Feb 23, 2021 Planning & Zoning Commission on 2021-02-23 6:00 PM

[CALL TO ORDER]

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COMMISSION MEETING OF TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 23RD 2021. COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU SEE SEATED BEFORE YOU HAVE BEEN APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL WHEN WE SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THAT SAME CITY COUNCIL. NOT IF AN ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. WE WILL ADVISE THE AUDIENCE. HERE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM. WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN IT'S TIME TO COME TO THE PODIUM. SOMEONE WAS MAY NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACKS AND THAT WILL BE SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. WITH A RECOMMENDATION FROM PLANNING AND ZONING. WE DO APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THOSE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE AND IN THE FOUR YEAR AND WATCHING ON TV, YOUR INPUT IS IMPORTANT. AND YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN THE PROCESS MAKES IT ALL WORK. IF YOU DO PLAN ON COMING TO THE PODIUM TONIGHT AND SPEAKING ON AN ITEM, PLEASE FILL OUT ONE OF THE CARDS. THAT ARE LOCATED ON THE TABLE OUTSIDE THE ROOM. IT WAS YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS THE ITEM YOU'RE SPEAKING ON. YOU COME TO THE PODIUM WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS.

YOUR CONCERNS. AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE THREE MINUTES IS UP, YOU'LL HEAR A BUZZER. WE DO APPRECIATE YOU STICKING WITH THAT SCHEDULE. WE DO HAVE WHAT IS A MODERN DAY FOR ROOM? OF SOME 20 SOME ODD PEOPLE. AGAIN IF YOU DO PLAN ON SPEAKING WITH SPEAK, CONCISE IN YOUR COMMENTS TO BE RESPECTFUL, RESPECTFUL OF EACH OTHER. AND WE'LL MAKE IT HOME UNDER THESE AN HOUR TONIGHT, THE FIRST ITEM WILL BE UM THAN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO SPEAK. IF THEY'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT AN ITEM THAT DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. OR A COMMENT OR TWO ON THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK TONIGHT ON AN ITEM THAT DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED? ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL BE MOVING ON.

[Director’s Report]

[CONSENT ITEMS]

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District, “AG” - Agricultural District, and “CC” - Corridor Commercial Overlay District to "C2" - Local Commercial District and “CC” - Corridor Commercial Overlay District, Located on the Southeast Corner of U.S. Highway 380 (University Drive) and Meadow Ranch Road (REQUEST TO BE TABLED)]

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MOM'S KIRK IN ALL TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN TABLE THE ITEM UNTIL MARCH 9 2ND 2ND AMOUNTS TO WHAT LEAVES THERE. ANY DISCUSSION. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. MOTION CARRIES OUT OF HUSBAND TABLE UNTIL MARCH, 9. EXCITING IS TO ONE DAY ZERO Z, A PUBLIC HEARING REQUEST TO

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Zone the Subject Property to “SF5” - Single Family Residential District, Located on the Southeast Quadrant of North Hardin Boulevard and Olympic Crossing Boulevard (County Road No. 228)]

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THANK YOU, MR ARNOLD. HE'S CAST YOUR VOTES. WHAT THIS MOTION CARRIES AND WHAT WE SENT TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ELECTION AT THE MARCH 16 2020 MEETING. THE NEXT TIME TO ONE DASH

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Zone the Subject Property to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to Modify the Development Standards and to Allow Single Family Residential Uses, Located Approximately 1,300 Feet East of County Road 943 and on the South Side of Bloomdale Road]

THIS PROPERTY IS ALSO LOCATED IN THE E T. J. S SO THAT I DID BEFORE YOU IS TO ZONE THE PROPERTY, INDEXATION AND ZONING REQUEST WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL. BUT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO ZONE PROXIMITY. SIX ACRES FOR SINGLE FAMILY USES WITH IT'S A MODIFIED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS INCLUDED IN THE STONING REQUESTS WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BY CITY COUNCIL AND DEFENSE ON DECEMBER 2020. NO OTHER DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS ARE BEING REQUESTED AT THIS TIME OR MODIFICATIONS FROM THAT. THOSE REGULATIONS AND THAT AGREEMENT. STAFF IS OF THE OPINION THAT THERE'S ONLY REQUEST WE'LL COMPARE CREATE A COMPATIBLE QUALITY DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA AND AS SUCH STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE OPPOSING REZONING REQUEST, AND I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, CAITLIN QUESTIONS IT'S THE DENSITY. CERTAINLY S O THE DENSITY. CURRENTLY THE REQUEST IS TO ZONE TWO S F FIVE, WHICH HAS A DENSITY OF 3.2 UNITS TO THE ACRE. THE APPLICANTS REQUESTING A MODIFICATION TO INCREASE THAT TO SEVEN UNITS TO THE ACRE. IT DOESN'T LINE WITH THE CURRENT ZONING OF URBAN FARMS THAT ALLOWS THAT SEVEN UNITS TO THE SEEKER SO THAT'S WHY STAFF IS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT REQUEST. NO ONE ELSE. THANK YOU, MR TAYLOR. EYES. THEY'RE AFRICAN HERE TONIGHT. NOT BELIEVE SO KNOWS, OKAY? THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU'RE HERE DENIED AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PROPOSED. ZONING OF THIS PROPERTY. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE. WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC CARING AND PROVE THE ITEM FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. OPEN IN ACCORDANCE WITH DEVELOPMENT REGULATION. OCEANO MR MAN'S IDEA PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE AUTUMN. AS FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION, SUBJECT TO THE PROPERTY DEVELOPING IN THE COURTS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. 2ND 2ND BY MR DOAKES THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HE'S CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES AND WILL BE SENT TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION. FOR FINAL ACTION AT THE MARCH 16 2021 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. NEXT ITEM IS 20-0 Z, A PUBLIC HEARING REQUEST REZONE A SUBJECT

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “AG” - Agricultural District, “PD” - Planned Development District and “REC” - Regional Employment Center Overlay District to “PD” - Planned Development District, to Allow for Multi-Family Residential and Commercial Uses and to Modify the Development Standards, Located 550 Feet South of Stonebridge Drive and on the East Side of Custer Road]

SOUTH OF STONEBRIDGE DRIVE ON THE EAST SIDE OF CUSTER ROAD, SKIP. ALL RIGHT BEFORE I GET STARTED HERE. I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT I DID PASS OUT A LETTER OF SUPPORT THAT WE RECEIVED. TODAY THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE CITY COUNCIL PACKETS FOR THEIR REVIEW. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 38.8 ACRES OF LAND GENERALLY TO LAUGH FOR COMMERCIAL AND MULTI FAMILY USES. I DO WANT TO MENTION A SIMILAR REQUEST WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THE POINTING OF 30 COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL IN 2019 AND 2020 THAT WAS ULTIMATELY WITHDRAWN BY THAT APPLICANT. THIS NEW REQUEST INCLUDES THE SAME USES.

HOWEVER, THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS HAVE BEEN MODIFIED. MORE SPECIFICALLY, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING MULTI FAMILY PRODUCT THAT LOOKS AND FEELS SIMILAR TO A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. IT IS ALSO PROPOSING MODIFICATIONS TO THE PARKING AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS. RIGHT. SO FOR TRACKED A THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE

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SO. THERE ARE 10 DECISION MAKING CRITERIA THAT ARE AT YOUR DISCRETION. COUNSEL'S DISCRETION ALONG WITH THE ON THE GROUND RIGHT CHARACTERISTICS THAT ABSOLUTELY CAN COME INTO PLAY, BUT WITH THEIR STAFF SITS ON. THESE WERE REALLY BOUND BY WHAT THAT POLICY DOCUMENT AND THE CHARGE THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN FOR THAT PRESERVATION FOR COMMERCIAL ON DON RESIDENTIAL TAX BASE, SO THAT'S WHERE I RECOMMENDATION COMES FROM. IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T IGNORE SOME OF THE SITE CONSTRAINTS IN THOSE OTHER ITEMS. HOWEVER WE ARE WE FEEL THAT'S NOT REALLY AT OUR DISCRETION TO SORT OF PLAY INTO WHERE THAT RECOMMENDATION COMES FROM. HE TURNED DOWN A REQUEST ON THIS LAND, OR I DON'T KNOW, BUT TURNED DOWN OR WITH WAS DRAWN. ANYWAY WE WERE PRESENTED A REQUEST ON THIS LAND, PREVIOUSLY WITH THREE TRACKS WON'T BE IN COMMERCIAL THE FRONT IN THE THREE TO THE CENTER. IN OFFICE TO THE BACK.

THAT'S CORRECT, AND I BELIEVE AT THAT TIME THE RESIDENTS WERE NOT FOR THAT. YES, WE RECEIVED THIS TIME. LETTERS OF SUPPORT LATE. FOR THE BACK PART FOR UH, WOULD NORMALLY BE TRACKED.

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YOU. WON ISLAND. THANK YOU, SIR. AFRICAN HERE TONIGHT? YES. YEAH. PLEASE. TAKE THIS UP TO SPEAK, AND IT'S ALL RIGHT. RIGHT, CLAY ROBY 4145 TRAVIS, DALLAS, TEXAS 75204 WAS STILL WATER CAPITAL, THE DEVELOPER ON THE PROJECT, HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION HERE. I'LL TRY TO BE QUICK TO LITTLE BIT OF TIME FOR QUESTIONS. OBVIOUSLY THE IMAGE HERE OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT. SO I WON'T READ THIS OUT SPECIFICALLY STILLWATER CAPITAL SPENDING IN 2006 WE HAVE ABOUT 70 EMPLOYEES THROUGHOUT TEXAS. QUITE A LARGE TEAM OF ABOUT 70 PEOPLE. SOME OF OUR PROJECTS CURRENTLY ALL OVER TEXAS. WE HAVE A BASE OF OPERATIONS IN PHOENIX AND COLORADO AS WELL. THE COMPANY. STILL WATER HAS A NUMBER OF PLATFORMS THAT WE OPERATE ONE OF OUR PLATFORMS IS A SINGLE FAMILY. CUSTOM HOME BUILDING BUSINESSES IS NOT A LARGE SCALE KIND OF PRODUCTION BUILDER PER SE. THIS IS A ONE OFF CUSTOM HOME BUILDING BUSINESS. TYPICAL PRICE POINT FOR THESE HOMES GENERALLY IS 2 TO $4 MILLION. I'VE PUT UP A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES HERE OF RECENTLY COMPLETED PROJECTS IN NORTH TEXAS. WE ALSO HAVE A VERY LARGE TRADITIONAL MULTI FAMILY BUSINESS HERE. SOME RECENT PROJECTS THROUGHOUT TEXAS AND COLORADO SHOWING SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME RECENTLY COMPLETED WORK. SPECIFICALLY FOR THE USE OF HAND. THE REASON I SHOW THESE PREVIOUS IMAGES WHAT WE WANTED TO DO, I'M SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE THE ROOM ARE FAMILIAR WITH COTTAGE RESIDENTIAL. IN THAT CONCEPT. IT'S OBVIOUSLY BEEN IMPLEMENTED. IN TOWN BEFORE WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS TAKE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT APPROACH, UTILIZING OUR SINGLE FAMILY CUSTOM HOME BUILDING BUSINESS, OUR FAMILIARITY WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT MARKET, THE LAYOUT SAY, LOOK FORWARD THE FINISHES THE AMENITIES AND TRY TO APPLY THAT THINKING TOO HIGH END. CAUGHT HIS DISTRICT'S LIKE BEING PROPOSED TODAY. WE HAVE A SERIES OF BOTH IN HOUSE AND THIRD PARTY CONSULTANTS, ARCHITECTS, DESIGN TEAMS, LANE PLANNERS, LANDSCAPE TEAMS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WE CAME UP WITH A STRATEGY THAT IS ESSENTIALLY A SERIOUS OF 12 AND THREE BEDROOM COTTAGES. I'VE SHOWN SOME MASSING STUDIES HERE TO HIGHLIGHT THE GENERAL OUTLOOK OF THOSE PROPERTIES. COUPLE THINGS TO POINT OUT OVERSIZED FROM BEDROOM WINDOWS, LIKE YOU WOULD TYPICALLY SEE IN CUSTOM HOMES. ARTICULATED FACADES WHERE IT'S NOT A FLAT FRONT BUILDING. YOU HAVE VARYING SETBACKS FOR VARYING SPACES TO GIVE THE BUILDING A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A BREATHER WILL LOOK AND FEEL ALL OF OUR UNITS HAVE FRONT PORCHES SO YOU COULD SEE THAT HERE OUTLINED HARD TO SEE WITH THE FRONT VIEWS HERE. WE ALSO HAVE PRIVATE FENCED YARDS AT THE REAR OF EACH ONE OF OUR PROJECTS, EACH ONE OF THE COTTAGES ITSELF. SOME DESIGN FEATURES LIKE SOME OF THE CORNICE IS GOING UP TOWARDS THE TOP OF THE PEAKS OF THE ROOST THERE, JUST DESIGN DETAILS THAT MAKE THESE FEEL QUITE PLEASANT, FRANKLY. WE ALSO CHANGE THE MATERIALS WERE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE EXACT MATERIAL SELECTIONS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, BUT JUST THE HIGHLIGHTS AND THINKING HERE WE DO APPLY VERY MATERIALS TEACH ONE OF THE UNITS SO IN ADDITION TO VARYING SIZES WHERE YOU'VE GOT AGAIN. 12 AND THREE BEDROOM. WE HAVE ATTACHED GARAGES. FOR SOME. WE HAVE STREET PARKING FOR OTHERS. WE ALSO VERY THE BUILDING MATERIALS JUST TO PROVIDE SENSE OF, UM OR, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CUSTOM NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M NOT SURE THIS IS NECESSARILY GONNA WORK. IF YOU GIVE THIS A TRY, MAYBE JUST CLICK IT FORWARD HERE. SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS JUST SHOW WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO WALK DOWN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. WE TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN CREATING COMMUNITY. IT'S STILL WATER. WE HAVE A VERY LARGE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PLATFORM THAT BUILDS LARGE. MIXED USE COMMUNITIES ALL OVER NORTH TEXAS. HOW IT FEELS WHEN YOU WALK OUT YOUR FRONT DOOR, YOU KNOW, TAKE YOUR DOG FOR A WALK. WALK WITH YOUR SPOUSE, YOU KNOW, GET YOUR KIDS OUTSIDE FOR A LITTLE BIT. TRY TO DO THAT ONE MORE TIME WHERE WE'RE TALKING HERE. YOU KNOW STREET TREES, SETBACKS, LANDSCAPING. PARALLEL PARKING IS OPPOSED TO HEAD IN PARKING. YOU KNOW, ALL THESE THINGS MAKE FOR A BETTER COMMUNITY FEEL MORE INDICATIVE OF TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY.

SO THESE ARE THE TYPES OF IMAGES THAT WE SHARE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD H A WAYS WHEN WE WERE MEETING WITH THEM. THIS IS YOU KNOW, DRAWN TO FORM FOR THE ACTUAL PROJECT HERE, SO IT FULL BUILD OUT. THIS IS GENERALLY SPEAKING THE LOOK AND FEEL OBVIOUSLY, THE MATERIAL, YOU KNOW PALATES IN THE ACTUAL SELECTIONS HAVEN'T BEEN OVER LATE HERE, BUT IS YOUR PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DELIVER ON THE SITE. EVERYONE'S OBVIOUSLY FAMILIAR WITH WHERE WE ARE HERE. I WANTED TO POINT OUT A COUPLE THINGS BECAUSE IT CAME OUT A MINUTE AGO ABOUT PREVIOUS SONY APPLICATIONS. OBVIOUSLY HAVING GOTTEN TO KNOW THE EXISTING LANDOWNERS QUITE EXTENSIVELY, THERE IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT DOES DESIGNATE THIS IS A DIFFERENT USE. FROM EXPERIENCE THAT LANDOWNER LOOKED EXTENSIVELY FOR OFFICE USERS

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THE OFFICE TYPE USE WAS UNSUCCESSFUL IN ATTRACTING OFFICE USERS OR OFFICE TYPE INVESTORS. TO PURSUE THE TRACK AND SO THEY PIVOTED TO RESIDENTIAL A COUPLE YEARS AGO THAT LED TO THE J P. I CASE, YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO US, WHICH WAS OBVIOUSLY MET WITH STRONG RESISTANCE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, H AWAYS, LOCAL RESIDENTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, SO WAS ULTIMATELY PULLED BACK. WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE PROJECT, THERE ARE SOME INTERESTING NUANCES HERE. THERE'S VERY LITTLE ACCESS OFF OF CUSTER ROAD, GIVEN THE BRIDGE ON THE NATURAL GAS STATION, THAT'S THERE, SO IT CREATES A BIT OF A PINCH POINT. GETTING INTO THE SITE. THERE'S A LARGE UTILITY EASEMENT THROUGH THE SITE. YOU HAVE RELIC CREEK. YOU HAVE SOME IRREGULARITIES IN TERMS OF THE BOUNDARY BORDER. YOU HAVE TO CROSS THE CREEK TO GET TO THAT USED TO BE PARTIAL THREE YEAR SEE PARCEL ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. SO IT'S QUITE TRICKY. FINDING A WAY TO DO A LARGE FOOTPRINT, YOU KNOW, PROJECT HERE IS DIFFICULT, AND SO WE REALLY STARTED LOOKING AT IT MORE FOR THE COTTAGE PRODUCT AS IT ALLOWS YOU TO MEANDER YOUR STREETS, SO IF YOU HAVE IRREGULARITIES DO YOU HAVE THESE MEN ISSUES? IF YOU HAVE CREAKS, THOSE CONGEE BECOME AMENITIES AND ENHANCEMENTS TO THE PROJECT WITH A SMALL FOOTPRINT BUILDING THESE COTTAGES VERSUS WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO DO A LARGE FOOTPRINT BUILDING. A TRADITIONAL LARGE OFFICE BUILDING OR LARGE, MULTI FAMILY BUILDING. THOSE COULD BECOME QUITE CHALLENGING, SO THAT'S WHY WE PIVOTED TOWARDS THE COTTAGE STYLE FOR THIS PROJECT. THIS USE HAS BROAD SUPPORT FOR FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AS I MENTIONED WE'VE MAINTAINED COMMERCIAL USE ON CUSTER ROAD TO ALLOW SOME PORTION OF THE PROJECT TO BE UTILIZED FOR COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION. THEN WE'VE TAKEN THE BALANCE OF THE SIDE KIND OF EAST OF THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL AND IDENTIFIED THAT IS THE COTTAGE RESIDENTIAL PROJECT. TERMS OF BLOCK BUILDING A LITTLE BIT OF A REFERENCE POINT FOR THE VIDEO THAT I SHOWED A MINUTE AGO JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME INSIGHT INTO HOW WE LAY THESE PROJECTS OUT. WE PUT THE LARGER TWO AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS UP AGAINST THE STREET WITH PARALLEL PARKING. THIES AIR BROAD UNITS. YOU KNOW SOME OF THESE UNITS OR 60 65 70 FT WIDE. THAT'S QUITE A LARGE RIGHT IF YOU COMPARE THAT TO SINGLE FAMOUS QUITE A LARGE UNIT, THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE IT DOES CREATE THE TRADITIONAL MORE OF A TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY. NEIGHBORHOOD FEEL WITH THE PARALLEL PARKING STREETS OUT IN FRONT AND THEN WE TAKE THE SMALLER UNITS AND PUT THEM INTERNAL TO THOSE JUST AGAIN.

THE LOOK AND FEEL THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS IMPORTANT AND KEEPING THOSE STREETS. AS MUCH OF A SINGLE FAMILY FEEL IT'S POSSIBLE IS QUITE ATTRACTIVE TO US AND IN OUR TENANTS. WE DO OFFER GARAGE PARKING. YOU CAN SEE A COUPLE OF DRIVE INS HERE. WE HAVE GARAGES ATTACHED. WE ALSO HAVE SURFACED PARKING I MEAN, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, EVERY SINGLE UNIT DOES HAVE A FRONT PORCH IN AN ENCLOSED, PRIVATE FENCED YARD. GIVE YOU A LOOK AT HOW THE SITE PLAN LAYS OUT THIS GIVES YOU JUST A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW. YOU CAN SEE THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL OFF ON CUSTER ROAD THERE. YOU CAN SEE THE STREET CRED IS IT'S LAID OUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A LOT OF IRREGULARITIES. THE SITE CONSTRAINTS ITSELF WITH THE CREEKS, THE LARGE EASEMENT, WHICH WE'VE TURNED INTO A KIND OF A GREEN BELT RUNNING, I GUESS KIND OF DIAGONALLY ACROSS THE SITE BETWEEN THE NORTH AND SOUTH PARCEL ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE CREEK AND THEN THE AREA BACK ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE WHERE WE'VE GOT THE ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY THAT'S EXISTING TODAY. WE HAVE SPENT AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF TIME WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I'LL GET TO THAT IN JUST A MINUTE. MAYBE THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE SETBACK.

I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A FLOOR MODIFICATION, I BELIEVE IS THE RIGHT TERMINOLOGY HERE. THERE WAS A BIT OF A MISUNDERSTANDING WHEN WE SUBMITTED THE SUBMISSION. WE HAD A 20 FT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, WHICH WAS ALSO INTENDED TO SERVE AS THE BUILDING SETBACK FOR THAT AREA IS DESCRIBED TO YOU ON THE GRAPHIC. YOU CAN SEE IT LABELED THERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

THIS IS THE SAME GRAPHIC IN THE SAME SETBACK THAT WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD H AWAYS.

SO IN A MINUTE, I'LL GET TO THEIR VOTE OF SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT. I BELIEVE THAT VERY DIFFERENTLY FROM THE STAFF'S INTERPRETATION OF WHAT WAS SUBMITTED WHERE THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING SETBACK. IN ADDITION TO THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, WHICH WAS NOT OUR INTENT AND DOESN'T LINE WITH THE SITE PLAN, SO WE WOULD LIKE TOE REQUEST THAT MODIFICATION.

IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU GUYS DON'T GET THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, AND WE CAN MAYBE CIRCLE BACK TO THAT ON THE TAIL END. AS I MENTIONED WE HAVE SUPPORT SIGNIFICANT SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD H A WAYS OF OUTLINED A COUNTER OF MEETINGS THAT WE HOSTED IN SEPTEMBER. WE MET WITH THE STONE BRIDGE RANCH. IT'S AWAY BOARD IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, WE'VE BEEN WITH THE CRAIG RANCH NORTH. EACH AWAY IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, WE HAD VIRTUAL MEETINGS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW SERIOUS OF RESIDENTS HAVE REQUESTED FOLLOW UPS WITH BOTH CRAIG RANGE NORTH IN STONEBRIDGE S. WE'VE HAD SIGNIFICANT, YOU KNOW, FACE TIME AND CONVERSATION AND MODIFYING EVERYTHING FROM BUILDING HEIGHTS TO SETBACKS TO LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS. TOE ACCESS POINTS HAVE ALL BEEN COORDINATED THROUGH THOSE CONVERSATIONS ON THE LAST THING WE DID HOST A VIRTUAL MEETING WITH THE CASCADES AND

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SO WHAT YOU NO BOTHER WITH WITH POTENTIALLY READING THE WHOLE THING. WHAT I DO WANT TO MENTION IF YOU LOOK AT THE ADDRESS IS THERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. THOSE ADDRESSES HAVE A LASER POINTER, TOO. USED THE INVITATION. IS THAT. OH PERFECT. YES. SO WHAT I WOULD JUST MENTION HERE IS THE RESIDENTS THAT SIGN THE LETTER ARE ESSENTIALLY IN THIS AREA HERE AND SO AGAIN. WE MET WITH EVERYBODY. WE HAD LARGE VIRTUAL TOWN HOME STYLE MEETINGS WHERE ANYBODY THAT WANTED TO ATTEND ATTEND AND ASK QUESTIONS. WE MET WITH TH OF WAYS AND THEIR BOARDS. BUT IS IT RELATES TO SPECIFICALLY REACHING OUT FOR SIGNATURES FOR ACTUAL LETTER OF SUPPORT? WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE MOST DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THE PROJECT, MEANING OUR IMMEDIATE ADJACENCY NEIGHBORS. HAD SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT, SO THE SIGNATURES PROVIDED ON THE PAGE REPRESENT THOSE LOCATIONS. SO I GUESS I'LL PAUSE THERE.

MAYBE YEAH. AND. PERHAPS GO BACK TO HERE, AND I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS OF MR ROBIE. HAVE YOU DEVELOPED ANY OTHER PROJECTS LIKE THIS ONE? WE HAVE SEVERAL IN DEVELOPMENT. CURRENTLY WE HAVE NOT COMPLETED HAVE OPERATIONAL BUT WE HAVE PROJECTS IN FRISCO IN AUSTIN AND IN MANSFIELD, TEXAS, IN DEVELOPMENT CURRENTLY. GONNA PROCESS TO GO THROUGH TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE SUFFICIENTLY PART. WAY WILL COORDINATE WITH CITY STAFF AND WITH LOCAL REGULATIONS FOR IT. WE ALSO USE JUST KIND OF GENERAL PARKING SENIORS FOR A RESIDENTIAL LIKE TYPICAL MULTI FAMILY TYPE PRODUCT PARKING RATIOS ARE GENERALLY SIMILAR. CAN YOU TELL ME? WHAT DO YOU INTEND FOR ACCESS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE TRACKS THROUGH THE. OFFICE DEVELOPMENTS TO THE NORTH AS FAR AS EXITS. YES HE GROWS SO WE HAVE PLANNED FOR TWO POINTS OF ACCESS TO MEET. YOU KNOW, BOTH GENERAL USABILITY AS WELL AS FIVE COULD REQUIREMENTS TRYING TO USE THIS AGAIN, SO THERE'S AN ACCESS POINT. IT'S LIKELY TO BE THE PRIMARY ACCESS POINT COMING IN AND OUT OF CUSTER ROAD ON THE WESTERN EDGE, AND THEN THERE'S A CONNECTION POINT THROUGH THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, NORTH OF US, WHICH WOULD BE A SECONDARY ACCESS POINT. THAT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE BUILDING A BRIDGE OVER THE CREEK THERE SO THAT THERE IS CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE TWO, SO THERE'S FLUID TRAFFIC FLOW TO BOTH EXITS OR ENTRANCE POINTS BECAUSE OF THE CREEK THAT RUNS AROUND THE PERIMETER.

OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS NO ABILITY TO DO ADDITIONAL ACCESS POINTS HERE, SO WE WERE LIMITED AND CLEARLY YOU'VE GOT THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT OVER HERE ON THIS SIDE, SO YOU REALLY ONLY LEFT WITH TWO PLACES. WE DO ALSO PROVIDE A CONNECTION POINT INTO THE EXISTING OFFICE.

THAT'S EXISTING THERE AS WELL. THE QUESTIONS. YOU WANT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ADAM, IF YOU'VE COME AND I AND LIKE TONTO COMMENT ON THIS PROPOSED REZONE, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. ALSO FOR THE RECORD, WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER UM OF SUPPORT FROM A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS. REFERENCED IN MR ROBICHEAUX. PRESENTATION AND THIS WILL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL IS PART OF OUR MINUTES. WE WON'T READ THE LETTER, BUT IT WILL BE PART OF OUR PACKAGE. THAT GOES WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL. NO ONE HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON THIS. PROPOSED REASON. MOVIE CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING.

SHE MET MR MANZANO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND MAN. MR WATLEY, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. ALL RIGHT. THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS EYES CLOSED. NOW MEMBERS QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM STAFF OR THE APPLICANT. A QUESTION OF STAFF. OVER THE LAST YEAR. WE'VE GOTTEN MORE THESE LESS DANCE, ALMOST SINGLE FAMILY TYPE PRODUCT, BUT ALL FOR RENTAL. THAT'S NOT INDIVIDUALLY PLANTED. HOW COMFORTABLE ARE WE? THAT? REGULAR PARKING STANDARDS OR WHAT IS COMING BEFORE THE PIAN Z. UM. SUFFICIENT FOR THESE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS. CERTAINLY SO WITH OTHER REQUESTS SIMILAR TO THIS ONE WE HAVE, UM, SEEN REQUESTED MODIFICATIONS TO THAT ONE SPACE PER BEDROOM UNIT. GIVEN THAT THIS IS SIMILAR TO A

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DIFFICULT LAYING TRACK INITIALLY. WAS LOOKING TO OPPOSE THIS BECAUSE THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO OFFICE THAT WAS REMAINING ON BREATHING, SO WE HAD THAT BUT THEN WE HAVE DEVELOPER THAT'S ALSO WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBORING RESIDENTS AND THAT ACTUALLY SUPPORT A RENTAL. PROJECT SO UM. PLUSES AND NEGATIVES TO IT. IT'S A DIFFICULT TRACK. I DON'T KNOW.

IF YOU COULD EVER REALLY DEVELOP INTO MUCH OF AN OFFICE WOULD BE JUST SMALLER, IF ANYTHING, BUT I DON'T THINK THE WHOLE 38 ACRES COULD MAKE IT THERE. EVEN WITH THE TWO OR FOUR YOU COULD CARVE OUT FOR COMMERCIAL OF FRONT. UM. BUT A LITTLE LOST TO SAY I FULLY RECOMMEND UM. 36 ACRES OF MULTI FAMILY CONSIDERING THE DIRECTIVES OUT THERE, SO DON'T KNOW. LISTEN. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO COMMENT? I'LL JUST SAY I AGREE WITH DEATHS RECOMMENDATION ON THIS AND I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS. THAT'S WHAT'S PUT POOR. YEAH.

MCCONE. YEAH, UH, I WAS IN FAVOR OF THE LAST TIME. MULTI FAMILY. IT'S AN UNUSUAL PIECE PROPERTY. UH AND I JUST DON'T SEE COMMERCIAL TAKING UP. ALL OF THIS LAND. COMPARED TO IN THIS PRODUCT. SEEMS TO BE GOOD PRODUCT. OVER THE MULTI FAMILY. STILL IN FAVOR OF. THIS IS LONG AS THERE'S A GOOD BUFFER BETWEEN. RESIDENT. EXISTING RESIDENTS. IN THERE IN FAVOR OF IT. I WOULD AGREE. THIS IS A TOUGH TRACK A LAND 38 ACRES WITH THE WAY IT'S SET UP.

YOU'VE GOT THAT PIECE, REALLY, ACTUALLY, OVER THE BACK OF THE CREEK THAT I WOULD STRUGGLE TOE TO SEE ANY COMMERCIAL COME IN, AND ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING. I WAS LEANING MORE TOWARDS DENIAL BEFORE THE PRESENTATION. I DO THINK IT'S A GOOD USE LIKE THE PRODUCT THAT YOU'RE PRODUCING.

UM IT'S. IT'S A TOUGH PIECE OF PROPERTY TO DEVELOP. EITHER WAY, WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL OR THIS WAY, SO UM, YEAH, I'M GONNA KIND OF. GONNA SEE WHAT EVERYONE HAS TO SAY. WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THE END OF THAT, SO YOU NEED TO GET READY. NO ONE ELSE. MM. WITH THE RESIDENTS. YOU'VE BEEN THERE, BUT I AM HELP ME LEAD TOWARD. EXCEPT WE KEEP SAYING IT OVER AND OVER. OFF TRACK OF LAND DEAL. IS THE BEST USE. FOR RIGHT, RIGHT. I'M LOOKING AT THE PRODUCT THAT THEY PUT THEIR. TO HAVE A REALLY QUICKLY SHOW THE LETTER THAT WAS SUBMITTED THAT HAS A SIGNATURE ON IT. I GUESS THIS MIGHT BE FOR THE AFGHAN. HOW IS THIS LETTER GENERATED? WAS IT DRIVEN BY THE RESIDENTS WHO SIGNED THIS, OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS DRAFTED FOR THEM AND HAD THEM SIGNED ONTO? WE DID SEND A NUMBER OF KIND OF TALKING POINTS TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE H AWAY OR THAT GETS THE ACTING PRESIDENT TH AWAY AND SAID, THIS IS SOME THINGS THAT WE THINK HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS. IF YOU'D BE WILLING TO SIGN THIS OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WE'D APPRECIATE IT. HE WAS ACTUALLY THE ONE THAT OFFERED TO TAKE IT TO THE RESIDENTS DOOR BY DOOR AND HAVE THEM BE THE ONES ASSIGNED IT AS WELL. OKAY, BUT HE ORIGINATED IT OR DID YOU GUYS ORIGINALLY WE PROVIDED THE TALK LIKE THE FRAMEWORK OF IT AND THEN SAID IF YOU WANTED TO MODIFY IT, YOU'D BE FEEL FREE TO AND THEN HE WAS THE PERSON THAT WOULD SPECIFICALLY TO THOSE NEIGHBORS JUST TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO DID HE TAKE YOUR PRESENTATION TO THEM? WE SPOKE. EXCUSE ME. WAY SPOKE TO

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PALIN WHILE YOU'RE THERE, THE APPLICANT REQUESTED A CHANGE TO YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON THE SET BACK. YES, SIR. YEAH. ANY INPUT ON THAT. YOU'RE MR ON A WOMAN. S SO WHERE I'VE OUTLINED FOR YOU. THOSE LATTES ARE THOSE DWELLING UNITS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING WOULD OR THE REQUESTING, I BELIEVE FOR A 20 FT BUILDING SEPARATION OF BUILDING SETBACK FROM THAT PROPERTY LINE. CURRENTLY THE REQUIREMENT BECAUSE IT IS A SINGLE FAMILY USE TO HIM, MULTI FAMILY USE. IT IS REQUIRED TO BE 45 FT. BUT THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THAT REDUCTION TO 20 FT. I THINK OUR BIGGEST CONCERN WITH THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN HAD THE LAYOUT BEEN SHOWING THAT 45 FT SETBACK PLUS THE 20 FT LANDSCAPE FOR BUT BASED ON WHAT I THINK I HEARD THE APPLICANT STATE. THE LAYOUT THAT WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE RESIDENTS. AS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN WAS ALWAYS DEVELOPED UNDER THAT 20 FT LANDSCAPE OF HER AND SET BACK AS CAITLIN MENTIONED WITH A MULTI A TRADITIONAL MULTI FAMILY PRODUCT. YOU WOULD HAVE THAT 20 FT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, PLUS A 45 FT BUILDING SETBACK WITH THIS BEING A MORE SINGLE FAMILY STYLE PRODUCT IF THIS WERE A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT TO A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT 45 FT BUILDING SETBACK WOULDN'T EXIST. AND THAT FORM SO I THINK WHEN YOU WHEN YOU FACTOR IN ALL OF THOSE THINGS, I WOULDN'T IMAGINE THAT WE WOULD HAVE STRONG OPPOSITION TO IT. MY BIGGEST CONCERN WOULD HAVE BEEN MAKING SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS WERE AWARE BASED ON THE CONCEPT PLAN. THAT'S WHAT WAS SHOWING. OKAY? I'M HAVING TROUBLE WITH. I CAN'T. UH ARE YOU SAYING IT'S ONLY 20 FT SETBACK OR IN THE. RULE IS 45 IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE 20 AND BUT WE YOU WANT TO 45? YES. SO THE CURRENT REQUIREMENT FOR MULTI FAMILY TO A SINGLE FAMILY USE WOULD BE THAT 45 FT. SETBACK IN BETWEEN THE APPLICANTS REQUESTING A MODIFICATION TO REDUCE THAT TO THE 20 FT, WHATEVER THEY WOULD HAVE THE 20 FT BUILDING SEPARATION. THAT WOULD ALSO BE THAT LANDSCAPE BUFFER. AS WELL AS WELL, YEAH, SO THEY COULD OVERLAP OVERLAP SENDS ME GET IT OVER LAST YEAR. SETBACK IS MEASURED FROM YOUR PROPERTY LINE S O EVEN PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BECAUSE CAITLIN ABUSE IS MORE THAN I DO. BUT EVEN WITH THE 20 FT LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND A 45 FT SETBACK, WE WOULD BE MEASURING THAT LANDSCAPE BUFFER OF 20 FT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THAT SETBACK WOULD BE MEASURED FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AS WELL.

SO THERE'D BE SOME OVER LIGHT. OVER LEFT. THE TRUE SEPARATION WOULD BE 45 FT. MINUS 20. SO 25 FT. THIS IS IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN WHAT A SINGLE FAMILY IS IN A MULTI FAMILY IS ESSENTIALLY, YES, LOOKING, FEELS A SINGLE FAMILY BUT BASED ON THE MORE THAN ONE DUELING UNIT PER LOT, IT IS A MULTI FAMILY CLASSIFICATIONS. THERE'S NO ACCESS FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TOO. HE'S NO SIR. AS APPLICANT MENTIONED. THE TWO ACCESS POINTS ARE ON THE NORTH FOR THE COMMERCIAL AND THEN ONE ACCESS ON CUSTER. WELL THEY HAVE THIS I MEAN, A NATURAL BUFFER. I MEAN, IS THAT JUST A GREAT IN LINE ARE CERTAIN OR IS THERE ANY KIND OF FENCING OR JUST TREE LINE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? SO THIS DARKER GREEN AREA YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE THAT. EXCUSE ME, THIS DARKER GREEN AREA THAT SHADED ON THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WILL BE A 30 FT TREE PRESERVATION ZONE. NO ADDITIONAL SCREENING IS BEING REQUESTED WITHIN THAT THOSE BUFFERS WHERE THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES ON THE AREA THAT WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING. THERE IS AN EXISTING RETAINING WALL. A SWELL IS THERE WOULD INFANTS ON TOP. UM AND SO THE APPLICANTS REQUESTING TO NOT PROVIDE A SCREENING DEVICE AND TERMS OF A WALL, BUT EITHER REQUEST ART EITHER PROVIDE EVERGREEN SHRUBS CONTINUOUSLY ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE. OR AN INCREASED TREE COUNTS FROM 112. SCUSE ME S ONE CANOPY TREE TO 25 FT ON CENTER.

IS THERE A HEIGHT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY AND THE EXISTING THERE IS A HEIGHT DIFFERENCE IF APPLICANT DO YOU KNOW THAT MEASUREMENT OF THE RETAINING WALL? WILL THIS BE

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SO WHETHER IT'S VINES AND SHRUBS AND WEEDS THAT GROW OUT UP ABOVE IT, YOU KNOW, RODENTS FROM THE CREEK IS OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A CREEK RIGHT HERE, SO YOU KNOW CRITTERS RUNNING AROUND BACK THERE. THERE'S YOU CAN'T SERVICE IT AT THAT POINT ON DSA THAT THE DECISION WAS MADE AGAIN, DRIVEN IN PART BY THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE RESIDENTS TO UTILIZE THEIR EXISTING FENCE AS THE SCREENING ELEMENT BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY, AND THERE'S. NOW THAT SAID TO ENHANCE IT. THERE'S SOUND QUALITY'S. THERE'S VISUAL QUALITIES AND OTHER THINGS THAT BENEFIT OUR PROPERTY TO DO SOMETHING, SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY A LANDSCAPE SCREENING ELEMENT, SO WE'LL HAVE BOTH TREATY TREE ELEMENTS AS WELL, A SHRUBS THAT WILL PLANT ALONG THAT ON THE BACK SIDE OF IT. THE QUESTIONS. WON'T PLAY WAY YOU'RE HERE. UM SO YOU HEARD STAFFS. WEIGH IN ON YOUR PROPOSED CHANGING THAT SETBACK. WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING. WE ARE WHAT THE OBJECTIVE FROM STILL WATERS PERSPECTIVE. IT WAS. IT'S A SMALL LAND AREA. FRANKLY OVER THERE, THE TRADITIONAL MULTI FAMILY SETBACK WAS UNTENABLE. IT CREATED UNUSABLE PARCEL.

BACK IN THAT AREA IN BLENDING BETWEEN THAT AND THE SINGLE FAMILY REGULATIONS, GIVEN THE PROPER PROPOSED PRODUCT TYPE FELT LIKE IT COULD COMPROMISE, SO I THINK WE'RE ALL WERE GREAT WITH IT. I THINK EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME PAGE. I KNOW THE RESIDENTS SUPPORT IT. OKAY? ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, OF COURSE. I THINK IT'S A GREAT USE OF THE PROPERTY.

THERE'S LOTS OF THOUGHT AND CONSIDERATION HAS GONE GONE INTO WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.

TONTO SAY IT'S A CHALLENGING TRACT IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT. IT IS AND WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE NEIGHBORS AND. LIKE THE LIKE THE PRESENTATION AND I LIKE WHAT YOU'VE PUT TOGETHER HERE.

TO CAITLIN. NO ONE ELSE. MAKE A MOTION TO PROVE THE APPLICATION PER AFRICANS REQUEST WITH THE 20 FT OF HER LANDSCAPE OF HER SETBACK. ON THE EASTERN PORTION. MOTION BY MR MAN'S EYE. APPROVE THE ADAM PARAPPA REQUEST, INCLUDING THE CHANGE AND BUFFER. ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. CIRCUIT. TAKEN DAMAGE TO RECALL ANY DISCUSSION. WE'RE GOOD, MISS ARNOLD. OKAY, ANYONE? HE'S CAST YOUR VOTES. OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES A VOTE OF SIX IN FAVOR. ONE AGAINST THE AUTUMN WILL BE SENT TO CITY COUNCIL WITH THE FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION. FOR FINAL ACTION AT THE MARCH 16 2021 COUNCIL MEETING. THE LAST TIME

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request by the City of McKinney to Amend Chapter 146 (Zoning Regulations) Sections 146-130 (Vehicle Parking), 146-131 (Off-street loading) of the Code of Ordinances]

JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT YOU GUYS DID RECEIVE A LETTER OF OPPOSITION THAT WAS FOR THAT WE RECEIVED AFTER THE ITEMS WERE SENT TO YOU GUYS S O. THOSE HAVE BEEN LAID OUT FOR YOU. ARE

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I'VE ANSWERED SOME OF HIS QUESTIONS. HE HAD AND WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM. ESPECIALLY AS WE GO THROUGH THE LOADING SECTION. S O TONIGHT. WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS THE VEHICLE PARKING AND OFF STREET AMENDMENTS. REALLY THESE KIND OF COME OUT OF OUR SHORT TERM PRIORITY AMENDMENTS THROUGH OUR NEW CODE MCKINNEY OR THE DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATE THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW. THIS IS ONE OF THE TASK THAT WE IDENTIFIED THAT WE WANTED TO KIND OF MOVE THROUGH WITH THE WHOLE PURPOSE BEHIND THE SHORT TERM PRIORITY AMENDMENTS IS REALLY TOO. START WORKING ON SOME AREAS OF CONCERN ISSUES THAT WE HAD THAT WE KNEW WE HAD AND TO MAKE THINGS BETTER. OBVIOUSLY THIS HELPS BUILD MOMENTUM FOR THAT PROJECT AS WELL AND KIND OF SHOWS YOU WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WE MOVE THROUGH THESE AMENDMENTS SO WHAT KIND OF GO THROUGH THOSE TONIGHT. SO, REALLY, I'M GONNA WALK THROUGH THE AMENDMENTS AND THEY'RE LISTED HERE. I WON'T GO THROUGH THEM. ALL SPECIFICALLY, IS I KIND OF WALKED THROUGH EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUAL. TYPICALLY WE WALK THROUGH WORK SESSION WITH YOU GUYS TOO. CAN I SHOW YOU WHAT'S HAPPENING AND LET YOU ALLOW YOU TO ASK QUESTIONS? SO WAS I GO THROUGH THIS. YES. KIND OF GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THE END. HOPEFULLY I CAN ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS AND GIVE SOME SOME BACKGROUND BEHIND THE REASON FOR THE CHANGES, BUT I KIND OF WALKED THROUGH THOSE SO. BEAR WITH ME AS WE MOVE THROUGH THERE, SO AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE FIRST THING THAT WE KIND OF WANTED TO ADDRESS OUR PARKING AMENDMENTS, THE SHORT TERM 30 AMENDMENTS HIGHLIGHTED. THOSE IS AN AREA OF CONCERN THAT WE WANTED TO ADDRESS ESSO AS WE MOVE THROUGH. THE FIRST ISSUE THAT WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT OR NOT ISSUE BUT THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ADDING ADDITIONAL USES. ESSO WE STAFF IS PROPOSING TO ADD TWO ADDITIONAL USES TO KIND OF ADDRESS. SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE HAD AROUND MULTI USE BUILDINGS, MULTI TENANT BUILDINGS IF YOU WILL, AND SO THOSE TWO USES ARE A SHOPPING CENTER PARKING. DEFINITIONS THERE AND THE RATIO AND ALSO INDUSTRIAL FLEX CENTER LIKE I MENTIONED THESE AIR FOR BOTH MULTI USE AND MULTI TENANT BUILDINGS, A ZOO. WE'VE KIND OF GONE THROUGH, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DO SOME SPECULATION DEVELOPMENT. OR BUILD SHELL BUILDINGS. THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO GO IN THERE RIGHT NOW FOR OUR PARKING ORDINANCE, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO LIST THE TYPE OF USES AND HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE YOU'RE BASING EACH OF THOSE ON AND THERE'S A ASSOCIATED PARKING RATIO THAT YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE FOR THAT, AND IT DETERMINES THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING. SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TO KIND OF MOVE AWAY FROM THAT AND DO ONE RATIO BLENDED RATE IF YOU WILL, TO KIND OF SHOW WHAT THOSE TYPICAL CENTERS WOULD USE RIGHT NOW. THE RATIO THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE BUILDING UNDER 50,000 SQUARE FEET. YOU KNOW, ONE PER 2 50 PARKING CELERY SHOW. THIS IS SIMILAR TO OUR RETAIL PARKING RATIO. BUT AS YOU CAN MIX USES IN THERE, YOU COULD HAVE THINGS THAT ARE MORE INTENSE, LIKE RESTAURANTS THAT ARE AT A HIGHER RATIO OR EVEN OFFICE OR MET OFFICE, WHICH IS A LOWER RATIO. SO ANYTHING THAT WOULD HAPPEN WITHIN THEIR ASSES LONG AS YOU MET THE SHOPPING CENTER PARKING RATIO RATE FOR THE SITE. YOU'D BE ABLE TO KIND OF INTERCHANGE THOSE USES. AND SO WE'VE RUN INTO THAT A FEW TIMES AS WE CHANGE THE USE ON KIND OF BECOME ROADBLOCK IN SOME INSTANCES FOR B PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO WRITE BUSINESSES, SO WE WANTED TO KIND OF ALLEVIATE THAT HERE. WE ALSO DECIDED THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO DO THAT IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, IF YOU WILL. SO WE'RE PROPOSING THE INDUSTRIAL FLEX CENTER. WHICH IS A SIMILAR SHOPPING STYLE CENTER FOR INDUSTRIAL USES IF YOU WILL. AND SO THE RATIO THERE IS PROVIDED TO KIND OF GO. ANYTHING UNDER 40,000 SQUARE FEET. YOU HAVE A ONE PER 1000 PARKING STALL RATIO OR BUILDINGS THAT ARE 40,000 SQUARE FEET AND OVER HALF OF ONE PER 2000, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO OTHER USES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT'S WE'RE ALREADY PROVIDING SO. AZZAWI CONTINUE ON AND TALK ABOUT USES. THE UNLISTED USE PROCESS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT SO AND THE TWO BOXES UP HERE. YOU SEE THAT WE HAVE OUR CURRENT PROCESS, AND THEN WE HAVE THE PROPOSED CHANGES. REALLY WHAT? YOU'RE LOOKING. WELL WE LOOK AT UNLISTED USES. WE'RE LOOKING AT USES THAT OR NOT. FOUND IN OUR ORDNANCE RIGHT NOW. THIS HAS STARTED TO COME UP A LITTLE BIT MORE OFTEN IS WE'VE GONE THROUGH WHEN WE HAVE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS OR OR USES THAT COME IN THAT DON'T REALLY MATCH AND SO WE WANTED THE ABILITY TO KIND OF CLARIFY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, AND HAVE SOME ABILITY TO KIND OF SHOW WHAT WE WANTED TO KIND OF GO THROUGH AND. A LITTLE BIT BETTER

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INSTEAD OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. WE FEEL THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO WEIGH IN ON THESE TYPE OF ISSUES BECAUSE THEY'RE RELATED TO PLANNING AND ZONING, SAID THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. MOVING ON. THE BIG ONE KIND OF FOR US IS THE MODIFICATIONS TO OUR MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS. UM BEFORE YOU CAN SEE THE TWO TABLES. YOU HAVE THE CURRENT OPTION THAN THE PROPOSED OPTIONS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WILL NOTICE IS THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY REMOVING THE MULTI TENANT SHOPPING CENTER. SINCE WE ARE PROPOSING THAT NEW USE FOR A SHOPPING CENTER RATE AND A BLENDED RATIO, WE FEEL THAT THIS IS NO LONGER NEEDED, AND I THINK WE'LL ACTUALLY SEE SOME BENEFITS FROM HAVING. SHOPPING CENTER RATIO.

INSTEAD OF HAVING THIS UM NEXT ON THE PROPOSED SIDE. THE BIG ONE IS THE. INTRODUCTION OF A PARKING DEMAND STUDY. THIS ALLOWS AN APPLICANT TO PROPOSE A DIFFERENT PARKING RATIO RATE THAN WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE, THEY PROVIDED STUDY TO US THAT WE WOULD ANALYZE AND LOOK AT AND BE ABLE TO PROVE AT A STAFF LEVEL IF WE FEEL THAT. ITEMS IN THERE AND THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT THEY HAVE MADE ARE CORRECT. THAT WOULD BE LOOKED AT BY BOTH PLANNING AND ENGINEERING TO KIND OF LOOK AT THOSE AND DISCUSS ANYTHING THAT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO APPROVE A STAFF LEVEL THAT WOULD COME BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. HAVE YOU GUYS WEIGH IN AND BE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND KIND OF MOVE DOWN THE ROAD FROM THERE? NEXT ON BLAST OUR LIST SHARED PARKING SHIRT PARKING. IS SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF WORKING. OKAY RIGHT NOW, BUT WE DID WANT TO IMPROVE UPON WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN OFFERED. AND SO YOU KIND OF SEE THE CURRENT REGULATIONS. WE DO ALLOW PEOPLE TO SHARE 50% OF THEIR, UH, SPACES PER USE, BUT THEY ARE LIMITED ONLY TO SPECIFIC USES. YOU CAN SEE THOSE USES LISTED THERE. AND THEY MAY NOT OPERATE DURING THE SAME TIME OR DURING THE SAME HOURS ON THEY HAVE TO BE KIND OF A SIMILAR USE SO THAT. KIND OF LIMITS THOSE TYPE OF USES THAT CAN ACTUALLY SHARE THE OTHER OPTION THAT PEOPLE HAVE THROUGH OUR ORDINANCE CURRENTLY IS ANY SITE THAT HAS PARKING THAT GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT'S REQUIRED. CITES HER OR THOSE SPACES ARE ALLOWED TO BE SHARED. SO WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY PROPOSING IS THAT IN THE NON RESIDENTIAL USES APPLICANTS COULD PROVIDE PARKING DEMAND STUDY TO SHOW THEIR PEAK HOURS AND HOW THEY KIND OF HELD THEIR SPECIFIC BUSINESS WORKS IN RELATION TO EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO PROPOSE. OR SHARE PARKING WITH AND BE ABLE TO SUBMIT SOMETHING SAYING HERE IS KIND OF HOW OUR SITE WORKS AS OPPOSED OR WITH CONJUNCTION WITH THE OTHER SITES AND KIND OF BE ABLE TO SHARE. PARKING RELATED TO THAT AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO APPROVE THROUGH STAFFER ADMINISTRATIVELY ANY PILLS, BUT BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. NEXT. LET'S MOVE ON ON SHIFT GEARS A LITTLE BIT GO FROM PARKING. THE LOADING, WHICH I KNOW IS NOT A BIG JUMP, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, UM SO THIS ITEM. WAS IDENTIFIED IN OUR CODE ASSESSMENT IS SOMETHING THAT BOTH STAKEHOLDERS AND CITY STAFF IDENTIFIED AS AS THINGS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE. UPDATED OR MODERNIZED. S O STAFF IS PROPOSING KIND OF IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT. WHAT WE'VE SEEN HERE, AND MCKINNEY IS THAT INSTEAD OF REQUIRING LOADING SPACES TO BE PROVIDED EYES KIND OF. TO BE MORE OF AN OPTION BASED ON THE BUSINESS USERS NEED. IF THEY DO PROVIDE IT, WE STILL HAVE STANDARDS TO PROTECT AGAINST ANY OF THOSE USES THAT ARE PROVIDING THOSE AND SO THEY DO HAVE TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS STILL, BUT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO KIND OF MIX AND MATCH FOR WHATEVER YOUR

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YEAH, IT IS. A LOT OF THE TRUCKS JUST DO A DROP AND GO ON. IT'S HARD TO POLICE THAT BECAUSE BY THE TIME YOU CALL SOMEONE HAVE SOMEONE COME OUT, THEY'RE PROBABLY ALREADY GONE.

SO IT DOES. THOSE CHALLENGES AS AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE FOR THE CITY STILL BE ABLE TO ENFORCE SOMETHING AND IF SOMEONE IS ABUSING IT FOR TYING UP A ROAD FOR A LONG TERM. ABSOLUTELY AND OUR FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE IS VERY ACTIVE ABOUT THAT. YEAH. OTHER BEING THE PARKING AMENDMENTS FOR THIS HORSE SHOPPING CENTERS GO AND GENERAL IF YOU'VE GOT A FIVE TENANT AND YOU'VE BEEN ALLOWING SO MUCH PER SQUARE FOOT IS DYING IS THIS IS A BLENDED IN THIS IS FINE. SO HAS THE CITY APPROACH. LANDLORD STARTS RESERVING A BUNCH OF SPACES FORCE DIFFERENT TENANTS ALONG THE WAY. IS THAT IN ANY WAY THE CITY'S ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S A MUST BE A BLENDED PARKING RATIO, OR CAN A LANDLORD RESERVE? NO MONEY IS THEY WON'T FOR ANY CERTAINTY IN IT. YEAH I MEAN ANY ANY TIME THAT OWNER WERE ATTENDANT OCCUPIES A SPACE THEY HAVE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THAT ZAH PRIVATE OWNERSHIP ISSUE WHERE THEY WORK TOGETHER TO SOLVE THEIR PARKING ISSUES. FROM THE CITY'S STANDPOINT, AS LONG AS THERE'S NO PARKING ON THE SITE.

HOW THAT'S DIVVIED UP IS UP UP TO THE OWNER AND THE TENANTS OF THE SPACE. IN THE PARKING DEMAND STUDY AS FAR AS WHEN THE STAFF WILL LOOK AT THAT FOR THE CURRENT PROJECT AT HAND, AND WHETHER THAT PARKING THAT THEY'RE SUGGESTING MEETS IT IN THAT PERKY STUDY WITH STAFF ALSO BE LOOKING TO THE POTENTIAL OF WHAT THAT WILL BE RETURN. IT'D AT POTENTIALLY OR NEW OWNER POTENTIALLY NEW USE DOWN THE FUTURE. WILL THAT BE TAKEN IN ACCOUNT? NOT JUST THAT. CURRENT SITUATION. I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GREAT QUESTION. I THINK THE WAY THAT IT'S THE WAY THAT IS PROPOSED IN THE ORDINANCE. IT DOESN'T INHERENTLY REQUIRE THAT WE LOOK TO FUTURE TURNOVER, RIGHT, BUT I DEFINITELY THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD EITHER CONSIDER ADDING AS PART OF OUR CONSIDERATION FACTORS FOR THAT PARKING DEMAND STUDY BECAUSE YOU WERE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. TENANT A COMES IN AND IS ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT STUDY THAT SAYS THEY ONLY NEED. 50 SPACES FOR THEIR SQUARE FOOTAGE AND USE BUT IF THEY END UP GOING OUT OF BUSINESS IN A NEW TENANT COMES IN THAT NEW TENANT WOULD BE LIMITED BY THE NUMBER OF SPACES THAT ARE ON THE SITE. AND SO I ABSOLUTELY THINK THAT'S A GOOD COMMENT AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD FOLD INTO OUR CONSIDERATION CRITERIA FOR THAT PARKING STUDY. LONG TERM IMPACTS OF THAT. REDUCED PARKING. REITER MODIFIED PARKING RATE AND TURN OVER.

WHAT ELSE? ALONG THOSE LINES. WHEN SOMEONE REQUIRES A CEO. THERE'S A QUESTION REGARDING PARKING. MR MAN'S EYES POINT IS, IT MAY ALREADY BE IN THE SYSTEM THAT. PROPOSED USE, PARKING IS CONSIDERED WHEN ISSUING OR QUESTIONING A CEO, RIGHT? YEAH AND SO WHAT WE'VE SEEN AND YEARS PASSED IS WHEN YOU HAVE A MULTI TENANT SHOPPING CENTER ON THERE ON YOUR SITE PLAN. RIGHT NOW. WE REQUIRE AN APPLICANT TO SHOW US THE MIX OF USES THAT ARE GONNA BE IN THAT MULTI TENANT SHOPPING CENTER, SO THEY'RE GOING TO TELL US THEY HAVE 5000 SQUARE FEET FOR OFFICE. 5000 SQUARE FEET OF RESTAURANT AND 5000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL AND WE MAKE THEM PARK BASED ON THE RATIO IS FOR EACH OF THOSE INDIVIDUALIZED UNITS. WHICH CAN WORK WHEN THE SITE PLAN COMES IN. ORIGINALLY THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES WITH THAT, BECAUSE A

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NOW INTENDANT SPACE BE INSTEAD OF IT BEING A RETAIL SPACE. WE WANTED TO BE A RESTAURANT SPACE. ALL THE RESTAURANTS FACE HAS A HIGHER PARKING RATIO. SO AH, LOT OF TIMES. WE'LL END UP WITH A HEY, YOU CAN'T HAVE A RESTAURANT THERE BECAUSE YOU'LL YOU'LL EITHER HAVE TO PROVIDE THE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES OR YOU'RE YOU'RE SORT OF LOCKED OUT OF MAYBE THAT LAST REMAINING TENANT FILLING IN BECAUSE OF THAT PARKING RATIO. THAT IS THE BEAUTY OF THIS BLENDED RATE. IT DOES SORT OF TRY TO STRIKE THAT MIDDLE GROUND. TYPICALLY FREESTANDING OR RESTAURANT IS 1 TO 1 50 RETAIL IS 122 50 OFFICES 12 300, SO THIS BLENDED RATE SORT OF TRIES TO MEET IN THE MIDDLE TO SAY HEY, IF YOU'RE WILLING TO DO THIS WANTED RATE FOR A SHOPPING CENTER. THAT RATE IS YOUR PARKING RATIO WHETHER YOU'RE BUILDING ENDS UP DEVELOPING 100% OF GRIEF AS RESTAURANT OR 100% OF OFFICE. YOU CAN CHANGE THAT. YOUR TENANTS OVER TIME. YOUR CHANGE OF OCCUPANCY IS NO LONGER I'M GONNA BE DEPENDENT ON THAT PARKING BECAUSE YOUR BLENDED RIGHT UP FRONT SORT OF HIT THAT MIDDLE MIDDLE GROUND OF PARKING NEEDS A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE GOT TO KEEP IN MIND WITH. THAT IS OUR MINIMUM PARKING STANDARDS OR JUST THAT MINIMUMS AND A LOT OF TIMES, ESPECIALLY WITH THE LARGER SHOPPING CENTERS. THESE ARE NATIONAL NAMES THAT ARE COMING IN AND THEY'RE GOING TO DEMAND A CERTAIN PARKING NEED FOR THEIR MARKET. REGARDLESS OF WHAT OUR MINIMUM STANDARDS ARE. SO WE FELT LIKE THIS. MODIFIED RATE HELPED STRIKE THAT GOOD BALANCE OF WE'RE HITTING US A SWEETER SPOT IN TERMS OF THE BLENDED RIGHT ACROSS THE BOARD, IT STILL SAFEGUARDS THE CITY THAT A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF PARKING IS PROVIDED. BUT IT ALSO STILL LETS THE MARKET DECIDE WHEN YOU'RE DEVELOPING THOSE SITES. BUT THEIR ACTUAL NEEDS ARE THEY CAN GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT MINIMUM RATE IF THEY NEED TO TOW ONE THING, I WILL KATTEGAT WITH THE SHARE THE SHOPPING CENTER RATE IS IF SOMEBODY COMES IN WITH A SITE PLAN, AND THEY UTILIZE THAT SHOPPING'S IN A RAID. THEY WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR ANY OTHER PARKING REDUCTIONS. THEY COULDN'T COME IN AND SAY HERE'S OUR BLENDED RATE, BUT HERE'S ALSO OUR PARKING DEMAND STUDY TO SHOW THAT WE NEED SOMETHING LESS THAN THAT. YOUR YOUR SHOPPING CENTER PARKING RATE IS THAT GREAT? NOW AND FOREVER. MORE ON THE SITE OF SOMEONE CURRENTLY HAS A SHOPPING CENTER, AND IT FALLS BELOW THE 3 50 IN TOWN. THEY'RE GOING TO FALL UNDER THE HISTORICAL GOVERNANCE OF YOUR LOUD, SO MUCH MEDICAL SO MUCH OFFICE SO MUCH RESTAURANT. NO THEY COULD COME IN AND REQUEST THAT LANDED RIGHT? IF THEY ARE BELOW 3 50. WELL IF DEPENDING ON. THEY WOULD HAVE. THEY WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO FALL IN THE PARKING DEMAND STUDY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT USING THAT SHOPPING CENTER RATE, AND THEY'RE STILL SHORT WHAT THEY NEED, SO THEY'RE RIGHT. THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO TRY AND CREATE THAT SHARED PARKING THROUGH THE PEAK OFFSET OF USES. OR THAT PARKING DEMAND. STUDY. TOE HELP JUSTIFY THE RATE THAT THEY BELIEVE THEY NEED. PARKING DEMAND STUDY WOULD BE DO WIN. HOW'D WE DO DURING THE SITE PLAN REVIEW? SO WHEN WE'RE REVIEWING THE SITE PLAN, AND THEY SUBMIT THEIR SITE PLAN WITH THEIR USES OR WHATEVER POTENTIAL THEY WOULD ALSO SUBMIT PARKING DEMAND STUDY ASKING FOR THAT? TO BE REVIEWED, AND IS THERE ANY ANY ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF EXISTING CENTERS VERSUS NEW CONSTRUCTION? I HAVE AN EXISTING CENTER WITH EXISTING TENANTS. WHAT? WHAT? WHO DON'T GO, TOO. GOT WHO GUIDES MY PARKING VERSUS NEW CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S AN EASY ONE NEW CONSTRUCTION, BUT AN EXISTING CENTER EXISTING TENANTS. SOMEONE'S APPLYING FOR A CEO. YES. SO RIGHT NOW, WHAT DICTATES YOUR PARKING RATIO IS YOUR SITE PLAN, SO WHATEVER IS LISTED ON THE SITE PLAN CURRENTLY IS WHAT WOULD BE DICTATING YOUR USE IF YOU WANTED TO COME IN AND REVISE YOUR SITE PLAN. AND MOVE TOWARDS THAT SHOPPING CENTER RATIO. AS LONG AS YOU HAD THE ENOUGH SPACES ON THE SITE TO BE ABLE TO MEET THAT WOULD ALLOW THAT TO GO THROUGH AND THEN YOU WOULD BE DICTATED BY THAT NEW RATE ON THIS. THE SITE PLAN. OKAY, GOT IT. JUST A JOKE. I DIDN'T MEAN TO HOLD YOUR TIME. YOU'VE GOT SOME MY TIME IF YOU NEED IT. WE'RE ALL GOOD. THEY DID A GREAT JOB HELP. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, AARON. THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE

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