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[CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:05]

GOOD EVENING. TODAY IS TUESDAY, JANUARY 17TH YEAR 2023 AS HARD AS THAT IS TO BELIEVE IT IS 601 IN THE EVENING. WE'RE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 2 22 NORTH TENNESSEE STREET IN THE VERY GREAT CITY OF MCKINNEY, WHERE WE BEGIN TONIGHT WITH AN INDICATION AND THEN A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. THE INVOCATION WOULD BE GIVEN BY DR BILL RESIDENT OF NORTHWEST CHRISTIAN CHURCH. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE A BOY SCOUT TROOP 123 REPRESENTING FOR TO GET THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, SO WE ALL STAND WITH ME. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS. LET US PRAY. FATHER WE COME TO UNITE THANKING YOU FOR WHO YOU ARE. WE THANK YOU FOR THE CREATION YOU MADE WE THANK YOU, FATHER FOR CREATING US. WE ASK YOU LORD TO BLESS US AS WE TRY TO DO WHAT THE APOSTLE PAUL SAID. THAT WE SHOULD RISE UP AND PRAY FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS. WE THANK YOU FOR THESE WHO ARE LEADERS. ELECTED TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF MCKINNEY. WE THANK YOU, FATHER FOR THEIR DESIRE. FOR THEIR TALENTS. WE ASKED LORD THAT YOU EMPOWER THEM WITH YOUR WISDOM TO MAKE DECISIONS BEST AND RIGHT FOR A TOWN. TONIGHT WE GIVE YOU PRAISE WE THANK YOU FOR JESUS.

WE PRAY IN CHRIST'S NAME. AMEN. AMEN. MY GUYS. COME ON UP. IF YOU WOULD ALL RIGHT, THAT'S FINE. ONCE YOU START, WE WILL FOLLOW YOU. PLEASE JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

PLEASURE LEGION. A LOT OF STATES IN AMERICA. STANDS. INVISIBLE. JUST AS FAR SKIES. FIRST ORDER

[Proclamation for “Health for Humanity” Yogathon]

OF BUSINESS IS ITEM 2 TO 1 TO 10 PROCLAMATION FOR HEALTH FOR HUMANITY YOGA THON. YOGURT SONGS. RIGHT AFTER THE RALLY. MY OWN. DO YOU HAVE ANYONE HERE LIKE TO COME UP? YEAH I THINK KEN CARLY LOOKS LIKE A YOGA. YOGI. WE GO. CITY MCKINNEY PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS YOGA IS AN ANCIENT HINDU PRACTICE DEVELOPED THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO IN THE INDIAN SUBCONTINENT FOR MAINTAINING SPIRITUAL, MENTAL AND PHYSICAL WELL BEING. WHEREAS SYRIA MASCARA. SORRY MISHKA, SINCE THAT'S WHAT I SAID. THAT'S WHAT I EXACTLY WHAT I SAID. IS A TRADITIONAL YOGA YOGA PRACTICE, COMBINING THE SEQUENCE OF POSTURES WITH BREATHING EXERCISES. AND WHEREAS SAY IT AGAIN. WHERE IS. SANG, OR HSS IS A NONPROFIT CHAIR. WE'RE DOING THIS IN UNISON TODAY IS A NON PROFIT CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION WITH OVER 235 BRANCHES AND 100 AND 64 CITIES AND IN 34 STATES, INCLUDING 35 BRANCHES AND THE STATE OF TEXAS, THROUGH WHICH IT CONDUCTS A HINDU VALUES EDUCATION PROGRAM. AND COMMUNITY SERVICE ACTIVITIES SUCH AS FOOD DRIVES, PROVIDING HOT MEALS TO SHELTERS AND OTHER SERVICE ACTIVITIES AND SEVERAL CITIES ACROSS TEXAS. AND WHEREAS HSS IS ORGANIZING ITS 16TH ANNUAL NATIONAL CAMPAIGN HEALTH FOR HUMANITY YOGA THON, ALSO KNOWN AS SERBIA. NASCAR TO MICHIGAN. THAT'S WHAT I SAY SON. CITATION YUCATAN WITH THE GOAL OF HAVING 1000 INDIVIDUAL PARTICIPANTS PRACTICE SYRIA, OSCAR TO PROMOTE THE SPIRITUAL, MENTAL AND PHYSICAL WELL BEING, OF ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS YOGA ENTHUSIASTS, YOGA STUDIOS, LOCAL SCHOOLS AND OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE H S. H S S HEALTH FOR HUMANITY, YOGA THON. NOW. THEREFORE, I GEORGE, FOLLOWED BY THE POWER VESTED IN ME AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JANUARY 14TH 29TH 2023 AS HEALTH FOR HUMANITY. CERTAINLY A NON MASCARA JUST NOW. THE SUN SALUTATION YOGURT HAND WEEKS IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS, RECOGNIZING HSS FOR PROMOTING THE SPIRITUAL, MENTAL AND PHYSICAL WELL BEING, OF ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND URGING CITIZENS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS HEALTH AWARENESS ACTIVITY WITNESSED MY HAND AND SEAL THIS DAY JANUARY 17TH 2023. INSERT. CERTAINLY I HOPE THAT YOU DID NOT. YOU DO NOT TAKE MY NOT KNOWING HOW TO DIFFERENTIATION AS ANY FORM OF DISRESPECT AFRICA. VERY CLOSE WAS SO I WAS WAS SPOT ON CONFUSED. WELL IT WORDS AND SANSKRIT IS THE NATIVE LANGUAGE . SOMETIMES IT BECOMES DIFFICULT FOR US ALSO TO PRONOUNCE ALREADY

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CLOSE. YOU GUYS HEAR THAT VERY CLOSELY. MY WIFE HAS SAID AVID YOGA PERSON AND, UH AND SO I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR WHAT DOES AND THE WHOLE SENSORY AND MENTAL AND SPIRITUAL HEALTH SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, THANKS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR FULLER FOR SUPPORTING THIS FOR SIXTH CONSECUTIVE YEAR I WILL BE ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL MEETING IN FEW MINUTES AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT WE REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE. AND WE ARE VERY PROUD THAT YESTERDAY WAS THE FIRST TIME WE ENGAGED WITH OUR AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, AND WE DID SEVERAL SESSIONS IN AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM ON THE AUSPICIOUS OCCASION OF MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY, AND THERE WAS A HUGE SUPPORT AND APPRECIATION FOR THIS AND THERE ARE A LOT OF REQUESTS HOW WE CAN DO MORE FOR A STRESS MANAGEMENT AND THE COMMUNITY, SO WE ARE PLANNING TO DO A LOT MORE SESSIONS FOR THEM.

SO THIS IS ALL WITH THE SUPPORT OF YOU ALL. AND I KNOW YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN SUPPORTING OUR DIFFERENT EVENTS AND WE HAVE ALSO BEEN COLLABORATING WITH THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. HMM. CONTINENTS. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM IS 2 TO 1 TO 11 RECOGNITION

[Recognition of Animal Control Officer Ashley Thompson for Situational Awareness and Preventative Action]

OF ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER ASHLEY THOMPSON FOR SITUATIONAL AWARENESS AND PREVENTION ACTION.

CARRIE, I THINK YOU ARE COMING UP. I'M TRYING TO GET IT TO COME. YES. MR MAYOR WITH YOUR PERMISSION. DARK HEDGES WITH FIRE STATION NUMBER NINE WOULD LIKE TO READ AN EMAIL THAT I COMPOSE SHORTLY AFTER THIS INCIDENT, THEY'LL BE ALL RIGHT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. ALRIGHT THIS WAS DATED DECEMBER 23RD. IT SAYS TO ALL THIS WAS REALLY KIND OF GAUGE TOWARDS CARRY HER SUPERVISOR. THIS PAST FRIDAY, WE HERE AT STATION NINE RECEIVED A CALL FOR A GAS LEAK INSIDE OF RESIDENTS AT SPRUCE WOOD DRIVE WHEN WE ARRIVED ON THE SCENE, ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER ASHLEY THOMPSON WAS STANDING WITH THE HOMEOWNER OUTSIDE THE RESIDENCE AND RELATE TO US THAT AS SHE APPROACHED THE HOME WHILE FOLLOWING A DOG, A STRAY DOG THAT WAS LOOSE, SHE SMELLED WHAT SHE THOUGHT WAS GAS COMING FROM INSIDE THE RESIDENCE. EXCUSE ME. AS OUR CREWS ENTERED THE HOUSE, WE'RE NOT ONLY COULD SMELL IT, BUT WE COULD SEE FROM OUR GAS MONITOR THAT HAD REACHED SUCH A LEVEL. THAT EXPLOSION COULD VERY WELL COULD OCCUR AT ANY TIME. WE SHUT OFF THE GAS. TO THE HOME AND WE BEGAN TO AIR OUT THE HOME IN ORDER TO BRING THE GAS LEVELS BACK DOWN. OFFICER THOMPSON HAD MADE CONTACT WITH A HOMEOWNER WHO WAS SLEEPING DOWNSTAIRS IN A BEDROOM AT THE TIME IT WAS UNAWARE OF THE GAS LEVELS WERE RISING IN THE HOME. WITHOUT THE INTERVENTION OF OFFICER THOMPSON. I BELIEVE CATASTROPHIC EVENT COULD HAVE OCCURRED AT ANY TIME AT THE VERY LEAST, AS THE GAS WAS INCREASING IN THE HOME AND THE HOMEOWNERS NOT BEING AWARE HE WAS OTHERS VERY WELL COULD HAVE DIED FROM C 02 EXPOSURE. OFFICER THOMPSON'S INSTINCTS AND ACTIONS SAVED LIVES THAT DAY. SO I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE PASS ON HER. WHAT A GREAT JOB THAT SHE DID BY STAYING ENGAGED IN WORKING TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. SHE'S THE KIND OF PLOY THAT THE SYRIAN MCKINNEY IS KNOWN FOR, AND WE ASK THAT SHE BE TOLD GREAT JOB. ASHLEY IT WAS SIGNED DIRK HEDGES STATION NUMBER NINE. STEP UP, CAPTAIN BISHOP. WE HAVE TWO AWARDS. WE HAVE AN S CITIZENS ACTION AWARD WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO ASHLEY AND I THINK OUR ASSISTANT CHIEF WOULD LIKE TO GIVE HER ONE OF OUR CHALLENGE GOING. SO THANK YOU. CAN.

DOWN THERE. 123. THANK YOU, ASHLEIGH JOB SAVING LIVES. DOG DROVE UP. ALL RIGHT.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS (for Non-Public Hearing Items)]

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NEXT ON THE AGENDAS. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS FOR NON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. I DO HAVE A NUMBER OF CARDS. THE FIRST IS PRIOR TO GODHRA AND AGAIN, DRA SORRY. PRONOUNCE THAT CORRECTLY.

ALREADY TO YOURSELF. RESPECTED MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. GOOD EVENING AND NO MISTAKE. MY NAME IS PRIYA. AND I'M VOLUNTEERED AT HINDU SWIM, CIVIL SONG, JUSTICE AND HINDU TEMPLE IN PLANO. I'M AN I T PROFESSIONAL YOGA ENTHUSIASTS. TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THE 18TH AND WILL HELP FOR HUMANITY YUCATAN OR PSEUDONYM MASCOT CIGNA. ORGANIZED BY THE TEXAS USA. THE 16 DAY EVENT AIMS TO CREATE AWARENESS ABOUT YOGA AND ITS ADVANTAGES IN ACHIEVING A HEALTHY BODY. MIND AND SPIRIT. THE MASCOT OR SAN SALUTATION, INTEGRATES SIMPLE YOGA POSTURES , INTENSE STEPS THAT, ALONG WITH SIMPLE BREATHING TECHNIQUES CAN PROVIDE IMMENSE HEALTH BENEFITS TO BOTH THE BODY AND THE MIND. I MYSELF AND PRACTICING SUN SALUTATION EVERY DAY FOR OVER SIX YEARS NOW AND HAVE EXPERIENCED ALL ITS HEALTH BENEFITS. EACH YEAR ON JANUARY 14TH HINDUS WORLDWIDE CELEBRATE MERKERSON GRANTEE A DAY THAT MARKS THE CHANGING OF THE SEASONS. MARKET GRANTEE USHERS IN LONGER DAYS, WHICH IS WHY THE FESTIVAL SYMBOLIZES SUNSHINE IN LIFE. TO MARK THIS OCCASION AT JUSTICE HAS ORGANIZED THE HELPFUL HUMANITY WITH DON FROM JANUARY 14TH TO JANUARY 29TH 2023. JUSTICE INITIATED THIS HEALTH AWARENESS PROJECT IN 2007 , NOW IN ITS 18TH YEAR SINCE ITS INCEPTION, PARTICIPANTS OF ALL FAITHS AND BELIEFS FROM 43 STATES HAVE ACTIVELY TAKEN PART IN THE YOGA THANH THROUGH YOGA CENTERS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS , SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES. COLLECTIVELY WE HAVE PARTICIPATED IN AND PERFORMED OVER FOUR MILLION SUN SALUTATIONS. COMMUNITY LEADERS AND MANY ELECTED OFFICIALS ACROSS THE NATION HAVE SHOWN THEIR APPRECIATION FOR THIS INITIATIVE AND ENBRIDGE THE RESIDENTS TO PARTICIPATE AND GAIN THE BENEFITS OF AN OVERALL HEALTHY LIFESTYLE. THIS YEAR.

JUSTICE INVITES COMMUNITY GROUPS , YOGA CENTERS, STUDENTS AND INDIVIDUALS TO LEARN AND PARTICIPATE IN THE HEALTH FOR HUMANITY. YUCATAN THIS PROGRAM IS OPEN TO PEOPLE OF ALL AGES, GENDERS AND RACES, AND WE ASPIRE TO COLLABORATE WITH CITY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO REACH OUT TO MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. OUR GOAL IS TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN FROM OUR CITY. TO REAP THE BENEFITS OF THIS INITIATIVE. ON BEHALF OF ALL LOCAL HINDU ORGANIZATIONS AND THE LOCAL HINDU COMMUNITY. GOD AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU. HMM. MAHESH SHARMA, MARIA.

EXCUSE ME, DID IT? I GUESS I'LL GO BEFORE HIM. RESPECTED MAYOR GEORGE FULLER AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. GOOD EVENING, ANIMISTIC . MY NAME IS VIVICA. I'M A FRESHMAN AT IMAGINE INTERNATIONAL ACADEMY OF NORTH TEXAS, PROUD RESIDENT OF MCKINNEY. AS A VOLUNTEER OF MANY LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING HSS TODAY, I WANT TO BRIEFLY SHARE SOME UPDATES ABOUT THE RECENTLY CONDUCTED THE VALLEY FOOD DONATION DRIVE. THE VALLEY IS A NATIONWIDE FOOD INITIATIVE THAT WAS STARTED A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK WHEN LOCAL VOLUNTEERS CAME TOGETHER ON THE OCCASION OF A MAJOR HINDU FESTIVAL, THE VALLEY, ALSO KNOWN AS THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS. TOGETHER WITH VARIOUS COMMUNITIES. WE COLLECT FOOD AND DONATE IT TO THOSE DURING THE SEASON OF GIVING OUR MISSION IS TO COLLECT AND CONNECT. JUST DRIVE IS COORDINATED BY IN THIS WAY BACK.

STAN ALSO KNOWN AS HSS, ALONG WITH OTHER LIKE MINDED ORGANIZATIONS, SUCH AS THE INTERNATIONAL COMMISSION. HUNGER MODEL B. A. P. S ASKED IF W. LOCAL TEMPLES ENDEMIC LEADERS IN NOVEMBER OF 2022 OVER THE PERIOD OF FOUR WEEKS WE COLLECTED OVER £650,000 OF FOOD ACROSS THE NATION AND £109 OF THAT FOOD WAS COLLECTED IN DALLAS ALONE. THAT'S FOOD WAS DISTRIBUTED TO THE VARIOUS FOOD PANTRIES AND FOOD BANKS, WHICH SERVED OVER 525,000 MEALS. IN DALLAS. WE DONATED FOOD TO THE NORTH TEXAS FOOD BANK. SEVERAL LOCAL PANTRIES CONDUCTED A FULL DAY DISTRIBUTION AT METRO CRUST AND DONATED SEVERAL WEEKS OF GROCERIES TO MORE THAN 380 FAMILIES OUT OF DRIVE THROUGH THAT WAS HELD AT THE TEMPLE COMPLEX. ALSO THERE WAS A LARGE DONATION OF PERISHABLE AND NON PERISHABLE GOODS TO THE HOMELESS CENTERS. OUR DAILY BREAD IN DENTON AND THE SAMARITAN IN MCKINNEY. IN CONTINUATION WITH OUR APPRECIATION TO THE FIRST RESPONDERS WHO RISKED THEIR LIVES TO PROTECT US. THERE WAS A DONATION TO THE MCKINNEY, FIRE DEPARTMENT, FRISCO POLICE AND PLANO POLICE DEPARTMENT. THIS IS THE VALLEY INITIATIVE BROUGHT

[00:15:03]

TOGETHER 200 PLUS DYNAMIC ORGANIZATIONS TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THE WELFARE OF THEIR LOCAL TOWNS, CITIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE TRUE SPIRIT OF THE UNIVERSITY. IN DIVERSITY. THERE WAS A COLLABORATION WITH MEMBERS OF THE INTERFAITH ALLIANCE, AUSTRIAN FAITHS AND MANY MEMBERS OF THE UNIFICATION IN SCIENTOLOGY CHURCH. COUNCIL MEMBERS. AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. CORE VALUES ARE REPRESENTED THROUGH THE ACRONYM RISE. IN WHICH THE S STANDS FOR SERVICE, THE CORE ESSENCE OF THE SIVA. THE VALLEY INITIATIVE IS THAT SERVICE TO HUMANITY IN SERVICE TO DIVINITY. WE BELIEVE THAT SERVING OTHERS IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF RELIGION. ON BEHALF OF ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THE MANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE REPRESENTED BY THEIR LEADERSHIP HERE TODAY. WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO TO KEEP OUR CITY UNIQUE AND ONE OF THE BEST PLACES TO LIVE. I WANT TO QUICKLY END THIS VERT AND THE SPEECH WITH A VERSE FROM THE BUG WITH GEETA AND ANCIENT HINDU SCRIPTURE. THE, UH THE DAMAGE DONE THE CARD COLLEGE CREATURE THAT DIME SOUTH BECOMES MET THEM . ALL THIS MEANS IS THAT WE SHOULD GIVE WITH RESPECT AND LOVE GIVING IS GOOD. AND IF THE GIFT IS GIVEN WITH A PURE HEART WITHOUT EXPECTING ANYTHING IN RETURN THAN IT IS AN ACT THAT WILL LET YOU REACH THE HIGHEST FORM OF SPIRITUALITY AND TRUE HUMANITY. ONCE AGAIN. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND HELP IN MAKING THE CITY BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE NATURE ON BEHALF OF ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS HERE AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. BRAHMA SERENI DEVIA. GOOD EVENING. NAMASTE I AM A SPIRITUAL LEADER REPRESENTING CHINMAYA MISSION AND THE SUPPORTING ORGANIZATION OF HSS INITIATIVES. AND I WANT TO WISH ALL OF YOU HAPPY. SOLSTICE CELEBRATION OR AS WE SAY, HAPPY MAGARA, SANKARAN THI. THIS IS A TIME WHEN THE SUN MOVES INTO THE CAPRICORN SOLSTICE MARKS THE BEGINNING OF THE SUN RAYS, INCREASING ITS GIVING CAPACITY WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. AND IT IS ALSO THEREFORE, THE TIME THAT WE CELEBRATE THE HARVEST FESTIVAL. I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE H H S S IS INITIATIVES OF THE STUDIO. NO MASCARA MAGNA AND THAT INITIATIVE TO HELP INVIGORATE THE INDIVIDUALS. CAPACITY. SO.

STUDIO NUMBER. SKAARA IS A PART OF YOGA ASANA YOGA TONIGHT IS THAT ANCIENT HINDU TECHNIQUE DEVELOPED, RESEARCHED AND PRACTICED UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF THE GREAT BHAGWAN RISHI. BUT ANJALI AND THIS TECHNIQUE HELPS INTEGRATE THE INDIVIDUAL ON THE BODY, MIND AND INTELLECTUAL LEVELS. AND IT ALSO HELPS THE INDIVIDUAL SYNCHRONIZE THEIR MICROCOSMIC ENERGY TO BE IN SYNC WITH THAT MACRO COSMIC ENERGY. AND IT'S SUCH AN INTEGRATION AND REGULATION THAT TRANSFORMS THAT INDIVIDUAL TO EXPERIENCE A LASTING PEACE AND JOY. AND IT IS SUCH A REFINED INDIVIDUAL THAT CAN EXCEL IN CONTRIBUTING THAT PEACE AND JOY TO THE COMMUNITY AROUND US. SO ON BEHALF OF ALL HINDUS, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK AND APPRECIATE THIS PROCLAMATION OF THIS AGE OLD SCIENCE OF INTEGRATION CALLED YOGA ASANA. AND I WANT TO ASK FOR THE BLESSINGS FOR ALL OF US FOR THAT EXPERIENCE OF PEACE AND JOY, AND LET US REAP THE BOUNTIES OF THE CROP IN WHATEVER FORM THAT WE DO END UP HARVESTING THIS SEASON. SO I WANT TO SAY NAMASTE, HARRY . UM AND THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE. CORRECT.

OKAY, SIR, SIR. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I MISS. SO WAS THAT YOUR DAUGHTER IMPRESSIVE. THANK YOU. YOUR BRAIN IS ALSO FROM YOUR FROM YOUR FAVORITE SCHOOL. I SEE ALL THESE TALKS TO ME. HOW DO YOU LIKE HOW MUCH YOU LIKE? IMAGINE INTERNATIONAL. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. GOOD EVENING AND NAMASTE. EXPECTED MERE FULLER AND ALL OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, MANY OF YOU WHOM I HAVE ENGAGED AND INTERACTED ON VARIOUS EVENTS ORGANIZED BY HSS AND OUR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, AND WE PARTICIPATED IN MANY CITY EVENTS. TODAY I TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THIS ESTEEMED LEADERSHIP. AND ALL THE SUPPORTED STAFF FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY AND KEEP US SAFE, PROTECTED AND A PROUD RESIDENT OF ONE OF THE BEST CITY TO LIVE IN USA. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TELL THAT THE WEIGHT 2022 HAPPENED. IT WAS A SUPER BUSY YEAR FOR EVERYONE AFTER THE PANDEMIC AND THE WAY EVERYONE COPED UP WITH THE OPENING OF THE THINGS SO MANY

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THINGS WITH CITY DID. STARTING WITH SUN SALUTATION IN JANUARY, 2022. TO THE EVENT TO API EVENT TO DEVELOPING THE MCKINNEY LIBRARY. TOO MANY OTHER FIRE WORKING MECHANISM, WHICH IS UNIQUE ACROSS THE STATE, THANKS TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS, WHICH YOU SUPPORTED, AND WE COLLABORATED. THEY WISHED TO CONTINUE THE SAME LEVEL OF COLLABORATION WITH ALL OUR VOLUNTEERS IN THE COMING YEAR. 2024 2023 WITH ALL THESE THINGS. WHEN SO MUCH OF POSITIVITY IS HAPPENING ALL AROUND, AND WE FEEL SO NICE TO BE A PART OF A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT A KIND OF TREND, WHICH IS GOING ON IN MANY CITY COUNCILS. THIS IS ACROSS THE NATION. THERE ARE SOME NEGATIVE INVADERS WHO ARE NOT EVEN A PART OF MCKINNEY, NOT EVEN A PART OF CALLING COUNTY, NOT EVEN A PART OF TEXAS. THEY ARE COMING THERE IN CITY COUNCILS DID THIS RIGHT TO SPEECH ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND TRY TO SPREAD NEGATIVITY SPREAD WRONG INFORMATION. ABOUT THE COMMUNITIES. THIS HAS NOT HAPPENED JUST IN TAXES, BUT MANY OTHER STATES AND TRUST ME IN MANY OF THE STATES COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW HOW TO TRASH THIS PERPETRATORS. SORRY TO USE THE STRONG WORDS, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN CREATING A LOT OF NEGATIVITY AND THE SENSE OF FEAR AND INSECURITY AMONG THE COMMUNITY. BUT I ASSURE YOU, THIS IS A VERY STRONG COMMUNITY. WE WILL CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE A PARTNERSHIP THE WAY WE ARE HAVING AND OUR GOODWILL AND GESTURE WILL CONTINUE. NOTHING IS GOING TO DETER US. BUT IT WAS ALSO MY DUTY AS A LEADER FROM A FROM OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE I HIGHLIGHTED THAT NO ONE CAN COME AND SPOIL THE PEACE AND HARMONY OF OUR CITY. WITH THIS, I WOULD AGAIN LIKE TO THANK YOU. AND ALSO FOR THE SIXTH YEAR CONSECUTIVELY, WHICH MACANESE GIVING US THE PROCLAMATION FOR SALUTATION, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THIS FOR THE CITY. AS I WAS MENTIONING YESTERDAY. WE WERE VERY PROUD TO DO THIS MULTIPLE YOGA SESSIONS ON OUR SPECIES OCCASION OF MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM. AND IT WAS VERY , VERY APPRECIATED AND WE HAD A LOT OF REQUESTS ALREADY THERE TO DO THIS AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT FOR THE COMMUNITY. I KNOW DOCTOR. WE HAVE INTERACTED IN THE PAST, AND I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO TAKE YOUR GUIDANCE AND SEE HOW WE CAN EXPAND THIS TO MANY OTHER FOLKS, BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE A LOT OF RICH IN THIS COMMUNITY. WITH THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO END WITH ONE OF OUR MANTRA FROM HINDU SCRIPTURE OPEN ISN'T AND I QUOTE IT ALL ON SANTANA. POWER TO SAY HANNO NATO TO HAVE IDIOM HAND JUST RINA WHAT HE MUST TO MARVIN WITH MY HAND OWN SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI HOME! MAYBE PROTECTED. MAYBE WHEN IT NOURISHED, MAYBE WORK TOGETHER WITH GREAT ENERGY. MAY OUR KNOWLEDGE BE RADIANT. MAY THERE BE NO DIFFERENCE OR DISPUTE BETWEEN US PEACE, PEACE PEACE. THIS MANTRA FROM ENSIGN HINDU SCRIPTURES IS THAT DIVINE GUIDANCE DURING THE TIME OF A STRUGGLE, TROUBLE AND UNHAPPINESS. IT REMINDS US ALL THAT THERE IS A GREAT POWER OF LOVE. SUPPORT FOR ONE ANOTHER IS IMPORTANT FORCE IN SOLVING ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS. LOVE GIVES US COURAGE TO PAUSE. THINK AND CONSIDER OUR ACTIONS FROM MAHATMA OF THE EAST TO THE KING OF THE WEST. ALL HAVE RECKONED WITH THE FORCE OF LOVE. DARE TO LOVE THEIR TO DREAM AS MY MASTER SAYS, LOVE SELF AND FEED, DANIEL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BEFORE WE LEAVE THE SUBJECT OF.

YOGA I WAS GONNA RICK WANTED TO, UM TO THE SIDE CROW. POSITION IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU WOULD DEMONSTRATE THAT FOR EVERYBODY. I HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT SIDE CROW IS. SO I'M GOING TO I'M VERY INTERESTED. YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE GOING TO DO THAT FOR EVERYBODY IS THAT I DON'T GOING HOME. WELL THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A TREAT. I'M SORRY THAT THAT WON'T HAPPEN, SO WE WILL THEN

[CONSENT AGENDA]

MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEM. ITEMS THESE ITEMS CONSISTENT NONCONTROVERSIAL HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS REQUIRED BY LAW ITEMS MAY BE CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY BY ANY COUNCIL MEMBER MAKING SUCH REQUEST PRIOR TO EMOTION AND VOTE ON THE CONSENT ITEMS IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE CENTERS. IS THERE ANY ITEMS COUNSELOR LIKE TO PULL DOWN FOR DISCUSSION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. SECOND OKAY? ALL IN FAVOR, HIGH POST. RIGHT. MOVE ON

[PLAT CONSIDERATION under Chapter 212 of the Texas Local Government Code]

TO PLAN CONSIDERATIONS UNDER CHAPTER 2 12, TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. ITEM 2 TO 0 TO, 56 PP. CONSIDER DISCUSS ACT ON A PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR THE LOTS, ONE R AND THREE ARE BLOCKADE OF

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WYSONG HOSPITAL EDITION, LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF VIRGINIA PARKWAY IN NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY. JENNIFER THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. JENNIFER ARNOLD, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AS YOU READ. THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLATT FOR CONSIDERATION AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF US 75 15 YEAR PARKWAY ATTRACT ITSELF IS ABOUT 8.8 ACRES IN SIZE AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO SUBDIVIDE THE LOT INTO TWO LOTS FOR DEVELOPMENT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DISAPPROVAL OF THIS PLAT DUE TO ITS LACK OF CONFORMANCE WITH THE CITY SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, WHICH INCLUDES THE ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL. I WILL NOTE THAT AS PART OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, THE APPLICANT WAS REQUESTING AN ENGINEERING VARIANTS RELATED TO DRIVEWAY OR INTERSECTIONS.

FACING THAT VARIANCE REQUEST WAS CONSIDERED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT UNDER THEIR AUTHORITY WITH ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL, AND THEY DENIED THAT VARIANCE REQUEST, WHICH IS THE PRIMARY REASON FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF DISAPPROVAL FOR TONIGHT. I DO KNOW THAT THIS PARTICULAR TRACT IS ONE THAT HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF A LOT OF DISCUSSION LEADING UP TO TONIGHT. I KNOW OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS HERE TO WALK THROUGH ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE REGARDING THEIR CONSIDERATION OF THAT VARIANCE REQUEST, AND I DO WANT TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT WHILE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THIS TRACT, THEY SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND THE PLATFORM CONSIDERATION TONIGHT IS STRICTLY LOOKING AT THE SUBDIVISION OF THE PROPERTY FOR DEVELOPMENT. THE DEDICATION OF INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY EASEMENTS. QUESTIONS REGARDING ZONING AND LAND USE WOULD BETTER BE SERVED FOR PENCIL REZONING REQUEST OR HANDLED OUTSIDE OF THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST. UM BEFORE YOU SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO STEP BACK. I'LL LET ENGINEERING TAKE THE LEAD ON WALKING THROUGH PRESENTATION THEY HAVE REGARDING THAT VARIANCE AND GO FROM THERE. GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL GARY GRAHAM, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING. WE'VE GOT A SHORT LITTLE PRESENTATION HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS ON VIRGINIA PARKWAY AND WHY WE ARE ASKING YOU NOT TO GRANT THIS VARIANCE.

SO FIRST A LITTLE CONTEXT AND GET YOUR BEARINGS. PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS THE SOUTHWEST CORNER VIRGINIA AND THE 75 YEAR 75 INTERCHANGE. UM RANDY LEE IS ON THE WEST SIDE. IT'S ABOUT NINE OR 1400 FT. WEST OF US 75. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS REQUESTING A SIGNAL BE PLACED 400 FT FROM THE U. S 75 INTERSECTION. AND FOR SOME CONTEXT WILSON RE PARKWAY'S IS 1000 FT TO THE EAST. UH VIRGINIA PARKWAY, SIX LANE ARTERIAL WEST OF US, 75 POSTED SEA LEVEL 40 MILES AN HOUR AS PART OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT THE CONSULTANT DID IN JUNE OF EXCUSE ME IN MAY OF 2020 THAT CAN TOTAL TRAFFIC VOLUME OUT THERE WAS JUST UNDER 35,000 VEHICLES A DAY. UH UM. THAT TRAFFIC HAS BEEN GROWING. UM SINCE 2019 WHEN WE SAW THE LITTLE DIP WITH THE PANDEMIC, 2020 UM STAFF OFFICE ALSO FEELS THAT THAT TRAFFIC GOING IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE. IF YOU THINK ABOUT EAST WEST CORRIDORS FROM 3 80 SOUTH, THERE'S ONLY THREE YOU HAVE YOURS, 3 80, WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO AVOID, BECAUSE ALL THE CONGESTION ON THAT ROADWAY YOU HAVE VIRGINIA AND THEN YOU HAVE ELDORADO AND ELDORADO. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE BOTTLENECK FROM HARDEN OVER 2 75 , THE FOUR LANE ROAD THAT WON'T BE EXPANDED BECAUSE OF THE TREES AND THE MEDIA IN THAT AREA, SO WE HAVE NO PLANS TO WIDEN THAT ROAD. SO AS WE HAVE ADDITIONAL GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY BETWEEN 3 80 ELDORADO. A LOT OF THOSE TRIPS WILL CHOOSE TO COME UP TO VIRGINIA. TO GO EAST WEST INSTEAD OF TRYING TO USE 3 80 OR ELDORADO. UM EMPRESS. HEY, CAN YOU START THAT VIDEO FOR ME? YEP SO I'VE GOT WE HAVE AT ALL OUR TRAFFIC SIGNALS ARE ALMOST ALL WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECORD ACTUAL CONDITIONS OUT THERE. AND SO WE HAVE A RECORDING FROM JUST A RANDOM DAY AND DECEMBER WHEN, UH, CITY MANAGER GRIMES CITY MANAGER FLAM MYSELF. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR MICHAEL QUINT. UM HAD ALL WE'RE GETTING READY TO MEET.

AND SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING, AND YOU CAN START TO SEE THE VEHICLE CUES THAT ARE OUT THERE. OH, DISPLAY THAT YEAH. THERE YOU GO. THIS IS LOOKING EASTBOUND FROM RANDY LEE. SO YOU CAN SEE US 75 IN THE IN THE DISTANCE THERE, AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE VEHICLE KEYS THAT ARE BACKING UP. UM WELL CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT OR WITHOUT AN ADDITIONAL GROWTH THAT IS AS THEY'RE CONCERNED. WHEN YOU HAVE THIS TYPE OF SITUATION. IT CAN IMPACT WHAT WE CALL TRAFFIC PROGRESSION. AND SO WE TALK

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ABOUT PROPER SPACING OF SIGNALS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE GOOD PROGRESSION OF TRAFFIC. SO WHAT WE TRY TO DO, ESPECIALLY AS YOU'RE COMING ALONG THE CORRIDOR GROUP TRAFFIC AT A SIGNAL PUT IN A WHAT WE CALL PLATOON AND WE MOVED THEM THROUGH THE CORRIDOR PROGRESS THAT TRAFFIC WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE CLOSELY SPACED SIGNALS MAKES IT HARDER AND HARDER TO DO. SO THE RULE OF THUMB STANDARD LITERATURE SAYS SIGNALS SHOULD BE SPACED 1300 FT APART. QUARTER MILE 13 WHATEVER 13 TWENTIES, ACTUALLY, QUARTER MILE OR ENGINEERING DESIGN MAY KNOW WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT OF 1200. AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF EXCEPTIONS WITHIN THE CITY. THERE ARE DOWN AT 801 BEING AT BAYLOR AT US, 3 80 JUST TO THE WEST OF LAKE FOREST. SO WE MAKE EXCEPTIONS FOR THOSE AND THEN WE DON'T WANT A CASE BY CASE BASIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN STILL TRY TO ACHIEVE THAT GOOD PROGRESSION OF TRAFFIC ALONG THE CORRIDORS. WHEN YOU START TO SEE THOSE LONG QUEUES LIKE WE HAD THERE JUST A SECOND AGO. YOU CAN HAVE THAT BACK UP ACTUALLY GO FROM INTO THE NEXT INTERSECTION . WE CALL THAT APPROACH TO BUILD BACK THAT COULD BE ON THE SAME DIRECTION OR IT COULD BE FROM THE SIDE STREET. SO SAY RANDY LEE WAS TRYING TO TURN LEFT TO GO EAST THEY COULD HIT THAT HIT THAT SAME VEHICLE. Q AS WELL. SO BOTH OF THOSE SITUATIONS ARE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID ON THOSE VEHICLES SPILL BACK. UM. THE LAST THING I WANT TO JUST MENTION AS WE TALK ABOUT THE VEHICLE CUES IS WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE IN THERE, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT CONGESTION. UM WE LOST THAT. ALRIGHT, I'LL DANCE. UH HUH. IF YOU CAN KEEP UP PLAYING, IT'S FINE. UM THE LAST THING THAT WE HAVE THERE IS, UM , WE WANT TO MENTION IS WHEN YOU HAVE THAT CONGESTION IS COMING INTO THE CORRIDOR TO TRY TO PREVENT THOSE VEHICLE CUES, BACKING UP AND PREVENTING BLOCKING DRIVEWAYS AND IMPEDING OPERATIONS. WE WILL MEET HER THE TRAFFIC WHAT WE CALL METER. AND SO WE WILL USE THE UPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM SIGNALS TO CONTROL HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS COMING INTO THAT CORRIDOR. TO TRY TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF DISRUPTION THAT THOSE VEHICLE QUEUES COULD HAPPEN. UM TWO THINGS THAT IMPACT THAT OUR EMERGENCY VEHICLE PREEMPTION SO ON ALL OUR TRAFFIC SIGNALS WHEN I, UH EMERGENCY VEHICLE FIRE TRUCK, AMBULANCE OR POLICE OFFICERS APPROACHING ONE OF THE SIGNALS. THEY HAVE A DEVICE THAT PREEMPTS THE SIGNAL TURNS IT GREEN FOR THEM, RIGHT WHEN THAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE TWO SIGNALS OR CLOSE TOGETHER, AND THEY'RE RELAYING ON, OKAY? THIS SIGNAL GOES GREEN, AND THEN THIS ONE'S GOING TO GO GREEN 10 SECONDS LATER TO KEEP THAT PROGRESSION. WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE VEHICLES PREEMPTION COMING IN, LIKE MAYBE FROM THE NORTH. IT MESSES THAT COMMUNICATION TAKES A LITTLE TIME TO GET BACK AND SINK THAT CAN CAUSE MORE AND MORE OF THOSE CUES TO HAPPEN. WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MEET HER THE SIGNALS AS EFFICIENTLY. THE OTHER IMPACTED CAN HAPPEN IS IF YOU HAD PEDESTRIANS AT ONE ACROSS, SAY AT THAT PROPOSED SIGNAL FROM THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SOUTH SIDE IF THEY WANT TO WALK TO THE DEVELOPMENT. WE DON'T TIME OUR SIGNALS TO PROVIDE ENOUGH TIME TO WALK ACROSS VIRGINIA PARKWAY UNLESS SOMEBODY ACTUALLY PUSHES THE PEDESTRIAN BUTTON THAT SAYS, WALK RIGHT, AND SO WE DO THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S JUST THE TIME REQUIRED TO MAKE THAT WALK MOVEMENT. IS GREATER THAN THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE NEED TO MOVE THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL OR THE VEHICLES IN THAT GREEN TIME. AND SO WE ONLY DO IT WHEN WE NEED TO. SO I'M TRYING TO AVOID GETTING TOO TECHNICAL UNDER THE OPERATION OF TRAFFIC SIGNALS, BUT BECAUSE OF THOSE ISSUES WE'RE ASKING YOU NOT TO APPROVE THIS, UM, VARIANCE REQUEST. NOT A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE. IT'S MORE OF A LEVEL OF SERVICE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE. WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN TO MOVE THAT TRAFFIC ALONG THE CORRIDOR EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE. YOU CAN SEE HERE TODAY THAT THOSE VEHICLE ACCUSED VERY QUITE A BIT . BUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN TIME IS THE VEHICLE ACCUSED GET CONSISTENTLY LONGER IMPACTING THE OPERATION ON THE CORRIDOR, SO I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

QUESTIONS FOR GARY. NO POINT. I'M SORRY. MY QUESTION. I'M ASSUMING THERE IS A MOURNING PERIOD OF TIME AS WELL. WHERE YOU SEE A LOT OF CONGESTION ON VIRGINIA IN ADDITION TO THIS FIVE PM OUR DO WE KNOW WHAT THE SPAN OF THAT TIME IS THAT YOU TYPICALLY SEE THE HIGHEST TRAFFIC SO IT'S USUALLY AM AND PM PEAK HOURS. ALSO YOU MIGHT SEE IT AT LUNCHTIME, RIGHT? UM HOW LONG SO WE'RE LOOKING AT FIVE O'CLOCK? YES SO THIS WILL GO FROM FIVE TO MAYBE 66 30. YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON THE DAY EACH DAY HAS A LITTLE BIT VARIATION IN THE TRAFFIC PATTERN. THE CONGESTION IS NOT AWFUL. AT THIS POINT. WE JUST THINK IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW AND GET WORSE. REALLY EMPLOY ANY KIND OF STUDY ON AND THIS INTERSECTION. I MEAN, SO THE CONSULTANT DID A TRAFFIC STUDY TO ONE WARRANT. THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL THE FIRST QUALIFICATION AND WITH THE

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PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IN THE EXPECTED PATTERNS OF TRAVEL FROM THAT SIGNAL, WE AGREE WITH THE CONCLUSIONS THAT YOU COULD WARRANT A SIGNAL. WE HAVE THE TEXAS MANUAL UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES THAT DICTATES THE WARRANTS REQUIRED FOR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, AND IT MET THOSE THRESHOLDS IN THAT, UH THAT MANDEL BUT, HOWEVER, THE MANUAL ITSELF SAYS IF IT MEETS THE WARRANT'S NOT IS NOT JUSTIFICATION FOR SIGNAL. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE OPERATIONS AS WELL. YOU DO KNOW THAT? MY DESK IN MY OFFICE. I LOOK AT THAT INTERSECTION. TWICE A DAY TO DAY. YEAH, OKAY. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE AWARE YES, SIR. SO. THE SPACE THAT SO THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A TRAFFIC LIGHT SPACE WHERE THE CARS WILL END AND THE CARS WOULD STOP.

WHAT HOW BIG IS THAT SPACE FROM FROM THE PROPOSED SIGNAL TO US? 75 NO, NO, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE INTERSECTION. HOW BIG IS THAT INTERSECTION INTERSECTIONS, ROUGHLY 80 TO 100 FT WIDE. 100 FT WIDE. I MEAN, YOU WILL PROVIDE THOSE MEDIAN MOVEMENTS AND THIS ONE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT NARROWER BECAUSE IT'S JUST A UH UM, MINOR STREET . SO MAYBE IT'S NOT QUITE THAT LARGE. I HAVEN'T LOOKED BECAUSE WHAT I SEE IN MY IN MY HEAD IS, IS IT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE ADDING ABOUT 45 CARS. IN THAT SPACE. YEAH, THAT'S THE WHERE, YOU KNOW SO INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW , I MEAN, INSTEAD OF UP FIVE CARS, THEN YOU'RE BACK FIVE CARS , SO THAT'S THAT'S AND I DON'T SEE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN A FIVE CAR. SPACE I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ALL THE YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS FEEDER AND THAT FEEDER AND DOING ALL THIS AND YOU'RE SAYING WHAT'S GOING TO GET WORSE? WELL, I MEAN, IT'S FIVE CARS TO PUT A BUSINESS THERE. SO THAT THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT IT IS I MEAN, I IN AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE. IS THAT YOU? YOU KNOW, I CONTINUE CAN CONSTANTLY BRING THIS UP IS YOU GUYS AT THE CITY WILL STOP. REALLY NICE BUSINESS FROM GOING IN BECAUSE OF SOME TRAFFIC LITTLE THING THAT YOU WANT TO DO. WE'RE NOT GONNA LET YOU KEEP THAT OPENING.

WE'VE GOT TO CLOSE THIS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU, YOU KNOW, COME IN THERE. I DON'T TRUST STAFF WHEN IT COMES TO THIS AND BUSINESSES. I JUST DON'T I MEAN IT JUST BECAUSE Y'ALL HAVE STOPPED GOOD BUSINESSES COMING IN. AND SO I JUST GOT TO LOOK AT IT LIKE, UH, LIKE JUST SOME GUY THAT CAN CAN LOOK AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT IS IT? DOES IT MAKE SENSE OR NOT? ALL YOUR LITTLE STUDIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE TO ME BECAUSE HE ALWAYS STOP A GOOD BUSINESS FROM COMING IN BECAUSE THEY YOU WON'T LET THEM HAVE A AN ENTRANCE OR AN EXIT. THAT'S MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE? BECAUSE WE KNOW THIS IS A HARD COMMERCIAL CORNER. WE WANT TO SEE SOMETHING GOOD. GO HERE. UM AND IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING GOOD IS COMING HERE IN THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, KNOWING THAT IT IS GOING TO BRING TRAFFIC WE YOU WANT TO SEE IT DEVELOPED. WE WANTED TO SEE A DEVELOPED NICELY. I'M GLAD THE OLD HOSPITAL IS GONE. BUT WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE AT THIS POINT? GOING TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HERE AS FAR AS ACCESS? YES SO I MEAN, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO VIRGINIA PARKWAY AND TO THE U. S 75 FRONTAGE ROAD. AND SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO USE DEPENDING ON WHAT MOVEMENT THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE. USE ONE OF THOSE DRIVEWAYS TO UTILIZE ONE OF THOSE MOVEMENTS. IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GO BACK WEST, THEY COULD UTILIZE THE WE'RE NOT CLOSING THE MEDIAN OPENING. THEY WOULD HAVE TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE A LEFT HAND MANEUVER THERE OR THEY LOOK FOR AN ALTERNATE ROUTE. THE ALTERNATE ROUTE COULD BE GOING DOWN TO EL DORADO COULD BE USING A STREET A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH THERE, THEY ROCKHILL ROAD OR NORTH PARK THAT GETS YOU OVER TO JORDAN'S WHERE THERE'S A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT JORDAN'S CAN ACCESS VIRGINIA. UM SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACCESSING COMING TO ACCESS THIS BUSINESS, LIVING THE SUBDIVISION DIRECTLY TO THE WEST THERE AND THAT WOULD FACILITATE THEIR ACCESS TO THEIR BUSINESS OR THEIR HOMES AS WELL. IF YOU'RE GOING WESTBOUND, YOU KNOW, I THINK ALL OF THOSE OTHER POINTS OF ACCESS WE'RE GOING TO REALLY TAKE YOU QUITE QUITE AWAY A DISTANCE OUT OF THE WAY. UM I DRIVE THIS STREET EVERY SINGLE DAY COMING IN AND OUT OF WORK. MY CONCERN IS THAT LEFT HAND TURN GOING IN THERE. THERE ARE ALWAYS PEOPLE BLOCKING THAT TURN ALREADY ACTUALLY SEE THE UTILITY OF A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE. IT MIGHT ACTUALLY PROVIDE SOME MORE SAFETY. YES, A LITTLE BIT MORE TRAFFIC. VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME DURING THE DAY TO HAVE ACCESS, THOUGH TO A BUSINESS THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC OR CAR TRAFFIC GOING IN. I'M SEEING THAT IT MIGHT ACTUALLY PROVIDE SOME

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PROTECTION. AS OPPOSED. TO HARMFUL. JUST WANT TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT. UM SO YOU HAVE MULTIPLE THINGS THERE, RIGHT WHEN YOU HAVE CONGESTION, AND WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO OUR NEIGHBORS AND OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE OPERATING SIGNALS THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR. CLOSE PROXIMITY THEY SEE AND. IN THEIR OPERATIONS. PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THE CONGESTION AND SO THEY WILL. BLOCK THE INTERSECTION SOMETIMES NOT WAITING FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, AT THE SIGNAL THE THEY DON'T WANT TO WAIT AGAIN BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE WAITED AT A PREVIOUS SIGNAL . NOW THEY'RE WAITING AT THIS SIGNAL. THEY'RE TRYING TO GET TO 75 OR WHATEVER THE DESTINATION IS AND SO THEY MAY. YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE ONE OR TWO VEHICLES STARTING TO ENCROACH ON THE INTERSECTION ITSELF BECAUSE THEY RAN THE RED LIGHT. YOU ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AS YOU MENTIONED THAT LEFT TURN. UM GOING INTO. I'M ASSUMING THE RACETRACK BUT RIGHT NOW IT COMES ON, YOU KNOW, RIGHT TO TURN LEFT TO GO NORTH. WE COULD HAVE THAT LEFT TURN TO GO SOUTH ALSO BACKING UP BECAUSE THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A LOT OF TIME. IT WILL BE A PROTECTED LEFT TURN TO GO INTO THE, UM THE SPROUTS. I MEAN, WITH THE CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THE SIGNALS THERE'S JUST NOT AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME TO PROVIDE ALL THOSE MINUTES MOVEMENTS AND SO WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO ACCOMMODATE RIGHT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT, AS WHEN IT GROWS AND CONSULTANTS ON TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWED THAT IN 10 YEARS IF WE STILL HAVE THE CONTINUED GROWTH WE'RE ANTICIPATING YOU COULD ACTUALLY BACK UP THE TRAFFIC FROM THAT SIGNAL ALL THE WAY TO 75 444 400 FT COULD BE BACKED UP. UM YOU KNOW, AND SO AS YOU'RE TRYING TO MOVE THOSE OTHER VEHICLES FROM EITHER SOUTHBOUND OR NORTH BONG OR WESTBOUND THEY'RE HITTING THE BACK OF THAT VEHICLE. Q THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR THAT TO IMPEDE OPERATIONS NOW WITH THE U. S 75 INTERCHANGE. WE SEE IT AT SOME LEVEL ON US 3 80 FROM THAT SIGNAL THAT'S WEST OF THERE. AT TOWN CROSSING, WE SOMETIMES SEE TRAFFIC BACK ALMOST ALL THE WAY TO US 75 RIGHT AND IF THERE'S AN INCIDENT ON THAT ROADWAY NOW REALLY STARTS TO IMPEDE OPERATIONS THAT THE U. S. 75. THAT'S JUST OUR OPINION, BUT WE WILL DO THE BEST TO MAKE IT WORK IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THE COUNCIL, BUT SIGNAL IN GARY WILL THIS UM WELL SPROUTS OR WHEREVER THE TENANT IS ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY? WILL THEY HAVE INGRESS EGRESS FROM THE SOUTHBOUND ACCESS ROAD? IN OTHER WORDS, IF I'M COMING TO SPROUTS FROM THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, COULD I NOT TURN LEFT TO GO SOUTH ON THE ACCESS ROAD AND THEN MAKE A RIGHT TO GO INTO THIS PROPERTY? THEY WILL HAVE ONE DRIVEWAY FROM US 35 SOUTH OF THE FRONT ROAD SOUTH OF VIRGINIA INTO THEIR SITE. OKAY, I'M GONNA MAKE A COUPLE OF REMARKS ON THE ALTERNATIVE BECAUSE THE ALTERNATIVE WHAT MOST OF US DO IS WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. WE PLUG IN THE ADDRESS OF OUR DESTINATION INTO OUR PHONE, AND THEN WE GO THE WAY IT'S GOING TO GO. WHAT I THINK IT'S GOING TO TELL FOLKS TO DO IS TO TAKE A RIGHT OUT OF THAT INGRESS EGRESS. I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT MAKE A RIGHT ON ROCK HILL AND TAKE ROCKHILL DOWN TO JORDAN'S TAKE JORDAN'S TAKE A RIGHT TO GO BACK NORTH AND THEN MAKE A LEFT ON VIRGINIA. THAT'S ASSUMING YOU'RE GOING AS FAR AS JORDAN'S MAY BAIL OFF SOONER, BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE IS WE'RE ADDING TO THE CONGESTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT AND I KNOW PEOPLE CAN DO THAT, ANYWAY , BUT THE LIGHT MIGHT GIVE THEM SOME RELIEF FROM THAT, UM. I APPRECIATE YOUR POSITION. I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE STAND YOUR DOING, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE JOB OF THIS COUNCIL TO MAKE THESE HARD DECISIONS, BUT YOU KNOW, I GO TO THE INTERSECTION WE ALL DO OF GEORGE BUSH. PRESTON. ALLIANCE AND PLANO PARKWAY. GIVE THEM A MOMENT KIND OF INTERNALIZE THAT YOU KNOW? THAT'S ROUGH MAN. WITH THAT LIGHT THERE AN ALLIANCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO AND WHAT HAPPENED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. WELL ON THE IS YOU LOOK AT ALLIANCE THERE ON THE UM, ON THE WEST SIDE OF PRESTON THERE USED TO BE THE LEXUS DEALERSHIP PARK PLACE, ALEXIS. THEY LEFT AND WENT TO THE TOLLWAY. IT'S NOW UH, VERY DENSE, MULTI LEVEL MULTI FAMILY THING THAT WENT THERE. WOW WITH ALL THOSE LIGHTS? YEAH THEY STILL WENT THERE. AND WHEN PLANO WENT TO BUILD NEW WOULD BAYLOR WENT TO BUILD NEW HEART HOSPITAL WHERE THEY GO THAT INTERSECTION? I'M NOT SAYING IT MAKES A HELL OF A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. BUT I'M SAYING THAT'S WHAT IT DID. AND SOMEHOW WE MANAGED IN THAT AREA. SO UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING DOCTOR FELT HAS SAID ABOUT HAVING A BITE AT THE APPLE TO REDEVELOP THIS INTERSECTION. YOU KNOW, THIS INTERSECTION HAS AESTHETIC CHALLENGES. AND, UM CANDIDLY THE THOUGHT OF PUTTING IN DOING WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO HAVE SOMETHING TO CALIBER OF A SPROUTS. AS OPPOSED TO WHAT I AM CONCERNED. THE ALTERNATIVE IS GOING TO BE IS JUST VERY ATTEMPTING ON THAT SO AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOUR POSITION, BUT MADE. IT'S A TOUGH ONE. YEAH. IN FAIRNESS. THAT'S SMART DRIVEWAY TO MY OFFICE AND. FOR 13 YEARS I

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LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND IT. PRIOR TO EVEN BUYING THAT OFFICE. I GO THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION EVERY DAY. AND LOTS OF TIMES. NOT AS MANY AS I WOULD PREFER WHEN I'M FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO LEAVE MY OFFICE AT FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON. I HAVE NEVER HAD A SINGLE TIME THAT I HAD WEIGHT IN MY PARKING LOT TO GET OUT ONTO VIRGINIA PARKWAY BECAUSE YOU'RE KIND OF UNDERESTIMATING THE KINDNESS OF THE PEOPLE OF MCKINNEY BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE WHO'S STARTS TO LET ME OUT, AND SOMETIMES IT'S GONE ACROSS THREE LANES SO I CAN MAKE A U TURN AT THAT INTERSECTION. AND I SIT THERE AT THAT INTERSECTION MUCH LONGER THAN I DO, TRYING TO MAKE THE U TURN. AND I DO GETTING OUT OF MY OFFICE. THE OTHER THING IS BACK WHEN THE HOSPITAL WAS THERE. THERE WOULD BE MOTORISTS GOING EAST ON VIRGINIA, WHO WOULD STOP OUT OF KINDNESS TO LET PEOPLE OUT OF THE HOSPITAL PARKING LOT. AND CREATED AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CONDITION TRYING TO TURN LEFT IN THE WESTBOUND SIDE AND SO INADVERTENTLY TRYING TO BE NICE TO OTHER DRIVERS. THEY'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING THEM AT GREATER DANGER, AND THE SIGNAL WOULD TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THAT. AND. I CAN'T JUST SIT BACK AND SAY THAT I'VE SAT THERE AND WATCHED THIS INTERSECTION NOW FOR 17 YEARS EVERY DAY. UH, AND SAY THAT IT'S A BAD IDEA. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA, AND I THINK IT WILL BRING SEVERAL IMPROVEMENTS. I THINK RAINY IS CORRECT. IT MAY ADD FIVE MORE CARS ALONG THAT LINE, BUT IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE FIVE MORE GOOD PEOPLE FROM MCKINNEY WILLING TO STILL GIVE ME A BREAK TO GET OUT OF MY OFFICE. UH HUH. AND TO, UM COUNCILMAN CLAUDIA IS COMMENTS. THIS IS SOUTHWEST PARK RIGHT THERE, AND THAT WOULD, UH , NECESSARILY PUT A LOT OF EXTRA TRAFFIC IF THEY'RE GOING DOWN THE SERVICE ROAD AND TURN RIGHT ON ROCKHILL. THEY'RE EITHER GOING TO COME ACROSS SOUTHWEST PARK HAS BEAUTIFUL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S WHERE I LIVED FOR 13 YEARS OR THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO DOGLEG, WHICH IS ANOTHER RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY THAT DOESN'T NEED THE INCREASED TRAFFIC AND SO I WOULD CERTAINLY BE IN FAVOR OF IT FOR THOSE REASONS AND FOR PECULIAR KNOWLEDGE THAT I SEEM TO POSSESS THAT NO ONE ELSE IN THIS ROOM HAD SOME THANK YOU. I DO APPRECIATE STAFFS CONCERN FOR THAT INTERSECTION. I THINK IT'S WELL REASONED AND VERY SOUND. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? I JUST KIND OF CHARMING. UM PERIOD.

Y'ALL DO A WONDERFUL JOB OF WHAT YOU DO, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE REASONING BEHIND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. UNFORTUNATELY COMES TO US IN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT LOSE A TENANT THAT WE WANTED THAT LOCATION. UM THAT INCREASE THE PROPERTY VALUE. UM OF THAT CORNER. UM I THINK IT'SO CAUSE A HUGE PROBLEM. WORK IT. YOU KNOW WHERE THEY TURN AND I AGREE WITH DERAY THAT IT'S KIND OF A SAFETY ISSUE THAT IT MIGHT BE MORE IT WILL BE SAFE FOR HAVING THAT LIGHT THERE. UM, THAN IT IS NOW. UM. SO FOR THAT REASON FOR IT. I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR IT, BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE THERE ARE CONSTRAINTS. WE HAVE A LONG THE 75 CORRIDOR BECAUSE OF TIMING OF DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF JEANS, CREEK OR WHATEVER ELSE AND. AT 3 80. WE HAVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.

THAT'S MEETS THE 1200 FT. BUT THE DEVELOPMENTS WEREN'T BUILT FOR THAT. AND WE HAVE A WE HAVE CAUSED A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THAT. ELDORADO WHERE WELL UNDER 1200 FT TO CRAIG. DR. I THINK WE'RE AT ABOUT 800 FT. THERE. AND I GUESS I UNDERSTAND THAT THE ISSUE OF THIS. THIS CORNER IS GOING TO BE AN UGLY CORNER FOR A LONG TIME IF WE DON'T MAKE SOME ACCOMMODATION TO, UM YOU KNOW THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE THERE IN THE DEPTHS THEY HAVE AND WHAT'S NECESSARY TO BRING

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ABOUT NEW DEVELOPMENT. AND I THINK THAT THAT EXISTS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY TO BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST NOT NOT BUILT FOR THE WAY PEOPLE DEVELOP TODAY AND SO, UH, I'VE TRIED TO PICTURE IN MY HEAD EVERY ROUTE THAT THAT I COULD TAKE ON THIS AND THE PRESENTATION. I LOOKED AT THE PRESENTATION BEFORE THE VIDEO. AND I GUESS YOU KNOW WHAT? I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF CONCERN WITH PEOPLE COMING. OUT OF RACE TRACK. TO FILL IN ON THE PROGRESSION. GOING EAST I DON'T BE WAS WHAT PATRICK SAID. THE PEOPLE COMING WEST LIKE I WOULD COME FROM DOWNTOWN. I DON'T THINK WILL PILE UP IN THE INGRESS EGRESS RIGHT THERE. I THINK THEY WOULD TAKE THE PROTECTED I LEFT EARLY. UM AND. YOU KNOW, I GUESS I'M WATCHING THIS VIDEO. I UNDERSTAND. THAT THE RIGHT HAND LANE IS THE ONE THAT'S CONCERNED. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WOULD HAVE AN EASY RIGHT AND TURN ONTO 75. AND WOULD CREATE A GAP THAT COULD BE FILLED. IF A LIGHT DIDN'T STOP SOMEBODY BEHIND HIM. BUT I I'M SITTING HERE WATCHING THAT LEFT HAND LANE AND THIS LIGHT ISN'T GONNA DO ANYTHING WITH THAT LEFT HAND LINE. I MEAN, LIKE WHAT? WHAT WAS SAID IT MAY ADD ANOTHER , YOU KNOW, 60 FT TO THEIR THEIR WEIGHT. BUT IF IT'S TIME TO WRITE, AND I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION, BECAUSE I LOOKED THROUGH YOU KNOW THOSE REPORTS IF YOU GET THE TIMING, RIGHT, THEORETICALLY. IT SHOULDN'T ADD ANY MORE TO THAT. IT'S GOING TO ADD IT TO THE RIGHT HAND LANE BECAUSE YOU LOSE THE ABILITY TO MOVE FORWARD AS SOMEONE VACATES . BUT IF YOUR IF YOUR LIGHTS ARE TIMED AT 75 AT THE CENTER SECTION, YOUR LEFT HAND TURNS NOT GOING TO BE AFFECTED. AND THAT SEEMS TO BE THE LONGER ROAD HERE OR THE LONGER DISTANCE HERE , AND I GUESS CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE IDEA OF TIMING AND THE I GUESS THE TECHNOLOGY THAT MAY ALLOW US TO PREVENT SOME OF THE CONCERNS. YEAH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK I KIND OF MENTIONED IT. YOU KNOW, IF IT'S THE WILL THE COUNCIL TO PUT IT, WE'RE GONNA DO OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE WE DO THE OPERATIONS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE IN REDUCED THE INCONVENIENCE TO THE RESIDENTS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

THE WAY THAT WE DO OUR TRAFFIC SIGNAL. COORDINATION IS WHAT WE CALL TIME BASED COORDINATION. SO EACH TRAFFIC SIGNAL HAS A CONTROLLER, AND IT REPORTS BACK TO WHAT WE CALL THE MASTER CENTRAL SERVER BACK HERE AT OUR PUBLIC WORKS YARD, AND SO WE CONTROL EVERY DAY WE SAY, HEY, IT IS 12 O'CLOCK AT THIS TIME, SO WE KNOW ALL THE CLOCKS INSIDE EACH CONTROLLER ARE OPERATING THE SAME, OKAY? AND THEN WE SAY THIS SIGNAL, AND THIS SIGNAL HAS A RELATIVE SPACING. AND YOU, YOU, YOU PROGRAM IT. SO YOU GET ENOUGH GREEN TIME TO GET THESE PEOPLE THROUGH THIS INTERSECTION , RIGHT? AND YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T SHOW THE WHOLE PRESENTATION ALLUDED TO IT. IT'S JUST WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE CUES, THEY START TO SPILL BACK RIGHT NOW. WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT RANDY LEE IS A VERY MINOR STREET. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC COMING AT IT. UM YOU COULD HAVE THESE VEHICLE CUES THAT NOW STOP WITH THAT SIGNAL. UM IN THE FUTURE, AND YOU MEAN YOU SEE HOW FAR IT'S GETTING BACK? NOW? WE ADD THAT 1600 FT. NOW YOU MAYBE EVEN ENCROACHING AT RANDY LEE. YOU KNOW AGAIN, IT'S JUST A SMALLER PERIOD OF TIME. NOW THAT STAFF CONCERN THAT WILL GROW LONGER, BUT WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO UTILIZE THE BEST METHODS OF TECHNOLOGY POSSIBLE TO THE TITLE SIGNALS A SUFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE. WOULD YOU AGREE THAT THAT LEFT HAND TURN WE'RE NOT GONNA DO A WHOLE LOT OF DAMAGE TO THAT TO THE LEFT HAND TURN LENGTH. IT'S THE RIGHT HAND TURN LINK, BUT WE'RE MAKING A SACRIFICE. THAT'S THE IMMEDIATE IMPACT, RIGHT? YOU. YOU YOU HAVE THAT FREE RIGHT TO GO ONTO SOUTHBOUND HIGHWAY FIVE. AND IF THERE IS A GAP, YOU START SEEING ALL THAT TRAFFIC MOVE OUT RIGHT, SO THOSE PEOPLE ARE IMPEDED. I THINK WHAT YOU START TO SEE WITH THE LEFT HAND. TURNER'S IS THE FRUSTRATION. I HAD TO WAIT A COUPLE OF LIGHTS. AND NOW MAYBE I START TO RUN A RED LIGHT OR MAKE A MAYBE A NOT AS GOOD DECISION. I GET THAT AND SO, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE GOING TO BE CONTINUE TO BE IMPACTED. AND NOW AGAIN, THIS IS ALL FOCUSED BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IMPEDING WESTBOUND TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW. BUT THAT SIGNAL 400 FT. NOW WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL START IMPACTING WESTBOUND TRAFFIC. I DON'T THINK IT HAPPENS IMMEDIATELY. I DON'T THINK THAT YOU KNOW, AND I THE YOU KNOW THE CONSULTANT THAT DID THE WORK DID A GOOD JOB. YOU KNOW, THEY GAVE US THE DATA TO EVALUATE IT. AND SO WHEN WE START TO LOOK OUT AT 10 YEARS FROM NOW WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO START TO ACTUALLY START QUEUING UP. THAT FOR 400 FT, AND SO DOES IT EVER ACTUALLY MATERIALIZED? MAYBE MAYBE NOT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE THINK GOOD PRACTICES NOT TO PUT IT IN. BUT ULTIMATELY THE DECISION FOR YOU GUYS ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION ON THAT. YOUR TIMING WOULD ALSO IMPACT THAT. COMING WESTBOUND.

UM YEAH, THAT WOULD THEORETICALLY TRYING TO PREVENT ANYTHING BACKING UP. SO YOU'RE

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HERE YOU'RE INFILL WOULD COME FROM SOUTHBOUND 75 TURNING RIGHT UNDER FOR VIRGINIA THAT MAY START TO BACK UP IN THERE WELL VERSUS THOSE THAT ARE DRIVING FROM UM, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY UNDER THE UNDER THE BECAUSE THAT THAT TIMING IS GOING TO STILL MATCH UP RIGHT? IT'S STILL GOING TO MATCH UP RIGHT. FOR THE MOST PART STRAGGLERS. WE HAVE THOSE THOSE INCIDENTS. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THAT IS THE GOAL OF THE SIGNALS RIGHT. AND IF WE START TO HAVE SO MUCH TRAFFIC VOLUME THAT WE CAN'T SERVICE EVERYBODY IN THOSE MOVEMENTS, WE START TO DECREASE THE GREEN TIME AT THOSE OTHER MOVEMENTS TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING. THAT'S THE MEETING OF THE SIGNAL. YEAH BUT BUT I GUESS THAT THAT THAT TRAFFIC THAT YOU'RE THAT DOESN'T GET ACCOMMODATED BY THE TIME IT'S SOUTHBOUND ON 75. THAT WOULD FILL IN MAJORITY OF IT.

YEAH THAT 400 FT. AND SO, UM WHAT THE STUDY SHOWS IT TALKS ABOUT Q LINKS, RIGHT? UM, AND RIGHT NOW, THERE'S PRETTY PRETTY GOOD AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC COMING SOUTHBOUND ON US 35 FRONT SOUTHLAND FRONTAGE ROAD. THAT SOMETIMES THE VEHICLES CAN'T GET TO THAT RIGHT TURN LANE TO MAKE THAT FREE RIGHT ON THE SOUTHBOUND MOVEMENT RIGHT IS THAT Q LINK CONTINUES TO GET BIGGER AND BIGGER NOW, WHEN THAT GREEN LIGHT HAPPENS, THEY'RE TURNING AND FILLING UP THAT 400 FT WHEN THAT WHEN YOU GET THE GREEN BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T MAKE THE FREE RIGHT? AND NOW THE CAR SITTING THERE, AND AS WE START TO MOVE THE WESTBOUND TRAFFIC OR THE NORTH BOUND TRAFFIC, WHATEVER THE SEQUENCES. IT HAS POTENTIAL HIT THAT BACK OF THAT QUEUE. HOW LIKELY IS THAT? IT'S TOUGH TO PREDICT THAT'S ALSO IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT? YEAH I SEE THAT. I MEAN AGAIN IF I'M RANKING THE IMPACT OF TRAFFIC RIGHT HAND TURNED SOUTH ON 75. BIGGEST I THINK, EVENTUALLY YOU'RE RIGHT, SOUTHBOUND. UM 75 , TURNING WEST ONTO VIRGINIA. MAY CAUSE AN ISSUE ALSO INFLUENCE IMPACTED BY THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE A SOUTHBOUND EXIT ON WHITE AND SO PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE EXITED EARLIER MAYBE COMING INTO THAT INTERSECTION. UM, BUT I GUESS. I WOULD AGREE WITH WHAT CHARLIE'S SAYING. LIKE. IN TERMS OF THE INCONVENIENCE THAT WERE POTENTIALLY CAUSING AND IN THE CONVENIENCE THAT WERE POTENTIALLY GETTING AND NOT EVEN TO GET INTO. YOU KNOW THE DYNAMICS OF EAST OF 75, MCKENNEY AND ALL THE CONSTRAINTS WE HAVE , ESPECIALLY WITH ACCESS TO GROCERY. AND NOT THAT THIS IS IN THE CONVERSATION WITH THE EAST OF HIGHWAY FIVE, BUT WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE GROCERY AT 75 3 80. WE'VE GOT GOOD DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE GROCERY AT 75 OLDER ROD O AND WE'VE LOST IT AT THIS INTERSECTION. I WOULD SAY THAT'S LARGELY BECAUSE OF DEVELOPMENT CONSTRAINTS. AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT BACK UNLESS WE MAKE SOME ACCOMMODATION TO THAT. AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S A IT'S A IF THAT IS WHAT AND AGAIN I KNOW WE'RE NOT TALKING LAND USE AND ALL THOSE THINGS. BUT IF THAT BECAUSE WHAT WE CAN ENABLE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BEND A LITTLE BIT TO ENABLE THAT ON THIS SIDE, BUT I THINK ALSO ON THE WEB ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD WHEN THOSE SITES START LOOKING AT POTENTIAL REUSE SO THIS CAMERA OUT THERE ALL THE TIME. I WANNA CAMERA OUT THERE ALL THE TIME ALL THE TIME. START WAVING. YEAH IT'S WHAT TO MAKE A COMMENT, UM, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES STAFF CAN, UH, COMMENTS CAN BE MADE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, FRUSTRATION CAN BE FELT BASED ON WHATEVER MAYBE OUTCOMES OUT IN THE MARKET, BUT STAFFS. WHAT WE EXPECT FROM YOU IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE . YOU HAVE A DESIGN MANUAL THAT A COUNCIL APPROVED AND PUT IN PLACE THESE METRICS TO LOOK AT AND YOUR JOB, AT LEAST THE WAY I PERCEIVE IT IS TO NOT PICK WINNERS OR LOSERS, BUT TO BUT TO, UM, MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON THE GUIDELINES. IN THIS CASE, THE ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED, AND THAT'S THAT'S YOUR THAT'S YOUR ROLE, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD DO. AND I APPRECIATE THAT, AND WHEN THERE ARE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES, THE PROCESS PLAYS OUT JUST LIKE IT IS TONIGHT. WHERE THEN IT GETS APPEALED. OR IN THIS CASE. IT'S JUST A PLAQUE CONSIDERATION. BUT HAD IT JUST BEEN SOMETHING THAT THAT WAS DONE OUT OF STAFF LEVEL? RIGHTFULLY BECAUSE OF FOLLOWING METRICS AND GUIDELINES OR CODES OR ZONING. EVERYONE HAS THE ABILITY TO APPEAL THAT AND THEY WOULD COME HERE AND THEN WE WOULD MAKE THAT DECISION, SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. REMEMBER THAT AT THE MOMENT WE START EXPECTING SOMETHING DIFFERENT. WHERE WHERE? YOU, UH, NOT FOLLOWING GUIDELINES AND ADAPTED POLICIES ADOPTED POLICIES BY COUNSEL AND WHATNOT. I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE POTENTIAL FOR CONFLICT, AND SO I THINK UM I APPRECIATE STAFF DOING DOING THE JOB THE WAY THAT THEY SHOULD BE

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DONE IN AND AGAIN. PROCESS PLAYS OUT, AND NOW THAT IT'S HERE, SO AMERICA HAVING YOU SAID THAT I WANT TO SAY MY TRUST LEVEL IS NOT IN THE STAFF. MY TRUST LEVEL IS IN Y'ALL HAVING TO FOLLOW THOSE, AS HE SAID, JUST KIND OF THOSE REGULATIONS AND WITHOUT BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ROOM.

JUST FOLLOWING IT. AND SO I APOLOGIZE IF I IF I FOUND A LITTLE HARSH, BUT BECAUSE I LIKE STAFF REALLY DO BUT BUT THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT I THINK IT'S BEST LEFT UP TO COUNSEL. AND SO I CAN APPRECIATE THAT. UM IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS TO THE APPLICANT WE CAN I THINK THAT IT'S THINK THERE HAS BEEN SUFFICIENT. I HAVE ONE QUESTION QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

ENTERTAIN THE APPLICANT COME UP. YES SO WE DID HAVE CARDS. I KNOW THAT THIS WAS PERCEIVED. I THINK TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. IT IS NOT SO THESE COMMENTS WERE NOT MADE EARLIER, SO ON A BREAK.

POLICY HERE AND HAVE THE APPLICANTS SPEAK AGAINST NOT A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. BUT SO, SCOTT, LET'S I THINK EVERYTHING HAS BEEN COVERED PRETTY WELL. I THINK THERE'S A SPECIFIC QUESTION THAT PATRICK EXCUSE ME CHECK COUNSELING CLEARLY HAS FOR YOU. MY SPECIFIC QUESTION IS THIS YOU CAN APPRECIATE FROM SITTING HERE HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS , YOU KNOW, MAYBE EMOTIONALLY FOR US AND WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH TO GET THIS LIGHT PUT IN FOR THAT. I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR ALL OF COUNCIL SPEAK FOR MYSELF. I WOULDN'T VOTE FOR THIS IF IT WEREN'T FOR A HIGH END RETAILER LIKE SPROUTS COMING HERE IF THIS WERE TO BE SOMETHING LIKE IT ALL CHANGED PLACE IN A CAR WASH. I WOULDN'T VOTE TO GIVE THIS. SO MY QUESTION IS, IS, UM I WOULD IF IT CAN BE DONE THIS WAY. I'D LIKE FOR THIS LIGHT TO BE CONTINGENT ON THIS. DEVELOPMENT BEING THE SPROUTS AND IF IT'S NOT THE. I'M NOT INTERESTED, REALLY IN PUTTING THE LIGHT IN THERE, AT LEAST NOT BEFORE I HAVE ANOTHER SWING AT IT TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IT IS. NOW LOOK, THE 100% THE LIGHTS ONLY GOING INTO SPROUTS GOES IN SPROUTS DOESN'T MOVE FORWARD AND ONE RECORD YORK AND EVEN IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE, ANOTHER PROCEDURE WE WANT TO GO THROUGH.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO DO A CAR WASH AND OIL CHANGED GUY. IT'S LITERALLY FOR SPROUTS. SO THEY CAN TAKE ALL THE TRAFFIC COMING OUT OF THERE AND HEAD BACK WESTBOUND. OH, VIRGINIA.

THANK YOU. UM YOU GOT A QUICK QUESTION ON YOU NEVER GIVE YOUR NAME AND WOODRUFF 27 7 CARATS TRAIL. MCKINNEY, TEXAS. IT'S GOT THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT , UM, LIGHTS AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE LIGHTS ARE ARE SYNC UP AND THAT THERE IS A NUMBER OF WAYS TO DO THAT. I THINK THERE'S ONLY ONE THAT'S REQUIRED. BUT THERE IS THE ABILITY TO HAVE REDUNDANCY WITH WITH HARDWIRE IN ADDITION TO THE RADIO, AND I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE SAID THAT YOU WILL DO THAT. MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THOSE TWO LIGHTS. IF THIS IS APPROVED ABSOLUTELY HORRENDOUS THAT WE AGREE REDUNDANCY TO TIE BACK INTO THAT DIAMOND INTERCHANGE IS VERY IMPORTANT.

WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT. JENNIFER. IT SEEMED LIKE YOU WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT. I THINK I KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE. AND THANKS, SCOTT WAS IT WAS IN RESPONSE TO COUNCIL, INCLUDING HIS COMMENT AS A PLAT ITEM. WE CANNOT CONTINGENT THE VARIANCE REQUEST OR APPROVAL BASED ON A USER USER. SO THE END OF THE DAY IT IS YOUR COMFORT LEVEL WITH THE APPLICANTS, WORD ON WHAT IS INTENDED TO BE TO BE HERE. BUT ONCE THAT PLAN IS APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL, IT IS A STANDING APPROVAL. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. THANK YOU FOR CLEARING IT UP. I REALLY JUST WANTED TO TALK TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT THAT. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IN THIS BUSINESS WE HAVE TO TRUST PEOPLE AND THIS ONE. THERE'S TIMES. I THINK WE KNOW WHERE TO FIND HIM BECAUSE THE CITY DOESN'T PAY FOR THE LIGHT, RIGHT. THE CONTRACT. YEAH. ALRIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION COMMOTION THAT WERE APPROVED THE ITEM AS PRESENTED I'LL SECOND HOLD ON. WAIT JENNIFER. I JUST WANT TO HELP TO MAKE SURE WE CLARIFY THAT MOTION JUST BECAUSE IT IS A PLAT ITEM. SO THERE ARE OTHER CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT STAFF WOULD LIKE TO STILL BE, UM, CONDITIONED WITHOUT APPROVAL. THESE ARE CLEAN UP ITEMS LIKE LABELING AND EASEMENT . THINGS OF THAT NATURE. NON NON SUBSTANTIVE ITEMS TO THE PLANTS SO IF IT IS THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE TO APPROVE THE PLAT, IT WOULD BE WITH THE CONDITIONS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND A VARIANCE TO THE APPLICATION OF THE ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL FOR THAT SIGNAL SPACING. BURN JUST TO MEET FAIR IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THE BALANCE OF THAT OBJECTION. EQUAL TIME. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. UH I'LL AMEND MY MOTION TO INCLUDE ALL CONDITIONS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF IN ADDITION TO THE LINE ISSUE. I'LL SECOND. AND TO BE CLEAR THAT MOTION WAS

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WITH THE VARIANTS OF THE LIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE POST. THANK YOU, JENNIFER. REGULAR

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit for Automobile Dealership Sales (Hendrick’s Auto Dealership), Located at 2601 North Central Expressway, and Accompanying Ordinance]

AGENDA. PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. 220012 S U P THREE CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AND ACT ON SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AUTOMOTIVE AUTOMOBILE DEALERSHIP SALES. HENDRIX AUTO DEALERSHIP LOCATED 26. OH, ONE NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, JENNIFER. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. THIS ITEM IS JUST NORTH ON 75. FROM WHERE WE WERE JUST SPEAKING. IT IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FORWARD CAR DEALERSHIP SALES. HENDRICKS AUTO DEALERSHIP GROUP IS INTENDING TO DEVELOP A BMW DEALERSHIP ON THE CORNER OF WILMOTH AND U S. 75. THE TRACT IS ZONED SEE PLANS CENTER, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR LEGACY ZONING DISTRICTS AND DOES REQUIRE CONSIDERATION OF AN SCP FOR APPROVAL OF THE CAR DEALERSHIP ON THE SITE THE SITE ITSELF WOULD ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF ABOUT 14 ACRES FOR THAT CAR DEALERSHIP. AND THE REMAINING ACREAGE OF THAT ZONING SEAPLANE CENTER, WHICH IS ABOUT 53 ACRES THERE AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER WOULD REMAIN UNDEVELOPED AND AVAILABLE FOR COMMERCIAL USES WHEN STAFF CONSIDERED THE REQUEST FOR THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. WE DID NOTE THE CRITERIA OUTLINED IN THE CITY ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THINGS SUCH AS ACCESSIBILITY AND GROSS EGRESS AND THEN COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS. IN THAT REVIEW. WE DID FIND THAT IT WAS COMPATIBLE AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST. AND ZONING COMMISSION ALSO CONSIDERED THE ITEM AND IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND A 70 VOTE. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, AND I KNOW THE APPLICANTS HERE AS WELL. QUESTIONS QUESTIONED UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING JENNIFER, CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT COULD BE BUILT HERE WITHOUT COUNSEL HAVING ANY KIND OF SAY IN IT? SURE UM, GIVE ME JUST ONE SECOND TO PULL IT. MY ZONING ORDINANCE. SO THERE'S EARNING IS C PLAN CENTER, WHICH IS AGAIN A LEGACY ZONING DISTRICT, BUT IT IS THE EQUIVALENT OF THE C THREE SO HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ZONING, SO IT'S GOING TO ALLOW FOR A WIDE RANGE OF COMMERCIAL USES, SUCH AS DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS. IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW FOR A NUMBER OF COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE USES. LET'S SEE HERE.

WOULD ALLOW ANY KIND OF WAREHOUSE OR MANUFACTURING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR THAT WITHOUT CONSIDERATION OF AN S U P AS WELL. SO ANY OF THOSE HEAVY AUTO USES SUCH AS THE WAREHOUSE, ERIN QUASI INDUSTRIAL, UM THIS TYPE OF USE A GAS STATION OR A CAR WASH. THOSE WOULD ALL STILL REQUIRE THAT SPECIFIC USE FROM IT TO BE CONSIDERED. JUICE AND HISTORY ON THE PROPERTY ZONING THAT'S IN PLACE THE PLAN CENTER ZONING. INITIALLY THAT ALLOWED FOR CAR DEALERSHIPS DIDN'T DID WE PASSED SOMETHING IN 18 4018, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY ACTUALLY OWNED THE PROPERTY BEFORE THAT, RIGHT? YES SIR. OKAY, PURCHASED IT FOR THIS SPECIFIC USE. YEAH, IT'S IMPORTANT. PIECE OF THIS, I THINK. THANK YOU, JENNIFER, THE APPLICANT HERE. NOT SEEING HIM WILL MOVE ON. JUST THINKING ABOUT YOGA, MR MAYOR. IT'S GOING TO SIDE CROW. YEAH ANYONE HERE? KNOW WHAT THAT IS? CAN YOU GET THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT HURTS. YES, PLEASE. YEAH. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. WORKS FOR YOU. THAT'S GOOD. MM. MAYOR MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL AND BARBARA ODOR 1700 RED BUD SUITE 300 IN MCKINNEY ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. HENDRIK AUTO GROUP. THIS IS FOR A BMW DEALERSHIP LOCATION. A LOT OF THE INFORMATION THAT ARE NOT A LOT, BUT A NUMBER OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK ARE COGENT TO THE DISCUSSION HERE. WHEN THE APPLICANT PURCHASED THE PROPERTY WHAT HE PURCHASED IT FOR WHAT THE ZONING WAS AT THE TIME ARE VERY RELEVANT. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, MCKINNEY HAS ALWAYS BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CALL PROPERTY RIDES. EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW THIS. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS WHERE THE WHERE YOU DO HAVE SOME DISCRETION. BUT THIS IS NOT A ZONING CASE. THIS IS A CASE IN WHICH YOU DETERMINE IS THE USE ITS PROPOSED HERE. DOES IT ADVERSELY AFFECT ADJACENT NEWS IS, WILL IT GUM UP THE TRAFFIC? IS THERE ADEQUATE? ARE THERE ADEQUATE UTILITIES BECAUSE IT SOMEHOW ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BALANCE OF THE PROPERTY? THOSE AS THE STAFF

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RECITED IN THEIR STAFF REPORT. THOSE ARE REALLY THE CONSIDERATIONS HERE, NOT WHETHER IT'S A CAR DEALERSHIP OR NOT. BUT I WANT TO GO THROUGH A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT HERE. WE HAVE MADE A CHANGE TO THE SGP SITE PLANS SINCE THE LAST TIME WE, UH SUBMITTED. AND THAT IS WE HAVE TAKEN PERCENT NEED TO LET'S SEE. THERE WE GO. SO AND I KNOW THERE'S A PLACE WHERE I CAN DRAW MEAN. OKAY OKAY, SO, UH, THE LAST TIME AROUND WHAT COLOR DO YOU WANT TO PICK A PICK AND BLUE ONE, OKAY? LAST TIME AROUND, WELL, COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT THE SITE. THIS PORTION OF THE SIDE UP HERE IS TEXT DOT RIGHT AWAY. IT IS NOT PART OF THIS PRIVATE OWNERSHIP AND IT'LL BE TEXT DOT RIGHT AWAY AS FAR AS I KNOW FOREVER, SO THE CHANCES OF PUTTING A SERVICE STATION FOR EXAMPLE ON THE CORNER PROBABLY DON'T EXIST BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THAT LEAVE OUT THERE. IT'S ABOUT 130 FT. FROM WILMOT GOING SOUTH, SO IT'S A SIGNIFICANT LEAVE OUT.

IN OUR ORIGINAL PLAN WE HAD IN THIS AREA HERE. WE HAD TWO ADDITIONAL ROWS OF DISPLAYED PARKING AND WE EXTENDED THIS LINE OVER HERE. ALSO WE HAVE COME IN BECAUSE WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE CONCERN ABOUT THE DISPLAY PARKING OUT FRONT AND WE'VE REMOVED THOSE FROM DISCIPLINED PARKING. THAT WAS THAT NOW WILL BE A LANDSCAPED AREA WILL BE PUT SOME TREES SOME SHRUBS IN THERE. THERE ARE FOUR LITTLE DESPITE THIS PLAY PADS THAT ARE LIKE ALL KILLED, LIKE ALL CAR DEALERSHIPS AS WHERE THEY'RE PARKING INDIVIDUAL CORA JUST AS DISPLAY. SO WE BASICALLY HAVE. TWO WE HAVE A FIRE LINE THAT GOES IN. WE'VE GOT CUSTOMER PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT FIRE LINE, AND THEN WE'VE GOT 2.5. ROWS OF DISPLAY PARKING ON THE FRONT BALANCE OF THE DISPLAY. BARKING IS ON THE SIDE AND ON BOTH SIDES, SO I THINK WE'VE REDUCED THE PARKING THE DISPLAY PARKING THE 41. PARKING UNITS, WHICH I THINK IS SIGNIFICANT. ANOTHER THING ABOUT THE SITE THIS AND YOU'VE ALL DRIVEN BY THE 50 ACRES. ESSENTIALLY 50 ACRES IS OUT.

THAT'S OUT THERE. IT'S FLAT AS A PANCAKE. THE SANITARY SEWER TO THIS PARTICULAR TRACKED. THE MAN HOLD FOR IT IS DOWN THERE AND TYLER BURKE. BY THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING WHERE THE CREEK IS SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO GRAVITY SUE OR ANYTHING ON THIS PROPERTY , YOU'RE GOING TO GRAVITY SEWAGE TO THAT SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THIS PROPERTY ON TAYLOR BURKE. THE LAND IS SO FLAT THAT IN ORDER TO GRAVITY SEWER, THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY THE BUILDING WAS AND WE ASKED HIM PLACE. THE BUILDING IS CLOSE TO 75 AS YOU CAN GET IT IN ORDER TO GET THE BUILDING THIS CLOSE TO 75.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD A THREE FT PAD, RAISED THE BUILDING THREE FT AND GET A VARIANCE FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. FOR THE FLOW LINE OF THE SANITARY SEWER IN ORDER TO GET IT TO FLOW. NOW I THINK THAT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS FINE WITH THE VARIANTS. IT'S NOT FLAT. BUT IT CERTAINLY IS NOT THE OPTIMUM. SO THIS IS THERE IS A STRATEGIC REASON WHY THAT BUILDING IS PLACED WHERE IT IS THE OPTIONS. IF YOU MOVE IT FURTHER TO THE EAST IS WHERE WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT A LIFT STATION. WHICH NOBODY REALLY WANTS TO LIFT STATION. I DON'T THINK UM THEY UH, A COUPLE OF THE OTHER THINGS ABOUT THE SIDE , ONE OF THE ONE OF THE CRITICAL ISSUES WHEN YOU HAVE AN ACTIVE PLACE LIKE A CAR DEALERSHIP, WITH CARS COMING IN AND OUT. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ENOUGH STACK ROOM RIGHT HERE. OFFICE 75. AS THIS IS DRAWN. WE HAVE ABOUT 200. FT UH, AND IT'S ACTUALLY 300 UP TO THE UP TO THE OVERHEAD DOORS IN THE SERVICE BAY. BUT YOU NEED ABOUT THAT AMOUNT OF STACK LANE FOR CARS AND TRUCKS. REMEMBER WE HAVE TRACTOR TRAILER RIGS SEMIS THAT BRING CARS TO THESE LOCATIONS. SO YOU NEED THAT KIND OF STACKING LINE OFFICE 75 IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE A SAFE OPERATION. UM. ALSO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE HOW DO I ERASE THIS? YOU WRITE IT FOR ME, EMPRESS. THANK YOU. UH NOT ONLY DOES TEXT NOT HAVE THIS RIGHT AWAY HERE, BUT TEXT OUT ALSO HAS THIS RIGHT AWAY RIGHT IN HERE. AND SO THAT ALSO IS A IS AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON WHERE THE BUILDING IS AND WHERE THE PARKING IS, SO THEY'RE JUST A LOT OF SIDE CONSTRAINTS WITH THIS PARTICULARLY I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN

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CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT ELSE WOULD GO IN THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET BIG BOX RETAIL. I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA GET A POWER CENTER FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. ONE IS YOU HAVE ALL THAT JUST IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH AT THE INTERSECTION OF 3 80 75 ALL FOUR INTERSECTIONS. THE OTHER IS YOU'RE FOCUSED ON HAVING A POWER CENTER PARKWAY FURTHER NORTH. IF YOU PUT IF YOU TRY TO ATTRACT THE POWER CENTER HERE, YOU'RE GOING TO SIGNIFICANTLY DETRACT FROM WHAT YOU CAN HAVE DONE AT LORD HOWE. JUST LIKE THE REASON WHY YOU COULDN'T DO ONE NECESSARILY IN OTHER LOCATIONS. IS THE SEPARATION FROM WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN AT STACY. SO I CAUTION YOU IN TERMS OF THINKING BIG RETAIL WOULD GO ON THIS TRACK. I JUST DON'T THINK YOU COULD GET SOME SMALL STRIPS. YOU COULD GET THE DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANY ANY BIG RETAIL THERE.

AND IN TERMS OF OFFICE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DID TO THE EMPRESS. I'M SORRY. IN TERMS OF OFFICE, YOU KNOW, OFFICE BREEDS OFFICE. UH YOU HAVE INTENTIONALLY. UH, SELECTED THE 1 21 CORRIDOR AS YOUR PRIMARY OFFICE LOCATION. UT AROUND THIS TRACK WILL NOT LEND ITSELF TO A HIGH END OFFICE PARK DEVELOPMENT. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'VE GOT RETAIL TO THE SOUTH. YOU'VE GOT A COVER IN A TRUCK REPAIR.

EXCUSE ME. TRUCK. REPAIR SHOP. I GUESS IT IS JASON, THIS PROPERTY WHEN YOU GO NORTH. YOU'VE GOT A CHURCH. YOU'VE GOT THE CITY'S VEHICLE. UH, CENTER. ACROSS THE STREET. YOU'VE GOT INDUSTRIAL WITH THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURER. SO THIS IS JUST REALLY NOT A GOOD SIGNIFICANT OFFICE LOCATION. COULD YOU DO A BUNCH OF GARDEN OFFICES IN HERE? IT MIGHT COULD, BUT GARDEN OFFICES REALLY REQUIRE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL AROUND THEM, AND YOU DON'T HAVE RESIDENTIAL AROUND THIS TRACK. SO I THINK I MEAN, IT'S BOB'S PERSONAL OPINION. PUTTING A CAR DEALERSHIP HERE MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. AND HERE'S WHY I THINK IT MAKES SENSE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL, I'VE ALARM TAX VALUE.

EMPLOYMENT IT OVER THE FIRST THREE YEARS WILL EMPLOY 90 FOLKS WITH AVERAGE SALARIES OF $69,000. THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. FOR A BUSINESS IN ANYWHERE. UM. ALSO WITH REGARD TO SALES TAX WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT CAR SALES DON'T GENERATE ANY SALES TAX FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. BUT, YOU KNOW EVERY DEALERSHIP SELLS A LOT OF PARTS, AND THEY SELL LABOR AND THOSE ARE TAXED. WE EXPECT IN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS THE CITY WILL COLLECT, NOT THE CITY WILL COLLECT, BUT THERE WILL BE GENERATED $20 MILLION IN SALES TAX. PREVIN. SO. I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT FACTOR THERE ALSO. UM FINALLY, I THINK THERE'S JUST A THERE IS A CONVENIENCE FACTOR HERE. BMWS ARE PRETTY UNIQUE VEHICLE AND NOT EVERYBODY WORKS ON BMWS. IF YOU HAVE A NEW BMW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DRIVE TO PLANO. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DRIVE TO DALLAS TO GET IT WORKED ON IF YOU PASS THIS ISSUE P THEY CAN HAVE IT WORKED ON HERE. THE ADVENT OF E V S THE ELECTRONIC VEHICLES. EVERY MANUFACTURER HAS THEIR OWN PROPRIETARY TYPE, SOFTWARE AND SETUP. SO THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT CAN WORK ON A BMW E V. BMW DEALERSHIP, SO THEY HAVE CERTIFICATIONS FOR ALL THAT, SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND. AND JUST ON A SIDE NOTE. IT WOULDN'T BE A TRUE E V DEALERSHIP IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE CHARGERS OUT FRONT AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE MOVING INTO THE ELECTRONIC VEHICLE WORLD IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG PLAYER, AND THEY WILL BE BIG IMPACTFUL HERE. SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I WOULD REQUEST YOUR. FAVORABLE APPROVAL OF THE ISSUE P AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE UPTICK IN I HAVE ONE. BOB, DO YOU KNOW? CAN YOU NAME ME ANOTHER CITY THAT HAS MORE CAR DEALERSHIPS ON A MAJOR HIGHWAY THAN MCKINNEY? PROBABLY GREAT VALUE. YOU THINK THEY HAVE MORE THAN 25% OF THEIR OF THE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE 25% OF OUR FRONTAGE ROAD ON THESE ON BOTH

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SIDES. 25% IS CAR DEALERSHIPS. YOU THINK GRAPEVINE HAS MORE THAN THAT? I HAVEN'T DONE THE MATH, MR ROGERS, BUT I CERTAINLY KNOW THAT GRAPEVINE HAS MOST EVERYTHING ON 1 21 IS LOOKING GREAT BY HIM. HIS GUARDIANSHIP. SO YOU THINK WE NEED TO ADD TO THAT? WELL I DON'T THINK WE CAN TURN BACK TIME. OKAY I THINK THE DIE WAS CAST ON WHAT 75 IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE DECADES AGO. FOR RIGHT OR FOR WRONG. THE DIE WAS CAST. THIS HAS BEEN A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN OUT THERE ZONES SINCE THE MID TWO THOUSANDS WELL BEFORE 2014 BECAUSE I THINK I DID THE ZONING LIKE 2003 OR 2004. IT'S HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP AND NOTHING'S DEVELOPED THERE. IT'S NOT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN OVERPRICED. WELL YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT COMES WHEN DEVELOPMENT COMES. I MEAN, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN WE NEED IT DEVELOPED. I'M WILLING TO WAIT. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKES TO GET THE RIGHT THINGS IN THE RIGHT PLACES? APPRECIATE THAT. I JUST DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET ANYTHING BETTER THAN WHAT YOU WORSHIP. OKAY, SO I MEAN, OKAY, MAYBE YOU CAN MARK IT UP TO THE LESSER OF EVILS. BUT I THINK THIS IS A THIS IS GOOD USE. RIGHT. MY BUT MY SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT IS NOT BASED IN WHETHER OR IT MIGHT BE. IF IT'S NOT THAT OR ANYTHING, IT IS THAT I CAN'T IMAGINE IF ANY ONE OF US UP HERE BOUGHT A PIECE OF PROPERTY TO BUILD A HOME AND WAS OWNED TO BUILD A HOME ZONE. SINGLE FAMILY WE PLANNED ON IT, ESPECIALLY WE'VE INVESTED IN OUR ALREADY MOVED THE REST OF OUR FAMILY HERE. I IN THIS CASE, THEY HAVE ANOTHER DEALERSHIP HERE. AND THEY AND PURCHASE A PIECE OF PROPERTY. EVERYTHING. I DID EVERYTHING RIGHT? AND THEN THE CITY CAME IN AND SAID, WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THAT. AND I'M GOING TO REZONE IT. NOW YOU CAN'T BUILD YOUR HOME. THERE WOULD HAVE A REAL ISSUE WITH THAT. IF THAT WAS MY PIECE OF PROPERTY. I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT IF I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY TO DEVELOP AND I WENT AND I MET WITH THE CITY, CAN I DO THIS? CAN I BUILD THIS BUSINESS HERE IN THE CITY TELLS ME YES. AND THEN, UM AND THEN AT THE WOMEN, THE COUNCIL FOR GOOD REASON. I CERTAINLY VOTED FOR IT AS WELL.

WE MAKE A CHANGE, BUT, UM I YOU KNOW THAT THAT THE CHANGE IN MY MIND WAS NOT TO PENALIZE SOMEONE THAT'S ALREADY MADE THE INVESTMENT NUMBER ONE, NOT JUST INVESTMENT IN PURCHASING THE PROPERTY FOR THAT VERY SPECIFIC USE, BUT IT WAS ALREADY A CORPORATE PARTNER HERE IN MCKINNEY WHEN THEY WERE WELCOMED BEFORE THERE WAS A REASON THAT WE HAD TO TRY TO DISCOURAGE IF THIS HAS BEEN REZONED. AND SOMEONE WAS COMING TO BUY THE PROPERTY. I WOULD BE STANDING ALONGSIDE MAYOR PRO TEM ON IT, BUT FOR ME THEY BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY. IT WAS PRESUMED TO DO WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO. THEIR CORPORATE PARTNERS. BEFORE THIS , WE CHANGE THE RULES. WE MOVED THE GOALPOST AND FOR ME, THAT'S THAT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING I CAN I THINK WOULD BE FAIR. I CERTAINLY WOULD BE. JUMPING UP AND DOWN, SCREAMING IF IT WAS ME. SO FOR THAT REASON I SUPPORTED NOT THE OTHER. NOT THE REASONS OF WHAT MIGHT BE THEIR OTHERWISE OR ANYTHING. IT'S I DON'T WANT TO MOVE THE GOALPOSTS ON SOMEONE THAT'S MADE AN INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

JUST FOR HISTORICAL CONTEXT. WHEN WAS THE PROPERTY PURCHASED? 2014 THE ZONING CHANGE TO WIN 2018. I MEAN, I THERE'S NO SECRET, BUT THE ZONING CHANGE BASICALLY BECAUSE WE BASICALLY SAID NO, WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING . AND THEN YOU CAME UP AND SAID NO, YOU OUGHT TO DO IS MORE OF AN S U P TO BASICALLY SAYING OH, YOU KNOW, LET THE LET EACH COUNCIL DECIDED IT WASN'T WASN'T THAT YOUR WORD? KIND OF LIKE, OKAY, LET'S LET IT LET LET'S LET HIM DECIDE. I THINK MY POSITION COUNCIL MEMBER WAS IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT CAR DEALERSHIPS IS THE LOOK AND FEEL OF THE CAR DEALERSHIP. AND IT'S NOT ABOUT THE USE. IT'S ABOUT THE LOOK AND FEEL. NONE IS. YOU'RE THE ONE THAT PUSHED. OH, LET'S DO THE S U P TYPE OR THE YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST VOTE ON EIGHT. ANYTIME ONE COMES UP, AND EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME THING. OH LOOK AT THE JOBS . LOOK AT THE TAXES. LOOK AT THE THING. EVERYBODY COULD SAY THAT AND WE COULD JUST FILL THAT WHOLE CORRIDOR WITH CAR DEALERSHIPS. BECAUSE LOOK AT ALL THE TAXES. LOOK AT ALL THE EMPLOYMENT LOOK AT ALL EVERYTHING. AND THE DIE HAS BEEN CAST BECAUSE ALL YOU KNOW YEARS AGO THIS IS WHAT THEY DECIDED. I DON'T CHOOSE TO CONTINUE TO PERPETUATE THE CAST. WELL I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE. YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY THIS IF YOU TAKE A LOOK UP AND DOWN 75 AND YOU LOOK AT YOUR LARGEST TAXPAYERS AND YOUR BEST EMPLOYERS WITH ABOUT TWO OR THREE EXCEPTIONS. THEY ARE GOING

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TO BE YOUR AUTOMOTIVE DEALERSHIPS. YOU'RE GOING TOO FAR OUT PAYS ANY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF EMERSON, THEY'RE GOING TOO FAR. OUTPACE ANY OFFICE BUILDING YOU'VE GOT THERE. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A COUPLE OF THE BIG BOX RETAILERS . THEY'RE GOING TOO FAR OUTPACE ALMOST ANYTHING ELSE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN TERMS OF SALES TAX REVENUE. SO IN TERMS OF BEING A GOOD CORPORATE IN A GOOD INVESTMENT IN YOUR COMMUNITY. THESE ARE THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE THE LOOK AND FEEL THAT YOU WANT, BUT THEY CERTAINLY ARE NOT A DRAG ON YOUR ECONOMY. THEY'RE VERY, VERY POSITIVE. GREAT YOU'RE GOING SOMEWHERE WITH THE TIMELINE. FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, ALL HEARD THE SAYING NOT ALL GOOD. ALL MONEY IS GOOD MONEY, AND I WOULD SAY IN THIS CASE FOR ME IT'S NOT GOOD MONEY. WE HAVE A CORRIDOR THAT IS JUST CLUSTERED WITH A NUMBER OF CAR DEALERSHIPS. WE JUST HAD AN APPROVAL OF ONE FEW MONTHS AGO. I DON'T THINK THAT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMING FURTHER NORTH. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT NOT JUST WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN NORTH MCKINNEY. BUT EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING IN ANNA MELISSA AS WELL WHERE WE'RE GETTING TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING SOUTHBOUND. UM I THINK THERE'S A BETTER USE FOR THIS PROPERTY. IT WON'T BE PROBABLY THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR, BUT IT'S COMING AND I AM OF THE SAME MINDSET OF RAINY . WE DON'T HAVE TO DEVELOP EVERY SINGLE LOT RIGHT NOW. I THINK THAT THIS LAND IS GONNA HAVE GREAT VALUE IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. BUT I DO NOT WANT TO SEE ANOTHER CAR DEALERSHIP ON 75.

JUST MY POSITION. YEAH I JUST AGAIN FOR ME CHANGING THE GAME ON SOMEBODY, SOMEONE THAT BOUGHT A PIECE OF PROPERTY PLAN. THE CITY TOLD THEM THEY COULD DO IT. THEY CARRIED IT. THEY WEATHERED.

UM YOU KNOW, THEY WEATHERED THE STORMS THAT THEY HAVE WEATHERED, UH THIS IS A HIGH END DEALERSHIP WITH HIGH END SERVICE AND HIGH END FOR THAT. SALES TAX GENERATING, UM, SERVICE DEPARTMENT. I MEAN, FOR ONE MONTH. MOVE THE GOALPOST ON AN EXISTING COMPANY. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS. WE'VE HAD OTHER DEALERSHIPS THAT OUR CORPORATE PARTNERS AND WE MADE A DECISION BASED ON THAT TO NOT DO IT HERE FOR ME WOULD BE VERY DISINGENUOUS AND WHAT WILL BE DONE? NO, BUT IT'S AN SUV THAT SAME THE. THE OUTCOME IS THAT WOULD BE THE SAME SO HAS TO MEET SERVICE. WE HAVE FOUR OR FIVE MORE DEALERSHIPS. MHM TAKEN. TO YEAH, BUT NONE OF THEM WON'T FALL IN THIS CATEGORY WHERE THEY WERE THEY WAS OWNED AT ONE TIME THEIR OWNER, AND THEN WE CHANGE THE ZONING BY PUTTING AN S U P N I MEAN, YOU'RE THAT'S A PROPERTY RIGHTS ISSUE FOR ME, HUGE. OH, I MEAN, IF HE WENT AND BOUGHT A PIECE OF PROPERTY TO BUILD YOUR PRACTICE, YOU'RE GOING TO GO OUT ON YOUR OWN BUILDING PRACTICE AND YOU WENT INTO THE CITY AND YOU SAT THERE AND YOU SAID, CAN I BUILD IT ON THIS PIECE? PROBABLY. THEY SAY YES. AND THEY CHANGE YOU BUY IT, AND THEN THEY CHANGE IT. OTHER USES THAT ARE ALLOWED ON THAT PROPERTY. IT'S NOT THAT YOU CANNOT SELL THAT PROPERTY FOR AN THIS ISN'T SOMEONE THAT'S SELLING IT, BUT YOU WAITED NINE YEARS. THIS IS THE THIS IS THE END USER THAT PURCHASED IT SHOULD BE YOU PURCHASING THE PROPERTY PERSON PURCHASES PROPERTY SPECIFICALLY FOR CAR DEALERSHIP. YES THAT'S CORRECT. HENDRIX AUTO GROUP.

THAT'S WHAT THEY DO WHEN YOU WHEN YOU GO FOR A CAR DEALERSHIP. YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO BUY THE LAND BEFORE YOU GET THE CAR DEALERSHIP. THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS. AND SO THEY CAME AND BOUGHT THE LAND IN ANTICIPATION OF GETTING CHORD RUPTURE SPECULATIVE THAT BOB WOULD COME HERE AND GET US TO PROVE IT. YOU'RE SAYING IT'S ALREADY APPROVED? IF I MAY I WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU, BOB, BECAUSE YOU WERE HERE A FEW MONTHS BACK, AND YOU GOT A CAR DEALERSHIP APPROVED ON 75. BECAUSE YOU ARGUED IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE A CAR DEALERSHIP THAT'S RIGHT BACK, ARGUING. THIS LOOKS LIKE A CAR DEALERSHIP. BUT LET US DO IT ANYWAY. NOW, CHARLIE, YOU YOU'RE AN ATTORNEY, RIGHT? SO YOU UNDERSTAND RIGHT NOW I'M A COUNCILMAN, ATTORNEY, SO GO BACK AND CONVINCE BMW TO BUILD ONE THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A CAR DEALERSHIP AND I'LL BET YOU YOU GET THE SAME VOTES OF APPROVAL. I'M GONNA. FORTUNATELY BMW CONTROLS THE EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS DEALER. GOOD I KNOW. HEY IF WE'RE IF YOU USE THE TERM APPEARS A COUNCILMAN ARE CHARGED RIGHT NOW IN AN S U P HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO. IT IS A DERELICTION OF DUTY FOR ANYONE UP HERE TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THE USE. THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE CHARGED WITH. THAT IS NOT WITH THE SGP LANGUAGES. THAT IS WAY OUTSIDE THE SCOPE. JENNIFER I WANT TO ASK YOU I DON'T WANT TO ASK THE APPLICANT IS WHAT I'M SAYING. CORRECT THAT AN S U P LANGUAGE AND THE CONSIDERATIONS

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THAT W SHOULD BE LOOKING AT ARE PURE AND SIMPLE. IMPACTS AND WHATNOT, NOT USE LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE THAT ASKS STAFF AND THE COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO CONSIDER IMPACTS ON ADJACENT LEE AND USES AND DEVELOPMENT BUT NOT SPECIFIC TO IS THIS USE APPROPRIATE OR NOT, IT IS. IS THIS USE APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT'S AROUND IT, RIGHT? SO WE WERE UP HERE MAKING THE DECISION. THAT PEOPLE ARE VOICING THINGS ARE WAY OUTSIDE THE SCOPE AND PERSONAL PREFERENCE, NOT NOT BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY, NOT ANYTHING ELSE . PERSONAL PREFERENCE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS BUILT THAT WAS PURCHASED BY THE END USER. THIS ISN'T THIS ISN'T THAT KID IS NOT UP HERE SAYING, I'VE GOT A PERSON THAT BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AND NOW WANTS TO SELL IT FOR A AUTOMOTIVE USE. THIS IS HENDRICKS AUTO GROUP, WHO THEY HAVE A DEALERSHIP HERE. RIGHT ALREADY. THIS IS THEIR SECOND DEALERSHIP. THIS IS A PERSON THAT'S BEEN DOING BUSINESS IN MCKINNEY THAT WENT TO THE CITY SAID I WANT TO. I WANT TO BUILD THAT WE OPEN THIS BMW DEALERSHIP . WHAT PROPERTY, YOU KNOW. CAN WE BUILD THIS DEALERSHIP ON THE CITY TELLS HIM YOU CAN BUILD IT ON THIS PROPERTY. THEY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY. THEY GO THROUGH THE YEAR LONG OR WHATEVER IT IS PROCESSED TO GET THE DEALERSHIP APPROVED. THEY GO THROUGH DESIGNING IT. YES, THEY GOT CAUGHT UP, THEN IN COVID AND BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS THAT DELAYED TO WHY WE'RE SITTING HERE. MAYBE TODAY AND I'M IT'S NOT MY PLACE TO JUDGE WHY THEY TOOK AS LONG AS IT DID OR AS QUICK AS THEY WOULD HAVE MOVED, BUT OUR CHARGES NOT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN S U P TO BE TALKING ABOUT PERSONAL PREFERENCES ON WHAT THE PROPERTY IS, AND THIS IS A BUYER THAT BOUGHT A PROPERTY. WITH THE RIGHT TO DO IT. WE CAME IN AND UNILATERALLY MADE A CHANGE TO THAT, GEORGE STARTED CONSIDERATION UNDER THE S U P SO WE CAN'T MAKE THAT ARGUMENT. NO IT'S THAT'S THAT'S NOT THAT I KNOW THAT ANALOGY. IT'S NOT. WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING USES. ONE CONSIDERATION ON PROPERTY RIGHTS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT A ZONING OR AN S U P OR ANY OTHER POLICY. THIS IS A PERSON THAT BOUGHT A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAD THE RIGHT TO DO THAT. IT'S NOT A CONSIDERATION FOR NCP. WHY THEY BOUGHT IT. NO AND WHAT'S THE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES? I THINK THE IMPACT ON THE ENTIRE CITY AND ALL THE PROPERTIES AROUND IT IS BAD. AND I'M VOTING AGAINST IT. FOR THAT MATTER. IT'S A GREAT SOUND BITE. IT'S NOT BASED IN ANY FACTUAL ECONOMIC ANALYSIS, MR MAYOR, I WANT TO MAKE A FEW REMARKS. UM I VOTED AGAINST THE ONE THAT CAME UP A FEW MONTHS AGO BECAUSE OF THE CAR USES ON 75. UH MY THESIS AND I CAN'T HELP I GET THE THING WITH THE S U P. BUT MY THESIS WAS AND REMAINS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW TO A LARGE EXTENT USED CARS ARE BOUGHT ONLINE. NOW YOU SEARCH IT OUT ONLINE. THEN YOU GO AND YOU DO THAT. YOU DON'T JUST GO TO A LOT AND SAY I WONDER WHAT THEY GOT HERE, YOU KNOW, AND SO, UM SO MY CONCERN WHEN WE LOOK AT CAR DEALERS ON 75 IS THE USED CARS ARE MY BIGGEST CONCERN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GO AWAY. THE NEW CARS ARE MY LEAST CONCERN BECAUSE OF THE SERVICE AS SPECT OF THEM.

BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU SAID NOW ABOUT THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN THE SERVICE, SO UM AND I THINK THAT CAR MANUFACTURERS ARE TRYING TO MONETIZE VERTICALLY WITH THE SERVICE. SO IF I LOOK ACROSS THE HIGHWAY, THOUGH, I SEE A SKELETON OF A DEALERSHIP NOW. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS FIRST. I'M NOT EVEN GONNA GUESS, BUT I THINK MOST RECENTLY WAS POLARIS AND THEY HAD TWO DOZEN PLAYERS ON WHATEVER FOUR ACRES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT DOES SCARE ME BUT SO THE BAD THING IS, IS THAS THAT CAR DEALERS COULD BE A PROBLEM, BUT THERE'S SO MANY.

MITIGATING FACTORS HERE ON THIS ONE. TO ME, ONE OF THEM IS THE FACT THAT THEY WANT MCKINNEY TO BE A PLACE THAT KEEPS ITS WORD AND DOES BUSINESS RIGHT? AND I THINK THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT FACTOR IN HERE TO HONOR THAT. THE NEXT THING IS, I AM A FIDUCIARY MCKINNEY TAXPAYER, AND WE ALL WANT NOT AT ANY COST. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT COMPLETELY, BUT WE ALL WANT MORE BUSINESS TAXES AND LESS PERSON UNLESS ON THE RESIDENCES, AND THIS DOES A GOOD JOB OF THAT. HMM MY FEAR ON THIS PROPERTY AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNSEL SAYING ABOUT YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOMETHING BETTER COULD COME IF I'M THE PROPERTY OWNER. COUNCIL SAYS NO TO ME ON THIS. LOOKING AT WHAT'S RIGHT AROUND THERE. YOU'VE GOT JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THERE. YOU'VE GOT TARGET. YOU'VE GOT LOWS. YOU'VE GOT HOME DEPOT DONE DONE AND DONE. ACROSS THE STREET. YOU'VE GOT WAL MART. YOU'VE GOT SAM'S DONE AND DONE. WHAT YOU DON'T HAVE IS EASY ACCESS TO WATER. BURGER, TACO BUENO AND POPEYE'S AND THAT'S MY CONCERN ABOUT WHAT MIGHT GO RIGHT AROUND THERE. UM FOR SOME REASON, I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS WHO DRIVE BMWS AND I CALLED THEM ALL THIS LAST WEEK, AND I SAID, DO YOU TAKE YOUR CARD TO GET TO GET SERVICE AT THE BMW DEALERSHIP? ALL OF THEM TOLD ME YES, EXCEPT ONE. AND WHY

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? BECAUSE THEY THROW KEYS AT ME TO TAKE THE NEWEST MODEL SO THEY COULD TRY TO SELL IT TO ME WHEN I COME BACK AND PICK UP MY OTHER ONE GOOD BUSINESS. WE ARE SENDING A LOT OF BUSINESS TO PLANO FOR BEING FOR THE BMWS RIGHT NOW. SO WHAT? THE S U P IF THIS PASSES HERE'S WHAT THE S U P DID IT GOT MORE LANDSCAPING AND LESS CARS BETWEEN 75 IN THE DEALERSHIP. WHICH IS I'VE BEEN ABLE TO AT LEAST ALL DOWN MY ESSENCE OF THE PROBLEM WITH THEM. ONE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY WILL TURN INTO SKELETONS AND I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHICH ONES WILL BE FIRST. BUT THE OTHER PART PROBLEM IS THE ACRES OF CONCRETE. OUT IN FRONT AND THEN A TINY BUILDING WAY IN THE BACK.

AND WE HAVE MITIGATED DOWN ON THIS ONE. SO WITHOUT PREJUDICE ON THE NEXT DEALERSHIP, YOU MAY BRING UP HERE ON THIS ONE. FOR THOSE REASONS, I'M GOING TO BE FOR IT. QUESTION. YEAH I DO THINK THE PROPERTY RIGHTS ISSUE IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING TO CONSIDER HERE. UM I THINK YOU KNOW THE IDEA ESPECIALLY USED PERMANENCE TO GET SPECIFIC THINGS OUT OF, UH, THE PROPERTY THAT DEVELOPS TO ENSURE THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT. AND I THINK WE'VE DONE THAT. AND I AGREE WITH THE ALTERNATIVE USES THAT WERE NOT TRADING THISA BIG BOX RETAIL. I THINK WE'RE TRADING THIS FOR DRIVE THRU FAST FOOD AND I WOULD PREFER THIS SO FOR THOSE FACTORS, I'M OKAY WITH THIS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. BOB THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. THERE'S ANYONE HERE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM. SEEN NONE ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR BARRETT MOVED THAT WE APPROVED THIS AS APPLIED FOR CLOSING PUBLIC HEARING. FORGIVE ME. I WAS PREDICTING I'LL SECOND ALL IN FAVOR. SAY AYE AYE OPPOSED. SO LET THE RECORD REFLECT FOR THREE DAYS. YOU MIGHT DO A ROLL CALL EMPRESS. COUNCILMAN PHILLIPS. NO. WE FELT THIS 10 YEAR. FULLER'S YES. YES. INCLUDING FRANKLIN. YES. WELL, ER YES. ALRIGHT LAST TIME, CONSIDER AND ACT ON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING

[Consider/Discuss/Act on a Resolution Authorizing the City Manager to Enter into a Predevelopment Agreement and a Reimbursement Agreement with Griffin/Swinerton, LLC (Developer) for the Purchase of Phase 1 Services for Multiple Facilities at McKinney National Airport]

THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A PRE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT WITH GRIFFIN'S WINTERTON LLC FOR THE PURCHASE OF PHASE ONE SERVICES FROM MULTIPLE FACILITIES THAT MCKINNEY NATIONAL AIRPORT. AND. EVENING MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL CARLY AIRPORT DIRECTOR. FIRST WE GET THIS UP AND WORKING. WE'RE JUST GOING TO USE THESE SEIDLIN'S ALL RIGHT. OKAY, SO UE IS, UM, REALLY APPROVAL OF PHASE ONE OF A PROJECT TO DEVELOP A COUPLE OF NEW NEEDED FACILITIES AT THE AIRPORT GOT A SHORT PRESENTATION TO ACCOMPANY IT. THIS IS BASICALLY BEING PROPOSED AS A DESIGN BUILD FINANCE WITH THE DEVELOPER, GRIFFITHS WINTERTON LLC. I HAVE GOT ONE OF THE PRINCIPLES WITH GRIFFIN SWINFORD IN HERE TONIGHT. COREY CRAWFORD WILL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. THE AGENDA. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE PROJECT SCOPE IN NEED, UM SHOW YOU A PROJECT SITE MAP SO YOU CAN KIND OF ORIENT YOURSELF WHERE THE DEVELOPMENTS PROPOSED. JUST A SLIDE KIND OF REVISIT THE RFP PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH THIS TO SELECT THE DEVELOPER, UM , GET INTO SOME DETAILS ON THE SCOPE OF THIS PRE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND THEN LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE FOR THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT. SO UM, THE PROJECT PROPOSES TO BUILD A 40,000 SQUARE FOOT HANGAR AND A U. S.

CUSTOMS FACILITY TO PROCESS INTERNATIONAL ARRIVALS. UM. LOOKING AT ABOUT FOUR ACRES OF DEVELOPMENT FOR THE HANGAR. UM, IN ABOUT 1.31 POINT FOUR ACRES OF RAMP AND ALSO AN EXTENSION OF A TAXIWAY. UM, WITH THAT PROJECT. UH WE SEE SIGNIFICANT DEMAND THAT WE CAN'T MEET TODAY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE HANGAR FACILITIES. UM TWO. UM ACCOMMODATE THE DEMAND. WE WERE PROBABLY SAYING NO TO A CORPORATE CUSTOMER EVERY WEEK TODAY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE FACILITIES. UM FOR AH TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR NEEDS. THE PROPOSED SIZE OF THE HANGAR AND THE DOOR HIGHLIGHTED THE HANGAR WOULD ACCOMMODATE THE LARGEST CORPORATE JETS THAT ARE OPERATING TODAY. UM THE PROPOSED FACILITY. WE ANTICIPATE REVENUE OF ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. THAT'S BASED ON A PERFORMER OF A SIMILAR HANGER JUST THANK YOU JUMP BACK THAT THAT'S A PHOTO OF A CORPORATE NINE HANGAR, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING

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TO BUILD AGAIN WITH THIS PROJECT. UM AND AGAIN THE MILLION DOLLARS IS BASICALLY REVENUE FROM THE LEASES THAT WE WOULD SELL FOR THE SPACE AND THE HANGAR AND THEN THE REVENUE FROM FUEL SALES AND OTHER AERONAUTICAL SERVICES THAT WOULD BE SOLD BY THE FBO TO THE TENANTS OF THE HANGAR. THE SECOND COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT IS TO CONSTRUCT ABOUT 3500 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY, UM, TO PROCESS INTERNATIONAL ARRIVAL. SO BE A FEDERAL INSPECTION STATION. ABOUT 2.5 ACRES FOR THAT PROJECT. UM TODAY WE HAVE THAT SERVICE AT THE AIRPORT, BUT THE FACILITIES THAT THEY'RE OPERATING OUT OF DON'T MEET THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS. WE'VE KIND OF OWED THEM A SOLUTION TO THAT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS BASICALLY COMBINED BOTH THESE PROJECTS INTO ONE BILL. AGAIN ABOUT $23 MILLION FOR BOTH FACILITIES. THERE IS SOME EVIDENCE THAT, UM. THIS IS PROBABLY ABOUT THE MOST ECONOMICAL WAY WE COULD CONSTRUCT. UM THE CUSTOMS PIECE OF THE PROJECT. WE'VE GOT AS A STAND ALONE PROJECT. WE'VE GOT COST ESTIMATES. DATING BACK TO JANUARY OF 20 TO ABOUT 5.7 MILLION FOR THAT FACILITY. STAND ALONE IF WE DON'T KIND OF RECOGNIZED HIM ECONOMIES OF SCALE AND COMBINE THE PROJECTS. SITE MAP JUST ORIENTED WHERE WE'RE AT ON THE PROJECT. SO THE CORPORATE NINE HANGAR AGAIN? THAT WAS THE PHOTO BACK HERE. THAT'S SITTING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THIS RED DEVELOPMENT AREA ON THIS MAP, SO THAT WOULD BE WHERE WE PROPOSED TO BUILD CORK 10.

THAT PROJECT AGAIN WOULD INCLUDE , UM, ABOUT 60,000 SQUARE FOOT OF APRON. OBVIOUSLY PARKING FACILITIES A LITTLE BIT OF AN EXTENSION OF THE TAXIWAY. UM, TO ACCESS THE FACILITY. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO AN ACCESS DRIVE FOR VEHICLES OFF OF WALLY WAY. AND THEN THE BLUE SQUARE REPRESENTS WHERE WE WOULD BE PROPOSING TO BUILD. UM THE U. S CUSTOMS FACILITY, SO THAT'S KIND OF AN ODD SHAPED PARCEL THAT ISN'T REALLY BIG ENOUGH TO DO, UM OTHER TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT FOR CONVENTIONAL HANGERS AND WHATNOT . IT WOULD BE THE FACILITY AND ENOUGH APRON TO PARK ONE AIRCRAFT. IT ALSO WOULD HAVE ACCESS FROM BOTH THE AIRSIDE AND LANDSIDE WITH THE WITH THE VEHICLE DRIVE ACCESS TO IT AND PARKING FACILITIES. AND THAT ALSO SITS. THAT'S A GOOD LOCATION FOR THAT, BECAUSE IT'S BETWEEN BASICALLY THE TWO PROBABLY LARGEST USERS OF CUSTOMS THAT ARE BASED THERE WITH AIR FLIGHT AND TEXAS INSTRUMENTS TODAY. SO THE R F Q PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH TO SELECT GRIFFIN'S WINTERTON, UM YEAH, IT WAS A FORMAL PROCESS MANAGED BY THE CITIES. UH, PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT. ULTIMATELY RECEIVED FIVE PROPOSALS. UM FROM THOSE PROPOSALS WE ELECTED TO CONDUCT INTERVIEWS WITH THREE FIRMS AND ENDED UP SELECTING GRIFFITHS WINTERTON, UM, BASED ON THE ITEMS YOU SEE HERE THAT FIRMS INDIVIDUAL AND PROJECT TEAM QUALIFICATIONS, THEIR CAPABILITY AND CAPACITY TO PERFORM THE SCOPE OF WORK. REFERENCES PROPOSED PROJECT SCHEDULE AND THE COMPLETENESS OF THEIR SUBMISSION. SO THE PRE DEVELOPMENT PHASE SCOPE OF WORK IS BASICALLY TAKING THE PROJECT TO ABOUT 80% DESIGN. SO TO CLARIFY, REALLY, AS WE MOVE INTO PHASE TWO. THERE'S ONLY ABOUT 20% OF DESIGN LEFT ON THE PROJECT AT THAT TIME, SO THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT 80% OF CIVIL ENGINEERING ALL THE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT DESIGN BUILD FOR THE MECHANICAL ENGINEERING, PLUMBING GEOTECHNICAL SERVICES. THE DEVELOPER WOULD MANAGE A HOST OF CONSULTANTS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL SECURITY ACCESS CONTROL SURVEYS MAPPING AND THEN ULTIMATELY, THIS PHASE OF THE PROJECT CONCLUDES WITH THE DELIVERY OF A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE. PROPOSED COSTS FOR THIS PHASE OF THE PROJECTS ABOUT $3.2 MILLION THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE $23 MILLION ESTIMATE FOR THE PROJECT. THE PROJECT SCHEDULE.

ASSUMING APPROVAL OF THE PRE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TONIGHT, WE WOULD CONCLUDE IN THE JULY TIME FRAME WITH THE NOTICE TO PROCEED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE OF THE PROJECT. WORKING THROUGH A NUMBER OF AGREEMENTS AND UM. SCOPES OF WORK TO DEVELOP THE GMP BETWEEN NOW AND JULY. SO JUST QUICKLY TO SUMMARIZE. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WE NEED.

THE FACILITIES ARE NEEDED. WE CAN AFFORD THE PROJECT. AND UM IT'S VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH HIGHEST AND BEST USE IS OF THE OF THE OF THE AIRPORT IN THE PROJECT, THE HANGER THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DEVELOP HIS HANDS DOWN THE HIGHEST REVENUE PRODUCER PER ACRE THAT WE HAVE TODAY. THE CORP NINE HANGERS BEEN INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL. IT'S GENERATING ABOUT A QUARTER

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MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR NET IN REVENUE PER ACRE. AND RIGHT NOW, SO WE'VE GOT FOUR ACRES SITTING THERE EARNING NOTHING, AND THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO WITH IT. AND WITH THAT, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. DEAL MITCH, UH, SAW YOUR SCHEDULE OF PRECONSTRUCTION. HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO HAVE THAT OPERATIONAL AFTER JULY OF THIS YEAR. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT CORNER? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL KOREAN CRAWFORD GRIFFIN'S WINTERTON, UT SCHEDULE SEVEN MONTHS AND WE'RE ESTIMATING SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 12 TO 14 MONTHS FOR THE PHASE TWO. SO THAT WOULD BE 12 TO 14 MONTH CONSTRUCTION PERIOD AFTER IT'S COMPLETELY I MEAN, AFTER BEST ONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. QUESTIONS. DEPENDING ON SIZE. UM I MEAN, I WOULD SAY IN CORPORATE NINE. RIGHT NOW, WE PROBABLY HAVE A DOZEN PLANES OF DIFFERENT SIZES. WEEKLY. CORP NINE WE BUILD IT WAS IT WAS SOLD OUT IN 45 DAYS, AND I WOULD SAY THE DEMAND THAT WE HAVE NOW IS AT LEAST WHAT IT WAS IN 2019 WHEN WE BROUGHT THAT ONLINE. UM WELL, WHAT IS IT? WHAT IS IT? THESE CORPORATIONS THAT YOU'RE TURNING DOWN OR LOOKING FOR? IS IT ENOUGH TO FILL THIS IN A WEEK AND IT'S SPACE FOR THEIR AIRCRAFT. IT'S RIGHT. BUT HOW MUCH SPACE ARE THEY LOOKING FOR? OR DO YOU HAVE ONE CORPORATION CALLING YOU A WEEK SAYING, I NEED THE ENTIRE THING? IT'S USUALLY A PER YOU KNOW THIS, IT'S A IT'S AN AIRCRAFT OWNER LOOKING FOR SPACE FOR THEIR HANGAR IN THIS MARKET. YEAH AND I'M HITTING AT HOW QUICKLY CAN YOU GET TO THE NEXT ONE? BECAUSE THIS ONE IS GOING TO BE FILLED SINCE WE GET IT BUILT, UM I THINK PRETTY QUICK, HONESTLY, A LOT OF THIS STUFF WE'RE DOING IN DEVELOPING THIS AGREEMENT, UM, SETTING UP THE STRUCTURE FOR THE NEXT ONE. UM MHM. IT SHOULD MOVE A LOT QUICKER IN THE SECOND PHASE. I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE YOU TOO MISS OUT BECAUSE I AGREE. YEAH. WE DON'T LIKE SAYING NO. AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT HERE ASKING ABOUT FUTURE PROJECTS, BUT THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING. SURE. THE OTHER QUESTIONS. ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVED THE ITEM AS PRESENTED. SECOND ALL IN FAVOR. I POST ALRIGHT CITIZEN COMMENTS ON MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA. DO WE? HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP? I DO NOT

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BELIEVE WE DO. COUNCIL. MANAGER COMMENTS. BUT KENNY NORTH GIRLS SIX AND OH, AND DISTRICT PLAYING , GET OUT AND SEE HIM WHILE HE CAME FOR THE POSTSEASON STARTS BECAUSE THEY'LL DEFINITELY BE THERE SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. AND I JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THE SCOUTS MADE IT ALMOST TWO HOURS THROUGH THE MEETINGS. WELL DONE. I MEAN, UH , YOU KNOW, WE ONLY HAD LIKE TWO OR THREE ITEMS ON URGENT TO BROUGHT IT OUT, AND WE WERE ABLE TO STRETCH IT OUT FOR YOU TO MAKE SURE YOU GOT THE REAL REAL FOR GOOD FEEL OF A THANKS FOR BEING HERE. GUYS APPRECIATE YOU.

SO THANK YOU FOR PICKING UP THE PLEDGE FOR US THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY. THAT WAS THERE WAS GRATEFUL, MR MAYOR OF TWO THINGS FIRST. I WANT TO GIVE THANKS TO JOE MAZZOLA AND HIS TEAM. THEY DID A ANIMAL OKAY PRESENTATION ON FRIDAY AND DR FELTUS AND I AND YOU WERE THERE. THERE WAS A PANEL THERE WITH DEPUTY CHIEF JIMMY THOMAS M PERSON, JOE. BUT THEY SHOWED US THE SPEECH OF MARTIN LUTHER KING'S I HAVE A DREAM SPEECH, AND I HADN'T WATCHED THAT IN YEARS AND YEARS AND THERE WAS ONE LINE IN THERE THAT I HAD NO IDEA EXISTED, AND I KEEP THINKING ABOUT IT. IT WAS THE TRANQUILIZING DRUG OF GRADUALISM. YEAH I THOUGHT THAT WAS JUST REMARKABLE. AND IT GOT ME REALLY THINKING ABOUT WE CAN LULL OURSELVES INTO THINKING WE'RE DOING SOMETHING BUT SOMETIMES WE'RE NOT DOING A THING AND HE WAS ONLY 35 YEARS OLD WHEN HE GAVE THAT SPEECH, AND IT WAS JUST REMARKABLE. UH TIME SPENT IN ONE LAST THING IS THIS THURSDAY, IT STICKS ICEHOUSE 15% OF YOUR TICKET WILL GO TO THE MCKINNEY PARKS FOUNDATION. THE PARKS FOUNDATION IS A PRIVATE GROUP THAT RAISES MONEY AND DOES A HELL OF A LOT OF GOOD AND PLANTING TREES AND CUTTING TRAILS AND STUFF. AND FROM 6 30 DAY 30 THEIR STICKS. ICEHOUSE ARE GOING TO BE MAKING SOME REMARKS ON THE BOARD MEMBERS WILL BE THERE. SO IF YOU'RE HUNGRY ON THURSDAY TO THE STICKS, ICEHOUSE MENTIONED MCKINNEY PARKS. FOUNDATION. 15% GOES TO THEM. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. US. I THINK DR FILTERS WAS TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING JUMPED RIGHT OVER ME. THAT'S OKAY. UM LOVED LOVED THE PROGRAM ON FRIDAY. I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE YOU LOOK

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AT A PROGRAM THAT, UM, INITIATED BY A STAFF MEMBER HERE AT THE CITY VERY IMPORTANT THING TO DO VERY GOOD DISCUSSION, SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK JOE AND CHRIS AND JIMMY FOR PARTICIPATING IN THAT I GOT A CHANCE TO GO TO DINNER HOSTED BY THE COLLIN COUNTY MLK APPRECIATION DAY COMMITTEE. THEY NORMALLY HAVE A NICE BIG SERVICE BUT HAD TO KIND OF CUT THINGS BACK A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE HAD A NICE GROUP OF PEOPLE FROM ALL OF ALL OF OVER COLLIN COUNTY AND MARY ALICE GARZA WAS THERE. SHE WON THE DRUM MAJOR AWARD FOR THE FOR THE YEAR, BUT WE HAD SOME REALLY GREAT DISCUSSIONS AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT REALLY GOT ME THINKING WAS IF MLK WAS ALIVE TODAY, WOULD HE BE IN COURAGE OR DISCOURAGED BY WHAT HE SEES IN OUR SOCIETY? THAT WAS A GREAT TOPIC TO COVER AND A LOT OF GREAT COMMENTS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT. SO JUST WANTED TO THANK UM THE ORGANIZERS, INCLUDING BETH BENTLEY AND MANY OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO ORGANIZED THAT FOR US, AND THEN ON MONDAY , I GOT TO GO TO SATAN JAMES CMH CHURCH WHERE THEY HOSTED AN MLK SERVICE WE GOT TO HEAR FROM DR JEREMY. WILLIAMS VERY BRIGHT YOUNG MAN WHO IS NOW A PASTOR OVER IN PLANO, WHO GAVE A VERY, VERY TOUCHING AND, UH SOME REMARKS FOR US IN HONOR. MLK DAY . UM WE GOT TO HEAR SOME OF OUR YOUTH SING AND SPEAK ON THAT DAY AS WELL. SO WE HAD A REALLY GREAT TIME AND JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR REMEMBERING THAT DAY AND KEEPING THAT DAY ALIVE FOR US. YES SIR. IF I MIGHT, I THOUGHT I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO MAKE JUST ONE SENTENCE. COMMENT ON REMARKING ABOUT PARKS AND REC THING, BUT I HAVE TO MAKE A COMMENT BASED ON TONIGHT'S CONVERSATION. UM FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK GARY GRAHAM ANTOINE FOR WORKING ON THE ISSUE. WITH RESPECT TO THE SIGNAL IN VIRGINIA. I KNOW IT'S A FRUSTRATING TOPIC. COUNCILMAN ROGERS. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING YOUR COMMENTS AND APOLOGIZING IF THAT INCLUDED AN APOLOGY, UM YOU KNOW, TRUST IS THE FOUNDATION OF WHAT WE DO. WE TALK ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME WITH OUR STAFF. I SEE OUR POLICE OFFICER OUT HERE. I SEE OTHER STAFF MEMBERS WHO WERE HERE EARLIER. WE TALKED ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME. AND IF OUR COUNCIL AND OR THE COMMUNITY CAN'T TRUST OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF AND THEN WE GOT A PROBLEM. WE'LL HAVE A PROBLEM IN THE COMMUNITY. WITHOUT A DOUBT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE. I THINK THE COUNCIL DOES TRUST, PROFESSIONAL ADVICE AND WISDOM. WE SPENT MONTHS WORKING WITH SCOTT WOODRUFF IN PARTICULAR THE PETITIONER OF IT, SCOTT, PRIMARILY. AND IT WAS VERY GRACIOUS, VERY GOOD MEETINGS AND WE TRIED TO FIND A WAY THAT WE COULD MAKE MAKE SENSE OF A SIGNAL. THAT'S 400 FT FROM ANOTHER SIGNAL, AND WE JUST COULDN'T GET THERE ON THIS ONE. MOST OF THE TIME. YOU DON'T SEE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE WITH DEVELOPERS THAT COME IN WITH DIFFERENT QUESTIONS ARE SAYING, HEY, CAN WE DO THIS? OR DO THAT OUR STAFF USUALLY FINDS A WAY TO ACCOMMODATE THEM WHAT YOU GET, AND I THINK COUNCILMAN ROGERS YOU FELT FRUSTRATION. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, IS THAT HE COULDN'T HAVE RESOLVED THIS ONE. NOT AT 400. FT NO ENGINEER , NO PROFESSIONAL PROFESSIONALLY LICENSED ENGINEER WHO DOES TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT IS GOING TO MAKE THAT KIND OF RECOMMENDATION. THEY JUST AREN'T GOING TO DO IT. AND WE DON'T GET IN. I THINK I THINK THE MAYOR POINTED IT OUT. WE DON'T GET TO PICK THE WINNERS AND LOSERS YOU DO. THAT'S THE POLITICAL PROCESS , AND I DON'T MEAN THAT IN A NEGATIVE WAY. THAT IS HOW POLITICS WORKS. I REMEMBER I STUDIED POLITICAL SCIENCE AS AN UNDERGRADUATE, AND I REMEMBER MY VERY FIRST POLITICAL SCIENCE CLASS PROFESSORS PUT IT CLEARLY , WE SAID, WHAT'S WHAT IS POLITICS, HE SAYS. WHO GETS WHAT ? WHEN? WHERE AND HOW MUCH THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT SUMS IT UP. AND STAFF DOESN'T HAVE THAT PRIVILEGE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO. AND IF YOUR COMMUNITY FINDS US PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS, THEN GET RID OF US BECAUSE THAT'S NOT OUR JOB . THAT'S YOUR JOB. AND UH AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR FOR THE RECORD, GARY AND HIS STAFF YOU KNOW THAT THE TIME THEY SPENT ON THIS, THEY'RE NOT. IT WOULD BE HEARTBREAKING FOR THEM TO THINK THAT, JEEZ, WE DON'T TRUST THEIR JUDGMENT OR WHAT THEY MEAN BY THIS, AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN ROGERS AGAIN. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND CLARIFYING IT, BECAUSE THAT THAT THAT MEANS A LOT, UM WE APPRECIATE ALL THE THINGS THAT PATIENTS YOU HAVE WITH US. SOMETIMES WE CAN'T GET THERE. SOMETIMES WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. JUST LIKE A DOCTOR MAKES RECOMMENDATION TO THEIR PATIENTS. PATIENTS MAY NOT TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION, JUST LIKE A LAWYER. MAYBE RECOMMEND SOMETHING TO THEIR CLIENT AND THE CLIENT. SOMETIMES ILL, ADVISEDLY SAYS, FORGET IT. THANKS FOR THE ADVICE, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE YOUR ADVICE, AND THAT'S THE SAME THING HERE, AND THAT'S JUST HOW THE PROCESS WORKS. BUT IT'S NOT OUR JOB. TO BE PICKING THOSE, AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT LAST THING I DID WANT TO SAY IS THAT ONE SENTENCE THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IN THE MCKINNEY PUBLIC LIBRARY SYSTEM HAVE RELEASED THEIR NEW ACTIVITY AND PROGRAM GUIDES FOR THE SPRING. TWO SENTENCES. FACILITIES HAVE DOZENS OF PROGRAMS AND CLASSES FOR ALL AGES. BOTH GUIDES CAN BE FOUND ON OUR WEBSITE MCKINNEY, TEXAS DOT ORG. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE,

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SIR. THANK YOU JUST SAY THAT WE HAVE AN EVENT JANUARY, 28TH HAD BENEFITS CAPTAIN JACK BONKOWSKI , WHO IS THE FIRE CAPTAIN THAT HAD A TRAGIC ACCIDENT. UM ON OVER THE HOLIDAYS, AND THERE IS AN EVENT CALLED THE YOUR HAT ON , AND IT WAS A SOLD OUT EVENT UP UNTIL 10 O'CLOCK THIS MORNING, WE ADDED FIVE MORE TABLES AT THE SANCTUARY. A EVERY PENNY RAISED WILL GO TO THE FAMILY. THERE WILL BE SOME FUN AUCTION ITEMS AND RAFFLES STUFF. GREAT MUSIC BY A BAND CALLED BUFFALO RUCKUS.

AND SOME SINGER, I FORGET HER NAME. REMEMBER MAY BE MAINLY, THOMAS. MAYBE THOMAS WILL BE PERFORMING AS WELL. UM BUT IT'S HOPEFULLY IT'S HOPEFULLY THE LOCAL JUST PROBLEM. YEAH COMMITTEE HOPEFULLY COMES TOGETHER AS THEY HAVE ALREADY DEMONSTRATED, COME TOGETHER TO HELP HELP ONE OF OUR BEGINNING FAMILIES. AND SO WITH THAT MOTION TO ADJOURN ALL IN FAVOR

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