[CALL TO ORDER]
[00:00:03]
CALLED TO ORDER. THE MEETING OF THE MCKINNEY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION THIS MONDAY, FEBRUARY 1ST 2021 AT 8 A.M. THIS IS A SPECIAL MEETING. LIKE TO START WITH AN INDICATION POLICE. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. LET'S PRAY. FATHER AND OUR GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO COME INTO YOUR PRESENCE. WE'RE THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASSEMBLE TOGETHER. TO CONDUCT BUSINESS. WE PRAY THAT IS YOUR WORD DECLARES AND BUSINESS. WE WILL BE MEN AND WOMEN. WE WILL BRING GLORY AND HONOR TO YOUR NAME.
UP OUR DECISION MAKING THANK YOU FOR, CREATIVITY FOR THE EXPANSION FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN THIS CITY. WE HONOR YOU AND GIVE YOU GLORY IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. PLEASE. THE FLAG. IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. REPUBLIC, WHICH IT STANDS. NATION UNDER GOD. INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND. HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS BEFORE WE GET STARTED. BEING ONTO THIS
[Consider/Discuss/Act on Updates to Project 20-09, Rehabilitation and Revitalization of the Property Located at the Southeast Corner of Greenville and Dungan Streets (402 E. Louisiana Street) to Create a World-Class Cultural and Entertainment Destination to Serve as a Catalyst for Economic Development East of Highway 5 in McKinney, Texas.]
SPECIAL AGENDA. ADAM 21-0 TO CONSIDER DISCUSS ACT ON UPDATES TO PROJECT 20-9 REHABILITATION AND REVITALIZATION OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. GREEN BOWL AND DUNCAN STREETS FOR OH TO EAST LOUISIANA STREET TO CREATE A WORLD CLASS CULTURAL AND ENTERTAINMENT DESTINATION TO SERVE AS A CATALYST FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EAST OF HIGHWAY FIVE IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS. YEAH. YEAH.[00:07:01]
MM.[00:11:12]
YEAH.[00:23:53]
PART OF THE BUILDING. AND THEN WE.[00:26:30]
YEAH.[00:30:21]
YEAH. RIGHT? HMM.[00:32:28]
FREE ANSWER. WOULD IT HELP IF YOU HAD LOOKED SAW WHAT WE WERE LOOKING? I SHARED IT WITH HIM, OKAY? YEAH. IF YOU WANT A COPY, OKAY? THOSE NUMBERS. THE CALCULATIONS WERE DONE FROM THE DOCUMENT THAT CONDUIT PUT TOGETHER. COMPARING THE TWO WANT MY COFFEE.CDC RETAINED OWNERSHIP IN THAT. YEAH.
[00:35:10]
IS IT A MATTER IS THAT A MATTER OF LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE BIGGEST CHUNK IS THIS ADULT PLAY ZONE. IS IT BECAUSE 11,000 SQUARE FEET OF ADULT PLAY ZONE WAS OVERKILL AND THE ONLY NEED 5000.IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE AS I WAS LOOKING, I WAS LOOKING AT THE SAME LIKE RED NUMBERS THAT DAVID'S TALKING ABOUT AND I'M LOOKING AT YOUR PICTURES, AND IT REALLY DOESN'T LOOK ANY DIFFERENT LIKE IS IT ALMOST THE WAY THEY'RE JUST SORT OF SOMEHOW ACCOUNTING FOR IT, AND.
[00:40:09]
GEORGE THE ONE EXCEPTION TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID WAS THE. BUT I LOOKED AT THAT WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PRIVATE SPACE. IT WAS LIKE THE WE TOOK. 3003 TO 4000 FT OF OUTDOOR BEER GARDEN AND REPLACED IT WITH A LOADING DOCK. BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT JUST THE PRIVATE THING AND. AND A NEW OUTDOOR BEER GARDEN, IN A WAY IS LIKE THE SECOND ADULT PLAY ZONE. IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. SO. UH, FROM PRIOR. WENT FROM FORT. IT WENT FROM 14 TO 11. OKAY? YEAH, IT'S TRUE.COMPTEL CONCEPTUALLY, IT'S THE SAME AMOUNT OF GREEN ON BOTH SIDES, SO IT'S LIKE, JUST GIVE HER TAKE 1000 FT LIKE IT. SCIENCE.
AND HE YOU JUST SEE THE DIRECTION? YEAH. HOW MUCH OF THEIR BUDGET IT'S A ROCK.
GOT ONE MORE CONCEPTUAL KIND OF QUESTION FOR WE DO GET BACK TO MATH. IT'S A FUNNY UM. STAGE THE CONCEPT OF THE TWO STAGES. I'VE GOT TWO QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. ONE IS. DID YOU SET IT UP THAT WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A STAGE THAT COULD BE VISIBLE BY THE BEER GARDEN? BECAUSE I NOTICED THE ONE IS SORT OF TILTED TOWARDS THE BEER GARDEN KIND OF JUST MISSES THE
[00:45:02]
CORNER OF THE BUILDING AND IS THAT WHY YOU DID THAT? AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IN THE SAME QUESTION IS THE TWO STAGES WORK. ARE YOU EVER GOING TO TWO ACTS THE SAME TIME AND THEY SEEM TO BE VERY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER. MM HMM.SO OBVIOUSLY, PUBLIC SPACE IS IMPORTANT TO US ON DEF WE'RE STILL UNSURE ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK OUT. CAN YOU GIVE ME A NUMBER OUT OF THE 11 3 THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR BUDGET FOR PUBLIC SPACE? AND I GUESS THEN THERE'S SOME ON MY PART.
THERE'S SOME CONCERNS ABOUT. RESTROOMS OR THEY'RE GOING TO BE AN ISSUE WITH PUBLIC USING THE RESTROOMS IF THEY DON'T BUY A SINGLE THING FROM YOU ALL MM.
THAT WOULD I THINK THAT WOULD BE. MY QUESTION IS JUST THE ANTICIPATED LOAD OF PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE, ESPECIALLY DURING SOME OF THE PUBLIC KINDS OF, YOU KNOW, FESTIVALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IS, IS THE COUNT OF RESTROOM SUITABLE. UM, TO HANDLE. PEAK OVERFLOW TIMES, I GUESS SO. AND THEN THEN ON AND SORT OF ON THE PUBLIC SPACE. ONE OF MY. QUESTIONS WAS WHAT KIND OF PROCESS HAVE YOU GUYS THOUGHT ABOUT YOU THINK ABOUT THEY SELECTION OF ART AND SOME OF THE SCULPTURE ELEMENTS. YOU'VE GOT JUST A REALLY GREAT COMPENDIUM OF PHOTOS THAT YOU'VE COLLECTED. BUT WHAT EXACT KIND OF PROCESS HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT FOR PULLING OUT AND GIVING SOME SORT OF PROCESS TO THE PUBLIC ART THAT YOU'RE PUTTING HIM. YEAH. HEY. YEAH.
REST I THINK IS THE KEY TO REST. OKAY? YEAH.
[00:51:13]
THAT'S RIGHT.WELL, YEAH, AND JUST I GUESS. IN ADDITION TO NOT ONLY THE BUDGET FOR SOME OF THOSE DESIGN ELEMENTS IS, UM. SUITABILITY AND I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE PARTICIPATION BY LOCAL ARTISTS AND PERHAPS FOR A SEGMENT OF THE BUDGET TO BE USED IN SORT OF A COMPETITIVE BID. DESIGN PROCESS WITH ACTUALLY A THEME OR SOME SORT OF OVERARCHING PLAN FOR THE QUALITY OF WHAT GOES IN AND. WE ARE BLESSED WITH WITH SOME TREMENDOUS THINGS. YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT EYE FOR THE. GUESS DESIGN FEEL OF WHAT YOU WANT AND FROM A BRANDING STANDPOINT, THE THINGS THAT HAVE BECOME ELEMENTS OF YOUR BRAND RECOGNITION, SO I'M GUESSING YOU'RE GONNA BE PRETTY CREATIVE IN THAT. BUT THERE ARE SOME GREAT. CROSS THE SEASON RAILS THAT CAN HELP YOU MAY BE IN YOUR RESEARCH FOR PUBLIC ARTS OR PUTTING TOGETHER SOMETHING THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER FOR YOU TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. YEAH. FAIR TO HAVE AN EXPECTATION. I'M THINKING OF ART WITH THIS WHOLE AREA IS GONNA LOOK LIKE I'M THINKING IT'S LIKE SOUTH CONGRESS STREET LOST AND THAT KIND OF A BULL. RIGHT BESIDE IT SEEMS TO BE WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT WITH EVERYTHING.
[00:57:05]
YOU'RE EXPECTING. MM. HOW ARE YOU? YEAH.YEAH. SO AREA 14 IS CONSIDERED PUBLIC AREA, THEN TO THE BEER GARDENS. ARE CONSIDERING THAT PUBLIC SPACE. OUTDOOR BEER GARDEN. FINDING WATER FEATURE. OKAY AND. ARE YOU FOR SEEING ANY ISSUES WITH SERVING LIQUOR. AS WELL AS BEER AND WINE. HAVING IT PUBLIC SPACES THAT GOING TO BE ANY ISSUES THAT YOU KNOW WHAT. AND IS THERE GONNA BE. ADVERTISING SLASH RICK'S FAVORITE WORD WAY FINDING TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT IT IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
AND GOING BACK TO THAT. 1.21 POINT THREE BUDGET ITEM FOR OPEN SPACES. HOW MUCH OF THAT A SITE WORK. NO.
YES. I APPRECIATE IT ALL THE. THE PRINT THE SLIDE YOU DID ON THE OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY. AND SO THOSE I'LL LOOK LIKE TERRIFIC INITIATIVES. SO A QUESTION TO YOU AND ALSO PAUL AND GEORGE, WHAT ITS CONCERNS HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED. SO FAR BY THE COMMUNITY. ROLLS.
[01:00:39]
HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING OF GEORGE? MM.SEE THEM MOVE THEY WERE CONSIDERING MOVING OUT OF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. JUMP. STILL A LITTLE SORE ABOUT THAT, BUT WE WANT TO SEE THEM STAY IN THE KITCHEN. WE HAVE WE HAVE GREAT BELIEF IN THIS HOMEGROWN BUSINESS AS WE DID ON CORE DECADES AGO. BUT. TO HAVE THEM STATE AND GO TO THIS AREA SPECIFICALLY. THAT HELPS ADVANCE. I THINK SIGNIFICANTLY WHAT WE WANT TO SEE HAPPEN IN DEVELOPMENT AND ENHANCEMENT OF AMENITIES AND DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT SIDE, NOT JUST FOR THE WHOLE CITY OF MCKINNEY, BUT PEOPLE THAT CURRENTLY LIVED THERE. THAT'S WHY WE DID THIS DEAL BUT AGAIN AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE NOT GIVING
[01:05:03]
ANYTHING TO TOPS. OTHER THAN HOPE ON THE FRONT SIDE OF WHICH THEY WILL PAY BACK. GOOD. SO ANSWER RIGHT NOW IS THE INTERIM DISTRICT ONE WRAPPED AND SO SOME OF THE CONCERNS I KNOW AH, QUESTIONS IS TO ENSURE THAT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE THERE THAT THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE AT SOME POINT THEY'RE GONNA BE PRICED OUT. THEIR HOMES. MARKET VALUES COULD POTENTIALLY INCREASE BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT NOT JUST WITH. THERE'S ALSO WITH CITY HALL DEVELOPMENT, SO AND ALSO I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING WITH BETH LATELY WITH THE LEGACY KEEPERS INTERN. SURE THAT SOME PART OF YOUR DESIGN IS INCORPORATION OF THE HISTORY IN THE RICH HISTORY OF THE COMMUNITY. I KNOW YOU HAD THE ONE SIGN THEY HAD THE DIFFERENT LIKE ARROWS TWO DIFFERENT SO THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY. THERE ARE THE LOMA AREA ROCK WALL, YOU KNOW LIVELY HELL, SO THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THAT SO THAT THOSE COMMUNITIES FEEL LIKE THIS IS PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND NOT A SEPARATE COMMUNITY. SO I THINK THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT CAN BE FIXED AND BE INCLUSIVE TO MAKE THOSE COMMUNITIES FEEL. PART OF AND NO, THIS IS OURS. THIS IS THAT'S NOT THE CITIES OF A, YOU KNOW, CULTURAL DISTRICT. THIS IS PART OF US, AND WE'RE WELCOME HERE. THEY WANT TO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE WELCOME IN THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE COMMENTS I'VE HAD. THANK YOU. SECURE AND SHE THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT I WAS REALLY TRYING TO GET TO MM.RIGHT? HI. I'M BRENDA SPINELLI. I AM YOUR OWNER'S REP FOR THE PROJECT. IT IS A VERY EXCITING PROJECT FOR THE CITY. I LIVE HERE AND REALLY THRILLED ABOUT IT. BUT I DO HAVE FOR MYSELF A FEW THINGS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. TONTO SURE THAT I AM LOOKING OUT FOR YOUR BEST INTEREST IN THE PROJECT. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS AND. ONE IS THAT YOU KEEP SAYING 4.3 ACRES.
IT'S FOUR. HERE'S THE 0.3 IS THE PART THAT Y'ALL KEPT. YES. YES, SIR. BUT I THINK FOR MOVING FORWARD IT WOULD BE GREAT IF AS YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT THIS TO CONSIDER AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE DIRECTION OR EXPECTATION ON THE PERCENTAGE OF THAT PUBLIC SPACE THAT YOU WANT TO SEE, JUST SO THAT IS CONDUIT IS GOING THROUGH. I'M DOING THEIR DESIGN. THERE'S A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU EXPECT FOR THEM FOR THIS GRANT MONEY THAT YOU PROVIDED ALSO THE AMENITIES THAT YOU WANT OR EXPECT TO SEE. TO BE INCLUDED IN THOSE PUBLIC SPACES. FOR THE PUBLIC USE, UM. I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SAYING 1.3 MILLION FOR THE SITE. THAT PROBABLY INCLUDES A LOT OF SIGHT WORK THAT YOU WOULD BE DOING REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THIS WAS PUBLIC OR NOT, SO THERE'S JUST A SOME CLARITY FOR ME. I THINK THE RESTROOMS THAT'S A GREAT SITUATION THAT YOU'VE COME UP WITH FOR PUTTING THEM IN AN AREA WHERE THERE'S ACCESS FROM THE OUTSIDE. PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE TO GO IN. AND THEY KIND OF FEEL LIKE MAYBE THEY SHOULD BUY SOMETHING. SO THAT WAS A GOOD OPTION. UM BUT I ALSO THINK THE UNDERSTANDING ON THE FENCING AND HOW THE SITE IS GOING TO BE OPEN AND CLOSED. UNDERSTAND YOU SAY YOU GUYS WERE THERE ABOUT EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING TILL 10 BUT AGAIN SOME CLARITY THERE, I THINK WOULD BE REALLY GREAT AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. IN THE PROJECT JUST SAID THAT THERE'S A GOOD UNDERSTANDING AND WE COULD BE WORKING TOGETHER AND I THINK WE ALL HAVE BEEN REALLY GREAT. IT YOU KNOW, TRYING TO ANSWER ALL THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT SOME REAL DIRECTION FROM YOU WOULD BE TERRIFIC FOR ME. HAVE A QUESTION CONCERNING TOURISM AND BEAR WITH ME BECAUSE I'M NEW TO HEARING ABOUT TIPS. AND WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING SO CURRENTLY WHAT TYPE OF TOURISM ARE YOU EXPERIENCING IN TERMS OF BECAUSE I SAW WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO? TRY TO BRING IN OKLAHOMA. SO WHAT DO YOU CURRENTLY RECEIVING IN TERMS OF VISITS FROM OUTSIDE OF THIS AREA? YEAH, THAT'S A THAT'S A GREAT POINT. BECAUSE TODAY IN OUR CURRENT LOCATION. I THINK ACTUALLY, THE CITY OF FRISCO DID A ANALYSIS THAT SAID, WHEN
[01:10:05]
THE FIRST GO RESIDENTS LEAVE FRISCO TO DO SOMETHING. WHERE DID THEY GO? AND THE ANSWER WAS LAVA CANTINA AND TOPS. SO THINK IN COLLIN COUNTY. UM. WE ALREADY HAVE KIND OF A MAGNET TO THAT. UM. THERE'S CONCERTS, THINGS LIKE THAT WILL GET THE DALLAS CREW UP. BUT WHEN I'VE REVIEWED WHAT OUR PLANS ARE FOR THIS PROPERTY WITH, LIKE THE BREWERY COMMUNITY NATIONWIDE THEY'RE LIKE THERE'S NO ONE HAS THIS. THIS WILL BE A DESTINATION SPOT IN A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO COME TO SEE WHAT THE HECK WE'VE ALL DONE HERE. SO MY ANTICIPATION IS THAT THERE'LL BE A MUCH BIGGER OUTREACH EVEN ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS TO COME IN AND CHECK THIS PLACE OUT. UM AND WE WILL HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THE ONE THING WE'RE PLANNING. IS THAT THE CRAFT BREWERS ASSOCIATION, UM TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO HIRED REALLY COOL LADY. HER NAME IS DR J. AND SHE IS THE DIVERSITY. SHE RUNS THE DIVERSITY IN ISSUES AND THE CRAFT BREWERS ASSOCIATION BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, ALL CRAPPER CZAR BEARDED PEOPLE WITH TATTOOS AND, YOU KNOW, YOUNG GUYS, RIGHT? SO THEY'RE TRYING TO BRING IN A MORE DIVERSE CREW. SO WE'RE HAVING HER GONNA FLY HER IN TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE GONNA BE TEEMING WITH PETA COLA'S ANOTHER BREWERY AND DALLAS SO THERE IS A BIGGER PLAY HERE AND A BIGGER OUTREACH TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT THIS IS DIFFERENT. IT'S SPECIAL. IT'S UNIQUE. UM. I WANT TO GET EVERYBODY AROUND TALKING ABOUT ANDRE WHAT WE'RE DOING. AS A THE MOST UNIQUE NOT GONNA BE THE BIGGEST WE WILL BE THE MOST UNIQUE BREWERY. AND ENTERTAINMENT CRAFT ZONE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, MAYBE IN THE SOUTHWEST. AND GET TOURISM IN TO DO THAT. THINK IT'S AN AMAZING CONCEPT. WHAT THOUGHTS DID YOU GUYS HAVE CONCERNING ADVERTISEMENT? IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRACK OKLAHOMANS AND OTHER. INDIVIDUALS FROM DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. WHAT KIND OF ADVERTISING ARE YOU THINK? YEAH, TODAY ALL WE REALLY EVER DONE IS JUST DOUBLED DOWN ON SOCIAL MEDIA. AND WE HAVE GONE CRAZY ON THAT AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT, I THINK IS WHERE WE FEEL MOST COMFORTABLE. EVERYTHING ELSE YOU DO SEEMS TO HAVE SUCH A NARROW REACH, AND IT SEEMS TO BE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. SO THAT'S WHERE OUR FOCUS IS RIGHT NOW, BUT OBVIOUSLY. YOU KNOW, OPEN TO ANY KIND OF COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT WE SHOULD DO. UM AND MAYBE EVEN AS IMPORTANTLY, IS LIKE, WHO SHOULD WE PARTNER WITH WHO ALSO HAS THE REACH? WE CAN. WE CAN. DRAFT YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S WHY THE CRAFT BREWERS ASSOCIATION IS SO VIBRANT THAT GETTING IN TOUCH WITH THEM IS REALLY, REALLY GOOD. BUT THERE MAY BE LIKE THE MUSIC THING MAY BE A BIG THING TO GET PEOPLE TO COME IN HERE. WHY DOES EVERYBODY GO TO AUSTIN FOR MUSIC? THEY SHOULD COME HERE I COME. MM. YES, YES, SURE. WE'VE WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM FOR A LONG TIME, AND WE HAVE ALL SORTS OF EVENTS AT THE BREWERY. SO YEAH, DOING THAT IS KEY. MAY BE REACHING OUT TO THE LOCAL SURROUNDING CITIES WITH THEIR SAME ORGANIZATIONS. ALSO LOVE I'M YOUR CONCEPT ON BUILD YOUR OWN BUSINESS, RIGHT, SO LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING MORE AND HEARING MORE ABOUT THAT, AND I WOULD LOVE ALL OF YOU TO PLAY A ROLE IN THAT BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE THAT PEOPLE COME IN HERE AND I WANT TO START A BUSINESS AND FOR YOU GUYS TOO. YOU KNOW, BE A SOUNDING BOARD. AND YOU KNOW, SAY WHO WE SHOULD HAVE WHAT? WE SHOULDN'T HAVE. WHAT KIND OF SUPPORT THAT THEY MIGHT NEED. WHETHER IT'S FINANCIAL, WHETHER IT'S MARKETING WHATEVER IT IS, AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO CONNECT TO THE EAST SIDE IS THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE EAST SIDE MAY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A HARD TIME GETTING STARTED ON SOMETHING, BUT. THIS IS THE SHOT AND MAYBE THERE'S A SPECIAL NOD TO THAT SO THANK YOU. QUESTION RELATED TO THE BUILDER OF BUSINESS BECAUSE I LIKED THAT CONCEPT, TOO. HOW MANY OF THOSE SILOS WILL BE THERE? AND WHAT IS HOW WHAT'S THE SIZE OF A SILO? THAT YOU'RE RIGHT NOW? WE HAVE WE HAVE SIX. THERE ARE FIVE ON THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY. AND THEN THERE'S ONE OUT FRONT NEXT TO THE LITTLE STORE. UM ONE AFTER THE STORE WILL BE OPEN ALL THE TIME. SO IF IT'S SOMEBODY WHO HAS TO HAVE ACCESS TO IT ALL THE TIME. THE ONES ON THE INSIDE WILL PROBABLY BE MAINLY OPEN FOR ON THE WEEKENDS. UM. AND UH AND THERE THERE NOT GONNA GO ANYWHERE FROM 18 TO 21. FT IS KIND OF THE MOST PRACTICAL SIZE. RIGHT NOW, THE[01:15:03]
PLAN IS TO CONNECT WITH SOMEBODY AND SAY WE'LL POUR. THIS LAB WILL PUT THE STRUCTURE ON TOP OF IT. AND WE'LL GIVE YOU ELECTRICITY. SO FOR SOME PEOPLE WELL, NOW WHAT DO I DO? YOU KNOW, I NEED MAURITZ LIKE, WELL, THAT'S WHEN. WELL WHAT DO YOU NEED? WHERE CAN WE GO GET THE FUNDS YOU KNOW FOR YOU DOES DOES TOPS PARTICIPATE IN IT THAT STOPS GIVE YOU THE MONEY.DOES INDEPENDENT FINANCIAL DESIGN CORPS WIRE TO SOME OF THOSE GUYS COME IN A GUY LIKE THAT PROGRAM AND WE'RE GOING TO INVEST IN THIS PERSON. WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU $5000 OR WHATEVER TO BUILD OUT YOUR STRUCTURE. AND THEN AS YOU'RE RUNNING A BUSINESS, YOU HAVE TO PAY THAT BACK. YOU PAY IT BACK OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME AND A CERTAIN INTEREST RATE AND THAT'S. WE'VE GONE THROUGH THAT IS A BREWERY. AND. HAVING A LITTLE DEATH. NOT BAD, A LITTLE BIT OF ACCOUNTABILITY THERE. THAT KIND OF THING. SOME OF MAY NOT BE THAT WAY. SOMEONE MAY JUST BE. HERE'S SOME MONEY TO COME IN AND START YOUR BUSINESS. SO. YEP, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THEM SIGN A LEASE AND TO PAY A SMALL FEE AND THAT AND COVER THEIR EXPENSES, GROW THEIR BUSINESS AND THEN THE GOALS FOR THEM TO LEAVE. OR STAY, AND THEN YOU KNOW, WE BACKFILL WITH SOMEBODY. THE NEW BUSINESS, POSSIBLY. YES. SO I LIKE. THAT YOU WERE EVOLVING LOAN PROGRAM. SO IF YOU HAVE A PARTNER THERE INVESTORS THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO DO AND THEN LIKE YOU SAY, YOU PAYING THEIR PANIC THEM BACK SO THAT THE NEXT YOU KNOW, INTO TEACHING COMMENTS IS JUST A REVOLVING LOAN FROM WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE YOU ARE ABLE TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CREATIVE WITH YOUR APPLICATION. PROCESS YOUR CRITERIA. DID YOU KNOW THIS IS A SMALL BUSINESS THAT THEY CAN'T GO? YOU KNOW, THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OR TO A BANK TO GET A SMALL 10,000 OR 5000 TYPE, YOU KNOW, CAPITAL FOR CAPITAL OR THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I LIKE THAT IDEA. THANKS. WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO KNOW THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THIS BECAUSE WHEN I WERE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SPACE AND THIS IDEA OF BUILDING YOUR OWN BUSINESS. I KIND OF THINK ABOUT THAT. IN TERMS OF THIS IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR BUSINESSES AND PUBLIC TO COME TO ANOTHER SPACE ON THE ON THE PROPERTY. BUT IN TERMS OF AND THIS ISN'T REALLY A QUESTION, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU YOU MAY HAVE AN ANSWER FOR IT NOW. BUT AS WE TALK ABOUT ANGIE AND YOU, YOU TALKED ABOUT IT SO WELL, MAKING SURE THE COMMUNITY KNOWS THAT THIS IS PART OF THEIR COMMUNITY AND THEY CAN COME HERE. IN TERMS OF THE BUSINESSES I'M INTERESTED TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE. LET'S SAY YOU HAVE 50 BUSINESSES THAT SAY, I WANT TO COME THERE AND YOU HAVE SIX SPOTS. WHAT ARE THOSE CRITERIA S O THAT IT IS. WE ARE SELECTING BUSINESSES. WHATEVER THAT CRITERIA LOOKS LIKE SO IT DOES GIVE THEM LIKE YOU SAID, AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET STARTED. NOT JUST SOMEBODY WHO THINKS I WANT TO LEASE A SPACE. I HAVE THIS BIG WAREHOUSE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN. BUT I CAN SELL MY STUFF HERE AND THIS WILL BE GREAT VERSUS SOMEBODY WHO'S TRYING TO GET STARTED. AND SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF AN INTERESTING CONCEPT. AND I'M THINKING BE GREAT IF YOU HAD 50 PEOPLE LINED UP WANTING TO START, BUT HOW DO YOU THEN SELECT THOSE SIX? HOW DOES THAT LOOK SO KIND OF MORE? JUST THINKING IT? YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU'RE RIGHT. I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, E THINK. I THINK IT'S A COOL PROGRAM. I MEAN, DON'T KNOW WHO'S DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS. YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, WHAT IS IT LIKE? IS IT LIKE YOUR OWN LITTLE SHARK TANK AND MCKINNEY WHERE PEOPLE COME IN? MAYBE IS IT IS AN INCUBATOR FOR SMALL BUSINESS. MAYBE IT'S ALL OF THE ABOVE, BUT WE'VE GOT TO PUT THE DETAILS AROUND IT, AND IT WOULD JUST BE REALLY FUN AND REALLY GRATIFYING TO HAVE PEOPLE COME IN, AND THEY'RE MOTIVATED. THEY HAVE A FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY, AND THEY HAVE A LIFELINE TO A COMMUNITY THAT COULD HELP HIM GROW SO I THINK IT'S REALLY NEAT. WE GOTTA PUT THE DETAILS AROUND. THERE'S I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF SPACE ON THIS SITE.
THERE'S WAY DON'T HAVE TO STICK WITH JUST, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR SIX. IT COULD BE MORE UM AND, UH, YOU COULD REALLY ADD A TREMENDOUS VALUE TO THE LOCAL BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT SHOP OUT HERE. WALKING AROUND SEEING ALL THE COOL STUFF, SO YOU MIGHT WANNA ENGAGE WITH SOME OF THE GUYS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THE MCKINNEY WORKS, HUH? AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY HAD ON THE RETAIL FOR THE RETAIL BUSINESSES MORE. OBVIOUSLY, THAT ATTACK. BUT THAT THERE'S SOME GOOD GUYS THERE LIKE MARC CAUGHT HIM. DO YOU KNOW HIM? NO. BE VERY YESTERDAY HELPING DEVELOP THIS. MARK CHURCH. UM. HAVE JUST ONE THING THAT SORT OF WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT. IT KIND OF GOT LEFT OFF IN THE NEW ONE GETS USED TO HAVE SOMETHING
[01:20:03]
CALLED A GARDEN FOR BEER MAKING. AND NOW YOU DON'T IS THAT JUST NEED SOMETHING ELSE NOW? GARDEN FOR BEER MAKING, ACCORDING TO THE YOU KNOW THIS FAMOUS RED BLACK DOCTOR. YOU KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER ANYTHING ON THE ADDITIONAL SITE, I'M SORRY IN THE ORIGINAL SITE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING SOME SORT OF LIKE GARDEN, POSSIBLY GREENHOUSE THAT WOULD TIE INTO THE CULINARY SCHOOL. YEAH. SO WHEN THE CULINARY SCHOOL PIECE WAS ENTERTAINED BY CDC YOU JUST DIDN'T MAKE MUCH SENSE TO DO THAT. WE CAN'T REALLY GROW THINGS THAT WE NEED FOR BEER, AND I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND AND THEN. IN YOUR PUBLIC SPACE AREA. I'M SURE YOU'RE GONNA DO THIS. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE GONNA KEEP SOME MONEY ASIDE A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY ASIDE FOR ACTUAL TREES AND NATURAL NATURAL SHADE, AS WELL AS THE ARTIFICIAL SHADE.IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, THEY'LL BE SOME. I MEAN, ONE OF THE ONE OF THE TOUGH THINGS WITH ALL THE THINGS YOU NEED TO LOOK AT, AND WITH MUSIC AND STAGE. WE'RE SENSE OF THE FACT YOU DON'T WANT TO BLOCK THE AREA, BUT THERE'S SOME SOME SOME TREES INSIDE, BUT, YEAH, I MEAN, ALL THOSE DETAILS WILL BE YOU KNOW, UM LEFT OUT ONCE WE REALLY SIT DOWN WITH KIMBERLY HORN AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO SO. IT'S AN IMPORTANT DETAIL TO KEEP THAT VIBE OF THOSE PICTURES THAT YOU WERE SHOWING. THEY'RE ALL IN NATURAL AREAS, AND THERE WAS ALWAYS SOME GREEN BEHIND THINGS. IT WASN'T SORT OF ON A DUSTY FIELD, RIGHT, RIGHT, EXACTLY OF OKAY. AND I THINK I THINK THAT THE POINT ABOUT THE OPEN SPACES THAT MAYBE THERE IS KIND OF MAYBE A WORKING SESSION THAT WE CONFORM WITH YOU KNOW, CERTAIN GROUP OF YOU LIKE TO COME IN AND LOOK AT IT, SO IT'S MORE REAL TIME BECAUSE I'D HATE TO HAVE. I DON'T KNOW. 23 MONTHS GO BY AND GET FAR ANOTHER DOWN THE ROAD, THEN YOU HAVE TO COME BACK. SO THIS THIS OUTDOOR SPACE IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW AN ICONIC ELEMENT OF THE WHOLE SITE AND I'LL MAKE SURE IT CHECKS EVERYBODY'S BOX. WORK.
COULD DO THAT, OR I WAS GONNA JUST PUT IT OUT THERE. YOU KNOW, ONCE WE'VE TALKED AMONGST OURSELVES TO BE AWARE THAT WE MAY BE ASKING YOU TO NOT PRESENT FORMALLY PRESENT. WITH A PACKET MONTHLY WHEN WE MEET, SO WE HAVE SOMETHING TO GO OVER. AND SO THAT IF SOMETHING IS CHANGING THAT WE'RE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WE CAN ADDRESS THEM TIMELY BUT A SUBCOMMITTEE TO WOODWORK. EVER. WE DECIDE TO DO THAT, BUT JUST JUST BE AWARE THAT WE ARE PROBABLY GONNA WANT TO BE UPDATED ON SOME SORT OF REGULAR BASIS. YEAH GROUPTHINK IS ALWAYS GOOD. AND THESE THINGS TOO.
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
[EXECUTIVE SESSION]
[01:25:01]
EXECUTIVE SESSION AND QUARTZ WITH TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE E SECTION 551.8 LIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MATTERS FOR B 20-9 STEPS. WILL RETURN. OKAY. WE HAVE RETURNED FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 10:17 A.M. I NEED EMOTION TO OR HOW ABOUT IF I JUST MOVED.IT INDICATES SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT AS PRESENTED INTO APPOINTED SUBCOMMITTEE, INCLUDING ANGELA RICHARDSON, WOODS, BRICK GLUE, DAVID KELLY AND DEBORAH BRADFORD. TO INTERACT WITH THE WITH M C. D. C TIPS IN THE CITY TEAM, SO I NEED A SECOND, PLEASE. SECOND TAKEN BY DAVID.
MENTIONED PASSES. THEN IF THERE'S NOT ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS OR BORED COMMENTS. I JUST NEED EMOTION. TIOGA DURING THE MEETING. MM. MM. SECOND YEAH. I'M MARRIED.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 10:18 A.M. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON MUSTARD SEED DO YOU'LL HAVE A TIME OF DAY PREFERENCE? FIVE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.