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IT'S 6:01 PM WELCOME TO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF TUESDAY, OCTOBER 8TH, 2024.THE COMMISSIONERS YOU CCED BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING HAVE BEEN APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
SOME ITEMS HEARD TONIGHT WILL ONLY WILL BE HEARD ONLY BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND OTHERS WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT.
WE ADVISE THE AUDIENCE IF THE CASE WILL GO TO CITY COUNCIL OR IF IT'LL ONLY BE HEARD BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING.
COMMISSIONER, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE COMPLETE A SPEAKER CARD AND TURN IT IN TO A STAFF MEMBER PRIOR TO THE AGENDA ITEM BEING CALLED, WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN TO SPEAK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
PLEASE LIMIT YOUR REMARKS TO THREE MINUTES.
YOU MAY ONLY SPEAK ONE TIME ON EACH AGENDA ITEM.
THE COMMISSIONERS REQUEST THAT WE ALL TREAT EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT.
FOCUS ON THE ISSUES AND BE CONCISE WITH YOUR COMMENTS.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ANYBODY THAT WOULD WISH TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ASSOCIATED WITH IT, SUCH AS OUR MINUTES OR INFORMATION SHARING? ALRIGHT, THEN I
[ELECTION OF THE CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR]
WILL MOVE TO THE ELECTION OF THE CHAIR.UH, I'D LIKE TO CALL FOR THE ELECTION OF THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR AT THIS TIME.
DO I HAVE ANY MOTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? I WANT TO NOMINATE BILL COX, SECOND CHAIRMAN.
I ADD, UH, COMMISSIONER LEBO WITH THE MOTION AND THEN I ADD A SECOND OVER HERE.
WE WILL TAKE THE VOTE NOW IN A MOTION OF SEVEN TO ZERO.
CHAIRMAN COX HAS BEEN REELECTED.
UM, THIS IS A ROLE THAT'S NOT TAKEN LIGHTLY.
OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO ELECT A VICE CHAIR OF PLANNING AND ZONING.
DO WE HAVE ANY MOTIONS? MOTION FOR STEVE LEBO TO A MOTION FOR MR. LEBO? HE'S YOU ABOUT TO GET HIM TRAINED.
A MOTION PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
UH, THAT MOTION CARRIES ABOVE SIX.
[Director’s Report]
MOVING ON.OUR FIRST, UM, NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS ITEM TWO FOUR DASH 2 0 5 3.
JENNIFER ARNOLD, ARE YOU GIVING THE REPORT? THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
UH, JENNIFER ARNOLD, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
UM, WE TRY TO GET, UM, A QUARTERLY REPORT TO THE COMMISSION ON ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED BY THIS BOARD AND THEN FORWARDED ON TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION.
UH, SO WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS A SUMMARY OF, UM, ACTIVITY THAT'S OCCURRED BETWEEN JANUARY AND SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
UM, MOST OF THAT REPORT IS, UH, FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
I DO WANNA NOTE THAT THERE WAS ONE PROJECT, WHICH WAS THAT, UM, REZONING REQUEST ON BOAR JUST SOUTH OF HARDIN, UM, FROM A C TWO TO A C3 ZONING, UH, THAT ULTIMATELY WAS DENIED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, BACK IN, I BELIEVE IT WAS AUGUST.
UM, I DON'T HAVE THE REPORT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT, UM, OTHERWISE THE REST OF THE CASES THAT WERE CONSIDERED BEFORE THE P AND Z AND WENT ON TO COUNCIL, UM, WENT FORWARD WITH PRETTY, UH, SMALL AMOUNT OF FANFARE.
SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
JENNIFER, THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT AND THE STAFF OR WHOEVER PUTS THIS TOGETHER, THIS IS GREAT INFORMATION AND LETS US SEE HOW THINGS HAVE PROGRESSED ONCE THEY LEAVE PLAYING IN ZONING, SOMETIMES WE LOSE SIGHT OF, OF THE, WHAT WE DO AND WE DO.
WE APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
[CONSENT ITEMS]
NEXT ITEM WOULD BE OUR CONSENT AGENDA.UH, THIS WOULD BE ITEM TWO FOUR DASH 2 0 5 FOR THE MINUTES OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING.
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SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2024 MEMBERS, QUESTIONS, CHANGES OR MOTIONS.MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
ON THE SEPTEMBER 24TH MEETING, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. WOODER TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE LAST PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? CAITLYN? YOU GOT THAT? VERY GOOD.
PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE AS THAT MOTION CARRIES.
THE CONSENT AGENDA HAS BEEN APPROVED.
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “BN” - Neighborhood Business District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to Modify the Development Standards and to Allow for Warehouse and Commercial Uses, Located at 100 East Leland Avenue]
UH, WE'LL NOW GET INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE.FIRST ITEM IS TWO FOUR DASH 0 5 7 Z TWO.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A REQUEST TO REZONE A PROPERTY FROM NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS TO PD TO ALLOW, UH, TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT OF STANDARDS AND TO ALLOW FOR WAREHOUSE AND COMMERCIAL USES.
THIS IS 100 EAST LELAND AVENUE CAMERON.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY.
COMMISSIONERS, UH, MY NAME'S CAMERON CHRISTIE, PLAINTIFF FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY.
AND WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, LET'S DIVE INTO THIS REQUEST.
UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF TENNESSEE AND LELAND, UM, NOT QUITE AT THE CORNER, THERE'S A RESTAURANT LOCATED HERE, BUT, UM, ALONG KENTUCKY.
THIS ONE OVER HERE ON THE EAST IS, UH, CURRENTLY FUNCTIONING AS A MINOR VEHICLE REPAIR SHOP, AND THE OTHER UNIT IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THIS SITE FROM BN NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS TO PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
NOW, THE KEY CHANGE THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING IN THIS ZONING CHANGE IS THE ADDITION OF WAREHOUSE AS AN ALLOWED USE AT THE SITE.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS REPRESENTING HUTCHINS BARBECUE, WHICH IS SITUATED RIGHT ACROSS LELAND UP HERE.
UM, THEIR INTENT IS TO UTILIZE THE CURRENTLY VACANT UNIT AS DRY GOOD STORAGE, GO BACK TO THE AERIAL.
UH, THE AREA IS DESIGNATED HISTORIC TOWN CENTER MIX IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, THIS PLACE TYPE IS GENERALLY INTENDED TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF MIXED USE AND LOW INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USES, UH, THAT HAVE A MORE URBAN CHARACTER.
THE INTENTION IS GENERALLY TO CREATE A MORE GENTLE TRADITION, EXCUSE ME, TRANSITION FROM THE MORE INTENSE USES OF THE DOWNTOWN CORE OUT TO THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO A GOOD MIX OF THOSE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES.
WAREHOUSING IS A USE THAT IS ONLY ALLOWED IN OUR INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.
THE TOWN CENTER MIX PLACE TYPE, UH, IS NOT INTENDED TO SUPPORT INDUSTRIAL USES OR ZONING.
WHILE STAFF DOES UNDERSTAND THE CURRENT PROPOSED USER AND THEIR INTENT FOR THE SITE, WE DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT POTENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE IN THE FUTURE WITH WAREHOUSING BEING PERMITTED, THE USE WOULD BE PERMITTED.
SITEWIDE NOT JUST IN THE VACANT UNIT, IS THEREFORE STAFF'S PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE, UH, DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE SITE'S LOCATION SO CLOSE TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
UH, ALONG THE WESTERN FLANK, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THE PROPOSED REZONE.
AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
AND I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
SO ANY BUSINESS HAS STORAGE ITEMS, SO WHY CAN'T THEY JUST, UH, OCCUPY THIS SPACE AND STORE WHAT THEY NEED WITHOUT REZONING? IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THEY WOULD NEED TO, IF YOU ARE OPERATING A BUSINESS, UM, OR A COMMERCIAL USE, YOU WOULD NEED A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
UM, AND SO WHEN THEY WOULD COME FORWARD FOR THAT CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY TO BE UTILIZING THIS SPACE, WE'D THEN ASK, WHAT IS YOUR INTENDED USE THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THEY WOULD DO, AND WE DID EXAMINE LIKE IF ANY OTHER USE COULD FIT.
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THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS WAREHOUSING BY DEFINITION AS DESCRIBED IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.AND BECAUSE IT IS THAT STORAGE USE IS WAREHOUSING, AND WAREHOUSING IS AN INDUSTRIAL USE, UM, IT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN THE CURRENT ZONING AND WE WOULD ARE NOT, UM, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REZONE TO ALLOW IT.
COMMISSIONER VER LIBO, UM, THE BIGGEST DISTINCTION HERE IS THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY SEPARATED BY A STREET.
SO YOU'VE GOT LELAND ROAD AND BECAUSE THIS IS A SEPARATE PARCEL FROM THE PRIMARY USE OF THE RESTAURANT, IT IS CONSIDERED INDEPENDENT.
UM, IF THERE IS STOR, ANY RESTAURANT IN ANY RETAIL OR OFFICE SPACE IS LIKELY TO HAVE, UM, STORAGE NEEDS.
IF THOSE ARE ALL CONTAINED UNDER THE SAME ROOF, IT'S A NON-ISSUE.
BUT BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT INTRODUCING A STANDALONE USE ON A STANDALONE PARCEL, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT INDEPENDENTLY.
NOW, IF THEY HAD SOME OTHER FUNCTION THAT QUALIFIED UNDER BN, THEN THEY COULD DO IT.
DELIVERED OUT OF THERE OR NOT DELIVERED, BUT THAT'S CORRECT.
I MEAN, WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR, UH, THE, THE PRIMARY FUNCTION TO BE THAT ALLOWED USE, BUT YES, WE RECOGNIZE THAT OFFICE, RESTAURANT, RETAIL, UM, ALL HAVE SOME LEVEL OF STORAGE SPACE THAT'S REQUIRED.
IF THEY CAME UP WITH SOME OTHER FUNCTION THAT FELL INTO CATEGORY, THEY COULD STORE ALL THEY WANTED TO.
A QUESTION REGARDING, UH, THE STRUCTURE ITSELF.
SO WITH THE WAREHOUSING, ARE THERE LIMITS ON HEIGHT THAT WOULD BE IMPOSED? UH, IT WOULD BE THE SAME LIMIT AS, UM, ANY OTHER BUILDING IN THE ZONE, WHICH FOR BNI BELIEVE AS 35 FEET.
UH, SO YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT THIS, THIS CHANGE, THIS ONLY CHANGE WOULD BE APPLIED, UH, TO OTHER PROPERTIES.
IS IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT I HEARD? I READ THAT CORRECTLY, YES.
UM, NOT OTHER PROPERTIES, RATHER.
I WAS JUST CLARIFYING THAT IF YOU WERE TO RE, IF SOMEONE WAS TO IN THE FUTURE REDEVELOP THIS SITE, UM, IT WOULD APPLY TO THAT ENTIRE SITE.
AND THAT SITE AS A WHOLE CURRENTLY HOUSES TWO UNITS.
UM, SO IF THEY WERE TO 10, 20 YEARS DOWN THE LINE, SOMEONE COMES IN TO REDEVELOP, THEY COULD UTILIZE THE SITE IN ITS ENTIRETY, UM, FOR WAREHOUSING PERMITTED BY.
SO, SO ARE THEY TRYING TO USE BOTH BUILDINGS FOR STORAGE OR, OR WOULD THE REPAIR SHOP REMAIN? UH, THE CURRENT ATTENTION IS FOR THE REPAIR SHOP TO REMAIN.
UM, THE CONCERN IS NOT AS MUCH THE, UH, INTENDED USE, IT IS THE POTENTIAL FOR, UH, OTHER USES IN THE FUTURE THAT, UH, THIS ZONING CHANGE WOULD FACILITATE.
SO, UM, KIND OF HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A TENANT IN, I GUESS 100 A YES, SIR.
UH, DOES HUTCHINS OWN THAT PROPERTY? BECAUSE I'M, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THERE YOU CAN BE IN THE, THERE YOU GO.
I DON'T KNOW DAVID'S LAST NAME, BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET, IF YOU WANT TO COME ON UP.
CAMERON, DO YOU HAVE, HEY CAMERON, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO PRESENT? NO.
I LIVE AT 5 74 COUNTY ROAD, 48 50 LEONARD, TEXAS.
AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF HUTCHINS BARBECUE.
UM, I, I THREATENED CAMERON WITH A BOO AND A HISS, BUT WE WORKED CLOSELY TOGETHER ON THIS AND, AND EVERYBODY'S BEEN GOOD.
THE, THE FOLKS THAT OWN THIS BUILDING ALSO OWN THE PROPERTY WHERE HUTCHINS BARBECUE IS AT.
THAT'S ALL LEASED PROPERTY AND THEY'RE OUT OF PLANO.
AND SO THEY HAVE THIS EMPTY BUILDING.
IT'S BEEN EMPTY FOR THE LONGEST OF TIMES.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE NOTICED, BUT HUTCHINS BARBECUE IS KIND OF BURSTING AT THE SEAMS. WE HAVE ADDED EVERY INCH OF BUILDING AND PARKING THAT THE SITE WILL ALLOW AND, UM, MAYBE, UH, A HAIR MORE.
AND SO THEY'VE RUN INTO A PROBLEM OF JUST STORING THEIR DRY GOODS, THEIR PAPER PLATES, THEIR FORKS, THEIR KNIVES, THEIR SALT, THEIR PEPPER, THEIR SHIRTS, THEIR, THEIR LITTLE SAUCES AND EVERYTHING THEY USE BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO BRING FOOD INTO THE BUILDING AND KEEP IT THERE OTHER THAN DRY GOODS.
AND SO THIS SPACE HAS BEEN SITTING HERE EMPTY FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
AND, UM, THEY, THEY, THEY'VE INQUIRED ABOUT USING IT AND UM, IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
THEY'RE NOT ASKING TO ADD ANY PARKING, ANYTHING.
ALL THEY WANNA DO IS BE ABLE TO WALK ACROSS THE STREET, GO THROUGH THAT DOOR, GET THEIR DRY GOODS, AND GO BACK OVER TO HUTCHINS BARBECUE INSTEAD OF STORING IT ABOUT EIGHT MILES OVER IN PRINCETON.
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AND IF Y'ALL HAVE DRIVEN TO PRINCETON LATELY, THAT'S ABOUT A TWO HOUR TURNAROUND.SO HUTCHINS HAS BEEN GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THE COMMUNITY'S BEEN GOOD TO HUTCHINS.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE INVOLVED IN GIVING BACK TO THE FIRST RESPONDERS AND THE CITY AND THE SAMARITAN INN.
AND, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ASKING FOR A LITTLE GRACE HERE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A PD AND THAT MAYBE IN THE FUTURE SOMEBODY COULD USE IT FOR SOMETHING, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THIS CITY WOULD FIGHT IT DOWN AND, AND, AND THAT SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME OF GETTING TO WHERE IT'S GONNA GO.
THIS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT LOOKING TO CHANGE A WINDOW, A BLOCK, A ROCK OR ANYTHING, THEY JUST WANT TO USE THE INSIDE TO STORE THEIR GOODS.
UM, SO WE'RE, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF GRACE HERE AND, AND, UM, TO, TO NOT FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION IN THIS CASE AND TO ALLOW HUTCHINS TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS FACILITY AND, UM, CONTINUE TO GROW AND BE A LIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S EATEN THERE LATELY, BUT IT'S STILL GOOD.
SO,
UM, SO THE AUTO REPAIR THAT'S THERE, IS THAT A LEGALLY CONFORMING USE RIGHT NOW? OR IS IT A GRANDFATHER NON-CONFORMING USE OR IT IT'S THE LATTER.
IT'S, UH, LEGAL NON-CONFORMING.
UM, ONE OTHER ASPECT OF THE REZONE WOULD BE, UM, ALLOWING MINOR AUTO REPAIR WITH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
SO THERE WOULD BE THE OPTION FOR THIS BUSINESS TO BECOME LEGAL CONFORMING SHOULD THEY PURSUE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND IF IT WAS APPROVED.
UM, BUT CURRENTLY, YES, IT IS LEGAL, NONCONFORMING, NONCONFORMING.
WOULD THE PD ALLOW THEM TO EXPAND THEIR AUTO REPAIR AND MAKE IT, UM, I GUESS MORE, UM, UH, MORE THAN JUST A MINOR AUTO REPAIR? UM, NO, IT WOULD NOT.
UM, THE SITE PLAN COULD POTENTIALLY CHANGE IF THEY DID HAVE THAT SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, BUT THERE'S NO, UH, STATED INTENT TO DO.
SO THEY COULDN'T TURN IT INTO LIKE A PAINT SHOP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO.
CAMERON, CAMERON, AS IT STANDS NOW, WHAT ARE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS THERE? SO THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE CURRENTLY THE, UM, STANDARD, UH, BN PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR, UM, BOTH THE MI MINOR AUTO REPAIR AND THEN THE PARK.
THE REQUIREMENT FOR WAREHOUSING, UM, THAT WOULD COME OUT, UH, WHEN YOU DO THE CALCULATIONS FOR THE WAREHOUSING USE, IT WOULD END UP BEING ONE SPACE.
UM, WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH ENGINEERING, THERE'S CURRENTLY AN EXISTING, UM, PARKING SPOT THAT COMES RIGHT OFF THE STREET OF LELAND.
UM, GIVEN THAT IT IT'S EXISTING, IT WOULDN'T, UM, IT WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED UNDER OUR CURRENT, UH, ZONING CODE.
BUT BECAUSE IT'S AN EXISTING SITE, UM, AND THEY'RE NOT REDEVELOPING, THEY'RE JUST GETTING A, UH, SIMPLE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY TO CHANGE TENANTS, UM, WE WOULD BE OKAY WITH THEM UTILIZING THAT, UM, IMMEDIATE OFF STREET PARKING ON LELAND.
JOHN, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU HEARD ME TALKING EARLIER ABOUT IS THERE ANY OTHER FUNCTION THAT YOU CAN POSSIBLY PUT IN THERE THAT WOULD QUALIFY UNDER THE BN THAT'S ALREADY THERE? 'CAUSE WE ALL WANT TO HELP YOU AND NO, WE ALL WANNA GIVE YOU GRACE, BUT WE CAN ONLY DO WHAT WE CAN DO.
I, I WOULD HAVE TO EXPLORE THOSE OPTIONS.
THIS SEEMED TO BE, I HATE TO SAY THE EASIEST, BUT THE EASIEST TO, TO COME AND ASK FOR WAREHOUSE SPACE.
'CAUSE THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T WANT TO GO INSIDE AND, AND MAKE ANOTHER BUSINESS OR START, START ANYTHING ELSE.
THEY JUST TRULY WANNA BE ABLE TO PUT SOME SHELVES IN THERE AND STORE STUFF AND, UM, AND CALL IT GOOD.
UM, I, I'M GONNA ASSUME, I MEAN, WITHOUT TALKING TO KAITLYN AND, AND CAMERON AND, AND NOT TAKING UP Y'ALL'S TIME, I MEAN, I COULD EXPLORE SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT WE, WE KIND OF EXPLORED IT BEFORE WE EVER STARTED TRYING TO GET TO WHERE WE WERE GOING.
AND THIS SEEMED LIKE THE BEST CASE.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S A PD OBVIOUSLY IT HAS ISSUES.
IT COULD HAVE 20 IMPLICATIONS 20 YEARS FROM NOW, BUT BY THEN THE ZONING WOULD PROBABLY BE THAT THE SPACE IS NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR ANYTHING THEY WANTED TO DO FOR A WAREHOUSE.
I MEAN, I'M JUST MAKING LIGHT OF IT RIGHT NOW.
BUT, UM, WE, WE, WE DID EXPLORE IT, SIR.
AND, AND, AND THIS WAS WHERE WE'RE AT.
WE'RE JUST, WE'RE WE'RE TRYING, WE'RE
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TRYING TO GET, HELP THEM OUT SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE TO PRINCETON EVERY DAY AND, AND LOAD UP WITH THEIR GOODS.I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR, UH, CAMERON.
AND THEN MR. SHARKER, YOU CAN CHIME IN.
SO, UH, WELL FIRST OF ALL HAVE A STATEMENT.
I LOVE HUTCHINS
NOT MANY PEOPLE DON'T LOVE HUTCHINS.
AND I THINK, AND YOU HAVE TO QUESTION 'EM A LITTLE BIT IF THEY SAY THEY DON'T LIKE IT, JUST A LITTLE.
UM, AND LIKE, UH, COMMISSIONER LEBO SAID, WE'RE DEFINITELY TRYING TO FIND SOLUTIONS.
WHAT IF, I MEAN, 'CAUSE I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, HUTCHINS, YOU GUYS HAVE, YOU UTILIZE ALL OF YOUR EXISTING EXPANSION THERE.
AND CAMERON WILL ATTEST TO THAT, THE PARKING LOT AS WELL.
WHAT ABOUT IF, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD FALL UNDER THE CURRENT PD, COULD THEY DO A HUTCHINS TO GO WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE FOOD, BUT PERHAPS THAT'S WHERE THEY UTILIZE, UH, THEIR CATERING BUSINESS AND YOU'VE GOT PARKING PEOPLE COULD COME UP AND THEN COULD THEY HAVE THEIR STORAGE THERE? THAT WAS AN OPTION VERY SIMILAR TO THAT WAS, UM, EXPLORED DURING THE PROCESS.
UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE ISSUES WITH IT.
ONE IS THE PARKING, UM, THERE, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO JUST GET THAT ONE, UH, SPOT WITH, UH, THE WAREHOUSE USE.
BUT IF YOU WERE TO DO SOMETHING IN THE VEIN OF SAY, OFFICE SHOWROOM WAREHOUSE, WHICH IS WHAT THAT WOULD BE, UM, NOT ONLY WOULD THAT REQUIRE, UM, MORE PARKING, BUT, UM, A NEW SITE PLAN.
YEAH, IT, IT, IT IMPOSES ISSUES LIKE HAVING TO HAVE AT LEAST 50% OF THE SPACE DEDICATED TO RETAIL OR OTHER SALES SERVICES THAT MADE, THAT MADE IT NOT A TENABLE SOLUTION FOR WHAT THEY ARE ATTEMPTING TO, UM, UTILIZE THE SITE FOR.
UM, I KNOW THE PROXIMITY OF THAT BUILDING IS PERFECT, BUT HAVE YOU LOOKED AT ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S SEMI-CLOSE? THEY'VE, THEY'VE, THEY'VE EXPLORED OTHER OPTIONS.
UM, IT, IT'S A, IT'S A TIMING THING WHERE THEY, WHEN THEY RUN OUT, THEY CAN RUN OVER THERE AND GET IT.
OTHERWISE THEY HAVE TO PUT SOMEBODY IN A VEHICLE, THEY HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE, OBVIOUSLY A STORAGE FACILITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEY, THEY DO HAVE A PLACE OUT IN PRINCETON, BUT AGAIN, IT USED TO BE A 20 MINUTE RUN OUT THERE, RUN BACK, THAT'S NOW BECOME AN HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF.
AND, UM, IT'S JUST, THIS SEEMED TO BE A LOGICAL SOLUTION.
THE BUILDING WAS BEING USED FOR NOTHING.
THE ACTUAL, THE OWNER CAME TO HIM AND SAID, IF YOU NEEDED EXTRA SPACE, HE'D LEASE IT TO HIM FOR NOT MUCH MONEY, JUST, JUST TO HAVE THE USE OF THE SPACE.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE EXPLORING THAT OPTION.
AND I'M, I'M, LIKE I SAID, I'M GONNA BEG Y'ALL TO GO AGAINST STAFF EVERY NOW AND THEN.
IT, IT, IT, IT'S NICE TO SEE, JUST SO Y'ALL KNOW,
SO I, UM, BUT AGAIN, IIII MEAN THEY, THEY WERE GREAT.
WE, WE, WE EXPLORED A LOT OF OPTIONS.
CAMERON HAS SPENT PROBABLY WAY MORE TIME ON THIS THAN HE SHOULD HAVE.
'CAUSE IT'S A PRETTY SMALL PROJECT AND, UM, BEEN MORE THAN HELPFUL.
KAITLYN WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF IT AT THE START.
AND, UM, AND, AND SO I, WE, WE JUST PUSHED THE OPTIONS AND I KNOW THEY'RE UP AGAINST THE WALL BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE HAVING TO LOOK AT THE LONG TERM AND, AND OF COURSE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SHORT TERM, HOPEFULLY IN 20 YEARS, HUTCHINS BARBECUE STILL RIGHT THERE.
AND, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE STILL USING THIS SPACE FOR THEIR DRY GOODS IS WHAT WE'RE HOPING.
I JUST WISH THEY WOULD QUALIFY UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING.
UM, WHAT, LIKE I SAID, WHAT WE'RE HOPING IS THAT MAYBE Y'ALL BUCK STAFF A LITTLE BIT AND WE CAN GET TO COUNCIL AND, AND GET APPROVAL AND, AND LET THEM GET THEIR ONE PARKING SPOT AND, AND MOVE ON DOWN THE ROAD.
OH, IS IS THERE A WAY THAT'S YOU.
UM, IS THERE A WAY TO PUT SOME TIME AND OR USE CONSTRAINTS ON THIS OR CALL IT AN ACCEPT EXCEPTION ON THIS SPECIFIC ZONING CHANGE? UM, ARE YOU REFERRING TO SOMETHING LIKE A SUNSET CLAUSE OR SOMETHING? SUNSET CLAUSE? CORRECT.
SOMETHING, SOMETHING TO CONSTRAINT FUTURE USE, WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE CONCERN.
SO, UH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T OFTEN USE SUNSET CLAUSES HERE IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY.
I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE SEEN THAT, UM, IN A ZONING PD THAT WE'VE DONE.
UH, THAT BEING SAID, IN TERMS OF LIMITATIONS AS PROPOSED, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR JUST A WAREHOUSE USE, WHICH I THINK IS ONE OF OUR PRIMARY CONCERNS.
UM, IF THERE IS A DESIRE FOR THE P AND Z TO, TO, UH, MAKE A CONSIDERATION TO MAYBE TIGHTEN THE RAINS SO THAT IT'S LIMITED STRICTLY TO DRY GOOD STORAGE ASSOCIATED, UM, WITH RETAIL OR RESTAURANT USES, SO THAT IT'S KIND OF LIMITING
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WHAT CAN BE STORED AND THE LIKELIHOOD OF IT BEING, UM, USED AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE FOR JUST GENERIC WAREHOUSE USES, UM, I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY AN AVENUE TO PURSUE.UM, I THINK MR. SHARKER SAID IT AND CAMERON SAID IT AS WELL.
UM, FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, WE, WE SHARE A LOT OF THE SAME SENTIMENTS.
IT'S A STAPLE HERE, UM, IN DOWNTOWN AND IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY.
UM, BUT OUR ROLE IS TO EVALUATE ANY REQUEST AGAINST OUR, UH, POLICY AND PLANNING DOCUMENTS AND AS PROPOSED WITH JUST THE WAREHOUSE USE.
THAT'S A DIFFICULT ONE FOR US, BUT I DEFINITELY THINK BEING ABLE TO TIGHTEN THE REINS A LITTLE BIT ON THE LIMITS OF, OF WHAT'S BEING STORED THERE DEFINITELY GOES A LONG WAY FOR CONSIDERATION.
AND JENNIFER, THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED WITHIN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AS LONG AS THE APPLICANT WAS WILLING TO AGREE TO THAT.
AND JENNIFER, ONE OTHER QUESTION.
MM-HMM,
SO I'M GONNA LOOK AT CAMERON AND KATE A LITTLE BIT AND, AND GET THEIR NOD OF APPROVAL THAT, THAT THEY'VE LOOKED AT EVERYTHING SHORT OF, YOU KNOW, CLOSING DOWN LELAND STREET AND CONSOLIDATING THE LOTS.
UM, BUT GIVEN THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION, I THINK THAT THEY'VE EXPLORED AS MUCH AS THEY CAN, INCLUDING THAT ABILITY OF GETTING SOMETHING IN THERE UNDER THE, THE CURRENT ZONING.
DID YOU SAY THAT YOU CAN LIMIT THE ITEMS THAT ARE WAREHOUSED RESTAURANT ITEMS OR YOU CAN, UM, LONG TERM FULL DISCLOSURE ENFORCEMENT OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY BEING STORED CAN BE DIFFICULT.
UM, BUT USUALLY ENFORCEMENT COMES FROM A COMPLAINT BASED.
SO, UM, WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO SEE AND WHAT WE GET COMPLAINTS ON.
UM, AND WE ALWAYS WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS, UM, AND ANTICIPATE AND EXPECT THAT THEY'RE ALL BEING HONORABLE WITH WHAT THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE DOING AND STORING.
AND, UM, WE WORK AROUND IF THERE'S A COMPLAINT AT, AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, SAY THEY START STORING THINGS THAT THEY DIDN'T PUT IN THEIR ZONING, WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO EXPLORE IT.
QUESTIONS I HAVE ONE, I GOT ONE MORE QUESTION FOR STAFF AND JUST, UH, SITTING HERE AND LOOKING AT THE AREA, UM, THE CARS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT BUILDING.
MM-HMM,
WELL, THE ZONING REQUEST IS TO REZONE 100 LELAND STREET THE ENTIRE YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THAT ENTIRE LOT IS 0.37 OF AN ACRE? YES, APPROXIMATELY.
IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT 0.37 OF THE ACRE ALSO GOES OUT INTO THE CENTER LINE OF ROADWAYS.
JUST TO CLARIFY, IS THAT ACCURATE? YEAH, TO LELAND'S ACTUALLY, AND LESS IT'S, IT'S A BIT SMALLER.
YEAH, THE PROPERTY LINE GOES TO THE MIDDLE OF LELAND AND KENTUCKY.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE PROPOSED REZONE IS WITH.
THE DEVELOPABLE PART IS MUCH LESS THAN THAT.
IT'S, AND I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
IT'S NOT PICTURED HERE, BUT ON THE UM, OTHER SIDE OF TENNESSEE THAT'S NOT PICTURED, ISN'T THERE SOME WAREHOUSE OVER THERE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE? CURRENTLY? UM, THE SITE IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
UM, ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, YES.
UH, AS FAR AS I KNOW, I KNOW IT IS, IT IS DE ZONED ML UH, LIGHT MANUFACTURING.
SO AT THAT SITE, SOMETHING LIKE WAREHOUSING WOULD BE ALLOWED BY WRIGHT, BUT, UM, CURRENTLY THERE'S NO, UH, SIMILAR USE IN THE AREA NEARBY.
WELL, LET'S MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.
CERTAINLY CAN ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS AFTER THAT.
SO, UM, IF YOU ARE HERE TONIGHT AND WOULD LIKE TO, UH, WEIGH IN ON THIS PROPOSED PUBLIC, UM, PROPOSED REZONE, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM THAT BACKFIRED.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. LEBO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
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UH, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.THE MOTION IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AYE, ALL THAT MOTION CARRIES MY VOTE.
SEVEN IN FAVOR AND ZERO AGAINST THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
NOW WE WILL HAVE QUESTIONS OF EITHER, UH, MR. SHARKER OR CAMERON'S STAFF OR MOTIONS.
SO WHAT WERE YOU SAYING ABOUT THE AUTO REPAIR? COULD BE REZONED WAREHOUSE.
DID YOU SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT? UM, THEORETICALLY IF THE ENTIRE SUM YOU COULD UTILIZE ALL OF THE BUILDABLE AREA, UM, WITHIN OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO BUILD WAREHOUSE.
UM, THE OTHER PORTION THAT INVOLVED THE AUTO REPAIR SHOP IS THAT THIS REZONE DOES GIVE THEM THE OPTION TO, UH, REQUEST AN SUP, WHICH WOULD MAKE THEM, UM, IF APPROVED LEGAL CONFORMING, WHEREAS THEY'RE CURRENTLY LEGAL NON-CONFORMING.
AND CAMERON TO, TO EXPLORE THAT, THAT COMMENT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER IN REGARDS TO REDEVELOPMENT.
REFRESH MY MEMORY ON SETBACKS FOR AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE USE, THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PD.
SO FOR THE BUILDING ITSELF, UM, AND FOR WAREHOUSE IN GENERAL, IT WOULD JUST BE THE, UM, BASIC ZONING SETBACKS.
UH, SO THE, WHAT IS IT, 20 FEET FROM, UH, 20 FOOT FRONT SETBACK IS WHAT IS PROPOSED.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE SETBACK WOULD BE FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THINGS LIKE LOADING ZONES HAVE TO BE A BIT FURTHER AWAY, UM, FROM RESIDENTIAL, UH, LIKE BONAFIDE LOADING ZONE NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST 200 FEET AWAY WOULD REQUIRE SCREENING.
UM, SO YOU ESSENTIALLY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE A LOADING ZONE WITH AN INDUSTRIAL USE BASED ON THAT REQUIREMENT WITHOUT COMING BACK FOR SOME KIND OF JUSTIFICATION BEFORE THIS BOARD OR COUNCIL? YES, IT WOULD REQUIRE A DESIGN EXCEPTION AND THE AREA AVAILABLE TO ACTUALLY BUILD A BUILDING WHEN YOU FACTOR IN SETBACKS AND THE LIMITED AREA OF THE SITE GETS THIN DOWN QUITE A BIT, FAIR TO SAY? YES SIR.
CAMERON, WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT PARKING? LIKE IF THEY WERE, LIKE DEIDRE SAID, IF IT WAS A TO GO PICKUP OR SOMETHING OR SOMETHING, WHAT DID YOU SAY? WOULD PARKING WORK OUT? I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF SPACES ON THAT.
SO IF THEY, THE PARKING IN THE BACK DOES NOT FIT OUR CURRENT STANDARDS, UM, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO FIND, UH, IN OUR ARCHIVES OR, UM, ANY SORT OF RECORDS, A SITE PLAN FOR THE SITE ORIGINALLY.
SO IF THEY WERE TO, UM, COME IN AND TRY AND PROVE, UH, THAT THEY HAVE SUFFICIENT PARKING FOR, UM, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA JUMP IN AND SAVE CAMERON A LITTLE BIT HERE.
SO, UH, IN TERMS OF PARKING RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, UM, A VACANT SUITE AND AUTO REPAIR.
UM, ANY CHANGE IN USE, UM, THAT INCREASES THE REQUIRED PARKING WOULD REQUIRE THE SITE TO COME INTO CONFORMANCE WITH OUR PARKING STANDARDS.
SO WHILE A WAREHOUSE USE ON A PORTION OF THAT BUILDING WOULD ONLY REQUIRE ONE PARKING SPACE, UM, PER OUR TYPICAL STANDARDS TO CONVERT THAT VACANT SPACE TO A RESTAURANT CARRYOUT, WHICH IS WHAT IT WOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS THE PARKING REQUIREMENT WOULD GO UP, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT PARKING ON SITE, UM, TO THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.
UM, THAT PARKING IS NOT STRIPED, IT DOESN'T MEET THE TYPICAL STANDARDS.
SO BEING ABLE TO CAPTURE NEW REQUIRED PARKING ON SITE BEYOND THE ONE THAT'S INCLUDED WITH THAT PROPOSED WAREHOUSE USE WOULD BE VERY CHALLENGING, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE MIX IN THE ACTIVE USE OF THAT AUTO REPAIR.
UM, AND HOW MUCH PARKING THAT WOULD LIKELY REQUIRE AS WELL, THAT'S BY ALL TECHNICAL ACCOUNTS, NOT IT'S, IT'S A LEGAL NONCONFORMING SITE FEATURE RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD, UH, LIKELY GET KICKED INTO REQUIREMENTS.
UM, WHY DO YOU HAVE TO MIX IN THE AUTO REPAIR? BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME LOT, UM, AND THE SAME BUILDING.
AND SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT LOT, UM, THE, WHEN THEY COME IN AND ACTUALLY DO THEIR SITE PLAN TO DEVELOP THE LOT, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRETY OF THAT LOT.
THEY'RE NOT PLA SEPARATELY? NO, IT'S THE SAME LOT.
THERE THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY FOOD.
IT WAS MORE SO A CATERING, YOU COME AND YOU PLACE YOUR CATERING ORDER.
MAYBE LIKE, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY EVENTS THAT HAPPEN IN MCKINNEY
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IF SOMEONE'S THE AREA JUST YEAH.SO IT MIGHT LIMIT THE, THE PARKING REQUIREMENT SO IT COULD POTENTIALLY SATISFY THEM AND THEN THEY HAVE THE REST OF THE AREA THAT THEY COULD UTILIZE FOR STORAGE.
YEAH, DEFINITELY AN, AN OPTION FOR THEM.
I DON'T KNOW, UM, WHAT THE BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE IS OR THE PARKING THAT WOULD BE TRIGGERED UNDER THE OFFICE.
IT'S MORE OF THAT CATERING OFFICE.
SO FOR SURE IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE EXPLORED.
THE, UH, OFFICE WOULD BE THE ONE PER 400 SQUARE FEET.
SO WE EXPLORED THAT EARLIER WITH MR. SHIRKER.
AND THE SITE JUST DOES NOT HAVE THE AVAILABILITY TO HAVE THE ONE PER 400 CURRENTLY.
HOW BIG IS THE SPACE? THE LEASE SPACE? THE UH, THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING? OF, OF THE BUILDING AND THEN ALSO OF THE SPACE THAT HUTCHINS WOULD OCCUPY.
UM, THE ENTIRETY OF THE BUILDING IS THREE, APPROXIMATELY 3000 SQUARE FEET.
AND THE UNIT B THAT HUTCHINS IS LOOKING TO OCCUPY IS JUST A HAIR UNDER 1500.
IT'S THREE OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF.
NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
JUST, UM, DISCUSSION WHENEVER WE GET TO, ARE YOU READY? LET'S ROLL.
WELL, MY THOUGHT WOULD BE, UM, MAYBE WE COULD TABLE THIS FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S THAT PRESSING AND MAYBE WE CAN KIND OF TIGHTEN THE SCOPE ON IT AND FIND SOMETHING THAT, THAT WORKS, UH, WITHOUT CHANGING IT TO, UM, REZONING IT OR MAKING IT A PD FOR A WAREHOUSE.
UH, IF THE APPLICANT IS AGREEABLE WITH THAT, MAYBE TAILORING IT FOR, I WANNA SAY THAT THE PROXIMITY IS PERFECT FOR 'EM, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT OUR, NOT OUR ISSUE.
THE ISSUE IS THE REZONING THAT COULD HAPPEN THERE AND EXPAND, UH, WAREHOUSE USE.
SO I'D HAVE TO SAY I WOULD BE AGAINST, UH, PROVING THIS ITEM.
IT'S ALREADY WAREHOUSING ACROSS TENNESSEE AS IS.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER CONSIDERATION.
THERE'S ALL RARELY ZONING, UM, FOR WAREHOUSING ACROSS TENNESSEE.
SO IF THAT ENTIRE BLOCK ENDED UP GETTING REZONED AND WAREHOUSING WAS PERMISSIBLE, IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET ANYWAY.
BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REZONING A WHOLE BLOCK.
'CAUSE THE BLOCK WOULD GO FROM KENTUCKY UP TO UH, TENNESSEE.
IT'S JUST A HATCHED AREA CORRECT.
THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING, RIGHT? CORRECT.
JUST THE THIRD OF AN ACRE, ROUGHLY.
THE ZONING, THE, YOU'RE RIGHT.
THE QUESTION IN FRONT OF US IS ZONING THIS 0.37 OF AN ACRE.
DEED WITH THAT AT SOME POINT, MAYBE THAT SOMEONE COMES IN WITH A ZONING REQUEST FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ADJACENT TO IT'S IN THE AREA.
BUT THE QUESTION OF FOREST TONIGHT IS REZONING THAT SITE AND THE CONCERN STAFF HAS IS FUTURE USE OF THAT SITE.
AND JESSE BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT.
WHEN YOU REDUCE THE PROPERTY SIZE, REDUCE THE SETBACKS, AND, AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL SETBACK FROM RESIDENTIAL, THERE'S NOTHING LEFT TO BUILD ON THAT SITE.
THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND MEET THE REQUIREMENTS WITHOUT COMING BEFORE THIS BOARD.
AGAIN, NOT SAYING IT'S IMPOSSIBLE, BUT I THINK IT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT YOU COULD, WITHOUT MORE THAN A THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, MAYBE HAVE LIMITED WAREHOUSING USE.
BUT, UM, WITH, UH, STEVE THAT I'M KIND OF HESITANT TO APPROVE IT JUST 'CAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT COULD POSSIBLY COME IN THE FUTURE.
SO WE HAVE CONVERSATION OF, OF A TABLE WE HAVE CONVERSATION OF AGAINST, I GUESS I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR STAFF.
AND, UM, SO THIS, THIS REZONE, HAS THIS BEEN POSTED PUBLICLY ON SITE? UH, YOU MEAN HAS IT BEEN, UH, LIKE SIGNS POSTED? YES.
SO HAS THERE BEEN ANY QUESTIONS
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OR OPPOSITION TO THAT? WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY, UH, LETTERS IN SUPPORT OR AGAINST NO, UH, NO COMMUNICATION.IN RE WELL CAMERON, WHILE YOU'RE THERE, HAS THERE BEEN FURTHER DISCUSSION OR WAS THERE DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT IN REGARDS TO THE LIMITED USE FOR THE WAREHOUSE USE TO STORE DRY GOODS FOR RESTAURANT USE TO REALLY LIMIT THE, THE WAREHOUSE USE WITHIN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND GO THAT ROUTE? IS THAT SOMETHING THE APPLICANT'S OPEN TO TH THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF A SIMILAR SOLUTION.
UM, THE ISSUE THAT WE RAN INTO IS THAT WE, THAT WOULD STILL JUST BE WAREHOUSING BY ANOTHER NAME AND THE INTENTION OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS NOT TO, UM, TRY AND EVADE REGULATION.
UH, IT'S TO, UM, ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN EXCEPTIONAL OR SPECIAL, UH, KIND OF DEVELOPMENT PRODUCT.
IF IT WAS RESTRICTED, THAT'D BE GREAT, BUT IT'S HARD TO ENFORCE.
AND YOU'D HAVE TO SAY DRY GOODS.
YOU COULDN'T SAY RESTAURANT GOODS.
'CAUSE THAT COULD BE BIG EQUIPMENT, RIGHT? THE DISCUSSION'S DONE.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE PLEASURE? OKAY, WELL I, I FLOATED THE IDEA OF OF MAYBE, UH, TABLING IT FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS, BUT IF WE CAN'T, UH, SOME DETAILS TABLE IT, THEN I KNOW I'LL BE NO CHANCE.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T MAKE A MOTION.
OH, YOU DIDN'T, YOU JUST
WELL SEE THAT'S ONE OF THOSE TRICKY ONES.
UM, 'CAUSE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE, UH, DENY IT AND I'M, I'M GOING ALONG WITH STAFF THAT WE DENY THIS REQUEST.
IS THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION? THAT IS IN THE FORM OF A MOTION OBJECT TO DENY THE DENY.
WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, TO DENY THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
UH, MR. WHATLEY SECOND BY MR. LEBO.
ANY ANY MORE DISCUSSION? I DO HAVE A COMMENT IN REGARD TO STAFF'S CONCERNS THAT THIS SITE WILL POTENTIAL IN THE FUTURE BE DEVELOPED AS AN INDUSTRIAL SITE BY INTRODUCING WAREHOUSING, UH, ZONING TO THE SITE PHYSICALLY.
WHILE NOT IMPOSSIBLE, YOU CAN SEE IMPOSSIBLE FROM HERE.
IT'S REALLY A CHALLENGE TO DEVELOP THAT SITE AS AN INDUSTRIAL SITE AND VOTE.
I'M GONNA VOTE AGAINST THE MOTION.
SO ANY MORE DISCUSSION? MS. ARNOLD, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? I JUST WANTED TO, AS A MATTER OF, UM, PROCESS, THERE'S A COUPLE OF OPTIONS.
I KNOW THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT TABLING DENIAL AND, UM, APPROVAL.
UM, THERE IS ALSO AN OPTION FOR THE BOARD TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO LIMIT THE TYPE OF STORAGE, UM, ON THE SITE AS OPPOSED TO JUST TABLING SO, OR RECOMMENDING DENIAL.
UM, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT ALL THOSE OPTIONS WERE ON THE TABLE.
UM, AND I ALSO JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT YES, UNDERSTAND THE COMMENTS ABOUT, UH, THE ABILITY TO REDEVELOP AS WAREHOUSE.
UM, I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER, UM, ITEMS THAT WAS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT IS, UM, THE LA THE IMPACT OF REDEVELOPING THE ENTIRE SITE FOR HIGHER AND BETTER USE OVERALL.
SO NOT, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE IF THE AUTO REPAIR GOES OUT AND THE SECOND, THE OTHER HALF OF THAT BUILDING IS STILL BEING UTILIZED FOR WAREHOUSE, WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS TO THE OTHER SUITE AND THE ABILITY FOR THAT ENTIRE TRACK TO GET REDEVELOPED.
IT WASN'T NECESSARILY, UM, TOO MUCH ABOUT JUST BEING ABLE TO DO WAREHOUSE OVERALL, BUT ANY REDEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL.
UM, SOMEWHAT LIMITED, UM, IF THIS CONTINUES AS IT IS.
SO JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT FOR THE RECORD AND, UH, PROCEDURE IN TERMS OF MOTIONS BY THE BOARD.
SO HOW WOULD THAT PROCEDURE GO IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH LIMITATIONS ON THE ITEM? SINCE WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE AND SO WE DO HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
UM, EITHER, UH, THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE CAN BE WITHDRAWN, UM, AND A NEW MOTION CAN BE MADE.
UM, OR YOU CAN CONTINUE WITH THE VOTE BASED ON WHAT WAS THE MOTION THAT WE HAVE ON THE TABLE, DEPENDING ON WHERE THAT VOTE FOLLOWS, UM, WHETHER IT PASSES OR, WELL, I GUESS YEAH, THEY WOULD NEED TO WITHDRAW THE VOTE IF THE MOTION, IF ON THE FLOOR STAYS, WE VOTE ON THE MOTION, CORRECT? YES SIR.
UM, IF IT'S WITHDRAWN, THEN A NEW MOTION CAN BE MADE WITH THOSE CONDITIONS.
LEBO BROUGHT THIS UP ABOUT LIMITING STORAGE OF DRY GOODS.
SO WE'RE GETTING, IT'S GETTING GRAY.
CAN YOU TIGHTEN THIS UP FOR US? AND IS
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THERE AN OPTION THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO LIMIT TO STORAGE OF DRY GOODS? AND HOW IS THAT PHRASED AND HOW IS THAT ENFORCED? SO IN TERMS OF PHRASING, IF YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THAT MOTION, UH, OR WITH IN THE MOTION THAT IT'S LIMITED TO DRY GOODS, UM, WHAT WE'LL DO WITH THE APPLICANT BETWEEN NOW AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS DRAFT SOME TIGHT LANGUAGE AROUND, UM, THE DRY GOOD STORAGE AS WE'VE DISCUSSED IT HERE TONIGHT.SO THAT WHEN IT GOES BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ACTUAL ACTION, THERE WILL BE LANGUAGE INCLUDED, UM, IN THE, THE DRAFT REGULATIONS FOR THEM TO READ AND DIGEST.
UM, AND I GOT TALKING AND FORGOT YOUR SECOND QUESTION.
ANYTIME WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ENFORCEMENT OF STORAGE, WE, UNLESS WE GO ON SITE AND GO INSIDE, WE, WE WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT ALL IS BEING STORED IN THERE.
UM, AND THAT WAS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO REFER TO EARLIER.
I THINK I RAMBLED ON A LITTLE BIT.
UM, SO ENFORCEMENT TYPICALLY, UM, OF A CITY OF OUR SIZE IS COMPLAINT BASED.
UM, AND IF THE ZONING LIMITS THEIR STORAGE TO DRY GOODS ONLY, WE'RE GOING TO EXPECT THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE INCLUDING IN THERE.
AND UH, AND THAT'S ALL THAT THEY'RE STORING.
IF WE, UH, GET A COMPLAINT OR A CONCERN THAT MORE ROBUST WAREHOUSE AND STORAGE IS HAVE HAPPENING, WE WOULD OPEN A CODE CASE, GO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AND PROCEED FROM THERE.
BUT, UM, THAT ENFORCEMENT INDOORS, WE DON'T MAKE IT A HABIT TO GO INSIDE OF BUILDINGS AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
UM, IT'S TYPICALLY THAT COMPLAINT BASED, WELL FOR THAT REASON, IF WE CAN GET IT RESTRICTED TO WHAT IS STORED THERE TO BE DRY GOODS.
I WITHDRAW MY SECOND AND BECAUSE WE'VE KICKED THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD FOR 35 MINUTES, I WITHDRAW MY MOTION.
YOU'RE GONNA MAKE CAITLIN REALLY WORK ON, ON HOW TO DO THAT IN THE SYSTEM.
SO WE HAVE NO MOTION ON THE TABLE.
BEFORE WE HAVE DISCUSSION, YOU NEED TO MOVE TO THE CLOSED DISCUSSION OR I CAN MAKE THE MOTION.
WE'RE READY FOR ANOTHER MOTION.
I MOVE TO ACCEPT THIS WITH LIMITATIONS ON THE ITEMS THAT CAN BE STORED WITHIN THE ACTUAL FACILITY.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE FIRST IS, IS THERE A SECOND FOR STAFF TO WORK? YEAH, FOR STAFF TO WORK ON IT? YEAH.
IS THERE A SECOND TO, TO THAT MOTION? RIGHT.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. LABE.
JENNIFER HAVE A MOTION BY MR. LEBO TO TABLE THE ITEM.
AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR A SECOND TO THAT MOTION.
NOT THAT MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
MS. WOODARD MOTION AGAIN TO APPROVE THE ITEM, TO APPROVE THE, UM, ITEM AS NO APPROVE THE ITEM WITH LIMITATIONS ON THE ITEMS THAT CAN BE STORED WITH THEIR WITHIN THERE.
THAT STAFF WILL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO COME UP WITH PRIOR TO GOING TO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. WOODARD TO APPROVE THE ITEM WITH THE ATTACHED CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT AND INSTRUCTION FOR STAFF TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT REGARDING STORAGE OF DRY GOODS ONLY.
IS THAT IT? DRY? DRY GOODS ONLY.
WE HAVE A SECOND BY MR. WATLEY.
IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ANY MORE DISCUSSION? A MOTION BY, THERE YOU GO.
ALRIGHT, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.
MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE ITEM WITH THE ATTACHED CONDITIONS AND STORAGE OF DRY GOODS ONLY WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO STAFF TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO DETERMINE JUST EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS.
MR. FRANKLIN, THIS COMES TO YOU NEXT.
ALL THAT MOTION CARRIES MY VOTE OF SEVEN IN FAVOR AND ZERO AGAINST MR. SHARKER.
THE NEXT ITEM IS 2 4 0 0 8 6 Z.
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Properties from AG - Agricultural District and ML - Light Manufacturing District to “I1” - Light Industrial District, Located on the South side of McIntyre Road and Approximately 200 feet East of the Intersection of North McDonald Street and McIntyre Road]
DASH 0 0 8 6 Z.A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A REASONABLE A PROPERTY FROM AG AND ML DISTRICT TO L ONE.
THIS IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MCINTYRE ROAD, 200 FEET EAST OF NORTH MCDONALD STREET AND MCINTYRE ROAD.
STUART STARRY, PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY.
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THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES TO I ONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.CURRENTLY THE PROPERTIES ARE ZONED AG AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AND ML LIGHT MANUFACTURING DISTRICT.
THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY INDUSTRIAL ZONING TO THE WEST, EAST, AND SOUTH TO THE NORTH.
A SINGLE FAMILY HOME SITS ON AN AG ZONED LOT.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THIS RESIDENTIAL LOT IS LOCATED ON THE PROPOSED EXTENSION OF WILMUTH ROAD IN MCINTYRE ROAD.
THE PROPERTY IS SITUATED WITHIN THE OAK HOLLOW DISTRICT OUTLINED WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH ENVISIONS THIS AREA AS A MIX OF PROFESSIONAL AND SERVICE USES.
THE PROPOSED INDUSTRIAL REZONING ALIGNS WITH THE EMPLOYMENT MIX PLACE TYPE AND IS SIMILAR TO THE USES PERMITTED ON ADJACENT LOTS.
THE PROPERTY IS ALONG THE FUTURE EXPANSION OF WILMUTH ROAD AND WILL HAVE ACCESS TO TWO MAJOR ARTERIALS WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
GIVEN THE SITE'S CHARACTERISTICS, THE PROPOSED REZONING REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO BRING A DIVERSE MIX OF USERS DESIRING MANUFACTURING, WAREHOUSING OFFICE, AND FLEX SPACE TO THIS AREA.
ADDITIONALLY, STEPH BELIEVES THE REZONING REQUEST WILL COMPLIMENT ONE OF THE CITY'S EXPANDING INDUSTRIAL ZONES.
GIVEN, GIVEN THESE FACTORS, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED REZONE.
I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS, STEWART.
ANY QUESTIONS? HE MENTIONED THE EXTENSION OF WILMUTH TO MCINTYRE.
IS IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO DRAW IN THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THAT? UH, YEAH, I CAN TRY.
I HAVE A LOOKED AT THOSE MAPS.
SO THIS IS WILMUTH UP HERE AND IT'LL KIND OF GO SOMEWHERE LIKE THIS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? STUART? IS THAT DRAWN TO SCALE?
RIGHT INTO THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THAT BUILDING.
IS OUR APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT? SO GOOD EVENING COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS JEFF LANDON, UH, 8 0 1 CHERRY STREET IN FORT WORTH, TEXAS.
UM, ON HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT TONIGHT.
UM, APPRECIATE STAFF'S TIME AND WORKING WITH US ON THIS AND GETTING THIS, UH, READY TO GO.
UM, THINK IT'S PRETTY, UH, STRAIGHTFORWARD, REZONED TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MAY HAVE.
WHAT IS Y'ALL'S PROPOSED UH, USE THERE AT THE SITE? UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S A SPECULATIVE WAREHOUSE.
SO BASIC WAREHOUSE USE BUT CONFORMING WITH LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
OTHER QUESTIONS, JEFF? THE, THE PROPOSED SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING IS WHAT? THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.
I, WE HAVE, I DON'T THINK WE PROVIDED A SITE PLAN.
I CAN GET YOU A RESPONSE TO THAT.
ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU AND WE APPRECIATE IT.
UH, IF ANYONE'S HERE TONIGHT AND WOULD LIKE TO, YEAH.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE PENDING ZONING REGARDING THIS PROPOSED REZONE.
SEEING NONE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM 2 4 0 0 8 6 E.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. LEBO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM AS PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
ANY DISCUSSION, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
THAT MOTION CARRIES BY VOTE OF SEVEN IN FAVOR AND ZERO AGAINST THE, UH, ITEM GOES TO, TO CITY COUNCIL, UH, FOR FINAL ACTION AT THE NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024 MEETING.
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OKAY.[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on Amendments to the ONE McKinney 2040 Comprehensive Plan, Including Updates to the Future Land Use Plan, Land Use Diagrams, Placetype Definitions, Individual District Strategies, and Minor Text Updates]
UH, TWO FOUR DASH 0 0 0 3 MA PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AMENDMENTS TO THE ONE MCKINNEY 2040 COMP PLAN, INCLUDING UPDATES TO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, UH, LAND USE STEIN GRAHAM'S PLACE TYPE DEFINITIONS, INDIVIDUAL DISTRICT STRATEGIES, AND MINOR TEXT UPDATES.MS. ANGEL, WELCOME TO P AND Z.
HI, IT'S A GOOD NIGHT TO BE HERE.
UM, THANK YOU CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS HAILEY ANGEL, ONE OF THE PLANNING MANAGERS HERE AT THE CITY OF MCKINNEY.
AND TODAY I AM HERE TO SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU.
UH, AS ALWAYS, I'D LIKE TO START WITH A BRIEF REMINDER OF WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS.
UH, IT DOES OUTLINE THE COMMUNITY'S VISION OF, UH, MCKINNEY'S FUTURE, SPECIFICALLY PERTAINING TO THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY AND IN THIS CASE THROUGH THE YEAR 2040.
UH, SO I HAVE OUR VISION STATEMENT THERE ON THE LEFT.
AGAIN, IT'S, UH, CREATED THROUGH EXTENSIVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
UH, AND THAT VISION THEN HELPS INFORM DECISIONS ABOUT LAND USE, TRANSPORTATION, UTILITY, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
UM, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE DETAILS, I WANNA REMIND YOU ALL OF TWO THINGS.
UM, FIRST, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN UPDATE AND AN AMENDMENT.
SO AN UPDATE IS WHEN WE'RE REALLY CRACKING OPEN THE BOOK, WE'RE RE-LOOKING AT THE VISION.
UM, IT IS WHAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2018.
UH, AND SO THERE ARE MINOR CHANGES AND WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT, UH, REHASHING THE OVERALL VISION WITHIN IT.
UH, I ALSO LIKE TO REMIND YOU ALL THAT THIS IS NOT A ZONING CHANGE.
UM, SO WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS CHANGES TO THE FUTURE LAND USE DIAGRAM.
UH, ANY CHANGES TO THE ACTUAL ENTITLEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A ZONING CHANGE, WHICH WOULD GO BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL AS WELL.
THREE MAIN COMPONENTS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, WE START WITH OUR PREFERRED SCENARIO.
AND SO THIS DIVIDES THE CITY INTO MULTIPLE DIFFERENT DIS DISTRICTS WITH DISTINCT IDENTITIES AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS.
UH, EACH OF THESE, THERE IS A MAP ON THE SCREEN, BUT EACH OF THESE HAS A DETAILED WRITEUP ON WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE AS THOSE AREAS DEVELOP.
UM, AND AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT IS THE LAND USE DIAGRAM AND THAT'S MOSTLY WHAT WE'D BE, WILL BE LOOKING AT TONIGHT.
UH, THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN IS AN IMPORTANT PART AS WELL.
UH, THERE ARE NOT PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN TONIGHT, UM, BUT WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE THREE 80 CORRIDOR.
UH, AND SO I WANTED TO INCLUDE IT AS A REMINDER THAT IS ALSO CONTAINED WITHIN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE HAVE THREE MAIN ITEMS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
UM, I'M GOING TO MOSTLY FOCUS ON THE CHANGES AS A RESULT OF THE THREE 80 CORRIDOR.
UH, BUT WE ARE GONNA TOUCH ON SOME CHANGING TRENDS SPECIFICALLY PERTAINING TO PROFESSIONAL CENTER AS WELL AS A REMINDER THAT WE DO, UH, ROUTINE AMENDMENTS TO ENSURE THAT THE PLAN IS UP TO DATE.
A QUICK REMINDER FOR EVERYBODY, UH, ON THE THREE 80 CORRIDOR TIMELINE.
UM, SO BACK IN 2017, TXDOT DID START THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING, UH, US HIGHWAY THREE 80 AND ANY ALTERNATIVE ROUTES.
UM, THAT WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF GOING THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS.
UH, AND SO WHILE THERE WAS A LIMITED AMOUNT OF INPUT ABOUT THE THREE 80 CORRIDOR AND ITS IMPACTS ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ULTIMATELY THERE WAS NO FINAL ALIGNMENT.
UH, AND SO WE DID MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, THE ADOPTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN FALL OF 2018 ALL THE WAY
AND FALL OF 23 IS WHEN OTT DID RELEASE THEIR FINAL DECISION ON THAT ALIGNMENT.
UM, AND THAT WAS, UH, RESULTED IN THE CHANGES TO THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT WE CAME FORWARD WITH IN DECEMBER.
SO AT THAT TIME, WE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR DEVELOPERS, CITIZENS, UH, ANYBODY WANTING TO HAVE THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THAT FINAL ALIGNMENT WAS AND THE IMPACT ON OUR LOCAL SYSTEM.
WE WANTED TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE.
UH, SO WE AMENDED JUST THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN TONIGHT.
WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT ANY LAND USE CHANGES AROUND THAT AREA.
AS A QUICK REMINDER FOR EVERYONE, UM, I'VE GOT THE ALIGNMENT HERE, DASHED IN BLUE.
AND FOR BEARINGS, THIS IS THE EXISTING THREE 80 AND THIS IS US HIGHWAY 75.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IT CUTS UP TO BLOOM DALE.
AND THEN EVENTUALLY BACK DOWN AROUND NEW HOPE.
UH, FOR THIS PROCESS, WE SPECIFICALLY WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THERE WAS SOME PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AROUND ANY CHANGES THAT MAY OCCUR.
UH, AND THAT BEGAN WITH AN ONLINE SURVEY IN MAY.
AND THIS SURVEY WAS FAIRLY GENERAL.
I'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THE STATISTICS RELATED TO THAT.
UH, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO INQUIRE ABOUT WHETHER THERE WOULD BE IMPACTS TO THE IDENTITY OF THESE AREAS AND WHAT LAND USES, UM, MIGHT BE DESIRED.
WE TOOK THAT INFORMATION AND WE MADE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE FUTURE LAND USE DIAGRAM AND WE TOOK THIS PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE PUBLIC IN BOTH AN OPEN HOUSE AND AN ONLINE SURVEY.
UM, AND THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM THAT, UH, HELPED US INFORM THAT ACTUALLY WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS WHAT WE TOOK TO THE PUBLIC, UH, BACK IN JUNE.
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FEEDBACK.WE SPENT, UH, THE SUMMER AMENDING THE DOCUMENT, ANY UNDERLYING DATA THAT WE NEEDED TO UPDATE THE GRAPHICS, ENSURING THE MAPS ARE ALL ACCURATE.
UH, AND WE'RE HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY, UH, OBVIOUSLY, AND THEN WE WILL BE MOVING TO CITY COUNCIL AFTER THIS FOR THE FINAL VOTE.
SO THAT INITIAL ROUND OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, WE DID RECEIVE 242 RESPONSES ONLINE AND, UH, RESPONDENTS GENERALLY FELT LIKE THE AREAS AROUND US THREE 80 WEREN'T GOING TO CHANGE FUNDAMENTALLY AND IDENTITY.
UH, THEY DID PROVIDE FEEDBACK THAT IN TWO AREAS OF THE CITY IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE ADDITIONAL MIXED USE OR ENTERTAINMENT USES.
UH, THIS WAS BENEFICIAL TO US AS STAFF BECAUSE IT REALLY HELPED US, UH, TARGET OUR FOCUS.
AND WHEN WE REVIEWED THOSE AREAS, WE WERE IN PROFESSIONAL AGREEMENT AS WELL THAT THOSE AREAS WERE, UM, KEEN FOR OPPORTUNITY.
UH, THOSE TWO AREAS ARE THE NORTHRIDGE DISTRICT AND THE HONEY CREEK DISTRICT.
AND WE HAVE EXISTING THREE 80 CUTS THROUGH ABOUT HERE AND US HIGHWAY 75 IS APPROXIMATELY HERE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THERE IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE CITY FOCUSING IN ON NORTHRIDGE.
UM, WE LOOKED AT, YOU CAN SEE THE ALIGNMENT OF THE THREE 80 CORRIDOR THERE IN A BLUE COLOR.
AND UH, THE NORTH SOUTH ROAD HERE IS RIDGE ROAD.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE US THREE 80 CORRIDOR ALMOST CREATES THIS ISOLATED AREA, UM, BECAUSE OF THE FLOODPLAIN AND THE NEW CORRIDOR.
WHAT IS CURRENTLY SUBURBAN LIVING BECOMES ISOLATED FROM THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
UH, GIVEN THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK, WE FELT LIKE THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A REALLY UNIQUE AREA, UH, BECAUSE OF THAT EXPOSURE TO THE FLOODPLAIN AND EASY ACCESS TO THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.
UH, THE BIGGEST CHANGE THAT YOU'LL SEE IS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING MIXED USE CENTER IN THAT AREA.
UM, AND WHAT I WOULD CLARIFY IS, UH, WE DON'T NECESSARILY INTEND THIS TO BE A, A HIGH DENSITY MIXED USE CENTER.
I KNOW FOR ME IT'S EASY TO INSTANTLY THINK OF A LEGACY WEST THE SIZE OF THESE PARCELS OR ARE NOT GONNA BE CONDUCIVE TO THAT AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE APPROPRIATE WITH THE DISTRICT.
AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE MADE AN EFFORT WITHIN THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT ITSELF TO OUTLINE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A VILLAGE STYLE MIXED USE, MUCH LOWER DENSITY.
THE EXAMPLE I USE IS OLD TOWN CAPELLE.
IN THIS ONE IMAGE WE'VE GOT OFFICE, WE'VE GOT RETAIL, WE'VE GOT RESTAURANT, WE'VE GOT A PUBLIC OPEN SPACE, AND WE'VE GOT SINGLE FAMILY.
AND IT DOESN'T INHERENTLY HAVE THAT DENSITY THAT WE MIGHT ASSOCIATE WITH OTHER MIXED USE CENTERS TO COMPLIMENT THAT.
WE'VE MADE SURE THAT THE DEFINITION OF MIXED USE CENTER PLACE TYPE REFERENCES THE IMPORTANCE OF THE CONTEXT OF THE DISTRICT AND THE DISTRICT HAS ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE ABOUT THE LEVEL OF INTENSITY THAT WE WOULD EXPECT HERE.
OUR NEXT DISTRICT IS HONEY CREEK.
UM, AND YOU ALL CAN SEE THE THREE 80 CORRIDOR OUTLINED THERE.
UM, AND SO IF ANY OF YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DRIVING AROUND THIS AREA, YOU'VE LIKELY SEEN SOME WORK, UH, BEING DONE IN THE AREA THAT IS EXPERIENCING SOME CHANGE.
UM, SO THERE IS AN EXISTING, UH, FLOODPLAIN RECLAMATION PROCESS GOING ON.
SO THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, THEY'VE GONE THROUGH FEMA TO GET THAT WORK APPROVED TO PULL SOME LAND OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN.
UM, AND GIVEN THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT INCREASING THE ENTERTAINMENT USES IN THE AREA, IT WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO HIGHLIGHT A NEW AREA TO ENTER INCREASE THOSE ENTERTAINMENT CENTER USES.
UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ACTUALLY IDENTIFIES THAT THERE IS THE LIKELY GOING TO BE FLOODPLAIN RECLAMATION IN THIS AREA.
UH, SO IT WAS A NICE CASE WHERE THE EXISTING DOCUMENT, PUBLIC FEEDBACK AND PROFESSIONAL REVIEW BY STAFF ALT LINED.
SO WE SENT ALL OF THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND SAID, DID WE GET, DID WE GET IT RIGHT, DID WE GET IT CLOSE TO RIGHT? UM, AND WE HAD BOTH AN OPEN HOUSE WHERE WE HAD ABOUT 14 ATTENDEES AND THEN A FOLLOW-UP SURVEY WHERE WE RECEIVED 291 RESPONSES.
UM, AND GENERALLY EVERYBODY WAS FAVORABLE OR NEUTRAL.
UM, THE NEUTRAL WAS LIKELY BECAUSE THE SCALE OF CHANGES ENDED UP BEING MUCH SMALLER THAN WE MIGHT HAVE ANTICIPATED, UM, BUT ARE CERTAINLY APPROPRIATE GIVEN ALL THE OTHER FEEDBACK.
AND THOSE CHANGES ARE WHAT WE PUT BEFORE YOU TODAY.
ONE OF THE CHANGING TRENDS THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, UH, HAS TO DO WITH THE OFFICE MARKET AS WELL AS PROFESSIONAL CENTER.
UM, AND SO SWITCHING GEARS A LITTLE BIT INTO SOME OF OUR ROUTINE AMENDMENTS.
WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THIS CHANGING TREND SPECIFICALLY IN THE BUSINESS AND AVIATION DISTRICT, UH, KNOWING THAT SPUR 3 99 EXTENSION IS COMING, AND I'M GONNA HIGHLIGHT THAT FOR YOU IN JUST ONE SECOND IN THIS AREA.
AND THEN THIS IS EXISTING US THREE 80 JUST FOR POINT OF REFERENCE.
UH, SO KNOWING THAT THAT'S HAPPENING, WE WANTED TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THE PROFESSIONAL CENTER IN THIS AREA.
UM, OVER TIME YOU CAN SEE THAT UH, THE EXISTING PLAN CURRENTLY HAS EMPLOYMENT MIX SLOWLY FAD INTO THE PROFESSIONAL CENTER.
UM, PROFESSIONAL CENTER IS INTENDED TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING FROM YOUR TYPICAL MEDICAL OFFICE CONDO
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ALL THE WAY UP TO LARGE PROFESSIONAL CAMPUSES WITH HEADQUARTERS.UM, AND WHEN WE LOOKED INTO THE STRATEGIC DIRECTION OF THIS SECTION, IT WAS, IT WAS CLEAR THAT NOBODY WAS EXPECTING SEVEN STORY BUILDINGS IN THIS AREA, RIGHT? UM, AND SO WHAT WE REALIZED WAS THE EMPLOYMENT MIX PLAYS TYPE COULD ACCURATELY CAPTURE WHAT WE WERE EXPECTING TO BE DEVELOPED THERE WITH THE EXISTING LANGUAGE, UM, IN A WAY THAT MAYBE CAPTURED IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND A LITTLE BIT CLEARER THAN THE EXISTING PROFESSIONAL CENTER DESIGNATION.
SO WE HAVE UPDATED THE MAP TO SHOW THAT, AND WE'VE ALSO UPDATED THE LANGUAGE WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO STILL CAPTURE THE PIECES OF PROFESSIONAL CENTER THAT WERE IMPORTANT THERE.
FINALLY, JUST A REMINDER OF WHAT SOME ROUTINE ITEMS ARE.
WE SAY IT AND IT'S NICE, UH, TO KNOW WHAT THAT MIGHT INCLUDE.
UM, IN SITUATIONS WHERE MAYBE WE HAVE A BOUNDARY CHANGE WITH OUR PLANNING AREA, WE WANNA INCORPORATE THAT.
SO SOME YEARS AGO, UH, WE HAD AN, UH, AN ETJ CHANGE WITH NEW HOPE.
SO WE WANNA REMOVE THAT AREA FROM OUR PLANNING AREA MORE SO IT HELPS US ON THE BACK END TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR DATA IS CORRECT AND OF COURSE ANY ROADWAY REALIGNMENTS.
SO THOSE ARE THE THREE BIG BUCKETS THAT ARE THERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE.
QUESTIONS? ANYONE? YOU JUST SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE NEW HOPE NEW AGREEMENT.
IT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR SOME TIME, BUT WE WANTED TO UPDATE OUR BOUNDARIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO REFLECT THAT.
UM, WE HAVE SOME DATA ON THE BACKEND THAT WE TRACK AS FAR AS DIFFERENT PLACE TYPES AND LAND AREA.
SO IT MORE SO HELPS OUR TEAM THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
SO, SO SOME OF THAT, UH, ETJ IS NOT OUR MANAGEMENT ANYMORE? CORRECT.
A LEAK, UH, ON PAGE SIX, YOU SHOW THE THREE 80 CORRIDOR ALIGNMENT.
THE QUESTION RELATES TO THE LAST FEW YEARS.
THE REGION HAS HAD LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS AND MEETINGS ABOUT PROPOSED ALIGNMENT.
SO MY QUESTION IS, IS THIS ALIGNMENT SET, IF WE DROPPED THE WORD PROPOSED
SO THERE'S GONNA BE SOME NUANCE IN THE EXACT DIRECTION AND ALIGNMENT AND CROSS SECTIONS, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, AT THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL, YES, THIS IS SET.
ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU, HALEY.
THIS IS A, UM, AN ITEM THAT HAS A PUBLIC HEARING COMPONENT.
IF YOU'RE HERE DENIED AND WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS PLANNING ZONING REGARDING THIS STAFF REPORT, UH, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.
SEEING NO ONE RUSHED TO THE PODIUM, MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC DISCUSSION TO APPROVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS HE HAS FOR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THE THREE BUCKETS THAT HALEY PRESENTED.
THREE 80 CORRIDOR CHANGING TRENDS AND ROUTINE AMENDMENT.
A MOTION BY MR. WOOD TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE ITEM TWO FOUR DASH ZERO ZERO 3M AMENDMENTS TO THE ONE MCKINNEY 2040 COMP PLAN.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
THIS MOTION CARRIES BY VOTE OF SEVEN IN FAVOR AND ZERO AGAINST.
UH, THIS ITEM WILL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FOR FINAL ACTION ON NOVEMBER 5TH.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR, UH, PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. WE NOW HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO ADDRESS PLANNING AND ZONING ON ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ON OUR AGENDA.
SEEING NONE, UM, STAFF, ANYTHING? NOTHING
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REPORTS.MS. ARNOLD, DO YOU HAVE FOR US VERY QUICKLY? 'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG MEETING.
UH, JUST A REMINDER THAT NEXT WEEK, WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY IS THE TEXAS A PA, UH, PLANNING CONFERENCE THAT'LL BE HOSTED DOWN IN THE CITY OF ALLEN.
I BELIEVE THERE ARE SEVERAL OF YOU THAT, UM, HAVE REGISTERED TO ATTEND.
UM, AND WE AS STAFF HAVE, UH, SEVERAL SESSIONS THAT WILL BE, UH, PRESENTING, UH, FRIDAY MORNING, UM, FROM EIGHT 30 TO 1130, UH, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CATCH ME.
UM, ANDREW JONES, GIVING A NICE, UH, WALKING TOUR OF THE DOWNTOWN, BOTH EAST AND WEST OF, UM, STATE HIGHWAY FIVE.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL, UM, OUTSIDE OF A FORMAL PUBLIC MEETING, UM, AND APPRECIATE, UM, THE SUPPORT AND LETTING MY TEAM ATTEND AS WELL.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
ONE, WE HAVE, UM, ONE OF OUR ALTERNATES IN THE ROOM.
CRAIG IS A NEW ALTERNATE TO PLANNING AND
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ZONING.NEED YOU HERE EVERY MEETING AND READY TO GO? 'CAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN YOU'LL BE CALLED ON.
AND NEXT WE HAVE LEADERSHIP MCKINNEY.
CAN WE SAY WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE.
UH, WITH THAT WE DO, UH, NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
SO MOVED A MOTION ON MR. WATLEY TO ADJOURN.
MS. HAMMOCK, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.
IT'S SIX, I'M SORRY, 7:12 PM AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.