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YES, SIR. GOOD AFTERNOON. TODAY IS TUESDAY, DECEMBER 19TH YEAR, 2023 WERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT
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222, NORTH TENNESSEE STREET. GREAT CITY OF MCKINNEY. IT IS 301 IN THE AFTERNOON. WE ARE IN OUR CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION. FIRST ITEM IS PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AT WHICH I DO NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP. I WILL MOVE TO DISCUSSING REGULAR MEETING AGENDA ITEMS. THERE IS ANY ITEM ON THE REGULAR AGENDA COUNCIL LIKE TO ASKING STAFF IN ATTENDANCE. SEEING NONE WILL[Presentation on Lane Closure Fee]
MOVE RIGHT TO OUR WORK SESSION. ADAM 23 1046 PRESENTATION ON LANE CLOSURES FEE PLEASURE FEE.GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UM THE GRINCH MATT RICHARDSON. I'M NOT THE GRINCH MOST OF THE TIME. THANK YOU, BEATRICE. UM. UM MATT RICHARDSON , UM, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. UH GOING TO BRING YOU UP TO DATE ON ON SOME RESEARCH AND INFORMATION WE'VE BEEN PULLING TOGETHER OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS REGARDING A FEE FOR CONTRACTORS AND OTHERS WHO WISH TO USE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY. CLOSED LANES CLOSED ROADWAYS. UM. THERE WE GO RIGHT DIRECTION. THERE WE GO. UM OVER THE LAST YEAR. YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL INSTANCES WHERE THERE'S BEEN SOME MAJOR. UH ROAD AND LANE CLOSURES THAT HAVE HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS ON THE PUBLIC. UM WE'VE HAD THAT LANE CLOSED ON VIRGINIA PARKWAY NEAR MALLARD LAKES DRIVE FOR THE BETTER PART OF SIX MONTHS. COUNTY ROAD 317 WHERE THE ROCK CRUSHER OPERATION IS GOING IN, JUST RECENTLY OPENED BACK UP AFTER BEING CLOSED DOWN FOR ABOUT 2.5 MONTHS. COUCH DRIVE IN THE SAME AREA RIGHT OFF OF 546 WAS CLOSED DOWN FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. MCINTYRE ROAD UP OFF A HIGHWAY FIVE. ANOTHER EXAMPLE. UM AS WELL AS A COUPLE OTHERS THAT ARE STILL UPCOMING BLOOMINGDALE ROAD COUNTY ROAD, 123 BY THE HIGHLAND LAKES DEVELOPMENT. UM ANOTHER SECTION OF BLOOMINGDALE ROAD BY THE RIDGELINE DEVELOPMENT. AH ENCORE WIRE IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT SOME WORK IN THE NEXT YEAR. THAT'S GOT TO GO ACROSS AIRPORT DRIVE. UM AS WELL AS JUST THE VARIOUS, UM UM, UM, LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANES THAT GOING AROUND TOWN THAT WE TRY TO KEEP THOSE TWO JUST OFF PEAK CLOSURES , WHICH WE CONSIDER 9 A.M. TO 4 P.M. DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY. BUT SOMETIMES THEY FOR VARIOUS REASONS. THEY NEED TO GO OUTSIDE THAT. SO WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT SOME OF WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE LAST YEAR. SOME OF WHAT'S COMING UP. UM STARTED TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN BETTER MANAGE THIS. UM AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS AS A FEE FOR LANE CLOSURES AS A FEE FOR RIGHT AWAY USE. START OUT, SAYING THAT ARE ARE ARE START OUT BY SAYING THAT OUR DESIRED OUTCOME FOR THIS IS NOT TO COLLECT A ADDITIONAL FEE IF WE CAN HELP IT. UM WHAT WE'RE ULTIMATELY LOOKING FOR IS GIVING STAFF MORE AUTHORITY TO NEGOTIATE WITH DEVELOPERS AND CONTRACTORS TRYING TO GET BETTER OUTCOMES FOR THE PUBLIC. UM HAVING MORE DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM ON DO YOU REALLY NEED TO CLOSE THE FULL ROAD? UM YOU KNOW, OR CAN WE DO? PARTIAL CLOSURES? UM YOU KNOW, WE, UM, UM, TALK ABOUT TALK ABOUT RIPPING THE BAND AID IF YOU WILL, WHERE IS THE IS, UM IS THE PAIN OF HAVING THE WHOLE ROAD CLOSED FOR TWO OR THREE MONTHS? IS THAT BETTER THAN THE PAIN OF SWAPPING TRAFFIC BACK AND FORTH FOR SIX MONTHS TRYING TO TRY AND TRY TO KEEP IT MOVING? AS WELL AS JUST GETTING CONTRACTORS AND DEVELOPERS TO FOCUS THE RESOURCES ON THE WORK THAT'S REALLY IMPACTING THE TRAVELING PUBLIC. UM AGAIN, USING TEMPORARY PAVEMENT, ALTERNATIVE CONSTRUCTION METHODS , OR ARE THERE EVEN ALTERNATIVE DESIGNS? MAYBE WE COULD WORK WITH THE DEVELOPERS ON ACCOMPLISHING. SO AS WE STARTED LOOKING THROUGH THIS ALL OF OUR NORMAL PEER CITIES HERE IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA, FRISCO, PLANO ALLEN UM, NO ONE'S REALLY DOING ANYTHING LIKE THIS. THERE ARE SEVERAL OF THE LARGER CITIES ACROSS THE STATE THAT DO HAVE, UM HAVE A SIMILAR FEE FOR EITHER USE OF THE RIGHT AWAY LANE CLOSURES. UM FORT WORTH AND AUSTIN SPECIFICALLY, WERE VERY WILLING. THEY HAD STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE VERY WILLING TO TALK TO US ABOUT THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAVE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING. I HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF THEIR OF THE FEE THAT BOTH FORT WORTH AND AUSTIN CHARGE. UM
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WE ARE LOOKING RECOMMENDING TO YOU TO ADOPT SOMETHING SIMILAR. HERE IN MCKINNEY, MOVING FORWARD. ASK A QUESTION? YES. YES, SIR. ON YOUR FEET PER SQUARE FOOT. IS THAT JUST THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING? BECAUSE YOU NOTICE YOU HAVE TURNED LENGTH CONSTRUCTION BEING $144 PER DAY, AND MY CONCERN COMES THAT HOW LONG VIRGINIA. THEY'RE BLOCKING THE ROAD ALL THE WAY FROM LAKE FOREST PAST HARDEN. AND THAT'S MORE THAN 144 BUCKS. YEAH THAT THAT THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION, UM, TALKING TO THE STAFF MEMBERS IN FORT WORTH AND AUSTIN. UM IT TOOK A COUPLE OF ROUNDS OF QUESTIONING TO GET TO THE RIGHT ANSWER ON THAT. UM WE BELIEVE AT THE END OF THE DAY THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE AREA OF THE CLOSURE, NOT JUST THE AREA OF THE WORK. UM BUT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT IN A FEW MINUTES. WE'RE HOPING TO ACTUALLY SIMPLIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT JUST BECAUSE THERE THERE COULD BE TOO MUCH QUESTION. THERE SOMETIMES APOLOGIZE FOR GETTING AHEAD OF YOU, THEN. UM SO, UM, LET ME START WITH FOR THE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE DOING THINGS RIGHT IF THEY WANT TO GET OUT THERE CLOSE A LANE DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY SO THEY CAN POUR CONCRETE NEXT TO IT. WE DON'T WANT TO CHARGE THEM A FEE IF THEY CAN KEEP THE WORK TO THAT 9 A.M. TO 4 P.M. GET THE LANE OPENED BACK UP. WE DON'T WANT TO CHARGE THEM A FEE. WE WANT TO LET THEM DO THAT. UM, IF THEY CAN PUT TEMPORARY PAVEMENT DOWN THAT MAINTAINS THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE. WE DON'T WANT TO CHARGE THEM A FEE FOR THAT. UM BUT IF THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT NEEDS A LANE CLOSURE UM, WE'RE RECOMMENDING KIND OF BETWEEN WHAT AUSTIN AND FORT WORTH WE'RE DOING AND LOOKING AT THAT TYPICAL RIGHT TURN LANE CONSTRUCTIONS, THE MOST TYPICAL THING THAT WE SEE. UM LOOKING AT A $300 PER DAY PER LANE CLOSED E AGAIN, THAT'S SIMPLIFYING JUST TO ARGUE, PLACED. ARE YOU CLOSING THE LANE OR NOT NOT LOOKING AT SQUARE FOOTAGE OF CONSTRUCTION OF CLOSURE AREA JUST ARE YOU CLOSING THE LANE OR NOT? UM AS WELL AS IF YOU'RE DOING A FULL ROAD CLOSURE $100 PER DAY PER MILE OF THE DETOUR, AND I'LL GET A LITTLE MORE HAVE A COUPLE EXAMPLES. TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT WHY WHY WE'RE THINKING SOME OF THIS HOW IT CAN KIND OF, UM UM. IT BECOMES A LITTLE MORE OF A. IT'S GOING TO MAKE THEM STOP AND THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING A LITTLE BIT. UM. THOSE FEES JUST PAYING PER DAY. MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE A BIG DISTANCE SCENTED SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS AN UPFRONT DEPOSIT NEGOTIATION BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND STAFF. LET'S SAY IT'S GOING TO TAKE 60 DAYS TO DO THIS ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION. UM PAY A DEPOSIT UPFRONT, PROPOSING A 50% OF WHATEVER THAT CALCULATED FEE WOULD BE. AND IF YOU MEET THAT DEADLINE I'LL GIVE YOU THAT MONEY BACK. INCENTIVE TENDS TO WORK A LITTLE BETTER THAN DISINCENTIVE IS WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.OTHERWISE IF YOU CAN'T FINISH THE WORK WITHIN THE AGREED DURATION, THE REMAINING 50% IS DUE AND THE DAILY CHARGES BEGIN TO ACCRUE AFTER THAT. UM AND WE ARE PROPOSING A ESCALATION WITH THAT AS WELL. THAT IF IT GOES BEYOND 30 DAYS HE ESCALATES 25% EVERY 30 DAYS CONTINUES TO ESCALATE UNTIL UNTIL THE WORK WOULD BE DONE. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO DO. THIS WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 90, WHICH IS STREETS AND SIDEWALKS OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. THAT'S WHERE , AMONG OTHER THINGS, FRANCHISE UTILITIES ARE IN THERE. THE GENERAL USE OF THE RIGHT AWAY.
BE LOOKING TO ADD THAT IN THERE UM ALL ALL LANE AND ROAD CLOSURES SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY THE DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING BEING CLEAR THAT THERE IS NO OBLIGATION. TO CLOSE A ROADWAY.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE SOMETIMES RIGHT NOW IS SOMEONE WANTS TO GO OUT THERE AND DO THAT WORK AND WE WANT TO SAY NO. WHERE DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SAY? NO AND, SURPRISINGLY, THAT'S THAT'S A HARD ONE. DEFINED IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCES. UM. WITHIN STAFF WERE GONNA PULL TOGETHER A I AM COMMITTEE WITHIN ALL THE RELEVANT ENGINEERING. GROUPS DEVELOPMENT CAPITAL PROJECTS, TRAFFIC AS WELL AS PUBLIC WORKS SO WE CAN COORDINATE WITH OTHER WORK THAT MIGHT BE GOING ON IN THE SAME AREA TRYING TO TIME THESE THINGS. UM SO WE'RE NOT HAVING COMPETING WORK IN THE SAME AREA. UM THE REFUNDS AND OUR SCHEDULES, AND I'LL TOUCH ON
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THIS IN THE EXAMPLES A LITTLE BIT AGAIN. SOMETIMES THERE'S GOING TO BE THERE'S JUST THINGS THAT COME UP THINGS THAT CAN'T BE CONTROLLED, WHETHER WHATEVER WHERE IT MAKES SENSE TO MAYBE EXTEND A SCHEDULE A LITTLE BIT. BE SURE, THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY TO DO THAT. UM BUT AS WELL AS TIME THIS BACK TO WHATEVER PERMITS. THIS IS RELATED TO AND THIS WAS KIND OF WHAT FINALLY WORKED ON THAT VIRGINIA MALLARD LAKES THING. WE FINALLY TOLD THAT DEVELOPER YOU NEED TO GET THIS DONE OR WE'RE GONNA PULL YOUR APARTMENTS. UM BEING SURE THAT'S ENSHRINED IN THIS ORDINANCE THAT WE CAN BE TIED BACK TO THE OTHER WORK THAT MIGHT BE HAPPENING. SO WE TALKED ABOUT MALLARD LAKES FOR OUR EXCUSE ME. I'M VIRGINIA PARKWAY AT MALLARD LEGS IS ONE OF THOSE EXAMPLES. UM, THEY HAD ONE LANE OF THE THREE LANE EASTBOUND DIRECTION CLOSED FOR THE BETTER PART OF SIX MONTHS. UM THIS WAS A LITTLE BIT OF. THERE THERE. THERE WERE MULTIPLE ISSUES THAT PILED UP TO HAVE THIS ONE HAPPENED. WHAT HAPPENED? THEIR INITIAL PLAN WAS TO JUST BUILD A TURN. LANE AND ONLY CLOSED THE ROAD DURING THE OFF PEAK PERIOD. THE CONTRACTOR GOT SLOPPY. THEY GOT OUT THERE AND MESSED UP. PAVEMENT WITHIN ONE OF THE THROUGH LANES. AND IT WAS, IT WAS DAMAGED FAR ENOUGH THAT IT HAD TO BE CLOSED UNTIL IT COULD BE REPAIRED. UM AND THEN THEY RAN INTO SOME DELAYS WITH A T AND T AS WELL. AND THEN WHILE WHILE ALL THAT WAS HAPPENING, THE ORIGINAL CONTRACTOR ACTUALLY LEFT JOB. UM. SO WHAT I HAVE UP HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THIS FEE COULD THEORETICALLY HAVE BEEN IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS. UM THEY COULD HAVE THEORETICALLY REPAIRED THE DAMAGE PAYMENT IN 30 DAYS, BUT THEY ENDED UP TAKING 180. UM POTENTIALLY A $76,000 FEE THAT IF THEY JUST OPENED THAT BACK UP IN A MUTUALLY AGREED 30 DAYS, THE $4500 DEPOSIT WOULD HAVE ASKED THEM TO PAY THAT WE HAVE REFUNDED THAT TO THEM AND WE ALL COULD HAVE GONE ON WITHOUT THAT HEADACHE FOR SIX MONTHS. MAY I ASK? YES SIR. DEPOSIT COMING FROM THE CONTRACTOR OR THE OWNER? I WOULD PREFER TO PUT THE ONUS ON THE OWNER TO GET HIS CONTRACTOR TO COMPLY RATHER THAN PUT IT ON THE CITY STAFF. UM, COMMENT. THANK YOU. I'M NOT SURE WE'VE PUT WE FLUSHED OUT ALL THE DETAILS YET ON THAT, BUT THAT'S IT WOULD TAKE THAT COMMENT.EITHER PERMIT HOLDER, WOULDN'T IT PROBABLY? THE OTHER EXAMPLE JUST AS THE COUNTY ROAD 317 AGAIN OUT BY THE ROCK CRUSHER. THIS ONE. IT WAS A RELATIVELY SHORT WORK ZONE. BUT DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, ESPECIALLY TRAFFIC COMING FROM PRINCETON, THERE WAS MAYBE TRYING TO GET TO FAIRVIEW SOCCER PARK DOWN THERE. THEY HAD A TWO MILE DETOUR TO GET AROUND THAT CONSTRUCTION ZONE. UM SO EVEN THOUGH THE CONSTRUCTION ZONE ITSELF WAS PRETTY SMALL, THAT DETOUR KIND OF MAKES A BIG, BIG IMPACT. ON THAT, UM. YOU KNOW, A YOU KNOW, WOULD HAVE BEEN ROUGHLY $60,000 FEE FOR THE TWO OR SO MONTHS. THEY'VE BEEN CLOSED. UM PROBABLY COULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETED IN ABOUT 45 DAYS. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE $22,000 DEPOSIT. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN INCENTIVE TO GET IT DONE ON TIME , AND WE'LL REFUND THE $22,000 IF YOU'LL IF YOU GET IT DONE, I DIE. SO AGAIN, IT'S THAT INCENTIVE THERE THAT YOU KNOW. IS REALLY GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. WE THINK WITH A LOT OF DEVELOPERS CONTRACTORS TO TRY TO GET THAT DONE. GET THAT MONEY BACK. UM THIS IS AN EXAMPLE. THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF RAIN OCTOBER NOVEMBER. 45 DAY SCHEDULE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SUBJECT TO A LITTLE BIT OF RENEGOTIATION. THAT'S NOT ANY DIFFERENT THAN WE DO WITH CAPITAL PROJECTS. CONTRACTS NOW OR LIQUIDATED DAMAGES AND STUFF.
DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE NEGOTIATED AT THE END, SO YOU KNOW, AND ONE OF THE OUTCOMES ON THIS, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE MADE. MAYBE IF RPM X DIDN'T WANT TO. I DIDN'T WANT TO. PAY THAT MAYBE THEY WOULD HAVE CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TRYING TO GET SOME TEMPORARY PAVEMENT OUT THERE TO TRY TO MAINTAIN TRAFFIC OR SOMETHING. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE SUMMARY OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT. UM HAPPY TO TAKE ANY FEEDBACK. Y'ALL MAY HAVE THIS AFTERNOON.
OTHERWISE WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING TO PULL TOGETHER THE DETAILS ON THIS AND BRING AN ORDINANCE BACK FOR ADOPTION IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE MET BEFORE WE DO. I JUST WANTED TO IF YOU COULD CLARIFY, THIS IS ONLY PERTAINING TO PRIVATE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GETTING PERMITS TO CLOSE PUBLIC LANES. THESE ARE NOT THIS IS
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NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR OWN PROJECT. THAT IS THE THAT'S THE INTENT RIGHT NOW. UM NOT TO SAY IT COULD BE APPLIED TO ANY CONTRACTOR, BUT THE INTENT RIGHT NOW IS FOCUSING ON THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. WE HAVE OTHER MECHANISMS WITHIN OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS CONTRACTS THAT WE TRY TO USE FOR THAT PURPOSE. IF I MAY? YES, SIR. SAY SOMETHING OUT OF CHARACTER, BUT I CERTAINLY WANT US TO BE DEVELOPMENT FRIENDLY, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MULTI FAMILY, UM AND I COULD SEE GIVING THEM 30 DAYS OF LANE CLOSURE TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT BUT INCLUDING 100% DEPOSIT AND A FINE OF AT LEAST $500 A DAY TO MAKE IT AN IMPRESSION ON THEM. TO DO THEIR SCHEDULING CORRECTLY. I AM CERTAINLY NOT SYMPATHETIC TO 18 AND T CAUSING VIRGINIA PARKWAY TO BE CLOSED FOR AS LONG AS IT WAS, AND I THINK HAD THAT BEEN SCHEDULED CORRECTLY AND HAD THEY HAD THE INCENTIVE WITH 100% DEPOSIT. FOR THE SIX MONTHS OF CLOSURE THAT THEY HAD THAT THEY WOULD HAVE SCHEDULED IT ACCORDINGLY AND HAD IT DONE APPROPRIATELY. SO I DO THINK THERE'S AN AVENUE WHERE WE COULD GIVE THEM A SPECIFIC PERIOD OF TIME BUT STILL REQUIRE THE DEPOSIT. AND THEN START IMPOSING THAT FINE PER DAY IMMEDIATELY ONCE THAT PERIOD HAS EXPIRED.THAT IS JUST A THOUGHT. THANK THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOOD WORK. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THIS.
YOU KNOW, MY DISTRICTS ARE GOOD MILE AND A HALF TWO MILES FROM THE VIRGINIA MALLARD LAKES AND I WAS HEARING FROM PEOPLE. UM I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE IF IT'S IF IT'S PUNITIVE ENOUGH THAT YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO EXACT THE CHANGE WE NEED. THAT'S GREAT. THE ONLY DELINEATION THAT I MIGHT HUMBLY SUGGEST YOU INCORPORATE NOW AND I WILL TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER ON THIS BECAUSE IT'S BECAUSE YOU ARE THE PROS IS THERE'S A MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN VIRGINIA PARKWAY AND COUCH DRIVE. I LIKE COUCH DRIVE, BUT NOBODY LIVES ON CAPS DRIVE RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THIS REALLY GOT IN THE IN THE WAY OF PARENTS AND COMMUTERS AND PEOPLE DOING STUFF AND IT WAS A REAL NUISANCE. AND SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE DOING BUSINESS ON OUR MAJOR ARTERIALS THAT NEEDS TO GET THEIR ATTENTION SO AND IF THEY'RE THEY FEEL LIKE THEY ARE UNFORTUNATE ENOUGH THAT THEY WISH THEY DIDN'T HAVE PROPERTY ON THAT MAJOR ARTERIAL AT THE TIME THAN YOU KNOW. HEY, I'M SORRY, BUT THE BUT BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED I THINK, BUT TAKE YOUR LEAD ON THIS THING AND WE CAN EVOLVE. IT IS WE NEED TO, BUT, UH, DELINEATING A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MAJOR ARTERIALS AND SOMETHING LIKE CABS. DRIVE TO ME WOULD BE OKAY. OKAY? BACK UP A LITTLE BIT AND ASK A FEW QUESTIONS. SO IN THE CASE OF VIRGINIA, UM WHAT HAS TYPICALLY BEEN THE METHODS THAT YOU ALL HAVE USED TO INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO STAY ON TIME. IS THERE SOME SORT OF A CITATION THAT'S ISSUED ? IF THEY DON'T CLOSE? ARE WE? ARE WE FOLLOWING THESE PROJECTS VERY CLOSELY AND COMMUNICATING WITH THE CONTRACTORS OR WITH THE OWNERS? YES, MA'AM, WE HAVE, UM WE HAVE, UM, UM I'M INSPECTORS WITHIN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. THEY'RE VISITING THESE PROJECTS EVERY DAY, MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY AND A LOT OF CASES. UM IT IT IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO BEGGING AND PLEADING A LOT OF TIME RIGHT NOW. THERE THERE REALLY ISN'T A GOOD MECHANISM. OTHER THAN WHAT I TALKED ABOUT ON ON ON ON THE VIRGINIA PARKWAY EXAMPLE WHERE IT GOT SO FAR THAT WE GOT TO THE POINT OF WE ARE GOING TO PULL YOUR PERMITS. IF YOU DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS OTHERWISE, IT'S BEGGING AND PLEADING FOR COMPLIANCE. DID YOU DO ANY TYPE OF STUDY ON THE NUMBER OF MAN HOURS THAT THE CITY STAFF PUT INTO MONITORING THAT PROJECT OR THE COST TO THE CITY TO MONITOR THEIR WORKMANSHIP? UM NOT NOT. NOT ON THAT ONE. SPECIFICALLY NO , BUT WE DID THINK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GENERICALLY WITH SOME OF THE SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT WE PUT UP. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF BASIS YOU KNOW, FOR, YOU KNOW A HOUR OF TIME EVERY DAY FOR AN INSPECTOR TO BE INSPECTING THE TRAFFIC CONTROL SOMETIME FOR ACTUAL OFFICE STAFF TO BE LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC CONTROL PLANS AND BEING SURE THEY'RE THEY'RE GOOD. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO SETTING THE FEE A LITTLE BIT THERE, BUT IT WASN'T NECESSARILY SPECIFIC TO TWO. THE NUISANCE IF YOU WILL OF A PROJECT LIKE THAT ONE THAT I KNOW COUNCILMAN, INCLUDING YOU GOT A LOT OF PHONE CALLS. WE GOT A LOT OF PHONE CALLS STAFF TOO. SO I THINK
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THAT'S A COST THAT IT IS EASY FOR US TO OVERLOOK, AND THAT'S AN EXPENSIVE CITY SHOULDN'T ENDURE AND YOU KNOW THAT'S PART PART OF THE PROPOSAL FOR A FOR A ESCALATION EVERY 30 DAYS. I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE THOUGHT THAT WENT IN THAT THAT I THINK. WAS IT IS IT IS? IT IS, UM, I MEAN THAT THAT AS AS IT GOES ON LONGER. THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE AND MORE CALLS. SO THERE ARE OTHER CITIES AROUND US WHO ARE DEVELOPING JUST AS RAPIDLY AS WE ARE. ARE YOU HEARING FEEDBACK FROM THE OTHER CITIES THAT THEY'RE FACING THE SAME ISSUES AND WHAT ARE WHAT HAVE THEY PUT IN PLACE TO? I WILL SAY THAT ONE OF THEM WAS VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT WE'RE DOING, BECAUSE THEY WERE. THEY'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THE SAME THING LATELY. SO 11 OF OUR CLOSEST PEERS I WAS CURIOUS HOW WE WERE GOING TO APPROACH THIS BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT IT, TOO. BUT THEY DO HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS. I THINK MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT MCKINNEY IS GOING TO STAND OUT AS THE ONE THAT SORT OF OVER TAXES OVER. ANALYZES ARE DEVELOPERS SO I JUST WANT US TO BE CAREFUL AS WE PROCEED. BUT BUT SOMETHING NEEDS TO HAPPEN. CLEARLY IT'S SUCH A HUGE, UM, INCONVENIENCE TO OUR CITIZENS. SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN HERE. THAT'S REASONABLE.YES, MA'AM. I WOULD. I WOULD JUST SAY THAT. MET, UM WELL, FIRST TO PATRICK'S COMMENT. IS THERE MERIT TO THAT? DO YOU THINK EXCITE CERTAINLY IS CORRECT, RIGHT? A MAJOR ARTERIAL HAS AN IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY. MORE SO THAN A BACK ROAD. UM THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME WE DEBATED OUT A LITTLE BIT INTERNALLY. I HAVE TO GO BACK. LOOK AT MY NOTES TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHY WE ENDED UP WHERE WE DO BUT DEFINITELY SOMETHING. WE'LL TALK A LITTLE MORE. ABOUT BEFORE BRINGING SOMETHING FORWARD. IN THE CASE OF VIRGINIA, MR MAYOR THAT WAS ONE OF THREE LANES. THERE WERE STILL TWO LANES OPEN, BUT IT'S YOU KNOW, IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION OF PUBLIC GOODS THAT THE PUBLIC PAID FOR. WHEN YOU GO OVER AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, AND ON A SMALLER ROAD, YOU KNOW YOU MIGHT BE CUTTING OFF HALF THE ROAD THE ENTIRE ROAD BY ONE LANE AND IF YOU CUT THE WHOLE ROAD OFF IN THE CASE OF THE CLOSURE OFF OF 317, IS IT THAT WAS THE ENTIRE ROAD WAS CLOSED AND AGAIN ROAD CLOSURES FOR DEVELOPMENT. YOU CAN LIVE WITH IT FOR A WHILE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO BALANCES FOR ME I TRUST WITH YOU GUYS HAVE COME UP WITH AND I AND I AGREE THAT THE INCENTIVE AS A DEVELOPER MYSELF, BUILDER. IF I GOTTA PUT UP MONEY, IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN LIKE PUTTING UP A BOND. YOU KNOW IF I PUT UP MONEY WITH THE CITY AS A DEPOSIT, BUT I KNOW THAT I CAN GET IT BACK THEN I THINK THAT THAT SPEAKS TO DR FELD SAYS CONCERNED WHICH I AGREE WITH. YOU KNOW WHAT, NOT. WE'RE NOT CHARGING ANYONE MORE.
THEY JUST HAVE A PENALTY. IF THEY DON'T DO IT, THEY WHAT THEY SHOULD DO AT THE SAME TIME, YOU GUYS HAVE TO HAVE COMPLETE DISCRETION BECAUSE IF THERE IS AN AT AND T OR THEY RUN INTO ATMOSPHERE, GAS OR MORE. WHATEVER WHERE IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE. I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE THAT FALLS WHERE MY CONTROL AND I CAN BE AS FRUSTRATED AND YELL AND CALL 500 TIMES. IT DOESN'T MEAN IT GETS DONE ON MY TIMELINE . IT GETS ON THEIR TIMELINE, SO YOU GUYS HAVE TO HAVE THE DISCRETION TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND SAME WITH RAIN DATE. RAIN DELAYS ALL THAT SO ME? I THINK THE WAY YOU PROPOSED IT AND YOU KNOW WE COME TO AGREEMENT WITH THE PROJECTS YOU TAKE. I PUT UP THE MONEY IF I COMPLETED WITHIN THAT TIME, I'VE DONE MY JOB. I GET MY MONEY BACK. IF I RUN INTO THINGS OUT OF MY CONTROL, I COULD PLEAD MY CASE. I TRUST YOU GUYS WILL WEIGH IN ON THAT FAIRLY AND IF THERE IS AN EXTENSION TO BE GRANTED, THERE ISN'T IF THERE ISN'T I PAY. I THINK THAT I THINK THAT ADDRESSES ALL THE CONCERNS UP HERE MYSELF ONCE THE PRICE PER DAY TO MAKE IT PAINFUL ENOUGH, GEORGE. I THINK MATT MATT'S COMMENT THAT THE TO INCENTIVIZE IS MORE EFFECTIVE. I KNOW THAT IF I GOT TO PUT UP IF I GOTTA PUT UP 28 GRAND BUT IF I FINISH THE JOB IN THE 45 DAYS, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO FINISH IT OR WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS, UM I'M MOTIVATED. UH, AND EVERY LISTEN. EVERY CONTRACTOR WERE EVERYONE'S MOTIVATED GET THE JOB DONE FOR EVERY EVERY EXTRA DAY. IT COSTS US MONEY FOR EVERY CONTRACTOR OUT THERE THAT COST SOME MONEY YOUR OVERHEAD. IF I CAN DO A JOB IN 30 DAYS. VERSUS 60 DAYS, I HAVE HALF THE OVERHEAD HALF OF EVERYTHING YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN THE ACTUAL MATERIALS TO THE PROJECT, SO I'M EVERYONE IS GENERALLY MOTIVATED ANYWAY. SO I THINK THE INCENTIVE AS YOU PUT IT IS THE RIGHT IS THE RIGHT THING AND THE PENALTY HECK, SOME OF THOSE WHAT WAS THE FINE PER DAY? WE'RE WHEREAS WE'RE SHOWING 300 PER LANE PER DAY, DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING. I MEAN, IT'S GONNA DEPEND LARGELY ON THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT TO YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT THE LAND CLOSURE ON VIRGINIA
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PARKWAY AT MALLARD LAKES THAT WAS A SMALL PAD SITE DEVELOPER DOING TO TOTAL 10,000 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL BUILDINGS AND THAT TIM MEANS SOMETHING MORE THAN IT MEANS SOMETHING MORE THAN A THEN THEN, THEN HIGHLAND LAKES OR OR SOMETHING. I THINK WHAT YOU'VE COME UP WITH IS THE RIGHT.BALANCE MYSELF. OBVIOUSLY AND THERE'S A FINE LINE TO BE WALKED BETWEEN. UM THERE'S A FINE LINE TO BE WALKED. TOWARDS, UM. TOWARDS BEING PUNITIVE. I THINK ALAN'S PROBABLY GIVE ME DIRTY LOOKS. IF WE TALK ABOUT BEING PUNITIVE TOO MUCH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, BUT YEAH. MHM YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE TRYING TO STRIKE A VERY FINE LINE THERE, KNOWING THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON THIS. HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE BEFORE YOU COULD HAVE THIS IN PLACE BEFORE THE NEXT CONSTRUCTION PROJECT GOES AWRY. I MEAN, WE WERE OUR HOPE IS TO BRING AN ORDINANCE BACK SOME SOMETIME IN JANUARY BECAUSE THE HOLIDAYS ARE PROBABLY THE SECOND MEETING AT THE EARLIEST. UM SIT DOWN WITH ALLEN. MARK BE SURE WE'RE GETTING EVERYTHING RIGHT FOR THE ORDINANCE ITSELF. UM, YOU'RE YOU'RE GOING TO RUN INTO ISSUES. ANYBODY THAT ALREADY HAS A PERMIT, ISSUED OR RUN INTO VESTING RIGHTS. PROBABLY THAT WE CAN'T GO BACK RETROACTIVELY, UM AND SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, YES.
WE'VE ALREADY ISSUED YOU A PERMIT TO DO THIS WORK, BUT NOW WE WANT NOW WE WANT TO CHARGE YOU THIS FEE. PROBABLY CAN'T DO THAT. BUT, UM AND ANYTHING GOING FORWARD FROM HERE WILL BE ABLE TO APPLY IT TO ONCE ADOPTED. IT'S FASTER THAN I THOUGHT YOU WOULD SAY. AND I LIKE YOUR TIMETABLE. THANK YOU. POINT OF CLARIFICATION. IF YOU DON'T MIND, SO IS THE FEE IS ONLY IF THEY ARE WORKING DURING PEAK HOURS. 9 TO 4. IF THERE ARE THERE IF THEY'RE WORKING OUTSIDE 94 IF THEY'RE WORKING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY BETWEEN NINE AND FOUR. HAVE AT IT. YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR OPEN THAT LANE BACK ON INTUITIVE DOESN'T IT SEEMS A LITTLE COUNTERINTUITIVE. I GUESS THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE THE SAME. I THINK CASH DURING THE PEAK IS WHEN WE WANT UH, RATHER NOT HAVE WORK BEING DONE, BUT OF COURSE, I KNOW THAT TRYING TO GET WORK DONE. NIGHT SHIFT IS PRETTY TOUGH. YEAH I MEAN, YEAH, I MEAN , THERE THERE. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OVERNIGHT, THERE'S HARDER TO GET CONTRACT THERE. THERE'S POTENTIAL SAFETY ISSUES AS WELL. WE JUST SEE ON STREETS WITHIN MCKINNEY GRANTED. THREE EIGHTIES BUSY ALL THE TIME, AND I KNOW TEXT THOUGHTS BEEN DOING SOME WORK OUT BY TUCKER HILL THIS WEEK. IT'S GOT 380 PRETTY JAMMED UP, BUT YOU KNOW, ON ON MOST MCKINNEY STREETS, YOUR HEAVIEST TRAFFIC AS 7 TO 9 A.M. AND 4 TO 7 P.M. OR SO YOU KNOW, SO GETTING THEM IF THEY HAVE TO CLOSE THE LANE, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT TO YOU FOR FREE. AS LONG AS YOU DO IT BETWEEN NINE AM AND FOUR PM BUT YOU GO EARLY. YOU GO LATE. YOU GO ALL DAY. THEN THEN WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[Update on East McKinney Projects]
THANKS MAN. THANK YOU, MA'AM. ITEM 231047 UPDATE ON EAST MCKINNEY PROJECTS, OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR MAYOR PRO TEM CITY COUNCIL HAPPY HOLIDAYS AND HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY TO CLOSE OUT THE YEAR WITH SOME UPDATES ON THINGS HAPPENING IN EAST MCKINNEY. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BUT IT'S BEEN A WHILE IT'S BEEN SINCE LAST DECEMBER. ACTUALLY THERE ARE SEVERAL CATEGORIES OF THINGS HAPPENING IN EAST MCKINNEY FROM INFRASTRUCTURE TO PARKS.NEIGHBORHOODS REDEVELOPMENT, EVEN ARTS AND CULTURE. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THESE VERY QUICKLY TODAY AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, AND THERE'S ALWAYS MORE INFORMATION ON ALL OF THESE ON OUR WEBSITE. LET'S START WITH STREETS. STREETS IS THE AREA WHERE EVERYONE IS FRUSTRATED WHEN IT'S HAPPENING, AND EVERYONE CELEBRATES WHEN IT'S DONE, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING WITH STREETS IN EAST MCKINNEY, THE MOBILITY STREETS, TRAFFIC STUDY IS COMPLETE, AND STAFF IS WORKING AND PURSUING FUNDING FOR SOME OF THAT IMPLEMENTATION. WE SUBMITTED A GRANT FUNDING LAST YEAR THAT WE DID NOT RECEIVE, BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO PURSUE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. AND WE'RE ALSO BEGINNING IN ALIGNMENT STUDY FOR THE EXTENSION OF VIRGINIA AVENUE. STATE HIGHWAY FIVE IS NOT A CITY OF MCKINNEY LED PROJECT BUT CERTAINLY HAS AN IMPACT ON US AND TEXT CONTINUES TO WORK ON THIS. INITIATIVE MOST RECENTLY THEY HAVE SPLIT THE CORRIDOR INTO SORT OF TWO DIFFERENT PHASES. UM, AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT THOSE THOSE WILL BE DIFFERENT BID DATES IN 2025 AND 2026 RIGHT OF WAY AND EASEMENTS ACQUISITION IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY FOR THIS WORK THERE, FOLDING IN THE LOWER FIVE CLASSES, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE LATER AND UTILITY RELOCATIONS ARE GOING TO START IN EARLY 2024. AROUND THE AREA OF CITY HALL. WE EXPECT TO SEE ROADWORK BEGIN THERE IN EARLY 2024, AND THIS INCLUDES VIRGINIA
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STREET, THROCKMORTON AND NOTABLY A ROUNDABOUT AT THE CORNER OF VIRGINIA AND THROCKMORTON. WE ARE WORKING REALLY, REALLY HARD TO COMPLETE THE WORK THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDERWAY AT EAST LOUISIANA AND GREEN AND ANDREWS. THIS IS ONE THAT HAS FALLEN BEHIND SCHEDULE. IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR US. IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR EVERYONE. WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE RESS LITTLE IMPACT AS POSSIBLE, GIVEN THE CONDITIONS AND WE ARE ANTICIPATING A COMPLETION DATE ON BOTH OF THESE OF SPRING AND SPRING OF 2024. LET'S MOVE ON TO PARKS AND RECREATION. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OLD SETTLERS BEFORE AND WE SAID THE MASTER PLAN IS COMPLETE. THE MASTER PLAN IS COMPLETE PARK IMPROVEMENTS ARE UNDER DESIGN, AND THAT WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT UNDER A YEAR WILDLY. PARK WHICH WAS UNDERGOING A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL REMEDIATION, AND WE HAVE PARK IMPROVEMENTS, READY TO BID ON THAT. AND THEN THE LOWER FIVE PLAZA. WE ARE WORKING WITH TEXT DOT AND COG AND RECENTLY ENGAGED WITH A KIND OF A CONSULTANT. TO GET SOME PRELIMINARY BRIDGE DESIGN DONE, AND THERE WAS A MUCH MORE COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATION GIVEN TO COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 5TH ON THAT ONE. IF ANYONE WANTS TO LOOK BACK AT THAT CAME UNDER WHAT? LEE PARK. FORGIVE ME FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT, UM REMEMBER TALKS ABOUT. WE USED TO HAVE A UNPERMITTED DUMP OUT THERE AND WE NEED TO FILL A BUNCH OF SOIL BUNCH OF TRUCKS WITH SOIL. ARE WE THERE YET? ARE WE STILL WAITING ON SOME KIND OF PERMISSION BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PART OF IT? YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE. SO YOU HAVE SUCH A GREAT QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF THAT. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE HAVE RAISE YOUR HAND. IF ANYONE CAN ANSWER THAT. RYAN MULLINS WILL COME UP AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT QUESTION. GREAT QUESTION. I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE GREEN LIGHT FOR THAT, AND THAT'S STARTING TO GET IN THE WAY. SO THAT'S BEING PREPARED FOR T. C Q. IS THE REMEDIATION THAT'S SPOKEN ABOUT IN THE SLIDE HERE? OKAY SO WE'RE CLOSE ON GETTING THOSE DUMP TRUCKS. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? CLOSE TO GETTING IT? IT REMEDIATED WITH THE WITH THE FILLING OF THE CAP THAT'S GOING TO BE PUT ON THERE. SO THE DUMP TRUCKS HAVE ALREADY DUMPED DIRT.
NO NO, NO, NO, NO. WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO GETTING THAT AT THAT POINT WHERE WE START THAT, OKAY? THAT WILL BE THE FIRST THING DONE. I THINK YOUR PREDECESSOR MAY HAVE OVER PROMISED UNDER DELIVERED ON THAT. DOES THAT ALL THE TIME. AH PLEASE CALL HIM FIND THAT GUY. THANK YOU.
TEASING CALL OUR NEXT WITNESS. THANK YOU, RYAN AND THE REDEVELOPMENT SIDE TOPS IS FINISHING UP AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THEY ARE OPEN IN 2024 AND MCKINNEY CITY HALL PROGRESSES AS WELL AND SCHEDULE AND WITH A CONTINUED ANTICIPATED OPENING DATE OF 2025. ON THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT SIDE, YOU PROBABLY HAVE SEEN THE CONSTRUCTION UNDERWAY FOR THE COLUMBUS REALTY PROJECT. THAT'S 312 APARTMENTS FOR TOWN HOMES AND 12 LIVE WORK UNITS, THE GARAGES UP AND NOW THEY'RE FRAMING THE OUTSIDE. SO YOU'RE SEEING THAT COME TOGETHER AS WELL. ARTS CULTURAL FESTIVAL EVENTS ON THE CULTURE SIDE ON THE CITY STARTED A HISTORIC RESOURCES SURVEY THIS YEAR, AND IT DOESN'T JUST LOOK AT THE HISTORIC DISTRICT PER SE. IT ACTUALLY LOOKS AT A LOT OF AREAS OF BOTH EAST AND WEST. MCKINNEY AND THE FIELDWORK IS WRAPPING UP AND WE'VE BEEN AT SEVERAL EVENTS SPECIFICALLY TO REACH OUT TO EAST SIDE RESIDENTS TO INCOMPLETE THAT HISTORIC SURVEY.
WE HOPE TO SEE THE DRAFT REPORT AS SOON AS IT'S COMPLETE. AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SIDE. I'LL START WITH HOUSING NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVATION STUDY WAS SORT OF ADAPTED BY COUNSEL AND WE ARE WORKING ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE MAJOR RECOMMENDATIONS, AND I'M GOING TO CLOSE OUT TODAY BY TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS AND WAY BACK WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THESE PROJECTS WE STARTED WITH THE EAST MCKINNEY PROJECT OUTREACH AND COMMUNICATION. ACRONYM IMPACT EFFORTS TO KIND OF PULL EVERYTHING TOGETHER TO PROVIDE ENGAGEMENT AND COMMUNICATION AS THAT MISSION SORT OF WAS FULFILLED. WE MOVED INTO WHAT WE CALLED A TRANSITIONAL ADVISORY TEAM. WE TOOK SOME OF THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH US TO CONNECT TO THE EAST SIDE, AND WE LOOK FOR NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS TO HELP US BUILD A FRAMEWORK OF WHAT CAN HAPPEN NEXT. HOW CAN WE BUILD EMPOWERMENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS? WE'VE HAD AN EXCEPTIONAL GROUP OF FOLKS HELPING US OVER THE LAST YEAR? WORK ON THAT FRAMEWORK. WE SECURED FUNDS IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR THAT COULD PROVIDE SMALL GRANTS TO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. AND WE WANT WHAT WE WANT OUR GROUPS OF FOLKS THAT ARE ORGANIZED AND EMPOWERED AND CAN HAVE THE SAME SORT OF COMMUNICATION AND IMPACT IS AN H O A. EVEN WHEN YOU'RE NOT IN AN H O A AREA OF OUR WORK WITH THE TRANSITIONAL TEAM IS SORT OF COMING TO A CLOSE AND WE ANTICIPATE THEIR PURPOSE AND MISSION MORPHING AGAIN IN EARLY NEXT YEAR, WILL BE CONTINUING TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM, TOO. MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES THEY NEED. IT WAS REALLY GREAT TO SEE. THIS YEAR THEY COORDINATED A NEIGHBORHOOD EVENT ON THEIR OWN IN EAST MCKINNEY WAS A FALL FESTIVAL AND THEY'RE EVEN DOING SOME HOLIDAY THINGS WITHIN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD TO BUILD INTEREST AND EXCITEMENT ABOUT BEING PART OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN
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2024. WE HAVE SOME NEW STAFF ON OUR END. I'M IN BOTH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT THAT ARE GOING TO BE GREAT ASSETS TO BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE A LOT OF DETAILS ON OUR WEBSITE, BUT I STAND AND ALL OF THE REALLY SMART PEOPLE BEHIND ME. STAND READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, KENT. 31048 DISCUSS CITY REFUSE RATES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MAYOR,
[Discuss City Refuse Rates]
MEMBERS OF COUNCIL STEVE HILTON ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. I HAVE A VERY SHORT PRESENTATION ON OUR SOLID WASTE RATES WITH OUR INCUMBENT CARRIERS. THIS IS FOR WASTE CONNECTIONS FOR THE PERIOD OF JANUARY 1 2024 THROUGH OCTOBER 1 2024 WHEN OUR NEW CONTRACT WITH FRONTIER WASTE SOLUTIONS WILL BEGIN ONLY ABOUT FOUR SLIDES FOR YOU TODAY. VERY FAST AGENDA. VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW. DISCUSSION OF THE RATES AND VERY SPECIFICALLY, THE CONVERSATION TODAY WILL CENTER AROUND THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX INCREASE THAT CONTRACTUALLY THE CITY IS OBLIGATED TO PAY TO WASTE CONNECTIONS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL CONCURS WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO PASS THAT ALONG, AS WE HAVE DONE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. SO VERY BRIEF, UM, KIND OF CURRENT FORM THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH WITH WASTE CONNECTIONS AND ITS PREDECESSOR COMPANIES GOES BACK TO 1996. BUT IN ITS CURRENT FORMAT, THIS AGREEMENT EXECUTED IN 2008 THE AMENDMENTS UP THERE AND REALLY THIS 2021 AMENDMENT FOR THOSE WHO ARE ON THE COUNCIL AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE SIGNED BASICALLY A THREE YEAR REVISED VERSION OF OUR AGREEMENT WITH THEM THAT PUT SOME MORE MONEY PUT SOME MORE DOLLARS IN THEIR POCKET. AND GOT US THROUGH THE LIFE OF THE EXISTING AGREEMENT, WHICH IS SEPTEMBER OF 2024. THERE'S REALLY 22 PRIMARY COMPONENTS TO THAT ONE ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE OF IT, WHICH WAS A 25% INCREASE OVER THE COURSE OF THREE YEARS. 10% 10% 10% THAT IS NOW DONE GOT DONE. LAST YEAR, THERE WAS A DOLLAR SIX ORIGINALLY IN 2021 INCREASE ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE OF IT. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL ALSO AGREED TO WAS FOR EACH OF THE RESPECTIVE YEARS ON JANUARY 1 TO ALLOW THE CITY TO PAY FOR THE C P I INCREASE, ASSUMING THERE WAS ONE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. WHAT WE HAVE DONE EACH OF THOSE PREVIOUS YEARS HAS PASSED THAT, ALONG TO THE NEXT SLIDE WILL SHOW WHY STAFF WILL RECOMMEND DOING THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR, BUT CERTAINLY WOULD STAFF DID NOT WANT TO BE PRESUMPTUOUS ABOUT THAT. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP LEFT CORNER OF THIS SLIDE, OUR CURRENT RATE IN MCKINNEY IS 1790. 1792 MONTH, EVEN WITH THIS RATE INCREASE, WHICH ABOUT MIDWAY THROUGH LOWER PART WOULD BE TAKE US TO A MONTHLY FEE OF 1861 WILL BE THE SECOND LOWEST FROM OUR IMMEDIATE SISTER CITIES. ALLEN IS EXPECTED TO GO BUY ANOTHER DOLLAR LATER THIS YEAR AS WELL. SO WE ARE CERTAINLY AH, WELL IN IF NOT BELOW THE AVERAGE FOR OUR SISTER CITIES. IT IS ABOUT A 69% 69 CENT INCREASE THIS YEAR FOR COMPARATIVE PURPOSES. IT WAS 96 CENTS LAST YEAR AND THE VERY FAR LOWER RIGHT CORNER IS THE POLICY CONSIDERATION FOR TONIGHT. SHOULD THE RATES BE ADJUSTED TO REFLECT THE ANNUAL CPI INCREASE? MEANING PASSED ALONG TO THE RESIDENTS. I DO WANT TO CLARIFY FOR THE COUNCIL. THE CITY HAS ALREADY MADE THE OBLIGATION THAT WE WILL BE PAYING WASTE CONNECTIONS THOSE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS SO THIS WOULD BE THE PASS ALONG STARTING JANUARY 1 TO THE RESIDENTS. AND THEN KIND OF TEEING UP FOR A FUTURE CONVERSATION AROUND THE MARCH TIMEFRAME. I'LL BE BACK BEFORE YOU WITH REALLY A MORE COMPREHENSIVE DISCUSSION AROUND WHAT HAPPENS DURING THE OCTOBER TIMEFRAME. WE HAVE BURNS MCDONALD HELPING US WITH CRAFTING UP SOME OPTIONS FOR THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION REGARDING WHAT THOSE RATES SHOULD BE. CERTAINLY WE HAVE THE BID PRICE RESULTS FROM BOTH FRONTIER AND BALCONES. BULL CONNOR IS BEING THE RECYCLING PROVIDER STARTING OCTOBER 1 2024 , BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT COMPANIES, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON AND HOW THE RIGHT STRUCTURES WILL BE DONE. WE CERTAINLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS THAT AND WE'LL HAVE SOME OPTIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THAT POINT IN TIME, BUT AGAIN FOR TONIGHT, IT'S ONLY FOR THE CPI INCREASE RELATED TO WASTE CONNECTIONS. AND WITH THAT I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS. INSTEAD, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD PASS IT ON. ORDINANCES. YOUR AGENDA AND IT STARTED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S AGENDA. THANK YOU, STEVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATE EVERYBODY. COUNCIL LIAISON UPDATES OR WE COULD WAIT[COUNCIL LIAISON UPDATES regarding various city Boards & Commissions]
UNTIL. TONIGHT'S MEETING. THAT'S RIGHT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MAYOR PRETEND THE SCARF YOU'RE WEARING. YES, SIR. MR MAYOR. THIS IS, UM THE LIGHT THE WORLD GIVING MACHINES SCARF THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME TODAY AT THE GRAND OPENING OF THE GIVING MACHINE THAT IS ON THE SQUARE. THERE ARE ACTUALLY THREE OF THE UNITS THERE. IT'S A PROJECT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SENSE. ALSO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE INTERFAITH COUNCIL OF MCKINNEY. AH WE HAD SPEAKERS[00:40:04]
FROM ALL DIFFERENT FAITHS THERE THIS MORNING, INCLUDING ISLAMIC COMMUNITY, AND IT'S A METHOD BY WHICH YOU CAN DO GIVING TO LOCAL CHARITIES AS WELL AS NATIONAL INTERNATIONAL CHARITY IS, UH, AND IT'S A IDEAL WAY TO TEACH YOUR CHILDREN ABOUT GIVING BACK AT THIS TIME OF YEAR, AND IT'S IN THE HEART OF THE CHRISTMAS SHOPPING DISTRICT AND DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY. IT'S A TRULY WONDERFUL PROJECT. THAT WAS BROUGHT TO US AND HUGE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THE WORLD WHAT MCKINNEY DOES BEST AND THAT IS TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER AND TAKE CARE OF THOSE IN NEED. AND AMERICA CAME OUT AND SPOKE THIS MORNING COUNCILMAN, INCLUDING I WAS THERE AS WELL. IT WAS THE BEST TURNOUT I'VE SEEN FOR ANY EVENT OF ITS KIND AND HOW MUCH SURE THAT MCKINNEY WILL BE A HUGE SUCCESS COMPARED TO SMALLER CITIES SUCH AS DALLAS AND FORT WORTH. COMPETE AGAINST HOUSTON AND SAN ANTONIO. GET OUT THERE AND SHOW THEM WHAT WE'RE GOOD AT. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, MR MAYOR. RIGHT EVERYONE, OKAY? WAITING HAD JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. THE MAYOR PRO TEMP DID SAY THAT THE MACHINES ARE ON THE SQUARE TO BE EXECUTIVE IN FRONT OF LOW YO OUTFITTERS THERE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SQUARE. AND THE LDS CHURCH DID SPONSOR THIS AND THEY'RE EATING 100% OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. SO IF YOU GIVE 25 BUCKS TO HUGS OR IT'S GOING TO BE OKAY OR ONE OF THESE OTHER CHARITIES, ALL $25 GOES TO THAT. ALL THE ADMIN FEES ARE BEING PICKED UP BY THE LDS CHURCH. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR PRO TEM. THERE'S 30 DIFFERENT CHARITIES TO CHOOSE FROM. SO IT'S LIKE ANY OTHER VENDING MACHINE YOU'VE SEEN YOU JUST LOOK AT A CHARITY OR SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO GIVE TO AND YOU SWIPE YOUR CREDIT CARD AND CAN INVEST IN THAT IN THAT CHARITY, THE AMOUNT THAT YOU SO CHOOSE. YOU CAN ALSO PUSH IN THE CODE 777 AND THAT WILL PURCHASE ONE OF EACH OF THE 30. YOU CAN DO THAT AS WELL. UM WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE[EXECUTIVE SESSION]
SESSION. HMM TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551071 CONSULTATIONS WITH ATTORNEY ON ANY WORK SYSTEMS SPECIAL SESSION REGULAR SESSION, JENNA ITEM. REQUIRING CONFIDENTIAL ATTORNEY CLIENT ADVICE NECESSITATED BY THE DELIBERATION OR DISCUSSION OF SAID ITEMS. AMENDMENT OF BOUNDARY AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF PRINCETON INVOLVING EXCHANGE OF APPROXIMATELY 200 ACRES OF LAND, LOCATED THE TERMINUS OF HICKORY HILL LANE AND OAKFIELD DRIVING WITHIN THE THOMAS A ROADS AND DAVID CHERRY SURVEYS WITH 200 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED GENERALLY ON FIVE M. 546 AND WITHIN THE CABIN BALLS AND WD THOMAS SURVEY SECTION 55171 PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION GRACE CENTRAL. TO ADDITION, BLOCK B LOT, A REPLACE CITY OF MCKINNEY 21 04 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY SECTION, 55107 TO DELIBERATIONS ABOUT REAL PROPERTY DOWNTOWN CITY OWNED REDEVELOPMENT 23-38 R F Q MUNICIPAL FACILITIES SECTION 551.74 PERSONNEL MATTERS SECTION 551087 DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MATTERS. CHAPTER 380 DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM IN AGREEMENT WITH RAYTHEON COMPANY AND PROJECT VIBES. AND THERE IS NOT ACTION. I DO NOT BELIEVE ON ANYTHING IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.FIVE OF US NOW. IT'S VERY NEW THAT WE ADJOURNED THE WORK SESSION CIRCUIT. I
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