May 07, 2024 City Council Work Session

[CALL TO ORDER]

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GOOD AFTERNOON. TODAY IS TUESDAY , MAY 7TH YEAR 2024. IT IS THREE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON. WE'RE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 222 NORTH TENNESSEE STREET. TO MCKINNEY. THIS IS OUR CITY COUNCIL WORK

[Police Department Officer Recognition Program]

SO BEAR WITH ME. ON APRIL 28 THIS YEAR AT APPROXIMATELY 2 P.M. OFFICERS RESPONDED TO THE 900 BLOCK OF NORTH JORDAN STREET IN REFERENCE TO A SHOOTING THAT HAD JUST OCCURRED. WITNESSES REPORTED SEEING TWO MALE SUBJECTS SHOOTING AT EACH OTHER, WHICH RESULTED IN THE DEATH OF A 21 YEAR OLD OR 23 YEAR OLD MELISSA RESIDENTS. THE SUSPECT WAS SEEN RUNNING SOUTH FROM THE LOCATION. FIRST RESPONDING OFFICERS QUICKLY ARRIVED ON SCENE AND FOUND THE VICTIM DECEASED IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT OF A WHITE PASSENGER CAR. THE RESPONDING OFFICER SET UP A PERIMETER IN HOPES OF CONTAINING THE SUSPECT WHO WAS SEEN RUNNING SOUTH AFTER THE SHOOTING.

OFFICER JACKSON ARRIVED AND BEGAN IMMEDIATELY INTERVIEWING WITNESSES WHEN HE LEARNED THAT THE SUSPECT WAS BELIEVED TO LIVE IN THE AREA. OFFICER JACKSON THEN BEGAN CANVASSING THE SURROUNDING STREETS AND TAKING STATEMENTS AND LOOKING FOR RELEVANT HOME VIDEO SURVEILLANCE FOOTAGE THAT COULD HELP IDENTIFY OR BE HELPFUL IN THE INVESTIGATION. A VIDEO FROM ONE OF THE HOUSES SHOWED A MALE SUBJECT WALKING IN THE AREA WHO MATCHED THE DESCRIPTION GIVEN BY WITNESSES OF THE SHOOTER. OFFICER JACKSON FORWARD THAT PICTURE TO OFFICER FORWARDED THAT PICTURE TO OFFICERS ON THE SCENE. ADDITIONALLY A VIDEO FROM ANOTHER HOUSE SHOWED THE SAME MALE SUBJECT BEING DROPPED OFF IN A GRAY CHRYSLER VAN A FEW STREETS AWAY FROM THE CRIME SCENE JUST PRIOR TO THE SHOOTING. ATTEMPTS TO TRACK THE SUSPECT WITH K. NINE WERE UNSUCCESSFUL IN THE DPS HELICOPTER WAS NOT AVAILABLE. WHEN DETECTIVES ARRIVED ON SCENE OFFICER JACKSON WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SURVEILLANCE PHOTOS OF THE SUSPECT SUSPECT VEHICLE AND THE DIRECTION OF TRAVEL. THE SUSPECT'S VEHICLE WAS LOCATED IN POSITIVELY IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE PRELIMINARY INVESTIGATION WORK OF OFFICER JACKSON THIS CRITICAL INFORMATION ENABLED DETECTIVES TO OBTAIN SEARCH AND ARREST WARRANTS, AND WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, THEY WERE ABLE TO MAKE TWO ARRESTS FOR CAPITAL MURDER. OFFICER JACKSON'S ACTIONS DURING THIS INCIDENT EXEMPLIFY OUR CORE VALUES OF RISE AND BRING GREAT CREDIT UPON THE CITY OF MCKINNEY AND THE MCKINNEY POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE HIM AS THE CHIEF CHALLENGE COIN. AND BUT THE COUNCIL DOWN FOR A PHOTO IF YOU SO LOT.

MAYBE YOU WANNA MAYBE CO YOU GUYS COME TO THE OTHER SIDE. IF YOU DON'T MIND. THANK YOU SO MUCH. TRY TO BALANCE IT OUT A LITTLE BIT. HE ALWAYS MAKES ME LOOK GOOD. THANK YOU.

[Proclamation for Building Safety Month]

YEAH. RIGHT CITY MCKINNEY PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS THE CITY OF MCKINNEY IS COMMITTED TO RECOGNIZING THAT OUR GROWTH AND STRENGTH DEPENDS ON THE SAFETY AND ROLES OF OUR OUR HOMES,

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WHEREAS MISSION IMPOSSIBLE. THE THEME FOR BUILDING SAFETY MONTH 2024 ENCOURAGES US ALL TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT BUILDING SAFETY. ON A PERSONAL, LOCAL AND GLOBAL SCALE. AND WHEREAS EACH YEAR AN OBSERVANCE OF BUILDING SAFETY MONTH WE ARE ASKED TO CONSIDER THE COMMITMENT TO IMPROVING BUILDING SAFETY, RESILIENCE AND ECONOMIC INVESTMENT AT HOME AND IN THE COMMUNITY AND TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE ESSENTIAL SERVICE PROVIDED TO ALL OF US BY LOCAL BUILDING DEPARTMENTS AND FIRE PROTECTION BUREAUS. NOW. THEREFORE I GEORGE FULLER, BY THE POWER VESTED IN ME AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, TEXAS, TO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MAY 2024 AS BUILDING SAFETY MONTH IN THE CITY, ENCOURAGING ALL RESIDENTS TO SUPPORT AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE ESSENTIAL SERVICE PROVIDED TO ALL OF US BY LOCAL BUILDING DEPARTMENTS AND FIRE PREVENTION BUREAUS IN PROTECTING LIVES AND PROPERTY. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL EVERY YEAR, THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL PUTS ON BUILDING SAFETY AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHINE A SPOTLIGHT ON ALL THAT IT TAKES TO CREATE SAFE BUILDINGS AND THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE IT HAPPEN. THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL OR THE FOLKS THAT WRITE OUR CODE BOOKS THAT WE, UH PRETTY MUCH LIVE BY, UM THEY ALSO COME UP WITH ALL THE EDUCATION MATERIAL AND ALL THE CERTIFICATION CRITERIA THAT WE GO BY IN OUR INDUSTRY AS WELL. AND I HAVE TO SAY THIS GROUP HERE ARE SOME OF THE MOST HIGHLY CERTIFIED AND HIGHLY EDUCATED, HIGHLY QUALIFIED FOLKS IN THE BUSINESS, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THEY DO. YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY EXCITING. HOW BUSY WE ARE, UH, BUT IT'S REALLY EXCITING HOW BUSY WE ARE. WITH ALL DEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN MCKINNEY. THESE FOLKS ARE MAKING IT HAPPEN. THEY'RE DOING IT WITH EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SERVICE, AND I CAN'T THANK THEM ENOUGH. AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL FOR GIVING US THIS DECLARATION OF BUILDING SAFETY MONTH. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. IS THERE SOMEONE GOING TO TAKE A PHOTOGRAPH? MR RICHER? SURE. YEAH. ACT LIKE YOU LIKE ONE ANOTHER. THERE WE GO. FOUR WEEKS. SAID THAT DENVER THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT PROCLAMATION FOR

[Proclamation for Municipal Clerks Week]

WHEREAS PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS CONTINUALLY STRIVE TO IMPROVE THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE AFFAIRS OF THE OFFICE OF THE PROFESSIONAL. PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERK THROUGH DEVELOPMENT AND INFORMATION PROGRAMS AND MEETINGS OF THEIR LOCAL STATE, NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS, AS WELL AS PEER TO PEER NETWORKING, INFORMATION SHARING AND MENTORING. WHEREAS IT IS MOST APPROPRIATE TO RECOGNIZE THE SERVICE AND VITAL ROLE OF THE OFFICE OF THE PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERK, WHICH IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS, INCLUDES THE OFFICE OF THE CITY SECRETARY AND THE NUMEROUS CLERKS OF OUR CITY BOARDS OF COMMISSIONS. NOW. THEREFORE I GEORGE FULLER, BY THE POWER VESTED IN ME AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, TEXAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 5TH TO 11TH 2024 AS MUNICIPAL CLERKS WEEK IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS, SENDING APPRECIATION TO ALL OF OUR PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS AND BOARD CLERKS FOR THEIR VITAL SERVICES THEY PERFORM AND THEY'RE EXEMPLARY DEDICATION TO OUR COMMUNITY. WITNESS MOHANAN SEAL. 7 MAY 2024. MR ROCHE. AND OUR LAST PROCLAMATION. UH,

[Proclamation for Public Works Week]

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YES. SURE. IT'S GOOD. NO, YOU DON'T. CITY MCKINNEY PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS THE STAFF OF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY'S DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS FOCUS ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE FACILITIES AND SERVICES THAT ARE OF VITAL IMPORTANCE TO THE SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT COMMUNITY AND TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH. HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE AND WELL-BEING OF THE CITY. WHEREAS THE INFRASTRUCTURE FACILITIES AND SERVICES COULD NOT BE PROVIDED WITHOUT THE DEDICATED EFFORTS OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS. PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING IMPROVING AND PROTECTING OUR STREETS, WATER AND WASTE WATER SYSTEMS FLEET, SOLID WASTE COLLECTION, PUBLIC BUILDINGS AND OTHER STRUCTURES AND FACILITIES ESSENTIAL FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS IT IS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST FOR THE OF THE FOR THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND CIVIC LEADERS IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY TO GAIN KNOWLEDGE OF AND MAINTAIN A PROGRESSIVE INTEREST IN UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC AND PUBLIC WORKS PROGRAMS. AND WHEREAS THE YEAR 2024 MARKS THE 64TH ANNUAL NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK SPONSORED BY THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION. AND IT SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED AS ADVANCING QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL NOW, THEREFORE, I GEORGE FULLER, BY THE POWER VESTED IN ME AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, TEXAS, TO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 19 TO 25 2024 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS, AND URGED ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS TO ACQUAINT THEMSELVES WITH THE WORK INVOLVED IN PROVIDING OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND TO RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS WHICH PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS MAKE EVERY DAY TO OUR HEALTH, SAFETY AND COMFORT AND QUALITY OF LIFE. WITNESS MY HAND AND SEAL THE SEVENTH DAY OF MAY. THANK YOU. ALL YOUR SUPPORT AND WE COULDN'T HARDLY DO THIS WITHOUT EVER EVERYONE'S SUPPORT COUNCIL, MAYOR COUNCIL AND ALL THE CITIZENS SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL.

MR. THAT IS SQUEEZING GUYS. NO, I DON'T. IT'S QUITE I THINK, I IN THE TRACK. OK?

[PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS]

AM DONALD SILVER RESIDENT MCKINNEY. MY ADDRESS IS CORRECT ON THE FORM. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I HAVE TWO POINTS TO MAKE ONE FOR ANY CHARTER AMENDMENT THAT CHANGES TERM LIMITS. I AM OPPOSED TO THAT. I FEEL THAT WHEN WE HAVE NEW MEMBERS, WE GET FRESH BLOOD. FRESH IDEAS. SECOND POINT IF WE VOTE TO HAVE THIS ON THE BALLOT, I WOULD LIKE IT TO EXCLUDE ANYONE THAT HAS VOTED TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT. THANK. SUE SILVER. GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AND A PLEASURE TO BE BACK. UM AGAIN. I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO. UM THAT WAS MY HUSBAND AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REQUEST IN YOUR DISCUSSIONS OF A CHARTER AMENDMENT THAT MAINTAIN THE CURRENT TERM LIMITS THE TERM THE TERM LENGTHS AND THE COUNCIL COMPENSATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MIKE GILES. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR MAYOR AND COUNCIL

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GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK. TODAY I AM AGAINST THE TERM, INCREASING THE TERM LIMITS AS WELL. I THINK YOU KNOW WE NEED NEW BLOOD IN HERE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE AND JUST KEEPING EVERYTHING THE SAME. LET'S KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS. NOW LET'S NOT INCREASE IT AND LET'S GET SOME NEW IDEAS AND SOME NEW BLOOD IN HERE. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK TODAY.

THANK YOU. AND FOR YOU. THANK YOU. POOR CO FIVE MCKINNEY PLACE DRIVE. I HAD A WHOLE BUNCH OF VERY CAREFULLY WORDED. PARAGRAPHS. UM I WISH I COULD GET BEHIND THIS EXTENDING THE TERM. AMENDMENT. AS WAS PREVIOUSLY STATED THE FOUNDERS NEVER INTENDED. CIVIL SERVANTS TO BE PROFESSIONAL POLITICIANS. I DO NOT HAVE AN ISSUE WITH WHAT ANY OF YOU HAVE DONE. SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, THE CITY HAS THRIVED. MR MAYOR. I GET I GET YOU WANTING TO HAVE FOUR MORE YEARS AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME. BUT GO AHEAD. I UNDERSTAND, BUT ANY ANY ANY OF YOU? YOU WANNA HAVE A LEGACY? AND WHETHER IT'S THE AIRPORT, WHETHER IT'S YOU KNOW, NOTES, LIVE AMPHITHEATER. WHAT? WHATEVER IT IS, YOU WANT TO HAVE A LEGACY. AND NOW YOU'RE FACING THE END OF THE LINE, SO TO SPEAK. YOU WANT MORE TIME? YOU KNOW, I I'VE GOT MY NAME ON THE PLAQUE ON A ON A SCHOOL THAT MY COMPANY BUILT YEARS AGO. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? IT WAS REALLY COOL FOR ABOUT TWO WEEKS. NOW WHEN I GO TO THE SCHOOL, MY NAME'S ON THE PLAQUE, BUT THAT'S NOT MY LEGACY. MY KIDS ARE MY LEGACY. DO WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO MORE WORK TO DO? MORE DEVELOPMENT TO BRING IN BUT THIS HAVE NOT MET ANYBODY THAT SAYS THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA. TERM LIMITS. ARE THERE FOR

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ABOLISHING NONE OF IT. JUST SEEM TO BE CONFUSED. I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER YOU ACTUALLY DECIDE WHO SITS UP HERE. BY VOTING. THAT THAT IS THE DEMOCRATIC WAY TO LIMIT TERMS. IT'S ALSO WE'VE SEEN IN A WE HAD ONE SITUATION ALREADY IN THE LAST SEVEN YEARS WHERE WE HAD A SPECIAL ELECTION.

WHERE THERE WAS A RECALL. HAD NOTHING THAT THAT PERSON WAS EVEN FINISHED WITH THE TERM LIMIT, BUT VOTERS DECIDED THEY WERE NOT CAPABLE TO SERVE IN THE WAY THAT THEY FELT THEY SHOULD VOTERS FELT THEY SHOULD, AND SO THERE WAS AN ELECTION AND THEY WERE REMOVED. THE POWER RESTS WITH YOU. AS YOU REST WITH US. DOESN'T REST IN WORDS ON A PAPER WORDS ON A BALLOT. IT RESTS WITH PEOPLE GOING AND VOTING. UM, BRIAN LUCK, MILLER. Y. UM, I'M ACTUALLY HERE TO SPEAK ON A DIFFERENT SUBJECT. AND UM, BRIAN LOCHNER. I LIVE AT 6305 WILDWOOD DRIVE HERE IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS, AND I'M HERE. I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, BYRON NELSON GOLF TOURNAMENT . AND OF COURSE, WE JUST HAD THAT AND AS YOU ALL KNOW THAT I SERVE ON THE ME DC BOARD, AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF SOME ANECDOTAL. UM COMMENTS ABOUT JUST THE IMPACT OF THIS TOURNAMENT, AND I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA GET A LOT MORE FROM YOUR STAFF. THAT'S MORE OF, UM HISTORICAL OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FOUR YEARS. BUT UH, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF JUST ONE YEAR, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE YEAR FROM THE DATA, AND THIS ALL COMES FROM THE SALESMANSHIP CLUB IN ONE YEAR. UH, THE DIRECT ECONOMIC AND I'M JUST TALKING CITY MCKINNEY, NOT CON COUNTY.

BUT ONE YEAR DIRECT ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THE CITY OUT OF $55.4 MILLION COUNTYWIDE. THEY ESTIMATE 28.8 MILLION OF THAT WAS A DIRECT IMPACT ON MCKINNEY, TEXAS. THIS INCLUDED, UH, $2.9 MILLION IN DIRECT SPENDING IN RETAIL 2.27 MILLION IN LODGING. UH UH, WITH ROOM NIGHTS THAT WE HAVE, AND, OF COURSE, ALL EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON WITH THAT. AND THEN ALSO AS IT RELATES TO THE ME DC, UM YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO OBVIOUSLY IS, YOU KNOW OUR GOAL IS TO CREATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HERE IN MCKINNEY AND BRINGING BUSINESSES AND OVER THE COURSE OF FOUR DAYS WE HAD OVER 13 COMPANIES, BOTH LOCAL AND, UH, SOME PROSPECTIVE COMPANIES COMING IN TO MCKINNEY. WE HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GROUP OF THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE THAT WERE HERE IN MEETINGS WITH US, UH, SITE SELECTORS FROM CHICAGO, ATLANTA, NEW YORK. UH, SO IT IS A VERY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SHOWCASE THE CITY. FROM OUR STANDPOINT AS WELL. AND AGAIN. I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THIS, YOU KNOW YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LOT OF

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I'VE BEEN HERE WHERE THEY COULD SAY FOR ONE ENTITY. WE WERE ABLE TO RAISE $30,000 IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. BUT AGAIN, I'M JUST, UH I DIDN'T KNOW IF I WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK WHENEVER YOU HAD THE ITEM, SO I THOUGHT I A LOT OF CORD AND APPRECIATES CONSIDERATION AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE TOURNAMENT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT REALLY IS. IT'S NOT IT'S REALLY ABOUT AN ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR THE CITY THROUGH THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PGA OF AMERICA PGA TOUR. AND THE SALESMANSHIP CLUB. THAT'S WHAT IT'S REALLY ABOUT. AND I BELIEVE MY TIME IS UP. THANK YOU, BRIAN. THANK YOU, BRIAN. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE NOW TO DISCUSS, UH, REGULAR MEETING AGENDA ITEMS. ANYBODY HAVE AN ITEM THEY WANNA DISCUSS WITH STAFF PRIOR TO THE MEETING THIS EVENING. OK? MOVE TO OUR WORK SESSION ITEMS 241511 DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND DISCUSS

[Consider/Discuss Potential Extension of Byron Nelson Sponsorship Agreement]

WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY FORMAL APPROVAL TODAY. UH, WE WOULD GO BACK ASSUMING THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE US TO DO THAT, UH, FINALIZE THE ACTUAL TERMS OF AN AGREEMENT. AND OF COURSE, THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL. UH, FORMAL APPROVAL. SO THE STORY FOR TODAY STARTS 2020. I THINK I'D PROBABLY BE REMISS IF IT TO NOT TO NOTE THAT OBVIOUSLY, A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT WENT INTO PRIOR 2020 PREVIOUS ELECTED APPOINTED OFFICIALS, DAVID CRAIG, A LOT OF WORK TO BRING THE NELSON TO MCKINNEY ORIGINALLY, BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE DISCUSSION TODAY , THIS STORY KIND OF STARTS IN 2020. THAT IS WHEN THE EDC SIGNED THEIR FIRST SPONSORSHIP AGREEMENT, THE CITY AND THE CDC BASICALLY HAVE A JOINT AGREEMENT , WHICH IS BASICALLY A CHAPTER 380 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. I AM NOT GOING TO READ ALL OF THIS. YOU CAN SEE THE HISTORY OF WHEN THE EVENTS HAVE BEEN TWO THINGS I DO WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU, THOUGH, IN, UM 2020 IN JUNE, AND, UH, CHAIRMAN LOCKE MILLER REFERENCED IT. UH, THE SALESMANSHIP CLUB DID, UM, DID COMMISSION ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY PROVIDED BY A THIRD PARTY REPTILE FIRM CALLED DESTINATION ANALYTICS. THEY ARE OUT OF CALIFORNIA. THIS IS WHAT THEY DO, UM, WHAT THEY DO PROFESSIONALLY, UM, SO WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT SOME OF THE NUMBERS LATER WHEN WE GET INTO THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS, AND THAT'S THE BASIS FOR THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS. IN TERMS OF THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT THAT STAFF USED AND THEN SECONDARILY CLEARLY THE E DC IS SEEN VALUE IN WHAT THE WHAT THE BYRON NELSON BRINGS IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THEY HAVE AMENDED THEIR AGREEMENT TWICE WITH THEM FOR A HIGHER SPONSORSHIP LEVEL. OF COURSE, IN RETURN, THEY'VE GOT SOME HIGHER AMENITIES FOR THAT, FIRST ONE IN 21, AND THEN APRIL JUST BEFORE THIS ONE. THEY AMENDED IT ONE MORE TIME. AND WE WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. UM, AS WE GO ON SO WHERE ARE WE AT NOW? UH, A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY . ORIGINAL AGREEMENT WAS FOR FIVE YEARS 2021 TO 2025. THE CDC AND THE CITY HAVE A COMBINED SPONSORSHIP OF $400,000. THE 1ST 12345 BULLET POINTS. YOU SEE, THERE ARE REALLY THE AMENITIES THE HIGHLIGHTS, AT LEAST THE BIG PICTURE OF WHAT WE GET FOR THAT SPONSORSHIP. WE HAVE A SUITE AND THE 17TH HOLE FOR PRO AM POSITIONS TO HONORARY OBSERVERS. VARIOUS HOSPITALITY GENERAL MISSION TICKETS TO THE VARIOUS OTHER TYPES OF AMENITIES THAT ARE OUT THERE. HOST CITY. PREMIER PARTNERS REALLY MEANS

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OBVIOUSLY IF YOU WATCH IT ON TV ON CBS, YOU HEAR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY MENTIONED QUITE A FEW TIMES AND THE LAST BULLET POINT THERE IS REALLY OUR LARGEST EXPENSE OUTSIDE OF OBVIOUSLY THE SPONSORSHIP AS WE PROVIDE THE POLICE AND FIRE SERVICE FOR THE EVENT EACH YEAR, THE EDC AND WHY I WANTED TO MAKE NOTE ON THE FIRST SLIDE THAT THEY HAVE AMENDED THEIR AGREEMENT TWICE THIS $250,000 ANNUAL SPONSORSHIP. WHERE THEY ARE CURRENTLY AT IT WAS A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THAT. IN 2021. IT HAS BEEN AMENDED. NOW THERE ARE TWO PRIMARY AMENITIES THAT THEY GET.

UH, THEY HAVE TWO NELSON SUITES ON THE 18TH HOLE. THEY ALSO SIMILAR TO THE CITY HAVE SOME VARIOUS HOSPITALITY AND GENERAL ADMISSION TICKETS. SO THE EXTENSION AND THE INITIAL PROPOSAL WHERE WE ARE AT TO WHERE WE WOULD BE GOING. IF THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD LIKE US TO MOVE FORWARD AND NEGOTIATE THIS, BASICALLY WHERE THE CITY AND THE CDC ARE COMBINED, UH, COSTING US $400,000 RIGHT NOW FOR THE ANNUAL SPONSORSHIP, STARTING IN 2026 THAT WOULD MOVE TO 425,000.

THEN THERE WOULD BE A 5% ANNUAL ESCALATOR. UH FOR EACH YEAR 27 THROUGH 2023 2033 EXCUSE ME, UH, WE WOULD. THE CITY OF MCKINNEY WOULD CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE POLICE AND FIRE SERVICES. THERE IS A REQUEST FROM OR THE COURSE OWNER FOR A $1.5 MILLION INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT. THERE IS A $1 MILLION INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT FROM THE SALESMANSHIP SALESMANSHIP CLUB OF DALLAS. UH, FROM THE CITY AND THE CDC S PERSPECTIVE, WE WILL RECEIVE SIMILAR AMENITIES TO WHAT YOU SAW IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. AND THEN THE SALESMANSHIP CLUB. UM ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU WILL SEE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY THAT WAS PERFORMED IN 2022, WHICH IS THE BASIS OF OUR STAFF'S ANALYTICS. UH, THAT WE'RE GONNA SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL. THEY WOULD PERFORM THREE MORE OF THOSE IN 20. 26, 2029 AND 2032. UH, THE EDC. THEIR SPONSORSHIP STARTING IN 26 WOULD GO FROM 250 TO $285,000. THEY AS WELL WOULD HAVE A 5% ANNUAL ESCALATOR AND AGAIN SIMILAR TO THE CITY. THE REST OF THE AMENITIES THAT THEY GOT WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE RECEIVING NOW. AND SO THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS. SO WHAT IS THIS? COSTING THE CITY AND WHAT ARE WE GETTING BACK IN RETURN FOR IT? SO THE CHART THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE IS DIVIDED INTO THREE DIFFERENT SECTIONS. COSTS ARE THE CITY OF MCKINNEY'S DIRECT COSTS, AND THE PRIMARY DRIVER OF THOSE ARE THREEFOLD. UH, OUR OUR SPONSORSHIP. SO WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR TO GET THE AMENITIES BACK THE COST FOR POLICE AND FIRE SERVICES AND TO A SMALLER DEGREE, SOME MARKETING AND OTHER SMALLER ANCILLARY COSTS THAT ARE IN THERE, UH, ECONOMIC IMPACT AGAIN. THIS IS THE NEXT TWO ARE DIRECT REFERENCE FROM THE 2022. IMPACT STUDY THE COUNCIL CHAIRMAN, LOCK MILLER REFERENCED AND I REFERENCED EARLIER AND THE DIRECT TAX REVENUE IS DIRECT TO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY DIRECT TAX BENEFIT THAT RECEIVE EACH OF THOSE RESPECTIVE YEARS. SO THREE DIFFERENT COLUMNS THERE 2021 TO 2025. THAT'S THE TERM OF THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT. THE OPPOSED EXTENSION. IF YOU DO THE MATH IS EIGHT YEARS 2026 TO 2033 SEE THE COLUMNS THERE AND THEN THE TOTAL OVER THE COST THE TOTAL OVER THE 722 MILLION IN COSTS, ECONOMIC IMPACT A LITTLE MORE THAN $400 MILLION TAX REVENUE TO THE CITY ABOUT 12.5 $12.6 MILLION IN DIRECT TAX REVENUE TO THE CITY. ON THE BIG PICTURE. WHAT STAFF IS LOOKING FOR TODAY AGAIN IS DIRECTION IS THE CITY COUNCIL INTERESTED IN MCKINNEY CONTINUING TO SUPPORT THE BYRON NELSON AFTER OUR CURRENT AGREEMENT EXPIRES AFTER NEXT YEAR. 2025 TOURNAMENT ONE MORE, ONE MORE TOURNAMENT LEFT ON THE EXISTING AGREEMENT, AND THEN THOUGHTS AND FEEDBACK ON THE PROPOSED EXTENSION TERMS DISCUSSED EARLIER, SO THAT WILL BRING ME BACK TO THIS SLIDE. UH, WHICH AGAIN IS REALLY, UH, KIND OF THREEFOLD. ARE YOU OK WITH THE ESCALATOR THAT IS IN THERE 5% AFTER THE INITIAL $25,000 INCREASE, ARE YOU OK? WITH CONTINUING TO PROVIDE POLICE AND FIRE SERVICE? AND ARE YOU OK WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS AGAIN? 1.1 0.5 MILLION FOR INVITED OR THE COURSE OWNER. I SHOULD NOTE THAT THAT REQUEST HAS BEEN ASKED TO BE PAID THIS, UH, THIS YEAR, THERE ARE SOME STORMWATER RUNOFF IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE AT THE 710 MILLION DOLLARS INTO THE COURSE. ASSUMING THAT THE NELSON STAYS THERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT FOR THE SALESMANSHIP CLUB, UH, CAN BE PRORATED OVER MULTIPLE YEARS, BUT THE VALUE OF THAT IN TOTAL IS $1 MILLION. AND THE E DC, OF COURSE, WILL CONSIDER THAT REQUEST ON THEIR OWN. BUT THOSE WERE THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT THE ASK OF THE DC IS. HAPPY TO STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. SO COULD YOU GO BACK A MINUTE? TO THE SLIDER TWO FORWARD BACK. SORRY. UH BACK. I'M SORRY. TOWARDS THE END TOWARDS THE END THE COST BENEFIT. ON THE ECONOMIC IMPACT IS WHAT WE SEE AS DOLLAR SPENT AND CAPTURED. THE COMMITTEE. UM

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WE'VE GOTTEN TO ENGAGE PEOPLE. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT I THINK I WE WOULD HAVE NEVER MET HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THE TOURNAMENT THAT WOULD HELP TO PUSH THE CITY FORWARD AS WE'RE LOOKING AT PROJECTS AND FUNDING FOR PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO UM, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC IMPACT IS GREAT OPPORTUNITY. I'M I'M A I HATE A MISSED OPPORTUNITY, AND I THINK WITH THIS TOURNAMENT PROVIDES US IS OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE ENDLESS TO MAKE OUR CITY BETTER SO FOR YOU. I THINK CONSENSUS FROM SPEAKING FOR COUNCILS TO MOVE FORWARD. MR. MAY I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ONE THING AND FORGIVE ME. I DIDN'T MENTION THIS BEFORE. BUT I DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO ONE OF THE, UM, FOOD STANDS THAT TRIED THE, UM I THINK IT WAS BIBBLE GO. THE PEOPLE GO THE CJ BRAND KOREAN FOOD, WHICH WAS MAGNIFICENT IN THE WOMAN WHO WAS HELPING ME SAID, YOU KNOW, FORGIVE ME IF I'M A LITTLE BIT, UM, YOU KNOW, FUMBLING BECAUSE I'M A VOLUNTEER. I SAID, WELL, WHO ARE YOU VOLUNTEERING WITH? AND SHE SAID ARLINGTON HIGH CHEER BOOSTER CLUB, WHICH WAS GREAT THAT USED TO BE MY LIFE. BOOSTER CLUB. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HAPPENED AND I'M NOT SURE THIS GOES INTO THE INK AND THE NEGOTIATIONS OR INTO THE SPIRIT OF IT. BUT I TRUST THE SALESMANSHIP CLUB IS THAT ISDS THAT HAVE A FOOTPRINT HERE IN MCKINNEY, WHETHER IT'S MISD, FRISCO, ISD PROSPER ID OR WHEREVER HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THEIR BOOSTER CLUBS IN THIS THING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, RAISE FUNDS, AND SO IF WE'RE HOSTING I'D LOVE FOR THAT TO BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.

[Consider/Discuss a Potential Charter Amendment Election]

THAT'S THINGS LIKE WE WANNA VOTE FOR A MAYOR, PRO TEM, ETC. THINGS THAT ARE ADMINISTRATIVE IN NATURE OR PARLIAMENTARY IN NATURE, NOT NECESSARILY MOVING THE NEEDLE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, AND THEN A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT IMPACT THE COMPOSITION OF THE COUNCIL, THE COMPOSITION OF THE CITY AND, FOR INSTANCE, IN 2001, THERE WAS A CONFIRMATION OF WHAT THE ROLE IS BETWEEN THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY MANAGER. AT THAT TIME, THEY ALSO HAD AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE TERM LIMITS THEY INTRODUCED 33 YEAR. TERMS IN 2001, AND THEN THEY AMENDED WHAT THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF A STIPEND PER MEETING WOULD BE. IN 2004. THERE WERE TWO ITEMS. UH, ONE PASSED FOR GENERAL CLEANUP AND THEN ONE FAILED TO REMOVE THE CAP FOR THOSE STIPENDS THAT I MENTIONED IN 2001. IN 2011.

THERE WERE TWO ITEMS OR EXCUSE ME. THREE ITEMS. TWO FOR GENERAL CLEANUP, ADMINISTRATIVE CLEAN UP AND THEN ONE ITEM TO SHIFT FROM THE 33 YEAR TERMS TO TWO FOURYEAR TERMS, WHICH IS WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE TODAY. IN 2014. THERE WERE ANOTHER 10 PROPOSITIONS THAT PASSED THREE RELATING TO THE QUALIFICATIONS OF MEMBERS THAT COULD RUN FOR COUNCIL. WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A YEAR. YOU LIVE IN THE DISTRICT, ETCETERA, ETCETERA. TWO ITEMS FOR GENERAL CLEANUP. TWO ITEMS TO AGAIN CLARIFY WHAT THE COUNCIL'S POSITION WAS ON THE APPOINTMENT OF REMOVAL OF CERTAIN POSITIONS IN THE CITY, ONE ITEM TO REMOVE THE MEETING CAP STIPEND. ONE ITEM TO FILL COUNCIL VACANCIES BY APPOINTMENT BY THE COUNCIL AND THEN FINALLY, ONE ITEM TO GIVE MORE INVESTIGATION AUTHORITY TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND THEN IN 2019, THERE WAS A CITIZEN LED CHARTER AMENDMENT TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF SIGNATURES NEEDED TO DO A RECALL AND THEN ALSO TO CLARIFY THAT RECALL ELECTIONS WOULD BE CITYWIDE. SO THAT'S A REAL BRIEF, QUICK 20 YEAR HISTORY OF THESE CHARTER AMENDMENTS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST TWO DECADES. CAN I ASK YOU

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UH, THE ONLY REASON IT'S NOT UP THERE IS BECAUSE I WANTED TO MENTION THAT IN DALLAS. THEY JUST FINISHED THIS PROCESS IN 2024, AND THAT PART IS A PART OF THEIR ONGOING AND OR EVERY 10 YEARS. MY CHARTER THEY DO A CHARTER REVIEW, HOWEVER, IT WAS CITIZENS ON THE COMMITTEE. A CITIZEN COULD LITERALLY SUBMIT A AN AMENDMENT TO THE CHARTER TO BE CONSIDERED, SO I THINK THEY GOT SOMETHING LIKE 130 AMENDMENT REQUESTS FROM ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

SO THAT WAS A VERY CITIZEN LED, UH, CHARTER. COMMITTEE REVIEW PROCESS. CITY OF AUSTIN IS CURRENTLY DOING ONE AGAIN. THEY WENT FARTHER ONTO THE COUNCIL DIRECTION SIDE THEY DID APPOINT A COMMITTEE. BUT THEY SAID COMMITTEE FOCUS ON THIS, HOWEVER , IT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE CENTERED. THEY HAD A FEW WORKSHOPS, NIGHT MEETINGS WHERE THEY GOT INPUT FROM, UM CITIZENS , BUT THEY STILL STAYED FOCUSED ON THOSE BRACKETS OF WHAT THE COUNCIL DIRECTED. A COUPLE MORE LOCALLY 2023 WAY ON THE FAR SIDE OF COUNCIL DIRECTION, THE CITY OF IRVING APPOINTED THEMSELVES TO BE A CHARTER COMMISSION AS THE COUNCIL AND THEN THEY FOCUS SPECIFICALLY ON ITEMS SO IT WAS CO DIRECTED COUNCIL FOCUSED AND ULTIMATELY DECIDED BY THE COUNCIL. WHAT THE CHARTER AMENDMENT LANGUAGE WOULD BE. AND THEN FINALLY, CURRENTLY, THE CITY OF FRISCO IS GOING THROUGH A CHARTER AMENDMENT PROCESS. THEY HAVE CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT, AND THEY'RE RECRUITING RIGHT NOW . THEY DON'T HAVE A SET OF AT LEAST I COULDN'T FIND IT A SET OF ITEMS. THEY WANT THAT COMMITTEE TO FOCUS ON, BUT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE COMMITTEE APPLICATION PROCESS AS WE SPEAK. SO THAT'S REALLY TO JUST GIVE YOU A FLAVOR OF HOW THIS PROCESS SHOULD YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD CAN WORK. UH WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A PREFERENCE ON HOW YOU DO IT. WE PROMISE TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE ON THE STAFF SIDE, BUT IT'S REALLY UP FOR DISCUSSION FROM YOU ALL AND I'D BE HAPPY TO STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS, BUT MOSTLY, UH, WANT TO HEAR THE DISCUSSION FROM THE BODY. AND THEN ANY DIRECTION YOU'D LIKE TO GIVE US AND MR HOUSER GREAT THE ELECTION WOULD

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AND THAT'S THE REASON WE PUSHED IT SO THE COMMON I OVERHEARD JUST YOU KNOW, I GUESS YOU'RE THINKING OF THANKSGIVING AND CHRISTMAS. BUT REMEMBER, IT'S A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND WHAT I HEARD IT'S HIGHLY CONTESTED. THIS CAN BE A LOT OF PEOPLE VOTING SO THAT THAT WAS THE REASON TO PUSH THE DISCUSSION TO NOW. CLARIFICATION. SO A COUPLE OTHER THINGS BECAUSE I WAS ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO BROUGHT THIS FORWARD. UM THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT IS THE COMPOSITION OF OUR CITY. OUR POPULATION HAS GROWN SUBSTANTIALLY SINCE WE ON A TERM LIMIT. CHANGE UM WE, BY NO MEANS ARE TAKING AWAY THE ABILITY FOR ANYONE TO VOTE ON WHAT THEY PREFER TO HAPPEN, WHETHER IT KEEP THE TERMS EXACTLY AS ARE OR TO CHANGE IT. WHETHER THAT BE AN ADDITIONAL TERM OR CHANGE TO THREE YEAR TERMS BACK TO WHERE WE WERE BEFORE AND HAVE THREE TERMS. UM BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT WITH AS MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE MOVED INTO THE CITY, IT IS ONLY FAIR TO ASK THE QUESTION WHAT PEOPLE PREFER. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING THIS FORWARD. THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IS THE POPULATION. WITHIN EACH DISTRICT . IT HAS GROWN SUBSTANTIALLY. WE'RE NOW AT ABOUT 50,000 GREAT PER PER SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT WITH TWO AT LARGE. SO THE OTHER QUESTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING IS, DOES IT NEED TO STAY THAT WAY? UM, BECAUSE WE'RE ANTICIPATING STILL MORE GROWTH. AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO SERVE THE OTHER THING IS COMPENSATION. UM PERSONALLY, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT COMPENSATION. WHAT I DO WORRY ABOUT IN IN THE FUTURE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE ABSOLUTELY QUALIFIED TO SIT IN THIS SEAT, BUT DON'T HAVE THE FINANCIAL MEANS TO DO SO. AND ARE WE PROVIDING THEM WITH THE MEANS TO COVER ALL THE TIMES THAT THEY HAVE TO MISS WORK? BECAUSE THERE ARE WEEKS OF WHEN WE ARE ALL WORKING ON COUNCIL? 2030 HOURS, SOMETIMES 40 HOURS, GOING TO DIFFERENT EVENTS, PLUS MEETINGS AND ANSWERING EMAILS AND ATTENDING MEETINGS WITH CONSTITUENTS SO IT CAN BE EXTREMELY TIME CONSUMING. AND WHAT ARE WE SAYING TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T NECESSARILY YOU KNOW, HAVE THE FINANCIAL MEANS TO DO THIS WORK BUT HAVE THE HEART TO DO THIS WORK TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY . UM SO I JUST WANT OUR CITIZENS TO KIND OF LOOK AT THOSE ISSUES AND DETERMINE WHAT THEY FEEL IS A FAIR COMPENSATION FOR SOMEONE AND THINK ABOUT THE ENTIRE POPULATION. NOT JUST THE PEOPLE. THE TYPES OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE SERVED IN I WOULD AGREE WITH ALL THAT BECAUSE I'M THE I'M THE ONE WHO KEPT FOR THIS, AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF DALLAS DOING A 10 YEAR REVIEW IN THIS KIND OF PUTS US AT A 10 YEAR REVIEW MARK BECAUSE THE LAST TIME UH, THERE WAS A CHARTER ELECTION THAT REALLY DID THIS. IT WAS 10 YEARS AGO. I THINK THAT THE GROWTH THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS. HAS REALLY INCREASED THE BURDEN TO UM, I GUESS PROVIDE REPRESENTATION. YOU MENTIONED MEMBERS, DOCTOR FELTUS THAT WE'RE RIGHT AROUND 50,020 YEARS AGO, IT WAS 13,000 THAT A THAT A DISTRICT MEMBER WAS REPRESENTING 13,000 PEOPLE AND 10 YEARS AGO. THAT WAS 30,000 PEOPLE AND SO WHERE THAT IS AND ANOTHER 10 YEARS, MAYBE 75,000 PEOPLE IN THIS THE ONE OF THE PURPOSES OF DISTRICTS WAS TO PROVIDE DIRECT REPRESENTATION AND IT BECOMES HARDER AND HARDER , AND WE INCREASE THAT BARRIER MORE AND MORE AS WE RAISE THE COST TO CAMPAIGN WE RAISED COST OF TIME AND ENERGY THAT GOES INTO IT, AND I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE A GROUP THAT LOOKS AT IT. UM FROM ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED THE DISTRICT MAKE UP THE NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEMBERS THE TERM LIMIT. THE TERM LENGTH THE COMPENSATION AND UM MEAN ANYTHING ELSE THAT CAN BE ON THERE. WHETHER IT IS WE CONTINUE TO HAVE ELECTIONS IN MAY OR NOVEMBER OR SOME RANDOM THING LIKE THAT, BUT JUST I LIKE FOR

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YOU KNOW THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW IS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A COUNCIL SEAT. YOUR TERM LIMIT IS TWO TERMS, WHICH IS EIGHT YEARS. IF YOU ARE IN AN AT LARGE SEAT LIKE MYSELF OR MR PHILLIPS YOU COULD RUN AGAIN. MY DISTRICT, WHICH IS DISTRICT ONE IS MR JUSTIN BAYLOR'S DISTRICT. I CAN GO ANOTHER EIGHT YEARS. THAT'S ANOTHER. THAT'S 16 RIGHT THERE. AND THEN IF I CHOOSE, I CAN GO TO THE MAYOR. I CAN RUN ANOTHER EIGHT YEARS. IT IS NOT ABOUT EXTENDING THE TERM LIMITS. IT'S MORE ABOUT CLEAN UP AND SOLIDIFYING. WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO? GOING FORWARD? AS FAR AS YOU KNOW WHETHER WE KEEP IT THE SAME , EVEN IF WE KEEP IT THE SAME. SHOULD WE CLEAN IT UP AND SAY, YOU KNOW, YOUR TERM IS A TERM AND YOU HAVE TO REST OR WE KEEP IT THE SAME. BY THE STANDARDS THAT PEOPLE HAVE JUST SPOKE. THERE IS NO TERM LIMIT, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT WHEN I HEAR THAT, KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS. FINE WITH NO TERM LIMITS. SO YOU KIND OF CONTRADICTING YOURSELF. MY GOAL, AND THE COUNCIL'S GOAL IS TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT'S FAIR AND UM, AND IT'S STREAMLINED AND THE CITIZENS UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY VOTING FOR, BECAUSE I THINK IF WE WERE TO HAVE AN ELECTION TODAY, YOU WERE SAYING THAT EVERYBODY WOULD RA RA NO TERM LIMITS AND YOU JUST VOTED YOURSELF. IT IS A TERM LIMIT TO NO TERM LIMIT FOR ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PUT TOGETHER SOME KIND OF COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT IS WHAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH GOING FORWARD, AND I THINK THAT THE CITIZENS DESERVE TO SEE THAT THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD POINT. EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THIS COUNCIL FOR MYSELF TO EVERYONE TO MY LEFT AND TO MY RIGHT CAN RUN RIGHT NOW IN IN MAY. NEED ANY CHARTER AMENDMENT TO RUN IN MAY. AND RUN RIGHT NOW. BY RUNNING ALTERNATE SEATS. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT. THE YOU KNOW, THE CYNICAL THING IS OH, MY GOD, THEY THEY'RE TRYING TO GIVE THEMSELVES MORE MONEY FOR ME. I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE MONEY, I. I DONATE AND SPEND FAR MORE MONEY THAN I EVER MAKE. UM, BACK TO THE CITY. THINGS WE DO, THEN WE MAKE. I DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE MONEY. UM BUT TO YOUR POINT UM AND I SAY THAT I DON'T MEAN TO SOUND FINANCIALLY ARROGANT OR ANYTHING. IT'S JUST HAPPENS. I'M BLESSED ENOUGH AND LAID ENOUGH IN MY YEARS. I'LL SAY IT THAT WAY. I DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT IT. BUT BUT FOR A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, IT IT IS IMPORTANT. AND WHEN YOU SPEND A WEEK WITH THE BUDGET, UM MEETING FOR HALF A DAY, AND STARTING COUNCIL AT THREE AND MUTD MEETINGS AND THIS MEETING TO MEETING THAT MEETING, AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF, THERE IS A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MAKE THE THAT CAN'T MAKE THE DECISION TO SERVE BECAUSE FINANCIALLY IT'S IT IS NOT AVAILABLE TO THEM AGAIN, VERY CONTRADICTING A LOT OF THE COMMENTS I MADE. I HEARD MADE BOY IF YOU WANT TO OPEN IT UP TO ALL THE RESIDENTS NEW BLOOD. WELL, LET'S THINK IN TERMS OF NEW BLOODED PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD, YOU KNOW, AND STATISTICALLY, WE KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK IN OUR COUNTRY, SO I THINK YOU CAN APPLY THAT, STATISTICALLY TO SOME EXTENT HERE AND REALIZE THAT THE OPPORTUNITY OF NEW BLOOD ULTIMATELY, OF COURSE, AL TERM LIMIT ARE ALWAYS DECIDED. ULTIMATELY AT THE BALLOT BOX, UM, VIRTUALLY UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR EVERY OFFICE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS OTHER THAN AND SOME OF THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICES OR SEATS. IT. BUT YES, TALK ABOUT OPENING UP TO NEW BLOOD. UM PEOPLE THAT COULD THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, MAYBE AFFORD TO SERVE. WE JUST OPENED UP 80% OF THE MARKET. 80% OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY MAY NOW HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE. THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE YESTERDAY. IF THERE WAS A PAYCHECK, AT LEAST SUFFICIENT ENOUGH TO AND TO COVER WHAT THEY HAVE TO GIVE UP BEING AWAY FROM WORK AGAIN FOR ME. OK, BUT THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE THAT IT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE, AND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED. ONE MORE COMMENT ON COMPENSATION IN 2023. COUNTY COMMISSIONERS VOTED THEMSELVES A PAY RAISE. EACH COUNTY COMMISSIONER MAKES $140,000 A YEAR. NOW, I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE WORK THAT IS DONE ON CITY COUNCIL IMPACTS OUR CITY WAY MORE THAN THE COUNTY IMPACTS THE COUNTY OF COLLIN COUNTY. IS OVER A MILLION PEOPLE IN COLLIN COUNTY. IF YOU EXTRAPOLATE THAT FROM 140,000 TO 220,000 PEOPLE IN MCKINNEY, YOU'RE TALKING AROUND 35 TO $36,000 A YEAR. CURRENTLY HAVE $50 PER MEETING.

I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD BE COMPENSATED AT $36,000 A YEAR. BUT THE REASON WHY THIS IS A

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YOU KNOW, I'M BLESSED TO BE IN A IN A POSITION WHERE I CAN MAKE MY OWN SCHEDULE, AS IS THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE, BUT THAT IS NOT THE SAME AGREEMENT. EVERYBODY IN IN MCKINNEY HAS SO AGAIN. IT'S JUST OPENING YOUR MIND AND JUST AND JUST THINKING ABOUT THE THINGS THAT ARE THERE RIGHT NOW THAT FOR SOME REASON, THEY GET NO COMPLAINTS. BUT AS SOON AS IT'S THE CITY, IT'S SOME . IT'S ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S A IT'S A BIG ISSUE. IT'S NOT A BIG ISSUE BECAUSE YOU YOU PAY COUNTY TAXES AND YOU'RE OK WITH COUNTY COMMISSIONER $140,000 A YEAR AND THEY MEET LESS THAN US. WONDER WHAT THAT IS. I SAY TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT YOU SAID OR GIVE ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE. I GO, UM NOT EVERY COUNTY COMMISSIONER VOTED. SO IT WAS JUST THE MAJORITY, SO I WANNA THERE'S A COUPLE THAT DIDN'T AND I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN THREE PAY RAISES OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS. BUT I AM SO CERTAIN THAT WITH THE PASSION I HEARD THIS GROUP TODAY THAT THEY ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE AT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S MEETING NEXT MONDAY, RIGHT AND YOU'RE GONNA VOICE YOUR OPPOSITION TO THE NO TERM LIMITS AND GIVING THEMSELVES RAISES. I'M SURE YOU CAN DO THAT. SO I WANT TO APOLOGIZE PUBLICLY TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE STAMPEDED WITH THE PASSION I HEARD IN HERE TODAY. UM WHERE WILL THEY IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO WATCH NEXT WEEK. YES, PLEASE. I JUST WANTED TO WON A COUPLE OF THINGS OUT IS ONE. YOU DO HAVE A BODY OF PROFESSIONALS UP HERE IN THE STIPEND THAT WE RECEIVE IS $50 PER MEETING THAT COVERS. I BELIEVE THIS WORK SESSION AND THEN OUR REGULAR MEETING THIS EVENING. IT DOES NOT COVER THE MEETING THAT WE HAVE AT 430 OF T NUMBER ONE OR THE MEETING OF THE MCKINNEY URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT THAT WE HAVE AT FIVE O'CLOCK OR TOURIST NUMBER TWO THAT WE HAVE.

I'M 30 THIS EVENING. IT DOES NOT COVER THE OTHER POSITIONS THAT EACH OF US ARE ASKED TO FILL BEING LIAISONS TO EACH OF OUR 20 BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT EACH OF THE MEMBERS ON THIS COUNCIL DONATE FAR MORE TO OUR NONPROFITS IN MCKINNEY THAN WE EVER MAKE FROM THE STIPEND THAT'S GIVEN TO US AND YOU LITERALLY HAVE A ANY OF PROFESSIONALS, MOST OF US SELF EMPLOYED OR IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS WITH OUR CORPORATIONS WHO ARE BASICALLY DONATING OUR TIME. AND IF YOU WANNA OPEN IT UP TO NEW BLOOD. THERE'S A LOT OF YOUNG PROFESSIONALS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE PUNCHING THE CLOCK WHO SIMPLY CANNOT AFFORD TO BE HERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T OCCUPY A POSITION IN LIFE WHERE THEY CAN TAKE THE TIME THAT IT TAKES TO GIVE BACK TO THE CITY. UH, AS FAR AS TERM LIMITS GO, UM THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE SERVED THIS CITY IN LONGER CAPACITIES, AND THERE IS A LOT OF THE FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO STILL SERVE ON OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, AND NO ONE HAS EVER COME TO US AND SAID WAIT A MINUTE. I DON'T WANT BRIAN LOCKMILLER TO SERVE AS CHAIRMAN OF THE DC BECAUSE HE'S TAKEN HIS TURN. AND WE NEED SOME NEW BLOOD . SO I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THAT AND ALSO CONSIDER THE FATE OF ONE OF OUR OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO YOU TERM LIMITED TO TWO YEARS, AND YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT TO DO THAT TO EACH AND ALL OF US, AND I WILL POINT OUT THAT, UH, FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT WAS NOT ABRUPTLY BOOTED OUT OF OFFICE AFTER COMPLETING HIS TERM LIMITS AND YOU YOURSELF MIGHT FIND YOURSELF IN A POSITION WHERE YOU HAVE A LEADER THAT YOU NEED. UH, THAT'S NOT AVAILABLE TO YOU BECAUSE OF TERM LIMITS, AND I'LL ECHO WHAT THE MAYOR SAID. YOU HOLD TERM LIMITS OVER EACH AND

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UH, SHE WORKED AT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB NOW, HOW DID THAT WORK OUT? WELL THE FACT IS THAT EMPLOYER WAS EXTREMELY ACCOMMODATIVE OF HER TO BE ABLE TO KEEP PAYING HER AND BE ABLE TO DO THIS AND THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A UNICORN SITUATION. BUT I WOULD WHAT I WOULD SAY FOR THE FOR THE FOLKS THAT DISTRICT ONE WAS REAL LUCKY TO HAVE HAD HER REAL LUCKY TO HAVE HAD HER PASSION. THE CITY COUNCIL IS LUCKY TO HAVE HAD HER PASSION UP HERE. UH, IT WASN'T BUT, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS AGO THAT WE THE SWIMMING POOL ON THE EAST SIDE THAT MAY AND SHE DROVE HARD TO GET THAT SWIMMING POOL OVER THERE, AND WE RENAMED IT AFTER HER. I'M REALLY MIXED ABOUT THE WHOLE. COMPENSATION BECAUSE THEY'RE RIGHT. YOU KNOW MORE PEOPLE COULD SERVE IF WE PAID MORE. BUT HOW MUCH WOULD WE HAVE TO PAY? AND THAT'S THIS RABBIT HOLE THAT I GO DOWN? THINK MAN.

IF IT WAS 30,000, YOU'RE STILL NOT GETTING THAT'S STILL NOT MOVING THE NEEDLE FOR ANYBODY, TOO. I COULD DO THIS FULL TIME NOW, RIGHT? UH, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A REAL MEANINGFUL NUMBER. SO I'M REALLY FINE TO LET GO OF THAT QUESTION AND ABDICATE IT TO CITIZENS TO TALK ABOUT IN CHUAN.

UH I WILL ALSO MAKE A COMMENT THAT ONE AGAIN. I'LL LET CITIZENS CHEW ON THIS. BUT HERE'S SOMETHING I DON'T LIKE. I DON'T LIKE HAVING ALL DISTRICTS. I SERVED AT LARGE. MY 1ST 15 MONTHS I LIVE IN DISTRICT TWO. I WORK DOWNTOWN HERE. THAT'S BEEN THE CASE FOR I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 28 YEARS. I'VE WORKED DOWNTOWN HERE FOR 26. I AM AND AT LARGE GUY IN MY MIND, UH, I. I THINK ABOUT THE WHOLE CITY WHEN I'M VOTING ON SOMETHING. UM, I DON'T WANT TO MOVE TO SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS. BUT I'M WILLING TO LET THE PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT AND SEE WHAT THEY THINK. UM, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING. BUT SO CAN WE TALK ABOUT IT? CAN WE GET THE CITIZEN INPUT? YEAH, I LOVE IT. I GUESS SO. UM THERE WAS ONE GENTLEMAN WHO'S NOT HERE TODAY. WHO I WON'T NAME BY NAME, BUT HE WAS A HE WAS VERY VOCIFEROUS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WHEN WE WERE KICKING THIS AROUND, AND HE'S THE ONE WHO SAID WE REALLY NEED A CITIZEN COMMITTEE. IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DOING THIS AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO ARGUE AGAINST HAVING THE CITIZENS SIT DOWN. SHE WANTED THOSE WHO WANT TO AND WEIGH INTO US IS TO WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT? BECAUSE DR FELTUS IS CORRECT. YOU KNOW, THE YOU KNOW, WOULDN'T WE LAST WENT THROUGH THIS AND FORGIVE ME. I DON'T REMEMBER THE YEAR OR TWO S ON IT. BUT BUT POPULATION WAS LESS THAN HALF OF WHAT IT IS TODAY WHEN WE REALLY DID THIS, AND THAT'S A LOT OF NEW FOLKS HERE. UM SO CAN WE TALK ABOUT IT? SURE UM, I A FAN OF EVERYTHING WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT. NO. SO THANK YOU, MR

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SO I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING. ALSO BELIEVE IN THE UM CITIZEN DISCUSSION. THE COMMITTEES. BECAUSE THEY NEED TO HAVE INPUT. BUT ALSO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY. TO LISTEN TO THE INFORMATION. GET ALL THE INFORMATION GET ALL THE FACTS. SO EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS ARE AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN CERTAIN THINGS HAPPEN. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT. BUT I'M IN. I'M IN FAVOR OF TAKING IT TO THE ELECTION. TREVOR. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE FOLLOW UPS. IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEASE IS PULLING UP HIS GRAPH. THE BECAUSE IT WAS GOOD, RIGHT? YEAH. SO WHAT WE NEED TO GET FROM THE COUNCIL TONIGHT. SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS, UM, COMPENSATION. BRING THAT FORWARD . WHAT I AM HEARING. IS THE COUNCIL BEING FAIRLY SPECIFIC. SO YOU WOULD MOVE TOWARD THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS GRAPH BECAUSE YOU'RE MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT ARE THE IT'S NARROWLY TAILORED RIGHT? YOU'RE NARROWLY TAILORING THE TYPES OF TOPICS YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPENSATION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, TERM NUMBER OF TERM LIMITS. WE TALKED ABOUT CONVERSATION. WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE IS LENGTH OF TERM LENGTH AND DISTRICTS. ARE THOSE ARE ALL FOUR OF THOSE TOPICS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO AND ARE THERE ANY OTHERS? IF YOU'RE NOT SURE. THEN WHAT THAT WOULD SUGGEST IS YOU WANT TO BE MOVED FURTHER TO THE LEFT ON THE ON THIS GRAPH AND BE LESS SPECIFIC AND LET THE COMMISSION OR COMMITTEE HELP DETERMINE THAT. THAT'S KIND OF YOU. IF YOU KNOW THAT'S REALLY UP TO THE COUNCIL. IF YOU WANT TO BE FAIRLY NARROWLY TAILORED, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE TOWARD THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS GRAPH. THEN IT'S GONNA THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS GONNA BE IN WHAT TYPE OF CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT DO YOU WANT? DO YOU WANT TO MOVE UP OR DOWN IN THIS? YOU COULD IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A COMMITTEE, UM WHERE IT'S YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT. UH, YOU COULD JUST AS THE COUNCIL BRING THE BRING IT FORWARD AND CALL THE ELECTION.

BUT IF WE WANT TO HAVE A COMMITTEE, IT IS SMALLER. MAYBE MORE. UH MAYBE THAT'S BETTER SUITED FOR MORE NARROWLY TAILORED SUBJECTS. BUT IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A COMMISSION THAT GENERALLY SUGGESTS THAT YOU WIDER DISCUSSION. UM, WHICH ALSO SUGGESTS MORE TIME. JUST SO YOU KNOW, HAVING A NUMBER LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. I THINK DALLAS FINISHED THEIR PROCESS FOR THE NOVEMBER BALLOT, SO THEY'RE ALREADY DONE AND WE'RE JUST NOW GETTING STARTED. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. UM AND SO THE QUESTION FOR YOU IS NARROWLY TAILORED YES OR NO, I AM THINKING THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. AND WHAT TYPE OF CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT ARE YOU WANTING? WOULDN'T LIKE IT NARROWLY TAILORED. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IS INCLUDED AT LEAST THOSE FOUR ITEMS. OK BUT DOING A ENTIRE CHARTER REVIEW AND LET'S LET'S HEAR FROM THE COMMITTEE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY THINK SHOULD BE ADDRESSED. WHEN I LOOK AT THE CHARTER, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD POP OUT, BUT I DON'T WANNA NECESSARILY RESTRICT IT AND SAY WE DON'T WANT TO CONSIDER ANYTHING ELSE. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO, UH, MICHAEL, YOU YOU BROUGHT. THIS UP IS ABOUT HOW WE CAN RUN FOR THIS AND RUN FOR THAT. THEN RUN FOR THIS. YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE TALKED ABOUT. DO WE CLOSE THOSE DOORS AS TO WHAT THE REAL ULTIMATE TERM LIMITS BECAUSE UP UNTIL REALLY UP UNTIL WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN JANUARY FEBRUARY, I THOUGHT YOU COULD RUN FOR COUNCIL TWICE AND THEN MAYOR TWICE. AND THAT WAS REALLY ALL YOU COULD DO. SO, UM, I DIDN'T.

REALIZED THAT IT WAS DIFFERENT, BUT I WOULDN'T MIND HAVING THAT DISCUSSED, BUT I'M ONE OF SEVEN SO THE OTHER SIDE MARKET IS AN ACCURATE STATEMENT TO SAY THAT THEORETICALLY. ANY OF US COULD BE ON COUNCIL FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES, ASSUMING VOTERS VOTED FOR THEM. MOVING FROM POSITION TO POSITION. THAT IS CORRECT AS LONG AS MOVE FROM SEAT TO SEAT TO 160. I COULD SERVE ANOTHER 100 YEARS. IF I COULD GET PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR ME IF YOU'RE UP TO IT. OH YES, HE'S FINE PEOPLE HERE. I DON'T KNOW WHY I WOULDN'T BE AND IT'S FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT, WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING A RESOLUTION THAT WOULD EMBODY THE PROCESS THAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. WHETHER IT'S A COMMITTEE. HOW MANY MEMBERS DO YOU WANT TO APPOINT THEM INDIVIDUALLY? EACH OF THEM AND THEN YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET THINGS GOING AND A, UH, PROBABLY THE PROPOSITIONS THEMSELVES BACK TO YOU IN LATE JULY OR EARLY AUGUST . SO THIS COMMITTEE IF THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT TO GO GIVEN IN NOVEMBER ELECTION FOR SURE IF YOU WANT TO GO TO NEXT YEAR, YOU GOT MORE TIME. BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO MEET WITH THIS COMMITTEE, PROBABLY EVERY WEEK OR SO. THE

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WE WILL ABSOLUTELY DELIVER WHAT YOU ASK US TO DO. WE'RE GOING TO DELIVER IT. BUT SOMETHING'S GONNA PROBABLY HAVE TO BE PUSHED BACK A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE ROOM AND THAT'S OK. BUT JUST I. I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T REMIND THE COUNSEL THAT THERE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE RESOURCES AND TIME AND THE HOURS GETTING LATE, AND WE NEED TO GET MOVING ON IT. IS THERE ANY MERIT TO IT? AND THIS IS A COMPLETELY OFF THE DOME AND THERE BEING I MAY SHOOT IT DOWN MYSELF BEFORE I FINISH THE SENTENCE, BUT SHE MENTIONED GILD GARZA. SHE'S OBVIOUSLY NOT WITH

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MAYBE THREE PEOPLE PER COUNCIL PERSON. I'M OK WITH THAT. MR HAUSER, DO WE, UH UM, JUST THINKING PROCEDURALLY AND TIME WISE. IF THIS APPEARS ON OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE MID MAY CORRECT, UH ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK AT THE FIRST MEETING IN JUNE TO APPROVE THE COMMITTEE FOR THE COMMITTEE CAN MEET, OR WOULD IT BE WISE FOR THIS COUNCIL IF THEY INTENDED TO MAKE A VOTE ON HAVING AN ELECTION THAT THEY'D BE PREPARED TO SUBMIT THEIR NAMES AT THAT TIME. THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT TREVOR WILL HAVE ALL THE TIMELINE READY. SO WE CAN FROM A TIMELINE PERSPECTIVE, IF THE INTENT IS GOING TO BE THAT WE MOVE FORWARD FOR A NOVEMBER ELECTION, MY REQUEST WOULD BE THAT IF WE STICK WITH THREE, GO TO FIVE, GO TO ONE. WHATEVER IT IS, LET ME TAKE A STEP AHEAD. IS EVERYONE OK? WITH THREE MAKE IT MANAGEABLE. IT'S THE INTENT WOULD BE THAT ON MAY 21ST SO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO SEND US AN EMAIL AHEAD OF TIME. BUT ON MAY 21ST PREPARE TO HAVE YOUR THREE NAMES. WE'LL PUT ALL THOSE ONTO THE SCREEN. WE WOULD ALSO IN CONCERT LIKELY HAVE A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING THE COMMITTEE WITH THE NAMES ESTABLISHING THE FRAMEWORK. THE CHARGE THE FRAMEWORK THAT THE COUNCIL HAS DISCUSSED TONIGHT. SO THE VARIOUS ITEMS THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY IF THERE IS CONSENSUS TO LEAVE IT OPEN FOR POTENTIAL ADDITIONS BY THE COMMITTEE. WE'D PUT SOME LANGUAGE IN THE RESOLUTION FOR THAT, AND THAT WOULD THEN GET ADOPTED ON THE 21ST AS WELL. SO THAT YOU KNOCK OUT TWO ITEMS IN ONE MEETING TO SAVE A LITTLE BIT ON THE TIME THEREAFTER. TO MR HOUSER'S POINT, WE WOULD LIKELY MEET WEEKLY BY WEEKLY OVER THE COURSE OF JUNE INTO THE MIDDLE OF JULY AND THEN PREPARE TO BRING BACK THE RESULTS. PROBABLY IN A WORK SESSION, UH, FIRST MEETING OF AUGUST LAST MEETING OF JULY, AND THEN IF IT'S THE INTENT OF THE COUNCIL WILL HAVE AN ACTION ITEM BEFORE AUGUST 19. AND CAN I IS THERE ANYONE ON COUNCIL THAT WOULD NOT BE COMFORTABLE IF THEY WERE ASKED TO SUBMIT THE NAMES TO TREVOR VIA EMAIL WITHIN THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS. GOOD. YEAH. FOR ME, AND, UM, YOU COULD PROVIDE CONTACT INFORMATION. WE COULD VERIFY THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO DO IT. YEAH. THAT CAN EVERYONE DO THAT? PICK A LITTLE BIT ON THE FLY. WE COULD PROBABLY SET THESE MEETINGS UP TO WHERE WE WOULD HAVE A ROOM. BUT WE WOULD ALSO HAVE AN ABILITY TO HAVE A CALL IN, UH, PARTICIPATION BECAUSE THIS IS VACATION SUMMER, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE THAT COULD ATTEND EACH MEETING

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BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE VARIANTS THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET. WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT TERM LIMITS.

ONE WILL HAVE THIS AND ONE WILL HAVE THIS AND THEN YOU WILL. COMMITTEE MAY DESPITE CONSENSUS IS WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE IN THE EVENT THAT TWO OR MORE COUNCIL MEMBERS MAKE THE SAME NOMINATION SO THAT EACH COUNCIL MEMBER OBTAINS THREE SEATS ON THE COMMITTEE. I WOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE WENT BACK TO THE WELL, SO SAY, FOR INSTANCE, IF THE MAYOR AND THE MAYOR BROUGHT TO HIM, UH, POINTED EMPRESS WHICH DON'T DO THAT, BUT IF THEY DID, I WOULD LET ONE OF, YOU KNOW.

HEY IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPOINTED. PLEASE SELECT ANOTHER MEMBER THAT WE CAN DO IT IN T SEVEN DAYS AND HAVE SOME TIME BACK GEORGE CHARLIE'S ALREADY NOMINATED THESE TWO AND I'LL PICK TWO OTHERS. WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE BEING TRANSPARENT. THANK YOU. AND THEN AGAIN TO THE POINT ABOUT CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT. UM, WE WOULD TAKE THE LIBERTY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WIDER CITIZENRY. R KNEW THAT IT WAS AN OPEN MEETING THAT THEY WERE MORE THAN WELCOME TO ATTEND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A GOOD ENOUGH DIRECTION. I THINK SO. I DON'T KNOW, MR PETER GRIMES AND ANYTHING ELSE WE HAVE TO MOVE ON, OK? THANKS, JEREMY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GONNA SKIP LIAISON UPDATES RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO HAVE AN MD MEETING TO GET STARTED. WE DO EXECUTIVE SESSION LATER. UM AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A TOURS MEETING ANOTHER TOURIST MEETING. SO IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED HOW LONG DO YOU NEED? FIVE MINUTES.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.