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GOOD EVENING AT 602. PM WELCOME TO THE SYRIA, MCKINNEY'S PLANNING HIS OWN COMMISSION MEETING. TUESDAY, AUGUST 22ND 2023 THE COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU SEE SEATED BEFORE YOU HAVE BEEN APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. AND WE SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE SAME CITY COUNCIL. WE ARE IN ADVISORY BOARD THAT MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THAT WOULD BE THE CASE ON MOST OF OUR AGENDA TONIGHT. IF YOU HEAR DENIED AND YOU ARE GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN ONE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, PLEASE FILL OUT ONE OF THE YELLOW SPEAKER CARDS PRIOR TO COMING TO THE PODIUM. ON THAT CARD WILL NEED YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS AND THE ITEM THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING ON. AND IF YOU HAVE A POSITION ON THAT ITEM WHEN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM PLEASE FACE THE PLANNING HIS OWN COMMISSION. FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. ONE SO WE CAN HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND IT'S RECORDED AND THEN ALSO SO THESE CAMERAS CAN SEE YOUR FACE. AND THAT IS SENT ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS PART OF OUR MINUTES WE ASK THAT YOU DON'T ADDRESS THE CROWD. PLEASE FACE US SO WE CAN RECORD EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAY YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR CONCERNS. WE DO APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. IT IS PART OF THE PROCESS OF GOVERNMENT IN MCKINNEY THAT THE CITIZENS BE INVOLVED, AND THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY. TO PARTICIPATE, AND
[PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS (For Non-Public Hearing Items)]
WE DO APPRECIATE THAT. OUR FIRST ITEM WILL BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS ON OUR AGENDA THAT DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. COMPONENT TO IT. THAT WOULD BE THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING OR ONE OF THE PLATTE CONSIDERATIONS. WE HAVE SO IF YOU'VE COME TONIGHT, AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS PLANNING AND ZONING ON AN ITEM THAT DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. ALRIGHT? YES, MA'AM. HI GILLIAN CULBREATH AT 103 WESTWOOD CIRCLE. UM I JUST WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, AND I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO JACOB IN A FEW TIMES ALREADY ABOUT IT, BUT WE FOUND OUT JULY OF THE LAST MEETING THAT WE WERE ALL ACCIDENTALLY, UM RE CATEGORIZED AS R D 30, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL DUPLEXES, AND THAT IS FROM WESTWOOD PARK ALL THE WAY TO, UH , PECAN STREET, AND THERE IS NO DUPLEXES THERE, THEY SAID THEY HAVE SINCE FIXED IT. IT WAS CORRECTLY ON THE COLLIN COUNTY WEBSITE. BUT HERE, THE MCKINNEY WEBSITE WAS NOT CORRECT, SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT ON A CANNOT, UM, THAT'S NOT HAVE A PUBLIC[CONSENT ITEMS]
HEARING ATTACHED. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I APPRECIATE IT. THE NEXT ANIMAL. BE, UM. CONSENT AGENDA THAT IS ITEM 23 DAYS. 0688 MINUTES OF THE PLANNING HIS OWNER, COMMISSION MEETING OF AUGUST 8TH 2023 MEMBERS OF THE QUESTIONS OR MOTIONS ON THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING.MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION BY MR TAYLOR TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING.
MR. LOBO. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES THE MINUTES
[PLAT CONSIDERATION UNDER TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 212]
HAVE BEEN APPROVED. WHEN WE MOVE TO THE PLAN CONSIDERATION MEMBERS THE UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS ON ALL OF THESE PLANTS. SO UNLESS SOMEONE HAS PULL DOWN. WE'LL TAKE ALL OF THESE IN ONE MOTION. IF EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH THAT.WE'RE GOOD. I'LL READ THE CAPTIONS IN THE NETWORK WILL TAKE SEEK EMOTION FIRST AND MISSED 23 DAYS. 0155 CVP. CONVENIENCE PLATFORM. ALMA STACY EDITION LOTS OF ONE THROUGH EIGHT BLOCK A THIS IS ONLY SOUTHEAST CORNER OF ALMA ROAD AND STACY ROAD STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS. THE NEXT ITEM IS 23-0157. F P A FINAL PLAN FOR LOTS ONE R 11 R 21 OR THREE AND ONE OR FOUR BLOCKADE OF THE PARCEL 603 TO 6012603 EDITION.
SOUTH SIDE OF U. S HIGHWAY, 3 80. 400 FT EAST OF NORTH CUSTER ROAD STAFFERS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS. NEXT TIME IS 23 DAYS, 0158. F P, A FINAL PLANT FOR THE TRINITY TWO FALLS PARKWAY WEST. PHASE TWO EDITION. THIS IS ONLY NORTHWEST CORNER OF CLAUDE WHITE, GREEK AND TRINITY FALLS PARKWAY. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. WITH CONDITIONS IN OUR LAST PLAN TONIGHT IS TO THREE DAYS YOU'RE 159 FP. FINAL PLAN FOR THE TRINITY FALLS PARKWAY AND
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PARKLAND CRESCENT LOCATED WEST OF TRINITY FALLS PARKWAY. 2600 FT SOUTH OF COUNTY ROAD, 2 82 MEMBERS, QUESTIONS OR MOTIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PROVE THESE FOUR PLANTS WITH STAFF CONDITIONS EMOTIONAL. MR LABORDE APPROVED THE PLANTS AS PRESENTED, INCLUDING ANY STAFF CONDITIONS. SECOND, MR WATT LASER ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THE MOTION CARRIES THE PLANTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED. THE NEXT FEW ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. COMPONENTS. SO IF YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT AND YOU PLAN ON SPEAKING OR WOULD LIKE TO[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Site Plan to Allow for Golf Course Expansion (The Westridge Golf Course), Located at 9055 North Cotton Ridge Road]
SPEAK YOUR THAT PORTION OF THE AGENDA IS UP NOW, SO THE FIRST ITEM WOULD BE 23 DAYS. 0057. S P. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A SITE PLAN TO ALLOW FOR GOLF COURSE EXPANSION. THE WEST RIDGE GOLF COURSE. THIS IS AT 9055 NORTH COTTON RIDGE ROAD. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONERS ARI, BUT THEY ALL FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, PLANNER. UM BEFORE YOU IS A REQUEST FOR A SITE PLAN, CAN WE PULL UP THE PRESENTATION? SO BEFORE YOU AS A SITE PLAN APPLICATION TO ALLOW FOR THE INSPECTION EXPANSION OF THE WEST RIDGE GOLF COURSE. THE PROPERTY AS MENTIONED IS LOCATED AT 905. EXCUSE ME, 90 55 NORTH COTTON RIDGE ROAD. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT 100 AND 40 SQUARE FOOT KITCHEN BUILDING ON THE EXISTING GOLF COURSE PROPERTY. THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED EXPANSION WILL BE LOCATED ON BETWEEN TWO EXISTING BUILDINGS, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IN BLUE THE PROPOSED EXPANSION MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STANDARDS. THE REQUIREMENTS STANDARDS OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE AND NO VARIANTS OR DESIGN. EXCEPTIONS ARE BEING REQUESTED OR REQUIRED BY THE APPLICANT, THEREFORE, IS THE SITE PLAN USUALLY ARE TYPICALLY APPROVED OF STAFF LEVEL. HOWEVER THE GOVERNING PD ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT THE CYCLONE BE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. WITH STAFF RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST, AND I STAND UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. TORY MEMBERS. ANY QUESTIONS? TOOK NOTE THAT THIS IS WHERE PREVIOUSLY EQUIPMENT WAS STORED AS FAR AS THE SITE GOES. DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S EQUIPMENT STORED THERE NOW. AND IF SO, WHERE WERE THEY MOVING? THAT, TOO? I DON'T HAVE INFORMATION. IF THERE WAS EQUIPMENT STORE THERE, I KNOW IT WAS KIND OF LIKE LIKE A LITTLE HALLWAY OR, LIKE CROSS WAY BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS. UM SO NOW THIS IS GOING TO BE IN CLOSE TO ALLOW FOR THAT KITCHEN, WHICH IS PART OF THE RENOVATION THAT THEY'LL BE DOING WITH BUILDING FORWARD TO KIND OF ACCOMMODATE FOR THEIR DINING AREA. I THINK THEY'RE LETTER INTENT, SAID THAT THERE WAS A CURRENT EQUIPMENT YARD EQUIPMENT YARD, SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THEY WERE MOVING ANYTHING ANYWHERE ELSE.MM CURRENTLY I'M NOT CERTAIN, SIR. BUT I KNOW, UM, MOVING FORWARD FOR THE KITCHEN. THANK YOU, OR IS THERE APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT? THEY'RE NOT OKAY. UH THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AUTUMN IF YOU COME TO NINE, AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS PLANNING HIS OWN REGARDING THIS PROPOSED EXPANSION OF WEST RIDGE GOLF COURSE. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. NO ONE ALRIGHT. WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC CARRYING IMPROVE THE ITEM PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF EMOTION. I MISSED THE MAN'S ACTED CLUBS OF PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVED THE ANONYMOUS PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION. SECOND BY MR WOODRUFF. AND YOUR DISCUSSION. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “RED-1” - Residential Estate District to “R6” - Residential District and “R43” - Residential Estate District, Located at 105 South West Park Drive]
CARRIES OR IF YOU LET THEM KNOW THAT THE ITEM WAS APPROVED TONIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM 23 DAYS. 0039 Z THREE OF PUBLIC CURING. THERESA ON A SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM R E D ONE RESIDENTIAL ESTATE DISTRICT TO R SIX. RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND OUR 43 STATE DISTRICT. THIS IS AT 105 SOUTHWEST PARK DRIVE. CAITLIN THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSION NOT JAKE BENNETT. BUT I WILL DO MY BEST FOR HIM TONIGHT, SO JUST WANTED TO TOUCH BASE ON THE MAPPING QUESTION FROM EARLIER IN REGARDS TO THIS , SO WE DID DO SOME RESEARCH, AND WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS A[00:10:07]
MAPPING ERROR. ORIGINALLY HERE, IT WAS NOTED AS RD 30 INSTEAD OF THE RS 1 20 THAT IS SINCE BEEN CORRECTED, AND IT WAS PROBABLY JUST A MAPPING ERROR WHENEVER WE BECAME DIGITIZED BACK IN THE NINETIES. WITH THAT IN MIND, WE WILL KEEP MOVING FORWARD, SO THIS ITEM IS BEFORE THE COMMISSION ON THE JULY 11TH COMMISSION MEETING AND ITEM WAS TABLED SO THE APPLICANT COULD MEET WITH NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS. AND WORK WITH STAFF ON ANY UPDATE THAT THEY MAY HAVE COME UP WITH. SINCE THEN, THE APPLICANT IS NOW REQUESTING TO REZONE THE 1.9 ACRE TRACT INTO.TWO SEPARATE ZONING DISTRICTS, THE 0.33 IS NOW BEING REQUESTED TO BE REZONED TO R SIX FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, AND THEN THEY ARE ALSO REQUESTING THAT THE REMAINING TRACT HERE WILL BE. R 43. WHICH IS OUR NEW RESIDENTIAL ZONING, RESIDENTIAL ESTATE ZONING DISTRICT INSIDE OF THE UDC STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE UPDATED REZONING REQUEST AND TAKING INTO THE SAME CONSIDERATIONS. THE SURROUNDING EXISTING LAND USES ZONING OF ADJACENT PROPERTY AND THE ZONING OF THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD. AS WELL AS THE CONTRARY HENCE OF PLAN. CONFORMANCE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE UPDATED REZONING REQUEST AND I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, CAROLINE. QUESTIONS. SO THE AREA THAT WAS IN LIGHT BLUE A MINUTE AGO WHERE THEY WANT TO DEVELOP. HUMAN GO THROUGH KIND OF WHAT'S PERMITTED THERE? HMM AND HOW MANY BIG QUESTION FOR ME IS A SINGLE HOME IS IN MULTIPLE HOMES WORKING THE APPLICANT DO IN THE WAY OF BUILDING STRUCTURES ON THAT LOT. SURE SO FOR THE R SIX THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MEET ALL OF THE SPATIAL REQUIREMENTS FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED SO IT WON'T BE A TOWN HOME SITUATION. IT WILL JUST BE SINGULAR HOMES. I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE NOW WANTING TO SUBDIVIDE COMPLETELY IN HALF TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF TWO HOMES ON THAT PARCEL, WHILE ALSO ALLOWING FOR THE EXISTING HOME THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY TO REMAIN, BUT I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND CAN SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL. BUT SPATIALLY IT SHOULD FIT ABOUT TWO LOTS. AND SO ON.
AVERAGE IS THIS IS 14,000 SQUARE FOOT GOING INTO TWO, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 7000 MICRO LOT IN THE FUTURE, POTENTIALLY SO LARGER THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY ZONAL ORDER ARE SUBDIVISIONS AS FAR AS SINGLE FAMILY LOTS. THAT IS CORRECT. WE ARE SEEING SMALLER HOMES. IF THEY WENT DOWN TO THE R FIVE, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO HAVE ALLEY ACCESS. SO THE R SIX ALLOWS THEM TO STILL HAVE THE FRONT ACCESS, WHICH WOULD STILL REQUIRE THE DRIVEWAY TO HAVE SO MANY APARTMENTS STILL HAS TO HAVE THE 20 FT SO THAT THEY CAN PARK AND HAVE THAT SPACING REQUIRED. THE 20 FT BUILDING SET BACK IN THE FRONT BEHIND THIS WE ARE TO THE NORTH, I SHOULD SAY IS COMMERCIAL CORRECT BACK TOWARDS THE WEST IS DUPLEX IS CORRECT. YES. THEN HEIGHT WISE. WHAT'S THE RESTRICTION ON THE HEIGHT? I BELIEVE RESIDENTIAL CAN ONLY GO UP TO 35. I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT REAL QUICK, OKAY? QUESTIONS ANYONE? PALIN. THANK YOU AS OUR APPLICANT. YES, THEY ARE HERE TONIGHT. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ELIAS RODRIGUEZ. MY ADDRESS IS 76 10.
NORTH DEMONS FREEWAY, DALLAS, TEXAS 75247. AH MOST OF REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. THIS CASE CASING ON THIS CASE, IT WAS SHELVED BACK AND FROM JULY AND MOVED OVER. TO THIS DATE BECAUSE OF THE QUESTIONS INVOLVED AND CONCERNS REGARDING THE NEIGHBORS AND SINCE THEN, THE OWNER HAS MET WITH IN WITH THE NEIGHBORS. WE WERE ABLE TO MEDIATE AND COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS, BUT NEVER, EVER COMING UP 100% ON. IN TOTAL AGREEMENT THAT THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BEYOND WHICH IS VERY DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE WITH THE AMOUNT OF HOUSES IN THE AREA NOW NOTICES WHERE SUBMITTED WITHIN THE 200 FT BOUNDARY, BUT APPARENTLY SOMEBODY MADE COPIES AND SCATTERED THEM ALL OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS FINE. EVERYBODY'S ENTITLED TO AN OPINION. ESPECIALLY THESE CASES WHEN THEY FEEL THAT THERE IS AH , SOME SOME VALUE INTO COMING INTO THESE HEARINGS BASED UPON THE COMMENTS THAT WE LISTEN TO AND SUGGESTIONS OF PEOPLE DURING OUR LAST HEARING SUGGESTED WE WANTED TO SEE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. WE DON'T WANT TO SEE DUPLEXES TRAFFIC IMPACT. I WENT BACK WITH A FULL BLOWN OUT DESIGN AND PROPOSED BASED UPON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT THE
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JURISDICTION CREATED AND TRIED TO INCORPORATE WHAT WE FELT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE USES TO THAT PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD. I DO HAVE SOME THE FLASH RIDE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT, AND IT'S A POWER POINT VERY BRIEFLY THAT WOULD GIVE THE ZONING COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE AUDIENCE. BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE ENVISIONED THAT AREA TO BE SO THAT IT KIND OF JUST FALLS INTO THE SAME PLAN THAT I FEEL THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WOULD ALLOW THESE THINGS TO DO. IF I WOULD BE ALLOWED TO SUBMIT US. AS I SAID THAT UP LAST TIME WE SPOKE WE ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO GO OUT AND MEET WITH THE HOMEOWNERS AND TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW OTHER THOUGHTS AND HOW TO MAYBE COME TO A COMPROMISE HERE. DID YOU GUYS HAVE ANY DISCUSSION WITH HOMEOWNERS? I'M SORRY, SAM CHASM 1200 HIDEAWAY CODES THAT ARE HELD, UM WE WENT MET. TALK TO THE NEIGHBOR PRESENTED THE DUPLEX IDEA. THEY THEY WERE. DON'T WANT IT. I WE SAID WHAT COMMON GROUND CAN WE DO AT THE END OF THE MEETING AND SAID, HOW ABOUT TWO SINGLE HOMES. THEY SAID NO. FLAT OUT. A COUPLE OF PEOPLE TOLD ME NOTHING GOING TO BE BUILT THERE IT IS THE WAY IT IS, AND IT'S GONNA STAY THAT IRIS SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANY COMPROMISE. I FEEL I OFFERED AN OLIVE BRANCH. DIDN'T THEY WANTED TO CAR GARAGE? PUT TWO CAR GARAGE. THEY WANTED LESS THAN WE MADE IT LESS THAN I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I COULD COMPROMISE ON THAT. CAN COMPROMISE ON. BUT YOU DIDN'T MEET WITH HIM. I DID MEET FOR THEM AND IT WAS VERY HOSTILE. YEAH WELL, OKAY. WELL WE COULD START OFF WITH THIS JUST BRIEF POWER PUT. IT JUST GIVES YOU THE OVERVIEW OF OUR PROPOSED REZONING. CAN WE SWITCH? OH, HERE IT IS. YOU CAN SEE THAT SAME I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. TRAIN. RIGHT HERE. SORRY DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORK THAT MANY ARE YOU TWO FRIENDS. TECHNOLOGY.THERE YOU GO. SO THIS IS BASICALLY WHERE MIMICKING WHAT WE SUBMIT TO THE JURISDICTION AS FAR AS WITH THEIR NOW WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING CAN IT JUST GIVES YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE INITIAL SUBMITTAL TO THE NEXT INTO THIS IS HOW THE CURRENT UNLOCKED TO THE PARCEL OF LAND ON THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY ENCOMPASSES THAT WHOLE AREA. WE'RE PROPOSING A RE PLATT OF THE LOT. LEAVING THE EXISTING HOME WORDS THAT REPLANTING THOSE TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SITE PLAN, PROPOSING A FRONT ENTRY GARAGE KIND OF BLENDS IN WITH THE FACADE OF THE HOUSE, SO IT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO LOOK LIKE A GARAGE FROM THE STREET. YOU ACTUALLY GET TO TURN IN AND YOU'VE GOT TWO PARKING SPACES IN THE FRONT OF THE HOME. SO THAT KIND OF PROVIDES A LITTLE RELIEF ON SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP IN THE JULY 15TH JULY HEARING. THIS IS A SURROUNDING AREA ON VIRGINIA PARKWAY. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS TO OUR NORTH WE HAVE, UH, COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS RIGHT BEHIND OUR PROPERTIES. IT'S ALSO A DIFFERENT ANGLE OFF A JOURNEY . VIRGINIA PARKWAY TURNING INTO THE ACTUAL NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THESE ARE THE EXISTING DUPLEXES THAT ARE CURRENTLY RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE LOT AND TO THE WEST OF IT. THIS IS THE THAT'S AN ANGLE FROM THE WEST. FACING EAST TO THE LOT. BUT THAT'S A START. ALSO THE FRONT PICTURE ELEVATION . YOU CAN SEE THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH OF IT AND THE MAIN STREET TO THE LEFT. THE EXISTING PROPERTY WAS ACQUIRED INITIALLY AS PART OF THE ENTIRE CORNER TRACK OF LAND.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING , SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S NOT A DUPLEX. IT'S VERY COMPATIBLE TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE JURISDICTION AND PART OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE'RE ABLE TO INCORPORATE THE TWO PARKING SPACES. VERY VERY NICE VISUAL AESTHETICALLY, AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO REALLY ENHANCE THAT CORNER. THERE'S NOTHING THERE YOUR BUDGET BY COMMERCIAL TO THE
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REAR. AN EXCELLENT THAT'S IT. THAT'S ANOTHER. IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT SIDE OF THE ELEVATION.YEAH. THAT'S A REAR OF IT. AND THAT'S THE ACTUAL STREET. FACING DOWN FROM THE CORNER LOOKING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I GET IT. BUT SOME OF THESE HOMES ARE A LOT OLDER, WELL MAINTAINED AND TAKEN CARE OF. I UNDERSTAND. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S VERY COMPATIBLE AND COMPREHENSIVE. THAT'S GOING TO FIT INTO THE CURRENT PLAN THAT'S IN THAT AREA, AND WE FEEL THAT BASED UPON THE HEARING BACK IN JULY, AND ALL THE COMMENTS THAT WERE TAKEN IN PLACE, I THINK WE'VE KIND OF GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND. IN TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING TO PROPOSE THE JURISDICTION AND JUST COMPLY WITH WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO. SO YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT YOU TAKE ALL OF THIS ENCOURAGEMENT CONSIDERATION AS ZONING COMMISSIONERS AND TAKE IT FROM THE LEGALITY ISSUE AND AS FAR AS ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE TO TRYING TO COMPLEMENT AND FIT INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONE. AND YOU KNOW THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE HERE TO APPEAL THIS CASE AND TRY TO MOVE FORWARD IF WE CAN HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND WE'RE WILLING TO EVEN CONTINUE WORKING EVEN MORE SO IF THE OPPORTUNITY ARISES OR SOMEONE WISHES TO SPEAK UP AND MEDIATE AND COME UP TO AN AGREEMENT THAT WE WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO MEET ANYONE HALFWAY. THANK YOU, MR RODRIGUEZ. WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS IF YOU'LL HOLD TIGHT. ONE MINUTE. YES SIR. I HAVE A QUESTION. SO WHO'S RESIDENT OF THE EXISTING PROPERTY TODAY? IT'S VACANT. THE PROPERTY IS VACANT, VACANT VACANT. OKAY SO MY QUESTION WAS OR THEIR ACTIVITIES ON THE LOT THAT WOULD THAT WOULD PRECLUDE THEIR BUILDING GOING ON THERE, OR IT'S A LOT JUST VACANT AND THERE'S NO ACTIVITY THERE AT ALL. NO ACTIVITIES. OKAY? I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. HOW MANY SQUARE FEET ARE GOING TO BE EACH OF THOSE HOUSES? THEY'RE RIGHT UNDER 2000 SQUARE FEET. AND THE SETBACK IS 5 FT. ON THE SIDE FOR EACH ONE OF THEM. SO IT'S 10 FT. BETWEEN YEAH, THE SITE PLAN IN THE DESIGN WAS CREATED BASED UPON THE PROPOSAL ZONING, WHICH WOULD OBVIOUSLY YOU'D HAVE THE 25 FT SETBACK AND 55 AND FIVE ONE MORE QUESTION. YES, SIR. WHAT KIND OF BUFFERING WOULD BE BETWEEN THOSE TWO NEW HOUSES AND COMMERCIAL WOULD PROBABLY HAVE FENCE AND AS WILSON LANDSCAPE WE WANT TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO ENHANCE AND KIND OF BLEND IN WITH THE ERA. YOU KNOW WHAT? SOMETHING TO STAND OUT.
WE'VE GOT. WE'RE BUDGET BY COMMERCIAL OF THE REAR AUSTRALIA'S ALREADY OFFENSE BACK IN THE BACK. IT COULD BE. AS IT IS, IT'S KIND OF A BUFFERING ISSUE TO HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW YOU'RE GONNA PROTECT MORE HOMES GOING IN THAT SMALL TRACT. WELL YOU CAN ONLY FIT SO MANY HOMES IN THAT TRACK OF LAND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE JUST PROPOSING THOSE TWO WE WOULD I MEAN, WE CAME IN THE FIRST TIME. I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS INITIALLY IN THE FIRST HEARING THAT AND WE LISTEN AND WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND LOOKED AT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LOOK AT THE OPTIONS THAT WERE AVAILABLE TO US TO EXERCISE OUR RIGHT IN ORDER TO COME IN. AND PROPOSE A REFLEX. SOME OF THAT INFORMATION CAME DIRECTLY FROM THAT HEARING BACK IN JULY, AND I THINK WE HAD A FEW PEOPLE SAID WE'D LOVE TO SEE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. WHAT WE'RE BACK WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. I BELIEVE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT VACANT HOME IS GOING TO GET ONCE WE'VE DONE WITH THIS IS GOING TO GET REHAB AND STAND WHERE IT IS AND GET REHAB AND SOLD. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION YOU YOU WERE WONDERING ABOUT THE OTHER 1.5 ACRE. THE PLAN IS FOR THAT HOUSE TO STAY WHERE IT IS, AS IS THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T TOUCH IT. IT WOULDN'T PROPOSED TO REZONE THE WHOLE AREA. BECAUSE WE WANTED TO KEEP THE HOUSE WHERE STANDS AND JUST REALLY HAPPENED. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU, MR RODRIGUEZ. IF YOU'LL WAIT AROUND , WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING. YES, SIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY WE'LL MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF CARDS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED. WHAT WILL DO WILL READ THESE CARDS AND IF YOU HAVE A POSITION OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK WELL LET YOU KNOW. AGAIN WHEN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, POLICE FACE PLANNING AND ZONING AND SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE LIKE THREE MINUTES. TO SHOW YOUR THOUGHTS AND WHEN YOU HAVE WE HAVE A TIMER, SO 30 SECONDS LEFT WAS YET A YELLOW THAT GREEN TURNS TO YELLOW, SO WE APPRECIATE IT. IF YOU WILL STICK WITH THAT. LET'S BE RESPECTFUL OF EACH OTHER'S
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TIME. WITH THAT FIRST CARD IS FROM GILLIAN COBRA. AH WE HAVE A LOT OF BOXES CHECKED OPPOSITION.YOU WISH TO SPEAK YES. YES OKAY . SORRY ABOUT THAT. SO I'M JULIE NELSON CULBRETH AND THAT ONE OF THREE WESTWOOD CIRCLE. I'M HERE TO SPEAK TODAY ABOUT THE AREA THAT WE LIVE IN. IT'S A VERY BIG COMMUNITY AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORS HERE TONIGHT. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO BRING UP IS THIS AREA IS VERY OLD. UM IT HAS A LOT OF HISTORY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT HISTORICAL DISTRICT HAS A LOT OF HISTORY ON THE WEST SIDE OF MCKINNEY. IT'S ONE OF THE FIRST COMMUNITIES BUILT ON THE WEST SIDE OF MCKINNEY. WHAT A MAYOR'S COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE, UM, COME FROM THIS AREA. WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE STARTED THINGS ON THE WEST SIDE OF MCKINNEY, LIKE THE MCCARLEY IS THAT WHICH IS THAT HOUSE THERE. THE ORIGINAL OWNERS , LEDBETTER'S THE MILLERS, BILL SMITH AND WILD HOW MANY OF YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT? HOW MAY HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM. I LIVE IN HIS OLD HOUSE. UM WE NEED A KEY BACK COMMUNITY. UM, THESE HOMES WHILE THEY MAY BE BEAUTIFUL, THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL AND ANOTHER AREA. IT DOES NOT MATTER AREA ARE AREA OR CUSTOM HOMES.
THEY'RE NOT COOKIE CUTTERS. NO HOME THERE LOOKS LIKE THE OTHER . MY HOME, IN FACT IS OVER 3000 SQUARE FOOT ON 3000 SQUARE FEET ON A SINK ON SINGLE FLOOR. NOT A TWO STORY HOUSE. I MOURN A THIRD OF AN ACRE MOST OF THE HOUSES IN OUR ACRE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ORDERS BETWEEN A THIRD OF AN ACRE TO TWO ACRES. THIS IS NOT ONE THAT LITTLE BIT HOMES LESS THAN 2000 SQUARE FEET. WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY WITHIN THE 30 HOMES THAT WERE BUILT IN THE SEVENTIES THAT ARE LESS THAN 2000 SQUARE FEET. THIS IS NOT A THIRD OF AN ACRE, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE SMALLER AREAS THAT WE HAVE. SO I ASK THAT YOU CAN COUNT. CONTINUE OUR FIGHT TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY THE WAY IT IS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE NEXT CARD IS SOME LARRY OFFERED ALL MR ROCKFORD ALL.
GOOD EVENING MONUMENT LARRY OFFERED. I LIVE AT 24 11 PEACHTREE LANE IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS. I PURCHASED MY HOME IN 1991 OF THE REASONS THAT I PURCHASED THIS HOME WAS THE SIZE OF MY LOT, WHICH IS RS 20. I LIVE ON PEACE, TREE LAND AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE NOTICED.
EXCUSE ME. I HAVE NOTICED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC COMING NORTH BONG ON WEST PARK CRIME OVER THE YEARS, PARTICULARLY WITH THE ADDITION OF THE NORTHBROOK SUBDIVISION. THE NUMBER OF CARS COMING UP FROM THE SOUTH. ACTUALLY GOING. VIRGINIA HAS INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY. AND SO I THINK NOW THIS STREET HAS BECOME A COLLECTOR OF STREET. AND SO THAT WITH THEM WEST PARK DRIVE AND PARTICULARLY IN FRONT OF BILL SMITH'S HOUSE, WHICH IS REALLY A FAIRLY NARROW STREET, AND SO BUT THROUGH THREE MONTHS AGO, I WAS DRIVING, UM. OH INTO THE SUBDIVISION GOING SOUTH AND WEST PARK BRIBE CAR COMES AROUND IN FRONT OF BILL SMITH'S HOUSE. I REALLY HIGH RATE OF SPEED. AND ALMOST COLLIDE WITH ME WHILE I JUMPED THE CURB. AND OF COURSE I DAMAGED MY AUDI BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO REALLY NICE SUBDIVISION. ALL THE HOMES IN THIS SUBDIVISION RRS 1 20. THE REASON I APPROACHED THIS HOME IS BECAUSE THE SIZE OF MY LAWN ON PEACHTREE LANE AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE WEST PARK DRIVE AND LOOK AT PEACE, TREATY, LAND AND THE OTHER STREETS THERE THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL STREETS WITH BEAUTIFUL HOMES. AND SO MY CONCERN WITH THIS IS THAT THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO VARIOUS STABLIZATION NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH AND THE AND THIS HAS YOU COME INTO THIS AREA. AND YOU DRIVE PAST BILL SMITH'S HOME. YOU REALLY RECOGNIZE THE QUALITY OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD? AND SO I THINK MOST OF US HERE TONIGHT ARE REPRESENTING THAT. WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OF HIGH QUALITY NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVE A COMMITMENT TO I'LL REST OF OUR NEIGHBORS THAT WE ARE GOING TO MAINTAIN OUR PROPERTIES BECAUSE MOST OF RESIDENTS HERE. OUR HOMEOWNERS. THEY LIVE IN THIS IN THE HOUSES AND THEY'RE VERY, VERY NICE HOMES. AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M WRITING IN OPPOSITION TO THIS. AND SO I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU HAVE A QUESTION. MR HOFF DOT EXCUSE ME . CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? UM I WAS JUST TRYING TO COMPARE THESE PROPOSED HOUSES TO THE LIKE YOU. ATTACHED HOMES. IF THE LAKEVIEW ATTACHED HOMES WHERE THIS KIND OF CONSTRUCTION WOULD YOU BE IN FAVOR OF IT INSTEAD OF THOSE OR WELL, WHAT ONE OF THE I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT POINT UP BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
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TO HAVE THESE HOMES HAVE RESONANCE VALUE. I WOULD BE MORE IN FAVOR OF HAVING AN RS 1 20 HOME BUILT ON THAT SITE, BECAUSE THAT IS REALLY THE ENTRANCE THERE, AND THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT I THINK ON IN FRONT OF THIS CITY SUBJECT PROPERTIES REALLY NEEDS TO BE AND ON. I KNOW YOU GUYS DON'T ADDRESS THIS, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE A NO PARKING THERE ON NET NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET IN FRONT OF THESE NEW HOMES, PROPOSED HOMES BECAUSE THE REALITY IS ABOUT THAT. IF THEY HAVE GUESTS, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PARK OUT ON THAT STREET WEST PARK DRIVE. UH HUH. AND THEY HAVE PARKING OFF STREET PARKING, BUT THE CONCERN IS THAT THEY HAVE FAMILY OR GUESTS OVER UH, THIS IS THE THAT CURVE AROUND BILL SMITH'S HOUSE. BILL SMITH, UH, BLOWN IS ABOUT 4 TO 5 FT, HIGHER THAN IN THE STREET. AND SO WHEN? WHEN PEOPLE COMING SOUTH BONG GOING NORTH AROUND BILL SMITH'S HOUSE. YOU DON'T SEE HIM UNTIL THEY RIGHT THERE. AND SO WHEN I WHEN I MET THIS CAR COUPLE FEW MONTHS AGO IF I WOULDN'T HAVE JUMPED THE CURB HE WOULD HAVE QUITE IT RIGHT INTO ME. AND SO I SAID, WHAT I THINK, AND I ALWAYS APPROACH THIS VERY SLOWLY ANYWAY , BECAUSE I KNOW THIS CURVE IS PRETTY CAN BE POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS. AND SO HMM. WHAT? I'M RECOMMENDING WHAT I WOULD HOPE THAT WE DO IS THAT WE HAVE AN RS 1 20 HOME. THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO RE FAB, THE OTHER HOME. WHICH IS 1 20 AS WELL. AND THAT REALLY STARTS BRINGING THE CHARACTER OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. REALLY? YES THE INTERNET IS COMING INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, SO THAT'S WHY I'M OPPOSED TO HIS OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR ALFREDO. NEXT CARD IS JOHNNY ERHARD WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS MY NAME IS JOHNNY ERHARD. I LIVE AT 107 PEACH TREE LANE. I SPOKE TO PREVIOUS HEARING ABOUT THIS AND I KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT HAS MET WITH A FEW OTHER HOMEOWNERS. I'M NOT IN THAT 200 FT NOTICE AREA, SO I DID NOT ATTEND THAT MEETING. BUT WHAT THEY PRESENTED. I AM OPPOSED TO YOU BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT REQUEST IF IT'S APPROVED, MAKE IT NOT MAKE IT INCONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I'M REQUESTING THAT YOU DENIES. THE APPLICATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR ERHARD. NEXT CARD IS GAIL LEDBETTER IN OPPOSITION. I LIVE AT 2 11, SOUTHWEST PARK. FIVE HOUSES FROM THIS MCCARLEY PROPERTY IN MY NAME IS GAIL LEDBETTER. THE HOUSE I LIVE IN IS THE NEWEST HOUSE. IN WEST PARK EDITION. IT WAS BUILT IN 1979 AND I MOVED IN IN 1980. I HAVE LIVED IN MY HOUSE FOR 43 YEARS. MANY NEIGHBORS THAT I HAVE WE'RE LIVING IN THEIR HOUSES WHEN I MOVED IN, AND THEY'RE STILL LIVING THERE. THERE IS VERY LITTLE TURNOVER. IT IS A DESIRABLE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUILT WITH CUSTOM FLOOR PLANS ON CUSTOMER LOTS. IT COULD BE CALLED AN HISTORICAL DISTRICT, EVEN THOUGH ITS LOCATION IS WEST OF 75. SMALL HOUSES ON SMALL LOTS. ARE JUST NOT A FIT. THEY WOULD DEVALUE OUR PROPERTIES. IF THIS ZONING CHANGES ALLOWED, IT WOULD SHOW NO REGARD FOR THE STABILITY, UPKEEP AND PRIDE. THAT WE AS HOMEOWNERS HAVE POURED INTO OUR PROPERTIES. WE HAVE MAINTAINED A QUALITY NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND I'M HOPEFUL YOU WILL DENY THIS SOMETHING. REQUEST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS LEDBETTER. NEXT CARD IS CAROL SELF. ITSELF. CHAIRMAN COX WOULD IT CAROL SELF 104 PEACHTREE LANE MCKINNEY, TEXAS.WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO TRADE CARDS MOMENTARILY WITH MR SMITH, WHO IS ALSO GOING TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? TRADE? COURAGE? MEANING WHAT? I'D LIKE HIM TO COME TO THE PODIUM. I THINK HE HAS SOME BEAUTIFUL HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE ON THIS, AND THEN I CAN SPEAK. SPEAK IN INSTEAD OF YOU, BUT WILL ONLY ALLOW THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND WE WON'T COMBINE THE TIME IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING NOT TO COMBINE THE TIME I JUST WANTED TO SWAP CARDS AND HAVE HIM COME SPEAK, OKAY? THANK YOU, MR FLYNN. MR SMITH AS SOON YOU WERE READY FOR THAT AUDIBLE THAT SHE CALLED WAS NOT. IN FACT, I HAD I HAD A LOT MORE THAN THREE MINUTES PLAN BUT THOSE THAT
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SPOKE BEFORE ME HAVE USED MOST OF MAN MATERIAL. UM. I CAN POINT HOPEFULLY AROUND THE CURVE. THAT SO MANY PEOPLE SPOKE OF HERE. DURING THE FIRST. MM HMM. WE WON'T HOLD THIS AGAINST YOU, OKAY? THIS THING YOU'RE WORKING ON. DOUBLE, JENNIFER TIMER. YEAH, YEAH. YEAH.YOU CAN YOU GOT IN THERE? OKAY SCREEN, OKAY? SO OKAY. WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, OKAY? THAT CURVE.
IT IS. TOTALLY 100% DEFINES ONE TWO SIDES OF MY LOT. THAT LOT IS APPROXIMATELY 4/10 OF AN ACRE.
17 HALF. 1,017,500 SQUARE FEET. THEY ARE A D. AREA. HAVE MCCARLEY USED TO BE MACAULAY'S.
NOW SAM'S THAT'S CLASSIFIED AS ALREADY ONE MEANING. CAN YOU CAN HAVE A STATES. BUT THEY HAVE TO BE SETTING ON A ONE ACRE TRACK. ACCORDING TO MY CALCULATIONS, THERE'S ROOM ENOUGH IN THAT TWO ACRES TO HAVE TO WITHOUT A CHANGE IN THE IN THE ZONING. I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE TANDEM. OF THOSE TWO LOTS ARE THOSE TWO PROPERTIES NUMBER ONE. THEY DEFINE THE CURVE, WHICH YOU'VE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT PREVIOUSLY. THEY ALSO SERVE AS AN ENTRANCE. TO A HOUSING EDITION THAT CONSISTS OF WESTBOURNE DRIVE, WESTWOOD CIRCLE. AND PEACH TREE LANE. NOW THIS IS THE HOME. IT.
IT. IT'S GOT THE WHIZ NANCE IN THE BUT LEDBETTER'S IN THE SCOTS AND THE CLARKS AND THE DOWELS AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON. AH! FATHERS, TOO. THE HISTORY OF MCKINNEY. LOOK AT THE SHAPE OF THOSE LOTS. FOLLOWED AROUND WEST BARKING INTO WESTWOOD AND UP ON PEACHTREE. THEY THERE'S VERY FEW 90 DEGREES IN THAT. WHAT THAT MEANS IS. VERY KEY PRIVACY FENCES. THERE'S NOT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN OPEN COMMUNITY. AND PRETTY CLOSE KNIT COMMUNITY AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT. INITIALLY ARE . I WAS NOT ABLE TO TESTIFY IN THE ORIGINAL. UM. REZONING REQUEST, BUT SOMEONE SAID WE DIDN'T EXPECT ANY RESISTANCE TO THIS. WE DIDN'T EXPECT ANY RESISTANCE TO PUTTING IN TOWN HOMES AND ON THAT PROPERTY. IN A SUSPECT THEY WOULD SAY WE DIDN'T EXPECT ANY RESISTANCE TO REZONING. IT ARE SIX INSTEAD OF RS 1 20. MY LOT IS RS 1 20. BUT IT'S GOT 17,000 NOT 12,000, NOT THE MINIMUM. LIKEWISE ALL OF THOSE LOTS THEY'RE ACTUALLY 34 HOMES. I COUNTED THEM UP. YOU KNOW, IN THAT ADDITION THAT WE CALL OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND VERY FEW OF THEM. HAVE LESS THAN WELL . VERY FEW. NONE OF THEM HAVE LESS THAN 12,000 SQUARE FEET. MOST OF THEM HAVE AT LEAST 20,000 SQUARE FEET. THEY ARE CUSTOM HOMES, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT CHARACTERISTIC OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. JUST LOOK AT IT NOW. I MEAN, THIS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IT IS TO ABILITY TO RENEW
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ITSELF. MM. THIS THIS THIS IS MY LOT. ANYBODY THAT GOES BY THAT AND SAYS IT WAS BUILT IN 1974, AND HE HADN'T KEPT IT UP. THEY WOULD THEY WOULD MEET WITH SOME RESISTANCE. THIS RIGHT HERE. IS MY NEIGHBOR, MY NEW NEIGHBOR. TO THE IN THEIR HOUSE HAS BEEN REDONE. THIS IS JOHN. JENNIFER'S HOUSE. IT'S BEEN REDONE THIS THIS. HOUSES A BEAUTIFUL RAY REDO OF THE OUTSIDE AND PROBABLY THE INSIDE, TOO. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THESE TWO LOTS THAT YOU YOU CONSIDERING THE REZONING THIS SURVEYS ENTRANCE TO A HIGHLY RESPECTED HERITAGE. SOME PEOPLE SAY LEGACY NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE DON'T WANT IT CHANGED. THESE ARE ALSO INFLUENCE YOUR PROPERTIES. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT LOOK AT HOW THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING, MR SMITH. APPRECIATE IT. YOU DO? YES, SIR. APPRECIATE IT.YES, SIR. AND NOW YOU GAVE ME MORE THAN THREE MINUTES, BUT I APPRECIATE IT. TAKE IT BACK FROM SOMEBODY ELSE HERE IN A MINUTE. NEXT CARD. ELIAS RODRIGUEZ, SPEAKING IN FAVOR. CHEERS.
RESULT YES, SIR. NEXTCARD SAM! SAME OKAY? NEXT CARD IS CINDY ALLEN. SEE HIS CHECKED BOTH BOXES. YES OR NO? AND SPEAKING. NO. YOU ARE IN OPPOSITION. NEXT CARD IS CAN'T CAREFREE, DO NOT WORK TO SPEAK, BUT I'M IN OPPOSITION. JENNIFER LEFFINGWELL. I DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK AND THEN OPPOSITION CORRECT. THANK YOU. THOMAS EDWARDS DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. CORRECT NEXTCARD, JUDITH AND IVAN INDOOR ER IN OPPOSITION CORRECT. THANK YOU. X CARD. LOUISE HIGH BAR IN OPPOSITION DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK. YOU CAN.
LOUISE HOW YOU ARE, AND I LIVE AT ONE OR THREE PEACH TREE LINE AND I ALSO ON THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING. 24 11 VIRGINIA PARK WIDE, WHICH IS WITHIN THE TURNER FEET. BUT UM AND I WANT TO ADDRESS THE LIGHT VIEW CIRCLE ENTRANCE. IT IS AS YOU'RE COMING IN. FROM VIRGINIA PARKWAY. YOU TAKE A LEFT ONTO WEST PARK. BY THE U TURNED LEFT TO COME INTO OUR PARTY, BUT YOU MAKE A DIRECT RIGHT TURN TO GO INTO LIKE THE CIRCLE, WHICH ARE THE DUPLEXES IN TOWN HOUSES THAT WERE BUILT.
PROBABLY IN THE EARLY EIGHTIES LATE SEVENTIES. I'M NOT SURE SO THEY ARE REALLY NOT INFLUENCED THEIR KIND OF OFF TO THE SIDE. THEY'RE ALL FROM. YOU CAN SEE WHERE MR SMITH SLOT IS. THEY ARE OFF TO THE LEFT OF IT AS YOUR RYAN, WHICHEVER WAY, GRIFF ICING. SO YOU REALLY DON'T GET WHEN YOU COME INTO OUR ENTRANCE ? YOU TAKE IT LEFT TO COME IN HOURS AT A DIRECT RIGHT TO GET THE LAKEVIEW CIRCLE, SO IT'S NOT REALLY RIGHT IN THEY'RE WITH US. IT'S KIND OF OFF THAT SELF. AND I THOUGHT LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT MY FATHER WAS THE ONE THAT DEVELOPED THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BACK IN THE LIGHT SIXTIES EARLY SEVENTIES AND, UM IT WAS DESIGNED TO HAVE CUSTOM BUILT HOMES WITH LARGER LOTS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR BARR, NEXTCARD IZMERY. PEARSON IN OPPOSITION DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK. X CARD IS MARIANNE DOWELL AND OPPOSITION DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. DENISE BENEDICT DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. NEXT CARD.
CAROL KEMP DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. MISS SELF. WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME BACK UP? RARELY DOES SOMEONE GET TWO SHOTS AT WHEN I YOU'RE SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU, SIR. I WANTED THE COMMISSION TO KNOW THAT WE DID MEET WITH THE DEVELOPER FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH RECOMMENDATION, AND IT WAS LOVELY TO LISTEN TO
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HIS, UM PRESENTATION AND THE EXCHANGE OF INFORMATION THAT WE HAD BACK AND FORTH AS NEIGHBORS . UM HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE THAT WE BROUGHT IN. THERE WAS A LOT OF GOOD CONVERSATION, BUT AT THE END OF IT IS STILL FELT LIKE HE CAN DO BETTER. I BELIEVE AGAIN. RS 1 20 DESIGNATION FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS REALLY IMPORTANT. I FEEL LIKE THE ENTRANCE TO OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE WELL REPRESENTED, TOO. AND THE HISTORY THE RICH HISTORY THAT'S IN THAT COMMUNITY AND THOSE 34 LOTS. IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. UM THE DESIGN THAT WAS PRESENTED THIS EVENING. I DON'T THINK THAT YOU WOULD FIND IF YOU TOURED, UH , IS COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT'S THERE NOW WITH THE CUSTOM HOMES AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS EVENING IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REZONING REQUEST, AND I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU ALL DOING THE SAME. THANK YOU MISS SELF. OUR NEXT CARD IS A NET. CAREFREE UH, WAS TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. UM MY NAME IS ANNETTE CAFFREY. OLIVET TO OH TO WEST PARK DRIVE SOUTH, APPROXIMATELY THREE HOUSES DOWN FROM THE PROPOSED REZONING LOT. WHILE I HEARD ONE OF YOU MENTIONED THAT IT IS LARGER THAN TYPICAL LOTS WHERE HOMES ARE BEING BUILT ON TODAY THAT STILL DOES NOT HAVE OTHERS HAVE EXPRESSED FIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN WHICH IT WOULD BE PRESENTED THERE. UM THERE ARE SOME DANGERS THAT WERE PRESENTED LAST WEEK REGARDING THE TRAFFIC AND FLOW OF TRAFFIC THERE. AH! THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF ACCIDENTS THERE OR VERY NEAR ACCIDENTS. UM AND SO I THINK THAT WOULD JUST COMPOUND THE PROBLEM THERE. AS THE LAST LADY SPOKE, SAID ON LAKEVIEW CIRCLE, THE DUPLEXES ARE CONTAINED IN THAT ONE CALLED A SACK. AND. TWO REZONE THAT ONE LOT FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF MAXIMIZING PROFIT OPPORTUNITY FOR AN INVESTOR WHO WILL NOT BE THERE WHEN THIS IS ALL SAID, AND DONE SEEMS VERY UNFAIR TO THOSE WHO HAVE INVESTED THEIR LIVES INTO THIS COMMUNITY. UM MY HUSBAND AND I BOUGHT OUR HOME THERE IN 2009. WE HAVE MAINTAINED IT UPDATED IT, UM IT VERY WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES IN THIS AREA. AND SO I PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE. I MEAN, NO DISRESPECT TO THE INVESTOR. I UNDERSTAND WANTING TO PROFIT ON YOUR INVESTMENT. I STILL FEEL LIKE THERE IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR PROFIT BY BUILDING A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THIS ONE LOT AND UPDATING THE CURRENT HOME. THAT'S THERE. I'M ASKING YOU GUYS WERE LOOKING TO YOU GUYS AS A COMMUNITY TO MAKE A DECISION. THAT BENEFITS EVERYONE INVOLVED. THERE'S NO REASON FOR ANYONE TO LOSE THEIR INVESTMENT. WITH THIS REZONING REQUEST. THE INVESTOR CAN STILL MAKE A PROFIT IN MCKINNEY AND THAT WONDERFUL NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WOULD PREFER YOU NOT TO REZONE THIS LOT. THANK YOU.THANK YOU, MR CAFFREY. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT? UH, YES. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ISABELLA LACAYO, MON 200 WEST PARK DRIVE. I AM MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED HERE LESS THAN A YEAR AGO, AND IT TOOK US ABOUT A YEAR TO FIND OUR HOUSE. WE WANTED TO FIND SOMETHING CUSTOM. WE WANTED TO FIND SOMETHING ON A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF LAND, AND WE WANTED TO FIND SOMETHING WITH HISTORY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO FIND IN THIS SPECIFIC LOT. WE ARE IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED REZONING OF THE LAND. AND FOR A FEW REASONS ONE BEING THAT I DO NOT THINK IT IS A SAFE CURVE AS EVERYONE ELSE HAS MENTIONED, EVEN WITHIN WITHIN A FEW MONTHS OF US MOVING THERE. I PERSONALLY WAS HELPING THREE INJURED PEOPLE IN A CAR ACCIDENT ON THAT CURVE, NOT TO MENTION I HAVE ALSO ALMOST RUN INTO A FEW PEOPLE ON THAT CURVE, AND I WOULD HATE TO SEE TWO MORE PROPERTIES PUT ON WITH YOUNG FAMILIES MOVING IN LITTLE ONES RUNNING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHENEVER PEOPLE ARE SPEEDING AROUND THAT CURVE, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HAS MENTIONED.
SECONDLY, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A LOT OF HISTORY WITH A LOT OF ORIGINAL OWNERS. MANY HOMES ON THE BLOCK OR WITHIN ONE OR TWO YEARS OF BEING 50 YEAR OLD HOMES AND THEREFORE BEING ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DISTRICT WHICH I THINK MANY OF US ARE INTERESTED IN, PERHAPS PURSUING IN THE FUTURE.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. I THINK IT WOULD HELP
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PRESERVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I ALSO THINK IT WOULD HELP PROTECT US IN CONVERSATIONS LIKE THE ONE WE'RE HAVING TODAY IF IT WERE HAPPENING JUST ONE OR TWO YEARS LATER. UM, NOT TO MENTION THAT THE HISTORY OR THE HOUSE IN QUESTION ON THAT LIGHT IS ONE OF THE OLDEST HOUSES IN THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SOME PEOPLE EVEN REFERRED TO AS THE FOUNDATIONAL HOUSE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT WAS ORIGINALLY A COLD A SACK, AND NOW IT SERVES AS THE ENTRANCE AND THE FACE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ALONGSIDE BILL SMITH'S HOME. SO I THINK THE WAY THAT THAT HOUSE IS PRESENTED IS REALLY IT REPRESENTS THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US. WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN SQUEEZING COOKIE CUTTER HOMES ONTO LOTS. AND THE NAME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS CUSTOM, LARGE LOT HOMES, AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE HERE. AND I THINK THE REZONING OF THIS LAND WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP INTEGRATING THAT VALUE. AT THIS POINT, YOU'VE HEARD MULTIPLE GENERATIONS OPINIONS ON THIS, AND I THINK THAT GOES TO SPEAK TO THE UNIQUENESS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. MCKINNEY HAS TONS OF NEW CONSTRUCTION WERE VERY HIGH IN SUPPLY ON NEW CONSTRUCTION, BUT HISTORY AND HISTORIC AREAS ARE SCARCITY, AND I THINK IT'S A SCARCITY THAT MCKINNEY WAS ABLE TO BUILD ITS NAME ON SO I HOPE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING YOU GUYS TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. WE WANT THE SAME THING THAT YOU GUYS DO, WHICH IS IMPROVING THE CITY WILL MAINTAINING ITS CHARM AND ITS CULTURE, SO I HOPE THAT'S SOMETHING CONSIDERING THIS DECISION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I AM THE HOUSE. AM I ABLE TO DRAW ON THIS? THERE WE GO. I AM THAT HOUSE RIGHT THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE HERE TONIGHT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. ANYONE ELSE? SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS YOU WON'T HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM FROM THE FROM THE PODIUM.SO IF YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN PARTICIPATING IN THIS DISCUSSION, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO MAKE A MOTION CLOSED. THE PUBLIC HEARING OF EMOTION DAMAGED REMAINS. I'D CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING 2ND 2ND MEMBERS TO WATLEY. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES THE PUBLIC HEARINGS CLOSED. WHAT WE'LL DO NOW IS HAVE QUESTIONS. UH PNC MEMBERS FOR THE STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? WE'VE TAKEN NOTES. IF YOUR QUESTION FOR SOME REASON IS NOT ANSWERED AFTER THE MEETING, THE STAFF WILL BE HERE AND ABLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OR YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO CONTACT HIM TOMORROW, BUT WE WILL MAKE AN EFFORT TO HIT EVERYONE'S QUESTIONS TONIGHT BEFORE WE LOOK FOR A MOTION ON THE ON THE ITEM ITSELF. SO WITH THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT IF. ONE OF MY WHATEVER ZONING IS TRYING TO GET. BUT IF YOU COULD YOU GET RS 1 21. THE LOT THAT HE'S LOOKING FOR. RS. 1 20 IS ONE OF OUR LEGACY DISTRICTS SO THE CORRESPONDING DISTRICT WOULD BE THE R 12. SO TO BE AN R 12, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE 12,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM FOR THE LOT. UM ALTOGETHER AS DOING MATH WHILE WE WERE TALKING, UM, AT THE 1.9 FOR THE ENTIRE SITE. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 82,764 SQUARE FEET. UM, SO APPROXIMATELY SIX ISH. LOTS POTENTIALLY, HOWEVER, THAT'S NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT. THERE IS A SWATH OF FLOODPLAIN THAT WOULD NEED REVIEW, BUT I THINK THE QUESTION WAS SO WITH THE CONVERSION TO A 12,000 MINIMUM INSTEAD OF POTENTIALLY IN OUR SIX AND GIVING TWO HOUSES THERE COULD BE ZONED TO 12 AND HAVE TO 12,000 PLUS SQUARE FOOT LOTS BECAUSE THEY'RE AT 14. WHERE'S REZONING RIGHT NOW ARE SIX. LISTEN BACK UP. I MEAN, THE REAL ORIGINAL QUESTION, BILLY AND EXPLAIN IT. WELL, UM IT'S LEFT IN ONE LOT TODAY, RIGHT? WELL, HE WANTS TO SUBDIVIDE INTO TWO LOTS. BELIEVE THE OLD EXISTING HOME OUT THERE. WHAT CAN WE GET ON JUST ONE HOME ON THAT LOT? WHAT? WHAT WOULD THE ZONING BE IF IT WAS JUST A SINGLE HOME NOT TO HOMES. WOULD BE THE SAME. YEAH IF WHAT HE'S PROPOSING IS THE R SIX, WHICH REQUIRES A MINIMUM LOT AREA OF 6000 SQUARE FEET, SO IF HE'S GOING TO DO TO 6000 SQUARE FOOT, LOTS, UH FOR TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO DO THE R 12 MINIMUM
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SQUARE FOOT LOT OF 12,000. HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT. OKAY. JUST THE ONE HOME THAT ARE 12 SHOULD WORK. IT MAY BE TIGHT. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DIMENSIONS OF THAT SECOND LOT HE'S LOOKING AT. BUT THEREABOUTS, UM HE'S GOING TO DO TO 6000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO. 1 12 12,000. OKAY, THANKS. OTHER QUESTIONS. ANYONE. I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. YES, SIR. MR RODRIGUEZ, SHOULD YOU AND YOUR PARTNER COME UP. THANK YOU. AND I THINK I'VE BEEN WIDE AWAKE THROUGH THIS WHOLE THING. SO I DON'T THINK I JUST DIDN'T HEAR THIS MENTIONED. BUT YOU BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT THE EXISTING HOME. YOU'RE GOING TO REHAB IT AND SELL IT. GIVEN THAT I'M ALLOWED TO DO THIS, IF NOT THEN SIX HOMES. COME BACK AGAIN WITH PROPOSED SIX HOME AND DESTROY IT WOULD BE AN OPTION. IF THIS DOESN'T GET PAST I CANNOT JUST DO ONE PROPERTY. IT WON'T MAKE SENSE. SO I'M TRYING TO PRESERVE THE HOUSE AS IS AND I'M TRYING TO DO ANYTHING I CAN TO LEAVE THE HOUSE AND IT IS AND REHAB. IT. AND BUILD THOSE TO BUILD ON THAT VACANT PLANT. BUT IF THAT DOESN'T PASS TODAY, I MEAN, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO TONE BOARD. OKAY, SO MY QUESTION WAS ON THE VACANT LOT. THE TWO HOMES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD. ARE THOSE GONNA BE FOR SALE OR FOR RENT FOR SEVEN FOR SO THAT WAS MY QUESTION FOR SALE . SORRY I UNDERSTAND. THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT 2400 SQUARE FEET . I THINK SOMEONE ASKED ME EARLIER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS, BUT THERE IS ABOUT 2400 SQUARE FEET. THAT AND I'D LIKE TO MENTION SOMETHING. I KNOW IT'S JUST COMMENTS THAT WERE AND I UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY THE CONCERN ABOUT THE CITIZENS IN THAT PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD AND I RESPECT THAT, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING TO COMPROMISE AND ENHANCED AND I GET IT, THAT CORNER HAS BEEN VACANT FOR A WHILE AND ANYTHING THAT GOES IN THE CORNER IS GOING TO DRAW YOU INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. RIGHT NOW. YOU GOT DUPLEXES RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU COMING OFF OF VIRGINIA PARKWAY. DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF YOU. DUPLEXES TO YOUR RIGHT. THE COLDEST SIDE DUPLEXES . I CAN'T DO NOTHING ABOUT THOSE . OKAY I DIDN'T CREATE THOSE. WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANYTHING WITH THOSE THE TRAFFIC ON THAT AREA. EVEN IF WE GO TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE THAT GOING TO FIX THAT CURB AN ISSUE WITH ACCIDENTS OR ANYTHING GOING ON AROUND THAT CURVE. WE HAVE CREATED THE DESIGN IN ORDER TO CREATE ADDITIONAL PARKING IN FRONT OF THE HOME SO WE WOULD NOT CREATE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OFF STREET PARKING CAN'T STOP PEOPLE FROM PARKING OFF IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY.NEITHER COULD THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD PICK. IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ANYTIME YOU HAVE AN EVENT, THE PARTY A WEDDING OR DINNER, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PARK IN THE STREETS. CAN'T WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT CORNER. IMPOSSIBLE I MEAN, I THINK IT'S UP TO THE JURISDICTION IN PUBLIC WORKS TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. I THINK WE'VE BEEN VERY, VERY TRANSPARENT AND COMING IN AND APPROACHING THE ZONING COMMISSION AND FALLING WITHIN THE GUIDELINES THAT THE JURISDICTION CREATED. IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE ZONING PLAN AND APPLYING AND PLEADING OUR CASE.
FOR THIS REZONING. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A MILLION BUCKS. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR DEVELOPMENT MONEY. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR TIFF . WE'RE ASKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY, AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WE HAVE TAKEN ALL THE ALL THE ALL THE COMMENTS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN CONSIDERATION AND BELIEVE ME, IT'S WE'RE NOT OVERLOOKING ANYTHING. I WISH I COULD GO BACK AND CAN ADDRESS SOME OTHER THINGS WITH THEM. AND YET MAYBE WE CAN MAKE THE LOT THE HOT AESTHETICALLY. I CAN MAKE THE HOUSES LOOK SIMILAR TO WHAT'S WHAT'S IN THE AREA. MAYBE THAT'LL HELP EASE A LITTLE ATTENTION. BUT YOU KNOW, AS GOD IS MY WISDOM, SO I THINK WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO COME UP TO THE COMMISSION AND PLEAD OUR CASE. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE COMMUNITY. WE DO HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH VIDEO OVER THE COMMITTEE. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT, WE CAN PLAY IT WITH DROVE THROUGH THE VERGINA PARKWAY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TOWN HOME PAST THE HOUSE AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS. WE CAN PLAY IT IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD IDEA AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY THANK YOU.
JUST ASKING ME I THINK YOU MADE A COMMENT A SECOND AGO. WE RECOMMEND DENIAL. BUT. SAY GO BUILD ONE HOME ON THAT LOT. YOU'RE SAYING YOU CAN'T DO THAT FINANCIALLY? I CANNOT. SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE A STEP. EVEN IF YOU RECOMMEND DENIAL. THAT'S NOT GOING TO FIX. EVEN IF YOU RECKON THAT RULE. IT'S NOT GOING TO FIX THE PROBLEM BECAUSE HOW IS THAT GOING TO MAKE THE TRAFFIC GO AWAY? HOW IS GOING TO MAKE THAT CURVE? NOT BECOME SO DANGEROUS AND WE CAN'T CONTROL THOSE THINGS. YEAH EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. I MEAN, MY GOAL SINCE THE BEGINNING WAS TO
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PRESERVE THAT HOUSE BECAUSE THE OWNER WHEN THEY SOLD IT TO US, THEY EXPLAINED TO US THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOW IT CAME ABOUT. HOW IT EVERY HOUSE WAS BUILT BY DOING SUBDIVISION OF THE LAND.HE OWNED THE WHOLE LAND AND THE WHOLE NINE YARDS. WE'RE JUST DOING ONE LESS OF THE VISION OF THE WHOLE THING. THAT'S ALL WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AND PRESERVING THE HOUSE. I WANT TO PRESERVE THE HOUSE. RIGHT IN QUESTION. THIS TRACK HAS LESS THAN TWO ACRES. IS THAT CORRECT? YES LITTLE LESS THAN TWO X 1.9 UNUSUAL SHAPE TRACKED OFF BECAUSE IT WAS SUBDIVIDED THROUGH THE HAIRS IN THE LOCATION OF THE EXISTING HOUSE MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT ANGLE THAT IT SITS. SO THERE'S A LOT OF CIRCUMSTANCES INVOLVED THAT FROM A TECHNICAL ASPECT AND LOOKING AT IT IT IT'S IT IS AN AWKWARD SHAPED LOT. IF THE NEIGHBOR TALKING ABOUT HISTORICAL VALUE, AND THEY VALUE THE HISTORIC OF THE HOUSE, I AM TRYING TO PRESERVE THAT. ZONING WILL ALLOW ME AS STAFF SAID TO BUILD SIX HOUSES THAT ARE DESTROYED AT HOME, WHICH FINANCIALLY WILL MAKE MORE SENSE TO US. BUT THAT WAS NOT OUR FIRST THOUGHT. WE DON'T WANT TO DESTROY THE HOUSE. WE WANT TO FIX THE HOUSE WANT TO HAVE A FAMILY TO COME TO THE HOUSE AND LIVE IN THE HOUSE OR WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS THAT EMPTY LAND TO BE BUILT ON? THANK YOU. OTHER ANYONE ELSE? HAVE A QUESTION. YOUR YOUR PLAN ALL ALONG HAS BEEN TO, UH TO GET THIS GET ZONING CHANGE BUILT TWO HOMES. AND THEN SELL ALL THREE. CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT YOU ENVISIONED. HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDERED, UM DIVIDING THE 80 80,000 SOME ODD SQUARE FEET OF SPACE INTO THREE ROUGHLY EQUAL SIZED LOTS AND DOING IT THAT WAY. THE ONLY REASON WITH HIM BECAUSE ORIGINALLY WE DIDN'T WANT TO DESTROY AFTER THE OWNER TOLD US THE HISTORY BEHIND THAT HOUSE. WE DON'T WANT TO DESTROY THE HOUSE. WE WANTED TO REHAB THE HOUSE. WE THOUGHT WE CAN BRING IT UP. KEEP IT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN NEXT TO THAT EMPTY LOT. THERE'S MUCH OF TOWN HOMES, SO IT'S REALLY NOT GOING TO AFFECT THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT'S WHY ORIGINAL THINKING WE DON'T WANT TO GO AND BUILD. YOU KNOW, NEW BUILT CLOSE TO THE OTHER HOUSES , SO THAT'S WHY WE THOUGHT IT MAKES MORE SENSE. AND I ALSO BELIEVE THERE'S A FLOODPLAIN ISSUE TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD WOULDN'T NOT REALLY MAKES SENSE FOR US TO GO IN THAT ROUND. SO I MEAN, THERE'S AN AWKWARD SITUATION BECAUSE OF THE TRACK OF LAND AND THE MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES. THAT INVOLVED WITH THAT TRACK OF LAND. I PURCHASED THIS SUMMER, YOU UNDER CONTRACT TO BUY IT. SIR HAVE YOU PURCHASED THE HOME OR YOU UNDER CONTRACT? I HAVE OWNED IT FOR A FEW MONTHS NOW. ANYONE ELSE? OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING BACK. THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE A COMMENT. UM TO ME THAT APPEARS THAT THE INTERESTING THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO REZONE TO R SIX. THAT'S REALLY A BUFFERING ZONE. TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE COMMERCIAL OUT ON VIRGINIA. AND OF COURSE, THE TRACT IS VERY UNUSUAL TRYING TO SQUEEZE WHAT THEY'RE DOING ONTO THAT ARE SIX. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY. CASE 39 C. THREE I WOULD JUST APPRECIATE A LITTLE FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE THE MOTION.
YOU WANT. LET SOME OTHERS WAY IN DARK. ANYONE ELSE? YEAH JEOPARDY OF GETTING THIS DIVIDED IN THE SIX LOTS. IT'S ONE THING TO TAKING EFFECT. THE OTHER. PART IS THAT, UM, THIS IS ON THE BORDER OF THE SUBDIVISION ITSELF. YOU KNOW IF THIS WAS BEING ASKED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OUR TWENTIES THAT THEY COULD BE A QUICK NOTE FROM EVERYBODY UP HERE. UM, BUT IT IS ON THE EDGE.
COMMERCIAL TO THE SIDE OR THE NORTH, AND IT'S GOT TOWN HOMES. THE OTHER PART UNDERSTAND THE PEOPLE'S PASSIONS FOR THEIR HOMES AND THE SUBDIVISION. I DON'T THINK UM, THESE TWO HOMES WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM ANY VALUE OF THE HOME'S OVERALL. AND I DON'T THINK NEIGHBORHOODS MORE THAN JUST TWO MORE LOTS THAT. THE PASSION WITH THE PEOPLE SPOKE WAS GREAT BECAUSE THEY LOVE THEIR NEIGHBORS. BUT THIS DOESN'T DESTROY LOVING YOUR NEIGHBORS ONE WAY, THE OTHER AS FAR AS THAT GOES I THINK THE ENTRANCE TO THIS STARTS AROUND THAT CURVE WITH THAT HOME THAT EXISTS THERE NOW. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT. STAY THERE. AS FAR AS THAT GOES THE DANGER OF THE
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CURB. I WOULD SUGGEST SPEAKING WITH THE CITY TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT OR ENGINEERING ABOUT MAYBE A CURBS OF SPEED BUMP OR SOMETHING WITHIN THEIR TO SLOW THAT DOWN. I'M GONNA GO HOME AND GO THROUGH THREE CURBS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH CARS PARKED ON THE SIDE. THAT'S JUST WHAT A NEIGHBORHOOD IS TO SLOW THINGS DOWN. UM I DON'T KNOW WHICH NEIGHBORS LIKE TO DRIVE FASTER THERE, BUT I FEEL FOR YOU THERE. AT THE END. I DON'T THINK THIS WILL TAKE AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK IT'S BLOCKS OFF THE COMMERCIAL. IT'S ANOTHER PETITION BETWEEN THE TOWN HOMES.I WOULD SUPPORT THE APPLICANTS REQUEST BECAUSE I'D RATHER SEE THAT THAN SIX LOTS IN THAT OTHER HOUSE GONE. NO, WE MAY HAVE SOME OTHER COMMENTS YOU WANT TO PULL THAT DOWN. NO. I JUST THINK IT TRYING TO PUT TOO MUCH ON THE ONE PROPERTY THAT'S UNUSUAL SHAPE, AND THAT BUFFERING PROTECTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT IS AN ENTRANCE. I WOULD AGREE. SO WE GOT A FEW DISCOVERY MOTION. I'M JUST TRYING TO CLEAN UP THE MOTION. SO WE'VE GOT SOME OTHERS THAT WANT TO MAKE COMMENTS WHERE YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION. LET OTHERS COMMENT, OR DO YOU WANT TO TRY TO GET A SECOND FOR YOUR MOTION? THEY MAKE A COMMENT. I WITHDRAW . OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I CONCUR WITH COMMISSION MAN'S EYE ON 99% OF WHAT HE SAID, UM, COME INTO IT. YOU GOTTA DUPLEX STRAIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU WHEN YOU COME OFF OF VIRGINIA ISN'T AFFECTING ANY VALUES TODAY, THOSE HOMES ALL LIKE YOU SIT THERE. UM. THE INVESTOR HAS TAKEN A BIG RISK, RIGHT? HE'S BROUGHT INTO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND TRYING TO GET THIS THING REZONED TO MAKE MONEY AND AS AN INVESTMENT YEAH , A LOT NEEDS TO BE. IT'S AN OVERSIZED LOT. DRIVEN IT PROBABLY FOUR TIMES IN THE LAST YEAR. I ALWAYS WONDERED WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THIS LOT. MY ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT I THINK YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF TWO HOMES, I'D RATHER SEE WARN HIM THERE, BUT I THINK SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE THERE. UM IT ACTUALLY HELPED BUFFER SOME OF THAT COMMERCIAL THAT ADJACENT TO VIRGINIA.
BRIAN'S POINTS ARE ALL COMMISSION. BANZAI POINTS ARE ALL VALID. ONLY DELTA I HAVE IS, I'D RATHER SEE YOU SINGLE FAMILY HOME THIS ONE HOME HERE ON THIS LOT, THEN, TOO. I WOULD CONCUR WITH THAT THAT IT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER DECISION THAT HAVING THE 14,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT I THINK IT'S JUST PUT BEFORE US THE POTENTIAL OF SIX LOTS OR THREE LOTS, AND THAT'S SIX AND LOSING THE HOUSE. THAT WOULD BE WHY WOULD I WOULD I WOULD STILL PREFER ON THIS. WELL. WE'LL GET TO YOU, CAITLIN. HOLD THAT THOUGHT. ONE CLARIFYING POINT TO GET TO THE SIX SLOTS THEY WOULD HAVE TO ZONE TWO R 12. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO GET TO THE SIXTH LOTS. I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT R E D ONE STILL AS RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT SO THAT CAN BE THE ONE ACRE LOT SO OKAY. THE SIXTH IS IF THEY CAME BACK FOR OUR 12, SO WE'RE OKAY. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU E. MORE OPEN. TO THE COMMISSION LOOKING AT A ZONE OF INSTEAD OF R SIX R 12 ON THAT PIECE IS FOR A SECOND GOES. SO CAITLYN, HOLD HOLD ON A MINUTE. SO LET'S GO THROUGH THIS PROCEDURE, SO IN ORDER, WE PICKED UP SOME VOLUME ON MULTIPLE HOUSES ON THE PROPERTY IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, WHAT WOULD NEED TO OCCUR? YES SO IF THEY WANTED TO SUBDIVIDE TO THE APPROXIMATE SIX TO ALLOW FOR THE 12,000 SQUARE FOOT PER LOT, THAT WOULD BE THE R 12 SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AGAIN BEFORE Y'ALL FOR AN R 12 REQUEST , IT WOULD BE ANOTHER REZONING REQUEST. ANOTHER NOTIFICATION GOES OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREA THAT'S CORRECT DIFFERENT ZONING REQUEST CORRECT DECISION WE COULD MAKE AT THIS MOMENT. THE DECISION BEFORE YOU IS WHETHER OR NOT TO REZONE THE 0.33 TO R SIX AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THE LOT TO THE 43.
OKAY? UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING TO WHEREVER IT PLEASE OUT TO TODAY. CAN THEY DO ANYTHING ELSE BY TEARING THAT DOWN HOME DOWN TO THE ON THE BACK AND BUILD ONE HOME OR COULD THEY BUILD MULTIPLE HOMES OR SINCE IT'S LESS THAN TWO ACRES. I BELIEVE THAT THEY COULD DO THE ONE HOME SINCE THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE 43,560 SQUARE FEET PER RESIDENTIAL ESTATE LOTS. THEY COULD ONLY DO ONE OKAY? OTHER COMMENTS, ANYONE. THAT CURVE IS I'M SORRY, CHARLES. THAT CURVE IS A SAFETY CONCERN. AH UM AND EVERYONE HAS DRIVEN IT IN SOME FORM OR FASHION. BUT THAT THAT
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CURB IS A CONCERN WITH THE TWO DRIVEWAY SHOWN. COMING OFF OF THAT CURVE THAT JUST SIMPLY WOULD ADD TO ADD TO THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM EVERYBODY. I WOULD RATHER SEE TWO HOMES IN THERE. IT'S KIND OF BUFFERING. FOR THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. AND JUST DOWN THE STREET. WE JUST APPROVES AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. AND WE TALKED ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING SO THIS IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME MORE HOUSING IN SO. I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF PASSING THIS WITNESS STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. ANYONE ELSE? WHO HASN'T HAD A SHOT AT THIS. ALRIGHT, EMOTIONS. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION AGAIN TO DENY ACT CASE. 39 C THREE EMOTION BY MR LOBO, TOO. I DIDN'T EITHER.REQUEST APPLICANT REQUEST, UM, FOR TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY ATOM NUMBER 23 DAYS. 0039 Z. THREE ONE OF OUR WEST SOUTHWEST PORK DRIVE. SECOND TAKEN BY MR WOODRUFF. ANY DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION IS TO DENY. OKAY? THIS CAME UP. VERY GOOD.
THE MOTION CARRIES BY VOTE OF FIVE IN FAVOR AND TWO AGAINST THE MOTION. AH YES, DENIED, MS ARNOLD DECIDED WAS SCHEDULED TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL. CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THE APPLICANTS? OPTIONS PLEASE, MA'AM. SURE HAPPY TO SO WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THIS ITEM WILL STILL GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION, BUT IT WILL REQUIRE A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE BY THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, WHICH MEANS THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE SIX OF THE SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS TO APPROVE IT FOR IT TO ACTUALLY PASS. OR IS THERE ANOTHER NOTIFICATION SENT OUT REGARDING THAT CITY COUNCIL MEETING? WE DO NOT SEND OUT ANOTHER PROPERTY OWNER NOTICE IT WILL BE PUBLISHED AS A LEGAL NOTICE IN THE MCKINNEY COURIER GAZETTE, AND I BELIEVE THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND WE TYPICALLY WITH THAT FINAL MOTION, READ THE DATE THAT IT IS GOING TO CITY COUNCIL. I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I'LL TAKE IT FROM HERE, SO THE AUTUMN IS GOING TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION AT THE SEPTEMBER 1920 23 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SO SHOULD THE APPLICANT CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD. THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER THE 19TH. 2023 AND AT THAT MEETING, IT WILL REQUIRE SIX OUT OF SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS VOTING TO APPROVE IT IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE APPROVED. SO WITH THAT, KATE, WHO'S NEXT? WHO'S FREE TO ANSWER THAT? A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS? AND SOMEBODY, OKAY? WE'LL GET YOUR QUESTION ANSWERED. WE'RE GOING
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on Certain Amendments to Chapter 150, entitled “Unified Development Code,” of the Code of Ordinances, City of McKinney, Texas to correct typographical errors and make nonsubstantive editorial changes to Article 1 (General Provisions) and particularly to Sections 101 (Title), 102 (Purpose), 106B (Specific Use Permits), 108 (Maintenance, Enforcement, and Penalties), 110 (Administrative Authority), Article 2 (Zoning Regulations) and particularly to Sections 201 (Administration), 203A (Standard Procedures), 203B (Annexation), 203C (Zoning Procedures), 203D (Protest Procedures), 203E (Plan and Permit Procedures), 203F (Appeal Procedures), 203G (Flexibility and Relief Procedures), 204 (Zoning Districts), 205 (Use Regulations), 206A (Landscaping) 206C (Screening), 206D (Commercial Garbage/Recycling Containers and Enclosures), 206E (Vehicle Parking and Loading), 206F (Architectural Standards), 206G (Multi-Family Residential Site Design), 206H (Communication Antennas, Support Structures, and Satellite Dishes), Appendix 2A (Approved Plant List), and Article 8 (Terms and Definitions) particularly to Section 802 (Definitions), Make Substantive Changes to Sections: 108B (Maintenance), 110B1 (Board of Adjustment), 201C4 (Continuing Legal Nonconformity), 203A4 (Public Notice), 203D (Protest Procedures), 203E2 (Landscape Plan), 203E6 (Certificate of Appropriateness), 203F1 (Administrative Appeal), 203G3 (Variance), 204B3 (Zoning District Correspondence), 204I (TR1.8 - Townhome Residential), 204W (AP - Airport), 204BB (TMN - Traditional McKinney Neighborhood), 204EE1 (Building Height), 205B5 (Table of Uses), 205F (Non-Residential Uses) for Airports, Car Washes, and Day Care Centers, 205G2 (Accessory Uses Definitions and Standards), 205I3 (Food Trucks, Operation Sites, and Food Truck Courts), 206A4 (Planting Requirements), 206A5 (Site-Specific Landscape Standards), 206C3 (Screening Requirements), 206E3 (Parking Calculations), 206E4 (Parking Modifications and Reductions), 206E5 (On-site Parking Design and Pavement), Appendix 2A (Approved Plant List), Appendix 2B (McKinney Town Center MTC), and 802 Definitions, Establishing Sections 201E (Existing Sites Impacted by the Acquisition of Right-of-Way) and 206I (Food Trucks, Food Truck Operation Sites, and Food Truck Courts) in Article 2 (Zoning Regulations) of Chapter 150, entitled “Unified Development Code,” of the Code of Ordinances, City of McKinney, Texas, in addition to Establishing a New Article 4 named “Tree Preservation” and Renumbering Current Articles 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8, respectively, as New Articles 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 to Chapter 150 (Unified Development Code) to Include the New Article 4, and Deleting Sections 203E.3, “Tree Preservation Plan,” 203E.4, “Tree Permit,” and 206B, “Tree Preservation,” from Article 2 (Zoning Regulations) and Renumbering and Relocating Such Sections 203E.3, 203E.4, and 206B, into the New Article 4 Named “Tree Preservation” to Chapter 150 (Unified Development Code)]
TO MOVE ON IN OUR AGENDA. WE'VE GOT SOMEONE COMING BACK FOR YOU AND OVER HERE. THE NEXT ITEM. 23 AARON, YOU'VE GOT EVERYTHING ELSE. UH, 23 DAYS. 0001 M PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER CERTAIN AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 1 50 UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE IN THOSE SECTIONS LISTED IN THE AGENDA ITEM HEADING SORRY. NOTHING. TASTES FUNNY, LADIES. IT'S LIKE THE LONGEST CAPTION EVER. AND OTHERS AS NOTED.YOU STILL CAN'T YOU STILL HAVE THAT COURAGE? GIVE EVERYONE JUST A FEW MINUTES TO SHUFFLE OUT BEFORE WE GET STARTED. 36. THANK YOU. FOR YOU. ALL
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RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. CHAIRMAN COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE WITH YOU TONIGHT. I'M HERE BEFORE YOU TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO THE ZONING REGULATIONS AGAIN. MY NAME IS AARON BLOXHAM. I'M PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. AND SO REALLY TONIGHT. WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE ZONING REGULATIONS THAT ZONING REGULATION AMENDMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SINCE THE ADOPTION OF THE CODE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND THERE. THE NEW CODE WAS ADOPTED ON NOVEMBER 15TH 2022. I THINK IT ROUGHLY QUESTION ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE MONTHS NOW THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING IN THE CODE. WE'VE BEEN CONTINUALLY MONITORING HOW IT'S BEEN PERFORMING. AND NOW WE HAVE SOME, UH AMENDMENTS TO HELP IMPROVE OR CONTINUE IMPROVING OUR ZONING REGULATIONS. SO FOR THIS FIRST ITEM. THE AMENDMENTS ARE REALLY BROKEN OUT INTO TWO TYPES OF AMENDMENTS. WE HAVE ARE FINE TUNING AMENDMENTS, WHICH ARE REALLY THINGS TO FIX TYPOS AND REFERENCES PROVIDE EDITORIAL CLARITY ON SOME OF THE ITEMS, IMPROVE USABILITY AND DO SOME ORGANIZATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS. OTHERS ARE JUST SLIGHT ORGANIZATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS. THE SECOND. TYPE OF AMENDMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON TONIGHT IS MODIFICATIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS. THESE ARE FOR PROCEDURAL IMPROVEMENTS, MODIFYING SOME OF THE USE REGULATIONS AND ADJUSTING SOME OF OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.WALK THROUGH THOSE IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. UM, BUT I WILL. I MENTIONED THAT I AM ONLY GOING TO KIND OF HIT ON THE HIGHLIGHT. OR THE MOST NOTABLE ONES ON THAT . I'M NOT GOING TO COVER EVERY SINGLE THING THAT I HAVE LISTED IN THE SLIDES, BUT YOU CAN FIND ALL OF THOSE IN THE RED LINE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS. THERE IS QUITE A BIT BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. IF I DON'T SPEAK TO SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON FEEL FREE TO STOP ME OR ASKED ME AT THE END OF PRINCE PRESENTATION, WE CAN KIND OF GO THROUGH. SO FOR THE FINE TUNING AMENDMENTS. HERE'S ALL THIS SECTIONS AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A LOT OF SMALL CORRECTIONS AND UPDATES MOST OF THAT REFERENCE UP UPDATES BASED ON SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED.
UM BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE SOME CLARIFICATIONS WITHIN EACH OF THOSE SECTIONS. NOW TIME TO JUMP TO THE MEAT OF THIS FOR OUR PROCEDURAL AMENDMENTS. JUST KIND OF WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS. WE ARE ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS WITHIN SOME OF THE PROCEDURES LIKE FOR THE LANDSCAPE PLAN TO ADD THE SCALE REQUIREMENT. UM YOU KNOW, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE CLARIFIED THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPEAL, APPLICABILITY, NOTICING AND PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS. WE KIND OF MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS WITHIN THEIR QUESTION FOR YOU ON THAT. PROCEDURE STAFF. OKAY? THE WHEN IT GOES TO, UH BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. IT CHANGED FROM FOUR VOTES TO 75. WRITE IT BASED ON THE NUMBER. IT WAS ALWAYS MEANT TO BE 75% PER STATE LAW. WHEN WE WERE CHANGING AROUND THINGS, SOMEONE'S THE. THE DIRECTOR AT THE TIME, I MENTIONED THAT IT WAS FOUR BECAUSE THERE WAS ONLY FIVE PEOPLE IN THE QUORUM, AND SO WE PUT FOUR BUT INSTEAD OF DOING THE NUMBER FOUR BECAUSE THAT COULD CHANGE DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS THAT YOU HAVE, WE DECIDED TO CHANGE THAT BACK TO 75% TO MAKE THAT IN LINE WITH STATE LAW. OKAY, SO IT ROUNDS UP THEN. YES OKAY. OKAY JUST A SIDE NOTE. I. I LOST MY NOTES. FROM WHAT? I READ IT LAST NIGHT.
SOMEWHERE IN THERE, IT READS INSTEAD OF NEXT ANY XT READS NEST S T AND SERVICE. DO A GOOGLE SEARCH FOR THE NEST AND YOU'LL FIND FIND THAT I HAVE LOST WHERE I MADE THAT NOTE.
OKAY? YEAH WE CAN CORRECT THAT MAKE IT ANY ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS? UM THEY NEED TO BE CORRECTED. TRULY READ IT, SO I MEAN, YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF ME. I AM PROUD THAT ON READING 600 PAGES D HE DIDN'T GET THROUGH. SIX. YEAH. RED LINES. OKAY? AH MOVING ON WITHIN THE DISTRICT AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAVE SHOWN MADE SOME CHANGES, REMOVING SOME AIRNESS LANGUAGE FROM THE TOWN HOME DISTRICT, SOMETHING THAT WAS LEFT OVER FROM THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE. ALSO WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES BIG, PROBABLY THE MOST NOTABLE AND LARGE ONE IS ADDING THE RED RESIDENTIAL JASON'S ADJACENCY DESIGNED EXCEPTION FOR PROPERTIES WITHIN THE T M. N. THE TRADITIONAL MCKINNEY NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT. UM WE NOTICED AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT THAT WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO
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BE CAUSING SOME PROBLEMS WITH SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES AND THEIR ABILITY TO BUILD SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON SOME OF THOSE LOTS IN THOSE AREAS, SO WE HAVE ADDED THAT EXCEPTION IN UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE LEFT OUT IN ALL OF OUR STUFF. LAST TIME WAS THE REGULATING PLAN FOR THE MCKINNEY TOWN CENTER, SO WE'VE ADDED THAT BACK IN. IT WAS ALWAYS MENTIONED AND IT WAS EXPLAINED, BUT THE ACTUAL DIAGRAM ITSELF WAS NOT IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE ADDED THAT BACK. SOME OF THE CHANGES FOR THE USE REGULATIONS. UM BIG ONES, AND I'M GOING TO KIND OF TOUCH ON FOOD, TRUCK COURTS AND OPERATION SITES RIGHT NOW. IN OUR EXISTING ORDINANCE, THEY'RE ALL TOGETHER AS ONE ITEM FOOD TRUCKS, FOOD, TRUCK COURTS AND FOOD TRUCK OPERATION SITES. WE'VE KIND OF SPLIT THAT INTO TWO. TWO SEPARATE USES WITHIN THE USE CHART, AND ALSO THERE WAS ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE AND STANDARDS UNDERNEATH UNDERNEATH THE USE REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY MOVED INTO ITS OWN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS SECTION TO KIND OF OUTLINE HOW EACH OF THE SITES WORK. WHAT APPLIES TO A FOOD TRUCK, WHICH REGULATIONS APPLY TO AN OPERATION SIDE IN WHICH APPLIED TO A FOOD TRUCK COURT, SO IT'S VERY CLEAR THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN PREVIOUSLY WAS A LITTLE HARD TO UNDERSTAND, SO WE KIND OF MADE THAT CHANGE. FOR CAR WASHES. WE HAVE ADDED A DISTANCE REQUIREMENT WITH THE CHANGE THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY. CAR WASHES WERE AN ISSUE P, UM AND EVEN WITH AN S U P YOU HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAD COME IN AND REZONED AND BUILT CAR WASHES IN MCKINNEY WITH OUR NEW REGULATION, WE HAD ACTUALLY REMOVED THAT AND INCLUDED THE HALF MILE BUFFER BETWEEN TO TRY AND MAYBE REDUCE SOME OF THAT AND NOT HAVING OVERCROWDING OF THOSE. UM BUT WITH THAT, AND BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE LAX, UM THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF CAR WASHES THAT WE'VE SEEN COME IN FOR PROPOSED THAT ARE RIGHT UP AGAINST RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS OR FUTURE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. AND TO AVOID KIND OF SOME OF THAT IN THE FUTURE. WE'VE TRY TO CLOSE THAT GAP BY PROPOSING THIS 200 FT DISTANCE REQUIREMENT BETWEEN THE CAR WASH AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. GIVE YOU HOPE BUNCH OTHER USES. YOU CAN APPLY THAT TO AS FAR AS I'M MM. I'M SORRY. THIS IS WHAT WE LOOKED AT SO FAR. AH! LAST ONE I'M GOING TO TOUCH ON ON THIS PAGE IS ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE WHEN WE UPDATED IT. THERE WAS AN ALLOWANCE FOR ANY 1400 SQUARE FOOT LOT TO BE ABLE TO DO UP TO 700 SQUARE FEET. UM, THAT KIND OF LEFT US OPEN TO SOME LOOSE INTERPRETATIONS OF BUILDING SIMILAR SIZED HOUSES ON LOTS AND WITH THAT WE'VE KIND OF COME BACK IN MADE THE ADJUSTMENT. TO GO TO 75% OF THE HOME. ON ANYTHING THAT'S ON 1200 SQUARE FOOT LOT OR LESS. SO THAT KIND OF GIVES THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE IN SOME INSTANCES, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF YOUR LOT IN THE HOME. BUT IT ALSO KEEPS AN ACCESSORY DWELLING USED UNIT. UH YOU KNOW, LESS THAN THE PRIMARY IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS ON THERE. WHILE WE WERE ON THIS PAGE. I WANT TO GET ON MY SOAPBOX. I APPRECIATE THE CAR WASH AND THE DISTANCE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE CONSIDERATION OF WHAT THE INTENSITY OF A CAR WASHES THE NOISE THAT IT BRINGS AND SUCH, AND THAT SHOULDN'T BE NEXT TO SOMEONE'S HOME. I WISH WE'D CARRY THAT, FURTHER WITH OTHER USES. THAT CAN BE 24 HOURS.SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. AS FAR AS NEXT RESIDENTIAL, UM, FROM BURGER SHOPS THAT ARE OPEN 24 HOURS TO SEE STORES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. CONCERNS ME THAT WE'RE TAKING AWAY THE 300 DISTANCE GAS PUMPS FROM THE DAYCARES. MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU KNOW A DAYCARE CAN'T GET WITHIN A GAS STATION TO GAS STATION CAN GET WITHIN A DAYCARE AND THIS COMES BACK TO JUST WHETHER WE THINK FUEL IS DANGEROUS OR NOT, BUT IT'S NOT THAT FOR ME, IT'S STILL THE INTENSITY OF USE. A QUICK TRIP SHOULDN'T PLAN ITSELF NEXT TO A DAYCARE. I THINK WE SHOULD BEEN UPGRADING. THAT TO IT INSTEAD OF TAKING AWAY WE DON'T NEED A QUICK TRIP LOCATING THEIR CHILDREN OR CHILDREN ARE BEING DROPPED OFF OR PICKED UP AND WE DON'T NEED THAT EITHER WAY ON THE DAYCARE, AND IT'S STILL ABOUT SEPARATING THE INTENSITY OF USE COMPARED TO ANOTHER INTENSITY OF USE OR THE DANGER THAT OUR PROPOSALS FROM THAT WHETHER IT'S THE RESIDENTIAL WITH CAR WASH OR WHETHER IT'S CHILDREN NEXT TO GAS STATIONS AND BIG TRUCKS. OR LAWN CARE WORKERS, EVERYBODY ELSE THAT COMES THROUGH QUIKTRIP IN A HURRY TO FUEL AND GO. IT'S NOT THE SAFEST PART. I THINK FOR CHILDREN SO I WOULD RATHER SEE THAT UPGRADED, THEN REMOVED. UM . HE HAD MENTIONED THE REASON THAT WE REMOVED THIS IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE THINK THAT FUEL IS DANGEROUS ANYMORE. BUT IN THE MOTION AT THE END OF THE ITEM, YOU CAN PROPOSE SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR A CHANGE IN THAT AMENDMENT. IF YOU WANTED TO SEE
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SOMETHING DIFFERENT, I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT MY TIME IS SHORT AND THAT'S CITY COUNCIL'S JOB IF THEY PREFER TO DO THAT, SO OKAY. I WOULD SIMPLY PASS MY OPINION ON. COULD YOU BACK UP TO THAT SAME SCREEN TO INTO BRONZE POINT. WHAT WAS THE THOUGHT PROCESS IN MAKING THAT CHANGE AND REMOVING THE 300 FT DISTANCE. WHERE DID THAT PICK UP ENOUGH MOMENTUM TO MAKE IT TO THE FINAL. YEAH SO WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF DAYCARES THAT HAD CALLED IN WITH CONCERNS OVER, YOU KNOW, NOT BEING ABLE TO LOCATE CLOSER TO GAS STATION THAN THAT, BUT HAVING THE VICE VERSA ALLOWED RIGHT? A GAS STATION COULD MOVE CLOSER WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING INTO AND DID SOME RESEARCH. AND TALKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FINDING OUT WHAT STATE LAW REQUIREMENTS ARE . WE ALSO LOOKED AT SOME OF OUR SISTER CITIES AND WHAT THEY ALLOW, AND, UM THERE IS NOT, UH , NONE OF OUR SISTER CITIES HAVE THAT SAME REQUIREMENT. THERE ARE SOME REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE FIRE CODE THAT YOU KNOW, UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS OR ABOVE GROUND STORAGE TANKS ARE 150 FT. THEY HAD 250 FT FROM MANY RESIDENTIAL UM SO THAT IS STILL IN THE CODE AND STILL WOULD BE THERE TO KIND OF ADD SOME OF THAT PROTECTION. BUT THAT'S WHERE THAT KIND OF STARTED AND HOW THAT EVOLVED AND SO AT THE TIME WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS, REMOVING THAT HAVING THOSE OTHER SAFETY FEATURES IN UM, IN THE FIRE CODE KIND OF PROTECTING AGAINST THAT.WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO REMOVE IT. NO. I WOULD BEG TO DIFFER, I THINK YOU KNOW. CAR WASH, YOU ADD 200. GAS STATION AND DAYCARE. YOU TAKE AWAY 300 SO UM LIKE SOMEONE TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT. I COULD EITHER BE A RECOMMENDATION OR COMMENT TO COUNSEL OR TO YOU, OR JUST TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT. YOU AGREE WITH THAT? I APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY NO MORE INTERRUPTIONS. AARON. NO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. OKAY? MOVING ON. TO WALK THROUGH . THERE ARE A NUMBER OF STANDARDS AND REGULATIONS THAT WOULD KIND OF UPDATED, UH I'M JUST GOING TO AGAIN HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ADDED BACK IN WAS A DROUGHT CONDITION EXCEPTION DURING PLANTING SEASONS, YOU KNOW, TO ALLOW FOR THAT TO BE POSTPONED. UM WITHIN THE SCREENING REQUIREMENT. WANTED TO ADD SOME LANGUAGE FOR A WALL MAINTENANCE EASEMENT TO BE INCLUDED. WHEN YOU'RE DOING SITE PLANS AND PLATZ TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE SCREENING WALL AROUND DEVELOPMENTS RIGHT NOW. WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE THAT AND SO IT COULD BECOME A CHALLENGE IN THE FUTURE. TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THOSE SCREENING WALLS IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY AND KEEP THEM UP. AH ALSO, WE MOVE SOME CONFLICTING LANGUAGE ABOUT HOW. AND ALTERNATE SCREENING MATERIALS APPROVED AND WHAT IS ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE PART OF THAT AND WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE PART OF THE DESIGN EXCEPTION PROCESS. WE'VE MADE THOSE CHANGES. UNDERNEATH PARKING A COUPLE OF THINGS TO BE OF NOTE HERE FOR TRADITIONAL ENCOURAGE MULTI FAMILY WE'VE REVISED THE ENCLOSED PARKING PERCENTAGE. AH INSTEAD OF 30% OF I BELIEVE IT'S OF THE ENTIRE OR 30% ADDITIONAL . IT'S 30% OF THE REQUIRED IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN CLOSED. IS HOW WE REPORTED THAT. WE'VE ADDED ANGLED PARKING DIAGRAMS WITH THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS SO THAT THAT'S THERE. UM, I'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT FOOD TRUCKS STANDARDS. ANOTHER BIG ONE TO NOTE HERE, UM, FOR THE ACQUISITION OF RIGHT AWAY, WHICH IS EXISTED IN OUR ORDINANCE. FOR SOME TIME. WE'VE ALSO ADDED UTILITY EASEMENTS TO THAT SECTION. AS THE CITY GROWS AND EXPANDS SOME OF OUR UTILITY EASEMENTS. MAY IMPACT PROPERTY OWNERS ALONG SOME OF OUR MAJOR ROADWAYS, AND AS WE DO THAT WE DON'T WANT TO PENALIZE. THOSE WHO ARE DEVELOPING THEIR OR WANT TO EXPAND, AND SO WE'VE ADDED ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS FOR THEM SO THEY CAN CONTINUE WITH THEIR BUSINESS AND MOVE FORWARD. AH JUST ERIN, COULD YOU BACK UP A SLIDE? WHERE YOU HEADED? ONE QUICK QUESTION THERE. UM YES, WE TALKED SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT THE PICK UP WINDOW AND ONE OF THE DEALS WERE DOING DID WE GET THAT ADDRESSED? I'M MISSED THAT LAST NIGHT WHEN I WAS FLIPPING THROUGH IT. YES WE DO HAVE IT ADDED SO FOR MORE MOBILE ORDER STACKING. WE DID THAT IN HERE. THAT IS, THAT IS THAT IS WHAT THAT IS. I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER, BUT IT'S LESS THAN OUR EXISTING. IT'S THREE. WE MATCHED IT WITH THE ATM STACKING
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REQUIREMENTS. THANK YOU. HERE IN ONE OF THE ON THAT SLIDE, SO WE'VE GOT THIS, UM YOU SEE THESE TV PARKING SPACES WITH SUMMER RESERVED WITH A CHARGER? WHAT'S YOUR POSITION OR WHAT? WHAT ARE YOU HEARING IN YOUR CIRCLES ABOUT? E V STATIONS BEING A REQUIRED PART OF NEW DEVELOPMENT. VERSUS AN OPTION. OKAY SO WE HAVE THERE'S AN E V, A FACILITY. I THINK IT'S TRYING TO GET THE TERMINOLOGY BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TERMS. THERE'S AN E V STATION, WHICH IS YOU'RE ADDING A ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING SPOT TO YOUR EXISTING PARKING UH, WHICH WE WOULD ALLOW AND KIND OF GO AND TERM WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE. UM AND THEN THERE'S THE CHARGING STATIONS THAT ARE MORE LIKE GAS STATIONS , WHICH HAVE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS. SO, UM, WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT ANY OF THOSE SPACES WITHIN YOUR EXISTING DEVELOPMENT IF YOU'RE CONVERTING THEM THAT THOSE SITES WHEN THEY ARE CONVERTED AND NEED TO BE, UM THEY CAN'T BE FOR JUST ONE SPECIFIC TYPE OF CAR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THEY HAVE TO BE AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE TO BE ABLE TO CHARGE THERE TO COUNT TOWARDS YOUR REQUIRED PARKING SPACES. SO IF YOU HAVE EXTRA SPACES, YOU CAN DO THAT AND WHATEVER WAY YOU WOULD LIKE, BUT IF YOU WANTED TO COUNT TOWARDS YOUR REQUIRED PARKING, YOU DO NEED TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE. YOU'RE NOT SEEING A REQUIREMENT OF HAVING AN E V DEDICATED SPACE. GOOD. THANK YOU. OKAY UH, LAST I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGES. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE FOOD TRUCK USES AND HOW WE'VE CREATED THAT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS SECTION ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT, AND IT'S KIND OF BEEN A PAIN POINT FOR US IF YOU WILL TREE PRESERVATION. WHEN WE WENT TO THE NEW CODE, WE KIND OF SPLIT THE PROCESS OF TREE PRESERVATION AND THOSE REQUIREMENTS SEPARATED FROM THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THEMSELVES. AH WE QUICKLY HAVE REALIZED THAT THAT IS NOT THE BEST APPROACH TO THAT. SO NOW WE HAVE CONSOLIDATED THEM BACK TO MOVE THEM BACK TOGETHER AND CONSOLIDATED THEM AND CREATED A NEW ARTICLE. AND SO BY THE CREATION OF THAT ARTICLE, WE HAVE ALSO HAD TO DO SOME RE NUMBERING OF THE SOME OF THE SUBSEQUENT EXISTING, UM, ARTICLES. WHICH ARE LISTED THERE. FROM FOUR THROUGH EIGHT GOING TO FIVE THROUGH NINE. FOR THINGS LIKE SCIENCE, FENCES, LIGHTING, STORM WATER AND THE DEFINITIONS. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT THAT WE DID WITH THIS TOO. THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF TREE PRESERVATION, TOO. SO IS THAT INCORPORATED TOGETHER NOW BECAUSE I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT. SO IF I ASK THAT NOW OR ASK THAT IN THE NEXT ASKED THAT IN THE NEXT ONE ALL WE'VE DONE WITH THIS ONE IS REALLY JUST CONDENSED ALL OF THOSE SECTIONS AND PUT THEM TOGETHER, SO THEY'RE ALL TOGETHER AND IT'S EASY TO FIND AND NAVIGATE BETWEEN THE TWO PIECES. SO LOOKING AT THIS RIGHT NOW SEES THE RED LINE THAT ALL THE TREE PRESERVATION SCRATCHED OUT. I KNOW THAT WE STILL HAVE THREE PRESERVATION. IT'S JUST A LITTLE LATER. YES, IT'S MOVED TO ITS OWN PLACE IN THE CODE. YEP. WITH THAT. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE SEPTEMBER 19TH 2023 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. AND I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, ERIN. NICE WORK. ANYONE QUESTIONS? HAVE ONE. YES, SIR.SORRY I KNOW IT'S LATE. UM ON LANDSCAPING. I'LL SEE A LOT OF LANDSCAPING DONE AROUND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, WHERE THE LAND WHERE THE LANDSCAPING IS ALL BURNT UP BECAUSE IT'S NOT UH , YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO IRRIGATION OR OR THEY'RE NOT DOING IT. BECAUSE I FORGOT ABOUT IT OR WHATEVER. IS THERE ANY PROVISION FOR IRRIGATION? WHEN THERE'S WHEN THERE'S UM REQUIRED LANDSCAPING. SO WHAT ARE THE ORDINANCE ACTUALLY REQUIRES IRRIGATION FOR LANDSCAPING. SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IS EITHER THEY'RE NOT RUNNING THE WATER LINE OR THE HEAT IS TAKING ITS TOLL OR AFTER THE WINTER STORM. AND WHAT WAS THAT? 2020 2021? A LOT OF COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES LOST THEIR LANDSCAPING TO THE FREEZE. SO TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. A LOT OF IT IS AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE WHERE THE CITY IS ACTUALLY TRYING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROACTIVE TO GET OUT AND ABOUT IN THE CITY AND WHERE THEY'RE SEEING THAT WE HAVE A DEAD TREE THAT IS A REQUIRED TREE, ACTUALLY GETTING WITH THAT BUSINESS OWNER AND SAYING, HEY, WE NEED YOU TO
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REPLACE THIS TREE THAT IS DEAD, BUT IT IS REQUIRED TO BE IRRIGATED. AND IF THERE IS A DEAD TREE OR A TREE THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FOR REQUIRED LANDSCAPING THE BUSINESS OWNER DOES HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO REPLACE IT. IF THE CITY UH FIVE SEES IT AND FINDS THAT IT'S BEEN TAKEN OUT IN VIOLATION, THEY COULD GET A VIOLATION LETTER. THANK YOU. GOOD QUESTION VERY TIMELY. VERY TIMELY. ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU, JENNIFER. THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.IF YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT. ARE STILL HERE TONIGHT. EVER LIKE TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING ZONING REGARDING THESE CHANGES TO CHAPTER 1 50. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVED. ACTUALLY THE AGENDA ITEM MOTION I MR WOULD HAVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND IMPROVE THE ITEM. AS PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION. 2ND 2ND BY MR MAN'S EYES OR ANY DISCUSSION. ERIN. NICE JOB. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CASTRO VOTE. I THOUGHT YOU WERE DONE WITH IT IN NOVEMBER. THIS MOTION MOTION CARRIES IT WILL BE SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH THE FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION AT THE SEPTEMBER 1920 23 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
OPERATION. YES. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM. UH 23 DAYS 0004 M OF PUBLIC HEARING TO DISCUSS
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on Amendments to New Article 4, entitled “Tree Preservation,” to Chapter 150, entitled “Unified Development Code,” of the Code of Ordinances]
AMENDMENTS TO NEW CHAPTER NEW ARTICLE FOR ENTITLED TREE PRESERVATION TO CHAPTER 1 50 ENTITLED UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, ERIN. CHAIRMAN COMMISSION MEMBERS TO ME AGAIN. ERIN BLOCKS HIM PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH PLANNING DEPARTMENT. UM. AND JUST LIKE MR WOODRUFF MENTIONED IF YOU DIDN'T GET ENOUGH AMENDMENTS, YET THEY KEEP COMING. UM SO TONIGHT REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT TRUE PRESERVATION AMENDMENTS AND REALLY WHAT? WE'RE WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. WE WANT TO DEFINITELY IMPROVED THE ABILITY THE CITY'S ABILITY TO ADMINISTER THE TREE PRESERVATION REGULATIONS. SECONDLY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WERE CONSISTENT WITH OUR SISTER CITIES AND WHAT THEY OFFER. AND WHAT KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT. SO REALLY, WHAT'S CHANGING, LOOKING AT ORGANIZATION CHANGES? UH, TREE PERMIT REQUIREMENT CHANGES, UM, LIMITED USE PERMIT. UH I THINK I HAVEN'T MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT AS A NEW ITEM. BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY THAT WE'VE BROUGHT BACK TO HELP WITH SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AND THEN ALSO TO REVISE THE VIOLATION PENALTY. REQUIREMENTS SO KIND OF WALK THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE IN GREATER DETAIL. SO ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGES SO. AS WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. WE CONSOLIDATED ALL OF THESE ITEMS , AND THE CURRENT STRUCTURE IS KIND OF WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THEIR PROCEDURES, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND VIOLATIONS. WHAT WE'VE DONE IS KIND OF BREAKING THOSE OUT AND MADE THEM MORE. UM NAVIGABLE IF YOU WILL, UH SO THAT PEOPLE CAN KIND OF USE THOSE AND GET THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED QUICKLY. UM. YOU KNOW, AS WE DID WITH THE LAST ROUND. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE ADDED SOME MORE TABLES. WE DO HAVE THE EXISTING GRAPHICS AS WELL IN THERE. UM BUT NOW LET'S GET TO THE HEART OF THE CHANGES. FOR THE TREE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS AS YOU SEE BEFORE YOU THIS IS OUR CURRENT LANGUAGE. A TREE PERMIT IS REQUIRED PRIOR TO THE CRITICAL ALTERATION OF ANY TREE SIX INCHES OR GREATER IN DIAMETER AT BREAST HEIGHT. AND THIS IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING PRIOR TO THE CRITICAL ALTERATION OF ANY TREE PERMANENT MUST BE SUBMITTED AND APPROVED WITH COMPLIANCE. IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TREE REMOVAL PROCEDURES. AND I KNOW THIS PROBABLY SCARES A LOT OF YOU. AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THIS AND WHAT THIS CHANGE ACTUALLY MEANS BECAUSE IT'S NOT AS SCARY AS YOU THINK, AND I'LL KIND OF WALK THROUGH AND PROVIDE SOME MORE CONTEXT AROUND THAT. SO FIRST AS WE LOOK AT OUR SISTER CITIES UM , WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT IS REQUIRED YOU CAN SEE IN FRISCO AND PLANO. AND KIND OF AS WE GO ACROSS THE BOARD. ALL SPECIES ARE PROTECTED TREE SPECIES, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.AS PART OF OUR THING. YOU CAN ALSO SEE AS FAR AS THE EXEMPTIONS AND WHEN I SAY EXEMPTIONS HERE, THESE ARE EXEMPTIONS TO THE TREE MITIGATION PROCESS THAT WE HAVE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE LIST OF EXEMPTIONS THAT WE HAVE IN COMPARISON WITH OUR SISTER
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CITIES WHICH THOSE ARE STILL ALL IN PLACE AND WHAT WE DO. WE HAVE ALSO ADDED ADDITIONAL EXCEPTIONS . HERE'S THE LIST OF THOSE THERE , BUT THIS ALSO INCLUDES THINGS ON EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. AND A NUMBER OF THE ITEMS I DON'T WANT. I WON'T READ THE ENTIRE LIST. BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE. THERE THERE. UM. AND SO KIND OF AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UM ALSO, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE MADE THOSE CHANGES. TO THE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS. WE HAD LIMITED PURPOSE TREAT PERMIT AND KIND OF REALLY EXPLAIN THE DETAILED OUT WHEN THOSE APPLY. WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM RESIDENTS FROM DEVELOPERS ABOUT WHAT ACTUALLY APPLIES WITH UM, AND NOW WE HAVE THAT WE PROVIDED THAT IN GREATER DETAIL. AND KIND OF SHOWED THAT, UM, LIKE I MENTIONED BRING BACK THE LIMITED PURPOSE TREAT PERMIT. REALLY THIS IS FOR THE REMOVAL ACTIVITIES AS FIRST SELECTIVE, THINNING AND BEING ABLE TWO PEOPLE TO HAVE PEOPLE AND PROPERTY OWNERS REALLY BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THEIR PROPERTIES. AND SO NOW THEY HAVE A CLEAR PROCESS FOR THAT PROCEDURES THAT ARE OUTLINED IN OUR ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE ADDED. UM. KIND OF AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND REALLY KIND OF WHAT THE HEART OF A LOT OF THIS IS FOR. UM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ADMINISTERING.BEING ABLE TO ADMINISTER OUR CODE PROPERLY. AND SO AH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT VIOLATIONS AND PENALTIES TYPICALLY WHAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT PROPERTIES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE REMOVED TREES WITHOUT, UM GETTING A TREE PERMIT. UM A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THIS IS WHAT WE SEE SOME NICE PERFECTLY CUT STUMPS THAT WE CAN GO OUT AND COUNT AND DETERMINE THE IDENTITY OF ALL THE TREES THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US. WHEN IN REALITY, IT OFTEN LOOKS LIKE THIS. UM THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF EVERYWHERE. YOU CAN'T TELL WHETHER OR NOT THEIR STUMPS THERE AND IF THERE WERE OR WHAT'S LEFT OF A STUMP. YOU CAN'T TELL WHAT TYPE OF TREE IT IS, WHICH CAN CAUSE A PROBLEM. FOR US AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND SO. THE CHANGES THAT YOU'LL SEE AS WE MOVE FORWARD, REALLY IN IN RELATION TO THAT AND HOW WE CALCULATE VIOLATIONS. AND SO WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN OUR ORDINANCE, AND WE'LL WALK THROUGH THIS EXAMPLE IS THAT EACH SQUARE FOOT OF TREE AREA TO BE REMOVED. IT'S $30 PER SQUARE FOOT. THE NEW ONE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THAT EVERY 1200 SQUARE FEET OF TREE CANOPY REMOVED. UM IDENTIFIED ON AN AERIAL IMAGE IS NOW $2000 PER OCCURRENCE. AND I KNOW YOU KIND OF LOOK AT THAT AND GO. WOW, THAT'S A THAT'S A BIG JUMP. FIRST THE $2000 WHERE WE GOT THAT IS THAT IS TYPICAL. WHAT ZONING PENALTY IS PER STATE LAW . SO THAT'S WHERE WE GOT THE 2000. AND SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING GOOD ENOUGH CALCULATION TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. AND SO IF YOU COMPARE 1200 SQUEEZE 1200 SQUARE FEET OF DISTURBED AREA.
THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IT WOULD COST YOU $36,000 FOR THAT. WHEREAS IN THE NEW ORDINANCE OF THE WAY WE DO IT. WOULD BE PER 2000 SQUARE FEET. AND SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE SAME AREA.
YOU'VE GOT A DIFFERENT PRICE, BUT IT ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF GO THROUGH AND HAD MONITORED THAT BETTER. AS WE CAN. CHARGE THOSE VIOLATIONS FOR WHEN THEY WHEN TREES ARE REMOVED. AND HERE IN THIS CAME THE $2000 CAME FROM WHAT AGAIN? IT'S STATE LAW. STATE LAW ALLOWS US TO CHARGE UP TO $2000 PER VIOLATION. AND SO FOR US IN THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE.
EACH VIOLATION IS A 1200 SQUARE FOOT AREA. I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT WAS CONNECTED TO IT ANOTHER VIOLATION INSIDE THE CITY CODE. $2000 IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU PULLED THAT FROM ANOTHER PART OF THE CODE. IT IS LISTED ON OUR CODE, BUT IT'S A IT'S A STATE LAW REQUIREMENT. THAT'S THE MAXIMUM, SO THERE'S ANOTHER NUMBER THAT COULD BE LESS THAN THAT COULD BE OKAY. SO ERIN, YOU'LL HAVE TO HELP ME WITH THIS ONE. SO YOU'RE SAYING WE COULDN'T CHARGE 36,000 AT THIS TIME? WE HAVE TO DISCHARGE THE 2000 BY STATE LAW. UM, I'M. GETTING A NOTE FROM JENNIFER. OKAY I SO THIS IS THE CASE THAT'S GOING TO COME TO MY MIND IS THE CORNER OF HARDEN AND VIRGINIA IN WHICH I THINK WE MADE THE NEWS ABOUT SOMEONE TAKING A BULLDOZER AND FLATTENING. THAT CORNER WITHOUT
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APPROVAL OR SOMETHING. SO TELL ME WHAT WOULD BE THEIR PENALTY ON THAT SUBDIVISION FOR, SAY, 15 ACRES IF SOMEONE TAKES A BULLDOZER, AND WE GO OUT THERE, AND IT'S JUST DIRT AT THAT POINT AT THAT POINT, IT WOULD IT WOULD FALL INTO THIS CATEGORY RIGHT SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT AND SEE WHERE THE CANOPY OF DISTURBED YOU KNOW, THE TREE CANOPY WAS, AND WE FIGURE OUT HOW MANY INSTANCES, OCCURRENCES HAPPEN AS IN 1200 SQUARE FEET FOR EACH OF THOSE UH AND THEN WE TAKE THAT IN TIMES THAT BY THE PENALTY, WHICH WOULD BE 2000 BUT YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE REDUCING THEIR PENALTY BACK 10 X. IN TIMES OVER SO UNDER THE CURRENT CODE, IT'S WE ARE MEASURING IT BASED ON AREA DISTURBED TO THINK ABOUT IT FROM THE GROUND. OKAY, SO THIS IS THE AREA DISTURBED AND $30 PER SQUARE FOOT, WHICH IN THE EXAMPLE THAT'S UP HERE WOULD YIELD A VIOLATION FEE OF $36,000 FOR 1200 SQUARE FEET AREA DISTURBED UNDER THE NEW PROPOSED VIOLATIONS, IT WOULD BE BASED ON THE CANOPY THAT'S DISTURBED, DIVIDED BY 13,200 SQUARE, FOOT OF TREE CANOPY REMOVED AND WHAT THE GOAL OF THAT IS TO IS DOING IS TO TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, UM CAPTURING A PENALTY THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF THE QUALITY AREA SIZE SCALE MASSING OF THE CANOPY , AS OPPOSED TO JUST A DISTURBED AREA. THE LARGER CANOPY, THE LARGER THE TREES, AND WE DID GO DO SOME RESEARCH TO ESTIMATE THE TYPICAL CANOPY OF A VERY MATURE TREE. AND SO IT'S AROUND 1200 SQUARE FEET. SO IF YOU'RE DISTURBING 1200 SQUARE FEET, YOU'RE EITHER DISTURBING AN AREA THAT IS FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT WITH TREES OR ONE SINGULAR TREE THAT MAY HAVE A VERY LARGE CANOPY.AND SO THAT'S THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE CHANGE FROM AREA DISTURBED WHERE WE'RE JUST MARKING IT. WE WOULD GO WALK THE GROUND MARK THE GROUND VERSUS THAT CANOPY FROM THE AERIAL SO THAT WE CAN ACCURATELY REFLECT THE SCALE OF IMPACT, AS OPPOSED TO JUST AN AREA. WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IN THE PAST. IS THAT USING THAT SQUARE FOOT OF TREE AREA WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF INSTANCES WHERE WE'VE HAD SOME QUESTIONS OR RUN SOME EXAMPLES. AND WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT ON THE EXAMPLE OF HERE. IT'S A 1200 SQUARE FOOT AREA, WHICH IS VERY SMALL TYPICALLY, WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH A TREE VIOLATION. IT'S A LARGE AREA THAT'S BEEN DISTURBED . THAT'S WHEN WE TYPICALLY FIND OUT ABOUT THOSE WHEN SOMEBODY GOES AND REMOVES A SINGLE TREE OR TWO SINGLE TREES. THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE CITY TO CAPTURE BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE DON'T SEE THAT, BUT WHEN A LARGE AREA IS BEING DISTURBED, THAT'S WHEN WE GET THE PHONE CALLS. THAT'S WHEN WE DO START TO SEE THOSE. AND WHEN WE APPLY THAT CALCULATION TO A REALLY LARGE AREA, WE'RE GETTING VIOLATIONS IN THE MULTIPLE THOUSANDS, IN SOME CASES UP TO A MILLION DOLLAR VIOLATION, WHICH WE FEEL IS BEYOND YOU KNOW WHAT? WE THINK THE CODE INTENDED TO DO WHEN APPLYING THAT VIOLATION, SO THIS NEW CALCULATION BY USING THE CANOPY BETTER CAPTURES THE CANOPY OF THE TREES, MEANING THE AGE AND QUALITY AND AREA OF THE TREES, AND IT ALSO HELPS TO BRING DOWN THAT FEED TO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MORE REASONABLE, AND WE DO THINK THAT THAT CURRENT CALCULATIONS VERY LITTLE BIT BEYOND WHERE THE CITY INTENDED TO BE WITH THOSE VIOLATIONS. I COULD APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT PROCESS OF THE ECONOMIC DAMAGE OF JUST THE ONE TREE. BUT AGAIN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I GUESS MY CONCERN IS UM WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACRES AND ACRES IN WHICH IT CAN POTENTIALLY BE A MILLION DOLLAR FINE. IT IS. I DON'T WANT TO BE ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE WHERE A PERSON DECIDES IT. I'M GOING TO COMPLETELY IGNORE THE TREE PRESERVATION AND DO THIS BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER THAN ACTUALLY GOING THE OTHER WAY AROUND. SO IS IT PUNITIVE ENOUGH TO PRESERVE THE TREES? WE WANT TO PRESERVE WE CARE ABOUT FAIR ECONOMICALLY UNDER UNDERSTOOD, AND WE AGREE WITH YOU, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WENT ROUND AND ROUND ABOUT BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE VIOLATION IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S A SLAP ON THE WRIST, THAT SOMEBODY JUST WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT AS OPPOSED TO FOLLOWING THE PROCEDURES THAT THE CODE HAS, SO WE DO FEEL LIKE THIS NEW CALCULATION HURTS ENOUGH THAT PEOPLE WILL BE MORE INCENTIVIZED TO FOLLOW THE CODE AS OPPOSED TO JUST ACCEPT THE PENALTY. THANK YOU, JENNIFER. OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. OKAY? WITH THAT JUST KIND OF REMINDER. OF ALL THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE HAD ORGANIZATION TREE PERMITS THE LIMITED USE PERMIT. UH AND ALSO THE REVISED VIOLATION PENALTY.
AND WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES. UM THIS ITEM. YOUR RECOMMENDATION WILL GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL AT THE SEPTEMBER 19TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING, AND I'LL STAND FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT SO I GOT ONE, OKAY PAGE FOUR. PDF WHICH IS THE
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TRIP PROTECTION MEASURES. YES. SEVEN. B. STATES A TOTAL OF 400 SQUARE FEET OF AREA ON THE CRITICAL ROOT ZONE SHALL BE KEPT FREE OF IMPERVIOUS MATERIALS. THIS PREVIOUS AREA, MAYBE IN THE SHAPE OF A CIRCLE RECTANGLE OR OTHER SHAPES AND SHALL INCLUDE AND BE CONTIGUOUS WITH THE AREA WITHIN FIVE RADIUS OF THE TRUNK. THE QUESTION COMES DOWN MY MIND RIGHT 400 SQUARE FEET, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THIS TREE. TAKING UP A LOT OF POTENTIAL PARKING SPACES, ETCETERA, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW I JUST WAS CURIOUS. HOW ABOUT 400? SQUARE FEET CALCULATED. SO I JUST FOR ARBITRARY, ALL TREES. NO THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ON OUR ORDINANCE PRIOR TO THIS.THAT WAS NOT A CHANGED REGULATION. UM SO DEPENDING ON WHERE THE TREES IF, IF YOU'RE PRESERVING THE TREE, YES, YOU NEED TO PROTECT AROUND THAT TREE WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT, WHICH IS THE 400 FT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT CONTINUES TO GROW AND BE MAINTAINED OTHERWISE, ONE INCH TREE TODAY. AND THE NEXT 10. PROBABLY 40 YEARS BEFORE IT EVER GETTING CLOSE TO NEEDING 400 SQUARE FEET. IT'S CURIOUS HOW HOW IT WOULDN'T BE ON BASED ON A DIAMETER OF THE TREE THAT STARTS YOU KNOW, GROWS OR SOMETHING, BUT JUST IT'S A BIG NUMBER. UM I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS ACT, YOU KNOW, BE HONEST WITH YOU. I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS LANGUAGE BEFORE. AND OBVIOUSLY WE BUILT A LOT OF CENTERS AROUND EXISTING TREES, BUT IT'S JUST MORE CURIOUS ABOUT THE LANGUAGE ITSELF AND HOW DO WE IS IT SOMETHING THAT GETS ENFORCED? YES THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ENFORCE, BUT THE TREES THAT ARE PRESERVED ON THIS AREA GENERALLY. THE LARGE LEGACY TREES, NOT A SMALLER TREE THAT'S BEEN LANDSCAPED LATER. ENTERING THING, SO YEAH, AND I THINK THAT'S WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT IT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE MEASURE OUR TREES THAT ARE QUALITY TREES ARE PROTECTED TREES OR SIX INCHES STARTING. SO WHEN YOU START TO THINK OF A SIX INDUSTRY AND WHAT IT NEEDS AND MOST OF THE TIME. YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE ABOVE THAT, BUT PLUS, THIS IS NOT FOR THE ACTUAL PAD. THAT'S NOT PRESERVED FOR ACTUAL STRUCTURE, RIGHT? YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S OUTSIDE OF IT. BUT 100 THAT'S A COUPLE FEW PARKING SPACES. KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS THESE WOULD BE, UM AND WE PROBABLY NEED TO VISIT WITH ADAM R. FORMER OUR BIRTH ON HOW HE MAY HAVE SEEN THIS BE APPLIED OVER THE YEARS, BUT THESE ARE NON PROTECTED TREES THAT HAVE DEVELOPER OR, UM, I GUESS THE DEVELOPER IS SETTING UP PROTECTION, FENCING FORT, SO I SUSPECT IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS THE SPAN OF THAT CRITICAL ROOT ZONE AND ENSURING THAT A NON PROTECTED TREE THAT IS GOING TO BE PRESERVED IS IT'S NOT CRITICALLY ALTERED, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY FOLLOW UP WITH OUR ARBORIST ON THAT AND GET GET SOME FOLLOW UP FOR YOU ON THE HISTORY OF APPLICATION. HAS HE SEEN THAT CAUSE PROBLEMS AND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE RATIONALE ON THAT 400 FT BUFFER THAT'S BEING ASKED OF THE GREAT CURIOSITY. OTHER QUESTIONS ANYONE? YEAH I'M SORRY. SORRY.
I'M I'M I'M UP ON THIS TREE CALCULATION LOOK JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT I'M WONDERING IF YOU BECAUSE BECAUSE IT KIND OF IT. YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE A SWEETHEART DEAL TO SOME PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'RE THE NUMBERS REDUCED. SO MUCH. HAVE YOU GONE THROUGH PAST CASE? AND APPLIED BOTH BOTH METHODS TO SEE HOW THEY SHAKE OUT. YES WE HAVE. DO YOU WANT TO YES. I MEAN, WE HAVE DONE SOME SOME CALCULATIONS TO SEE HOW THEY WORK OUT. BUT I DON'T KNOW. DO WE WANT TO DISCUSS THOSE? WE HAVE SOME. SOME ARE STILL ACTIVE, BUT YES, AND I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT IT DID RANGE FROM UNDER THE OLD CALCULATION IN THE MILLIONS TO UNDER THE NEW CALCULATION, IT'S A COUPLE 100,000. SO STILL SIGNIFICANT, BUT NOT PASSED THAT THRESHOLD OF WHAT WE THINK MAY BE PALATABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO ACTUALLY ENFORCE. ERIN COULD YOU GO TO PAGE 10 OF YOUR 10 OF 18 ON THE PRESENTATION OUT OF THE YEP. THAT THAT ONE. UH, NO.
SORRY I CAN'T. I DON'T SEE THE PAGE NUMBER SO I'M NOT GIVE ME JUST A SECOND. SO IN OUR INFORMATION, IT'S IN YOUR PRESENTATION. QUESTION RELATES TO, UM, CRITICAL ALTERATION
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REGULAR. BECAUSE YEAH, RIGHT THERE, CLEARING UNDERBRUSH AND SELECTIVE THINNING AND THEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE. THE TYPE OF PERMITS IS LIMITED. LIMITED PURPOSE TREAT PERMIT, SO FIRST.CAN YOU DEFINE WHAT'S CRITICAL ALTERATION THAT MEAN CLEAR CUT OR SOMETHING OTHER THAN.
CRITICAL ALTERATION IS ANYTHING THAT IS CONSIDERED, UH DAMAGING TO A TREE, REMOVING A TREE, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BASICALLY KILL THE TREE. SO IT'S A CRITICAL ALTERATION. IT IMPACTS IT TO THE POINT WHERE IT DIES. AND THEN SELECTIVE THINNING. YOU'RE TAKING. AN AREA OF TREES AND YES, WHAT POINT WILL THAT REQUIRE A PERMIT VERSUS NO PERMIT. YEAH SO SELECTIVE THINNING. UM WE'LL ALWAYS REQUIRE THE LIMITED TREE. PERMIT. UM BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO MAINTAIN YOUR PROPERTY , RIGHT? THE REASON THAT WE DO SELECTIVE THINNING IS TO MAKE THE REST OF THE TREES WITHIN THAT. TREE FOREST OR TREE AREA TO MAKE THOSE STRONGER, BETTER TREES. AND SO YOU GO AND INDUCE SOME SELECTIVE THINNING TERM OF SOME OF THE OLD TREES ARE DEAD TREES OR ONES THAT ARE YOU KNOW, CAUSING PROBLEMS SO BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING, IF YOU MOVE BEYOND THAT, INTO, LIKE DEVELOPMENT STUFF, OR IF YOU'RE CLEAR CUTTING UM, THINGS THAT OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE IN VIOLATION. AND SO. I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION EXACTLY DID THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MISTER WATLEY? DID YOU HAVE ANY TREE PRESERVATION QUESTIONS. WE GOT HUNG UP ON GRUBBING UNDER THE DRIP LINE. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT GRABBING UNDER THE DRIP LINE OR NO? OKAY. ERIN. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR SOME TIME. SO I THINK MR OF THE QUESTIONS THANK YOU. ERIN. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ATOMS IF YOU COME TONIGHT AND WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS, PLANNING AND ZONING REGARDING THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO NEW ARTICLE FOUR. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. MAKE MOTION CLOSED PUBLIC HERE. MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND BY. MISTER WATLEY. ANY DISCUSSION? MR. WOODRUFF? ARE YOU OKAY WITH CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, OKAY. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. WHAT'S THAT MOTION CARRIES ? THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED NOW QUESTIONS MOTIONS. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE HER QUICK COMMENT. I MEAN, I KNOW THE STAFF IS THE NUMBER OF SCENARIOS AND LOOKS DEEPLY INTO THIS, AND I APPRECIATE AARON'S TIME ON BOTH ITEMS WE'VE HAD HERE JUST THE BIGGEST CONCERN, AND I HOPE STAFF LOOKS VERY HARD AT IT. IS UM, MAKE SURE THAT PENALTIES STIFF ENOUGH THAT, UH WE DON'T MAKE THE NEWS BY DALLAS DEVELOPER DOING A SUBDIVISION, KNOCKING OUT 20 ACRES OF TREES BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER TO PAY OUR FINES THAN TO PAY LIMITED PARTNER PREF. THAT WOULD BE ECONOMICALLY PUNITIVE. I DON'T TRUST YOU. ANYONE ELSE? OCEANS. MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION. EMOTIONAL MR MENZER TO APPROVE THE ANIMALS FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
SECOND, MR TAYLOR. ANY DISCUSSION. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES THE AUTUMN WHEN WE SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION AT THE SEPTEMBER 1920 23 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. WE WILL SEND THAT WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION. THE NEXT ITEM AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO ADDRESS PLANNING HIS OWNING ON AN ITEM NOT ONLY AGENDA IF YOU SO CHOOSE. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM. UM MISS STRICKLAND, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR US? NOTHING. HMM. MEMBERS, ANYTHING. ALL RIGHT, ERIN. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT. AND THE REST OF YOU AS WELL. THANK YOU. WE DO NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOVED MISTER WATLEY SECOND BY MR LEBOW. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. ALRIGHT THEN MOTION CARRIES IT IS 802
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