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COMMISSION MEETING OF TWO STEVE TONIGHT, 2021 THE COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU SEE. SEATED BEFORE YOU HAVE BEEN APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND WERE SERVED AT THE PLEASURE OF THAT SAME CITY COUNCIL. UM, TONIGHT OUR WAY HAVE A SHORT AGENDA. THE AUTUMN THAT WE DO HAVE DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED. IF YOU'RE HERE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROCESS, WE APPRECIATE YOU. BEING INVOLVED IN THIS PART OF APPROVAL OR ACTION ON ZONING REQUEST. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT CITIZENS ARE ENGAGED AND THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY. YET THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION LOVER, TOO VOICE YOUR THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS. IF YOU HAVE COME TONIGHT. TO TALK ON AN AUTUMN. WHEN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS.

YOUR CONCERNS. IN THREE MINUTES IS UP, YOU'LL HEAR A BUZZER. WE DO ASK THAT YOU TREAT EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT. LET'S FOCUS ON THE ISSUES AND SICK WITH THAT THREE MINUTES SCHEDULE IF YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, WE DO ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME TO THE PODIUM. IT WILL BE IN A TIME WHEN WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN WE WON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE COME TO THE PODIUM.

OR WILL WE ACKNOWLEDGE HANDS FLYING UP IN THE AUDIENCE IF THEY HEAR SOMETHING THAT THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT SO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU SHARE, PLEASE, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AT THAT TIME. WITH THAT. LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR GENDER. THE FIRST ITEM WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED.

TONIGHT. THAT WOULD BE THE MINUTES OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF TO, FEBRUARY THE 23RD IS THERE ANYONE HERE TONIGHT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS ON THE MINUTES OF. INDIAN ZONING COMMISSION OF FEBRUARY 23RD. ALL RIGHT MEMBERS, WE WOULD

[CONSENT ITEMS]

ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MAKE YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTE SAYS PRESENT IT SURE MR DOCTOR APPROVED. THEY COULD SOON ITEMS AS PRESENTED SECOND BY SECOND. UH. SCOTT, UH, WOODRUFF SECONDS EMOTION IN THE DISCUSSION. HIS CAST YOUR VOTES. ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION CARRIES A MINUTES HAVE

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit to Allow for a Car Wash, Located on the Southwest Corner of Collin McKinney Parkway and Lake Forest Drive (REQUEST TO BE TABLED)]

BEEN APPROVED. THE NEXT TIME WILL BE OUT IN TWO ZERO DASH S U P A PUBLIC HEARING REQUEST.

YOU ACT ONLY SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. TO ALLOW CAR WASH. THIS IS AT THE NORTH SORRY, SOUTHWEST CORNER OF COLIN MACKENZIE PARK WIN LIKE FOREST DRIVE, MISS. GIVEN.

ALL RIGHT. MEMBERS OF THEIR QUESTIONS OF STAFF. RIGHT, WELL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON TABLE THE ITEM TO THE MARCH 23RD. YOU'RE RIGHT. HOLD THAT THOUGHT. SOMETIMES I GO A LITTLE TOO FAST. SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU'VE COME TO NINE AND WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS. PROPOSED CAR, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. THANK YOU, TERRY. ALL RIGHT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE THE ITEM UNTIL OUR MARCH 23RD 2021 MEETING. OCEANO MR DOE TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE THE ADAM TILL THE MARCH 23RD 2020 MEETING SECOND.

SECOND BY, UH, CHRIS. CORRECT. ANY DISCUSSION. HE'S CAST YOUR VOTE. THIS MOTION CARRIES. JOHN HAS BEEN TABLED TO THE MARCH 23RD. 2020 MEETING ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION TO THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CONTINUED, SO THERE WILL NOT BE ANOTHER NOTIFICATION. NEXT ITEM. TO

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District, “AG” - Agricultural District, and “CC” - Corridor Commercial Overlay District to "C2" - Local Commercial District and “CC” - Corridor Commercial Overlay District, Located on the Southeast Corner of U.S. Highway 380 (University Drive) and Meadow Ranch Road]

WONDER 00050 PUBLIC HEARING REQUEST TO REZONE A PROPERTY FROM PD. AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AND CC COMMERCIAL OVERLAY DISTRICT TO SEE TWO LOCAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. OF U. S HIGHWAY. 3 80 METAL RANCH ROAD, MR MOSS.

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HEY, JOE, COULD YOU LEAN UP A LITTLE BIT INTO THE MIC? HAVING A HARD TIME PICKING YOU UP. YEAH. EVERYTHING. YOU CAN REST.

IT'S ON THE FAR LEFT, HARRY. BUTTON. EVERY GUY. ON PART TIME I T SPECIALIST. WHY DID YOU KNOW THAT? BRIAN DID YOU KNOW I WAS A PART. TIME MIGHTY SPECIALLY MADE HIM WALK ALL THE WAY UP. ALL RIGHT, WELL, THIS SITE IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF MEADOW RANCH DRIVE AND 3 80. GET THE SURROUNDING AREA HERE. THE SITE DOES HAVE COMMERCIAL USES TO THE WEST INDUSTRIAL ZONING ON THE EAST AND OFFICE USES TO THE NORTH. AND THERE IS THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY USES TO THE SOUTH. HERE'S SOME PICTURES OF THAT SURROUNDING AREA. THE EXISTING ZONING IS A COMBINATION OF THINGS. THE NORTHERN TRACK HERE IS A PD BASED ON THE O OFFICE DISTRICT. AND THESEVENTIES TRACKED HERE. IS. CURRENTLY RESIDENTIAL USE ZONED FOR AG. SINCE THE EXISTING AG LOT IS UNDER THE 10 ACRE MINIMUM LOT SIZE, IT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE REPLANTED FOR DEVELOPMENT. HER FOR REDEVELOPMENT IN ITS CURRENT STATE. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE ENTIRE PROPERTY TO THE SEA TO LOCAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. WHICH DOES PERMIT A VARIETY OF OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USES. THE SITE IS LOCATED ON A MAJOR REGIONAL HIGHWAY AND HAS NEIGHBORING COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL AND OFFICES. OWNING IS ALONG THE 3 80 CORRIDOR. GIVEN ITS PROXIMITY TO 3 80 STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST AND DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL. I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. LIKE JOE QUESTIONS OF STAFF, CHRIS, DO YOU MIND MENTIONING, GET DU MONDE ANNOTATING ON THE WHERE THE DATA IS LOCATED AND WENT IN THE PROCESS. THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED, AND I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT A LOT OF THE COMMENTS WERE RELATED TO THAT. THAT'S REALLY NOT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. SURE YEAH, THERE WAS AH, LOT OF THE COMMENTS WERE RELATING TO THE GATE THAT'S BETWEEN THE MEADOW RANCH SUBDIVISION. AND THE CREEP YOU SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS TO ITSELF S. OH THAT'S FAR OFF SITE. I'M NOT NOT NECESSARILY IN THIS. REQUEST IT ALL. THERE IS AN EXISTING SCREENING WALL TO THE MEADOW RANCH SUBDIVISION, WHICH COMES ALONG THIS SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE HERE. IT'S A FENCE ALONG THE KIND OF EASTERN PORTIONS AND THEN TRANSITIONS TO A WALL ALONG THE WESTERN PORTIONS. AND DOES HAVE A MONUMENT RIGHT ABOUT THERE.

MONUMENTS A LITTLE HIGHER. GIRLS SITE. OKAY MY TURN. I APOLOGIZE. IT'S RIGHT THERE.

BETWEEN THOSE THAT EXISTING RESIDENTIAL USE IN THAT COMMERCIAL USE. SURE. SEE.

THAT'S NOT ON THIS ONE. YES. HARRY WOULD YOU LIKE TO BRING UP? CAN YOU BRING UP THE GOOGLE MAP OF THE AREA FOR US?

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YOU'RE UNABLE. I SHOULD BE ABLE. TO SO A LOT OF THE LETTERS WERE REFERRING TO A GATE BETWEEN THE CREEK VIEW AND THE META RANCH SUBDIVISION RIGHT THERE. AND.

HOWEVER, THERE IS A ADDITIONAL KIND OF SUBDIVISION ENTRANCE WHILE WHICH IS LOCATED. RIGHT HERE. THE ENTRANCE TO THE MEADOW RANCH SUBDIVISION. THERE'S ANOTHER. ANOTHER SCREENING. GENERAL ENTRANCE THERE. THE MAIN ENTRANCE IS OUT OF THE SOUTH, SO IT'S OUTSIDE THE ZONING AREA. THERE IS ANOTHER ENTRANCE THERE WITHIN THE BOUNDARY OF THE RESUME.

THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY? THAT OWNED BY THE H AWAY. THERE IS A. PROPERTIES ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, OKAY? ANYONE ELSE. OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF. WE MAY GET TO HAVE YOU BACK UP IS THEIR APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT? YES. GOOD EVENING, MR CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION MARTIN SANCHEZ, 2000 NORTH MCDONALD SUITE 100 MCKINNEY, TEXAS 75071 HERE IN MCKINNEY.

UM I WAS GOING TO JUMP IN BASICALLY TO COVER THE ITEMS WHERE WE LEFT THIS CASE OFF THE LAST TIME, BUT REALLY FOR MR HECKLER AND COMMISSIONER TAYLOR, WHO WORKED HERE. GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH SOME OF THOSE POINTS AGAIN IF I COULD. THIS IS WE GET OUR PRESENTATION UP HERE. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. BE ABLE TO USE THE CLICKER, MARTIN. YEAH, SO. THERE WE GO.

SUBJECT PROPERTY COMMISSIONERS IS GENERALLY WHERE THAT STAR IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTH EAST QUADRANT OF THAT MEDICAL DISTRICT AREA ALONG 3 80. SUBJECT PROPERTY. IN ESSENCE, THIS IS A BETTER DESCRIPTION OF IT, SIR, EH? SERVES IS THE FIRST EIGHT THE FIRST LOT OR THE FIRST PART OF THIS. THIS LOT HERE, ISN'T TO EXISTING OFFICE BUILDINGS. SECOND LOT.

HERE. IS AN EXISTING HOME. FOR A ZWEI WERE DISCUSSING RELATIVE TO THE WALL. THERE IS A MASONRY SCREENING WALL THAT GENERALLY IS IN THAT LOCATION. SEPARATING THOSE TWO LATTES AS WE'VE DISCUSSED. SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY NON RESIDENTIAL USES, EXCEPT TO THE SOUTH. ON THE EAST SIDE. YOU HAVE PD LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. ON THE WEST SIDE HERE. THIS AREA YOU'VE GOT A VETERINARIAN CLINIC ZONE C PLANT CENTER, WHICH IS A HOLDOVER FROM THE LAST WOLF 70, WHICH IS THE MOST INTENSIVE ZONE E THAT WE HAVE HERE, MCKINNEY NORMALLY WE RE RESERVES. HE PLANS CENTER FOR THINGS LIKE HOME DEPOT. LOWE'S TARGET CENTERS THAT KIND OF ACTIVITY, BUT THAT IS WHAT THE ZONING IS. THAT PARTICULAR? A LOT HAS ANOTHER SCREENING WALL GENERALLY DOWN HERE, SO THE SEA PLANTS CENTER IN CAPSULES ALL OF THAT IN THAT AREA. ALSO SEE PLANTS CENTER IS THE MUFFLER SHOP THAT IS RIGHT HERE IN THIS AREA. AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE COMMERCIAL APPEAR, AND THEN MANY WAREHOUSE AND STORAGE BACK HERE ALL ADJACENT TO THOSE LOTS THAT YOU SEE IN THAT GENERAL AREA. SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING TODAY IS TO HAVE CONSIDERATION FOR THE TWO LATTES AND QUESTION A TOTAL OF FOUR ACRES, SO NOT LARGE ENOUGH TO PUT A GROCERY STORE, WHICH IS TYPICALLY ON 15 TO 20 ACRES. NOT LARGE ENOUGH TO PUT A HOME DEPOT OR A WALMART ALREADY THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ON FOUR ACRES WE TYPICALLY SEE A

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MIXTURE OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND OFFICE AND YOU THINK FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. GENERAL OFFICE, BUT THAT'S ABOUT WHAT WE CAN GET ON ABOUT FOUR ACRES GENERALLY, RULE OF THUMB IS THAT WE USE FOR EVERY ACRE YOU GET ABOUT 25% YIELD OF ACTUAL BUILDING. SO ON ONE ACRE WE WOULD GET ABOUT 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF ACTUAL BUILDING SPACE, SO ON FOUR ACRES WE MIGHT GET MIGHT GET ABOUT 35 TO 40,000 SQUARE FEET OF ACTUAL GROSSLY CIVIL AREA. SO THAT'S KIND OF IN A NUTSHELL. WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY. I THINK COMMISSIONER HECKLER I COULD TO PICK UP ON YOUR QUESTION BECAUSE I WON'T EXPLAIN IT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. SOME OF THE DISCUSSION WHEN ARRIVE A LITTLE BIT AT OUR LAST MEETING, I WAS ASKED A QUESTION OR I WAS REFERRING TO A COMMENT THAT WAS MADE ABOUT CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC. THAT'S REALLY WHAT LED TO THE DISCUSSION ON THE GATE. AND SO LET ME EXPLAIN IF I COULD, SIR. METAL RANCH ROAD FOR A LONG TIME WAS ACTUALLY A DEAD ENDS. COLD SACK. PROBABLY 1200. MAYBE 2000, LINEAR FEET MUCH LONGER THAN UNDER TYPICAL COLDEST ACTOR WE ALLOWED TODAY BUT THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS PLANTED. WHEN THE SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH CREEK VIEW. WAS DEVELOPED. IT WAS BASICALLY ONE LARGE COLD. A SACK OF ABOUT PLUS OR MINUS 30 ACRES. SO YOU KEEP IT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT RULES. THEY PUT IN A CRASH. KATE BETWEEN METAL RANCH AND CREEK FOR YOU TO THE SOUTH. CRACKS SKATE IS NOT AN ENTRANCE TO METAL RANCH AND IT ONLY SERVES FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES ONLY. I WAS REFERRING TO RELATIVE TO CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC TO SAY AS IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC. TECHNICAL ANSWER WOULD BE TO PUT THE CRASH. KATE UP HERE AND THEN TO ALLOW THE METAL RANCH SUBDIVISION, FOLKS TO EXIT OUT THAT LOCATION WHERE THE CRASH GATE IS TODAY. SO THAT THOSE RESIDENTS COULD MOVE ON TO LAKE FOREST. MAKE A RIGHT LEFT. IF THEY GO NORTH BOUND. THEN THEY CAN GO TO A PROTECTED INTERSECTION. THAT HASN'T THAT SIGNAL EYES. WHICH MAKES ALL THE TECHNICAL REASONS WORK. BUT I WAS NOT PROPOSING. THAT IS PART OF THE ZONE AND WE SHOULD DO THAT. I WAS MERELY REFERRING TO FROM A TECHNICAL PERSPECTIVE AND TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND FLOW. THAT IS THE TECHNICALLY SOUND SOLUTION. THINKS THAT SOME FOLKS MAY HAVE GOTTEN CONFUSED THAT THIS ZONING WAS WAS PREDICATED OR WAS CREATING THAT THAT ISSUE TO BE SOLVED IN THAT IN THAT WAY. IF NOBODY WANTS TO BE WITH THAT GATE, AND THE CITY DOESN'T WANT TO MOVE THAT GATE. THERE'S NO NEED TO MOVE THAT GATE. I WAS JUST REFERRING TO THAT. THAT FAIR, MR. ASKE ROCKS. OKAY GREAT. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY. I WANT TO LOOK AT A DIFFERENT VIEW. IF I COULD. THIS KIND OF PUT IT, MAURIN TWO BLOCKS THAT ARE EASY TO SEE. THE CURRENT GATE OVER THE CURRENT FENCE. I SHOULD SAY SITS RIGHT HERE. THERE IS NO HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION. IN THE TYPICAL WAY THAT WE DISCUSS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TODAY THAT WALL DOESN'T BELONG ON A COMMON AREA. IT'S NOT MANAGED BY H AWAY. IT'S ACTUALLY THE FENCE OF THIS PROPERTY HERE. IF TODAY THIS PROPERTY OWNER WANTED TO TAKE THAT FENCE DOWN. THEY COULD MEAN JUST EATS THERE, RIGHT. IT'S THEIR FENCE, AND THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO PUT UP ANYTHING. JUST IT IS WHAT IT IS. UH SOME TIME AGO, THE RESIDENTS OF METAL RANCH, I THINK IN IN TRYING TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS TO THEMSELVES, SOME OF THEM ENTERED INTO AN H AWAY TYPE OF ARRANGEMENT. HIS FILE THAT THE STATE I MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING THAT THAT IT WAS D CERTIFIED BY THE STATE BECAUSE THAT'S THE INFORMATION I HAD. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'VE RE CERTIFIED. BUT I'VE GOT TO POINT OUT A CLARITY.

CLARIFICATION ITEM ON THAT. THAT IS NOT A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION THAT ENCUMBER EVERY LOT WITHIN METAL RANCH AS AN EXAMPLE. THIS IS THE EXAMPLE THAT I USED PREVIOUSLY.

COMMISSIONER DOKE AND I COULD ENTER INTO HOME ASSOCIATION. BUT IF HE AND I ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT SIGNED THAT DOCUMENT, WE CAN'T USE THOSE RULES TO LET'S SAY GOVERN. COMMISSIONER HEAD BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T SIGN THE DOCUMENT, SO YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT A PARTY OF IT. SO THERE'S SOMETHING CLEAR DISTINCTIONS THERE THAT THAT SHOULD BE NOTED. AS I SAID, THOSE ARE GENERALLY THE LAND USES ALL THE WAY AROUND. THE EAST SIDE IS TRULY THE MOST.

KIND OF YOU KNOW, RISKY. FROM A DEVELOPED FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE IT'S INDUSTRIAL AND CERTAINLY THE SEA PLANTS CENTER. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED NOT TO DISCUSS HERE SHORTLY. THE VETERINARIAN DOESN'T PLAN TO DO ANYTHING

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MORE INTENSIVE THAN TO EXPAND HIS VETERINARY CLINIC UNTIL MORE PERMANENT SOLUTION. RIGHT NOW HE'S IN A COMBINATION OF SOME DOUBLE WIDES AND LONG TERM THAT JUST DOESN'T WORK FOR HIM.

BUT HE PLANS AND JUST CONTINUED TO BE THERE. SO WITH THAT. HERE'S. ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HEARD AT THE LAST MEETING WAS WAS CLARIFICATION OF THE AMBIGUITY OF WHAT DO WE PROPOSE? AND A BIG PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT I LAID OUT FOR THE COMMISSION AND FOR THE RESIDENTS AT AT THE MEETING. WHERE THAT WE REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO, BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A ZONING YET SO. IT'S THIS PARTICULAR SET OF PROPERTIES, THE TWO PROPERTIES ONE BEING ZONE ONE BEING ZONED AG AG, YOU COULD DO OFFICE, BUT UNDER WHAT RULES? ALL THAT MADE IT VERY, VERY COMPLICATED. THAT'S WHY WE HAD NEVER FORWARDED OR SUBMITTED TO THE CITY OF FORMAL SITE PLAN BECAUSE FIRST AS YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER HECKLER COMMISSIONER TAYLOR THAN THAT YOU HADN'T HEARD THIS CASE BEFORE. WE GO THROUGH THE ENTITLEMENT FACE FIRST FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'VE GOT, AND THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT MARKET WISE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET AND WHAT WE CAN DO. YOU LAID OUT ALL THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS IN THIS PARTICULAR LAND PLAN. THE VETERAN, THE VETERINARIAN DOCTOR THERE, AND MR ANDRE, WHO OWNS THESE PROPERTIES, AND MR ANDRE LIVES RIGHT HERE IN THIS LOCATION, WHICH IS THE NEXT JASON. RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OF THE SOUTH. THAT SEEMS TO BE THE MOST LOGICAL WAY TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY. VETERINARIAN CLINIC IS WELL THOUGHT OUT. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THEY INTENDED TO DO. FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE ON HERE. WELL, WE TOOK A TO SAY, WHAT COULD WE DO THAT? I THINK, MR MCCALL. YOU ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS, AND I WAS ON THE FLY, AND I SAID, WELL, YOU COULD DO A B D. C YOU COULD DO A POLICY YOU COULD DO B PLUS, I MEAN, THERE WAS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF POSSIBILITIES. SO I TOOK. I WENT BACK AND SAID, OK, WHAT IS THE MOST LIKELY AND TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION MORE MORE FULLY AND REALLY THOUGHT OUT. IF WE WERE TO RECEIVE THE ZONING, FAVORABLE APPROVAL FROM THE CITY, THE MOST LIKELY WOULD BE COMMERCIAL RETAIL THERE THAT LOCATION AND THEN UH, OFFICE. IN THIS LOCATION. NOW HERE'S SOME OF THE AMBIGUITY GET, MR MCCALL. SO I APOLOGIZE. OKAY? THAT AREA COMMISSIONER HECKLERS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'VE SEEN US UP HERE LOTS AND YOU ASK, ALWAYS, VERY POINTED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DETAILS. WE HAVE ENOUGH SPACE WHERE WE COULD DO, PLUS OR MINUS 15,000 SQUARE FEET. NOW THAT COULD BE ONE BUILDING OF 15,000 SQUARE FEET. THAT COULD BE TWO BUILDING OF 75 75. WHERE COULD BE THREE BUILDINGS, A 55 AND FIVE. NOW I COULD DO THE MATH UNTIL I SAID YOU KNOW, 15 BUILDINGS OF 1000 SQUARE FEET. BUT THAT'S NOT PRACTICAL. WE KNOW THAT SO I SHOWED THAT REALLY TO SAY WHAT WOULD THE SPACE LOOK LIKE IN THE EVENT THAT WE ACTUALLY DEVELOPED IT LIKE THIS? WE THEN AT THE LAST MEETING, COMMISSIONER WATLEY. I THINK YOU WERE THE MOST ADAMANT ABOUT US MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS. WE DIDN'T MEET WITH THE RESIDENTS THAT NOBODY FELT COMFORTABLE ABOUT MOVING FORWARD AND I RESPECT AND APPRECIATE THAT. YOU MADE THAT COMMENT. SO WE MADE ATTEMPTS TO MEET WITH THE RESIDENTS AND I WAS ABLE TO FINALLY AFTER ABOUT THREE WEEKS, BUT WE HAD THE STO STORM IN THERE, SO WE KIND OF HAVE TO BE RACE. THAT ONE. IT WAS A CRAZY TIME. SO I MET WITH MR GORMAN. WHO BASICALLY WAS THROWN TO ELECTED APPOINTED RECOMMENDED HE KIND OF MEET WITH ME. THEN HE WOULD TAKE THE INFORMATION BACK TO THE RESIDENTS. THERE WERE MAYBE HAVE SOME DIALOGUE BACK AND FORTH. WELL WE MET FOR ABOUT 15 MINUTES OR SO, AND WE NEVER GOT ANYTHING BEYOND THE 15 MINUTES. I GAVE HIM THIS LAND PLAN BECAUSE IT AGAIN, I WOULD SAY, WELL, THAT'S THE MOST LOGICAL. THERE YOU GO. THAT'S THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE AMBIGUITY. MR MCCALL, THERE'S ALWAYS IS AMBIGUITY AND WHAT WE DO A LITTLE BIT. BUT IN THOSE 15 MINUTES, I GAVE THE LAND PLAYING. HE ASKED ME ABOUT PLANTING. I SAID YES, AS STAFF HAS INTIMATED EARLIER. BOTH OF THESE LOTS ARE ACTUALLY PLANTED LOTS. SO I CAN'T REPLANT THEM. LIKE THIS AND JUST KIND OF BREAK IT UP BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY A PLANET LOT. THE ONLY THING I COULD DO IS ACTUALLY PLANTED AS ONE FOUR ACRE LOT SO THAT I COULD DO A DEVELOPMENT THAT MAKES SENSE. FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, EXPLAINED TO MR GORMAN THAT PLATI TYPICALLY IS TO CREATE A LOT OF RECORD OR TO DEAL WITH THINGS LIKE UTILITIES, MINTS, FIRE LANES, ETCETERA, BUT YOU CAN'T DO THE EASEMENTS AND THE FRONT OF THE FIRE LADIES BITS AND ALL THAT. THEY'RE SEPARATE INSTRUMENT WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO DO WITH

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PLANT THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE DO. WHAT'S A LOT OF PLANET? WE JUST USE SEPARATE INSTRUMENTS.

I WOULD THEN WAS ABLE TOL PLANE TO MR WARMER THAN THAT. YOU KNOW, I THINK HE HAD SOME CONCERNS THAT HE WAS VOICING RIGHTFULLY SO CONCERNED FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT MR ANDRE IN PERSONALLY HADN'T MET WITH HIM, AND AS I EXPLAINED, I DON'T THINK MR ANDRE SHIED AWAY FROM MEETING WITH ANYBODY. MR AUDREY'S CERTAINLY WILLING TO TALK TO ANYBODY. WHETHER YOU GET THE RIGHT THE ANSWER YOU WANT. THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY, BUT THAT'S BEEN STRONGER. HE'S A LOVELY GUY. ON EXPLAINED THAT YOU KNOW, LANE DEVELOPMENTS. TECHNICAL SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE EXPLAINING THESE THINGS BECAUSE OF YOUR TASK OF QUESTION ABOUT PLANNING LAW OF ASTRONOMERS DOCUMENT OF THAT HE COULD PROBABLY TELL YOU ABOUT TAX LAW. NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO TELL YOU ABOUT PLANTING LORDS ONLY LAW, SO I EXPLAINED THAT TO HIM AND THEN ULTIMATELY BECAUSE WE REALLY DIDN'T GET TO CAVITY MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE ABOUT THIS. HOW DO YOU MAKE IT BETTER? HOW DO YOU TRULY TAKE. WHAT'S THERE? THE LAND THE REALITY THAT IT'S ON. 3 80 THE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS AND TOGETHER THROUGH DESIGN, HOW DO YOU MAKE IT BETTER? MR GORDON SAID THAT BASICALLY HE WAS CHARGED TO MEETING WITH ME TO TRY TO GET A PICTURE LIKE THIS A LAND PLAN AND THAT HE WOULD REPORT TO THE RESIDENTS, AND MAYBE THERE'D BE SOME COMMENTS BACK. SO, MR WATLEY WE MET WE TRIED TO GET SOMETHING MEANINGFUL, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WHERE ANYWHERE DIFFERENT THAN WE WERE WHEN YOU SENT US BACK TO GO MEET SO, BUT I AM REPORTING EVERYTHING THAT WE DID IF THAT'S FAIR. YEAH. HAVING SAID THAT? MR MCCALL. I KNEW YOU WERE GONNA LET ME OFF THE HOOK WITH THAT BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE, WELL, MARTIN, WHAT YOU GONNA DO? RIGHT SO WE INTERNALLY KIND OF THOUGHT ABOUT SOME REALITIES. ONE OF THE REALITIES IS THAT THIS INTERSECTION THAT IS CURRENTLY ON INTERSECTION. FULLY FULLY SIZE MEDIUM OPENING. ON THE LATEST TEXT GOT PLANS FOR 3 80 IS GOING TO BE CLOSED DOWN. IT IS GOING TO BE A HOODED LEFT. SO YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GO FROM METAL RANCH WEST. EVEN IF YOU WANTED TO PLAY FROGGER AND TRY IT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A VERTICAL HILL VERTICAL CURVE THERE. SO IT IS DANGEROUS, BUT YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT MOVEMENT NO MATTER WHAT, BECAUSE TEXTILE IS CLOSING IT DOWN. SO SEEING THAT. KNOWING THAT KNOWING SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS ALL OF YOUR CONCERNS WE WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING TABLE TO SEE WHAT IS THE BEST THING THAT WE COULD DO. NOT JUST WHAT CAN YOU DO? AND SO WE CAME UP WITH THIS. THIS PARTICULAR DESIGN ENVISIONS A TWO STORY BUILDING. AND I'M STILL COULD ONLY HAVE THE MAXIMUM OF ABOUT 25% PER ACRE BECAUSE YOU'RE LIMITED THAT THAT FIGURE THAT WE USE FROM A RULE OF THUMB PERSPECTIVES BECAUSE THE TIME YOU PARK, A SITE. THAT'S ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN GET ABOUT 25% G L A. HE JUST PARKING TAKES UP A LOT OF SPACE. SO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT WOULD BE A TWO STORY BUILDING. THIS TWO STORY BUILDING. MR MCCALL. I THINK WHAT WE WOULD DO IS THE GROUND FLOOR WOULD BE A MIXTURE OF RETAILING OFFICE BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE APPROPRIATE. COULDN'T GET RETAIL ON SECOND FLOOR. BUT THEN THE SECOND FLOOR WOULD BE ENTIRELY OFFICE BECAUSE THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE BEAST. AND AS WE STUDIED THIS WAY, HAD AN AHA MOMENT. WITH OUR ARCHITECT AND WITH MR ANDRE THIS BUILDING THE LOCATION.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE. IS VERY REMINISCENT OF THE KELLER WILLIAMS BUILDING. THAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF TUCKER HILL. NO, YOU'VE GOT THAT ENTRANCE RIGHT THERE, AND YOU'VE GOT THAT BUILDING THAT HAS THE NEW THE PETRA'S WHEN IT MOVED AND KELLER WILLIAMS, ETCETERA. BECAUSE THAT'S ABOUT ALL YOU COULD GET ON IT ABOUT A BUILDING ABOUT THAT SIZE, I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY I DIDN'T LOOK IT UP, BUT I WOULD VENTURE THAT THAT BUILDING IS PROBABLY ABOUT 40 ABOUT 40,000 SQUARE FEET. PLUS REMIND US IS CORRECT. WOULD YOU AGREE? I DON'T KNOW.

YOU 42 5 THERE. YOU SEE, THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING IT UP. SO THAT'S ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO, SO WE STUDIED IT. WE LIKE IT. WE SAID YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS THE WAY WE'RE GOING. IS, IT JUST MAKES SENSE WHEN YOU WRAP ALL THESE THINGS UP. THEN IN AN EPIPHANY, MR ANDRE SAID IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, AND HE SENT THIS AND THEN HE CALLED ME TO WAKE ME UP AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING SO WE COULD DISCUSS THIS BECAUSE I HAD TWO O'CLOCK. I'M WAITING FIRST CALL. HE HE SAID. WELL, WHAT IF WE INSTEAD OF HAD THE MAJORITY OF THE PARKING HERE AND THE BUILDING CLOSE TO THIS LINE? WHAT IF WE INSTEAD? DID THIS WHAT? I'M SORRY ABOUT THE GRAPHIC THAT IT'S FUZZY. WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO ACTUALLY READ, DRAW IT. SO WE DID THE

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OLD FASHIONED COPY PASTE OR CUTTING PACE. SO WE ROTATED THE BUILDING TO WHERE WE WOULD HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE PARKING BACK HERE. MOVE THE BUILDING CLOSER TO THE FRONT OF THE PARTY LINE, THEREBY INCREASING THE DISTANCE IN THIS DIRECTION. YOU KNOW FOR MANY, POTENTIALLY NEGATIVE IMPACTS LIKE POLLUTION, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS REMIND YOU THAT MR ANDRE ACTUALLY LIVES HERE. SO IF ANYBODY'S GONNA BE IMPACTED, HE WOULD BE THE ONE TO BE MOST IMPACTED. ON SO IN ESSENCE, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT. WE COULD GO EITHER WAY WITH THIS DESIGN. WE LIKE THIS DESIGN, AND WE THINK IT IT. AMELIA RATES A LOT OF CONCERNS. OUT, THE RESIDENTS MAY STILL HAVE CONCERNS THAT I AGAIN I DON'T. CHALLENGE THAT, BUT LACKING MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION. I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW I CAN BETTER IMPROVE THE SITE WHAT WE WOULD DO BECAUSE WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO THIS. MISS ARNOLD. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE IF WE DID THIS BECAUSE THE TRACK LINES OF THOSE PLANET LOTS GENERALLY SITS THERE, WE WOULD HAVE TO REPLANT THOSE TWO LATTES INTO ONE LAKH. IN ORDER TO SET A BUILDING LIKE THAT, AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE HIS OWN CONSISTENT FOR IT TO BE ONE ZONING SO THAT I COULD DO THAT.

OTHERWISE THE BUILDING IS ON ONE THING IN THE PARKING LOT, HIS OWN SOMETHING ELSE, AND THAT'S NOT A LOT BY CODE, EITHER. THE OTHER THING WE WOULD HAVE TO DO. BYE BYE CODE WOULD HAVE TO BE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO REBUILD THIS READING WAR OR BUILD A SCREENING WALL AT THAT LOCATION. FOLLOWING KURDS STANDARDS, EVERYTHING THAT APPLIES I THINK I MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE TO BUILD THIS ONE BECAUSE THE ADJACENT PROPERTY HIS OWN INDUSTRIAL BUT I WOULD LET YOU KNOW, PLANNING STAFF GIVE ME GUIDANCE ON THAT, BUT I THINK I DON'T HAVE TO BUILD SCREAMING WHILE ON THAT ONE. SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU SEE ON THIS PICTURE, WHERE THE VETERINARIAN CLINIC WOULD BE IN ITS NEW CONFIGURATION, AND THEY WOULD HAVE A SCREENING WALL THERE AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE A SCREENING WALL HERE, MR ANDRE LIVES THERE AND THEN THE RESIDENTIAL STARTS HERE AND THEN DOWN HERE. SO I HOPE THAT THAT ADDRESSES EVERYBODY WHO WAS HERE AT THAT MEETING. AND THEN FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S THAT WERE HERE AT THAT MEETING, MR COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. COME MR HECKLER. I HOPE THAT GIVES YOU A GOOD KIND OF WRAP UP WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY. SO WITH THAT, UH, MR KIRA WOULD ANSWER THE QUESTION. OH, I APOLOGIZE. MR CHAIR. WHAT ARE THE OTHER THINGS THAT IT WAS ASKED OR THAT WAS MENTIONED AT THE MEETING WAS WHAT THE SURROUNDING USES IN MORE DETAIL AND I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO GET THIS INTO THAT PRESENTATION, SO I HAVE IT IF I MADE WRITE IT TO YOU, MISS ARNOLD. GREAT.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR. ALL THESE LEGAL DOCUMENTS. TOOK THIS SNAPSHOT LITERALLY LIKE WHAT YOU WERE SEEING. WHEN MISS RAMEY PUT UP GOOGLE EARTH. DID IT, BUT I DIDN'T DO THE AERIAL VIEW DID THE LAND OF YOU AND IN THE LAND VIEW IT HAS ALL OF THE LITTLE PINPOINTS. OF WHAT'S OUT THERE. NOW. OBVIOUSLY I IGNORED ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS TO THE WEST OF LAKE FOURS. I JUSTIN NUMERATOR, THE 10 OR SO LAND. YOU SAYS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL AND THIS IS AGAIN IT RIGHT OFF OF GOOGLE EARTH. THE ANIMAL HOSPITAL. THAT'S THE VETERINARIAN MUFFLER SHOP. RICE POT CONVENIENCE STORE WITH THE SUBWAY. CHICKEN EXPRESS.

MCKINNEY PEDIATRICS PHYSICIAN'S OFFICE. ON ALLIANCE BANK. INTERESTINGLY MR CHAIR IF I COULD THERE WAS AVALON MEMORY CARE, ALZHEIMER'S CARE UNIT. THAT APPARENTLY IS IN THE MIDDLE RANT SUBDIVISION. SO THAT WENT TOWARDS THAT ALL THAT DISCUSSION OF HIS OFFICE ALLOWED AN EGG OR NOT, PRESUMABLY, IT'S ALLOWED BECAUSE THERE'S A MEMORY CARE THEY'RE ALREADY IN THE SUBDIVISION. SO WITH THAT, MR CHAIRED COMMISSIONERS. I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. LIKE BREAKFAST. SANCHEZ QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. SO I GOT ONE FOR YOU. SO THEY GOT THIS TWO STORY BUILDING IN PROPOSING HERE IS THE GAME PLAN FOR YOU GUYS TO GO DEVELOP THIS? YES. SOON OR IS IT GONNA BE SOLD TO A DON'T KNOW, MISS MR ANDRE SPENT WAY TOO MUCH MONEY AND TIME AT THAT LOCATION. HE'S NOT MOVING FOR THAT LOCATION. WE AS WE DISCUSSED THE LAST TIME ENTITLEMENTS ONE THING SITE PLANNING IS ANOTHER THING CONCEPT. WE'RE NOT DOING. WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL WE SOLVE THE SEWER PROBE ON. THAT IS JUST GONNA BE PART OF LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE. AS DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES AND THE PIECES OF INSTRUMENT INFRASTRUCTURE GET AT IT IT WILL THIS BECOME MORE OF A VIABLE APPROACH. THAT

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EVERYTHING IS TO YOUR QUESTION, MR WOODRUFF, TODAY'S. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS. AND YOU HAVE LIKE THE SEWER PROBLEM? YES SIR. IF I COULD LET ME. I WANT TO DO THIS. AND MR HACKLER WAS AN ENGINEER. I'M GONNA SKIP A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF, BUT YOU'LL GET GENERALLY SPEAKING, THERE'S A SEWER LINE THAT COMES THIS WAY HERE, RIGHT. YOU COULD SEE THERE'S THE HIGH POINT. SO YOU SEE WHY I DREW IT ON THIS SIDE. THAT SEWER LINE CUBS TO THAT POINT THERE THE CHALLENGE HAS BEEN WITH THE OLD BRINKMAN PROPERTY FOR ALL WES, WHO WERE AROUND AND IT'S BEEN LOOKING AT THIS FOR SOME TIME. IS THERE IS THERE IS A STUB HERE TO THIS LOCATION. BUT THE SLOPE OF THIS LINE FROM HERE TO HERE DOESN'T REALLY WORK FOR THE ENTIRE DRAINAGE BASIN OF ALMOST 2000 ACRES. NORTH OF 3 80. SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION OVER TIME AS TO EITHER RUN A PARALLEL. OR BASICALLY THEN DROPPED SLOPE SOMEWHAT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T CATCH UP HERE AND IT ACTUALLY MAKE THE WHOLE SYSTEM WORK. SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, WHERE THIS PROPERTY NATURALLY SEWERS YOU CAN SEE THERE'S THE SADDLE IN THAT VERTICAL CURVING 3 80. I WAS DISCUSSING THIS NATURALLY WANTS TO GO THIS WAY. MR ANDRE AND THE DOCTOR, THE VETERINARY DOCTOR BACKING AND I WANT TO SAY 2017 2018 ISH. I COULD BE OFF BY A YEAR. THEY HIRED A NEW ENGINEER, NOT US. I KNOW OF IN JANUARY OF FACT, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MIGHT REMEMBER THAT NAME? THEY HIRED MR JANUARY TO DESIGN THE SEWER LINE FROM HERE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO WHERE IT INTERCEPTS IN THE NATURAL BASIN. UH IN MR ANDRE AND THE VETERINARIAN WERE WILLING TO JUST TO PAY FOR IT. AND THEN ALLOW ANY RESIDENT WHO WANTED TO TIE IN IF THEY SO DESIRED, BUT THAT WOULD BE ON THEIR CAUSE. BUT THEY WERE GOING TO PAY FOR THAT LINE. UH THOSE PLANS WERE SUBMITTED. HONESTLY I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WERE EVER PERMITTED PERMITTED THE WAY WE PERMIT TODAY, BUT BACK THEN IT WAS A LOT MORE LIKE YEAH, IT LOOKS GOOD. GO AHEAD. YOU KNOW, HERE'S COMMENTS BACK AND FORTH, IT LOOKS GOOD.

ETCETERA, SO IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, WHEN THE SEWER SOLUTION OCCURS, IT WILL PROBABLY OCCUR SOMEWHERE THIS WAY. BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THESE TWO TRANSMISSION LINES END UP AT THE SAME PLACE, SO WE'RE REALLY NOT JUMPING BASINS LIKE LIKE IF WE WERE GOING INTO TWO DIFFERENT HILLS, IT'S JUST WE'RE CONNECTING IT TO DIFFERENT PLACES. BUT THAT'S PROBABLY HOW IT'S GONNA BE SONG, SIR. BUT I DON'T KNOW FOR A FACT. IT WILL BE MANY YEARS OF STUDYING. MR FURTHER QUESTIONS. WHEN, WHILE WE'RE ON THE SEWER LINE, MARTIN CANYON AND IT'S A TIMING QUESTION. UM AND YOU KNOW BETTER THAN THAN MOST OF TIMING OF SUCH A SEWER LINE TO SERVE. THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE IN YEARS OFF. YEARS. PLURAL YEARS? YEAH.

I MEAN, LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, GOOD QUESTION, MR CHAIR. LET'S SAY WE WERE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS. THERE'S A DESIGN ASPECT. THERE'S A COST ASPECT. THERE'S AN EASTMAN ASPECT. AND THEN YOU DON'T GO SPEND THAT MONEY AND JUST LEAVE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE GROUND.

AND THEN HOPE FOR THIS. YOU KIND OF ALL HAS TO GO TOGETHER AND FROM A COMMERCIAL PERSPECTIVE. THAT'S A YEAR'S PROCESS. THAT'S NOT AN OVERNIGHT. THAT'S NOT A SIX MONTHS. I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME. S SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY. SORRY OVER THE YEARS PLURAL. GOOD. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS. ARE THERE. GOT ONE MORE. IN A METAL RANCH ROAD. IT'S NOT A THROUGH STREET IS ERNIE STREET OR STREET IMPROVEMENTS OR ANYTHING PLANNED FOR THE TRAFFIC WITH YOUR DEVELOPMENT, SO RECALL AS I SAID, MENTAL RANCH ROAD IS STILL A DEAD END. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT, SO IT WAS A DEAD END. SO THERE'S NO REAL CUT THROUGH, BUT THE RESIDENTS HAVE INDICATED I'M SURE DOES HAPPEN, WHERE SOME OF SOMEBODY MAYBE AT THE VET PICKING UP THEIR DOG, AND THEY SAY, I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH 3 80. THAT'S A MASS.

LET ME GO THIS WAY, AND I'LL CATCH A SIDE STREET. THEY GET DOWN HERE REALIZED THERE'S NO WAY OUT, SO I'M SURE THAT HAPPENS. THAT'S NOT REALLY CUT THROUGH, BUT I'M SURE IT HAPPENS. SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO PLANT THIS. I'M NOT REALLY SURE THAT THE VET WOULD HAVE TO PLAN BUT HE MAY HAVE TO. WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVE METAL RANCH ROAD IN THIS AREA. YOU REGARDLESS BECAUSE OF THE PLANNING LAW. SO THAT THERE WOULD BE SAID THAT WE'D HAVE TO DO THAT'S THE AREA. I WAS REFERRING TO NOT DO SO THERE WILL BE IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT AREA TO ACCOMMODATE THE TRAFFIC TO DEVOTE. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED

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TO IS JUST WELL, YOU'RE ON THIS RIGHT, IS CURRENTLY THAT'S WHERE THE DRIVEWAY CUT IS TO THOSE TWO BUILDINGS THAT SIT RIGHT HERE. UH NOT NOT THAT I HAVEN'T ASKED MRS ARNOLD AND HER TEAM, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY WAY AND YOU KNOW WHAT THAT THERE WOULD ALLOW THAT THIS DRIVEWAY CUT. CONTINUE THERE THAT'S WHY WE'VE SHOWED IT DOWN HERE FOR STACKING PURPOSES, ETCETERA. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THE QUESTIONS YOU WANT. THANK YOU.

MR SANCHEZ. YES? IF YOU WILL TAKE NOTES, AND WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS. FOR YOU. OKAY? ANYTHING BEFORE WE START WITH PUBLIC HEARING. READY. GOOD. OKAY? WE HAVE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF CARDS FROM CITIZENS. MOST LOOKS LIKE THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. I WILL READ YOUR NAME IN THE ORDER THEY WERE GIVEN TO ME. AND THEN WHEN WE THREW THESE CARDS IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE, SPEAK, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO REMIND EVERYBODY HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR CONCERNS. THE FIRST NAME IS ROBERT MC CLOSE.

APOLOGIZE THAT'S NOT CLOSE. IS IT OKAY FOR ME TO TAKE THIS OFF BY SPEAK? I USED TO THAT, UM THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE PLANE COMMISSION. MY NAME'S ROBERT MC CLOSE. I'M AN ATTORNEY. I WAS HIRED BY THE METAL RANCH HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER AND I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING REAL QUICK. EVERYBODY WHOSE LIVES IN THE SUBDIVISION LIVES IN THE SUBDIVISION. COULD YOU ALL STAND UP? JUST TO MAKE THOSE APPRECIATE YOUR ENCOURAGING EVERYONE IF YOU COULD TALK TO US. YES SIR. I THINK I JUST WANT TO GET IT. I TOTALLY GET IF YOUR FOCUS FOCUS THIS WAY. YES, SIR. AND NOW SINCE I'M GOING TO LOOK ATYOU, ANYONE WHO IS OPPOSED WHO LIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. COULD YOU STAY STANDING? ANYBODY WHO'S IN FAVOR OF THIS AND LIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? COULD YOU SIT DOWN? YOU'RE YOUR CREDIT'S GOING THE WRONG WAY WAY. EVERYBODY WHO IS OPPOSED TO THIS SONY CASE, PLEASE REMAIN STANDING. SORRY. YOU WILL BE SHORTLY POINT. OKAY, NOW Y'ALL CAN SIT DOWN PLACE. SO I'LL GET RIGHT TO THE POINT. I'VE DONE A LOT OF MUNICIPAL LAW STOOD IN FRONT OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONS AND CITY COUNCILS OF SERVED ON CITY COUNCIL. I KNOW WHAT YOU'LL LOOK AT WHAT YOU DEAL WITH NUMBER ONE IS YOU WANT INCREASE YOUR TAX BASE. YOU WANT TO LET SOMEBODY WHO HAS LAND BE ABLE TO DEVELOP LAND? ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. YOU'RE ALWAYS LOOKING IMPROVING YOUR CITY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT IF I MAKE A ZONING CHANGE IF I ALLOW CERTAIN USES OF I ALLOW CERTAIN THINGS AND MY IMPACTING A PRE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD.

RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO SUCH AN EXTENT THAT IT'LL HAVE AH NEGATIVE IMPACT ON MY PREVIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS, AND DOES IT START TO HARM MY CITY DOESN'T START. TO DETERIORATE. THE VITALITY OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD'S WHEN YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS SO CLEARLY AND UNIFIED IN OPPOSITION TO A REQUEST LIKE THIS, THEN YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF. ARE THEY BEING REASONABLE? PLAYING COMMISSION MEMBERS AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD TO SIT THERE AND GO.

DO THEY JUST NOT WANT ANYTHING? THEY WANT NOTHING. THERE ARE THEY BEING REASONABLE OR IS WHAT'S BEING ASKED? UNREASONABLE IS WHAT'S BEING ASKED HARMFUL TO THEIR LIVES.

TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. DOES IT START TO DETERIORATE THE VITALITY NEIGHBORHOOD AND LET ME MAKE A QUICK ARGUMENT? SINCE I ONLY HAVE THREE MINUTES? UM, PROBABLY ABOUT TWO MINUTES LEFT.

LET ME GO THROUGH THIS NUMBER. YOU GOT IT. FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE COMMISSIONER HACKER THAT THEY WOULD RE PLATT THE PROPERTY, SO THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO MATTER RANCH. MAYBE THEY RE PLATT. MAYBE THEY DON'T NUMBER TO SEE TWO IS NOT YOUR LEAST IMPACTFUL COMMERCIAL ZONING. ITS C ONE WHICH IS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, TOTALLY APPLICABLE AND MAKES PERFECT SENSE FOR THAT FIRST LOT NEXT TO 3 80 SEE TO BUY. IT'S VERY STATEMENT SAYS THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AT THE INTERSECTION OF TWO ARTERIALS. A LARGER SERVING AREA. THIS IS MUCH OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THESE THANK YOU, MR NICHOLAS. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THANK YOU. CARD BY GORMAN. MR GORMAN WAS SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION. CHAIRMAN MIRRORS THAT COMMISSION MY MIKE GORMAN.

I RESIDE IN 1910 METAL RANCH ROAD. WHICH IS THE FOURTH PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THE DEVELOPMENT

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THERE ON ON THAT PARTICULAR SIDE AND RELATION TO THE PROPERTIES THAT QUESTION. I AM THE PRESIDENT, NEIGHBOR, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BY THE RANCHER STAGES WE REFORMED AS A GROUP OF RESIDENTS JUST TO LOOK OUT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TAKE KEEP TRACK OF THINGS.

THEY'RE GOING ON NEIGHBORHOOD AND PRESENT IT TO THE NEIGHBORS SO THAT WE COULD MAKE SURE THEY WERE ALL AWARE OF CERTAIN THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DON'T COLLECT DUES OR AIN'T LIKE THAT. AND DO THAT. ANYTHING ELSE LIKE A NORMAL GETAWAY DOES WE HAVE VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED THIS. THE LOT, 20, WHICH IS THE CURRENT ONE HAS HAS THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS ON IT. THAT'S FINE WITH US. YOU KNOW, IT'S A SINGLE STORY BUILDINGS IS NOT INTRUSIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AT 19. HE WANTS TO MAKE THAT COMMERCIAL, MR SANCHEZ. SO SOME POSSIBILITIES. THESE ARE ALL CONCEPTS. YOU'RE NOT SET IN STONE. SEE TO IT. HE CAN BUILD A 45 FT BUILDING ON THAT. THAT'S PRETTY INTRUSIVE. NO MATTER WHAT SCREENING YOU DO, THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING OVER THAT THAT WALLET US. PLUS HAVE A LOT OF POTENTIAL OF TRAFFIC AND OTHER LIGHT AND OTHER TRUTHS OF AREAS INTO THIS INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS A GREAT DEVELOPMENT, MULTIPLE ACRE LOTS, MULTIPLE HOMES. UH WELL, WELL THOUGHT OF HOMES IN THIS AREA. WE HAVE THIS IN A MEDICAL DISTRICT. HE'S THE TYPE OF HOMES OF POSITIONS WILL LOOK AT TWO TO RESIDE IN CLOSE TO THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY THERE AS WELL. YOU NEED THOSE TYPE OF HOMES AVAILABLE. HE'S NOT COOKIE CUTTER HOMES IN A VERY HIGH, DENSE DEVELOPMENT HERE.

THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD YOU SHOULD PRESERVE. IT'S ONLY ONE OF TWO LIKE THIS IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN DOWN THAT ROAD THERE. IF YOU HAVEN'T I SUGGEST YOU GO LOOK AT IT SOMETIME. SEE WHAT THIS GUY OF THIS KIND OF THING CAN HAPPEN HERE. MR ANDRE OWNS THOSE TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY ON OWNS THE NEXT ONE. WHAT'S TO SAY HE COMES BACK TOMORROW. IT WANTS TO DO ALL 36 ERIC HERE. BLOCK. BUT YOU GIVE ME EVEN WAR ADVANTAGE OF BUILDING EVEN MORE EXTENSIVELY ON THAT. NO. ALL THINGS ARE CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW GOOD. HE SAID THAT MR ANY DONE MYSELF? SOMEONE COMES BY WITH THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF MONEY. I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF HE WOULD SELL. OKAY, SO THERE'S NO GUARANTEES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S WHY WE OPPOSE THIS. THERE'S NO GUARANTEES OF WHAT IT'S GONNA DO. IT LOOKED LIKE CONCEPTS ARE CONCEPTS. IT'S NOT SET IN STONE. SO WE OPPOSE ANY INTRUSION INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT.

ALL WE WANT TO KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS. IT'S KIND OF HASAAN ISR RIGHT NOW, AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. SO WE ASK THAT THE COMMISSION TURNED DOWN THIS REQUEST. LET IT BE WHAT IT IS.

AND GO FORWARD. RIGHT? THANK YOU, MR GORMAN. THANK YOU FOR TAKING ON THE LOAD OF REPRESENTING OTHER HOMEOWNERS OUT THERE. EX CARD IS WRITTEN MCDANIEL SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION. HERE. WE CALL IT SOMETHING OF THE COMMISSION. I THINK YOU'VE HAD ME HERE, NOT RICK MCDANIEL, 18 41 METAL WRENCH. STATES. THIRD HOUSE ON THE RIGHT. JUST COME DOWN THIS ROAD. I'M HERE TO ADAMANTLY OPPOSE. THIS CHANGES OWN FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. NUMBER ONE HAS MR GORAN MAYBE OUR ELECTED SPOKESPERSON FOR A MEETING THAT. IT WAS NOT GIVEN MUCH CREDIBILITY BY MR SANCHEZ. I GUARANTEE YOU HE HAS THE SUPPORT OF ALL OF US IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. IN REPRESENTING WHAT WE DESIRE. THE. THE MEETING THAT TOOK PLACE BETWEEN MR SANCHEZ WAS THE VOICE OUR CONCERNS AND HOPEFULLY WE GET COME TO SOME TYPE OF RESOLUTION THAT WOULD NOT BE A Z A Z INTRUSIVE. WHAT WE GOT WAS NO ANSWERS AS TO WHAT THIS COULD POSSIBLY BE. WE'RE EXTREMELY CONCERNED. WITH WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE IN THE FUTURE. WHAT IT COULD BE AS MR GORMAN SO ELOQUENTLY STATED. A CONCEPT IS ONLY A CONCEPT AND WE ALL KNOW THAT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT IF THERE'S MONEY TO BE MADE UM STRONG. GRAY'S GONNA MAKE THAT MONEY. HE'S GONNA FIND A WAY TO DO THAT EXPANDED AND EXPANDED FURTHER. IF YOU WERE THAT HOUSE, THE 2ND 1ST OR SECOND ONE ON THE RIGHT AND YOU LOOKED UP. YOU HAVE A HUGE PARKING LOT. I DON'T CARE WHERE YOU MOVE THE BUILDING. IF YOU HAVE A HUGE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOU. WAS THAT DID YOUR HALF MILLION $2 MILLION HOME EVERY HOME IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. FALLS IN THAT CATEGORY. WE'RE ONE OF A VERY UNIQUE SET UP HOMES IN THE CITY THAT HAS TWO ACRES WE MOVED IN THERE 10 YEARS AGO BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUENESS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. NOW YOU SEE, IT'S JUST CREEPING OUT OF PEOPLE DOWN IN THOSE AREAS DID NOT DO IT. JUSTICE. AS HE STATED, I'M ABOUT YOU DRIVE OUT THERE, YOU'LL SEE. YOU'RE INTRUDING IN ON EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD OF TWO ACRE LIVES. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A HUGE DEVELOPMENT WITH A 35.

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FOOT BUILDING. HUGE PARKING LOT, ESSENTIALLY ACROSS STREET FROM. IT'S NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THESE HOMEOWNERS IS NOT THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR CITY. I THINK YOU SEE ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT WERE ADAMANTLY OPPOSED. THIS REZONING THE CURRENT ZONING FIT. IT WAS CURRENTLY ZONE THAT WAY ON 3 84 YOUR REASON BECAUSE IT WORKS. NOT TOOK STAND DOWN INTO AN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S ONE OF ONLY TWO LIKE IT IN THE ENTIRE CITY OF MCKINNEY.

SO I HOPE THAT YOU WILL LISTEN TO THE HOMEOWNERS IN THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD AND TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. THE DEVALUATION. YOU'RE YOU'RE ABOUT TO ENCROACH ON EVERY HOME ON THAT STREET. AND TONIGHT WAS THE FIRST I HEARD OF THE DISCUSSION WITH THE GATE AT THE END, I SO HOPED THAT THAT GATE WHICH WAS PLANNED AS AN EMERGENCY, INTERESTING EXIT NEVER BECOMES OPEN TO THE PEOPLE ON THE SOUTH, WHICH IS A FILMS THAT CAME ABOUT MUCH LATER. BECAUSE OUR ROADS ABOUT THE CAMEL RACETRACK IF THAT HAPPENS SO. IF THAT EVER COMES TO BEING WE'RE IN TROUBLE. SO ANYWAY, THAT WAS MY THOUGHTS. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. THANK YOU, DR MCDANIEL FOR BEING HERE. EX CARDED MARK HARRINGTON, SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION. YOU DOING? THANKS FOR HAVING ME. MY NAME'S MARK HARRINGTON. I'M IN 18 20 MEN, A RANCH ROAD. HERE IN MCKINNEY, I'VE BEEN HERE. 15 YEARS IN THE SAME HOUSE HAD TWO KIDS. THEY'RE RAISING. MY TWO KIDS ARE STILL I'M OPPOSED THIS. THEY'RE APPROACHING INDOOR NEIGHBORHOOD. HE LISTED ALL THE THINGS EARLIER. YOU SAW THE MAP UP THERE. HE LISTED THE CHICKEN EXPRESS AND THE HIGH DOCTOR AND EVERYTHING IS BUILT THERE. SINCE WE'VE BEEN THERE, THE BOLERO GAS STATION. IT WASN'T EVEN HERE. WHEN I FIRST MOVED THERE LIKE ALL THESE THINGS WERE COMING IN. AND SO MUCH HAS GROWN UP AROUND US. AND WE'RE JUST ASKING NOT TO TAKE ONE MORE LOT INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WANT TO SEE ANDRE PROSPER. I WANT TO SEE MAKE MONEY. I WANNA SEEM DO WELL AND GROW HIS BUSINESS IN THIS IN THIS COMMUNITY. SAME AS DR SHELTON. THE BET THAT WE ACTUALLY USE IN LOVE. WE WANT A BOAT SEEING BOTH PROSPER, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S GOTTA BE A BETTER WAY IN A BETTER AGREEMENT WE COULD HAVE BETWEEN US AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. TO MAKE THIS WORK FOR THEM BOTH. NOT TAKE AWAY SOME OF THAT FROM US. I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO SAY.

I DO KNOW THAT I'M IN A CONSTRUCTION. I'VE BEEN IN CONSTRUCTION FOR 20 YEARS. I'VE NEVER CAME UP AND WASTED. COUNCIL'S TIME ASKING TO REZONE SOMETHING AND HAD NO IDEA WHAT I WAS GONNA PUT ON HIM. SO, UM, WHEN I ASKED GO TO THE CITY AND ASKING TO REZONE A PLOT FOR ME BECAUSE I KNOW WELL, EXACTLY WHAT I WANT TO PUT ON THE PROPERTY. SO I FIND IT WEIRD THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POSSIBILITIES THAT COULD BE SORT OF, ACTUALLY NO. ONE. WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON DOING SO YOU'LL REST MY TIME. THANK YOU. COMMISSION. AMERICAN NEXT CARD IS CARRIE MCDANIEL. MS MCDANIELS, SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. WE ASSUME MY HUSBAND SAID WE'RE 18 41 MEDAL RANCH ROAD, AND WE'VE KIND OF POURED OUR HEART AND SOUL INTO THAT PLACE FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS. WE DON'T JUST THINK ABOUT US, WE'VE PROBABLY ADDED 25 30 TREES TO THAT PROPERTY. WE EVEN IMPROVE IT IN WAYS THAT WILL BENEFIT PEOPLE LONG AFTER WE'RE GONE. AND I KNOW MR SANCHEZ MENTIONED THAT THERE'S ALREADY A MEMORY CARE ON OUR STREET. BUT YOU HAVE TO IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN DOWN THE STREET, IT'S INSIDE A HOME. YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW. IT'S A BUSINESS. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL HOME, WELL MANICURED.

NO CUSTOMERS. NO PARKING LOTS COMING, YOU KNOW, CARS COMING AND GOING, IT'S INSIDE A HOME, SO IT LOOKS JUST LIKE THE REST OF OUR PROPERTIES. I'M YOU KNOW WHEN YOU WHEN YOU BUY NEXT TO A VACANT LOT, YOU REALIZE SOMETHING DRASTIC MIGHT HAPPEN THERE. AND THAT'S THAT RISK IS ALWAYS ON YOU, BUT FOR IT TO COME INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND POSSIBLY TEAR DOWN A BEAUTIFUL FAMILY HOME. IT WAS PREVIOUSLY INHABITED, YOU KNOW, BUY A FAMILY AND CHILDREN AND HORSES.

YOU DON'T REALLY EXPECT FOR SOMETHING TO GO AS COMMERCIAL ISI TO WHEN IT WAS JUST A BEAUTIFUL HOME WHEN YOU MOVED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, LIKE MY NEIGHBOR MARKS THAT I'VE GOT NOTHING AGAINST THE ANDREI'S WERE ALWAYS VERY CORDIAL WITH THE ANDRES YOU KNOW, I KNOW KEITH AND HIS WIFE, HIS WIFE, THE LOVELY PERSON, I ALSO USE. DR SHELTON IS OUR BIT. LOVE DOCTOR SHELTERED AND EVERYBODY AT HIS BUSINESS DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH, YOU KNOW HIM EXTENDING HIS VETERINARY CLINIC. WE'RE JUST ASKING TO NOT HAVE SOMETHING AS DRASTIC. IT'S C TWO. WE LIKE THE CURRENT ZONING. AND WE THINK THAT C TWO IS TOO BIG OF A RISK AND YOU CAN SHOW BEAUTIFUL OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT LOOK LOVELY ON PAPER ALL DAY LONG. BUT WHAT IF SOMEONE COMES ALONG AND OFFERS LIKE WHAT WAS THE MR ANDREA? LOAD OF MONEY FOR THAT LOT, AND

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THEN THEY ARE WILLING TO DO SOMETHING VERY DRASTIC THAT THE EXTENT OF THE SEA TO WOULD ALLOW, SO WE JUST WE DO ASK THAT WE CAN KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THE WAY IT IS. AND THAT THIS ZONING CHANGE WOULD BE DENIED. THANK YOU, MS MCDANIEL. NEXT CARD IS THAT DANIEL THE SERVANT. SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION. YOU KNOW, FOLKS, MY NAME IS DANIEL HISTORY AND YOU DID VERY WELL WITH THE PRONUNCIATION. I LIVE IN 1901 METAL RANCH ROAD, SO I'M THE SECOND HOUSES. YOU COME DOWN THE STREET ON THE RIGHT SIDE. AND, UH, UH, JUST WANNA EXPRESS MY THOUGHTS. EYES AS YOU STATED, I AM IN OPPOSITION OF IT. I THINK THE ZONING WE HAVE CURRENTLY IS OPTIMAL. WE'VE GOT OFFICE RIGHT THERE. ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD WITH THE STREET.

WE HAVE SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ACTUALLY WORK IN THAT OFFICE COMPLEX WAS NICE OF CONVENIENCE. YOU HEARD LOVE FOLKS USED THE VETERINARIAN. IT'S VERY HOSTING CONVENIENT WITH PHYSICAL BARRIER THERE BETWEEN 2019 HAS BEEN HIGHLIGHTED. CORRECTION WELL, SAID EARLIER THE PHYSICAL BARRIER BASED ON THE CITY ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED WHEN THAT WAS REZONED IS ACTUALLY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF BLOCK 20 TO MAINTAIN THEIR PHYSICAL BARRIER, BUT WITH THE REST OF THE RESIDENTS THAT WAS PART OF THE CITY ORDINANCE THAT WAS IN THE LAST EVIDENCE THAT DURING THE LAST MEETING. SECTION THREE STATES THAT THE PROPERTY OVER THERE WOULD MAINTAIN THAT PHYSICAL BEAR THERE. IT WAS PART OF THE AGREEMENT AND GETTING THE FIRST PART REZONED AND BUILT FOR OFFICE. AND SO I LIKE TO STICK WITH THAT ORIGINAL AGREEMENT THAT WAS MADE WITH THE CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS AT THAT TIME WAS PART OF THAT REZONING. OKAY? SO AGAIN, THE OFFICE MAKES SENSE HAVING OUT THERE ON THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY AND CONVENIENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVING THAT CAPABILITY. VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT ALL COULD BE POTENTIAL WITH SEA TO DIRECTLY BUTTING UP TO A NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN WITH THE DISCUSSION OF THE TWO LATTES, RIGHT, ESPECIALLY WITH C TWO THERE'S NOT A REQUIREMENT TO STATE A 25% YOU CAN GO UP TO A 75% LOAD ON THAT PROPERTY FOR WHAT'S ALLOWABLE IN THE FORESEE TWO AND THERE'S ALSO NO IT REMOVES THE REQUIREMENT FROM ANY TYPE OF SIDE BARRIERS SO THEY COULD BUILD RIGHT UP TO THE PROPERTY RIGHT UP TO THE STREET WITH THAT TYPE OF ZONING. YEAH THEY'RE SAYING, OKAY, THEY'VE GOT FACES MINUTE ACROSS 3 80 THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO OFFSET BUT NOTHING ON THE SIDE WITH THE SEA TO ZONING AND SO THAT CLOSE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD JUST LIKE SUCH VERY CONCERNED, ESPECIALLY AS A RESIDENT, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S MY THOUGHTS I SHOULDN'T SHARE WITH YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR SISTER AND FOR BEING HERE. NEXT CARD IS VINCE GUN, SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION. EVEN MR CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSION MEMBERS. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR SERVING OUR COMMUNITY IN THE CAPACITY TO DO WE APPRECIATE YOU. UM, WE DO HAVE A COMMUNITY WITH MONIKER THAT IS UNIQUE BY NATURE. AND AS YOU'VE SEEN FROM SOME OF THE PICTURES THAT ARE IN MR SANCHEZ'S PRESENTATION. THERE'S A LOT OF COUNTRY THEIR TREES GRASS. LOTS OF SPACE PLACE TO BREATHE PLACE TO RAISE YOUR FAMILY. I'M VINCENT GUN I LIVE IN 1911 METAL RANCH ROAD.

I'M THE PROPERTY THAT IS JUST TO THE SOUTH OF VETERINARY CLINIC AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE ANDRES IS A MATTER OF FACT. UM AND SPEAKING FOR MY FAMILY. WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS, UH, REZONING OF LOTS, 19 AND 20. WHY? WELL KIND OF LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. THE CITY AND THEIR WISDOM, UM, KIND OF PUT A BUFFER ZONE BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THE BUSY THOROUGHFARE OF 3 80. WE APPRECIATE THAT EVERY DAY THAT WE DRIVE IN. IN FACT, IF YOU'VE DRIVEN PAST THAT PROPERTY AT ALL. RECENTLY SOMEBODY HIT THE STOP SIGN AND THE STREET SIGN AND KIND OF KNOCKED IT DOWN. STOP SIGNS THERE. BUT FOR THE 15 16 YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN THERE. YOU BLOW RIGHT PAST OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ON 3 80, UNLESS YOU KNOW IT'S THERE, SO IT'S VERY SAFE, VERY SECURE. VERY SET TO THE SIDE AND THERE IS JUST A WHOLE UNIQUE ENVIRONMENT THERE. WHICH IS WHY MY GOOD NEIGHBORS HAVE BOUGHT THE PROPERTIES AND MY WIFE AND I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY THAT WE HAD THERE BE SAFE FOR OUR KIDS. ANDRE. NOT A LOT OF. ACCESS TRAFFIC THAT COMES WITH IT. THREE CURRENT ZONING ALLOWS MR ANDRE TO DO WHATEVER HE CAN LEGALLY DO WITHIN THOSE EXISTING ZONE ING'S AND WE SUPPORT THAT WE SUPPORT BUSINESS IN MCKINNEY. WE SUPPORT OUR NEIGHBORS AND THEIR ABILITY TO MAKE A PROFIT BASED ON THE GOOD BLESSINGS THAT GOD HAS GIVEN HIM IN BUSINESS AND SKILLS AND ALL THE REST. THAT OUGHT TO BE GOOD ENOUGH. THE WHOLE IDEA OF EXPANDING INTO RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY IS

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ANATHEMA TO US. YOU CAN JUST TELL WE'VE WE'VE MADE OUR INVESTMENTS AS WELL, I THINK YOU ALL NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT WE WHAT WE'VE INVESTED IN TIME SWEAT, ENERGY, MONEY AND THE LIKE, AND IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR OF OUR PROPERTIES. UM. HE COVERED THAT, UM. YEAH, SO THE SEA TO IDEA, OF COURSE, WOULD REMOVE THAT BUFFER ZONE THAT TRANSITION ZONE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. AND AS HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, GOD ONLY KNOWS WHAT WILL GO THERE AND HOW LONG IT'LL STAY THERE. SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SUGGEST ALL Y'ALL IS THERE OTHER OPTIONS ALONG THE 3 80 CORRIDOR FOR A C TO ZONING AND WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT COMES MR ANDRES WAY. ASSED FAR AS OPPORTUNITIES IN THAT REGARD, AND WE SUPPORT WHATEVER HE IT IS THAT HE WANTS TO DO WITH HIS EXISTING PROPERTIES.

HE'S A NEIGHBOR. WE TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER, AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MR GUNN. NEXT CARD IS JULIET BUCHANAN. SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION. NO MEMBERS OF THE PNC COMMITTEE IS MY THIRD TIME HERE, AND I FEEL LIKE I KNOW YOU ALL. UM I'M SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO THE CURRENT ZONING REQUESTS, AND I ADAMANTLY OPPOSE IT. LOT 20 IS CURRENTLY A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PD. HURRY. THE USE IS ALLOWED IN OFFICE ZONING DISTRICT WITH A FEW LIMITATIONS, SUCH AS A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 35 FT OR TWO STORIES, WHICHEVER IS LESS, THAT IS MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THE OFFICE DISTRICT. THE ZONING DOES NOT ALLOW FOR MUCH RETAIL AS IT EXISTS NOW. JUST BASICALLY OFFICE SUPPLIES, A BANK AND A BEAUTY OR BARBERSHOP. LOT 19 HIS OWN EGG, WHICH BASICALLY ALLOWS FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, CHURCHES, SCHOOLS, AGRICULTURAL USES AND RECREATIONAL USES. COMBINING LOTS, 19 AND 22 TO SEE TWO ZONING CREATES A SUBSTANTIAL COMMERCIAL INTRUSION INTO THE METAL RANCHES STATE THAT WOULD BE VERY, VERY BAD FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD. PROPOSED C TO ZONING IS CONSIDERED A MEDIUM INTENSITY COMMERCIAL ZONING. IT IS NOT AND NEVER HAS BEEN INTENDED TO BE NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. INSTEAD IT IS INTENDED FOR ARTERIAL INTERSECTIONS IN MCKINNEY AND MEADOW RANCH ROAD IS A SMALL, DEAD END ROLL ROAD. THERE'S NO WAY IT IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE. NEVER HAS BEEN NEVER WILL BE. REASON SEE TWO IS NOT INTENDED TO BE USED NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES IS THAT IT IS ALLOWS FOR MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES, INCLUDING HOSPITALS. RESTAURANTS GROCERY STORES, INDOOR THEATERS. AT STORES PAINT SALES EXTERMINATORS DORMITORIES, HARDWARE STORES, BAKERIES, DRY CLEANERS AND FARMERS MARKET. RESTAURANTS AND INDOOR THEATERS WILL BRING NOISE, TRAFFIC AND PESTS SUCH AS RATS. HOSPITALS AND SIGNAL WILL BRING SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC NOISE AND PESTS, INCLUDING RATS. EXTERMINATORS DRY CLEANERS AND HARDWARE STORES WILL BRING CHEMICALS NEARBY. FURTHERMORE OPENING THE DOOR TO SEE TWO ZONING ALLOWS FOR FUTURE HEADACHES WITH PROBLEMATIC USES THROUGH SPECIFIC USE PERMIT THAT'S S U P. THIS OPENS THE DOOR TO FUTURE ZONING BATTLES. YOU KNOW AS MUCH AS WE LIKE YOU GUYS, WE DO NOT WANT TO BE BACK HERE AGAIN. WE ALL HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO WITH OUR TIME. IN GENERAL, SEE TO ZONING WILL BRING INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES THAT WILL BRING INCREASED TRAFFIC NOISE, LIGHT TRASH CHEMICALS, PESTS AND EVEN PRIVACY ISSUES. THE FOUR STORY OFFICE BUILDING. OR ANY KIND OF FOUR STORY BUILDING IS PLACED ON LOT 19 AND 20. NOT ONLY IS IT INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE CURRENT APPEARANCE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, NO WALL OR SET OF TREES WILL BE ENOUGH TO GIVE PRIVACY INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, OF COURSE, HOME VALUES WE DRIVEN DOWN WE? THE RESIDENTS HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE LONG TERM CONSEQUENCES OF HIS OWN CHANGE, AND IT'S NOT PRACTICAL FOR US TO MOVE. WE HAVE CHILDREN IN THE AREA SCHOOLS. WE WORK LOCALLY. WE ATTEND NEARBY CHURCHES WE'VE INVESTED IN OUR HOMES AND WE'VE BUILT OUR LIVES HERE. IT IS IN MCKINNEY'S BEST INTEREST TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IN METAL RANCHES, STATES. THANK YOU. CHEMISTRY CAN AND VERY MUCH. NEXT CARD IS MARK RUTLEDGE SPEAKING AND OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. IT WAS A CHAIRMAN REMEMBERS. I LOVE IT, UH, 18 30 MIDDLE RANCH ROAD WITH MY WIFE, JULIA, WHO YOU JUST HEARD FROM. I HAVE A FEW POINTS. I WANNA BE BRIEF, BUT I DO WANNA CORRECT FEW THINGS FROM THE PRESENTATION. I THINK I'D DO THIS LAST TIME AS WELL.

UM, BUT THAT ENTRANCE WALL DOES EXTEND ACROSS THE ROAD BY ABOUT 10 FT OR SO AND IF YOU IF YOU

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COME DOWN THERE, YOU WILL SEE A WALL IN BOTH SIDES THAT IT CONTINUES WITH THE ROAD TREES.

WHEN YOU GET PAST THAT YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE IS NO WALL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT FIELD RIGHT NOW, SO IT'S A VERY CLEAN, SYMMETRICAL ENTRANCE TOR NEIGHBORHOOD. HIS BUSINESS IS MATCHING THE CHICKEN EXPRESS AND THOSE OTHERS. THEY'RE ON YOUR SIDE CREEK THAT'S BUILT UP WITH WOODS, AND YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE IF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SO IT'S A VERY VISUALLY PLEASING NEIGHBORHOOD. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THOSE CORRECTIONS TO THE RECORD. UM LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, UH ONE OF YOUR MEMBERS SAID THIS JUST DOESN'T SMELL RIGHT. AND WELL, I AGREE WITH THAT. IT'S JUST DOESN'T SMELL RIGHT. WE'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR MIKE'S BEEN AT THIS, I THINK, SINCE SINCE 2014 7 YEARS GO BY, AND WE HAVE TWO CONCEPTS. YOU THINK? AFTER SEVEN YEARS I'D BE SOME CONCRETE IDEAS ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. UM SO I THINK WE JUST LOOK AT A FEW FAX. I THINK THE DECISION BECOMES RATHER EASY.

FIRST FACT. LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, THE APPLICANT TESTIFY THAT HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS WITH THE PRESENT ZONING. OTHER FACT, THE CONCEPT SHOWN HERE, ARE INCOMPATIBLE WITH PRESIDENT ZONE. SO DOES NEED A ZONING CHANGE. NEXT BACK TO SEE TWO IS A MEDIUM INTENSITY OUT. SEE, TOO. IT DOESN'T NEED SEE TO DO THAT. WHY DID YOU ASK TO PROCEED TO IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

WE SHOULD ALL BE. WE SHALL BE WORRIED ALL OF US IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THOSE FACTS I THINK COMBINED TO SUGGEST THAT SHE REALLY TURNED THIS THING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. MR RUTLEDGE. NEXTCARD BARBARA SNYDER SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION. GOOD EVENING. I'M BARBARA SCHNEIDER. I LIVE IN 1800 MEADOW RANCH ROAD. AM HOME OWNER, BUT I'M ALSO RESIDENTIAL. REAL ESTATE BROKER. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE BROKER FOR 22 YEARS. I SPECIALIZE IN LUXURY AND THE STATE PROPERTY SUCH AS THE ONES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. I NEED TO TELL YOU THE MEMORY CARE FACILITY THAT THEY HAVE REFERRED TO IS A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE. YOU DRIVE BY, AND IT LOOKS LIKE A HOUSE. IT SOUNDS LIKE A HOUSE. NO ONE WOULD KNOW WHAT'S A MEMORY CARE FACILITY? UNLESS YOU LIVED THERE, AND YOU KNEW ABOUT IT. NOW. THAT MEMORY CARE FACILITY IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA IS ALLOWED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND IT'S WHERE PEOPLE LIVE. RESIDENTS LIVE THERE. THEY HAVE PEOPLE THAT CARE FOR THEM THERE. THERE ARE USUALLY NO MORE THAN SEVERAL CARS AT A TIME, MAYBE THREE AT A TIME.

BETTER THERE. THE VETERINARY CLANK. I NEED TO TELL YOU ABOUT THAT. THAT'S A HOUSE AS WELL.

IT'S A CURIOUS LITTLE HOUSE WHEN YOU DRIVE BY HIS LITTLE PORCH. AND IT BLENDS IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WHEN YOU ENTER PAST THOSE GATES THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THAT TUCKER HILL HAS A 20 ACRE BARRIER BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL ON THE RESIDENTIAL. AND WHAT THEY'VE PUT IN THAT 20 ACRE AREA. AS A COMMUNITY CENTER. SO BETWEEN THE HOUSES. AND THIS COMMERCIAL AREA IS THIS HUGE? COMMUNITY CENTER WITH A POOL SO THE HOUSES WERE NOT RIGHT UP AGAINST THESE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. SITA ZONING IS NOT INTENDED TO BE NEXT TO A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. THAT IS WHY THE PROPERTY ON 3 80 LOT 20TH HIS OWN OFFICE. AND WITH ITS LIMITATIONS APPROPRIATE TO BE NEXT TO FORM A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. ORIGINAL PLANNERS HAD IT CORRECT IS A HEAVIER COMMERCIAL ZONING THAT'S USED AT MAJOR INTERSECTIONS FROM MAJOR ARTERIES OF THE CITY. IT'S NOT CONDUCIVE TO PUT IT HERE. HOME VALUES WILL DROP SIGNIFICANTLY. AND WILL BE SEVERELY DAMAGED IF WE PUT C TWO IN THIS SPOT, AND I'D LIKE TO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT UNLOCKED 19 THAT ZONE, DAG! THERE IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE THERE NOW, OKAY, SO WHEN YOU DRIVE PAST THOSE WALLS YOU. WHETHER YOU LIVE THERE, YOU LIVE IN MCKINNEY OR YOUR NEW RESIDENT LOOKING FOR A HOME.

IT FEELS LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD A BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A STATES ON IT. THE GATE DOESN'T NEED TO BE MOVED IN THE IN THE BACK. AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE TOTALLY OPPOSED TO THAT. AND I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHY THAT WAS EVEN BROUGHT UP TO BEGIN WITH.

I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO MENTION BUT IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER WHAT, MR ANDRE HAS PROPOSED THIS EVENING THAT CAN GO THERE. BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? HE CAN'T PROPOSAL SORTS OF THINGS THAT ARE ALLOWED THERE. AND WHEN YOU AGREE TO IT, HE CAN PUT ANYTHING AND HE COULD SELL IT TO ANYONE. AND THEN YOU'D HAVE A DISASTER. THAT THAT WOULD BE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT

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DEVALUE THE PROPERTY VALUES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. COMMISSION I'D ER THE NEXT CARD IS MARK SNYDER, SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION. MM HMM. OH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT TO EXPRESS OUR OPPOSITION TO THE PLAN ZONING CHANGES HERE FOR META RANCH ROAD. MY NAME IS MARK SCHNEIDER. I LOVE IT. 1800 MEN, A RANCH ROAD WITH MY WIFE, BARBARA, WHO JUST SPOKE. WE'RE VERY OPPOSED TO REZONING. THE LOTS. WE THINK THAT THEY GOT IT RIGHT TO BEGIN WITH. THERE'S A THERE'S A OFFICE ZONE RIGHT AND PLOT AND 20. IN 19. IT'S AGRICULTURAL, SO THAT'S WHERE IT SHOULD BE BUTTING UP TO A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE OURS. OUR CONCERN IS THAT THERE MAY BE SOME PLANS ONES THAT WE SAW FOR THE FIRST TIME TONIGHT THAT DIDN'T GET SHARED WITH US WITH THE MEETING THAT ARE REPRESENTATIVE RECEIVED WHEN HE FIRST TALKED TO MR SANCHEZ. BUT THERE WAS THIS. THIS PLAN THAT THEY'VE GOT. MAYOR MAY NOT HAPPEN. AND SO OUR CONCERN IS, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT IT COULD BE SOLD TO SOMEBODY ELSE. IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE LOT 18 THAT'S THE LOT SOUTH THAT CURRENTLY THE ANDRES LIVE IN IS ONE THAT HE MIGHT BE UP NEXT TO TRY TO CHANGE THE ZONING AND FURTHER ENCROACH INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WHAT'S CONCERNING ABOUT THAT? HE DIDN'T OWN THAT LOT UNTIL JUST RECENTLY. THAT LOT BELONG TO A MR MARTINEZ. HE SOLD THAT PROPERTY IN 1920 METAL RANCH ROAD WAS SO OH, GOSH, I'M SORRY. 1920 METAL RANCH ROAD WAS SOLD ON 68 2020. IT WAS SOLD TO AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS AND CAD. UM IN COLIN CAD.

IT WAS SOLD TO A SCOT BETH THIRD TWO MONTHS LATER, IN 10 DAYS, IT WAS SOLD. ANDRE THERE WAS A BUILDER CONSTRUCTION WHO CAME IN RENOVATED THE PLACE AND THEN HANDED OVER TO MR ANDRE.

IT CAUSES US CONCERN WHEN IT WAS MENTIONED THAT SOMETHING DIDN'T QUITE SMELL RIGHT LAST TIME WHEN WE WERE HERE. IT'S BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SMELL RIGHT, OUR CONCERN IS THAT YEAH, MAYBE THEY HAVE THESE GRANDIOSE PLANS TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THEY'RE GONNA DO THIS ENCROACH EVEN FURTHER INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN LAUNCH A MUCH MORE INTRUSIVE. DEVELOPMENT THAT WE REALLY DON'T NEED THERE. WHY GET THAT CURRENT BUSONI WHEN THE CURRENT ZONING GIVES THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD MORE OFFICE SPACE, IF THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS TO DO TO GROW HIS BUSINESS OR TO EVEN BRING MAURA OFFICE OCCUPANTS INTO HIS PROPERTY, BUT IT JUST IT'S UNDERHANDED. IT APPEARS THE WAY THAT THAT PROPERTY WAS OBTAINED. WE APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS TONIGHT. WE HOPE THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD WILL ACT IN OUR FAVOR AND OPPOSE THE REZONING OF THIS AREA. THANK YOU. TO GIVE MR SNYDER. THAT IS THE LAST CAR THAT WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE HERE TONIGHT. THAT HASN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK. THAT HASN'T HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY YET. ANYONE. COMMOTION WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC AN EMOTION.

I'M MR MCCALL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SECOND BY MR WATLEY. ANY DISCUSSION EVERYBODY GOOD THE CLOTHES IN THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. IT'S A MOTION CARRIES. A PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED NOW MEMBERS QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OF STAFF FOR THE APPLICANT. I'D LIKE TO GO FIRST. YOU WANT. I'LL GO FIRST. FOR THE AFRICAN. YES, COMMISSIONER. UH IT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IF YOU CAN BUILD THIS STRUCTURE THAT YOU PROPOSED CURRENTLY WITH THE CURRENT ZONING WHY ARE YOU HAVING TO REZONE IT? I THE STRUCTURE THAT I'VE PROPOSED. I CANNOT BUILD THE KURDS AND SHOULD HAVE. CITY PLANS ARE UM BUT IF YOU COULD I MEAN, YOU'RE NEEDING TOE. WHAT THE. HE'S ONLY IF YOU COULD REZONE IT. I MEAN, COULD BUILD THE STRUCTURE. MEAN? I'M NOT SURE I FOLLOW SOMETHING THAT'S I'LL JUMP IN THERE WITH YOU, MISTER. WHAT? RIGHT YOU HAVE YOUR ASKING FOR C TWO? YES, YOU CAN ALSO DO UNDER C ONE. SO WHY IS THE ASK OF C TWO VERSUS SEE ONE? BUT THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, MR WONDERFUL TO GO BACK. TO THIS EXHIBIT. IF YOU RECALL PREVIOUSLY. PREVIOUSLY

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BEING YEARS AGO, NOT NOT TWO WEEKS, NOT A MONTH AGO. WE HAD REQUESTED. C TWO ZOHDI THERE.

WITH S O THERE AS A BUFFER. AND WAVE MET. BASICALLY THE SAME OPPOSITION OF THE NO. DON'T DO ANYTHING EXCEPT LEAVE IT AS IS AND WE WERE WANTING AT THAT TIME. TRULY TO PROBABLY END UP.

WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WHERE YOU HAVE RETAIL AFFRONT. AND MAYBE SOME OFFICES IN THE BACK.

THE OFFICES WE ALWAYS ENVISIONED IN THIS SCENARIO WERE MUCH LIKE IT HAS STIPULATED BEFORE. THE OFFICES THAT OUR LONG VIRGINIA LEPER DOCTOR SAID MEYER IS THAT LOOKS LIKE A BIG HOUSE. BUT IT'S AN OFFICE. THAT'S WHAT WE ENVISIONED THERE. UM SO THAT'S WHY WE ASKED FOR ORIGINALLY THE C TWO IN THE SL. SINCE THEN. TIME EVOLVES. TIME ELAPSES THREE. HE GETS BUSIER AND BUSIER AND WE WENT BACK TO STAFF AND SAID, OK, SO WHAT DO YOU THINK? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? AND WE HAD STAFF TOGETHER. I FELT LIKE IT WAS MORE APPROPRIATE TO PROBABLY DO A C TO ZONING AND TO END UP DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS NOW POSSIBLE. OUR HEAD. WE WERE STILL THINKING SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT ULTIMATELY I THINK THAT IS THE BEST. THE BEST SOLUTION FROM A LAMP. ANY PERSPECTIVE. BUT KEEP, BUT HAS TO BE ONE'S OWN IT. IT CAN'T BE TOO DIFFERENT ZONE NOW. YEP SO NO WONDER, BUT UNDERSEA ONE YOU COULD DO WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IN THE LATEST, HONESTLY, SIR, I COULDN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY.

MAYBE MRS ARNOLD COULD WEIGH IN ON THIS ONE. KNOW THAT LOOKING AT THE SCHEDULE YOU SO THAT I DON'T WANT TO. NO DARKS. YOU KNOW, I JUST I KNOW THAT WORKING WITH STAFF WE. HEAT IT UP AND ALL FELT LIKE SETU IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE WAY. MR CHAIR. I'M SORRY IF I'M OUT OF WATER, BUT WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO ADDRESS THE NOTES THAT I TOOK DOWN OR JUST INVEST YOUR NOTES, AND THEN WE MAY HAVE OTHERS ALSO? YES SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THE FIRST ITEM THAT I NOTED, HAD TO DO WITH THE HEIGHT OF THE STRUCTURE. AND I'M GONNA TIE THAT INTO A DIFFERENT COMMENT LATER ON AND IT HAS TO DO WITH MY 25% RULE. YES, IT'S. THAT'S JUST KIND OF A RULE OF THUMB. THERE IS NOWHERE IN THE CODE THAT SAYS YOU COULD ONLY BUILD 25. HOWEVER. AFTER. 30 YEARS BECAUSE I'M DATING MYSELF OF DOING THIS. BY THE TIME YOU ADD PARKING AND FIRE LEGS THAT ARE REQUIRED. YOUR SIGHT WILL SHRINK DOWN AND ON A ONE ACRE SITE WE TYPICALLY GET ABOUT 25% FOR RETAIL IN OFFICE. IT'S PURE OFFICE. I COULD MAYBE GET 40. IF THE DIMENSION OF THE TRACK IS JUST PERFECT, AND IT JUST MATCHES UP WITH ALL THE MATH. RETAIL HAS A MUCH STIFFER PARKING REQUIREMENTS, SO THAT'S WHY IT SHRINKS DOWN FOR 40 TOE 25. IF IT WERE DUST REAL COULD PROBABLY GET A 50 50. YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD SITE, SO I'M NOT TRYING TO SELL T O SAY TO ANYBODY. I'M ONLY GONNA BUILD EXACTLY 25. NO MORE. NO LAST. IT'S A FUNCTION OF PARKING. AND SO THAT'S WHERE IT'S A TEETER BETWEEN THE AMOUNT OF PARKING I HAVE TO BUILD AND THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE I COULD PUT ON THE GROUND. IN THIS PARTICULAR SCENARIO AS A TWO STORY BUILDING. I COULD NEVER GO FOR STORIES BECAUSE I CAN'T PARK IT. IT JUST WON'T PASS MUSTER.

IT WON'T PASS THE PLANNING DEPARTMENTS REQUIREMENTS. TWO STORIES ALL I'M GONNA BE ABLE TO GET NOT BECAUSE OF TWO STORY BUT BECAUSE OF THE TOTAL G L, A GROSSLY CIVIL AREA IS ABOUT 40,000 SQUARE FEET. SO WITH 40,000 SQUARE FEET, IT'LL TAKE ABOUT FOUR ACRES TO BE ABLE TO PARK IT. LONG STORY TO DEAL WITH THAT TWO STORIES. THAT'S A HEIGHT MAXIMUM OF ABOUT 35 FT.

YOU KNOW? MAYBE 37, MAYBE 34, BUT WE'RE AT AROUND 35 FT. FIRST PLATE IS ABOUT 14 TO 16 FT. THE SECOND PLATE IS ABOUT 12 TO 14 FT. AND THAT'S HOW WE GET THE MATH BEFORE AN ARCHITECTURAL PERSPECTIVE. SO WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS AWARE THAT WE'RE NOT PROPOSING A FOUR STORY BUILDING BECAUSE WE COULD NEVER BUILD A FOUR STORY BUILDING THERE.

SURE, MCDANIELS BROUGHT UP A LOT OF GOOD POINTS AND I APPRECIATE THOSE POINTS. THAT HE BROUGHT UP WE'RE TRULY TRYING TO BUILD A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE, TAX PURPOSES. YOU BOTH FOR EVERYBODY. THAT'S BEEN THE DISCUSSION POINT. FOR YEARS ABOUT THE TAX BALANCE AND RESIDENTIAL HORSES, NONRESIDENTIAL. WE THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD PERSPECTIVE FROM

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THAT. ROACH WE WOULD HAVE TO SCREEN THE SITE BECAUSE IT'S REQUIRED. IN THE MEETING THAT I HOPE TO HAVE AND JUST WE WEREN'T ABLE TO HAVE IT. YOU KNOW FULLY THE WAY I EXPECTED WITH MR GORMAN. BECAUSE IT WAS JUST A SHORT MEETING. IF WE NEED TO ADD MORE TREES IF WE NEED TO DEAL WITH OTHER ISSUES FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE, WE CAN TACKLE THAT. IF I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE NOW. LUCKILY SOME OF THOSE CAME OUT TONIGHT AND I COULD PROBABLY ADDRESS THOSE BOTH BY CODE AND BY WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO DO. WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO MOVE THE GATES AT ALL. AGAIN. LET ME JUST CLEAR THAT UP. WHEN I DISCUSSED THE ISSUE OF THE GATES, IT WAS AS A RESPONSE TO CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC AT OUR LAST MEETING WHERE I SAID I'M A TECHNICIAN, THIS I SOLVE IT. THAT'S AS ME AS A TECHNICIAN. I WAS EVEN TALKING ABOUT HOW I WOULD DESIGN IN MY TALKING ABOUT CITY CODE. I'M TALKING ABOUT HOW THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WOULD ALLOW IT. I'M NOT PROPOSING TO MOVE THE GATES. THAT'S NOT WITHIN OUR PURVIEW, ESPECIALLY UNDER HIS OWN CASE. WHAT DO WE PLAN ON DOING? YES, I AGREE. SINCE SO FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS. WHY DO WE NOT HAVE MORE CONCRETE PLANT? WELL I DON'T HAVE MORE CONCRETE PLANS SIMPLY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT ENTITLEMENT. WE HAVE, AND IT JUST KIND OF GOES TOGETHER. CAN WE DO MORE OFFICE OF FRONT? SURE, WE CAN. THAT SECOND LOT, THE LOT THAT GENERALLY IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE. IS ADJACENT TO A VETERINARIAN CLINIC THAT GOES DEEPER INTO THE METAL RANCH SUBDIVISION. SO IT SEEMS LOGICAL FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SAY LET'S COMBINE THEM AND DO IT BETTER, MORE THOUGHT OUT. COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT.

WE'VE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO. THESE WERE PROBABLY ON A SAFARI. THIS ONE. THIS IS, I THINK. CONCEPT G. SO AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD EVEN MORE OF THESE AND TWEAKS, ETCETERA. THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN ACTUALLY DO RELATIVE. TO WHAT WHAT IS THERE, AND THAT'S ABOUT WHAT WE THINK WE COULD DO. THE ONE LAW THAT IS A QUESTION THAT A FEW FOLKS BROUGHT UP THERE THAT THERE IS A HOUSE. THERE IS A HOUSE AND IT'S BEEN RENTED, AT LEAST FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. IT'S NOT A RESIDENT THAT HOMEOWNER, BUT IT IS A RENTER. JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT UP. PHYSICAL BARRIERS. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT COMMENTS AGAIN. THERE HAS TO BE A WALL HERE. IT'S CODE.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A LANDSCAPE BUFFER. IT'S CODE, AND THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL THESE TREES AND ITS COAT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO IS THAT EVEN MORE SCREENING BUFFERING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT IS REQUIRED. YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH NO NOISE ATTENUATION THAT THAT'S A NO BRAINER. I MEAN, WE COULD ABSOLUTELY DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. RELATIVE TO THE SETBACK.

SO WE'RE DISCUSSING TERMS OF HOW CLOSE WE COULD GET THIS BUILDING HERE. THERE ARE RULES THAT GOVERNMENT IT'S A SIDE YARD SETBACK. THAT IS REQUIRED THAT I HAVE TO SET THE BUILDING OFF A CERTAIN DISTANCE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, I HAD A SCREENING REQUIREMENTS AND LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE THEN HAVE A FIRE TO REQUIREMENT THAT REQUIRES US TO PUT A FIRE LEAGUE. AROUND THE BUILDING. SO THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE WHERE IT'S GONNA BE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THE MATH WORKS FROM ALL THE TECHNICAL PERSPECTIVE. HUH? WE DISCUSS CERTAIN AGAIN. UNCERTAINTIES WE HAVE THE CERTAINTY OF. THE SIZE OF A LOT. WE HAVE CERTAINTY OF. THAT IT'S ON 3 80 THAT IT IS A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, AND WE'RE TRULY JUST TRYING TO GET SOMETHING ON THE GROUND THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY. UH, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU. I MEAN, THE SEA TO ZONING IS ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL ALL OVER TOWN. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT OF THAT'S WHERE WE PUT HIM. AND IF THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT. I WISH I COULD DO MORE FOR THE RESIDENTS, BUT WE TRIED TO MEET. WE JUST WEREN'T ABLE TO REALLY GET SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSION. SO MISTER MISTER.

CHEERS. THINK THOSE WERE ALL THE COMMENTS THAT I CAUGHT? UNLESS YOU MET MISS OF THE DUDE LIKE VIDEO A DRESSER. EMBERS. OTHER QUESTIONS. WHEN QUESTIONS OF STAFF. ONE I DO THAT WAS TO WHAT LOOKING FOR THEM. YES, SIR. AND IT WAS KIND OF MENTIONED. THAT THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY HAD SEEN THIS PLAN. YES SIR. MY ADDRESS IT. SCHOOL. SO WHEN I MET WITH

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MR GORMAN, I GAVE HIM THIS PLAN. BECAUSE AT THE TIME THAT WAS STILL THE THINKING RETAIL UP HERE, OFFICE DOWN HERE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT. AND AT OUR LAST MEETING, IT WAS DISCUSSED BY THE RESIDENTS AND BY THE COMMISSION. YEAH. THERE WAS TOO MUCH AMBIGUITY. I DON'T REMEMBER COMMISSION BECAUSE EXACT WORDS, SIR. BUT I HOPE THAT PARAPHRASES IS CLOSE THAT IT WAS. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? SO I SHARED THAT WITH MR BORMAN, MR. GORMAN SAID HE WOULD GO BACK AND VISIT WITH THE REST OF THE RESIDENTS AND THEN IF THEY HAD ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS THEY'D GET WITH ME. THAT WAS THE ONE TIME THAT WE MET. I WAS HOPING THAT AT THAT MEETING, WE COULD SAY. WOULD YOU RATHER US BUILD IT THIS WAY? OKAY THEN WE CAN ATTACK LAYING PLANS THAT WAY. OR HATE MARTIN. MAYBE WE COULD JUST DO TWO BUILDINGS AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS BUILDING LOOKS AS MUCH LIKE A HOUSE AS YOU POSSIBLY COULD GET IT. OKAY, WE CAN'T. WE CAN'T DO THAT. THOSE AIR DESIGNED THINGS. THAT WE CAN ADDRESS. UNFORTUNATELY WE DIDN'T REALLY RECEIVE ANY OF THOSE COMMENTS. SO WE WENT BACK TO OUR OFFICE. AND I SAID, MAN, YOU KNOW IF WE'VE BEEN BEATING OUR HEADS UP ON THE WALL ON THIS. AND EVERYBODY RECOGNIZES 3 80 IS A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. BUT BUT WE DON'T REALLY GET THEIR FINALLY. AND SO I TOOK A STAB AT HOW CAN YOU MAKE IT WORK? AND THE BEST WAY THAT I COULD THINK OF IS A VERTICAL MIXED USE PRODUCT. JUST RETELLING OFFICE ON THE GROUND FLOOR OFFICE ON THE SECOND FLOOR, AND WE CAME UP WITH THIS. SO THAT'S HOW IT OCCURRED, SIR. AND THEN AGAIN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, MR ANDRE WANTED ME TO LOOK AT IT THIS WAY, WHICH IS A SLIGHT DEVIATION. THOSE PEOPLE DON'T THINK IT'S A SIGNIFICANT DEVIATION, BUT IT IS IT IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT TO PUSH THE BUILDING AS FAR UP TO THREE D AS WE CAN. I'M OPEN TOE LOOKING AT OTHER POSSIBILITIES, SIR, AS WELL. BUT AS WE DISCUSSED THE LAST TIME WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IF I COME BACK, AND THERE'S NO OTHER REAL SIGNIFICANT, MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE. IT'S CHALLENGE CERTAINLY A CHALLENGE FOR US. THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. CHAIR. I'VE GOT COMMENTS, BUT REALLY NO MORE QUESTIONS. I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

THE QUESTIONS OF THE AFRICAN ANYONE. THIS IS OF STAFF. JOKE OF COURSE FOR JEFF. SO I RIGHT THE EVENING UPSETTING MY PHONE AND GOING THROUGH THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN C ONE C TWO REALLY WHEN YOU GET INTO IT, OFFICE WISE, WE GOT OFFICE. RETAIL. YOU GOTTA RETAIL. IS A LITTLE BIT, OBVIOUSLY WITH DRIVE THROUGHS WITH C TWO VERSUS IWANT. BUT FOR THE MAJOR CATEGORIES. YOU KIND OF GIVE A SUMMARY OF THE DELTA BETWEEN C ONE AND C TWO FOR EVERYBODY.

SURE YEAH, THE SEA TO DISTRICT LIKE YOU SAID, IS IT IS A MEDIUM DENSITY IN DISTRICT MEDIUM DISTRICT SO YOU'RE GONNA FIND SOME USES IN THERE THAT ARE NOT PERMITTED AND SEE ONE ON. DO YOU KNOW SO SOMETHING LIKE DRIVE THRU, FOR INSTANCE. SEE ONE WOULD NEED A S A P IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES, SO COULD YOU CLEAN UP A LITTLE BIT SORT INTERRUPTIONS SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT. YEAH. IT'S YOU SEE TO THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED GIVEN THAT IT'S A MORE MEDIUM INTENSITY DISTRICT. WHEN STAFF IS LOOKING AT THE AREA AND THE REQUEST OF SEE TO, YOU KNOW, WE DID FEEL THAT IT WAS APPROPRIATE ALONG THE 3 80 COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF TALK TONIGHT ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT'S GENERALLY ONLY PERMITTED THAT ARTERIAL INTERSECTIONS AND WE DO FIND C TWO AT THE INTERSECTION OF A LOT OF ARTERIALS. HOWEVER WE DO ALSO FIND IT ALONG MAJOR CORRIDORS LIKE 3 80 75 21, THESE THESE MAJOR HIGHWAYS, THE SERVICE OUR COMMUNITY. WE DO FIND THEM ON. AND GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL. YES WE WAY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL USES OF JASON THIS PROPERTY. THAT SAID THE CITY DOES HAVE CRITERIA FOR RESIDENTIAL BUFFERING. ON THE CITY. HAS RECOGNIZED THAT YOU KNOW THIS THIS LOT YOU KNOW THE LOTS TO THE EAST AND TO THE WEST, ACTUALLY, KIND OF GO FURTHER SOUTH IN TOWARD THE NEIGHBORHOOD. REALLY THIS REQUEST IS ALL STILL FURTHER NORTH. SO WE FELT IT MADE SENSE IN THIS LOCATION TO SUPPORT SEE TWO IN THIS LOCATION. THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEP. THEN SECONDLY, THEN. ONE. PROPOSED PLAN. MR SANCHEZ PUT OUT TODAY WITH RETAIL ON FIRST FLOOR WITH SOME OFFICE AND AN OFFICE COMPLETELY ON SECOND FLOOR. WOULD THAT BE PERMITTED UNDER C ONE TODAY? WOULD YOUR RETAIL

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OPTIONS WOULD PROBABLY BE A LOT MORE LIMITED, YOU KNOW, OFFICE USES ARE PERMITTED IN BOTH C ONE AND C TWO. ON. YOU KNOW, THE RETAIL OPTIONS ARE GONNA BE A LOT MORE LIMITED IT LIKE I SAID, IN A LOT OF THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES. BUT YOU KNOW THERE ARE ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL USES THAT DO COME ON WITH THOSE C TWO. YOU. THE QUESTION OF STUFF. YOU WANT. GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ISSUES OF THE APPLICANT. BACK AROUND ONE MORE TIME, ALL RIGHT? COMMENTS.

NOT EMOTIONS. I'LL JUMP IN, OKAY? THIS PROPERTY IS SANDWICH IN IN BETWEEN SEA PLANTS CENTER AND INDUSTRIAL ZONING. FRONTS ON A MAJOR U. S HIGHWAY WITH CAR COUNT OF EXCEEDING 50,000 CARS PER DAY. IT JUST SEEMS IT MAKES SENSE. AND I GUESS IN CLOSING THE APPLICANT IS THE MOST IMPACTE I WANT THAT TO SAY. RIGHT? HOUSE. I'LL GO NEXT. UM. YOU KNOW, INITIALLY AT THE LAST MEETING, I WAS VERY CRITICAL OF MR SANCHEZ AND THE EMPTY HEY, WHAT'S NOT BEING VERY TRANSPARENT AND HOW HE PRESENTED IT. I UNDERSTOOD WHY HE WAS NOT. UM, I'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THE PREVIOUS TIMES THAT THIS HAS COME BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING. OVER THE YEARS. I'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH MR SANCHEZ. UNDERSTANDING THE CHANGES THAT HE'S MAKING. I BELIEVE THEY ARE BENEFICIAL TO THE PROPOSAL HE IS DOING. I WILL AGREE WITH MR TAYLOR. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER 3 80 IS A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. THE PROPOSED CHANGE TO THE ONE PROPERTY DOES NOT EXTEND DOWN FARTHER THAN THE VETERINARIAN TO THE WEST. SO WHILE I CAN TOTALLY UNDERSTAND FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD IT FEELS INTRUSIVE COMING IN. THE FACT THAT IT DOES NOT GO DOWN. FURTHER THAN THE BET NEARY CENTER TO THE WEST. KIND OF PUTS ME IN A POSITION TO SEE SUPPORT FOR THIS ZONING CHANGE.

I UNDERSTAND IT'S PROBABLY NOT WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS TO HEAR. BUT AND LOOKING AT THE OVERALL ZONING AROUND YOU. WHERE THE GROWTH IS COMING ON 3 80. I DO FEEL THAT THIS IS PERHAPS I COULD USE FOR THIS. THIS PROPERTY. NO ONE ELSE. SURE, I. I WAS HOPING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM THE MEETING. AT THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE HAD WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I DID WANT TO SEE IT BE A WIN WIN FOR EVERYONE. SITTING HERE LOOKING AT THAT SIGN THAT, SAYS MCKINNEY, TEXAS, UNIQUE BY NATURE. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO HAVE IN THIS CITY IS THAT WE CAN SIT DOWN AND TALK THROUGH SOME THINGS TO MAKE IT A WIN WIN FOR EVERYONE. UH, IT'S JUST THINGS TO BE ANOTHER ONE OF THESE PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE IN MCKINNEY. GONNA LIKE VIRGINIA AND LIKE FARCE. IT KEEPS COMING. TO PLANNING HIS OWN AND COMING TO THE COUNCIL AND SELF SINCE 2014. WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT SOME THINGS. THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT. I WISHED THAT THE RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SEE WHAT YOU HAVE HERE. FOR SOME REASON THAT DIDN'T HAVE ACCORDING TO WHAT WE'RE BOUND BY AND LOOKING AT THE VETERINARIANS. IT'S A PROPERTY THERE. IT'S NOT THIS PROPERTY DOES NOT EVEN EXTEND DOWN THAT FAR. SO OKAY WITH MR DOKE. AND MR TAYLOR. THAT COULD SUPPORT THIS. GOOD. ONE ELSE.

SURE. I SAID HIS LAST MEETING. EIGHTIES COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. IT'S GROWN DRAMATICALLY IN THE LAST 10 15 YEARS. AND 3 80 IS ONLY GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW. THERE'S A ZONING HERE AND I'M SWINGING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN C ONE C TWO UH, THERE'S NOT MUCH DELTA'S BETWEEN SEE ONCE HE TOO, AND TRUTHFULLY, I THINK THE BIG ONE WOULD BE UM, DRIVE THROUGH, AND I THINK THE AFFECT THE APPLICANT THE MOST WITH THE CAR HEADLIGHTS WILL BE GOING MORE TO HIS PROPERTY THAN ANY PROPERTY. SO STRUGGLE RIGHT? AND THEN I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU ON THE FLIP SIDE. THE

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CHICKEN AND THE EGG. I THINK YOUR GUYS PROBABLY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA BUILD. YOU COULD COME FORWARD WITH A PLAN AT THE SAME TIME OF YEAR. YOU KNOW IF I HAD AN S U P I GOT A PRESENT THE SITE PLAN. AND THEN I'M COMING FOR HIS OWNING UNDER SPECIFIC CASE. WE COULD DO THAT HERE. DOESN'T NEED TO BE DONE, BUT I THINK YOU KNOW, I'M STRUGGLING TRYING TO PROTECT THE HOMEOWNERS BUT ALSO SEE WHERE THE CITY THE VISION IS. UM CLEARLY THINK I SEE ONE C TWO. HONEST WITH YOU. I'M KIND OF STRUGGLING ON THAT PIECE OF THE PIE RIGHT NOW. THERE'S I WOULD. I WOULD KIND OF WHERE I STARTED WAS, YOU KNOW, AFTER LISTENING TO ALL THE RESIDENTS AND MY PERSONAL OPINIONS WAS KIND OF COMBINING ESSENTIALLY WHAT OTHERS HAVE SAID OF THE DISTANCE OF THE EXTENT WHERE THIS IS LOCATED. WITH ALSO THE C ONE C TWO. I'M STRUGGLING TO WHY? WHY THE SEA TWO VERSUS THE C ONE AND WHAT'S ALLOWED SO KIND OF IN A, YOU KNOW. AGREE AND WITH A LITTLE BIT, EVERYBODY. THAT'S WHERE I KIND OF STARTED, AND I HAVEN'T SWAYED FROM THAT. AND AGAIN AFTER HEARING ALL THE CITIZENS COMMENTS AS WELL, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WITH YOU SEE, TOO. THERE'S A LOT THAT'S ADDITIONALLY GONNA BE ADDED THAT WOULD ENCUMBER THE RESIDENTS. THERE'S GONNA BE A SCREENING WALL DOWN THERE TO PROTECT THAT. THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON AGAIN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD SURROUNDING AREAS THEY EXTEND ACTUALLY PART OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, SO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS WITH THE RESIDENTS WITH ENCUMBERING ON THAT NEXT TRACK, BUT IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE OTHER AREAS. SO. I AGREE WITH THE APPLICANT, THE PROPERTIES FRONT SAY U S HIGHWAY. IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONING. THERE IS STILL RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT. ZONING. ANY ANY PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN A RES ONLY TO COME BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS, BUT IT'S FOR US TO QUESTION IN FRONT OF US. REZONE OF THESE TWO LOTS OF IN SUPPORT OF THAT. I THINK THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB IN DESIGNING SOMETHING.

THAT'S IT'S COMPATIBLE. WEST MOTIONS. WAS MISSED, BUT, UH SINCE YOU'VE COME BACK WITH A BETTER IDEA. I MEAN, THE APPLICANTS, ONE THAT'S HAVING TOE BE ADJACENT TO IT. BUT THE BUFFER BUT I'M. IN SUPPORT OF THIS, SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS ITEM. IT'S ABOUT MR MCCALL. THEY ARE TO BE APPROVED AS PER YOUR REQUEST AS FIRST STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

STRICKLAND. YOU AGREE WITH THAT? OKAY? AGAIN SECOND BY MR TAYLOR WAS ERNIE DISCUSSION. ON THE MOTION. RUSSIAN TERRY NICHOLS. CALL A DEMOTION TAYLOR SECONDS. HE'S CAST YOUR VOTES.

THIS MOTION WILL BE SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FOR FINAL ACTION. AT THE AIRPORT, 6 2021. CITY COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY THAT'S THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. IF YOU EVER CHOOSE TO RUN OR TO SERVE FOR THE CITY, SOMETIMES WE GET TOUGHENS LIKE THIS. IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT ALWAYS FUN. AND. NEXT ITEM, MISS TRIPP FLYNN. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR COURSE, ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? NO MISS ARNOLD ONE, FOR YOU ON THE AGENDA. NOW THE LAST ITEM WILL ALWAYS BE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA, SO THAT WAS A LITTLE CURVEBALL FROM YOU ON THIS MEETING. WE WILL STILL HAVE THAT AGENDA ITEM IN IT. I THINK YOU WERE AT THE END OR AT THE START OF THE FIRST, OKAY, SESSION. WAY HAVE TWO VERSIONS OF PUBLIC COMMENTS, OKAY. COMMENTS FOR ITEMS DON'T HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING WILL COME IN THE FRONT OF THE MEETING AND THEN PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THINGS NOT ON THE AGENDA AT ALL. SO JUST GENERAL COMMENT. BE AT THE END OF THE MEETING. YOU WANT TO DO THAT TONIGHT? OKAY WE CAN DO THAT. IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE TONIGHT THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE PODIUM ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON OUR AGENDA. PLEASE COME FORWARD. ALL RIGHT, MISS DONNA, CAN WE GET BACK ON SCRIPT NOW? YES, SIR. MEMBERSHIP ANNOUNCEMENTS? STRICKLAND THANK YOU FOR BEING UP HERE. VERY MUCH FELT VERY AT EASE AND COMFORTABLE WITH YOU UP HERE. YEAH. SIR THANK YOU. OF WHAT YOU DO, MISS ARNOLD.

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YOU COULD STAY DOWN THERE NOW. WAY DO NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN EMOTION. WILL YOU JOIN EMOTIONAL, MR DOAKES? SECOND BY MR WOODRUFF TO ADJOURN. ALL THOSE FAVOR SAY AYE, THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN

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