Dec 10, 2024 Planning & Zoning Commission

YEAH. GOOD. GOOD EVENING AT 6 P.M. WELCOME TO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY PLANNING AND ZONING

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FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE THAT ARE HERE TO PARTICIPATE IN A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM BEFORE YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, IF YOU WILL FILL OUT ONE OF THE YELLOW SPEAKERS CARDS AND THESE CARDS ARE ON THE TABLE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE ROOM THERE, AND THEN GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, THE ITEM NUMBER YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON. AND WHEN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, HAND YOUR CARD TO ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS ON THE FRONT HERE. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS, YOUR CONCERNS WITH US. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU ARE HERE AND WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND BEING HERE. IT'S IMPORTANT THE CITIZENS OF MCKINNEY BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS OF GOVERNMENT.

WITH THAT, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, AND I'LL IDENTIFY THOSE WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT IN THE IN THE AGENDA. AND WITH THAT, WE'LL START. THE FIRST ITEM WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO ADDRESS PLANNING AND ZONING REGARDING A NON PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA ITEM. THAT WOULD BE THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING. IF YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT TO ADDRESS PLANNING AND ZONING ON A NON PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. ALL

[CONSENT ITEMS]

THE MINUTES OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF NOVEMBER THE 12TH, 2024 MEMBERS, DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS OR MOTIONS REGARDING THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST REGULAR MEETING? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING ON NOVEMBER 12TH. A MOTION BY MR. LOBO TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING SECOND. SECOND BY MR. WHATLEY. SO, JESSE. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MOTION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. I. THERE WE GO. THAT MOTION CARRIES BY A VOTE OF SEVEN IN FAVOR, ZERO AGAINST THE ITEM. THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on Design Exceptions to a Site Plan for an Airport Terminal (McKinney National Airport), Located at 1915 FM 546 (REQUEST TO BE TABLED)]

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit Request to Allow for a Self-Storage Facility (McKillop Self Storage), Located Approximately 850 feet East of State Highway 5 (South McDonald Street) and on the South Side of Harry McKillop Boulevard (REQUEST TO BE TABLED)]

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[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on Design Exceptions to a Site Plan for Light Manufacturing (Encore Wire), Located Approximately 2,450 Feet North of Industrial Boulevard and on the West Side of Airport Road]

THE REQUEST IS FOR A DESIGN EXCEPTION TO A SITE PLAN SPECIFICALLY FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. AGAIN, THIS IS FOR ENCORE WIRE. TYPICALLY, SITE PLANS ARE APPROVED AT THE STAFF LEVEL, BUT WHEN DESIGN EXCEPTIONS ARE REQUESTED, THESE COME THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR CONSIDERATION. THERE ARE THREE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED. I WILL GO OVER THEM INDIVIDUALLY AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW. THE FIRST DESIGN EXCEPTION IS A REQUEST TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR SCREENING DEVICE FOR ALL MECHANICAL AND HEATING AIR CONDITIONING EQUIPMENT FROM THE. THIS IS USUALLY REQUIRED FROM PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY OR RESIDENTIAL USES OR ZONING DISTRICTS. SO THE REQUEST FOR THE FROM THE APPLICANT IS TO WAIVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR SCREENING TO PROVIDE NO SCREENING AT ALL DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING AND THE TYPE OF ROOF EQUIPMENT REQUIRED, THE STRICT APPLICATION OF THE SCREENING WOULD REQUIRE NEARLY ALMOST A TEN FOOT KIND OF SCREENING DEVICE. THIS, WITH THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA AND SURROUNDED BY EXISTING FUTURE DEVELOPMENT FROM ENCORE. STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE LOCATION WITHIN THE PRIMARILY INDUSTRIAL AREA DOES NOT, WILL NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT BY THIS. BY THIS REQUEST TO NOT PROVIDE A SCREENING DEVICE, GIVEN THAT IT'S IN A COMPLETELY INDUSTRIAL AREA, IT WOULD NOT HAVE ANY ADVERSE EFFECT AROUND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

THEREFORE, STAFF IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE WITH THE REQUEST FOR NO SCREENING DEVICE. THE SECOND DESIGN EXCEPTION THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO UTILIZE ARCHITECTURALLY FINISHED CONCRETE TILT WALL IN LIEU OF MASONRY REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE PD ORDINANCE THAT THE PROPERTY IS UNDER. TYPICALLY, WHEN PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED IN THE HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT AREA, THIS TYPE OF MATERIAL WOULD BE PERMITTED. SO, GIVEN THAT THIS AGAIN, IT'S AGAIN IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA WHERE THE MATERIAL CONCRETE TILT WALL IS VERY IT'S VERY COMMON FOR THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS. STAFF IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE REQUEST TO PROVIDE THE CONCRETE FINISH TILT WALL IN LIEU OF THE MASONRY MATERIAL. THE THIRD DESIGN EXCEPTION, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A TEN FOOT REDUCTION FOR THE LOADING BAY. SETBACKS. AND JUST TO KIND OF SHOW YOU HERE, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ZOOM IN OR NOT, THE REDUCTION FOR THE LOADING BAYS

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IN ORDER TO HAVE A RIGHT TURN LANE, GO INTO THE DEVELOPMENT FROM AIRPORT ROAD. GIVEN THAT THE PROPOSED REDUCTION IS ABOUT TEN FEET, WHICH WOULD PLACE IT AT 65FT WITHIN THE PUBLIC STREET. STAFF IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE REDUCTION, GIVEN THAT THE REQUIREMENT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY IS NECESSARY FOR THE ASSISTANCE OF TRANSPORTATION AND TRAFFIC FLOW, SO STAFF HAS NO CONCERNS REGARDING THE REQUEST, AS THIS WOULD ALSO ALLOW FOR THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE PLACEMENT OF THE BUILDING FOR THE REQUIRED BASE.

THE BUILDING IS BEING PROPOSED AT 69FT, BUT THEY'RE REQUESTING A 65 UP TO A MINIMUM OF 65 OR SORRY REQUIREMENT OF A 65 FOOT SETBACK. SO THAT WOULD BE A TEN FOOT DIFFERENCE. IT IS THE OPINION THAT THE PROPOSED DESIGN EXCEPTION WILL NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT AND WILL SUPPORT THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE. SO AS SUCH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AND I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ARI. QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PROPOSED CHANGES PROPOSED BY ENCORE ONE. VERY GOOD ARI. THANK YOU. IS OUR APPLICANT HERE? HI.

YES. I DON'T WANT TO. DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? WE MIGHT. OH, I'M SORRY. ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD. IF YOU HAVE NO QUESTIONS. SOMEBODY ASKED. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE VERY MUCH. SET ME UP, DOC. OKAY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS PLANNING ZONING REGARDING THESE PROPOSED DESIGN EXCEPTIONS, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE. 240079 SP DESIGN EXCEPTIONS. YOU HAVE A MOTION BY MR. LOBO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM AS PER APPLICANT. I'M SORRY. AS PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION, INCLUDING ALL DESIGN EXCEPTIONS. SECOND. SECOND BY MISS WOODARD. THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES I. OKAY. THIS MOTION CARRIES BY A VOTE OF SEVEN IN FAVOR AND ZERO AGAINST. THE EXCEPTIONS HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR ENCORE. THE NEXT ITEM IS 24-0014. SUP. THIS IS A PUBLIC

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit Request for a Minor Vehicle Repair (Take 5 Oil), Located at 12121 West University Drive]

AS SUCH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE SUP REQUEST AND I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU ARI MEMBERS. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. IS THERE AN APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT? YES, SIR. HEY.

GOOD EVENING. I'M WITH TAKE FIVE OIL CHANGE. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD. JUST HERE TO

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I HAVE I HAVE ONE RIGHT HERE. SORRY, SORRY. THANKS. WE HAVE A LOCATION ON 380 AND GRAVES JUST UP THE STREET, SO WE ALREADY HAVE ONE IN MCKINNEY. IF YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT LOCATION. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. IF YOU HAVE COME TONIGHT AND WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS PLANNING AND ZONING REGARDING THIS. PROPOSED SUP, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND ACCEPT ITEM 240014 SUP. MOTION BY MR. ORDERED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM IS FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. SECOND. SECOND BY MR. WHATLEY. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. I. OKAY, THAT MOTION IS APPROVED BY A VOTE OF SEVEN IN FAVOR AND ZERO AGAINST. THE SUP REQUEST HAS BEEN

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit Request for Auto, Motorcycle, Truck, or Boat, Rental or Sales (Huffines Kia McKinney), Located at the Southwest Corner of North Central Expressway and West White Avenue]

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YEAH. THANKS, JESSE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? STEWART, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS OUR APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT? YES HE IS. OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, PARTICULARLY MR. WHATLEY, WHOM I'VE KNOWN FOR ALMOST AS LONG AS I'VE KNOWN MR. COX, HE WAS RUNNING AROUND IN SHORT PANTS WHEN I FIRST MET HIM. SO, ANYWAY, MY NAME IS DON PASCAL. I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE HUFFINES AUTOMOTIVE GROUP. I DO WORK FOR THEM IN TERMS OF MUNICIPAL RELATIONS ALL OVER THE REGION, AND HAVE WORKED ON THIS PROJECT SINCE IT STARTED IN 2004, AND WE COMPLETED IT IN 2007. SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE BEEN ON THE P AND Z ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. WE DID THE SAME SUP PROCESS FOR THE ON THE NORTH SIDE. I'M NOT SURE I'M GOING TO USE THIS THING RIGHT. IS THAT THAT'S THE EXISTING HYUNDAI THAT HAS BEEN EXPANDED AND WE HAD TO DO THE SAME PROCESS FOR THAT. SO THIS IS A SIMILAR PROCESS. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER ISSUES BECAUSE OF THE EXCEPTIONS THAT MR. STOREY REFERENCED. AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I'M NOT SURE, STUART, WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THIS. THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION. YES. WHY DON'T YOU RUN IT UP TO THAT SO THAT WE DON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THAT? THE ONLY REASON I WANT TO DO THIS AT THIS POINT GO FORWARD. THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED, I THOUGHT WAS A GOOD QUESTION. AND YOU CAN SEE IN THAT PICTURE THE HEIGHT AND THE WIDTH THAT THE FENCE THAT YOU SEE IS ABOUT WHERE THE KIA PROJECT STOPS. IT GOES WAY PAST ALL THE WAY BEHIND THE KIA, BUT THEN IT KEEPS EXTENDING FURTHER TO THE SOUTH. AND THIS IS IT. AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY OVER.

YOU CAN SEE IT AT THE BACK WHERE THE NEW MOTEL IS. SO IT'S YOU'VE GOT THAT MASSIVE TREE LINE BACK THERE AND IT GOES, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW DEEP IT IS. IN MY YOUNGER DAYS, I WOULD HAVE WALKED OUT THROUGH ALL THAT AND CHECKED TO SEE THE DISTANCE. IT GOES OVER TO THE EDGE OF THE CREEK BANK. I CAN TELL YOU THAT. AND ONE OF MY INSTRUCTIONS TO THE OWNER IS, DO NOT TAKE OUT ANY OF THOSE TREES. THEY HAVE MASSIVE ROOT SYSTEMS THEY'VE BEEN GROWING FOR, I DON'T KNOW, 50 TO 100 YEARS. AND THEY ARE STABILIZING AND HELPING TO HOLD THAT BANK. AND SO WE WANT TO KEEP DOING THAT. WE ALSO HAVE IN HERE A AN EROSION HAZARD SETBACK THAT COMES BACK THESE I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THOSE CAME FROM. I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE BUILDING THE MOTEL DUMPED SOME DIRT OVER IS WHAT I THINK HAPPENED. BUT NONETHELESS, WE'LL CLEAN ALL THAT UP. BUT SOMEWHERE IN THIS AREA WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND THAT INCLUDES OUR EROSION HAZARD SETBACK. WHAT IT DOES, IT COMES BACK PRETTY GOOD WAYS. AND WE'RE WORKING WITH ENGINEERING TO CLARIFY SOME ISSUES ON THAT. AND THE FLOODPLAIN ISSUES COMPLETELY. SO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SITE PLAN ENGINEERING.

AND THEY THEY LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE BELIEVE I DID PREPARE THE PRESENTATION. I'M KIND OF OLD SCHOOL. AS BILL KNOWS. I BELIEVE IN PREPARING ANYTHING I THINK ANYBODY MIGHT ASK, WHICH IS WHY I HAD THE PICTURES. I HAD NO IDEA ANYONE WOULD CARE. BUT TO ME, THEY'RE SIGNIFICANT.

THEY'RE A MAJOR COMPONENT OF THAT SITE, BOTH FROM THE WEST VIEW BUT ALSO FROM 75. WHEN YOU LOOK ACROSS THERE, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ABOVE ALL THE CARS THAT ARE PARKED. AND WITH WHATEVER LANDSCAPE WE ADD TO IT, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A COMPLIMENT TO THAT. AND THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY WE'VE WORKED ON TRYING TO PUT THIS TOGETHER IS TO PRESERVE WHAT'S THERE AND ENHANCE IT. WE WILL PROBABLY NOT TRIM THEM HARDLY AT ALL, EVEN EITHER, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANY CHANCES ON DAMAGING IT. WE MAY TRIM SOME LOWER BRANCHES, BUT NOT MUCH. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE GOT. STUART ADDRESSED IT. THEY'VE ADDRESSED OUR TWO EXCEPTIONS WITHOUT ANY ISSUES, I THINK, AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. I DO NOT WANT TO STAND UP HERE AND SPEAK FOR A LONG TIME. AND YOUR CHAIRMAN KNOWS I'VE GOT THE CAPABILITY OF DOING THAT. SO I'M GOING TO PUT THAT OUT FIRST. AND IF YOU'RE SATISFIED WITH THE RESPONSES OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE GOT FOR ME TO ANSWER CONCERNING ANY OF THE DESIGN

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. WHATLEY, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ASK MR. PASCAL? NO, THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. IF YOU COME TONIGHT AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS PLANNING AND ZONING ON THIS PROPOSED S U P, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. ALL RIGHT.

MOTIONS, MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL AS TO APPROVE THE ITEM 240016SUP, INCLUDING THEIR REQUEST TO REDUCE THEIR RIGHT OF WAY EXCEPTION FROM 30FT TO 10FT. AND ALSO THE TREE LINE HAVING THAT SERVE AS THE LANDSCAPING BARRIER, NOT HAVING TO ADD ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ALONG THE WESTERN BORDER. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. WOODARD TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR APPLICANT RECOMMENDATION AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS WELL.

SECOND. SECOND BY MR. CONRAD, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. BUT THIS MOTION CARRIES BY A VOTE OF SEVEN IN FAVOR AND ZERO AGAINST THE MOTION. THE REQUEST IS APPROVED, MR. PASCAL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THIS IS AN SUV, SO IT WILL BE FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL.

OKAY. DO YOU HAVE A DATE? DECEMBER 17TH. MR. PASCAL, THIS DOES GO TO CITY COUNCIL AT DECEMBER 17TH, 2024. OKAY. YES. THAT'S A WEEK FROM TONIGHT, SIR. THANK YOU. I WILL BE THERE. NEXT

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “BN” - Neighborhood Business District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to Allow for Single-Family Uses and Modify the Development Standards (Kostial Addition), Located at 815 North Kentucky Street]

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COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS JASON ROSE. I'M THE ARCHITECT AND A PARTNER IN THIS DEVELOPMENT. I WANT TO GO AHEAD. THAT DRAWING IS DIFFICULT, I THINK, TO COMMUNICATE. AND EVEN BEING AN ARCHITECT, I THINK THREE DIMENSIONALLY. SO I WANT TO PASS THIS MODEL AROUND WHILE I'M GIVING MY PRESENTATION. BECAUSE I THINK BETTER THAN THE WAY A TWO DIMENSIONAL DRAWING DESCRIBES OUR CONCEPT. THIS WILL GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE HERE. SO I'LL PASS THAT AROUND WHILE I'M GIVING A SHORT PRESENTATION. BECAUSE IT IS OUTSIDE THE BOX.

IT IS A UNIQUE DEVELOPMENT IF YOU START, CERTAINLY IT'S KIND OF LIKE IT WON'T ATTACK BACK TO THE BACK CORNER OF IT. SO SOMETHING BREAKS, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. BUT THIS IS THE WORLD I LIVE IN. I SPENT SEVEN YEARS IN COLLEGE BASICALLY DOING THIS FULL TIME BUILDING THESE MODELS, AND I GOT IT. SO I GOT QUITE GOOD AT IT. BUT I THINK IT'S JUST EASIER TO COMMUNICATE.

PEOPLE LOOK AT THAT AND IT'S A WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO CREATE. BUT I'LL START MY PRESENTATION WITH YOUR TOWN CENTER STUDY THAT THE CITY DID BACK IN MARCH OF 2008, ALMOST 17 YEARS AGO. MY PARTNER AND I, RON LUSTIG, HAVE BEEN DOING STUFF IN AND AROUND THE SQUARE SINCE THEN AND SLIGHTLY PRIOR TO THEN. AND ONE THING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IN THAT STUDY, SOMETHING VERY DEAR TO US THAT THAT IT SPEAKS OF IS THE TOWN SQUARE. THE TOWN SQUARE IS ONE OF THE SYMBOLS THAT PEOPLE THROUGHOUT NORTH TEXAS RECOGNIZE AS BEING MCKINNEY. AND THAT IS SO TRUE. AND FOR US AS DEVELOPERS, WHEN WE MARKET AND SELL PROPERTIES HERE, IT'S ALL

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WE OPTED TO TAKE IT BACK IN DENSITY AND JUST DO SOMETHING FUN AND CREATIVE, AND WE'RE PROUD OF THAT DEVELOPMENT. AND I WOULD IMAGINE THE CITY IS TO THIS SITE AND THIS PARTICULAR EXHIBIT IN YOUR STUDY IS CALLED A PREFERRED LAND USE STUDY. AND THAT PARTICULAR STRETCH OF KENTUCKY STREET IS ACTUALLY CALLED OUT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE LITTLE LEGEND IN YOUR LOWER RIGHT HAND SIDE TO BE RESIDENTIAL, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL. BUT THIS PARTICULAR GROUP THAT DID THIS STUDY THOUGHT THAT THAT HAD MORE OF A RESIDENTIAL FEEL. AND WE AGREE WITH THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. AND IT ALSO, I HIGHLIGHTED A NOTE OVER HERE THAT I LIKE THAT GOES BACK TO MY CONCEPT OF SELLING DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY, EXPAND THE HISTORIC DISTRICT TO PROTECT UNIQUE MCKINNEY LOOK. THE UNIQUE MCKINNEY LOOK. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE'RE SELLING AS MUCH. THE SQUARE AND THE NOVELTY OF LIVING IN THIS TYPE OF COMMUNITY VERSUS THE SUBDIVISIONS WHERE WE MIGHT BE COMPETING WITH THE BIG TRUCK BUILDERS. AND WE DO THAT BY RELATING OUR ARCHITECTURE TO THE SQUARE, TO THE HISTORY OF MCKINNEY. THIS ALSO SPEAKS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DONE HERE. ESSENTIALLY, KENTUCKY WOULD BE MORE RESIDENTIAL IN NATURE WITH THE FACADE SETBACK ALONG THE FRONT YARD ZONE, ALTHOUGH MORE URBAN, 10 TO 15FT RATHER THAN SUBURBAN IN SCALE. SO I'LL TALK TO MY CONCEPT HERE.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, WE GOT WE HAVE A PARCEL OF LAND THAT'S UNIQUE. ALL THESE INFILL SITES END UP BEING VERY UNIQUE AND KIND OF ONE OFFS. AND THIS THIS COURTYARD CONCEPT IS UNIQUE. BUT WHAT ENABLED ME TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS HERE, WHERE I'VE NEVER REALLY COME ACROSS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO ANYTHING LIKE THIS, WAS I HAD REAR ACCESS. YOU'RE ALWAYS COMPETING WITH THE AUTOMOBILE WHEN YOU DO DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE TEXANS STILL REFUSE TO GIVE UP THEIR AUTOMOBILES. MAYBE WITH PRICES, EVERYBODY WILL EVENTUALLY START REDUCING THE NUMBER OF AUTOMOBILES. BUT YOU STILL, WHEN YOU'RE SELLING HOMES, HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF AUTOMOBILES AND GUESTS. WE TOOK THE GARAGES TO THE BACK. WE CREATED TWO COVER SPACES, TWO PARKING SPACES OUTSIDE THE GARAGE. SO WHAT THAT ENABLES ME TO DO IS ON A STREET LIKE KENTUCKY THAT'S RESIDENTIAL IN NATURE. I DON'T HAVE 20 CARS PARKED IN FRONT OF MY DEVELOPMENT TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THIS. NOW I'VE GOT CARS IN THE BACK. I'VE GOT A STREETSCAPE THAT AS YOU'RE DRIVING BY YOU, YOU FEEL VERY TYPICAL OF OTHER PROPERTIES HERE IN DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY, WHERE THE AUTOMOBILE WAS GIVEN AT THAT TIME, LESS OF AN EMPHASIS THAN IT IS NOW. SO THE IDEA HERE IS IT'S A RISK FOR US. WE'VE GOT TO FIND FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LIVE IN A LITTLE COMMUNITY WHERE YOU YOU WALK OUT YOUR FRONT DOOR AND THERE'S YOUR NEIGHBOR IN YOUR NORMAL NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU GO OUT YOUR GARAGE AND YOUR ALLEY. YOU REALLY DON'T INTERACT A LOT WITH

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EVERYTHING'S GONE UP. SO WE'VE GOT TO FIND A GROUP OF FOUR INDIVIDUALS THAT WANT TO COME TOGETHER AND SPEND THE MONEY TO PLANT AND KEEP THAT GOING, AND THAT'S NOT CHEAP NOWADAYS. SO IT'S A RISK FOR US. BUT THE WE BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A MARKET FROM IT FOR IT BECAUSE OF THE NOVELTY AND THE UNIQUENESS. WE'RE ONLY LOOKING FOR FOUR PEOPLE THAT THAT SEE, THAT HAVE A VISION OF THAT. AND IT'S A IT'S A UNIQUE PRODUCT OFFERING SOMEWHERE OUT THERE. I THINK WE'LL FIND THEM FOR GREEN THUMBS THAT WANT TO HAVE NEIGHBORS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THEM. SO THAT'S OUR INTENT. IT'S THESE COURTYARD CONCEPTS HAVE BEEN AROUND A WHILE. THEY'VE NEVER REALLY TAKEN OFF BECAUSE AS A DEVELOPER, YOU KNOW, TO DO A PROJECT OF THIS SCALE REQUIRES A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY TO GET THIS ZONING. MOST CITY ORDINANCES, THIS IS OUTSIDE OF THEIR THEIR RECIPE. SO YOU GOT TO STEP OUTSIDE THE BOX. I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS WILL SEE THAT WHAT WE'RE STEPPING OUTSIDE THE BOX TO DO HERE HAS A BENEFIT AND A VALUE TO IT. AND THIS IS PROBABLY THE ONLY PARCEL THAT I'VE COME ACROSS IN THE LAST 20 YEARS THAT GAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. SO I'M KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT IT. IT'S A SMALL PROJECT COMPARED TO WHAT WE NORMALLY DO, BUT IT'S A BIG IDEA. IT'S TO ME, IT'S AS VALUABLE TO ME AS AN ARCHITECT IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE LIVE AND SEEING. MAYBE THERE'S A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO HOW A PERSON LIVES IN THEIR HOME AND INTERACTS WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS. SO I'M I'M KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT IT. WITH THAT, I'LL STOP YAPPING AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, SIR. APPROXIMATELY WHAT'S THE APPROXIMATE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF EACH OF THESE? EACH OF THESE HOUSES ARE 2450FT■S, GIVE OR TAE A FEW 50FT■S. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT WE'VE GOT TO GET 650 TO $700,000 FOR THIS TO PROFORMA FOR OUR PURPOSES, TO COVER THE EXPENSE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THERE. SO IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT $2.5 MILLION MARKET VALUE WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH IT. ON WHAT WAS A $180,000 PURCHASE PRICE THAT WE SPENT ON THAT PROPERTY.

THERE'S I GUESS THERE'S RESIDENTS BEHIND IT. I'M SORRY. THERE'S RESIDENTS BEHIND IT.

YES, SIR. THERE'S RESIDENCES BEHIND BEHIND IT. WE'VE I'VE SPOKEN TO THE NEIGHBORS. I WENT AROUND AND SHOWED THEM MY CONCEPT. AND I DO THAT ON ALL MY DEVELOPMENTS. AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY HAPPY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THE HISTORY OF THIS HOUSE, BUT THE LADY THAT LIVED THERE WAS WAS KIND OF A HOARDER. SO THERE WERE SCHOOL BUSSES, OLD DETERIORATED SCHOOL BUSSES. SHE WAS THE CAT LADY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. CATS ALL LIVED IN THE SCHOOL BUS. AND THERE WERE 2 OR 3 OLD JUNK CARS AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF. AND THE NEIGHBORS WERE, QUITE FRANKLY, THEY WERE GLAD TO SEE SOMEBODY WAS GOING TO CLEAN. CLEAN UP THE AREA. WILL YOU BUILD A FENCE BEHIND IT OR WE WILL HAVE A PRIVATE DRIVE ALLEY TYPE OF SITUATION AND WE WILL HAVE NOT A FENCE, BUT WE'LL HAVE GARAGES IN THE BACK AND BEHIND OUR DRIVEWAY. THERE'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT TREES, AND WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON OUR OUR SITE TO PRESERVE SOME OF THE BIG TREES. I THINK WE GOT A 30 INCH CALIPER RED OAK OUT THERE. WE'RE PRESERVING AND TO THE BACK OF US UP AGAINST THE RESIDENTIAL AND TO OUR NORTH SIDE, WE'RE GOING TO AND SOUTH, WE'RE GOING TO PRESERVE ALL THE TREES ALONG THE FENCE LINE. WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE ARRANGEMENT TO TAKE CARE OF THE COMMON AREA? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN HOA THAT EACH PERSON IS A IS A MEMBER OF THAT WILL COLLECTIVELY COLLECT AND MANAGE THAT. BUT IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO FOUR TYPICAL HOA. YOU GOT 500 PEOPLE AND THEY DON'T AGREE ON ANYTHING. BUT THEN YOU ELECT A BOARD AND THEY CAN KIND OF CONTROL WHERE THE MONEY GOES.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A BOARD OF FOUR PEOPLE, SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO FIND FOUR PEOPLE, AND THEY'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE DUES THAT ARE SET IN ADVANCE. BUT THOSE FOUR PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME TOGETHER AND MANAGE THAT COMMON AREA. AND AN HOA THAT'S ATTACHED TO THAT PROPERTY. DO YOU HAVE PLANS FOR ANY ADDITIONAL PROPERTY ALONG THERE, ADJACENT OR WHATEVER TO DO THIS? AGAIN, NOT THAT, BUT I DO HAVE A $20 MILLION PROJECT. I HOPE TO BE IN HERE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS FOR ON THE ON TENNESSEE OF A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT NATURE. BUT WE GOT WE LOOK FOR PROPERTIES THAT IN THIS AREA BECAUSE WE'VE WE'VE DONE SO MUCH IN DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY. SO WE KIND OF ARE AWARE OF DIFFERENT STUFF. BUT THIS SPECIFICALLY TYPE OF PROJECT. NO, BECAUSE IT TAKES A VERY SPECIFIC SITE. YOU JUST CAN'T YOU CAN'T DO THAT EVERYWHERE. HOW MUCH SPACE IS THERE BETWEEN EACH ACTUAL PROPERTY AND AT THE REAR OF LOT ONE? FROM THE DIAGRAM THAT WE

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SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SO BETWEEN LOTS ONE AND TWO HERE AND THREE. THREE. YES. HOW MUCH SPACE IS THERE ACTUALLY BETWEEN THOSE TWO STRUCTURES? OKAY. THAT IS DRIVEN BY FIRE CODE PRIMARILY. AND THERE'S SIX FEET FROM WALL TO WALL FACE. BUT THEN THIS OPENS UP TO GIVE EACH PERSON KIND OF A BIGGER BACKYARD. BUT FOR FIRE PURPOSES, THE SIX FEET KEEPS YOU OUT OF THE ONE ONE. OUR FIREWALL SCENARIO AND THE THEY'RE DESIGNED TO GIVE THE SPACES OF THE COMMUNITY GARDEN AND THEN THESE BACKYARDS BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS A PET. THESE ARE ACTUALLY BIGGER YARDS THAN TRADITIONAL BUYERS NOWADAYS ARE LOOKING FOR. AS YOU'RE SEEING SMALLER AND SMALLER YARDS OUT THERE. THIS STILL HAS EACH ONE OF THESE HAS QUITE A BIT OF YARD TO MAINTAIN. AND SO BETWEEN THOSE PROPERTIES IS THAT IS THERE GOING TO BE A FENCE THAT YOU'RE ERECTING. YES. SO YEAH. AND THE DARK OBJECTS HERE ARE ACTUALLY WE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO OUR TRASH CAN STORAGE BECAUSE THIS IS THIS WILL GO AWAY. TRASH CANS AREN'T GOING TO BE STORED BACK THERE. THESE TRASH CANS THEN WILL BE SERVED OFF A PICKUP ON KENTUCKY STREET.

BUT THAT'S WHAT THOSE REPRESENT. THOSE ARE JUST WHERE WE CAN PARK AND HIDE THE TRASH CANS FROM PUBLIC VIEW. WHERE DO THEY STORE THEIR LAWN MOWER IF THEY'RE ALL COMING TOGETHER TO SHARE THE COMMON MAINTENANCE IN THEIR GARAGES, THEY WOULD STORE THEIR LAWN MOWERS AND EQUIPMENT BACK THERE, WHICH I CALL THE TEXAS BASEMENT. AND THAT'S WHY WE LIKE TO HAVE THE ADDITIONAL PARKING OUTSIDE THE GARAGE, BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE MOVE IN, FILL THAT WITH A BUNCH OF STUFF, THAT BECOMES A ONE CAR GARAGE AT BEST. SO THE GARAGE AND THESE ARE TWO STORY OR ARE THEY THREE STORY, TWO STORY. THERE ARE TWO STORY. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. SO I HAVE ANOTHER IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME EMPTY LOTS TO THE TO THE SOUTH. YES, SIR. SO HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU RUN AN ALLEY BEHIND THESE? THROUGH THOSE? YOU CAN DO IT. WE'VE GOT TO TAKE THE ALLEY OUT TO THE STREET TO THE SOUTH. SO IT'S A IT'S A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY CURRENTLY EXISTING. SO WE ARE RUNNING WE ARE IMPROVING THE ALLEY ALL THE WAY FOR THOSE TWO LOTS I'VE BEEN IN TRYING TO CONTACT THE OWNER OF THOSE TWO LOTS AND PURCHASE THOSE TWO LOTS AND DO A SIMILAR DEAL. AND IT'S OWNED BY AN ATTORNEY. IT WAS IN AN ESTATE AND THE ATTORNEY AND HER DAUGHTER, IT'S ACTUALLY TWO PARCELS TO THE SOUTH, AND I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET THEM OFF OF HIGH CENTER BECAUSE I WANTED TO DO IT BEFORE THEY SAW THIS, BECAUSE IF THIS REALLY TAKES OFF, THE PRICE IS PROBABLY GOING TO GO UP. BUT WE ARE IMPROVING THE ALLEY TO THE STREET. ON OUR NICKEL. THAT'S TO BOTH THE SOUTH AND THE NORTH OR JUST THE SOUTH? SOUTH. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH HAS BEEN ABANDONED. AND THE HOMEOWNERS PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE TAKEN THAT PROPERTY FROM THE PUBLIC. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. ROSE, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THANK YOU. WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING NOW ON THIS ITEM. IF YOU COME AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS PLANNING AND ZONING TONIGHT ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. ALL RIGHT. JUST TO NOTE, WE DO HAVE CITIZEN COMMENTS THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THIS ITEM. AND PLEASE NOTE THAT THOSE COMMENTS WILL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS PART OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING PACKAGE. OF QUESTIONS OR MOTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS, MOTIONS? COMMENTS ON THE MOTION'S BEEN COMING FROM THAT END TONIGHT. IT JUST HAPPENED TO GO TO SLEEP. DID THEY HAPPEN TO GO TO SLEEP ON THAT? YEAH. GOT A LITTLE STICKY DIDN'T IT. YEAH. DID WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 24 0035Z. MOTION BY MR. WHATLEY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM AS PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

SECOND, SECOND BY MR. LEBEAU, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. ALL RIGHT. THAT

[00:50:08]

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Zone the Subject Property to “R43” - Residential Estate District, Located at 4225 County Road 1006]

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS AGAIN, ARI, WITH THE CITY OF MCKINNEY PLANNER. THE REQUEST AGAIN LIKE AS MENTIONED, IS TO ZONE A PROPERTY APPROXIMATELY 11 ACRES TO OUR 43 RESIDENTIAL ESTATE DISTRICT. THE PROPERTY, AS MENTIONED, IS LOCATED OFF OF 4225 COUNTY ROAD 1006. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION. CURRENTLY, THERE IS AN EXISTING HOME ON THE PROPERTY WHICH IS TO REMAIN. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE AGAIN TO OUR 43 TO ALLOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES. STAFF IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE REQUEST AS IT SUPPORTS THE STRATEGIC EXCUSE ME SUPPORTS THE STRATEGIC GOALS OF THE SCENIC DISTRICT IN THE PRESERVATION OF RESIDENTIAL STATE CHARACTER AND SHOULD COMPLEMENT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES THROUGH AN EXPECTED MIX OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOT SIZES.

THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AND I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MEMBERS, JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. THIS IS THE STAFF REPORT THAT WAS CORRUPT, IF YOU WILL, IN THE IN OUR PACKET, THERE IS A HARD COPY OF THE CORRECTED ITEM ON YOUR DESK. THAT IS CORRECT. YES. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE IT. WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON THIS PROPOSED ZONING? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS OUR APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT? YES, SIR. I'M RICK FRANKLIN I'M AT 4225 COUNTY ROAD 1006. ANY QUESTIONS? I'M HERE TO ANSWER. WE MAY COME UP WITH SOME NOW THAT ONE. MR. FRANKLIN, IS THERE A REQUEST? IS THERE AN ANNEXATION FILED? YES. OKAY. YES. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. IF YOU'VE COME TONIGHT AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS PLANNING AND ZONING ON THIS PROPOSED PROPERTY ZONING, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. YES. YOU JUST WAIT. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE. 240073Z. FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. LOBO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. SECOND. SHE BEAT ALL OF YOU DOWN HERE, MISS WOODARD. SORRY, I WASN'T SPEAKING. YEAH, OKAY, SO THIS KIND OF US AND US AND THEM TONIGHT, ISN'T IT? AGAINST US? SEEMS TO BE WINNING. YEAH, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MR. BUT THIS MOTION CARRIES BY A VOTE OF SEVEN IN FAVOR AND ZERO AGAINST. THE ITEM WILL BE SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION AT THE DECEMBER 17TH, 2024, MEETING WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION. MR. FRANKLIN, YOU WILL BE SENT WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO OUR DISCUSSION

[Consider/Discuss Proposed Amendments to McKinney Town Center (MTC) Zoning District (Appendix 2B) of the Unified Development Code (UDC)]

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WE WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S AN APPETITE FOR THAT AND SEE WHAT YOU ALL AND COUNCIL THINK OF OUR CURRENT RECOMMENDATIONS. SO FOR THOSE USES IN QUESTION, WE HAVE FIRST ALCOHOL RELATED USE.

EXCUSE ME, ALCOHOL RELATED USES AND A NEW USE THAT WE'RE CALLING CRAFT CONSUMABLE ESTABLISHMENTS.

AFTER THAT WE HAVE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT BOTH INDOOR AND OUTDOOR. AND FINALLY WE WANTED TO DISCUSS BODY ART STUDIOS. WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT EXPANDING OR ALTERING THE USES IN THE MTC, WE WANTED TO COMPARE TO OTHER HISTORIC DOWNTOWNS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. SO WE LOOKED AT SIX GRAPEVINE, DENISON, PLANO, GEORGETOWN, DENTON, AND SAN MARCOS. ALL OF THEM ARE MAIN STREET CERTIFIED HISTORIC DOWNTOWNS. AND WHEN WE WERE ANALYZING WHAT KIND OF USES WERE ALLOWED THERE, WE FOUND THEY KIND OF FELL INTO THREE CATEGORIES. DENISON AND GRAPEVINE WERE THE MOST RESTRICTIVE, PLANO AND GEORGETOWN LESS SO, AND DENTON AND SAN MARCOS WERE THE LEAST RESTRICTIVE IN WHAT SORT OF USES THEY ALLOWED. MCKINNEY IS CURRENTLY IN BETWEEN THE MOST RESTRICTIVE AND MODERATELY RESTRICTIVE TOWNS, THOUGH I WOULD SAY THERE WERE A BIT CLOSER TO THE MODERATELY THAN MOST. OUR FIRST USES OF THE NIGHT THAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING ARE THOSE ALCOHOL RELATED USES. CURRENTLY IN THE MTC, WE ALLOW

[01:00:01]

NEXT, OUR OUR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT USES. CURRENTLY IN THE MTC WE HAVE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT BOTH INDOOR AND OUTDOOR. THIS IS A USE THAT NO LONGER EXISTS IN THE UDC. IT'S BEEN REPLACED BY TWO SETS OF SEPARATE USES. NOWADAYS IN THE UDC WE HAVE COMMERCIAL ENTERTAINMENT, INDOOR AND OUTDOOR AND RECEPTION AND EVENT CENTER, INDOOR AND OUTDOOR. IT'S JUST A BIT MORE GRANULAR. DEFINITIONS. THE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT WAS IMPORTED TO THE MTC BACK IN 2013 FROM THE OLD CODE. AT THE TIME. IT CURRENTLY COVERS EVERYTHING THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THESE COMMERCIAL ENTERTAINMENT AND RECEPTION EVENT CENTERS. WE JUST WANT IT TO ALL ALIGN. AN EXAMPLE

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PRIMARILY, THIS WOULD BE ALLOWING BY RIGHT THE INDOOR EVENT CENTERS AND COMMERCIAL ENTERTAINMENT IN THE HISTORIC CORE AND DOWNTOWN CORE. WE FOUND THAT THESE ARE PRETTY NATURAL FIT TO THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ECOSYSTEM. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN DISRUPTIVE, AND THEY PROVIDE A GOOD LEVEL OF ECONOMIC DIVERSITY TO THE DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL OFFERINGS. THE OTHER BIG CHANGE WOULD BE GOING FROM NOT ALLOWED AT ALL TO ALLOWED WITH CRITERIA IN THE DOWNTOWN EDGE, SO THAT WESTERN FLANK THE CRITERIA IN QUESTION WOULD BE THAT THEY SHALL BE LOCATED A MINIMUM OF 300FT FROM RESIDENTIAL USES OR ZONES, AND THAT THAT MAY BE MODIFIED OR ELIMINATED WITH THE APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. THE 300FT IS A PRETTY TYPICAL. WE DON'T WANT THESE USES RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER. DISTANCE THAT WE HAVE IN THE UDC. ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF IT IS WE DON'T WANT DAYCARES WITHIN 300FT OF A GAS STATION PUMP. AS COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT AND COMMERCIAL ENTERTAINMENT AND RECEPTION EVENT CENTERS. THAT'S A VERY, VERY BROAD CATEGORY OF BUSINESSES. SOME ARE GOING TO BE MORE DISRUPTIVE THAN OTHERS, SO WE WANTED TO BUILD IN SOME FLEXIBILITY WHERE IF THERE IS A BUSINESS THAT WANTED TO COME IN AT A SITE WITHIN 300FT, IF IT DOES SEEM LIKE IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE THAT THERE WOULD STILL BE AN AVENUE FOR APPROVAL AND MOST OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, IF THAT WAS THE CASE WHERE A LOCATION SEEMED TO FIT AN IDEA BUT THE ZONING DIDN'T ALLOW FOR IT, YOU COULD REQUEST A REZONE AND PERHAPS IT WOULD BE GRANTED.

THE ISSUE IS WITH THE MTC, THE CITY HAS GENERALLY NOT ALLOWED OR EVEN CONSIDERED REZONING OUT OF THE MTC, SO WE NEED TO BUILD THAT EXTRA FLEXIBILITY IN. HENCE THE ABILITY TO RESOLVE THIS BY A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN SUP. MOVING OUTDOORS. MORE RESTRICTIVE. WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR COMPARISON DOWNTOWNS NOT ALLOWED AT ALL IN ANY OF THE THREE MOST RESTRICTIVE AND ALLOWED GENERALLY WITH CONDITIONS IN THE LESS RESTRICTIVE DOWNTOWNS CURRENTLY, WE DO ALLOW IT IN A NUMBER OF DISTRICTS WITH AN SUP. IN FACT, WE ALLOW IT AT ALL OF THE DISTRICTS EXCEPT FOR, AGAIN, THE DOWNTOWN EDGE WHERE IT'S NOT CURRENTLY ALLOWED AT ALL. THIS CHANGE IS A BIT MORE SIMPLE, GOING FROM NOT ALLOWED AT ALL TO ALLOWED WITH AN SUP. AGAIN, IT'S FORESEEABLE THAT THERE COULD BE BUSINESSES THAT ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING URBAN FABRIC, AND THAT WE WANT TO BUILD THAT FLEXIBILITY INTO THE CODE SO IT CAN BE DETERMINED AT A PUBLIC HEARING RATHER THAN AT STAFF'S DESK. THE FINAL USE WE WANTED TO DISCUSS ARE BODY ART STUDIOS, AND THOSE ARE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT OFFER TATTOOING OR BODY PIERCING. UNLIKE THE OTHER USES, STAFF DOES NOT HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. RATHER, BECAUSE WE'VE RECEIVED SUCH FREQUENT INQUIRY ABOUT THIS KIND OF BUSINESS, WE WANTED TO SEE IF THERE WAS AN APPETITE TO ADD IT

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THE REST REQUIRE EITHER AN SUP OR HAVE SOME CONDITIONS ATTACHED TO IT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BECAUSE OF JUST EXPERIENCE WITH, SAY, DENTON OR PLANO LOCALLY, BUT A NUMBER OF PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS OWNERS HAVE COME IN WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT IT WAS ALLOWED HERE, AND WERE VERY SURPRISED WHEN WE TOLD THEM THAT, NO, THIS IS NOT A PERMITTED USE IN DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY. SO WE CAN SEE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS ON HOW THIS COULD BE PERMITTED. IF THE APPETITE IS THERE TO PERMIT IT. ONE IS JUST THAT WE KEEP THE RECURRENT RESTRICTIONS, I.E. IT'S NOT ALLOWED. NEXT, WE COULD ALLOW IT IN LIMITED AREAS WITH CRITERIA, OR WE COULD ALLOW IT BROADLY ACROSS MANY OF THE DIFFERENT CHARACTER DISTRICTS WITH CRITERIA. AS FAR AS WHAT THAT CRITERIA WOULD LOOK LIKE, IT COULD BE A NUMBER OF THINGS. WE'D PROBABLY WANT SOME DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL AS TO WHAT DIRECTION WE WOULD TAKE THAT CRITERIA, BUT SOME EXAMPLES ARE PLANO, WHERE THEY ALLOW A CERTAIN NUMBER BY RIGHT, AND THEN AFTER THAT YOU HAVE TO GET AN SUP. IF YOU WANT TO OPEN A BODY ART STUDIO IN THEIR DOWNTOWN. OR WE COULD DO SOMETHING MORE SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD, LIKE A DISTANCE REQUIREMENT. IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT THE DIRECTION WE WOULD BE GIVEN IS, AND WE WILL OPERATE STARTING THERE AND COME BACK WITH A FINAL PRODUCT WHEN IT'S TIME TO ACTUALLY PASS THE AMENDMENT. SO TO RECAP, WE ARE HERE TODAY PRIMARILY TO BE UPDATING THE MTC. 95% OF IT IS JUST MAKING IT PLAY NICE WITH THE REST OF THE UDC. BUT WE DO HAVE A COUPLE CHANGES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED WHILE WE'RE HERE MAKING CHANGES. FIRST IS THAT CRAFT CONSUMABLE ESTABLISHMENT? IT WOULD REPLACE THE EXISTING USES, BUT IN DOING SO WOULD ALLOW ADDITIONAL BUSINESS TYPES. FOR A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT. WE WOULD BE EASING THE RESTRICTIONS IN THE CORE DISTRICTS AND EXPANDING THEM TO THE EDGE. AND FOR OUTDOOR, WE WOULD BE EXPANDING TO ALL DISTRICTS, BUT STILL REQUIRING AN SP. AND FINALLY, FOR BODY ART STUDIOS, WE WILL JUST BE ASKING FOR DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL AND WE CAN OFFER CRITERIA DEPENDING ON THAT DIRECTION. WITH THAT. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. I JUST WANT TO SAY CAMERON, THAT WAS VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU, VERY MUCH. QUESTIONS? RUSS, I HAVE A QUESTION. YEAH. GOOD PRESENTATION. WOULD YOU BE ASKING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT ANY POINT IN TIME? I THINK THE IDEA IS THAT IT WOULD BE NOTICED PUBLICLY. SO IF THERE WAS PUBLIC COMMENT, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO VOICE IT AT EITHER THE UPCOMING COUNCIL WORK SESSION AT THE LATER PLANNING AND ZONING PRESENTATION, OR AT THE ACTUAL COUNCIL MEETING WHERE IT WOULD BE DECIDED. THIS IS SIMILAR TO WE HAD A THIS ISN'T WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER LIKE A MAJOR OVERHAUL. IT'S MORE OF A TWEAK SIMILAR TO THE RECENTLY PASSED UDC AMENDMENT. AND I WANT TO SAY THAT WAS OCTOBER. SO THIS THE ANTICIPATED PUBLIC COMMENT WOULD BE COMING AS A RESULT OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND PRESENTATIONS. I THINK YOU SAID ALSO THAT IT'D HAVE TO BE AN ELECTION FOR BARS. YES. WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANYTHING TO DO WITH BARS. IT'S JUST THAT PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS OWNERS OFTEN COME TO US AND ASK, CAN WE OPEN A BAR? AND WE TELL THEM, NO, WE CAN'T. AND IT'S FREQUENT ENOUGH THAT BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ALCOHOL RELATED USES, WE WANTED TO TOUCH ON IT.

BUT THE WAY WE TOUCH ON IT IS BY EXPLAINING THAT WE CAN'T. WE HAVE NO METHOD TO CHANGE THAT.

IT IS ENTIRELY UP TO THE PUBLIC VIA ELECTION. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. SO WITH A COUPLE OF THE REVISIONS WHERE LIKE THE COMMERCIAL ENTERTAINMENT, OUTDOOR RECEPTION GOING FROM BEING NOT PERMITTED TO JUST REQUIRING A SUP ON THE DOWNTOWN EDGE, HAS ANY HAVE ANY COMMENTS COME UP FROM CURRENT BUSINESS OWNERS IN DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY AS THAT BEING SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO DRAW BUSINESS AWAY FROM BUSINESS OWNERS WHO HAVE THAT TYPE OF ESTABLISHMENT IN DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY AT ALL. I'VE NOT HEARD ANYTHING TO THAT EFFECT. YEAH, I'VE NOT HEARD

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THERE. WE WANTED TO BUILD IN A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR BUSINESSES. THEY STILL THEY STILL HAVE TO HAVE THE FULL, ROBUST PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL, BUT IF THERE WAS A BUSINESS THAT COULD REASONABLY COEXIST WITH ITS NEIGHBORS IN THAT PART OF THE URBAN FABRIC, WE WANTED THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE THERE AND HAVE COUNCIL DECIDE THAT FOR A GIVEN CASE. GREAT PRESENTATION. AWESOME. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? CAMERON, IN YOUR REPORT, YOU TALKED ABOUT BODY ART STUDIOS AND THAT IS A BROAD CRAFT IF YOU WILL. YES. SO IT'S GOOD THAT YOU HAVE THE CHART SHOWING WHO'S WHO'S ALLOWING AND WHO'S NOT. AND THEN. ENCOURAGE COUNCIL TO WEIGH IN ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND HOW DOES IT HOW IF IT FITS IN THIS DOWNTOWN AREA. AND DEIRDRE BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO ALLOW SOMETHING NEXT DOOR TO SOMEONE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE COMPATIBLE, WE NEED SOME SOME VEHICLE TO LET THEM SAY, TIME OUT. YES, YOU KNOW, ALL ALL THE BOTH THIS AND THE CRAFT CONSUMABLES WERE INCLUDED IN THIS PRESENTATION BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SPECIFIC INSTANCES OF FOLKS COMING FORWARD AND EITHER NOT BEING ABLE TO OPERATE A GIVEN BUSINESS, OR THEY JUST ASSUMED THAT IT WAS PERMITTED BASED ON THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF OTHER DOWNTOWNS IN THE AREA. RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, MISS ARNOLD. DO WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING OR ARE WE JUST LISTENING? IT WAS JUST DISCUSSION ONLY OKAY. AND THIS WILL GO TO COUNCIL AT SOME POINT. THE THERE IS A WORK SESSION DISCUSSION, THE EXACT SAME PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL GOING NEXT WEEK I BELIEVE. YES.

OKAY. YEAH. VERY GOOD. MR. CLOUTIER, IF YOU WILL WEIGH IN WHEN THIS GETS TO COUNCIL. OKAY.

CHASE MR. FRANKLIN OFF. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO ADDRESS PLANNING AND ZONING ON AN ITEM, NOT ON THE AGENDA. SO IF YOU'VE WAITED UNTIL 7:20 P.M. TO SHARE YOUR THREE MINUTES, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD

[COMMISSION AND STAFF COMMENTS]

HIS NAME IS RANGER. IT WAS 35 HOURS WORTH OF LABOR, SO I THINK SHE GETS A MEDAL OF SOME SORT.

YEAH, BUT MOM AND BABY ARE BOTH HAPPY AND HEALTHY AND DOING VERY WELL. AND I THINK KATE HAS. OR CAITLYN HAS A PICTURE SHE'S GOING TO TRY AND THROW UP IF SHE'S GOOD, IF SHE CAN. SO

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THEY'RE RANKED NUMBER FIVE. THERE ARE ONLY THREE TEAMS IN FRONT OF THEM AND THEY ARE ALL SIX A TEAMS. SO MY SON PLAYS ON THE TEAM. THEY'RE DOING PHENOMENALLY WELL. AND IF NOBODY HAS PLANS TO GO TO MCKINNEY CHRISTIAN ON NEW YEAR'S EVE AT 430 AND COME OUT AND SUPPORT THEM IN THEIR NEXT HOME GAME, O, WOW, NEW YEAR'S TONIGHT. THEY'RE OUT IN ARGYLE, SO HOPE YOU GUYS ARE WINNING. AND YEAH, WISH THEM GOOD LUCK. ABSOLUTELY WISH THEM GOOD LUCK. BE GREAT TO HAVE ANOTHER MCKINNEY TEAM GOING TO STATE AGAIN. SO YEAH JUST DON'T FORGET THE ROTARY PARADE THIS SATURDAY NIGHT IN MCKINNEY. DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN, IT'S WELL WORTH THE TRIP. YOU NEED TO COME DOWN TO MCKINNEY AND CHECK IT OUT WITH YOU. SORRY, I WILL PROBABLY GET MY HAND SLAPPED IF I DON'T MENTION IT. SO THE GIFT OF LIGHT IS A CHRISTMAS DISPLAY THAT IS GOING ON IN CITY OF MCKINNEY. THEY WERE ON THE GREAT CHRISTMAS LIGHT FIGHT. IT'S IN A STATE OF VERONA, AND SO IF YOU GOOGLE GIFT OF LIGHT AND THERE IS A, YOU KNOW, A CHARITABLE DONATION OPPORTUNITY TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION. SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO PUT ON THAT, PUT THAT ON YOUR CHRISTMAS LIGHTS TOUR DISPLAY FOR THIS SEASON AS WELL. GO EARLY, GO EARLY, PLEASE, AND DON'T BLOCK IN ANY RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ANYTHING VERY GOOD. WE DO NEED A MOTION. ONE THING. YES, SIR. MR. WHATLEY, WILL YOU? OFFERING TRANSPORTATION DOWNTOWN ON SATURDAY DID NOT FOR YOU. YES. SO MUCH FOR YOU. YES. WE WILL ARRANGE TO GET YOU THERE. FOR SURE. WE DO NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADJOURN. MOVE TO ADJOURN, MR. LOBO. AND WHO SECOND? DEIRDRE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE BY THOSE OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN. ALL RIGHT. IT'S

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.