[Consider, Discuss, Provide Staff Direction, If Any, Regarding Health/Safety Regulations, including Emissions Standards and Related Regulations, for Commercial Kitchens]

YOU, SIR. NO FORMAL PRESENTATION JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AGAIN FOR THE RECORD. MICHAEL QUINT, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. WE'LL START THE DISCUSSION, ALTHOUGH, OF COURSE I'VE ALREADY STARTEDGT TO HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION ON IT WAS SAID THAT STAFF MADE A MISTAKE. I DON'T BELIEVE STAFF MADE MISTAKE. I BELIEVE THAT WHAT STAFF DID ITS OPERATING WITHIN THE GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE TODAY, AND WE CAN ALL DISCUSS WHETHER THOSE GUIDELINES NEED TO BE AMENDED. AND I THINK EVERYONE UP HERE EVERYONE OUT THERE. CERTAINLY WE'VE GIVEN PAUSE TO THINK ABOUT. WHAT MIGHT BE NEEDED MOVING FORWARD. UM. STAFF DIDN'T MAKE A MISTAKE. STAFF DID WHAT STAFF SHOULD DO. AND THERE IS NOTHING THAT THAT SAYS IN THE, UH IN OUR ZONING OR CODES THAT THAT, UH, LIMIT THE NUMBER OF KITCHENS OR OVENS OR ANYTHING IN ANY GIVEN RESTAURANT. CERTAINLY NOTHING THAT DEEMS IT HAS TO BE, UH, INSIDE DINING, OR WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE DOMINO'S PIZZAS OF THE WORLD. SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY MADE A MISTAKE AT ALL. AGAIN. WE'RE STILL HERE. OKAY, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A MATTER OF THEM MAKING A MISTAKE. IT'S A MATTER OF US TAKING THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS VERY, VERY UNIQUE TO NEW CONCEPT FOR US TO REFLECT ON IT AND DETERMINED DO WE THINK. THERE MAY IT MAY TECHNICALLY MEET WHAT'S IN THE BOOKS TODAY? BUT SHOULD IT MEET, I THINK IS THE BIGGER QUESTION. AND. SO FOR ME SOME OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID THAT. GIVE ME UH, PAWS ARE NUMBER ONE. THE VEHICLES. I'VE HEARD ALL KINDS OF NUMBERS, BUT 50 PLUS VEHICLES OVERNIGHT, RIGHT? OBVIOUSLY, UM. YOU KNOW, IS THAT CONSISTENT WITH THE

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RESTAURANT? WOULD THAT BE? MY EXPECTATION OF THE RESTAURANT WAS COMING IN? IS THERE 50 VEHICLES THAT ARE PARKED? CONSTANTLY. AND THE EMISSIONS. CERTAINLY I'M NO EXPERT. I CERTAINLY KNOW, THOUGH EVERY GROCERY STORE THAT WE HAVE HAS MORE THAN BY THE WAY I'VE HEARD 11 AND 12 KITCHENS. I BELIEVE IT'S ACTUALLY SEVEN. STILL MORE THAN ONE. I GET IT. EVERY. HOLD ON MY TURN TO TALK. EVERY GROCERY STORE WE HAVE HERE THAT PROVIDES FOOD THAT BY THE WAY, IT DOESN'T HAVE DINING IN. UM SERVICE HAS MULTIPLE KITCHEN SO UM. ALL SET THAT ASIDE.

CERTAINLY IT IS SOMETHING TO POTENTIALLY LOOK AT AND CONSIDER. BUT THE VEHICLES IS A BIG THING. THE TRAFFIC IS A BIG THING. IT'S CERTAINLY DIFFERENT. IN A RESTAURANT THAT HAS TRAFFIC IN AND OUT BASED ON TABLE TURNOVER. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS CONSTANT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY HOUR FOR THE TIME THEY'RE OPEN, SO THERE ARE DIFFERENCES AND THOSE HAVE BEEN MENTIONED AND BROUGHT UP. THOSE WERE VERY COMPELLING. UNLIKE THE ACCUSATION OF BRIBERY, THAT WAS NOT VERY COMPELLING, JUST F Y I FOR THE FUTURE. I'LL PAUSE FOR OTHER COMMENTS. MR QUINN? YES, SIR. I'M SORRY. IF I MIGHT, YEAH. WAS JUST ANSWERING HIS QUESTION, OKAY? SORRY WITH SOMEONE ELSE SPEAKING. NO, NO, NO. YOU ALL RIGHT? DID YOU GET THE EMAIL? GOTTEN A FEW OF THEM? YES, THE ONE THAT THESE FOLKS HAVE BEEN REFERRING TO FROM SHANNON. I HAVE SEEN IT. YES, SIR. I DIDN'T GET IT. WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT. DID RIGHT TO SHANNON. PROBABLY WELL OVER A MONTH AGO. UM. RIGHT NOW. I BELIEVE WE'RE IN THE SITE PLANNING. PORTION OF THIS PROJECT. AND THAT SITE PLAN. I'M ASSUMING JUST GIVES AN OUTLINE OF A BUILDING MORE OR LESS WITH THE APPROPRIATE SETBACKS AND DOES NOT GO INTO THE DETAILS OF THE NUMBER OF KITCHENS AND MY CORRECT ON THAT. CORRECT HAVE WE RECEIVED AS THE CITY ANYTHING FROM CRAVE OR ANY ENTITY ASSOCIATED WITH THEM? ENGINEERS DESIGNERS OTHERWISE. THAT HAS INDICATED TO US THE EXACT NUMBER OF KITCHENS THEY ARE PROPOSING. I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY SEEING THAT I WILL TELL YOU IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH MS ARNOLD ARE PLANNING DIRECTOR SHE HAS INDICATED THAT CRAVE HAS INDICATED TO HER THERE WILL BE SEVEN KITCHENS. BUT IN TERMS OF A FORMAL REQUIREMENT FOR THAT INFORMATION UP FRONT NO, WE DON'T HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT. I THINK THAT INFORMATION WAS SHARED AS IN THE CONTEXT OF THE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS, AND THEY'RE JUST CONVERSATIONS AT THIS POINT. SO AS WE SPEAK HERE TODAY. NO ONE CAN SAY THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE ONE KITCHEN OR THERE'S GOING TO BE 16 KITCHENS CORRECT. I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT CRAVE HAS SAID, BUT I WILL TELL YOU FROM A CITY STANDPOINT, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, OKAY? AND I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN SPEAK TO THE US BUT IN THE SIDE PLANNING PROCESS IS THE FIRE MARSHAL ENGAGED IN THAT PORTION OF THE PROCESS. TO DETERMINE IF THERE IS SUFFICIENT INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO MAINTAIN THIS TYPE OF STRUCTURE, SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT ONE ASPECT. OF IT. SO AT THE SITE PLANE LEVEL, WE'RE LOOKING FOR INGRESS AND EGRESS TO AND FROM THE SITE FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES. THINGS OF THAT NATURE NOW TO AND FROM THE BUILDING THAT WILL COME LATER, WITH THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS THAT ARE SUBMITTED AT A LATER PHASE IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. THAT'S WHEN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL START LOOKING FOR THOSE INGRESS EGRESS, OCCUPANT LOADS THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AND IS IT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT? WE'LL LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC. UH REQUIREMENTS OF THIS PARTICULAR FUNCTION, SO THAT IS BEING EVALUATED RIGHT NOW, AS WE'VE ALREADY MENTIONED MULTIPLE TIMES THIS AFTERNOON, THIS KIND OF THIS CONCEPT OF A GHOST KITCHEN IS STILL VERY MUCH NEW TO US. IT'S NEW IN THE INDUSTRY, SO WE HAVE AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN PROCESS, REACHED OUT TO CRAVE AND ASKED FOR A TRAFFIC IMPACT STATEMENT. BASED ON THEIR EXISTING FACILITIES. WHAT IS THE TRAFFIC LIKE? WHAT ARE THE TRIPS THAT GO IN AND OUT OF THE PROPERTY? WE HAVE YET TO RECEIVE THAT, BUT WILL DEFINITELY KEEP THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT. WHEN WE GET THAT INFORMATION IN TERMS OF FORMAL TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

THEY'RE ALREADY BEING REQUIRED THROUGH ENGINEERING DESIGN STANDARDS FOR TURN LANES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, SO IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS THAT WE COULD PLACE ON THE DEVELOPMENT. THERE REALLY AREN'T MANY, SO THERE'S JUST NOT A LOT OF JUSTIFICATION

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TO REQUIRE A FULL BLOWN TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. WE ARE TRYING TO GET A TRAFFIC IMPACT STATEMENT TO GET A FUEL FOR WHAT TYPE OF TRAFFIC IS BEING GENERATED AT THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES, BUT IN TERMS OF AN ANALYSIS LEADING TO ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS THERE'S NOT MUCH ELSE THE DEVELOPER CAN DO. UH AND AS FAR AS THIS ORGANIZATION ITSELF CRAVE, OR WHOEVER THEIR PARENT COMPANY AS THEY HAVE SOME OF THESE FACILITIES IN EXISTENCE RIGHT NOW, I HAVE HEARD CHICAGO. I DON'T KNOW THAT CRAVE HAS ANY IN CHICAGO. I DO KNOW THEY HAVE SOME IN THE IDAHO AREA. I HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT CHICAGO, THOUGH. WELL, I'M JUST HEARD MENTION OF CHICAGO THROUGH THE CITIZENS. HAVE HEARD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FROM CRAVE. WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IN THE ROOM IS AWARE OF THAT? IT'S NOT THAT I HAVEN'T REACHED OUT TO THEM OR I'M NOT ANSWERING MY PHONE WHEN THEY CALL. AND I DID NOT GET A COPY OF THE EMAIL THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IN A WOULD LIKE TO SEE THERE. UM END. POSITION THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW. IF YOU WOULD DO YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW YOU'RE STANDING IN FOR JENNIFER ARNOLD FOR THE MOST PART TODAY, AND SOME OF THESE THINGS I MIGHT PUT YOU ON THE SPOT INADVERTENTLY. THAT'S NOT MY INTENTION. BUT THE DEFINITION THAT IS USED IN OUR CURRENT ZONING CODE AND I'VE SEEN DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS ON THE TERM KITCHEN. OR RESTAURANT OR CAFE. DO YOU KNOW WHEN THOSE ACTUALLY WENT INTO OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES? THE CURRENT DEFINITION OF, UH, RESTAURANT.

AND IF YOU COULD HELP ME, I AM SEEN TWO OR THREE. I THINK ONE IS CONSIDERED AN INDOOR RESTAURANT. ONE IS CONSIDERED A TAKEOUT RESTAURANT, AND THERE MAY ALSO BE ONE. IF YOU HAVE OUTDOOR DINING, AND THAT'S WHERE I CAME UP WITH THREE THAT I HAVE SEEN AND WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO IS AND. THIS COUNCIL HAS SEEN THIS IN OTHER MATTERS BACK IN 1981. WHEN THE CODES WERE ORIGINALLY PUT INTO PLACE, MCKINNEY WAS PROBABLY A CITY OF LESS THAN 16,000 PEOPLE.

COMMERCIAL ALSO MEANT WALTER HAD FAMILY. AS I'M SURE BACK IN 1981, THE LEADERS OF MCKINNEY, WE'RE LOOKING FOR ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD COME TO MCKINNEY. UM. NOT THAT THAT'S A BAD THING. BUT THAT DEFINITION CAME BACK TO HAUNT US. AND THIS COUNCIL ACTUALLY TOOK ACTION ON IT TO GET MALTA OUR FAMILY OUT OF THE COMMERCIAL DEFINITION. IN CERTAIN ZONING CASES BECAUSE THAT WAS A PROBLEM FOR US. SEE THIS HAPPENING AGAIN AND WE DEFINE KITCHEN. BACK WHEN. NO ONE HAD THOUGHT OF THE TERM OF GHOST KITCHEN OR THAT THERE WOULD BE SEVEN OR 16 OR HOWEVER MANY. ALLEGED RESTAURANTS HOUSED IN ONE LOCATION, SO IN LINE OF MY EXPLANATION COULD YOU GIVE THESE FOLKS AND US A BRIEF HISTORY OF THESE DEFINITIONS AND HOW THEY CAME INTO PLAY? AND ARE BEING USED TO TRY AND FACILITATE THIS PROJECT. I'LL DO MY VERY BEST.

I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT. YES, SIR. SO SPECIFICALLY, AS I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE THE ISSUE AT HAND REVOLVES AROUND THE DEFINITION OF A RESTAURANT, LESS A KITCHEN MORE A RESTAURANT, AND SO THERE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THE CITY MCKINNEY DOES HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS REGARDING TO RESTAURANTS, SOME OF WHICH ARE RESTAURANT DYING IN. SOME ARE CARRY OUT. ONLY SOME ARE DRIVE THROUGH. BUT THE RESTAURANT DEFINITION SPECIFICALLY PERTAINING TO GHOST KITCHENS LESS CRAVE MORE GHOST KITCHENS. I'D LIKE TO KIND OF BACK OUT AND TALK HOLISTICALLY. BECAUSE THIS CONVERSATION DOES HAVE IMPLICATIONS FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE. SO THE DEFINITION IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE AND I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 2000 AND SIX IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT SINCE 2000 AND SIX AND I DON'T RECALL EVER MODIFYING THE DEFINITION OF RESTAURANT CARRY OUT, WHICH IS THE DEFINITION I'M ABOUT TO READ TO YOU. I KNOW THAT THE FIRST CITY MCKINNEY'S ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED IN 1969. I APOLOGIZE. I'VE NOT DONE THE RESEARCH TO GO BACK AND SEE IF THIS THAT DEFINITION GOES BACK THAT FAR, BUT I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT IT'S BEEN HERE FOR AT LEAST. SINCE I JOINED THE

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CITY IN 2000 AND SIX BUT THAT DEFINITION AS IT CURRENTLY READS TODAY IS AN ESTABLISHMENT WHERE FOOD IS PREPARED FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC, BUT WHERE THERE ARE NO DESIGNATED AREAS FOR DINING ON THE PREMISES, INDOOR OR OUTDOOR. SO THAT IS THE DEFINITION THAT IS BEING APPLIED TO WHAT? WE'RE ALL REFERENCING AS GHOST KITCHENS. MY UNDERSTANDING, AT LEAST IN MY EXPERIENCE, THAT DEFINITION HAS BEEN IN PLACE UNTOUCHED. SINCE 2000 AND SIX POSSIBLY PRIOR TO THAT. FAR BACK IN 1969 POSSIBLE COULD BE I'VE NOT LOOKED THAT FAR BACK. I THOUGHT OUR ZONING CODES WERE ADOPTED IN 81 IS WIDE SO THAT. YES, SIR. SO LET ME SPEAK TO THAT. IF I MIGHT, SO OUR FIRST ZONING ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED IN 1969. WHAT WE DID IN 1982 WAS RICK CODIFICATION. WE BASICALLY CHANGE THE STRUCTURE. OF OUR CODES. AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK ONLINE, ATM UNICODE, YOU'LL SEE 1982. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REFERENCING IS JUST THE RICK CODIFICATION OF A LOT OF THE CODES WE HAD PRIOR TO 1982. SO IT WASN'T THE FIRST ZONING ORDINANCE WE EVER HAD. WAS BACK IN THE LATE SIXTIES. OKAY? YEAH, YEAH. WHAT I HAVE HEARD.

TODAY AND OTHERWISE IS THAT. GRAVE IS NOW CHANGING WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO, OR. STATING NOW THAT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE SOME KIND OF DYNAMIC OUTSIDE DINING. DOES THAT CHANGE THE DEFINITION THAT WE APPLY IN ANALYZING THIS FACILITY? IT COULD AGAIN DEPENDING ON THE SCOPE AND, UH, DETAILS OF THAT CHANGE, IT COULD HAVE IMPLICATIONS. BUT I'LL TELL YOU AT THIS POINT, AND I HAVE THE SUBMITTAL THAT THEY GAVE TO US ON JUNE 2ND. IT DOES NOT REFERENCE ANY. OF THOSE ASPECTS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED THIS AFTERNOON. NOW AGAIN, NOT SAYING ANYBODY'S ACCURATE, ACCURATE OR INACCURATE. I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT INFORMATION IS NOT BEING COMMUTED. COMMUNICATED TO STAFF AT THIS POINT BEFORE I COMMIT TO WHAT THOSE IMPLICATIONS WOULD BE, I WOULD WANT TO LAY EYES ON IT, SO I DON'T. FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM, I THINK GOING DOWN THE HYPOTHETICAL OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF THOSE CHANGES WERE MADE. I WOULD NOT BE DOING ANYONE ANY SERVICE WITHOUT HAVING LAID EYES ON THE EXTENT OF THOSE CHANGES. APPRECIATE THAT. IS THERE ANY REQUIREMENT ON THE OWNER DEVELOPER TO GIVE YOU. A SPECIFIC DEFINITION. AS FAR AS KITCHENS. GO IN THIS INSTANCE. SO AT THE SIGHT LINE LEVEL DETAIL. WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF KITCHENS. ALL WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS SQUARE FOOTAGE OF BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE OF USE, WHETHER THAT USE B INDOOR DINING OR BE INDOOR KITCHEN OR BE FOOD PREP AREA. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AT THIS POINT. WE'RE NOT LOOKING SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY SAY OF THAT 18,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING 3000 IS FOR INDOOR DINING AND THE OTHER 15. WHATEVER MATH THAT WORKS OUT TO THE LARGER PORTION IS FOR KITCHEN AREA. WE WOULD NOT GO BACK TO THE APPLICANT AND SAY OKAY, YOU'VE GOT 15,000 SQUARE FOOT OF KITCHEN. HOW MANY KITCHENS ARE IN THERE? HOW MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF FOOD? ARE YOU GOING TO BE PREPARING? HOW MANY DIFFERENT CHEFS ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE? THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DO. WE WOULD LOOK AT IT AS YOU HAVE A RESTAURANT OF FIT. 18,000 SQUARE FOOT. YOU'VE GOT A DINING AREA OF 3000, AND YOU'VE GOT A KITCHEN OF 15,000. NOW IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WHEN YOU GET INTO THE BUILDING PLANS OR THE. THE FIRE PLANS THAT THEY MIGHT LOOK AT THOSE THINGS IN MORE DETAIL. I STILL DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GET TO THE LEVEL OF SPECIFICITY. THAT IS. HOW MANY CHEFS ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE? HOW MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF FOOD THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT SQUARE FOOTAGE? AND WHAT IS THE USE? OH, IT'S A KITCHEN. THEY'RE DOING COMMERCIAL FOOD PREP. OKAY. THESE ARE THE CODES THAT APPLY, BUT THAT AT A SITE PLAN LEVEL DETAIL. WE'RE NOT GETTING INTO A NUMBER OF KITCHENS, NUMBER OF CHEFS, ANY OF THAT STUFF. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES THEM TO PICK ONE OF OUR THREE DEFINITIONS THAT YOU AND I JUST DISCUSSED? YES SO THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS THEY DON'T PICK IT DEFINITION. SO THE WAY THAT THE.

CLASSIFICATION PROCESS WORKS FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM IS DEVELOPER WILL COME TO THE CITY WITH A PROPOSED USE. NINE TIMES OUT OF 10. THOSE DEVELOPERS ARE NOT LOOKING AT THE CITY ZONING ORDINANCE FOR LAND USE CLASSIFICATION. IT'S OUR OBLIGATION TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY ARE SO IN THIS CASE. CRAVE CAME TO THE CITY MCKENNEY AND SAID, HEY, WE'VE GOT THIS

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DELIVERY ONLY FOOD. FOOD KITCHEN RESTAURANT TYPE SCENARIO. THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO. SO THEY SUBMIT THAT TO THE CITY STAFF, CITY STAFF GOES THROUGH THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND SAYS, OKAY, THIS IS OUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE APPLICANT WANTS TO DO. WHAT DEFINITION DOESN'T MEET WITHIN, SO WE LOOK THROUGH ALL THE RESTAURANT DEFINITIONS. WE SETTLED ON. CARRY OUT ONLY RESTAURANT. HOWEVER IF WE COULD NOT FIND A DEFINITION THAT THIS PROPOSED USE FIT WITHIN. WE COULD GO THROUGH THE NEW AND UNLISTED USE PROCESS, WHICH BASICALLY REQUIRES US TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL, ULTIMATELY SAYING, HEY, OUR ZONING ORDINANCE DOESN'T INCLUDE THIS TYPE OF USE. WE THINK IT SHOULD BE ALLOWED AND THIS DISTRICT WITH THESE REGULATIONS, POTENTIALLY THESE PARKING. STANDARDS P N Z. WHAT DO YOU THINK? COUNCIL? WHAT DO YOU THINK? BUT IN THIS CASE WE DIDN'T GO THROUGH THAT NEW AND UNLISTED USE BECAUSE WHAT THE APPLICANT WAS DESCRIBING FIT WITHIN THE DEFINITION OF CARRY OUT ONLY RESTAURANT. HYPOTHETICALLY ON. AT THE POINT WE ARE IN THIS PROCEDURE, MY UNDERSTANDING THEY'VE SUBMITTED TO SIDE PLAYING. YES SIR. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS ONCE YOU HAVE A PROPERTY, RIGHT? I'VE ZONING UNDER A CERTAIN CLASSIFICATION. WE CANNOT TAKE THAT AWAY FROM A PERSON BECAUSE THEN BECOMES A PROPERTY TAKING BY THE GOVERNMENT. CORRECT I'LL DEFER TO THE ATTORNEYS ON THE SPECIFICS, BUT I WILL TELL YOU WE RUN INTO SOME LEGAL CHALLENGES VERY QUICKLY IF WE DECIDE TO DO THAT, CORRECT, AND AT THIS STAGE OF THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE IN NOW. AND WE DETERMINED IT WAS AN UNDEFINED YOUTH. COULD WE GO BACK? AND SAY, WAIT A MINUTE. THIS IS AN UNDEFINED USE. BUT. THE STATUTE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VESTED RIGHTS STATUE, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODES CHAPTER 2 45. DID YOU REPEAT THAT AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT CO CHAPTER 2 45, WHICH IS COMMONLY CALLED THE VESTED RIGHTS STATUTE. AND IT'S THERE'S DEFINITIONS THERE ABOUT THE FIRST IN A SERIES OF PERMITS SOFT. AND IN THIS CASE, A PERMIT HAS BEEN SOUGHT BY THIS APPLICANT. AND BY THE CODE BY THE STATE LAW, WHICH IS TALKING ABOUT. ONCE THAT OCCURS AND SATISFIED. IT'S THE FIRST IN A SERIES OF PERMITS THE LAWS IN PLACE AT THAT TIME ARE APPLICABLE. AND IF THE PUBLIC ENTITY CHOOSES TO CHANGE THOSE LAWS, IT WILL NOT AFFECT. LAWS UNDER WHICH THIS APPLICATION WOULD BE CHARGED. EXPOSE FACTOR CORRECT. AND SO, AS I EXPLAINED ONE DAY TO SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT. THOSE APPLY. BESTING APPLIES TO LAND USE REGULATIONS. IT'S MOST OF THE ISSUES THAT MR QUINN TALKED ABOUT RELATING TO THE SITE PLAN, BUT IT DOESN'T APPLY TO HEALTH SAFETY REGULATIONS SUCH AS AS WE MENTIONED IN THE ITEM. ITEMS AFFECTING. YOU KNOW, EMISSIONS, LIGHT NOISE, THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT CAN BE. REVISED OR CHANGED, IT COULD BE APPLIED. TWO. BUSINESSES THAT WERE APPROVED PRIOR. AND THAT'S A VERY KEY POINT. BECAUSE IF THIS COUNCIL. WHERE TO GO INTO THAT, UH. AREA OR TO TRY TO AMEND ORDINANCES RELATING TO EMISSIONS STANDARDS THOSE WOULD APPLY WOULD HAVE TO BE APPLIED UNIFORMLY TO OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE CITY. RETROACTIVELY. RIGHT. IN OTHER WORDS, IF THERE WAS A STANDARD FOR LIGHT OF THIS MANY LUMENS. AND IT WAS DETERMINED THAT IN COMMERCIAL SEE TO THAT LUMENS WOULD HAVE NEEDS TO BE THIS. ALL BUSINESSES WOULD HAVE TO. TYPICALLY WE HAVE A GRACE PERIOD THAT WE ALLOW BUSINESSES TO COMPLY, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO GIVE THOSE BUSINESSES RIGHT TO DO THE OPPORTUNITY. THEN EVERYONE WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THAT LAW. SO. IF THIS COUNCIL WORD TO DECIDE IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. THE KITCHEN MEANS. UP TO THREE STOVES AND NOTHING MORE. WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND APPLY THAT RETROACTIVELY NOT ONLY TO CRAVE, BUT EVERYONE WHO OPERATES A RESTAURANT IN MCKINNEY. NO, NO, I DON'T THINK A KITCHEN IS A REGULATION THAT IS COVERED BY THAT SECTION OF THE VESTED RIGHTS STATUTE. KITCHEN IS NOT A REGULATION RELATING TO HEALTH AND SAFETY AND I'VE USED KITCHEN. I THINK I'M USING KITCHEN AND

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RESTAURANT INTERCHANGEABLY, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. THAT'S OKAY. BUT IF YOU. SAID THAT THE AMOUNT OF CARBON DIOXIDE THAT COMES OUT OF A GIVEN BUSINESS HAS TO BE X. THEN. AND IF A CHANGE THEN THAT WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO OTHER BUSINESSES AS WELL IN THE SAME PERSON.

COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, SO IF IT APPLIED TO CRAVE IT WOULD APPLY TO MARKET STREET BECAUSE THEY'RE COOKING FOOD COMMERCIALLY. YES, SIR. SO IT'S GOING TO BE UNIFORM ACROSS THE BOARD. YES, SIR. AND AT THE PLACE WE ARE IN THIS PROCESS. THAT SHIP HAS SAILED. IS THAT FAIR TO STAY? THE LAND USED APPLICATION FOR PURPOSES OF VESTED RIGHTS. IN MY OPINION, AND I'VE ALREADY ADVISED STAFF AND COUNCIL THAT'S ALREADY IN PROCESS. IT IS AN APPLICATION THAT SHOULD BE THE LAW SHOULD APPLY THAT ARE IN THE BOOKS TODAY. AND WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED BY PLANNING AND ZONING PLANNING AND ZONING. IT'S BEEN PRESENTED A REASON. AND THAT REASON WAS BASED ON SOME CHANGES TO THE OTHER. MICHAEL YOU BOTH STAY THERE, BUT IT'S HELPFUL. PHOTOGRAPHY DIDN'T THINK LAWYERS LIKE TO TALK TO LAWYERS. YEAH I LIKE YOU. THOUGH. WE MAY BE THE ONLY TO GET THIS, BUT SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT QUESTION. SO WHAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CONSIDERED WAS A PENDING REZONING REQUEST AT THE TIME. ARE ACTUALLY CURRENTLY THE ZONING ON THE PROPERTY REQUIRES A TWO STORY BUILDING. THE APPLICANT WAS LOOKING TO REDUCE THAT REQUIREMENT. DOWN TO ONE STORY. OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS RESIDENT OPPOSITION. THE APPLICANT WITHDREW THAT ZONING REQUEST PROCEEDED TO SUBMIT THEIR SITE PLAN ON JUNE 2ND OF THIS YEAR. TO SHOW A TWO STORY CRAVE RESTAURANT BUILDING. THIS IS THEIR OPERATING UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING. CORRECT RIGHT NOW. GOOD QUESTION ALONG THE LINES, AND THEY JUST CAME IN AND SAID WE WANT TO WE HAVE A TWO STORY BUILDING. THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO. THEY COULD HAVE JUST BUILT IT. THEY WOULD HAVE NEVER HAD TO COME TO ASK THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULDN'T HAVE THE KNOWN THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN THEY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. THEY WOULD HAVE JUST BUILT THIS THING AND EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE JUST HAD TO LIVE WITH THE FACT THE FACT THAT THEY CAME IN AND SAID WE WANT TO CHANGE THIS LITTLE BIT IS HOW COME EVERYBODY GOT NOTIFIED, SO THAT'S THAT'S THE THING THAT EVERYBODY HAS TO REMEMBER IS THEY ALWAYS HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND BUILD THIS THING.

AND PUT THEIR KITCHENS YOU KNOW, IN THERE WITH NO. NO APPROVAL FROM ANYBODY OTHER THAN JUST THE SITE PLANT. CORRECT CORRECT OTHER THAN CITY STAFF. IT IS CORRECT. SO THEY WERE A RESTAURANT. THEY'RE NOT ARRESTED. OKAY, WELL, THEN. AGAIN JUST MICHAEL, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THAT DEFINITION? ONE MORE TIME? ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN. ONE SECOND. SO THE DEFINITION OF RESTAURANT OR CAFETERIA CARRY OUT ONLY, UM PER THE CITY'S CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCE IS AN ESTABLISHMENT WHERE FOOD IS PREPARED FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC. WHERE THERE ARE NO DESIGNATED AREAS FOR DINING ON THE PREMISES, INDOOR OR OUTDOOR. SO TAKE PAST SET PASSION ASIDE FOR A MINUTE, AND I'M NOT TAKING AWAY THE ONLY ARGUMENT SO DON'T GET HUNG UP ON THIS. IT'S NOT THE ONLY DISCUSSION POINT. WHAT HE JUST READ. I THINK EVERYONE TAKES PASSION OUT OF IT WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING. NOW WE CAN HAVE A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION AND WE ARE HAVING THAT DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW ABOUT OTHER ASPECTS OF IT. THAT MIGHT BE OUTSIDE OR NOT EVEN OUTSIDE. IT'S NOT OUTSIDE THE DEFINITION, THEY MEET THAT DEFINITION THAT'S DONE. TELL EVERYONE HERE THEY MEET THAT DEFINITION. SO DISCUSSION WE'RE NOW HAVING IS ON THE OTHER ISSUES. CONCERNS POTENTIALLY TRAFFIC, UM, DELIVERY VEHICLES. BUT AGAIN, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE EVERYONE HEARD THAT DEFINITION. AND THERE'S NOBODY HERE THAT CAN SAY THAT'S NOT THAT THEY DON'T MEET THAT DEFINITION. YOU MIGHT SAY THAT THEY HAVE THINGS. IN ADDITION, THAT ARE THAT ARE THAT ARE OFFENSIVE TO THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, AND I GET THAT. I'M SORRY, WE'RE NOT.

IT'S NOT THAT THIS KIND OF CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW. CHARLIE. DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DID. OKAY I DID. AND MISS QUINN, I'M GONNA COUNT AND GIVE YOU A WIDE OPEN QUESTION RIGHT HERE, BUT. IF THEY'VE ALREADY EATEN IF THEY'RE OPERATING UNDER EXISTING ZONING THEY WERE DOING WHAT CAN BE BUILT THERE. IF THIS PROJECT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO FORWARD, IT WOULD EITHER HAVE TO BE VOLUNTARILY BY THE DEVELOPER. OR. THERE. THEY STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, AND THERE ARE CERTAIN REGULATIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET ALONG THE WAY, WOULD YOU MIND FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYBODY HERE

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EXPLAINING THAT PROCEDURE? WHAT AND I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO GIVE ME EVERY DETAIL OF EVERY REGULATION, BUT WHAT ALL CODES ARE INVOLVED IN THAT. AND WHAT ALL THEY HAVE TO MEET IN ORDER TO GET THIS THING FROM WHERE WE ARE NOW TO A FINISHED PRODUCT IF IT GETS THERE. YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO TEST MY KNOWLEDGE OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IN THE CITY. NO KIDDING. I'M REALLY TRYING TO BE EDUCATIONAL FOR EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM AND NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT AND ONE I WANT TO THANK YOU. FIRST STEPPING IN AND PINCH HITTING AT THE LAST MINUTE. WE ALL KNOW I CAN'T DO AS GOOD A JOB AS JENNIFER, BUT I WILL DEFINITELY TRY. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR. COUPLE OF THINGS, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE SITE PLAN PROCESS, AND THAT IS THE FIRST PROCESS IN THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT IS CIVIL PLANS. SO ONCE WE HAVEN'T APPROVED SITE PLAN, YOU'LL HAVE FULL BLOWN CIVIL PLANS. AND WHEN I SAY CIVIL, I MEAN CIVIL ENGINEERING, SO WE HAVE OUR ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL THAT ADDRESSES. EVERYTHING FROM WATER LINES. WASTEWATER LINES STORMS, WHO ARE ROAD CONSTRUCTION, FIRE LINE CONSTRUCTION. ALL OF THAT STUFF IS COVERED BY OUR ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL SO. ONCE THE SITE PLAN IS APPROVED THE CRAVE FOLKS WILL HAVE TO SUBMIT THEIR CIVIL PLANS, AND THAT'S WHERE ALL THE WHAT I CALL SUB SERVICE OR HORIZONTAL INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE. EVALUATED AND APPROVED IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE CITY'S ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL. FROM THERE, YOU MOVE FORWARD TO THE VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE SUBMITTING CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR COMPLIANCE WITH ALL WHAT WE CALLED MODEL CODES.

THOSE ARE THE BUILDING CODES. INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE, THE PLUMBING CODE MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL. THESE ARE ALL THE CODES WERE APPLYING AT THAT POINT. YES SIR. JUST A THOUGHT.

WE DON'T HAVE. ANY PRECEDENT FOR THIS NUMBER OF KITCHENS. LET'S SAY IT SEVEN FOR THE PURPOSES OF MY QUESTION, BUT DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER FACILITIES AND MCKINNEY THAT CURRENTLY RUNS? SEVEN KITCHENS ARE MORE UNDER ONE ROOF TO MY KNOWLEDGE. NO BUT I HAVE TO HAVE TWO CAVEAT THAT ANSWER WITH THE NUMBER OF KITCHENS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF MCKINNEY WILL EVER EVALUATE AGAIN. REMEMBER AT THE PLANNING STAGE, WE'RE LOOKING AT LAND USE, NOT THE NUMBER OF KITCHENS IN A FACILITY. EVEN WHEN WE GET TO THE BUILDING AND FIRE CODES, WE'RE LOOKING AT SQUARE FOOTAGE OF A USE. OH YOU'VE GOT A KITCHEN. HOW BIG IS YOUR KITCHEN THAT'S GOING TO DICTATE INGRESS. INGRESS FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEMS, BUT NEVER ARE WE GOING TO SAY HOW MANY KITCHENS HOW MANY DIFFERENT DISTINCT TYPES OF FOOD? HOW MANY DIFFERENT CHEFS DO YOU HAVE? SO THE CITY MCKINNEY TYPICALLY. THAT THAT I KNOW OF WERE NEVER GOING TO ASK. HOW MANY KITCHENS ARE YOU OPERATING OUT OF THIS RESTAURANT? I KNOW FOR THE I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE CITY OF MCKINNEY HAS OTHER GHOST KITCHENS. IN ITS CURRENT CITY LIMITS, ARE THEY. SEVEN KITCHENS. NO I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, NOR THEY REQUIRED TO REGISTER THAT INFORMATION WITH US. BUT DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO THINK IT THROUGH FROM THE APPLICATION OF THE PLUMBING CODE AND THE FIRE CODE ARE TWO THINGS THAT CAME TO MIND. ABSOLUTELY SO PLUMBING CODE. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF FIXTURES PLAIN AND SIMPLE. HOW MANY PEOPLE PUT THAI FOOD IN THOSE PICTURES VERSUS PIZZA VERSUS BURGERS? RELEVANT TO US. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF PICTURES AGAIN IN TERMS OF FIRE SUPPRESSION. WE'RE LOOKING AT SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING THE OCCUPANT LOAD OF THE BUILDING THE OCCUPANCY TYPE OF THE BUILDING. THAT IS GOING TO DICTATE YOUR FIRE SUPPRESSION, NOT HOW MANY STOVES DO WE HAVE SURE YOU HAVE VENT HOODS THAT HAD THE COMMERCIAL EXTINGUISHERS ON THEM, AND THOSE PROVISIONS WILL APPLY THROUGH THE FIRE CODE.

BUT IN TERMS OF HOW YOU'VE GOT. THIS TYPE OF FOOD BEING PREPARED HERE OR THIS? IT'S REALLY NOT GERMANE TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AND SHOULDN'T SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE WAY WE APPLY. OUR ARE VARIOUS CODES AND ORDINANCES TO THESE TYPES OF USES. FOR MY IDENTIFICATION. ELIZABETH WHO WENT TO COLLEGE BEFORE THERE WAS THE INTERNET AND WE USED A THING CALLED BOOKS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE. SO, YEAH. UM AND I RECALL HAVING A COPY OF THE BUILDING CODE AND THE OFFICE I WORKED IN AT THE TIME, AND IT WAS ABOUT THAT THICK. IN THE EARLY 19 EIGHTIES. CAN YOU GIVE ME AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY CAN SEE THAT IF WE TOOK IT FROM THE INTERNET AND PUT IT TO A BOOK FOR HIM? HOW THICK WOULD THIS BUILDING CODE? NOW BE? YOU'RE YOU'RE ASSUMING IT'S JUST ONE CODE. I WILL TELL YOU. WE HAVE ALL OF THEM. WE CALL THEM MODEL CODES. LET ME GO WITH PLUMBING CODE FOR SO THE PLUMBING CODE IS GOING TO YEAH, GOING TO BE ABOUT THAT BIG, OKAY AND FIRE CODE. SAME THING. THEY'RE ALL ABOUT THAT BIG, BUT

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I WILL TELL YOU THIS WHEN YOU STACK UP ALL THE CODES, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, MECHANICAL, ALL OF THEM FIRE. YOU'VE GOT A STACK OF BOOKS ABOUT THAT BIG. YEAH. AND FAIR STATEMENT THAT NO ONE ON THIS STAFF HAS THOSE BABIES MEMORIZED. TRY I DON'T THINK IT'S POSSIBLE OKAY, AND SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ASPECTS OF. CODES THIS THICK ARE GOING TO COME INTO PLAY AS THIS CONTINUES TO DEVELOP. I'M SURE SOMEBODY DOES. I'M SURE SOMEBODY ACROSS THE STREET COULD GIVE YOU A GENERAL IDEA, BUT IN TERMS OF ME STANDING HERE, SUFFICE IT TO SAY ALL OF THEM WILL APPLY. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHICH, TO WHAT EXTENT WILL THEY APPLY? BECAUSE TOO MAY THIS IS A FAIRLY NOVEL CONCEPT IN BUILDINGS, AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS CONTEMPLATED BY OUR CURRENT CODE. AND SO EVERYONE KNOWS WE'RE REVAMPING THOSE CODES RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S PROBABLY WHAT 34 YEAR PROCESS OF REVAMPING THOSE CODES. HOWEVER. BACK TO MR HAUSER'S POINT. EVEN THOUGH WE REVAMPED THOSE CODES, THEY DO NOT HAVE A RETROACTIVE AFFAIR TO WHERE WE CAN GO BACK AND APPLY THOSE SOMEONE WHO IS ALREADY IN THE ZONING. AND BUILDING APPROVAL PROCESS UNLESS IT'S A HEALTH SAFETY WELFARE AT WHICH POINT WE CAN. OTHERWISE YOU'RE CORRECT. AND HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE GOING TO FALL UNDER THE COACH. EVEN THERE, BUT A LITTLE BIT MORE WAS PHILLIPS. OKAY? IT TALKS ABOUT THE UNIFORM CODES THAT YOU JUST WENT THROUGH WITH MR QUIT, AND IT TALKS ABOUT CHANGES TO THE UNIFORM CODES OR LOCAL AMENDMENTS TO THOSE CODES ENACTED SOLELY TO ADDRESS IMMINENT THREATS OR DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY OR INJURY TO PERSONS. SO YOU'RE BASICALLY BE AMENDING A UNIFORM CODE TO ADD SOME. CAVEAT OR PROVISION THAT WOULD ADDRESS UH, HARM LIKE WE MENTIONED WITH. MISSIONS, FOR INSTANCE, OR LIGHT OR THINGS LIKE. AND AS FARM AS EMISSIONS ARE CONCERNED. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S GONNA KNIT YOU ANYTHING. WELL, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T FIRST OF ALL, MR. QUINT DOESN'T KNOW HOW MANY KITCHENS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR DAMPERS ARE, AND THEY'RE CLEANERS. I MEAN, THEY MAYBE SOME OF THE FINEST YOU KNOW? EMISSION CONTROL. THERE ARE SO. THE STANDARD IS ALREADY IN OUR CODE. CURRENTLY THEY MAY MEET IT THE DAY THEY OPENED OR THEY MAY NOT. AND AGAIN. ONCE THEY GET A BUILDING PERMIT. WE HAVE TO BUILD THEIR BUILDING ACCORDING TO ALL THESE CODES, AND THEY'LL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE UNDER ALL THESE CODES. AS YOU KNOW, WE OFTEN GET COMPLAINTS. AND WE ADDRESS THOSE REGARDING CODE ENFORCEMENT. ONE OF THE TWO OF YOU TELL ME. WHEN WILL TRAFFIC BEING CONSIDERATION? IN THIS PROCEDURE, SO WILL IT BE A CONSIDERATION SO THE TRAFFIC IS A CONSIDERATION AT THE SITE PLAN, LEVEL OR SITE PLAN STAGE, BUT I WILL. I WILL OFFER A CAVEAT. WE CANNOT DENY LAND USE BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC. WE CAN ONLY APPLY ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS. FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE DIDN'T ALREADY REQUIRED TURN LANES OR DECELERATION LANES WE COULD SAY, HEY, YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THIS USE IS GOING TO GENERATE A WHOLE BUNCH OF TRAFFIC YOU NEED TO BUILD AND DEDICATE RIGHT OF WAY FOR A DECELERATION LANE THAT THE SAFETY ASPECT OF THAT IS GET CARS THAT ARE SLOWING DOWN TO GET OFF THE ROAD. GO INTO THIS FACILITY, GET THEM OUT OF THE TRAVEL LANES SO THAT THEY CAN SLOW DOWN SAFELY AND NOT BACK UP TRAFFIC. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD REQUIRE. AFTER EVALUATING THE TRAFFIC, THE CHALLENGES THE CITY OF MCKINNEY'S CODES DESIGN ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL ALREADY REQUIRES THAT UPFRONT. UM SO IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS, IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER WHAT I SAID. WE CANNOT DENY A LAND USE BASED ON TRAFFIC IF THE USE IS ENTITLED, THE USE IS ALLOWED. WE NOW JUST HAVE TO GOVERN THE INTENSITY AND THE IMPACTS OF THAT DEVELOPMENT SO WE CAN REQUIRE TURN LANES. BUT THOSE TURN LANES ARE ALREADY REQUIRED. AND SO WE CAN REQUIRE ADDITIONAL RIGHT. AVOID DEDICATION. BUT AGAIN, COLLIN MCKINNEY IS ALREADY BUILT TO ACCOMMODATE. WAY MORE TRAFFIC THAN IT CURRENTLY HOLDS. AND SO IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL IMPACTS THAT TRAFFICKED TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WOULD DO OR ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS. THERE'S NOT REALLY MORE THAT WE CAN REQUIRE OTHER THAN WHAT'S ALREADY REQUIRED BY THE CITY'S CODE. ANSWER THE QUESTION, SIR. I WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING JUST

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WANTED TO ADD. ONE MORE THING IS ONE OF THE SPEAKERS MENTIONED. DEBORAH STRETCHED HANSON AND COMMERCIAL ASSOCIATION HOLD ASSOCIATION. WE DON'T. ENFORCE THOSE RESTRICTIONS. WE DON'T ENFORCE THE RESTRICTIONS. IN THE CITY OF HOUSTON, THAT THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE. THEY DON'T HAVE ZONING. WE HAVE ZONING. THAT'S OUR LEVEL OF LAYER OF REGULATION, AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLICS AWARE THAT THOSE ARE TO BE ENFORCED.

THROUGH THE PRIVATE MHM. ASSOCIATIONS. CAN I INTERJECT ONE SECOND AND PARKING? EXCUSE ME, UM, OVERNIGHT PARKING 50 VEHICLES. WHERE DOES THAT FALL NOT FALL. YOU KNOW, UM, INTERPRETATION REGULATION? YES SO AT THIS POINT, THE CITY DOESN'T PROHIBIT OVERNIGHT PARKING AS LONG AS IT'S OFF STREET. SO IN THIS SCENARIO, IF THERE WERE 50 CARS PARKED THERE OVERNIGHT, IT WOULD NOT VIOLATE ANY PARKING REGULATIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT WE WOULD BE EVALUATING THAT AT THE SITE PLAN STAGE OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. YES THIS FOR MR HAUSER. BUT ARE YOU AWARE THAT THERE HAS BEEN A NEW ORDINANCE SAYING THAT THE COUNCILMAN AT LARGE NUMBER ONE CAN ONLY ASK 25 QUESTIONS? I THOUGHT IT WAS 26. WELL, I'M WITH YOU NOW WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP. THANK YOU. MR QUINT AND MR HAUSER. I WANT TO THANK YOU BOTH FOR EDUCATING ME AND EVERYONE ELSE AS TO WHERE WE ARE IN THIS PROCEDURE AND WANTS TO BE EXPECTED. FOR THE MOST PART, I'M GOING TO TRY NOT TO ASK ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE BENEFIT OF MY COLLEAGUES. THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH. I'D FIRST LIKE TO THANK CHARLIE FOR HIS QUESTIONS. DEPENDS NOW FULLY UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE NEED TO GO NOW. UM ONE THING I WANT TO UNDERSTAND IS THE PROCESS THAT IF WE DECIDE TO GO FORWARD ON A STUDY, AN EMISSION STUDY OR WHATEVER. UM WE COME TO A CONCLUSION. AS A COUNCIL. WE STILL HAVE TO VOTE ON WHETHER WE WANTED TO ENACT IT, DON'T WE? ABSOLUTELY, IT WOULD BE AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT. TO A ONE OF OUR UNIFORM CODES. SO IF WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, AND WE GET TO THE END, AND WE SEE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE ONEROUS ON EVERYBODY, AND WE CAN CHOOSE NOT TO DO ANYTHING. THAT'S CORRECT, RIGHT? OKAY. MHM. THAT WAS MY CONCERN. OBVIOUSLY. THAT WOULDN'T BE MY FIRST PLACE TO PUT A GOES KITCHEN NUMBER ONE. SO I UNDERSTAND THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE UP HERE. WAS WAS KIND OF LIKE THE MAYOR WAS TAKEN BACK WITH THE ACCUSATIONS THAT WERE MADE. AND CANNED MAYBE MAD FOR A MINUTE. BUT I UNDERSTAND THE PASSION THAT THEY HAVE. I UNDERSTAND YOUR PASSION FOR YOUR COMMUNITY. I HOPE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN BECAUSE THAT'S AS FAR FROM THE TRUTH IS, COULD BE UM. I THINK THAT MOVING FORWARD ON A ON A STUDY WOULD BE A PRUDENT THING TO DO. HAVING THE GHOST KITCHENS HAVE NEVER BEEN IN THE REALLY? WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO DEAL WITH HIM. IT WOULD MAKE THEM FEEL BETTER THAT IF THERE ARE SOME MISSION EMISSIONS PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE TAKEN FULL STATURE TO ADDRESS THEM. SO. THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY COMMENT TIRED. YOU HAVE 27 MORE QUESTIONS, OKAY. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE NOT AT LARGE OUTSIDE THE ONLY AT LARGE. OKAY? SORRY. LARGE NUMBER ONE. YEAH. UM OTHER QUESTIONS. I'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING OTHER FOLKS. I UNDERSTAND YOU COME IN HERE AND YOU THINK WE'RE NOT? PAYING ATTENTION. I SEE A LOT OF YOUR FACES CONSTANTLY CHANGING, LIKE WHICH HANGING ON EVERY WORD. NOBODY IN HERE IS BENEFITING FROM THIS GHOST KITCHEN. WE'RE ACTUALLY IT'S A WE DON'T WANT FOLKS COMING IN HERE MAD AT US. YOU KNOW THAT. THAT'S NOT HOW CITIES WORK. WE WANT FOLKS COMING IN HERE. SAYING YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE GETTING DONE AND. FIXING A PROBLEM FIXING THE PROBLEM STARTS RIGHT HERE. PLEASE DON'T COME IN HERE AND TELL US THAT WE'RE TAKING THE BAIT. ER OR WE'RE TAKING THE MONEY FOR IT. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANYONE FEEL GOOD. I DID. I DIDN'T FEEL GOOD, ESPECIALLY AS A POLICE OFFICER. THEN I'M BEING PAID OFF TO BE TO BETTER GHOST KITCHEN IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS. WHEN I JUST FOUND OUT WHAT THE HELL THEY WERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. SO I SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING IT A LONG TIME AGO. I GUESS. UH NO. AND I WOULDN'T WANT IT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD EITHER, BUT I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN GET THIS RESOLVED BY PUTTING THE ORDINANCE CENTER FIXING THIS PROBLEM BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY NOT THE ONLY WE'RE PROBABLY NOT THE ONLY CITY THAT HAS THIS PROBLEM. I'M SURE EVERYONE ELSE IS IN THE SAME BOAT, AND THESE COMPANIES ARE LOOKING TO DO THE SAME THING IF THEY'RE OUT THERE, SO FIXING IT HERE

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WORKING TOGETHER IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO FIX IT. SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO SAY IT.

CHARLIE. PRETTY MUCH DID THE OTHER 32 QUESTIONS. SO SO I WOULD, UM. MARK THAT'S PROBABLY QUESTION FOR YOU, UM. IF WE WERE TO IF IT WAS THE WILL THE COUNCIL TO ASK STAFF TO GO BACK AND STUDY THESE SEVERAL ISSUES. UM AND WE. REQUESTED TO COME BACK IN 30 DAYS OR I THINK SOMEWHERE AROUND JULY 20TH. I THINK WE HAVE A MEETING IN JULY. 20TH CORRECT. UM YOU HAVE ANY LIABILITY THERE? WITH REGARD WHEN I SAY LIABILITY NOW TALKING ABOUT. NO CRAVING A BUSINESS WHO CRAVES MOVING FORWARD UNDER CURRENT REGULATIONS, WHETHER THEY MEET THE CODE IS UP TO THEM. AND THE STAFF WILL TREAT THEM LIKE ANY OTHER APPLICANTS. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY IN A STAGE WHERE THEY COULD GET A BUILDING PERMIT. WITHIN THAT TIME PERIOD. BUT AS I MENTIONED EARLIER WE'D BE TALKING ABOUT STANDARDS THAT APPLIED RIGHT POST. NO, AND THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT KIND OF THING I MENTIONED EARLY ON. I MEAN, WE.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY SEATS HERE BUT IN IT SEES HAS MULTIPLE, MANY, MANY KITCHENS. MANY, MANY CHEFS, UM MHM. I THINK WE HAVE KROGER MARKET STREET. UM. COSTCO ALL HAVE MULTIPLE &-PD COOKS AND ALL THAT. WE PROBABLY OWE US THAT KIND OF DATA AS WELL AS TO WHAT KIND OF BUSINESSES WOULD BE AFFECTED BY REGULATIONS THAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER SO. UNLESS IS THERE OTHER COMMENTS? I HAVE I HAVE A COMMENT WE'VE GOT WE KEEP GETTING EMAILS. UM. THE STAFF BETWEEN STAFF AND SOME OF Y'ALL, UH. TRYING TO HELP STAFF DO THEIR JOB. AND IT'S NOT PRODUCTIVE. IT'S NOT PRODUCTIVE TO SAY WE WOULD APPRECIATE BEING COPIED AT ALL SUBMISSIONS AND COMMENTS. UM. IF YOU THINK ABOUT I KNOW YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS ONE THING. BUT IF STAFF WERE ASKED BY CITIZENS TO DO THAT ON EVERY PROJECT THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE SAYING, OH, I WANT TO BE COPIED ON THIS AND THAT. IT WOULD BE A NIGHTMARE. WE'D HAVE TO HIRE FIVE STAFF JUST TO KEEP UP WITH. KEEPING UP WITH COMMENTS. DON'T ASK THE STEP. PLEASE DON'T ASK THE STEP TO DO THAT. I APPRECIATE COMMENTS TO THE STAFFER, QUESTIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT. THAT'S NOT REALLY REASONABLE TO EXPECT CITY STAFF TO DO IS COPY YOU PERSONALLY ON ON INFORMATION BEING BEING SUBMITTED AND APPROVED THROUGHOUT THE APPROVAL PROCESS.

I'M SURE THERE'S A PLACE THAT THAT YOU CAN GO AND LOOK IT UP ON THE WEBSITE. AND SEE WHERE IT IS. AND I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU GOING THERE VERSUS ASKING THE STAFF FOR UPDATES AND WHATNOT. UM. THE OTHER THING THAT I UNDERSTAND THE PASSION. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ANGER.

I, UM. I GUESS THERE SHOULD BE ANGER IF WE WEREN'T LISTENING IF WE DIDN'T COME TO MEETINGS IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS MEETING, BUT BUT TO COME OUT HERE AND REALLY I JUST FELT. JUST I MEAN, IT'S JUST BEEN INTERESTING. I MEAN, IT DOESN'T HELP YOUR CAUSE TO MAKE THE ACCUSATIONS OR TO GET ANGRY AT US, AND WE'RE ON YOUR SIDE. WE'RE ON THE SIDE OF MCKINNEY, TEXAS, BUT WE ARE CONFINED. MY LAWS. AND ORDINANCES. AND WE'RE DOING OUR BEST. AND IF ONE OF YOU WERE SITTING UP HERE, YOU WOULD BE DOING THE EXACT SAME THING AS US YOU WOULDN'T BE ANY DIFFERENT AND UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND THE ENTIRE PICTURE. THERE'S NOT ONE BIT OF DIFFERENCE YOU WOULD BE DOING THAN WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET DONE. KIND OF ON THE BACK SIDE, DAVID CRAIG CONTINUES TO WORK. AND IF AND IF AND IF WE CAN GET SOME CHANGES HERE WILL GET SOME CHANGES IF WE CAN KIND OF SLOW THIS DOWNERS OR HELP THEM FIND SOMEBODY ELSE. WE'LL GET THAT. BUT DON'T GET ANGRY AT US. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. IT'S JUST COMPLETELY UNMOTIVATED. FROM OUR STANDPOINT TO HAVE PEOPLE JUST GET MAD AT US WHEN WE HAVE NO. NOTHING TO DO. WITH WHAT'S GOING ON. AND LIKE I SAID, IF HAD THEY NOT ASK FOR US. SINGLE BILL, THEY'D BE IN THE PROCESS AND HAVE THIS HAPPEN. THIS THING WOULD ALREADY BUILT BY NOW. AND SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM. AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU BE. BE PATIENT WITH THIS BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT WE CAN YES. SO I WOULD, UM, MAKE A MOTION. AT. WE DO ASK STAFF TO LOOK AT THE SEVERAL ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP EMISSIONS. ALSO, WHAT WHO WOULD BE IMPACTED WITHIN THE CITY? UM BUT ALSO ON. I GUESS I GUESS PARKING OVERNIGHT HAS ALREADY ADDRESSED. I HAD

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THOUGHT UNTIL THIS MEETING THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS OUTSIDE OF. DEFINITION OR THERE IS A CAVEAT IN THERE, BUT I GUESS NOT. UM. SO SOUNDS LIKE THE ONLY, UH OPTION. WE HAVE.

AND THE PRUDENT THING. CERTAINLY ARGUABLY, THE PRUDENT THING IS TO STUDY THAT. UM, WHAT IS THE. WHAT IS THE IMPACT THERE AND OTHER BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN EXISTENCE RIGHT NOW? A SECOND. SECOND THAT ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT. RIGHT? IF YOU PLEASE. CAST YOUR VOTE.

I'M VOTING FOR IT. ONCE I GET LOGGED IN. MOTION PASSES WILL DO HAVE STAFF WILL STUDY THAT ISSUE AS WELL. AS HOW WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE ON OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE COMMUNITY, AND WE'LL SHOOT FOR 30 DAYS. JUST REMEMBER, UH, MAKE ONE COMMENT WITHOUT ASKING A QUESTION. FOR YOUR BENEFIT. THE COUNCIL IS NOT ALLOWED TO DISCUSS. THIS IS A BODY UNLESS WE'RE MEETING IN A PUBLIC MEETING. AND SO WE HAVE NOT BEEN. NOT AT LIBERTY TO DISCUSS ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU HEARD HERE THIS EVENING. OBVIOUSLY I WAS TRYING TO GET US TO THE POINT OF UNDERSTANDING HOW WE GOT HERE AND WHERE WE CAN GO FROM HERE. AND I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I LIKE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD VERY MUCH. I ADMIRE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS A GROUP ALTOGETHER. YOU'VE COME TOGETHER ON THIS ISSUE, AND I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH AND I'M DRYING TO EXPLORE WHAT ARE POSSIBILITIES ARE PUBLICLY. SO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE KNOW WHAT WE CAN AND WHAT WE CANNOT DO. AND I APOLOGIZE IF I WAS LONG WINDED, ESPECIALLY TO MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL HAD AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE FROM HERE GOING FORWARD, BECAUSE NOBODY LIVES THAT WE GOT HERE. AND I APPRECIATE THAT HAPPENED VERY, VERY MUCH. SO, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND THANK YOU, MR MAYOR FOR LETTING MAYBE SO LONG WITH CHARLIE THAT THAT WAS THAT WAS A GREAT POINT. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE. SOME OF THE ANGER THAT WAS EXPRESSED. UH WAS, UM. AT THE MOST OFFENSIVE STUFF, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER THAT WE DON'T CARE. WHY NOT DO ANYTHING? WE'RE NOT RESPONDING. YOU KNOW, SINCE WE LEARNED OF THIS. THINK EVERYONE UP HERE MYSELF INCLUDED HAS WRITTEN LETTERS TO CRAVE MANAGEMENT CRAVE OWNERSHIP, UM, MET WITH THE DEVELOPER AND HE'S BEEN OUT TRYING TO FIND OTHER PROPERTIES OFFERING TO MITIGATE EXPENSES THEY'VE ALREADY HAD, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE MADE WHOLE IF THEY WOULD CONSIDER ANOTHER OTHER LOCATIONS. WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION IN THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. WE'VE SAID A SPECIAL MEETING TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AGAIN AND TO YOUR POINT CHARLIE, WHICH IS REALLY A GREAT POINT. WE ARE THE ONLY TIME WE CAN DISCUSS THIS ISN'T A MEETING LIKE RIGHT HERE. SO I MEAN, WHEN WE HAD A MEETING WHAT WAS LAST WEEK AND WE SAID A SPECIAL MEETING THIS WEEK.

WE'RE ACTUALLY QUITE ENGAGED ON THIS SUBJECT. IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE AFTER LAST MEETING ALL OF US. HEY, MAN, LET'S GET TOGETHER STARBUCKS AND TALK ABOUT THIS AND TRY TO GET SOMETHING DONE. THAT WOULD BE WHAT'S CALLED ILLEGAL, THEN YOU CAN MAKE AN ACCUSATION THAT WOULD BE ACCURATE ABOUT US DOING SOMETHING NOT PROPER. UM SO. KNOW THAT IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE ONLY TIME WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION IS IN THIS KIND OF SETTING RIGHT HERE AND WE'RE SETTING MEETINGS. SPECIAL MEETINGS FOR THIS VERY, VERY REASON. SO. THAT WAS A GREAT POINT. THANKS FOR MAKING THAT ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON NOW TO OUR WE'RE GOING TO GO

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Resolution of the City Council of the City of McKinney, Texas, Regarding the Application of Pedcor Investments L.P. to the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs (TDHCA), for 4% Tax Credits for the Construction of Multi-Family Units Within the Development]

BACK TO 210567 CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ACT ON THE RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL. CITY MCCAIN, TEXAS REGARDING APPLICATION OF HEADQUARTER INVESTMENTS LP TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING, COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, OR 4% TAX CREDITS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF MULTI FAMILY UNITS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. HOW ARE YOU? WELL GENETIC AND HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER SO I'M HERE THIS AFTERNOON TO INTRODUCE PAID CORE INVESTMENTS. UH, REQUEST FOR A RESOLUTION OF. CAN I INTERRUPT? YOU WOULD. WOULD YOU TAKE A MINUTE? LET

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THESE FOLKS LEAVE BECAUSE I WON'T BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU WITH THE WRESTLING IN THE BACKGROUND.

MY APOLOGIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR TAKING A BREAK.

RIGHT? I THINK YOU'RE GOOD TO GO. OKAY. THANK YOU. GENETIC AND HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. SO I'M HERE THIS AFTERNOON TO INTRODUCE THE ITEM AND PAID CORE INVESTMENTS IS ASKING CITY COUNCIL FOR A RESOLUTION OF NO OBJECTION. FOR THEIR AFFORDABLE MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. 240 UNIT MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF WILMOTH. AND COMMUNITY AVENUE. UM THE REASON THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR RESOLUTION OF NO OBJECTION IS BECAUSE THEY ARE APPLYING FOR TAX CREDITS THROUGH TD HCEA, TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS. IN ORDER FOR THEIR APPLICATION FOR TAX CREDITS TO MOVE FORWARD. THEY DO NEED A RESOLUTION OF NO OBJECTION. SO THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT RESOLUTIONS ON THE AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT RESOLUTION OF NO OBJECTION RESOLUTION OF.

OPPOSITION AND A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT. THEY ARE ASKING FOR A RESOLUTION OF NO OBJECTION AGAIN. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST, BUT THESE ARE TAX CREDIT UNITS, SO IT IS THE WAY THAT THEY ARE FINANCED IS THE REASON. WHEN OTHER MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS, UM COME IN. WE DON'T COME TO YOU AND ASK FOR RESOLUTION OF NO OBJECTION. THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY'RE FINANCED THROUGH THC THAT IS PART OF THEIR APPLICATION PROCESS. WE DO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT REPRESENTATIVE JEAN LATSHAW WITH PET CORE INVESTMENTS IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AND, UH, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. JUST IN CASE. UM AND WE ALL KNOW APPEAR, BUT ANYONE THAT'S JUST TUNING IN AND DIDN'T CATCH THE LAST MEETING. THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT, UM DID HAVE ALREADY MULTI FAMILY. MM. USE USES ON THE PROPERTY, ALBEIT IT WAS TWO STORY. UM THIS DEVELOPERS COME IN ONE SHOULD HAS COMMITTED HAS TO WITH THIS PROGRAM, BUT THE CLASS A PRODUCT. THE THREE STORY. THE NUMBER OF UNITS DID INCREASE. UH SLIGHTLY BY ADDING A SLIVER OF UNDEVELOPED MOBILE. COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. AND THE IDEA BEING, OF COURSE, THAT WITH THE TAX CREDIT PROGRAM, THEY'RE ABLE TO HAVE A REDUCTION IN COSTS THAT WAY TO BE ABLE TO OFFER A AFFORDABLE, UM, RATE WORKFORCE HOUSING RATE VERSUS A. DEGRADATION OR OR DOWNGRADE OF MATERIALS AND CONSTRUCTION, WHICH, AS A CITY WE CAN NO LONGER. MANDATE WHAT MATERIALS THEY USE. SO JUST FOR THOSE WHO NOT WATCHING LAST WEEK. BE A FAIR THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS CORRECT. AND THE CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVED ZONING LAST WEEK SO THE PROPERTY IS APPROPRIATELY ZONED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. ON ENTERTAINMENT MOTION. RIGHT? OPEN. I'M SORRY. IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING CORRECT. UM SORRY. IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM, AND I HAVE THREE DEREK CRUTCHER. AFTER DEREK WILL BE DION CABELL.