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GOOD EVENING. WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER TODAY IS TUESDAY, AUGUST 16TH IN THE YEAR 2022 WERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 2 22 NORTH TENNESSEE STREET IN THE GREAT CITY OF MCKINNEY. IT IS 609 IN THE EVENING. AND WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH AN INDICATION GIVEN BY PASTOR LEWIS ROSENTHAL MCKINNEY FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. THAT IS SPOW.
MOST GRACIOUS AND HEAVENLY FATHER. HUMBLE ADORATION OF YOUR NAME. WE COME THE START OF THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING. WE COME WITH THANKSGIVING BECAUSE YOU ARE COMPASSIONATE. SLOW TO ANGER. AND YOU ARE BOUND IN LOVE. LORD, MAY YOU BLESS THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. YOU PUT YOUR ARMS AROUND OUR MAYOR. CITY MANAGER AND EVERY MEMBER OF OUR CITY. COUNCIL. MAY THEY ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT GOVERNMENT IS A DIVINE INSTITUTION WHICH YOU WERE STABBED LIST. AND THAT EACH ONE WILL HAVE THE GIVEN ACCOUNT TO YOU FOR WHAT THEY DID DURING THE TIME THAT THEY SERVED. MAY EVERY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AS THEY DISCUSS AND DEBATE THE ISSUES THE NEEDS AND THE CONCERNS OF ALL OF THE CITIZENS AND COMMUNITIES THAT REPRESENT MCKINNEY, MAY THEY LOOK OUT FOR THE WELL BEING OF ALL I PRAYED THAT WHEN VOTES ARE CAST. WHEN IT'S TIME TO ALLOCATE FUNDING.
THAT IT WILL BE EQUITABLY DONE INTO ALL AREAS OF THIS CITY. MAY HE BLESS THEIR FAMILIES. MAYBE YOU STRENGTHEN AND ENCOURAGE THEM EACH AND EVERY DAY. MAY EACH ONE CONDUCT THEMSELVES THIS NIGHT WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT. MADE HIS MEETING BE CONDUCTED DECENTLY AND IN ORDER. LORD WE JUST THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY AND WE BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE GREATER THINGS. ON THE WAY FOR THIS CITY. WE THANK YOU. AND WE PRAISE YOU AND BELIEVE BY FAITH.
THAT THIS CITY IS A CITY IN WHICH YOU YOUR NAME WILL BE HONORED. AMEN. UNITED STATES AMERICA. PUBLIC FROM WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD. INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS. I BELIEVE WE HAVE JUST A
[PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS (For Non-Public Hearing Items)]
COUPLE TOO. AND IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE BUDGET THAT IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THAT DURING OUR SESSION. UM JOSH, I'M NOT SHOWING ANYONE YET ON THE LIST. DAVID RACHET. OKAY? GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL MAYOR CITY MANAGER JUST CALLED, CAME TO TALK ABOUT THE REDISTRICTING KNOW EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR OPINION, AND NOBODY LIKES CHANGE. BUT OUR BEAUTIFUL DOCTOR FELT THIS IS FOR DISTRICT THREE FOR ROBINSON RIDGE TALKED. A LOT OF RESIDENTS GOTTEN EMAILS, PEOPLE JUST ASKING ABOUT IT. WHY? WHY THE CHANGES GOING ON AND EXPLAIN TO THEM ABOUT HOW THE PROCESS WAS, BUT WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE GOT A NEW PART COMING IN. AND JUST TALKING WITH OUR MR KOWSKI. AND HE SAID THE BUDGET JUST BEEN OR THE BIDS ARE BEING OUT RIGHT NOW, SO JUST LIKE TO KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS. EVERYBODY'S DISTRICT WANTS TO KEEP WHO THEY HAVE, BUT I THINK SHE'S DONE A FANTASTIC JOB FOR SO FAR. SHE CAME OUT TO NATIONAL NIGHT OUT MANY TIMES, AND PEOPLE ARE REALLY ENGAGED WITH HER. SO I JUST CAME HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF OUR ROBERTSON REGION FOR DISTRICT THREE, AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE HER STAY WITH OUR DISTRICT. THANK YOU.BENTLEY. GOOD EVENING, MR MAYOR . CITY COUNCIL, MR GRIMES, AND ALSO LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE REDISTRICTING ITEMS AND JUST AS A SHARED IN THE TOM'S PAST, JUST FOR COUNSEL TO HAVE SOME STRONG
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CONSIDERATION FOR INCREASING THE NUMBER OF SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS. WHEN I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH THE DISTRICT ONE REPRESENTATIVE, UM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS BECAUSE OF ALARMING IS THAT EACH REPRESENTATIVE, IT'S EACH COUNCIL PERSON WILL NOW REPRESENT. CLOSE TO 50,000 PEOPLE. WHICH IS HUGE, AND SO AS YOU WORK THROUGH THE MAPS AND LOOK AT LONG TERM REPRESENTATION . UM JUST MAYBE SETTING SOME BENCHMARKS ON WHAT DEFINES QUALITY REPRESENTATION. WHAT DEFINES FAIR REPRESENTATION. WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE NON NEGOTIABLE THAT YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO GIVE UP? UM AS YOU GO ALONG IN THIS PROCESS, NOT ONLY WITH THE MAPS BUT AND LONG TERM POTENTIAL CHARTER CHANGES THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY INCREASE THE NUMBER OF SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS AND HOW AGAIN HOW DO YOU ADD VALUE IN THIS PROCESS AND ENSURING THAT WHILE ENSURING THAT THERE IS FAIR REPRESENTATION ACROSS THE BOARD?[CONSENT AGENDA]
YOU SO MUCH? THANK YOU, BETH. URSCHEL HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS REQUIRED BY LAW AND MAY BE CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY BY ANY COUNCIL MEMBER MAKING SUCH REQUEST PRIOR TO EMOTION, VOTE ON THE CONSENT ITEMS AND I AM GOING TO ASK FOR ITEM NUMBER. 2 TO 0762 TO BE PULLED DOWN. THERE IS ANY OTHERS THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO PULL DOWN FOR INDIVIDUAL. DISCUSSION.PLEASE DO SO AND IF NOT ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE BALANCE. MR MAYOR AND MOVED THAT WE APPROVED THE UM, CONSENT AGENDA, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 2 TO 0762 CIRCUIT. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. YES. MOTION PASSES 2 TO 076 TO CONSIDER AND ACT ON RESOLUTION TERMINATING THE
[Consider/Discuss/Act on a Resolution Terminating the Agreement by and between the City of McKinney, Texas and McRight-Smith Construction, LLC, for Construction Manager at Risk Services Related to the Design and Construction of the TKI Executive Terminal at the McKinney Airport, and Authorizing the City Manager to Execute Such Documents as may be Necessary to Terminate the Agreement; and Providing an Effective Date]
AGREEMENT BUYING BETWEEN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, TEXAS, RIGHT SMITH CONSTRUCTION LLC FOR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK SERVICES RELATED TO THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE TIKI.EXECUTIVE TURMOIL MCKINNEY, AARP AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE SUCH DOCUMENTS AS MAY BE NECESSARY TO TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MR HAUSER. I JUST FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT. KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS PUBLICLY ON HOW WE GOT WHERE WE ARE, SO PEOPLE ARE OBVIOUSLY WOULD MIGHT BE CONCERNED THAT THIS IS THE SECOND COMPANY. THAT'S WORKED ON THE TERMINAL. SO IF YOU COULD GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND LITTLE HISTORY IF YOU WOULD BE HAPPY TO MR MAYOR COUNCIL, UH, THIS IS THE FBO TERMINAL. BETWEEN THE STARTED. UH SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
WE HAD A SELECTION PROCESS AT THAT TIME. THERE WERE. TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT APPLICANTS. THE SELECTED APPLICANTS WESTERN CONSTRUCTION THEY BEGAN THE PROJECT AND THEY HAD FINANCIAL TROUBLE. ALSO THE EVENTUALLY THEY FILED BANKRUPTCY. SO WE HAD TO TAKE ANOTHER UH, CONTRACTOR.
AND FROM THE INITIAL SELECTION. WE REVIEWED THE ALTERNATE THAT WAS NOT SELECTED ORIGINALLY CALLED MCX RIGHT SMITH, WHICH IS TOP OF THE ITEM. AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY RENTED SOME TROUBLE FINANCIALLY AS WELL IF FILED BANKRUPTCY IN MAY. THIS ITEM IS REALLY A PROCEDURAL ITEM , WHICH THE SURETY COMPANY NEEDS THE COUNCIL TO PAST SO THAT WE HAVE A CLOSURE ON THE CONTRACT ITSELF. WE'VE ALREADY PUT THE CONTRACTOR IN DEFAULT. WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TO THE BANKRUPTCY CORD AND HAD THE JUDGE LEFT THE STATE TO ALLOW THE CITY TO FINISH PROJECT. FINISH. THE PROJECT WILL BE THE JOB THE SURETY HAS THE OBLIGATION UNDER THE PERFORMANCE BOND TO COMPLETE SO THIS ITEM IS FOR THAT PURPOSE. THE BONDING COMPANIES, ACTUALLY THE ONES REQUESTING IT BECAUSE THEY WANT THE CLEAR PATH UNDER THEIR BOND TO FINISH THE WORK. ANYTHING ELSE WOULD BE HAPPY TO IT WAS. IT'S NOT COSTING MCKINNEY ANY MORE MONEY TO DO THIS. YES SIR. THEY KNOW YOU'RE CORRECT. THE AMOUNT REMAINING ON OUR CONTRACT WITH MCBRIDE SMITH. WILL BE TENDERED TO THE SECURITY. THEY'LL HAVE TO FINISH THE PROJECT IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT IT COSTS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE SECURITY ON ALTERNATE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE FAMILIAR
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WITH THE PROJECT AND OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GIVE THEM AS MUCH HELP AS WE CAN, BUT THEY WILL ULTIMATELY BE PICKING THAT CONTRACTOR TO SO NO OTHER COMMENTS ENTERTAIN A MOTION.MOTION THAT WE APPROVED THIS ITEM. I'LL SECOND CAST YOUR VOTES. EXTENDING. PLAQUE
[Consider/Discuss/Act on a Preliminary-Final Plat for Lots 1-9, Block A, of the 1544 County Road 362 Development, Located in the McKinney Extraterritorial Jurisdiction (ETJ), on the Southeast Corner of Miller Road (County Road 339) and County Road 362]
CONSIDERATIONS UNDER TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 2 12 220140. PF CONSIDERING ACT ON A PRELIMINARY FINAL PLAN FOR LOTS ONE THROUGH NINE BLOCKADE OF THE 15 44 COUNTY ROAD. 3 62 DEVELOPMENT LOCATED THE MCKINNEY EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION. ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF MILLER ROAD AND COUNTY ROAD. 3 62, JENNIFER. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. JENNIFER ARNOLD, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AS YOU READ, THIS IS A PLAT LOCATED IN THE CITY'S E. T J APPROXIMATELY 12.4 ACRES IN SIZE. THE AFRICANS REQUEST TO SUBDIVIDE THE PROPER INTO LA FOR A SINGLE FAMILY. RESIDENTIAL DEVELOP. THAT'S THAT ARE PRESENTED IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL WITH THIS PARTICULAR PLANT REQUEST, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DISAPPROVAL. THERE ARE SITES ALTERING COMMENTS FROM OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT REGARDING ON SITE DETENTION THAT IS NECESSARY AND TYPICALLY WHEN WE HAVE SITE ALTERING COMMENTS ON A PLAT, WE DO PROPOSE THAT THEY BE RECOMMENDED FOR DISAPPROVE. AN ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS. THE AFRICAN IS ALSO REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO NOT PROVIDE THE TYPICALLY REQUIRED BUFFERING COMMON AREA ADJACENT TO WROTE, UH RIGHTS OF WAY THAT ARE DESIGNATED ON THE PLATTE AT THIS TIME. WE'RE RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THAT VARIANCE JUST BECAUSE WE STILL NEED TO WORK THROUGH THE SITE ALTERING COMMENTS WITH THE APPLICANT. WE DON'T SEE ANY SITE CONSTRAINTS AT THE MOMENT FOR WHY THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO OTHERWISE PROVIDE THAT BUFFER THAT'S TYPICALLY REQUIRED SO FOR THAT REASON, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DISAPPROVAL OF THE PLATTE AND DENIAL OF THAT VARIANCE. UM FOR THE COUNCIL, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS QUESTIONS. THEN ENTERTAIN A MOTION. THERE'S NO QUESTIONS WILL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THIS REQUEST. IT'S APPROVED THE PLAN. APPROVED. THE REQUEST IS TO DISAPPROVE THE PLATTE PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION. CORRECT. I'LL SECOND PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. ALRIGHT REGULAR GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS PORTION AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS[Citizen Input on the FY 2022-23 Budget]
REQUIRING INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION BY THE COUNCIL. 2 TO 0763 CITIZEN INPUT ON THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 23 BUDGET MR HOLLOWAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCILOR MARK HOLLOWAY, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER FOR THE CITY. UM TONIGHT. WE'RE HAVING A CITIZEN INPUT HEARING ON THE FISCAL YEAR 23 BUDGET. THIS IS NOT THE OFFICIAL PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET THAT WILL HAPPEN ON SEPTEMBER THE SIXTH. THERE WILL ALSO BE A WILL GO THROUGH SOME OF THOSE DATES A LITTLE LITTLE BIT. UM, WE MET ON FRIDAY . WE WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET IN DETAIL, BUT I WANTED TO GO THROUGH JUST A COUPLE OF SLIDES TONIGHT BEFORE WE HAVE THE PUBLIC INPUT. YOU WILL RECOGNIZE THESE SLIDES FROM FRIDAY. UM 2023 BUDGET HIGHLIGHTS WILL BE DECREASING. THE PROPOSED BUDGET DECREASES THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BY FOUR CENTS. FOR FISCAL YEAR. 23 WE ARE SEEING VERY STRONG SALES TAX ONCE AGAIN FOR FISCAL YEAR. 22 WE ARE PROPOSING TO TAKE FAT GOLD 5% ABOVE THE FISCAL YEAR. 22 END OF YOUR BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 23. THE FISCAL YEAR. 23 BUDGET PROVIDES MARKET ADJUSTMENTS FOR ALL EMPLOYEES, WHICH ARE THE STEP INCREASES WE'RE ALLOWING FOR A MARKET STUDY TO BE COMPLETED BY OUR HR DEPARTMENT AND WE'RE PLANNING OUR STEP INCREASES FOR OUR SWORN PERSONNEL. WE ARE INCREASING OUR FUNDING ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE FOR STREET MAINTENANCE AND ALSO WE ARE PROVIDING FOR SEVERAL STAFFING INITIATIVES TO AND I'LL GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF THOSE IN JUST A SECOND. ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE, YOU'LL SEE GENERAL FUND REVENUES PROJECTED JUST OVER 100 AND $90 MILLION FOR FISCAL YEAR. 23 PROPERTY TAXES BEING 52% OF THAT. STILL SEEING THAT SHRINKING OF THE OVERALL POPPIES LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT ON FRIDAY, WHICH IS GOOD NEWS, STARTING TO SEE SOME DIVERSITY OF OUR OTHER REVENUE SOURCES LESS RELIANT ON THE OVERALL PROPERTY TAXES. EXPENDITURE SOD , ALWAYS A BALANCED BUDGET, UM, WITH PUBLIC SAFETY BEING ABOUT 46% OF THAT, AND YOU CAN SEE THE REST OF THE PERCENTAGE THERE. I[00:15:03]
WON'T READ ALL OF THEM. UH THESE ARE ADDITIONS IN THE GENERAL FUND, UH, LIKE TO POINT OUT, PARTICULARLY PUBLIC SAFETY SIDE . UH 16 NEW PEOPLE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, 11 IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OF BEING PROPOSED, AND THEN THE REST ARE OR SPREAD OUT THROUGH OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS, BUT LARGE BULK OF THAT OF OUR BUDGET. NEW BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 23 WILL BE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT WATER AND WASTEWATER TO IT'S OUR SECOND BIGGEST OPERATING FUND. UM WE SHOWED THESE SLIDES AGAIN ALSO ON ON LAST FRIDAY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE OUR WATERLINE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM. THAT'S BEEN VERY, UM, SUCCESSFUL OVER THE LAST, UH ABOUT FIVE OR SIX FISCAL YEARS. I DO ANTICIPATE A DEBT SALE FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS IN FISCAL YEAR 23 ARE THE SUPPLEMENTALS ON THE WATER AND WASTE WATER SIDE ARE FAIRLY MODEST COMPARED TO THE GENERAL FUND, BUT YOU KNOW ABOUT 5 TO 7 NEW EMPLOYEES THERE. I THINK I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY SEVEN. WE'VE GOT FIVE NOTED HERE. UH WATER AND WASTEWATER RATES. WE TALKED ABOUT THOSE IN DEPTH ON FRIDAY. WE'RE SEEING A LARGE INCREASE FROM NORTH TEXAS WATER DISTRICT , WHICH IS FORCING US TO PROBABLY PASS THAT ON AS WELL. RISKING COUNCIL DO THAT, WITH THE BUDGET ADOPTION. BUT WE'RE WHERE OUR INCREASES WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE MODEST ON THE PERCENTAGE SIDE. WITH THAT SEPTEMBER 6TH IS ARE SCHEDULED DATE RIGHT NOW FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET, THE OFFICIAL PUBLICATION. THIS IS JUST AN INPUT HEARING. UM AND THEN ALSO A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX RATE WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET. ALSO THAT EVENING , AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. AND IF NOT, THEN I'LL GET OUT OF THE WAY AND LET ANY COMMENTS. QUESTIONS. WOULD YOU MIND, THOUGH? UM WE HAVE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT A SPECIAL MEETING AND ALTERNATE DATE. POTENTIALLY DO YOU MIND? YOU KNOW FROM FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WE MAY NEED TO MOVE THE ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET BACK . WE COULD POSSIBLY WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT THIS IS THE TAX RATE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN CALLED.WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THAT WITHIN SEVEN DAYS OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO PROBABLY SOMEWHERE FROM, UM, DOING MY MATH, YOU WOULD HAVE TO CALL THE MEETING. BE SEVEN. HOURS. THEN. AFTER NEXT MONDAY OR TUESDAY. I WOULD ASSUME SEPTEMBER 1ST. I THINK, SEPTEMBER THE SIXTH AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT. I'M SORRY. YEAH. YEAH THE 11TH OR 12TH, I THINK WOULD BE YOUR DATE YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT OR MAYBE THE 12TH. YEAH. ONE DAY. SO THEY'LL BE 12TH 13TH. BUT I'M NOT SURE DOES THE WOULD HAVE TO ASK OUR ATTORNEY ON THE SEVEN DAYS FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING IF WE WOULD NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND DO THAT ON THE MONDAY INSTEAD OF TUESDAY. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OPTIONS WE HAVE. OKAY. SO THAT THAT WOULD BE UP TO YOUR DISCRETION. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PUBLIC INPUT. UM ITEM. I HAVE TWO NAMES THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, DANIEL PORZIO. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR, DATING PORZIO FIREFIGHTER 00. MCKINNEY PLAYS DR. I JUST WANTED TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS. UM I'VE BEEN TALKING TO PEOPLE NEIGHBORS. FRIENDS, RELATIVES ABOUT BUDGET.
CITY BUDGETS AND I'VE LIVED BESIDES MCKINNEY HAVE LIVED IN TUCSON, ARIZONA. KNOXVILLE TENNESSEE. CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA AND YOU KNOW MY HOMETOWN IN NEW JERSEY. AND AFTER WATCHING. THE BUDGET PRESENTATION ON FRIDAY AND JUST WATCHING ESPECIALLY CITY MANAGER GRIMES. UM. PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT THERE IS A VERY COMPLEX. SET OF VARIABLES INVOLVED IN RUNNING A CITY. OUR CITY IS NOT HUGE. BUT A COUPLE OF 100,000 PEOPLE TAKE SERIOUS EFFORT WORK PLANNING. COOPERATION WITH VARIOUS AGENCIES. AND. FROM WHAT I COULD UNDERSTAND. I HAD TO LEAVE A BUDGET MEETING EARLY. BUT FROM WHAT I SAW AND WHAT I'VE HEARD. FROM MY FRIENDS THAT I STILL KEEP IN TOUCH WITH. THANK GOD FOR TECHNOLOGY. UM WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS. AND. WE HAVE PROBLEMS EVERY DAY, BUT NOT LIKE THESE PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE GETTING READY TO LEAVE. THEY ARE GETTING READY TO PUT THEIR HOUSES UP FOR SALE . UM SO I WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU ALL BUT ESPECIALLY CITY MANAGER GRIMES AND THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW THE WHOLE STAFF. I MEAN, I'VE
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I'VE BEEN TO ENOUGH OF THESE MEETINGS, MEETINGS AND COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND COMMISSION MEETINGS TO SEE HOW YOU ARE OPERATE THE DYNAMICS OF HOW YOU SPEAK TO EACH OTHER AND TALK TO EACH OTHER AND I THINK I'LL STICK AROUND FOR A WHILE. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.THANK YOU, DANIEL. JOHN HELMER. JOHN HELMER, SEVEN PEARSON AVENUE. UM THANK YOU ALL FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. MR MAYOR, MR GRIMES. YEAH. WE'VE BEEN IN MAKENI 18 YEARS, 10 YEARS IN STONEBRIDGE FIRST AND THEN EIGHT YEARS NOW AND ON PEARSON AVENUE, WHICH IS IN THE COLLEGE DISTRICT. WHEN COAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ZEROES IN ON FOR YOU, UM. MAYBE MY EXPECTATIONS ARE OUT OF LINE, BUT WE WERE JUST STARTING TO MOVE THERE AND FIND WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE AN ABANDONMENT OF CITY SERVICES. EIGHT YEARS I'VE BEEN ASKING YOU FOR ENOUGH POLICE TO STOP THE ROAD RACING AND SPEEDING. PEARSON AVENUE IS A GUN BARREL STRAIGHT ROAD. WE HAVE THESE AVENUES THAT HAVE NO INTERRUPTIONS BETWEEN COLLEGE AND WARD, ILL. YOU CAN GO FROM 0 TO 70 AND THESE MUSCLE CARS AND FOUR SECONDS THE POLICE SAY WE'LL JUST CALL 911 AND WILL TAKE CARE OF IT. BUT THOSE GUYS ARE IN OKLAHOMA. BY THE TIME ANYONE WOULD GET THERE TO TALK ABOUT IT. THE ONLY WAY YOU. I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THIS, BUT THE ONLY WAY YOU CITE THAT IS TO HAVE POLICE TO SEE IT.
MISDEMEANOR CRIMES ARE ONLY CITED IF THE POLICE WITNESSES THEM AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SEE IF THEY'RE NOT THERE. WE HAVE NOT SEEN RED AND BLUE LIGHTS ON PEARSON IN THE EIGHT YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN THERE. IT MAY HAVE HAPPENED, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT. THERE IS SIMPLY NO CONSEQUENCE TO BAD BEHAVIOR OVER THERE AND OUR HOMES ARE 20 FT FROM THE PAVEMENT AND YOU MIGHT WONDER HOW WORKING THIS INTO A BUDGET COMMENTARY, BUT, UM I CAN'T SAY IF THE BUDGET ADEQUATE I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND ALL YOU CAN AND BACK INTO WHEREVER NEED TO. SPEND THE MONEY. UM. A LITTLE STUDY ON BENCHMARKING IN 19. I FELT WE WERE A LITTLE SHORT BACK THEN. I LOOKED INTO THIS DOCUMENT ON THE CITY WEBSITE. THE COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT. WHAT A DAUNTING. WHAT A DAUNTING REPORT THAT IS. I CAN'T BEGIN TO MAKE SENSE OF IT. BUT IN THE LAST SECTION OF THAT WE HAVE SOME NUMBERS. MCKINNEY HAD 136,000 PEOPLE IN 2012, AND NOW WE'RE AT TWO WHOLE STICKS. THAT'S A 51% GROWTH AND POPULATION. AND WE WERE JUST BARELY MAKING THAT WITH POLICE. BUT WE HAD 17,000 CITATIONS WRITTEN IN 2012 AND AGAIN IN 2017, BUT NOW THEY'VE FALLEN OFF TO AROUND 9000. OUR POPULATION HAS GROWN 50% IN THAT TIME. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW HOW CITATIONS CAN DROP OFF BY 50. WHEN OUR POPULATION IS GROWING SO FAST. LAST POINT IS CODE ENFORCEMENT IS NOT ENOUGH 68 SQUARE MILES. NOBODY'S DOING ANYTHING WITH THE OLD PROPERTIES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE ASKED 1000 TIMES, AND WE'RE JUST AND THERE'S JUST NOTHING GOING ON. IT'S JUST UNBELIEVABLE. THANKS FOR THANKS. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. ALRIGHT. THAT'S ALL I
[Consider/Discuss/Act on an Ordinance Amending the Fiscal Year 2021-2022 Annual Budget and Amending the 2022-2026 Capital Improvements Program to Provide Funds for the ERP Implementation Project (IT1007)]
HAD SIGNED UP TO SPEAK REMOVED TO 22 0764 CONSIDERING ACT ON AN ORDINANCE MANY OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2021 2022 ANNUAL BUDGET, AMENDING THE 2022 2026 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM TO PROVIDE FUNDS FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION PROJECT. YES, SIR. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A COMPANION ITEM. UH MAYOR COUNCIL OFFICIAL CITY MANAGER. UM REALLY, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM AND THE NEXT ITEM, AND IF I COULD, HE'S ALREADY GOT IT UP THERE. SO I WANTED TO UP YOUR UPDATE YOU ON OUR E R P IMPLEMENTATION. UM GENTLEMEN, BEFORE HE USED THE WORD DAUNTING. THESE ARE QUITE THE DAUNTING TASKS TOO. UM CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THIS IMPLEMENTATION. UM LIKE TO GO OVER THAT REAL QUICK, JUST STAFF RESIGNATIONS AND TURNOVERS. THIS IS A PROBLEM NOT ONLY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY HERE FOR BUT FOR PRIVATE SECTOR ARE VENDOR THAT'S WORKING WITH US TO DO. THIS IMPLEMENTATION HAS EXPERIENCED TURNOVER JUST LIKE WE HAVE. UM I DO THINK WE'RE STARTING TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A TURN BASED ON OUR APPLICATIONS THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE. COME IN. NOW FOR VACANT POSITIONS. WE'RE SEEING MUCH MORE QUALIFIED COMING. PEOPLE COMING BACK TO US CAN'T REALLY EXPLAIN WHY THAT IS BUT WE ARE SEEING BETTER APPLICANTS COMING BACK IN, SO I[00:25:03]
THINK OUR STAFFING ISSUES ARE GOING TO IMPROVE WITH A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. DATA CONVERSION MENTIONED THIS IN A PREVIOUS UPDATE. WE ARE UPDATING A SYSTEM THAT IS 30 YEARS OLD CODED IN RPG. NOW I CAN'T EVEN YOU CAN'T EVEN FIND AN RPG PROGRAM OR ANYMORE, SO JUST GETTING THAT DATA OUT OF THAT SYSTEM AND INTO A SYSTEM LIKE ORACLE, WITH THE PROCESSES THAT THEY HAVE IN PLACE HAVE BEEN QUITE THE CHALLENGE AS WELL. BUT WE ARE WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH. Y'ALL APPROVED US TO HIRE A COMPANY CALLED PREMIER INTERNATIONAL, WHICH IS ALL THEY DO IS DATA CONVERSION. THEY HAVE BEEN. THAT'S BEEN A REALLY GOOD DECISION, AND THEY HAVE BEEN A GREAT ASSET TO US IN GETTING THE DATA OUT OF NOVEL LINE OR OUT OF THE S 400 INTO ORACLE. UM. STAFF WORKLOAD AND JUST BALANCE YOU KNOW, THESE PROJECTS ARE LIKE HAVING TWO FULL TIME JOBS, BUT YOU HAVE TO ACCOMPLISH THEM IN THE SAME EIGHT HOUR TIME PERIOD. SO WE HAVE DONE OUR BEST TO BACKFILL WHERE WE CAN WITH TEMPORARY STAFF. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT'S REALLY HARD WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT VERY SPECIFIC TASKS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE AND HISTORY THAT HAS TO BE THERE TO BE ABLE TO DO THOSE TASKS. SO, UM SO IT'S JUST VERY DAUNTING ON STAFF, AND IT WAS WEARING AND WE'RE 17 18 MONTHS INTO THIS PROJECT NOW, SO PEOPLE ARE JUST GETTING WORN DOWN, BUT BUT THEY'RE HANGING IN THERE AND THEY'RE WORKING HARD AND JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE THEM AND APPRECIATE THEM FOR ALL THEIR TASKS FOR ALL THEIR EFFORTS. LAST PAYROLL SPECIFIC, SO WE GOTTA REALLY LATE START ON OUR PAYROLL. WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN STARTED BACK IN APRIL. BUT WITH THE STAFFING PROBLEMS WITH THE VENDOR AND THE SPECIFICALLY IN THEIR PAYROLL AREA, WE ONLY GOT STARTED ON THAT AND TESTING ON THAT LAST WEEK. SO, UM SO THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS REALLY SPEAKING TO. IS WE WANT TO, UH TAKE CARE OF THE VENDOR. KEEP THEM HAPPY. KEEP THEM ON BOARD WITH US AND PAY THEM FROM HERE THROUGH NOVEMBER SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT PAYROLL LOOKS LIKE WHAT THE SYSTEM LOOKS LIKE THE DATA CONVERSION BEFORE WE MAKE OUR FINAL CHANGE ORDER IN DECEMBER. ACTUALLY NOVEMBER TO START IN DECEMBER TO MAKE THE FINAL PUSH TOWARDS THE GO LIVE NEXT SPRING. THAT'S OUR GOAL. UM SO. QUICKLY IF I CAN GO TO THE BUDGETS WIDE AND CAN CONTROL OF THAT, SORRY. SO THE BUDGET. PRESS THAT TWICE. THE TECHNOLOGY GUY CAN'T RUN A POWER POINT. THEY DON'T LET ME UP HERE VERY OFTEN. YOU KNOW, THEY LET ME OFF MY LEASH EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON. SO BACK IN 2016 WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE. THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY HAD TARGETED ABOUT $15 MILLION FOR THIS PROJECT. I FELT LIKE THAT WAS A BIT MUCH QUITE HONESTLY.BUT THEY WERE PRETTY MUCH RIGHT ON TARGET SOMEHOW. UM SO WE STARTED WITH AN ORIGINAL BUDGET OF $11,650,000. WE ARE A BALANCE IN THE TECHNOLOGY FUNDED 900,000. OR PROPOSING THIS AMENDMENT TO BRING THAT BUDGET UP BECAUSE HONESTLY, BACK IN 16 , I TOLD MARK, STOP SQUIRRELING MONEY AWAY. I THINK WE'VE GOT ENOUGH. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED EXTRA BUT AS IT TURNS OUT, WE'RE NEEDING NEEDING EXTRA, SO I SHOULD HAVE NEVER TOLD HIM THAT. BUT SO HE. THIS AWAY. THREE POINT MIL. TO GET PROPOSED BUDGET UP TO 15,000,006 15,000,050. NOW, THE FAST FORWARD IN JANUARY, 9 2021. THE ALL APPROVED THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT BUDGET, WHICH ARE THE LINE ITEMS DOWN TO NOVEMBER, 2ND. THAT WAS 9.7 MILLION IF I REMEMBER RIGHT? NOVEMBER 2ND. WE CAME TO YOU WITH 21. WE CAME TO YOU WITH CHANGE ORDER NUMBER TWO. THAT WAS TO PUSH US TO JULY OF 22. FOR 1.4 MILLION. THAT'S WHERE WE ENGAGED PREMIER INTERNATIONAL, UH, TO HELP US GET THROUGH OUR DATA CONVERSION , PLUS SOME MORE TIME FOR CR CEDAR. NOW WE'RE BRINGING YOU THIS PARTICULAR CHANGE ORDER TO GET US THROUGH NOVEMBER FOR PREMIER INTERNATIONAL AND SYRIA CEDAR FOR THE AMOUNT OF HOURS THEY NEED, WHICH IS BASICALLY 40 HOURS A WEEK FOR BOTH OUR 40 HOURS TIMES, HOWEVER, MANY STAFF MEMBERS TELL YOU HOW WHICH WILL TOTAL 1.767 TO GET THROUGH NOVEMBER. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HOPING WE'LL GET COMFORTABLE WITH THE SYSTEM WITH THE DATA CONVERSION WITH PAYROLL ITEMS THAT ARE HAVING ISSUES TO WHERE WE CAN MAKE ONE FINAL PUSH TO GET TO GO LIVE. THE, UH LAST ITEM DOWN BELOW THERE IS WE ARE ESTIMATING THAT TO BE AROUND 2.2 , WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE BALANCE OF THE 15 MILLION THAT WE HAD PUT AWAY. SO I KNOW THAT WAS PROBABLY A LOT IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. BUT BE GLAD TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. SO
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YOU'RE SAYING THAT, UM THE TWO NUMBERS, THE ONE ASSUMING THE ONE NUMBER OF 1767 IS WHAT IT IS. THAT'S THE WAY YOU'RE ASKING FOR. THAT'S THE CHANGE ORDER TO GET FROM HERE TO NOVEMBER FOR TONIGHT, AND SO DO YOU NEED WHAT'S THE 2.2? IS THAT ALREADY BEEN THAT'S ALREADY INCORPORATED IN THE DEATHS OF FORECASTED IN OUR BUDGET, BASICALLY THE BALANCE BETWEEN THE 15 6 50 THE 13TH THREE. SO THAT'S ALREADY IN THE 22 23 BUDGET. YES WELL, IT'S IN THE TECHNOLOGY FUND. AND. SO YOU DON'T ANTICIPATE COMING TO US AGAIN WITH SIX MONTHS FROM NOW AND SAYING, HEY, I'M WE WERE WRONG AND WE NEEDED ANOTHER MILLION AND A HALF PLAN IS TO COME TO YOU IN NOVEMBER AND HOPEFULLY HAS DONE IT SOLID. AND TELL YOU WHAT. THAT FINAL NUMBER IS GOING TO BE, WHICH WE'RE ESTIMATING AT THAT 2.2. DEFINITELY GET BEYOND THAT. I THINK WE'LL BE HAVING SOME VERY HARD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE VENDOR BASED ON SOME ISSUES WE'VE HAD. OTHER QUESTIONS.YEAH, I'M SORRY. I WANT TO DRIVE THE MAPPER ATTEMPT POINT HOME. THE 1.7 IN THE 2.2 ARE THOSE NUMBERS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE BUDGET, THEN THE PROPOSED BUDGET ALREADY OR IS THIS SOME 2.2 IS THE 1.7 IS NOT. THAT'S WHAT THE 1.7 IS WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR RIGHT NOW. IT'S OVER AND ABOVE.
WHAT IN OUR PROPOSED BUDGET. IS THAT OVER AND ABOVE OR IS THE NUMBER THAT'S IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS STEVE TILDEN HARRIGAN SPEAK, BUT TECHNOLOGY FUND IS A SEPARATE FUND THAT WE BUDGET TO CONTRIBUTE TRANSFER INTO THE TECHNOLOGY FUND, AND THAT TECHNOLOGY FUND IS THE SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THIS, BUT STEVE YOU WANT TO CLARIFY THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS, AND WHEN SID CAME UP TO START AND SAID THAT THIS IS TO COVER TWO ITEMS, THE 1ST 1 90 YEAR AGENDA IS THE TRANSFER OF $3.1 MILLION INTO THAT FUND, WHICH IS MADE UP OF SOURCES SUCH AS THE WATER FUND. TECHNOLOGY I COULD I COULD GET IT. BUT WHEN YOU ADOPT THAT BUDGET, ASSUMING THAT THE COUNCIL ADOPTS THAT TRANSFER OF THE 3.1 THAT WILL COMPLETE ALL THE FUNDING THAT WE NEED SO TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN ROGERS IS, UM WE WANT TO COME BACK HERE IN NOVEMBER. ASK FOR A FINAL CHANGE ORDER THAT WILL NOT ASK FOR ANY ADDITIONAL DOLLARS CHANGE ORDER. WILL THE DOLLARS WERE ALREADY BUDGETED, ASSUMING THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVES THE $3.1 MILLION TRANSFER THAT IT'S THE FIRST ONE OUT OF YOUR TWO ITEMS TONIGHT. THANK YOU. HMM. OTHER QUESTIONS. SO HE REALLY SPOKE TO TWO ITEMS, BUT WE'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THE FIRST ITEM, THEN WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM.
MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS ITEM. SECOND CAST YOUR VOTES. THE SECOND ITEM YOU SPOKE
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TO WAS 2 TO 0765. AND THAT'S CONSIDERING ACTING A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MEASURES TO EXECUTE THE CHANGE ORDER WITH SIERRA CEDAR LLC, DEDICATING ADDITIONAL TIME AND RESOURCES TO THE ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING PROJECT, ALREADY SPOKEN TO IT. DOES ANYONE HAVE A QUESTION? RELATED TO THAT ITEM, AND IF NOT . MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS ITEM AS WELL. SECOND CAST YOUR VOTES. RIGHT NOW. THE FUND WILL BEGIN WITH ITEM 2 TO 0576. MR HAUSER CONSIDERING ACT ON AN[Consider/Discuss/Act on an Ordinance Approving the Redistricting of the City’s Single-Member Council Districts and Establishing New District Boundary Lines for McKinney City Council Elections Based on the 2020 Census Data; and Providing for an Effective Date]
ORDINANCE APPROVING THE REDISTRICTING IN THE CITY'S SINGLE MEMBER COUNCIL DISTRICTS AND ESTABLISHING NEW DISTRICT BOUNDARY LINES FOR MCKINNEY CITY COUNCIL ELECTIONS BASED ON THE 2020 CENSUS DATA AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. GOOD EVENING, MR MAYOR COUNCIL. THIS IS THE REDISTRICTING ITEM WE'VE HAD. MANY MEETINGS ON. I HAVE SEEN MANY MAPS. I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD. JUST HAVE MAPS THAT MR STEVENSON CAN SHOW YOU, UH AND MR SEAQUEST IS NOT HERE TODAY.UM, BUT IF THERE'S MORE DRAWING TO DO, WE CAN CERTAINLY ACCOMMODATE SO I WILL, UM I'LL START THE CONVERSATION BEFORE WE SEE THE MAPS AND TELL YOU THAT I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF, UM THERE'S TWO OPPOSING VIEWS BEST I CAN TELL ON WHAT THE REDISTRICTING MAPS SHOULD LOOK LIKE. AND THEY'RE BASED ON INDIVIDUAL WERE MULTIPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM. THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THEM OR THEY FEEL THEY'RE IMPORTANT TO THEM, EITHER. BECAUSE OF THE DISTRICT.
THEY CURRENTLY REPRESENT MAY ONE FOR REELECTION TO REPRESENT, OR MAYBE JUST HAVE A JUST JUST FEEL STRONGLY. ABOUT IT BASED ON HISTORICAL UH, REPRESENTATION, BUT EITHER WAY, UM I THEN
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REACHED OUT TO AS GUNNER AND ASKED HIM TO IF WE TAKE ALL ALL THE PERSONALITIES ON THE DIOCESE OUT OF IT ALL THE BIASES OUT OF IT ALL THE PERSONAL PREFERENCES IF WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THIS FROM A START OVER PERSPECTIVE, MOVING FORWARD WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST? HOW WOULD YOU APPROACH IT GENERALLY? WE ALL KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THAT. IT JUST DIDN'T WORK FOR INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CURRENT DISTRICTING. UM BUT I ASKED HIM TO DO THAT TO GIVE US JUST THE CLEANEST LINES THAT THAT IF WE HAD NO CONSIDERATION OF INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL BIASES AND THEN, UM, SECONDLY, WITH THE BIASES, YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT IS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF THIS AMOUNT OF DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS SO WHAT HE IS. WHAT HE HAS PROVIDED AND WE EVERYONE'S ALREADY SEEN. C AND D. BUT IF WE GO DO YOU HAVE THAT ABLE TO PULL UP? THIS MAP IS JUST ASKING AGAIN TO SET ALL INPUT FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS. CURRENTLY IF WE WERE STARTING FROM SCRATCH, ASKED WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE IN A IN THE MOST UNIFORM? EASY TO UNDERSTAND WAY FOR THE FOR THE CITY AND RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY. AND SO THIS WAS PRESENTED. JUST FOR ANOTHER POINT OF DISCUSSION.SINCE WE ARE IN CONFLICT. WITH THE OTHER TWO MAPS. I WANTED TO MAKE IT MORE COMPLICATED AND THROW A THIRD MAP WAS IT WAS PRESENTED ORIGINALLY ORIGINALLY YOUNG, RIGHT, BUT THERE IS ONE THING THAT HAD TO BE ADJUSTED. I THINK FROM THE ORIGINAL MAP JUST BECAUSE OF A SITTING CURRENT SITTING COUNCIL, TOO. BRING THAE DISCUSSION. WE CAN SHOW YOU THE DEVIATIONS ALSO FROM THE VOTING RIGHTS IF YOU HAVE THAT THERE IS A ANOTHER SLIDING HAS SET WITH THAT. I BELIEVE THAT THESE WERE SHOWN TO THE COUNCIL BACK IN NOVEMBER. OF LAST YEAR. THE SECOND TABLE.
SO THIS IS THE DEVIATION FOR CURRENT MAP THAT WAS JUST ON THE BOARD FOR A BECAUSE THERE'S MORE THAN 100 AND 40 PEOPLE 1000 PEOPLE. I'M SORRY. THAT'S A 14 GAUGE. THIS IS 4.49% DEVIATION.
THAT'S A RATHER. WHERE DO YOU SEE A 4.49? JUST LOOKING AT THE LAST COMMON. WHAT IS THE OVERALL? DO WE HAVE THE DEVIATIONS CALCULATED ON THE OVERALL POPULATION, NOT ON THE POPULATION. OVERALL DEVIATION 9.47. AND THE DEVIATION ON C AND D. I BELIEVE C IS IN THE TWO OR 3% 3% AND THEN THE D. I WANT TO SAY IT. YOU WANT TO PULL SEE IN THE PERCENT INDEED, PUBLIC CAN SEE THOSE. SCROLL DOWN SO WE COULD SEE THE. I KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE THE DATA AND THEN ATTACH SOMETHING RIGHT. SEPARATISTS VARIANTS ON C WAS 2.68. AND THE VARIANCE ON D WAS 7.49. THAT'S RIGHT. SO I ACTUALLY WANTED TO GO BACK AND ADDRESS SOME THINGS THAT WERE SAID AT THE LAST MEETING BECAUSE I REALLY REGRET THAT I DIDN'T SPEAK UP. YOU KNOW ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT I THOUGHT WERE REALLY KIND OF BOTHERSOME. I WANT US TO BE VERY CAREFUL AS WE'RE MAKING THIS DECISION THAT WHEN WE'RE DOING THAT, WE'RE NOT MAKING A DECISION TO ISOLATE CERTAIN GROUPS OF PEOPLE. SO PEOPLE WHO HOUSING OR APARTMENTS . THOSE FOLKS ARE NOT SECOND CLASS CITIZENS IN THIS COMMUNITY . WE SHOULDN'T TREAT THEM AS SUCH. THEY DESERVE. JUST AS MUCH
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FAIR REPRESENTATION IS EVERY EVERYONE ELSE HERE, SO I JUST WANTED TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE DIDN'T DO THAT. BUT I ALSO WANTED TO ADDRESS WAS THE ACCUSATION THAT, UM YOU KNOW, MY PREFERENCE IS FOR REDISTRICTING WERE BASED ON MY DESIRE FOR REELECTION. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. AND I THINK EVERYONE ON THIS DIETS KNOWS THAT THAT IS NOT TRUE. UM I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WHEN IT COMES TO MY DECISION MAKING PROCESS, I COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN THREE YEARS AT AN ELECTION. OKAY IT IS MY DUTY TO DO. WHAT I KNOW IS BEST NOT ONLY FOR DISTRICT THREE, BUT FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, AND I WILL ACT WITH THAT IN MIND. AT THE ELECTION CHIPS FALL WHERE THEY MAY IN THREE YEARS. NOW THAT BEING SAID, I WANTED TO POINT OUT A FEW MORE THINGS ABOUT WHY I THINK OPTION D REALLY IS THE ONLY REASONABLE OPTION TO CONSIDER. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ELDORADO, THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, AUBURN HILLS AREA AND THEN THE CRAIG RANCH AREA. BUT WHAT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT BEFORE IS THAT THIS IS THE ONLY MAP THAT DOES NOT LIMIT THE GROWTH OF DISTRICT THREE.DISTRICT FOUR HAS A LARGE AREA OF GROWTH HERE. AREA OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH DISTRICT ONE HAS PART OF PAINTED TREE AND HERE AND A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD COME THROUGH HERE. DISTRICT TWO HAS THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR THERE ALONG 1 21, WHERE THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR GROWTH. CAN WE GO BACK TO, UM PLAN C, PLEASE? THIS IS PRETTY MUCH GOING TO BE LANDLOCKED. THIS DOES NOT PROVIDE US THE SAME OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH IN THIS MAP. THE OPTION FOR PAINTED TREE WHICH WOULD BRING A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN WOULD BE LOST. AND ALSO THAT AREA WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WHERE BAYLOR HOSPITAL IS THAT'S CURRENTLY IN DISTRICT THREE. ALL OF THAT WOULD ALSO BE LOST. SO MY QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS IN EIGHT MORE YEARS WHEN WE HAVE ANOTHER CENSUS THAT COMES ABOUT AND WE HAVE GROWN BY ANOTHER 30 40 50,000 PEOPLE. HOW ARE WE GOING TO RE SHIFT AGAIN? WE'RE MAKING A BIG SHIFT IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE ADJUSTING DISTRICT THREE, AND WE'RE GONNA FACE AN EVEN BIGGER PROBLEM AND CAUSING A BIGGER SHIFT WHEN WE COME BACK AND EIGHT MORE YEARS, I THINK WE HAVE TO BE A LOT SMARTER ABOUT HOW WE PLAN FOR THE LONG TERM.
NOT JUST FOR TODAY. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE VARIANCE IS BETTER WITH A BUT I THINK IN IN THE LONG RUN IF WE GO WITH PLAN C. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME ISSUES AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. I DON'T WANT TO SEE AUBURN HILLS UM ROBINSON RIDGE, HEATHER WOULD COMMUNITIES UP THERE HAVE TO SHIFT OUT OF DISTRICT THREE AND THEN LATER HAVE TO SHIFT BACK IN. I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR TO THE CITIZENS UP THERE, SO I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS. YEAH, I WILL, UM CERTAINLY I DON'T BELIEVE I MADE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT YOUR BIAS LAST WEEK ON BASED ON THE ELECTION. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT AT ALL. SO FOR THE RECORD, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S THAT'S THE CASE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
UM I DO THINK THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE GROWTH REGIONS, NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, UH, THERE ARE GROWTH PRIMARILY IS GOING TO BE TO THE NORTHWEST AND NORTHEAST. SO DISTRICT THREE DISTRICT TWO ARE GOING TO BE COMPROMISED AND LANDLOCKED, SO TO SPEAK. IN ANY OF THE. CURRENT ITERATIONS.
COMPARATIVELY SPEAKING TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE IN IN DISTRICT ONE AND DISTRICT FOUR.
THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CASE IN EIGHT YEARS, NO MATTER WHAT WE DO. I DON'T THINK THERE'S A WAY TO, UM I GUESS THERE WOULD BE A WAY BUT IT WOULD BE NOTHING LIKE WE'VE LOOKED AT SO FAR IF WE WERE TRYING TO OPEN UP TO KEEP UP WITH GROWTH, FOR EXAMPLE, AS AS DISTRICT FOUR DISTRICT ONE I'M NOT SURE. MAP SO. I DON'T THINK YOU DO REDISTRICTING AND TRYING TO FORECAST THE GROWTH AND SAYING I THINK WHAT YOU DO IS YOU LOOK AT NOW I HAVE HAD THE MOST MOST GROWTH IN OF EVERYBODY. AND YET I DON'T THINK MY DISTRICT HAS SUFFERED. I DON'T THINK WE'VE YOU KNOW THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE TO TAKE OUT SOME. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS SCREAMING OR OR, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S JUST THE GROWTH AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A WHEN A CITY GROWS AND SO I THINK WHAT YOU DO IS YOU MAKE THE BEST DECISION RIGHT NOW AND THEN CONTINUE YEARS. YOU MAKE THE NEXT BEST DECISION AND IF IT MEANS, INCLUDING SOMETHING THAT WAS DISK LOADED 10 YEARS AGO, AND MOST PEOPLE DON'T EVEN REMEMBER 10 YEARS AGO AND WHAT HAPPENED? UM BECAUSE THAT'S THE LAST TIME WE HAD, UM YOU KNOW, REDISTRICTING, AND NOBODY CAN NOBODY UP HERE COULD TELL ME WHAT WAS TAKEN AND WHAT WAS NOT. AND SO IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL TO BE PUT IN A DIFFERENT DISTRICT. I WOULD SAY IS GROWN, BUT IT DOESN'T HASN'T CHANGED REPRESENTATION. THAT'S MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SHIPPED, SHIFTING, CONSTANTLY SHIFTING REPRESENTATION EVERY TIME THERE'S A NEW CENSUS, EVERY 10 YEARS THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN MORE YEARS. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AGAIN. AND WE'RE GONNA AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA READJUST IN THE VOTER BASE FOR DISTRICT THREE SUBSTANTIALLY LIKE YOU'RE DOING THIS TIME. IT HAS THE BIGGEST IMPACT ON DISTRICT THREE. SHE SO I'M GONNA LET ME LET'S TALK ABOUT ABOUT
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DISTRICT THREE FOR A SECOND. AND I KNOW THAT THERE WAS AN ARGUMENT MADE FOR THE PENINSULA . THAT'S THERE NOW. BUT IF WE IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED, UM, DISTRICT THREE, THE PART EAST OF CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, OF COURSE, WAS ALWAYS IN DISTRICT ONE. PRIOR TO A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT MOVED INTO DOWNTOWN AND DISTRICT THREE WAS REDRAWN JUST TO ACCOMMODATE THAT ONE COUNCIL MEMBER. FRANKLY, THAT WAS IT REALLY WAS. THAT WAS THE IMPETUS FOR I MEAN, HE LIVED IN THAT DISTRICT WHEN HE WAS ELECTED. BUT THEN THE PENINSULA TO KEEP HIM IN THAT DISTRICT TO KEEP THEM IN THE DISTRICT, SO HE DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T DRIVE. SAME SAME ARGUMENT. DIFFERENT SIDE OF THE COIN, BUT MY POINT IS, BUT BUT MY POINT IS THAT, UM THERE. I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS THAT MOST PEOPLE, IF NOT ALL PEOPLE LIVING IN THAT AREA, UM IN DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY, DON'T IF YOU WERE TO ASK HIM WHAT DISTRICT THERE IN IF THEY KNEW THAT DISTRICT ONE WAS GENERALLY EAST SIDE OF CENTRAL. THEY'RE THEY'RE IDENTIFIED THEY WOULD IDENTIFY WITH DISTRICT ONE. MUCH MORE SO THAN THEY WOULD WITH DISTRICT THREE. AT LEAST GEOGRAPHICALLY. YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT FROM THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. THEY LIKE HAVING TWO REPRESENTATIVES ON THAT SIDE TO MAKE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE EAST SIDE . WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT ELDORADO, BECAUSE IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WAY THESE LINES ARE DRAWN. IT MAKES MORE SENSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THE HISTORIC DISTRICT OUT OF THREE TO PUT ELDORADO BACK IN THREE IT'S NOT BACK IN THREE. WE COULD PUT IT IN THREE. THAT'S WHAT YEAH, THAT'S WHAT DOES THE DOES THAT AND I'M AND I'M WILLING TO.I'M WILLING TO DO A TO BECAUSE A REALLY MAKES THE MOST SENSE IN MAKING THE LINES EASY TO UNDERSTAND. THOROUGH AND. I HATE I HATE TO LOSE ELDORADO. BUT I AM I JUST WANT THAT DISTRICT TO THE CORRIDOR TO BE PROTECTED BY DISTRICT TOO, AND I JUST THINK THAT THEY'RE ALL PRETTY MUCH IN THERE TOGETHER. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A SO WE'RE IN A YOU HAVE THE DISTRICT TWO. YOU HAVE THAT CORRIDOR PROTECTED DISTRICTS. ONE IS NICE AND TIDY RIGHT THERE. DISTRICT THREE IS THE HEART OF MAKENI AND DISTRICT. FORD'S THAT NORTH DISTRICT THREE HAS VERY LIMITED OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER. I MEAN, I WOULD SAY TO MATTER DOES MATTER, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE SHIFTING AGAIN IN 18 YEARS IN EIGHT MORE YEARS, AND EIGHT MORE YEARS WILL HAVE AN INCENSE IS 2020. BUT WE CHANGED TWO YEARS AFTER LOOKING AT ADJUSTING THIS AGAIN IN 10 YEARS WE COULD HAVE DONE THIS LAST YEAR. WE COULD HAVE REDISTRICT LAST YEAR WERE LATE DOING THIS. SO NINE YEARS, MAKING A DECISION. STILL 22 THINGS REGARDING A AND IT'S THE SAME THING REGARDING C THE AT THE MACRO LEVEL OF THIS DISTRICT ONE IS SHORT 12,000 VOTES. 12,000 PEOPLE. I SHOULD SAY 12,000 PEOPLE VOTERS. I YOUR. UP NINE OR 10,000 PEOPLE. DISTRICT TWO IS UP NINE OR 10,000 PEOPLE THIS MAP AND MAP C SAYS. I'VE GOT TO GO GET THOSE 9000 VOTERS , BUT I GOT TO GO THROUGH DISTRICT THREE TO GET THEM. AND IT COMPLETELY REMAKES. TO DISTRICT MAPS BECAUSE WE REMAKE THREE JUST FOR ME TO GO GET VOTES OUT OF YOUR YOUR DISTRICT JUST TO GO GET CONSTITUENTS. HOW DID YOUR DISTRICT THREE. AND ONE ARE LOW AND HAVE TO PULL FROM TWO AND FOUR. AND IN THIS MAP RIGHT HERE, EVERY PERSON THEN I ADD TO MY DISTRICT 12,000 PEOPLE. COME FROM DISTRICT THREE. AND THAT MEANS THAT DISTRICT THREE HAS TO GET THOSE 12,000 PLUS THE 5000. SHE'S DOWN , WHICH IS 17,000 NEW PEOPLE INTO A DISTRICT THAT WILL BE 48,000 PEOPLE. ALL NEW 17,000 OF THEM WILL BE NEW THAT IS 37% OF HER DISTRICT WILL BE NEW CONSTITUENTS TODAY. SO WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? IT IS A LIKE IN TERMS OF TIGHT LITTLE LINES AND IT COMPLETELY REMAKES THE DISTRICT. IT SHIFTS. HOW IT HOW IT YOU KNOW WHAT IT FEELS LIKE. AND IN TERMS OF THIS ONE UM, IT SHIFTS A LOT ABOUT WHAT DISTRICT ONE LOOKS LIKE. I'M INCORPORATING THOSE 12,000 PEOPLE IN AREAS THAT THAT DON'T LOOK LIKE DISTRICT ONE TODAY. BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. UM YOU KNOW, THE 9000 PEOPLE WEST OF LAKE FOREST. IS A DIFFERENT COMMUNITY THAN THAN YOU SAY THAT DISTRICT THREE GOES THROUGH OUR ONE GETS THROUGH BECAUSE WELL. I THIS IS THE CLEANEST AND I, THE MAYOR GOES TO THE GUY WHO'S BEEN IN CHARGE OF THE STUFF LOOKS AT
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THIS RE DOES IT AND HE'S JUST LIKE THAT'S A HE. IT'S NOT BOTHERING HIM. IT'S NOT BOTHERING THE PROFESSIONAL WHO DOES THIS FOR A LIVING. I WOULD I WOULD I WOULD BE. I WOULD ASK THAT WE WE'VE HAD HIM. HERE, TOO. SPEAK. TIMES AND HE DIDN'T GIVE AN OPINION THAT THIS ONE WAS THE ONE HE WOULD PICK. AND SO I UNLESS HE'S GOING TO BE HERE TO TELL THAT WOULD PREFER WE NOT PUT THAT CLEAR THAT REPRESENT THAT, HE SAYS. THIS IS WHEN HE WOULD PICK MY WHAT I SAID, IS IF WE TOOK ALL ALL BIASES OUT OF IT ALL FOR WHATEVER THEY MIGHT BE ALL ALL OF THE DIALOGUE FROM UP HERE AND WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT ESTABLISHING A CLEAN, UM SHOULD SAY IT'S A. PREFERENCE. THAT'S THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH GROWTH. THAT 9000 PEOPLE AT WEST OF LAKE FOREST AND ALSO CREATES ALL OF THE PEOPLE. UM THAT WILL BE ADDED IN PAINTED TREE AND COMMUNITIES AROUND PAINTED TREE INTO DISTRICT ONE. AND SO IN THIS MAP WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT 9% VARIANTS. IT'S GONNA BE BECAUSE DISTRICT ONE IS ONE OR TWO LARGEST DISTRICTS. THERE ARE AND I HAVE ALL OF THE GROWTH. AND SO IN 10 YEARS THAT I'M GONNA BE DISTRICT ONE WILL BE ENORMOUS AND IT WILL COMPLETELY REMAKE THE SHAPE OF THIS DISTRICT. VERSUS PLAN D SPLITS THAT GROWTH BETWEEN THREE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS. AND INCORPORATES IT IN A WAY. THAT THAT ABSORBS IT INTO THE COMMUNITIES THAT ALREADY HAVE THAT REPRESENTATION. SO I DON'T YOU KNOW? I DON'T SEE HOW. A OR C PROVIDE US LIKE GOOD. FORWARD LOOKING PLAN. I. I WOULDN'T SAY THAT. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE D. I'M I'M OF THE MINDSET. WE SHOULD GO TO 66 DISTRICTS BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT THERE IS UH, UM, VALUE IN SAYING WE'VE GOT A DISTRICT THAT REPRESENTS STONEBRIDGE, AND WE'VE GOT A DISTRICT THAT REPRESENTS CRAIG RANCH IN ELDORADO IN THE NORTHERN PART OF OUR CITY IN THE EASTERN PART OF OUR CITY IN THE CENTRAL PART OF OUR CITY. AND I THINK THAT'S VALUABLE TO SAY IN THIS. I THINK THIS IS THE BEST WE CAN DO WITH WHAT WE HAVE. AND I THINK IT IS FAR AND AWAY BETTER THAN SEE YOUR A YOU PULL UP, SEE? WELL. WHERE DO WE GO? HORSE I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN EMOTION THAT WE APPROVED PLAN D. LIKE CONTENT, MARSHALL. THERE'S A MOTION A SECOND DISCUSS. CAST YOUR VOTE. I THINK THIS IS THE WORST DECISION, SO I MEAN SO BREATHE. THIS DOESN'T MAKE SOME MORE COMPLICATED.DOESN'T PROVIDE THE REPRESENTATION THAT 1 21 NEEDS. I THINK MY BODY. HOLDS TO OUR EXISTING COUNCIL DISTRICTS AS BEST PART AS BEST AS POSSIBLE. WHICH WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE LAID OUT. I THINK IT ABSORBS THE GROWTH. IN THE MOST PRUDENT WAY AN EQUITABLE WAY POSSIBLE. AND.
I THINK IT IT IS. IT IS THE. I THINK IT IT CREATES A MAP THAT IS MOST RESEMBLES WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. HMM. IT CERTAINLY DOES FOR THIS TRICK ONE IN FOUR. NOW THAT WOULD MAKE THAT ARGUMENT FOR TWO AND THREE. I DON'T KNOW WHO TO GIVE CREDIT TO. BUT THERE'S AN OLD ADAGE THAT THE SIMPLEST SOLUTION IS USUALLY THE BEST SOLUTION. NOW THAT APPLIES HERE. UM THE ARGUMENTS UP HERE ARE IN DEFENSE OF THE MCKINNEY, TAXPAYER THERE IN DEFENSE OF THOSE WHO WERE REPRESENTED AND THEY COME IN GOOD FAITH, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT UM. IF I GO TO THE SIMPLEST SOLUTION, AND I'M C FOUR GLASSES OF WATER. TWO OF THEM ARE FULL. ONE IN YOU KNOW, 22 AND FOUR FULL ONE IN THREE OR
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NOT. I'M TAKING THE WATER OUT OF ONE IN FOUR AND I'M POURING THEM IN. THE OTHER TWO AND EXCUSE ME TWO AND FOUR AND I'M POURING INTO ONE AND THREE. I'M NOT ADJUSTING THE WATER THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS AND THE GLASSES THAT ARE NOT FULL THAT ARE NOT EQUAL. THERE ARE LESS THAN SO IF WE BACK UP AND YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT ALL 209,000. PEOPLE IN THE CITY IS CONSTITUENTS IS NOT LARGE. BUT IF WE BACK UP AND SAY WHAT DOES THE LEAST DISRUPTION TO NOW? INDEED, THE ANSWER. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE SAYING THAT. DISTRICT TWO NEEDS TO HAVE ONE NEEDS TO COME INTO DISTRICT TWO AND TAKE ALL THAT. THAT FRONTAGE . THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I'M SAYING DISTRICT TWO NEEDS TO SHED CONSTITUENTS. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE THINKING YOU SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT DISTRICT TO NEEDS TO GET RID OF ALL THOSE PEOPLE ON THE 1 21 CORRIDOR. LET ME SAY WHAT I'M SAYING AGAIN. DISTRICT TWO NEEDS TO SHED CONSTITUENTS. DISTRICT FOUR NEEDS TO SHED CONSTITUENTS. DISTRICT THREE NEEDS CONSTITUENTS DISTRICT ONE NEEDS CONSTITUENTS. IT DOESN'T IT'S TWO AND THREE, OR D N R C N A DO THAT. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. TO POUR WATER OUT OF THREE GIVEN THAT IT NEEDS TO HAVE WATER ADDED TO IT. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING TO VALIDATE DISTRICT TO WHEN YOU IF YOU EVER RUN FOR DISTRICT TWO, THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO ANSWER THE VOTERS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR GOOD WITH THAT. I AM. I GUESS I'LL SAY SOMETHING SIMILAR TO CHARADE. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EVER. RUNNING FOR ANYTHING. I'M PROFOUNDLY GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THE TAXPAYERS AFFORDED ME, UM SMALL EDITORIAL COMMENT. IF YOU'D ASKED ME A YEAR AGO TODAY, WOULD I EVER HAVE THIS? HECK, NO MAN. HAD SOME HEALTH CONCERNS AND I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR THIS.BUT EVERY DAY I DO WHAT I THINK IS BEST FOR MCKINNEY. I MAY BE WRONG ON THIS. BUT THAT'S NOT WHERE I SEE IT, AND I THOUGHT ABOUT IT A LOT. EARLY. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? OH, TORRE. I'VE BEEN UP HERE FOR SIX YEARS, AND I'VE NEVER HAD A SINGLE VOTE THAT ONLY DEALT WITH ONE SINGLE DISTRICT. THAT EVERY ONE OF US IS VOTING FOR THE ENTIRE CITY OF MCKINNEY. I DO HAVE CONCERNS, HOWEVER, THAT ENLARGING DISTRICT ONE YOU GOT RIGHT HERE. YOUNG. YOU GOT THE HOSPITAL. YOU GOT TO WONDER, SAYS THE CONTROLS COMPANY FISHER CONTROLS AND NOW YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THIS ENTIRE SECTION. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE OUR ENTIRE 90% OF OUR COMMERCIAL TAX BASE IS GOING TO BE IN DISTRICT ONE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOOD, MY BIGGEST ISSUE WITH IT, AND WHEN I LOOK AT IT, AND I SEE WHAT THEY DREW ON DISTRICT A AND APPLYING MY LOGIC THAT WE'VE NEVER VOTED ON JUST ONE DISTRICT. UH THAT THESE DISTRICTS ONLY APPLY WHEN IT COMES TO ELECTION TIME. AND I THINK IT'S BEST A IS SIMPLY MORE HOMOGENEOUS, AND IT'S PRETTIER TO LOOK AT. BECAUSE IT DIVIDES THE SECTION IN THE FOUR EASILY DEFINE DOUBLE SESSIONS, AND THEY'RE RELATIVELY EVENLY DIVIDED. AND IT DOESN'T CAUSE THE PROBLEM OF ALL OF YOUR MAJOR TAXPAYERS BEING IN I THINK IT'S RELATIVELY EASY SOLUTION, BUT OVERALL, I THINK WE'RE ARGUING ABOUT NOT A WHOLE LOT. BECAUSE NONE OF US ARE EVER GOING TO LOOK FOR SOMETHING FOR DISTRICT FOR SOMETHING FOR DISTRICT ONE.
WE'RE GOING TO VOTE FOR THE ENTIRE CITY OF MCKINNEY. THIS WILL ONLY MATTER WHEN IT COMES TO ELECTIONS. I DON'T THINK IT'S WISE TO PUT ALL YOUR TAXPAYERS YOUR BIG TAXPAYERS IN ONE DISTRICT, AND SO I WOULD SUPPORT THIS MAP. A THANK YOU FOR ASKING. VERY WELL, SAID MR PHILLIPS. UM I AGREE WITH MAP A UM EVERYBODY HAS TO GIVE UP SOMETHING. UM I'VE ALWAYS BEEN WILLING TO GIVE SOMETHING OUT OF FOUR. APPRECIATE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT SUPPORTED ME. UH BUT THESE ARE TOUGH DECISIONS. UM. IT CAN BE VERY CONTROVERSIAL AND YOU KNOW HARD FEELINGS. I HOPE THERE'S NO HARD FEELINGS AFTER THIS IS ALL OVER. UM CHARLIE'S RIGHT. WE REPRESENT THE WHOLE CITY MCKINNEY AND THAT'S I THINK THAT'S THE WAY EVERYBODY UP HERE LOOKS AT IT. AND I WOULDN'T PUT SOMETHING IN SOMEBODY ELSE'S DISTRICT THAT THE CITIZENS DIDN'T WANT. OR THE REPRESENTATIVE DIDN'T WANT SO A MAKES MORE SENSE TO ME. THE MAYOR, WE HAVE A MOTION. YEAH.
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MARKET QUESTION. DO WE NEED TO HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING ON A SINCE IT'S NEVER BEEN PRESENTED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IT WAS PRESENTED. WAS THE INITIAL MAP. IT WAS NOT IN THE PUBLIC HEARING THE NIGHT WE HAD THE TWO MAPS, SO GUNNAR WOULD PROBABLY SAY YES. THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO INCLUDE ALL THREE MAPS. IF I PAY. I MEAN, THERE'S NOT BEEN A MOTION FOR MAP A BUT IT WAS THE MOTION WAS FOR D RIGHT, BUT JUST TO HAVE SOME FOUR THINKING IF THAT MOTION DOES NOT PASS. THERE IS NOT AN ABILITY TO MOVE TO TAKE AN EGG. YOU'VE TAKEN D OFF THE TABLE. AND YOU ONLY HAVE C N A IF HMM. NO THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SAYING. I'D LIKE TO IF WE WITH THIS MOTION DOESN'T PASS. I'D LIKE TO RESEARCH LET ME CALL GUNNER. AND ASK HIM TECHNICALLY, IF THAT HAS TO PROCEDURALLY BE DONE. AFTER THIS MOTION IS CONSIDERED. RIGHT THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. MOTION DOES NOT PASS. I'LL MAKE THE MOTIONS.WELL, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO WITH THAT WE APPROVE A OKAY. BUT IF BUT IF YOU CAN ALWAYS MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE A AND IF YOU FIND OUT THAT IT'S WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING, THEN WE'LL DO SOMETHING. IF NOT, WE HAVEN'T WE HAVE A DECISION? I THINK THAT'S THE WAY WE SHOULD OPERATE. MARK LEGALLY. WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? YOU ADVISE US. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL GUNNER AND SEE WHAT HE HAS.
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District and “REC” - Regional Employment Center Overlay District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to Modify the Development Standards and to Allow for Single Family Residential and Commercial Uses, Located on the Northwest Corner of McKinney Ranch Parkway and Silverado Trail, and Accompanying Ordinance]
LET'S LET'S MOVE TO ANOTHER AND WE'LL COME BACK TO IT. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM 21007 TUESDAY TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ACT AND REQUEST TO REZONE SUBJECT PROPERTY PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT CENTER OVERLAY DISTRICT TO PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT GENERAL TO MODIFY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND ALLOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES. LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER, MCKINNEY RANCH PARKWAY AND SILVERADO TRAIL. JENNIFER THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. IF YOU'LL GIVE ME JUST ONE SECOND, I'VE GOT A FEW HANDOUTS.ALRIGHT SO, AS YOU READ, THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY GENERALLY GENERALLY AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF MCKINNEY RANCH PARKWAY AND SILVERADO TRAIL FROM PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO PD PLAYING DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THE TRACK ITSELF IS ABOUT 9.6 ACRES IN SIZE, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF TOWN HOMES AND COMMERCIAL USES ON THE TRACT. CURRENTLY THE ZONING ON THE PROPERTY WOULD ALLOW FOR A VARIETY OF RETAIL OFFICE AND SOME LIVE WORK USES ON THE TRACKS. WITH THE REQUEST, THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO CLEAN UP THE, UH, THE ZONING TO ALLOW FOR MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD DEVELOPMENT OF TOWN HOME USES, WHICH WOULD ALLOW I'VE GOT THAT CONCEPT PLAN APPROXIMATELY EIGHT DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE THEY ARE REQUESTING FOR THE TOWN HOME COMPONENTS. SOME MODIFICATIONS TO OUR STANDARDS AS WELL AS SOME MODIFIED LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS. THESE ARE ALL IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'VE SEEN HISTORICALLY, WHEN TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENTS COME ONLINE. AS WITH THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT OR THE COMMERCIAL ALLOWANCES, THEY ARE REQUESTING TO FOLLOW OUR C TWO LOCAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT WITH A HEIGHT RESTRICTION OF 35 FT, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WOULD BE LIMITED TO A ONE STORY RETAIL DEVELOPMENT. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST. WE DO NOTE THAT IT IS NOT IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH DESIGNATES THE PROPERTY FOR COMMERCIAL CENTER. HOWEVER YOU CAN SEE THE SHAPE OF THE PROPERTY IS A BIT AWKWARD AND WE DO SEE THAT THAT COULD BE LIMITING FOR LARGE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE TRACKS. WE FEEL THAT THE REQUEST TO INTRODUCE TOWN HOMES AND POSSIBLY SOME COMMERCIAL USES PROVIDES A REALLY GOOD TRANSITION AND COMPATIBLE COMPATIBLE E SCALED RESIDENTIAL TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE NORTH. AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ALSO CONSIDERED THE ITEM AND IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AS WELL. I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT IN YOUR STAFF REPORTS ARE INCLUDED WITH THE ITEM, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A CONCEPT PLAN. THIS IS INFORMATIONAL ONLY, UM, BASED ON THAT CONCEPT PLAN. WE DID GET A LETTER OF CONCERN FROM THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH TO THE NORTHEAST. RIGHT HERE. TO THE NORTHEAST. THERE ARE TWO PRIMARY
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CONCERNS IN THE LETTER THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET OR ONE OF THE POTENTIAL COMPATIBILITY OF COMMERCIAL USES IN FRONT OF THEIR CHURCH PROPERTY AND TO CONCERNS ABOUT A DIRECT CONNECTION ONTO MCKINNEY RANCH PARKWAY. SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE IS THERE IS A FIRE LANE STUBBED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT CHURCH PROPERTY INTO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. IT IS THE CHURCH'S DESIRE TO HAVE THAT FIRE LANE STUFF ALL THE WAY OUT DIRECTLY TO MCKINNEY RANCH PARKWAY, AND THEY ARE CONCERNED THAT THE CONCEPT PLAN SHOWN COULD IMPACT THAT ABILITY TO HAVE THAT DIRECT CONNECTION ON THEIR PROPERTY. THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN TO REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CHURCH , AND THEY HAVE INCLUDED WITH THE PACKET TONIGHT OR WHAT I HANDED OUT TO ALL TONIGHT SOME ALTERNATIVE ALTERNATIVE CONCEPT PLANS AGAIN. THESE ARE INFORMATIONAL ONLY AND NOT TIED DOWN. STAFF DOES NOTE THAT THERE IS THAT FIRE LANE ON THE CHURCH PROPERTY AND WE HAVE GONE BACK AND LOOKED THROUGH FLOODING HISTORY SITE PLANNING HISTORY ON BOTH THE CHURCH PROPERTY AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. WE DON'T FIND ANY, UM ANY EVIDENCE OR ANY DOCUMENTATION TO PRESERVE THAT FIRE LANE CONNECTION DOWN HERE. ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, SO WITH THAT OUR REQUEST TO THE APPLICANT WAS TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE CHURCH TO FIND A COMPROMISE. HOWEVER AT THIS STAGE FOR ZONING, WE ARE ONLY LOOKING AT THE LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, AS IS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION NOW APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. SO THIS IS A, UM, AN OWNER PRODUCTS SO THEY'RE SELLING THESE PRODUCTS IS NOT A RENT PRODUCT. CORRECT IT WOULD BE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED. SO IN THE EYES OF OUR ZONING ORDINANCE , THAT WOULD BE AN OWNERSHIP PRODUCT THAT'S CORRECT FOR SALE OR FOR RENT. HAVE TO DEFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT, BUT AND ARE IT'S A FEE SIMPLE PRODUCT, WHICH FOR US IS SINGLE FAMILY. SO.YOUR DESCRIPTION OF COMMERCIAL IS VERY GENEROUS, SAYING THAT THEY JUST GOT THIS TINY LITTLE BUILDING AND WHEN YOU SAY SOME COMMERCIAL AND NOW IT'S JUST ONE LITTLE BUILDING, SO THAT'S ZONING ACTUALLY ALLOWS FOR TOWN HOMES OR COMMERCIAL. UM SO THIS CONCEPT PLAN IS JUST A CONCEPT PLANETS INFORMATIONAL, AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT AS A TINY NUGGET OF COMMERCIALS SHOWN ON THIS CONCEPT PLAN, QUITE FRANKLY, WHEN THEY COME IN TO DEVELOP. THEY COULD DEVELOP THE ENTIRE TRACK FOR COMMERCIAL IF THEY DESIRE TO DO SO. OR THEY COULD DEVELOP THE ENTIRE TRACK FOR TOWN HOMES. THERE IS NO REQUIRED SPLIT BETWEEN THAT REZ AND NON RAISED PRODUCT. IT'S SORT OF A FLEXIBLE ZONING IN THAT WAY. SO THIS MADE THAT THAT RETAIL BOX THAT YOU SEE ON THIS ILLUSTRATION MAY OR MAY NOT ACTUALLY DEVELOP ON THE TRACT. YEAH. I DON'T SEE THAT AS A VIABLE RETAIL LOCATION KIND OF MID BLOCK AND YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE SOME PROBLEMS BECAUSE YOU GOTTA INLET THAT'S COMING. THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A LIGHT THERE IS THERE. I DON'T BELIEVE SO. OKAY? I JUST DON'T SEE IT ALSO. I SEE THIS, IT SAYS TRASH WITH SCREENING. THAT SEEMS LIKE IT'S WAY FAR AWAY FROM ALL THESE. I MEAN, ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE INDIVIDUAL PICK UP THERE OR IS OR IS EVERYBODY SUPPOSED TO HAUL THEIR TRASH OVER TO THE TO THE FAR EAST HERE AND FOR SINGLE FAMILY PRODUCTS ARE NORMALLY DEALING WITH INDIVIDUAL TOTERS ON YOUR INDIVIDUAL UNIT? JUST OKAY. COMMERCIAL. THAT'S JUST THE COMMERCIAL, OKAY? I'M NOT IMPRESSED WITH THE PROJECT.
JENNIFER ON EXHIBIT TO SAY, SAY IT, SAYS ST ANDREWS EXPANSION. UPON THE NORTH SIDE THAT APPEARS TO BE AN ANTICIPATED EXPANSION. AND THE REASON IT APPEARS TO BE THERE IS TO GIVE US A VIEW OF WHERE THAT IS RELATIVE TO THE COMMERCIAL. IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? CAN YOU WHEN YOU SAY EXHIBIT TWO? CAN YOU MCKINNEY RANCH PROXIMITY EXHIBIT TWO. THIS IS THE THIRD PAGE OF THE HANDOUT. I GOT YOU. THAT'S OKAY. I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU HAD ONE.
OKAY, I'LL GIVE YOU A MOMENT TO LOOK. BUT IF YOU LOOK UP THERE'S A TRIANGLE THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT TRIANGLE AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SHOW US. AND I THINK WHAT IS TRYING TO SHOW US IS WHAT IS THE JUST THE COMMERCIAL BLOCK. THE PLANNED EXPANSION THAT DOESN'T EXIST YET OF SAINT AND I JUST WONDER WHAT I LOOK AT, BUT I'M LOOKING AT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY AND HOW MANY SQUARE FEET WITH THIS COMMERCIALLY 5000. SO THAT'S NOT ALL THAT I MEAN. I KNOW IT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID, BUT THAT'S NOT A LOT IS I'LL ASK MY OTHER QUESTION TO THE APPLICANTS. SO THANK YOU. HE WOULD HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. NOT LIKE THE APPLICANT TO COME UP DAVID CALIPER. DID I SAY IT RIGHT? GOOD EVENING, MR MAYOR
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MEMBERS COUNCIL CITY MANAGER. MY NAME IS DAVID, CALIF. FOR WITH PELOTON LAND SOLUTIONS OF 11,000 FRISCO STREET. SUITE 400. FRISCO, TEXAS, 75033 TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF COMMENTS FIRST. UM, THAT IS PROBABLY MORE LIKELY TO BE A COMMERCIAL USE THAT OUR RETAIL USE. UM WE CANNOT GET TOWN HOMES OVER THERE. ONE THE ALLEY THAT'S REQUIRED BEHIND THE TOWN HOMES. WE COULD NOT DEPOSIT THAT OUT ONTO MCKINNEY RANCH BOULEVARD. SO THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT, AND WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO USE A MAJORITY OF THE TRACT THAT WE CAN'T WE'VE PARKED IT FOUR OR 5000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS A RETAIL USE, BUT ANY OTHER USES SUCH AS, SAY, OFFICE OR COMMERCIAL THAT REQUIRES LESS PARKING. WE'VE WE'VE ACCOMMODATED FOR THAT. THE TRASH RECEPTACLE IS FOR THAT LOCATION ONLY UM, WE PUT IT THERE FOR EASE OF THE TRUCK TO PULL IN BACK OUT WITHOUT INTERRUPTION AND THEN PULL BACK ON THE MCKINNEY RANCH. SO THE WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF WE SUBMITTED THIS LAST APRIL. AND WE WORKED WITH STAFF FOR WELL OVER A YEAR.TO GET TO THIS POINT. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL ITERATIONS OF BOTH COMBINATION OF TOWN HOME.
COMMERCIAL. BUT DUE TO SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH DRIVEWAY LENGTH SETBACKS, THINGS LIKE THAT. MY CLIENT FELT THE BEST WAY TO APPROACH THIS IS LET'S JUST DO ALL TOWN HOME. SPORTS SALE UNITS. UM, WE HAVE DEDICATED RIGHT AWAY ACROSS THE FRONT. AND WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL. UM SMALL COMMERCIAL RETAIL PAD RIGHT THERE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO WHEN WE RECEIVED THE LETTER OF CONCERN FROM FROM OUR PLANNING STAFF. UM WE IMMEDIATELY SPENT MOST OF THE DAY FRIDAY, FIGURING OUT HOW CAN WE ACCOMMODATE THAT CONNECTION STRAIGHT DOWN? AND WHAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR EXHIBIT. UM THE CONCEPT REVISED CONCEPT PLAN WE'RE SHOWING JUST THAT WE HAVE A 30 FT DRIVE COMING OFF OF DEDICATED RIGHT AWAY. THAT GOES STRAIGHT INTO THEIR FIRE LANE. SO THE IMAGES UM, THAT WERE IN THAT LETTER OF CONCERN. SOME OF THE EXHIBITS THAT SHOW THAT SORT OF J TRIPE TYPE DRIVE. WE HAVE ACCOMMODATED THAT WITH THAT CONCEPT PLAN. UM. MORE THAN LIKELY THIS WILL BE THE CONCEPT THAT WILL BE BUILT. BECAUSE WE STRUGGLED WITH THE USES WE CAN PUT ON HERE. THE NUMBER OF UNITS , THIS MAKES FINANCIAL SENSE FOR OUR CLIENT. UM, WE ARE NOT.
DON'T YOU KNOW BUILDINGS? ONE STORY. 100 FT. LONG 50 FT WIDE WE DON'T FEEL THAT WE WILL BLOG.
THE CHURCH. FROM VISIBILITY WE SHOWED ON THERE. ONE OF THE EXHIBITS. THEY HAVE APPROXIMATELY 410 FT OF FRONTAGE. LOVE. NOW GRANTED IS ACROSS OUR PROPERTY. BUT ALONG MARTINI RANCH BOULEVARD, THERE'S ROUGHLY 410 FT. VISIBILITY BACK TO THEIR SITE. UM THE CORNER OF OUR BUILDING IS ROUGHLY 390 FT FROM THE CORNER OF THEIR EXISTING BUILDING. AND YOU ARE CORRECT. SOME OF THE EXHIBITS WE SAW ON THE LETTER OF CONCERN. THEY SHOWED EXPANSION TO THAT SIDE, SO WE MIMIC THAT AND SO AS WELL AS TO THE BACK, WHICH LOOKS LIKE IT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.
SO WE STRUGGLED WITH THIS SITE, UM, WORKED WITH STAFF. WE HAVE SCREEN WALLS ALONG THE FRONT OPEN SPACES. AND, UH, AS FAR AS THE STREET TREES GO, WE'RE MEETING THE AUDITS THERE. AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL. SO SHE THOUGHT IT WAS A FOUR CELL PRODUCT. IT IS SO THIS IS THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE WITH WITH. WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS JUST IN THAT AREA. THAT'S THAT'S ALL HOMES. I MEAN, IN APARTMENTS GALORE AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND, UM SO. I THINK YOU'RE TO ME. I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING MORE COMMERCIAL ON THERE. VERSUS JUST MORE HOUSES, AND IT MAY VERY WELL BE UM BECAUSE THE WAY THE PD WILL BE WRITTEN IS IT ALLOWS US TO DO COMMERCIAL AND IF HE HAS A BUYER THAT COMES ALONG AND WANTS TO DO COMMERCIAL THERE HE'LL PROBABLY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. BUT FROM RIGHT NOW, THIS ONLY BEING A CONCEPT THIS IS WHAT OUR BEST USE ON HERE. IT'S A GOOD TRANSITION FROM THE MULTI FAMILY ACROSS THE STREET. WE HAVE A 50 FT GAS EASEMENT TO THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OVER THERE. UM WE'RE NOT IMPACTING THEM. WE'RE THE SAME HEIGHT. APPROXIMATELY 50 PLUS ANOTHER 30 FT, PLUS SETBACKS. WE'RE ALMOST 100 FT.
AWAY FROM THEM. IT'S A LARGE GAS EASEMENT 50 FT. WE HAVE A GRANT. WE HAVE A BOTH A DRAINAGE. ANNA ELECTRICAL IS NOT BACK THERE WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH AT SOME POINT. WHAT'S FOR THE ENGINEER TO WORRY ABOUT, UM AND THEN ALONG THE FRONT, WE HAVE A 20 FT. SETBACK ON BOTH SIDES, SO
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WE'RE STUCK WITH THESE MEDIAN OPENINGS THAT ARE EXISTING. WE'VE TRIED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN BELIEVE ME, I WORKED ON. 20 OR 30 PLANTS, TRYING TO GET THIS TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE AGREED WITH STAFF BOTH PLANNING AND ENGINEERING. TO GET TO THIS POINT HERE, SO WE HAVE OPEN SPACE AGAIN. YEAH. SO. MS CALVARY SAID SOMETHING THAT RAISED A CONCERN FOR ME IF WE APPROVED THIS TONIGHT THIS IS WHAT WILL BE BUILT RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT WELL, THE ULTIMATELY COMMERCIAL BABY BUILT ALL OVER HERE. IF WE APPROVE THIS TODAY'S IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET, WELL ASK, MISS ARNOLD SAID. THEY COULD GO EITHER OR IT COULD GO BACK. THIS IS JUST THE CONCEPT. IT'S NOT PART OF THE ORDINANCE, HOWEVER. THIS IS WHAT MY CLIENT IS LEANING TOWARDS. THIS THIS CONCEPT? WELL THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WE HANDED OUT WITH THE REVISED DRIVE. THAT IS THE ONE HE'S LEANING TOWARDS. THIS TOWN HOME. I'M NOT. I'M I'M NOT CLEAR THEN I'M WON'T HE? THEY COULD SAY WE WANT TO DO THIS. WE COULD APPROVE IT AND THEN THEY COULD NOT DO THIS. AND DO A COMMERCIAL PRODUCT WE COULD, BUT WE DO HAVE TO COME BACK WITH WITH SITE PLAN. SO THE CURRENT ZONE ON THIS BACK WHEN IT WAS DONE IN 2000 WAS PART OF THAT. IS STILL MIXED. USE RETAIL THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT IS BECAUSE NOBODY IS DOING LIVE WORK TOWN HOMES ANYMORE. WE HAVE TO CHANGE IT TO ALLOW TOWN HOMES STRAIGHT UP BE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES. THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT. WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANY OF THAT. SO LET'S IT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT OKAY, SO I LOVE THE TOWN HOMES FOR SALE. I LOVE IT THAT SAID, THOUGH. DO YOU CONTROL? DOES YOUR COMPANY CONTROL WHO THE TENANT IS OF THAT PROPOSED 5000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL. NO, SIR. I'M THE CONSULTANT FOR THE OWNER. OKAY? HE WILL HE'LL ENTERTAIN OFFERS FOR IT. OKAY TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. THAT'S WHY WE WENT BACK ON FRIDAY. AND REVAMPED OUR SITE PLAN. SO THE QUESTION I'M GOING TO ASK. I'M NOT EVEN SURE IT CAN BE DONE SO, BUT I'M GONNA ASK IT. THIS IS A CHURCH UP THERE TO THE NORTH, AND THERE'S CERTAIN BUSINESSES THAT JUST REALLY OR NOT APPROPRIATE TO HAVE NEAR A CHURCH. THEY MIGHT BE LEGAL TO PUT THERE. BUT, MAN, THEY DON'T THE RIGHT THING. TO PUT THERE WOULD MAYBE IT'S NOT FAIR TO ASK YOU THIS. BUT WOULD THE OWNER BE RECEPTIVE TO CODIFYING CERTAIN BUSINESSES THAT CAN'T BE LEAST THERE WITH THE LIST? OKAY HERE BY THEM.THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW, THOUGH. HOW THAT WOULD JENNIFER. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY DO THAT ON THE FLY IN THIS MOTION, CORRECT. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD HAVE ANY. WOULD WE HAVE THAT AUTHORITY JUST ON A SITE PLAN REVIEW? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD PLANS UNLESS THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR SOMETHING LIKE SCREENING. UM THEN THOSE ARE MINISTERIAL, SO THOSE ARE APPROVED AT THE STAFF LEVEL. UM I HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH REPRESENTATIVES. UM AND I DO. I HAVE HEARD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT DIFFERENT KINDS OF COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES. THAT MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE IN FRONT OF A CHURCH. THAT IS, THOSE BUSINESSES ARE ALLOWED IN ANY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT RIGHT NOW AREN'T DESIGNATED, AS, SAY, A SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESS. IT IS JUST SEEN AS A RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT THE SAME WAY IT WOULD BE SEEN IN ANY OTHER COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT IN THE CITY. SO IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LIMITING THOSE ESTABLISHMENTS, THOSE WOULD BE TENANTS SPECIFIC, AND I CERTAINLY WISH HAUSER WERE SITTING RIGHT HERE TO ADVISE US A LITTLE BIT ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS EVEN SOMETHING THE CITY WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO VIA ZONING. JENNIFER CURRENTLY THEY HAVE A COMMERCIAL YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL ALLOWANCES COULD BE THERE ANYWAY. COULD BE THERE ANYWAY. SO I THINK I JUST WANT TO SET EXPECTATIONS. PROPERLY THAT WE'RE NOT IF THERE COULDN'T BE A MOTION THAT TO CODIFY USES AND USES. AT THIS POINT, THIS WOULD BE A STRAIGHT VOTE ON THE ON THE REQUESTED, UNDERSTAND, SIR. UH OH. ZONING COMMERCIAL, OR IS IT A E. THE CURRENT. THE CURRENT ZONING IS THE P D. THAT FOLLOWS THE REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT CENTER. OUR EC SCHEDULE OF USES , AND THAT IS A PRETTY BROAD LIST OF ALLOWED USES, SO IT DOES ALLOW FOR RETAIL AND OFFICE AND SOME LIVE WORK. UM AS ACCESSORY OR SECONDARY TO RETAIL AND OFFICE. AND SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON FOR THE REQUEST OF REZONE IS AH, THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO MARKET OR SELL THE PROJECT FOR TOWN HOMES BE SIMPLE, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ONLY WITHOUT THAT REQUIREMENT FOR THE LIVE WORK TO BE SECONDARY TO COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS WHAT THE CURRENT ZONING WOULD REQUIRE, JENNIFER JUST TO BE SURE THEY IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS THEY COULD NOT COME
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IN AND BUILD FOR RENT PRODUCT. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE SINGLE FAMILY. THAT IS CORRECT. YES WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND GET APPROVAL FOR A FOUR ROOM PRODUCT. YES THAT'S CORRECT. FOR US. THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED MULTI FAMILY. UM SO FOR THIS SINGLE UNIT, SINGLE LOT SINGLE FAMILY, UM, IS WHAT WE LOOK AT. NOW. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE ZONING ORDINANCE DOES NOT LOOK AT OWNERSHIP. WE DON'T GOVERN OWNERSHIP VERSUS RENTAL. WE'RE LOOKING AT AS LONG AS IT IS ONE UNIT ON ONE LOT. THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER A SINGLE FAMILY UNIT. THE BEST WE CAN DO. WE CAN'T CONTROL WHO WHO BUYS THEM UP IF THAT'S THE CASE. THE QUESTIONS FOR JENNIFER. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. I DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE SCHEDULED TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK, MR MARTIN SANCHEZ. WHAT'S THAT? IF IT'S OKAY BEFORE I GO. YEAH THERE'S BE GLAD TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.LOGAN HURST. GOOD EVENING MAYOR FULLER MAYOR PRO TIM ROGERS, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL CITY MANAGER, GRIMES DEPARTMENT HEADS AND STAFF. FELLOW CITIZENS OF THE GREAT CITY OF MCKINNEY. MY NAME IS DEACON LOGAN HEARST, ONE OF THE CLERGY MEMBERS OF ST ANDREWS EPISCOPAL CHURCH IN THE EPISCOPAL DIOCESE OF DALLAS, LOCATED AT 6400 MCKINNEY RANCH PARKWAY. ST ANDREWS IS AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER TO THE PROPOSED ZONING CASE. 21-0072. TWO FOR PROPERTY AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF SILVERADO TRAIL AND MCKINNEY RANCH PARKWAY. ST ANDREWS HAS HAS A LONG HISTORY OF COMMITMENT TO WORKING PRODUCTIVELY WITH OUR NEIGHBORS AT THIS CORNER, AND WE PLAN TO CONTINUE THAT HISTORY WITH OUR NEW NEIGHBORS. I AM HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE CHURCH TO ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THIS PROPOSED ZONING CASE ON ST ANDREW'S ABILITY TO FULLY AND SAFELY DEVELOP OUR PROPERTY IN FUTURE YEARS. SPECIFICALLY WE TAKE EXCEPTION TO A PORTION OF THE APPLICANTS CONCEPT PLAN SHOWING THAT THE NORTH TO SOUTH FIRE LANE ENDING AT OUR PROPERTY LINE DOES NOT DIRECTLY CONNECT TO THE EXISTING CURB CUT OUT ON MCKINNEY RANCH PARK. UPON OUR SIGHT DURING THE CHURCH'S DEVELOPMENT PHASE, STARTING BACK IN 2009 THROUGH 2011. DURING THIS PLANNING PROCESS IN EAST WEST FIRE LANE RUNNING TO THE WESTERN END OF OUR PROPERTY AND THEN TURNING SOUTH FOR FUTURE CONNECTION ONTO MCKINNEY RIDGE PARKWAY WAS A KEY CONCERN. THE ISSUE THEN, AS NOW WAS ALL ABOUT SAFETY, CIRCULATION AND CROSS ACCESS BACK THEN. WE WORK TOGETHER WITH THE CITY OVER 10 YEARS AGO TO LOCATE FUTURE FIRE LANES ON OUR SITE PLAN FOR THE SAFETY OF THOSE WHO USE OUR PROPERTY. THIS GROUP INCLUDES OUR MEMBERS AND PARISHIONERS, BUT ALSO OUR NEIGHBORS WHO GET FOOD AT THE FOOD PANTRY OR PLAY BASKETBALL IN OUR BASKETBALL COURT OR BRING THEIR KIDS TO OUR PLAYGROUND. WE UNDERSTAND THAT A ZONING CASE DOES NOT DICTATE THE EXACT LOCATION OF IMPROVEMENTS LIKE ROADS AND FIRE LANES, BUT THIS PROCESS IS THE MOST VIABLE OPPORTUNITY FOR ST ANDREWS TO EFFECTIVELY VOICE AND ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF OUR PARISHIONERS. ONCE THE ZONING IS APPROVED, THE DEVELOPER ONLY HAS TO MEET THE CURRENT SITE PLAN AND PLANNING REGULATIONS. WE WILL HAVE NO REAL VOICE TO REQUEST MODIFICATIONS. LET ME CONCLUDE BY SAYING ST ANDREWS IS A CHURCH DOES NOT OPPOSE THE PROPOSED REZONING OF THIS SITE TO ALLOW TOWN HOMES. IN FACT, WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING NEIGHBORS AND POSSIBLY FUTURE PARISHIONERS LIVING NEARBY. I HOPE AND PRAY THAT WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER, WE CAN GET THIS ISSUE RESOLVED NOW. WE ASK THAT THE CITY NOT ONLY RESPECT ITS OWN DECISIONS AND GUIDANCE FROM THE PAST. BUT WHAT ALSO CODIFIED THOSE EXCEPTIONS FOR FIRE LANE ACCESS AS PART OF THIS SPECIFIC ZONING CASE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION. THANK YOU. BEFORE I CALLED UP NEXT PERSON.
JENNIFER, IF I COULD ASK A QUESTION THE FIRE LINE DISCUSSION. CERTAINLY I SEE THAT IT'S NOT ACCOMMODATED ON THE CONCEPT PLAN ON THE SCREEN, BUT IT IS ACCOMMODATED. I BELIEVE ON THE HANDOUTS. CORRECT THE HANDOUT THAT WAS PROVIDED SHIFTS THAT RETAIL BUILDING JUST SLIGHTLY AND TRIES TO MAKE, UH, DO TWO THINGS. ONE NOT LIMITED VISIBILITY OF POTENTIAL EXPANSION OF THE CHURCH. BUT ALSO MAYBE MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A DIRECT CONNECTION OF THAT FIRE LANE EXTENSION DOWN TO MAKE ANY RANCH. DEPARTMENT BE OKAY WITH THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS REVIEWED IT. AND THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THIS IS JUST AN INFORMATIONAL CONCEPT PLAN. THERE'S BEEN VERY HIGH LEVEL LOOKS TOO. SAY, HEY, THIS SMELL TEST. BUT WE'RE NOT ABOUT DIMENSIONS AND RADIO. AT THIS POINT TO BE ABLE TO KNOW THAT. OKAY? MR SANCHEZ. USED TO MOVE AROUND A LOT FASTER TO SERVE
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HAVE BEEN ON THE TRACTOR FOR TWO WEEKS. AND THIS IS THE FIRST DAY WITHOUT A CANE. SO WELL DONE.SO, MR MAYOR, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL MARTIN SANCHEZ. TODAY I WOULD PLEASE RECOGNIZED 26 0 TO SARATOGA BECAUSE I'M SPEAKING TO YOU AS A PARISHIONER. I'M NOT SPEAKING TO YOU AS MY NORMAL SELF AS A CONSULTANT HERE. VERY VERY BRIEFLY. LET ME JUST GIVE YOU SOME 10 YEAR. FACTS ON THIS.
UM BACK IN 2009 2010 11 WHEN WE BROUGHT IN ST ANDREW'S CHURCH, WE HAD A SERIES OF CONVERSATIONS QUITE FRANKLY DEBATES, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF A PROPERTY THAT LIVES RIGHT THERE. AND THAT IS A CITY OF FRISCO, OLD CITY OF FRISCO WATER PUMP STATION. BECAUSE OF THAT WHEN WE PLANTED THIS PROPERTY WE ACTUALLY PROPOSED FOUR DIFFERENT LAYOUTS TO THE ST ANDREW'S CHURCH, ALL OF WHICH WERE SOME MERELY DISAPPROVED BY STAFF. BECAUSE WE HAD TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THAT PROPERTY. AND THE ONLY WAY TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THAT PROPERTY IS BY DOING THIS AND THEN DOING THIS AND THEN PROVIDING ACCESS TO A FUTURE SCHOOL EXPANSION, ETCETERA. MR HAUSER MAY REMEMBER THIS. I'M NOT SURE IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME THERE WE'VE AGED SINCE THEN. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THIS WAS FORCED UPON THE CHURCH. THIS WAS NOT THEIR FIRST DESIGN. IN FACT, THE FIRST DESIGN WAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. ULTIMATELY WE SETTLED ON THIS DESIGN BECAUSE OF THESE REQUIREMENTS, AND THE REQUIREMENTS WERE SUCH THAT THAT PROPERTY WAS GOING TO ACCESS. AT THAT POINT, IT MADE SENSE. PART OF THIS WAS PREDICATED WHEN WE MOVED THE ALIGNMENT OF OLD FM 7 20. WE BENT IT IN THE CREATED THESE KIND OF NEW MEDIA OPEN IT. SO THAT'S I THINK THE FIRST BIG TECHNICAL ISSUE OF WHERE THE CHURCH IS COMING FROM. THE CHURCH IS COMING FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF HEY, WE WERE FORCED TO DO ALL THIS STUFF. YOU TOLD US TO DO ALL THIS STUFF. WE DID ALL THIS STUFF AND NOW YOU'RE TELLING US OH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS STUFF THAT'S KIND OF A COMPLICATED SITUATION.
ESPECIALLY WITH THE CHURCH. THEY'RE NOT DEVELOPERS THERE. THEY CAN'T CHANGE ON A WHIM.
THEY SET THESE PARAMETERS DECADES IN ADVANCE. SECONDLY, WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU REALLY COMES DOWN TO. I THINK SOME OF YOU DISCUSSED. THIS IS YOU'VE GOT A SITE HERE, POTENTIALLY COMMERCIAL RETAIL. AT WHAT EFFECTIVELY IS THE FRONT OF THE CHURCH. AND LET'S JUST SAY IT AS RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS GO MY CLIENT, OR RATHER, THE PROPOSED THE DEVELOPER CANNOT TELL YOU WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE. BUT LET ME TELL YOU WHAT IT CAN BE, BUT IT CAN BE AS A VAPE SHOP.
ECONOMIES TO GO, SARAH. SECRET AND DOT DOT DOT LET'S JUST FILL IN THE BLANKS. I'M NOT DISPARAGING ANY OF THOSE USES. WHAT I AM SAYING IS IN FRONT OF A CHURCH. IS THAT REALLY THE RIGHT THING. ULTIMATELY ZONING IS THE ONLY PLACE WE CAN DISCUSS THIS ISSUE. WE DON'T DISCUSS IT NOW. IT ENDS UP IN SIGHT, PLANNING AND PLANTING. THOSE RULES ARE WHAT THEY ARE.
CONTINUE. THANK YOU, SIR. SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE AS A PARISHIONER. WERE WE WELCOME THE TOWN HOMES. THAT'S NOT THE CHALLENGER. THE REAL ISSUE IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE ACCESS.
AND THEN THAT USE AT THAT CORNER. IN FRONT OF YOUR CHURCH. I MEAN, YEAH, I'M NOT GONNA SAY IT. BUT I'M GONNA SAY IT. MR RAY MR ROGERS. I MEAN, COUNCILMAN PHILLIPS. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT IN FRONT OF YOUR CHURCH? SO ULTIMATELY, IT'S A ZONING ISSUE. IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS. I'M NOT GOING TO PICK UP. WHAT ABOUT MY CHURCH CHURCH? OH BECAUSE WHY WE'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT MINE THE CHURCH OF THE GUITAR AND I CAN'T SO WITH THAT? LOOK, YOUR TIME IS UP, SIR. WE'LL TELL YOU THIS ALL KIDNEY SIDE, SIR. MR CALIPER RIGHT HERE. STAND UP GRADE A GUY. IN FACT, DAVID AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER FOR 20. SOME ODD YEARS. WHEN I WAS IN GRADUATE SCHOOL, HE WAS GETTING HIS DEGREE IN LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE, AND I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST GUYS TO RIP HIS DESIGN BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DID IN GRADUATE SCHOOL. I HE'S A ONE GUY. THAT'S NOT THE POINT. THE POINT IS TRULY WERE IN THE MICRO AND IN THE MICRO. THE ONLY PLACE WE CAN DEAL WITH IT IS IT SOUNDS BECAUSE IT'S A DISCRETIONARY. THIS IS WHERE YOU GUYS GUIDE YOUR FUTURE. I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION. I MEAN, SO WHAT IS THE REMEDY FOR RIGHT HERE? I MEAN, YOU SAY, OH, WE DID ALL THIS AND
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WE MOVED EVERYTHING WE DID ALL THIS. I MEAN, THERE IS NO REMEDY. RIGHT I MEAN, SO I MEAN, ALL YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE SAYING HEY, WE COMPLIED AND WE DIDN'T REALLY GET WHAT WE WANTED BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO DO WHAT STAFF TOLD US. THERE'S REALLY THERE'S NO REMEDY. YOU'RE NOT SAYING YOU'RE NOT SUGGESTING ANYTHING BE DONE. SUGGEST ONE TECHNICAL ITEMS, SIR. BECAUSE OF WHAT STAFF TOLD TO DO 11 12 YEARS AGO. THIS HAS TO MATCH TO MAKE IT WORK. THAT'S NOT JUST A MARTIN SAYING IT HAS TO MATCH. HAVE YOU SEEN THE EXHIBIT? WHAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. YOU HAVE A DO YOU HAVE THAT MATTER THAT HE SENT YOU AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. THERE'S A PRETTY STRAIGHT, RIGHT? SO I HAVE THIS RIGHT? THIS IS THE OFFICIAL SUBMITTAL. WHY THEY SUBMITTED TO YOU AGAIN AS MR CLAUDE E. ER COUNCILMAN SAID. WHATEVER HAPPENS CAN HAPPEN TOMORROW, REGARDLESS OF THIS PICTURE. RIGHT, SO. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS CONNECTION IS CRITICAL BASED ON WHAT WAS AGREED TO 10 YEARS AGO. 10 YEARS AGO WAS THE CHURCH IS GOING TO GROW. THE CHURCH HAS GROWN TWICE. PERSON CONSISTENT WITH ITS PLANNED THERE WAS ESTABLISHED. 10 YEARS AGO. IT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AT A SNAIL SPACE. BUT YOU KNOW IT'S A CHURCH, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S NOT SERIOUS DONATION. THANK YOU. MARTIN ENOUGH, SIR. EXCUSE ME.UM, NO, I APPRECIATE IT. IF I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT COME BACK AND ASK YOU WHAT I AM UNDERSTANDING HOLD ON. THET IS SITTING IN FRONT OF US NOW THAT CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN, WHICH I KNOW WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH THE SIDE PLANE. WE'RE DEALING WITH ONLY ZONING. BUT COUPLE THINGS FIRST AGAIN, JUST TO BE CRYSTAL CLEAR. CURRENTLY THERE IS OWNING THAT ALLOWS COMMERCIAL USES SO COULD BE BUILT RIGHT NOW. CORRECT? UM NOW SET THAT ASIDE. EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH THE SITE PLAN AT THIS MOMENT, IS THERE SOMETHING IN THE IN OUR APPROVAL OF ZONING ASSUMING WERE TO DO THIS WHERE WE CAN HAVE A COMMITMENT OR BE ASSURED THAT THERE WILL BE THE FIRE LANE. ACCOMMODATION THAT THAT THE OTHER PROPERTY IS APPARENTLY DEPENDENT UPON. IS THERE. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT WITHOUT A SITE BECAUSE RIGHT IN A SITE PLAN, THAT'S CORRECT, BUT I MEAN, YOU CAN IN ANY P D. YOU CAN TIE DOWN. A NUMBER OF REQUIREMENTS. MY CONCERN AT THIS STAGE WOULD BE HOW WE WOULD ACTUALLY INCLUDE THAT IN THE LANGUAGE TO BE INCLUDED, UM, THAT A DIRECT CONNECTION. UM TO MCKINNEY RANCH PARKWAY BE PROVIDED. UM YOU KNOW, I COULD IT NOT BE THAT THE THAT WE WOULD REQUIRE THE FIRE LINE CONNECTION TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY WOULD MEET CRITERIA BY THE FIRE MARSHAL TO QUALIFY AS A YOU KNOW LANE POINT OF ACCESS TO CLARIFY THAT THE CHURCH IS NOT DEPENDENT ON THAT FIRE LINK CONNECTION TO MCKINNEY RANCH PARKWAY FOR ANY LEVEL OF FIRE ACCESS THEIR CURRENTLY ALREADY HAVE THERE, TOO. POINTS OF THAT . SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS IS THIS IS A DESIRED ACT. POINT. A FREE DOOR. TO THE POTENTIAL EXPANSION, BUT THAT IS NOT A REQUIRED FIRE. LANE UM, FOR THE CITY. HAD IT BEEN REQUIRED FIRE LINE FOR THE CITY. WE WOULD HAVE REQUIRED THEM TO HAVE THAT EASEMENT, ACQUIRED BEFORE ISSUING A BUILDING PERMIT. MY QUESTION IS, CAN YOU MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S AN OFFICE? AND NOT COMMERCIAL. WE COULD OBVIOUSLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE APPLICANT. THE RESIGNING CERTAINLY COULD LIMIT THIS TO THE OFFICE USES. ONLY YOU. COULD YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? YOU COULD ALSO MAKE IT. THERE'S CERTAIN THEY'RE JUST CERTAIN RETAIL USES THAT YOU DON'T WANT IN THE FRONT. BUT THERE'S ALLOWABLE RETAIL USES THAT YOU'RE OKAY WITH IS THAT CORRECT? EXACTLY THAT OF THE CHURCH. SO BASKET ROBBINS. OKAY SERIOUS SECRETS. NO RIGHT. MHM YEAH, BUT THE PROBLEM IS, YOU CAN'T RETAIL IS RETAIL. SO WE'RE TALKING SARA'S SECRET, BUT IT'S VICTORIA'S SECRET. I MEAN, THOSE ARE THOSE ARE ALL CONSIDERED RETAIL BARBS . DRESS SHOP IS ALSO CONSIDERED RETAIL. SO WE'RE NOW WE'RE NOW INCHING OVER INTO WHAT IS SOLD IN THAT RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT AS A MATTER OF ZONING. AND THAT'S THAT'S TERRITORY. WE'RE NOT. I'M SORRY TO DO THAT. IS THERE AN APPETITE TO LIMIT IT TO OFFICE? IF WE ARE TO GRANT THE ZONING ON ALL THE TOWN HOMES WITHOUT THE LIVE WORK PLAY? OUR PREFERENCE. OF COURSE, YOUR PREFERENCE. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT.
I'M NOT TALKING TO YOU ABOUT YOUR PREFERENCE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR PREFERENCE. I WOULD SAY THAT ME. WE'RE. IF YOU WERE TO OR THEIR USE IS THAT YOU COULD TAKE OUT ABSOLUTELY OKAY.
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THEY'RE THEY'RE USES. BUT CARLSON. WHERE'S THAT LINE? I MEAN, WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT.BUT WE CAN'T REALLY OFFER THOSE UP BECAUSE IT MIGHT NOT BE A USE THAT'S OFFENSIVE TO Y'ALL OR TO THEM THAT WE TAKE OUT INADVERTENTLY. MAYBE WE HAVE A USER FOR SO THE ISSUE LIKE THE CONDOMS TO GO WHERE THE VAPES OPERATE. HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA GO THERE. NOT SAY IT COULDN'T BUT WE'RE MID BLOCK. WE'RE NOT ON A COMMERCIAL CORNER. WE DON'T HAVE A TRADITIONAL WE'VE PARKED IT FOR A NON TRADITIONAL COMMERCIAL SITE, TYPICALLY COMMERCIAL DEPTH OF 60 TO 70 FT. WE DON'T HAVE THAT, AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE UP. WE MAKE IT 70 FT LONG. IT'S NOT VIABLE. SO. WITH THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING. WE LEFT OUR OPTIONS OPEN. IT COULD BE A DENTIST. IT COULD BE AN OFFICE OR A REALTOR OFFICE. SO I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO LIMIT USES. I CAN'T DO THAT RIGHT NOW. BUT IF WE WERE GIVEN A LIST THAT OUR CLIENT MY CLIENT COULD GO THROUGH AND SAY, YEAH, I CAN GET RID OF THOSE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO IT. BECAUSE HE DOES WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. THAT'S WHY WE WORKED ON IT FRIDAY TO PROVIDE THE ACCESS STRAIGHT DOWN. WE DO THAT THAT WAS THE TOP CONCERN AND READING THAT LETTER. AND SO THAT'S UNFORTUNATELY IT'S NOT ON THIS PLAN, OR I'M NOT ON THE SCREEN, BUT IT'S IN FRONT OF YOU. SO IS THE I WOULD IMAGINE, THOUGH, THAT, UM BASED JUST ON THEIR DIFFERENCE IN VOLUME THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO HERE IS THE SINGLE ATTACHED. TOWN HOME. I WOULD SAY THAT'S A PRICE. OTHER THIS OTHER.
SITUATED AS IT IS BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER PRODUCT THAT YOU CAN PUT THEIR RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S RIGHT, AND SO WOULD THERE. BE? AND YOU SEE THAT PREDICT? WE'RE IN. I UNDERSTAND SO MAYBE IN JENNIFER, YOU COULD CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THIS, UM IF WE WERE TO GOLDEN PAST ZONING THAT ALLOWED YOU TO DO THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED TOWN HOMES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND LIMITED ANY COMMERCIAL INTO OFFICE BUILDING. YOU COULD, THOUGH THEN, IF YOU WANT ONCE THERE IS MORE TIME FOR YOU TO EVALUATE WITH YOUR WITH YOUR LANDOWNER DEVELOPER. AND THEY HAD TIME TO GO TO THE MARKET AND FIND OUT WHAT THEY WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS VIABLE. THERE. YOU COULD COME IN FOR A VARIANCE. FROM THAT ZONING, TOO. I'M SEEING AHEAD CHECK NOW WOULD BE A REZONING. I MEAN, I THINK WOULD BE A VARIANCE. WHAT WE'D PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT IS IF WE WANTED TO GO THAT ROUTE AND S U P. CAN WE MAKE THIS CAN WE MAKE? CAN WE APPROVE THE ZONING WITH ANY COMMERCIAL WOULD REQUIRE AN ISSUE. P MY, MY PREFERENCE. OR RECOMMENDATION AT THE POINT IT'LL LAYING ON THE IS TOO TABLE THE ITEM TWO. ALLOW US. TO CRAFT. THAT LANG. I AM CAUTIOUS.
OF TRYING TO THAT. THE FLOOR. EVEN ANY LANGUAGE. THAT. SHOP. OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T THING OF ALL THOSE BUSINESSES RIGHT? THIS SO YOU'RE GONNA TAKE TIME WITH THE APPLICANT? THE DEPARTMENT. ARRIVE. AT LANGUAGE. SATISFIED FOR BOTH YOU AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WILL GIVE US TIME TO UPDATE THAT EXHIBIT FULLY AND WE CAN USE THAT MOVING FORWARD. I'M NOT VOTING FOR IT.
I'M GONNA HAVE A HARD TIME VOTING FOR IT WHEN IT'S JUST YEAH. YOU KNOW, AN OFFICE BUT I DON'T KNOW I WOULDN'T SUPPORT IT, AS IS RIGHT NOW. SO THEN WOULD THERE BE A MOOSH? TO THIS? CLOSED? PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE THIS? TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY? TO WORK? WITH? PROPERTY. SECOND. I DON'T HAVE A PARTICULAR QUESTION AND PROGRAM DRAW A LITTLE BIT HERE FOR YOU.
IT SEEMS TO ME THIS CORNER IS YOUR COMMERCIAL CORNER. BECAUSE IF I WERE THE SOUTHLAND CORPORATION, I'D PAY YOU A WHOLE LOT LESS FOR THIS THAN I WOULD THERE. IT SEEMS LIKE YOU COULD REDO YOUR SITE PLAN AND YOU COULD GET YOUR WHOLE LOT MORE BUILDINGS IN HERE. THERE'S
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COMMERCIAL IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WAS THROWN IN THE PLAN TO PLEASE THE COUNCIL BECAUSE THIS IS KNOWN AS THE COLLIN MCKINNEY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. AND SO I FEEL LIKE YOUR THROUGH THE COMMERCIAL ON THERE JUST WHEREVER YOU COULD. AH! SO THAT IT WOULD BE CALLED COMMERCIAL. I THINK YOU COULD DO THAT IS RESIDENTIAL MAYBE NOT AS SAME SCALE YOU'RE DOING THERE AND STILL ACHIEVE THE SAME THING AND GET MORE MONEY OUT OF YOUR CORNER. THAT'S JUST AN OBSERVATION. YOU DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT WHATSOEVER. SO IF I MAY ADDRESS THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT THAT OPTION THE PROBLEM IS DRIVEWAY. SPACING. COMING IN. AND OF THOSE. FROM THE EGGS. ME.MERCIAL. WITHOUT HAVING TWO. LOSE. AND A LOT OF SPACE THERE. THAT WITH TOWN HOME WE'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT SPACE AS WELL AS PROVIDE OPEN SPACE FOR THE RESIDENTS. BELIEVE ME, WE'VE LOOKED AT ALL THIS COMMERCIAL RUNNING ALL ALONG MCKINNEY RANCH. TURNING UP SILVERADO GOING IN. IT DIDN'T WORK. WE COULD NOT GET STAFF SUPPORT FROM THE ENGINEERING SIDE. WITH ASPECTS OF THE DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS AND THROAT DEPTHS THAT ARE REQUIRED. ONCE THE COMMERCIAL EVEN INCLUDED IN THERE WASN'T EACH OTHER. GREAT RESIDENTIAL. ASK US TO DO THAT.
WELL ONE REASON IS WITH THE FIGHTING WILL NOW WITH THE FIRE LANE, CUTTING THAT PIECE OFF. I CANNOT GET TOWN HOME OVER THERE AND SATISFY THE FRONTAGE ISSUE, ALONG WITH PROVIDING AN ALLEY BUILDING. UM WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT AND MEET THE PARKING IN A DRIVE OUT THERE SO THIS WOULD DEVELOP ON ITS OWN. WE WOULD DO THE RIGHT AWAY TO A CERTAIN DISTANCE PAST THE 31ST DRIVE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING FOR THE FIRE LANE COMING DOWN. THAT WE COULD DO OUR FIRE LANE BACK ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY BOUNDARY AND PROVIDE TWO POINTS FOR THIS ONE PARTICULAR BUILDING WITHOUT HAVING TO DO THE TOWN HALL. I DON'T KNOW COULD BE ANOTHER PHASE. THIS IS MY COMMENTS AND OBSERVATIONS. GOOD LUCK. SO CAN WE AMEND THAT? CAN WE AMEND THAT MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL? BECAUSE WE'LL PROBABLY WANT TO KEEP THAT PUBLIC HEARING OPEN.
SO THERE'S A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN THIS ITEM. THE SIXTH. THERE IS A SECOND ALSO, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. THANK YOU. MR BROWN MAKE THE REMARK THAT I LIKE, UM SARATOGA MARTIN MUCH MORE THAN I DO. HIGHWAY FIVE. MARTIN I'D LIKE TO INVITE HIM BACK. ALL ITEM MIGHT AS WELL GO BACK TO IT, UM. BACK TO ITEM 22. FLORIDA BUT WE'RE THE LAST. OH HOUSEKEEPING, HIRED A MUSEUM HERE, JIM. AND THIS IS RIGHT UP YOUR RIGHT AFTER YOU KNOW WHAT I'M OUT OF ORDER, SIR . BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M GOING TO RESPECT THAT. I THINK YOU HAVE AN IDEA WHERE WE'RE ABOUT TO GO. SO YOU ARE ITEM. YOU DON'T WANNA BE HERE LONG YOU ARE YOU ARE YOU 040 Z TWO, SIR,
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District and “REC” - Regional Employment Center Overlay District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to Modify the Development Standards and to Allow for Multi-Family Residential and Commercial Uses, Located on the Southwest Corner of Collin McKinney Parkway and Alma Drive, and Accompanying Ordinance]
WE'RE GONNA SKIP 22222004 Z TWO CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AND ACT ON REQUEST TO REZONE SUBJECT. PROPERTY FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT CENTER OVER DISTRICT. TO PDP. DEVELOPMENT. GENERALLY. MODIFY STANDARDS AND TO ALLOW FOR MORE FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL USE. IS LOCATED. ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF COLLIN MCKINNEY. PARKWAY. ALMA. DRIVE.DOWN TO A PD. THAT WOULD BREAK THE TRACTOR. AND TWO SUB. SUBTRACT. ON SOUTHERN PORTION.
IS ABOUT EIGHT POINT. AND SIZE. AND TRACKED B ON THE NORTHERN TRACK, WHICH IS ABOUT POINTS.
ACRES. IN SIZE. THAT. TRACK. THE APPLICANT IS TO ALLOW FOR SENIOR MULTI FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
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STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST IT IS ALIGNMENT. WITH THE CITIES. OF PLAN, WHICH DESIGNATE THIS PROPERTY. HAS MIX USE SO. WHICH FOR A VARIETY OF OFFICE. AND SUPPORT. RESIDENT. GIVEN THAT WE HAVE HUB OF CARGO, CORPORATE CENTER, UM REALLY CLOSE BY, WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT THE OF ACHIEVE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF OFFICE ON THIS TRACK MAYBE. AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANY QUESTIONS. SO WHAT'S GOING TO GO WITH THE PURPLE ONE? THAT YOU'VE ? WHAT SO THIS ONE IS OWNED. THE WANTING. TO PUT SENIORS FAMILY THAT'S CORRECT. IS THIS ONE? SO THAT WOULD BE A MIX OF COMMERCIAL USES? AND IF YOU GIVE ME JUST ONE? SECOND? CAN PULL UP. THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. AND GIVE YOU A. CARE, FITNESS CLUB OR GYM BANKS, DRUGSTORES OFFICE BUILDING OFFICE USES PERSONAL SERVICE, WHICH ARE THINGS LIKE DRY CLEANERS AND BARBERSHOPS, INDOOR RETAIL INDOOR COMMERCIAL RESTAURANTS. BOTH DRIVE IN AND OUR DINING AND OUT DRIVE THROUGH . A MOVIE THEATER, SO THOSE ARE THE PROPOSED RETAIL USES ON THAT TRACK TO BE SO IS THIS THE ENTIRE PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YES, SIR. YES JUST IN THAT THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? JUST ONE. I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER. BUT THIS SENIOR, MULTI MULTI FAMILY HOUSING THE SENIOR HOUSING EVER WAS GOING TO ALLOW YOUNGER PEOPLE IN THERE HAVE TO BE AN S U P ON THAT ARE REZONE NOT IS THAT CORRECT? REZONE IT TIED DOWN WITH THE PD. IS THAT AGE RESTRICTION FOR SENIOR MULTI, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, APPLICANT. MR ROEDER OUT OF ORDER EARLIER. WE'RE GOING TO FORGIVE THAT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST DIDN'T HOLD A GRUDGE. I APOLOGIZE. BARBARA ODOR 1700 RED BUD. SUITE 300 MCKINNEY ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. AH LET ME JUST START BY SAYING THAT IT'S UNFORTUNATE IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE THAT WE ARE STUCK WITH THE CONCEPT OF MULTI FAMILY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SENIOR HOUSING. BECAUSE AS MISS ARNOLD HAS POINTED OUT, THIS IS A HIGHLY RESTRICTED DEVELOPMENT TO PEOPLE THAT WOULD QUALIFY UNDER YOUR ORDINANCE, WHERE REQUIRED TO MAKE A SIMILAR ANNUAL REPORT OR BIANNUAL REPORT OF THE CENSUS OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED THERE KNOW EVERY UNIT HAS TO HAVE AT LEAST SOMEBODY THAT'S AGED 55 OR OLDER. IN MY PARTICULAR CLIENT'S CASE, THEIR THEIR AVERAGE AGE IS WOULD BE 70 PLUS. UM, SO THERE ARE NO MEDICAL SERVICES PROVIDED OR ANYTHING. THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD CALL ACTIVE SENIOR ADULT LIVING. THERE IS A NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR THIS. WE ARE WOEFULLY UNDERSERVED. WITH SENIOR HOUSING. AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THAT THAT KIND OF HOUSING. IT IS FORTUNATE FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF MEDICAL SERVICES IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA. AND STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE FOR PROPERTIES LIKE THIS IN THE SENIOR HOUSING ENVIRONMENT, INDICATED THE SENIORS. YEAH, AND THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES HAVE QUITE A BIT OF DISPOSABLE INCOME , AND A LOT OF THAT DISPOSABLE INCOME IS SPENT ON MEDICAL SERVICES. IN FACT, WE WOULD X SOME OVER SIX MILLION ANNUALLY FROM THESE RESIDENTS TO BE SPENT ON LOCAL MEDICAL SERVICES. SO WE SEE THIS AS A VERY SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP WITH THE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM MISS ARNOLD. IT'S ALL WE'RE ALREADY SPOKEN TO THE TO THE RELATIVE HEIGHTS AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF THING, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S A NEED THAT WE HAVE TO NEED THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. IT'S CLEARLY A NEED THAT WE HAVE IN THE CRAIG RANCH AREA SO I WOULD REQUEST YOUR FIBER LOW APPROVAL AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. DO NOT SHOW YOU WANT SIGNED UP? SO. IS
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THERE A MOTION OR DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? IT'S VERY MOVED THAT WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DISCUSS AND APPROVED THE ITEM, I GUESS. I'LL SECTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVED THE ITEM. SECOND MR. COUNCILMAN FRANKLIN. CAST YOUR VOTES. PUBLIC HEARING JUST YEAH, NO, HE JUST CLOSED, AMENDED IT TO CLOSE AND APPROVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC TO PROVE THAT WE COULD DISCUSS IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU GUYS DISCUSSED. WE DID. BUT THEN, HE ADDED A PROOF WHEREVER YOU CAN STILL. YEAH, SO WE SO WE WILL. THE MOTION WILL BE TOO PUBLIC. IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU, MR MAYOR. THANK YOU. I'LL START BY SAYING THAT MY VERY SHORT TENURE ON COUNCIL THAT YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF THIS APPETITE FOR THE SENIOR HOUSING AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER I HAD A FRIEND YEARS AGO, LIVED IN OLDER ELDORADO AND HE HAD A MOTHER IN LAW QUARTERS ABOVE HIS GARAGE.AND I THOUGHT, MAN, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOTHER IN LAW QUARTERS ABOVE MY GARAGE, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY ROOM FOR IT. YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY TO BUY THAT KIND OF LOT THAT THESE LOTS ARE INCREASINGLY SCARCE AND MY MOTHER MOVED HERE, BUT SHE MOVED INTO HER OWN HOUSE, WHICH WAS GREAT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK GENERALLY WE LOVE HAVING OUR PARENTS CLOSE.
WE HAVE THE SANDWICH GENERATION AND BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO BE WITH US, AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE WITH THEM. THEY WANT THEIR OWN LITTLE FOOTPRINT. AND, UH, THIS IS A GREAT SOLUTION, AND THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A HUGE DEMAND FOR IT, AND, UH IN THIS VERY PACKED OUT AREA. AND YOU KNOW THE HOMESTEAD CRAIG RANCH. IF YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF THEM, HECK, THEY'VE GOT THIS NEW THREE STORY HOMES, DREES HOMES GOING IN WITH ELEVATOR SHAFTS TO PUT THE MOTHER IN LAW SO OR THE PARENTS, SO I LOVE THIS. OKAY? THE DISCUSSION. BUT THAT ENTERTAIN A MOTION. LIKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THIS ITEM. I'LL SECOND JUST TO CONSISTENT. CAST YOUR VOTE.
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request from Denton County Electric Cooperative, Inc., d/b/a Coserve Electric for an Electric Easement upon, over, under and across City-owned land that is designated as a Park on the Parks Master Plan for the purpose of providing electric utility service to the Indoor Tennis Facility located within Gabe Nesbitt Community Park. The Indoor Tennis Facility is Located on Lot 1R, Block A, of the McKinney Community Park in an area that is east of Alma Drive and south of Eldorado Parkway in McKinney, Collin County, Texas and Accompanying Ordinance and Electric Line Easement]
EMOTION PASSES. I AM 2 TO 0766 CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AND ACT ON REQUEST FROM DENTON COUNTY ELECTRIC CO. OPTED BECO SERVE ELECTRIC FOR AN ELECTRIC EASTMAN UPON OVER UNDER AND ACROSS CITY ON LAND IS DESIGNATED AS A PARK. ON THE PARK'S MASTER PLAN FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING ELECTRICAL UTILITY SERVICE TO THE INDOOR TENNIS FACILITY, LOCATED WITH ENGAGED COMMUNITY PARK, THE INDOOR TENNIS FACILITIES LOCATED ON LOT ONE R BLOCK A OF THE OF THE MCKINNEY COMMUNITY PARK IN THE AREA THAT IS EAST OF ALMA DRIVE IN SOUTH BUILD OR PARKWAY, MCKINNEY, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS AND ACCOMPANYING ORDINANCE AND ELECTRIC LINE. EASTMAN MR KOWSKI . GOOD EVENING KOWSKI, DIRECTOR OF PARKS, RECREATION, THE TITLE KIND OF SAYS IT ALL. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO GRANT AN EASEMENT TO CO SERVED TO PROVIDE ELECTRICITY TO THE NEW INDOOR TENNIS FACILITY REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING. I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. STRAIGHTFORWARD THANK YOU, MR CASKET AS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? I MOVE THAT WE CLOSER. PUBLIC HEARING IMPROVE THIS ITEM SECOND. CAST YOUR VOTES.EVERYTHING WENT AWAY, BUT I BOOKED YES. FOR. THE NAIL BITER . IT'S ANEL BITER! ALRIGHT ITEM
[Consider/Discuss/Act on Adoption of a Resolution Determining a Public Necessity to Acquire Property Easement Rights for Public Use by Eminent Domain for Sanitary Sewer and Temporary Construction Easements associated with the Honey Creek Sanitary Sewer Trunk Main Project (WW1638) which Property is Located Near the Northwest Corner of State Highway 5 and FM 543 and Authorizing the City Manager to Establish Procedures for Acquiring the Easements on Said Property, and Take All Steps Necessary to Acquire the Needed Property Rights in Compliance with all Applicable Laws and Resolutions]
2 TO 0767 CONSIDERED ACT ON ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION DETERMINING REPUBLICAN ASSESS IT E TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY EASEMENT RIGHTS REPUBLIC USED BY EMINENT DOMAIN FOR SANITARY, SEWER AND TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE HONEY CREEK . SANITARY IS WHO ARE TRUNK MAIN PROJECT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED NEAR THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF STATE HIGHWAY FIVE AND F. M. 5 43 AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ESTABLISH PROCEDURES FOR REQUIRING THESE MINTS ON SET PROPERTY. AND TAKE ALL STEPS NECESSARY TO ACQUIRE THE NEEDED PROPERTY RIGHTS AND COMPLIANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE LAWS AND RESOLUTIONS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.GARY GRAHAM, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING. UH THIS IS THE SAME PROJECT. WE WERE HERE TO COUNCIL MEETINGS AGO ASKING FOR A MINUTE DOMAIN ON THE TRACK TO THE WEST OF SPUR 1 95. IT'S THE SANITARY SEWER PROJECT TO ADD CAPACITY THE SYSTEM ALLOWS FOR DEVELOPMENT IN NORTHWEST SECTOR UM 54 INCHES SEWER LINE. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER NEGOTIATED WITH HIM. WE HAVE CONDUCTED APPRAISAL, BUT HE HAS BEEN UNRESPONSIVE ON OUR OFFERS, AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE EXHIBIT. UNFORTUNATELY PROPERTY IS INUNDATED WITH EASEMENTS. AND SO HE IS FRUSTRATED WITH THE NUMBER OF EASEMENTS, WITH THE WAY THE HUH CREEKS SEWER THE HONEY CREEK FLOWS THERE, THIS IS THE NATIONAL. GO TO EMINENT DOMAIN AND CONTINUE NEGOTIATE WITH HIM, BUT ALSO HAVE THE
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ABILITY TO REMAIN IF THAT FAILS, AS WITH ALL EMINENT DOMAIN CASES , THIS IS NOT A TAKING OF THE PROPERTY AS WE EXPLAIN, WE HAVE DONE ENOUGH. OF FAIR MARKET. FAIR. VALUE FOR THE. WE OFFER.THAT TOO. HIM. WE'VE THE OWNERS THERE. DOMAIN WE WOULD GO TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, WHERE THEY WOULD ESTABLISH WHAT THE FAIR MARKET VALUE FOR THE PROPERTY IS AN AWARD BASED ON THAT, UM, DECISION. SO WITH THAT ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL SO FROM FROM WHAT? ALL THIS IS THIS IS EXISTING, CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT. SO WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THAT. THAT'S THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT CORRECT. WE'RE VOTING ON. JUST THIS IS CORRECT. GREEN ONE GOING JUST NORTH OF YOUR BLUE LINING THROUGH THERE. THAT'S ALSO EXISTING THE WATER LINES ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. THOSE ARE EXISTING AS WELL. JUST TO THE TEMPORARY CONTRACT WAS JUST THE RED. IT'S JUST THAT BLACK BLACKEST THE PERMANENT SURGERIES AT THE RED IS THE TEMPORARY SEWERS, CONSTRUCTION. WE HAVE AN EASEMENT THERE. FOR WATER. BUT JUST WE DON'T HAVE THE OTHER EASEMENTS. CORRECT THERE IS A NORTH TEXAS EASEMENT TO THE NORTH. BUT WE ARE PUTTING A CITY SEWER LINE IN NOW AS WELL. OKAY, SO THEY. REALLY CAN'T USE THAT PROPERTY. I MEAN, THEY CAN'T BUILD ON TOP OF THAT PROPERTY ANYWAY. RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, THEY HAVEN'T EASY, SO BASICALLY, THEY HAVE AN EASEMENT. NOW WE'RE JUST EXTENDING. THAT ISN'T SOMEWHAT MAKING IT WIDER. RIGHT TO 30.
FT. EASE WENT OUT THERE. NOW WE'RE TAKING ABOUT A 50 FT 50 FT EASEMENT. PLUS THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTIONS BUT WHICH GOES AWAY WHEN CONSTRUCTION IS OVER. OKAY, THAT'S FINE. JUST 50 FT EASEMENT. YES, SIR. THERE'S OUR EASEMENT ENCROACH UPON THE CURRENT THE NORTH TEXAS EASEMENT . YES NO, IT IS NOT. IT'S ADJACENT TO OKAY. THANK YOU. INDEED. YOU KNOW THE WIDTH OF THEIR EASEMENT. I BELIEVE IT'S 30 FT. IS THAT IS THAT LOCATED IN FLOODPLAIN? I BELIEVE SO, SIR . OKAY THAT'S GENERALLY WHERE IT IS BASICALLY UNUSABLE. ME. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, NO, IT'S NOT SORRY. AS A SPECIAL LANGUAGE I NEED YOU TO HOLD ATTEMPT WILL REQUIRE A SPECIAL LANGUAGE IN A ROW CALL, PLEASE GO AHEAD. I MOVED TO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, TEXAS CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THIS ITEM HAS WRITTEN AND ADOPT THE RESOLUTION DESCRIBED IN THIS AGENDA ITEM UNAUTHORIZED USE OF THE POWER OF IMMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE FOR PUBLIC USE ALL NECESSARY PROPERTY INTEREST FROM JAMAL HELICOPTER. THERE'S AN ASN IN TALENT. THEY'RE IDENTIFIED AS OWNER OF RECORD BY THE COLLIN COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT IN ANY OTHER PERSONS OR ENTITIES CLAIMING AN INTEREST TO THE PROPERTY, DEPICTED ON AND DESCRIBED BY MEET SOME BALANCE OF TEST SAID RESOLUTIONS SAID DEPICTIONS AND DESCRIPTIONS BEING INCORPORATED IN THEIR ENTIRETY. INTO THIS MOTION FOR ALL PURPOSES, INCLUDING THE DESTRUCTION, ACCESS AND MAINTENANCE OF INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS NEAR THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF STATE HIGHWAY FIVE AND F M. 5 43 ASSOCIATED WITH THE HONEY CREEK SANITARY SEWER TRUMP MAIN PROJECT, THE SEASON OPEN. W W 1638 PARENTHESES. CLOTHES. THANK YOU. SECOND. THIS CAST YOUR VOTES. RICHARD. IT'S A ROLL CALL. SORRY. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. OOPS. SORRY. I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. YES. YES. ADAM 220005 TO
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on an Ordinance Amending Sections 146-130 (Vehicle Parking) and Section 146-134 (Performance Standards) of the Code of Ordinances, and Accompanying Ordinance]
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AND ACT ON ORDINANCE. AMENDING SECTIONS 1 46 THROUGH 1 30 VEHICLE PARKING SECTION 1 46 1 34 PERFORMANCE STANDARDS OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AND ACCOMPANYING ORDINANCE. JENNIFER ARNOLD. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. THESE NEXT TWO ITEMS ARE SOMEWHAT COMPANION ITEMS, SO WE WILL START WITH THE FIRST. SO WHAT? AS YOU JUST READ THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS TO MODIFY THE CITY ZONING ORDINANCE. SECTIONS 1 30, WHICH RELATES TO VEHICLE PARKING AND SECTIONS, 1 34, WHICH RELATES TO PERFORMANCE STANDARDS AS PART OF OUR CODE OVERHAUL PROJECT. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH OUR ENTIRE SET OF ZONING. ORDINANCE. WE'VE IDENTIFIED COMPONENTS IN THAT OR THAT JUST DON'T BELONG THERE. QUITE FRANKLY. IN PARTICULAR.[02:00:05]
THIS SITE. ORDINANCE AND SECTION 1 30 INTO CHAPTER 70, WHICH IS THAT COMPANION ITEM THAT WILL COME NEXT. IN ADDITION, IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, WE ALSO HAVE A SERIES OF WHAT WE CALL PERFORMANCE STANDARDS AND THAT RELATES TO THINGS LIKE SMOKE AND PARTICULATE MATTER, ODOROUS MATTER FIRE, FIRE AND EXPLOSIVE MATERIALS. TOXIC NOXIOUS MATTER VIBRATION, WASTE MATERIALS, NOISE AND CONSTRUCTION HOURS, NONE OF WHICH TRULY BELONG IN A ZONING CODE, AND THAT IS FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT REASONS. ONE WE HAVE OTHER CODES WITHIN THE CITY THAT ALREADY GOVERN A LOT OF THOSE THINGS. FOR NOISE ORDINANCE CHAPTER. SO AND WE ALSO HAVE STATE AGENCIES THAT REGULATE THINGS LIKE PARTICULATE MATTER, AND SO WHAT WE FOUND OVER THE YEARS IS HAVING THESE PROVISIONS WITHIN THE ZONING CODE CAN BE CHALLENGING BECAUSE AS THE PLANNING STAFF IN AS A CITY SOME OF THESE THINGS WERE JUST FRANKLY NOT EQUIPPED OR THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS TO ENFORCE SO WITH THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT, WE ARE SUGGESTING THAT WE RELOCATE CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF THE ZONING CODE INTO OTHER SECTIONS OF THE CITIES. CODE OF ORDINANCES, WHICH IS THAT SECOND ITEM THAT YOU LOOK AT, BUT THIS ITEM HERE IS STRICTLY REQUESTING TO REDLINE OUR ZONING CODE TO REMOVE THESE THINGS FROM THE ZONING CODE, THOSE THAT ARE GOVERNED BY OTHER SECTIONS OF THE CITIES, CODE OR OTHER STATE AGENCY. THOSE WILL JUST GO AWAY. MANUAL OR THINGS OF THE LIKE, SO THIS ITEM IS STRICTLY TO STRIKE THAT ZONING CODE AND THOSE PROVISIONS IN THERE THAT JUST QUITE FRANKLY DON'T BELONG. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM QUESTIONS. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. JENNIFER PUBLIC HEARING DO NOT SHOW ANYONE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR THE ITEM. ON THE ITEM WITH THAT ENTERTAIN A MOTION. THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVED THIS ITEM. I WILL. SECOND CAST YOUR VOTES. RIGHT. THE COMPANION ITEM. JENNIFER'S 220006 M. CONSIDERING ACT ON ORDINANCE AND[Consider/Discuss/Act on an Ordinance Amending Chapter 70 (Offenses and Miscellaneous Provisions), Chapter 122 (Construction Regulations), and Chapter 62 (Motor Vehicles and Traffic) of the Code of Ordinances, and Accompanying Ordinance]
MANY CHAPTER 70. UM OFFENSES AND MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS. CHAPTER 1 22 CONSTRUCTION REGULATIONS, CHAPTER 62 MOTOR VEHICLES IN TRAFFIC OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AND ACCOMPANYING COORDINATES. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. SO AS I MENTIONED IN THAT PREVIOUS ITEM, A NUMBER OF THOSE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS AND PRO WE ARE SEEING TO. I JUST WANT TO RUN THROUGH. THOSE JUST FOR THE RECORD. UM ARE REQUEST. TO AMEND CHAPTER SEVEN. ME INTO CHAPTER 70. WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING TO MOVE OUR PERFORMANCE STANDARDS RELATED TO NOISE INTO CHAPTER 70. ALSO IN CHAPTER 70 WERE AT IT. WE ARE ASKING TO HAVE SOME CLARIFYING LANGUAGE ABOUT OTHER RESPONSIBILITY FOR TREAT TRIMMING AND CLEARANCES AGAINST THINGS LIKE ROADWAYS AND ALLEYS. WE ARE ALSO REQUESTING TO ADD CONSTRUCTION HOURS TO CHAPTER 1 22 AND TO ADD PARKING PROHIBITIONS ON PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY INTO CHAPTER 62. ALL OF THAT IS VERY NICELY WRITTEN IN THE STAFF REPORT, SO I HOPE THAT WAS HELPFUL FOR YOU ALL AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS FOR JENNIFER.SOMETHING. ENTERTAIN A MOTION. THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING THIS ISLAND MOVED TO APPROVE THIS ITEM. ONE SECOND. CAST YOUR VOTES. IMPASSES. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO BACK TO 2 TO 0576 OR FINAL. ITEM THIS EVENING. UH, CONSIDER AN ACT ON AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE REDISTRICTING IN THE CITY, SINGLE MEMBER COUNCIL DISTRICTS AND ESTABLISHING NEW DISTRICT BOUNDARY LINES. FOR MCKINNEY'S CITY COUNCIL ELECTIONS BASED ON THE 2020 CENSUS DATA AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. TO RECAP. WE HAD A MOTION TO APPROVE. D THAT MOTION FAILED TO CARRY. UH MR HAUSER. YOU THEN CONTACTED, UM OUR CONSULTANT AND IDENTIFIED THAT WE COULD IN FACT VOTE FOR A YES, SIR. NOT MEAN THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY. THE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO WITHOUT HAVING MAYBE HAVING MORE DISCUSSION IN PUBLIC. AND OPEN FOR THAT. LET ME CLARIFY AND THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME CALL MR . SEEMS AH, I TEXTED HIM. I SENT YOU THAT I ALSO TALKED TO HIM.
BECAUSE MY CONCERN THE REASON I WANTED TO TALK TO US ABOUT THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT. AS BEING THE
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THING THAT WE NEEDED TO BE. PLAYING WITH HE SAID THAT AS LONG AS THE AGENDA ITEM POSTED IN THE AGENDA. WAS SUFFICIENT. THEN THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT WOULD HAVE WOULD BE ADHERED TO. SO THEN WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT THAT AGENDA ITEM REALLY SAID. AS YOU CAN SEE. THE ITEM ITSELF DOES NOT MENTION A MAP. SO IF THE ITEM HAD MENTIONED MAPS, C OR D, OR A OR WHATEVER IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO THAT SO THAT'S A LONG WAY TO SAY THAT I WANTED TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT PUTTING RIGHTS ACT IS IT? HIS COMPLY? WITH SO LONG AS WE A ADEQUATE PUBLIC. NO. WE DO. THANK YOU. BEING THAT D WAS THE MOTION WAS MADE TO APPROVE THE AND IT FAILED. DOES THAT PRECLUDE THAT FROM COMING BACK IF WE WERE TO CONTINUE THAT THIS ITEM. NO. AND YOU CAN CONTINUE THE ITEM. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE ARE JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT SO BEFORE US. THE DECISIONS ARE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TONIGHT TO VOTE. WE'VE ALREADY HAD ONE MOTION ON D, WHICH FAILED. WE COULD VOTE FOR C OR VOTE FOR A EVEN THERE WAS A MOTION FOR A BUT GO AHEAD. I STILL STAND BY MY MOTION, BUT BUT I NEED YOU TO BRING UP THE A MAP. IF YOU WOULD. SO. MY MOTION ONLY INCLUDES THAT IF THAT BE PUT IN FOUR. I THINK THAT'S INCLUDED IN ONE RIGHT NOW, BUT I NEED THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT IN FOUR. SO MY MOTION WOULD BE TO APPROVE A WITH THAT. AREA PUT IN UM PUT IN, UM. DISTRICT FOUR BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WANT TO SAY, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE WISE TO DO THAT. WE HAVE NOT ALLOWED PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS. THIS MAP. NOT BEEN. I HAVEN'T GOT A NUMBER. OF TEXTS. TO SITTING HERE. ABOUT HOW WE GOING TO THROW IN? A. AT THIS. IN TIME. I THINK WE NEED TO TABLE THE ITEM. AGAIN. UM, BECAUSE EMOTION BECAUSE HE MADE A MOTION. THOUGH YOU KNOW AGAIN, I. ME ASKING ABOUT A AGAIN IT WAS SOMETHING WAS PRESENTED EARLY ON. I JUST BUT I'M BRINGING IT BACK TO THE TABLE WAS JUST TO HAVE THAT DIALOGUE AGAIN ABOUT IF WE WERE TO CONSIDER NONE OF THE I WILL SAY BIASES. I DON'T MEAN THAT IN A NEGATIVE WAY, BUT APPEARED JUST LOOKING AT IT VERY, VERY PURE AND SIMPLISTIC FOR THE CITY. I. I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD HAVE EXCLUDED THAT POSSIBILITY, EITHER, BUT I DO RECOGNIZE THAT. THAT IF WE DO VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT IT IS NOT AFFORDING PUBLIC INPUT TO THE EXTENT THAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD HAVE EXPECTED TO HAVE PUBLIC INPUT. THANKS FOR THAT REASON I HAPPENED LIKE A LIKE A FOR SEVERAL REASONS. I LIKE THE SIMPLICITY OF IT. I LIKE THAT, AS IT WAS MENTIONED BY COUNCILMAN PHILLIPS CREATE. RESIDENTS WITH WITH MAP D WOULD BE ALL IN DISTRICT ONE. I MEAN, I THINK WITHOUT EXCEPTION, EXCEPTION OF MAYBE GLOBAL LIFE UM SO ALL THAT SAID. PUBLIC INPUT. WOULD, I THINK BE CIRCUMVENTED. AND IF WE DIDN'T AT LEAST HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO SPEAK TO IT. I HAVE ALSO GOTTEN SOME TEXT MESSAGES, FYI, SAYING THAT THEY ACTUALLY SUPPORTIVE A JUST FOR THE CLEANLINESS OF IT, BUT I WOULDN'T MAKE A I WOULDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE GOING ON. TWO. BY THE WAY, NOT I DON'T WANT TO. TAX I RECEIVED ON IT, BUT THOSE TWO TEXTS WOULD NOT GOVERN. MY THINKING ON THIS. I DO BELIEVE WE'D BE CIRCUMVENTING. PUBLIC INPUT. BUT I DO THINK IT IS A VERY VALID MAP TO CONSIDER. WHO WILL MAKE SOME COMMENTS ON A ONE[02:10:02]
I DON'T KNOW. HOW TO REPRESENT A CORPORATE RESIDENT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A REDISTRICTING, SO YOU ALL ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TELL ME HOW TO DO THAT. TWO. IT ONLY IS DISTRICT ONE. ABSORBING ALL OF THE GROWTH THAT'S COMING FROM PAIN AND TREE. WE HAVE NOW MADE IT 1% BIGGER THAN IT WAS AND SEE. AND NOT ONLY IS DISTRICT THREE CUT OFF FROM ANY GROWTH. WE'VE NOW MADE IT 5% SMALLER THAN THE IDEAL SIZE. AND IT'S STILL CONTINUES TO MOVE ALL OF THE 12,000. CONSTITUENTS THAT DISTRICT ONE NEEDS OUT OF DISTRICT THREE AND REQUIRES DISTRICT THREE TO GO GET THOSE FROM OTHER DISTRICTS. AND SO IT CONTINUES TO DISRUPT IN THAT WAY. AND WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THIS MAP SINCE FEBRUARY. IT HADN'T BEEN PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC. IT HASN'T BEEN TO A PUBLIC HEARING. IT WASN'T ON OUR AGENDA. IS THAT IT'S EVEN UP FOR A VOTE RIGHT NOW THAT WE'VE A MOTION TO VOTE FOR. THIS THING. ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU MADE THE MOST BEFORE. YOU CUT OUT, RICKS PROPERTY DON'T WE? HMM YEAH. YES CERTAINLY HAS THE ABILITY TO AMEND THE MOTION, HOWEVER, JUST INTO YOUR POINT. UM, WHICH IS WHY I MADE THE STATEMENT. I MADE THAT THAT I DON'T WANT TO CIRCUMVENT PUBLIC INPUT TO THE QUESTION ON CORPORATE RESIDENTS.THERE. ACTUALLY. WE WANT TO START MAKING COMPARISONS LIKE THAT DISTRICT. THAT'S A INSTITUTIONAL ASSETS AND IN THE CITY DISTRICT ONE HAS THE MAJORITY OF THE AIRLINE ASSETS AND JUST LIKE BUT THOSE DON'T MATTER. WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REPRESENTATION VOTE FOR ONE PERSON. I UNDERSTAND, BUT THE ONE VOTE FOR ONE PERSON IS ACHIEVED ACTUALLY, TO A GREATER EXTENT ON THE DIFFERENTIAL AND SEE THAT IT IS DEEP NUMBER ONE. SO I DON'T I DON'T AGREE WITH.
THE COMMERCIAL ASSETS MEAN AS MUCH TO THE CONVERSATION AS THAT COMMENT MEANS IT DOESN'T MATTER WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REDISTRICTING. CORPORATE TO SOME MY WAY ASSETS ARE WERE INSTITUTIONAL ASSETS ARE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE AND THEIR VOTES. YOU KNOW IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEN IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE IN THEIR VOTES, I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE BEST MAP ON THE TABLE TODAY AS THE ONE WITH THE LEAST, DIFFERENTIAL WHERE WE HAVE THE MOST EQUIVALENT.
ANYTHING. EXCEPT FOR THEIR VERY CLOSE TOGETHER. THAT IS, ALL IT IS, IS THAT WE GOT THEM AS CLOSE TO 48,500 PEOPLE AS WE COULD. THAT IS NOT ONLY PRESENTS AS WE CREATED DISTRICTS THAT WERE THE MOST EVENLY MATCHES WHAT IT REPRESENTS, MATHEMATICALLY. BUT BUT TO THE POINT OF WHICH I AGREE WITH YOU ON UM, THAT WE DON'T WANT TO CIRCUMVENT. UM, PUBLIC INPUT. AND I RECOGNIZE THIS MAP IS NEW TO THE DISCUSSION. AT LEAST TONIGHT CERTAINLY WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION. EARLIER. I WOULD NOT BE COMFORTABLE VOTING ON IT, CIRCUMVENTING PUBLIC INPUT, AND THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS TONIGHT SO COMMENT. I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THIS PROCEDURALLY RATHER THAN SUBSTANTIVE. I DON'T SEE THAT THERE'S ANY HARM AND TABLING ALLOWING THE PUBLIC TO HAVE TO IF NOTICE. THEM AGAIN. THAT IT'S GOOD. TO COME UP. SO I THINK FOR TONIGHT'S PURPOSES, IT WOULD BE PRUDENT, JUST SIMPLY THE TABLE THE MATTER GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY. THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ONE INPUT THEY OUR NEXT OR WHENEVER WE'RE ON THE NEXT STOCK. IT SO I THINK PROCEDURE.
THAT WOULD BE BETTER. THAN OUR. THINGS THAT NOT GOING TO TONIGHT. THAT WE TABLED. THE ITEMS CONTINUE. CONTINUE THE ITEM CIRCLE. NOVEMBER TO THE 20TH 20TH MAYOR. PROTEIN WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO GET WITH MR SEQUUS ON? THE YOUR AMENDED MOTION SO THAT YOU HAVE WE NEED TO INCLUDE THAT THAT AREA. THAT'S EXACTLY IS, OF COURSE, BECAUSE THERE IS A CITY COUNCIL
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MEMBER THAT WOULD BE IN THIS DISTRICT. I WILL DO MY BEST TO GET MR SEQUENCE. IN FACT, IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THE N C BOTH INCLUDED THAT WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE THAT MAP.IT'S NOT CURRENTLY LOADED BUT THAT WAS DONE TODAY. OKAY, SO YES, CND INCLUDED THAT WHICH IS BUT A DIDN'T SHOW THAT SO. I JUST SO IT'S ALRIGHT, WELL, BEEN NOTED. I KNOW WHAT TO DO AS FAR AS MAPS. I'LL EVEN HAVE THE BOARD'S NEXT TIME. I MEAN, IT'S JUST CREATE THE SAME PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE HAD TO THE MOTION IS CONTINUED THE ITEM TO THE 20TH. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. THANK YOU. OKAY? IT'S LESS BLOODSHED THAN I THOUGHT. WE WERE. CITIZEN COMMENTS ON
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MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA. WE HAVE ANYBODY TO PEOPLE. IN YOUR PORZIO. JUST DON'T RUIN YOUR COMMENTS FROM EARLIER. I REALLY APPRECIATED THOSE TOTALLY ON A LIGHTER NOTE. YOU'LL YOU'LL LIKE OKAY, JUST, UM DAN PORZIO 5500. MCKINNEY PLAYS DR MCKINNEY. RECENTLY I STOOD BEFORE YOU ALL AND SAID HOW CONCERNED I WAS ABOUT EDUCATION. AND THAT I WOULD DO WHATEVER I COULD DO.AND A WHILE BACK. COUNCIL MEMBER. HU TA GAVE ME THIS BOOK. BOOKLET. SO I LOOKED AT IT. I HAD NEVER HEARD OF IT. TOOK IT HOME. READ IT. I DO A LOT OF READING A LOT OF PHONE CALLS ON MY BACK PORCH. WHICH IS RIGHT ALONG THE SIDEWALK WHERE PEOPLE WALK THEIR DOGS. ALL THE KIDS GO TO SCHOOL, AND I MAKE IT A POINT. I MEAN, I'M LIVING IN AN APARTMENT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 40 YEARS, BUT I MAKE IT A POINT TO KNOW MY NEIGHBORS KNOW THE KIDS. SO ONE DAY JUST A FEW DAYS AGO. I'M READING THIS. AND THESE THREE THESE THREE YOUNG BLACK KIDS WALKED BY WITH THEIR BACKPACKS, AND THEY'RE ALL EXCITED ABOUT GOING TO SCHOOL. AND THEY SAID, WHAT DO YOU WHAT ARE YOU READING? I SAID, WELL, I'M I'M READING THIS BOOK ABOUT A PENCIL. AND I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO GET THAT. ON THEIR WAY HOME FROM SCHOOL. THEY STOPPED AGAIN. AND THEY SAID, WHAT COULD YOU TELL US? THE STORY ABOUT THE PENCIL? SO HERE'S THE QUICK RUNDOWN OF THE STORY ABOUT THE PENCIL. THE GREATEST NATURAL RESOURCE THAT THE WORLD HAS IS ALL THE CHILDREN IN IT. WELL, THEIR EYES GOT BIG. AND I'M YOU KNOW, I'M IN MY STORYTELLING, PASSIONATE RADIO VOICE. AND THE BOOK WAS WRITTEN IN 1958 BY READ. SO I ENGAGED THE CHILDREN AND I TALKED TO THEM. AND THIS IS A STORY ABOUT HOW A PENCIL IS MADE, WHERE ALL THE MATERIALS COME FROM, AND THE ALL OVER THE WORLD. AND IF YOU PRESENTED CORRECTLY. IT'S KIND OF COOL. IT WAS INTERESTING. SO I CONDENSED THE BOOK LIKE DOWN TO ABOUT FIVE MINUTES. AND THEY SAID, WOW, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE STORIES? I SAID, YEAH, I GOT PLENTY OF STORIES. SO I TOLD HIM HOW OLD THAT WAS. AND THIS ONE. THIS ONE LITTLE GIRLS HATE. WOW. YOU MUST HAVE A LOT OF STORIES YOU'VE LIVED IN TIME. ONE WITH SEVERAL OTHER KIDS. UH WHITE, BLACK HISPANIC. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A REAL WE HAVE A REAL STEW, MY APARTMENT COMPLEX, WHICH IS FINE. THAT'S HOW I GREW UP. SO I PERCEIVE TO TELL THEM ABOUT SOME OF THE HEROES THAT I HAD SPECIFICALLY BLACK HEROES. CAN I FINISH? I GOT TO HEAR THE END NOW. OKAY I TOLD THEM ABOUT GEORGE WASHINGTON CARVER. FREDERICK DOUGLASS, BOOKER T.
WASHINGTON CHARLES FRENCH JOHN MORTON FINNEY, WHO IS AN ATTORNEY LIVED TO BE 106. DR MILDRED JEFFERSON. EMILY BAILEY. WHO IS AN AIR FORCE PILOT DURING WORLD WAR TWO. ROBERT SMALLS,
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DENZEL WASHINGTON, DAVE CHAPPELLE, AND I GAVE THEM LITTLE SNIPPETS OF INFORMATION.WISDOM. ESPECIALLY FROM DENZEL AND DAVE CHAPPELLE. HE WERE FASCINATED. WE WANT TO HEAR MORE. WE WANT TO HEAR MORE. WE WANT TO HEAR MORE. AND I WAS TALKING TO MY WIFE ABOUT IT, I SAID. YEAH IF YOU DO A BIT IN THE RIGHT WAY FOR THESE KIDS. THEY WERE SHE FLEW AN AIRPLANE.
YEAH SHE FLEW A BOMBER IN WORLD WAR 21 OF THE FIRST. UM AND THIS FOR FINALLY THIS ONE GUY. THIS REALLY FASCINATED ME. UM A SLAVE . HIS NAME WAS WILLIAM CARD. CARNEY. AND DURING THE CIVIL WAR. HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR HOLDING THE REGIMENTAL COLORS. THE FLAG. WELL IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HISTORY, THE PERSON WHO HOLDS FLAG HAS AN ENORMOUS RESPONSIBILITY. HE WAS SHOT IN THE FACE. IN THE SHOULDER. IN THE ARM. IN THE LEGS. AND DID NOT LET THE COLORS HIT THE GROUND. I HAD TO EXPLAIN THAT TO THE KIDS, THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT BUT THEIR MOUTHS. BEING A GAPE REMINDED ME OF HOW IMPORTANT IT IS. WE GUIDE THEM, WE GIVE THEM THE FREEDOM.
TO LEARN. TO LEARN AND QUESTION AND TELL THEM STORIES. SO I DID WAS TELL THEM A STORY. SO THANK YOU, PATRICK. IT ENRICHED MY LIFE AND IT ENRICH THEIRS ME THY GUY, SO THAT'S FINE. BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE COMING TO ME AND SAYING TELL US ANOTHER STORY. TELL US ANOTHER STORY. SO NOW I GO TO THE POOL, AND I TELL THEM STORIES THAT THE FLOOR SO ANYWAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
AND CAN I JUST SAY REALLY QUICK, BLACK HISTORY IS AMERICAN HISTORY, SO HOPEFULLY I SAID BLACK HISTORY IS AMERICAN HISTORY. YEAH THESE STORIES ARE NOT JUST HOLD TO BLACK AND BROWN KIDS, KIDS EVERYWHERE IN THIS CITY, AND THIS IS WHAT WE STRUGGLE WITH. SOMETIMES WITH EDUCATION IS INCLUDING A LOT OF THESE THINGS BECAUSE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEIR BUSINESS. I'M GLAD YOU'RE TELLING THE STORIES. I JUST HOPE THEY'RE TOLD TO ALL KIDS. WE COULD GO ON AND ON AND ON. I MEAN, THERE'S SO JUST TO MCKINNEY WAIT TILL I START WITH MCKINNEY HISTORY. THANK YOU, LOU ROTTENBERG. MY NAME IS LUCY A ROTENBERG. I LIVE AT THREE OR TO ONE BLUE STAGE DRIVE SHORT, GUYS, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WATER. UM FOR ONE THING. IN THE LAST STORM. TWO HOUSES CAUGHT FIRE BY LIGHTNING OVER IN FRISCO AND WAS THINKING ABOUT HOW MANY THOUSANDS OF GALLONS OF WATER HAVE TO BE PUT ON A HOUSE THAT'S ON. FIRE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TO SEE. THE BUILDING CODE. ADJUST. SO THAT TOO HOUSE REQUIRED. ROD. IT GOOD FOR THE YEAR OF THE HOMEOWNER, OF COURSE, BUT I THINK WHAT THE CITY COULD SAVE NOT ONLY IN WATER BUT YOU KNOW, AND EQUIPMENT AND LIVES, ENVIRONMENT AND ALL THAT SO THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADJUSTED ON THE BUILDING. COUNT ANOTHER THING I'D LIKE TO SEE ADJUSTED IS TO REQUIRE RECIRCULATING HOT WATER PUMPS IN THE HOUSES. THE BEST INVESTMENT I MADE WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I SPENT $2500 ON ONE. I HAVE A TWO STORY HOUSE AND ALL THE BATHROOMS ARE WELL. THREE OF THE BATHROOMS ARE UPSTAIRS. YOU'VE RUN. TONS OF WATER DOWN THE DRAIN, WAITING TO GET HOT WATER UP THERE NOT ANYMORE. AND I THINK THAT LOOK HOW MANY GALLONS OF WATER THE CITY COULD SAY IF WE REQUIRED THE BUILDERS TO PUT IN THOSE HOT WATER RECIRCULATING PUMPS. THE OTHER WATER TOPIC IS ARTIFICIAL TURF. NOW I AM JENNIFER WOULD TELL YOU I WAS ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS WHERE WE TALK ABOUT THIS, AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THE CITY THIS TIME PROHIBITS ARTIFICIAL TURF. I THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY IN THE BACKYARD, AND SHE SAID, WELL, THEY ARE PROPOSING THAT IT WOULD BE AS BUT NOBODY SEES YOUR BACKYARD. YOU KNOW, I DRIVE DOWN THE STREET. I SEE YOUR FRONT YARD.
I'D LIKE TO SEE A NICE GREEN YARD THAT DOESN'T NEED AND BOWED THAT DOESN'T HAVE WEEDS IN IT AND ALL THIS STUFF NOW WHAT I WOULD SAY BY DOING THIS, AND WE'RE GOING TO SAVE WATER, OF COURSE, BECAUSE YOU NO LONGER HAVE TO WORRY. I GOT $225 WATER BILL THE LAST TWO MONTHS IT IT'S JUST ME. I'M JUST AN OLD WHERE A WOMAN YEAH, YOU CAN'T BELIEVE IT , UH, PEOPLE WOULD NO LONGER BE
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PUTTING ON WEED KILLER YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO PUT ON FERTILIZER. THAT STUFF RUNS OFF INTO THE WATER, AND I BACK UP TO A POND. SO ALL THAT STUFF GOES DOWN IN THE POND. THE GRASS CLIPPINGS AND IT ANNOYS THE TAR OUT OF ME WHERE I SEE PEOPLE BLOWING THEIR GRASS CLIPPINGS OUT IN THE STREET AND IF THERE'S A DRAIN SEWER DRAIN THING. THERE THEY GO BLOW IT DOWN THE CULVERT AND OF COURSE THAT MESSES UP. YOU KNOW OUR DRAINAGE, TOO. WE COULD HAVE CLEANER AIR IF WE HAD ARTIFICIAL TURF, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THESE LITTLE ENGINES AND MAUER'S OUT THERE RUNNING.SO ALSO, WE COULD MAYBE PEOPLE COULD GET RID OF THEIR LAWN MOWER THERE AT YOUR THEM NOW THE BLOWER YOU PROBABLY NEED TO KEEP YOU KNOW THE WEEDY ALL THIS STUFF. AT ME. THEY START PARKING THEIR CARS IN THE GARAGE INSTEAD OF ON THE STREET THEN, AND THE OTHER THING IS, UH, ARTIFICIAL TURF. ONE OF THE REASONS I'M WANTING MY BACKYARD IS BECAUSE OF ALLERGIES. MY GRAND DOG HAS ALLERGIC TO GRASS. MY HUSBAND WAS ALSO AND SO NOBODY IS ALLERGIC TO ARTIFICIAL TURF. SO ANYWAY, BUT MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT. WHEN I WAS LOOKING OVER , WE'RE LOOKING OVER THESE COWARDS AND LOOKING OVER THESE TREELESS HAD TO BE A MISTAKE. THEY PUT BALD CYPRUS ON THE GOOD TREE LIST. THAT IS A HORRIBLE TREE. MESSY AS ALL GET OUT. REDS UP ABOVE IT, RIGHT. I CATEGORIZE IT RIGHT IN THERE WITH COTTONWOOD AND BRADFORD PEAR AND I DO THINK YOU SHOULD BAN COTTONWOOD BREAD FROM PAIR AND BALD CYPRESS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE AT THE END OF OUR
[COUNCIL AND MANAGER COMMENTS]
EVENING. I THINK LEFT IS COUNCIL AND MANAGER COMMENTS. MR PHILLIPS. YOU CAN BREATHE THESE HERE ON THE SHELVES NOW. TEXAS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL. MY GOD. THIS YEAR. NEXT WEEK STARTS MARKS THE START OF HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL SEASON THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. YOU CAN CATCH MCKINNEY, NORTH, MCKINNEY AND BOYD. I THINK IN THAT ORDER AT THE MCKINNEY STADIUM, WE'VE GOT THREE HOME OPENERS, GET OUT THERE AND SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL GUYS. THE ONE THING I WILL SAY THERE IS SOME FAMILIAR NAMES. AH AND DAVE CAMPBELL'S REGARDING MCKINNEY, NORTH MARKOWITZ BROTHERS, WHO WERE TWINS, WHO WON NOW PLAYS QUARTERBACK FOR SYRACUSE, THE OTHERS CENTER FOR TEXAS STATE. THEY PLAYED HERE TWO YEARS AGO AND THEIR BABY BROTHERS COMING THROUGH THE LINE UP AS A JUNIOR. 65 240. HE'S RUNNING A 48 AS A JUNIOR, SO THAT'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF MEAT.THAT MOVES REALLY QUICKLY. IT WILL BE FUN TO WATCH. YOU ALSO HAVE THE CONSTANTINE NAME IS BACK. QUARTERBACK AGAIN AT MCKINNEY NORTH, AND IT SHOULD BE A FUN SEASON OUT THERE, SO GET OUT THERE AND SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL TEAMS IF YOU WOULD, AND COUNCILMAN MILLER, WOULD YOU PLEASE PUT YOUR CHIN UP FOR ME? YEAH. THANK YOU. SO I DON'T HAVE A LOT TONIGHT, BUT JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF LEADERSHIP. MCKINNEY UM CURRENT MEMBERS OF LEADERSHIP MCKINNEY IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY THEY STARTED THERE HAD THE ORIENTATION AND RETREAT ALREADY DONE SO THAT GROUP IS UNDERWAY REALLY PROUD OF THE GROUP THAT WE HAVE THIS YEAR ALSO JUST WANTED TO THANK COUNCILMAN BELLA FOR HAVING A TAILGATE PARTY SO THAT WE CAN WATCH GHETTO PAINT THE SILOS, AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OVER THERE, MAN, HE'S MAKING PROGRESS. IT LOOKS AMAZING, REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THE OUTCOME OF THAT ONE. SO THANK YOU, JUSTIN. UM JUST ONE REAL QUICK THING. LAST WEEK I ATTENDED THE FUNERAL OF A YOUNG MAN. HE WAS 21 YEARS OLD. HIS NAME WAS JANSEN. MORSE. UM AND HE HAD JUST FINISHED A SERVICE MISSION FOR OUR CHURCH. HE HAD WORKED IN THE SAMARITAN IN HERE IN MCKINNEY, THE FOOD PANTRY. HE HE WAS A KID YOUNG MAN WHO WHO, UM, JUST DID A LOT OF SERVICE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY FOR TWO YEARS THAT HE GAVE HIS LIFE TO JUST DO NOTHING BUT SERVICE AND HE WAS TRAGICALLY KILLED IN A CAR WRECK AND WHERE HIS FATHER WAS, UM INJURED AS WELL. UM BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A HEADS UP TO JANSEN MORRIS, WHO WAS HE WILL BE MISSED. THAT'S ALL. BILLY. THE DOCTOR FELT HAS SAID THE TWO THINGS THAT I HAD WRITTEN DOWN SO I WILL MAKE MY COMMENT THAT I WILL AGREE WITH EVERYTHING WHO CIA SAID SO.
THAT'S MY COUNSEL COMMENTS FOR TONIGHT. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING I'LL SAY BRIEFLY, MR MAYOR, THAT I'VE OFFICE IN THE DOWNTOWN SQUARE FOR 24 A HALF YEARS NOW ABOVE WHAT'S CURRENTLY
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ALMA HORE. AND YESTERDAY WE HAD A FIRE A COUPLE DOORS DOWN THE RESTAURANT, RIDE THE BACK OF IT.WENT ON FIRE. AND IT WAS ABOUT 30 FT FROM MY OFFICE AND I HAD TO DECIDE. YOU KNOW WHAT AM I GOING TO TAKE, AND I SAT THERE FOR MEN. THERE'S ALL THIS STUFF. I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA TAKE MY COMPUTER AND I TOOK MY COMPUTER BUT BEFORE I GOT DOWNSTAIRS. AND BELIEVE ME, I WAS EXPEDITIOUS AND MY GETTING DOWNSTAIRS. THE FIRE TRUCK WAS ALREADY THERE. UH, AND THE MCKINNEY FIRE DEPARTMENT. PUT THAT OUT IN NO TIME. NOW RISE SEEMS TO HAVE SOME RATHER PROFOUND DAMAGE IN THE BACK OF THE SHOP. MY FRIEND HAL HARBOR ALSO HAS SOME DAMAGE HIS LITTLE INSURANCE AGENCY, WHICH SHARES A COMMON WALL WITH THEM, BUT HUGE KUDOS TO MCKINNEY FIRE FOR EVERYTHING THEY DID YESTERDAY. THEY PUT ON A CLINIC OUT THERE FOR US, AND WE ALSO MUCH APPRECIATED IT. SO I'VE GOT I HAVE NOTHING TO SEE ME, SIR. UM JUSTIN, GREAT JOB ON THE TAILGATE PARTY. THAT WAS THAT WAS WELL DONE, WELL ATTENDED AND IT WAS FUN TO BE THERE FOR GHETTO, BUT JUST THE COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER. THAT WAS REALLY GREAT. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU HAD THAT HAD THAT THOUGHT AND CARRIED, UH, CARRIED TO FRUITION, AND I THINK IT WAS WELL RECEIVED BY EVERYBODY. SO WITH THAT MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND ON FAVOR, RIGHT?
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