Consider/Discuss/Act on Fiscal Year 2022-23 Proposed Tax Rate, Take Record Vote and Set Public Hearing and Adoption Date

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit Request for a Convenience Store with Fuel Sales (7-Eleven), Located on the Southwest Corner of Wilmeth Road and Hardin Boulevard, and Accompanying Ordinance]

USE PERMIT. REQUEST FOR CONVENIENCE STORE. IF YOUR SALES 7 11, LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WILMOTH ROAD IN HARDENED BOULEVARD AND THE COMPANY ORDINANCE, JENNIFER THANK YOU, MR ■MAYOR. JENNIFER ARNOLD, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING JUST ONE SECOND HERE. I GET MYSELF SET UP. OKAY AS YOU READ . EXCUSE ME, THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR THE OPERATION OF A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS STATION FUEL PUMPS ASSOCIATED WITH IT ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WILMOTH AND HARDENED BOULEVARD. THE SITE ITSELF IS ABOUT TWO ACRES IN SIZE, AND IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED C TWO, WHICH IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DOWNING COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

WITH THAT C TWO. ZONING S SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED FOR CONSIDERATION OF A GAS STATION ON THIS SITE. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A 7 11 GAS STATION THAT WOULD INCLUDE 12 FUEL PUMP SO IT WOULD BE SIX STATIONS, BUT THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR SERVICING OF 12 VEHICLES AT A TIME. UM STAFF HAS EVALUATED THE REQUEST AND THE SITE LAYOUT THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT S U P. WE DO FEEL AS THOUGH IT MEETS THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. WE DO FEEL AS THOUGH THERE IS SUFFICIENT SCREENING AND BUFFERING TO THE WEST, WHICH IS WHERE FUTURE RESIDENTIAL IS ANTICIPATED TO GO . WE ALSO NOTE THAT THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION IS INTENDED TO BE DESIGNED AS A ROUNDABOUT INTERSECTION. WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY LIMIT OTHER TYPES OF COMMERCIAL USES, BECAUSE ACCESS ON ROUNDABOUTS ARE SOMETIMES A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE. SO WHEN LOOKING AT THE REQUEST, LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENT FOOTPRINT OF THE PROPOSED 7 11, WE DO FEEL AS THOUGH IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA AND ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ALSO CONSIDERED THE ITEM AND DID ALSO RECOMMEND APPROVAL IN A VOTE OF SIX TO UM, I DO KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST IN PARTICULAR REQUESTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING ADJACENCY OF GAS STATIONS NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS HERE IN THE CITY WE HAVE STAFF HAS DONE A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH INTO THAT. AS PART OF THIS REQUEST, THERE IS SORT OF A MIXED BAG OF WHERE IT DOES OCCUR. WE DO HAVE A FEW LOCATIONS IN THE CITY WHERE GAS STATIONS ARE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS. HISTORICALLY WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY INCOMPATIBILITY WITH US. WE

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HAVEN'T HAD A NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS OR ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION WITH THOSE, UM AND LOOKING AT THOSE PARTICULAR PROJECTS THAT EXIST. UM, WE DO ALSO HAVE QUITE A FEW OF THOSE GAS STATIONS THAT OBVIOUSLY ARE FURTHER AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL AS WELL. SO THERE'S A BIT OF A MIXED BAG OF WHAT EXISTS HERE IN THE CITY AND THESE GAS STATIONS THAT EXIST.

SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. OTHERS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE RECENT, BUT WE HAVE SEEN THAT HISTORICALLY GAS STATIONS IN PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL DO EXIST HERE IN THE CITY. WE HAVE NOT HISTORICALLY SEEN THAT THERE'S BEEN ANY MAJOR. INCOMPATIBILITY ISSUES OR CONCERNS FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT AND SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. I THINK OUR APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL. WE HAVE THEM UP AND DOWN VIRGINIA AND IN STONE BRIDGES, A NUMBER OF WE DO WE DO? YEAH EVERY QUESTION, JENNIFER. SORRY, MR MAYOR. YOU GO AHEAD. YOU WOULD INDICATED SOMETHING THAT STRUCK ME ON THIS. YOU SAID THAT FORGIVE ME. THESE MAY NOT BE YOUR WORDS. YOU CORRECT ME, BUT A ROUNDABOUT MAKES OTHER COMMERCIAL SERVICES DIFFICULT. I THINK THAT ON THE NORTH, THIS IS ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, I THINK ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER AND ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER GAS STATIONS COULD GO WITHOUT A SPECIFIC USE. PERMIT WHETHER WE APPROVE THIS OR NOT. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY GIVEN THAT OTHER COMMERCIAL. ENTERPRISES MAY BE A CHALLENGE. DO YOU THINK THAT'S LIKELY OR NOT? THAT ADDITIONAL GAS STATIONS COULD GO? IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO SEE TWO GAS STATIONS AT A SINGLE INTERSECTION. YOU CAN SEE THEM CATEGORY BUT THIS IS THE ROUNDABOUT. I'M I'M SPEAKING TO THE ROUNDABOUT ASPECT OF THIS AROUND ABOUT IT COULD BE CHALLENGING TO SEE THAT , UM, AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CONSIDERED WHEN THIS REQUEST CAME IN, BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY DEBATED QUITE A BIT INTERNALLY. THAT HEY , IT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT OVER HERE. YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S THE CASE, WHY DON'T WE SAY LOOK THAT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO HERE? WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT? WE ACTUALLY THOUGHT TO OURSELVES BY CONSIDERING IT HERE ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, IT COULD POTENTIALLY LIMITS OTHER GAS STATIONS COMING IN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HARDEN LIMIT BY THE MARKET BEING SATISFIED ALREADY, EXACTLY, AND THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL. SO THIS ONE. WE DO HAVE RESIDENTIAL THAT'S IN DEVELOPMENT HERE. UM, THE MASTER DEVELOPER. FOR THE PAINTED TREE PROJECT IS OBVIOUSLY STILL HAVE OWNERSHIP OVER THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST. SO THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE 7 11. IT IS COMING IN FIRST, ANY POTENTIAL FUTURE RESIDENTIAL WELL, COME IN KNOWING WHAT IS ADJACENT TO THEM. OKAY UM, BUT I'VE GOT MORE QUESTIONS TO SPEAK TO THIS ONE. IT'S CHALLENGING IT AROUND ABOUT TO HAVE CERTAIN COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. DRY CLEANER, FAST FOOD WITH THOSE CHALLENGING SO WE MAY JUST SHRUG OUR SHOULDERS AND SAY, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO PUT MORE GAS STATIONS HERE BECAUSE OTHER THINGS ARE CHALLENGING. IS THAT A CONCERN THAT WE HAVE HERE? NOT NECESSARILY. BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT AS A STAFF IS, YOU KNOW, PRESERVING THOSE COMMERCIAL CORNERS FOR BUT TO MAXIMIZE THE BEST POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL AND GAS STATIONS ALMOST ALWAYS WANT TO BE AT THAT HARD CORNER. BUT BUT BUT BUT THEY DON'T NEED OUR PERMISSION TO GO ON THOSE OTHER TWO CORNERS. THAT'S CORRECT.

THEY DON'T OKAY. I'VE DONE SOME WORK ON THIS AT LEAST MENTALLY, AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE WORST GAS STATION COULD DEXTER RESIDENTS IN MCKINNEY IN, ACCORDING TO PATRICK. IS IT LIKE FOREST AND VIRGINIA? OKAY 7 11 IS CRAMMED WITHIN FEET OF THAT THOSE HOUSES NOW TO YOUR POINT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S EVER BEEN A PROBLEM. BUT IT STRIKES ME AS THOUGH MAN I WONDER WHAT WHO WAS THINKING? WHAT? WHEN THAT WAS DONE, AND I NEVER REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT UNTIL NOW, BUT THERE'S ALSO ONLY ONE INTERSECTION I CAN THINK OF IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS THAT HAS THREE GAS STATIONS. HIGHWAY FIVE AND ELDORADO. HAS THREE DON'T KNOW WHY. BUT THEY DO REMEMBER WHEN THERE'S JUST A SHELL. SO FROM FROM ME, AND I STRUGGLE WITH THIS ONE BECAUSE FOR ME IF WE ALLOW THIS, HERE WITH THAT'S ALLOWING IS THE PEOPLE WHO BUILD AND PAINTED TREE NEXT TO THAT TO BUILD TO BUILD THEIR HOMES, KNOWING THAT THERE BY A GAS STATION AND PROBABLY ENJOYING SOME LEVEL OF DISCOUNT ON IT, BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS TO BE BY ONE. I MEAN, I WOULD THINK YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A LOT PREMIUM ON IT OUT. YOU CAN JUST GO OVER THERE FOR A BEER, YOU KNOW. SO UM, SO I LIKE THAT. BUT I WANTED TO MITIGATE THE CHANCES OF ONE GOING UP ON PARTICULARLY THE NORTH. EAST CORNER. BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT MORE ROOM THAN THAT. 7 11 ENJOYS IT LIKE FORCE IN VIRGINIA. I WOULDN'T DROVE THIS MYSELF. I KNOW IT'S SO. WHAT I WANT IS RESIDENTS HAVE A CHOICE HERE ABOUT LIVING NEXT TO A GAS STATION. I REALIZED THE FOLKS OVER HERE AT THE NORTH AT

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THE NORTH EAST CORNER ARE GOING TO GET ONE. BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT WITH BUILDING IN THE METROPLEX, WE KNOW HARD CORNERS . GET GAS STATIONS ON MAJOR THOROUGHFARES. WE KNOW IT. I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S JUST THEY'RE SO GIVEN THAT WE ALREADY HAVE TWO CORNERS THAT DON'T NEED THE S U P. MY ONLY CONCERN IS AND YOU'VE GIVEN ME A HITCH ON THIS BECAUSE I WAS READY TO APPROVE THIS TODAY BECAUSE I WAS THINKING WELL, I'M REALLY DOING EVERYBODY A FAVOR ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER BECAUSE I'M NOT PUTTING IT ON THEIR CORNER AND I'M REDUCING THE CHANCES OF THEM GETTING ONE. BUT NOW I'M WONDERING IF I REALLY AM. BECAUSE, UM APPARENTLY, THE ROUNDABOUT LIMITS WHAT CAN GO THERE? AND I THINK YOU'RE YOU ARE YOU ARE CORRECT THERE. THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT A GAS STATION DOESN'T GO IN ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER WHETHER THIS ONE GOES IN OR IT GETS APPROVED OR NOT, FROM STAFF PERSPECTIVE, APPROVING A GAS STATION ON THIS CORNER COULD REDUCE THE LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU WOULD SEE ANOTHER ONE JUST BECAUSE UM THERE MAY BE A PORTION OF THE MARKET THAT IS ALREADY SATISFIED , BUT WE DON'T SEE HIM IN WEST MCKINNEY. WE TYPICALLY DON'T LIKE GET HARDENED IN ELDORADO. FORGIVE ME ONCE IN THE TOM THUMB AT VIRGINIA HARDENED ONES AT THE WALMART, RIGHT? I DON'T EVEN KNOW AND MAYBE YOU ALL DO IF THERE IS ONE OF THE TOM THUMB, IT'S STONEBRIDGE AND VIRGINIA. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THERE'S NOT A GAS STATION ON THE CORNER. OKAY, TO YOUR POINT, PATRICK TO ME. UM THERE ARE OTHER THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT WE CAN DO IS LOOK AT HISTORICALLY IN THE ENTIRE CITY OF 210,000 PEOPLE RESIDENTS. WE HAVE ONE INTERSECTION WHERE IT DOES EXIST . IT GENERALLY DOESN'T AND THE REASON GENERALLY DOESN'T BECAUSE IT'S AN OVERSATURATION, RIGHT WHERE I AM ON IT IS BECAUSE OF THE STATEMENT YOU MADE. I ARRIVED AT THIS EARLIER AS WELL BY LOOKING AT IT AND LOOKING AT THAT'S GOOD. THOSE SAME FACTORS BUT FOR ME PUTTING IT HERE WE CAN TAKE A REASONABLE GUESS THAT IT'S GOING TO DISCOURAGE. THE OTHER CORNERS THAT CAN BE BUILT WITH GAS STATIONS. OKAY THANK YOU FOR THAT, AND I HAVE ONE FINAL QUESTION. IF YOU COULD GIVE ME SOME EXAMPLES, IF YOU CAN'T THAT'S OKAY. BUT WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT HAVE A CHALLENGE ON THE ROUNDABOUT THAT DON'T HAVE A CHALLENGE AT ELDORADO AND HARDEN . RIGHT SO WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE'RE NOT LIKELY TO SEE HERE THAT OTHERWISE MIGHT BE THERE. BUT FOR THE ROUNDABOUT, I THINK A LOT OF THE RETAIL BIGGER RETAIL STOREFRONTS WANT THE VISIBILITY AND THE CONTROL OF A TYPICAL INTERSECTION. THE ROUNDABOUT. SOMETIMES THE ACCESS CAN BE A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING, AND THERE'S JUST CONSTANT CIRCULATION AND AROUND ABOUT THAT. SHE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE TRADITIONAL INTERSECTION WHERE YOU'VE GOT RED LIGHTS AND STOP SIGNS OF PEOPLE ARE STOPPED. SO THINGS LIKE OFFICE IS DONE A LOT. WHETHER IT'S MEDICAL OR DENTAL, PERHAPS EVEN A SMALL, UM, GYM OR FITNESS CENTER. FITNESS CENTER IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD. BUT JIM, OUR PERSONAL SERVICE. MAYBE YOU MIGHT SEE THOSE MORE AT AROUND ABOUT WHERE IT'S TRULY THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE STYLE OF DEVELOPMENT WHERE IT'S SERVING THAT DIRECT ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT TRADITIONAL RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT VISIBILITY AND ACCESS THAT THEY WOULD. WHAT ABOUT FAST FOOD OR CBS? BECAUSE THOSE ARE TWO THAT I WOULD THINK? OKAY THOSE ARE COMING TO CBS WOULD PROBABLY COULD STILL BE SUCCESSFUL AT THE ROUNDABOUT . I THINK A FAST FOOD, MAYBE MORE CHALLENGING JUST BECAUSE IT'S THAT CONSTANT CIRCULATION.

OKAY, THANK YOU. JENNIFER I HAD ASKED YOU ABOUT THE FUELING STATIONS ADJACENT TO THE. SINGLE FAMILY ZONING. HOW MANY PLACES AND I GUESS WE KIND OF DEFINE THIS AS THE MODERN ZONING CODE.

HOW MANY PLACES IN MCKINNEY? DO WE HAVE THE ADJACENCY? ONLY A HANDFUL. MAYBE TWO OR THREE ADJACENCY IS RELATIVELY LOOSE ONES WITH DIRECT ADJACENCY. WE DO HAVE ONE UP AT LAKE FOREST AND WILMOTH THAT IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT. THERE IS ALSO DIRECTOR ADJACENCY, UM, ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF STACY AND ALMA. AND DIRECTOR JASON C. AT THE CIRCLE K AT INDEPENDENCE AND WESTRIDGE.

RIGHT. I HAD ALSO INCLUDED. LIKE FOREST AND VIRGINIA, AND THAT THE ONE THAT COUNCILMAN, CLAUDIO SAID, AND THEN UM 3 80 COMMUNITY. WHERE WE HAVE A RACE TRACK. RIGHT IN FRONT OF US, AND I WILL TELL YOU WHAT STAFFED IT. HMM NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO IDENTIFY ALL OF THE GAS STATION, SO WE LOOKED AT ONES THAT WE CONSIDERED MORE MODERN DAY SO ONES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN THE LAST YOU KNOW, 5 TO 10 YEARS WERE ANY OF THOSE APPROVED THROUGH THE S U P PROCESS. SOME OF THEM WERE THE CIRCLE K AT INDEPENDENCE IN WEST RIDGE WAS APPROVED THROUGH AN SCP PROCESS IN 2015. THE CIRCLE K AT ALMA, WHICH IS THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF STATES AND ALMA. THE GAS STATION

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ITSELF WAS ALLOWED BY RIGHT BUT THERE WAS AN S U P PROCESS TO ALLOW FOR THE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF FUEL PUMPS THAT WERE PERMITTED WAS THAT I'M SORRY. THAT ONE WAS 2015 AS WELL. UM SO THE ONE AT LAKE FOREST, UM. OH LIKE FOREST. AND WHAT IS THAT? WILMOTH YEAH. SORRY. LIKE FOREST AND WILMOTH THAT ONE WAS ALLOWED BY RIGHTS, AND IT HAS DIRECT ADJACENCY TO RESIDENTIAL. THEY HAD A REQUEST FOR AND THAT'S YOU, P THAT WAS ULTIMATELY WITHDRAWN, AND THAT REQUEST WOULD HAVE BEEN SIMILAR TO THE ALMA ONE WHERE THEY WERE REQUESTING. YOU INCREASE THE FUEL PUMPS, BUT THEY ENDED UP WITHDRAWING THAT IN JUST DEVELOPING PER UM, THE LIMITED PUMPS THAT THEY WERE ALLOWED BY, RIGHT? QUESTIONS. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. APOLOGIZE TO ALMOST SKIP OVER YOU. HI UM, MY NAME IS MATTHEW SMITH. AND WITH THE KARA VENTURES, TONY SOME ADDRESS. 26 27 TILLER STREET FOR TEXAS. UM IS THE POWER POINT LOADED? OKAY, I CAN JUST TALK TO YOU. SOME OF THE UM SO THIS IS A 4650 SQUARE FOOT. 7 11 IS ONE OF THEIR NEW CONCEPTS THAT INCLUDES THE LAREDO TACO COMPANY IN IT. IT'S KIND OF LIKE A TACO BAR. CHIPOTLE STYLE. JUST GO DOWN THE LINE. PICK WHAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT. UM THIS IS ALSO A CORPORATE STORE. UM THIS WOULD NOT BE RUN FRANCHISEES WILL BE RUN BY SOME OF THE CORPORATE THE SITE PLAN THAT WE PROVIDED DOES NOT REQUEST ANY VARIANCES AT ALL. UM WE ARE FULLY COMPLIANT WITH EVERYTHING WE WORKED WITH STAFF ON THE TWO D CELL WANES AS WELL ON BOTH SIDES OF, UM DECIDE. TO ACCOMMODATE ANY TRAFFIC FOR THE ROUNDABOUT. UM THERE IS A TALL RETAINING WALL IN THE BACK SIDE OF THE SIDE, WHICH ALSO HAS A SIX FT FENCE. ON TOP OF THAT SIX OR EIGHT FT. BLANKET ON THAT A LITTLE BIT. ALL THE LIGHTING WILL BE CONTAINED ON THE SITE. UM THAT'S STANDARD, SOMEONE PRACTICING CITY ORDINANCE AS WELL. UM, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU'LL HAVE ON THE OTHER CORNERS. UM I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR A WHILE. WE ARE MAINLY A RETAIL DEVELOPER. SINGLE TENANT RETAIL DEVELOPER. UM, THE SOUTHEAST CORNER HAS A CHALLENGES WHERE THERE'S NO CROSS ACCESS FROM THE CHURCH WOULD HAVE TO GO GET THEIR ACCESS FROM THE CHURCH, WHICH IN MY OPINION WOULD BE PRETTY DIFFICULT AS A C STORE OPERATOR TO BE ALLOWED TO HAVE THE CROSS AXIS THERE. ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SIDE. THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF TOPOGRAPHY, AND I BELIEVE LAST TIME I LOOKED, THERE IS SOME WETLANDS RUNNING THROUGH IT, WHICH ARE NOT CHEAP TO MITIGATE. THERE'S WHAT RUNNING THROUGH. I'M SORRY. WETLANDS, OKAY? WHICH ARE USED TO CALL HIM SWAMPS. BUT NOW THE COMMONWEALTH MINUTES AND THEY WERE FANCY. YEAH. UM THE. THE CHALLENGE THERE. I MEAN SOLVING MONETARY CHALLENGES, MAINLY ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. UM YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CHALLENGE THERE WITH THE CROSS ACCESS WHICH YOU ALL WOULD CONTROL. I BELIEVE THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS, WHICH ALREADY DID. UM THIS AND LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A NEW PROTOTYPE. CORPORATE CORPORATELY RUN. VERY NICE. UM BUILDING FACADE. ALL MASONRY, UM YEAH, THAT'S I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. UM HAVE A QUESTION. SO DO YOU HAVE HAVE YOU? HAVE YOU EVER PUT A STORE AROUND AND AROUND ABOUT AROUND ABOUT AROUND ? I MEAN, RIGHT AT A ROUNDABOUT WHERE YOU KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT THERE, WHAT? WHAT'S YOU KNOW WHAT'S BEEN YEARS SUCCESS OR YOUR HISTORY WITH AROUND ABOUT I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY DONE IT. I'VE SEEN HIM IN FLORIDA HAVE SEEN HIM ALL OVER THE PLACE . THERE MIGHT BE SOME HERE IN NORTH TEXAS, ANOTHER ONE IN MANSFIELD. I BELIEVE THEY'VE DONE IT WHERE THEY HAVE A STORE NEXT TO A ROUNDABOUT, CORRECT, OKAY AND I. TENDED DISAGREE A LITTLE BIT ON THE RETAIL SIDE WITH THE ROUNDABOUT. I DO BELIEVE IT DOES. PRESENT SOME CHALLENGES. BUT I MEAN THEY'RE THE ADEQUATE ACCESS IS DEFINED BY EACH INDIVIDUAL USER. I WORK WITH SOME TENANTS THAT DON'T CARE IF THEY HAVE TWO AXES. THEY JUST NEED ONE. ACCESS. 10.4 VERSUS YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW, THE ROUNDABOUT IS, YOU KNOW IT IS WHAT IT IS. I BELIEVE WE'VE GOTTEN COMFORTABLE WITH IT. MY ME AND MY TEAM AND OUR CLIENT HAS SO I DON'T SEE ANY MAJOR, OKAY? MATTHEW I APPRECIATE YOUR EXPLANATION BECAUSE THE QUESTION WAS GOING TO ASK YOU IS WHY NOT ? ONE OF THE ONES LOTS THAT DON'T REQUIRE THE S U P NOW

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SOUTHEAST CORNER WITH THE CHURCH HAVING TO GIVE YOU RIGHT AWAY. I THINK THAT'S AN EXISTENTIALLY PROBLEM FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BUILD A C STORE, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THAT'S REALLY THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. THAT'S JUST NOT GONNA HAPPEN. THERE AREN'T GONNA ALLOW IT. BUT ON THE OTHER LOT ON THE NORTH EAST, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT PRIMARILY CONCERNED BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS IS UP THERE, YOU INDICATED TOPOGRAPHY AND WETLANDS. NOW THAT IS SOMETHING YOU COULD MITIGATE. IT JUST TAKES DOLLARS. IT'S FAIR TO SAY YES AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS IS THAT THE THOSE TWO OWNERS, THEY'RE THE SAME OWNER. THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO SELL RIGHT NOW.

THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY PLANS TO SELL. OKAY CORNERS. YES, BUT ON THE ON OKAY, OKAY. SO ON THE REASONABLE MAN THEORY, THOUGH, THEY'RE NOT HOLDING IT FOREVER BECAUSE THEY LIKE IT THERE. IT'S THEY'RE GOING TO SELL. AT SOME POINT THEY'RE JUST HOLDING ON. IT WOULD BE EXPENSIVE. OKAY THOSE WHAT? THERE'S NEW LEGISLATION THAT. UM YOU CAN'T USED TO BE ABLE TO MOVE NON JURISDICTIONAL WATERS WITHOUT GOING TO BUY. CREDITS. NOW THAT'S IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE. I SEE. OKAY. UM. SO REALLY, THERE'S A DECENT CHANCE THAT THIS ISN'T APPROVED GAS STATIONS NOT GOING TO SHOW UP THERE UNLESS IN THE E. T J ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER. SOMETHING HAPPENS THERE WITH THAT LANDOWNER. SO. THAT I WOULDN'T SAY THAT I JUST HAS NOT BEEN EXPLORED IS FULLY AS THIS SIDE HAS BEEN. THIS HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW MY PROJECT FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. OKAY? THAT'S FAIR LAST QUESTION. I APPRECIATE IT. YOU'D INDICATED ABOUT A RETAINING WALL BEING THERE WHEN I DROVE BY YESTERDAY. THE DAY BEFORE. I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN I SAW A BUNCH OF TREES SITTING OUT THERE WAITING TO BE MOVED RETAINING WALL, NO DEVELOPMENT.

BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THERE IS GOING TO BE A RETAINING WALL WHEN YOU BUILD AND THERE WILL BE A FENCE ON TOP OF THAT OUT THERE BEFORE THIS MEETING, AND THERE IS A RETAINING WALL THAT I MISSED IT. I'M SORRY. TREES ARE PRETTY TALL, SO IT'S HARD TO SEE. BUT YES, OKAY. WAS THERE WITH THE PENCIL ON TOP, OKAY? THANK YOU. HEY MATTHEW. I'M JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT ROUNDABOUT WAS A HIT SONG BY THE BAND CALLED YES. AFTER 1972 FRAGILE ALBUM. YOU MAY NOT REMEMBER THAT ONE. YOUR REPERTOIRE, NOT JUST SAW THAT WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GAVE SOMETHING BACK TO YOU HERE.

APPRECIATE IT. IT AIN'T MUCH, MATTHEW. MATTHEW I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE THE PRESENTATION WE HAD TALKED ABOUT. VISUALIZING THE ROUNDABOUT AND YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S ANY UH UM, I GUESS HINDERING OF YOUR ACCESS WHEN IT COMES TO NORTHERN ENTRY ON THAT ROUNDABOUT COMING OUT OF THAT ROUNDABOUT. NO, NO, I DON'T BELIEVE SO. AT THIS TIME. NO WE THEY'RE ALWAYS BEEN PROVIDED FROM STAFF WAS LIKE A REAL ROUGH DIAGRAM. WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY FULL PLANS AND WE DID. WE DID.

FIND THAT FROM THE CITY REPORTS. UM AND I THOUGHT WE SENT IT IN. MAYBE NOT. OKAY, UM EITHER WAY WITH THE DSL LINES WE DON'T REALLY SEE ANY, YOU KNOW, MAJOR TRAFFIC. YOU KNOW, CONCERNS, SAFETY ISSUES, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THIS IS ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS STAFF WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE HANDS AND EVERYTHING. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF WE HAVE. SPEAKERS UM, NEITHER DONAHUE. COME UP. IF YOUR STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU THINK YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A THREE MINUTE TIMER UP THERE THAT YOU CAN WATCH. JUANITA DONAHUE, 39 44 RIVERBEND STREET, MCKINNEY. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND TRUSTED COLLEAGUES. I REPRESENT TIMBER CREEK. I'M HERE WITH SOME OF MY PEOPLE AND WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT AND THE 7 11. UM NUMBER ONE. OUR COMMUNITY IS DEVELOPING COMMUNITY OF, OF COURSE, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND CONDOMINIUMS SOON, AND WE HAVE LOTS OF FAMILIES, TEENAGERS THAT ARE NEW DRIVERS AND, OF COURSE, THE PEACE AND QUIET OF RECEIVE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE CONCERN WITH THE 7 11 FOR MOST OF THE RESIDENTS ARE SAFETY, TRAFFIC NOISE AND SIGN POLLUTION. UM I DID HEAR THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE THE MODERN NEWS 7 11. THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING TO THE HOMEOWNERS THAT PAID IN EXCESS OF 700,000 PLUS FOR THEIR HOMES. TO HAVE A 7 11 ON THE CORNER WITH A BIG FLESH IN THE RED STEIN, COME HERE NOW. IT JUST DOESN'T SIT WELL WITH SO MANY OTHER RESIDENTS, SO I'M JUST HERE TO SAY, PLEASE CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR PROPOSALS OR YOUR APPROVALS FOR THE COMMUNITY, OUR COMMUNITY IS GROWING AND WE WANT TO LIVE THERE. BUT A LOT OF RESIDENTS ARE AN UPROAR AND UPSET ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING. THEY'RE TALKING PROTESTS AND ALL TYPES OF THINGS AND WE DON'T WANT THAT TYPE OF ENERGY OR TYPE OF ACTIVITY IN OUR COMMUNITY. UM I'VE LIVED IN OTHER STATES AND I'VE LIVED NEAR 7/11 CIRCLE K'S AND ALL THOSE, AND IT'S ALWAYS

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SOME TYPE OF 24 HOUR ACTIVITY. THAT'S NOT ALWAYS GOOD. ESPECIALLY AFTER 12 1 O'CLOCK WITH SUMMER AND TEENAGERS AND SO MANY NEW PEOPLE MOVING TO THE AREA AS YOU GUYS ALL KNOW. UM, AND WITH THAT BEING SAID YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONCERNED WITH THE ACTIVITY THAT GOES ON BETWEEN THE HOURS OF ONE A.M. THREE A. M IN THE MORNING HOMELESSNESS, STRAGGLERS, DRUNK DRIVERS, ALL THOSE THINGS WE HAVE TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION THAT ARE CLOSE TO OUR RESIDENTS. AND THE SECOND THING THE LAST POINT WOULD BE THE SIGNAGE. WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY TYPES OF SIGNAGE. AND I'M HOPING THAT IF YOU DO APPROVE IT, YOU CONSIDER SOME TYPE OF LOW MAINTENANCE SIGN OR LOW BORDER SIGN OR SOMETHING, BUT NOT THE BIG GIANT 7, 11, GREEN AND WHITE AND BLUE. WHATEVER SIGNAGE THAT THEY HAVE JUST TO KEEP THIS THAT OF THE COMMUNITY, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL AND KEEPING MCKINNEY THE WAY IT IS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I DO WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS. GENERALLY I DON'T DO THIS, BUT I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU, UM A COUPLE OF THINGS YOU SAID SIGNAGE AND OPEN 24 HOURS.

MCDONALD'S OPENED IN WHICH THEY CAN BUY RIGHT OPEN, MY RIGHT. GOING ON CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY IS OPEN 24 HOURS. ARGUABLY AND MORE OBNOXIOUS SIGN. AND 7 11. SORRY. MCDONALDS IF YOU'RE WATCHING, BUT BY MY. THAT CONCERN YOU MCDONALD'S HAS I'VE LIVED. WHEN I WAS IN HOUSTON. I LIVED IN AREA CALLED SUGAR LAND, AND WE HAD A MCDONALD'S IN OUR AREA, BUT THEY HAD LOW MAINTENANCE SIGNS. WHEN YOU YOU COULDN'T EVEN THERE WAS NO BIG GIANT DOUBLE M S. IT WAS A LOW MAINTENANCE SIGN IT BLENDED WITH THE COMMUNITY, AND PEOPLE WERE FINALLY ZONING ISSUE THERE.

THAT'S NOT HERE. SO SO PROBLEM MOST PROBABLY IT WAS A IT WAS AN ORDINANCE THAT WAS IN PLACE ASIDE, NOR A SIGN ORDINANCE THAT DID THAT THIS SITE. NOW IT MAY THERE MAY BE A SIGN ORDINANCE ON THE SIDE. IF THERE IS, OF COURSE, 7 11 WOULD HAVE TO ADHERE TO IT AS WELL. BUT IF THERE IS A SIGN ORDINANCE, WHAT I'M SAYING IS WILL BE EVEN PLAYING FIELD WHETHER IT WAS 7 11 OR MCDONALD'S. AS FAR AS SIGNAGE GOES, THEY BOTH CAN BE OPEN 24 HOURS, THEY BOTH WOULD HAVE SIGNAGE. THEY BOTH HAVE THOSE SAME. I DON'T KNOW THAT MCDONALD'S DOESN'T SELL LIQUOR, SO THAT'S ONE POINT AND IT DOESN'T ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO HANG AROUND IN THE PARKING LOTS, UM, BEGGING FOR MONEY OR GAS OR WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO SO IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT.

THAT'S MY CONCERN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. DOREEN TRACEY. HELLO MY NAME IS DORIAN TRACY. I LIVE AT 32. OH ONE HICKORY BEEN TRAIL IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE. MR FULLER AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM, SHE BASICALLY HIT A LOT OF THE POINTS ON THE HEAD THAT I HAD. I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT A LOT OF THINGS THAT, SHE SAID. WE MOVED HERE FROM LEANDER. UM BUT WHAT? THE IDEA THAT AT SOME POINT THAT WOULD BE COMMERCIAL, MORE LESS. UM A DAYCARE OR CLEANERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NOT A GAS STATION. UM FOR ME FOR GAS STATIONS. IT'S MORE THE FUMES AND THE GAS AND THE ENVIRONMENT . IMPACT THAT IT HAS. SO YOU HAD MENTIONED MCDONALDS. I'D RATHER SEE MCDONALD'S THAN A GAS STATION FOR THOSE POINTS. UM WE DO HAVE A Q T TO THE EAST OF US.

WE HAVE THE COSTCO IN THE 7 11 TO THE SOUTH. AND WE DO HAVE THE 7 11 TO THE WEST. UM, WE, UM LET'S SEE HERE, UM. AS FAR AS GAS STATIONS. I DON'T HAVE A MAJOR CONCERN FOR THE GENERAL ONES. IT'S JUST WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOODS FOR US. SO FOR ME IF I LOOK OUTSIDE THE BACKYARD, I'M GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE IT. I'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE LIGHTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. IN THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES THROUGH, UM AND OTHER THAN THAT, I'M WITH IT TO YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS TO HAVE THE BEST INTEREST FOR US IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO, UM, I'M JUST HOPING THAT YOU'LL CONSIDER NOT RATHER THAN PUTTING IT IN AND FOR THOSE, UM REASONS THAT I HAVE I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

UM HAVE A. QUESTION I GUESS IT'S A QUESTION OF THE STATEMENT, BUT IT COULD TURN INTO A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. SAID THAT THE PROPERTY ON THE NORTHWEST NORTHEAST CORNER IS THE SAME OWNER. AS THIS? YEAH, NO SORRY, NORTHEAST AND SOUTHEAST. THEN, UM HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

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SORRY SORRY. MARRIED I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC PERIOD. IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. OKAY, I'LL SECOND SUGGEST A CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS, NOT REALLY NOT THE ITEM ITSELF. CASTRO VOTES. UM I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. AND IT GOES BACK TO THE INTERSECTION OF HIGHWAY FIVE IN ELDORADO.

BECAUSE I'VE GOT PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF WHEN THAT HAPPENED AND WHY IT HAPPENED. UM THE SHELL STATION WAS ALWAYS THERE. OKAY. IT WAS THE FIRST ONE THERE. THEN YOU HAD RACETRACK AND THEN YOU HAD A QUICK TRIP. UM, THOSE ARE COMPETITORS. AND THERE'S SO MUCH TRAFFIC VOLUME THAT INTERSECTION THAT'S WHY THOSE TWO CAME IN. IF THEY COME IN FIRST, THAT SHELL STATION WOULD HAVE NEVER COME IN SO YOU WOULD ONLY HAVE TO THERE. SO UH , COMPETITION DOES HAVE AN EFFECT ON HOW MANY GAS STATIONS ARE OUT OF CORNER. THIS ONE. BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC FLOWS NOT GOING TO BE THAT GREAT. I DON'T THINK WITH THE ROUNDABOUT AND EVERYTHING THERE. UM I THINK IT'S PROBABLY ONLY GOING TO BE ONE GAS STATION. OPINION. HMM. AND SO I WAS. I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT UM. AND I CERTAINLY HAVE NOT ACTUALLY, UH, IT'S JUST A CONSIDERATION RIGHT NOW. HAVEN'T ARRIVED AT MY DECISION YET, BUT UM, I WANT TO HEAR SOME MORE DIALOGUE. BUT YOU'RE ONE OF THE COMMENTS YOU MADE, I THINK WAS DID A DISSERVICE TO NOT INTENTIONALLY. YOU'RE JUST BEING TRANSPARENT, WHICH IS GOOD. BUT WHEN MY THINKING INITIALLY WAS THAT BY APPROVING AND HERE WE COULD WORK SOME THINGS AND THAT COULD BE INTO THAT ISSUE. P AS WELL HAVE SOME DIALOGUE ON SIGNAGE AND THANK STAFF'S ALREADY WORKED WITH YOU ON SOME A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS THAT WERE MAYBE ABOVE AND BEYOND. AND I FELT THAT IT WOULD DISCOURAGE OTHER GAS STATIONS FROM OPENING, BUT THE ARGUMENT YOU MADE IS THAT THE OTHER CORNERS ARE NOT CONDUCIVE IN PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE DEVELOPED INTO GAS STATIONS. KIND OF REMOVE THAT FOR ME. THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG REASONS I WAS . I CAME INTO THIS AND AGAIN HAVEN'T MADE A DECISION YET, BUT I CAME INTO SUPPORTING BECAUSE I FELT AS MUCH AS THERE WAS AN OPPOSITION TO THE GAS STATION ON THIS CORNER. I FELT THAT WITH S U P. WE COULD HAVE SOME OVERSIGHT THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE ON THE OTHERS, TOO. THAT ARE BY RIGHT BUT YOU CAN'T TAKE THAT ARGUMENT AWAY FROM ME BY SAYING THAT YOU'VE LOOKED AT THESE CORNERS AND, UM AND THERE'S NOT THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP THOSE TWO AS AS GAS STATIONS, ONE WILL REQUIRE AN INGRESS ACCESS IS MEANT BY A CHURCH AND THE OTHER IS DEVELOP HAS DEVELOPMENT CHALLENGES, SO I JUST WOULD SAY THAT THAT WOULD, UM, THAT'S HAD AN IMPACT ON. UM YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU'RE THE APPLICANT. MY COMMENT ISN'T REALLY THERE OR IN THE OVERALL ASPECT OF THIS CURRENT I HAD. I MEAN, I HAVE NOT SPENT TIME ON THAT. I SEE CHALLENGES THERE, BUT I WOULD NOT SAY THAT IT'S OUT OF THE QUESTION AT ALL. I MEAN, IT'S. THIS HAS BEEN LIKE I KNOW THIS SITE THROUGH AND THROUGH THE OTHER TWO I SPEND MINIMAL TIME DOING YOU KNOW? PRESENTING TO MY CLIENT. AND WHY WE LIKED THIS SIDE. BUT I DID NOT WANT TO REPRESENTED THAT IT'S NOT ACHIEVABLE AT ALL. I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I MEAN, AND I WAS BEING TRANSPARENT AS I POSSIBLY COULD. LIKE. I REALLY DON'T HAVE A TON OF BACKGROUND ON THAT. SO AND I'LL ALSO SAY, QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T MEAN DISRESPECTFULLY AT ALL. BUT I WOULD ASSUME THAT, OF COURSE, WORKING ON THIS ONE CORNER. AND AS YOU SAID THAT, ALTHOUGH I CAN APPRECIATE THERE MAY BE MORE CHALLENGES AS A DEVELOPER, I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT CORNER IS GOING TO DEVELOP. NO YES, AND IT WON'T SIT THERE BECAUSE OF CHALLENGES ON DEVELOPMENT. IT MAY SIT THERE A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BECAUSE TAKE THE EASIER CHALLENGE FIRST, AND I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS ON THE OTHER CORNER AND THE ACCESS EASEMENT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. AND MAYBE JENNIFER, YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT, WHETHER BECAUSE THEY ONLY NEED ACCESS IS MEANT ON THE ONE SIDE. WOULD THAT BE CORRECT? OR IS THAT YEAH, I WAS SAYING IS THAT AT THE MAIN MEETING BREAK, YOU COULD GET BOTH ACCESS. BUT YOU COULDN'T GET IMAGINE NOT TO USE THE TERM THEY NEED AN ACCESS EASEMENT ACROSS ACCESS FOR THE AT THE MAIN MEDIUM BREAK. I WAS PROBABLY SPEAKING WITH TOO MUCH OF A DEVELOPER THERE, BUT AT THE MAIN MEDIUM BREAK TO USE THE DRIVE THEY HAVE. IT'S NOT SAYING THERE'S NOT A CHANCE YOU COULD HAVE BECAUSE THERE IS A MEDIUM BREAK THAT GOES INTO THEIR THEIR LOCATION. SO. TO UTILIZE THE MEDIUM BREAK. YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO BE TRAVELING ON THEIR GOOD

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JOB AS POSSIBLE ON THAT. AND SINCE YOU ALL ARE DOING THIS REALLY SUPER COOL CORPORATE STORE, YOU DON'T REALLY NEED THAT MUCH AND SIGNAGE. DO YOU MEAN WE HAVE A SOUND PLAN THAT IT'S A SMALL MONUMENT, ADHERING TO BOTH? THE DEVELOPERS, OVERALL PD AND THE CITY REQUIREMENTS THINKING, MAKE THE NEIGHBORS HAPPY. IT'S NOT VERY BIG. YEAH. WHO WOULD MUCH, MUCH RATHER LARGER SONG. YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE SORRY MR MAYOR. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE 7 11 STORES? VIRGINIA HARDEN THIS, OKAY? IS THAT A CORPORATE STORE? AND WOULD WE BUT THAT IS NOT OKAY.

SO A MORE ACCURATE UM. SAME I THINK THAT WOULD BE THAT. TO UTILIZE THE UM, MEDIUM BREAK.

CORRECT ACCESS AMUSEMENT. CORRECT ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE ACCESS ON BOTH ROADS. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A MEDIUM BREAK. YES, SORRY TO CLARIFY YES. OKAY, BECAUSE YOU DON'T DO YOU HAVE AN A MEDIAN BREAK YOU DO ON THE ONE SIDE, OF COURSE, BUT NOT ON THE OTHER. MR MAYOR. YOU SEE RIGHT HERE? YEAH BUT BUT I'M LOOKING ON HIS SITE THAT UNDER SITE ON THE SOUTH WEST CORNER THAT ACTS THAT MEDIUM BREAK DOESN'T BENEFIT HIS SIGHT. FOUR ACRES. YOU JUST HEARD DRUGGING ME AGAIN. BUT OKAY, BECAUSE WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IT'S OKAY. UM BECAUSE I LOOK AT THIS AS ABOUT SAYING THAT IF IT WAS DETERMINED TO UTILIZE THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR 7 11 AND THE ACTS AND THE MEDIUM BREAK DOES NOT IMPEDE YOU FROM DOING THAT, OR DISCOURAGE YOU FROM DOING THAT, THEN IT WOULD BE REASONABLE TO ASSUME THAT SOMEONE CONCERNING THE OTHER CORNER WOULD HAD THAT SAME THOUGHT. BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU BOUGHT THE OTHER PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE IT ON SITE PLANE. SO SORRY. I'M NOT SORRY. I DO? YEAH. YEAH, SORRY. RIGHT? MR MAYOR. ONE OTHER THING I JUST THOUGHT OF IT IS THE NORTH. WEST CORNER. IS IN THE T. J. I MEAN, THEORETICALLY. THEY COULD BUILD THIS THERE TOMORROW. IF THEY CAN GET SOMETHING FROM THE LANDOWNER, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY VARSITY RULES, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, SO THE BIG SIGN UP, RIGHT? THAT'S WHY I CAME INTO THIS MEETING. BASICALLY LIKE WHAT YOU HAD SAID. I WENT OUT. I LOOKED AT THAT AND I SEE THE TJ. THEY COULD BUILD ANYTHING. THEY WANT ANY SIGN. I MEAN, THEY DON'T FOLLOW OUR SIGNING ORDINANCES.

THEY DON'T FOLLOW ANY OF THAT. EVEN OUR LIGHTING COORDINATES FROM THAT MISTAKEN, THEY DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW ANYTHING FOLLOWING HIM ON THE I LOOKED AT THE OTHER TWO CORNERS AS CORNERS THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED, AND I THOUGHT MAN. IF WE HAVE CONTROL WITH AN S U P. WE TAKE IT AWAY FROM EXISTING RESIDENTIAL THAT WE HAD A STRONG POSSIBILITY OF DISCOURAGING THE DEVELOPMENT ON THOSE OTHER CORNERS. SO I CAME IN. WITH THAT. IN MY MINDSET, IT'S THERE. JUST SOME COMMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE THAT THAT QUESTION. BUT THEN I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO SEE YOUR ARGUING FOR NOT ARGUING. YOU'RE TALKING FROM YOUR KNOWLEDGE ON YOUR SITE AND ALTHOUGH YOU. YOU SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE TOUGH. I THINK EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM KNOWS THAT AT SOME POINT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DEVELOPED REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE DIFFICULTY IS. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO CHARGE A CART? THESE LITTLE EVEY CENTERS YOU HAVE HERE? I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF THEM YET. THAT'S NO 7 11 BIZOS. WE JUST INSTALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE FORUM. I BELIEVE THERE ARE THE QUICK CHARGERS THAT YOU SEE. IT'S UM WALGREENS AND IT'S ABOUT 30 MINUTES. 30 MINUTES IS CONSIDERED QUIT. MHM.

EXCEPT LONGLEY. EVEN SLURPEE. YEAH, I DON'T HAVE A SLURPEE. HAVE A MUCH LAWYER TIME. MY PRESENTATION FAST. YEAH YOU HAVE IT ON IN WHAT HAD LIKE TO SEE IT. SO I'VE ASKED HIM HE'S GOT I LIKE TO SEE THE STORE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. UM WHILE HE'S PULLING THAT UP, MR MAYOR, I'LL SAY THAT YOU KNOW, I'M I'M MUCH MORE CONFLICTED THAN WHEN I CAME IN HERE, BUT THE I FEEL THAT I FILL UP A LOT OF TIMES AT MARKET STREET AND DIRECTLY TO THE WEST OF MARKET STREET. IS SUBDIVIDED RIDGE ROAD. THAT HAS RESIDENCES RIGHT BACK THERE. THERE REALLY ARE NO FUMES THAT COME AND HIT FROM THERE, BUT THAT'S REALLY COMPARABLE MORE TO THAT. FROM WHERE THE RESIDENCES ARE NOW ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER, THEN BUILDING UP ON THE NORTHWEST. THIS IS THE BEST CORNER. WE COULD BUILD THAT TO MITIGATE. PROBLEMS TO THE RESIDENCES AS IT EXISTS RIGHT NOW, AND EVERYBODY CAME WITH EVERYBODY ELSE WHO BUYS THERE. IS GOING TO KNOW AND BE EYES WIDE OPEN THAT I'VE GOT

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A GAS STATION. IN MUCH CLOSER PROXIMITY THAN THE FOLKS UP THERE AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER.

THAT'S THAT. THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I CAME INTO THIS MEETING. SORRY FOR THE DELAY, BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SEE MY ONLY. NO MAJOR CONCERN WITH THIS IS JUST THE PROXIMITY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMMEDIATELY WEST OF HERE, I GREW UP IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAD A CORNER STORY WAS A CORNER GAS STATION, AND I HAD I LOVED IT. YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE I LIVED ON THE INTERIOR OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DIDN'T LIVE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THAT. AND ON SUMMER DAYS LIKE THIS, WE WOULD GATHER A GROUP OF FRIENDS. AND WALK TO THE CORNER STORE AND HANG OUT. AND THIS IS WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE SAYING. THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO FOR THAT REASON , THAT'S THE REASON I'M NOT GONNA. BUT THERE ARE NO RESIDENTS THAT BACK UP TO THIS TO THE WEST RIGHT NOW. ARE NO VISITORS. NO, NOTHING DEVELOPMENT THERE RIGHT. THERE WILL BE AND THEY'LL BE EYES WIDE OPEN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUY NEAR ONE THAT ALREADY EXISTS IF IT GOES ON ANY OTHER CORNER. WELL, THE OTHER TWO CORNERS, IT WOULD BE BACKING UP AGAINST RESIDENTIAL RIGHT NOW. I UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERN, AND IF I WERE A RESIDENT PURCHASING IN THAT AREA, I WOULDN'T WANT I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE A CHOICE, BUT I JUST I DON'T LIKE THIS ON THIS CORNER TO ARGUE THE COUNTER BECAUSE I'M STRUGGLING TO, BUT I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS.

YOU KNOW, MATTHEW SAID AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER, WHICH IS WHERE THE RESIDENTS LIVE RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S TOP OF GRAPHICAL CONCERNS BUT COULD BE OVERCOME AND THEY IF WE SAY NO TO THIS, WE'RE INCREASING CHANCES OF ONE GETTING STUCK THERE AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT. I WOULD SAY IT'S A IT'S A CERTAINTY, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS THE CENTER SECTION. THERE WILL BE A GAS STATION AT THIS INTERSECTION. SO THAT THAT IS ALMOST CERTAINTY.

IT REALLY IS. IT'S JUST BASICALLY IN THE IN THE TRAFFIC IN THE. THE THING I WOULD SAY ABOUT THE NORTHEAST CORNER, THOUGH, IS IF THERE IS EVENTUALLY WON THERE YOU'VE GOT IT MUCH DIFFERENT DEPTHS. COMPONENT TO THAT SPACE THAN YOU DO ON ON THE AND I KNOW THAT THAT THEY'RE CONFORMING TO THE S U P UM ON THE ON THE PROPOSED SIDE, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SETBACK IS THERE, BUT I MEAN, JUST LOOK AT THE DUMPSTERS AT THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER OF THE SITE AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE ARE GOING TO BE 30 OR 40 FT FROM A FROM A BACK PORCH VS ON THAT NORTHEAST SITE, YOU'VE PROBABLY GOT TWICE THE DEPTH OF THAT SITE THAN YOU DO WITH THIS AT THIS CORNER. TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SO I JUST I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE APPLES TO APPLES. I UNDERSTAND THE KIND OF IS THIS A PREVENTATIVE MEASURE BY APPROVING THIS OR YOU KNOW, IS IT NOT? BUT I JUST THINK THIS SITE CREATE SOME PROXIMITY, EVEN THOUGH IT CONFORMS WITH OUR RSU P. IT'S STILL PROXIMITY THAT I'M I'M NOT I REALLY LIKE THAT OTHER ONE BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY DON'T NEED AN S. U P AND THEY CAN BUILD ALL THE SAME SETBACKS. I'M JUST SAYING LIKE YOU. YOU WOULDN'T YOU WOULDN'T CREATE THAT. PUT THAT MUCH DEPTH INTO A GAS STATION. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE IT SO CLOSE TO THAT SINGLE FAMILY AS YOU WOULD HEAR. AND SO IF WE'RE JUST WE'RE PICKING ONE OR THE OTHER. THAT ONE HAS A MUCH DIFFERENT LAYOUT ON FROM A DEPTH PERSPECTIVE IN THIS SITE DOES GUESSING THAT I'M GUESSING THAT FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT EXIST NOW CHRISTOPHER MEETING. THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE BUILT THERE. MY GUESS IS THEY WOULD THEY WOULD THEN VOTE TO PUT IT ON. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT COMING. I JUST I WAS JUST MAKING A COMMENT ABOUT THE DEPTH BUT AND I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR BUILD. BUT IF IT'S A QUICK TRIP WITH HIS EXPANSIVE AS THOSE ARE AND AS MUCH DEPTH AS THEY HAVE FROM THE BACK OF THE ROAD FOR ALL THE STATIONS, AND THEN THE PARKING AND THEN THE DEPTH OF THE STORE AND GOING BACK THEN I WOULD WONDER. UM JUST KIND OF LOST WITH THE FACT THAT HOMELESS HANG OUT HERE AND KIDS HANG OUT THERE AND STUFF LIKE THAT OF ALMOST SEVEN ELEVENS, AND I'VE NEVER HAD THAT EXPERIENCE AND I HAVE NEVER I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I'LL SAY THIS, THOUGH, MR MAYOR PRO TEM, I'D SAY IF YOU GO, THERE'S A THERE'S A I BELIEVE IT'S A QUICK TRIP, NOT A RACETRACK. AND ITS WAY OUT OF OUR STOMPING GROUNDS. IT'S ON FORCED LANE JUST TO THE EAST OF 75. MAN.

THAT'S A ROUGH SITUATION RIGHT THERE. THERE'S SOME HANGING OUT. THERE'S SOME BEGGING THERE'S DALLAS. YES, SIR. BUT TO BE FAIR, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT AGREE THAT IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A REALLY TOUGH PLACE, BUT I BECAUSE I LOOK AT THE 7, 11, STONEBRIDGE AND ELDORADO AND WHICH IS A LITTLE MORE COMPARABLE 100% WE DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM HERE IN WEST

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MCKINNEY AGREED. AND I AND I, AND I MEAN, I'VE BEEN THERE AT ONE IN THE MORNING COMING BACK FROM FROM 7 11 THAT THAT I'VE BEEN AROUND FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS AT ELDORADO AND HARDEN. I MEAN, IT'S A GREAT PLACE. I MEAN , WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT, AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THE SAME.

WHAT WE'D HAVE EXPERIENCE FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS WITH THIS ONE. DO YOU HAVE? DO WE HAVE THAT PRESENTATION NOW? SO HERE'S THE WITHOUT SIGNAGE. HERE'S THE FACADE. IT'S THAT SO THE ALL THE MATERIALS WILL APPLY. UH, COMPLY WITH THE OVERALL PD STANDARDS AS WELL AS THE CITY. UM FOR MASONRY. THE. COLUMN WRAPS. IT'S REALLY HARD TO SEE ON FOR THE CANOPY, BUT THOSE ARE WILL BE FULL MASONRY ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP. I'VE GOT A PICTURE OF A COUPLE SOME ACTUAL PICTURES.

YES. SO THAT'S INSANE. ANTONIO. SURE UM, MY, MY GUESS IS THERE'S A MONUMENT SIGN UP FRONT AND THEN THOSE AND THEN THAT'S IT. THERE'S NO ELEVATED SIGN ON A POLE. NO PRETTY GIRLS SIGN ORDINANCE, IT'S NOT ALLOWED. UM HERE'S THE INSIDE OF THE NEW RESTORES AS WELL. UM PERIOD LEVEL. LAREDO TACO. ASPECT. HERE'S A NEW COFFEE BOILING INCORPORATE WITH COFFEE MACHINES THAT YOU KNOW, SORT OF DISCOUNT OF ALL THE THINGS YOU CAN GET A STARBUCKS PRETTY MUCH BUT JUST DISCOUNTED IN. YOU KNOW THE MACHINES THERE. HERE'S THE GRAB AND GO SECTION THEY HAVE NOW WITH THE FRESH FRUIT, UM, SANDWICHES, THINGS LIKE THAT. THIS IS YOU KNOW, DESIGNATED AS A NEIGHBORHOOD STORE. THEY LEND THOSE TWO BEING THE ONE STOP IN THE MORNING WHERE YOU CAN GET COFFEE, GAS, LUNCH AND STUFF ON THE WAY HOME IF YOU NEEDED TO GET WHATEVER. UM, YOU MAY NEED AND THAT'S IT. I GO BACK TO THE OTHER PICTURES, BUT THE OTHER. DISCUSSION. SO I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF COMMENTS BUT NOT NECESSARILY FOR YOU, MAN. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UM JENNIFER , DO YOU KNOW IF THE PD ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER RESTRICTS THE NUMBER OF PUMPS? LIKE THE ONE THAT LIKE FORESTS, AND WILMOTH DID. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IT DOES. BUT IF YOU'LL GIVE ME JUST TWO SECONDS TO REVIEW THE S U P SECTION OF OUR CODE, I CAN CONFIRM THAT I KNOW SOME OF OUR LEGACY. ZONING DISTRICTS LIKE B, G AND B. N DO RESTRICT IT, BUT THE OTHER CORNERS HAVE A BASE OF SEA PLANTS CENTER, WHICH I THINK HAS NO RESTRICTION RESTRICTION. SO I JUST I WAS SHARING MY THOUGHTS ON IT. AND THERE, UM I GUESS. LOOK AT IT FROM TWO WAYS. I THINK YOU KNOW? WHEN WE PLANNED WHEN WE APPROVED THE, UU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THAT ON WHAT WE CALL A GREENWAY ARTERIAL.

IT'S A FOUR LANE ROAD. AND SO I KIND OF PICTURE THIS SERENE. KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD COLLECTOR TYPE STREET WITH LOW INTENSITY ON THE TRAFFIC AND, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO A RIDGE OR A STONE BRIDGE OR SOMETHING. AND NOT A LOT OF COMMERCIAL AND CERTAINLY NOT A LOT OF COMMERCIAL INTENSITY. AND SO I GUESS HERE WE ARE ASKING FOR HIGHER INTENSITY. AND, UM. WE WE'VE PLACED THIS ROUNDABOUT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO KIND OF TAMP DOWN TRAFFIC AND SLOW TRAFFIC AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE PUTTING THEM RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER AND STRUGGLE WITH THAT SIDE KIND OF THE OUTSIDE, LOOKING IN OR FROM THE ROADWAY LOOKING AND BUT I ALSO FROM THE EVEN THOUGH THOSE HOMES AREN'T THERE YET FROM THE HOMES LOOKING OUT, I JUST I'M NOT OKAY WITH THE PROXIMITY THAT WE CREATE TO THESE SORT OF THINGS. UM I THINK IT'S JUST TOO HIGH OF AN INTENSITY NEXT TO A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. INTO CLOSE PROXIMITY. UM AND SO, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT KIND OF, UM. I UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT OF DO WE APPROVE IT? DO WE DO WE CONTROL IT TO PLAY DEFENSE A LITTLE BIT.

BUT I GUESS I'M NOT CONVINCED. THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND ONE OF THESE AT UM, THE OTHER CORNERS, ESPECIALLY IF THOSE CORNERS ARE DELAYED IN GETTING AND BEING DEVELOPED AT I LOOK AT THE MARKET ASKING FOR GAS STATIONS. IN THIS KIND OF THOROUGHFARE AREA OF WILMOTH. BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN DELAYED IN CREATING BLOOMINGDALE. AND SO THIS THIS SITE HAS A MAJOR ARTERIAL TO THE NORTH AND BLOOMINGDALE. IT HAS A STATE HIGHWAY IN 3 81 BLOCK TO THE SOUTH AND HAS HIGHWAY 75 1

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BLOCK ESSENTIALLY TO THE TO THE EAST OF IT. AND I THINK YOU KNOW , A GAS STATION WANTS TO BE HERE BECAUSE IT HAS. IT'S GOING TO HAVE A GOOD TRAFFIC NUMBERS. IT'S GOING TO HAVE A GOOD TRAFFIC NUMBERS IN THE MORNING. AND THEY CAN AVOID DEALING WITH THE HEARTACHE THAT IS 3 80 THE EXPENSE. THAT IS 75 THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW BLOOM DALE HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED AS THE THOROUGHFARE THAT IT WILL EVENTUALLY DEVELOP INTO AND SO I WOULD SAY THAT IF WE DON'T END UP WITH THIS S U P THAT DIDN'T AS BLOOMINGDALE DEVELOPS, YOU WILL FIND THESE INTENSITY USES ALONG BLOOM DALE RATHER THAN A LONG WILMOTH. BUT THAT'S THAT'S MY THOUGHT WAS. I JUST I THINK IT'S TOO HIGH OF AN INTENSITY USE IN WHAT WE'VE ASKED TO BE A LOWER INTENSITY THOROUGHFARE.

YOU KNOW WHAT THE. I'M SURE THERE'S BEEN STUDIES AND I'M SURE I'VE HEARD THEM BEFORE. BUT WHAT IS THE TRAFFIC COUNT FOR A 7 11 VERSUS A MCDONALD'S? I JUST DID DID I KNOW WE'VE CERTAINLY HAVE DONE TRAFFIC STUDIES, AND I'M SURE THAT WE HAVE. I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT WHO MAY KNOW MORE. I DON'T KNOW THAT OFF. THE TOP OF MY HEAD WITH THE DIFFERENCE IN TRAFFIC COUNTS WOULD BE YEAH. FROM THE LOOK OF THE AFRICAN. HE DOESN'T KNOW. ROAD OR LIKE I MEAN, THERE'S AN A KNOWN ESTIMATED TRAFFIC FOR THERE WOULD BE IN AND OUT OF A GAS STATION. THERE'S ONE ON AND I DON'T THINK FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS. I KNOW IT'S NUMBER LOOKS LIKE I DON'T EITHER. I'M ASKING THAT WAS A RHETORICAL QUESTION, ACTUALLY, DON'T KNOW.

CHARLIE, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? I'M THINKING IT'S GONNA HAPPEN ANYWAY. YEAH. WELL, I I'M JUST ALWAYS AMAZED HOW EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED WITH VAGRANCY AND EVERYTHING ELSE HERE IN MCKINNEY , AND MAYBE IT COMES IN 25 OR 30 YEARS, BUT IT DOESN'T EXIST NOW. I MEAN, YOU YOU GO TO ANY 7 11.

I MEAN, WE HAVE TONS OF THEM, AND I'VE ALWAYS KIND OF SURPRISED THAT THERE'S ANOTHER ONE POPPING UP SOMEWHERE. BUT THEY'RE RIGHT. THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO BUILD WHATEVER AND HOW MANY AND ADD TO OUR COMMERCIAL BASE. I DON'T MIND THAT. MM. I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE AT MCDONALD'S PROBABLY HAS THE HIGHER UM, CAR COUNT. I WOULD JUST SEEMED TO ME. UM, BUT AND SO I DON'T. I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH SOMETHING THAT'S EVENTUALLY PROBABLY GOING TO BE IN THIS CORNER AND GETTING IT NOW WHERE WE CAN CONTROL IT, AND THEY WILL HAVE A NICE PRODUCT. SO AND I KNOW IT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR. BUT MY THINKING IS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO MOVE IN. UM IF WE WERE IF WE WERE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO GRANT THIS WAS A REZONING FROM A OFFICE. OR A RESIDENTIAL TO THE SHOES, AND I TOLD THEY WOULD BE ON BOARD WITH THAT ARGUMENT. BUT IT'S NOT THAT IF WE IF THIS IS NOT APPROVED NO. I'M SAYING THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA WANNA SAY I'M SORRY. I LIKE THE APPLAUSE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE IT BACK IN A SECOND. UM A BACKING UP TO THIS. I GOTTA BELIEVE I HAVE A CHOICE BE BACKED UP TO A MCDONALD'S. WITH ALL THE FOOD SMELLS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES ON IN THE TRAFFIC AND THE 24 HOURS. UM I KNOW THAT THAT'S A POSSIBILITY HERE. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE OFFICE ON THIS CORNER. I THINK IT'S COMMERCIAL. AND THE USES ARE GOING TO BE ANY. ANY COMMERCIAL USE THAT PRIVATE WILL BE ON THIS CORNER IS NOT GOING TO FAST FOOD IS NOT GOING TO BE ONE THAT RESIDENTS BEHIND ARE GONNA WOULD CHOOSE IF THEY COULD CHOOSE, BUT HERE'S THE GREAT NEWS. THEY ACTUALLY DO CHOOSE WHEN THEY IF THIS IS APPROVED WHEN THEY COME TO LOOK AT THE HOUSE. THEY ACTUALLY NOW HAVE A KNOWN QUANTITY AND THAT WE'RE MAKING A CHOICE ACTUALLY LIKE THAT, BETTER THAN THIS NOT HAPPENING, AND THEN THEY BY NOT KNOWING AND PEOPLE YOU KNOW THEY BUY, AND THEY ASSUME THAT NOTHING BUILT AND WHEN A WHEN IT STARTS GOING UP AS MCDONALD'S. EVERYONE COMES IN HERE AND MY GOSH, HOW COULD YOU ALLOW THAT? MCDONALD'S IS 24 HOURS IN THE FOOD SMELL, AND IT'S HORRIBLE AND IT'S TRACKS RODENTS IN MICE AND ON AND ON AND ON. AND OF COURSE, WE SAY, WELL, IT'S BY RIGHT SO FOR ME.

KNOWING THAT THAT. IF IT'S APPROVED. THIS IS A KNOWN QUANTITY THAT PEOPLE WILL MAKE THE DECISION. THAT'S THAT'S MORE . I SEE THAT. SO I SAID THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WAS STATED BEFORE. UM GIVE ME A KNOWN QUANTITY OF PEOPLE CAN DECIDE TO LIVE BY VERSUS AN UNKNOWN. I'D RATHER GIVE THEM THAT DECISION. THERE'S A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THRU REQUIREMENTS, THE ON THE SPOT. AND ALSO EVERY RESIDENT AROUND THERE IS GOING TO BE BUYING GAS AT THIS PLACE.

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WE'RE NOT. 2.9 MILES, ANOTHER 7 11. THE STREET. UM COSTCO. I MEAN, HOLD ON. WE CAN'T WE CAN'T HAVE THE I REMEMBER IN COUNSELOR ROGERS TELL ME IF YOU THINK I'M WRONG. WHEN TOM THUMB WAS BUILT.

1998. THE FOLKS THERE AND VISTA OF ELDORADO WERE VERY UPSET ABOUT IT. AND YOU KNOW IT BLENDS IN THESE THINGS BLEND IN. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS GREEN SPACE AND THEN WE DON'T. IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY, AND THEN IT BLENDS IN. AND, UM IT HASN'T BEEN. I WON'T REPEAT. EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SET UP HERE. BUT THE THING THAT REALLY BUGS ME IS ACROSS THE STREET TO THE NORTH. WE HAVE THE IT IS THE WILD WEST. THEY CAN BUILD WHAT THEY WANT. THEY DON'T HAVE TO OBEY ANY OF OUR RULES AND PUT THE SPINNING SIGN UP THERE. AND I'M I WANT TO PROTECT AGAINST THAT LAST ANECDOTAL SHARE. I'VE SAID THIS ONE BEFORE UP HERE ON THE DICE, BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, YEARS AGO, SPROUTS WANTED TO COME TO HARDEN VIRGINIA, AND PEOPLE FOUGHT IT AND FOUGHT IT AND FOUGHT UNTIL SPROUTS WENT AWAY AND SPROUTS WENT TO CUSTER IN VIRGINIA. AND WHAT DID THE FOLKS END UP WITH? WALMART. AND THINGS CAN GET WORSE. UM I'M GONNA I TORN, BUT I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS BASED ON WHAT YOU SAID, MR MAYOR ABOUT FOLKS BEING ABLE TO PICK WHAT THEY BACK UP TO, IN MY DEEP FEAR OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THE IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS AND THAT IS WHERE I'VE ENDED. I'M SORRY. I KNOW IT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR. BUT BUT I FEEL WE HAVE CONTROL NOW, AND PEOPLE HAVE A CHOICE. THAT'S WHERE I'M GONNA. WITH THAT ENTERTAINMENT MOTION. I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

SECOND. CAST YOUR VOTES AND MY REGISTRAR HAS GONE AWAY TOO. GO IN. CAN WE GO TO HAVE A. I MEAN, YES. YES. MOTION PASSES. UM, NEXT ITEM. 220054 Z FOUR CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING TO

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “AG” - Agricultural District to “LI” - Light Industrial District, Located Approximately 700 Feet South of Harry McKillop Boulevard and on the West Side of Airport Drive, and Accompanying Ordinance]

CONSIDER AND ACT ON REQUEST OF REASON. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM AGRICULTURE DISTRICT TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 700 FT. SOUTH OF HARRY MCKILLOP BOULEVARD ON THE WEST SIDE OF AIRPORT, DRIVING A COMPANY AN ORDINANCE THANK YOU, MR MAYOR.

AS YOU READ, THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST. THIS ONE WAS BEFORE YOU . I BELIEVE IT WAS AT YOUR LAST MEETING WHERE THERE WAS A TABLE REQUEST DUE TO A NOTICING ERROR. SO IT IS BACK TONIGHT. THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 1.28 ACRES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HARRY MCKILLOP AND AIRPORT DRIVE FROM A G AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT TO L I LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT. THIS PARTICULAR TRACK IS LOCATED IN AN AREA OF OUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN THAT IS DESIGNATED FOR INDUSTRIAL USES. THE AREA IS ALREADY LARGELY DEVELOPING FOUR SAID, UM, USES THIS TRACT ITSELF IS JUST TRYING TO JOIN THE CREW. I SUPPOSE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST WITH THE APPLICANTS. IT IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONS ALSO CONSIDERED THE ITEM AND IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR JENNIFER. NO IT'S LINED INDUSTRIAL. BUT ONCE THE ULTIMATE END USER DO WE KNOW I WILL DEFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU FOR THE APPLICANT. PLEASE COME UP. POOR GUY THAT'S BEEN SITTING SMELL 7 11 KINDS. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE . MY NAME IS JOHN TEDESCO, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT WITH KIMMY HORN ASSOCIATES TO 60, EAST DAVIS STREET SUITE. 100 MCKINNEY, TEXAS 75069. I AM REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. THE CURRENTLY AN OWNER. THE LAND IS BEING SOLD, UM I BELIEVE ON THURSDAY, UM TO A LOCAL DEVELOPER HERE, THE AUTO HILL REPAIR GROUP THAT'S OFF OF US. 3 80, THE OWNERSHIP TEAM THERE HAS A DEVELOPMENT TEAM THERE WISHING TO REDEVELOP THIS AS A INDUSTRIAL FACILITY HAVE APPROXIMATELY, UM, SITE PLANTED AROUND 13,000 SQUARE FEET.

EXCUSE ME, 12,750 SQUARE FEET MORE OR LESS. THERE IS NO CURRENT PLAN FOR A NEW USER. I SPOKE WITH THE DEVELOPER. UM, YESTERDAY HE'S LOOKING AT KICKS SOME TIRES AROUND WITH SOME POTENTIAL USERS. BUT HE DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN MIND RIGHT NOW, BUT THE EMPHASIS WILL BE ON INDUSTRIAL USE. NO OUTDOOR STORAGE. NO. ANYTHING CRAZY LIKE THAT, JUST AS JENNIFER ALLUDED

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TO JOINING THE CREW THAT IS OVER HERE CURRENTLY. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU. ALRIGHT THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE ENTERTAIN A MOTION. TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. I WILL. SECOND HE'S CAST YOUR VOTES. YES, AMOUNTS. STILL NOT WORKING.

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to Modify the Development Standards and to Allow for Single Family Residential Uses, Located Approximately 1,430 Feet South of Future Wilmeth Road and on the West Side of Future Taylor Burke Drive, and Accompanying Ordinance]

NEXT ITEM 220063 TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AND ACT ON REQUEST TO FREEZE ON THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT GENERALLY TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND TO ALLOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 1430 FT. SOUTH OF FUTURE WILMOTH ROAD ON THE WEST SIDE OF FUTURE TAYLOR BURKE DRIVE AND ACCOMPANYING ORDINANCE. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. AS YOU READ. THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY SEVEN ACRES OF THE PAINTED TREE EAST MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT. THIS ITEM AND THE NEXT ITEM SORT OF WORK IN TANDEM TOGETHER. THEY'RE JUST TWO SEPARATE TRACKS WITHIN THAT OVERALL PAINTED TREE. UM MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY. SO THE RESIGNING REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS JUST FOR SEVEN ACRES WITHIN THE PAINTED TREE EAST DEVELOPMENT THEIR LAKESIDE DISTRICT. THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE TO MODIFY THE FRONT YARD SETBACK REQUIREMENT FOR THE SHOWCASE LOTS THAT WILL LEAD INTO THE PRIMARY AMENITY CENTER KNOWN AS THE OUTPOST FOR THE LAKESIDE EDITION. THE REQUEST WOULD ALLOW FOR ABOUT 20 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, UM. YES THAT'S CORRECT. ONE WOULD ALLOW FOR APPROXIMATELY 20 RESIDENTIAL LOTS TO REDUCE THAT FRONT YARD SETBACK FROM THE TYPICALLY REQUIRED 20 FT TO 10 FT STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT REDUCTION IN THE FRONT YARD SETBACK. THE LOT SIZES FOR THESE PARTICULAR TRACKS OR 70 FT WIDE LOTS IN THE IDEA IS TO HELP EMPHASIZE THAT STREET INTO THAT OUTPOST AMENITY CENTER, SO THIS WILL ALLOW FOR THE LOTS TO OR THE UNITS TO BE PULLED A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE STREET. TO HELP CREATE THAT MASSING AND SCALE FOR THAT STREETSCAPE AND OPEN UP THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY FOR PERHAPS DETACHED GARAGES OR OTHER ITEMS. SO, UM, WE ARE REVIEWED TO REQUEST WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAS ALSO REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND IS OFFERING A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. AND I KNOW OUR APPLICANT IS IN THE BACK AS WELL. QUESTIONS FOR JENNIFER. THANK YOU WITH THE APPLICANT, PLEASE COME UP. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL. IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN UP HERE. UH WE'RE STILL PROGRESSING AND PAIN INJURY BUT DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING MUCH TO HAVE. I MEAN, THIS IS ALL PART OF THE BIG MASTER PLAN. PROBABLY MORE OF THE OVERSIGHT. MORE THAN ANYTHING WE WERE DOING. THE PD IS YOU KNOW, THESE ARE SOME OF OUR LARGEST LOTS AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THE PORCHES AND THAT STREETSCAPE SCALE BETTER. UM YOU KNOW, IN RELATIONSHIP TO WHAT THE OVERALL VISION IS.

QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE THAT LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? SHOULD HAVE HAD YOU GUYS UP FRONT. LAST COUPLE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION BECAUSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVES ASYLUM. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. CUT.

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to Modify the Development Standards and to Allow for Single Family Residential Uses, Located Approximately 480 Feet North of Future Wilmeth Road and Approximately 650 Feet West of County Road 943, and Accompanying Ordinance]

PASSES ARE FINAL. ONE IS CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ACT ON REQUEST OF HIS OWN SUBJECT. PROPERTY FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT GENERAL TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND ALLOWED FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 480 FT. ANY ROAD 9 43 AND ACCOMPANYING ORDINANCE, JENNIFER THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. SAME SONG, DIFFERENT VERSE. THIS IS THE PAINTED TREE NORTH ZONING LIKE THE MUSIC REFERENCE. THANK YOU GO THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST. IT'S IT IS A MIRROR IMAGE OF THE ONE YOU JUST CONSIDERED, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR APPROXIMATELY 15 ACRES OF THE WOODLANDS DISTRICT.

THE PAINTED TREE DEVELOPMENT. TO HAVE REDUCED FRONT YARD SETBACKS FROM 20 FT. TO 10, ALTHOUGH THESE UNITS ARE NOT LEADING TO ANY SORT OF AMENITY FEATURE OUTPOST, THEY ARE THE PRIMARY.

IT IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY INTERESTS IS INTO THE WOODLANDS DISTRICT, AND SO THEREFORE THEY WANT TO DO THAT SAME SHOWCASE OF THE STREETSCAPE MOVING INTO THIS PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS STAFFS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, AS DID PLANNING AND ZONING

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COMMISSION. QUESTIONS. SURE. APPLICANT YOU CAN. OKAY I WAS HOPING YOU WERE GONNA SAY THAT.

MAKE A MOTION TO DENY IT. OKAY, UM SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. MR BERRY MOVED. WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE APPROVED. THIS ITEM IS PRESENTED. ONE SECOND CAST YOUR VOTES. THAT CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA OF ACTION ITEMS.

[CITIZEN COMMENTS ON MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA]

CITIZEN COMMENTS ON MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA. I DON'T SHOW ANYONE WHO SIGNED UP. THERE'S ONE UM BERNSTEIN, WILLIAMS. NO I'M STEVE. I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO YOU. I SHOULD HAVE HAD NO POLICE COME UP. I M I DID NOT THINK IN THE BEGINNING. I COULD HAVE HAD YOU SPEAK THEN AND I REALLY APOLOGIZE. I DIDN'T DO THAT. YOU STAYED THIS WHOLE TIME. ENJOYED THIS WONDERFUL MEETING. WOW BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, COUNCIL PEOPLE, MADAM. UM WHAT I WAS CONCERNED WHENEVER AT THE COMMUNITY IMPACT. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RENTAL PROPERTIES. SO UM, UM MY CONCERN IS THAT I'M A HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER RECIPIENT. AND, UM RAED LIVE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY PUT SO MUCH THOUGHT INTO HOW. WE ARE BUILDING THESE ANTIQUATED IT.

YOU STACKING PEOPLE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER, AND THEY'RE IN MY OPINION, TOO CLOSE TOGETHER OVER THERE OFTEN. MACKINNON RANCH AND NOW ON COLLIN MCKINNEY AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MORE OF THESE YOU KNOW MINI A TOUR. MONSTER'S BILL THAT'S GOING TO CALL THE EVENTUAL PROBLEMS. SO I HOPE BECAUSE I'M LISTENING TO EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID TONIGHT AND IT WAS ORDAINED BY THE FATHER THAT I HEAR IT. THAT WE PUT A LOT MORE THOUGHT INTO BUILDING THOSE ARE BUILDING THEM BECAUSE STACKING PEOPLE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER RIGHT NOW I LIVE AT. UM I LIVED IN PLAYING ALMOST OF MY LIFE. I MEAN, MOST OF THE TIME I'VE BEEN IN NORTH TEXAS, SO THIS IS A BRAND NEW PROBLEM FOR ME BECAUSE I'VE NEVER LIVED IN A QUOTE UNQUOTE. PUBLIC HOUSING SITUATION. UM WHEN I MOVED HERE, OF COURSE I HAD A HOME. AND SO BECAUSE OF THE AREAS BECOME SO CONGESTED WITH PEOPLE NEED AND DECENT PLACES TO LIVE PEOPLE HOUSE ENTRANCE VOUCHERS DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.

WE'RE KIND OF STUCK IN BETWEEN THE ROCK AND THE HARD PLACE AND THE ROCK AND HARD PLACE IN THE ROCK AND HARD PLACE. NO AMENITIES THERE IS IT IS JUST THE SADDEST THING I'VE EVER EXPERIENCED. AND, UH, I HOPE THAT, UM. WHEN WE BUILD THESE RENTAL PLACES, UM, THAT WE CAN STOP DOING THE OLD ANTIQUATED ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM. AND STARTE HOUSE INTROSPECT ACTUALLY KIND OF SLIPPING, MAN. SLIP THEM INTO THESE OTHER PLACES. DID YOU BUILDING I'VE BEEN WHERE I AM.

SINCE 2015. I FEEL STUCK. WE'VE HAD MOLD WE'VE HAD RAT ROACHES. NOW WE GOT WOOD BEETLES. UM I'VE BEEN AFFECTED BY, UM SOME GROW MO GROWTH AND ON AND ON. BUT UM , IT'S SUPER UNSAFE. UNHEALTHY IS UNKIND, YOU KNOW, TO PUT PEOPLE IN THESE SLEEPING SITUATIONS THAT ARE NOT CONDUCIVE TO HEALTHY LIFESTYLES . IT'S JUST IT'S NOT WORKING. I WISH SOMEBODY IN AMERICA WHICH JUST KIND OF STAND UP AND SAY WE'RE GONNA STOP DOING IT. WE'RE GONNA STOP DOING IT. I LIVE ON A PARKING LOT. WHEN CAN YOU RANCHES RIGHT HERE IN THE PARKING LOT IS RIGHT HERE. RIGHT HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT PLEASE. CAN WE, YOU KNOW, START A NEW WITH STICKING PEOPLE AND ME, SO RIGHT HOLES THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELCOME. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT COUNCIL AND MANAGER

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