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GOO, APRIL, THE 50 YEAR 2022 WERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 603 IN THE EVENING WERE 2 22, NORTH TENNESSEE STREET, THE GREAT CITY OF MCKINNEY. FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS WILL BE AN INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE INDICATION WILL BE GIVEN BY ROBERT EARLIER FROM MCKINNEY. CHRISTIAN ACADEMY. HOPE I PRONOUNCE THE NAME CROW, ROBERT.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN PRAYER. DEAR LORD, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP HERE. AND YOU, ARE YOU I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE FREE COUNTRY THAT WE LIVE IN. THANK YOU FOR THIS PROCESS THAT WE ARE ABOUT TO EXPERIENCE ESPECIALLY PRAY FOR OUR LEADERS HERE TONIGHT THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM GUIDANCE AND WISDOM AND WHAT THEY DO. I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD DIRECT ALL OF US IN HONORING YOU. THANK YOU, FATHER FOR ALSO BEING ABLE TO RECOGNIZE OUR BASKETBALL TEAM AND THEY TO PRAISE YOU FOR WHAT THEY WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH. AND I KNOW THEY WANT TO GIVE THE GLORY TO YOU. THANK YOU FOR WHO YOU ARE. AND ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR US AND YOUR PRECIOUS FUNDS NAME, I PRAY. AMEN. ADAM GOOD TO SEE YOU GOING TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. YES, SIR. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES, STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD. INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY JUSTICE WRONG. THANKS, SIR. MOVED TO INFORMATION SHARING ITEMS TO 20284 RECOGNITION OF MCKINNEY
[Recognition of McKinney Christian Academy, TAPPS State 5A Boys Basketball Champions]
CHRISTIAN ACADEMY. TA PPS. TAP STATE FIVE A BOYS BASKETBALL CHAMPIONS. CHRISTIAN ACADEMY, THE HEAD COACH JAMES WHEELER, ASSISTANT COACH FONZO MARTINEZ, ASSISTANT COAST COACH ASHANTI LONG AND DISTANT COACH NATHAN HAMBLETON. THE PLAYERS. NO, A WHEELER. JALEN WHEELER, ADAM CURTIS. JAYLIN JOHNSON, ZEKE LONG, BOBBY MUK WARD, NATE MCCANN, UH, MCMAHON JAMISON THROUGH OUR OR THROWER? SORRY, JACK. LIEBLING JOSH THROWER SEBASTIAN CLAUDIO JACK'S MARSHAL , NATHAN ROACH. SO TEAM AND COACHES WHO'S HERE. COULD YOU COME ON UP AND LET US LOVE ON YOU FOR A MINUTE? MHM. YEAH. YEAH OKAY. YOU. YEAH COACH. I DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON YOU. AND I HOPE MY SOURCE IS GOOD. BUT YOU WON A HIGH SCHOOL STATE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. I BELIEVE WITH A THREE POINTER AT THE BUZZER BY YOURSELF BY MADE BY HIM AND THEN HE ALSO PLAYED, UM YOU PLAYED COLLEGE. YES. YEAH YEAH. SO THE YOUNG MEN THAT ARE ARE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING HAD A GREAT GREAT SEASON. WE ARE ARE WE FINISHED THE RECORD OR SEASON 37 6. AH AND THESE BOYS WORKED EXTREMELY HARD THROUGH THE OFF SEASON AND INTO THE SEASON AND WE HAD A GREAT GAME TO WIN THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP OVER AND WACO IN DOUBLE OVERTIME AGAINST THE TEAM IN SAN ANTONIO, BUT I AM SO PROUD OF THESE GUYS COMING TOGETHER A LOT OF NEW FACES TO MCKINNEY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY. BUT BUT COLLECTIVELY, WE WERE ABLE TO REALLY OVERCOME A LOT THIS SEASON AND TO HAVE THE MOST WINS IN THE SEASON AND THE FIRST EVER STATE CHAMPIONSHIP. WHAT A GREAT HONOR. AND ONE THING THAT WE ALWAYS SAY IS THAT GOD IS GOOD, AND HE GETS ALL THE GLORY. SO? AMEN AMEN. RETURN PICTURE WITH COUNSELORS. FIRST.US AGAINST. TRYING TO SQUEEZE IT. RIGHT? ARIES. YEAH YEAH
[Proclamation for Sexual Assault Awareness and Prevention Month]
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. NEXT TO 7 TO 20285 PROCLAMATION FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS AND PREVENTION MONTH. PLEASE COME ON. YEAH, IT IS. CITY MCKINNEY PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, TEXAS SHARES A CRITICAL CONCERN FOR VICTIMS OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE, AND WE ALONG WITH ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS THE TURNING POINT RAPE CRISIS CENTER. DESIRE TO SUPPORT THEIR NEEDS FOR JUSTICE AND HEALING. WHEREAS LAST YEAR THE MCKINNEY POLICE DEPARTMENT RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 69 REPORTS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT AND SERVE THE NEEDS OF VICTIMS BY CONTACTING EACH VICTIM TO PROVIDE INFORMATION, PERSONAL ADVOCACY AND ACCOMPANY ACCOMPANIMENT DURING THE VARIOUS PHASES OF THE CASE. EMOTIONAL SUPPORT OR SAFETY SERVICES, REFERRALS FOR SHELTER OR HOUSING ASSISTANCE WITH THE CRIMINAL AND CIVIL JUSTICE SYSTEMS. AND WHEREAS CURRENT ESTIMATES SUGGEST AS FEW AS ■ONE IN FIVE SEXUAL ASSAULTS WILL BE REPORTED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND LESS THAN 3% WILL RESULT IN THE CONVICTION AND INCARCERATION OF THE PERPETRATOR. WHEREAS RESEARCH DOCUMENTS THAT VICTIMS ARE FAR MORE LIKELY TO DISCLOSE THEIR SEXUAL ASSAULT TO A FRIEND OR FAMILY MEMBER, AND WHEN THESE LOVED ONES RESPOND WITH DOUBT, SHAME OR BLAME VICTIMS SUFFER ADDITIONAL NEGATIVE EFFECTS ON THEIR PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL WELL BEING. AND WHEREAS THE STARTED BY BELIEVING PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN BY NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION AND VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN INTERNATIONAL IS DESIGNED TO IMPROVE THE RESPONSE OF FRIENDS, FAMILY MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY PROFESSIONALS. TO HELP VICTIMS ACCESS, SUPPORTIVE RESOURCES AND ENGAGE THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. NOW, THEREFORE, I GEORGE FULLER, BY THE POWER VESTED IN ME AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 6TH 2022 IS START BY BELIEVING DAY IN THE MONTH OF APRIL 2022 AS SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS AND PREVENTION MONTH IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS.WITNESS MY HAND AND SALE THIS APRIL DAY OF APRIL 5TH 2022. YEAH THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MAYOR FULLER. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I'M NOT GOOD AT PUBLIC SPEAKING AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THIS TIME. I KNOW IT'S KIND OF A DOWNER OF A SUBJECT AFTER THAT GREAT PRESENTATION TO THE WONDERFUL BOYS THERE, BUT I'D LIKE TO JUST SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE, MAYBE END ON A POSITIVE NOTE, SO THE TURNING POINT THE FACTS ARE WHAT THEY ARE, AND THEY'RE NEVER GOOD TO HEAR. BUT THE TURNING POINT HAS BEEN AROUND AND COLLIN COUNTY FOR 35 YEARS, AND IT'S ONE OF THE OLDEST RAPE CRISIS CENTER IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, WHICH IS TO BE VERY PROUD OF, UM, IN 2017. WE OPENED THE ONLY SECONDS AND FORENSIC CLINIC IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, WHICH IS INSIDE OUR BUILDING IN PLANO, TEXAS, BUT WE SERVE ALL VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND BEYOND OUR COUNTY DELIVERING SEXUAL ASSAULT EXAMS THERE IN OUR BUILDING THAT MAKES IT A MORE TRAUMA, INFORMED AND EMPATHETIC. I THINK ENVIRONMENT THAN EMERGENCY ROOM. UM I ALSO YOU KNOW, WE DELIVERED 528 EXAMS LAST YEAR. WE DO SERVE PARTS OF DALLAS COUNTY AS WELL AND PROVIDED AS MANY MEDICAL ACCOMPANIMENTS TO THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN ASSAULTED. WE HAD DELIVERED OVER 4700 COUNSELING FREE COUNSELING SESSIONS TO ANYONE IMPACTED BY SEXUAL VIOLENCE TO OVER 310 CLIENTS, AND WE ALSO DO LEGAL ACCOMPANIMENT AND WE DELIVERED 49 OF THOSE. AND OF COURSE, THE PANDEMIC KIND OF SLOWED THAT DOWN. AS YOU KNOW, NORMALLY, THAT'S UP IN THE HUNDREDS. AND WE'RE JUST GETTING BACK UP ON OUR FEET TO DELIVER COMMUNITY AWARENESS PRESENTATIONS NOW BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU KNOW, CITY MCKINNEY. THEY HAVE BEEN ON MEMBERS OF OUR SEXUAL ASSAULT RESPONSE TEAM FOR YEAR. I'M SORRY. THE MCKINNEY POLICE DEPARTMENT. UM AS WE ALL GATHER WITH OUR D A. WE MEET MONTHLY WITH OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY A. D A. A AND MEMBERS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN OUR COUNTY, ALONG WITH THE CRIME LAB AND HOSPITAL PARTNERS JUST TO TALK ABOUT OUR RESPONSE AND AGAIN AS WE SAID, I THINK THE EASIEST THING YOU CAN DO TO SUPPORT ANY VICTIM OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE IS JUST START BY BELIEVING, UM, THAT WILL START THEIR JOURNEY TO HEALING BECAUSE TOO OFTEN IT'S ALWAYS WHAT DID YOU DO? WHY DID YOU GO THERE? WHY WERE YOU WEARING THAT AND IT
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MAY BE WELL INTENDED, BUT THE FACT REMAINS, IT'S NOTHING THEY DID. IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE TO THEM. AND THAT'S THE PERSON THAT DID IT. THAT'S IN THE WRONG AND SO IF YOU JUST HEAR ANYONE TELL YOU A STORY. JUST LISTEN, BE EMPATHETIC AND POINT THEM OUR WAY AND WE'LL BE GLAD TO HELP THEM AND PROVIDE FREE SERVICES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.[PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS (For Non-Public Hearing Items)]
SO NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENTS AND I'M GOING TO ASK IF THERE IS ANYONE HERE BEFORE THAT IS HERE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING EMC, A AND THE BASKETBALL TEAM AND IF THERE IS, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF DON'T MEAN TO PUT IN ONE SPOT. AND IF THERE IS NO ONE I KNOW THAT YOU'RE HERE. MANY ARE HERE, TOO. TO HONOR THEM FOR WITH WHAT WE WITH WHAT WE ALREADY DID EARLIER. I JUST WANT TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY IF THERE IS SOMEONE ELSE TO MAKE WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT FOR THEM TO HEAR IT AND THEN GIVE THEM NOT THAT THEY NEED MY PERMISSION. BUT I'M GONNA TELL YOU IF I WERE YOU, I'D SLIP OUT . ALTHOUGH I EXPECT A RIVETING MEETING. IT MAY NOT BE SOMETHING. THAT IS ON YOUR YOU KNOW, AND YOUR TO DO LIST TONIGHT. SO IS THERE ANYONE THAT WANTED TO THAT IS HERE TO MAKE A COMMENT REGARDING THE M C, A BASKETBALL TEAM. MR TEMPLE. CONNECT CAN I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT? I DID THIS BEFORE. BUT IF YOU'RE A PARENT OF ONE OF THESE STUDENTS, CAN YOU PLEASE STAND SO THAT WE CAN RECOGNIZE YOU? THEY'RE ALL OUT, AND THEY'VE ALREADY LEFT HER. THERE REALLY SMART EMPRESS OUT THERE, SMILING. REALLY REALLY BIG WHEN WE WERE WHEN YOU HAVE WHAT YOU GUYS COME UP AND TALK ABOUT YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENT. I KNOW THAT SHE IS A BIG FAN. IF YOU DON'T KNOW EMPERORS, EMPRESSES ARE OUR CITY SECRETARY, AND SHE IS A LEGEND IN MCKINNEY SPORTS AS WELL. UM SHE'S ALSO LEGENDS, UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS AND BASKETS. YES YES, WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT YOU DIDN'T GET HERE BY YOURSELVES.WE KNOW YOU GUYS PUT IN A LOT OF HARD WORK, AND IT TAKES A LOT OF DEDICATION TO DO WHAT YOU DID.
SO BRAVO TO YOU ON REACHING THIS LEVEL OF EXCELLENCE, BUT YOU'RE SUPPORTED BY A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LOVE YOU AROUND YOU. SO WE JUST WANT TO THANK THE PARENTS AS WELL FOR SUPPORTING YOU. AND I SAID, WHEN WE TALKED TO MCKINNEY HIGH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN TREMENDOUSLY DIVISIVE TIMES DIFFICULT TIMES AND WHEN A GROUP LIKE YOU UM, ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU ACCOMPLISH. I'M SURE YOU RECOGNIZE IT FOR OF COURSE, THE ACCOMPLISHMENT. IT IS IN YOUR IN YOUR SPORTS, LIFE AND WHATNOT.
BUT LET ME TELL YOU IT'S ALSO SOMETHING REALLY IMPORTANT THAT HAPPENS IN THE COMMUNITY. AS A COMMUNITY. WE ALL WE ALL RALLY AROUND, AND WE TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS TO WE WERE PROUD OF YOU. WE WERE PROUD FOR THE COMMUNITY AND IT IT FOR THAT TIME IT ALL THAT OTHER NOISE KIND OF SUBSIDE. SO YOU ACHIEVE SOMETHING? UM BIGGER THAN EVEN JUST WHAT YOU ACHIEVED AS A TEAM FOR EMC. A FOR THIS COMMUNITY. YOU BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER IN APPRECIATION AND AS NEIGHBORS AND PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AS WE SHOULD BE, AND WE'RE NOT ALWAYS THESE DAYS. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR ACHIEVING SOMETHING SO GREAT THAT WE ALL CAN RALLY AROUND AND FORGET ALL THE OTHER NOISE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THESE DAYS AND YOU ACHIEVED THAT AND ACCOMPLISHED THAT FOR US. AS A COMMUNITY. ON BRIEF COMMENT. MR MAYOR, YOUR COACH SAID THAT YOU YOU HAD TO OVERCOME A LOT OF OBSTACLES THIS YEAR. THAT WILL BE THE BEST LIFE LESSON THAT SCHOOL WILL HAVE EVER PROVIDED YOU CALCULATED FOR MY CHILDREN WHEN THEY WERE YOUNG , THE CHANCES THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO OVERCOME AND THE ANSWER WAS 100. SO THERE'S 100% CHANCE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO OVERCOME AGAIN. REMEMBER THIS. REMEMBER WHAT YOU DID REMEMBER THAT LIFE WILL GIVE US TRIALS AND THE WHOLE CITY. IS AWFULLY PROUD OF YOU BECAUSE WE KNOW YOU HAD TO OVERCOME. SO CONGRATULATIONS FILLS. YEAH. SO WITH THAT, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO SNEAK OUT, WILL TURN AWAY.
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NOT ONE STATE. I'M DISAPPOINTED . WHAT HAPPENED THERE SMART. THAT'S WHAT IT IS, UM, VERY PROUD OF THEM. ALRIGHT WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS FOR NON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. SO. DO WE HAVE THAT LIST POPULATED? WE HAVE FOUR I DON'T HAVE THEM SHOWING UP YET ON MY SCREEN. NOW I DO. UM, HAS ME I HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN, UM FORGIVE ME FOR THE NAME MISPRONUNCIATION IF I DO BRIAN DELLA, WHOSE I OR WHO SAY YES, SIR. SO THAT WOULD BE THE TIME THIS WOULD BE THE TIME. YES SO RIGHT NOW IT'S ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT ARE NOT PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, SO THAT WOULD JUST AND UNDERSTAND IT GETS CONFUSING. AND IF YOU'RE NOT DOING THIS EVERY EVERY DAY JUST ALREADY SENT. EMAILS AND IN THE LIGHT TO TEXT ON ABOUT THE FINANCIAL CONCERNS AND PROBLEMS ARE. INCREASED ACTUALLY WITH CONGESTION IF THEY SELECT THE OPTION EIGHT BUT I'VE BEEN READING A LOT THAT'S BEEN ON POSTED BY THE CITY OF PROSPER WHERE A LOT OF ATTENTION IS BEING GIVEN THIS CHARITY THAT HELPS VETERANS AND DISABLED CHILDREN. BEING A VETERAN MYSELF . I DULY APPRECIATE WHAT THE WHAT THE CHARITY DOES FOR THESE PEOPLE. BUT THE REASON FOR USING THE LAND FOR THAT CHARITY RIGHT NOW IS THE VERY LOW IMPACT USED FOR THE LAND. THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT IS THE PROSPEROUS DEVELOPED AROUND THAT LAND. THAT LAND WILL BE SOLD FOR DEVELOPMENT. AND THE CHARITY WILL HAVE TO MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE EVENTUALLY, ANYWAY. THE BYPASS THE OPTION. BEEP I PASSED DOES NOT ACTUALLY GO ANYWHERE NEAR THE BARNES THE RIDING FIELDS OR ANYTHING ELSE. IT'S ACTUALLY ANOTHER PROPERTY AND IT CAN BE SEEN AND THERE'S THERE MAY BE SOME NOISE, BUT THAT'S ALL I GREW UP AROUND HORSES. THAT DOESN'T BOTHER THE HORSES. WE HAVE A RESCUE OPERATION FORCES OFF OF 1 21. I GREW UP AROUND HORSES AND KNOW THAT RIDING YOU, YOU TUNE OUT ROAD NOISE, AND I'M SURE THAT'S THE SAME THING IS TRUE FOR THESE CHILDREN. AND THESE VETERANS IN THAT CASE, I DON'T THINK WE'RE HARMING THEM ANYWAY. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY IT PUBLICLY THAT, UH , NOT AGAINST THE CHARITY, BUT I THINK TO EQUATE THAT WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DESTROYING 13 BUSINESSES AND MCKINNEY TO HAVE OPTION A SELECTED WHICH ARE PEOPLE'S LIVELIHOODS. IT'S GOING TO BE GOING VERY NEAR TO HOMES WHICH WILL BE DESTROYING PEOPLE'S HOMES JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE OBJECTS TO HAVING A DISTANT ROAD NOISE AND SOMETHING ABOUT AN EYESORE. IF THERE'S A HIGHWAY THAT'S GOING TO BE TRUE IN BOTH PLACES, I REALLY THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHERE WE PUT OUR PRIORITIES AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CLEARLY ENUNCIATED TEXT DOT THAT WE ARE AGAINST OPTION A. AND FOR OPTION B. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. WILLIAM CAMPBELL. GOOD EVENING, AND THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, I'M FROM TUCKER HILL, SO I OBVIOUSLY HAD AN INTEREST IN ALL OF THIS, BUT I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE OVERALL ISSUE AND THAT IS TO IDENTIFY CLEARLY THAT 3 80. IS A MAJOR EAST WEST ARTERY BETWEEN I 35 I 30 AND THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON 3 80 RIGHT NOW THAT USES THAT ROAD TO MAKE THAT IT'S NOT JUST LOCAL TRAFFIC, SO KEEPING THAT IN MIND, BUT SOME OF MY COMMENTS KNOWLEDGE. THE FACT THAT NO ONE'S REALLY GOING TO LIKE WHATEVER GAY OR BI WHETHER YOU'RE IN PROSPER HERE. IT'S NOT REALLY GOOD FOR EITHER ONE OF US. BUT THE IDEA WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS. MOST INTERSTATES TODAY HAS 4 TO 6 LANES. I 30 RIGHT NOW. ONCE YOU GET WHAT EAST OF US IS ABOUT FOUR LANES THREE DAYS PROPOSED WITH CONSTITUTE EIGHT LANES. PLUS TWO SIDE ROADS AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW.AND IF YOU WANT TO COMPARE THAT THINK ABOUT, UH 6 35 BETWEEN DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY AND I 35 EAST. THAT'S THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WOULD BE CREATED WHEN WE CONSTRUCT. IF THEY FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS ROAD THE WAY THEY'RE DOING WHAT THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT IS HUGE. NOW STOP AND LOOK AT A MAP. FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE TUCKER HILL IS AND WHERE STONE BRIDGES AND LOOK AT THE SPACE BETWEEN THOSE TWO COMMUNITIES AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT 10 LANES OF TRAFFIC, AND THEY'VE ALSO REMOVED ANY ACCESS INTO TUCKER HILL OVER GRASS MIR. WHICH WAS IN THERE LAST PROPOSAL. THE SECOND THING. ACKNOWLEDGED THAT IMPROVEMENT TO 3 80 IS NECESSARY. SO MY IDEA IS MAKE IMPROVEMENTS OF 38 TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC FLOW BETWEEN EAST AND WEST AND FOR THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES. BUT MY QUESTION IS A NEW RESIDENT HERE. I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT FOUR YEARS IS WHY ARE THEY NOT GOING FORWARD WITH A BYPASS ROAD? LIKE THEY HAVE IN
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DENTON THAT GOES EAST AND WEST NORTH. OF ALL THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES I DON'T UNDERSTAND.AND WHEN I ASKED TEXT DOT THIS, THEY SAID NO ONE WOULD USE. AND THAT'S RIDICULOUS BECAUSE I DRIVED TO USE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY I DRIVE SOUTH TO USE 1 21. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. AND THEN FINALLY, WHY ISN'T THERE AN ALREADY MET? MY POINT IS FINALLY AS I FINISH THIS EVENTUALLY AS MY POSITION IS IMPROVED 3 80 BUILDING BYPASS , BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER OPTIONS, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT YOU TO POSE OPTION BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE THE BIGGEST IMPACT ON THE MOST RESIDENTS IN MOST COMMUNITIES, AND IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. CINDA LOW LOMAN. THANK YOU. PRESIDING COUNCIL. MY NAME IS CINDY LOMAN. I AM A RESIDENT OF MCKINNEY. I LIVE IN THE LIST. SEEMA STONEBRIDGE COMMUNITY LOCATED AT STONEBRIDGE DRIVE IN THE US 3 80. I RECOGNIZE THAT NEITHER OPTION A OR OPTION B MAY BE IDEAL FOR OUR COMMUNITY, BUT POTENTIALLY THAT THERE ARE OTHER SOLUTIONS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GO ON RECORD THAT I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE PROJECT. 38 80 SEGMENT BE BYPASS ALIGNMENT OPTION OVER SEGMENT A FOR SOME OF THE SAME REASONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN POST OR DISCUSSED A COUPLE OF THINGS, THOUGH I WOULD LIKE TO TOUCH ON THOSE, NOT ONLY IT NOT ONLY IS THE COST OF OPTION BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS. I THINK THAT'S A BIG IMPACT TO OUR COMMUNITY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TAX DOLLARS THAT GO INTO THAT BUT I ALSO TOO. I WORK IN ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS, AND I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU LOOK AT ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE OF THINGS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHERE SEGMENT B IS GOING TO BE ROUTED VERSUS SEGMENT A AND THE IMPACT THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE NOT ONLY ON THE DESTRUCTION OF THE FOREST LAND AND THE POTENTIAL LACK OF THE CO TWO EMISSIONS UPTAKE THAT THAT COULD GENERATE BUT ALSO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RIVERS AND THE STREAMS AND THE OTHER IMPACTS THERE, SO I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THAT. I ALSO SECOND WHAT? WHAT WAS JUST SPOKEN ABOUT THAT? YOU KNOW IT WASN'T APPARENT WHETHER TEXT DOT HAS CONSIDERED MOVING THE PROJECT EVEN FURTHER NORTH IN IN COLLIN COUNTY TO AN OUTER LOOP.
THIS WOULD ELIMINATE THE NEED TO EXPAND 3 82 THE LEVELS THAT ARE PROPOSED THINK THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS LOOKED AT. IF THEY OPTIONS IS TO CHOOSE BETWEEN SEGMENT B AND SEGMENT A.
I STRONGLY SUPPORT SEGMENT OR SEGMENTS BE OPPOSED FOR THE REASONS I JUST SPOKE OF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND JOAN STOCKMAN. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THANK YOU FOR COMING UP WITH THIS NEW RESOLUTION, AND I COMMEND YOU FOR USING THE TEXT STOP FACTS AND FINDINGS BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN ALL SORTS OF UM MISS TRUTHS THAT HAVE BEEN JUST GONE VIRAL ON SOCIAL MEDIA, AND I ALSO LIVE IN LAST SEMA AND STONEBRIDGE AND I HAVE BEEN ORGANIZING. UM AND GETTING THE WORD OUT TO OUR NEIGHBORS. UM AND I'VE HAD A LOT OF HELP HERE AND I WANT TO THANK THEM AND, UM I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS HAVE, UM SAID , AND I'LL ADD TO THAT THAT WE HAD A HOMEOWNERS MEETING AND A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT THAT I THOUGHT WERE VERY PERTINENT TO THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT PROCESS, WHICH WILL TAKE THREE OR FOUR YEARS IS THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN WHO ARE DRIVING WHO ARE NEW DRIVERS AND DRIVING TO AND FROM HIGH SCHOOL KIDS GOING, UM. EAST TO MCKINNEY , NORTH KIDS GOING WEST TO ROCK HILL FROM TUCKER HILL. UM AND, UH, THE QUESTION OF HOW IS AN AMBULANCE GOING TO GET FROM LAST SEEMA OR TUCKER, HAIL OR RIDGECREST OR ANY OF OUR STONEBRIDGE NEIGHBORHOODS TO BAYLOR. UM AND THE CONGESTION THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN JUST WITH THAT CONSTRUCT CONSTRUCTION. ALL OF THE ARTERIES THAT COME OFF OF 3 80 ARE GOING TO BE MUCH MORE CONGESTED BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO AVOID GOING ON 3 80. WHAT'S THAT GOING TO ADD IN EXHAUST AND NOISE? SO THERE'S A YOU KNOW A LOT OF THINGS TO THINK ABOUT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS ITSELF. SO UM, I CONCUR WITH EVERYBODY ELSE THAT WE REALLY OPPOSE OPTION A AND SUPPORT OPTION B AND HOPE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO UNANIMOUSLY UM VOTE FOR THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT IS ALL THAT
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I SHOW THAT SIGNED UP THAT ACCURATE, JOSH. OKAY WE WILL NOW MOVE TO CONSENT ITEMS. SENATE[CONSENT AGENDA]
AGENDA IS A LIST OF NONE ITEMS. NONCONTROVERSIAL HOUSE KEEPING ITEMS REQUIRED BY LAW. ITEMS MAY BE CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY BY ANY COUNCIL MEMBER MAKING SUCH REQUEST PRIOR TO EMOTION, BUT ON THE CONSENT ITEMS. IS THERE ANY CONSENT ITEM THAT CANCER WOULD LIKE TO PULL DOWN TO DISCUSS? AND IF NOT IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CAN THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS CIRCUIT. IS CAST YOUR VOTES. YES. THANK YOU. RIGHT? MOVED TO[Consider/Discuss/Act on a Conveyance Plat for Hico Addition, Lot 1R1 and 3R, Block A, Located on the Southwest Corner of Highway 380 and North Airport Drive]
PLAN CONSIDERATIONS. TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 2 12 220034 C V P, CONSIDERING ACT ON A CONVEYANCE, PLATT FOR THE HIGH CO EDITION. LOT ONE ARE ONE AND THREE ARE BLOCKADE LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF HIGHWAY 3 80 NORTH AIRPORT DRIVE. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. THIS IS ONE OF TWO FLATS ON YOUR PLAT CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT. THE ONE BEFORE YOU IS A CONVENIENCE. PLATT THAT IS PROPOSING TO SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY INTO TWO TRACKS JUST AS A REMINDER CONVENIENCE PLATS ARE NOT FOR DEVELOPMENT. THEY ARE STRICTLY TO SUBDIVIDE PROPERTY IN ORDER TO, UH SELL IT OFF OR TO CONDUCT A LAND TRANSACTION STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE PROPOSED FLAT AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS THAT ARE LISTED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS. RIGHT? WITH THAT ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR MAYOR MOVED THAT WE APPROVED THE PLANT AS PRESENTED BY STAFF. OUR CIRCUIT. COOPER. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. MM HMM.GREAT. ITEM 220032 PF ARE CONCERNED ACT ON A PRELIMINARY FINAL REPLANT FOR THE MURANO
[Consider/Discuss/Act on a Preliminary-Final Replat for The Merano Addition, Located on the South Side of Heritage Drive and Approximately 450 Feet East of Redbud Boulevard]
EDITION LOOK AT THE SOUTH SIDE OF HERITAGE, DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 450 FT. EAST BREAD BUT BOULEVARD THANK YOU, MR MAYOR AGAIN. THIS IS THE SECOND FLAT ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT, AND I DID JUST WANT TO LET THE COUNCIL KNOW THAT THE ONLY REASON THESE FLATS BEFORE YOU IS BECAUSE THE 30 DAY APPROVAL REQUIREMENTS WE DID NOT HAVE A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING THAT FELL WITHIN THAT WINDOW. OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE PRESENTED THEM TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THIS IS A FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD PLATT AS WELL. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REPAIR REPLACE PROPERTY. THED FLAT AGAINST THE CITY SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS. ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE IMPROVE THIS ITEM. A SURROGATE. IS CAST YOUR VOTES. NOW MOVE TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA. PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Petition to Annex (Case No. 21-0004A) and a Request to Zone (Case No. 21-0038Z) on Certain Land (the “Property”) to “PD” - Planned Development District, Located on the East Side of State Highway 5 (McDonald Street) and Approximately 600 Feet North of the Intersection of County Road 278 and Fannin Road, and Related Ordinance(s) and Agreements]
PORTION THE AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS REQUIRING INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION BY COUNCIL.21000482 SLASH 210038 Z THREE CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARINGS. BUSTER CONSIDERABLE ISSUE TO CONSIDER AN ACT ON A PETITION TO ANNEX CASE NUMBER 2100048 REQUEST TO REZONE CASE NUMBER 210038 Z ON CERTAIN LAND. TWO PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF STATE, HIGHWAY FIRE, MCDONALDS STREET AND APPROXIMATELY 600 FT . NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION TO COUNTY ROAD, 22, 78 FANNIN ROAD AND RELATED ORDINANCES AND SEGMENTS. JENNIFER THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. AS YOU READ. THIS IS A REQUEST TO BOTH ANNEX AND ZONE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS CURRENTLY LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY'S, E. T J OR EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.
AS YOU'LL SEE ON THE LOCATION MAP ON THE SCREEN. IT IS ON THE NORTHERN STRETCH OF STATE HIGHWAY FIVE FANNIN ROAD IN THE NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE CITY'S CURRENT CITY LIMITS. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING. WE GO. IS PROPOSING WITH THIS ANNEXATION TO ZONE THE PROPERTY
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FOR PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT AS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT, THE 40 ACRE TRACT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE CUT IN HALF AND I WILL JUST MARK THAT OUT HERE WITH TRACKED ONE. AGAIN.RIGHT. THERE WE GO. WITH TRACKED ONE GENERALLY BEING ON THE FRONT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY AND TRACKED TWO ON THE BACK PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. UM WITHIN TRACKED ONE THE AFRICAN IS PROPOSING TO ZONE THAT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TO THE SEA TO ZONING DISTRICT OF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR A VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL USES. ON THE BACK PORTION OF THE PROPERTY DESIGNATED AS TRACT TO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSED PROPOSING TO ZONE THAT TO ALLOW FOR EITHER MULTI FAMILY ZONING OR DEVELOPMENT. OR COMMERCIAL ZONING SUBJECT TO THE CITY'S C ONE ZONING DISTRICT, IF THE PROPERTY OR IF TRACKED TO WORK TO DEVELOP WITH MULTI FAMILY USES, IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE MF THREE ZONING DISTRICT OF THE CITY. WITH MODIFICATIONS TO THE ALLOWED DENSITIES PARKING STANDARDS AND SOME MODIFICATIONS AS WELL FOR LANDSCAPING ON THE PROPERTY, ALL OF WHICH ARE OUTLINED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT. CLEAR THAT UP. SORRY ABOUT THAT.
SO WITH THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU YOU ARE CONSIDERING TWO THINGS A BUNDLE. IF YOU WILL, THAT FIRST COMPONENT IS THE ANNEXATION REQUEST. WITH THAT ANNEXATION. THERE IS AN ANNEXATION ORDINANCE AND A SERVICE PLAN AND AN ANNEXATION AGREEMENT THAT OUTLINES THE TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THE PROPERTY. FOR THIS PARTICULAR TRACKED. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WOULD SUBJECT THEM TO THE STANDARD DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY. AND WITH THAT ARE. AS WELL AS THE ANNEXATION ORDINANCE. WE ALSO HAVE A ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH WOULD OUTLINE THE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT PROPERTY THAT I JUST OUTLINED FOR YOU. SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF YOU. I APOLOGIZE. I FORGOT TO GIVE YOU STAFF RECOMMENDATION WHEN LOOKING AT THE REQUEST. WE HAVE EVALUATED THE ANNEXATION COMPONENT AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED ZONING. WE DO FEEL AS THOUGH THE PROPOSED ZONING IS REASONABLE AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED ON THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN FOR COMMERCIAL USES. HOWEVER THE EVALUATION CRITERIA THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IN THE PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF OUR STAFF DOES FEEL AS THOUGH THE PROPOSAL MEETS THE MAJORITY OF THE DISTRICT INTENT FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA OF THE MCKINNEY.
AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL . PLANNING AND OWNING COMMISSION CONSIDERED THE ZONING REQUEST AS WELL. AND THEY ALSO ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. AT THIS POINT, I'M GONNA STOP TALKING AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR ME, AND I KNOW THE APPLICANTS HERE AS WELL. KING FOR HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU IF I COULD IF WE. WELL THEY UNDER THIS PROPERTY, SOMEONE WANTING TO DEVELOP IT. COULD THEY DEVELOP WHAT THEY WANT TO DEVELOP RIGHT NOW WITHOUT BEING ANNEXED. WELL THE ANYBODY CAN DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY. SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, ARE THEY ABLE TO DEVELOP WHAT THEY WANT WITHOUT ANNEXING DEPENDING ON THEIR ABILITY TO MEET INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS, THEY ABSOLUTELY COULD. THEIR ABILITY TO MEET INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS. ARE THEY THE SAME AND EXTRA NOT ANNEXED, THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE SAME INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS. THAT'S CORRECT WITH THAT, WITH THAT TRANSLATE INTO THE COST WOULD BE THE SAME. WHETHER THEY'RE AN X OR NOT ANNEXED. THE COST OF PROVIDING INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BE THE SAME. SO THERE IS A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD RIGHT NOW ON INFRASTRUCTURE, WHETHER THEY'RE AN X OR NOT ANNEXED FROM STAFF POSITION. WE THINK THAT THERE IS CORRECT THERE ANNEXED WE HAVE WE HAVE. STANDARDS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO IMPOSE THAT WE WOULD NOT OTHERWISE BE ABLE TO IMPOSE IF THEY WERE NOT ANNEXED. THAT IS CORRECT. OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE ZONING CONTROL. UM OBVIOUSLY THEY PAY PROPERTY TAXES. IF WE WERE TO ANNEX, THEN THAT'S CORRECT. IF WE WERE NOT TO ANNEX THEM. I KNOW WE'VE HAD WE HAVE SOME PROPERTIES THAT DEVELOPED IN THE E. T. J. THAT WE DID NOT THAT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO ANNEX THEY HAD SEPTIC. I KNOW THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS MADE. WELL, LET ME ASK A DIFFERENT WAY.
COULD THEY THEORETICALLY DECIDED NOT TO BUILD THE MANUFACTURING AND INSTALL SEPTIC AND BUILD THE MULTI FAMILY. IN THE J. M THEORETICALLY, THEY COULD PROSPER MANSIONS OF PROSPER HERE IN MCKINNEY WITH 1000. RELATIVELY CORRECT. YES, THEY COULD DO THAT. OKAY, UM. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS FOR RIGHT NOW. WE'LL HAVE MORE LATER. I'M SURE OTHER QUESTIONS. WITH THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME UP AND SAY ANYTHING. JOSH. THEY HAD A PROSPECT TO THE ADAM. I'M SORRY.
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DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION TOO LATE? MAYOR CITY MANAGER CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JACK ZENGER , 2949. PARKWOOD BOULEVARD. FRISCO, TEXAS. I'M HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. I'D ALSO LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MULTI FAMILY PORTION OF THIS PROJECT. UM. THE MULTI FAMILY PORTION IS CRITICAL. FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. TO SUPPORT THE LARGE PARTIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND THE INVESTMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE. CITIZEN OPPOSITION IS ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY AGAINST THE MULTI FAMILY PORTION. IN OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH. SOME OF THINGS WE LEARNED THAT PEOPLE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT OR BUFFERING. TRAFFIC AND INFRASTRUCTURE. REGARDING THE BUFFERING. ALONG THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY OF THIS PROJECT ON THE EXHIBIT UP HERE. AH! THAT ENTIRE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY. HAS COMMERCIAL. IN MULTI FAMILY ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND UNDER MCKINNEY.SO, UM, ORDINANCE. IF THIS DEVELOPMENT GETS APPROVED THE BUFFERING ALONG THAT SOUTHERN BOUNDARY WOULD INCLUDE 45 FT OF BUILDING SETBACK. 20 FT OF LANDSCAPING SETBACK WITH A TREE AT EVERY 30 FT. AND IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE A SIX FT MASONRY WALL THAT WOULD SPAN APPROXIMATELY 1900 FT ALONG THAT SOUTHERN BOUNDARY. AS FOR BUFFERING ON THE ROADWAYS. THE PEED ALONG, FANNING. AND THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF COUNTY ROAD, 3 99. THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS HAVE INCREASED THE BUILDING SET BACK FROM 35 FT TO 45 FT. REGARDING TRAFFIC. MM.
WITH THE ULTIMATE IMPROVEMENTS TO FANNING ROAD THAT WILL BE REQUIRED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT TO BEGIN. UM THIS PROJECT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE EXPANSION OF HIGHWAY FIVE. IT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE EXPANSION OF FANNING ROAD. CONTRIBUTE TO THE EXTENSION OF COUNTY ROAD, 3 99 AND THE EXPANSION OF COUNTY ROAD 3 99. ALL THE ACCESS POINTS TO THE PROPERTY WILL HAVE TURNING LANES. WITH THE ULTIMATE BUILD OUT OF COUNTY, THE COUNTY ROAD EXTENSION AND EXPANSION AND THE FANNING ROAD EXPANSION. THIS THAT INTERSECTION WOULD ACTUALLY IN MY OPINION, BE IDEAL FOR MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. REGARDING INFRASTRUCTURE. THE, UM YOU KNOW US. FOR THE EXHIBITS KIND OF DIFFICULT TO READ FROM HERE. THE PROJECT WILL WILL BE DEDICATING 30 FT OF RIGHT AWAY ALONG HIGHWAY FIVE. 30 FT RIGHT AWAY ALONG FANNING ROAD. 100 FT OF RIGHT AWAY THROUGH THAT NORTHERN PORTION OF THE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. TWO. EXTEND AND EXPAND COUNTY ROAD 3 99. NOT ONLY WILL THE LAND BE DEDICATED MM. BUT ALSO THE CONSTRUCTION WILL BE FINANCED. FEIGNING ROAD FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT TO MOVE FORWARD, BASED ON MCKINNEY ENGINEERING TRAINING ROAD NEEDS TO BE INCREASED TO 24 FT AND THEN ULTIMATELY BUILT UP TO 37 FT. COUNTY ROAD EXTENSION WILL BE A FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROAD AS A MINOR ARTERIAL. THE UTILITY EXTENSIONS. UM. ITS EXHIBITS HARD TO READ THAT GREEN LINE YOU COULD SEE SHOWS THE NEAREST SANITARY SEWER CONNECTION POINT.
6000 FT TO THE SOUTH. IN THE LOWER. SOUTHWESTERN CORNER. THERE YOU'LL SEE A BLUE LABEL.
UM POINTING TO THE NEAREST WATER CONNECTION POINT. WHICH IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF HIGHWAY FIVE AND TELEPHONE ROAD. THESE UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS AND EXTENSIONS HAVE SIGNIFICANT COSTS INVOLVED. THIS DEVELOPMENT. IT'S NOT ANTICIPATED TO BEGIN. IN THE NEXT 2 TO 4 YEARS. WE DON'T KNOW. WHERE THOSE UTILITIES WILL BE AT THAT TIME, BUT, UM THE EXTENSION AND IMPROVEMENT. TOM. THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL MAKE A MAJOR CONTRIBUTION TO THOSE
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IMPROVEMENTS. SO. HOW TO SAY AGAIN THAT THE MULTI FAMILY PORTION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS REALLY CRITICAL TO MAKING IT HAPPEN TO SUPPORT THE COMMERCIAL. AND TO SUPPORT AND FINANCE THESE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS. SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN HAVE YOUR SUPPORT AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING. WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE FUTURE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. MESS. JUST A VERY DIRECT QUESTION. UM. BEING AN EX DOESN'T PROVIDE YOU ANY BENEFIT WHATSOEVER ON INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS OR ANYTHING ELSE. YOU HAVE THE SAME COST, WHETHER YOU'RE AN EXTRA NOT ANNEXED. TRUE BUT WHAT YOU WHAT YOU DO, HOWEVER, IF YOU'RE IN NEXT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THOSE SETBACKS IMPOSED UPON YOU THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT. IF YOU'RE NOT, YOU WON'T. YOU'RE THE STANDARDS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO IMPOSE. NOT AS MANY AS WERE TWO YEARS AGO BEFORE HB 23 49, BUT WHAT WE ARE, WE WOULD WE WILL. WE WILL MAKE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROJECT JUST BY DEFINITION OF THE GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE OVERSIGHT AND THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT WE WILL IMPOSE MAKE IT MORE COSTLY FOR YOU. SO AND YOU'RE GOING TO PAY PROPERTY TAX. WHY DO YOU WANT TO BE ANNEXED? WHY? WHAT? WHY IS IT IMPORTANT TO YOU TO BE AN X WHEN CITY UTILITIES ARE IMPORTANT, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE CITY UTILITIES. WHETHER YOU'RE AN EX OR NOT, YOU COULD AND IT'S THE SAME COST YOU WHETHER YOU'RE AN EXTRA KNOT, TYING INTO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY.I THINK WOULD BE LIMITED AT SOME, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO ON SITE SANITARY SEWER. UM. BY THE WAY, I'M NOT TRYING TO TALK YOU OUT OF AN ACCENT, BUT I BUT I, BUT I WANNA I WANNA I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION FOR EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM TO UNDERSTAND. UM AND WONDER SOME MORBID CURIOSITY ON MY PART, BUT BUT I BUT YOUR COST AND YOU ARE YOUR ABILITY TO HAVE SANITARY, SEWER AND WATER IS THE EXACT SAME. WHETHER YOU AN X OR YOU DON'T ANNEX WE HAVE TO PROVIDE IT TO YOU AS A PROVIDER. WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THOSE THINGS TO YOU AT YOUR COST. WHETHER YOU'RE AN EXTRA NOT I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM REALIZES THAT AND THAT'S ONE OF THE POINTS I'M TRYING TO MAKE HERE VERY CLEARLY FOR EVERYBODY IS THAT THAT YOU'VE BEEN ANNEXED ISN'T WHAT ALL OF A SUDDEN GIVES YOU THE INFRASTRUCTURE. YOU HAVE THAT? YOU HAVE THAT AT YOUR DISPOSAL NOW WITH, OF COURSE, THE EXPENSE AND THE SAME EXACT EXPENSE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE IF YOU WERE UM, ANNEXED. SO WHY DO YOU WANT TO BE ANNEXED? I THINK THE QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE ENVISIONING HERE, UM. WOULD DEFINITELY BE ENHANCED IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING CLASS, A CLASS B APARTMENTS AND HIGH END AH COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL. IT TO EVERYONE ADVANTAGE FOR US TO BE IN THE CITY LIMITS AND UNDER CITY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR HIGH QUALITY PRODUCT THAT CAN BRING A LOT OF VALUE TO THIS AREA. YEAH, BECAUSE AS A AND AGAIN SOME OF MY QUESTIONS ARE SUMMER RHETORICAL. SOME ARE YOU KNOW AGAIN, I WANT FOR THE BENEFIT EVERY EVERYONE HERE. BECAUSE AS A DEVELOPER MYSELF IF I'M IN THE HAVE THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AND I HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF OPPOSITION ON THE ANNEXATION. MY THOUGHT IS GOING TO BUILD A LESSER STANDARDS. I'M NOT GOING TO WORK. I WON'T HAVE ALL THE SETBACKS. I'M GONNA HAVE HIGHER DENSITY. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE IMPOSED A NUMBER OF THINGS. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH YOUR PERMANENT PROCESS, NOT GOING TO PAY. MANY OF THE FEES. I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE ALL THE INSPECTIONS. I AM NOT GOING TO PAY PROPERTY TAX AND I'M GOING TO BUILD A CHEAPER PRODUCT AND I'M GOING TO RENT THAT PRODUCT AT THE END OF THE DAY. MY CONCERN IS A DEVELOPER. IF THIS WAS MY ONLY CONCERN IS GOING TO BE WHAT'S THE TIME GENERATING? WHAT'S THE CAPRI? WHAT CAN I SELL IT FOR? HOW MUCH I PUT IN MY POCKET? FOR YOU TO MAKE THE DECISION TO BE ANNEXED. WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS SAYING YOU'RE TAKING THAT SAME ABILITY YOU HAVE TODAY TO BUILD PRODUCT, BUT NOW YOU'RE GOING TO SUBJECT YOURSELF TO CITY STANDARDS. CITY SETBACKS. OTHER CITY REQUIREMENTS AND THOSE EXPENSES AND YOU'RE GOING TO PAY PROPERTY TAX. UM YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO SIGN UP FOR THAT. WHICH OF COURSE, IS GOING TO REQUIRE THAT YOU YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD A BETTER PRODUCT HIGHER END PRODUCT. AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE PAYING TAXES, SO YOU'RE RENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE HIRED BY DEFINITION. AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU'RE GOING TO, I THINK, BY ANY ARGUMENT HAVE TO BUILD A BETTER PRODUCT. YES, THAT'S OUR DESIRE IS TO HAVE IT A NICE DEVELOPMENT LIKE THAT. THERE ARE SOME THINGS APPEALING TO DEVELOPMENT IN THE E T. J WITHIN SIGHT. SANITARY SEWER. WE CAN HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY. WE
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WON'T BE CONSTRAINED. BY THE CITY'S REQUIREMENT TO IMPROVE ROADS BEFORE WE DEVELOP. THAT YOU WOULD YOU WOULD HAVE. YOU WOULD AVOID ALL OF THAT. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD IN THE ROOM AND. AND I DON'T SAY THAT ANY DISRESPECTFUL WAY. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT PRIOR TO BEING UP HERE AND GOING THROUGH THAT LEARNING PROCESS OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS, SO IT'S CERTAINLY JUST A MATTER OF EXPERIENCE AT THIS POINT THAT I AM ABLE TO UNDERSTAND IT, BUT. ALRIGHT I'LL HOLD ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. YOU'RE NOT GONNA BUILD THIS PROJECT FOR FOUR YEARS. WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER. CORRECT 2 TO 4 YEARS. SO YOU OKAY IF WE ANNEX YOUR PROPERTY TONIGHT, AND WE'LL WAIT ON YOUR ZONING REQUEST FOR 2 TO 4 YEARS. IT WASN'T MEANT AS A JOKE. I DON'T MEAN TO NOT BE SERIOUS ABOUT IT, BUT WE DID CONSIDER THAT POSSIBILITY. AND, UM THE WAY THIS ITEM IS PUT TOGETHER. UM ANNEXATION CANNOT OCCUR WITHOUT ZONING. SO, UM.WELL YOUR COMMERCIAL PORTION OF THIS PROJECT WON'T WORK WITHOUT YOUR MULTI FAMILY CORRECT. AND SO WE WAITED A COUPLE OF YEARS TO REZONE AS PERHAPS THERE WOULD BE MORE GROWTH IN THAT AREA THAT WOULD SUPPORT YOUR COMMERCIAL, AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE MULTI FAMILY AT THAT POINT, SAVE YOU A LOT OF MONEY, NOT BUILDING THOSE PROJECTS. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? GIVES US THE ABILITY TO HAVE THAT MUCH OF THE LATE TIME LINE IS THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT IF WE WERE NOT RECEIVED ANNEXATION AND ZONING UM. WE MAY BE BACK HERE A YEAR FROM NOW, BUT IT'S LIKELY THAT WE'RE GOING TO DIFFERENT DIRECTION. WHERE'S THE LAST PROJECT YOU BUILT OF THIS STATURE? I DO A LOT OF. I'M WORKING ON A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION AND FRISCO NOW, UM, SOME APARTMENTS IN THE D. T. J OF AUBREY. APART APARTMENT COMPLEX IN GARLAND. PRIMARILY BUILD APARTMENTS. I'M MOSTLY INTO THE RESIDENTIAL. OKAY TRIANGLE ENGINEERING, DIVERSE.
YOU HAVEN'T DONE A COMMERCIAL PROJECT AS WE HAVE. YES. YOU DIDN'T MENTION THAT. PROJECT MANAGEMENT FOR APPROXIMATELY 17 YEARS HAVE YOU DONE IN OTHER COMMERCIAL AND MULTI FAMILY PROJECTS IN THIS AREA? AND WHERE IS IT COMMERCIAL AND MULTI FAMILY COMBINED. I HAVE NOT IN THE IN THE NORTH DFW AREA. THANK YOU. FOR THE QUESTIONS. UM ALL RIGHT. WELL, I'M SURE THAT YOU MAY BE ASKED TO COME BACK UP WITH THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO, UM, WE WERE GOING TO OPEN THAT HEAR FROM PEOPLE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM AND THEN PLEASE STAY AROUND INSTAGRAM FOR QUESTIONS AFTER IF YOU WOULD JOSH. HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? 28 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO MINUTES FOR EACH PERSON TO COME UP AND SPEAK WHEN YOU COME UP, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. YOU HAVE A GREEN TIME OR TO YOUR LEFT AS IT GETS 30 SECONDS WILL TURN YELLOW WHEN IT GETS TO THE LAST THINK FIVE OR 10 SECONDS IT WILL TURN RED. JOANNE KELLY GRAHAM. MY NAME IS JOANNE KELLY GRAHAM AND I LIVE AT 13 73 COUNTY ROAD, 2 78. I MOVED TO MCKINNEY'S HISTORIC DISTRICT IN 1983. I HAVE SEEN LOTS OF GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE LAST 40 YEARS, AND MUCH OF IT HAS BEEN GOOD. IN 2017. WE MOVED TO THE PROPERTY THAT DIRECTLY ADJOINS THIS LANDING QUESTION. AS PRESENTED. THIS PROPOSAL WOULD SIX DIFFICULT LEE AND NEGATIVELY IMPACT ALL PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREA. I DO NOT OPPOSE ANNEXATION AND I DO NOT OPPOSE OPPOSE THOUGHTFUL GROWTH. I DO OPPOSE THE BUILDING OF EXTRA HIGH DENSITY. THREE STORY APARTMENT RIGHT NEXT TO AND LOOMING OVER OUR HOMES AND PASTURES. WE HAVE MET WITH DEVELOPERS MULTIPLE TIMES, AND THEY PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO PROPOSING ALTERNATIVE LAYOUTS, SCREENING CHANGES AND SEVERAL ALTERNATIVE
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ZONING PLANS. WE HAVE TRIED TO BE REASONABLE AND TO CONSIDER THE DEVELOPERS COSTS AND GOALS.HOWEVER WE HAVE BEEN STONEWALLED AND FLATLY REFUSED AT EVERY TURN THE DEVELOPERS OUT BIGGER SETBACKS AND EXTRA GREEN SPACE, BUT NONE OF THAT HELPS THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES. WE WILL GET A BRICK WALL AND A THREE STORY APARTMENT BUILDING LOOMING OVER OUR PASTURES. IT WAS VERY SURPRISING TO HAVE THE DEVELOPERS TELL US THAT THEY ARE EXPECTING FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FROM THE CITY OF MCKINNEY TO PAY THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE EXPENSES. I MIGHT NOTE THAT WE DISAGREE WITH STAFF INTERPRETATION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. PROVIDING ADDITIONAL SCREENING AND MODIFYING THE LAYOUT OF THE BUILDING WILL PROVIDE PROFITABLE DEVELOPMENT AND PROTECT THE ESTABLISHED HOMEOWNERS. I SUPPORT ANNEXATION AND GROWTH, BUT NOT THE SPECIAL ZONING EXCEPTION FOR HIGH DENSITY THREE STORY APARTMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SCOTT BROWN. MM HMM.
MY NAME IS SCOTT BROWN. I LIVE AT 12 28 MILLER ROAD EXACTLY ONE MILE FROM THE PROPOSED REZONING AND ANNEXATION SITE. I AM HERE IN SUPPORT OF MY FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS WHO ARE OPPOSED TO THE MULTI FAMILY REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY. WELL, I SHARE THEIR CONCERNS. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK UP FOR SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS WHO COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT. MCKINNEY'S EAT. J IS HOME TO SOME ABUNDANT WILDLIFE. WHILE WE ALL EXPECT TO FIND SQUIRRELS AND RABBITS, RACCOONS AND COYOTES.
THERE ARE OTHER QUITTERS, WHICH YOU MAY NOT KNOW. RESIDE IN THE J. GREAT BLUE HERONS. RED TAIL HAWKS. CANADIAN GEESE. GREAT HORNED OWLS. BOBCATS. GRAY FOX, WHITE TAILED DEER. BEAVERS. DOES ANYBODY KNOW MCKINNEY HAD BEAVERS? THANKFULLY, YES. AN AMAZINGLY. NORTH AMERICAN RIVER OTTERS. I WOULD LIKE THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ALL OF THE RAMIFICATIONS OF SHOEHORNING 300 HOMES ON SUCH A SMALL PIECE OF LAND. EVERY ONE OF THOSE ANIMALS I MENTIONED CURRENTLY RESIDES.
ON THE LAND WHERE I'VE LIVED MY WHOLE LIFE. JUST ONE MILE FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT. AS YOU WEIGH ALL THE PROS AND CONS. PLEASE DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE WILDLIFE. THE CRITTERS WON'T BRING MCKINNEY IN A TAX DOLLARS. BUT THEY'LL KEEP YOU HONEST. WITH REGARD TO YOUR CITY SLOGAN.
UNIQUE BY NATURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHET FISHER. HI. JEFF FISHER 17 28 PRIVATE ROAD 5042.
I SENT YOU ALL AN EMAIL AND SOME ATTACHMENTS. THANK YOU, MARY FULLER RESPONSE. MAYBE SO FORWARD. HAVE YOU ALL RECEIVED IT WHEN YOU READ YOUR HAND AND CONFIRM YOU RECEIVED IT. OKAY THERE'S ALSO A PACKET HERE AND CASE. YOU WANT TO BELIEVE MR DANIEL WILL BE REFERENCING IT LATER. UM SO THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING OUR CONCERNS. I AM IN SUPPORT OF ANNEXATION. I OPPOSE THE MULTI FAMILY. I OPPOSE IT BECAUSE OF LOCATION. I OPPOSE IT BECAUSE IT WILL BRING ANYWHERE BETWEEN 1000 AND 1400 PEOPLE TO THIS SPOT LOOMING OVER MY NEIGHBORS. I SUPPORT MULTI FAMILY. I'VE GOT THREE AMOUNT THREE OF MY FIVE KIDS LIVING APARTMENTS RIGHT NOW. AND I DID, TOO, AND THEY CAN'T WAIT TO GET OUT THERE NOT INVESTED. SO I CARE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY. WE CARE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY. THAT'S WHY WE'RE FISHING BACK AND RELATIVE TO THIS ANNEXATION THING. UM YOU KNOW, UM, I UNDERSTAND FROM TALKING WITH COMMISSIONER. HAIL IN THE COUNTY SERVICES. NOW IF YOU DIDN'T EXTEND SEWER TO THEM, THEY COULD ONLY BUILD 101 150 UNITS IN THE COUNTY IF THEY HAD TO DO THEIR OWN SEWER, SO THERE'D BE A LOT LESS IMPACT ON US. SO THAT'D BE A GOOD THING FOR US, AND THEY COVER A WHOLE LOT LESS GROUND. BUT I WOULD TELL YOU THIS. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MICROMANAGE HOW YOU PLAN THIS SITE. ITS WE CARE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY AND I'VE LIVED HERE SINCE 2000 AND THREE AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I USED ONLY MOVED OUT HERE UNTIL 2017.
I USED TO DRIVE UP THAT STRETCH OF HIGHWAY FIVE AND THANK KIND OF ROUGH AROUND THE EDGES, YOU KNOW, AND SO I DIDN'T THINK MUCH ABOUT IT. BUT THEN I TOOK A LITTLE DRIVE OVER AND SAW HOW BEAUTIFUL IT WAS AND HOW MUCH POTENTIAL IT WAS. AND WE JUST HOPE THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT AND I COULD SAY THE SAME THING FROM MCDONALD OUT HERE IN 2000 AND THREE. YOU'VE REALLY DONE IT.
YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THE CITY CENTER. GIVE US THAT MUCH RESPECT,
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PLEASE. WHEN YOU PLAN THIS, THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING. THANKS. THANK YOU. PHIL DANIEL. MANAGE TO BUILD DANIEL ON 14TH CENT AND ROAD. I AM MELISSA IN THE EVENT THAT YOU GUYS DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME TO TAKE THE GO THROUGH THESE DRAWINGS, AND WE CAN'T USE THAT. A SECOND AGO, YOU HEARD A REFERENCE ABOUT COMMUNITY OUTREACH. I'LL EXPLAIN WHY LATER , BUT I PERSONALLY GIVE THAT ABOUT FOUR PINOCCHIOS. THE LAST ZOOM CALL WE HAD WITH THE DEVELOPERS. WE OFFERED SOME SOLUTIONS, WHICH I'LL GO THROUGH WITH YOU. AND THEY'RE CLOSING COMMENT WAS THAT IF WE DON'T GET THIS HAND X WILL TURN INTO A TRAILER PARK OR AN RV PARK. THAT'S THE WAY THE CONVERSATION ENDED. THIS IS THE PROPOSED AREA RIGHT HERE, WHICH YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S HOW I FILE THEY WERE GRANTED MULTIPLE VARIANCES BECAUSE THE LITTLE LEVEL OF EGRESS AND INGRESS IF YOU SEE ON THIS SHORT RIGHT HERE. WOULD THEY PUT 339 THROUGH? THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT INGRESS AND EGRESS. WHICH GOES AGAINST HER BASIC ARGUMENT HERE. WHY THEY NEEDED ALL THE VARIOUS . THEY'RE JUST SIMPLY TRYING TO BUILD DENSITY. WHICH OBVIOUSLY INCREASES THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY, BUT I DON'T BLAME THEM FOR THAT. I DON'T LIKE WHAT IT DOES WITH THE REST OF US AND THEN YOUR FEBRUARY 8TH PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING COMMENT WAS MADE THAT GIVEN THE PROPOSAL THE PROS MULTI FAMILY USES. THE REZONING REQUEST DOES NOT A ONE WITH THE COMMERCIAL. CAN'T CENTER PLACE TYPE OF THE ESTABLISHED COMMUNITY IN THIS AH! MCKINNEY IS INTERESTED IN PROPERTY FOR APARTMENTS, WHICH WE UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE CURRENT AREA WITH ALL THE RESIDENCES AROUND IT. THERE'S A HUGE OPEN AREA RIGHT UP HERE, TJ. THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE ALL THE APARTMENTS. YOU WANT TO PUT US AWAY FROM ALL RESIDENTIAL AREAS. WE MET WITH HIM TWICE. WE MADE PROPOSALS WE ASKED FOR GREEN SPACES. WE ASKED FOR SETBACKS. WE ASKED FOR MOUNDS.WE GOT NOWHERE WITH REJECT. AND THAT WAS TO AS SINGLE FAMILY. WE ALSO DID A C TWO PROPOSALS NEED.
I NEED TO KEEP IT EVEN BUT I WILL BE CIRCLING BACK TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS YOU MADE WITH STAFF SHORTLY. THAT'S WHERE I AM INITIATED CONVERSATIONS ABOUT FREE ANNEXATION. STEVE SHARP.
MY NAME IS STEVE SHORT. MY ADDRESS IS 15 80 COUNTY ROAD. 3 39 MELISSA, TEXAS. MY WIFE AND I HAVE RESULTED AT THIS ADDRESS FOR OVER 20 YEARS. I AM HERE TODAY TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO ZONING CASE 21 00 38 Z. TO BE SPECIFIC. IT IS THE ANNEXATION WITH MULTI FAMILIES OWNING I OPPOSE IS THERE ARE OTHER VIABLE OPTIONS. AFTER LIVING IN THE AREA FOR OVER 20 YEARS, I REALIZED THAT CHANGE AND GROWTH OR BOTH INEVITABLE AND NECESSARY. I WOULD ACTUALLY SUPPORT ANNEXATION WITH COMMERCIAL OR SINGLE FAMILY ZONING. MULTI FAMILIES OWNING IS SIMPLY NOT A FIT FOR THIS AREA OF THE MIDDLE. KENNY E. T. J FOR SEVERAL REASONS AND FACTS THAT HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY STATED. NUMBER ONE. THE DEFINING CHARACTERISTICS OF THE AREA DO NOT ALIGN WITH MULTI FAMILY URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD. THE PROBE NUMBER TWO. THE PROFILE OF THE AREA DOES NOT HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT MULTI FAMILY URBAN LIFESTYLE NUMBER THREE. THE EXISTING ROAD NETWORK IS NOT DESIGNED TO SUPPORT THE ADDED TRAFFIC CONGESTION. THAT WOULD RESULT IN MULTI FAMILY OR RENT DEVELOPMENT. I'M ASKING EACH OF YOU AS MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. AND VOTE NO ON THE REQUESTED RE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARGARET BULLY. REALLY? YOU'RE CLOSE ENOUGH. MARGARET JULIE 900 VAN AND ROAD, WHICH IS THE CORNER OF BANNON AND 3 39 WITHIN BOTH THE MCKINNEY TJ AND THE 200 FT ZONE ON MARCH 25 ACRES HAVE BEEN IN MY FAMILY. SINCE 19 OH NINE. WHEN MY GREAT GRANDPARENTS PURCHASED IT AS PART OF A LARGER TRACT. I WAS BORN IN THE OLD CITY COUNTY HOSPITAL OVERLOOKING FINCH PARK. AND I GRADUATED FROM WHAT WAS THE ONLY MCKINNEY HIGH SCHOOL IN 1973. WHICH IS JUST TO SAY THAT MY ROOTS HERE ARE DEEP TIES ARE LONG. AND I'M HERE TO ASK YOU ABOUT FOUR. THIS ANNEXATION AND ZONING. I WANT TO COMMAND THE CURRENT OWNERS OF
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THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION FOR SEEKING TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF MCKINNEY TO ASSURE QUALITY DEVELOPMENT. THEY CERTAINLY HAD AND STILL HAVE WITHOUT YOUR YES VOTE. THE OPTION TO BUILD WHATEVER THEY WISH, WITH ONLY THE MINIMAL GUIDANCE THAT THE COUNTY PROVIDES. YOUR APPROVAL WILL BRING AN INCREASED TAX BASE THAT WILL BENEFIT SCHOOLS IN THE MELISSA S D, AS WELL AS AREA INFRASTRUCTURE, SEWER SERVICE POLICE PATROLS. FIRE DEPARTMENT GARBAGE PICKUP, INCLUDING CITY, WATER DEPARTMENT AND STREET DEPARTMENT AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT TO MAINTAIN THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. AND VERY IMPORTANTLY TO ME. THE LEGAL OBLIGATION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT TO ABIDE BY THE CITY OF MCKINNEY REGULATIONS REGARDING SETBACKS AND LANDSCAPING AND AESTHETICS AND AMENITIES. MOST OF THE OBJECTIONS TO THIS PROJECT THAT I'VE HEARD REVOLVE AROUND TRAFFIC SCHOOLS AND LOSS OF RURAL SETTING. BECAUSE OF TIME RESTRICTIONS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS REGARDING TRAFFIC. MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROPOSAL IS THAT THE DEVELOPER IS COMMITTING TO CONTACT A TRAFFIC SERVICE STUDY AND ADDRESSING ISSUES AS WELL AS TO DEDICATING LAND AT NO COST TO THE CITY. TO A WIDENED 339, WHICH WOULD CONNECT HIGHWAY FIVE. TEXT DOT HAS CURRENT PLANS TO REROUTE HIGHWAY. I'M SORRY. I HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR OVER 100 YEARS TO STOP YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ERNEST MARTIN. I'M DR ERNEST MARTIN RESIDED 15 85 COUNTY ROAD THROUGH 39. EVERYTHING IS ABOUT NEIGHBORHOODS. NEIGHBORHOODS OR THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS IN OUR EXISTENCE. AND I'VE BEEN IN SOME 29 YEARS OF AGE AND I'VE BEEN IN MANY NEIGHBORHOODS, GOOD NEIGHBORS, AND I'VE HAD BAD NEIGHBORS. I'D LIKE TO USE AN ILLUSTRATION HERE. YOU ARE GIVEN A SHOVEL IN YOUR TOLD TO DIG A DITCH. GIVEN TO PAIR OF GLOVES AND ONE PAIR OF GLOVES IS WAY TOO BIG. AND IT WON'T FIT HAS A PAIR OF GLOVES IS WAY TOO SMALL.AND IT WON'T GO ON. SO YOU PUT ON THE BIG GLOVES. AND WHAT DID YOU GET? YOU GET BUSTERS BECAUSE YOUR HAND WEARS OFF. TRY AND YOU CAN'T PUT ON THE SMALL GLOVES. SO YOU WRAP IT AROUND THE HANDLE AND YOU GET BUSTERS. AND THOSE BUSTERS JUST KEEP ON GROWING AND GETTING BIGGER AND IN THE GET MORE AND MORE IRRITATING, AND IT CAUSED MORE TROUBLE. WHEN WE PUT A MULTIFAMILY UNIT IN THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. IT DOESN'T FIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT DOESN'T COME ANY CLOCKS. AND IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO CREATE A BIG OLD BUSTER. THAT'S GOING TO IRRITATE. AND EVERYTHING IS GOING TO GO BACK. I THINK ABOUT THE REPORT PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE LED INTO THESE APARTMENTS.
IT'S SIX MILES TO THE NEAREST GROCERY STORE. THERE IS NO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET IN THERE. AND WHEN MOM MUST STARTS TO BAKE A CAKE AND REALIZE THAT SHE DOESN'T HAVE AN EGG. HER CAKE IS GONE. WELL, SOMEBODY ASKED TO DRIVE SIX MILES TO GET ANOTHER BREAK. PEOPLE THIS THIS DOESN'T FIT. IT DOESN'T FIT THE GLOVE. IT DOESN'T FIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT DOESN'T FIT THE COMMUNITY. LET'S AN EXIT AND BUILD SOMETHING THAT FITS THE COMMUNITY AND PUT THE RIGHT GLOVE ON. OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. JANELLE SHARP. HMM. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JOHN L SHARP AT 15 80 COUNTY ROAD. 339 MELISSA, TEXAS. MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS, AS HE SAID. EARLIER WE LOVE IT HERE. IN WHAT WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WHEN WE MOVED TO THIS AREA MANY YEARS AGO, IN FACT, OVER 40 YEARS AGO WITH MY YOUNG FAMILY COURT ROAD BETWEEN UH, PLANO AND RICHARDSON WAS A ROCK ROAD. A FEW YEARS LATER, WE MOVED TO THE PROSPER AREA. ROCKHILL ROAD THROUGH STONEBRIDGE WAS ROUGH. MY THREE CHILDREN ATTENDED PROSPEROUS D. MY YOUNGEST AT THE ELEMENTARY, ONE SON AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND MY OLDEST SON AT THE HOSPITAL. COOL. ALL THREE CHILDREN WERE IN THE SAME BUILDING. MY POINT IS.
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I'VE SEEN A LOT OF PROGRESS, GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA OVER THE YEARS, AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO PROGRESS AND GROWTH WHEN IT IS PRACTICAL AND APPROPRIATE. AN APPROPRIATE FIT FOR THE LOCATION AND AREA. I'M HERE AGAIN TODAY DIVORCE MY OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING FOR MULTI FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD DETAILED IN THIS CASE. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO SINGLE FAMILY OR EVEN COMMERCIAL SAAMI. THERE ARE MANY REASONS DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY HAS PROPOSED IS NOT APPROPRIATE OR PRACTICE. AS MENTIONED THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT EXIST. BANNON ROAD BETWEEN HIGHWAY FIVE AND, UM COUNTY ROAD, 2 78 IS IN ILL REPAIR. AGAIN TODAY. I'M ASKING EACH OF YOU AS MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO VOTE NO ON THE PROPOSAL IN THIS CASE. THERE ARE MANY OTHER VIABLE AND ACCEPTABLE OPTIONS FOR ALL PARTIES. AS MENTIONED, POLICE CONSIDER THEM I DO. THANK EACH OF YOU FOR YOUR TIME. UH, FOR LISTENING TO MY STORY. AND FOR FOLLOWING ME, ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE. THANK YOU. ROSALIE, UM CGS SUGGESTS. TO GUESS. SURROGACY. TO BE FAIR, AND IT'S HARD. MEANWHILE, YEAH. IT'S GREAT. GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING TO US. I LIVE ON PRIVATE ROAD 50 42. I AM A NEW RESIDENT OF MCKINNEY BY ABOUT EIGHT YEARS. PREVIOUS TO THAT I LIVED IN PLANO AND IN NEW YORK. I LIVED IN A VARIETY OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND FORMER TEACHER AND THE ONE THING THAT CONCERNS ME IS THE IMPACT THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAVE ON OUR COMMUNITY. THE TRAFFIC AND THE CHILDREN THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THAT IN THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT HAVE TO GO TO THE SCHOOL. THERE'S NO ROADS. HOW ARE THEY GETTING THERE? THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE PASSED BECAUSE IT'S A VERY SHORT DISTANCE. AND I THINK THAT IS A MAJOR CONCERN WHEN KIDS HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORTH TO SCHOOL, AND THEY HAVE TO THEN WALK OUR STREETS. THERE ARE NO STREETS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME OUT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND SEE THE SITE. THAT WE ARE QUESTIONING, BUT IT IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO HAVE THIS MANY HOMES IN THAT AREA. THE OTHER THING THAT ATTRACTED ME TO THE AREA OF MCKINNEY IS THE SLOGAN UNIQUE BY NATURE. PLEASE LIVE UP TO THAT SLOGAN. THANK YOU. I AM NOT OPPOSED TO HAVING ANNEXATION . I THINK IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. HOWEVER I AM OPPOSED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF A MULTI FAMILY UNIT THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM SELL. SURROGACY. MYSELF TO GC. BUT 17 47 PRIVATE ROAD, 50 42. WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY FIVE YEARS AGO. UH WE LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY WE FELL IN LOVE WITH THE COMMUNITY. IT'S A RURAL AREA. THERE ARE FARMS ARE RANCHES. AND THAT'S THE KIND OF ENVIRONMENT THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR. AND THE ROADS OR COUNTY ROADS, SO THEY'RE VERY, VERY THIN ROADS, SIDEWALKS, AND THAT'S FINE WITH US. UM WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE WEALTHY FAMILY HOUSING. BECAUSE OF THE CONGESTION THAT IS GOING TO CAUSE NOT OPPOSED TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. WE NEED STORES. WE NEED SERVICES IN THE AREA. BUT I AM OPPOSED TO THE MULTI FAMILY HOUSING. UM BECAUSE OF ALL THAT'S BEEN SAID. AS MY WIFE POINTED OUT. THE SCHOOL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS PRETTY CLOSE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS ON COUNTY ROAD. 2 78. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO PUT IN SIDEWALKS. THEY LEAVE FROM THIS FROM THAT DEVELOPMENT AREA, TOO. ALONG FENTON ROAD, COUNTY ROAD, 2 78. TO GET TO THE SCHOOL, SO THE ONLY CHOICE IS TO DRIVE AND THE BOTTLENECKS. ARE GOING TO BE ASTRONOMICAL. BECAUSE THEY ARE THIN ROADS. WHY HE'S GOING TO DEVELOP. IN FRONT OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND MAKE THE ROADS WIDER IS NOT GOING TO GO ANY FURTHER. TO ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION. SO UH, I AM[01:10:01]
NOT OPPOSED TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BECAUSE IT'LL BE LESS TRAFFIC AND IT'S MORE IN KEEPING WITH THE ENVIRONMENT. IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING TO ME. AND I HOPE YOU CONSIDER OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR NOT APPROVING MULTI FAMILY HAS THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WHEN I IF I CALL YOUR NAME, AND YOU HAD CHECKED THE BOX THAT YOU DID NOT WISH TO SPEAK JUST BUT YOU WANT TO REGISTER YOUR OPPOSITION. PLEASE FEEL FREE. YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR MIND COME UP AND SPEAK OR OR JUST STATE THAT YOU JUST WANT TO REGISTER YOUR OPPOSITION.DON'T FEEL THAT YOU NEED TO SPEAK IF YOU IF YOU DON'T IF YOU'D RATHER JUST REGISTER OF THE OPPOSITION. AND. PETER LINK A OR LINK. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANKS FOR LISTENING TO US. MY NAME IS PETER LINKE. I'M AT 1990 SUNSET TRAIL. IN MCKINNEY. AND I'M HERT TO OPPOSE THE RESIGNING FOR MULTI FAMILY. UM IN OUR BUSINESS. WE MHM RELY ON DEVELOPMENT AND WE LIKE DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE THINK THAT A MULTI FAMILY FACILITY IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS INAPPROPRIATE. FOR ALL THE REASONS ALREADY STATED, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S NOT JUST THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE EXISTING ROADS. THAT WILL BE OVERBURDENED BY THIS, BUT I ALSO DON'T REALLY SEE. WHERE IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE LIVING IN THIS MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. AS SOMEONE ELSE, SAID IT'S SIX MILES AND YEARS GROCERY STORE. AND SO I THINK IT'S A IT'S A DIFFICULT PROSPECT. AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. THANKS. THANK YOU, SIR. EVA. OKAY. WHAT DO YOU DO? SURE, OPPOSITION I AGREE. THANK YOU. WILLIAM STOVALL. HELLO MY NAME IS WILLIAM KIBBE STOVALL. I LIVE IN 1991 SUNSET TRAIL. I OPPOSE THIS PRIMARY FOR THE SAME REASONS GIVEN BEFORE NOT OPPOSED TO GROWTH AND OPPOSED TO THE HIGH DENSITY FAMILY. TO LEVERAGE OFF OF WHAT DR MARTIN SAID EARLIER. I THINK THAT APPEALS TO ME MOST IS TO SAY THIS COMMUNITY WHERE THIS WILL BE A BUDDING IS NOW COMPOSED OF FAIRLY SMALL FARMS, SMALL RANCHES. IT'S NOT COMMERCIAL FARMING PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO LIVE ON SMALL FARMERS RAISE SMALL CATTLE RAISED SMALL GOATS. AND THIS IS A I'M NOT STOPPING UNIQUE TO MCKINNEY. BUT THIS IS A PART OF MCKINNEY LIFESTYLE PART OF MCKINNEY AREA THAT STILL REMAINS UNIQUE. AND YOU CAN SEE IS NOT JUST A, UH, BEDROOM COMMUNITY FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT WHO LIVE IN OR WORK IN DALLAS. I WANT TO TRAVEL SOUTH. THIS IS A PIECE OF WHAT MCKINNEY MAKES YOU, KENNY. INTERESTING AND UNIQUE IS TO HAVE A COMMUNITY LIKE THIS. AND TO START PUSHING HIGH DENSITY NEXT TO IT REALLY UNRAVELS THE SENSE OF QUALITY OF LIFE. PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN THAT AREA HAVE LIVED THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS THAT THEY LIKE, AND THAT IS MY PRIMARY OPPOSITION. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, SIR. JANET. IS IT GAGAN IN KENYA. I WAS GOING TO GO WITH THAT VIRUS SPREAD. JANET JAGAN IN 1991 SUNSET TRAIL, MCKINNEY AND I AM HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS AS WELL.
UH, I WOULD URGE THIS BODY TO SEVER THE ANNEXATION SEPARATELY FROM THE ZONING, AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER BY COUNCIL MEMBER PHILLIPS. IF THAT IS NOT DOABLE, THEN I WOULD URGE A NO ON BOTH BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS TO KICK THE INVESTOR IN THE BUTT. TO GET THEM TO COME BACK WITH A BETTER PROJECT. WE HAVE TRIED NUMEROUS TIMES TO DISCUSS WITH THEM AND HERE EVEN TODAY, THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP FOR YOU, EITHER. THEY SENT THEIR ENGINEER AND MY QUESTION WOULD HAVE BEEN HOW MANY PROJECTS HAS THE INVESTOR ACTUALLY DONE AND COMPLETED OF ANY SORT COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL MIXED ANYTHING. THESE ARE FLIPPERS. THEY HAVE NO INVESTMENT IN THIS COMMUNITY.
THEY ARE HERE AND GONE. AND THEY'RE LEAVING A MESS FOR US WHO LIVE NEAR IT. AND FOR YOU, THE CITY WHO WILL HAVE IT IN ITS JURISDICTION. DON'T SETTLE FOR LESS THIS. YOU DON'T NEED A PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ALBATROSS AROUND YOUR NECK FROM THE NEXT 5 10 15 YEARS ONCE THIS IS INSTALLED AS EVERYONE HAS SAID. IT DOESN'T FIT OUR COMMUNITY. WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE A SMALL ADDITIONAL QUOTE UNQUOTE WILLOW, WOULD WE EVEN BE HAPPY WITH IT BEING ALL COMMERCIAL,
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WITH THE BACK HALF BEING LOW DENSITY COMMERCIAL C ONE. AND THAT WOULD BRING THE CITY EVEN MORE MONEY IN REVENUES. IF THE ISSUE IS HOW DO WE GET THE MOST BANG FOR OUR BUCK? AS THE CITY COUNCIL? WE WOULD URGE THAT EVEN THE INVESTORS THREATENING US AND SAYING, WELL, WE'LL PUT AN RV PARK IN IF WE DON'T GET OUR ANNEXATION, YOU GUYS DON'T SHUT UP. WE SAY, DO IT. WE'D RATHER HAVE AN RV PARK BECAUSE IT WOULD BE ONE STORY AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. WE DON'T WANT A THREE STORY BUILDING LOOKING DOWN INTO OUR BACKYARD AND THEY PROVIDE NO JUSTIFICATION. WHY THE EXISTING ZONING WON'T WORK FOR THEM, SO I WOULD URGE AN OPPOSITION ON THIS. THANK YOU.THANK YOU. BRUCE YOU GOTTA HAVE SOME GRACE ON THIS ONE. THIS IS BRUCE EDWARD BORA, VIVICA. HERE COMES TO TROUBLE ON HIM LAST. WHAT IS IT VICTOR WAS AN EXTRA V THERE THROUGH ME? YEAH, YEAH.
PERFECTLY. MY NAME IS BURST BARVIKHA AND MY ADDRESS IS 63 48 NORTH MCDONALD. SPOUSE AND I HAVE RESIDED OUR ADDRESS FOR ROUGHLY FIVE YEARS. I AM HERE TODAY TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. TONIGHT YOU WILL HEAR AND HAVE HEARD, UM, NUMEROUS COMMENTS REGARDING WHY THERE'S NO WHILE THERE IS OPPOSITION. TO THE REQUESTED ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT. I AM HERE TO SUPPORT THOSE COMMENTS AND PERSONALLY ASK YOU TO US COUNCIL MEMBERS TO VOTE NO. ON THE REQUEST ZONING. THERE ARE OTHER AVAILABLE AND SUITABLE OPTIONS AND POLICE CONSIDER HIM. THANK YOU. I'M STEVE FOR LONG. OKAY? DUTY FOR LONG. UM NICOLE, COMING, MR MAYOR. SORRY. FOR A MOMENT RESIDE AT 63 76 NORTH MCDONALD. MY PROPERTY ABUTS THE PROPERTY AND QUESTION. I'M ALSO A LONGTIME MCKINNEY, COLLIN COUNTY RESIDENTS. I HAVE A I AM A TAXPAYER. I HAVE A BUSINESS IN MCKINNEY THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1970 BY MY FATHER IN LAW. BEING THE ABOUT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY . I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE WATER WOULD BE HAVE TO BE PROVIDED BY NORTH COLIN SUD. AND THEY'RE GOING TO THEIR BOARD MEETINGS. I KNOW THEY CANNOT PROVIDE WATER TO MULTI FAMILY. UM FACILITY AND THEN THE WE HAVE OUR OWN. UM SEWER SYSTEMS OUT THERE WITH THE TOP OF SEPTIC TANKS THAT WE HAVE AND YOU CAN'T PUT A MULTI FAMILY OWNED SEPTIC TANK. NO MATTER WHAT VER MY UNDERSTANDING FROM GOING TO NORTH COLUMN WATER BOARD MEETINGS. THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE BODY SERVICE AREA FROM NORTH COLIN. SINCE THAT IS THEIR THEIR AREA. SO THAT WOULD BE ADDITIONAL COSTS, WHICH I'M ASSUMING WOULD GO GO TO THE INVESTORS OR DEVELOPER IF IT'S NOT SUB SUB PROVIDING FOR Y'ALL SO THE WATER IS NOT THERE WITHOUT BEING AH! BROUGHT INTO THE CITY OF MALAYSIA IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY BEING IN THE E T. J.
SO I DO SUPPORT ANNEXATION, BUT I DO NOT SUPPORT THE MULTI FAMILY. THREE STORIES, HIGH DENSITY. AND, UM UM I JUST THINK THAT DOESN'T FIT OUR. AREA THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. THANK YOU. NICOLE BARVIKHA. AH! YOU SAW THAT, RIGHT? IT WASN'T ME. UM MY NAME IS NICOLE BORDER. VIKA. MY ADDRESS IS 63 48 NORTH MCDONALD , MELISSA, TEXAS. MY FAMILY AND I HAVE RESIDED HERE FOR AT THIS ADDRESS. FOR FIVE YEARS, MY PARENTS BOUGHT 63 76, WHICH IS DIRECTLY BEHIND US, THE SAME PROPERTY IN 2000 AND SIX I AM HERE TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO THE MULTI THE HIGH DENSITY, MULTI FAMILY ZONING. I AM NEITHER AGAINST OUR FOR THE ANNEXATION. UM. BUT I AM AGAINST THE MULTI FAMILY. IT DOES NOT FIT INTO OUR LAND, AND WE WILL BE RIGHT THERE AGAINST, UM THE. COMMERCIAL AND THE MULTI FAMILY . UM AND IT DOES NOT FIT IN WITH
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OUR COWS AND CHICKENS. UM THEY WILL PROBABLY NOT LIKE THE SMELL THAT CHICKENS AND COWS SMELL LIKE THERE'S ALSO GOES AGAINST THE, UM 2040 MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN BECAUSE THAT WAS UM, IN THAT PLAN, IT WAS STATED RULE YOU ROLL AND A STATE LIVING OR SUBURBAN LIVING. UH SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE MY OPPOSITION FOR THE MULTIFAITH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM BRUCE BARVIKHA, SENIOR.NOT HERE, OKAY? COREY MARTIN. MY NAME IS COREY MARTIN. I LIVE AT 15 75 COUNTY ROAD. 3 39. I HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 25 YEARS AND I LOVE IT OUT THERE. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE ANNEXATION. THE ZONING CONCERNS ME AND IT'S THE TYPE OF ZONING. I THINK ABOUT ALL THE CHILDREN THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THAT BUILDING AND THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO GET OUT AND PLAY AND RUN AROUND. AND I WAS A KID. ONCE I WALK THE NEIGHBORHOOD I RAN AROUND IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE AREA IS JUST NOT SAFE FOR IT. YOU'RE BETTING UP TO HIGHWAY FIVE. IT'S VERY BUSY. PHANTOM ROAD THAT'S NOW VERY BUSY AND 1 21, WHICH IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. FOR LITTLE KIDS TO WANT OR TEENAGERS FOR THAT MATTER TO ONE ACROSS THE STREETS AND GO AND HANG OUT WITH THEIR FRIENDS OR WHERE IS THE GROCERY STORES AND THE RESTAURANTS FOR THEM TO GO AND HANG OUT AT UM, THE DEVELOPER OR THE ENGINEER DID SAY SOMETHING ABOUT COMMERCIAL. I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S PLANNING A GROCERY STORE, OR THESE TYPES OF THINGS ARE NOT BUT IT JUST IT HURTS MY HEART. THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT THESE KIDS LOTS OF KIDS POTENTIALLY OUT THERE, TOO. WALK AND RUN IN THESE AREAS, WHICH IS VERY DANGEROUS. WE HAVE SNAKES. WE HAVE SKUNKS. WE HAVE. VERY DANGEROUS AREAS FOR THEM BARBWIRE FENCES THAT YOU DON'T KNOW UNTIL YOU'RE ON THEM. UM AND THEN OTHER PEOPLE TRYING TO PROTECT THEIR PROPERTY, NOT KNOWING THAT THERE'S A KID THERE AND THINKING IT'S A DANGEROUS ANIMAL. UM, JUST I OPPOSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LISA IS IT NEEDN'T INES.
HI. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING TO ME. I THINK I'M GOING TO BRING A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE THAN MOST OF THE FOLKS HERE. I'M AT 905 HODGE STREET IN WILLOW WOOD. I'M A NEW TEXT IN BEEN HERE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. I'M FROM CALIFORNIA. DON'T DON'T DO YET. UM AND WE KEEP WE CAME HERE BECAUSE WE LOVE TEXAS. BUT LET ME TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WORRIES US. WE CAME FROM CALIFORNIA. I GREW UP IN SMALL TOWNS AND DIEGO THAT WAS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, REALLY HIGH QUALITY SCHOOLS, VERY MUCH TEXAS CULTURE. EVERYBODY WAS VERY INVOLVED IN SCHOOLS. AND WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING IS ALL OF THESE HIGH DENSITY AND MULTI FAMILY UNITS STARTED COMING IN. WHAT CAME WITH IT WAS CRIME. WHAT CAME WITH IT WAS DRUGS.
WHAT CAME WITH IT WAS KIDS WHO ARE IN AREAS THAT THERE WAS NOTHING TO DO SO GRAFFITI STARTED HAPPENING. VANDALISM STARTED HAPPENING, SHOPLIFTING ALMOST HAPPENING ALL THROUGH.
YOU KNOW THESE COMMUNITIES AS A HOMEOWNER. NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT VERY CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MY PROPERTY VALUE AND THE PROPERTY VALUE OF ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS THAT ARE HERE. UM AND I KNOW THAT IT'S A DISSATISFIED FOR ANYBODY WHO'S LOOKING TO BUY INTO THESE PROPERTIES. I ALSO WANTED TO TAP ON THE FACT THAT I'M PROBABLY ONE OF THE ONLY PEOPLE HERE THAT HAS CHILDREN WHO GO TO WILLOW WOOD ELEMENTARY . THEY JUST OPENED THIS YEAR WAS THEIR FIRST YEAR. THEY ALREADY HAVE MODULE CLASSROOMS THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT IN AND THEY DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO HANDLE THE EXPANDING WILLOW WOOD COMMUNITY, LET ALONE HIGH DENSITY, YOU KNOW, LIVING UM, WHEN THERE'S RAINY DAYS ARE REALLY HOT DAYS AND PARENTS ARE ALL TAKING THEIR KIDS TO AND FROM SCHOOL. UM, IT'S LITERALLY A TWO HOUR WAIT IN CARPOOL LANE TO GET YOUR KIDS TO AND FROM SCHOOL AT WILLOW WOOD, BECAUSE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT THERE WERE HIGHLY OPPOSED TO THE MULTI FAMILY REZONING AND WE HOPE THAT YOU GUYS AGREE WITH US. THANK YOU. RED BALANCE.
HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND HONORABLE MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE CHANCE. MY NAME IS RED COLLINS. I'M AT 706 WOULD DOCK IN MCKINNEY. UM I, UM I MENTIONED BEFORE I'M A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL TRAFFIC ENGINEER. CIVIL ENGINEER. I DO APPRECIATE THE COMMENTARY FROM THE
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DEVELOPERS. CIVIL ENGINEER. WHAT I DON'T APPRECIATE SO MUCH AS THE DIS ENGINE. OOH, ITTY. WHILE IT MAY BE TRUE THAT THE FACILITY COULD DEVELOP IN SOME WAY WITHOUT THE CITY'S CONNECTION TO THE SEWER. THERE IS STILL AN AGENCY CALLED THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, AND THEY CONTROL ALL SEWAGE FACILITIES. BY MY INVESTIGATION, THEY WOULD REQUIRE EIGHT ACRES OF DRIP FIELD TO SERVICE THIS FACILITY. WHICH IS 40% OF THEIR LOT, THEY MIGHT CONTEMPLATE SOMETHING IN THE WAY OF AN ON SITE TREATMENT PLANT, BUT THAT WOULD BE ABOUT A MILLION DOLLAR ENDEAVOR. I SUSPECT UM, I ALSO, I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. ABSENT THE BENEFIT OF A SITE PLAN OR A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. I'VE HAD TO MAKE SOME ASSUMPTIONS, BUT I HAVE CALCULATED A FEW THINGS. WHAT I HAVE FOUND IS THAT THE TRAFFIC ON FANNIN ROAD, UH WOULD ALLOW FROM ITS APPROXIMATE VALUE OF 650 VEHICLES PER DAY TODAY TO ABOUT 3261 VEHICLES PER DAY THAT REPRESENTS A 405% INCREASE. SHOULD THIS DEVELOPMENT COME IN . THOSE ARE ESTIMATED FIGURES, BUT IF I COULD SEE A SAD PLAN, I WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT BETTER. I WOULD SAY THAT, UM THE ROADWAY NETWORK WOULD HAVE TO BE IMPROVED, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, AS A CITY WE CANNOT FORCE THEM TO IMPROVE IT BEYOND THEIR OWN BOUNDARIES, WITH LIMITED EXCEPTIONS. MY ESTIMATE IS THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE ABOUT 3100 LINEAR FEET OF CONCRETE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS BEYOND THEIR OWN BOUNDARIES, SO I WILL LEAVE YOU BY SAYING THAT COUNCILMAN PHILLIPS HAD A GREAT QUESTION. CAN WE ANNEX BUT NOT ZONE? I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.AND I DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, KATHLEEN KATHLEEN DAHLAN'S DOLANS OH, HI. I'M KATHLEEN DARLINGS I LIVE AT 706 WERE DUCK AND MCKINNEY AND COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE. APPRECIATE IT. I AM OPPOSITION TO THE MULTI FAMILY AS PROPOSED.
THIS AREA DOES NOT FIT WITH MULTI FAMILY. THIS AREA IS MOSTLY AGRICULTURE. AS YOU HAVE HEARD FROM OUR FELLOW NEIGHBORS, AND, UM LARGEST STATES. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE WILLOW WOOD, WHICH IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MULTI FAMILY APARTMENT COMPLEX DOES NOT FIT WITH THIS THIS LIFESTYLE OUT HERE. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL AREA, AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT IS IN LINE WITH WHAT THIS AREA IS LOOKING FOR. IN ADDITION, WILLOW WOOD ELEMENTARY IS SERVED BY THIS AREA WILL IT WOULD MAY NOT BE AN MSD, BUT THESE KIDS STILL CALL MCKINNEY HOME. THEY'RE STILL IN MCKINNEY'S DISTRICT. AND SO THERE'S THIS SCHOOL LIKE ANOTHER NEIGHBOR SAID. THERE ARE FULL AND IF YOU ADD A MULTI FAMILY APARTMENT COMPLEX, THIS IS GOING TO PUSH FURTHER CHILDREN INTO THIS SCHOOL THAT THE SCHOOL CANNOT HANDLE. THE ROADS CANNOT HANDLE IT. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'VE DRIVEN THIS ROAD, BUT IT'S SUPPOSEDLY A TWO LANE ASPHALT ROAD. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT TULANE. I MEAN TO THE TWO CARDS HAVE TO KIND OF MOVE AROUND EACH OTHER TO BE A TWO LANE, RIGHT.
IT'S FULL OF POTHOLES. I KIND OF LOVE IT. IT'S COUNTRY LIVING. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? IT CAN'T SUPPORT ALL OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND ALL OF THESE MULTI FAMILY APARTMENT COMPLEX. ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE DRIVING NEED TO GET TO SCHOOL BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE KIDS IF THERE'S APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S INEVITABLE. UM SO I JUST LIKE TO SAY I OPPOSE THEM. ULTIMATELY, ZONING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. TERRY IS THAT HAMMOCK OR HAMMOCK? HAMMOCK. TERRY HAMMOCK. I LIVE AT 34 77 COUNTY ROAD, 3 38. UM WHAT MORE CAN I SAY? I JUST REITERATE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT, UM THE CITY'S ON PLAN. DOESN'T CALL FOR MULTI FAMILY. THAT'S THE PART THAT WE'RE ALL OPPOSED TO.
WE DON'T OPPOSE THE ANNEXATION. YOU KNOW, WE RECOGNIZED THE BENEFIT THAT THAT WOULD BE, UH, IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT. SO WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. BUT. PUTTING THIS MULTI ARE PUTTING A MULTI FAMILY SITUATION IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD JUST DOESN'T WORK AND, UH I WOULD JUST SAY THAT WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU CONSIDER THE SURROUNDING AREAS. IT DOESN'T YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL DOESN'T MEAN RETAIL. IT COULD BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE ALL THE EXISTING BUSINESSES THERE ALREADY. THEY DON'T DEPEND ON FOOT TRAFFIC. CONTRARY TO WHAT THE APARTMENT BUILDERS SAID. YOU KNOW YOU CAN BUILD. YOU CAN HAVE COMMERCIAL THAT DOESN'T DEPEND ON THAT. SO I DISAGREE WITH HIS ASSESSMENT THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MULTI FAMILY TO MAKE IT WORK. THAT'S
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JUST NOT TRUE. HE OBVIOUSLY IS IN IT FOR HIS OWN PERSONAL GAIN . HE BUILDS APARTMENTS. SO UNDERSTANDABLY WHY HE WOULD WANT THAT. BUT IT'S JUST NOT NECESSARY AND. AGAIN. THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT ROUTES THAN WAYS THAT WE COULD GO. SO I JUST HOPE THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT WHEN WE VOTE AND VOTE FOR ANNEXATION, BUT NOT MULTI FAMILY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM IS IT TRULY MINCHEY? OKAY? OKAY? LORI ANN CROW. GOOD EVENING. YOUR FULL ALERT AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS LAURIE ANN CROW. AND MY ADDRESS IS 46 01 DORCHESTER DRIVE IN THE COMMUNITY OF WILLOW WOOD. I'M HERE TO VOICE OUR OPPOSITION IN THE PROPOSED MULTI FAMILY. IN SAID CASE NUMBER. MY HUSBAND AND I SOLD OUR PLANO HOMES OF OVER 30 YEARS TO COLLECTIVELY. IN PLANO AND MOVED INTO OUR NEW WILLOW WOOD HOME. THREE YEARS AGO LAST MONTH. TWO OF THE DECIDING FACTORS. TO BUILD OUR FOREVER HOME HERE WAS FOR THE PEACEFUL, QUIET AND BEAUTIFUL NATURE. THAT SURROUNDS THE COMMUNITY AND THE LOWER CRIME RATE FOR A CITY OF THIS SIZE.MCKINNEY REALIZED A 50% DECREASE IN CRIME, EVEN WHILE 43,000 PLUS RESIDENTS MOVED HERE. THAT IS AN HONORABLE. AND PERHAPS STATISTIC REPORTED AND COMMUNITY IMPACT PUBLICATION ON AUGUST 7TH 2019.
I WORKED A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS FOR A BUILDER IN WILLOW WOOD. THE FEEDBACK FROM VISITORS AND MY CLIENTS WAS ALWAYS THE SAME. AND THAT ITS NATURE INSECURITY HAD BROUGHT THEM THERE. DURING MY MANY YEARS OF HAVING WORKED IN RESIDENTIAL CLASS A AND B LEVEL PROPERTY MANAGEMENT. I EXPERIENCED FIRSTHAND THE HIGHER LEVELS OF CRIME THAT HAPPENED IN MY OWN COMMUNITIES. THROUGH SUBPOENAS. PENSION ARREST WARRANTS PROCESS ON MY OWN PROPERTIES. I WAS MADE AWARE OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. EXCUSE ME. LISTENERS. THEY'RE NOT. I WAS MADE AWARE OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
BY CRIMINALS WHO LIVED THERE. MOST TIMES. THESE MEN AND WOMEN WERE NOT LISTED ON AN APPLICATION AND HAD NOT BEEN AUTHORIZED TO LEGALLY LIVE THERE. AND CONVICTED FELONS WERE AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFIED FOR RESIDENCY IN COMMUNITIES WHICH I WORKED. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. I HAVE TO. I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT I HAVE TO BE FAIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. MONICA SPALDING.
GOOD EVENING. MY I'M GONNA JUST GO BY SCRIPT THIS TIME, BECAUSE LAST TIME I HAD NO IDEA WHAT TO SAY. I HAD IT UNTIL I GOT UP HERE. SO MY NAME IS MONICA SPALDING AND I RESIDE AT 14, 29 COUNTY ROAD. 278 AND MELISSA. WHICH WE HAVE RESIDED AT FOR OVER A DECADE AFTER MY HUSBAND RETIRED FROM THE UNITED STATES MARINE COURSE AFTER 23 YEARS OF SERVICE FOR THIS COUNTRY. I'M HERE TO VOICE. MY OPPOSITION TO THE ZONING CASE FOR THAT IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. FIRST AND FOREMOST, PLEASE BE AMAZED, MADE AWARE THAT I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THE ANNEXATION AND CAN UNDERSTAND THE VALUE THAT ANNEXATION OF THE PROPERTY BRINGS TO MCKINNEY. WHAT I AM OPPOSED TO IS THE MULTI FAMILY ZONING REQUEST THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED WITH ANNEXATION. MY PROPERTY OFFENSE LINE BORDERS, THE MAJORITY OF THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. I HAVE BEEN AN ACTIVE BREEDER FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS AND IN THE REGISTER FOR THE PAINTED DESERT CHEAP SOCIETY. THIS TEXAS SHAPED BRAID IS FULLY SUPPORTED BY SIT MILITAR SID MILLER AGRICULTURAL COMMISSION FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS AS AN AMBASSADOR OF THE BREED. MY LIVELIHOOD AND LIVESTOCK WILL GREATLY BE HINDERED AND DEVASTATED BY THE REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY TO MULTI FAMILY. OVER THE LAST MONTH THAT COUNCILORS WERE MADE AWARE OF THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES, OPPOSITION TO THE RE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY AND MORE RECENTLY SAT DISSATISFACTION WITH IN AND OUT AND TRIANGLE ENGINEERING FOR THEIR LACK OF COMPASSION AND EMPATHY. AS OUR COMMUNITY WORKS TO FIND A HAPPY MEDIUM FOR THE PROPERTY THAT BORDERS MY FENCE LINE. I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE ANNEXATION AND BRINGING QUALITY DEVELOPMENT TO MCKINNEY. I FEEL
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THAT THIS PROPERTY SHOULD NOT BE REZONED FROM MULTI FAMILY BUT REMAIN ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL CENTER PLACEMENT WITHIN AN ESTABLISHED COMMUNITY DISTRICT. THE EUROPE ARE NUMEROUS OTHER SITES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT THAT WOULD SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE MULTI FAMILY HOUSING WHERE IT WOULD NOT IMPACT MY LIVELIHOOD, FAMILY, COMMUNITY AND LIFESTYLE.PLEASE EXCLUDE THE MULTI FAMILY THREE ZONING PROPOSAL. IF YOU APPROVE ANNEXATION OF THIS PROPERTY, I LOVE THIS COMMUNITY AND COMMITTED TO STAYING HERE WHILE WORKING WITH THE INTENTION TO ENSURE THAT THE SITE IS DEVELOPED TO ITS FULL POTENTIAL FOR THE BEST OF ALL PARTIES, INCLUDING IN AND OUT AND OUR COMMUNITY. SINCERELY HOPE THAT YOU TAKE THE COMMUNITY'S OPPOSITION TO HEART AND VOTE TO REMOVE MULTI FAMILY THREE HOUSING WITH ITS VARIANCES FROM THE PROPOSAL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THAT WENT A LOT BETTER THAN TRYING TO WIN IT. FLOYD SPALDING. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS FOOD. SPALDING AND I LIVE AT 14 29 COUNTY ROAD, 278. MY WIFE AND MY SON, COLIN. WE'VE LIVED HERE FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLANT DIAGRAM, WHERE THE ONE THAT'S REALLY ODDLY SHAPED THAT HAS A LOT OF ANIMALS ON IT. AS YOU HEARD ABOUT I WON'T REHASH ALL THE NEGATIVES THAT WE'VE COVERED IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT RECENT MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH THE WITH THE NEW OUT INVESTMENTS IN TRIANGLE ENGINEERING. PRIOR TO THIS MEETING, A GROUP OF LOCAL RESIDENTS WHOSE PROPERTIES DIRECTLY ABOUT THE 40 ACRE PARCEL. BASICALLY GOT TOGETHER AND BECAME TRYING TO GET TO GET SOME COMMON GROUND WITHIN YOU OUT. WE AGREE THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HIGHWAY FIVE AT THE NORTH EDGES OF PROPERTY MAKES SENSE. WE AGREED WE'D BE HAPPY WITH SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, MUCH LIKE THE RECENT DEVELOPMENT AT WILLOW WOOD, WHICH IS REALLY TURNED OUT GREAT. AS A BUFFER OR TRANSITION BETWEEN OUR HOMES AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. WHEN WE PROPOSE THIS TO YOU OUT INVESTMENTS IN TRANQUIL ENGINEERING. STATED. THE ONLY WAY THIS PROPERTY CAN BE MADE PROFITABLE IS BY DEVELOPING HIGH DENSITY, MULTI FAMILY THREE STORY APARTMENTS, BEGINNING 45 FT FROM OUR PROPERTY LINE. UM I'M NOT CONVINCED THIS IS THE ONLY OPTION. THERE ARE LOTS OF EXAMPLES OF PARCELS OF SIMILAR SIZE THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OR IN OTHER WAYS. UM IF THIS WERE THE ONLY OPTION, WE WOULD EVEN BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. THERE'LL BE SO MANY APARTMENT COMPLEXES, RIGHT? UM. MY FAMILY AND OTHERS ARE OPEN TO COMPROMISE AND NEGOTIATION. BUT AT THIS TIME IN NEW AD INVESTMENTS HAS NOT BEEN WE'D LOVE TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION WITH A PLAN THAT IS A WIN WIN FOR BOTH EXISTING RESIDENTS AND INVESTORS. BUT AT THE CURRENT TIME, THE CURRENT PROPOSAL ONLY FAVORS THE INVESTORS. POLICE. CONSIDER THIS IN PLACING YOUR VOTE. THAT THE LIVES WOULD BE NEGATIVELY AFFECTED BY APPROVAL . INSTEAD LET'S REVISIT WITH A NEW PLAN A DIFFERENT PLAN FOR ANNEXATION AND REZONING. THAT'S A WIN FOR EVERYONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. PRAVEEN BEER. OR VILLA. HAVE A RIGHT FIRST OR SECOND TIME OR NEITHER. THAT'S A PUBLIC GOOD EVENING COUNCIL AND MAYOR. MY NAME IS PRAVEEN VILLA 6514, NOT MCDONALD'S STATE. ONE OF THE APPLICANTS. JUST I WANT AFTER I HEAR SOME QUESTIONS. I WANTED TO SPEAK. UM, THAT'S GONNA COME HERE. UM GEE. SAY YOU'RE ONE ENGINEERS. SORRY, SIR . DID YOU SAY YOU WERE ONE OF THE APPLICANTS? YES. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. EDUCATION. I'M A CIVIL ENGINEER. AND I DO REAL ESTATE. I WANT A BROKERAGE FIRM.
IDEALISTIC BROKERAGE FORM AND THEY DO DEVELOPMENT REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT. AH! SO ALL I VE VIDEO ALL CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS DEFINITELY. THE WE? WM CONSIDERATION OF SOME OF THE CONSIDERING CONSENTS. WE ALL KNOW CHANGES IN AVAILABLE RIGHT ? AT ONE POINT, WE ALL SHOULD GET OUT FOR THAT. WE HAVE SEEN SO MUCH OF GROWTH IN THIS AREA. I MOVED TO FISCAL ABOUT THE 18 YEARS BACK. WHEN? WHEN I MOVED TO FRISCO. EVERYTHING WAS FLAT. ALL THAT ROADS. THERE ARE 20 ACRES NOW, UM, WE HAVE RESIDENCES. BUT NOW WE SEE EVERYTHING IS VERTICAL LIKE THERE IS NO NO OPEN AREA. WE LOOK AT THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THIS LAND, A CIVIL ENGINEER HAVE BEEN DOING LIKE PROJECTS SINCE I WAS LIKE IT, 20 MY AGE WAS 20. SO, LOOK AT THIS CHARACTERISTIC
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OF THIS LAND. IT IS PERFECT. MY LOOK AT THE PERFECTLY SUITABLE FOR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S WHEN WE SAW WE WANTED TO BUY AND WE HAD A VISION. WHEN WE PURCHASE THAT WE HAVE STILL WE HAVE THAT VISION. WE WANT TO BRING A GREAT PRODUCT. AND TO ANSWER THE QUESTION WHY WE WANT WE DON'T WANT TO NEXT. WE CAN GO WE CAN DEVELOP AS A COUNTY. WE WANT TO BE PART OF GREAT MECHANISM. WHEN I MEAN LIKE A MILLION DOLLARS SUIT. I WANT TO BE IN A PROPER, UH SURROUNDINGS , SO THAT'S WHEN LIKE WHEN, AFTER WE PURCHASED, WE GOT OFFERS. FOR SOME, SOME OFFICE CAME UP LIKE THEY WANTED TO PUT THEM NOW. MOBILE HOME PARK REPORT LIKE THAT WE COME. WE REJECTED THOSE OFFERS SAYING, OKAY, THIS LAND IS NOT MEANT FOR THAT. THIS IS THE THERE IS LIKE A CLASS HERE, CLASS B APARTMENT CLASS, AND WE'RE GOOD COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. WE CAN PUT THAT WE CAN BRING A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THERE LIKE NORTH SEA STORES THAT WILL COME WITH THE DEVELOPMENT. DEFINITELY. SO I NEED TO INTERRUPT YOU FROM IT. BECAUSE IF YOU'RE SPEAKING IN PUBLIC COMMENTS, I'VE GOT TO HOLD TO THE SAME CRITERIA, BUT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. IS THE APPLICANT? YES MY BEST MY POINT, BUT I'M SAYING SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT I NEED TO CONTINUE PUBLIC COMMENTS FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO A LIGHT ALLOW YOU TO COME BACK. IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKED A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS, I'M SURE BY COUNSEL UM YEP, DEFINITELY. I WOULD LET, UH, WE HAVE AN OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. ABSOLUTE. CAN LIVING. I'D LIKE TO SHOW NO OTHER. NOBODY ELSE REGISTERED TO SPEAK. BUT IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT HAS SHOWN UP TO SPEAK ON THIS SUBJECT THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? THANK YOU. TIME, CHARLES MARTIN. I BELIEVE AT 15 75 COUNTY ROAD, 339 LIVED THERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS. KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE WANTING TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR MCKINNEY. I THINK YOU HAVE MCKINNEY'S BEST INTEREST IN MIND. THE ONLY PEOPLE OF FOR THIS DO NOT LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY OR IN MCKINNEY. AND YOU'RE MISSING THE BIGGER PICTURE. BECAUSE YOU CANNOT. FORCIBLY ANNEX ANYMORE. YOU NEED COMMUNITY SUPPORT. IN THE COMMUNITY SUPPORTS THE ANNEXATION. THE COMMUNITY ACTUALLY SUPPORTS BEING ANNEXED THEMSELVES IF MCKINNEY CAN PROVIDE THEM TO SERVICES CAN YOU PROVIDE TO COMMUNITY SERVICES? IF YOU CAN. YOU HAVE A MUCH BIGGER OPPORTUNITY THAN A SMALL TRACK THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW. AND YOU KNOW, FOR A FACT THIS MEANS NOTHING. TO THE HOLE SIZE OF MCKINNEY. DON'T YOU? THIS IS NOTHING. LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE. AND VOTE FOR THE ANNEXATION. OF THE COMMUNITY AROUND IT. THANK YOU. SOMEBODY ELSE? YES, MA'AM. I'M JUST GOING TO WING IT. ANDY BROWN, 12 28 MILLER ROAD. ONE MILE FROM THIS SITE. UM, IT WAS IN MCKINNEY'S OWN. LITTLE COMMUNITY NEWSPAPER WITHIN THE LAST WEEK OR TWO ANNOUNCING HEE BE COMING IN JUST SOUTH OF BUCKY'S, WHICH IS A BIG , APPROXIMATELY TWO MILES NORTH ON HIGHWAY 75. THIS DOESN'T IMPACT MCKINNEY AND ANYWAY. BUTS REQUIRED MELISSA TO APPROVE. FOUR STORY APARTMENT 800 UNITS FOR HCB TO COME IN SO WITH THE B AND THE OTHER LITTLE SHOPS THAT WOULD BE IN THAT SHOPPING CENTER. AND, OF COURSE, THE ADDITIONAL 800 UNITS OR 400 UNITS. WHATEVER IT IS, THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH. TO SUPPORT THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE WITHOUT THE ADDITIONAL MULTI FAMILY HOME. JUST. I THINK , ANYWAY, BUT SOMETHING WORTH LOOKING INTO. LIKE UM, MR PHILLIPS HEAD SAID. WHY NOT WAIT TWO YEARS AND THEN APPLY FOR THE RE ZONING PERMIT. LET'S SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS. TWO MILES NORTH. IT MAY VERY WELL BE JUST ENOUGH TO SUPPORT COMMERCIAL ONLY IN THIS PARTICULAR SITE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY?[01:45:19]
HELLO COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ROMMEL IN PARENTHESES. I'M AT 17 10 PRIVATE ROAD, 5042 AND MELISSA.I AM ALSO A CALIFORNIA GIRL. MY SON ALSO GOES TO WILLOW WOOD. I JUST DIDN'T PLAN ON SPEAKING TONIGHT, BUT I WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING IN REGARDS TO THE VISION THAT THE APPLICANTS HAVE MENTIONED. UM HE TALKS ABOUT A VISION OF HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS IN A RURAL AREA WHERE YOU HAVE LONGHORNS LONGHORN COWS RIGHT ACROSS THE RIGHT ACROSS THE CORNER. HOW DO YOU ENVISION HIGH DENSITY HOUSING? IN AN AREA WHERE YOU HAVE POTHOLES. I HAVE A BRAND NEW CAR AND MY SUSPENSIONS ALREADY MESSED UP BECAUSE OF THE POTHOLES THAT ARE ON THE ROAD. HOW DO YOU ENVISION HI IDENTITY APARTMENTS WHEN EVERYTHING AROUND THE AREA IS EITHER A TIRE SHOP. I USED CAR LOT OR STORAGE. HOW DOES THE COMMUNITY HOW WILL THE KIDS AS YOU MENTIONED? HOW WILL THEY PLAY? THERE'S NOWHERE TO WALK. WE CAN'T EVEN WALK OUR KIDS AT SCHOOL. ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS ALMOST GOT RAN OVER. ON THEIR BIKE GOING TO SCHOOL BECAUSE OF ALL THE INCREASED TRAFFIC ON FANNIN ROAD DUE TO WILLOW WOOD. AND THEN LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY WE HAVE FIVE ACRES. WE HAVE ROOSTERS. WE HAVE GOATS. OUR NEIGHBORS STOOD ON THEIR PROPERTY. THIS IS COUNTRY LIVING. AND HOW CAN YOU ENVISION HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS WHEN YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY JUST ALL COUNTRIES? AND WHAT DOES THAT DO TO US? WHAT DOES THAT DO TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? NATURE IN RURAL AREAS JUST REALLY QUESTIONED THE VISION WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE ROADS WHEN YOU DRIVE ON THEM. ALL YOU SEE IS COUNTRY AND WHERE DOES A HIGH DENSITY APARTMENT BEEN INTO THAT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. RIGHT, NOT SEEING ANY OTHER YES, MA'AM.
RIGHT, OKAY. IS THERE AFTER THESE TWO? IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE? THAT IS GOOD REQUEST.
THAT'S THIRD. ALRIGHT, SO GENERALLY, OF COURSE YOU REQUIRED TO FILL OUT A CARD PRIOR TO BUT I WILL ALLOW THREE THAT HAVE JUST IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES AND THEN WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS KIMBERLY MARTEN. I LIVE ON 15 75 KENNY WROTE 3 39, MELISSA. I STAND AGAINST THE REZONING OF THE MULTI FAMILY. COMPLEX, BUT I. I SUPPORT THE ZONING ZONING STATION STATION. UM. BUT THE WAY I SEE IT IS FOR THE KIDS WITH ALL THIS WITH THEG TO BE A TON OF KIDS THAT COME IN. WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO? WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO? WHAT ABOUT THEIR EDUCATION WITH WILLOW WOOD SCHOOL BEING BRIMMING ALREADY BEING NEW. HOW OLD THEY GET TO SCHOOL HELD. THEY GET THEIR EDUCATION. THE TEACHERS ARE ALREADY OVERLOADED.
THAT'S MY QUESTIONS. BECAUSE EDUCATION IS IMPORTANT FOR KIDS. THEIR SAFETY IS IMPORTANT AND THE AREA IS NOT SAFE. AND IF THEY WANT TO GO TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO PLAY WITH THEIR FRIENDS TO GO TO THE SCHOOL. HOO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT BEING RUN OVER WITHOUT THE WITHOUT NOT BEING SAFE. IS DANGEROUS. THERE'S NOTHING FOR THEM TO DO. THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THEM TO PLAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THERE IS TWO MORE. THERE IS A GENTLEMAN. ANOTHER WOMAN, MA'AM.
I'M ELLEN GRACE IT I LIVE IT 17 33 PRIVATE ROAD. 50 42 MELISSA ADDRESS. I THINK EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SAID PROBABLY THAT COULD BE SAID. AH! BUT I DO WANT THESE. MAN THESE INVESTORS TO KNOW THAT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYONE IN OUR GROUP THAT DOESN'T WANT THEM TO MAKE A PROFIT IN THEIR BUSINESS. WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. BUT WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH WHAT'S BEING DONE THERE. FOR YEARS TO COME. AND I THINK YOU ALL YOU KNOW WOULD WANT IT TO BE. IT'S A IT'S A PLEASANT AREA , AND I THINK YOU ALL IF YOU COULD CHOOSE YOU WOULD PREFER TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. BUT WE KNOW THERE'S LOTS OF DEMAND NOW FOR HOUSING AND BUSINESS AND ALL THAT. YOU KNOW, THE FIRST TIME I CAME TO MELISSA TO MCKINNEY WAS OVER 25 YEARS AGO, MY AGGIE SON'S BEST FRIEND WAS MARRYING
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HIM MCKINNEY GIRL RIGHT OVER HERE IN THE OLD METHODIST CHURCH. AND I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE CHARMING TOWN THAT WE HAVE HERE AND SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. I THINK FOR THE CITIZENS IN OUR COMMUNITIES TO BE ABLE. TO HAVE THE KIND OF LIFESTYLE THAT THEY PAID FOR WITH THEIR LAND OR WHATEVER. AND SO SURELY THERE IS SOME COMPROMISE. THAT COULD COME ABOUT BETWEEN OUR GROUP AND THEIR GROUP, AND THEY STILL MAKE A PROFIT. MAYBE NOT AS MUCH AS THEY'D HOPED. BUT SURELY THERE'S A COMPROMISE AND SO I WOULD RECOMMEND AT THE ZONING NOT BE APPROVED AND THAT YOU ENCOURAGE THE GROUPS TO GET TOGETHER. COME TO THE TABLE AND BE SERIOUS ABOUT WHAT COULD BE WORKED OUT AND SATISFACTORY FOR BOTH GROUPS. THAT'S MY COMMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THERE WAS GENTLEMEN. INCOME PREPARED TO SPEAK. APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. MY NAME IS JIM BERNARD. I LIVE AT 4 50 FREEDOM TRAIL MELISSA, WHICH IS IN THE JT. IT'S LESS THAN A MILE FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT. LONGTIME MCKINNEY RESIDENT. I LIVED IN CRAIG RANCH FOR SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE I BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY. BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY BUILDING FAMILY RANCH. I GOT THREE HOUSES, MY SON, MY DAUGHTER AND MYSELF. MY GRANDKIDS, AND WE DID IT BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY AREA. WE LOOKED AROUND US. IT WAS ALL RANCHES, FARMS. WIDE OPEN SPACES AND TO HAVE THIS HIGH DENSITY. APARTMENT. THERE IS JUST NOT FITTING WITH THE COMMUNITY. AH I REALLY FEEL BAD FOR THOSE PEOPLE HAVE READ UP ADJACENT TO IT. I LIVE A MILE AWAY, AT LEAST, BUT THERE'S GONNA BE OTHERS THAT ARE GOING TO TRY AND COME IN AND DO IT. SO I FIGURED I'D BETTER SPEAK NOW. AH BECAUSE THERE WILL BE MORE TRYING TO COME IN THAT AREA FOR A LOT ONE IN IT'S JUST THE WAY IT WORKS. I'M A BUILDER. I'VE BEEN BUILDING APARTMENTS MOST OF MY LIFE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS AROUND THEM. UH, I'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENED TO CRAIG RANCH. BEEN LIVING THERE.THERE'S APARTMENTS GOING UP EVERYWHERE THERE. IT JUST DOESN'T FIT IN THIS COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. RIGHT AS. THEIR MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HERO MOVED AGAIN. WAS CAST YOUR VOTE. THIS IS ONLY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. NOBODY GET NERVOUS. CAST YOUR VOTES.
OKAY? I'M GONNA MAKE A FEW STATEMENTS AND THEN OPEN UP THE BIAS FOR DISCUSSION. UM BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. EVERYBODY. UNDERSTANDS KIND OF THE. DECISIONS WERE MAKING.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT WILDLIFE AND I CERTAINLY THOROUGHLY APPRECIATE THE DESIRE TO MAINTAIN WILDLIFE. AND I ACTUALLY APPRECIATE THE VOCALIZING OF THAT CONSIDERATION. BUT REMEMBER, THAT'S GOING TO BE SET ASIDE IN THIS DECISION MAKING PROCESS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THE VOTE TONIGHT IS IN ISN'T WHETHER WE WILL PRESERVE WILDLIFE IN THIS PIECE OF LAND OR NOT. IT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED ULTIMATELY, UM, SO AS MUCH AS I APPRECIATE THAT.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WILL BE A FACTOR. OTHER THINGS WILL. THAT WAS NOT A FACTOR. THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT TRAFFIC NOT TO GET INTO A HUGE TRAFFIC DISCUSSION. BUT AGAIN, I JUST SO WE'RE DEALING IN SOME IN IN SOME FACTUAL THINGS YOU KNOW, THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION OF ENGINEERS IDENTIFIES NOW I THINK THE LATEST STUDY IN 2021 IS THAT 20210.44 UNITS OF TRAFFICKING PEAK HOUR PER UNIT OF MID RISE APARTMENTS IS WHAT EXPECTED TRAFFIC IS ON COMMERCIAL. THAT, OF COURSE, VARIES GREATLY, DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF COMMERCIAL IF IT'S FAST FOOD.
IT'S 20 TIMES THAT IF IT'S PER 1000 FT IF IT'S IF IT'S UH GROCERY STORE. IT'S FOUR OR FIVE TIMES THAT. SO YOU KNOW THE TRAFFIC IS I THINK TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE ENHANCED, OBVIOUSLY INCREASED, NO MATTER WHAT IT'S DEVELOPED THERE. ONE OF THE BENEFITS, OF COURSE, WHEN PROPERTY IS IN A CITY AGAIN, I'M JUST STATING FACTUAL STUFF RIGHT NOW NOT NOT ADVOCATING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. IF IT'S IN THE CITY THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO. THEY HAVE TO PRESENT THEIR THEIR SITE PLAN. THERE ARE ENGINEERS ARE TRAFFIC. ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT ARE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY HAVE A BIG SAY IN THAT THAT WE DON'T APPROVE SOMETHING, IF THE TRAFFIC IF THE STREETS OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE DOESN'T SUPPORT IT. MY SPEAKING CORRECTLY ON THESE ISSUES GARY AND VERSUS
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WHEN IT'S NOT IN THE CITY. WE DON'T HAVE THAT SAME THAT SAME GOVERNANCE. SO SOME OF THE THINGS YOU'RE SAYING AGAIN. ON ADVOCATING THIS MOMENT, JUST SPEAKING. SOME OF THE THINGS YOU'RE SAYING ARE ACTUALLY WHY SOME OF US MIGHT BE WANTED TO REALLY LOOK AT ANNEXING AND ZONING BECAUSE. BECAUSE THE THINGS YOU'RE SAYING WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT AND WE KNOW THAT ANNEX IS THE ONLY WAY WE HAVE A SAY IN IT. SO NO, THAT THAT THAT THERE'S A THERE'S BENEFIT. FOR THE CITY WHEN THE CITY HAS A PROPERTY, AN ANNEX PROPERTY. WE ACTUALLY MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS ARE CAN BE ACCOMMODATED. TRAFFIC CAN BE ACCOMMODATED. ALL OF ALL OF THAT. UM. WITH REGARD TO THE SCHOOLS. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO MELISSA'S SCHOOL SYSTEM. I KNOW THAT THEY'RE BUILDING ANOTHER SCHOOL WILL BE OPEN IN TWO YEARS AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, UM THAT WILL BE THEY ARE BUSTING AT THE SEAMS TODAY. THAT'S A DIFFERENT SITUATION IN TWO YEARS. JUST AS A POINT OF FACT. WHAT ELSE? CAN WE, JENNIFER, WOULD YOU COME OUT AND WE WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE VARIANCES THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED? SO THERE IS THE ZONING THERE IS THERE IS ANNEXATION AND THEIR ZONING AND THEN WITH THE ZONING VARIANCES THERE. WHAT THE ZONING THEY'RE ACTUALLY OUTLINING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. AT THIS POINT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT VARIANCES WERE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT ESTABLISHING THE USE OF DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THAT. PROPERTY OKAY, SO WE ARE A SPECIFIC QUESTION ON I HEARD I HEARD COMMENTS MADE ABOUT LESS SETBACKS. SO, SO THAT'S IT. WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH THAT. AT THIS POINT. WE ARE NOT DEALING WITH THAT. AND IN FACT, IN THE ZONING, THEY ARE LOOKING TO DO SOME MODEST INCREASES ON SETBACKS ADJACENT TO PUBLIC STREETS, SO WE'RE NOT SAYING ANYTHING THAT'S REDUCED IN TERMS OF SETBACKS OR LANDSCAPE BUFFERS. OR LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS. UM. SO ONE OF THE THINGS I'M STRUGGLING WITHIN THIS LAST COMMENT I'LL MAKE BEFORE OPENING UP THE DIOCESE. WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH IS I'MD GIVEN A DIFFERENT REASON TO THINK ABOUT THIS. WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT IT OR ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S GOVERNING. MY THOUGHTS RIGHT NOW IS I'M SORRY . I WANT TO BACK UP FIRST A STATEMENT MADE ABOUT THE SEWER THAT THAT THEY COULD ONLY BUILD 150 UNITS IF THEY'RE NOT ANNEXED. BECAUSE OF AND I DON'T NOT. I DID NOT UNDERSTAND THAT TO BE THE CASE. QUITE FRANKLY, I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT COMMENT, EITHER. I DON'T KNOW IF GARY'S OKAY? MISSIONER HELL AND COUNTY LEVEL OF SERVICES. I'VE GOT THE EMAIL. I CAN AFFORD IT. YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY. HOW HE CAN MAKE THAT COMMENT BECAUSE BECAUSE HE WOULD BE DEVELOPER WOULD BE REQUIRED UNDER ANNEXATION. HE, OF COURSE HAVE TO BRING IT IN. BUT YOU'D ALSO HAVE TO BRINGING THAT SAME SORT OF ON NXT, MY MISSING SOMETHING VARIANTS FOR THE PROVISION OF SEWER THAT'S CORRECT, AND THERE THAT'S NOT BEING SOUGHT. CORRECT NOT AT THIS TIME THEY COULD DO A ON SITE TREATMENT PLANT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT COST WOULD BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 800 A MILLION IN MY VERY QUICK DUE DILIGENCE OVER THE LAST WEEK. OF COURSE. WHAT DO WE HAVEN'T HAD AN IDEA OF WHAT IT COST TO BRING THE SEWER AND MORE THAN A MILLION. SO SO RIGHT NOW I'M HERE'S GUYS. HERE'S ONE THING I'M REALLY STRUGGLING WITH IS THAT YOU COULD THEY COULD DO A THEY COULD BUILD WHAT THEY WANT TO BUILD RIGHT NOW. THEY COULD DO A PACKAGE PLANT. THEY COULD DO IT ON SITE. THEY DON'T ACTUALLY NEED THE EIGHT ACRES IF THEY DO THAT, UM AND THEY COULD DO THAT WITH FOR LESS MONEY THAN BRINGING IN THE SEWER, IF WHICH THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO IF WE AN EXTENT THAT'S ONE THING THAT'S THAT'S TARGET AT ME THAT THEY I WORRY ABOUT THAT. UM TO, OF COURSE, ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT WE WOULD HAVE AT THIS POINT. NO VARIANCE HAS BEEN SOUGHT FOR SETBACKS ON AND ON THE TRAFFIC STUDIES. THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THEY'D HAVE TO DO, THE EASEMENT SAID, HAVE TO GIVE ALL OF THESE THINGS. THAT HAPPENED IF THEY WERE. THEY WERE AN EXTENT AND COMING THROUGH THE CITY. UM. COMMENT WAS MADE. WELL, ANNEX THEM AND DON'T ZONE. WELL, OF COURSE. I BELIEVE WHAT I HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT. UM CERTAINLY I KNOW WHAT I WOULD DO IN THAT SCENARIO IS WHY WOULD I DO THAT? WHY WOULD I ANNEX IF I'M NOT GONNA HAVE THE ZONING BECAUSE AGAIN, I COULD WALK OUT OF THIS ROOM AND SAY HECK, WITH THE SEWER. I'LL DO A ON SITE PACKAGE PLANT WITH ALL THE ALL[02:00:01]
THE STANDARDS THAT THE CITY HAS NO PROPERTY TAX ON AND ON AND ON, AND I'LL MAKE THAT DECISION TO DO THAT. SO I WORRY ABOUT THAT. NOW IT'S POKER. ARE THEY GOING TO DO THAT? I DON'T KNOW.I WISH I HAD A CRYSTAL BALL BECAUSE THEN I WOULD TELL YOU ALL WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO. AND THEN I'D VOTE ACCORDINGLY. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GONNA DO THAT, OR NOT. I KNOW THAT WHEN WE DIDN'T WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS IN ANNEX AND MATCH THE MANSIONS OF PROSPER, WHICH ARE IN MCKINNEY. UM, I SURE WISH I HAD A CRYSTAL BALL, THEN. IS NOW WHAT'S THERE IS THERE IS SOMETHING THAT CERTAINLY ASKED TO SPEAK FOR ME. I HATE THAT IT'S THERE. AND THERE'S 1000 UNITS AND I HATE THAT IS RIGHT THERE ON THE EDGE OF OUR INCORPORATED AREA AND WILL BE THERE FOR ARGUABLY ETERNITY HATE IT, AND I ASSURE YOU EVERYONE AROUND IT. IF THEY COULD GO BACK IN TIME AND GET THE DELOREAN, THEY WOULD GO BACK IN TIME AND BE PUSHING, PUSHING FOR ANNEXATION BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T WANT THOSE 1000 UNITS ON SEPTIC BUILT RIGHT THERE. THEY WOULD WANT TO BUILD WITH STANDARDS, BUT THEY CAN'T OR THE PLACE OVER IN WEST RIDGE WHEN THEY FOUGHT AGAINST THAT. WE'RE IN ANNEX AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO A MULTI FAMILY AND NOW THEY HAVE A THREE OR FOUR STORY ORANGE STORAGE BUILDING AND SOME OTHER ISSUES, AND THEY COME BACK NOW WHERE THEY WISH THEY HAD THAT DELOREAN AGAIN FROM BACK TO THE FUTURE, AND THEY GO BACK AND SAY NO, PLEASE. ANNEX MAKEUP, YOU KNOW, SO I WORRY ABOUT THOSE THINGS. JENNIFER SORRY, I JUST SAY SOMETHING INCORRECT. JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME. I'LL STOP QUESTIONS FROM OTHERS FOR STAFF FIRST. I DO, UM. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD, CHARLIE. I WAS LOOKING AT THE LEGISLATIVE HISTORY OF THIS , AND IT SAID THAT THE SERVICE PLAN HAS REQUIRED BY CHAPTER 43 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE FOR ANNEXATION. WAS ATTACHED TO THE PROPOSED UM, ORDINANCE AND I DO NOT SEE A SERVICE PLAN ATTACHED SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU LOOK, SO THERE ARE TWO ORDINANCES AND YOUR PACKET. THE SECOND ONE IS THE ZONING. BUT THE FIRST ORDINANCE IN THERE IS GOING TO BE THE ANNEXATION ORDINANCE AND THE ATTACHED EXHIBITS FOR THAT ANNEXATION ORDINANCE WOULD HAVE THAT IN THERE. THANK YOU. I WAS LOOKING AT THE PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE. PRE. SHE ATE THAT.
IT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW. COULD I GET GARY TO COME BACK UP REAL QUICK? JUST HAVE A QUESTION. IF THIS WERE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY. THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME TO YOU. CAN TALK ABOUT RHODES, WHO ARE WATER. ESPECIALLY ROADS THAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY REQUEST THAT THEY DO A TRANSPORTATION STUDY.
THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY? WHAT. WHAT THINGS COULD THAT COULD COME OUT OF THE HEAD? WELL IT'S SIMILAR TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE OPERATION OF THE INTERSECTIONS ADJACENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND SEEING IF ANY IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO BE MADE BASED ON THE INTENSITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT. RIGHT WE HAVE TO BE REAL CAREFUL IN WHAT WE ASK FOR IF IT'S IN CITY LIMITS OR OUTSIDE SINGLE LIMITS ON THOSE TYPE OF REQUESTS, BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY REQUIRE A DEVELOPMENT TO PUT PUT IN WITH THEIR PROPORTIONATELY REQUIRED TO, SO THERE'S A THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF BAY OF PROPORTIONALITY, BUT WE HAVE AN IN DEPTH CONVERSATION WITH THE APPLICANTS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ACTUALLY IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO THEIR SITE. AND GENERALLY, MOST MOST DEVELOPERS WHEN WE WALKED THROUGH THE INFORMATION WITH THEM, WE COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON WHAT WHAT IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE MADE. SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANE ON HIGHWAY FIVE.
I MEAN, WE KNOW THEY'RE GOING AT LEAST HAVE TO BUILD 24 FT OF ROADWAY ADJACENT ON FANNIN ROAD . THEY'VE GOT THE ARTERIAL ALONG THE NORTH SIDE. THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO WORK WITH THEM TO TRY TO CONNECT TO HIGHWAY FIVE BECAUSE THEIR PROPERTY ISN'T QUITE THE INTERSECTION OF THAT ARTERIAL WITH HIGHWAY FIVE IS NOT ON THEIR PROPERTY, SO WE WOULD WANT TO PROBABLY WORK WITH HIM LIKE ON THAT SITUATION. AND THEN WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT IMPROVEMENTS AT THE INTERSECTION TO THE SOUTH OF THE COUNTY ROADS. OKAY? NOW, IF IT WAS NOT IN THE CITY, WE COULDN'T REQUIRE ANY OF THAT CORRECT REQUIRING ALL OF THAT AS WELL. YOU WOULD YEP, THEY STILL HAVE TO MEET OUR SUBDIVISION DESIGN STANDARDS AND PART OF OUR SUBDIVISION DESIGN STANDARDS, WHICH IS OUTSIDE OF ZONING WERE ALLOWED TO ASK THOSE SAME QUESTIONS AND PUT THAT AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THEM.
OKAY SO YOU WOULD ACTUALLY REQUIRE THEM TO PUT PUT THE ROADS IN THE OKAY. TO GO ONCE YOU IDENTIFY WHAT OR JENNIFER WHAT COULD WHAT? WHAT WHAT DO WE LOSE THE ABILITY TO GOVERN? IT'S A IT'S A PLANNING ISSUE ZONING AT THAT POINT LET ME JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS. JENNIFER. MORE USE
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BEING NUMBER ONE BUILDING. WE DO NOT HAVE BUILDING PERMIT AUTHORITY SETBACKS, LANDSCAPING PARKING BUILDING HEIGHTS. NONE OF THOSE WOULD BE REGULATED BY THE CITY. UM THAT WOULD BE PERFECT COUNTY, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE THEY HAVE ANY. SO THEY COULD BUILD FIVE STORY. WHERE WE WERE IN THE CITY WOULD SAY NO, THAT'S NOT SAYING THEY WOULD, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET ZONING IN PLACE. THEY HAVE TO GET DONE IN PLACE FOR THAT. IN THE ZONING THAT BEING REQUESTED IS MF THREE. THAT IS CORRECT, WHICH IS HOW MANY UNITS BREAKER WITH ZONING. IT'S M F THREE AND THEY'RE REQUESTING 25 UNITS TO THE ACRE AND THREE STORIES BUILDING HEIGHT. WHICH IS FAIRLY TYPICAL FOR WHAT WE SEE ON MULTI FAMILIES OWNING REQUESTS OR WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO. OTHER QUESTIONS. COMMENTS. WELL I'VE GOT COMMENTS. I'M SORRY. OKAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SORRY QUIET. I'M STILL NEW UP HERE. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS. YOU KNOW, WHEN I RAN MY ELECTION, ONE OF THE BIG POINTS I MADE WAS THAT I WANTED PROPERTY OWNERS.MUCH MORE, AND I WANTED TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF RENTERS WE HAVE NOW. IS THE GREAT CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER SAYS. MY OPINION CAN CHANGE WITH NEW FACTS. UM I GOT A CALL A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO FROM A WOMAN MOVED HERE FROM OREGON LAST AUGUST SIGNED A LEASE. ONE OF MCKINNEY'S NICER APARTMENT COMPLEX HAS BEEN HERE FOR PROBABLY 25 YEARS. UH, SHE SAID THAT SHE SIGNED RELEASE THROUGH 1600 A MONTH. IT'S GOING UP TO 2000 MONTH, YOU KNOW, 20% SOMETHING TO INCREASE THAT SHE'S GOT. SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. THE REASON RENTS GO UP IS BECAUSE, UM THE MAIN IT'S SUPPLY AND DEMAND, RIGHT. IT JUST IS SO THESE GENTLEMEN BACK HERE THEY WANT TO BUILD APARTMENTS BECAUSE IT'S THE MOST HIGHLY MONETIZING THING. THEY DON'T WANT TO COMPROMISE. I GET IT. I REALLY DO. YOU KNOW IF SINGLE FAMILY WERE THE THING THAT WAS MOST HIGHLY MONETIZING, THAT'D BE SOMETHING ELSE. BUT WHEN I FAST FORWARD IF I SIT THERE AND SAY WHAT YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I HAVE TWO DAUGHTERS THAT ARE HOMEOWNERS HERE WITH GRANDCHILDREN HERE. WHAT DO I WANT TO LEAVE IN 20 YEARS? I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THAT. I JUST DON'T. I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THAT. THE OTHER PART THAT COMES TO ME, AND THIS IS WHAT REALLY HELPS. TILTED FOR ME IS FELLAS.
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE THE RIGHT PARTNER FOR US. YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN UP HERE ENOUGH AND DEALT WITH ENOUGH DEVELOPERS AND PARTNERS THAT I CAN HAVE SOME FAITH AND IT FEELS THAT THE RELATIONSHIPS RIGHT? I DON'T GET THAT FROM YOU GUYS. I REALLY JUST DON'T I UNDERSTAND WHAT I THINK YOU'RE DOING, WHICH IS, UM , YOU KNOW YOU GOT THIS LAND, IT'S WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO MONETIZE IT. I GET THAT AND I THINK THIS IS THE BEST WAY IF YOU CAN GET IT. I'M JUST NOT GOING TO BE IN SUPPORT OF GIVING IT TO YOU. NOW TO BEFORE YOU SAY THAT BEFORE YOU SAY THAT YOU MAY MAKE SOME PEOPLE SAD HERE. I HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF YOU THE OTHER DAY. UM YOU GUYS KNOW SOME OF YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THIS LAND BEFORE. RIGHT? OKAY. DID THEY WANT APARTMENTS? KNOW WHAT THEY DID IS THEY TOOK THE HIGHEST BID FOR THEIR LAND. THEY SAID. OKAY WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M OUT OF HERE , RIGHT SO WE COULD BE UP HERE PLAYING WHACK A MOLE. WHEN IT'S THE NEXT ONE OF YOU WHO SELLS THIS AND THEN THIS IS COMING SO THE DREAM OF THE IDYLLIC LIFE UP . THERE IS KIND OF OVER. YOU KNOW, I LIVE ON WHAT WAS THE COMEGYS RANCH, AND PROBABLY SOME PEOPLE SAID THAT THE TREE IN MY YARD WAS WHAT MADE IT UNIQUE BY NATURE, AND WHEN THEY CHOPPED THAT TREE DOWN 30 YEARS AGO AND BUILT MY HOUSE. WELL YOU KNOW, THAT JUST DID IT. WE GOT IT COMING. WE ARE THE SECOND HIGHEST GROWING COUNTY IN THE NATION PER EMAIL FROM CHRIS HILL THE OTHER DAY. WE ARE GETTING DENSITY. WE'RE GETTING IT. SO WHAT I WANT TO CHALLENGE THE EXISTING PROPERTY OWNERS TO DO IS ACCEPT THIS. COMING TO PRE ANNEXATION AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY. I THINK THERE'S THREE ALTERNATIVES THAT CAN HAPPEN HERE. ONE WE APPROVED THIS ANNEXATION, ZONING, RIGHT? AND IF WE DO THAT, THEN WE WILL HAVE THE CITY STANDARDS OF THE MAYOR SAID, AND A BIG PART OF ME REALLY GETS THAT AS A FIDUCIARY FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. SECOND ONE IS UM THAT THEY BUILD IT ANYWAY. AND YOU GUYS, I DON'T THINK YOU'LL BE MAD AT ME BECAUSE YOU WANTED ME TO VOTE THIS WAY. AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE MAD AT MYSELF. REALLY, BECAUSE I'M GIVING YOU A CHANCE. THIRD OPTION IS THAT SOMETHING DIFFERENT HAPPENS HERE. BUT IT IS ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN HERE SAID. IT'S ALL ABOUT NEIGHBORHOODS. SO I THINK IT WAS YOU BACK THERE IN THE TAN JACKET. THANK YOU, BUT IT IS AND IT'S INCUMBENT ON Y'ALL, I THINK POSSIBLY DEPENDING ON HOW THIS NIGHT SHAKES OUT. TO BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT. I THINK I GOT
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CUT OFF MY TWO MINUTES. BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. THAT SORT OF HAD MY MICROPHONE OFF. BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE, SWALLOW HARD AND UNDERSTAND THAT YOU KNOW, THERE WON'T BE AS MANY GOATS AND ROOSTERS AND FOXES STUFF HERE IN 20 YEARS JUST WON'T BE SO I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST. I REALLY DO. I THIS IS A DIFFICULT THING, BUT LIKE I SAID, I DON'T THINK IT'S THE RIGHT BUILD. I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT PARTNER AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS WHAT I WANT HERE IN 20 YEARS. OTHER COMMENTS. SO I KIND OF SHARE MY OPINIONS ON THIS. I THINK THE WAY PATRICK PUT THIS, UM YOU KNOW, IN THE IDEA OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT UM, IT'S A MATTER OF PERSPECTIVE WITH THIS SITE. I THINK I MENTIONED THIS TO A FEW PEOPLE WHEN I TALK TO HIM ABOUT IT, BUT THIS. THIS PROJECT LOOKS A LOT DIFFERENT FROM THE OUTSIDE AND THEN FROM THE INSIDE OUT. THE INTERSECTION OF 1, 21 AND 75 WILL BE A LARGE, HIGHLY INTENSE UM, INTERSECTION THAT WILL DEMAND A LOT OF LIGHTING A LOT OF CREATE A LOT OF NOISE. IT WILL BE AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT PATRICK'S GETTING TO THE PROPERTIES AROUND THIS SITE, AND THIS SITE WILL DEVELOP. IN SOME HIGH INTENSITY USE. I THINK THE MAYOR MENTIONED , UM YOU KNOW THAT SOME OF THE OTHER USES WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WILL CREATE EVEN MORE INTENSITY ON ON KIND OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND LIVELIHOOD. THAT YOU ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT AND UM, CLINGING TO, AND SO IT'S THIS THIS DIFFERENCE OF PERSPECTIVE. WE ARE WE AS A CITY OR SITTING HERE LOOKING AT WHAT IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THIS INTERSECTION FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I DON'T THINK WE WOULD LOOK BACK AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE SOUTHERN INTERSECTION OF 75 1 21 AND SAY THAT NEEDS TO BE UM, YOU KNOW, DETERMINED BY, UM, A. YOU KNOW A LOW INTENSITY USE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS NEXT TO THEIR UM, YOU KNOW, THREE LEVEL. UM. TRAFFIC INTERCHANGED AND SO IT IT'S A MATTER OF PERSPECTIVE.AND UM, SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS SITE. I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST. FOR A MIX OF LAND THAT THAT ONE LOOKS AT THE DEPTHS OF COMMERCIAL THAT WILL COME ALONG HIGHWAY FIVE AND SAYS COMMERCIALS NOT GOING TO GO THAT DEEP. THAT LOOKS AT WHAT ARE THE BUFFERING OPTIONS THAT EXIST THERE AND IT COULD BE. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE SEE IN LAND USE BUFFERING IS STORAGE. OR SOME SORT OF MAYBE LOW INTENSITY OFFICE USE OR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT MULTI FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IS WHAT IS IN DEMAND RIGHT NOW, UM, AND IT IS A FAIRLY GOOD BUFFER BETWEEN A HIGH INTENSE C TWO COMMERCIAL ZONING AND WHAT IT WOULD BE UM, YOU KNOW, ALTERNATIVE LAND USES.
UM THERE IS THE COMPONENT THAT THE MAYOR TALKED ABOUT THAT THAT THAT THIS IS HARD WITH WHAT WE'RE LEFT WITH. WITH ANNEXATION IN THE NEGOTIATIONS WE HAVE TO MAKE AND WHAT? WHAT? WE'RE TRYING TO UM. ACCOMPLISHED AS A CITY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT AGAINST AS A CITY. AND ULTIMATELY WHAT WE WANT AND IN THE LONG TERM PLANS OF THIS CITY , AND SO BECAUSE I THINK IT IS A REASONABLE REQUEST FROM THE INSIDE OUT BECAUSE I THINK IT PROVIDES A LOT OF CONTROL TO THE CITY. UM, THAT THAT WE DON'T HAVE. IN A LOT OF AREAS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR UM, OUR CITY LIMITS. UH, BECAUSE IT'S RECOMMENDED BY OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF AND RECOMMENDED 70 AND P N Z. I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS LAND USE REQUESTS AND THE ANNEXATION. THAT'S WHERE I SLEEP. SO YOU KNOW, THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, FOR ALL OF YOU WHO CAME UP AND SPOKE TODAY? I THINK I HEARD A LOT OF YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT SCHOOLS AND ROAD EXPANSION AND YOU KNOW, AS A MAYOR ALREADY MENTIONED, THESE ARE THINGS THAT CAN BE PLANNED FOR YOU KNOW, SO FOR ME, I DON'T HAVE ANY DOUBT THAT MELISSA IS D WILL LOOK AT SOMETHING A PROJECT LIKE THIS AND THEN NOT PLAN FOR IT. AND THEN WE'VE ALREADY HEARD ABOUT TRAFFIC STUDIES AND HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT ROAD EXPANSION. UM THERE'S NO QUESTION IN MY MIND THAT HIGH DENSITY MULTI FAMILY WILL HELP BUSINESSES TO THRIVE MUCH MORE AS OPPOSED TO JUST LEAVING LARGE COMMERCIAL BUILDING BUILDINGS THERE ALONE.
THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT IT IS BENEFICIAL. ALSO THIS IS A PROPOSAL ABOUT ANNEXATION AND
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REZONING. WE CANNOT UNCOUPLE THOSE TWO TONIGHT. I KNOW YOU GUYS, MOST OF YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THIS PROJECT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE TWO OF THOSE TOGETHER FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. UM IF THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, FOR YOUR SAKES, SO YOU DON'T SEE A BUNCH OF, YOU KNOW, PARTIALLY LEASED BUILDINGS LIKE WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IN FAIRVIEW. I HOPE THERE'S SOME RESIDENTIAL THAT HELPS TO SUPPORT IT. I REALLY DO. MULTI FAMILY FOR ME. HONESTLY I DON'T LIKE TO SEE IT WHEN IT'S NOT COMING WITH SOME WORKFORCE, HOUSING OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SOME PORTION OF THAT RESERVED FOR OUR LABOR UNIONS. OUR LABOR FORCE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. UM AND LASTLY, I'LL SAY, YOU KNOW, IN PATRICK KIND OF TOUCHED ON THIS VERY WELL, BUT I REMEMBER BEING MY SENIOR YEAR IN COLLEGE ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO. IN LISTENING TO AN ECONOMIST. I WAS IN SCHOOL AT AUSTIN COLLEGE UP IN SHERMAN AND THAT, ECONOMISTS SAID, SOMETIMES SOMETIME IN THE IN THE FUTURE, EVERYTHING BETWEEN DALLAS AND SHERMAN WILL BE DEVELOPED. THAT ENTIRE 75 CORRIDOR. IT IS COMING JUST BECAUSE OF THE RAPID GROWTH TO THE NORTH TEXAS AREA, SO I FEEL FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN A PLACE THAT'S REALLY BEAUTIFUL. AND WE KNOW IT WON'T BE THE SAME 10 15 20 YEARS FROM NOW IT'S IMPOSSIBLE WITH THE KIND OF GROWTH THAT WE'RE SEEING IN NORTH TEXAS. THAT BEING SAID, I STILL LOOK AT EVERY PROJECT INDIVIDUALLY AND WHEN I LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, I DO NOT LOVE WHERE THE MULTI FAMILY IS ON THAT DEVELOPMENT PLAN. I DON'T LIKE THAT. IT'S JUST A BUDDING THOSE RESIDENTS TO THE SOUTH OF IT, AND BECAUSE OF THE PLACEMENT OF THAT I AM NOT IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT. UM CHARLIE. ERIC. UM THIS ONE'S ATTACHMENT FOR ME. UM I WON'T AGAIN. I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT. I DON'T THINK WE DON'T LISTEN, DON'T THINK WE DON'T DO OUR HOMEWORK. EVERYBODY UP HERE HAS LISTENED AND TALK TO ENGINEERS AND TALK TO STAFF AND I EVEN WENT TO THE PNC MEETING AND WATCH THAT SO WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS I GREW UP IN THE COUNTRY. AH! MOST OF MY LIFE. SO I UNDERSTAND HOW SPECIAL IT CAN BE. AND HOW SPECIAL YOUR HOMES AND YOUR PROPERTY IS. THE VOTE TODAY IS BASICALLY DO WE WANT TO HAVE CONTROL? OVER WHAT'S BEING BUILT. OR DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND LET THEM BUILD WHAT THEY WANT TO BUILD? AS WE'VE SEEN IT. NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THE MANSIONS, THERE'S ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER OUT BY TRINITY FALLS. AND IT'S NOT PRODUCT THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY HAVE IN MCKINNEY. WE'RE NOT PROUD OF IT . WE LIKE TO REMOVE IT, BUT IT'S THERE AND IT'S NOT IN THE CITY.AND SO AND IF MULTI FAMILY. IS IT'S HOT. EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO MULTI FAMILY. WELL, IF YOU DON'T LOCK IN THE COMMERCIAL YOU MIGHT HAVE 40 ACRES OF MULTIFAMILY. BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE MORE OF THE MULTI FAMILY THEN THEY'LL MAKE OFF THE COMMERCIAL. AND SO IF YOU LOCK IN THE ZONING IN EVEN THOUGH THEY THEY THREATENED TO DO TRAILER HOMES AND RV PARKS. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THEY COULD PROBABLY DO IT. I REALLY DON'T THINK YOU'D WANT THAT OUT THERE. UM. SO FOR THOSE REASONS I'M FOR THE PROJECT. CHARLIE. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE BASIC PREMISE OF I CAN'T MAKE MY COMMERCIAL WORK UNLESS YOU LET ME BUILD MULTI FAMILY BECAUSE THAT TELLS ME THE COMMUNITY DOES NOT NEED THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW. SO UNLESS YOU LET ME BUILD MY OWN CUSTOMER BASE BY BUILDING MULTI FAMILY APARTMENTS. I CAN'T MAKE MONEY OFF MY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO THE BASIC PREMISE IS JUST WAY OFF FOR ME, AND I PROMISED WHEN I CAME UP HERE, I WOULDN'T LEAVE MY COMMON SENSE AT HOME AND I'M NOT GOING TO IN THIS PROJECT AND TO SAY THAT IT'S GONNA COST THEM MORE TO BUILD THE S BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY US TAXES WILL NEXT CHANGE FOR THAT? THOSE TAXES? WE'RE PROVIDING POLICE PROTECTION. WE'RE PROVIDING FIRE PROTECTION. WE'RE PROVIDING FIRE PREVENTION SERVICES. WE'RE PROVIDING SOLID WASTE COLLECTION . WE'RE PROVIDING WATER SERVICE. WE'RE PROVIDING SANITARY SEWER SERVICE. WE'RE PROBABLY PROVIDING STREETS AND STREET MAINTENANCE, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE MAKING THEM PAY FOR THE STREETS, PARKS AND RECREATION ENVIRONMENTAL, HEALTH AND SPORTS , MINT SERVICES, PLANNING AND ZONING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM. EACH ONE OF THESE FOLKS
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SITTING HERE ON THE FRONT ROW WORK FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, AND WE'RE SPENDING THIS CITY'S TAX DOLLARS PAYING THEM TO DEAL WITH THIS PROJECT RIGHT NOW. THESE FOLKS SITTING UP HERE BEING PAID BY THE CITY'S TAXPAYERS WHEN WE START PROVIDING POLICE PROTECTION THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THOSE TAX DOLLARS. THEY'RE PAYING TO US. WHEN WE'RE PROVIDING THE SANITARY SEWERS WERE PROVIDING THE WATER LINES WERE MAINTAINING THAT AND THAT'S COSTING US MONEY. THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN FOR FREE. AND WE'RE PAYING FOR THAT OUT OF THE TAXES THAT THEY GIVE TO US. AND SO IF WE'RE GETTING TAXES OFF OF IT, WE'RE GIVING IT RIGHT BACK IN THE SERVICES. WE'RE GIVING THEM TOO. AND I DO NOT WANT TO OVERLOAD MY POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH A BUNCH OF NEW CITIZENS WHO DON'T HAVE A NEED TO BE THERE UNLESS IT'S SERVING THEIR COMMERCIAL PROJECT. I AM NOT FOR THE PROJECT ONCE SO EVER. I'M NOT FOR BURDENING MY CITY STAFF ANY FURTHER WITH PROBLEMS ON THIS PROJECT AND I BELIEVE IS PROBLEMATIC FROM THE GET GO, AND I'M CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO STAND BEHIND IT. THANK YOU. WELL I WOULD LOVE TO SAY ALL THOSE THINGS THAT IT WOULD BE POPULAR IN THIS ROOM AS WELL. BUT THE FACT IS A LOT OF THOSE FOR ME JUST ARE NOT TRUE. UM AS A DEVELOPER. YOU KNOW, IT'S A COMMENT WAS MADE. HDB MADE A DEAL WITH MELISSA. THEY'D ONLY BUILD A G B F D A APPROVED THOSE APARTMENTS. PEOPLE LIKE HDB HAVE BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL IN THE RETAIL BUSINESS, UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THAT DENSITY. THAT'S WHY THEY MAKE THAT REQUIREMENT. I UNDERSTAND HOW SOME PEOPLE IN THIS DIOCESE MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THAT BUT AS A DEVELOPER WHO DID ADRIATIC AND I CAN ASSURE YOU, ADRIATIC, IT WOULD NOT BE ADRIATICO WITHOUT THE THAT THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY THAT WE HAVE IN THERE IT WAS A REQUIREMENT NECESSARY COULDN'T WE COULDN'T HAVE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE STARWOOD AND HARRY'S AND THE NEW RESTAURANT THAT'S COMING IN. AND, UM I AND ALL THOSE THINGS ON THE INTERIOR IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE DENSITY, SO THERE'S ACTUALLY A REASON AND IT'S NOT VERY HARD TO UNDERSTAND WHY, IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE METRICS AND DEVELOPMENT THE FACT THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES IF THAT'S OUR REASONING, THEN BY GOD, LET'S STONE INCORPORATE ANY OTHER LAND IN MCKINNEY. WHY WOULD WE DO THAT? IF WE TAKE THE MONEY AND WE JUST GIVE IT RIGHT BACK OUT? IT'S ACTUALLY NOT THE WAY IT WORKS. NOT NOT. NOT EXACTLY. UM IT'S THOSE TAXES THAT COME IN THAT ALLOW US TO INCREASE OUR PARK SYSTEMS AND MANY OTHER AMENITIES THAT WE ALL ENJOY THE CITY AND THAT'S WHY WE TAKE IN PROPERTY AND THAT'S WHY WE ANNEX AND THAT'S WHY WE COLLECT TAXES. AND A LOT OF THE SERVICES THAT WERE MENTIONED ARE ACTUALLY BUILT INDIVIDUALLY. YOUR WATER IS BUILT INDIVIDUALLY . YOUR TRASH COLLECTION IS BUILT INDIVIDUALLY. THAT'S OUTSIDE THE TAXES THAT WE COLLECT. UM SO I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT PREMISE. I KNOW IT'S THE POPULAR THING TO SAY THESE DAYS AND MULTI FAMILY AS THE GASLIGHTING WORD, AND THE REALITY IS THAT WE ARE IN THE COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW.OUR AVERAGE HOME PRICE, PROBABLY BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, GOING TO BE ABOUT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. SO YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS WHERE I WANT TO LEAVE OUR CITY. I'M NOT LOOKING TO FILL OUR CITY WITH MULTI FAMILY WHAT I HOPE TO LEAVE OUR CITY AS A BALANCED CITY THAT ACCOMMODATES THE WORKFORCE. ALL WORKFORCE ACCOMMODATES OUR CHILDREN AS THEY GET OUT OF COLLEGE WHEN THEY NEED A PLACE TO RENT AND GROW. UM AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND BUSINESS AND ALL OF ALL OF THE THINGS THAT MAKE MCKINNEY WHAT IT IS, AND I THINK I'M KIDDING. IF YOU LOOK AROUND WHAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE LAST, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS IN THE IN THE INDUSTRY THAT WE HAVE BROUGHT IN AND THE ALL THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. BELIEVE ME THAT DEVELOPMENT ON 1 21 AND CRAIG RANCH HUB 1 21 DISTRICT 1 21, WEST GROVE UP ON 3 80. NONE OF THOSE WOULD BE HAPPENING WITHOUT THE DENSITY. IT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY IT'S HAPPENING. IT'S BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY IS ACTUALLY A CRITICAL AND NECESSARY COMPONENT FOR DEVELOPMENT. UM I HATE THE FACT THAT THAT THIS IS A COUPLE OF THINGS. I'D RATHER NOT COUPLE. IT THE MOST FOR ME. THE MOST ACCURATE THINGS STATED UP HERE, UM, BY MR INCLUDING IS I BELIEVE YOU SAID IT IS THE ANNEXATION.
MOTHER WAS CHANGED. SB SIX. IT'S A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD RIGHT? BECAUSE WE COULD BE AN X IN YOUR PROPERTY. AND YOU WOULDN'T LIKE THAT, UM, SAME TIME. THAT TOOL WOULD ALLOW US TO ANNEX THIS PROPERTY RIGHT NOW. WITHOUT THE ZONING ATTACHED TO IT, WE WOULD HAVE ANNEXED THE PROPERTY WHERE ALL THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WERE UM PEOPLE LOVE THAT ABILITY WHEN IT SUITS US AND HATE IT WHEN IT'S AFFECTING THEM. PERSONALLY, I GET IT. I GET IT, BUT THE DECISIONS WE'RE MAKING OUR SHOULD BE. AND REALLY NEED TO BE FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE COMMUNITY. I AM AND I AM GOING TO FALL IN MY DECISION BUT DOESN'T APPEAR LIKE IT WILL MATTER. I THINK FOR EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM, I'M GOING TO TAKE A WILD GUESS AND SAY THIS IS GOING TO BE A 33 VOTE. WHICH MEANS IT'S NOT GOING TO PASS. SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE OKAY? TODAY. IS MY GUESS I WILL BE VOTING FOR
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IT BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE DECISION IN FRONT OF ME. IS NOT ONE TO MAKE FOR THE POPULAR DECISION IN THIS ROOM. IT'S I BELIEVE THE DECISION IS THAT DO WE HAVE CONTROL OVER THE DEVELOPMENT? WHERE DO WE NOT? IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO THAT FOR ME. DO WE HAVE CONTROL OR DO WE NOT? I HOPE I'M WRONG AND ASSUME THIS DOESN'T PASS AND ASSUME I HOPE I'M WRONG THAT THEY DON'T GO AND BUILD ANYWAY AND BUILD SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL REALLY DON'T LIKE IT. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, I'M NOT GOING TO LIKE IT HATE IT. HEADED TO AND I HOPE THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENS. I HOPE WITH THE RESULT OF THIS IS IF IN FACT IT'S A 33 VOTE. IT DOESN'T PASS. I HOPE THEY GO BACK TO YOU. THEY COME UP WITH SOME MORE. UM THEY NEGOTIATE HARDER. FIND OUT SOME WAYS TO MAKE THIS ADVANTAGEOUS. MAYBE THEY'LL PROPOSE TO YOU AT TWO STORY GRADUATED THREE STORY MAYBE BIGGER BUFFERS. WAR BUT I HOPE IT DOESN'T END UP THAT THEY DEVELOP SOMETHING NOW THAT YOU DON'T LIKE OR IT TURNS TO ALL COMMERCIAL THAT'S GOING TO THAT. THAT YOU REALIZE WHEN YOU WAKE UP ONE DAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THE BACK OF THAT GROCERY STORE WITH THE WITH THE TRUCKS COMING IN AT TWO IN THE MORNING, AND THE DUMPSTERS GOING AND ALL THE RATS GOT YOU WISH IT WAS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. I REALLY HOPE IT DOESN'T BECAUSE WHAT'S GOOD FOR YOU IS GOOD FOR THE CITY, AND I WANT WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE CITY. SO THAT SAID, ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR A VOTE.MOVED AND WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE MOTION THAT WE, UM DECLINED THIS THIS ITEM. PERSON THAT WE DO NOT APPROVE. APPROVE THIS ITEM? YES. I'M GUESSING THERE'S A SECOND SECOND SECOND PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. SO THIS VOTE, OF COURSE, IS UM, TO DENY THE REQUEST. IS THAT YES, AS A DENY, AND NO IS YES, AS A DENY, AND IS IN NO IS TO NOT DENY. AND WE'LL HAVE THE CONTRARY VOTE. YEAH. SO THIS LOOK AT THAT. MY CRYSTAL BALL WAS RIGHT, 33 SO TONIGHT. YOU YOU LEAVE YOUR WITH WITH WHAT YOU WANTED WHAT I WOULD URGE YOU TO DO THOUGH, AM I RIGHT ON THAT ISLAND? MOTION FAILS. I'M SORRY. AND THEN THAT WILL BE 33 CONTRARY VOTE YES. OKAY, SO CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MOTION? WE APPROVE IT. SECOND PLEASE CAST THAT VOTE.
I'M GUESSING THE 3333 SO THE MOTION DOES NOT DOES NOT CARRY EITHER WAY. SO IN ESSENCE, AND THIS IS NOT THIS IS NOT APPROVED. ALAN IT FAILS. BUT HERE'S LISTEN ON ONE HAND, I'M LOVE TO MAKE EVERYONE IN THE ROOM HAPPY AND I'M NOT THE ONE WHO MADE YOU HAPPY, BUT YOU'RE GONNA LEAVE HERE. HAPPY WHAT I URGE YOU TO DO. IS REALLY GIVE THOUGHT TO WHAT? WHAT MIGHT LIE AHEAD AND WHETHER THAT'S GONNA MAKE AN OFFER AND BUY THE PROPERTY IF YOU SHOWED REALLY WANT TO KEEP THAT PROPERTY COMING TOGETHER. ALL THE MONEY, GO BUY IT OR GO SIT AND TALK TO DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS. YOU HAVE A CHOICE TO MAKE. YOU KNOW, MY HOPE WOULD BE THAT YOU WOULDN'T GO BUILD A BUNCH OF SUBPAR STUFF AND IN CIRCUMVENT YOU KNOW WHAT ? WHAT? WHAT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, BUT YOU'LL DO WHAT YOU'LL DO. I HOPE THAT YOU WILL SOMEHOW GET TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT SOMETHING THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY. BECAUSE UM YOU KNOW, THERE COULD HAVE BEEN 1/4 7TH PERSON HERE TODAY AND WHO KNOWS HOW THAT VOTE WOULD HAVE GONE? IT'S SAD THAT DEVELOPER GOT UP AND WALKED OUT BEFORE I HEARD YOU SAY THAT MR MAYOR. UM CAN I MAKE ONE COMMENT? MR MAYOR? I'M SORRY. I WANT TO REITERATE THAT IT WILL CURRY FAVOR WITH AT LEAST THIS MEMBER OF COUNCIL IF SELF ANNEXATION AGREEMENTS DID COME UP TO UNDERSTAND, SO THAT WE DID SAY, WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE? WE BELIEVE IT. WHAT? WE WANT TO LOOK COMMERCIAL. WE BELIEVE WE WANT TO BE RESIDENTIAL. YOU'VE GOT A NUMBER OF YEARS ON THOSE THINGS A LOT OF RUNWAY BUT IT WOULD REALLY HELP US TO BE ABLE TO SAY THESE PEOPLE MEANT BUSINESS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT. YOU DON'T. BUT IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS COMES BEFORE US AGAIN IN THOSE THINGS HAVEN'T HAPPENED. I'LL TAKE A MORE DIM VIEW ON IT AND MAYBE BUILD BE A BIT MORE JADED. RIGHT? IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO. YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA WANT TO STAY FOR THIS. OR MAYBE YOU DO. UM BUT WE DO APPRECIATE EVERYONE COMING IN HERE. WE ACTUALLY DO LISTEN TO WHAT YOU SAY AND, AS WAS STATED EARLIER AND APPRECIATE THE PASSION, AND IF I WERE YOU AND LIVING IN MY HOME, I WOULD BE FIGHTING TO KEEP IT JUST AS IT IS. I TOTALLY RESPECT THAT. BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY
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OR IF YOU LIKE TO SLIP OUT. I CAN TAKE TWO MINUTES BEFORE I GO TO THE NEXT ITEM. THERE THAT I JUST SAY ONE THING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THIS ABSOLUTELY. MM MM HMM. YEAH.MHM. IT WAS. AGREEMENT CONSIDERING IT. YEP. OKAY? GOT IT RIGHT. ABOUT. SIMPLE.
PROPERTY. YEAH. RIGHT? MM HMM. YEAH YOU ALREADY. UM, SURVEILLANCE. UM I THINK I KILLED SOMEBODY THE BOTTOM OF MY CHAIR OVER THERE. HERE'S YOUR RIGHT TACKLE CHAIR. THANK YOU.
SIGN. I KNOW THIS MOST DIFFICULT PART OF YOUR EVEN HE HASN'T EVEN BEGUN TO GET HARD YET. WE HAVEN'T PLEASE. SURE. ALRIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK. START BACK. ITEM 210188 Z TWO, IT HAS
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to Modify the Development Standards and to Allow for a Telecommunications Tower, Located 3109 South Custer Road, and Accompanying Ordinance (REQUEST TO BE TABLED)]
BEEN REQUESTED TO BE TABLED. THIS IS A AN ITEM TO CONDUCT PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ACT ON REQUEST TO REZONE SUBJECT PROPERTY PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. GENERALLY TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND TO ALLOW FOR A TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER LOCATED 31. OH NINE SOUTH COASTAL ROAD AND COMPANIES ORDINANCE AGAIN. THIS HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO BE TABLED. IS THERE ANYONE THAT HAS SHOWN UP TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS BEEN REQUESTED BE TABLED. HOLD ON. ARE YOU APPLICANTS? ARE YOU AND YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO IT ? I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN. WE'RE ASKING FOR THE TABLE. WE HAD TALKED TO THE VERIZON'S CONSTRUCTION TEAM ON THIS. WE WENT TO STONEBRIDGE RANCH FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL CONTROL COMMITTEE, AND THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING AT A COST. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WE THOUGHT.SO WE WANT TO TAKE AT LEAST A MONTH. TABLE THIS GO BACK TO STONEBRIDGE TALKED TO THEIR ARCHITECTURAL CONTROL COMMITTEE AND WORK OUT SOME OF THAT. ENGINEERING DESIGN STUFF AS WELL . SO WE CAN WE CONTINUE VERSUS TABLE TO JENNIFER OR CITY MANAGER. CAN WE CAN SHOULD WE CONTINUE THE ITEM VERSUS TABLE OR WHAT? OKAY DO YOU HAVE A DATE CERTAIN? OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC DATE. WELL WE WOULD IF YOU WERE GOING TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE IT ARE STANDARD PRACTICES THAT IT GETS TABLED TO THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING. IF THERE IS NOT A DATE, CERTAIN THAT IT WOULD BE AN INDEFINITE TABLING. WE NEED TO RE NOTICE. WE SHOULD PROBABLY DO THAT SINCE WE DON'T YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN BE READY BY NEXT MEETING THINKING ABOUT MAY 1ST FIRST TUESDAY IN MAY IF YOU CAN DO A SPECIFIC DATE PRETTY CONFIDENT WE'LL BE READY. THAT'S AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COUNCIL IN LEGAL. TYPICALLY, WHEN WE DO A TABLE NG TO A DATE CERTAIN IT IS THE NEXT SEQUENTIAL, UH, COUNCIL MEETING, BUT THERE'S NO HARD AND FAST RULE ON THAT. THAT'S JUST DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE? WHETHER WE CONTINUE TO MILLIONS AWAY OR DO EVERY TABLE. CAN WE CONTINUE TO MAY 3RD? IS THAT SOUND GOOD TO YOU, SIR? SO WE'LL CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO MAY 3RD YOU NEED EMOTION ON THAT. SO I MAKE A MOTION. WE CONTINUED. YOU MAKE IT AND AS THEIR 2ND 2ND AND THIS THANK YOU. YEAH SO WE CONTINUE. WE DON'T HAVE TO OPEN. YEAH, YEAH. YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE EVERYTHING TO MAKE THEIR WE HAVE A WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND IF YOU GOT THOSE, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. WE'RE ALL COMING TOGETHER NOW. ALRIGHT ITEM. 220001 S U P TWO CONDUCTOR POP HEARING TO CONSIDER AND ACT
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit Request for a Personal Service Use (Authentic Thai Massage Therapy), Located at 8751 Collin McKinney Parkway, Suite 203, and Accompanying Ordinance]
ON THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUESTS FOR PERSONAL SERVICE USE. AUTHENTIC THAI MASSAGE[02:35:05]
THERAPY LOCATED 87 51 COLLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY, SUITE TWO. OH, THREE, MR MAYOR, AS YOU READ, THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTHERN HILLS OFFICE PARK. COLLIN MCKINNEY AND YOUR PIPER GLEN. THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF IS EXISTING OR NEAR COMPLETION AND DEVELOPMENT AND THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT BEFORE YOU IS TO ALLOW FOR THE AUTHENTIC THAI MASSAGE, WHICH IS CONSIDERED A PERSONAL SERVICE USE TO GO INTO ONE OF THE SUITES WITHIN THAT OFFICE PARK, SUITE TWO. OH, THREE. WHEN LOOKING AT THE REQUEST, STAFF HAS EVALUATED THE EVALUATION CRITERIA FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT . WE DO FEEL AS THOUGH THE PROPOSED USES COMPATIBLE WITH THE OFFICE COMPLEX THERE. WE ARE, SO I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT THIS IS NOT A RETAIL MASSAGE THERAPY, UM, FACILITY. THIS IS ONE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY REQUIRE A REFERRAL FROM A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL OR DOCTOR'S OFFICE FOR FOLKS, SO IT IS NOT RETAIL. IT IS MEDICAL IN NATURE DURING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, WE DID HAVE SOME MEMBERS OF THE OWNERS ASSOCIATION FOR THE RETAIL COMPONENT SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST. HOWEVER WE HAVE COORDINATED WITH THEM SINCE THAT TIME AND THAT THEY ARE NOW IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST, AND I WANTED TO MAKE THAT KNOWN FOR THE RECORD. UM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CONSIDERED THE ITEM AS WELL. THEY ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. STAFF IS ALSO RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, AND I'D STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. I'M JUST CURIOUS, BUT WHY DO WE HAVE THIS ANIMAL LISTED AS SPECIALLY USED PERMIT FOR PERSONAL SERVICES. IF IT'S MEDICAL SERVICE, SO GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS, IT STILL IS JUST CONSIDERED A PERSONAL SERVICE USE. ALTHOUGH THIS IS MEDICAL SERVICE, WHICH IS IT WELL, THE MASSAGE COMPONENT IS CONSIDERED A PERSONAL SERVICE USED THE FACT THAT IT REQUIRES A REFERRAL OR MEDICAL. IT'S JUST SPECIFIC TO THAT PARTICULAR USER. IF FOR SOME REASON, THE AUTHENTIC THAI MASSAGE THERAPY WERE TO VACATE THE PROPERTY, AND, UM SOMEBODY ELSE WERE TO MOVE IN. THAT S U P FOR PERSONAL SERVICE TO ALLOW FOR A MASSAGE THERAPY CENTER WOULD TRANSFER OVER SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE MEDICAL. IT COULD BE A RETAIL, PERSONAL SERVICES AND MASSAGE THERAPY IN THE FUTURE. BUT THE TENANT BEFORE US TODAY IS THAT MEDICAL COMPONENT. STILL MAKES NO SENSE TO ME, BUT I'M OKAY WITH IT, EH? THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION IN HERE THEY ARE. THEY WERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE STILL HERE. RIGHT YOU DON'T YOU'RE WELCOME TO SPEAK IF YOU LIKE.BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO, IF YOU WOULD NOT LIKE TO IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK TO, I DO NEED TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM. THANK YOU , EVERYBODY FOR US TODAY. MY NAME'S IRONY. HOUSE ADVANCED VIEW CIRCLE IN ALLEN, TEXAS, VIA AUTHENTIC THYMUS SAUCE. SO WE PROVIDE A MASSAGE AS A REFERRAL FROM A DOCTOR AND PHYSICAL THERAPY IF THEY FOLLOW TWO HOUR MASSAGE AND ALSO. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING THIS OR ANYONE THAT CAME TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM. SAYING NONE ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THIS ADAM BECAUSE PUBLIC HEARING ENCLOSED PUBLICLY. SECOND PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.
[Consider/Discuss/Act on a Resolution Providing Support and Opposition of Various US Highway 380 Controlled Access Freeway Alignment Alternatives between Coit Road and FM 1827 Related to the Texas Department of Transportation US 380 Collin County Feasibility Study and Associated Environmental Impact Statement]
MOTION PASSES 2 TO 0 TO 97 CONSIDER ACT ON A RESOLUTION PROVIDING SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION OF VARIOUS U. S. HIGHWAY 3 80 CONTROLLED ACCESS FREEWAY ALIGNMENT ALTERNATIVES BETWEEN QUIT ROAD AND FM 18 27 RELATED TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT TRANSPORTATION, US CREATED COLLIN COUNTY VISIBLE STUDY AND ASSOCIATED ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT. HARRY. MAYOR THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBERS. GARY GRAHAM, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING . JOSH COULD YOU BRING UP EXHIBIT A ONE AND A FOUR, PLEASE? AND LET'S START WITH A ONE PERFECT. OKAY SO TEXT DOT HELD A PUBLIC MEETING ON MARCH 22ND FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT THEY ARE CONDUCTING FOR THIS SEGMENT OF THE 3 83 WAY ANALYSIS. UM, THISM THE HOT COUNTY LINE ALL THE WAY TO THE DENTON COUNTY LINE, AND SO THEY HAVE DIVIDED THE SEGMENT UP THE ROADWAY UP INTO FIVE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE DEVELOPED A RESOLUTION FOR YOUR[02:40:03]
CONSIDERATION FOR TONIGHT. IT'S ONLY THIS PARTICULAR SEGMENT. IT DOES NOT INVOLVE ANYTHING DOWN BY THE AIRPORT. BUT JUST THE 3 80 BYPASS THROUGH MCKINNEY. SO AT THAT PUBLIC MEETING, THEY PRESENTED FOUR DIFFERENT ALIGNMENTS SEGMENTS A AND B AND D AND C SEGMENT. E UH, IS COMMON TO ALL DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES, SO IT REALLY WASN'T UP FOR DEBATE ON ITS ITS ITS ALIGNMENT.AND THEN SEGMENT F WAS OFFICIALLY REMOVED FOR CONSIDERATION. SEGMENT F WOULD HAVE BEEN ON EXISTING 3 80 SO TEXT THAT IS NOW ELIMINATED THAT IS AN OPTION FOR CONSIDERATION.
SO BUT SO AT THE PUBLIC MEETING TEXT PREPARED A NICE HANDY SEGMENT ANALYSIS. I APOLOGIZE. I DID NOT ATTACH THIS TO YOUR PACKET, BUT WE CAN GET YOU COPIES OF THAT IF YOU'D LIKE IT'S OUT ON TECH STOCKS WEBSITE. UM AND THEY ARE ASKING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE DIFFERENT ALIGNMENTS PROVIDED PUBLIC COMMENT. PERIOD WAS SUPPOSED TO END TOMORROW. APRIL 6TH. BUT WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL TODAY TELLING US THAT PUBLIC COMPETENT COMMENT PERIOD HAS BEEN EXTENDED UNTIL APRIL 21ST. SO IF YOU HAVE NOT MADE PUBLIC COMMENT, WE ENCOURAGE ALL OF OUR CITIZENS TO TAKE PART OF THIS PROCESS AND HAVE THEIR VOICE HEARD ON WHICH ALIGNMENT DAY WOULD PREFER TEXTILE TO PROOF. BUT SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS WALK THROUGH REAL QUICKLY AT A HIGH LEVEL, JUST SOME OF THE ELEMENTS FROM THE SEGMENT ANALYSIS THAT TEXT PREPARED SO IF I LOSE YOU THE NUMBERS YOU WANT ME TO REPEAT YOU SOMETHING, PLEASE HOLLER AT ME. THE SEGMENT ANALYSIS. I'M GONNA START WITH A AND B AND THEN I'LL SCREW SHIFT AND TALK ABOUT C AND D. BUT THE SEGMENT ANALYSIS LOOKED AT ENGINEERING DISPLACEMENTS AND RIGHT AWAY. LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS ENVIRONMENTAL AND NATURAL RESOURCES, COMMUNITY IMPACT AND CULTURAL RESOURCES OVERALL COST . THEY DO HAVE A SEGMENT IN THERE FOR NOISE ANALYSIS, BUT THEY'RE NOT TO A POINT WHERE THERE IS ANY ANALYSIS DONE IN THAT SECTION, SO I WON'T TALK ABOUT THAT IN OUR RESOLUTION DOESN'T REFER TO THAT AS WELL, EITHER. SO A COUPLE OF JUST TALKING ABOUT BETWEEN SEGMENTS B AND A SEGMENT B IS 18% SHORTER THAN SEGMENT. A SEGMENT B REQUIRES APPROXIMATELY $36 MILLION LESS IN UTILITY RELOCATIONS LIKE FRANCHISES OR EXCUSE ME, UM CITY UTILITIES LIKE OR NORTH TEXAS CITY UTILITIES, WATER SEWER. THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE UTILITIES THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO RELOCATE ON OUR OWN COST BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE EXISTING TEXT RIGHT AWAY. THOSE ARE ONLY UTILITIES THAT ARE ALREADY IN A SEPARATE EASEMENT. TECH STOCKS OBLIGATED TO REMOVE AND REPLACE RELOCATE ON THEIR COST. SEGMENT B REQUIRES 73% FEWER COMBINED BUSINESS AND RESOLUTION JUST RESIDENTIAL DISPLACEMENTS. SEGMENT B REQUIRES APPROXIMATELY $41 MILLION LESSON RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITIONS. UM. THERE ARE SIMILAR IMPACT BOTH ON A AND B TO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS PLANNED BY, YOU KNOW, IT'S UNDEVELOPED PLANT. UM THEN THE OVERALL COST IS ABOUT 14% LESS COMPARED SEGMENT BEAT A SEGMENT A SEGMENT B IS LOWER.
ADDITIONALLY WE'VE HAD A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE MAIN GATE DEVELOPMENT AND TEXT OUT OFFICIALLY HAS DONE MORE RESEARCH AND HAS SAID THAT THIS IMPACT OTHER FACILITIES LIKE THIS ARE LOCATED NEXT TO HIGHWAYS. IS NOT. THE HIGHWAY IS NOT A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE FACILITY SO THEY ARE REMOVING THE MAIN GATE CONSIDERATION WHEN THEY DID. THE FEASIBILITY STUDY TO REMEMBER MAIN GATE WAS ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS THEY SELECTED A VERSUS WHAT THE OTHER OPTION WAS BACK AT THAT TIME, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ALIGNMENT THAN BE, BUT THEY HAVE NOW REMOVED MAIN GATE AS A MAJOR CONSIDERATION, SO UM, NOW SWITCHING OVER TO SEGMENT C AND D, OF COURSE, THE CITY COUNCIL PASSED RESOLUTIONS AND A AND B BEFORE, UM AND SUPPORTIVE. UM ALIGNMENT BE. WE HAVE NOT TAKEN BROADER RESOLUTION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION CND YET, SO THIS IS KIND OF PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME WE REALLY DELVE INTO THIS IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. PLEASE LET ME KNOW. BUT, UM ALIGNMENT. SEE IS HAS ABOUT HALF THE TOTAL BRIDGE LENGTH THAN ALIGNMENT D SO WHY MANDY IS CONSTRUCTED BASICALLY AND FLOODPLAIN ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE EAST FORK OF THE TRINITY RIVER. AND SO IT IS MOSTLY BRIDGE FOR THAT SO MUCH HIGHER COST. THERE'S ABOUT $52 MILLION LESS FOR MAJOR WATER AND WASTEWATER UTILITY RELOCATIONS FOR C THAN COMPARED TO D. SEE ALSO, IF YOU'RE DISPLACEMENTS THE RIGHT AWAY COSTS FOR BOTH ALTERNATIVES OR COMPARABLE. AND THEN THE OVERALL COST FOR C IS ABOUT 18% LESS THAN D. SO THE RESOLUTION. WE PREPARED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. WE HAVE WRITTEN THAT, UH, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS YOU SUPPORT OPTION B SEGMENT BE YOUR POSE. SO SEGMENT A. YOU SUPPORT SEGMENT C AND OPPOSE
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SEGMENT D. THAT CORRESPONDS TO SWITCH TO THAT OTHER ALIGNMENT. AH IT'S CALLED THE BROWN ALTERNATIVE. SO B, C AND E WOULD BE THE PREFERRED OPTION THAT WE'RE PRESENTING THE CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. SO AGAIN, I OPENED ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE THROUGH A LOT OF NUMBERS THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE THEM ON THE SLIDE. I APOLOGIZE, BUT ASK AWAY GARY, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE YOU HAD BEFORE, PLEASE? OKAY UM, IF YOU LOOK AT A GOES NORTH SOUTH, AND THEN IT TURNS EAST WEST, OKAY, WHAT DOES THE EXISTING 3 80 LOOK LIKE? GIVEN THAT IT'S DARKENED IN THERE UNTIL IT GETS TO BE IN PAST BE. ARE THEY GOING TO BE WIDENING THAT ARE THEY GOING TO BE DISPLACING BUSINESSES ALONG? TRADITIONAL 3 80. OR IS THAT LINE JUST THERE TO CONNECTED TO BE SO STARTING FROM THE WEST END MOVING EAST. SO THERE ARE SEVERAL BUSINESSES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 3 80 WEST OF CUSTER THAT WILL BE DISPLACED. OKAY, SO MULTIPLE NEW BUSINESSES ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED ON THE NORTH SIDE. UM EAST OF CUSTER IN MCKINNEY THAT WILL BE DISPLACED . IT WILL BE THE FULL WIDTH INTERCHANGE, THE 350 PLUS FEET WITH RIGHT AWAY. AS THAT COMES NEAT EAST AND GETS TOWARDS STONEBRIDGE. THEY'RE GOING TO NECK DOWN THE FOOTPRINT TO ABOUT 240 FT, UM, THEY WILL START TO LIMIT ACCESS IN THAT IN THAT AREA BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A NARROW FOOTPRINT. UNTIL IT GETS EAST OF TUCKER HILL, AND THEN WE'LL START TO MAKE THAT CURVE TO THE NORTH. AS IT MAKES THAT CURVE TO THE NORTH. IT STARTS TO EXPAND BACK OUT TO THAT 350 ISH. PUT IT RIGHT AWAY. OKAY SO WHEN WE SAY THAT B IS SHORTER THAN A AND LESS EXPENSIVE THAN A REALLY IS THE NORTH SOUTH AND THE EAST WEST ON THAT, UH, YOU KNOW THE NEW ROAD, WHICH IS NORTH SOUTH AND THEN THE WIDENING IN THE DISRUPTION ALONG THE EAST WEST, WHICH IS THE EXISTING 3 80. THANK YOU. YES. I AGREE. UM YES, SIR. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN C AND D, UM I THOUGHT I SAW AN ALIGNMENT THAT DEEM OR LESS ALIGNED WITH AIRPORT ROAD GOING NORTH AND SOUTH AND WOULD IT BE AN EXTENSION OF AIRPORT ROAD TO SEE? EXCUSE ME, LINEMAN? D IS VERY SIMILAR. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE AIRPORT ROADS KIND OF GRAYED OUT JUST SOUTH OF THAT. 3 80 GRAPHIC AND SO YES, INDEED DOES ALIGN WITH EXISTING AIRPORT ROAD SEE ALIGNS WITH THE OPTION THAT THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN IN FAVOR WITH ON THE SPUR 3 99. UM OPTION SOUTH AND EAST OF THE AIRPORT. AND SO SEE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR GARY. NO. I KNOW A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION FROM PROSPER. I'VE HEARD ALL KINDS OF COMMENTS THAT THIS. GUINEA SHOULDN'T BE DICTATING WHAT HAPPENS IN PROSPER. THAT PROSPEROUS SHOULD TAKE CARE OF PROSPER MCKINNEY SHOULD TAKE CARE OF MCKINNEY. THIS IS A STATE HIGHWAY. THIS IS A REGIONAL MOBILITY ISSUE. UM IT IS NOT A THIS IS NOT A. CIRCUMSTANCE THAT EXISTS BECAUSE MCKINNEY DIDN'T PLAN. THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A STATE HIGHWAY. CORRECT THAT IS CORRECT. YEAH, AND WHAT WE ALL NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT IS REGIONAL MOBILITY AND WHAT IS BEST FOR THE FOR THE REGION. THAT NOT JUST ANYONE CITY. UM. OUR LAST RESOLUTION, I THINK WAS. IT DEALT MUCH MORE WITH THE FACT THAT WE WERE OPPOSED TO ROUTE A THAT IT WAS IN FAVOR OF ANYTHING ELSE IS THAT ACCURATE? SO THE LAST RESOLUTION SAID WE SUPPORT B BUT DID NOT SPECIFICALLY YOUR POSE A WE, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZING THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE CONSTRUCTED. UH, WE WERE VERY WITH TRY TO WORD THE RESOLUTION IN SUCH A MANNER THAT SAYS BE AS THE UM, CLEAR, OBVIOUS REGIONAL MOBILITY CHOICE, RIGHT? BUT WE DID NOT SPECIFICALLY OPPOSE A BUT AFTER LOOKING THROUGH THIS SEGMENT ANALYSIS CLEAR IS NOW TO A POINT WHERE WE FELT LIKE WE COULD OPPOSE BE. EXCUSE ME.OPPOSED A AND SUPPORT A SUPPORT BE. EXCUSE ME. MORE DEFINITIVELY BECAUSE WE HAD THE FACTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT BEFORE WE DID NOT HAVE ALL THOSE FACTS. YEAH, WE'VE ALWAYS SUPPORTED E AND WE'VE BEEN IN SUPPORTIVE, SEE WHETHER THAT WAS RESOLUTION OR NOT. IT'S CERTAINLY WHAT WE'VE
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TALKED ABOUT. I KNOW THERE'S A FEW MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THAT WE'RE NOT ON. AND SO AT THAT TIME I'M SORRY. IT'S NOT A QUESTION ANSWER. IT'S NOT THIS TYPE OF INTERACTION RIGHT NOW.SORRY. WE HAD PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM PRIOR TO COUNCIL. I'M SORRY. IT'S YEAH, IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. UM. THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, MR MAYOR, I'D MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVED THE RESOLUTION AS DRAFTED BY CAN I MAKE ONE COMMENT? NO I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF EMAILS TEXT FROM CONSTITUENTS. IN DISTRICT FOUR. KIND OF WHERE WE STAND. SO I'M REALLY GLAD THAT WE'RE COMING OUT WITH THIS RESOLUTION. AND BACK WHEN WE DID THE RESOLUTION , I THINK I CAME OUT AND SAID I'M PRETTY SURE I DID THAT. I WAS AGAINST ANYTHING THAT CAME DOWN 3 80. AND THAT WAS MY PERSONAL BELIEF, EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T HAVE A RESOLUTION TO THAT EFFECT. UM BUT. EVERYBODY KNOWS ALL THE REASONS YOU KNOW IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE TO DO RUBY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIAGRAM, IT JUST LOOKS. AWKWARD TO HAVE THAT HIGHWAY GO. YOU KNOW, STRAIGHT UP AND THEN OVER IN AN ASCE, IT'S GONNA IT'S GONNA TAKE OUT BUSINESSES THAT HAVE CHOSEN UH, TO MAKE MCKINNEY THEIR PLACE OF BUSINESS. UM, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS COMING. UM SO FOR ALL THOSE REASONS, I'M UM VERY OPPOSED TO OPTION I VERY, VERY MUCH SUPPORTIVE OF OPTION B. AND I JUST WANT TO GET THAT ON RECORD.
I WANT TO. I AM VERY MUCH OPPOSED TO A I'VE BEEN VOCAL ABOUT THAT ALL ALONG. I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN IN FAVOR OF A SOMETHING SIMILAR TO BE, OF COURSE, IS A CITY WE PROVIDED.
TECH START WITH SOME OPTIONS EARLY ON THAT AGAIN. VERY HIGH LEVEL. VERY 110,000 FT. MAYBE BUT THAT ACTUALLY WAS FURTHER SOUTH AND COMPLETELY AVOIDED MAIN GATE I DO WANT TO SAY FOR THE RECORD, I THINK I SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY UP HERE THAT WE ALL VALUE MAIN GATE WE VALUE WHAT MAIN GATE DOES THERE OF A VALUED MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY OF THE WORK THEY DO IS GREAT. I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS RESOLUTION, BUT DO WANT TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT I, UH I SUPPORT MAIN GATE AND I SUPPORT A ROUTE. UH I DON'T SUPPORT A ROUTE. IF IT IS GOING TO, UM DESTROYED MAIN GATE, SO I WANT TO BE SURE THAT I'M ON RECORD. UM YOU KNOW, JUST JUST AGAIN PUSHING TEXT THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT IS DONE IS SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT IMPEDE THE WORK THAT THEY DO. I'LL STATE MR MAYOR, THAT I AM. VIGOROUSLY AGAINST OPTION A. WHICH PUTS ME IN THE CAMP OF OPTION B. BUT IF THEY WERE ABLE TO TAPER OPTION BEING AWAY THAT WAS MORE FRIENDLY TO PROSPER.
I'D BE VERY RECEPTIVE TO THAT, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND PROSPER LOOKS AT THIS AS A RELATIVELY BINARY CHOICE AND BINARY FIGHT, WHICH IS A OR B. AH A JUST DOESN'T WORK FOR MCKINNEY AT ALL, AND IT'S IN A BYPASS OUT OF BYPASS, YOU KNOW, AND SO IT WE WE'VE GOT A VERY BUSY HIGHWAY.
UM. CALI MAN. I USED TO TAKE THAT THING ALL THE WAY TO BRIDGEPORT'S. WHEN I TOOK MY KIDS TO LUBBOCK. I WENT DOWN THAT ROAD 1000 TIMES, AND THAT ROAD STUNK. AND SO IT IS DOING NOTHING BUT GETTING WORSE. SO A IS A TERRIBLE OPTION. UM BE OR SOME ADAPTATION TO THAT IS FINE WITH ME. I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT IN THE MOTION I MADE IT IS TO PROVE THE RESOLUTION THAT GARY AND STAFF HAVE DRAFTED FOR US. AND IT CLEARLY STATES WERE SUPPORTING OPTION B, BUT IT ONLY SAYS WE'RE OPPOSING. OPTION A DOESN'T SAY VIGOROUSLY OPPOSING OR VERY OPPOSED, BUT IT JUST SAYS OPPOSES OPTION SO THAT EVERYBODY'S VERY VIGOROUS ONE. I THREW MY FIGURES WE COULD AMEND IT TO SAY VIGOROUSLY AND VERY OPPOSED. BOTH MY FANS ON TV. GET TO HEAR THAT I'M VIGOROUSLY OPPOSED. BUT, YOU KNOW, UM FORGIVE ME. I HAD A THOUGHT ON THAT. YOU KNOW HERE, OKAY? I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE LAST POINT. I THINK TECH STARTS GETTING PAID BY THE HOUR BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS UNTIL LATE 2023. LATE 2023, SO THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME I THINK FOR THEM TO FIGURE THIS THING OUT AND SEE
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IF THERE'S SOMETHING BETTER THAN BE, BUT THERE'S CERTAINLY HELD A LOT BETTER THAN A BUT I'LL SECOND YOUR MOTION AT THIS POINT, IF THAT NEEDS DOING ANY OTHER COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT.MOTION HAS BEEN MADE, AND THERE'S BEEN A SECOND. SORRY. I GOT BOOTED FROM THE MEETING. JOSH, GET BACK IN. HERE ON OUT. OH, ITEM 2 TO 0 TO 98 CONCERTANTE ACT ON A RESOLUTION
[Consider/Discuss/Act on a Resolution Authorizing the City Manager to Execute a Contract and All Necessary Change Orders with Axis Contracting, Inc., for the Construction of the East Louisiana Street Improvements and Andrews Street and Green Street Infrastructure Improvements Projects]
AUTHORIZING CITY MEASURED THE CONTRACT AND ALL NECESSARY CHANGE ORDERS WITH ACCESS CONTRACTING INC FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE EAST LOUISIANA STREET IMPROVEMENTS.AND ANDREW STREET AND GREEN STREET INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. FULLER COUNCIL NICOTINE ENGINEERING SIP MANAGER, ANOTHER EXCITING MILESTONE FOR EAST MCKINNEY AS WE SEEK TO AWARD A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT. FOR SEVERAL STREETS OVER THERE, EAST HIGHWAY FIVE. SO JOSH, WE COULD PULL UP THE LOCATION MAP ON THAT ONE. I HOPE THAT'S NOT IT. SO THE PROJECT INCLUDES. EXCUSE ME. THE PROJECT INCLUDES A FOUR RECONSTRUCTION OF SEVERAL STREETS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED THERE , PRIMARILY EAST LOUISIANA STREET, UM FROM STATE HIGHWAY FIVE, JUST EAST OF MURRAY. THIS WILL BE A CONTINUATION OF THE SAME TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE DIDN'T LIGHT UP LOUISIANA. IF YOU REMEMBER THAT PROJECT, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS ALONG GREEN ST. ANDREWS STREET, GREENVILLE AND A PORTION OF MURRAY SO THIS WILL BE KIND OF THE FIRST, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE CATALYST PROJECT FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT EFFORTS IN EAST MCKINNEY. SOME TRAFFIC FLOW IMPROVEMENTS WILL INCLUDE A SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUT AT LOUISIANA IN GREENVILLE. WE ISSUED A COMPETITIVE SEAL PROPOSAL FOR THIS SOLICITATION AND RECEIVED TWO PROPOSALS ON FEBRUARY 28TH. THE SORRY THE COMPETITIVE SO PROPOSAL INCLUDED CRITERIA WE WOULD EVALUATE. THE CATEGORIES WERE THE NARRATIVE APPROACH. THE CONTRACTOR AND SUBCONTRACTOR QUALIFICATIONS AS WELL AS THE PROPOSAL PRICE. ACCESS CONTRACTING INC SCORED THE HIGHEST AND WAS ALSO THE LOWEST PROPOSAL PRICE. THE PROJECT INCLUDES THE SCHEDULE OF 395 CALENDAR DAYS TO COMPLETE AS WE DID WITH A LOT OF LOUISIANA PROJECT. WE DO HAVE A INCENTIVE CAUSE ON THIS PROJECT THAT ALLOWS $1000 PER CALENDAR DAY UP TO 60 DAYS FOR EARLY COMPLETION.
OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER EFFORTS UNDERWAY THAT, UM, WOULE COMPLETE BEFORE THE CONTRACTUAL DATE. SO WITH THAT, THAT WOULD PUT THE COMPLETION IN JUNE OF 23, POSSIBLY EARLIER WITH THAT INCENTIVE. AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON THESE PROJECTS. QUESTIONS. CAN IT BE DONE THIS MONTH? SH ONE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN A GREAT PARTNER ON THIS PROJECT, SO THEY HAVE COMMITTED $4.1 MILLION. TOWARDS OUR EAST LOUISIANA IMPROVEMENTS. I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEM AS WELL. THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION? I WILL MOVE THAT WE APPROVED. THIS ITEM IS PRESENTED BY STAFF. AND RICK SAID SORRY. SECOND CAST YOUR VOTES. THANK YOU, NICK. OKAY, NICK, LAST ITEM
[Consider/Discuss/Act on Appointing a Member to the North Texas Municipal Water District (NTMWD) Board of Directors]
2 TO 0 TO 99 CONSIDERED ACT ON APPOINTING A MEMBER TO THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT BORDER DIRECTORS. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. UM THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS TO REPLACE BOARD DIRECTOR OF BARBARA EPPOLITO, HIS OR RE OR RE APPOINT, APPOINT. UM I'M SORRY. YES. UM HIS TERM WILL EXPIRE MAY 31ST SO IF YOU CHOOSE TO REAPPOINT OR CHOOSE A NEW ONE, THEIR TERM WILL GO FROM JUNE 1ST 2022 TO MAY 31ST 2024. I MUST SAY THAT I AM AN ADVOCATE TO REAPPOINT ROBERT. HE IS DOING A GREAT JOB . TALK TO STAFF, THE WATER DISTRICT AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND HE IS VERY WELL RESPECTED WITH THAT TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF KNOWLEDGE. UM SO I'M IN FAVOR OF REAPPOINTING THE SAME ONE HAVE ANYONE ELSE THAT THEY WANT TO PUT FORTH CONCUR WITH YOUR COMMENTS, MR MAYOR. AND OR EMOTION, THEN TO REAPPOINT ROBERT EPPOLITO. THE[03:00:07]
COMMOTION THAT WE RE APPOINT ROBERT ATHLETES TO THE NORTH TEXAS ME IN THIS POOL WATER BOARD. I'LL SECOND FOR HIS CASH FOR VOTES. IS GREAT. I THINK THAT THERE'S MAYBE A WAGER ON WHEN THE MEETING WILL BE OVER IN SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO SEND BACK AND KEEP THE MEETING GOING. IS THAT WHAT'S GOING ON UP HERE? UH LOST AT 8 30. I HAVE IS TO 11. SO I'M GONNA BE READING CLEAN[CITIZEN COMMENTS ON MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA]
EGGS AND HAM SHORTLY. CITIZEN COMMENTS ON MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA. I SHOW I HAVE SOMEBODY.DAN PORZIO, ARE YOU HERE? THOUGHT I SAW DOWN THE IT WAS HERE, BUT HE LEFT HERE EARLIER HE LEFT. I SAW HIM WALK OUT THE DOOR AND BRITAIN DEVEREAUX. TELL YOU WHAT. COME ON UP. COME ON.
JUNE. HAVE YOU SPEAK. I KNOW IT'S NOT QUESTION ANSWER. JANET JAGAN IN 1991. SINCE AT TRAIL, I WAS KIND OF SHOCKED TO SEE THE 3 80 THE RESOLUTION. THAT'S WHY I HAD A QUESTION SINCE IT'S AN ISSUE OF FIRST IMPRESSION HERE. AND I ACTUALLY DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE IT ON THE AGENDA UNTIL I WAS SITTING HERE AND SITE JUST AS THE HIGHLIGHT, NOT THE DETAIL BEHIND IT ON SANDY. IT'S IN MY AREA. IT'S E T. J BOTH C AND D AND I AM STRENUOUSLY IN FAVOR OF D OVERSEE. I THINK NEITHER WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEM BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY NEED AN EAST WEST FROM WILMOTH GOING EAST. SO IT'S A TRUE EAST WEST. THAT PARALLELS 3 80, ESPECIALLY WITH THE 3 99 SPUR TAKING TRAFFIC SOUTH. SO YOU'RE GETTING THE BEDROOM COMMUNITIES OF PRINCETON AND FARMERSVILLE GOING SOUTH DOWN TO WHERE ALL THE JOBS ARE RIGHT NOW VERSUS GOING NORTH UP TO SHERMAN , WHICH IS LOVELY, BUT IT'S JUST A COMMUNAL BEDROOM COMMUNITY, SO I'M QUESTIONING ON THE TRAFFIC FLOW IN GENERAL, IF EITHER C OR D IS ACTUALLY NEEDED AND PUT THAT MONEY TOWARDS A TRUE EAST WEST ALONG WILMOTH, SKIRTING THE SOUTH, PART OF THE NEW WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT'S GOING IN NORTH OF NEW HOPE. THEY ALREADY OWN THAT LAND. YOU COULD GO STRAIGHT THROUGH ALL THE WAY OVER TO PRINCETON EVEN ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO 78. SO I I'M JUST SAYING IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU COULD RECONSIDER THE RESOLUTION ON THE PART C AND D AND ALLOW THE PUBLIC SOMETIME TO PROVIDE INPUT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NORMALLY AGAIN, UNUSUAL BOTH WAYS. BUT I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND BE UNUSUAL FURTHER AND JUST RESPOND AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR WHAT? WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, AND NO , NO, A COUPLE OF THINGS ONE THE COUNCIL. WE HAVE HAD ALL WE'VE ALL HAD DISCUSSION AND WE ALL SUPPORT. WILMOTH BLOOM DALE LAUD HOW ALL OF THOSE ROADS AS FAST AS WE CAN GETTING THOSE BUILT OUT AND HAVING THAT EAST WEST WE ALL WE ALL KNOW THAT WE SEE THAT BUT DO KNOW THAT 3 80 BEING A STATE HIGHWAY. THAT'S A STATE FUNDED PROJECT AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT, AND IT'S NOT LIKE WE EVEN HAVE THE CHOICE TO SAY, HEY , DON'T SPEND THE MONEY THERE AND GIVE IT TO US TO SPEND ON THE OTHER SO THOSE OTHER ROADS ARE INCUMBENT UPON US AND CANDY AND OTHER OTHER FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE THAT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER TO PURSUE THOSE COMPLETION, BUT WE IF WE COULD WAVE A WAND TODAY. BLOOMINGDALE LORD HOWELL WILMOTH WOULD ALL BE COMPLETELY BUILT OUT EAST WEST ALL THE WAY ACROSS AND WE ARE MOVING AS FAST AS WE CAN IN THAT DIRECTION WITH THE FUNDS AVAILABLE, SO WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU JUST SAID. WE RECOGNIZE THAT NEED AS WELL. UM AND THOSE THINGS WILL HELP DRAMATICALLY AND ARGUABLY MORE THAN CRD TO YOUR POINT. UM NOW WE ARE AT THE
[COUNCIL AND MANAGER COMMENTS]
END OF OUR EXCITING AGENDA. WE HAVE LEFT COUNCIL, A MANAGER COMMENTS WHICH ARE NOT A REQUIREMENT. I HAVE ONE. UM AT NINE O'CLOCK, BUT WE'LL START AT THE OTHER END TONIGHT, COUNSELOR MILLER UM, THERE IS A CITY IN CALIFORNIA CALLED WATSON BILL, AND IN 2000 AND 16. THEY WON A THIRD HAPPIEST AND HEALTHY CITY IN AMERICA FROM A GALLUP POLL. THE PROBLEMS WE'RE DEALING WITH TONIGHT ARE WE ARE DEALING WITH THE PROBLEMS OF A GROWING THRIVING CITY. THEY'RE DEALING WITH SOMETHING MUCH WORSE. THEY WERE NUMBER THREE AND 92,016. AND THE WALL STREET JOURNAL ON MARCH 31. THEY WAS ANNOUNCED THEIR ONLY HOSPITAL WENT BANKRUPT. IT'S GOING TO TAKE THAT COMMUNITY OF 50,000 PEOPLE $70 MILLION TO REOPEN THEIR ONLY HOSPITAL. WE DON'T HAVE ANY REAL[03:05:04]
PROBLEMS. THE GREATNESS OF MCKINNEY IS EVIDENCED BY THIS IS RENTED WITH THE RENT DUE EVERY DAY EVERY MONTH, EVERY YEAR, AND WE CAN THANK OUR YOU KNOW OUR PEOPLE PRIOR ON PART OF THE STARS LIKE BRIAN, LOCK MILLER AND SHERRY FELTUS AND BEN WATSON AND JOHN GAY AND A BUNCH OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT I AM NOT GOING TO MENTION, BUT IT'S NOT LOST ON US THAT, UM YOU KNOW WE'RE DOING SOMETHING FOR TOMORROW'S MCKINNEY, AND IT'S NOT GUARANTEED. THANK YOU, MADAM.FROM THERE WE HAVE A YOUNG MAN IS A JUNIOR AT MCKINLEY HIGH SCHOOL, AND HE TOOK THE S A T AND HAD A PERFECT SCORE IN COMPUTER SCIENCE. WHICH PUTS HIM IN THE TOP ONE HALF PERCENT OF THE WORLD. AND THEY TALK ABOUT HIM BEING PERHAPS THE NEXT STEVE JOBS OR BILL GATES, AND I THINK HE'S BEYOND THAT. HE'S PROBABLY THE NEXT RICK FRANKLIN OF TECHNOLOGY. THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. PLEASE DON'T SETTLE HIM WITH THAT. BUT BUT HERE IS THE YOUNG MAN WHO JUST EXTREMELY BRILLIANT. JUST A JUNIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL CAN PRETTY MUCH PICK WHAT SCHOOL HE GOES TO, AND HE'LL BE OUT THERE REPRESENTING MCKINNEY, SOMETHING TO BE VERY PROUD OF. MCKINNEY BOYD IS STILL PLAYING IN THE STATES SOCCER TOURNAMENT THERE UP TO THE REGIONAL FINALS ON APRIL 8TH PLAYING KELLER. IF THEY WIN THERE, THEY GO ON TO THE STATE SEMIS AND THEN THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP, SO A LOT OF GOOD ATHLETES WORKING HARD OUT THERE. UM THIS PAST WEEKEND WAS CHALLENGER OUT AT THE AIRPORT.
AND IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT, ITS PROGRAM WHERE PRIVATE PILOTS FROM AROUND REGION FLY IN AND TAKE SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN AND ADULTS UP FOR PERHAPS THEIR FIRST AND ONLY PLANE RIDE IN THEIR LIVES AND MAKE THAT GIVE THEM A VERY, VERY SPECIAL. RIDE IN AN AIRPLANE. LET THEM TAKE THE STICK WHILE THEY'RE UP THERE AND FLY A LITTLE BIT TREMENDOUS PROGRAM. I GOT TO SAY THANKS TO THE DIRECTORS AND SOME OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS THAT WERE THERE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY FOR BRINGING THAT PROGRAM HERE AND WANT TO SAY, THANKS TO EACH AND ALL THE PILOTS BECAUSE JET FUEL IS UP THERE. JUST AIRPLANE FUEL IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WHAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN YOUR CAR, AND THOSE FOLKS FROM ALL OVER THE REGION PUT THEIR MONEY INTO IT. AND FLY OUT HERE TO GIVE THESE GUYS A SPECIAL DAY, AND IT'S A SPECIAL DAY FROM MCKINNEY AND MCKINNEY'S AIRPORT. WE HAVE ANOTHER SPECIAL DAY COMING UP ON APRIL THE 14TH IT'S SPECIAL OLYMPICS HERE IN MCKINNEY. IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN OUT TO SPECIAL OLYMPICS, PLEASE COME AND SIT RON POST STADIUM LAST TIME WE DID IT WAS I THINK THREE YEARS AGO BECAUSE COVID WE HAD 800 ATHLETES FROM AROUND THE REGION PARTICIPATING AT THAT TIME AND THE GREAT THING ABOUT MCKINNEY AS WE PROBABLY HAD. 3 TO 5 VOLUNTEERS FOR EVERY ATHLETE THAT WE HAD OUT THERE BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST COME OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE A GREAT DAY. AND IF YOU WANT TO FEEL GOOD, COME ON OUT AND SPEND SOME TIME AT SPECIAL OLYMPICS. I KNOW MOST OF THE COUNCIL WILL BE THERE THAT MORNING. AND TO MY FRIENDS ON THE COUNSELOR, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, IT FINALLY HAPPENED. HERE IN MCKINNEY. I WENT INTO ONE OF OUR CHICK FIL A ESTABLISHMENTS AND I WON'T TELL YOU WHICH ONE BUT THE YOUNG MAN AT THE COUNTER WAS QUITE NICE TO ME, AND WHEN I FINISHED MY ORDER, HE LOOKED AT ME AND HE SAID, SO. WOULD YOU LIKE YOUR SENIOR DISCOUNT? AND I CLOSE THEM DOWN NEXT WEEK, SO BIG. THAT THAT I DIDN'T SAY A WORD AND HE APPLIED IT. NICE AWESOME. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. COMMENTS THANK YOU. TO REAL QUICK REMINDERS. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HOSTING FOLKS THIS WEEKEND AND HISTORIC DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY FOR THE ANNUAL ARTS AND BLOOM FESTIVAL THAT IS THIS WEEKEND EVENT BEGINS THIS FRIDAY . APRIL 8TH AND FEATURES FINE ARTISTS, MUSICIANS, TEXAS WINERIES AND FOOD VENDORS. WE'RE ALSO PROUD TO HOST ONCE AGAIN AS YOU PROBABLY HAVE HEARD A LITTLE SOMETHING ABOUT IT. THE AT AND T BYRON NELSON TOURNAMENT MAY 12TH TO 15TH AT TPC CRAIG RANCH, YOU CAN BUY TICKETS ONLINE NOW. AT 80 AND T. BYRON NELSON. THAT'S ONE WORD 80. BYRON NELSON .ORG. GREAT EVENT. LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR. YES, PLEASE. I'M SORRY. THIS SUNDAY AT 11 A.M. WE'RE GONNA BE DOING GOING OUT TO NEW OUTREACH CHURCH , WHICH IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF MENTIONED THIS BEFORE. DURING BLACK HISTORY MONTH IT WAS AN EVENT THAT WAS RESCHEDULED. WE ARE GOING INTO SUPPORT THIS CHURCH THAT HELPS TO SERVE THE EAST SIDE BY PROVIDING REALLY FREE WEDDINGS AND FUNERALS FOR
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FOLKS WHO JUST CANNOT AFFORD IT, SO WE WANT TO SHOW THEM OUR SUPPORT OUR FINANCIAL SUPPORT OUR PHYSICAL SUPPORT OUR YOU KNOW MORAL SUPPORT FOR THEM. SO IF YOU ARE FREE AT 11 A.M, PLEASE GO TO OUR WEBSITE WWW. MCKINNEY BH M .COM THERE IS AN EVENTBRITE TO REGISTER AFTER IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THAT SERVICE WILL BE PROVIDING FOOD SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND, UM, FELLOWSHIP WITH THEIR CONGREGATION THERE AS WELL. POSSUM. UM I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT MAINLY AND I JOINED JUST FOR A SONG, THE BIKINI HIGH SCHOOL JAZZ ORCHESTRA AND HOW IMPRESSIVE THAT BAND IS FULL ORCHESTRA. THEY HAD A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE PERFORMING. I CONFIRMED. I KIND OF FELT THIS WAY. AND I THOUGHT THIS ABOUT MYSELF, BUT I WAS ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT NIGHT THAT I ACTUALLY AM NOT A JAZZ ORCHESTRA GUITAR PLAYER. I FOUND THAT OUT ON GUITAR PLAYER FOR ROCK AND ROLL AND TEXTS MOVES, BUT BUT I AM THAT IS NOT MY THING. SADLY.AH! CHARLIE I YOU KNOW, I WAS AT A RESTAURANT NOT TOO LONG AGO IN MY WIFE WHO TURNS A CERTAIN AGE , UM, IS GOING TO BE FOUR YEARS OLDER THAN ME AND ON THE 14TH. SO I WILL NOT BE AT THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS, THOUGH. I'VE BEEN THERE EVERY SINGLE TIME I MISS IT THIS TIME, SO I'M TAKING OUT OF TOWN. BUT I DID ASK FOR A SENIOR DISCOUNT BASED ON HER AGE AND I WILL NEVER AGAIN ASK THAT.
THAT WAS APPARENTLY NOT SOMETHING I'M NOT. YEAH, IT'S APPARENTLY FOR SOME REASON, THAT'S THAT'S INCONSIDERATE. THAT WAS RUDE. I MEAN, A LOT OF ADJECTIVES. I DIDN'T REALLY CATCH BUT APPARENTLY NOT THE THING TO DO ALSO SO WITH THAT MOTION TO ADJOURN SOME MOVED ALL FAVOR. I
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