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THIS MEETING TO ORDER FOR THE MCKINNEY URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT . WE'RE AT 22 NORTH TENNESSEE STREET, AND IT IS 305. PM UM, THE FIRST ITEM IS PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK TO THAT? I SEE NONE, SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. ITEM NUMBER
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23-0748 MINUTES OF THE MCKINNEY URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT BOARD MEETING ON JUNE 20TH. THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES SECONDS. USING THE BUTTONS HERE TODAY. OKAY, ALL IN FAVOR, RIGHT?[Staff Report]
PASSES WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO 23-0749 STAFF REPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON TONIGHT TAKEN DIRECTOR OF HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT . SO AT OUR LAST MCKINNEY URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT BOARD MEETING ON JUNE 20TH THE BOARD WE STAFF . PRESENTED SOME OPTIONS FOR COST CUTTING, AND THE BOARD HAD SOME QUESTIONS AND SOME DATA REQUESTS AROUND SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. WHO IS USING THE SERVICE? HOW OFTEN ARE THEY USING IT? WHAT ARE THE COSTS FOR THE DIFFERENT FOLKS THAT ARE USING THE SERVICE WHETHER THEY'RE SENIORS, PERSONS WITH DISABILITY OR LOW INCOME? WHERE ARE THEY GOING? FROM WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO. WHAT ARE THEY USING THE SERVICE FOR SO THESE PRESENTATIONS THAT YOU'LL BE SEEING THIS AFTERNOON PROVIDE THOSE THAT THAT DATA AND WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY DECISIONS TODAY, BUT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LAYING OUT. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE CONTROL OVER AND MAYBE SOME STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SOME DECISIONS AT THE NEXT MEETING. SO THE STAFF REPORT. IS REALLY LAYING OUT. THE BEGINNING OF IT IS LAYING OUT THE HISTORY OF THE MCKINNEY URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT , AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO SHOW WHAT OUR TRANSIT HAS TRADITIONALLY BEEN THE TRANSIT OPTIONS IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY AND THE MCKINNEY URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT AND WHAT THEY ARE NOW TO SORT OF HIGHLIGHT THAT FOLKS ARE REALLY GETTING PLATINUM LEVEL SERVICE. SO THE PARTY HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE A WHILE . THE MECHANIC URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT WAS ACTUALLY ORIGINALLY FORMED IN 2002. SO WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE FORMATION IN 2017, BUT IT WAS ORIGINALLY FORMED IN 2002. SO WHY ARE WE HERE THIS AFTERNOON? THE SUCCESS OF THE CALLING COUNTY TRANSIT SERVICE HAS BROUGHT US TO THE EDGE OF THE FISCAL CLIFF. SO YOU WILL HEAR STAFF SAYING THE SKY IS FALLING AND WE NEED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES. BUT IT'S UP TO THE BOARD WHETHER THEY WOULD WISH TO DO THAT WISH TO DO THAT OR NOT.SO HERE ARE PROJECTED COSTS IF WE CONTINUE IF WE SEE A 3% GROWTH, WHICH I KNOW IT GOES UP AND DOWN, BUT OUR COST HAS RISEN ABOUT 7. IN FY 23. SO IF WE MAKE SOME CHANGES, AND WE'RE ABLE TO LIMIT GROWTH TO 3% IT'LL BE ABOUT $2.6 MILLION. THE COST FOR SERVICE FOR FY 24. IF IT GOES UP TO 10% GROWTH, WORRIED ABOUT 3.8. IF YOU TAKE THAT GROWTH AND YOU COMPOUND IT TO FY 25. THOSE ARE THE COST YOU'RE LOOKING AT. UM YOU HAVE CHARTS IN FRONT OF YOU THAT SHOW THE SERVICE COSTS AND HOW WE GOT TO THOSE NUMBERS AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT MAKE UP THE COST OF THE CALLING COUNTY TRANSIT. SO IT SHOWS ARE CURES ACT FUNDING, WHICH HAS BASICALLY ALLOWED SERVICE TO GROW AT THE RATE THAT IT'S GROWN. AND WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE CARES ACT FUNDING. SO THROUGH JUNE OF 2023 OF THAT $8.8 MILLION. WE'VE SPENT 1.45 ABOUT 7.4 REMAINING. SO OUR PROJECTIONS ASSUME $100,000 LOCAL MATCH FROM MCKINNEY $20,000 FROM THE MEMBER CITIES $450,000 FROM TEXAS, WHICH IS ABOUT WHAT OUR ANNUAL GRANT IS FROM THEM. SO THAT IS GOING TO GIVE US WHEN WE DRAW DOWN. THOSE ARE THE FUNDS THAT WE USE TO DRAW DOWN OUR F TA FUNDS SO THAT WILL GIVE US ABOUT $750,000 A YEAR. SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH. IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE CARES ACT FUNDING $750,000 A YEAR. AND SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT OUR ACTUAL COSTS ARE. NOW IF WE FIND OTHER SOURCES OF MATCH. FOR EVERY $100,000 THAT WE FIND IN MATCH THAT'S $200,000 OF CARES ACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO USE. SO IF THAT'S THE CITY OF
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MCKINNEY, IF THAT'S CDC IF THAT'S THE MEMBER CITIES IF THAT'S BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO CONTRIBUTE EVERY 100,000 BUYS US $200,000 BASICALLY. SO YOU CAN SEE. FOR FY 24 HELL MUCH AND CARES ACT FUNDS WILL BE USING IF WE GROW AT 3. 10% IN THE SAME. SO THIS NOW WE KIND OF GO INTO THE COST FOR FY 23 IS GROWN AT 7. AND CHRISTOPHER HANSEN WITH SPARE LABS. IT'S GOING TO GO INTO THIS DURING HIS PRESENTATION, BUT THESE ARE REALLY THE LEVERS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH TO REDUCE COSTS. SO ALL OF THE POSSIBLE WAYS TO REDUCE COSTS ARE GOING TO BE ONE OF THESE THREE THINGS. UNLESS YOU GUYS CAN THINK OF SOMETHING ELSE. AND THEN YOU KNOW THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. SO BRIEF HISTORY. 2003 WE STARTED WITH THE CART. THEY OFFERED THREE FIXED DROUGHTS AND SCALE BACK TO TWO FIXED ROUTES BECAUSE IT WAS TOO EXPENSIVE AND THE CITY OF MCKINNEY WAS PROVIDING ABOUT $100,000 A YEAR SO BACK IN 2003, PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THAT THE CITY IS PROVIDING IN 2023. AND AT SOME POINT CALLING COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ALSO CONTRACTED WITH C CART TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO RURAL AREAS OF THE COUNTY. SO GETTING THE SMALL, SMALL AREA AH, FUNDS TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE, SO A DIFFERENT PART OF MONEY THAN WHAT WE'RE USING. UM UTD 2.0 2013 C CARD WAS NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICE ANY LONGER FOR $100,000 A YEAR, SO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY AND DESIGNATED TAPS AS THE DIRECTORY SIPPY IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE DIRECT RECIPIENT, BUT WE HAVEN'T TAKEN THAT ON OURSELVES UNTIL 2017. WE'VE ALWAYS TURNED TO A TRANSIT AGENCY AND SAID HERE YOU MAKE THE DECISIONS WILL SIGN THIS OVER TO YOU. 2017 WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE SAID WE WANT TO BE IN CHARGE OF THIS. WE WANT TO MAKE THE DECISIONS. WE WANT TO HAVE THE BOARD. SO TAPS DID A FIXED ROUTE SERVICE ALONG WITH PARATRANSIT SERVICE IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. THEY LEVERAGE A LOT OF DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES.THEY WERE VERY CREATIVE ON THEIR FINANCING. SO HERE'S WHAT THEY BASICALLY PROVIDED. THEY DID. I BELIEVE FIVE FIXED ROUTES IN THE CITY OF MAKENI. THEY PROVIDED SERVICE TO THE CITY OF ALAN.
THEY PROVIDED SERVICE FROM MCKINNEY TO THE PARKER ROAD STATION THROUGH A 250,000 OR $500,000. JARQUE JOB ACCESS REVERSE COMMUTE GRANT THAT THE CITY OF MCKINNEY HAD APPLIED FOR SO IN NOVEMBER OF 2015, SO FOR TWO YEARS, THEY WERE ABLE TO KEEP THIS GOING. BUT IN NOVEMBER OF 2015, THE CITY OF MCKINNEY CANCELED ITS CONTRACT WITH TAPS BECAUSE TAPS JUST QUIT PROVIDING SERVICE. I THINK THEY GAVE US ABOUT TWO WEEKS NOTICE. SO IN JUNE OF 2016, THE CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZED AGAIN THE FORMATION OF A MCKINNEY URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT, AND IN JANUARY 2017, THE CITY REQUESTED DIRECTORY RECIPIENT STATUS OF FDA 53 07 FUNDS AGAIN, THE CITY SAID. WE WANT TO BE IN CHARGE OF THIS AND THE MEMBER CITIES 2015. WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR THEM? TERMINATING THEIR SERVICES WITH THE LACK OF FUNDING, OR WAS IT A LACK OF USE, OR IT WAS NOT A LACK OF USE? IT WAS, I WOULD SAY THAT THEY OVEREXTENDED THEMSELVES, PROBABLY IN A FINANCIAL AND IN A SERVICE CAPACITY, BUT THEY USE WAS PRETTY GOOD. THE USE WAS PRETTY GOOD FIXED ROUTE HAS HAS NEVER BEEN A GOOD FIT FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DENSITY. BUT THE THING THAT WAS REALLY GREAT ABOUT TAPS WAS THEY WERE OPERATING IN GRAYSON COUNTY.
THEY WERE OPERATING AND CALLING COUNTY AND THERE WAS A LOT OF CONNECTIVE ITTY. SO THAT WAS THE WHAT WAS REALLY NICE ABOUT THEIR SERVICE. SO AND THEN DC TO SO THE MCKINNEY URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT AND CITY MCKINNEY ENTERED INTO ANNIHILATE WITH DC TO, SO SOME OF YOU WILL REMEMBER . THAT WAS THE FIRST A TAXI VOUCHER PROGRAM WAS THE SERVICE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROVIDED AND WRITERS PAID 25% OF THE COST OF THEIR TRIP UP TO A MONTHLY MAXIMUM OF $400. SO THE SERVICE WAS LIMITED TO $400 PER PERSON. THAT WOULD THAT WE WOULD SUBSIDIZE UM, THE MONTHLY LIMIT WAS THEN INCREASED TO $600 PER CUSTOMER IN JUNE OF 2019. INCOME RIDERS WERE ADDED TO THE SERVICE IN 2020, SO YOU'LL SEE SOME DATA ON LOW INCOME RIDERS. WHAT WE HAD HEARD FROM THE BOARD WAS,
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IT'S TOO HARD FOR LOW INCOME RIDERS TO ACCESS THE SYSTEM. SO WE MADE IT MUCH EASIER FOR THEM TO ACCESS THE SYSTEM AND BE ABLE TO USE THE COLLIN COUNTY TRANSIT SERVICE IF THEY WERE GETTING ANY KIND OF GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE AND COULD SEND A LETTER SAYING I GET SNAP BENEFITS. I GET THIS ASSISTANCE OR THAT ASSISTANCE ANYTHING SHOWING THAT THEY WERE 250% OF THE FEDERAL POVERTY GUIDELINES. THEN WE ACCEPTED THEM. INTO THE SYSTEM. THEN DART IN LATE 2021 DART WAS SELECTED AS THE SERVICE PROVIDER FOR THE MCKINNEY URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT , SO IT WAS NO LONGER A TAXI VOUCHER PROGRAM. IT WAS A MIX OF IRVING HOLDINGS VEHICLES, SO THERE WERE SOME TAXIS AND THREE MUTV OWNED BUSSES, BUT IT WAS A FIXED FARE. AND WE DIDN'T LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF SUBSIDY THEIR RIDERS COULD GET EVERY MONTH LIKE WE HAD WITH THE TAXI VOUCHER PROGRAM. SO THE FAIR IS $3 A RIDE FOR WITHIN THE MEMBER CITIES AND $5 OUTSIDE THE MEMBER CITIES THAT'S NOW INCREASED TO $3.15 AND $5.25 IN JUNE, 2022 LIFT BEGAN PROVIDING SERVICE TO THE MCKINNEY URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT. COST PROVIDE PLUMMETED . SO IT WAS A GOOD THING. BUT DEMAND SKYROCKETED. SO AND THEN WE HAVE GO PATH INTEGRATION FOR SCHEDULING OF RIDES, AND THAT WAS COMPLETED IN NOVEMBER OF 2022. AND THAT HAS BEEN A REAL COST SAVER BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL USE THE GO PASS, YOU KNOW, SOFTWARE AND GO PASS APP ON THEIR PHONE TO SCHEDULE THE RIDES INSTEAD OF CALLING THE CALL CENTER, WHICH IS MORE EXPENSIVE. SO YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE THE SHOWS ARE EXPENDITURES. WHAT PART IS TEXT DOT WHICH PART IS FROM THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, THE MEMBER CITIES WHAT WE GET FROM F T A AND WHAT WE GET FROM FDA CARES. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT EFTA CARES HAS REALLY FUELED THE GROWTH OF THE PROGRAM IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. ON THAT CHART. SURE WHY? WHY DOES THE I GUESS IT'S THE TEXT OUTLINE ITEM. GO UP SO MUCH BETWEEN 23 AND 24. AH! OH BECAUSE THERE WERE FUNDS THAT WERE NOT UTILIZED IN FY 23 THAT WERE RE ALLOCATED TO FY 24. SO I THINK WE NORMALLY GET ABOUT $450,000. A YEAR. I'M LOOKING TO KIA AND HOW MUCH OF THAT 200,000 WAS RE ALLOCATED AND THEN WE GOT SOME EXTRA FUNDS AS WELL. IT'S ABOUT 850,000 FROM TEXAS, RIGHT ? THAT'S WHAT WE EXPECT TO GET ON AN ONGOING BASIS FOR JUST IN 24 20 JUST IN 24. BECAUSE I GUESS THE EARLIER IN THEIR SLIDES, YOU SAID. HAVE THE RATE OF GROWTH AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S USING FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 AS FAR AS THE GROWTH WE WOULD USE. SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 1.8 AND CARERS FUNDS, OR 4.3 AND OR 3.1 IN CORRESPONDS IN FISCAL YEAR 24, BUT WE'RE SHOWING THAT WILL USE 800,000. IN FISCAL YEAR 24. UM IS THAT A CUMULATIVE NUMBER OR IS IT NO, IT'S NOT CUMULATIVE.IT IS JUST FOR THE FISCAL YEAR. UM, AND FOR FY 24. WE'RE ONLY GETTING $450,000 CORRECT. YES UM YEAH, THAT'S A LITTLE I GUESS IT'S WRONG ACTUALLY, BECAUSE Y 24 WERE WE GOT EXTRA FUNDS AND FY 23, WHICH IS WHY IT'S WHERE IT IS ON THE ON THE CHARGE, BUT FOR FY 24 WE GO BACK TO OUR USUAL ALLOCATION OF $450,000. BUT IT. ON THE TEXT DOT FUNDS DARK LINE IN FISCAL YEAR, WHICH I ASSUME IS THE FIRST LINE THE FISCAL YEAR 23. IT SHOWS THAT AT ABOUT THE 4 50 IN FISCAL YEAR 24. IT SHOWS THAT 800 SOME ON RIGHT. AND FOR FISCAL YEAR 23. IT WAS 800 SOME ODD $1000 IN FY 24. IT WILL BE 4 50, SO I THINK THOSE JUST GOT REVERSED. YEAH, I THINK THEY GOT TRANSPOSED. YES YES, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED OR JUST TEXT ON PROJECTS FOR THE WHOLE THING. JEFFREY JESS TEXT DOT I DIDN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE CARERS MONEY WOULD NOT MAKE SENSE BASED ON WHAT YOU SAID.
PREVIOUSLY. WELL, SO WHAT IS IN THE SPREADSHEET. IT'S GONNA SHOW YOU WHAT WHAT WAS THAT? WHAT IS
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ACTUAL? AND WHAT IS OUR ACTUAL PROJECTIONS ARE TEXT DOT ALLOCATION IS $450,000 A YEAR UNLESS THEY GIVE US ADDITIONAL FUNDS, SO WE HAD A LITTLE BIT LEFT OVER FROM FY 22 THAT CARRIED OVER TO FY 23 WE HAD, UM AND THEN THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL ALLOCATION THAT THEY GAVE US. SO WE HAD ABOUT 850,000. BUT, UM. IF WE GO BACK TO YOU. SO THAT'S FY 24 I'M LOOKING FOR FY 23. OUR FY 23. DO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION? THE FY 23 BUDGET. IS THAT IN ANY OF THE PRESENT.OKAY UM, SO THE FY 23 BUDGET IS WE CAME BACK AND GOT IT 700,000 IN ADDITIONAL FUNDS. IT WAS ABOUT 1.1 MILLION AND WE CAME BACK AND GOT ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR ABOUT ONE POINT. SO WE COULD GET ONE POINT IS ABOUT 1.8 IS WHAT WE ENDED UP SPENDING FOR FY 23 SO FAR. I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ME THAT THE FULL YEARS OF 23 AND 24 TRANSPOSED NOT JUST THE TEXT DOT NUMBER. I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT. AND THE ASSUMPTION IF YEAH, 23 IS REALLY F. WHITE 24.
THE ASSUMPTION IS WE GET 450 TEXT DOT AND WE THEN HAVE TO SPEND ONE POINT 15 AND CARES ACT MONEY IN 24. I BELIEVE YOU'RE CORRECT. LET'S LOOK AT THE. SO FOR FY 24 IF WE HAVE $750,000 AND AT 3% GROSS GROWTH IS 2.6. THEN THAT SHOWS YOU WHAT OUR CARES AT CONTRIBUTION WOULD BE IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT 1.9. WITH THAT TURN EITHER 1.85 FOR FY 24 3% GROWTH WE WILL SPEND ABOUT 1.858 MILLION AND CARES ACT WAS SAYING THAT THE CARES ACT FUNDING IN THAT CHART. 1.1. WELL IT'S PROBABLY CLOSER TO 1.8 BECAUSE IT'S BETWEEN A MILLION AND A MILLION TWO SO I THINK THEY JUST GOT TRANSPOSED. THINK FY 23 AND FY 24 GOT TRANSPOSED. RIGHT, BUT THAT'S NOT NEAR 1.8.
1.21 0.18. HE'S SAYING 1.8. SO WE'RE HAVING A DECIMAL PLACE AT A NO. THAT'S 1.8. IT'S 1.1811 POINT. 8,000,001 0.8 CORRECT. FOR FY 24. SHOWING CARES ACT OF 1.18. WELL FOR FY 23, WHICH IS TRANSPOSED THE CARES ACT IS PROBABLY CLOSE TO ONE. 1.8 IF IT'S BETWEEN A MILLION ONE POINT A MILLION DOLLARS AND ONE 0.0. YOU'RE RIGHT. IT IS. IT'S YEAH. 1.81 0.2, SO IT'S PROBABLY CLOSE TO 1.8. OR 1.18 IS WHAT THAT SAYS, ISN'T IT? YEAH POSSIBLE THAT OTHER CHART HAS JUST A WRONG NUMBER ON THAT FIRST DATE. THIS THIS IS WRONG. THIS IS NOT CORRECT. YEAH THE OTHER THE OTHER ONE IS AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. BUT SOMEHOW THE NUMBERS GOT MESSED UP ON HERE FOR THE EXPENDITURES. THIS IS THE SAME. AS WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU FOR FY 24 WHAT THE EXPECTED EXPENDITURES ARE AND WHAT THE CARES. ACT FUNDING WILL BE REQUIRED AS 1.8. IT'S WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. AND JUST FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THAT WE HAVE 7.4 REMAINING IS THAT ALL AVAILABLE FOR OPERATIONS? IT IS CURRENTLY AND OPERATIONS AND CAPITAL. BUT THERE'S NO ISSUE WITH MOVING IT ALL INTO OPERATIONS. IF WE HAD 1.8, YOU'RE STILL OPERATING AT A . 3 TO 4 YEAR. RUN RIGHT, CORRECT IF WE CAN KEEP THE GROWTH AT ABOUT 3% THEN THEN THAT GIVES US SOME BREATHING ROOM. WHAT WHAT STAFF IS MAKING STAFF NERVOUS IS WE'RE RUNNING CURRENTLY AT ABOUT 7% TO ASK YOU ABOUT THOSE GROWTH RATES LATER, OKAY? ALL RIGHT. SO. SO SORRY ABOUT THE CHARTS, SO WE'LL JUST
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ITEM DELETE THAT. AND COST OF TRANSIT SERVICE. AGAIN SO THIS ONE IS ACCURATE. I THINK. SO IT'S SHOWING FOR FY 23. YOU KNOW, WE ENDED UP DRAWING DOWN AN ADDITIONAL $700,000 AND CARES ACT FUNDING. SO THAT WAS AT THE JUNE 20TH MEETING. AND COST SAVING MEASURES. SO THESE ARE KIND OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE THINGS THAT STAFF HAS ALREADY DONE AND ENCOURAGE USE OF GO PATH RATHER THAN CALL CENTER TO BOOK TRIPS. JASMINE HAS BEEN DOING A LOT OF TRAINING, ESPECIALLY WITH FOLKS AT THE SENIOR CENTER TO GET THEM COMFORTABLE WITH USING THE GO PASS APP. TECHNOLOGICAL IMPROVEMENTS ON THE BACK END SYSTEM AND USER FACING SYSTEM EFFORTS TO INCREASE SHARED RIDES. WRITER ELIGIBILITY REVIEW AND FOR CONSIDERATION INCREASED FARES FREEZING THE ELIGIBILITY PORTAL, AND WE DON'T MEAN LIKE FREEZING IT WHERE THERE ARE NO NEW RIDERS, BUT LIMITING THE NUMBER OF NEW RIDERS AND PUTTING THE REMAINDER OF THE RIDERS. IF WE HAVE 20 APPLICANTS MAY BE LIVING AT 2 10 PEOPLE NEW WRITERS A MONTH AND PUTTING THE OTHER 10 ON A WAITING LIST. CURTAIL THE NON DEDICATED SERVICE USE USING DATA DRIVEN DETERMINATIONS YOU'LL SEE LATER IN THE SPARE LABS PRESENTATION. THAT THE NON DEDICATED, UM SERVICE USE IS LESS PER TRIP, BUT IT'S REALLY THAT'S THE SERVICE. THAT'S THAT'S BEING UTILIZED THE MOST SO WE'VE HEARD WOULD AN INCREASE IN FARES MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE? AFFAIRS DO NOT MAKE UP A SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH PORTION OF THE TOTAL TO RECOUP ANY REAL BENEFIT TO THE MCKINNEY URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT. FOR CCT TO RECOUP THE ACTUAL COST PER TRIP PER PASSENGER. ON AVERAGE, RIDERS WOULD HAVE TO PAY $60 PER TRIP IN AN M UTD OWNED VEHICLE $40 PER TRIP AND A SUBCONTRACTOR OWN VEHICLE OR $20 PER TRIP IN A NON DEDICATED VEHICLES, SO LIFT . SO AGAIN, THE LOVERS TO DECREASE THE GROWTH RATE. CAP THE RIDE DISTANCE, SO DO I. COMPLETE ANALYSIS OF WHAT THE WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE IF WE MAXED THE SUBSIDY OF $40 PER RIDE. WHEN WE HAVE FOLKS THAT ARE TAKING LEFT EARLY IN THE MORNING, EIGHT O'CLOCK 7 30 IN THE MORNING OR 5 30 IN THE AFTERNOON. WE'RE PAYING SURGE PRICING. THESE ARE LOW INCOME RIDERS THAT ARE GENERALLY TAKING LIFT TO AND FROM WORK. BUT WE'RE PAYING UPWARDS OF $80 A TRIP WITH THE SURGE PRICING. SO EVEN CAPPING IT AT $40 WOULD BE A SUBSTANTIAL SAVINGS, BUT YOU KNOW IT WOULD IMPACT THE LOW INCOME RIDERS. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE POLICY DECISION. UM CAPPED THE TOTAL NUMBER OF TRIPS PER MONTH PER RIDER ARE AVERAGE TRIPS ARE RUNNING ABOUT 15 TRIPS A MONTH PER PERSON, AND THAT'S PRETTY CONSISTENT ACROSS ALL OF THE DIFFERENT RIDER CATEGORIES. OR CAP. NEW WRITER ELIGIBILITY.UM CAPTAIN NUMBER OF NEW RIDERS TO 10 PER MONTH, WITH THE REMAINDER GOING TO A WEDDING LIST. OR ELIMINATE THE LOW INCOME SUBSIDY FOR NEW RIDERS WOULDN'T IMPACT EXISTING WRITERS. BUT IT WOULD DEFINITELY CONTROL THE COST OF THE PROGRAM. AND THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION WILL COME UP AND DO START GIVING YOU A LITTLE BIT OF DATA. UM YOU KNOW, ON TRIPS, HOW LONG THE TRIPS OR WHO'S TAKING THE TRIPS WHERE THEY'RE GOING? AND THEN CHRISTOPHER HANSEN FROM SPARE LABS IS HERE AND THEY DO ALL OF THE DATA AND THE BACK END SCHEDULING FOR ALL OF THE CCT TRIPS, BOTH THE DEDICATED AND NON DEDICATED VEHICLES. OKAY? HI BOARD. SO AT OUR LAST
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MEETING, YOU GUYS HAD A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS. UM, JUST ABOUT SERVICE. WHAT ARE WHO WHO'S USING OUR SERVICE. HOW OFTEN ARE THEY USING IT? WHERE ARE THEY GOING? ARE THEY STAYING WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION WHEN THEY USE THE SERVICE? SO WE'VE LISTED ALL THESE QUESTIONS OUT TODAY AND THIS WILL BE ANSWERED. WHAT WASN'T ANSWERED. INGENIOUS PRESENTATION WILL GET MORE CLARITY IN MY PRESENTATION AND CHRISTOPHER'S SO RYAN IS NOT HERE TODAY TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT OUR KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS TO YOU ALL HE IS ON A MUCH DESERVED VACATION OUR TRANSIT[00:25:02]
RIDERSHIP IN JULY WAS ALMOST 5000, AND WE TALKED FOR OUR HIGHEST RIGHT, RIGHT. HIGHEST RIDERSHIP MONTH EVER WAS AUGUST 2023 SO ALMOST 6500 TRIPS. IN ONE MONTH. UM HUGE, HUGE, HUGE NUMBERS HERE. WRITERS APPROVED FOR SERVICE. WE HAD ANOTHER PEAK IN JULY OF 2023 WITH 41 ADDED TO THE SERVICE, 28 ADDED. IN AUGUST , WE ARE CONSISTENTLY SEEING EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS AND INFLUX OF APPLICATIONS. THIS DATA REVIEWS OR THIS IS A REVIEW OF MARCH AND OCTOBER DATA.OCTOBER 2022 AND MARCH 2023 OR OUR HIGHEST RIDERSHIP MONTHS, SO WE USED THOSE TO DETERMINE WHERE ARE PEOPLE GOING? AND WE FOUND THAT THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME. SO WE'RE PRESENTING ONE SLIDE FOR BOTH OF THOSE DATA SETS. UM ALMOST 60% OF THE TRIPS ARE MCKINNEY TO MCKINNEY TRIPS STAYING WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION? UM, YOU'LL SEE THEM KIND OF METER OUT, YOU KNOW, TO PLANO ALLEN FRISCO, UM, ETCETERA. SO A LARGE PORTION OF OUR SERVICE IS WITHIN MCKINNEY EXCLUSIVELY. WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE TRIP CATEGORIES. YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE THESE SENIORS GOING, AND THE MAJORITY OF THE SENIORS ARE GOING TO THEIR MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS AND THEN RIGHT BACK HOME. WE'RE ALSO SEEING A LOT OF THEM, USE IT FOR RECREATION AND THEN SHOPPING AND TO WORK ARE SOME LESSER USED TRIP PURPOSES HERE. FOR THE DISABLED TRIPPED CATEGORY. WE'RE SEEING LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO RECREATION, SHOPPING OR TO MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS. I'M SORRY FROM MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS BECAUSE I FOUND THIS INTERESTING. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE HAVING THEIR UH, LOVED ONES. FAMILY MEMBERS TAKE THEM TO THEIR APPOINTMENTS, BUT THEY NEED TRANSPORTATION BACK HOME. YOU KNOW WHEN THOSE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY AT WORK, SO THAT IS WHERE OUR SERVICE JUMPS IN AND YOU'LL SEE. THAT'S 11% OF OUR DISABILITY TRIPS ARE TAKING PEOPLE BACK HOME AFTER MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS. AND LIKE YOU MENTIONED ARE LOW INCOME RIDERS ARE USING IT MOSTLY FOR WORK.
THEY'RE GETTING TO WORK AND BACK HOME, AND THEN WE'RE SEEING A COUPLE OTHERS THAT WERE MAYBE A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE IF IT WAS SHOPPING OR IF IT WAS WORK. WE IMPUTED THIS BY LOOKING AT HOW LONG THEY WERE AT THAT LOCATION. WE DETERMINED THAT ANYTHING SMALLER THAN A FOUR HOUR SHIFT. THEY WERE PROBABLY, UM, RECREATION, NOT FOR WORK. OH AND THAT IS THE CONCLUSION OF THE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS GOING TO BRING UP CHRISTOPHER HANSEN FROM SPARE TO GET INTO THE DATA POINTS. HELLO EVERYONE. MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER I'M THE CEO OF ONE OF THE CO FOUNDERS WILL SPARE WHERE VANCOUVER, CANADA BASED COMPANY THAT PROVIDES THESE KIND OF TRANSIT SERVICES FOR OVER 200 PLACES AROUND THE COUNTRY SO HAPPY TO BE HERE. SO THIS HAS TO COME HERE TODAY TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE STATE OF THIS PROGRAM AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT DOING GOING FORWARD TO MANAGE THE COST OF PROVIDING THE SERVICE AND OVERALL, THIS SERVICE HAS SEEN INCREDIBLE RIDERSHIP INCREASES BEYOND MOST SERVICE THAT WE ACTUALLY POWER. FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, IT'S BEEN INCREDIBLE LIKE PEOPLE HAVE HEARD STORIES ABOUT PEOPLE GETTING UH, MUCH BETTER EXPERIENCE THAN THEY HAVE HISTORICALLY, AND WE'RE ABLE TO REALLY DRIVE DOWN THE COST PER TRIP BY PROVIDING NON DEDICATED PROVIDERS LIKE LEFT IN THIS SERVICE. AS IT WAS MENTIONED BEFORE. THERE'S A COUPLE OF WAYS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, FIGURING OUT HOW WE ACTUALLY BALANCED THE COST OF PROVIDING THIS SERVICE BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE IS A MARGINAL COST OF ADDING NEW RIDER TO THE SERVICE, AND THERE'S AN MARGINAL COST TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE THIS TYPE OF SERVICE AND UNDERMANNED SERVICE. THE THREE BIG LEVERS THAT WE CAN PULL THEM NOT GOING TO GO. THERE WERE DONE TOO MUCH MORE DETAIL. BUT THESE ARE THE THREE LEVERS AND OUR GOAL IS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GATHER SOME INFORMATION FROM YOU ALL TO WHAT? I HOPING THIS WHO ARE YOU HOPING THIS SERVICE SERVICE SERVICE THE BEST. MM. SO THAT WE CAN START FIGURING OUT SOME PROS AND CONS AROUND EACH OF THEM AND ACTUALLY BRING WITH YOUR AWESOME CONCRETE POTENTIAL WAYS TO ACTUALLY MITIGATE THE MEDICATED BUDGET INCREASE. SO FIRST LITTLE BIT OF A TIMELINE IN THE TIME THAT WE HAVE BEEN PART OF THIS SERVICE, SO SPARE WAS BROUGHT IN BY DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT ON JANUARY 2022. TO STOP PROVIDING THIS SERVICE AND REALLY WHAT? WE
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WERE REALLY THE WAY THAT IT IS BEING PROVIDED IS BEING PROVIDED BY THREE DIFFERENT TRANSPORTATION PROVIDERS AND TWO OF THEM BEING DEDICATED PROVIDERS, WHICH ARE PAID ON AN HOURLY BASIS, ONE USING MCKINNEY OWNED VEHICLES AND THE OTHER ONE PROVIDING THEIR OWN VEHICLES, AND THEN LATER ON IN THE YEAR, WE WERE ABLE TO ADD LIFT THAT'S AS A THIRD TRANSPORTATION PROVIDER TO THIS SERVICE. SO AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE THE SUBSIDY PER BOARDING OR PER TRIP WAS PRETTY PRETTY HIGH IN IN THE START OF THIS SERVICE ONCE WE TOOK IT OVER FROM FROM THE PREVIOUS CONTRACTOR, IT WAS ABOUT $51. AND I MEAN, THIS IS THERE'S NOT CRAZY COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHER SERVICES THAT THEY WE SEE ACROSS THE COUNTRY, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE NEW YORK CITY'S PARA TRANSIT IS LIKE $98 , BUT IT'S STILL MUCH HIGHER THAN WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE. SO IN MAY OF 2022, WE WERE ABLE TO BRING LIFT AS A SERVICE PROVIDER TO THIS SERVICE AND AS WE'LL SEE IN IN IN THE UPCOMING SLIDE THAT HAS DONE A LOT TO BOTH INCREASE THE EXPERIENCE, BUT ALSO DECREASED THAT. THE HEURISTIC COST. AND IN ORDER TO IN ORDER TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR WRITERS TO HAVE EASIER BOOKING MECHANISMS AND ALSO TO FOLLOW THEIR TRIP. KIND OF LIKE IF YOU'RE TAKING AN UBER AND LIFT ON YOUR OWN, WE INTRODUCED THE GULP ASAP. SO ALL OF THESE TRANSPORTATION PROVIDERS AND NOW BEING SHOWN IN THE GO PASS APP AND PEOPLE CAN EASILY SCHEDULED TRIPS ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT NEEDING TO CALL THE CALL CENTER . AND THAT OBVIOUSLY HELPS. YOU KNOW SOME PEOPLE SOME OBVIOUSLY, SOME PEOPLE FOR WHATEVER REASON , I PREFER TO CALL CALL THE CALL CENTER, BUT I KNOW THAT BEING AN ONGOING EFFORT TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ON WHAT THIS SMARTPHONE APPLICATION TECHNOLOGIES, UM IN . IN MAY. WE DID SOME LARGER SERVICE OPTIMIZATIONS THROUGH FURTHER REDUCE THE COST PER TRIP , AND IN JUNE, WE STARTED STEPPING UP SOME SOME AUTOMATED WAYS FOR US TO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO CALL THE CALL CENTER IN AND MORE AUTOMATED WAY BEFORE WE TURN IT OVER TO HUMAN CALL CENTER AGENT SO THAT IS REALLY AS I'LL SHOW LATER, THEN IT'S REALLY HELPED, LIKE ACTUALLY DRIVE DOWN THE COST OF EVEN PROVIDING SERVICE THROUGH THE COLE CENTER. WE HAVE ALSO DONE A COUPLE OF ANALYSIS IN TERMS OF LIKE REALLY FIGURING OUT HOW WE OPTIMIZE THE SERVICE AREA AND CONTINUE TO DRIVE THESE THINGS FORWARD. AND AS A RESULT OF ALL OF THESE EFFORTS, AND MANY MORE DEATHS WASN'T ABLE TO COVER WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DRIVE DOWN THE OPERATION SUBSIDY TO $17.68. AS OF JULY, SO GOING FROM 51 IN JANUARY, 2022 TO 17 IN JULY OF 2023, SO A MASSIVE DECREASE IN IN COST PER TRIP. THOSE ARE ALL GREAT NEWS. IN A AS A AS A OF IN AS OF AUGUST OF 2023. WE WERE ALSO ABLE TO PROVIDE 30% OF THE WEEKLY TRIPS BEING BOOKED THROUGH THE THROUGH THE GOLD PASS APP. SO WE'RE SEEING 30% NOT BEING GOOD DELIVERED BY CALL CENTER. AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS GRAPH, THE SERVICE HAS SINCE WE TOOK OVER BECOME VERY, VERY POPULAR. UM WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING MORE TRIPS PER DAY AND THEN WE USED TO DO PER WEEK WHEN WE STARTED, SO IT HAS BECOME VERY, VERY POPULAR IN TERMS OF JUST PROVIDING GREAT SERVICE. AND THEN HERE ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT EFFECT ADDING LIFT AS A TRANSPORTATION PROVIDER HAS DONE SO. THE YELLOW GRAFT THERE THAT'S BASICALLY THE COST OF PROVIDING THE DEDICATED VEHICLES THAT WILL CHECK SENSIBLE VEHICLES AND THE ONES WITH THE OVERSIZED THE CAPABLE OF TAKING OVERSIZED MOBILITY DEVICES. SO THOSE OF YOU KNOW VERY EXPENSIVE AND AS HE WAS SEEING WHEN WE'RE BRINGING ON WHEN WE BROUGHT IN A LIFT, WHICH IS THE PINK ONE THERE. THE TOTAL AVERAGE SUBSIDY PER TRIP IS REALLY STARTING TO DROP AS A MAJOR IMPLICATION OF THAT. SO THAT'S BEEN REALLY, REALLY GOOD TO SEE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE ALSO SEEN REDUCED WAIT TIMES, SO THE WAY THAT MANY PEOPLE BOOK THE SERVICES THAT THEY BOOK IT LIKE ON DEMAND, RIGHT, SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BASICALLY SLASH WAIT TIMES FROM AN AVERAGE OF 30 MINUTES TO GET A RIDE TO 15 MINUTES OR LESS, AND THE REALLY NICE THING OF USING PROVIDERS LIKE LIFT SIMILAR WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE WITH UBER. IS THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO ALMOST PUT A CAP ON THE WAIT TIME. WHERE BECAUSE THERE'S JUST LIKE SO MANY LIFTING UBER DRIVERS AROUND THAT CAN TAKE[00:35:02]
TAKE THIS RIDES. IT WAS ALSO HELPED US TO IMPROVE COVERAGE OF THE SERVICE BEING ABLE TO EXPAND THE SERVICE HERE AND SERVE MORE WRITERS AND TAKE THEM TO WHERE THEY WANT TO GO. AND WE PUT THAT TOGETHER SOME SOME DATA HERE FOR YOU ALL ON THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ELIGIBILITY GROUPS BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A REALLY INTERESTING WAY OF LOOKING AT WHAT IS ACTUALLY THE COST OF ADDING A NEW WRITER TO THIS PROGRAM. SO JUST FOR CONTEXT, THERE'S THREE ELIGIBILITY GROUP DISABILITY, LOW INCOME AND SENIORS. AND ON THIS ON THIS TABLE HERE, BASICALLY, THE WAY YOU CAN THINK ABOUT THIS TABLE IS THAT FOR EACH LOW INCOME WRITER IT COSTS ABOUT $2770 ADDITIONAL PER YEAR TO PROVIDE SERVICE. SO IF YOU'RE MAKING ONE LOW INCOME RIDER ELIGIBLE FOR THE SERVICE, THAT SHOULD BE WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN EXPECTING IN TERMS OF COST ADDITIONAL COST PER PER PER YEAR. FOR PROVIDING THIS YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT DIFFERENT COSTS AND REALLY THIS COST IS DRIVEN BY HONESTLY LIKE HOW MANY TIMES THEY USE IT AND THE TRIP DISTANCE. THOSE ARE LIKE THE KEY KEY WAYS THAT THIS THIS COSTAS DRIVER DOES IT HAVE ANY ALLOCATION OF WHICH TYPE OF SERVICE THEY'RE USING? LIKE LOW INCOME WOULD USE LIFT MORE OFTEN. VERSUS DISABLED WOULD USE THE. OUR OWN OUR OWN VEHICLES. CORRECT SO IN TERMS OF THE COST PER RIDER PER MONTH WHEN THE DISABLED SHOULDN'T THAT BE A LOT MORE. BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY'RE USING. YEAH I MEAN, SO THIS IS SOME MORE FAITH A SIMPLER WAY OF REDUCING IT IN IN IF YOU IF THERE'S A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS BEING BUILT INTO THIS THE WAY WE DID THIS WAS JUST TAKING THE COST. THE TOTAL COST OF PROVIDING THE SERVICES UM AND DIVIDING IT BY JUST TO GIVE THEM MORE LIKE SIMPLISTIC WAY OF SHOWING WHAT IT ACTUALLY COSTS, BUT YOU'RE TOTALLY RIGHT. UM BECAUSE, ESPECIALLY UNLIKE THE LARGER MCKINNEY ON VEHICLES, THEY'RE MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE TO PROVIDE $50. EXACTLY AND YOU CAN IMAGINE, LIKE IN ON HOURLY BASIS, THERE'S JUST A BECAUSE THEY'RE PAYING THEM ON A PER HOUR BASIS. RIGHT ON A PER HOUR BASIS. YOU CAN ALSO ONLY SERVE. YOU KNOW, SAY ONE PERSON BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT TAKES MORE TIME BECAUSE THE NEED OF ASSISTANCE TO GET INTO THE VEHICLE AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. WELL IF YOU'RE USING SOMETHING LIKE LIFT AND UBER OVERALL, MUCH QUICKER, RIGHT, SO THOSE ARE BIG DETERMINATIONS AS WELL. SO YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON THAT.ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THIS IS A VERY, VERY COMPLEX GRAPH. SO GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN THIS, BUT THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT THIS SHOWS IS THAT IT SHOWS THE DIFFERENT CITIES AND THE MEMBER CITIES ARE MARKED HERE IN RED, AND IT SHOWS YOU HOW MANY RIDERS WHAT THE RIDERSHIP IS PER MONTH. FROM GOING FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER PLACE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE GOING FROM MCKINNEY TO PLANO, UM , THERE'S 100 AND 89 RIDES THAT HAPPENED IN OCTOBER 2022. SO THIS SHOWS YOU THAT THERE WAS A GRAPH SHARED EARLIER AROUND. AROUND THE MUCH MORE SIMPLE WAY OF DESCRIBING THIS THIS JUST AND MORE LIKE HOLISTIC WAY OF LIKE HOW PEOPLE ARE USING LEAVES IN THE SERVICE. BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD THAT. FOR EXAMPLE, IN PLANO, THERE'S A LOT OF LIKE MEDICAL CENTERS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO. SO UM, THAT'S THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY THIS. THIS GRAPH IS SHOWING LITERALLY THE SAME JUST WITH UPDATED NUMBERS FROM MARCH 2023 AS YOU CAN SEE, RISING GOING UP. IN THE LAST ONE HERE. YOU SAW THAT THE RAMP? YEAH SO 57% OF RIGHTS ARE GOING FROM MCKINNEY TO MCKINNEY.
AND IN THIS ONE WE'RE SEEING 59% GOING FROM MCKINNEY TO MCKINNEY SHARED EARLIER. CALL CENTER CALL CENTER IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE WHO CANNOT USE SMARTPHONE BUT OBVIOUSLY REQUIRES REAL HUMAN BEINGS TO DO IT SO THAT OBVIOUSLY DRIVES UP COST. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON A LOT OF OPTIMIZATIONS AROUND THE CALL CENTER, MAINLY BY BRINGING SOME OF THAT IN HOUSE, THE ACTUAL CALL CENTER AGENTS, BUT ALSO MORE IMPORTANTLY, BRINGING OUT SOME OF THE AUTOMATION AND I THINK EVERYONE REALLY HATES PRESS ONE FOR BOOKING A TRIP PRESSED TO ETCETERA, ETCETERA, THAT AUTOMATED THING, BUT IT DOES MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. AND I HOPE THAT THIS SHOWS THE KIND OF DIFFERENCES MAKES SO IN JANUARY, 2023. IT COSTS THE COST PER BOARDING FOR CALL CENTER WAS ABOUT $6.61 AND AS OF AUGUST 2023, IT HAS DROPPED DOWN TO 2.78, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY REALLY GOOD TO SEE SO WELL. SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT LIKE THE AUTOMATION. IT ACTUALLY HAS A MAJOR IMPACT ON
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REDUCING COST. WE'VE ALSO SEEN. AH AT 25% REDUCTION IN CALLS PER TRIP BOOKED AND 59% REDUCTION IN CALL MINUTES PER TRIP BOOKED JUST BEING ABLE TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF IT, UM SO, SO THAT'S IT AND THEN AS A LAST SLIDE THERE, AND I WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME NUMBERS OF KIND OF A ONE OF THE EXAMPLE THINGS THAT WE COULD LOOK AT, AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO DO IT FURTHER ANALYSIS AND DELIBERATION AROUND THIS, BUT THIS ONE IS REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE PUT AN ACTUAL ABSOLUTE CAP ON THE SUBSIDY THAT WE PROVIDE TO THESE AT THESE RIGHTS, AND SO THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY IS JUST LOOKING AT. LET'S JUST PUT A CAP ON THE LIFT RIGHTS AND, UM, THE PROCESS.OBVIOUSLY WE REDUCED LIFT COST THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF OBVIOUS AND WE ALSO LOOK AND LIFT SUBSIDY OVER TIME BECAUSE THE COSTS BECOME MORE PREDICTABLE BECAUSE LIFT PRICES BECAUSE THEY'RE ON A PER TRICK BASE. THIS IS A COMPLETELY VARIABLE COST. SO YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST REALLY SCALES WITH RIDERSHIP. THE CORNER OF PROVIDING A CAP ON JUST LIFT RIGHTS, THOUGH, AND THIS IS A PRETTY BIG CON IS THAT WRITERS WHO CANNOT AFFORD EXTRA FARE COULD POTENTIALLY RETURNED TO DEDICATED VEHICLES, WHICH WAS OBVIOUSLY POINTED OUT THERE EARLIER IS A MUCH, MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE OPTION. SO THIS SHOWS YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO NEED TO HAVE A MORE LIKE HOLISTIC VIEW OF ALL THE DATA, INCLUDING THE DEDICATED COST TO DETERMINE . LIKE WHAT LEVERS WE CAN PULL AND OBVIOUSLY LOOK TO YOU ALL FOR SOME GUIDANCE ON YOU KNOW WHICH ONES YOU WOULD LIKE US TO POTENTIALLY EXPLORE MORE AND WHO? IT IS VERY POSITIVE WHO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO SERVER SERVE BETTER IN THIS SERVICE. I BELIEVE THAT WAS YEAH, I HAD. THANK YOU.
QUESTIONS, ALL RIGHT. SO, UM. AND I'M TRYING TO I'M PULLING NUMBERS AND REMEMBERING NUMBERS AND WAS KIND OF ADDING NUMBERS AS YOU ARE MOVING QUICKLY FROM SEVERAL DIFFERENT PRESENTATIONS . BUT FOR ME IF I COULD JUST RECONCILE A COUPLE OF THINGS MM. ONE SLIDE SLIDE ON THIS PRESENTATION SAID THAT IF YOU ADDED UP THE WRITERS BETWEEN THE THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES WAS 440 RIDERS. IT WAS A SLIDE EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION THAT SHOWED US UM YES, IT WOULD BE FOR 40. BUT THERE IS A SLIDE IN THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION THAT I THINK IDENTIFIED WHEN WE GOT RIDERS, UM YOU KNOW THE NUMBER OF VOTERS WE GOT EACH MONTH SINCE WE BEGAN. RIGHT THAT WAS MAYBE THE PRESENTATION BEFORE YEARS. UM I BELIEVE THAT WAS A LESSER NUMBER. YEAH I THINK THAT THERE WAS ADDED TO 403 OR SOMETHING WASN'T ON THERE. BUT JUST A QUICK GLANCE. UM PROBABLY IS THAT BECAUSE JUST THERE IS SOME DISABLED THAT ARE ALSO ELDERLY. THEY'RE JUST CROSSED OVER YET. THIS ONE. I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE MATTED UP, SO I KNOW FOR SURE. IN MY HEAD. IT'S 403 I THINK AND ARE I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER SLIDES HAD THE COST FOR 23 OF AROUND A MILLION SEVEN. JUST UNDER THAT, BECAUSE IT'S A GRAPH . I CAN'T TELL, EXACTLY SAID ORDER COSTS FOR 2023 YEARS OVERALL. ALL SUBSIDIES, RIGHT, 1.8 LITTLE OVER 1.8, RIGHT. SO 403 THAT WOULD BE 4200 ISH DOLLARS PER PERSON. IF IT'S THE 440, THAT'S $2800 SOMETHING LIKE THAT. PER PER PERSON, RIGHT, BECAUSE WE HAVE 400 IS IT FOR 40 OR 403 THAT ARE IN THE PROGRAM. WHICH ACTUALLY HAVE MORE THAN 600 IN THE PROGRAM. IT'S JUST 400. SOME ODD PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE PROGRAM SINCE JANUARY 2022. THIS CHART ONLY SHOWS NEW WRITERS APPROVED FOR SERVICE FOR EACH MONTH. THIS IS NOT THE TOTAL AMOUNT APPROVED TOTAL. YEAH SLIDE EARLIER THAT SHOWS TOTAL RIDERSHIP. HOWARD'S INCREASE. NOT HOW MANY TOTALLY RIDERS. THIS JUST SHOWS. 603,000 AND I THINK I SAID 2800 BEFORE I MEANT 3800 BEFORE IF IT WAS THE 4 40, BUT SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR, UM OUR COST PER PER RIDER THAT YOU ADD TO THE PROGRAM. SO THERE ARE HOW MANY WRITERS TOTAL NOW. 6 600 ISH CENTER. SO 3000 BUCKS A RIDER. BASICALLY IS WHAT WE'RE SPENDING A YEAR. THERE'S A THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF FIXED, COST AND UNDERSTAND. I'M JUST STILL TRYING TO. I WAS JUST ONE IN A NUMBER OF MY HEAD AND WHAT IT WAS COSTING US PER PERSON RIGHT NOW USING THAT SYSTEM. WHEN A
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NEW WRITER WOULDN'T HAVE THE SAME COSTS. EXISTING? YEAH. AND ULTIMATELY, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GONNA GO WITH THE MATH IS HOW MUCH OF THAT IS FIXED? AND WHAT IS OUR INCREMENTAL COSTS? BECAUSE THERE ARE COSTS RIGHT NOW, YOU SAID, IS 17 SOMETHING AS THE AVERAGE? YEAH, AROUND UP PERMA, RIGHT? SO IT DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT LIKE I GUESS ANOTHER WAY. I THINK WE COULD LOOK AT MARGINAL COST FOR ADDING ANY WRITER. THE TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLEXITY. WE GOT AN EMAIL EARLIER TODAY. THANK YOU FROM FROM JASMINE. AND THEY HAD A SPREADSHEET OF WRITERS VERSUS TRIPS TAKEN. AND NONE OF THESE NUMBERS CORRELATE WITH THE NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN SEEING IN THE PRESENTATION TODAY. EVEN IF YOU MAKE PEOPLE ELIGIBLE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERYONE WOULD ACTUALLY WRITE THE SERVICE. RIGHT. SOME PEOPLE GO ON VACATION. SOME PEOPLE MOVE, YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF LIKE REASONS WHY PEOPLE DON'T USE THE SERVICE. I WISH THAT SPREADSHEET THIS WAS BROUGHT UP HERE, TOO, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON HERE THAT I HAVE TO ABOUT THE RIDERSHIP LIKE IN APRIL WAS SELLING 4049 ACTUAL RIDERS. I MEAN ACTUAL TRIPS TAKEN WITH 260 RIDERS. AND THEN MAY IT'S 444 TRIPS. 263 RIDERS, SO WE WENT UP. BUT THREE RIDERS AND THEY TOOK AN ADDITIONAL 420 TRIPS. I JUST DON'T SEE HOW HOW THAT WORKS OUT. THEY ARE NOT. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE THE SAME WRITERS. FROM EACH MONTH AND EACH MONTH. SO YOU'RE NOT TAKING THOSE NOT JUST ADDING THREE WRITERS OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER OF IT COULD BE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SET OF WRITERS, AND IT COULD BE ALSO THAT YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY RETURNED FROM OCCASION AND A HEAVY USER OF THE SERVICE THAT SUDDENLY BUMPED SOMETHING NUMBERS. SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? OKAY WELL, THAT IS THE MAGIC QUESTION. COUNCILMAN BELLA OR BOARD MEMBER OF ELLER SAID THAT HE HAD QUESTIONS ON THAT.ASSUMPTIONS FOR THE THREE AND 10% GROWTH. LET ME GRAB ONE OF THOSE. WAS THAT AND THE FINANCIALS THAT ARE IN THE PACKAGE. I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT FINDING CONTROLS THAT WERE IN THE JUNE PACKAGE, BUT ME JUST LOOKING AT THOSE LIKE IN THE THREE BIG COSTS THE VARIABLE COST FIGURES. THAT WAS THE DEDICATED. YOU KNOW, ARE PROVIDED SERVICE. AND THIS IS JUST OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS. I THINK IT WAS THROUGH APRIL. SO MY DAD ARE LAGS HERE, BUT THAT COSTS FIGURE WENT DOWN THREE BOUND OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS. THE STANDARD CONTRACTOR COST WENT DOWN OVER THAT SAME PERIOD. ON A MONTHLY AVERAGE. THE NON DEDICATED WHICH IS THE LIFT WHEN UP AN AVERAGE OF 7% IN THAT PERIOD AND IN THE CALL CENTER WENT UP AN AVERAGE OF 4.6. AND SO I WHEN WE'RE MAKING THESE PROJECTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE EXPECT THE NEXT UM, YEAR TO LOOK LIKE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE PERCENTAGES ON A WHOLE OR THREE LARGE OR FOUR LARGE VARIABLE COST FIGURES HAVE GONE UP AN AVERAGE OF 3% WHEN YOUR AVERAGE DOWN DOWN SEVEN AND 4.6 THAT AVERAGES OUT TO ABOUT 3.3% OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS, BUT I GUESS NO. 10% SEEMS LIKE A NUMBER THAT WE SHOULDN'T EVEN BE. TALKING ABOUT? AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE CALL CENTER NUMBER IS THE ONE THAT YOU KNOW? WE SHOULD BE TARGETING TO GET RID OF COMPLETELY. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT IN HERE. AND I TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO THROTTLE BACK OR GOVERN THE NON DEDICATED WRITERS WHILE I THINK IT'S BENEFICIAL ALSO WHEN I AGREE WITH WHAT HE SAID, LIKE THAT'S WHAT'S KEPT THE OTHERS FROM GOING UP, RIGHT? AND THE THING TO REMEMBER. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE SO MANY MOVING PIECES TO THIS, AND WE'RE TRYING TO JUST PUT IT IN IN BITE SIZED PIECES THAT THAT WE CAN USE TO HELP MAKE OR PRESENT TO MAKE POLICY DECISIONS, BUT THE LIFT AVERAGE COST PER RIDER IS A LITTLE OVER $10. BUT WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL COSTS, WE
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HAVE WRITERS ON THERE THAT ARE GOING TO AND FROM WORK THAT IT'S $80 A TRIP. SO THERE ARE A LOT IN EVERY TIME WE ADD A PERSON THAT'S USING LIFT. YES THE AVERAGE IS LOW. BUT IS IT GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT LIVES IN MCKINNEY AND WORKS IN PLAY NOW? AND DRIVES OR TAKES LIFT DURING SURGE, PRICING OURS. AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK MY DESIRE TO MAYBE CAP THE SUBSIDY.OR LOOK AT WHAT WOULD THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT BE WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROGRAM WITH THE MCKINNEY URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT? WE LIMITED SUBSIDIES TO $400 A MONTH. AND NOW WE HAVE RIDERS THAT ARE USING 10 TIMES THAT. AND YES, IT'S FOR A GOOD A GOOD CAUSE.
THEY'RE GETTING TO AND FROM WORK, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S A TOUGH POLICY DECISION. UM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING IS JUST CAPPING THE AMOUNT THE NUMBER OF NEW RIDERS PER MONTH KEEP DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING. LOOK AT WHAT THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OR THE CONS, AS CHRISTOPHER WAS SENT MIGHT BE OF CAPPING THE SUBSIDY AT $40 PER RIDE FOR THE LIFT TO REALLY TAKE OUT THOSE HIGH USERS AND SEE WHAT THAT WHAT THAT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND DOES THAT PUSH THEM TO OTHERHE CHEAPER FOR US TO BUY A CAR FOR THIS HIGH USERS? CHEAPER TO RENT THAN A CAR CHEAPER, IT SAID. THERE'S SOME THAT ARE RIGHT? WHAT ARE WHAT ARE SOME OF THE HIGHEST USERS PER MONTH DOLLAR WISE? UM WHAT. WE CAN TRY TO FIND THIS PARACHUTING. CALCULATED. THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS YES. FOR SOME OF THEM. IT'S CHEAPER TO BUY THEM CHEAPER THAN BOTTOM OF CAR CHALLENGES. CAN THEY CAN THEY DRIVE WITH CAR THAT ARE IN THE SEVERAL THOUSANDS? ARE THEY GOING TO WORK LOOKING AT THE TOP USERS? THEY ARE GOING TO WORK. YEAH, WE DO KNOW THIS FACTUALLY.
WE KNOW THIS WE ARE IMPUTING THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE USING THE SERVICE AT 7 30 IN THE MORNING.
THEY'RE GOING FROM A FIXED LOCATION AFTERNOON AND THEY'RE GETTING PICKED UP FROM THAT LOCATION AND TAKEN BACK TO A FIXED LOCATION. SO OUR ASSUMPTION IS AND THIS IS MOSTLY YOU CAN SEE FROM THE DATA THAT THAT'S LOW INCOME RIDERS. AND THEY PRIMARILY USE THE SERVICE TO GET TO AND FROM WORK. I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE SOME EDUCATION IF WE'RE GOING TO CAP IT TO HAVE SOME EDUCATION FOR THOSE RIDERS ABOUT SURGE PRICING AND GIVE THEM THE OPTION TO. RANGER AND A RIDE THAT'S NOT DURING RUSH HOUR, RIGHT THAT COSTS FOR EVERYONE, RIGHT, ELIMINATE THEIR TRANSPORTATION TO AND FROM WORK. IT'S JUST MAYBE THERE MHM REALLY WANT TO BE THERE? RIGHT AND DOES DOES THEIR JOB ALLOW THEM TO FLEX? THEIR TIME, AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT WHERE THEY'RE GOING. AND CAN WE PULL RIDES ON SOME OF THE MECHANIC RIGHT ON THE MCKINNEY OWNED VEHICLES, YOU KNOW AND WORK WITH THE BUSINESSES, TOO, AND WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED ANY JUST OFF THAT'LL . YOU KNOW, THIS ONE REALLY STANDS OUT, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING TO COST? THE OR COUNT THE COSTS OVERRIDES WERE WORKING ON THE CALL CENTER AND GETTING THOSE PRICES DOWN NEGOTIATING, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO TALK WITH LIFT ABOUT THEIR SURGE PRICING, YOU KNOW? IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN NEGOTIATE SINCE WE'RE BUYING SO MUCH SERVICE NEGOTIATE? A REDUCTION IN IN THE SURGE PRICING. UM LOOKING AT PERHAPS A DIFFERENT PROVIDER. YOU KNOW IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET THE COST DOWN DURING SURGE, OURS, IS THERE A DIFFERENT PROVIDER THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO NEGOTIATE WITH US ON THAT. SO THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT ARE ON ON THE TABLE. UM THEY ARE THE WRITERS AWARE OF THE TOTAL COST OF THE TRIP. I DOUBT IT. I DOUBT IT. LIKE LIKE I NEED PUBLIC TRANSIT SERVICE. THE. I THINK THAT THERE IS VALUE IN LOOKING AT INDIVIDUAL CASES TO REDUCE THAT. I MEAN, I THINK AND IF WE'RE GOING TO COMMONPLACES WHERE YOU DO, RIDESHARE OR IF WE'RE WE END UP ARRANGING THAT MORE THROUGH OUR DEDICATED OR ARE OWNED VEHICLES THAT WE CREATE RIDE SHARING THAT OR IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY WORK SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ASKED THE COMPANY TO POTENTIALLY HELP SUBSIDIZE THAT. THAT WERE, UM BUT I GUESS ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS
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THAT WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT IS REDUCING THE NUMBER OF. NEW PARTICIPANTS IN THE SYSTEM. AND I GUESS I ALWAYS STRUGGLE WITH THAT AS BEING ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS THAT WE THROW OUT THERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW? ALL THOSE RENDITIONS THAT YOU WENT THROUGH OF VERSION 12 AND 3.0.LIKE THOSE THOSE FAILURES THAT HAVE HAPPENED. STICK IN PEOPLE'S MINDS AS FAR AS THE RELIABILITY OF THE SERVICE OR WHAT'S OUT THERE, AND I SEE THIS CHART AND I GUESS TO ME THAT THAT'S A SUCCESS. UM AND I WANT TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE DON'T HINDER THAT IN SOME WAY. BECAUSE WE'VE ALSO IN TERMS OF WHO WERE ULTIMATELY PROVIDING FOR WE'RE YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY LOSING RIDERS EVERY DAY, WHETHER THEY MOVE OR THEY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, WHERE THEY MAY NOT NEED THE SERVICE ANYMORE. AND SO STARTING AND STOPPING ELIGIBILITY. I THINK DOES A DISSERVICE TO US AND HOW PEOPLE VIEW THIS OR WHAT THEY EXPECT OUT OF IT. I THINK IDENTIFYING THE HIGH USERS OR TRYING TO FIND THE CAPS THAT WORK WOULD BE A BETTER OPTION. UM, AND THE CALL CENTER SEEMS LIKE A NUMBER THAT SHOULD BE CONTROLLABLE AS FAR AS SENDING PEOPLE AND JUSTIN IN. THOSE TWO.
IT SEEMS LIKE YOU COULD GET YOUR GROWTH RATES DOWN BASED OFF WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT BELOW 3% EASILY . UM AND THEN IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT MEANS FOR US WITH THAT CARES, ACT MONEY AND THOSE THINGS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YOU STILL HAVE 4 TO 5 YEAR RUN RATE ON CARES ACT. AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT WHAT WORKS BEST AND WHERE THOSE CAPS SHOULD BE. SO CONTINUE TO MONITOR IT. IT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT STAFF SUGGESTED CAPPING NEW RIDERS IS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE EXISTING WRITERS. AND IT'S NOT SAYING THAT THEY CAN'T GO ON THE SERVICE. IT'S SAYING THERE ARE 10 THAT CAN GO ON THIS MONTH. THERE ARE THE NEXT 10 THAT GO ON THE NEXT MONTH. AND YOU KNOW IT'S PUTTING THEM ON A WAITING LIST. SO IT'S NOT SAYING YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET SERVICE. BUT WE REALLY WANTED, YOU KNOW ONE OF THE DIRECTIONS WHEN AND UTD WAS FIRST FORMED WAS DON'T PUT OUT MORE SERVICE, THEN WE CAN SUSTAIN AND WE'VE KIND OF DONE THAT. I MEAN, WE CAN SUSTAIN IT FOR A FEW YEARS WITH THE CARES ACT FUNDING. BUT TO NOT IMPACT CURRENT WRITERS. YOU KNOW, IN A SUBSTANTIAL WAY, THE LIMITING NEW RIDERS TO US WAS A LOGICAL WAY TO DO THAT. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A BIGGER CONVERSATION TO HAVE AND THAT WHETHER WE'RE TALKING 7% 3% 1.5% WE'RE TALKING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 24 AND SIX YEARS OF RUNWAY AND THEN WE'RE OUT OF MONEY. SO. WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT IS THAT LOOK LIKE WHEN THERE'S NO MORE SEVEN POINT WHATEVER THAT NUMBER WAS. 6 MILLION CARES ACT REMAINING RIGHT AND ALSO KIND OF THE MANAGEMENT OF EXPECTATIONS IF WE PROVIDE THIS LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AND THEN SAY OOPS, WE'RE OUT OF MONEY. YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIMITING YOU TO $400 A MONTH. THEN THAT'S THAT'S A LOT DIFFERENT CONVERSATION THAN WORKING TO START. YOU KNOW, JUST VERY SLOWLY. CAPPING SOME THINGS YOU KNOW, BRINGING DOWN THE HIGHEST COSTS WORKING ON THOSE THINGS. AND THEN ALSO TO ADD TO THIS. WE HAVE THE WHOLE NOW WE'RE IN A LARGER URBAN AREA. WE'RE GONNA BE YOU KNOW THERE. THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS SO MANY UNKNOWNS OUT THERE, BUT WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT WE HAVE A LIMITED POOL OF MONEY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO FUEL THIS GROWTH WITHIN, AND STAFF DOESN'T FEEL THAT IT'S SUSTAINABLE OVER THE LONG RUN.
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? YES WHEN WE START DOING FIXED ROUTE, THE. PROBLEM WITH THAT IS YOU GOTTA FIX DROUGHT. AND BECAUSE MCKINNEY IS SO LARGE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE. MAYBE IT'S AN HOUR, RIGHT FROM POINT TO POINT. AND THEN WE HAVE TO UM I KNOW IT RUN OVER TIME, AND I'M HAPPY TO DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU OUTSIDE THIS MEETING. I DIDN'T WELL, PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. IT'S SOMETHING IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT. BUT WHEN YOU DO FIX ROUTE, THEN YOU HAVE TO DO PARATRANSIT SERVICE, WHICH IS IT'S REQUIRED BY FTAS REQUIRED BY LAW, AND IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE AND YOU HAVE TO DO IT WITHIN A CERTAIN RADIUS OF THE FIXED ROUTE FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS IT. BUT I DIDN'T COME UP WITH A QUICK FIXES. WHAT YOU'RE NOT NOT THIS TIME, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS NEXT TIME. THANK YOU.THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING BRAVE. AND SO ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR TODAY OR WILL CHEW ON THIS AND COME BACK FOR RECOMMENDATIONS AT THE NEXT MEETING AND MAYBE LOOK MORE INTO THE CAPPING AND WHAT THE ISSUES WITH THAT MIGHT BE, AND, UM THE AH, YEAH. COLLIN COUNTY TRANSIT
[Collin County Transit Program Updates Implementation]
PROGRAM UPDATES AS A NO ACTION ITEM. CAN YOU GO INTO THE FISCAL YEAR? 24 BUDGET? SURE. REAL[Consider/Discuss/Act on Ratifying the MUTD Budget for Fiscal Year 2023-24 as Adopted by the McKinney City Council on September 5, 2023]
QUICK. ON THAT. GO DOWN. ERIC THE CONTINUATION FISCAL YEAR 23 24 WHAT TIME PERIOD IS THAT? 23 24. SO THAT'S FOR 24. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT OCTOBER. RIGHT OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH A SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 2024 THE CATCH WITH THE REVISED IS THE CAR DARK CONTRACT RUNS THROUGH THE END OF DECEMBER . YOU'RE ONLY RUNS THROUGH THE END OF SEPTEMBER, SO THAT $700,000 AND THAT FIGURE DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, THE 1.367 IS ONLY THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH. SO THAT'S WHAT THE DELTA IS RIGHT.DO WE NEED TO ACT ON THIS ITEM? AH YES. YES, PLEASE. IT'S TOO. THIS IS ALREADY PACKED. IT'S JUST GIVE YOU DIRECTION. WELL SO THIS IS THE BUDGET ITEM AND IT'S TO RATIFY. CITY COUNCIL HAS ALREADY ADOPTED THE BUDGET, BUT IT'S TO RATIFY CITY COUNCIL'S ADOPTION OF FY 24 BUDGET. SO THIS IS ITEM 2 TO 3 DAYS, 0509. I'M CONSIDERING DISCUSS ACTOR IN RATIFYING THE MUTV BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 2024 AS ADOPTED BY THE MCKINNEY CITY COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER, 5TH. IF YOU CAN GO BACK INTO THAT, JASMINE I THINK THIS IS MAYBE. CHART NOT TO GET BACK INTO THE CHART. THING, BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE SHOWING IN THE CONTINUATION. THE 1.5 AND . FEDERAL GRANTS OF WHICH 7 95 IS FROM CARES IN 24. AND THEN THE 8 46 AND STATE GRANTS, WHICH IS THE TEXT ON AND WE THOUGHT THAT THOSE MAY HAVE BEEN TRANSPOSED IN THAT GRAPH THE GRAPH MATCHES THIS. WHICH ONLY SHOWS 800,000 IN CARES FUNDING. IN 2024 BECAUSE OF THAT ADDITIONAL STATE MONEY. RIGHT SO THE 8 46 IS THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND ENOUGH. 24 EXPIRES. 8 31. OKAY 31 24 SO THAT 8 46 IS THE CARRYOVER THAT WAS CORRECT. THE CHART. THAT SURE. WE ONLY SPENT ABOUT 800,000 AND CARES ACT IN 2024 WAS THE ONE THAT WAS CORRECT. THE ORIGINAL CHART THAT WE THOUGHT WAS TRANSPOSED. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT AND IT'S YEAH, SO IT'S 1.156 OR 1.556 WITH CARES ACT AND 53 07 OPERATING BECAUSE THAT IS 8 46. UM WHICH IS A CARRYOVER BUT GENERALLY WICKED 450. YEAH SO THE CHART WAS RIGHT. BUT THE ASSUMPTION THAT AND WITH A 3% GROWTH RATE IN 2024, WE WOULD SPEND ONE POINT 8 MILLION AND CARES ACT AS NOT BECAUSE I WAS ASSUMING THE 4 50 THAT'S CORRECT. DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM. I GET A MOTION. SO MOVED.
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FAVOR. POST. PASSES. LAST ITEM IS PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA. DON'T HAVE SPEAK. FOR GERMAN. SO MOVED SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, ALRIGHT? GOOD ALRIGHT, BUT THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.