Consider/Discuss/Act on a Preliminary-Final Plat for Dahl/Norris Homestead Addition, Lots 1 and 2, Block A, Located in the ETJ of McKinney, Approximately 2,050 Feet East of County Road 168 and on the South Side of County Road 125

[Consider/Discuss/Act on a Preliminary-Final Plat for Dahl/Norris Homestead Addition, Lots 1 and 2, Block A, Located in the ETJ of McKinney, Approximately 2,050 Feet East of County Road 168 and on the South Side of County Road 125]

RIGHT. NEXT ITEM. UHH CONSIDERATIONS UNDER GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 2 12 220015 PF CONSIDER AN ACT ON THE PRELIMINARY FINAL PLOT FOR DON NORRIS HOMESTEAD EDITION LOTS ONE AND TWO BLOCKADE. LOCATED IN THE DJ MCKINNEY, APPROXIMATELY 20 50 FT EAST OF COUNTY ROAD 1 68 ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF COUNTY ROAD. 1 25. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. JENNIFER ARNOLD, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AS YOU READ. THIS IS A PRELIMINARY FINAL PLATT REQUEST . IT IS IN THE FAR NORTHWEST QUADRANT OF MCKINNEY'S E. T. J. THE TRACTOR IS ABOUT 9.5 ACRES IN SIZE IN THE AFRICAN IS PROPOSING TO SUBDIVIDED INTO TWO LOTS AS A TRACT IN THE E T. J VARIANCES ARE TYPICAL, AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SERIES OF VARIANCES RELATED TO THE PROVISION OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. GIVEN THE PROPOSED PLATZ AND THE POTENTIAL FOR FACILITIES AGREEMENT WITH THE APPLICANT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE PLOT WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS. NO. IN MOTION. OCEAN THAT WE APPROVED THE SECOND. HE'S CAST YOUR VOTE. REGULAR AGENDA. PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS.

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “C1” - Neighborhood Commercial District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to Modify the Development Standards and to Allow Multi-Family and Commercial Uses, Located on the Northwest Corner of Carlisle Street and Virginia Parkway, and Accompanying Ordinance]

PROPORTIONATE AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS REQUIRING INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION BY THE COUNCIL.

210006 Z FOUR CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ACT. AND I REQUEST TERESA ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM C ONE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT PD PLANT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT GENERALLY TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND TO ALLOW MULTI FAMILY COMMERCIAL USE IS LOOKING IN THE NORTHEAST NORTHWEST CORNER OF CARLISLE STREET, VIRGINIA PARKWAY. THANK YOU, MR HARRIGAN. JENNIFER ARNOLD, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND I WANT TO START BY SAYING THERE A NUMBER OF ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT THAT ARE PLANNING AND ZONING RELATED, AND I APOLOGIZE TO SOME OF THEM FEEL A LITTLE BIT CLUNKY. FOLLOWING THE COMPLETION OF THE PACKET.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ACTIVITY ON SEVERAL OF THESE CASES, SO I DO HAVE SOME HANDOUTS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED BY STAFF FOLLOWING THE CREATION OF THE PACKET. I PROMISED TO TRY AND WALK YOU THROUGH AS QUICKLY AND EASILY AS I CAN. BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

SO AS YOU READ WITH THIS ITEM REQUEST IS TO REASON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM ITS CURRENT DINING OF C ONE. NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT GENERALLY TO ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL AND MULTI FAMILY USES. THE TRACT ITSELF IS AT THE NORTHEAST

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CORNER OF VIRGINIA AND CARLISLE JUST WEST OF US, 75. ABOUT FIVE ACRES IN SIZE AND THE PROPERTY DEPTH IS ABOUT 550 FT STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST WITH THE APPLICANT AND WHILE WE HAVE NO MAJOR OPPOSITION TO INTRODUCING RESIDENTIAL USES ONTO THIS TRACT WE DO HAVE CONCERNS REGARDING THE HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED MULTI FAMILY USES AND THE DENSITY. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO INCLUDE FOUR STORY MULTI FAMILY AT A DENSITY OF 34 UNITS TO THE ACRE ON THE ME. ON THE BACK PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. THE CASE WAS CONSIDERED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

AT THEIR LAST MEETING, THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ITEM AND A VOTE OF FIVE TO. THEY ALSO NOTED CONCERNS WITH THE BUILDING HEIGHT. AND SO WITH THAT I DO WANT TO MAKE NOTE THAT FOLLOWING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AND PRIOR TO TONIGHT'S COUNCIL MEETING AT THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD BE AMENABLE TO REDUCING THE BUILDING HEIGHTS PROPOSED FOR MULTI FAMILY FROM FOUR STORIES TO THREE STORIES. BUT WITH THAT REQUEST, THEY WOULD BE SEEKING TO REMOVE THE COMMERCIAL ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF ABORIGINAL PARKWAY I HAVE WITH ME FROM THE APPLICANTS UPDATED DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS TO THAT EFFECT, BE HAPPY TO HAND THAT OUT TO THE COUNCIL, ALSO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. AS IT STANDS WITH THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU STAFF IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST, GIVEN THE PROPOSED BUILDING HEIGHTS OF FOUR STORIES, ALL STAYING FOR ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE COMMERCIAL ALONG VIRGINIA PARKWAY, AND THE REDUCTION TO THREE STORIES ARE OBVIOUSLY OUR CONCERNS ARE MINIMIZED FROM A BUILDING HEIGHT STANDPOINT. BUT WE STAND AT THE COUNCIL'S READY REGARDING THE COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE ALONG VIRGINIA. JENNIFER DOES THE IS THE NUMBER OF UNITS PROPOSED WITH THAT CHANGE IF IT WENT TO THREE STORIES, SO WITH THE MODIFIED REQUEST YOU GIVE THIS TO YOU, MR HEATHER. WITH THE MODIFIED REQUEST, THE DENSITY WOULD REDUCE IT WOULD BE CAPPED AT 120 UNITS TOTAL FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE TRACT. ATTRACTING IN ITSELF IS FIVE ACRES, WHICH WOULD BE POTENTIALLY INTRODUCING MULTI FAMILY ON THAT FULL FIVE ACRES.

CAPTAIN 120 UNITS SO THAT THE UNIT THERE ON INCREASING THE NUMBER OF UNITS. FROM WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY TOOK OUT. IT'S NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, BUT IT'S SPREAD OUT NOW AND TO INCLUDE THAT FRONTAGE ALONG VIRGINIA SO THEY'RE ABLE TO REDUCE THE BUILDING TYPES AND STILL KEEP THAT HEAD. THE QUESTIONS STANDS HERE GREATER. THIS WAS INCIDENT. STONEBRIDGE RIGHT? NO, NO SLAUGHTER. OKAY, ONE OF THEM. THIS IS JUST WEST OF 75. THIS IS REVOLUTION. OKAY, OKAY, MR. SO PROPERTIES TO THE EAST ARE ALREADY DEVELOPED AS LOW INTENSITY, MULTI FAMILY AND THERE'S A CHURCH TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY. AND IN THE CHURCH TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY. SO THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER AN INFILL SITE. AND SO WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT WE MAY NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBLE AND SOME OF THOSE STANDARDS AGAIN KNOWING IT'S MID BLOCK. AND IT'S A FIVE ACRE TRACK. WE DO FEEL AS A STAFF THAT REALIZING COMMERCIAL POTENTIAL ON THE ENTIRE FIVE ACRES MAYBE NOT OVERLY VIABLE, AND WHICH IS WHY WE ARE NOT UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE NOTION OF RESIDENTIAL ON THE TRACT. AGAIN OUR RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL AS IT STOOD TONIGHT WAS BASED ON THAT BUILDING HEIGHT. OVER THE TO THE WEST IS THAT ALL BELONG TO THE CHURCH? UM I'M NOT LET ME LOOK HERE, NOT CERTAIN.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS OWNED BY OUR SAVIOR LUTHERAN CHURCH. BUT IT'S. DEVELOPED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN THAT, BUT IT IS LOOKED TO BE THAT IT IS OWNED BY THE CHURCH.

THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. NOT THE APPLICANT. I REMEMBER IS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ON BOB BRODER 1700 RED BUD SUITE 300 MCKINNEY. ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. MS ARNOLD HAS GIVEN YOU A VERY COMPLETE IF DESCRIPTION OF THE PROPOSAL THAT WE ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED WHICH WAS TO HAVE ABOUT 1.31 POINT FOUR ACRES ALONG THE FRONTAGE. IN A. COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION.

WE'RE BASICALLY IN THE PD ADOPTED THE C TWO USES A BALANCE . WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO HIGH DENSITY, MULTI FAMILY, THEY'RE MY CLIENT'S NEEDS TO ACHIEVE 120 UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY IN ORDER

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FOR IT TO BE A VIABLE SELF SUSTAINING PROPERTY. AS YOU KNOW , THERE'S OVERHEAD INVOLVED WITH MANAGING MULTI FAMILY KEEPING IT IN PROPER SHAPE AND EVERYTHING. AND THIS IS THE 120 UNITS SEEMS TO BE THE LOWEST NUMBER THAT WE COULD DO AND STILL ACHIEVE THAT KIND OF LONG TERM DESIRE. SO WHEN WE HAVE WE TOOK THE RETAIL OFF THE FRONT LEFT US ENOUGH LAND. THAT WE HAD TO GO FOUR STORIES IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE 120 UNITS. WE DIDN'T SPECIFY IN OUR APPLICATION AT 120 WAS THE MAX.

BUT WHEN YOU DO THE MATH DID THE MATH. THAT'S WHERE YOU CAME OUT. AFTER HEARING COMMENTS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION DURING THEIR VOTE. WE AS MISS ARNOLD SAID. WE VISITED AND MY CLIENT DIDN'T TEST FIT ON THE ENTIRE FIVE ACRES. WE FOUND THAT WE COULD GET 120 UNITS ON FIVE ACRES. AND CAP TO HIDE THAT THREE STORIES. 43 FT. SO WE ARE HAPPY TO GO EITHER OUT QUITE CANDIDLY.

PERSONALLY, I THINK DOING A THREE STORY MULTI FAMILY. ON THE ENTIRE FIVE ACRES WOULD BE A BETTER PRODUCT. SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS? I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THE ALTERNATIVE AND NOT HAVING RETAIL JUST HAVING MULTI FAMILY WHAT IS THE ZONING ALLOW? HOT WISE. WHEN THE C ONE IS AT 45 FT. YES, OKAY. AND AS YOU AS YOU'RE FAMILIAR, MR FRANKLIN.

MOST OF THE MULTI FAMILY CASES THAT HAVE COME THROUGH THE CITY IN THE LAST THREE YEARS ANYWAY THAT I'M AWARE OF OUR THREE STORIES JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE MARKET IS DICTATING. DURING AFFORDABILITY ASPECT TO THIS PROJECT. THERE IS A COUNCILMAN PHILLIPS NOW THAT'S NOT I DIDN'T BRING IT UP BECAUSE I WOULDN'T MAKE A ZONING DECISION NECESSARILY BASED SOLELY ON THEIR BUT YES, THIS IS THIS IS WHAT I THINK IS THE BEGINNING OF WHERE I HOPE THE COUNCIL WILL GO AND THAT IS A GOOD PORTION OF THE NUMBER OF UNITS HERE WILL BE IN A. REDUCED IN AND THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PRICING CONTEXT AND WHAT PERCENTAGE THAT IS. 70 70. AND I'LL GO AND TELL YOU, MR ROEDER THAT DURING ONE OF OUR WORK SESSIONS, I MADE A PLEA WITH THE COUNCIL THAT ANY MULTI FAMILY THAT COMES BEFORE I SHOULD HAVE SOME FORM. OF AFFORDABILITY IN SOME PERCENTAGE SUGGESTED 20% AND I'M LETTING YOU KNOW THAT OKAY? SHE COME BACK IN FRONT OF US IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, SO I'LL BID MYSELF ON THAT 1 70. I'M NOT SURE THAT YOUR OWNER DID NOT VIGEE ON THAT ONE, TOO. THANK YOU APPRECIATE IT. THE QUESTIONS, OKAY. THANKS SIR. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE ENTERTAIN A MOTION LIKE EMOTIONAL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THAT ALL APPEAR MUCH. WELL. I THINK WE NEED TO DISCUSS THE THREE STORIES PART AGAIN JUST CLOSED. JUST CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. I DIDN'T MEAN TO TALK OVER SECOND. THAT MOTION, THOUGH, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MHM. ALRIGHT, DISCUSSION. I'M A YES, SIR. I PREFER THAT WE GO FOR STORIES AND KEEPS THE COMMERCIAL ALONG THE VIRGINIA CORRIDOR. IF YOU DRIVE FROM 75 OUT WEST, THERE ARE NO APARTMENTS OTHER THAN THE ONE THAT IS ADJACENT TO THIS THAT I BELIEVE HAS BEEN THERE SINCE THE SEVENTIES. OR VERY, VERY EARLY EIGHTIES. I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THAT. UM. COMPLEX BEING FRONTED ON VIRGINIA AS IT IS, I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE COMMERCIAL UPFRONT AND GO TO FOUR STORIES TO KEEP SOME KIND OF BUFFER AND TO STAY IN LINE WITH THE MAJORITY OF VIRGINIA ALONG THAT STRETCH BETWEEN HARDEN AND 75, THAT IS ALL COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE ALONG VIRGINIA. THERE SO MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO KEEP IT AT COMMERCIAL AND GO TO FOUR STORIES BECAUSE I DON'T SEE FOUR STORIES AS BEING OFFENSIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE CHURCH NEXT DOOR TO IT. CHURCH TO THE NORTH OF IT IN THE SCHOOL TO THE NORTH OF THAT. I COME FROM THE DIFFERENT THE OTHER POINT OF VIEW WHERE I ACTUALLY LIKE TO SEE THREE STORY. I THINK IT'S BETTER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BECAUSE IF THE RETAIL WERE BIGGER THEN MAYBE, BUT THAT THAT PROPERTY HAS BEEN SITTING THERE 20 YEARS. HE'S IN NOTHING HAPPENING. AND SO, UM, I MEAN

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THE RETAIL IS ONLY 1.3 ACRES. I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH IT? IT'S KIND OF LIKE THAT. THAT PROPERTY THAT WE HAD OVER ON RIDGE ROAD AND MCKINNEY. MCKINNEY RANCH PARKWAY. THAT SHE JUST DIDN'T WANT. IT WASN'T BIG ENOUGH TO HAVE A STARBUCKS OR YOU KNOW ANYTHING ELSE THAN WHAT WAS THERE. AND THIS IS HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS ONE. SO I'D PREFER LIKE TO KNOCK IT DOWN TO THREE STORY AND ELIMINATE THE RETAIL. I'LL GO IN BETWEEN YOU TWO. I DON'T MIND EITHER. ONE OF THE PROPOSALS, I THINK RETAILS A TOUGH SITE AND THE MID BLOCK THERE. THINK IF YOU IF YOU REQUIRE THE RETAIL UPFRONT, YOU MAY END UP WITH A VACANT PROPERTY THERE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, SO I THINK YOU KNOW, FROM A MARKET STANDPOINT, I'D BE OKAY WITH EITHER OPTION.

JENNIFER, COULD YOU GIVE US. THE RETAIL THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED THERE. OBVIOUSLY. YOU CAN ONLY SPEAK TO WHAT THE ZONING WOULD ALLOW, VERSUS THE PRACTICALITY NECESSARILY. SURE, SO WITH THE C ONE ZONING DESIGNATION ALONG THAT FRONTAGE, YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL FOR CLINIC. DAYCARE WOULD REQUIRE AN S. U P UM HMM. SCHOOL AH, IT'S VERY C ONE IS QUITE LIMITED BUSINESS OFFICE. UM. COMMERCIAL INDOOR ENTERTAINMENT WOULD REQUIRE AN S U P YOU COULD GET A SMALL GYM OR EXERCISE STUDIO OR DANCE STUDIO OF SOME SORT. YOU COULD GET A PUBLIC PARK OR PLAYGROUND. RECREATION CENTER. GET DOWN HERE TO RETAIL. LET'S SEE HERE. DON'T LET SHOP AND NAILS PERSONAL SERVICE BEAUTY SHOP, BARBERSHOP INDOOR RESTAURANT. UM AND OFFICE BUILDING OFFICE USES. YOU COULD GET ARROGANT PERSONAL SERVICE. YOU COULD GET A DOGGY DAY CARE CLINIC WITHOUT OUTDOOR RUNS. SMALLER SCALE COMMERCIAL, SMALLER SCALE OFFICE AND RETAIL.

WOULD BE PERMITTED TO BE VERY SIMILAR TO EVERYTHING THAT'S ALONG THAT CORRIDOR. CORRECT WOULD ARGUE. YES THAT'S CORRECT . THANK YOU, AND THEY'RE NOT A LOT OF VACANCIES RIGHT NOW ALONG THAT QUARTER, RIGHT? IN TERMS OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY BETWEEN 75 JORDAN'S I CAN, AND I CAN ONLY TELL YOU MY FIELD FROM WHEN I DRIVE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I DON'TY THAT THEY'RE VERY WELL ESTABLISHED. YOU'VE GOT SOME TURNOVER THAT I'M SURE OCCURS OVER TIME. BUT FOR THE MOST PART , MOST OF THOSE BUSINESSES AND BUILDINGS HAVE TENANTS IN THEM. AFTER THE UNDER, I WOULD EVERY DAY OR OFFICE IN THAT AREA, BUT THERE ARE NO VACANCIES. THERE YOU GO. THE COMMENTS. UM HMM.

I'M OF THE MIND THAT THE THREE STORIES A BETTER FIT AND NOT HAVING THE FOUR STORIES AND BRINGING THAT IN. I STARTED GOING TO CHURCH, SAINT GABRIEL WHEN I MOVED HERE IN 1996, AND WE MET AT SLAUGHTER ELEMENTARY AND YOU KNOW, SO MY WHOLE TIME IN MCKINNEY 26 YEARS THAT THING'S BEEN VACANT AND IT'S A I THINK. IF RETAIL WERE GETTABLE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GOTTEN.

THAT'S MY FEELING. I'M NOT AN EXPERT, THOUGH, BUT I HAVE LESSER OF APPETITE FOR THE FOUR STORIES, BUT WE CERTAINLY DO NEED THE WORKFORCE HOUSING HERE . WE NEED ALL HOUSING HERE. ALL OF IT. UM, BASED ON THE DEMAND AND SO. FROM A STANDPOINT OF WORKFORCE HOUSING. THIS ISN'T A BAD PLACE TO BE. THERE'S NO ROOFTOPS RIGHT AROUND IT. IT'S VERY ACCESSIBLE TO HIGHWAY 75.

SO I PREFER IT. IS THE RE STORY BUT I WON'T DIE THAT HILL IF THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WANTS FOR AND I'M THINKING ALONG THE SAME LINES AS PATRICK AS WELL. I DO APPRECIATE THAT. HAVING THE COMMERCIAL ON THE FRONTAGE DOES TO SOME DEGREE MAKE IT LESS LOOMING AS IT'S SITTING ON VIRGINIA. SO HAVING THAT BIT OF A SETBACK, I THINK IS AN ADVANTAGE BEFORE STORIES IS QUITE QUITE HIGH, SO I AM ALSO OF THE MINDSET THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO KEEP IT THREE STORIES JUST TO KEEP IT IN LINE WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. AND I WOULD CERTAINLY SAY THAT JUST BECAUSE OF PROPERTY HASN'T DEVELOPED IN 30 YEARS. IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE TO CHANGE THE EXISTING FEEL AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT'S A COMMERCIAL ZONE UP AND DOWN VIRGINIA BETWEEN HARDEN AND 75. 99 EXCEPT FOR THE APARTMENT BUILDING IN THE 19 SEVENTIES. EVERYTHING ELSE ON THAT SECTION OF ROADWAY. IS COMMERCIAL THAT OFFERED TO MAKE IT COMMERCIAL ON THE FRONTAGE AND GIVE IT A

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BUFFER BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AREA AND THE APARTMENTS BEHIND IT. YOU'RE NOT EVEN GONNA NOTICE FOUR STORIES BEHIND THAT. I DO LIKE THE FACT THAT IT'S SET BETWEEN EXISTING APARTMENTS IN A CHURCH, SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S YOU KNOW, APARTMENT IN COMMERCIAL AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A APARTMENT COMPLEX THERE . UM I THINK IT ACTUALLY FITS FOR THAT LITTLE STRIP. RIGHT ON THAT BLOCK. WELL, THERE'S ACTUALLY THREE CHURCHES THERE. WENT TO THE SOUTH WENT TO THE WEST AND ONE TO THE NORTH. BOB, COULD YOU GIVE THEM BACK UP FOR A SECOND? WHAT'S THE DEPTH IF IT WAS, IF IT WAS TO REMAIN IF WE KEPT THE COMMERCIAL? WHAT'S THE DEPTH? WE KNOW THE DEPTH OF THAT OF THE COMMERCIAL. IT IS PROBABLY AROUND 200 AS YOU SEE FROM THERE. AS YOU SAW THERE WAS A LEG DOWN THERE, PROBABLY 2 50. IT'S A MARGINAL DEPTH. ONE THING I DID WANT FAILED TO SAY WHEN I WAS UP HERE TO TELL YOU IF WE DID ALL MULTI FAMILY ON THIS TRACK, WE WOULD HONOR THE EXISTING SETBACKS. THE STREET TREES, THE WALL AND ALL THOSE THINGS WERE NOT SEEKING TO MODIFY ANY OF THAT ALONG VIRGINIA. SO WHILE HE WOULDN'T HAVE A PARKING LOT IN A SMALL RETAIL BUILDING BASICALLY WOULD HAVE YOUR TYPICAL STREET TREES. 30 FT. ABOVE HER. LANDSCAPE BUFFER, YOU KNOW, AND IN THE WALL IN THE FENCE, AND I HEAR WHAT COUNCILMAN PHILLIPS IS SAYING AND I. I AGREE UP UNTIL THE POINT THAT I LOOK AT A 83 FT DEPTH ON ONE SIDE AND 1 47 ON THE OTHER AND KNOWING BEING A BUILDER AND DEVELOPER THAT, YOU KNOW. I MEAN, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TOUCH THAT. DEPTH WITH ANY ANY KIND OF DESIRABLE OR I SHOULDN'T SAY IT THAT WAY. IT WOULD NOT BE CONDUCIVE TO MOST COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO WE COULD DROP IT BACK AND MAKE IT 200 FT AND GO UP TO SIX DOORS. BECAUSE AT A DESIRED OPTION, THERE ARE ALWAYS ALTERNATIVES.

NO, THAT'S NOT THE DESIRED OPTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. IS THERE EMOTION? I WILL MOVE THAT WE, UM WE APPROVED THIS AS A THREE STORY WITHOUT THE COMMERCIAL. OUR SECOND. IS CASTRO VOTES. MOTION PASSES. NEXT ITEM. 210129 Z THREE CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING TO

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to allow for Single Family Residential and Commercial Uses and to Modify the Development Standards, Located Approximately 265 Feet North of Plateau Drive and on the East Side of State Highway 5 (McDonald Street), and Accompanying Ordinance]

CONSIDER AND ACT ON A REQUEST TO REASON. SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT GENERALLY TO ALLOW THE SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES. AND TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 265 FT.

NORTH OF PLATEAU DRIVE ON THE EAST SIDE OF STATE HIGHWAY FIVE. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. AS YOU READ. THIS IS A REQUEST TO REASON ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM ITS CURRENT PD ZONING FROM 2000 AND FIVE TO A NEW PD. THE TRACT ITSELF IS ABOUT 18 ACRES IN SIZE, AND IT'S ON THE SOUTHERN STRETCH OF STATE HIGHWAY FIVE. HERE IN MCKINNEY, IT'S JUST SOUTH OF THE TEXT CONTRACTOR'S YARD. THE MOBILE HOME PARK AND THE EXISTING BATCH PLANTS ON HIGHWAY FIVE. THE CURRENT DINING ON THE PROPERTY IS FROM 2000 AND FIVE AND IT ALLOWS FOR A MIX OF OFFICE COMMERCIAL IN LINE INDUSTRIAL USES. THE AFRICAN IS PROPOSING TO REASON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY PD TO ALLOW FOR A MIX OF COMMERCIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEX RESIDENTIAL USES. SO AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE ZONING EXHIBIT UP HERE. THE AFRICAN IS PROPOSING TO MAINTAIN APPROXIMATELY THREE ACRES ON TRACK TO A ALONG THE HIGHWAY FIVE FRONTAGE TO ALLOW FOR OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL. DEVELOPMENT AND ALONG TRACK B, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT COLOR HERE.

A LONG TRACK B, WHICH DOES THE BACK HALF OF THE PROPERTY. IF YOU WILL FROM HIGHWAY FIVE, THE AFRICAN IS PROPOSING TO ALLOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED AND DUPLEX RESIDENTIAL USES. STAFF IS EVALUATED THE REZONING REQUEST AGAINST THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE PROPOSAL FROM THE APPLICANT. UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE NOT ABLE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF IT FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. ONE THIS PROPERTY ON THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN IS DESIGNATED FOR PROFESSIONAL CENTER, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR OFFICE STYLE USES ALONG THIS TRACT, GIVEN RECENT ACTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL AND RECENT YEARS TO TRY AND MOVE THIS AREA CLOSER TO ALIGNMENT WITH THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND COMMERCIAL POTENTIAL. STAFF DOES

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FEEL AS THOUGH THE REQUEST TO MOVE AWAY FROM PROFESSIONAL CENTER AND INTRODUCED RESIDENTIAL ON A LARGE PORTION OF THIS TRACT IS NOT ADVANTAGEOUS, WERE ALSO CONCERNED THAT WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS SURROUNDING THIS TRACK. THE INTRODUCTION OF THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE IN THIS LOCATION. WE DO HAVE A SIMILAR NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE NORTHERN STRETCH OF STATE HIGHWAY FIVE WHERE IT IS A SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD SURROUNDED BY PREDOMINANTLY COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES. OVER THE YEARS WE HAVE EXPERIENCED AND HEARD OF COMPLAINTS. AND ISSUES WITH THAT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD FEELING ISOLATED CONCERNS OVER CITY SERVICES, PUBLIC SERVICES, PARKS AND THINGS OF THE LIKE. WE ARE CONCERNED THAT INTRODUCING SINGLE FAMILY HERE MAY YIELD THE SAME TYPE OF CONCERNS FROM THIS NEW NEIGHBORHOOD. IN ADDITION TO THE LOCATION OF THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON THIS TRACK , WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED WITH THE REDUCED STANDARDS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED FOR SINGLE FAMILY. UH AS PROPOSED IN THE PD. MANY OF THE STANDARDS INCLUDED FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD OR URBAN IN NATURE. AND THEY ARE DRASTICALLY REDUCED FROM WHAT A TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD PROVIDE FOR ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR URBAN SINGLE FAMILY STYLE DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER OUR VIEW AS A STAFF IS THAT THIS AREA IS NOT INHERENTLY URBAN. SO TO INTRODUCE THOSE REDUCED STANDARDS WOULD BE OUT OF PLACE IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION. WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THE TRACT IS SOMEWHAT LONG AND NARROW, AND WE HAVE CONCERNS THAT THERE MAY BE DIFFICULTIES TO DEVELOPING THIS TRACK FOR SINGLE FAMILY IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. THINGS SUCH AS TWO POINTS OF ACCESS FOR FIRE PROTECTION. THE ABILITY TO INTRODUCE A STREET NETWORK THAT MEETS THE STREET DESIGN MANUAL, FOUR STREET LINKS AND TANGENTS. I MEAN THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE NECESSARY LANDSCAPING WHILE SITE DESIGN IS NOT INHERENTLY A ZONING ISSUE, GIVEN THE NUMBER OF CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE WITH THIS PARTICULAR SITE, WE DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT AN ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION WITH THE ZONING IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. SO THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION DID CONSIDER THE REZONING REQUEST AT THEIR LAST MEETING. THEY ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND A VOTE OF FIVE TO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU HAVE FOR ME, AND I KNOW WHERE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. THE APPLICANT COME UP. MR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MARTIN SANCHEZ, 2000, NORTH MCDONALD MCKINNEY, TEXAS 75071. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS EVENING, AND FOR CONSIDERING THIS ITEM, I THINK MISS ARNOLD DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING KIND OF THE CONTEXT. WE YOU KNOW, AGREE ON SO MUCH TOGETHER AND THEN SOMETIMES HAVE DIFFERENT CONCLUSIONS. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE WHICH FACTUALLY. STAFF SEES IT ONE WAY AND AGAIN USING THOSE SAME FACTS. WE JUST HAD A DIFFERENT CONCLUSION. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CONTEXT OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY LET ME JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME MORE GRANULAR INFORMATION IF I COULD.

WE HAVE A TEXT OFF FACILITY. HERE IT IS. TEXT DOT GOES, THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE THERE FOREVER BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE TO SELL THEIR LAND AND THEN GO BUY ANOTHER PIECE OF LAND THAT'S GOING TO COST THEM MORE MONEY. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE GOT THE ASSORTED, UH ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES THERE GRADUATED CARE, ETCETERA. AND THOSE ARE. FAIRLY GOOD DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE COME ON OVER THE LAST 10 15 YEARS, AND IT REALLY KIND OF CREATED FOOT PRINTING RESIDENTIAL IS ALREADY THERE. WE'VE GOT MORE RESIDENTIAL IN THIS AREA. I'LL BE IN MULTI FAMILY. SO THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT EXISTS. THE CHALLENGE WITH THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY IS EXACTLY THAT THE GEOMETRY. IF EVERY SITE WAS EXACTLY RECTANGLE THAT SLOPE 2% FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER, AND THE DIMENSIONS ALL WORKED OUT. WE WOULDN'T HAVE THESE CHALLENGES, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT WE DON'T SITES ARE ODDLY SHAPED LIKE THIS. AND WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, TRY TO ASCERTAIN. SO WHAT DO YOU DO WITH. IN REALITY WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE MATRIX, WHAT DOES THIS PROPERTY LEND ITSELF? THE FIRST ONE THAT COMES TO MIND TO US REALLY WAS, WELL, TWO MORE PERFECT MULTI FAMILY SITE. BUT THAT'S REALLY NOT WHAT WE WERE FOCUSED ON IT. SO WE SAID, YEAH, MAYBE MULTI FAMILY IS NOT REALLY WHAT WE WANT TO DO HERE. THEN YOU LOOK AT THEM ALL OTHER OPTIONS GIVEN THE GEOMETRY OF THE SITE. AND YOU LOOK AT THINGS LIKE, WELL, IT'S A STORAGE FACILITY, AND MAYBE IT'S AN RV STORAGE AND BOAT STORAGE FACILITY AS WELL. SEE ONE ON HIGHWAY FIVE JUST NEARBY. IT'S BECAUSE OF THE GEOMETRY. BUT THEN AGAIN, YOU SAY, IS THAT REALLY THE HIGHEST INVESTORS AND

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SAYS, WE KIND OF REALLY STUDIED IT AND GOT REALLY GRANULAR INTO THE ANALYSIS OF WHAT TO DO WITH THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY. REALLY WE FOCUSED IN ON THE GRADUATED CARE IN THIS AREA. I'LL TELL YOU THE STORY ACTO PEONS BECAUSE VERY PERSONAD AWAY A COUPLE YEARS AGO, HE PASSED AWAY IN A NURSING FACILITY. HE HAD ALZHEIMER'S. AND FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS OF HIS LIFE, MY MOM WENT AND VISITED HIM EVERY DAY. SHE WAS THERE AT THE NURSING FACILITY FOR ABOUT EIGHT HOURS A DAY. AH! ULTIMATELY IT WAS A SITUATION VERY MUCH LIKE THIS. ULTIMATELY WE ENDED UP BUYING A HOUSE FOR MY MOM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY FATHER'S FACILITY SO THAT SHE COULD WALK ACROSS THE STREET. AND GO VISIT MY DAD EVERY DAY AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE YOU KNOW, DRIVING AROUND TOWN, AND SHE'S AN OLDER LADY, AND IT BECAME CUMBERSOME. SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS SIDE, WE LOOKED AT THE ASSISTANT LIVING FACILITIES IN THE AREA THAT GRADUATED CARE TO US. IT WAS A THIS KIND OF MAKES SENSE. IT'S PART OF THAT HOUSING STOCK. THAT'S THE FULL SPECTRUM OF FULL GAMUT IF YOU WOULD OF WHAT MAKES A SUCCESSFUL COMMUNITY VIBRANT AND SUSTAINABLE. IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING. AND REALLY, THAT'S WHY WE STARTED FOCUSING ON IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL PERSPECTIVE. ORIGINAL THOUGHTS WERE, YOU KNOW, RENTAL COMMUNITY THAT SEEMS TO BE THE BIG PUSH RIGHT NOW TO DEAL WITH ODD PIECES LIKE THIS, BUT WE REALLY DIDN'T THINK THAT THAT WAS THE APPROPRIATE ROUTE EITHER. SO WE FOCUSED MORE ON A FORCED SALE MORE MODEST HOUSING THAT COULD TIE INTO THE GRADUATED CARE IN THE AREA. AND TO CLEAR UP ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MISS ARNOLD DID ANALYSIS. EXCELLENT JOB AND DISCUSSING WAS THE DESIGN STANDARDS IF WE WERE SIX MONTHS FROM NOW. DESIGN STANDARDS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING OR NOT NEW OR DIFFERENT OR SUB STANDARD.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY THE DESIGN STANDARDS OF THE NEW ZONING CODE THAT THE CITY MCKINNEY WILL PROBABLY BE ADOPTING WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS, WE LOOKED AT THE NEW ZONING CODE AND WE SAID, HEY, WHAT CAN WE BORROW FROM? WHAT'S ABOUT TO BE ADOPTED IN THIS IN THIS PROCESS AND THIS JOURNEY. THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH IN TERMS OF IMPROVING OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND BRING IT INTO A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT ACTUALLY COULD BENEFIT FROM IT, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. THEY'RE THEY'RE VIRTUALLY THE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT ARE PROPOSING THAT HE'S SO COULD YOU. COULD YOU GIVE US WHAT? WHAT ARE THOSE DEVIATIONS RIGHT NOW? SO SOME OF THE DEMON DEVIATIONS WOULD BE, FOR EXAMPLE , THE LOT SIZE IS THE DENSITY.

THE SETBACKS, ALL OF IT IN THE OLD CODE. REMEMBER OUR OLD CODE IS A HODGEPODGE OF 30 YEARS WORTH OF BAND AIDS. THE NEW CODE BASICALLY SAYS. LET'S DO AWAY WITH ALL THE BAND AIDS AND LET'S CLEAR IT UP AND BE VERY FOCUSED ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE. SO IT'S SOME OF THOSE ITEMS, SIR , THAT REALLY FOCUS MORE ON THE LOT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. SO WOULD WE ANTICIPATE? FORGIVE ME FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT WOULD WE ANTICIPATE THESE ARE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSE THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED NOW IS THAT THE DELTA SPEAKING TO THE LAYMAN, THE NET RESULT IS THERE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSITY, BUT THAT'S NOT THE INTENT. THE REALLY FOCUSES AND ON A NUMBER OF OUR PROJECTS THAT WE WILL BE BRINGING BEFORE YOU HEAR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. WE'RE DOING A LOT OF FORWARD LOOKING TO THE NEW CODE AND APPLYING THOSE CODES TO DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE. A LOT OF THESE PROPERTIES NEED TO BE LOOKED THROUGH THE PRISM OF THE NEW CODE AND NOT THE OWN CODE. UM AND SO ULTIMATELY THERE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSITY, BUT NOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF MORE UNITS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 14 UNITS. UH YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE 14 ACRES RATHER WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DENSITY OF 345 UNITS TO THE ACRE AH, THAT THAT'S THAT'S NOT A LOT OF UNIONS, SO WE HAVE MIXED IN THE DUPLEXES. THE ATTACHED DETACHED TO KIND OF GIVE THAT WHOLE PLETHORA OF HOUSING OPTIONS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS DUPLEXES IN. THERE MAY BE SOME. TOWN HOMIE TYPE THINGS OKAY, AND APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY SQUARE FEET IN EACH RESIDENTS IF YOU GET DOWN THAT FAR FOR ME FOR THAT, ACTUALLY, COUNCILMAN IF I COULD ASK CASEY TO SEE IF HE CAN SHED SOME LIGHT ON SOME OF THESE FINITE POINT, SIR. THANK YOU. AND WE HAVEN'T SPECIFICALLY CASEY GREGORY SANCHEZ ASSOCIATES. WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY LOOKED AT ANY FLOOR PLANS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT YET, UH MY CLIENT IS LEANING MORE NOW TOWARDS A MIX OF TOWN HOMES AND

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DUPLEXES. THE DUPLEX IS OF COURSE, YOU KNOW IT'S ONE LOT, BUT IT'S TWO UNITS ON THAT LOT.

THE GENERALLY SPEAKING I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING AT EACH UNIT BEING SOMEWHERE AROUND 2500 SQUARE FEET FOR 500 SCRIPT, FOOT MEET, SO YOU KNOW FAIRLY DECENT 2000 AND 2500. SO UNIT IN THE DUPLEX. IS THAT 12 50 PER UNIT, OR IS THAT 25 PER UNIT IN THE 5000 FT DUPLEX WOULD BE LIKE A 4000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE TO BUY THE BUY IN TWO PARTS, BASICALLY, AND THIS WOULD ALL BE FOR SALE PRODUCTS. YES SIR. YES, SIR. THANK YOU, CASEY. I APPRECIATE IT. SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE SOME OF THEM NUANCE OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE. WE'RE REALLY JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEW CODE AND TRYING TO APPLY THOSE STANDARDS TO AN ODD PIECE OF PROPERTY. UM AND FOR THAT, I CONTINUE TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I APOLOGIZE. SORRY ONE OF THE QUESTION OF ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT MRS ARNOLD BROUGHT UP. WAS. UM RUNNING THE STREETS AND HAVING A STREET PATTERN IN THERE, AND I'LL MAKING IT WORK WITH ALL THE SETBACKS AND EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO PUT IN THERE. HAVE YOU DONE ANY LAYOUTS OR ANYTHING WE HAVE , SIR, WE'VE DONE PROBABLY HALF A DOZEN OR MORE DIFFERENT LAYOUTS. AND THE REALITY IS MR ARNOLD APTLY PUT YOU KNOW, DONATE IS ONE THING, DESIGN STANDARDS AND ANOTHER THING. I'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT WORK ONCE IT GETS ENTITLED. OUR ACTUAL PREFERENCE IF I COULD JUST WAVE MY HAND, RIGHT? WOULD BE TO START ESTABLISHING CONNECTION THIS WAY AS A SECOND POINT OF ACCESS, INCLUDING TO THAT POINT OF ACCESS THAT WAY AGAIN TO CREATE THE SYNERGY BETWEEN THE PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THE GRADUATED CARE FACILITIES, EVERYTHING THERE. THAT'S REALLY WHAT I THINK THE ULTIMATE TIRES AND OBVIOUSLY THAT SUBJECT WE HAVE TO GO BY AN EASEMENT OR WE HAVE TO GO NEGOTIATING, COORDINATE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT. IT'S NOTHING'S EASY ANYMORE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD END UP DOING. QUESTIONS. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM. SEEING NONE. THEIR MOTION JUST TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

HAVE SOME DISCUSSION. SO MOVED SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE. RIGHT DISCUSSION. I'LL START. I DON'T I DON'T LOVE THIS THIS LOCATION FOR THIS PRODUCT. I THINK WE. WE NEED TO FIND PLACES FOR THIS MISSING MIDDLE PRODUCT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT I THINK IN THIS LOCATION WHERE AND SUDDENLY LONG FOR FAILURE. I THINK THE ACCESS IS AN ISSUE. UM I AGREE THAT IT'S ISOLATED. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT HIGHWAY INTERCHANGES GOING TO LOOK LIKE. IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE AH, ABLE TO GO NORTH AND TURN AROUND. UM IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE A SOUTHERN EXIT. UM. THE JUST.

NEXT TO A TEXT ON. UM SIDE LIKE THAT. I JUST I THINK WE'RE SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT'S NOT GOING TO SUCCEED IN THE FUTURE. DEFINED SUCCEED. IF YOU WOULD FOR ME TO DO IT. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT AND WONDER. WHILE WE PUT THAT PRODUCT THERE AND. IT'S NOT IDEAL FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE AND MM. SOME NEAR FUTURE. UM. I'M VERY CONFLICTED . ON THE ONE HAND. I LOVE THAT WE CAN GET STARTED TYPE HOMES IN HERE, MR SANCHEZ. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I THINK THE MARKET OF YOUNG HOMEBUYERS WILL INHALE THIS BEFORE. A LOT OF THE OTHER PEOPLE GET OUT THERE AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A THREE STORY TOWN HOME. BECAUSE IN SOME 569 YOU CAN. THERE'S A REALLY NICE FIRST TIME VIRUS PROGRAM HERE, AND THAT'S A REAL BIG DEAL FOR ME. THE DIFFICULTY THAT I'VE GOT, THOUGH, IS, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT NAMING NEIGHBORHOODS, THERE'S SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT JUST WIND UP BEING IN A BAD PLACE. I THINK MAYBE TO THE POINT. JUSTIN WAS SAYING THEY'VE GOT COMPLAINTS ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORS. AND ARE WE SELLING FUTURE COUNCILS OF BILL OF GOODS BY SAYING OH, WELL, YOU KNOW? YEAH. YOU BOUGHT BY THIS TECH STOCK THING? IT WAS THERE AND UM SO I'M CONFLICTED. I LOVE THE HOUSING. YOU KNOW, 69. I LOVE IT . UH I GOT A LITTLE BIT OF TOUGH TIME WITH THE LOCATION. BUT I ALSO REALIZED THAT IT'S ALL ADULTS WHO ARE GOING TO BE BUYING IT, AND THEY'RE BUYING IT NEXT TO A TECH STOCK PLACE. AND UH, YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW IT'S NOT A UNICORN FARM UP THERE. I AGREE WITH PATRICK AND THE FACT THAT

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IT IS WHAT IT IS. YOU KNOW WHAT'S THERE? YOU SEE IT WHEN YOU BUY YOUR TOWN HOME OR WHATEVER YOU KNOW IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DO WITH IT, THAT THAT'S CONFLICTING TO ME. IS YOUR NEXT TO TEXT DOT? WELL, IF YOU NOTICE WHAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE, THAT'S A MOBILE HOME PARK.

AND SO ALMOST SEE THIS IS CHANGING THE CULTURE OUT THERE. AND HOPEFULLY AS IT MOVES ON, TEXT UP, MAYBE GOES AWAY AND THE MOBILE HOME PARK DOES WHY, BUT I DON'T SEE THE OFFICE COMPONENT THAT UM, IN THAT AREA. SO IT MAKES SOME SENSE TO ME. THE COMMENTS. I DON'T SEE THE OFFICE COMPONENT BEING SUCCESSFUL, BUT I THINK OF SELF STORAGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE THIS WOULD BE A PERFECT SITE FOR IT WITH LIMITED ACCESS GOOD VISIBILITY. THOSE TYPES OF AROUND. CHARACTERISTICS TO THE SITE. I JUST IF THERE WERE CROSS ACCESS INTO THE UM. PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH OF I THINK I WOULD MAYBE FEEL A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, BUT BUT HONEY, BUT LET'S LET'S DIG IN ON THAT FOR A SECOND BECAUSE IT WOULD BE FOR THEM TO GET THIS IS JUST AN ENTITLEMENT PROCESS FOR THEM TO GET A SITE PLAN APPROVED JENNIFER THEY WOULD HAVE TO, THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEAT. THOSE REQUIREMENTS OF TWO POINTS OF ACCESS, CORRECT. YES WHEN LAST THEY SO I WANNA CLARIFY. WOULD IT BE A FLAT PROCESSES THAT WERE SINGLE FAMILY, BUT IT WOULD IT WOULD REQUIRE TWO POINTS OF ACCESS FOR OUR FIRE REQUIREMENTS UNLESS THE VARIANCES SOUGHT AND RECEIVED. SO IF WE WERE TO GRANT THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS, BUT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO SATISFY THN THEY'RE JUST STUCK WITH THIS PROPERTY THAT THEY'VE ENTITLED TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND TRY TO READ. SO REMEMBER, WE'RE MAKING THESE DECISIONS. THERE ARE SEVERAL LAYERS OF THEM AND. AND THEY'D HAVE TO SATISFY THOSE THINGS. THEY HAVE TO SATISFY ALL THE LIFE SAFETY, ALTHOUGH THAT IT'S BEEN EXPRESSED AS A CHALLENGE, AND I CERTAINLY SEE THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET THOSE RIGHT. YOU KNOW, TO GET TO GET A PLAN APPROVED. YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MUCH PRESSURE ON HOUSING HERE IN MCKINNEY AND I KNOW THE NEW GUY UP HERE, AND THAT'S NOT LOST ON ME. BUT MEN ARE RED SERHIY, UM, HOME PRICES ARE HIGH. IT'S TOUGH TO FIND A PLACE TO LIVE HERE IN MCKINNEY AND, UH GENERALLY AS A RULE. I'D MUCH RATHER HOMEOWNERSHIP THAN RENTAL. AND THIS IS A METHOD TO DO THAT. I REWIND THE CLOCK AND HAVE YOU KNOW? 35 YEARS AGO, PATRICK COMING UP HERE TO LIVE HERE, I'D MUCH RATHER OWN HOME THAT IS BY THE TECH START AND BITE MY LIP, WAITING TO BUILD SOME EQUITY FOR A FEW YEARS IN MOVE, THEN THEN RENTING WITH THE NEGATIVE 100% OF RATE OF RETURN, AND SO IT'S TOUGH, BUT I'LL JUSE AND SAY THAT I'M GOING TO BE FOR IT JUST BECAUSE I WANT HOMEOWNERSHIP 69. THEY GET A FEDERAL PROGRAM WITH 0% DOWN. IT'S TOUGH TO GET IN. THIS IS A GOOD GET FOR US. YEAH, I'M GOING TO AND I. I CERTAINLY RESPECT AND SEE EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN CONVEYED BY STAFF. BUT FOR ME, THE SCALE IS TIPPED WITH THE IDEA OF HOMEOWNERSHIP AT THAT PRICE POINT. IN THIS IN THIS CODE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MIDDLE HOUSING MARKET ENDLESSLY, AND WE JUST DON'T SEE VERY MANY PROJECTS THAT COME IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE. AND SO FOR ME, THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE CONSIDERED. WHERE ELSE DOES IT COMING IN THE CITY? WHERE ELSE ARE WE HEARING? DUPLEXES OR TOWN HOMES THAT ARE REALLY COMING IN THIS ZIP CODE OR ANY OTHER IN MCKINNEY. I'M NOT HEARING THEM. SO THAT THAT DOES TOOK THE SKILL FOR ME AS WELL. I DON'T LOVE THE LOCATION. I DON'T LOVE THE AWKWARDNESS OF THE PLACEMENT, BUT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR. THROUGH EMOTION. MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE PROJECT IS PROPOSED.

I'LL SECOND AS CASTRO VOTES. MOTION PASSES. THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ACT

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “RS-60” - Single Family Residence District, “H” - Historic Preservation Overlay District, and “TMN” - Traditional McKinney Neighborhood Overlay District to “PD” - Planned Development District, “H” - Historic Preservation Overlay District, and “TMN” - Traditional McKinney Neighborhood Overlay District, Generally to Allow for Single Family Residential Uses and to Modify the Development Standards, Located on the Southeast Corner of College Street and Howell Street, and Accompanying Ordinance]

REQUEST THE REASON SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM RS 60 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, DISTRICT AGE HISTORIC PRESERVATION, OVERLAY DISTRICT AND TRADITIONAL MCKINNEY NEIGHBORHOOD OVERLAY DISTRICT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. HISTORIC PRESERVATION OVERLAY DISTRICT AND TRADITIONAL

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BEGINNING NEIGHBORHOOD OVERLAY DISTRICT GENERALLY TO ALLOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES AND TO MODIFY THAT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF COLLEGE STREET AND HOUSE STREET AND COMPANIES ORDINANCE. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. AS YOU READ THIS REQUEST TO RESOUND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. FROM R S 62, A PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT AND RETAINING ALL OF THE APPLICABLE OVERLAYS ON THAT TRACKED. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF COLLEGE AND HOW WILL STREETS NEAR CALDWELL ELEMENTARY IN FRENCH PARK? ITSELF IS JUST OVER FOUR ACRES IN SIZE WITH THE REASONING THAT REQUEST THE AFRICAN IS ACTUALLY PROPOSING TO MAINTAIN ALL OF THE SPACE LIMITS DENSITIES LOT STANDARDS. THAT CURRENTLY EXIST ON THE PROPERTY. THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THE REQUESTED REZONE IS TO MODIFY THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. AND IN PARTICULAR, WITH THIS APPLICANT, DETACHED GARAGES. UNDER OUR CURRENT CODE , ANY ACCESSORY BUILDING IS REQUIRED TO OBSERVE A 10 FT MINIMUM BUILDING SET BACK FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE IF NO ALLEY EXISTS. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO OBSERVE A FIVE FT REAR AND SIDE YARD. I'M SORRY. FIVE FT. REAR INSIDE YARD SETBACK FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES THAT ARE LESS THAN 500 FT. INSIDE OR SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.

ANY ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT IS OVER 500 FT. INSIDES WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED TO OBSERVE THE SETBACKS OF THE ZONING DISTRICT OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. UM SO STAFF IS REVIEWED THE REQUEST WITH THE APPLICANT. WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT SISTER CITIES AS WELL AS THAT NEW CODE MCKINNEY INITIATIVE THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY. WE DO FEEL AS THOUGH THE REQUEST IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH ALL OF THOSE RESEARCH PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE. IT'S STILL MAINTAINED ADEQUATE SEPARATION FOR FIRE SAFETY PROTECTION. AND WITH THAT IN MIND, WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REZONING REQUEST . WE DO KNOW THAT YOU'VE LIKELY RECEIVED SOME LETTERS OF CONCERN AND OPPOSITION. SOME ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET SPEAKING PREDOMINANTLY TO THINGS LIKE DENSITY AND THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT COULD BE PERMITTED ON THIS TRACT. I DO WANT TO REITERATE THAT WITH THIS REZONING REQUEST, THE AFRICAN IS PROPOSING TO CARRY OVER ALL OF WHAT IS EXISTING ON THAT PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, SO THE DENSITY THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY TODAY WOULD BE THE SAME AFTER OTHER REZONING REQUEST IS CONSIDERED IF IT ULTIMATELY APPROVED. NUMBER OF LOTS THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED ON THIS TRACK ESSENTIALLY WOULD NOT CHANGE AGAIN. THE PRIMARY REASON IS TO MODIFY THAT STEP BACK FOR A SECOND ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CONCERNS REGARDING THINGS SUCH AS DRAINAGE ON THE TRACKS ARE OUR ENGINEERING STAFF IS AWARE OF THAT THEY HAVE TALKED WITH THE APPLICANT AND MADE SURE THAT THE APPLICANT IS AWARE THAT DRAINAGE IS SOMETHING THAT WILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. AS WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AS THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD, UM AND STAFF IS HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE WITH THE REQUEST. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. I CONSIDERED THE ITEM AT THEIR LAST MEETING AND ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL IN A VOTE OF SEVEN. OH I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS, AND I BELIEVE OUR APPLICANT IS AS WELL. WHEN HAVE QUESTIONS. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MISS ARNOLD. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THESE LOTS ARE GOING TO BE RIGHT ABOUT THE EXCUSE ME, THE 6000 FT. AND WHAT YOU'VE GOT IS SKINNY, RIGHT? AND SO IF YOU HAVE A DRIVEWAY GOING UP, THERE'S NO ALLEY TO GO INTO AN ATTACHED GARAGE SHOULD ALMOST HAVE TO DO A HOOK, WHICH IS TOUGH. THERE'S A LOT OF CONCRETE , AND THIS ALLOWS FOR A DETACHED GARAGE TO BE PULLED IN STRAIGHT , SO IT'S LESS CONCRETE, PROBABLY MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING. BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT. I GUESS IT'S SUBJECTIVE, BUT I THINK IT PROBABLY LOOKS BETTER. AND IT'S CERTAINLY GOING TO WEAR BETTER ON THE HOMEOWNER. IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT AND QUITE FRANKLY, WITHOUT THE DETACHED GARAGE? WHAT WOULD LIKELY BE SEEING IS A FRONT ENTRY GARAGE. THIS ALLOWS US RIGHT FURTHER, SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S SOMEWHAT SUBJECTIVE. WHAT LOOKS BETTER? WHAT FEELS BETTER , BUT I WOULD AGREE WITH YOURSELF. AND MAYBE THIS MITIGATES THE NUMBER OF CARS ON THE STREET AND I KNOW THAT'S A MAYBE, BUT YEAH, OKAY. ANOTHER QUESTION FOR STAFF. AFRICAN LIKE TO COME UP JUST YOU DON'T HAVE TO. OKAY. IS THE APPLICANT MAYBE NOT HERE. ARE YOU DO? YOU DON'T NEED TO IF YOU DON'T IF THEY WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO THE EDINBURGH DO YOU FEEL IT'S BEEN ADEQUATELY PORTRAYED? AND I CERTAINLY GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO COME BACK UP AGAIN LATER. IF YOU SO CHOOSE AFTER PUBLIC HEARINGS. MISS DONALD DID AN EXCELLENT JOB REALLY THE WHOLE REASON FOR THE IDENTIFY YOURSELF. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. IDENTIFY YOURSELF, GUYS. MY NAME IS JENNIFER JOHNSON. AND I'M WITH OLIVIA CLARK HOMES. THEY'RE REALLY THE WHOLE REASON FOR THE PD. WAS SO WE CAN ACCOMMODATE WITH THE DETACHED GARAGES. WE WEREN'T THERE WASN'T ENOUGH ROOM TO NAVIGATE AROUND THE HOME WITH THE 10 FT SETBACK REQUIREMENT.

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BECAUSE OF THE DEPTH. SO, UM, REDUCING IT TO FIVE WOULD ALLOW US TO DO THE DETACHED GARAGES.

I'M JUST NOT ABLE TO NAVIGATE AROUND THE HOME WITH THIS LOT SIZE, SO I'LL BE FORCED TO DO A FRONT ENTRY GARAGE. SO WITH THE FIVE FT. WILL BE ABLE TO DELIVER THE DETACHED GARAGE IN WHAT I BELIEVE IS THE SUPERIOR ELEVATION. UM AND PRODUCT THAT I THINK, UM, THIS CITY AND THE CONSUMER WOULD MUCH MORE PREFER. AND IN KEEPING WITH OTIS IN CURRENTLY IN PLACE IN THE HISTORICAL AREA. THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE REQUEST. SO BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU ANY QUESTION? ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. MOVE THAT WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND CAST YOUR VOTES CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING. RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION. I THINK THIS IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

DELIVERS A BETTER LOOKING PRODUCT. MAKING A MOTION. WE APPROVE THIS, ADAM. SECOND WAS CAST YOUR VOTES.

[Recognition of Former City Council Member Frederick Frazier]

ALRIGHT WE'RE GONNA JUMP BACK NOW TO ITEM 220090 THAT I PASSED BY THE WAY UNANIMOUSLY RECOGNITION OF FORMER CITY COUNCIL MEMBER FREDERICK FRAZIER. AND MOVE MOVE YET TO THE FRONT ROW STRAIGHT UP. I GOTTA SAY THIS, PATRICK, YOU'RE PRETTY HARD ON THE FOLKS UP HERE ASKING FOR I HAD A GOOD TUTOR. YOUR DAUGHTER. IT'S LIKE YOUR DAD'S TOUGH. SO I DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS. SO WALK ME THROUGH THIS LITTLE BIT. YOU KNOW, IF WE IF YOU'D LIKE TO JUST SAY IF YOU WORDS I KNOW THAT'S GOT TO BE HEARTBREAKING TO DEPART FROM THIS INCREDIBLE GROUP OF PEOPLE AND IT'S BUT YEAH, AND THEN WE LIKED ALL SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS IS A ROAST IN IT, BUT IT IS A ROAD. WANT TO TELL HIM THAT TILL AFTER HE SPOKE SO HE WOULD NOT REASSESS.

DID SOMEONE TURN THREE MINUTES AND MR TRADEOFF FOR EXPONENTS? YEAH SO, YEAH, AND I WANT I DON'T THINK I'LL NEED THREE MINUTES. UM, I'VE GOT TO SAY THAT EXPERIENCE UP THERE, JUST LIKE EVERYONE HAS HAD WHETHER YOU WERE RUNNING OR OR MAKING IT HAPPEN. I SEE CHARLIE MADE IT IN. YOU SAID YOU WEREN'T GOING TO BE HERE. BUT THANK YOU, CHARLIE. EVERYONE HAS DONE SO MUCH WORK TO BE THERE, AND THAT'S THE ONE THING FOLKS DON'T UNDERSTAND. NO ONE UP THERE WANTS TO DO SOMETHING BAD FOR THIS CITY. AND UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE GROUPS THAT THINK THAT THE FOLKS THAT GET UP THERE WANT TO DO HARM TO THE CITY? THAT'S THE MOST UNFORTUNATE STATEMENT I'VE EVER HEARD. EVERYTHING THAT WE DO UP THERE MAKES A DIFFERENCE FOR THE CITY MAKES A DIFFERENCE FOR THIS COMMUNITY MAKES A DIFFERENCE FOR COMMUNITIES THAT IT SERVES IN THE INDIRECT. WE ARE THE BRAINCHILD RIGHT HERE. I MEAN, WHEN I SAY THAT MCKINNEY IS NOT THIS SYSTEM, BUT MCKINNEY FOR THE SERVING COLLIN COUNTY COMMUNITIES WERE WHEN IT STARTS HERE. IT FILTERS OUT. AND THAT'S AND THAT'S WHERE GOOD DECISIONS ARE MADE. WE'VE BEEN MAKING GREAT DECISIONS BUILDING A GREAT CITY GRADING BUILDING A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR EVERYBODY THAT COMES IN HERE. AND THE PUBLISHES. WE SERVE THAT SITS HERE. GET TO SEE IT. FRONT ROW AND I KNOW MY WIFE'S HERE SOMEWHERE. TRACY'S WHERE YOU LEFT HER. I KNOW WHEN WE RAN OUR CAMPAIGN FOR CITY MANAGER FIRST FOR CITY COUNCIL. WE DID NOT HAVE ANY ASPIRATIONS TO GO ANY FURTHER. AND I GOT THAT QUESTION WITH OUTSIDE. YOU RAN THAT TO RUN FOR THIS. THAT IS NOT CLOSE TO TRUE. THAT THAT IS IN IT. AND FOR HER, IF YOU THINK THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE TALKED TO ME BECAUSE I'LL TELL YOU, IT WAS NEVER TRUE IN THE FIRST PLACE IRAN FOR THAT POSITION BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE FOR THE COMMUNITY. I KNOW JOY WITH HEAR AMANDA'S HERE. KNOWN THEM FOR THE DAY WE BUILT OUR HOME THERE IN SOIL WOULD, WHICH IS NAMED AFTER HER FAMILY? WE HAVE SERVED THAT COMMUNITY VERY, VERY WELL. AT EVERY ASPECT, NEVER TO HURT IT ALWAYS TO CHERISH IT ALWAYS TO TAKE CARE OF THE COMMUNITY THAT SURROUNDS IT. NO DIFFERENT THAN THAT POSITION RIGHT THERE.

NO DIFFERENT THAN THE POSITION I'M SEEKING RIGHT NOW. FOR HB 61. AND SO. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, GEORGE. CHARLIE GENERATE MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR WHO IS PROBABLY LIKE I DON'T KNOW WHEN

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HE SLEEPS BECAUSE HE'S HIS CAR GOES IN AND OUT. READY ROGERS PAUL DRIVES YOU'VE BEEN AN UNBELIEVABLE CITY MANAGERS. TRUST ME. WE'VE SEEN SOME REALLY CRAPPY ONES. SUDDEN THAT'S WHY HE LOOKS SO GOOD. SO HE'S JUST TOLD THAT TO OUR POLICE CHIEF AS WELL, YOU KNOW, THE PART WAS THAT SO LONG YOU JUST EXCEEDED IT RIGHT OFF GETTING HIRED. SO AND I MEAN, PATRICK, YOU'VE BEEN WONDERFUL BREATH OF FRESH AIR COMING IN, RICK. WE KNOW THE PHONES AWFUL. THEN YOU CAN'T TAX . WE'LL WORK ON IT, BUDDY, BELOVED. WIPE THE CLASSMATE JUSTIN, YOU KNOW, IT'S PRETTY FORTUNATE. YOU HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT YOU WORKED AROUND FOR SO LONG TO DO SO MANY THINGS TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. AND WE ALL DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, AND THEY LOOK AT THE CITY WHEN YOU PUT A CITY AND YOU AND YOU HAVE NOW, FOLKS COMPARING US TO LIKE FREDERICKSBURG FOR DESIGNATION SPOTS, AND THEY SAY, WELL, YOU GOTTA GO TO MCKENNY. YOU GOT TO GO TO THE OCTOBERFEST. YOU'VE GOT TO GO TO MCKINNEY. THEY HAVE THEIR HOMETOWN MUSIC. YOU HAVE TO GO TO MCKINNEY BECAUSE OF THE STYLE OF WHERE PEOPLE STILL WAVE. THE AMERICAN FLAG STILL FLIES. IT'S AN AMAZING PLACE THAT WE LIVE AND WE HAVE TO PROTECT IT. AND THAT'S WHAT MY NEXT STEP IS, IS TO RUN FOR THIS OFFICE AND PROTECTED AND THEN KEEP IT THE WAY MCKINNEY REALLY DESERVES TO BE KEPT IN THE SUN AND THE FUNCTIONING AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO BE SURROUNDING IT. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE. ESPECIALLY ARE RAPED ATTORNEY EVERYONE ELSE. EMPRESS'S SOMEWHERE HERE. SHE'S PROBABLY DOWNLOADING MY IPAD THAT MAYBE GOT TURNED ON ONE TIME PADS, EXCEPT FOR THE ONE THAT SITS UP THERE, SO DIDN'T HAVE A LOT TO SAY. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. I SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE WEEKS AGO. BUT WE'VE BEEN CAMPAIGNING AND I'M NOT SUNBURN. I AM WINBERG. IF YOU IT IS, THERE'S A VERY WINDY DAY AND WE WORKED THE POLLS ALL DAY. TODAY. WE'RE GOING TO WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY UNTIL WE TAKE THIS ACROSS THE FINISH LINE. SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. FREDERICK. WE HAVE WE HAVE SOME THINGS TO SAY TO YOU, AND THEN WE HAVE A PLAQUE FOR YOU. BUT ANNOUNCEMENT PHILLIPS, YOU NEED TO STAY RIGHT HERE. RIGHT THERE. GET COMFORTABLE. SPREAD IS IT'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS HONOR TO SERVE WITH YOU. AND I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT IN ORDER TO BE A PUBLIC SERVANT, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. FRED'S CHOSEN LINE OF WORK AND POLICING OUR COMMUNITIES IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT HOW YOU SERVED THE PUBLIC THROUGHOUT YOUR CAREER. UM IT'S ALSO PRETTY COOL TO KNOW THAT I'VE GOT TWO U. S MARSHALS SITTING UP HERE WHO'S GOT MY BACK IN CASE THINGS GET UGLY. UM BUT I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THERE'S WHEN FRED RAN FOR MCKINNEY CITY COUNCIL IN 2000 AND 19. IT WAS A LEGISLATIVE YEAR. AND I LITERALLY SAW FRED IN AUSTIN MORE THAN I SAW HIM IN MCKINNEY AND I WOULD RUN INTO FRED DOWN AT THE CAPITOL HOUSE WONDERING, YOU KNOW, WHY IS THIS GUY ALWAYS HERE WHEN I'M HERE? AND FRED HAS BEEN WORKING IN THE CAPITAL FOR YEARS AND YEARS REPRESENTING THE POLICE ASSOCIATIONS DOWN THERE, AND WHEN HE GOES DOWN TO AUSTIN, HE'S NOT GOING TO BE A JUNIOR REPRESENTATIVE DOWN THERE. HE'S GOING TO GO IN, WELL SEASONED BECAUSE HE KNOWS HIS WAY AROUND . HE KNOWS THE DOORS TO KNOCK ON AND THOSE DOORS OPEN FOR HIM. AND IT IS GOING TO BE A JAM FROM MCKINNEY THAT HAVE FRED FRAZIER REPRESENTING US DOWN IN AUSTIN, AND I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR STEPPING UP AND REPRESENTING US AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOUR SUCCESS DOWN THERE. THE SAME AS I SAW YOUR SUCCESS HERE. THANK YOU, FRED. OH, ALSO WANT TO SAY. YOU'RE MARRIED UP, BUT AND YOU HAVE JUST A TREMENDOUSLY GIFTED , TALENTED AND BEAUTIFUL FAMILY , AND IT'S JUST BEEN A PLEASURE TO GET TO KNOW EACH AND ALL OF THEM AND WATCH YOUR LITTLE GOLFER. COME ALONG, WATCH GONNA GET HIS FIRST DEER. IT'S JUST BEEN FUN WATCHING YOUR FAMILY GROW UP. THANKS FOR SHARING THAT WITH ME, FRED. THANK YOU, CHARLIE. ALL RIGHT TO MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR. THIS GUY LIVING NEXT TO YOU HAS BEEN QUITE AN ADVENTURE HAS BEEN A LOT OF FUN. UM I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I HAVE WATCHED YOU AND TRACY WORKS SO HARD AND THIS COMMUNITY AND IT IS INSPIRING TO SEE WHAT YOU'VE DONE. I WANT TO SAY TO THE PUBLIC THAT HE TREATS ALL OF YOU THE WAY HE DOES ME AS HIS NEIGHBOR. HE TAKES GOOD CARE OF ME AND MAKE SURE THAT I'M OK AND THAT I AM I HAVE EVERYTHING THAT I NEED. AND I WATCHED HIM TREAT EACH AND EVERY PERSON IN THIS COMMUNITY IN THE SAME MANNER. SO FREDERICK, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK. I KNOW. WE KNOW THAT SOME BIG THINGS ARE IN STORE FOR YOU. WE HAVE NOT ALWAYS AGREED ON A LOT OF THINGS . WE'VE HAD SOME VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATIONS, AND WE DON'T MEET EYE TO EYE ON EVERY ISSUE. BUT WHAT I DO APPRECIATE ABOUT YOU IS THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO LISTEN AND YOU'RE NOT SO HELD UP IN YOUR CORNER. TRYING TO DEFEND THAT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE

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MORE OBJECTIVE AND LISTEN TO A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW, AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED IN LEADERSHIP. WE DON'T NEED PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT BE MOVED ON ANY ACCOUNT AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO LISTEN AND TO, UM TO EXPRESS YOUR PERSPECTIVE SO THAT THERE IS BETTER UNDERSTANDING SO THAT WE STILL FEEL LIKE COMMUNITY AND CAN WORK TOGETHER. AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED AT THE STATE LEVEL AS WELL. SO I WISH YOU THE BEST THAT AS YOU GET THERE TRACY. I THINK THAT ONE OF THE BENEFITS IS SEEING HIM WALK 70 80 MILES A WEEK IS HE'S LOST A LITTLE WEIGHT SOMEWHERE. HAVE WELL DONE. AND SPEAKING OF TRACY, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, SURE FREDERICK WOULD ECHO THIS. YOU CAN'T DO THIS WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF A GREAT WIFE. YOU CAN'T HAVE THIS GREAT SPOUSE TOO. AND IT'S AND IT'S A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU ALL WORK TOGETHER. THAT'S THAT'S VERY HEARTWARMING, AND SHE'S IN IT 100% AND WHAT A GREAT PARTNER TO HAVE SO WELL DONE. UM WHEN FRED FIRST CAME HERE, HE REPLACED TRACY WRATH WHO WAS TRULY ONE OF THE MOST PREPARED CITY COUNCIL. PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE ARE I MEAN, SHE WAS TRULY PREPARED TO SPEND HOURS AND HOURS AND SHE DIDN'T HAVE A JOB SO AT THE TIME, AND SO SHE WOULD THIS WAS HER JOB. AND SO I THOUGHT, WOW, FREDERICK'S GOING TO HAVE BIG SHOES TO FILL, AND WE DIDN'T MISS A BEAT. I MEAN, FREDERICK IS TRULY ONE OF THE MOST PREPARED GUYS UP HERE EVERY TIME. I WAS ALWAYS AMAZED. YEAH, I WENT DROVE OVER HERE AND DROVE OVER THERE AND I LOOK OVER HERE AND TALK TO THESE PEOPLE. AND IT'S JUST LIKE, WOW, WHEN DO YOU WORK? I MEAN IT JUST AND SO THAT'S WHAT HE BRINGS. I MEAN, IT'S HE DOESN'T JUST FOLLOW WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE SAYS HE DOESN'T JUST FOLLOW. THIS IS WHAT I'M TOLD, HE FINDS OUT AND THAT'S BEEN A GREAT. THING ABOUT FREDERICK AND I COULDN'T AGREE MORE WITH CHARLIE IN THE FACT THAT HE WILL BE A GREAT REPRESENTATIVE DOWN THERE. HE KNOWS WHO'S WHO AND WHAT'S WHAT, AND HE WILL BE ABLE TO GET THINGS DONE. NOBODY'S BEEN ABLE TO GET THINGS YOU KNOW WHERE PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET THINGS DONE FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY IN AND HE WILL, AND I THINK IT'S GREAT BECAUSE MOST OF THE GUYS THAT THAT SERVED DOWN THERE NEVER SERVE. IN THE CITY AND UNDERSTAND THIS HOUSE CITIES RUN. AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY KEEP TAKING POWERS AWAY FROM THE CITY . THEY WANTED TO TAKE THIS AWAY IN THIS WAY, AND THAT WAY AND FREDERICK WILL BE A VOICE. THAT WILL SAY WAIT A MINUTE, GUYS. YOU GOT TO KEEP THE POWER TO GIVE THE POWER BACK TO THE CITIES. WE'VE GOT TO HELP THEM HERE AND HELP THEM HERE AND THAT'S REALLY SOMETHING WE'VE WE'VE NEVER HAD. FRANKLY WE NEED A VOICE FOR THE CITIZENS IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY AND, UM AND I AM I'M 100% BEHIND YOU. AND I TRULY HOPE THAT YOU ARE SUCCESSFUL. WELL DONE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. AND MAYBE, MAN. THANK YOU. LISTEN. FRED YOU MENTIONED WE WERE CLASSMATES. FRED FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW FRED AND I GOT TO BE PART OF THE BEST LEADERSHIP MCKINNEY CLASS OF ALL TIME, ALONG WITH FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT ELLIOTT.

AND SO THAT WAS 2012. SO IT'S 10 YEARS THAT. THAT I'VE GOTTEN TO WATCH FRED SERVICE COMMUNITY AND YOU'VE DONE WELL AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT YOU DO IN THE FUTURE. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO, FRIEND. THANK YOU, JUSTIN. WELL. I'LL TELL A STORY. TRACY WRATH CALLED ME ONE DAY. AND THIS WAS BEFORE I EVEN DECIDED TO RUN FOR OFFICE. BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO GO MEET THIS GUY'S THINKING ABOUT RUNNING FROM MY SPOT, AND I THINK HE'S GOOD. MAYBE YOU SHOULD GO HAVE LUNCH WITH HIM. SO WE SAT IN. WE HAD RUN LUNCH HAD A WONDERFUL LUNCH, TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS.

AND YOU KIND OF GET WHEN YOU GET A GUT FEELING. I GOT FEELINGS USUALLY PRETTY GOOD THAT HEY, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD GUY. THIS THIS GUY IS GOING TO WORK. AND TO SAY YOU EXCEEDED MY EXPECTATIONS IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT. YOU DID MORE THAN I THOUGHT YOU WOULD EVER DO. I WATCHED YOUR DEDICATION I WATCH COMPASSION. I WATCHED HOW YOU HANDLE PEOPLE AND HOW YOU CARED FOR PEOPLE. AND YOU'LL GO DOWN AS ONE OF THE BEST COUNCILMAN WE WE'VE EVER HAD. IN MY OPINION. BUT OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME OVER THREE YEARS WE KIND OF RAN TOGETHER. WE DID A LOT OF OUR EVENTS TOGETHER AND STUFF, AND I WATCHED HOW HARD HE WORKS. AND NOBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT HE DOES. AND I MEAN I WOULD WATCH WHAT HE DOES, AND I GET TIRED AND GO HOME. TAKE A MAP, BUT HE CATCHES BAD GUYS DURING THE BAG. SOME DAYS HE WOULDN'T GET ANY SLEEP AT ALL. HE'D GO DOWN TO AUSTIN TO DO ALL THE STUFF FOR THE DALLAS POLICE ASSOCIATION. THEN HE'D COME BACK AND YOU TAKE

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CARE OF HIS FAMILY. BUT ALL HIS FAMILY EVENTS I GO. IS THERE A CLONE? I MEAN, WHERE DOES THIS ANY SHOWS UP THAT ALL THE MEETINGS AND ALL THE EVENTS SO HE'S A TIRELESS WORKER, AND HE'S GOING TO DO THAT IN AUSTIN. SAME THING, AND I'M HONORED TO CALL YOU, MY FRIEND. I'M HONORED TO SERVE WITH YOU. AND ANYTIME YOU NEED ANYTHING, CALL ME. I'LL BE THERE. NO. WE STARTED WE MET. I THINK AROUND 2011. WE WERE BOTH ON GENERAL INNKEEPERS REELECTION CAMPAIGN AT THE TIME. AND YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT, MAN, THIS KIND WORKS. THEN WE DIDN'T TALK MUCH UNTIL YOU CALLED ME WHEN YOU WERE GOING TO RUN FOR THIS SEAT, AND YOU DIDN'T MEET THE MOLD OF THE GUY WANTED TO RUN FOR THIS SEAT BECAUSE YOU HAD YOUNG KIDS. AND YOU HAD TO SELL ME ON THE FACT THAT HEY, I GOT A FAMILY STRUCTURE. I CAN DO THIS. I HAVE THE ENERGY TO DO THIS. UM AND YOU DID, AND I. I WAS PROUD TO SUPPORT YOU. BUT WHAT YOU ARE, MAN IS YOUR RIVER. RIVERS DON'T HIT AND THEN MOVE BACK. THEY DON'T RETREAT. THEY JUST ARE FORCED THEIR CONSTANT FORCE. AND SOMEONE MAY SAY ALL I CAN GET IN THE WAY THAT BUT YOU CAN'T GET IN THE WAY OF THAT. SO TO PARAPHRASE ONE OF YOUR GUESTS THAT YOUR CAMPAIGN RALLY FROM SATURDAY I PITY THE FOOL WHO GETS IN YOUR WAY DOWN IN AUSTIN.

MR T WAS GREAT SATURDAY. THAT'S AWESOME. WELL, COUNCILOR FRASER . IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE. HE SITS RIGHT NEXT TO ME ARE SET RIGHT NEXT TO ME. WHERE COUNCIL INCLUDING A IS NOW A COUPLE THINGS STAND OUT FOR ME. NUMBER ONE. HARD WORKER. HE HAD A NOTEBOOK. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU KNEW THIS BEING UNLOADED NETWORK THEY WILL KEEP AND HE'D WRITE NOTES IN. HE'D WRITE, NOTES AND NOTES AND NOTES, AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU MUST HAVE 100 OF THOSE THINGS BUT STACKS OF THOSE THINGS, AND HE WRITES IT DOWN. AND SO HE COULD EITHER MEMORIZE OR UNDERSTAND AN ISSUE OR THINK OF A QUESTION TO ASK LATER, AND I ALWAYS NOTICED THAT GOODBYE. HE WAS ALWAYS JUST WORKED HARD WITH PREPARATION. HARD WORKER REMINDS ME OF THE PARADE, SO I GOT TO DRIVE HIM AND HIS FAMILY. TRACY AND THEIR KIDS, UM AT THE ONE OF THE PARADES. UM THAT'S WHAT I GOTTA DO. I GET A MOONLIGHT AS A DRIVER FOR OUR COUNCILMAN WHENEVER THEY NEEDED IT PARADES AND HAD A GREAT TIME. BUT HE BROUGHT HE HAD THE MUSICAL OF THE SPEAKER SYSTEM. ALL THE GARB . EVERYTHING TEED UP. IT WAS LIKE TAILGATING LIKE, YOU KNOW, PROFESSIONAL TAILGATERS. THAT'S HOW HE APPROACHES A PARADE. HE'S GOT IT ALL READY TO GO, AND IT'S LIKE A BIG TAILGATE AND UNBELIEVABLY PREPARED. UM AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WOULD JUST SAY IS REMEMBER HIS JOY TO GRASS. I HAD NEVER HEARD OF THAT BEFORE, UNTIL HE TOLD ME AND SO HE TAKES GREAT PRIDE IN HIS YARD , TOO. SO IF YOU HAVE DOESN'T HAVE TIME FOR EVERYTHING ELSE, LOOK AT IT RIGHT NOW. HE'S GOT TIME TO TAKE CARE OF HIS GEORGIA GRASS. BUT ANYWAY, FRED SERIOUSLY, IT'S BEEN A LOT OF FUN. I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK YOU DO. IT'S NOT EASY. WE'VE HAD TOUGH MEETINGS UP HERE, AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU SAT THERE YOU STOOD IN THE BREACH. OUR STEPPED INTO THE BREACH AND TOOK IT AND THEN AND THEN, EVEN WHEN YOU DISAGREE WITH FOLKS, MAYBE WHEN HE HAD SOME HOT MEETINGS, YOU'RE ALWAYS THERE, TALKING WITH HIM AFTERWARDS ARE GOING TO MEET THEM IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU NEVER HELD A GARAGE. YOU KEPT IT JUST KEPT IT REAL, AND I NOTICED THAT I APPRECIATE IT. IN COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DO THAT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN EASY BUSINESS SOMETIMES. SO ANYWAY. THANK YOU. AND BEST OF LUCK TO BOTH OF YOU AND WE'LL SEE YOU AROUND. OF COURSE. THANKS. FRED YEAH, I GOT YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT THAT SAME CALL FROM TRACY WRATH AND TRACY WRATH IS A MENTOR TO I THINK PROBABLY EVERYONE UP HERE , SOMEONE WE ADMIRED AND IT'S STILL ADMIRE AND ALWAYS VIEWED AS THE EPITOME OF A COUNCIL PERSON. AND WHEN SHE AFTER MEETING WITH YOU AND TALKING TO YOU, UH, TO SEE HER SO EXCITED ABOUT SOMEBODY THAT THAT SAID VOLUMES ABOUT YOU. AND THEN I GOT TO MEET YOU. GET TO KNOW YOU DURING THE CAMPAIGN AND THEN WORKING WITH YOU FOR THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS. EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SET UP HERE IS SO TRUE. I MEAN, YOU ARE JUST THE TREMENDOUSLY HARD WORKER. YOU ARE. YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.

THAT PASSION SHOWS WHEN SOME OF THE EXCHANGES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE WE'RE YOUR COMPASSION FOR THE PEOPLE AND UNDERSTANDING YOU KNOW THE OTHER THE OTHER SIDE OR OR OR JUST JUST ANY ANY ISSUE THAT YOU'VE BEEN CONFRONTED WITH YOU ARE THERE PREPARED BUT COMPASSIONATE. AND WITH THE VOICE OF REASON, AND THAT'S BEEN FANTASTIC TO HAVE ON COUNCIL AND TO WATCH YOU MM. LEAD THE WAY YOU'VE LED. AND NOW HERE YOU ARE CAMPAIGNING FOR HOUSE. REP. AND MAN, WE'VE WATCHED ATTACKS ON

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YOU AND ATTACKS ON YOUR FAMILY, AND IT'S DISGUSTING. AND YOU STAY WITH YOUR HEAD WELL ABOVE IT ABOVE THE CLOUDS ABOVE ALL OF THAT NONSENSE. YOU'RE RUNNING FOR THE RIGHT REASON. YOU ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THIS CITY. YOU ACTUALLY CARE. YOU HAVE A FAMILY YOU'RE RAISING HERE. YOU HAVE A WIFE AND KIDS THAT YOU YOU CARE ABOUT THE CITY THAT THEY'RE GROWING UP IN. AND IN ANYONE THAT KNOWS YOU KNOWS THAT IS THE REASON YOU'RE RUNNING. I CAN'T SAY THAT ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE. IN MY OPINION RUNNING FOR YOUR SEAT. NOBODY. YOU WERE RUNNING BECAUSE YOU CARE ABOUT MCKINNEY AND. AND FOR THAT REASON ALONE, THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY SHOULD BE UP AND AT THE POLLS AND SENDING YOU TO AUSTIN BECAUSE ONE THING THEY WILL HAVE. THAT I DON'T THINK THEY. THEY'VE NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU WILL BRING IT.

IS THAT CARE AND LOVE FOR THE CITY THAT YOU HAVE YOUR RAISING YOUR FAMILY AND FOR ME, THAT'S WHY I'M ALL IN WITH YOU. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU YOU JUST GENERALLY CARE. AND THAT'S THAT, TO ME IS ABOVE ALL OTHER NONSENSE, AND SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THAT. THAT PASSION THAT YOU HAVE IN THIS CITY AND WANTING TO GO DOWN THERE AND REPRESENT US. AS YOU'RE TAKING A LOT OF HITS FOR IT. YOUR FAMILY'S TAKING A LOT OF HITS, AND IT'S VERY, VERY SAD. BUT YOU ARE THE BEST MAN FOR THE JOB AND I AM FOCUS. I CAN BE ABOUT IT. WE ALL LOVE YOU, I THINK YES, WE HAVE GREAT LOVE AND APPRECIATION , RESPECT AND ADMIRATION FOR YOU AND TRACY. YOU'RE AN INCREDIBLE YES. YOU'RE AN INCREDIBLE PARTNER TO HIM AND MAINLY, JUST SEND ME A TEXT AND SAID, PLEASE TELL, I SAID, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO CONVEY ANYTHING TO FRED SAID NO TO TRACY. FRED SHE LOVES YOU.

SHE LOVES YOUR PASSION TO USE THE WORD PASSION TOO. AND TRACY, YOU'RE SUCH AN ASSET AND IN SUCH A LIGHT WITH FRED AND THANK YOU FOR BEING BIASED SIDE LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN BECAUSE IT'S TOUGH. I KNOW WHAT SHE KNOWS IT. SO YEAH, THANK YOU, FRIEND. WELL NOW, THANK YOU AND I'LL I SAID THIS AND I THINK ALL OF YOU EVERY ONE OF YOU ARE A MENTOR SOME FASHION BECAUSE WE ALL MENTORS TO OURSELF AND AS IT GOES DOWN, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOK UPON OURSELVES TO FIGURE OUT WHAT RHYME OR REASON OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO FIX SOMETHING OR GET US OVER THAT. YOU KNOW WHERE WE NEED TO PUT SOMETHING, AND THAT'S WHEN YOU BUILD SOMETHING. YOU'RE BUILDING SOMETHING. IT HAS TO BE WITH CONSENSUS OF FOLKS. THAT WANT TO BUILD IT TOGETHER. ANYBODY CAN VOTE NOW. JUST KNOW THAT ANYBODY CAN VOTE. NO. YOU CONSTANTLY COULD VOTE? NO BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A GROUP WORKING TOGETHER, YOU'RE NOT BUILDING ANYTHING. AND I'VE BUILT THINGS MY ENTIRE LIFE WITH FOLKS TOLD ME YOU COULDN'T DO IT. I BUILT. I BUILT IT. I PUT THEM TOGETHER. THEY TOLD ME I COULDN'T PUT THESE GROUPS TOGETHER. I SAID NO, I DON'T. I DON'T THINK WE LOOKED AT IT THE RIGHT WAY. AND I WENT BACK. SOME OF THEM. ONE OF THEM TOOK ME SEVEN YEARS TO BUILD. MOST PEOPLE GAVE UP ON THOSE DEALS. I DID I KNOW THAT THERE'S A REASON FOR FOLKS THAT WANT TO BE TOGETHER. THEY JUST NEED TO SEE THE RIGHT PEOPLE TOGETHER TO BE TOGETHER, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. AND ANOTHER THING I'LL SAY REAL QUICK. WHEN I STARTED THIS CAMP, BUT I SAID, THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TAKE ME TO HELL AND BACK. AND HERE IT IS. THEY'RE TAKING ME TO HELL AND BACK. AND THEY'RE GOING TO DRAG MY FAMILY THROUGH IT, AND THAT'S FINE. THAT JUST SHOWS YOU WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE THEY ARE.

UHH WE HAVE NEVER GONE NEGATIVE . WE WILL GO NEGATIVE. WE ARE CONSTANTLY GOING TO KEEP HER HEAD ABOVE THIS AND WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERY RIGHT THING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE YOU KNOW WHERE THE CHOICE FOR THE PEOPLE. BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO SERVE THE PUBLIC. WE'RE NOT SERVING US OR ONE LITTLE GROUP OR ONE COUPLE, LITTLE GROUPS WERE SERVING THE PEOPLE THAT SERVE DISTRICTS THAT LIVE IN DISTRICT 61. AND THAT'S WHAT A REPRESENTATIVE SHOULD DO. HE SHOULD SERVE THOSE PEOPLE.

AND SO I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ON THE CHALLENGE. I'VE GOT THICK SKIN. I'VE GONE THROUGH THE DOORS.

I'VE BEEN SHOT AT AND I'VE DONE EVERYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE DONE TO ME. THESE PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO HURT ME, ESPECIALLY SOME COMMISSIONER WHO CAN BARELY GET UP OUT OF A SEAT, AND HE'S SITTING THERE TALKING ON FACEBOOK ALL DAY LONG. CONGRATULATIONS, DARRYL HILL. SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU ALL WE HAVE A PLAQUE FOR YOU. YEAH YOU CANNOT LEAVE YET, AND WE'VE GOT TO TAKE A PICTURE WITH. I'LL GO. WE'RE ALL GOING. SHE NEEDS A PICTURE.

YOU SCOOT DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT. SO THAT.

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LIKE THIS. YEAH RIGHT, DUDE. THREE. YEAH. ZERO CASE FOR WRESTLING. COULD FORM.

ALL RIGHT. NOW GO BACK TO WHAT ITEMS ARE WE ON? SEE YEAH. 210154 Z THREE CONDUCTED PUBLIC

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “RS-120” - Single Family Residential District to "PD" - Planned Development District, Generally for Single Family Uses and to Modify the Development Standards, Located at 616 Finch Avenue, and Accompanying Ordinance]

HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ACT ON REQUEST TO REZONE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM RS 1 20 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT GENERALLY TO MODIFY OR GENERALLY FOR SINGLE FAMILY USES INTO MODIFIED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS LOCATED AT 6 16 FINCH AVENUE.

YOU, MR MAYOR. IT'S UNFAIR THAN I AM TO COME UP AND FOLLOW ALL OF THAT. BUT THAT'S OKAY. TWO MORE ITEMS ON FOR PLANNING AND ZONING STUFF. AS YOU READ. THIS IS A REQUEST TO REASON. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM ITS CURRENT DOTING OF RS 1 20. TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS ZONING REQUEST. THE MODIFIED REQUEST IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT IS ACTUALLY LOOKING TO MIRROR THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE FOR THE PROPERTY. THIS IS ONE OF THE CASES THAT I MENTIONED MAYBE A LITTLE BIT CLUNKY, UH, FOR YOU ALL BECAUSE PRIOR TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, THE ORIGINAL REQUEST INCLUDED SOME PROVISIONS THAT STAFF WAS UNABLE TO SUPPORT. REGARDING THE ALLOWANCE FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND THE CHANGE IN BASIS ZONING DISTRICT BEING PROPOSED, HOWEVER, AT THE PLATE AGAIN ZONING COMMISSION MEETING THE APPLICANT DID MODIFY THEIR REQUEST. AND THEIR REQUEST IS NOW TO CARRY OVER THE ZONING DESIGNATION OR THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS ON THE PROPERTY, AND THEY HAVE MODIFIED THEIR REQUEST. REGARDING ME ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ON THE SITE AND WITH THAT STAFF IS COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING, AND WE'RE ABLE TO OFFER FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION. NOW OF THAT. THE REASON FOR THIS REASONING REQUEST IS TO MODIFY IF YOU HAVE THE SPACE LIMITS THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT ON THE TRACK. CURLY ARIZONA ORDINANCE HAS SOME VERY STRONG LIMITS ON ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO MODIFY THOSE IN PARTICULAR. THEY WOULD LIKE TO ALLOW FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT THAT COULD GET UP TO 1000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE, AND THEY'RE ALSO REQUESTING TO MODIFY THE SIDE AND REAR YARD SETBACK FOR THAT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT TO BE FIVE FT. AND WITH THIS MODIFIED REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, STAFF HAS REVIEWED IT AGAINST SISTER CITIES AND THEIR PROVISIONS FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AS WELL AS THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE ON THAT NEW CODE. MCKINNEY INITIATIVE.

WE DO FEEL LIKE THE MODIFIED REQUEST IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE FEEL LIKE THE MODIFIED SETBACKS AND BUILDING LIMITS FOR THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ARE ALSO IN ALIGNMENT. WITH THE CODE OVERHAUL SISTER CITIES AND PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS, SO WITH THAT WE'RE OFFERING A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS ALSO RECOMMENDING APPROVAL IN A VOTE AT 70. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, AND I BELIEVE OUR APPLICANT IS STILL HERE. QUESTIONS FOR STANCE. DURING THE YOU LIKE TO ADD TO THAT PRESENTATION. BACK TO THE PREVIOUS, RIGHT. YEAH. JUST USE THE CLICKER THERE, OKAY? WHEREAS COUNCIL THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME. CASEY GREGORY SANCHEZ ASSOCIATES, 2000 NORTH MCDONALD STREET HERE, MCKINNEY. UH THIS IS A HISTORICAL HOUSE IS GOING TO STAY COMPLETELY, AS IS THE NEW ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT WOULD BE ADDED IN THAT, UH, SOUTHEAST CORNER. YOU SEE THE LITTLE NOTCH OUT? WON'T ACTUALLY EVEN BE VISIBLE FROM THE ROAD. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE IN THAT LITTLE AREA THERE, AND IT'S INTENDED FOR HIS PARENTS LIVE IN SO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER. THANKS SIR. THANK YOU SAYS THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO THE ITEM? IF NOT ENTERTAINING MOTION. MICHAEL MOTION. WE

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APPROVE THIS ISLAND BECAUSE PUBLIC HEARING IMPROVEMENT CLOSE PUPPETEERING TOO. SECOND, HE'S CAST YOUR VOTES.

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit Request to Allow for an Independent Living Facility (Watermere at McKinney), Located on the Southeast Corner of Hardin Boulevard and Virginia Parkway, and Accompanying Ordinance]

ITEM 210015 SCP THREE CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ACT ON A SPECIFIC USE PRIMARY QUEST TO ALLOW FOR AN INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY. WATER MIRROR MCKINNEY, LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF HARDING BOULEVARD IN VIRGINIA PARKWAY IN THE COMPANY AND THE ORDINANCE, JENNIFER THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE WE HAVE RECEIVED QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION FOLLOWING THE COMPLETION OF THE PACKET. IF YOU'LL BEAR WITH ME. I'LL INTRODUCE THE ITEM. AND THEN I WILL, UM OFFER UP SOME HANDLES.

SO, AS YOU SAID, THIS IS A REQUEST TO CONSIDER A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT OR AN S U P FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHICH IS AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF HARDEN IN VIRGINIA, ATTRACT ITSELF IS ABOUT 12.5 ACRES IN SIZE. AND IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED C TWO LOCAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT. AND THAT C TWO DESIGNATION WAS CONSIDERED AND ORIGINALLY APPROVED FOR THE STATE BACK IN THE BELIEVE IT'S 2018. THE SCP REQUESTS BEFORE YOU TODAY IS TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY ON THE TRACK THAT WOULD INCLUDE 225 UNITS, UM, INCLUDED IN THAT SPECIFIC USE PERMITS EXHIBIT THE AFRICAN IS PROPOSING A SERIES OF SINGLE STORY VILLA STYLE. UM.

INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITIES ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY AND THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY WOULD BE 34 AND FIVE STORY DEVELOPMENT. UHH! OH, LET ME TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HANDOUTS. I APOLOGIZE. SO WITH THE REQUEST FOLLOWING COMPLETION OF THE PACKET THAT YOU ALL RECEIVED PRIOR TO THIS MEETING, WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICANT.

UM, FIRST IN THAT PACKET THAT WAS HANDED OUT TO YOU ARE SOME LETTERS OF SUPPORT THAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED FROM RESIDENTS. AND STAFF AT THE WATER MIRROR INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY IN FRISCO. THE ADDITION OF THE OTHER ITEM IN THAT PACKET IS AN EXHIBIT TO SHOW THE DISTANCES BETWEEN THE PROPOSED AH, LIVING . IT'S JUST I'M NOT START INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY AND THE ADJACENT TOWN HOMES AND THEN THE THIRD EXHIBIT IS MODIFICATION TO THE S U. P ORDINANCE. THROUGH MEETINGS WITH ADJACENT RESIDENTS. THE AFRICAN IS NOW PROPOSING TO INCLUDE SOME ADDITIONAL EVERGREEN LANDSCAPING ALONG THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE TO PROVIDE FOR SOME ENHANCED SCREENING ARE REDUCED VISIBILITY BETWEEN THE ADJACENT RESIDENTS. SO THAT IS THE PACK THAT WAS HANDED OUT TO YOU ALL TONIGHT. SO WHEN IT COMES TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST, WHAT WE DO APPRECIATE THAT INDEPENDENT LIVING IS A TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT TYPE THAT IS NEEDED AND BEGINNING. AND WE DO HAVE CONCERNS WITH IT ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE HISTORY ON THIS SITE AND THE DESIRE TO MAINTAIN AS MUCH COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES AS POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY. THIS TRACT IS IF THE HARD CORNER OF TWO MAJOR ARTERIALS IN THE CITY IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED TO ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL ZONING OR COMMERCIAL USES. AND THIS SCP IN FRONT OF YOU WOULD ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL ON THAT SITE GIVEN STAFFS HISTORY ON THIS SITE TO RETAIN IT FOR COMMERCIAL USES WHEN THIS PROPOSAL CAME FORWARD WHAT WE APPRECIATE WHAT THE APPLICANT IS OFFERING. WE DO WANT TO REMAIN CONSISTENT WITH OUR POSITION THAT THIS IS A HARD CORNER DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL . IT IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT IS CONFORMANCE WITH SOME OF THE DIRECTION THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE COUNCIL TO RETAIN COMMERCIAL USES. AND SO FOR THAT REASON, WE'RE UNABLE TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID CONSIDER THE ITEM AT THEIR LAST MEETING AND ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND A VOTE OF FIVE TO I KNOW WHERE APPLICANT IS HERE WITH THE PRESENTATION FOR YOU ALL AS WELL. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. PERSONS FOR JENNIFER. JENNIFER WITH THE AFRICAN COME UP.

HELLO I'M PAUL MILOSEVIC WITH INTEGRATED SENIOR LIVING IN 31 10 WEST SOUTH LAKE BOULEVARD IN SOUTH LAKE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT, MAYOR AND COUNCIL JUST LIKE TO MAKE A SHORT PRESENTATION ADDRESSED SOME OF THE ISSUES RAISED BY STAFF AND, UH, ALSO ADDRESSED SOME OF THE CONCERNS WE HEARD FROM THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS AND THEN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS DURING MY PRESENTATION, PLEASE STOP ME AND

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JUST ASK AWAY. WE'VE BEEN IN THE SENIOR HOUSING BUSINESS FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS WE'VE BUILT OVER 5000 UNITS OF SENIOR HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE STATE. WE CURRENTLY HAVE THREE COMMUNITIES UNDER CONSTRUCTION TO HERE IN THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA AND INDEPENDENT LIVING WATER MIRROR, FLOWER MOUND AND WATER MIRROR AT PRESERVE, WHICH IS ON THE BORDER OF COLLEYVILLE KELLER IN NORTH RICHLAND HILLS. WE'VE ALSO HAVE A PROJECT UNDER CONSTRUCTION ADJACENT TO THE WOODLANDS IN HOUSTON. I THINK YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE AT VIRGINIA AND HARDEN ONE THING TO POINT OUT HERE ON THIS PICTURE IS ROUGHLY THE. THE 4TH AND 40% OF THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SITE THAT'S ADJACENT TO BONNIE WINK PARK IN THE CITY PARKING TRAIL SYSTEM WILL REMAIN IN ITS NATURAL STATE HAS FLOODPLAIN AND YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THE SITE PLAN. HERE IN A SECOND. I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE COMMERCIAL ZONING ON ON THE CORNER. AS MISS ARNOLD SAID. THIS IS OWN COMMERCIAL. UT OUT THAT. IN THE CITY IF WE DO IT TWO MILE RADIUS AROUND THIS SITE, AND THERE'S ALMOST 2.3 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF EXISTING COMMERCIAL JUST IN THAT SMALL RADIUS, AND YOU CAN SEE IT DOESN'T INCLUDE MANY OF YOUR MAJOR INTERSECTIONS THAT CAPTURES A FEW OF THEM. AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE HEARD IN PNC COMMENTS FROM NEIGHBORS AND RESIDENTS. IS THE TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE GENERATED BY ARE USED. AND HERE. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT IF YOU I THINK I CAN DO THIS CORRECTLY. REMEMBER FROM LAST TIME IF YOU LOOK AT HERE, JUST A SINGLE FAST FOOD RESTAURANT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S YOUR MORNING. AND AFTERNOON DRIVE TIMES. WE'RE DOING THE SENIOR ADULT MULTI FAMILY. YOU KNOW? TWO THIRDS LESS. ON MORNING TRAFFIC COUNTS AND 50% LESS ON AFTERNOON TRAFFIC COUNTS AND AGAIN THE REASON FOR THAT THESE ARE ALL FROM TRAFFIC ENGINEERS AND STUDIES. THE AVERAGE AGE OF OUR RESIDENTS IS 82 YEARS OLD, SO THEY DON'T WORK. WE SERVE BREAKFAST EVERY DAY IN OUR COMMUNITY, SO THEIR THEIR HOME MOST DAYS AND THEY'RE NOT OUT, COMMUTING TO AND FROM WORK OR GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE OR ELSE OR WE ALSO HAVE TRANSPORTATION OF BUS. IN OUR COMMUNITIES IN ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES, AND MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS WERE USED TO BUS TO GO TO AT THE GROCERY STORE TO THEIR DOCTOR'S OFFICE OR TO THE PHARMACY. ANOTHER CONCERN THAT CAME UP AND I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY ADDRESS IS THE FACT THAT THERE IS SOME SENIOR HOUSING UNDER CONSTRUCTION. ACROSS THE STREET ACROSS HARDEN WITH TOUCH MARK AND REALLY, I WANTED TO TOUCH MARK IS A WONDERFUL PROJECT IN MCKINNEY IS VERY LUCKY TO HAVE HAVE IT. IT'S GOING TO BE A TREMENDOUS COMMUNITY WHEN IT'S FINISHED.

THEY'RE REALLY AT THE VERY, VERY PINNACLE OF THE PYRAMID IF YOU WILL, AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME PRICING HERE IN A SECOND. AND IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR TYPICAL. SENIOR HOUSING INDEPENDENT LIVING INCLUDES HOUSEKEEPING AND MEALS. THE WAY WE DIFFERENTIATE OURSELVES IS THAT WE MAKE THOSE OPTIONAL. WE INCLUDE BREAKFAST IN FIVE LUNCHES A MONTH. AND ONE HOUSEKEEPING VISIT. AND. THEN WE LET RESIDENTS CHOOSE THEIR OWN MEAL AND HOUSEKEEPING PLAYING, AND WE EVEN ALLOW RESIDENTS TO NOT TAKE ANY OF THOSE SERVICES IF THEY DON'T WANT IT RIGHT, BECAUSE MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE STILL INDEPENDENT. AND THEREFORE. IF YOU LOOK AT CLEARLY. SO HERE AGAIN TO, UM.

HIGHLIGHT WHAT I MENTIONED ABOUT TOUCH MARK BEING A WONDERFUL PROJECT OUR RENT. WILL BE ROUGHLY 40% OF WHAT THE PROJECTED TOUCH MARK. RENTS ARE GOING TO BE AND AGAIN. WE DON'T KNOW THOSE ARE THOSE ARE FROM THEIR OKLAHOMA CITY PROJECT. WHICH WAS BUILT 20 YEARS AGO.

AND ALSO WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT HERE IN MCKINNEY. UHH FOR RESIDENTS. 65 OLDER, THE

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MEDIAN INCOME IS 65,000. DOLLARS. AND THE TOUCH MARK PROJECT WILL THEREFORE ONLY APPEAL TO THE VERY TOP. PEOPLE WHO EXCEED THAT MEDIAN. THE RENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY WILL REALLY HIT THE MID SECTION OF THE TYPICAL MCKINNEY OR CALLING THE COUNTY SENIOR RESIDENT. AND HERE I'VE REALLY COVERED THIS. THE TOP THREE LINES REALLY HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT MOST.

SENIOR INDEPENDENT LIVING OFFERED TWO MEALS A DAY AND ONE CLEAN A WEEK. WE LIMIT THAT AND LET THE RESIDENT CHOOSE. AND IT'S BEEN A VERY SUCCESSFUL MODEL THROUGHOUT THE THROUGHOUT THE STATE. I THINK JENNIFER MENTIONED THAT. I THINK I HEARD CORRECTLY THAT WE DO COMPLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I JUST WANTED TO PULL TWO QUOTES OUT OF THERE WERE IN THE ESTABLISHED COMMUNITY DISTRICT RIGHT HERE IN THE HEART OF MCKINNEY, AS YOU ALL KNOW, AND IN THE FIRST QUOTE RIGHT FROM PAGE 1 49. THAT ANY ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT HERE SHOULD COMPLEMENT RATHER THAN COMPETE WITH THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY . AND WHY WE REALLY. PREFER TO COME INTO ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THIS IS THAT ALL THE RESIDENTS AROUND US HAS THEIR PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, AUNTS AND UNCLES AGE AND THEY NEED CARE. WE'RE GOING TO BE THE FIRST CHOICE BECAUSE JUST AS ONE OF THE PREVIOUS APPLICANTS, SAID BEING ABLE TO, UH WALK OR MAKE A VERY SHORT DRIVE TO GO VISIT YOUR MOM AND DAD VERSUS HAVING TO KIND OF SLIP ALL OVER TOWN IS A HUGE CONSIDERATION. AND SO WE REALLY THINK THIS TRULY WILL COMPLEMENT YOUR EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY. AND THEN THE LAST POINT THERE IS THAT UM. TO DIVERSIFY AND STRENGTHEN YOUR EXISTING RESIDENTIAL MARKET RATE, MULTI FAMILY OR OTHER URBAN RESIDENTIAL USES ARE RECOMMENDED IN, UM WE CERTAINLY FIT IN THE OTHER URBAN RESIDENTIAL USE CATEGORY. HERE JUST A FEW SAMPLE PICTURES OF SOME OF OUR OTHER COMMUNITIES. I REALLY WANT YOU TO FOCUS ON THE ONE IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER, WHICH IS OUR MANSFIELD COMMUNITY BUILT ABOUT A DOZEN YEARS AGO, AND THERE ARE JUST I REALLY WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE LIKE I JUST SAID, WE WENT RIGHT INTO THE MIDDLE OF AN EXISTING COMMUNITY. WE WERE INVITED BY THE CITY THERE. THEY HAD A SEVERE LACK OF INDEPENDENT LIVING. WE ALSO BUILT ASSISTED LIVING AND MEMORY CARE. AND WE FOUND THIS SITE. AGAIN AN INFILL SITE, AND, UH, WE WERE WELL RECEIVED BY THE COMMUNITY BEFOREHAND AND EVEN BETTER RECEIVED AFTERWARDS. ONCE IT WAS BUILT, AND THEY SAW HOW WELL WE FIT INTO THE COMMUNITY. HERE ARE JUST SOME PICTURES FROM ALL OF OUR OTHER WATER MIRROR AND WATERCRESS COMMUNITIES, ONE OF THE NOTABLE THINGS WE DO IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER. HAS BUILT A POOL THAT'S COMPLETELY COVERED AND ENCLOSED SO THAT IT CAN BE A YEAR ROUND POOL. IT'S HEATED 80 DEGREES. WE HAVE WATER AEROBICS CLASSES EVERY WEEK. WE HAVE FITNESS FACILITIES IN ALL OF OUR SENIOR COMMUNITIES, AND THEY DO GET USED AND WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT INTERIOR AMENITIES. AND. THE BIGGEST AMENITY IF YOU WILL HAVE HIGHLIGHTED. THIS IS THE DINING ROOM, THE COMMERCIAL KITCHEN AND THIS THESE ARE ALL PICTURES FROM WATER. MERE FRISCO, WHICH, UM SOME OF THE FOLKS IN THE NEARBY NEIGHBORHOODS CAME TO VISIT US THIS PAST SUNDAY. AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE PLAN TO BUILD HERE IN MCKINNEY, IF WE'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET PROOF HERE'S THE SITE PLAN. AND.

JENNIFER HIGHLIGHTED A COUPLE THINGS EARLIER. AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW BASED ON OUR MEETINGS WITH THE HOMEOWNERS AND THE OAS TO THE SOUTH. WE'RE GOING TO PUT UP WE'VE AGREED TO PUT RIGHT ALONG 30 FT. INSIDE THE PROPERTY LINE ALONG THIS RETAINING WALL. WE'RE GOING TO PUT A FIVE FT.

SOLID SCREEN WALL, TOO. AND LET ME JUST SHOW YOU THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THAT. SOUTHERN SIDE. THERE'S ALREADY WE'RE GOING TO KEEP A 30 FT BUFFER OF EXISTING TREES. THAT'S A REAL PICTURE, AND ALL WE'VE DONE IS SUPERIMPOSED ARE BUILDING ON THE BACK. SO ON THE BACK SIDE OF

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THOSE TREES ON OUR SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD. THE FIVE FT WALL AGAIN TO PREVENT ANY HEADLIGHTS FROM FROM COMING ACROSS FROM REALLY BEING ABLE TO SEE ANY PART OF THE LOWER PART OF THE BUILDING. AND THEN THE OTHER THING WE'VE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS IN THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE. WE DON'T HAVE IT ON THIS PLAN, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN UPDATED PLAN IN THIS FLASH DRIVE. WEEK. WE, UM. PLAN TO BUILD WALKING TRAIL AS I MENTIONED IN THIS 40% OF THE SITE. WITH A COUPLE RESTING SPOTS. FOR OUR RESIDENTS. AND IT WILL TIE IN RIGHT THERE, AND THE NEIGHBORS HAVE ASKED. HEY, IF YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE SUBDIVISION HERE IF YOU CAN LEAVE US A STUFF. RIGHT WHERE IN THE FUTURE WE COULD CONNECT TO THAT IF WE CAN, IF THEY CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY AND BUILD A SIDEWALK TO CONNECT, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. I MEAN, WE. WE EXPECT THAT TO BE. COMMUNITY AMENITY. AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS. WE PLAN TO DO. JENNIFER MENTIONED JUST THE FINAL POINT. YOU SAW THE TREES.

IN THE PREVIOUS. THERE ARE SOME GAPS IN THIS AND THE NEIGHBORS HAVE POINTED IT OUT. NOT IN THIS PARTICULAR PICTURE, BUT THERE ARE GAPS AND SO IN ABOVE AND BEYOND THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPING.

WE'RE GONNA FILL IN AND WE SAW ONE OF THEM. WE'RE GOING TO FILL IN THE GAPS. IN THAT 30 FT BUFFER. THESE ARE REALLY TALKING WITH YOUR CITY ARBORIST TODAY ON A CONFERENCE CALLED THOSE ARE ROUGHLY THE THREE AREAS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT ADDITIONAL TREES ABOVE AND BEYOND THE REQUIREMENT. TO FILL IN THE GAPS IF YOU WILL, AND TRULY CREATE A SOLID 30 FT VEGETATIVE SCREEN.

HERE'S THE BUILDING FROM VIRGINIA AND HARDEN. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE WITH THIS SITE IS THAT IT FALLS 40 FT FROM HARDENED ROAD DOWN TO THE FLOODPLAIN. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW THE BUILDING STEPS DOWN. THIS RENDERING WE. THE FIRST FLOOR THAT YOU SEE THERE RIGHT BEHIND THE FLOWERS. IF YOU WILL, TO THE RIGHT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE NINE FT. BELOW HARDENED BOULEVARD, SO YOU REALLY WON'T SEE THAT DRIVE OR THE PARKING AREA THERE. BUT IT'S NOT REALLY FAIR TO TRY TO SHOW THAT WE WOULD ELIMINATE THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING, SO WE WANT TO SHOW THE FULL FOUR FLOORS. BUT IT WILL REALLY BE. SAT DOWN FROM HARDEN, AND THEN IT WILL CONTINUE TO STEP DOWN THE REST OF THE WAY TO THE FLOODPLAIN. AND. THERE YOU CAN SEE HOW THE BUILDING RATCHETS DOWN AS IT COMES DOWN THE HILL. AND WE'RE REALLY ABLE TO BENEFIT FROM THE EXISTING TREE SCREENING THERE. WITH THAT. THE LAST SLIDE I HAVE HERE IS A JUST A VIDEO SHORT VIDEO FROM TWO OF OUR RESIDENTS. IN OUR WATER MIRROR MCKINNEY PROJECT SO IF YOU'LL INDULGE ME, OH, PLAY THAT AND THEN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. REFORM SELENA RELIGION SLAUGHTERED FOR MANY YEARS, MOST OF OUR CITIES AND MCKINNEY VERY CONSTANT VISITORS TO THE BEGINNING. GOOD YES. YEAH SIZE, BUT WE DO THAT LATER GOING TO HAVE STUFF SO WE BEGAN TO RUN AND YOU LOOKED AT MCKINNEY WANTED FOR HERSELF VERY NICELY. BUT YOU DIDN'T WELL, ONE WHAT WE FOUND IN THE WATER. OH SENIOR, SAID THAT SO MUCH. IT'S WONDERFUL APARTMENTS, FOOD ACTUALLY BEYOND YOUR EXPECTATIONS. BEYOND ALL OF THESE CHALLENGES THIS PLACES IN FRISCO. AND I REALLY WHITE WHITE WORLD IS LOCATED HERE. CAN'T LET'S FROM MY FRIENDS ARE THAT'S FROM THE SENIOR CENTER IS THAT'S FROM MY DOCTORS ARE MY WORLD WAS IN THE KITCHEN. WE REGRET THE WHOLE KILLING FIRST. TRUCKEE WE SPOKE TO YOUR BOARD AROUND THE CENTER OF THE LIFESTYLE. I'M SERIOUS. I'M RUDY, LISTEN HERE.

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WHAT ARE IMMUNE TO MY WIFE PASSED AWAY ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. WE SHOULD PASSED AWAY.

IT WAS TIME FOR ME TO START REEVALUATING WEIGHT OPTIONS. WHAT DID I WANT TO DO? AH HAD A 47 100 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE AND ALAN I LOVED IT, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE UNNECESSARY BURDEN EVEN AND ALAN REALLY WANTED TO STAY IN THAT AREA MOVED TO TEXAS 12 YEARS AGO, AND THAT'S WHERE WE LIVED. WE BUILD THAT HOUSE AND LIVED THERE ALL THE TIME. ALL MY DOCTORS HAVE MADE THAT AREA ALL MY FRIENDS, FAVORITE RESTAURANTS ALONG 75. I REALLY LIKED THE IDEA. I LOOKED AT WITH JEANNIE AND ALLEN AND SAID, AND I DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING THAT MET. MY CRITERIA PLACES THEY'RE JUST PUT IT IS WITH THEM. THEY MIGHT BE FINE FACILITIES, BUT THERE WILL NATURALLY BE. I WASN'T GOING TO DOWNSIZE FROM 4700 SQUARE FEET, 700, THE ONLY OTHER PLACES WHERE IT WAS FINE, SIMILAR TYPE OF FLOOR PLAN WILL DISCONTINUE COMMUNITY'S HUGE BY CAUTION IS BEST. I LOOKED AT. I DON'T KNOW MAYBE 14 15 DIFFERENT PLACES AND ALAN CIVILIAN MCKINNEY AREA AND THEN I STARTED LOOKING OUTSIDE.

I DON'T THINK FISH FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PLACE IN THREE SCHOOL A FEW OVER IN DOLLARS, LOOKING FOR GREAT IN LOW AND KNEW IT WASN'T GONNA HAPPEN TO WARM MIRROR. I FOUND THE RIGHT FOR PLAN TO REALLY LOVE THE ENVIRONMENT. I REALLY LOVE IT, BUT I WISH HE WAS CLOSER. THE WAREHOUSE RELIGIONS MCKINNEY OR ALAN. AGAIN THREE SCHOOLS PRETTY MUCH THE LIMIT OF WHERE I WAS WILLING TO GO. LET'S SAY YOU PICK UP WATER MIRROR AND PUT IT SOMEWHERE IN MCKINNEY DIFFERENTLY, WHATEVER. EVEN HIGHER ON THE LIST WHEN IT'S IN FRISCO. THANKS, SIR. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. SAYS THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM. WHEN YOU COME UP. HOW WOULD YOU HAVE A LIST? HOLD ON A SECOND. IF YOU WOULD GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. OKAY. MY NAME IS MICHELLE WOODARD. UM, I LIVE AT 333 TOTTENHAM COURT. I LIVE IN THE. AREA THAT IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPOSED PROJECT. I WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT BEING LIVING THAT CLOSE TO IT FOR MANY REASONS, AS THE APPLICANT ID STATED, WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC THERE AS IT IS. AND WE ARE OF THE OPINION THAT YOU KNOW? NO ONE WANTS TO LIVE BEHIND COMMERCIAL UNLESS THEY HAVE TO, UM, WITH THE TRAFFIC. THE RESTAURANT SMELLS I OFTEN, UM, RAN TOWARD EL DORADO AND THE CLOSER I GET TO ELDORADO. THAT'S WHAT I SMELL AND THE TRAFFIC IS ENORMOUS. THERE. UM. YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS KNEW THAT THIS WAS GOING TO DEVELOPED. EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT, UM, THAT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN FAVOR OF ANYTHING BUT COMMERCIAL. FOR THAT REASON. I THINK THE PROJECT IS COMING GREAT. NOT FOR JUST THAT CORNER. BUT FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT AS WELL, ESPECIALLY WITH THE EXTRA WALKING TRAILS. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT, IF IT IF THIS PROPOSAL IS ACCEPTED UM. I JUST WANT, UM I COMPLETELY RESPECT THOSE THAT ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT. I THINK THERE OPINIONS CERTAINLY NEED TO BE HEARD. BUT I JUST WANT TO REACH OUT TO COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR TO PLEASE PLEASE CONSIDER THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THE CLOSEST TO THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. UM I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES THAT ARE AFFECTED THE MOST.

AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MARK SCHROEDER. MY NAME IS MARK SCHROEDER AND I LIVE AT FORD HALL, PRESIDENT CREEK DRIVING MCKINNEY. I LIVE SEVEN OR 50 FT . SOUTH OF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. HAVE BEEN SOLVED PARK AND I'M A BOARD MEMBER OF THE SOVIET PARK AGE AWAY. I OPPOSED THIS PROJECT FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS. PROPOSED APARTMENT COMPLEXES FAR DO TOLL FOR THE SURROUNDING GEOGRAPHY.

THE LOCATION IS THE HIGHEST POINT OF THE EAST SIDE OF THE CORNER OF HARDENED AND VIRGINIA.

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THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WALMART NORTH IS IN A DEPRESSION AS HIS SWORD WOULD TERRORISM MERELY SELF FOUR AND FIVE STORY BUILDING WOULD OVERWHELM THE SURROUNDINGS. PRIEST RESIDENCES. AND BUSINESSES AND TOWER OVER TWO STORIES ABOVE THE REMAINING TREELINE. CONSTANTLY VISIBLE TO ALL. AS YOU'VE HEARD, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF DID NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL, IN PART DUE TO THE OVER SATURATION OF INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITIES IN THIS AREA. THE TOUCH PARK COMPLEX IMMEDIATELY SOUTHWEST OF THIS PROJECT, ALSO 4 TO 5 STORY BUILDING COMPLEX, ALBEIT ON A HILLSIDE. CONTINUING TO BUILD SIMILAR BUILDINGS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD WOULD DRASTICALLY ALTER THE RESIDENTIAL NATURE OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. ADDITIONALLY, HARDENED WOULD BECOME A CANYON. THIS PROPOSAL IS SIMILAR TO THE TABLE AND WITHDRAWN DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PROPERTY ONE YEAR AGO, NOT THE SAME, BUT IT HAS MANY OF THE SAME PROBLEMS. AND IT'S EVEN A FLOOR HIGHER. IT WAS A BAD IDEA. BAD IDEA, THEN. FOR THIS SITE. IT'S A BAD IDEA NOW. THERE IS NO GUARANTEE IS IF THIS COMMERCIAL ENDEAVOR WAS SOLD, FORECLOSED UPON THAT IT WOULD REMAIN AN INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY. MOST LIKELY WOULD CONVERT TO A MULTI FAMILY APARTMENT. WITH THE QUESTION OF FINANCIAL UNDERPINNING. ADDITIONALLY THIS COULD HAVE ALL THE ASSOCIATE NOISE TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT THE PREVIOUS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT HAD. FOR WHICH IT HAD TROUBLE GAINING SUPPORT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. THIS PARTICULAR. DEVELOPMENT HOWEVER, TRAFFIC IS NOT THE ISSUE WITH THIS. THIS PROPERTY WAS OWNED COMMERCIAL IS PART OF THE MCKINNEY MASTER PLAN, AND I BELIEVE SHOULD REMAIN THAT WAY. THIS CURRENT DEVELOPMENT TRIES TO MAKE THE CASE THAT THE PROPERTY IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT DUE TO THE GRAVE, BUT THAT CHARGE IS COUNTERED BY THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY DIRECTLY WEST OF IT, WHICH HAS THE SAME GREAT CONCERNS. GIVEN THE ADVENT OF THE TOUCH WORK DEVELOPMENT, I BELIEVE WOULD BE MORE PRUDENT TO ALLOW POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS THAT TIME TO REALIZE THE BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY PRESENTED BY HAVING A FACILITY LIKE TOUCH WORK WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE.

BUSINESSES CATERING TO THE CUSTOMER BASE WOULD BE IT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS WALL. DOCTORS MEDICAL SPECIALIST SERVICES AND OTHER COMMERCIAL ENTITIES, NOT THE CONSTANT. MM, PRESENTED EITHER A GAS STATION OR FAST FOOD OUTLET. WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE AREA. FINALLY AS A BOARD MEMBER OF CENTRAL PARK. I HAVE TWO MAIN RESPONSIBILITIES. ONE IS FIDUCIARY. THE OTHER IS THE MAINTENANCE OF THE PROPERTY VALUES. AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, I HAVE A DUTY TO ENSURE ITS PROTECTION. FROM UNWISE DEVELOPMENT. FOR THESE REASONS, AND THE REASONS I'VE STATED TONIGHT AS OTHER BENEFIT MAJORITY COMMUNITY RESPONDED COMMITTEE URGED THE COUNCIL TO DENY IT, ESPECIALLY THANK YOU, SIR. BEFORE WE GO, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE A NOTE THAT THE PROPERTY OR PROJECT BEING PROPOSED MEETS THE CURRENT HEIGHT ALLOWANCES THAT ARE THERE SO IF THIS WOULD NOT TO BE REZONED MM. WHAT COMES IN NEXT? COULD COULD BE THE YOU KNOW THE SAME HEIGHT, SO THEY MEET THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS THAT THERE'S NOT A CHANGED IN THAT. JUST FOR THE RECORD, KAREN SOWARD'S OR SO WORDS. KAREN SOURED 6 25 SORROW ROAD. I UNDERSTAND THE 45 DEGREE OR 45 FT HEIGHT. ALLOWANCE FOR THIS ZONING AREA. BUT IT'S A MATTER OF MASS. IT'S NOT A MATTER OF HEIGHT. IT'S A MATTER OF RIGHT ON THAT CORNER BOOM 345 STORIES OF BUILDING ON THAT CORNER. WHICH IS SURROUNDED BY PARKS SOME OF THE BEST, UH, HUGE , BONNIE WINK PARK IS I MEAN, IT'S A DIVINE LITTLE AREA. AND THIS WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE PLACEMENT. MAYBE ON AND I REALLY I LOVE YOUR PRODUCT. OR DID. BUT NOT ON THAT CORNER. NOT ON THAT MASS. NOT ON THE FOUR STORIES AND THE PICTURES THAT ARE SHOWN WITH THE TREE LINE. JUST PEEKING. ONE STORY UP. THAT'S NOT THE CURRENT IT MAYBE IN 15 YEARS OF TREE LINE. WOULD HIT THAT THOSE THE BOTTOM OF THE TOP FLOOR. BUT IT'S NOT NOW WHAT WOULD BE SEEN. IT WOULD TAKE A LONG TIME FOR THOSE TREES TO GET UP THAT HIGH TO BLOCK AND PROTECT THE PRIVACY OF THE OWNERS. BUT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT DEVELOPMENT AT THE CORNER OF 6 35 IN DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY RIGHT ON A CORNER. UNTIL THAT BLOCK UP. BUT IT'S NOT IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. AND I ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT IN THE

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ORDINANCE, I READ THAT THERE'S NO UH WE LOVE THE LITTLE EUPHEMISM TO GET THE S U. P IS THE INDEPENDENT LIVING I GET THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY ANYWHERE IN THEIR AGE CRITERIA OR REFERENCE. SO IN SAN FRANCISCO, THEY HAVE WHAT THEY CALL INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITIES. THAT THE GOVERNMENT PAYS FOR PAYS THE RENT ON AND IT'S NOT FOR THE TARGET AUDIENCE THAT THIS MAN IS SPEAKING OF, AND. THAT ALSO WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD . I THINK, UH, I THINK IF SOMEONE WANTS US INDEPENDENT, LIVING SENIOR LIVING SITUATION THERE'S 350. 100 BEDS ACROSS THE STREET THAT THEY CAN PICK FROM IN TOUCH MARK. AND UH, I LOVED THE MARKS COMMENT ABOUT AND IT'S IF I WERE IN THE BUSINESS. I WOULD HAVE AND MAYBE MY SISTER WOULD OPEN PALLIATIVE CARE, DOCTOR, UH, THAT WOULD BE A PERFECT LOCATION TO HAVE AN OFFICE CLOSE TO THE 3500 FACILITY. PATIENT SO THANK YOU. I WISH YOU WOULD HAVE VOTED AGAINST IT. THIS PLANNING ZONING VOTE WAS OPPOSED TO IT AS WELL HONORED THERE. PROFESSIONAL ANALYSIS. THANK THANK YOU. RENE CABEZA. MY NAME IS RENEE CABEZA . I LIVE AT 27 44 ALL GONNA DRIVE. I'LL START OFF AS SAYING THAT IN ALL HONESTY, BY THE WAY , THANK YOU ALL COUNCIL PEOPLE FOR LISTENING ON THIS ISSUE. I BELIEVE A C TWO ZONING COMMERCIAL ZONING WAS PROPERLY.

DESIGNATED FOR THIS AREA BACK IN 2018. IT ALLOWS WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THAT WHOLE QUADRANT. ONE STORY. FRONT STORE FRONT TYPE OF BUSINESSES. NOTHING ABOVE ONE STORY. SO TO BRING IN SOMETHING AS TALL AS THIS WOULD BE WOULD JUST NOT BE IN SYNC WITH THE REST OF THAT. QUADRANT. THE OTHER THING I LIKE TO MENTION IS THE FAMILY UNIT OR THE SENIOR LIVING THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

AT FIVE STORIES SHE JUST GOT THROUGH MENTIONING YOU'RE LITERALLY AT THE VERY TOP OF THE HIGHEST POINT OF THAT. INTERSECTION. AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT IN ALL HONESTY TO ME A BUILDING THAT'S GOING TO HAVE WINDOWS ON BOTH THE BACK AND THE FRONT. WE'RE IN ONE STORY, STOREFRONT TYPE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS WOULD ALL BE FACING OUT TOWARDS VIRGINIA. SO YOU DON'T HAVE THAT EXPOSURE FROM AN UPSTAIRS WINDOW ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE BUILDING, LOOKING DOWN OVER SEVERAL WHICH IS A VERY PLEASANT NEIGHBORHOOD AND BE A REAL SHAME TO HAVE THAT LOOKING OVER THEIR BACKYARDS EVERY DAY. THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO MENTION IS THAT THE FOOTPRINT ON THIS BUILDING IS EXCESSIVE. I MEAN, THIS HOUSE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE AND YOU'VE GOT NOTHING BUT CONCRETE ALL AROUND IT FOR ALL THE PARKING THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE. THERE'S GOING TO BE VERY LITTLE GREENERY, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF REMOVAL OF EXISTING TREES, AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM PART OF THE BEAUTY. THAT'S THERE NOW. AND UHH! YOU KNOW WHEN YOU FIRST THINK ABOUT THE PICTURE THAT I JUST SAW ON THAT VIDEO IT'S LIKE IT'S IN YOUR FACE. THE MINUTE YOU LOOK AT IT, IT REMINDS ME OF A DRIVE IN THEATER OR TO DRIVE IN AND THERE'S A SCREEN. RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE, AND YOU CAN'T MISS IT. I MEAN, IT'S THAT BIG. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THAT CORNER. EVERY TIME YOU GO UP TO IT, I HAPPENED TO DRIVE BY THAT CORNER ALMOST EVERY DAY AND I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S OTHER ISSUES THAT HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN BROUGHT UP.

THERE ARE TWO ENTRANCES INTO THAT PROJECT. ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO GO INTO HARDEN RIGHT NOW. TO GO FROM HARDENED TO VIRGINIA. YOU HAVE TO TURN RIGHT THERE IS A RIGHT LINE TO TURN OUT OF. GUESS WHAT THE STRAIGHT GOING. LANE BACKS UP SO FAR THAT YOU CAN GET INTO THE RIGHT TURNING LANE. NOW GO AHEAD AND ADD ANOTHER ENTRANCE FROM THAT SIDE. INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME SERIOUS ISSUES BECAUSE YOU WON'T HAVE LINKED TO TURN FROM SO THERE IS AN ISSUE THERE. THE THAT. I JUST ASKED. SERIOUSLY GIVE THIS SOME SERIOUS

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CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THIS IS JUST NOT A GOOD FIT. THAT CORNER IS NOT GOOD FOR THIS PROJECT.

NOT TO SAY THIS PROJECT WOULDN'T BE GOOD SOMEWHERE ELSE. I'M JUST SAYING THAT THIS IS NOT THE APPROPRIATE USE. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. GEORGE RUSSELL MORTENSEN. COUNCIL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS RUSS MORTENSEN. I LIVE AT 28 04 ALBANY DRIVE IN MCKINNEY. UM.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD BE SAID ABOUT THIS AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY STAND BEHIND. THE COMMENTS MADE FOR MRS SOURED AND MR CABEZA TONIGHT AND ALSO THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE AWAY. GROUP.

UM, I OPPOSE THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND BUT FOR PERHAPS A DIFFERENT SET OF REASONS OR ADDITIONAL SET OF REASONS. I'M KIND OF A SHOW ME A GUY FROM MISSOURI. SO I'D LIKE TO GO TO THINGS LIKE THE CODE OF ORDINANCES HERE IN MCKINNEY DANCE, START WITH IT. AND THERE'S A SECTION 1 46 DEATHS, 46 CALLED DEFINITIONS. AND THEN IT ITEM NUMBER 57 NUMBER THREE, BUT NUMBER 57. IS A DEFINITION OF INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY. WHICH MEANS A PRIVATE AGE AGE RESTRICTED FACILITY. NOWHERE TO BE FOUND IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE HERE. THAT PROVIDES ITS RESIDENTS COMMUNITY DINING. WITH ON SITE MEAL PREPARATION AND SERVICE. AND TRANSPORTATION SERVICES AND MAY ALSO INCLUDE BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO MEET HERE.

SOMETHING THAT PROVIDES MANDATORY. COMMUNITY DINING FACILITIES WITH ON SITE MEAL PREPARATION AND SERVICE AS WELL AS TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. SO THEN THEN I WANTED TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT WHAT IF THIS WERE ANOTHER REQUEST FOR JUST A BUNCH OF MULTI FAMILY APARTMENTS HERE? AND I WENT TO SECTION 1 46 79 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. WHICH THIS COUNCIL OR ITS PREDECESSORS PASSED AT SOME POINT AND IT DEFINES THREE DIFFERENT ZONING CATEGORIES. M F ONE M TWO AND M F THREE. M S THREE IS THE HIGHEST DENSITY OF THOSE AND IN IT, IT SAYS IN 1 46-81. THAT THIS IS DESIGNED TO PROVIDE FOR MODERATELY. TOO HIGH DENSITY, MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. CHARACTERIZED BY SMALLER SCALE BUILDINGS AND MORE OPEN SPACE. NOT PRESENT HERE.

THIS DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATELY LOCATED WITH DIRECT ACCESS TO MAJOR THIRD FAILS, CHECK THIS DISTRICT PERMITS THREE STORY APARTMENTS. FOUR PLEX IS AND DUPLEXES. SO END OF STORY. NOW.

THIS IS CURRENTLY ZONED ONLY THREE YEARS AGO. SO YOU TWO BY THIS COUNCIL. AND SEE TO SAYS LOCAL COMMERCIAL ZONE IS DESIGNED TO PROVIDE FOR MEDIUM INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USES. WHICH ARE TYPICALLY LOCATED WHERE ARE ARTERIAL ROADS INTERSECT WITH OTHER ARTERIAL ROADS? CHECK SO I'M OUT OF TIME. I ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL. TO LOOK AT THIS TABLE OF USES. LOOK AT THE PERMITTED AND THE. SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THINGS. LOOK AT THE CHART THAT THIS GENTLEMAN PUT UP. I LIKED HIS PRODUCT TO BUT NOT ON THIS TRACK. THANK YOU. I HOPE YOU LIKE THIS. GOSH, I DON'T SHOW ANYBODY ELSE'S OR ANYONE ELSE HAS SIGNED UP. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT DID NOT SIGN UP THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? YES, MA'AM. JET COME UP. THROUGH. BACK AGAIN. MAYOR FULLER CITY COUNCIL AT FIRST JOY WOULD JOYCE SORREL WOULD SOLVE WOULD PARK 6 20 CREEK DRIVE? AND FIRST WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL RECOGNIZING FRED FRAZIER FOR A WONDERFUL MAN AND THE PLAQUE THAT YOU GAVE HIM AND HE DEFINITELY HAS MY SUPPORT. BUT I AM HERE AGAIN TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSAL FOR THIS, UH, IT SAYS IN OUR NOTES HERE, INDEPENDENT LIVING AND I NOTICED ALL THESE RESIDENTS FROM SORROW WOULD PART THAT MENTIONED. YOU KNOW, YOU LEFT OUT THE WORD SENIOR LEFT

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OUT THE WORD INTEGRATED. YOU JUST PUT INDEPENDENT INDEPENDENT . IT CAN BE ANYONE YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS DONE ON PURPOSE ARE BECAUSE THIS MAN JUST RIPPED SOME OF THE STIPULATIONS THAT IT SHOULD BE IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A SENIOR LIVING PLACE THERE, AND YOU DIDN'T PUT SENIOR YOU JUST I'M TALKING ABOUT OUR NOTES HERE ON PAPER. ONE OF THE COMMENTS. I WANT TO MAKE. RAGGI S RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD. FROM WHERE I LIVE ABOUT 85 ACRES OVER THERE AND THAT TOUCH MARKS ON MY FAMILY'S PROPERTY. YEARS AGO. THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD 300 HOUSES OF HEARD, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A SYSTEM LIVING ON EACH SIDE OF THE LAKE. LET'S GO. BE TREMENDOUS. TREMENDOUS TRAFFIC ANYWAY. YOU LOOK AT IT COMING OUT ON HARDEN. I MEAN, IT'S JUST GONNA BE TREMENDOUS. AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER LIVING FACILITY DOWN THERE AT THE CORNER OF HARDEN AND VIRGINIA OUT. YOU SAY IT'S GOING TO BE A SMALLER FACILITY. OKAY, BUT SOME OF THESE SENIOR PEOPLE OUR AGE, 65 WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL BECAUSE I'M WAY PAST THAT MYSELF NOW, BUT THEY STILL DRIVE. THEY STILL DRIVE AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BODY WEIGHT PARK WHICH IS BEAUTIFUL. THE LADY CAME. I THINK SHE GAVE A MILLION DOLLARS TO HAVE THAT PARK BUILT. AND HOW ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING TO GET ACROSS VIRGINIA PARKWAY WITH ALL THE TRAFFIC? SOME CAN'T SEE YOU KNOW THE WALK. YOU KNOW, I'M JUST REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE DANGER THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE. MAYBE THEY COULD WALK UNDER VIRGINIA PARKWAY. THERE IS A WALK AWAY WITH YOUR GOLF COURSE AND THERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, BUT I MEAN, IF THEY'RE ABLE TO WALK, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STAY IN THEIR APARTMENTS. YOU KNOW, PRETTY DAY LIKE WE HAD TODAY. THEY WANT TO GET OUT AND YOU'VE GOT NEIGHBORHOOD WALMART RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT TRAFFIC SIGNALS THERE , BUT I MEAN, MAYBE THEY DON'T SEE IT AND WALK OUT THERE. SO THAT IS A VERY HIGHLY CONGESTED TRAFFIC AREA WHERE YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT BUILDING THIS. THIS AREA HERE, AND I JUST WISH A LOT OF WORK CONSIDERATION WOULD BE GIVEN TO IT. AND A VERY GOOD POINT THAT THESE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE MADE IT WHAT THEY WANT TO BUILD THIS ON THE HIGHEST. PEAK I MEAN, IT'S THE HIGHEST POINT. IT'S JUST LIKE YOU LOOK AT IT. IT'S JUST GONNA IT'S JUST IT'S JUST SURROUNDS EVERYTHING YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST IT'S HUGE. IT'S JUST HUGE AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE AWAY A LOT OF THE SCENERY THAT WE WOULD APPRECIATE HER THAT WE DO APPRECIATE. SO I HAD MENTIONED SOME OF THIS TIME BEFORE, UM, TALKING ABOUT YOU BUILD SOME MORE TREES. YOU KNOW, IT TAKES 60 YEARS FOR A TREE TO REACHES FALL HARD 60 YEARS. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PLANT TREES THAT ARE GOING TO GET A PILE WITH THAT FENCE. YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD IT'S GOING TO TAKE PEOPLE THERE. LIVING IN THAT SORROW WOULD TERRORISTS BEHIND IT? GOING TO TAKE SEVERAL YEARS. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE OVER THERE UNLESS YOU COME IN THERE WITH, YOU KNOW, 20 FT TREES. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA BUILD IT. PUT PLANT THOSE. BUT IF YOU BRING THOSE LITTLE TREES IN THERE, LIKE MOST PEOPLE DO WHEN YOU'RE DEVELOPING SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW YOU'RE FOOLING PEOPLE THINK YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE ANYTHING. JUST YOU KNOW THE ROOFTOPS, SO THOSE ARE SOME CONSIDERATION. ANOTHER FLORIDA IS GOING TO MENTION HERE. YOUR TIME IS UP MY CAPSULE. OKAY WELL, I HOPE YOU GIVE MY CONSIDERATION TO IT AND I OPPOSE IT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE SO LET'S SPEAK TO THE. THEIR EMOTIONAL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING A COMMOTION THAT WE'VE COVERED CALLS UPON CLEARING SECOND. CASTRO VOTES. JENNIFER, COULD YOU COME UP? I HAVE SOME CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, PLEASE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S YOU KNOW WE'RE DEALING WITH, UM FACTS CORRECTLY. SO THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT BY SOMEBODY. ABOUT ONE STORY IS THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. RESTRICT THE DEVELOPMENT ON THAT TRACK TO ONE STORY RETAIL? NO DOES THE CURRENT PROJECT MEET THE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS OF THE CURRENT ZONING BASED ON THE INFORMATIONAL EXHIBIT? WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED. YES, YES. UM WOULD SO ANY. IF THIS ISN'T PASSED, ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT COULD COME IN WITH ARGUABLY THE SAME ELEVATIONS. THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED OFFICE BUILDINGS, GEORGE WHATEVER THAT'S CORRECT.

UM THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT TREES. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL TREES IN THIS PROPOSAL FOR THE CCP. SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS, BY THE WAY, I RHETORICAL. I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I WANTED TO HAVE A PUBLIC SURE. IS THERE ADDITIONAL TREES ARE BEING REMOVED FROM THIS SITE THAT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE REMOVED . IF THIS WASN'T PASSED. A DIFFERENT PROJECT CAME IN. I BELIEVE I'M FOLLOWING YOUR QUESTION, BUT REGARDLESS OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT OCCURS ON THE SITE, THE TREES THAT COULD BE REMOVED WOULD BE THE SAME. IT'S BASED ON THE FOOTPRINT OF THE DEVELOPMENT, NOT THE USE. BUT IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO PUT IN ADDITIONAL

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TREES THAT ARE ABOVE AND BEYOND REQUIREMENT. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THERE SO APPLES, APPLES. IF NO DEVELOPMENT COMMAND THEY COULD THE SAME AMOUNT OF TREES WOULD BE REMOVED BUT NOT NECESSARILY MORE PLANTED ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WAS REQUIRED BEING PROPOSED. UM IT WAS A TALK TRAFFIC CONSIDERATION. OF COURSE. FOR ME. THAT'S ONE OF THINGS I LIKE ABOUT THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT IS THE TRAFFIC. I THINK WOULD DON'T ANSWER THIS IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS OR YOU DON'T HAVE ANOTHER PROFESSIONAL OPINION ON IT. UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER. THANK YOU. BUT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHARTS UP ABOUT TRAFFIC AND ONE OF THE CHARTS WAS JUST A SINGLE FAST FOOD RESTAURANT GENERATING ABOUT 150 CARS IN THE AFTERNOON. UM AND THEN IT SHOWED THE TRAFFIC. EXPECTATION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. IS THAT CONSISTENT WITH TRAFFIC COUNTS IT YOU SEE AS WE AS WE MOVE THROUGH PROJECTS LIKE THIS , I'M SPEAKING A LITTLE BIT OUT OF TERM. BUT I WOULD SAY YES FROM FROM A COMMON SENSE PERSPECTIVE, THOSE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS ARE HIGH. VEHICULAR TRAVEL USES AND A RETIREMENT COMMUNITY OR EVEN APARTMENT COMPLEX IS GOING TO BE LESS THAN THAT. JUST BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES COMING IN AND OUT THERE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE JUST ONE FAST FOOD RESTAURANT. YEAH. IF THIS WAS DEVELOPED COMMERCIALLY , PROBABLY MANY A MIX OF ALL KINDS OF SO MM. IT WOULD IT BE THE OPINION THAT THAT JUST REGARDING THE TRAFFIC THAT THIS USE WOULD GENERATE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC? IF WE WERE, IF WE WERE TAKING GUESTS? THAT'S IT. THAT'S A BIG MR MERRILL ASKED THAT QUESTION. IF HE LEFT IT VACANT, IT WOULD HAVE BELIEVED TRAPPED AT LEAST VACANT. UM AND THEN THERE'S A DISCUSSION ABOUT ENTRANCE OFF OF HARDEN. IS IT REASONABLE TO ASSUME THAT MOST DEVELOPMENT THAT MIGHT GET PRESENTED? COMMERCIAL WILL HAVE TO HAVE THAT ENTRANCE THAT'S CORRECT, AND IT WILL HAVE TO MEET THE REQUIRED SPACING DISTANCES FROM THE INTERSECTION, ANOTHER DRIVEWAY OPENING. SO THE THINGS I'VE HEARD SO FAR TONIGHT, AT LEAST NOT NOT NECESSARY, ALL OF THEM. HEIGHT IS NOT DIFFERENT, NOT DIFFERENT IN REMOVAL OF TREES ACTUALLY INCREASED MANDATORIES, NOT INCREASING TRAFFIC OF ANYTHING, A DECREASE IN TRAFFIC. THE ENTRANCE OF HARDEN IS GOING TO HAPPEN REGARDLESS OF WHAT'S DEVELOPED THERE. UM THAT WOULD BE ACCURATE SPIRIT FAIR OFFER COMMENTS ACCURATE COMMENTS AND I HEARD ANOTHER. ANOTHER COMMENT WAS THAT THE 15 STORY PORTION WAS ON THE HIGHEST. PORTION I REMEMBER THAT BEING ON THE LOWEST PORTION IN MY WRONG AND MY RECOLLECTION SO THE PROPERTY IS BELOW THE STREET GRADE AT THE STREET OF VIRGINIA AND HARDENED, BUT IT DOES CONTINUE TO SLOPE DOWN. AS YOU GET TOWARDS THE TOWN HOME, SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE. I KNOW EXACTLY STORY ELEMENT THAT'S ON THE LOWER THAT'S NOT UP ON THE THAT'S NOT ON THE FARTHEST NORTH EAST CORNER OF THE THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS PREDOMINANTLY ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE TRACT ADJACENT OR CLOSER TO THOSE VILLAS AND THE FLAT PLANE. THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. I HAD. I HAD ONE QUESTION. THEY KEEP BRINGING UP THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW, IT'S A SENIOR LIVING, OKAY? IT IS A RESTRICTED, CORRECT, THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY? IS THERE ANY WAY THEY COULD CHANGE THEIR WITHOUT COMING BEFORE US? NO WE WOULD SO I BELIEVE ONE OF THE RESIDENTS READ THE DEFINITION OF INDEPENDENT LIVING, AND SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE RESTRICTED. THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE COMMUNITY DINING, AND THEY'D HAVE TO HAVE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE WHAT WE AS A STAFF WOULD LOOK AT TO BE ABLE TO APPROVE THE SITE PLAN TO SAY YES. YOU SAY YOU'RE INDEPENDENT LIVING, YOU'RE PROVIDING WHAT'S NECESSARY TO BE INDEPENDENT LIVING. IF IT WAS FOUND THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING ANY OF THOSE THINGS I E NOT RESTRICTED, THEY WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF WHATEVER WAS APPROVED. UM, AND IF THEY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING THAT WASN'T RESTRICTED, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH THAT PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS. BECAUSE AT THAT POINT, IT'S A DIFFERENT USE. RIGHT? OKAY.

THAT'S NOT CLEAR ABOUT THAT. AND I CAN I HAVE THE REPRESENTATIVE COME UP FROM THE COMPANY PLACE.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. HOW MANY OF YOUR OTHER PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN SOLD BECAUSE IT WASN'T A FINANCIALLY SOUND PROPERTY. HOW MANY OF YOUR OTHER SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES HAVE BEEN CLOSED FOR FINANCIAL PURPOSE? FINANCIAL REASONS? NONE NONE. OKAY HOW MANY OF YOUR OTHER PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN CONVERTED INTO STANDARD MULTI FAMILY? NONE. THANK YOU. OKAY? SO I JUST WANTED TO COVER A FEW THINGS AND I LIVE IN CENTRAL PARK AND I HAVE DONE THE BEST I CAN TO LISTEN TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. COUPLE OF THINGS I DO WANT TO ADDRESS. THIS IS NOT MULTI FAMILY AND I'VE HEARD THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. BUT THIS IS NOT MULTI FAMILY. THIS IS A SENIOR LIVING FACILITY. IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC. AND IT DOES SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE TRAFFIC FLOW. UM THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND

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ON THEIR OTHER PROPERTIES, A LOT OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT AVERAGE AGE IS ACTUALLY AROUND.

82. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY SO 82 IS AN OLDER NOW I KNOW THAT OTHERS HAVE MADE THE ARGUMENT THAT YOU KNOW THEY'RE CUT OFF IS 62. EVEN IF IT WERE 65. THAT'S STILL A DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC THAN SOMEONE LIVING IN A STANDARD MULTI FAMILY. DEVELOPMENT SO THAT TO ME IS NOT OF CONCERN. WHETHER IT'S 65 OR 82. IT REALLY IS NOT A CONCERN FOR ME. I'VE ALSO HEARD THAT YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPERS ARE TRYING TO SCARE PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN COME IN THERE AND IN ALL HONESTY WITHOUT COUNCIL APPROVAL, AND IT CAN BE WORSE. I WOULD NOT CALL THIS A SCARE TACTIC. I WOULD SAY THIS IS EDUCATION. SO WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE DENY THIS PROJECT, THE LIKELIHOOD OF ANOTHER COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WE DO NOT DESIRE CAN COME IN THERE AND WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY ZERO CONTROL. OVER WHAT IS BEING DONE THERE, SO I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE CANNOT DICTATE TO THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY OR WHOEVER DEVELOPS IT, WHETHER OR NOT THEY BUILD A ONE STORY OR TWO STORY DEVELOPMENT. SO EVEN IF WE DECLINE THIS, EVEN THOUGH OUR DESIRE IS FOR SOMETHING ON A MUCH SMALLER SCALE. THEY CAN GO AS LONG AS THEY MEET ALL OF WHAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAS ORDAINED FOR THEM TO MEET. IF THEY DO THAT, THEN WE HAVE NOTHING AS A COUNCIL TO LEVERAGE FOR AND NEGOTIATING PROCESSES. SO I DO WANT THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL. UM I DON'T THINK AND RESPECTFULLY I DISAGREE. I WOULD NOT WANT MY ELDERLY FAMILY MEMBER LIVING AT THE CORNER OF TWO HIGHWAYS. I WOULDN'T. I WANT THEM TO BE IN A SERENE ENVIRONMENT. I DON'T THINK THAT DOESN'T APPROPRIATE THING. IT'S BETTER FOR THEM TO BE SET BACK INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND QUIET COMMUNITY WHERE THEY CAN SAFELY GET AROUND, BUT ON THE CORNER OF A HIGHWAY, I THINK IT'S NOT A REASONABLE THING TO SUGGEST. UM THERE WAS A COMMENT. THIS WAS OWNED BY THIS COUNCIL. I THINK THREE OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS COUNCIL WAS NOT WERE NOT PRESENT . AT LEAST WHEN THIS WAS THIS PROPERTY WAS REZONED. BUT NOW THAT IT IS ON, WE CAN'T CLAW THAT BACK. THAT WOULD GET US INTO FINANCIAL ISSUES THAT THIS COUNCIL DOES NOT WANT TO GO INTO. OKAY SO THE ZONING IS WHAT IT IS. WE CAN'T CHANGE THAT AT THIS POINT, SO THE 45 FT IS WHAT IS GOING TO BE ALLOWED AT THIS POINT? NOW THAT BEING SAID I'VE MET AND I WANT TO THANK THE TEAM FROM WATER MIRROR. THEY WERE VERY KIND TO MEET WITH US ON SUPER BOWL SUNDAY. TO ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS, SO I DO APPRECIATE IT. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE PROJECT. I DO NOT LOVE IT ON THIS LOT. SO I AM GOING TO I'M NOT GOING TO BE IN SUPPORT OF IT IN THE SOLE REASON FOR IT, IN ALL HONESTY IS BECAUSE THE SORE WOULD TERRORIST COMMUNITY. IF YOU GO INTO THAT DOWN SLOPES AS YOU GET INTO THE COMMUNITY ON THAT NORTHERN END OF THAT. AND THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING, JUST AT THE SOUTHERN END OF WHICH IS MEETING THAT IS JUST A LOOMING BUILDING. THIS COMMUNITY WANTS TO TAKE THE CHANCE TO PASS ON THIS OFFER, AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM THE PRESIDENT'S, THEY'RE OKAY WITH ANOTHER COMMERCIAL BUILDING. THEY KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE 45 FT. PROBABLY PROBABLY. BUT HAVING THAT SCALE RIGHT THERE. AT THAT SLOPE MEETING WITHIN 50 FT. I THINK OF THE END OF THE STREET FOR SEVERAL TERRORISTS IS JUST TOO CLOSE FOR THEM. SO I AM GOING TO STAND IN ALLIANCE WITH THE COMMUNITY ON THAT ONE. BUT I HOPE THAT IF THIS PROJECT IS NOT APPROVED THAT YOU DON'T MOVE OUT OF MCKINNEY THAT YOU KEEP LOOKING AT WE OFFER OUR STAFF TO HELP YOU IN ANY WAY WE CAN, BUT THAT'S MY POSITION TODAY. THE COMETS. I'M LIKE COMMENT COMMENTED EARLIER THAT THERE ARE NO APARTMENTS OTHER THAN ONE ANCIENT APARTMENT COMPLEX ON VIRGINIA PARKWAY BETWEEN. LITERALLY GO OUT TO LIGHT FOREST. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T CARE IF YOU CALL THIS BY SOME FANCY FRENCH NAME, WHERE YOU CALL IT, SENIOR LIVING OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. IT'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, AND THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY'S GONNA SEE ON A HARD CORNER THAT WAS DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL. IT WAS DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL FOR A REASON. UM I DON'T SEE IT IN APPROPRIATE FIT THERE. I THINK YOU PROBABLY MAKE A NICE PRODUCT FOR THE AGED. PROBABLY NICE PLACE TO LIVE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT PLACE TO PUT IT IN MCKINNEY. THERE'S OTHER PLACES THAT CAN BE PUT AND I DON'T WANT TO LITTER THE BEAUTIFUL STREET VIRGINIA PARKWAY WITH APARTMENT COMPLEX IS NOT IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. SO I AM. OF. YOU KNOW, I

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DRIVE BY THIS MOST, YOU KNOW, HALF A DOZEN TIMES A WEEK AND I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED WHAT WOULD WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD FIT. I ACTUALLY LIKE THIS PROJECT. I THINK IT'S A VERY VIABLE SOLUTION. AND IT WOULD YOU KNOW THEY FILL UP REALLY FAST BECAUSE THERE'S A NEED FOR THIS KIND OF THEY'RE KIND OF SERVICE IS ALWAYS IT'S ALWAYS MOST PEOPLE WHO COME IN HERE AND. OBJECT TO THINGS BEING BUILT THERE. THE STANDARD LINE IS IT WAS GOING TO AFFECT OUR PROPERTY VALUES IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, RUIN OUR VIEW. IT'S GOING TO RUIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR IT'S ALL THIS AND. AND WHEN I GO BACK TO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS THREE OR FOUR YEARS AFTER THESE PROJECTS WHERE THEY ALL CAME AND COMPLAINED, THEN NOBODY COMPLAINS ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T NOTHING MATERIALIZED. I MEAN, IT WAS ME AND WE DON'T WE DON'T MIND IT. AND I THINK YOU KNOW I WOULD LOVE SOMEBODY BUILD SOMETHING NEXT TO MY HOUSE SO I COULD LOWER MY PROPERTY VALUES BECAUSE OF MY PROPERTY VALUES KEEP GOING UP AND I JUST PAY A LOT OF TAXES IS WHAT I KNOW. AND BUT ANYWAY, I LIKE THE PROJECT AND I'LL CERTAINLY SUPPORT IT. THE OTHER COMMENTS. UH THIS IS A TOUGH ONE FOR ME, MAN AGAIN. I'M THE NEW GUY. AND I WANT TO FIRST THANK MR SCHROEDER HERE BECAUSE WE ENGAGED A LOT ON THIS. YOU HELP ME PROCESS SOME STUFF ON THIS, SO THANK YOU. UM WE NEED THIS.

STUFF HERE. THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. AH! BUT THE RESIDENTS THAT I'VE ENGAGED WANT MYSTERY BOX BE WHATEVER THAT IS, YOU KNOW, UM IT MIGHT BE ONE BURGER MIGHT BE A DOCTOR'S OFFICE. BUT YOU'VE MADE IT CLEAR YOU WANT IT IS ON THE HARD CORNER AND THE THING THAT TIPS THE SCALES FOR ME, THOUGH, IS THAT I DO RESPECT THE VERY UNIQUE TOP BIOGRAPHY HERE. THAT. MAKES THIS SO VISIBLE. I WAS YOU KNOW, I WAS GOING THROUGH. WHERE IS THEIR APARTMENT COMPLEXES, AND I WENT OUT TO THE ONE IT'S STONEBRIDGE ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, AND IT HAS A MASSIVE SETBACK AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE TOPOGRAPHY ISSUES THERE SO THIS IS A REAL TOUGH ONE FOR ME IF I LIVED IN, CYRIL WOULD TERRORISTS AND I KNOW THAT LADY LEFT WHO WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT I'D PROBABLY WANT IT BUT VERSUS MYSTERY BOX B BUT I'M GOING TO RESPECT THE RESIDENTS ON THIS. YEAH IT IS A TOUGH PROJECT. UM, I THINK THE. DESIGN OF THE DOWN. SLOPING TOPOGRAPHY MAKES IT REALLY TOUGH FOR ANY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HERE. AND SO, UM I LIKE THE PROJECT. I THINK IT MITIGATES A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT SAID. AND IF OUR ONLY REMAINING CONCERN AS HIGH. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S UM SINCE SINCE THAT'S NOT CHANGING IN THE REQUEST. I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN HOLD THAT UP AS A CONCERN, SO I THINK I'M IN FAVOR OF IT. I'M THE SAME WAY I'M CONFLICTED.

UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITIZENS SAY AND UNDERSTAND. UM YOU KNOW, BACKING UP TO A BUILDING LIKE THAT, BUT WHEN YOU GO AND YOU LOOK AT IT, AND YOU LOOK AT THE BUILDING HATS ARE STILL GOING TO BE THE SAME. RATHER HAVE A SURE THING BECAUSE THAT WAS AGAINST BOTH MULTI FAMILY PROJECTS. WHO WOULDN'T GO THERE BEFORE? AH, BUT THIS IS A DIFFERENT PRODUCT. IT'S GOING TO BE A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD. THE ONLY THING THAT I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WAS THE HEIGHT AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE ANYWAY. SO I'M IN FAVOR PROJECTS. WELL, I THINK I'VE. BEING TOLD BY MY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. I AM GOING TO BE IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT BECAUSE OF ALL THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED. THIS PROJECT ACTUALLY MITIGATES THEM GREATER THAN ANY OTHER OPTION THAT MIGHT BE THERE. AND. YOU TALK ABOUT HAVING A NICE KNOWN QUANTITY IN A QUIET DEVELOPMENT ON THAT CORNER. IT'S EASY TO SAY THAT I'D RATHER HAVE MYSTERY BOX BE UNTIL MYSTERY BOX B COMES IN, AND THERE'S SEMI TRUCKS AT SIX IN THE MORNING AND UNLOADING LOADING GROCERIES OR GOODS EVERY DAY, AND THERE'S A DUMPSTER DUMPSTERS WITH FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS AND FRIARS AND ALL OF THAT, AND THE SMELL AND THE RATS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN MYSTERY BOX B. IS BOY. YOU GO BACK. YOU GIVE ALMOST ANYTHING TO GO BACK IN TIME AND TAKE THE GATED, QUIET, 80 YEAR OLD COMMUNITY. UM SO FOR ME, I BELIEVE IT'S THE WITH IT AND END KNOWING THAT TOPOGRAPHY AND THE EMPEROR NEAR IMPOSSIBLE WAY TO DEVELOP THAT. FOR COMMERCIAL LONG, VIRGINIA. UM I SEE IT AS A AS A GOOD USE.

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I DON'T THINK OUR ROLE HERE IS TO GUESS THE FUTURE AND TRY AND SAY, WELL, THIS IS THE LESSER EVIL OF WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE WE'RE BEING AS TO VOTE ON A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT. NOT TO GUESS WHAT MIGHT GO THERE IN THE FUTURE. WE ALWAYS GUESS I WOULD . BUT FOR ME, I THINK IT'S QUITE OPPOSITE THAT I THINK OUR JOB IS ACTUALLY TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE AND TRY TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. AND I THINK EVERY DECISION WE MAKE IS, YOU KNOW, SETS JUST SOME EXTENT IN CONCRETE WHAT THAT FUTURE WILL BE, SO I ACTUALLY DISAGREE. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TRY TO ANTICIPATE YOU KNOW WHERE. WHAT? WHAT? THE FUTURE. MIGHT HOLD AND HOW DO WE NAVIGATE AND MITIGATE THAT TO HAVE THE GREATEST BENEFIT AND MITIGATE ANY DOWNSIDE THAT WE MIGHT FORESEE COMING. IF WE JUST EASY FOR ME TO MAKE DECISIONS IF I JUST STOP THINKING ABOUT FUTURE SAYS ON MY AGENDA, WE'RE VOTING ON ITS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. WE ARE AND WHAT WE'RE DECIDING ON IS A PRODUCT THAT COULD GO HERE AND WEIGHING THAT, AND WHAT WE WHAT WE MIGHT ANTICIPATE WOULD RECENTLY GO THERE. MM IF THIS IS NOT THIS PROJECT DOESN'T GO. IT'S THIS DOESN'T GET BUILT. SOMETHING WILL BE BUILT AND WE GOT IT. FOR ME. I'LL ALWAYS HAVE IN TERMS OF THAT. YEAH AND SOMETHING ELSE MIGHT BE BUILT THERE, AND IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE LIKE A WHOLE LOT MORE, ACTUALLY, ABSOLUTELY COULD BE. THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN AT LIKE FOREST, AND IT HAPPENED THERE DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER STORAGE PLACE OVER IN WESTBRIDGE, BUT IT COULD, AND THAT'S THE FACT WE ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW. SO WE MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON BUT WE'RE GOING TO PUT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THERE. UHH! PUT OUR STAMP ON MCKINNEY THAT THAT'S WHAT THIS COUNCIL WANTS. I THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA IT'S A SENIOR LIVING FACILITY, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE IN HIGH NEED OF IN THIS COMMUNITY. I MEAN, AT SOME POINT, MY PARENTS ARE GOING TO WANT TO MOVE CLOSER TO ME. AND WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO LIVE? YOU KNOW, I JUST I HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT VIEW OF IT, TOO, THAT ARE UP THE STREET.

STILL EVEN WE'RE STILL AGAIN. I GUESS IT'S A THERE'S A DIFFERENCE, AND I'M NOT GOING TO ARGUE WITH ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER. THERE'S A PERCEPTION THAT FIRST SOME THIS GATED COMMUNITY IS A BETTER STREET VIEW. FOR OTHERS. IT MIGHT BE A DOUGHNUT STRIP CENTER AND NAIL SALON. OH, THAT IS THE BETTER STREET VIEW. AND SO I GUESS WE'LL HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON THAT. BUT FOR ME, I DON'T CONSIDER A SENIOR LIVING FACILITY THAT MY PARENTS ARE, IF THEY WERE ALIVE, MIGHT BE LIVING IN AS A NEGATIVE THING FOR THE CITY. MCKINNEY AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM PUTTING MY STAMP ON A 70 OR $80 MILLION ADVIL OR AND VALUE PROPERTY ON A CORNER THAT'S NOT BEEN DEVELOPED IN THE LAST 100 YEARS, AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WHO IS NOT SITTING IN THIS MEETING IS GOING TO DRIVE BY THAT WHEN IT'S COMPLETED AND SAY, OH, LOOK AT THAT NICE SENIOR LIVING FACILITY THEY'RE GOING TO SAY ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX GOING UP IN MAKENI. AREN'T WE OVERRUN WITH THEM? WHERE THEY MIGHT SAY ANOTHER DOUGHNUT SHOP. THEY WILL AND YOU'LL GET THE EMAILS AND YOU'VE GOTTEN SO MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS ITEM. THEIR SECOND. A SECOND. THESE TESTAMENTS. PUSHING PASSES. NEXT ITEM. MM

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request by the City of McKinney to Amend Article VI. Conveyance of Land for Recreational Areas and Facilities, of the Code of Ordinances]

CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AND ACT ON A REQUEST BY THE CITY. MCKINNEY TO AMEND ARTICLE SIX CONVEYANCE OF LAND FOR RECREATIONAL AREAS AND FACILITIES OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. TELL POVERTY IS TERRIBLE. TWO FROM THE JOINT. IF YOU WANT TO USE ONE. YOU KNOW, OKAY. THE SPIRIT INTO ME. IT'S A SPIRITED TO ME. HIS CASKET. SO YOU'VE GOT A HAIRCUT. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU. I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. YOU THINK GOOD EVENING, MICHAEL KOWALSKI, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION AND HONOR TO BE HERE AGAIN. THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS OF CONSIDERING ADAPTING AND COORDINATES NEVER REFLECT WHAT I THINK IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO IS A COMMUNITY OVERALL. SOME OF THESE SLIDES, OF COURSE, ON THE SAME SLIDES WE'VE SEEN BEFORE.

BASICALLY, WHY ARE WE HERE TO REVIEW? AND I'LL SPEND SOME TIME IN THESE JUST FOR THE HISTORICAL RECORD, IF NOTHING ELSE. IT WAS THE NUMBER ONE RECOMMENDATION FOR 2017 MASTER PLAN TO LOOK AT THIS ORDINANCE UPDATE. HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS. SO IT'S ABOUT 20

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YEARS OLD. LIMITING DOCUMENTATION AND WHAT WE'RE DOING NEXT. OF COURSE, WE'VE BEEN EXPOSED TO LEGAL CHALLENGES ALONG THE WAY. THIS IS BASICALLY A STORY ABOUT HOW WE ACQUIRE PARKLAND AND MONEY TO BUILD PARTS. THE DEVELOPMENT THAT ON THE GROUND IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, OUR INTENT IS NOT TO UPGRADE PURSE A IS TO MAINTAIN OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE. AND, OF COURSE, DEVELOPING CALCULUS THAT IS DEFENSIBLE. AND PROVIDE OPTIONS FOR DEVELOPERS WHO WANT TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND. THIS IS THE JOURNEY WE'VE BEEN ON THUS FAR KICKED OFF IN 2019 PAUSE WITH FITS AND STARTS IN 2020, WITH DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON. FIVE MEETINGS WITH THE PARKS AND REC FORWARD TO WITH MCKINNEY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. TWO WORK SESSIONS AND, OF COURSE TONIGHT, THE PUBLIC HEARING. REALLY CONSULTANT. DR JOHN CROMPTON, HELP US IN THIS PROCESS. DR CROP HAS BEEN A GREAT ALLY OF HELPING US UNDERSTAND. HE SPOKE AT COUNCIL LAST YEAR OR SO RECALL.

HE'S NOT ONLY A GREAT PROFESSOR AT EIGHT AM, IS ALSO A SITTING COUNCIL MEMBER COLLEGE STATION.

SO HE'S IN YOUR SHOES AND UNDERSTANDS DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES. HE MADE A COMMENT ON THE FINAL VERSION THAT MR HOUSES AND HIS TEAMMATE ALAIN PUT TOGETHER FOR US, HE THOUGHT IT WAS THE MOST SOLID ORDINANCES SCENE. IT WILL BE A MODEL FOR THE REST OF TEXAS TO FOLLOW. YOU THOUGHT WE'VE GOTTEN TO THAT POINT IN OUR JOURNEY. SO WHAT IS THE JOURNEY? OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE STATES THAT EXISTING REGULATIONS ARE ONE ACRE OF PARKLAND FOR EACH 50 UNITS PUT ON THE GROUND APARTMENTS OR SINGLE FAMILY. OUR STUDY RESULTS. REVEALED IT SHOULD BE 1 TO 37. AND WE SHOULD ALSO IMPLEMENT PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE. THE STEEL WILL ALLOW US TO ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTIVE PARTS AFTER WE ACQUIRED THE LAND ITSELF. I PUT ON HERE? JUST THE MAP OF HOW WE GOT THERE. IN CASE WE NEED TO REFERENCE THIS. I CAN COME BACK TO THIS SLIDE TO UNPACK THE NUMBERS IF NECESSARY. BUT BASICALLY IN SHORT FOR SINGLE FAMILY, IT'S JUST UNDER $2000, A UNIT MULTI FAMILY JUST OVER $1600 PER UNIT. AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCIL LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE AREA, INCLUDING ARE SISTER CITIES. THIS SHOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING YOUR NOTICE, OF COURSE, THAT SINGLE FAMILY FOR US IS NOT APPLICABLE AT PRESENT. OUR DEVELOPMENT, FEED FROM MULTI FAMILY AS WELL. FOR EACH OF OUR BEING COMPARABLE CITIES HAVE ALL CHARGED SOME SOURCE. IN FACT, THAT ACTUALLY CHANGED THE ORDINANCES IN THE PAST TWO OR THREE YEARS TO UPGRADE. THEIR ORDINANCE TO MEET CURRENT STANDARDS, TOO. SO WHERE DO WE FIT INTO THAT EQUATION? TONIGHT WE WILL MAKE A PROPOSAL THAT BASICALLY SAYS WE WANT TO COLLECT PARKLAND AT THE 1 TO 37 RATIO. WE WISH TO ACQUIRE A PARK DEVELOPMENT FEVER SINGLE FAMILY AT A RATE OF $1000 PER UNIT FOR TWO YEARS. AFTER TWO YEARS IT GOES UP TO $1400. AND THEN ON THE BOTTOM THERE FOR THE SAKE OF CONVERSATION AVERAGED OUT THE SIX CITIES ABOVE WOULD DO. THESE TYPES OF FEES TO SHOW HOW WE ARE IN LINE WITH OUR SISTER AND COMPARABLE CITIES. THIS IS THE TABLE THAT WAS SENT INSIDE THE ORGANS WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, PROVIDED THAT IT'S APPROVED TONIGHT, AND IT SHOWS AS MAYOR PRO TEM SUGGESTED OUR LAST WORK SESSION. ABOUT HAVING A LONGER ONE WAY IN ORDER TO RAMP UP TO THE MORE COMPLETE FEE. IN THIS ITERATION YEARS. 22 23 EFFECTIVE OCTOBER ONE OF EACH YEAR. WILL BE AT A 50% DISCOUNT FOR SINGLE FAMILY. AND WE ROUNDED MULTI FAMILY TO $1600. AND THEN EIGHT YEARS 24 25 TO 1400. AND THEN AS PART OF OUR DISCUSSION AT WORK SESSION, WE SAID STAFF WOULD COME BACK IN THREE YEARS. LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE AGAIN. DO A TEMPERATURE CHECK. AND THOSE RESULTS IF CHANGES ARE NECESSARY WOULD GO INTO EFFECT OF 2026. THE GOAL OF THIS WHICH TRANSPARENCY TOWARD DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS ABOUT WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE LINE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS JOURNEY. THIS TABLE HERE REALLY SPEAKS TO HOW WE ARE REWARDING IN MANY RESPECTS, DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS WHO GO A BIT ABOVE AND BEYOND. SO, FOR INSTANCE, REDUCTIONS IN. THE PART OF DEVELOPMENT FEES ON THE RIGHT HAND COLUMN. IF DEVELOPERS PUT IN PRIVATE PARKS. THEY SHOULD GET CREDIT FOR THIS PRIVATE PARTS, SO IT'S UP TO 50% CREDITS AND WRITE DOWN THE LINE. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IN SENIOR, AFFORDABLE AND ASSISTANT, WE'RE NOT REQUIRING THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE AT ALL. ON THE LEFT COLUMN. WE HAVE THE PART DEDICATION LAND WE ARE WILLING TO CONSIDER IN 25% DISCOUNT FOR MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL ALSO 50% FOR SENIOR AND KIND OF SEE THE RHYTHM WE HAVE HERE. WHAT IS NOT EXPRESSED ON THIS TABLE PERFECTLY IS THAT EVEN SENIOR INDEPENDENT LIVING AND