Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request by the North Texas Municipal Water District (“NTMWD”) for a Grant by the City of McKinney of Sanitary Sewer Easements Primarily Under and Across Public Land Owned by the City that is Designated as Parkland, Which Parkland is Generally Located Approximately 2,000 feet east of SH 5 and just south of Harry McKillop Boulevard, for the Construction and Installation of Sanitary Sewer Force Mains for the Mutual Benefit of NTMWD and the Public and Accompanying Ordinance

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request by the North Texas Municipal Water District (“NTMWD”) for a Grant by the City of McKinney of Sanitary Sewer Easements Primarily Under and Across Public Land Owned by the City that is Designated as Parkland, Which Parkland is Generally Located Approximately 2,000 feet east of SH 5 and just south of Harry McKillop Boulevard, for the Construction and Installation of Sanitary Sewer Force Mains for the Mutual Benefit of NTMWD and the Public and Accompanying Ordinance]

COUNCIL. THE FIRST ITEM IS 221073 CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ACT ON A REQUEST BY THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT FOR A GRANT BY THE CITY OF MCKINNEY OF SANITARY SEWER EASEMENTS, PRIMARILY UNDER AND ACROSS PUBLIC LAND OWNED BY THE CITY AS DESIGNATED AS PARKLAND. WHICH PARKLAND IS GENERALLY LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 2000 FT. EAST OF HIGHWAY FIVE, JUST SOUTH OF HARRY MCKILLOP BOULEVARD FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND INSTALLATION OF SANITARY SEWER FORCE MAINS FOR THE MUTUAL BENEFIT OF NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT AND THE PUBLIC AND ACCOMPANYING ORDINANCE. HELLO, MICHAEL. MR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL MICHEL HEBERT , ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER. I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF THESE BEFORE THIS ITEM GRANTS AUTHORITY FOR THE CITY MANAGER. TO EXECUTE EASTMAN DOCUMENTS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT. WASTEWATER FORCE MAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE EAST OF HIGHWAY FIVE AND SOUTH OF HARRY MCKILLOP BOULEVARD THIS SEASON IS ON THE CLOSED LANDFILL PROPERTY, AND AS SUCH, IT HAS LITTLE TO NO IMPACT ON PARK PROPERTY ON PARK OPERATIONS. UM, BUT SINCE THIS IS PARK PROPERTY, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE STATE PROCESS WITHIN, WHICH INCLUDES A PUBLIC HEARING. UM AND ALSO TO DETERMINE THAT THERE IS NO FEASIBLE ALTERNATIVE TO THE SELECTIVE ROUTE. THIS HAS BEEN DONE AND WE HAVE FOLLOWED THE STATE PROCESS AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND MR MARK SIMON IS AGAIN COME TO GIVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THE PROPOSED PROJECT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL HERE TO PRESENT ON THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING THESE PERMANENT EASEMENTS. WHAT DID YOU MAKE ANY USE THIS THING TO ADVANCE? OKAY SO THIS IS FOR A PROJECT THAT WE CALL THE WILSON CREEK TRANSFER FORCE MEANS THE GOAL IS PROJECT IS A TRANSFER. SANITARY SEWER FLOWS FROM CITY OF MCKINNEY AND SOME OTHER NEARBY COMMUNITIES FROM THIS TO THE NEW SISTER GROUP FACILITY THAT'S LOCATED. NORTHEASTERN MCKINNEY. UH THE PURPOSE OF THE PROJECT TO COLLECT WASTE WATER IN THESE COMMUNITIES AND TRANSFER IT. THIS IS ABOUT THREE MILES OF PIPELINE THROUGH THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. IT'S 2 42 INCH PIPELINES THAT CARRY APPROXIMATELY 80 MILLION GALLONS PEAK FLOW. AH SANITARY SEWER AND ULTIMATELY TO THE SISTER GROW FACILITY. THE CONSTRUCTION IS ANTICIPATED TO START IN THE SPRING OF 2023 FINISHED SOMETIME LATE IN 2024. UM, AS MICHAEL SHOWED THERE'S A. THIS IS THE GENERAL ROUTE THAT STARTS AT THE AH MCKINNEY CLOSED MCKINNEY LANDFILL TRANS GOES UNDERNEATH HARRY MCKILLOP BOULEVARD AND THEN UP AIRPORT DRIVE TO THE NORTH MCKINNEY LIFT STATION, AND THEN WE'LL IN THE NORTH MCKINNEY TRANSFER LIST STATION. THOSE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS PART OF THE SISTER GROVE PROJECT. HERE'S A BLOW UP OF THE

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AREA. YOU CAN SEE. THIS IS A CLOSED LANDFILL OVER THERE ON THE UPPER LEFT IS THE EXISTING WILSON CREEK LIFT STATION, WHICH IS UNDER CURRENT EXPANSION. WE'RE ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL PUMPING CAPACITY. THE YELLOW LINES REPRESENT THE ALIGNMENT OF THE TWO PIPELINES WERE PROPOSING TO PUT IN THE AREA. THE BLUE DASH LINES SHOW. ALTERNATIVES THAT WE EVALUATED AND EACH OF THEM HAS A CHALLENGE. I'LL SHOW A CLOSER BLOW UP. WHAT I WANT TO SHOW HERE IS THERE'S AN EXISTING AH ABOVE GRADE BUILDING THAT'S USED BY NORTH TEXAS FOR PART OF THE LANDFILL OPERATIONS THAT WE CONDUCT THEIR MAINLY IT'S GAS FLARE FACILITY AND SOME OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. THERE'S TWO DOTS THERE THAT SHOW PROPOSED METER VAULTS AND THEN AN AIR AND AIR VALVE AND ODOR CONTROL UNIT.

AH! WE'LL GO TO A BLOW UP HERE. SO THIS WILL TRAVERSE THE PARKLAND. BUT IT WAS THE ONLY VIABLE OPTION AFTER YOU LOOK AT THE TEXT DOT ALIGNMENT FOR THE 3 99. SPUR AND, UM THIS IS CONSTRUCTED BLE. IT'S ACCESSIBLE AND IT DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH EXISTING CITY MCKINNEY UTILITIES . IT WILL CROSS THE TEXT DOTS PER 3 99 AT A LOCATION THAT'S BEEN COORDINATED WITH THEM TO AVOID. UH, THE BRIDGE PILINGS THAT THEY'RE USING TO SUPPORT THE ELEVATED ROADWAY. Y'ALL ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENTS WERE EVALUATED, BUT THERE WAS EITHER INSUFFICIENT AREA OR SPACE FOR US TO HAVE ACCESS OR THEY CONFLICTED WITH EITHER EXISTING UNDERGROUND UTILITIES OR PROPOSED UNDERGROUND UTILITIES. AND, OF COURSE, THE ROADWAY ITSELF. SO HERE IF YOU LOOK AT THIS AND A BLOW UP OF THE AREA. YOU CAN SEE THE AREA IN PINK THERE IS TO PROPOSE 3 99 SPUR.

THIS IS THE PREFERRED ALIGNMENT . UM YOU CAN SEE IN THE AREA TO THE NORTH. THERE IS EXISTENCE CITY OF MCKINNEY, WATER MAINS AND THEIR EASEMENTS AND THEN SOUTH OF THERE WERE TRYING TO PUT OUR PROPOSED FORCE MEANS, UM IN THE ALIGNMENT AND COOPERATION WITH TEXT DOT AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION THERE OF ONE OF THE PROPOSED METER VAULTS WAS THE CIRCLE. SO THIS JUST SHOWS AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE EXISTING FACILITIES ARE ALREADY THERE, THERE ON THE TOP PICTURE THAT IS THE WILSON CREEK LIFT STATION. AND THEN THE BOTTOM. IT'S THE LITTLE MAINTENANCE BUILDING, AND THEN THERE'S A FENCED IN YARD FOR THE FLARE FACILITY. WHILE WE ARE ADDING SOME ABOVE GROUND, APPURTENANCES. THEY'RE NOT, UM EXTREMELY INTRUSIVE AND I'LL SHOW YOU A PICTURE HERE OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK LIKE. SO HERE'S AN EXAMPLE ON THE LEFT LOWER LEFT OF WHAT ONE OF THE METER VAULT OF MANHOLE ACCESS WILL LOOK LIKE. AND THEN ON THE RIDE THAT IS, UH, ODOR CONTROL CANISTER FOR ONE OF THE AIR VALVES. SO WE'RE PROPOSING APPROXIMATELY 1.7 ACRES OF PERMANENT EASEMENT AND ANOTHER HALF ACRE OF TEMPORARIES MINTS ON THIS PROPERTY. UM THE RECOMMENDED ALIGNMENT IS THE MOST OPTIMAL ALIGNMENT, AND IT'S FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS. IT AVOIDS CONFLICTS WITH EXISTING CITY MCKINNEY UTILITIES AND THE TEXT DOT SPUR 3 99, AND IT WAS BEING COORDINATED ALREADY WITH TECH START TO AVOID ANY CONFLICTS WITH THEIR CONSTRUCTION. AND WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS. SO BECAUSE IT'S IT TALKED ABOUT PARKLAND OR WE ARE WE ARE WE TO ASSUME THAT THIS MOUNTAIN OF DEBRIS THAT SPEWS OUT GASSES, A PARKLAND. SO IT'S BEEN DECLARED PARKLAND CITY OF MCKINNEY. UM YEAH, THE AREA THAT WE'RE GOING IN THERE. IT'S NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL OPERATIONAL PART OF THE LANDFILL. IT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO HAVE CLOSED LANDFILLS AS PART OF THE PARK'S MASTER PLAN PART OF THE SYSTEM, AND THERE IS EVEN THE ONE OF THE TRACKS ACTUALLY, SAYS PARKS ON THE COLLEGE KID RECORD ON THE COLLIN COUNTY D OR RECORDS. SO IT IS CONSIDERED PROPERTY. OKAY UM, I GUESS I GUESS WE WILL. NOW THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE HERE COMPLAINING THAT WE GOT SOMETHING GOING THROUGH A PARK IS NOT HERE TO DEFEND HIM. MAJKOWSKI, UH, LONG TIME AGO WHEN WE DID CLOSE THE LANDFILL, WE TRY TO IDENTIFY FUTURE USES. AND RIGHT NOW THERE'S A GAS EXTRACTION ON TOP OF THE RIGHT. EVENTUALLY THERE WAS AND COULDN'T CAN'T BE PLANS FOR EQUESTRIAN AND SOME OTHER USES. IN THE FUTURE, WHICH IS WHY THEY PUT THIS PARCEL INTO THE PARK.

THE MASTER PLAN, AND SO EVENTUALLY IT CAN BE, UH, YOUR LIVES FOR PARK USE. OKAY. JUST I WAS CURIOUS, AND THEN I THOUGHT, WELL, MAYBE THAT'S CONSIDERED PART OF PLANS FOR IT. HE JUST ISN'T HERE TONIGHT. OKAY IF SOMEBODY CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH IT, MIKE COULD SO I'M

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HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE IN MY THE OTHER HALF QUESTIONS. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? HMM SEEN NONE ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVED THIS ITEM SECOND. CAST YOUR VOTES.

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “AG” - Agricultural District to “PD” - Planned Development District, to Allow for Age Restricted Residential Uses and to Modify the Development Standards, Located Approximately 510 Feet North of Virginia Parkway and Approximately 260 Feet West of Joplin Drive, and Accompanying Ordinance (REQUEST TO BE TABLED)]

THANK YOU. THANK YOU EXCITE HIM. 220112 Z THREE CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AND ACT ON REQUEST TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO ALLOW AID RESTRICTED RESIDENTIAL USES AND TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 510 FT NORTH OF VIRGINIA PARKWAY. 260 FT. WEST OF JOPLIN DRIVE AND ACCOMPANYING ORDINANCE, AND I KNOW THIS ITEM HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO BE TABLED. IT HAS UM. I KNOW I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS TO MAKE ON IT. UH, IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE THAT HAS COME DOWN HERE EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEEN TABLED? THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO IT. OKAY UM, THIS ITEM HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO BE TABLED UNTIL AN INDEFINITE. THEY HAVE REQUESTED A TABLE IT TO THE DECEMBER 6TH MEETING. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU, JENNIFER. UM FIRST I WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. I CERTAINLY AND ALL THE COMMENTS I'M GOING TO MAKE CERTAINLY DO NOT TAKE AWAY FROM MY EMPATHY I HAVE, FOR OF COURSE, THE HOMEOWNERS AND WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE OR NOT SEE? YEAH, I GUESS I NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SHOULD WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? CONTINUE CONTINUAL, TAILING JUST CAN BE CONTINUED. UM CERTAINLY HAVE EMPATHY FOR ALL THE HOMEOWNERS AROUND, BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT DO THAT DO CONCERN ME. UM ONE AND SPEAKING WITH THE DEVELOPER WHO BY TAKING AT AND I DO FACE VALUE THAT THEY HAVE MADE A TREMENDOUS EFFORT TO TRY TO SPEAK WITH EACH HOMEOWNER, CONTACTING EVERY SINGLE HOME CALLING EVERY SINGLE HOME THEY COULD GET A NUMBER OF EMAILING EVERY SINGLE HOME UNDERSTANDING OUT. LETTERS CERTIFIED LETTERS AND HAS NOT HAD ANY SUCCESS HAVING ANYONE ACTUALLY SIT AT THE TABLE, SO IT IS CONCERNING TO ME. WHEN, UM. WHEN THERE'S THIS EFFORT AND TO NOT SIT AT THE TABLE. UM AND HEAR SOMEBODY OUT AND AT LEAST GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH IN DETAIL WHAT THE PLAN IS TO THEN COME AND SAY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE THEY'VE THEY HAVE CONTEMPLATED LISTEN, CONSIDERED BUT ARE OPPOSED. I'M TELLING YOU FOR ME, I'M I'M GONNA HAVE A HARD TIME CONSIDERING THAT GOOD FAITH. CONSIDERATION IF THERE IS NOT THE EFFORT TO BE MADE TO SIT WITH THE DEVELOPER WHO IS YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CHURCH HERE THAT BOUGHT PROPERTY. UM I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THE OTHER COMMENTS I'VE HEARD IS THAT THERE WAS A SECOND MEANS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS THAT THEY ALLOWED TO SLIP AWAY AND THEREFORE THAT'S THEIR FAULT. UM YOU DON'T TIMES HAVE CHANGED WHEN THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY. UM THEIR OF COURSE, THEIR INTENT WAS TO BUILD TO EXPAND THE CHURCH, POTENTIALLY IN THE SCHOOL ON THE PROPERTY.

THEY DID NOT FEEL THAT THEY WOULD NEED THAT SECOND MEANS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS. TIMES CHANGED ECONOMIES CHANGED AND. AND YOU KNOW THE CHURCH. MANY CHURCHES EXPLORED AND ACHIEVED SUCCESS ON ONLINE SERVICES AND EXPANDED THEIR THEIR FOOTPRINT THAT WAY. AND SO NOW THEY'RE IN A SITUATION THAT THEY NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT PROPERTY. SO FOR ME, JUST ON THE FOR THE RECORD, I WON'T BE LOOKING AT THAT AS A PENALTY AGAINST THEM. I IT'S SOMETHING THAT I LOOK AT AS A MARKET CHANGE AND WANT TO ACCOMMODATE THEM AND UNDERSTAND IT. AND THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS CURRENTLY, OF COURSE, IT IS OWNED AG BUT ORIGINALLY WAS PURCHASED FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE CHURCH. IF THE CHURCH WERE TO COME IN HERE TODAY. WELL LET'S SAY THE CHURCH DECIDED THAT THEY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY JUST WEREN'T GOING TO GET ANYTHING THAT YOU KNOW THAT THEY COULDN'T GET AGREEMENT WITH HOMEOWNERS AND COULDN'T GET CONSENSUS ON COUNCIL OR PNC. AND MAYBE THEY END UP SELLING THIS TO ANOTHER CHURCH CHURCH. THIS CHURCH OR ANOTHER CHURCH CAME IN HERE AND SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO EXPAND THE CHURCH. I'M GOING TO GUESS THAT THIS COUNCIL WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THAT, BECAUSE THAT, OF COURSE, WAS THE INTENT AND THE ORIGINAL PLAN, AND IF IT WAS, WHAT WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO BUILD THEIR IN TERMS OF STRUCTURE HEIGHT, SO THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS AG. UM, AND A CHURCH WOULD NOT REQUIRE REZONING SO IF THEY WERE ABLE TO WORK WITHIN THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING REGULATIONS

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, THEY'RE BUILT MAX BUILDING HEIGHT WOULD BE 35. FT WILL BE ABLE TO BUILD THE CHURCH AND ALL ASSOCIATED. UM SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARD OR FEATURES THAT THEY WOULD NEED PARKING LIGHTING. UM, THE BUILDING AND STRUCTURE ITSELF. AND THAT BUILDING COULD BE WITHIN WHAT'S A SETBACK OF THE PROPERTY? PROBABLY I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS 10 FT COULD BUILD WHAT WOULD BE THE EQUIVALENT OF A TWO STORY HOME WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT 35 FT. BEING THE MEDIUM HEIGHT OF A ROOF, YOU KNOW FOR A SECOND FOR TWO STORY HOME, THEY COULD BUILD THAT WITHIN 10 FT OF THE PROPERTY LINE. BY ZONING REQUIREMENTS YET YES, ON THE GROUND LIKELY THEY WOULD NEED THEIR FIRE LANE AROUND IT, UM, RIGHT, DEPENDING ON HOW THEY DESIGNED THE BUILDING. ABSOLUTELY THEORETICALLY, THEY COULD IF THEY COULD DEVELOP IT, OR, YOU KNOW, DESIGN IT IN THAT WAY, YES. I WOULD JUST BE CAREFUL. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OPPOSITION. WHEN I KNOW THEY ORIGINALLY CAME IN WITH THREE OR FOUR STORIES, AND IT WAS CLOSER TO THE DEVELOPMENTS AND THEY CAME BACK. BASED ON ALL THE COMMENTARY AND THE CONVERSATION THEY DID HAVE WITH THE ASSOCIATION AND THEY MOVED IT DOWN TO TWO STORY AND THEY PULLED IT AWAY. UM AND WHEN THE WHEN THE COMPLAINT IS, UM, THAT THEY CAN SEE SOMETHING TO STORY FROM THEIR CURRENT PROPERTY THAT'S AVAILABLE NOW TO THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT SO I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO PUBLICLY IS JUST HOW YOU SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING AT AND THINKING ABOUT AND WHAT ARGUMENTS WILL AND WILL NOT HOLD WATER FOR ME. AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UM ALL THAT SAID COMPLETE EMPATHY ALSO FOR THE HOMEOWNERS AND PROTECTING, YOU KNOW, WITH THE THERE THERE.

ENVIRONMENT COMMUNITY THAT THEY HAVE ESTABLISHED RIGHT NOW. BUT UM, THERE ARE SOME CONDITIONS THAT EXIST TODAY THAT THAT SHOULD BE CONTEMPLATED, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE SITTING AT THE TABLE A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH THE DEVELOPER VERSUS STONEWALLING, POTENTIALLY IF THAT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING AND NOT HAVING ANY DIALOGUE BECAUSE THAT MAY END UP NOT BEING THE RIGHT PLAY. ON THE ROAD IN ONGOING DISCUSSIONS, AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS THIS WEEK, AND I THINK YOU KNOW WE'RE WE NEED TO FIND A HAPPY MEDIUM. I HAVE A LOT OF EMPATHY FOR THE HOMEOWNERS WHO PURCHASED PROPERTY IN AN AREA THAT HAD A MASTER PLAN FOR EITHER SINGLE DEVELOPMENT OR THE EXPANSION OF THIS CHURCH. SO YOU KNOW WE ARE VERY SYMPATHETIC TO THOSE VOICES AS WELL. BUT WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT THE RESIDENTS KEEP AN OPEN MIND AND COME TO THE TABLE AND AT LEAST HAVE A DISCUSSION TO SEE IF WE CAN REACH A HAPPY MIDDLE GROUND AND I DO THINK THAT IS POSSIBLE, SO WE'LL BE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS VERY SOON. I HAVE ONE QUESTION JENNIFER. UNDER THE CURRENT EGGS OWNING I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CHURCH CAN EXPAND OR ANOTHER CHURCH COULD COME IN AND EXPAND, BUT WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IF THEY WANTED TO PUT OFFICES BACK THERE? WOULD THEY NEED A SECOND INGRESS EGRESS AND COULD COULD THEY DO IT UNDER UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING BELIEVE THAT OFFICE OFFICE USES ARE PERMITTED UNDER THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING, THE NEW UDC? I'M NOT AS I DON'T KNOW, QUITE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT A LOT OF THIS STUFF KIND OF CARRIED OVER, SO I BELIEVE OFFICE USES ARE PERMITTED IN THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT OFF OFFICE BUILDINGS ARE NOT SO THEY WOULD LIKELY NEED TO REZONE IF THEY WANTED TO DO AN OFFICE BUILDING OR MIXED COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUILDING. OUR FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE TYPICALLY DOES REQUIRE THAT TWO POINTS OF ACCESS, HOWEVER, WITH THE CHURCH, UM AND THEY'VE GOT TWO POINTS OF ACCESS ALREADY COMING OFF OF VIRGINIA, LIKELY BE ABLE TO EXTEND OFF OF THOSE TO GAIN THOSE TWO POINTS OF ACCESS. SO IT WOULD BE, UH, NOT NECESSARY FOR THEM TO HAVE TO STUB OUT ADDITIONAL POINTS OF ACCESS BEYOND THOSE TWO COMING OFF OF THE CHURCH. SO IF THEY WERE TO LOOK AT SOME KIND OF WHAT I'LL CALL IT, CONDO OFFICE SINGLE STORY OFFICE THAT GOES AROUND THERE. THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A ZONING CHANGE IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. MORE THAN LIKELY THERE WOULD BE THANK YOU DON'T IN PLACE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT SO THIS HAS BEEN REQUESTED. WE TABLED A MOTION TO TABLE IT. SO I MOVED YOUR VOTES. AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THAT'S YOUR OWN PART OF YOUR MOTION, RIGHT? YES. MOTION PASSES ITEM 2 TO 01 TO TWO Z TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “C” - Planned Center District and “CC” - Corridor Commercial Overlay District to “LI” - Light Industrial District and “CC” - Corridor Commercial Overlay District, Located on the Southeast Corner of Bloomdale Road and U.S. Highway 75 (Central Expressway), and Accompanying Ordinance]

CONSIDER AND ACT ON REQUEST TO RESIGN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM PLANT CENTER DISTRICT AND CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL OVERLAY DISTRICT TO LET INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL OVERLAY DISTRICT LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF BLOOMINGDALE ROAD AND U. S HIGHWAY 75. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. AS YOU READ THIS AS A REQUEST TO RESIGN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM A SEAPLANE CENTER TO L I LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT ATTRACT ITSELF IS ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF BLOOMINGDALE ROAD AND US 75. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 4.3 ACRES IN SIZE. UM THE SURROUNDING AREA IS PREDOMINANTLY EITHER ZONED DEVELOPED OR IN DEVELOPMENT FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES. THE

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CONFERENCE OF PLAN FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS DESIGNATING THIS PROPERTY AS EMPLOYMENT MIX , WHICH IS GENERALLY TO ALLOW FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND EMPLOYMENT USES. AS STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST TO THE ALLIES OWNING DISTRICT. WE DO FIND THAT IT IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE DO THINK THAT IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE EITHER UNDERWAY OR EXISTING IN THIS AREA, AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REZONING. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS ALSO CONSIDERED THE ITEM AND THEY HAVE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AS WELL AND A 43 VOTES. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. I'M CURIOUS AS TO IT WAS A 43 VOTE. WHAT? WHAT WERE THE THREE WHO VOTED AGAINST IT. WHAT WAS THEIR CONCERN? SO THE THREE COMMISSION MEMBERS THAT WERE OPPOSED TO THE ACTION WHERE COMMISSION MEMBER MAN'S EYE COMMISSION MEMBER LEBEAU AND I BELIEVE COMMISSION MEMBER WOODRUFF. THEIR CONCERNS WERE THAT BEING A HARD CORNER AT 75 BLOOM, DALE UM, AND THE ALLOWANCE FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES ON THAT SITE. THEIR PREFERENCE WOULD HAVE BEEN TO SEE MORE COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES REMAINED ON THAT SITE. AND THAT'S THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS THE FACT THAT WE WERE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S ONLY SO MANY OF THOSE TYPES OF CORNERS AND I KNOW THAT, UM YOU KNOW WHEN YOU GO DOWN, I MEAN, THERE'S UM, VEHICLE SALES AND YOU KNOW THERE WAS THINGS LIKE THAT AND JUST TO KIND OF PUT ANOTHER LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THING THERE THAT ON THAT CORNER, THAT'S THAT'S MY ISSUE. I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT PICTURE FOR SURE. COMMENT THAT I HAD. THAT WAS CERTAINLY A CONCERN. I HAD AS WELL UNTIL I WENT AND DROVE THE PROPERTY. I WENT OUT THERE AND THERE'S A LOT OF CHALLENGES AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS. OR MAYBE THE AFRICAN WILL BE HERE AND SPEAK TO US, WHICH I THINK UM REALLY SET THIS SET THIS UP TO BE A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT COMMERCIAL PIECE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO ANY OF THAT, OR DO YOU IF YOU EVEN AGREED TO IT LITTLE BIT OF WHAT STAFF LOOKED AT, IN ADDITION TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THEN I KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT WILL DIG INTO SOME INGS AS WELL, UM TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY IS ARE DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY IS A CEMETERY AND THEN ALL OF THE PROPERTY SOUTHEAST OF THIS IS DESIGNATED FOR PUMP STATIONS AND WATER WASTEWATER UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE. EITHER BY THE CITY OF MCKINNEY OR THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT. AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE UH, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES TO THE SOUTH AND THAT EQUIPMENT RENTAL AND FREEDOM MOTOR SPORTS AS WELL . SO THIS REQUEST FOR L I LIGHT INDUSTRIAL OBVIOUSLY WOULD ALLOW FOR ANY LEVEL OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES. HOWEVER WE HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT THE END USER HERE IS A TRAILER SALES. WE DO SEE THAT THAT IS RELATIVELY COMPLIMENTARY TO THE USES THAT WE'RE SEEING SOUTH OF IT. AND OUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION THIS AREA IS ALREADY DEVELOPING FOR THOSE LIGHTER INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES AND THE PROPENSITY FOR HIGHER AND BETTER COMMERCIAL RETAIL OFFICE WILL LIKELY OCCUR ON THE WEST SIDE OF 75. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE AS A STAFF WERE CONSIDERING. WE ALSO NOTED THE TOPOGRAPHY AND SOME OF THE ACCESS ISSUES THERE AT BLOOMINGDALE IN 75. AS WE WERE BAKING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, SO TO SPEAK. THE ELEVATION DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE THAT PAD SITE AND 75 IS DRAMATIC AND I KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL, AND THERE'S NO DIRECT ACCESS OFF 75 TO THE PROPERTY EASEMENT ACCESS , THOUGH FROM THE PROPERTY TO SOUTH WRITE ACCESS. I'LL HAVE TO TAKE YOUR WORD FOR THAT. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ANY OF THE DEDICATED EASEMENTS. THEIR FREEDOM HAS A THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE THIS STUB THAT THEY'D BE ACCESSING IT THROUGH FREEDOM. SPORTS. BASICALLY THERE WOULD BE SO MANY SO MANY CHALLENGES THAT HIS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FREEDOM. HIS FREEDOM ALLOWED TO BE THERE. THROUGH LIGHT INDUSTRIAL OR THROUGH COMMERCIAL DID NOT BELIEVE THAT THEY REQUIRED A ZONING CHANGE. SO THEY I BELIEVE THERE IS OWNING IS THE C PLAN CENTER. AND I GUESS ALL OF THE PROPERTIES THAT FACE 75. OUR COMMERCIAL CORRECT. THEY WOULD THEY HAVE THE COMMERCIAL ZONING CORRECT. RIGHT? FROM THE STAND. WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO APPLICANTS. ECONOMIC COMMENTS AFTER THANK YOU, JENNIFER. THE APPLICANT.

MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND BOB ROTOR 1700 RED BUD SUITE 300 ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. AND EMPRESS, IF I COULD GET THAT MAP, THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. UM I WANT TO TALK

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ABOUT THE PROPERTY WHAT IT IS WHAT IT ISN'T WHAT IT CAN BE AND WHAT IT CAN'T BE. IN MY OPINION.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS ON A MAP OR WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL DRAWING, IT IS ONE CORNER OF A FOUR CORNER INTERSECTION. AND THE NATURAL REACTION WOULD BE WE WANT COMMERCIAL ON THAT INTERSECTION. BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS THE WAY IT OUGHT TO DEVELOP. NOW YOU'VE GOT SOME SIGNIFICANT TOPOGRAPHY ISSUES. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HERE IN JUST A MINUTE. BUT YOU ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER INFLUENCES AT THAT INTERSECTION THAT YOU NEED TO CONSIDER. YOU HAVE A EASILY DEVELOPED CORNER ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF THAT INTERSECTION. YOU HAVE A CORNER ON THE SOUTH WEST SIDE OF THAT INTERSECTION THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL. AND OF COURSE YOU HAVE THE COUNTY COMPLEX THAT BASICALLY WIPED OUT EVERYTHING IN THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT THERE. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANY DEVELOPMENT THERE OTHER THAN WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN. IN ONE WAY IN ONE MANNER OF THINKING THE LESSON THAT I SAW IN PLANO BACK IN THE SEVENTIES EIGHTIES AND NINETIES WAS BE CAREFUL ABOUT PUTTING COMMERCIAL ON EVERY CORNER BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT LEVEL OF COMMERCIAL AT THIS LEVEL OF INTERSECTION. NOW CONTINUING WITH THAT FRAME OF THOUGHT. BLOOMINGDALE TODAY STOPS ABOUT A MILE DOWN THE ROAD. BLOOMINGDALE ON YOUR MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN CROSSES HIGHWAY FIVE AND BENDS DOWN SOMEHOW IN ALL THAT FLOODPLAIN AREA AND CONNECTS TO WILMA'S WILL THAT HAPPEN IN OUR LIFETIMES? I DON'T KNOW, BUT THE WAY ROADS DEVELOP AROUND HERE, I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT. BLOOMINGDALE TO THE WEST HAS A MUCH BETTER CHANCE OF BECOMING WHAT? WE'VE ALWAYS ENVISIONED IT TO BE ON YOUR THIRD AIR PLAN, BUT THIS INTERSECTION IS THAT THE FAR EASTERN EDGE OF THAT TRANSPORTATION NETWORK TODAY UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING THIS TRACK CAN HAVE MOBILE HOME DISPLAY AND MOBILE HOME SALES. HE CAN HAVE AUTOMOBILE TRAILER LIGHT TRUCK RENTAL. HE CAN HAVE ANY NUMBER OF OTHER USES. UNDER THE SEA PLANNED CENTER ZONING THAT'S RIGHT HERE. THIS PROPERTY IS SAT HERE FOR A LONG TIME. 75 WAS DEVELOPED IN THE LATE SIXTIES. THERE'S A REASON WHY THIS TRACT IS NOT DEVELOPED AS A CORNER. AND I THINK THE MAIN REASON IS IT'S GOT SOME SIGNIFICANT TOPOGRAPHICAL CHALLENGES AND OTHER ENCUMBRANCES ON THE TRACK. UM FROM THIS POINT. HERE. SOMEBODY'S HELPING ME OUT THERE. I APPRECIATE IT. TO THE INTERSECTION OF MCLAREN RIGHT DOWN THERE. THERE IS ALMOST A 30 FT. DROP IN ELEVATION. FROM THE BACK OF CURB ALONG HIGHWAY 75, ALSO ON BLOOMINGDALE ROAD, THERE'S A SIX FT 6 TO EIGHT FT.

DROP IN ELEVATION IMMEDIATELY. HENCE THE SLOPE EASEMENTS A TEXT TONES ON THIS PROPERTY. THE ONLY POINTS OF ACCESS ARE THE SHARED DRIVE DOWN THERE ON HIGHWAY 75 WITH FREEDOM, POWER SPORTS DOWN HERE IN THIS PLACE HERE. THERE IS NO ABILITY TO HAVE A CURB CUT ALL THE WAY ALONG 75. NOR IS THERE THE ABILITY TO HAVE A CURB , CUT EVEN A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ALONG BLOOM DALE BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE FROM THE INTERSECTION TO MCCLARY ROAD. SO OTHER THAN THE POINT OF INGRESS AND EGRESS DOWN HERE AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, YOUR ONLY OTHER WAY OF GETTING IN AND OUT OF THIS TRACK HIS VIA MCCLARY ROAD, AND YOU'RE STUCK. YOU'VE GOT TO COME OFF OF THIS INTERSECTION HERE, SO YOUR CARBON CUTS PROBABLY GOING TO BE RIGHT ABOUT THERE AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ENTITLED TO ANOTHER ONE. SO YOU'VE GOT TO CURB CUTS IN A LOCATION THAT DON'T PROVIDE GREAT ACCESS TO THIS PROPERTY.

WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT LINES OF TRAVEL, OKAY? IF YOU'RE ON THIS PROPERTY AND YOU WANT TO GO NORTH. IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. YOU CAN GO BACK DOWN TO THIS SOUTHWEST CORNER. GET ON THE ACCESS ROAD, GO THROUGH THE INTERSECTION AND GO NORTH. IF YOU WANT TO GO SOUTH. AND YOU'RE WILLING TO GO BACK DOWN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER. YOU CAN GO UP TO THE INTERSECTION, MAKE THE TEXAS TURN AND GO SOUTH ON 75. IF YOU WANT TO GO WEST, YOU CAN DO THAT ALL FROM THIS ONE INTERSECTION. BUT THERE WILL NEVER BE IN OUR LIFETIMES. A TRAFFIC SIGNAL RIGHT HERE.

THERE'S NOT ONE AT THIS INTERSECTION HERE. THEY'RE ONLY STOP SIGNS. THERE'S NO MEDIAN BREAK IN HERE ALSO. SO YOU'RE TWO POINTS OF ACCESS ARE PRETTY REMOTE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A

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COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE THAT RELIES UPON FRONTAGE IN THIS AREA. THAT JUST DOESN'T WORK VERY WELL. 30 25 TO 30 FT OF DROP FROM HERE TO HERE. WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE YOU THIS IS NOT A SITE WHERE YOU CAN BALANCE IT LIKE WE'RE USED TO WHERE YOU'VE GOT A HIGH POINT AND A LOW POINT. YOU CAN CUT THE HIGH DOWN AND TAKE THAT DIRT AND FILL UP THE LOW POINT. YOU'RE STARTING 7 TO 8 FT. BELOW THE BACK OF CURB RIGHT HERE. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO FILL THE ENTIRE PROPERTY UP WITH DIRT. AND THERE IS NO BORROW AREA ON THIS SITE BY THAT. I MEAN THERE'S NO PLACE TO GET THE DIRT ON THIS SITE TO BUILD UP A PAD. AND SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAUL THAT DIRT IN FROM OFF SITE, VERY EXPENSIVE PROCESS. AND WHEN YOU DO THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF RETAINING WALL STRUCTURE IN THIS AREA. IT COULD EASILY BE 15 TO 20 FT. TALL SO JUST TO START WITH THE SITE ITSELF HAS SO MANY DEVELOPMENT. PROBLEMS IN SUCH A COSTLY THING TO DO. THAT THE CHANCES OF THIS DEVELOPING FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT I'M PROPOSING, WHICH IS A RETAIL TRAILER CELLS, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE. SEEMS HIGHLY UNLIKELY.

SOME OF YOU ARE IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS. YOU KNOW ABOUT A LOT ABOUT REAL ESTATE. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA STEP OUT ON A PLANK AND SAY THIS CORNER WILL NEVER BE A C STORE GAS STATION.

THIS CORNER WILL NEVER BE AN OFFICE BUILDING BECAUSE OF ALL THE STUFF THAT'S ALREADY DEVELOPED AROUND IT. THIS CORNER WILL NEVER BE A HOTEL. AND THIS CORNER WILL NEVER HAVE A DINE IN RESTAURANT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET TO IT. THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS THE POPULATION PATTERNS NORTH OF THIS JUST DON'T PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT LEVEL OF DENSITY OF POPULATION. THAT DRIVE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE KINDS OF. YOU KNOW, SIGNATURE PLACES THAT YOU WOULD THINK THIS INTERSECTION OUGHT TO HAVE SO WE'RE DOWN. TO LET'S PUT SOMETHING ON THERE. THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE A WHOLE BODY. WHOLE LOT OF CHANGE OF TOPOGRAPHY. THIS TRAILER SALES. IT'S A NATIONAL TRAILER SALES. IT IS A RETAIL SALES ESTABLISHMENT. THERE IS NO MANUFACTURING. THEY USED OUR TRAILERS THAT COULD BE FIFTH WHEELS. THEY COULD BE THE KIND OF FARM TRAILERS THAT MR PHILLIPS PULLS BEHIND HIS TRUCK. THAT COULD BE TRAILERS THAT YOU PUT MOTORCYCLES ON. THESE ARE NOT THE TRACTOR TRAILER TYPE TRADERS. THESE ARE YOUR AVERAGE TRAILERS. OUR LARGEST CUSTOMERS ARE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES THAT HAUL STUFF AROUND. WE SEE THEM EVERY DAY. THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A HUGE, HUGE ENCLOSED AREA BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT MANUFACTURING. THEY BASICALLY NEED A SERVICE AREA. SOME SALES AREAS AND STUFF AND MOST OF THEIR DISPLAY IS GOING TO BE OUTSIDE AND REMEMBER, THESE ARE TRAILERS. THESE ARE LOW THINGS. THERE'S NOT THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO STICK UP. AND BE, YOU KNOW, BE VERY NOTICEABLE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE BALLOONS HUNG ON. ALL OF THEM WERE NOT GOING TO HAVE FLAGS OUT THERE THAT KIND OF STUFF, SO IT'S GOING TO BE A FAIRLY BENIGN NEWS. UM. SO I, UM I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER FAVORABLY. AH REZONING THIS PROPERTY. THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SO THAT WE CAN PUT THIS USE ON THE TRACK. LET ME MISSED A COUPLE OF THINGS. AS YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE LINES ARE PRETTY OR PRETTY DIFFICULT.

RIGHT HERE. HIS 100 FT WIDE EASEMENT THAT BURDENS OF PROPERTY. RIGHT HERE IS A 30 FT WATERLINE EASEMENT THAT BURDENS THE PROPERTY. SO YOU'RE ONLY DEVELOPABLE AREA IS RIGHT IN HERE ANYWAY. AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO FILL ON TOP OF THESE EASEMENTS. FOR THIS EASEMENT. BY VIRTUE OF THE NATURE OF THE EASEMENT. SO BASICALLY, YOU'RE PHIL IS GOING TO BE IN THIS AREA. HUGE RETAINING WALLS, MAJOR PROBLEMS. SO LET ME STOP THERE AGAIN.

REQUEST YOUR FAVORABLE APPROVAL OF THE ZONING AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I SHOULDN'T. MR REMARK, MR MAYOR. I WENT AND DROVE THE PROPERTY THIS WEEKEND TOO, AND I HIGHLY RELUCTANT TO PUT AND I'LL CALL THIS AND SOME RESPECT IN AUTOMOTIVE USE. I KNOW IT DOESN'T HAVE A MOTOR, BUT LIKE AUTOMOBILES THEY PAY THEY DON'T PAY THE CITY SALES TAX ON THESE TRAILERS SIX AND A QUARTER TO THE STATE. AND I'VE BEEN VERY RELUCTANT TO DO ANYTHING IN THE SUN 75, BUT THERE'S THIS IS JUST EVERYTHING YOU SAID AS FAR AS THE ACCESS AS FAR AS THE TOPOGRAPHY ON HERE, AND, UM, THE NATURAL ENTRY PLACES FROM THAT SOUTH END OF THE ACCESS ROAD,

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AND IT'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING FRIENDLY TO THIS BUSINESS. AND WE ALREADY HAVE THESE BUSINESSES THERE ANYWAY. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION, MR ROEDER AND, UM I THINK IT'S JUST GOOD TO USE WE'RE GOING TO GET HERE. THIS IS A SITE THAT. YOU KNOW ME BEING IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS I HAVE SHOWN PERSONALLY. TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT CONVENIENCE STORE GAS STATION BIG COMPANIES. AND. NONE OF THEM HAD AN INTEREST IN IT FOR THE VARIOUS REASONS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED. AND, UH, KUDOS TO THE TO THE SELLER TO FIND A USER THAT WILL TAKE THIS SITE BASED ON THAT. AH SO I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY OTHER. I MEAN THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO GO AHEAD AND ZONE ATLANTA INDUSTRIAL BOBBY, YOU MADE A STATEMENT THAT I WAS NOT AWARE OF HAVE ACTUALLY. COME TO THE PLACE I'M AT BASED ON JUST GOING OUT THERE AND LOOKING AT IT AND REALLY ACKNOWLEDGING THE DISMAL CONDITIONS. WHAT I WASN'T AWARE OF AT THE TIME UNTIL YOU SAID IT, UM YOU'RE SAYING THAT CURRENTLY IT'S WHAT COULD GO THERE RIGHT NOW. YOU COULD HAVE. AUTOMOBILE TRAILER AND LIGHT TRUCK RENTALS. YOU COULD HAVE MOBILE HOME DISPLAY AND MOBILE HOME SALES THERE.

THOSE ARE TWO OF THEM MORE OWNERS ONES, OBVIOUSLY AUTOMOTIVE GARAGE REPAIR AND THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT THOSE FIRST TWO SEEMED TO ME TO BE FAR WORSE THAN WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. SO. FROM FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE EASEMENTS THAT ARE CUTTING OFF THE DEVELOP ABILITY OF THE AFTER THE SITE. YOU KNOW WHAT THE GRADE CHANGES FROM THE BUILDABLE LOCATION. AT THE BACK OF THE SIDE TO THE FRONT OF THE SITE, AS IT IS EXTREME AS THE 25 FT CAN LOOK AT IT. WE HAVE SOME CONTOURS HERE. I'M GOING TO SAY THAT YOU YOU'RE PROBABLY. THE CONTOURS ARE PRETTY, UH, STANDARD GOING DOWN THAT WAY. SO WHILE I THINK THERE'S 26 TO 28 TO 30 FT, FROM HERE TO HERE FROM THIS LOCATION TO HEAR YOU PROBABLY HAVE 15 TO 20 FT. AND WHY? WHY DOESN'T THE TRAILER SALES DEAL WITH THE SAME DRAWBACKS OF THAT YOU KNOW, VISIBILITY ISSUE AND DEVELOPMENT ISSUE THAT A RETAIL LOCATION, MAYOR OR SOME OTHER COMMERCIAL SITE MAKE GREAT. GREAT QUESTION . THESE ARE ALL GREAT QUESTIONS. I HATE THAT RESPONSE. AND SO I TAKE IT ALL BACK. LET ME ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. AH! THIS IS A NATIONAL TRAILER SALES OPERATION . THEY SELL PRIMARILY TO COMMERCIAL USERS THERE. I WOULD CALL HIM A DESTINATION LOCATION YOU WANT TO BUY? YOU WANT TO BUY A WORK TRAILER? YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO THIS PLACE. UM THE REASON WHY THE TOPOGRAPHY DOESN'T BOTHER THEM VERY MUCH IS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO USE ALL OF THE SITE. THEY'RE GOING TO GRADE SOME SOME PADS. AND THEY'LL BE THEY'LL BE GREAT CHANGES BETWEEN THEIR PADS WHERE THEY CAN DISPLAY THEIR TRAILERS, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE AN ACRE OF LEVEL GROUND.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACRES OF LEVEL GROUND AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY THIS WORKS FOR THEM.

IT WAS A DESTINATION. LOCATION WHY WOULD WHY WOULD A COMMERCIAL CORNER LIKE THIS BE A SITE THAT THEY WOULD LOOK FOR. AND NOT ADMIT BLOCK OR YOU KNOW, KIND OF A. AND WHEN, WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A TYPE OF LOCATION, AND I'VE GOT TO ASSUME A COUPLE OF THINGS WHEN I WHEN I REPRESENT CLIENTS, I REALLY DON'T GET INTO THE FINANCES OF ALL THAT. BUT RICK TALKED ABOUT HOW MANY HOW LONG THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN ON THE MARKET. MY GUESS IS THAT THIS HAS TO NUMBER ONE PRICE DRIVEN, BUT NUMBER TWO THIS IS AN EFFORT TO CONSOLIDATE SEVERAL OTHER REGIONAL LOCATIONS INTO THIS ONE LOCATION. AND SO. YOU'RE RIGHT THAT THEY DON'T PAY A SALES TAX ON THE SALE OF A TRAILER, BUT ALL OF THE STUFF THAT GOES ON THE TRAILER IS TAXABLE, SO THEY EXPECT THAT THEY WILL HAVE A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS OF TAXABLE SALES. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT KIND OF STUFF, ALL THE BOLT ONS. PIECES WOULD BE TAXABLE. BUT THIS THIS 75 IS THE SPINE OF WHERE THERE THEIR BUSINESS COMES FROM. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE LIMITATIONS OF THE INGRESS AND EGRESS BUT ULTIMATELY YOU HAVE ACCESS POINTS FOR ALWAYS OF TRAVEL HERE . YOU'RE NOT MISSING A ROAD THAT'S COMING IN. THAT DOESN'T WON'T BE ABLE TO GET TO A PEOPLE COMING. WEST TO EAST WILL SEE IT AND PULL IN PEOPLE COMING NORTH. WILL BE ABLE TO PULL IN. AND

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PEOPLE COMING. EAST TO WEST WOULD BE ABLE TO PULL INTO THIS SITE. SO EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE ACCESS. IT HAS VISIBILITY. EVEN THOUGH IT IS DECLINING, WHICH WE HAVE. COMMERCIAL SITES IN MCKINNEY THAT HAVE A DECLINING. UH, YOU KNOW, FRONTAGE. UM AND THERE'S WAYS TO ACCOMMODATE AND I GUESS I'VE STRUGGLED WITH THE IDEA OF THAT. THE SITE HASN'T DEVELOPED BECAUSE OF THOSE LIMITATIONS AND NOT BECAUSE BLOOM DALE IS NOT WHAT IT ULTIMATELY WILL BE. AND WHEN I SEE FUTURE WHAT I EXPECT TO BE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. GOING NORTH ALONG THE 75 ACCESS ROAD TO BLOOM, DALE NORTHEAST AND SOUTHWEST CORNERS OF BALLOON DALE AND 75. LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. STICKS OUT TO ME. I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM MCCLARY, OR FROM RED BUD, THAT IT MAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSE. IT'S EASY ON EASY OFF FOR THEM, AND IT FITS WITH ALL OF THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T FIT. WITH THE REST OF THAT CORRIDOR TO ME , AND IT DOESN'T FIT WITH WHAT? I EXPECT THAT COURT ORDER LOOK LIKE ONCE WE FINALLY OPENED BLOOMINGDALE UP TO THE WEST AND YES, ULTIMATELY TO THE EAST AND SOUTH. AND SO I GUESS I STRUGGLE WITH THAT BEING THE REASON LIKE THAT THOSE LIMITATIONS ARE THE REASONS WHY IT HASN'T DEVELOPED AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC COUNTS OR BECAUSE OF UM YOU KNOW OTHER. CONDITIONS IN THIS AREA, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A WHOLE LOT OF RESIDENTIAL IN THE NEXT YOU KNOW? HALF A MILE UP THE ROAD THAT'S GOING TO THIS IS GOING TO DRAW OFF OF, BUT THERE WILL BE RESIDENTIAL IN THAT AREA, AND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT COME AND WE'LL DRIVE THIS ROADWAY IN AND OUT OF MCKINNEY, AND IT HAS A ENORMOUS DRAW IN OUR COURTHOUSE AND COUNTY FACILITIES AND SO I YEAH, I STRUGGLE WITH. BUT THIS IS ULTIMATELY WHERE WE GIVE IT UP AND SAY WE'RE OK WITH NOW ALLIED INDUSTRIAL USE ON THE CORNER OF 75 AN EXIT WHERE WE HAVEN'T BEEN OKAY WITH THAT AT ANY OTHER INTERSECTION ALONG 75 . IF THIS WERE A FLAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A GOOD POINT ACCESS NOTWITHSTANDING. WE'VE GOT ELDORADO THAT IS ONE OF THE WORST INTERSECTIONS. FOR VISIBILITY IN THE WORLD AND IT SOMEHOW I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT COST OF PUTTING SOMETHING THERE. THE I GUESS. I ULTIMATELY EXPECT THAT ONCE THE TRAFFIC COUNTS WARRANT. UM YOU KNOW, HIGHER INTENSITY USE THAT THAT DEVELOPMENT COSTS WOULD BE EASED BY THE HIGHER INTENSITY USE RATHER THAN LOWERING THE USE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT POTENTIALLY OFFICIALLY YOU SEE, I LOOK AT A DIFFERENT I LOOK AT IT THAT UM, I LIKE IN THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY TO THE ONE ON VIRGINIA THAT HAD THE 30 FT ELEVATION CHANGE. WHY WAS THE ONLY PIECE ON VIRGINIA NOT DEVELOPED FOR ALL THESE YEARS? UM YOU KNOW, AS A BUILDER DEVELOPER. I MEAN, THE LAST THING I'M GONNA DO IS GO INTO A PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH 100 FT. EASEMENT ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND 30 40 ZEMAN THE EAST SIDE AND HAVE TO BUILD UP 20 FT OF RETAINING WALL 20 FT OF PHIL AND THEN FIGURE OUT HOW AM I GOING TO GET IN INTO THAT? I CAN'T GET A CURB CUT ALONG 75. SO I STILL GOT TO COMMEND DOWN THROUGH THE POWER SPORTS. ENTRANCE AND SOMEHOW I GOT TO TRAVERSE UP A 15 PLUS FOOT 20 FT. INCLINED WHERE RETAINING WALL IS WHERE YOU'VE CREATED A PAD SITE. AND SO MY GUESS IS THAT I AGREE WITH YOU TO THE POINT THAT IF THIS WE DON'T DO THIS, IT WILL ULTIMATELY DEVELOP, BUT IT WON'T BE, UH, COMMERCIAL SITE THAT HAS TO DO ALL THAT IT WILL BE A WILL BE A TRAILER RENTAL. IT'LL BE A U HAUL RENTAL. IT'LL BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT WORKS ON THE SITE THAT'S AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW. AND TO ME WOULD WOULD IT WOULD NOT BE. I DON'T KNOW THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE A WORSE SITE. BUT I'M SAYING THAT RIGHT HERE WITHOUT REALLY ENOUGH TIME TO CONTEMPLATE THAT, UM IT CERTAINLY WOULDN'T BE A WOULDN'T BE A BETTER USE. I SHOULD SAY THAT SIDE WOULDN'T BE A BETTER USE MAY VERY WELL BE A WORSE USE, BUT I'M GUESSING THAT IF THAT IF IT DOES GET DEVELOPED. IT WILL BE WITH WHAT'S AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S GONNA BE A USE LIKE THAT. I WOULD. I WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT ARGUMENT IF THE OTHER TWO CORNERS HAD DEVELOPED , BUT THEY'RE ALSO NOT DEVELOPED AND THERE THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME LIMITATIONS. AND SO FOR ME , IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S MORE OF A FACTOR OF THIS INTERSECTION ISN'T HERE YET BECAUSE OF THE DELAYS IN THE ROAD. AND ULTIMATELY, IT CAN BE A MOBILE HOME. SALES, BUT WE DON'T ALLOW MOBILE HOMES, SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WOULD COME SELLING MCKINNEY AND IT CAN BE, YOU

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KNOW, A RENTAL. PLACE, BUT YOU KNOW? I GUESS IT HADN'T DONE THAT EITHER. AND SO I DON'T SEE THAT. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE ACCOMMODATION WE SHOULD ULTIMATELY MAKE. OR ELSE IT WILL BECOME SOMETHING WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE. BUT THE MARKET HAS SAID IT'S NOT GOING TO BECOME THAT EITHER, AND TO ME THAT THAT ARGUES THE LIMITATIONS OF THE INTERSECTION NOT OF THE SITE. SE LIMITATIONS OF THE SITE. I'M NOT DISMISSING HIM. I JUST LIKE I GUESS I WOULD LIKE FOR THOSE TO BE ISOLATED BEFORE I HAVE TO COMPROMISE ON USE. AND WHEN I HAVEN'T WHEN WE HAVEN'T COMPROMISED ON USE ALONG THE 75 FRONTED 20 HAVE A COMPROMISED ON USED ON ANY UM 75 INTERSECTION.

I WOULD LIKE TO WAIT TO COMPROMISE ON USE UNTIL I CAN ISOLATE. THAT IS THE REASON AND I GUESS IF THIS WAS OWNED OFFICE. UM THAT I WOULD BE MAKING THAT I WOULD I WOULD SIDE WITH YOU. UM, BUT RIGHT NOW, WHAT'S AVAILABLE SOMETHING UH, TO ME. THAT IS NOT A BETTER USE THAN WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD COULD ACHIEVE NOW. THAT'S ME. I I'VE GOT TO AGREE WITH JUSTIN, THOUGH I THINK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT WOULD BE WISE OF US TO WAIT FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT ON THE OTHER CORNERS BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION TO HAVE A LESS THAN DESIRABLE PRODUCT ON THIS LOT. WHO KNOWS? I'M NOT A FAN. AUTOMOTIVE SALES.

ADDING TO 75. WE HAVE ENOUGH WE'VE HAD MORE THAN ENOUGH. WE HAD A WE HAD ONE WE JUST HAD APPROVED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. THAT PERSON WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AFTER SOME COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL AND HAS NOW AN ENCLOSED CAR DEALERSHIP RIGHT TO MAKE IT MORE FAVORABLE AND APPEARANCE ON 75. I DON'T WANT TO ADD YET ANOTHER AUTOMOTIVE SALES TYPES OF BUSINESS ON A HARD CORNER LIKE THIS, SO I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS. PRODUCTS GOING HERE.

RATHER WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT BRINGS. JUST TO BE CLEAR. THIS IS NOT AN AUTOMOTIVE SALES, BUT IT'S A LESS THAN DESIRABLE PRODUCT. IT'S STILL A SALES PRODUCT. THAT IS IT, BUT IS IT TO YOU? IS IT LESS THAN TRAILER RENTAL? I FEEL LIKE IF IT WERE GOING TO BE TRADED RENTAL, WE WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT BY NOW. I'D RATHER WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THAT WILL DICTATE THE MARKET FOR US. I DON'T I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD COMPROMISE AND PUT SOMETHING HERE THAT WE NONE OF US REALLY DESIRE. MY WHOLE THING IS, YOU KNOW, I KEEP PEOPLE KEEP TELLING MCKINNEY 75 HAS NO CURBSIDE APPEAL. AND THE RIGHT.

I MEAN, WE GOT YOU KNOW IF YOU DRIVE DOWN I MEAN, IT'S NOT PRETTY. IT'S NOT ANYTHING. IT'S JUST STUFF AND I KEEP GOING BACK TO UM 1 21. AND THERE'S A ON PRIME REAL ESTATE FRONTAGE ROAD OF 1 21. WE GOT A DOG PARK. WE GOT SOME. WE GOT A DOG KENNEL. SOMEBODY SOLD THE CITY COUNCIL IN A DOG KENNEL. ON ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD OF 1 21, AND I'M JUST LIKE WHO DID THAT? WHO WAS WHO HAD THEY SELL PLANT BETTER THAN YOU KNOW, BUT AND SO I AM NEVER ABOUT. OH, THIS IS NOTHING IS DEVELOPED HERE YET, UM, YOU KNOW, SO I FIND MYSELF COMPLETELY AGREEING WITH JUSTIN.

WHICH IS KIND OF ALWAYS STRANGE , A LITTLE BIT, BUT I DO I, UM YEAH. SO MAKE NO MISTAKE. MY ARGUMENT. ISN'T THAT NOTHING ELSE WILL DEVELOP HERE. THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING. I THINK THAT I AGREE WITH STAFF THAT THE USES ARE COMPATIBLE. IT'S WHAT IS CURRENTLY THERE. YOU'VE GOT A CEMETERY TO ONE SIDE STATIONS TO THE OTHER. ALL THE TOPOGRAPHY ISSUES AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE.

WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT DOWNGRADING THE ZONING FROM FROM OFFICE TO THIS. WE'RE SAYING THAT UH, WHAT'S ALLOWED RIGHT NOW? TRUCK SALES, TRUCK RENTALS, TRAILER RENTALS. ALL OF THOSE USES INDUSTRIAL. THAT'S ALL AVAILABLE RIGHT THIS SECOND. AND SO TO ME . WE'RE NOT DOWNGRADING ANYTHING BECAUSE WE DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO DEVELOP. WE'RE SAYING HERE'S A USE THAT IS COMPARABLE , IF NOT SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN THOSE USES THAT THAT'S IT. FOR ME. IT'S NOT ABOUT THAT I WILL PUT MONEY ON WITH ANYBODY THAT THIS WILL NEVER DEVELOP AS A OFFICE SITE THAT IT WON'T HAPPEN. UM BUT BUT IT WILL IT DEVELOP. WILL WILL IT BE, UM AT SOME POINT WILL IT BE A U HAUL TRUCK RENTAL? ABSOLUTELY. IT'LL BE THAT IT'LL BE. IT'LL BE ONE OF THE USES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO IT RIGHT NOW. AND I GUESS MR ROGERS, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE COMMENTS ABOUT MCKINNEY 75.

DOESN'T LOOK VERY GOOD, BUT YOU'RE AT THE VERY NORTH END OF MCKINNEY 75. THERE'S NOT A WHOLE

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LOT OF MCKINNEY 75 LEFT UP HERE , AND WE'RE HOPING TO MAKE SURE THAT CORRIDOR STAYS IN BETTER THAN THE OTHER A NEW WAVE AT THE AT THE END AFTER YOU HAVE AS I RECALL, THE CITY HAS A VEHICLE MAINTENANCE. DEPARTMENT RIGHT THERE ON 75. YEAH. THAT'S BECAUSE IT WAS AG. DEALERSHIP AND I THINK THE BUILDING LOOKS FINE. BUT I GUESS MY POINT IS THE USE. REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE BUILDING LOOKS LIKE THE USES IS AS ONEROUS AS THE USE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO PUT UP HERE. OKAY THAT'S HEAVY INDUSTRIAL HEAVY EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED THE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. I DON'T EVEN KNOW BUT I LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS TO ASK JENNIFER A QUESTION. I DIDN'T WANT TO. INTERRUPT THE PROCESS HERE AND SO BUT SORRY, CHARLIE, GO AHEAD. I GUESS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT USES. WHAT ARE THE OTHER USES OFFICE CAN BE PUT ON THIS TODAY, RIGHT? IT CAN BE ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL ZONE. C PLAN CENTER. THERE'S SO YOU'VE GOT YOUR WHOLE PANOPLY OF COMMERCIAL USES. JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT THAT IT'S IT IS ZONED FOR OFFICE OR RETAIL USES TODAY, NOT JUST MANUFACTURING. IT'S NOT CENTRAL MANUFACTURING MANUFACTURED HOMES AND YEAH, THAT'S TRUE. SO ABSOLUTELY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. I MEAN, SORRY, C TWO OUTCOME. I'M SORRY, BUT BUT AGAIN. OFFICE CAN BE. BUT THE MORE THE MORE UM FORESEEABLE USES WOULD BE TRAILER SALES THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY DON'T REALLY THEY DON'T REQUIRE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SITE WILL COST YOU A MILLION DOLLARS. I MEAN, LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY FROM MY ANALYSIS. WHATEVER YOU GET ON THIS SIDE JUST BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE, AND WHAT I THINK ARE ACCESS ISSUES. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A FIRST CLASS ANYTHING. YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET A QUICK TRIP. YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET A HOTEL. YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET A STRIP CENTER THERE. YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET ANY OF THAT STUFF THERE. JUST BECAUSE YEAH, AT AN INTERSECTION. BUT IT'S GOT SO MUCH HAIR ON IT, BUT IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO DEVELOP THAT WAY. CHARLIE. YOU HAD COMMENTS. I THINK WE'RE ALL OVERLOOKING THE FACT THAT THAT IS CATTY CORNER TO THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE, WHICH IS THE REASON WE'RE THE COUNTY SEAT OF MCKINNEY. AND SOMETIMES THAT IS THE ONLY INTERSECTION PEOPLE FROM THROUGHOUT THIS STATE AND FROM OTHER STATES. IT'S THE ONLY INTERSECTION THEY TAKE IN MCKINNEY CERTAINLY DON'T WANT THEM THINKING THAT CATTY CORNER FROM A PLACE OF HONOR, DIGNITY AND RESPECT IS TRAILERS. SALES. AND THE OTHER CORNER BECAUSE YOU PUT IN BOB'S DINER FOR JURORS ONLY YOU'RE GONNA MAKE A KILLING. THAT'S WHAT THE PANTRY SURVIVED ON FOREVER.

EVERY BAILIFF IN THE COURTHOUSE, SAID GOLD PANTRY. EVERY BAILIFFS IN THAT COURTHOUSE GONNA SAY YOU PASSED IT ON YOUR WAY IN. AND THAT SITE WILL DEVELOP AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE A MOMENT. THAT THE DIFFICULTY IN DEVELOPING A PIECE OF PROPERTY SHOULD EVEN WAY IN OUR DECISIONS AS TO HOW YOU ZONE THE PIECE OF PROPERTY. IT WAS DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP WHEN WHOEVER OWNS IT BOUGHT IT. AND HE KNEW THAT WHEN HE BOUGHT IT, AND EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY DOES NOT HAVE TO DEVELOP RIGHT NOW.

AND I AGREE WITH JUSTIN THAT WHEN BLOOMINGDALE OPENS UP, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES AND YOUR OWNER OF LAND WOULD BE VERY WISE TO CONSIDER PUTTING BOB'S DINER IN. THEY'RE GONNA MAKE A HELL OF A LOT MORE THAN TRAILER SALES. COOK, CHARLIE. REPEAT THIS HORSE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE MOTION THAT WE DECLINED THIS ITEM. AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. CAST YOUR VOTES. SO WE'RE VOTING? YES TO DECLINE IT. YES TO DECLINE. AT THIS POINT, IT'S A FOREGONE CONCLUSION. UM. EMPRESS I WOULD YOU CHANGE MY VOTE, THOUGH MAN WAS NO. TWO. WE REDO IT. LET'S REDO IT. UM NO. YES. YES. YES. NO. YES. NO. SAME RESULT JUST

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MORE ACCURATE REFLECTION. ALRIGHT ITEM 221074 CONSIDERING ACTING A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING

[Consider/Discuss/Act on a Resolution Authorizing the City Manager to Execute a Guaranteed Maximum Price (GMP) Amendment to the Contract with Crossland Construction Company, Inc. (Crossland) for Construction Services Related to the Design and Construction of the McKinney National Airport Airfield Maintenance and Storage Building - TKI-SRE (AI4315)]

THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT WITH CROSSLINK CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FOR CONSTRUCTION SERVICES RELATED TO THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, THE MCKINNEY NATIONAL AIRPORT, AIRFIELD, MAINTENANCE AND STORAGE BUILDING. CLEAR THE THERE WERE I GOT IT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. PATRICIA JACKSON, YOUR FACILITIES CONSTRUCTION MANAGER. I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF KING CARLY AND MCKINNEY NATIONAL AIRPORT THIS EVENING TO ASK FOR YOUR FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION OF A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE AMENDMENT FOR CROSSING CONSTRUCTION FOR AN AIRFIELD MAINTENANCE AND STORAGE FACILITY. WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS LOVINGLY REFERRED TO IN FAA TERMINOLOGY IS A SNOW REMOVAL EQUIPMENT FACILITY. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND S SORRY FOR T K. I WE ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE OUR PROJECT MANAGER FROM GARVER, WHO IS ACTUALLY IN LEADERSHIP. MCKINNEY THIS YEAR. SARAH ANDREWS IS HERE TONIGHT WITH US JUST OBSERVING.

BUT IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'D BE BOTH HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. ANY QUESTIONS FOR TRISH, I HAVE A QUESTION THAT JUST HAS ALWAYS BUGGED ME. A I REPRESENTING MCKINNEY. MCKINNEY WOULD BE M. C K BECAUSE THERE IS NO OTHER. UM IT SHOULD BE. THERE'S NO OTHER AIR AIRFIELD WITHIN C K. SO WHY CAN'T CAN? IS IT POSSIBLE TO CHANGE IT? DON'T KNOW. WE'D HAVE TO ASK CAN THERAPY YOU HAVE ANY INPUT ON THAT? YEAH IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO CHANGE IT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE AWESOME TO CHANGE IT. WE SHOULD. WE SHOULD TAKE THAT UP WITH WITH MR CARLY. BUT ANYWAY, SO THAT'S T K I NOBODY'S GOING TO GET THAT FROM MCKINNEY, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM ANYTHING, BUT THAT'S ALWAYS BOTHERED ME. SO I'M JUST SAYING MENTION THAT THANK YOU. TOGETHER QUESTIONS FOR TRISH. AND ERROR GRAMMATICAL ERROR THAT NEEDS TO BE I'LL FIX THAT. IT'S ALREADY BEEN FIXED, BUT I WAS TOO LATE TO CHANGE IT OUT IN THE PACKET. SORRY ABOUT THAT. WE SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT THAT BEFOREHAND. MY APOLOGIES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION THAT. MAKE A MOTION THAT WERE APPROVED THE ITEMS SUBJECT TO THAT GRAMMATICAL CHANGE, SECOND PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.

IMPASSES CITIZEN COMMENTS, NOT ON THE AGENDA. I DON'T AS ANYONE SIGNED UP, NO. COUNCILOR MANAGER

[COUNCIL AND MANAGER COMMENTS]

COMMENTS JUSTIN STARTED URINE UH, JUST ONE I GUESS. TWO QUICK ONES. UM RICK AND PATRICK AND I GOT TO PARTICIPATE, AND I GUESS ALL DID AS WELL GOT TO PARTICIPATE WITH COFFEE WITH THE COURTS, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A GOOD EVENT AND NEEDED ENJOYED VISITING WITH HIM. JUST JUST BUILDING A RELATIONSHIP THERE, SO THANKS. I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO THEM FOR PUTTING THAT ON.

AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY AH, THANK YOU TO THE CHAMBER FOR PUTTING ON THE STATE OF THE CITY THAT IT AN EXCELLENT JOB AS WELL AS MR MAYOR. YOU AND PAUL DID A WONDERFUL JOB REPRESENTATIVES.

THIS IS MY COMMENTS. SATURDAY WAS A BIG DAY WE HAD THE GRAND OPENING OF FIRE STATION 11 THAT REALLY STRUCK ME. THAT'S IN OUR KIND OF OUR URBAN DENSE AREA, AND, UM, NEIGHBORS ARE PRETTY CLOSE, AND THEY LIVE CLOSE TO THERE, AND SO MANY PEOPLE CAME OUT WITH THEIR KIDS AND THE KIDS GOT TO CLIMB ALL OVER THE FIRE EQUIPMENT AND SEE IT AND THEY JUST HAD A BLAST. IT WAS SO MUCH FUN. THAT STATION IS VERY UNIQUE WITH A SAUNA IN THERE, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ABOUT HOW THE SUITS GET THE CONTAMINATED OUTSIDE. BUT HOW DO YOU DECONTAMINATE THE SKIN AND THE FIREFIGHTERS NEED A SAUNA? I THOUGHT THAT WAS INGENIOUS. IT'S GREAT PLACE. ANYONE WHO WANTS TO GO CHECK IT OUT. WE THEN MOVED JUST A LITTLE BIT TO THE WEST AND WE WERE AT THE VETERANS MEMORIAL, AND THERE WAS A CELEBRATION FOR VETERANS DAY THERE AND BIG FLYOVER FROM THE T SIX IS FROM AIR COUNTRY AIRPORT. AND LATER ON THAT NIGHT, WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GO TO THE M E F BANQUET. APPARENTLY THEY ONLY DO IT ONCE EVERY 10 YEARS. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. BUT THE LAST TIME I WAS THERE WAS 10 YEARS AGO, AND IT WAS AN ABSOLUTELY FIRST CLASS EVENT, AND IT'S SO GREAT TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE IN MCKINNEY, THE DNA OF MCKINNEY, SUPPORTING THE EDUCATION OF THESE KIDS, JUST WONDERFUL. THANK YOU, MR BEAR. MCKINNEY LINES ADVANCED TO THE SECOND ROUND OF THE PLAYOFFS. SO BE IT. DALLAS JESUIT HIGH SCHOOL FRIDAY , SEVEN O'CLOCK MCKINNEY NORTH PLAYED A VERY, VERY GOOD TEAM FROM PORT ARTHUR AND EXITED THE PLAYOFFS AFTER THAT, BUT THEY

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HAD A GREAT SEASON UNDER A BRAND NEW HEAD COACH AND ALL THE YOUNG MAN AS WELL AS THE COACHING STAFF SHOULD BE COMMENDED ON EXCELLENT SEASON. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THE MCKINNEY NORTH BULLDOGS ON MAKING IT TO THE PLAYOFFS. HEAD COACHES FIRST YEAR AH, I HOPE TO SEE YOU GUYS OUT AND JESUIT. DOWN IN DALLAS FRIDAY NIGHT. SEVEN O'CLOCK BY THE WAY, THEY LOST, THEY BEAT CARPAL AND THEY WERE SERIOUS UNDERDOGS GOING INTO THE GAME. CARPAL WAS NINE AND TWO ONLY ENDED SEASON WITH THE 21 BEING TO MCKINNEY. SO THEY CAME IN NINE. AND HE PULLED THE UPSET ON THEM. SO THE TEAM THEY'RE PLAYING THIS WEEKEND AGAIN. NINE AND TWO. GOOD LUCK TO THE MCKINNEY LINES. THANK YOU. IF YOU CAN'T TELL CHARLIE WAS AN ATHLETE IN HIGH SCHOOL AND OBVIOUSLY STILL A FANATIC. I WAS NOT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN TELL HIM NOT ATHLETICALLY INCLINED, BUT I WAS IN THE BAND, AND ON THAT NOTE, I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THEM AND KENNY BOYD HIGH SCHOOL BAND ON THEIR ROAD TO STATE. THAT IS A BIG DEAL. IT WAS THEIR FIRST TIME THEY DID AN AWESOME JOB, GREAT PROGRAM, SO I JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE THOSE FOLKS. ALSO WANTED TO SAY CONGRATS TO THE LOVE LIFE FOUNDATION. THEY HAD A FANTASTIC PARTY A COUPLE OF WEEKENDS AGO CELEBRATING 30 YEARS, AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH GEORGE AND MALEY AND THE LOVE LIFE FOUNDATION HAS SUPPORTED SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND ORGANIZATIONS, YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THEY'VE DONE AN AMAZING JOB GIVING OUT FROM THEIR HEARTS FOR SO MANY YEARS NOW, 30 YEARS, SO IT WAS REALLY HONORED TO COME AND CELEBRATE WITH YOU ALL. IT WAS A FUN EVENT. WE HAD A GREAT TIME. UM AND JUST WANTED TO ECHO OF FANTASTIC JOB BY THE MCKINNEY EDUCATION FOUNDATION. IT WAS JUST A MARVELOUS TIME HEARING. LAURA AND BARBARA BUSH SPEAK WAS AWESOME. SO THEY WERE. THEY WERE AMAZING. JUST AMAZING. SO HAD A GREAT TIME LOVE ALL THAT'S GOING ON IN MCKINNEY RIGHT NOW. SO IF YOU DRIVE DOWN ON THE SQUARE OF MCKINNEY, UM, I WAS DRIVING THERE TODAY AND THEY HAD THE ROAD BLOCKED OFF. AND AS I LOOKED DOWN, THE CHRISTMAS TREE IS GOING UP. SO I THINK THE HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS THAT DICKENS CHRISTMAS STARTS. IS IT FRIDAY 25TH OKAY. FRIDAY, THE 25TH. AND IT'S A GREAT EVENT. UM COME GET YOUR PICTURE TAKEN BY THE BIG GIANT CHRISTMAS TREE AND COME EXPLORE THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED DOWNTOWN AND CHRISTMAS, UM, FOR THE NEXT FIVE WEEKS OR SO OR SIX WEEKS OR WHATEVER IT IS, BUT, UH , MCKINNEY DOWNTOWN IS A GREAT PLACE TO SHOP AND EAT AND JUST ENJOY THE CHRISTMAS SPIRIT WITH ALL THE LIGHTS. SO THAT'S ALL I GOT. MAYOR. YES, MR MAYOR COUNCIL. JUST AN UPDATE. THIS IS THE LAST MEETING BEFORE THANKSGIVING. SO HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO EVERYBODY, OF COURSE, AND AS MAYOR PRO TEM ROGERS POINTED OUT THE SPECIFICS TO HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS AND KENNY CHRISTMAS DOWNTOWN STARTING FRIDAY, LASTING THROUGH THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND. THINGS KICK OFF WITH THE TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY IS MR ROGERS POINTED OUT FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 25TH 6 15. PM FAMILY ACTIVITIES. FOOD ENTERTAINMENT ALL WEEKEND LONG. WE HOPE YOU CAN COME BEGIN THE HOLIDAY SEASON WITH US DOWNTOWN , AND MORE INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND IN MCKINNEY CHRISTMAS DOT COM AGAIN. MCKINNEY CHRISTMAS .COM. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT YEAH. M E F WAS A GREAT EVENT. UM OF COURSE I WANT TO ALSO MENTIONED THE LOVE LIFE 30TH ANNIVERSARY BECAUSE MAINLY PUT SO MUCH EFFORT INTO THAT AND AJ AND SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE THAT WORK SO HARD TO DO THAT EVENT. I THINK IT WAS NEARLY 700 PEOPLE THERE. I AGREE. LAURA AND BARBARA BUSH, UM, REALLY ENJOYED THEIR CONVERSATION. KIND OF COFFEE TALK. IT WAS UM, THEY WERE JUST VERY REAL PEOPLE. UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD A THE FIREFIGHTER FITNESS CHALLENGE. THERE WAS A YOUNGER I CANNOT REMEMBER HER NAME, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. BUT SHE WAS INTERVIEWED BY THE NEWS. THE THINGS THAT THEY DID WITH £50 WAS EMMA HARRIS. EVERYTHING FROM CLIMBING 100 FT LADDER TO STRAPPING ON £50 AND DOING ALL KINDS OF PHYSICAL FITNESS FEATS . IT WAS IT WAS VERY, VERY COOL. AND THEN OUR CITY HOSTED THE RESUSCITATION ACADEMY TWO DAYS GOING ON TODAY AND TOMORROW IS THERE TODAY. WE HAD FIREFIGHTERS RMS FROM OVER 30 CITIES ARE COMING TO MCKINNEY RIGHT NOW. I THINK AT THIS VERY MOMENT THEY ARE DRINKING ONE OF THEIR TWO DRINKS AT LOCAL YOKEL FOR RECEPTION AND HAPPY HOUR.

HOPEFULLY THEY WILL. I KNOW THEY LEARNED A LOT TODAY AND HOW GREAT IT JUST STRUCK ME THAT THAT ALL OF THEM THAT WERE THERE. THERE THERE VOLUNTARILY. THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO GO THERE FOR THEIR DEPARTMENTS OR FOR TRAINING. THERE THERE VOLUNTARILY. AND IT STRUCK ME HOW UH, ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE WELL OVER 100 WERE THERE. BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE

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DESIRE TO IMPROVE THEIR CRAFT ON HELPING SOMEBODY ELSE. IT'S SOMETHING THEY'RE LEARNING THAT THEY WILL HAVE NO BENEFIT TO THEMSELVES. PERSONALLY THEY CAN'T RESUSCITATE THEMSELVES SO THAT THEY'RE TOO TO HONE THEIR SKILLS. PURELY FOR THE BENEFIT OF SOMEBODY ELSE THAT THEY MOST PROBABLY DON'T KNOW. AND I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS AND I, AS I SAID TO THEM THIS MORNING, I THOUGHT THAT WAS JUST SO ADMIRABLE AND AGAIN. THIS WAS ON THEIR THAT WAS THEIR DECISION TO BE THERE TRAVELING FROM WHERE THEY WERE TRAVELING. AND I APPLAUD THEM FOR DOING THAT, AND I APPLAUD OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND DANNY KISSNER CHIEF KISSNER FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND HOSTING IT AND YES, THIS WILL BE HOPEFULLY AN ONGOING ANNUAL THING. SO WITH THAT MOTION TO ADJOURN SO ALL IN FAVOR, RIGHT?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

Nov 15, 2022 City Council Regular Meeting on 2022-11-15 6:00 PM

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