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MEETING TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 2ND THE YEAR 2021 WERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 2 22, NORTH TENNESSEE STREET IN THE GREAT CITY OF MCKINNEY, AND IT IS 602 IN THE EVENING. FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS WILL BE AN INDICATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE INDICATION WILL BE LED BY COUNCILMAN PHILLIPS. WOULD PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS AND PRAY WITH ME. FATHER WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN THIS WONDERFUL CITY THAT YOU HAVE BLESSED SO RICHLY. WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU WOULD BLESS EACH OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL WITH WISDOM AND DISCERNMENT. IN ORDER TO MAKE THE DECISIONS TO MOVE THIS CITY FORWARD FOR THE GOOD OF ALL INVOLVED. WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD CONTINUE TO HOLD OUR CITIZENS IN THE PALM OF YOUR HAND AND CONTINUED. BLESS THIS CITY THAT YOU HAVE IN THE YEARS PAST. YES, THAT YOU HAVE A HAND WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS DURING THE PANDEMIC, BOTH THOSE IN THE MEDICAL FIELD THE FIRE AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS WHO SO ADEQUATELY PROTECT OUR CITY, AND WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THOSE WHO ARE SERVING IN OUR ARMED FORCES THROUGHOUT THE WORLD TO KEEP THIS COUNTRY FREE IN THE GREATEST COUNTRY ON THE PLANET. THANK YOU FOR BLESSING US SO WELL, FELI AND WE ASK THESE THINGS IN YOUR SON JESUS CHRIST, OUR LORD AND SAVIOR. HEY, MAN. THE LATEST TO PROVIDE ME.

REPUBLIC WHAT STANDS. OKAY? INDIVIDUAL LEVEL. EVERYTHING FROM. NOW MOVED FURTHER

[PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS (For Non-Public Hearing Agenda Items)]

COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS FOR NON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. I HAVE THREE LISTED CHRIS THORNTON. COME UP. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS IF YOU WOULD FOR THE RECORD. DISTORTING FABULOUS HOUSE STREET. MCKAY TEXAS 75169. FIRST HEY DOING PAST I'M GONNA MAYOR MAYOR PRO TEM ALL YOU GUYS ON THE COUNCIL? YES I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK ON THE STATUE. AND I JUST FEEL LIKE WHEN I ACTUALLY WHEN I RODE BY IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A STARK REMINDER. YOU KNOW, WE LOOK OUT OVER THE WORLD TODAY AND ALL IN AMERICA AND EVERYBODY IS. IS REALLY AT A POINT WHERE IT'S TIME OUT. YOU KNOW, IT'S IT STANDS AS A STARK REMINDER TO ME AND TO MANY OF US OF COLOR OF WHAT. IT USED TO BE AND WHAT AMERICA USED TO THINK OF US AND IT ACTUALLY POINTS TO THE EAST SIDE OVER THERE, AND THAT'S WHERE WE WERE REMINDED HIS KIDS THAT WE NEED TO RETURN TO. WHEN ARE WE WANTED TO DO WAS COME UPTOWN AND GO TO THE MOVIES.

THEN I'M REMINDED OF ALL THE YOU KNOW THE RACIAL INDIGNATION THE RACIAL EPITAPHS THAT WAS HURLED IS US IS CHILDREN JUST COME INTO THE MOVIE THEATER, REMINDING US THAT ONCE IT WAS OVER, WE NEED TO RETURN BACK TO WHERE WE BELONG. AND SO I THINK IT'S JUST IT'S JUST TIME OUT.

IT'S TIME FOR IT TO GO, I SAID HERE ON THE LAST MEETING AND LOOKED AT HOW. SOMEONE COULD COME UP AND MAKE COMPLAINTS ABOUT SOMEBODY RIDING BY WITH LOUD MUSIC, AND I LOOKED AT THE CONCERN THAT Y'ALL SHOWED FOR HER FOR YOU KNOW HOW SHE FELT ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. BUT THEN I WANT TO SEE THE CONCERN ABOUT HOW WE FEEL. ABOUT WHAT THIS STATUE MEANS AND WHAT? YOU KNOW WHAT IT REPRESENTS TO US. AND SO WE JUST WANT THAT SAME YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW ATTITUDE THAT YOU HAD TOWARDS THIS PERSON WITH HER CONCERNS. WITH OUR CONCERNS. AND SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SPOKE OUT ON IT, YOU KNOW, AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S TIME AND YOU KNOW IT'S TIME OUT. YOU KNOW, AMERICA IS HEADED IN ANOTHER DIRECTION RIGHT NOW AND IT'S JUST TIME OUT. YOU LOOK EVERYWHERE YOU GO. THESE THESE STATUES, THESE THINGS OF THIS NATURE OF BEING REMOVED, THEY'RE PUT IN MUSEUMS OR WHEREVER THEY'RE BEING PUT IT, BUT THEY'RE BEING REMOVED BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED, YOU KNOW, REMINDER OF PHYSICAL REMINDER EVERY DAY. WHAT IT USED TO BE LIKE, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT STATUE REPRESENTS TO ME. SURE I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, CHRIS. CAMERA. JOHNSON. YES. OKAY, THIS IS THAT I'M GONNA REVISIT SOME PREVIOUS STATEMENTS LOOKING AT THE SENTIMENT OF ALL THIS. WHAT IS THE HEART OF JUST ALLOWING THE STATUTE TO REMAIN WHERE IT IS? CAN WE AT LEAST TRY TO GET TO THE HUMANITY OF IT? EMPATHY IS THE ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND AND SHARE THE FEELINGS OF ANOTHER. IN OTHER WORDS,

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CONNECTING WITH THE FEELING OF ANOTHER AND WALKING IN THEIR SHOES, UNDERSTANDING THEIR POINT OF VIEW. DOES IT MATTER AT ALL TO ANY OF YOU THAT SOMEONE IS HURT BY THE STATUTE? IN THEIR VIEW, THERE ARE DEEP SEATED FEELINGS ON BOTH SIDES ATTACHED TO THAT STATUE.

SOMEONE ON THE AD HOC BOARD EVEN EXPRESSED THAT IN HIS LIFETIME, HE WAS TOLD IN HIS FACE BY WAITRESS ON THAT VERY SQUARE. WE DON'T SERVE HERE. AND THE SIMPLEST OF TERMS. JAMES THROCKMORTON WAS AN OPPONENT OF THE 13TH AND 14TH AMENDMENTS TO THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, A RACIST WHO FAVORITE HUMAN TRAFFICKING SLAVERY. AND TREASONOUS WHO FAVORITE CONFEDERACY. RECENT EVENTS IN OUR U. S CAPITOL GAVE YOU FULL VIEW TO THE DISRUPTION CAUSED BY WHITE SUPREMACY. HAVE TO WONDER HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE OKAY WITH THOSE GOINGS ON. HOW COULD ANYONE BE OK WITH THE DISRUPTING OF OUR DEMOCRACY? THOSE ARE MEMBERS HERE POSED.

HELPED OUR DEMOCRACY TO BE A LITTLE MORE INCLUSIVE. AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN. I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYONE SAY TO KILL THE STATUTE. WE WOULD JUST LIKE FOR IT TO BE MOVED FROM OUR VIEW.

MORE APPROPRIATE PLACE. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT. LOCAL LEADERSHIP IS SO OFTEN EX HAS IT SO OFTEN EXPECTED AS TO JUST GO ALONG WITH WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU BELIEVE IS BEST IN ORDER TO GET ALONG. WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT SOMETHING MEANS TO YOU, BUT YOU OFTEN DON'T WANT TO CONSIDER HOW WE AS HUMAN BEINGS FEEL ABOUT THINGS. WE KNOW YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR STATUE IN PLACE. NO IT'S VERY HARD TO EVEN OFFENSIVE FOR SOME OF YOU TO PUT YOURSELVES IN THE SHOES OF AN AFRICAN AMERICAN OR LATINA. EVERY NOW AND AGAIN CLOSE YOUR EYES AND THINK. WHAT IF I HAD BEEN BORN AFRICAN AMERICAN OR LATINA? WHAT IF PEOPLE HAD A DEEP HATRED FOR ME? JUST BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF MY SKIN? WHAT IF I HAD EVER BEEN EXCLUDED FROM EVERY DAY LIFE EVENTS BECAUSE OF BEING WHITE? THEN CONSIDER HAVING TO COME UP HERE AND BEG YOU GUYS TO REMOVE SOMETHING FROM THE TOWN SQUARE THAT IS A SYMBOL OF HATRED WHEN YOU WANT TO KEEP IT FOR THE SAKE OF HISTORY. IMAGINE THE DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY SQUARE AS AN ALI CLOSE IT PREMIER LOCATION TO BRING TOGETHER FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO CELEBRATE VARIOUS OCCASIONS AND LIFE OF ITS. GET WE DO NOT WANT TO KILL THE STATUE. WE JUST WANT TO MOVE IT OUT OF YOU SO NOT TO HAVE TO VISUALIZE OR BE REMINDED OF THE HORRORS OF HISTORY. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO AND NOR CAN WE CHANGE HISTORY. WE JUST WANT HISTORY TO BE HOUSED IN A MORE APPROPRIATE PLACE. REMEMBER THIS? JUST BECAUSE OF SOLDIER IS NOT IN UNIFORM, DOES NOT MEAN HE'S NOT. THANK YOU. I'M DAN CHANDLER.

I WAS DOWN AT THE CAMPAIGNING. FOR THE NEW MAYOR. UH, IT WAS A SATURDAY THERE WAS SOME KIDS THEY'RE GAY ACT AND TRUTH. 13 14 15 YEARS OLD. THEY ALL SAID THEY WERE GAY MEN AND GAY WOMEN. THEY CAME TO ME AND EVERY COP, I GUESS IN TOWN SHOWED UP. WAS THAT THERE BEHIND THE PICKUP? NOBODY COULD SEE ME ACROSS THE STREET AND I SAW HIM ALL COME OUT THERE.

THAT ALL STARTED YELLING AND CARRYING ON ONE ON WOULD TRIGGERED I'M A PROTEAN ABORTION SIGN. IT AIN'T LIKE MY CAP AND THEY WOULD MATTER AND HAVE A MASK ON. AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS INTERFERING WITH THEIR RIGHT TO SPEAK BY HAVING MY SIGN. THAT GUY. THEY BECAME VIOLENT. I DIDN'T EXPECT HIM TO HIT ME OR ANYTHING, BUT THEY WERE ACTING LIKE THAT. WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE THE POLICE CAME. SEE LIKE YOU. YOU YOUR TRIGGER IS MY CONFEDERATE FLAG. THEIR TRIGGER WAS PRIDE IN ABORTIONS. FOUND A MATTER OF FACT YOU GOT RID OF YOU SAID I CAN'T HAVE MY PRIDE AND ABORTION SIGN IN HERE ANY TIME OR MY CONFEDERATE FLAG. DEVIL KNOWS THAT THE DEVILS COMES AND I'M MY DEAL. I'M GONNA VANGELIS. THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING DOWN THERE IS TRYING TO EVANGELIZE LEAVE PEOPLE ACROSS. THAT'S MY BOTTOM LINE. I HAVE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH.

GOD'S WORD, DESTROY THE DEVILS LIVES AND IT IS THIS DON'T WORSHIP THE DEVIL LET OUT BEFORE THE WATER GOD BEFORE ALMIGHTY GOD HIMSELF. I COULD BE TELLING THE SUPREME DEVILS COURT ABOUT THIS. THAT MADAM, A REAL, HERR. I DON'T NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT HERE. I NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT HIM. I DON'T NEED PEOPLE COMING AND SAYING YOU GOT WORSHIP ME AND I'M GONNA TURN ON THE STATUE. GOES NEXT. WE'RE GOING TO TURN OUT MY AMERICAN FLAG THAT YOU

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DIDN'T WANT. THEY'RE GONNA TURN THEY WOULD TEAR DOWN AMERICA AND KILL EVERYONE HERE. THOSE WHO SACRIFICE THEIR CHILDREN FIRES MALEK, SO IT'S ALL ABOUT THAT'S WHAT GOD DID IN THE BIBLE TO THE CANDIDATES. OKAY? DON'T NEED TO RETURN THE STATUE DOWN BECAUSE IT DOESN'T STOP THERE. THEY GOT THESE PEOPLE DON'T WANT YOU TO TURN THE STATUE DOWN. THEY WANT TO TEAR YOU DOWN. WOULD KILL EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US DESTROY AMERICA. THAT'S WHAT THE DEVIL'S NOT HE WANTS A NEW WORLD ORDER. AND WHY DID I SAY ALL THAT FOR? THIS HAS COME FROM THE BIBLE. REACH SECOND THESSALONIANS TO REDO DEUTERONOMY. VERY THINGS THAT HAPPENED FOR WHICH SHOULDN'T THEY'RE HAPPENING NOW. YOU KNOW WHAT? THOSE KIDS DOWN THERE THAT WERE TRIGGERED. WERE CUSTOM ME OUT. JUMPING ALL OVER ME WHILE ANY OF YOU ANY DIFFERENT THAN THEM. YOU'RE EXACTLY LIKE THEM. YOU HAVE YOUR TRIGGERS YOUR THINGS THAT YOU'LL PLEAD FOR THE DEVIL. THAT'S WHY I'LL CAMPAIGN AGAINST EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU, AND ESPECIALLY AGAINST YOU. YOU COME AGAINST MAY I DIDN'T I DIDN'T CALL YOU DRUNK. I'M TELLING YOU THAT AND YOU MIGHT NOT BE EVEN LAUGH ALL YOU WANT AND MAYBE I MAYBE I DON'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE, BUT STAND FORTH BECAUSE GOD, THANK YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T SHOW ANY OTHER SPEAKERS. WE WILL MOVE TO INFORMATION SHARING PROCLAMATION FOR BLACK

[Proclamation for Black History Month]

HISTORY MONTH. 2100 IN MY. NINE OKAY? THIS IS A PROPOSED TO GIVE THIS PROCLAMATION AFTER WHAT I JUST HEARD. CITY MCKINNEY PROCLAMATION. RESIN SEPTEMBER 1915, HARVARD TRAINED HISTORIAN CARTER, G. WOODSON ADMINISTER JESSE E. MORELAND FOUNDED THE ASSOCIATION FOR THE STUDY OF NEGRO LIFE AND HISTORY. ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO RESEARCHING AND PROMOTING ACHIEVEMENTS BY BLACK AMERICANS AND OTHER PEOPLES OF AFRICAN DESCENT. WHEREAS KNOWN TODAY AS THE ASSOCIATION FOR THE STUDY OF AFRICAN AMERICAN LIFE AND HISTORY, THE GROUP SPONSORED A NATIONAL NEGRO HISTORY WEEK IN 1926, CHOOSING THE SECOND WEEK OF FEBRUARY TO COINCIDE WITH THE BIRTHDAYS OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN. AND FEDERAL DOUGLASS, FREDERICK DOUGLASS. WHEREAS THE EVENT INSPIRED SCHOOLS AND COMMUNITIES NATIONWIDE TO ORGANIZE LOCAL CELEBRATIONS, ESTABLISHED HISTORY CLUBS AND HOST PERFORMANCES AND LECTURES. WHEREAS BY THE LATE 19 SIXTIES AS A CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT HELPED INFLUENCE GREATER AWARENESS OF BLACK IDENTITY.

NEGRO HISTORY WEEK HAVE HAD EVOLVED INTO BLACK HISTORY MONTH ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, CANADA, THE UNITED KINGDOM AND OTHER COUNTRIES. WHEREAS PRESIDENT GERALD FORD OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED BLACK HISTORY MONTH IN 1976, CALLING UPON THE PUBLIC TO SEIZE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR THE TOO OFTEN NEGLECTED ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF BLACK AMERICANS IN EVERY AREA OF ENDEAVOR THROUGHOUT OUR HISTORY. EVERY AMERICAN PRESIDENT SINCE HAS DESIGNATED FEBRUARY IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH AND ENDORSE A SPECIFIC THEME. WHEREAS THE 2021 THEME BLACK FAMILY REPRESENTATION, IDENTITY AND DIVERSITY EXPLORES THE AFRICAN DYSPHORIA AND SPREAD OF BLACK FAMILIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. THEREFORE I GEORGE FOLDER BY THE POWER VESTED IN ME AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, TEXAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 2021 IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH IN THIS CITY, WHERE DOES MY HAND AND SEAL THE SECOND DAY OF FEBRUARY 2021? THANK YOU.

BEFORE WE MOVED TO THE NEXT ITEM. WANT TO MENTION THAT THIS PAST WEEK MAY JOHN GAY PASSED AWAY. FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW WHO JOHN GAY ISSUE. CERTAINLY KNOW THE JOHN AND JUDY GAY LIBRARY. HERE IN MCKINNEY. JOHN WAS A WAS A MAYOR. IN THIS CITY AND A TRUE PIONEER IN ADVANCING OUR COMMUNITY. HIM AND HIS WIFE, JUDY, HER SISTER, JOAN, THE PASSED AWAY YEARS AGO. WE'RE ADVOCATES FOR EVERY EVERY NEED THAT EXISTS IN THIS COMMUNITY.

THEY WERE INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING. JUDY CONTINUES TO BE INVOLVED. JOHN WAS INVOLVED UNTIL THE DAY HE PASSED AWAY. AND WE LOST A GREAT MAN IN THIS COMMUNITY. TRULY A GREAT MAN.

AND HE WILL BE HE WILL BE MISSED DEARLY. HE WILL FOREVER BE HONORED IN OUR CITY. BOTH IN NAME SECOND ON BUILDINGS. WHAT. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY AND IN THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF PEOPLE

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MCKINNEY THAT KNOW WHERE WE ARE TODAY ARE THE RESULT. OF MEN LIKE JOHN GAY, SO I WANT TO HONOR HIM. TONIGHT AND ASK EVERYONE TO HONOR HIM. THINK ABOUT HIS FAMILY WERE GOING THROUGH A TOUGH TIME RIGHT NOW. IF YOU ARE A PERSON OF FAITH, PRAY FOR JUDY AND THE REST OF HIS FAMILY, HIS CHILDREN. AND JUST REMEMBER, IT'S GREAT MEN LIKE THAT, THAT THAT. HATED THE CITY THAT WE ALL LIVED IN. MYRON BRAG ABOUT TODAY. SO WITH THAT WILL MOVE ON TO AND SENT

[CONSENT AGENDA]

ITEMS CONSENTED JENNA, OR ITEMS THAT CONSISTS CONSISTS NONCONTROVERSIAL OR HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS REQUIRED BY LAW ITEMS MAY BE CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY, BUT ANY COUNCIL MEMBER MAKING SUCH REQUEST PRIOR TO EMOTION AND VOTE ON THE CONSENT ITEMS. OR ANYONE THAT LIKE TO PULL ONE OF THE ITEMS DOWN PRIOR TO A APPROVAL. THE CONSENT ITEMS, MR MAYOR, HAVE SOME SOME ITEMS I WOULD LIKE TO PULL DOWN. ITEM T M P. 21 0116. ITEM TMP 21. DASH 0066. AN ITEM T M P 21 01 TO 0. COULD BE VOTED ON INDIVIDUALLY WITH THE RATIONALE BECAUSE THOSE INVOLVED FEDERAL AGENCIES AND FOUR TO BE CAUTIOUS THAT THEY'RE VOTED ON SEPARATELY BECAUSE I DO WORK FOR A FEDERAL AGENCY. I DON'T KNOW. WE'RE NOT CONCERNED, MY EARTH. I'M SORRY.

I'LL COME BACK. I'LL COME BACK. ALRIGHT. THAT'S GOOD. WELL WE'LL MAKE A NOTE OF THOSE THIS WEEK. THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS? NOT ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVED THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT'S LOOKING GOOD. HIS CAST YOUR VOTES. SOMETIMES. OKAY. OKAY, I GET IT. RIGHT.

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit Request to Allow for a Self-Storage Facility (Davis Group Storage), Located 900 Feet North of White Avenue and Approximately 270 Feet East of Hardin Boulevard, and Accompanying Ordinance]

NEXT ITEM. REGULAR GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS THIS PORTION AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS REQUIRING THE INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION BY THE COUNCIL. THE FIRST IS 2000 S U P THREE CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ACT. SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST TO ALLOW FOR A SELF STORAGE FACILITY, LOCATED 900 FT NORTH OF WHITE AVENUE IN APPROXIMATELY 270 FT. EAST OF HARDENED BOULEVARD AND ACCOMPANYING ORDINANCE. JENNIFER ARNOLD, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. THANK YOU. MR MAYOR. AGAIN JENNIFER ARNOLD, DR. CLEANING ON AS YOU READ IN THE DESCRIPTION. THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR A SELF STORAGE FACILITY OVER OFF OF THE HARDENED AND THREE A T INTERSECTION. THE UNDERLINING ZONING ON THE PROPERTY IS FOR COMMERCIAL USES. IT DOES REQUIRE THAT A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT BE CONSIDERED IN ORDER TO OPERATE THAT FACILITY ON THE SITE. THEATRIC UNT FLIP OVER HERE TO BE. PREDICTED IT. THEO AFGHAN HAS PROVIDED THE ATTACHED PROPOSED EXHIBIT FOR THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST.

STAFFS EVALUATED THE SITE. IT IS CHECKED OFF OF THE ROADWAY FRONTAGE. IT'S GOT SOME ADJACENT SEAT TO THE RACING ON CAMPUS. AND SO WE DO FEEL AS THOUGH THE LOCATION IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE. THE AFRICAN IS MEETING ALL OF THESE STANDARDS OF THE CITY.

SUCH WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST. WAITING AND ZONING COMMISSION ALSO CONSIDERED THE ITEM AND IS ALSO RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. QUESTIONS. COME AND I AGREE WITH THAT EXACT SENTIMENT THAT'S IN THE RIGHT PLACE ON THIS PARCEL. RIGHT IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT. I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE THE AFRICAN LIKE SPEAK. WELCOME TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IF YOU LIKE. HI. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I'M GONNA BE VERY BRIEF BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THIS ARNOLD NAME AND ADDRESS.

GRAVE READ. WE ARE LOCATED AT SHOPS LEGACY. TOWN CENTER. IS OUR OFFICE IT HERE IN TEXAS. I REALLY JUST WANTED T GET UP IN AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HOPEFULLY DO THIS DEVELOPMENT DAVIS GROUP IS A NOT ONLY A BUILDER, BUT WE'RE ALSO DEVELOPER OWNER OPERATOR FOR THIS FACILITY, AND WE'VE DEVELOPED OVER TWO MILLION SQUARE FEET. IN GEORGIA, TEXAS, SAYING ACTUALLY JUST EXPANDED IN FLORIDA, SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU'RE ROSE. QUESTIONS FOR THE AFGHAN. THANK

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YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. I DON'T SHOW ANY SPEAKERS. BUT IF YOU WERE HERE AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE YOURSELF KNOWN. SEEN NONE ENTERTAIN A MOTION. YOU'RE ALL MOVED TO APPROVE THE ITEMS PRESENTED. HE CLOSED THE PUBLIC AREA CLOSE BOTH KERRY SECOND CASTRO VOTES.

RIGHT? SO IT IS WRITTEN. THE MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 200011 S U P

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit to Allow for Automobile Sales, Repair, and Storage Uses (McKinney Dodge), Located at the Northwest Corner of Rockhill Road and U.S. Highway 75, and Accompanying Ordinance]

TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ACT ON A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW AUTOMOBILE SALES REPAIR AND STORED JUICES. MCKINNEY DODGE LOCATED THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF ROCK HILL ROAD AND U. S HIGHWAY 75. THE COMPANY IN ORDINANCE, JENNIFER THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. AGAIN.

JENNIFER ARNOLD, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING A ZOO. YOU READ. THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST TO ALLOW FOR AUTOMOTIVE SALES ON THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY THIS IS LOCATED GENERALLY ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF US 75 IN VIRGINIA PARKWAY. THIS SITE MAY LOOK FAMILIAR TO YOU ALL. IT'S BEEN BEFORE YOU A COUPLE OF TIMES IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. MOST RECENTLY WE DID PROCESS THE REZONING REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM MEDICAL IN OFFICE USES TO SEE THREE, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USE. DISTRICT IN THE CITY. UM THE APPLICANT IS COMING FORWARD TODAY. THAT TO REQUEST A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR CAR DEALERSHIP ON THE SITE. THIS S U P REQUEST. IT'S SIMILAR TO ONE THAT YOU ALL HEARD ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WE HAD A SIMILAR REQUEST FOR ONLY A SMALLER PORTION OF THE PROPERTY STUFF WAS IN SUPPORT OF THAT REQUEST BACK IN THE 2019 TIMES BRAIN, HOWEVER, WITH THIS NEW REQUEST, THE SPP IS ACTUALLY LOOKING TO EXPAND ITS AREA AND SIZE. BY ABOUT SIX ACRES. SO WHAT WAS CONSIDERED BACK IN 2019 WAS ABOUT SEVEN ACRES IN SIZE. WITH THIS NEW REQUEST IT WOULD EXPAND TO ABOUT 13 ACRES IN TOTAL SIZE. BECAUSE OF THAT STAFF DOES HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE ENCROACHMENT OF THE AUTOMOTIVE USES ON A TRACK THAT WAS JUST REZONED FOR HIGH COMMERCIAL USES. UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE UNABLE TO OFFER FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION THERE. I DO KNOW THAT THE AFRICAN IS HERE TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE REQUEST. WE DID TAKE THIS ITEM TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THEY HAVE OFFERED A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION ON THE REQUEST. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND AGAIN, SO IS THE APPLICANT. THE QUESTIONS FOR JENNIFER. RIGHT. THANK YOU, JENNIFER. WITH THE AFRICAN PLEASE COME UP STATE YOUR NAME. NAH, JUST FOR THE RECORD. GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL MATT MAURY CLAYMORE ENGINEERING 301 SOUTH COLEMAN PROSPER, TEXAS.

HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF MCKINNEY, DODGE, JENNIFER ALLUDED. WE WERE HERE BEFORE YOU ABOUT 18 MONTHS AGO FOR THE ORIGINAL S U P FOR A STATE ALONE JEEP DEALERSHIP. WHAT HAS CHANGED OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS IS MCKINNEY DOLLARS, IS STILL UNDER A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH CHRYSLER AND THEIR EXISTING FACILITY WITH THE WIFE'S ON CAMPUS REDEVELOPMENT. THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY ACQUIRE ANOTHER SIX ACRES. TO EXPAND THAT TO GET THEIR ENTIRE OPERATION UNDER ONE ROOF, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THEIR GOAL IS SO THEY CAN CONTROL THEIR OWN DESTINY AND NOT BE TIED TO A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH CHRYSLER. AZIZ JENNIFER NOTED THE C THREE REASONING THAT WE PROCESSED A FEW MONTHS AGO. WAS PRETTY ENTIRE WYSONG HOSPITAL CAMPUS, THE PROPERTY THAT WEAVE INCLUDED IN THIS JEEP MCKINNEY DODGE ISSUE. P WAS A LOT OF THE REAR PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE CREEK. IT WASN'T A LOT OF THE FRONTAGE ON THERE WAS NONE OF THE FRONTAGE ON VIRGINIA. IT WAS ROUGHLY AN ACRE OF FRONTAGE ALONG 75 THAT GOT ADDED INTO THE REQUEST, SO THE BULK OF THE PROPERTY ACTUALLY SITS AT KIND OF THE REAR OF THE HOSPITAL CAMPUS ALONG THE CREEK. AND SO WE FELT LIKE THIS WAS A GOOD SOLUTION FOR SOME OF THAT REAR PROPERTY THAT OTHERWISE WOULDN'T BE SUITED FOR A HIGH INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USE. OTHER NET. IT'S A VERY SIMILAR OPERATION, WHAT THEY HAVE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF ROCK HILL.

AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR FAVORABLE APPROVAL OF THIS S U. P HAS PRESENTED. CAME OUT BECAUSE THEY WON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MATT. UH, I'M GOING. SO THE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH CHRYSLER'S NEXT DOOR THERE, OBVIOUSLY WANTING THIS PIECE TO MOVE. WHAT HAPPENS AT LEAST A GREAT AGREEMENT WITH CHRYSLER AS THEY MOVE AGAIN. THEY'VE GOT THE RIGHT FOR THE MENU FOR THE POINT FOR THE DEALERSHIP POINT. THAT OPERATIONAL MOVE TO THEIR NEW FACILITY THAT THEY CONTROL

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AND THEN CHRIST WAS LEFT WITH REAL ESTATE. AND THEY PUT ANOTHER CHRYSLER DODGE DEALER SISTER. I BELIEVE THEY WOULD HAVE TO REQUIRE TO THE RESCUE P IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. BECAUSE MY QUESTION OK WAY GONNA HAVE TWO COMPETING DODGE DEALERSHIPS NEXT DOOR TO EACH OTHER. THAT WILL NOT BE ALLOWED BY MANUFACTURER. THERE'S A SEPARATION REQUIREMENT THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE. QUICK QUESTION. WHAT'S THE VALUE OF THE BUILDING AND ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT SIDE? GET A BALLPARK FIGURE. WE'RE PROBABLY GETTING CLOSE TO 15 MILLION. WITH THIS ADDITIONAL BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE AND ACREAGE OF PARKING SO FORTH, OKAY? OKAY? OTHER QUESTIONS WERE HAPPENING JUST REAL QUICK ON THE CORNER, OF VIRGINIAN 75.

WHAT IS THE MAGIC MAKERS WERE LEFT? I BELIEVE WE'RE RIGHT AROUND 5.5 ACRES LEFT BETWEEN THE VIRGINIA FRONTAGE, AND THEN IT KIND OF L'S ALONG 75. S O. THERE'S ROUGHLY, I THINK THREE PAD SITES ALONG 75. THEN I'LL BE TO PAD SITES ALONG VIRGINIA. THAT'S THE THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. YEAH, WE CAN GO BACK TO THAT, ARIEL. THAT'S STACY. THREE MUCH FOR ME, CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT. AND SO. C THREE SHONI LET'S CLOSE THE BUILDING WAS ALL RIGHT THROUGH HERE AND THEN WITH THE RE STP REQUEST BE. WE CAN SEE THAT GREEN, CAN YOU WOULD BE THIS AREA HERE. THAT WOULD BE THE S E P FOR THE CAR DEALERSHIP. IN AN A FOR SKILLFUL USE OF COLORS.

SHE DID A LOT BETTER THAN I DID. I'M REACHING OVER MY HAND WAS SHAKING A LITTLE BIT. SORRY ABOUT THIS. I'M IMPRESSED THE THREE LINES OR FOUR LINES, SO THE LIKE, LIKELY USAGE OF THAT FIVE ACRES. YEAH, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE KIND OF YOUR TRADITIONAL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. YOU'D SEE IT ANY OTHER INTERSECTION LIKE THIS? THERE'S NO SPECIFIC USERS THAT HAVE BEEN AIN'T AT THIS POINT. UM YOU KNOW, THE PROSPECTIVE BUYER, THE HOSPITAL CAMPUSES AND PROCESS OF FINALIZING ALL HIS DUE DILIGENCE AND HE HASN'T CLOSED JUST QUITE YET. I BELIEVE THAT. IS IT ACCURATE TO SAY THAT, UM THIS S U. P IS GONNA INFLUENCE WHETHER OR NOT THAT CAMPUSES PURCHASED AND THERE'S COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT HAPPENS ON THAT CORNER.

ABSOLUTELY. ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? THANKS SIR. THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING'SY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE ADAM MAY DO SO NOW. SEEN NONE ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION WE CLOSED PUBLIC URINE AND PREVIOUS ITEM. WE TALKED. OKAY, JUST CLOSE THE PUBLIC HERE. UM. SO WHEN THIS THING CAME BEFORE US, WHAT ABOUT 16? 17 MONTHS AGO, WELL, LET'S CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, THOUGH. OH JUST SOCIAL 2ND 2ND, OKAY? EXTRA VOTE ON CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH. WAY ALREADY HERE. IT'S TRUE. I DON'T LIKE THIS. PRETENDING. SO WHEN WE, WEIGH LOOK AT THIS. BASICALLY. GAVE HIM THAT PROPERTY THAT BEFORE WE TALKED ABOUT. YOU KNOW OUR LEAST I MENTIONED THAT THE FACT THAT I DIDN'T THINK THEY WERE VERY GOOD NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THEY CONTINUE TO CLOG THE STREETS WITH THEIR WITH THEIR CARS UP AND DOWN THE STREETS, AND WE GET COMPLAINTS FROM THE OTHER NEIGHBORS. UH, WAY CONTINUE TO BUILD, YOU KNOW, CAR DEALERSHIPS ON THAT 75. LET'S TAKE UP MORE MORE PROPERTY THAT MIA HASN'T CHANGED. UM. AND YOU KNOW, AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO HERE IS WE'RE GONNA APPROVE THIS ITEM PROBABLY AND AGAIN. JUST TAKE AWAY ANY OPPORTUNITY. WE HAVE TO MAKE A GOOD YOU KNOW, I'M IN A REAL NICE THING ON THAT CORNER AND ON THAT PROPERTY. BUT THAT'S WHAT MCKINNEY DOES SO MANY TIMES IS THAT WE WEIGH MORTGAGE YOUR FUTURE BECAUSE WE THINK ALL WE NEEDED NOW, AND THIS IS ONLY THING WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW. BUT. AND SO I JUST THINK THAT WE'RE FOOLISH WHEN WE WHEN WE CONTINUE THIS EXTEND THE AUTOMOTIVE FOOTPRINT HERE.

THAT'S JUST WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. THE COMMENTS. QUESTION OF STAFF COULD, MR MERRICK. START ON

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GOING BY MEMORY, WHICH IS FAILING, BUT I SEEM TO RECALL IS COMING BEFORE THE COUNCIL BEFORE IN AMAZEMENT, JUST P NZ WHEN I'M SITTING IN LISTENING TO THAT, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE GRANTED ESPECIALLY USED PERMIT. FOR A PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY AND IF THEY WANTED TO, THEY COULD BUILD THAT RIGHT NOW. THAT'S CORRECT AND ALL KIND OF NOTE THAT AREA HERE FOR YOU OFTEN SEE IF I CAN'T FIND A COLOR. EXISTING SPP IS GENERALLY GOES UP TO ABOUT THIS LINE HERE, SO THAT AREA AND THINK, GENTLEMEN, I JUST SPOKE ON IT SAID HE'S JUST TAKING ANOTHER ACRE OF FRONTAGE ON THERE. AND THEN ANYTHING ELSE IS TOOK BACK BEHIND. COMMERCIAL USES. CORRECT YES, I CAN'T. I CAN'T VOUCH FOR THE ACREAGE. BUT YOU ARE CORRECT. IT'S OFF OF THAT FRONTAGE. YEAH, AND IT APPEARS TO ME THAT. RIGHT NOW, EVEN IF WE VOTED AGAINST THIS, THEY COULD GO BACK AND BUILD IT THE WAY ITWAS CORRECT. YES ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION, AND THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT RADIO. IT'S WHAT I NEEDED. THE OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION.

RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I'M JUST GONNA SURMISE WHAT I'M SEEING HERE IS WE'RE. THE DEALERSHIP IS MOVING FROM ONE LOCATION TOGETHER. CRESTED DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO OPEN ANOTHER DEALERSHIP THERE. MANY ONE WANTED TO COME IN AND DO ANOTHER DEALERSHIP WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AN S U P FROM US BECAUSE IT WOULD NO LONGER BE A RESIDENT TENANT OF BUSINESS OWNERSHIP DEALERSHIP OWNERSHIP. UM. THEY ARE REALLY TAKING A SMALL PORTION ON FRONTAGE. I AM SPEAKING TO THE POTENTIAL BUYER OF THE WYSONG PROPERTY, WHICH HAS BEEN A PROPERTY. A LONG, LONG LONG AVAILABLE AND. NOT MANY PEOPLE NOT HAD SUCCESS OR NO ONE'S HAD SUCCESS TO DATE.

FOR THEM TO MAKE THIS WORK. I KNOW THAT THEY FEEL IT IS WELL, THEY DON'T FEEL THEY HAVE SAID IT IS DEPENDENT ON THIS HAPPENING. THE WAY THEY NEGOTIATE. IT WAS TO KEEP MOST OF THAT ALONG THE BACK, WHICH THEY DON'T FEEL THEY CAN DEVELOPED WITH ANY KIND OF SUCCESS COMMERCIAL, BUT THEY'RE WILLING TO TAKE A STAB AT THE FRONTAGE. SO WHERE WE ARE GIVING UP PORTION UP THERE. THAT'S ABOVE THAT BLACK LINE ROUGHLY OF FRONTAGE AND THE BACK PIECE. WHAT WE'RE GETTING IN RETURN IS THE LOSS OF THE DEALERSHIP BELOW ROCKHILL. AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE WEISSMAN PROPER THAT WILL BE DEMOLISHED AND REBUILT AS COMMERCIAL. JUST PUT IT IN A SUMMARY. QUESTION THAT HAPPENED. JENNIFER I'M NOT TRYING TO INCREASE YOUR STEPS TODAY. BUT, UH. IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE TO REASONABLY GUESS AT THE FOOTPRINT? LET'S SAY SOMEONE WANTED TO TAKE THAT. HARD CORNER. IS IT? WHAT'S A REASONABLE GUESS AS TO WHETHER FOOTPRINT OF A SINGULAR BUILDING WOULD BE THERE, AND I ACTUALLY THINK THAT THE APPLICANT MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION BETTER THAN I COULD. SO I'M GONNA DEFER THAT TO THEM. THINK THAT TOMO MAN? THAT WAY. WOW. YEAH. IF I UNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION IT WAS, WHAT WOULD POTENTIALLY DEVELOP AT THE CORNER. SO, YEAH, SO YOU KNOW, BECAUSE MAYOR PRETEND WAS TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW WAY HAVE WE HAVE THE LOSS OF ACREAGE? IT'S GOT TO AFFECT WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO THERE AND I'M NOT DEVELOPER AND THAT'S I'M JUST YOU KNOW IF THEY A ORGANIZATION WANT TO COME IN. AND SAY, LISTEN, WE'RE GONNA BUILD, YOU KNOW, X A BUILDING A STRUCTURE. WHAT KIND OF A FOOTPRINT COULD THEY ACTUALLY HAVE? OBVIOUSLY GOT MULTIPLE STORIES. BUT WHAT WOULD A REASONABLE FOOTPRINT BE FOR THAT SPACE THAT'S LEFT WELL, THE SPACE IS GIVING HIS ROUGHLY 5.5 ACRES. IT'S BASICALLY GOT 300 FT OF DEATH. OFF OF 75 OFF OF VIRGINIA, AND THAT BASICALLY ALLOWS US THE ABILITY TO KIND OF DO YOUR TRADITIONAL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AT AN INTERSECTION. SO PAD SITES OR AN OUTLAW WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL HIM. THAT WAY. WE'VE GOT THIS THING LAID OUT AFFORDS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO YOUR TRADITIONAL AL PARTIAL TIME DEVELOPING. TOE VENTURE A GUESS ON A SINGULAR BUILDING THAT MIGHT GO. IT'S HARD TO SAY ON 5.5 ACRES BECAUSE I TRULY THINK THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME SMALLER USERS. THAT'S MY CONCERN HERE IS THAT YOU KNOW WHAT DO WE LOSE? WHAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE LOSE ON A DARK CORNER? NO WAY HAVE. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT PAD SITES AND SMALLER BUSINESSES ARE WRONG, BUT THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE GIVING OUT. MAYBE LARGER BUSINESS EFFECTIVELY AND I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DIMENSION. BUT WE'VE GOT

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BASICALLY. A COUPLE 100 FT. MAYBE IF THAT ALONG THE CREEK THAT WE HAVE THAT TO DEVELOP A BULL. THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF ACREAGE. IT'S IN THE FLOODPLAIN IN THE EROSION HAZARD SETBACK THAT THE CITY WILL REQUIRE. AND SO YOU KNOW THE EFFECT OF DEVELOPMENT AREA IS ONLY A COUPLE 100 FT WHERE WE'VE GOT ADDITIONAL PARKING TO SUPPORT THE DODGE DEALERSHIP. THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT PROBABLY FELL TO SAY IN MY INITIAL PRESENTATION IS WHAT WE ARE ACQUIRING SIX ACRES, THERE'S PROBABLY A COUPLE OF ACRES OF FLOOD PLAIN. THAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS THAT IS NOT DEVELOP A BLE FOR ANY KIND OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. SAYING SURE PICKED UP FROM THE SERVICE ROAD. 200 FT. SORRY BUT THAT'S ROUGHLY PROBABLY A COUPLE 100 FT OF DEATH. THANK YOU. I HAD A QUICK QUESTION. WHERE YOU HERE, MR. MOORE. UH WE TALKED ABOUT THE PARKING. AND THE PARKING ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE DEALERSHIP. YOU DROPPED OUT THERE AND IT USED TO BE PARKED ON BOTH SIDES. AND SO DIFFICULT TO GET UP AND DOWN. IT SEEMS LIKE. THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE PARKING ON THIS THAN THERE WAS ON THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET. CORRECT OKAY. I THINK THE ACREAGE IS DOUBLING ALMOST FROM HIM SAYING NUMBER ONE. I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT WHO WAS PART WAS IT THE. EMPLOYEE PARKING IS THAT WHEN IT WASIT WAS, IS IT LOOKED LIKE SOMEONE WERE NEW CARS. BUT I CAN'T SAY EXACTLY. I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY BEEN IN THE PAST SOME EMPLOYEE PARKING. THERE'S SOME OFFLOADING OF NEW INVENTORY THAT I KNOW HAS OCCURRED OUT THERE, RIGHT AND I KNOW THAT AFTER THE LAST GO AROUND, YOU KNOW THERE WAS CONVERSATION OF THE PATH OF WHERE THEY WERE TEST DRIVING CARS, AND ALL THAT YOU KNOW WAS PURPOSELY MOVED OUT TOWARDS THE FRONTAGE ROAD AND NOT BACK TOWARDS THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY? SO ARE THERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HIM? PARK, THE EMPLOYEES ON SIDE AND BE ABLE TO PARK THE CARS THAT THEY GOT ON SITE WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO USE THE. THE ROAD.

WHY MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS. IT DOES AFFORD THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY, OKAY? MOTHER.

QUESTION NOTHING. QUICKLY. GOODBYE STREET ORDER. UNNECESSARILY TIED TO THIS. I THINK THAT WAS MY HIGH SCHOOL. COULD COME BACK AND MAKE THAT NO PARKING STREET. WITH QUESTIONS. JUST MAKE A COMMENT IF A GOOD MR MAYOR. TRYING TO DRAW SOMETHING. BUT 1ST MAY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS SECTION RIGHT HERE. IN A COMMERCIAL CORNER. I AM SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH, UM. AND WE'RE PRESERVING THAT AND TUCKING THE REST OF THIS CAR DEALERSHIP BACK IN BEHIND THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. AND THE REASON FOR MY QUESTION EARLIER IS IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THESE FOLKS IF THEY WANTED TO COULD COME BUILD THERE. RIGHT THERE, AND SO THERE ARE ONLY ASKING FOR A PORTION THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE IN THE PLAIN VIEW OF THE STREETS. THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT ALREADY. HUH? AND SINCE THEY ALREADY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO IT, I DON'T SEE AS MUCH HARM AND GRANTING THIS SINCE THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT RIGHT TO EXTEND ONE PORTION OF IT BEHIND COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. WANTED MR ROGERS UNDERSTAND WHY I WOULD SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I DO AGREE WITH HIM THAT WE DO NOT NEED MORE CAR DEALERSHIPS OUT THERE, BUT THEY ALREADY HAD THEIR RIGHT. I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH MAYOR PRO TEM SENTIMENT AND IF THEY DIDN'T ALREADY HAVE THAT ONE S U P. I HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION. AND MUCH OF THAT, ON THE BACK IS IN FLOOD PLAIN. TWO ACRES IS 2.5 FISH. AND WE'RE LOSING THE CAR DEALERSHIP ON THIS OUTSIDE. IF WE APPROVE THIS I THINK THERE'S A FORTHCOMING ORDINANCE ON STREET PARKING. THE OTHER COMMENTS OR. IF NOT ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOTION THAT WAY CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE AUTUMN AT PRESENT. ONE SECOND EXTRA VOTES. I HAVE NOTHING. I HAVE NOTHING. ACTUALLY. OKAY? NOTHING ON MY SCREEN. COUNCILMAN COACH WOULD BE MY

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SECOND ON MATTERS. PARKING ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS. SO ALL RIGHT WE BROUGHT OUT FINDING.

I'M THINKING THAT BEING ON OUR AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER 20012. 72 CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to Modify the Development Standards and to Allow for Multi-Family and Commercial Uses, Located on the Northwest Corner of Frisco Road and State Highway 5 (McDonald Street), and on the Southwest corner of Spur 399 and State Highway 5 (McDonald Street)]

CONSIDER AN ACT ON REQUEST TO REZONE SUBJECT PROPERTY PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PD ONLY TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS INTO ALLOWED FOR MULTI FAMILY COMMERCIAL USE IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF FRISCO ROAD AND STATE HIGHWAY FIVE AND ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF SPUR 3 99 AND STATE HIGHWAY FIVE. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. JENNIFER ARNOLD, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING. THIS IS AN APPROXIMATELY 28 ACRE TRACT ON THE SORT OF SOUTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. RIGHT. WHERE U S 75 1 21, 3, 99 AND HIGHWAY FIVE ALL SORT OF SPUR TOGETHER. FROM THEIR RESPECTIVE INTERSECTION POINTS. THE PROPERTY ITSELF IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU MIGHT BE USED TO SEEING AS WE DO HAVE TWO DISTINCT TRACKS. AS PART OF THIS REZONING REQUEST IS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE SCREEN. UM.

IN BETWEEN THESE TWO INDIVIDUAL TRACKS. WE DO HAVE SOME EXISTING MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS. ONE IS ALREADY EXISTING. THE OTHER ONE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.

ON GWIL SORT OF SEPARATE THESE TWO TRACKS FROM ONE ANOTHER. HOWEVER THE SITE ITSELF IS UNCOVERED BY THE SAME ZONING DISTRICT, SO THEREFORE THE APPLICANT IS COMING TO REQUEST TO REZONE OF THE 28 ACRE TRACT. TO MODIFY THE USES AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. AS PROPOSED. STILL AERIAL EXHIBIT IN PICTURES. AS PROPOSED. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TOL REZONE TO A PD. AND AS PART OF THAT PD, THERE WOULD BE THREE DISTINCT TRACKS. I APOLOGIZE IF THIS IS AN ORIENTED NORTH SOUTH, HOWEVER, TRACKED. ONE IS THIS TRACT RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS ALONG THE 1 21 FRONTAGE LANES TRACKED TO IS RIGHT THERE. IT'S ABOUT 18 ACRES IN SIZE AND TRACKED THREE IS THAT SMALL LITTLE TRACT THERE TUCKED AWAY ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE. WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY FOUR ACRES IN SIZE, AS REQUESTED, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TONTO INCLUDE FOR TRACKED ONE COMMERCIAL USES ON DFA ATTRACTS TWO AND THREE THE AFRICAN IS REQUESTING THE ALLOWANCE OF MULTI FAMILY USES ON THOSE PROPERTIES. AS PART OF THE REZONING REQUEST THEY HAVE PROVIDED AN INFORMATIONAL EXHIBIT TO HELP ILLUSTRATE WHAT THEIR DESIRED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN MIGHT LOOK LIKE FOR THEIR PROPOSED MULTI FAMILY USES. SOME OF THE NEWER STOP, MULTI FAMILY THAT YOU'VE ALL SEEN US BRING FORWARD HERE RECENTLY, IS THAT WITH PEOPLE CALL SINGLE FAMILY FOR RENT, WHICH IS MULTI FAMILY THAT LOOKS AND FEELS MORE LIKE SINGLE FAMILY USES SO WELL, YOU CAN SEE HER ON THIS ILLUSTRATION IS THAT CONCEPT SORT OF IN PICTURES. THE STAFF IS EVALUATED THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST. WE DO HAVE CONCERNS WITH INTRODUCING MULTI FAMILY USES ON THIS TRACT, GIVEN THE VISIBILITY OR HIGH VISIBILITY AND ADJACENCY TO SOME OF THESE MAJOR ROADWAYS IN THE CITY. WE ALSO HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE INTENSITY OF MULTI FAMILY THAT'S BEING PROPOSED. THIS IS A LOWER IMPACT, MULTI FAMILY PRODUCT AND IN A LOCATION SUCH AS THIS, WE DON'T REALLY FEEL THAT IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE ROADWAYS AND THE LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S CURRENTLY OUT THERE. AS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS AREA IS ENVISIONED TO BE MORE FOR OFFICE AND PROFESSIONAL CAMPUS USES. WE DO HAVE CONCERNS THAT INTRODUCING MULTI FAMILY ON THESE TRACKS COULD INHIBIT THAT, OR WOULD OBVIOUSLY INHIBIT THAT. OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY IN THE FUTURE. WE ARE UNABLE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. IT DID GO BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IN A VOTE OF FIVE TO THE PNC DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT THEY MIGHT BE ASKING FOR. I KNOW WHERE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE, AND IT'S HAPPENING. ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL. MAN. YEAH PLEASE, MR ARNOLD. SEEM TO RECALL A PROJECT COMING TO US BEFORE AND I THOUGHT IT WAS ON THE SAME TRACK WERE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO. HIS URBAN LIVING WITH OFFICE ON THE LOWER SON AND APARTMENTS UP ABOVE. IS THAT THIS TRACT OF LAND, NOT MY RECOLLECTION THAT LIKE YOURS. MINE IS ALSO FADING. HOWEVER I DON'T I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE PROCESSED ANYTHING FORMALLY THROUGH PNC, YOUR COUNSEL FOR THAT ON THIS TRACT. AND. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS. ALSO A FAMILY THAT LOOKS LIKE SINGLE FAMILY. IS THAT GOING TO BE AN ACTUAL PART OF THE. ZONING IS IT GOING TO BE LIMITED TO THAT? OR IS THAT JUST SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN DO UNDER THAT ZONING? I BELIEVE THAT THE ANSWER IS

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THAT IT IS TIED DOWN IN THE ZONING. LET ME CONFIRM THAT REAL QUICKLY BEFORE THE BIG SWITCH COME INTO THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE MY QUESTION AND IMPORTANT ONE ME. GET TO MY STANDARDS HERE JUST TO MAKE SURE. AND MR ARNOLD, AND SHE WOULD LIKE SOME TIME TO SIT DOWN, AND I THINK THE APPLICANTS PROBABLY GOT TO SPEAK TO US FOR A FEW MINUTES AND YOU COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND COME BACK UP. I HAVE FOUND IT S SO I'M HAPPY TO HELP ME INTO THAT. SO WITH THE REQUESTED REZONING, THEY COULD DO A TRADITIONAL MULTI FAMILY ESQUE STYLE. HOWEVER, SOME OF THE STANDARDS THAT ARE BUILT IN WOULD REALLY PROHIBIT THEM FROM DOING ANYTHING THAT'S MORE TRADITIONAL. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, AS REQUESTED WITH E M F ONE BASE ZONING DISTRICT, IT WOULD BE LIMITED IN HEIGHT TO TWO STORIES, WHICH TRADITIONAL MULTI FAMILY THAT WE'RE SEEING TODAY IS GENERALLY AT THE THREE STORY RANGE. THEY'RE ALSO ADDING SOME LIMITS THAT NO MORE THAN SIX DWELLING UNITS WOULD BE PERMITTED AND WITHIN A SINGLE BUILDING, WHICH WOULD ALSO BE VERY LIMITING ON BEING ABLE TO DO SORT OF A MORE TRADITIONAL STYLE WILL TAKE FAMILY SO BECAUSE OF SOME OF THOSE STANDARDS THAT ARE IN THERE, IT WOULD BE HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT THEY COULD DEVELOP SOMETHING OTHER THAN THIS CONCEPT THAT YOU'RE SEEING APPEAR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS EARL, JUST FROM A GLOSSARY STANDPOINT. UH, IT WOULD BE THE OFFICIAL DEFINITION OF A CLUSTER HOME. CLUSTER HOMER CLUSTER. HOW'S IT IMPOSES THAT SOMETHING IN OUR ZONING OR IS THAT JUST SOMETHING THAT SO IT'S A REAL THING IT WE DO HAVE SOME REFERENCES TO IT IN PLANNING TERMINOLOGY CLUSTER CLUSTER HOUSING REALLY IS MORE GEARED TOWARDS SINGLE FAMILY AND SO REALLY WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DEFINITION OF CLUSTER HOUSING, IT'S A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE CLUSTERED CLOSE TOGETHER. NOT NECESSARILY SINGLE FAMILY LOOKING HOMES ON THE SAME LOT, AND THAT REALLY DOES IS WHAT PUSHES YOU OVER INTO THAT MULTI FAMILY CATEGORY. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MULTIPLE UNITS ON A SINGLE LOT. ON YOU'RE OWNING THE STRUCTURE AND THE LAND THAT'S UNDERNEATH IT AS AN INDIVIDUAL THING. YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. GOTTA QUESTION, HMM.

SO. THERE ZONING THESE TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY KIND OF LIKE IT'S ONE, BUT IT'S TWO SEPARATE, COMPLETELY SEPARATE, DIFFERENT PROPERTIES. CORRECT? YES, SIR. SO. WHAT IF WHAT IF I DON'T MIND THIS, BUT I DON'T WANT THIS. WHAT IS. YOU KNOW, I THINK WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT COMMERCIAL CAN CONTINUE TO BE BUILT THERE? WHY? WHY WHY ARE WE GONNA PUT MULTI FAMILY ANYTIME FROM HOUSE AND WHY CAN'T WE JUST DO THIS? AND SO WHY? WHY DON'T WE JUST. DO THE WHOLE THING, YOU KNOW, DO I VOTE AGAINST THE WHOLE THING? BECAUSE I THINK. THIS THIS MAKES SENSE BECAUSE IT'S HARD CORNER TO GET THROUGH WITH THIS ONE. I THINK STILL COULD BE A COMMERCIAL. ABSOLUTELY AND SO I MEAN, I THINK THE APPLICANT I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE AFRICAN, BUT I THINK THEIR PREFERENCE WOULD BE NOT TOL. NECESSARILY DENIED OR TAKE ACTION. IF THAT'S YOUR CONCERN AND ALLOW THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY COULD COME BACK AND JUST REQUEST THAT SMALL PORTION, SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN ALL OR NOTHING DEAL, HOWEVER, THAT IS WHAT'S ON THE TABLE TONIGHT FOR THE APPLICANTS, SO IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO REQUEST SOME SHIFTS AND CHANGES. I'M SURE THAT THE AFRICAN WOULD BE HAPPY TO DISCUSS THOSE AND TALK ABOUT VIABILITY OF THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. EVER GO BACK TO THAT. WHAT? SO WHAT? WHAT DOES THIS SOUND FOR RIGHT THERE, SO THIS ENTIRE TRACKED AND I'M GONNA KNOW. SUPERIORS REAL QUICK. THERE WAS A HORRIBLE NO, YOU'RE ALL GOOD. YOU COULD JUST SAY IT. THOSE WERE NO. THOSE WERE GREAT CIRCLE, GREAT CIRCLES, SO THIS ENTIRE TRACT IS CURRENTLY ENCUMBERED UNDER ONE ZONING, AND THAT ZONING DOES ALLOW FOR MULTI FAMILY.

HOWEVER IT CAPPED THE NUMBER OF UNITS OF MULTI FAMILY 500 OR 700 UNITS. I CAN REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. AND SO THESE TWO CIRCLES THAT YOU JUST THREW THOSE AIR WHAT ARE CURRENTLY ALLOWED UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING, AND SO THAT CAPPED OUT THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WERE ALLOWED ON THE TRACT. AND THAT'S WHY THE APPLICANTS COMING BACK AND REQUESTING FOR AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT COULD BE ALLOWED ON THAT ZONING S O THESE AIR ALL UNDER THE SAME ZONING, THOSE MULTI FAMILY UNITS ARE ALREADY THERE ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS PART OF THAT ZONING. TAPPING IT OUT, WHICH IS WHAT'S NECESSITATING US TONIGHT. SO I MIGHT UNDERSTAND, THEN ZONING ACTUALLY ALLOWS FOR, BUT IT'S THAT THE NUMBER OF YEARS SO THE REQUEST IS TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF UNITS NOT CHANGED. THERE'S ONLY WELL IN MODIFY A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT. YES SO AS PART OF THE MODIFIED THEM SO THEY COULDN'T BE STANDARD MULTI FAMILY. CORRECT. I'M TRULY ASKING THAT OUT OF IGNORANCE, SO GET NO. WITH YOU. UNDER

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UNDER THE ZONING. AS IT SITS, WE ALLOWED TO DO COMMERCIAL IF THEY CHANGE THE ZONING NOW, WOULD YOU STILL BE ABLE TO DO COMMERCIAL ON THE SOUTH END? YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION. IS THIS THE ONLY TYPE OF HOUSING PRODUCT I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT? MAYBE THE SINGLE FAMILY IS THERE IS THIS NOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO REZONE IT FOR A DIFFERENT HOUSING PRODUCT? BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE OFTEN HAVE TALKED ABOUT IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. OF CREATING SOME MORE. MORE SINGLE VAMP AFFORDABLE HOUSING. FOR IT IS THERE EVER IS THAT CLASSIFICATION? YEAH. SO YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING TO DEVELOP HER. CAN SHARE. IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN MULTI FAMILY HOUSING IF WE EVEN REZONED IT TO SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE WE REALLY NEED MORE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING OPTIONS, AFFORDABLE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING OPTIONS, GEORGE SO I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE AFRICAN ON THE OPPORTUNITIES FROM FROM THE PRIVATE SIDE. I WILL. IF I COULD BE CANDID WITH YOU FROM STAFFS PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE A STRONG CONCERN WITH ANY RESIDENTIAL HERE BECAUSE IT'S MULTI FAMILY. ONE PART, BUT RESIDENTIAL IN GENERAL IS THE OTHER CONSIDERING THE FACT TONIGHT DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THIS AERIAL. HE HERE AND SEE IF I CAN'T KIND OF SHOW THIS SO I WENT TOO FAR. OKAY, SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS AT THIS PROPERTY, EVEN THE VICINITY MAP. I THINK IT'S GREAT. IT'S REALLY IS THIS CONVERGENCE OF SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ROADWAYS, AND THAT'S THAT'S REALLY WHAT FOUNDS A LOT OF OUR CONCERNS ABOUT RESIDENTIAL IN THE TRACT. BECAUSE WE'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT INTRODUCING RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES AND USES RIGHT WHERE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW. THREE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ROADWAYS COMING TOGETHER, AND IT'S NOT SHOWN HERE, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME OF THE HIGHWAY 3 80 FEASIBILITY STUDY AND IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED FROM TEX DOT AND WITH SOME OF THE RECONSTRUCTION OF HIGHWAY FIVE ON SOME OF THE PROJECTS THEY'VE GOT. WE DO FEEL LIKE THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THESE ROADWAYS ARE GOING TO INCREASE QUITE A BIT. WHICH COULD ULTIMATELY INCREASE COMMERCIAL POTENTIAL ON THESE TRACKS ABOVE AND BEYOND A RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT. THANK YOU. RIGHT? YES, THAT'S CHECK UP YOU LOWER LEFT. SAY THAT AGAIN. ON HIGHER EDUCATION. YES, I KNOW THIS RIGHT HERE WELL TO THE LEFT. YES THIS IS THE CHECK.

AND THEN THIS IS THE HOSPITAL RIGHT HERE. AND THESE ARE SOME OFFSPRING MEDICAL OFFICERS.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. QUESTIONS. THE AFGHAN COME UP.

MR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL ON BOB ROTOR 1700 RED BUDS SUITE 300 MCKINNEY HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANTS. UM I'D LIKE TO SORT OF START BY ADDRESSING SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AND THEN I'LL GIVE YOU THE OVERVIEW OF MY MIND. I THINK ONE OF THE BASIC. ISSUES HERE FROM WHICH THE QUESTIONS STEM IS WE'RE USING THE TERM MULTI FAMILY.

FOR THIS FOR A LOT OF THIS PROJECT. WE USE THE TERM MULTI FAMILY BECAUSE OF MCKINNEY. ANY PROJECT ON WHICH THEREFORE MORE DWELLINGS. IT'S ON A SINGLE LOT IS A MULTI FAMILY PROJECT. AND SO WE'RE STUCK WITH OUR EXISTING ZONING. AND WE'RE DOING A PD TO TRY TO MAKE IT ALL WORK. THIS IS MR RICHARDSON WOODS. THIS THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY. FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE THE DOWN PAYMENT TO BUY $400,000 HOME AND MCKINNEY I LIVE IN A RENTAL PROPERTY THAT LOOKS LIKE AND ACTS LIKE AND FEELS LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. SO I THINK WE'RE ADDING TO THE INVENTORY OF HOUSING OPTIONS IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY WITH THIS PROJECT. NOW THE FACT THAT IT'S CALLED MULTI FAMILY, MR PHILLIPS. WE HAVE PUT LIMITATIONS IN THE PD. AS HIS ARNOLD REFERENCED. WE HAVE A HYPE LIMITATION NO MORE THAN 35 FT. WE HAVE A DENSITY LIMITATION ACROSS THE ENTIRE TRACK. OF 10 UNITS PER ACRE OR LESS. WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT

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THAT NO MORE THAN SIX LIVING UNITS CAN BE IN A SINGLE STRUCTURE. AND SO GIVEN THAT YOU COULD CONCEIVABLY HAVE TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT. BUT YOU WOULD NOT, THE MARKET WOULD NOT SUPPORT AND NOBODY WOULD BUILD A TRADITIONAL MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. THERE. WE PUT THOSE IN PLACE SPECIFICALLY TO ENSURE THAT THIS PROJECT EITHER. GO AS IT IS, OR FOR SOME REASON, IT DOESN'T MAKE. YOU WILL NOT SEE TRADITIONAL MULTI FAMILY ON THIS PROPERTY.

I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE USE HERE BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION IN THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTIES LAID FALLOW FOR I CAME HERE IN 1974. AND IT HADN'T CHANGED SINCE THEN. THE ACCESS OFFICE FOR 3 99. IS ONE POINT JUST TO THE SOUTH EAST OF MEDICAL CITY DRY. THAT ONE POINT IS THE ONLY ACCESS ONTO THIS PROPERTY ALONG SPUR 3 99. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MY CLIENT HAS DONE IN THIS PD IS IT HAS SENT ASIDE SEVEN. I MEAN 4.7 ACRES. THAT YOU SEE AS TRACKED ONE FOR COMMERCIAL USES. THAT HIM? OUR OPINION IS THE ONLY THING THAT IS SUSTAINABLE, GIVEN THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION OF THE ROAD SYSTEM. TECH STOCK HAS YOU MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT KNOW AS A.

VERY HIGH LEVEL SCHEMATIC FOR FUTURE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS OUT HERE. THAT COULD BE EASILY 20 OR 30. YEARS AWAY. NOBODY KNOWS WHEN THAT WILL HAPPEN. IT'S NOT ON ANY TECH STOCK PLAN FOR CONSTRUCTION. AND THE BEST IT WOULD DO WAS BE TO CREATE HER EXTEND THAT ACCESS ROAD IN A SOUTHEASTERLY DIRECTION ALONG A LOT OF THAT FRONTAGE. NOW YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE VERY SOUTHERN SOUTHEASTERN TIP. THERE'S A POND OR A DRAGGING STRUCTURE. THAT'S THERE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE ALL THE WATER FLOWS THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN UPON, IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE UPON YOU CAN'T RECLAIM IT. ON SO YOU'RE REALLY NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT MUCH FRONTAGE ON SPUR THREE DINING NINE THAT WE HAVEN'T ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR. IN THE 4.7 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL. THIS PARTICULAR PRODUCT IS INTENDED TO HIT A COUPLE OF POPULATIONS THAT ARE UNDERSERVED IN MCKINNEY. ONE IS THE. THE YOUNGER MILLENNIALS OR THE MID MILLENNIALS THAT AIR WANTING TO MOVE OUT OF AN APARTMENT. I WANT TO GET INTO A SINGLE FAMILY STYLE DEVELOPMENT. I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY THE $30,000 OR WHATEVER IT TAKES FOR A DOWN PAYMENT FOR A HOUSE.

SO THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO THEM FOR THEM TO MOVE INTO. THESE STRUCTURES, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A FEW TOWN HOMES. YEAH. THERE'S NOBODY LIVING ABOVE YOU AND THERE'S NOBODY LIVING BELOW YOU. SO YOU'VE GOT YARDS. YOU'VE GOT FENCES. YOU'VE GOT COMMON AREAS, SO THIS IS GONNA LOOK AND FEEL TO THAT POPULATION. AS A REALLY NICE, HIGHLY A MINUTE EYES, SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. OTHER POPULATION THAT THIS TARGETS ARE THE OLDER BABY BOOMERS. THOSE FOLKS THAT EITHER WANNA LOCK AND LEAVE OPPORTUNITY WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO MAINTAIN ANYTHING THAT CAN BE TAKEN LIVE THERE. THERE PEOPLE THAT DON'T CARE ABOUT HAVING HOME OWNERSHIP. THERE. THEY TAKEN THEIR EQUITY OUT OF THEIR HOME AND THEY WANT TO SPEND THAT EQUITY ON THINGS OTHER THAN HOUSING, AND THAT'S THE OTHER POPULATION THAT THIS IS AIMED AT. UM THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS ARE VERY POPULAR IN MANY PARTS OF THE UNITED STATES. WE'RE JUST NOW STARTING TO SEE HIM. IN TEXAS. BUT THIS IS A HIGHLY A MINUTE IZED.

PROJECT. AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT STAFF RAISED WITH REGARD TO OUR DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. AND WE HAVE SATISFIED. I THINK ALL OF THOSE AS AS YOU SAW IN YOUR STAFF REPORT THAT YOU READ, SO WE ARE TREATING EACH ONE OF TRACK TWO AND TRACK THREE. FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE REQUIRED AMENITIES FROM THE STANDPOINT OF ALL OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF A DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE TREATING THOSE AS SEPARATE, ALTHOUGH THERE UNDER A SINGLE OWNERSHIP. AND THEY'RE GONNA BE MANAGED UNDER A SINGLE OWNERSHIP. BUT, UH, IF THE NUMBER OF UNITS ON THAT FAR SOUTH TRACK WHICH IS ON OUR PAR

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LEFT, REQUIRES SHE HAD TWO OR THREE AMENITIES WITHIN THAT GEOGRAPHICAL AREA. WE HAVE PROVIDED IN THE SAME IS TRUE FOR THE PROPERTY ON THE NORTH SIDE. UM. AS MISS ARNOLD REFLECTED THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION ON THIS AND I WOULD REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL. LET ME ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. ISN'T. I HAVE A QUESTION. SO YOU YOU YOU'VE PUT THE COMMERCIAL A COUPLE OF COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS IN THERE.

WHEN DO THEY GET STARTED? THEY STARTED AFTER THE HOUSES ARE BUILT HER BEFORE OR DURING THE.

MISTER ROGERS MAC LINE IS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER THOSE PROPERTIES. THOSE TRACKS WILL BE FOR SALE. MAC MY CLIENT WILL NOT DEVELOP THOSE. WE DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE EVER GOING TO BE DEVELOPED. WELL, UM. YOU'RE IN A YURT IN AN AREA OF MCKINNEY THAT I WOULD SAY THAT IS PROBABLY THE RULE. NOT THE EXCEPTION. YOU HAVE SOUTHGATE. WHICH ALL HAVE PROMOTED FOR TWO DECADES. WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY DEVELOPMENT ON AND CLEARLY THAT IS BETTER SITUATED FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THIS PROPERTY IS HERE, SO I CAN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OTHER THAN TO SAY, LOOK AROUND. SO WHY DO YOU NEED? WHAT? WHERE WHERE? WHAT IS THE NEED FOR TAKING UP THE OTHER? THE SOUTH SIDE THAT LITTLE SOUTH AREA? WHY WHY? WHY SHOULDN'T WE JUST LEAVE THAT COMMERCIAL AND LET COMMERCIAL DEVELOPED THERE? IT'S PRESENTLY ZONE FOR ASSISTED LIVING.

ADDITIONALLY AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE INTENDED USE IS THERE UH, THIS SOUTHERN PEACE SORT OF CREATES. UH THE MASS THAT YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE AMENITIES MANAGE THE PROPERTY THE WAY YOU WOULD IT CREATES THE CRITICAL MASS. MAKES IT MORE PROFITABLE WELL. WERE PROFIT DRIVEN, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU DON'T WANT TO DO SOMETHING FOR A LOSS, SO YEAH, DOES MAKE IT PROFITABLE. IT'S BOUNDED BY FRISCO ROAD AND, YOU KNOW FRISCO ROAD IS GOING TO DEVELOP AS THE AS THE CITY OF FAIRVIEW DEVELOPS, BUT RIGHT NOW THAT'S NOT A HIGHLY TRAVELED ROOM. I WILL SAY TO YOU THAT IN A NUMBER OF YOU MIGHT HAVE TALKED TO HIM, MR LYNCH. THAT MEDICAL CITY. MCKINNEY VISITED WITH HIM ABOUT THIS. I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN HIS MOUTH, BUT HE WAS SUPPORTIVE OF IT. HEY FELT LIKE THIS WOULD HELP BRING MORE ACTIVITY TO HIS SECTOR OF THE CITY. THAT THE, UM. ECONOMICS OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO LIVE IN THIS TYPE OF PROPERTY, LITTLE BIT HIGHER RENTS AND IN A TRADITIONAL MULTI FAMILY PROPERTY, BUT THIS WOULD PROBABLY HIT THE SWEET SPOT FOR A LOT OF THE STAFF OF THE HOSPITAL. UH AND CLEARLY IF WE GET CRITICAL MASS OF PEOPLE THERE, THEN THE CHANCES OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPING FOR RESTAURANTS, HOTEL WHATNOT INCREASES, ALL OF WHICH BENEFITS THE WORK POPULATION AT THE HOSPITAL. SO ASIDE, LOOK AT THIS. THIS LITTLE IMAGE AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT HERE. OF IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOME REALLY TINY LITTLE HOMES AND SOME BIGGER HOMES. IS THAT CORRECT IS HOW MANY TYPES OF HOMES WHAT HOW MANY, ONE OF THE SIZE, ACTUALLY NOT WHAT THE SIZES. HOW MANY TYPES OF HOMES ARE THERE? WELL, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT. SIZES OF SINGLE FAMILY ONE STORE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME TWO STORY AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME TOWN HOMES.

THERE. THEY'RE GONNA BE TWO STORY. SO THE SIZE OF THE UNITS RANGE FROM SOMETHING A SMALL IS 800 FT, OR 900 FT, WHICH WOULD BE SORT OF LIKE A BUNGALOW. DO A HOME. THAT'S PROBABLY 2500 SQUARE FEET. SO IS THERE ANYTHING IN THIS THAT ALLOWS THAT THESE THINGS ARE INDIVIDUALLY SOLD LATER ON, THERE'S THAT CANNOT HAPPEN. CORRECT CANNOT HAPPEN UNDER THIS BECAUSE IN ORDER TO DO THAT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PLANT HIM. HIS INDIVIDUAL LOTS, OKAY? AND IF YOU HAVE OTHER SUGGESTIONS ABOUT HOW TO LOCK THIS DOWN, SO IT DOESN'T MORPH INTO SOMETHING ELSE. WE'RE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN THAT WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD ON TRYING TO THINK OF THOSE KINDS OF RESTRICTIONS WE CAN PUT IN THERE WITHOUT HAVING TO GIVE YOU A LOCKED DOWN. SITE PLAN BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW WHEN YOU GET OUT THERE AND START MOVING DIRT LITTLE LINES, CHANGE IN STREETS MOVE A LITTLE BIT AND SO. I NEVER RECOMMENDED THE SNAP STAFF NEVER RECOMMENDS THAT WE INCLUDE IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE REALLY LOCKED DOWN.

PLAN. THANK YOU. WILL SAY SINCE YOU SAID YOU DON'T KNOW IF SOME OF US HAVE SPOKEN TO MR LYNCH.

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MR. LYNCH'S CEO, I BELIEVE OF MEDICAL CITY HOSPITAL. I DID SPEAK WITH MR LYNCH CALLED HIM TWO REASONS. ONE WANTED NO. WAS HE WOULD HE BE OPPOSED TO IT? I'M NOT BEING COMMERCIAL, AND SECONDLY, DID HE FEEL THAT WOULD BE A BENEFIT. RESIDENTIAL SOUND LIKE THE SAME QUESTION, BUT NOT NECESSARILY AND SPECIFICALLY THIS TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL I WILL SAY THAT MR LYNCH. SAID VERY MUCH SO THIS WOULD BE A BENEFICIAL PRODUCT FOR HIS STAFF FOR THE HOSPITAL.

HE FEELS IT WOULD BE AN ATTRACTIVE OPTION AS A SINGLE FAMILY. ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IT'S BEING RENTED, WHICH, OF COURSE, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, A TURKEY HEAVILY PLATTER SINGULARLY PLANTED CAN ALSO BE GRANTED. OF COURSE, AS WE ALL KNOW. BUT HE DID SPEAK FAVORABLY. I WASN'T SURE WHAT RESPONSE I WOULD GET FROM HIM.

BUT THAT WAS THE RESPONSE. SO I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING. I JUST SPOKE TO MR LYNCH. AND HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION WITH HIM. ON THIS. HE WAS HE WAS SAID THIS WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR HIM.

BUT WE HAD A BETTER IDEA. HE'S ALL LEADERS. AND SO THAT'S HOW WE KIND OF LEFT IT. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT 572 UNITS IN HERE IS THAT IS THAT A NUMBER 212. OKAY? STUDENT TRIP. HOW MUCH WOULD THE OKAY S SO HOW MANY OF THE TOWN HOMES ACTUALLY WILL BE BUILT? DON'T THINK THAT WE'VE SPECIFIED THAT HOW MANY OR TOWN HOME AND HOW MANY OR NOT, I WOULD SAY THEY'RE MIXED TYPICALLY IS I'M GOING SAY $50. SO SIX. ABOUT A THIRD E THINK THEY'RE PLAYING ON 80 TOWN HOMES FOR ABOUT A THIRD. OF THE TOTAL NUMBER WOULD BE A PAN HOME. OR SLIDES DOWN. THERE'S.

WHERE? WHERE IS THAT WHERE IT SHOWS THE NUMBERS? VERY TINY FRIENDS. OKAY. I'M SORRY, MR AFTER THE SEVEN DIFFERENT YEAH. UH WHAT BRAND ARE WE LOOKING AT HERE? MR FRAZIER, THE I'M TOLD THAT THE RENTS ARE GONNA BE INCENSE TOE 15 CENTS A FOOT HIGHER ON AN ANNUAL RENT CALCULATION THAN YOUR AVERAGE MULTI FAMILY AND MCKINNEY. SO IF SO, I GUESS UNEXAMINED WOULD BE IF YOU'RE PAYING. $1000 A MONTH FOR A. 700 SQUARE FOOT APARTMENT. IT'S GOING TO COST YOU 1112 $100 IN THERE. SHH. LADIES. YOU DON'T HAVE ACTUALLY, I. YOU DON'T KNOW BECAUSE, REMEMBER, THIS IS AN ALL INCLUSIVE. THIS IS NOT INDIVIDUALLY OWN STRUCTURE DEAL, THOUGH. IT'S JUST ONE FEE AND THAT TAKES HIM. IT WAS JUST LIKE IT'S WRITTEN. THAT'S RIGHT. ONE SAY, THIS IS AS I MENTIONED LOCK AND LEAVE. THE INTENT HERE IS FOR THIS TO BE MAINTAINED UNIVERSALLY BY THE MANAGEMENT. UM SO IT'S. WELL, I APPRECIATE THE COMPARISON TO THE MULTI FAMILY. THERE'S FIVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENCES. JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE APPROPRIATE APPROXIMATE RANT FOR EACH ONE TO COUNCILMAN FRASER'S FOLLOWING. WHAT WERE THE APPROXIMATE RENT BE ON THOSE FIVE TYPES OF HOMES. HARRY. ME INTRODUCE ISAAC CAR PAY. HE'S WITH THE ACTUAL DEVELOPER. GOOD EVENING. CANCEL ON NAMES, EITHER. CARPET RESIDE AT 115, SANDRA MORITA WAY. AUSTIN, TEXAS AND I'M WITH THE APPLICANT. NEW GRAPH LIVING. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU. SO PART OF OUR SITE PLANNING EFFORT. WE REALLY PRIORITIZED DIVERSITY OF PRODUCT WITHIN A GIVEN COMMUNITY. TAVIS SQUARE FOOT RANGE THAT KIND OF IT'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS. YOU CAN MEET A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLES NEEDS. SO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE WE HAVE DESIGNED RIGHT NOW WOULD RANGE FROM ABOUT 675 SQUARE FOOT ONE BEDROOM UP TO A 1700 SQUARE FOOT, THREE BEDROOM. AND ATTACHED IN DETACHED PRODUCT AND ONE IN TWO STORY AND THE RENT RANGE BECAUSE THEY'RE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS WOULD BE BETWEEN RIGHT NOW LOOKING AT IT. $1300 A MONTH UP TO 2700 A MONTH WHEN YOU LOOK AT EMPIRICAL, RIGHT, AND THERE'S NO H O I ON TOP OF THAT, OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S UTILITIES AND SMALLER, OTHER EXPENSES. BUT THAT'S. THE PLAN IS DESIGNED WOULD ATTRACT AND KIND OF MEET A LOT OF DIFFERENT MARKETS BECAUSE OF THAT DIVERSITY IN PRODUCT IN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, SIZES, SO THAT'S PART OF THE VALUE PROPOSITION. AND WHAT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THE DESIGN AS A CURRENTLY STANDS. THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS IF YOU APPRECIATE IT. THE QUESTIONS. YOU, SIR. OKAY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SHOW. BUDDY.

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NOBODY ON MY LIST. IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM THAT HAS NOT SEND A CARD. SEE NONE ENTERTAIN A MOTION. REMOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND.

CAST YOUR VOTES. OKAY? RIGHT? DISCUSSION. WHAT IS THE CURRENT ZONING ALLOWED RIGHT NOW? I'M STILL HIDING OVER THERE. I'LL BRING YOU BACK UP. SO WELL. THAT LITTLE SPOT HE SAID WAS ZONE FOR SENIOR LIVING. SO RIGHT, THE ZONING ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW ALLOWS FOR A MIX THAT SORT OF COMMERCIAL OFFICE USES. THERE'S INDEPENDENT LIVING ON A SMALL PORTION OF IT ON THE ON THE SORT OF SOUTHERN SIDE. AND THE MULTI FAMILY AND I DID WANT TO CLARIFY THIS BECAUSE I DIDN'T SPEAK EARLIER, THE ZONING THAT ALLOWS FOR THE MULTI FAMILY CAPS A MULTI FAMILY AT 500 UNITS, AND IT ALSO DOES LIMIT THE MULTI FAMILY TO THAT CENTRAL PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. SO THE AREAS AROUND IT ARE WHERE WE'RE SEEING THAT COMMERCIAL IN OFFICE USES. ARE YOU SAYING? PERHAPS IT 500. CLUED THE TWO AND THE CENTER.

THAT IS THE TWO IN THE CENTER, SO THE TWO IN THE CENTER ARE HITTING THAT 500 CAP. YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT. AND SO. OUR RIGHT OF THE SCREEN IS I'M LOOKING AT IT. WE'RE YES, MA'AM. YES, SIR. WHAT IS ALLOWABLE IN THAT AREA. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE MORE THE COMMERCIAL IN OFFICE USES. UNDER THE CURRENT PD. THAT'S CORRECT. MISSIONS. COMMENTS. RIGHT? YOUR EMOTION. MOTION ON THE TABLE. MIKE EMOTION. WE APPROVE THIS ITEM. SECOND. I WILL. SECOND THE ITEM. I BELIEVE THAT THIS PROVIDES A DIVERSE PRODUCT IN OUR LARGEST LARGE HOSPITAL PARTNER. HAS. SAID THIS WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO HIM IN HIS BUSINESS AND WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. CAST YOUR VOTES.

MOTION PASSES. I MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER. 20014 Z TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “C2” - Local Commercial District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to Modify the Development Standards and to Allow Multi-Family Uses, Located on the Southeast Corner of Hardin Boulevard and Virginia Parkway, and Accompanying Ordinance]

CONSIDER AN ACT ON REQUEST TO RES ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM SEA TO LOCAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT GENERALLY TO MODIFY DEVELOPING STANDARDS AND TO ALLOW MULTI FAMILY USES, LOOKING IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. HARDENED BOULEVARD IN VIRGINIA PARKWAY AND ACCOMPANYING ORDNANCE. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. WE DID RECEIVE WORD FROM THE APPLICANTS YESTERDAY THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING TO TABLE THIS ITEM TO THE MARCH. 2ND CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO COORDINATE WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. THE ITEM. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS WELCOME TO BE OPENED, BUT STAFF DOES WORK OF RECOMMEND. TABLE IN THE ITEM. CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE WILL RE NOTICE BEFORE THE THREE TO COUNCIL MEETING. SO I WOULD. FOR ASK IF THERE'S A MOTION TO DO THAT SAY THAT I AM FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT IF. IF THE APPLICANT WISHES TOO. TO GET THIS ZONING APPROVED. IT WILL BE BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND ARE IN FAVOR OF IT. UM MY GUESS IS THAT THIS UNIT? THIS REQUEST IS NOT GOING TO PASS UNLESS THERE IS BUY IN AND DESIRE FROM THE ADJOINING PROPERTY. SO I'D SAY THAT JUST TO ENCOURAGE THE APP CANTO. EITHER. GET THAT. GET THAT CONSENT. WORK OF THEM. DO YOU HAVE IT? AND IF YOU DON'T

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MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO WITHDRAW. BUT THAT'S OF COURSE, JUST ONE OF SEVEN VOTES.

COLONEL, IS THIS BEEN TABLE BEFORE? JUST LISTEN THE FIRST TIME WE'VE SEEN THIS LOOK SO THIS YES. SO WE DID SEE THIS REQUEST ABOUT 6 TO 9 MONTHS AGO, IT WAS WITHDRAWN AT THAT POINT IN TIME. SO THIS ISN'T TECHNICALLY A NEW REQUEST, BUT IT IT'S SAME SAME TRACKED A LOT OF THE SAME STANDARDS. WILL AGREE WITH WHAT MR MARRIAGES SAID. I'M ANNOYED THAT. WAS HAVING THE SAME THING COME BACK MULTIPLE TIMES. DOES THAT MEAN JUST TO BE JUST BE FRANK. YES.

THAT YOU NEED PROTECTING JENNIFER OR YOUR STAFF. BUT EVERY TIME THIS COMES BACK IT'S KNOWS HOW MANY HOURS WORTH OF WORK. AND IT'S JUST ANNOYING. I'LL HAVE ENOUGH TO DO WITHOUT HAVING SOMETHING COME BACK LIKE. ZOMBIE REQUEST. IT'S JUST YOU KNOW, THE WALKING DEAD. NOT TO MENTION THE EMAILS THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP ANSWERING, THAT NOT TO MENTION THE RESIDENTS HAVING TO IF THEY HAVE, THEN THEY DO A STRONG FEELING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. THEY LIVE ON. THE NEEDLE'S RELATIVELY WAITING FOR WINS THE NEXT YOU GONNA DRIVE? ANNOYED GO FROM CITY STAFF STANDPOINT AND FROM A RESIDENT'S NAME. NO, JUST, UH YOUR STATE ANYMORE. ELOQUENTLY THAN I WOULD. LIKE, SAY SOMETHING POSITIVE. I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST VOCAL AND WELL ORGANIZED NEIGHBORHOODS AGAINST THE PROJECT I'VE EVER SEEN. AND I RATHER DOUBT THAT. ANYONE'S GOING TO COME BACK IN HERE AND GET APPROVAL OF APARTMENTS AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF HARDEN AND VIRGINIA. AND CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK I'VE ANSWERED EMAIL FROM EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM AT THIS POINT IN TIME, AS WELL AS EACH OF MY SIX COUNTERPARTS. THERE IS STRONG OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT. I CONCUR. OH, MOTION TO TABLE THIS DOES THE PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL MARCH. 6TH IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. WORKED SIX. I'M SORRY FOR JUST A SECOND, YES, THANK YOU.

DIRECTION THANK YOU APPRECIATE IT. DID JENNIFER MAKE YOU THINK OF JENNIFER? THANK YOU. CAST YOUR VOTES. RIGHT MOTION PASSES. EXCITE HIM. THE MP 201265 CONSIDERING ACT ON THE

[Consider/Discuss/Act on the Throckmorton Statue Ad Hoc Advisory Board Research and Findings]

THROAT BORN STATUE AD HOC ADVISORY BOARD RESEARCH AND FINDINGS. FROM. GOOD EVENING, MR MAYOR. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. CAN BRING YOU BACK A LITTLE BIT TOE LAST SUMMER. YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT WE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE THROCKMORTON STATUE ON THE IMPACT SQUARE. IN RESPONSE TO THAT THE COUNCIL FORMED AN ADVISORY BOARD TO GIVE THE ISSUE SOME MUCH NEEDED TIME AND SPACE FOR RESEARCH AND DISCUSSION AND THAT BOARD OF 11 COMMUNITY MEMBERS WORKED REALLY HARD TO GAIN COMMUNITY INPUT AND ALSO PUT A FULL PICTURE OF THE STATUE HISTORY TOGETHER. WE PRESENTED A SUMMARY OF THAT A SUMMARY OF THE PUBLIC INPUT SOME OF A SUMMARY OF THE RESEARCH FINDINGS AND EVERYTHING TO YOU IN OCTOBER.

DEFINITELY RECOGNIZED THAT IT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION, SO WE TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT YOU NEED TO BE SOME TIME TO PROCESS THAT WE ALSO WELCOME TO NEW COUNCIL PERSON AND THAT MIDST BUT HERE WE ARE AGAIN TODAY TO TALK ABOUT IT. TO GET YOU STARTED MARKED OD IS GOING TO GET JUST A VERY QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE ADVISORY BOARD FINDINGS AND THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAD OVER TIME JUST FOR A QUICK REFRESH. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL MEMBERS MARKED OD, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PLANNING THANK YOU. KIM FOR THE INTRODUCTION. I CAN'T GIVE YOU ALL REALLY QUICK BACKGROUND. WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR S O WAY BACK IN SUMMER.

JULY, 7TH. WE BRIEFED THIS COUNCIL ABOUT CARTMAN STATUE LOCATED AT IMPACT WERE DIRECTED THAT TIME TO BRING BACK A PLANE A PROPOSED RESOLUTION FOR YOU TO DISCUSS. YOU CREATED A HAWK ADVISORY BOARD ON JULY 21ST WITH 11 MEMBERS. TOTAL APPOINTED SEVEN BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND THEN ONE APPOINTED FROM EACH DARKS COMMISSION. H P A. B. MYSTERY BOARD IN THE COLLIN COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION. THE PURPOSE OF THE AD HOC ADVISORY BOARD WAS TOO OVER THE COURSE OF THREE OR FOUR MEETINGS WAS TO ADVISE THE STAFF. IN PERFORMING RESEARCH RELATED THE CONTEXT, APPROPRIATENESS AND RELEVANCY THAT THROCKMORTON

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STATUE AND ALSO PROVIDE AN OUTLET FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. IN PRESENT COUNSEL WITH THAT RESEARCH OPTIONS FOR THE STATUE. MEETING NUMBER ONE OCCURRED ON AUGUST 19TH. WE HAD THE ADVISORY BOARD INTRODUCTIONS. WE ALSO HAD A STAFF PRESENTATION ON THE HISTORY OF JAMES WOULD THROCKMORTON AS WELL AS THE STATUE. THEIR IMPACT STAFF ALSO PRESENTED ON MONUMENTS, MEMORIALS AND ARTIFACTS KIND OF A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE HISTORY OF THOSE IN THE COUNTRY AND THEN ADVISORY BOARD HAD A DISCUSSION AND COMMENTS. SECOND MEETING ON SEPTEMBER, 2ND STAFF PRESENTED INFORMATION ABOUT THE STATE ANTIQUITIES LANDMARK DESIGNATION AND PROPER PERMIT PROCESS AND PROCEDURE THAT OLD COLLIN COUNTY COURTHOUSE, WHICH IS KNOWN AS NOW KNOWS, IMPACT IS A L THROUGH THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION. MEANING THAT ANY CHANGES TO THE BUILDING OR ITS GROUNDS HAVE TO GET A PERMIT FIRST THROUGH THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION. STAFF ALSO PRESENTED OPTIONS, INCLUDING LEAVE THE STATUE IN PLACE AT INTERPRETIVE OR CONTEXTUAL SIGNAGE TO THE STATUE. ADD ADDITIONAL STATUES OF OTHER IMPORTANT FIGURES. REMOVE IN PLACE IN STORAGE REMOVING INSTALLED AT ANOTHER LOCATION, OR JUST REMOVE AND DONATE OR SELL THE STATUE. SO THE ADVISORY BOARD HAD DISCUSSION AND COMMENTS ABOUT EACH OF THOSE OPTIONS AS WELL. PRESENTED INFORMATION ABOUT THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AND COUNTIES ON THEIR CONFEDERATE STATUES AND WHAT THEY WERE DOING ABOUT THOSE AND THEN WE ALSO GAVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT HER ONLINE PUBLIC ONLINE.

PUBLIC OPINION PLATFORM. WHICH WENT FROM AUGUST THE 10TH THROUGH I'M SORRY. SEPTEMBER 10 THROUGH SEPTEMBER, THE 27. ENEMY NUMBER THREE ON SEPTEMBER. THE 17TH WAS OUR PLATFORM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT WE HAD AT 18 18 PEOPLE THAT SPOKE IN PUBLIC ABOUT THE STATUTE IN FAVORITE LEAVING THE STATUE IN PLACE, SEVEN FAVORED RELOCATION OF IT, AND ONE DID NOT SHARE AN OPINION. WE THEN FACILITY ADVISORY BOARD DISCUSSION ABOUT OTHER MCKINNEY AND MONUMENTS.

ARTIFACTS ARE SITES THAT MAY WARRANT FURTHER REVIEW AND WE PRESENTED THE FINDINGS OF THE PUBLIC INPUT SURVEY. LIKE WE HAD A LITTLE OVER 2000 TOTAL RE SURVEY RESPONSES THAT'S ALMOST 1800 FROM MCKINNEY RESIDENTS. THE MAJORITY THE MCKINNEY RESIDENTS THAT ANSWERED THE SURVEY FAVORITE, LEAVING IT IN PLACE WITH THE NON RESIDENT RESPONDENTS ALSO FAVORING LEAVING THE STATUE IN PLACE. SO BACK TO OCTOBER, THE 20TH WE PRESENTED OVERVIEW PRETTY MUCH THE SAME PRESENTATION WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW ABOUT THE MEDIA'S OF PUBLIC INPUT COMPONENT. THEN WE ALSO HAD TO MEMBERS OF THE AD HOC ADVISORY COMMITTEE, OR ADVISORY BOARD.

MAKE PRESENTATION BOARD MEMBER JUSTIN BELLER ADVOCATED THE STATUE REMOVAL. AND THEN JUDGE NATHAN. WHY ADVOCATE TO KEEPING THE STATUE IN PLACE. AND THAT IS WHERE WE LEFT EVERYTHING BACK IN OCTOBER. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. IF THERE'S ANY THING ELSE I CAN DO. PLEASE LET ME KNOW. LESSONS FOR MR DUTY. THANK YOU, MR DIRTY. PERCUSSION. YEAH I GUESS I STARTED OFF. THIS HAS BEEN A THORN WITH OUR GUESS I SHOULDN'T SAY THORNE, A LIGHTNING LIGHTNING ROD THAT HIT OUR CITY. IT WAS ABOUT THE SAME TIME AFTER MR FORD'S DEATH IN MINNEAPOLIS. ON IT COST SO MUCH PROBLEMS DOWNTOWN. AND I WATCH THE SAME THING HAPPENED IN DALLAS ON THE FIRST ELECTION. WHEN UH WHEN TRUMP WAS RUNNING, AND I WATCHED ALL THE CITY, MR DODY WAS ACTUALLY OVER THAT PIECE FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS. AND I WATCH THE LIGHTNING ROD HIT HIT THOSE INDIVIDUALS DOWN THERE AND TEAR PEOPLE APART. WHICH COUNCIL MEMBERS? UM. TAKE SO MUCH GRIEF FROM CONSTITUENTS THAT WERE BELOVED THEM FOR MAKING A VOTE TO REMOVE SOMETHING. THAT ON A PIECE OF PARK LAND THAT NEVER TO TALK TO THE FRIENDS FROM FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM DECADES AGAIN. THEN I WATCHED ANOTHER MONUMENT THAT NEVER GOT REMOVED.

IT'S STILL SITTING IN THE CEMETERY WRAPPED AROUND WITH IN A CAGE SITTING DOWNTOWN DALLAS UM. WE'VE JUST CAME TO A POINT IN THIS PART OF AMERICA WHERE WE'RE STARTING TO FIX ALL THAT.

AND WE HAVE BLACK HISTORY MONTH THAT STARTED YESTERDAY. MY HONOR THAT I THINK THAT'S A HUGE PART OF OUR SOCIETY AND A HUGE PART OF WHAT WE ARE. HOW WE GOT HERE. UM, I STILL HAVE QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM. I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON THE SIDE OF. I'M GOING TO PROCEED WITH THE TABLE. THIS ITEM. THAT'S WHERE I WANT US TO BE. AND I'M HOPING THAT MY COLLEAGUES FEEL THE SAME WAY BECAUSE I THINK I THINK WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO HERE. I DON'T THINK WE JUST

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TEAR SOMETHING OTHER GROUND TO GO TO STOP IT SOMEWHERE. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW WE ACTUALLY MOVE THAT ITEM, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU BECAUSE WE DON'T OWN IT. UH IT'S GOT TO GO THROUGH A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHANNELS FOR US TO MOVE THAT, SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. AND I'M I'M HOPING SOME OF MY OTHER COLLEAGUES FEEL THE SAME WAY. BECAUSE I'M JUST NOT THERE YET.

I HAD TO SAY MY PIECE. WOULD CONCUR. I HAVE A COMMENT. UM. OF COURSE NOT BEING ON THE COUNCIL. WHEN THIS ALL STARTED WITH BEING A CITIZEN OF MCKINNEY AND A CITIZEN. OF DISTRICT ONE. WATCHING ALL OF, YOU KNOW, BEING AROUND TO LISTEN TO THE DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS IN THE AT AT HOT COMMITTEE. WHAT I DON'T THINK IS WE CAN CONTINUE TO KICK THIS DOWN THE ROAD. IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. AND IF I RECALL WHEN IT WAS TABLED BEFORE WAS BECAUSE WE WERE GOING THROUGH A TRANSITION OF COUNSEL, AND IT WAS BROUGHT FORTH THAT WE NEEDED TO REPLACE A POINT OF CAMPS REMEMBER, AND THEN WELL, IT WOULD BRING BACK AND HERE IT IS, IS BACK. I DON'T KNOW WHAT DIFFERENCE IS GOING TO MAKE TO TABLE IT FOR ANOTHER TIME. THAT IS MY OPINION. I DON'T THINK I MEAN, WE'VE DONE ALL THE RESEARCH. HOW MUCH MORE RESEARCH? HOW MANY MORE QUESTIONS? HOW MANY MORE MEETINGS DO WE HAVE TO HAVE? WHEN WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW. HOW MUCH MORE INFORMATION WE NEED TO HAVE. MAKE A DECISION. SO I DON'T AGREE. KICKING IT DOWN THE ROAD. TABLE IN IT FOR ANOTHER TIME, BUT THERE'S MY OPINION. MY HALF FEEL ABOUT. THE COMMENTS. I'LL SAY SOMETHING. I. OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. I'VE JUST KIND OF COLLECTED OF.

SCREENSHOTS. DIFFERENT THINGS. YOU KNOW, IT, SAYS RIOTERS TOPICAL ABRAHAM LINCOLN, TEDDY ROOSEVELT STATUES IN PORTLAND, YOU KNOW, MUSEUM WINDOW SMASH REPUBLICAN FREDERICK DOUGLASS ESCAPED SLAVERY BECOME A LEADER IN THE ABOLITION. MOVEMENT WRITERS JUST DESTROYED HIS MONUMENT ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF HIS FAMOUS FAMOUS SPEECH. UM WASHBURN UNIVERSITY REMOVES STATUES OF CONTROVERSIAL THOMAS JEFFERSON BENJAMIN FRANKLIN. WHAT AND YOU KNOW, 73% OF ALL COLLEGE DEMOCRATS SUPPORT REMOVING STATUES OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS. AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS CATHOLICS HOLD A VIGIL. WITH THE VIRGIN MARY STATUE TORCHED BY THE ANNUAL VANDALS, AND I'M JUST THINKING, I AGREE WITH YOU. FREDERICK, OUR COUNSEL. OUR CONSULATE, FRASER THAT RIGHT NOW IS PROBABLY NOT A GOOD TIME. AND SO I'M I'M I CAN OKAY? RESPONDED AS WELL. THE COMMENTS. SOME OF THE SAME OPINION. YOU KNOW THIS IS THIS HAS BEEN A LOT RAJ. JUST LIKE CONSTABLE FRASER SAID. I'VE LIVED HERE. 56 YEARS. AND DURING THAT 56 YEARS, NOBODY HAS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THAT STATUE. OKAY? I MEAN, I'VE BEEN HERE I'VE BEEN 57 YEARS. WAY DON'T NEED BE. 47 YEARS. CHRIS. HOLD ON. THAT'S WELL, LET'S ZOOM, NOT LET'S LET'S NOT LET'S YEAH. WHAT WE CAN'T HAVE. WE CAN'T HAVE THIS KIND OF INTERACTION. OBVIOUSLY IT'S A IT'S A SORE SUBJECT. YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES. THAT PUT PRESSURE ON US. WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION. IT'S A TOUGH DECISION. OKAY? IT'S NOT. WE'VE LISTENED TO YOU. WE'VE LISTENED TO EVERYBODY. WE'VE LISTENED TO BOTH SIDES. UM. BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT. WHEN YOU MOVE THE STATUE. YOU MAY BE TO APPLY SURE, MAYBE GET OUT OF OUT OF SIGHT, OKAY? IT'S OUR HISTORY. OKAY, WE NEED TO LEARN FROM OUR HISTORY. IF WE DON'T KNOW. COME

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OUT HERE. I THINK I UNDERSTAND. OKAY? THAT'S JUST WHERE I'M FOR TITLING. REALLY, I MEAN, DON'T DISAGREE. IT'S A LIGHTNING ROD SUBJECT. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANY OF THOSE STATEMENTS. OUT OF RESPECT FOR COUNCILWOMAN WOODS. DISAGREE WITH TABLE. I WANT TO HEAR EVERYBODY'S OPINION FIRST.

AND CERTAINLY OUR OPINION CARRIES. WAIT WITH ME. AND, UH, AFTER SERVING FOR A MONTH OR SO. LISTENING TOMO HER REASONING. THEN I WOULD DISAGREE WITH TABLE RESPECT FOR COUNCILWOMAN WOODS. WELL. I'M THE JUST GET REAL. THIS IS THIS IS A LIGHTNING ROD ISSUE. AND IT IS MOST MOST PROBABLY UH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IMPACT AND PRESSURE. THIS'D IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS. IT IS ABSOLUTELY DIVISIVE SUBJECT AND IT'S GOING TO IT WILL BE RESPONDED TO AND IN MAY I KNOW THAT. I ALSO KNOW THAT. SOMETIMES YOU GOT TO MAKE REALLY TOUGH DECISIONS. SO I AM. FIND A HAVE THE DISCUSSION TODAY. AND DECIDE ON THIS TODAY. RIGHT? WE DONE WITH DISCUSSION? THANKS. SO I CALLED FOR A VOTE FOR THE NO. I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE'S GETT NG TO CALL FOR THE VOTE FOR THE TABLE OF THIS ITEM. ARE YOU GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT? MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE. THIS ITEM A SECOND. VERY DISCUSSION. EXTRA GOOD. PASSIVE MOTION PASSES. ITEM TMP 21. YOU'RE A 1 1/8 CONSIDERED ACT ON AN ORDINANCE

[Consider/Discuss/Act on an Ordinance Calling for the May 1, 2021 General Election of City Council Members]

CALLING FOR THE MATE 1ST 2021 GENERAL ELECTION OF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THE ADAM BEFORE YOU IS FOR THE ELECTION OF MY 1ST 2021 THE ELECTION OF COUNCIL MEMBERS ESTABLISHED IN THE CITY CHARTER AND HIS REQUIREMENT. THE COUNCIL SEATS THAT ARE UP FOR ELECTION OR FOR MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER'S DISTRICT ONE IN DISTRICT THREE IN THE AT LARGE SEAT THAT WAS ELECTED IN 2017. ORDINANCE THIS HARNESS WILL ESTABLISH BREW SHARP THE COLLIN COUNTY ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR AS THE EARLY VOTING CLARK AND WILL ALSO ESTABLISH EARLY VOTING SCHEDULE AS WELL AS ELECTION DAY SCHEDULE. WILL ALSO ESTABLISH EARLY VOTING AND ELECTION DAY LOCATIONS, THE LOCATIONS ESTABLISHED IN THIS ORDINANCE OR FOR THE TWO CITY LIBRARIES, AS WELL AS FIRE STATION FIVE AND SEVEN ADDITIONAL CITY LOCATIONS MAY BE ESTABLISHED BY MCKENNA IS BE AS WELL IS COLLIN COLLEGE, THOSE LOCATIONS WILL BE OPEN TO ALL MCKINNEY VOTERS AS WELL AS ANY OTHER VOTE OF VOTING LOCATIONS IN THE COUNTY THAT ARE UNDER CONTRACT BY CARBON COUNTY. ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATION. AND FINALLY THIS. THE LEGAL NOTICES THAT RELATED TO THIS ELECTION WILL BE POSTED IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH, AS REQUIRED BY LAW, AND I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. ACTIONS. PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS IS A FORMALITY THAT WE NEED TO DO IT THIS TIME. AS IF WE DIDN'T PASS IT.

UHH! LOOK IF YOU DIDN'T PASS IT, IT WOULD BE FORCED UPON US AS IT SHOULD BE. UM THANK YOU, EMPRESS. THEY WON'T HAVE A QUESTION FOR EMPRESS DO NOT NOT ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOVE VERY CLOSE THE PUBLIC THE REPUBLICAN. MOVEMENT, WE'RE CLOSE. RIGHT PROVE THE ITEM IS TO PROVE THE I APPROVED ITEM. I'M SORRY, I'LL SECOND I STILL UNDER TWO. EXTRA VOTES. 21 0056

[Consider/Discuss/Act on Appointing a Member to the McKinney Armed Services Memorial Board]

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CONSIDERING ACT ON APPOINTING A MEMBER OF THE MCKINNEY ARMED SERVICES MEMORIAL BOARD. I'LL START THIS LAST TIME. I AM. THE NAME FOURTH OF PETE MCCLELLAND. MY HAD NOT TALKED TO HIM BEFORE THEN. I SENSE TALKED TO HIM, PIZZA. PATRIOT. HE'S A GREAT GUY. HE IS SERVED AS THE PRESIDENT OF ROTARY. HE'S HAS TWO OLDER BROTHERS SERVED IN VIETNAM. HIS FATHER IN LAW ON WAS A WORLD WAR TWO PILOT WHO'S STILL LIVING. WE CELEBRATE THIS 100 BIRTHDAY AND HE WOULD MAKE AN EXCELLENT CONTRIBUTION. TO THIS BOARD, AND I'M SURE HE'D BRING HIS FATHER IN LAW COUPLE TO A COUPLE OF THE BOARD MEETINGS. MAY I WISH YOU CAN THAT I HAD HEARD FROM ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THEY MAY HAVE BEEN THE CHAIRMAN WHO ASKED THAT STEVE LEBEAU, WHO IS CURRENTLY SERVING AS THE ALTERNATE BE PROMOTED TO THE. PRECEDED IN A CHAIR. AND IF MISTER ROGERS WOULD. LIKE TO NOMINATE STEVE TO MOVE UP AS HE OFTEN IT AND ASK THAT MR ROGERS CANDIDATE FILLED THE POSITION OF ALTERNATE. I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT FOR SURE. AND YOU MUST HAVE SOMEONE THEY LIKE TO NOMINATE. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SOLUTION. THAT MOTION. A MAGGOT EMOTION ON SECOND ROOTS. SHE PASSES. ADAM T. W P. 21 OWES 1 TO 9 CONSIDER DISCUSS ACT ON

[Consider/Discuss/Act on Appointing a Member to the Community Grants Advisory Commission]

APPOINTING A MEMBER TO THE COMMUNITY GRANTS ADVISORY COMMISSION. IF I MAY ON THAT ONE, I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE AARON SMITH. AARON WAS ONE OF THE CANDIDATES WHO APPLIED FOR OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. I'VE KNOWN HIM TO BE ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND VERY INTERESTED IN THE COMMUNITY. AND I THINK YOU WOULD MAKE AN EXCELLENT ADDITION TO THAT BOARD. AND SO I WOULD PROPOSE KAREN SMITH. MAKE THAT AS A MOTION IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

SUPPORT THAT. SECOND TIME. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN PHILLIPS MAYOR SECOND EXTRA VOTES. WASN'T SURE SHE HEARD. UROLOGY CALL FOR THE VOTE. PUSH YOUR BUTTONS, GUYS. THERE'S BUTTONS TO PUSH WHEN YOU MAKE A MOTION PUSH THE BUTTONS BECAUSE THAT'S THE DEAL THAT'S THE POLISH PRESIDENT. NOBODY PUSH HIS BUTTONS UP HERE. EMOTION. THEY DON'T PUSH YOUR BUTTON.

ARE YOU MISSING? MY RIG. WE DO. THE NEW GIRL, HELP YOU. WHEN WOODS FOR YOUR TECHNICAL CITY KID, IT'S ALL RIGHT. IT'S THE ONE THAT'S GREEN. YEAH. MOTION PASSES. CITIZEN COMMENTS ON

[CITIZEN COMMENTS ON MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA]

MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA. I HAVE THREE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP. BETTY. GUYS. HELLO, MAYOR, MAYOR FULLER COUNCIL MEMBERS, MR GRIMES, FIRST OFF. I WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING. MAY NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU'RE DOING WHAT YOU THINK IS RIGHT, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING THERE AND SERVING OUR COMMUNITY.

MY NAME IS BETTY. PICK ISAAC. I LIVED 11 01 WEST LOUISIANA STREET. AND I AM HERE TONIGHT AS A MEMBER OF THE COLLIN COUNTY HISTORY MUSEUM BOARD. IT IS OUR PRIVILEGE TO PARTICIPATE AND SUPPORT THE NEWLY FORMED GROUP LEGACY KEEPERS OF OLDIES MCKINNEY. OUR MUSEUM DIRECTOR KRISTEN SPALDING HAS SPENT MANY HOURS ON RESEARCH AND PLANNING FOR OUR FIRST EVENT AT ROSS CEMETERY. THIS SATURDAY THAT YOU WORRY THE SIX FROM 123, AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY, AMONG OTHERS, HAS BEEN UNDERREPRESENTED IN OUR CITY. AND WE ARE DEDICATED TO

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CHANGING THAT WITH THE HELP OF THE LEG LEGACY KEEPERS. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE UPCOMING ROSS CEMETERY TOUR AND WE HELP IT IS THE FIRST OF MANY WONDERFUL ADVANCE WE WILL PROVIDE TOGETHER. SO IT'S THIS SATURDAY. I THINK THE COLDEST IS 25, BUT I THINK IT SUPPOSED TO WARM UP TO 60 AND HOPE YOU HOPE WE'LL SEE Y'ALL OUT THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HEATERS. LENA COOPER WOULD. THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME TODAY. THE MAYOR AND THE BOARD MEMBERS. MY NAME IS KALINA COOPER WOULD MY BUSINESS IS LOCATED ON 12 OR THREE NORTH KENTUCKY STREET ONE BLOCK OVER. I AM THE OWNER OF FLAVORS BEAUTY ACADEMY. I WENT TO THE M C. D. C TO SEE IF I COULD FIND ANY GREAT MONEY OR FUNDING FOR MY BUSINESS TO HELP ME BECAUSE ME BEING THE MINORITY. BUSINESS OWNERS REALLY HARD FOR ME TO FIND BUSINESS LONGS TO THE BANKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND I CAME ACROSS THE EMPTY D. C SO I WAS BEEN TRYING TO REACH OUT TO FIND IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF GRANTS THAT COULD BE FUNDED FOR MY BUSINESS. WHAT WE DO IS BASICALLY ALMOST ST. UM YEAH. THIS ISSUE OUT STATE LICENSING FOR COSMETOLOGY, WHICH IS THE EYELASH EXTENSIONS PROGRAM ON DAY. ALSO THE AESTHETICS WHICH IS FACIALS. MY PLAN IS TO CREATE MORE JOBS HERE FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. ALREADY HAVE NINE GRADUATES THAT JUST GRADUATED FROM J. J JUNE 2. DECEMBER AND SO I WAS JUST NEEDING SOME DIRECTION OR HELP.

WITH THE GRANT THAT YOU OFFER IF IT'S LOCAL HERE AT THIS MEETING THAT STEP, I WENT TO THE ROAMING. SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY. AND I DO WANT MISS MCKINNEY TO BE ALMOST LIKE THE BEAUTY EMPIRE. WE ALWAYS HAVE TO DRIVE 30 40 MINUTES JUST TO GET A LICENSE TO GO TO THOSE COSMETOLOGY SCHOOLS. AND I'M UP AND RUNNING NOW SO WITH MY OWN MONEY, AND I'M JUST ASKING THE CITY TO HELP ME AND DIRECTLY IN THE WAY WHERE I COULD GET GRANTS LOCALLY HERE TO EXPAND ON THE CONSTANT OLOGY AND EVEN OFFER UM, BARBER SCHOOL HERE MECHANIC TOO, BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE THAT DEVELOPMENT HERE IS WELL. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME, E. I'M GONNA. BREAK PROTOCOL HERE AND EXERCISE, I THINK. YEAR OLD PRIVILEGE AND ASK YOUR QUESTION, OKAY? YOU SAID THE NAME OF YOUR BUSINESS. I DIDN'T CATCH IT EITHER BRAVEST. BEAUTY ACADEMY. AND DID YOU SAY YOU DID GO TO CDC FOR GRANT OR YOU WERE? YES I WENT THERE AND THEN THE WOMAN TOLD ME I DIDN'T QUALIFY FOR ANY OF THE AREAS. SO I DON'T KNOW LIKE A RABBIT HOLE I KEEP FALLING INTO JUST COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION THEY HAVE ACTUALLY BY LAW. THERE'S VERY STRICT GUIDELINES. SO IF THEY TOLD YOU THAT IT WOULD BE THAT QUALIFIED, BUT WHAT? WHAT DO YOU HOW MUCH YOU TRYING TO RUN JUST FOR MY PROMOTION TO GET IT HERE. I KNOW. EVENTUALLY MY BUSINESS. MY BUILDING IS ONLY 12,012 SQUARE FOOT. SO FOR A COSMETOLOGY SCHOOL IF Y'ALL WANT TO OGLE BEAUTY SCHOOL OR ANY OF THOSE BIGGER NAMED PAUL MITCHELL, THEY'RE LOOKING AT LIKE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT. SO, UM, THAT'S WAY ABOVE WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO. I JUST NEED TO GET THE FUNNY YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A GRANT FOR HOW MUCH. BETWEEN 12 AND 15,002 HELP ME WITH PROMOTIONS GETTING THE EQUIPMENT I'M USING ALL MY MONEY. I'VE SAVED $20,000 OF MY OWN MONEY IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. TOE PUT INTO THE BUSINESS THAT I HAVE NOW, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BETH BENTLEY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL IN MR GRIMES.

DIFFERENTLY. I REALLY DIDN'T THINK I WAS GOING TO SPEAK BUT SUBMITTED A CARD AND NOT SURE WHAT I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT. BUT CONSIDERING THE CONVERSATION IN THE VOTE THAT JUST TOOK PLACE. RIGHT? SOMETIMES I THINK WHEN PEOPLE WHEN THEY SAVE PEOPLE SAY THINGS THEY. THEY SAY IT BECAUSE THIS WAS IN THE HEART. I THINK OUT OF THE ABUNDANCE OF THE HEART. THE MOUTH SPEAKS AND SO. AND I ALSO THINK THAT WHEN PEOPLE HAVE PAWS IS BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON ON THE INSIDE THAT THEY'RE NOT QUITE SURE HOW TO DEAL WITH AND SO WITH THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE HERE, I THINK IT'S MORE THAN JUST A MATTER OF THE STATUE.

THINK THE STATUES A SYMPTOM? OF A DEEPER CONCERN THAT WE HAVE, AND I THINK WE HAVE TO GET TO

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THE CORE IN THE ROOT OF WHAT THAT IS. AND I THINK RIGHT NOW, THAT IS THIS IS INDICATIVE OF WHERE WE ARE SO STALEMATE 43. IT'S THE IT'S INDICATIVE THAT WE HAVE SOME THINGS TO DO IF WHEN WE CAN HAVE A VOTE OF 70 WITHIN A DAY TO REMOVE AN ENTIRE MOBILE FACILITY, MOBILE HOME FACILITY AND CREATE A PARKING LOT. YET WE HOLD MULTIPLE MEETINGS AND EXPAND LOTS OF TIME CREATES SURVEYS. AND, UM. REGARD TOC SOMETHING THIS BRICK AND MORTAR. THAT'S INDICATIVE OF SOMETHING DEEPER THAN OFF A VOTE. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO JUST I IMPLORE YOU. TO FIND OUT WHAT THAT IS, AND SO IT TOOK. AND COUNCILMAN FRASIER YOU SAID YOU SAID, I NEED MORE TIME. SO DURING THAT TIME PLEASE REACH OUT. TALK TO PEOPLE DIG DEEPER TO SEE WHAT IT IS THAT IS CAUSING THAT PAUSE BECAUSE IT COULD BE THAT IT'S UM IT'S AN INDICATOR IS A BASELINE FOR SOMETHING THAT COULD EXTEND EVEN INTO WHAT WE'RE ADDRESSING RIGHT NOW, WITH THE EAST SIDE REDEVELOPMENT, AND WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT SAME. PAWS INTO THAT BECAUSE IT COULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO I I'M JUST I EMPLOY YOU TO PLEASE DO THAT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. DIG JUST A LITTLE BIT DEEPER BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WILLING, I AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU THINK ABOUT GOING BACK. TO HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKERS GO TO COUNCIL MANAGER COMMENTS. THIS WOMAN HAVE GOT TO START

[COUNCIL AND MANAGER COMMENTS]

TONIGHT. I AM. HAPPY BLACK HISTORY MONTH. THAT THAT'S A HAPPY BLACK HISTORY MONTH.

YEAH, UM. NO, NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS TODAY. FRANKLIN. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT ACTUALLY COMES FROM WORK SESSION. MM. LISTEN TO THE CHIEF KISNER. AND I LISTENED TO THE MCKINNEY. THE MCKINNEY I S D. AND I JUST WANT TO COME IN AND STAFF. THE POLICE THE FIRE EVERYBODY THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH GETTING THE VACCINE OUT, AND IT'S SO GOOD TO SEE OUR COMMUNITY WORKED IN OUR COMMUNITY COMES TOGETHER. WHEN THERE'S A CRISIS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY MAKES MCKINNEY GREAT. IS THAT IS THAT WE DO THAT? AND I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT. THE FOREFRONT. THANK YOU. WHEN FRAZIER YEAH, I WOULD. LET'S SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK. I LIKED ALSO SAY, HAPPY BLACK HISTORY MONTH. EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE OR EVER, EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN A POLICE OFFER, OFFICER. I'VE DONE SOME TYPE OF PARTICIPATION IN THIS MONTH WHERE I CAME FROM IN SAN ANTONIO. IT WASN'T RECOGNIZED.

IT IS UP HERE IN NORTH TEXAS, AND THAT'S A SHAME. THE HISPANIC CULTURE DOWN THERE RECOGNIZES MORE THAN THEN THE BLACK HISTORY MONTH. SO WHEN I CAME HERE, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS RELATIVELY NEW TO ME ON AND TO UNDERSTAND IT. ESPECIALLY WHEN I WORKED WITH A LARGE SECTION OF AFRICAN AMERICAN OFFICERS WHERE I STARTED IT SOUTHWESTERN UP CLIFF ON. I ALSO PLAYED FOOTBALL ON THE ALL BLACK FOOTBALL TEAM AND I WAS THE ONLY WHITE GUY. THAT WAS THE THAT WAS ANOTHER CULTURE. POSITION THAT I LEARNED VERY QUICKLY WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE GROWING UP HERE, 21. YOU'RE A POLICE OFFICER. SO I RECOGNIZE THE TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS THAT WE HAVE WORKING TOGETHER. IT'S NOT EASY. WHEN I SAID IT WAS A LIGHTNING ROD, THAT WAS AN UNDERSTATEMENT, WATCHING WHAT HAPPENED TO THE INDIVIDUALS IN DALLAS DURING THE TIME DINNER STATUE, THEY MOVED FASTER THAN YOU COULD MOVE. AND THEY MADE HORRIBLE DECISIONS. THAT STATUE'S BEEN THERE FOR OVER 100 YEARS. IF WE TAKE A FEW MORE MONTHS OR HOWEVER LONG WE TAKE TO GET TO THE END OF THAT ROAD. THAT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IS IT BUT WE CAN GET TO THE END OF THE ROAD TOGETHER. THAT'S THE THING THAT'S GONNA MAKE THE DIFFERENCE. SO I WHEN I SAY PAUSE AND TRY TO FIND MY INNER SELF OR TRY TO FIND SOMETHING I'M LOOKING FOR. I'LL FIND IT.

I'LL LET YOU GUYS KNOW. I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW TONIGHT I DIDN'T HAVE IT. AND I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS RIGHT. AND I KNOW I HEAR LITTLE COMMENTS IN THE BACKWOODS AND WELL, THAT'S FINE. I CAN DEAL WITH IT. UM. BRING UP THE MOBILE HOME PARK WHERE WE GET A 70 VOTE. WE HAD PEOPLE LIVING IN HOBBLE OVER THERE. WE HAD WE HAD NO ELECTRICITY SHARING, ELECTRICITY SHARING SEWER, NO SEWER. WE HAD AN AREA THAT WAS COMPLETELY DILAPIDATED. IF YOU

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WANTED US TO LEAVE IT LIKE THAT. I GUESS SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE VOCAL, BUT THE AREA NEEDED THE CHANGE. THAT'S HOW YOU GET THE RENOVATION, AND THAT'S HOW YOU BUILD AN AREA.

IF YOU WANT CHANGE, YOU HAVE TO DO THINGS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT TOUGHER. THE FOLKS OVER THERE DIDN'T WANT TO SELL US THAT PROPERTY. THAT'S A FACT. THAT THAT HAPPENED. THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT WHEN WE WANT TO MAKE CHANGE TO REDEVELOP THE EAST SIDE OF MCKINNEY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE A LITTLE BIT TOUGHER WHEN TRYING TO GET SOME POSITIONS ON SOME LAND.

AND SO THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENED. AND THAT LAND'S GONNA BENEFIT EVERYBODY, NOT JUST ME, NOT JUST YOU, EVERYBODY, MCKINNEY AND EVERYBODY THAT VISITS MCKINNEY. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.

I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY TO SAY, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. YOU CAN SHAKE YOUR HEAD ALL YOU WANT TO HAMMER LESTER DAY I MET WITH THE WHOLE GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS FROM MCKINLEY HIGH SCHOOL. AND THE ONE THING I ASKED HIM, I HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE STATUE OR WHAT WAS GOING ON MCKINNEY THAT REALLY BOTHERED THEM THE MOST. THIS IS A MIXED GROUP OF KIDS, AND I ASKED HIM WHAT WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITH THAT STATUE, AND THEN I HAD TO BACKTRACK AND GO TELL THEM ABOUT THE STATUE. AND THEN WE WENT BACK AND FORTH ON NOT EVEN UNDERSTANDING OR NOT EVEN KNOWING THAT IT WAS THERE. AND SO I NEVER EVEN GOT AN ANSWER FROM ANY OF THEM. AND THIS WAS A MIXED BACK BIG MIXED BAG OF KIDS, AND I REALLY WANTED TO FEEL WHAT THEY FELT BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT'S BEING TAUGHT IN SCHOOL. NOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW EMOTIONS AIR HI. I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT. BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, SO I NEED TO DO UNDERSTAND IT. SO I'M LOOKING FOR THOSE ANSWERS. BETH AND I'M GONNA FIND HIM. I PROMISE YOU, LISA, I'LL GET HIM TO. YEAH, OKAY, IT'S NOT. IT'S THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION PART. THIS IS WE HAVE THAT PART EARLIER. SO WE WOULD COME BACK TO OUR POLICE AND FIRE FROM EARLIER ON WHAT OUR FIRE DID.

WHAT ARE FIRE HAS DONE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CELEBRATE. GETTING THE VACCINE OUT TO THE FOLKS THAT NEED TO GET IT. OK, I'LL JUST STOP TALKING. YOU CAN. YOU CAN COME UP HERE IF YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME IF YOU HAVE HAVE TO TIME. NO NO KILL. NO NO, COME ON. NO, NO ORDER. ACCOUNT THANK YOU. I'M NOT GONNA CUSS, SIR. I PROMISE. I'M NOW I'M GONNA I'M GONNA HACKETT'S SO IT'S NOT THE TIME HE ASKED ME TO COME UP. WELL, I THINK HE WAS BEING YOU WANT TO BE WAS IN, WE'RE SARCASTIC BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T STOP TALKING. YOU ASKED ME TO COME UP. I WASN'T THE ONE TALKING TO A JUST MAN. YOU ASKED ME TO SPEAK UP. SPEAK TO KILL. LET ME LET ME I'M REALLY RESPECTFULLY ASK, YOU KNOW I'LL RESPECT YOU, SIR, I DON'T MEAN JUST ASKED ME TO SPEAK, BUT HE AND ALL THE ADDRESSES, SO I'M PRESIDING OVER THIS MEETING.

YOU CAN'T COME UP HERE. THE COUNT AND ADDRESSED THE EAST SIDE AND THE MANNER THAT YOU DO. YOU THOUGHT THAT WELL WAS THE REASON WHY THOSE PEOPLE WERE OUT TO KILL YOU PUT ME IN A HORRIBLE POSITION. BUT WE STILL HERE. THE COW WHEN YOU POKE US. WILL REACT, ALL RIGHT? ACCOUNT THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I WOULDN'T SAY THAT. LISTEN, I UNDERSTAND PASSIONS ARE HIGH. I UNDERSTAND. PASSIONS ARE HIGH. AND YOU KNOW, I'LL GO OUT OF TURN. USUALLY I WOULD SPEAK AT THE END. I WILL SPEAK NOW. GET PASSIONS OR HIGH. THEY'RE HIGH AND BETH, YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU SAID THERE'S SOMETHING YOU KNOW THERE'S DEEPER. ISSUES. AND THERE. ARE THERE DEEPER ISSUES.

WE HAVE DEEP ISSUES I HAD WAY TODAY. HEARD A GENTLEMAN GET UP AND SPEAK A MAN OF GOD PROCLAIMED TO BE. THEN SAID THINGS THAT I CAN'T IMAGINE SAYING. IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM.

NEVER MIND CLAIMING TO BE A MAN OF GOD. BUT ALSO IN THAT IN HIS REMARKS, HE USED THE WORD THEN.

USE THE WORD THEM SEVERAL TIMES. AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW DISGUSTED. WAS BECAUSE WHEN I HEARD HIM SAY THE WORD THEN TO ME. I'M LOOKING AT IT AT MY NEW FRIEND CHRIS. WHO I GUESS IS ONE OF THEM. I SEE BETH WHO I ADMIRE AND RESPECT DEARLY. AND EVERYONE. I DON'T EVEN I DON'T NEED TO KNOW YOU TO RESPECT YOU AND NOT IN MCKALE T O REFER TO WITH THEM. SO IS THERE DEEPER PROBLEM? THEY'RE THE HOELSCHER IS A DEEPER PROBLEM, AND IT'S IN THIS. IT'S THIS. THIS WORLD.

WE LIVE IN THE COUNTRY WE LIVE IN. AND SADLY, IT'S BECOME THE CITY AND GREAT PARTS WE LIVE IN. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ANY ALL OF US UP HERE, COUNCILMAN FRASER. SAID THAT THERE TREMENDOUS PRESSURE. THAT REALLY IS THE SAME TIME. YES, WE'RE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND WE HAVE TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS. BUT MAN, IT WOULD SURE BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY VERSUS THE RIDICULOUS NONSENSE, THE POLITICAL STUFF. THIS. THIS HAS TURNED INTO A POLITICAL DECISION. REALLY? IT'S IF YOU VOTE TO REMOVE THE STATUE. YOU'RE A DEMOCRAT OR LIBERAL. IF YOU KEEP THE STATUE YOUR

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REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVE THE HELL WAS THAT ABOUT REALLY? DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH POLITICS. WHETHER EITHER SIDE OF THAT YOU'RE ON. IT'S GOT NOTHING TO WITH POLITICS. IT SHOULDN'T BUT IT DOES. AND OUR COMMUNITY MAKES DAMP SHIRT THAT EVERYBODY UP HERE KNOWS THAT IT IS AND I, FOR ONE HAVE BEEN FIND IT. SAD FIRST OF ALL, DISGUSTING SECOND BALL. BUT THE DEEPER ISSUE IS THAT YOU USED TO COME IN HERE AND TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW. THAT THEM? THAT NOT GONNA MOVE THIS NATURAL BECAUSE OF STATUE BECAUSE OF THEM. THAT'S JUST I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO DIGEST THAT OTHER THAN GO HOME AND THROW UP. THIS IS A DECISION ABOUT A STATUE AND I GET THERE'S PASSION, BOTH SIDES AND THE PASSION SHOULD BE AS SOME THAT WE HEARD. SOME DO TRULY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS OUR HISTORY AND OUR HISTORY SHOULDN'T BE MOVED OR KNOCK DOWN OR TORN APART. SOME BELIEVE THAT IT'S NOT HISTORIES, MAN'S HONOR HISTORY.

HE'S A MAN IN OUR HISTORY. GET SHOULD BE MOVED. SOME BELIEVE IT SHOULD STAY AND BE CONTEXTUALIZED. A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE HONEST. AND SINCE YOUR FEELINGS JUST ALONG THOSE LINES. THEN THERE'S A BUNCH OF IDIOTS THAT MAKE IT SOMETHING ELSE. AND THAT'S JUST A SAD STATE. THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH, AND WE WILL DEAL WITH IT. AND MY HOPE.

WE TALKED ABOUT NOT BEING READY. I HOPE THAT THE COMMUNITY. GETS MORE READY TO DEAL WITH THIS. IN THE IN THE SPIRIT IN THE LIGHT THAT WE SHOULD DEAL WITH IT. NOT POLITICALLY. NOT NOT. NOT DISRESPECTFULLY. IT'S NOT US VERSUS THEM. HOW THE HELL DID TO BECOME US VERSUS THEM? SO YOU KNOW, I'LL STOP IT THAT. THERE IS A DEEPER PROBLEM AND IT'S IN OUR COMMUNITY IS GETTING WORSE AND WORSE. AND IT'S A SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS. SO THE SUBJECT WILL COME BACK. AND I WILL BEG PEOPLE DO NOT COME IN HERE AND USE TERMS LIKE US AND THEM. JUST TALK BASED ON THE FACTS AND. AND SINCERE AND HONEST. OPINIONS BASED ON WHAT THAT SET YOU REPRESENTS TO THEM OR NOT THEM, BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT A GROUP OF PEOPLE. WERE PITTED AGAINST. I'M GONNA SAY SOMETHING, PLEASE, OKAY. WELL THAT CHARLIE BACK CLEAN UP.

WAIT. HE DOESN'T THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE GREAT. TONIGHT WILL BE GREAT EVERYTHING BECAUSE HE HAS A POSITIVE MESSAGE. THAT'S RIGHT THERE, AND I DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE WHAT COUNSELING, FRANKLIN SAID. WE I'M JUST SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU ARE FIRING OUR POLICE AND JUST HOW THEY HANDLE THEMSELVES AND MOST EVERY SITUATION. I EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO WHAT THEY DO AND WHO THEY ARE. GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP SAFE. THAT'S ALL I HAD. IT'S FAMILIAR. GLAD I GET TO GO FROM CHARLIE. YES I LEAST LEAST ONCE FOR ONE TIME. THIS MAKES TWICE SO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT'S DUE. SO, UH, MIRROR. I TALKED ABOUT IT JUST THE PASSING OF JOHN GAY, UM NO. WHEN I RAN FOR COUNCIL JOHN AND JUDY GAY. YOU SO MUCH. THEY ENCOURAGE SO MUCH THEY UM DIDN'T HAVE TAKE THE TIME FOR ME. MULTIPLE TIMES THEY TOOK THE TIME TO CHAT. SEE JUDY ON YOU KNOW ABOUT IN MCKINNEY TALKING ABOUT HOW JOHN'S DOING WENT OVER TO THE CHATEAU, AT LEAST A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND THEY WERE KIND ENOUGH TO SIT DOWN AND, YOU KNOW, SPEND A HALF HOUR TO TIME. ESTHER GAY'S HEALTH AS WE KNOW IT WAS, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY NOT NOT THE BEST, AND I JUST. AFTER EVERYTHING HE'S BEEN THROUGH.

HAVE THE STUPID PANDEMIC TAKE HIS LIFE IS JUST. KNOW LIFE'S NOT FAIR, BUT GOSH, THIS WAS THIS WAS. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ONES THAT JUST LIFE IS JUST ABSOLUTELY NOT FAIR. SO ANYWAY, JUST PUBLICLY A SWELLS. PRIVATELY YOU HAVE JUDY AND THE REST OF FAMILY PRAYERS FOR YOU GUYS. SORRY FOR JOHN'S PASSING, ESPECIALLY THE WAY IT HAPPENED. I MEAN, I KNOW WE ALL PASSED.

THAT ATT'S SOME POINT, BUT I'M SAD AND IT WAS THIS CASE SO PRAYERS FOR DUTY IN THE REST OF HER FAMILY. THE REST OF MY COMMENTS. I'LL PROBABLY SAFER NEXT TIME OUR PASTOR 10, COTTONWOOD CREEK. THEME. OF HIS SERMON LAST WEEK WAS BE KIND. AND, UH, NO, I DON'T MIND TALKING ABOUT A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE WHO WE GOT TOGETHER FOR A BITE TO EAT THE OTHER DAY.

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SHANNON WHITE AND YOU TALK A LOT ABOUT FOLKS WHO HEAD UP NON PROFITS AND THE GREAT WORK THEY DO IN CERTAINLY SHANNON'S LEADERSHIP OF GRACE TO CHANGE IS HUGE, BUT I FOUND IT JUST REINFORCING AND NOT IRONIC, BUT I THINK COMFORTING. GOT TOGETHER AND TWO DAYS OR THREE DAYS AFTER THAT SERMON. WHAT WAS THE HAT THAT SHE WAS WEARING? ALSO I WAS BE KIND. SO I'M GONNA HAVE AH, I'LL HAVE SOME MORE EXTENDED COMMENTS NEXT WEEK, BUT I WAS LEAVING WITH LET'S BE KIND AND UM. IF ANYTHING HAS POINTED OUT, ARE. LIMITED TIME ON THIS EARTH.

CERTAINLY MR GATES PASSING IS MY FATHER IN LAW LIVES WITH US. HE'S A WORLD WAR. TWO BETTER ARMY. AND HE'S 96 YEARS OLD. AND YOU KNOW, WE KNOW HOW MUCH. YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MORE TIME WILL HAVE OF THEM, BUT TO HEAR THE STORIES THAT HE TELLS AND YOU KNOW DIFFERENT PEOPLE AGE DIFFERENTLY. THERE WAS. THIS MAYBE THERE WAS A MIMI. I SAW THE OTHER DAY AND IT SAID THAT.

SAID. I READ STORIES. I DRINK WHISKEY AND I KNOW THINGS. WAS ONE OF THE GREATEST MEANS I'VE EVER SEEN, BECAUSE THAT IS MY FATHER IN LAW. HE REMEMBERS THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN 1944 BETTER THAN I REMEMBER WHAT I HAD FOR BREAKFAST TWO DAYS AGO. AND SO JUST BE KIND. WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER WE HAVE TO EITHER BE IN EACH OTHER'S LIVES OR TO BE LIVING. AND SO THAT'S WHY LYNN WITH TONIGHT. THANKS, SAMEER. PHILLIPS. MR GRAHAM'S A CHANCE FOR YOU. YEAH LET'S DO THAT. MR GRAHAM'S BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS YOU JUST BRING WET TOWEL. YOU WELL, SORRY. THIS THIS WET TOWEL. PARDON ME. THIS WET TOWEL WILL HAVE TO DO WITH SOME SURVEYS. ACTUALLY, THAT'S OR TO SERVICE AND WANT A REFERENCE TONIGHT. FIRST IS THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO YOUR INPUT PUBLIX AND PUT ON THE NEW MUNICIPAL COMMUNITY COMPLEX COMING TO THE EAST SIDE OF MCKINNEY. COMPLEX TO INCLUDE NEW CITY HALL, ALONG WITH OTHER MUNICIPAL USES PLAZAS AND OTHER OPEN SPACES. GENERALLY ALONG THE AREA NORTH OF THE NORTH SIDE OF VIRGINIA STREET, SOUTH OF LAMAR, WEST OF THROUGHT BORN IN EAST OF THE RAILROAD. YOU CAN PROVIDE YOUR INPUT BY VISITING MCKINNEY, TEXAS DOT ORG'S FORWARD SLASH SURVEY. THE OTHER SURVEY, SO THAT IS A VERY GEOGRAPHIC SPECIFICS SURVEY ON A VERY SPECIFIC PROJECT. WE ALSO DO A SURVEY EVERY TWO YEARS DONE BY THE NATIONAL RESEARCH CENTER OUT OF BOULDER, COLORADO, AND THEY REALLY ARE CONSIDERED THE GOLD STANDARD OF MUNICIPAL COMMUNITY WIDE SURVEYS. THIS YEAR. 2021 IS THAT ONE OF OUR BIANNUAL YEARS FOR OUR SURVEY, AND THAT SURVEY IS HITTING THE STREET. NOW WE'LL DO. IT'S A SCIENTIFIC SURVEY. THAT MEANS THERE IS NO WE CONTROL FOR SELF SELECTION BIAS. IT'S A PLUS OR MINUS MARGIN OF ERROR. IT IS A WRITTEN SURVEY. SO IF YOU RECEIVE A SURVEY OR IF YOU KNOW OF ANYBODY RECEIVES ONE OF THESE SURVEYS, WE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO COMPLETE IT. IT GIVES GREAT FEEDBACK TO THE COMMUNITY ON A WHOLE. HOST OF SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE FROM SOLID WAYS TO ST MANAGEMENT. TO SAFETY AND PARKS AND REC, ETCETERA. THAT FEEDBACK ALLOWS US TO COMPARE OURSELVES TO SIMILARLY SITUATED COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY. THOUSANDS OF COMMUNITIES WHO PARTICIPATED SIMILAR SURVEYS. AND IT'S GREAT FEEDBACK FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AS POLICYMAKERS. IT'S GREAT FEEDBACK FOR STAFF TO KNOW WHAT THE PUBLIC IS THINKING ON THESE MATTERS SO AGAIN, WE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO. OR IF YOU KNOW IF SOMEBODY WHO GOT THE SURVEY, PLEASE ENCOURAGE THEM TO FILL IT OUT AND NOT THROW IT AWAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. DADDY CLEAN UP, MR PHILLIPS. WELL, I FILLED OUT ONE OF THOSE SURVEYS AND I ASK THAT I BE KEPT IN TOUCH ON HOW THINGS TURN OUT. SO THERE'S YOUNG LADY 14 YEARS OF AGE LIVES HERE AND MCKINNEY. HER NAME IS AVERY'S WAG. HOPE I PRONOUNCED THAT CORRECTLY IT Z W G. SHE WON THE ANNIKA INVITATIONAL GOLF TOURNAMENT IN FLORIDA IS PART OF THE JUNIOR GOLF AMERICA ASSOCIATION. SHE ATTENDS A SCHOOL DOWN IN PLANO. IT'S SPRING CREEK ACADEMY FOR ATHLETES WHO TRAVEL QUITE A BIT. ON SHE IS TAKING THE WORLD BY STORM. WHEN ASKED, DID SHE GET TO ME ON A CONE? SHE SAID.

I MET HER SEVERAL TIMES S A TREMENDOUS LITTLE GOLFER WHO CALLS MCKINNEY HOME. SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MISSED IT, 2003, 14 AND 15 WHILE RONALD JONES WAS RUNNING FOR THE MCKINNEY NORTH. UM HIGH SCHOOL, HE WILL BE PLAYING THIS WEEKEND ON IN THE SUPER BOWL WITH THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS AND HE IS NUMBER 27. IF YOU MISSED HIM IN HIGH SCHOOL WHEN HE WAS PLAYING FOR ALL THE MARBLES, JUST THE PRIDE, YOU'LL GET A GOOD CHANCE TO SEE A YOUNG MAN WHO MEANS A LOT TO MCKINNEY. AND IT'S NOT JUST IN HIS ATHLETIC SKILLS. IT'S THAT

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HE STILL COMES BACK TO MCKINNEY AND PUTS ON FOOTBALL CAMPS FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE DISADVANTAGED, AND HE'S A GREAT EXAMPLE TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN MCKINNEY. HE'S MORE THAN JUST AN ATHLETE, SO UM YOU'VE GOT A CHANCE SEEM THIS WEEKEND. JOHN GUY, UH, HE AFFECTED EACH AND ALL OF OUR LIVES WHO SIT UP HERE AND WHO LIVE IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS, WHETHER YOU KNOW IT OR NOT. HEY WAS INSTRUMENTAL HE WAS ON THIS COUNCIL. HE SERVED AS MAYOR. HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THE FORMING OF THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER BOARD THAT MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE WATER TO DRINK FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. I WAS FORTUNATE TO KNOW JOHN IN A NUMBER OF CAPACITIES BECAUSE I CAME HERE AS A YOUNG ATTORNEY IN 1994 AND JOHN WAS THE HEAD OF GAY MCCALL ISAACS. WHICH AT THE TIME WAS ONE OF THE LARGEST LAW FIRMS, AND COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS. AND ALTHOUGH I WAS YOUNG, NOBODY, HIS DOOR WAS ALWAYS OPEN TO ME ON. HE ALWAYS HAD WISDOM TO SHARE WITH ME AND ADVICE AND HE NEVER MINDED DOING THAT. AND THEN I GOT TONTO. 10 CHURCH WITH JOHN FOR YEARS AND YEARS, AND HE WAS INCREDIBLY FAITHFUL TO THIS CHURCH FAITHFUL TO HIS WIFE. FAITHFUL TO HIS COMMUNITY ON AUGUST 2ND, 2000 AND 19, THE CORNERS CLUB CELEBRATED JOHN FOR 54 YEARS OF SERVICE TO HIS COMMUNITY AND THE MAYOR. WE HAD A PROCLAMATION AT THAT TIME AND THE PROCLAMATION WENT THROUGH ALL OF HIS GREATEST ACCOMPLISHMENTS, BUT I SAT THERE AND WATCHED JOHN SITTING AT A TABLE WITH A SMILE ON HIS FACE, BECAUSE THE THING HE WAS MOST PROUD OF ON THAT DAY WAS NOT THE PROCLAMATION OR THE RECOGNITION. THAT WAS HIS FAMILY SITTING AT THE TABLE WITH HIM WHILE HE WAS HONORED.

IS TRULY TRULY A GREAT LEADER OF MCKINNEY, AND IT IS A TREMENDOUS LOSS AND I HAVE BEEN SO TREMENDOUSLY BLESSED TO HAVE KNOWN THE GAY FAMILY. AZIZ WELL AS I HAVE. UH AND THERE IS ONE OTHER COLLIN COUNTY HERO LESSER KNOWN THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HONOR SOMEWHAT THIS EVENING GREW UP IN THE DEPRESSION. BORN IN THE WARDEN COMMUNITY, WHICH WAS NORTH OF MCKINNEY. 1941 BREAD JOINED THE ARMY AIR CORPS BEFORE WE HAD AN AIR FORCE AND 42. HE WAS FLYING B 17 ACROSS THE WORLD AND BOMBING. GERMANY S O THAT YOU GUYS COULD SPEAK. KEEP SPEAKING ENGLISH. IT FLEW 12 MISSIONS. TWO OF THEM WERE UNSUCCESSFUL. THE FIRST ONE HE MADE IT BACK WITH HELP WITH FRENCH UNDERGROUND SECOND TIME HE WAS CAPTURED, SPENT THE REST OF THE WAR IN A GERMAN PRISON CAMP. AFTER THE WAR. IT CAME BACK, FLEW ONE MISSION IN. KOREA AND WHEN I ASKED HIM WHY ONLY HAD TO SERVE ONE, HE SAID. I WAS JUST TEACHING THE KIDS HOW TO DO IT. AFTER THAT IT CONTINUED TO FLY FOR THE AIR FORCE AND COMPLETED 20 YEARS. MOST OF TIME HE WAS FLYING NUCLEAR WARHEADS AROUND THE WORLD, SO WE WOULD ALWAYS HAVE ONE IN CASE THERE WAS A STRIKE ON THE GROUND. WE HAD HIM IN THE AIR. HE HAD THREE CHILDREN AT THE TIME THAT HE RETIRED, AND HE RETIRED IN 1961 TO WATCH HIS LAST SON GROW UP. AFTER THAT, HE RETURNED TO COLLEGE AND BECAME MY EIGHTH GRADE FIRST PERIOD TEACHER. YOU TAUGHT ME CIVICS AND GOVERNMENT. HEY DIDN'T LIVE TO SEE HIS 100TH BIRTHDAY, BUT HE WOULD BE CELEBRATING THAT THIS MONTH, AND I THINK AMERICANS LIKE HIM OR LONG FOR GOTTEN LIKE SCOTT'S DADDY AND THE GENTLEMAN THAT COUNCILMAN ROGERS SPOKE OF, AND SO I WOULD LIKE FOR EACH OF YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE OF MY DAD'S GENERATION AS HE CELEBRATES HIS 1/100 BIRTHDAY NEXT WEEKEND, HE IS NO LONGER WITH US. BUT I DO WANT HIM TO BE REMEMBERED BECAUSE HE WAS A TRUE AMERICAN.

THANK YOU. NO. RIGHT NOW, CHARLIE, I JUST WANT SAY IT MY FATHER BIRTHDAY WAS YESTERDAY HE WOULD BE 106 2 YESTERDAY. AND BUT HE IS NOT WITH THIS EITHER. I DIDN'T MENTION BEFORE HUGS CAFE IF YOU GUYS HAVEN'T SEEN THE VIDEO, WE DID THAT MUSIC VIDEO WITH HUGS CAFE IN THE ENTIRE STAFF IS IN IT. AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT HUGS, CAFE YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT HUGS CAFE. IT'S NOT JUST A CAFE. IT IS A TREMENDOUSLY WONDERFUL ENVIRONMENT AND THE PEOPLE THERE WORK THERE. THEY'RE VERY, VERY SPECIAL, AND THERE'S A VIDEO THAT THEY'RE ALL IN, AND I THINK YOU WOULD REALLY ENJOY IT. IT'S A FEEL GOOD. VIDEO WITH THIS, THIS WHOLE CREW IN IT. HUGS CAFE. YOU FIND HIM ON FACEBOOK? WITH THAT MOTION TO ADJOURN. WE'RE ADJOURNED. I CAN'T TAKE IT ON FAVOR, ALL RIGHT?

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