[Consider/Discuss/Act on an Ordinance Amending Chapter 38, “Elections,” by Deleting Article IV, “Electioneering,” Together with Current Sections 38-70 Through 38-74 in their Entirety and Replacing Said Article IV with a New Article IV, Also Entitled “Electioneering,” Amending Article 5, “Signs,” of Chapter 150 of the Code of Ordinances, “Unified Development Code,” by Deleting Section 501.D.4, “Recovery of Temporary Election of Campaign Signs,” and Replacing Said Section with a New Section 501.D.4 Entitled “Removal of Temporary Signage,” Deleting Section 507.M, “Temporary Election or Campaign Signage In, On, or Over Public Right-of-Way,” and Replacing Said Section with a New Section 507.M Entitled “Wind-Driven Signs,” and by Deleting Section 507.N, “Wind-Driven Signs”]

ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 38 ELECTIONS BY THE LEADING ARTICLE FOUR ELECTIONEERING TOGETHER WITH CURRENT SECTIONS 38 TO 70 THROUGH 38 THROUGH 74 IN THEIR ENTIRETY AND REPLACING SET ARTICLE FORWARD WITH A NEW ARTICLE FIVE FOR EXCUSE ME ALSO ENTITLED ELECTIONEERING, AMENDING ARTICLE FIVE SIGNS OF CHAPTER 150 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE BY THE LEADING SECTION. 501.3 0.4 RECOVERY OF TEMPORARY ELECTION OF CAMPAIGN SIGNS AND REPLACING SAID SECTION WITH SECTION 501 D FOUR ENTITLED REMOVAL OF TEMPORARY SIGN.

SECTION 507 M TEMPORARY ELECTION OR CAMPAIGN SIGNAGE IN ON OR OVER PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY. I'M REPLACING SAID SECTION WITH A NEW SECTION 507 DOT M ENTITLED WIND DRIVEN SIGNS AND BY DELETING SECTION 507 N WHEN DRIVEN SCIENCE. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT. I REALLY DON'T NEED YOU. I JUST NEED YOU TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THE RECORD ABOUT THAT BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION TO PASS IT. I HAD MADE IT A COMMENT AT OUR WORK SESSION, SUGGESTING AN AMENDMENT TO THIS ORDINANCE AND MR HOUSER AND HIS STAFF DIRECTED ME TO A STATUTE WHICH INDICATED THAT IT WOULD BE PREMATURE TO MAKE THAT AMENDMENT AT THIS TIME AND IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO THIS COUNCIL.

THAT WE APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED, UH, AT THE WORK SESSION AS WELL AS, UH, NOTICE UNDER THE PUBLIC NOTICE STATUTES. UH, AS WRITTEN I SECOND THIS GUY YOUR VOTES.

THANK YOU. SHE PASSES. I'M GONNA TAKE SOMETHING OUT OF ORDER HERE . WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER I'M

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit Request for Vehicle Repair, Minor (Take 5 Oil), Located at 8301 Eldorado Parkway, and Accompanying Ordinance]

LOOKING FOR I'M SORRY. SP I AM NOT FINDING THE. SORRY 240002 SP TWO, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ACT ON THE SPECIFIC USE REQUEST FOR VEHICLE REPAIR. MINOR TAKE FIVE OIL LOCATED AT 83 01 ELDORADO PARKWAY AS TAKEN US OUT OF ORDER BECAUSE I BELIEVE THEY HAVE ASKED TO TABLE . UH, YES. SO OUR APPLICANTS ACTUALLY PULLING DOUBLE DUTY TONIGHT AT TWO DIFFERENT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, SO HOPING TO GET THROUGH THE ITEM, UH, WITH MCKINNEY TONIGHT, SO THAT THEY CAN GET OVER TO THE NEXT MEETING. SO THANK YOU. SORRY. I MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS SAID, SO I WANT TO TAKE IT OUT OF ORDER SO THEY CAN GET TO THEIR NEXT WE CARE ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE GOING NEXT. I'M SORRY. THAT WAS MY OUT LOUD VOICE. I MEAN, UM SO WE WILL TAKE THAT OUT OF ORDER.

I'VE CALLED IT. UM JENNIFER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR MAYOR, PULLING MY ITEM HERE. UH, SO AS YOU READ THIS, UH, REQUEST IS FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMITS, UH, FOR AN AUTO REPAIR FACILITY.

TAKE FIVE OIL TO QUICK. UH, QUICK OIL CHANGE FACILITY. UM THE TRACT ITSELF IS SITTING JUST OFF OF EL DORADO AND STONEBRIDGE AT 83 01 ELDORADO PARKWAY. UM THE ZONING ON THE PROPERTY IS C TWO. A LOCAL COMMERCIAL, WHICH DOES REQUIRE CONSIDERATION OF AN SUP FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE

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AUTO REPAIR. TAKE FIVE AUTO HERE SO IN REVIEWING THE REQUEST, UH, I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THE PROPOSED UH, SUP EXHIBIT DOES MEET ALL OF THE TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF THE CITY. UM, HOWEVER, WHEN CONSIDERING SUP REQUESTS, UH, STAFF HAS AN OBLIGATION TO LOOK THROUGH THOSE SSUP CRITERIA. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID NOTE IS THERE ARE THREE OTHER AUTO REPAIR FACILITIES WITHIN A HALF A MILE OF THE PROPOSED SITE, AND I'LL PULL THAT HERE, UM, ALL ALONG EL DORADO PARK. SO WHILE THE PROPOSED PLAN DOES MEET ALL THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, WE DID HAVE SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE, UH, CONCENTRATION OF THOSE TYPES OF USES ALONG THAT STRETCH OF ELDORADO PARKWAY. FOR THAT REASON, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO OFFER A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.

HOWEVER IT WAS CONSIDERED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AT THEIR MEETING, AND THEY RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND A VOTE OF 52 THE APPLICANTS HERE AS WELL, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. QUESTIONS FOR JENNIFER. THE APPLICANT TO COME UP. THANK THE MAYOR FOR LETTING US GO OUT OF TURN. THANK YOU, COUNSEL FOR THE TIME TONIGHT. UH I'M BEN PAGE.

UH I'M HERE, UH, REPRESENTING PEAK DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS, MYSELF AND MY PARTNER, GARRET JOHNSON. I AM AT 3130 TIMBER VIEW ROAD IN DALLAS, TEXAS, 75229. UM SO, YEAH, UH, THIS IS THE OVERALL PLAN. THERE HAS BEEN A HANDFUL OF DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS FOR THE LAST 10, PLUS YEARS THAT HAVE TRIED TO ACTIVATE THIS 18 ACRE SITE, AND SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA HELP BRING IT TO FRUITION. THERE IS A NATIONAL GROCERY STORE CHAIN THAT WANTS TO LAND ON THE CORNER THAT IS BEING WORKED ON RIGHT NOW. THERE IS A NATIONAL FITNESS GROUP THAT IS GOING TO BE GOIALG WORKED ON. AS WELL AS A REALLY POPULAR NATIONAL DRIVE-THROUGH COFFEE CHAIN. UM AND THEN UP HERE, WHERE YOU SEE IN RED IS WHERE THE TAKE FIVE. OIL CHANGE IS SITE PLANNED RIGHT NOW. UM TO THE EAST OF IT. WE HAVE A SUPERSTAR CAR WASH, WHICH IS, UH, SUBMITTED FOR PERMITS. WE EXPECT THOSE BACK THIS FRIDAY. UM THAT TAKE FIVE OIL CHANGE. WE HAVE A NATIONAL UH, FAST FOOD, CHICKEN AND BISCUIT CONCEPT THAT'S VERY POPULAR OUT OF THE SOUTHEAST THAT IS WANTING THE LAND RIGHT THERE. AND THEN WE HAVE ONE PAD LEFT THAT WE'RE KIND OF FIGURING OUT WHAT TO DO WITH RIGHT NOW. UM SO, YEAH, WE WERE. WE WERE APPROVED LAST MONTH AT OUR PNZ RECOMMENDED APPROVAL LAST MONTH. UH, ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT JENNIFER MENTIONED FROM STAFF WAS THAT THERE ARE A FEW DIFFERENT, UH, AUTO REPAIR FACILITIES THAT ARE CLOSE TO WITHIN A HALF MILE. UM OUR POINT ON THAT IS THAT TWO OF THE THREE ARE NOT OIL CHANGE SPECIFIC. THEY'RE MORE AUTO REPAIR AND BRAKES RELATED. AND SO OUR USER TAKE FIBER OIL CHANGE REALLY JUST DOES OIL CHANGES. IT'S 95% OR MORE OF THEIR BUSINESS. UM AND ONE OF THE DRIVER'S EDGE IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE OVER A HALF MILE. UH, FROM THE LOCATION OF OUR SITE.

UM SO, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF AND WITH OUR COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, THEY MENTIONED THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD LOCATION FOR AN AUTOMOTIVE USE. IT IS NOT REALLY CLOSE TO ANY KIND OF RESIDENTIAL HOUSES AT ALL. UM AND IT'S ALONG A HIGHLY COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. UM WE DID MEET WITH, UH, STONEBRIDGE RANCH. HO A AND, UH, SHOWED THE BOARD THE DEVELOPMENT AND, UH, WHAT OUR INTENTIONS WERE, AND WE WERE MET WITH NO ISSUES OR CONCERNS FROM THEM. UM SO WHAT? WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HERE IS DELIVER SOMETHING THAT IS A LOT BETTER AND MORE HIGH END THAN WHAT A TYPICAL TAKE FIVE OIL CHANGE LOOKS LIKE ON THE LEFT. THAT'S YOUR PROTOTYPICAL TAKE FIVE THAT YOU SEE AROUND THE COUNTRY ON THE RIGHT IS WHAT WE PLAN TO DELIVER, WHICH IS GOING TO HAVE A PITCHED ROOF TO MAKE IT LOOK MORE HIGH END. UM WE ARE WORKING WITH STAFF RIGHT NOW ON THE DESIGN OF SCREENING, UH, FROM THE STREET TO HIDE THE BUILDING A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND UH, ALSO, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WINDOWS ON THE BAY DOORS ARE THE BAY DOORS. REPRESENT OR REPLICATE MORE OF A NICE, HIGH END WINDOW DESIGN AND LOOK SO THAT IT DOESN'T REALLY LOOK LIKE A GARAGE DOOR. IT SHOULD LOOK MORE LIKE A NICE, NICE GLAZING NICE GLASS THAT WILL BE ON THERE. SO IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, WE CAN ANSWER THOSE NOW. QUESTION. SIR. IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE SIDE?

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I SEE NO MR MAYOR BOOTH THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. UM I'LL MAKE A RE. UH WELL, IF WE GET A SECOND ON THAT, THEN I'LL MAKE MY REMARK ALL SET. YOU CAST YOUR VOTE ON THAT. THAT'S THE IS ABOUT JUST CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. OR NOT NOT WEIGHED IN YET ON THE, UH, THE ASK THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT AND I HAVE VISITED WITH THESE GUYS ABOUT IT, AND WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT IT. UM THE FACT STONEBRIDGE HO A GIVES A BLESSING STONEBRIDGE IS TOUGH OF A BODY EXCEPT FOR CRAIG RANCH YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IN MCKINNEY AND MUCH OF OUR CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF HAVING, UH, THE FORCE OF NATURE LIKE THAT BEHIND IT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, UH, I UNDERSTAND STAFFS. NO ON THIS BECAUSE STAFF HAS TO READ THE BOOK AND THEY IT IS A IT DOESN'T MEET WITH THE BOOK, BUT IT MEETS WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. AND I THINK THAT IF THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SCREENING THEY'RE DOING, IT'LL BE PROBABLY THE BEST LOOK AT ALL CHANGE PLACE IN MCKINNEY AND IF THEY HAD TO TURN IT, WHICH I ASKED THEM TO DO, IT WOULD COST US THE UNNAMED CHICKEN AND BISCUIT PLACE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE CAR SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS. ACTUALLY AGREE WITH STAFF ON THIS. I MEAN , WITHIN A THREE MILE RADIUS OF THIS PLACE AND IT QUICK SEARCHES AT LEAST 10 PLACES WHERE YOU CAN GET YOUR RULE. AND I AND I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THIS IS AN OIL CHANGE SPECIFIC BUSINESS, BUT I THINK THAT THE MARKET IS OBVIOUSLY I THINK WE RUN THE DANGER OF CLUSTERING A LOT OF THESE TOGETHER, AND I THINK THAT'S A BIG CONCERN FOR ME, SO I'M NOT IN FAVOR. I AGREE WITH THE STAFF ON THIS ONE. THE COMMENT. I'M GONNA HAVE TO FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. UM YOU KNOW, I IF IT WAS NOT FOR, UM THE DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE WHO HAS MET WITH THEM AND STONEBRIDGE.

STONEBRIDGE COMMERCIAL ALSO LOOKED AT IT AND HAD NO ISSUE. SO I'M I'M GONNA ON THAT SIDE OF THIS ONE. IS A NAIL BITER. MOTION. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE IT. SECOND, IT IS CAST YOUR BOOKS. IS APPROVED. UM MOTION APPROVED WITH A 4 TO 3 VOTE. NEXT ITEM, WE GO BACK TO THE

[Citizen Input on the Fiscal Year 2024-25 Budget]

ORDER OF AGENDA. 2414 58 CITIZEN INPUT ON FISCAL YEAR 2024 25 BUDGET, MR HOLLOWAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MARK HOLLOWAY, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER FOR THE CITY. UM TONIGHT WE IN ERNEST BEGIN THE PUBLIC FACING PORTION OF OUR BUDGET PROCESS WITH THE CITIZENS INPUT HEARING ON THE BUDGET. THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO OF THESE TYPES OF HEARINGS. WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER ONE IN AUGUST. I'LL BE SHOWING SOME OF THOSE DATES IN A FEW MINUTES. THIS IS NOT A TRADITIONAL OR A REQUIRED OFFICIAL BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING. WE'LL HAVE ONE OF THOSE ALSO IN SEPTEMBER, UM BUT, UH THIS IS A CITIZEN INPUT HEARING, AND IT'S COMBINED WITH THE BEGINNING OF A AN ONLINE TOOL THAT WE HAVE, UH, WHERE CITIZENS CAN TAKE A LITTLE SURVEY AND LET US KNOW WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR THEM. UM, I GOT A VERY SHORT LITTLE PRESENTATION, AND THEN WE CAN OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR ANY COMMENTS THAT CITIZENS MIGHT HAVE TONIGHT. AS IS TRADITION HERE IS THE FAMOUS CIRCLE GRAPH, UH, SHOWING HOW OUR BUDGET FLOWS THROUGH A YEAR FOR TONIGHT'S PURPOSES. I'VE ADDED A CIRCLE IN ANOTHER BOX, KIND OF SHOWING A DETAILING THE CITIZENS ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES WHICH BEGIN TONIGHT THROUGH THE ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET. UM AND THEN AS TO WHERE THE STAFF STANDS ON THIS BUDGET PROCESS, I CAN TELL YOU THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE TURNED IN THEIR BUDGETS, FINANCE AND BUDGET STAFF ARE DOING THEIR REVIEW AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO TRANSITION AFTER SOME REVIEW TO THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET, AND THEN FINALLY TO THE CITY COUNCIL'S BUDGET LATER IN AUGUST. ALSO WE DEVELOP OUR BUDGET EACH YEAR AND THIS IS YOU KNOW, I'M SURE ALL OF YOU WON'T REALLY HEAR ME. TALK ABOUT BUDGET PHILOSOPHY, SO MAKE SURE WE INCLUDE THIS, BUT WE DEVELOPED OUR BUDGET EACH YEAR WITH THE WITH THE PHILOSOPHY THAT THE BUDGET MUST TO OPERATE FOR US AS A THREE PART TOOL. THE FIRST PART IS THE POLICY TOOL THAT THE CITY COUNCIL THAT YOUR POLICY YOUR GOALS AND STRATEGY, AND IT ALLOWS US KIND OF TO DEVELOP THESE NEXT TWO SECTIONS, WHICH THE SECOND PART IS THE MANAGEMENT TOOL. THE BUDGET IS A MANAGEMENT TOOL BECAUSE IT ALLOWS THE CITY MANAGED OFFICE, FINANCE AND DEPARTMENT HEADS TO

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ALLOCATE OUR RESOURCES AND OUR REVENUES TO OPERATE IN A MANNER TO MEET STATED GOALS AND THEN FINALLY COMMUNICATIONS. UM AFTER WE ALLOCATE RESOURCES, WE COMMUNICATE OUR BUDGET. WE HAVE TWO MAIN TARGETS WITH THAT COMMUNICATION, THE FIRST CITY EMPLOYEES AND MANAGEMENT SHOWS HOW WE HOW WE'RE GOING TO INTEND TO OPERATE EACH YEAR AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO CARRY THAT OUT, AND THE SECOND PART IS FOR THE CITIZENS. IT DOES THE SAME THING IT TELLS CITIZENS EXACTLY WHAT WE PLAN TO DO FOR THAT FISCAL YEAR AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO CARRY IT OUT. SO I WANT TO SHOW THIS IS THE CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES THAT WE WILL BE HAVING THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 25 BUDGET TONIGHT WE HAVE A CITIZENS INPUT MEETING GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THE VIRTUAL BUDGET EXERCISE THAT IS NOW ONLINE. I CAN VERIFY THAT IT IS ONLINE AND READY TO FOR PEOPLE TO GO OUT AND TAKE UM, WE'LL KEEP THAT OPEN THROUGH JUNE 7TH, AND WE WILL INCORPORATE RIGHT THAT AS WE DEVELOP OUR BUDGET THROUGH THE MONTH OF AUGUST, AND YOU COULD FIND THAT CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITY ON THE CITY WEBSITE. I ALWAYS MENTION THE DATE THAT THE ROADMAP OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BUDGET FOR THE REST OF THIS YEAR ON JULY 25TH, WE WILL RECEIVE THE CERTIFIED TAX ROLL FROM COLLIN COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT WILL HAVE A TAX RATE RECORD VOTE. AS YOU RECALL. WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR. IT SETS OUR TAX RATE CEILING PLANNING TO DO THAT ON AUGUST 6TH. WHICH IS ALSO MY BIRTHDAY. WE WILL BE DOING THAT ON MY BIRTHDAY THIS YEAR ON AUGUST 9, WE WILL HAVE A BUDGET, THE BUDGET WORK SESSION. WE'LL DO THAT STARTING AT 830 IN THE MORNING AND HERE AND THEN AUGUST 20TH. WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER ONE OF THESE CITIZEN INPUT HEARINGS ON THE BUDGET. AND THEN ON SEPTEMBER THE THIRD WE'LL BE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX RATE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ON THE BUDGET AND BE ADOPTING THE BUDGET. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE HEADED FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. ALSO HAVE A BOND SALE. I WILL BE BEFORE SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS WITH THAT, I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. AND IF NO QUESTIONS, I'LL GET OUT OF THE WAY AND ALLOW OUR CITIZENS TO HAVE THEIR ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MARK. THIS IS A AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZEN INPUT. I'M SURE THAT THERE'S LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS SO ACTIVE ON SOCIAL MEDIA. COMPLAINING ABOUT BUDGET HERE TONIGHT, SO PLEASE MAKE YOURSELF KNOWN. HEY, THERE'S NONE. DID I MAKE A POINT? I'M SORRY, IS THAT UM YES, THAT WAS MY THAT WAS MY INSIDE VOICE AGAIN. THAT WAS MY OUTSIDE. UM I MADE THAT JOKE. MAYBE NOT THE BEST JOKE TO MAKE, BUT IT'S UH IT IS FRUSTRATING THAT WE HAVE INPUT PUBLIC INPUT MEANS LIKE THIS. AND OF COURSE, THIS IS THE TIME WHERE WE WANT CITIZEN INPUT. AND, UM THERE IS JUST THAT AUTHENTIC GROUP THAT IS VERY, VERY ACTIVE ONLINE. BUT BUT WHEN THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE CONSTRUCTIVE AND COME IN AND REALLY SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL ON PRIORITIES AND CHALLENGE PRIORITIES THAT WE MAY HAVE PUT FORTH IN A BUDGET THAT THEY DISAGREE WITH, UM THEY ARE ABSENT AND, UH, AWOL, AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE THE SYSTEM WORKS MUCH BETTER. WHEN THERE IS INPUT CONSTRUCTIVELY BY BY THOSE RESIDENTS WHAT WE OFTEN SEE IN TODAY'S WORLD OF, UH, DIGITAL SOCIAL MEDIA. UM WARRIOR BEHAVIOR. THERE IS NOTHING TO ACT ON SO AND THERE'S NOBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM. SO WE WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM.

[Consider/Discuss/Act on a Chapter 380, Grant, and Development Agreement by and among City of McKinney, Texas, McKinney Economic Development Corporation, McKinney Community Development Corporation, and Notes Live, Inc.]

MARK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. ITEM 241459 CONSIDER AN ACT ON CHAPTER 388 GRANT AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BY IN AMONG CITY OF MCKINNEY, TEXAS, MCKINNEY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, MCKINNEY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND NOTES LIVE INC.

WAS A DRAMATIC ENTRY ENTRY AS WELL. I SHOULD HAVE HAD MUSIC PLAYING. GOOD EVENING, MICHAEL KOWSKI, THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE MCKINNEY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE MEC. WELL. THIS PRESENTATION WILL BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT I SHOWED YESTERDAY. AND ALSO THIS MORNING . IT'S A TWO PART PRESENTATION AS A REMINDER. THIS WILL ALSO INCLUDE A PRESENTATION FROM MR BOB MUDD FROM NOTES, LIVE THE PRESIDENT AND CO. HE WILL SPEAK MORE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE SITE PLAN. UM CONCERNS AND OBSERVATIONS ABOUT NOISE AND TRAFFIC. UH, AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO SET THE TABLE AND KIND OF GROUND US INTO WHAT THIS PROJECT IS NOTES LIVE. WE HAVE SEEN THIS RENDERING IN MANY DIFFERENT MAS AND PLACES. CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE DETAILS FOR A QUICK MOMENT HERE? SPACE THE LIFE ENTERTAINMENT SPACES GROWING ACROSS THE COUNTRY. IT IS NO SURPRISE THAT A VENUE OF THIS SCALE MUST LOCATE IN NORTH TEXAS, WHERE WE ARE BOOMING AND ATTRACTING A GREAT POPULATION OF PEOPLE. THESE NUMBERS HERE REPRESENT A SMALL SEGMENT OF WHAT'S OUT THERE, UH, KIND OF PROVING THAT THIS TYPE OF EXPERIENCE FOR PEOPLE IS GROWING AND GETTING MORE IMPORTANT IN PEOPLE'S LIFESTYLES. THE PRODUCT

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ITSELF IS 20,000 SEATS, AS WE KNOW 300 PLUS SUITES AND COVERED SEATS AND PARKING. AND THEN THE INVESTMENT IN MCKINNEY, A $220 MILLION INVESTMENT IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. THAT WILL CREATE 677 JOB OPPORTUNITIES VIA 45 PLUS SHOWS, AND THAT'S JUST NOT CONCERTS THAT CAN ALSO INCLUDE 5 1015 MORE SHOWS THAT ARE EVENTS THAT COULD BE GRADUATIONS AND THINGS THAT ARE MORE COMMUNITY CENTRIC AS WE GO ALONG. 700,000 PEOPLE WILL COME TO THAT FACILITY. THE MODEL. THIS IS NOT A CITY OWNED FACILITY WILL NOT BE A CITY OWNED FACILITY, AS WE THINK ABOUT THESE TYPES OF STRUCTURES AND EXPERIENCES ACROSS THE COUNTRY MORE OFTEN THAN NOT THEIR OWNED BY THE CITY OPERATED BY THE CITY, AND THE RISK IS TAKEN ON MORE BY THE CITY. IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE AN INVESTOR WHO WISHES TO, IN ESSENCE, PUT THE LAND BACK ON THE TAX ROLL AND CREATE SALES TAX FOR OUR COMMUNITY OVERALL. NOTES LIVE ARE VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE PICKING SPOTS TO GO. IN FACT, I AM NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR MR MUDD TOO MUCH, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE WOULD BE VERY STRATEGIC ABOUT HOW THE ORIENT THE ROUTE AROUND THE COUNTRY AS YOU PUSH OURS FROM AS AS YOU SEE HERE, COLORADO, GEORGIA, OKLAHOMA, TENNESSEE AND OF COURSE, TEXAS AND MCKINNEY. AND THEN THIS WILL NOT BE RUN BY A SMALL OPERATION. THIS FACILITY WILL BE OPERATED BY A LIVE NATION OR A EG WHEN THE MAJOR OPERATORS IN THE SPACE THE OVERALL IMPACT PROJECTED ANNUAL SALES ON THE PROPERTY. THAT'S THAT'S FOOD AND BEVERAGE TICKET SALES. ALL THE CO T SHIRTS AND SO ON ABOUT $100 MILLION PER YEAR. VISITOR SPENDING APPROACHING $50 MILLION AND THAT HOTEL NIGHTS. UH, THAT'S NOT JUST FOR MCINNIS. IT'S ALL THE COUNTING COUNTIES.

SO THERE'S A GOOD DISBURSEMENT OF ECONOMIC IMPACT, NOT JUST ON THE SITE THROUGHOUT MCKINNEY BUT ALSO TO OUR NEIGHBORS. SO WHAT IS THAT ECONOMIC IMPACT? LET'S UH ESTABLISH WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW ON MCKINNEY. SO THE BYRON NELSON RESULTS IN ABOUT A $35 MILLION ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR THE FOUR DAY EVENT ABOUT $80 MILLION IN TOTAL OUTPUT. THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF CASH KIND OF COMING IN AND OUT OF THAT ENTIRE EXPERIENCE. THE NCAA DIVISION I FOOTBALL MATCH IS ABOUT $1 MILLION, AND FINALLY, THE AIRPORT IS ABOUT $200 MILLION ANNUALLY. THIS ONE'S PROJECTED AT ABOUT $281 MILLION IN ANNUAL ECONOMIC IMPACT TO MCKINNEY AND BEYOND. WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, EASY . MATH TELLS US ABOUT $6 BILLION , POTENTIALLY, UH OF ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR US. SOME MORE RENDERINGS FOR THOSE NOT FAMILIAR WITH HOW THE SITE IS SITUATED AND ORIENTED. IS A PROJECT SITE. GET YOUR BEARINGS. FINALLY THE SITE PLAN, WHICH MR MUDD WILL GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT IN MORE DETAIL IN A FEW MOMENTS. I LIKE TO CLOSE MY SEGMENT WITH YOU TO SPEAK ABOUT THE DEAL TERMS AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. UH, RIGHT NOW. NOTES LIBRARY IS COMMITTED TO, UM, INVESTING $220 MILLION IN THIS FACILITY. SEE MCKINNEY IS OFFERING TO OFFSET THE COST OF THE PARKING TO THE DEGREE OF $18 MILLION PAID OUT OVER SIX YEARS AT $3 MILLION INSTALLMENTS AND A GRANT FROM THE MEC AND A GRANT FROM THE M CDC. THESE ARE ALL CONTINGENT UPON THEM BUILDING THE STRUCTURE. IT'S ALL REIMBURSED PERFORMANCE BASED GRANTS. $26 MILLION, WHICH REPRESENTS ABOUT 12% OF THE TOTAL PROJECT COST. OFF SITE. THERE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BE NECESSARY TO ENSURE THAT THE TRAFFIC AND THE FLOW CAN WORK. UM, THE PER THE FINAL TRAFFIC STUDY, WHICH IS IN THE WORKS, WE'VE SO FAR IDENTIFIED, UH 9 1012 SPAS IN THE AREA THAT COULD USE SOME UPGRADES. UH, EXTRA TERM LANES. MORE STRIPING. THE CITY IS COMMITTED TO REIMBURSING THOSE LIVES OF THE $5 MILLION TO COMPLETE THAT WORK . HE WILL SEE SOME FLEXIBILITY HERE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE FINAL ITERATIONS COMPLETE. BETWEEN FIVE AND $8 MILLION OF MONEY SPENT BY NOT LIVE WILL SPLIT THAT 50 50/8 MILLION DOLLARS. THE CITY WILL COVER IMPORTANT NOTE IS WE WILL APPLY FOR GRANTS TO OFFSET THE EXPENSE FOR BOTH SIDES, SO WE ARE HOPEFUL THROUGH NATIONAL LOCAL, UH, GRANT OPPORTUNITIES. WE CAN, UM, GET THIS FUNDED BY OTHER AGENCIES. OVERALL FEES, NOTES LIVE WILL PAY ALL PERMIT FEES, ALL INSPECTION FEES. WE HAVE A MCKINNEY WORK CALLED IMPACT FEES, WHICH ARE ADDITIONAL FEES THAT OUR CORRELATED TO THE IMPACT OF THE DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE GONNA CAP THAT AT A MILLION DOLLARS IN THE CITY WILL GIVE AS AN INCENTIVE TO BOUNCE OF THAT WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT $3 MILLION OVERALL. SEPARATING MATERIALS IS NOT A COMMON PHRASE OR WHAT IT MEANS IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO WORK TO ESTABLISH AN ADDRESS OF THE PROPERTY AND MAKE SURE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE ANY CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS PURCHASED

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FOR THIS PROJECT ARE PURCHASED IN MCKINNEY AT AT THAT ADDRESS, IT'S A HOME ADDRESS. WHAT THAT DOES IT PUTS SALES TAX BACK INTO OUR SYSTEM. WE HAVE OFFERED TO REIMBURSE NOTES LIKE 80% OF THE CITY'S 1% AND THE ME DC M CDC KEEPING 100% OF OUR PORTION. THE NUMBERS ARE OFF TO THE RIGHT. OF COURSE, I WILL PAUSE HERE FOR A MOMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE CURRENT SALES TAX. UM METRICS. UH, RIGHT NOW, WHEN YOU PAY SALES TAX 2% OF THAT COMES BACK TO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. 1% GOES RIGHT TO THE CITY, A CITY MCKINNEY A HALF CENT HALF A PERCENT COMES TO THE ME DC AND A HALF GOES TO THE M CDC. IN THIS CASE HERE, MCDC EDC WILL KEEP 100% OF THAT. TAKES US AND THE SALES TAX. THE METRICS ARE 75% OF REIMBURSEMENT OF SALES TAX PRODUCED ON THE PROPERTY AS A PERFORMANCE BASED, THEY HAVE TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE SHOWS AND PRODUCE THE PROJECTED SALES TAX TO GET REIMBURSED THESE FIGURES AFTER FEW YEARS, ONE THROUGH 11 75% YEARS, 12 TO 16, 40% AND AGAIN THE SAME RULE OF THUMB M DC M CDC WILL KEEP 100% OF OUR PORTION THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO PUT INTO THE COMMUNITY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES. THESE ARE ESTIMATES BASED UPON PROJECTED SALES, BUT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OVER 20 YEARS, NO SLIDE COULD RECEIVE $11.5 MILLION AND MCKINNEY $32.4 MILLION OVER THAT SITE, SAME TIME SPAN, AND THIS IS A STRAIGHT LINE ESTIMATE. THIS IS NOT WHAT ACCELERATORS OR ANY TYPE OF DIFFERENT INCREASES IN OVERALL. SALES TAX. AT VALOREM.

THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF IMPROVEMENTS OF THE VALUE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY AFTER IT'S CONSTRUCTED USING THE SAME EQUATION HERE, 75% AND 40% FOR THE YEAR'S NOTED OTHER AGENCIES. KEEP THE SAME. KEEP 100% OF WHAT THEY'RE THEY'RE BRINGING IN. AND THE RIGHTS AN EXAMPLE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT OVER 20 YEARS, SO NOTES LIVE COULD RECOUP UP TO $3.9 MILLION IN REIMBURSEMENT. MCKINNEY 4.4, CLO COUNTY 2.9. COWEN COLLEGE 1.6 AND FINALLY, MCKINNEY SCHOOL DISTRICT. $22 MILLION OVER 20 YEARS SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY COMING INTO THAT SITE. TO HELP NO LIVE ACHIEVE THEIR OPERATIONAL GOALS. WE HAVE ALSO ENCOURAGED THEM TO APPLY A $1 TICKET FEE. UH FOR TICKETS, YOU KNOW FOR A MCKINNEY SHOW WHEREBY WE WILL KEEP 10 CENTS FROM EACH TICKET SOLD, AND 90 CENTS WILL GO BACK TO NOTES LIVE. UH, AGAIN . HERE'S THE HOW IT PLAYS OUT SO $13 MILLION TO NOTES LIVE AND 1.5 BACK TO MCKINNEY DOES NOT A SALES TAX, UH, REIMBURSEMENT THAT IS NOT ON PROPERTY TAX. THAT'S TRULY PEOPLE PAYING. INSIDE THE FACILITY COVERING THIS EQUATION. AND THE LAND. WE'VE ASSIGNED A VALUE OF THE LAND OF $35 MILLION. SO UH, HOW THIS MAY WORK IS AS WRITTEN IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. NO SLY WILL UPFRONT THAT MONEY INTO THE CASH AS WELL AS LETTER OF CREDIT AND NOT UNTIL THE PROJECT IS BUILT. OPEN OPERATIONAL. WILL IT BE THAT MONEY BE RETURNED TO THEM? SO IN THE END, THEY WILL OWN THE PROPERTY AND PAY FULL PROPERTY TAXES ON IT. BASED UPON THE EQUATIONS AFTER 17 YEARS OF THE SALES, TAX AND PROPERTY TAX REIMBURSEMENTS CITY COLLECTS 100% OF THAT. AFTER 20 YEARS, THERE'S REALLY NO MORE ACTIVE INCENTIVES. WE GET 100% OF EVERYTHING AFTER THAT. HERE ARE THE NUMBERS HOW THEY WORK OUT.

WE'VE SEEN IT IN ONE SNAPSHOT. I SPOKE ABOUT THE GRANTS, WHICH ARE FOR PARKING INFRASTRUCTURE $26 MILLION. THINK ABOUT THAT THE BRICKS AND MORTAR, ACTUAL WORK OF IT. PERFORMANCE BASED, THAT'S AGAIN OVER 20 YEARS. THESE ARE ESTIMATES OF SALES TAX AVALOR, AS WELL AS SEPARATING MATERIALS COULD ACHIEVE UP TO 16 MILLION THE OFF SITE AT $5 MILLION.03 MILLION DOLLARS WE 750 MILLION DOLLARS, AND THEN IN ADDITION, IT COULD BE THE LAND WHICH THAT NUMBER WE VALUE AT $35 MILLION. AND FINALLY, WHAT I CALL A PASS THROUGH THE TICKET FEE AT $13.1 MILLION. SO WITH THAT I STAND FOR ANY INITIAL QUESTIONS. BUT AGAIN, MR MUDD IS PRIMED AND READY TO SPEAK ABOUT THE REST OF THE PROJECT. MIKE ON THE SLIDE REFERENCED THE ECONOMIC IMPACT. IT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECT THAT IS BASED ON THE MINIMUM COMMITTED 45 SHOWS. CORRECT. SO IF AT 60 SHOWS EXAMPLE. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A 33% INCREASED INCREASE IN THAT YES, SIR. YES, SIR. IF I MAY I WELCOME, MR MUDD. THANK YOU. COUNSEL THANK YOU, UH, FOR

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THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT MAYOR FULLER, UM OBVIOUSLY WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF DISCUSSIONS OVER THE PAST 24 HOURS, AND I HOPE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THAT ARE STILL OUTSTANDING AND ALSO SHARE MAYBE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. UH THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT. UM UH, FROM THE DAO YESTERDAY, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WALKING THROUGH SOME OF THAT. UM, AS WE REVIEW THE PROJECT AGAIN TODAY AGAIN, MY NAME IS BOB MURDO. I LIVE IN GAINESVILLE, GEORGIA. UH, I CAN CLAIM TWO SONS BORN IN FORT WORTH IF THAT GETS ME ANY STREET CREDIBILITY WHEN I LIVED IN KELLER, TEXAS, BUT UH, THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE FACILITY FROM FROM THE NORTHEAST, 75 AND 121. UM QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT TEAM. UH, JW. ROTH IS OUR C CEO AND CHAIRMAN. HE'S ALSO THE FOUNDER OF NOTES LIVE. HE IS ALSO THE FOUNDER AND, UH, AND CHAIRMAN OF, UH OF ROTH PREMIUM FOODS, WHICH IS THE THIRD LARGEST PROTEIN FINISHER IN THE UNITED STATES. UM A VERY, UH, ACCOMPLISHED BUSINESS PERSON THAT IS LEADING THIS COMPANY MYSELF AS PRESIDENT AND COO AND WADE BEAVERS IS OUR PRESIDENT OF NOT SLAV REAL ESTATE CORP. WHICH WILL WILL MANAGE THE PROPERTY. OUR CONSULTANTS PROJECT TEAM IS VERY EXPERIENCED IT GOT ITS FINGERS IN MANY OF THE MOST ICONIC MUSIC VENUES. UH, LOCATED ALL OVER THE WORLD. UH JEFF CROCKER IS THE LEAD ARCHITECT FOR ALL OF OUR PROJECTS. UNDERNEATH HIM IS EMMY ENGINEERS , MARTIN AND MARTIN THEATER CONCEPTS, WHICH IS WELL KNOWN FOR THEIR STATE'S CONSTRUCTION, ACOUSTICS AND SOUND MITIGATION. UH OUR NOISE CONSULTANT MATT MAHO FROM LSTN AND ALL OF OUR CIVIL WORK, INCLUDING OUR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS OF WHICH WE'VE, UH ARE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET THAT YOU HAVE FOR THE OFF-SITE IMPROVEMENTS IN ADDITION TO THE CIVIL WORK THAT WILL BE DONE ON SITE AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME, THE PARKING AND TRAFFIC REPORT THAT WE COMPLETED , UH, WAS COMPLETED BY KIM LE HORN IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PLANNING FOLKS HERE AT THE AT THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE AMPHITHEATER.

IT'S LOCATED AT ONE OF THE HIGHEST CAPACITY INTERSECTIONS IN DALLAS FORT WORTH, UH, IT'S DESIGNED BY RENOWNED ARCHITECTS, YOU KNOW, LUXURIOUS STATE OF THE ART OPEN VENUES NOW THIS VENUE WAS NOTED, UH, THIS DESIGN WAS NOTED AS BY BILLBOARD MAGAZINE IS ONE OF THE MOST COMPELLING CONCEPTS. UH, LAST YEAR, UH, FOR NEW NEW MUSIC VENUES BEING CREATED IN THE UNITED STATES, THE ONE THAT WE HAVE OPENING IN AUGUST HAS BEEN IN THE ROLLING STONE, THE BILLBOARD MAGAZINE AND THE WALL STREET JOURNAL. OUR FACILITY IN COLORADO SPRINGS. UH, WE HAVE, UH, A LIST ARTISTS THAT THAT WILL ROUTE APPROXIMATELY 50 TO 60 SHOWS PER YEAR AND WE CONTRACT WITH LAB NATION OR A E. THIS IS A REALLY CRITICAL COMPONENT TO UNDERSTAND IN TERMS OF HOW THE INDUSTRY WORKS BECAUSE WE ARE BUILDING A FACILITY. WE ARE PARTNERING WITH MUNICIPALITIES, BUT ULTIMATELY, UH, LONG TERM CONTRACTS ARE ESTABLISHED WITH LAB NATION OR A E LAB NATION IS THE NUMBER ONE PROGRAMMING ENTITY IN THE WORLD. A E IS NUMBER TWO HERE IN THE UNITED STATES AS A PART OF OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY. WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THOSE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE FOR A TENURE OF A MINIMUM OF 10 YEARS FOR US TO QUALIFY FOR THE INCENTIVES THAT WERE PRESENTED PRIOR TO ME, SO THIS IS NOT A, UH, A LACK OF EXPERIENCE THAT'S AT THE TABLE. WE'RE BRINGING VERY EXPERIENCED PARTNERS TO BEAR ALONGSIDE OF US. THIS UH, VENUE IS, UH, PICTURE IS SHOWN FROM THE ORIENTATION THAT WOULD BE AT ABOUT THE INTERSECTION OF 75 AND UH AND 121. THE STADIUM. SELF SEATING, UH, LAWN SEATING AND 326 COVERED AND CATERED SUITES. UM, THESE SUITES ARE QUITE UNIQUE. UH, IT'S A COMBINATION OF FOUR PERSONS. SIX PERSON, EIGHT PERSON AND 10 PERSON. FIRE PIT SUITES IN THE BACK IS A 700 PERSON. UH, CATERED, UH, EVENT CENTER THAT HAS SEATING IN FRONT OF IT. THAT EVENT CENTER SITS UP NEARLY 80 FT AT ITS FLOOR LOOKING DOWN INTO THE AMPHITHEATER. IT'S GREAT FOR CORPORATE HOSTING. IN ADDITION TO, UM, A KIND OF A HE HOSPITALITY EXPERIENCE FOR SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO THE CONCERT. THE SEATING BILL WILL BE COVERED AND PROVIDE PROTECTION DURING INCLEMENT WEATHER. UH, ANOTHER REALLY CRITICAL PIECE OF THIS THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND IS THE AVERAGE SEAT SIZE IN AN ARENA IS 19 INCHES. UH THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE. WE'VE GONE WITH 22 INCH SEATS AND 23, A COMBINATION OF 22 AND 23 AT SEATS, EVEN THE GRASS AREAS IN THE BACK, UH, ARE A SHAW PRODUCT THAT INCLUDES HYDRO, WHICH REDUCES THE SURFACE TEMPERATURE ABOUT 30 DEGREES, SO WE ARE LEAVING NO STONE UNTURNED TO CREATE WHAT AND YOU KNOW, EXPECTED TO BE THE MOST LUXURIOUS AMPHITHEATER IN THE UNITED STATES. WE WILL HOST THE PREMIERE GRAMMY AWARD-WINNING NATIONAL ARTIST. UM APRIL THROUGH OCTOBER OF EACH YEAR. UH, YOU NEED TO GO NO FURTHER THAN OUR WEBSITE. UH, FOR OUR OPENING ACT IN AUGUST THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR IN COLORADO TO SEE THE TYPES OF ARTISTS THAT WOULD BE, UH, REGULARS HERE AT MCKINNEY THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF OUR OF OUR OF OUR SUITES. THIS IS RELATED TO THE OR IS OUT OF THE DRAWINGS FOR THE MCKINNEY AMPHITHEATER. YOU CAN SEE A, UH, A SUITE THAT'S FASHIONED AFTER SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD DO IN

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YOUR BACK BACKYARD. UH TO HAVE FRIENDS AND FAMILY GATHER AROUND THE FIRE, HAVE GOOD FOOD AND DRINK SERVICE TO THE SWEETS, UM, IN ADDITION TO SERVICE TO THE SEATS WHAT ARE OUR GOALS? WE WANT TO PROVIDE A NORTH TEXAS WITH A LUXURY DESTINATION AS I MENTIONED YESTERDAY, UH, WE'VE SPENT ALMOST TWO YEARS UM, OUR FIRST UH UH UH UM NEGOTIATION WAS WEST OF HERE, AND IT WAS DURING THE BIG STORM. I ENDED UP THREE NIGHTS IN THE, UH, IN A IN A HOTEL IN SOUTH LAKE. UH, BECAUSE OF THE ICE STORM THAT CAME IN THROUGH THE DALLAS FORT WORTH. SO WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS FOR A LONG TIME. AND WE ARE, UH, QUITE BEYOND EXCITED NOT JUST BY THE LOCATION, BUT ALSO WITH THE PARTNERSHIP THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED WITH THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. WE WANT TO DEVELOP A PROJECT THAT IS IN A WAY THAT POSITIONS A SENTENCE SET AS A GOOD NEIGHBOR. UM, I KNOW THERE ARE A MYRIAD OF CONCERNS. I'M GOING TO ADDRESS MANY OF THOSE TONIGHT. UM WHAT I WANT TO EXPRESS MORE THAN ANYTHING IS OUR WILLINGNESS TO LISTEN TO ADJUST AND TO BE GREAT PARTNERS, INCLUDING CONTRACTUAL LANGUAGE THAT WILL THAT HAS BEEN AGREED ON EARLIER TODAY, WHERE WE'RE WE'RE NOT JUST SAYING WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING. IF IT'S IMPORTANT, AND WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, WE'RE WILLING TO MAKE COMMITMENTS THAT HAVE, UM PENALTIES IF WE DON'T DO IT SIGNIFICANT PENALTIES. THIS WILL GENERATE 5.5 TO 6 BILLION IN LOCAL ECONOMIC IMPACT IN THE 1ST 20 YEARS, UM, HOSTING GRADUATIONS, CULTURAL EVENTS, FAMILY FRIENDLY COMMUNITY AND CIVIC EVENTS. WE MET WITH THE PRESIDENT OF COLLIN COLLEGE TODAY, AND HE SAYS, WHEN DO YOU OPEN BECAUSE I NEED A GRADUATION FACILITY. UM AND SO WE'LL BE DELIGHTED, UH, TO BE THE HOST OF THAT GRADUATION FACILITY. UH, THAT GRADUATION CELEBRATION. PROVIDE SEASONAL JOBS FOR LOCAL STUDENTS, FULL TIME JOBS AND CONSTRUCTION JOBS. THE CONVERSATION, UH, WITH WITH COLIN COLLEGE AS WELL IMMEDIATELY WENT TO ONE OF THE HOSPITALITY SERVICES. WHAT ARE YOUR FOOD AND BEVERAGE NEEDS? WHAT TYPE OF CULINARY ARTS? ARE YOU GOING TO NEED? WHAT TYPE OF ENTERTAINMENT TRAINING YOU'RE GONNA NEED. THOSE ARE ALL ELEMENTS THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH A NEIGHBOR, LITERALLY A NEIGHBOR TO THE AMPHITHEATER. THIS RENDERING IS FROM THE NORTHWEST SIDE, LOOKING BACK AT THE AMPHITHEATER, UH, WITH 121 THERE IN THE BACKGROUND. ANY TIME WE UH, DETERMINE A SITE WHICH THIS WILL BE OUR OUR OUR FIFTH LOCATION FOR AN OUTDOOR AMPHITHEATER THAT WE'VE DONE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DUE DILIGENCE ON. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF KEY THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO VALIDATE. UM THE POSITIONING THE PARKING, THE TRAFFIC AND THE SOUND, ULTIMATELY ALSO THE SECURITY WHICH I'LL SHARE ON MY LAST SLIDE. UM WE BROUGHT TO BEAR TO DO THAT, UH, FROM A POSITIONING PERSPECTIVE, WE'VE DONE A FULL SITE STUDY WITH BC A AND OUR STRUCTURAL ARCHITECTS. WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE, UH, THE GEOTECHNICAL WORK ON THE TO VALIDATE THAT WE CAN POSITION THE AMPHITHEATER WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. WE'VE GOT OUR ALTA SURVEYS. WE'VE DONE A GREAT DEAL OF WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A SUITABLE SITE. UM, WE VALIDATE PARKING CAPACITY. KLEY HORN DID A VERY EXTENSIVE STUDY.

I WOULD SAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF MAYBE 50 OR 60 PAGES OF ASSESSMENTS OF EACH OF THE INTERSECTIONS IN AND AROUND THE AMPHITHEATER, UM, LOOKING AT, LIKE FACILITIES IN THE REGION, THE DENSITY OF PEOPLE PER CAR SO THAT WE BUILD ENOUGH PARKING, BUT NOT TOO MUCH SO WE UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS OF RIDE SHARE AND CREATE CAPACITY FOR THE EBB AND FLOW OF THE INGRESS AND EGRESS OF RIDESHARE. AS IT RELATES TO THIS REGION. KIM HORN IS THE ONE THAT HAS PROVIDED THAT REPORTING. THEY ALSO PROVIDED THE TRAFFIC CAPACITY, UM, TO HAVE A GREAT HOSPITALITY EXPERIENCE. UM YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DRAIN THE FACILITY IN 35 TO 40 MINUTES. IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, AND PEOPLE ARE SITTING IN TRAFFIC FOR AN HOUR, TWO HOURS. UM, IT'S NOT A PLACE THAT THEY'RE LIKELY GOING TO FREQUENT. SO OUR DESIRE IN DOING SO IS TO, UH, TO VALIDATE THAT WE CAN, UH, DOUBLE DOWN ON OUR HOSPITALITY EXPERIENCE, NOT JUST WHAT HAPPENS AT THE SHOW. BUT WHAT HAPPENS AFTER ABOUT EIGHT SOUND SUITABILITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT THAT THAT WAS COMPLETED BY LSTN. WE PLAYED WITH A NUMBER OF VERY, UM, UH VARIED APPROACHES TO THE POSITIONING OF THE BALL, AND THERE WERE FROM A FROM AAA. FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF POSITIONING THE BALL. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF WAYS WE COULD HAVE DONE THIS. AT THE END OF THE DAY. THE BIGGEST DRIVER WAS THE NATURE IN WHICH THE STAGE COULD BE ORIENTED FARTHEST FROM FROM THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT. UM THE SECOND PIECE THAT MAKES THIS MOST SUITABLE FROM A POSITIONING PERSPECTIVE IS IT BRINGS THE BACK OF HOUSE WHICH HAS A LOT OF, UH COMING AND GOING FROM 18 W TRUCKS, FOOD DELIVERIES AND SO FORTH. IT KEEPS IT OUT OF THE PEDESTRIAN TRAVEL PATH BECAUSE YOU'RE PARKING IS TO THE EAST AND TO THE NORTH TO OUR DISCUSSION THAT OCCURRED YESTERDAY FROM THE DIAS. I'D LIKE FOR IF YOU COULD COUNSEL TO LOOK AT, UH IN PARTICULAR LOT TWO. UH, ON THE EAST SIDE, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO COMMIT TO SOME ADJUSTMENTS THERE. BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT YESTERDAY, UM, LEAVING THE MEETING YESTERDAY. THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY SIGNIFICANT CONCERN ABOUT WHAT? WHAT IT IS THAT WE COULD DO TO PROTECT FROM THE LOW

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FREQUENCY SOUNDS EMANATED FROM THE STAGE, PARTICULARLY TO THE EASTERN CORRIDOR. AND SO I CONVENE WITH OUR ARCHITECTS, OUR SOUND CONSULTANTS AND ALSO, UM, BROUGHT IN THE EXPERTISE OF THE FOLKS THAT BE PRODUCING THESE SHOWS, AND I KNOW WE HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB WITH THIS, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE COULD DO? UM I WAS, UH, IN SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSION WITH THE MAYOR WHO ALSO HAD SOME IDEAS. UH, GEORGE WAS VERY PERSISTENT IN ASKING THE QUESTION, BOB. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE CAN DO TO PROTECT THAT HEDGE? UM OVERNIGHT , WE ENDED UP UH, DETERMINING THAT THE MOST SUITABLE THING THAT WE CAN DO NOW, REMEMBER, THIS IS A EVERYTHING THAT IS PURPLE IS NOT A SINGLE STORY PARKING GARAGE. IT IS A PEDESTAL, SO THAT IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND CONCRETE. WHAT OUR ACOUSTICIANS AND OUR PRODUCER OUR PRODUCTION, FOLKS SAID. IF YOU WOULD PUT A SOLID SURFACE WALL DOWN THE ENTIRE WESTERN SIDE OF THAT, UH, PARKING FACILITY THEN THAT WOULD HAVE A VERY APPRECIABLE EFFECT TO THE LOW DENS TO THE LOW FREQUENCY SOUNDS THAT COULD GO TO THE EAST. AND SO WE ARE GOING TO COMMIT TO DO THAT. AS A PART OF THE TRAFFIC COUNTS. YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF INTERSECTIONS.

THERE ARE EIGHT INTERSECTIONS. I BELIEVE, UM, WHERE TRAFFIC STUDIES WERE DONE. THEY WEREN'T JUST DONE WITH CURRENT A CURRENT LAYER OF INFORMATION. WE ALSO PARTNERED WITH THE PLANNING FOLKS HERE IN THE CI CITY OF MCKINNEY FOR THE PURPOSES OF LAYERING IN A 2026 VIEW, PLUS HOUR TRAFFIC TO DETERMINE WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING, AND IF YOU'RE INTO TRAFFIC DESIGN, IT ENDS UP PRODUCING A LETTER GRADE. AND THOSE LETTER GRADES MEAN SOMETHING BECAUSE IT TELLS US WHETHER OR NOT INTERSECTIONS CAN HANDLE IT. AND ULTIMATELY, WHAT IT DOES IS, IT GIVES US FEEDBACK AS TO WHAT OFF SITE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR THIS TO BE AN EFFECTIVE FACILITY FOR INGRESS AND EGRESS. AND SO THERE'S A LIST OF ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THAT WILL BE MADE OFF SITE. UH, THOSE WILL BE REFINED OVER TIME YOU SAW IN THE ECONOMIC INCENTIVE PACKAGE, A NUMBER OF DOLLARS COMING FROM THE CITY, A NUMBER OF DOLLARS COMING FROM US AND LIKELY A NUMBER OF DOLLARS COMING FROM THE STATE THAT WILL ULTIMATELY ALLOW US TO TIME LIGHTS TO ADD TURN LANES AND TO DO THE THINGS THAT ALLOW THE INGRESS AND THE EGRESS OF THIS FACILITY TO OPERATE VERY EFFECTIVELY. ONE OF THE UNIQUE THINGS ABOUT THIS FACILITY AS COMPARED TO MANY OF THE OTHERS, NOT JUST ONES THAT WE ARE DESIGNING AND OWNING ANY FACILITY IS THE FACT THAT FOR ITS LOCATION AND HOW CLOSE IT IS TO TWO FREEWAYS, THERE ARE SIX POINTS OF GETTING EAST WEST, NORTH AND SOUTH AND THAT IS A VERY EFFECTIVE MEANS FOR BOTH THE SAFETY PERSPECTIVE AND FROM A TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE. IN THE IN THE FRAMEWORK OF SOUND MITIGATION. THERE ARE THREE STRATEGIES, PHYSICAL MITIGATION, ELECTROACOUSTIC MITIGATION AND OPERATIONAL MITIGATION OPERATIONAL BEING WHEN SOMEBODY DOES SOMETHING THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT WE CAN MEASURE IT AND SHUT IT DOWN. UNDER PHYSICAL MITIGATION. UH, THE STAGE IS SURROUNDED BY TWO STORY SOLID SURFACE BUILDINGS. AS I MENTIONED TO YOU WE ARE NOW COMMITTING TO. I THINK IT'S UH I'LL GET YOU THE EXACT FEED FOR THE FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMITMENT. IT'S GOING TO BE BETWEEN 28 AND 30 FT OF A CONCRETE WALL THAT WILL FLANK THE EASTERN SIDE OF OUR AMPHITHEATER, WHICH IS A DEVELOPMENT FROM FROM YESTERDAY.

UM WE HAVE RAISED BOTH SEATING OF APPROXIMATELY 80 FT. AT THE HEIGHT AND THE PICTURE THAT I SHOWED YOU WHERE THE PEOPLE WERE SITTING, LOOKING DOWN INTO THE BOWL THAT IS SITTING THE ROOF OF THAT BUILDING IS SITTING 80 FT ABOVE STAGE LEVEL. UM BEHIND THAT IS A SUBSTANTIAL MASS OF GRADE EARTH GRADE AND, UM, ARCHITECTURAL BLOCK THAT WILL ULTIMATELY BE THE STRUCTURE THAT SUPPORTS THE BACK OF THE AMPHITHEATER. SO FROM A FOUNT FROM A SOUND ATTENUATION PERSPECTIVE, IT'S GONNA BE A VERY EFFICIENT FACILITY. ELECTROACOUSTIC MITIGATION. WE ARE COMMITTED THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS ADDED TO OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TODAY TAKES THESE ELEMENTS THAT ARE INCORPORATED IN THE SOUND STUDY AND INCORPORATES THEM INTO THE MANDATES OF OUR EXPECTATION THAT WE OPERATE IN A MANNER THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THIS, SO WE HAVE MANDATED VERTICAL ARRAY, SPEAKERS AND IMPLEMENTATION OF DELAY CLUSTERS. THOSE DELAY CLUSTERS AS YOU CAN SEE TOWARDS THE LEFT SIDE OF THE STAGE WHERE THE BLUE CROSS IS PROVIDES FOR THE GREEN AND THE OWNER SUITE IN THE BACK TO BE POWERED BY SOMETHING THAT'S A LOT CLOSER TO THEM SO THAT ALL OF THE POWER DOES NOT HAVE TO COME FROM THE STAGE AND WE HAVE COMMITTED TO CAP THE HEIGHT. THE SOUND PRODUCTION AT 40 FT. SO THIS YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY THE LINE OF RAYS ARE HUNG. THEY WILL ONLY BE 40 FT. OFF THE GROUND WITH A POINTED DOWN WITH THE REAR OF THE AMPHITHEATER BEING AT 80 FT. HERE'S A PERSPECTIVE THAT I THINK MIGHT BE VALUABLE FROM YOU SIT STANDING UP ON THE ON THE TOP OF THE GREEN. OPERATIONAL MITIGATION MITIGATION. WE HAVE COMMITTED TO SOUND CHECKS TO START AFTER 3 P.M. UM AS A PART OF THIS, THE MOST RECENT

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DISCUSSION AS WELL. WE HAVE COMMITTED TO NOISE DETECTION AT THE FRONT OF HOUSE AND AT THE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES. UM THAT IS CRITICAL ONE OF THE PIECES THAT WE'RE CONTENDING WITH WITH THIS LOCATION IS THE FACT THAT TODAY IF YOU GO OUT TO THAT SITE AT THE STAGE IT READ DURING OUR TESTING 62 DB, A AT THE WESTERN BOUNDARY OF THE SITE. IT READ BETWEEN 78 AND 82. UM, ON A STATIC BASIS. AND SO WHEN A MOTORCYCLE COMES BY, THERE ARE THINGS OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL.

WE CAN'T CONTROL THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING OUTSIDE OF THE AMPHITHEATER. WHAT WE CAN CONTROL IS THE ATTENUATION AND WE CAN CONTROL WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE FRONT OF HOUSE AND HOW THAT IMPACTS OTHER, UH OTHER AREAS AROUND US, AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO DOING THAT.

POSITIONED THE MENU TO GO UP HIGHWAY 71 TO REDUCE IMPACT OF HIGH FREQUENCIES. THE HIGH FREQUENCIES ARE THE ONES THAT TRAVEL MOST DIRECTIONALLY. UM ULTIMATELY, I THINK BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHT OF THIS AMPHITHEATER, IT'S GOING TO BE A HIGHLY EFFICIENT AND PROTECTING THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE TO THE NORTH. 1400 FT IN THE FREEWAY TO THE WEST 1400 FT OVER TO THE TO THE TO THE LOCATION TO THE EAST, WITH THE ADDITION OF THE WALL IN THAT DIRECTION, AND WITH THE 80 FT. WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE MOST OPTIMAL PLACEMENT OF THE AMPHITHEATER.

THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE MEASUREMENTS. UM, AS I MENTIONED YESTERDAY, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THEORETICAL TO THE DEGREE THAT ALL SCIENCE IS THEORETICAL UNTIL IT'S ACTUALLY MEASURED. UM, WE DO BELIEVE, AND IT HAS BEEN VALIDATED BY SECONDARY SOURCES THAT THESE ARE REASONABLE AND VALID RESULTS. WE DO BELIEVE THAT, UM, THE COVENTRY POINT AND THE, UM MAGNOLIA BRANCH WILL BE IMPACTED LOWER AS A RESULT OF THE WALL TO THE EAST AND VALIDATED WITH OUR ACOUSTIC THAT THE ROOF WHICH DEFINITELY REDUCE IT, BUT HE WAS NOT WILLING TO COMMIT TO HOW MUCH DEPENDING ON THE SURFACE NATURE OF IT, SO WE BELIEVE THESE ARE DEMONSTRATING A WORST CASE SCENARIO, GIVEN THE COMMITMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE AT THE FRONT OF HOUSE. AGAIN THIS IS THE PETERSON AND GROSS SCALE, WHICH SHOWS YOU THE EQUIVALENCY OF THE SOUND FOR THE RANGES THAT THAT WILL BE, UM, REACHING THOSE AREAS. THE LTN IS THE 105 DB IN A 30 MINUTE PERIOD. THE L 91 OF THE THINGS ABOUT, UM, THE CONCERN THAT WAS EXPRESSED YESTERDAY AND I DID A POOR JOB I BELIEVE OF EXPLAINING THE NATURE OF THE LOW FREQUENCY SOUNDS AND HOW THEY PERPETUATE. AND UM, JUST A QUICK NOTE ON THAT. IS THAT THE, UH YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A SHOW AS A MATTER OF LIKE AN EDM SHOW, WHICH IS GONNA HAVE A LOT OF A LOT OF BASS IN IT. THE A WEIGHTED LIMITS ARE TYPICALLY USED TO CORRESPOND TO THE HUMAN EXPERIENCE. THAT'S WHY MOST MUNICIPALITIES USE EB AS ITS STANDARD IN AN EDM SHOW DOES TEND TO HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL OF LOW FREQUENCY SOUNDS. UM BUT AND THEY WEIGHTED SCALE IS A BIG IT'S AGNOSTIC TO THE DEGREE THAT IT LIMITS THE OVERALL SOUND LEVELS AT ALL FREQUENCIES, AND IT'S WEIGHTED AS A SUM NOT AS AN AVERAGE SO IF YOUR LOW FREQUENCIES ARE HIGHER, IT'S GONNA FORCE DOWN ALL THE OTHER SOUNDS IN TERMS OF HOW IT'S EXPERIENCED AT THE HUMAN LEVEL.

UM, SO THAT WAS, UH WHAT'S EDM. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT STANDS FOR MAYOR, BUT I KNOW IT'S POPULAR AMONGST THE YOUNG PEOPLE. ELECTRONIC DANCE MUSIC, ELECTRONIC DANCE MUSIC. I WANTED TO DEMONSTRATE MY AGE. THANK YOU, AS OPPOSED TO A RECORD PLAYER. YEAH, I THINK THIS IN TERMS OF SAFETY. WE ARE COMMITTING TO AN ON-SITE POLICE SUBSTATION WITHIN THE, UH, WITHIN THE AMPHITHEATER. WE WILL HAVE ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT UNITS ON SITE FOR ALL EVENTS. UH, WE DO NOT ALLOW TAIL GRADING IN THE PARKING LOTS FOR MULTIPLE REASONS. SAFETY BEING A PRIMARY.

WE HIRE FULL TIME FULL TIME SECURITY FOR THE VENUE. UH, OUR MANAGEMENT IS EXPERTLY TRAINED, UH, OUR OPERATORS AND WHETHER ANY DECISIONS THEY ARE NORAD TRAINED FOLKS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH, UM LA NATION OR A E. WHOEVER ENDS UP PROGRAMMING THAT AND I'M GOING BACK TO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF I MADE THIS POINT. WE ARE ACTUALLY COMMITTED TO THOSE NAMES. WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM AS A AS A PARTNER. AND WE WILL HAVE ONE SECURITY OFFICER IN THE PARKING LOTS FOR EVERY 250 CARS. UM SO THAT IS THE BACKDROP? UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE BOB. I'M GONNA JUST CLARIFY A FEW THINGS. THE TRAFFIC UM TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS DONE. IT WAS BASED ON 25,000 CARS. I'M SORRY 25,000 SEAT ARENA VERSUS 20. SO WHAT WE HAVE IS 20% LESS THAN UM, WHAT THEY THEY'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED. WAS SUFFICIENT WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS

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THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED SO REASONABLE TO ASSUME IF IT IS SUFFICIENT FOR A 25,000 SEAT ARENA, THEN UM 20% LESS THAN THAT IS JUST A MUCH BETTER CONDITION. THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

IT'S GOING TO REDUCE THE TRAFFIC BY BY BY BY A QUARTER. I WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT IT LAST NIGHT. UM AND YESTERDAY THE CONCRETE WALL. THAT'S A HUGE MITIGATING FACTOR AND I AS SOMEONE IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS, I KNOW THAT I KNOW THE EXPENSE INVOLVED WITH THAT, NOT JUST ON THE WALL ITSELF, BUT THE FACT THAT YOU'RE CLOSING OFF, UH , NATURAL VENTILATION ON ONE SIDE OF A STRUCTURE THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE SOME OTHER VENTING AND OTHER EXPENSE. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT AND, UH APPRECIATE THAT IS A BIG A BIG AND GESTURE IN OUR DISCUSSION WITH OUR ACOUSTICIAN. HE HAD THAT LAYERED OUT AS A AS A TRADITIONAL PARKING LOT, AND WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WAS A PEDESTAL THAT WAS ADDED ON TO IT. THERE'S GOING TO BE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF CONCRETE THAT WILL MAKE UP THAT PARKING STRUCTURE ON THE EAST SIDE. THE ADDITION OF THAT WALL IS A IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT TO WHERE WE WERE ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THAT HAS CHANGED WHEN WE ORIGINALLY DESIGNED THE SITE, WE ACTUALLY HAD A LARGE MULTI SCALE PARKING GARAGE IN THAT NORTHERN LOT. AND AFTER SOME ELEMENT WE PUSHED PUSHED THAT DOWN AND BROUGHT PEDESTALS IN. WE FELT LIKE IT WAS MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING. IT WAS GOING TO BE EASIER TO DRAIN. IT WAS A LITTLE BIT LESS MONEY TO BUILD ON SO OVERALL, IT'S A IT'S A. IT'S A WIN WIN FOR US AND A WIN WIN FOR THE FOR THE COMMUNITY. QUESTIONS FOR BOB. UM ONE OF THE SPEAKER'S EARLIER BROUGHT UP THE FIREWORKS IN THE PICTURES, WHICH I NOTICED, BUT I NEVER REALLY THOUGHT OF NOW, UM YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IN ORDER TO HAVE FIREWORKS, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT IN OUR TOWN. TELL ME ABOUT WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE FOR FIREWORKS. WE HAVE NO SPECIFIC PLANS FOR FIREWORKS. WE HAVE EVERY INTENTION TO COLLABORATE FOR SPECIAL USE PERMITS AND WHENEVER IF THERE WERE TO BE A DESIRE TO HAVE A FIREWORK, UM UM , A SHOW WHICH SOME OF THESE SHOWS DO FROM TIME TO TIME, WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS SUITABLE TO THE COMMUNITY FROM A DAY OF THE WEEK AND WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO GET IT PERMITTED. IT'S JUST A STANDARD MODE OF OPERATION FOR US, OK? THANK YOU, UM THE SOMEONE ELSE BROUGHT UP THAT. WHY CAN'T WE PUT THIS ON BLOOM? DALE? UM THE REALITY IS THAT YOU ARE A PRIVATE COMPANY AND YOU CAN KIND OF GO WHERE YOU WANT WHERE YOU COME AGREEMENT WITH TO AGREEMENT WITH, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT OTHER SITES IN MCKINNEY WERE DISCUSSED WITH YOU. AND THIS IS THE SITE THAT YOU WANTED. THERE WASN'T REALLY A PLAN B FOR YOU AND MCKINNEY. IS THAT FAIR TO SAY IT IS FAIR TO SAY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AVAILABLE SITES THERE WERE IN THIS COURT OR THERE WERE SITES IN FRISCO, ALLEN AND MCKINNEY THAT WE DID SIGNIFICANT ASSESSMENT ON AND FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, PRIMARILY ITS LOCATION OF BEING ABLE TO TUCK IT IN AGAINST 75 AND 121, WHICH HAS SIGNIFICANT IMPLICATIONS BOTH TO SOUND ATTENUATION AND TO OUR ABILITY TO GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THAT LOCATION. YOU START THERE AND THEN YOU BEGIN TO WORK AND FIND OUT IF YOU HAVE A MUNICIPALITY THAT CAN BE A PARTNER. I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN IN SITUATIONS WHERE THE MUNICIPALITY JUST DIDN'T HAVE A DESIRE FOR THIS TYPE OF ASSET IN AND IN THE VISION IS HERE FOR THAT. IT WAS HERE BEFORE WE EVER GOT HERE FOR THIS SPECIFIC PIECE OF LAND, AND ALL OF THAT LINED UP TO SIT DOWN AND SAY, CAN WE WORK? CAN WE WORK OUT TERMS THAT WOULD BE SUITABLE TO US? WE LOVE THE SITE THAT WE'RE ON. WE LOVE IT. THANK YOU. THE NEXT THING IS THAT CAN WE GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWED THE SOUND IMPACT AT VARIOUS DIFFERENT PLACES. THANK YOU. THAT'S THE ONE THIS IS THIS WAS DONE WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE ROOF ON THE STRUCTURE THAT FROM EVERYONE I'VE TALKED TO, AND I'VE TALKED TO SOME SOUND PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU, BUT THEY KNOW A LOT ABOUT SOUND, AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THOSE RELATIONSHIPS, BUT THEY INDICATE THAT THE ROOF WILL MITIGATE THIS OR CERTAINLY SHOULD FURTHER AND I APPRECIATE, UM, THE CONCRETE WALL, BUT THE CONCRETE CRETE WALL SHOULD MITIGATE THIS ON SOME LEVELS. ARE YOU WILLING TO COMMIT TO A LOWER OVERALL NUMBER AT THESE LOCATIONS? GIVEN THOSE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE INCLUDE THE CONTRACT. I THINK THERE ARE TWO THINGS THERE, AND I'LL ADDRESS THEM BOTH IN THE TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS. ONE IS THIS 62 DB 64 DB 70 DB IS NOT WHAT WE'RE COMMITTING TO LEGALLY WE ARE COMMITTING TO WHAT WE CAN CONTROL AT THE FRONT OF HOUSE. WHAT SCIENCE HAS TOLD US IS GIVEN THE CONDITIONS THEY WERE GIVEN. THIS IS WHAT IT WILL BE THERE SO COMMITTING TO THAT LEVEL WHEN A MOTORCYCLE DRIVES BY WHEN I'VE GOT A SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA ON THE STAGE. I CAN'T I CAN'T CONTROL THAT SO HAVE TO. IF I'M GOING TO MAKE COMMITMENTS , IT HAS TO BE RELATED TO THE THINGS THAT, UM, I HAVE CONTROL OVER. WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE'VE APPLIED THE SCIENCE. I KNOW THAT

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THE CITY HAS HAD MULTIPLE PEOPLE LOOK AT IT FROM THE OUTSIDE IN. YOU CAN ASK THAT QUESTION OF THEM TO VALIDATE THE RESULTS THAT WE HAVE GIVEN. UH, THAT BEING SAID, UM YOU KNOW, I I'M GONNA I'M WILLING, SO I'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR POTENTIAL PARTNERS. AND THOSE POTENTIAL PARTNERS HAVE A FRAMEWORK WITH ARTISTS THAT AT SOME LEVEL MAKE THE FACILITY UNVIABLE. MEANING IF THEY CAN'T HIT A CERTAIN LEVEL, THEY CAN'T PROVIDE A GREAT CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE. WE ARE RIGHT AT THAT THRESHOLD. UH, WHAT I WOULD BE WILLING TO DO IS AT THE UH, FRONT OF HOUSE ON THE ON THE LTN IS DROP AT A DB, A WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN DO THAT. FRANKLY IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING OVER HERE. BUT WHAT YOU WOULD ANTICIPATE IT TO DO IS TO BRING THAT DOWN NATURALLY, IN ADDITION TO THE ROOF IN ADDITION TO THE WALL SO THERE WOULD BE THREE MITIGATING FACTORS. THAT IS NOT IN THAT CALCULATION THAT WE ARE WILLING TO SAY YES TO SO WITH SOME ARTISTS YOU WOULD COMMIT TO DROPPING IT TO 99 DB EIGHT. THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTAND, AND I, THAT'S NOT CORRECT. WHAT WE WOULD DO IS DROP THE LT FROM 105 TO 104 PERIOD. UH AND 990, THE L 90 WOULD BE WERE REMAIN AT 98.

THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, UM, THIS ISN'T REALLY NECESSARILY A QUESTION FOR YOU. THERE MAY BE ONE IN HERE AS I'M GOING THROUGH IT, BUT, UM YOU KNOW, LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS AND IT'S REAL AND WE SEE IT A LOT HERE ON CITY COUNCIL WHERE DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN. IT'S A CHANGE. IT'S A YOU KNOW, IT'S A MY CHEESE IS MOVING AND IT'S HARD AND THIS ONE'S A HARD ONE, MAN. I MEAN, THIS. THIS THE BUSINESS OF THIS ONE. IT SOUNDS RIGHT. WE HAD ONE TWO WEEKS AGO, WHERE IT WAS AN EVENT VENUE. NOW THEY WERE ABLE TO GET IT WITH THE CURRENT ZONING THEY HAD. BUT THE REALITY IS THAT AN EVENT VENUE CAN PRODUCE SOUND AS AN AMBIENT RESULT FROM WHAT IT'S DOING, BUT SOUND ISN'T THE BUSINESS AND THE SOUND IS THE BUSINESS HERE. SO UM, THE CITY IS GOING WITH A BIG FAITH ON THIS THING. AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS MENTIONED THAT SHE WAS 75 YEARS OLD AND, UM IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO MOVE AT THAT AGE AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRIKES ME AND SHE DIDN'T SAY IT. BUT YOU KNOW HER SCHOOL TAXES, WHICH ARE THE BIGGEST PART OF PROPERTY TAXES, AND IN TEXAS PROPERTY TAXES ARE THE BASICALLY THE BIGGEST TAX WE PAY, EXCEPT FOR FEDERAL INCOME TAX SOME OF US BUT YOU KNOW, THOSE GOT LOCKED IN FOR HER 10 YEARS AGO. IF SHE MOVED, SHE'D HAVE TO GET HIM LOCKED IN AGAIN AT THE AT THE CONTEMPORARY RATE. SO WHAT THAT DOES IS IT PUTS SOME LEVEL OF HANDCUFFS ON HER AND I MENTION ALL THIS TO SAY THAT THAT'S WHAT'S ON MY MIND.

AND YOU GUYS HAVE MENTIONED A NUMBER OF TIMES THAT YOU WANT TO BE GOOD PARTNERS AND YOU KNOW? MR LUC HERE. I'M CALLING YOU OUT. FORGIVE ME FOR THIS. BUT YOU KNOW YOU MENTIONED YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS DOESN'T WORK AND HERE'S I PLAYED THIS OUT A NUMBER OF TIMES OVER THE DAYS. WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS DOESN'T WORK IF OUR RESIDENTS IN SPITE OF THE MITIGATIONS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE GETTING A BAD EXPERIENCE FROM IT. UH, WILL YOU WORK WITH US? BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO MEAN TO SOME RETRO ENGINEERING FOR SOUND MITIGATION THAT I CAN'T ENFORCE.

BUT WOULD YOU WORK WITH US? I MEAN, PRIOR BEHAVIOR IS THE BEST INDICATION OF FUTURE BEHAVIOR.

AND I ASKED YOU GUYS YESTERDAY TO CONSIDER CONTACTING THE CITY OF COLORADO SPRINGS FROM THE MAYOR DOWN. CITY MANAGER, POLICE CHIEF UM GAINESVILLE, GEORGIA. BROKEN ARROW WHERE WE ARE WELL FARTHER ALONG THAN WE ARE HERE. WE WANT TO BE PARTNERS. THAT'S THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT WE ARE.

WE WILL BE PARTNERS AND I AM COMMITTED TO HAVING A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'LL TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER. AND, UM, THERE WAS SOME TESTIMONY HERE BEFORE THAT.

THAT WAS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO HEAR TO BE FRANK. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I WOULD NOT BE HERE.

IF I DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT THE SCIENCE THAT WE WERE BASING THIS ON WOULD RESULT IN THE NEGATIVE.

EXPERIENCES THAT ARE SOMETIMES ASSUMED ABSENT, HAVING EXPERIENCED IT BEFORE, AND I CAN SAY THAT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TO AMPHITHEATER ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES AND UNDERSTAND THE MITIGATION FACTORS AND HOW THEY CAN HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT AROUND US. SO MY ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, PATRICK IS ONE ASK THE STAFF ABOUT HOW WE'VE NEGOTIATED AND NAVIGATED TO THIS POINT. I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN EIGHT O'CLOCK LAST NIGHT, AND, UM UH, 130 THIS AFTERNOON WHERE LANGUAGE WAS DRAFTED AND CHANGED THAT OF SUBSTANCES INCORPORATING OUR OUR OUR SOUND. UM, WE PROBABLY ADDED A FEW MILLION DOLLARS OF EXPENSE. UM IN THE PAST 12 HOURS AND BECAUSE WE HEARD WHAT YOU SAID. WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS . I DON'T LIVE HERE. I'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE. LAST NIGHT. I UNDERSTOOD THE CONCERNS THAT WERE HERE AT THE DIAS. I UNDERSTOOD AND WE WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND OVERNIGHT HAD HOURS OF CONVERSATIONS WITH ARCHITECTS. SOUND PEOPLE AND PEOPLE THAT WILL PROGRAM IT TO MAKE SURE

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WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONTRACT THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THE ARTIST THAT WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO GET IN HERE AND I'VE DONE MY BEST. WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO OUR BEST. I HAVE. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE COMPANY TO ALIGN THOSE WITH PUBLIC INTEREST. OK, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I DO APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE. I REALLY DO. AND I FEEL LIKE THIS GRIND HAS RESULTED IN BETTERMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY. BUT I'M GOING TO TAKE WHAT YOU JUST SAID, AND FORGIVE ME, BUT I'M GONNA TAKE THAT AS A YES THAT IF WE FAST FORWARD THE COUPLE OF YEARS FROM TODAY WE HAVE PROBLEMS THROUGH ALL OF OUR GOOD FAITH THROUGH ALL THE WORK THROUGH ALL THE GOOD ADVICE MANIFEST THAT WE DIDN'T SEE THAT YOU'LL WORK WITH US ON THAT. I'M GONNA WORK WITH YOU. AT THE END OF THE DAY.

THERE IS THERE ARE BOUNDARIES THAT HAVE TO BE DEFINED BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BE LOOSE, SO WE ALWAYS HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE AGREE ON WHERE THE LINES ARE. MY COMMITMENT IS TO WORK AT WHATEVER LEVEL WE CAN POSSIBLY DO IT TO BE GREAT NEIGHBORS AND II. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A REMARK THEN THAT I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THE SOUND AND ABOUT THIS AND THAT AND I'M I'M I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT. YOU KNOW? IN MY EXPERIENCE SINCE 2018 WHEN I CAME ON THE ED C BOARD TO NOW, 2024 WE'VE WORKED HARD ON A LOT OF DEALS THAT JUST WENT POOF. I MEAN, MA'AM, WE WORK LIKE RENTED MULES ON THINGS THAT JUST WENT AWAY AND THERE'S A BILLION REASONS A DEAL CAN FAIL. AND THIS ONE. IN MY ESTIMATION, CAME TOGETHER PRETTY QUICKLY, CANDIDLY A LITTLE BIT MORE QUICKLY THAN I WANTED BECAUSE I'VE BECOME NOT AN EXPERT ON SOUND IN THE LAST WEEK, BUT AT LEAST I CAN HAVE A PRACTICAL CONVERSATION WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE ON IT. BUT UM, THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR MCKINNEY, AND I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING YOU AS A PARTNER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. MR ROAD. YOU YOU HAD MENTIONED THE ON SITE AT THE EDGE OF PROPERTY MONITORS. WHAT IS THE PURPOSE? WHAT DO WE IN TERMS OF TO PROVIDE REPORTING, UH OVER THINGS THAT I CAN CONTROL. AND THEY DO DO REPORTING. YOU KNOW, WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE AN ANNUAL REPORTING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE COMPLIANCE TOO. AND YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS, WE GOTTA HAVE INFORMATION. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. RIGHT, UM THANK YOU FOR COMING PRESENTING TO US TODAY. I YOU KNOW A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, YOU ONLY HEAR THE NEGATIVITY THAT COMES OUT ON THE PROJECT AND WHEN I LIKE TO SAY WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN A MATTER OF HOURS, YOU KNOW, WITH ADDING THE WALL AND LISTENING TO US. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S EXCEPTIONAL. AND WHAT PEOPLE DON'T EVEN TALK ABOUT. LIKE WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOUND HERE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING 45 TO 50 SHOWS.

THERE'S YOU KNOW, THERE'S ANOTHER 315 DAYS OUT OF THE YEAR WITH THE STRUCTURE AND THE PARKING GARAGE RIGHT THERE. I MEAN, A LOT OF THE COMMENTS YESTERDAY IN WORK SESSION WAS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE NOISE FROM HIGHWAY 75 THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. THIS MITIGATES SOME OF THAT NOISE, UM, AUTOMATICALLY, AND SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY PROVIDING A BENEFIT FOR 315 DAYS OUT OF THE YEAR WHERE YOUR SOUND QUALITY IS GONNA IS GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, LESS. WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW, SO I JUST THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT FROM THE OTHER SIDE. YOU KNOW WE HAVE 50 SHOWS A YEAR. BUT WE HAVE 315 DAYS THAT THEY'RE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SITE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO LIVE WITH, AND ENJOY. UH, MOST OF THE YEAR. I WANNA I WANNA SAY BOB, NUMBER ONE. THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE EXHIBITED A GOOD PARTNERSHIP. UM YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO COMMIT TO THE WALL. AND I THANK YOU. I THINK YOU PROBABLY FELT BASED ON DIALOGUE HERE. I'LL BE VERY CANDID, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, AFTER YESTERDAY YOU PROBABLY HAD A PRETTY GOOD INDICATION THAT MURPHY IF YOU WERE A BETTING MAN THAT THIS WAS GOING TO PASS, JUST BASED ON THE DIALOGUE AND ALL THE IN DEPTH CONVERSATION WE HAD IN THE FEEDBACK YOU HEARD WOULD BE MY GUESS THAT YOU FELT IT WOULD PASS. UM AT LEAST THERE WAS ENOUGH OF A MARGIN THAT IT WOULD SO WITH THAT. YOU STILL AGREED. THE CONCRETE WALL DOWN THE ENTIRE EAST EASTERN BORDER. THAT TO ME TALK ABOUT. UM YOU MADE THE COMMENT THAT YOU CAN, UH, PREDICT SOMEBODY'S BEHAVIOR IN THE FUTURE BASED ON PAST WELL AS A BUSINESS GUY CONSTRUCTION GUY AGAIN. YOU MADE A DECISION LAST NIGHT. NOT BECAUSE SHE FELT IT WAS GOING TO BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN APPROVAL AND NOT APPROVAL IS MY GUESS.

ANYWAY. I CANNOT SPEAK FOR WHAT YOU WERE THINKING. BUT, UM BUT SHE DID THAT BECAUSE I THINK YOU HAVE A GENUINE DESIRE TO BE THAT PART OF YOU ARE AND I WANT TO SAY ONE OTHER THING BECAUSE THE COMMENT WAS MADE. UM AND IT WAS I TOOK IT PERSONAL. NOT ABOUT ME . BUT SOMEONE I'VE COME TO KNOW VERY WELL, UM JW ROTH. WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF ROT INDUSTRIES IS A PROPER NAME. UM BUT AS YOU STATED, THE THIRD LARGEST IN THE COUNTRY IN THE IN THE BUSINESS THAT HE HAS, UM AND HE'S A, UH

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HE IS A VERY SUCCESSFUL ENTREPRENEUR, SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN. AND ALTHOUGH THE STATEMENT IS CORRECT THAT IT WAS, I THINK ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO THAT HE DECIDED TO GET INTO THIS THIS BUSINESS. UM ONE WAY TO LOOK AT THAT IS JUST TO THROW MUD AT THAT AND CALL THEM INEXPERIENCED, AND MCKINNEY DOESN'T DESERVE THAT. I WOULD SAY VERY DIFFERENTLY. I WOULD SAY THAT THAT JW HAS PROVEN AND EVERYTHING THEY'VE BUILT TO DATE AND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING HERE THAT THEY ARE AN INNOVATOR IN A DISRUPTOR OF THE INDUSTRY IN A POSITIVE WAY. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE SEATS GOING FROM 18 TO 23 INCHES, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A 25% INCREASE OR DECREASE IN CAPACITY BECAUSE YOU INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE SHEEP INCREASE RESTROOMS 50% FROM A NORMAL AND WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ENHANCE THAT EXPERIENCE. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT CHANGE THE GAME AND LIFTS THE BAR. UM THAT RIGHT NOW IT SETS THE BAR AT A NEW LEVEL. THAT'S A DISRUPTOR IN A VERY POSITIVE WAY AND AN INNOVATOR AND THAT'S SOMETHING I ACTUALLY CELEBRATE. I DON'T LOOK AT THAT AS A NEGATIVE AND THINK THAT MCKINNEY IS GETTING A SUBSTANDARD, UM, EXPERIENCE AND THE FACT THAT THEIR PARTNERSHIP AND THE OPERATING OPERATING PART AND THE ROUNDING PARTNER IS LIVE NATION. THOSE ARE THE TOP IN THE INDUSTRY. THAT IS THE MOST EXPERIENCE COULD GET THE MOST HISTORICAL SUCCESS THAT YOU COULD GET, UM IN IN AN IN AN OPERATING, UH, ROUTING COMPANY.

SO UM, I TOOK A BIT OF OFFENSE TO A COMMENT THAT WAS MADE ABOUT THAT AND ABOUT JW AND IMPLYING THAT THAT THIS WAS SOMEHOW INFERIOR WHAT MCKINNEY WAS GETTING II. I WANT TO SAY VERY PUBLIC. I FEEL THAT WHAT WE'RE GETTING IS THE ABSOLUTE BEST. OF ITS KIND IN THIS INDUSTRY. AND THE FACT THAT IT'S SOMEBODY THAT STARTED, UM, GOT INTO THIS BUSINESS EIGHT YEARS AGO. DON'T CARE IF HE WAS IN THE BUSINESS EIGHT YEARS AGO, 100 YEARS AGO OR A DAY AGO. HE'S LEADING WITH SOMETHING THAT IS SETTING THE BAR SO MUCH HIGHER AND THIS COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE THE RECIPIENT AND HOME IS MY HOPE OE WITH YOU, MAYOR AND I WILL GO ON TO SAY THAT. WE ARE. WE ARE JUST GETTING STARTED. AND UH, THE CROWN JEWEL OF THEM WILL BE MCKINNEY. UM WE HAVE 1,032,012.

THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS TODAY. THIS WILL BE LARGER. UH, WE'VE COME TO A GREAT METROPOLITAN CITY THAT FRANKLY IS UNDERSERVED AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT. UM, THE OTHER PIECE THAT I'LL SAY IS, YOU KNOW , SOME FOLKS CAN SEE IT ONCE THEY CAN EXPERIENCE WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE. I WILL SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT SOUND AND TRAFFIC. UH, I I'VE GOT ONE OF THESE VENUES IN MY HOMETOWN OF GAINESVILLE. GE. IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT SET OF HURDLES TO GET TO THAT POINT, AND, UH, THE FOLKS THAT WERE AGAINST IT I SEE IN THE HALL VERY, VERY REGULARLY. AND SO IT'S UH, IT'S A GOOD EXPERIENCE TO GO UP AND SAY HELLO TO HIM TO TALK IT THROUGH TO, UM, TO CONSIDER WHAT HAPPENED TO GET US TO THE POINT THAT WE ARE TO PROVIDE A PREMIUM HOSPITALITY EXPERIENCE AND LIFT THE TIDE OF A CITY. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING HERE. CHARLIE HAD, MR MUDD, UM FIRST I WANNA THANK YOU FOR NOT REFERRING TO MCKINNEY AS A SUBURB. I AND I DIDN'T DO THAT. DID I? GOOD MED FOR POLITICS CITY AND I'M FINE WITH THAT, UH, YESTERDAY A LOT OF THESE FOLKS WEREN'T HERE. BUT I ASKED FOR ONE COMMITMENT FROM YOU KNOWING THAT WE'RE VERY EARLY ON IN THE DESIGN PROCESS, AND THAT WAS THAT YOU WOULD CONTINUE TO WORK WITH US LAST NIGHT. I GOT IN TOUCH WITH YOU. A NEW PROVIDED ME WITH A CONTACT TO YOUR ARCHITECT, AND I SPENT A GOOD BIT OF TIME ON THE PHONE WITH HIM EARLY THIS MORNING.

YESTERDAY I HAD THE LEAST CONCERNS ABOUT SOUND MITIGATION OF ANYONE SITTING UP HERE, AND I HAVE EVEN LESS NOW, AND I WANT YOUR NEIGHBORS WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT AND WHO WERE HERE LAST NIGHT TO KNOW THAT IT WAS A GOOD FAITH EFFORT, AND IT WAS SOME MAJOR DESIGN DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE. AND MY PRIMARY CONCERN IN DISCUSSING THIS WITH THE ARCHITECT WAS THE EAST SIDE AND YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS. UH AND I WAS ASSURED THAT THEY ARE GOING TO WORK WITH US. THEY'VE MADE ADDITIONS. THEY'VE MADE DESIGN CHANGES. AND YOU GUYS, YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE AND I BELIEVE IN FACT, IT WILL BE ENRICHED BY THIS EXPERIENCE. AND MR MUDD, I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR YOUR GOOD FAITH EFFORTS TO WORK. THANK YOU. JUST GOING TO SAY I MOVED HERE IN 2011. 2011 AND IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WERE THE ONLY NEIGHBORHOOD THERE. THERE WAS NOTHING NORTH SOUTH EAST OR WEST OF US. IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME. WE NOW HAVE SOMETHING NORTH SOUTH EAST AND WEST OF US. UM THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT DROPS IN PROPERTY VALUES WHEN THERE WAS A SENIOR LIVING MULTIFAMILY THAT WENT UP ACROSS THE STREET AND TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT JUST TO THE NORTH OF US AND A NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, JUST TO THE SOUTH OF US. THERE WAS CONCERNS

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ABOUT CRIME, AND I THINK EVERY TIME WE HEAR ABOUT A NEW DEVELOPMENT, THESE ARE ALL THE SAME QUESTIONS THAT COME UP. UM IS THE TRAFFIC HEAVIER? IT IS, IS IT AS MUCH OF AN INCONVENIENCE THAT I WOULD WANT TO MOVE FROM? MCKINNEY? ABSOLUTELY NOT. WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS WE'RE IN A PLACE WHERE IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW. WE ARE GOING TO SEE PEOPLE COMING IN MORE DEVELOPMENT. BUT I THINK THAT THE CITY HAS DONE A GREAT JOB IN KEEPING IT MCKINNEY . STILL EVEN WITH THAT AMOUNT OF GROWTH, AND I THINK THAT WITH ALL OF THE EFFORTS THAT YOU PUT UP IN JUST A 24 HOUR PERIOD OF TIME, IT PROVES TO US THAT YOU'RE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. THAT YOU'RE A GOOD PARTNER IN THIS PROJECT. I'M EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S COMING. WILL IT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE TRAFFIC AT TIMES? YES. HAVE WE SEEN CRIME RATES INCREASE IN MCKINNEY? NO NOT IN SEVEN YEARS, EVEN WITH ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'VE SEEN UM WILL PROPERTY VALUES GO DOWN? WE HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT PROPERTY VALUES WILL GO DOWN. SO I, I THINK FOR US THAT ARE UP HERE MAKING THIS DECISION AND IT IS NOT AN EASY THING THAT WE'VE DONE. THIS HAS BEEN MONTHS OF TALKING AND A LOT OF REALLY GREAT WORK BY OUR STAFF. WE WOULD NOT BE MAKING THIS DECISION. IF WE REALLY FELT THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A HUGE ISSUE. A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY. WE ARE MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IT WILL BE A POSITIVE. SO I WANNA JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF HAVE DONE TO PUT THIS TOGETHER. I WANT TO SAY ONE OTHER THING, UM I JUST WANNA SAY IT TO PATRICK AND JUSTIN, PRIMARILY UM AND PATRICK. UH, MADE A REMARK SIMILAR TO THIS, BUT I WILL SAY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UM I WAS I HAVE BEEN LEAST CONCERNED. AND NOISE MITIGATION. A LOT OF THAT IS JUST BECAUSE OF THE INDUSTRY THAT I'VE I'VE BEEN IN, CONTINUE TO BE IN IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY AND SOUND AND ESPECIALLY PREVIOUS LIFE OF SOUND COMPANY ON AND ON. AND I KNOWING THE TECHNOLOGY I, I HAD THE LEAST CONCERN. UM, BUT WITHOUT THE WITHOUT ALL THE DIALOGUE THAT WE'VE HAD, UM, THERE PROBABLY ARE NOT PROBABLY THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ADDED THIS CONCRETE WALL SO THAT THE NING OF THE TEETH THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN ON THE SOUND DID AS YOU STATED, AND I JUST WANT TO STATE IT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. UM ABS ABSOLUTELY PRODUCE RESULTS THAT ARE BENEFICIARY BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY, SO I WANNA ON THAT. THANK YOU, SIR. NORMALLY I WOULD ASK IF THERE IS A DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT BEFORE? ARE YOU NORMALLY BEEN ASKED TO MAKE A IF SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS ITEM. A SECOND. CASTRO VOTES. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. COUNCIL. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. UM, NEXT ITEM, UH,

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “AG” - Agriculture District and “HC” - Highway Commercial Overlay District to “C3” - Regional Commercial District, “MF30” - Multi-Family Residential District, and “HC” - Highway Commercial Overlay District, Located Approximately 450 Feet East of Terry Lane and on the South Side of West University Drive, and Accompanying Ordinance]

CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ACT ON A REQUEST TO REZONE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM AGRICULTURE DISTRICT AND HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL OVERLAY DISTRICT TO C THREE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT MF 30 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT IN HC HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL OVERLAY DISTRICT, LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 450 FT EAST OF CHERRY LANE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEST UNIVERSAL THAT JENNIFER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. JENNIFER ARNOLD, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING. OK? HAVE JUST A FEW MINUTES FOR EVERYBODY TO NO. SO AS YOU READ, THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHICH IS CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURAL, UM TO, UH, TO SPLIT ZONING DISTRICTS. UM THE OVERALL TRACK IS ABOUT 37 ACRES IN SIZE. UM, WITH THE REQUEST TO THE APPLICANT IS ACTUALLY PROPOSING TO REZONE, UH, THE FRONT FIVE ACRES OF THE PROPERTY ALONG A U S3 80 TO THE C THREE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT AND THE REAR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY ABOUT 32 ACRES TO THE MF 30. MY FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT. SO WHEN STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST, WE DID, UH, RECOGNIZE THAT LET'S SEE. THERE WE GO. WE CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN HERE. ACTUALLY I'LL DRAW IT UP. SO THAT'S THE C THREE. AND THIS HERE WOULD BE THE MF 30. UM, WHEN WE REVIEWED, UH, THE REQUEST WE DID NOTE, UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THIS AREA AND WE DO FEEL AS THOUGH THE REQUEST ALIGNS WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PLACE TYPE DESIGNATION. WE APPRECIATED THAT THE COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE WAS RETAINED AND WHAT YOU'LL KIND OF SEE ON THAT EXHIBIT IS THE DEPTH OF THAT COMMERCIAL. UH PRETTY MUCH ALIGNS WITH A LOT OF THE DEPTH THAT WE'RE SEEING ALONG THE COMMERCIAL IN THAT AREA, UM TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY IS AN EXISTING, UM OR IT'S ACTUALLY UNDERDEVELOPMENT MULTIFAMILY PROJECT AS WELL WITH THE F 30 ZONING DISTRICT. WE DID GET SOME, UM LETTERS OF OPPOSITION, AND THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS RAISED AT THE PLANNING

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AND ZONING COMMISSION, PREDOMINANTLY FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH . UH, THE BIGGEST CONCERNS WERE, HOW WAS THAT MULTIFAMILY GOING TO TRANSITION FROM THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE DEVELOPMENT? I DID WANT A PROACTIVELY, UH, MAKE SOME COMMENTS IN THAT REGARD. SO WITH THE MF 30 ZONING DISTRICT, THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS 55 FT, HOWEVER, BECAUSE IT SHARES A BOUNDARY WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. WE DO HAVE SOME ADJACENCY STANDARDS THAT ARE IN PLACE, SO IF IT IS A TWO STORY BUILDING, IT HAS A STANDARD FIVE A 50 FT SETBACK. IF IT IS A THREE STORY BUILDING, IT IS REQUIRED 2 FT. OF SETBACK FOR EVERY FOOT IN HEIGHT, SO THREE STORY BUILDINGS TYPICALLY 45 FT. THAT WOULD BE A 90 FT. SETBACK UM, AND THEN, IF IT IS A FOUR STORY BUILDING, UM, WHICH IS A TYPICAL HEIGHT OF ABOUT 55 FT. IT WOULD REQUIRE A FOOT SET BACK FOR EVERY FOOT IN HEIGHT, WHICH WOULD BE A BUILDING SETBACK OF ABOUT 100 AND 65 FT FROM THAT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH, AND QUITE FRANKLY, THAT IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SEE ON THIS MULTIFAMILY PROJECT HERE AS WELL. THEY'VE GOT ABOUT, UH, A VERY SIMILAR, UM, SORT OF STEP BACK AND STEP BACK FROM THE PROPERTY IS JUST A THREE STORY FOUR STORY, JENNIFER. SORRY THE PD, UH TO THE EAST IS A MIX OF THREE AND TWO STORY THE MF 30 ZONING DISTRICT. ALLOW UP TO, UH FOUR STORIES, OR 55 FT, BUT THOSE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY STANDARDS WOULD BE IN PLACE. UM SO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CONSIDERED THE ITEM AT THEIR LAST MEETING AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL STAFF IS ALSO RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AGAIN . WE DO FIND THAT IT ALIGNS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UM AND WE ALSO NOTE THAT THIS AREA IS A HIGHLY DEVELOPING REALLY DENSE AREA WITH A LOT OF THE COMMERCIAL HAPPENING AT HARDEN AND 380. THE TRANSITION FROM COMMERCIAL DOWN TO SINGLE FAMILY , UM, SEEMS APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA. I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANTS HERE AS WELL. QUESTIONS FOR JENNIFER. JENNIFER IS THAT THAT IS THAT FLOODPLAIN THERE GOING THROUGH ON THE EAST SIDE THAT LIKE A CREEK OR RIGHT THROUGH HERE. WHAT IS THAT RIGHT THROUGH HERE OR RIGHT THROUGH HERE. YOU WERE RIGHT THROUGH THERE WHERE YOU WERE AT THIS ONE. HERE UM, I BELIEVE IT IS AND II. I DON'T KNOW, BOB, YOU MIGHT KNOW. I BELIEVE THAT IT IS. YOU HAVE TO GO NORTH OF THAT, RIGHT? THEY COULD BUILD AROUND IT. UM AND I DEFER TO THE APPLICANT ON ANY DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT THEY'VE LOOKED AT THUS FAR. IN JUNE FOR ONE OTHER QUESTION IF YOU'RE DONE, MICHAEL IS, UH IT IT IT'S C THREE RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? IT'S AG RIGHT NOW. OK BUT WHAT IS WHERE DOES C THREE COME INTO PLAY? SO ALONG THE FRONTAGE, SO RIGHT NOW, THE FULL TRACT IS AGRICULTURE. UM BUT THE FIVE ACRES ALONG THE FRONTAGE RIGHT THROUGH HERE WOULD GET THAT C THREE COMMERCIAL ZONING. GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT C THREE MIGHT LOOK LIKE IT COULD BE, UM, DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS. IT COULD BE SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS. IT COULD BE, UM A BANK. IT COULD BE A STRIP CENTER THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, A KIND OF A MIX OF DIFFERENT USES. SO IT IS. I WILL TELL YOU. IT IS THE MOST PERMISSIVE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT THAT WE HAVE. UM HOWEVER, IT IS LIMITED TO COMMERCIAL USES, SO IT WOULD BE SOMETHING COMMISERATED WITH WHAT YOU SEE ALONG, UM 380 RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF COMMERCIAL USES IS THE IS THE C THREE. ACROSS THE STREET TO I BELIEVE IT IS YES. BE NOT. MAP REAL QUICK. RIGHT? THANK YOU, MA'AM. THE APPLICANT HERE. SEEN. NOBODY WILL. MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE APPLICANT. YEAH. MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. I'M BOB RODER 1700 RED BUD SUITE 300 IN MCKINNEY ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. THE STAFF REPORT. I KNOW YOU'VE ALL READ IT CONSIDERED IT, UM IN TERMS OF THE PLACE TYPE IN TERMS OF THE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE MASTER PLAN, THE CITY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ALL THAT WE FIT IN THERE VERY, VERY SQUARELY. UH JENNIFER STOWE. PART OF MY, UH, DIALOGUE ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE THINK MITIGATE THE ADJACENCY FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH. I WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND OTHER OF MY COLLEAGUES DID THAT, BUT I DID NOT LISTEN TO THE COMMENTS AND WHATNOT. UH, UH, MICHAEL, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. THAT IS A THAT'S A CREEK OR A DRAW THAT GOES THROUGH THERE. THERE IS CURRENTLY A SANITARY SEWER LINE THAT'S IN PLACE THERE THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE IN PART TO SERVE THE MULTIFAMILY THAT IS TO THE EAST. THAT IS ALSO A DEDICATED DRAINAGE WAY TO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. IT CAN BE CROSSED ITS WATERS OF THE US. IT CAN BE CROSSED, BUT IT WOULD REQUIRE GOING THROUGH THE 404 PERMITS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. I DO

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NOT WANT TO MISLEAD ANYBODY THAT THERE WOULD BE NO DEVELOPMENT IN THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER. THERE PROBABLY WILL BE A CONTINUATION OF WHATEVER IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT DRAW, BUT, UH, BUT THAT IS NOW I KNOW. ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS SOME EXISTING TREES ALONG THAT COMMON BOUNDARY LINE.

YOU ARE ALL AWARE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR TRIP PRESERVATION. ORDINANCE A REQUIREMENT THAT IF THERE IS A QUALITY TREE OF SIX INCHES CALIBER OR GREATER WITHIN 15 FT OF THE PROPERTY LINE ON EITHER SIDE, WE ARE REQUIRED TO PUT A TREE PRESERVATION ZONE AROUND THAT THAT IS BASICALLY A 15 FT DIAMETER OR 15 FT RADIUS FROM THE CENTER OF WHEREVER THAT TREE TRUNK IS, SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE ARE TREES IN THAT AREA THAT FALL WITHIN THAT 15 FT FOOT SETBACK, WE BE REQUIRED TO RETAIN THOSE TREES. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WITH A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT, AS YOU'RE AWARE, YOUR ORDINANCE REQUIRES A MASONRY WALL AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY, AND ALONG WITH THAT MASONRY WALL, YOU HAVE TO PLANT CANOPY TREES. UH UH, ON 30 FT CENTERS TOGETHER WITH A PLANTING BED THAT HAS SHRUBS AND OTHER STUFF. SO THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE TREES THERE THAN THERE ARE TODAY THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SUPPLEMENT THAT WALL THAT THE CITY REQUIRES BE PUT IN. IT IS POSSIBLE WHEN WE GET OVER IN THE SOUTHEAST, THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS PREDOMINANTLY IN FLOODPLAIN, YOU'LL NOTICE THE LOTS ON THE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE SOUTH. SORT OF CURVE. UH, THEY DON'T GO ALL THE WAY UP TO THE PROPERTY LINE THERE. THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S A FLOODPLAIN AREA. THAT'S AN OPEN SPACE AREA. THE CITY OWNS SOME LAND TO THE SOUTHWEST CORNER.

UH, WE CAN'T PARDON ME. WE ARE UNABLE TO TAKE OUT MOST OF THE TREES IN THE FLOODPLAIN SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE CITY'S ORDINANCE, NOR WOULD WE WANT TO THAT IT IS NOT MUCH SENSE. IT MAKES MUCH SENSE. BUT THERE ARE TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'VE GOT GOOD TREE COVER IN THAT SOUTHWEST CORNER.

IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD GET, UH AT A SITE AT THE SITE PLAN STAGE A WAIVER FROM PUTTING IN A MASONRY WALL THERE AND INSTEAD PUT IN A TUBULAR WALL WITH MASONRY COLUMNS AND THE LANDSCAPE ON TUBULAR SIDE. SO WE HAVE A 6 FT, UH, COMPLETELY OPAQUE SCREEN THERE, SO I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO MISLEAD YOU THAT YOU DIDN'T SEE 100% MASONRY THERE, BUT CLEARLY WHERE THE NEIGHBORS ARE. THAT WOULD BE A 6 TO 8 FT. MASONRY WALL IN THAT LOCATION. UM I THINK IN ADDITION , I WANT TO JUST REITERATE TO JENNIFER'S COMMENT ABOUT THE ADJACENCY REQUIREMENTS, EVEN THOUGH THE STANDARD ZONING WOULD ALLOW FOUR STORIES. ADJACENCY REQUIREMENTS OVERRIDE THAT ABILITY. AND IF THERE IS A FOUR STORY PLAN IN THAT IN THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER, THE CLOSEST BUILDING WOULD BE 100 AND 65 FT NOT FROM THE RESIDENCE BUT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. AND SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT A FOOTBALL FIELD THAT'S PAST THE 50 YARD LINE, RIGHT, SO THAT'S A THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD WAY. THERE'S ANOTHER REQUIREMENT OF ADJACENCY THAT JENNIFER DIDN'T BRING UP AND THAT IS IF WE'RE WITHIN 150 FEE. A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. WE CANNOT HAVE A WINDOW THAT FACES THAT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, SO THERE ARE TWO PROTECTIONS THERE FROM THE RESIDENTS TO THE SOUTH.

UM THERE WILL BE NO CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC. THERE'S NO OPENING TO GET INTO THAT DEVELOPMENT DOWN THERE. THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE TO THIS PROPERTY WILL BE OFF OF 380 THROUGH THAT COMMERCIAL AREA.

THERE IS A SECONDARY ENTRANCE THAT WAS REQUIRED BY PLATT IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER WHERE THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION IS GOING IN, SO THAT WILL BE AN EMERGENCY ACCESS POINT. THE DIRECT ACCESS WILL BE ON AND OFF 380. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ADDRESS WAS THE COMMENTS THAT I HAVE SEEN ABOUT IT INCREASED TRAFFIC. THAT GI. I WISH WE HAD THE SOLUTION TO 380 ALREADY ON THE GROUND, BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW IS A THING WE CANNOT CONTROL, AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY INCREASED BECAUSE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN MCKINNEY BECAUSE THAT'S A US HIGHWAY THAT EVERYBODY OUTSIDE OF MCKINNEY USES TOO. AND SO WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT. BUT YOU DO HAVE AT THE SITE PLAN LEVEL THE CONTROLS THAT IF WE NEED TO PUT IN SOME DECELERATION LANES OR ACCELERATION LANES ON ON THIS PROPERTY IF WE NEED TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE INTERSECTIONS IN ORDER TO HELP MOVE TRAFFIC THROUGH CITY HAS A RIGHT TO REQUIRE THOSE I COULD DESAL EXCEL LINES DO NOT THINK THE INTERSECTION REQUIREMENTS WILL HAPPEN, BUT THAT'S ALL A

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TRAFFIC STUDY THAT COULD BE REQUIRED AT THAT TIME. UM AND I GUESS THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS IT'S PO. IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE THAT THERE'LL BE LESS TRAFFIC GENERATED BY MULTIFAMILY PROJECT AND THERE WERE IF THIS WAS MUCH MORE DENSE COMMERCIAL PROJECTS. UH YOU HAVE HEARD THIS STORY ENOUGH AND SEEN ENOUGH STATISTICS TO KNOW THAT THAT SORT OF THE CASE I WILL STOP THERE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND WOULD REQUEST YOUR FAVORABLE APPROVAL OF THIS ZONING. QUESTIONS FOR UP TO THE WEST OF YOUR PROPERTY. THE FLOODPLAIN CREEK WAY. IS THAT ALL FLOODPLAIN OR IS THAT WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THE DAM? JUST AN YOU CAN SEE ON THE FLOODPLAIN LINE. AND SO AT LEAST THE SOUTH WEST QUADRANT IS VERY WIDE FLOOD PLAIN, BUT BECAUSE OF THAT CREEK SYSTEM IN THERE, UH THE THERE'S MAINLY ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE WOULD BE FLOODPLAIN. MOST OF IT IS ON THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST. FROM THE STANDPOINT OF BEING BELOW A DAM AND HAVING A DAM BREACH ANALYSIS. UH, OF COURSE, THAT IS SOMETHING AGAIN THAT WE'D HAVE TO DO AT THE PLANNING STAGE, AND IF THE DAM BREACH ANALYSIS EXTENDED OVER INTO THIS PROPERTY, HE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD ANYTHING IN THAT AREA. AT THIS LEVEL, THOSE STUDIES HAVE NOT BEEN DONE. QUICK QUESTION. THE DAM THAT MR BELLER IS TALKING ABOUT THAT HAS BEEN REHABBED, HADN'T IT? IT HAS. IT HAS. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S A MITIGATING FACTOR IN THAT DAM BREACH STUDY. I WISH I COULD TELL YOU MORE ABOUT IT, BUT I DON'T HAVE AN ENGINEERING DEGREE, SO I'D BE MALPRACTICING.

QUESTIONS, SO I HAVE HEARD US TALK IN ALL OF IT HAS BEEN TALK ABOUT ULTIMATELY WE ARE TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO UM, BRING ABOUT POOR OWNERSHIP PRODUCT. UM AND ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING THAT IS AN AREA WHERE WE'RE WILLING TO GIVE UP. DENSITY WE ARE WILLING TO GIVE UP. UM OR WE WERE WERE EXPECTING UNIT SIZES TO BE SMALLER THAN IT. SOLD ON THE MARKET TODAY. AND WHERE THERE IS A QUALITY PROPERTY WHERE INDIVIDUALS WOULD HAVE A DESIRE TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT THAT WE SHOULD SEEK SOME SORT OF THAT EFFORTS TO BRING ABOUT FOR OWNERSHIP PRODUCT IN THOSE AREAS. AND I SAY THAT A LOT IN AN APARTMENT BUILDING. YOU'RE GIVING UP DENSITY. YOU EXPECTED UNIT SIZES ARE PROBABLY 12 TO 1800 SQUARE FEET. UM OR OR LESS, UM, AND IF WE HAD THAT SAME STRUCTURE AND IN A IN A PROPERTY LIKE THIS, WHERE YOU BUILD IT FOR 250 OR $300,000 A DOOR THAT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT FOR A YOUNG FAMILY OR UM AND I. I KNOW THAT'S A DIFFICULT LIFT, AND THAT'S NOT A PRODUCT THAT EXISTS OUT THERE. BUT I GUESS FROM THE STANDPOINT OF LOOKING AT THIS PROPERTY I DON'T SEE SOME OF THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT I WOULD LOOK FOR IN A TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD BE MAYBE PROXIMITY TO AN INTERSECTION THAT CANNOT ABSORB SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC, OR MAYBE LESS. UM VALUABLE FOR INVESTMENT , OR WE REZONED ONE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO THAT WAS IN PROXIMITY TO HIGH LINE WIRES AND OTHER UTILITY EASEMENTS THAT MADE IT HARD TO DEVELOP ON AND MAY HAVE. PREVENTED SOME SORT OF INDIVIDUAL HOME INVESTMENT, BUT I GUESS I'M I'M NOT NECESSARILY ASKING THAT YOU SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, BUT THIS SEEMS LIKE A GOOD PIECE OF PROPERTY. OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF USE. AND THE REASON FOR I GUESS MY UM. NOT MY UNDERSTANDING. BUT BUT MY THEORIES ON THE REASON WHY WE WOULD END UP DOING THIS MULTIFAMILY IS BECAUSE YOU LOSE A FAIR AMOUNT OF LAND. AND THAT MAKES THIS LAND MORE EXPENSIVE AND MULTIFAMILY. WHAT'S GOING TO COVER IT AND WE DON'T HAVE AN INFRASTRUCTURE GOAL HERE. WE DON'T HAVE A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT WE MAY HAVE IN OTHER AREAS, AND SO ARE WE JUST UM PROPPING UP LAND VALUES. BECAUSE MULTIFAMILY HAS BEEN AVAILABLE IN THE PAST. RATHER THAN SEEKING OUT THOSE POOR OWNERSHIP INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT

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WERE NOT ABLE TO GET IN SOME OTHER WAY. MISTER BELL, ARE YOU AND I HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. YOU KNOW THAT I AM COMMITTED TO HELPING WORK ON TO THE EXTENT THAT I HAVE ANY TALENT IN DOING THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN MCKINNEY. AND AS I HAVE MAINTAINED IN OUR DISCUSSIONS, THE CITY HAS TO GET AHEAD OF THE TRANSACTIONS IN ORDER TO DO THAT. WE'VE GOT TO GO FIND LAND THAT'S NOT ON THE MARKET FOR SALE AND TALKED TO THE OWNER ABOUT CUTTING A DEAL WITH US BECAUSE BY THE TIME THE LAND GETS INTO THE MARKETPLACE WERE STUCK WITH THE COMPARABLE SALES COMPARABLE USES AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF. I DON'T DISAGREE THAT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PROPERTY FOR MANY HOUSES OR THAT THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT BY THE TIME WE GOT THROUGH THAT EXERCISE WITHOUT ANY CERTAINTY COMING OUT OF THE BACK END YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO FIND AN INVESTOR OR USER THAT COULD COULD STAY WITH THAT GAME. WE'VE GOT TO CREATE THAT OPPORTUNITY AT THE FRONT END. AND I'M HAPPY PERSONALLY TO HELP WITH THAT LIFT, BUT WE GOT TO GET THOSE MODELS IN PLACE. AND THEN I WOULD AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH WITH YOUR POSITION. THERE. THERE IS A COMPONENT OF IT THAT MORE. WE END UP ZONING IN THESE WAYS THAT WE KEEP THE LAND VALUE ELEVATED, AND THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR THE LAND INVESTORS OUT THERE BUT YOU KNOW, UH, BUT CAN I KNOW THIS ONE'S GOT A UNIQUE SITUATION WITH YOU KNOW ALL THE T ISSUES, BUT WE'RE QUITE CANDIDLY. TODAY WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD ALTERNATIVE TO MULTIFAMILY IF WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY CAN GET INTO FOR. 1500 OR 1700 OR $1800 A MONTH. SO I MEAN, I GUESS IN FROM ONE PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE HELPING SOLVE THAT PROBLEM FROM ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE. WERE AM NOT GOING TO SAY EXACERBATING, BUT WE ARE NOT SO YEAH. GREAT DIALOGUE. DID SOME MORE. THE OTHER QUESTIONS. THIS IS MY DISTRICT. NORMALLY I'M VERY, VERY, VERY ANTI MULTIFAMILY AND A LOT OF CONDITIONS UNLESS IT'S REALLY ON A MAJOR ARTERIAL WHERE IT'S NOT GONNA IMPACT. UM, THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. UM AND I DO AGREE WITH STAFF. THIS IS REALLY AN AREA WHERE THIS IS MORE APPROPRIATE. IT'S GONNA BE GREAT TO HELP TO SUPPORT THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S THERE. DREAMS A DISASTER. WE COULD SNAP OUR FINGERS AND MAKE THE BYPASS DISAPPEAR, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT AT LEAST IT'S ON 380. IT'S NOT ON HARDIN BOULEVARD. IT'S NOT ON VIRGINIA. UM SO I'M ACTUALLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT. I, I GO, UH COUNCILWOMAN FELT HIS COMMENTS. BECAUSE IT IS WHAT I VIEW TO BE AN INTERIOR LOT, AND IT'S PROBABLY GONNA DEVELOP IN THAT DIRECTION. ANYWAY I JUST WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THIS ACT OF KINDNESS WHEN YOU COME IN, SAY, SIDE PLAN. TELL ME J AND I GAVE YOU SOME AFFORDABLE UNITS AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. THANK YOU, BOB. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. I APPRECIATE THAT. WE NEED A PARAMEDIC HERE. IF YOU'RE GONNA MAKE I'M GONNA HAVE A DRINK AFTER THIS. JUST BECAUSE OF THAT. UM ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU, BOB. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE SIDE OF SEEN NONE. ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR MAYOR. I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM ESTIMATED BY STAFF. BOATS.

RIGHT? OUR CHIEF DOW. JUST TEXT ME HE'S CALLED THE PARAMEDIC. SO IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND JUST SEEING HIM BEFORE YOU GET ON THE ROAD, I DON'T WANT YOU YOU KNOW, HAVE AN ACCIDENT OR SOMETHING. OK UM,

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “C2” - Local Commercial District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to Modify the Development Standards and Allow for Commercial and Auto Garage Uses (Luxury Elite Garages), Located Approximately 330 feet South of the Intersection of Virginia Parkway and Hardin Boulevard and 220 feet West of Hardin Boulevard, and Accompanying Ordinance]

ITEM. 240012 Z THREE, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ACT ON A REQUEST TO REZONE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM C TWO LOCAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, THE PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT GENERALLY TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL AND AUTO GARAGE USES LUXURY ELITE GARAGES. LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 330 FT, SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF VIRGINIA PARKWAY AND HARDIN BOULEVARD AND 220 FT WEST OF HARDEN BOULEVARD AND THE COMPANY IN ORDINANCE. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. JENNIFER ARNOLD, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING. UM, AS YOU READ, THIS WAS A REQUEST TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHICH IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS C 22, A PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT GENERALLY TO ALLOW FOR WHAT WE ARE CALLING, UM, AUTO GARAGE CONDOS. SO AS YOU NOTED, THE TRACT IS THERE AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF HARDIN IN VIRGINIA.

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IT'S ABOUT 4.5 4.6 ACRES IN SIZE . UM, WE STAFF DEFINITELY NOTES THAT THE TRACK DOES NOT HAVE ANY DIRECT FRONTAGE ON TO EITHER VIRGINIA OR HARDEN. IT IS TUCKED BEHIND THE PAD SITES THAT ARE DEVELOPING ALONG THOSE STREETS. NOW WE HAVE, UM, A CAR WASH A GAS STATION, A STARBUCKS, UM, AND AN AUTO REPAIR FACILITY &-PO UH, WITH THE REZONING REQUEST, THE PD IS ACTUALLY QUITE SPECIFIC ABOUT THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD OCCUR ON THE TRACK. UM, IT IS BASED ON THE C TWO ZONING DISTRICT, SO ON THE ONE HAND IT COULD DEVELOP AS JUST TRADITIONAL COMMERCIAL USES. HOWEVER THERE ARE SPECIFIC PERMISSIONS THAT AN AUTO GARAGE CONDO COULD BE PERMITTED ON THE TRACK. SO WHAT THAT IS A LUXURY. UM, AUTO STORAGE FACILITY. UM THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE STORAGE OF, UM UH, VEHICLES. UM, AS WELL AS, UH, PERSONAL SPACE WITHIN THE UNITS. UM THINK OF IT VERY SIMILAR TO, UH, THE ARROW COUNTRY AIRPORT WHERE WE HAVE THE HANGARS AND THE CONDOS THAT ARE A COMBINATION WHERE FOLKS CAN ACTUALLY SPEND SOME TIME THERE IN THE GARAGE. UM, KIND OF A MAN CAVE IF YOU WILL, WITH THEIR LUXURY OR CLASSIC CARS, WHILE THE USE ITSELF ON ITS SURFACE STAFF DEFINITELY FILLS, UH, IS NOT INAPPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA. WE DID HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS FOR THE APPLICANT REGARDING PROTECTIONS FOR THINGS LIKE NOISE, AUTO REPAIR AND ENSURING THAT THE INTENT AND VISION AS AS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT IS ACTUALLY WHAT GOT CODIFIED IN THE ZONING. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPOSED PD REGULATIONS, YOU WILL SEE A NUMBER OF PROHIBITIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED WITH THE ZONING, UM MANY OF WHICH ARE RELATED TO THE EXTENT TO WHICH THAT AUTO REPAIR OR NOISE, UM INDUCING ACTIVITIES COULD BE PERMITTED, SO THOSE ARE ALL SPECIFICALLY LIMITED. PROHIBITED ON THE PROPERTY. IF THERE IS ANY WHAT WE CALL TINKERING OR MACHINING WITH THE VEHICLES, THOSE WOULD ALL HAVE TO BE CONTAINED WITHIN THE GARAGE UNITS. NONE OF THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED TO OCCUR ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE UNITS. UM AND WE ALSO HAVE SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED, UM, JUST FOR CLARITY'S SAKE. REALLY THAT OVERNIGHT STAY THE OPERATION OF A BUSINESS OR ANY TYPE OF SALES OTHER THAN, UH, YOU KNOW, AN INDIVIDUAL SALE OF MAYBE MY VEHICLE ARE ALL, UH, SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED. AND WITHIN THE PD ZONING, UH, GIVEN THE, UM PROHIBITIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE ZONING THE LOCATION OF THE TRACK AGAIN OFF THE FRONT. WE DID LOOK AT IT VERY SIMILAR TO, UM, A SELF STORAGE FACILITY, BUT SORT OF ON AN ELEVATED LEVEL. UM FOR VEHICLES AND, UM, HANGOUT SPACE OR PERSONAL SPACE. UM, WE FIND THAT IT DOES SEEM TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT'S DEVELOPED TO THE NORTH, AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ALSO CONSIDERED THE ITEM AND IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. SENATOR JENNIFER IN A YEAR PROHIBITED FROM SPENDING THE NIGHT THERE A PERSON YOU? YES AND I BELIEVE JENNIFER. TO THAT END. THEY CAN'T HAVE RUNNING WATER IN THEIR GARAGES. RIGHT SO NO TOILETS OR SINKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THAT, UH, SPECIFIED IN THE ZONING. BUT IF THAT IS AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COUNCIL, WE CAN CERTAINLY ASK THE APPLICANT OF THAT. UM BUT SLEEPING QUARTERS. UM, TOILETS, PLUMBING. GETTING THE UNITS PLUMBED FOR THAT TYPE OF THING. UM, DON'T KNOW THAT WE PROHIBIT THAT. SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING TO DISCUSS, WE CERTAINLY CAN. I WOULD. THANK YOU. YEAH. IF IT'S A MAN CAVE, YOU'D WANT A RESTROOM. YOU WANT A RESTROOM? WOULD YOU? I JUST GOT UP. I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THE WIVES WOULD NOT SO THEY COME HOME. BUT ACTUALLY, MOST WOULD PROBABLY SAY YES. PUT IN A RHETORIC. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. JENNIFER DIN HERE. UH, WE DO HAVE THE AIN HERE AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THERE.

LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE ON THE ITEM. HI JIM RIGGS ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, I DO NOT HAVE MUCH TO ADD FROM WHAT JENNIFER SAID. EXCEPT THESE ARE REALLY HIGH END CONDOS THAT HAVE BECOME PRETTY PREVALENT NOT JUST IN THE DALLAS METRO AREA, BUT IN OTHER CITIES AS WELL. SOME OF THEM HAVE RESTROOM AS A POWDER ROOM. THERE'S A CLUBHOUSE THAT HAS MORE EXTENSIVE RESTROOMS. THAT'LL BE PART OF THE FACILITY THAT KIND OF HANDLE THAT, BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE ALL DAY OR HAVE A BAR WITH A S THAT IS VERY COMMON. SURE. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER PROJECTS IN THE LOCAL AREA OR SIMILAR NATURE . WE DO NOT HAVE WHAT WE CALL GARAGE CONDOS. WE'RE DOING MORE OF THOSE IN OTHER CITIES AND LOOKING FOR MORE SITES HERE. BUT WHERE THE DEVELOPER OF THE COMMERCIAL PADS AND THE ADJACENT SENIOR HOUSING PROJECT SERVES IN THE PLANNING ZONING MEETING AND FORGIVE ME MY MEMORY MAY BE BAD, BUT MY RECOLLECTION WAS SOMETHING LIKE THERE WOULD BE AN

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EXTERIOR MASONRY WALL AND I BELIEVE THE GARAGE DOORS OPEN TO THE INTERIOR OF THE THING. NOT TO THE EXTERIOR. WHERE THEORETICALLY YOU COULD SEE THAT FROM HARDEN. I WOULD SAY MY ANECDOTAL DRIVING BY I'VE PAID ATTENTION TO THIS. YOU CAN'T YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE IT FROM VIRGINIA BECAUSE THE TOPOGRAPHY STARTS GOING DOWN BEHIND THOSE THOSE BUSINESSES.

YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ANYTHING. THERE WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE SOMETHING FROM HARDEN. IF LOOKING AT IT JUST RIGHT. BUT I RECALL THAT WE WOULD NOT BE LOOKING AT GARAGE DOORS. IS THAT FAIR TO SAY THAT'S 100% CORRECT. YOU CAN'T SEE THE DOORS. YOU CANNOT BARELY SEE THIS FACILITY FROM EITHER HARDEN OR VIRGINIA. IT ALSO IS GATED AND SECURE. IT IS VERY PRIVATE, DESIGNED TO BE VERY QUIET. OK? THIS ONCE AGAIN IS MY DISTRICT. UM I? I DID IT INITIALLY HAVE SOME CONCERNS.

UH, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS ARE PLANNING. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY VISUALS OF WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO BUILD. BUT I'VE SEEN SOME OTHER SIMILAR GARAGES THAT CAN LOOK VERY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL MY CONCERN WAS THAT IT WOULD NOT FIT IN WITH WHAT WE HAVE DEVELOPING ON THAT. CORNER BUT I, I DO AGREE IF IT'S KIND OF TUCKED BACK QUITE A BIT. UM YOU KNOW THAT THAT CONCERN IS A WHOLE LOT. FOR ME. UM AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT. IT'S NOT A TYPICAL WE HAVE A STARBUCKS THERE. IT'S BUSY. THERE'S A GAS STATION THERE. THAT'S REALLY BUSY. SO I THINK THIS IS THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WON'T ADD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC TO THE AREA, WHICH I DO. I THINK IT'S A GREAT TRANSITION. BETWEEN USERS ACTUALLY BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL AND THE IN THE RESIDENTIAL I WAS INVITED TO WATCH FOOTBALL GAME IN A VERY SIMILAR PROJECT DOWN IN ALLEN, JUST WATERS NORTH OF MCDERMOTT AND I CARS THAT LIVE THERE ARE VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE, AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT KIND OF INVESTMENT TO WANT TO HAVE THIS KIND OF PROPERTY. I THINK IT WOULD BE A POSITIVE IMPROVEMENT. MHM. SIR. IS A PUBLIC HEARING. UH, LESTER SAYING TO YOU ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD JIM? NOT THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING SOMEONE LIKE YOU. WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? YEAH. STATE NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. WALLY HAS FRAZ AND I'M A RESIDENT OF MCKINNEY HERE AT HARDIN AND VIRGINIA. SO MY CONCERN IS I'M LOOKING AT A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN THAT CORNER. WHAT DOES THIS PLACE THAT LEAD LUXURY GARAGE LOOKS LIKE WE KNOW WE HAVE A VISUAL OR SOMETHING. HOW IS THIS GOING TO IMPACT THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT LOCATION? THAT'S MY QUESTION AS WELL. OK, JENNIFER, DO YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING? AND SO IN B IF YOU MIND GOING BACK TO THE PRESENTATION, SO WE DON'T HAVE ELEVATIONS. UM AT THIS TIME, UM AND AS YOU KNOW, WITH STATE LAW CHANGES, UH, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO REGULATE ARCHITECTURAL. HOWEVER UM, WE DO KNOW THAT WITHIN THAT PD ZONING, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ORIENTATION OF THE BAY DOORS GETTING INTO THOSE UNITS. THOSE ARE REQUIRED PER ZONING TO BE INTERNAL, SO THOSE WOULD NOT BE EXPOSED OR VISIBLE FROM THE STREET AND AT PRESENT THE APPLICANT OH, SHOOT. SORRY.

PRESENTATION IT IS AN ATTACHMENT CALLED PROPOSED LAYOUT. WE DO HAVE AN INFORMATIONAL LAYOUT. UM AT THIS POINT, UH, WHICH IS WHERE THEY HOW THEY THINK THEY MIGHT LAY OUT THE SITE. BUT OF COURSE, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO REVIEW THAT FULLY UNTIL WE GET INTO THE SITE PLANNING PROCESS SHOULD THE ZONING BE APPROVED? SO, YEAH, IF YOU SCROLL DOWN AND PRESS UM THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE, IT SAYS LAY OUT INFORMATION ONLY. YEAH. AND THEN YOU SCROLL DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT. UM SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS, UM THERE'LL BE, UH, THE AS THEIR LAYING IT OUT NOW ACCESS COMING FROM, UM, THOSE PAD SITES, THE SORT OF A LOOP ROAD THERE AND THEN UNITS ON THE INTERIOR AND SOME ON THE NORTH. UM BUT THAT'S THAT'S ABOUT ALL WE KNOW AT THIS POINT AGAIN, WE ARE JUST LOOKING AT THAT ZONING. SO IS THE USE ENTITLEMENT. UM APPROPRIATE. UM AND ANY OTHER SPECIFIC, UM, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED. APPLICANT DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER, UM, LOCATIONS THAT WE COULD REFER TO YOU. NOT WE HAVE NOT DESIGNED THIS PROJECT YET. WE ARE ONLY AT THE SITE PLANNING STAGE, BUT WHAT I CAN MAYBE GIVE YOU SOME COMFORT AS THIS IS A HIGH END LUXURY PRODUCT. YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THIS IN THIS MARKET. YET IT IS WHERE DUPLICATING SOMETHING THAT WAS AT THE SCOTTSDALE AIR PARK. UM AND THESE ARE GOING TO BE PREDOMINANTLY FOR SALE, AT LEAST FOR THE INTERIM TERM IS GOING TO BE FOR SALE CONDOS OR FLEX CONDOS. SO THE ONLY WAY THIS REALLY WORKS IS THAT WE HAVE TO DESIGN IT AT A REALLY HIGH LEVEL. UM WE'RE DESIGNED THE

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LAST FOR A VERY LONG TIME TO BE VERY LITTLE UPKEEP, AND PEOPLE ARE STORING VERY EXPENSIVE THINGS INSIDE THESE, SO WE HAVE TO MIX. THE OUTSIDE IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT AS WELL. DO YOU? DO YOU KNOW WHAT MATERIALS YOU'RE GOING TO USE ON THE BUILDING? NO BUT WE'LL WORK EXTENSIVELY WITH JENNIFER AND MAKE SURE IT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY AT A HIGH LEVEL. OK? THANK YOU. THANKS AS I SAID. WE HAVE ONE PERSON SPEAK. I GUESS THERE'S NOBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM, SO ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR. MAY I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. SECOND GASTRO VOTES. RIGHT? ITEM 241460 CONSIDER AN ACT ON APPOINTING A

[Consider/Discuss/Act on Appointing a Member to the North Texas Municipal Water District (NTMWD) Board of Directors]

MEMBER TO THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT. OF DIRECTORS. LIKE AND. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR FULLER AND COUNCIL. UH THIS ITEM IS A FOLLOW UP TO THE BOARD OF, UH NO TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT. THE CITY OF MCKINNEY HAS TWO REPRESENTATIVES TO THAT BOARD, WHO EACH SERVE TWO YEARS STAGGERED TERMS OF THE TERM FOR DON PASCAL IS EXPIRING SOON, SO YOU WOULD NEED TO APPOINT SOMEONE OR YOU COULD REAPPOINT HIM. HE IS ELIGIBLE FOR RE. I WOULD POINT OUR SECOND OK? CAST YOUR VOTES. A VERBAL WILL BE SUFFICIENT. SHE'S NOT THERE. A VERBAL VOTE WILL BE SUFFICIENT. I'M SORRY. ALL IN FAVOR. I OPPOSE THANK YOU. WE HAVE

[Consider/Discuss/Act on a Resolution Appointing a Member to the 9-1-1 Emergency Communications District Board of Managers within the North Central Texas Council of Governments (NCTCOG)]

ANOTHER ITEM. YOU'RE RIGHT. CONSIDER AN ACT ON A RESOLUTION APPOINTING A MEMBER TO THE 911 EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION DISTRICT BOARD MANAGERS WITHIN THE NORTH TEXAS TEXAS, UH, NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, THE APPOINTEE TO THIS BOARD SHOULD BE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL OF THE CITY. YOUR MOST RECENT, UH, MEMBER HAS BEEN DR FUS, WHO HAS SERVED FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS.

THIS BOARD MEETS QUARTERLY IN THE CITY OF ARLINGTON. WILL SAY. RID OF WAS BORN AND I HAVE A PASSION FOR IT, AND I BUT IT LONG AND HARD, BUT I THINK SOMEBODY'S BETTER SUITED THAN ME. LIKE THE NOMINATE COUNCILMAN. FRANKLIN. THIS BOARD. I WILL. SECOND WELL. UH, IF I CAN, MR BROWN, I WANT TO SAY THIS. YOU KNOW, I MISSED THE LAST MEETING AND WE HAD SOME FUN WITH THIS THING AND DR PHELPS. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU DOING IT. I DIDN'T KNOW YOU DID IT FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS GOING TO ARLINGTON. SHE WORKED IN MESQUITE AND LIVED HERE AND GOOD LORD, ANYWAY, UM, YOU KNOW, IT STRUCK ME THAT IT OUGHT TO BE MICHAEL, ME OR RICK BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS ALL HAVE TO RUN AGAIN NEXT YEAR, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SO RICK AND I TALKED ABOUT IT AND HE'S VOLUNTEERED TO DO IT, SO I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.

THANK YOU. WE WELCOME ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. I KNOW I LIE. REGULATIONS THAT IS THE END OF OUR REGULAR GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, UM, CITIZEN

[CITIZEN COMMENTS on Matters not on the Agenda]

COMMENTS ON NOT ON THE AGENDA. AND WE'RE GOING TO DO 2.5 MINUTES JUST TO KEEP IT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE DID EARLIER. LESLIE CUNNINGHAM.

PAY OFF. MY NAME IS LESLIE CUNNINGHAM OF 71 AND ONE VIRGINIA PARKWAY. AFTER MANY EXPRESSIONS OF FEELING NATIONWIDE, INCLUDING STATEMENTS AND RESOLUTIONS FROM BODIES SUCH AS THIS ONE, BUT NOT THIS ONE. I HAVE SEEN SOME MOVEMENT IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RECENTLY TOWARDS SKEPTICISM ABOUT SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL AS MASSACRES PEOPLE IN GAZA AND LET'S BE CLEAR THE MASSACRES ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL, NOT OF JEWISH PEOPLE WORLDWIDE. SO, AS I THINK WITH SORROW AND ANGER ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE AND GAZA, I ALSO THINK WITH CARE AND CONCERN ABOUT MY MANY JEWISH FRIENDS AND ACQUAINTANCES. THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD A HUGE NUMBER OF LIES OVER THE DECADES SUCH AS THAT PALESTINE WAS A LAND WITHOUT A PEOPLE THAT ISRAEL WAS CREATING A PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATIC UTOPIA THAT THE ISRAELI DEFENCE FORCES

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WERE THE MOST MORAL ARMY IN THE WORLD. I DO NOT BLAME THEM FOR WANTING TO BELIEVE THIS. AFTER MANY CENTURIES OF OPPRESSION, PERSECUTION AND POGROMS IN EUROPE, CULMINATING IN THE HORROR OF THE HOLOCAUST, MANY OF MY JEWISH AND CHRISTIAN FRIENDS DON'T WANT UP THEIR VISION OF A RIGHTEOUS ISRAEL, BUT IT IS HARD TO REMAIN BLIND WHEN ISRAEL HAS KILLED OVER 34,000 PEOPLE IN GAZA AND YOU SEE IT ON TV AND SOCIAL MEDIA EVERY DAY, SO I AM HAPPY TO SAY THAT GROUPS LIKE JEWISH VOICE FOR PEACE ARE GROWING, AND I HAVE FRIENDS IN THAT ORGANIZATION. AND THERE ARE NEW GROUPS LIKE RABBIS FOR CEASEFIRE. I WILL QUOTE A JEWISH WOMAN WHO DECLINED TO ATTEND A BRING BACK THE HOSTAGES RALLY IN NEW YORK. UH, SHE SAID, LIKE MANY OTHERS, I FIND MYSELF STANDING OUTSIDE THE JEWISH COMMUNITY, FEARING THAT THERE ARE FEW JEWS I CAN BE SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH IF THEY CAN CALL ONLY FOR THE RELEASE OF HOSTAGES WITHOUT A WORD FOR THE MANY, MANY, MANY PALESTINIANS KILLED BY BOMBS AND DYING AS STARVATION. HOW CAN ANYONE IMAGINE THAT HOSTAGES CAN BE RELEASED WITHOUT A FULL CEASEFIRE IN PLACE? HOW DARE THEY EVEN SUGGEST A CEASEFIRE ONLY TO RELEASE THE HOSTAGES, FOLLOWED BY A RESUMPTION OF BOMBING. A FULL CEASEFIRE MUST BEGIN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THAT NOT ONLY WILL THOSE HOSTAGES WHO ARE STILL ALIVE COME HOME AND THE BOMBINGS END BUT ALSO SO SOME WISE AND IMAGINATIVE MINDS CAN BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT WHAT FOLLOWS THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. UH, R.

EVENING RESPECTED COUNCIL MEMBERS. I AM HONORED AND GRATEFUL TO STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY. YESTERDAY WAS TAX DAY IN THE US. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE GIVEN IT A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION. WHY DO WE CALL IT INVESTMENT DAY? MOST OF US UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH WE OWE IN TAXES, AND WE CAN PROBABLY STATE THE PERCENTAGE OF OUR EARNINGS THAT GO TO TAXES. BUT HOW MANY OF US ACTUALLY KNOW HOW THAT MONEY IS ALLOCATED AND SPENT? I WAS QUITE ALARMED TO READ IN THE DALLAS OBSERVER LAST MONTH THAT SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING SCHOOL DISTRICTS, INCLUDING RICHARDSON, IRVING, PLANO, AND FORT WORTH, LACK MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND NEED HIGHER ENROLLMENT. I WAS VERY PUZZLED. BECAUSE THE FACT THAT THE CLOSURE OF SEVERAL SCHOOLS IS NOT IS VERY CONCERNING TO ME AS A MCKINNEY RESIDENT WHOSE CHILDREN HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP IN MCKINNEY SCHOOL SYSTEM THAT WE'RE NOT IMMUNE. BUT THE FATE IS NOT IRREVERSIBLE. TAX ECONOMY IS BOOMING AS THE EIGHTH LARGEST ECONOMY AMONG NATIONS OF THE WORLD. LARGER THAN RUSSIA AND CANADA. HOWEVER TEXAS SPENDS ONLY 3.45% OF ITS PROFOUND ECONOMIC CAPACITY ON ITS K THROUGH 12 PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND RANKS AS 44TH STATE FOR PER PUPIL SPENDING. AS CITIZENS OF MCKINNEY AND US CITIZENS, WE MUST STAND UNITED ON THE VALUES OF EDUCATION, SAFETY AND HEALTH AND ADVOCATE FOR INCREASED SPENDING ON EDUCATION AND OTHER SECTORS THAT BENEFIT MCKINNEY'S RESIDENTS. OUR PROSPERITY DEPENDS ON IT. IT IS THIS COMMON GROUND THAT SHOULD BRING US TOGETHER TO LEARN MORE ABOUT HOW WE CAN COLLECTIVELY DERIVE IN THE BEST RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT AS AMERICANS PER OUR AMERICAN VALUES. THERE ARE SEVERAL WEBSITES WITH BREAKDOWNS. AND INTERACTIVE TOOLS TO HELP US START TO LEARN ABOUT OUR ALLOCATED SPENDING, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO. USA SPENDING.GOV CONTROLLER.TEXAS.GOV AND NOT MY TAX DOLLARS.ORG. WE WOULD INVITE ALL OF OUR MCKINNEY CITIZENS TO REACH OUT, ENGAGE AND COLLABORATE ON EFFORTS WHERE WE ALL COLLECTIVELY CAN MAKE THIS A PROSPEROUS, PROSPEROUS CITY, A PROSPEROUS NATION. COMBAT HATE COMBAT ISLAMOPHOBIA COMBAT ANTI SEMITISM, COMBAT ANTI EVERYTHING. INJUSTICE AND HATRED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SR . A LOT OF MONEY AS A RESPECTED MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THIS IS SOME OF A CAR, A RESIDENT OF MCKINNEY. UM AS A NEURO DIVERGENT PERSON, I WOULD FIRST OF ALL, LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR RECOGNIZING AUTISM