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[CALL TO ORDER]

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CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER. THIS IS A CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING AND IT IS 6 13 IN THE EVENING TUESDAY, AUGUST 2ND YEAR 2022 YOU'RE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 2 22 NORTH TENNESSEE STREET, GREAT CITY OF MCKINNEY. THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS WILL BE AN INDICATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE SEE INDICATION WILL BE GIVEN BY DR BILL ROSS, NET OF NORTHWEST CHRISTIAN CHURCH AND THEN WHEN HE HAS DONE IF HE REMAINS STAINING WILL DO THE POINT OF ALLEGIANCE. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. LET US PRAY. HOLY GOD BECOME TODAY ACKNOWLEDGING YOU AS THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE AND THE GIVER AND SUSTAINER OF LIFE. WE THANK YOU, LORD FOR THE GIFTS YOU'VE GIVEN TO US. THE GRACE YOU'VE SHOWN TO US. AND THE MERCY. WE THANK YOU, LORD THAT WE COULD LIVE IN A CITY WITH SUCH A GREAT PROMISE. WE THANK YOU, LORD FOR LEADERS WHO WILL LEAD US INTO THE FUTURE. WE ASK YOU LORD TONIGHT TO BLESS THE MEETING. WE ASK YOU, LORD TO GIVE. THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THE WISDOM THEY NEED TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS. THAT ARE BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY. EMPOWER THEM BECAUSE ALL KNOWLEDGE ULTIMATELY COMES FROM YOU. PRAYER IS THAT WE ALL INCLUDING THEM. MIGHT SEEK YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND YOUR POWER AND YOUR INSIGHT. WE PRAY IN JESUS' NAME. AMEN. AMEN. DID YOU LEAVE THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE WORLD. ALL RIGHT. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS RECOGNITION OF MARCHING MUSIC

[Recognition of Marching Music Made in McKinney and Drum Corps International]

MADE MCKINNEY AND DRUM CORPS INTERNATIONAL DEAN. RIGHT INTO IT. ALL RIGHT? YES THANK YOU. MR MAYOR. APPRECIATE THAT MAN INTERRUPTED A LITTLE STORY. THIS IS DEAN SIMMONS. SOME OF YOU MAY NOT KNOW HIM. I'VE KNOWN DEAN FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND AS A STARTED WORKING ON THE COUNCIL OF 56 YEARS AGO, I STARTED NOTICING DEAN'S NAME MORE AND MORE FREQUENTLY IN OUR PRINTED BROCHURES OF THE WORK HE DOES BEHIND THE SCENES. AND I KNOW THAT DEAN WAS HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THE DRUM CORPS INTERNATIONAL AND GETTING THEM HERE TO TOWN. AND THIS WEEKEND OR THIS PAST WEEK AT THE DRUM COURT FESTIVAL , I ASKED DEAN, I SAID, HOW DID THAT COME ABOUT? AND DEAN SAID THAT HE WAS HAVING LUNCH WITH THE MAN WHO KNEW THE PRESIDENT OF DRUM CORPS INTERNATIONAL. AND THE SUBJECT CAME UP THAT THEY NEED. WE'RE LOOKING FOR A NEW STADIUM IN NORTH TEXAS TO HOST SOME OF THEIR EVENTS AND BEING PROMPTLY REPLIED, WELL, I JUST GAVE THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, A BRAND NEW STADIUM, AND HE TOOK IT FROM THERE WENT UP TO THE CATERED TO MEET WITH THIS GENTLEMAN WHO WAS PRESIDENT OF DRUM CORPS INTERNATIONAL, AND HE SAW THE OPPORTUNITY SEIZED ON THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYBODY HERE IN MCKINNEY. AND JUST REALLY WENT WELL OUT OF HIS WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT MCKINNEY COULD BE THE HOST IS SUCH A WONDERFUL EVENT. I DON'T THINK THAT ANYONE WHO WAS THERE THIS PAST WEEK DID NOT ENJOY THEMSELVES FULLY BECAUSE IT WAS A TREMENDOUS TREAT FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GAVE YOU A LITTLE RECOGNITION FOR TAKING THE INITIATIVE AND DOING ALL THE HARD WORK TO GET THAT PROGRAM HERE, AND I KNOW YOU BROUGHT SOME FOLKS WITH YOU THAT YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE AS WELL. BUT THANK YOU. DEAN I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY AND WE ALL DO. AND I JUST SAID THAT THAT WAS A SIX YEARS IN THE MAKING, WORKING ON THIS FOR SIX YEARS TO BRING THIS EVENT. IT WAS NOT. IT WAS STARTED, AS WAS JUST SAID. AND THEN IT WAS SIX YEARS OF WORK AND PERSEVERANCE. TO DO WHAT YOU DID AND MAKE THIS HAPPEN HERE IN MCKINNEY, SO SIX YEARS OF WORK AND DEDICATION, THAT'S IT. YOU STUCK WITH IT TENACIOUS AND EUROPE HERE IT HAPPENED SO YEAH , AND THANKS. UH CHARLIE, WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR A LONG TIME. AND THANKS FOR THOSE KIND WORDS AND MR MAYOR TOWARDS THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT, AND DR FULTON'S YOU HAD A CHANCE TO BE THERE. AND MR BELLA, YOU HAD A CHANCE TO BE THERE AS WELL. AND IT WAS REALLY WONDERFUL EVENT FOR MCKINNEY. AND I KNOW MY TIME IS LIMITED. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANKS. IT WAS, YOU KNOW, ALL ALL IDEAS. START WITH THE SPARK THAT ONE CONVERSATION. IT WAS ACTUALLY, MY WIFE, LIZ, WHO WAS ON THE BOND COMMITTEE AND SHE WAS PART OF THAT. ENTITY THAT HELPED CREATE THE BOND. AND I SAID, WELL, WE HAVE NOW GOT THIS COMMITMENT TO THE CITY AND THE CITIZENS OF MCKINNEY. LET'S LET'S REALLY KIND OF FULFILL THAT COMMITMENT. SO AS A GROUP EFFORT, WE HAD GREAT SUPPORT FROM THE CITY. MR MAYOR, YOU ARE INVOLVED. THERE'S MANY TIMES THAT WE TALKED, MR GRIMES, YOU AS WELL VISIT MCKINNEY WAS A PARTNER ALL ALONG. DR MCDANIEL AND I'M ASD WAS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL, OBVIOUSLY PULLING OFF AN EVENT LIKE THAT WITH 80 VOLUNTEERS IN THAT STADIUM THAT

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NIGHT HOSTING 5000 CITIZENS, NOT JUST FROM MCKINNEY. WE'RE WAITING FOR THE DATA FROM D. C, BUT WE EXPECT THAT WE DREW PEOPLE FROM AS FAR AWAY OR TWO OR THREE HOURS BECAUSE IT WAS A GREAT SHOW AND WE HAD A GREAT LINE UP IN A GREAT VENUE, AND HE DID. BUY INTO IT. OUR VISION FOR DAY ONE, WHICH WAS NEVER JUST AN EVENT. IN THE STADIUM. IT WAS THE COMMUNITY OF MCKINNEY AND OUR PASSION FOR MUSIC WRAPPING AROUND D C I AND HOSTING THOSE PERFORMERS 1000 PERFORMERS IN THE STADIUM THAT NIGHT IN A WAY THAT WAS JUST FANTASTIC. IT BEAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS. WE BLEW AWAY THEIR SINGLE DAY TICKET SALES, AND WE CERTAINLY EXCEEDED OUR EXPECTATIONS AS A COMMITTEE AND WHAT WE COULD DO. SO THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT FROM ALL OF YOU FOR THE GREAT CITY OF MCKINNEY, ALL THE PEOPLE AND CERTAINLY FOR ANY OF THE CITIZENS WHO SHOWED UP AND THANKS FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. I APPRECIATE YOU BRING WITH YOU. WELL I HAVE LIZ, MY WIFE WHO WAS ON THE BOND COMMITTEE. WHO? SOME OF YOU KNOW . AND THEN OUR DAUGHTER, OLIVIA , WHO WAS THE CHIEF DAUGHTER VOLUNTEER AT THE STADIUM THAT NIGHT, ALONG WITH THE OTHER 80 PEOPLE. UM THEY'RE HERE. I KNOW THAT THEY THE PERFORMERS AND TEAMS LIKE SAID THAT THE EXPERIENCE THEY HAD HERE WAS UNLIKE ANY OTHER EXPERIENCE, AND NOW THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU'RE TALKING WITH THEM ABOUT HOW TO MAKE THIS A MULTI DAY. I MEAN, THEY'RE THEY'RE LOOKING AT MCKINNEY AS THIS PLACE THEY WANT TO NOW. COME STOP. YEAH AND SPEND IT TWO OR THREE DAY PERIOD WON A COMPETITION, THEN TOO, RIGHT? YEAH MR MAYOR. THE THESE DRUM CORES AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE THERE THAT NIGHT, AND THIS IS HOW THESE COLLEGE STUDENTS ARE SPENDING THEIR SUMMER VACATION. THEY'RE TRAVELING ON BUSSES. THEY'RE SLEEPING ON GYM FLOORS AND ON BAND BAND BAND HALL FLOORS AND THEN PERFORMING IN WHETHER OF ALL KINDS AND THE VISION WAS NOT JUST THAT MCKINNEY WOULD WRAP WOULD KIND OF WRAP OUR ARMS AROUND THEM AND A COMMUNITY FASHION. BUT IT WOULD GET THE DRUM CORPS IS A PLACE TO PARK FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AND TO NOT BE ON THE ROAD, TRAVELING OVERNIGHT FROM ONE VENUE TO THE NEXT AND THAT WE SAW IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO GIVE OUR STUDENTS IN THE AREA CHANCE TO HAVE VERY RICH EXPERIENCES IN DIFFERENT KINDS OF CAMPS. SO THINK ABOUT, UM, THE CALIBER OF THOSE MUSICIANS GETTING IT. AND OUR STUDENTS GETTING A CHANCE TO BE AT A AT A DRUM CAMP, BUT A BRASS CAMP AT A COLOR GUARD CAMP AND, UM AND WE CAN BE THAT LOCATION AND TOPS I SHOULD HAVE NAMED TOPS. TOPS HAS BEEN A FANTASTIC PARTNER, AND OUR COMMITTEE IS SO EXCITED ABOUT THAT NEW FACILITY AND I KNOW ALL OF YOU HAVE PUT TREMENDOUS SUPPORT AND EFFORT INTO IT. AND SO WE'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH KEITH AND THE TOP SCREW ON WHAT WE CAN DO. AND THAT NEW VENUE FOR NEXT YEAR AND THEY HOSTED FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW THEY HOSTED THE EVENT THE NIGHT BEFORE, WHICH WAS SOLD OUT AND PACKED. WE HAD A VERY LOUD DRUM LINE BATTLE AND TUFTS BREWERY METAL ROOF AND IT WAS WE SOLD THE AIRPLANES AND THEN A LOT BOUGHT, BUT IT WAS IT WAS AGAIN BEYOND WHAT WE EXPECTED. WE SOLD THAT EVENT OUT. WE SOLD OUT THE STADIUM AS WELL. AND SO NOW THE CHALLENGE IS HOW DO WE EXPAND AROUND THIS AND FULFILL THAT OBJECTIVE OF MCKINNEY HOSTING THAT THOSE WORLD CLASS DRUM COURSE FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS? AWESOME GREAT JOB. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA

[PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS (For Non-Public Hearing Items)]

ITEMS AND DO WE HAVE TO HAVE ONE? UM JR MORTENSEN. ER, SORRY. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. BY THE WAY, IT'S GR. YES, I I'M SORRY. ONLY YOU AND THE AIR FORCE KNOW ABOUT THAT. UM I APPRECIATE THE TIME TO APPEAR. DENY IT. I AM HERE TO DISCUSS OR TO PRESENT TO YOU ABOUT YOUR BUDGET SETTING AND TEXT SETTING PROCESSES. I'M NOT HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR PARTICULAR TAX RATE OR THIS. THAT OR THE OTHER. I KNOW IT'S A TREMENDOUSLY COMPLEX TASK AND PROCESS. I AM A MEMBER OF THE COLLIN COUNTY APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD. AND HAVE HAD THE CHANCE TO BE WELL. IN THE CASE OF ALMOST 100,000 TAX PROTESTS THIS YEAR AND APPRAISALS QUITE CLOSE TO A NUMBER OF THE TAXPAYERS FROM MCKINNEY AND, OF COURSE, MANY OTHER JURISDICTIONS. IN THE COUNTY IN COLLIN COUNTY. AND WHAT I AM HERE TO. TRIED TO SET IN YOUR MIND. IS A MINDSET FOR THIS YEAR. UM IT IS A FACT. THAT THE APPRAISALS OF REAL PROPERTY AND COLLIN COUNTY BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.

COUNTYWIDE AVERAGE 28% THIS YEAR. WHICH LET ME SAY IS A RECORD. AND THE COLLIN COUNTY

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APPRAISAL DISTRICT. IS OBLIGATED BY STATE STATUTE. TO APPRAISE PROPERTIES AT FULL, FAIR MARKET VALUE. AS OF JANUARY, 1 2022. WELL. YOU KNOW, AT LEAST IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN MCKINNEY. UM.

HOW'S ABOUT THE PEAK OF SOME OF THE CRAZINESS THAT WAS GOING ON IN THE MARKET? SO I ASK YOU TO KEEP THAT INTO MIND AND THAT INSTEAD OF FOLLOWING. UM BUSINESS AS USUAL APPROACH. TO YOUR TAX SETTING PROCESSES THIS YEAR. THAT THE MINDSET PROCEED WITH TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE EXTRAORDINARILY UM APPRAISAL RESULTS. THAT HAPPENED IN THE COUNTY ON REAL ESTATE IN REAL PROPERTY TAXES ARE PROBABLY THE MOST. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEY'RE SORT OF A FIXED RATE SETTLEMENT SET THESE TAX RATES ONCE A YEAR. YOU CAN'T LOOK AT IT BACK IN MAY OF NEXT YEAR AND DECIDED WE SAID , A TAX RATE THAT'S TOO HIGH FOR OUR RESIDENTS. OR TOO LOW FOR THE CITY. YOU YOU HAVE TO BE.

YOU KNOW, LOOK FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE, AND I KNOW THIS IS A DIFFICULT JOB. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT JUST VERY QUICKLY THAT EVEN WITH THE PROPOSED 7.7. TAX RATE REDUCTION. FOR 2023 THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR MORE ABOUT TONIGHT AND A LOT MORE ABOUT LATER. THAT AMOUNTS TO A FIVE YEAR AVERAGE OF ABOUT 2.6. REDUCTION ANNUALLY. I'M GONNA TIME ALREADY, UM ANYWAY, THE BOTTOM LINE IS PLEASE TIGHTEN YOUR BELT. YES SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING AS WELL. I WILL COME BACK AND ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT A FUTURE TIME. I'M SORRY TO SAY THAT MY GRANDDAUGHTER PROVIDED ME WITH A REALLY BAD COLD. SO I'M LEAVING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. CONSENT AGENDA. ADAMS CONSISTENT NONCONTROVERSIAL HOUSEKEEPING

[CONSENT AGENDA]

NAMES REQUIRED BY LAW AND MAY BE CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY BY ANY COUNCIL MEMBER, MAKING SUCH REQUEST PRIOR TO EMOTION TO VOTE. AND VOTE ON THE CONSENT ITEMS. IS THERE ANY ITEM ON CONSENT? THAT ANSWER WOULD LIKE TO PULL DOWN TO DISCUSS IF NOT ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THE CONSIDER AGENDA SECOND. IS CASH FOR VOTES. REGULAR AGENDA. PUBLIC

[Consider/Discuss/Act on Fiscal Year 2022-23 Proposed Tax Rate, Take Record Vote and Set Public Hearing and Adoption Date]

HEARING ITEMS PORTION OF JENNA CONSISTS OF ITEMS REQUIRING INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION BY THE COUNCIL OF FIRST ITEM IS 2 TO 071 TO CONSIDER AN ACT ON FISCAL YEAR 2022 23 PROPOSED TAX RATE TAX OR TAKE RECORD VOTE AND SET PUBLIC HEARING ADOPTION DATE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

TONIGHT WE BEGIN THE PROCESS OF SETTING THE PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 ACTION TONIGHT. WILL SET THE TAX RATE CEILING SCHEDULE OUR TAX RATE PUBLIC HEARING AT A LATER DATE AND THEN ALSO SET THE ACTUAL DATE OF THE ADOPTION OF THE TAX RATE. SO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, TONIGHT WE WILL PASS ARE ASKING TO PASS A THIS WITH SPECIFIC WORDING IN A MOTION THAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. UM THIS ONE IS REQUIRED FOR PROPOSING THIS TAX RATE. BUT TONIGHT WE'RE PROPOSING A TAX RATE CEILING AT ABOUT JUST UNDER 46. CENTS 460.459547. FOR CONTRAST, OUR CURRENT TAX RATE THIS YEAR IS SET AT 49.7 CENTS. SO, UM, SETTING A CEILING TONIGHT WOULD BE ALMOST A FOUR CENT DROP IN THE OVERALL TAX RATE. I WILL SAY THAT THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED TAX RATE THAT YOU WILL SEE IN THE BUDGET. UM AND WE WILL BE. WE HAVE A BUDGET WORKSHOP ON AUGUST THE 12TH. UM THAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE LESS THAN THE CEILING AS HIS FAIRLY TRADITIONAL. THIS IS TO GIVE YOU THE COUNCIL THE ABILITY TO SET WHATEVER TAX RATE THAT YOU SO CHOOSE, BUT SAY MANAGERS TAX RATE IS LESS UM, I WANT TO JUST GO OVER WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING HERE TONIGHT. NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS A CALCULATED, RIGHT? UM IT PROVIDES THE TAXING UNIT, WHICH IS ASKED THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE RECEIVED IN THE YEAR BEFORE ON PROPERTIES TAX IN BOTH YEARS. SO THAT MEANS THAT AS VALUES RISE, THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE WOULD GO DOWN. AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE, WHICH IS SET AT 3.5% THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE. UM AND IF YOU GO

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ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE, OR THE 3.5% VOTER APPROVAL RATE ELECTION WOULD BE REQUIRED. NOW THERE IS AN INSTANCE WHERE YOU COULD. THERE'S A TAX RATE INCREMENT THAT WE DIDN'T USE IN PREVIOUS YEARS THAT WE COULD GO EVEN HIGHER. BUT YOU'RE WE'RE ASKING YOU TO SET THE CEILING TONIGHT IT LOWER THAN THE 3.5% SO LET'S NOT EVEN WORRY ABOUT THE ACTUAL INCREMENT RATE. UH I DO WANT TO SHOW YOU THESE RATES COMPARISON YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TAX RATE CEILING AT 45 POINT NONSENSE THAT NO NEW REVENUE RATES 43 3. THAT'S A LITTLE MISLEADING, THOUGH, BECAUSE OF THE DEBT RATE IS SET. DIFFERENTLY WHICH IS A THAT WILL BE SET THIS YEAR AT ABOUT 14.5 CENTS. WE'VE BEEN STRIVING TO KEEP THE DEBT RATE AT 15.2 CENT LEVEL. YOU SEE THERE BUT WE DID WE LOSE ABOUT 7/10 OF A CENT ON THE DEBT RATE THIS YEAR. UM THAT JUST GIVES US THE CAPACITY TO CONTINUE WITH OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. BUT AND THEN OUR CEILING ON THE M AND A RATES ABOUT 31 CENTS. AND WHEN YOU SAY GO BACK TO THAT YOU SAID YOU'RE LOSING IT OR YOU'RE GAINING IT.

WELL YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU'RE LOSING 7/10 OF A CENT ON THE ON THE DEBT RATE. WE CAN ALWAYS SET THE DEBT RATE AT THE AMOUNT OF THE DEBT THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON THE CASE, SO IT'S GOING TO BE LOWER. YES THE 7/10 OF A PENNY WILL BE COMING OFF THE TAX RATE. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO MAINTAIN THAT DEBT RATE AT 15 CENTS. BUT BECAUSE THE VALUES CAME IN AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT THE VALUES CAME IN HIGHER THAN WE THOUGHT. SO THEN WE SET OUR DEBT, SO WE WERE LOSING ON THE CAPACITY SIDE JUST A LITTLE BIT THERE. IT'S NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT, BUT BUT THAT'S JUST IS.

IS THIS THE LARGEST TAX RATE REDUCTION? WE'VE EVER HAD EVEN BEFORE BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT WHAT THE PROPOSED RATE WILL BE. THE RATE WILL BE GOING DOWN AT LEAST WITH THE CEILING SET AND I WOULD BE GOING DOWN RIGHT AT ALMOST FOUR CENTS, WHICH IS HIGHER THAN THAN ANY OF THAT I CAN FIND FROM ANY PAST HISTORY. WE DID LOWER IT A LITTLE, AROUND THREE CENTS ABOUT FISCAL YEAR 19 BETWEEN 18 AND 19. THERE WAS A THREE CENT DROP THIS WOULD BE FOR IT WOULD BE MORE IT IS DRIVEN QUITE A BIT BY THE VALUES THAT YOU'RE SEEING IN FRONT OF SUCH A GREAT CITY COUNCIL. THAT'S PART OF IT, TOO, BECAUSE THE COUNCIL'S DON'T CHOOSE TO PASS THOSE THOSE RATE DECREASES ON. THEN YOU CLEARLY DON'T SEE THOSE SO. AND WE WILL. ALSO DURING THE BUDGET WORKSHOP WILL SHOW THE HISTORY OF THE RATES AND THE PERCENTAGES ABOVE THAT, YOU KNOW, NEW REVENUES AND ALL I DID WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE VALUES THAT YOU'RE SEEING. WE WERE CALLED LITTLE SURPRISED.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A NUMBER FOR OUR TAXABLE VALUES THAT WE THOUGHT WAS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT LOWER. BUT WHEN THE ACTUAL VALUES CERTIFIED VALUES CAME IN, THEY WERE ABOUT $1.2 BILLION HIGHER THAN WE THOUGHT. SO YOU'RE SEEING TAXABLE VALUES HERE. THIS IS THIS IS CURRENT PLUS THE NEW VALUE THAT IS BEING ADDED, WHICH IS ABOUT $880 MILLION ON THE TAX ROLL. WE'RE GOING FROM $26.6 MILLION OF TAXABLE VALUE TO $31.2 BILLION OF TAXABLE VALUE. SO WITH THAT WE HAVE OUR WE HAVE OUR VALUES. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE TAX RIGHT NOW ALREADY STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE INS OR THE DEBT SERVICE RATE. BUT WE DO SET THAT AMOUNT TO MATCH THE AMOUNT TO MEET THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS IN A GIVEN YEAR. THERE'S ALWAYS FLUCTUATION ON THE ON THE DEBT RATE WE HAVE TRIED TO MAINTAIN AROUND 15 CENTS. UM BUT WE ARE GOING TO DIP BELOW THAT THIS YEAR. ON THE M AND, OH, THAT'S MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS THAT GOES TO PAY FOR ALL OF THE DAILY OPERATIONS OF THE CITY. THERE ARE GENERAL FUND IT SALARIES AND SUPPLIES, AND THAT IS THE PORTION THAT IS SUBJECT TO THE NO NEW REVENUE AND THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE THAT HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SO HERE'S YOUR PROPERTY TAX RATE HISTORY. UM LET'S SEE ASKING ABOUT THE BIGGEST DROP YOU CAN SEE. THAT WAS ALMOST THREE CENTS BETWEEN FISCAL YEARS 18 AND 19. WE WERE AT 59 CENTS ABOUT A DECADE AGO. AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT A TAX RATE UNDER AROUND 45 CENTS THIS YEAR.

THAT THAT DECREASE ALL STARTED. WHEN I WHEN I CAME ON COUNCIL, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. 25. I'LL TAKE YOUR LONG CREDIT FOR THAT, CHARLIE. YES, SIR. DID IT ALL ON YOUR OWN, RIGHT? YEAH. SO WITH THAT THESE ARE THE DATES THE THREE DAYS THAT WE'RE REALLY GOING TO BE PUSHING TOWARDS AUGUST. 12TH IS OUR BUDGET WORK SESSION. UM AND THEN ON THE 16TH. WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC

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HEARING ON THE BUDGET. WILL HAVE ACTUALLY TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE BUDGET. REMEMBER WE HAD A PUBLIC INPUT HEARING EARLIER BACK IN THE SPRING BACK IN APRIL, BUT WE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE TO OFFICIAL BUDGET HEARINGS. PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE WILL HAVE A TAX RATE PUBLIC HEARING THE NIGHT OF SEPTEMBER THE SIXTH AND WE WILL ADOPT THE BUDGET AND THE TAX RATE ON SEPTEMBER THE SIXTH SO WE CAN MEET ALL OF OUR STATUTORY DEADLINES WITH THE COUNTY AND THE STATE SO THAT'S THE PLAN SO FAR, AND THOSE ARE THE IMPORTANT DATES AHEAD AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IS MARKED. THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE BEFORE GR. AHEAD SAID THAT THE RAISED VALUE HAS GONE UP 28% BY THESE NUMBERS, IT LOOKS LIKE 17% 28. WHAT WAS THERE A WELL, I MISS SOMETHING SO UM, THE AVERAGE MARKET VALUE OF A HOME AND I CAN'T I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE. I CAN TELL YOU, YOU ARE SEEING MARKET VALUE OF THE HOME. HIS COMMENT WAS JUST ON RESIDENTIAL HOME. I GUESS MR WHERE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE COUNTY, NOT JUST MCKINNEY AND I CAN GET THOSE WILL HAVE THOSE NUMBERS AS WE FOR THE BUDGET WORKSHOP. BUT THAT'S TRUE. MARKET VALUES HAVE SPIKED. BUT YOU'RE BUT HOMEOWNERS ARE CAPPED AT 10% WHICH IS THE WHAT? YOU WHAT WE KEEP SHOWING US THE TAXABLE VALUE SO THEIR CAPTAIN 10% SO THEY CAN RISE 10% AND THEN WE CAN ONLY GO 3.5% SO WE WILL ESSENTIALLY MEET SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE THERE, SO I JUST FOR ANYONE. JUST THE. I HEARD IT IS 20% YEAR CORRECTLY COUNTY, BUT I THAT OTHER PEOPLE MAY NOT. CATCH THE COUNTY. CLARIFICATION THERE IS I DIDN'T JUST. FOR 30 RATIFICATION THE OUR TAX RATE. THE CEILING IS 3.5 OVER EFFECTIVE THE WAY THE LAW IS WRITTEN. THE RATE COULD BE WHAT IT WOULD BE THE AVERAGE OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS. YES, SHE COULD TAKE THE INCREMENT OF WHAT YOU HAVEN'T USED IN THE PAST YEARS. ANOTHER 5.5% ROUGHLY, AND WE I DID THE CALCULATION ON THAT, AND I THINK WE'RE AT EFFECTIVE TWO YEARS AGO. AND WAS IT ONE OVER? I THINK IT WAS TWO LAST YEAR. UM BUT ESSENTIALLY, YOU COULD ADD ANOTHER CENT AND A HALF TO THE TAX RATE IF YOU WANTED TO USE THE UNUSED INCREMENT PORTION YOU COULD GO AS HIGH AS 47.3. CENTS IS WHAT I'VE CALCULATED JUST ROUGHLY. UM BUT THAT IS NOT BEING SUGGESTED. CLEARLY HERE.

WE'RE ACTUALLY STAYING UNDER THE 3.5. AND THAT IS THE THAT IS THE CEILING WOULD BE 3.49% JUST TO MAKE NO MISTAKES WHATSOEVER FOR EVERYONE. THAT'S JUST A CEILING THAT WE'RE REQUIRED BY LAW TO SET A CEILING TODAY. EVERY YEAR WE SET THE CEILING THAT IS HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER. THEN.

WHAT WE ACTUALLY CORRECT. TRADITIONALLY WE'VE BEEN SETTING THE CEILING AT A RATE THAT WAS CONCURRENT WITH THE PREVIOUS YEARS, HOWEVER, WITH THE RISE OF VALUES BEING SO MUCH THIS YEAR THAT WAS NOT EVEN POSSIBLE, AS YOU CAN SEE. THAT'S WHERE WE WE'VE LANDED. ANYONE. COMMOTION.

MOVE. THAT'S UM. SORRY CHARLIE WAS A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT NOW WE'RE JUST SETTING THE BUG IS JUST JUST A RECORD VOTE. TONIGHT I MOVE THAT CITY OF MCKINNEY PROPOSED TO ADOPT THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 TOTAL TAX RATE 0.4595E FISCAL YEAR 2023 NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE OF 0.4333 $4. AND CALLED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. THE PUBLIC HEARING TO BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 6TH 2022 AT SIX PM FURTHER RECORD VOTE ON THE TAX RATE ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 6TH 2022 AT SIX PM ALL MEETINGS WILL BE HELD IN THE MCKINNEY CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 2 22 NORTH TENNESSEE STREET. MCKINNEY TEXAS, 75 069. I WILL. SECOND THIS IS A RECORD VOTE. REQUIRED SO GOSH, WILL WILL DIE. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. THANK YOU SEE AUGUST 12TH. THANK YOU, MARK. THANKS,

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Resolution Approving the 2022-2023 CDBG Annual Action Plan]

MARK 22 0713 CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ACT ON THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE 2022 2023 CDBG ANNUAL ACTION PLANS. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD HOW ARE YOU? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I AM

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SHALITA, BEST COMMUNITY SERVICES ADMINISTRATOR WITH THE HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT , AND I PREVENT TO YOU THE OPPORTUNITY AND TO THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS PUBLIC HEARING WITH YOUR CONSENT. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. THIS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT IS KNOWN AS CDBG. IT IS FUNDED THROUGH THE U. S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT AND WE HAVE HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY SINCE 2003. WE HAVE HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THE CITY OF MCKINNEY HAS HAD CONTINUOUS GROWTH. WE HAVE AN OLDER HOUSING STOCK THAT HAS NEED WE HAVE PUBLIC SERVICES WHERE WE HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT ALSO HAS NEED AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO UTILIZE THOSE RESOURCES EFFECTIVELY AND VERY, UM, FISCALLY AS WELL. WE HAVE AN ALLOCATION THAT WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL RECEIVE THIS YEAR, EFFECTIVE OCTOBER, THE FIRST OF 913,742. THAT WILL TAKE EFFECT FOR THE REPORTING PERIOD OF OCTOBER. 1ST OF THIS YEAR THROUGH SEPTEMBER. 30TH OF 2023. THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO COMPLETE AN ANNUAL ACTION PLAN EACH YEAR WHERE WE HAVE PROPOSED ACTIVITIES, AND THIS IS UNDER THE COMMUNITY GRANTS ADVISORY COMMISSION. THEY BEGAN THE PROCESS OF MAKING ALLOCATION AND APPLICATION IN FEBRUARY. WE'RE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AND CITY SERVICES WERE MAKING DETERMINATION OF NEED THAT INCLUDES OUR PUBLIC SERVICES ARE HOUSING REHABILITATION PROGRAM, OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS, WHICH INCLUDES NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENTS, AND THEN ALSO SMALL PORTION, WHICH IS GRANT ADMINISTRATION TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE COMPLIANT. AND MEETING OUR GOALS FOR THE PUBLIC AND ALSO FOR HUD. WE HAVE A, UH , ALLOCATION PROCESS IN WHICH WE HAD TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WERE CONDUCTED BY THE COMMUNITY GRANTS ADVISORY COMMISSION AND AT THIS TIME COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE WE MAKE APPLICATION TO HUD AFTER AFTER AUGUST, THE 16TH WHERE THEY WILL GIVE FINAL APPROVAL. AT THIS TIME, I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE. THANK YOU. SINCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS IS A THE CORRECT IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE AND OBTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE HEARING AND ACTION. MY COMMOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE CLEARING, AND, UM I'LL CIRCUIT YOUR VOTES. TOWARD MOTION. PASSES. 220006 S U P TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AND ACT ON A SPECIFIC

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit Request for a Convenience Store with Fuel Sales (7-Eleven), Located on the Southwest Corner of Wilmeth Road and Hardin Boulevard, and Accompanying Ordinance]

USE PERMIT. REQUEST FOR CONVENIENCE STORE. IF YOUR SALES 7 11, LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WILMOTH ROAD IN HARDENED BOULEVARD AND THE COMPANY ORDINANCE, JENNIFER THANK YOU, MR ■MAYOR. JENNIFER ARNOLD, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING JUST ONE SECOND HERE. I GET MYSELF SET UP. OKAY AS YOU READ . EXCUSE ME, THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR THE OPERATION OF A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS STATION FUEL PUMPS ASSOCIATED WITH IT ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WILMOTH AND HARDENED BOULEVARD. THE SITE ITSELF IS ABOUT TWO ACRES IN SIZE, AND IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED C TWO, WHICH IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DOWNING COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

WITH THAT C TWO. ZONING S SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED FOR CONSIDERATION OF A GAS STATION ON THIS SITE. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A 7 11 GAS STATION THAT WOULD INCLUDE 12 FUEL PUMP SO IT WOULD BE SIX STATIONS, BUT THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR SERVICING OF 12 VEHICLES AT A TIME. UM STAFF HAS EVALUATED THE REQUEST AND THE SITE LAYOUT THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT S U P. WE DO FEEL AS THOUGH IT MEETS THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. WE DO FEEL AS THOUGH THERE IS SUFFICIENT SCREENING AND BUFFERING TO THE WEST, WHICH IS WHERE FUTURE RESIDENTIAL IS ANTICIPATED TO GO . WE ALSO NOTE THAT THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION IS INTENDED TO BE DESIGNED AS A ROUNDABOUT INTERSECTION. WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY LIMIT OTHER TYPES OF COMMERCIAL USES, BECAUSE ACCESS ON ROUNDABOUTS ARE SOMETIMES A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE. SO WHEN LOOKING AT THE REQUEST, LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENT FOOTPRINT OF THE PROPOSED 7 11, WE DO FEEL AS THOUGH IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA AND ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ALSO CONSIDERED THE ITEM AND DID ALSO RECOMMEND APPROVAL IN A VOTE OF SIX TO UM, I DO KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST IN PARTICULAR REQUESTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING ADJACENCY OF GAS STATIONS NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS HERE IN THE CITY WE HAVE STAFF HAS DONE A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH INTO THAT. AS PART OF THIS REQUEST, THERE IS SORT OF A MIXED BAG OF WHERE IT DOES OCCUR. WE DO HAVE A FEW LOCATIONS IN THE CITY WHERE GAS STATIONS ARE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS. HISTORICALLY WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY INCOMPATIBILITY WITH US. WE

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HAVEN'T HAD A NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS OR ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION WITH THOSE, UM AND LOOKING AT THOSE PARTICULAR PROJECTS THAT EXIST. UM, WE DO ALSO HAVE QUITE A FEW OF THOSE GAS STATIONS THAT OBVIOUSLY ARE FURTHER AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL AS WELL. SO THERE'S A BIT OF A MIXED BAG OF WHAT EXISTS HERE IN THE CITY AND THESE GAS STATIONS THAT EXIST.

SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. OTHERS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE RECENT, BUT WE HAVE SEEN THAT HISTORICALLY GAS STATIONS IN PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL DO EXIST HERE IN THE CITY. WE HAVE NOT HISTORICALLY SEEN THAT THERE'S BEEN ANY MAJOR. INCOMPATIBILITY ISSUES OR CONCERNS FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT AND SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. I THINK OUR APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL. WE HAVE THEM UP AND DOWN VIRGINIA AND IN STONE BRIDGES, A NUMBER OF WE DO WE DO? YEAH EVERY QUESTION, JENNIFER. SORRY, MR MAYOR. YOU GO AHEAD. YOU WOULD INDICATED SOMETHING THAT STRUCK ME ON THIS. YOU SAID THAT FORGIVE ME. THESE MAY NOT BE YOUR WORDS. YOU CORRECT ME, BUT A ROUNDABOUT MAKES OTHER COMMERCIAL SERVICES DIFFICULT. I THINK THAT ON THE NORTH, THIS IS ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, I THINK ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER AND ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER GAS STATIONS COULD GO WITHOUT A SPECIFIC USE. PERMIT WHETHER WE APPROVE THIS OR NOT. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY GIVEN THAT OTHER COMMERCIAL. ENTERPRISES MAY BE A CHALLENGE. DO YOU THINK THAT'S LIKELY OR NOT? THAT ADDITIONAL GAS STATIONS COULD GO? IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO SEE TWO GAS STATIONS AT A SINGLE INTERSECTION. YOU CAN SEE THEM CATEGORY BUT THIS IS THE ROUNDABOUT. I'M I'M SPEAKING TO THE ROUNDABOUT ASPECT OF THIS AROUND ABOUT IT COULD BE CHALLENGING TO SEE THAT , UM, AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CONSIDERED WHEN THIS REQUEST CAME IN, BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY DEBATED QUITE A BIT INTERNALLY. THAT HEY , IT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT OVER HERE. YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S THE CASE, WHY DON'T WE SAY LOOK THAT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO HERE? WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT? WE ACTUALLY THOUGHT TO OURSELVES BY CONSIDERING IT HERE ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, IT COULD POTENTIALLY LIMITS OTHER GAS STATIONS COMING IN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HARDEN LIMIT BY THE MARKET BEING SATISFIED ALREADY, EXACTLY, AND THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL. SO THIS ONE. WE DO HAVE RESIDENTIAL THAT'S IN DEVELOPMENT HERE. UM, THE MASTER DEVELOPER. FOR THE PAINTED TREE PROJECT IS OBVIOUSLY STILL HAVE OWNERSHIP OVER THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST. SO THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE 7 11. IT IS COMING IN FIRST, ANY POTENTIAL FUTURE RESIDENTIAL WELL, COME IN KNOWING WHAT IS ADJACENT TO THEM. OKAY UM, BUT I'VE GOT MORE QUESTIONS TO SPEAK TO THIS ONE. IT'S CHALLENGING IT AROUND ABOUT TO HAVE CERTAIN COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. DRY CLEANER, FAST FOOD WITH THOSE CHALLENGING SO WE MAY JUST SHRUG OUR SHOULDERS AND SAY, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO PUT MORE GAS STATIONS HERE BECAUSE OTHER THINGS ARE CHALLENGING. IS THAT A CONCERN THAT WE HAVE HERE? NOT NECESSARILY. BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT AS A STAFF IS, YOU KNOW, PRESERVING THOSE COMMERCIAL CORNERS FOR BUT TO MAXIMIZE THE BEST POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL AND GAS STATIONS ALMOST ALWAYS WANT TO BE AT THAT HARD CORNER. BUT BUT BUT BUT THEY DON'T NEED OUR PERMISSION TO GO ON THOSE OTHER TWO CORNERS. THAT'S CORRECT.

THEY DON'T OKAY. I'VE DONE SOME WORK ON THIS AT LEAST MENTALLY, AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE WORST GAS STATION COULD DEXTER RESIDENTS IN MCKINNEY IN, ACCORDING TO PATRICK. IS IT LIKE FOREST AND VIRGINIA? OKAY 7 11 IS CRAMMED WITHIN FEET OF THAT THOSE HOUSES NOW TO YOUR POINT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S EVER BEEN A PROBLEM. BUT IT STRIKES ME AS THOUGH MAN I WONDER WHAT WHO WAS THINKING? WHAT? WHEN THAT WAS DONE, AND I NEVER REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT UNTIL NOW, BUT THERE'S ALSO ONLY ONE INTERSECTION I CAN THINK OF IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS THAT HAS THREE GAS STATIONS. HIGHWAY FIVE AND ELDORADO. HAS THREE DON'T KNOW WHY. BUT THEY DO REMEMBER WHEN THERE'S JUST A SHELL. SO FROM FROM ME, AND I STRUGGLE WITH THIS ONE BECAUSE FOR ME IF WE ALLOW THIS, HERE WITH THAT'S ALLOWING IS THE PEOPLE WHO BUILD AND PAINTED TREE NEXT TO THAT TO BUILD TO BUILD THEIR HOMES, KNOWING THAT THERE BY A GAS STATION AND PROBABLY ENJOYING SOME LEVEL OF DISCOUNT ON IT, BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS TO BE BY ONE. I MEAN, I WOULD THINK YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A LOT PREMIUM ON IT OUT. YOU CAN JUST GO OVER THERE FOR A BEER, YOU KNOW. SO UM, SO I LIKE THAT. BUT I WANTED TO MITIGATE THE CHANCES OF ONE GOING UP ON PARTICULARLY THE NORTH. EAST CORNER. BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT MORE ROOM THAN THAT. 7 11 ENJOYS IT LIKE FORCE IN VIRGINIA. I WOULDN'T DROVE THIS MYSELF. I KNOW IT'S SO. WHAT I WANT IS RESIDENTS HAVE A CHOICE HERE ABOUT LIVING NEXT TO A GAS STATION. I REALIZED THE FOLKS OVER HERE AT THE NORTH AT

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THE NORTH EAST CORNER ARE GOING TO GET ONE. BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT WITH BUILDING IN THE METROPLEX, WE KNOW HARD CORNERS . GET GAS STATIONS ON MAJOR THOROUGHFARES. WE KNOW IT. I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S JUST THEY'RE SO GIVEN THAT WE ALREADY HAVE TWO CORNERS THAT DON'T NEED THE S U P. MY ONLY CONCERN IS AND YOU'VE GIVEN ME A HITCH ON THIS BECAUSE I WAS READY TO APPROVE THIS TODAY BECAUSE I WAS THINKING WELL, I'M REALLY DOING EVERYBODY A FAVOR ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER BECAUSE I'M NOT PUTTING IT ON THEIR CORNER AND I'M REDUCING THE CHANCES OF THEM GETTING ONE. BUT NOW I'M WONDERING IF I REALLY AM. BECAUSE, UM APPARENTLY, THE ROUNDABOUT LIMITS WHAT CAN GO THERE? AND I THINK YOU'RE YOU ARE YOU ARE CORRECT THERE. THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT A GAS STATION DOESN'T GO IN ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER WHETHER THIS ONE GOES IN OR IT GETS APPROVED OR NOT, FROM STAFF PERSPECTIVE, APPROVING A GAS STATION ON THIS CORNER COULD REDUCE THE LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU WOULD SEE ANOTHER ONE JUST BECAUSE UM THERE MAY BE A PORTION OF THE MARKET THAT IS ALREADY SATISFIED , BUT WE DON'T SEE HIM IN WEST MCKINNEY. WE TYPICALLY DON'T LIKE GET HARDENED IN ELDORADO. FORGIVE ME ONCE IN THE TOM THUMB AT VIRGINIA HARDENED ONES AT THE WALMART, RIGHT? I DON'T EVEN KNOW AND MAYBE YOU ALL DO IF THERE IS ONE OF THE TOM THUMB, IT'S STONEBRIDGE AND VIRGINIA. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THERE'S NOT A GAS STATION ON THE CORNER. OKAY, TO YOUR POINT, PATRICK TO ME. UM THERE ARE OTHER THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT WE CAN DO IS LOOK AT HISTORICALLY IN THE ENTIRE CITY OF 210,000 PEOPLE RESIDENTS. WE HAVE ONE INTERSECTION WHERE IT DOES EXIST . IT GENERALLY DOESN'T AND THE REASON GENERALLY DOESN'T BECAUSE IT'S AN OVERSATURATION, RIGHT WHERE I AM ON IT IS BECAUSE OF THE STATEMENT YOU MADE. I ARRIVED AT THIS EARLIER AS WELL BY LOOKING AT IT AND LOOKING AT THAT'S GOOD. THOSE SAME FACTORS BUT FOR ME PUTTING IT HERE WE CAN TAKE A REASONABLE GUESS THAT IT'S GOING TO DISCOURAGE. THE OTHER CORNERS THAT CAN BE BUILT WITH GAS STATIONS. OKAY THANK YOU FOR THAT, AND I HAVE ONE FINAL QUESTION. IF YOU COULD GIVE ME SOME EXAMPLES, IF YOU CAN'T THAT'S OKAY. BUT WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT HAVE A CHALLENGE ON THE ROUNDABOUT THAT DON'T HAVE A CHALLENGE AT ELDORADO AND HARDEN . RIGHT SO WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE'RE NOT LIKELY TO SEE HERE THAT OTHERWISE MIGHT BE THERE. BUT FOR THE ROUNDABOUT, I THINK A LOT OF THE RETAIL BIGGER RETAIL STOREFRONTS WANT THE VISIBILITY AND THE CONTROL OF A TYPICAL INTERSECTION. THE ROUNDABOUT. SOMETIMES THE ACCESS CAN BE A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING, AND THERE'S JUST CONSTANT CIRCULATION AND AROUND ABOUT THAT. SHE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE TRADITIONAL INTERSECTION WHERE YOU'VE GOT RED LIGHTS AND STOP SIGNS OF PEOPLE ARE STOPPED. SO THINGS LIKE OFFICE IS DONE A LOT. WHETHER IT'S MEDICAL OR DENTAL, PERHAPS EVEN A SMALL, UM, GYM OR FITNESS CENTER. FITNESS CENTER IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD. BUT JIM, OUR PERSONAL SERVICE. MAYBE YOU MIGHT SEE THOSE MORE AT AROUND ABOUT WHERE IT'S TRULY THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE STYLE OF DEVELOPMENT WHERE IT'S SERVING THAT DIRECT ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT TRADITIONAL RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT VISIBILITY AND ACCESS THAT THEY WOULD. WHAT ABOUT FAST FOOD OR CBS? BECAUSE THOSE ARE TWO THAT I WOULD THINK? OKAY THOSE ARE COMING TO CBS WOULD PROBABLY COULD STILL BE SUCCESSFUL AT THE ROUNDABOUT . I THINK A FAST FOOD, MAYBE MORE CHALLENGING JUST BECAUSE IT'S THAT CONSTANT CIRCULATION.

OKAY, THANK YOU. JENNIFER I HAD ASKED YOU ABOUT THE FUELING STATIONS ADJACENT TO THE. SINGLE FAMILY ZONING. HOW MANY PLACES AND I GUESS WE KIND OF DEFINE THIS AS THE MODERN ZONING CODE.

HOW MANY PLACES IN MCKINNEY? DO WE HAVE THE ADJACENCY? ONLY A HANDFUL. MAYBE TWO OR THREE ADJACENCY IS RELATIVELY LOOSE ONES WITH DIRECT ADJACENCY. WE DO HAVE ONE UP AT LAKE FOREST AND WILMOTH THAT IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT. THERE IS ALSO DIRECTOR ADJACENCY, UM, ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF STACY AND ALMA. AND DIRECTOR JASON C. AT THE CIRCLE K AT INDEPENDENCE AND WESTRIDGE.

RIGHT. I HAD ALSO INCLUDED. LIKE FOREST AND VIRGINIA, AND THAT THE ONE THAT COUNCILMAN, CLAUDIO SAID, AND THEN UM 3 80 COMMUNITY. WHERE WE HAVE A RACE TRACK. RIGHT IN FRONT OF US, AND I WILL TELL YOU WHAT STAFFED IT. HMM NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO IDENTIFY ALL OF THE GAS STATION, SO WE LOOKED AT ONES THAT WE CONSIDERED MORE MODERN DAY SO ONES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN THE LAST YOU KNOW, 5 TO 10 YEARS WERE ANY OF THOSE APPROVED THROUGH THE S U P PROCESS. SOME OF THEM WERE THE CIRCLE K AT INDEPENDENCE IN WEST RIDGE WAS APPROVED THROUGH AN SCP PROCESS IN 2015. THE CIRCLE K AT ALMA, WHICH IS THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF STATES AND ALMA. THE GAS STATION

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ITSELF WAS ALLOWED BY RIGHT BUT THERE WAS AN S U P PROCESS TO ALLOW FOR THE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF FUEL PUMPS THAT WERE PERMITTED WAS THAT I'M SORRY. THAT ONE WAS 2015 AS WELL. UM SO THE ONE AT LAKE FOREST, UM. OH LIKE FOREST. AND WHAT IS THAT? WILMOTH YEAH. SORRY. LIKE FOREST AND WILMOTH THAT ONE WAS ALLOWED BY RIGHTS, AND IT HAS DIRECT ADJACENCY TO RESIDENTIAL. THEY HAD A REQUEST FOR AND THAT'S YOU, P THAT WAS ULTIMATELY WITHDRAWN, AND THAT REQUEST WOULD HAVE BEEN SIMILAR TO THE ALMA ONE WHERE THEY WERE REQUESTING. YOU INCREASE THE FUEL PUMPS, BUT THEY ENDED UP WITHDRAWING THAT IN JUST DEVELOPING PER UM, THE LIMITED PUMPS THAT THEY WERE ALLOWED BY, RIGHT? QUESTIONS. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. APOLOGIZE TO ALMOST SKIP OVER YOU. HI UM, MY NAME IS MATTHEW SMITH. AND WITH THE KARA VENTURES, TONY SOME ADDRESS. 26 27 TILLER STREET FOR TEXAS. UM IS THE POWER POINT LOADED? OKAY, I CAN JUST TALK TO YOU. SOME OF THE UM SO THIS IS A 4650 SQUARE FOOT. 7 11 IS ONE OF THEIR NEW CONCEPTS THAT INCLUDES THE LAREDO TACO COMPANY IN IT. IT'S KIND OF LIKE A TACO BAR. CHIPOTLE STYLE. JUST GO DOWN THE LINE. PICK WHAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT. UM THIS IS ALSO A CORPORATE STORE. UM THIS WOULD NOT BE RUN FRANCHISEES WILL BE RUN BY SOME OF THE CORPORATE THE SITE PLAN THAT WE PROVIDED DOES NOT REQUEST ANY VARIANCES AT ALL. UM WE ARE FULLY COMPLIANT WITH EVERYTHING WE WORKED WITH STAFF ON THE TWO D CELL WANES AS WELL ON BOTH SIDES OF, UM DECIDE. TO ACCOMMODATE ANY TRAFFIC FOR THE ROUNDABOUT. UM THERE IS A TALL RETAINING WALL IN THE BACK SIDE OF THE SIDE, WHICH ALSO HAS A SIX FT FENCE. ON TOP OF THAT SIX OR EIGHT FT. BLANKET ON THAT A LITTLE BIT. ALL THE LIGHTING WILL BE CONTAINED ON THE SITE. UM THAT'S STANDARD, SOMEONE PRACTICING CITY ORDINANCE AS WELL. UM, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU'LL HAVE ON THE OTHER CORNERS. UM I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR A WHILE. WE ARE MAINLY A RETAIL DEVELOPER. SINGLE TENANT RETAIL DEVELOPER. UM, THE SOUTHEAST CORNER HAS A CHALLENGES WHERE THERE'S NO CROSS ACCESS FROM THE CHURCH WOULD HAVE TO GO GET THEIR ACCESS FROM THE CHURCH, WHICH IN MY OPINION WOULD BE PRETTY DIFFICULT AS A C STORE OPERATOR TO BE ALLOWED TO HAVE THE CROSS AXIS THERE. ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SIDE. THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF TOPOGRAPHY, AND I BELIEVE LAST TIME I LOOKED, THERE IS SOME WETLANDS RUNNING THROUGH IT, WHICH ARE NOT CHEAP TO MITIGATE. THERE'S WHAT RUNNING THROUGH. I'M SORRY. WETLANDS, OKAY? WHICH ARE USED TO CALL HIM SWAMPS. BUT NOW THE COMMONWEALTH MINUTES AND THEY WERE FANCY. YEAH. UM THE. THE CHALLENGE THERE. I MEAN SOLVING MONETARY CHALLENGES, MAINLY ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. UM YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CHALLENGE THERE WITH THE CROSS ACCESS WHICH YOU ALL WOULD CONTROL. I BELIEVE THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS, WHICH ALREADY DID. UM THIS AND LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A NEW PROTOTYPE. CORPORATE CORPORATELY RUN. VERY NICE. UM BUILDING FACADE. ALL MASONRY, UM YEAH, THAT'S I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. UM HAVE A QUESTION. SO DO YOU HAVE HAVE YOU? HAVE YOU EVER PUT A STORE AROUND AND AROUND ABOUT AROUND ABOUT AROUND ? I MEAN, RIGHT AT A ROUNDABOUT WHERE YOU KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT THERE, WHAT? WHAT'S YOU KNOW WHAT'S BEEN YEARS SUCCESS OR YOUR HISTORY WITH AROUND ABOUT I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY DONE IT. I'VE SEEN HIM IN FLORIDA HAVE SEEN HIM ALL OVER THE PLACE . THERE MIGHT BE SOME HERE IN NORTH TEXAS, ANOTHER ONE IN MANSFIELD. I BELIEVE THEY'VE DONE IT WHERE THEY HAVE A STORE NEXT TO A ROUNDABOUT, CORRECT, OKAY AND I. TENDED DISAGREE A LITTLE BIT ON THE RETAIL SIDE WITH THE ROUNDABOUT. I DO BELIEVE IT DOES. PRESENT SOME CHALLENGES. BUT I MEAN THEY'RE THE ADEQUATE ACCESS IS DEFINED BY EACH INDIVIDUAL USER. I WORK WITH SOME TENANTS THAT DON'T CARE IF THEY HAVE TWO AXES. THEY JUST NEED ONE. ACCESS. 10.4 VERSUS YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW, THE ROUNDABOUT IS, YOU KNOW IT IS WHAT IT IS. I BELIEVE WE'VE GOTTEN COMFORTABLE WITH IT. MY ME AND MY TEAM AND OUR CLIENT HAS SO I DON'T SEE ANY MAJOR, OKAY? MATTHEW I APPRECIATE YOUR EXPLANATION BECAUSE THE QUESTION WAS GOING TO ASK YOU IS WHY NOT ? ONE OF THE ONES LOTS THAT DON'T REQUIRE THE S U P NOW

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SOUTHEAST CORNER WITH THE CHURCH HAVING TO GIVE YOU RIGHT AWAY. I THINK THAT'S AN EXISTENTIALLY PROBLEM FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BUILD A C STORE, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THAT'S REALLY THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. THAT'S JUST NOT GONNA HAPPEN. THERE AREN'T GONNA ALLOW IT. BUT ON THE OTHER LOT ON THE NORTH EAST, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT PRIMARILY CONCERNED BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS IS UP THERE, YOU INDICATED TOPOGRAPHY AND WETLANDS. NOW THAT IS SOMETHING YOU COULD MITIGATE. IT JUST TAKES DOLLARS. IT'S FAIR TO SAY YES AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS IS THAT THE THOSE TWO OWNERS, THEY'RE THE SAME OWNER. THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO SELL RIGHT NOW.

THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY PLANS TO SELL. OKAY CORNERS. YES, BUT ON THE ON OKAY, OKAY. SO ON THE REASONABLE MAN THEORY, THOUGH, THEY'RE NOT HOLDING IT FOREVER BECAUSE THEY LIKE IT THERE. IT'S THEY'RE GOING TO SELL. AT SOME POINT THEY'RE JUST HOLDING ON. IT WOULD BE EXPENSIVE. OKAY THOSE WHAT? THERE'S NEW LEGISLATION THAT. UM YOU CAN'T USED TO BE ABLE TO MOVE NON JURISDICTIONAL WATERS WITHOUT GOING TO BUY. CREDITS. NOW THAT'S IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE. I SEE. OKAY. UM. SO REALLY, THERE'S A DECENT CHANCE THAT THIS ISN'T APPROVED GAS STATIONS NOT GOING TO SHOW UP THERE UNLESS IN THE E. T J ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER. SOMETHING HAPPENS THERE WITH THAT LANDOWNER. SO. THAT I WOULDN'T SAY THAT I JUST HAS NOT BEEN EXPLORED IS FULLY AS THIS SIDE HAS BEEN. THIS HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW MY PROJECT FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. OKAY? THAT'S FAIR LAST QUESTION. I APPRECIATE IT. YOU'D INDICATED ABOUT A RETAINING WALL BEING THERE WHEN I DROVE BY YESTERDAY. THE DAY BEFORE. I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN I SAW A BUNCH OF TREES SITTING OUT THERE WAITING TO BE MOVED RETAINING WALL, NO DEVELOPMENT.

BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THERE IS GOING TO BE A RETAINING WALL WHEN YOU BUILD AND THERE WILL BE A FENCE ON TOP OF THAT OUT THERE BEFORE THIS MEETING, AND THERE IS A RETAINING WALL THAT I MISSED IT. I'M SORRY. TREES ARE PRETTY TALL, SO IT'S HARD TO SEE. BUT YES, OKAY. WAS THERE WITH THE PENCIL ON TOP, OKAY? THANK YOU. HEY MATTHEW. I'M JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT ROUNDABOUT WAS A HIT SONG BY THE BAND CALLED YES. AFTER 1972 FRAGILE ALBUM. YOU MAY NOT REMEMBER THAT ONE. YOUR REPERTOIRE, NOT JUST SAW THAT WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GAVE SOMETHING BACK TO YOU HERE.

APPRECIATE IT. IT AIN'T MUCH, MATTHEW. MATTHEW I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE THE PRESENTATION WE HAD TALKED ABOUT. VISUALIZING THE ROUNDABOUT AND YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S ANY UH UM, I GUESS HINDERING OF YOUR ACCESS WHEN IT COMES TO NORTHERN ENTRY ON THAT ROUNDABOUT COMING OUT OF THAT ROUNDABOUT. NO, NO, I DON'T BELIEVE SO. AT THIS TIME. NO WE THEY'RE ALWAYS BEEN PROVIDED FROM STAFF WAS LIKE A REAL ROUGH DIAGRAM. WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY FULL PLANS AND WE DID. WE DID.

FIND THAT FROM THE CITY REPORTS. UM AND I THOUGHT WE SENT IT IN. MAYBE NOT. OKAY, UM EITHER WAY WITH THE DSL LINES WE DON'T REALLY SEE ANY, YOU KNOW, MAJOR TRAFFIC. YOU KNOW, CONCERNS, SAFETY ISSUES, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THIS IS ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS STAFF WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE HANDS AND EVERYTHING. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF WE HAVE. SPEAKERS UM, NEITHER DONAHUE. COME UP. IF YOUR STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU THINK YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A THREE MINUTE TIMER UP THERE THAT YOU CAN WATCH. JUANITA DONAHUE, 39 44 RIVERBEND STREET, MCKINNEY. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND TRUSTED COLLEAGUES. I REPRESENT TIMBER CREEK. I'M HERE WITH SOME OF MY PEOPLE AND WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT AND THE 7 11. UM NUMBER ONE. OUR COMMUNITY IS DEVELOPING COMMUNITY OF, OF COURSE, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND CONDOMINIUMS SOON, AND WE HAVE LOTS OF FAMILIES, TEENAGERS THAT ARE NEW DRIVERS AND, OF COURSE, THE PEACE AND QUIET OF RECEIVE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE CONCERN WITH THE 7 11 FOR MOST OF THE RESIDENTS ARE SAFETY, TRAFFIC NOISE AND SIGN POLLUTION. UM I DID HEAR THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE THE MODERN NEWS 7 11. THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING TO THE HOMEOWNERS THAT PAID IN EXCESS OF 700,000 PLUS FOR THEIR HOMES. TO HAVE A 7 11 ON THE CORNER WITH A BIG FLESH IN THE RED STEIN, COME HERE NOW. IT JUST DOESN'T SIT WELL WITH SO MANY OTHER RESIDENTS, SO I'M JUST HERE TO SAY, PLEASE CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR PROPOSALS OR YOUR APPROVALS FOR THE COMMUNITY, OUR COMMUNITY IS GROWING AND WE WANT TO LIVE THERE. BUT A LOT OF RESIDENTS ARE AN UPROAR AND UPSET ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING. THEY'RE TALKING PROTESTS AND ALL TYPES OF THINGS AND WE DON'T WANT THAT TYPE OF ENERGY OR TYPE OF ACTIVITY IN OUR COMMUNITY. UM I'VE LIVED IN OTHER STATES AND I'VE LIVED NEAR 7/11 CIRCLE K'S AND ALL THOSE, AND IT'S ALWAYS

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SOME TYPE OF 24 HOUR ACTIVITY. THAT'S NOT ALWAYS GOOD. ESPECIALLY AFTER 12 1 O'CLOCK WITH SUMMER AND TEENAGERS AND SO MANY NEW PEOPLE MOVING TO THE AREA AS YOU GUYS ALL KNOW. UM, AND WITH THAT BEING SAID YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONCERNED WITH THE ACTIVITY THAT GOES ON BETWEEN THE HOURS OF ONE A.M. THREE A. M IN THE MORNING HOMELESSNESS, STRAGGLERS, DRUNK DRIVERS, ALL THOSE THINGS WE HAVE TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION THAT ARE CLOSE TO OUR RESIDENTS. AND THE SECOND THING THE LAST POINT WOULD BE THE SIGNAGE. WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY TYPES OF SIGNAGE. AND I'M HOPING THAT IF YOU DO APPROVE IT, YOU CONSIDER SOME TYPE OF LOW MAINTENANCE SIGN OR LOW BORDER SIGN OR SOMETHING, BUT NOT THE BIG GIANT 7, 11, GREEN AND WHITE AND BLUE. WHATEVER SIGNAGE THAT THEY HAVE JUST TO KEEP THIS THAT OF THE COMMUNITY, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL AND KEEPING MCKINNEY THE WAY IT IS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I DO WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS. GENERALLY I DON'T DO THIS, BUT I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU, UM A COUPLE OF THINGS YOU SAID SIGNAGE AND OPEN 24 HOURS.

MCDONALD'S OPENED IN WHICH THEY CAN BUY RIGHT OPEN, MY RIGHT. GOING ON CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY IS OPEN 24 HOURS. ARGUABLY AND MORE OBNOXIOUS SIGN. AND 7 11. SORRY. MCDONALDS IF YOU'RE WATCHING, BUT BY MY. THAT CONCERN YOU MCDONALD'S HAS I'VE LIVED. WHEN I WAS IN HOUSTON. I LIVED IN AREA CALLED SUGAR LAND, AND WE HAD A MCDONALD'S IN OUR AREA, BUT THEY HAD LOW MAINTENANCE SIGNS. WHEN YOU YOU COULDN'T EVEN THERE WAS NO BIG GIANT DOUBLE M S. IT WAS A LOW MAINTENANCE SIGN IT BLENDED WITH THE COMMUNITY, AND PEOPLE WERE FINALLY ZONING ISSUE THERE.

THAT'S NOT HERE. SO SO PROBLEM MOST PROBABLY IT WAS A IT WAS AN ORDINANCE THAT WAS IN PLACE ASIDE, NOR A SIGN ORDINANCE THAT DID THAT THIS SITE. NOW IT MAY THERE MAY BE A SIGN ORDINANCE ON THE SIDE. IF THERE IS, OF COURSE, 7 11 WOULD HAVE TO ADHERE TO IT AS WELL. BUT IF THERE IS A SIGN ORDINANCE, WHAT I'M SAYING IS WILL BE EVEN PLAYING FIELD WHETHER IT WAS 7 11 OR MCDONALD'S. AS FAR AS SIGNAGE GOES, THEY BOTH CAN BE OPEN 24 HOURS, THEY BOTH WOULD HAVE SIGNAGE. THEY BOTH HAVE THOSE SAME. I DON'T KNOW THAT MCDONALD'S DOESN'T SELL LIQUOR, SO THAT'S ONE POINT AND IT DOESN'T ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO HANG AROUND IN THE PARKING LOTS, UM, BEGGING FOR MONEY OR GAS OR WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO SO IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT.

THAT'S MY CONCERN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. DOREEN TRACEY. HELLO MY NAME IS DORIAN TRACY. I LIVE AT 32. OH ONE HICKORY BEEN TRAIL IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE. MR FULLER AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM, SHE BASICALLY HIT A LOT OF THE POINTS ON THE HEAD THAT I HAD. I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT A LOT OF THINGS THAT, SHE SAID. WE MOVED HERE FROM LEANDER. UM BUT WHAT? THE IDEA THAT AT SOME POINT THAT WOULD BE COMMERCIAL, MORE LESS. UM A DAYCARE OR CLEANERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NOT A GAS STATION. UM FOR ME FOR GAS STATIONS. IT'S MORE THE FUMES AND THE GAS AND THE ENVIRONMENT . IMPACT THAT IT HAS. SO YOU HAD MENTIONED MCDONALDS. I'D RATHER SEE MCDONALD'S THAN A GAS STATION FOR THOSE POINTS. UM WE DO HAVE A Q T TO THE EAST OF US.

WE HAVE THE COSTCO IN THE 7 11 TO THE SOUTH. AND WE DO HAVE THE 7 11 TO THE WEST. UM, WE, UM LET'S SEE HERE, UM. AS FAR AS GAS STATIONS. I DON'T HAVE A MAJOR CONCERN FOR THE GENERAL ONES. IT'S JUST WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOODS FOR US. SO FOR ME IF I LOOK OUTSIDE THE BACKYARD, I'M GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE IT. I'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE LIGHTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. IN THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES THROUGH, UM AND OTHER THAN THAT, I'M WITH IT TO YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS TO HAVE THE BEST INTEREST FOR US IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO, UM, I'M JUST HOPING THAT YOU'LL CONSIDER NOT RATHER THAN PUTTING IT IN AND FOR THOSE, UM REASONS THAT I HAVE I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

UM HAVE A. QUESTION I GUESS IT'S A QUESTION OF THE STATEMENT, BUT IT COULD TURN INTO A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. SAID THAT THE PROPERTY ON THE NORTHWEST NORTHEAST CORNER IS THE SAME OWNER. AS THIS? YEAH, NO SORRY, NORTHEAST AND SOUTHEAST. THEN, UM HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

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SORRY SORRY. MARRIED I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC PERIOD. IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. OKAY, I'LL SECOND SUGGEST A CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS, NOT REALLY NOT THE ITEM ITSELF. CASTRO VOTES. UM I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. AND IT GOES BACK TO THE INTERSECTION OF HIGHWAY FIVE IN ELDORADO.

BECAUSE I'VE GOT PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF WHEN THAT HAPPENED AND WHY IT HAPPENED. UM THE SHELL STATION WAS ALWAYS THERE. OKAY. IT WAS THE FIRST ONE THERE. THEN YOU HAD RACETRACK AND THEN YOU HAD A QUICK TRIP. UM, THOSE ARE COMPETITORS. AND THERE'S SO MUCH TRAFFIC VOLUME THAT INTERSECTION THAT'S WHY THOSE TWO CAME IN. IF THEY COME IN FIRST, THAT SHELL STATION WOULD HAVE NEVER COME IN SO YOU WOULD ONLY HAVE TO THERE. SO UH , COMPETITION DOES HAVE AN EFFECT ON HOW MANY GAS STATIONS ARE OUT OF CORNER. THIS ONE. BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC FLOWS NOT GOING TO BE THAT GREAT. I DON'T THINK WITH THE ROUNDABOUT AND EVERYTHING THERE. UM I THINK IT'S PROBABLY ONLY GOING TO BE ONE GAS STATION. OPINION. HMM. AND SO I WAS. I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT UM. AND I CERTAINLY HAVE NOT ACTUALLY, UH, IT'S JUST A CONSIDERATION RIGHT NOW. HAVEN'T ARRIVED AT MY DECISION YET, BUT UM, I WANT TO HEAR SOME MORE DIALOGUE. BUT YOU'RE ONE OF THE COMMENTS YOU MADE, I THINK WAS DID A DISSERVICE TO NOT INTENTIONALLY. YOU'RE JUST BEING TRANSPARENT, WHICH IS GOOD. BUT WHEN MY THINKING INITIALLY WAS THAT BY APPROVING AND HERE WE COULD WORK SOME THINGS AND THAT COULD BE INTO THAT ISSUE. P AS WELL HAVE SOME DIALOGUE ON SIGNAGE AND THANK STAFF'S ALREADY WORKED WITH YOU ON SOME A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS THAT WERE MAYBE ABOVE AND BEYOND. AND I FELT THAT IT WOULD DISCOURAGE OTHER GAS STATIONS FROM OPENING, BUT THE ARGUMENT YOU MADE IS THAT THE OTHER CORNERS ARE NOT CONDUCIVE IN PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE DEVELOPED INTO GAS STATIONS. KIND OF REMOVE THAT FOR ME. THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG REASONS I WAS . I CAME INTO THIS AND AGAIN HAVEN'T MADE A DECISION YET, BUT I CAME INTO SUPPORTING BECAUSE I FELT AS MUCH AS THERE WAS AN OPPOSITION TO THE GAS STATION ON THIS CORNER. I FELT THAT WITH S U P. WE COULD HAVE SOME OVERSIGHT THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE ON THE OTHERS, TOO. THAT ARE BY RIGHT BUT YOU CAN'T TAKE THAT ARGUMENT AWAY FROM ME BY SAYING THAT YOU'VE LOOKED AT THESE CORNERS AND, UM AND THERE'S NOT THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP THOSE TWO AS AS GAS STATIONS, ONE WILL REQUIRE AN INGRESS ACCESS IS MEANT BY A CHURCH AND THE OTHER IS DEVELOP HAS DEVELOPMENT CHALLENGES, SO I JUST WOULD SAY THAT THAT WOULD, UM, THAT'S HAD AN IMPACT ON. UM YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU'RE THE APPLICANT. MY COMMENT ISN'T REALLY THERE OR IN THE OVERALL ASPECT OF THIS CURRENT I HAD. I MEAN, I HAVE NOT SPENT TIME ON THAT. I SEE CHALLENGES THERE, BUT I WOULD NOT SAY THAT IT'S OUT OF THE QUESTION AT ALL. I MEAN, IT'S. THIS HAS BEEN LIKE I KNOW THIS SITE THROUGH AND THROUGH THE OTHER TWO I SPEND MINIMAL TIME DOING YOU KNOW? PRESENTING TO MY CLIENT. AND WHY WE LIKED THIS SIDE. BUT I DID NOT WANT TO REPRESENTED THAT IT'S NOT ACHIEVABLE AT ALL. I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I MEAN, AND I WAS BEING TRANSPARENT AS I POSSIBLY COULD. LIKE. I REALLY DON'T HAVE A TON OF BACKGROUND ON THAT. SO AND I'LL ALSO SAY, QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T MEAN DISRESPECTFULLY AT ALL. BUT I WOULD ASSUME THAT, OF COURSE, WORKING ON THIS ONE CORNER. AND AS YOU SAID THAT, ALTHOUGH I CAN APPRECIATE THERE MAY BE MORE CHALLENGES AS A DEVELOPER, I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT CORNER IS GOING TO DEVELOP. NO YES, AND IT WON'T SIT THERE BECAUSE OF CHALLENGES ON DEVELOPMENT. IT MAY SIT THERE A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BECAUSE TAKE THE EASIER CHALLENGE FIRST, AND I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS ON THE OTHER CORNER AND THE ACCESS EASEMENT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. AND MAYBE JENNIFER, YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT, WHETHER BECAUSE THEY ONLY NEED ACCESS IS MEANT ON THE ONE SIDE. WOULD THAT BE CORRECT? OR IS THAT YEAH, I WAS SAYING IS THAT AT THE MAIN MEETING BREAK, YOU COULD GET BOTH ACCESS. BUT YOU COULDN'T GET IMAGINE NOT TO USE THE TERM THEY NEED AN ACCESS EASEMENT ACROSS ACCESS FOR THE AT THE MAIN MEDIUM BREAK. I WAS PROBABLY SPEAKING WITH TOO MUCH OF A DEVELOPER THERE, BUT AT THE MAIN MEDIUM BREAK TO USE THE DRIVE THEY HAVE. IT'S NOT SAYING THERE'S NOT A CHANCE YOU COULD HAVE BECAUSE THERE IS A MEDIUM BREAK THAT GOES INTO THEIR THEIR LOCATION. SO. TO UTILIZE THE MEDIUM BREAK. YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO BE TRAVELING ON THEIR GOOD

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JOB AS POSSIBLE ON THAT. AND SINCE YOU ALL ARE DOING THIS REALLY SUPER COOL CORPORATE STORE, YOU DON'T REALLY NEED THAT MUCH AND SIGNAGE. DO YOU MEAN WE HAVE A SOUND PLAN THAT IT'S A SMALL MONUMENT, ADHERING TO BOTH? THE DEVELOPERS, OVERALL PD AND THE CITY REQUIREMENTS THINKING, MAKE THE NEIGHBORS HAPPY. IT'S NOT VERY BIG. YEAH. WHO WOULD MUCH, MUCH RATHER LARGER SONG. YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE SORRY MR MAYOR. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE 7 11 STORES? VIRGINIA HARDEN THIS, OKAY? IS THAT A CORPORATE STORE? AND WOULD WE BUT THAT IS NOT OKAY.

SO A MORE ACCURATE UM. SAME I THINK THAT WOULD BE THAT. TO UTILIZE THE UM, MEDIUM BREAK.

CORRECT ACCESS AMUSEMENT. CORRECT ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE ACCESS ON BOTH ROADS. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A MEDIUM BREAK. YES, SORRY TO CLARIFY YES. OKAY, BECAUSE YOU DON'T DO YOU HAVE AN A MEDIAN BREAK YOU DO ON THE ONE SIDE, OF COURSE, BUT NOT ON THE OTHER. MR MAYOR. YOU SEE RIGHT HERE? YEAH BUT BUT I'M LOOKING ON HIS SITE THAT UNDER SITE ON THE SOUTH WEST CORNER THAT ACTS THAT MEDIUM BREAK DOESN'T BENEFIT HIS SIGHT. FOUR ACRES. YOU JUST HEARD DRUGGING ME AGAIN. BUT OKAY, BECAUSE WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IT'S OKAY. UM BECAUSE I LOOK AT THIS AS ABOUT SAYING THAT IF IT WAS DETERMINED TO UTILIZE THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR 7 11 AND THE ACTS AND THE MEDIUM BREAK DOES NOT IMPEDE YOU FROM DOING THAT, OR DISCOURAGE YOU FROM DOING THAT, THEN IT WOULD BE REASONABLE TO ASSUME THAT SOMEONE CONCERNING THE OTHER CORNER WOULD HAD THAT SAME THOUGHT. BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU BOUGHT THE OTHER PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE IT ON SITE PLANE. SO SORRY. I'M NOT SORRY. I DO? YEAH. YEAH, SORRY. RIGHT? MR MAYOR. ONE OTHER THING I JUST THOUGHT OF IT IS THE NORTH. WEST CORNER. IS IN THE T. J. I MEAN, THEORETICALLY. THEY COULD BUILD THIS THERE TOMORROW. IF THEY CAN GET SOMETHING FROM THE LANDOWNER, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY VARSITY RULES, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, SO THE BIG SIGN UP, RIGHT? THAT'S WHY I CAME INTO THIS MEETING. BASICALLY LIKE WHAT YOU HAD SAID. I WENT OUT. I LOOKED AT THAT AND I SEE THE TJ. THEY COULD BUILD ANYTHING. THEY WANT ANY SIGN. I MEAN, THEY DON'T FOLLOW OUR SIGNING ORDINANCES.

THEY DON'T FOLLOW ANY OF THAT. EVEN OUR LIGHTING COORDINATES FROM THAT MISTAKEN, THEY DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW ANYTHING FOLLOWING HIM ON THE I LOOKED AT THE OTHER TWO CORNERS AS CORNERS THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED, AND I THOUGHT MAN. IF WE HAVE CONTROL WITH AN S U P. WE TAKE IT AWAY FROM EXISTING RESIDENTIAL THAT WE HAD A STRONG POSSIBILITY OF DISCOURAGING THE DEVELOPMENT ON THOSE OTHER CORNERS. SO I CAME IN. WITH THAT. IN MY MINDSET, IT'S THERE. JUST SOME COMMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE THAT THAT QUESTION. BUT THEN I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO SEE YOUR ARGUING FOR NOT ARGUING. YOU'RE TALKING FROM YOUR KNOWLEDGE ON YOUR SITE AND ALTHOUGH YOU. YOU SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE TOUGH. I THINK EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM KNOWS THAT AT SOME POINT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DEVELOPED REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE DIFFICULTY IS. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO CHARGE A CART? THESE LITTLE EVEY CENTERS YOU HAVE HERE? I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF THEM YET. THAT'S NO 7 11 BIZOS. WE JUST INSTALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE FORUM. I BELIEVE THERE ARE THE QUICK CHARGERS THAT YOU SEE. IT'S UM WALGREENS AND IT'S ABOUT 30 MINUTES. 30 MINUTES IS CONSIDERED QUIT. MHM.

EXCEPT LONGLEY. EVEN SLURPEE. YEAH, I DON'T HAVE A SLURPEE. HAVE A MUCH LAWYER TIME. MY PRESENTATION FAST. YEAH YOU HAVE IT ON IN WHAT HAD LIKE TO SEE IT. SO I'VE ASKED HIM HE'S GOT I LIKE TO SEE THE STORE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. UM WHILE HE'S PULLING THAT UP, MR MAYOR, I'LL SAY THAT YOU KNOW, I'M I'M MUCH MORE CONFLICTED THAN WHEN I CAME IN HERE, BUT THE I FEEL THAT I FILL UP A LOT OF TIMES AT MARKET STREET AND DIRECTLY TO THE WEST OF MARKET STREET. IS SUBDIVIDED RIDGE ROAD. THAT HAS RESIDENCES RIGHT BACK THERE. THERE REALLY ARE NO FUMES THAT COME AND HIT FROM THERE, BUT THAT'S REALLY COMPARABLE MORE TO THAT. FROM WHERE THE RESIDENCES ARE NOW ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER, THEN BUILDING UP ON THE NORTHWEST. THIS IS THE BEST CORNER. WE COULD BUILD THAT TO MITIGATE. PROBLEMS TO THE RESIDENCES AS IT EXISTS RIGHT NOW, AND EVERYBODY CAME WITH EVERYBODY ELSE WHO BUYS THERE. IS GOING TO KNOW AND BE EYES WIDE OPEN THAT I'VE GOT

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A GAS STATION. IN MUCH CLOSER PROXIMITY THAN THE FOLKS UP THERE AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER.

THAT'S THAT. THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I CAME INTO THIS MEETING. SORRY FOR THE DELAY, BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SEE MY ONLY. NO MAJOR CONCERN WITH THIS IS JUST THE PROXIMITY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMMEDIATELY WEST OF HERE, I GREW UP IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAD A CORNER STORY WAS A CORNER GAS STATION, AND I HAD I LOVED IT. YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE I LIVED ON THE INTERIOR OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DIDN'T LIVE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THAT. AND ON SUMMER DAYS LIKE THIS, WE WOULD GATHER A GROUP OF FRIENDS. AND WALK TO THE CORNER STORE AND HANG OUT. AND THIS IS WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE SAYING. THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO FOR THAT REASON , THAT'S THE REASON I'M NOT GONNA. BUT THERE ARE NO RESIDENTS THAT BACK UP TO THIS TO THE WEST RIGHT NOW. ARE NO VISITORS. NO, NOTHING DEVELOPMENT THERE RIGHT. THERE WILL BE AND THEY'LL BE EYES WIDE OPEN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUY NEAR ONE THAT ALREADY EXISTS IF IT GOES ON ANY OTHER CORNER. WELL, THE OTHER TWO CORNERS, IT WOULD BE BACKING UP AGAINST RESIDENTIAL RIGHT NOW. I UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERN, AND IF I WERE A RESIDENT PURCHASING IN THAT AREA, I WOULDN'T WANT I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE A CHOICE, BUT I JUST I DON'T LIKE THIS ON THIS CORNER TO ARGUE THE COUNTER BECAUSE I'M STRUGGLING TO, BUT I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS.

YOU KNOW, MATTHEW SAID AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER, WHICH IS WHERE THE RESIDENTS LIVE RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S TOP OF GRAPHICAL CONCERNS BUT COULD BE OVERCOME AND THEY IF WE SAY NO TO THIS, WE'RE INCREASING CHANCES OF ONE GETTING STUCK THERE AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT. I WOULD SAY IT'S A IT'S A CERTAINTY, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS THE CENTER SECTION. THERE WILL BE A GAS STATION AT THIS INTERSECTION. SO THAT THAT IS ALMOST CERTAINTY.

IT REALLY IS. IT'S JUST BASICALLY IN THE IN THE TRAFFIC IN THE. THE THING I WOULD SAY ABOUT THE NORTHEAST CORNER, THOUGH, IS IF THERE IS EVENTUALLY WON THERE YOU'VE GOT IT MUCH DIFFERENT DEPTHS. COMPONENT TO THAT SPACE THAN YOU DO ON ON THE AND I KNOW THAT THAT THEY'RE CONFORMING TO THE S U P UM ON THE ON THE PROPOSED SIDE, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SETBACK IS THERE, BUT I MEAN, JUST LOOK AT THE DUMPSTERS AT THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER OF THE SITE AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE ARE GOING TO BE 30 OR 40 FT FROM A FROM A BACK PORCH VS ON THAT NORTHEAST SITE, YOU'VE PROBABLY GOT TWICE THE DEPTH OF THAT SITE THAN YOU DO WITH THIS AT THIS CORNER. TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SO I JUST I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE APPLES TO APPLES. I UNDERSTAND THE KIND OF IS THIS A PREVENTATIVE MEASURE BY APPROVING THIS OR YOU KNOW, IS IT NOT? BUT I JUST THINK THIS SITE CREATE SOME PROXIMITY, EVEN THOUGH IT CONFORMS WITH OUR RSU P. IT'S STILL PROXIMITY THAT I'M I'M NOT I REALLY LIKE THAT OTHER ONE BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY DON'T NEED AN S. U P AND THEY CAN BUILD ALL THE SAME SETBACKS. I'M JUST SAYING LIKE YOU. YOU WOULDN'T YOU WOULDN'T CREATE THAT. PUT THAT MUCH DEPTH INTO A GAS STATION. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE IT SO CLOSE TO THAT SINGLE FAMILY AS YOU WOULD HEAR. AND SO IF WE'RE JUST WE'RE PICKING ONE OR THE OTHER. THAT ONE HAS A MUCH DIFFERENT LAYOUT ON FROM A DEPTH PERSPECTIVE IN THIS SITE DOES GUESSING THAT I'M GUESSING THAT FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT EXIST NOW CHRISTOPHER MEETING. THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE BUILT THERE. MY GUESS IS THEY WOULD THEY WOULD THEN VOTE TO PUT IT ON. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT COMING. I JUST I WAS JUST MAKING A COMMENT ABOUT THE DEPTH BUT AND I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR BUILD. BUT IF IT'S A QUICK TRIP WITH HIS EXPANSIVE AS THOSE ARE AND AS MUCH DEPTH AS THEY HAVE FROM THE BACK OF THE ROAD FOR ALL THE STATIONS, AND THEN THE PARKING AND THEN THE DEPTH OF THE STORE AND GOING BACK THEN I WOULD WONDER. UM JUST KIND OF LOST WITH THE FACT THAT HOMELESS HANG OUT HERE AND KIDS HANG OUT THERE AND STUFF LIKE THAT OF ALMOST SEVEN ELEVENS, AND I'VE NEVER HAD THAT EXPERIENCE AND I HAVE NEVER I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I'LL SAY THIS, THOUGH, MR MAYOR PRO TEM, I'D SAY IF YOU GO, THERE'S A THERE'S A I BELIEVE IT'S A QUICK TRIP, NOT A RACETRACK. AND ITS WAY OUT OF OUR STOMPING GROUNDS. IT'S ON FORCED LANE JUST TO THE EAST OF 75. MAN.

THAT'S A ROUGH SITUATION RIGHT THERE. THERE'S SOME HANGING OUT. THERE'S SOME BEGGING THERE'S DALLAS. YES, SIR. BUT TO BE FAIR, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT AGREE THAT IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A REALLY TOUGH PLACE, BUT I BECAUSE I LOOK AT THE 7, 11, STONEBRIDGE AND ELDORADO AND WHICH IS A LITTLE MORE COMPARABLE 100% WE DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM HERE IN WEST

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MCKINNEY AGREED. AND I AND I, AND I MEAN, I'VE BEEN THERE AT ONE IN THE MORNING COMING BACK FROM FROM 7 11 THAT THAT I'VE BEEN AROUND FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS AT ELDORADO AND HARDEN. I MEAN, IT'S A GREAT PLACE. I MEAN , WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT, AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THE SAME.

WHAT WE'D HAVE EXPERIENCE FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS WITH THIS ONE. DO YOU HAVE? DO WE HAVE THAT PRESENTATION NOW? SO HERE'S THE WITHOUT SIGNAGE. HERE'S THE FACADE. IT'S THAT SO THE ALL THE MATERIALS WILL APPLY. UH, COMPLY WITH THE OVERALL PD STANDARDS AS WELL AS THE CITY. UM FOR MASONRY. THE. COLUMN WRAPS. IT'S REALLY HARD TO SEE ON FOR THE CANOPY, BUT THOSE ARE WILL BE FULL MASONRY ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP. I'VE GOT A PICTURE OF A COUPLE SOME ACTUAL PICTURES.

YES. SO THAT'S INSANE. ANTONIO. SURE UM, MY, MY GUESS IS THERE'S A MONUMENT SIGN UP FRONT AND THEN THOSE AND THEN THAT'S IT. THERE'S NO ELEVATED SIGN ON A POLE. NO PRETTY GIRLS SIGN ORDINANCE, IT'S NOT ALLOWED. UM HERE'S THE INSIDE OF THE NEW RESTORES AS WELL. UM PERIOD LEVEL. LAREDO TACO. ASPECT. HERE'S A NEW COFFEE BOILING INCORPORATE WITH COFFEE MACHINES THAT YOU KNOW, SORT OF DISCOUNT OF ALL THE THINGS YOU CAN GET A STARBUCKS PRETTY MUCH BUT JUST DISCOUNTED IN. YOU KNOW THE MACHINES THERE. HERE'S THE GRAB AND GO SECTION THEY HAVE NOW WITH THE FRESH FRUIT, UM, SANDWICHES, THINGS LIKE THAT. THIS IS YOU KNOW, DESIGNATED AS A NEIGHBORHOOD STORE. THEY LEND THOSE TWO BEING THE ONE STOP IN THE MORNING WHERE YOU CAN GET COFFEE, GAS, LUNCH AND STUFF ON THE WAY HOME IF YOU NEEDED TO GET WHATEVER. UM, YOU MAY NEED AND THAT'S IT. I GO BACK TO THE OTHER PICTURES, BUT THE OTHER. DISCUSSION. SO I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF COMMENTS BUT NOT NECESSARILY FOR YOU, MAN. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UM JENNIFER , DO YOU KNOW IF THE PD ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER RESTRICTS THE NUMBER OF PUMPS? LIKE THE ONE THAT LIKE FORESTS, AND WILMOTH DID. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IT DOES. BUT IF YOU'LL GIVE ME JUST TWO SECONDS TO REVIEW THE S U P SECTION OF OUR CODE, I CAN CONFIRM THAT I KNOW SOME OF OUR LEGACY. ZONING DISTRICTS LIKE B, G AND B. N DO RESTRICT IT, BUT THE OTHER CORNERS HAVE A BASE OF SEA PLANTS CENTER, WHICH I THINK HAS NO RESTRICTION RESTRICTION. SO I JUST I WAS SHARING MY THOUGHTS ON IT. AND THERE, UM I GUESS. LOOK AT IT FROM TWO WAYS. I THINK YOU KNOW? WHEN WE PLANNED WHEN WE APPROVED THE, UU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THAT ON WHAT WE CALL A GREENWAY ARTERIAL.

IT'S A FOUR LANE ROAD. AND SO I KIND OF PICTURE THIS SERENE. KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD COLLECTOR TYPE STREET WITH LOW INTENSITY ON THE TRAFFIC AND, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO A RIDGE OR A STONE BRIDGE OR SOMETHING. AND NOT A LOT OF COMMERCIAL AND CERTAINLY NOT A LOT OF COMMERCIAL INTENSITY. AND SO I GUESS HERE WE ARE ASKING FOR HIGHER INTENSITY. AND, UM. WE WE'VE PLACED THIS ROUNDABOUT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO KIND OF TAMP DOWN TRAFFIC AND SLOW TRAFFIC AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE PUTTING THEM RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER AND STRUGGLE WITH THAT SIDE KIND OF THE OUTSIDE, LOOKING IN OR FROM THE ROADWAY LOOKING AND BUT I ALSO FROM THE EVEN THOUGH THOSE HOMES AREN'T THERE YET FROM THE HOMES LOOKING OUT, I JUST I'M NOT OKAY WITH THE PROXIMITY THAT WE CREATE TO THESE SORT OF THINGS. UM I THINK IT'S JUST TOO HIGH OF AN INTENSITY NEXT TO A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. INTO CLOSE PROXIMITY. UM AND SO, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT KIND OF, UM. I UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT OF DO WE APPROVE IT? DO WE DO WE CONTROL IT TO PLAY DEFENSE A LITTLE BIT.

BUT I GUESS I'M NOT CONVINCED. THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND ONE OF THESE AT UM, THE OTHER CORNERS, ESPECIALLY IF THOSE CORNERS ARE DELAYED IN GETTING AND BEING DEVELOPED AT I LOOK AT THE MARKET ASKING FOR GAS STATIONS. IN THIS KIND OF THOROUGHFARE AREA OF WILMOTH. BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN DELAYED IN CREATING BLOOMINGDALE. AND SO THIS THIS SITE HAS A MAJOR ARTERIAL TO THE NORTH AND BLOOMINGDALE. IT HAS A STATE HIGHWAY IN 3 81 BLOCK TO THE SOUTH AND HAS HIGHWAY 75 1

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BLOCK ESSENTIALLY TO THE TO THE EAST OF IT. AND I THINK YOU KNOW , A GAS STATION WANTS TO BE HERE BECAUSE IT HAS. IT'S GOING TO HAVE A GOOD TRAFFIC NUMBERS. IT'S GOING TO HAVE A GOOD TRAFFIC NUMBERS IN THE MORNING. AND THEY CAN AVOID DEALING WITH THE HEARTACHE THAT IS 3 80 THE EXPENSE. THAT IS 75 THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW BLOOM DALE HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED AS THE THOROUGHFARE THAT IT WILL EVENTUALLY DEVELOP INTO AND SO I WOULD SAY THAT IF WE DON'T END UP WITH THIS S U P THAT DIDN'T AS BLOOMINGDALE DEVELOPS, YOU WILL FIND THESE INTENSITY USES ALONG BLOOM DALE RATHER THAN A LONG WILMOTH. BUT THAT'S THAT'S MY THOUGHT WAS. I JUST I THINK IT'S TOO HIGH OF AN INTENSITY USE IN WHAT WE'VE ASKED TO BE A LOWER INTENSITY THOROUGHFARE.

YOU KNOW WHAT THE. I'M SURE THERE'S BEEN STUDIES AND I'M SURE I'VE HEARD THEM BEFORE. BUT WHAT IS THE TRAFFIC COUNT FOR A 7 11 VERSUS A MCDONALD'S? I JUST DID DID I KNOW WE'VE CERTAINLY HAVE DONE TRAFFIC STUDIES, AND I'M SURE THAT WE HAVE. I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT WHO MAY KNOW MORE. I DON'T KNOW THAT OFF. THE TOP OF MY HEAD WITH THE DIFFERENCE IN TRAFFIC COUNTS WOULD BE YEAH. FROM THE LOOK OF THE AFRICAN. HE DOESN'T KNOW. ROAD OR LIKE I MEAN, THERE'S AN A KNOWN ESTIMATED TRAFFIC FOR THERE WOULD BE IN AND OUT OF A GAS STATION. THERE'S ONE ON AND I DON'T THINK FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS. I KNOW IT'S NUMBER LOOKS LIKE I DON'T EITHER. I'M ASKING THAT WAS A RHETORICAL QUESTION, ACTUALLY, DON'T KNOW.

CHARLIE, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? I'M THINKING IT'S GONNA HAPPEN ANYWAY. YEAH. WELL, I I'M JUST ALWAYS AMAZED HOW EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED WITH VAGRANCY AND EVERYTHING ELSE HERE IN MCKINNEY , AND MAYBE IT COMES IN 25 OR 30 YEARS, BUT IT DOESN'T EXIST NOW. I MEAN, YOU YOU GO TO ANY 7 11.

I MEAN, WE HAVE TONS OF THEM, AND I'VE ALWAYS KIND OF SURPRISED THAT THERE'S ANOTHER ONE POPPING UP SOMEWHERE. BUT THEY'RE RIGHT. THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO BUILD WHATEVER AND HOW MANY AND ADD TO OUR COMMERCIAL BASE. I DON'T MIND THAT. MM. I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE AT MCDONALD'S PROBABLY HAS THE HIGHER UM, CAR COUNT. I WOULD JUST SEEMED TO ME. UM, BUT AND SO I DON'T. I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH SOMETHING THAT'S EVENTUALLY PROBABLY GOING TO BE IN THIS CORNER AND GETTING IT NOW WHERE WE CAN CONTROL IT, AND THEY WILL HAVE A NICE PRODUCT. SO AND I KNOW IT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR. BUT MY THINKING IS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO MOVE IN. UM IF WE WERE IF WE WERE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO GRANT THIS WAS A REZONING FROM A OFFICE. OR A RESIDENTIAL TO THE SHOES, AND I TOLD THEY WOULD BE ON BOARD WITH THAT ARGUMENT. BUT IT'S NOT THAT IF WE IF THIS IS NOT APPROVED NO. I'M SAYING THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA WANNA SAY I'M SORRY. I LIKE THE APPLAUSE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE IT BACK IN A SECOND. UM A BACKING UP TO THIS. I GOTTA BELIEVE I HAVE A CHOICE BE BACKED UP TO A MCDONALD'S. WITH ALL THE FOOD SMELLS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES ON IN THE TRAFFIC AND THE 24 HOURS. UM I KNOW THAT THAT'S A POSSIBILITY HERE. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE OFFICE ON THIS CORNER. I THINK IT'S COMMERCIAL. AND THE USES ARE GOING TO BE ANY. ANY COMMERCIAL USE THAT PRIVATE WILL BE ON THIS CORNER IS NOT GOING TO FAST FOOD IS NOT GOING TO BE ONE THAT RESIDENTS BEHIND ARE GONNA WOULD CHOOSE IF THEY COULD CHOOSE, BUT HERE'S THE GREAT NEWS. THEY ACTUALLY DO CHOOSE WHEN THEY IF THIS IS APPROVED WHEN THEY COME TO LOOK AT THE HOUSE. THEY ACTUALLY NOW HAVE A KNOWN QUANTITY AND THAT WE'RE MAKING A CHOICE ACTUALLY LIKE THAT, BETTER THAN THIS NOT HAPPENING, AND THEN THEY BY NOT KNOWING AND PEOPLE YOU KNOW THEY BUY, AND THEY ASSUME THAT NOTHING BUILT AND WHEN A WHEN IT STARTS GOING UP AS MCDONALD'S. EVERYONE COMES IN HERE AND MY GOSH, HOW COULD YOU ALLOW THAT? MCDONALD'S IS 24 HOURS IN THE FOOD SMELL, AND IT'S HORRIBLE AND IT'S TRACKS RODENTS IN MICE AND ON AND ON AND ON. AND OF COURSE, WE SAY, WELL, IT'S BY RIGHT SO FOR ME.

KNOWING THAT THAT. IF IT'S APPROVED. THIS IS A KNOWN QUANTITY THAT PEOPLE WILL MAKE THE DECISION. THAT'S THAT'S MORE . I SEE THAT. SO I SAID THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WAS STATED BEFORE. UM GIVE ME A KNOWN QUANTITY OF PEOPLE CAN DECIDE TO LIVE BY VERSUS AN UNKNOWN. I'D RATHER GIVE THEM THAT DECISION. THERE'S A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THRU REQUIREMENTS, THE ON THE SPOT. AND ALSO EVERY RESIDENT AROUND THERE IS GOING TO BE BUYING GAS AT THIS PLACE.

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WE'RE NOT. 2.9 MILES, ANOTHER 7 11. THE STREET. UM COSTCO. I MEAN, HOLD ON. WE CAN'T WE CAN'T HAVE THE I REMEMBER IN COUNSELOR ROGERS TELL ME IF YOU THINK I'M WRONG. WHEN TOM THUMB WAS BUILT.

1998. THE FOLKS THERE AND VISTA OF ELDORADO WERE VERY UPSET ABOUT IT. AND YOU KNOW IT BLENDS IN THESE THINGS BLEND IN. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS GREEN SPACE AND THEN WE DON'T. IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY, AND THEN IT BLENDS IN. AND, UM IT HASN'T BEEN. I WON'T REPEAT. EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SET UP HERE. BUT THE THING THAT REALLY BUGS ME IS ACROSS THE STREET TO THE NORTH. WE HAVE THE IT IS THE WILD WEST. THEY CAN BUILD WHAT THEY WANT. THEY DON'T HAVE TO OBEY ANY OF OUR RULES AND PUT THE SPINNING SIGN UP THERE. AND I'M I WANT TO PROTECT AGAINST THAT LAST ANECDOTAL SHARE. I'VE SAID THIS ONE BEFORE UP HERE ON THE DICE, BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, YEARS AGO, SPROUTS WANTED TO COME TO HARDEN VIRGINIA, AND PEOPLE FOUGHT IT AND FOUGHT IT AND FOUGHT UNTIL SPROUTS WENT AWAY AND SPROUTS WENT TO CUSTER IN VIRGINIA. AND WHAT DID THE FOLKS END UP WITH? WALMART. AND THINGS CAN GET WORSE. UM I'M GONNA I TORN, BUT I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS BASED ON WHAT YOU SAID, MR MAYOR ABOUT FOLKS BEING ABLE TO PICK WHAT THEY BACK UP TO, IN MY DEEP FEAR OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THE IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS AND THAT IS WHERE I'VE ENDED. I'M SORRY. I KNOW IT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR. BUT BUT I FEEL WE HAVE CONTROL NOW, AND PEOPLE HAVE A CHOICE. THAT'S WHERE I'M GONNA. WITH THAT ENTERTAINMENT MOTION. I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

SECOND. CAST YOUR VOTES AND MY REGISTRAR HAS GONE AWAY TOO. GO IN. CAN WE GO TO HAVE A. I MEAN, YES. YES. MOTION PASSES. UM, NEXT ITEM. 220054 Z FOUR CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING TO

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “AG” - Agricultural District to “LI” - Light Industrial District, Located Approximately 700 Feet South of Harry McKillop Boulevard and on the West Side of Airport Drive, and Accompanying Ordinance]

CONSIDER AND ACT ON REQUEST OF REASON. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM AGRICULTURE DISTRICT TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 700 FT. SOUTH OF HARRY MCKILLOP BOULEVARD ON THE WEST SIDE OF AIRPORT, DRIVING A COMPANY AN ORDINANCE THANK YOU, MR MAYOR.

AS YOU READ, THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST. THIS ONE WAS BEFORE YOU . I BELIEVE IT WAS AT YOUR LAST MEETING WHERE THERE WAS A TABLE REQUEST DUE TO A NOTICING ERROR. SO IT IS BACK TONIGHT. THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 1.28 ACRES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HARRY MCKILLOP AND AIRPORT DRIVE FROM A G AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT TO L I LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT. THIS PARTICULAR TRACK IS LOCATED IN AN AREA OF OUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN THAT IS DESIGNATED FOR INDUSTRIAL USES. THE AREA IS ALREADY LARGELY DEVELOPING FOUR SAID, UM, USES THIS TRACT ITSELF IS JUST TRYING TO JOIN THE CREW. I SUPPOSE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST WITH THE APPLICANTS. IT IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONS ALSO CONSIDERED THE ITEM AND IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR JENNIFER. NO IT'S LINED INDUSTRIAL. BUT ONCE THE ULTIMATE END USER DO WE KNOW I WILL DEFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU FOR THE APPLICANT. PLEASE COME UP. POOR GUY THAT'S BEEN SITTING SMELL 7 11 KINDS. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE . MY NAME IS JOHN TEDESCO, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT WITH KIMMY HORN ASSOCIATES TO 60, EAST DAVIS STREET SUITE. 100 MCKINNEY, TEXAS 75069. I AM REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. THE CURRENTLY AN OWNER. THE LAND IS BEING SOLD, UM I BELIEVE ON THURSDAY, UM TO A LOCAL DEVELOPER HERE, THE AUTO HILL REPAIR GROUP THAT'S OFF OF US. 3 80, THE OWNERSHIP TEAM THERE HAS A DEVELOPMENT TEAM THERE WISHING TO REDEVELOP THIS AS A INDUSTRIAL FACILITY HAVE APPROXIMATELY, UM, SITE PLANTED AROUND 13,000 SQUARE FEET.

EXCUSE ME, 12,750 SQUARE FEET MORE OR LESS. THERE IS NO CURRENT PLAN FOR A NEW USER. I SPOKE WITH THE DEVELOPER. UM, YESTERDAY HE'S LOOKING AT KICKS SOME TIRES AROUND WITH SOME POTENTIAL USERS. BUT HE DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN MIND RIGHT NOW, BUT THE EMPHASIS WILL BE ON INDUSTRIAL USE. NO OUTDOOR STORAGE. NO. ANYTHING CRAZY LIKE THAT, JUST AS JENNIFER ALLUDED

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TO JOINING THE CREW THAT IS OVER HERE CURRENTLY. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU. ALRIGHT THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE ENTERTAIN A MOTION. TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. I WILL. SECOND HE'S CAST YOUR VOTES. YES, AMOUNTS. STILL NOT WORKING.

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to Modify the Development Standards and to Allow for Single Family Residential Uses, Located Approximately 1,430 Feet South of Future Wilmeth Road and on the West Side of Future Taylor Burke Drive, and Accompanying Ordinance]

NEXT ITEM 220063 TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AND ACT ON REQUEST TO FREEZE ON THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT GENERALLY TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND TO ALLOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 1430 FT. SOUTH OF FUTURE WILMOTH ROAD ON THE WEST SIDE OF FUTURE TAYLOR BURKE DRIVE AND ACCOMPANYING ORDINANCE. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. AS YOU READ. THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY SEVEN ACRES OF THE PAINTED TREE EAST MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT. THIS ITEM AND THE NEXT ITEM SORT OF WORK IN TANDEM TOGETHER. THEY'RE JUST TWO SEPARATE TRACKS WITHIN THAT OVERALL PAINTED TREE. UM MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY. SO THE RESIGNING REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS JUST FOR SEVEN ACRES WITHIN THE PAINTED TREE EAST DEVELOPMENT THEIR LAKESIDE DISTRICT. THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE TO MODIFY THE FRONT YARD SETBACK REQUIREMENT FOR THE SHOWCASE LOTS THAT WILL LEAD INTO THE PRIMARY AMENITY CENTER KNOWN AS THE OUTPOST FOR THE LAKESIDE EDITION. THE REQUEST WOULD ALLOW FOR ABOUT 20 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, UM. YES THAT'S CORRECT. ONE WOULD ALLOW FOR APPROXIMATELY 20 RESIDENTIAL LOTS TO REDUCE THAT FRONT YARD SETBACK FROM THE TYPICALLY REQUIRED 20 FT TO 10 FT STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT REDUCTION IN THE FRONT YARD SETBACK. THE LOT SIZES FOR THESE PARTICULAR TRACKS OR 70 FT WIDE LOTS IN THE IDEA IS TO HELP EMPHASIZE THAT STREET INTO THAT OUTPOST AMENITY CENTER, SO THIS WILL ALLOW FOR THE LOTS TO OR THE UNITS TO BE PULLED A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE STREET. TO HELP CREATE THAT MASSING AND SCALE FOR THAT STREETSCAPE AND OPEN UP THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY FOR PERHAPS DETACHED GARAGES OR OTHER ITEMS. SO, UM, WE ARE REVIEWED TO REQUEST WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAS ALSO REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND IS OFFERING A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. AND I KNOW OUR APPLICANT IS IN THE BACK AS WELL. QUESTIONS FOR JENNIFER. THANK YOU WITH THE APPLICANT, PLEASE COME UP. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL. IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN UP HERE. UH WE'RE STILL PROGRESSING AND PAIN INJURY BUT DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING MUCH TO HAVE. I MEAN, THIS IS ALL PART OF THE BIG MASTER PLAN. PROBABLY MORE OF THE OVERSIGHT. MORE THAN ANYTHING WE WERE DOING. THE PD IS YOU KNOW, THESE ARE SOME OF OUR LARGEST LOTS AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THE PORCHES AND THAT STREETSCAPE SCALE BETTER. UM YOU KNOW, IN RELATIONSHIP TO WHAT THE OVERALL VISION IS.

QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE THAT LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? SHOULD HAVE HAD YOU GUYS UP FRONT. LAST COUPLE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION BECAUSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVES ASYLUM. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. CUT.

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to Modify the Development Standards and to Allow for Single Family Residential Uses, Located Approximately 480 Feet North of Future Wilmeth Road and Approximately 650 Feet West of County Road 943, and Accompanying Ordinance]

PASSES ARE FINAL. ONE IS CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ACT ON REQUEST OF HIS OWN SUBJECT. PROPERTY FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT GENERAL TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND ALLOWED FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 480 FT. ANY ROAD 9 43 AND ACCOMPANYING ORDINANCE, JENNIFER THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. SAME SONG, DIFFERENT VERSE. THIS IS THE PAINTED TREE NORTH ZONING LIKE THE MUSIC REFERENCE. THANK YOU GO THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST. IT'S IT IS A MIRROR IMAGE OF THE ONE YOU JUST CONSIDERED, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR APPROXIMATELY 15 ACRES OF THE WOODLANDS DISTRICT.

THE PAINTED TREE DEVELOPMENT. TO HAVE REDUCED FRONT YARD SETBACKS FROM 20 FT. TO 10, ALTHOUGH THESE UNITS ARE NOT LEADING TO ANY SORT OF AMENITY FEATURE OUTPOST, THEY ARE THE PRIMARY.

IT IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY INTERESTS IS INTO THE WOODLANDS DISTRICT, AND SO THEREFORE THEY WANT TO DO THAT SAME SHOWCASE OF THE STREETSCAPE MOVING INTO THIS PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS STAFFS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, AS DID PLANNING AND ZONING

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COMMISSION. QUESTIONS. SURE. APPLICANT YOU CAN. OKAY I WAS HOPING YOU WERE GONNA SAY THAT.

MAKE A MOTION TO DENY IT. OKAY, UM SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. MR BERRY MOVED. WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE APPROVED. THIS ITEM IS PRESENTED. ONE SECOND CAST YOUR VOTES. THAT CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA OF ACTION ITEMS.

[CITIZEN COMMENTS ON MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA]

CITIZEN COMMENTS ON MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA. I DON'T SHOW ANYONE WHO SIGNED UP. THERE'S ONE UM BERNSTEIN, WILLIAMS. NO I'M STEVE. I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO YOU. I SHOULD HAVE HAD NO POLICE COME UP. I M I DID NOT THINK IN THE BEGINNING. I COULD HAVE HAD YOU SPEAK THEN AND I REALLY APOLOGIZE. I DIDN'T DO THAT. YOU STAYED THIS WHOLE TIME. ENJOYED THIS WONDERFUL MEETING. WOW BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, COUNCIL PEOPLE, MADAM. UM WHAT I WAS CONCERNED WHENEVER AT THE COMMUNITY IMPACT. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RENTAL PROPERTIES. SO UM, UM MY CONCERN IS THAT I'M A HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER RECIPIENT. AND, UM RAED LIVE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY PUT SO MUCH THOUGHT INTO HOW. WE ARE BUILDING THESE ANTIQUATED IT.

YOU STACKING PEOPLE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER, AND THEY'RE IN MY OPINION, TOO CLOSE TOGETHER OVER THERE OFTEN. MACKINNON RANCH AND NOW ON COLLIN MCKINNEY AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MORE OF THESE YOU KNOW MINI A TOUR. MONSTER'S BILL THAT'S GOING TO CALL THE EVENTUAL PROBLEMS. SO I HOPE BECAUSE I'M LISTENING TO EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID TONIGHT AND IT WAS ORDAINED BY THE FATHER THAT I HEAR IT. THAT WE PUT A LOT MORE THOUGHT INTO BUILDING THOSE ARE BUILDING THEM BECAUSE STACKING PEOPLE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER RIGHT NOW I LIVE AT. UM I LIVED IN PLAYING ALMOST OF MY LIFE. I MEAN, MOST OF THE TIME I'VE BEEN IN NORTH TEXAS, SO THIS IS A BRAND NEW PROBLEM FOR ME BECAUSE I'VE NEVER LIVED IN A QUOTE UNQUOTE. PUBLIC HOUSING SITUATION. UM WHEN I MOVED HERE, OF COURSE I HAD A HOME. AND SO BECAUSE OF THE AREAS BECOME SO CONGESTED WITH PEOPLE NEED AND DECENT PLACES TO LIVE PEOPLE HOUSE ENTRANCE VOUCHERS DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.

WE'RE KIND OF STUCK IN BETWEEN THE ROCK AND THE HARD PLACE AND THE ROCK AND HARD PLACE IN THE ROCK AND HARD PLACE. NO AMENITIES THERE IS IT IS JUST THE SADDEST THING I'VE EVER EXPERIENCED. AND, UH, I HOPE THAT, UM. WHEN WE BUILD THESE RENTAL PLACES, UM, THAT WE CAN STOP DOING THE OLD ANTIQUATED ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM. AND STARTE HOUSE INTROSPECT ACTUALLY KIND OF SLIPPING, MAN. SLIP THEM INTO THESE OTHER PLACES. DID YOU BUILDING I'VE BEEN WHERE I AM.

SINCE 2015. I FEEL STUCK. WE'VE HAD MOLD WE'VE HAD RAT ROACHES. NOW WE GOT WOOD BEETLES. UM I'VE BEEN AFFECTED BY, UM SOME GROW MO GROWTH AND ON AND ON. BUT UM , IT'S SUPER UNSAFE. UNHEALTHY IS UNKIND, YOU KNOW, TO PUT PEOPLE IN THESE SLEEPING SITUATIONS THAT ARE NOT CONDUCIVE TO HEALTHY LIFESTYLES . IT'S JUST IT'S NOT WORKING. I WISH SOMEBODY IN AMERICA WHICH JUST KIND OF STAND UP AND SAY WE'RE GONNA STOP DOING IT. WE'RE GONNA STOP DOING IT. I LIVE ON A PARKING LOT. WHEN CAN YOU RANCHES RIGHT HERE IN THE PARKING LOT IS RIGHT HERE. RIGHT HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT PLEASE. CAN WE, YOU KNOW, START A NEW WITH STICKING PEOPLE AND ME, SO RIGHT HOLES THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELCOME. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT COUNCIL AND MANAGER

[COUNCIL AND MANAGER COMMENTS]

COMMENTS. THERE'S JUST. YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE DO THAT? WELL, ACTUALLY, I'LL WAIT. NOT JUST ADDRESS IT WHEN I SPEAK, BUT, UM , I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING TO YOUR COMMENTS, BUT FROM PHILLIPS . I HAD A GREAT EXPERIENCE THIS WEEK I WAS OUT TO DINNER WITH MY BUDDY JIM AND WE RAN INTO ONE OF MY FORMER ATHLETES. THAT I HAD WATCHED IN HIGH SCHOOL AND HAD THE OCCASION TO EXCHANGE MY CELL

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PHONE NUMBER WITH HIM. HE'S 28 YEARS OLD AND I RECALL DRIVING HOME THAT I FORGOT TO TELL HIM.

MY FAVORITE STORY ABOUT HIS FAMILY IS YOUNGEST BROTHER LUKE WAS PLAYING JUNIOR HIGH FOOTBALL . HE WAS PLAYING SAFETY AND HE WENT TO TACKLE THE RUNNING BACK AND HE WAS THE LAST MAN OUT THERE TO STOP HIM. AND LITTLE LUKE HIT HIM WITH EVERYTHING HE HAD, AND GOD DIDN'T FAZE HIM AT ALL. HE WOUND UP DRAPING HIMSELF AROUND THE GUY'S FEET, BUT HE WOULDN'T LET GO UNTIL HIS TEAMMATES GOT THERE TO HELP HIM MAKE THAT TACKLE AND I ALWAYS ADMIRED LUKE FOR HANGING ON TO THAT GUY THE WAY HE DID BECAUSE IT WAS AGAINST ALL ODDS THAT HE WOULD GET HIM TO THE GROUND. AND I SENT THAT IN A TEXT. HIS BROTHER ANDY AND ANDY WROTE ME BACK AND HE TOLD ME, HE SAID.

WELL, PERHAPS YOU SAW SOMETHING IN HIM THAT NOBODY ELSE DID BECAUSE HE JUST GRADUATED FROM THE NAVAL ACADEMY AND HE WILL GO TO UH, TRAINING DOWN IN PENSACOLA, AND HE WILL BECOME ONE OF THE NAVY'S NEWEST FIGHTER PILOTS. DON'T GIVE UP ATTITUDE AND IT WAS SO GREAT UH, TO HEAR THAT, AND I HAD A PICTURE OF A LITTLE LOOP GRADUATING RIGHT THERE AND SHAKING THE PRESIDENT'S HAND AS HE GRADUATED FROM THE NAVAL ACADEMY. AND THAT'S ONE OF YOUR KIDS THAT YOU NEED TO BE REALLY, REALLY PROUD OF, BECAUSE THEY'RE OUT THERE MAKING A NAME FROM MCKINNEY, TEXAS, AND THEY'RE GOOD KIDS WHO LEARNED GOOD VALUES HERE PLAYING SPORTS IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS, AND WENT ON TO BE A LEADER IN THE WORLD AND CHANGE THE WORLD AS HE SEES FIT. SO SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF. THANK YOU. IT'S JEFF. KEEP IT SHORT TONIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE TEAM THAT BROUGHT DC TO MCKINNEY THIS YEAR. I AM A FORMER BAND NERD. I WAS TOTALLY GEEKED OUT AT THE EVENTS AND I WAS SITTING NEXT TO PETER TOKAR, PRESIDENT OF R E. D. C AND BARBARA KELLY, WHO ALSO WERE FELLOW BANNERS. WE JUST BONDED TOGETHER AND REALLY JUST SETTING ALL OF THESE BANDS THAT ARE REALLY QUITE IMPRESSIVE, SO I JUST WANT TO THANK THAT TEAM AGAIN REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO NEXT YEAR. NOW I KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. SO I'LL BE THERE WITH BELLS ON, UM, WANTED TO ALSO WISH ALL OF THE KIDS WHO WILL BE GOING BACK TO SCHOOL. BY THE TIME WE MEET AGAIN, SO SCHOOL BE STARTING SOON, SO WILL BE WISHING YOU ALL A WONDERFUL, SAFE AND PRODUCTIVE YEAR. GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU. NOTHING FOR ME, MAYOR. THAT'S MY BROTHER. I GOT TO GO LAST WEEK WITH YOU, MR MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN CLAUDIA TO THE GRADUATION OF THE L. AND AT LAST INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, WHICH I THINK IT'S KIND OF IN ITS FIRST YEAR OF THAT SCALE, AND IT'S A ABOUT 15 TEENAGERS IN OUR AREA THAT THAT GOT OPPORTUNITIES TO OBTAIN INTERN WITH BUSINESSES IN THE AREA. AND KIND OF LEARN, UM IT MAY BE SOME TRADES THAT THEY TYPICALLY WOULDN'T THERE WAS A ACCOUNTING FIRMS AND UM PRINTING COMPANIES AND ALL SORTS OF PARTICIPANTS. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK A Y L AND IT LAST FOR CREATING THAT OPPORTUNITY, AND FOR ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT PARTICIPATED AND THEN GAVE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO THE KIDS. THEY DID SUCH A GOOD JOB. IN THAT OUR ECHO WHAT DR FELTUS SAID IN SCHOOL STARTING NEXT WEEK. TEACHERS I BELIEVE STARTED THIS WEEK AND SO HAS THE WHY WAS THE HUSBAND OF A TEACHER AND THE PARENT OF KIDS? IT IS GOING TO BE A LOT. UM LEADERSHIP . MCKINNEY KICKS OFF THEIR NEW CLASS THIS THURSDAY. UM AND SO CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THOSE THAT WERE SELECTED INTO THAT CLASS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE EVERYBODY. UM I MENTIONED LAST WEEK ABOUT HOW I SPEND A LOT OF EVENINGS STARING AT THE SILOS LATELY. AND MY WIFE AND I THOUGHT ALONG WITH WITH SOME CITY STAFF THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO JUST DO A TAILGATE AT THE SILOS. AND SO ON AUGUST 12TH NEXT FRIDAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FOOD TRUCK OUT THERE, AND WE'RE GOING TO PARK CARS AND SIT IN A LAWN CHAIRS AND MEET THE ARTIST AND MAYBE WATCH HIM PAIN A LITTLE BIT, AND SO WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO GET TOGETHER WITH YOUR COMMUNITY. AND WATCH A WORLD CLASS ARTISTS DO WORK AND CREATE SOMETHING THAT THIS COMMUNITY WILL VALUE FOR. A LONG TIME. SO I HAVE THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO THAT, MR MAYOR. MR MAYOR. I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE ISSUES. YOU MENTIONED MAM AND TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES. LET'S SAY YOU HAVE TO TOWN HOMES. BOTH OF THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. WE'RE $300,000. AND THEN YOU GET THAT 28% TAX INCREASE OR OR EXCUSE ME. APPRAISAL INCREASE? WELL, THEY'RE BOTH WERE 3 84. THE ONE THAT'S OWNED PERSONALLY HAS A 10% MAX ESCALATOR ON THE AMOUNT OF TAXES THEY CAN PAY. THEY PAY

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TAXES ON 3 30, THE ONE THAT'S RENTED DOES NOT THEY'RE PAYING AN ADDITIONAL ABOUT $250 A CITY TAXES EVERY YEAR, SAYING THEY'RE PAYING TAX ON THE WHOLE 3 84, AND THEY DON'T OWN THE PLACE.

AND THERE IS NO MECHANISM FOR THEM TO GET A TAX DEDUCTION ON THAT EXTRA PROPERTY TAX BECAUSE JUST RENT THIS ALL REALLY STRUCK ME. WHEN I LEFT DENVER FOR A BUSINESS MEETING THAT I WAS IN.

I WAS ON. I 70 JUST NORTH OF DENVER, AND I SAW NO LESS THAN NINE CONSTRUCTION CRANES BUILDING WHAT APPEARED TO ME TO BE ABOUT 12 OR 15 STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF DOWNTOWN DENVER. AND MHM . THANK YOU JUST BY VIRTUE OF CIRCUMSTANCE. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S ANYBODY'S FAULT, BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE AN AWARENESS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AS FAR AS BECOMING A NATION OF RENTERS TO A LARGE EXTENT TO GENERATE MAYBE A GENERATION OF RENTERS FOR THESE YOUNGER FOLKS AND OLDER FOLKS. THEY DON'T HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE PROPERTY TAX HITS, HIT THEM MORE IN AN INDIRECT WAY THAT THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT. SO IT'S LONG BEEN ON MY MIND. I WANTED MORE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP. HERE IN MCKINNEY, WHERE I'VE GOT SOME LEVEL OF INFLUENCE, AND IT'S JUST MY COMMITMENT TO KEEP TURNING OVER EVERY STONE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT. MIRRORED CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, MEMBERS OF PUBLIC CITY MCKINNEY IS ENFORCING OUR OUTSIDE WATERING GUIDELINES TO DEAL WITH EXCESSIVE HEAT AND DROUGHT CONDITIONS AFFECTING THE REGION'S RESERVOIR LEVEL LEVELS.

LANDSCAPE WATERING IS THE SINGLE MOST SIGNIFICANT USE OF WATER. AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS, BUT IT ACTUALLY DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS ACCOUNTS FOR UP TO 60% OF CITYWIDE WATER USE WHILE OUR WATER SUPPLIES ARE CURRENTLY SUFFICIENT, ADDITIONAL CONSERVATION MEASURES MAY BE PUT IN PLACE SHOULD DROUGHT CONDITIONS CONTINUE. I KNOW THAT I HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY WITH CITY MANAGERS AND THE WATER DISTRICT. I WAS LOOKING AT SOME OF THE DATA THAT THEY PROVIDED TO US THE WATER DISTRICT AROUND JULY 12TH. SET A RECORD FOR THE AMOUNT OF WATER PUMPED. IT WAS OVER 600 MILLION GALLONS THAT DAY. CITY MCKINNEY IS ABOUT 1/10 OF THAT WE PUMPED 60 MILLION GALLONS. A NORMAL WINTER DAY WE PUMP AROUND 22 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. SO THAT'S YOUR TYPICAL. WE KNOW THAT HOUSEHOLD USAGE. FOR NEEDS IS AROUND 22 MILLION GALLONS A DAY THAT YOU'RE SHOWERING AND WHATEVER THE TYPICAL HOUSEHOLD USAGE AND WE PUMPED 60 MILLION GALLONS A YEAR . SUMMER USAGE WILL GO UP FOR OTHER REASONS. YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU'LL TAKE AN EXTRA SHOWER DAY BECAUSE IT'S HOT AND YOU MAYBE HAVE TO TOP OFF YOUR POOL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE LION'S SHARE OF THAT WATER IS BEING PUT ON LAWNS AND IRRIGATE OR FOR LANDSCAPING. AND IT'S GREAT THAT WE CAN DO THAT. BUT WE ARE ASKING FOLKS TO BE MINDFUL RIGHT NOW OR TWO DAYS A WEEK. FRISCO OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES, THE CITY WE KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THEIR THEIR REQUIREMENT IN THE SUMMER MONTHS IS ONE DAY A WEEK. THAT'S THEIR LIMIT. ONE DAY A WEEK WATERING FOR LANDSCAPING. THAT'S NOT A SPECIAL THAT'S JUST THEIR SUMMERTIME WATERING. OUR SUMMERTIME WATER IS TWICE A WEEK. NO WATER IN BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 10 AM I THINK IT'S SIX PM BECAUSE WHEN YOU SPRAY WATER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY LIKE THAT, IT EVAPORATES AND YOU'RE WASTING IT. UM THE WATER SYSTEM . WE HAVE WATER IN OUR RESERVOIRS, AND WE'RE BLESSED WITH THAT. WE'VE GOT A NEW ONE COMING ONLINE. BUT REALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING IS WE'RE PUSHING OUR EQUIPMENT. YOU CAN ONLY TREAT SO MUCH WATER IN A DAY. AND NOW WE'LL BE ADDING TO THAT AS WELL IN THE COMING YEARS AS WE GROW, BUT WE DO ASK FOLKS THAT THAT REALLY TYPICAL TIME IS FROM NOW UNTIL ABOUT LABOR DAY, AND THAT'S WHEN YOU START TO SEE THE USAGE TAPER OFF BECAUSE THE TEMPERATURES MODERATE, WE FINALLY MAYBE GET SOME RAIN. BUT RIGHT NOW, THIS IS A TOUGH PERIOD. WE DO ASK FOLKS TO STICK TO TWICE A WEEK BECAUSE IF WE CAN'T WE CAN'T GET THESE NUMBERS DOWN TO MANAGEABLE LEVELS. WE ARE THEY ARE GOING TO COME REQUIRE ASKED FOR US TO DO A MANDATORY ONE DAY PER WEEK, AND THAT WILL BE ENFORCEMENT AND ALL OF THAT, WHICH WE HOPE WE DON'T HAVE TO GET TO. BUT ANYWAY, JUST A REMINDER TO FOLKS. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, YOU CAN FIND MORE ABOUT OUR WATERING GUIDELINES ON OUR WEBSITE IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS DOT ORG. FORWARD SLASH WATER SMART, THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR, CERTAINLY ECHO THE MARCHING DRUM CORPS COMPETITION . THAT WAS AWESOME. AND DEAN GLAD HE WAS HERE THAT WE COULD CELEBRATE THE WORK HE DID, AND EVERYONE'S WORK THAT THEY DID. I WANT TO JUST SAY THAT I HEAR YOU AND I CERTAINLY ECHO WITH WITH COUNCILMAN CLAUDIUS SAID. REGARDING ANY TIME WE CAN FIND OWNERSHIP AWAY TO HELP AN OWNERSHIP AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE LIMITED MEANS TO DO THAT. BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW AS A CITY. WE HAVE IDENTIFIED SOME OF THOSE AND WE ARE DOING THOSE COTTON GROVES IS A IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY . THE CITY IS INVOLVED IN WITH OUR HELP ME. UM HAVEN'T HEARD AROUND A BLANK TO PROVIDE A OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY FOR HOMES ON RENTAL PROPERTIES. WE'VE DONE PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS AND RENOVATING MERIT HOMES, FOR EXAMPLE, BUT ALSO THE INDEPENDENCE WHICH IS A ABSOLUTE FULL MARKET AMENITY AS FAR AS WHAT IS THERE THE SPACE IS THE.

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AREAS THAT POOR FACILITY ALL ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN THAN A MARKET RATE, AND WE'RE ABLE TO WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN BY BEING A PARTNER IN VARIOUS DIFFERENT WAYS, DEPENDING ON WHICH PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE'RE EXPLORING NOW. PFCS PUBLIC FINANCE CORPORATIONS THAT CAN THAT CAN BE INVOLVED AND THE REASON WHY WE DO. THAT IS BECAUSE AS A AS AN OWNER, I'LL PUT QUOTES OF PARTNER IN THESE PROPERTIES. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENSURE THINGS THAT THE MARKET . PRIVATE MARKET WON'T DO BECAUSE THERE THEY'RE LOOKING AT JUST STRAIGHT TAX CREDIT PROGRAMS ARE FINANCING WHATNOT. IT'S THE THINGS THAT GET CUT WITH THINGS. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NUMBER ONE. THE DNC IS CRAMMED AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. THE AMENITIES ARE LOWERED TO THE GREATEST EXTENT THEY CAN BE, AND IT'S ALL ABOUT EFFICIENCY OF THE DOLLAR VERSUS YOU KNOW THE DIGNITY OF THE LIFESTYLE. SO WE DO SEE THAT IN THIS COUNCIL HAS TAKEN A ACTIVE, PROACTIVE ROLE IN TRYING TO IDENTIFY WAYS THAT WE CAN BE ENGAGED AND PROVIDING YOU KNOW, BUT DEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN IN THAT WAY AND AGAIN. OUR TOOLS ARE LIMITED BECAUSE WE DON'T WE CAN'T DICTATE WHAT'S BUILT. UM, UNLESS WE'RE PARTNERS. SO. THAT'S JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU BY THE WAY TO LOOK AT THE INDEPENDENCE. IT'S JUST WENT AND DURING THE OPENING, AND IT REALLY IS SPECTACULAR AND WHAT THEY DID MERIT IS ALSO SOMETHING WORTH LOOKING AT. AND COTTON GROUPS. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS IS OF ANY OPPORTUNITY NOW, BUT BUT CERTAINLY BEEN SUCCESSFUL. YOU'LL SEE MORE OF THAT. SHE NEEDS TO KNOW THAT NOBODY ON THIS COUNCIL HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THOSE APARTMENTS SHE'S TALKING ABOUT. ESPECIALLY THE ONE. YEAH. SO I THINK THERE WAS I SORT TOO SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND BY THE WAY, IF MY WIFE WERE HERE, AND IF YOU KNOW MY WIFE IF YOU EVER SEEN HER, YOU KNOW THAT SHE HAS NEVER SEEN WITHOUT A HAT. SHE WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE YOUR HAT AND SHE WOULD BE HAVE A HAT OFF WITH YOU. IF SHE WAS HERE SHE IS. SHE IS A HAT PERSON SO ANYWAY. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND I SINCERELY MEAN THAT WITH THAT MOTION TO ADJOURN COMMOTION, WE ADJOURN. SECOND ALL IN FAVOR. AYE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.