Feb 15, 2022 City Council Work Session on 2022-02-15 3:00 PM

[CALL TO ORDER]

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O'CLOCK ON TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 15TH. WE'RE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 2 TO 2 NORTH TENNESSEE STREET. MCKINNEY, TEXAS. FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENTS AND I DON'T SEE ANYBODY THAT HAS SIGNED UP. NEXT IS. COMMENTS ON THE AGENDA FOR ANYBODY WITH ANYTHING ANYBODY LIKE TO PULL ANYTHING DOWN. REGULAR MEETINGS. ANYBODY THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR WORK SESSION ITEMS. PARTING WITH ITEM NUMBER 220134 CONSIDERING DISCUSSED THE ANNUAL AUDIT

[Consider/Discuss the Annual Audit Results, and the Acceptance of the Annual Comprehensive Financial Report (ACFR) and the Federal/State Single Audit Reports for the Fiscal Year Ended September 30, 2021]

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[Presentation on New City of McKinney Website]

AS AN EXAMPLE FOR OTHER CITIES AND OTHER COUNTY GOVERNMENTS. WHAT THEY SHOULD GO WITH IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL DESIGN. BUT AS TECHNOLOGY CHANGED AND THE WAY PEOPLE ACCESS THE WEBSITE CHANGED, IT BECAME LESS AND LESS ABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR END USERS. BETWEEN 2016 AND 2019 WEBSITE, TRAFFIC SHIFTED. WITH MOBILE TRAFFIC BECOMING JUST OVER 50% OF ALL WEBSITE TRAFFIC.

AND IN SOME DEPARTMENTS, THAT NUMBER WAS AS HIGH AS 90% MOBILE. SO THE MOBILE VIEW BECAME VERY IMPORTANT. NOW OUR LATEST WEBSITE, LET. LATEST WEBSITE REDESIGN WAS ORIGINALLY SLATED FOR 2020. SO IN 2019 WE STARTED TALKING TO THE DEPARTMENT'S ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE STICKING POINTS WITH THE WEBSITE OR AND WE FOUND THAT THE PUBLIC AND OUR CSRS WERE ALMOST SPEAKING A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE WHEN IT CAME TO NAVIGATING THE WEBSITE BECAUSE THE MOBILE VIEWS

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AH, IF THEY WERE EXPERIENCING THE SAME ISSUES THAT WE SAW IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE LOOKED AT THEIR WEBSITES TO TRY AND IDENTIFY TRENDS TO FIND OUT HOW THEY HAD SOLVED THEIR ACCESS ISSUES. AND FROM THOSE CITIES, WE HEARD MANY OF THE SAME CONCERNS. THE DESKTOP AND MOBILE VIEWS WERE TOO DIFFERENT. UM LONGER PARAGRAPHS OF TEXT WERE A TURNING PEOPLE OFF THAT THE LARGE, BEAUTIFUL BANNER IMAGES WERE TAKING TOO LONG TO LOAD ON MOBILE AND THEY WERE JUST LOGGING OFF AND CALLING THE CITY RESULTING IN HIGHER CALL LEVELS AND THAT CAN BE AN ISSUE. WIN, 2020 ROLLED AROUND AND COVID HIT WE MADE THE DECISION TO PUT OFF THE WEBSITE REDESIGNED FOR A YEAR DUE TO LIMITED RESOURCES. BUT WE WERE ENTITLED DURING THAT TIME WE WENT AHEAD AND STARTED MAKING ADJUSTMENTS TO OUR CONTENT. NOW THIS WAS KEY BECAUSE WE HAVE WHAT'S KNOWN AS A RESPONSIVE WEBSITE. THAT MEANS THAT YOU MAINTAIN THE WEBSITE IN ONE LOCATION, AND IT'S THE SAME INFORMATION THAT PEOPLE SEE WHATEVER DEVICE THEY'RE ACCESSING THE WEBSITE ON. SO IF THEY'RE ACCESSING IT ON MOBILE THROUGH ACCESSING IT ON TABLET. DESKTOP. IT'S ALL THE SAME INFORMATION. BUT HERE'S THE HEAT. DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LAY OUT. THE INFORMATION ON A WEB PAGE CAN AFFECT ITS VIEW AND MOBILE. SO YOU CAN MAKE YOUR PAGES MORE MOBILE FRIENDLY JUST BY ADJUSTING THE CONTENT, SO WE STARTED DOING THAT DURING 2020. OR YEAH, DURING 2020. SO BASED ON OUR RESEARCH. UM WE STARTED ADDING WHAT ARE CALLED ANCHOR LINKS AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE HERE . THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON DESKTOP AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IN MOBILE. AND THOSE GO AHEAD AND THEY JUMP PEOPLE UP AND DOWN THE SCREEN TO GET TO THE CONTENT THAT THEY WANT TO GET TO YOU. WE ALSO CONSOLIDATED INFORMATION WHERE APPROPRIATE TO CUT DOWN ON THE NUMBER OF PAGE CLICKS.

PEOPLE HAD TO GO THROUGH TO GET TO THE INFORMATION THEY WANTED. AND WE ADDED TILES TO CERTAIN PAGES TO GIVE PEOPLE A MORE APT LIKE FEELING. AND UM, BECAUSE OF THIS PROCESS, WE WERE ABLE TO GET OUR WEBSITE DOWN FROM ALMOST 900 PAGES TO ABOUT 600. SO IT WAS A LOT OF WORK TO GET TO THAT POINT, BUT OUR WEBSITE IS A LOT CLEANER BEHIND IT BECAUSE OF IT. AND THIS STRATEGY IS ALREADY PAYING OFF. WHEN WE PULLED THE 2021 NUMBERS AND COMPARE THEM TO THE 2020 AND 2019 NUMBERS, WE SEE THAT OUR PAGES PER SESSION RATES ARE DROPPING AS PEOPLE ARE FINDING THE INFORMATION THAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR MORE QUICKLY. IN WEBSITE DESIGN. THE INDUSTRY STANDARD IS THREE CLICKS TO GET TO THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE JUST UNDER TWO FLAGS NOW. THIS IS GOOD NEWS FOR OUR END USERS BECAUSE IT MEANS THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO GET ON THE WEBSITE LOCATE THE INFORMATION THAT THEY WANT AND GET ON WITH THEIR LIVES WITHOUT HASSLE AND FRUSTRATION OF SITTING THERE TRYING TO DIG IN AND SEARCH FOR IT, SO REALLY KEEPING OUR END USERS IN MIND? AND IT'S WORKING. IN 2020. WE BEGAN THE ACTUAL REDESIGN PROCESS DURING THIS TIME WE WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR VENDOR CIVIC PLUS TO COME UP WITH A WEBSITE THAT WOULD PROVIDE A SIMILAR EXPERIENCE. REGARDLESS OF WHAT PLATFORM YOU WERE ACCESSING THE WEBSITE FROM. AT FIRST, THEY WERE SHOCKED AT THE CHANGES THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE TO THE 2016 DESIGN, BECAUSE, AS I SAID BEFORE, IT WAS GROUNDBREAKING. IT WAS A MODEL THAT THEY USED ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND HAD A LOT OF OTHER GOVERNMENTS. ORGANIZATIONS GO THAT WAY WITH YOUR WEBSITE, SO THEY WERE SHOCKED. BUT AS WE TALKED THROUGH THE ISSUES THAT WE WERE HAVING, AND, UM, EXPLAINED WHY WE WANTED TO CHANGE THINGS UP THEIR DESIGN TEAM GOT ON BOARD AND THEY NOT ONLY GOT ON BOARD, BUT THEY WERE EXCITED ABOUT THE CHALLENGE. THEY CAME UP WITH THE DESIGN. THAT BRIDGES THE GAP BETWEEN THE DESKTOP AND MOBILE VIEW. IT KEEPS LOAD TIMES LOW AND GETS PEOPLE TO THE INFORMATION THEY'RE LOOKING FOR QUICKLY. BEFORE BEFORE WE RELEASED THE WEBSITE. WE CONDUCTED USER TESTING AND FOCUS GROUPS AND THE RESULTS WERE OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVE. ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE USERS WHO TOOK THE TIME TO VISIT THE SITE IN THE MOBILE VIEW. IT WAS A GREAT AFFIRMATION THAT THE RESEARCH TIME AND EFFORT WE PUT INTO THE REDESIGN PAID OFF. OUR VENDOR IS ONCE AGAIN EXCITED ABOUT THE CUTTING EDGE WEBSITE.

WE'VE RELEASED AND THEY'VE TOLD US THAT THEY ARE PLANNING TO USE IT. AS AN EXAMPLE GOING FORWARD

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OH, NEXT PRESENTATION OR ASSUMING NUMBER 22013 PRESENTATION OF BROADBAND

[Presentation on Broadband Assessment Report and Recommendations]

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FOLKS THROUGHOUT THE CITY ARE GETTING HIGH SPEEDS THEIR CURRENT HIGH SPEED SERVICE THROUGH CABLE DSL. THOSE OTHER TYPES OF AGING INFRASTRUCTURE PLATFORMS. SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS I WANT TO STOP THERE AND JUST I'LL ASK. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ASSESSMENT? WE'VE WE'VE TOUCHED BASED ON THE ASSESSMENT. YOU'VE HEARD BEFORE FROM ME BEFORE ON THAT. SO, UM LIKE WE JUST HAD I THINK IT WAS 18 T COME THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS 18 AND I GUESS THEY'RE LAYING DOWN CABLE . DID YOU? DID YOU SIGN UP FOR IT? OR I DON'T THINK WE CAN YET , BUT I'VE GOT IT ON MY RADAR. I MEAN, THAT IS THAT IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? WHAT SAYING WHEN YOU WHEN YOU SAY ONE THIRD OF MCKINNEY COVERAGE, GENERALLY SPEAKING SO AND WITHOUT GETTING OUT OF MY DEPTH THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN DEPLOYMENTS THAT HAPPENED FROM THE PRIVATE COMMUNITY THAT PROVIDES SPEEDS. OVER CABLE OR OVER DSL LINES, NON FIBER LINES BUT CAN STILL GIVE YOU HIGH SPEED GIG INTERNET SO WITHOUT KNOWING THE PARTICULARS OF THE SPECIFIC EXAMPLE YOU'RE GIVING. I WOULDN'T SAY THAT IT IS VIBRATING IS CABLE. UM, BUT THE DIFFERENT PROVIDERS ARE STARTING TO SEE POCKETS OF CUSTOMER BASES AND PUTTING THAT INVESTMENT INTO THE COMMUNITIES. THEY THINK THEY GET A RETURN ON. RIGHT BECAUSE I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CITY.

PEOPLE WERE UPSET BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING THROUGH THEIR LAWNS, BUT THEY'RE REFUSING THE EASEMENT THAT THEY HAVE APPROPRIATE. SO I JUST. BECAUSE THAT'S HOW I SEE IT MORE THAN I SEE MCKINNEY. THE CITY OF MCKINNEY DOING IT IS THAT IS THAT WHAT? WELL, I'LL LET YOU SAY YEAH, YEAH, OKAY, SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE GENERAL ASSESSMENT, THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GOING TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION AND SOME OTHER ONES AS WELL. SO FROM A BROAD PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S FOUR MAJOR RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE REPORT. THE FIRST ONE BEING THE COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE BASIC LARGE SO UM, VALUE ATING THAT NUMBER OF CUTS THAT PERCENTAGE OF COVERAGE AT 30% HR GREEN. THAT'S OUR ENGINEERING CONSULTANT THAT WE BROUGHT ON TO HELP US, ALONG WITH THIS EFFORT RECOMMENDED THAT IN A FUTURE R F Q PROCESS. WE THROW IT OUT THERE KIND OF THE MOON SHOT IF YOU WILL. HEY, TELL US PROVIDERS HOW YOU WOULD DELIVER FIBER TO THE PREMISES, AND THAT'S A SIMPLE SENTENCE TO SAY BASICALLY EVERYWHERE. IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, AND WE'VE HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE KNOCK ON DOORS AND HAVE MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF AS THEY'VE NOTICED MCKINNEY'S TAKING AN INTEREST IN THIS TYPE OF DEPLOYMENT OF INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF COMPANIES OUT THERE. THAT THAT'S THEIR FULL TIME DEAL. THEY DEPLOYED DARK FIBER AND THEN THEY GO OFF AND SELL IT TO THE MORE BRAND. THE MORE NAME RECOGNITION PROVIDERS THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH. SOME PROVIDERS THEMSELVES ARE INTERESTED IN GROWING CITIES LIKE MCKINNEY, AND THEY'LL MAKE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND CAPITAL INVESTMENT THEMSELVES FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, SIMILAR TO THE ANECDOTE THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE FIRST STEP OF RECOMMENDATION IS INCLUDE SOME TYPE OF ASPIRATIONAL COMMENT. ASPIRATIONAL DIRECTION TO THE PROVIDER COMMUNITY IN THE IN THE MARKET COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. MORE SPECIFICALLY CITY FACILITIES AND WHAT'S BEEN MUCH TIME ON THIS BECAUSE I HAVE A COUPLE SLIDES DEDICATED TO HELP BROAD THIS REACHES AND GETS US TO KIND OF THE IN STATE THAT WE NEED FOR CONNECTIVITY. THIS IS STRICTLY ON CITY ASSETS. WE'LL TOUCH BASE ON A CITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PILOT PROJECT I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE. THIS IS IN RELATION TO CALL HIM AT ANY PARKWAY. SO YOU'LL SEE A MAP ABOUT THAT. AND THEN FINALLY, UM , SOME GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY'VE GIVEN US ABOUT INCREASING ADOPTION IF WE THINK THAT THAT'S OUR ROLE. SO NUMBER ONE I TOUCHED BASED ON THIS A LITTLE EARLIER. BUT THE REAL KEY HERE IS THAT LAST BULLET POINT, THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS WILL BE STEP ONE. SO THIS EVENING WHEN THE COUNCIL CONSIDERS THE RESOLUTION, THERE'S ALSO LANGUAGE AND THEY'RE CONSIDERING UM, AUTHORIZATION FOR US TO PUBLISH OUR ADVICE SLASH Q AND THAT'S JUST GIVING US THE ABILITY TO GO OUT. DRAFT IN OUR Q. EVALUATED HAVE THE DIFFERENT PARTIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHO HAVE AN INTEREST EVALUATED AND THEN PUT IT ON THE STREET AND SEE WHAT THE MARKET DELIVERS BACK TO US. NUMBER TWO IS A LITTLE MORE. FAMILIAR WILL FEEL MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE TYPE OF INFORMATION THAT WE GENERALLY SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. OVER THE COURSE OF HR. GREEN'S WORK.

WE MET WITH. THE DEPARTMENTS LISTED HERE IS WELL AS MANY OTHERS SOMEWHERE IN THE ROOM.

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THIS IS RUNNING SIGNIFICANT LENGTHS OF FIBER FROM ORIGIN TRUNK LINES TO GET TO A CITY FACILITY THAT WE ENVISION IS GOING TO NEED TO BE SERVED AT SOME FUTURE POINT. NOW THERE WILL BE, UH, EFFICIENCIES AND COSTS AS IT RELATES TO, UM, PERHAPS WHEN YOU BUILD AN ELEVATED WATER STORAGE TANK, YOU BUDGET IN SOME OF THIS FIBER MONEY. BUT THIS IS STRICTLY THOSE LINE ITEM DETAILS AS IT RELATES TO THE PERCEIVED NEED FOR FIBER RUNS IN THE FUTURE.

PUT IN IN IT IS READY FIBER EXISTING CORRECT. THOSE ARE FACILITIES THAT ALREADY HAVE ACCESS TO FIBER AND YOU SEE FACILITIES IS THAT NEIGHBORHOODS OR IS THAT JUST A CITY ONE CITY ASSETS IT COULD BE AN ELEVATED STORAGE TANK. IT COULD BE A PERLA. IT CAN BE A BUILDING LIKE WHAT WE'RE SMOKING IN. IT'S NOT . IT'S NOT A LINE. IT'S MORE OF A PLACE. IT'S A PLACE CORRECT, AND IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SEE APOLOGIZED. BUT THERE ARE GREEN DOTS THAT ARE AT THE DESTINATION POINT OF THOSE LINES THAT YOU CAN PROBABLY MAKE OUT. UM KIND OF LIKE RIGHT THERE.

THERE'S LITTLE GREEN DOT THAT'S A FACILITY OR A FUTURE FACILITY. THAT IS THE DESTINATION POINT FOR ONE OF THESE PERCEIVED FUTURE FIBER RUNS. SO DO THESE. WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN WITH FIBER, AND WE WANT TO LAY THIS FIBER DOWN. DO THEY HAVE ACCESS TO? OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE CITY. EASEMENTS CORRECT. DO THEY PAY FOR THAT? OR IS THAT JUST WITH THE EXHIBITS SIMILAR TO OTHER UTILITY AGREEMENTS? SO THEY THERE'S A FEAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU WON'T WANT TO USE THIS ONE'S TO A THIS IS WHERE I'M GOING TO GO. HERE'S MY GEOGRAPHIC MAP OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THE WORK WE'RE GOING TO DO. ON OUR END. WE GIVE THEM INFORMATION ABOUT A HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO AVOID. HERE'S WHERE THERE'S CONGESTION IN THE RIGHT AWAY. IF YOU'LL REMEMBER 12 MONTHS AGO OR SO WE DID SOME WORK ON WHERE WERE THE REALLY CONGESTED PIECES OF RIGHT AWAY VERSUS MORE ACCESS THAN THE RIGHT AWAY? UM, SHOUT OUT TO OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT FOR SOME OF THE HELP ON THAT. UM, BUT, YEAH, SHORT INTRODUCE QUESTION. SO LIKE GOING OUT NORTH OF MCKINNEY, THAT'S MUCH EASIER BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE HOUSE AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND ALL THE ROADS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO YOU CAN PUT IT DOWN BEFORE THINGS GET OUT THERE. AND UM AGAIN. THIS IS KIND OF A LONG RANGE EVERYTHING UNDER THE TENT MAP. THE LIKELIHOOD OF. HOW THESE WILL BE DEVELOPED, WILL BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ASSOCIATED SEE IP PROJECT THAT THEY'RE ATTACHED TO. SO, FOR INSTANCE, IF THERE'S AN ELEVATED STORE TO USE YOUR EXAMPLE IF THERE'S AN ELEVATED STORAGE TANK UP NORTH THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BUILD AT SOME POINT BUT IT'S IN 2029. THEN BETWEEN NOW AND 2029. THERE COULD BE DEVELOPMENT THAT DISRUPTS OR THAT DOESN'T DISRUPT , BUT THEN CREATE SOME MORE HAIRY ISSUE OF MAYBE WE WILL BE GOING IN SOMEBODY'S FRONT YARD AND DISRUPTING SOMETHING SO UM, IT'S JUST KIND OF A DO YOU BUILD NOW FOR THEM TO COME OR REBUILD LATER AFTER THE FUNDING HAS BEEN AVAILABLE. SO HOW DO WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COME? THAT IN YOUR. HOW DO WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DELAY DOWN AS MUCH FIBER AND THIS FASTER INTERNET AND WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND STUFF LIKE THAT? SO THAT IS SOMEWHAT REFERENCE TO MY PREVIOUS STATEMENT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE RFP

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GENERALLY SPEAKING, PEOPLE CAN GET THE ACCESS THEY NEED NOW. UM BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE KIND OF A POINT OF NO RETURN. WHERE JUST LIKE SIMILAR AND IT'S A IT'S A POOR METAPHOR.

IT'S A POOR EXAMPLE. BUT JUST LIKE A WATER LINE BEING UNDERSIZED, UM YOU'RE GONNA NEED A BIGGER WATER LINE AT SOME POINT AS THE DEMAND GROWS, SO UM WE HOPE TO GET RESPONSES FROM THE PRIVATE MARKET TO BOTH RECOMMENDATION, ONE THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER. I WOULD LOVE FOR FOLKS TO RESPOND TO RECOMMENDATION TO THE CHEESE PEARS THREE THAT YOU SEE HERE.

UM THE THIRD RECOMMENDATION, AS I MENTIONED IS GOING TO BE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRIVATE PROJECT THAT'S GOT MORE OF THE MM. SPLASH TO IT, SO TO SPEAK. IT'S CONNECTED TO AREAS. I'M JUST GO AHEAD AND GO TO THAT ONE. IT'S CONNECTED TO AREAS THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN MARKETING HEAVILY THROUGH THE EC. IT'S SOMEWHAT ALREADY BEEN DESCRIBED OUT TO THE PRIVATE MARKET THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN SEEING, UM SMART CITIES. APPLICATIONS USED HERE AT BEING A SANDBOX APPROACH. TO DEVELOPMENT FOR NEXT GENERATION TECHNOLOGIES THAT CAN BE TESTED ON THIS AREA. THE LANDING SPOT IS COLIN MACKINNON PARKWAY. MM. IT HAS ADJACENCY. HAS EVERYONE HERE KNOWS TO QUITE A BIT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OCCURRED OVER THE LAST 3 TO 5 YEARS, I WENT AHEAD AND HIGHLIGHTED THE ENTIRE SECTION. SOME OF THAT'S NOT EVEN BUILT YET, BUT THAT'S THE GENERAL LAYOUT OF WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT RED LINE. UMT HOW DO WE GET THEM TO COME? IT'S A POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD HAVE SOMEONE RESPOND TO SOMETHING THAT WE PUT OUT THERE FOR PROPOSAL QUALIFICATIONS, AND THEY SAY, YEAH, WE CAN DO NUMBER ONE. WE CAN DO NUMBER TWO. WE CAN DO NUMBER THREE AND FOUR. OR THEY COULD SAY WE'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF PUTTING FIBER AT EVERY PERSON'S DOOR IN THE CITY MCKINNEY, BUT WE CAN DO A GOOD JOB AND DOING NUMBER THREE.

WHICH IS KIND OF A PILOT PROJECT LIKE THIS OR ANY COMBINATION OF THE FOUR SO STAFF IS GOING TO GO BACK. CREATE THAT PUT THAT ON THE STREET TO GET THE BEST POSSIBLE RESPONSES AND THEN STILL USE A LITTLE DISCRETION ON OKAY, WHO CAN DO THE BEST FOR US ON ANY ONE OF THESE FOUR? THERE'S ALSO AND I MENTIONED IN THIS LAST BULLETS BEAR WITH ME AS I BACK UP A LITTLE BIT. THERE COULD BE THE VERY REAL POSSIBILITY THAT FROM THE WAY THAT WE USE PERCEIVE IT FROM A GENERAL CITY SERVICES PERSPECTIVE IN THE WAY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENTS SEES IT FROM THE CDC. BUSINESS GROWTH PERSPECTIVE IS DIFFERENT. AND CAN. FULLY GO OUT AND DO THEIR OWN PROPOSAL PROCESS. IF UM IF WE DON'T GET ENOUGH RESPONSES THAT ARE RESPONSIVE TO THAT SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION, THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING WE WOULD COME AND RECOMMEND. THE LAST ITEM IS A LITTLE BIT MORE PHILOSOPHICAL OR NEBULOUS. AS I LIKE TO SAY IT'S ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY DECIDE TO DO FROM A CONSUMER HABIT PERSPECTIVE. UM. PAUL AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS AT LENGTH.

WHEN WE WERE REVIEWING THE PRESENTATION IS CURRENTLY SPEED OF ACCESS IS IT'S ELASTIC AND ITS DEMAND. WHAT I NEED IN MY HOUSE MAY NOT BE WHAT PROTEIN ROGERS NEEDS. HIS HOUSE MAY NOT BE WITH JOSHUA NEEDS AT HIS HOUSE. WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT PERCEPTIONS OF HOW FAST WE WANT SOMETHING TO GO. THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT AVAILABLE TO ALL THREE OF US INDEPENDENTLY. UM IF THE COUNCIL SOCHAUX'S. THE RECOMMENDATIONS LAY OUT KIND OF A STEP BY STEP PROCESS TO BOLSTER ADOPTION. THERE ARE. STRATEGIES AVAILABLE OUT THERE FOR AREAS WHERE WE CAN SEE THERE'S THE POTENTIAL FOR PRICING ACCESS TO BE PEOPLE TO BE PRICED OUT OF HIGHER SPEEDS.

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ASKING THE FEDS AND THE STATE FOR MONEY DOESN'T STOP AFTER SHORT RANGE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE ONGOING. UM I WANT TO SKIP THOSE. MIDDLE TOO, BECAUSE THOSE ARE KIND OF YEAH, WE GET IT. THE LAST ONE IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE FOUND AS WE GROW AS THE CITY OF MATURE AS A CITY. THIS WILL BE NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE. IT WILL FAIL. IT WILL GET OLD AND IT WILL NEED TO BE MAINTAINED AND OR REPLACED, UM SURE THERE MAY BE SOME NEW HOT TECHNOLOGY THAT ALLOWS US TO ALL BE CONNECTED EVEN FASTER AND QUICKER AND EVERYTHING IN THE FUTURE, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE FOR NOW, AND IT'S LOOKING LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE THE HORSE THAT WINS. SO, UM I'D JUST LIKE TO SHARE THAT TO MAKE SURE COUNCIL KEEPS IN MIND THAT EVEN IF WE DEPLOY OUT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INFRASTRUCTURE OVER THE NORTH, NEXT 5 10 20 YEARS THERE WILL

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IS THERE'S A LACK OF FIBER ACCESS, WHICH IS WHAT GIVES THE POWER TO THAT SMALL CELL NOTE TO GIVE YOU THE STRONG CELLULAR SPEEDS THAT YOU NEED TO EXPERIENCE THE TYPE OF NEXT GENERATION APPLICATIONS THAT YOU WANT OUT OF YOUR MOBILE DEVICE OR ANY OTHER SMART CITIES DEVICE THAT WILL ALL BE LOOKING TO HAVE THE NEXT 10 YEARS OR SO. I COULD JUST. WANTED TO ADD A COUPLE THINGS TO WHAT TREVOR'S POINTED OUT. I KNOW MICHAEL'S HERE AND THANK YOU, MICHAEL. THEY BOTH BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SOME TIME. THE REASON WE'RE BRINGING THIS TO YOU AND BRING IN THE IDEA OF IMPROVING OUR BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE. IS YOU KNOW, THE REPORT POINTS OUT THE MCKINNEY'S 93RD IN THE STATE, THE 93RD MOST CONNECTED CITY IN TEXAS. UM WE'VE GOT. 27 INTERNET PROVIDERS OF MCKINNEY, 14 OF THOSE OFFERING RESIDENTIAL SERVICE AND THAT'S FINE. BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THE PIPE SIZE, RIGHT. THE BANDWIDTH ITSELF IS LIMITED. AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO MODEL AHEAD AND THAT'S THE COUNCIL'S CHOICE . SUPPOSE YOU'LL LET US KNOW. UM BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE COMPETITIVE AND A DIGITAL ECONOMY IF WE'RE GOING TO BE COMPETITIVE IN AN INTANGIBLE WORLD OF INTANGIBLE BUSINESS WHERE YOU'RE ACTUALLY DEALING WITH DIGITAL THINGS. YOU'RE DEALING WITH IDEAS AND INFORMATION. YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THE PIPE SIZE. YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THE BANDWIDTH. FIBER IS THERE'S NO GETTING AROUND FIBER FIBERS. THE TRUNK LINE THAT CARRIES THEM DOES MOST OF THE WORK AND CARRYING DATA AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO IN THE COMMUNITY. MARKETPLACE. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YES, YOU CAN MUDDLE THROUGH WITH THE MARKETPLACE, BUT WE NEED TO CHANGE THE WAY WE LOOK AT THE COMPETITION. THE WAY WE LOOK AT THE COMPETITION NOW IS WHO'S GOING TO WHO'S GOING TO PUT FIBER IN THE GROUND. THAT'S THE WRONG PLACE, IN MY VIEW, WHERE WE OUGHT TO BE LOOKING AT THE COMPETITION. THE FIBER IS JUST THE INFRASTRUCTURE, GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND COMPETE ON SERVICES. RIGHT GET OUR PROVIDERS AND ALL THE COMPANIES IF WE CAN GET DIGITAL COMPANIES TO COMPETE ON THE LINE OF SERVICES THAT THEY OFFER, MANY OF WHICH WE CAN'T EVEN ENVISION WHAT THEY ARE TODAY. BUT WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GOING TO GROW. WE KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND. GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE TAKING CARE OF THE REST WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF. AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS COME UP WITH A GAME PLAN TO GO TO THE MARKETPLACE AND SAY WHO CAN HELP US? EXPAND THAT TRUNK LINE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT WE CAN CARRY THE DATA LOADS . THEY'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED.

AND IF WE WANT TO BE ATTRACTIVE TO DIGITAL FIRMS, FIRMS ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF DESIGN AND TECHNOLOGY AND ENGINEERING. THEY NEED THAT BROADBAND. THEY NEED THE PIPE SIZE TO BE BIGGER, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS CATALYZED AND CHANGE THE EQUATION FROM COMPETING ON WHO IS GOING TO CUT THE STREET OPEN. WHICH IS EXPENSIVE FOR THEM AND INSTEAD COMPETE IN THE

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR. THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 22. OH TWO ARE 137

[Presentation on 2020 U.S. Census Data and Plans for Redistricting City Council Boundaries]

UHH LUTON MAP. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER PLAN. BUT THERE IS A PROCESS FOR REVIEWING THOSE IF WE GET ONE. BUT ULTIMATELY I THINK I'LL REMIND YOU THAT WE'RE IN NO RUSH , SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY DEADLINES. THIS CAN BE DONE IN A PARTICULAR PROCESS YOUR PACE.

WHEN YOU'RE HAPPY WITH THE MAPS THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO SHOW TO THE PUBLIC, THEN THOSE CAN BE PRODUCED IN A PUBLIC MEETING. BE SET, GUNNER. TAKE IT FROM THERE. GREAT. THANK YOU, MARK. GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL MEMBERS. GOOD TO SEE ALL OF YOU AGAIN. GOOD TO BE HERE. AH! MARK SAID IT JUST RIGHT. WE ARE HERE TODAY TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE PLANS THAT WE CAME UP WITH. AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING THAT THE COUNCIL DRAW DREW, AND THEN I HAVE A NEW MAP TO SHOW YOU THAT HAVE SOME ALTERNATIVES. AND AGAIN. WE'RE NOT PRESENTING ONE OVER THE OTHER HERE. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PRESENT OPTIONS TO THE COUNCIL. GET ANY OTHER FEEDBACK OR CHANGES THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE TO WHERE WE GET A MAP OR A COUPLE OF OPTIONS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO NARROW IT DOWN TO JUST ONE. TO SUBMIT TO THE PUBLIC. GET THOSE OUT THERE, GET THE PUBLIC HEARING SET AND THEN ALSO AT THE PUBLIC HEARING. IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER MAPS THAT COME IN. AT THAT POINT, THE COUNTS WILL BE ABLE TO REVIEW THOSE WILL BE ABLE TO ANALYZE THEM AND GIVE YOU A SUMMARY OF THEM. AND THEN WE CAN START MOVING TOWARDS STARTING TO NARROW DOWN THE CHOICES AND MOVING TOWARDS FINAL ADOPTION. SO I THINK I HAVE DREW. I THINK I SAW DREW ON THE SCREEN THERE.

AND WHAT I THINK WILL DO JUST KIND OF FOR SUCCESSION PURPOSES IS BRING UP THE PLAN C THAT WE DREW TOGETHER AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. YOU'LL RECALL. OUR FIRM INITIALLY DID TO SORT OF EXAMPLE, PLANS THAT WE LABELED A AND B AND ONE OF THE FEATURES THAT WE INCLUDED. OUR BOTH OF OUR PLANS WAS, WE WENT AHEAD AND MOVED THE HISTORIC DISTRICT THERE IN THE CENTER OF TOWN. OUT OF THREE AND INTO ONE, MAKING THE HIGHWAY 75. THERE'S A BOUNDARY. THAT CONSENSUS AT OUR LAST MEETING WITH WAS THAT THAT WAS NOT ACCOUNTS COUNCIL PREFERRED OPTION AND SO IN GOING FROM B AND C, R A AND B TO C WE MOVED THAT HISTORIC AREA BACK INTO THREE. ALSO OUR PLANS HAD THAT TOP PORTION OF ELDORADO MOVED INTO THREE. THE FEEDBACK WE GOT FOR THIS PLAN WAS THAT AT LEAST SOME OF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IN TWO SO WE MADE THAT CHANGE. TO ACCOMMODATE THAT CHANGE. YOU'LL SEE THREE TOOK IN A LITTLE BIT OF TWO AT THE SOUTH. THE WEST CORNER THERE AND THEN TOOK IN A LITTLE BIT OF FOUR IN THE NORTH, MORE NORTHERN AREA. THE OTHER CHANGE WE MADE, WHICH REALLY DOESN'T AFFECT ANY POPULATION, BECAUSE THERE AREN'T MANY PEOPLE THERE IS WE DID TAKE IN A LITTLE PORTION OF WHAT WAS THE NORTH OF ONE JUST THERE AT THE TOP OF THE CITY. AND THAT GOT MOVED OVER TO FOUR. AND THAT'S PRIMARILY FROM MY UNDERSTANDING. AND YOU ALL CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG PARKLAND AND SOME AREA WHERE THERE MAY BE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THERE'S NOT MUCH IN THE WAY OF POPULATION THERE NOW. OH, GREAT. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS THAT PARKLAND AREA I WAS TALKING ABOUT. AND THREW AWAY TO CLEAR IT. YOU CAN'T ANNOTATION AND CLEAR. CLEAR. GOT IT, OKAY? UM. SO THAT WAS THE FEEDBACK WE GOT . UM WE AS A RESULT OF THAT WE SAW A LITTLE BIT OF A REDUCTION IN THE OVERALL MINORITY VOTING AGE POPULATION, AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE COUNCIL'S REQUEST. WAS. WAS THERE A WAY TO KEEP THIS CONFIGURATION AND TRY TO BUMP THAT MINORITY VOTING AGE POPULATION, PARTICULARLY IN

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AND AGAIN. THIS IS NOT. WE'RE NOT ADVOCATING FOR ANY OF THESE WERE JUST TRYING TO PRESENT ALL JUST JUST STATING WHAT I STATED LAST TIME. UNDERSTOOD AND SO, UM , YOU KNOW, I WANT COUNSELING.

RUBELLA GAVE HIS THOUGHTS ON THE MAP, BUT SO WHAT WE HAVE ARE BASICALLY PLAN C AND PLAYING D.

AND WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH WITH BOTH OF THOSE OPTIONS TO PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC WHERE WE CAN MAKE CHANGES TO EITHER OR BOTH OF THEM TO TRY TO GET SOMETHING THAT BETTER REPRESENTS WHAT THE ENTIRE COUNCIL IS THINKING. UM THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOU THE CHANCE TO GIVE ANY INPUT AND MAKE CHANGES YOU WANT, UH OR WE COULD EVEN COME UP WITH ANOTHER OPTION. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TODAY. DID I UNDERSTAND THAT? IN THIS MAP, WHEREAS YOU HAVE BARELY A MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICT. YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE IT BASED ON ELIGIBLE VOTERS, AM I RIGHT OR WRONG ABOUT THAT? THAT'S TRUE. SO WHEN WE LOOK AND THIS IS GOING TO BE TRUE, UM ACROSS ALL OF OUR MAPS. WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT WHEN WE LOOK AT DEMOGRAPHIC BREAKDOWN BECAUSE IT'S REALLY THE METRIC WE HAVE IS VOTING AGE POPULATION. AND WHEN YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING AT WHO IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO TURN OUT TO VOTE TO AFFECT AN EFFECTIVE DISTRICT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER? YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT CITIZENSHIP VOTING AGE POPULATION. THE CENSUS HAS NOT YET RELEASED BASED ON THE 2020 DAD. A SPECIAL TABULATION TO GIVE US THE CITIZENSHIP NUMBERS FOR, UM FURTHER 2020 CENSUS. WHAT WE DO HAVE IS NUMBERS FROM THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEYS UP THROUGH ABOUT 2019. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, YES, WHILE WE CAN GET TO US, VERY SLIGHT MAJORITY MINORITY COMBINED ALL GROUPS, UM , WHEN YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT CITIZENSHIP, YOU JUST CAN'T GET TO A MAJORITY. IT JUST REDUCES THAT NUMBER. OKAY SO THEN IT SEEMS TO ME WITHOUT KNOWING ANY MORE THAN I DO THAN HAVING A MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICT IS WINDOW DRESSING IF THEY IF WE CAN'T GET THE VOTERS IN IT. AGAIN. YOU KNOW IT IS WHAT. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. I MEAN, WELL, LET ME LET ME I'M TRYING TO SAY THIS IN THE PROPER WAY WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, PARTICULARLY FOR THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO PRESERVE A MAJORITY MINORITY. COMBINATION YOU LOOK AT CITIZEN VOTING AGE POPULATION . THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU DON'T YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T STILL CONSIDER TRYING TO PRESERVE VOTING AGE POPULATION MAJORITY.

BUT YES, THE PERTINENT METRIC IS CITIZENSHIP. CITIZEN VOTING AGE PARTY. HOW LONG UNTIL THE U. S CENSUS RELEASES THAT INFORMATION ABOUT THE VOTING AGE. I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE. WE DON'T HAVE AN EXACT DATE ON THAT. BUT I WOULD THINK, MARCH TO APRIL. AND END IT WILL GO AHEAD. THE DIFFERENCE THE DIFFERENCE IN IN WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE VOTING. AGE PERCENTAGE MINORITY BETWEEN PLANS CND. DO YOU HAVE THOSE NUMBERS? I DON'T I CAN GET THOSE FOR THE COUNCIL. IN TERMS OF THE SPECIFIC BREAKDOWNS OF THOSE NUMBERS. IT'S A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL DECREASE WHEN YOU APPLY CITIZENSHIP TO THE VOTING AGE POPULATION NUMBER. 10 OR 15 POINTS. OH, THE SO THE POPULATION. TOTAL BALANCE DEVIATION ON PLAN D IS 5.63. WAS A 10 OR 12 THAT YOU HAD TO GET

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AND DISTRICT THREE NEEDS 5000 NEW PEOPLE AND WHAT C DOES IF YOU'LL GO BACK TO SEE OH, HE HASN'T THOUGH. UM. DISTRICT ONE ULTIMATELY RECEIVES THOSE 12,000 NEW PEOPLE FROM ALL FROM DISTRICT THREE. WHICH MEANS THE DISTRICT THREE, THEN HAS TO TURN AROUND AND GO FIND 17,000 NEW PEOPLE. TO ADD TO ITS ROLES. AND SO DISTRICT THREE ENDS UP WITH A NEW VOTING VOTING AGE. BY VOTING FOR A NEW POPULATION OF ABOUT 35% SO THAT'S 35. COMPLETELY NEW FOR THAT DISTRICT RATHER THAN JUST EXPANDING THEIR. THE 5000 AND THEY NEED UM. THE OTHER THINGS THAT I STRUGGLE WITH ON THIS ONE IS THE WAY THAT FOR US IS SPLIT, UM, KIND OF IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER RIGHT THERE AT 3 80. IT ENDS UP WITH THIS VERY BROKEN DISTRICT. UM THERE AND UH, THE UM, YOU KIND OF ALLUDED.

OH, I CAN DRAW IN MIND. MY HANDS SHAKE TOO MUCH SO RIGHT UP IN THERE JUST A VERY TIGHT UM, THAT KIND OF BREAKS UP. BOB. AN AREA THAT THE THIRD THING WAS BECAUSD GROWTH HERE. ALL OF THAT GROWTH ENDS UP IN DISTRICT ONE. AND SO YOU'VE GOT TO UM, YOU KNOW, CAPTURING A PRETTY LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THAT GROWTH AND AGAIN. UM. YOU KNOW, WITH THE CURRENT MAPS THAT WOULD BE SHARED WITH DISTRICT THREE AND THEN ULTIMATELY. FROM THE VARIATIONS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT , EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE THE CITIZEN VOTING AGE POPULATION. THIS MAP PINS UP WITH ONE OF THE I THINK A IS A TINY LITTLE BIT LOWER. BUT IT ENDS UP WITH THE KIND OF THE LOWEST MINORITY VOTING AGE POPULATION AND DISTRICT ONE. BY COMPARISON, SO THAT'S WHY FOR ME WITH LOOKING AT MATT D. IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THAT. TRIES TO RETAIN AS BEST AS POSSIBLE. THE EXISTING DISTRICTS. ESPECIALLY FOR THREE AND SO THAT ONE GAINS POPULATION. MORE FROM TWO AND THREE GAMES POPULATION MORE FROM FOUR RATHER THAN ONE, GAINING FROM THREE AND THEN THREE HAVEN'T AGAIN FROM FOUR AND TWO. IT ALSO, UM. IT IT IT PROVIDES A PRODUCE. SIZABLE DIFFERENCE IN

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THAT WAS HIM FELT COMING. I'M TALKING ABOUT SURE. YEAH. AND I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY HOW MANY, BUT THERE'S THERE IS OPPORTUNITY FOR QUITE A BIT OF GROWTH IN THERE. THAT MEANS WHAT JUST THAT THE POPULATION THAT WILL GET THAT THERE'S VERY FEW LOTS TO SELL, BUT THERE'S MULTI FAMILY.

UM I JUST DOESN'T REALLY APPLY TO CRD. BUT ONE THING THAT I'VE MENTIONED I MENTIONED THIS TO MARK. AND LOOKING AT THIS, BUT RIGHT NOW I KNOW YOU HAD CONCERNS ABOUT YOU KNOW WHAT THIS DOES TO ELDORADO. IT ALSO DOES IT TO STONEBRIDGE AND KIND OF UM. CREEPING IN AND BREAKING UP STONEBRIDGE A LITTLE BIT MORE AND MM. DR FELTUS AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT HOW WE KIND OF LIKE THAT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. BUT, UM IN MY OPINION, LOOKING AT THESE MAPS, AND IF WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN KIND OF. COMMUNITY COHESION. UM I THINK IT IT LOOKS LIKE A MAP THAT NEEDS A DIFFERENT LONG SET OF REPRESENTATION FROM. DISTRICT MEMBERS IN THAT LARGE MEMBERS.

SO WHETHER WE GO TO LIKE A. SIX DISTRICT MEMBERS RATHER THAN TWO AT LARGE MEMBERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT WAY YOU HOLD ON TO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF COMMUNITY COHESION. I'M SO THAT, LIKE THE ALVARADO IS A VOTING BLOC AND CRAIG RANCH IS ABOUT NOT A VOTING BLOC, BUT COMMUNITY AREA AND CRAIG RANCH AND STONEBRIDGE, CENTRAL MCKENNEY AND NORTH MCKINNEY AND EAST MECHANICS SO THAT YOU HAVE SOME OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD IDENTITIES MAINTAINED A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN WE CAN WITH THIS GROWING POPULATION. IT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS AND WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT. SO. MARK WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SO RIGHT HERE IS WHERE MOST OF THAT GROWTH IS SO THAT WOULD BE IN DISTRICT ONE, SO THAT WOULD BE THE SAME. AS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE UP HERE YOU HAVE 5000. I WAS REFERRING TO YOUR CURRENT DISTRICT, AND IF YOU TAKE THIS AND YOU'VE GOT 5000 UNITS THAT WE HAVE. WE STILL HAVEN'T BUILT YET. IT'S THE SAME THING AS HAVING 2000 HOMES HERE. SO WHAT DOES IT DO THEN? TO THE COUNT, IF YOU SINCE IT'S NOT DEVELOPED RIGHT NOW, PRESIDENT JUST FOR THE COUNT. IF WE TAKE JUST THAT PORTION AND PUT IT BACK IN DISTRICT TWO. OHH DREW. WHY DON'T WE BRING UP THE PROGRAM? WE CAN SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THAT SPECIFIC AREA. ON PLAN. THE DISTRICT ONE IS THE LOW DISTRICT AND SO JUST MENTIONING THAT FROM THE NUMBERS

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I DON'T KNOW ABOUT HOW MUCH THOUGH. WHICH AREA WHERE YOU WERE BRINGING I THINK WE ARE ALMA. OFF BROUGHT OFF OF SRT OR WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT. WE NEED TO LOOK AT PLAN. DE, THOUGH. DREW LOOK AT PLAN B. I REALLY DON'T LIKE. ONE COMING INTO MY DISTRICT LIKE THAT. I JUST DON'T . I DON'T I THINK WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND CREATING THAT YOUNG. ITS ENERGY M. YOU'RE NOT. YOU'RE NOT. THAT'S NOT DOING IT AT ALL. THERE'S NOTHING GREAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO. SO DID YOUR JUST THE LAST LITTLE BLOCK OF PURPLE. WE'RE WONDERING HOW MANY FOLKS ARE IN THERE? CAN YOU TOTAL THAT UP? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 2219 PEOPLE. AND HIS COUNCIL MOVEMENT, BELLER POINTED OUT. ONE IS ALREADY LIGHT SO THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADD SOME POPULATION INTO ONE FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. IF WE END UP DOING THAT.

SO IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES THAT YOU ALL WANT TO TRY TO MAKE ALONG THE LINES OF THIS MAP, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. BUT I THINK IF I'M NOT GOING TO APPROVE. I DON'T LIKE THIS MAP.

JUST WOMEN, AND I THINK YOU KNOW THE NICE THING ABOUT THE EXERCISES. IT DOES KIND OF SHOW US WHERE THE DIFFERING VIEWS ARE . AND SO WE KNOW, SORT OF WHAT? BECAUSE IT INCLUDES OLIVE ELDORADO. IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. WHO MADE EXCLUDES ALL OF ELDORADO IN DISTRICT TWO, AND IT'S JUST NOT GONNA HAPPEN. THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT THIS MEANT THAT I LIKE. THAT I WOULD AGREE WITH. OKAY? YEAH. SEE WORKS. I HAVE A THIRD OF MY POPULATION THAT. WHAT DO YOU MEAN A THIRD.

THE RADIO. I MEAN, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN C AND D IS EITHER. I COME SOUTH AND THE ACROSS 75. OR YOU KNOW, I TAKE AUBURN HILLS. AND YOU KNOW, BOTH OF THEM. BOTH OF THEM HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACTS. DIFFERENT PEOPLE. MHM. WELL I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN COUNCIL AND ROGERS MOUTH, BUT I THINK HE HAS TWO CONCERNS. ONE IS ON THE NORTHERN PART. ELDORADO IS CUT.

AND THEN ON THE SOUTHERN PART, UM YOU KNOW THE PROPERTIES JUST NORTH OF SRT WERE CUT. IS THAT RIGHT? COUNCILMAN ROGERS. THERE'S A BOTH THOSE CONCERNS THERE, RIGHT? OKAY. WITH THIS MAP. IF. IF YOU DIDN'T INCORPORATE UM ELDORADO INTO THREE. AND YOU INCORPORATED

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LET'S. THAT'S THE DIRECTION LET'S PUT ELDORADO BACK INTO TWO, PLEASE.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE REASON I HAD LEFT IT AS THAT BEAM HAPPENS, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT WHAT THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS LOOK LIKE OVER THERE. WHAT? WOULD BE ONCE TO THE WEST. SO WE NEED TO DO IS GIVE THREE. SOME OF THE STUFF UNDER, YOU KNOW, EXPAND ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THREE. TO CUT IN THERE RIGHT NOW. I DON'T THINK SO. THIS PART IS THREE.

BUT WE'LL KNOW IT'S SHE CAN'T. SHE CAN'T TAKE THAT ONE BECAUSE IT WOULD. IT WOULD PUT YOU ON AN ISLAND. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE NOT TAKING THIS. OKAY BUT WE JUST WE JUST MOVED ON TO ROUND TWO. IT MADE IT GREEN. SO WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF TWO WE'RE ON THE WEST SIDE OF TWO NORTHWEST SIDE OF TWO NEEDS TO BECOME PART OF THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THREE IS WHAT I WAS THINKING. YES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT. DREW CAN'T SEE THAT SO. DREAM. GRAB THE BLOCK TO THE WEST OR LEFT OF THAT RIDGE ROAD. YES, YOU GUYS KEEP LEAVING THAT FUNNY. NOT WE'RE GOING TO FIND SOMETHING FOR THREE OR FROM TWO AND THREE RIGHT FROM THERE. MINUTE UP.

GOING THE WRONG WAY. IN THE MIDDLE BLOCK, WHERE THE NUMBER TWO IS ON THE LABEL TO IS YOU WANT TO TAKE SOME OF THAT? THAT AREA IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING WELL , IF YOU LOOK AT THREE, WHICH IS IN RED AS I SEE IT RIGHT NOW EXPANDED TO THE SOUTH TO THE SOUTH ON THE WESTERN SIDE. IT'S THE SAME THING ABOUT LIKE, RIGHT AROUND WITH THE CURSOR IS RIGHT NOW. KEEP THAT, SO I THINK IT'SE PIECE TRUE. NOT DOWN BUT LATERALLY. NO OTHER WAY. THERE YOU GO.

OFTEN, SIR. KEEP GOING. GRAB THAT NEXT SPOT. JUST KEEP TAKING OUT OF THERE UNTIL WE GET A BALANCE AND LET'S SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. OKAY? SO OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD NEED TO CLEAN THAT UP

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I KNOW THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ONE COMING DOWN AND TAKING ALL MY FRONTAGE OF 1 21. IT. FORCED TO MAKE SOPHIE'S CHOICE, THOUGH , WOULD YOU RATHER GIVE UP THE 1 21 ACCESS OR THE ELDORADO? WHAT? WHY WHY AM I HAVE TO JUST POPULATION THAT JUST COMES DOWN TO NUMBERS. IF IT WASN'T IT DOESN'T BUT BUT THE OTHER DISTRICTS HAVE BONES TO PICK WITH THAT. I KNOW YOU DON'T BUT IF YOU IS THERE CAN YOU MAKE A CHOICE BETWEEN THOSE TWO? WHY DO I HAVE TO WHY DON'T WE? WHY DON'T WE TAKE THE PENINSULA AND PLAY AROUND WITH THAT WE CAN, BUT THE ELDORADO THEN SHOULD GO TO THREE. IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT . THAT'S RIGHT BECAUSE ELDORADO GOES BACK, SO I JUST TRIED TO SAY WHAT'S THE HIGHER PRIORITY? THERE HAS TO BE COMPROMISED ON BOTH SIDES. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE THE PENINSULA, I FEEL LIKE ELDORADO HAS TO GO TO THREE. THERE'S NOT YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AN ALL OR NOTHING FOR ONE DISTRICT. WE HAVE TO GET THE NUMBERS BALANCED. TO ME. THE MAP MAKES MORE SENSE THIS WAY. AND SEE. I PERSONALLY LIKE ELDORADO INTO AND I LIKE THE HISTORIC DISTRICT STILL IN THREE I DEFINITELY AGREE. ELDORADO MEANS BETWEEN. SO THEN SOMETHING ELSE HAS TO GIVE IN. THIS MAKES MORE SENSE TO MAKE THAT WORK. I PERSONALLY PREFER THIS AND HAVE ELDORADO STAY INTO IF WE HAVE TO DO THIS TO GET THE NUMBERS, RIGHT? I'M NOT A PERSON LOOKING AT ANYTHING ELSE. IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE OUT THERE, I KNOW WE'VE BEAT THIS HORSE, THOUGH. WELL AGAIN, YOU KNOW, JUST. THREE PURPOSES OF THE EXERCISE.

REMEMBER, WE DON'T HAVE TO GET IT DOWN TO ONE MAP TODAY. IF WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS THAT CAN BE PUT OUT, THEN THAT'S YOU KNOW, SORT OF THE MISSION HERE AND THEN WE CAN TAKE FURTHER FEEDBACK AND AT THAT POINT CAN BE THESE PARTICULAR. I MEAN, AGAIN. I THINK WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS SORT OF WHERE THE PARTICULAR AREAS OF, YOU KNOW, DISAGREEMENT ARE AND SO WE THOSE CAN BE YOU KNOW, ADDRESS AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO THE COUNCIL PUTS FORWARD. AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE HAVE TWO MEMBERS GONE TODAY AS WELL. THE PUBLIC THEN WILL GIVE INPUT ON. ONE OR TWO EVER. MANY CITY COUNCIL MAPS THERE ARE COMMENT ON THE CITIZEN MAPS. AND WHEN ALL OF THAT'S PUT IN THE BASKET. THEY ALL COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR A VOTE. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THEY CAN BE CHANGED BETWEEN NOW ABSOLUTE. SO, UM. YOU KNOW, IT'S C AND THESE SORT OF REFLECT THE TWO DIFFERENT VIEWS THAN THOSE ARE GOOD TO PUT OUT. AND TAKE COMMENT ON UM IF YOU WANT TO TRY TO WORK SOME MORE ON THIS ONE. IF YOU THINK THERE'S SOME WAY TO GET ONE, THAT'S MORE OF AN EMAIL APP.

THAT MIGHT BE WORTH PUTTING OUT REPUBLICANS. WELL, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT NOW, BUT I DON'T I DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO GET ONE. THE FIXES ALL OF THESE ISSUES BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. WE HAVE A MEETING NEXT TUESDAY. DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO DINNER I'VE MET I CAN FIND A WAY TO BE BACK. CAN YOU TAKE THAT ONE AND EXPANDED OUTSIDE NORTH 3 80 SURE. COMING BACK UP. SO YOU SEE THE WHOLE MAP, PLEASE? THINK IT STRIKES ME,

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DOES THE LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE DREW ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THREE MAKE SENSE FROM A. H O A. IN A NEIGHBORHOOD PERSPECTIVE. I DON'T KNOW THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. I DON'T NEITHER, BUT IT KEPT ELDORADO IN DISTRICT TWO. SO JUST SAYING SHOULD THERE BE SOMETHING SHOULD WE JUST ENSURE THAT THOSE LINES ARE WHERE THEY SHOULD BE ON THAT CORNER? BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THOSE I THINK WE WERE. WE WERE GETTING IT BELOW. YES NEIGHBORHOOD THAT NEEDS TO BE EVALUATED. LET'S GO ZOOM IN ON THAT AREA, AND WHEN YOU OVERLAY THE SATELLITE VIEW, SO WE CAN JUST KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT THAT AREA LOOKS LIKE. EVEN AS THE PARK IS ABOUT HALF OF IT. JUST DON'T HAVEN'T BROKEN DOWN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? YES. RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. OBVIOUSLY WE LOOKED AT LITTLE FINGER COMING DOWN THERE AT THE FAR SOUTH END OF YOU KNOW THAT TYPE CARVING OFF ONE HOUSE OFF A WHOLE LINEAR BLOCK. OBVIOUSLY, THAT NEED TO BE CLEANED UP. BUT UM, I DON'T THINK THIS MAP HAS LEGS. AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW THE ONLY LIMITATION IN THE WAY THAT WE DRAW THOSE TO GET THOSE BUNCH OF THE WAY THAT CENSUS BLOCKS ARE LAID OUT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DRAW BY CENSUS. YES SIR. SMALLEST MEASURE, SO THAT'S WHY YOU GET THAT SORT OF STRANGE. THERE'S JUST KIND OF A WEIRD CENSUS BLOCK, OKAY? UM. BUT WHAT WE COULD MAYBE DO. TO USE A LITTLE HEAVY DRINK. CAN YOU CUT OFF HIS THAT BOTTOM PIECE? I GUESS WE CAN'T WITH THE WAY THAT BLOCK.

THAT'S STRANGE. RATHER THAN INCORPORATE THAT PORTION. ON THE BLOCKS. THAT'S WEST OF RIDGE.

COULD YOU INCORPORATE THE PORTION ON THE BLOCK THAT'S EAST OF RIDGE AND NORTH OF I'M RIDGE BOULEVARD. IF YOU JUST LIKE THAT. RATHER THAN RATHER THAN THIS PART TO THE EAST. THAT GETS YOU THE SAME SIMILAR POPULATION MAY BE A BETTER NEIGHBORHOOD 1000 IN THERE AND WE MOVE.

WHAT'S JUST TRY THAT DREW GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT INTO THREE AND THEN LET'S MOVE TO ANOTHER AREA BACK INTO TO SEE WHATEVER WE GET. ALL STREETS HAVE THREE NAMES. BUILT ABOUT THE SAME SAME TIME. RIGHT AT 10. PRETTY CLOSE. I THINK YOU COULD EVEN MOVE. GAME KNOWS BUT OUT AND DO THE STUFF THAT CIRCLE THERE. LIKE IF YOU TOOK EVERYTHING. SOUTH OF EL DORADO AND WEST OF RIDGE OUT OF THE NEWLY HAD A PORTION OF DISTRICT THREE. AND ADDED THAT PORTION THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED UP THERE. OKAY LET'S MAKE SENSE THE AREA. AH! THAT LAST LITTLE BLOCK AND THREE BETWEEN THE ROADS THERE. UP IN THE NORTH. SORRY. I'M NOT BEING VERY ARTICULATE ABOUT IT RIGHT THERE. SO EVERYTHING NORTH AND AVERY. THERE'S A CREEK THAT RUNS THROUGH THERE. THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD DIVIDING LINE. AND THEN TAKE OUT ANYTHING. SOUTH OF ELDORADO, WEST OF RICH.

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SO THAT GETS YOU INTO BALANCE THERE. AND THAT LEAVES ONE LIGHT. WHICH YOU KNOW, WITH GROWTH POTENTIAL. THREE AND FOUR PRETTY CLOSE AND TOO HEAVY. UM, POPULATION CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. BUT. I'M JUST SAYING IT . I KNOW IT'S NOT THE RULES OF THE GAME, BUT TO DOESN'T HAVE THE ROYAL ESTATE TO GROW. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. JUST JUST WITH LET'S HAVE THAT MULTI FAMILY.

UNFORTUNATELY, RIGHT. OKAY, IT'S OKAY. WHICH IS A LITTLE STILL END UP IN TWO ON THIS MAP. YES, YES, YES. I THOUGHT THAT LINE WAS ALMA. THAT'S RIDGE AT THE FAR WESTERN USUALLY MAN ON THAT.

EDGE PLACE. THAT'S. VERY SOUTH WITH NUMBER ONE COMES DOWN 1 21.

WENT TO A LOT OF THAT IS APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT IN IT. NO ALONE. OTHERS WHO THERE'S ONE NEIGHBORHOOD OR THERE'S TOO LOW NEIGHBORHOODS OFF TINA. THAT'S IN THAT CORRIDOR, BUT THE MAJORITY OF IT IS COMMERCIAL AND MULTI FAMILY. IS IT ALL THE MULTI FAMILY AT 75 INTERSECTION AND THEN SOME DOWN THERE. MM. THERE, STACY.

SO DO WE LIKE THIS AS A POTENTIAL THIRD ALTERNATIVE. FOR PUBLIC INPUT WE HAVE, WE WOULD HAVE CD AND E IT WOULD BE YOU CAN YOU DON'T NEED A D. IF THIS IS A OKAY? SO WE COULD MAYBE JUST CALL THIS A REVISED. STILL KEEPING SEE AS AN ALTERNATIVE. I? YEAH, IT'S THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE. FARM PLANT CONCERN. YEAH, I TAKE ALL MY DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL ON THAT.

SO YOU TELL ME WHICH ONES YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE OUT THERE. SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A THERE. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SEE, AND THIS REVISED HIS ALTERNATIVE. OKAY. ANY OTHER CHANGES FOR ME TODAY? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL THANK YOU. LET'S TALK ABOUT WHEN THE COUNCIL WANTS TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE OTHER. HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING THE PUBLIC HEARING. UM WELL, WE CAN WORK WITH STAFF ON WHAT A GOOD DAY TO DO. THAT WOULD BE UM, BUT WHAT WE'LL DO IS YOU KNOW ONCE WE FIND A GOOD DATE THAT WORKS FOR YOU. ALL THAT HAS A GOOD AGENDA FOR IT WILL WORK WITH THE CITY TO GET THESE PUBLISHED ON THE WEBSITE AND, UM YOU KNOW THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WAY, AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT READY FOR YOU WHEN WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THE WAY THAT CHRIST HERE. THE GUIDELINES FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ARE REQUIRE ANY PLANS AND THE ADDITIONAL PLANS ARE GOING TO COME IN FROM THE PUBLIC. IF THERE IS ONE MORE THAT'S COMING IN TO BE TURNED IN BY THAT PUBLIC HEARING, AND SO DEPENDING ON WHAT WE GET, THEN WE MAY END UP HAVING YOU KNOW ANOTHER MEETING TO DISCUSS THOSE BUT AT THIS POINT, WE'LL BE READY TO GO. YOU THINKING MARCH PROTEST. WOULD YOU LIKE TO GET A WRAPPED UP IN MARCH? IF WE CAN FIND. OR ARE WE WANTED TO WAIT TILL THESE NUMBERS? COME OUT? THERE'S NO HURRY IF WE WON'T WAIT TILL THESE CITIZENSHIP, CITIZENSHIP NUMBERS COME OUT AND SEE IF WE JUST BLOWN UP THE WHOLE THING. AND IF WE CAN NEVER EVEN GET THERE AND I DON'T WANT TO DO THINGS THINKING ALL WE'RE DOING ONE THING AND ALSO THE

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT IS COUNCIL LIAISON UPDATES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO. OKAY WE'LL

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