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GOOD EVENING.

IT'S 6:00 PM

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WELCOME TO TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2023.

THE COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU SEE SEATED BEFORE YOU HAVE BEEN APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND WE SERVE WITH THE PLEASURE OF THAT SAME CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT, SOME OF OUR AGENDA ITEMS WILL GO ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

IF YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT, TO PARTICIPATE IN A PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF OUR, UH, OF OUR MEETING.

A FEW HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS BEFORE YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE FILL OUT ONE OF THE YELLOW SPEAKER CARDS.

THOSE CARDS ARE ON THE TABLE OUTSIDE THE ROOM THERE, AND YOU COME TO THE, TO THE, UH, PODIUM.

HAND YOUR CARD TO ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS TO YOUR RIGHT.

WHEN YOU SPEAK, PLEASE FACE PLANNING AND ZONING SO THE CAMERAS CAN SEE YOUR FACE AND THE MICROPHONE CAN PICK UP WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

IT'S REAL IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHAT YOU SAY WILL GO ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

AS PART OF OUR MINUTES, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR CONCERNS.

WE DO APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

IT IS IMPORTANT THAT CITIZENS OF MCKINNEY ARE INVOLVED IN THIS GOVERNMENT PROCESS.

WHEN WE GET TO THOSE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, I'LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER REMINDER OF HOW, HOW THE EVENING WILL FLOW.

BUT UNTIL THEN, WE WILL HAVE SOME, UM, PLAN ITEMS AND SOME MINUTES TO APPROVE.

WE MAY GO FAIRLY QUICKLY, BUT I PROMISE YOU WE'LL SLOW DOWN WHEN IT'S TIME FOR, FOR PARTICIPATION.

OKAY.

THE FIRST ITEM WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED, THAT IS ON THE AGENDA.

AND EXAMPLE WOULD BE THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING OR ONE OF THE PLAT CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE HAVE TONIGHT.

SO IF YOU'VE COME TONIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS PLANNING AND ZONING REGARDING, BLESS YOU, A NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.

PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.

ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NOW, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT ITEM, WHICH IS THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.

ITEM TWO THREE DASH 7 8 3 MINUTES OF THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF SEPTEMBER THE 12TH, 2023 MEMBERS QUESTIONS OR MOTIONS ON THE MINUTES? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF OUR SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2012 2023 MEETING.

ALRIGHT, MOTION ON MR. LEBO TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.

SECOND, SECOND ON MR. WOODRUFF.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.

ALRIGHT, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO OUR PLATT CONSIDERATION.

UH, MEMBERS, I'M AWARE OF ONE PULL DOWN THAT WE HAVE.

THAT WOULD BE TWO THREE DASH 0 1 8 0 C V P.

THAT IS A, UH, CONVEYANCE PLAT FOR VIRGINIA PARKWAY AND CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY.

DO WE HAVE OTHERS? ANY OTHER PULL DOWNS? THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF ALL ITEMS WITH CONDITIONS.

IF IT'S THE PLEASURE OF PLANNING AND ZONING, WE'LL JUST TAKE ALL OF THESE ITEMS IN ONE MOTION MINUS THE PULL DOWN.

VERY GOOD.

I'LL READ THOSE CAPTIONS.

FIRST ITEM IS TWO THREE DASH 0 1 7 1 C V P A CONVEYANCE PLAT FOR LODGE TWO R AND THREE BLOCK A OF THE WESTRIDGE 12 EDITION.

THIS IS AT 1600 SOUTHUM INDEPENDENCE PARKWAY.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.

THE NEXT PLAT IS TWO THREE DASH 0 1 7 2 FP.

A FINAL PLATT FOR TRINITY FALLS PLANNING UNIT FOUR, PHASE ONE.

THIS IS AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF TRINITY FALLS PARKWAY AND PARKLAND CRESCENT STAFF IS RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.

THE NEXT ITEM IS TWO THREE DASH 0 1 7 3.

A FINAL PLAN FOR THE CHILDREN'S LIGHTHOUSE OLYMPIC CROSSING EDITION LOT ONE BLOCK A.

THIS IS AT 1100.

OLYMPIC CROSSING STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.

AND OUR LAST, UH, PLATT IN THIS GROUP IS TWO THREE DASH 180 2 C V P A CONVEYANCE PLATT FOR LOTS.

ONE R TWO A AND ONE R TWO B BLOCK A OF THE STONEBRIDGE UNITED METHODIST CHURCH EDITION.

THIS IS AT 1800 SOUTH STONEBRIDGE DRIVE.

MEMBERS QUESTIONS OR MOTIONS MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PLA CONSIDERATIONS WITH, UH, CONDITIONS AS NOTED IN STAFF REPORTS.

A MOTION BY MR. MANZA TO APPROVE THE PLAN ITEMS TONIGHT, UH, WITH CONDITIONS AS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORTS A SECOND, SECOND BY MR. STROM.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE AS THAT MOTION CARRIES MR. WOODRUFF.

YEAH.

UH, THE ITEM.

UH, NEXT ITEM.

UH, ONE FINAL PLAN TONIGHT IS TWO THREE DASH 0 1 8 0 A CONVEYANCE SP PLATT FOR LOTS.

ONE TO THREE BLOCK A OF THE G B T SPROUTS MCKINNEY EDITION.

THIS IS AT THE

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SOUTHWEST CORNER OF VIRGINIA PARKWAY AND SOUTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY.

QUESTIONS MOTIONS.

I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THIS PLATT, UH, 0 1 8 0 C CVP MOTION BY MR. STAFF.

CONDITIONS TO APPROVE, UH, THE ITEM AS PER STAFF.

UH, COMMENTS SECOND.

SECOND BY MR. MANZA.

ANY DISCUSSION, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

UH, OKAY.

WE'LL

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to Modify the Development Standards and to Allow for Multi-Family Residential Uses, Located on the Southwest Corner of McKinney Ranch Parkway and Collin McKinney Parkway]

NOW GO TO OUR, UM, PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. WE'LL SLOW THE PACE OF PLAY DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

UM, IF YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON ONE OF THE ITEMS, WE'LL READ THE ITEM NUMBER AND THEN THE CAPTION, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE THE STAFF REPORT, AND THEN THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE A REPORT, AND THEN WE WILL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING.

AGAIN, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS.

WE DO APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

SO LET'S START THIS PROCESS.

FIRST ITEM IS TWO THREE DASH 0 0 5 7 Z TWO, A PUBLIC HEARING TO REZONE A PROPERTY FROM C TWO LOCAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO C THREE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

THIS IS AT 2 1 5 1 NORTH HARDIN BOULEVARD.

YOU'RE NOT MR. BENNETT? OH, I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

RUN THE TAPE BACK.

.

YOU GUYS, LET ME GET ALL THE WAY THROUGH THAT AND NO ONE'S SAID YOU'RE DOING THE WRONG ONE, .

OKAY.

YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, GIMME ONE SECOND.

ITEM TWO THREE DASH 0 5 4 Z TO A PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, TO REQUEST A REZONE OF A PROPERTY FROM PD, UH, TO PD TO MODIFY, MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND TO ALLOW FOR MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES.

THIS IS ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF MCKINNEY RANCH PARKWAY AND COLLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? OOH, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? OKAY, I'LL REPEAT AGAIN.

UM, GOOD EVENING.

PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF, UH, MCKINNEY.

UH, THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS A REQUEST FOR, UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO REZONE FROM PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO, UH, PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT GENERALLY TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND TO ALLOW FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE.

LOCATED, AGAIN, AS MENTIONED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF MCKINNEY RANCH PARKWAY AND COLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY.

AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY 18 ACRES IN SIZE.

THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE PROPERTY.

WHILE IT IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, THE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE SITE ALLOWS FOR AGRICULTURAL USES ON THE PROPERTY.

CURRENTLY, UM, FOR THIS PRESENTATION, WHILE THERE ARE SEVERAL NOTED, UH, STANDARD DEVIATIONS ON THE STAFF REPORT, UM, I DID WANNA HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE MOST NOTABLE, UH, DEVIATIONS THAT STAFF HAS CONCERNED.

I DON'T WANNA LESSEN ANY OF THE OTHER, UM, DEVIATIONS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE IT FOR, UH, THIS PRESENTATION.

UM, FOR THE FIRST ONE, UH, THE PROPERTY IS LISTED AS MENTIONED ENTERTAINMENT CENTER, PLACE, PLACE TYPE UNDER THE COLIN MCKINNEY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IN THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UM, WHICH, UH, WHICH ALLOWS FOR RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL USES.

THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO PD TO ALLOW FOR MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES AND MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

STAFF HAS CONCERNED THAT THE MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES PROPOSED DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE ENTERTAINMENT CENTER PLACE TYPE OR THE INTENT OF THE COLIN MCKINNEY, UH, DISTRICT, COMMERCIAL DISTRICT FOR THIS AREA TO REALIZE THAT SHOPPING, DINING, AND ENTERTAINMENT CHOICES THAT SUPPORT MCKINNEY RESIDENTS, ALTHOUGH SOME RESIDENTIAL USES ARE CONTEMPLATED IN THE ENTERTAINMENT, UH, CENTER PLACE TYPE STAFF NOTES THAT THE IMMEDIATE AREA IS ALREADY HOME TO 1,800, UM, RESIDENTIAL, UH, EXISTING OR PLAN MULTI-FAMILY UNITS, BUT NOT NOTABLE RETAIL OR SERVICE USES.

UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT STAFF LOOKS AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS A TOOL, UH, FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT LAND FOR FUTURE OF DEVELOPMENT OF THE LAND FOR THE NEXT 10 TO 20 YEARS, AS WELL AS MARKET CYCLES FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

IN ADDITION, UH, THE NEWLY ADOPTED UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, UH, INCLUDES MODERNIZED MULTIFAMILY SONY DISTRICT THAT HAS A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 30 UNITS PER THE ACRE, ALSO KNOWN AS MF 30 DISTRICT.

THE, UH, DISTRICT IN ASSOCIATED DENSITY WAS ASSIGNED, UH, DESIGNATED TO ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT OF TRADITIONAL NON-URBAN MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS IN MULTIFAMILY, IN MCKINNEY, EXCUSE ME, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM DENSITY FROM 30 TO TH UH, 30 TO 38 UNITS PER ACRE, AND HAS CITED SEVERAL REASONS FOR THIS REQUEST.

MOST

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NOTABLY, THE APPLICANT INDICATES THAT THE FUTURE EX, UH, EXTENSION OF THE COLLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY WILL DIVIDE THE TRACK IN A MANNER THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

THE APPLICANT, UH, ALSO NOTES THAT FLOODPLAIN ALONG THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, NOTED HERE, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, COLIN MCKINNEY, UH, PARKWAY WOULD COME ALONG THIS AREA FLOODPLAIN HAS BEEN INDICATED SOMEWHERE AROUND THIS AREA.

JUST TO NOTE HERE IN THE MAP, UM, ALSO NOTES THAT FLOW POINT ALONG THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, APPROXIMATELY FOUR ACRES ALSO MAKES DEVELOPMENT DIFFICULT.

UM, THE UN THE ANTICIPATED ALIGNMENT OF THE COLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY THROUGH THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WOULD, UH, CREATE AN APPROXIMATELY 8.5 ACRE TRACK ON THE NORTH AND NORTH SIDE OF THE ROADWAY, WHICH COULD ALLOW A MAXIMUM OF 255 UNITS UNDER THE TYPICAL DENSITY OF 30 UNITS PER ACRE.

AN INCREASE IN DENSITY TO THE 30 UNITS PER ACRE WOULD ALLOW A MAXIMUM OF TWO OF 323 RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO THE ACRE.

SO THIS IS NOTED AS, UH, THE NORTH TRACK AND THIS IS THE SOUTH TRACK.

WHILE THE ALIGNMENT OF THE COLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY COULD CHANGE SLIGHTLY TO INCREASE THE RESULTING SIZE OF THE NORTHERN TRACK, A SHIFTED ALIGNMENT HAS NOT BEEN FORMALLY REVIEWED OR AG, UH, AGREED UPON.

SO THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY TO SAY THAT THIS IS GONNA BE THE EXACT ALIGNMENT.

IT COULD SHIFT POTENTIALLY, BUT THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY AGREEMENT OR REVIEW PER STAFF.

FURTHERMORE, THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO REZONE THE ENTIRE PROPERTY FOR MULTI-FAMILY USES WOULD STILL ALLOW FOR DEVELOPABLE PORTIONS OF THE SOUTH OF THE FUTURE OF COLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY TO DEVELOP FOR MULTIFAMILY AT A DENSITY OF 38 UNITS PER ACRE.

STAFF RECOGNIZES THE IMPACT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION AND FLOODPLAIN HAVE ON THE PROPERTY'S DEVELOP DEVELOPABILITY.

HOWEVER, IT IS WORTH NOTING THAT THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION IS A STANDARD REQUIREMENT FOR ALL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, AND THAT THE, THE, THE ANTICIPATION OF THE 70 FEET FOR THE COLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY ON THIS PROPERTY IS NOT AN EXTRAORDINARY IN NATURE.

UM, COLIN MC COLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY IS A MASTER PLAN ARTERIAL THAT HAS BEEN SHOWN ON THE CITY'S MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN SINCE TWO, SINCE, UH, 2010.

FOR REFERENCE PROPERTIES ALONG NOT YET CONSTRUCTED, ARTERIALS TYPICALLY DEDICATE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 50 TO 70 FEET OF RIGHT AWAY FOR THE ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE.

WITH THIS IN MIND, WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL PRESIDENT THAT COULD BE SET BY FAULT, ALLOWING INCREASES IN DENSITIES DUE TO STANDARDS, DEDICATION, REQUIREMENTS FOR MASTER PLAN ROADWAYS AND OTHER UTILITIES.

UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE EXPANSION OF COLLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY WOULD ALSO, UH, INCREASE POTENTIAL ACCESS AND VOLUMES THROUGH THE SITE, WITH ALSO WITH THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO SUPPORT FUTURE COMMERCIAL SITES.

IT IS ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT THE CITY'S MAXIMUM DENSITY CALCULATIONS FOR RESIDENTIAL USES ARE BASED ON THE GROSS AREA OF THE TRACK.

THEREFORE, THE PRESENCE OF THE FLOODWAY, AS NOTED HERE ON THE MAP, DOES NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE OVERALL UNIT COUNT THAT COULD BE ACHIEVED ACROSS THE ENTIRE TRACK.

AS SUCH, STAFF DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT THE EXTENSION OF THE COLIN MCKINNEY, UH, PARKWAY OR THE PRESENCE OF THE FLOODWAY IS A CONSTRAINT THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR INCREASING THE DENSITY BEYOND THE TYPICAL ALLOWANCE OF 30 UNITS PER ACRE.

LASTLY, MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES REQUIRE A SIX FOOT MASONRY SCREENING WALL ALONG THE REAR AND SIDE PROPERTY LINES.

AS PART OF THE REZONING REQUEST, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO UTILIZE A SIX FOOT TUBULAR STEEL OR ROD IRON FENCES WITH MASONRY COLUMNS, AS WELL AS EVERGREEN SCREENINGS RATHER THAN A SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL.

THE DEVIATION FROM THIS SCREENING REQUIREMENTS ARE USUALLY CONSIDERED WHEN PROPOSED.

UH, ADJACENT SCREENING IS TO FLOOD WHEN PROPOSED SCREENING IS ADJACENT TO FLOODPLAIN, OR IT IS UNIQUELY ABUTTING ANOTHER EXISTING MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, OR WHEN THE PROJECT IS BUILDING IN AN URBAN MANNER WITHIN THE URBAN AREA.

THE MASONRY SCREENING REQUIREMENT WOULD ONLY BE APPLICABLE TO THE WESTERN BOUNDARY ALONG THIS AREA.

LEMME PICK A DIFFERENT COLOR HERE.

ALONG THIS AREA OF THE TRACK, WE'RE ADJACENT TO UNDE, UH, WE'RE ADJACENT TO UNDEVELOPED LAND COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND ENCORE SUBSTATION.

SO THIS WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THIS AREA HERE AND THIS AREA HERE, AND POTENTIALLY THIS AREA HERE, WHEREVER THE ALIGNMENT OF THE ROAD FOLLOWS.

SOMEWHERE IN HERE, THE TRACK WE'RE , THE TRACK WERE ADJACENT TO, UH, UNDEVELOPED COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

AND THE ENCORE SUBSTATION, AS MENTIONED BEFORE HERE, NOTED AS PROPOSED STAFF, DOES NOT NOTE ANY SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS WHY THE TYPICAL SCREENING REQUIREMENTS COULD NOT BE MET FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

GIVEN THE NUMBER OF CONCERNS REGARDING THE PROPOSED MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES AND REDUCTIONS TO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OUTLINED, STAFF

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RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE REQUEST, AND I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, ARI.

MM-HMM.

QUESTIONS? ANYONE? UH, COULD YOU PLEASE DISCUSS THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE OLD PD VERSUS A NEW PD? SURE.

SO FOR THE, UNDER THE CURRENT, UH, UNDER OUR U D C CODE, WE REQUIRE FOR MULTI-FAMILY TWO PARKING SPACES PER UNIT.

AND, UH, 30% OF THOSE REQUIRE PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED TO BE ENCLOSED, UH, UNDER THE PROPOSED REQUIREMENT FOR, UH, THE OLD OR WHAT WE CALL THE CODE PRIOR TO THE NEW ADOPTION CODE, WE REQUIRE ONE PARKING, ONE PARKING SPACE PER UNIT, AND THEN 0.5 PER, UM, UH, BEDROOMS. SO DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS IN THE UNIT.

OTHER QUESTIONS, ARI? THANK YOU.

IS THERE APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT? YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

UH, OCCUPATION? MY NAME'S BILL STROM, UH, 2323 ROSS AVENUE.

I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE, KEVIN KOONZ WITH, UH, ALLEN JOHNSON TO DEVELOP A HARRISON DEVELOPMENT, EXCUSE ME.

AND, UM, WE'VE GOT A, A PRESENTATION.

I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP, SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING THE COMP PLAN, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, SITE ISSUES.

BUT, UM, APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT.

WE THINK THAT THIS IS A REASONABLE PRACTICAL REQUEST GIVEN THE LAND USES THIS RUNNING LAND USES, UH, ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY, GIVEN THE, UH, LAND USE PATTERN IN THIS AREA, WE THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING JUST JUST MAKES SENSE, AND THERE IS AN EXPLANATION OF, UH, THE REASON WE'RE COMING IN FOR 38 VERSUS 30.

WE'VE GOT A 16 ACRE TRACT OF LAND THAT WE WANNA DEVELOP WITH 385 UNITS, BUT BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME IN AND REPL IN ORDER TO PUT IN THE STREET, IT CUTS OUR PROPERTY BASICALLY IN A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN HALF.

SO IN ORDER TO CALCULATE THE 385 UNITS ON THE NORTHERN DEVELOPABLE TRACT, WE HAD TO COME IN WITH THE 38 UNITS PER ACRE, AND THAT'S, THAT WAS WITH THE DIRECTION OF STAFF.

UM, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE, THE, THE LAND USE PLAN, AS WAS STATED, UM, WE THINK WE, WE ARE CONSISTENT AND, AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UH, THE, UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, DOES STATE THAT THIS IS, UH, THE COLIN MCKINNEY AREA, UH, AND IT, IT DOES WITHIN THE COLIN COMMITTEE, COLIN MCKINNEY, UH, AREA.

IT DOES, UH, STATE THAT THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, IT DOES STATE THAT THE ENTERTAINMENT CENTER IS A PLACE TYPE PERMITTED ON THIS PROPERTY.

AND WITHIN THE, THE, UH, ENTERTAINMENT CENTER PLACE TYPE, IT STATES THAT RESIDENTIAL IS, IS APPROPRIATE TO SUPPORT THE, THE, UH, UH, COLIN MCKINNEY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

NOW, THE COLIN COMMIT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO BE, UH, A MIXED USE REGIONAL, UH, DESTINATION TYPE DEVELOPMENT.

SO, RESIDENTIAL DOES MAKE SENSE FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, UH, AND IT DOES MAKE SENSE THAT, UH, RESIDENTIAL DOES, IS INCORPORATED INTO THE SURROUNDING LAND USES.

BUT I WANNA ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THE, THE SPECIFIC ISSUES AND, AND WHY WE THINK THAT WE DO COMPLY.

UH, AS FAR AS COMPLIANCE WITH THE VISION, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE THESE, THERE ARE THE 10 PRINCIPLES, 10 CRITERIA THAT WE NEED TO CONFORM TO.

AND WITH AS FAR AS THE VISION GOES, WE BELIEVE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING AN INVITING PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S CREATING A PLACE OF LASTING VALUE.

UH, IT'S GONNA BE A SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT, OPEN SPACE, SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPE, LANDSCAPE, SIGNIFICANT ARCHITECTURE, AND IT WILL CONTINUE MCKINNEY'S BEING A TOP PLACE TO LIVE.

WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT, UH, AS FAR AS THE DIVERSITY GOES, AS ONE OF THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, WE BELIEVE WE SATISFY THE DIVERSITY GUIDING PRINCIPLE BY BROADENING THE TAX BASE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE PRINCIPLES, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, BY PROVIDING HOUSING OPTIONS AND NEIGHBORHOOD CHOICES THAT ARE ACCESSIBLE AND THAT ARE ATTAINABLE AND APPEALING TO PEOPLE OF ALL STAGES OF THEIR LIVES.

SO THAT'S ONE, ONE ELEMENT OF THE VISION, ONE OF THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES UNDER THE VISION.

ANOTHER IS ASSETS.

OUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SATISFIES THE ASSETS GUIDING PRINCIPLE BY PRESERVING SLOAN CREEK.

SO WE ARE GONNA PRESERVE SLOAN CREEK, WANNA MAKE THAT AN OPEN SPACE ACCESSIBLE TO ALL, AND, UH, THE OPEN SPACES SURROUNDING IT AND PROPOSE TO KEEP THIS AREA PROTECTED AS USABLE OPEN SPACE.

SO, UM, THAT IS A, A, A MAJOR AMENITY, WE BELIEVE IS, IS ATTRACTIVE FOR NOT JUST THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR THE, FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY.

ANOTHER, ANOTHER GUIDING PRINCIPLE FOR THE CITY'S VISION, UH, PLACES, UH, STRENGTHENING THE CONNECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

WE ARE SPECIFICALLY DOING THIS.

WE ARE PROVIDING, WE'LL BE PROVIDING THE NECESSARY RIGHT OF WAY, UM, FOR THE,

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THE EXTENSION OF THE ROADWAY, EXCUSE THE COLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY.

AND AS WAS SEEN ON THE PLAN THAT WAS SHOWN EARLIER, THAT'S GONNA GO RIGHT THROUGH OUR PROPERTY.

SO THAT IS ONE OF THE OTHER GUIDING PRINCIPLES UNDER THE VISIONS, THE, THE VISION, UH, FOR THE, UH, UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AS FAR AS INVESTMENTS GO, CREATING LASTING VALUE, OBVIOUSLY WE ARE CREATING LASTING VALUE.

UH, THIS IS A LONG-TERM DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS A VERY HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT.

UM, AND WE'RE PROVIDING A, A DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL HAVE LASTING VALUE AND MEETS THE NEEDS OF CURRENT AND, AND FUTURE RESIDENTS OF MCKINNEY.

SO, AS FAR AS THE, THE FIRST LEG OF LAND USE, COMPAT, LAND USE DIAGRAM COMPATIBILITY, WE BELIEVE WE FURTHERED THE CITY'S VISION.

UH, AS FAR AS THE, THE REST OF THE NINE, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL TRY TO GO THROUGH 'EM A LITTLE QUICKER, BUT THERE ARE NINE ADDITIONAL PRINCIPLES THAT WE NEED TO CONFORM TO, OR AT LEAST THE MAJORITY OF 'EM WE NEED TO CONFORM TO.

UH, ENTERTAINMENT, UH, USES ALSO, AS WAS STATED, UH, ARE, DO SUPPORT RESIDENTIAL USES.

RESIDENTIAL USES THAT SUPPORT THE OTHER MIXED USES WITHIN THE ENTERTAINMENT CENTER.

UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PRINCIPLES IS WE MUST ALSO DEMONSTRATE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE DISTRICT'S IDENTITY AND BRAND.

AND AGAIN, RESIDENTIAL USES ARE GONNA BE PART OF THAT.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, UNDER THE MF 30 STANDARDS, THE NEW STANDARDS, THE MF 30 STANDARDS STATE THAT, UM, THIS DISTRICT, THE MF 30 DISTRICT, IS GENERALLY APPROPRIATE WITHIN THE FOLLOWING PLACE TYPES IN ONE MCKINNEY 2040 CONFERENCE PLAN, URBAN LIVING, TRANSIT READY DEVELOPMENT.

AND IT SPECIFICALLY STATES EMPLOYMENT CENTER.

SO AGAIN, WE ARE COMPLYING WITH THE CITY'S CONFERENCE PLAN AS IT RELATES TO LAND USE AND, UH, THE, THE VISION, LEVERAGE AND PROTECT NATURAL AND BUILT AMENITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

AGAIN, WE ARE PRESERVING SLOAN CREEK.

WE WANNA MAKE SLOAN CREEK AN AMENITY.

WE ARE PROVIDING THE CONNECTIVITY, UM, TO, UH, AND THE ADDITIONAL RIDE OF WAY FOR THE, THE EXTENSION OF CALLING MCKINNEY PARKWAY.

SO, AGAIN, ANOTHER ELEMENT, ANOTHER PROVISION OR POLICY UNDER THE CONFERENCE PLAN.

WE, WE, WE ARE SQUARE ON AND WE SPECIFICALLY SUPPORT, UH, ANOTHER POLICY IS THE STRENGTH THAT OUR CREATE CONNECTIONS TO ACTIVITY CENTERS AND BEYOND THE DISTRICT.

WELL, AGAIN, PROVIDING THE ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY FOR COLUMN MCKINNEY PARKWAY.

DOES THAT CREATE A POSITIVE FISCAL IMPACT FOR THE CITY THROUGH A TIMEFRAME? UH, WITHIN THE PLAN, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY GONNA BE INCREASING, COMING WITH A LARGE DEVELOPMENT, INCREASING THE PROPERTY TAX FOR THE CITY FOR THE NEAR FUTURE AND, AND THE LONG TERM.

UH, AS IT RELATES TO DEMONSTRATING THE, UH, FISCAL, UH, I KNOW THERE WAS AN, A, A COMPONENT, UH, STATEMENT IN THIS COMPREHEND, I'M SORRY, THE STAFF'S REPORTS, EXCUSE ME, THE STAFF'S REPORT CONCERNING THE, UH, FISCAL ANALYSIS AND, AND NOT COMPLYING, UH, POTENTIAL DEFICIT.

WE BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THE NUMBERS ARE, ARE OFF.

UM, WE BELIEVE THAT THE, UH, TOTAL HOUSEHOLDS WERE DRAMATICALLY OVERSTATED IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND THE VALUES WERE DRAMATICALLY UNDERSTATED.

SO WE BELIEVE THAT BASED ON THE NUMBERS WE'VE SEEN THAT WE'RE USING, UH, THAT THERE IS NO, UH, DEFICIT AS FAR AS THE FISCAL MODEL ANALYSIS GOES.

UM, SO AGAIN, FROM A A LAND USE PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, WE BELIEVE THAT WE FIT SQUARELY WITHIN THE CITY'S CONFERENCE PLAN.

WE FURTHER, FURTHER THE CITY'S VISION.

WE PROVIDE A LAND USE THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE, THE DISTRICT.

UH, AGAIN, WE PROVIDE THE, UH, FINANCIAL, UH, ANALYSIS THAT THAT SHOWS, UH, THERE IS NO DEFICIT DOWN THE ROAD.

WE PROVIDE THE CONNECTIVITY, WE PROVIDE THE OPEN SPACE, WE PROTECT THE LAND.

UH, AGAIN, I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW, AS DEVELOPERS AND PLANNERS, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS DOES FIT SQUARELY AND SATISFY SATISFIES THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND FURTHER, AS THE CITY'S CONFERENCE PLAN AND VISION.

I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO KEVIN KONZ, WHO'S GOING TO PROVIDE MORE BACKGROUND ON ALAN HARRISON AND THE DEVELOPMENT, AND SPECIFICALLY SOME OF THE OTHER DETAILS THAT WERE RAISED DURING THE, UH, STAFF PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU, BILL.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS KEVIN KONZ, 83 50 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY.

I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE ALLEN HARRISON COMPANY.

UH, WE ARE THE OWNER, DEVELOPER, AND GENERAL CONTRACTOR ON THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

UM, SO QUICKLY, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME BRIEF BACKGROUND ON US AS A COMPANY.

WE ARE A TEXAS-BASED CLASS, A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION FIRM, FOUNDED IN 2010.

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WE'RE A RELATIVELY SMALL GROUP.

WE HAVE ANYWHERE, UM, BETWEEN TWO AND FOUR PROJECTS GOING ON AT, UH, ANY ONE TIME, WHICH GIVES US, UM, SIGNIFICANT TIME TO DEVOTE TO EACH OF THESE PROJECTS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, DO A THOUGHTFUL DESIGN AND, AND MAKE SURE WE EXECUTE WELL ON EACH OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS.

UM, YOU KNOW, DESPITE BEING, UH, A LITTLE BIT SMALLER OF A GROUP, WE, WE BRING SIGNIFICANT EXPERIENCE GAIN THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF OVER 23,000 UNITS THROUGHOUT, UH, THROUGHOUT TEXAS.

SO THEN, SPECIFICALLY ON THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW, AS IT'S BEEN SAID, WE'RE PROPOSING NO MORE THAN 385 UNITS, UM, AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER HERE OF MCKINNEY RANCH PARKWAY AND COLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD A FOUR STORY COMPLEX ELEVATOR SERVICE WITH, UH, SURFACE PARKING.

THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD, UH, BE HIGHLY AMENITIZED WITH RESORT STYLE POOL, COMMERCIAL GRADE FITNESS CENTER, COWORKING LOUNGE, DOG PARK, EV CHARGING, AND, UH, LARGE COMMUNITY GREEN SPACE, UH, AMONG OTHERS.

SO, I KIND OF WANTED TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND WALK THROUGH, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY HOW WE ARRIVED AT OUR PLAN.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN SAID ALREADY, BUT HERE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE THE OUTLINE, UH, OF OUR SITE, APPROXIMATELY 18 ACRES.

UM, YOU KNOW, BUT THERE'S A, THERE'S A COUPLE SITE CONSTRAINTS THAT MAKE THE SITE PLANNING A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING THAN WOULD APPEAR, YOU KNOW, AT FIRST GLANCE HERE.

SO SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, STARTING WITH, UM, THE YELLOW HERE, YOU'VE GOT THE ENCORE TRANSMISSION LINES ON OUR EASTERN PROPERTY LINE THAT CONNECT INTO THE ENCORE SUBSTATION JUST SOUTH OF OUR SITE.

UH, IN BLUE HIGHLIGHTED HERE, WE'RE SHOWING THE, UH, THE CONFIGURATION OF SLOAN CREEK WHERE IT, UM, YOU KNOW, ENCROACHES OUR PROPERTY FROM THE WEST.

AND THEN FINALLY IN ORANGE, WE, UH, SHOW THE EXTENSION OF COLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY, WHICH WILL BE, UH, BUILT AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THROUGH THIS ILLUSTRATION THAT, YOU KNOW, SOUTH OF THAT FUTURE ROADWAY, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF, UH, DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL THERE.

SO WE VIEW IT AS THERE'S REALLY, UH, JUST OVER 10 ACRES OF DEVELOPABLE SITE AREA NORTH OF THAT FUTURE ROAD.

SO, OBVIOUSLY, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT SEEKING A PD.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF ON THIS FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, THE DESIRE IS TO REALLY KIND OF CONFORM WITH THE MF 30 ZONING.

SO WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO HERE IS, IS REALLY LIMIT, UH, THE AMOUNT OF VARIANCES WE'RE SEEKING.

SO THE FOUR YOU SEE HERE ARE THE FOUR THAT WE'RE REQUESTING, UH, STARTING WITH DENSITY.

AGAIN, YOU KNOW, MF 30 ALLOWS 30 UNITS TO THE ACRE.

WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS 38 UNITS TO THE ACRE.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU TAKE A STEP BACK, OUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF 385 UNITS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, UM, FROM A GROSS ACREAGE PERSPECTIVE ON THE 18 ACRES, WE'RE REALLY CLOSER TO THE 22 UNITS PER ACRE, UM, WHICH IS WELL BELOW THAT MF 30 STANDARD.

BUT BECAUSE OF, UM, EXTENDING COLIN MCKINNEY THROUGH OUR SITE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GO TO PLOT THIS PROPERTY, WE'LL ULTIMATELY END UP WITH, UH, TWO SEPARATE LOTS, ONE NORTH OF THE ROAD AND ONE SOUTH OF THE ROAD.

SO, AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THOSE SITE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE JUST OUTLINED, WE'VE PUSHED OUR UNITS NORTH OF THAT FUTURE ROADWAY AND, UM, ULTIMATELY INCREASE THE DENSITY ON THAT NORTHERN PARCEL TO THAT 38 UNITS AN ACRE.

UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE HERE SOUTH OF THAT ROAD, YOU'RE LEFT WITH JUST OVER FIVE ACRES.

UM, AGAIN, THAT PRESENTS A A CHALLENGING SITE PLANNING EXERCISE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, DEVELOP A, A LARGE, UH, LANDSCAPED COMMUNITY GREEN SPACE HERE, UM, THAT WOULD BE A RES OR AN AMENITY FOR BOTH OUR RESIDENTS AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH KIND OF HOW TO PROGRAM THIS AREA, BUT, BUT KIND OF WHAT WE'RE ENVISIONING IS, YOU KNOW, LARGE DOG PARK WITH JOGGING TRAILS, PARK BENCHES, UM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, REALLY KIND OF PRESERVING THE NATURAL BEAUTY IN THIS AREA.

AND AGAIN, PROVIDING A RESIDENT, UH, RESIDENT AMENITY AS WELL AS, UH, AMENITIES FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA.

SO THEN NEXT ON THE PARKING, UM, WE'RE SEEKING A REDUCTION, UH, TO 1.6 SPACES PER UNIT.

SO BASED ON OUR, UH, DEVELOPMENT EXPERIENCE, 1.6 IS REALLY THE, THE MINIMUM THAT WE REQUIRE ON OUR DEVELOPMENTS IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN, YOU KNOW, A SATISFACTORY RESIDENT EXPERIENCE.

UM, THE GOAL WILL OBVIOUSLY BE TO COME IN AND, AND PROVIDE MORE THAN THAT.

UM, BUT COMMITTING TO THAT 1.6 REALLY ALLOWS US TO PROVIDE THAT IDEAL BLEND OF, YOU KNOW, RESIDENT AND VISITOR CONVENIENCE, WHILE ALSO GIVING US FLEXIBILITY TO WORK AROUND THE, UH, SITE CONSTRAINTS WE'VE OUTLINED AND PROVIDE TREE CANOPY AND, AND GREEN SPACE TO HELP BREAK UP SOME OF THOSE PARKING FIELDS.

UM, NEXT ON THE PERIMETER FENCING, I KNOW, UM, ARI HAD HAD MENTIONED IT, BUT, UM, REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE MF 30 REQUIRES THE SOLID SIX FOOT MASON RESCREENING WALL ON THE SIDE YARDS, WHICH WOULD APPLY TO THAT WESTERN,

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UH, PROPERTY LINE THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.

ON THIS PLAN, UH, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS REALLY, UH, JUST A SIX FOOT, UM, WROUGHT IRON FENCE WITH MASONRY COLUMNS, AND THAT WOULD MATCH THE SCREENING THAT WE'RE DOING ALONG MCKINNEY RANCH PARKWAY AND COLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY.

SO THE REASON FOR THIS REQUEST IS REALLY TO MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY ACROSS THE PROJECT AND HELP CREATE KIND OF A SOFTER PHYSICAL BARRIER AS YOU APPROACH THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN LASTLY, ON THE MEDIAN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE MF 30 BASE REQUIRES A ALL DRIVEWAY ENTRANCES TO HAVE A LANDSCAPE MEDIAN.

WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING HERE IS THAT THAT, UH, REQUIREMENT ONLY APPLIED TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE ALONG MCKINNEY RANCH PARKWAY.

UM, THIS IS REALLY TO KIND OF HELP, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE ON THIS PLAN WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED THE, UH, SECONDARY ENTRANCE OFF OF COLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY, WHICH IS INTENDED TO BE A RESIDENT ONLY, OR AN EXIT ONLY, UM, DRIVEWAY THERE.

SO, UM, BY NOT REQUIRING THE, THE MEDIAN THERE, YOU'RE REALLY ABLE TO MAINTAIN A VISUAL HIERARCHY BETWEEN THE, THE MAIN ENTRANCE, UH, AND THEN THAT SECONDARY ENTRY EXIT, UH, DOWN THERE WHILE ALSO, YOU KNOW, GIVING US SOME ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PARKING, UH, WHILE WE WORK AROUND SOME OF THESE SITE CONSTRAINTS WE'VE OUTLINED HERE.

UM, SO THEN, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'VE, WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF ON THIS AND, AND UNDERSTAND THEIR DESIRE FOR COMMERCIAL ON THIS SITE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED EVALUATING THIS SITE, WE, WE, UH, CONTEMPLATED INCLUDING A RETAIL COMPONENT WITHIN OUR PLAN, UH, BUT ULTIMATELY, UH, MOVED AWAY FROM THAT, THE, THE MORE WE DUG IN ON THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION, UH, SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE'S JUST NOT, UM, ENOUGH TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA AND NOT ENOUGH VISIBILITY.

AND A LOT OF THAT IS, UM, DUE TO THE CONFIGURATION OF THE INTERCHANGE THERE AT 1 21 AND 75.

SO IN RED HERE, WE'VE, WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE MCKINNEY RANCH PARKWAY, AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT DEAD ENDS INTO THE SERVICE ROAD THERE.

SO IN ORDER TO ACCESS OUR SITE, YOU'RE REALLY HAVING TO COME FROM EL DORADO, UH, ABOUT A MILE NORTH OR EXIT ON HARDIN AND, UH, LOOP AROUND INTO OUR SITE THAT WAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, FURTHER, THE, THE RETAIL STRUGGLES, UM, IN THIS AREA, YOU KNOW, ARE, ARE, OR I GUESS THE LACK OF RETAIL APPEAL IS ILLUSTRATED BY THE PERFORMANCE OF, UH, THE EXISTING RETAIL ON MCKINNEY RANCH IN SOUTH HARDEN OVER HERE.

UM, YOU'VE GOT 23,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL THAT WAS OPENED EARLIER THIS YEAR.

WE'VE TALKED WITH THE, WITH THE BROKERS, UH, THAT HAVE ACTUALLY WORKED THIS SPECIFIC SITE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO PRELEASE THIS DATING BACK TO 2020 AND, UH, STILL TO THIS DAY OR, OR 63% VACANT.

SO THEY'VE HAD A, A VERY TOUGH TIME LEASING THAT UP.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THE FEEDBACK IS CONSISTENTLY, THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH VISIBILITY, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TRAFFIC, UH, TO THIS AREA.

YOU KNOW, ON TOP OF THAT, YOU'VE GOT THE FOUR AND A HALF ACRES ON THE HARD CORNER THERE THAT HAVE BEEN MARKETED FOR SALE, UH, WITH CONCEPT PLANS FOR, YOU KNOW, 32,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE RETAIL AND RESTAURANT.

UM, AND AGAIN, HAVE JUST BEEN UNABLE TO, UM, ATTRACT ANY DEVELOPERS SIMPLY BECAUSE OF, UH, THE LACK OF, UH, VISIBILITY THERE.

SO THEN LASTLY, ON THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW, UH, STAFF HAS, UH, MADE THE, THE COMMENT THAT THEY'D LIKE TO RESERVE THIS SITE FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS KIND OF DIG IN ON, ON THE SURROUNDING LAND USES.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT WITHIN A HALF MILE OF OUR SITE, YOU'VE ALREADY GOT OVER 70 ACRES OF, UM, COMMERCIAL LAND THAT, UH, IS ALREADY ZONED AND IN PLACE FOR THAT, UH, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ALL SITTING VACANT AT THIS POINT.

UM, YOU KNOW, BY ALLOWING THIS ADDITIONAL MULTIFAMILY, WE HOPE TO DR, WE HOPE TO DRIVE, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC TO THIS AREA AND, UH, BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THESE FUTURE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS.

UM, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SAVING THIS SITE FOR ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL, UH, JUST DOESN'T, DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE SENSE, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, UH, WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES HERE.

SO THEN ALL OF THAT, THE, THE LACK OF COMMERCIAL DEMAND IS, IS, YOU KNOW, IN DIRECT CONTRAST TO WHAT WE SEE, UH, FOR MULTIFAMILY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'VE ADDRESSED IT.

THERE ARE, THERE ARE PROJECTS, UH, IN A NUMBER OF UNITS AROUND THIS AREA, BUT THOSE UNITS OR, OR THOSE PROJECTS RATHER, ARE ON AVERAGE 15 YEARS OLD.

UM, AND DESPITE THAT AGE, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE AVERAGED 95% OCCUPANCY AND, AND HAVE ACHIEVED, UH, 32% RENT GROWTH OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, WHICH IN OUR WORLD IS A, IS A MAJOR INDICATOR OF, UH, YOU KNOW, DEMAND.

SO BY INTRODUCING A NEW FOUR STORY LUXURY DEVELOPMENT, UM, WE ARE ENHANCING THE HOUSING DIVERSIFICATION, CONTINUING THAT ESTABLISHED LAND USE PATTERN THAT'S ALREADY IN

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PLACE, UM, AND PROVIDING ADDITIONAL RENTER OPTIONALITY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, BY PROVIDING THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT IN, IN, UH, THIS QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT THAT DOESN'T CURRENTLY EXIST IN THIS LOCATION.

LOOKING AT, UH, THE SUPPLY SIDE OF THINGS, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT MCKINNEY COMPARED TO, UH, SOME NEIGHBORING CITIES LIKE FRISCO AND, AND PLANO AND RICHARDSON, UH, THERE'S ACTUALLY A, A SHORTAGE OF APARTMENT UNITS, UH, PER CAPITA COMPARED TO THESE NEIGHBORING CITIES.

UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UH, MR. MR C***S, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE JUST READING VERBATIM WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY GIVEN US.

OKAY.

WOULD THAT BE ACCURATE? UH, YEAH.

YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE REPORT, SO MY MY POINT IS IF WE COULD MOVE ALONG SURE.

WE, I THINK WE GET WHERE YOU'RE GOING SURE.

AND WE'VE ALREADY HAD TIME TO REVIEW THIS, SO.

OKAY.

FAIR ENOUGH.

NOT WANTING TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT I'M KIND OF CUTTING YOU OFF.

FAIR ENOUGH.

UM, ALRIGHT, MOVING ON.

SO I'LL, I'LL, UH, I'LL SAVE YOU THE, THE TIME HERE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND ON A WRAP UP SUMMARY AND, AND PUT IT BACK ON ON YOU ALL AND, AND SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.

ARE THERE QUESTIONS? YES.

UM, COULD YOU GO BACK TO YOUR SLIDE? THAT'S THE SITE PLAN, I GUESS.

SURE.

ARE THESE THE MAIN BUILDING? I GUESS YOU'VE GOT THREE BUILDINGS HERE.

ARE THESE ALL GARAGES ON THE EAST AND WEST? UH, SO ON THE EASTERN SIDE, IN THE, IN THE PARKING, ARE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ON THE EAST AND WEST OF THAT, UH, BIGGER, WELL, I'M TAKING IN ITS GARAGES ON THE PERIMETER, BUT ARE THESE GARAGES ALSO ON THE MAIN BUILDING ON, CORRECT.

YEAH, THEY'D BE TUCKED UNDER, UH, GARAGES.

SO IF YOU PULL IN BETWEEN THE SEA OF PARKING, YOU'RE SEEING 21 GARAGE DOORS SIDE BY SIDE, UH, ON EACH SIDE.

UH, YES, I GUESS YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THEM FROM THE STREET THERE, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE AIMING TO PUT THOSE GARAGES, UH, THE DETACHED GARAGES UP AGAINST THAT, UM, EASTERN PROPERTY LINE THERE, WHICH WILL PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, A, A PHYSICAL BARRIER THERE AS WELL TO, UM, HELP SHIELD SOME OF THAT PARKING.

I GUESS MY CONCERN HERE, I, YOU'VE, UM, ASKED FOR A NUMBER OF EXCEPTIONS FROM OUR, UM, NEW CODE THAT WE'VE UPDATED ALONG THE WAY.

AND FOR ONE, AFTER EIGHT YEARS IS THE FIRST WHERE I'VE TRIED TO SEE SOMEONE USE THE LAND ACROSS THE STREET AS NUMBERS FOR THEIR PIECE BECAUSE IT WILL ACTUALLY BE SEPARATE PIECES.

BUT MY CONCERN HERE, WE'RE GIVING OR YOU'RE ASKING US TO GIVE CERTAIN THINGS AWAY AND ARE WE GETTING, WHAT ARE WE GETTING IN RETURN? AND WHAT I SEE IS AN APARTMENT WITH 21 GARAGE DOORS SURE.

SIDE BY SIDE ALL THE WAY DOWN.

WE WOULDN'T LET ANY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOP THAT WAY SURE.

ON THAT SIDE.

SO IT CONCERNS ABOUT THE APPEAL, BUT IT'S NOT LOCKED DOWN.

WE'RE JUST SEEING BEING TO BE ASKED TO BE GIVING A LOT SURE.

FOR A REGULAR FOUR STORY APARTMENT THAT WE'VE SEEN.

NO COMMISSIONER WOODRUFF HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE OTHER ONE THAT WENT FOUR STORIES AND HOW MUCH, UM, LOWER LEVEL APARTMENTS WE'RE ALLOWING IN THAT AREA BEFORE.

SO WHAT DEFINES YOURS AS LUXURY COMPARED TO EVERYBODY ELSE'S? SURE.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S NOT LISTED ON THIS SLIDE IN AND THAT WE'VE COMMITTED TO IN THE PD IS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, WITHIN EACH OF THESE PRIVATE GARAGES IS WIRING THEM FOR, UH, EV CHARGING SUCH THAT RESIDENTS ARE ABLE TO, UH, COME IN, BRING THEIR OWN ELECTRIC CHARGERS AND, UH, HOOK UP THEIR CARS WITHIN EACH OF THESE GARAGES.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'LL BE IN ADDITION TO THE EV CHARGERS THAT WE PROVIDE OUT NEAR THE CLUBHOUSE.

BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, THAT, THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT, UH, WHAT WE'RE AIMING FOR THERE.

AND HOW WOULD THIS PARK ACROSS THE STREET WORK AS FAR AS IF YOU SELL THE APARTMENT OFF OR YOU DO A LOAN ON THE APARTMENT, IS ALL THAT GOING IN COMPARABLE AND HOW'S THAT WORK WITH A BUDGET? 'CAUSE THAT'S A VERY LARGE PARK CONSIDERING JUST TO BE GREEN SPACE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA BE USED CONSIDERING HOW FAR IT IS AWAY FROM THE APARTMENT.

CORRECT.

AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL BE PART OF, OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

WE ARE LOOKING TO MAKE THAT AS A, INTO AN AMENITY FOR OUR, FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED BRIEFLY WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT ABOUT POTENTIALLY DEDICATING THAT TO THE CITY AND MAKING THAT A MORE ACTIVE SPACE.

UM, HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF, UH, ALL OF THE ENCROACHMENTS ON THE SITE THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF INTEREST.

UM, SO WE ARE, PARKS DOESN'T WANT IT, THE LANDOWNER WANTS TO SELL IT AS A WHOLE 'CAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT IT OVER AFTER HE JUST GIVES YOU YOUR 10 ACRES.

IT'S NOT A VERY, VERY APPEALING PLACE TO HAVE.

AND THEN ON LONG-TERM OWNERSHIP, THAT'S WHERE I'M JUST WONDERING WHERE IT'S HEADED.

SURE.

YEAH.

AND, AND AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL KIND OF WORKING THROUGH HOW TO ULTIMATELY PROGRAM THAT AREA.

AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AS AN OPEN SPACE WITH, WITH DOG PARK, UH, JOGGING TRAILS.

AGAIN, TRYING TO PROVIDE AND MAKE THE BEST USE OF THAT SPACE THAT IS OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, UNDEVELOPABLE, UM, AND, AND PROVIDE THAT AS A, AS A AMENITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS THERE.

SO WOULD YOU BE WILLING, AS PART OF THE PD TO LEAVE THAT

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5.3 ACRES IN THE TOTALITY SO THAT YOU ALWAYS ARE BELOW THE 22 UNITS PER ACRE? THERE'S THIS WHERE YOU CAN'T SELL IT OFF YES.

UNLESS YOU TEAR DOWN THE APARTMENTS AND GO, YOU KNOW, RE GO RE VERTICAL WITH IT.

YEAH, I, I, I, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT.

YOU KNOW, THE REASON THAT WE HAD, YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY WHEN WE HAD DONE THIS, WE HAD LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, UM, DOING THE ACRE OR THE DENSITY CALCULATION BASED ON THAT ENTIRE, UH, GROSS ACREAGE AND KIND OF INCORPORATING THIS, UH, BOTH PARCELS INTO THE PD AS ONE.

UM, AND, AND ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, WORKING TOGETHER WITH STAFF ENDED UP AT THAT 38 UNITS PER ACRE.

BUT, UM, YEAH, IF I MAY ADD THAT 5.3 WOULD BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE PD.

SO WE WOULD BE LIMITED IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

SO WE COULDN'T BUILD SOUTH OF THE, UH, THE STREET.

JENNIFER, I MEAN, AND I'LL ASK YOU THIS QUESTION, BUT I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN LIMIT THAT TO WHERE THE, IT'S NOW WE'RE NOT GONNA GIVE 'EM ABOVE 30 PER PER ACRE AND 'CAUSE IT'S IN TOTALITY IN 18.2 ACRES.

I THINK.

I'M SORRY, JENNIFER.

I THINK THIS IS JUST, I MEAN, ONE WE'RE JUST SKIRTING AROUND TRYING TO MAKE IT FIT WITHIN THE RULE WHEN THE OBVIOUS PART IS THIS IS TWO SEPARATE TRACKS AND IS THE DENSITY TOO MUCH FOR THE TRACK THAT IT SITS ON OR NOT? I, I'M NOT TOO WORRIED ABOUT THE DENSITY MYSELF.

WE'VE VARIED IN THAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT PARKING, YOU JUST ASKING FOR FENCING TO BE GONE BECAUSE WE'VE DECIDED MASONRY IS RE IMPORTANT.

WE'VE KEPT IT IN THE CODE, BUT IT'S JUST TO WAIVE IT FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN COST PROBABLY, UH, IT'S NOT THERE, BUT WE'RE PLAYING WITH THE PD TO MEET A DENSITY IN WHICH TRUTHFULLY THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE, THEY'RE COMPLETELY ACROSS THE STREET FROM EACH OTHER.

SO I MEAN, YES, WE CAN MAKE THE MATH FIT IN THERE, BUT IS IT WHAT WE WANT? AS FAR AS A LOOK, I PROBABLY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE DENSITY WITHIN THAT TRACK.

I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE OVERALL SITE PLAN OF 42 GARAGE DOORS SURROUNDING THE APARTMENT SURE.

AND A REDUCED PARKING RATIO AND GETTING RIVER PERIMETER FENCES WHILE GETTING JUST YOUR STANDARD REGULAR FOUR STORY APARTMENT.

SO LET ME ASK A QUESTION.

HAS THERE, YOU KNOW, ONE I WANNA COMPLIMENT YOU, THIS IS A GOOD PRESENTATION, IT HELPS US UNDERSTAND THE PROJECT.

UM, BUT MY QUESTION IS, HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION REGARDING JUST MOVING COLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY ROAD A BIT SOUTH SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT DIVISION THERE NOW? I RECOGNIZE YOU'VE GOT A, A CREEK THERE, BUT YEAH, NO, WE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, STARTED WORKING WITH ENGINEERING ON KIND OF THAT, THAT ALIGNMENT THERE AND REALLY KIND OF WHAT'S DRIVING THAT, UM, TO BACK UP HERE YOU HAVE THAT ENCORE EASEMENT THAT'S RUNNING, UM, ALONG THAT EASTERN PROPERTY LINE.

AND THAT'S REALLY KIND OF WHAT'S DRIVING THAT, THAT ALIGNMENT OF THAT ROAD IS, IS STAYING OUT OF THAT EASEMENT AND HUGGING THAT AS LONG AS WE CAN, UH, WHILE MAINTAINING, YOU KNOW, CITY STANDARD TURN RADIUS AND ALL THAT TO CONNECT INTO THE EXISTING PIECE NEAR THE STADIUM.

DID YOU EVER CONTACT ENCORE 'CAUSE LIKE THEY'RE YOUR WESTERN WHERE YOU DON'T WANNA BUILD THIS ALL, IT'S ENCORE, RIGHT? ENCORE'S RESERVING THIS, WHAT THEY DO WITHIN THE FUTURE.

WHO KNOWS, OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE THIS LAND TO THE SOUTH TOO.

DID YOU EVER GO TO THEM AND SEE ABOUT SWITCH SWITCHING LAND SO THAT YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOUR SOUTH END PIECE AND THEN THEIR NORTHERN PIECE THAT'S UP THERE ON MCKINNEY RANCH WHERE Y'ALL COULD HAVE SWAPPED THE LAND AS PART OF THE DEAL? UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE NOT, UH, DISCUSSED THAT WITH ENCORE.

UM, YEAH, WE, UH, UP TO THIS POINT THE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH ENCORE ABOUT, UH, SECURING SOME OF THAT RIGHT OF WAY ON THAT PIECE, CONNECTING, UM, INTO COLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY, UH, ON OUR WESTERN SIDE.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S THE EXTENT OF, UM, THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD WITH ENCORE.

QUESTION ON THE COLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY EXTENSION.

SURE.

SO IS THAT FAIRLY SET IN STONE WHERE THAT WILL GO ON THE MAP OR IS THERE ANY, I I JUST QUESTION THIS BECAUSE IF THAT WAS GOING TO BE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE, THAT 10.2 COULD LOOK LIKE 8.2, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF IT WAS SHIFTED UP A LITTLE BIT FURTHER NORTH.

AND SO THAT'S, AND EFFECTIVELY DOES YOUR FENCING CREATE THE REQUIREMENT THAT THAT ROAD FOLLOWS A CERTAIN PATH? UM, IT'S NOT SO MUCH OUR, OUR FENCING THAT THAT'S DICTATING THE ALIGNMENT.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PIECE TO OUR EAST IN THAT NORTHWEST CORNER UP OR THAT NORTHEAST CORNER UP THERE, THERE'S AN EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION, UH, FOR THE FUTURE COLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY THAT WE ARE WORKING WITHIN.

UM, AND IT'S KIND OF SETTING THAT INITIAL, UH, ALIGNMENT THERE.

BUT AGAIN, WE, WE'VE PUT SOME, UM, INITIAL CONCEPTS IN FRONT OF CITY ENGINEERS AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE KIND OF WORKING WITHIN THE CITY STANDARDS OF TURN RADIUS AND, AND ALL THAT TO TRY TO TIE INTO THE EXISTING INTERSECTION ON MCKINNEY RANCH,

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UH, AS WELL AS THAT EXISTING PIECE OF COLIN MCKINNEY, UM, JUST SOUTH OF THE STADIUM THERE.

ANYONE ELSE? OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. KUNZ WHO MAY HAVE QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING? SURE.

SO IF YOU COULD PAY ATTENTION AND TAKE NOTES, WE'D APPRECIATE IT.

SURE.

IN YOUR COUNTERPART THERE ALSO.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.

IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE TONIGHT THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS PLANNING AND ZONING REGARDING THIS PROPOSED, UH, DEVELOPMENT AT MCKINNEY RANCH IN COLIN MCKINNEY.

PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.

ANYONE MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. MANSON TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND.

SECOND BY MR. STROM.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES AS THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED, SO IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR OF THE APPLICANT, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME OR MOTIONS.

UH, YOU KNOW, I I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS A POINT AS FAR AS THIS BEING MULTIFAMILY OVER RETAIL.

I THINK STAFF HAS A POINT ALSO BRINGING UP THE CONCERN ABOUT 1800 UNITS IN THERE.

AND I THINK THAT'S AN OVERALL VISION THAT HAS TO BE FOLLOWED UP BY THE CITY COUNCIL AS A WHOLE THERE ABOUT, UM, WHAT LEVEL, 'CAUSE WE, THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T BEEN DIRECTED WITH OR WHAT'S A MAXIMUM, WHAT'S A MINIMUM IN AN AREA OR WHAT'S THE PERFECT NUMBER OR NOT? WE ALL KNOW HOUSING'S HIGHER AND MORE EXPENSIVE AND THAT RENTS ARE EXPENSIVE.

SO, UH, OVERALL ASIDE FROM MULTIFAMILY IS NOT AN ISSUE.

UM, THE ISSUE THAT I HAVE WITH IT IS, UH, THE BD AS A WHOLE AND US GETTING, UH, AN UPDATED CODE AND IMMEDIATELY STRAPPING IT AND GOING DOWN A FURTHER AWAY AWAY FROM IT.

BUT I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT MINIMUM PARKING RATIO AS THEY SAID, THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE FOR THEM TOO.

UM, CONCERNS ABOUT WAIVING A MASONRY FENCE? UH, WE LEFT THAT IN CODE 'CAUSE WE WANTED IT.

UM, AND THAT WAS AFTER GRADE DEBATE, UH, ALONG THE WAY.

AND THEN I HAVE CONCERNS WITH JUST THE LAYOUT THAT I SEEN RELATED TO 42 PARKING GARAGES AND A LARGE PARKING LOT TOWARDS THE CENTER.

AND THEY'RE TRYING TO CREATE A COURT AFIELD, MUCH LIKE A HOTEL, I GUESS GUESS AS FAR AS THAT APPEAL GOES.

BUT IT'S NOT A VERY APPEALING FROM THE ROAD AS FAR AS PRESENTATION AS A WHOLE ON THAT SIDE.

SO, UM, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME CHANGES TO PD TO GET IT CLOSER TO OUR REGULAR MF 30 FOR ME TO SUPPORT IT.

THE COMMENTS? ANYONE? I'LL ADD, I THINK THE, UH, ENTERTAINMENT CENTER PLACE TYPE IS INTENDED TO BE A DESTINATION.

AND WHAT YOU GUYS ARE PROPOSING HERE IS A DESTINATION FOR THE RESIDENTS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT DOES MUCH FOR THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.

YOUR EV CHARGING, UH, DESIGNATION MAKING LUXURY IS INSIDE OF A GARAGE AND NOBODY ELSE, UNLESS THAT RESIDENT WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THE, UH, FIVE ACRES THAT'S LEFT OVER HERE ON THE BOTTOM IS UNDERNEATH THE TRANSMISSION LINE.

I'M NOT WALKING MY DOG UNDER THE TRANSMISSION LINES OVER THERE.

I THINK IT'S SOME GARBAGE LEFTOVER LAND Y'ALL ARE TRYING TO MAKE LOOK A LITTLE MORE ATTRACTIVE AND UM, FRANKLY, I THINK IT'S GONNA JUST SIT OVER THERE AND CONTINUE TO BE UNATTRACTIVE.

SO, UH, I'D RATHER SEE SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE ALIGNED WITH THAT USE TYPE AS OPPOSED TO JUST A, A PURE SIMPLE MULTI-FAMILY.

YEAH, I'M THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE.

THE, THIS IS NEVER GONNA BE RETAIL COMMERCIAL HERE.

UH, LOOK, I'M A RETAIL DEVELOPER BY TRADE.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS OTHER MULTI-FAMILY ACROSS THE STREET LAST YEAR, MAYBE EARLIER THIS YEAR WHERE WE WENT, YOU KNOW, STAFF WANTED SOME RETAIL UNDERNEATH, ASKED TO HAVE THAT STRIPPED OUT JUST 'CAUSE RETAIL WON'T SUCCEED OVER HERE.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER COMMERCIAL YOU COULD PUT HERE.

YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, SANDWICHED AROUND AN ENCORE STATION, A NEW DEALERSHIP GOING IN, OTHER MULTI-FAMILY INDUSTRIAL, UH, SELF STORAGE.

IT IS NOT AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT HERE.

SO I MEAN, THAT SIDE OF IT, I THINK IT'S MULTIFAMILY IS A GOOD USE.

UM, I STRUGGLE WITH THE DENSITY, BUT YOU'RE CONSTRAINED BY THE SITE, BY FLOOD, BY UM, YOU KNOW, COLIN MCKINNEY.

AND, AND, AND IT, IT IS HARD.

I MEAN, I HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK THE ADDITIONAL LAND TO THE SOUTH IS DEVELOPABLE.

I THINK THE BEST USE FOR YOU GUYS IS IF THIS GETS APPROVED, IT'S, GO FLIP IT WITH ENCORE.

'CAUSE ENCORE IS YOUR NEIGHBOR TO THE WEST AS WELL.

AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, HE GETS SOME BETTER DENSITY OR USE OUT OF THAT OTHER ADDITIONAL THING.

'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT ENCORE'S GONNA DO WITH IT EITHER.

UM, RUNNING THE PARKING NOT, DOESN'T REALLY BOTHER ME TOO MUCH.

THE FENCING ON THE WEST SIDE, I THINK AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE USE OF WHO YOUR USER, YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS TODAY COULD CHANGE AGAIN.

I MEAN, THIS IS A ONE ACRE TRACT.

I'M NOT,

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NOT A, IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME.

SO I THINK REALLY THE ONLY THING THAT BOTHERS ME IS THE DENSITY.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK, YOU KNOW, MULTIFAMILY IS THE BEST USE FOR THIS LAND AND, UH, I'D BE WILLING TO SUPPORT THIS GOING FORWARD.

I'LL JUST SAY THAT.

SORRY.

UM, I'LL JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS AN ATTRACTIVE PROJECT TO ME.

I, I, I THINK THERE'S A NEED AND, UM, BUT YOU ARE ASKING FOR, UH, A NUMBER OF VARIANCES AND, AND SO THE OBVIOUS QUESTION TO ME IS WHERE'S THE COMPROMISE? YOU KNOW, WHAT, YOU KNOW, CAN, CAN YOU, CAN YOU MOVE THE ROAD? CAN YOU REDUCE DENSITY? CAN YOU INCREASE PARKING? CAN YOU BUILD A WALL? SO I THINK THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT SHOULD BE ANSWERED AS OPPOSED TO SCUTTLING A PROJECT.

UM, UH, BUT UH, GIVEN A COMPROMISE, I WOULD SUPPORT IT.

ANYONE ELSE THERE, MR. CHAIR? YOU THAT WE, WE WE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS AND A LOT.

YEAH.

LET ME, I HAVE A QUESTION OF YOU.

YES SIR.

YOU THANK YOU.

SO IT'S INTERESTING YOU USE THE TOTAL SITE IN YOUR FAVOR FOR YOUR DENSITY TO SAYING ITS AVERAGES 22, BUT THEN YOU SPIN AROUND AND, AND USE IT AGAINST YOU AND THAT SOME OF IT'S FLOODPLAIN AND YOU ARE JAMMING 38 UNITS INTO 10.8 ACRES.

MY CONCERN IS DENSITY.

I DO AGREE RETAIL WOULD BE A, A TOUGH GO AT THIS LOCATION.

I, THAT'S BEEN SAID BEFORE.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER EXCEPTIONS THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR ARE STRETCH.

WE HAVEN'T HEARD A GOOD REASON WHY THE FENCING IS CHANGING.

UM, ANYWAY, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON ALL OF THIS? I THINK THERE'S SOME ENLIGHTENING COMMENTS TONIGHT.

UH, I I THINK THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND MAYBE ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES IN MORE DETAIL.

I THINK WE CAN, I THINK WE CAN ADDRESS MOST OF THE ISSUES THAT OFFER TONIGHT.

SO I'LL RESPECTFUL REQUEST THAT WE DO OKAY.

SURE.

FOR THANK YOU.

YEAH.

HOW DO YOU, UH, PLAN TO, UH, MITIGATE THE APPEARANCE ON COLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY OF THE REAR ENDS OF THE GARAGES? THAT IS GONNA BE UNATTRACTIVE.

NOW I, WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE, TAKE THAT BACK TO OUR DESIGNERS.

I, I DO, I THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD THAT, THAT COMMENT TONIGHT.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD TAKE A LOOK AT.

BUT I DO HEAR IT.

YOU'D BE OPEN FOR A TABLING OF IT.

YES SIR.

I HAVE NO CONCERNS TO A TABLING IT AT THIS TIME.

YEAH.

LET'S ROLL, MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, TABLE THE ITEM INDEFINITELY, UM, AS AGREED UPON BY THE SUBMITTER.

I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. MANZA TO TABLE THE ITEM INDEFINITELY.

SECOND.

SECOND.

I, MR. HAGSTROM, ANY DISCUSSION? UH, ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR THOSE WATCHING IN THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE.

WE STAFF WILL RE NOTIFY WHEN THIS COMES BACK UP AND WE WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO WORK WITH STAFF AND COME THROUGH WITH MAYBE SOME TWEAKS HERE AND THERE.

YES SIR.

THANK YOU.

VERY.

THANK YOU.

SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE A MOTION.

ANY DISCUSSION PLEASE CAST YOUR BOWES MOTION IS TO TABLE THE ITEM INDEFINITELY.

OKAY.

THAT ITEM HAS BEEN TABLED.

THANK YOU.

THANKS.

APPRECIATE IT.

ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM,

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “C2” - Local Commercial District to “C3” - Regional Commercial District, Located at 2151 North Hardin Boulevard]

UH, IS TWO THREE DASH 0 0 5 7 Z TWO, UH, PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A REZONE OF PROPERTY FROM C TWO TO C THREE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

THIS IS AT 2 1 5 1 NORTH HARDEN BOULEVARD.

YOU'RE STILL NOT MR. BENNETT ? NO, I'M NOT.

UH, JAKE WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT THIS EVENING, SO I WILL DO MY BEST TO, UM, TO COVER HIS PROJECTS FOR YOU.

UM, SO AS YOU MENTIONED, UM, THIS APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE, UH, THIS PROPERTY FROM C TWO LOCAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO C THREE, UH, REGIONAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

IT'S APPRO APPROXIMATELY 4.1 ACRES, UH, GIVEN ITS LOCATION AT THE MAJOR INTERSECTION OF HARDIN AND UNIVERSITY, UM, AND THE ACTIVE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS, UM, IN THIS AREA, STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS REZONING REQUEST.

UM, AND AS SUCH, I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS OF THE, UH, OF STAFF.

YES.

IS THIS PLAN TO BE A, A PART OF THE NEXT ITEM THAT WE HAVE? UM, I BELIEVE THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT IS SEPARATE.

UM, BUT IS, UH, SIMILAR, UH, DEVELOPMENT.

IT, IT'S ALL FROM THE SAME MASTER DEVELOPER,

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BUT THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS.

YES.

THANK YOU.

IT SHOULD BE CROSS ACCESS PLANNED AMONG THE YES SIR.

TRACK.

YEAH.

ANYONE ELSE? NO, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT? ROBERT LEWIS WITH KIMLEY HORN, 2,600 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, RICHARDSON, TEXAS.

WE'RE PRESENT.

UM, HOTEL DEVELOPER IS HERE AS WELL.

UM, WE DO NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION GIVEN STAFF'S, UH, RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, BUT WE'RE HERE FOR QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS? SO CONSIDERING YOU JUST SAID HOTEL DEVELOPER, THIS IS GOING TO BE A HOTEL SITE? YES, SIR.

THAT'S CORRECT.

WHAT IS THE BRAND AND IS THIS RUNNING EAST, WEST, NORTH, SOUTH HEIGHT POTENTIALLY, UH, ORIENTED NORTH SOUTH UNITS FACING EAST AND WEST, AND WE ARE UNDER THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT REQUIREMENT FOR C THREE.

VERY GOOD.

AND, UH, YOU'LL HAVE ACCESS ON TAFT ALSO? YES, SIR.

ANYONE ELSE? YEAH.

WHAT ABOUT THE, I GUESS IT'S, UH, ARE THOSE HOMES BEHIND THIS LOCATION? I MEAN, TO THE NORTH, THEY'VE BEEN, UH, HAS THIS BEEN RUN BY THOSE OWN, THOSE HOMEOWNERS NECESSARY SIGNS HAVE BEEN PLACED ON SITE? UM, PER CITY REQUIREMENTS? WE HAVE NOT MADE DIRECT CONTACT WITH THEM.

UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, SIGNS HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF TIME.

IT LOOKS LIKE RUSS WITHIN 200 FEET, THOSE DIRECTLY NORTH WERE AND THEN A COUPLE OF THEM TO THE EAST.

CORRECT.

WERE NOTICED.

YEP.

OKAY.

ANY, ANYONE ELSE? MR. LEWIS? THANK YOU.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IF YOU COME TONIGHT.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS PLANNING AND ZONING ON THIS, UH, PROPOSED REZONE.

PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM, MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, APPROVE THE ITEM PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. MANZA TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM AS FIRST STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

SECOND.

SECOND.

UH, MR. LEBO, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

IF THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THAT ITEM WILL GO TO CITY COUNCIL, UM, WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FOR, UH, FINAL ACTION AT THE OCTOBER 17TH, 2023 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

NEXT ITEM, UH,

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District to “C2” - Local Commercial District, Located at 4050 West University Drive]

TWO THREE DASH 0 0 5 8 Z THREE A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, TO CONSIDER A REZONE OF A SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM PD TO C TWO LOCAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

THIS IS AT 4 0 5 0 WEST UNIVERSITY DRIVE.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

KAITLYN SHEFFIELD, PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY.

UH, SO CURRENTLY THIS PROPERTY IS, UM, ZONE PD AND HAS A SPLIT TRACK DESIGNATION FOR COMMERCIAL ALONG THREE 80 AND MULTI-FAMILY.

ON THE BACK HALF, UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE.

THIS IS APPROXIMATELY 22.16 ACRES OF LAND, UH, FOLEY TWO C TWO LOCAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

UM, AGAIN, THIS IS ON THREE 80.

PART OF THAT MASTER DEVELOPMENT, UM, STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST AND I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

YOU, CAITLYN? ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IS THAT APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT? STILL HERE, ? YES SIR.

I AM, UH, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE.

HOW FAST CAN YOU GET DAVE AND BUSTERS IN ? WE ARE GOING AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

THANK YOU.

UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.

IF YOU'VE COME TONIGHT AND WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS PROPOSED REZONE, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM, MAKE A MOTION, ENCLOS PUBLIC HEARING, APPROVE THE ITEM PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION A MOTION BY MR. MANZA ENCLO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM.

FIRST TIME FOR RECOMMENDATION.

SECOND.

SECOND BY MR. HAGSTROM.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR, UH, THIS MOTION CARRIES.

THE ITEM WILL BE SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION, UH, AT THE OCTOBER 2ND, 2023.

CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

MR. WOODRUFF.

NEXT, UH, TERRY.

MR. WOODRUFF IS GOING TO STEP DOWN ON THIS NEXT ITEM.

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HM.

GARY, I THINK WE'RE, ARE WE ON THE ONE BEFORE THE, WHAT WE'RE SHOWING ON THE SCREEN? YEP.

UM, BACK UP.

UH, GO TO 0 0 6 2 Z 2 6 2 OR 6 6 2.

MM-HMM.

ONE, I DON'T THINK OUR TVS ARE SHOWING CORRECTLY.

APPEAR MONITORS? YEAH.

OH YEAH.

THE, YEAH.

A CAP.

IT'S A DIFFERENT CAPTION NOW WE'RE GOOD.

OKAY.

UH, THIS ITEM

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “AG” - Agricultural District to “C3” - Regional Commercial District, Located Approximately 1,750 Feet East of North Lake Forest Drive and on the North Side of US 380 (West University Drive)]

IS ITEM NUMBER TWO THREE DASH 0 0 6 2 Z TWO.

A PUBLIC HEARING TO DISCUSS THE REONE OF A PROPERTY FROM AG AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO C THREE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

THIS IS 1,750 FEET EAST OF NORTH LAKE FOREST DRIVE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF US HIGHWAY THREE 80.

THANK YOU.

LAST ONE OF JAKE'S AGAIN, KAITLYN SHEFFIELD'S, UH, PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY.

CURRENTLY THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AG, APPROXIMATELY 5.4 ACRES.

THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING TO REZONE TO C THREE, UH, FOR OUR REGIONAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

UM, AGAIN, THIS IS RIGHT ALONG THREE 80.

MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ZONING REQUEST FOR COMMERCIAL USES.

AND I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

YOU SURE YOU WANNA SUPPORT THIS ONE? YES.

A REASON TO DRAG IT OUT.

TABLE IT FOR A PEEWEE.

PREFERABLY NOT, BUT JAKE MAY BE BACK THEN.

SO .

ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU.

CAITLYN.

IS THERE A, UH, APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT? GOOD EVENING, DREW.

DANOWSKI CLAYMORE ENGINEERING 1903 CENTRAL DRIVE, BEDFORD, TEXAS.

UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

DREW, YOU'RE GETTING BETTER IN YOUR OLD AGE.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.

WE WANNA BRING UP ANY SCREENING WALLS ON THE NORTH SIDE AT ALL.

ROD, IRON, MAYBE.

.

ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? NO.

DOC, THIS IS COMEDY HOUR.

DID YOU REALIZE THAT? DREW? THANK YOU.

THIS IS A, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU COME TONIGHT.

I WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS PROPOSED REZONE.

PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.

HERE.

YOU NEED A CARD FROM DREW.

DREW, WILL YOU FILL OUT A CARD FOR US? THANK YOU.

MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

APPROVE THE ITEM FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. MANZA TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE.

THE ITEM IS FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

SECOND.

SECOND.

I'LL BE MR. STROM.

ALRIGHT, WE GET THE NEXT ONE.

UH, ANY DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

IF THIS MOTION CARRIES.

THE HONOR WILL BE SENT TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOR FINAL ACTION AT THE OCTOBER 2ND, 2023 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

MR. WOODRUFF.

NEXT ITEM IS TWO THREE DASH 0 0 6 3

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from "C" - Planned Center District to "I1" - Light Industrial District, Located at 3200 North Central Expressway]

Z, A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REZONE FROM SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM C PLAN CENTER DISTRICT TO L ONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.

THIS IS AT 3,200 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

UH, AR FOR, UH, CITY OF MCKINNEY.

UH, THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM AS MENTIONED C PLAN CENTER TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

UH, I ONE.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3,200 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY 18 ACRES IN SIZE.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO ALLOW FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES.

LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING ZONING AND THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA, ALONG WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, OF EMPLOYMENT MIX, WHICH CALLS FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES.

THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.

AND I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

HOW MANY OTHER PIECES ARE ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL OPEN DOWN 75 AND MCKINNEY.

SO WE HAVE A COUPLE TO THE NORTH WHERE IT SAYS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL VACANT LAND.

UM, AND THEN TO THE NORTH, UH, EAST WE HAVE THAT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USED

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INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING.

AND THEN TO THE SOUTH OF THAT WE HAVE LIGHT MANUFACTURING.

UM, SOME OF THE PROPERTIES, UH, THAT ARE CLOSE IN ADJACENCY, NOT NECESSARILY, UM, ARE USUALLY ARE MOSTLY UH, ZONE SEA PLANT CENTERS YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THIS AREA AND THEN HERE.

BUT ALL THESE ARE OTHER LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

THERE'S ALSO MORE, UM, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL OR MANUFACTURING USES IN SOME.

SO WE HAVE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BACK TOWARDS THE EAST AND RED BUD IN THAT AREA.

MM-HMM.

, UM, CONCERN HERE IS THERE'S ONLY ONE PIECE ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ON THE 75 SERVICE ROADS OR 75 THAT I FOUND.

MM-HMM.

.

AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE CITY PROPERTY, UM, WHICH THEY PURCHASED NOT TOO LONG AGO.

AND IT WAS ACTUALLY TAKEN FROM A PD TO A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S REPRESENTS, THAT'S CLOSE TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CON TO, UH, REQUIRE A PD ON IT IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT SOME OF THE, UH, STRONGER USES WITH LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ARE NOT ON OUR SERVICE ROAD ALONG THE WAY.

SO, UH, I HAVE CONCERNS HERE PUTTING LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, THE FIRST PIECE THAT WE'D HAVE ON 75, UM, COMPARED TO A C THREE 'CAUSE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WILL ALLOW IMPOUND LOTS, UH, LIGHTING, MANUFACTURING, PAWN SHOPS, BOAT STORAGE, TRUCK STORAGE, STORAGE OF AUTOMOBILES, MAJOR VEHICLE REPAIR.

UM, ONE OF THE ONES I KNOW THAT I FEEL WE MISSED OUT ON ONE TIME IS ACROSS THE STREET, THE INTERNATIONAL DEALERSHIP, UH, WHEN IT WENT THROUGH A REMODEL, NOT GETTING A FENCE AROUND IT BECAUSE IT IS A MAJOR REPAIR AND ALL WE SEE IS BROKEN DOWN BUSES AND LARGE TRUCKS WITH A FENCE AROUND THEM AND IN THE PARKING LOT.

SO I DO HAVE CONCERNS BEING THE FIRST CITY COUNCIL DID DENY A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SLIGHTLY UP THE ROAD, UM, BY A SLIM MAJORITY NOT TOO LONG AGO 'CAUSE IT WAS GONNA BE USED FOR TRAILER CELLS ALSO.

SO, UM, CITY COUNCIL HAS KIND OF SET THE PRECEDENT THAT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS A STRETCH ON A 75 SERVICE ROAD.

AND AGAIN, WHERE WE HAVE VARIED FROM THE C THREE, WE'VE CONTROLLED IT WITH A PD.

SO WE DON'T GET THE MOST EXTREME USES HERE ON OUR SERVICE ROADS.

NOW WE DID LOOK AT A CASE IN 22 IN WHICH WE LOOKED AT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL CARE.

IT WAS MUCH MORE SHOWN TO US AS UM, KIND OF A SMALL RETAIL FOR SMALL BUSINESSES WHERE AND HAD MORE OF A RETAIL FIELD TO THE FRONT.

MM-HMM.

, I THINK I FAILED AT THAT TIME TO SEE THE RISK ASSOCIATED WITH DOING LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ON THAT ZONING AND THEN ANOTHER BUYER GET IT.

CONSIDERING THE ECONOMICS OUT THERE WITH RISING INTEREST RATES AND DEALS NOT BEING MADE, WE CAN'T ALWAYS GUARANTEE WHO WE SEE HERE IS GOING TO END UP HAVING THE LAND AND END WITH THE ZONING.

UH, BECAUSE SOMETIMES DEALS DON'T MAKE, IN FACT THAT DEAL DIDN'T MAKE.

SO WE'RE BACK TO THIS ALONG THE WAY.

SO THOSE EXTREME USES, I HAVE SOME STRONG CONCERNS ABOUT FRONTING OUR SERVICE ROAD AND BEING PART OF WHAT PEOPLE SEE COMING THROUGH 75, CONSIDERING HOW MUCH LAND INDUSTRIAL WE STILL HAVE AVAILABLE AT OTHER PLACES THAT THEY CAN FIND A LOCATION.

NOTED.

UM, SO I AFRAID I DIDN'T ASK YOU A QUESTION.

I SMILE MY RANT.

YEAH.

I WASN'T SURE IF THERE WAS A QUESTION ATTACHED TO THAT .

NO, YOU NEGATIVE QUESTION.

YOU JUST GOT A RANT.

SO NO PROBLEM.

ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

IS THERE APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT? YES.

YES SIR.

SHE'S THE CLICKER.

ROB DYE, UH, 1 3 2 1 8 B STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS, 7 5, 2, 3, 4, UH, COMMISSIONERS STAFF.

I JUST WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

UH, JUST A QUICK PRESENTATION, UH, ON WHAT WE PLAN TO, TO DO AT THIS SITE.

SO, WOODHAM COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCES 15 YEARS.

UH, BEEN IN OUR OWN COMPANY FOR ABOUT SEVEN, UH, DURING THAT TIME, BEEN INVOLVED IN OVER 6.1 MILLION SQUARE FEET, 3.1 MILLION, UH, WITH WOODHAVEN DIRECTLY.

UH, RECENT PROJECT HISTORY.

UH, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE'VE DONE THERE.

MOST NOTABLY, UH, INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT PLANNING AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT OF THE K V P, UH, WAREHOUSE.

UM, FURTHER BACK, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST ACTUALLY EAST OF OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BUILDINGS WE LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, JUST 'CAUSE THE OFFICE THAT WE PRESENTED.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST A, A FANTASTIC BUILDING.

UH, SOMETHING I THINK THAT REPRESENTS, UH, NOT ONLY WHAT WE DO, BUT ALSO MCKINNEY VERY WELL.

UH, THE LOCATION, UH, AS YOU JUST SAW, UM, RIGHT HERE, UH, JUST NORTH OF WILMOTH, SOUTH OF JUSTICE, UM, EAST OF 75 AND WEST OF REDBUD.

UH, AS YOU CAN SEE AND AS WAS OUTLINED BY STAFF, UH, A LOT OF THE USES IN AND AROUND HERE ARE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

UH, WE FEEL THAT THE BACK END, ESPECIALLY OFF RED BUD IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH THAT ON THE, IN THE FRONTAGE PIECE.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT GOING, UH, FOR A PD, UH, A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, BUT GIVEN THE CASE IN 22 IN PREVIOUS SENTIMENTS FOR THIS PIECE, WE THOUGHT, UH, GOING

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DOWN A SIMILAR PATH WAS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PRESENTED AND YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED BEFORE.

UM, BUT OUR SITE PLAN, UH, JUST TO KINDA SHOW YOU THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, UH, THAN WHAT YOU'VE SEEN PREVIOUSLY.

BUT ON THE FRONT EDGE WE DID WANT TO STILL STICK WITH ONE OF THOSE SMALLER, UH, KIND OF RETAIL FRIENDLY, UH, YOU KNOW, OFFICE TYPE LOOKING BUILDINGS THAT IS MORE FLEX OFFICE.

UM, THIS ISN'T LIKE YOUR TRUE, UH, INDUSTRIAL, A LOT OF TRUCKS IN AND OUT.

THIS IS GONNA BE MORE OF SHOWROOM ON THE FRONT END, HIGH OFFICE USE, UH, SMALLER WAREHOUSE IN THE BACK, UH, MORE TRADITIONAL, UH, INDUSTRIAL BACK TOWARDS RED BUD AND THEN AN ISOLATED BUILDING C THERE.

THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE JUST ONE USER LOOKING FOR A VERY SECURE SITE.

UH, SOMETHING THAT FACES OUT TOWARDS RED BUD, UM, AND KIND OF BACKS UP TO THE TRACTOR, UH, YOU KNOW, SUPPLY STORE THAT'S, THAT'S RIGHT THERE ON THAT PIECE.

WE DID LEAVE SOME, UH, SOME C THREE, UH, AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN, AS YOU CAN SEE, LOOKING TO PUT IN A RE RETAIL PAD THERE.

MAYBE BRINGING SOME RETAIL INTO THE AREA TO NOT ONLY THE AMENITY TO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK, BUT YOU KNOW, ALONG THE FREEWAY AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, GIVEN THAT VISIBILITY, WE THINK IT'D BE A GREAT USE JUST BECAUSE IT'S A SMALL OUT PARCEL PIECE.

UH, YOU KNOW, THE RENDERINGS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA LOOK TO DO.

UH, THIS IS, UH, ONE OF OUR LATEST DESIGNS.

UH, VERY HAPPY WITH IT.

WE THINK THAT THIS SHOWS, WELL, ESPECIALLY OFF FREEWAYS, IT HAS MORE OF THAT OFFICE FEEL, A LOT OF GLASS, YOU KNOW, DOUBLE STORY THERE IN THE FRONT THAT PRESENTS MORE LIKE AN OFFICE SPACE.

UM, AND SO THIS WOULD BE KIND OF THE CORNER ON THAT BUILDING A, UH, THAT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE AS IT COMES IN AROUND, UH, THAT HARD CORNER THAT KIND OF JOGS A LITTLE BIT.

AND THEN DOWN THE SIDE YOU STILL GET THAT OFFICE FEEL AND WE POSITION THE BUILDINGS TO WHERE IF WE GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN, YOU CAN SEE HOW IT'S KIND OF THROATED TO WHERE WE PUT A LOT OF THAT STOREFRONTS AND OFFICE IN THERE TO WHERE IT FEELS MORE LIKE AN OFFICE PARK AS YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH.

UH, SOMETHING THAT HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE FLOW, LESS CONGESTION, UH, GOOD CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN RED BUD, UH, AND THE SERVICE ROAD OF 75.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO BUILDING.

UH, AND YOU KNOW, REGARDING THE USES, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE ONES THAT YOU NAMED AREN'T ONES THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UM, OR WE THINK THAT WOULD BE ATTRACTIVE FOR, FOR THIS PRODUCT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, UH, DON'T THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA GET.

IT'S GONNA BE MORE OF YOUR, YOU KNOW, BIGGER USERS, UM, IN THE BACK BUILDING WHERE THAT BIGGER SPACE IS.

BUT ON THE FRONT THERE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING FOR THAT HIGH OFFICE SPACE, THAT GOOD VISIBILITY, UH, AND THAT LIGHTER WAREHOUSING USE.

SO WITH THAT, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

UH, CAN YOU, YEAH, UH, AGAIN, GOOD, GOOD PRESENTATION.

THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, CAN YOU, CAN YOU EDUCATE ME ON, ON THE CONSTRAINTS THAT REQUIRED THE REZONE TO, UH, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL FROM, FROM COMMERCIAL, FROM SEA? THE CONSTRAINTS? YEAH.

WHAT, WHAT ARE THE DRIVERS THAT CAUSED THE NEED FOR THE REZONE? WELL, IT'S C THREE NOW.

UM, AND GIVEN WHAT'S IN AND AROUND IT, WE THINK THAT IT'S CONSISTENT.

UM, WITH THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THAT'S TO THE EAST AND ALSO TO THE NORTH.

UH, THE WAY THAT WE KIND OF DESIGNED THE PARK, KNOWING THAT THIS WAS ORIGINALLY C THREE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DRIVE UP AND DOWN THIS CORRIDOR, YOU WILL SEE THAT MCKINNEY'S TENDS TO LEND OR, YOU KNOW, STAY AWAY FROM INDUSTRIAL PURE INDUSTRIAL, UH, IN MY EXPERIENCE ON THAT CORRIDOR.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE PUT OUR BEST LOOKING, UM, BUILDING OUR SMALLEST BUILDING THAT LENDS ITSELF MORE TO THAT FLEX OFFICE PRODUCT TYPE TO BE A VERY SIMILAR VISUAL REPRESENTATION THAT IS A CONTINUANCE OF WHAT YOU SEE THROUGH THAT 75 CORRIDOR.

UM, BUT GIVEN THE CONSISTENCY AND THE USES ON THE BACK, WE FELT THAT IT WAS VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA.

UM, IT'S KIND OF JUST KIND OF BLENDS IN, KIND OF HOMOGENOUS WITH WHAT'S BACK THERE AND, AND THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A, YOU KNOW, A GOOD USE.

OKAY.

CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN AND SHOW THE BUILDINGS AND, UH, LOADING DOCKS ARE ALL ACROSS THE BACKSIDE OR SO WITH BUILDING A, THE LOADING DOCKS ARE ON THE BACKSIDE AND ARE KIND OF BLOCKED FROM THE ROAD.

UH, WE DESIGNED THIS TO WHERE YOUR VIEW CORRIDORS AND ANGLE MAKE IT VERY HARD TO SEE INTO ANY OF THE DOCK AREAS.

UH, THAT WAS VERY INTENTIONAL IN TERMS OF OUR DESIGN.

SO THE DOCKS BEHIND BUILDING A, THAT'S KIND OF A MORE SHALLOW TRUCK COURT.

LIKE I SAID, WE'RE FOCUSED ON FLEX OFFICE.

THOSE SMALLER TENANTS THAT WANT MORE OF A SHOWROOM, THAT HIGH VISIBILITY, UH, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE RUNNING TRUCKS IN AND OUTTA THERE.

BUILDING B, WE BACK THOSE UP TO, UH, THAT DRAINAGE CULVERT THAT HAS A LOT OF TREES AND LANDSCAPING.

AND SO WE FELT THAT GAVE GOOD COVERAGE, UH, FROM ANY VISIBILITY IN AND AROUND THAT AREA THAT YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE THOSE TRUCKS.

WE HAVE 16 FOOT SCREEN WALLS THAT GO 60 FEET OUT, UM, OFF THE BUILDING, UH, TO KIND OF HIDE ANY TRUCKS, UH, THAT YOU WOULD SEE FROM REDBUD.

BUT GIVEN THAT GREEN SPACE, WE DO PLAN TO HEAVILY LANDSCAPE THAT, SO THAT ELIMINATES VIEWS INTO THERE AS WELL.

UH, ANOTHER INTENTIONAL DESIGN, UH, SO THAT TRUCKS CAN COME BACK OUT ON REDBUD, WHICH IS WHERE MOST OF THAT INDUSTRIAL AND, AND TRUCK TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, TENDS TO, TENDS TO BE RIGHT NOW.

UH, ADDITIONALLY BUILDING C WE DESIGNED IT WITH THE STOREFRONT FACING THE FRONT AS WELL.

UH, AS A CAR PARKS THERE, CAR PARKS THERE.

GIVE IT A LITTLE HIGHER VISIBILITY.

BRING THE TRUCK AND SERVICE COURT TO THE BACK THAT BACKS UP TO THE TRACTOR SUPPLY, WHICH THAT BUILDING WILL BLOCK A LOT OF THAT, THE

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LANDSCAPING THAT'S BACK THERE AS WELL.

AND SO OUR THOUGHTS THERE WERE HOW DO WE BE INTENTIONAL TO KIND OF HIDE THAT, THAT USE, UM, BACK THERE TO GIVE A BETTER VISUAL APPEAL AND AESTHETIC, UH, TO THIS AREA.

DID YOU CONSIDER THIS TO BE A PD AT ALL? UM, AS, UH, I NOTED WE KIND OF JUST FOLLOWED, UM, WHAT THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT DID WHO WAS LOOKING TO DO INDUSTRIALS HERE.

THAT WASN'T A PD.

UM, HAD WE BEEN MAYBE DIRECTED TO DO SO, WE, YOU KNOW, NOT AGAINST IT, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED ON THE FRONT AND IT SEEMED LIKE GIVEN THE PREVIOUS, UH, ZONING CASE AND THIS, THAT THIS WAS VERY CONSISTENT, WE CHANGED UP THE DESIGN A LITTLE BIT 'CAUSE WE THOUGHT WE COULD GET A LITTLE BETTER WITH LAND USE THAN WHAT WAS PRESENTED PREVIOUSLY.

BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON FOR, FOR JUST THE STRAIGHT ZONING.

SO FOR THE COMMISSIONERS THAT WEREN'T HERE LAST YEAR, OH, WE HEARD THIS IN AUGUST AND IT WAS IN STRAIGHT ZONING, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND WE HAD A PRESENTATION.

IT WAS SIMILAR, PROBABLY A SMALLER BUILDING TO THE FRONT.

YEAH, JUST A LITTLE BIT.

A LITTLE BIT, YEAH.

AND MORE OF, A LITTLE MORE OF A RETAIL LOOK AND TO GO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

UH, IT WAS PROBABLY A FAILURE ON MY PART THAT, UM, SOLD ON THE PRESENTATION.

'CAUSE I, I WOULDN'T MIND WHAT YOU'RE BUILDING HERE, THERE AS FAR AS A WHOLE, IT IS THE RISK OF OPENING UP THE OTHER POSSIBLE USES ONCE WE GAVE THAT ZONING OUT AND THEN IT NOT BEING YOUR LATER ON THAT I CAN'T GUARANTEE.

GOTCHA.

AND THAT'S WHERE PD WOULD GUARANTEE THIS, CONSIDERING IT WOULD BE THE FIRST LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THAT WE WOULD BE ALLOWING ON 75 OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE CITY HAS.

AND THAT WAS DONE UNDER PD WHEN IT WAS CONSTRUCTED.

SO THAT'S JUST THE RISK ASSOCIATED, NOT THAT I HAVE ANY, UM, CONCERNS WITH YOUR PROJECT.

IT'S WHETHER THAT IS WHAT ACTUALLY GETS BUILT OR WHETHER SOMETHING ELSE GETS BUILT UNDER THAT ZONING, THAT CONCERNS ME.

GOTCHA.

AND, BUT WE DID GIVE THE FULL PERCEPTION OF LAST AUGUST THAT WE WERE OKAY WITH THIS, THOSE THAT WERE CURRENTLY SERVING AT THAT TIME.

ANYONE ELSE? MR. DYE, DOES YOUR CLIENT OWN THE SITE? UM, I'M GONNA, I'M THE DEVELOPER GOING FORWARD.

UH, I WILL BE BUYING THIS FROM THE OWNER.

UM, BUT YOU DO NOT CURRENTLY OWN, OWN THE SITE.

I DON'T CURRENTLY OWN IT, NOPE.

OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? ARE YOU UNDER CONTRACT? I'M UNDER CONTRACT.

AND CLOSING IS CONTINGENT ON ZONING.

VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.

IF YOU COME AT NINE AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS PLANNING ZONING IN REGARD REGARDING THIS PROPOSED REZONE, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM, MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING A MOTION BY MR. MANZA TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND, SECOND AMENDMENT.

MR. WOODRUFF, ANY DISCUSSION ON CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

I I MEAN, I'VE SAID MY CONCERNS AS FAR AS WHAT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BRINGS BECAUSE, UM, THAT MOTION CARRIED.

SORRY, BRIAN.

SORRY, .

YEAH, I JOINED, UH, I'M, I'M FROM OKLAHOMA AND THE, THE, THE THING THAT COME THROUGH MY HEAD WITH LIGHTING INDUSTRIAL WAS OUR LAST ONE, WHICH WAS, UM, TRAILER CELLS AND SEEING ENOUGH OF 'EM IN OKLAHOMA, I DIDN'T REALLY CARE TO SEE 'EM IN MCKINNEY .

UM, UH, NO, THAT'S, UM, IT'S JUST WEIGHING THAT RISK OUT WHETHER YOU'RE THE DEVELOPER AND THIS IS WHAT WE GET OR NOT AS FAR AS THAT GOES.

I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST A PROJECT AS FAR AS THAT GOES.

SO, UM, BUT I WOULD PREFER FOR IT TO BE WITHIN A PD OR A C THREE UP FRONT WITH THE, UM, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IN THE BACK.

UM, I DO STILL HAVE A PROBLEM DOING STRAIGHT UP, UH, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, UM, ON 75 SERVICE ROAD.

UM, THE COMMENTS, ANYONE, UH, MR. DIES, WHILE A SITE PLAN IS NOT A REQUIREMENT OF A ZONING REQUEST, IF, IF YOUR, IF YOUR PRESENTATION IS, UH, THE INTENT OF YOUR FINISHED PRODUCT AND YOUR SITE PLAN HERE, IT, THAT THAT IS A PRODUCT THAT WILL WORK ON THAT LOCATION.

I DO HEAR MR. MAN'S EYE'S CONCERN.

UM, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT WHAT WE SAW TONIGHT IN YOUR PRESENTATION WILL ACTUALLY MAKE IT.

UM, THAT'S YOUR INTENTION AND THAT'S, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE GO BY IS JUST WHAT YOU TELL US AND WHAT THE STAFF TELLS US.

I SUPPORT, UH, WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS.

IS THERE THE STAFF, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN PROTECT AROUND THIS? BRIAN'S COMMENT, MR. ZAS COMMENTS? I'M SORRY.

COME AGAIN.

IS THERE A WAY TO PROTECT AROUND COMMISSIONER MAN'S EYES, COMMENTS? UM, WHAT I CAN SPEAK TO IS USUALLY

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FOR PDS WE RESERVE THOSE FOR IMAGINATIVE OR, UM, NEW DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

IF THEY CAN MEET THE STANDARDS OF THE, OF THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT WE'VE KIND OF ADOPTED WITH THE U D C USUALLY WE RECOMMEND THAT STRAIGHT ZONING.

NOW, UM, I'LL LET PROBABLY JENNIFER SPEAK TO THAT AS FAR AS IF THERE'S CONCERNS REGARDING THE USE AND THE PD AS FAR AS IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, CAN BE CONTEMPLATED.

YEAH, I MEAN I THINK ARI HIT IT.

OF COURSE WE CAN ALWAYS PROTECT AGAINST THOSE THINGS VIA THE PD PROCESS.

SO, UM, YEAH, I MEAN TONIGHT, I'M SORRY.

UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TONIGHT AS A STAFF WE WOULD ALWAYS RE UH, RECOMMEND AGAINST TRYING TO NEGOTIATE THOSE SORT OF THINGS ON THE FLOOR.

UM, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THINGS GET LEFT OUT AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT THE IDEA OF POTENTIALLY MODIFYING THE USE ALLOWANCES, TYING DOWN POTENTIAL LAYOUT.

SO THOSE ARE SOME DETAILS THAT WE'D LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THEM ON.

BUT THAT IS DEFINITELY AN AVENUE.

SO THEN TO THE APPLICANT, DO YOU HAVE TIME UNDER YOUR, UH, DUE DILIGENCE TO COME BACK AND, I MEAN, AGAIN, I GUESS STAFFING, WE COULD COME BACK IN ANOTHER MONTH.

DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GO BACK THROUGH OR SINCE FOR NO.

TO THE APPLICANT.

OH, TO THE APPLICANT.

UM, I WOULD NEED TO RENEGOTIATE PART OF MY CONTRACT JUST BECAUSE THE PROCESS TO COME BACK THROUGH THE PD, GET THAT DONE, THAT EXTENDED MY TIMELINE OUT PROBABLY ANOTHER TWO MONTHS AT LEAST, UH, FROM WHERE WE'RE TODAY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, JUGGLING ALL THAT, NOT SOMETHING I'M AGAINST, IT'S JUST IT'D BE UP AGAINST IT TRYING TO GET THAT DONE AT, AT THIS POINT.

GOT IT.

JUST 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF EXTENDED THROUGH SOME PORTION TO GET TO THIS AND THEN GO FORWARD.

UM, BUT IF THERE WAS A WAY TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE A, A MOTION THAT EXCLUDED CERTAIN USES, I WOULD BE OPEN TO IT BECAUSE I THINK THE ONES THAT YOU'RE FEARFUL OF, I DON'T WANT EITHER.

AND SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE A PROBLEM FOR ME TO ACCEPT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF LEGALLY YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT, BUT IT WAS MORE OF LIKE, I'D BE OPEN TO THAT AND TO, UH, CHAIRMAN COX, UH, MY INTENT IS TO BUILD WHAT I SHOW.

TYPICALLY WHEN I SHOW SOMETHING, THIS IS WHAT I SOLD TO MY INVESTORS, THIS IS THE LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE GONNA BRING AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE CHASING.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

IT WAS JUST GIVE JUST ONE SECOND, ONE SECOND.

YEAH.

PARK, RIGHT? I, I, I DO HAVE CONCERN.

I APPRECIATE THE OFFER AS FAR AS THAT GOES.

AND I'VE NOTED MY CONCERNS AND WE'RE SIMPLY AN ADVISORY HERE AS FAR AS THAT GOES.

AND WE HAVE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE HEARD MY RANT, SOME WORDS TONIGHT, , SO THEY CAN TAKE THAT IN EFFECT.

AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THAT GAP CAN BE FILLED IN BETWEEN WITH STAFF AND WE'RE NOT STAFF.

WE DON'T NEED TO BE WRITING IT.

WE DON'T NEED TO BE CHANGING WHAT WE PRESENTED TONIGHT.

UM, SO I MEAN, MY VOTE WILL BE TO MOVE IT FORWARD, UM, UNDER A RECOMMENDATION, BUT WITH THE STRONG NOTES THAT I HAVE, UH, CONCERNS WITH SOME OF THESE USES AND THAT BEING ALLOWED ON 75.

AND THAT GOES FOR OUR WHOLE COMP PLAN BECAUSE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S NOTED, THAT STRETCHES WAY UP 75.

AND I DON'T WANT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL STRETCHING ALL THE WAY UP.

75 WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION AS FAR AS THAT GOES.

BUT, UM, UH, COUNSEL'S HEARD THE CONCERNS, UM, TWO HERE AND AT LEAST ONE THAT I OFFICE NEXT TO, SO THEY'LL BRING THEM UP.

SO, UH, I WILL VOTE TO MOVE IT ON FAVORABLY.

SO WHAT ME .

ALRIGHT, GOT A LITTLE MOMENTUM GOING HERE, FELLAS.

, I THINK YOUR PD WOULD BE A WHOLE LOT BETTER, A LOT SAFER.

I'D LIKE TO SEE IT BROUGHT BACK THAT WAY.

WELL, NO, I, IT'S A GREAT PRESENTATION, BUT, UM, CONCERNING THE ECONOMIC, UM, RISK ASSOCIATED WITH REAL ESTATE AS A WHOLE RIGHT NOW WITH COST AND INTEREST RATES AND WE'RE SEEING A LOT MORE DEALS THAT WE'VE ZONED BEFORE FALLOUT AND BECOME DIFFERENT THINGS THAT, UM, I'D LIKE, LIKE IT BETTER IF WE GOT 'EM TIED UP TO CERTAIN DEVELOPERS OR CERTAIN PRESENTATIONS THAT WE LIKE AND JUST WHAT WE SEE IS WHAT WE KNOW WE GET IN PAPER TOO.

BUT WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE ITEM AS PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. MANZA TO APPROVE

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THE ITEM AS PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

SECOND.

SECOND BY MR. WOODRUFF.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I THINK THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS WE LET COUNSEL MAKE THE, MAKE THAT DECISION.

IF THEY WERE TO CHANGE IT, THAT'S SOMETHING THEY CAN DO.

THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT.

UH, WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

BUT THE MOTION, UH, CARRIES THE ITEM, UH, BY VOTE OF SIX IN FAVOR AND ONE AGAINST THAT ITEM WILL BE SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION, UH, AT THE OCTOBER 2ND, 2023 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

THE NEXT ITEM IS TWO THREE

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to Allow for Single Family Residential Uses and to Modify the Development Standards, Located on the Northwest Corner of Alma Road and Hewitt Drive]

DASH 0 0 7 4 Z.

A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REZONE OF A PROPERTY FROM PD TO PD TO ALLOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES AND TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

THIS IS AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF ALMA ROAD AND HEWITT DRIVE.

MS. SHEFFIELD, THANK YOU.

MAKE SOME NOTATIONS FOR YOU HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 3.6 ACRES OF LAND, GENERALLY FOUR DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY USES.

UM, SO THIS SITE WAS, UM, INCLUDED IN A 2020 REZONE AND I'VE MARKED, UM, SOME OF THOSE LAND USES THAT WERE INCLUDED.

IT INCLUDED TOWN HOMES, SO SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, UH, TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED AND MULTIFAMILY, UH, USES.

SO CURRENTLY THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ALLOWS FOR TOWN HOME USES.

IT WAS, UH, A PART OF A RESIDENTIAL TRANSITION TYPE OF USE FOR, UM, SOME OF THE URBAN DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA.

THE APPLICANT IS COMING BACK WITH A REZONING REQUEST TO, UM, MIMIC THE SINGLE FAMILY, UM, USES AND STANDARDS THAT WERE INCLUDED ON THAT TRACK FOR THIS TRACT.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UM, STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE REQUEST.

UM, WE STILL FEEL THAT IT FEEL, UH, IT PROVIDES A RESIDENTIAL TRANSITION FROM THAT MULTIFAMILY USE TO THE SOUTH, UM, FURTHER NORTH WITH THOSE SINGLE FAMILY USES.

UM, AS I MENTIONED, STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE REQUEST AND I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS, ANYONE? ANY CONCERNS FOR THE EIGHT TOWN HOMES THAT ARE JUST ON AN ISLAND BY THEMSELVES? ? UM, NO SIR.

THOSE ARE GOING TO BE FACING, UM, TOWARDS THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT, BUT, UM, THE REMAINDER OF THE USES AROUND THEM ARE FOR JUST TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY.

ARE THOSE THE ONLY EIGHT, 10 TOWN HOMES IN ALL THE CRAIG RANCH DEVELOPMENT? UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA OUTSIDE WHAT'S ON THE GOLF COURSE AREA? I BELIEVE SO.

UM, , BUT NOT THAT I CAN THINK OF, OF ANYWHERE ELSE.

I SHOULD HAVE COUNTED HOW MANY TIMES I'VE SEEN MODIFICATIONS TO CRAIG RANCH OVER EIGHT YEARS.

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ANYONE ELSE? KAYLYN.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE, THANK YOU MR. GREGORY? YES, YOU'RE UP.

GOOD EVENING.

CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS, UH, CASEY GREGORY SANCHEZ, ASSOCIATES TWO 10 ADRIATIC PARKWAY AND MCKINNEY.

UH, THANK YOU STAFF.

UH, LIKE SHE SAID, THIS IS TOWN HOMES RIGHT NOW, SO WE ESTIMATED WE COULD PROBABLY GET 35 TO 40 TOWN HOMES THERE BY DOWN ZONING TO THE SINGLE FAMILY.

WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA GET IT 26, 27.

SO IT'S A REDUCTION.

UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE.

THE REDUCTION WORKS AGAINST OUR ARGUMENT EARLIER WE HEARD, OR YOU NEED MORE HOUSING, SO YOU'RE ARGUING AGAINST YOURSELF.

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WELL, AND WHEN WE DID THE, UH, THE PINNACLE, WHICH IS IN THE YELLOW CIRCLE THERE TO THE DOWN THERE, UH, THAT WAS VERY POPULAR AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DEMAND TO KIND OF MIMIC THAT.

SO JUST A QUESTION, CASEY, YOU'RE REDUCING THE, OR POTENTIALLY REDUCING THE DENSITY FROM WHAT TO WHAT? SO IT WAS A TOWNHOME ZONING BEFORE, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PD SAID ON THE DENSITY, BUT WE COULD, WE THOUGHT WE COULD GET MAYBE 40 AT THE TOP ON THAT SITE JUST BECAUSE OF HOW IT'S LAID OUT.

UH, THE WAY WE'VE LAID IT OUT NOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY, THERE ARE 27 LOTS, SO IT'S REDUCTION OF 12 MAYBE.

OKAY, VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

YEP.

THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU'VE COME TO NINE AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS PLANNING AND ZONING REGARDING THIS PROPOSED REZONE, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM, MAKE A MOTION, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, APPROVE THE ITEM FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. MANZO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM.

AS FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION SECOND.

SECOND BY MR. LEBO.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE

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THAT THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THE ITEM WILL BE SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOR FINAL ACTION AT THE OCTOBER 17TH, 2023 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

OKAY, THAT CONCLUDES OUR, UH, AGENDA FOR OUR, UH, PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME TO THE PODIUM TO THE PODIUM NOW AND SPEAK ON ANYTHING.

IT'S NOT ON OUR AGENDA, ANYONE.

ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM.

[COMMISSION AND STAFF COMMENTS]

STAFF TO WEIGH IN ON ANY, ANY NEWS YOU MIGHT HAVE, MR. MS. STRICKLAND, ANYTHING? NOTHING CURRENTLY.

UM, I KNOW THAT JENNIFER AND I DEFINITELY WANTED TO RECOGNIZE COMMISSION MEMBERS, UM, MANS EYE WOODRUFF, BUT I THINK I JUMPED AHEAD OF JENNIFER, SO IT'S YOU JUMPED, BILL.

THAT'S OKAY.

I'LL LET BILL GO NEXT.

THAT'S OKAY.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

NOW, UM, TONIGHT IS THE, IS THE END OF AN ERA.

UH, WE ARE, WE'RE LOSING TWO OF OUR, UM, BEST AND STRONGEST PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEMBERS TO OTHER THINGS.

UH, YOUR TIME SERVED HAS BEEN APPRECIATED AND WE UNDERSTAND THE SACRIFICE.

AND, UM, WHEN I SAY YOU'RE GOING TO BE MISSED, TRULY MEAN YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE MISSED.

WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE BROUGHT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING, UH, WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF AND SHARING YOUR KNOWLEDGE WITH THIS BOARD.

WE DO APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I'D SAY I'VE ENJOYED THE EIGHT YEARS.

I'VE LEARNED A TON, UH, AS FAR AS THAT GOES.

UH, UH, I'VE ENJOYED BEING BESIDE, UH, CHAIRMAN COX HERE.

THERE'S PROBABLY NOT BEEN A BETTER INDIVIDUAL RUN A MEETING THAT I'VE EVER BEEN INVOLVED WITH ON ALL THE BOARDS, MA'AM.

SO THAT HAS BEEN, UH, GREAT LESSONS LEARNED ALONG THE WAY.

UH, STAFF, UH, YOU'RE APPRECIATED.

I COULD NOT IMAGINE BEING IN YOUR JOBS AND YOUR POSITIONS AT TIMES.

UH, YOU COULD HEAR A LOT OF OPINIONS AND THEN I GET TO LIKE OVERBEAR ON MY OPINION AT TIMES TOO, .

SO, UH, YOU'RE APPRECIATED.

YOU DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, UH, TODAY AND FOR YEARS AND YEARS TO COME.

SO GREATLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE WITH EVERYONE.

I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL, UH, LETTING ME SERVE FOR SOME YEARS NOW ALONG THE WAY.

SO, UH, THANK Y'ALL.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

YEAH, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY, RYAN'S ACTUALLY THE ONE THAT INVITED ME TO OR ENCOURAGED ME TO, TO RUN FOR THIS OFFICE.

AND, UH, I GOT CHOSEN BY COUNCIL AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

AND BRIAN, AND I'VE HAD A LOT OF FUN UP HERE THE LAST, I'VE BEEN UP HERE FOR FOUR YEARS AS AN ALTERNATE FOR TWO AND FULL-TIME FOR TWO YEARS.

SO WE'VE HAD A, A LOT OF FUN.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, TO, YOU KNOW, BILL, HE, HE MENTIONED TO YOU, YOU, YOU DO RUN A MEETING BETTER THAN ANYBODY I'VE EVER, UH, I RUN AROUND THE CITY OR, YOU KNOW, THE METROPLEX AND, UH, NOT ONLY EVEN COUNCILS, BUT NOBODY RUNS A MEETING LIKE YOU AND P AND Z OR COUNCILS.

SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE INCREDIBLE.

AND IT'S BEEN A FUN BEING ON HERE.

AND THEN STAFF, UH, YOU KNOW, IT IS AN A STAFF.

IT IS, YOU KNOW, AND HONESTLY YOU HAVE A GREAT LEADER IN JENNIFER AND JENNIFER, YOU, AGAIN, IT'S JUST TO BILL'S COMMENT, RIGHT? THERE'S, THERE'S A QUALITY PEOPLE IN THIS CITY DOING PLANNING AND ZONING.

THERE'S VERY FEW AND YOU'RE ONE OF THE VERY FEW THAT, UH, THAT HAVE KNOWS THEIR STUFF.

AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF FUN.

BEEN WORKING WITH YOU GUYS AND KAITLYN AND, AND EVERYBODY ELSE.

SO YOU, YOU GUYS GOT A GREAT TEAM AND KEEP IT GOING.

AND, UH, THANKS TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE UP HERE FOR FOUR YEARS.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO MY NEXT FOUR IN, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SO WHAT'S THAT? UH, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ALLOWED.

.

ANYONE ELSE? THANKS EVERYBODY.

I JUST WANNA SAY THANKS GUYS.

YOU'VE BEEN AN EXAMPLE FOR THIS.

NEWER MEMBERS.

UM, I'VE WATCHED VERY CLOSELY.

AND SO EVERY, EVERY SESSION I COME IN HERE, I TRY TO THINK, WHAT WOULD BRIAN ASK? WHAT WOULD SCOTT ASK ? AND IF, UH, IF I DON'T HEAR IT ASK, I MAKE SURE I WRITE IT DOWN AND TRY TO ASK IT.

SO I'LL CARRY THAT LEGACY FORWARD.

I PROMISE YOU, IN THESE NEXT SESSIONS.

AND, UH, I MAY NOT BE AS RANTY, BUT I'LL TRY TO BE AS CLOSE AS I POSSIBLY CAN.

, PREACH, ASK ABOUT THE SCREENING.

THERE WON'T BE A DRIVE THROUGH ANYWHERE THAT I'LL EVER REALIZE.

, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I, I I DO.

YOU GUYS HAVE ALL BEEN, UH, APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL TO HEAR YOUR OPINION, SO PLEASE NOTE YOUR OPINIONS TO COUNCIL.

THEY NEED TO HEAR IT OF RECORD.

AND ON THE MINUTES, UH, PATRICK'S OVER THERE NINE IN HIS HEAD.

THEY, THEY ACTUALLY, THEY VERY MUCH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL CALL YOU, BELIEVE IT OR NOT VERY MUCH.

THEY CALL QUITE A BIT.

SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE EVERY MEETING AND APPRECIATE THE EXPERIENCE THAT YOU HAVE.

ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, WE DO NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

I

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MAKE YOUR LAST MOTION.

I KNOW WHO'S GOT THE SECOND .

MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SECOND MOTION BY MR. MANZA TO ADJOURN.

SECOND BY MR. WOODRIFF.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

IT IS 7 38 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED, CAPTAIN.

THANK YOU.