Jul 09, 2024 Planning & Zoning Commission

[CALL TO ORDER]

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COMMISSION MEETING OF TUESDAY, JULY THE 9TH, 2020, FOR THE COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU SEE SEATED BEFORE YOU HAVE BEEN APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. TERRY, CAN YOU TURN THAT UP A LITTLE BIT, PLEASE? TURN IT UP A LITTLE BIT? YES, A LITTLE BIT. WE SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL. WHOA! YEAH YEAH. TONIGHT WE HAVE A FULL HOUSE. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF AGENDA ITEMS THAT, WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON. IF YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT AND YOU ARE PLANNING ON SPEAKING A FEW HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS FOR YOU BEFORE YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, IF YOU WILL FILL OUT ONE OF THE YELLOW SPEAKER CARDS. IF FOR SOME REASON WE RUN OUT OF CARDS, SOMEONE RAISED A HAND BACK THERE AND WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET MORE. OKAY, PERFECT. WE'LL GET MORE CARDS. PUT YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THE ITEM NUMBER YOU ARE SPEAKING ON. THANK YOU. AND IF YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR POSITION AND ALSO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BEFORE PLANNING ZONING OR SIMPLY JUST REGISTER A POSITION ON THE ITEM WHEN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR CONCERNS WITH US. WE NEED YOU TO FACE PLANNING AND ZONING SO THE CAMERAS CAN SEE YOUR FACE, AND ALSO THE MICROPHONES CAN PICK UP WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. WE'RE ALL BEING BROADCAST LIVE TONIGHT. WE DO APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. WE APPRECIATE THE CITIZENS BEING INVOLVED IN GOVERNMENT IN MCKINNEY. LET'S FOCUS ON THE ISSUES, BE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYBODY'S TIME AND THEIR POSITIONS ON THE ITEM. IF IT MAY BE DIFFERENT FROM YOURS, THAT'S OKAY. WE DO AGAIN, APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE, WE WILL ALLOW YOU TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM ONE TIME AND THEN LET SOMEONE ELSE SPEAK AGAIN. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS WITH US.

WE WILL HAVE STAFF ADDRESS YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. IF FOR SOME REASON YOUR QUESTION TO YOUR SATISFACTION IS NOT ANSWERED, ANY ITEM TONIGHT THAT WE HAVE A MOTION ON IT WILL GO ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL. SO YOU WILL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO COME DOWN TO CITY HALL AND ADDRESS YOUR PARTICULAR ITEM. THIS IS NOT THE ONLY CHANCE YOU'LL HAVE IF YOUR QUESTION IS NOT ANSWERED. YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY AFTER THE MEETING AND TALK TO ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS. BUT IN ORDER TO MOVE THE PROCESS ALONG, ONCE WE CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND HAVE DISCUSSION, WE WILL NOT ADDRESS ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE, NOR WILL WE ADDRESS ANYONE'S HAND THAT FLIES UP IN THE AIR, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU'RE HERE. WE DO APPRECIATE IT. SO LET'S STICK WITH THOSE ITEMS. WE HAVE A LOT OF CARDS TONIGHT, SO PLEASE BE PATIENT WITH THAT. WE'LL START THE MEETING. OUR FIRST ITEM WILL BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK, TO PLANNING AND ZONING ON AN ITEM THAT DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED. AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE THE MINUTES OF THE LAST PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM

[CONSENT ITEMS]

MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, AS AMENDED. THE MOTION BY MR. LEBEAU TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, AS AMENDED. SECOND, SECONDED BY RUSS. MR. BUCKNER, THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION CARRIES MY VOTE OF SIX IN FAVOR. ZERO AGAINST, THE NEXT PART OF

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Design Exception to a Site Plan for a Restaurant with Drive-Through (McDonalds), Located at 12081 West University Drive]

HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A DESIGN EXCEPTION WHICH REQUIRES CONSIDERATION BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A REDUCTION TO THE 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, ALONG WITH UNIVERSITY DRIVE FRONTAGE, TO A

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MY ADDRESS IS 1008 MACON STREET, FORT WORTH, TEXAS. 76102. AND I AM THE APPLICANT TONIGHT REPRESENTING MCDONALD'S. AND THIS IS A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD REQUEST, LIKE ARI SAID, WE ENDED UP HAVING TO ASK FOR THE EXCEPTION DUE TO TEXAS ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY REQUEST.

SO, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I WILL DEFINITELY ANSWER THEM. BUT IF NOT, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. ARE THERE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MISS FORD. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. IF YOU COME TONIGHT AND WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS, A DESIGN EXCEPTION FOR MCDONALD'S ON HIGHWAY 380, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DREW DANOWSKI WITH CLAYMORE ENGINEERING, 1903 CENTRAL DRIVE, BEDFORD, TEXAS. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE OVERALL DEVELOPER, JUST TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THE HISTORY WE KIND OF COORDINATED AHEAD OF TIME WITH TXDOT. WE RESERVED A RIGHT OF WAY TAKING.

IT GREW BY ABOUT TEN FEET, IN THE OFFICIAL NOTICE DOCUMENTS. SO THAT'S WHY LESLIE IS HERE TONIGHT AND WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT. MR. DANOWSKI, ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS PLANNING AND ZONING ON THIS PROPOSED DESIGN EXCEPTION FOR MCDONALD'S ON HIGHWAY 380? NO ONE. OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE 0081 SP, INCLUDING CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT MOTION BY MR. LOBO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM. AS FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? MR. WHATLEY, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. WELL, THAT MOTION CARRIES THE DESIGN EXCEPTION HAS BEEN APPROVED, THIS ITEM IS FOR. IT STOPS HERE AT PLANNING AND ZONING. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM IS

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “C2” - Local Commercial District to “C3” - Regional Commercial District, Located at 1565 North Hardin Boulevard]

COMMISSION, JAKE BENNETT, PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF US 380 AND HARDIN BOULEVARD FROM C2 LOCAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO C3 REGIONAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST IS GENERALLY TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AS STAFF HAS NOTED BEFORE, AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR ZONING COMPARISON TABLE, THERE AREN'T MANY NOTABLE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE C2 AND C3 DISTRICTS BEYOND THE CHANGE IN HEIGHT BETWEEN 45FT AND 55FT PERMITTED. WHILE THERE ARE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE WEST, THE PROPERTIES ARE SEPARATED BY BODARK ROAD, WHICH IS A 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY. STAFF NOTES THAT A COMBINATION OF REQUIRED AND EXISTING SETBACKS, IN ADDITION TO BODARK ROAD, WILL RESULT IN A MINIMUM SETBACK OF OVER 100FT DUE TO THE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY NEAR A MAJOR COMMERCIAL INTERSECTION. EXISTING SURROUNDING USES. MINIMUM SETBACK FROM RESIDENTIAL AND MINIMAL CHANGES BETWEEN THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED ZONINGS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED REZONING AND I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. JAKE. QUESTIONS JAKE. WHAT'S THE HEIGHT DIFFERENCE ON C2 TO C3? YEAH, 45FT IS PERMITTED IN C2. 55 IS GOING TO BE PERMITTED IN C3. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME, I HAVE A QUESTION, JAKE, IN THE COLONY CROSSING DISTRICT, BASICALLY IN THE LAND USE PLAN. EXCUSE ME? IT'S CALLS FOR COMMERCIAL CENTER EMPLOYMENT MIX NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL PROFESSIONAL CAMPUS, SUBURBAN LIVING AND URBAN LIVING. SO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE C3 TO ME. I WAS WONDERING WHY NOT NECESSARILY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS DESIGNATED AS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT MUCH OF THAT AREA IS ALREADY ZONED C2,

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AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER ABOUT THE SAME DISTANCE OFF OF US 380, THAT WENT THROUGH THE SAME REZONE FROM C2 TO C3. LAST OCTOBER, NOVEMBER. AND THAT WENT THROUGH, I BELIEVE IT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY. SO THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH ARE BOTH C2. THAT'S CORRECT. SO I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY WHAT ALL BUILT INTO STAFF RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. YEAH. SO THE I'M GUESSING ALL OF THAT WAS ORIGINALLY ZONED C2 ALTOGETHER. AND NOW THEY'VE PARCELED IT OUT, WE BELIEVE THAT C3 IS COMPATIBLE FOR THIS SITE, AND WITH THE SURROUNDING USES AND ZONES. AND CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LAND USE, I KNOW CAR WASHES, UNDER C2 AND C3 HAS A C CATEGORY AND THEN A HOTEL HAS A. P CATEGORY. THAT'S CORRECT. SO UNDER BOTH ZONING DISTRICTS, THE EXISTING AND THE PROPOSED, HOTEL USE IS PERMITTED OUTRIGHT, THE C THAT IS NOTED THERE ON THE TABLE USES MEANS CRITERIA, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CRITERIA FOR CAR WASH. ONE OF THEM BEING THAT THEY CAN'T BE LOCATED WITHIN HALF A MILE OF ANOTHER CAR WASH. ORIGINALLY WE RECEIVED BOTH THIS C3, REZONE AND AN SCP FOR A CAR WASH ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN THE SAME WEEK. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT SCP FOR THE CAR WASH HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY WITHDRAWN. WE'VE RECEIVED AN OFFICIAL WITHDRAWAL LETTER, SO AT THIS TIME THEY ARE JUST MOVING FORWARD WITH THE STRAIGHT C3 REZONE FOR THE HOTEL. FOR THE REQUEST. TONIGHT IS A STRAIGHT REZONE FROM C2 TO C3 HOTEL IS PERMITTED IN BOTH THE C2 AND C3, AND IS A CRITERIA DIFFERENT FROM C2 TO C3 ON HOTEL. THERE ARE NO CRITERIA FOR HOTELS. THEY'RE PERMITTED OUTRIGHT IN BOTH DISTRICTS. WHAT'S THE C STAND FOR CRITERIA THAT WOULD BE CRITERIA OR THEIR CRITERIA P IS PERMITTED. P IS FULLY PERMITTED.

YES ARE THE SETBACKS SIMILAR BETWEEN C2 AND THE C3? THEY WOULD BE EXACTLY THE SAME MA'AM.

YEP THE SETBACKS WOULD BE BASED ON HEIGHT. SO WHICHEVER HEIGHT THEY DEVELOP UNDER, IF IT IS OVER TWO STORIES, IT WOULD BE DEPENDENT ON THAT. THEY DID GO TO THE FULL 55, WHICH IS PERMITTED UNDER C3. THEY'D HAVE A GREATER SETBACK ACTUALLY, NOW THAT I'M THINKING THAT THE. SO THAT WOULD BE FOR RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY ONLY THIS PROPERTY ACTUALLY HAS NO RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY. IT IS EITHER RIGHT OF WAY OR IT IS, IT WOULD BE ADJACENT NON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. IT'S NOT CONSIDERED RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT BECAUSE OF BOTH ARC DRIVE. THAT'S CORRECT.

AGAIN THAT'S A 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY. THERE'S A 20 FOOT AT LEAST A 20 FOOT COMMON AREA THERE, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT HOME, WHICH I'LL DRAW ON HERE, RIGHT IN THAT AREA. KIND OF HARD TO SEE, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE, OF COURSE, A SETBACK FOR THE HOTEL. YOU CAN SEE THERE'S ALREADY AN EXISTING FIRE LANE THERE, SO THE HOTEL WOULDN'T BE BUILT LIKELY ANY CLOSER THAN THAT. OTHER QUESTIONS. DRAKE. IT LOOKS LIKE ONE OF THE C3 ALLOWANCES FOR A HOTEL WOULD BE A GREATER HEIGHT.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND WHAT'S THE HEIGHT DIFFERENCE IN A C3 HOTEL VERSUS A C2? IT WOULD BE TEN FEET. SO 45FT WOULD BE PERMITTED IN C2 OUTRIGHT AND OUTRIGHT. IN THE C3 DISTRICT IT WOULD BE 55FT IN HEIGHT. SO THAT WOULD BE THREE MAYBE FOUR FEET FOR, FOR, FLOORS. YEAH. IT WOULD BE COMPLETELY UP TO THE APPLICANT. I BELIEVE WITH A HEIGHT OF 55FT, YOU'D BE ABLE TO FIT ABOUT A FOUR STORY HOTEL MAXIMUM IN THERE. OKAY, SO WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT ONE MORE FLOOR VERSUS WHAT'S ALLOWED NOW, I WOULD SAY THAT'S ABOUT CORRECT. IT WOULD BE ABOUT THREE STORY TO FOUR STORY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. IS OUR APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT. YES, SIR. VERY GOOD.

GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS ANDREW YEO FROM TRIANGLE ENGINEERING, ADDRESS 1782 MCDERMOTT DRIVE, ALLEN, TEXAS, APPLICANT AND ENGINEER. I'M HERE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? SO BASICALLY, YOU WANT TO REZONE THIS SO YOU CAN ADD A FOURTH FLOOR? BASICALLY THAT IS WHAT, THE INTENT. YEAH. AND, WHAT IS A HOTEL? THE POTENTIAL HOTEL IS, A HILTON

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THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. IF YOU COME TONIGHT AND WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS PLANNING AND ZONING REGARDING THIS PROPOSED REZONE, AT 1565 NORTH HARDIN BOULEVARD, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. HI. MY NAME IS TIFFANY TESCH. I'M A RESIDENT OF HARDIN VILLAGE. 4065 ANGELINA DRIVE. SO I LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT IS RIGHT ACROSS ACROSS WARD ARC FROM THIS PROPOSED CHANGE. AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF SEVERAL OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT CAME WITH ME HERE TONIGHT AND SEVERAL OF OUR NEIGHBORS WHO COULDN'T MAKE IT, WE'RE A COMMUNITY OF A LOT OF YOUNG FAMILIES, AND I REALLY WANT TO STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS CHANGE BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AT ALL. WE HAVE A LOT OF SINGLE STORY HOMES RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM BOYD ARC. ADDITIONALLY, THE ENERGY COMPANY THAT'S ON THE CORNER RIGHT NEXT TO THE JUNIOR HIGH, THAT'S PROBABLY WITHIN A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET OF THIS PROPERTY. IS A SINGLE STORY FACILITY. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, BEHIND OUR COMMUNITY RECENTLY, DEVELOPER THAT IS PUTTING IN, APARTMENT HOMES REDUCED FROM FOUR STORIES IN THEIR ORIGINAL PLAN TO TWO STORIES BECAUSE THEY AGREED IT WASN'T IN KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO HAVE SUCH A HIGH STORY BUILDING RIGHT NEXT TO OUR HOUSING COMPLEX. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY CONCERNS FOR THE KIDS THAT ARE WAITING FOR THE SCHOOL BUS ON WATER ARC ON ANGELINA DRIVE. IT WOULD BE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS, PROPERTY, A LOT OF OUR YOUNG FAMILIES ARE CONCERNED ABOUT NOISE POLLUTION AS WELL. HAVING A CAR WASH WITH VACUUMS AND A HOTEL WITH, SO MUCH NOISE BEING GENERATED IN THE AREA COULD BE DISRUPTIVE TO OUR OUR YOUNG FAMILIES. ADDITIONALLY, ANY SORT OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD BE INVOLVED WITH THE CHEMICALS FOR IN THE CLEANING SOLUTIONS AND SUCH, AND THEN OF COURSE, WE'RE CONCERNED AGAIN ABOUT THE, THE COMMUNITY, THE CHARACTER OF OUR COMMUNITY AND HOW THIS WILL IMPACT THAT AND OUR, OUR PROPERTY VALUES. SO ALL OF THOSE MAKE US STRONGLY CONCERNED. I SPOKE WITH QUITE A FEW OF MY NEIGHBORS IN THE HARDIN VILLAGE AREA, AND WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. SO I WANTED TO COME AND SHARE THOSE THOUGHTS WITH YOU TONIGHT AND LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT MAKING SUCH A CHANGE AND HAVING A FOUR STORY HOTEL PUT IN RIGHT ACROSS FROM BOYD ARC FROM US, WHERE WE HAVE THESE SINGLE STORY HOMES. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. ANYONE ELSE? YE. HI, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS CHRIS FOLK. I LIVE IN HARDIN VILLAGE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS SIMILAR CONCERNS, ABOUT THE PROPOSED HOTEL, WE WERE JUST ACROSS THE STREET THERE OF WADA ARC, CONCERNS FOR SAFETY, PRIVACY FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND SCHOOL CHILDREN. THERE'S BUS STOPS, ANGELINA AND BORDER ARC, CROWE WATER ARC, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE 500FT FROM COCKRELL MIDDLE SCHOOL. SO IT SEEMS A LITTLE STRANGE TO HAVE A HOTEL SO CLOSE TO SO MANY, SCHOOL CHILDREN. AND WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, BUDGET OR UPSCALE, THERE'S TRANSIENT VISITORS, AND YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WHO'S GOING THERE STAYING. WHAT ARE THEY DOING, THERE IS A HOTEL ACROSS THE WAY, FAIR, FAIRFIELD INN MARRIOTT. I BELIEVE THEY WANTED TO BUILD RIGHT ACROSS COCKRELL MIDDLE SCHOOL, BUT HAD TO BE PUSHED BACK FURTHER OUT OF SAFETY CONCERNS, THAT HOTEL IS THERE, IF YOU LIKE. THERE'S A HOTEL IN THE AREA, TO SERVE RAYTHEON. AND, YOU KNOW, THE, BUSINESSES AND COLLEGE IN THIS DISTRICT, THERE'S OTHER AVAILABLE PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, IN THE DISTRICT THAT WE ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPER TO CONSIDER AND STAFF AS WELL. YEAH, WE JUST FEEL, YOU KNOW, FOUR STORIES AGAIN, LOOKING OVER, IT'S KIND OF LIKE HAVING A DRONE LOOKING OVER THE PROPERTIES. ESPECIALLY CLOSEST TO THE WATER PARK. WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF SCHOOL KIDS, YOU HAVE INCREASED TRAFFIC DOWN THERE. THERE'S A SAFETY CONCERN FROM TRAFFIC. I KNOW LAST YEAR THERE WAS A FATALITY IN FRISCO DUE TO, YOU KNOW, CAR DRIVING EARLY IN THE MORNING AND, YOU KNOW, STRUCK A KID. SO. YEAH, PRIVACY AND SAFETY CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE ABOUT REALLY ANY HOTEL. AND I

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THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS THAT HE WAS SAYING AS WELL, WITH KIDS RUNNING ACROSS THE STREET AND, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS ARE MORE LOOKING FOR THAT, I WOULD SAY, THAN THAN, ALL HOTEL GUESTS, SOME ARE I'M NOT SAYING ALL HOTEL GUESTS ARE BAD. WE STAY AT HOTELS, BUT, RIGHT BY A SCHOOL, WE ARE VERY, VERY STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THIS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? YEAH.

THAT'S CORRECT. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT ON THIS PROPOSED REZONE? ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION BY MR. LOBO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND BY MR. WHATLEY. ANY DISCUSSION ON CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING? ALL RIGHT. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION CARRIES BY A VOTE OF SIX IN FAVOR AND ZERO AGAINST. THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED. MEMBERS WHO HAVE QUESTIONS OF EITHER THE APPLICANT OR CITY STAFF, STAFF? GO AHEAD. ROSS. YES, SIR. YEAH JAKE, SO WHAT WHAT'S THE REQUIRED STAND OFF, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY, FOR THE BUILDING. YOU KNOW, TO THE AJ ONE MINUTE. COULD WE HAVE, WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING UP HERE. IF WE COULD BRING THE VOLUME DOWN A LITTLE BIT. THANK YOU. SORRY, SORRY, MY QUESTION WAS, WHAT IS THE REQUIRED, STAND OFF, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, FROM THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, TO THE STREET. YEAH. SO THE MINIMUM SETBACK, I BELIEVE, WOULD BE 20FT FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY. AGAIN, THERE ALREADY IS A. YOU SEE THAT DRIVE RIGHT THERE? IT'S AN EXISTING FIRE LANE. SO LIKELY WHAT YOU'LL END UP HAVING IS, PARKING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALKS, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF GRASS AND THEN A BUILDING AT A MINIMUM, IF THEY DON'T DO MULTIPLE ROWS OF PARKING ON THE WEST SIDE OF THAT BUILDING, LIKE I SAID, WITH THE 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE BOAT ARC ROAD AND THEN MINIMUM 20FT ON EACH SIDE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A MINIMUM OF 100 FOOT DISTANCE BETWEEN THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND THE POTENTIAL HOTEL. GOTCHA THANK YOU. JAKE. CAN YOU. NOW THE HOTEL IS PERMITTED EITHER IN C TWO OR C THREE. IT'S JUST WHETHER IT'S A THREE STORY OR A FOUR STORY. YES, OF COURSE, IT'S UP TO THE APPLICANT WHETHER THEY BUILD A HOTEL OR DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU GO OVER SOME OF THE USES, C-2 I, LIKE I SAID, TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH. CAN YOU GO OVER SOME OF THE C-2 USES THAT ARE PERMITTED? ALSO, IN ADDITION TO THE THREE STORY HOTEL? YEAH. GIVE ME JUST ONE SECOND TO PULL THAT UP AS, YOU KNOW, C-2 IS A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, AND C THREE JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO ME. YEAH. SO SOME OF THE USES THAT ARE ALREADY PERMITTED ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. WOULD BE LOOKING AT ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, CULTURAL CENTER. BANKS. WHAT ABOUT RETAIL SIZE? SIZE OF RETAIL CENTERS OR, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A MINIMUM OR A MAXIMUM PERMITTED SIZE OF RETAIL CENTERS IN EITHER DISTRICT. SO THERE'S

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THANK YOU SIR. IS THERE A SPECIFIC REASON THAT YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE THAT? FOURTH FLOOR, SINCE THREE FLOORS WERE ALREADY THEY THAT IS THE HOTEL BUSINESS, THE C THREE IS ALLOWED FOR HOTEL, SO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DEVELOP, YOU KNOW, THREE, FOUR AND FOUR FOUR IS, IS A BETTER LOOKING DESIGN AND FIT INTO THE COMMERCIAL AND IT WILL BRING MORE, FOR THE DEVELOPER. AND YOU WITHDREW THE CAR WASH. WAS THERE A IS THE WE SUBMIT FOR SUP. AND THEN WE GOT THE COMMENT FROM THE CITY AND STAFF IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR SUPPORT. SO AFTER DISCUSSING WITH THE OWNER, WE DECIDED TO WITHDRAW THE SUP. HAS THERE BEEN ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THE RESIDENTS AS IT RELATES TO. YEAH I DID TALK TO CHRIS, ONE OF THE HE ASKED ME THE QUESTION AND I HAVE ANSWERED HIM OR WHATEVER THE ANSWER. OKAY SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET A FEEL FROM, THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY JUST AGAINST THE HOTEL PERIOD O. YES. OKAY. YES OKAY. BUT ANYTHING ELSE IS PRETTY MUCH. I JUST WANT THE COMMUNITY ABOUT POSSIBLE SCHOOL. YEAH. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? ANYONE THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A MOTIONS MOTION? WELL CONVERSATION I GUESS I HAVE A COMMENT TO MAKE IN JUST AN OBSERVATION THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN ZONED AS C-2, WHICH ALLOWS THE PROPERTY OWNER TO BUILD, IN THIS CASE, A THREE STORY HOTEL. AND SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR A REZONE TO A FOUR STORY HOTEL. SO THE QUESTION IS, IS THAT GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO THE COMMUNITY? AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. I UNDERSTAND THE HOLD BACK ON HAVING A HOTEL, BUT THE PROPERTY OWNER CAN BUILD A HOTE.

SO, FOR THAT REASON, I WOULD SUPPORT THIS CHANGE. SO YOU SUPPORT IT. ANYONE ELSE? JAKE I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. I'M SORR. THE, ACROSS THE STREET WHERE THE FAIRFIELD IS. THAT'S A PD ZONING. YES, MA'AM. DID THAT ALLOW FOR THE TALLER HEIGHT, OR IS IT THE SIMILAR HEIGHT OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? I BELIEVE IT'S A SIMILAR HEIGHT, I WANT TO SAY, EVEN THOUGH THAT IS A PD, IT FOLLOWS VERY SIMILAR TO THE C THREE, STANDARDS IN THAT WITHIN THAT PD. SO I BELIEVE THAT IS A

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QUESTIONS I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION AS PER STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

MOTION BY MR. BUCKNER TO APPROVE THE ITEM. AS FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. I'LL SECOND OF A SECOND BY MISS HAMMOCK. IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT REQUEST FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. BUT THE MOTION CARRIES BY A VOTE OF FIVE IN FAVOR AND ONE TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION AT THE AUGUST 6TH, 2024 MEETING. AUGUST 6TH, 2024. FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE AND

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District to “C1” - Neighborhood Commercial District, Located at 5353 Virginia Parkway]

ANY OF THE ZONINGS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY ZONING ORDINANCE? THEY ARE PERMITTED IN THE RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY USE. AND CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, SQUARE FOOTAGE OF A BUILDING UNDER PD VERSUS C1? THEY'RE REQUESTING? YEAH SO UNDER THE EXISTING PD, THERE IS THE INDIVIDUAL BUILDING, MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE WHERE THEY CANNOT EXCEED 15,000FT■S, OF COURSE THY COULD. THAT'S ONLY FOR AN INDIVIDUAL BUILDING. SO THEY COULD BUILD PLENTY OF 15,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS ON THE SITE. THEY JUST WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE CONNECTED AT THE ROOF LINE UNDER THE PROPOSED ZONING, WHICH IS C1. THAT WOULD MODIFY THAT TO WHERE THEY COULD HAVE ONE BUILDING, INSTEAD OF MULTIPLE 15,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS. THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY NOTABLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED ZONING. AND YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PD THAT WAS INTENDED THERE, PD THAT WAS INTENDED THERE. WELL, IT'S PD. SO WAS THERE A BASIS FOR

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THANK YOU. IS THERE AN APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT? YES SIR. HI, MY NAME IS RICK BROWN. I AM THE ARCHITECT FOR THE MCKINNEY ISLAMIC ASSOCIATION. ADDRESS 521 WEST WILSHIRE, OKLAHOMA CITY, WE DO HAVE A SITE PLAN DEVELOPED. WE'VE NOT SUBMITTED IT YET. OR, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING WITH THE CITY, REGARDING OUR OUR SITE PLAN, I HAVE MET WITH THE STONEBROOK HOA, GOTTEN THEIR, COMMENTS AND DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PARTICULARS OF THE, OF THE SITE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS, WAS ASKED WAS ABOUT, EXTERIOR NOISE POLLUTION. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THERE'S NOT ANY SPEAKERS ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXTERIOR NOISE STATUTES ARE, BUT THE PROJECT WOULD NOT HAVE ANY EXTERIOR SPEAKERS ON IT. EVERYTHING'S DONE. INTERIOR TO THE PROJECT. THE JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE, THE INTERIOR OF THE PROJECT WOULD BE BECAUSE THIS SITE HAS A LOT OF SLOPE TO IT, WE WOULD IT'S A TWO STORY BUILDING, BUT IT WOULD BE ONE STORY FROM THE FRONT. AS YOU LOOK AT IT, AND TWO STORIES IN THE BACK. SO THE 35 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT IS WORKS FINE FOR US. WE DO HAVE A DOME THAT WOULD BE OVER THE PRAYER AREA, AND THAT WOULD LIKELY BE, YOU KNOW, 45FT. SO, SO THAT'S ALLOWED. AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S ALLOWED WHETHER WE GET THE ZONING CHANGE OR NOT. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE TO DO SOME, SOME JUGGLING AROUND TO GET IT IN MULTIPLE PIECES. IF WE'RE REQUIRED TO OBSERVE THAT 15,000 SQUARE FOOT PER BUILDING REGULATION, WHEREAS IF WE CAN PUT IT ALL TOGETHER, I THINK IT MAKES A MUCH MORE COHESIVE, MUCH MORE COHESIVE PROJECT. SO AND IT'S A BIG SITE. I MEAN, IT'S 5.75 ACRES AND, WE WILL HAVE A LANDSCAPE PLAN AND, THAT WILL ADDRESS THE THAT WILL ADDRESS TREE PRESERVATION IN THE, IN THE FLOODPLAIN. AND YOU KNOW WHAT WE WOULD PLAN TO DO IN THERE? BUT THE, ADDRESSING THE, THE, THE QUANTITY OF PEOPLE THAT'LL BE THERE, IT'S PRIMARILY A FRIDAY AFTERNOON, TRAFFIC SITUATION. AND THERE WILL BE THE PRAYER HALLS ACCOMMODATE A MAXIMUM OF 500 PEOPLE. SO DURING RAMADAN CELEBRATIONS, THERE WILL BE A FEW MORE THAN THAT. BUT THE 3000 PEOPLE RELATES TO A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE THERE FOR MULTIPLE SERVICES. THERE WOULD NEVER BE 3000 PEOPLE THERE AT ONE TIME. THEY'RE JUST IT JUST WON'T HOLD IT. IT'S A THE BUILDING IS DESIGNED NOW IS ABOUT A 37,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IS WHAT WE PROBABLY WILL END UP WITH. SO THE PRAYER HALL THERE IS, IS APPROXIMATELY 600, 5 TO 600 PEOPLE IN THE PRAYER HALL. AND, WE CAN PARK ABOUT 300 SPACES ON THE SITE, NOT COUNTING USING THE

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DURING DURING. WELL BUT THAT'S A TIME OUT. TIME OUT. SO YOU'RE THE APPLICANT. WHO IS HE I DON'T KNOW OKAY. WE'LL GET TO YOU IN A MINUTE. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. BROWN. GO AHEAD. THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE DURING PRAYER TIME IS THAT'S ALL THEY'RE THERE FOR. THERE'S NOT A PRAYER TIME WHERE THERE'S A BUNCH OF PEOPLE PLAYING BASKETBALL. AND IF THERE ARE, THAT'S VERY, VERY FEW. THANK YOU. AND YOUR OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. OKAY THANK YOU, MR. BROWN. ALL RIGHT. LET'S START THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CARDS, I'LL READ THE NAME OFF. THESE ARE THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER STACK THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO NOT SPEAK. AGAIN. WE'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. PLEASE GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS WHEN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM. FIRST NAME IS MARTIN MCKENZIE IN OPPOSITION. MR. MCKENZIE. IF ANYBODY DIDN'T. HI, I'M MARK MCKENZIE. I WAS NOT EXPECTING TO GO FIRST. I WAS GOING TO SAY I AGREE WITH EVERYONE ELSE THAT'S OPPOSING, BUT YEAH. SO TO SPEAK, I AM OPPOSING, AND I'M, I'M OPPOSING FOR TWO OF THE GOALS THAT YOU HAVE LISTED ON YOUR BOARD THERE, FIRST OFF, ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN MCKINNEY, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WELL, HOW DOES THAT MATTER? WELL, WHEN THEY HAD THEIR GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY, THEY WERE BLOCKING PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO ENTER OR EXIT OUT OF MY SUBDIVISION. ESSENTIALLY, I'M AT STONEBROOK CROSSING. AND I THINK I WAS LAUGHING AT THE PARKING. SO DID THE MATH. I'M A SOFTWARE ENGINEER. IF IT'S ONE CAR FOR 50FT■S, THAT IS THE 15,000FT■S R 300 SPOTS. SO CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, THE 45 K, I THINK IS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING UP TO. THAT'S 900 SPACES WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THAT. WHICH GETS TO MY NEXT POINT. THE SAFE AND SECURE COMMUNITY. SO THE PROBLEM WITH DOING A TRAFFIC STUDY RIGHT NOW, I WOULD THINK IS SCHOOL IS NOT IN SESSION. SO ONE OF THE BIG THINGS IS MCKINNEY BOYD SCHOOL, WHEN I LEAVE EARLY IN THE MORNING BEFORE THE SUNRISE, WHICH IS WHEN THEIR FIRST CALL TO PRAYER WOULD BE THERE IS NUMEROUS HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS THERE THAT ARE THE CROSS COUNTRY TEAM THAT ARE RUNNING IN THE DARK. SO THEY ADDED TRAFFIC, IS A SAFETY CONCERN THAT I WOULD HAVE FOR THEM, AS WELL AS JUST KIDS WALKING TO SCHOOL, BOTH TO, MCKINNEY BOYD, WHICH IS JUST, JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST A LITTLE WAYS DOWN LAKE FOREST ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE, THE OTHER THING, I'VE BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR 15 YEARS, I'VE SEEN VIRGINIA GO FROM, YOU KNOW, EXPAND THE LANES, AND IT'S ALREADY AT CAPACITY AS FAR AS TRAFFIC, IF YOU GO AND TRY TO GET THROUGH ANOTHER AREA THAT HAS A MOSQUE, YOU CAN SEE THE TRAFFIC IS HORRENDOUS AND IT'S EASY TO SAY THAT THE TRAFFIC IS NOT GOING TO BE THAT BAD NOW, BUT OBVIOUSLY, THEY WANT TO GROW, OTHERWISE THEY WOULDN'T BE ASKING FOR SUCH A LARGE FACILITY. SO BASED ON NUMBERS

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AREA. WE ALL HAVE CHILDREN. I HAVE CHILDREN IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, CHILDREN IN HIGH SCHOOL.

I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT INCREASED TRAFFIC. ABOUT WHAT? KIND OF IMPACT THE FACILITY IS GOING TO HAVE ON OUR LIFE. AS MIKE WAS SAYING, BOYD IS IN SESSION EARLY, AND IT ENDS IN THE AFTERNOON. NOT ONLY THE CHILDREN DO CROSS COUNTRY TRAINING, SOME KIDS DRIVE, SOME KIDS WALK. ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN, MIDDLE SCHOOL CHILDREN, THEY DRIVE THERE, RIDE THEIR BICYCLES. THEY WALK TO SCHOOL HAVING AN, A FACILITY WHERE, PEOPLE WILL BE COMING AND GOING FROM AS A PARENT, I'M CONCERNED, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE PARKING CONVERSATION IS NOT GOING TO BE, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE TRUE WHEN IT'S ALL BUILT. WE'VE SEEN THE GROUND BREAKING CEREMONY, WE SAW THE CONGESTION IN OUR STREETS, SO IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE. AND AS MIKE WAS POINTING OUT, THE FACILITY IS PLANNED TO ACCOMMODATE A MUCH BIGGER AUDIENCE THAN FIVE 600 PRAYER HALL, 300 SPACES ARE NOT GOING TO DO IT. SO OUR STREETS ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED. WE ALL HAVE FAMILY AND FRIENDS VISITING. WE THEY WILL HAVE NOWHERE TO PARK, SO I DO OPPOSE THE REZONING AND I HOPE THE COMMITTEE WILL HEAR ALL THE CONCERNS FROM ALL THE NEIGHBORS AND VOTE ACCORDINGLY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS RAY. THE NEXT NAME IS DOUG SLAVERY 300 TURTLE COURT. THANK YOU SUSAN, DOUG, DOUG, GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME THIS EVENING, PROBABLY A LOT OF THE OPINIONS OF EVERYBODY ELSE THAT'S GOING TO SPEAK TONIGHT. I HAVE I OPPOSE THE REZONING, AS ONE PERSON POINTED OUT, WITH THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN, A FEW YEARS AGO, WE RECENTLY HAD A TRAFFIC LIGHT INSTALLED AT CRUTCHER CROSSING AND VIRGINIA DUE TO NUMEROUS TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS THAT WERE HAVING AS PART OF THE EXPANSION. THERE HASN'T BEEN ONE ADDED YET AT SOUTH VILLAGE DRIVE JUST TO THE EAST, WHERE WE CONTINUE TO HAVE TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS NOT AS FREQUENT AS WERE HAPPENING, BUT THEY STILL HAPPEN. THE ADDED CROSS TRAFFIC FROM THE NEW CENTER OF SUCH SIZE WOULD DEFINITELY INCREASE THE RISK SIGNIFICANTLY. I BELIEVE THAT'S MY OPINION, ANOTHER THING IS THERE'S A MEMORY CARE FACILITY RIGHT ACROSS CRUTCHER CROSSING. SO WE DID SEE INCREASED TRAFFIC, COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC JUST FROM THAT, WHICH, HAS A POPULATION, VISITOR POPULATION THAT WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS. SO WE WOULD EXPECT AS A RELIGIOUS CENTER, A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN TRAFFIC, ONE THING I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIGHT POLLUTION AND THE TREES POTENTIALLY COVERING THAT DURING THE FALL, WINTER AND SPRING MONTHS. THERE ARE NO LEAVES ON THOSE TREES. AND I HAVE A LINE OF SIGHT VIEW OF THE MEMORY CARE FACILITY. AND I CAN PERSONALLY ATTEST THAT THE TREES DO MINIMAL DURING THOSE THOSE SEASONS TO, SHADE OUT OR FILTER OUT THE LIGHT, AND THEN KIND OF LASTLY, THE POPULATION OF THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES AND STONY BROOK CROSSING. I MYSELF WAS ALSO A FORMER HOA BOARD MEMBER, BUT IT'S PREDOMINANTLY CHRISTIAN BASED. SO I THINK A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTS WOULD FIND THIS, I DON'T WANT TO SAY AN EYESORE, BUT AN EYESORE. AND THAT WOULD BE MY TALKING POINTS FOR THIS EVENING. THANK

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ASSEMBLY SPACE IS GOING TO BE 6000 SQUARE FOOT. SO THAT MEANS 120 SPACES, RIGHT? SO HOW COME 300 NUMBER IS COMING UP? I DON'T KNOW. AND IF YOU LOGICALLY THINK ABOUT ANY RELIGIOUS SITE, NOT JUST MOSQUE, BUT I MEAN I GO TO GURDWARAS AND TEMPLES AS WELL. IF YOU JUST VISIT ANY RELIGIOUS SITE, THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS, THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS IS JUST A JOKE BECAUSE PRETTY MUCH PEOPLE PARK IN EVERYBODY ELSE'S DRIVEWAYS OR IN FRONT OF THEIR MAILBOXES. I MYSELF HAVE BEEN DOING THAT SO I CAN PRETTY MUCH ATTEST TO THAT. IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE OVERALL MAP, YOU CAN SEE THIS. THIS MOSQUE IS BEING BUILT WHEN YOU HAVE THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH RESIDENTIAL SPACES, WHY NOT JUST BUILD SOMETHING WHERE, THERE ARE COMMERCIAL SPACES, LIKE YOU HAVE A CHURCH, ON THIS ROAD, BUT THE CHURCH HAS SOME COMMERCIAL SPOTS AROUND IT, AND THERE IS ENOUGH PARKING SPACE AROUND THAT AREA WHERE YOU CAN PARK YOUR CARS. BUT NOT FOR THIS ONE. SO PARKING IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BECOME A HELL. AND I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO BE, I DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE, BUT, HAVING A RELIGIOUS SPACE IN GENERAL IN ANY, NEIGHBORHOOD CAN CAUSE DISCOMFORT. AND, THERE ARE KIDS WALKING BY. IF SOMEBODY GOES TO A SPACE, WHICH THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO, OR MAYBE THEY SHOULD NOT, OR MAYBE THEIR PARENTS WOULD NOT LIKE, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO BE, I DON'T WANT TO PUT MY WORDS NEGATIVELY, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF MY KIDS WERE WALKING DOWN THAT ROAD, I WOULD NOT WANT THEM TO GO TO A SPACE WHERE, THERE COULD BE A RISK OF, THEM GETTING SOME SOME INFORMATION WHICH MIGHT BE MISREPRESENTATION OF FACTS. SO I'M. I'M PRETTY MUCH VERY STRONG IN OPPOSITION. AND THE LAST POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS IF I WERE TO WHEN I MOVED INTO THIS COMMUNITY, IF I KNEW EVEN 1% THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A MOSQUE BUILT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, I WOULD HAVE NEVER MOVED HERE. AND IF THIS GETS BUILT HERE, THANK YOU, MR. SHIN. IF THIS GETS IF THIS GETS BUILT HERE, I'LL BE LOOKING AT PROBABLY SELLING MY PLACE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

NEXT CARD. LAWRENCE ULMAN. HELLO, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS LAWRENCE HARMON. I WAS BORN AND BRED AND RAISED RIGHT HERE IN DALLAS. I RAISED MY KIDS IN IRVING, COME TO MCKINNEY 20 YEARS AGO, MOVED INTO THE STONEBROOK CROSSING THE TRAFFIC, THE POPULATION AS WELL AS Y'ALL KNOW, HAS GROWN TREMENDOUSLY. WE'VE HAD TO WIDEN ALL THE ROADS. VIRGINIA PARKWAY, WE'VE HAD TO PUT A LIGHT THERE AT CRUTCHER CROSSING TO BE ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT. THAT COMMUNITY IS GOING TO COMMUTE. SO MUCH TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION AND THEY SAY THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A LIGHTING ISSUE, BUT THIS FACILITY IS ALREADY UP THERE AT HARDEN, WHICH I WAS NOT AWARE OF UNTIL TODAY. AND EL DORADO AND I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THAT FACILITY THERE, IT CONSUMES THAT WHOLE PARKING LOT OF THAT SHOPPING CENTER THAT THERE'S NO PARKING FOR OTHER BUSINESSES, FOR PATRONS. SO IF THEY MOVE THAT TO THIS LOCATION, IT'S GOING TO BE, AS BAD, IF NOT WORSE. THERE'S ONLY GOING TO BE TWO WAYS, POSSIBLY INTO THAT AREA, I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH AMOUNT OF CARS, THE VEHICLES I'VE LIVED IN THIS HOUSE 20 YEARS. I'M 67. I'M READY TO RETIRE. I WASN'T WANTING TO SELL MY HOUSE, BUT IF THIS GOES IN, YOU KNOW, I LOVE MCKINNEY. I COME UP HERE WHEN SAM RAYBURN WASN'T EVEN THERE YET. YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M TALKING ABOUT. AND ALL OF YOU, IF YOU GO TO CHURCH, I GO TO CHURCH. YOU CAN SEE THE EXPANSION IN YOUR CHURCHES, CORRECT? YOU CAN SEE THE GROWTH OF POPULATION IN YOUR CHURCHES THAT YOU ATTEND. IT WILL BE THE SAME THING HERE. THE POPULATION IS GOING TO GROW, AND IT'S GOING TO GROW TO LEAPS AND

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IT HAS NOTHING TO DO AGAINST RELIGION. WE LIVE IN AMERICA. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALL OF OUR WE LIVE BY THE CONSTITUTION. I DO TOO. THAT'S ONE OF OUR RIGHTS, FREEDOM OF RELIGION. BUT THAT TO ME IS NOT A GOOD PLACE TO EXPAND THIS HUGE FACILITY. AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THE HOUSING AND THE HOMES THAT ARE IN THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. ARMAN. NEXT CARD IS SAMAD SAID SAMAD.

SPEAKING IN FAVOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MY NAME IS SAM. SAID I'M THE PRESIDENT OF MCKINNEY ISLAMIC ASSOCIATION. CURRENTLY SERVING, I THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING HERE TO SHOW YOUR CONCERNS BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE ARE MEETING AND THIS IS HOW WE ARE MEETING. I DIDN'T WANT IT TO MEET THIS WAY, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

OPPOSING, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THAT ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME ONCE THE BUILDING IS BUILT, ALL ARE WELCOME. WE DON'T PUSH OUT PEOPLE. IF YOU WANT TO COME IN. I HEARD A COMMENT THAT, HEY, ARE THEY GOING TO PUSH OUT? NO ONE CONCERN THAT I WANT TO ADDRESS THAT THE THERE ARE THE BIGGEST GATHERING THAT HAPPENS IS ON FRIDAY, 145 AND 245 PRAYERS. AND THE GAP BETWEEN TWO PRAYERS IS USUALLY 30 MINUTES. SO YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN AND GOING OUT.

THAT'S A GAP THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN FOR 30 MINUTES. BUT IF WE SEE THAT LOGISTICALLY THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE, IT'S ALWAYS IT'S ALWAYS IT'S UP TO US. IF WE WANT TO GIVE MORE GAP INTO THAT. IF YOU SEE THAT, OKAY, PEOPLE ARE NOT ABLE TO COME IN WITHIN 30 MINUTES, GO OUT. IT'S BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. IT'S NOT THAT IT'S STRICT THAT YOU HAVE TO DO IT WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME.

SO IT CAN ALWAYS IT'S FLEXIBLE BASICALLY. NOW I WANT TO TELL YOU A STORY WHY WE ARE MOVING INTO THIS NEW BUILDING. AFTER COVID, THE ENTIRE MCKINNEY GREW BY MULTIPLE TIMES, AND THERE ARE PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTRY BECAUSE IT'S A BEAUTIFUL CITY. PEOPLE MOVED IN AND AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ALSO MOVED IN. THIS BUILDING THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW HAVE 45 PARKING SPOTS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN OF THE BROTHER WHO JUST TALKED A FEW MINUTES AGO. HE SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN THE, WITHIN WITHIN OUR CURRENT FACILITY THAT WE HAVE NEIGHBORING PARKING SPOTS THAT GET FILLED OUT. LET ME TELL YOU THIS, WE DO NOT ALLOW ANYONE TO PARK WITHIN THE CURRENT, HARDIN VILLAGE OR WITHIN THE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE KFC OR ANYTHING THAT IS AROUND US. WE HAVE PERMISSION FROM TOMTOM TO PARK OVER THERE. SO IF YOU WANT YOU TO, I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE FAMILIES WITH THE KIDS COMING ON EVERY FRIDAY, THEY HAVE TO WALK FROM TOM THUMB, CROSS EL DORADO AND COME FOR THE SERVICES. SO 100 DEGREES DOESN'T MATTER. 110 DEGREES. THEY HAVE TO WALK FROM ALL THE WAY FROM TOM THUMB AND COME FOR THE SERVICES. AND WE SEE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 4 TO 500 PEOPLE FOR TWO DIFFERENT SERVICES. AND WE ARE TRYING TO MANAGE THAT. AND THAT'S THE REASON WE GOT THE COMMUNITY CAME TOGETHER AND SAID THAT WE NEED TO GET A FACILITY THAT CAN HELP US TO RESOLVE THIS PARKING ISSUES, WHICH WE ESTIMATED BETWEEN 200 TO 250 CARS, WOULD BE ENOUGH FOR US TO MANAGE THIS KIND OF, THIS KIND OF TRAFFIC THAT WE GET. YOU KNOW, IF WE GROW, WE'LL PLAN. BUT RIGHT NOW, THIS IS THE SITUATION. AND BASED ON THE ESTIMATED I DON'T WE DON'T SEE THAT MUCH GROWTH THAT WE SAW, AFTER COVID. SO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME A CHANCE TO SPEAK. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE OUT HERE, WE LOVE, WE WANT YOU TO BE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE WELCOME YOU TO OUR FACILITY AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MR. SAEED. THE NEXT CARD IS DAVID MONROE IN OPPOSITION. MR. MONROE. ALL RIGHT. NEXT CARD IS, JAY SCHWEGMANN SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. GOOD EVENING.

COMMISSION THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME, I DO OPPOSE, THIS CHANGE IN THE ZONING. I THINK THE ZONING WAS PUT IN PLACE, FOR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF THIS, FACILITY EXCEEDS THAT, I HAVE CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT THE STUDY BEING DONE FOR TRAFFIC AND

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CARL HOWELL HOW? CARL HOWELL. YES GLAD I WASN'T THE FIRST ONE UP HERE, BUT. ANYWAY, MY NAME IS CARL HOUND. I LIVE IN THAT AREA. MY MAJOR, MAJOR CONCERN IS THE TRAFFIC. IF YOU LOOK AT IT, WE ONLY HAVE TWO ENTRANCES TO THIS PROPERTY, AND THERE ARE 412 HOMES IN THIS PROPERTY. AND THE MAIN ONE RIGHT THERE IS HARDEN IN VIRGINIA HAS A TRAFFIC LIGHT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF ACCIDENTS. AND THAT'S WHY THEY PUT IT IN. IT'S HARD TO GET OUT OF THE OTHER ONE RIGHT NOW. AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE WHERE THEY PLAN ON ENTRANCES. THEY PLAN ON JUST ON VIRGINIA ARTHUR AND HAVE ENTRANCE ON HARDEN. EITHER WAY IT'S GOING TO BE COMPLICATED. I THINK CRUTCHER WRIGHT CRUTCHER AND, VIRGINIA. SO THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS. AND THE TRAFFIC FLOW. SO WITH EVERYBODY ELSE OKAY. THANK YOU MR. HOWELL. WE DO HAVE THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER HERE AND WE WILL HAVE HIM UP TO ANSWER THE TRAFFIC QUESTION, NEXT CARD IS KING HAROLD. HAROLD. KING HAROLD.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, KING HAROLD, I LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. CAN YOU GET 300 CARS ON THAT PROPERTY WITH NOTHING ON IT? THAT'S. I MEAN, I KNOW ABOUT LIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I STUDY. LIGHT GOES WHERE LIGHT GOES. YOU CAN KIND OF DEFLECT IT. BUT WHEN YOU PUT LIGHT, LIGHT ILLUMINATE. SO THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A DARK LIGHT. IT'S GOING TO BE LIGHT. LIGHT LIGHT DOESN'T BOTHER ME. BUT I THINK WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN THERE. APPARENTLY I'M GUESSING THAT NONE OF YOU LIVE IN THAT AREA. SO. TAKE A VISIT TO HARDEN AND. TAKE A VISIT TO HARDEN AND EL DORADO AND TAKE AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE OPPOSED IS TALKING

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RATHER THAN HAVING MULTIPLE BUILDINGS IN WHICH YOU KIND OF LOSE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTROL ON WHO'S COMING IN AND WHO'S GOING OUT, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A QUESTION OF IF WE HAVE BOUGHT THE BUILDING AND WE RESPECTFULLY RESERVE THE RIGHT TO BUILD THER, JUST HOW IS IT ZONED? AND THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE MOVE FORWARD, THE OTHER THING WAS AROUND NOISE POLLUTION. SO AGAIN, JUST TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR, THE CALL TO PRAYER. YES, THERE IS SUCH A THING AS CALL TO PRAYER, BUT IT'S NOT ADVERTISED. IT'S NOT. THERE'S NO NOISE POLLUTION. THERE'S NO OUTSIDE THE BUILDING. IT'S ALL CONTAINED WITHIN. A GENTLEMAN BEFORE SAID, WELL, THERE'S A PRAYER IN THE EARLY HOURS OF THE DAY. YES, WE DO PRAY FIVE TIMES A DAY, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE 600, 500 PEOPLE AT 5 A.M. OR 6 A.M. IN THE BUILDING, MUCH LIKE THERE ARE SERMONS AND MASSES AT CHURCH. THAT'S A SUNDAY FOR CHRISTIANS. MUSLIMS HAVE THEIR MAIN PRAYERS ON THE FRIDAY THAT 1 OR 2 TIMES THAT WERE MENTIONED EARLIER. SO IT REALLY IS THAT ONE DAY A WEEK THAT YOU WILL SEE PEAK TRAFFIC. THIS IS NOT A MATTER OF 600, 500 PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING COMING IN AND OUT FIVE TIMES A DAY. SO JUST TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL HERE TO ACTUALLY GO TO EL DORADO AND HARDEN IN THE LAST FEW YEARS WOULD MAKE TAKING PAINSTAKING STEPS AGAIN TO MANAGE AND DO VERY WELL IN OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. WE PARK LEGALLY WHERE WE ARE. WE? YES, IT'S PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT, BUT THERE'S NOTHING ILLEGAL. AND LET ME MAKE IT VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING. WE RESPECT THE RIGHTS OF THE HARDIN VILLAGE OWNERS. TOM THUMB HAS ALLOWED US TO PARK, AND WE GUIDE EVERYONE BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH.

AND WHATEVER IS DONE IS DONE WITHIN THE RIGHTS THAT WE HAVE HERE AS MCKINNEY RESIDENTS. I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT FORWARD AND AGAIN, URGE YOU STRONGLY TO VOTE. VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS PARTICULAR MOTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. KHAN. THE NEXT CARD IS REVEREND MOLLY BAUM SPEAKING IN FAVOR. GOOD EVENING. I'M MOLLY BAUM. I LIVE AT 3309 PRO VINE ROAD IN MCKINNEY. THE MCKINNEY ISLAMIC ASSOCIATION ARE MY LITERAL NEIGHBORS BECAUSE I LIVE CLOSE TO THEIR PRESENT LOCATION AND THEY HAVE BEEN VERY CONSCIENTIOUS NEIGHBORS THERE.

THEY ARE ALSO MY FIGURATIVE NEIGHBORS BECAUSE OUR CONGREGATION, WHICH IS LOCATED

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SO MY NAME IS DANTE MUNOZ, AND I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THIS. YOU KNOW, I CAME IN WITH AN AGENDA.

ABOUT WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT AND HAVE SUBSEQUENTLY CHANGED IT AS I'VE LISTENED TO PEOPLE TALK AND FOR ME, THE BIG THING IS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THIS REZONE REQUEST WHEN THERE IS AN APPARENT DEARTH OF INFORMATION. I MEAN, I THINK MR. LEBEAU OR LE BEAU, YOU'VE ASKED A HANDFUL OF QUESTIONS TO I THINK IT WAS A JAKE OR A JACK ABOUT, LIGHTING AND NOISE ORDINANCE LIKE THE DELTA BETWEEN GOING FROM PD TO C ONE WITH THE RESPONSE OF, WELL, SIMILAR SIMILAR. THAT'S SHOULDN'T BE GOOD ENOUGH. I MEAN, WHAT IS THE EXACT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO? WHAT AND HOW IS THAT GOING TO IMPACT THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY THEY'RE HAVING. AND IF THERE ARE ANY TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED, I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANY OR SEEN OR OR SEEN THEM MYSELF. THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, BECAUSE A LOT OF US ARE ALREADY CONCERNED ABOUT IT AND WHAT HASN'T BEEN BROUGHT UP IS THIS VERY COMMITTEE ALSO APPROVED THE PLAN FOR THE EVENT CENTER ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, WHERE LAKE FOREST AND VIRGINIA MEET, WHERE TRAFFIC WAS ALREADY A CONCERN, SPECIFICALLY ON PARKING, WHERE THE SITE PLAN ITSELF CITED. SOME NUMBER, SOME HUNDREDS OF PARKING SPACES. BUT, WITH AN ASTERISK SAYING THAT SOMETHING LIKE 90 PARKING SPACES IN OVERFLOW. SO THERE'S ALREADY GOING TO BE AN ISSUE WITH TRAFFIC AND PARKING WITH RESPECT TO THAT EVENT CENTER THAT'S ALREADY ADJACENT TO THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS EXACERBATING THE ISSUE, THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S ZONED FOR PD. AND I HEARD THAT AS IS THEY CAN BUILD THE MOSQUE AND IT'S A NON-ISSUE TECHNICALLY. THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT AS IS. I DON'T THINK IT'S A GREAT SPOT GIVEN, YOU KNOW, THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, BUT I'LL ACCEPT IT.

WHAT I DON'T LIKE IS THE POTENTIAL EYESORE FOR HAVING SUCH A MASSIVE DOME JUST POPPING OUT OF THE, THE TREE LINES AND WELL ABOVE THE OTHER BUILDINGS, THE SURROUNDING, EVEN THE ONE THAT'S ZONED FOR C1 ADJACENT TO IT. SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS HERE THAT I THINK STILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. AND THE LACK OF A SITE PLAN IS A BIG ONE TO ALL OF THESE, ALL OF THESE THINGS WHERE WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING UP LIKE THE DEVELOPERS SPEAKING ON, ON WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO AND WHAT THEY THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN. THERE'S JUST WORDS. UNTIL WE GET SOMETHING ON PAPER, IT MEANS NOTHING REALLY, IN MY OPINION. SO I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD BE CONSIDERING A REZONE UNTIL YOU GET ENOUGH DETAIL ABOUT WHAT THESE CHANGES ARE GOING TO BE AND HOW IT IMPACTS THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. RAMIREZ. THANK YOU. CARD IS SANDY LUDWIG.

SORRY ALL RIGHT, SANDY LODGE, WE CAN HEAR THE NAME, SIR. THAT WOULD BE MY NAME. IT IS MY NAME.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. I'M SANDY DELANEY. I LIVE AT 304 SOUTH VILLAGE DRIVE, WHICH IS IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE THIS IS PLANNING TO GO, AND I JUST WANTED TO ALSO MAKE A NOTE THAT

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BUT HIS SPECIAL FOCUS IS ON HINDU BEING HINDU HIMSELF. BUT THOSE CARS ARE GOING TO BE FRIDAY. CARS SATURDAY CARS. SO DO YOUR TRAFFIC STUDY WHEN BOYD IS IN SCHOOL, DO YOUR TRAFFIC STUDY AFTER SANJAY ACTUALLY GETS HIS TRAFFIC GOING, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT HOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET IN AND OUT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET IN AND OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? I MEAN, THAT'S THAT TO ME IS A REALLY BIG ISSUE, THE THIRD THING, AM I DONE ALREADY? SHOOT, IT'S ABOUT FAIRNESS. GOD, THAT WAS QUICK. YOU TURN SANJAY DOWN ON HIS 45,000 SQUARE FOOT HINDU CENTER. WHY SHOULD YOU NOT TURN THIS DOWN AS WELL? TO BE FAIR ENOUGH.

THANK YOU, MR. LONNIE. NEXT, OUR AGENDA. O'REILLY. OH HELLO. MY NAME IS GINGER O'REILLY. I'M AT 5220 STONY BROOK CROSSING. SO, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS, OF COURSE, IS THE TRAFFIC AND THE CONGESTION IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT ALSO, I'M ONE OF THE HOMES THAT ACTUALLY BACKS UP INTO THIS NEW PROJECT, AND THE TREE LINE IS WHAT'S GOING TO BE SEPARATING OUR HOME.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS AS WELL AS THE PRIVACY, WE LIKE TO SIT IN OUR BACKYARD. I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE PRIVACY. WE'RE ALL WORRIED. THERE'S LIKE SIX HOMES. WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE PRIVACY.

SO WE DON'T HAVE A PRIVACY FENCE, WE LIKE TO SIT IN OUR BACKYARD, LOOK AT THE TREES. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TREES ARE GOING TO BE TAKEN DOWN, AS WELL AS THE NOISE, MY HUSBAND WORKS NIGHTS, SO HE'LL BE SLEEPING DURING THE DAY. SO HIS CONCERN IS ABOUT NOISE ISSUE AS WELL, DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, EVERYTHING, AGAIN, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE, THE CONGESTION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT. PARKING, WHEN THE GROUNDBREAKING, THERE WAS CARS PARKING IN OUR STREETS ALONG THE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THAT'S BASICALLY OUR BIG CONCERN. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS O'REILLY, VERY MUCH. NEXT CARD IS PHYLLIS MARCIANO. HI, I'M

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WE'VE GOT TO THINK ABOUT WHAT'S WHAT'S THE SITUATION GOING TO BE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, TEN YEARS FROM NOW, 20 YEARS FROM NOW, THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO BE THINKING, NOT FIVE, TEN, 15 DAYS, THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING INTO OUR BASICALLY OUR ONLY ENTRANCE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS JUST IS GOING TO BE INCREDIBLE FIVE TIMES A DAY, EVERY DAY. MORE ON FRIDAYS, MORE ON SATURDAYS, THE MONTH OF RAMADAN. IT'S GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE. DURING THAT MONTH, THE, THE SECOND ENTRANCE THAT WE HAVE, JUST JUST FLOWS RIGHT INTO CRUTCHER CROSSING. CRUTCHER CROSSING IS A BIT WIDER UP THERE AT THE TOP, BUT EVERY, EVERY, EVERY OTHER STREET IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS BASICALLY BIG ENOUGH FOR THREE CARS. SO IF YOU HAVE TWO CARS, A CAR PARKED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET, ONE CAR ONLY CAN TRAVEL DOWN THE STREET. THAT'S IT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE UP THERE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WHEN THIS THING HAPPENS, THE TRAFFIC ISSUES, THE PARKING ISSUES, THE, THE WE MENTIONED THE NOISE ORDINANCE. THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT IS THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND THAT WAS NOT EXPLAINED. I LIKE TO HEAR THAT, AND IT CONCERNS ME THAT, YES, THERE'S NO PLAN FOR OUTDOOR SPEAKERS. NOW BUT WHAT ABOUT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW? TEN YEARS FROM NOW? I MEAN, I JUST I JUST THINK THAT'S GOING TO COME, IT CONCERNS ME THAT THERE HAS BEEN NO COMMUNICATION, NO EFFORT AT COMMUNICATION FROM THE ISLAMIC ASSOCIATION TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. OTHER THAN JUST JUST TONIGHT, THEY MIGHT HAVE SPOKEN TO A LEADERSHIP THING, BUT THERE'S BEEN NO ATTEMPT TO COMMUNICATE TO ALL OF US, BUT IT'S A MASSIVE BUILDING THAT DOESN'T FIT IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AREA. IT JUST DOESN'T FIT IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AREA. THAT'S WHAT THIS AREA IS. THE ALZHEIMER'S CENTER IS A VASTLY DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE, VASTLY DIFFERENT. THERE'S NO TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THERE. THERE'S NO CONCERNS ABOUT PARKING. THEY DON'T ADD TO CONGESTION. IT'S JUST A BUILDING THAT SITS THERE WITH VERY FEW PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT, THIS ONE IS GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT ALL DAY EVERY

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NEXT CARD IS GINA DURAN. I'M, GINA DURAN AT FIVE TWO, ONE THREE. STONEY TRAIL IN THE STOMACH CROSSING SUBDIVISION. LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, I HAVE ALL THE SAME CONCERNS, AND THE OPPOSITION. I FIRST WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO. LIKE THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, RELIGION. I'M SURE THEY'RE ALL VERY NICE PEOPLE. A WOMAN TALKED ABOUT HOW NICE THEY WERE. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. IT HAS TO DO WITH THE LOCATION AND THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING. AND IF THEY'RE SAYING UP TO 3000 CAPACITY, TO ME, THE LAND THAT THEY BOUGHT WAS TOO SMALL IN THE FIRST PLACE. I UNDERSTAND Y'ALL CAN'T CONTROL WHERE PEOPLE WHO BUYS WHAT, BUT I MEAN, I THINK IT WAS THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BOUGHT THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, BUT WE'RE PAST THAT NOW, THE TRAFFIC, OBVIOUSLY, AS I SAID, THERE'S ONLY TWO ENTRANCES. ALL THE OTHER COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.

THERE'S TWO SMALL BUSINESSES ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND THEN THE ASSISTED LIVING CENTER DO NOT HAVE THAT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT. THE 300 PARKING SPOTS IS NOT GOING TO BE NEAR ENOUGH. AND I'VE SEEN OTHER FACILITIES LIKE THIS WHERE THEY BUILD ON A SMALL PLOT OF LAND AND THEN THEY PARK IN NEIGHBORHOODS OR TAKE OVER BUSINESSES, PARKING SPACES. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I ANTICIPATE WILL HAPPEN. AND THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT THE RESIDENTS THERE HAVE NO SAY IN WHETHER SOMEONE PARKS ON THEIR STREET OR NOT, SO THEY COULD TAKE UP 2 OR 3 STREETS AT LEAST. AND NO ONE CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. AND THAT'S AND IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE. LIKE THEY SAID, IF YOU PARK TWO CARS, THERE'S ONLY ONE THAT CAN GET THROUGH. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE DECREASE IN POSSIBLE DECREASE IN PROPERTY VALUE, WE DON'T KNOW THE IMPACT, BUT WITH THAT LARGE OF A BUILDING, I WOULD SAY SOMEONE PROBABLY WOULD NOT WANT TO BUY THERE. SO IF ANYONE WANTED TO SELL, THEY WOULD PROBABLY TAKE A LOSS. CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE AS WELL, THE LOSS OF PRIVACY, LIKE THEY SAID. AND THEY HAVEN'T INDICATED THE NUMBER OF TREES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CUT DOWN. AND I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S A BUFFER AS WELL. AND THEN I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE ANY DRAINAGE OR EROSION ISSUES. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD. AND THEY HAVE THAT LITTLE FLOODPLAIN IN THE CREEK THERE. SO IF THEY BUILD UP YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DRAINAGE AND EROSION GOING INTO THE HOME. SO THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE THERE. AND THEN THE POSSIBLE LIGHT POLLUTION, LIKE THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, LIGHTS OR LIGHTS OR IF THEY HAVE ENOUGH LIGHTS OUT THERE, THAT COULD BE A HUGE ISSUE. AND I'M CONCERNED ALSO, NO ONE HAS MENTIONED IT ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE NATURE IN THE AREA AS WELL. I KNOW THAT IN THAT ALONG THAT WHOLE TREE LINE, THERE AND GOING ACROSS, THERE'S BEEN FAMILIES OF COYOTES AND BOBCATS. OF COURSE, NO ONE LIKES THAT. THEY'RE THERE, I GUESS. BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY LIVE THERE. THERE'S BEEN HAWKS THAT HAVE HAD NESTS IN THOSE LARGE TREES AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, ALL THE OTHER SMALL WILDLIFE. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IS THE OTHER COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS HAVEN'T PRESENTED THE TRAFFIC AND ALL THESE OTHER ISSUES THAT THIS BUILDING WOULD, WOULD PRESENT. AND IT JUST DOESN'T KEEP IN WITH THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ESTHETIC THAT IT'S ZONED FOR RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. WREN. MR. SHE BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT. IF I I'M JUST WEIGHING IN IF YOU HAVE SUBMITTED A LETTER OR AN EMAIL REGARDING THIS ITEM, PLEASE KNOW THAT IT WILL GO ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS PART OF OUR MINUTES, WE WON'T READ THOSE, BUT IF YOU SUBMITTED, PLEASE BE ASSURED THAT IT WILL GO ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL. AND THE SECOND THING, IF YOU IF WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, IF YOU AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER, YOU CERTAINLY HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY I AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER. YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME UP AND SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS, BUT PLEASE KNOW THAT'S ALSO AN ACCEPTABLE RESPONSE. SINCE WE'RE DOWN TO ABOUT 48 CARDS LEFT. SO THE NEXT CARD IS MELISSA PENNINGTON, MISS PENNINGTON, MELISSA PENNINGTON, YES. HELLO. MY NAME IS MELISSA PENNINGTON. I AM A RESIDENT AND HOMEOWNER IN STONEBROOK CROSSING. I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE APPROVAL OF A REZONE TO SEE ONE AT CRUTCHER CROSSING AND VIRGINIA PARKWAY, THIS MEGA STRUCTURE PRESENTS SEVERAL SIGNIFICANT HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES. THE FIRST BEING CONGESTION AND SAFETY, SAFETY ABOUT TRAFFIC. I'M NOT GOING TO TALK FURTHER ABOUT THAT. IT'S ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED, IN ADDITION TO THE TRAFFIC STUDY, I THINK AS SANDY POINTED OUT, IT'S NOT GOING TO ACCURATELY REFLECT

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THERE'S AS PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED, THERE'S THREE LANES TOTAL. IT'S LEGAL TO PARK THERE.

NOBODY'S GOING TO STOP ANYBODY FROM PARKING ON THOSE STREETS. OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE TICKETED. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE TOWED. HOWEVER, THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS, AS MELISSA JUST MENTIONED, MY MOM HAD A HEART ATTACK LAST YEAR. IT WAS LIKE A WIDOWMAKER TYPE OF HEART ATTACK WHERE SECONDS COUNT AND IF THERE'S BLOCK TRAFFIC AND AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE CAN'T GET IN, IT COULD MEAN LIFE AND DEATH FOR SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS. AND I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S LITERALLY ONLY THREE LANES. AND IF YOU PARK ALL, WHICH IS LEGAL TO PARK ALONG THE SIDES, THEN THEN THAT LEAVES A HUGE CONGESTION ISSUE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I ALSO PLEASE IMPLORE YOU TO CONSIDER WHAT THE PURPOSE OF ZONING IS. WHY ZONING MATTERS. AS SANDY SAID EARLIER, WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF WHY EVEN ZONE AT ALL? WHY? WHY JUST ANYBODY CAN BUY ANY PROPERTY THAT'S ZONED DIFFERENTLY AND SAY, NOW I WANT TO REZONE AND I WANT TO USE IT FOR A TOTALLY DIFFERENT USAGE THAN IT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED. WHEN WE PURCHASED OUR PROPERTIES IN A DEVELOPING MCKINNEY, THERE WAS A LOT OF EMPTY LAND. WE HAD TRUST IN OUR LEADERSHIP, IN OUR ZONING AND PLANNING OF HOW THAT PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE, HOW THAT LAND IS GOING TO BE USED. WE TRUST IT IN ADVANCE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS COMING IN AT THAT TIME. AND WE IMPLORE YOU TO VALUE THE TRUST THAT WE PUT IN YOU AS OUR LEADERSHIP TO PROTECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR SMALL LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT JUST WANTS TO LIVE IN PEAC.

AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY RELIGION OR ANYTHING ELSE. IT IS STRICTLY OBJECTIVELY. LOOK

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WORSHIPING. AND HE SAID THAT THERE WOULD BE TWO SETS OF PRAYER TIMES. AND THEN HE SAID THAT THE PEOPLE WOULD COME IN CARS LIKE THEIR FAMILY WOULD COME. YET THE PRAYER TIME THAT IT'S IS THE MOST DIFFICULT, THAT WE ALL HAVE A CHALLENGE IS ON A FRIDAY. SO MOST OF YOU HAVE JOBS. YOU DON'T TAKE YOUR FAMILIES WITH YOU TO WORK, SO THEIR FAMILIES AREN'T GOING TO BE IN THE CAR. THERE ARE GOING TO BE 5 OR 600 CARS PARKING THERE. SO, THAT'S THAT'S MY FIRST CONCERN. THE SECOND CONCERN IS THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE ISLAM ASSOCIATION SAID THAT HE BROUGHT UP THE EL DORADO AND HARDEN SPACE, AND IT IS BEHIND IF ANYONE DOESN'T KNOW, IT IS BEHIND, LIKE A CHICKEN, HAMBURGER PLACE OR TACO PLACE OR SOMETHING. AND SONIC AND THE BANK AND YES, THEY DO PARK AT TOM THUMB AND THEY DO ALL WALK ACROSS THE STREET. THEY PARK AT MCDONALD'S, THEY PARK ALL UP AND DOWN THAT STREET AT OTHER BUSINESSES. IT AFFECTS THOSE OTHER BUSINESSES. THAT BEGS THE QUESTION, HOW DID THEY SUBMIT THE PLANS FOR THAT BUILDING AND ONLY HAVE 45 PARKING SPACES? SO THAT'S A CURIOUS QUESTION TO ME. AND SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE. WHAT ASSURANCES DO WE HAVE FROM YOU THAT THIS ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN? IT IS VERY DANGEROUS. IT IS ACTUALLY VERY DANGEROUS FOR THEIR MEMBERS TO BE CROSSING THE STREET, WHERE TRAFFIC IS, IS EVERYWHERE. WE HAVE, A LOT OF CONCERNS FOR HEALTH. THE, THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES IS ONE CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, HEAVIER TRAFFIC. ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER. BUT WHAT ASSURANCES DO WE HAVE FROM YOU THAT THIS ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN, JUST LIKE IT DID AT EL DORADO? AND HARDEN? SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS LAVERY. PLEASE KNOW WE'RE TAKING NOTES AND WE'LL HAVE STAFF IN THE APPLICANT COME BACK UP WHEN WE GET THROUGH WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING. NEXT CARD IS HENRY NEVES. IS THAT CLOSE? 5320 STONEBROOK CROSSING. YES. ME GOOD EVENING OF A LOT OF MEMBERS HERE HAVE ADDRESSED SOME OF THE ISSUES AND WHAT COMES TO MIND TO ME. I LIVE STONEBROOK CROSSING AS YOU JUST STATED, AND I'M ON THE BLUE ZONE DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE MOSQUE. SO YOU'RE GOING TO CUT DOWN SOME TREES, RIGHT? AND THERE'S HERE'S THE FIRST THING LIGHTING ISSUE EACH CAR PRODUCES ABOUT 600 TO 1000 LUMEN. WHEN THOSE TREES IN THE IN THE WINTER THERE'S NO LEAVES TO COVER. I'M GOING TO BE THAT LIGHT'S GOING TO HIT MY HOUSE. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO BE, SUBJECTED TO THIS. THE VEHICLES WHEN THEY TURN ON NOISE POLLUTION, 500 VEHICLES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXACT NUMBER IS. A

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THAT IS A HUGE BOTTLENECK. THAT IS A THAT IS A RECIPE FOR TROUBLE. THERE'S A NUMBER OF, PROTECTED ANIMALS THAT LIVE THERE. BIRDS, THAT SPARROW WITH THE CRANE. IT'S A PROTECTED ANIMAL. HE'S GOING TO BE IMPACTED, THERE'S SOME. I FORGET WHAT THE OTHER BIRD IS. I CAN'T QUITE REMEMBER. THERE'S A NUMBER OF PROTECTED ANIMALS THAT LIVE THERE. THEY WILL BE IMPACTED.

THE CREEK RUNS RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE. SO LET'S SAY THEY MAKE CHANGES TO THAT. WE'LL BE IMPACTED. WE GET A GOOD FLOOD. I HAVE DAMAGE, I DON'T HAVE FLOOD PROTECTION. WHO'S GOING TO PICK UP THE TAB FOR THAT? OKAY, LOOK AT THAT. MY HOUSE. I WILL LOSE MY PROPERTY. RALLY IS GOING TO DROP LIKE A LIKE A ROCK. AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT'S THEIR CONCERN. I'M NOT GOING TO HOLD IT, PULL ANY PUNCHES HERE. I THINK THIS IS A MAJOR CONCERN FOR ME AND A MAJOR PROBLEM. SO I THINK THE BIGGEST PART RIGHT THERE IS THE CONGESTION, THE TRAFFIC AND THE LOSS OF, PROPERTY VALUE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT, JOE DEL HOLIDAY. I WILL BE SUPER QUICK. JOE DEL HOLIDAY, 5205 STONEY TRAIL AND I LIVE IN STONEBROOK CROSSING, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP. NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BUILDING ITSELF, BUT WE TRY TO FIGHT AS A COMMUNITY AGAINST THE EVENTS THAT ARE GOING ON THE CORNER RIGHT THERE AT LAKE FOREST AND VIRGINIA. WE WERE UNSUCCESSFUL. I DO BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE HORRIFIC WITH THE TRAFFIC WHEN THAT IS FULLY IMPLEMENTED. AND I WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT JUST THE BUILDING FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT THIS WONDERFUL CITY HAS ALLOWED AN EVENT CENTER TO COME INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S THAT IS RIDICULOUS BY ITSELF. SO NOW WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL EVENT CENTER THAT IS GOING TO BE PACKED ON THE WEEKENDS, EVERY WEEKEND. I'M SURE BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF WHO THEY ARE TARGETING TO COME AND USE THE FACILITY. THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT WILL BE IMPACTED, WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT. AND THEN OF COURSE, WE HAVE OUR OTHER NEIGHBORS, WHICH THERE HAVE BEEN PHENOMENAL NEIGHBORS. THE MEMORY CARE WITH NOT AS MUCH COMING IN AND OUT. THE COMMUNITY IS GROWING. AS EVERYONE HAS MENTIONED, THE STREETS HAVE BEEN WIDENED BECAUSE WE KNOW MORE PEOPLE ARE COMING IN. WE HAVE TO REALLY STOP AND LOOK AT THE FACTS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A TRAFFIC STUDY. SCHOOL IS NOT IN SESSION, AS PLENTY OF PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED, AND WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE EVENT CENTER. SO THOSE TWO THINGS I DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE NOTE ALSO THE CREEK. I WOULD LOVE TO PUT ON RECORD THAT THERE BE SOME TYPE OF ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY PERFORMED AS FAR AS THE CREEK, THE TREES, ETC. THAT IS SUPER IMPORTANT. WE TALK ABOUT BUFFERING. THERE REALLY ISN'T A BUFFERING THERE. THERE'S SOME BEAUTIFUL TREES, THERE IS SOME WILDLIFE, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND IF THOSE TREES ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED. SMALLER BABY TREES ARE GOING TO BE PLANTED AND ALLOWED TO GROW. WHAT DOES THE BUFFERING LOOK LIKE? NOT JUST THE TERM BUFFERING, BUT IT IS VERY ADJACENT. IF YOU GUYS COME OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOW THIS COULD BE ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IS BAFFLING TO ME. IF I WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT WHEN I PURCHASED MY HOME SEVEN YEARS AGO, I WOULD NOT HAVE. AMEN SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE JUST NOTING THE FACTS. I DON'T CARE WHAT IS GOING THERE. THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE FOR ME PERSONALLY, AND I WANT TO APOLOGIZE IF ANYONE WAS OFFENDED BY ANY COMMENTS EARLIE, THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE. WE HAVE A LOT OF CHILDREN. I GO TO WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR FIVE DAYS A WEEK, AND COMING IN AND OUT WHEN IT IS SCHOOL, I HAVE TO WAIT FOR CHILDREN. I HAVE TO BE PATIENT WITH CHILDREN, WITH PEOPLE WALKING THEIR DOGS. WE ARE A COMMUNITY, SO I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO PICTURE A COMMUNITY WHERE WE, OUR VOICES ARE NOT BEING HEARD. WE WERE SO AGAINST THAT EVENT CENTER AND THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AND PEOPLE IT'S GOING TO BRING INTO OUR AREA, WE WERE NOT HEARD. IT WAS ALLOWED. AND NOW WE HAVE THIS. WE PAY TAXES, WE OWN HOMES. WE SELECTED THIS AREA FOR A REASON AND I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYBODY'S BELIEFS ARE, WE

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LET'S NOT KID OURSELVES. EVEN WITH THE TREES. YOU CAN SEE LIGHT THROUGH THE TREES. WE HAVE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE RIGHT THERE AT THE TREE LINE. SO I WOULD IMPLORE AND ASK YOU TO PLEASE COME OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND SEE HOW WE LIVE BEFORE YOU MAKE A HOLIDAY. THANK YOU. STEPHANIE LACKEY. GOOD EVENING. I'M STEPHANIE LACKEY AND I LIVE AT 401 SOUTH VILLAGE DRIVE IN STONY BROOK CROSSING, I WOULD ALSO ASK YOU TO OPPOSE THIS CHANGE, AND I HAVE MANY OF THE SAME REASONS AS OTHER PEOPLE, I DID JUST WANT TO MAYBE HIGHLIGHT KIND OF THE MAGNITUDE OF THE POTENTIAL POPULATION OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING. ACTUALLY, MAYBE I SHOULD BACK UP AND SAY, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO OPPOSE IT SIMPLY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY PLANS. AND SO, IF WE MAKE THIS CHANGE NOW AND THEN, PLANS COME IN THAT ARE ENORMOUS, WE CAN'T GO BACK AND CHANGE IT BACK, BUT FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND, WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, WITH THE POTENTIAL. I KNOW WE'VE SAID IT BEFORE, THE POTENTIAL OF 3000 PEOPLE, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT THERE. ALL THE TIME, THAT'S THE SAME MAGNITUDE OF THE STUDENT POPULATION AT MCKINNEY BOYD HIGH SCHOOL. SO IF YOU TOOK MCKINNEY BOYD HIGH SCHOOL AND PUT IT IN THAT SMALL SPACE, THAT'S EXTREME. THAT'S EXTREME. AND I KNOW, I KNOW THAT MAYBE THEY'RE NOT THERE NOW, BUT LIKE WE'VE SAID BEFORE, THEY'RE PLANNING ON GROWING AND IT COULD HAPPEN QUICKER THAN PEOPLE REALIZE, I WAS JUST WONDERING, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY. YEP. I AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYBODY SAID. DO IT LATER. HAS A TRAFFIC STUDY BEEN DONE AT THE CURRENT MOSQUE? IT WOULD BE MAYBE GOOD TO CHECK THAT OUT, NOT JUST VISIT, BUT DO WHATEVER YOU DO FOR TRAFFIC STUDIES. LET'S SEE, I, I JUST ALSO WANTED TO EMPHASIZE WE'VE SAID IT BEFORE, BUT THERE'S TWO ENTRANCES TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I LIVE ON SOUTH VILLAGE DRIVE, WHICH IS PART OF THE U. AND SO IT'S NOT ONLY THE PEOPLE, SOME OF OUR OWN NEIGHBORS MIGHT ACTUALLY CAUSE DANGER TO US BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL OF THE CROWDING AT CRUTCHER CROSSING IN VIRGINIA AND JUST TAKE STONE STONY BROOK CROSSING OR OR, SOUTH VILLAGE DRIVE AS THEIR EXIT OUT. SO AGAIN, JUST SAFETY FOR CHILDREN AND OTHER ADULTS WALKING AROUND, I'M JUST GOING TO ASK YOU, I KNOW THAT THEY OWN THE LAND AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO, DEVELOP THE LAND, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO ASK THAT ALL OF US DEVELOP IT RESPONSIBLY. AND I'M JUST ASKING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD PROTECT US AS HOMEOWNERS. AS WELL AS YOU PROTECT THEM. WE ALL NEED PROTECTION. SO MAYBE HELP US, PROTECT US AGAINST OURSELVES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS LACKEY. OUR NEXT CARD IS ROBERT PACQUIAO'S 5209 STONEY TRAIL. MY NAME IS BEEN MISPRONOUNCED MANY WAYS, BUT THAT'S THAT'S THE FIRST ONE, ROBERT PAQUETTE, AND I'M A HOMEOWNER, AND I LIVE HERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO ACCENTUATE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEING A CLOSED NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S UNIQUE IN THAT NATURE. I MEAN, HOW MANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS ARE LIKE THAT THAT ARE NOT GATED? AND THEN HOW MANY OF THOSE MIGHT HAVE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY RIGHT IN FRONT THAT CAN AFFECT THE INS AND OUTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IT'S UNIQUE IN THAT NATURE. WE DO HAVE CHURCHES, JUST A FEW HUNDRED YARDS WEST ON VIRGINIA FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE FRONTED ON, VIRGINIA. THEY DON'T AFFECT NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY FRONT ON TO VIRGINIA, AND THEY COME AND GO FROM VIRGINIA. THEY DON'T AFFECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD DEALS. THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY, AND I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO KEEP THE CODE THE WAY IT IS, BECAUSE IT'S PERFECT FOR MEDICAL OFFICES. TITLE SHOPS OR TITLE OFFICE, A DONUT SHOP. IT'S GREAT SIMPLY BY

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MY NAME IS TERRY LESKO, I LIVE WITHIN THE BLUE CIRCLE. I WANT TO REITERATE EVERYBODY ELSE'S COMMENTS AS WELL, BUT I THINK MY MAIN CONCERN IS THAT TREE LINE, BECAUSE THAT DOES BLOCK EVERY WINDOW I HAVE IN MY HOUSE. I LOOK AT THAT TREE LINE, IF WE LOSE THAT TREE LINE, I'M GOING TO LOSE EVERY VIEW I'VE GOT, I TOOK A PICTURE OUTSIDE MY BEDROOM WINDOW LAST NIGHT OF THAT BEAUTIFUL SUNSET. I WILL LOSE THAT BECAUSE A 45 FOOT BUILDING WILL TOWER OVER THOSE TREES. THE NURSING HOME, I'VE BEEN TOLD, IS ABOUT 25FT HIGH. YOU CANNOT SEE IT OVER THE TREES, 45FT IS GOING TO TOWER OVER THAT, I JUST THINK IT'S TOO BIG OF A BUILDING FOR THAT SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY WITH AS MUCH ACREAGE THAT'S PROTECTED ALONG THAT CREEK LINE.

THE ONLY OTHER I THINK I HAVE TO ADD IS, WELL, AGAIN, TO THE FACT THAT THE NATURE THAT WE HEAR IN MY BACKYARD THAT COVERS THE NOISE FROM VIRGINIA, BECAUSE THAT TREE LINE, I CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE WINTER MONTHS AND THE SUMMER AND THE SPRING MONTHS AND HOW MUCH I DON'T HEAR THE TRAFFIC WHEN I'M STANDING IN MY BACKYARD. OTHER THAN ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED, THE IN AND THE OUT, WE TRAVEL MOSTLY THROUGH, THE VILLAGE EXIT, INCLUDING MY DAUGHTER WHO IS A SENIOR AT BOYD. WE TELL HER TO GO OUT THE LIGHT BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC IS SO BAD ON VIRGINIA. YOU COULD POST A POLICE OFFICER THERE EVERY DAY, BUT YOU WOULD STILL HAVE PEOPLE FLYING DOWN VIRGINIA. THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WE GET ON VIRGINIA IS JUST SINCE IT'S GONE FROM 4 TO 6 LANES, IS AN IMMENSELY MORE, AND IT'S GETTING FASTER AND FASTER.

SO I THINK IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A HAZARD WITH THE TRAFFIC AND THE CONGESTION. OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MISS ASKEW. NEXT CARD IS FRANK KELLY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT CARD IS TIFFANY TESCH. THOSE CARDS ARE IN OPPOSITION. NEXT CARD IS DEBBIE TESCH. I DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.

NEXT CARD IS MARK MARTIN. MR. MARTIN IN OPPOSITION. NEXT CARD IS DAVID MCGILL. I DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT IN OPPOSITION. NEXT CARD IS KEITH DYER. MR. DYER. GOOD EVENING, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND ADDRESS YOU, AS YOU KNOW, MY NAME IS KEITH DYER. I LIVE AT 5309 ARROWHEAD WAY, IN THE STONY BROOK CROSSING NEIGHBORHOOD. I, WANT TO USE MY TIME TO REITERATE POINTS MADE BY MY FELLOW CITIZENS, AS WELL AS LEAVE YOU WITH A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID. I IT DOESN'T TAKE A GENIUS TO FIGURE OUT THIS IS A HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE USE OF THE SITE, BARRING DIFFERENCES ON ON RELIGION AND SO ON, JUST THE SIZE OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED WITH THE ZONING CHANGE MAKES, ZERO, ZERO SENSE. AND I THINK THEY'VE ALL MADE GREAT POINTS TO THAT. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE, EXISTING GREENBELT THAT DOES EXIST. IT IS ALL I WOULD MAYBE NOT ALL, BUT VERY HEAVILY DECIDUOUS. SO THREE, 4 OR 5 MONTHS OF THE YEAR. THERE'S NO BUFFER THERE, I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT I'M PRETTY SURE MOST

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SO AGAIN, THERE'S NO SITE PLAN SUBMITTED YET, SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THAT. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO MAKE A DECISION UNTIL YOU COME VISIT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND UNTIL YOU GO VISIT BOTH THESE MOSQUE LOCATIONS AND SEE THE SITUATION FOR YOURSELF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. DYER. VERY MUCH. NEXT CARD IS KATHY ADAMS. THANK YOU.

COMMISSION FOR LISTENING TO ME TONIGHT. MY NAME IS KATHY ADAMS AND I LIVE IN THE BEAUTIFUL BEDROOM COMMUNITY AT STONEBROOK CROSSING. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS CALLED IT. JUST A LITTLE BEDROOM COMMUNITY. THE EVENT CENTER WAS ONE THING WE LOST. THIS IS JUST OVER THE TOP FOR ME. I'M A SENIOR CITIZEN. I LIVE 14, 15 YEARS. IT'S GROWN. WE ALL KNOW THAT. I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT MY HOME VALUE, MY SAFETY. JUST JUST THE WHOLE IDEA OF IT, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S BEEN SAID. OKAY, 48 MORE CARDS. EVERYTHING'S BEEN SAID. I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO TO OUR LITTLE BEDROOM COMMUNITY TO PUT THAT HUGE BUILDING MEGA. IT'S LIKE A MEGA BUILDING TO ME, IT'S LIKE YOU PUT A COSTCO THERE OR A WALMART PLUS IT'S THE SAME THING TO ME.

WE WOULDN'T WANT THAT EITHER. SO, AS A SENIOR CITIZEN OF THIS BEDROOM COMMUNITY, I TRULY OPPOSE THIS CHANGE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS ADAMS NEXT CARD IS GENE ASSAD. GENE ASSAD. GOOD EVENING. I'LL DO US ALL A FAVOR AND BE BRIEF, WHICH IS AGAINST MY NATURE. BUT IN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST TO PREFACE MY COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN, BEEN STATED SO FAR THIS EVENING HAS REALLY STRUCK A CHORD. AND IT REALLY SUMS UP THE ISSUES THAT WE ALL SEE IN THE PROPOSED, IN THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE, I'VE LIVED IN I'M A RESIDENT OF STONEBROOK CROSSING. I'VE LIVED THERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS. I LIVE AT 5501 CRYSTAL COURT, AND MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED THERE AND SEEN THE SEEN THE AREA GROW AND DEVELOP, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, FOR THE BETTER, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS LOCATION IS JUST REALLY NOT SUITABLE FOR

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AND ANYBODY WHO WAS LEFT THERE IN THE MORNING HOURS ON THE WAY TO WORK, WE'LL SEE THAT AND CAN TESTIFY TO THAT. AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, THE SAFETY IS CONCERNED, I THINK THAT'S BEEN THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED. THE FACT THAT THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS FACILITY, WILL IS, YOU KNOW, THE SIZE THAT IT'S BEING PROPOSED. IT'S JUST NOT THE LAND. THERE IS A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY. AND THIS FACILITY JUST WOULD WOULD NOT FIT INTO THAT. THAT PLAN FOR THAT GENERAL THAT THEY HAD FOR THE GENERAL COMMUNITY. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S MY TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. MR. NEXT CARD IS JOANNE ASSAD. HI, I'M JOANNE. I GOT TO WAKE UP EVERYBODY. I KNOW WE'RE BORED, I LIVE AT 5501 CRYSTAL COURT. NOW, LAST TIME I WAS HERE WAS FOR THE EVENT CENTER, AND I HAD ASKED ANY OF YOU IF YOU HAD ACTUALLY DRIVEN TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO SEE WHAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKED LIKE. NOW, DID ANYONE HAVE A CHANCE? YOU DID. I'M PROUD. SO YOU UNDERSTAND OUR PROPERTY THAT WE'LL GET DOUBLE WHAMMIED AT BOTH OF OUR ONLY EXITS? WITH TWO THINGS OF THAT STATURE, WE CAN'T GET OUT. WHAT? YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO TRAP US LITERALLY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. WE WON'T BE ABLE TO GET OUT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE PROPERTY, BUT WE HAVE CRUTCHER CROSSING. THEN THE NEXT BLOCK OVER WOULD BE VILLAGE, AND THEN THE NEXT BLOCK OVER IS, LAKE FOREST, WHICH IS A MAJOR INTERSECTION. AND ONE THING I DID OBSERVE PERSONALLY WAS THE DAY OF THE GROUNDBREAKING WAS I WAS COMING FROM I WAS GOING WEST ON LAKE FOREST, AND I WAS LIKE, WHAT'S ALL THIS TRAFFIC? AND I WAS APPROACHING THE LAKE FOREST INTERSECTION AND AN AMBULANCE WAS TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE INTERSECTION, BUT IT WAS ALL BACKED UP. NOW YOU THINK AN EVENT CENTER AND A MOSQUE AND REGULAR TRAFFIC AND BOYD HIGH SCHOOL AND WE HAVE LIKE OTHER WE HAVE DOWEL MIDDLE SCHOOLS DOWN THE STREET. ALL OF THAT ISN'T GOING TO CULMINATE FOR A CLEAR PATH AT SOME POINT FOR YOUR EMERGENCY SERVICES. THAT CONCERNED ME. AND I THOUGHT OF THAT AGAIN RECENTLY BECAUSE I FELL IN MY CLOSET AND BROKE MY CLAVICLE AND I THOUGHT, OH, MY GOD, WHAT IF ALL THESE BUILDINGS WERE BUILT AND I BROKE SOMETHING, SOMETHING SERIOUS HAPPENED AND AN AMBULANCE COULDN'T GET BACK TO ME. AND I THINK EVERY ALL THE PARENTS HAVE STRESSED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF BUSY FACILITIES. WELL, NOW WE KNOW THERE'S A DRINKING FACILITY ON THE CORNER, AND WE KNOW THAT CHILDREN WILL WALK UP TO BOYD HIGH SCHOOL. THEY JOG, THEY. I'VE SEEN LITTLE ONES LIKE WALK FROM THE MIDDLE SCHOOL ACROSS VIRGINIA PARKWAY. AND THIS DOESN'T JUST INVOLVE US. AND I HOPE THIS PEOPLE FROM THE NORTH

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AND THEY HAVE TO SHARE THAT LIGHT. SO THEY'LL HAVE TO TRY TO GET OUT OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TRY TO GET OUT OF OUR DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT CORNER PROPERTY, THE PROPOSED PROPERTY WILL HAVE TO TRY TO GET OUT OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT, OUT OF THEIR, PROPERTY. SO IT'S REALLY MAKING IT TOO CONGESTED FOR US. AND THE CLOSE PROXIMITY TO LAKE FOREST INTERSECTION. AND I ALSO JUST OBSERVED A CONDO, NO ZONING, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ON, VIRGINIA PARKWAY, JUST PAST LAKE FOREST. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO THROW CONDOS INTO THE MIX. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY IT SAYS OFFICE AND CONDO. SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, HOW MUCH CAN WE PACK INTO THAT CORNER ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU. MR. SORRY NEXT CARD IS BETH DAWSON. BETH DAWSON. IS IT POSSIBLE TO DRAW ON THE SCREEN? I THOUGHT I SAW SOMEONE DO THAT EARLIER. I'M SORRY. IS IT POSSIBLE TO DRAW ON THE SCREEN? I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE BEEN POINTING AT THAT. IT IS? YEAH. SOMEONE I DON'T KNOW. YEAH, NEXT CARD IS MARY WINE. I'LL YIELD MY TIME. EVERYTHING HAS PRETTY MUCH BEEN SAID. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. NEXT CARD IS MARK MCLAUGHLIN.

MY NAME IS MARK MCLAUGHLIN AND I LIVE IN CAMBRIDGE. IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE AND QUITE FRANKLY, MY CONCERNS HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID IS IT DEALS WITH TRAFFIC AND SAFETY OF THE ROADS AND PROPERTY VALUES AND I, I DO VALUE HAVING A PLACE TO WORSHIP. I'M I AM A BELIEVER OF IN MY OWN WAY, I VALUE WHAT THEY WANT TO BELIEVE, WHERE THEY DO IT. BUT I AM WEARY OF THE TRAFFIC AND TRYING TO MAKE THE SHOE FIT. I DON'T THINK IT'S AN APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR IT. I, I THINK WHAT WOULD BE IDEAL IN A PERFECT WORLD IS TO CHOOSE A LOT THAT HAS GOOD FLOW, ALLOW PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LIVE AROUND THAT, TO MOVE IN, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE NO ISSUES. BUT I KNOW WE DON'T LIVE IN A PERFECT WORLD, BUT I, I KNOW THEY'RE MY NEIGHBORS. WE ARE TO LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS. WE DON'T FEAR THEM. NOW, THAT'S THAT'S SO 20 YEARS AGO. I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS JUST A WRONG PLACE. AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN THIS AREA FOR 30 YEARS, APPROACHING 30 YEARS. I'VE SEEN THE TRAFFIC INCREASE TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S JUST NOT SAFE AS IT IS NOW. I CAN'T EVEN GET OUT OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S, YOU KNOW, I COULD PACK A LUNCH AND SIT THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO HAVE TIME TO HAVE LUNCH. I JUST, I THINK I FEAR FOR MY LIFE GETTING AROUND THE CORNER AS IT IS. AND I, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE WHAT, I JAKE SAID IS GOING TO BE LIKE OTHER CHURCHES AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT MIGHT MEET ON SUNDAY OR WEDNESDAY NIGHT. A COUPLE TIMES A WEEK ON LIGHT TRAFFIC DAYS. THIS IS GOING TO BE A POSSIBILITY OF FIVE TIMES A DAY LESS THAN WHAT WE EXPECT OR WHAT WE ASSUME WILL BE, YOU KNO, LARGE CROWDS. BUT IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, GOING TO BE USED MORE OFTEN. AND IF YOU'VE SEEN THE TRAFFIC ON THIS ROAD ON FRIDAY NIGHT WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING HOME FOR WORK, THEY'RE ALL IN A HURRY TO GET HOME. IT'S GOING TO BE UGLY. AND I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT. I THINK THAT THERE'S A REASON THAT WE HAVE THIS, YOU KNOW, ZONED, OUR PLAN IS ZONED OUT AND IT'S APPROVED EARLY ON. WE ALL BUY INTO THAT. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS KIND OF A SWITCH AND BAIT THING GOING ON HERE. AND I, YOU KNOW, I, I LOVE THEM AS PEOPLE. I WANT THEM TO HAVE THEIR PLACE TO WORSHIP. I DON'T WANT TO TREAT. I'M NOT TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, TALK DOWN AS IF I'M BETTER THAN THEM. I'M NOT. I'M JUST ANOTHER PERSON PERSON. BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THIS. AND I HAVE SEEN THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. WE'VE SEEN TRAFFIC PROBLEMS WITH FIRST, MCKINNEY BAPTIST CHURCH OR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. THEY HAVE TO HIRE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS JUST TO GET THE TRAFFIC TO FLOW. SO I'M IN OPPOSITION, AND I THINK WE NEED TO STICK WITH THE PLAN. THIS IS THIS WAS ZONED FOR LIGHT BUSINESS TYPE TRAFFIC. THAT WOULD BE PERFECT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU, MISS MCLAUGHLIN. NEXT CARD IS JOHN WHITE. SKI MUSEUM. EVENING,

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NOT UNLESS YOU ALL CUT INTO THAT DIVIDER, WHICH IS NOT GOING TO BE PRETTY. SO THE DE FACTO INGRESS IS GOING TO BE ON CRUTCHER CROSSING. THAT MEANS ALL OF THOSE 300 CARS ARE GOING TO BE COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND INTO THAT ENTRANCE. ALL OF THEM COMING FROM EASTBOUND FOR CERTAIN, COMING FROM WESTBOUND. HUMAN NATURE. FIRST TURN, I CAN MAKE TO GO AHEAD AND GO IN IS WHERE I'M GOING TO GO. I'M NOT GOING TO GO FURTHER DOWN IN ORDER TO COME IN AND BACKTRACK. THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS. SO THAT MEANS THAT ALL OF THE TRAFFIC THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING IS ALL GOING TO BE ON CRUTCHER. ALL OF IT'S GOING TO COME IN THERE.

OKAY. SECONDARY. THE OTHER RELIGIOUS FACILITIES AND CHURCHES THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER WEST, THEY ARE SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. THEY DO NOT SURROUND THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. GO WEST FURTHER STILL OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF STONY BROOK. CROSS STONE BRIDGE. AND THERE'S ANOTHER CHURCH JUST OFF THERE.

IT IS NOT THE ENTRANCE TO A I MEAN, IT IS AN ENTRANCE BACK TOWARDS ONE, BUT IT IS NOT THE ACTUAL ENTRANCE TO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE AND THE TRAFFIC AT THAT INTERSECTION, WHEN THEY'RE HAVING SERVICES IS PRETTY NASTY. THAT'S WHY THEY EVENTUALLY HAD TO PUT A LIGHT.

AND THEY USED TO HAVE I THINK THEY STILL DO HAVE TWO POLICE OFFICERS EVERY TIME THEY'RE HAVING SERVICES JUST TO CONTROL THAT TRAFFIC. THAT'S THE SORT OF THING THAT WE'RE INVITING HERE, OKAY. WITH THIS SIZE FACILITY, I LIVE BACK OVER HERE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE WEST SIDE FACING, WHAT IS IT? I ALWAYS KEEP FORGETTING IT. THE OTHER SENIOR WAREHOUSE. BEING ONE, I CAN CALL IT THAT, AT ANY RATE, WHEN THE TREES DURING THOSE 4 OR 5 MONTHS, WHEN THE TREES DROP THEIR LEAVES, I CAN WAVE TO MY NEIGHBORS A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET AWAY OVER IT AT AT THE CHATEAU, YOU KNOW, AND THEY CAN SEE ME, TOO. ALL RIGHT. SO THE PRIVACY ISSUE IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE THERE FOR THE PEOPLE ALONG THE SOUTH END OF THAT PROPERTY, THE LIGHTING ISSUES. YEAH. WE GET THE LIGHTS FROM THE CHATEAU DURING THOSE MONTHS. THERE'S JUST I MEAN, IT'S SUBDUED.

THEY'RE VERY NICE ABOUT IT, BUT STILL WE GET THE LIGHT POLLUTION FROM IT. SO, AND I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS THEY ARE PLANNING ON HAVING OUTDOOR EVENTS THERE DURING THE THEIR HIGH HOLY DAYS, BECAUSE THE CAPACITY WOULD BE TOO MUCH FOR THAT BUILDING TO HANDLE. SO THERE IS GOING TO BE A NOISE PROBLEM. CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR. AND I'LL GIVE BACK MY LAST EIGHT SECONDS. THANK YOU, MR. WHITE. NEXT CARD IS ALEXANDER PEREZ. THAT WAS QUICK.

GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE TIME SO WE CAN ALL COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY TO REACH A FORM OF AGREEMENT. HAS SOMEONE THAT SPENT A LOT OF TIME AT A CATHOLIC TEMPLE? I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHATEVER ESTIMATES ARE BEING PRESENTED TO YOU, THEY'RE JUST AN ESTIMATE. THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO COME CLOSE TO SHOW YOU THE REAL TRAFFIC THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE. AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN THIS COMMUNITY, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW LITTLE THE ENTIRE DESIGN OF THIS BUILDING OFFERS. THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY TO COMPENSATE FOR ALL THE TROUBLE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BRING. I'M A FIRM BELIEVER THAT WE ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO PRACTICE OUR RELIGION, BUT I'M ALSO A FIRM BELIEVER THAT WHERE SOMEONE ELSE IS RIGHT ENDS IS WHERE MINE BEGINS AND WHERE THIS DESIGN STANDS IS VERY CONCERNING. THAT TAKES SO LITTLE CONSIDERATION FOR EVERYONE WHO LIVES IN THIS COMMUNITY. I BELIEVE THAT THE CONSTITUTION SPEAKS VERY CLEARLY THAT WE ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO PRACTICE OUR FREEDOM. BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE DESIGN OF THIS TEMPLE HAS, WITH EVERY OTHER TEMPLE WHERE I HAVE BEEN, AIMS TO BRING WAY MORE PEOPLE THAN THE ESTIMATE ON PAPER. IF WE LOOK BACK AT EASTERN TIME, AT OUR CHURCHES HAD CATHOLIC OR CHRISTIANS. IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE DURING EASTER, YOU KNOW VERY WELL THAT IT'S WAY

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THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS TEMPLE, WHICH AGAIN, I'M GOING TO SAY, BECAUSE I HAVE FRIENDS WHO ARE MUSLIM, WE NEED A BETTER COMPROMISE THAN WHAT IT'S BEEN OFFERED TO US RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF WITH ALL THE CHANGES IN THE SONY THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE, AND I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN REACH A MORE REASONABLE AGREEMENT THAN WHAT IT'S BEEN OFFERED TO US. RIGHT NOW. ULTIMATELY, I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY TO DECIDE ON A BETTER SOLUTION FOR EVERYBODY. SO WE AS A COMMUNITY CAN KEEP WHAT WE LOVE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY. AND ALSO THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY CAN ALSO HAVE A PLACE FOR THEM TO WORSHIP. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME. THANK YOU, MR. PEREZ, VERY MUCH.

THANKS. CARDS. JOANNA DYER JOANNA DYER. HELLO COUNCILMAN, AND WOMEN, I FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I KNOW IT'S LATE. YOU GUYS ARE TIRED. YOU HAVE FAMILIES, AND YOU DO THIS EVERY DAY IN AND OUT. I JUST WANT TO LET. I MEAN, I ECHO WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID TONIGHT, BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT THIS IS JUST NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AREA, I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE PURCHASED THE LAND AND THAT THEY ARE PROBABLY GOING TO GO AHEAD WITH THIS. AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT ANY OF US CAN DO ABOUT IT, MY PROBLEM IS THE EXPANSION, THE ADDITION, EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE ADDING ON TO THIS, AND ALSO, I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE DO NOT HATE OUR NEIGHBORS. WE DO NOT HATE, ANY RELIGION. I'M CHRISTIAN, AND JESUS TELLS US TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER IN JOHN 1512 TO 13. HE STATES, MY COMMAND IS THIS LOVE EACH OTHER AS I HAVE LOVED YOU. GREATER LOVE HAS NO OTHER THAN THIS TO LAY DOWN ONE'S LIFE FOR ONE'S FRIENDS. I JUST, I KNOW THIS SOUNDS SILLY, BUT I ASK THAT THEY THAT THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THIS LAND CONSIDER EVEN MAYBE, RESELLING IT AND PURCHASING ANOTHER PROPERTY WHERE THIS IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT THEY ARE WANTING TO DO. I ALSO, ASK YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE IT, IF SOMEONE WERE TO BUILD THIS IN FRONT OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT IT, AND ALSO I WOULD ASK, LIKE TO ASK OUR MUSLIM FRIENDS HOW WOULD THEY FEEL ABOUT IF SOMEONE WERE TO BUILD THIS IN FRONT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, SO, THAT'S THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. I REALLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MR. DYER. THE NEXT CARD IS DAVID MONROE. MR. MONROE. ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT CARD. THIS MAY BE A SERIES OF THOSE THAT DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IF YOU SO CHOOSE. FIRST CARD IS CHRISTINA MACKENZIE IN OPPOSITION? I CALL YOUR NAME WHEN YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. JUST RAISE YOUR HAND, RUSTY MCKINNEY IN OPPOSITION. LESLIE MCKINNEY IN OPPOSITION. CATHERINE COMBS, OPPOSITION.

ANDREW COMBS. MR. COMB, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? HELLO. ANDREW COMBS, 401 CRUTCHER CROSSING OFF THE MAIN ROAD THERE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, I'LL KEEP THIS BRIEF. I THINK, MY MAIN CONCERN IS JUST GOING FROM PD TO C1, I KNOW THEY DO NOT HAVE AN OFFICIAL PLAN, BUT I THINK MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THEY ARE PROPOSING A 45,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY, WHICH. I'M EXCITED FOR THEM TO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY, SO THAT IS NOT IN QUESTION. I JUST THINK THAT BIG OF A FACILITY WITH, WOULD BE HARDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT STYLE OF PARKING, WHEREAS IT SOUNDS LIKE WITH THE PD CODE, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE FOR PARKING WITH MULTIPLE BUILDINGS. SO I THINK I WOULD JUST WOULD LIKE TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR PLAN WOULD

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GUY SIMPSON, OPPOSITION. DEANNA SIMPSON. OPPOSITION TO THE ITEM BRIAN LEWIS IN OPPOSITION.

EXCUSE ME. YES THANK YOU, MR. LEWIS. I JUST WANT TO SHOW ONE THING, BECAUSE EVERYONE'S BEEN POINTING OUT THAT THE TWO DIFFERENT ENTRANCES. AND SO IF YOU IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, IT'S KIND OF LIKE A BACKWARDS FOUR. SO IF YOU SEE THIS GREEN LINE THAT I'M DRAWING HERE. SO REALLY THAT'S THE ONLY ENTRANCE BECAUSE THIS ONE HERE JUST CONNECTS TO THAT ONE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN LINE THERE. SO THE PROBLEM IS WHERE IT'S LOCATED. YOU'RE BASICALLY BLOCKING OUR ONLY REAL ENTRANCE. AND EVERYONE ELSE MIGHT TRY TO FUNNEL THROUGH THERE. AND I BELIEVE THERE WERE SOME SAFETY CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, WITH MORE TRAFFIC FLOWING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET THROUGH THAT MAIN ROAD. SO ALL THOSE HOUSES AND THERE'S EVEN MORE HOUSES BELOW THE PICTURE HERE THAT ARE KIND OF BLOCKING THAT. BUT THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, MR. LEWIS, NEXT CARD IS, CHIBBARO 5550 NORTH CENTRAL, NO POSITION TAKEN, JOEL MCGILL IN OPPOSITION. NATHAN MARTEL IN OPPOSITION. SENYO NORDBY, IN OPPOSITION. YES YOU GOT IT. SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, SO, CHAIRMAN COX, YOU DID MAKE A POINT THAT, IF YOU COME UP HERE AND YOU AGREE WITH SOMEONE WHO'S ALREADY SPOKEN, YOU CAN JUST SAY YOU AGREE WITH THEM, RIGHT? I WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. AND, I WANT TO COMMENT ON SOME OF THE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE UP HERE, SO THE INSINUATION THAT THERE'S A LOT OF, ISLAMOPHOBIC SENTIMENTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS, AND I WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. SO I WANT TO ADDRESS THE, MCKINNEY. MR. NORDBY, IF YOU COULD FACE US AND TALK INTO THE MICROPHONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. SO I WANT TO ADDRESS THE MCKINNEY ISLAMIC ASSOCIATION DIRECTLY. SO LIKE I SAID, I WANTED TO HAVE A POSITION AND, I TAKE OFFENSE TO THE INSINUATION THAT THE OPPOSITION TO THIS FACILITY IS BECAUSE OF SOME FORM OF ISLAMOPHOBIA OR DISCRIMINATION. I MEAN, I'M A MINORITY, SO I WOULD KNOW. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT. AND, I ONLY HAVE ONE POINT TO MAKE IN THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT FRIDAYS. WHY IS FRIDAYS SUCH A BIG ISSUE, MR. NORBY, IF YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD FACE THE PODIUM AND SPEAK. WHY IS FRIDAYS. THANK YOU. WHY IS FRIDAYS SUCH A BIG ISSUE? IT'S SUCH A BIG ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S A SCHOOL DAY. AND ONE OF THE EARLIER SPEAKERS, REVEREND, WHO TALKED ABOUT THEIR CHURCH BEING WEST OF THE PROPOSED PROPERTY, TALKED ABOUT, BEING,

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MATOS MICHAEL. IN OPPOSITION. NEXT CARD IS DIANA MATOS MATOS IN OPPOSITION. DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK. JAMES MCCREARY. DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, CORA PAGE IN OPPOSITION. DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK. BARBARA KERLIN IN OPPOSITION. DONNA SANDERS IN OPPOSITION. PARVEEN SHAKIR IN OPPOSITION. 5146 CRYSTAL COURT. ANA ORTEGA IN OPPOSITION. DWIGHT NORDSTROM. NORDSTROM IN OPPOSITION. CHIP LITTLE IN OPPOSITION. TORI BARTH TROY BARTHOLOMEW IN OPPOSITION. YES HELLO. GOOD EVENING. I'LL BE QUICK, MY NAME IS TROY BARTHOLOMEW SAID I LIVE IN STONEBROOK CROSSING, I'M SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM, JUST SOME SIMPLE MATH. I KNOW WE'VE ALL KIND OF HEARD THIS, BUT EVEN AT THE 600 PEOPLE, IF YOU ASSUME 200 PEOPLE OR TWO PEOPLE PER CAR, THAT'S 300 CARS, YOU'RE IMMEDIATELY AT CAPACITY. SO ANY KIND OF TURNOVER, ANY KIND OF CHANGE, ANY KIND OF GROWTH, YOU'RE ALREADY INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, INTO THE PARKING, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT FROM A NUMBERS PERSPECTIVE, AND THEN THE I HAVE TWO QUICK POINTS, I MEAN, THIS IS A RHETORICAL QUESTION, BUT WHAT ACCOUNTABILITY EXISTS FOR WHAT'S BEEN STATED IN REGARDS TO THE SERVICE TIMES AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IT SOUNDS GREAT TODAY. IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S ALMOST BEEN SOME DOWNPLAYING, AND IT'S ONLY THESE DAYS OR THIS MANY PEOPLE, BUT IN REALITY IT SOUNDS GOOD TODAY. BUT THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES THAT WILL PAY FOR IT LATER. SO WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I THINK THIS IS AN INAPPROPRIATE AND INSULTING USE OF THAT SPACE TO OUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE SUCH A LARGE GATHERING PLACE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA OF OUR CITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BARTHOLOMEW, KRISTEN BARTHOLOMEW, I DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU, RIZWAN MUHAMMAD, IN SUPPORT OF. AND YOU HAVE TWO BOXES CHECKED TO SPEAK AND NOT SPEAK.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT CARD. MUSA ABU DHABI'S WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF. HELLO. GOOD EVENING. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, I WISH TO SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT SUPPORT OF THE MCCAIN ISLAMIC ASSOCIATION, I AM A RESIDENT OF MCKINNEY SINCE 1986. I AM ACTUALLY THE FOUNDER OF THE FOUNDATION FOR THE MCKINNEY ISLAMIC ASSOCIATION. BACK IN 1998, WHEN THERE WAS ONLY FIVE FAMILIES, MUSLIM

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ALSO, THEY'RE GOING TO BE ONE IN ANNA RECENTLY IS BEING ESTABLISHED ONE IN ANNA. AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE GOING INTO ANNA. I ALSO HEARD THERE IS GOING TO BE ONE IN PROSPER, WHICH IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MCKINNEY. SO YES, THERE WILL BE A GROWTH IN MCKINNEY.

YES, WE'RE GOING TO GROW, BUT THE GROWTH IS GOING TO BE SPREADING AROUND BECAUSE TYPICALLY NOBODY WANTS TO DRIVE TO FAR, TO GO TO A MOSQUE, TO PRAY. WE'RE ALL LAZY. MORE THAN 2 OR 3 MILES IS TOO MUCH. SO YES, THIS IS GOING TO BE CENTERED TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE CENTER OF MCKINNEY, PEOPLE WHO IS GOING TO BE IN THE SKIRT OF MCKINNEY. THEY HAVE CHOICES. THEY CAN GO TO FRISCO, THEY CAN GO TO ALLEN, THEY GO TO PRINCETON, THEY GO TO, MELISSA, THEY GO TO ANNA, THEY GO TO PROSPER. SO IT'S GOING TO SPREAD AROUND. YES. THE FACILITY IS GOING TO HOLD 600 PEOPLE. BUT FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE CONCERNED ABOUT MORNING, OUR MORNING PRAYERS NEVER GOES BEYOND 6:00 AM. MOST OF OUR TIME MORNING TIMES IS BETWEEN 5 TO 6 AND ONLY PRESENTLY IN OUR LOCATION, 20 TO 30 PEOPLE MAX. THAT'S ALL YOU CAN SEE. BUT 10 TO 20% OF THE POPULATION WILL ATTEND THAT FIRST PRAYER. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MR. ABU DHABI'S.

ARE THERE OTHER CARDS? ARI? IS THAT HERE? IS THAT NEXT? NEXT ANYONE ELSE HAVE A CARD OR ANYONE THAT HAS NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK? WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME TO THE PODIUM. ANYONE ELSE, WHAT WE WILL DO IS ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AT THAT TIME, WE'LL HAVE DIALOG WITH THE STAFF AND THE APPLICANT AND ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE HERE. AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND WOULD LIKE TO, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME TO THE PODIUM. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, A MOTION BY MR. LOBO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SECOND, SECONDED BY MR. WHATLEY. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. RIGHT. THE MOTION CARRIES, THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED. OKAY QUESTIONS? WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST? JAKE, YOU'RE UP BUDDY.

YES, SIR. YES. FIRST, JAKE, COULD YOU JUST GO OVER THE NOISE ORDINANCE, THE TREE ORDINANCE, THE LIGHT ORDINANCE, AND THE DRAINING ENGINEERING REQUIREMENTS IS THE SAME FOR EVERY PROPERTY. IT WOULD BE THE, ESSENTIALLY THE SAME ACROSS THE EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, BUT IT'S THE SAME. YEAH, THE LANGUAGE IN THE CURRENT PD IS THAT THE CREEK BE PRESERVED, THE LANGUAGE IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME. IT JUST SAYS THAT THE CREEK CAN'T BE NEGATIVELY IMPACT IMPACTED, BUT YEAH, I KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE EVENT CENTER THAT WAS ZONED. WHAT 2017, THE EVENT CENTER WAS ACTUALLY, IT CAME FORTH, BECAUSE THERE WAS A PD REQUIREMENT FOR THE SITE PLAN. YEAH, WE DID SITE PLAN. YEAH. AND SO THE ZONING PERMITTING, THAT WAS, THAT WAS, 1997, ACTUALLY 1997. YES IT WAS SOME TIME BACK AND WE'RE JUST,

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OKAY. BUT THEY COULD BUILD ONE FOR SURE. THEY COULD. THEN THEY COULD CHOOSE TO BUILD ANOTHER 1 OR 2 MORE, AT LEAST ON THAT SIT. YES, SIR. OKAY. AND IF IT STAYS AS A PD, THEN THE SITE PLAN WILL HAVE TO COME TO US FOR APPROVAL, I BELIEVE THAT REQUIREMENT IS STILL IN PLACE. YES AND AGAIN, THAT'S FROM THE 1997 ZONING THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY. JAKE. GOOD QUESTION. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN PROPOSALS IN THE PAST THAT, WHERE DEVELOPMENTS MIGHT IMPINGE ON, ON OTHER PROPERTIES AND RESIDENTS AND, AND I'VE SEEN FROM DEVELOPERS, YOU KNOW, VERY EXTENSIVE SITE PLANS THAT THEY'VE PROVIDED, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, ELEVATION DRAWINGS AND EVEN EVEN PERSPECTIVES FROM OTHER LOCATIONS. LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY, DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT COMING FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ASKED FOR? YEAH SO AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN PROCESS, WHICH UNDER THE EXISTING PD, THE SITE PLAN WOULD BE REQUIRED TO COME IN FRONT OF YOU, AS APPROVAL, JUST ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, I BELIEVE. WE DON'T REQUIRE FACADE PLANS AT THIS AREA IN THE CITY.

SO GOING BACK TO THE MTC PRESENTATION WITH CAMERON EARLIER, IT'S REALLY WITHIN THE HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT AREA WHICH IS RIGHT AROUND DOWNTOWN THAT WE REQUIRE FACADE PLANS.

THE STATE DOES NOT ALLOW US TO REQUIRE FACADE PLANS OUTSIDE OF THAT HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT AREA. THE APPLICANT MAY, CHOOSE TO SUBMIT THOSE. AGAIN. THEY WOULD JUST BE INFORMATIONAL ONLY. WE CANNOT, REQUIRE THAT THEY HAVE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF BUILDING MATERIALS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO. OKAY. THANKS. YEAH LET'S TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC, YEAH. SO A LOT OF THE CONCERNS WERE TRAFFIC. AND WHEN WOULD A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS BE DON? HOW DO YOU TIME THAT. WHAT WHAT DO YOU LOOK AT. THAT'S THAT'S WHERE YOU THAT'S WHAT YOU DO. SO WALK US THROUGH SOME OF THE TRAFFIC QUESTIONS YOU HEARD TONIGHT. YEAH THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST FOR THE RECORD, MATT RICHARDSON, I'M ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING FOR THE CITY. SO, WHEN WE'RE AT THE STAGE RIGHT NOW WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A SET SITE PLAN YET, THERE WAS REALLY NOT ANYTHING TO DO A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS OFF OF, THE, THE C ONE ZONING DISTRICT THAT WE ARE WE ARE TECHNICALLY DISCUSSING TONIGHT HAS A WIDE RANGE OF TRAFFIC VOLUMES THAT, THAT THAT, THAT ULTIMATELY COULD RESULT FROM, FROM WHAT'S ALLOWED UNDER THE C ONE ZONING, AS A CONDITION OF STAFF'S APPROVAL OF ANY FUTURE SITE PLAN ON THIS PROPERTY, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT GENERATES A LARGE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC, THERE WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT FOR A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS TO BE SUBMITTED. IT WOULD BE REVIEWED BY THE CITY'S TRAFFIC ENGINEERING STAFF, AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT STUDY AND, AND, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT STUDY AND EVALUATE IF THERE WERE EITHER, ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED IN THE VICINITY OF THE PROPERTY, IF THERE IS NEED FOR, ADDITIONAL STRIPING ON ROADWAY, IF THERE IS A NEED FOR PARKING REGULATIONS, PERHAPS IN THE VICINITY OF A PROJECT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE LOOKED AT ONCE, THAT SITE PLAN IS SUBMITTED, AND

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IF YOU ARE ALONG A CREEK, YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THOSE SAME STANDARDS. AND YOU'RE SAYING WITH DEVELOPMENT OF THAT, THEY MIGHT HAVE TO DEVELOP A RETENTION OR DETENTION POND ALSO, THAT MIGHT TAKE UP MORE PROPERTY, THAT'S. IT'S A POSSIBILITY. THERE ARE WAYS TO GET TO GET OUT OF THAT. IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE SIZE OF THE OVERALL CREEK BASIN. SO THERE ARE SOME WAIVERS ON THAT THAT WE HAVEN'T LOOKED TO SEE IF THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR THE FOR THE DETENTION POND WAIVERS OR NOT. OTHER QUESTIONS OF MATT. OKAY, JAKE. ONE FOR YOU, THERE'S A REFERENCE IN THE STAFF REPORT OF WHAT THE PROPOSED REZONE WOULD ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO REGARDING REMOVAL OF TREES. YES. CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THAT AGAIN, PLEASE? YEAH. SO, WITHIN, ANY BOUNDS OF THE FLOODPLAIN, THE APPLICANT IS ONLY PERMITTED TO REMOVE UP TO 30% OF THE TREES. IF THERE ARE ANY TREES IN WITH THE DEVELOPABLE AREA THAT THEY'RE PLANNING EITHER PART OF THEIR BUILDING GOING ON, DRIVE AISLES, PARKING, ANYTHING RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT, THEN THEY ARE ABLE TO REMOVE THOSE AGAIN, THAT'S GOT TO BE OUTSIDE OF THE FLOODPLAIN THOUGH, SO THEY CAN ONLY REMOVE UP TO 30% WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN ITSELF.

AND UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING, WHAT ARE WHAT'S THE APPLICANT ALLOWED TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING? OKAY. YEP. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF FOR THE APPLICANT. THE ENVIRONMENT IMPACT WAS BROUGHT UP, WOULD THAT BE A PART OF AGAIN THE SITE PLAN? NOT CERTAINLY NOT THE ZONING. RIGHT SO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY REALLY DOES NOT HAVE ANY REGULATIONS THAT GO INTO ANY, ANY, ANY KIND OF, PERMITTING OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. OTHER QUESTIONS.

MOTIONS COMMENTS. JUST AS, JUST AS WAY OF DISCUSSION. I DON'T KNOW IF STONEBROOK CROSSING HAS AN HOA OR NOT. IT DOES. OKAY SO, I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED THAT THE APPLICANT AND THE HOA HAVE NEVER KIND OF SIT DOWN IN THE SAME ROOM AND DISCUSS, OKAY, OKAY. AND I GUESS MY OTHER PART OF THE

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MR. LEBEAU DENY THE MOTION FOR THE APPLICANT REQUEST. SECOND. SECOND BY MR. WHATLEY, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MR. LEBEAU, I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK THE BUILDING IS TOO LARGE FOR THE SITE. AND BASED ON WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE STAFF AND OTHER INPUT WE'VE HAD TONIGHT FOR THE LAST THREE HOURS, TWO HOURS AT 58 MINUTES. IT'S JUST TOO BIG OF A BUILDING FOR THE SITE. THAT'S MY POSITION. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY THE REQUEST FOR THE APPLICANT. AND, BY MR. LEBEAU, SECOND, BY MR. WHATLEY. ANY DISCUSSION, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THE MOTION OF SIX IN FAVOR AND SIX ZERO. THE MOTION PASSES. THE ITEM WILL BE SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL. FOR AUGUST 6TH, 2024. AUGUST 6TH, 2023. I DO JUST, THE NEXT ITEM I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FROM P AND Z BEING DENIAL, IT WILL REQUIRE A SUPERMAJORITY FOR APPROVAL BY THE COUNCIL. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

THAT I'M SORRY, I WAS JUST NOTING WHEN P AND Z RECOMMENDS DENIAL BEFORE A REZONING REQUEST GOES TO THE COUNCIL, IT THEN REQUIRES A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE BY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. 20% OF THE PETITIONS YES. HEY JENNIFER, CAN WE TAKE THIS OUTSIDE? SO WE CAN MOVE ON? WE HAVE SOMEONE. THAT'S

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” Planned Development District to “C2” - Local Commercial District, Located at the Southeast Corner of McKinney Ranch Parkway and South Lake Forest Drive]

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IT'S BEEN A NIGHT. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSION. CLAY. CHRISTIE. CLAYMORE ENGINEERING, 1903 CENTRAL DRIVE. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, WE'VE WORKED WITH STUART ON THIS, AND CAITLIN AS WELL, TRYING TO DEVELOP THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND SO WE'RE HERE ESSENTIALLY JUST TRYING TO REZONE THIS TO THE STANDARD ZONING THAT WE CAN, AS CAITLIN MENTIONED, KIND OF DEVELOP IT MORE IN A MODERNIZED WAY, WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I'LL KEEP IT KIND OF SHORT THIS EVENING. WHAT IS THE INTENTION OF THE PROPOSED USE FOR THIS TRACK? YES. YES, MA'AM.

SO WE HAVE A COUPLE DIFFERENT USES. ONE OF THE USES THAT WE WILL HAVE THAT WILL COME BACK TO YOU GUYS HERE SHORTLY, BUT, ALONG LAKE FOREST DRIVE, WE HAVE TWO RETAIL BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED ALONG THE SIDE, BACK IN THE BACK CORNER, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE OF A LARGER ANCHOR THAT WILL BE PRESENTING THAT WE HAVE UNDER SITE PLAN FOR A GYM, USE THAT. WE HAVE RIGHT THERE, CURRENTLY WITH THIS PD, IT DOES ALLOW SOME, SOME USES THERE THAT ARE ALLOWED KIND OF MORE IN THE PROTOTYPICAL C3, WE ARE GOING TO BE GOING DOWN OBVIOUSLY TO THE C2. SO THERE'S, WE'RE WORKING TO POTENTIALLY BRING IN SUP FOR ONE OF THE SITES ALONG MCKINNEY RANCH THAT WILL PRESENT TO YOU GUYS HERE SHORTLY. BUT, REGARDLESS OF THE RESULT OF THAT SUP, IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THIS LOT, WE'VE GOT TO MOVE THAT TO THE C2 ZONING, IT REALLY MAINLY HAS TO DO WITH LOT WIDTH, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. THE CURRENT REC RESTRICTS THE LOT WIDTH. SORRY, STUART AND CAITLIN CORRECT ME, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S LIKE 115FT WIDE IS ALL THAT IT IS. SO THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY GIVE YOU KIND OF LONG SHOTGUN DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS. AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT HERE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO PUT LARGER, WIDER RETAIL BUILDINGS. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE BACK CORNER IN THAT BACK POCKET THERE, YOU KIND OF NEED AN ANCHOR TO TRY TO TRY TO KEEP THAT. AND SO THAT'S THE MAIN REASON IS TRYING TO INCREASE THAT LOT WIDTH SO THAT WE CAN THE LOT WIDTHS ARE THAT'S JUST THE PAD SIDES. THERE YES MA'AM. THAT'S THE TOTAL WIDTH OF THE LOT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ONLY HAVE 115FT, YOU ESSENTIALLY HAVE ROOM FOR ONE ROW OF DRIVE THROUGH, YOU KNOW, PARKING AND THEN ABOUT A 40 50 FOOT BUILDING, WHICH IS GOING TO BE TYPICALLY MORE OF LIKE QSR TYPE STUFF. OTHER QUESTIONS. MR. CHRISTIE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. NO PROBLEM. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. IF YOU COME TONIGHT AND YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS PLANNING AND ZONING REGARDING THIS PROPOSED REZONE, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. LEBEAU TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. SECOND BY, MR. BUCKNER, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON CLOSED CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. NOW'S THAT MOTION. CARRIES THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED, AND WE HAVE DISCUSSION OR MOTIONS.

DO WE HAVE ANY MOTIONS? MY COMPUTER WENT TO SLEEP. YEAH. OH THROWING THESE SOFTBALLS IN THE OVER THE MIDDLE OF THE PLATE. OKAY, I MOVE THAT WE PASS. AGENDA ITEM 24 00557. I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. WHATLEY TO APPROV. ITEM 24-0055ZCZI SECOND, SECOND BY GINA. MISS HAMRICK. ANY

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