Aug 16, 2022 City Council Work Session on 2022-08-16 4:00 PM

[CALL TO ORDER]

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GOOD AFTERNOON. WE WILL CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER TODAY IS TUESDAY, AUGUST 16TH YEAR 2022 WERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 2 22 NORTH TENNESSEE STREET. THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. IT IS FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS. DO NOT SHOW ANYBODY HAS SIGNED UP. WE'LL DISCUSS REGULAR MEETING AGENDA ITEMS IF THERE IS ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA. COUNCIL LIKE TO SPEAK WITH STAFF. THEY ARE HERE AND READY TO DISCUSS.

ANYBODY. AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO WORK SESSION ITEMS. 22 0745 UPDATE ON THE CITY ELECTION OF

[Update on the City Election of November 8, 2022, the City Electioneering Ordinance, and Political Signs within the City]

THAT'S EXODUS. MHM. WAIT FOR THESE FOLKS TO CLEAR OUT AND GOOD AFTERNOON MARIAN COUNCIL AND I'LL ADD A VERY FINELY DRESSED MAYOR AND COUNCIL THIS AFTERNOON. EMPRESS DRAIN THE CITY SECRETARY. I'LL BE PROVIDING AN UPDATE ALONG WITH OUR CODE SERVICES TEAM IN REGARD TO THE UPCOMING ELECTION AND THE ISSUE OF ELECTIONEERING AND POLITICAL SIGNS. VERY QUICKLY.

THERE IS AN ELECTION THAT WILL BE COMING IN THE NEXT. UH IN THIS FALL ON NOVEMBER, 8TH TO ADDRESS THE ITEM OF THE LOCAL OPTION ELECTION TO LEGALIZE THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES. AS YOU RECALL. THIS ITEM WAS BROUGHT FORWARD BY PETITION OF THE CITIZENS OF MCKINNEY AND PROPERLY BROUGHT FORWARD IN A BALLOT IN WHICH YOU CALL THAT ELECTION BACK IN MARCH. WE WILL PROVIDE A CONTRACT FOR SERVICES WITH THE COLLIN COUNTY ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATION IN THE NEXT MONTH. THE JUST QUICKLY THE TOTAL COST OF THAT ELECTION FOR THE 30TH SOLE GOVERNING BODIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IS ABOUT $1.9 MILLION IN THE CITY SHARE OF APPROXIMATELY 10% OF THAT COST.

JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS TO NOTE IN TERMS OF THE NOVEMBER 8TH ELECTION OF THE LAST DAY TO ADD ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS TO THAT BALLOT FOR ANY OF THE GOVERNING BODIES IS AUGUST 22ND THE DEADLINE FOR VOTERS TO REGISTER TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT ELECTION IS OCTOBER 11TH AND THE EARLY VOTING PERIOD IS OCTOBER 24TH THROUGH NOVEMBER 4TH AND THEN JUST MOVING AHEAD INTO 2023.

THAT'S JUST A REMINDER THAT CITY COUNCIL ELECTIONS FOR SPECIFIC COUNCIL SEATS WILL BE UP AT THAT TIME. AND BEFORE I MOVE ON TO ELECTION YEAR, AND I CAN ADD STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ON THE ELECTION OF BALLOT. WE HAVE A QUESTION. YOU SAID THAT IT WAS 1.9 MILLION FOR THE ENTIRE ELECTION FROM THE COUNTY IN THE COUNTY. UH AND THIS END OF THE DIET SEEMS TO RECALL THAT MOST RECENT ELECTION WHERE MR CLOUTIER WAS ELECTED ONTO THE COUNCIL IS A COST US ABOUT 70,000. YOU'RE SAYING THIS ONE IS GOING TO COST US 190,000. YES SIR. IT'S A MUCH BIGGER ELECTION WITH THE LOT MORE VALID ITEMS AND A LOT MORE ENTITIES THAT ARE PARTICIPATING. WELL THAT SHOULD SPLIT THE COST OF WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT YOU STILL HAVE ONE. YOU CAN HAVE 25 THINGS. YOU CAN HAVE TWO THINGS. IT DOESN'T COST ANY MORE TO SO WE'RE PAYING. SO THERE'S SOME ECONOMIES IN TERMS OF WHEN YOU ORDER CERTAIN PRODUCTS SINGULARLY. THERE IS A COST WHEN YOU ORDER THOSE AND BOOKS THINK OF MAYBE A WALMART OR SOMETHING WHERE THEY'RE PERSON KNOWS ITEMS IN A GRANDER SCALE. YOU GET COST SAVINGS THERE. ADDITIONALLY EACH GOVERNING BODY OF IS THEIR COST IS EQUATED TO THE NUMBER OF VIRGINIA VOTERS THAT YOU HAVE. SO YOUR PERCENTAGE IS STILL BROKEN UP. THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY, SO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE 100,000 REGISTERED VOTERS. IT DOESN'T I MEAN, 15,000 MY RIGHT BEARING ON. YES, SIR. SO THE TOTAL CALLS FOR THE COUNTY TO CONDUCT THE SELECTION WOULD BE $1.9 MILLION APPROXIMATELY 30 ENTITIES THAT WILL BE PARTICIPATING, AND IT'S WEIGHTED BASED ON YOUR PERCENTAGE OF VOTERS. SO THE TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTERS 10% OF THOSE ARE ABOUT 10% ARE ALLOCATED TO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. WELL. WE COULD WE COULD, AND THAT WOULD BE THE CONVERSE IF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY RAN ITS SPECIFIC ELECTION INDIVIDUALLY, OUR COSTS WOULD BE GREATER THAN $160,000. IT WOULD BE MORE THAN THAT 10. WELL BECAUSE WE LOSE OUT ON THE ECONOMY OF SCALE BACK DOWN OF THE LIQUOR ELECTION, THERE MIGHT BE A LYNCHING IN MCKINNEY PROBABLY BE SOME LITIGATIONS. I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD BE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. SO MR HOUSING THAT ON LIABILITY GROUNDS. OKAY ALREADY CALLING COUNCILMAN PHILLIPS ABOUT LIQUOR ELECTION BEING CANCELED. I'M SORRY. LOCAL LIQUOR SALES BOARD. AND WE'RE

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SO IN THIS PARTICULAR EXAMPLE, MAYOR PRO TIM WHERE YOU SEE PARKING LOT SPACE OR OTHER DRIVEWAYS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY ARE THAT IS NON CONFORMING. YOU CAN'T PLAY SIGNAGE THERE. THE FIRE MARSHAL ALSO HAS OPPORTUNITY TO DESIGNATE ANYPLACE UNSAFE FOR SIGNAGE OR ANY OTHER TYPES OF ACTIVITIES. BUT IF SOMEBODY HAS IT IN THE BACK OF THEIR TRUCK, BIG GIANT SIGN AND PARKS THERE, IS THAT, OKAY? THEY SHOULD NOT PARK ANYWHERE IN A DRIVEWAY SPACE. SO IF THERE IS JUST LIKE WITH ANY TRAFFIC RULE OF VEHICLE SHOULD NOT BE PARKED, BUT ESPECIALLY IF IT HAS THAT SIGNAGE WITHIN THAT 100 FT RADIUS CAN PARK IN A PARKING SPACE. YES YES. IN THE BACK OF THE TRUCK. YES. AND THEN THERE ARE ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS FOR OTHER TYPES OF STRUCTURE. SO YOU HAVE CANOPIES TABLES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THEY CANNOT BE IN THOSE SPACES SO AGAIN, IF THEY'RE RELEGATED TO A PARKING SPOT IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT BEAST AND IT BECOMES, YOU KNOW MORE OF IS THIS A SAFETY ISSUE VERSUS IS THIS COMPLIANT WITH THE ELECTION NEARING, SO IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IN TERMS OF PARCELING OUT SOME OF THOSE NUANCES THAT YOU KNOW THERE ARE SOME LOOPHOLES OR OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO DO STUFF THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE WITHIN THE SPIRIT OF WHAT THIS RULE IS. BUT WE TRY TO STICK AS FAR AS ELECTION YEAR AND GOES WITH WHAT THESE REGULATIONS ARE. AND THAT'S ALL OF MY PRESENTATION IN TERMS OF ELECTION YEAR AND SO AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, THOSE RULES THAT APPLY TO VOTING LOCATIONS OWNED BY THE CITY. UM, GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT. I KNOW THAT WE

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MCKINNEY GENERALLY REQUEST ONE LOCATION IN EACH DISTRICT. FOR THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS THE SAME FOR NOVEMBER. THEY'RE OTHER ENTITIES CAN REQUEST CITY LOCATIONS. LET'S SAY WE DIDN'T REQUEST A LOT OF SPECIFIC LIBRARY IN COLLEGE OR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT MAY REQUEST ADDITIONAL SPACES. UH, AS FAR AS CHALLENGES THAT WE SEE AS FAR AS WITH THE ELECTIONEERING, AND WE WOULD SAY, JOHN AND JUDY GAY IS PROBABLY THE HAS THE MOST ACTIVITY, BUT AGAIN. WE RESPOND TO THOSE IN A LOT OF TIMES. IT'S KIND OF LIKE, WELL OUT OF SIGHT OUT OF MIND STAFF COME DOWN THE ELECTION JUDGES ADDRESS THIS AND EVERYTHING IS WONDERFUL AND NO ONE'S OUT OF ORDER. AND AS SOON AS YOU LEAVE OR TURN YOUR BACK, THERE'S BICKERING AND THINGS LIKE THAT GOING ON. SO WE TRY TO ADDRESS THAT IT'S BEST WE CAN, AND I WOULD SAY IN TERMS OF THAT SPECIFIC THING. OVER THE COURSE OF AN ELECTION. YOU SEE THAT KIND OF DWINDLED DOWN. SO EVEN THOUGH THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE THOSE THINGS THAT KIND OF POP UP HERE AND THERE, THERE'S NOT A LARGE NUMBER OF THOSE INCIDENCES, BUT IT MIGHT FEEL THAT WAY. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HEAR COMPLAINTS, PROBABLY COMING FROM THE SAME CUSTOMERS OR THE SAME CANDIDATES AND PARTICIPANTS. SOE IN EVERY DISTRICT. WELL WE HAVE A FIRE STATION. I THINK ON VIRGINIA, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT HAS ONE. WE HAVE THIS LOCATION, WHERE IS A SETTLER'S PARK STATION UP ON LAKE FOREST ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND JUNIOR HIGH AND STONE BRIDGE ACROSS FROM A FROM THE LIBRARY AWAY. WE HAVE A FIRE STATION THERE. THE CITY DOESN'T GENERALLY USE THE Y M C. A IT'S ACROSS. IT'S A SCHOOL ACROSS DOWN MIDDLE SCHOOL. THAT WAS WHERE WE DO IT FOR DISTRICT THREE. FIRE STATION STONEBRIDGE FIRE STATION FIVE.

IT'S A FIRE STATION. OKAY AND FIRE STATION NINE UP ON LAKE FOREST KIND OF NORTH OF BAYLOR.

UM SO OLD SETTLERS, THE COUNTY ELECTION HEADQUARTERS, THE FIRE STATION NORTH OF BAYLOR FIRE STATION FIVE IN STONEBRIDGE AND THEN JOHN JUDY GAY DOWNTOWN. YEAH. I MEAN TO ME WHAT I WAS NEVER GUESS WHAT I WAS GETTING, TOO IS THIS SEEMS TO BE WHERE WE CONCENTRATE AND AWFUL LOT OF VOTING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE WHERE I LIVE RIGHT OVER HERE. I'VE GOT THREE SPOTS WITHIN, LIKE A HALF A MILE. BETWEEN THE ELECTION CENTER, A LIBRARY. AND OLD SETTLERS IF THE LIBRARY IS ON IT. AND I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 100 PEOPLE VOTING IN A DAY VERSUS HERE. I'M GUESSING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 500. PEOPLE VOTING FOR THOUSANDS. OH YOU'RE YOU'RE RIGHT. I'VE SEEN THAT LINE. GO ALL THE WAY OUT. I JUST DRIVE OVER THE DOLL AND I WALK IN I VOTE AND I WALK OUT RELYING AT EXACTLY THAT I HAVE A CHOICE, AND I JUST I WONDER IF WE DISTRIBUTED THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN WE COULD REDUCE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE FACING BECAUSE I MEAN, THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS IS WE'RE SUBJECTING LIBRARY CUSTOMERS TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST TAKING THEIR KIDS IN. AND GETTING YELLED AT. I MEAN, SOME OF THE STUFF WE GOT SENT WAS USED WORDS LIKE GAUNTLET AND INTIMIDATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH AREN'T FUN TO THINK THAT KID WALKING INTO THE LIBRARY'S FEELING EITHER, BUT IT'S JUST IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT GEORGE IS SAYING, AND THAT WE CAN CREATE A BUNCH OF RULES WE CAN GET TRIED IN COURT, AND WE

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SO I THINK THAT PEOPLE THINK OF THAT, SO SOME OF THAT IS BUILT IN THAT WE REALLY CAN'T MITIGATE IT BECAUSE OF THAT LOCATION IS VERY DESIRABLE, BUT ABSOLUTELY WE LOOK TO FIND ADDITIONAL VOTING LOCATIONS TO CONVENIENCE PEOPLE AND NOT SUBJECT THE LIBRARY TO ALL OF THAT TRAFFIC.

ABSOLUTELY THE REASON WHY IT IS HIGHLY DESIRABLE IS BECAUSE SCHOOL ISN'T ALWAYS OPEN FOR THE ELECTIONS. SO I THINK IF WE HAVE MORE CONSISTENCY IN THAT, THEN IT WOULD DIVERT PEOPLE AWAY BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I DON'T WANT TO GO OVER THERE TO VOTE GETTING ACCOSTED EVERY TIME YOU WALK UP TO THE DOOR, SO IT'S NOT A PLEASANT EXPERIENCE. I'D RATHER HAVE SOMETHING REALLY CLOSE BY, BUT CONSISTENTLY OPEN SO THAT PEOPLE GET USED TO GOING THERE. UM. I PROMISE, EMPRESS. THERE IS A QUESTION IN HERE. BUT THIS IS A BIT OF A NARRATIVE. UM I'M GRATEFUL THAT THIS IS PUT ON THE AGENDA. I TALKED TO A NUMBER OF PEOPLE. ON DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE AISLE AND THE COMPLAINTS THAT I GOT ABOUT JOHN AND JUDY GAY SPECIFICALLY, WERE THAT THE LINE DID WRAP TO THE POINT WHERE IT WAS WRAPPED TO THE NORTH SIDE, AND IT BROKE THROUGH THE 100 FT BARRIER WHEN IT BREAKS THROUGH THE 100 FT BARRIER. THESE PEOPLE ARE IN LINE AND THEY WERE TO USE THE WORD ACCOSTED, WHICH HAS BEEN HERE BUT CERTAINLY APPROACHED ON YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T WANT TO COOPERATE WITH FOLKS WHO WERE TRYING TO TALK TO HIM. YOU KNOW THE WAY TO MITIGATE THAT IS DON'T GO ON ELECTION DAY AND DON'T GO TO JOHN JUDY GAY RIGHT IS WHAT I WOULD TELL ANYBODY.

BUT TO COUNCILMAN ROGERS POINT THERE LIKE A MOTH TO A FLAME THERE, AND THEY JUST SEEM TO GO THE OTHER ISSUE, THOUGH, AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I AT LEAST HAVE AN APPETITE TO, YOU KNOW, SEE THE CITY ADDRESSES. IN THE ELECTION THAT I WAS IN BACK IN JANUARY. ONE OF THE VOTING LOCATIONS WITH THE COUNTY ELECTION HEADQUARTERS, AND THEY LIMITED US TO FIVE SIGNS. THAT'S IT, THEY SAID. IF YOU PUT MORE DOWN, WE'RE TAKING THEM UP. SO WE ALL PUT DOWN FIVE SIGNS. I THINK IT MAKES FOR A MUCH MORE. YEAH APPROACHABLE AND I REALIZE THIS ISN'T THE BIGGEST DEAL IN THE WORLD OF MUCH MORE APPROACHABLE SITUATION IF THE NUMBER OF SIGNS ARE LIMITED, BUT EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE COMPETING TO PUT AS MANY SIGNS OUT. THEY CAN'T JOHN JUDY GAIN. IT LOOKS TRASHY. IT LOOKS AWFUL, SO I WOULD HAVE AN APPETITE TO HAVE THE CITY LIMITED TO FIVE SIGNS WITH FULL RESPECT TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT. I AGAIN I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR PRO TEM THAT? HEY JUST ISSUED A CITATION IF THEY'RE THERE, BUT UM, MAYBE AT LEAST TRY IT FOR THE ELECTION OR TWO TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE COUNTY'S RULE. IS THAT THE ELECTION HEADQUARTERS AND I GUESS MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS IT YOUR RECOLLECTION AS WELL? THAT THAT WAS THE COUNTY'S RULE OF THE ELECTION HEADQUARTERS. OR IS THAT JUST MINE? I DON'T RECALL THE COUNTY HAVING A LIMIT.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ABSOLUTELY VERIFY. THEY MAKE THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE SO I CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU IN. ADDITIONALLY WE JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT WITHIN OUR ORDINANCE, THE PURPOSE OF THE ELECTION AIR AND IT'S 21 PROVIDES SAFE SPACES FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO VOTE.

IT ALSO MAINTAIN SAFETY FOR THE OTHER PATIENTS OF THOSE FACILITIES. SO THERE IS THAT NOTE IN THERE THAT ALLOWS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO STEP IN AND DESIGNATE ADDITIONAL SPACE EVEN IF IT'S BEYOND THAT 100 FT. MARK SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW THAT LINE IS GOING A LITTLE BIT EXTRA. MAYBE WE WORK WITH THOSE STAFF TO SAY, HEY, THAT LINE OVER OVERFLOWS. THIS IS OFF LIMIT AS WELL. MY ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCES. THIS IS AN ELECTION DAY PROBLEM, NOT AN EARLY ELECTION PROBLEM WITH THAT 100 FT LINES SO TO THE EXTENT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE A PRESENCE THERE DURING THE PEAK HOURS ON ELECTION DAY, I THINK THAT COULD BE HAVE SOME MERIT TO IT. OKAY? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND I'M GOING TO HAND OVER TO CARRY SAMPSON. THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU. AND, UM THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL AND I'VE GOT ONE SLIDE TONIGHT. BASICALLY WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT POLITICAL SCIENCE. AND I DO APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION. UM COMPLIANCE REALLY DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HOW SENSITIVE HOW IMPORTANT ELECTIONS ARE, BUT IT DOES BECOME SOMEWHAT OF A CHALLENGE FOR THE TEAM. UM YOU KNOW, EVEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT

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AS WE TALKED ABOUT THE SECTION ONE THREE FOUR DASH FORESEE, ACTUALLY ALLOWS US TO DISPOSE OF ALL SIGNS WITH NO NOTICE, BUT WE ARE VERY SENSITIVE TO THE ISSUES. SO WE HAVE BEEN GIVING 24 HOUR NOTICE IS FOR PEOPLE TO REMOVE THE SIGNS. WE HAVE BEEN IMPOUNDING SIGNS AND HOLDING THEM FOR FIVE DAYS AS A COURTESY. THIS LOST ELECTION. WE HAD 525 SIGNS IT BECOMES VERY TIME INTENSIVE AND STORAGE PROHIBITIVE. SO WE WERE WONDERING WHAT THE COUNCIL'S APPETITE WAS FOR US TO GIVE A 48 HOUR NOTICE EITHER VIA EMAIL OR A PHONE CALL. AND THEN DISCARD THE SIGNS IF THE SIGNS ARE NOT EITHER PICKED UP AND MOVED. IS THAT EVEN NECESSARY? OR JUST JUST IT ISN'T METH. FULLER WHY IS THAT? OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS THAT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IS NOT IT'S SORT OF A PROCESS I'VE INHERITED AND I WANTED TO SEE WHAT THE APPETITE OF THE COUNCIL WAS BECAUSE JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF SORT OF SIZE THIS LAW SINCE JANUARY, ALL SIGNS INCLUDING ELECTION SIGNS WE'VE IMPOUNDED OVER 1200 SIGNS IS VERY LABOR INTENSIVE. UM AWAY.

JUST A LITTLE BIT THROWN AWAY UP, THROWING NO NOTICE? NO NOTHING IF THEY'RE PUTTING THE RIGHT AWAY ILLEGALLY JUST DISCARDING. ALRIGHT WELL, ANYONE ANYONE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.

I MEAN, WHY WHY ARE WE PUTTING WAITING ON THIS FOR A SECOND? BECAUSE I'VE GOT SCARS TO BEAR FROM DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES THAT I'VE WORKED IN. THERE ARE DISPUTES ABOUT WHICH SIGNS ARE IMPOUNDED OR COLLECTED. SOMEBODY'S GOING TO CALL UP AND SAY THAT'S NOT CORRECT. MY SIGN WAS SURELY IN PRIVATE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. NOT IN RIGHT AWAY, AND WE DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD YOU GRABBED THE WRONG SIGNS YOUR STAFF TOOK THE WRONG SIGNS. AND AS AT A AT A YOU KNOW, AND THEN IT BECOMES A DISPUTE BETWEEN OUR STAFF AND THE FOLKS FROM THE DIFFERENT CAMPAIGNS AND THEY WILL CALL AND THEY WILL ACCUSE US OF BEING BIASED AND TAKING SIDES AND WHATEVER. SO WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO IS WE GRAB THE SIGNS. WE SAY LISTEN, YOU GOT TWO DAYS, FIVE DAYS. WHATEVER.

COME GET YOUR SIGNS. AND IT IS A BIT OF WHACK A MOLE AND THERE'S A LOT OF THAT THAT GOES ON. BUT IT'S NOT SO SIMPLE. UM I WISH IT WERE, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT THAT SIMPLE AS US JUST SEEING A SIGN PULLING IT UP AND THROWING IT AWAY AND THROWING IT IN THE DUMPSTER. SOMEBODY WILL ACCUSE US GUARANTEED MARK MY WORD. THEY WILL GUARANTEE THEY WILL ACCUSE US OF UM, TAKING SIDES BEING HEAVY HANDED. IN IMPEDING THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY, SO WE'RE OKAY WITH IT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL IS VERY AWARE THAT ANYWAY, WE WILL DO THAT ANYWAY. AND JUST SAY WELL, WHEN YOU GIVE A COURTESY CALL IT DOES AND IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. BUT WHEN YOU GIVE A COURTESY CALL NUMBER ONE IT DOES. IT TENDS TO DIFFUSE THE SITUATION AND IT ALSO GIVES THEM THEY IT'S A LOT HARDER. TO ACCUSE THE CITY OF BEING, YOU KNOW, JERKS OR BIASED OR WHATEVER. IF YOU'VE TAKEN THE TIME TO SAY YOU KNOW WHAT WE GOT THE SIGN. IT'S IN THE WRONG PLACE. USUALLY THEY TAKE PICTURES OF IT AND WHATEVER, AND THEY CAN SHOW THEM. WHY DON'T YOU COME GET IT THAT THAT GOES A LONG WAY. IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO BE BLACK AND WHITE ABOUT IT, WE CAN. I'M JUST I'M JUST FOR WARNING YOU THAT THAT OFTENTIMES WILL BE SAID THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN ON THIS SO JUST CONSIDER THAT INFORMATION AND DATA POINT. THAT'S ALL NEARLY BE AS MUCH TIME AS WHAT IT TAKES TO COLLECT 1200 SIGNS MAKE 1200 CALLS AND HAD 1200 INTERACTIONS AND 1200 TIMES THAT SOMEONE COMES OUT TO TRY TO MEET YOU TO PICK UP A SIGN. DON'T MAKE 1200 CALLS USUALLY COLLECT 20 SIGNS FOR ONE CANDIDATE. SO YOU MAKE ONE CALL FOR THOSE 20 SIGNS THAT YOU COLLECTED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT USUALLY WHEN WE SEE THE SIGNS IMPROPERLY PLACED WILL CALL THEM AND SAY, HEY, LISTEN, YOU'RE SIGNS IN THE WRONG PLACE ALONG THIS STREET. THIS STREET THIS STREET. YOU NEED TO GO TAKE CARE OF THAT. OTHERWISE WE'RE GONNA END UP COLLECTING THEM AND YOU MAKE THAT CALL AND THEY'RE STILL THERE. THEN YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO THROW IT AWAY, AGREED. IF WE MY CAMPAIGN GOT THAT CALL IN DECEMBER ARE OUR SCIENCE RULE BUT TOO CLOSE TO THE CURB, AND THEY NEED TO BE MOVED AWAY FROM THE CURB A FEW FEET AND WE DID

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SO I APPRECIATE THE CALL. I DIDN'T WANT TO BE OUT OF COMPLIANCE, AND WE DID RECTIFY IT, AND I THINK THAT MANY CANDIDATES MIGHT LOOK AT IT. IN A SIMILAR WAY, BUT I THINK THAT PHONE CALL AND GIVING THE 25 OR NOTICE IS FINE AND THEN WHAT WE FEEL THAT THAT IS DOABLE. WE APPRECIATE THAT. THE OTHER THING I JUST WANT TO SAY FOR FOLKS THAT MIGHT BE WATCHING THIS IS YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK ELECTIONS LINES SHOULD BE AN IMMEDIATE HAS HAVE IMMEDIATE RESOLUTION AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST WE'D LIKE TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF HEALTH AND SAFETY VIOLATIONS SO WE MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE OTHER THINGS . WE DO OUR A DAY AND WE'LL DEFINITELY GET PRIORITIES. 48 HOURS GIVEN THE 48 HOURS NOTICE WOULD WOULD BE VERY DOABLE, MUCH DOABLE THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. AND I THINK THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE YARD SIGN. AND IN THE LARGE SIGN . I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY STICK THOSE YARD SIGNS ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE THEY'LL STICK THEM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKWAY, AND I MEAN THEY'LL THEY'LL PUT THOSE ANYWHERE AND SO TO ME, YOU JUST I MEAN, IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE LEGITIMATELY IN YOU TAKE A PICTURE OF IT AND THEN TOSS IT. IT'S THE LARGE SIGNS. I THINK MOST PEOPLE HAVE MORE OF AN ISSUE BECAUSE, AS PATRICK SAID, SOMETIMES YOU PUT HIM A LITTLE BIT TOO CLOSE. AND YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT WASN'T TRYING. AND SO THOSE ARE THE YARD SIGNS TO ME. YOU PICK THOSE UP AND YOU TOSS. THOSE ARE SITUATION WAS SOME YARD SIGNS THAT WERE OVER THERE AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF VIRGINIA AND 75, WHERE THE WIFE SONG HOSPITAL USED TO BE, AND THEY WERE JUST TOO CLOSE TO THE CURB, SO THEY HAD TO BE MOVED INTO THE LAND A LITTLE BIT AND AGAIN, IT WAS DONE. AND I WOULDN'T HAVE BEGRUDGED THE CITY FOR A MOMENT HAD THEY PICKED HIM UP AND DONE THAT. I WOULD HAVE FELT HORRIBLE IF THAT SORT OF CAME TO, BUT IT WAS AN HONEST MISTAKE, AND WE CORRECTED IT.

BUT YOU KNOW IT, BUT THEY SCIENTISTS MEAN THAT MUCH TO ME. I JUST WANTED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE AND WE WERE OUT BY A COUPLE OF FEET. SO WELL, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AND THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO KIND OF SORT OF SET. THE RECORD STRAIGHT IS A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT WHEN THERE'S A VACANT PROPERTY OR ON PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT WE SHOULD BE VERIFYING THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AND WE JUST WE DON'T DO THAT. THAT'S A THAT'S A CIVIL ISSUE BETWEEN THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER CANDIDATE. YES.

SO WE'RE CONSENSUS HERE. 48 HOURS NOTICING YOU TOSS THE SCIENCE AND SMALL SCIENCE. JUST GET RID OF THEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATED THAT WORK FOR YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM 2 TO

[Presentation on McKinney Broadband Initiative and Request for Proposal Results]

HOWEVER, UM. YOU'LL REMEMBER BACK TO OUR BROADBAND ASSESSMENT. WE DID SOME IN DEPTH , UM, SURVEY AND TESTING DATA WITH ALL SORTS OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY UP TO I B00. RESPONDES WERE NOWHERE NEAR SOME OF THOSE HIGH LEVELS THAT THE FCC HAD REPORTED FROM VARIOUS PROVIDERS THAT PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY AND INTERNET SERVICES HERE IN MCKINNEY, THAT'S WHAT LED US DOWN THIS PATH AND WHAT LED US TO WHAT WE WERE HOPING YOU CONSIDER TODAY DURING THE REGULAR MEETING. FURTHERMORE WE FOUND OUT, UH, THROUGH CONNECTED NATIONS, WHICH IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT KIND OF RANKS WHERE COMMUNITY STAND IN RELATION TO CONNECTIVITY. WE WERE 93RD IN THE STATE. I DON'T THINK MAYBE MCKINNEY HAS BEEN 93RD IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND MANY THINGS SINCE MY TIME HERE, SO THAT WAS A SHOCKER TO US. AND THAT SECOND BULLET THAT YOU SEE WE HAD ROUGHLY 30 35% COVERAGE OF PHYSICAL FIBER IN THE GROUND THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WHICH HAS ANCILLARY IMPACTS TO A LOT OF OTHER TECHNOLOGIES BEING USEFUL OR DEPLOYED OUT INTO THE CITY LIMITS. FINALLY THE CITY'S RESIDENTS TOLD US PRETTY OVERWHELMINGLY THAT BOTTOM RIGHT BAR CHART THAT THEY DO FEEL THIS IS SOMETHING THE CITY SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN AND EXPANDING THAT BROADBAND ACCESS AND AGAIN THAT'S FROM 1200, PLUS RESIDENTS AND A STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY . SO THAT'S WHERE WE GOT THAT INFORMATION. WE REPORTED BACK ON THAT IN, UM FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR. THE BROADBAND ASSESSMENT REPORTS ATTACHED TO BELIEVE THIS ITEM. IF NOT THIS ITEM. IT'S ON

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TO REPORT ON RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN ALSO TELL YOU HOW WE GOT TO OUR RFP RECOMMENDATION SO. BACK IN FEBRUARY. THESE WERE THE FOUR ITEMS THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR THIRD PARTY PROVIDER HR GREEN, THAT WE WANTED TO WORK ON . THE COUNCIL ADOPTED THESE ITEMS, AND THEN YOU SET US FORTH TO GO THROUGH A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL PROCESS TO BRING US TO THE ACTION THAT'S GOING TO BE CONSIDERED THIS EVENING. SO THOSE FOUR THINGS WERE COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE BASE. THAT'S A FANCY WAY OF SAYING, SAYING ALL PREMISES HAVE ACCESS TO FIBER TO THE PREMISES LEVEL. TECHNOLOGY WE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON SOME INPUT FROM SOME PRIVATE PROVIDERS TO THAT DEFINITION, BUT ULTIMATELY THAT GIG UP GIG DOWN TYPE SPEED THAT YOU EXPERIENCE IN THE HIGH CONNECTIVITY ENVIRONMENT. SECOND WAS THE CONNECTION OF 60 DIFFERENT CURRENT AND FUTURE FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THOSE ARE PUBLIC OR PUBLIC ADJACENT FACILITIES THAT HAD, UM , AN IMPACT ON OUR CONNECTIVITY AND OUR GRID. OUR INTERNET GRIT IF YOU WILL THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY. THIRD WAS A WHAT I CALL A KIND OF A SANDBOX PROJECT ALONG COLUMN. MCKINNEY PARKWAY WITH THE MCKINNEY ECONOMIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION , SO THAT WHEN THESE FIRMS COME TO US THAT HAVE GREAT IDEAS FOR APPLICATIONS. WE HAVE SOMEWHERE TO PILOT. THOSE APPLICATIONS. UH COLLIN MCKINNEY OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS IS GOING TO BE REDEVELOPED. THIS WAS GOING TO BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH SOME OF THOSE ACTIVITIES AND THEN FINALLY TO ADDRESS SOME ADOPTION ISSUES THAT WE SAW NOT ONLY IN RELATION TO PRICE BUT JUST IN RELATION TO UNDERSTAND. LANDING.

SOME FOLKS DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY COULD HAVE ACCESS TO HIGHER SPEEDS. THEY HAD JUST BEEN ACCEPTING THAT YOU KNOW, MY THREE MEGABYTE PLAN THAT I BOUGHT IN 2003 WAS SUFFICIENT.

THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY NETFLIX DOESN'T LOAD. SO THOSE WERE THE FOUR ITEMS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS. THAT'S WHAT THE BULK OF THE RFP WAS BASED OFF OF TO GET US TO A POSITION OF INTERVIEWING. AND GOING THROUGH WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT RESPONDENTS. SO OUR TIMELINE WE ISSUED THE RFP IN MARCH. WE HAD A COUPLE OF MONTHS WHERE EVERYBODY WAS ALLOWED TO REVIEW EVERYTHING. CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE GOING TO SUBMIT A PROPOSAL AND ULTIMATELY, WE ENDED UP HOLDING A PRE SEMINAL MEETING WHERE WE HAD, I BELIEVE SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 30 FOLKS, WHICH IN THE PURCHASING WORLD THAT'S QUITE A BIT CITY HALL HAD ABOUT 60. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S A CITY HALL. THIS IS KIND OF A STANDARD RUN OF THE MILL RFP, BUT WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF RESPONDENT FROM THE PROVIDER COMMUNITY IN THE PROVIDER ADJACENT COMMUNITY KIND OF SEEING WHAT WE'RE UP TO THAT WENT OUT TO OVER RIGHT AT 400. RESPONDENTS THEN 11 FOLKS SUBMITTED. I BELIEVE WE ACTUALLY HAD 12, BUT ONE WASN'T QUALIFIED BASED ON THEIR SUBMITTAL, AND THEN WE ENDED UP INTERVIEWING THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN THE MONTH OF JUNE. PAUSE HERE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE FOLKS THAT WE'RE ON OUR COMMITTEE. WE HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, THE IT DEPARTMENT. THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT MYSELF AND THEN MIKE DEPAULA AND MCKINNEY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION HELPED US OUT AS WELL. ALSO PURCHASING HAS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB WITH A VERY UNIQUE OR FP THROUGHOUT THIS LAST SIX MONTHS, 6 TO 9 MONTHS. SO YOU'LL SEE. THERE ARE THREE TOP RESPONDENTS WERE A T AND T NEXTERA, WHICH IS A SUBSIDIARY OF A COMPANY MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH CALLED FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT AND THEN SCI FI NETWORKS. THEY CREATED THEIR OWN LLC FOR THIS RESPONSE, WHICH WAS MCKINNEY LLC. THERE, AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S OUT OF, UM WHY IS IT ESCAPING ME? DELAWARE. HOW IT ALL SHOOK OUT. ACROSS ALL FOUR OF THE RECOMMENDATION COMPONENTS PART A PARTNER. EXCUSE ME A PART ONE, WHICH WAS COMMUNITY BROADBAND, BE PART TWO CITY FACILITIES, SEE PART THREE CITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S THAT SANDBOX CORRIDOR. AND THEN DEPART FOR BROADBAND ADOPTION. SCI FI ROSE TO THE TOP. IN ADDITION, THEY SCORED HIGHEST IN THE INTERVIEWS THAT WE DID WITH THE TOP THREE FIRMS, SO THIS EVENING. OUR NEXT STEPS ARE A RECOMMENDATION FOR ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION THAT ALLOWS US TO ENTER INTO EXCLUSIVE NEGOTIATIONS WITH SCI FI FOR A PERIOD OF 120 DAYS TO DO REALLY A GOOD, HEALTHY DUE DILIGENCE, PERIOD. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE THE CONCEPT OF FIBER TO THE PREMISES. I E. PASSING EVERY PREMISES IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY IS GARGANTUAN. IT'S A IT'S A VERY LARGE LIFT, SO WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A HEALTHY DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD TO ASK POINTED QUESTIONS TO VISIT SOME OTHER SITES WHERE DEPLOYMENTS HAVE HAPPENED, AND TO GET TO A POINT OF COMFORT ABILITY WITH, UM, THAT RESPONDENT SHOULD A GENERAL AGREEMENT BE ACHIEVED WILL BRING

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BUT THAT'S I'M NOT THE DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING. THAT'S NOT THE CASE AND EVERYTHING, BUT BUT LET'S SAY THIS HAPPENS WITH THIS SO FAR OR WHATEVER THAT IS, OR SCI FI FORGETTING SCI FI, WOULD THEY IF THEY CAME TO MY HOUSE IN A T AND T FIBERS ALREADY THERE WOULD THEY THEN HAVE A RETAIL AGREEMENT WOULD BE THAT WOULD COMPETE WITH AT AND T MORE THAN LIKELY? YES OKAY, SO FOR SOME OF THE PLACES THAT DON'T HAVE FIBER WE WOULD BE DRIVING THAT OUT THERE TO THEM. THEY WOULD HAVE AT LEAST THIS FIBER AND THEN, PERHAPS AT OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE CITY, THERE BE COMPETING FIBER AVAILABLE AT THE HOUSE. OKAY, AND THE OTHER ASPECT ABOUT THE PROPOSAL THAT SCI FI PUT FORWARD AGAIN GOING BACK TO THIS OPEN ACCESS WORD THAT I'VE BEEN USING. IS IT OPERATES MUCH LIKE ENERGY PROVIDERS, SO ON CORE OR CLOSER FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE IN CO OPS, AND YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE IN A CO OPS DON'T APPLY TO YOU. BUT ENCORE, PRIVATE ENERGY, UM, DISTRIBUTOR THAN PARTNERS WITH RETAIL PROVIDERS AND THOSE RETAIL PROVIDERS SELL THE ENERGY TO THE END USER. RIGHT EXAMPLE.

IN MY HOUSE. I HAVE ENCORE ELECTRICITY, BUT I PAY DIRECT ENERGY DIRECT ENERGY BECAUSE THEY'RE THE BRAND THAT JUMPED OFF THE PAGE AT ME. BUT THIS DEPLOYMENT IS THIS VERY SIMILAR TYPE OF DEPLOYMENT. SCI FI WOULD BE DEVELOPING THE INFRASTRUCTURE , AND THEN THEY WOULD ENTER INTO

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WHATEVER HAVE YOU, UM, THAT'S WHERE THEY WOULD DEPLOY. AND THEN ONCE A CUSTOMER SAYS, OH, THAT NEW PRODUCT SOUNDS GREAT OR MY CURRENT PRODUCT ISN'T MEETING MY NEEDS. I WANT TO SWITCH OVER.

THAT'S WHEN THEY WOULD ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE THIRD PARTY PROVIDED THAT WHAT I'M WHAT I'M TELLING WHAT I DON'T WANT IS WE'RE TRYING TO DO THIS, AND THERE'S THREE PEOPLE IN THAT STREET THAT SAYS WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT AWAY. WE YOU KNOW, OUR OLD HOUSE IS OLD ENOUGH TO WAIT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE RIGHT AWAY. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUY IT FROM HIM. AND NOW THE COST GOES UP. IT'S A GOOD POINT AND WILL CONSIDER THAT. I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND ASK FOR TRANCHES AND TRANCHES OF MONEY TO DO EXACTLY BECAUSE I'M ANXIOUS TO. TO FURTHER UNDERSCORE THAT POINT, A BIG LIFT OF SPECIFICALLY THE TOP TWO RESPONDENTS WAS THAT THERE WAS ENOUGH OF A MARKET INCENTIVE FOR THOSE TWO ORGANIZATIONS, SCI FI AND NEXTERA, WHO GOT SECOND THAT THEY WERE NOT ASKING THE CITY TO PUT IN ANY FUNDING FOR THESE DEPLOYMENTS, WHICH TELLS ME THEY HAVE CONTEMPLATED THOSE TYPES OF QUESTIONS AND THEY'RE PREPARED.

YOU KNOW, TO BREAKTHROUGH WHERE MAYBE A GAP IN EASTMAN IS IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT SOMEBODY'S NOT GOING TO COME ASK US OR THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ASK THE CITY WITH THEIR HAND OUT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT, UM, ARE INTENT WHEN WE WERE HAVING PRE SUBMITTAL MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE REVIEW PROCESS, AND THEN INTO THE INTERVIEWS WAS YOU KNOW, GIVE US SOME CREATIVE FINANCING SOLUTIONS BECAUSE THESE ARE HUGE , COSTLY PRIVATE PROJECTS, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PRIORITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO UM HMM. UM REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I'M GONNA ASK A QUESTION THAT MAYBE IT MIGHT TOPPLE THE QUESTION FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE TV. PEOPLE ALL RE ANSWER IT, DEPENDING ON HE NODS, BUT THE A T AND T FIBER THAT CAME INTO MY HOUSE WITH SCI FI IS DOING IS THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO INTERFERE WITH THAT. THAT'S A T AND T S PROPERTY IN HIS HEAD THERE SAYING YES, SO THEY WOULD PUT IN SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE IN MY BUSINESS THEY? THERE'S FIBER. THEIR DOWNTOWN IN A COMPANY CALLED SPARK LIGHT PROVIDES TO ME, BUT I KNOW IT'S NOT THEIR FIBER. THEY'RE KIND OF BUYING INTO THE EXISTING FIBERS, SO THEY HAPPEN TO MAKE ME THE BEST DEAL THERE. SO IT DOES THAT RESONATE WITH YOU, MIKE. OKAY. HE'S SAYING YES. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, TREVOR. UM AS AS WAY OF KEEPING THE COUNCIL INFORMED CITIZENRY INFORMED THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS WILL BE PUTTING IN, UM, PROGRESSIVE. UPDATES DURING THE MANAGERS NOTES, PROBABLY PRIMARILY AS WE HAVE SOME MORE, UM DATA TO SHARE AS IS APPROPRIATE. WE MAY DO FURTHER WORK SESSIONS EVEN BEFORE WE GET TO AN AGREEMENT PERIOD IF APPROPRIATE, BUT ALL THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, THE INTENT IS TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY ENGAGED. SHOULD THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE RESOLUTION THIS EVENING? WE HAVE A F A Q DOCUMENT READY TO ROLL SO THAT WILL GO LIVE ON THE WEBSITE. IF THE APPROVALS GIVEN THIS EVENING, SO WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR LEVEL BEST TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE INFORMED. OF WHAT THIS IS, AND THEN ALSO WHAT IT'S NOT. NO. I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN APPLES TO APPLES

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[Discuss City Council Preferencing for 2022 Boards & Commissions Appointments]

IT'S JUST A VERY QUICK UPDATE AND A REMINDER OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS EMPLOYMENT PROCESS. IF YOU'RE REMEMBER BACK IN FEBRUARY, WE HAD A PRETTY ROBUST DISCUSSION IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE GUIDELINES THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO EMPLOY EMPLOYED DURING THE APPOINTMENTS PROCESS IN TERMS OF THE INCREASING NUMBER OF FOLKS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THE BOARDS WHERE THERE'S TRADITIONALLY GONE UP FROM ABOUT 50 OR 60 PEOPLE A YEAR TO OVER 2000 AND SPEAKING OF 2200 IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH POLICY IN TERMS OF APPOINTING PEOPLE WHO REFLECT THE DIVERSITY OF THE COMMUNE. CITY AND OUR RESPECTS. MAY MARCH, 1ST. WE BROUGHT FORTH THE POLICY AMENDMENT THAT REFLECTED THAT INPUT FROM YOU AND APPROVED ON THAT DAY OR THE FOCUS ON TERM LIMITS, ESTABLISHING SOME BOARDS TO HAVE A TERM LIMIT OF TWO CONSECUTIVE TERMS VERSUS OTHERS AT HALF THREE FOR PURPOSES OF MAINTAINING CERTAIN CONTINUITY ON SOME OF THOSE BOARDS, WORDS MOST RELEVANT. IN JULY AND AUGUST, YOU CONDUCTED INTERVIEWS FOR APPROXIMATELY 70 TO 80 CANDIDATES WHO SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS. THERE WERE FIVE SESSIONS. THEY WERE ALL TELEVISED VIBE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR A VOLUNTEER. MCKINNEY ANOTHER NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS TO ENGAGE IN THERE TO SHARE IN THE WEALTH OF APPLICANTS AND INTERESTED COMMUNITY PARTICIPANTS THAT ARE OUT THERE. AH TODAY WE WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT REFERENCING NOMINATIONS. YOUR POLICY FOR THE ELIGIBILITY ALLOWS FOR THE COUNCIL TO SUBMIT NOMINATIONS SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE A BETTER FEEL FOR THE POOL OF APPLICANTS AND YOUR CONSIDERATIONS. AS YOU MAKE THOSE APPOINTMENTS TO KIND OF ANTICIPATE AND THINK ABOUT HOW YOUR APPOINTMENTS MIGHT IMPACT THE BOARD COMPOSITION. IN THE PAST, WE HAVE HAD EVENTS WHERE MAYBE SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. IN TERMS OF SOME FOLKS BEING DISPLACED FROM BOARDS THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE INTENDED TO DISPLACE. WE DID BRING THOSE BACK TO YOU FOR CORRECTIVE ACTION. AND YOU, YOU MAKE THOSE APPOINTMENTS AS NEEDED. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

TODAY WE HAVE RECEIVED YOUR MIDDLES AND OUR STAFF ARE COMPILING THOSE TO PROVIDE THOSE BACK TO YOU TO GIVE YOU SEVERAL MORE DAYS BEFORE WE MEET NEXT TUESDAY ON THE 23RD FOR YOU TO MAKE THOSE APPOINTMENTS. I HAVE A QUESTION IF I MAY UH, SINCE WE'RE ALL SUBMITTING OUR NOMINATIONS EARLY, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT ONCE YOUR STAFF GETS THROUGH SORTING THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT WHAT YOU WOULD COME BACK TO US SINCE A WELL, WE DON'T NEED TO APPOINT ANYBODY ON ORANGE COMMISSION BECAUSE FIVE OF SEVEN OF YOU NOMINATED THE SAME PERSON SO THAT PERSON IS ESTABLISHED AS A NEW MEMBER. WELL TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICY. AND WITH THE ORDINANCES OF THE CITY. THOSE APPOINTMENTS ARE MADE BY YOUR ACTION, SO THAT WOULD. I GUESS WE CERTAINLY WILL . SO WE WOULDN'T WANT TO MAKE THAT ASSUMPTION FOR YOU, RIGHT? I WISH WE COULD. BUT SINCE THESE PREFERENCE THINGS AREN'T ACTUALLY VOTING EVENTS AND SELECTIONS BY THE BODY, THEY'RE ACTUALLY SHOWING THE PREFERENCE. OBVIOUSLY IT'S FAIRLY CLEAR WHEN YOU GET ONE. AS YOU SAY, IT WILL BE FAIRLY PERFUNCTORY THAT NIGHT . AND WILL WE GET THAT INFORMATION? I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT TOMORROW TODAY LATER TODAY. I'M NOT TRYING TO RUSH IN. I WANT TO PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I WAS PROBABLY THE LAST ONE TO GIVE YOU THIS STUFF. EMPERORS AND I MY APOLOGIES FOR BEING LATE ON THAT. BUT WHEN WE GET THE INFORMATION WILL WE SAY EDDIE BETTER WAS NOMINATED FOR THE ARTS BOARD BY SEVEN AND SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND SO THAT WE KNOW THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE JUST RATIFYING ALL OF OUR NOMINATIONS RATHER THAN GOING BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN CUT DOWN THE LENGTH OF TIME WE'RE HERE. WHAT I'M LOOKING. THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND I KNOW THAT'S A VERY DIFFICULT AND TEDIOUS PROCESS. THANK YOUR ENTIRE OFFICE FOR THE WORK THEY DO FOR US. THANK YOU.

IT IS A FUN NIGHT ABSOLUTELY COUNTER. AND JUST A COUPLE OF NOTES OF IMPORTANT NUMBERS. AS FAR AS THE APPLICANTS THERE WERE OVER 120 APPLICANTS. MAJORITY OF THOSE FOLKS PARTICIPATED IN

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WITH A NEW MEMBER WHO WOULD SERVE AS AN ALTERNATE DURING THE AND I KNOW THAT SEVERAL OF THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WE HAVE SITTING MEMBERS MOVING OFF WITH THE ALTERNATES WHO ARE STILL ELIGIBLE, AND WOULD IT BE THE COUNCIL REFERENCE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT ALTERNATE INTO A SITTING POSITION AND THEN ELECT ADDITIONAL ALTERNATES ON EACH OF THESE BOARDS WHERE THERE IS AN ALTERNATE AVAILABLE? MY EYE FOR ME. I WOULD, UM ALTHOUGH I THINK FOR ME ALWAYS HOPEFULLY THAT WILL WILL BE THE CASE. BUT THERE I KNOW FOR 11 POSITION. UM COMING UP. THAT THERE IS A APPLICANT THAT HAS BECOME AVAILABLE AND WANTS TO WOULD LIKE TO BE APPOINTED THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY IT DIFFERENTLY THAN JUST REALLY ECLIPSES THE SKILL SET OF THE ALTERNATE AND SO ME, I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE BOUND THAT NO, THAT THAT A GIVEN THAT IF YOU'RE AN ALTERNATE, YOU'RE GONNA BE MOVED UP. I THINK THAT FOR ME ANYWAY. IT WILL BE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COMES ALONG THAT IS REALLY, REALLY QUALIFY. THAT IS QUITE AN ASSET. I'M GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT PERSON, POTENTIALLY OVER A OVER A. FORTUNATE WELL AND THEN SOMETIMES THE ALTERNATE LIKES BEING THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE SCHEDULED ISN'T ALWAYS HE OR SHE CAN'T COMMIT. AND SO THAT'S I KNOW WE HAVE THAT ON 11 BOARD THAT HE LIKES BEING THE ALTERNATE BECAUSE HE CAN'T COMMIT TO EVERY MEETING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU BOTH. ALRIGHTY THANK YOU. STATE IT WILL PROVIDE THOSE RESULTS TO YOU TODAY. THANKS SO MUCH, ALL RIGHT. I DON'T HAVE ANYONE'S SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, NOR DO WE HAVE CLOSING COMMENTS. I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE. IS THERE

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THESE ARE LIKE TAP WATER. JUST LIKE TURNING ON YOUR HOSE. IT GOES INTO GOES DOWN THE DRAIN RECIRCULATING WATER LIKE IS IN YOUR SWIMMING POOL HAS TO BE TREATED WITH CHEMICALS, AND THE PROBLEM WAS IN ARLINGTON. THEY DIDN'T TREAT THE THING WITH CHEMICALS IN THE IN THE WAY THEY SHOULD HAVE. AND BUT IN MCKINNEY SPLASH PADS, THESE ARE NOT RECIRCULATING WATER. THERE ARE NO AMOEBAS IN THIS. THIS IS THE CITY TAP WATER THAT'S SAFE, SO WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE TO PUT OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS IN THE SPLASH PADS HERE IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR. WE'RE

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