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RIGHT. GOOD. YOU KNOW? GOOD EVENING AT SIX PM, WELCOME TO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY'S PLANNING
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HIS OWN COMMISSION MEETING OF TUESDAY FOR THE 12TH. 2022 THE COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU SEE SEATED BEFORE YOU HAVE BEEN APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. AND WE SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THAT SAME CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU EVER HEAR TONIGHT AND WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS.UM ONE OF OUR PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS OR IN ANY OTHER OPPORTUNITY WHEN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, FILL OUT ONE OF THE YELLOW CARDS. WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THE ITEM THAT YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON. GIVE THAT TO ONE OF THE STAFF MEMBERS IN THE FRONT ROW. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS WITH US. WE DO APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE CITIZENS ARE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. WE WILL ADHERE CLOSELY TO THE THREE MINUTES UM RULE. UM PLEASE TREAT EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT AND FOCUS ON THE ISSUES AND WILL BRAD HERE A DECENT HOUR TONIGHT. PENDING THE STORMS, WHICH WE DON'T CONTROL. THE FIRST ITEM TONIGHT WILL BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE TO SPEAK ON A NON PUBLIC HEARING. ADAM THAT'S ONLY AGENDA. AN EXAMPLE OF THAT WOULD BE THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING. SO IS THERE ANYONE HERE TONIGHT? I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A ITEM THAT DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED. ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNE WOULD BE TO SPEAK IN ONE OF THE PLANT CONSIDERATIONS WE HAVE TONIGHT.
ALRIGHT SEEING AND WE'LL MOVE TO ARE CONSIDERED INTO THE FIRST ITEM WILL NEED A MOTION ON THE CONSIDER AGENDA. WHO'S DOING THE UPDATE. JENNIFER. FIRST ITEM WILL BE 22 DAYS. 0317. THIS IS
[Update on 2022 McKinney Board & Commission Member Appointments]
AN UPDATE ON THE 2022. MCKINNEY AWARDED COMMISSION MEMBER APPOINTMENTS. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. CATS. I'M IN FRUSTRATION. CITY SECRETARY. THIS IS A QUICK UPDATE TO REMIND THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE PLAN AND ZONING COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE GREATER PUBLIC OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE ON THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS OF OUR CITY. ON AUGUST 23RD OF THIS YEAR, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL APPOINT MEMBERS TO THE VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IN THIS PROCESS THAT WE'RE BEGINNING TO ENDEAVOR IS THE PERIOD OF APPLICATIONS FOR ANYONE WHO IS INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THE BOARD, WHICH INCLUDES OUR INCUMBENT MEMBERS. IT IS AN ONLINE APPLICATION IS AVAILABLE ON THE CITY WEB PAGES PROVIDED IN THIS TEXT FILE, AND IT'S ALSO AVAILABLE IN PAPER FORM TO ANYONE WHO REQUESTED FROM THE CITY SECRETARY OFFICE. FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WHICH IS CURRENTLY BOARD MEMBERS ARE APPOINTED TO TWO YEAR TERMS FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE CONSECUTIVE TERMS. THERE ARE TWO MEMBERS OF YOUR COMMISSION, WHO ARE SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE THIS YEAR, AND THERE ARE ALSO ELIGIBLE FOR REAPPOINTMENT. THAT WOULD BE A COMMISSIONER TAYLOR IS WELL IS OUR ALTERNATE HEGSTROM. ARE TWO OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO EXPIRE IN 2022 , OR COMMISSIONER DOPE AS WELL AS KIRK AND ALL WHO HAVE MET THEIR TERM LIMITS OF THREE CONSECUTIVE TERMS ON ANY BOARD OR COMMISSION. SO ANY BOARD OR COMMISSION OF THE CITY? YES WE'RE GOING BACK. 14 YEARS FROM YES, SIR. UM ARE REMAINING FORCING COMMISSION MEMBERS ALL HAVE TERMS THAT EXPIRE IN 2023. SO AT THAT TIME, WE'LL REVISIT THIS TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE INFORMATION ON THE PROCESS. SO IN CLOSING, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY IS INCREDIBLY VALUED AND WE ALL APPRECIATE IT. I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. QUESTION OF THE CITY OF SECRETARY JUST CLARIFIED SO YOU CAN ONLY DO THREE TERMS A YEAR AGO AS A SWITCHBOARD. YES SIR. THAT IS CORRECT. AND WITH THAT THAT WOULD MEAN THAT ANYONE, INCLUDING YOURSELF, WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY.REAPPLY FOR EMPLOYMENT IN THIS PERIOD THAT YOU ARE ELIGIBLE TO REAPPLY NEXT YEAR. GET A VACATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR RAIN. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. NEXT
[CONSENT ITEMS]
TIME WILL BE ACTION ON THE MINUTES, WHICH IS AND THE CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT TO DEATH 0318 THE MINUTES OF THE PLAYING HIS OWN COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING. MARCH 22ND 2022 MEMBERS QUESTIONS MOTIONS. MOTION. WE APPROVE THE MINUTES SECOND MOTION MAN, MR WOODRUFF THAT WE APPROVED THE MINUTES OF THE MARCH 22ND 2022 MEETING AND SECOND BY MR WATLEY IS IN YOUR DISCUSSION. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THE MOTION CARRIES ABOUT FIVE OUT OF SEVEN AND FAVORITE[00:05:02]
ZERO AGAINST THE NEXT ITEM WILL BE PLANT CONSIDERATION. STEP DOWN. TERRY MR TAYLOR STEPPING[Consider/Discuss/Act on a Preliminary-Final Plat for Ridgeline Addition, Located on the South Side of County Road 1006 and West of County Road 201]
DOWN ON THE FIRST ITEM 22 DAYS, 037 PF. I WILL NOW TAKE UP TO TWO DAYS. 037 PF CONSIDER.PRELIMINARY FINAL PLANT FOR A RIDGELINE EDITION. THIS IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF COUNTY ROAD, 1006 THE WEST. SIGN OF COUNTY ROAD TWO. OH ONE, SCHRADER. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. LEXI SCHRADER PLANNER ONCE SO THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A PROPOSED THREE FINAL PLOT FOR THE ORIGINAL. IN ADDITION FOR 652, SINGLE FAMILY, LOTS AND OUR IT J. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DISAPPROVAL OF THE PRE FINAL PLAY AT THIS TIME DUE TO THE LACK OF CONFORMANCE WITH THE ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL AND THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, AND I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
LIKE SEEN AS THE APPLICANT KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A DENIAL. OR DISAPPROVAL RECOMMENDATION.
STILL ACTIVELY WORKING TO GET THROUGH THAT. YES, SIR. VERY GOOD. QUESTIONS ANYONE VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. MOTION. MOVED TO DISAPPROVED. PLATT CONSIDERATION DUE TO LACK OF PERFORMANCE. OF EMOTION MEMBERS DEMANDS I, TOO DISAPPROVED OF THE ITEM DIDN'T LIKE HIM.
CONFORMANCE 2ND 2ND BY MR DUCK. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THIS MOTION CARRIES SIX IN FAVOR AND ZERO AGAINST NEXT ITEM. NEXT ANIMALS TO TWO DAYS. 039 PF CONSIDERED
[Consider/Discuss/Act on a Preliminary-Final Plat for Painted Tree Woodlands East Addition, Located Northeast Corner of Future Wilmeth Road and Future Taylor Burk Drive]
PRELIMINARY FINAL PLANT FOR PAINTED TREE WOODLANDS EAST EDITION THIS IS ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF FUTURE WILMOTH ROAD AND FUTURE. TAYLOR BURKE. DR SHEFFIELD. THANK YOU. SO APPLICANTS PROPOSING TO SUBDIVIDE APPROXIMATELY 100 AND 45 ACRES OF LAND. GENERALLY FOR 429, SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND 11 COMMON AREAS. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS. CONDITIONS ARE NOTED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, AND I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.QUESTIONS. NONE. CAITLIN. THANK YOU. MEMBERS HAVE EMOTION ON THE SUN. PLANT. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS AS NOTED IN STAFF REPORT. EMOTIONAL DAMAGE REMAINS I TO IMPROVE THE ATOM AS PER CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT SECONDS SECOND BY MR WOODRUFF. IN YOUR DISCUSSION, PLEASE CAST YOUR ABOUT. A VOTE OF SEVEN IN FAVOR AND ZERO AGAINST THE ITEM HAS BEEN APPROVED. WHEN I MOVED FOR OUR REGULAR AGENDA, THESE WOULD BE ITEMS WITH PUBLIC HEARINGS
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request by the City of McKinney to Amend Chapter 146 (Zoning Regulations), Appendix G (MTC - McKinney Town Center Zoning District) of the Code of Ordinances]
ATTACHED TO SO PLEASE PAY ATTENTION. FIRST ITEM 22 DAYS. 0002 M TWO PUBLIC HEARING REQUEST TO ACT BY THE CITY OF MCKINNEY TO AMEND CHAPTER 1 46 ZONING REGULATIONS. APPENDIX G.MCKINNEY TOWN CENTER. ZONING DISTRICT OF THE CODE IMPORTANCE IS THE HONORABLE JENNIFER ARNOLD, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING. THANK YOU, MR COX. THIS ITEM AS YOU READ IS TO CONSIDER AN AMENDMENT TO THE MTC ZONING DISTRICT. THAT'S THE DOWNTOWN FORM BASED CODE. AS YOU ALL KNOW , WITHIN THAT MTC ZONING DISTRICT. THERE ARE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF THAT CODE. THAT ALSO CURRENTLY INCLUDES CONSIDERATIONS FOR MODIFICATIONS TO BUILDING HEIGHTS, GIVEN SOME OF THE ACTIVITY AND REDEVELOPMENT GROWTH THAT WE ARE SEEING ON THE EAST SIDE OF MCKINNEY STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT CONSIDERATION FOR BUILDING HEIGHTS SHIFT FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. TO THE CITY COUNCIL , GIVEN THAT THOSE CAN SOMETIMES BE QUITE CONTENTIOUS AND IMPACTFUL FOREIGN AREA SO OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO MODIFY THAT CODE JUST TO SHIFT THAT DESIGN EXCEPTION CONSIDERATION. FROM P AND Z TO CITY COUNCIL ONLY FOR BUILDING HEIGHTS. ALL OTHER DESIGN EXCEPTIONAL REQUEST STILL COME TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.
ANYONE. AND THERE'S NO WAY SHE'S GETTING OFF THAT EASY. SO, BUILDING HEIGHT. HAVE YOU HAD A PROBLEM IN DOWNTOWN TOO? CREATE THIS. WE HAVE NOT. IN FACT, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANYBODY PURSUE A DESIGN EXCEPTION FOR BUILDING HEIGHT. AS OF YET, HOWEVER, WE HAVE HAD SOME INTEREST IN THAT.
UM, AND IT RANGES FROM MODEST INCREASES TO SOME ARE QUITE SIZABLE, AND GIVEN THAT THERE IS A LARGE RANGE OF CONSIDERATION THAT COULD BE IN PLAY, AND WE FELT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MIGHT WANT TO HAVE ULTIMATE OVERSIGHT ON THAT PARTICULAR TYPE OF REQUEST. VERY GOOD. ANYONE ELSE
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? THANK YOU, MR ARNOLD. I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. AND IF YOU COME TONIGHT, OVER AND LOCKED AWAY IN ON THESE CHAPTER 1 46 PROPOSED CHANGES. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. ONLY COMMISSION THAT BECAUSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVED THIS ITEM AS PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION, PROMOTIONAL MR KIRKENDALL TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ANIMUS FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. SECOND BY MR TAYLOR. YOU NEED DISCUSSION. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THIS ITEM HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION. YEAH WE GOT THAT RIGHT HERE. IN MY LITTLE NOTES. THIS ITEM WILL BE SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION. FOR FINAL LECTURE BY THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE MAY 3RD 2022 CITY COUNCIL[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit for Automobile Dealership Sales (Best Price Auto Group), Located at 751 North Central Expressway]
MEETING. THE NEXT ITEM. 22-00 ISSUE P A PUBLIC HEARING REQUEST. TO ACT ON A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AUTOMOBILE DEALERSHIP SALES. BEST PRICE AUTO GROUP, THIS IS AT 751 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY. MR BENNETT? YES THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN COX. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. JAKE BENNETT, PLANNER. ONE OF THE CITY MCKINNEY. THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS AN APPLICATION TO ALLOW AUTOMOBILE CELLS ON THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF US 75 BOW DARK ROAD. THE ZONING DISTRICT. SEE PLANTS CENTER REQUIRES AN S U P TO OPERATE AND AUTO AND AUTO DEALERSHIP. THIS ITEM HAS PREVIOUSLY COME BEFORE PNC IN CITY COUNCIL DURING MEETINGS LAST OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER. HERE. MM. THE CITY OF MCKINNEY CITY COUNCIL IN 2018 HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS REGARDING CONCERNS. TO THE PREVALENCE OF AUTO RELATED USES ALONG THE CITY'S MAJOR CORRIDORS, THE KEY TAKEAWAYS THAT CAME OUT OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND RELATE TO THIS CASE ARE DIRECTIVES TO DISCOURAGE THE PROLIFERATION OF AUTOMOBILE CELLS ALONG MAJOR THOROUGHFARES AND PRESERVE US 75 STATE HIGHWAY 1 21 FOR USES THAT ENHANCE MCKINNEY'S PRESENCE.ALONG THESE MAJOR CORRIDORS. CURRENTLY LESS THAN A MILE FROM THIS LOCATION STAFF HAS FOUND THAT THERE ARE SEVEN VEHICLE DEAL DEALERSHIPS WITH PROMINENT FRONTAGE TO US 75. THERE WAS SEVEN VEHICLE DEALERSHIPS TAKE UP ROUGHLY ONE THIRD. OF THE ENTIRE FRONTAGE IN THAT SPIN AND ARE HOUSED ON A COMBINED 67 ACRES. WHILE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES REGARDING THE BUILDING AND THE LAYOUT OF THE SITE ITSELF, THE PROPOSED LAND USE HAS NOT CHANGED AND IT IS BECAUSE OF THE LAND USE, THE STAFF MUST RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE SCP REQUEST. STAFF HAS RECEIVED ONE LETTER OF OPPOSITION TO THIS APPLICATION. AND THAT LETTER HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO ALL OF YOU AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT. PALESTINE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
QUESTIONS THUS FAR OF STAFF, JAKE THANK YOU VERY MUCH AS OUR APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT. UM MR CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION ON BOB ROEDER 1700 RED BUDS SUITE 300 IN MCKINNEY ON BEHALF OF THE AFRICA. WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT THIS IS NOT THE SAME CASE THAT CAME BEFORE THIS BODY OR THE CITY COUNCIL LAST YEAR. THIS IS A SEPARATE APPLICATION FOR AN SUV. AH! SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. AND I THINK I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE TO YOU THAT THIS IS A SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT PROJECT AND WHAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE. WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL.
DECIDED TO CHANGE AUTOMOTIVE USE FROM A PERMITTED USE AND PLANNED CENTER. AND DESIGNATE THAT IT HAD TO GO THROUGH THE SGP PROCESS. I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY DID THAT NOT TO PROHIBIT THAT USE. BUT TO GIVE YOU AND THE CITY COUNCIL THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THESE PROPOSED USES ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T ADVERSELY AFFECT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. THAT I DON'T ADVERSELY AFFECT THE LOOK AND FEEL OF 75, WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL BELIEVES IS OVERRUN WITH CAR DEALERSHIPS. AND THAT IF YOU HAVE A CASE THAT COMES BEFORE YOU THAT MEETS THESE CRITERIA. THEN IT'S. IT CAN BE APPROVED. IT'S NOT AUTOMATICALLY DENIED. SO I WANT TO FOCUS FOR A SECOND ON THIS PARTICULAR TRACK . THIS IS ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 3.7 ACRE TRACT. AS YOU'VE ALL
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SEEN IN YOUR PACKAGE. BUT LESS THAN HALF OF IT PROBABLY A LITTLE OVER AN ACRES ACTUALLY USABLE. BECAUSE IT HAS JEANS CREEK ALONG THE WEST SIDE. AND BY THE TIME YOU APPLY THE EROSION HAZARD SETBACK. THE GENES CREEK IN THIS LOCATION. YOU HAVE ONLY ABOUT 150 FT. OF DEPTH TO THE PROPERTY FOR DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT. ON WHAT CAN GO THERE. IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR TYPICAL PAD SIDE FOR RETAIL OR FAST FOOD. THAT'S A 300 FT DEPTH. WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR TYPICAL STRIP RETAIL THAT'S ALSO A 250 TO 50 FT DEPTH AND YOU UNDERSTAND AND IN MCKINNEY, AND I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT IT. WHEN YOU PUT A COMMERCIAL BUILDING UP THERE, YOU BASICALLY GOT TO PUT A FIRE LINE ALL THE WAY AROUND IT. SO WHAT YOU SEE UP HERE? IS A ABOUT I MUST SAY 40% OF THE PROPERTY. IT'S GOT A 15,700 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING ON IT. IT'S A LONG AND THEY'RE A BUILDING. BUT THAT BUILDING, ACCORDING TO MY CLIENTS, ENGINEER IS THE LARGEST FOOTPRINT OF A BUILDING THAT YOU CAN PUT ON THIS SITE. AND MEET THE LANDSCAPE SETBACKS, THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, THE FIRE LINES AND EVERYTHING. SO TO START WITH, I'M GOING TO SAY TO YOU THAT THIS IS NOT YOUR TYPICAL 56 10 ACRE AUTOMOBILE DEALERSHIPS SITE. IT'S A ONE ACRE LITTLE OVER ONE ACRE SIDE THAT HAS A LARGE BUILDING THAT TAKES UP THE WHOLE SIDE. SO WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE ISSUE HERE? EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT AUTOMOTIVE USES. BUT I SUBMIT TO YOU. THAT'S THE WRONG THING TO THINK ABOUT. I WAS IN PLANO WEST. THIS LAST WEEKEND. AND GUESS WHAT I SAW. THERE'S A TESLA AUTOMOBILE CAR SALES STOREFRONT. ON MAIN STREET. IN PLANO WEST. THAT TELLS ME THAT IT'S NOT THE AUTOMOTIVE AUTOMOTIVE SALES USE. ABOUT WHICH PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED OR THE COUNCIL. IT'S THE WAY IT LOOKS AND THE WAY IT FEELS. NOW ALSO REMEMBER THAT UNDER PLANNED CENTER IN THIS LOCATION YOU CAN HAVE AN AUTOMOBILE GARAGE. YOU CAN HAVE A. CAR WASH. YOU CAN HAVE A LOOP CENTER. YOU CAN HAVE A MAINTENANCE FACILITY WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE AN SUV. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THE S U P PROCESS BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW IF YOU APPROVE AN SUV IN MY CLIENT HAS TO BUILD THIS PROPERTY OUT EXACTLY OR MATERIALLY. AS IS SHOWN ON THE PLAN. SO LET'S LOOK AT THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE HERE FOR A SECOND. WE'VE GOT THIS 15,000 SQUARE FOOT PLUS BUILDING. THIS BUILDING IS INTENDED TO BE OFFICES, BUT INTERIOR SHOWROOMS. THINK OF TESLA. WHERE'S PLAY NOW? THERE ARE ONLY 14 DESIGNATED PARKING SPACES FOR OUTSIDE AUTO DISPLAY. ONLY 14. AND THOSE LOOK TO ME LIKE A REGULAR HEAD IN PARKING FOR AN OFFICE BUILDING. BALANCE OF THE PARKING SPACES YOU SEE AROUND THERE OR REQUIRED BY CITY CODE BASED UPON THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING. THEY'RE GOING TO NEED THAT NUMBER OF SPACES TO CONDUCT THEIR BUSINESS. PROBABLY NOT. BUT IT'S A CITY CODE REQUIREMENT . SO MANY SPACES SPACE FOR SO MANY SQUARE FEET OF BUILDING. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE ALL THE BALANCE OF THOSE SPACES AROUND THERE. WHAT YOU DON'T SEE IN THIS PLAN. YOU DON'T SEE A SEA OF CONCRETE WITH MULTIPLE ROWS OF DISPLAY AUTOMOBILES, BIG LIGHTS, FLAGS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS. THE PROPOSAL IS TO BUILD A BUILDING THAT LOOKS AND FEELS MORE LIKE A COMMERCIAL, NON RETAIL BUILDING , SINGLE STORY COMMERCIAL NON RETAIL BUILDING. YEP IT IS. TO LOOK IN FEEL. AUTOMOBILE SALES. PROCESS. AH, FACILITY. AND YET, THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. SO I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT THE S U P PROCESS HERE. IS DESIGNED TO FIT PRECISELY WHAT IS BEFORE YOU AND THAT IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AUTO SALES. IN A UNIQUE ENVIRONMENT.AUTO SALES. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE CAR DEALERSHIPS THAT COMPRISED OF 26, OR 29% OF THE LANDMASS AROUND 75. IN FACT, WE'RE TAKING UP A LITTLE OVER AN ACRE, RIGHT? THAT'S ALL WE'RE
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ADDING TO THE ADDING TO THE MIX. SO I ENCOURAGE YOU. TO APPROVE THIS. UM AGAIN, WE HAVE TO BUILD PRECISELY WHAT'S SHOWN ON THE PLAN. WE CAN'T CHANGE IT MIDSTREAM. BUT I THINK THAT THIS MEETS ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS. TO APPROVE AN SUV OR RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF AN SUV. I CAN GO ON LONGER, BUT I'M GOING TO STOP RIGHT HERE BECAUSE I THINK I'VE MADE MY POINT. SO LET ME LET ME ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. ANYONE. SO ACCORDING WORSHIP SELLS INVENTORY, WHICH IS CARS. WE HAVE SET UP FOR ABOUT 14 CARS ALONG THE FRONT SHOWROOM. THIS GREAT BUILDING. WHICH I REALLY THINK IT'S POSITIVE, RIGHT? I THINK IT'S YOUR MAXIMIZING THE SITE WILL BE GOOD, AVELAR, UM, TAX TO THAT SITE AS WE GO FORWARD. EXPLAIN HOW THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING IS GOING TO WORK AS WE HAVE 14 SHOWCASE SPACES HERE IS THE INSIDE OF THIS BUILDING WILL BE DESIGNED WITH 20 CARS INSIDE. IS IT GOING TO BE 35? TESLA HAS 35 INSIDE. SO JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE INSIDE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE VERSUS I GOT THE PICTURE OF THE OUTSIDE AND I'M TRYING TO FIX IT INSIDE. THE INSIDE IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO HAVE SOME OFFICES, SALES ROOMS AND SALES OFFICE AND STUFF, BUT PRIMARILY THE INSIDE IS GOING TO BE OPEN SPACE WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE DISPLAYED BUT THERE THERE WOULD BE MORE CARS, PROBABLY IN THE R AT LEAST AS MANY CARS IN THE INTERIOR SPACES. WHAT WOULD BE IN THE EXTERIOR PARKING SPACES? MY CLIENT MADE A COMMENT TO MAKE ON THE WAY IN HERE, AND YOU AND I HAD A DISCUSSION. THERE'S A STORM COMING. YOU KNOW? HOW MUCH BETTER WILL IT BE FOR HIS BUSINESS TO BE ABLE TO KEEP HIS CARS IN A COVERED CONDITIONED SPACE THAN TO HAVE THEM OUT LIKE EVERY OTHER CAR DEALERSHIP THAT WE HAVE AROUND HERE. SO THAT'S THE GOAL. WITH THE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. TAKE THE LAST TIME THAT WE TOOK A LOOK AT THIS KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING WHERE THERE MIGHT BE A GARAGE OR BAY AREA HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT OR IS THIS DEALING? THERE ARE NO BAD. THEY THERE ARE GARAGE. DOOR. ARE OPEN. THAT ALLOW CARS. TO BE DRIVEN. IN. THERE'S NO PROVISION IN THE BUILDING FOR THAT. THERE YEAH, I WANT TO BE CLEAR THERE MIGHT BE MAKE ALREADY. YOU KNOW THEY MIGHT DETAIL THE CAR. WAX IT. YOU KNOW THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT THERE WON'T BE ANY ENGINE REPAIR ANY CARD ANY TIRES CHANGED OR ANYTHING? ANYONE ELSE? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, MR ROEDER. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ADAM IF YOU COME TONIGHT AND WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS PROPOSED ISSUE P. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. YES, SIR. DONE THIS EVENING. MY NAME IS ALEX CHAPMAN. I AM A NEIGHBOR RIGHT ACROSS FROM JEANS CREEK AT 3 TO 3 BOAT DARK PLACE. I'M DIRECTLY BEHIND IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT STREET ON BOTH DARK UM, I GUESS AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S A DEALERSHIP. IT WAS CLASSIFIED AS IT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE SOME TYPE OF POTENTIAL.OT DEALERSHIP. DRUM SEEING. DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT WOULD BE A TESLA LIKE IT'S NOT A AH! A FORD OR DODGE DEALERSHIP. IT LOOKS LIKE THIS COULD BE SOME POTENTIAL USE OF USED CAR LOT.
IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. UM AS FAR AS THE PRESENTATION THAT I WAS ABLE TO REVIEW ON THE ONLINE. I DIDN'T REALLY GET TO SEE AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE MINISTRATIONS. OF THE BUILDING.
UH YOU KNOW WHAT TYPE OF MATERIALS WHAT THE COLOR IS. ALL WE KNOW IS THAT IT COULD BE HOT PINK. I DON'T KNOW. THERE COULD BE MULTICOLORED. UM WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR THE VERNACULAR OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND, YOU KNOW. THE AESTHETICS. YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT EFFECTS WILL IT GET? YOU KNOW WILL ENHANCE IT WILL DETERMINE WHAT IS WHAT WOULD IT BE? UM, AS WE KNOW. YOU'RE COMING TO AND FROM ON 75 YOUR FRONT DOOR BACK DOOR TO THE KIDNEY. OUR DEALERSHIPS, SERGEANT STATED. YOU KNOW WHAT? WHY? ANOTHER DEALERSHIP? YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THERE MIGHT BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, YOU KNOW . GRANTED THERE ARE CONSTRAINTS TO THE SITE. BUT SETBACKS. BUT HAS THERE BEEN OTHER OPPORTUNITIES OR ANYTHING COMING FORWARD OTHER THAN JUST THE DEALERSHIP. IS THERE ANY VARIANCES THAT THE CITY WOULD ALLOW? FOR RETAIL WITH PARKING SPACES. OR ANY OTHER, YOU KNOW, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS OR ACCOMMODATIONS FOR CUSTOMERS.
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THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. MR CHAIRMAN WILL HAVE SOMEONE COME UP AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.YOU BET. ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ADAM TONIGHT. LIKE MOTION CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU EMOTIONAL IMAGE. TWO MAIN ZIONIST SECOND MINISTER WOULD HAVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HIS CAST YOUR VOTE. THE MOTION CARRIES A PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED. NOW MEMBERS WILL HAVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR MR BENNETT. I WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST. MR DUKE. WELL, I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE TOWARDS THE APPLICANT BOMB. SO IN. LOOKING AT THE OVERALL LAYOUT. UM I DO THINK IT'S A GOOD LAYOUT, BUT I CAN'T REALLY TELL OFF OF THE DESIGN. THE TREES THAT ARE BEHIND THIS BUILDING SEPARATING THE RESIDENTIAL FROM THE DEALERSHIP ITSELF. UM NO, NO WORK IS GOING TO BE DONE INSIDE THAT OLD TREES. EVERYTHING IS LEFT ALONE, NO CLEAR CUTTING. ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S CORRECT GOT AN EROSION HAZARD. SETBACK THAT ACTUALLY, I THINK GOES BEYOND THE TREE MASS THERE.
AND THAT'S DELINEATED WITH. WITH THE DARK LINE IS NOT HASHED, I GUESS IS THE BEST WAY TO SAY IT.
BUT NO, THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY TREES DISTURBED. SO OTHER THAN MIKE RADIOS TO MAKE READY GOING TO TAKE PLACE INSIDE THE BUILDING OR OUTSIDE THE BUILDING , IT WOULD BE INSIDE BE ON IN A LIMITED SITUATION. BUT THE ONLY OTHER CONCERNS THAT I COULD SEE IS PERHAPS THE LIGHTING ON THE BACK HALF OF THE PROPERTY FACING THE GREEN BELT. I TAKE IT THERE WILL BE ALWAYS SHINING TOWARDS THE BUILDING, NOT GOING BACKWARDS TOWARDS RESIDENTIAL UT SPECIFICALLY, EXCEPT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS A LIGHTING AND GLARE ORDINANCE, AND WE CAN'T DIRECT, LIGHT, SAID NEIGHBORHOOD PROPERTIES. MOST OF THE TREES. AS I RECALL IN THAT AREA, I LIVED ON WESTPORT DRIVE YEARS AND YEARS AGO. THAT'S A PRETTY TALL TREE MASS AS I RECALL BACK THERE, AND THEY'RE GONNA BE LARGER TALLER THAN THE BUILDING. AND SO I'M ASSUMING THAT PREDOMINANTLY YOU'D HAVE A COUPLE OF BUILDING MOUNTED LIGHTS BACK THERE. THANK YOU AND I WANT TO ADD SINCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY ITSELF. YOU KNOW 75 CAME BACK. 1960 7 68. THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN THERE AND DEVELOPED SINCE THAT PERIOD OF TIME. SO IT HAS SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT ISSUES.
THANK YOU FOR THROWING THAT IN. TIME I GET A CHANCE, OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.
THANK YOU, MR ROEDER. JAKE, COULD YOU. COME UP HERE, PLEASE . DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF CITY STAFF? TO THE RESIDENTS CONCERNS AS FAR AS SOME OF THE ITEMS NOTED, UM, OF COURSE WE ADDRESS THE LIGHTING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY PROTECTING RESIDENTS ON THAT SIDE AS THE FACADE CITY NO LONGER CAN CONTROL FACADE BY STATE LAW THAT WAS PASSED RIGHT . THAT'S CORRECT. WE CAN ONLY CONTROL IT WITHIN THE HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT AREA SO AROUND THE DOWNTOWN, PRIMARILY OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. WE CANNOT IT WAS SOMETHING TAKEN AWAY FROM BOSTON FROM LOCAL CONTROL. OTHER QUESTIONS. HIM A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR STUFF. SO UM, IN HERE, YOU GUYS ARE RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THIS CORRECT. OKAY IN THE APPLICANT, UM ARGUED THAT THIS IS A SPECIAL CONSIDERATION THAT THIS POTENTIALLY THEY BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD MEET WITH THE PURPOSE OF THE UPS AND THE CITY. CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF THEIR AS PART OF THIS CONSIDERATION FOR DENIAL, WE DID. AND AS FAR AS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LAST ISSUE P APPLICATION IN THIS ONE.
THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENCES AS FAR AS THE SITE LAYOUT IN THE BUILDING, HOWEVER, THE LAND USE ITSELF DID NOT CHANGE. AND THAT COUNCIL DIRECTIVE IS BECAUSE OF THAT LAND. USE AND THERE'S ALSO AN OVER CONCENTRATION. IN THE AREA. ALONG U. S 75 CORRIDOR. AND SO THAT KIND OF TRUMPS THE SITE LAYOUT ITSELF AS TO WHY WE WOULD RECOMMEND DENIAL, UM, AS TO APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION.
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SO IT'S HIGHLY LIKELY YOU'D RECOMMEND IT NOW FOR ANY CAR DEALERSHIP COMING TO TOWN RIGHT NOW. YES ALONG THE MAJOR CORRIDORS FOR THE COUNCIL DIRECTIVE MATTER WHERE THE SITE WOULD BE. WELL IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? THE CITY LOOKS AS CONCENTRATION ON BECAUSE THIS IE WE BRING UP CONCENTRATION ON CAR DEALERS. WE DON'T SEEM TO BRING IT UP ON DRUG STORES OR BANKS.SO WE'RE STORAGE AND I JUST WANT TO CHIME IN. THAT IS LOUD. I'M SORRY. I KNOW THAT MR BENNETT DID MENTION OVER CONCENTRATION, AND THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. BUT THE THING THAT STAFF IS, I GUESS HANGING OUR HAT ON IS THAT DIRECTIVE WE HAD A VERY CLEAR DIRECTIVE FROM THE COUNCIL. U DIRECTIVE CHANGES FROM COUNSEL FOR US, WE FEEL AS THOUGH WE HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THAT FROM FROM THEM. IT'S INTERESTING TO SAY, BECAUSE IN THE SAME BREATH, CARWASH CAME UP AND ASKED TO BE PUT THERE. THERE'S NOTHING THERE'S TRULY NO DIFFERENCE. IN MY OPINION, YOU HAVE A LOUDER SITUATION WITH A LUBE CENTER OR A CAR WASH VERSUS WHAT IS LOOKING TO GO THERE. SO IF THOSE WERE TO COME AND WANT TO GET BUILT THERE AND I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. BUT THERE BE THAT SAME PUSHBACK. I DON'T BELIEVE SO. THE IF THERE WAS A CAR WASH TO COME IN. I BELIEVE IT IS ALLOWED IN THE SEAT PLANT CENTER. THE COUNCIL DIRECTIVE IS PRIMARILY FOR AUTOMOBILE SALES ON THAT, IF THEY'RE ALLOWED BY RIGHT STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIVE RECOMMENDATION OR OPINION. IT'S IF IT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT. WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO ALLOW IT BY. THAT WE'RE REALLY I MEAN, WE CAN PLAY THE WHAT IF GAME AND WHAT ELSE COULD GO IN THERE? BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS.
AND IS THIS THE BEST USE FOR THAT? AND THAT'S THAT SPACE BASED ON WHAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO US DIRECTIVES THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED DOWN FROM COUNCIL. ANYONE ELSE? NO MATTER THE DECISION HERE. THIS IS SIMPLY RECOMMENDATION AND THIS WILL GO BEFORE COUNCIL. CORRECT YES. THE ULTIMATE APPROVAL BODY OF THE S U. P IS CITY COUNCIL AND THE DIFFERENCE BEING IF WE VOTED DENIAL, IT TAKES A SUPER MAJORITY. AND IF WE VOTE TO APPROVE, IT TAKES A SIMPLE MAJORITY OF EITHER PASS OR. DISAPPROVED OR DENIAL. IT WOULD BE A 6 TO 1 VOTE REQUIRED AND OVER TOBER IN ORDER TO OVERTURN THAT DECISION. ARE THERE QUESTIONS COMMENTS? THANK YOU, JAKE, AND WE APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT. PROBABLY ONE OF THE OLDEST PEOPLE ON THIS COMMISSION. AND I REMEMBER GROWING UP AND THERE WAS A PLACE IN GARLAND, TEXAS COLLEGE. THE MONEY SAVING MILES. AND I JUST HAD CAR DEALERSHIPS UP AND DOWN THE STREET. WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENED ON HIGHWAY FIVE IN ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF.
THERE'S ABOUT SEVEN USED CAR LOTS THERE. WE GOT TIRE SHOPS THERE. I THINK THAT. IF WE KEEP LETTING ONE MORE AND ONE MORE IT IS ENOUGH ENOUGH. I KIND OF START WITH THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS MAYBE THIS IS GOING TO BE A WOULD BE A BOUTIQUE. BUT WHAT DO WE CHANGE TO THE NEXT TIME? TO BYPASS THAT SO. I'M GOING TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE DON'T APPROVE THIS. LIKE YOU, MISTER WATLEY ANYONE ELSE? I'M ON THE OPPOSITE OUT OF THIS. I STRUGGLE WITH THIS. THIS THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS SET EMPTY FOR A VERY LONG PERIOD OF TIME. THERE'S NOT A GREAT DEAL OF THINGS THAT CAN GO INTO THIS LOT. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS COME BACK TO US BEFORE WITH A BETTER PROPOSAL AND WHAT HE HAD THE FIRST TIME I UNDERSTAND COUNCIL. PERHAPS THEY MAY NOT SUPPORT IT, UM BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. I THINK THIS IS THE BEST USE FOR THIS. THIS POINT WITH WHAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE FOR LAND. MR DUKE. I THINK YOU KNOW THIS IS SILAS CHALLENGING AND IT SAT EMPTY FOR YEARS. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH DEPTH ONCE YOU ADD IN ALL THE SETBACKS TO FIRE LANES, ETCETERA YOU GOT MAYBE A 75 FT BUILDING. ACTUALLY COULD DO A RETAIL CENTER HERE WITH THE 75. BUT THEN YOU'RE GONNA NEED A LOT MORE PARKING PER CODE. BUILDING IS GOING TO SHRINK SOME INGRESS EGRESS COMING OFF OF 75 TO GET TO HERE.
IT'S JUST NOT GREAT IN SO I THINK WHAT WAS PROPOSED HERE. IS A LARGE BUILDING. IT WILL HIT
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THE OF ALARM TAX, PROBABLY THE BIGGEST BEST WAY THAT POTENTIALLY IN A GOOD WAY, I SHOULD SAY. UM SO I'M IN FAVOR FOR PROCEEDING AHEAD. ANYONE ELSE? SO I'M. I SIDE WITH STAFF . THEY'VE GOT CLEAR DIRECTIVES THAT HAVE COME DOWN THROUGH COUNCIL AND THEY'VE TAKEN UP POSITION AND YOU KNOW, AND I ASKED THEM IF THEY DID. IN CONSIDER THIS SCP AND THEIR RECOMMEND. IF TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE APPLICANT STATE AND THEY YES. THEY STILL CAME. BACK WITH THE. DENIAL. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE STAFF. ON THIS ONE. THINK THE DIRECTIVE WAS MORE. TO ALLOW THEM NOT TO SAY NO BUT TO HAVE APPROVAL RIGHTS FOR THEM TO SAY NO IN THE FUTURE IS MY MUST KIND OF GOT IT. JUST MAKE SURE YES. I MEAN, SORRY THAT MIGHT KEEPS GETTING ME. I THINK IN THAT SENSE THAT'S CORRECT. IT GIVES COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND EXTRA ABILITY TO THESE CASE BY CASE BASIS, AND THAT IS DEFINITELY DISCRETION. THAT THEY HAVE. IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. HAS WELL. I WILL. THAT S YOU. P REQUEST. TO THIS.I'LL BE IT. DIFFERENT. HI AND THAT WAS JUST RECENTLY DENIED FOR US THAT SORT OF REAFFIRMED SOME OF THAT DIRECTION WE GOT FROM 2018 AND THE CONCERNS ABOUT AUTO DEALERSHIPS ON 75.
I AGREE WITH THIS WITH THE WITH THE APPLICANT AT THINK IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THEY'RE LUMPED IN WITH, AS THE STAFF REPORT SAID. OTHERS UP AND DOWN THE ROAD. THIS IS A STANDALONE APPLICATION AND UM, STAFF REPORT IS WHAT IT IS, BUT IT IS A STANDALONE APPLICATION. LESS THAN 50% OF THE SCIENTISTS BEING UTILIZED. AH MR WOODRUFF AND MR ARNOLD ARE CORRECT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE FROM CITY COUNCIL IT. IT ADDRESSES WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THIS MOMENT, IT GIVES THE P AND C AND THE COUNCIL OF THE RIGHT TO VOTE UP OR DOWN. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. SUPPORT THE APPLICANT IN THIS ANYONE ELSE? I MEAN, I GUESS. TO SOMEWHAT. NO RELIEF FOR JUST AN EXERCISE OF WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH BECAUSE CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE THE ULTIMATE DECISION HERE. SO I MEAN, A DIFFICULT PIECE OF LAND STAFF HAS A CLEAR DIRECTIVE. BUT THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE OTHER CAR DEALERS IT'S JUST CONFUSING FROM ONE END, AND THEN THE DIRECTIVE WE'VE SEEN OTHER CAR DEALERSHIPS APPROVED SINCE WE STILL HAD THAT DIRECTIVE, SO IT AT TIMES. CHANGES SO, I MEAN, I WAS SUPPORTED JUST SO THE APPLICANT CAN HAVE THEIR DAYS FOR CITY COUNCIL AND THEY GET A SIMPLE MAJORITY OR UH, FOR APPROVAL TO GET APPROVED OR SIMPLE MAJORITY AND ITS DISAPPROVE AND IN THE END, IT'S STILL COUNCILS. DECISION IN THERE. DIRECTIVE. AND THEY DECIDE INSTEAD OF MAKING IN A SUIT. THERE'S NEW ONE. MOTIONS.
ON THE MOTION. WE APPROVE THIS ITEM. UM. LET ME JUST MAKE SURE WE GET THIS SUPPORTED RIGHT? APPROVED THE ITEM WITH THE SPECIAL ORDINANCE PER VISION. UM PERIOD. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING NOW, SO I'M RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. JUST REALLY QUICK FOR PROCEDURAL PURPOSES. I DON'T THINK WE'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. YES, WE DID. OKAY. SO TO CLARIFY YOU'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR THE APPLICANT REQUEST. INCLUDING MR RONALD CATCHES HERE. THE, UM SITE PLAN THAT'S ATTACHED THAT'S CORRECT PLAN ATTACHED. THAT IS CORRECT. THIS IS ADDRESSING THE STAFF'S, HOWEVER. COMMISSION CHOOSES TO APPROVE. WE'D LIKE TO SEE THIS SITE PLAN. MR ARNOLD'S THAT CORRECT THAT'S YOUR EMOTION. SECOND. SECOND. MULTIPLE MR TAYLOR. ANY DISCUSSION? 11 COMMENT TO THE GENTLEMAN WHO ASKED ABOUT THE EXTERIOR FINISH . THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO A STAFF MEMBER ABOUT WHAT IT WILL BE. UM DON'T LIKE TO MAKE ASSUMPTIONS BUT TO ASSUME THAT IT WILL BE SOMETHING TACKY WOULD BE HARD TO BELIEVE. I THINK I THINK THE APPLICANT MORE THAN LIKELY WILL HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S IN LINE WITH WITH THE FAVORABLE LOOK SO THAT THIS STAFF LEVEL BE ABLE TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT. OKAY? WE'RE NOT AVOIDING YOUR QUESTION. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. IN A SECOND. YOU NEED YOU NEED DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. THIS MOTION IS APPROVED. I VOTED FIVE IN FAVOR AND TWO AGAINST THE ANIMAL BE SENT TO
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THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FOR FINAL ACTION AT THE MAY 3RD 2022. CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THE NEXT ITEM IS TO ONE DAY 0187. ABOUT CURING REQUEST TO RESUME[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to allow for Single Family Residential and Commercial Uses and to Modify the Development Standards, Located on the North Side of Stacy Road and on the East Side of McKinney Ranch Parkway]
THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY FROM PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT. TO ALLOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES INTO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF STACY ROAD AND ON THE EAST SIDE OF MCKINNEY BRANCH PARKWAY. SHEFFIELD THANK YOU. THE APPLICANTS REQUESTING TERESA IN APPROXIMATELY 21 ACRES OF LAND GENERALLY FOR A SINGLE FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL USES.CURRENTLY THIS SITE IS OWNED PD PLAYING DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WITH A BASE ZONING OF THAT C TWO. LOCAL COMMERCIAL USES OVER THE ENTIRE SPAN OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED THE STONING OF REQUESTS TO SUBDIVIDE THIS PROPERTY INTO TWO TRACKS A AND B AS I'VE NOTED, BEFORE YOU TRACKED AID APPLICANTS PROPOSING A SINGLE FAMILY USES ON APPROXIMATELY 14.8 ACRES WITH ALLOWED COMMERCIAL USES. CONTRACT B IS APPROXIMATELY 6.2 ACRES SOLELY FOR THOSE C TWO COMMERCIAL USES. OTHER STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE COMMERCIAL USES PROPOSED ON TRACK TO BE. WE DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT INTRODUCING PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES ON TRACK A THE 21 SUBJECT. ACRE PROPERTY WAS JUST RECENTLY ZONED BACK IN 2020 TO ALLOW FOR USES THAT ALIGN WITH THAT C TWO LOCAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN ZONED TO ALLOW FOR OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USES. AS PART OF THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS ENTIRE UH, 110 ACRE TRACT. OVER THIS SWITCHBACK OVER TO THE AERIAL HERE. UM BETWEEN THE KIDNEY RANCH PARKWAY, BRIDGE ROAD AND STACY ROAD. THIS PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED FOR DENSE EMPLOYMENT MIXED CENTER TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, AND THE INTENT WAS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE EMPLOYMENT USES AND OPPORTUNITIES AND COMMERCIAL SERVICES. TO SUPPORT THE MANY ANTICIPATED RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE AREA. OVER TIME THAT ORIGINAL COMMERCIAL FOOTPRINT HAS BEEN TREMENDOUSLY REDUCED TO LESS THAN ABOUT 30 ACRES, REMAINING COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTY. STAFF DOES UNDERSTAND THAT ACHIEVING RETAIL USES ON THE ENTIRE TRACK, MAYBE CHALLENGING, GIVEN THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED CONFIGURATION OF THE BOULEVARD THAT SPLITS THE PROPERTY IN HALF THROUGH THE MULTI FAMILY USES TO THE NORTH. HOWEVER WE DO FEAR THAT THE AMOUNT OF PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL USES WILL ELIMINATE THE VIABILITY FOR MEANINGFUL COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES SUPPORTIVE OF THAT URBAN ENVIRONMENT ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED. WITH THESE THINGS IN MIND STAFF IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THE ZONING REQUESTS AND I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, CAITLIN. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? ONE. THANK YOU, DEAR APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT. MR CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE PLANE IS DOWN IN COMMISSION MARTIN SANCHEZ 2000 NORTH MCDONALD SUITE 100 HERE IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS. AH STAFF DID A FANTASTIC JOB SUMMARIZING A LOT OF THE DETAILS WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE. I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF TAKE US DOWN A LITTLE BIT, AND I'LL MAKE IT QUICK, MR. CHAIR PROMISE BUT SOME MEMORY LANE HERE TO KIND OF REALLY GIVE US A LONGITUDINAL OF HOW WE REALLY GOT HERE TO THIS POINT. I WAS FORGETTING. THERE YOU GO. NOPE. SO CIRCUIT 2000, MR. TAYLOR MR. COX MANY OF YOU SOME OF YOU, TERRY EXAMPLE AS AN EXAMPLE WILL REMEMBER THAT THE CORRIDOR ALONG 1 21 WAS BASICALLY DEAD ZONE. WHO IS NO DEVELOPMENT. SOME DEVELOPMENT CREEPED UP AN ALLEN KIND OF SKIPPED OVER NORTH ISLAND SKIPPED OVER SOUTH MCKINNEY AND KIND OF STARTED AGAIN WITH THE OLD FM 7 20. THAT'S NOW MCKINNEY RANCH PARKWAY. AT THE TIME I WAS ON STAFF. AND ONE OF THE BIG REASONS WHY I WAS BROUGHT ON STAFF OF THE CHALLENGE OF THE QUESTIONS OF THE DAY WERE WHY DID DEVELOPMENT SKIP THIS AREA? FUNDAMENTALLY THERE WAS A COMBINATION OF LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND BAD POLICY. LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE. THERE WAS VIRTUALLY NO WATER THERE. NO SEWER, MR WILEY. I'M SORRY I FAILED. THE ROOM MENTIONED YOUR FATHER WAS INTIMATELY INVOLVED WITH ALL THIS AS WELL AND LATE NIGHT MEETINGS THROUGHOUT ALL THIS TIME. BUT THE BAD POLICY WAS THAT IN ESSENCE 4500 SQUARE 4500 ACRES ALONG 1 21 CORRIDOR WERE DESIGNATED TO BE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION. 4500 ACRES OF ANYONE. YEARS IS SOMETHING THAT
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IS NOT SUSTAINABLE, AND THAT USE WAS NOT REALISTIC AT THE TIME, SO A LOT OF EFFORT WENT INTO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THAT AREA. ULTIMATELY WE CAME UP WITH THE LAND PLAN AND A MASTER PLAN FOR THAT ENTIRE 1 21 CORRIDOR THAT WAS A MIXED USE CONCEPT TO ALLOW RESIDENTIAL ALLOW RESIDENTIAL AT MUCH HIGHER DENSITIES THAN WE HAD ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY. WE ALSO AT THE SAME TIME PASSED A MULTI FAMILY POLICY THAT LIMITED MULTI FAMILY THE REST OF THE CITY TO SAY, LET'S GET AS MUCH DENSITY IN THIS AREA. THE THINKING WAS MORE DENSE ANYMORE. RESIDENTIAL IT JUSTIFIES RETAIL AND ALL OF THAT SUPPORTS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE HEADQUARTERS, ETCETERA, ETCETERA. YOU CAN REMEMBER SOME OF YOU WHO WERE THERE THE COUNTLESS HOURS WE SPENT IN THIS ROOM AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, DEBATING THESE ISSUES GOING THROUGH CHARETTE'S ETCETERA.ULTIMATELY WHAT WE ENDED UP WITH WAS THE POLICIES THAT WE HAVE TODAY. NOW, OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, THEY'VE HAD IT HAVE EVOLVED AND CHANGED QUITE A BIT. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THE FRAMEWORK WAS ALWAYS THERE. THERE WERE TWO PRIMARY DEVELOPMENT TO THIS. 1 21 CORRIDOR. CRAIG RANJAN MCKINNEY RANCH. THE STAR THAT YOU'LL SEE NOW STARTS POPPING UP ON MOST OF THESE SLIDES TO KEEP PEOPLE LOCATED AS TO WHERE WE'RE AT THE PROCESS. IRONICALLY IN COINCIDENTALLY, THE GENTLEMAN WHO SOLD THE LAND TO DAVID CRAIG THAT BECAME CRAIG RANCH ENDED UP BUYING MCKINNEY RANCH AFTER HE SOLD CRAIG THE PROPERTY THAT DAVID AND HAS BEEN DEVELOPING MCKINNEY RATE FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS OR SO. OF THAT IN THAT DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF THE POLICIES WE IMPLEMENTED 20 SOME ODD YEARS AGO, ALMOST 3.5 BILLION IN NEW DEVELOPMENT. OUT OF ALL OF THE LAND OF THE 4500 ACRES ABOUT 90% OF IT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED. AND WE CONTINUE TO KIND OF MOVE FORWARD AND FINISH THIS OFF. HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THE ORIGINAL 550 ACRES OVER MCKINNEY RANCH. YOU SEE THE STAR THAT'S GENERALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS THIS PROPOSAL TONIGHT. AND YOU SEE THE LABELS MCKINNEY RANCH PARKWAY, STACY ROAD BRIDGE. THOSE RULES WITH DIDN'T EXIST. THE ALIGNMENTS DIDN'T EVEN EXIST. THESE WERE POLICIES THAT CAME AFTERWARDS AS WE WERE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THESE PLANTS. YOU SEE OUT OF THE 550 ACRES. ABOUT HALF OF IT WAS ACTUALLY ZONE, A HODGEPODGE OF 4500 SQUARE FOOT LOT. DEPARTMENT'S OFFICE RETAIL LITTLE BIT. BUT NONE OF IT REALLY MADE SENSE. WE STILL HAD AN ISSUE OF NO INFRASTRUCTURE.
I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY SINCE ABOUT 2000 AND TWO AFTER I LEFT STAFF AS A CONSULTANT. SO I'VE SPENT A LOT OF NIGHTS HERE EXPLAINING THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. IN 2000 AND TWO REZONED IT FOR THE FIRST TIME AGAIN, THERE ARE THE LABELS OF THE ROADS TO KIND OF KEEP THE ORIENTED. ONE THING. YOU CAN EVEN IT'S A FUZZY DIAGRAM, THAT'S HOW OLD THE ZONING CASES IS THAT THOSE ALIGNMENTS FOR THOSE ROADS ACTUALLY DON'T EXIST . EVEN WHEN WE ZONE THIS PROPERTY FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE WERE GUESSING AND WHERE THESE ROADS SHOULD GO. BACK THEN RIDGE ROAD ACTUALLY CONNECTED TO WHERE STACY IS TODAY DIRECTLY, AND IT WAS PART OF THE OLD MCKINNEY LOOP, SOMETHING THAT CAUSED A LOT OF FRICTION IN THE COMMUNITY. ARE THROUGH THIS LAND PLANNING AND ZONING. WE BROKE UP THE CONNECTION OF RICH TO STACEY TO ELIMINATE THE MCKINNEY LOOP AND CREATE THE CONFIGURATION OF ROADS THAT YOU SEE OUT THERE. WHAT ARE THE MAJOR CHALLENGES WE HAD TO DEAL WITH AS WELL? WAS THAT THIS PROPERTY, UNLIKE CRAIG RANCH, WAS NOT DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO 1 21. IT WAS FURTHER UP. SO YOU REALLY DIDN'T HAVE THAT NATURAL DRAW OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND YOU REALLY DIDN'T HAVE THAT NATURAL DRAW OF HEADQUARTERS, ETCETERA, SO IT WAS KIND OF A NO MAN'S LAND THAT DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF MM LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE NOW. IN 4 4000 AND FIVE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY ENTERED INTO A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF MCKINNEY AND THE DEVELOPER. BASICALLY, THE OWNER BUILT ABOUT $15 MILLION WORTH OF ROADS. OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. THEY INVESTED THEIR MONEY UPFRONT TO BUILD THESE ROADS FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. ONE IS IT UNLOCKED THE PROPERTY, BUT TOO IT ALSO HELPED THE ENTIRE AREA DEVELOPED TO START HAVING CONNECTIVITY. YOU COULDN'T GET FROM RAGE AT 7 20. WE'RE SEEING ANDREWS CHURCHES MY CHURCH DOWN TO 1 21 UNTIL HE BUILT ALL THESE ROADS.
AND SO WE WERE EFFECTIVELY ABLE TO BUILD SILVERADO. MRP RIDGE, STACY COMICALLY PARKWAY, WHICH STARTED UNLOCKING A LOT OF THESE PARCELS. ULTIMATELY AS PART OF BUILDING THOSE ROADS WE ALSO BUILT OR THE MEDIANS AND WE GUESSED AS BEST AS WE COULD OF WHAT MADE SENSE FOR ULTIMATE PLANNING PURPOSES. I WILL GRANT YOU SOME MEDIUMS. IF YOU GO OUT THERE KIND OF GO TO NOWHERE.
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IT'S BECAUSE WE GUESSED BUT FOR THE MOST PART, MOST MEDIA OPENINGS ARE EXACTLY WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE, AND THEY MAKE SENSE, WHICH IS A BIG HURRAH. GIVEN THAT WE WERE KIND OF GUESSING AT THE TIME. THE FRAMEWORK REALLY WAS FAIRLY CRITICAL TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY OVER TIME. NEARLY SKETCHES ARE ACTUALLY CIRCA 15 YEARS AGO. THOSE ARE MY HORRIBLE DOODLY SKETCHES BECAUSE I WAS ALWAYS A POLICY PLANNER, NEVER ACTING ACTUAL DESIGNER. AH IN YOU CAN SEE HOW DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE PROPERTY EVOLVED OVER TIME. FOR EXAMPLE. THE AREA IN THE BULLET, WHICH IS THAT WHERE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS STAFF AND US EFFECTIVELY CALLED THAT THE BULLET FOR 20 YEARS THE AREA IN THE BULLET. WE'VE RESHAPED THAT DETENTION PART OF RIDGE ROAD THREE TIMES. THE FIRST TIME WE BUILT IT FOR ACTUAL STORMWATER MANAGER. THEN AS TIME PROGRESSED, WE BUILT IT AS KIND OF A PLACE MAKER AS TO HOW TO GET THE MULTI FAMILY COMMUNITIES AROUND ACTUALLY WORK IN A MORE AND EFFECTIVE MANNER. AH ALONG THE WAY WE FOCUSED ON THE FRAMEWORK. THE SHORT TERM INFRASTRUCTURE PLACE, MAKING ISSUES AND ULTIMATELY BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY IN A VERY KIND OF LOGICAL WAY AS WE MOVE FORWARD. HERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE AND IN 2014. WE ACTUALLY STARTED THE REZONING PROCESS AFTER WE HAD DEVELOPED QUITE A FEW PROPERTIES IN 2014. WE GAVE BACK EUPHEMISTICALLY AIR QUOTES TO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MULTI FAMILIES OWNING ON THIS PROPERTY. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, IN FACT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT WE'RE PROPOSING THE SINGLE FAMILY WAS ACTUALLY ZONED FOR MULTI FAMILY. BUT IN 2014, WE HAD DEVELOPED THE CORE OF THE BULLET. UNDER FOUR DIFFERENT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS. ONE OF THEM WAS WORKFORCE HOUSING. THE OTHER THREE ARE MARKET RATE ALL AROUND THE POND. UM WE ALSO STARTED THE IDEA OF THE BOULEVARD. THE BOULEVARD ENDED UP BECOMING VERY CRITICAL DESIGN FEATURE RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF ALL THOSE COMMUNITIES. THAT ADDED TO THE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE KIND OF COMMUNITY PLACE MAKING PROCESS. IN 14. WE ADDED HIDDEN SPRINGS, WHICH IS A GRADUATED LIVING FACILITY, INDEPENDENT LIVING AS WELL AS ASSISTED LIVING, AS WELL AS MEMORY CARE UNITS THAT ARE THERE AS WELL. AH AND IT'S BEEN A GREAT ADDITION TO THE AREA. IF YOU LOOK AT THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BULLET, BASICALLY TWO EXHIBITS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SLIDE. THE ONE ON TOP OF THE RED CIRCLE IS MY HAND SKETCH OF AGAIN WHAT I THOUGHT COULD HAPPEN, BUT WE REALLY WEREN'T SURE JUST QUITE YET. IF YOU LOOK AT THE AERIAL PHOTO BENEATH YOU ACTUALLY SEE HOW IT ACTUALLY DEVELOPED, WERE ABLE TO CARVE OUT AND DEDICATE SOME COMMERCIAL RETAIL ALONG RIDGE AND WE MADE ROOM TO NESTLE IN THE HIDDEN SPRINGS, THE GRADUATED CARE LIVING FACILITY. AGAIN THERE'S ONE THING FOR CONCEPT THERE'S ANOTHER THING FOR ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION. IN 2020. WE DID REZONE TO ADD A CAR WASH ON THE HARD CORNER OF RIDGE AND STACY. AND WE ALSO CODIFIED THE BOULEVARD FOR THE FIRST TIME. UP UNTIL THIS POINT. IT WAS A GREAT DESIGN FEATURE AND STAFF AND I HAD ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE. THIS IS A GOOD IDEA. IT WORKED OUT WELL, BUT IT WAS NEVER REALLY CAUGHT IFIED IN ANY SIGNIFICANT WAY. SO IN 2020. WE ACTUALLY PUT SOME MEAT ON THAT BOAT AND SAID MARTIN, YOU WILL ACTUALLY FINISH THAT BOULEVARD OUT TO STACY BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY TURNED OUT TO BE A REALLY COOL THING. HERE'S AN EXAMPLE. THE TOP TWO SLIDES ARE ACTUALLY SKETCHES THAT WE DID IN CIRCA 2010 2012, WHERE WE WERE DOING SOME THREE D SKETCHING OF HOW THAT BOULEVARD MIGHT ACTUALLY WORK. THE MIDDLE TWO AERIAL PHOTOS ARE THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE TWO SKETCHES AND WE'VE IMPLEMENTED IT EXACTLY KIND OF HOW WE FIRST ENVISIONED IT. OVER TIME. YOU SEE THE LAST AERIAL ON THE BOTTOM? THAT'S THE ACTUAL BOULEVARD THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IT'S A SUPER COOL DESIGN FEATURE. YOU'VE GOT PARALLEL PARKING A FIRE LANE. BABY MEDIA THAT'S LANDSCAPED ANOTHER FIRE LANE AND MORE PARALLEL PARKING.IT'S FAIRLY UNIQUE CROSS SECTION . IT SITS ON 84 FT. AND IF YOU CAN IMAGINE 84 FT OF CROSS SECTION AT YOU KNOW, $10 A FOOT . THAT'S AN EXPENSIVE DESIGN FEATURE, BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY PRETTY CRITICAL TO THE WAY WE DEVELOPED THE BOULEVARD. IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO KIND OF CONTINUE THAT THAT THAT CONCEPT. I'LL TAKE YOU TO STAFF REPORT IF WE WOULD, BECAUSE I THINK STAFF AND I PUT A LOT OF WORK. MY TEAM STAFF PUT IN A LOT OF WORK TO GET US TO WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY. UM IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR STAFF REPORT, YOU LOOK AT THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THERE IN THE RED BOX PROPOSAL IS ONLY REQUEST IS GENERALLY INCOME WITH THE
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PRINCIPLES. THE MEAT THAT GETS US HERE, EXCEPT STAFF IS ALSO UNDER THE AGAIN AS WE DISCUSSED IN THE PREVIOUS CASE WHERE COUNSELORS SAID HEY, BE VERY SCRUTINIZING ABOUT CONVERTING COMMERCIAL ZONING INTO RESIDENTIAL ZONING, AND SO I CAN RESPECT THE ANC'S THAT THEY'RE IN REALLY THE QUAGMIRE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PREFERRED SCENARIO, LADIES DIAGRAM AGAIN PER STATUS REPORT. UH THE PREFERRED SCENARIO. IT'S THIS IS IN THE COLUMN. MCKINNEY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. IN ITS DESIGNATED AS URBAN LIVING PLACE TIME. VERY QUICKLY. THE URBAN LIVING SUPPORTS A MIX OF HOUSING OPTIONS. WALKABLE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS, URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS, COMPACT, EASY TO GET AROUND WITH BY CAR BIKE WALKING. HENCE THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT BOLD AND THEN LAST ON THE LAND USE DIAGRAM COMPATIBILITY. THE BREADBOX PROPOSED ZONING REQUEST ALIGNS WITH THE URBAN LIVING PLACE TYPE IN THE CMP DISTRICT. SO AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A GOOD SOLID ANALYSIS AND LET ME JUST FURTHER THAT POINT IF I COULD JUST FOR SECONDS, SIR. HERE IS THE LAND USE DIAGRAM HERE IS THAT 4500 ACRES HERE IS THE URBAN LIVING DESIGNATION. PLACE TAP IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE HOUSING CHOICES FOR EMPLOYEES OF THE PROFESSIONAL CENTER AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS. THIS IS PRETTY CRITICAL BECAUSE IT RECOGNIZES THAT THESE AREAS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE KIND OF FILLING IN THAT FOR GAMUT OF RESIDENTIAL FROM DUPLEXES TO TOWN HOMES TO TRY PLEXUS TO MULTI FAMILY TO SENIOR CARE, ETCETERA. IT'S REALLY TO SUPPORT THE AREA RIGHT ON 1 21. WHICH IS THE PROFESSIONAL CENTER AND THE AREAS THAT ARE DESIGNATED AS MIXED U CENTER OR ENTERTAINMENT . SO WHERE MY STORY IS, IT'S RIGHT KIND OF SMACK IN THIS AREA WHERE WE ARE PROVIDING THE VARIOUS HOUSING CHOICES FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE JUST DOWN THE STREET. SO, ULTIMATELY SPEAKING, GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME VERY QUICK EXAMPLES AGAIN.THERE'S THAT URBAN LIVING DEFINITION. THE TOP PICTURE OR THE MIDDLE PICTURE. THERE IS THE SENIOR URBAN LIVING, HIDDEN SPRINGS FANTASTIC FACILITY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO CITE THERE FOR SENIORS AGAIN, BUT IN AN URBAN SETTING. AND THEN DOWN BELOW IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE TOWN HOMES AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE WHERE THE SENIOR URBAN SITS WHERE THE URBAN TOWN HOME SIT, AND THEN WHERE THE MULTI FAMILY SITS. IT'S A TRANSITION OF USES. THESE ARE MEANT TO WORK TOGETHER IN A VERY URBAN SETTING. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. IN GENERAL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BULLET. MY CHALLENGE WITH THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BULLET IS THIS ALTHOUGH IT IS A 21 ACRE SITE.
THE BOULEVARD RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE, WHICH WE ARE NOT CONTESTING. WE WANT TO DO. WE FOUGHT FOR THIS FOR A LONG TIME. EVEN AGAINST OUR OWN INVESTORS. WE THINK THE BOULEVARD IS A CRITICAL PLACE MAKING ITEMS. IS THAT BECAUSE THE BOULEVARD I REALLY DON'T HAVE A 21 ACRE SITE . WHAT I HAVE IS TO 10 ACRE SITES, RIGHT AND I LOSE THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE BOULEVARD.
IN A TO 10 ACRE SITES. MY USES NOW START BECOMING LIMITED AS AN EXAMPLE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A 20 ACRE SITE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN MASS AS AN EXAMPLE LIKE A GROCERY STORE SITE. WITH SOME SHADOW RETAIL AND A GAS STATION , GREAT EXAMPLE WOULD BE HARDENED SOUTHEAST CORNER OF HARDEN AND EL DORADO. THAT'S THAT'S 19 AND A QUARTER ACRES. GROCERY STORE, SHADOW RETAIL, ONE PAD SIDE GAS STATION. THE PROBLEM IS WITH A BOULEVARD DOWN THE MIDDLE. I CAN'T DO THAT. I JUST HAVE TO 10 ACRES SITES. THAT LEADS ME TO MY SECOND PROBLEM IN THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION. ONCE WE GET PAST THE FIRST ROW OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL ON STACY WHICH WE HAVE LEFT 250 TO 300 FT IN THERE TO SITUATE DEVELOPMENTS. THEN NORTH OF THAT, I GET IT NOW INTO THIS.
NO MAN'S LAND. WHAT DO I DO WITH IT? BECAUSE NOW I HAVE, IN ESSENCE. 2627 ACRES SITES NORTH OF THAT COMMERCIAL BE TRACKED AS MISS AS CAME IN DESCRIBED IT. SANDWICHED IN BETWEEN STACY COMMERCIAL AND THESE MULTI FAMILY COMMUNITIES. IT'S TOUGH TO SAY ANYTHING THERE THAT WORKS , AND IT'S NOT REAL RETAIL LAND. GIVING EXAMPLE IF I COULD COMMISSIONERS IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THIS AREA. IS THIS PICTURE, MULTI FAMILY. URBAN TOWN HOMES. THAT'S WHAT THIS WILL BE ADJACENT TO DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THIS AREA. IS THIS PICTURE? IT'S AN ACTUAL APARTMENT COMPLEX,
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MULTI FAMILY. DESIGNED TO LOOK LIKE TOWN HOMES. AND SO. THE CHALLENGE OF TRYING TO SITUATE COMMERCIAL RETAIL THESE TWO KIND OF DONUT HOLES FOR MY DESCRIPTION. AH IS ONE IN WHICH WE ARE DESTINED TO LEAVE. THIS PROPERTY HAS JUST NO MAN'S LAND. IT'S JUST TOUGH TO DO ANYTHING WITH NOW, IF I KNEW NOW, IF I KNEW, THEN WHAT I KNOW NOW, TWO YEARS AGO, WOULD WE HAVE SITUATED A TUNNEL CAR WASH THEIR MAYBE NOT. BUT IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT, KNOWING WHAT I KNOW, AND THE MARKET EVOLVES, ETCETERA, WE CAN CIRCULATE THE CAR WASHED WITH THESE REMAINING PADS. COMMERCIAL AND MAKE IT ALL WORK AND WHAT WE END UP WITH IS THIS BAND THIS RIBBON OF RESIDENTIAL WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL IF I COULD. THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT TYPES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. ON THIS SIDE. WE'RE PROPOSING TOWN HOMES FOR SALE. TOWN HOMES INDIVIDUALLY PLANNED ON THIS SIDE WE'RE PROPOSING THESE URBAN LIVING RESIDENTIAL LOTS FOR SALE AS WELL. WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE A NUMBER OF THESE NOW WHERE WE'VE DONE, ONE AT IN CRAIG RANCH, COLLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY AND ALMA. WE'RE DOING ANOTHER ONE IN THE CORPORATE CENTER AREA ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE CORPORATE CENTER IN CRAIG RANCH AS WELL, THESE URBAN LIVING, UH, DEVELOPMENTS EVEN WE APPROACHED IT WITH SOME TREPIDATION. IT'S A 31 FT WIDE LOT. 105 FT DEEP ISH.AH BUT THE MARKET WHERE WE PUT IT ON THE GROUND ON THE FIRST ONE, DREES WAS A RESIDENTIAL BUILDER ON THAT ONE, AND IT HAS SHOWN STRONG INTERESTS IN DOING THIS ONE AS WELL. THEY STARTED PRICING THEIR UNITS THERE AT ABOUT $550,000. THEY ARE NOW THEY'VE HIT AND HAVE SURPASSED $700,000. BECAUSE IT'S A LOCK AND LEAVE, MAINTAINS EVERYTHING AGAIN IN AN URBAN SETTING, AND IT'S MEANT TO DO THAT. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. SO NEXT I WILL TELL YOU. THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY OF EVERYTHING I'VE TALKED ABOUT. IN 20 YEARS WE HAVE PUT ALL OF THAT ON THE GROUND AND IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE. IT'S BEEN A LOT OF BOBBING AND WEAVING AND EVOLUTION OF THOUGHT, BUT WE HAVE REALLY BEEN ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THE VAST MAJORITY OF WHAT OUR ORIGINAL INTENT WAS ON THE SUBJECT PROPER. ULTIMATELY I'LL END UP WITH THIS AND THEN I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION AS NEEDED. UM THIS IS A MATRIX OF THE 20 YEAR IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. WE HAVE. SOLD OVER $100 MILLION OF LAND ON THIS ON THIS SITE WITH NEARLY A BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF DEVELOPMENT ON THIS 550 ACRES. I JUST BRING THESE UP ITEMS TO NOTE FOR STAFF IN THE CITY IN THEIR FISCAL IMPACT MODEL. THEY ARE STILL RUNNING AND YOU SEE THE FISCAL IMPACT VERB INTO THE BULLETS OVER ON THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER. THEIR ASSUMPTION IS ABOUT $315,000 PER UNIT. IT'S TOUGH IN MCKINNEY TO GET A $315,000. UNIT ON THE GROUND, AND I KNOW BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE DO. THE OTHER ASSUMPTION IS $180 PER SQUARE FOOT OF COMMERCIAL VALUE. THOSE ARE REALLY OLD ASSUMPTIONS WHEN I PLUG IN OUR REALITY OF 5 50 PER UNIT IN 2 50 FOR COMMERCIAL THE TOTAL IMPACT OF THIS IS NOT 57 MILLION, OR 54 MILLION AS STAFFS ANALYSIS WAS, IT'S CLOSER TO 88 MILLION. WHICH IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE. UM I REALIZED THAT THIS IS WE STARTED WITH MULTI FAMILY. I GAVE HER MULTI FAMILY BACK. AND NOW I'M ASKING FOR SOME RESIDENTIAL IN THAT RIBBON , AND THAT'S YOU KNOW, IF WE KNEW EVERYTHING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN SIX YEARS AGO. WE WOULDN'T BE HERE BUT YOU KNOW THE MARKET EVOLVES AND WE TRY TO EVOLVE WITH IT. WITH THAT I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION AND I WOULD TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU, MR SANCHEZ. ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU'VE COME TO NINE AND WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS PROPOSED. REZONED. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. MOVING CLOSE TO PUBLIC HEARING EMOTIONAL MR MAN SAI TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING 2ND 2ND BY MR WHAT LEADS OR ANY DISCUSSION, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. OKAY THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED BY VOTERS, SEVEN IN FAVOR AND ZERO AGAINST MEMBERS. QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR STAFF. I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH STAFF ON THIS.
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I MEAN, I DON'T LIKE RESIDENTIAL SANDWICH BETWEEN C TWO AND APARTMENTS AS FAR AS MARKET EVOLVING, I JUST FIND THAT IS WHAT SELLS FASTEST RIGHT NOW. THE CAR WASH. TUNNEL OF BUDDING SINGLE FAMILIES AND ATTRACTIVE. I DON'T THINK WE WOULD LET THIS BUILD OUT THE OTHER WAY. WHERE WE HAD SINGLE FAMILY, AND THEN WE SURROUNDED IT BY SEA TO AN APARTMENT. SO WHY? I KNOW THAT HOUSING IS HOT NOW, AND THESE CAN SELL. UM PERFECT. I'LL JUST GO ALONG WITH STAFF REPORT ON THIS OR ANYONE ELSE. I LIKE TO SAY LIKE THE PROPOSED USE IS A TOUGH SITE WITH THE BOULEVARD IN PLACE TO DEVELOP A 20 ACRE SITE. UM I DON'T THINK IT'S TOTALLY MARKET DRIVEN. I THINK THAT'S THAT IS PART OF IT, BUT IT IT IT IS A TOUGH SITE WITH THE BOULEVARD IN PLACE. TO A LIKE WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING HERE. A MINUTE COMPLETE AGREEMENT, CHAIRMAN. I WOULD HAVE BEEN PREPARED TO NOT SURE REALLY. WHAT USE IS UNDER C TWO. DONE A GOOD JOB CARVING ALL POTENTIAL PAD SITES, WHICH ARE SOME USES THAT ARE OUT THERE TODAY. THAT WILL PROBABLY BENEFIT DOWN HERE IN THIS AREA. OVERALL. C TWO FOR THE. OR TRACK. I THINK IT'S JUST GOING TO BE HARD TO FIND SOME OFFICE SLASH RETAIL USES TO TAKE BIG BOXES TO GO DOWN THERE, SO THANK CARVING THIS UP IS ACTUALLY NOT A BAD THING AND PUT SOME RESIDENTIAL IN THERE AND LEAVING SOME RETAIL LONG STACY ROAD. MAYBE I'D BE MORE OPEN TO IT IF IT WASN'T C TWO ON THE FRONT AND YOU, ACTUALLY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE RESIDENTIAL YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE IT DOWN TO SEAT ONE. BUT AGAIN, I DON'T CARE PROCEED TO OR HIGH INTENSITY CAR WASH NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY. SIMPLE. I'M IN AGREEMENT WAS TOUGH. ANYONE ELSE? ALL THESE CONTROLS. UM YOU KNOW, THEY ISN'T TOUGH SITE.NORMALLY I'M WILLING TO SPEAK UP QUICKLY. I WANTED TO HEAR WHAT THE OTHER COMMISSION MEMBERS SAID. I THINK IT IS A TOUGH SIDE. I HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU, MR. CHAIR IT. IT'S HARD TO DEAL WITH IT. BUT I ALSO SEE MR MAN'S EYES POINT. THIS WAS OPPOSITE. WE WOULD NEVER LET A CAR WASH GO ON THAT CORNER. WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY. SO WHAT IS THE BEST USE OF THAT? IT'S HARD TO SAY, BUT WITH IT BEING BROKEN WITH THAT BOULEVARD, I CANNOT SEE CT. THAT ENTIRE SITE. I WOULD HAVE TO BE IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICANT ON THIS ONE, TOO. I GUESS I WILL MAKE THE EMOTION TO APPROVE THAT THE APPLICANTS REQUEST UM SEE IF WE HAD. ON THE SPECIAL ORDINANCE PROVISIONS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT WOULD APPLY. WE HAVE EMOTIONAL, MR DOCTOR PROVE THE ANIMUS FOR APPLICANTS REQUEST INCLUDING THE SPECIAL ORDINANCE PROVISIONS. LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. 2ND 2ND MAN. MR. WOODRUFF. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THIS MOTION CARRIES BY VOTE OF FIVE IN FAVOR, TOO, AGAINST THE ITEM WILL BE SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FOR FINAL ACTION. AT THE MAY 3RD 2022 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THE
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Zone the Subject Property to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to Allow for Commercial and Heavy Machinery Sale and Storage Uses, Located on the West Side of State Highway 5 (McDonald Street) and Approximately 2,800 Feet North of Telephone Road]
NEXT ITEM. 22-001 TUESDAY A PUBLIC HEARING REQUEST. TO ZONA SUBJECT. PROPERTY PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL AND HEAVY MACHINERY, SALE AND STORAGE USES . THIS IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF STATE HIGHWAY FIVE. 2800 FT NORTH OF TELEPHONE ROAD.SHEFFIELD THANK YOU SKIP PAST HERE. RIGHT SO THE APPLICANTS REQUESTING TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 11.5 ACRES OF LAND TO PD PLANE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WITH A BASE OWNING OF C THREE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL IN THE ALLOWED USE. OF HEAVY MACHINERY SALES AND STORAGE MINISTERS HATED VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION REQUEST WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ZONING REQUEST. AT THE MAY 3RD CITY COUNCIL MEETING. ALTHOUGH THE EXISTING
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DEVELOPMENTS AROUND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OR NOT WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS STAFF IS OF THE OPINION THAT THE PROPOSED USE DOES ALIGN WITH THE BOBCAT OF NORTH TEXAS. THAT'S JUST TO THE WEST. AS WELL AS SOME OF THE STORAGE USES TO THE WESTERN EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. STAFF. FEELS THAT THE PROPOSED USED SHOULD NOT LET IT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE SURROUNDING USES AS SUCH STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROS REQUESTS FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, CAITLIN QUESTIONS.CLARIFY THERE IS A AND ANNEXATION CASE COMING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THIS SIGN YESTERDAY. THANK YOU, REZA APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT. HMM. SANCHEZ. MR CHAIR. MEMBERS OF PLANS ZONING COMMISSION. MARTIN SANCHEZ 2000 NORTH MCDONALD'S WE 100 HERE IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS.
I'LL BE BRIEF OF THIS SENSOR SUBJECT PROPER. WE STARTED ACTUALLY DEVELOPING IT IN THE FEW YEARS AGO, PRE COVID FOR LOTS OF DIFFERENT REASONS. THE PROJECT STALLED IN TODAY'S ITERATION, THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH STAFF. TO BRING THE CITY THE DEVELOPMENT INTO THE CITY. AND AN EXIT. AND THE DEVELOPMENT IS STILL BASICALLY THE SAME. IT'S A MACHINERY, UH, HEAVY EQUIPMENT. KIRBY SMITH OUT OF OKLAHOMA, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS INVOLVED IN JUST ABOUT ALL OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN THIS AREA. THEY'RE THEY'RE JUST A BIG EQUIPMENT. AH PROVIDER WHERE WE WORKED WITH TEXT ON THE IMPROVEMENTS TO HIGHWAY FIVE AND THE CITY PLANNING AND ENGINEERING TO WORK THROUGH ALL OF THE TECHNICAL ISSUES, AND WE ARE PROCESSING AND ANNEXATION PLAN AS WELL, SIR. QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. VERY GOOD THINGS LIKE E. OH, YES, SIR. ALRIGHT, YEAH. ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU'RE COMING TO NINE, I WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS PROPOSED ZONING OF THIS PROPERTY. POLICE COME TO THE PODIUM. ALRIGHT, SAYING NONE. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IMPROVED THE ITEM PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION. MOST MEMBERS REMAINS AT A CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN APPROVAL. UNANIMOUS FIRST HALF RECOMMENDATION. SECOND AMENDMENT TO TAILOR ANY DISCUSSION PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THIS MOTION IS APPROVED OF OVER SEVEN IN FAVOR OF ZERO AGAINST IT WILL BE SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION. OR FINAL ACTION AT THE MAY 3RD 2022 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. NEXT ITEM. EVERYBODY, OKAY? VERY GOOD. 22 DAYS. 00 TO
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to Modify the Development Standards and to Allow for a Telecommunications Tower, Located on the North Side of Hidden Haven Drive and Approximately 640 Feet West of Independence Parkway]
60 PUBLIC HEARING REQUEST TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM PD. TWO PD GELLAR TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND TO ALLOW FOR TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER. THIS IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HIDDEN HAVEN DRIVE, 600 FT WEST OF INDEPENDENCE PARKWAY, MISS SHEFFIELD, THANK YOU. SO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY'S REQUESTING TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 7.5 ACRES OF LAND.GENERALLY FOR GOVERNMENTAL USES , SUCH AS A PARK AS WELL AS TO ALLOW FOR A TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER WITH AN APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. AS PART OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THERE ARE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT CRITERIA FOR A TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER THAT INCLUDE MINIMUM SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, SCREENING MAXIMUM HEIGHT AS WELL AS LANDSCAPING.
AS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS WOULD MODERNIZE THE ZONING ON THE PART OF THE PROPERTY. EXCUSE ME TO THE CITY'S STANDARD GT GOVERNMENT. GOVERNMENTAL COMPLEX ZONING DISTRICT, AND WE'LL ALSO ADD FLEXIBILITY AND SPECIFIC CRITERIA FOR ALLOWING TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER ON THE PROPERTY. EXCUSE ME. HMM LET'S SEE HERE GIVEN THE LOCATION, UM , AND THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUESTS, BRINGING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY INTO MODERNIZED ZONING. DISTRICT STAFF DOES NOT HAVE ANY CONCERNS WITH THE PROPOSAL. I DO ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE ZONING REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS TO ALLOW FOR THE GOVERNMENTAL COMPLEX IN THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER BY THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT LATER ON IN TONIGHT'S AGENDA. AND I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. FEELING BUT FORGIVE ME HERE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ANSWER SOME FEW TOUGH THINGS, OKAY? THIS ITEM BECOME BEFORE US LAST YEAR. CORRECT 102 100 FT WITHIN THIS CONNECTED TO THE SCHOOL ON THE PROSPEROUS CITY PROPERTY THAT'S CORRECT. FAILED AT CITY COUNCIL . SO THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS DO WE FILL THOSE CONCERNS ARE NOW MET BY MOVING IT. FROM THE
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ELEMENTARY INTO AN OPEN PARK. THE STAFF DOES FEEL THAT THOSE CONCERNS HAVE BEEN MET A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT CAME ABOUT WHERE THE LOCATION AND CLOSENESS TO THE SCHOOL PROPERTY. IN ADJACENT TO THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. THE PROPOSAL FOR THIS REQUEST WOULD LIMIT THE AVAILABILITY FOR ITS COMMUNICATIONS TOWER. MOSTLY EAST ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN ABOUT 550 BETWEEN ANY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH. SO WE'RE LEAVING A POTENTIAL. FALL RISK, EVEN THOUGH I THINK THAT WAS ADDRESSED IN SOME REPORTS, BUT FULL RISK TO ACTUALLY STICK IT OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARK INSTEAD OF HIDDEN BESIDE THE SCHOOL. THOSE WERE SOME OF THE INITIAL CONCERNS. YES SIR. THERE IS A FALL AS OWN LETTER PROVIDED WITH THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. THERE'S ALSO A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CELL TOWER HERE TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OF THAT NATURE. I BELIEVE WITH THE DESIGN OF THE TOWER, IT WILL ESSENTIALLY BUCKLE WITHIN ITSELF . UM, INSTEAD OF THE CONCERNS OF THE FALL RISK FOR THAT 80 FT TOWER FALLING TO THE SIDE. FOR THAT ANSWER, VICE WHEN IT WAS NEXT TO THE SCHOOL. STAFF DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS DUE TO THE DESIGN BECAUSE IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY FALL WITHIN ITSELF.THERE WEREN'T ANY CONCERNS ON STAFF'S BEHALF WITH FALLING OVER TO THE SCHOOL SITE. BUT GIVEN THIS NEW LOCATION, IT'S FARTHER AWAY. JUST IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS. YEAH. BECAUSE I.
CONSIDERING WHAT I CAN REMEMBER BACK TO THOSE MEETINGS IN THE RESIDENTS CONCERNS AH, I DON'T THINK MANY HAD FALLEN CONCERN AS MUCH AS VISUALLY AND JUST HAVING ITSELF OUT TOWER NEAR THEM. SO WE'RE NOT CHANGING THAT IT'S STILL QUITE VISIBLE. AND IT'S STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SINGLE FAMILY. THAT IS CORRECT. YES SIR, I THINK A LOT OF THE CONCERNS TO WITH THAT PREVIOUS REQUESTS WERE THE HEALTH IMPLICATIONS, PART OF THAT TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT OF 1996 WERE NOT ABLE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THOSE UM AND SO WITH THAT, WE KNOW THAT WAS A LOT OF RESIDENTS CONCERNS WITH THAT INITIAL REQUEST AS WELL. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS OF MISS MISS SHEFFIELD. CAITLYN COULD YOU ONE MORE TIME CLARIFIED THE DIFFERENCE IN THIS CASE, AND THEN THE NEXT CASE, THIS IS A ZONING CASE. WHICH ALLOWS THE APPLICANT THE RIGHT TO REQUEST AN ISSUE P. WE HAVE TO APPROVAL PROCESSES, RIGHT? SO IN YOUR WORDS, SAY WHAT I JUST SAID THIS REQUEST BEFORE YOU FOR THE ZONING. A BASE DISTRICT OF THE GOVERNMENTAL COMPLEX USES UNTIL OUR THAT TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER WITH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, WHICH IS THE FOLLOWING ITEM ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. IS THERE ARE APPLICANTS HERE TONIGHT? SO THE CITY IS ACTUALLY THE APPLICANT. BUT IF YOU DO HAVE ANY PARTICULAR QUESTIONS REGARDING THE TOLKIEN VACATIONS TO CORRECT REPRESENTATIVE HERE AS WELL, WE HAVE QUESTIONS OF SOMEONE THAT IS KNOWLEDGEABLE OF CELL TOWERS. TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWERS. THAT HIM? FOR IT. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MASON GRIFFIN. I RESIDED 49 08 SPYGLASS DRIVE IN DALLAS, TEXAS , AND I AM THIS IS KIND OF OBVIOUS SITUATED CASE BECAUSE I AM NOT THE APPLICANT TECHNICALLY, TECHNICALLY, ALL THE OF THE AFRICAN AS A CITY BUT I AM HERE REPRESENTING HEMPHILL TOWERS, WHO WAS LAST SUMMER HERE AND RECEIVED IT A SEVEN NOTHING RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL ON THE SITE LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE SCHOOL AT CITY COUNCIL, AS WAS POINTED OUT, WE WERE DENIED ON A 43 VOTE. AND SO WHAT WE DID AFTER THAT IS A MEET WITH AND DISCUSS WITH CITY STAFF SPECIFICALLY, EXCUSE ME, THE CITY ATTORNEY AND WE CONDUCTED AN EXHAUSTIVE REVIEW OF EVERY AVAILABLE SITE THAT MET THE COVERAGE AND CAPACITY NEEDS OF THE PRIMARY TENANT ON THE TOWER OF VERIZON WIRELESS. WITHIN THE AREA WHAT WAS POINTED OUT AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS. ONE WAS THERE WAS THE FALL RISK WAS POINTED OUT THE PROXIMITY TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WAS POINTED OUT. UM AND THEN, QUITE GENERALLY, THEY CRITICIZED OR ANALYSIS AND THEY SAID WE DIDN'T DO A THOROUGH ENOUGH JOB ESTABLISHING THAT WE'VE EXHAUSTED EVERY POSSIBLE CANDIDATE WITHIN THE AREA, AND SO WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS , AND DURING THAT PROCESS DISCOVERED THAT THE CITY HAD THE ABILITY TO PURCHASE THIS TRACT.
FOR PARK USE AT THE TIME, AND CURRENTLY IT'S OWNED BY D. R. HORTON BUT THE CITY BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT THE OPTION TO PURCHASE HAS THE STANDING TO PRESENT THIS APPLICATION. AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING SINCE REALLY LAST JULY ON THIS WITH CITY STAFF TO TRY TO COME TO AN ARRANGEMENT. WE'VE WORKED WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO ESTABLISH.
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WE'VE WALKED THE SITE WITH THE PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT. TO DETERMINE THE BEST POSSIBLE LOCATION THAT MINIMIZES AS BEST WE CAN THE VISUAL IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR NOW SEVERAL 100 FT. FURTHER AWAY THAN WE WERE FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES WILL BE SCREENING THE BASE OF THE TOWER WITH LANDSCAPING APPROVED BY THE CITY AND REQUIRED BY THE CITY. UM AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, THE FALL RISK IS ELIMINATED SINCE WE'RE NOT NOT NEAR THE SCHOOL ANY LONGER, ALTHOUGH, AS WAS POINTED OUT WE DO. IT DID HAVE A LETTER AND ENGINEERING STUDY DONE ON THAT.THAT ESTABLISHED THAT THE FULL RISK EVEN NEXT TO THE BUILDING WAS MINIMAL. THESE ARE DESIGNED ONE TO WITHSTAND INCREDIBLE AMOUNTS OF WIND. THEY'RE THE REASON OUR PHONES OF CELL TOWERS WORKED DURING HURRICANE KATRINA . BY AND LARGE. THESE THINGS JUST GENERALLY DON'T FALL EXCEPT THROUGH EXTRAORDINARY SITUATIONS . BUT WHEN THEY DO, THEY'RE DESIGNED TO FOLLOW IN VERY PARTICULAR WAYS. UM, SO I'M GLAD TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE CONCERNS THAT, UH, THAT THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE. BUT AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH THE CITY STAFF ON THIS FOR ALMOST A YEAR NOW TO ESTABLISH THE BEST POSSIBLE CANDIDATE. THAT ADDRESSES THE COVERAGE NEED, WITH THE LEAST POSSIBLE IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, MR GRIFFIN WITH THE QUESTIONS QUESTION PROPOSED RENDERING. EFFORT AT ALL. AND THIS. IT'S MORE OF A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU IS TYPICALLY, WHAT I'VE SEEN IS POWER. ONE RING AROUND IS ONE CARRIER NEXT ROUND. ANOTHER CARRIER. APPEARS ON THERE. I AGREE TOGETHER, YOU'RE GONNA BE TWO RINGS. VERIZON. THAT'S CORRECT. SO TYPICALLY WHAT WE WHAT NOT NECESSARILY EFFECTUALLY KNOWN AS THE CHRISTMAS TREE DESIGN THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING WITH RINGS OF ANTENNAS. TYPICAL YOU'LL HAVE TWO OR THREE ANTENNAS PER SECTOR EACH. THERE'LL BE THREE SECTORS. THE ANTENNAS WILL BE POINTED IN THREE DIRECTIONS. GENERALLY ENOUGH, TWO OR THREE ANTENNAS. UM POINTED IN EACH DIRECTION BECAUSE THESE ARE BEING MOUNTED INTERNALLY WITHIN THE TOWER. THERE'S ONLY SPACE FOR 11 SET OF ANTENNAS POINTING AT EACH DIRECTION SO AT EACH LEVEL UM, YOU ONLY HAVE THREE ANTENNAS.
AND SO IT ACHIEVED THESE SIX ANTENNAS THAT MOST OF THESE CARRIERS REQUIRE THAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO HAVE TO OCCUPY TWO OF THE CANISTER, SO TO SPEAK WITHIN THE STACK OF AND TELL US WITHIN THE WITHIN THE TOWER. SO IT'S A STEALTH TOWER, THEN CORRECT THE SLICK POLE DESIGN THAT WE'VE SEEN THAT MINIMIZES THE VISUAL IMPACT AS BEST WE CAN. AND AS PEOPLE DRIVE BY, THANK YOU SURE, ABSOLUTELY. ANYONE ELSE? HAVE A QUESTION SO AS CONSUMERS OR SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T DO WHAT YOU DO WHAT WHAT WILL THE CITIZEN NOTICED DIFFERENT IF THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENS. THERE'S NO QUESTION THERE'S GOING TO BE A TOWER THERE. UM, WHAT WE FIND IS THAT OVER TIME, ESPECIALLY AS THE PARK IS DEVELOPED AND ESTABLISHED AND LANDSCAPING GROWS. MY EXPERIENCES, AND I KNOW THIS IS SELF SERVING IS THAT GENERALLY DISAPPEAR INTO THE ATMOSPHERE POINTED OUT IN THE HEART OF UNIVERSITY PARK IN HIGHLAND PARK. THERE'S A PARK WITH 100 AND 20 FT CELL TOWER THAT NO ONE KNOWS IS THERE. THERE'S TREES THAT HAVE GROWN UP AROUND IT, AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE AS TALL AS THE TOWER TO BLOCK THE VIEW. UM SO YES, THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT TOWER WILL BE VISIBLE. BUT AGAIN, WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS BY MOVING IT AS FAR AWAY FROM FROM RESIDENTS AS WE CAN SO THAT IT'S NOT AND HAVE THE FEEL OF IT LOOMING OVER THEIR HOMES AS THEY AS THEY MIGHT ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ADAM. BEFORE WE OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING IF THERE IS, UM IF THEIR CITIZENS THAT HAVE SUBMITTED LETTERS REGARDING THIS CASE, PLEASE KNOW THAT THEY WILL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS PART OF OUR MINUTES. SO IF YOU'RE WATCHING US ON THE T V. WE DO HAVE, UM, CORRESPONDENTS FROM YOU AND PLEASE KNOW THAT IT WILL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS PART OF OUR MINUTES. WITH THAT WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR COMMENTS . SO IF YOU'VE COME TO AN IDEA, BUT LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS PROPOSED TO REZONE PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. MHM. GOOD NIGHT, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS LUKE CICOTTE. I LIVE AT 10 10 1. OLD EAGLE RIVER LINE. WHICH HAPPENS TO BE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED TOWER. I DIDN'T COME IN TONIGHT, THINKING OR PLANNING THAT I WOULD SPEAK BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL LIKE I KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT WHAT THE PLAN WAS.
RIGHT NOW HAVE LINKS THAT I WILL FOLLOW UP AND GET MORE EDUCATED ON WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE. I AM STRUCK A LITTLE BIT BY A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE IS THE PROPOSED PROPERTY. WHEN THAT
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DEVELOPMENT WAS PUT IN PLACE THROUGH D. R. HORTON, THERE WAS A PROPOSAL TO PUT A PARK THERE.IF ANY OF YOU DRIVE BY THAT AREA. IT'S SCORCHED EARTH. IT'S COMPLETELY FLAT. THERE ISN'T A TREE IN SIGHT. SO THE IDEA THAT THIS THING WOULD DISAPPEAR? IT WILL DISAPPEAR IN 40 YEARS.
MAYBE BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING THERE AND UNLESS THE CITY IS GOING TO A GO AHEAD AND PUT A PARK AND BE PUT TREES THAT ARE MORE THAN NURSERY STOCK THAN THIS THING WILL BE VERY VISIBLE VERY LONG. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THE PROPOSED TOWER IS GOING TO BE. IT'S STILL FAIRLY CLOSE TO THE PROSPER SCHOOL. THAT IS THERE THERE IS ACTUALLY A PLAY STRUCTURE. THAT IS ON THE FAR EDGE OF THE SCHOOL FAIRLY FAR FROM WHERE THE ORIGINAL TOWER WAS GOING TO BE. THAT WILL BE. I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY FEET BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE DETAILED DATA, BUT IT'S USED BY THE KIDS. ALL THE TIME WHEN CLASSES COME OUT, AND THEY HAVE , UM, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED RECREATION OR RECESS. UM. THE KIDS ARE ALL OVER THAT PLACE AND THE OTHER IDEA THAT THIS MIGHT BE A BIT MORE REMOVED FROM SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THAT'S NOT THE CASE BECAUSE THERE IS A STREET CALLED HIDDEN HAVEN. AND THE DEVELOPMENT CALLED THE RESERVE AT WEST RIDGE IS MM.
BACKING ON AND IS BUILT RIGHT ALONG HIDDEN HAVEN. SO FOR INSTANCE, OUR OUR HOUSE AND THE BACKYARD IS A LONG HIDDEN HAVEN. DIRECTLY ACROSS. I BELIEVE WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO WHERE THE TOWERS AND THERE ARE 1800 HOMES IN THAT DEVELOPMENT. THEY'RE NOT ALL WITHIN DISTANCE OF THE TOWER, OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT'S A FULL RESIDENT. DEVELOPMENT WITH FAMILIES AND KIDS, AND SO ON. SO UM, I THOUGHT I SHOULD TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST PUT POINT OUT A FEW THINGS. IT'S AN OPEN FIELD. COMPLETELY FLAT. COMPLETELY BARREN. RIGHT NEXT TO A SCHOOL AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT DEVELOP. SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. CERTAINLY I WILL BE GETTING MORE EDUCATED AND A LITTLE BIT DISAPPOINTED THAT THERE AREN'T MORE RESIDENTS, BUT WE RECEIVED VERY LITTLE NOTICE OF THIS. WE RECEIVED THE CARD IN THE MAIL LAST WEEK, AND THE SIGNS WENT UP THE SAME DAY. SO I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY FOLKS HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO LOOK INTO THIS, ETCETERA, BUT I APPRECIATE THE TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HI UM, I'M GARY HARNICK.
UM I'M AT 10105 CELL BOARD DRIVE . SO IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT CHART RIGHT THERE THAT MAP I'M RIGHT ON THE NORTH SIDE , ACTUALLY THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE SOUTHERN GENTLEMAN HERE. ANE WHEN WE BUILT OUR HOME THERE IN 2012. WE WERE TOLD THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE A PARK. AND AS YOU MENTIONED MR VICE CHAIRMAN. UM I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT I STILL HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR COMMUNICATIONS TOWER . I KNOW AT THIS POINT, IT'S NOT PLANNED TO BE AT RIGHT NEXT TO THE SCHOOL. BUT I STILL DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT IT. UM ONE OF THE OTHER POINTS I WANTED TO MAKE IS THAT UM VERIZON IS CRYING BECAUSE THEY'RE SAYING THAT WE DON'T HAVE CELL SERVICE. WELL. I CAN TELL YOU I HAVE FIND CELL SERVICE. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S A NECESSARILY A VALID ARGUMENT. AND I CAN ALSO TELL YOU THAT IF ANYBODY HAS INTERNET SERVICE, AND THEY HAVE WIFI IN THEIR HOME. YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO WIFI CALLING WHICH WE HAVE TRIED AT HOME, AND IT WORKS JUST FINE.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER POINT. I WANTED TO MAKE UM. THE OTHER THING, AND I THINK THIS MAY HAVE BEEN COVERED ALREADY. IN PREVIOUS STUDIES. BUT I DID WANT TO ALSO BRING UP THE POINT ABOUT POSSIBLY USING THE WATER TOWER. ON AH, INDEPENDENCE IN WEST RIDGE. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT PARTICULAR USAGE REQUIRES A LOT LESS RED TAPE FOR THE CITY. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S THAT'S ALL I HAVE
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TO SAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR HORNET FOR BEING HERE. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT? GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JACKIE. SEE KAT AND I'M AT 10 10 1 OLD EAGLE RIVER LANE AND MY HUSBAND JUST SPOKE RECENTLY. WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO THAT. SOME OF MY CONCERNS, AND I PRINTED A DOCUMENT THAT I THINK IS A FROM THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. ARTICLE FIVE, WHICH IS SMALL WIRELESS FACILITIES, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ONE OF YOUR DOCUMENTS OR NOT, BUT IT SAYS IT'S SPECIFICALLY UNDERSTOOD AND AGREED THAT A NETWORK PROVIDER GENERALLY IS NOT ALLOWED OR AUTHORIZED TO INSTALL NETWORK PARKS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY IS WANTING TO PURCHASE THAT PLAN OF LAND. AND I DON'T KNOW. DID YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT YOU WERE GOING TO PUT A PARK THERE? SO HOW CAN YOU HAVE A PARK? AND THEN YOU'RE SAYING HERE THAT YOU CANNOT PUT A NETWORK NODE ON THERE IF IT'S A PARK? AND THERE'S ALWAYS SO MANY CHILDREN THAT ARE PLAYING THERE. AND WHAT'S THE ISSUE OF THEIR RADIO? ACTIVELY YOU KNOW THE FREQUENCIES THE RADIATION FREQUENCIES THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. THANK YOU WILL GET AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT? ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS? MAKE A MOTION WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING EMOTIONAL, MR DOKE CLOSER, PUBLIC HEARING SECOND, MISTER WATLEY. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. OKAY THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED MEMBERS. QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR I'M SORRY, ARE EXPERT IN THE AUDIENCE AND OR STAFF. QUESTION OF STAFF. CONSIDERING HOW THE LAST ZONING WENT AND WE APPROVED THIS SEVEN ZEROS WENT TO CITY COUNCIL AND I THINK THE RESIDENTS RECEIVED THE POSTCARD THEIR NOTIFICATION OF THE SIGNS , AND IT'S RELATIVELY LATE IN THE LIKELIEST TO BE MORE RESIDENTS OR POTENTIALLY MORE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHEN THIS REACHES THERE ALONG THE WAY. THERE'S A TIMES THAT WE PUSHED THE APPLICANT. WHAT'S YOUR OUTREACH TO THE LOCAL RESIDENTS FOR YOUR REZONING? SO IS THE CITY OF MCKINNEY AS APPLICANT TAKING ANY STEPS TO DISCUSS THIS WITH THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA. THE CITY HAS NOT DONE ANY OUTREACH, PARTICULARLY FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM OR THE SCP REQUEST. THAT MAYBE NEED TO BE CONSIDERED.CONSIDERING HOW I'M CONFUSED ONS ALL CHANGED BETWEEN THAT THAT THEY MAY BE SUFFERING THE SAME CONFUSION THAT I SUFFERED. ON THAT THE OTHER ONE BIGGIE. THE APPLICANTS QUIT OR EXCUSE ME.
ONE OF THE RESIDENTS QUESTIONS RELATED TO WIRELESS TOWERS LOCATED WITHIN CITY PARKS. YOU HAVE ANY COLOR YOU CAN ADD TO THAT. SO, UM. WE ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT. I DO BELIEVE IT MAY BE FOR THE SMALL CELL AND THE RECENT, UM FIVE G. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS TOKEN DADS . BUT THE FIVE G STRATEGY THAT THE CITY ADOPTED BACK IN 2020. HOWEVER I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING. ACTUALLY, OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN THE LEAD ON MOST OF THIS INFORMATION SO AND WE HAVE RELIED ON THEIR EXPERTISE. WE CAN CERTAINLY GO BACK AND VISIT WITH THEM MORE ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN POTENTIAL SMALL CELL IN CITY PARKS VERSUS TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER. I VOTED YES, LAST TIME. REPORTS WERE THERE IS FOR US THE STRENGTH OF A TOWER WITH RELATED TO WINDS AND THE SAFETY FACTORS AND WHAT WE CAN'T TAKE IN AS FAR AS SAFETY, CERTAIN SAFETY OR HEALTH FACTORS RELATED TO FEDERAL REGULATION ON THOSE PARTS. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS ANY BETTER THAN THE LAST ONE AS FAR AS THAT GOES, BUT UTILITY THAT'S NEEDED AND CONTINUES TO BE USED MORE AND MORE, AND I DON'T SEE ANY FURTHER DANGER, TOO. RESIDENT AND ACTUALLY HAVING A CELL PHONE IN YOUR HAND, SO AS FAR AS THAT GOES, I'LL SUPPORT THE REQUEST. BUT I WOULD HOPEFULLY ENCOURAGED THE CITY POTENTIALLY TO REACH OUT TO THE RESIDENTS. JUST LIKE CLARITY DO WE HAVE? DOES THE CITY OWNED THIS PROPERTY TODAY OR DO THEY HAVE AN OPTION ON IT? SO THE HORTON AS THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS REPRESENTATIVE MENTIONED ER HORN OWNS THE PROPERTY. WE HAVE THE DEED IN HAND TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY. PENDING THE ZONING AND SCP REQUEST. OTHER QUESTIONS.
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COMMENTS. OCEANS. THEY CAN EMOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ITEM OR SEND THE SEND THE REQUEST TO CITY COUNCIL WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. MOTION MANAGED TO MEN'S I TO PROVE THE ANIMALS PER APPLICANT REQUEST. SECOND SECOND MARRIAGE TO WOODRUFF. ANY DISCUSSION? CAST YOUR VOTES. THE ATOM IS APPROVED SEVEN IN FAVOR OF ZERO AGAINST THE OTTOMAN WE SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION AT THE MAY 3RD 2022 MEETING REGARDING THEIR REPORT THAT A SPEAKER HAD THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH STAFF ABOUT THAT. IT'S CERTAINLY WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IS, BUT THE SAME PROCESS WILL HAPPEN AGAIN AT THE CITY COUNCIL LEVEL, SO BETWEEN NOW AND MADE THE THIRD WE CAN FIGURE OUT JUST EXACTLY WHAT THE REPORT IS. OKAY[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit to Allow for Telecommunications Tower Uses, Located on the North Side of Hidden Haven Drive and Approximately 640 Feet West of Independence Parkway]
NEXT TIME 22-0005 ISSUE P. PUBLIC HUMAN REQUEST. TO ACT ON A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT ALLOWED TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER. THIS IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HIDDEN HAVEN DRIVE. 640 FT WEST OF INDEPENDENCE PARKWAY. THANK YOU . SO SAME PROPERTY. THIS IS THIS SPECIFIC USE REQUESTS PORTION FOR THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER IN THEIR REQUEST. WE DO HAVE THE THESE AREA EXHIBIT. AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED EXHIBIT FOR THE COMPOUND OF THE TOTAL TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER. SO AS PART OF THAT REQUEST, THEY DO HAVE THAT. THAT EXHIBITS SUBMITTED FOR THE REVIEW ALIGNS WITH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN THAT PREVIOUS ZONING REQUESTS THE MIDDLE, UM STAFF HAS THE VALUE WEIGHTED THE REQUEST AND FEELS THAT THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER WOULD NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT TO DO SOME DEVELOPMENTS. THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER IS APPROXIMATELY 330 FT. FROM THAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PROPERTY LINE TO THE WEST AND MORE THAN 550 FT FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINE. UM, THERE. PROPOSED SCREENING WALL FOR THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER WILL BE EIGHT FT. MAKE A SCENERY WITH PROPOSALS LANDSCAPING AROUND THAT MASONRY WALL ENCLOSURE. THE REMAINDER OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS PROPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED AS A PUBLIC PARK BY THE CITY AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED , UM, WITH THESE THINGS IN MIND STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUESTS AND I'LL STAY IN FOR ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS OF MISS SHEFFIELD. QUESTIONS OF OUR, UM. ANYONE KNOW? OKAY? THANK YOU.THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING OUT. UM UM, IF YOU HEARD IT, NOT, IT WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS PROPOSED REZONE SHORTLY, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT. WE DO HAVE LETTERS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED REGARDING THIS. SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. PLEASE KNOW THAT YOUR LETTERS WILL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS PART OF OUR MINUTES. WITH THAT IF YOU'RE HERE, DENYING IT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS PROPOSED QP, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. JACKIE SEE KAT AGAIN ? UM ARE YOU ABLE TO ACTUALLY TELL US SPECIFICALLY WHERE THE POLE IS GOING TO BE? ON THE PLOT OF LAND. SO THIS IS THE SQUARE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE. THIS IS THAT PROPOSED LEASE AREA AND THE SCHOOL IS JUST LET ME GO BACK TO THAT ONE. CAITLYN. AND WHERE IS INDEPENDENCE? LIKE WHAT? INDEPENDENCE IS RIGHT HERE IN NORTH AND SOUTH. OKAY AND WHERE IS IT? THIS IS GENERALLY THE LOCATION FOR THAT. AND THEN THAT EASEMENT THAT THAT THAT RETENTION AREA IS RIGHT THERE. NOW MY ISSUE, TOO, IS THAT ONCE ONCE A POLL IS PUT UP. THERE IS NOT STOPPING THEM FROM PUTTING MORE AND ADDING ON TO IT IS THAT THAT'S WHAT I'VE READ THAT ONCE IT'S THERE. YOU CAN ADD TO IT. THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
IS THAT NOT CORRECT. WELL, I DON'T KNOW THEY NOW THAT THAT THAT IS THERE THAT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO PUT ANOTHER POLL IN. AND THEY MAY BE ABLE TO ADD OTHER TIERS OF THE CHRISTMAS TREE.
WELL NOT CORRECT. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. WE WILL GET YOU AN ANSWER TO WANT TO INTERRUPT, OKAY, WHAT WE'LL DO IS TAKE OTHERS THAT MAY WANT TO SPEAK AND ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS AS WELL. OKAY? AND HOW TALL IS IT GOING TO BE? OKAY HEIGHTEN. YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT IF YOU'LL ADDRESS IF YOU'LL IF YOU'LL ADDRESS WILL ANSWER THE NO. YOU'RE MORE THAN
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WELCOME TO STAY HERE. CERTAINLY WELCOME ADDRESS US AND NOT THE STAFF AND THE WORLD. THAT WAY.THE MICROPHONE PICKS UP WHAT YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE BEING RECORDED. YEAH. SORRY I'M PERFECT. I'M JUST WONDERING THE FACT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE 80 FT HIGH AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A STEALTH. TOWER HOW HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE HIDDEN? LIKE HOW YOU KNOW LIKE, HOW IS THAT WRITTEN BUT KIND OF SHRUBS OR TREES. ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THERE TO ACTUALLY HIDE? HIDE IT, OKAY, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO DO THAT. DID YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS SO MORE TIME, JACKIE SEEK A 10 10 1 OLD EAGLE RIVER LANE. PERFECT. THANK YOU. SAME TALK ABOUT THE SAME TOPIC.
I JUST WANTED TO ALSO UM, BRING UP THE FACT THAT WE DID HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT IF THIS DOES GO FORWARD THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME SOME FACADE DESIGN THAT MIGHT HELP. AH! BLEND IN MORE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. BECAUSE THAT WAS A CONCERN OF OURS AS WELL. WE ALSO READ ABOUT AH! THE TOWER THAT WAS PUT IN ON CUSTER BETWEEN ONE COASTER NEAR STONEBRIDGE. AND THEY HAD. SOME FACADE THAT THEY WERE WORKING WITH, UH, THE CONTRACTOR ON. SO I ALSO WANT TO BRING THAT UP. SO THANK YOU. AGAIN MY NAME IS LUKE. SEE COTS . 10 10 1, ALL THE EAGLE RIVER LANE. IF WE CAN PUT UP THE PLANT THAT HAD SCHOOL STRUCTURE. THE PLAN. YEAH. I'M GOING TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD, BUT I DO WANT TO REITERATE THE SCORCHED EARTH. PIECE OF LAND THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT D. R HORTON CURRENTLY OWNS THAT THE CITY IS PLANNING TO PURCHASE. THAT WHOLE BLUE AREA WITH THE CROSSHATCH. THAT'S COMPLETELY FLAT D. R HORTON HAS BEEN PAYING EVERY YEAR TO KIND OF CUT THE WILD GRASSES DOWN. TO NOT HAVE IT BE A DISTRACTION. I ASSUME SO.
THEY'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. UM EVEN THOUGH I FORGET HOW MANY FEET WAS MENTIONED THAT IT'S AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL. THERE IS A PLAY STRUCTURE THERE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE LITTLE DOT WHERE THE TOWER IS PROPOSED TO GO RIGHT ACROSS FROM THAT THERE'S A LITTLE PATCH OF GREEN. THAT'S A PLAY STRUCTURE. THAT IS CONNECTED TO THE SCHOOL THAT IS USED BY THE KIDS. MM FOR RECESS AND USED ON THE WEEKENDS BY FAMILIES FROM OUR DEVELOPMENT, SO IT'S LITERALLY RIGHT UP AGAINST THIS PROPOSED TOWER. AND AS YOU CAN SEE ALL THE HOUSES THAT ARE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DISTANCES BUT IT'S AS CLOSE IF NOT CLOSER THAN THE HOMES WHERE THE PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED TOWER WAS WHICH WAS CONNECTED TO THE BACK SIDE, THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SCHOOL. YOU CAN SEE THE HOMES THERE THAT IS ALSO PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. MM. THAT'S JUST AS CLOSE AS BEFORE, SO I'M NOT COMING FORWARD WITH ANY CONCERNS ABOUT A TOWER FALLING. WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT RADIOACTIVE WAVES. WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LOOK OF IT AND THE. COMPLETELY UNBELIEVABLE NOTION THAT THIS THING WILL BLEND IN. AT SOME POINT SOON BECAUSE IT WON'T IT'S LIKE I SAY, IT'S SCORCHED EARTH SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE TIME AND, UH WE CERTAINLY PLAN ON PUTTING OUR CONCERNS IN A LETTER AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WE HAVE SAID TONIGHT AND ARE BEING RECORDED SO THAT IT'S OFFICIAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WHICH IS SPEED TONIGHT ON THIS ITEM. GRIFFIN. YES AGAIN. MASON GRIFFIN HERE REPRESENTING HEMPHILL TOWERS THAT THE TOWER DEVELOPER AND FIRST I JUST WANT TO WANT TO SAY, AND I'LL DIRECT IT THIS WAY. SO THE MIC CATCHES IT, BUT THIS IS REALLY DIRECTED AT THE FOLKS THAT HAVE RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT THIS. I'M GLAD TO SIT AROUND AFTER THIS MEETING AND DO MY BEST TO ADDRESS CONCERNS THAT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THEM. I DON'T EXPECT THEM TO BELIEVE ME, AND THAT'S
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FAIR, BUT HOPEFULLY I CAN PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT THAT AS THEY EXPLORE THIS ISSUE FURTHER CAN AT LEAST ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, UM THE TOWER. AND IS THIS A TOUCH SCREEN THAT AS I TOUCH IT AGAIN HAS BEEN POINTED OUT IS GOING TO BE APPROXIMATELY RIGHT THERE IN THE FURTHEST CORNER POSSIBLE WAY FROM THE SCHOOL. THIS DISTANCE FROM HERE TO HERE HAS BEEN POINTED OUT IS ABOUT 640 FT. AND SO WE'VE GOT ABOUT THE SAME DISTANCE JUST TO THE PROPERTY LINE. AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EIGHT TIMES THE HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED TOWER FROM EVEN THE PROPERTY LINE THAT SEPARATES THE PARK THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED. IN THE SCHOOLS PROPERTY AGAINST 640 FT. THAT'S THAT'S QUITE A DISTANCE, AND THEN THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED TOWER LOCATED. APPROXIMATELY THERE. IF YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT LOCATION, AND SO CERTAINLY THAT WAS QUITE A BIT CLOSER TO THE RESIDENTS, RESIDENTIAL HOMES THEN THEN THIS DISTANCE IS AND THAT'S REALLY BEEN. OUR GOAL IS WE FELT LIKE WE WERE DENIED A CITY COUNCIL. WE WANTED TO DO OUR BEST TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS RAISED AND , UH AND WE TOOK DIRECTION FROM CITY STAFF AND FELT LIKE THAT.WE'VE DONE OUR BEST. TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS AND WHILE STILL PROVIDING WHAT IS NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE NOT JUST NEEDED FOR GROWING CITIES AND COMMUNITIES WITH REGARD TO THE NECESSITY FOR THE TOWER. THE VERIZON HAS CLEARLY THEY'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS AND GOING AROUND AND BUILDING TOWERS, WHERE THEY DON'T NEED THEM. OFTEN THESE PROJECTIONS ARE DONE BASED ON THEIR ANALYSIS OF DATA THAT IDENTIFIES WHERE NEEDS WILL BE IN THE NEAR NEAR FUTURE, AND THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS WAIT UNTIL THE PROBLEM IS TERRIBLE BEFORE YOU START. WHAT IN THIS CASE HAS BEEN A THREE YEAR PROCESS TO DEVELOP A TOWER . YOU NEED TO BE IN FRONT OF THESE ISSUES. OTHERWISE SHE JUST JUST CAN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEMS. SO I'M GLAD TO ADDRESS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE. AND CERTAINLY I'LL BE HERE REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME AFTER THE MEETING TO ADDRESS CONCERNS OF THE CITIZENS YOUR LEASE AND FOOTPRINTS FOR ONE TOWER? YES THAT THAT'S A GREAT POINT AS BEST. I UNDERSTAND THIS. THIS HAS BEEN CRAFTED AND DRAFT IN A WAY THAT IT WILL ALLOW FOR ONE TOWER IN A VERY SPECIFIC LOCATION. THAT IS CAPPED AT 80 FT. AND HAS TO LOOK JUST LIKE WHAT WE'VE INDICATED IN THE DRAWINGS, SO THIS DOES NOT OPEN THE DOOR TO OTHER TOWERS. THIS DOESN'T OPEN THE DOOR TO EXPANDING. THIS DOESN'T OPEN THE DOOR TO INSTALLING THE CHRISTMAS TREE AROUND IT. ALL THAT IS PROHIBITED BY THE UPS IS CRAFTED AND IF IT DOESN'T IT NEEDS TO. THAT'S THE WAY IT IS. THAT'S THE THAT'S THE DEAL AND SO WE'RE OPEN TO ANY RESTRICTIONS THAT AREN'T CURRENTLY IN THE S U P THAT NEED TO BE ADDED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THIS IS IT. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE SCREENING? I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS. ABSOLUTELY, UM WELL, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, WHAT'S REQUIRED BY THE CITY IS LOOK TO STAFF FOR HELP ON THIS IS EITHER A SIX FT WALL OR AN EIGHT FT WALL, AND WE'RE BUILDING IT. TWO FT. TALLER. IT WILL BE A UM UH WROUGHT IRON FENCE THAT SURROUNDS IT. WE FIND THAT'S BETTER THAN THAN BRICK. THE REASON IS AND MAYBE I'M WRONG HERE. MAYBE IT IS BRICK. IT'S BREAD, OKAY? YEAH, IT'S BRICK THAT SOME PEOPLE REQUIRE IT AS SOMETIMES ADVISED CITIES AND SAY, LOOK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH BRICK IS IT'S OPAQUE AND PEOPLE CAN JUMP INSIDE, AND THAT CREATES PROBLEMS. BUT IF THAT'S WHAT THE CITY'S REQUIRING, INSISTING ON, WE'RE GLAD TO DO IT. SURROUNDING THAT BREAK WILL BE LANDSCAPING.
THAT THAT WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE CITY AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT ONCE THEY DEVELOPED THE PART, BUT UNTIL THEN, WE'LL BE TAKING CARE OF IT. AND THAT IS DESIGNED TO SCREEN THE EQUIPMENT THAT SITS ON THE GROUND AT THE BASE OF EVERY CELL TOWER THAT THAT'S AROUND. LOOKS LIKE THAT THAT LANDSCAPING IS 36 INCHES TALL, MINIMUM AT PLANNING. FIVE FT ON CENTER.
BELIEVE WHAT ARE DRAWING SHOWS. CAITLIN, IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY? AND THE DESIGN OF THE SCREENING IS TO OCCUR WITH THE WALL AND THE STRUCTURE. THAT'S CORRECT THE TOWER. WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO PUT YEAH, YOU PUT SOMETHING 80 FT. TALL TO SCREEN AT 80 FT. TALL THING YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO THINGS ALREADY FEET TALL, SO DON'T WANT TO HAULING REDWOODS IN FROM YEAH, YEAH, THAT WOULD STAND OUT AT ALL RIGHT? THE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. THANK YOU, MR GRIFFIN. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
APPRECIATE IT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE APPROVED THE ITEM FOR TRIED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF THE CITIZENS AND HOPEFULLY SOME FUTURE MEETINGS WILL ADDRESS THE FURTHER ONES WILL NOT BE
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COMPLETELY HIDDEN BECAUSE THERE'S NO MATURE TREES THERE. BUT BRAWL INTENSIVE PURPOSES.HOPEFULLY THE RESIDENTS WILL GET A BETTER SPOT WITH THE CITY OWNING IT. AND WHAT DO YOU ARE? HORTON IS APPARENTLY MAINTAINED IT IN A VERY LOW QUALITY IN THE FUTURE. OTHER COMMENTS. AND I THINK MR MAN'S LAST POINT. I THINK A LOT OF THE CONCERN, UM LED TO A LOT OF QUESTIONS, AND I THINK SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED. THAT WILL BE WILL BE VERY HELPFUL TO SOME OF THE RESIDENT RESIDENT. MOVE THE POPE WE CLOSED. THE PUBLIC HEARING IMPROVED THE ITEM PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION. OF EMOTION MEMBERS REMAINS ADD TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND IMPROVE THE ATOM. MM PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR SECOND. TAKING MEMBERS TO DOCK ANY DISCUSSION. THIS CAST YOUR VOTE. THIS MOTION IS APPROVED BY VOTERS SEVEN IN FAVOR, ZERO AGAINST AND WILL BE SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION AT THE MAY 3RD.
2022 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. ARE THE NEXT TIME WILL BE PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING MATTERS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA. IF YOU HEAR DENYING EDWARD LIKE TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS OR CONCERNS ABOUT ANYTHING. NOT ON THE AGENDA. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. ALRIGHT, NEXT MEMBERS.
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ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO AT NIGHT. YOU THINK STAFF ANYTHING, MR ARNOLD? STEPH THANKS, JAKE.THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO APPRECIATE IT IN THE COMMENTS WERE NOT MEANT TO BE CRITICAL OF YOU. APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH YOUR YOUR IMPORTANT PART OF THE PUZZLE. WE DO NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION MOTION WAS CROCODILE TO ADJOURN. SECOND BY MR MAN'S EYE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, AYE AYE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. 7 52, AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.
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