Oct 05, 2023 Historic Preservation Advisory Board

[CALL TO ORDER]

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OKAY. GOOD EVENING. IT IS 5. 30 PM TO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY'S HISTORIC PRESERVATION ADVISORY BOARD MEETING OF OCTOBER, THE 5TH 2023 THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT YOU SEE SEATED BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING HAVE BEEN APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND WE SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY COUNCIL. AND I JUST WANT TO WELCOME MARSHA HERE TONIGHT. SHE'S OUR SHE'S OUR ALTERNATE, AND WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND WELCOME TO THE BOARD. THANK YOU . IF YOU ARE HERE THIS EVENING AND WISH TO SPEAK PEAK DURING A PUB. DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS SECTION PLEASE COMPLETE A SPEAKERS CARD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND LIMIT YOUR REMARKS TO THREE MINUTES. WE ASK THAT YOU BE CONCISE IN YOUR COMMENTS AND SPEAK ONLY ONCE, IF NECESSARY TO CLARIFY OR TO ANSWER QUESTIONS POSED BY THE AUDIENCE. CITY STAFF WILL BE CALLED TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED BY THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE.

THE BOARD REQUEST THAT WE ALL TREAT EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT. FOCUS ON THE ISSUES AND BE CONCISE IN YOUR COMMENTS. WE ALL WANT TO ACT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF ALL THE CITIZENS OF MCKINNEY WHILE MAINTAINING THE HERITAGE AND HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. WE

[Election of the Chair and Vice-Chair]

WE WILL MOVE TO THE ELECTION OF THE VICE CHAIR. DO DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE VICE CHAIR? TIM IS OUR VICE CHAIR, RIGHT? TIM WILLIAMS IS SERVING AS OUR BODIES CHAIR. I MOVED TO, UH, HAVE HIM AS A REST YEAR. MR FIDEL. DO I HAVE A 2ND 2ND BY MR WEST? OKAY DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. RAISE YOUR HAND OPPOSED. OKAY TIM, CONGRATULATIONS. YOU ARE OUR LAST CHAIR. OKAY? DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE NON PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA ITEMS? AND

[CONSENT ITEMS]

ITEM NUMBER 23-0785. OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ADVISORY BOARD REGULAR MEETING OF SEPTEMBER THE 7TH 2023 I'M ASSUMING THAT EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT. AND IF SO, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT? SO MOVE. BYE. MR MCWILLIAMS DO HAVE A SECOND. MS FIDEL ALL OF FAVOR. RAISE YOUR HAND OPPOSED. OKAY UNANIMOUSLY PASSED. OKAY WE WILL MOVE TO THE

[Informational Update Regarding Municipal Projects in the downtown area]

COULD EVENING ALL OF OUR NEWLY ELECTED OR RE ELECTED BOARD MEMBERS. NICE TO SEE YOU ALL TODAY. HOPE YOU GET TO ENJOY SOME OF THE BEAUTIFUL WEATHER THAT'S COMING OUR WAY. THIS COMING FEW DAYS. NOT SO MUCH SO CASSIE IS GOING TO ACTUALLY DO THE HISTORIC MAKE ANY RESOURCE SURVEY SECTION. BUT JUST A FEW UPDATES ON DOWNTOWN. YOU'VE GOT AN UPDATE LAST MONTH. KEEP GOING WINDY. KEEP GOING. ONE MORE. THE THAT ONE? YEP, THAT ONE. MHM. LAST MONTH, MISS LANG FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT CAME AND GAVE YOU ALL A KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WERE GOING ON. AND IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT WHEN WE DID THAT LITTLE OVERVIEW, WE FORGOT TO POINT OUT THAT A LOT OF THAT IS ON THE EAST MCKINNEY REDEVELOPMENT WEB PAGE. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. WHEN YOU OPEN IT UP, AND IT'S KIND OF SMALL IN THIS IMAGE, BUT WHEN YOU OPEN IT UP, THERE ARE SIX BOXES THERE. ONE IS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. ONE IS FOR PROJECTS. ONE IS STUDIES MCKINNEY CITY HALL. NOTIFY ME AND BACKGROUND SO THE NOTIFYING ME IS JUST TO SIGN UP TO GET INFORMATION. INFRASTRUCTURE IS A LOT OF THAT STUFF THAT MISS LANG WAS TALKING ABOUT LAST MONTH WITH SIDEWALKS AND ROADS AND ROUNDABOUTS, AND THAT KIND OF THING AND PROJECTS ARE CITY HALL. UM, WHEN WE DID THE PARKING LOT TWO YEARS. I GUESS

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[Update on the Historic Resources Survey (Historic McKinney Survey ’23)]

UM, SOMEONE WILL BE AT THE SAMANTHA, WHO IS FROM HICKSON COMPANY WILL BE AT THE LEGACY NEIGHBORHOODS FALL FESTIVAL ON SATURDAY AND THAT IS FROM 11 TO 2. RUSSIAN CATHY. WHEN DID YOU SAY THEY'RE DOING THE SURVEY? WORK? UM THE NEXT ROUND OF SURVEY WORK IS THE NINTH TO THE 13TH 1913, OKAY? AND IF YOU CONTACT THEM, AND YOU SAY I CAN ONLY DO THE 13TH AND I CAN ONLY DO THIS TIME. DON'T MAKE IT WORK. THEY DON'T ELIZABETH'S NUMBER. SHE SAID. IF WE GET ANY MORE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO HELP THAT JUST A TEXTER, OKAY? YEAH THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH WHATEVER SCHEDULE YOU'VE GOT. IF THEY'RE OUT THERE. THEY DEFINITELY WANT SOME HELP FOR SURE HOW I COULD HELP. BUT SHE SAID I COULD TAKE PICTURES, SO I THINK I CAN I THINK I CAN DO THAT. YOU CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT . YEAH ANYONE CAN GO OUT THERE AND TAKE THE CALENDAR. I CAN TAKE PICTURES. THE NICE THING ALSO IS WHEN YOU'RE TAKING PHOTOS. THIS IS SOMETHING THEY TOLD US WHEN WE MET WITH THEM IS THAT THEY'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT THEM AS THEY COME IN REAL TIME.

SO IF YOU'RE SCARED OF MESSING UP, DON'T WORRY. THEY'LL CATCH IT AND SAY OKAY, WE NEED TO RETAKE THAT PHOTO. SO THERE'S ALWAYS ONE STARTING AT 7 30 MONDAY MORNING. YES THEY ARE

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WOULD YOU TALK ABOUT UM THE LAST TIME THAT WE ACTUALLY DID. THIS KIND OF SURVEY MIGHT KIND OF GIVE SOME BACKGROUND ON ON. YOU KNOW THE SIGNIFICANCE OF IT WHILE WE'RE DOING IT AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH IT. YEAH YOU CAN. GO AHEAD, PAULA, IF YOU WANT TO. OKAY THE DATES. OKAY SO WE DID OUR FIRST SURVEY AS A CITY IN EARLY THE EARLY 19 EIGHTIES WITH THE COMMERCIAL HISTORIC SURVEY, AND THEN THAT TRANSITIONED INTO THE KIND OF GENERAL HISTORIC SURVEY THAT WENT ALL OVER WHAT? WELL WHAT WAS THEN? ALL OVER MCKINNEY BECAUSE THAT WAS THE EIGHTIES.

AND SO WE DIDN'T QUITE WE WEREN'T QUITE AS BIG THEN. UM, AND SOME OF THE PROPERTIES THERE WERE OUTSIDE OF OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT. SOME OF THEM AREN'T THERE ANYMORE, SO THAT YOU KNOW THAT WAS THAT SITUATION. UM AND THEN WE DID AN UPDATED ONE IN 2005, WHICH WAS STILL MOSTLY THE SAME AREA AND THEN IN 2015. WE DID ANOTHER ONE. THAT WAS JUST THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND SO THAT JUST WENT OUT AND TOOK BASICALLY NEW PHOTOS AND UPDATED SOME INFORMATION FOR ALL THE PROPERTIES AND THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. SO THAT WAS THE 2015 IS THE LAST TIME WE DID ANYTHING. 2005 WAS REALLY THE LAST TIME WE DID THE WHOLE THING AND WE CALL IT THE 2005 SURVEY, BUT MOST OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS WERE IN 2004. AND SO IT'S BEEN ALMOST 20 YEARS SINCE WE HAD A LOT OF PHOTOGRAPHS TAKEN OF THIS AREA IN 40 YEARS. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE EAST SIDE PROPERTIES, SO DEFINITELY A LOT HAS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN MORE INFORMATION INTO INFORMATION. UM AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE THAT IT WILL. UM WE WILL HAVE THE G. I S MAP OF THE DIFFERENT DATA POINTS AND PHOTOGRAPHS AND, UM, AS CASSIE SAID, ALL THE INFORMATION THEY ARE COLLECTING, WHICH IS LIKE WHAT KIND OF ROOF DOES IT HAVE? AND WHAT KIND OF WINDOWS AND WHAT KIND OF DOORS AND IT'S JUST A REALLY BIG SPREADSHEET, SO WE'LL HAVE ALL OF THAT. AND THE ASSOCIATED REPORT GOING ALONG WITH IT, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO BUILD OUT THAT REPORT TO INCLUDE SOME OF THE HISTORIES THAT ARE TYPICALLY UNDER TOLD STORIES AS THEY AS THEY CALL IT, THE STATE OF TEXAS UNDER TOLD STORIES THAT REALLY FOCUSED ON SOME OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN AND LATIN AMERICAN FAMILIES THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH OF A HISTORY ON BEFOREHAND.

SO WE'RE LOOKING TO LEARN A LOT OF THINGS FROM THE SURVEY AND THEN SEE WHERE IT TAKES US IN THE FUTURE. WHETHER WE CHANGE DISTRICTS MODIFY THINGS, DESIGNATE THINGS, WHATEVER WHATEVER COMES OUT OF THAT. YES, THANK YOU. BODY ELSE. EVERYTHING THEY WANT TO ADD, OR ASK HER.

OKAY? OKAY UM, THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION. UM, LET'S SEE.

I'VE LOST MY PLACE. LAST PAGE. WHICH TWO I DON'T NUMBER 23. YES 076 DISCUSSED THE FUNCTION OF

[Discuss the function of the planning department interactive map tools and a receive a brief historic preservation programs update.]

ALRIGHT, SO. UM GOOD EVENING, AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO OVER SOME REFRESHERS AS WELL AS

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TOUR. BOTH OF THOSE ARE PHANTOMS AND OUTLAWS. SO IT IS DIFFERENT THEMED MONTH. UM IMPALA WILL BE DOING BOTH OF THOSE. AND THEN AS WELL. JUST TALKING ABOUT THE STATEWIDE TRAININGS AND CONFERENCES. JUST WANT TO TOUCH THAT ON THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION SITE. THERE ARE STILL THOSE C LG WORKSHOPS AS WELL AS WEBINARS THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT AND USE IT. YOUR LEISURE. AND THEN ALSO GO AHEAD TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT AND I'M NOT SURE MARSHA MAY KNOW WHAT C L G. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT? JUST BECAUSE OF YOUR BACKGROUND. GOOD GOOD.

GOOD OKAY, SO THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE WORKING ON . RIGHT UM, TO SEE IF WE WOULD BENEFIT FROM FROM GETTING THAT CERTIFICATION AND UM, ANYWAY, SO SHE ALREADY KNOWS. SO THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU FOR MAKING SURE THAT AND THEN WE WERE ALSO GOING TO TALK ABOUT AN ANNUAL TRAINING SCHEDULE, WHICH IS ON OUR NEXT SLIDE. SO STAFF HAS JUST COME UP WITH SOME TOPICS THAT WE THOUGHT OF, UM, THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO GO OVER WITH Y'ALL AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH. JUST HAVE SOMETHING AS LIKE SOME SORT OF TRAINING. SO FOR THIS MONTH, IT'S THIS PRESENTATION ITSELF, THE BOARD UPDATES AND THE TOOLS REFRESHER. WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO DO KIND OF ANNUALLY. UM AND THEN I MAY IT WOULD BE WHATEVER OUR PRESERVATION MONTH HIGHLIGHT IS, BUT THEN WE ALSO THE REST OF THE SLIDER JUST KIND OF IDEAS THAT WE HAD FOR THE TRAININGS. SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE THE IMPORTANCE OF MAINTENANCE, LOCAL INCENTIVES AS WELL AS JUST HP B AND THE ROLES, PRESERVATION PLANS AND STRATEGIES SPOTLIGHT IN ARCHITECTURAL STYLES. THE ROLE OF HP ABYAN MCKINNEY, WHICH WOULD BE A REFRESHER BEFORE THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS APPLICATIONS HOPEFULLY UM, JUST SPECIAL TOPICS WHICH WE THOUGHT OF A DOWNTOWN FOCUS AND THEN RESIDENTIAL TOPICS. IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE TRAINING ON. PLEASE LET US KNOW. AND WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT AND COME BACK ON A MONTH. SO WE WOULD DO THIS. WHAT YOU'RE THINKING IS WE WOULD PICK MAYBE TWO OR THREE OF THESE. EACH MEETING. IS THAT JUST AS A IS THAT WHAT YOU WANNA MEETING? OKAY ESSENTIALLY SO AT THE END OF THE MEETING KIND OF LIKE THIS ONE, WE WOULD JUST BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION ON SOME TOPICS AND YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S NOT QUITE 12 THINGS UP THERE.

AND THERE'S A COUPLE REASONS FOR THAT ONE. WE KNOW FEBRUARY DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE NO MATTER HOW HARD WE TRY IT SNOWS EVERY FEBRUARY DRAGGING THIS YEAR WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. BUT THEN THAT LEAVES US SOME TIME FOR WHEN THINGS COME UP LIKE THE FOURTH OF JULY FOLLOWING ON A THURSDAY AND SO WE DON'T HAVE A JULY MEETING THAT KIND OF THING. SO UM, CAN WE ADD TO THIS LIKE, IF YOU IF WE SEE SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO ADD, UM AS FAR AS TOPICS TO LOOK AT IS THAT YOU WANT US TO TELL YOU NOW, OR DO YOU WANT US TO? IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING NOW I HAVE A PEN. I CAN WRITE IT DOWN. IF YOU'D RATHER EMAIL ME LATER. THAT IS PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE TO I'M NOT GONNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. ACH THERE'S ONE THING THAT I MEAN, I'M I CAN THINK OF ONE THING THAT I THINK WOULD BE INTERESTING. AND I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE YOU'RE EVERYONE'S SITTING UP HERE KNOWS IT. BUT I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW. LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS OF HOW WHEN WE HAVE WHEN SOMETHING GOES TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, UM. THAT IF IT'S IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT UM HOW IS THAT HANDLED ANY DIFFERENT IF IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT? I MEAN, WHAT IS OUR WHAT IS OUR ROLE IN THAT ANY AND BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, ONCE A DECISION IS MADE BY THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, THAT'S THE FINAL DECISION. IT'S NOT. IT DOESN'T GO IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL. AND SO I'M I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE EVER DISCUSSED THAT, OR YOU KNOW WHERE WHERE WE ARE WE IN THAT PROCESS SOMEPLACE. IF IT'S IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. OKAY, I'LL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT. AND ONE OTHER THING, AND I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE IT'S UP THERE. UM

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AND IS THERE A WAY AND I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE IF I WAS TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THIS IS THERE A WAY TO, UH UM. SINGLE THAT OUT AND TO LET PEOPLE KNOW YOU KNOW APARTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED. IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT . I DON'T KNOW. DO YOU ALL SEE THAT IS VERY HELPFUL TO SEE THE PROGRESS THAT'S BEING MADE. AND TO BE ABLE TO BASICALLY. OVERSEAS BUT ENCOURAGE THAT SORT OF THING. I THINK IT'S VIABLE. NO THESE THINGS I THINK WHEN WE GET TO THE DEVELOPMENT SNAPSHOT PORTAL, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT, OKAY? ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THIS WAS JUST SHOWING THE BOARD'S ROLLS YOUR ORDINANCE EMPOWERMENT, SO THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO ON THE BOARD RECOMMEND LANDMARKS AND IZ APPLICATIONS MARKERS. UM MINUTES AND RECORDS THAT SORT OF THING.

SO I JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY PUT THAT UP ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU. AND SO THEN THE DIFFERENT TOOLS THAT I'M GOING TO GO OVER ARE THE HISTORIC RESOURCES MAP. THE CEO A MAP THE PLANNING RESOURCES MAP, AND THEN THE DEVELOPMENT SNAPSHOT PORTAL. AH! AND WE OBVIOUSLY THIS IS UPLOADED IN THE AGENDA. SO IF YOU EVER FORGET WHICH ONES WHICH YOU CAN DEFINITELY GO BACK, AND LOOK, UM LET'S SEE HOW WE CAN CLICK ON IT. SO THE HISTORIC RESOURCES MAP THAT'S MORE THE GENERAL INFORMATION MAP. UM, IT'S GOING TO HAVE YOUR MARKER APPLICATIONS. UM YOU CAN CLICK THROUGH AND SEE THE DIFFERENT INFORMATION. IS IT A STATE MARKER? THAT SORT OF THING? IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST GENERAL ONE THAT'S STILL PERTAINING JUST TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION. IF YOU OPEN THE LAPTOP WHEN WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO LET YOU USE THE LAPTOP, AND THEN YOU CAN UM GO TO THE ACTUAL OLYMPIC CHICKEN WALKERS. WE CAN SEE IT ACTUALLY. SEE YOU DO IT. AND THAT IS THE GOAL FOR THE BOND COMMITTEE MEETING DEFINITELY NEEDS TO GET CLOSED. I KNOW THAT'S WHAT'S ON HERE. YEAH, GET THERE. SO THE HISTORIC RESOURCES MAP IS GOT A NICE KIND OF TINY U R L WHERE YOU CAN WRITE MCKINNEY, TEXAS. ORG SLASH HISTORIC MATH AND THAT'LL COME UP PRETTY QUICKLY.

CASSIE IS GOING IN THE LONG WAY. I AM GOING THE WAY THAT MOST PEOPLE GO IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE TINY OR L YOU HAVE TO GO THIS WAY. THAT ONE. I THINK FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. IT'S BEEN BENEFICIAL TO USE THE TERM. BECAUSE IT LETS THOSE IN THE NEIGHBORING NEIGHBORHOOD SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF IT AND FOLLOW SUIT. IF YOU WILL. SO IT WAS THIS ENLARGING OF THE DISTRICT PURSE, A I THINK THERE'S A THERE'S A DIALOGUE BETWEEN. IMMEDIATE PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS AND THOSE AROUND IT , WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT, AND I THINK IT'S QUITE VALUABLE. SO THIS IS JUST A MCKINNEY OPEN DATA WEBSITE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF Y'ALL HAVE USED THIS OR SEEN IT BEFORE. THIS SHOWS ALL OF THE G I S MAPS. SO THEN. WE ARE JUST GOING TO SCROLL DOWN. THERE'S A LOT THERE ARE A LOT. SORT FREEZE. SO WHEN YOU FIRST OPEN IT UP, THIS IS WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. SOMETHING THAT I ALWAYS LIKE TO POINT OUT IS THE IT'S GONNA ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT. UM YOU CAN CLICK OVER HERE. THAT'S GOING TO GIVE YOU THE LAYERS. SO THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ON THE MAP. UM THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU CAN ALSO TURN ON SOMETHING LIKE THE H S A IF YOU WANT TO SEE THAT. UH YOU CAN ALSO TURN ON ZONING. I'M NOT GOING TO BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE OVERWHELMING TO LOOK AT ALL AT ONCE. UM AS WELL AS THIS IS JUST SHOWING YOU THAT THE HISTORIC OVERLAY OR THESE COLORS? UM AND SO IF YOU ZOOM IN. WE'RE JUST GOING TO CLICK ON A DIET. I'M JUST GOING TO PICK A RANDOM ONE.

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AND THEN THE NEXT ONE. I'LL GO OVER. LIKE I SAID, THIS ONE IS KIND OF THE GENERAL OVERVIEW OF HISTORIC RESOURCES. THE NEXT ONE IS THE SHIPMENT OF APPROPRIATENESS MAP. THAT'S OUR NEWEST MAP. UM THIS IS GOING TO HAVE ALL OF THE C E. O S. FROM THIS YEAR, 22 AND 2022. SO IF YOU LET'S PICK A RANDOM ONE. YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT A SECOND. DON'T BE IMPATIENT. AH SO THAT WILL SHOW YOU THAT THIS WAS A C O A WAS DONE IN 2022. IT WAS NUMBER 66. AND THAT WAS ON THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE. 504 WEST VIRGINIA, AND IT'S STILL GOING TO GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION THAT WAS ON THE HISTORIC RESOURCES MAP AS WELL. BUT YOU CAN ALSO JUST CLICK RIGHT HERE.

WHAT'S THAT? THAT WAS THE HOUSE. AND YOU GET MORE INFORMATION. SO THIS WAS A REAR PATIO EDITION.

OH, YEAH. NEGATIVE SORT OUT. IT WAS NOT PLANNED. RANDOMLY DIDN'T RANDOMLY SELECTED THAT ONE.

LISTEN. YEAH, I CAN PICK A DIFFERENT ONE. UM. BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S GOING TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION FOR ANY OTHER ONES THAT YOU CLICK ON. 902, WEST VIRGINIA. THIS ONE WAS ALSO DONE IN 2022. UM. THAT WAS A FENCE, REMOVING ANN ARBOR IN THE BACKYARD, A REAR PATIO AND A PATIO COVER. OKAY, I'M GONNA I'M GONNA INTERRUPT FOR A SECOND. SO THIS KIND OF GETS TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT PERMITS THAT WERE ISSUED, SO OA HAS TO BE APPROVED BEFORE A PERMIT CAN BE ISSUED FOR ANY CHANGES TO ANYTHING IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND SO IF IT'S ON THIS MAP AND GENERALLY IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A PERMIT ISSUED FOR IT, BECAUSE IT'S GETTING CHANGED NOW THAT SAID, IF THEY WERE TO CHANGE A DOOR, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED A PERMIT TO CHANGE A DOOR. WINDOWS YES. ROOFS. YES FENCES? YES CITING YES, BUT YOUR FRONT DOOR ODDLY.

NO UM, BUT YOU NEED TO SEE A WAY. BUT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED A DOOR. I'VE EXCUSE ME A PERMIT, AND SO YOU'LL YOU'LL SEE THAT KIND OF DATA ON HERE AND THIS IS LIKE LIKE WE SAID, FROM 2022 AND 2023, BECAUSE IT'S WHAT IT FEEDS OFF OF THE DATA THAT WE PUT INTO OUR DIGITAL LAND MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE. AND SO WE STORE THE ECOWAS IN THE DIGITAL LAND MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE NOW AND THAT WAY PERMITTING, AND EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO IT AS WELL. SO IT'S ALL PART OF THAT.

PROCESS TO STREAMLINE IT AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO FOLLOW. IN ORDER FOR SOMEONE TO GET A PERMIT TO MAKE CHANGES. I'M JUST CLARIFYING. THEY HAVE TO GET A C O A FIRST. IF IT'S ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, OKAY? GOT IT. AND IF IT'S A HISTORIC PROPERTY. AND THOSE ALL HAVE TO COME THROUGH US. NONE NO , NO. SO THE ECOWAS GO THROUGH CASSIE'S IN MY OFFICE WHEN IT COMES TO THE BOARD IS WHEN IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK AT AND GO. THAT DOESN'T FIT WITH THE SECRETARY OF STANDARDS, AND SO THEN IT BECOMES A DECISION FOR Y'ALL. OR WHEN IT'S A DEMOLITION IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, AND SO SOMEBODY COMES IN AND SAYS WE WANT TO DEMO THE HOUSE THAT WHERE THE LITTLE BUILDING AT 101 SOUTH JUST THAT WHICH HAPPENS TO BE IN THE REGULAR RESIDENTIAL AREA, IT'S I KNOW IT'S A COMMERCIAL BUILDING, BUT IT'S IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THEN THAT COMES TO THE BOARD AND THEY GET TO DECIDE, OKAY. SO WE COULD YOU COULD DO A C L. A IN THE END, GO TO THE PERMIT. ARE WE? ARE YOU GOING TO SHOW US HOW TO LOOK AT PERMITS PERMITS ANOTHER MAP THAT DEVELOPMENT SNAPSHOT. I THINK IT'S THE ONE THAT YOU'RE THINKING OF. BUT YEAH, THE ONE MAP. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY, BUT THAT'S WHY I LEFT THEM BOTH OPEN. UH OKAY. I NOTICED THAT

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AND SO IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BOTH PLACES BUT WILL PROBABLY TAKING IT OFF OF THIS MAP. BECAUSE, REALLY, IT'S JUST DICTATED. WHATEVER HAPPENS ON IT IS DICTATED BY THE MTC. BUT THAT HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT AREA IS THE AREA THAT'S ROUGHLY SYNONYMOUS WITH THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT ZONE. SO THE AGE AND I SEE THIS IS ROUGHLY THE SAME AS AGENT. I THINK THERE'S TWO OR THREE STREETS DOWN NEAR THE SOUTH END THAT ARE DIFFERENT. AND THAT'S AND THAT'S REALLY NOT SO MUCH FOR OUR INFORMATION HERE AT THIS BOARD THAT IS IN A MAY IN THE MAIN PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. THERE ARE A SET OF ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS IN THE UNIFORM DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT PROPERTY DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS REGION HAVE TO FOLLOW AND SO AND SAY THEY WANT TO BUILD A NEW BUILDING IN THERE. THEY'VE GOT TO SUBMIT TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, A SET OF FACADE PLANS. NOT UNLIKE WE WOULD SEE FOR ELEVATIONS BECAUSE THAT'S ALL REALLY EPISODE POINT IS AT AN ELEVATION SHOWING WHAT THE BUILDING IS GOING TO GET LOOK LIKE AND THEN THAT WOULD GET APPROVED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT OR THE PNC BOARD. SO THAT THAT'S FOR THIS AREA. YOU CAN GO IF YOU WERE TO GO OUTSIDE OF THIS HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT AREA. YOU CAN MAKE IT LOOK LIKE WHATEVER YOU WANT IN THE CITY DOESN'T GET TO SAY AND NEITHER DOES OPINIONS ANYMORE. WELL, I MEAN, THEY BUILDING REGULATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THE PRETTY FACTOR IS NOT THERE. SO. I'M GONNA PROBABLY WOULD NEVER USE THOSE. PROBABLY NOT FOR ANYTHING THAT WE DO. UM, YOU WOULD. I MEAN, LIKE I SAID THAT HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT AREAS ROUGHLY THE SAME AS THE AGENT IS A AREA SO YOU WOULD SEE PROPERTIES FROM THAT AREA IF IN AN ICY APPLICATION H N I Z APPLICATION COMES IN FROM THAT AREA. ALL RIGHT, AND THEN JUST ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE CHAOS. WE'VE GOT THE PLANNING RESOURCES MAP NOT GIVEN A TEST AFTER THIS TEST WILL BE EMAILED . IT WILL BE OPEN BOOK, THOUGH. ONE I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE MAPS. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE MAKING THEM EVERY DAY, SO JUST HOLD TIGHT. WE'LL GET ANOTHER RIGHT. AND THEN YOU CAN JUST THINKING THEY'RE ALL ON 11 IS GREAT WHEN YOU KNOW WHAT LAYERS ARE LOOKING FOR, BUT IT CAN BE OVERWHELMING BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THEY'RE PLANNING RESOURCES IS ENOUGH FOR ME. I DON'T CLICK ON THAT CHARACTER DISTRICT. YEAH SO THIS ONE IS PLANNING RESOURCES SO THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT PLANNING IS LOOKING AT, SO IT IS A LOT MORE THAN JUST THE HISTORIC AREA THAT YOU'RE USED TO. BUT WE CAN SEE ZONING. YOU CAN SEE OVERLAY DISTRICT. UM THE NTC LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. SO LET ME JUST I'M GOING TO TURN OFF SOME OF THE LAYERS. I WILL SAY WHEN YOU'RE WORKING WITH THESE MAPS, THAT IS ONE THING DO NOT BE AFRAID TO TURN OFF THE LAYERS. MAKE SURE YOU JUST HAVE THIS LAYER LIST UP. WHICH IS THIS LITTLE LIKE PAPER? UM. AND THEN TURN ON WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE. SO IF YOU WANT TO SEE OVERLAY DISTRICTS, YOU CAN TURN THAT ON. H S A IS ALSO HERE. AND THEN PAULA WAS TALKING ABOUT THE MTC PORTION. SO THIS IS KIND OF NEW FOR US. BUT NOW YOU COULD TYPE IN AN ADDRESS. AND UM, SEE WHICH PORTION OF THE MTC MCKINNEY TOWN CENTER. IF YOU WERE HERE IN 2013 , YOU MIGHT HAVE REMEMBERED AS THE TOWN CENTER STUDY. OUT OF THE TOWN CENTER STUDY CAME TO TOWN CENTER ZONING DISTRICT, AND SO THAT'S WHERE IT HAS ALL THESE . ALL THE COLORS CORRESPOND TO A CHARACTER DISTRICT, AND SO THAT REFERS TO AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT. MICHAEL TALKED ABOUT IT WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE R F Q. IN THE CHARACTER DISTRICT THAT THE R F Q IS IN BUILDINGS CAN BE SO HIGH, AND THEY HAVE TO BE SO CLOSE TO THE STREET AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND SO, DEPENDING ON WHICH CHARACTER DISTRICT ARE IN THEY HAVE THOSE THE DIFFERENT DESIGN ATTRIBUTES THAT YOU HAVE TO MEET. SO IT'S A

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WALKING. YEAH. SO LET'S JUST TURN THAT ONE. LIKE I SAID, DON'T BE AFRAID TO TURN THEM OFF BACK ON. AND SO THIS WILL JUST SHOW YOUR CASE TYPE IF IT'S ACTIVE, THE SUBMITTAL DATE. THIS ONE IS 2015. AND THEN IT ALSO GIVES YOU CONTACT PLANNING IF YOU WANT TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. JUST WHEN YOU EMAIL THEM INCLUDE THE CASE NUMBER. CAN WE GO? CAN WE LOOK AT ONE? LET ME GIVE YOU A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE. BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IN THE I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE MTC.

THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S RIGHT THERE ON HIGHWAY FIVE PINK RIGHT UNDERNEATH OF THIS BOX.

WOULD YOU MIND JUST WALKING US THROUGH? WE WANT TO LOOK AT UH WHAT THAT DESIGN BECAUSE THAT DID NOT COME. THAT'S IN THE MTC . YEP WHICH, SO IT DID NOT COME IN FRONT OF WHO WAS IT THAT WENT TO PLAN Z WENT TO P AND Z THAT DID NOT COME IN FRONT OF US BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION. CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT WHAT THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX IS GONNA LOOK LIKE OR IS THAT CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THAT PROCESS? IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THIS ONE BECAUSE IT WAS THE PLAT. BUT YEAH, SO, YES. SO IF YOU GOT WHAT YOU CAN, SO IF YOU UP THERE THOSE LITTLE ARROWS SHE'S POINTING AT THAT'S THE PIER. YES IF YOU CLICK THROUGH THERE LIKE SHE JUST CLICK THROUGH IT ONCE AND SHE LANDED ON SITE PLAN, SO I WILL KNOW WHEN YOU CLICK ON ANY PARCEL.

IT'S GOING TO SAY A NUMBER ONE OF 11 OF 51 OF 20 WHATEVER. SO IF IT SAYS ONE OF FIVE AND YOU SEE CONVENIENCE, PLATT, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR PICTURES OF WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. IT'S NOT ONLY WANT TO GO TO LIKE A SITE PLAN. OKAY? THEN CLICK THE LINK. THE NEAT THING IS YOU HAVE SO MANY WONDERFUL OPTIONS TO PICK UP THE MISSING INFORMATION AND TO NETWORK TO BE ABLE TO SEE MORE SPECIFICALLY THE REAL HISTORY OF THESE PLACES. THERE'S SO MANY LAYERS OF HISTORY IN THE MIDDLE EAST PLACES AND IT'S APPEALING TO TRY TO THINK OF THAT. FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE CORNER OF HEARD , AND TENNESSEE AND UNMARKED AREA WOULD BE THE NORTH. WEST CORNER HEARD IN TENNESSEE. IS THE SIDE OF THE OLD FINNEY BAKERY, WHICH IS THE FIRST SIGNIFICANT SIDE IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF MCKINNEY. AND OUR AS ARE MANY OTHER COMMERCIAL SITES, YET THEY'RE NOT IN THE DIALOGUE RIGHT NOW. BUT UNDER THIS FORMAT WILL POTENTIALLY BE ABLE TO ADD THEM. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD. ARE VERY SIGNIFICANT THINGS THAT ARE YET TO BE DEFINED. SO THIS IS THE FACADE PLAN THAT YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT, BETTY. ONE THING TO NOTE WHEN YOU'RE ON THIS WEB PAGE. THESE ARE THE INITIAL SUBMITTAL DOCUMENTS. AND SO THAT'S THERE.

THE FIRST DRAWINGS THEY SUBMIT. SOMETIMES A DEVELOPER CAN COME IN AND HAVE 56, HOPEFULLY NOT, BUT USUALLY 12 OR THREE DIFFERENT DESIGNS. AND SO, UM, THIS IS THE FIRST ONE. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ALL OF THEM WHEN YOU WANT TO SEE THE FINAL DESIGN. THEN YOU WOULD GO LOOK AT THE PNC MEETING MINUTES AND USE THAT THAT, UM, THAT NUMBER THAT SHE'S GOT UP THERE. THAT'S 21 FOR THAT ONE, AND THAT WAY YOU CAN. THAT'S HOW YOU CAN FIND THE NUMBER IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING MINUTES. AND THEN THAT JUST LIKE OUR AGENDAS HAVE ALL THE ATTACHMENTS. THERE'S A LOT OF THE ATTACHMENTS WITH WHATEVER THAT THAT FINAL PRODUCT THAT THEY GAVE TO P AND Z TWO OVER US. SO IT LOOKS ROUGHLY LIKE THAT, BUT THAT WOULD BE UNDER DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. YEAH THAT THIS INITIAL PIECE WOULD BE THERE AND THEN THAT THAT FINAL WOULD BE UNDER THE MCKINNEY MEETINGS, PLANNING AND ZONING JUST LIKE YOU FIND OURS. AND SO YOU'LL SEE. THERE'S ACTUALLY DIFFERENT COLORS ON THIS MAP, AND THE DIFFERENT COLORS MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS. AND SO, UM, ONE IS FOR CONVEYANCE. FOR PLATZ . ONE IS FORESIGHT PLANS THAT THERE IS A LEGEND IF YOU CLICK THE NOT THE PANCAKE STACK, BUT THE LITTLE LINES THAT LOOK LIKE BULLETS. THAT'S THE LEGEND. AND SO THAT WILL TELL YOU WHAT THE DIFFERENT COLORS MEAN. ONCE IT LOADS JUST TAKE SOME OF THIS

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AND THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO IT. YOU SEE GREEN AND SAVE GREEN APPROVED THAT CITY HALL SO THERE'S NO PLATFORM TO THAT ONE. YET. IT'S JUST APPROVED. TELL ME AGAIN. WHAT DID YOU SAY? FILE IS THAT'S WITH PLATZ. SO WHEN YOU HAVE A WHEN YOU HAVE A PLAT FOR PARTICULAR PARCEL, AND YOU PROBABLY SHOULD LET HIM SPEAK ON THIS MORE THAN ME, BUT HE'S THE LAWYER IN THE ROOM, BUT YOU HAVE TO FILE A PLAT WITH THE COUNTY ONCE IT'S FINISHED. YOU SIGNED BY THE CITY OF GOD. AND THEN ACTIVE IS THEY'RE DOING THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING IT. IT'S LIKE IT'S IN THE PROCESS OF BEING REVIEWED OR SOMETHING. LIKE IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT APPROVED YET. IT'S NOT DENIED YET. IT'S NOT DISPROVED YET. IT'S STILL BEING REVIEWED. OKAY, SO SOMETIMES IT'S NOT UPDATED. I WILL TELL YOU THAT SOMETIMES IT'S NOT UPDATED. CAN WE GO TO LET'S LOOK AT ONE OF THOSE ACTIVE ONES LIKE, UM SAY ON HUNT STREET? YEAH, THAT ONE. OKAY, SO THAT JUST SAYS IT'S AN AMENDING PLAN. THAT I BELIEVE IS THE PARKING GARAGE. CHURCH IS NEXT DOOR. LOOKING THERE. IT'S SO THEY WE ONLY KEEP THE FILES IN THE LINK. UM ABOUT THREE YEARS, AND SO IF IT SAYS 2015, IT'S TOO OLD. IT'S NOT THERE YOU'VE GOT YOU HAVE TO GO LOOK AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING TO SEE WHAT IT IS. BUT ALL OF HOW OFTEN ARE THESE UPDATED? IS IT? UM IT'S I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT'S ONCE A WEEK OR ONCE EVERY TWO WEEKS. IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHEN CASES COMING BECAUSE IT'S UPDATED BY G. I S AND R. THE OTHER PART OF OUR PLANNING STAFF, OKAY? THAT ONE LOOKS LIKE IT'S REALLY THAT ONE'S 2021. THERE'S A. ON THAT ONE GO DOWN TO THE ONE THAT'S DISAPPROVED.

WHICH ONE IS THAT ONE IMPROVED PURPLE ONE DOWN THERE? YEAH. IT LOOKS LIKE 20 THAT WAS 2022.

THAT WAS A PLAT. A MINOR REPLAY, OKAY? UM. AT LEAST YOU COULD GO AND LOOK MHM E. MHM. WHAT'S GOING AWAY. YES THERE IF THEY WERE FORMALLY SUBMITTED, YOU CAN SEE THERE SUBMITTAL DOCUMENTS BECAUSE THEN IT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION. OKAY? THAT'S INTERESTING. JUST GOTTA REMEMBER HOW TO GET THERE. YAHOO SO YOUR YOUR AGENDA PACKETS HAVE THE THOSE LITTLE WALK THROUGHS THAT WE DID SO THAT SHOULD YOU HAVE TO DO IT. YOU GOT TO DO A YOUTUBE VIDEO OF HOW TO LIKE YOUTUBE. SO I WILL SAY THE ATTACHMENTS THAT PAUL IS TALKING ABOUT IN THE AGENDA. THAT IS LITERALLY CLICK. AND IT TELLS YOU YOU CLICK ON THIS LINK. IT WILL TAKE YOU TO THIS PAGE AND DOES A STEP BY STEP. THAT'S WHY IT'S A LOT OF PAGES. BUT IT WILL TAKE YOU STEP BY STEP FOR EACH ONE OF THESE MAPS. IT WAS GIVEN ME LIKE EVERY LITTLE CLIQUE. I DID. SO I HAD TO CUT SOME OF THAT BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T NEED EVERY CLICK. I DID. BUT EVEN IF YOU LIKE, GRABBED IT AND MOVED IT TO ZOOM IN. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DENIED AND DISAPPROVED? UM SOME SO, UM, SOME THINGS CAN BE DENIED LIKE A SITE PLAN, BUT A PLAT WOULD BE DISPROVED DISAPPROVED. GOT TO GO BACK AND TRY AGAIN, OKAY? ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THE FINAL ONE IS THAT DEVELOPMENT SNAPSHOT PORTAL. I DON'T PROBABLY YOU CAN'T GET TO IT FROM YOU CAN. IT'S WELL, YOU USUALLY LET'S SAY I'VE GOTTEN THROUGH IT FROM THIS ONE TIME, BUT THE EASIEST WAY TO DO IT IS FROM THE DNA PAGE. FROM OUR DEVELOPMENT, LEAD PAGE. THEN I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU HOW I DO IT JUST MCKINNEY DEVELOPMENT.

PORTAL SNAPSHOTS THAT. THAT WILL TAKE YOU TO THE DEVELOPMENT PORTAL IF YOU'VE UPLOADED A C O A OR PERMIT APPLICATION TO THE TO THIS CSS PORTAL, YOU WOULD FIND IT BECAUSE HERE'S YOUR CSS PORTAL, WHICH SHE SCROLLS DOWN ONE MORE SPACE. SO CSS IS WHERE YOU'D GO TO APPLY FOR YOUR PERMIT OR YOUR C O A. BUT IF YOU KEEP GOING THERE'S THE DEVELOPMENT SNAPSHOT. NOW, IT

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THAT'S GOING TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER WITH PERMITS AND PLANS ALSO SHOULD CODE ENFORCEMENT UM THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN HERE. SO IF WE GO TO PLANNING, SUBMIT ALS . SO IT'S SHOWING YOU A SNAPSHOT OF A MONTH. 30 TO SUBMIT ALS AND THEN HAS THE PLAN TYPES EIGHT SITE PLANS 19 PLATZ. ONE ZONING. TO E. T. J RELEASES. AND TO SPECIFIC USE PERMITS AND YOU CAN CLICK ON ANY OF THEM. THAT'S CITYWIDE. CITY WIDE IT IS CITYWIDE. AND IT WILL SHOW YOU WHO IS ASSIGNED TO WHAT TYPE IT IS. SO IT CONVENIENCE, PLATT. AND WHERE IT IS. AND WHEN YOU ZOOM IN, IT'S GOING TO UPDATE THE NUMBERS. SO IF YOU ONLY WANTED TO SEE ONE PART OF THE CITY. YOU CAN ZOOM IN LIKE THIS. AND THAT'LL ALL UPDATE AS YOU ZOOM. CURRENT INFORMATION. AND THEN AND THEN THE NUMBER TWO IS THE YEAR TO DATE. SO ONE IS THE MONTH AND THEN TWO WAS THE YEAR TODAY IN THE CORNER OVER THERE, YOU CAN CLICK ON THE YEAR TODAY ONE.

ALRIGHT SO THESE ARE COMMERCIAL PERMITS THERE HAVE BEEN THERE WE GO. UM. AS I ZOOM IN, LIKE I SAID, IT UPDATES REAL TIME AS I ZOOM IN, YOU CAN SEE 23 PERMITS. THE TOTAL VALUE OF 23 MILLION AND CLICK ON ANY OF THEM AND GET THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THE SAME WAY YOU CAN ON ANY OTHER PART OF THE WEBSITE. UP FIRE PITS. AND THAT JUST SHOWS YOU WHAT TYPE OF PERMANENT IS AS WELL. SO FINISH OUR ALTERATION. AND THEN PAULA. I'M NOT 100% SURE HOW THEY DECIDE WHICH ONES ARE MAJOR PROJECTS, SIZE AND COST, AND SO YOU'LL SEE. CITY HALL IS ON THIS ONE MCKINNEY MEDALS. THAT APARTMENT BUILDING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A FEW MINUTES AGO IS HERE. THE SPHINX DEVELOPMENT UPON THROCKMORTON, THAT BIG MULTI FAMILY IS ON HERE. BUT IT DOESN'T BREAK IT DOWN INTO HISTORIC DISTRICT VERSUS NO. YOU'VE GOTTA ZOOM IN . I WAS GONNA SAY THIS ONE. ALL RELIES ON YOU ZOOMING IN AND FIGURING OUT WHAT AREA YOU WANT TO BE IN. YEAH AND THIS IS ONLY MAJOR PROJECTS THAT IT HAD A PERMIT ISSUED. THE PERMIT ISN'T ISSUED YET. IT'S JUST DONE ITS SITE PLAN. YOU WOULD ONLY FIND THAT ON THE SITE PLAN MAP. THIS IS THIS IS ONLY AFTER THE PERMIT HAS BEEN ISSUED. DOES IT SHOW UP HERE? YES SO THIS ONE IS THE LIKE A TIMEFRAME AS FAR AS OR IS THERE? A THAT MIGHT BE A HARD QUESTION TO ANSWER THAT WHEN SOMEONE IS GOING TO COME IN AND BUILD SOMETHING LIKE THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX. I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON THE PROJECT AND BUT WHAT KIND OF TIMEFRAME ONCE THEY SUBMIT THE PERMITS OR. ARE YOU ASKING LIKE WHEN THE MAP IS UPDATED OR NO, JUST THE TIMEFRAME OF? I GUESS THERE'S SO MANY VARIABLES, THOUGH. IT'S PROBABLY HARD TO GUESS HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE. YEAH I THINK YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT KIND OF WHEN THE PROJECT IS GONNA SUBMIT, AND THAT'S KIND OF UP TO THEM. YEAH AND THEN THE REVIEW TIME DEPENDS ON LIKE YOU SAID. LOTS OF VARIABLES. HOW MANY THINGS HOW MANY REVISIONS THERE HAS TO BE CHANGES THEY HAD TO MAKE. UM YOU KNOW, THEY COULD. THEY COULD GET ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND THEN COME BACK. OH, WAIT. WE WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING AND THEN PARTS OF IT START OVER AGAIN OR PARTS OF IT CHANGE WHEN THEY'RE APPLYING TO GET PERMIT. THIS IS ONCE THEY'VE GOTTEN THE PERMITS RIGHT IN THE DEVELOPMENT. UM AND BEFORE THEY MAKE IT TO THIS POINT. IS THERE IS THAT WHERE WE USE? WE PLANNING RESOURCES MAP TO FIND THEM. OKAY GOT IT. PLANNING RESOURCES MAP AND THEN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE MEETING AND THOSE ARE THE ONES ON THE PLANNING RESOURCE.

RESOURCES MAP. THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE MAY BE SUBMITTED A PERMIT REQUEST AND ARE JUST STILL UNDER REVIEW. YEAH OR THEY'VE OR THEY'VE BEEN REVIEWED . OKAY AND ONE OF THE

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THERE'S NO WAY ON THEIR TWO SEPARATE BY DATE, THOUGH, BUT THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE THE 1ST 1ST PLACE. YOU WOULD SEE IT OR SOMETIMES THE CEO A MASS. IF YOU GO IF THEY DID IT BEFOREHAND . SOMETIMES THEY'LL DO IT. THEY'LL DO IT LIKE RIGHT ABOUT THE SAME TIME. AND SO THERE'S NOT THAT LEAD TIME THAT YOU WOULD NECESSARILY GET. BUT I WAS GOING TO SAY I WOULD DEFINITELY RELY ON THE PLANNING RESOURCES MAP. BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING IN FOR THOSE MEETINGS AND SUBMITTING A SITE PLAN OR SUBMITTING THE FACADES, THAT SORT OF THING. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT FIRST. THEN THE USUAL PROCESS. IF EVERYTHING IS JUST TOTALLY NORMAL IS AFTER THEY DO . THAT IS WHEN THEY WOULD DO IT LIKE A CEO A. SO IF YOU ARE ONLY LOOKING AT THE MAP, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IT PROBABLY AFTER IT'S BEEN APPROVED BY PLANNING AND AS WELL, THE MAP IS SHOWING YOU WHAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED. PLANNING RESOURCES IS FASTER. AND YOU'RE RIGHT. THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE AND SO IT'S. IT'S JUST A LOT TO GO THROUGH. WE UNDERSTAND. THERE'S A LOT WE SEE TO FALL DOWN A RABBIT HOLE AND JUST YEAH. BUILT IN THE MORNING. YEAH THAT'S THE GLORY OF THE INTERNET BROUGHT THE LIBRARY TO YOUR FINGERTIPS. YEAH THAT WOULD BE COOL. IF THERE WAS A I MEAN, THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD BE WAY TOO MUCH, BUT LIKE YOU COULD HIGHLIGHT A SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD OR AREA AND THEN JUST GET ALERTS WHENEVER THERE'S SOMETHING ADDED TO THAT. PART OF THE MAP, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD WORK. I DON'T PRETEND TO BE THE G I S EXPERT. IDEALLY, UM YEAH, OVERWHELMING. NOT ONLY COULD ASK, I DON'T KNOW. I WAS GONNA

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