Mar 01, 2022 City Council Work Session on 2022-03-01 3:00 PM

[CALL TO ORDER]

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ORDER. TODAY IS TUESDAY, MARCH 1ST ELECTION DAY. IT IS THREE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON OR IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS TO 22, NORTH TENNESSEE STREET CITY OF MCKINNEY, TEXAS. WE FIRST. ORDER

[PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS]

I KNOW THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT IDEAS ON HOW TO ADDRESS IT. BUT WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING. AND I HOPE THAT GUIDES US THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM. I ALSO WANT TO MAKE IT REALLY CLEAR THAT HOMELESSNESS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE SOLVED. IT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED ITS ATTENTION THAT WE CAN MANAGE AS LONG AS HOMES EXIST, THERE WILL BE HOMELESSNESS. WE HOPE TO SEE IT FEW FEW PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. WE HOPE TO SEE IT RARE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE PART OF OUR EXISTENCE. NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE IN THE WORLD, AND EVEN HERE IN THIS TOWN, ESPECIALLY AS IT'S A GROWING TOWN. AND I'M ENCOURAGED THAT WE'RE SPENDING TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ADDRESS IT IN OUR TOWN. I WANT TO CAUTION AGAINST THE IDEA OF BEST PRACTICES. IT'S GOOD TO SEE WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING. BUT JUST LIKE OUR SLOGAN SAYS WE ARE UNIQUE BY NATURE. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT IT UNIQUELY IN OUR TOWN. I ALSO THINK THAT WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO LEAD THE NATION.

THERE ARE MORE CITIES ACROSS THE U. S. LIKE MCKINNEY. THEN THERE ARE LIKE DALLAS OR NEW YORK, OR L. A AND I THINK WE HAVE SOME UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES TO MEET PEOPLE SOONER. IN THEIR JOURNEY , YOU'LL FIND THAT PEOPLE TEND TO HESITATE TO SHARE BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE STIGMA THAT COMES ALONG WITH HOMELESSNESS. BUT IF WE CAN CREATE MORE OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THE OVERNIGHT WARMING STATION WHERE PEOPLE FEEL SETTLED IN. THEY CAN GET A NICE MEAL. THEY CAN FEEL VERY WELCOME, AND THEY START TO SHARE THEIR STORY BECAUSE THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN'T GET ON THE FORM AND I BELIEVE WITH ALL MY HEART THAT THE SOLUTIONS IN THEIR STORY, NOT JUST IN STUFF.

IF STUFF FOR THE ANSWER THEY WOULDN'T BE HOMELESS TO BEGIN WITH. IF HANDING SOMEBODY ADDRESS WAS AN ANSWER. THEY WOULDN'T BE ALMOST TO BEGIN WITH. THEY'VE THEY'VE HAD THAT BEFORE. IT IS THE BREAKDOWN OF NUCLEAR RELATIONSHIPS THAT CAUSES HOMELESSNESS FEELING LIKE YOU HAVE NOBODY TO TURN TO NO FAMILY, NO CLOSE FRIENDS, AND THEN EVERYBODY THAT'S GOING THROUGH. IT MAY NOT BE MENTALLY ILL, BUT THEY ARE MENTALLY TRAUMATIZED. AND THEY GO THROUGH HIS BEST SEASON WHERE THEY FEAR PEOPLE AND SO THEY NEED PEOPLE, BUT THEY FEAR THEM AT THE SAME TIME, SO I THINK IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ENTER INTO CONVERSATIONS KNOWING THAT PERSON IS GOING THROUGH A TRAUMA. BE SENSITIVE TO THE UNIQUENESS OF WHO THEY ARE AND BE PATIENT. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A FAST FIX WHAT LED TO THE LOSING AN ADDRESS HAPPENED LONG BEFORE THE ADDRESS WAS ACTUALLY LOST. THEY MAY BE ABLE TO MARK THE DAY THAT THEY HAD TO MOVE OUTSIDE FROM INSIDE. BUT WHAT LED TO THAT TOOK TIME, AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE US TIME TO DISCOVER THAT SO THANK YOU, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE PRESENTATION. WELL, THAT WAS MAYBE THE BEST THREE MINUTES. SERIOUSLY BEST COMMENTS IN THREE MINUTES. UM, THAT I'VE HEARD. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT THAT WAS VERY INSIGHTFUL AND TRUE AND APPRECIATE THAT A LOT. I DON'T SHOW ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN PUBLIC COMMENTS

[DISCUSS REGULAR MEETING AGENDA ITEMS for the City Council Regular Meeting to be held on Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 6:00 p.m. ]

[Update on Activities of the Mayor’s Homeless Task Force]

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BUT WE WANTED TO SEE HOW MUCH ARE WE ALREADY SPENDING? HOW MUCH DO WE NORMALLY SPEND? SO WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION. DISCOURAGE GIVING TO PANHANDLERS . MCKINNEY RESIDENTS ARE CONSIDERED GOOD TIPPERS, AND THAT'S THAT'S AN ISSUE. EVERYBODY HAS A BIG HEART. BUT THAT CAN BE A DRAW FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE PAN HANDLING. THERE WAS A LACK OF SAFETY TRAINING FOR CITY STAFF ON PROPER SAFETY PROCEDURES FOR INTERACTING WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE HOMELESS.

SAFETY TRAINING AND PPE FOR CITY STAFF ON BIOHAZARDOUS CLEANUPS. PROVIDING FUNDING TO REUNITE FAMILIES ENABLE PEOPLE TO FIND KEEP JOBS, CAR REPAIRS, BUS TICKETS, INTERVIEW CLOTHING, SHORT TERM HOTEL STAYS. AND DISCOUNTED TRANSIT SERVICES FOR THOSE WHO ARE HOMELESS OR AT RISK OF BEING HOMELESS. AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT THROUGH THE M UTD AS WELL. SO THIS IS DATA ON THE FY 21 COST OF HOMELESSNESS TO THE CITY. THE PUBLIC WORKS, SOLID WASTE, AND HONESTLY, THESE NUMBERS ARE PROBABLY LOW. I BELIEVE THE NUMBERS THAT THEY GAVE ME WERE JUST FOR ONE CLEAN UP. THAT WAS DONE AT 3 80 75. PARK SO THERE ARE FOLKS THAT GO OUT CLEAN THE PARKS OPEN PARKS THAT DO HOMELESS RESPONSE TO CLEAN UP, SO THAT'S THE COST FOR THEM.

HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT JUST OUR STAFF TIME FOR MANAGING HOMELESS PROBLEM PROGRAMS THAT SORT OF THING. CODE ENFORCEMENT . THEY ESTIMATED THAT THE TWO STAFF MEMBERS THE WORK ON HOMELESS ISSUES A LITTLE OVER $6000 LIBRARY DIDN'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER. BUT THERE IS A LOT OF STAFF TIME THAT SPENT REFERRING INDIVIDUALS TO RESOURCE IS MAKING CALLS THINGS LIKE THAT. IMPACT JANITORIAL SUPPLIES. PUBLIC WORKS DRAINAGE AGAIN. THIS IS CLEAN UP. COST.

POLICE DEPARTMENT. THIS WAS A PERCENTAGE OF SALARIES AND THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DIVISION. IN JAIL WITH. I BELIEVE THE ESTIMATE WAS THAT ABOUT 215 HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS IN THE CITY OF MAKENI 92% OF THEM HAVE BEEN INCARCERATED AT LEAST ONCE. SO THIS WOULD BE KIND OF THE LOWER END OF WHAT THE CITY IS PAYING FOR. FOR THAT. AND SO HERE ARE OUR FY 22 PROPOSED HOMELESS RESPONSE PROGRAMS. RELIABLE DATA ON DEMOGRAPHICS. PEDRO ALVAREZ IN OUR DEPARTMENT CAN'T SAY ENOUGH GOOD THINGS. THEY CAME TOGETHER WITH A PROGRAM SOFTWARE THAT ENABLES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT COMMUNITY SERVICES TO TRACK INDIVIDUALS OVER TIME. AGAIN TO GET SOME OF THAT DATA THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. THE COORDINATED HOMELESS RESPONSE AMONG CITY DEPARTMENTS HAVE A HEART GIVES SMART, WHICH CARRIES SIMPSON IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT SAFETY TRAINING FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SERGEANT MICHAEL BEST WILL SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT THAT. BIOHAZARD TRAINING, CLEANUPS AND PPE FOR CITY STAFF AND ALSO CONTRACTS FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND DO THE LARGE HOMELESS CLEANUPS. FLEX FUND TO PROVIDE THAT FAMILY REUNIFICATION, BUS TICKETS, THAT SORT OF THING AND THEN DISCOUNTED TRANSIT SERVICES. SO KERRY WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT

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SO WE REALLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE OUR RESIDENTS TO GIVE WHERE IT HELPS, AND THAT'S GIVING TO OUR NONPROFITS AND GIVEN DIRECTLY TO PANHANDLERS MAY DISCOURAGE THEM FROM SEEKING THOSE LONGER TERM SOLUTIONS THAT PAUL TALKED ABOUT. WE HAVE THIS GRAPHIC. THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE USED SIMILAR TYPE OF GRAPHICS. WE THINK THAT WE MAY USE THESE ON HANDOUTS THAT WE GIVE TO SOME OF OUR BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN THAT THEY CAN PASS ON TO FOLKS THAT THAT NEED HELP, AND ON THE BACK OF THEM WILL HAVE ALL THE RESOURCES PROVIDED THAT THE CITY OFFERS, BUT OUR GOAL IS JUST TO GET PEOPLE TO GIVE TO TWO POLES. ORGANIZATION STREETS SIDE. UM SHOWERS ALL THE PEOPLE LOCALLY THAT DO GOOD WORK IN OUR COMMUNITY, SO WE'RE JUST SORT OF BROUGHT THIS SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THE GRAPHIC TO SEE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT IT, AND THERE'LL BE MORE INFORMATION COMING UP ON ON WHERE YOU WOULD SEE THIS. AND THAT WOULD BE ABOUT $2000 THAT WE WOULD BE ASKING FOR OUT OF THE MONEY THAT YOU WOULD BE PROVIDING FOR HOMELESSNESS. THERE'S NO QUESTIONS. I'M GOING TO GIVE THIS OVER TO SERGEANT BEST. WHO UM, HUSBAND INFORMATION ON SAFETY TRAIN. AND JUST SWITCHES TO ALL RIGHT. SERGEANT BEST WE CAN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I'M OVER OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES UNIT. WHICH SPECIFICALLY FOCUSES ON MENTAL HEALTH AND HOMELESSNESS IN OUR CITY. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PLAN ON. DO PRE COVID. MY UNIT. DID SOME TRAINING IN OUR TRAINING UNIT DID SOME TRAINING WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT? TO GO OVER. JUST SOME BASIC SAFETY SKILLS. WHEN YOU'RE APPROACHING MENTAL HEALTH CAMPS, YOU'RE WALKING INTO A CAMP. WHAT TO LOOK FOR IF YOU GET THAT THAT PIT IN YOUR FEELING THAT PIT IN YOUR GUT TOBACCO CALL US. WE'RE JUST KIND OF REINFORCING IT. RUSS AND I HAVE GONE IN AND KIND OF HOLD IT DOWN FROM THE BIG TRAINING THE BIG FOUR HOUR BLOCK TO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT QUICKER. BUT TO COVER CONTACTS WITH ALMOST INDIVIDUALS, CONTACTS WITH PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE IN PSYCHOSIS. JUST TO MAKE THINGS A LITTLE BIT SAFER. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ABOUT A TWO HOUR BLOCK. FROM ANYTHING FROM DEALING WITH THE HOMELESS CAMP TO DEALING WITH SOMEONE ON THE STREETS TO EVEN JUST WHEN YOU'RE CLEARING UP THE HOUSE GOING OUT AND DEALING WITH A CODE THING, JUST SOME SAFETY THINGS DON'T SIT IN FRONT OF THAT LOCATION. DRIVE OFF. A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT OUR UNIT. UH PEDRO ALVAREZ TO JANICE SPOKE OF. CREATED AN AMAZING AN AMAZING SOFTWARE FOR US SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR. I'VE ONLY BEEN IN THE UNIT FOR A YEAR AND A HALF, BUT RUST AND TERRY HAD BEEN LOOKING FOR YEARS. WHAT IT ALLOWS US TO DO IS TRACK THESE INDIVIDUALS OVER TIME. IT'S THE SAME QUESTION HERE. WE ASK ABOUT 5 TO 6 QUESTIONS, BUT EVERY TIME WE CONTACT THAT INDIVIDUAL WERE . WE CAN JUST CONTINUE TO UPDATE THAT. IT ALSO HAS, UH, ONBOARDING, WHERE WE CAN LOOK AT A MAP OF THE CITY AND SEE EVERY PLACE WE'VE CONTACTED THAT INDIVIDUAL. WE CAN PUT IN DOCUMENTATION AND IF HE'S LOOKED FOR SERVICES WHEN HE'S LOOKED FOR SERVICES, WHO HAS LOOKED FOR SERVICES THROUGH AND THAT WILL HELP US CONTINUE TO BUILD DATA ON HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'VE CONTACTED AND HOW OFTEN WE'RE CONTACTING THOSE INDIVIDUALS. AND IF NOBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO CHRIS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. HI I'M CHRIS GROSS CLOSED SAFETY COORDINATOR WORK IN THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT. APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP AND TELL YOU ABOUT MY PLANS AND PROCEDURES FOR SAFELY CLEANING UP HOMELESS CAMPS. SO WHEN I CAN, AS INITIALLY BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR CLEANUP, THAT DEPARTMENT SUPERVISOR WOULD NOTIFY THE SAFETY COORDINATOR MYSELF AND I WOULD COME OUT AND PERFORM A HAZARD ASSESSMENT OF THAT SCENE. AND BASICALLY WORKING OFF A CHECK LIST. I WOULD LOOK FOR ANYTHING THAT IS UNSAFE AND SAFE MATERIALS ARE UNSAFE SITUATIONS. IT COULD BE THE ENVIRONMENT THE TERRAIN. THINGS LIKE CHEMICALS, DRUG PARAPHERNALIA SHARPS, SUCH AS NEEDLES, BROKEN GLASS, HUMAN WASTE, BLOOD AND BODILY FLUIDS. ANYTHING THAT IS POSES A DANGER TO OUR CITY EMPLOYEES. IF THE AREA HAS BEEN DEEMED TO BE HIGH RISK OR UNSAFE, I WOULD CONTACT

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OUR CITY EMPLOYEES MAY PROCEED WITH THAT CLEAN UP. THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE TASKED WITH THOSE DUTIES WILL BE OFFERED A HEPATITIS A AND B VACCINE AND THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE TRAINING ON PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT. THE USE OF IT WHICH EQUIPMENT DO WE USE? HOW TO PUT IT ON HOW TO TAKE IT OFF HOW TO THROW IT AWAY HOW TO GO ABOUT REPLACING IT, AND WE'LL COVER PROCEDURES SUCH AS REQUESTING THAT SITE HAZARD ASSESSMENT. THE PROCEDURES FOR ACTUALLY CLEANING THAT SITE AND TO KEEP IN MIND THAT BECAUSE I MIGHT HAVE MISSED SOMETHING THAT THAT SITE MIGHT STILL HAVE A DANGER TO IT, AND TO ALWAYS BE AWARE OF THAT ENVIRONMENT. AND, UM. TRANSPORTING AND DISPOSING OF THAT MATERIAL THAT IS CLEANED UP FROM THAT SITE. AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT BLOOD BORNE PATHOGENS, GENERAL EDUCATION OF WHAT IT IS HOW IT'S TRANSMITTED HOW WE AVOIDED BY USING STANDARD PRECAUTIONS AND PROCEDURES. IF MAYBE THERE IS AN EXPOSURE. WHAT DO WE DO POST EXPOSURE AND HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT SITUATION? AND THEN GENERAL AWARENESS, AVOIDANCE OF CONFRONTATION. AND THAT'S THE TRAINING THAT SERGEANT BEST AND HIS TEAM WILL BE PRESENTING. SO THIS INITIAL TRAINING ON THESE TOPICS I WILL PRESENT MYSELF THAT WILL BE AT THE SAME TIME. WELL, AFTER SERGEANT BEST HAS DONE HIS TRAINING THAT SAME TIME PERIOD APRIL 4TH THROUGH THE 22ND. TRAINING I'M ABLE TO SAVE COSTS BY DOING THESE TOPICS MYSELF.

PPE AND EQUIPMENT ESTIMATE THAT TO BE ABOUT $6000 ANNUALLY. ANY QUESTIONS? SESSIONS. THANKS, SIR. THANK YOU. SO I REALLY WANT TO THANK CHRIS FOR COMING TOGETHER AND, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING THIS TRAINING TALKING ABOUT THE VACCINATIONS THAT ARE NECESSARY. THE PPE E BEFORE THIS , YOU KNOW, CITY STAFF WERE KIND OF OPERATING IN THEIR OWN DEPARTMENTS GOING OUT DOING CLEANUPS AND REALLY, WITHOUT THE COORDINATED EFFORTS. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THE NEXT ITEM THAT WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS USING PART OF THAT MONEY FOR A FLEX FUND.

AND THAT WOULD BE PROVIDING FUNDING TO REUNITE HOMELESS PERSONS WITH THEIR FAMILIES ENABLE PEOPLE TO FIND AND KEEP JOBS CAR REPAIRS, WHICH IS A HUGE REASON THAT PEOPLE LOSE JOBS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO MAINTAIN THEIR TRANSPORTATION. INTERVIEW CLOTHING LIMITED MOST MOTEL STAYS. THIS COULD BE ADMINISTERED THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENT THROUGH THE COMMUNITY GRANTS DONE WHERE WE DO OUR OTHER GENERAL FUND SOCIAL SERVICE GRANTS. IT WOULD BE ON A REIMBURSABLE BASIS AS THE COMMUNITY GRANTS FUND IS AND WE'RE PROPOSING $20,000 FUNDING FOR A YEAR AGAIN DON'T KNOW WHAT THE USAGE IS GOING TO BE SO KIND OF A PILOT PROGRAM AND THEN $1000 MAXIMUM ASSISTANCE PER INDIVIDUAL PER YEAR. THE REIMBURSABLE BASIS, WHICH IS GOING TO APPRECIATE THAT RIGHT REIMBURSABLE PRACTICALITY OF IT. WOULD BE IF THE SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCY PROVIDES, SAY A CAR REPAIR FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO BRING THE RECEIPT. BRING THE INFORMATION ON ON THAT INDIVIDUAL AND THE EXPENSE WOULD BE REIMBURSED. RIGHT? I GUESS.

JUST THE. THE DIFFICULTY IN LOGISTICS OF THAT, SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE AWARE OF SOMEBODY THAT HAS AN ISSUE THAT A CAR REPAIR IS KEEPING THEM FROM A JOB. UM, THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO GET REPAIRED THEMSELVES WERE TELLING THEM THAT THEY NEED TO FIND US A AN ENTRY THAT WOULD MAKE THE REPAIR AND THEN WE WOULD THAT'S CORRECT. AND SO THEN YOU WOULD YOU WOULD PAY FOR THE REPAIR AND THEN COME TO GET REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT. AND WE'RE THINKING ABOUT JUST USING, LIKE ONE SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCY IS KIND OF BEING THE POINT OF CONTACT SO PEOPLE WOULD BE REFERRED TO THAT AS LONG AS WE COULD REFER THEM EXACTLY EXACTLY SO THEY CAN DO THE VETTING. AND ALL OF THAT.

AND THEN, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT BOARD THE DISCOUNTED TRANSIT

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IF I. I GUESS I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHY WE NEED TO SPEND $18,000. WHEN WE'RE JUST DOING IT OURSELVES IS NOT A GOOD THING TO DO IT OURSELVES. IT IS HIGHLY HAZARDOUS AND OUR EMPLOYEES ARE NOT TRAINED TO DEAL WITH THAT LEVEL OF. BIOHAZARDS AND HUMAN WASTE CLEANUP. AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU WHEN WE WERE. I DON'T REMEMBER IF THIS WAS DURING THE TASK FORCE MEETING OR ONE OF THE SMALLER GROUP MEETINGS THAT THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN THAT WORKED FOR SOLID WAYS THAT HAVE BEEN OUT DOING ONE OF THESE LARGE CLEANUPS ON TOBACCO. AND TALKS ABOUT USING A BUCKET TO DO HUMAN WASTE IN TRYING TO GET RID OF IT AND IT FALLING IN HIM THINKING IT'S GOING TO COME ON HIM. AND SO IT REALLY IS. IT'S HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT PROFESSIONALS FOR THESE LARGE SCALE CLEANUPS WHEN THEIR STICKS WHEN THERE'S BIOHAZARDS. THAT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE BY A PROFESSIONAL. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN SPENDING THAT MONEY NOW IT'S JUST BEEN ABSORBED RIGHT AS A SEPARATE LINE ITEM, BASICALLY TRACKING

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BUT THE OTHER QUESTION. IT'S ABOUT EDUCATION, BECAUSE IT SEEMS THAT CARY AND PAUL AND YOU MENTIONED ISSUES THAT LITERALLY REQUIRES US TO EDUCATE THE GENERAL PUBLIC IN ORDER TO HEAD THIS OFF. AND ALL ASPECTS AND WATER. WE HAVE TO WE GET THE WORD OUT THERE. HOW DO WE EDUCATE THE GENERAL PUBLIC ABOUT ALL THE ISSUES THAT EACH ONE OF YOU DISCUSSED? THAT SEEMS TO BE THE LARGEST ISSUE TO HELPING SOLVE THE PROBLEM. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE ME A ONE WORD ANSWER. WE'RE JUSE ELEPHANT ONE BITE AT A TIME COMMUNICATIONS AND MARKETING.

THEY HAVE A HEART GIVES SMART CAMPAIGN EDUCATING RESIDENTS GETTING THAT OUT IN FRONT OF RESIDENTS USING OUR FACEBOOK PAGE USING THEIR WEBSITE. JUST REALLY TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT TO RESIDENTS AND TO PEOPLE THAT NEED THE HELP. ANY THOUGHTS OF PUTTING MESSAGES ON THE WATER BILL THAT SEEMS TO GET PEOPLE'S ATTENTION. REST IN OUR LAST. A WAY TO POSSIBLY. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ANYWAY. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THE PRINTING COSTS WOULD BE PROHIBITIVE. IS THE SUGGESTION. ART. THANK YOU ALL FOR PRESENTING. THANK YOU. THINK OF JEANETTE.

YOU'RE LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS ON THE BUDGET. YEAH. YOU KNOW ANY FEEDBACK AND THEN WE WOULD WE WOULD SO MUCH NOW LEAGUE BY ONLY FEEDBACK WOULD BE THAT, UM I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT THE ASK THAT'S BEING PRESENTED IS ENOUGH. I DON'T THINK IT IS FOR THE EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES. WE HAVE 120. 175 FOR 60. I BELIEVE IT'S 170 75 YEARS, SO IF IT'S NOT USED, THEN HOPEFULLY WITH FINANCE WE CAN CARRY CARRY THAT THAT FUNDING OVER. BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT REALLY THIS IS THIS IS KIND OF A PILOT, SO WE MIGHT HAVE TO COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THIS AREA, BUT WE COULD DO I GUESS WE WOULD DO A RESOLUTION SORT OF A NOT TO EXCEED NONE OF WHAT YOU HAVE THERE ON THE THING ACTUALLY HELP PEOPLE. WERE SOMEONE NEEDS A CAR REPAIR. SOMEONE NEEDS SOMETHING LIKE THAT. CAN THAT MONEY NOT BE USED FOR THAT? YES SO THAT'S WHAT THE FLEX FUND. WOULD DO IT WOULD HELP PEOPLE WITH CAR

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THERE ARE NONPROFITS THERE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT GIVE THINGS AND AS PAUL BY SERIOUS WAS SAYING YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE STUFF. IT'S REMOVING THOSE BARRIERS THAT PEOPLE ARE FACING. AND WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS, BUT IT'S JUST TRYING TO ADDRESS THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. IF I COULD JUST ADD SO THAT FROM WHAT I'M SEEING HERE, THEY'RE TWO ITEMS THAT $20,000 ITEMS EACH. THAT'S SO IT'S 40,000 AND 60,000 IS REALLY DIRECT ASSISTANCE IS THE TRANSIT ASSISTANCE AND THE FLEX FUND. CORRECT, RIGHT? BUT WE HAVE 175.

WHY DON'T WE? I MEAN. LIKE WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR? IF WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT NEXT YEAR, THEN WHY DON'T WE USE IT THIS YEAR WITH PEOPLE THAT THIS YEAR. WELL AND IF YOU KNOW THERE'S A HUGE NEED FOR THE FUNDING, AND THERE'S MORE FUNDING THAT'S THAT'S NEEDED. THEN WE WOULD COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE YOUR PERMISSION TO USE MORE OF THIS FUND OR IF YOU GENERALLY APPROVE OF THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND GUIDELINES, THEN WE WOULD JUST SAY WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY IN THESE CATEGORIES AND COME BACK AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND GIVE A REPORT AND SAY. HEY WE HAVE MONEY TO CARRY OVER OR WE NEED MORE MONEY. AND THAT WOULD HAVE YOU FIND YOURSELF IN FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS KNOWING THAT YOU NEED MORE YOU IMMEDIATELY COME BACK AND. YES SO I THINK I'M I BELIEVE I'D BE SPEAKING FOR COUNSEL TO SAY THAT THE CONSENSUS IS WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. WE'RE ALL CONCERNED NOT ENOUGH. IS THERE, BUT KNOWING THAT YOU WILL COME BACK. WITH ANY NEED, AND CERTAINLY NOT WAIT UNTIL YOU RAN TO SAY WE SPENT IT, YOU KNOW, FOUR MONTHS AGO. AH, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO ANYTHING THE LAST FOUR MONTHS.

PROJECT THE NEXT YEAR, SO OBVIOUSLY I KNOW WHERE WE'RE CONCEPT COMMUNICATION ON THIS TYPE OF STUFF, BUT YOU WILL YOU'LL BE BACK IN WHEN THERE IS EVERY NEED. YOU'RE GOING TO PRESENT IT. ABSOLUTELY I WOULD SAY FROM ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT. NONE OF THESE ITEMS, EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS. SHOULD SAY ARE WITHIN SIGNATURE AUTHORITY, THE CITY MANAGER, YOU'VE AUTHORIZED THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET. THERE ARE NO CONTRACTS ABOVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT THAT WE'RE COMING TO YOU TO PROVE. SO BUT THIS WAS A I MEAN , YOU PUT THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET THE FIRST TIME YOU'VE EVER DONE IT, AND THIS IS A DELICATE AND SENSITIVE PROGRAM.

SO THERE'S A CHINESE PROVERB. THIS IS CROSSING THE RIVER FEELING EVERY STONE AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE CROSSING THE RIVER AND FEELING EVERY STONE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DOING SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL SAYS THAT'S A RED FLAG. DON'T DO THAT. OR WE'D LIKE MORE OF THIS OR SEE HOW THIS GOES AND THEN COME BACK, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH RESPECT TO TODAY'S PRESENTATION TO YOU TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

THERE'S NOTHING IN HERE. THAT'S OBNOXIOUS TO YOU OR OR SOMETHING YOU DON'T WANT TO DO. SO, UM MY REMARK WOULD BE AS THE NEW GUY WHO DIDN'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF SEEING THIS THE FIRST TIME. I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR EVERYTHING YOU GUYS HAVE DONE HERE TODAY. IT DOES STRIKE ME AS QUITE THE LAYMAN THAT THE BUDGET IS SMALL . BUT AS A FIDUCIARY FOR THE MCKINNEY TAXPAYER. I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. ALECKO WITH THE MAYOR SAID, IS THAT WE HAVE AN APPETITE TO HELP. AND YOU KNOW, JUST MY EDITORIAL IS AGAIN TO YOU KNOW, INDICATE MY SURPRISE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORD IS. BUT YOU HAVE THE 63% ARE EMPLOYED, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS RIGHT NOW. BUT I CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE HAD A PREJUDICE OR BIAS THAT THAT NUMBER WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH , MUCH MUCH, MUCH LOWER THAN 63. BUT I HAVEN'T MY OWN PERSONAL ENCOUNTERS MET. A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE HAD THE CHALLENGE OF A CAR REPAIR TO A JOB AND I CAN THINK OF ONE IS JUST FROM A FEW YEARS AGO. ESPECIALLY SO I APPLAUD WHAT YOU'VE DONE. I'M GRATEFUL FOR EVERYBODY ON THE TEAM FOR DOING THIS. I LOVE THE INTERVENTION TO GET IN THE WAY OF THESE THINGS, TOO. MITIGATE THE HOMELESSNESS. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THIS. THANK YOU. THANKS, JIMMY. TURN. NEXT ITEM

[Presentation on the Community Land Trust As One Strategy to Implement the Goals of the Root Policy Housing Study]

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IF THEY DON'T SELL THEIR THAN THE CITY, THEN IS THE HOLDER OF THOSE PROPERTIES AND WE CAN SELL THEM THESE DAYS. WE DON'T GET ANY OF THOSE PROPERTIES THEY ALL SELL. I COULDN'T TELL YOU THE LAST TIME WE ACTUALLY HAD A PROPERTY THAT WE GOT TO SELL. THAT WAS BUILDABLE. AT LEAST YOU KNOW, A LOT OF IT IS JUST, UM ON LOTS THAT YOU CAN'T BUILD. UH, IF WE CREATED A LAND BANK PROGRAM, IT WOULD ALLOW US TO PARTNER WITH THOSE ENTITIES WITH OUR TAXING ENTITIES TO HAVE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THEM. THAT THE LANDS WOULD COME TO US FIRST IN A PRIVATE CELL AS OPPOSED TO GOING TO THE CELL. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF CREATING A LAND BANK WITH THOSE LOTS THAT THEN WE CAN PARTNER WITH AGENCIES TO BE OUR COMMUNITY, LAND TRUST NONPROFITS WE KIND OF SPOKE ABOUT DID THIS CITY WANT TO BE THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST? DO WE WANT THE HFC TO BE THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST? AND THE WAY WE'VE KIND OF LOOKED AT IT NOW AND TALKING TO SEVERAL OTHER CITIES THAT DO THIS, AND THE PROCESSES THEY GO THROUGH IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME WAS FOR US TO CREATE THE PROCESS AND AN APPLICATION PROCESS FOR THESE NONPROFITS TO APPLY TO US TO BE A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST A PARTNER WITH US AND THEN WE COULD TAKE THAT. THAT LAND SO THAT LAND TO THEM THAT THEY COULD MAINTAIN THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST SIDE OF IT, BECAUSE, AS WE KNOW THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST MOST OF THOSE ARE 99 YEAR LEASES. I MEAN , YOU CAN DO A LOT LESS. YOU CAN GO DOWN TO 30 45 THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT WE REALLY AREN'T IN IN THAT STAGE OF THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST, WITH ALL THAT'S INVOLVED.

BUT I DEFINITELY THINK WE NEED BOTH THEY PARTNER VERY WELL TOGETHER. YOU DEFINITELY DON'T HAVE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER. UM THEY'RE BOTH VERY IMPORTANT TOOLS THAT WORK AND SO THIS BRINGS US BACK TO THE COMMUNITY INTEREST, WHICH WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. UM SO WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE TODAY IS THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST IN THE LAND BANK. AND KIND OF WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS COULD BE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS WHEN CREATING THE LAND BANK WITH THAT, LIKE I SAID, WE WOULD NEED TO STREAMLINE A PROCESS. WITH OUR TAXING ENTITIES, INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT AND SEE WHAT OUR GOALS ARE FOR THAT AND ENGAGE OUR RESIDENTS AND YOU CREATE A BOARD FOR THAT.

AND JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH CREATING THE PROCESS FOR THE CLT S AS WELL. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. HAVE A QUESTION SO WHAT WOULD THESE. PROPERTIES JUST COME FROM THE CELL OF HOUSE OR LAND THAT HAS BEEN FORFEITED . NO, THAT IS ONLY ONE WAY THAT WE CAN OBTAIN THE PROPERTIES. WE CAN ALSO PURCHASE PROPERTY. FROM PRIVATE CELL AND SOME PEOPLE DONATE PROPERTY. I HADN'T REALLY HEARD OF THAT ONE. BUT IT DOES HAPPEN. THE T SHACK THAT TEXAS STATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CORPORATION THEY HAVE PROPERTY THAT'S DONATED TO THEM FROM DIFFERENT CITIES ACROSS TEXAS, AND THEN THEY COME IN AND BUILD ON THOSE PROPERTIES. SO WHEN SOME WHEN A HOUSE IS FORFEITED, THEY FORECLOSE IS THAT IS THAT THIS COUNTY THAT DOES THAT? WHO DOES THAT? IT'S KIND OF ALL OF US, BUT YES, IT THAT LIST IS COMPILED BECAUSE THEIR MONEY TO THE SCHOOL THEY WANT TO COUNTY THAT EVERYBODY LIKE THAT. AND SO THAT IF, IF $60,000 IS SOLD ARE ON THE HOUSE AND THE PROPERTY FORFEITED IN THE PROPERTY SELLS FOR 100,000. WHO GETS THE 40. WHO GETS. WHO GETS THE OVER RIDGE OF WHAT IS OUT ON THE PROPERTY. IS THAT DIVIDED UP BETWEEN THE ENTITIES? YES SO THE

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I GET THE SIXTIES PAID THE TAXES . THEY'RE ALL FULLY PAID. I SHOULD GET THE 40 RIGHT WRONGS I THOUGHT, WELL, WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY SELLING. WE'RE NOT FORECLOSING ON YOUR HOUSE THAT WOULD GO THROUGH A LENDER AND MORTGAGE COMPANY AND THINGS LIKE THESE ARE USUALLY VACANT LOTS.

OKAY BUT I OWNED A VACANT LOT, THOUGH. I GUESS MY POINT IS THAT DOESN'T BE OWNER ULTIMATELY GET THE NET EQUITY OUT OF IT AFTER THE TAX LIEN DISSATISFIED OKAY, OKAY, BECAUSE BECAUSE THAT WOULD TEND TO MEAN IF THE CITY KIND OF WENT IN AND SAID OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO BUY IT. IF IT'S WORTH 100,000. WE'RE GOING TO BUY IT FOR 65 BECAUSE IT SATISFIES EVERYBODY. THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, AND IT'S USUALLY THOSE PROPERTY THAT IT'S A FLIP, YOU KNOW MORE LOAD ON IT THAN IT'S WORTH. IT'S NOT USUALLY A HOUSE THAT IT'S $100,000 HOUSE, AND THERE'S ONLY $5000 IN TAXES.

OKAY, SO IT HAS TO BE UPSIDE DOWN. YES RIGHT. OKAY OKAY. UM RADIO YOU'VE DONE BECAUSE I HAVE A QUESTION. NO BUT I'M I FORGOT THE OTHER ONE QUEEN CHARLOTTE TRYING TO INTERRUPT ME THEN.

OKAY STARTER HOMES AND WORKFORCE HOUSING PRICE ADDER NEAR BELOW 200,000. THAT'S TOUGH WHEN IT'S A $200,000 HOME, GIVEN THAT THE LAND BANKER LAND TRUST IS INVOLVED IN OWNS THE UNDERLYING PIECE OF PROPERTY IS THE 200,000 . THE STRUCTURE COST ON TOP OF THE LAND THAT THEY DON'T OWN. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR HERE TODAY? IT SURE WOULD BE. YES OKAY. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF REHAB RECONSTRUCTS THAT ARE ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT AND THE OWNERS OWN THE HOMES AND WE'RE KNOCKING DOWN BECAUSE THEY'RE SUBSTANDARD TO REBUILDING THAT, AND THOSE ARE COSTING $250,000 JUST TO BUILD, OKAY? BUT IN THE LAND BANK LAND TRUST SCENARIO, THOUGH, IF YOU WERE TO BUY A STRUCTURE THAT IS 200,000, THERE'S THINGS IN THERE WHERE YOU DON'T OWN THE LAND RIGHT. THE LAND BANK MAINTAINS OWNERSHIP OF THAT. SO IF YOU HAVE TWO LOTS ON THE SAME CANAL STREET, ONE OF THEM IS OWNED BY THE LAND BANK, ONE OF MISS OWNED INDIVIDUALLY, ONE WOULD THINK THE HIGHER EQUITIES IN THE ONE WHICH STAY ON THE LAND TO SO IT MAKES FOR A CHEAPER BUILD, INHERENTLY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE COST OF THE LAND INVOLVED. THANK YOU. AND. HOW MANY OF THESE DO YOU DO YOU COULD WE DO A YEAR? IS IT TO 356 10? I MEAN HOW MUCH IT'S ALMOST LIKE, HOW BIG A DIFFERENCE ARE WE GOING TO MAKE? IN DOING THIS. I MEAN, YOU KNOW 10 TO 15. OKAY YOU'RE MAKING A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE. 2 TO 3. IT'S LIKE IT'S NOT REALLY WORTH THE TIME.

IT'S DEFINITELY NOT THE ONLY TOOL. WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WE DO. I MEAN, THIS IS JUST ONE THING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP MAKE A DIFFERENCE, BUT IT'S A LAW. IT'S A LENGTHY PROCESS, ESPECIALLY STARTING IT OUT, SO IT COULD BE A FEW. LIKE WHETHER WE HAVE PROGRAM WE'RE ABOUT TO BUILD THREE HOUSES FOR THIS YEAR. SO I MEAN, IT'S A PROCESS AND GETTING THOSE NONPROFITS IN TO GET THEM QUALIFIED AS CLT PARTNERING WITH THEM, SO THEY'RE PROBABLY ACTUALLY WOULDN'T BE ANY. THAT WOULD HAPPEN THIS YEAR, BUT I WOULD THINK YOU COULD DO A FEW EACH YEAR. HOW MUCH ARE WE LOOKING AT? PUTTING IN AS A CITY INTO SOME SORT OF FUN TO START THIS GOING THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WE WOULD LOVE THE RP FUNDING. THAT'S KIND OF BEEN, UM YOU'RE MARKED THE MILLION DOLLARS FOR RP FUNDING EARMARKED FOR HOUSING WOULD BE A GREAT START. FOR PURCHASING LAND BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO. JUST AS YOU MENTIONED THE FORECLOSED PROPERTIES. WE CAN ACTUALLY PURCHASE PROPERTY THAT'S OUT THERE AS WELL IN DOLLARS, WHAT WOULD BUY AN ACRE AND A HALF? THERE YOU HAVE TOMMY HOUSES, WE CAN BUILD IT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S IT. I MEAN, IT'S THE MARKET IS KIND OF CRAZY RIGHT NOW. BUT IF WE BACK UP AND LOOK AT 30,000 FT VIEW, WE WILL CYCLE WE WILL HAVE A TIME WHERE THERE'S DISTRESSED PROPERTIES AND THIS IS A TOOL.

LONG TERM THE COMMUNITY IMPLEMENT THAT IT'S VERY UNLIKELY IT'S GOING TO MAKE A BIG DENT IN ITS THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE JUST AREN'T IN THE POSITION WE HAVE. THE DISTRESSED PROPERTIES ARE GETTING SNAPPED UP AND THERE'S EQUITY AND JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW. I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES. OF COURSE YOU COULD PRIME IT, PERHAPS WITH RP FUNDING. AND YOU'VE GOT THE CDC . YOU'VE GOT THEM. HFC YOU'VE GOT, UM PRIVATE CORPORATIONS, BANKS, PERHAPS AS PART OF A COMMUNITY, THEIR COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT ONCE THE PROGRAM BUILDS MOMENTUM, YOU HAVE SIGNIFICANT OPTIONS OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUNDING, AND THEN THE PROGRAM CAN BE A LOT MORE AMBITIOUS. BUT LIKE EVERYTHING, YOU GOTTA START SMALL AND START SOMEWHERE, SO GETTING UP AND RUNNING AS A KEY WERE ESSENTIALLY 3000 UNITS SHORT RIGHT NOW, AREN'T WE? SOMEWHERE THEM AROUND. YES THE ROUTE STUDY, I THINK IDENTIFIES A NUMBER. OF COURSE IT CHANGES AS OUR POPULATION GROWS, AND

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ABSOLUTELY YES. SO. SO WHEN, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN LAND IS PURCHASED TO BUILD A HOUSE. DO DOES THE CITY EVER GET MONEY BACK FOR THAT LAND? WE THEY WILL PURCHASE THAT LAND FROM US. WHO HAVE THE CELTS, THE CELTS THAT WE PARTNER WITH THAT WE WILL TAKE THROUGH AN APPLICATION PROCESS AND APPROVE THEM TO BE A CLT. WE WILL SELL THE LOT TO THEM AND THE CLT WILL HOLD ONTO THE LAND AND SELL THE STRUCTURE TO THE HOME BUYER. OH, OKAY. YES SO OUR FUND CAN JUST CONTINUE TO OKAY JOB IS TO SEE THE SENSE BECAUSE I KEPT THINKING ABOUT GOING TO GET OKAY. WELL I'M READY TO GET GOING. SO WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO TO GET STARTED, YOU GOT MY BOAT. UH. YOU FOR THAT. I APPLAUD YOU FOR ALL OF THIS. THANK YOU FOR THIS. UM UH, I DO. ENTER THIS.

ENTHUSIASTICALLY BUT WITHOUT EXPECTATION THAT'S GOING TO MAKE A BIG DENT IN 2022 OR MAYBE 2023 , BUT IT'LL BE SOMETHING WHEN THINGS CYCLE AGAIN, WHICH THEY DO, YOU KNOW, THEN IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WORKS. RIGHT THANK YOU. THANKS, CRYSTAL. WELL, THE COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS. OR NONE. I MEAN ON ON AGENDA ITEMS, COUNCIL LIAISON UPDATES. I THINK ANYONE SO WE

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