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ALRIGHT ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT GOOD EVENING. IT IS SIX PM AND WELCOME TO THE CITY. MCKINNEY'S
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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF TUESDAY, OCTOBER 25TH 2022 THE COMMISSIONERS YOU SEE, SEATED BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING HAVE BEEN APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND THEY SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY COUNCIL. SOME ITEMS HEARD TONIGHT WILL BE HEARD ONLY BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND OTHERS WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL. TONIGHT I OR OUR ELECTED CHAIR WILL ADVISE THE AUDIENCE IF THE CASE WILL GO ON TO COUNSEL OR WILL BE HEARD ONLY BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN AGENDA ITEM. PLEASE COMPLETE A SPEAKER CARD AND TURN IT INTO STAFF PRIOR TO THE AGENDA ITEM BEING CALLED. WHEN IT IS YOUR TURN TO SPEAK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. PLEASE LIMIT YOUR REMARKS TO THREE MINUTES. YOU MAY ONLY SPEAK ONE TIME ON EACH AGENDA ITEM. THE COMMISSIONER'S REQUEST THAT WE ALL TREAT EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT, FOCUSED ON THE ISSUE AND BE CONCISE IN YOUR COMMENTS. I WANT TO STRESS TO EACH OF YOU THAT YOUR OPINION IS IMPORTANT AND THEY WILL BECOME A PART OF THE CITY'S PUBLIC RECORD. WE ALL WANT TO ACT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITIZENS OF MCKINNEY. OKAY THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ITEMS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. THIS WOULD INCLUDE OUR CONSENT AGENDA OR OUR PLAT CONSIDERATION ITEMS. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? OKAY? SEEING NONE WILL MOVE TO[Election of the Chair and Vice-Chair]
OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS A CALL FOR THE ELECTION OF THE CHAIR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THE NEW CHAIRPERSON NOMINATED BILL COX FOR CHAIRMAN. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR MR COX. OKAY, A SECOND BY MR MAN SAI. WE'LL CALL FOR A VOTE.IT'S NOT PULLING UP. YEAH WE'RE HAVING A PROBLEM. NOT COMING UP . ALRIGHT IF YOU'RE HAVING A IF YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE JUST RAISE YOUR HAND UNDER THE VERBAL OKAY? AND THAT MOTION PASSES WITH A VOTE OF 70 AND MR COX WILL BE THE CHAIRPERSON AND I WILL HAPPILY TURN IT OVER TO YOU NOW . THANK YOU, MR ARNOLD. NICE WORK MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONFIDENCE IN HOW THESE MEETINGS ARE RUN UNDER APPRECIATE IT. MOVING ON. OUR NEXT ITEM WILL BE CALLED FOR AN ELECTION OF THE VICE CHAIR OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION THAT WE HAVE EMOTION. COMMOTION. A MAN'S EYE TO BE CO CHAIR MOTION DAMAGE TO WOODWARD TO NOMINATE, UM BRIAN MAN'S EYES, VICE CHAIR, PLANNING AND ZONING. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? AND WE HAVE MULTIPLE SECONDS. MR. BUCKNER GETS THE SECOND THERE. UM. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. IF YOU ARE ABLE IF YOU'RE NOT, WE WILL RAISE OUR HANDS.
HEARD YOU GET EVERYBODY. THE MOTION CARRIES MISTER MAYNES I CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU, SIR . APPRECIATE IT. JUST SO YOU KNOW THE CHECK SIZE DID NOT INCREASE THIS YEAR. ACTUALLY IT DOUBLED. OKAY, UM. OUR NEXT TIME WILL BE TOO BOAT ONLY CONCERN ITEMS. WE HAVE TWO SETS OF
[CONSENT ITEMS]
MINUTES. AND THEN A GENERAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO VOTE ON WILL VOTE ON THE MINUTES 1ST 1ST ITEM. 22 DAYS. 0991 THE MINISTER , THE PLANNING HIS OWN COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING OF OCTOBER THE 11 2022 THEN NEXT TIME AND WE'LL BE 22 DAYS 099 TO THE MINUTES OF THE PLAYING HIS OWN COMMISSION WORK SESSION OF OCTOBER. 11TH 2022, DO WE HAVE ANY CHANGES? MR CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A CHANGE THAT HAD MYSELF TO THE MEETINGS LAST TIME ON OCTOBER 11TH. AS A MEMBER OF PRESIDENT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER CHANGES? AND WE HAVE A MOTION TO IMPROVE THE MINUTES AS AMENDED. MOTION TO APPROVE MINUTES AS AMENDED. MOTION BY MR BURNS AND APPROVED THE MINUTES AS AMENDED BY MR LEBEAU AND THERE ANY QUESTIONS? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MODI. LEBEAU.[00:05:12]
THERE WE GO. THE MOTION CARRIES THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED, MR TAYLOR.JUST LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT I'M STEPPING DOWN THE NEXT FOUR ITEMS. WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM ON THE CONSIDERED ITEMS. THIS IS I DON'T 22 DAYS 0001 GDP. CONSIDER GENERAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR MCKINNEY HORIZONS. THIS IS ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF BLOOMINGDALE ROAD AND FUTURE HARDENED BOULEVARD. CAITLYN, YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR US? I DID NOT . THIS IS A SIMILAR GENERAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WE SAW EARLIER THIS YEAR. THE CHANGES JUST TO ADJUST SOME OF THOSE DISTRICT LOT LINES ON THE GENERAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THANK YOU. MEMBERS WHO HAVE EMOTION TO APPROVE OR TO ACT ON THIS GDP. LIKE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE GDP. DAMAGE TO MEN'S ARE TO ACCEPT THE GDP. SECOND MANAGED TO REBUILD. WE NEED DISCUSSION. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. SO YOU CAN JUST. THERE WE GO. YES, TERRY. DO WE HAVE AN ABSTENTION? WE DID FOR COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. THE MOTION CARRIES A GDP IS APPROVED NEXT ITEM. WILL BE, UM. WE HAVE
[PLAT CONSIDERATION UNDER TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 212]
SEVERAL PLANT ITEMS TO CONSIDER FIRST ANIMALS TO TWO DAYS. 0197 PF PRELIMINARY FINAL PLAN FROM MCKINNEY RIDGE PHASE TWO EDITION. ON THE EAST SIDE OF FUTURE HARDENED BOULEVARD, 700 FT NORTH OF BLOOMINGDALE ROAD. THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THE NEXT ITEM IS 22 DAYS, 0 TO 00. PRELIMINARY FINAL PLANT FOR BALLOON DALE 1 40 WEST EDITION. EAST SIDE OF FUTURE HARDENED BOULEVARD IN THE NORTH SIDE OF BLOOMINGDALE ROAD STAFF RECOMMENDING DISAPPROVAL. AND DUE TO LACK OF ITS CONFORMANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL NEXT TO TWO DAYS, 0 TO 01. PF PRELIMINARY FINAL PLANT. FOR MADEIRA MCKINNEY EDITION. THIS IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BLOOMINGDALE ROAD. 600 FT EAST TO FUTURE HARDENED BOULEVARD.START RECOMMENDS THIS APPROVAL DUE TO ITS LACK OF CONFORMANCE MEMBERS DO HAVE A MOTION ON THESE FIRST FOUR FLATS. MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THE FOURTH CLASS. EMOTION ON MR MAN'S EYE TO ACCEPT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. SECOND MISTER WATLEY UNI DISCUSSION. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. UNTIL LOCKDOWN. NEW GUY GETS WALKED OUT OR TRY. THAT MOTION CARRIES SOURCE PLANTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED AS PER STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. YOU GOT HIM? NEXT TIME. UM I HAVE TWO MORE PLANTS TO TWO DAYS. 0203 PF PRELIMINARY FINAL PLANT FOR PAINTED TREE, MULTI FAMILY THIS IS ONLY NORTHEAST CORNER OF LAKE FOREST DRIVE AND WILMOTH ROAD STAFF RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. AND OUR LAST PLANT THIS EVENING IS TO TWO DAYS 0 TO 06. PRELIMINARY FINAL PLAN FOR THE CANVAS. IT BLOOMED. L EDITION THIS IS IN THE MCKINNEY E. T. J ON THE NORTH SIDE OF COUNTY ROAD, 1 64. 2500 FT WEST OF COMMUNITY AVENUE. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THESE LAST TWO PLANTS. MOTION APPROVED THE PLANTS WITH CONDITIONS FROM STAFF. NO SHAME MR WOODRUFF TO A PREVENTS PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION. 2ND 2ND VIRUS TO LABEL ANY DISCUSSION.
AND THE MOTION CARRIES THOSE PLANTS HAVE BEEN IMPROVED, WILL NOW MOVE TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Variance to a Landscape Plan for Louisiana Retail, Located at 1719 West Louisiana Street]
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ITEMS. THE FIRST ITEM IS 22 DAYS 004 SP PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER VARIANTS TO LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR LOUISIANA RETAIL SAYS THAT 17 19 WEST LOUISIANA STREET, LEXI.I'M A LITTLE CLICKER IS NOT WORKING. HUH? I'M TRYING TO TURN ON.
SORRY IT'S NOT WANTING TO WORK FOR ME STILL. THAT'S NOT. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT OUR NIGHT.
ALL RIGHT. OKAY SO THIS IS A VARIANCE REQUEST TO OUR LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS FOR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AT THE CORNER OF LOUISIANA AND WILSON CREEK. TYPICALLY SITE PLANS ARE REVIEWED. AT THE STAFF LEVEL. HOWEVER THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A VARIANCE, WHICH REQUIRES CONSIDERATION BY PNC. THE APPLICANT HAS SATISFIED ON LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT EXCEPT FOR PROVIDING A 20 FT LANDSCAPE. BUFFER ALONG BOTH ROAD FRONTAGE IS THE APPLICANTS REQUESTING TO REDUCE THE REGULAR 20 FT. BUFFER TO A 10 FT BUFFER DUE TO SITE LIMITATIONS. SO DUE TO THE SHAPE OF THE EXISTING LOT IN THE SAFE FEATURES THAT ARE REQUIRED INCLUDED WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE, THE APPLICANT IS UNABLE TO MEET THE 20 FT LANDSCAPE BUFFER REQUIREMENT. SIMILAR LANDSCAPE BUFFER WITS ARE SEEING ALONG BOTH LOUISIANA AND WILSON CREEK. OUR LANDSCAPE ORGANS ALSO REQUIRES THE PLANTING OF ONE CANOPY TREE PER 40 LINEAR FEET OF STREET FRONTAGE AND THOSE REQUIRED LANDSCAPE OFFERS ALONG THE THOROUGHFARES. HOWEVER THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT PERMIT TREES TO BE PLANTED WITHIN EIGHT FT OF PUBLIC UTILITY LINES. THERE ARE WATER AND SEWER LINES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY OF LOUISIANA, MAKING THE APPLICANT UNABLE TO PLANT THE TREES IN THAT LANDSCAPE OFFER. THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED WITH STAFF TO FIND AN ALTERNATE SOLUTION THAT PROVIDES THE REQUIRED SCREENING ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY IN YES. LANDSCAPE ISLANDS HERE, UM, SO IT'S STILL SUPPLYING THE SCREENING AND MEETING THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE. UM. WITH THE CONFORMANCE WITH ADJACENT PROPERTIES. LANDSCAPE BUFFERS THE ALTERNATIVE DESIGN OF PLANTING CANOPY TREES WITHIN THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE ISLANDS AND THE REQUESTED VARIANTS, KEEPING WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE REGULATIONS. STAFF IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE REQUEST AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE HAS PRESENTED. THEY WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS. ANYONE. NOTICE THAT THIS. NOTE THAT THIS WAS SIMILAR TO PROPERTIES ALREADY ACROSS THE STREET AND SIMILAR ALONG THE STREET. AND THIS SEEMS TO BE MORE LANDSCAPING NOTICE CURRENTLY PRESENT ON THE SIDE OR HISTORICALLY BEEN PRESENT. CORRECT. ON THIS SITE PLAN. NOTHING NOT THIS EXHIBIT. BUT THERE'S A SITE PLAN EXHIBIT LANDSCAPE. CHOOSE DOWN SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH GOES ON THE APARTMENTS TO THE SOUTH 24 FT FIRE LANE. IS THAT IN WHICH IS AN APARTMENT DROVE IT THIS MORNING. IS THAT FIRE LEAN, DEDICATED SOMEHOW. THROUGH THROUGH THIS USER IS IT JUST HAPPENS TO SHOW UP ON THIS SITE PLAN SO THAT ONE SHOULD BE FOR THE APARTMENTS. SO THIS ONE IT IS FOR THE APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT , SO THEY'RE JUST SHOWING IT AS PART OF THE CONTEXT OF THE SITE PLAN PLAN DOESN'T INCLUDE THAT FIRE LINE. CURIOSITY. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE USES ARE? SO THE PROPOSED USE CURRENTLY IS A LAUNDROMAT AND CONVENIENCE STORE. OTHER QUESTIONS ANYONE? LEXI. THANK YOU AS OUR APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MADAM IS HOUSHANG GIOVANNI GIOVANNI CONSULTING ENGINEERS ADDRESS IS 21 21, NORTH JERSEY LANE. SORRY, 200 CARROLLTON. 75006. THE ENGINEER FOR THIS PROJECT, THEN ALSO WORKED ON THE LANDSCAPE PLANS.
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FOR THIS SITE. AS WE KNOW THIS CITED RIGHT NOW IS FOR THE CAR WASH. IT'S ABOUT HAPPY ACRE SITE VERY SMALL. AND BECAUSE OF THE DIMENSION OF THE SIDE, WE COULDN'T PROVIDE THIS 20 FT LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT THE CITY IS REQUIRED ALONG HERE WEST LOUISIANA STREET. AH! BECAUSE OF THAT. WE ELIMINATED ABOUT THREE PARKING SPACES IN THE FRONT. TO COMPENSATE FOR THE TREES THAT WE NEED TO MEET THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS FOR THE LANDSCAPE OFFER. SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE DONE. HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. THE. ONE ARE YOU PLAYING THE SELL ALCOHOL? I'M TRYING TO PULL UP ON MY PHONE RIGHT NOW. BUT HOW CLOSE ARE YOU GONNA BE THAT CHURCH? NOTHING YET. THE SITE RIGHT NOW. THE OWNER IS PLANNING TO BUILD THEIR RETAIL BUILDING DEPENDS ON WHO COMES AND ASKS FOR. AH! WHAT KIND OF LISA SIGNED WITH TENANTS , THEN? NOT YET KNOW. WE HAVE THIS PLANS ABOUT. MORE THAN THREE YEARS AGO IN 2019. WE SUBMITTED THIS PLAN TO THE CITY AT THAT TIME. THE OUR BERRIES DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT 10 FT LANDSCAPE BUFFERING BECAUSE WE PROVIDED MUCH MORE LANDSCAPE AT THE INTERSECTIONS. IF YOU CAN SEE THAT'S ABOUT 30 FT CORNER, CLINTON GIVING US THAT LANDSCAPE OPERATING IN THAT CORNER, SO HE WAS OKAY WITH IT AT THAT TIMES. BUT THEN BECAUSE OF THE CORONAVIRUSES, EVERYTHING EVERYTHING IS THOUGHT THAT WE COULD HAVE GOT IT APPROVED THAT THEIR TOWNS AND BUILT IT, BUT THEN YOU PUT IT ON THE SIDE FOR A FEW YEARS AND NOW THE CLIENT THEY JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO AND THEN IT STARTED. OKAY SO THE TWO TENANTS THAT WERE MENTIONED BY STAFF THAT'S WHAT THE OWNER IS THINKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. YEAH.THERE'S A REFERENCE IN YOUR LETTER OF INTENT. REASON FOR THE REDUCTION IS WHEN YOU WERE ASKING FOR THE VARIANCES, IT WOULD REDUCE THE SIZE OF YOUR BUILDING BECAUSE THE BUILDING IT'S ABOUT. 50 FT DEEP IF IT GOES ANOTHER ATTENDED BEFORE HE IS NOT GOING TO BE DEEP ENOUGH FOR ANY KIND OF BUSINESS BECAUSE ANYBODY ALL THESE RETOLD BUSINESSES, SOMEONE ELSE THEY WANT TO HAVE AT LEAST 55 TO 65 FT DEEP AND THEN WHEN IT GOES LESS THAN 50 IT'S NOT GONNA WORK. ONE OF THE THINGS WE TRY TO PROTECT OUR THE ENTRANCES INTO MCKINNEY. AND THIS IS A VERY HIGHLY TRAVELED AREA WHEN YOU INTERMITTENT KENYA FOR THE FIRST TIME FROM HOW WE 75 SO TO REDUCE THE LANDSCAPING ON A HIGHLY VISIBLE SIGHT IS A LITTLE CONCERNING. NO WE PROVIDED THE LANDSCAPE ACCORDING TO WHATEVER THE CITY'S REQUIRED THE NUMBER OF TREES AND THE SHOPS WE PROVIDED. AS I SAID THE REMOVED THE LAST ONE. WE REMOVED THREE PARKING SPACES IF YOU CAN SEE IT BETWEEN THE TWO PARKING SPACES THERE IS AN ISLAND IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO PARKING ISLAND. UM JUST TO PROVIDE MORAL LANDSCAPE. IN THE FRONT, RIGHT? I SEE THE PARKING SPACES THAT THAT YOU GAVE UP. I GUESS IN THE COMMENT WASN'T VERY WELL. OR DID REVERENCE FOR LANDSCAPE. REQUEST IT'S JUST A LITTLE CONCERNING. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH YOUR SITE PLAN. THANK YOU. YOU'VE DONE THE BEST YOU COULD. UM. YEAH LET'S HOPE THAT IT'S APPEALING TO THE EYE WHEN YOU DRIVE INTO MCKINNEY. RIGHT NOW. IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD, BUT THEY'RE OLD. CAR WASH OVER THERE, SO IT'S GONNA LOOK MUCH BETTER SAYING WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING, IT'S BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE. SURE OKAY. OLD CAR WASH. YEAH, OKAY. ANY OTHER. SPORTS OPINIONS ON THIS. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE GATEWAY TO THE MOST CHERISHED PART OF OUR CITY. AND IF ANYTHING, WE OUGHT TO BE INCREASING, NOT DECREASING. LOOK AT THE BUILDING RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, THE DENTIST MCKINNEY DENTIST. LOOK AT THEIR 20 FT, BUT BUFFER. AND WHAT DIFFERENCE IT MAKES. I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS. SURPRISED. THE BUILDING IS ALREADY LESS THAN 5000 SQUARE FEET ABOUT 4500 SQUARE FEET. REDUCING THE BUILDING AND ALSO
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THE DEPTH OF THE BUILDING. THAT'S NOT GONNA WORK. FOR THE BUSINESS, NOT THE SIZE OF THE BUILDINGS, NOT THE DEPTH OF THE BUILDING. AND FOR THE LANDSCAPE . WE PROVIDE THIS AS WE PROVIDE THE LANDSCAPE OVER BE PROVIDED ANOTHER 20 FT, BUT THE NUMBER OF TREES AND THE SHRUBS WE HAVE PROVIDED THEM QUIET. IT'S NOT THAT WE'D. REDUCE IT TO FROM 20 FT TO 10 P, THEN REDUCED NUMBER OF LANDSCAPES, NO PEOPLE ABOUT IT MORE TREES AND MORE JOBS OVER YEAH, I THINK YOU NEED TO BUFFER. WHETHER IT'S. LANDSCAPING OR JUST GRASS IS NOT JUST ANOTHER GRASS. I'M JUST SAYING, EVEN IF IT WERE JUST GRASS. SO IF WE STICK WITH THE CURRENT ORDINANCE THAT REDUCES YOUR 45 90. SQUARE FOOT BUILDING BY HOW MUCH. YOU SAID 10. FT IS NOT JUST THIS QUARTER. FOR IT IS THE DEPTH OF THE BUILDING. THE DEPTH IS NOT ENOUGH FOR ANY KIND OF RETAIL. YOU'RE 47 A HALF RIGHT NOW. 37 IS NOT GONNA WORK WITH ANYBODY. MOST OF THIS IS THE RETAIL. THEY WANT AT LEAST 55 FT. MUST. SO YEAH. YEAH. WHAT WILL DO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS SO WELL. WE'LL TAKE WHAT DID THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS AFTER WE'LL CALL YOUR INDOOR STAFF BACK UP, OKAY, THANKS FOR BEING HERE. THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING ENEMY IF YOU COME TO NINE AND WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS PROPOSED, UM, VARIANTS OF THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. MAKE A MOTION CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. EMOTIONAL MR MEN'S ADDED CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 2ND 2ND MARRIAGE TO WHAT LEE? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES OF PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED. NOW WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS OF EITHER THE APPLICANT OR STAFF MEMBERS. YOU WON SCOTT. WHAT IS THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY ZONED. IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED BIEN NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS. WHAT DOES THAT WORK IN THE NEW LEGACY WITH THE NEW LEGACY? COMING UP TO NOVEMBER, 15TH. RATIFICATION OF THE NEW CODE. HOW WILL THAT WORK IN TERMS OF THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT OR IN TERMS OF USES? UH WELL USES IT WOULD COINCIDE WITH THE NEW COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT EQUIVALENT. UM AND IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THOSE COMMERCIAL USES WHATEVER WOULD BE PROPOSED FOR THE NEW CODE AND THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS. THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE NEW LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS, WHICH I BELIEVE ARE THE SAME AS OUR CURRENT CODE REQUIRES. UM SO WE DO HAVE THAT SIX MONTHS DUAL CODE WINDOW WHERE AN APPLICANT COULD CHOOSE TO DEVELOP UNDER THE CURRENT CODE, OR THEY COULD CHOOSE TO DEVELOP UNDER THE NEW CODE. BUT I THINK IN THIS INSTANCE THAT THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE TWO AND PROBABLY BE INCONSEQUENTIAL IN TERMS OF USES AND LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS. YEAH. SO TWO STAFF. IS THAT RELATES TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF LOUISIANA? IS THIS GOING TO CONFORM WITH BUT WE HAVE AT THE WHAT IS IT THAT QUICK? CAR. LOU PLACE AND EVERYTHING ALONGSIDE. YES, I THINK. YEAH THERE'S SO THAT'S A BETTER VIEW. SO THE QUICK CAR LOU IS DIRECTLY TO THE EAST THERE, SO THERE WAS LIKELY ORIGINALLY A WIDER BUFFER. BUT WITH THE EXPANSION OF LOUISIANA OVER THE YEARS, UM THE BUFFERS KIND OF GOTTEN EATEN AWAY ON THE FRONT. SO UM, JUST MEASURING FROM THE AERIAL THAT BUFFER IS ABOUT EIGHT FT. SO IT'S SMALLER[00:25:01]
THAN THAT 10 FT THAT IS BEING REQUESTED HERE. UM AND THERE'S VIRTUALLY NO BUFFER ON FURTHER DOWN LIKE THE FLOWER SHOP. UM SO IT WOULD BE IN CONFORMANCE OR SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT TO WHAT'S ALREADY THERE. THANK YOU. I DO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER TAYLOR ABOUT BEING, UH, TAKING NOTICE ABOUT THE ENTRY IN THE MCKINNEY IN THE AREA. AND THAT THE DENTAL ACROSS THE STREET DOES PRESENT BETTER. OUR DO THINK STAFF AND THE APPLICANT HAVE WORKED WELL, GIVING THE 30 FT CORNER BUFFER.AND THEN DOING THE ISLAND TREES, WHICH WILL GIVE IT MORE DEPTH. UM AS FAR AS THAT GOES THIS WHOLE STRIP IS GOING TO BE VERY HARD IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE A 20 FT WITHOUT MAKING THESE LOTS ALMOST OBSOLESCENCE ALL THE WAY TO 75 DOWN. AND EVEN THE DENTAL OFFICE ACROSS THE STREET. NEXT TO IT.
STOP OPTOMETRIST, AND THEIRS IS EVEN SKINNIER THERE. IT'S A MATTER OF THE WIDENING OVER THE ROADS OF THE HISTORY AND THE HISTORY OF NOT HAVING GOOD LANDSCAPE, MY AFFAIRS AS A WHOLE. BUT I DO THINK STAFF AND THE APPLICANT HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB FOR WHAT IS ALLOWABLE HERE CAN BE ACHIEVED ON THIS CORNER. SMOKES. I STRUGGLE WITH IT. IT'S WE'RE GETTING INTO THE TENCENT SETBACK, TOO. BASICALLY ACHIEVED A 47 FT BUILDING, WHICH IS GOING TO BE HARD TO LEASE. IT'S NOT GONNA BE OPTIMAL. IT WOULD ONLY BE 37 FT, WHICH WOULD BE UNLEASHED DOUBLE IF WE WENT UNDER THE EXISTING BUILDING. THE QUESTION IS, DO WE GIVE A AND FOOT SETBACK TO FORCE EXIST.
THIS TYPE OF BUILDING VERSUS THEY THE BUILDING. WE CAN 3000 SQUARE FOOT. DIFFERENT USE. I'M STRUGGLING BACK AND FORTH WHICH WAY TO GO. MR IS IT STILL OPTIMAL 47 FT BUILDING REALLY GOING TO WORK? I KNOW WHICH WAY I'M GONNA VOTE YET, BUT THAT'S THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE USE OF THE AUTOMOTIVE USES THAT GO IN THERE BASED ON THE DEPTH OF A BUILDING TODAY. THE OPTIMAL. 60 TO 80. IN RETAIL. HMM. AND 47 YOU DON'T SEE. SO YOU SAW BACK IN THE 60 SEVENTIES. YOU'RE NOT SEEING THAT BUILT. FAIRLY OFTEN TODAY. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS STEVE GOOD. WHAT IN THE LETTER OF INTENT. UM. HE SAYS, LEXI, I ASK YOU A QUESTION. THE LETTER INTENT, SAYS COIN LAUNDROMAT AND CONVENIENCE STORE. IT DOESN'T SAY MAYBE IT'S HIS MY IT SAYS. IS GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED FOR ACORN LAUNDRY MAT. SO HAS A SITE PLAN BEEN SUBMITTED. YES SO THIS VARIANCE REQUEST AS PART OF THAT SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS. UM SO THE SITE PLAN IS APPROVED OTHER THAN THE VARIANCE REQUEST.
ANYONE ELSE? ANYMORE QUESTIONS. ABOUT EMOTION. MAKE A MOTION TO DENY.
MOTION BY MR TAYLOR TO DENY THE REQUEST. FOR THE VARIANCE. SECOND. SECOND HOUR. SHALL LEBEAU. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ANY DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. OCEAN HEIRS TO DENY THE REQUEST. ALRIGHT THE MOTION PASSES VOTE OF FIVE IN FAVOR AND TWO AGAINST THE VERY INTO REQUESTS HAS BEEN DENIED. THE STAFF WILL, UM LEXI. INFORM THE APPLICANT. HIS NEXT IS OPTIONS. THANK YOU. NEXT TIME I'M 22 DAYS , 0017 ISSUE P A PUBLIC HEARING
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit Request to Allow for Commercial Amusement (Indoor) Use (Horse’s Axe), Located at 212 East Louisiana Street]
REQUEST. TO CONSIDER A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INDOOR USE.THIS IS A TO 12 EAST LOUISIANA STREET. SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A COMMERCIAL INDOOR AMUSEMENT USE LOCATED 2 12, EAST LOUISIANA. THE SITE IS CURRENTLY LOCATED BETWEEN THE PANTRY AND CARPI DIEM COMICS ON LOUISIANA L SHOPS, RESTAURANTS AND OFFICES.
THE PROPOSED BUSINESS IS AN AX THROWING AND ARCADE ENTERTAINMENT VENUE. WHICH IS
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LESS LESS REPRESENTED IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. STAFF FIELDS OF THE PROPOSED ENTERTAINMENT USE MAY BRING ADDITIONAL VISITORS INTO DOWNTOWN, WHICH COULD BENEFIT EXISTING BUSINESSES WITH ADDED FOOT TRAFFIC AND CUSTOMERS IN THE AREA. THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THEY WILL BE INSTALLING ACTS DURING LANES AS WELL AS GAME AND LOUNGE AREAS. THE ACTS THROWING LANES ARE THE DARK GRAY PORTIONS OF THE PLAN THAT'S CURRENTLY UP, THEY WILL BE ORIENTED TOWARDS THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. SO ANY POINT OF IMPACT IS NOT GOING TOWARDS THE EXTERIOR WALLS. RUBBER MATS AND ADDITIONAL INSULATION IS ALSO USED FOR SOME MITIGATION, GIVEN THE ORIENTATION OF THE LANES AND PROPOSED ON MITIGATION EFFORTS, FIELDS OF THE USE WILL NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT AND ADJACENT BUSINESSES. IT IS STAFF'S OPINION THAT THE PROPOSED INDOOR AMUSEMENT USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES. AND THUS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE S U P AND I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, LEXI QUESTIONS OF STAFF. AND HOW DO YOU GET TO. DEFINING WHAT IS INDOOR AMUSEMENT. AND WHAT IS A BAR, WHICH JUST ACCESS INSTEAD OF DARTS. SO GENERALLY, INDOOR AMUSEMENT IS FOR THOSE ARCADE TYPE USES, OR LIKE BILLIARDS, THINGS LIKE THAT THE PRIVATE CLUB USE IS MORE FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOL AS THE PRIMARY BUSINESS , SO IT'S JUST BASICALLY JUST DEPENDS ON WHICH IS THE PRIMARY USE IS THE APPLICANT DISCUSS, UM THE PERCENTAGE OF INCOME THEY ARE USUALLY ARRIVED FROM ONE OF THESE COMPARING THE AXIS FROM THEIR LIQUOR SALES BECAUSE I NOTICED IT NOTES WITHIN THE APPLICATION LIQUOR SALES. I WILL DEFER THAT QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT. I'M NOT SURE OF THE EXACT PERCENTAGE OF THEIR SALES OTHER QUESTIONS. LIKE THE THANK YOU. IS THERE APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT? YES. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. UM DR J. PEARSON AT 1001 MASON STREET. EVERY TEXAS I'M ANDREW DUNCAN. AND WE ARE THE CO OWNERS OF THE HORSES. AX DRAGON ACTS DO BUSINESS AS THE HORSES X GREAT. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE IF YOU COULD GIVE US SOME IDEA OF HOW THIS WORKS. ALRIGHT SO WE ARE PRIMARILY AN AX THROWING VENUE. SO THE QUESTION THAT WAS PROPOSED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER WAS HOW MUCH ALCOHOL SALES AND OUR OTHER TWO LOCATIONS. IT'S BEEN AROUND 21 TO 25% WHILE UNDERNEATH THE 51% OF WHAT WE MAKE IT INTO A BAR.UM, SO OUR LOCATION WE'LL OFFER BILLIARDS AND ACTS DRAWING AGAIN. THAT'S OUR PRIMARY INCOME SOURCE. AND THE ALCOHOL IS JUST A LIKE A CONCESSIONARY. THE QUESTION IS THERE FOOD ALSO SERVED? WE'LL HAVE SNACKS. WE WILL NOT HAVE AN OVEN. THE SPACE REALLY DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THAT KITCHEN, THE KITCHEN ALSO WE DON'T WANT TO COMPETE WITH MELLOW AND THE PANTRY AND EVERYBODY ELSE RIGHT THERE. THERE'S ALSO A TWO DRINK LIMIT. FOR OUR. HAVE QUESTIONS. UM SO IT'S CURRENTLY THIS BUILDING IS EMPTY. YES AND HAVE YOU LOOKED AT OTHER USES FOR IT? WE HAVE NOT. WE ARE THE OWNERS LEASING. OKAY? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO LOCATIONS DIDN'T DENNISON, WHAT IS YOUR TYPICAL CLIENTELE AND BUSIEST HOURS. UM TYPICAL CLIENTELE IS GOING TO BE AGED DEMOGRAPHICS BETWEEN ABOUT 22 TO ABOUT 40. THAT'S DOWN IN DENTON DENNISON. WE SEE A LITTLE BIT OF AN OLDER CLIENTELE COMING INTO INTO THE LOCATION, FAMILIES AS WELL. YEAH THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PULL IN. BUT THE DENTIST AND LOCATION BEING A DOWNTOWN LOCATION, MUCH LIKE WHAT THE MCKINNEY LOCATIONS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT A LOT MORE FOOT TRAFFIC, SO PULLING IN THOSE FAMILIES. WE DON'T HAVE AN AGE RESTRICTION ONTO THE DRAWING . SO WE HAVE FLOMAX IS FOR YOU KNOW VERY SMALL ONES. WE HAVE VERY INTENSIVE COACHING, AND WE'RE THERE TO HELP THEM OUT. SO I'VE HAD SEVEN YEAR OLD GIRLS COMING INTO ME AND THAT THEY'RE KICKING MY BUTT, YOU KNOW, AND I'M SUPPOSED TO BE AN EXPERT AT THIS. SO WE SEE EVERYBODY HAVING FUN WITH IT, AND JUST BEING ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD OUR BUSIEST HOURS DOWN INTO DENTAL LOCATION
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. WE USUALLY SEE AROUND SIX TO ABOUT NINE. UM BUT WITH SOME A LITTLE BIT BEFORE AND AFTER, UM , FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS, AND WHAT WOULD YOU SAY WITH VENISON ABOUT SAYING IT DOESN'T LEAGUE PLAY. SO WE HAVE THE HORSES, AX THROWING LEAGUES. WE DO THAT THE 1ST 1ST THURSDAY OF EACH MONTH.PRIMARILY PEOPLE JUST WALKING IN SETTING UP RESERVATIONS. MHM. REGULAR CROWD COMING IN, RIGHT? WE HOPE TO GET THE REGULARS TO COME INTO THE EXTRA. WE HAVE OFFER A EXTRA IN CLUB MEMBERSHIP WHERE YOU GET TO BUY YOUR ACTS. TAKE THE ACTS HOME WITH THE EVERY TIME YOU BRING IT IN. IT'S A DISCOUNT OFF THROWING AS WELL ENGRAVINGS SO YOU CAN PERSONALIZE. ONE MORE SORRY. UH HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION WITH ADJACENT BUSINESS OWNERS. WE VISITED CARPET YOU NEXT DOOR.
HE'S PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT IT, AND WE ALSO WENT TO THE PANTRY NEXT DOOR AND HAD DISCUSSION EVER KNOWN. EVERYONE SEEMS EXCITED. SO KIDS. HMM MY KIDS. WE LIKE TO HEAR THAT? OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IF YOU COME TONIGHT AND WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE PERMANENT.
PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. THE PUBLIC FORUM AND APPROVED FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. EMOTIONAL MR WOOD OR TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVED THE ANIMUS FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. OKAY.
SECOND BY MR LEBEAU, WE NEED DISCUSSION. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. THE MOTION CARRIES YOU ON AND WILL BE SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FOR FINAL ELECTION. NOVEMBER 1 2022 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. NEXT TIME IS 22-0112 Z. THIS IS A PUBLIC
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “AG” - Agricultural District to “PD” - Planned Development District, to Allow for Age Restricted Residential Uses and to Modify the Development Standards, Located Approximately 510 Feet North of Virginia Parkway and Approximately 260 Feet West of Joplin Drive]
HEARING REQUESTS TO REZONE A PROPERTY FROM AG TWO PD TO ALLOW FOR AGES RESTRICTED RESIDENTIAL USES. TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. THIS IS 500 FT. NORTH OF VIRGINIA PARKWAY. 260 FT.WEST OF JOPLIN. DR SHEFFIELD, THANK YOU. SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE THE ITEM TO THE NOVEMBER 8TH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. DUE TO CONCERNS OF A POTENTIAL NOTICE ERROR. WE HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN AN ISSUE WITH THE DELIVERY OF THE PROPERTY OWNER NOTIFICATIONS THAT WERE MAILED OUT, UM OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION STAFF IS REQUESTING TO TABLE THE ITEM AND WE WILL BE MAILING OUT NEW NOTICES THIS WEEK. I'LL STAY IN FOR ANY QUESTIONS. AT THE LATE GREAT HEARING TABLING INDEFINITELY AND WILL RE NOTICE. YES, SIR. OH, DO YOU WANT TO NOTE THE ANTICIPATED DATE? YES SO THAT WOULD BE THE NOVEMBER 8TH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. SO WHAT WE'RE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE ITEM BE TABLED DUE TO A NOTIFICATION ERROR. IN THOSE RESIDENTS LIVING IN THE AREA. SOME DID NOT GET A NOTICE. SO STAFFERS RECOMMENDING THE PUBLIC HEARING BE CLOSED TO THE ITEM TABLED. THEY WILL RE NOTIFYING INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND DO THIS ALL AGAIN. THE ANTICIPATED DATE FOR THAT HEARING IS NOVEMBER, THE EIGHTH. RIGHT? THAT WOULD BE GOOD. QUESTIONS OF STAFF. OKAY? THANK YOU. CAITLIN IS THE APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT? YES. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS STAFF . MY NAME IS CASEY BOMB WITH BONNER CARRINGTON IN THE APPLICANT 91 MORE PACK EXPRESSWAY SOUTH AUSTIN, TEXAS 78746. AH! REALLY DISAPPOINTED, WAS PREPARED TO GO THROUGH OUR PRESENTATION. BUT IF THAT'S STATIC, I'D LOVE TO PRESENT. IF WE'RE ABLE. I'LL OBVIOUSLY SERVE IT YOUR PLEASURE AND GIVEN IF THE DECISION IS FOR EXTRA TIME. I'M NOT GOING TO WASTE THAT. I'M GOING TO CONTINUE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHICH IS GETTING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY IN ADDRESSING CONCERNS. UM FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DIDN'T SEE THIS. WE CAME IN JUNE UNDER THIS TOPIC STEPPED IN IT REALLY GOOD. AND, UH, REALLY WENT BACK AND WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD SCRAPPED THE ORIGINAL PLANS AND BROUGHT BACK SOMETHING THAT WE THINK IS EXCITING FOR THIS
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UNIQUE LOCATION. AND SO, COMMISSIONER AND COMMISSIONERS ALL SERVE AT YOUR PLEASURE TONIGHT IF I'M ABLE TO PRESENT I WOULD LOVE TO, BUT BEYOND THAT WE'LL SEE YA. HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK OR IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT HERE? YES HOW MANY UNITS ARE GOING TO BE PLANNED FOR? THIS CONCEPT PLAN IN THE CONCEPT PLAN UNDER THE PD. WE'RE MAXING IT LIKE 15.5 AN ACRE, WHICH WOULD LIMIT IT RIGHT AROUND 200 UNITS. THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT YOU SEE IN THE PACKAGE IS AT 180. OTHER QUESTIONS, ANYONE? RUSS? YOU SAID 108 180180. AND AS A MOTHER JUST THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN DOING. WE HAVE IN ADDITION TO THE NOTIFICATIONS THAT THE STAFF SENT OUT, WE AS THE APPLICANT TOOK EVERYONE THAT OPPOSED THE LAST ONE AND SENT THEM A UPS CERTIFY OR DELIVERED, TRACEABLE , DELIVERED LETTER WITH A REQUEST TO MEET THE STONE BRIDGE . UH FOLKS, WE MET WITH THEM LAST WEEK, AND WE ALSO MET WITH THE PRESIDENT AT CAMBRIDGE. SO THE WORD IS GETTING OUT THERE THAT WERE OUT AND SO EVEN THOUGH FROM A TECHNICALITY FROM STAFFS PERSPECTIVE, WE ARE DOING A I THINK A GOOD JOB BECAUSE YOU'LL SEE OTHER RESIDENTS HERE OF JUST LETTING PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S COMING AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS COMMUNITY CONCERNS AS THEY COME UP. IT'S APPRECIATED VERY MUCH VERY MUCH. MEMBERS ARE REAL. OKAY, IF IN IN THE SPIRIT OF TABLING ITEM THAT WE HOLD OFF ON HEARING THE PRESENTATION FOR UNTIL NOVEMBER, THE EIGHTH READY . OKAY I THINK WE'RE GONNA WAIT AND HAVE YOU COME BACK. UNDERSTOOD? THANK YOU. HOWEVER THIS IS NOT FOR YOU KNOW. THIS IS A AN ITEM THAT HAD A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED. SO IF YOU'VE MADE THE EFFORT TO BE HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME TO THE PODIUM.AND YOU ALSO ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO HOLD YOUR COMMENTS UNTIL NOVEMBER, THE EIGHTH BUT IF YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT, AND YOU LIKE THE WAY IN ON THIS, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO. TURRETS, TURD. TERRY. TERRY. SO I'LL JUST COME BACK AND LETTING NEXT TIME TO DO THE PRESENTATION. BUT I DO HAVE ONE COMMENT. THAT STATEMENT JUST MADE THAT EVERYONE THAT OPPOSED THIS LAST TIME GOT A NICE PACKAGE FROM UPS THAT EXPLAIN THINGS THAT'S INCORRECT BECAUSE I CAME HERE TO THE MEETING, WROTE MY NAME ON THE LIST IF YOU COULD FACE US KNOW, JUST IF YOU WILL ADDRESS US VERSUS SORRY. NO PROBLEM. NO PROBLEM. NAME IS PAULINE AND I'M AT 58 05. NORTHWOOD CREEK CIRCLE. AND SO YOU KNOW THAT STATEMENT THAT WAS MADE THAT SAID THAT WE GOT A NICE PACKAGE.
I WAS HERE LAST TIME IN A OPPOSED THIS IDEA, AND I DIDN'T RECEIVE ONE OF THOSE NICE PACKAGES. SO JUST FOR THE RECORD, OKAY? ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT? ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT MEMBERS TO HAVE EMOTION THAT CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING IN OCTOBER. THE ANIMUS FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION EMOTIONAL MEMBERS TO LEAVE OVER CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN TERRIBLY, ADAM.
SECOND. AND A SECOND BY MR WATLEY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. ANY DISCUSSION? CAST YOUR VOTES. THE MOTION CARRIES THE ITEM HAS BEEN TABLED. THE ANTICIPATED DATE IS NOVEMBER THE EIGHTH AND YOU WILL GET RE NOTIFIED. NEXT DYNAMISM 22-01220 PUBLIC HEARING REQUEST. TO REZONE A SUBJECT PROPERTY
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “C” - Planned Center District and “CC” - Corridor Commercial Overlay District to “LI” - Light Industrial District and “CC” - Corridor Commercial Overlay District, Located on the Southeast Corner of Bloomdale Road and U.S. Highway 75 (Central Expressway)]
FROM SEAPLANE CENTER AND COMMERCIAL COURT OR OVERLAY. TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND THIS IS ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER . BLOOMINGDALE ROAD IN U. S. HIGHWAY 75. LEXI. SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF BLOOM, DALE AND 75 FROM SEA PLANTS CENTER TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IN ORDER TO DEVELOP A TRAILER SALES . BUSINESS REQUEST FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING ON THE PROPERTY ALLIANCE WITH THE EMPLOYMENT MIX PLACE TYPE THAT'S DESIGNATED HERE FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WHICH DOES CALL FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES AND THE PROPOSED YOU SHOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING AND PROPOSED ADJACENT USES NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH OF THIS TRACT HAVE SIMILAR ZONING, ZEN ESTABLISHED USES LIKE THE FREEDOM, POWER, SPORTS AND LANDMARK EQUIPMENT[00:45:01]
BUSINESSES, UM, DUE TO ITS CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THE COMPATIBILITY WAS SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS AND A GROWING INDUSTRIAL AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED REZONING REQUEST AND I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.THANK YOU, LEXI WITH THEIR QUESTIONS. THE CONCERN HERE IS THAT WE'RE TAKING A PIECE OF LAND OFF COMMERCIAL, WHICH, TYPICALLY, THAT'S BEEN THE OPPOSITE OF WHERE WE'VE TRIED TO DO THINGS. UM AND IT ACTUALLY BEING A HARD CORNER. WE HAVE ALLOWED THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO CREEP THROUGH THE WHOLE FROM MID BLOCK ALL THE WAY UP. THE CITY JUST PUT A VERY EXPENSIVE BRIDGE ACROSS BLOOMINGDALE THAT WANTS THE ROAD CONNECTS TO HARDEN WILL BECOME A MAYBE MAJOR ARTERY TO CARRY RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC FROM THE ACROSS 75 TO AND FROM WORK AS FAR AS THAT GOES, SO WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION LOOKED AT WHETHER THIS WAS WASN'T VIABLE AS COMMERCIAL. AND SO THE MAIN THING THAT WAS LOOKED AT WAS THE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE ADJACENT STONINGS AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES CALL FOR THE EMPLOYMENT MIX IN THIS AREA , WHICH DOES HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OFFICES AND INDUSTRIAL MOSTLY, SO IT'S MORE OF THOSE INTENSE TYPE OF USES THAT ARE DESIGNATED FOR THAT PLACE TYPE. BUT THOSE WERE THE MAIN CONSIDERATIONS FOR THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS. SO THIS TYPE OF ZONING ON THAT PROPERTY SO WHAT IS THE PLAN THAT I THINK ABOUT MEMBER SEEING PAST BLOOM BAIL TODAY RUNS INTO HIGHWAY FIVE THAT ENDS THERE TODAY. I THINK WE'VE DONE TAKING A WHOLE BUNCH OF RIGHT AWAY TO RUN THAT LOOP IT BACK DOWN TO 3 80 AT SOME POINT IS THAT CORRECT? WELFARE PLAN. SEEI HAVE ANY INFORMATION. AND WHERE EXACTLY THAT WILL BE LOCATED YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I'M SORRY . SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME BLOOM DALE HITTING INTO WHERE DID END STATE HIGHWAY FIVE. AND WE'VE DONE A LOT OF RIGHT AWAY TAKEN TO TAKE THAT ALL THE WAY EVENTUALLY DOWN TO 3 80, THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN. UH CURRENTLY ? YES I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT POTENTIAL CONNECTION IT WOULD BE UNDER REVIEW, DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF THE U. S 3 80 FEASIBILITY STUDY AND THE ROUTE THAT SELECTED BUT I THINK CURRENTLY THAT'S CORRECT. AND I THINK SOME LEVEL OF CONNECTION WITH ALWAYS BE ENVISIONED ON THE EAST SIDE OF FIVE FROM BLOOMINGDALE. SO IT COULD IT COULD THAT MAY NOT EXTEND BECAUSE THE 3 80 BLUE BYPASS WELL, BUT I THINK IT WILL LIKELY STILL EXTEND. BUT THE CLASSIFICATION OF ROADWAY WHETHER IT BE MAJOR OR MINOR COULD POTENTIALLY CHANGE DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH 3 80 BYPASSED BECAUSE THAT 3 80 BYPASSES NOT ONLY ENVISIONED TO GO EAST WEST, BUT IT'S ALSO ENVISION TO CONNECT DOWN BACK TO OLD 3 80 FROM UP THERE SO HOW THAT CONNECTION OCCURS AND THE CLASSIFICATION OF ROADWAYS YET TO BE DETERMINED AND THAT COULD POTENTIALLY IMPACT THIS CONNECTION HERE WILL EXTEND PAST CUSTER ON INTO PROSPER.
QUESTION. I DON'T SEE THE FREEDOM MOTORSPORTS IN THIS AERIAL MAP. YES SO THIS AERIAL MAP IS A LITTLE BIT OUTDATED FOR WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE, SO THE FREEDOM MOTORSPORTS IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE ON THIS PROPERTY, AND THEN THE LANDMARK EQUIPMENT THAT I NOTED, IS ONE PROPERTY SOUTH OF THAT. WELL THE AG PROPERTY TO THE EAST THAT'S STILL JUST OPEN LAND. SO THERE IS A CEMETERY ON THIS PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. THE REST OF THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE CITY. SO THERE IS A PUMP STATION ON PART OF THE PROPERTY , AND THERE IS ALSO THERE ARE ALSO PLANS FOR A NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT PUMP STATION THERE AS WELL. YEAH.
THIS IS ALL. OTHER QUESTIONS. IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OF THE FISCAL ANALYSIS AND IN THIS, UH UH, DECISION. IN TERMS OF TOPOGRAPHY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THOSE ARE NORMALLY ADDRESSED AT OUR SITE PLAN STAGE WITH OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, SO WE WOULD RECEIVE FURTHER PLANS AT THAT STAGE RIGHT NOW. OUR MAIN VIEW FOR THIS PROPOSAL IS THE ZONING. REMEMBER DID YOU ASK ABOUT THE FISCAL ANALYSIS? IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY, I'M SORRY TO SAY PHYSICAL I'LL LET YOU CHIME IN ON THE FISCAL ANALYSIS COMPONENT. CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR
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QUESTION ONE MORE TIME. I APOLOGIZE. YEAH I WAS JUST ASKING IF YOU KNOW, MAKING THIS DECISION LOOKING AT THE FISCAL ANALYSIS OF EXISTING ZONING VERSUS THE CHANGE. UM, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THAT DIFFERENCE? IT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. UM SO THERE IS NORMALLY THAT SIGNIFICANT CHANGE BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL MOVING TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL JUST BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE IN OUR FISCAL ANALYSIS MODEL THAT'S NORMALLY A TOOL THAT WE PROVIDE , BUT IT'S NOT A BASIS FOR DECISION WITHIN, UM PLANNING STAFF RECOMMENDATION. OKAY.THANK YOU. QUESTION. COULD YOU GIVE ME THE PERMITTED USES IN INDUSTRIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL? JUST THE EXCLUSIVE ONES? SURE THERE IS SOME INFORMATION IN THE STAFF REPORT FOR COMPARISON OF LAND USES, BUT GENERALLY FOR PLANTS CENTER. UM. THE USES ARE RELATIVELY SIMILAR, SO PLANT CENTER ALLOWS FOR VARIETY OF. COMMERCIAL USES RETAIL USES, UM LIKE RESTAURANTS, OFFICES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PLANTS CENTER AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS WITHIN THE AUTOMOBILE RELATED USES, AND THE INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING USES, UM SO SEE PLANTS CENTER REQUIRES SGPS FOR SOME USES. MM LIKE AUTO SALES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, UM AND THERE IS. THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCES WITHIN THE INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING USES THAT AREN'T PERMITTED IN SEA PLANTS CENTER NEARLY AT ALL. UM SO THIS CHANGE IN ZONING WOULD PERMIT THINGS LIKE WAREHOUSING. UM MANY WAREHOUSES, STORAGE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. YOU KNOW , BEING ACROSS FROM THE COURTHOUSE IS JUST INDUSTRIAL USE DOESN'T SEEM QUITE RIGHT. OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ANYONE? IF NOT, WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT COME UP. LEXI. THANK YOU. MR CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND BAR BRODER 1700 RED BUDS SUITE 300 MCKINNEY. ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. UM, I THINK THE STAFF REPORT UH WAS VERY THOROUGH, BUT I DO WANT TO ADDRESS THE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS THAT I'VE HEARD. OPPOSED FROM THE DAIS. THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AS I MENTIONED IN AN EMAIL THAT I SENT OUT TO YOU. HOPEFULLY YOU GOT IT AND READ IT. UH HAS BEEN UNDEVELOPED. SINCE HIGHWAY 75 CAME IN, AND THAT WAS IN THE SIXTIES. IT IS A CORNER HIT ON HIM WHEN YOU JUST THINK ABOUT LOGICAL LOCATIONS FOR RETAIL DEVELOPMENT AND THAT KIND OF THING YOU ALWAYS THINK ABOUT CORNERS LIKE THIS, BUT THERE'S SOME SOME ADVERSE IMPACTS TO TOP OF GRAPHICALLY AND OTHERWISE THAT EXIST ON THIS CORNER. YOU'LL NOTICE THE SHAPE OF THE TRACT. IT'S NARROW ALONG BLOOMINGDALE. AND IT'S LONG ALONG 75. IT'S ALSO BOUNDED ON THE EAST BY AH! UM, WHAT WAS? WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT? VERY YES. MCCLARY ROAD USED TO BE RED BUTTON. UM. THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT MY CLIENT HAS DONE TODAY INDICATE THAT THE TOPOGRAPHY AT THE NORTH END OF THE SIDE IS SUCH THAT IT CAN'T REALLY BE DEVELOPED. THERE'S A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE IN ELEVATION. THERE'S ALSO AN ISSUE WITH CURB CUTS GIVEN THE LOCATION OF HIGHWAY 75 IN THE CLERY ROAD, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY OUT OF MEDIAN BREAK THAT WOULD BE ACCESSIBLE THERE, AND THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY IS BASICALLY ALL IN THE FLOODPLAIN. THERE'S A CREEK. THAT SORT OF RUNS NORTH TO SOUTH ALONG THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. THE DEVELOPER WILL PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS REALLY THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE PROPERTY THAT EXTENDS OUT TO 75. ALONG THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY IS A FIRE LINE THAT WAS DEVELOPED BY POWERS. UH THE POWER SPORTS. UH, DEVELOPMENT.
AND, UH, AS LEXI HAS ALWAYS POINT ALREADY POINTED OUT TO THE EAST. THERE'S A CEMETERY. WHEN YOU FOLLOW THE BLOOMINGDALE FURTHER EAST TO FIND THE LAND THAT'S OWNED BY THE CITY OF
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MCKINNEY. YOU'VE GOT ALL THE COMPLEX FOR THE WATER PUMP STATIONS AND EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY HAS, ALONG WITH THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT. SO WHILE. THEORETICALLY IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD BE A GOOD LOCATION FOR A RETAIL SIDE. IT JUST TOOK TOPOGRAPHICALLY AND OTHER AND FOR OTHER REASONS THAT I'VE STATED DOESN'T WORK. SO FROM A FISCAL ANALYSIS PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THE MY ANALYSIS IS IT CAN SIT THERE AND REMAIN A TREED LOT. OR YOU CAN PUT IT IN THE COMMERCE. THIS PARTICULAR MY CLIENT IS INTERESTED IN DOING SOME OUTDOOR TRAILER CELLS THERE, WHICH MEANS IT WILL HAVE A SMALL FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING 7000 SQUARE FEET. AND THEN THERE WILL BE DISPLAY AREAS . THIS IS THE LARGEST TRAILER MANUFACTURER IN TEXAS LARGEST TRAILER RETAILER IN TEXAS. SO I THINK, UM OUR COMMISSIONER FROM UH, FROM A FISCAL PERSPECTIVE, YOU WILL HAVE SALES TAX, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'LL HAVE EMPLOYMENT THAT WOULD BE AVAILED BY THIS.THIS IS REALLY NOT A BUSINESS THAT DOES TRADER REPAIR. IT'S MAINLY A SALES AND BUSINESS. UMR QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. UH BUT I WOULD URGE YOUR FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION. TO THE CITY COUNCIL. MEMBERS. ARE THERE. QUESTIONS OF THE REST? I'M SORRY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ALBUM SALES TAX, AUTOMOBILES DON'T SALES TAX AND CITIES. THIS IS AN AUTOMOBILE PALACE WORK, SO IT IS THE TWO CENTS WOULD GO BACK TO THE CITY. AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER WOULD RIFFAT. I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE OKAY. AND ALL OF THAT. I DO KNOW THEY SELL. YOU KNOW, THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS HAS A LOT OF ADD ON A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT THEY SELL. AND ALL OF THAT WOULD BE TAXABLE. BUT THE FACT IT HAS AXLES AND WHEELS, AND I COULD TELL YOU FOR SURE. IT'S NOT A MOTORIZED VEHICLE. I KNOW THAT. SO YOU SAID THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY REPAIRS THERE.
BUT ALL THE TRAILERS MADE THEIR TRAILERS ARE NOT MADE. THEIR THEIR SHIPPED IN THE SIDE IS REALLY NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR A MANUFACTURING FACILITY. THEY MIGHT PUT TIRES OR WHEELS ON AXLES THERE. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU SEE THOSE THOSE TRAILERS SHIPPED IN STACKED ON TOP OF EACH OTHER AND SO THEY MIGHT INSTALL OF WHEELS ON THE AXLES. THEY MIGHT PUT. UM YOU KNOW, BOARDS ON OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT THERE'LL BE NO MANUFACTURING SUCH WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE A GUY OUT THERE WITH A CUTTING TORCH. NO OR KNOW ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU, MR ROEDER. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU COME TO NINE AND RELY TO WEIGH ON IN THIS PROPOSED REZONED. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION AND MR MAINS AND CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND MAN, MR WOODRUFF IS RUNNING DISCUSSION. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. AT THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED MEMBERS QUESTIONS, COMMENTS CONSIDERING THE INVESTMENT BY THE CITY IN BLOOM. DALE IT'S EXTENSION ALL THE WAY TO CUSTER. ALONG WITH ALL THE COUNTY OFFICES BEING CATTY CORNER THIS I JUST CAN'T MOVE IN FAVOR OF TAKING A HARD CORNER INTRODUCED TRAILER SALES, SO I'LL BE OPPOSING IT. ANYONE ELSE? QUESTIONS COMMENTS MOTIONS . I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO THE NIGHT. CASE 220122 Z REZONING MOTION WAS STILL LEBEAU TO DENY THE REQUEST. UH, FOR THE APPLICANTS REQUEST SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND 2ND 2ND AND MR MAN'S EYES OR ANY DISCUSSION. CAST YOUR VOTE. THE MOTION IS TO DENY THE APPLICANT REQUEST. AT THE MOTION FAILS ABOUT VOTE OF THREE IN FAVOR AND FOR AGAINST MR ARNOLD, DO WE NEED TO BUT AGAIN YES, SIR. MEMBERS SHOULD WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE. EMOTIONAL MR TAYLOR TO APPROVE THE ANIMALS PER APPLICANT REQUEST. SECOND BY MR WATLEY JOURNEY DISCUSSION. CAST YOUR VOTE. THE MOTION CARRIES ABOUT VOTER
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FOUR IN FAVOR AND THREE AGAINST THE ON AND WILL BE SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. FOR FINAL ACTION WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION AT THE NOVEMBER 15 2022 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THAT CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA ITEMS. THE NEXT ITEM WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. ALRIGHT NEXT TIME, UM MEMBERS, COMMENTS FROM STAFF OR[COMMISSION AND STAFF COMMENTS]
FROM PNC MEMBERS? MISS ARNOLD FOR ME? YOU WANT MY CLASSMATES FROM LEADERSHIP MCKINNEY OUT THERE IN 2023 LEADERSHIP. MCKINNEY WILL YOU RAISE YOUR HAND, RIGHT? THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. NEW MEMBERS WELCOME WELCOME. WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE. WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE. UM THANK YOU. STAFF WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS DO VERY MUCH. WE DO NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SHE DID ADJOURN, MR WOODRUFF. SECOND BY. MR TAYLOR. MR. WOODRUFF MOVES THAT WE ADJOURN THIS MEETING SECOND AND MR TAYLOR ALWAYS IN FAVOR. SAY AYE, THOSE OPPOSED* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.