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MCKINNEY'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. TUESDAY FEBRUARY 9TH 2021 THE COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU SEE SEATED BEFORE YOU I'VE BEEN APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THAT SAME CITY COUNCIL. BANANA WILL ADVISE THE AUDIENCE. IF ON ADAM GOES ON TO CITY COUNCIL. OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT STOPPED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IF YOU ARE HERE AND ARE GOING TO SPEAK. BEFORE YOU COME TO THE PODIUM.

THERE IS A CARD. ON THE TABLE OUTSIDE OF THE ROOM. IF YOU WILL FEEL THAT CARD OUT WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS THE ITEM WAS SPEAKING ON AND IF YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR POSITION ON AN ITEM STATE THAT AS WELL WHEN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO STATE.

YOUR CASE SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR CONCERNS. YOU HAVE 30. SECONDS LEFT, YOU'LL SEE A YELLOW LINE. AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE THREE MINUTES IS UP. YOU'LL HEAR A BUZZER ALLOWED TIMER THAT INDICATES IT. TIME FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO PARTICIPATE. WE ARE GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE.

IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU AS CITIZENS. ARE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT THAT WE TREAT EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT AND FOCUS ON THE ISSUES AND BE CONCISE AND OUR COMMENTS.

WE DO HAVE A FOUR ROOM. THIS WAS WHAT WE CALL A MODIFIED 2021 4 ROOM. MR BRITAIN IN YEARS PAST, BUT AGAIN THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. FIRST ITEM. THAT WE WILL ADDRESS, IS IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM. THAT DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED. THAT WOULD BE THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING OR ONE OF THE TWO PLANTS BEING CONSIDERED TONIGHT. SO IF YOU WERE HERE FOR THAT REASON, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.

[CONSENT ITEMS]

RIGHT. SEEING THEM WILL MOVE ON AND. CONSIDER THE CONSIDER JENNA, WHICH IS ITEM TO ONE DAY 0129 THE MINUTES OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING. ADMISSION REGULAR MEETING OF JANUARY 26 2021 MEMBERS. QUESTIONS COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES MOTIONS. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED. I HAVE EMOTIONAL MR DOPE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES I PRESENTED AS PRESENTED TAKEN BY MR MCCOLLISTER. ANY DISCUSSION, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. YEAH, AND I GOT LOST. VOTE I DON'T HAVE THE I'M NOT. FUNCTIONING CORRECTLY. MOTION CARRIES A MINUTES HAVE BEEN PASSED ON X ITEM WILL BE UM TAKE TWO PLANTS. SPLIT WOULD BE TO ONE

[Consider/Discuss/Act on a Conveyance Plat for Lots 1R3 and 13, Block B of the Wilson Creek Crossing Addition, Located Approximately 200 Feet West of Lake Forest Drive and Approximately 275 Feet South of U.S. Highway 380 (University Drive)]

DAY'S 000 CVP CONVEY. IT'S QUIET FOR LOTS ONE ARE THREE 13 BLOCK B OF THE WILSON CREEK CROSSING EDITION. THIS IS 200 FT WEST OF LAKE FOREST DRIVE AND 275 FT. SOUTH OF US HIGHWAY 3 80, MR MOSS. EVENING COMMISSIONERS. THIS PLATT IS FOR PART OF THE EXISTING KRUGER SITE THERE WISHING TO PORTION OFF SUBDIVIDE WITH THE CONVEYANCE, PLATT. FOR A POSSIBLE PAD SITE DEVELOPMENT. UM, I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. ACTION TO MR MOSS. MR HECKLER'S NOT HERE, SO WE NEED SOMEONE TO TAKE THAT ENGINEERING. ROME WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE THAT? PERSON TONIGHT. ABSOLUTELY BUT I HAVE NO QUESTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR MOSS AS THEIR EMOTION. MEMBER ZONE. THE PROVEN THE PLAQUE. MOVE. WE PROVE THE PLANT WITH CONDITIONS NOTED IN STAFFORD, FOR MOTION BY MR MANN ZAIN APPROVED THE PLAN. THE CONDITIONS CONTAINING THE STAR FOR PORT SECOND BY MR WOODRUFF. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HE'S CAST A VOTE.

HERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION CARRIES THE PLAN HAS BEEN APPROVED. THAT IS AN ITEM THAT STOPS OF PLANNING AND ZONING. NEXT ITEM IS ADAM TO ONE DESK, ZERO P F. PRELIMINARY

[Consider/Discuss/Act on a Preliminary-Final Plat for the North Creek Phases 1 and 2 Addition, Located on the Southeast Corner of County Road 123 and North Custer Road]

FOUND A PLANT FOR THE NORTH CREEK PHASES ONE INTO EDITION. THIS IS AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF COUNTY ROAD 1 23 AND NORTH CUSTER ROAD. STAND YOU YOU ARE. LEAVING COMMISSIONERS FOR THE RECORD VIDEO. MATTHEW IS KIND OF TOO WITH THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, RIGHT. THIS PLAN IS FOR A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION, APPROXIMATELY 42 ACRES AND THEY'RE PROPOSING 105 BLOCKS WITH SEVEN COMMON AREAS. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS. OKAY,

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DANIEL. OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND MEMBERS WHO WOULD INTEND EMOTION. MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS ITEM AS PER. SHIN'S MOTION I MISS KIRK ADULT APPROVED THE AUTUMN. CONTAINED IN THE STAFF REPORT. HIS CONDITION IN THE STAFF REPORT, SECOND BY. DRAMANE ZAIN QUICKLY UNDER THE HELL THEY'RE IN A DISCUSSION. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. THE MOTION CARRIES THE PLANT HAS BEEN IMPROVED. NOW WE'LL MOVE INTO THOSE ITEMS THAT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED. SOME OF THESE WILL BE TABLE SO WE'LL MOVE FAIRLY QUICKLY. BUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT. WE WILL HEAR YOU'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK.

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “RS-60” - Single Family Residence District to “C2” - Local Commercial District, Located at 800 South Chestnut Street. (WITHDRAWN BY APPLICANT)]

FIRST ITEM IS 20-0 Z. THIS IS A PUBLIC CAN REQUEST TO REZONE A SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM OUR HAS 60. SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO SEE TWO LOCAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. THIS IS 800 SOUTH CHESTNUT STREET. AND THIS HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT, MR MOSS. GOOD EVENING STAFF DOES REQUEST THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING BE CLOSED AND THE ITEM BE TABLED INDEFINITELY AS THE APPLICANT HAS WITHDRAWN THE REQUEST. OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS PROPOSED TO REZONE AT 800 CHESTNUT, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO BUT PLEASE KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT HAS WITHDRAWN THE REQUEST. ANYONE HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON THIS PROPOSED REASON. IF WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE, THE OTTOMAN, DEFINITELY OCEANO, MR. MY INSIDE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE OVER THE OTTOMAN, DEFINITELY.

SECOND MOMENTS TO WHAT LEAGUE? IN THE DISCUSSION. HE'S CAST YOUR VOTES. SHE CARRIES THE AUTUMN HAS BEEN TABLED INDEFINITELY. THE NEXT ITEM IS 200 DEATH 0006. ZERO SPN PUBLIC

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Variance to a Site Plan for a Car Wash (Sparky’s Express Wash), Located Approximately 500 Feet East of State Highway 5 (McDonald Street) and on the North Side of U.S. Highway 380 (University Drive) (REQUEST TO BE TABLED)]

HEARING. TO CONSIDER A VARIANCE TO ASSIGN PLAN FOR CAR WASHES HIS SPARKY'S EXPRESS WASH. AT STATE HOW WE FIVE AND U. S. HIGHWAY 3 80. IT'S GIVEN. RIGHT GOOD EVENING STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING BE CLOSED IN THE ITEM TABLED INDEFINITELY, STAFF WAS ABLE TO WORK WITH THE APPLE CANTOR VARIANCE REQUEST IS NO LONGER NECESSARY BY THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION. I MEAN, I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. ONE MORE TIME. WHY WAS YOU KNOW? I'M BEING TERRIBLE AND. THE ITEMS BEING TABLE DEFINITELY A VARIANCE REQUEST WAS BRING BACK FORWARD TO YOU THAT STAFF WAS ABLE TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO NO LONGER REQUIRE THAT VARIANCE. OKAY SO THE VARIANCE REQUESTED IS NO LONGER REQUESTED. SO IT'S A STAFF APPROVAL ONLY. YES. GOT IT. OKAY? THERE WILL BE A CAR WASH IT THAT INTERSECTION. YES, SIR.

I GOT IT, OKAY? QUESTIONS MEMBERS. I'M LIKE A MOTION. WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HERE. I'M SORRY. YOU GET STARTED. GOOD, VERY GOOD. GAS, NO BRAKES. YEAH. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

IT IS GOING TO BE TABLED. HOLD THAT. IF YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PROPOSED CARWASH. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. I DON'T YOUR SCHOOL WILL KNOW HERE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TELL YOUR TABLE THE ITEM INDEFINITELY.

HMM MISTER DOPE TOO. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TERRIBLY ON, MAN. DEFINITELY SECOND BY MR MOORE COLLEGE OR ANY DISCUSSION. CAST HER VOTE. SHE CARRIES THE AUTUMN HUSBAND TABLE AND DEFINITELY THE NEXT ITEM IS 20 DAY. 0013 AM. BUT CARING REQUEST BY THE CITY OF

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request by the City of McKinney to Amend Chapter 146 (Zoning Regulations) Sections 146-130 (Vehicle Parking), 146-131 (Off-street loading) of the Code of Ordinances (REQUEST TO BE TABLED)]

MCKINNEY TO A MAN CHAPTER 1 46 ZONING REGULATIONS SECTIONS. 1 46 TO 1 31 46-1 30 VEHICLE PARKING. AND OFF STREET LOADING. THIS IS IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, MR BLOCKS. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, AARON BLOCKS AND LONG RANGE PLANNING MANAGER AT THIS TIME STAFF IS REQUESTING TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE THE ITEM TO FEBRUARY 23RD SO THAT STAFF CAN CONTINUE TO WORK ON AN ITEM RELATED TO THOSE AMENDMENTS. THEY WILL COME FORTH AT THAT TIME. GOOD QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ERIN. THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU'VE COME TONIGHT, EVEN LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT CHANGES TO THE.

CHAPTER 1 46, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. RIGHT? THE COMMOTION THAT WE CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO THE FEBRUARY 23RD MEETING. SURE I MISS KIRK IN ALL TO CONTINUE THE CLOTHES

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OF PUBLIC HEARING. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL FEBRUARY, 23RD. OCEAN IS TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TERRIBLY ARGUMENT OVER EVERY 23RD OCEAN MAMA'S KIRK SECOND BY MR WOODRUFF. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION CAST YOUR VOTES.

MOTION CARRIES THE AUTUMN HAS BEEN TABLED UNTIL FEBRUARY. THE 23RD. THE NEXT ITEM IS 20. DEC

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Variance to a Site Plan for a Multi-Family Development (Collin Square), Located on the Southwest Corner of Bloomdale Road and U.S. Highway 75]

00 SP THREE, A PUBLIC HEARING REQUEST. VARIANCE FOR VARIANCE ON SITE PLAN FOR MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT COLIN SQUARE. THIS IS THE SOUTHWEST CORNER BLOOM THEIR ROAD IN US HOW WE 75 MISS GIVEN. GOOD EVENING. GET TO THE SLIDE SHOW HERE FOR YOU. PEOPLE. ALL RIGHT? YEAH. SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT THE SITE PLAN FOR MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT ON A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF US 75 IN BLOOM. DILL. TYPICALLY SITE PLANS CAN BE APPROVED AT THE STAFF LEVEL. HOWEVER THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING DEVIATIONS FROM THE REQUIRED BUILT TWO ZONES ON BILL TWO LINES ON THE ON THE SITE PLAN.

FOR THE BILL TO LINE REQUIREMENT. THE CURRENT ZONING ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY REQUIRES THAT AT LEAST 50% OF THE FACADE SHALL BE 20 FT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE WHEN ADJACENT TO A PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY. ANY DEVIATIONS MORE THAN 10% CAN BE APPROVED BY THE POINTING AND ZONING COMMISSION. COME ALONG, JAMES PITS DRIVE HERE. INJUSTICE STREET HERE. THERE'S AN EXISTING 30 FT. WATER WATER LINE EASEMENT. BECAUSE OF THESE EXISTING EASEMENTS AND THE 100 YEAR FLOOD PLAIN THAT RUNS NORTH SOUTH IN THE PROPERTY. THE 20 FT. BUILT TO LINE IS NOT ACHIEVABLE FOR BUILDINGS 12348 AS I MARKED. FOR THE BUILDING'S OWN REQUIREMENTS. THE CURRENT ZONING ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY REQUIRES THAT ALL FACADE ARTICULATIONS SHOPPER OCCUR WITHIN A BUILDING ZONE BETWEEN 20 AND 50. FT. IF JASON TO PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY. WERE BETWEEN 18 60 FT WHEN ADJACENT TO A FIRE LANE OR MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENT. SIMILAR TO THE WELL TO HIS OWN REQUEST DEVIATIONS MORE THAN 10% CAN BE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A DEVIATION FROM THE BUILDING ZONE FOR BUILDING FOUR. TONTO DUE TO THE 100 YEAR FLOOD, PLAIN AND ROSHAN HAZARD SETBACK. PREVENTING THE PROPERTY FOR BEING ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE BUILT HIS OWN BETWEEN THAT 20 AND 50 FT WITH THE PROPERTY LINE. APPLICANTS ALSO REQUESTING A DEVIATION FROM THE BUILDING ZONE FOR ALL FACADES INTERIOR IN THE PARKING COURTS. THE APPLICANT INTENT IS TO CREATE A MORE URBAN DEVELOPMENT AS ENVISIONED FOR THE PLANE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. GIVEN THESE INTERNAL DRIVES ARE REQUIRED TO BE FIRE LING'S THEN THAT BILL TO ZONE IS THIN, TRIGGERED AND REQUIRED. GIVEN THE SIGHTS, CONSTRAINTS WITH THE FLOODPLAIN, EXISTING EASEMENTS AND THAT AFRICAN IS TRYING TO KEEP WITH THE INTENT OF THE PLANE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THESE DEVIATIONS, AND I'LL STAY IN FOR ANY QUESTIONS. CARRYING ON THE QUESTIONS. THIS IS PART OF THE PD. THAT'S A MIXED USE TYPE PRODUCT WHEN IT WAS INTRODUCED AND 13 OR SOMETHING.

S SO THIS CAN CHANGES AND VARIANCE TO IT. FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT IT STILL MAINTAINS INTEGRITY OF THAT APPROVAL. AND OF THAT PLAN. YES SIR. THERE IS A MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITHIN THE PD AND STAFF FEELS THAT THE INTENT THAT THE APPLICANTS PROVIDING IS STILL TRYING TO KEEP WITH THE URBAN INTENT. WITH THE DEVIATIONS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WITH THE SEC CONSTRAINTS. IS THE ISSUE THAT LOOKING BACK THROUGH THE HISTORY OF SOME OF THESE AND WE LOSE HISTORY. EACH TIME WE HAVE BORED TURNOVER AND COUNSEL TURNOVER STAFF TURNOVER ALONG THE WAY, THIS IS A LIKE PRODUCT TO WHAT WE SAW LAST WEEK AT THE HOSPITAL. ON IT.

FIVE AND 1 21 IN WHICH THEN IT WASN'T WORKING OUT AS A MIXED USE, AND THE COMMERCIAL WAS GETTING DETERIORATED AT THAT TIME, SO BUT WE'RE NOT AT THAT POINT NOW. MY FEAR IS THAT IF WE GIVE AWAY MULTI FAMILY FRONT, WE'RE NEVER GONNA HAVE OUR COMMERCIAL AROUND IT, AND IT'S STILL VIABLY COMMERCIAL, SO WE DON'T RUN INTO HIGHWAY 51 21. WE LIKE WE DID UNDERSTOOD.

ABSOLUTELY. WITHIN THE PLANE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT THE BUILDING'S FRONTING ON TO BOONVILLE AND 75 ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THAT MIXED USE SO THAT WE WILL STILL OBTAIN THAT COMMERCIAL. UM THOSE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ALONG THE CORRIDORS, THIS PROPERTY IN PARTICULAR ON THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT LOOKS LIKE MULTI FAMILY YOUR TOWN HOMES ENVISION FOR THAT THIS PARTICULAR CORNER. THAT'S WHY STOPS COMFORTABLE WITH THESE. THAT LEADS TO TWO QUESTIONS. I'VE GOT S SO LOOKING AT THE

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EXISTING PD EXHIBIT B. IT DOES TALK ABOUT COMMERCIAL NEEDS TO BE OPENED DOWN 75 A LONG BLUE DOWN SO ON THE TOP PART CLEARLY BLOOM DOWN. ARE THOSE GONNA BE? E GUESS IT'S JUST GONNA BE NO RETAIL OR COMMERCIAL. THAT'S GONNA BE ALONG THE NORTHERN EDGE AT ALL. THEN LET ME FLIP BACK OVER HERE. SO WHERE THIS PARTICULAR SITE ON THE PROPERTY IS, IS ACTUALLY WITHIN THIS CORNER AREA RIGHT HERE. SO WE'RE STILL ABLE TO HAVE PROPERTY ALONG BLOOM, DALE AND 75 FOR THAT MIXED USE COMPONENT, SO THIS IS ONLY A SMALL PORTION OF THE OVER LARGE OVERALL TRACKED PERFECT. SO THEN THAT LEADS TO THE SECOND QUESTION. SO ALL THE ADDITIONAL LAND AND IT'S TO THE EAST TO 75 THAT'S NOT BEING DEVELOPED. WHAT IS THAT? THE DISTANCE EAST OF WEST. TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PRESERVING IN A PLAN TO NEW COMMERCIAL USES THERE. LET ME SEE IF I CAN PULL THAT UP FOR YOU IN JUST A SECOND.

OKAY UM, BASED ON THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED ON I APOLOGIZE THAT YOU HAVE THIS THIS EXACT INFORMATION FOR YOU. I DO KNOW IT'S 120 FT, BASED ON THE CALL ON THE SITE, PLAN ME SEE IF I CAN MEASUREMENT.

MEAN? CAITLIN, DO YOU WANT AND I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING ON YOUR YOUR NOTES OR WHAT? NOT IF YOU WANT TO SCROLL TO THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN EXHIBIT. I THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO JUST KIND OF VISUALLY SCALE IT OUT. YEAH. UM SO JUST CALL RIGHT HERE. UM, IS THE 127 FT. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER CALL FOR 126 FT. THAT'S RIGHT HERE. THAT I'M GOING WITH IT AND KIND OF HIGH LEVEL. IT IS THAT THERE IS GOING TO GET 20 FT SETBACK, LANDSCAPE SET BACK ON THE ROAD. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE. 18 FT OF PARKING 24 HOUR FOR DR ISLES BUILDING IN ANOTHER 24 FT DRIVE, I'LL SO TAKING OUT THE BUILDING, YOU'RE ABOUT 86 FT. OF WITH RIGHT THERE. WE'RE HANGING 101 120 FT. WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO BUILD THE BUILDING. AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH ROOM. DOWN HERE ON THE SOUTH END AND PROBABLY IN THE NORTH END. THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM TO REALLY HAVE A COMMERCIAL USE ON THAT PROPERTY.

THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST TRYING TO VERIFY ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTANDABLE. SEE THAT TERRY? ARE YOU ABLE TO PULL UP THE PD, THE ATTACHMENT ON THE PACKET FOR THE ACTUAL CONCEPT PLAN THAT ALLOCATES WHERE THESE DIFFERENT USES AIR SHOW.

AND TO THAT ATTACHMENT FOR WHICH IS THE EXISTING PT 2013. YEAH. AND THEN SQUIRREL T. O SEVEN OF 12, WHICH IS THE ACTUAL CONCEPT PLAN EXHIBIT. YOU WERE NEVER HERE. WHEN ALL THAT CAITLIN'S GONNA FILL IN WHERE I LEAVE ANY BLANKS, BUT THE REQUEST BEFORE US TONIGHT FOR THAT SITE PLAN IS INCLUSIVE OF THE TRACKS THREE AND FOUR. SO THAT

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PRESERVATION OF COMMERCIAL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALONG THE FRONTAGE IS TRACKS FIVE AND SIX, WHICH BASED ON THE CONCEPT PLAN, TRACKED FIVE IS ABOUT 4.5 ACRES AND TRACK SIX IS ABOUT 3.5 ACRES. SO I GUESS THEY'RE WAY UNDERSTAND. THERE MAY BE SOME QUESTION ABOUT AS THEY'RE LEAVING ENOUGH FRONTAGE ALONG THAT 75 CORRIDOR WITH THE WAY THAT THIS ZONING IS IN PLACE OR HOW THE ZONING IS IN PLACE. THEY ARE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE ZONING. SO WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT IS NOT ABOUT SORT OF ENCROACHMENT OF A ZONE INTO AN AREA THAT IT WOULDN'T OTHERWISE BE PERMITTED. THAT MULTI FAMILY IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT WITHIN THIS AREA, BUT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS TO MODIFY THEIR BUILD TWO ZONES AND THEIR BUILD TWO LINES TO ADJUST FOR THE EXISTING EASEMENTS AND FLOOD PLAINS THAT AIR THROUGH THE PROPERTY, MAKING IT SUCH THAT THEY CAN'T PULL THEM UP THIS CLOSE IS THAT. THEY WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE BEEN REQUIRED TO DO BY THE ZONING. SO THAT'S WHERE STAFF IS COMFORTABLE. WE RECOGNIZE IT WHEN YOU'RE OUT IN THE FIELD, YOU HAVE THESE EASEMENTS AND FLOOD PLAINS THAT COME INTO PLAY, AND SOMETIMES WHAT IS PUT ON YOUR ZONING ISN'T ALWAYS ABLE TO BE ACHIEVED. WHICH IS WHY THERE'S THAT VARIOUS PROCESS IN PLACE. BUT WHAT'S BEFORE US TONIGHT IS NOT A CONCERN ABOUT GROWING THAT MULTI FAMILY INTO AREAS WHERE IT WASN'T ALREADY. ENVISIONED AS PART OF THIS ZONING. SO AS A VARIANCE, YOU CAN ADVANCE TO A SITE PLAN BACON. JUST SEGREGATED IN DISTANCE TO QUADRANTS, THEN SO IT GETS THE WRECK YOUR QUESTION AND YOUR COMMENTS SIX AND FIVE.

MAYBE NOT DESIGNING BECAUSE I'M MORE FROM WHAT THAT FAMILY WITH RETAIL OR COMMERCIAL? I SHOULD SAY. IN THE ARTIST COMMERCIAL BY THEMSELVES. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM FOR COMMERCIAL THERE. BE DEVELOPED IF IT'S COMMERCIAL BY ITSELF IN THE FUTURE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN. MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE SITE PLAN VIA THEY'RE ASKING, I COULD BE WRONG AND I HAVE NO IDEA. UNFORTUNATELY NOT UNFORTUNATELY, BUT BECAUSE THEIR SITE PLAN SHORT OF THE BILL TUESDAY ZONES AND THE BUILD TWO LINES, IT CONFORMS TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING SO WELL. THERE MAY BE CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT'S LEFT OVER FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, THEY'VE MET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY'RE ASKED TO ME THAT'S PART OF THEIR ZONING. BUT THEY ARE ASKING FOR VARIANCES. YES. NO, I MEAN. I THINK I HAVE TO RESPECT COMMISSIONER MURDEROUS OUTLOOK ON THE LONG TERM, CONSIDERING HOW MANY MIXED USED THINGS WERE SOLD ON AND THEN THEY DON'T FULLY HAPPEN TO MAKE SURE THEY REMAIN VIABLE AND THAT WE JUST DON'T GET THE MULTI FAMILY COMPONENT AND THEY NEVER GET THE OTHER PART OF. I GUESS THE CHERRY ON THE TOP MORTALITY SO I THINK HE'S LOOKING OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT POTENTIALLY WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE DESIGNS IN THE FUTURE THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE, AND IF ONLY ONE PHASE HAS DONE WHAT WE DO, WE REALLY HAVE REMAINED ABSOLUTELY ABSOLUTELY. OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. ENGLAND THANK YOU. IS THERE AFRICAN HERE TONIGHT? WONDERFUL. JOHN ALLEN'S 14. CAN I PUT IT DOWN OR UP. YOU GUYS TELL ME JOHN ALLEN'S WITH CAPSTAR 14 81, DALLAS ON AND REPRESENT ON THE APPLICANT REPRESENT THE LANDOWNER. SO ANY QUESTIONS? JUST LET ME KNOW. SECTIONS OF THE APP. INSIDE. OKAY? HUH? IS EASY. SO FAR, SO FORTH. YOU KNOW, IN A MINUTE HOW EASY IT WAS. THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ADAM IF ANYONE'S HERE, DENON, IT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PROPOSED VARIANCE TO SITE PLAN. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. ANYONE.

RIGHT? WE CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION MOMENTS TO MAN'S. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND TAKEN BY MR DOE. THESE CAST YOUR VOTES. MOTION CARRIES THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED. ALL RIGHT QUESTIONS. OF THE APPLICANT OR CITY STAFF.

AMONGST OURSELVES. I MEAN, IF IT HOLDS TO THE ORIGINAL PLAN AND EYES STAFF HAS SAID THAT I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT. I THINK JUST THE WAY WE'VE SAW COUPLE GO LATELY WHERE THEY CHANGED AT THE END ON BEN. WE'VE HAD A FEW AREAS AND TRACTS OF LAND WITHIN THE CITY THAT BECOME TOO DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP BECAUSE OF WHAT IS LEFT OVER. THAT SHOULD JUST REMAIN

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ON STAFF MIND AS BOARDS. TURN OVER EVERYTHING ELSE TO LOOK TO SEE IF IT DEVELOPING DEVELOPS AND PHASE WHAT WILL BE ACTUALLY PRACTICAL OR NOT SO. I THINK THAT'S JUST THE CONCERN OF MYSELF AND MAYBE COMMISSIONER WOODRUFF SO. SO I WANT THIS POINT. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM STAFF ONE MORE TIME, SO YOU DON'T HAVE CONCERNS THE SECOND KEY. ISSUE BECAUSE I'M STILL NOT. I THINK THE CONCERN THAT YOU HAVE IS A GOOD ONE. AND I THINK IF WE WERE CONSIDERING A ZONING OR REZONING, IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE CONSIDERING IT'S A DEATH. IN THIS INSTANCE, THE SITE PLAN CONFORMS TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW. AND SO WHAT WE'RE EVALUATING IS THEIR REQUEST FOR THOSE DEVIATIONS TO THE BUILD TWO ZONES AND BUILD TWO LINES FOR HOW CLOSE A BUILDING GETS TO FIRE LANE OR A STREET FRONTAGE. SO OUR EVALUATION IS NOT ABOUT WHAT'S LEFT OVER ON THE TRACK BECAUSE.

WHAT'S PROPOSED MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE USE ALLOCATION FOR THE ZONING. MOVE WE PROVE THIS ITEM PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION. MOTION MAP. MR MAN'S EYE TO PROVE THE ANIMUS FIRST TYPE RECOMMENDATION A SECOND MOM, MR WATLEY, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ONE. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. THE MOTION CARRIES THE VARIOUS HAS BEEN APPROVED IN PLANNING AND ZONING IS THE FINAL STOP. THE NEXT ITEM IS ADAM TO ZERO DEATHS. 0141 Z TWO PUBLIC HEARING

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “RG-25” - General Residence District and “C” - Planned Center District to “PD” - Planned Development District to Allow for Multi-Family Residential Uses and to Modify the Development Standards]

REQUEST. ARIZONA SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM OUR G 25 GENERAL RESIDENTS DISTRICT AND SEE PLAN CENTER DISTRICT TO PD PLAN TO DEVELOPMENTS DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR MULTI FAMILY RESIDENTS WHO USES AND TO MODIFY AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. TO MOSS. ANYTHING KUSHNER'S THE APPLICANT HAS ASKED TO TABLE THIS ITEM AT THE MEETING. TODAY S SO WE'RE ASKING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE INDEFINITELY. AND STAFF WILL RE NOTICE PRIOR TO AN UPCOMING HERE. OKAY? YOUR THREE QUESTIONS OF STAFF. RIGHT? UM. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU'RE HERE DENIED, AND YOU CAME TO ADDRESS THIS. PROPOSED REZONE, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. ANYONE. HE'S COME TO THE FILM. THIS IS ON ADAM TO ZERO Z. YES, MA'AM. NO. OKAY? ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. OKAY, ONLY COMMOTION. WE TABLE THE ITEM AND DEFINITELY WAS A PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY, SO OKAY. HUMAN MISS KIRK IN ALL TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE OVER THE OTTOMAN DEFINITELY SECOND BY MR MAN'S EYE, ANY DISCUSSION HIS CAST YOUR VOTES. ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION CARRIES HE, ADAM HAS BEEN TABLED INDEFINITELY. THE

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District, “AG” - Agricultural District, and “CC” - Corridor Commercial Overlay District to "C2" - Local Commercial District and “CC” - Corridor Commercial Overlay District, Located on the Southeast Corner of U.S. Highway 380 (University Drive) and Meadow Ranch Road]

NEXT ITEM IS TO 1-0 Z. PUBLIC HEARING REQUEST. TO ACT ON A REQUEST TO REZONE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, EGG AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AND CC COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR RELAY. C TWO AND CC COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL QUARTER OVERLAY DISTRICT. THIS IS ONLY SOUTHEAST CORNER OF U. S HIGHWAY 3 80 MENTAL RANCH ROAD, MR MOSS. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS SINCE THE CREATION OF THE PACKET, WE DID RECEIVE FOUR LETTERS IN SUPPORT AND 10 LETTERS AND OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM. I HAVE PASSED THOSE OUT TO Y'ALL BEFORE THE MEETING. S O. THIS SITE IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF MEADOW RANCH AND US 3 80, WHICH IS. JUST OFF OF LAKE FOREST LAKE FOREST IS APPROXIMATELY HERE. THIS SITE DOES HAVE AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL ZONING TO THE WEST.

EXISTING INDUSTRIAL USE PD TO THE EAST. OFFICE USES IN THE ZONING TO THE NORTH. AND TO THE SOUTH. THERE ARE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS CURRENTLY ZONED AG.

BECAUSE THEY LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING AREA. THIS STRUCTURE HERE. IS ON THE

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SUBJECT PROPERTY. THIS OVER HERE WOULD BE EXISTING HOME. ON BEN. THIS IS THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. THEY'RE LOOKING. THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ON METAL RANCH. ON THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO SEE TWO LOCAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. UM THE SITE BEING LOCATED ON A MAJOR REGIONAL HIGHWAY HAS A NEIGHBORING COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL AND OFFICE ZONING IS ALONG THIS 3 80 CORRIDOR. GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO US 3 80 STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST AND I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. COULD YOUR OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS OUR APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT? YES. MR CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF. COMMISSION MARTIN SANCHEZ, 2000 NORTH MCDONALD SUITE 100 HERE, MCKINNEY, TEXAS. MISS RAMEY, CAN WE GO TO THE PRESENTATION THAT I SENT YOU IF THAT'S OKAY, MA'AM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO ON 3 80. WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE GOING THROUGH A TRANSITION RELATIVE TO THE EVOLUTION OF MCKINNEY. UM. CURRENTLY 3 80 IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA SEES OVER 50,000 VEHICLE TRIPS PER DAY. IN THIS SECTION ALONE, IT'S CLOSER TO LIKE 52 53 YOU GET A LITTLE WEST OF LAKE FORCED ABOUT 48,000. AND THEN LIKE FORCE ITSELF IS CARRIED ABOUT 15 TO 20,000. BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT 3 80 AS EVOLVED IT AT ONE POINT WHEN IT WAS I WAIT 24 YEARS AND YEARS AGO WAS A MUCH SMALLER ROAD, BUT THE CHARACTER AND NATURE OF THE THREE AND A QUARTER OR HAS CERTAINLY EVOLVED TO BE A MORE COMMERCIAL CHARACTER. THIS SUBJECT. PROPERTY IS IN THE COMMERCIAL QUARTER COMMERCIAL OVERLAY DISTRICT. AND SO A SUCH, I THINK THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALWAYS RECOGNIZED THAT SOME OF THIS EVOLUTION WILL CONTINUE IN SOMEHOW IN SOME FASHION, AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY. IF I COULD JUST HAVE A POINTER. CAN WE SEE IF I CAN FIGURE THIS OUT? STAY IN IT. OH, MY FINGER. I FORGET THE FINGER. POINTED YES, THAT'S MY POINT. OKAY SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IT SITS RIGHT IN HERE. TO THE IMMEDIATE EAST. AS MR MOSS POINTED OUT, IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO THE IMMEDIATE WEST. HERE IS A VETERINARY CLINIC WITH KIND OF AN OPEN AREA WHERE I BELIEVE THE VETERINARY CLINIC WILL PROBABLY END UP EVOLVING AND GROWING. TO THE IMMEDIATE WEST OF THAT IS PRONTO MUFFLER. AND THEN ONCE YOU GET TO THE WEST OF THAT YOU GET TO THE COMMERCIAL STRIP CENTER, THE GAS STATION. THE MINI WAREHOUSE STORAGE, ETCETERA. SO MY CLIENT. HAS BEEN DILIGENTLY TRYING TO ADDRESS HOW TO BET USE LIES THERE. THIS PROPERTY CURRENTLY ON THIS PROPERTY HERE IN THE NORTH, THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME THAT HE MOVED IN.

YEARS AND YEARS AGO. THERE IS AN EXISTING FENCE IN THIS AREA THAT ULTIMATELY WHEN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY DEVELOPS, WE WOULD HAVE TO SCREEN AND BUFFER AND CREATE A NEW FENCE OR A NEW SCREENING WALL AT THAT POINT AT THAT LOCATION. LEADER. SO AS YOU COULD SEE, WE'VE LABELED WE'VE TAKEN GREAT CARE TO LABEL ALL OF THESE DETAILS ON THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE, SHOWING THE EXISTING LAND USES FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S CONSIDERATION. THE CURRENT FENCE THAT EXISTS IS UP IN THIS AREA HERE. AND ULTIMATELY FOR A SCREENING WALLET WOULD HAVE TO GO INTO THAT LOCATION. AS YOU CAN SEE, IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF THE TWO TRACKS. THEY FACE 3 80 IN THE SIDE TO THE VETERINARIAN CLINIC, THE VETERINARIAN CLINIC. GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THIS POINT HERE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING AT THIS POINT IN THAT THIS POINT HERE, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NORTH OF THAT. HAS DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY JUST KIND OF SOME OF THE DETAILS OF THE APPLICANT AND WHAT HE'S DONE IN THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE DETAILS OF THIS PROPERTY, MR ANDRE HAS BEEN C P A PRACTICING IN THIS AREA SINCE THE LATE EIGHTIES. EMPLOYS 24. PEOPLE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON SALARIES OVER THE YEAR OVER 2000 CLIENTS OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY. A STRONGER DREAD MOVED TO THE SUBJECT

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PROPERTY, IN FACT, A STRONG VERY LIVED IN THIS FACILITY THAT NOW HE LIVES IN THIS IN THIS HOUSE AT THIS POINT IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, IS A SAD THIS. THE LAND USE OF SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY IS CRITICAL TO REALLY RECOGNIZE THAT THE AREA 3 80 IS CHANGING.

I KNOW THIS IS A DIFFICULT CONVERSATION, BUT THE REALITY IS WE DO HAVE A JASON MAN USES THAT ARE NO LONGER COMPATIBLE. FOR THAT THOSE PUT TWO PARTICULAR LOTS TO CONTINUE TO BE SINGLE FAMILY IN NATURE. WITH THAT I WOULD EXPLAIN THIS WELL THAT WHEN LAKE FOREST WAS INSTALLED BY THE CITY OF ME, CANI UP TO 3 80. MR ANDRE DEDICATED QUITE A BIT OF LAND IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION, ALWAYS WORKING WITH THE CITY. THAT INTERSECTION IS WHAT HAS ALLOWED THOSE FOUR CORNERS TO DEVELOP THE KROGER THE BETTER. THAT'S THE BAYLOR HOSPITAL, ETCETERA. THIS IS JUST IN ORDER. NORMAL PART OF HOW THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE DEVELOPMENT INVOLVES IN A COMMUNITY. GET WE RECOGNIZE THAT THIS MAY BE A CHALLENGE. I WOULD TELL YOU THAT THAT EVEN IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IF YOU SEE THIS IS THE MEDICAL DISTRICT AND THE STAR ILLUSTRATES, WHERE EXACTLY THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS. IT DOES FALL IN A NON RESIDENTIAL CORRIDOR. NOW GIVEN THOSE DETAILS. WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSS ISSUES OF HOW TO MITIGATE THOSE CONCERNS AT THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT, AND WE'RE NOT THERE YET. THIS POINT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO JUST CLEAN UP THE SOUNDING SO THEY'RE MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE HIGHWAY.

BUT THE JASON LAND USES ETCETERA. SO WITH THAT I WOULD STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND I WOULD ASK THE COMMISSION FOR FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM. MR MAN'S EYE. YOU'RE GOING TO RECRUIT YOURSELF. YES, SIR. PERFECT. THANK YOU. SECTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. YOU WON WILL HAVE QUESTIONS. OKAY? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA TAKE A SEAT HERE JUST TO BE AT YOUR READY. IF YOU WILL TAKE NOTES IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS FROM THOSE THAT HAVE REGISTERED GREAT WE'LL HAVE YOU BACK UP AND ALSO THE CITY STAFF TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY UM, IF YOU HAVE FILLED OUT A YELLOW CARD, I HAVE IT HERE. SOME OF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN SOME. DO NOT READ YOUR NAME, AND IF YOU HAVE A POSITION AND IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, THEN WE'LL PROCEED THAT WAY. THE PODIUM IF YOU HAVE SENT IN A LETTER THROUGH THE CITY'S PORTAL. YOUR LETTER WILL BE SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL'S PART OF OUR MINUTES. IT WILL BE INCLUDED. IN THAT PACKET. I WILL NOT READ THE LETTERS. BUT PLEASE KNOW THAT IT WILL BE SUBMITTED WITH OUR INFORMATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL. OKAY WITH THAT. I'LL READ THE NAMES AND THEN, UM, YOUR POSITION IF I MISPRONOUNCED YOUR NAME, I APOLOGIZE. FIRST NAME IS MIKE GORMAN, WHICH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. MM HMM. THAT MR CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF EASY MONEY MIKE KORMAN. RESIDE IN 1910 METAL RANCH ROAD. WHICH IS THE FOURTH PIECE OF PROPERTY DOWN FROM THE SUBJECT, BECAUSE THIRD ACTUALLY FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES NEXT TO MR ANDRES.

ALSO THE PRESIDENT AND MAY BECAUSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OF EVERY BRANCH OF STATES AND WE'VE BEEN THE OPPOSED THIS. REZONING OF THAT PARTICULAR PRODUCT FOR THE LOT 19, A MINUTE BRANCH OF STATE FROM AGRICULTURE TO COMMERCIAL. REASON BEING IS, YOU KNOW MCKINNEY IS MODELS UNIQUE NATURE AND THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY OF MCCAIN. THERE'S ONLY ONE OF REALLY LIKE IT IN THE SAME A KENNY. ACTUALLY THIS WAS THE CRAIG FAMILY COMPOUND ORIGINALLY FOR CRAIG'S DAVID CRAIG'S FIRST DEVELOPMENT IN IN THE CITY OF MACKENZIE THERE, SO IT'S A VERY UNIQUE PIECE OF PROPERTY. IT'S AND YOU JUST CAN'T FIND SOMETHING LIKE THIS KENNY WITH LARGER STATE HOMES. ON LARGE COMMERCIAL PIZZAS.

LARGE PIECES A TRACT OF LAND. AND IT'S REALLY SORT OF COUNTRY LIVING IN THE CITY. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE MOVED HERE BECAUSE OF THAT, AND. THE TYPE OF PEOPLE HAVE LIVED OTHER LIVING HERE. OUR POSITIONS, RETIREES, BUSINESS EXECUTIVES, BUSINESS OWNERS SUPERINTENDENT SCHOOLS LIVES HERE. FIRST RESPONDERS MAZE. PEOPLE MOVED HERE BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IT ISSE. AND WE ACTUALLY WE JUST HAD A SPINAL NEUROSURGEON AND A PEDIATRICIAN MOVE INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE IS QUALITY HOME THAT'S LOCATED IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT. WE NEED THESE TYPE OF HOMES FORWARD POSITIONS AND PROFESSIONALS LIKE THAT TO MOVE INTO THIS MEDICAL DISTRICT, TOO. YOU WORK IN LIVE IN THE SAME AREA. ALL THE PROPERTIES HERE IN MODERATION

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STATES, INCLUDING THE PROPERTIES OF QUESTIONS ARE ON SEPTIC SYSTEMS. THERE'S NO SOURCE SYSTEMS SUPPORT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. ROAD METAL RANCH ROAD IS A IS A BLACKTOP ROAD, WHICH IS ACTUALLY IS SUB STANDARD BY CITY STANDARDS. TODAY IT'S ACTUALLY FALLING APART, IT WOULD NOT SUPPORT NATIONAL COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC ON THAT PARTICULAR ROAD. KURT THE ZONING FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IN VETERANS OF STATES WAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED WITH THE VERY BEGINNING THERE. AND UH, HOMES WHEN THEY MOVED IN HERE KNEW WHAT THEY WERE. YOU KNOW WHERE THE COMMERCIAL PROBLEMS WERE, AND CHOSE TO LIVE WHERE APPROPRIATELY? REZONING THIS THEN YOU'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, TAKING AWAY THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY FROM THE EXISTING PROPERTIES AND CLOSE BUT NEXT PROXIMITY PROPERTIES PREVENT THEM FROM HAVING THAT THIS QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD LIFESTYLE THERE.

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOESN'T NEED THIS AREA AROUND. IT'S THE MEDICAL DISTRICT GRANTED. ALSO IN THE PLANET TALKED ABOUT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE AT MAJOR INTERSECTIONS.

RIGHT? THE RANCH ROAD AND UNIVERSITY DRIVE. IT'S NOT THE MAJOR INTERSECTION. ANOTHER REASON WE'RE AGAINST IT. YOU'RE ONE MCKINNEY 2040 PUBLIC INPUT LISTED KEEPING EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS VITAL IS THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN AMONG THE RESPONDENTS. THIS IS A VITAL NEIGHBORHOOD. KEEP IT. KEEP IT THERE. LIKE YOU, MR GORMAN. VISIT GUN ON OPPOSITION, MR GUNN. EVENING COMMISSION MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU ARE UNIQUE BY NATURE COMMUNITY. I AM VINCENT GUN. I'M REPRESENTING MY WIFE. JAN WE LIVE IN 1911 METAL RANCH ROAD, WHICH IS LOT THREE, WHICH IS THE UM THE PROPERTY TO THE LOWER LEFT OF THE YELLOW BOX THERE. SOLD WITHIN THE 200 FT. THERE AS MY GORMAN HAD HAD STATED, OUR CONCERNS ARE THE PEACEFUL, SECLUDED. FAMILY SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE CURRENTLY LIVE IN THAT WE CHOSE TO LIVE IN. AFTER LOOKING AT LITERALLY 41 HOUSES IN THE MCKINNEY. AREA WHEN WE MOVED HERE 15 YEARS AGO, THAT IS A UNIQUE SLICE OF COMMUNITY THERE THAT I DON'T THINK WE'RE FINDING ANYWHERE ELSE IN IN MCKINNEY. IT HAS THE FLAVOR THAT WE WANTED TO RAISE OUR FAMILY IN. THERE ARE SEVERAL YOUNG FAMILIES THERE, THERE ON THE STREET THERE THAT HAVE CHOSEN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE EXACT SAME REASON. LOW TRAFFIC OPEN. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT MOST OF THE PROPERTIES THERE HAVE AH, HUGE FRONT YARD.

LOTS OF SPACE TO PLAY. RIDE YOUR BIKE ON THE STREET, EX CETERA. OUR CONCERN IS THAT THE COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC. THE NOISE. THE OTHER NUANCES, INCLUDING FOOT TRAFFIC, THAT WOULD WOULD GO ALONG THAT COMMERCIAL AREA THERE. SOME OF WHICH WE'VE ALREADY EXPERIENCED, JUST WITH LIMITED AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL SPACE THERE WHERE THEY COME DOWN INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ACTUALLY INVADE AN OPEN GARAGE WERE CONCERNED THAT THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE. SO FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THE OTHER SCENARIO COURSES BECAUSE WE BOUGHT IT THAT WAY, AND IT MAY CHANGE IF YOU ALL APPROVE. THIS IS THAT OUR PROPERTY VALUES MAY MAY DECREASE. AS WELL AS FAR AS OUR LONG TERM INVESTMENT GOES. I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE COMMISSION MEMBERS THAT THIS ZONING REQUEST 21 TRIPLE 05 Z. IS ESSENTIALLY A REHASH OF A ZONING REQUEST MADE BY THE REQUESTER ORIGINALLY IN 2016, WHICH IS 14 Z. WHICH HAS BEEN BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE OR OR THIS COMMISSION, ALTHOUGH SOME OF YOU MAY BE NEW DO IT MULTIPLE TIMES AND TABLED EACH TIME WITH THE REQUEST THAT THE REQUESTER GET WITH THE COMMUNITY HAVE A MEETING AND HASH OUT. ANY OF THE DIFFERENCES THEY HAVE BEFORE ANY FURTHER WASTE OF YOUR TIME, SO THIS IN IN EFFECT, ALTHOUGH IT'S A NEW REQUEST IS THE FOURTH TIME THAT THIS REQUEST HAS COME BEFORE YOU. SO MY WIFE AND I. I ASK YOU TO DENY THIS REQUEST. IT'S BEEN A WASTE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S TIME. WASTE OF ALL Y'ALL'S TIME. PLEASE MAKE A FINAL DECISION AND JUST DENY THIS. THANK YOU VERY FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT CARD IS CHUCKING. HOWARD SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSION CHAIRMAN. LIVE IT 18 10 MINUTE RANCH. MY

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NAME'S CHUCK OUR ONBOARD. I'M REPRESENTING MY WIFE, JAN. ALSO. A CZAR. OTHER META RANCH RESIDENTS HAVE EXPRESSED YOU WERE GREAT OPPOSITION OF. UH ONE MAN, YOU KNOW, CREATING A TENFOLD PROFIT TO REMOVE A HOUSE FROM AN EXISTING SUBDIVISION IN YOUR CITY. WHAT ARE YOU OPENING UP? IF THIS HAPPENS, AND YOU LET THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY GO COMMERCIAL, AND THEY MOVE THE EXISTING BRICK WALL BOUNDARY OF THE SUBDIVISION TO THE OTHER SIDE. HE HAS SPENT SEVEN YEARS WASTING THE CITY COUNCIL. Y'ALL'S TIME OUR TIME MONEY. UM.

JUST TOOK CREATE MORE PROFITS FOR ANDRE AND ASSOCIATES. YOU'VE GOT ONE MAN AGAINST THE 50. FAMILY MEMBERS THAT AIR DOWN INTO SUB DIVISION. SO I ASK YOU TO STAY. FIRM ON YOUR DENIAL OF HIS REQUEST. JUST FOR A RANDOM EXAMPLE. IF THIS WAS TO ACCIDENTALLY PASS. SAY THE HOMEOWNERS THAT'S PROPERTY BACKS UP RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET TO THE HOSPITAL PARKING LOT. WE WANT OUR HOUSE OUR LOT OUT OF THE SUBDIVISION AND WE'RE GONNA PUT A SANDWICH SHOP TO SERVE THE HOSPITAL. WELL YOU'RE OPEN. THAT CAN OF WORMS THAT JUST WILL NEVER END. IF YOU TAKE A HOUSE OUT OF AN EXISTING SUBDIVISION IN ANY CITY, LET ALONE IN OUR UNIQUE BY NATURE. 30. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MR HOWARD. NEXT CARD. IT'S JULIETTE BUCHANAN, SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION. HELLO MY NAME IS JULIETTE BUCHANAN. AND I LIVE IN 18 30 MEADOW RANCH ROAD. WE MOVED THERE ABOUT 5.5 YEARS AGO. LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY WONDERFUL NEIGHBORHOOD IS A SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. WE SPENT A LONG TIME LOOKING BEFORE WE FOUND IT. IT IS UNIQUE BY NAME BY NATURE, JUST LIKE MCKINNEY IS ITS SPECIAL. THERE'S ONLY ONE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE IT AND I WOULD SAY THAT'S IN HORSESHOE BEND. WE HAVE LARGE LOTS. WE CAN HAVE HORSES BEHIND OUR HOUSE IS IF WE WANT. HOW TEXAN IS THAT? IT'S A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD, CHILDREN PLAY OUTSIDE, PEOPLE WALK THEIR DOGS. YARDS ARE BIG ENOUGH FOR SOCCER GAMES. HOW WONDERFUL AND COVERT TIMES. HAVE SPACE FOR OUR CHILDREN TO RUN AND PLAY. THIS IS A SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT IS CLOSE AS YOU CAN SEE TO THE MEDICAL CENTER. IT'S AN UPSCALE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S A PRIVATE NEIGHBORHOOD IS A SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S A VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOOD. IT HAS FAMILY HAS CHILDREN. IT HAS PEOPLE THAT ARE UPSTANDING MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING. IF YOU MOVE THE YOU CHANGE YOUR ZONING. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WILL GO DOWN. WE MUST HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THIS NEARER MEDICAL CENTER TO ATTRACT TOP NOTCH DOCTORS AND MEDICAL SPECIALISTS. AND I'D LIKE YOU TO KNOW THAT LAST SUMMER WE HAD NOT ONE BUT TWO FABULOUS DOCTORS MOVE INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD JUST DOWN THE STREET. THAT'S DR BECKER. AND DR HOUSTON. HE'S A NEUROSURGEON, AND SHE'S A PEDIATRICIAN. WE WANT MORE LIKE THIS, AND THIS IS A SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IN A SPECIAL PLACE THAT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY OF COMMUNITY AND FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY IN FOR THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY. AND IN AGAIN, YOU KNOW, MR ANDRES PLANS WOULD DISRUPT THIS TRANQUIL, PICTURESQUE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WOULD DRIVE DOWN OUR HOME PRICES AND IT WOULD TOTALLY CHANGE. AND YOU WOULD LOOK ONCE YOU LOSE THIS. I DON'T THINK YOU COULD GET IT BACK AGAIN BECAUSE THE CITY HAS GROWN UP AROUND THIS. THIS IS A JEWEL AND IT NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED.

IT NEEDS TO BE PRESERVED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR BUCHANAN. NEXT CARD IS MARK RUTLEDGE. IN OPPOSITION, MR RUTLEDGE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. USER FOR MY WIFE. MY NAME IS MARK RUTLEDGE.

I LIVE IN 18 30 METAL RANCH ROAD. AND AS SHE SAID, WE MOVED IN ABOUT 5.5 YEARS AGO, AND WE LOOK FAR AND WIDE FOR A SPECIAL HOUSE TO MOVE INTO. WE BOTH WORK OUT OF OUR HOMES.

SEMICONDUCTOR PROFESSIONAL OUT OF SILICON VALLEY, AND SHE'S A CONCERT MUSICIAN, AND WE FOUND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND JUST FELL IN LOVE WITH IT RIGHT AWAY. AND WE MOVED IN. AND YOU KNOW HOW

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IT IS WHEN YOU WHEN YOU BUY A NEW HOME, FRIEND ADVISING HOME, YOU SHOULD COME SEE THE NEW HOUSE. SEE THE NEW HOUSE? SO WE WOULD INVITE PEOPLE LOSING CRE HOUSE, SEE THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD AND PEOPLE COME OVER TO SAY WE LOVE YOUR HOUSE. WE LOVE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT IS AT THIS VERY SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE LOVED BEING THERE. IT'S LIKE WE JUST MOVED IN YESTERDAY WERE STILL EXCITED ABOUT IT. UM, BEFORE I MAKE MY NEXT POINT, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT SOME THINGS ON THIS PICTURE IF I WILL THE EXISTING WALL THAT YOU SEE IT'S THE WHITE LINE THROUGH THE WHITE BOX. IT DOES EXTEND BEYOND THE STREET ABOUT ROUGHLY 20 FT BRICK, AND THEN IT BECOMES A WALL OF TREES THAT THE VETERAN HAS. SO THERE IS A REALLY SOME KIND OF ALL ACROSS THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. SO WHEN YOU DRIVE IN OFF OF 3 80 YOU PASSED THROUGH THIS ONE. YOU NO LONGER SEE THOSE THOSE BUSINESSES BEHIND YOU AND THERE IS A WALL TO THE LEFT OF THAT EMPTY FIELD. ON THE LEFT, IT SHOWED IS A RED RED WINE SO THAT SO THERE IS A THERE IS SEPARATION BETWEEN THE BUSINESS DISTRICT OF 3 80, OUR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OKAY? SO, UM HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME LEFT. JUST WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE BUSINESS SIDE OF THESE THINGS.

I'M I'M A PHYSICS GUY BY BYE. MY TRAINING, BUT I'VE HAD A SUCCESSFUL CAREER IN BUSINESS MYSELF. I STARTED A COMPANY AND. 1997 AND WE SOLD IT FOR NINE FIGURES IN 2012, SO I SAID IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL. BUT IN BUSINESS AND ONLY TEACHES IN HARVARD BUSINESS SCHOOL OR NOT, BUT THERE'S A RIGHT WAY TO GO ABOUT THINGS, AND THERE'S A WRONG WAY TO GO ABOUT THINGS. I UNDERSTAND THAT KENNY'S PRO BUSINESS WE SHOULD BE PRO BUSINESS. WE HAVE AH, BUSINESSMAN WHOSE BUSINESS IS EXPANDING, OKAY? THERE'S A LOT OF THERE'S A LOT OF RIGHT WAYS HE CAN GO ABOUT THAT. HE CAN HE CAN BUILD ON HIS EXISTING ZONE PROPERTY. THERE'S PLENTY OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AVAILABLE IN MCKINNEY TO GO TO ACQUIRE OR YOU CAN MOVE INTO EXISTING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ELSEWHERE, LIKE INDEPENDENT BANK JUST DID. SO THESE ARE THE RIGHT WAY TO DO THINGS. THE WRONG WAY TO DO THINGS. IS TO EXPAND YOUR BUSINESS ON THE BACKS OF YOUR NEIGHBORS. THAT WOULD IMPACT MY. THE PROPERTY VALUE MY HOME AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. ACTUALLY GETS THE WRONG WAY TO DO THINGS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO. ONE'S THANK YOU, MR RUTLEDGE. NEXT CARD IS MARK SNYDER. SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION.

GET COMMISSIONER AND PLANNING HIS ZONING BOARD. MY NAME IS MARK SCHNEIDER. I LIVE AT 1800 MEN, A RANCH ROAD. UM AND I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA BE UNIQUE AND CALLING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD UNIQUE AND LINKING IT TO THE MODEL OF UNIQUE BY NATURE, BUT I THINK YOU'VE HEARD THAT FROM EVERYBODY. IT'S A UNIQUE AREA. MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 24 YEARS. WE THIS IS OUR THIRD HOME AND MCKINNEY. AND WE ALWAYS WANTED A YARD. THAT WAS BIG ENOUGH TOE. LET THE DOGS AND THE KIDS RUN IN. AND IT'S ZEE. WE GET SO MANY POST ITS SIZE LOTS IN THIS IN THIS AREA.

A LOT OF GREAT DEVELOPMENTS LOT OF GOOD NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT THERE'S NOT THERE'S NOT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE TWO PLUS ACRE LIVES. WE HAVE 2.2 ACRES AND MOST MOST OF THE LOTS ARE ABOVE TWO ACRES. YOU JUST DON'T SEE THAT IN MCKINNEY. AND OUR CONCERN IS AS AS THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY STARTS TO ENCROACH TO THE SOUTH IS NOT GOING TO STOP. ONE THING THAT REALLY CONCERNS ME IS MR ANDRE OWNED THE PROPERTY. JUST SOUTH, THE ONE THAT'S BEING REZONED OR HE'S ASKING REASON JUST SOUTH OF HIS BUSINESS. RECENTLY HE PURCHASED THE HOUSE SOUTH OF THAT FROM A FAMILY THAT WOULD NEVER HAVE SOLD THAT PROPERTY TO HIM. HE DID IT IN A WAY THAT WAS ESSENTIALLY DECEITFUL. WHAT CONCERNS ME IS WHERE DOES IT STOP? DOES HE FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO BUY A HOUSE AND HIS BEHALF WHEN ONE GOES UP FOR SALE IN NEIGHBORHOOD AND TRY TO SLOWLY TAKE IT OVER? IT'S VERY CONCERNING TO US. WE LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S IT IS TRULY COUNTRY LIVING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A KITTY. YOU JUST CAN'T FIND IT ANYWHERE ELSE. WE DON'T KNOW. WE'VE HAD NO OPEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT THE PLANS WOULD BE FOR THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. GETTING IT RE ZONE IS THE FIRST STEP WE'LL KNOW IF HE'S JUST GOING TO SELL IT TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER TO PUT IN A 10 STORY OFFICE BUILDING OR WHAT? WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN THERE AND SO WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE WOULD HOLD. AS YOU'VE HEARD, IT'S BEEN SEVEN YEARS THAT THIS IS BEEN GOING ON. I THINK ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. IT'S TIMETO PUT AN END TO THIS SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO BE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AGAIN. 24 YEARS HERE WHEN WE FOUND THIS PLACE, WE'VE ONLY BEEN IN THIS HOUSE 2.5 YEARS WE COULDN'T BELIEVE WE COULD FIND SUCH A GREAT PLACE RIGHT HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF MCKINNEY. I FEEL LIKE I'M IN THE COUNTRY WALK OUT THE BACK, AND THERE'S JUST ACRES OF PECAN TREES BEHIND US RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A KIDNEY. YOU JUST CAN'T GET ANY BETTER NOW, BUT APPRECIATE YOUR TIME FOR CONSIDERATION. WE'RE ALL FOR DEVELOPMENT. WE'VE BEEN HERE WHEN HE WAS 35,000 PEOPLE. NOW YOU KNOW WHAT OVER 200,000? THIS PLACE IS GROWN, AND WE

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BENEFITED FROM IT, BUT NOT RIGHT HERE. YOU DON'T NEED TO DESTROY SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN HERE AND IS REALLY HISTORICAL PART OF THE KENNY THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR SNYDER. THE NEXT CARD IS BARBARA SNYDER. TAKING IN OPPOSITION. GOOD EVENING. BOARD MEMBERS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR MY OPPOSITION. TODAY I AM A REAL ESTATE BROKER. MY NAME IS BARBARA SCHNEIDER. I LIVE IN 1800 MEN. A RANCH ROAD. I'VE BEEN A REAL ESTATE BROKER FOR OVER 21 YEARS. WE ACTUALLY MY HUSBAND JUST SPOKE. WE LIVE IN A HOME THAT MR CRAIG ACTUALLY BUILT FOR HIS WIFE MISSING. IT'S A REPLICA OF HIS GRANDMOTHER'S HOUSE. IT'S A VERY UNIQUE HOME IN A VERY UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOOD. BEING IN REAL ESTATE. I KNOW THIS. I GET CLIENTS ALL THE TIME. WHO ASKED ME FOR SPECIAL, UNIQUE PLACES, AND THERE REALLY ARE A LOT OF GREAT NEIGHBORHOODS AND MCKINNEY, BUT NOTHING THAT'S LIKE THIS. BETTER RANCH. STATES IS A VERY UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOOD IS MADE UP OF ONLY 17 LARGE ESTATE LOTS. VERY LARGE, UPSCALE ESTATE. THE STATES THAT WOULD ATTRACT HIGH AND PROFESSIONAL SUCH AS DOCTORS.

CORPORATE EXECUTIVES AS WELL AS PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING AND WANTING A HOME THAT OFFERS AN UPSCALE FIELD WITH A COUNTRY ESTATE AESTHETICS. THAT'S LIKE THESE ARE HARD TO FIND AND HIGHLY SOUGHT AFTER IN THE RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE WORLD HERE, MCKENNEY HOMEOWNERS WHO HAVE PURCHASED HERE HAVE PURCHASED HERE WITH THE INTENTIONS OF KEEPING THE VALUE OF THEIR INVESTMENTS. TURNING THE LOT THAT IS IN QUESTION TO A COMMERCIAL SITE WOULD GREATLY REDUCE HOME VALUES NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. IT WOULD'VE FIRSTLY AFFECT EVERY RESIDENT IN THIS TIGHT KNIT COMMUNITY IN THIS BEAUTIFUL, SMALL, TINY, LITTLE UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOOD. THESE TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOODS JUST DON'T EXIST IN MCKINNEY ANYMORE. THERE ARE ONLY A FEW THAT COULD COMPARE. TO THIS SPECIAL PLACE. TURNING THIS COMMERCIAL INTO A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WOULD DETRIMENTALLY AFFECT EVERY HOMEOWNER AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO NOTICE THAT ON YOUR PHOTOS. YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT. BUT THAT WALL IS ALMOST LIKE A STRAIGHT LINE. ONE WALL ON THIS SIDE OF THE ROAD IN ANOTHER WALL, AND IT'S LIKE WELCOME YOU INTO THIS COMMUNITY. HAVING TO MOVE THE WALL WOULD MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THIS, IT WOULD WOULD LOSE THE AESTHETICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF. WE'RE ALSO THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT YOU SEE THIS EVENING IF YOU DON'T KNOW IT, AND YOU HAVEN'T DRIVEN DOWN OUR ROAD. YOU DON'T REALLY SEE, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE LARGE LOTS. THE HOMES ARE REALLY CLOSE TOGETHER. SO WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE HOMES. IF YOU TURN THAT INTO A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, IT'S RIGHT THERE IN YOUR FACE. IT RUINS THE WHOLE LOOK OF THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM. I HAVE 30 SECONDS. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR OPPOSING THIS. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THE RESULT. RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE AND THE VALUES TO KEEP THE VALUES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MISS SCHNEIDER. SCARRED ABDUL BAKER.

OPPOSITION. THANK YOU COMMITTED MEMBERS FOR HEARING ME OUT. TELL MY NAME IS ABDUL BAKER.

I'M I NEUROSURGEON FINISHED MY TRAINING AT JOHNS HOPKINS. I DO VERY HIGHLY SPECIALIZED, A MINIMALLY INVASIVE ROBOTIC SPINE SURGERY AND I LIVE IN 18 11 METAL RANCH ROAD. I REALLY DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT. EXTRA TO SAY OTHER THAN WHAT? MY. COLLEAGUES WERE NEIGHBORS HAVE ALREADY SAID, BUT I WANT TO JUST HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS THAT SORT OF IS A DIFFERENT TASTE COMPARED TO WHAT THEY HAVE MENTIONED. I'VE ALL I WAS OFFERED PLENTY OF OFFERS IN THE AREA FOR THE JOB THAT I HAVE. AND I LOOKED AT. CLOSE TO 30 HOMES, AND THEN I LOOKED AT MY HOME JUST ONCE. AND WAS WILLING TO GIVE FULL PRICE OFFER. AND I TRAVEL QUITE A BIT. AND IT'S LIKE SAYING IF YOU IF YOU ONLY HAVE TWO SUCH NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY AND YOU'RE CALLING MCKINNEY UNIQUE BY NATURE CITY IF YOU HAVE TWO SUCH NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY AND TO SOMEHOW EVEN CONSIDER ENTERTAINING, DRASTICALLY CHANGING THE FORM OF THESE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD BE LIKE GOING TOE ROME AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE COLISEUM NEEDS TO GO BECAUSE THE BUSINESS ASPECT. IT'S JUST CREEPING UP. WE'RE JUST HAVING A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOWING, SO WE NEED TO HAVE MORE BUILDINGS. FORMAN THAT'S JUST DEVALUES THE VERY ESSENCE OFF THE CITY S O. THIS PARTICULAR AREA AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO MR SANCHEZ WHEN HE DREW THIS PICTURE, I THINK IT ZAKUM PLEA INACCURATE IF I MAY. OKAY, OKAY. TAP HERE.

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RABBIT COLOR THAN YOU COULD BE GREAT. THAT'S AWESOME. THANK YOU, MR SANCHEZ. SO IT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE THIS WHOLE AREA HERE. IS ALREADY DESIGNATED BUSINESS, BUT IT'S IT MAYBE DOESN'T GET IN BUSINESS. BUT IF YOU ENTER THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S A THERE'S A WALL. LIKE THIS. SO IF YOU NOW LOOK AT THIS AREA AT THE TOP, THAT'S THE AREA WHERE IT'S BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL, AND THAT IS COMPLETELY DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT. VISIBLY WHEN YOU ENTER THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE YOU DON'T SEE ANY OF THAT, BECAUSE ALL YOU SEE IS A PROPERTIES WITH BIG LOTS AND HAPPY FAMILY, AND I'M NOT HERE TO TAKE SIDES FOR OR POINT OUT INDIVIDUAL TRAITS OF A PERSON.

BUT IF I WOULD IF I WERE TOLD THAT PERSON WHO LIVES HERE. WHO COULDN'T BUY THIS HOUSE, WHICH HE OWNS NOW, BUT THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD BUY IS BY HAVING A SURROGATE BUYER AND TO TURN AROUND. BITE FROM THAT CIRCUIT BY THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THE MORAL OF THAT PERSON. THAT BRINGS THE QUESTION, SO YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN REHASHED IN THE PAST. SO HOW MANY TIMES ARE WE GONNA GO THROUGH THIS? PERHAPS THAT THIS PERSON HAS CONNECTIONS, HIGH LEVEL CONNECTION, BUT WE'RE ALL AMERICANS. WE WANT TO BE TREATED FAIRLY, AND WE ALL OUR VOICES NEED TO BE HEARD EQUALLY. AND, UH AND I HOPE THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD REMAINS PROTECTED. AS IT'S UNIQUE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THE GOOD DOCTOR VICTOR APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THE NEXT CARD IS KEITH ANDRE, SPEAKING IN FAVOR. CAPTAIN I'M SORRY, YOU KNOW, YIELD YOUR TIME. MR SANCHEZ, OKAY? MR SANCHEZ. IF IT'S THE COMMISSIONER'S THE CHAIRS. PLEASURE I COULDN'T TAKE ALL COMMENTS AT ONCE, OR I COULD START ADDRESSING WAY.

LET'S GET THROUGH THE CARDS AND THEN ANYONE ELSE AND THEN WE'LL TAKE THAT MORE FAIR WAY OF PERCEIVING THINGS. NEXTCARD MELISSA SIMMONS, SPEAKING IN FAVOR. EXCUSE ME, MISS EVANS.

THANK YOU. YES, BUT OF COURSE. HI. I'M MELISSA SIMMONS. I'VE LIVED IN MCKINNEY FOR 30 YEARS AND I WORK WITH MR ANDRE. I HAVE WORKED WITH HIM FOR 31 YEARS AND WE MOVED TO THE CURRENT OFFICE LOCATION IN JUNE OF 1999. AND HE HAS. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG HE'S ON THE PROPERTY BEHIND THERE, MAYBE 10 YEARS OR SOMETHING. BUT AS THE CITY HAS GROWN, WE'VE GROWN AND NOW THAT WE HAVE 24 PEOPLE IN OUR OFFICE. IT'S KIND OF CROWDED IN THERE AND S O I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THE SITE PLAN DEVELOPED THAT MR ANDRE HAD IT WAS GONNA BE OFFICE BUILDINGS BEHIND THERE, SO THERE WOULD BE LIKE AN OFFICE COMPLEX SO THAT THERE COULD BE MAYBE SOME MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDINGS BACK. THERE'S AS WELL AS OUR OFFICE BUILDING SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A LARGER OFFICE BUILDING TO WORK FROM. IF YOU DON'T APPROVE THIS PLAN.

THEN THE POSSIBILITY OF MR ANDRES SELLING ALL OF THE PROPERTY TO SOMEONE THAT WOULD BE COMMERCIAL THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOES NOT WANT, SUCH AS MCDONALD'S, OR. SOME OTHER FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS THAT COME IN THERE. UPON THE FRONT PART AND THEN THE VETERINARIAN COULD ALSO DO THE SAME. AND EVEN IN HIS COMMERCIAL, HIS PROPERTY IS ALREADY ZONE C ONE SO IT CAN ALREADY HAVE THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS IF HE CHOSE TO MOVE AWAY FROM THERE. SO. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS UNIQUE. I THINK IT'S A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. I DON'T THINK THAT US DEVELOPING THAT LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY BEHIND WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE IS GOING TO HARM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IF MR ANDRE MOVES THE WALL BACK AND PUTS THE WALL ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE STREET, THEN DON'T SEE THAT THERE'S ANY DIFFERENCE THERE STILL BE A GATE TO COME THROUGH TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT AT THE SAME TIME IF MR LEWIS DECIDES TO SELL HIS PROPERTY OVER ON THE EAST SIDE, THERE COULD BE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THERE. DO YOU WANT YOUR CHILDREN PLAYING NEXT TO A FACTORY? I DON'T THINK SO.

SO. IT'S JUST THE WAY THAT THINGS HAVE DEVELOPED OVER TIME. AND PROGRESS AND BUILDING IS WHAT'S HAPPENING ALL AROUND THAT WHOLE AREA, ESPECIALLY WITH THE HOSPITAL GOING IN. SO I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT IT'S GOING TO STAY. STAGNANT FOR VERY MUCH LONGER. SO THIS IS WHY I'M IN

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FAVOR OF THIS MAINLY FOR OUR OFFICE. BUT ALSO KEEP IT AT THE AT THE PLACE THAT IT IS NOW BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IF WE MOVE OUR OFFICE TO SOME OTHER LOCATION, AND MR ANDRE SELLS THE PROPERTY. THAT IT WOULD BE. SOMETHING ELSE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD NOT WANT TO BE THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS SIMMONS. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT? ON THIS ITEM, ANYONE THAT HASN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY. TONTO COME TO THE PODIUM. WHAT WE'LL DO. WE'LL HAVE THE AFRICAN IN THIS IN THE CITY STAFF. COME BACK UP. HOLD ON. GIVE ME ONE SECOND TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE AND THAT YOU'VE RAISED. WHAT WILL WOULD DO IS CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WHICH MEANS THERE WILL BE NO MORE AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY INTO A WAY IN AND HAVE A QUESTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE ANSWERED, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW BECAUSE WE WANT OUT OF DIRECT YOUR HAND RAISING UP IN THE AIR. IF YOU HAVEN'T COME, PLEASE COME. HAVE ALREADY COME. MAY I COME AGAIN? NO, YOU COULD SPEAK ONE TIME ON A PARTICULAR IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION YOU'RE ALL RIGHT. WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT BACK UP TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE. AND THEN IF BY CHANCE WE MISS ONE AFTER THE MEETING, WE'RE GOING TO ENGAGE EVERYBODY WITH WITH EACH OTHER. SO WE GET YOUR QUESTION. ANSWER NO ONE WILL LEAVE TONIGHT WITH NO QUESTION ANSWERED. UNANSWERED BECAUSE I WANTED TO REMIND YOU ALL THAT IT IS A NO OUTLET STREAK, ONLY PEOPLE THAT GO INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, OUR NEIGHBOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. GOD. LEST ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW.

NOT WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. GOOD WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION, MR. DOPED CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SECOND MOMENTS TO WHAT LENA DISCUSSION. HE'S CAST YOUR VOTES. REAL VOTE. AYE. GET BUMPED OFF. THE MOTION CARRIES THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED. NOW WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS. WOULD YOU LIKE THE APPLICANT OR CITY STAFF FIRST? BEFORE WE STARTED THE QUESTION, MR CHAIR. JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER. IT'S AT 70. MR MAN'S. I STEPPED OUT, SO IT'S REALLY 60.

JUST THANKS. THANKS FOR YOUR CLERICAL HELP THERE. I APPRECIATE THAT. ANYONE. DID YOU LIKE HIM FROM STAFF OR. THE AFRICAN. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, OKAY? YES, COMMISSIONER. MR ST JAMES. YOU JUST YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN THIS TO ME. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL. IT DOES NOT FRONT 3 80. I AM STRUGGLING WITH THE REQUEST. YES SIR. I COULD UNDERSTAND IF YOU'LL PERMIT ME. I'LL ADDRESS THAT FIRST AND THEN I CAN GET INTO THE NOTES THAT I TOOK SOME OF THEM. OKAY, MR CHAIR. COMMISSIONER. THIS IS ODDITY OF 20 YEARS IN THE MAKING. WE NEVER REALLY ANTICIPATED HOW LARGE US 3 80 WAS GOING TO BE.

WHEN I WAS FIRST HERE IN THE NINETIES, AND YET HERE WE ARE AND HOW IT HAS EVOLVED. THE CURRENT PROPERTY NOW I'M GONNA START ANNOTATED, SIR. THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE IS ALREADY ZONED NON RESIDENTIAL ZONE COMMERCIAL OFFICE, OKAY? THERE'S TWO BUILDINGS ON THAT PROPERTY THAT WERE MOVED IN. I BELIEVE IN THE LATE EIGHTIES, EARLY NINETIES AND S O THAT PROPERTY HAS ALWAYS BEEN DEEMED TO BE COMMERCIAL OFFICE. HE BOUGHT THAT FROM MR CRAIG FROM DAVID DIRECTLY, OKAY? IN ADDITION TO DURING ALL OF THAT. THIS IS THE VETERINARIAN OFFICE THE ENTIRE THING ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE. AND IN HIS OWN SEA PLANTS CENTER. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY NOT REMEMBER IN THE OLD ZONING DISTRICT IN 12 70 SEE PLANTS CENTER IS THE MOST INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL ZOHDI THAT MCKINNEY HAS THATS TARGET LOWE'S WAL MART ETCETERA NOT SAYING YOU HAVE YOUR BIG ENOUGH FOR IT, BUT RESTAURANTS, EVEN APARTMENTS ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT MANY WAREHOUSE. YES. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEN YOU HAVE ALL OF THIS. THAT IS EXISTING ZONING. SO IF I HAD A FATTER MARKER, I WOULD LOOK I DO HAVE FATTER MARKER. OH, MY GOSH. BUT THAT WAS THE FATTER MARKET. THIS AREA HERE. HAS ALWAYS BEEN. NONRESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH.

OKAY, THAT'S HOW THAT OCCURRED. THE AREA THAT IS OVER HERE, IN FACT, IS INDUSTRIAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BY RIGHT YOU COULD JUST DO IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS UNLESS YOU'RE

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REQUESTING VARIANCES. ALL RIGHT NOW CLEARING THAT WHAT WE'RE REALLY ASKING TODAY, SIR, IS TOO ZONE THAT PART WHICH IS HOME CURRENTLY, THAT IS A LITTLE OLDER. IT IS CURRENTLY BEING USED AS A RENT. PACKED IN ORDER TO TIE. THIS PROPERTY AND THIS PROPERTY TOGETHER. WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE AS BELIEVE, MR WOODRUFF EARLIER WHEN YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE DEPTH OF DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. IT'S THE DEPTH OF DEVELOPMENT. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE DEPTH TO MAKE THIS WORK, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA END UP IS WITH THERE'S NO OTHER WAY AROUND ME SAYING IT, BUT THE CREDIT'S DEVELOPMENT YOU CAN GET BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO COME OUT ON REALLY TINY SPACE. THOSE AIR USUALLY FAST FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS BECAUSE THEY COULD BE DEVELOPED IN HIS NARROW US SPACE OF ABOUT 120 FT. WE COULD MAKE HIM WORK. WE DO IT ALL THE TIME. SO TO CLEAR UP SOME ITEMS. THE LAST TIME THAT WE REQUESTED THIS PARTICULAR CASE IN 2016. WE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO THE RESIDENTS, AND WE COULDN'T GET ANY RESIDENTS TO RESPOND. WE SENT OUT A SURVEY WE SENT OUT A MAILER. WE RESPONDED, AND THE RESPONSES WE RECEIVED WAS NO, THANK YOU. ON TIME. YOU MEAN, YOU KNOW, JUST SUMMARIZING THEY ACTUALLY WEREN'T THAT THEY WEREN'T RUDE AT ALL. OKAY. SO, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WERE GOING TO DO COMMERCIAL HERE. AN OFFICE HERE. BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE, WELL, THAT'S A LEASED A COMPROMISE TO LESSEN THE INTENSITY AS YOU STARTED 3 80 GOING SOUTHWARD COMMERCIAL OFFICE RESIDENTIAL WE WILL SCREEN WILL BUFFER WILL DO ALL THE THINGS THAT WE NORMALLY DO.

TO MAKE MATTER DESIGNS. WE WENT ALL THE WAY TO CITY COUNCIL AND WHAT WE WERE REALLY ALSO TRYING TO DO WITH CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE THERE WAS LANGUAGE THAT WAS AMBIGUOUS THAT IT'S STILL AMBIGUOUS. HOWEVER COUNSEL CLARIFIED IT AT THE 2016 ZOHDI CASE. UNDER EGG ZONING. WE COULD DO OFFICE BY RIGHT WAY DON'T HAVE TO ASK FOR ANYTHING. IT'S ALLOWED. IT IS WHAT IT IS SO UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING, I COULD COME IN AND DO COMMERCIAL HERE. AN OFFICE HERE. THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT? IS THAT THE OFFICE BY RIGHT IN EGGS OWNING DOESN'T REALLY HAVE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT GUIDE US TO SAY, HEY, LOOK AT THESE THINGS IN TOTALITY TO CREATE A BETTER DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S WHERE THE NEW ONCE GETS REALLY KIND OF STICKY. SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO NOW IS SIMPLY. ZONE, FOUR ACRES. RIGHT THERE. THAT IS SEE, TOO. ONE OF THEM'S ALREADY COMMERCIAL OFFICE, THE OTHER ONE'S ACT, BUT I COULD DO OFFICE BY RIGHT NOW. AT LEAST I HAVE GUIDANCE, MISS ARNOLD AND HER TEAM CAN NOW SAY MARTIN HERE THE GUIDELINES HERE, BUT YOU HAVE TO DO SO MANY TREES, SO MANY PARKING SPACES, ETCETERA, ETCETERA. IT'S CLEAR CUT. IT'S NOT AMBIGUOUS ANYMORE. SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, MR COMMISSIONER JOKE, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. YEAH. SO YOU HAVE BY RIGHT TO DO COMMERCIAL IN THAT CORNER TODAY, OR IS IT GOING TO OFFICE TODAY? TODAY THIS IS COMMERCIAL, AND I ZONED COMMERCIAL THAT CAN DEVELOP THEM. BY RIGHT. THIS RIGHT HERE IS EGGS OWNING WHICH TOTE WHICH ALLOWS OFFICE DEVELOPMENT BY RIGHT WE WENT ALL THE WAY TO COUNSEL SO THAT WE COULD GET COUNSEL AND THE CITY ATTORNEY TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION, WHICH THEY DID IN 2016. BUT AGAIN, THERE'S THE NEBULOUS PART OF YOUR AG. OFFICERS ALLOWED. BUT HOW. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO CLEAN UP INSTEAD OF HAVING THIS ALL THIS KIND OF MINUTIA. WHY DON'T WE JUST CLEAN IT UP? RECOGNIZE WHAT IT IS SO WE COULD DEVELOP APPROPRIATELY IN CONTEXT. TO REALLY KIND OF BRING EQUALITY DEVELOPMENT TO THE GROUND. THAT ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION, MR. ORDER IT ADDRESSES THE QUESTION. BUT AGAIN IF YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO DEVELOP IT ANY WAY YOU WANT, THEN WHY ARE WE HERE, SIR? BECAUSE WE KEEP COMING BACK HERE. THE ONLY REASON WE'RE COMING BACK AGAIN IS THAT. OFFICE USES THEIR ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN EGGS, ONIY. WE DON'T HAVE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT SAY SO MANY PARKING SPACES HERE YOUR SETBACKS, ETCETERA. IF WE BRING THIS TOGETHER IN ZONE INAPPROPRIATELY NOW, IT WILL BE EASIER TO ACTUALLY MAKE THOSE DEVELOPMENTS. STANDARDS WORK, SIR. YOUR POINT IS, YOU CAN DEVELOP IT BY RIGHT. BUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS ACTUALLY HELPING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YES,

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BY DOING THAT. YES, SIR. OKAY. YEAH, I LIKED IT. MR COX OF IF I COULD ADDRESS THE OTHER COMMENTS OR WHAT OF COUNT? THE COMMISSION HAS ANY OTHER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, MR WATT EARLIER. GO. SO YOU SAID THAT YOU HAVE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO THE RESIDENTS, BUT THEY WERE INTERESTED WAY DID IN 2016 MAN. IN FACT, WE SENT OUT A MAILER TOE EVERY RESIDENT. YES, MA'AM.

OKAY EVERY RESIDENT ON HOW MANY LETTERS DID YOU SEND? UH ALL 17 OF THE OF THE OWNER'S FAMILY.

WHAT WAS THAT IN 2016 WHEN WE WERE FIRST TRYING TO CLEAR UP THIS ISSUE? WHAT ABOUT RECENTLY AS YOU HAVE YOU BROUGHT THIS BACK FORWARD? WHAT HAPPENED? WE DID NOT BRING IT UP BACK TO THEM AGAIN. I MEAN, THE LAST TIME WE BROUGHT IT UP WE HAD NO RESPONSE. SO WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THAT THAT ANYTHING WAS GOING TO CHANGE, MAN. SO I GUESSED THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION. TWO CITIES. I COULDN'T WANTED. BUT WHAT DIRECTIVES WERE WAS IF THE APPLICANT HAS COME FORWARD BEFORE, AND I REMEMBER THIS. WHAT DIRECTIVES DID PAINS HE GIVE IN COUNCIL AS FAR AS REACHING OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I KNOW THAT THERE'S SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT MENTIONED THAT IN THEIR LETTERS. I'LL HAVE TO DEFER THAT QUESTION TO JOE AND HIS RESEARCH ON THE HISTORY OF THE GAME. TERRY WHICH ONE PUTTING BACK TO STAFF PRESENTATION. HMM. I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER, WOULD YOU MIND REPHRASING THAT QUESTION FOR ME, MAKE SURE I ANSWERED COMPLETELY. MISSION WOULD YOU MIND REPHRASING THAT I'M SURE I JUST WANTED TO TRY AND STORY BEFORE YOU. HMM SO THEY WERE GIVEN A PERSON OF THESE NOTES THERE. THEY WERE GIVEN DIRECTIVES THROUGH PNC AND THROUGH CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH PRESIDENT IN. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THOSE SPECIFIC DIRECTIVES THAT OR OR THE GRIP, LASSE? YEAH YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A LOT OF TIME WATCHING THOSE OLD HEARINGS ON THE PREVIOUS CASE, THE MOST RECENT WAS A CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN BLUE WAS MARCH OF 2018. UM THE ULTIMATE OUTCOME OF THAT MEETING WAS THEY WERE HOPING THAT YOU KNOW THEO AFRICAN WOULD BE ABLE TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COME UP WITH SORT OF A WIN WIN SOLUTION. PORT FOR THE REQUEST. ON, BEN, YOU KNOW, SINCE THEN, WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY ADDITIONAL ACTIVITY ON THE REQUEST S O. EARLIER THIS YEAR, THEY CAME TO US WITH A STRAIGHT ZONING REQUEST, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT THAN THE PREVIOUS SONY ON SO THAT'S WHY WE WAY BROUGHT THIS FORWARD. KNOWING THAT IT WAS ESSENTIALLY DIFFERENT REQUEST. I MEAN, THE PREVIOUS WAS A PD WITH THE NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON WITH IT. THIS WAS JUST A STRAIGHT ZONING REQUEST. MM. AND THE APPLICANT AT THE TIME THAT WAS AGREEABLE TO MEETING WITH RESIDENTS AND DISCUSSING YOU KNOW, I'VE LISTENED. I WASN'T WITH CITY OF MCKINNEY AND 2018, SO I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT CASE AT THE END THERE.

HOWEVER, YOU KNOW THAT THIS BEING A NEW CASE. I KNOW THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT ON A PREVIOUS CASE COUNSEL HAVE BEEN CONCERNED WITH. THAT YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HIS STAFF. YOU KNOW WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS IS A PURELY LAND USE EVALUATION. AND SO THAT'S WHY WEII CHOSEN BEFORE WORD WITH IT THIS TIME. YOU KNOW, WE DID. WE DO FEEL THE ZONING IS APPROPRIATE. BUT YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF PRESIDENT, INVOLVEMENT OR RESIDENT OPINION. SO BASED ON SOME OF THE CONCERNS, WHICH INCLUDE NOISE AND TRAFFIC, IN PRESERVING THEIR HOME VALUES BASED ON WHAT'S ALLOWABLE UNDER C TWO HAS THE CITY TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS AND FEEL CONFIDENT. THAT WAS ALLOWABLE UNDER THIS.

THE TWO ZONING THAT THAT THAT WON'T BE A CONCERN. YEAH, VERY FREQUENTLY. WE DO. SI SI TU ZONING IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL USES. THE CITY DOES HAVE A SLEW OF STANDARDS FOR COMMERCIAL USES OF DUBBING RESIDENTIAL USES. THOSE INCLUDE SCREENING. THOSE INCLUDE CANOPY TREES, AND THOSE INCLUDE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS. S O. ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD GO IN WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY REGULATIONS THE SAME AS IT WOULD ANY OTHER COMMERCIAL.

AREA THAT BUT TO THE RESIDENTIAL PROJECT. THE USES WAY. GOT THE PARCEL, THEN TO THE WEST. AT THE OTHER ENTRY. AND IT'S SEE PLAYING CENTER. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT. I WAS LEAVING. YEAH I CAN DO THIS. BUT YEAH, YOU WENT THROUGH THE USES THAT ARE APPROVED THE BASIC ANA. USES THAT THAT LANDED COULD DO BY RIGHT TODAY. YEAH. SO THE EXISTING PD ON

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THIS PORTION OF THE PROPERTY HERE? NO, NO, NO, I'M PRETTY PSYCHED ABOUT THIS IS REFERRING TO THE VETERINARY, OK, CORRECT. CORRECT? YEAH THE VETERINARIAN IS A SEA PLANTS ENTER BASED ZONING. WHICH UM, I BELIEVE THE PD ALSO ALLOWS FOR OPEN STORAGE BY RIGHT WITH SOME PROVISIONS.

BUT SEE PLANT CENTER IS ONE OF OUR MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT'S LITTLE LEGACY DISTRICT. IT'S NOT ONE THAT WE ACTIVELY WOULD ZONE TWO TODAY. BUT IT DOES INCLUDE A VARIETY OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, LIKE A DRIVE THRU RESTAURANT CAR WASH, YOU KNOW, RETAIL RESTAURANT THOSE SORTS OF USES. BUT YEAH, IT IS PROBABLY KNOWS APPROXIMATELY THREE. COMMERCIAL MR SIMILAR. SEE THREE. HOSPITALITY AND OFFICE. AND YES, SO THE SEA PLAN CENTER IS OUR LEGACY DISTRICT. THE MODERN EQUIVALENT OF THAT IS C THREE. SECOND QUESTION. OBVIOUSLY THE.

METO RANCH ROAD THAT GOES I'VE PUT LOOKING UP ALL THE FILM. KIND OF DEAD ENDS. BUT THERE'S A SUBDIVISION ACT TO THE SOUTH. IT LOOKS LIKE THE ROADS. MEANT TO TIE AT SOME POINT. WHAT IS THE THOUGHT ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN? WHAT'S SAID THAT THAT'S A GATED FIRE ACCESS ON THAT IS NOT PUBLIC. THOROUGHFARE THROUGH THERE. IT IS, YOU KNOW, METAL RANCH IS NOT ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN IT IS, YOU KNOW, MINOR STREET. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD BE ENVISIONED TO BE ENLARGED AND THE BIGGER OVER TIME. THAT SAID THE YOU KNOW THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG 3 80. YOU KNOW, SHOULD ANYTHING GO IN? ENGINEERING GROUP WOULD ALWAYS LOOK AT THAT SITE PLAN STAGE AND DETERMINE IF THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE WAS ADEQUATE FOR WHAT THEY'RE BEING FOR WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. WOULD REQUIRE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS IF THEY DEEM THEM NECESSARY AT THAT TIME. IF I COULD CHIME IN ON THAT, NOT TOE, BELABOR ANY POINTS, BUT THERE IS A GATE. IT'S A FIRE ACCESS ONLY GATE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT META RANCH STREET. I KNOW THAT HAS BEEN A CONCERN THAT OF POTENTIAL PATRONS OF A COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT. COME IN, THEY MIGHT THINK IT'S A THROUGH STREET AND THEN COME THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON A STREET THAT MAY OTHERWISE NOT BE SUPPORTIVE OF. THAT S O. I THINK JOE TALKED A LOT ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED ADJACENT TO THE SUBDIVISION. WE DO ALSO HAVE TOOLS THAT ARE RESOURCE OR AT OUR DISPOSAL THE CITY TO PUT THINGS LIKE NOT A THROUGH STREET SIGNAGE UP TO HELP ENSURE THAT FOLKS WHO MAY BE TURNING AND I MET A RANCH KNOW THAT THEY CAN'T ACTUALLY GO ANYWHERE ONCE THEY GET ON IT IF THEY NEED TO PULL BACK OUT ON THE 3 80, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO SO THROUGH THAT PARKING LOT OR YEAH. EXCELLENT EXCELLENT.

ARE THERE QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ANYTHING ELSE? MR WATLEY? A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I'M ASSUMING MR SANCHEZ 2016 YOU WERE INVOLVED. WITH THIS PROJECT. I HAVE, SIR IN MISS COOKING. EXCUSE ME WHEN I WOULD I SAID 2016. IT'S BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TWICE.

ACTUALLY WE THOSE MAILERS WHEN WE APPROACH THIS CASE IN 2018. MY APOLOGIES, MA'AM. SO YES, MR WATLEY. I WAS INVOLVED. OKAY, SO. SOMETHING YOU SIT THE LETTERS OUT TO THE RESIDENTS SEEKING A WIN WIN FOR EVERYONE. YES, SIR. OKAY, SO WHY NOW? WE'RE NOT WILLING TO ENGAGE BY SENDING LETTERS. THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION IN THE SECOND QUESTION WOULD BE IS IT RELATED TO THAT STREET? YES, SIR. UH, GETTING MORE TRAFFIC ON THAT STREET. HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO WORK AROUND THAT? SO WHILE I ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION IF I COULD ASK, MISS RAMEY, IS THERE ANY WAY POSSIBLE YOU CAN BRING JUST BUT JUST APPEAR AERIAL OF THIS AREA.

IF THAT'S NOT TOO MUCH TROUBLE, MR CHAIR. IT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T GO TO A LOT OF THESE DISCUSSION POINTS JUST APPEAR, ARIEL, THAT GOES ALL THE WAY BASICALLY DOWN TO THE SUB DIVISION TO THE SOUTH, MR WALLY ON THE ON THE YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE RESIDENTS. I AM MORE THAN HAPPY, AND IN FACT, IT'S JUST NOBODY KNOWS THAT I WILL GO TO GREAT LENGTHS TO FIND WIN WIN SOLUTIONS. WHENEVER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DESIGN OF ISSUES BECAUSE I THINK THROUGH DESIGN WE CAN AMELIORATE THE WHOLE LOT OF CONCERNS. AND IF THE RESIDENTS ARE WILLING, BUT IF THIS BODY SAYS MARTIN, GO BACK AND TALK TO THEM AND TRY TO WORK SOMETHING OUT, I AM MORE THAN WILLING TO DO THAT. AND PUT THIS ON HOLD AND TAKE THIS UP AGAIN. IN A MONTH OR TWO WEEKS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. I KNOW MR UNDER RIGHT NOW WANTS TO PROBABLY HIT ME, BUT THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS. WHAT WE WOULDN'T WANT TO DO. MR. WATLEY IS IF THE CONVERSATION IS GOING TO BE, LET'S ALL GET TOGETHER, TRY TO FIND A SOLUTION AND THE SOLUTION IS MARTIN. THE ANSWER'S NO. WELL, THEN WE'RE GONNA BE RIGHT BACK TO THIS

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BODY, BASICALLY SAYING THE SAME THING. SO I WOULD JUST WANT IT SENT GOOD EXPECTATIONS FOR YOU.

SERVICE IF THAT'S WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING. IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT, SIR? BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION HERE. I IF I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ITEMS NOW, SIR, OR CONTINUE WITH THE AREA. WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE QUESTION SOONER OR LATER. SO YOU PICK? YES SIR. I'LL DO THE AERIAL FIRST. OKAY NOW, MIND YOU. WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY IS GET PHILOSOPHICAL AS A LONG RANGE PLANNER, AND THERE'S A POLICYMAKER. AND CERTAINLY THIS IS OWNING. AND SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, I'M STEPPING OUT OF THE BOX OF WHAT HIS OWN, OKAY. WHAT IN THE WORLD OF HAVING TO DO URBAN REDEVELOPMENT, URBAN RENEWAL INFILL DEVELOPMENT. YOU HAVE CONSTRAINTS. IT'S JUST IT'S COMPLICATED. IT'S NOT EASY. IF I'M LOOKING AT THIS GENERICALLY AND SAY, MARTIN, HOW DO YOU SOLVE IT? WELL, I HAVE IDEAS THAT QUITE FRANKLY, IS PRETTY EASY. FOR EXAMPLE, I HOPE IT CAN DRAW THIS. CURRENTLY THERE IS SECONDARY GATE THERE NOW THE HISTORY OF THIS DEVELOPMENTS QUITE INTERESTING. WHEN THE SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH GENERALLY AT THAT, FIELDCREST DRIVE AREA CAME IN. IT ONLY HAD ONE POINT OF ACCESS. AND IT WAS A GREAT DEBATE AS TO HOW WE WERE GONNA MAKE THAT SUBDIVISION WORK. I KNOW BECAUSE I ENTITLED IT DIDN'T AND IN THE END WHAT WE DID, AND THE COMPROMISE THAT WE CAME UP WITH WITH CITY STAFF WAS TO CREATE THAT CONNECTION THERE, BUT IT'S AN EMERGENCY GATE.

ONLY SO IF FIRE HAD TO ACCESS THE SECOND POINT OF ACCESS INTO THE SUBDIVISION, THEY COULD RUN RIGHT THROUGH THAT CRASH. KATE AND GO DO WHAT FIRE DOES RIGHT SAVE PEOPLE. IF THAT CONNECTION WAS NOT THERE. THIS ENTIRE SUBDIVISION OF THE SOUTH IS BASICALLY ONE LONG, COLD SACK.

WHICH I DON'T THINK MISS ARNOLD OR ANY OF HER TEAM. WHATEVER AGREE TO IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE AGREED TO BACK THEN. SO THE ANSWER IN MY OPINION, SIR, THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION, AND THAT'S IT. IS THAT WHAT WE OUGHT TO DO, OR WE OUGHT TO CONSIDER IS BASICALLY GATING. THE NORTH SIDE. OKAY? AND THEREBY, HERE'S THE PROBLEM IF SOMEBODY IS TRYING TO EXIT HERE WITH 50,000 VEHICLE TRIPS PER DAY, COMING IN TWO WAYS, AND YOU'VE GOT A VERTICAL CURVE PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE KIND OF SITTING HIGH WHERE YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE WESTBOUND TRAFFIC. TRYING TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION IS IMPOSSIBLE WHERE YOU'RE TAKING YOUR LIFE IN YOUR OWN HANDS, AND THAT'S NOT A GOOD SOLUTION. SO WHAT SEEMS TO BE LOGICAL IS TO COME OUT ON THE LAKE FOURS AND THEN COME HERE WHERE YOU HAVE A PROTECTED INTERSECTION THAT IS FULLY NURSE SIGNAL IZED THERE, SO IT'S A SAFE WAY OF EXITING THAT SUBDIVISION. IF WE WERE TO DO THAT, WE COULD STILL KEEP THE GATE THERE AND IT BECOMES A GATED SUBDIVISION, ALL OF METAL RANCH IS A GATED SUBDIVISION NOW WITH ADDED PRIVACY. SO THEY COULD HAVE ALL THE PRIVACY THAT THEY WANT AND YOU'VE SOLVED THE PROBLEM THROUGH DESIGN. THAT SEEMS LOGICAL. THAT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD WORK OUT. THEN IT COMES OUT TO HOW DO YOU SCREEN AND BUFFER THIS AREA WHICH I'LL GET TO HEAR THE SECOND AND I THINK WE COULD FIND SOME DESIGN SOLUTIONS.

THAT A FAIR STATEMENT, MR WILEY. YEAH. THANK YOU, SIR. NOW IF I COULD, YES WILL TALK TO QUESTION YES, SIR. SO THE FIRST ITEM THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS ON MY NOTES, MR CHAIR IS THE ISSUE OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. THAT WAS AN ITEM THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BEFORE THE 16 IN THE 18 DISCUSSION AS WELL. SO WE DID SOME APPROPRIATE RESEARCH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE PREPARED FOR THAT. MR CHAIR, AND THEY'RE TECHNICALLY IS NO HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. I HAVE A DOCUMENT HERE FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS, SIR. FORTUNATELY WROTE ON MY NOTES, AND I DON'T MIND SENDING THIS TO PEONS HERE TO WHOEVER YOU WANT. BUT IN ESSENCE, THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE IN FEBRUARY. 28 2020 ISSUED NOTICE RESCINDED AND FORFEITING THE CHARTER OF SET ASSOCIATION. THE ASSOCIATION WAS ESTABLISHED WITH A FEW MEMBERS. THAT'S NOT REALLY AN H AWAY. I MEAN, YOU AND I CAN AGREE THAT TO GOVERN OURSELVES, BUT YOU AND I CANNOT AGREE TO GOVERNMENTS TO WATLEY THAT ZOO NOT ALLOWED. IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT A FORCE OF THEM. BUT THE DOCUMENTS FROM THAT SO THERE IS REGARDED THE H AWAY NOW RELATIVE TO THE ISSUE OF MYSTERY ME. CAN I GO BACK TO MY PRESENTATION THERE, PLEASE RELATIVE TO THE ISSUE. OF SCREAMING, WHICH IS REALLY WHY WE HAVE A CHOICE AND KIND OF SIGN IT AND ENTRYWAYS AND INTRA

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MARKERS AGAIN THROUGH DESIGN. I THINK WE CAN GET THERE. THANK YOU, MA'AM. SO CURRENTLY THERE IS A FENCE HERE AND THEN ON THE SIDE OF THE VETERINARY OF THERE IS A SCREENING WALL. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. WHAT I THINK WE HAVE FAILED TO FULLY UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT IS THAT THE SEA PLANTS CENTER IS ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE. ALL OF THAT TO SEE PLANTS CENTER. SO ULTIMATELY THE VETERINARIAN LOT IS GOING TO DEVELOP A REDEVELOP OR EXPAND. IN SOME FASHION. HE HAS THE RIGHT TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE SOUTH. IN A WORLD WHERE DESIGN IS UTILIZED A MILITARY THESE ISSUES IS WE WOULD. REMOVE THAT FENCE THERE. WHICH IS OWNED BY THAT LOT OWNER IT'S NOT OWNED BY AN INCH AWAY. WE COULD GO TAKE IT DOWN NOW AND INSTALL A SCREENING WALL. THERE WE COULD WORK WITH THE VETERINARIAN AND CONTINUE MAYBE THE LIFE SCREAMING IN THIS AREA. ADD TO CREATE THAT EFFECT OF AN INTEREST PORT AND WE COULD DO THAT. WHY? BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. AND ULTIMATELY IF, IN FACT, THESE TWO THESE LOTS EVER DEVELOPED, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT, ANYWAY. SO WHY NOT JUST COMMIT TO DOING IT BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. SO. THAT'S THE AGE OF A DISCUSSION WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AND IT BEING COMMERCIAL, ANOTHER POINT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AGAIN. I THINK WE'VE BEAT THAT HORSE A LITTLE BIT HERE THAT. IT'S THREE. ALL OF THIS IS COMMERCIAL. IN SOME FASHION. THIS IS A NEW OVERLAY DISTRICT. THIS ISN'T OFFICIAL ANDY'S PLAN AS COMMERCIAL NONRESIDENTIAL, SO I GET THE SENSITIVITY SERVED FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE. WE'LL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN WITHIN OUR POWER. TO AMELIORATE THOSE THOSE IMPACTS. RELATIVE TONTO, THE SEWER SYSTEM. WE ABSOLUTELY AGREE. WE HAVE NO SOONER RIGHT NOW. THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS THE EXISTING OFFICES THAT ARE RIGHT THERE. THEY RUN OFF. OF SEPTIC SYSTEMS WE FULLY ARE AWARE OF THAT. AND AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS, ZONING IS ONE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE. IT'S THE ENTITLEMENT PIECE. ULTIMATELY WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH SANITARY SEWERS. WELL WE RAN A STUDY A FEW YEARS AGO WHERE. MR ANDRE AND THE VETERINARIAN TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY HAD THE SEWER LINE DESIGNED IN ACTUALLY DESIGNED IT ALL THE WAY DOWN METAL RANCH. TO CONNECT TO THE SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH. THEY WERE GOING TO PICK UP THE TAB AND ALLOW ANY OF THE RESIDENTS THAT THAT WERE THERE TO CONNECT INTO THAT IF THEY SO CHOSE. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A FAIRLY BIG INVESTMENT ON MR ANDRES PART. BUT WE KNOW THAT BEFORE WE EVER DEVELOPED THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED IF IT'S NEVER ADDRESSED, IT'S NEVER GONNA GET DEVELOPED. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT. EXISTING ZONING VERSUS THE COM PLANT AGAIN. WE DISCUSSED THAT AT QUITE A BIT SORE RELATIVE TO THE EXISTING LAND USES AND WHAT I COULD DO BY, RIGHT AS FAR AS OFFICE GOES. MAJOR INTERSECTION, AND THAT'S WHERE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT GOES. I AGREE. I MEAN, TYPICALLY SPEAKING, YOU SEE THE MOST INTENSE COMMERCIAL RIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION. AND WHAT HAPPENS IS AT THAT CORE. IT BLEEDS OUT TOE LESSER, INTENSE DEVELOPMENT III WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT Z KIND OF POINT HERE. COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC VERSUS FOOT TRAFFIC AGAIN. THIS IS WHERE THE IDEA OF PUT THE GATE THERE OPEN UP THE GATE TO THE SOUTH, AND YOU'VE ESTABLISHED NOBODY IS DRIVING DOWN METAL RANCH THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO DRIVE DOWN METAL WRENCH. AND ALL AT ACCESS CONGAR, REAL LIKE FOREST IS MY THINKING, SIR. IT AGAIN. THAT'S AN OPINION, A DESIGN OPINION? THAT'S NOT A PROPOSAL. THAT'S UP TO YOU WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT OF DEVELOPMENT. UM THE PREVIOUS ZONING CASES THAT WE DISCUSS AND 16 VERSUS NOW, I BELIEVE THAT THE ONE THAT WE DID IN 18, WHERE THIS CASE WAS C TO KIND OF WHAT IT IS NOW. VERSUS THIS'D BEING SO A SUBURBAN OFFICE AGAIN. THAT WAS A WAY OF US REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO SAY MORE INTENSE, LESS INTENSE THAN YOU GET INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WELL, SINCE THAT WAS. NOT DONE. WE'RE NOW HERE AND NOW THREE D HAS TAKEN AN EVEN MORE COMMERCIAL CHARACTER, AND IT'S MORE INTENSE AND HENCE THE LAND USE IS REFLECTIVE OF THAT. IS MY PUT MY APPROACH. UM, I THINK THOSE WERE GENERALLY THE POINTS IN VARIOUS DIFFERENT WAYS, MR MR CHAIR UNLESS YOU JOTTED DOWN SOMETHING THAT I MAY HAVE MISSED HER. NO. YOU HAVEN'T ATTENDED USE, AND IF SO, COULD YOU JUST GIVE US A LITTLE

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DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE THOUGHTS ARE SURE WE HAVE CONCEPTUAL IDEAS OF WHAT WE MIGHT WANT TO DO THERE, AND I COULD CERTAINLY DISCUSS HIM. THE ORIGINAL INTENT THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED IS TO DO SOME COMMERCIAL RETAIL THERE AND DO SOME OFFICE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA. WHETHER IT'S A ONE STORY OR A TWO STORY BUILDING, BUT SOMETHING THAT'S VERY COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA. IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THOSE OFFICE BUILDINGS ALONG VIRGINIA GOING TOWARDS JORDAN, LIKE WE'RE DOCTOR, SAID MYERS OFFICES, ETCETERA. IT'S BASICALLY A BIG HOUSE, BUT IT'S REALLY OFFICE. CUT IT TOO, YOU KNOW, CONDOS, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT PROBABLY FITS THE BEST THERE. AND AGAIN IN ORDER TO DO THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE APPROPRIATE ZONING. ESSO APTLY IS MR DOE PUT IT IS IF NOT. JUST GONNA GO PUT WHAT WHATEVER I THINK IS THE BEST AND NO ONE CAN REALLY TELL ME NOW AND THEN WE'RE ALL GONNA BE IN HERE FIGHTING ABOUT IT. SO WHY DON'T WE JUST ESTABLISHED THE RULES NOW, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BEST THINKING SCENARIO, SIR, WHAT YOU SAID. PARDON ME, SIR. YOU HAVE BY RIGHT? BE ABLE DO COMMERCIAL ON THE NORTHERN PIECE? YES I'M BY SOMETHING. I COULD DO IT RIGHT NOW AND BUY ON THE SOUTH PROPERTY. I CAN DO OFFICE BY RIGHT. YOU HAVE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YES, SIR. TODAY. YES, THE PROBLEM IS AN AGS ONIY. THERE'S NOT VERY CLEAN BULLET LIST UP. HERE'S YOUR F ER. HERE'S YOUR SETBACK. HERE'S YOUR AMOUNT OF PARKING.

HERE'S YOUR ROUND THE TREES, IT DOESN'T EXIST. SO I'M GONNA DO IT AND JUST KIND OF GAS AT HEY, THIS IS THE BEST THING TO DO. BUT AS I SAY, WHY DON'T WE JUST ESTABLISH THE RULES NOW AND MAKE IT WORK? WHY WOULDN'T YOU DO JUST THE BACK PIECE IF YOU COULD DO IT BY RIGHT. YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE BACK PIECE AND GET THE RULES. WHY? WE'RE NOT THE ZONING, THEN THE SOUTHERN PEACE. WELL BECAUSE. IF YOU LOOK AT FOUR ACRES HERE, RIGHT? AS YOU WERE SAYING EARLIER, 20 FT SETBACK. 18 24 18 BUILDING RIGHT, AND YOU COULD FIND YOUR ENVELOPE. WE COULD ALSO DEFINE THE ENVELOPE THIS WAY. WHERE SOME RETAIL SOME RETAIL SOME OFFICE OF OFFICE. WE COULD ALSO JUST DESIGN THE ENVELOPE STRAIGHT THIS WAY. THIS IS ONE DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS ONE DEVELOPMENT AS AN EXAMPLE IN THAT SCENARIO, WE MIGHT HAVE WHERE THIS IS RETAIL AND OFFICE. LOW OFFICE ONE OR TWO STORIES, AND THIS BECOMES MAYBE TWO OR THREE STORIES, BUT IT'S ADJACENT 3 80. IT'S ADJACENT TO THE INDUSTRIAL SITE. IT REALLY IS AN ADJUSTED ANY HOME. THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE PLACE. THE THING IS WITHOUT CLEANING UP THE RULES. IT'S JUST NOT CLEAN, AND SO I WOULD RATHER JUST HAVE GOOD CLEAN RULES. TO THAT POINT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. SO IF WE APPROVE THIS ITEM, THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S TIED TO THAT. BASICALLY WE'RE APPROVING ANYTHING THAT'S ALLOWABLE WITHIN SEE, TOO, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHILE OFFICERS COME UP. WE'VE ALSO HEARD. WE'VE GOT SOME CONCEPTS.

ULTIMATELY THOUGH, WE'RE LOOKING AT A C TWO ZONE WITH NO NOTHING TIED TO THAT. CORRECT YEAH, THIS IS A STRAIGHT ZONING REQUEST. SO ANYTHING PERMISSIBLE UNDER THE SCHEDULE OF USES IN THE SEA TO DISTRICT ON INTENT THAT'S DISCUSSED TONIGHT DOESN'T NECESSARILY WOULD NECESSARILY BE CARRIED OUT. I MEAN, THEY COULD STILL BE WITHIN. YEAH BECAUSE THEY DEVELOPMENT OFFICE IS ONE OF A NUMBER OF PERMITTED USE. OTHER THINGS ARE ALLOWABLE UNDER C TWO. AND SEE TO DISTRICT THERE THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANT RETAIL. AH LOT OF OUR AUTO USES IN OUR NEW DISTRICT'S WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. AND SO THOSE WOULD HAVE TO BE EVALUATED ADDITIONAL TIME. BUT OVERALL, IT'S KIND OF. AH A MEDIUM INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USE. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF RETAIL. YOU'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF KIND OF SERVICE USES. IN THAT SCHEDULE. I THINK THAT'S FOR ME. I THINK THAT'S WRONG KIND OF HAVING HER TIME. IF WE CAN BUY RIGHT THAT THEY CAN. THEY CAN DO THIS. WE'RE ONLY GIVING THEMSELVES FROM CONFINEMENT. BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT IS JUST A STRAIGHT. IS A REASON THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TIED TO IT. SO HUH? PRESS. YEAH, THERE'S NO TIED DOWN, LAID OUT HERE OR ANYTHING. I'M IN THE STREET DISTRICT. SO COMMISSIONER AND ADD TO THAT AND NOT TO BELABOR THE POINT. AGAIN IN 18. WE CONSTRAINED OURSELVES EVEN MORE BY SAYING. C TWO THERE. S O THERE, WHICH WAS SUBURBAN OFFICE. BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A WAY OF BLENDING AND APPROPRIATELY ANY FIT WITH WHAT WE WANTED TO DO, ANYWAY. NOTHING IS REALLY CHANGED EXCEPT. BOTH IN 18. AND NOW IN 20, INSTEAD OF DOING

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WHAT WE WERE SUGGESTED AN 18 YEAR BE A PD MINIMIZE IT. FOCUS. IT. STAFF. HAD INDICATED. SIZE ADAPT WITH NATURE OF 3 80. JUST DO THE WHOLE THING. A C TWO, WHICH MAKES SENSE. IF THERE IS USES THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED WITH COMMISSIONER ESPECIALLY MR BOSS BROUGHT UP THE AUTO RELATED USES. HEY REQUIRES A CPS I'D HAVE TO BE BACK HERE AGAIN, TRYING TOW DEBATE MY CASE, BUT BE AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE ON MY SIDE OF THE TABLE. THAT'S REALLY NOT THE ICE BEST TO USE, AND THAT'S NOT WHERE MY CLIENT IS GONNA MAKE ITS MONEY. IF WE GO TOWARD AUTOMOTIVE USES, WE'D BE LOSING MONEY SO DON'T KNOW THAT THAT LAYS YOUR CONCERN, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE REALITY ON OUR SIDE. THE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. STAFF. YOU WANT. MAYBE THE STAFF. I GOT A GUN BEFORE. IF WE DO THIS TONIGHT TO MAKE IT. ONE SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WITH THIS GIVE THE MOST. HE COULD DOOM OR WITH THIS PROPERTY THAN THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AS FAR AS. SO IT IS. YEAH, I THINK THEY GAVE YOU GETTING AT S O AS WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER. THIS POOR. THIS PROPERTY HERE HAS A PD, WHICH IS BASED OFF OF THE SEA PLANTS ENTER DISTRICT, WHICH IS UM, SO THERE'S LIMITATIONS ON ALL THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY. IF WE PASS IS OWNING FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY KIND OF LIMITATIONS. OF WHAT HE COULD PUT ON THERE. SO YEAH, I MEAN, THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES DO NOT HAVE LIKE, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE PD'S OWN ING'S. THEY DO NOT HAVE TIED DOWN LAYOUTS OR ANYTHING. VETERINARY CLINIC, FOR INSTANCE. IS BASED OFF OF OUR C PLANT CENTER DISTRICT WITH SOME ADDITIONAL USES THAT SUCH AS OPEN STORAGE AZIZ PERMITTED BY RIGHT AGAIN. THAT'S PRETTY COMPARABLE WITH R C THREE DISTRICT IN OUR CURRENT ZONING SCHEDULE, SO SEE TO DESIGNATION ON THIS WOULD BE ACTUALLY LESS INTENSE THAN THE SEA PLANTS ENTER ZONING. ON THE EAST SIDE AS WELL. THEY DO HAVE A PD BASED ON AN INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, WHICH IS YOU KNOW AGAIN GOING TO BE MORE INTENSE THAN A C TO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WOULD BE OK, SO. IT'S PRETTY EVEN KILLED. THE QUESTIONS. STAFF OR OF THE APPLICANT. QUESTIONING FOR STAFF DID IT.

APPROVE THIS IS THERE A WAY TO ADD. WHERE. APPLICANT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MOVING THE GATE, ADDING NEW ENTRY WAY THAT. SANCHEZ DISCUSSED IS A WAY TO ADD THAT TO THE. REQUEST HAS AN APPROVAL. APTITUDE HOMEOWNERS WANTING IT, I THINK. PROBABLY WE NEED TO SIT DOWN. WE'D PROBABLY NEED TO WORK WITH THE AFRICAN ON EXACTLY HOW TO STRUCTURE THAT LANGUAGE, BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A PORTION OF ROADWAY THAT OR AREA THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE REZONING REQUEST. SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT RIGHT AWAY. THE GATE GETTING INSTALLED ON THAT RIGHT AWAY. SINCE WHEN. SO THE ROAD THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT PART OF THE REQUEST OR THE QUESTION BEFORE TONIGHT. ANY CHANGE IN THE WAY THE ROAD WOULD OPERATOR FUNCTION, THE FOR ANOTHER ANOTHER TIME, ANOTHER PLACE THAT IS A VALID QUESTION, THOUGH. YEAH. THE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OF STAFF FOR THE APPLICANT. OKAY? OH THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES, THANK YOU. MOMENTS. GO FIRST. I'M SCRATCHING MY HEAD ON THIS ONE.

WORK TIME HERE BEFORE US, MR ANDRE. IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU GUYS JUST DON'T DO WHAT UM, I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS. SOMETHING DOESN'T SOUND ALL RIGHT. SOMETHING DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT. THIS IS THE FOURTH TIME YOU'RE HERE. BUT YET WE'RE BEING TOLD YOU HAVE THE RIGHT AND YOU DO TO BUILD WHATEVER YOU WANT THERE. MM. I DON'T SEE WHY WE JUST KEEP COMING BACK OVER SIX YEARS. I JUST SOMETHING DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT.

NO ONE ELSE. YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING. 3 80 IS REALLY GROWN TO A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR AND I UNDER PERCENT VIEW IT AS A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. NEIGHBOR TO THE WEST. HAS EVEN MORE

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FAVORABLE ZONING. SEE? TO READ PER SE. WHATEVER THE TECHNICAL TERM THEY HAVE IS TODAY, SO THEY WERE MORE USES AND RIGHTS TO THE SAME ENTRYWAY. THAT. MR SANCHEZ IS ASKING FOR TO BE REZONED HERE. TWO MORE TO A C TO ZONING, SO TO ME, IT JUST SEEMS TO BE APPROPRIATE. THE DEPTH THAT SITE TODAY BY JUST THE ONE ON THE NORTH. WAIT WE HAVE A MUCH BETTER USE TO THE CITY LONG TERM. HAVING THE TWO COMBINED IS ONE INTO ONE ZONING. HOW IT PLAYS OUT THAT I DON'T KNOW. BUT IT'S CLEARLY IS EIGHT. IT IS A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. IT IS THEIR ENTRYWAY TO THEIR HOMES, BUT IT'S YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH CAN ALREADY. YOU COULD GO BUILD A HOTEL THERE FIVE STORY HOTEL TODAY UNDER UNDER THE USES. IT JUST IT CONTINUING THE CORRIDOR. YEAH, I'M IN FAVOR OF EXAMINING OF RETURNING TO SEE TO RIGHT ANYONE ELSE? I WOULD JUST FEEL A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE. IF WE GET CONSIDER TABLE IN THIS ISSUE. HAVING SOME MORE DIALOGUE BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE HOMEOWNERS. HOW I WOULD FEEL LIKE COMING.

AND I WOULD I COULD GET WITH TABLE, BUT I'LL ALSO SAY SO. I COULD AGREE TO THAT. BUT I'M ALSO WITH I'M COMMISSIONER DOUG. THERE'S I JUST HAD. I STILL HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. THEY DON'T SO I DON'T THINK I COULD. HAD SUPPORTED. ANYONE ELSE? MM HMM. ALL RIGHT.

THE ORIGINAL I DO THINK THIS IS BETTER THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY BUILT. ON THE PROPERTY. JUST READING SOME OF MY NOTES. THE PROPERTY HAS. THE OWNER HAS EVEN BOUGHT THE PROPERTY TO BE THE BUFFER TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I. JUST A THE END. I WAS JUST QUESTIONING. THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE PROPERTY. I THOUGHT I'D BE BALL ONE OFFICE WHERE. I MEAN, WE'RE HERE FOR ZONING AND I JUST I JUST DON'T KNOW. ARE YOU AGAIN? AGREE WITH MR DOE. IF YOU COULD BUILD IT. I MEAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE HERE TO REZONE THE WHOLE THING. UH, THE OTHER PART. YOU'RE COMING THAT AGREED TO THIS REZONING IS. IT WAS THE SMOKE. I MEAN, JUST TO MAKE A BIGGER LOT FOR COMMERCIAL USE ON THE FRONTAGE OF YOU NEVER UNIVERSITY I THOUGHT IF THIS WAS ALL OFFICE, IT WOULD BE IDEAL, BUT IF THERE IS GONNA BE. DIVIDED LIKE IT IS CURRENTLY I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY I AGREE WITH TABLE AND THEN AGREE WITH I MEAN AND I'VE GOT QUESTIONS AS WELL. WHEN YOU LOOK OUT THE SURROUNDING AREA AND LOOK AT THE EXISTING ZONING IN THE EXISTING ALLOWED USES. THE CHANGE THAT IS BEING REQUESTED HIS APPROPRIATE AND FITS IN WITH WHAT'S THERE, EVEN SURROUNDING TO THE TO THE EAST INTO THE SOUTHEAST. SUPPORT THE APPLICANT REQUEST AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. SO THE COMMENT IS THIS THOUGH? I DON'T DISAGREE THAT 3 80 IS A COMMERCIAL QUARTER. I DON'T DISAGREE THAT THIS PROBABLY WOULD MAKE IT VERY GOOD COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. JUST STILL STRUGGLING WITH THE FACT THAT IT'S COME BEFORE US NOW FOUR TIMES AND IT JUST. AT THE END OF THE DAY, SOMETHING DOES NOT SMELL RIGHT HERE. AND. YOU DO A GREAT JOB, MR SANCHEZ OF BEING ABLE TO TELL THE STORY. NO, I DON'T NEED TO STAND UP. I'M GONNA COME IN HERE. I'M TELLING A GREAT STORY, BUT THAT GREAT STORY IS NOT CARING ACROSS TO THE RESIDENCE. AND THAT IS MY BIGGEST FEAR RIGHT NOW.

SOMETHING JUST DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT. WE APPROVE IT. THAT POINT. THIS IS A ZONE IN CASE.

WHAT GETS BUILT THERE? I THINK IS THE RESIDENTS BIGGEST CONCERN, AND IT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN. I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. BUT IN REALITY YOU CAN'T AND MR ANDRE CANNOT GUARANTEE WHAT'S GONNA BE BUILT THERE. WE'RE JUST GIVING YOU A GOLDEN TICKET TO DO IT BY

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PROVEN AND THAT'S JUST MY PET. BUT I THINK WHAT HE'S DOING WELL, HE SAYS. HE CAN DO WHAT HE'S ASKING TO DO. HE'S TYING DOWN SOME GUIDELINES AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. THE PROPERTY, SO IT'S NOT THE WILD WILD WEST, AND HE DOES HAVE SOME CONTROL AND SOME GUIDELINES OF WHAT CAN AND WHAT CAN'T BE OUT THERE. BORROW YOUR PHRASE. THAT'S MY OPINION. I DON'T KNOW. AND YOU HAD ME. OR APPROVAL UNTIL YOU START DIVIDING IT UP. HAVEN'T COMMERCIAL AT 3 80, THEN OFFICE IN THE BACK. THAT'S WHEN I STARTED QUESTIONING. HUH? I MEAN, YOU'RE ON 3 80. THERE SHOULD BE A COMMERCIAL RIGHT THERE. IN OFFICE WOULD WOULD HAVE, IN MY OPINION, BEEN IDEALS. JUST TO KEEP THE TRAFFIC COUNT NOW. DID NOT. ONE MORE THANK YOU FRIED CHICK. OCEANS MORE CONVERSATION. I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DO NOT APPROVE. THAT WE DENY. THERE'S ONLY REQUEST THAT IS MY MOTION. SECOND. MOTION AH, MR DOE TO DENY THE APPLICANT REQUEST. SECOND BIMES, KIRK AND ALL. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DISCUSSION, I MEAN, JUST ASK THE QUESTION IS THERE. ANY REASON TO GO BACK AND ALLOW. SANCHEZ AND THE HOMEOWNER IN THE LANDOWNER TO GO BACK AND HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS WITH OWNERS. WE COULD NARROW DOWN. I DON'T OPPOSE THAT HAPPENING, BUT IT APPEARS THAT WITH BEING THE FOURTH TIME HERE BUT IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE. OF EFFORT HAS BEEN MADE BY BOTH SIDES. I THINK THAT THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN THE ESSENCES OF ANOTHER HOME ALONE NOW. IS A BUFFER. THERE'S SOMETHING YOU KNOW THREE EGGS ACTUALLY GROWN SO THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN THREE YEARS. JUST WONDER IF THERE'S A WAY TO HELP NARROW THE GAP, WHERE. WE COULD SEE SOMETHING POTENTIALLY BETTER BUILT. THAT HARD CORNER BECAUSE. THEY COULD BUILD SOMETHING TODAY MIGHT NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE ASKING WHERE THE HOMEOWNERS WANT, AND THERE'S JUST ONE AND IF THERE'S A WAY TO HELP BRIDGE THAT GAP. NO. MR WILEY BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT. AND DAN, YOU DID TO, AS WELL. HOW MUCH ENGAGEMENT HAS THERE BEEN? WITH WITH EVERYBODY. I DON'T KNOW. I'LL DO THIS. I'LL REMOVE MY MOTION. OKAY I'LL PULL THE MOTION BACK.

LET'S HAVE SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION. OKAY, SO STUDIO WITHDRAWS HIS MOTION.

DISCUSSION DO IT, UM JENNIFER DUTY TO VOTE ON THAT. DO NOT BELIEVE THAT UGO PIECE WITHDRAWN THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE WITHDRAWN YOUR MOTION DISCUSSION. OPEN THIS A BIT, SO I'M OKAY IF WE IF WE TABLE IT TO ALLOW FOR THAT DISCUSSION TO HAPPEN. PROVIDED THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS AND WERE SEVERAL YEARS INTO THIS. AND SO IF WE TABLE THE ITEM TO THE NEXT MEETING, OR, HOWEVER, THAT THAT WORKS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING MORE QUESTIONS ANSWERED. BOND MOVING, MOVING FORWARD WHEN IF AND WHEN THIS COMES BACK UP, THAT'S A YES OR NO QUESTION.

WAS THERE A MEETING? WAS A PRODUCTIVE. BE SURE IN WHAT WAS THE OUTCOMES, RIGHT? RIGHT.

OKAY, HAVING SAID ALL OF THAT. LOOK TO THIS SIDE OF THE TABLE NOW. EMOTION TOE. YOU GUYS WANT A WITH THE AUTUMN HERE? YEAH. MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THE ITEM. OKAY? I DON'T KNOW HOW IS THERE A TIME FRAME? WE NEED TO GIVE THEM YES, AND I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS FOR TABLE NG ONE. YOU COULD TABLE TO A DATE CERTAIN THE OTHER STABLING INDEFINITELY IF WE TABLE TO A DATE, CERTAIN STAFF WOULD ASK THAT THAT NEXT THE NEXT PNC MEETING. BE THAT DATE CERTAIN. IF NOT, WE WOULD WANT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND RE NOTICE IT. BUT.

YES, I AM PERFECTLY OKAY WITH THE DATE CERTAIN THE NEXT P AND C MEETING. I THINK THAT GIVES US AND A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS ARE HERE. SO I AM OPENLY AND ON THE RECORD. OFFERING LET'S MEET AND LET'S TALK. WE CAN MEET AT SOMEBODY'S HOUSE. WE COULD MEET AT CITY HALL. WE COULD MEET AT THE LIBRARY. WE COULD MEET IN MY OFFICE IF YOU IF YOU'D LIKE. I MEAN, WE COULD GO SO YOU'RE

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IN FAVOR OF THEM INTO THE NEXT MEETING. YES SIR. ABSOLUTELY OF COURSE, I THINK THAT'S CORRECT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TOL TABLE THIS GENTLEMAN TO THE NEXT MEETING. THINK EMOTION BY MR WATERS. OCTOBER THE ADAM UNTIL THE NEXT SCHEDULE, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND BY MR WATLEY. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR CLARIFICATION ON THE MOTION, SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN TERRIBLE THE ADAM UNTIL THE NEXT SCHEDULED TEENSY MEETING. ALL RIGHT. NOBODY GOOD. HE'S CAST YOUR VOTES. WORD? YES. WE WILL NEED TO. WE'LL NEED A REAL NEED TO REOPEN IT AND THEN CONTINUING LOOK THE NEXT. THE MOTION IS TOO WILL NEED TO REOPEN IT TONIGHT. IF NOT, WE'LL HAVE TO RE NOTICE IT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. EVERY MOTION MANAGED TO DOPE TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. FOR ITEM TO ONE DAY. 005 XENA, SECOND MY WAS KIRK AND ALL WESTERN DISCUSSION. HE'S CAST YOUR VOTES. THE MOTION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

PASSES NOW. WHO WAS IT? MR. IS ME TOWARD DRIFTER MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE. THIS AGENDA ITEM TO THE NEXT PNC MEETING AND WILL CONTINUE TO CONTINUE TO PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY, EMOTIONAL, MR WOODRUFF TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE OVER THE AUTUMN TILL THE NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MEETING SECOND BY MR WATLEY. ANY MORE DISCUSSION.

ALL RIGHT, CAST YOUR VOTES. THIS MOTION CARRIES IN THIS AUTUMN HAS BEEN TABLED UNTIL THE NEXT REGULAR PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MISS ARNOLD, WHICH IS WHEN EVERYWHERE. THE 23RD FEBRUARY 23RD. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM, EVERYBODY GOOD. VERY GOOD TO

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit Request to Allow for a Self-Storage Facility (Virginia Self Storage), Located on the North Side of Virginia Parkway and Approximately 515 Feet West of Jordan Road]

ZERO DEAD ZEROES ISSUE P. SHE CAN'T. 20.10 ISSUED A PUBLIC HEARING THE REQUEST. TO CONSIDER A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR SO STORES FACILITATE VIRGINIA SELF STORAGE. NORTH SIDE OF VIRGINIA PARKWAY, 500 FT. WEST OF GORDON ROAD. EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

LOOK JOE GAVE ME SUCH A SHARK. WHO HAD YOU HERE? I'LL BE STEPPING DOWN FOR THIS ITEM, OKAY? OKAY, WE'RE GOOD. SO YOU'RE SURE, BUDDY, OKAY? THANKS. UM. EVENING THIS SITE IS LOCATED ON VIRGINIA PARKWAY, JUST OFF OF JORDAN ROAD BETWEEN THAT AND BONNIE WINK PARK. THE SITE IS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE IMAGINE ACADEMY AND NEXT TO THE EXISTING SERVICE FIRST. SO LOOK AT THE SITE. SURROUNDINGS. APPLICANT IS REQUESTING SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A 61,500 SQUARE FOOT SELF STORAGE FACILITY. THE PROPOSED LAYOUT MEET CITY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. STAFF DID NOT FIND ANY CONFLICTS IN THE PROPOSED USE WITH THE ADJACENT LAND USES, AND AS SUCH, WE DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST. I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS LIKE A JOE THEIR QUESTIONS. OK SAM, IS THERE ANY OF THIS PROPERTY AND THE HERE. YOUR FLAT FLOOD PLAIN. I DO BELIEVE THERE IS SOME FLOODPLAIN ALONG THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY, AND I KNOW THAT OUR ENGINEERING TEAM HAS LOOKED AT THIS LAYOUT AND SAID THAT IT WOULD IT WOULD CONFORM WITH THEIR REQUIREMENTS SO THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY KIND OF THIS DIRECTION AND FLOOD.

CORRECT YEAH, I KNOW. I KNOW. THEY'VE LOOKED AT THIS AND THEY SIGNED OFF ON WHERE THE BUILDING IS PROPOSED TO BE LOCATED. WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS. GOOD JOB. THANK YOU. SO AFRICAN HERE TONIGHT. YOU GOT THE LUCKY DRAW, HUH? THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JOHN DAVID CROSS WITH CROSS ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS 17 20, WEST VIRGINIA PARKWAY HERE IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS. I'M ACTUALLY NOT THE APPLICANTS, BUT I'M ON THE TEAM ON THE SILL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT AND. I'VE WORKED

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WITH DON GASKINS FOR ABOUT 12 YEARS, DON IS THE OWNER. ORIGINALLY OWNED ALL THE LAND IN THIS AREA AND DEVELOPED THE IMAGINE CHARTER SCHOOL. AND WE'VE LOOKED AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT USES FOR THIS BUILDING OVER THE YEARS AND THE MAIN. THING WE NEED HERE IS A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO THE SCHOOL. WHAT WE HAVE IS A NEIGHBOR THAT'S GOOD LOOKING IS QUIET AND DOESN'T GENERATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC, AND THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD NEIGHBOR. UM. THIS WAY. I THINK IT'S A GREAT MATCH WITH THE SCHOOL, THE ARCHITECTURE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS. VERY COMPLIMENTARY TO THE CHARTER SCHOOL ON GUARD. WE THINK IT'S A GOOD A GOOD USE AND A GOOD JUST. A GOOD FIT FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND WE HAVE A VERY, VERY LONG PRESENTATION THAT THE.

THE ARCHITECT AND THE DEVELOPERS HAVE PUT TOGETHER ON THERE. THEY'RE ALL HERE IN THE IN THE AUDIENCE WITH US DON DON IS HERE AND THE ARCHITECT AND THE DEVELOPERS AND THEY'RE READY TO GO. I PRESENT TO YOU IF YOU'D LIKE. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT AND YOU'VE HAD IT.

SIT THROUGH A VERY DIFFICULT ZONING CASE AND WAY THINK WE'VE BROUGHT YOU A VERY EASY ZONING CASE. AND SO WE'RE GONNA POSTPONE THEN UNLESS IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. THE QUESTIONS OF MR CROSS. SO GREAT AT THE SCHOOL GAVE YOU A LOT OF RECOMMENDATION. YES, AND ONE OF HERE, YOU KNOW, WERE THERE PIG, BIG MY BULLET POINT THAT READ TO ME WAS, YOU KNOW AESTHETICALLY GONNA LINE YOU DESIGNING YOUR BUILDING WITH THE REST OF THE BUILDINGS IN THE AREA. AND WHILE WE CAN'T MAKE YOU DO THAT, TO START OF CURIOSITIES WANNA CONFIRM THAT THAT'S THE GAME PLAN BECAUSE IT'S THEY REALLY RIGHT, ENSURE THE FACILITY AESTHETICALLY ALIGNS WITH THE CURRENT BUILDINGS. WITHIN THE PROXIMITY OF THE PROS DEVELOPED PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. TRYING TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE THE GOOD NEIGHBOR THAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO PROTECT ITS A GREAT ADDITION TO OUR OWN COMMUNITY HERE THAT SCHOOL YES. THE QUESTIONS OF MR CROSS.

GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I CUTE EYES. YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE MR CROSS SAID THE LENGTHY PRESENTATION THAT THE AFRICAN IS PUT TOGETHER OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED KNOWING WE HAVE THAT IF WE NEEDED OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SIX LIKE YOU HAVEN'T THAT LINK.

WITH THAT. LOOK QUITE WELL. HAVE YOU SEEN IT? HELP. OKAY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT AND WOULD LIKE TO, WEIGH IN ON THIS PROPOSED FTP REQUEST. HE'S COME TO THE PODIUM. YEAH. SURE MAKE A MOTION. WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVED THIS ITEM.

OKAY MY MR CALLED CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ANIMUS FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

SECOND. TAKEN BY MR DOPE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HE'S CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES AND WILL BE SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FOR FINE ELECTION AT THE MARCH. SECOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING. YOU'RE ONE STEP CLOSER, MR CROSS EXCELLENT JOB. MR ARNOLD, THAT IS OUR LAST TIME. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR US? I JUST WANTED

[COMMISSION AND STAFF COMMENTS]

TOL. WELCOME CAITLIN STRICKLIN AS SHE IS JOINING THE CITY MCKINNEY AS OUR NEW PLANNING MANAGER OVER CURRENT PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEWS, SHE I GOT HER FIRST REAL TASTE OF A P NZ MEETING TONIGHT. SO SHE'LL START TOC SLOWLY TRANSITION TO SOME OF THE ROLE THAT I'VE BEEN PLAYING HERE WITH THE COMMISSION AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HER. WELCOME TO MY KIDNEY. MEMBERS. ANY COMMENTS. WE DO HAVE BEFORE YOU HOP UP. WE NEED TO TAKE A PICTURE FOR EVERYONE. STAY IN YOUR POSITIONS. STAFF THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING. HAIL AND WELCOME. WE NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN, MAKE A MOTION TO IT TO MCCALL. SECOND BY MR WOODROOF.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. THIS RAIN MADE 15 WHERE ARE ADJOURNED?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.