Mar 15, 2022 City Council Work Session on 2022-03-15 3:00 PM

[CALL TO ORDER]

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ALL RIGHT, WE'RE READY. GOOD AFTERNOON CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER TODAY IS TUESDAY, MARCH 15TH THE YEAR 2022 IS THREE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON AND WE'RE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS TO 22,

[PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS]

IN WHAT'S GOING TO BE PRESENTED TO. YOU ALSO DO NOT SEE ANYTHING THAT HAS A YEAR SAID ON IT LIKE WE FUND PARKS AND REC FOR 5.5 FOR 10 YEARS. UM IF YOU WERE GOING TO TAKE THOSE FUNDS FROM US, WE'D LIKE TO SEE IT A TERM LIMIT. MAYBE START OUT WITH FIVE YEARS. THAT WAY, WE CAN SEE THE TRUE IMPACT ON A, D. C AND C D. C A REALIZED THAT ROADS DO CONTRIBUTE TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND QUALITY OF LIFE DEFINITELY REALIZED THAT BUT I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. THEY ARE GOING TO HAPPEN TO CDC IN CDC FUNDING. SHOULD WE GO IN THIS DIRECTION, ESPECIALLY WITH AN UNLIMITED TERM AND I WOULD HOPE THAT LIKE PARKS FOR THIS MONEY, YOU HAVE TO COME BEFORE THESE BOARDS AND MAKE A PRESENTATION SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT EXTRA ASSURANCE FOR THE VOTERS. BUT THESE FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE SPENT. PROPERLY.

THANK YOU. MOVE ON TO DISCUSS REGULAR MEETING AGENDA ITEMS IS THERE THE ITEM ON THE SHORT AGENDA ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH STAFF HERE. SEE NONE WILL MOVE TO OUR WORK

[Update on East McKinney Projects]

WE DID I BELIEVE THREE OF THESE LAST YEAR AND I WILL START WITH A QUICK OVERVIEW AND HOPEFULLY THIS IS FAMILIAR TO WALL, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF EXCITING THINGS HAPPENING ON THE EAST SIDE OF MCKINNEY. SPECIFICALLY EAST OF HIGHWAY FIVE. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD SORT OF A UNIFIED COMMUNICATION ENGAGEMENT EFFORT , SO THAT WHEN WE WERE ASKING RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS FOR FEEDBACK, ALL THE PROJECTS WERE CONNECTED, AND YOU DIDN'T FEEL LIKE YOU WERE BEING HIT. BUY IT FROM ALL SIDES. HERE IS A GREAT VISUAL. THAT KIND OF SHOWS SOME OF THE EXCITING THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. THEY FALL INTO THE CATEGORIES OF INFRASTRUCTURE, PARKS, NEIGHBORHOODS AND HOUSING , REDEVELOPMENT, ARTS, CULTURE AND FESTIVAL AND OUR IMPACT GROUP THAT IS MCKINNEY GROUP. WE HAVE A LEADERSHIP TEAM THAT TRIES TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE CONNECTIONS ARE BEING MADE AND THAT OUR COMMUNICATION IS CENTRALIZED. THERE ARE COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANT TO HAVE IS TAKEAWAYS FOR YOU TODAY AND I PROMISE THIS WILL BE A BRIEF PRESENTATION. FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS A VERY SUMMARIZED OVERVIEW. WE'LL BE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR BIG UPCOMING EVENT. WHICH IS THE EAST COMMUNITY CONVERSATION, AND I'LL ALSO BE GIVING SOME VERY BRIEF PROJECT UPDATES. PLEASE KNOW THAT A LOT MORE INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ON

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AND THIS IS A MUCH BIGGER EVENT THAN THE EVENT THAT WE HELD LAST YEAR OLD SETTLER'S PARK. IT IS INSIDE THE RENOVATED ALL THE SETTLERS FACILITY. THERE ARE SEVERAL INFORMATION STATIONS, MANY MORE THAN WE HAD LAST TIME. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SEPARATE CHILDREN'S AREA. THE MCKINNEY LIBRARY FREE BOOK CART. THERE'S EVEN FREE FOOD AT THIS ONE, WHILE SUPPLIES LAST. THE GOAL HERE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS A FUN AND ENGAGING OPPORTUNITY FOR NEIGHBORS TO CONNECT TO CONNECT WITH EACH OTHER, BUT ALSO CONNECT WITH CITY STAFF AND TO GIVE FEEDBACK ON SEVERAL SEVERAL ADDITIONAL INITIATIVES, INCLUDING NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVATION, STUDY MUNICIPAL COMPLEX, ETCETERA. WE HAVE DONE A REALLY COMPREHENSIVE JOB TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT FOR THIS EVENT. WE ARE VERY THANKFUL FOR OUR LIAISON GROUP, WHICH HAS BEEN THEY'VE BEEN WITH US SINCE THE BEGINNING, AND THEY HELPED GUIDE OUR EFFORTS. SO EVERY TIME WE DO AN ENGAGEMENT EFFORT, WE RUN IT BY THEM. WE TEST OUT CONCEPTS. WE WERE FINE AS WE GO. SO WE HAVE OUR WEBSITE ALL SET UP. WE WILL BE COMMUNICATING THIS VIA SOCIAL MEDIA, OUR E NEWSLETTER FLYERS TARGETED EMAIL CAMPAIGN AND WE UTILIZE OUR LIAISONS. WE FOUND THAT THE ELECTRONIC MESSAGE BOARDS ARE VERY EFFECTIVE AS WELL. AND WE ALSO HAVE PAID ADVERTISEMENTS IN THE COMMUNITY IMPACT NEWSPAPER.

ALL OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS ARE PROVIDED IN BOTH ENGLISH AND IN SPANISH. SO NOW TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE PROJECT UPDATES, AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE ON SHARED NEXT WEEK, AS WELL. FIRST IN THE STREETS CATEGORY. UM, WE HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS GOING ON IN THE STREETS CATEGORY. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE IN DETAIL, BUT OUR STREETS AND TRAFFIC STUDY IS DEFINITELY ONE TO KEEP IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND BECAUSE WE ARE SORT OF SEEKING OUR LAST ROUND OF PUBLIC FEEDBACK AT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING NEXT THURSDAY, AFTER WE HAVE THAT FEEDBACK WILL BREATHE , BRINGING THAT STUDY BACK TO COUNCIL. PROBABLY IN MAY FOR YOUR REVIEW AND ADOPTION. ALSO WE HAVE SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE PROBABLY COMING UNDER CONSTRUCTION FAIRLY SOON. CONTRACTOR RECOMMENDATION FOR EAST LOUISIANA GREEN AND ANDREWS WILL LIKELY BE COMING TO COUNCIL IN EARLY APRIL. AND AFTER THE LAST ROUND OF PUBLIC FEEDBACK NEXT WEEK AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING, WE WILL BE BRINGING BACK THE THROCKMORTON STREET PLACE. NAME CHANGE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. AND THE PARK SIDE . THE OLD SETTLER'S PARK PROJECT CONTINUES TO BE IMPROVED WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT RENOVATIONS AND THE WATLEY PARK SIDE. YOU MAY REMEMBER THIS PROJECT. THERE'S SOME ENVIRONMENTAL REMEDIATION THEY NEEDS TO BE DONE. BUT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS SELECTED A DESIGN CONSULTANT AND THAT IS MOVING FORWARD AND FINALLY, AND THIS IS A NEW ONE. THIS ONE WASN'T ON THE BOARD. THE LAST TIME WE TALKED THE HIGHWAY FIVE PARK FEASIBILITY STUDY, SO WE ARE WORKING WITH KIM LEE HORN TO WORK ON A FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THAT DECK PARK. AND WE WILL BE SETTING UP SOME PROBABLY SMALL GROUP MEETINGS AND THEN HAVE A COUNCIL WORK SESSION LATE APRIL OR EARLY MAY TO GIVE MORE INFORMATION ON ON THE REDEVELOPMENT SIDE. HERE'S ANOTHER AREA WHERE YOU PROBABLY WILL SEE SOME BULLDOZERS AND CONSTRUCTION. ACTUALLY THIS YEAR TOPS IS ALREADY UNDERWAY AND THEY HAVE A TARGET COMPLETION DATE OF LATER THIS YEAR, PROBABLY NOVEMBER. AND THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX, WHICH YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT COULD BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN LATE 2022 AS WELL. AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SIDE. THE NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVATION STUDY IS THE KEY PROJECT HERE THAT CONSULTANTS HAVE BEEN IN THEIR PHASE ONE, UM, BACKGROUND RESEARCH AND MARKET DATA.

SEGMENT FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. THE COMMUNITY CONVERSATION NEXT THURSDAY IS KIND OF THE KICK OFF OF THEIR ENGAGEMENT PERIOD. SO WE WILL BE ASKING FOLKS WHO ATTEND THAT MEETING TO TAKE A PUBLIC SURVEY . THAT PUBLIC SURVEY WILL ALSO BE PUSHED OUT THROUGH SEVERAL

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YEARS SAID STREET TOPPER PROGRAM AND IT'S ACTUALLY A STREET SIGN COOPER PROGRAM. I DON'T WANT FOLKS THINKING THAT WE HAVE AGREED TO FIX ALL THE STATE STREETS STREETS AND COME BACK TO US AND SAY YOU DIDN'T DO WHAT YOU PROMISE. GREAT CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE. THANK YOU. WELL DONE. THANK YOU. I DON'T TO 20234 UPDATE ON MUNICIPAL

[Update on Municipal Complex Development]

ERNIE AND SAM ADAMS IS HERE TONIGHT FROM CONSTRUCTION. UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE MISSING ADRIANUS SWINDLE FROM LAKE FLATOW. SHE WAS GOING TO COME UP AND JOIN US, BUT SHE'S UNDER THE WEATHER. AND WAS UNABLE TO MAKE IT SO I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE THE ITEM. I'M GOING TO TURN THE TIME OVER TO SCOTT TO WALK THROUGH A PRESENTATION THAT GOES THROUGH A LOT OF THE EXTERIOR PLANS FOR THE BUILDING, AS WELL AS THE INTERIOR DESIGN THAT WE'RE TALKING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.

LIKE I SAID, WE'RE AT 100% DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PHASE, MEANING WE'RE GOING TO STEP FORWARD AFTER THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT AND BEGIN THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.

PREPARATION. THE ANTICIPATED GROUNDBREAKING FOR CITY HALL IS FOURTH QUARTER OF THIS YEAR WHERE WE BELIEVE OCTOBER 1ST IS OUR DATE WHERE WE'RE SHOOTING FOR REALLY EXCITED TO GET TO THIS POINT AND WITH THAT ALTERNATIVE TIME OVER TO SCOTT FOR THE PRESENTATION. YOU. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO REPRESENT THE DESIGN TEAM TODAY TO SHARE WITH YOU THE LATEST OF KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT AND SO THROUGH THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AND HOW MUCH WE'VE BEEN TAKING YOUR FEEDBACK IN REALLY WORKING ON THIS DESIGN AND KIND OF EXCITED TO SHARE WITH YOU WHERE WE'RE AT IN REGARDS NOT ONLY FROM THE BUILDING, BUT ALSO THE SITE. AND

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EXCUSE ME, THE EAST SIDE OF OUR SITE. SO HERE'S OUR CITY HALL, VIRGINIA ALONG THE BOTTOM PAGE.

WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE EVENT LAWN AND YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. OUR INSPIRATION IMAGES. WITH THIS EVENT LONG SPACE IS BOOKEND TO THE NORTH WITH THE CITY HALL AND THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WE HAVE A VERY NICE SHAPED PAVILION SO YOU CAN SEE SOME INSPIRATIONAL IMAGE HERE THAT WILL PROVIDE A GREAT SPACE HERE IN THE CIVIC PLAZA TO PROVIDE SHADE. THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND ALSO CREATED VERY NICE SENSE OF PLACE AND DESTINATION FOR US WITH THIS PLAZA. AS WE MOVE ACROSS THE PLAZA TO THE WEST. YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE A COUPLE OF UNIQUE ELEMENTS. ONE OF THOSE IS HIGHLIGHTED HERE WITH THE COURTYARD. AND SO THIS COURTYARD SPACE PROVIDES A HARD SURFACE AREA FOR US TO HAVE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT EVENTS. AND ALSO CREATES A GREAT BOOK END TO THE EVENT SPACE IN THE EVENT ROOM, LOCATED ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF CITY HALL, JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THIS COURTYARD SPACE IS AN INTIMATE SEATING AREA THAT ALLOWS US TO REALLY INCORPORATE SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING AND SOME DEDICATED SEATING COMPONENTS TO REALLY CREATE A NICE DESTINATION. WITH THIS PLAZA. MOVE FURTHER SOUTH. WE'VE GOT A SECOND EVENT LAWN SPACE A LITTLE CLOSER TO VIRGINIA AS WELL AS AN ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE SPACE. BUT YOU'RE SEEING THIS EVENT PLAZA IS REALLY MEANT TO BE A DESTINATION FOR OUR CITY TO DRAW OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND GIVE YOU A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ACTIVITY ZONES AND PLACES TO ENGAGE AROUND CITY HALL. AND LOUIS PICTURE THAT'S ON THERE WITH THE WATER FLOWING OUT OF IT. THAT'S FROM THE PEARL BREWERY IN SAN ANTONIO. CORRECT. I BELIEVE SO. AND SO A LOT OF OUR INSPIRATION CAME FROM THE PEARL DISTRICT IN THE REDEVELOPMENT. WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT A SISTER AND A COUPLE OF CISTERNS ON THIS SITE. ONE OF THOSE IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE AND THEN ANOTHER ONE, IS LOCATED BACK OVER BY THE SHADE PAVILION ON THE FAR EAST SIDE OF THE SITE. AND WE ALSO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL WATER FEATURE RIGHT HERE AT THE EDGE OF THE PLAZA THAT WOULD KIND OF CREATE SOME INTERESTING ATMOSPHERE AS YOU WALK INTO THE CITY HALL DOG RUN SPACE. THIS ONE. MAKE SURE THESE FOLKS WEREN'T CONFUSED THINKING THAT THAT WAS GOING TO SHOW UP IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS, WHEN IT'S INCENT TONIO CORRECT. JUST THE INSPIRATION CAME FROM THE PEARL DISTRICT. AND SO LOOKING FROM THE SITE. WANT TO TAKE A SECOND KIND OF SPIN YOU AROUND THE BUILDING, UNLESS YOU KIND OF SEE HOW THIS HAS BEEN DEVELOPING, AND SO YOU'RE SEEING HERE OF YOU AS IF YOU WERE LOCATED LOOKING BACK TOWARDS THE NORTHWEST. WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE SHAPE ABILITY IN THE FOREGROUND. WE'VE GOT SOME GREAT SIGNAGE OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU'LL SEE MORE OF HERE IN A MOMENT, AS WELL AS THE SIGNAGE OPPORTUNITIES ALONG THE BUILDING. AS I MENTIONED, REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN IDENTIFY THE PLAZA IN THE SPACE AROUND IT. AND SO YOU'RE SEEING A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT SIGNAGE TECHNIQUES THAT ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED THAT RAIN SYSTEM THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED THE SHAPE PAVILIONS THAT PROVIDES A GREAT PLACE TO MEET AND CONNECT. IN PROVIDING AMPLE SAY THROUGHOUT THE SEASONS, AND THEN YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURE, THE CHARACTER ITSELF, AND SO UTILIZING A LOT OF THE BRICK AND STONE AS WELL LOT OF BRICK MATERIAL AS WELL AS METAL PANEL MATERIALS. AND THEN ALLOWING THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE ROOF TO START TO CREATE A CHARACTER INTO ITSELF AS WELL. SO AS WE COME AROUND TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, SO IF WE WERE JUST HAD PARKED ON THE NORTH SIDE AND WALKING TOWARDS CITY HALL, YOU CAN SEE A KEY COMPONENT OF THIS DESIGN HAS BEEN THE DOG ROOM THAT REALLY ALLOWS US TO CONNECT OUR PARKING BACK TO THE CIVIC PLAZA TO THE SOUTH. SO YOU'RE SEEING HERE SOME OF THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE BEING USED A LOT OF THE CONCRETE WITH BRICK ELEMENTS ARE METAL COMPONENT, SOME MASS TIMBER AND WOOD AS WELL. AND THEN WE SPENT SOME TIME REALLY DEVELOPING SOME OF THE CORNISH DETAILS AND WINDOW TREATMENT DETAILS TO REALLY CREATE A CHARACTER. AND TO ITS OWN HERE WITH THE CITY HALL. AS YOU MOVE INTO THE DOG GROUND. YOU'RE SEEING SOME

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HERE ALONG THE DOG RUN YOUR TO SEE MORE OF THOSE CIVIC OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE A DIFFERENT VARIETY OF DIFFERENT VARIETIES OF SPACE. A LITTLE CLOSER INTO THE INJURY. YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME MORE OF THE SIGNAGE OPPORTUNITIES SOME OF THE ROOF ELEMENTS TO KIND OF DRAW YOU IN AND PROVIDE YOU WITH A SENSE OF ENTRY INTO THIS FACILITY HERE TO THE RIGHT WOULD WALK INTO THE COUNCIL. AREAS HERE TO THE LEFT OF THE MAIN CITY HALL SPACES. YOU'RE SEEING THE COURTYARD AREA BACK TO THE LEFT, THEN ALLOWS US ACCESS INTO THE EVENT SPACE. YOU'RE ALSO TAKING NOTICE HERE. SOME OF THE WATER FEATURES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED IN THE CIVIC PLAZA. AS WE WALK IN TOWARDS THE BUILDING A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN EXPLORING OR DIFFERENT SIGNAGE OPPORTUNITIES, AND SO YOU'RE NOTICING HERE ON THE LEFT WHERE WE CAN START TO IDENTIFY CITY HALL ADMINISTRATION VERSUS ON THE RIGHT WHERE IT STARTS TO DOWN, ANNOUNCED THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND PROVIDING JUST A SENSE OF WAY FINDING FOR THIS FACILITY. AND THEN BACK LOOKING AT OUR COUNCIL CHAMBERS. SO HERE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, AND IT REALLY USING THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS TO EXPRESS BOTH THE ARCHITECTURE, CREATING A SENSE OF ARRIVAL AND OPPORTUNITY WITH THE DAY LINING THAT WE'LL SEE HERE IN A SECOND INTO THE COUNCIL CHAMBER THAT COULD THEN SPILL BACK OUT TO THE EVENTS CENTER INTO THE EVENT LINE, ULTIMATELY INTO THE SHAPE PAVILION JUST A LITTLE FURTHER TO THE SOUTH. AS WE WORK OUR WAY AROUND THE COUNCIL CHAMBER NOW LOOKING FROM THE NORTH EAST, YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE WE'VE HAD SOME FURTHER DEVELOPMENTS WITH THIS PORTION OF THE BUILDING. SO BOTTOM LEVEL IS PRIMARILY THE EXECUTIVE CONFERENCE ROOM SPACE . SECOND FLOOR IS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. BECAUSE OF SOME HEAD HEIGHT AND JUST SOME WAYS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY THE DAYLIGHTING. WE'VE SIMPLIFIED THIS PORTION OF THE BUILDING.

WE'VE ALSO INTRODUCED A LITTLE MORE OF OUR WOOD PANELING AS WELL AS SOME OF THE METAL PANELING. ON THIS END OF THE BUILDING. SO THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU A REALLY GOOD FEEL FOR WHERE WE ARE WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OF THE EXTERIOR OF THIS FACILITY AND HOW IT'S COME TOGETHER. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE A SECOND NOW AND START TO TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE INTERIOR SPACES. SO AS WE ARE TO COME IN THE FRONT DOORS GOING TOWARDS THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, YOU'LL SEE WE'VE TRYING TO UTILIZE. A NUMBER OF WAR MATERIALS ARE ALSO STARTING TO EXPRESS SOME OF THE EXTERIOR MATERIALS BACK TO THE INSIDE. AS WE WALK FURTHER TO THESE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE MORE GRAPHIC OPPORTUNITIES TO CELEBRATE THE HISTORY OF MCKINNEY, ALONG WITH SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WILL BE USED TO COMMUNICATE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CHAMBERS AS WELL AS OTHER EVENTS. THAN A VIEW FROM THE CHAMBERS. LOOKING BACK DOWN THAT HALLWAY, YOU'RE GOING TO NOTICE THE TRANSPARENCY IN THE DAYLIGHTING OF THIS COUNCIL CHAMBERS THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.

AND SO ONE OF THE KEY DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT WE WANT TO GET SOME FEEDBACK TODAY FROM THE COUNCIL IF WE CAN IS THE DIOCESE WALL AND SO THAT DIASPORA ALL IS THE WALL THAT'S LOCATED BEHIND AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS WERE FOCUSED ON UTILIZING SOME TYPE OF VARIATION OF ACOUSTICAL PANEL AND SO OUR INSPIRATION IMAGES. THESE ARE ALL EXAMPLES OF THESE VARIETY OF ACOUSTICAL PANELS THAT COULD BE USED. TO CREATE A DIFFERENT SENSE OF SCALE AND PATTERNING ON THAT BACK WALL BUT WANTED TO SEE IF ANY ONE OF THESE THREE IDEAS WOULD RESONATE BEST WITH THE COUNCIL. SO, LOOKING AT THIS FOR INSPIRATION , RESUME, BACKED OUT AND LOOKED

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WE'VE GOT THE CITY SEAL HERE IN THE MIDDLE, AND THEN YOU'RE STARTING TO NOTICE THE VARIATION OF THOSE ACOUSTICAL PANELS TO CREATE THAT GRID, AN OPTION ONE. OPTION TWO IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TAKES A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT PLAYFULNESS TO THE GRID LAYOUT IN SOME OF THE PATTERNING THAT COULD TAKE PLACE. THAN THAT VARIATION HAPPENS YET AGAIN WITH OPTION THREE AND SO, UM, PART OF WHAT WE LIKE. SOME FEEDBACK IS BETWEEN THOSE THREE OPTIONS AS THERE ARE STRONG. PENDANT OR PREFERENCE AS TO WHICH DIRECTION WE SHOULD FURTHER DEVELOP. THINK I LIKE OPTION ONE LIKE I LOOK OPTION ONE END OR THREE. ONE OR THREE, OKAY? IN WAR DON'T LIKE IS THE IS THE DIZZINESS OF TWO AND COURSE THREE. UM THAT ATTEMPTS BUSINESS AS WELL. YES. YEAH ONE WILL BE THE MOST. IT WILL BE BUSY INTO ITSELF. GIVEN THE NATURE OF PICKS, ELATION AND KIND OF THE UNDULATIONS OF THOSE PANELS, BUT ALSO CREATES A LITTLE MORE UNIFORM GRID. IS THERE ANY FUNCTIONAL DIFFERENCE BY HAVING THE ACOUSTIC PANELS WHICH I THINK OF AS SOUND DEADENING OR SOMETHING, AS OPPOSED TO OPTION TWO OR THREE WHICH ARE NOT ACOUSTIC? I'M SORRY. ALL THREE R THREE R. YEAH YEAH, AND SO THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY SERVING A FUNCTION FOR US WITH THE ACOUSTICAL, BUT THEY'RE ALL THREE THE SAME MATERIAL. IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT PATTERNING ON THAT MATERIAL. AND SO OPTION ONE IS BEST REPRESENTED BY THESE IMAGES HERE TWO AND THREE IS BEST REPRESENTED BY THAT TEXTURE AS YOU'RE SEEING THERE. THE EXAM ONE OR THREE. MAYBE THERE'S A MAYBE THERE'S A SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE BETWEENO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. BUT WE JUST HAD TO BE GOOD IF YOU COULD GIVE US A LITTLE DIRECTION OF WHAT YOU LIKED, OR DIDN'T LIKE THESE TO HELP CREATE SOME MORE INSPIRATION. I'LL EXPRESS A VOTE FOR EITHER ONE OR SOME COMBINATION OF ONE AND THREE WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE LARGER ON THE LEFT SIDE. UHH OF THE SEAL. WOULD WHERE IT'S MORE OF A BLOCK FORM. OKAY YOU KNOW SOME COMBINATION OF THE BLOCK FORM AND THE SMALLER I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK FOR ME, I'M A SYMMETRY PERSON. SO THE LEFT VERSUS THE RIGHT SIDE DOESN'T REALLY MEET, BUT I DO LIKE THE VARIATION OF THE PATTERNS JUST FIND SOME SYMMETRY FOR YOU. BUT SOME VARIATION. SO IT WAS TO JUST TOO BUSY JUST SO I CAN MAKE SURE AND COMMUNICATE TO ME. IT IS OKAY. WE WILL TAKE VARIATIONS BETWEEN ONE AND THREE IN PURSUIT FORWARD. THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK. I'M OUT OF MY PAY GRADE ON THIS REFER TO THE OTHERS. THANK YOU, OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. HERE. LET ME KEEP WALKING THROUGH A COUPLE OF MORE INTERIOR SPACE IS ONE OF THESE. THIS IS THE EXECUTIVE CONFERENCE ROOM BEHIND THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS . AND SO YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE JUST SOME OF THE INTERIOR STYLINGS THE USE OF MATERIALS, THE LIGHT FIXTURES AS WELL AS JUST SOME OF THE FURNITURE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED. IN THESE ELEMENTS, BUT THIS WOULD BE A CONVENIENT ACCESS FOR COUNCIL HAVE A GREAT SPACE TO MEET IN AND THEN BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE COUNCIL AREA VERY QUICKLY AND EASILY. ONE OF THE MAJOR DESIGN CHANGES THAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE YOU HAVE LAST SEEN THIS WAS REALLY A REDUCTION OF THE BUILDING AND SO MOSTLY DUE TO BUDGET CONSTRAINTS AND TRYING TO FIT WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS WE HAVE LOOKED AT A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES AND WORKING WITH POPE. CONSTRUCTION THROUGH SOME PRICING HAVE DETERMINED THAT WE'VE DONE ABOUT A 20,000 SQUARE FOOT REDUCTION. AND SO THAT PRIMARILY CAME OFF REDUCING ACTUALLY SHIFTING THE BUILDING, 15 FT TOWARDS THE EAST AND ABOUT 10 FT. TOWARDS THE SOUTH. THAT WAS ALSO IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE SETBACK AND EASEMENT REQUIREMENTS THAT WE NEED TO FACILITATE ALONG THE RAIL LINE. AND WITH THAT, THAT AS WE DID A LONG I'LL KEEP GOING. WHEN WE

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KIND OF SHOW YOU WHERE WE'RE THINKING EACH OF THESE DEPARTMENTS WOULD START TO BE SITUATED IN THE NEW FACILITY, SO STARTING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING THE AREAS IN GREEN REPRESENT THAT FRONT LOBBY TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS COUNCIL CHAMBERS IN THIS LOWER QUADRANT.

EXECUTIVE EXECUTIVE CONFERENCE ROOM SPACE BACK BEHIND HIS OFFICE, AND THEN WE'VE GOT THREE DIFFERENT BULLPEN AREAS WHICH INCLUDES AND I CAN'T READ ALL THESE HERE, BUT I THINK COMMUNICATION ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT. ANIMAL CONTROL. IS THAT WHAT I'M SEEING? YEP THERE YOU GO. ANIMAL CONTROLLABILITY INSPECTIONS ARE DOWN IN THOSE AREAS HERE TO THE WEST. YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE THE AREAS IN BLUE. THESE REPRESENT THE MULTITUDE OF MEETING ROOMS AND CONFERENCE ROOMS. THIS AREA IN THE DARKER BLUE REPRESENTS THAT KIND OF FRONT DOOR LOBBY SPACE THAT HAS GREAT EXCESS ARE GREAT VIEWS BACK TO THE SOUTH TO OVERLOOK THE CIVIC PLAZA. AS WE MOVE TO THESE AREAS TO THE NORTH HERE, THESE ARE MORE BACK OF HOUSE FUNCTIONS WITH MUD ROOMS AND A LOT OF OUR BUILDING SERVICES AND SPACES AND LOADING DOCKS AND THEN BACK ON THE BOTTOM LEVEL. WE'VE GOT UTILITIES IN I T OR TO MARRY. PRIMARY DEVELOPMENTS ARE DEPARTMENTS I SHOULD SAY IN THIS AREA IN RED, WHICH IS IMMEDIATELY ACCESSIBLE OFF THIS FRONT LOBBY IS THE EVENT ROOM SPACE AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME MORE IMAGES OF WHAT THIS HAS BECOME. THAT HAS SOME GREAT ACCESSIBILITY AND VIEWS BACK TOWARDS THE COURTYARD. AS WE MOVE UP TO LEVEL TWO STARTING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING. WE'VE GOT OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AS WELL AS OUR CITY SECRETARY, AND THEN WE'VE GOT BUILDING INSPECTIONS PLANNING HERE IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER AND ENGINEERING HERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE. SO THAT AREAS IN RED THAT ARE HATCHED OR PART OF THAT PUBLIC SPACE AS WELL. THAT ALLOWS US TO HAVE CONVENIENT ACCESS TO EACH OF THESE DEPARTMENTS, AND THEN IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IN EACH OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND OUR DEPARTMENTS, WE'VE GOT A GREAT COLLABORATION AND BREAK ROOM SPACES AS WELL AS SECONDARY CONFERENCE AND MEETING TEAM MEETING SPACES. EACH OF THESE DEPARTMENTS SPACES HAS A COMBINATION OF WORKSTATIONS AND OFFICES AS WELL AS FLEX MEETING AND COLLABORATION SPACES. MOVING UP TO THE THIRD FLOOR. WE'VE GOT HUMAN RESOURCES, CODE SERVICES, HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS PARKS AND SO HERE AGAIN, THE ARIAN RED REPRESENTS THAT. CONNECTING SPACE BETWEEN THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS, AND THEN YOU'RE SEEING THESE AREAS IN ORANGE, REPRESENTING TEAM ROOMS AND COLLABORATION SPACES, AS WELL AS THE DIFFERENT BREAK AREAS THAT CAN BE UTILIZED THROUGHOUT THE SPACE. AND THEN MOVING UP TO THE FOURTH FLOOR. WE'VE GOT FINANCE ADDITIONAL FINANCE OFFICES, PROCUREMENT SERVICES AND THEN

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THROUGH SOME OF THE OTHER ARTWORK AND OTHER ART DISPLAYS. SO AS WE GO FROM LEVEL ONE AND TWO, YOU'RE SEEING THE PALETTE OF MATERIALS THAT REPRESENT HERE ON THE SCREEN. AS WE MOVE UP, WE START TO INCORPORATE DIFFERENT COLOR SCHEME WANTED TO SIGNIFY DIFFERENT LEVELS ALSO TO REPRESENT SOME OF THE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS ON THOSE FLOORS. FOR EXAMPLE, PARKS TAKES A LARGE PORTION OF THE THIRD LEVEL AND SO INCORPORATING SOME OF THE NATURAL EARTH TONES BACK ON LEVEL THREE AND THE MOST I T SITUATED ON THE FOURTH FLOOR, USING SOME OF THE MORE COOL BLUES TO REPRESENT SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY. OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE. WE'RE NOT OVER DOING IT WITH THE COLOR. WE HOPE WE'RE TRYING TO STILL USE OUR BASE COLOR PALETTE THROUGHOUT, BUT THEN CHOOSING TO ACCENT CURTAIN CERTAIN KEY ELEMENTS IN THE BUILDING, WHETHER IT'S THE CEILINGS, WHETHER IT'S THE FLOORS SOME OF THE WALLS, MAYBE SOME OF THE FURNITURE TO INCORPORATE THOSE ACCENT MOMENTS THROUGHOUT EACH FOUR. AND THEN ON THE FIFTH FLOOR, THE CONFERENCE CENTER. YOU'RE SEEING IT AGAIN. JUST SOME OF THE HOSPITALITY WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE USING THE CONFERENCE CENTER, GIVING THEM BOTH THE FUNCTIONAL SPACE WITHIN THE ROOMS, BUT ALSO SEATING AREAS IN AMENITIES TO REALLY MAKE THIS A MODERN CONFERENCE CENTER AMENITY FOR THE CITY. AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER. SOME OF THESE SPACES ALL THE SPACES ON THE FIFTH FLOOR, HAVE SOME ACCESS TO OUTDOOR ENVIRONMENTS AS WELL. SO WE'VE GOT SOME OF THESE ROOFTOP TERRACES PROVIDE JUST FANTASTIC VIEWS BACK TO THE EAST TO THE CIVIC PLAZA TO THE SOUTH, AS WELL AS BACK TO WEST TOWARDS DOWNTOWN. AND THEN BACK TO THE FIRST FLOOR FOR A MOMENT. THIS IS THE EVENT CENTER. YOU'VE SEEN THIS IMAGE BEFORE, BUT YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE IT A LITTLE MORE REFINED. UTILIZING SOME OF THE WOOD PANELING CAN ALSO CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TELL SOME STORIES OF HISTORY. WITH THESE PANELS AS WELL AS SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY IN THE ROOM, AND THEN IF WE WERE TO SPEND YOUR AROUND, LOOK BACK OUT. YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE HOW THIS ROOM CREATES A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT OUT TO THAT COURTYARD SPACE. AND SO YOU'VE GOT SOME DIRECT ACCESS FROM THE EVENT CENTER BACK TO THE COURTYARD. AND SO TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A FINAL PICTURE OF WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY. WE HAVE FINISHED DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, SO WE ARE PUTTING THE FINISHING TOUCHES ON THE DESIGN, BEGINNING TO MOVE INTO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS TO MAKE A CONSTRUCTION SET READY FOR CONSTRUCTION. THE TARGET BUDGET IS 95 MILLION, AND WE'RE WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH POPE TO GET BACK TOWARDS THAT BUDGET PARTICIPATED. CONSTRUCTION START FOURTH QUARTER OF THIS YEAR AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE ANTICIPATING ABOUT 24 MONTHS OF CONSTRUCTION WOULD PUT US IN FOURTH QUARTER OF 2024 TO

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[Presentation on Pavement Management Plan - Funding Scenarios]

ALL RIGHT. WELL GOOD AFTERNOON. MAYOR CITY COUNCIL. RYAN GILLING HAM DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. SO I'M HERE TODAY TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PLANS. SO THIS IS THIS WILL BE OUR FOURTH PRESENTATION ON THIS TOPIC. SO THE FIRST TWO PRESENTATIONS WE HAD ON THIS TOPIC GENERALLY CENTERED AROUND THE ROADWAY CONDITION. WHAT WERE THE ROBOT COST? SECOND PRESENTATION GENERALLY FOCUSED ON AVAILABLE FUNDING SOURCES FOR ROADWAYS.

AND THEN THE LAST PRESENTATION THAT WE HAD FOCUSED SPECIFICALLY ON SEVERAL UM, SPECIFIC FUNDING SCENARIOS. SO THIS IS WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE THIRD MEETING. FIRST THAT ROADWAYS NEED TO BE FUNDED AT A HIGHER LEVEL. SECOND THE COUNCIL HAD SUPPORT FOR LONG TERM SUSTAINABLE FUNDING SOURCES FOR ROADWAYS THAT GROWS OVER TIME. THIRD THAT THE QUARTER CENT ROADWAY MAINTENANCE SALES TAX WAS NOT A PREFERRED OPTION. FOURTH THE RAILWAY MAINTENANCE FEE COULD SUPPLEMENT OTHER FUNDING SOURCES. SO THIS WAS PUTTING THE FEE ON THE WATER BILL. SIT PHASING IN A ROADWAY FUNDING IS PREFERRED. AND THEN LASTLY COUNCIL PROVIDED DIRECTION FOR CITY STAFF TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT FUNDING SOURCES . THEY USED A COMBINATION OF FUNDS, SO THIS WOULD BE GENERAL FUNDS BONDS AS WELL AS M E D C M CDC SUPPORT AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT TODAY REALLY? ARE THE THREE OPTIONS OR THE COMBINATION OF OPTIONS. UM FOR SEVERAL THROUGH OUR THREE SPECIFIC FUNDING SOURCES, SO THE FIRST OPTION IS A COMBINATION OF BONDS IN GENERAL FUND, AND THEY'RE ALL COMBINATIONS OF DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES. THE OTHER TWO OPTIONS ARE COMBINATIONS OF BOND FUNDS, GENERAL FUNDS AS WELL AS ME, DC MM. CDC SUPPORT AND WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO EACH ONE OF THESE IN MORE DETAIL HERE IN A SECOND. SO THE FIRST OPTION, WHICH IS THE BONDS IN GENERAL FUNDS, SO IF YOU'LL RECALL ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE STRIVING FOR IS TO ACHIEVE AN APPROXIMATE $20 MILLION AND ROADWAY FUNDING AND SO, WHERE WE GET THERE WITH THIS OPTION IS THROUGH A COMBINATION OF THE GENERAL FUNDS, EXISTING BONDS AND NEW BONDS. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART HERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE BLUE BARS REPRESENT THE GENERAL FUND AND THOSE ARE ASSUMED TO INCREASE AT 3% PER YEAR. THE ORANGE REPRESENTS THE EXISTING BODY LEVEL OF $5 MILLION IN THIS PROPOSED TO CONTINUE AND THEN THE YELLOW REPRESENTS THE NEW BOND, WHICH IS THE $100 MILLION BONDS, OR $10. MILLION ARE 10 MILLION FOR 10 YEARS AND YOU CAN SEE HOW WE GET TO THE APPROXIMATE AMOUNT OF $20 MILLION THE SECOND OPTION IS

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AND THEN LASTLY, UM, SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDED TO FUND ROADWAYS AT A HIGHER LEVEL. HOW WOULD WE SPEND THAT MONEY? ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE. YOU CAN SEE THE CURRENT BUDGET OF WHAT WE SPEND, WHICH IS ABOUT $9.3 MILLION AND ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE TOTAL OF $20 MILLION AND HOW THAT AMOUNT WOULD BE SPLIT BETWEEN OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE REHABILITATION AS WELL AS RECONSTRUCTION. AND WITH THAT I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS BEFORE WE HAVE SOME DISCUSSION. THANK YOU. YEAH IF WE CAN GO BACK FOR DISCUSSION TO THE BAR CHART SLIDE. THIS ONE. I HAD ONE COMMENT. GOING BACK TO MRS BREWERS. UM COMMENTS EARLIER. UM UNDER THESE SCENARIOS AND THE ONE WHERE WE GOT AWAY FROM DOING A REFERENDUM. THIS GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY TO LOOK AT THIS EVERY YEAR IF WE NEED TO EXACT CORRECT I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO DO, THOUGH, IS IF WE GO DOWN THIS ROAD THINK THE DISCUSSION WILL CENTER AROUND IF IT MAKES SENSE TO MAKE THIS PART OF THEIR PART OF THE CHARTER, SO IT'S NOT AN ANNUAL, UM, ASK THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO CREATE A SUSTAINABLE FUNDING SOURCE. AND IF I COULD LET ME I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOUR NOW GO AHEAD. BUT LET ME JUST SAY BECAUSE I'VE HEARD IT SEVERAL TIMES. I HEARD IT AGAIN TODAY ABOUT WHAT VOTER EXPECTATION IS AND MAKING AND NOT DEVIATING FROM FROM THE FROM WHAT THE VOTER EXPECTATION WAS WHEN THIS WAS APPROVED. AND THE REALITY IS IF ANYONE TOOK THE TIME TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE BALLAD AND THE LANGUAGE ON THE PROPOSITION. ONE OF THE ITEMS PROMINENTLY DISPLAYED HIS REPLACEMENT OR PROVISION OF

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GRATIFICATION FOR EVERYONE. SORRY. GO AHEAD. NO, IT'S THAT'S ALL I HAD. OTHER. ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS AND AGAIN WE WHAT'S BEING ASKED TODAY IS SOME DIRECTION SO WE SHOULD HAVE DISCUSSION. AND WHERE PEOPLE WHERE WERE WE ALL? SEE. OURSELVES ON THE THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. AT LEAST THEY'VE BEEN PRESENTED WERE IF THERE IS ANY ANYONE THAT HAS A DESIRE TO PURSUE SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS PRESENTED. THE OPTION ONE WITH RESPECT TO THE GENERAL FUND IN THE AMOUNT OF EXTRA BONDING IN THE YELLOW. SORRY, RYAN. THANK YOU. UM THAT'S A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT REALITY IS ANOTHER WORDS THERE COULD BE A VERY FAIR ARGUMENT MADE THAT HEY , THE CITY COULD CUT X Y AND Z INSTEAD OF LOOKING FOR CUTS, ADOPTION TWO AND THREE AND ESSENTIALLY THE GROWTH OF E. D. C AND C. D. C. UM SO WHAT? I'M EXPECTING THIS IS BUT I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE IS. IS THIS A BONA FIDE ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT WE REALLY CAN DO WITH GENERAL FUNDS , THE BLUE OR IS THERE SOME PATH FORWARD TO MAKING THE BLUE A LITTLE BIT TALLER IN HERE AND THEN SOMETHING ELSE? A LITTLE BIT SHORTER. WELL I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A QUESTION. HERE WE GO HERE. I'M HAPPY FOR ANYONE TO ANSWER IT. THERE'S MY MAN RIGHT THERE. BEETHOVEN IS CUTE. SO THE QUESTION IS, IS THERE A WAY TO GROW THE BACKSTOP BLUE BAR THERE AND I'M JUST GOING TO PLAY DEVIL'S ADVOCATE MARK, YOU KNOW? HEY, CAN'T WE CUT SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE WE'RE CUTTING INTO THE GROWTH OF CDC AND CDC ISN'T THERE SOMEWHERE ELSE WE CAN CUT FOR THIS? THAT MAKES SENSE. AND I REALIZED THAT THAT'S THE $64,000 QUESTION THERE AT THE END. I WOULD JUST SIMPLY STATE THIS. THAT WOULD BE A POLICY DECISION BY YOU GUYS ARE, UH, THE GENERAL FUND IS THE GENERAL FUND AND YOU CAN MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AS YOU AS YOU CHOSE OKAY, AND THE COUNCIL'S MADE DECISIONS GOING FOR YOU KNOW, WITH RESPECT TO THAT, AND ME BEING THE NEW GUY IN COUNCIL. I LOVE SOME REMARKS FROM EXISTING PEOPLE ON COUNCIL. WHAT YOU KNOW WHAT THEY THINK OF THAT BEFORE I MAKE ANY OTHER REMARK. YEAH I WOULD SAY THIS, I WOULD SAY FIRST FILE ALSO SERVED ON CDC FOR FIVE YEARS. SEVERAL YEARS. I WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF THAT BOARD. I WAS CHARGED WITH SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS, APEX SAY, UM YOU KNOW, IT NEVER WAS LOST ON ME THAT I WAS APPOINTED BY COUNCIL AND THAT WE WERE A COG IN THE WHEEL THAT WE WERE A BRANCH IF YOU WILL, AT THE END OF THE DAY, REALLY, UM, AS A SUPPORTING ENTITY FOR ALL BUSINESS AND ADVANCEMENT OF THE COMMUNITY, SO I NEVER I ALWAYS HAVE AN ISSUE WHEN I HEAR OUR MONEY. IT'S ALL THE MONEY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CDC E. D. C GENERAL FUND DOLLARS. ALL OF THE MONEY IS TAXPAYER DOLLARS. YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THAT. AND SO IT'S I ALWAYS HAVE AN ISSUE WHEN I HEAR THAT. I'VE NEVER USED THAT. AT LEAST I DON'T REMEMBER EVER USING THAT LANGUAGE. I AGAIN ALWAYS APPRECIATE THE FACT I WAS APPOINTED BY COUNCIL AND I FELT LIKE I WAS THERE TO SUPPORT COUNCIL AS THE ELECTED BODIES, YOU KNOW DIRECTIVES. IT WHAT WE'RE FACED WITH IS WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS IS CAN WE USE MORE GENERAL FUNDS? YOU KNOW, I'M SURE WE CAN. WE COULD DO THAT WE COULD RAISE PROPERTY TAXES. WE CAN BOND WE CAN RAISE PROPERTY TAXES, TOO. TO PAY THAT DEBT SERVICE AND IT'S PROBABLY ULTIMATELY BE SOME COMBINATION OF ALL THE THINGS WE'RE DISCUSSING. BUT THE. YOU KNOW WE ARE WHERE WE ARE, AND WE ARE IN A PLACE RIGHT NOW. WE ALL KNOW WHERE ARE WITH THE ROAD SCORES ARE WE'VE GOTTEN EDUCATION MORE THAN WE PROBABLY EVER THOUGHT WE

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BOTH OPTIONS TWO AND THREE. UNDERSTOOD? YES. TWO AND THREE, OKAY? NOW WHAT OPTION? THREE DOZEN. I'M PUTTING MYSELF BACK ON THE KEYBOARD IS IT ALLOWS ME TO FEEL LIKE I'VE GOT SOME SKIN IN THE GAME BEFORE I FOUND MY KNEE DC I STILL OUR CDC TWO, BUT IT ALLOWS ME TO THINK. OKAY WHEN I'M HEARING THESE REPORTS FROM CHANCELLOR OR HOLLOWAY EVERY MONTH ABOUT THE SALES TAX INCREASES WE'RE STILL DOING GOOD. UM. BUT THE FIRST VOTE THAT I EVER MADE AS A YOUNG MAN WAS FOR MY REPRESENTATIVE, A GUY NAMED PHIL GRAMM. SOME OF Y'ALL MAY REMEMBER HIM AND HE WAS A SENATOR HERE IN TEXAS. BUT BEFORE THAT HE WAS A CONGRESSMAN, AND HE WAS A DEMOCRAT. AND HE PLAYED BALL WITH A GUY NAMED DAVID STOCKMAN , WHO WAS ROUND REAGAN'S BUDGET COUNSELOR, AND THE DEMOCRATS TOOK HIM OFF HIS BUDGET SEAT BECAUSE I DIDN'T LIKE THAT. SO WHAT GRAHAM DID IS HE SWITCHED PARTIES, BUT HE HAD SWITCHED PARTIES. HE RESIGNED. AND HE SAID, I'M GOING TO RUN AGAIN. GIVE THE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO VOTE FOR ME TO REPUBLICAN. HE WON AND THAT WAS MY FIRST VOTE, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT HERE. WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS THIS PHIL GRAMM HAD A VERY SIMPLE BUT BRILLIANT RULE THAT I'VE ONLY REALLY BECOME TO APPRECIATE UNTIL UNTIL RECENTLY , SOME UP HERE AND IT WAS CALLED THE DICKIE FLATT RULE. DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER THE DICKIE FLATT RULE BESIDES ME? WOW, MAN . Y'ALL OKAY, SO DICKIE FLATT WAS PHIL GRAMM'S FRIEND IN MADAYA, TEXAS AT DICKIE FLATT WAS A PRINTER ONTO PRINTING COMPANY AND PHIL SAID, EVERY TIME I SAW DICKIE HIT INK STAINED HANDS, THE INK WOULD NEVER COME OUT OF HIS HANDS. AND SO WHAT? PHIL? GRAMM SAID TO HIMSELF IS ANY TIME I'M GOING TO VOTE TO RAISE TAXES? I'M GOING TO THINK. CAN I LOOK DICKIE FLATT IN THE EYE AND TELL HIM WHY IT'S A HELL OF A SIMPLE, GREAT RULE. WELL PATRICK HAS AN 80 SIMMONS RULE. ON MY CAMPAIGN AIDE SIMMONS. SOME OF Y'ALL MAY NOT KNOW. I KNOW SOME OF Y'ALL DO CAMP TO ME AND TALKED ABOUT HER TAXES. VERY FEW PEOPLE DO AS MUCH FOR THIS CITY QUIETLY AND LOVINGLY IS 80 SIMMONS. AND SO WHAT I HAVE TO DO IS ASK MYSELF.

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WHAT'S THE TERM GOING TO BE? HOW LONG DO WE WANT TO PUT THIS IN PLACE? AND OR DO YOU? YOU WANT A SUNSET IT AT A CERTAIN POINT IN TIME, OR DO YOU JUST KEEP IT ON INTO PERPETUITY? THOSE ARE SOME MORE DECISION POINTS TO COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO MAKE IN TERMS OF HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

HOW ABOUT THE BONDS? I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT VOTERS NEED TO APPROVE? SO UNDER THE SCENARIO ONE WHICH WOULD BE WHAT WHAT I'M HEARING IS YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN THAT. BUT IF HE DID THREE, SO OPTION THREE IS A COMBINATION BUT THE YELLOW, WHICH IS THE DEBTS SERVICE. THT WOULD BE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR ROAD BONDS EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS . SO THE NEXT TIME WE DO A BOND, UH, ELECTION WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE ROAD BONDS JUST BECAUSE THERE'S NEW ROADS THAT NEED TO BE DONE, SO THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME DEBT ISSUED. YOU CAN. ALSO THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT INSTRUMENTS WE CAN USE, BUT THAT'S ENTIRELY DISCRETIONARY ON THE CITY COUNCIL. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. YOU COULD JUST SAY WE'RE GOING TO GROW OUR ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND. BY STICKING WITH THE GRAY AND BUILD IT UP OVER TIME, AND YOU KNOW NOT. WE JUST WON'T GET TO 20 MILLION RIGHT AWAY. WE'LL GET WHAT WE CAN. WE'RE SHOWING THE YELLOW.

THERE IS AN OPTION FOR YOU. IF YOU CHOSE TO KICK OFF KICK, START THE PROGRAM AT 20 MILLION AND GET A BIG JUMP ON IT. THAT'S HOW YOU COULD DO THAT YOU CAN ISSUE DEBT IN THE NEAR TERM AND THEN IT'S A SMALLER AMOUNT, AND IT WOULD FADE OUT OVER TIME. AS THE GREAT GROWS IS THE GRAY SECTION GROWS. WE'RE GOING NOWHERE WITH THOSE BONDS COME FROM. WE CURRENTLY HAVE BOND AUTHORIZATION RIGHT NOW FOR ROADS SO WE WOULD EITHER HAVE TO USE SOME OF THAT, MR HOLLOWAY.

YOU WANT TO THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME CEOS OR SOME OTHER AVENUES . WE COULD TAKE TWO. SO THERE'S SEVERAL OPTIONS HERE. CLEARLY AS PAUL MENTIONED, WE HAVE AUTHORIZATION STILL AROUND $80 MILLION OUT OF 2019. UM BOND AUTHORIZATION WILL BE ISSUED OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. UM SO WE COULD START ISSUING FROM THAT , THEN WE'RE POSSIBLY GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER BOND ELECTION IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS, WHICH WE COULD ADD TO THESE IF YOU WANTED TO GO THE GEO BONDING ROUTE FOR TO CONTINUE WITH THE YELLOW PORTION THERE. ALSO IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE THE ELECTION , WE CAN. WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE OPTION OF DOING A CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. JUST CEOS, WHICH WE CAN ISSUE AT ANY TIME FOR ROADS, SHORTER TERM RETURNED. PAY A LITTLE MORE MONEY, LITTLE BIT A LITTLE BIT HIGHER INTEREST. YOU CAN STILL DO THOSE FOR 20 YEARS OR ANY TERM THAT WITHIN THAT OUR USUAL GUIDELINES THERE, BUT WE COULD DO CEOS WITHOUT SO ARE THE BONDS THAT WE THAT THE CITIZENS VOTED FOR LAST TIME WITH THOSE FOR NEW ROADS AND CANNOT BE USED FOR EXISTING ROADS CAN BE USED ON EXISTING. OKAY, SO GENERIC, OKAY SO WE CAN USE PART OF THAT, MEANING WE MIGHT HAVE TO GO TO THE VOTERS A LITTLE BIT SOONER, MAYBE A YEAR EARLIER. TO GET SOME MORE BONDS ISSUED FOR THE ROADS. YES, SIR. OKAY, WE COULD DO THAT. IT WAS WORTH OF BONDS OR THE PRODUCT OF A COMMITTEE MADE UP OF CITIZENS WHO RECOMMENDED AN AMOUNT FOR EACH OF THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF BONDS. CORRECT YES, AND THEN IT WAS PRESENTED FOR AN ELECTION BY THE CITIZENS OF MCKINNEY. LOT AUTHORIZED WAS AT 100 MILLION FOR ROADWAYS. YES OR 100 MILLION. AND TOLD JUST AGAIN TO REMIND EVERYONE THIS CHART IS BASED ON AN ASSUMPTION OF 4% GROWTH. OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS WE'VE SEEN AN AVERAGE OF AND OF COURSE OF COVID IS IN THE MIDST OF THOSE FIVE YEARS, BUT OUR AVERAGE HAS BEEN STILL, YOU KNOW , LOOKING AT THE LAST 22 YEARS HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW. FAIRLY DOUBLE DIGITS OR MORE FAIRLY HARD, BUT WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING CLOSE TO BETWEEN FOUR AND 7% BEFORE THAT, AND THEN THE LAST FEW YEARS SINCE THE LEGISLATURE MADE THE CHANGE. WE'VE SEEN DOUBLE DIGIT INCREASES. IS THIS GOING TO HAMPER US AS FAR AS NEW

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BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING. WE'VE HAD 12 14 16% INCREASES THIS YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE AN EIGHT YEAH, WHICH THIS YEAR ESPECIALLY. WE'RE SEEING SOME WHICH ALL OF OUR BUDGETS, AND ALL OF OUR ENTITIES WERE BASED ON 4% PROJECTIONS UP UNTIL JUST JUST A SHORT TIME AGO. CORRECT.

AND THIS IS EVEN CONTEMPLATING 4. I'D LIKE TO POINT SOMETHING OUT. I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE IN CDC AND E. D. C. AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S NOBODY AFFILIATED WITH THOSE BOARDS THAT THAT WANTS CRAPPY ROADS WAS WILLING TO ACCEPT THEM. I UNDERSTAND THE LOVE FROM MCKINNEY AND THE COMMITMENT TO THE CITY MCKINNEY THAT YOU'VE ALL DEMONSTRATED. AH I UNDERSTAND THE, UH THE HOW YOU GO TO BED, THINKING OF WAYS TO MAKE THE CITY BETTER AND DOING IT AND OPERATING LIKE THAT, SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT THERE IS NOBODY WHO WOULD TAKE OPTION ZERO, WHICH IS LET'S HAVE CRAP ROADS. I KNOW THAT. I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT. AH THIS IS JUST WE ARE WHERE WE ARE, AND I'M NOT GONNA REPEAT ANY MORE THAN WHAT I SAID. BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOU ALL. I TEND TO BE VERY PROTECTIVE OF CDC AND CDC FILES. AND I'VE SEEN OVER THE YEARS THE PROJECTS AND EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT INTO THE CITY. UM AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT CDC AND NBC HAS DONE FOR THIS CITY. BUT HAVING SAID THAT I UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHERE WE ARE IN THIS DYNAMIC. AND WE DO NEED TO REPAIR OUR STREETS. WE DON'T NEED TO RAISE TAXES, AND THIS SEEMS LIKE A VERY GOOD COMPROMISE. ESPECIALLY OPTION THREE. SO I'M IN FAVOR OF OPTION THREE. I HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING BECAUSE PATRICK AND THE MAYOR SAID IT VERY WELL. BUT I'M I'M IN FAVOR OF OPTION THREE, BUT I WILL ADD MR GRAHAM'S YOU MENTIONED THE OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO US FOR THE GAP ON THE OTHER SIDE OF DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE JUMP START THAT. IN SOME WAY BECAUSE THERE ARE QUITE A BIT OF DEFERRED. STREETS IN THERE, SO JUST ENSURING THAT WE FIND A WAY TO DO THAT. I WOULD SAY I'M IN FAVOR OF THE BONDS AS WELL. LET'S GET THAT KICKSTARTED START FIXING ROADS. WE HAVE CONSENSUS. SO YES, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL NOW MOVE

[COUNCIL LIAISON UPDATES Regarding various City Boards & Commissions]

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WHOLE LOT OF HEADACHE. AND I WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT, AND WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS MAKEUP ON THAT BOARD. VERY PROUD OF THEM IN THE WORK THAT THEY DO FOR THE CITY, AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT THE WORK. THEY'RE SAVING YOU. SO THANK YOU. DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. NOTHING YOU WILL

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