Dec 17, 2024 City Council Work Session

HIM TO GET IN LINE. YOU READY TO GET IN LINE? GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. TODAY IS TUESDAY,

[CALL TO ORDER]

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WE'RE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 222 NORTH TENNESSEE STREET. THIS IS OUR CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION.

[Police Department Officer Recognition Program]

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AND EVERYBODY SIT. THANK YOU.

[Recognition of City Staff for Emergency Response and Life Saving Efforts]

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BACK HERE. ALL RIGHT. ITEM 242277. PRESENTATION ON IMPROVING

[Presentation on Improving Cardiac Survivorability]

ALL RIGHT. FIRST AND FOREMOST, AS CHIEF MENTIONED, WE SAW A NEED IN THE COMMUNITY, A NEED TO IMPROVE OUR CARDIAC ARRESTS. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GOING AWAY IN SOCIETY. IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN EVERY EVERY ORGANIZED SOCIETY. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE. THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE PLACE. OUR ONLY OPTION IS WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP IMPROVE THAT SURVIVABILITY UP ON THE ON THE MONITOR, YOU'LL SEE TWO OF OUR 2024 CITY COUNCIL GOALS. ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND SAFE AND SECURE COMMUNITY. THESE ARE TWO INITIATIVES OR TWO GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT HELP GUIDE THIS INITIATIVE. BUT AS YOU WILL FIND OUT THROUGHOUT THIS POWERPOINT, IT'S NOT ABOUT A CHECKBOX FOR OUR COUNCIL GOALS. IT IS NICE. IT FEELS GOOD AT THE END OF THE YEAR TO SAY, HEY, WE ACCOMPLISHED THIS, BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S ABOUT IT'S ABOUT CHRIS BARBER. IT'S ABOUT THOSE THAT ARE ABLE TO COME BACK AND SHAKE THE HANDS, TO BE WITH THEIR LOVED ONES, TO HAVE ANOTHER CHRISTMAS WITH THEM. THAT'S OUR ULTIMATE GOAL. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M CLEAR ABOUT THAT. IT'S ABOUT PEOPLE. SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, WHAT IS A CARDIAC ARREST? IT'S A SUDDEN, SUDDEN, SOMETIMES TEMPORARY CESSATION OF THE HEART WHERE PERFUSION IS NOT TAKING PLACE.

THERE'S MANY TYPES OF CARDIAC ARREST. AND I MUST ADMIT, I'M GRATEFUL THAT DOCTOR FELTZ IS NOT HERE BECAUSE SHE WOULD PROBABLY CRITIQUE ANYTHING I HAD TO SAY AND BRING ALL THE QUESTIONS. SO SHE MADE THIS A LOT EASIER. WE DO MISS HER, THOUGH, FOR THE RECORD. WE KNOW THROUGH SCIENCE AND THROUGH TRIALS THAT 10% OF YOUR SURVIVABILITY DROPS FOR EVERY MINUTE THAT YOU GO WITHOUT CHEST COMPRESSIONS ON THE HEART OR ANY TYPE OF DEFIBRILLATION. SO EVERY MINUTE THAT WE GO WITHOUT HELPING THAT INDIVIDUAL, YOUR SURVIVABILITY QUICKLY DROPS. YOU DO THE MATH. THAT'S ABOUT TEN MINUTES FROM THE TIME YOU COLLAPSE TO THE TIME THAT YOU PRETTY MUCH ENTER IN THE CROSSOVER. WE KNOW THAT IT'S ABOUT TEN MINUTES UP ON THE

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AS CHIEF MENTIONED, WE SENT A FEW OF OUR MEMBERS, INCLUDING A MEMBER OF OUR DISPATCH, WHICH IS KEY TO THE SUCCESS OF THIS PROGRAM OUT TO SEATTLE, WASHINGTON, TO ATTEND WHAT'S CALLED THE RESUSCITATION ACADEMY. THE RESUSCITATION ACADEMY IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT WORKS OFF OF TRIALS, TRIAL STUDIES, SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE, AS WELL AS PRACTICES BEST PRACTICES TO SET FORTH STANDARDS FOR SUCCESS WHEN IT COMES TO CARDIAC ARREST SURVIVABILITY. AT THAT CONFERENCE, WE LEARNED YOU WILL SEE ABOUT THESE TEN STEPS IN JUST A SECOND WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE THESE CHANGES. SEATTLE, WASHINGTON SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW HOLDS THE NUMBER ONE SPOT WHEN IT COMES TO SURVIVING A CARDIAC ARREST. IF YOU WERE TO HAVE A SUDDEN CARDIAC ARREST IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE, YOU HAVE A 50% CHANCE OF SURVIVING. THAT IS INCREDIBLE. NATIONAL AVERAGE IS ABOUT A LITTLE LESS THAN 30. SO YOU CAN SEE WE HAD WE HAD SOME SOME WORK OR SOME SOME GOALS, SOME LOFTY GOALS. WE WANTED TO WORK ON. THE RESUSCITATION ACADEMY SETS FORTH THESE TEN STEPS. SO THIS IS WHAT WE BROUGHT BACK TO MCKINNEY. WE'VE GOT A CARDIAC ARREST REGISTRY. WE'VE GOT TELEPHONE CPR WITH OUR DISPATCH. WE'RE HIGH PERFORMANCE CPR. YOU CAN SEE WE'VE ATTACHED ABOUT FIVE OF THESE THROUGH THE HELP OF. DISPATCH AND DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, POLICE DEPARTMENT, EVERYBODY. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK ON THESE AND IMPLEMENT THESE. WE'VE ONLY IMPLEMENTED FIVE OF THEM TO THIS POINT WHILE WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THESE OTHER ONES. BUT WE'RE ALREADY STARTING TO SEE THE RESULTS. AND THAT'S PROMISING FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING TO JUST GIVES THAT CONFIRMATION THAT WE'RE HEADING DOWN THE RIGHT ROUTE. SO FIRST I WANT TO JUST REFERENCE OUR DISPATCH. WE'VE WORKED TIRELESSLY WITH THEM. THEY'VE BEEN MORE THAN ACCOMMODATING. THEY'RE WILLING TO LEARN, THEY'RE WILLING TO ADJUST THEIR PRACTICES SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THE BEST PRODUCT TO THE CITIZENS OF MCKINNEY. SO WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A HOLD TIME. A HOLD TIME IS FROM THE TIME DISPATCH RECEIVES A CALL UNTIL THE TIME A UNIT GETS OUT THE DOOR. THAT'S DISPATCH IS GATHERING INFORMATION. THEY'RE MAKING A DECISION. THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH WHAT'S CALLED A PRO QA. AND EVENTUALLY THAT CALL GETS DROPPED AT A FIRE STATION. WHAT WE FOUND WAS OUR DISPATCH SYSTEM WAS LIMITING THEIR ABILITY TO GET THIS WHOLE TIME DOWN BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT'S SET UP BECAUSE OF OUR LIMITATIONS. WE COULDN'T GET OUT THE DOOR ANY FASTER THAN YOU COULD SEE. ABOUT A MINUTE, 20 MINUTE, 21. THAT'S ABOUT 21 SECONDS HIGHER THAN THE GOAL OF LESS THAN 60S. IN OCTOBER, WE FOUND A WORKAROUND. WE IMPLEMENTED WHAT WE CALL A QUICK DROP. WE RECOGNIZE FOUR DIFFERENT CALL TYPES. IT'D BE A CARDIAC ARREST, A CHEST PAIN, A SEIZURE, OR AN UNCONSCIOUS. WE WOULD DO WHAT'S CALLED A QUICK DROP. ONCE. ONCE DISPATCH RECOGNIZED THAT THEY'D PUSH A BUTTON, GET A UNIT ROLLING, THEN THEY'D COME BACK TO GATHER MORE INFORMATION. YOU CAN SEE WE TURNED OUR TIME FROM A MINUTE 42 IN SEPTEMBER TO 57 SECONDS IN OCTOBER. NOW, THIS IS JUST A WORKAROUND. THIS IS NOT A PERMANENT SOLUTION OR A SOLUTION. OVERALL, THIS JUST WORKS ON THOSE FOUR CALL TYPES.

BUT IMMEDIATELY WE STARTED SEEING RESULTS WHERE WE INCREASED CHANCES OF SURVIVABILITY BY 10%. WE SAVED ALMOST A MINUTE. THAT'S PRETTY GOOD NUMBERS. WITH THEIR HELP, THEIR WILLINGNESS TO MAKE SOME CHANGES. SO WE STILL HAVE MORE WORK TO DO. IT'S FINE. WE'RE GOING TO KEEP CHIPPING AWAY AT IT LITTLE BY LITTLE. WE'LL GET BETTER AT THIS. WE IMPLEMENTED WHAT WE CALL HIGH PERFORMANCE CPR. WE, THE RESUSCITATION ACADEMY UTILIZES WHAT'S CALLED A PIT CREW MODEL, WHERE EVERYBODY HAS A SPECIFIC ROLE WHEN IT COMES TO A CPR. THAT'S WHY WE SEND SO MANY PEOPLE ON A KNOWN CARDIAC ARREST. WE SEND THE ENGINES AND THE TRUCKS, WE SEND THE WHOLE CAVALRY OUT THERE. WE DO THAT BECAUSE IT TAKES A LOT OF PEOPLE. THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS. THEY ACTUALLY DO WHAT WE CALL A DANCE. IT'S NOT A LEGIT DANCE, BUT WHEN THEY HAVE TO ROTATE AROUND, THE GUYS ARE REALLY GOOD AT IT AND THEY DO IT IN A COORDINATED EFFORT. SO WE MINIMIZE OUR DOWNTIME. GOOD. SAM CHIEF TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GOOD SAM APP. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU SAW WFAA LAST NIGHT. WE SAW IT. THEY RAN A GREAT STORY ON THE GOOD SAM APP.

THIS WAS PURCHASED ON A UAC GRANT IN DECEMBER. FIRST IT WENT LIVE WITH OUR DISPATCH CENTER.

WHAT THIS IS, IS THIS ALLOWS CITIZENS, TRAINED CITIZENS WHO HAVE ARE WILLING TO PERFORM CARDIAC OR PERFORM CPR TO BE NOTIFIED AND GET ON THE CHEST AND START CHEST COMPRESSIONS.

THE WAY IT WORKS IS A CALL COMES IN AND TO DISPATCH. DISPATCH SENDS THAT NOTIFICATION OUT VIA

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AGAIN, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE ACCREDITATION OR A STATUS OF BEING A LIGHTHOUSE COMMUNITY.

WHAT IT IS, THOUGH, IS WHAT IT REPRESENTS IS THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING A STANDARD THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME FOR THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF LITTLE WAYS TO GO BEFORE WE APPLY FOR THIS, BUT WE'RE WELL ON OUR ON TRACK TO GET THERE. AND THAT'S THANKS TO Y'ALL TO HELPING US TO ACHIEVE DOUBT, TO BELIEVING IN THE PROGRAM, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, GETTING AEDS IN EVERY ONE OF THEIR COP CARS. THEY'RE ALWAYS ON SCENE BEFORE WE ARE, AND THEY BLOCK THE ENTRANCE. THEY BLOCK THE EXITS EVERY TIME. BUT WE'RE GRATEFUL THEY'RE THERE BECAUSE NOW THEY GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO CARRY ONE OF THESE AND MAKE A BIGGER IMPACT THAN WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY MAKING. SO WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. BEN, COULD YOU DEMONSTRATE THAT AED ON MICHAEL? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. COULD WE DO AN ACTUAL. BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD BENEFIT US ALL TO SEE IT WORK. I DO HAVE SOME TRAINING PADS, IF YOU'D LIKE. NO, NO. GIVE UP AFTER BEING TASED. NEED THE DEMONSTRATION. BEN. WHAT A WHAT A GREAT INITIATIVE. SO PROUD THAT OUR OUR CITY HAS TAKEN THIS ON OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND PARTICIPATION IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT'S REALLY IT'S ABOUT PEOPLE. AS YOU STATED IN THE BEGINNING. AND IT MAKES ME PROUD OUT OF THIS CITY. PROUD OF YOU GUYS. GREAT I AGREE. GREAT WORK BEN. IT JUST IT'S HUMBLING TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS AND YOU GUYS AMAZE US ALL THE TIME. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WILL BE JOINING THAT APP TODAY. SO PERFECT. I WILL TOO.

THANK YOU. VERY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANKS. 242278 RAYTHEON WRAP UP. DANA, I THINK YOU'RE.

[Raytheon Wrap Up]

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SO WE STARTED THIS IN ACTUALLY EARLY 2021, AND WE COMPLETED WE GAVE THEIR FINAL CEO IN SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR JUST A LITTLE BIT AGO. SO IT WAS A THREE AND A HALF YEAR PROJECT ACROSS BUILDING ENGINEERING AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS. WE ISSUED A TOTAL OF 48 PERMITS. WE DID A TOTAL OF 586 INSPECTIONS. AND JUST A LITTLE FUN FACT I LIKE TO THROW IN WE I HAVE OVER 1100 EMAILS BACK AND FORTH ON THIS PROJECT, SO YOU CAN TELL THE COMMUNICATION EFFORT THAT IT TAKES TO DO A PROJECT LIKE THIS. THIS PROJECT WAS INCENTIVIZED BY BOTH MCKINNEY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND THE CITY OF MCKINNEY THROUGH A CHAPTER 380 AGREEMENT, THE OVERALL VALUE OF CONSTRUCTION WAS $328 MILLION, AND IT'S JUST 100 UNDER 500 SQUARE, 500,000 SQUARE FOOT. AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT WE ENJOYED RECEIVING IN THIS PROJECT IS WHAT WE CALL THE WHYTE AVENUE CONNECTION ENTRANCE AND EXIT, WHICH GIVES OUR EMERGENCY PERSONNEL BETTER ACCESS TO THAT SIDE OF THE CAMPUS AND AS WELL RELIEVES CONGESTION ON BOTH WHYTE AVENUE AND COMMUNITY AVENUE. WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE HERE, BOTH FROM CCDC, WHO WAS THE PRIMARY REPRESENTATIVE FOR RAYTHEON. IN THIS WE HAVE MIKE ROSEMOND, WHO'S THE EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION WITH KDC. TRACY FRAZIER, WHO IS VICE PRESIDENT FOR MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS, AND PHILLIP SHARP, THE SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. CAN YOU ALL STAND AND BE RECOGNIZED? WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM PHILLIP IN JUST A MOMENT. MY PRIMARY CONTACT AT RAYTHEON WAS A GENTLEMAN NAMED RAY TREY SCHIAVONE. HE WAS THE SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER, AND I THINK HE WAS GUIDED BY KEITH PAVLIK, WHO'S WITH US TODAY FROM RAYTHEON. I HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO INTERACT WITH KEITH, BUT JUST SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE. KEITH AND CHIEF ELLENBERG DISCOVERED THEY WERE NEIGHBORS. SO SMALL WORLD. JUST WHILE WE WERE SITTING THERE, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE EFFORTS OF OUR FRIENDS, WHAT I CALL MY FRIENDS AT MEDC. MICHAEL KOSKI, PRESIDENT AND CEO MICHAEL TALLEY, THE SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT, MADISON CLARK, DIRECTOR OF BUSINESS RETENTION AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. LUKE GAJARI, MARKETING AND SOCIAL MEDIA MANAGER. AND DEANNA SMITHEY, THE OPERATIONS MANAGER. SO THESE STAFF MEMBERS WERE RECOGNIZED IN FRONT OF THEIR BOARD, WHICH WE THOUGHT WAS APPROPRIATE. BUT I'D CERTAINLY LIKE TO RECOGNIZE AND APPLAUD THEIR EFFORTS IN WORKING WITH ME, WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IN THESE PROJECTS. SO THANK YOU TO OUR MEDC PEOPLE. CAN YOU RISE AND. AND THEN LASTLY, I THINK PHILLIP'S GOING TO SAY A FEW WORDS AND THEN KEITH IS ALSO GOING TO SAY A FEW WORDS. BUT I REALLY WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE FROM ALL DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY THAT WORK HARD TO MAKE THESE PROJECTS HAPPEN. I'M THE LUCKY ONE THAT GETS TO STAND AND PRESENT THIS TO YOU TODAY, BUT I'M ONLY ONE OF, AGAIN, HUNDREDS THAT WORK TO MAKE THESE THINGS HAPPEN. AND SO THEY OFTEN DON'T GET RECOGNIZED. SO I'D LIKE TO DO THAT HERE. GREAT JOB. AND THEY HAVE SEVERAL OF THOSE STAFF MEMBERS HAVE ALSO RECEIVED COINS AS WELL. SO PHILIP, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP. AND WHILE HE DOES THAT, I AM GOING TO GIVE THESE COINS TO YOU ALL. THANKS. THANKS, DANA. YEAH, JUST I'M HERE TO BASICALLY JUST SAY THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY AND TO EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM AND NOT IN THIS ROOM. IT IT REALLY WAS A MONUMENTAL TASK THAT WE HAD TO COMPLETE A VERY COMPLEX PROJECT. A LOT OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE INVOLVED AND, YOU KNOW, CITY OF MCKINNEY, STARTING WITH

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AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY THEY TOOK THAT INITIATIVE. I SEE THAT WITH EVERYBODY WE WORKED WITH, WITH THE CITY. IT WAS JUST GREAT TO WORK HERE. WE WORK WITH CITIES ALL OVER, YOU KNOW, COAST TO COAST TO COAST, ESPECIALLY IN NORTH TEXAS. BUT IT'S A SPECIAL FEELING HERE IN MCKINNEY AND WE APPRECIATE IT. THESE COINS THAT DANA HANDED OUT, JUST A REAL SMALL TOKEN OF THE FIVE KEY ENTITIES THAT THAT BROUGHT THIS TOGETHER. AND OBVIOUSLY CITY OF MCKINNEY IS RIGHT THERE, ONE OF THOSE FIVE. SO JUST REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. OBVIOUSLY WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT YOU. SO KEITH, COME ON UP KEITH. THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL PEOPLE THAT WE IDENTIFIED AS BEING HELPFUL IN THIS PROJECT TO RECEIVE A COIN. AND WE'D LIKE TO MENTION THEM AS WELL. MR. MARK HAUSER AND MR. ALAN LATHAM, OUR CITY ATTORNEYS, AS WELL AS OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, STEVE TILTON, KIM FLOM, BARRY SHELTON, THEY WILL ALL RECEIVE COINS. AND AS WELL, CHANCE MILLER IN OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT. SO JUST WANT TO MENTION THOSE PEOPLE AS WELL.

AND NOW I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE KEITH PAVLIK WITH RAYTHEON. THANK YOU. THANKS, DANA. THANKS, PHIL. AFTERNOON, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF. THE RTX MCKINNEY EXPANSION PROJECT WAS A TREMENDOUS UNDERTAKING. WE WOULD NOT BE HERE TODAY WITHOUT THE INCREDIBLE SUPPORT AND COLLABORATION WE RECEIVED FROM THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. DANA HAD MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT AGO THAT THERE WAS OVER 1100 EMAILS EXCHANGED ON THIS PROJECT ALONE.

THIS UNDERSCORES THE SCOPE AND COMPLEXITY OF WHAT WE ACCOMPLISHED TOGETHER FROM THE OUTSET. THE DEPLOYMENT OF MANPOWER WAS SIGNIFICANT. WE USE A SYSTEM CALLED PROCORE TO TRACK DOCUMENTS, AND AT ITS PEAK, WE HAD MORE THAN 165 ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS AND PROJECT MANAGERS ACTIVELY ENGAGED AND CONTRIBUTING THEIR EXPERTISE OUT IN THE FIELD AND CONSTRUCTION.

WE LOGGED JUST SHY OF 1 MILLION MAN HOURS. PERHAPS EVEN MORE IMPRESSIVE IS OUR SAFETY RECORD SOMETHING OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE AT RTX? OUR INCIDENT RATE WAS LESS THAN HALF THE INDUSTRY STANDARD, WHICH IS A TRUE TESTAMENT TO THE DEDICATION AND PROFESSIONALISM OF THE MEN AND WOMEN WORKING ON THE PROJECT. THE COMMITMENT TO THE PROJECT WAS EVIDENT FROM DAY ONE. MANY INDIVIDUALS WORKED ON THIS PROJECT FOR OVER A YEAR, OFTEN PUTTING IN NIGHTS WEEKENDS TO ENSURE SUCCESS. RECOGNIZING THIS EXCEPTIONAL EFFORT, RTX, KDC, AND BRASFIELD AND GORRIE DECIDED TO ADOPT A TRADITION FROM THE ARMED SERVICES AND PRESENT A TOKEN OF APPRECIATION TO THOSE WHO PLAYED KEY ROLES. WE CHOSE TO HONOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WITH THOSE CHALLENGE COINS THAT YOU RECEIVED. THE CHALLENGE COINS HAVE A LONG HISTORY IN MILITARY, WHERE THEY WERE ORIGINALLY USED TO BUILD CAMARADERIE, AND LATER GIVEN TO RECOGNIZE THOSE WHO WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND. TODAY, THEY ARE VALUED AT HIGHLY VALUED AS A SYMBOL OF PRIDE AND ACCOMPLISHMENT. THE COINS THAT WE'VE CREATED FOR THE APEX EXPANSION FEATURE AN IMAGE OF THE BUILDING ON ONE SIDE, ALONG WITH THE LOGOS OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN THE PROJECT'S SUCCESS. ON THE OTHER RTX, KDC, CORGAN, ARCHITECTS, BRASFIELD AND GORRIE, AND OF COURSE, THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. TODAY, WE ARE HONORED TO PRESENT THESE CHALLENGE COINS TO THE MAYOR, THE CITY MANAGER, AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AS A TOKEN OF OUR SINCERE APPRECIATION FOR THE CITY'S UNWAVERING SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, THE FINANCIAL BACKING FROM THE CITY AND MCKINNEY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION WERE CRITICAL IN MOVING THIS PROJECT FORWARD AND ASSURING ITS SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION AT OUR MCKINNEY CAMPUS. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPECIFICALLY RECOGNIZE THE CITY STAFF MEMBERS WHO PLAYED SUCH A PIVOTAL ROLE IN MAKING THE PROJECT A SUCCESS. WE WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE

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LASTLY, WE MUST OFFER OUR DEEPEST THANKS TO DANA. DANA SERVED AS A CRUCIAL LINK BETWEEN THE PROJECT TEAM AND THE CITY. HER EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE OF THE PERMITTING AND INSPECTION PROCESSES, COMBINED WITH HER WILLINGNESS TO ASSIST AT EVERY TURN, HELPED KEEP THE PROJECT ON TRACK. DANA'S TIRELESS EFFORTS AND COMMITMENTS WERE ESSENTIAL IN MOVING THE PROJECT FORWARD, AND WE ARE TRULY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS. SO ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY FOR YOUR SUPPORT, DEDICATION AND COLLABORATION. IT'S BECAUSE OF ALL OF YOU THAT WE WERE ABLE TO BRING THIS PROJECT TO FRUITION. WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO GROW AND BUILD ON OUR PARTNERSHIP. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO CONCLUDE WITH, THERE'S TWO FAVORITE TIMES IN A PROJECT THAT I LOVE. I LOVE THE BEGINNING. PAUL AND I WERE AT A GROUNDBREAKING THIS MORNING, SO I LOVE THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT AND I LOVE THE END. AND SOME I KNOW YOU MIGHT THINK, YOU KNOW, OH GOD, THAT'S OVER. NO, IT'S NOT IT AT ALL. TO ME, THE END, WHETHER YOU'RE A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER OR A LARGE CORPORATION LIKE RAYTHEON, IT'S THE REALIZATION OF THAT DREAM OR IT'S THE CULMINATION OF RAYTHEON'S VISION FOR THEIR FUTURE. AND THAT'S INCREDIBLY EXCITING TO ME. SO I CALL MYSELF A DREAM MAKER CONTRIBUTOR SOMETIMES, AND I LOVE THAT. SO THANK YOU ALL. I I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY, BUT I JUST HAVE A COMMENT. OKAY, DANA, YOU KNOW, IN MY INDUSTRY OUTSIDE BEING MAYOR, I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE CITY, ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. I SEE MICHAEL QUINT HERE. I CERTAINLY WORK WITH BUILDING DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, AND WE TRULY HAVE JUST TREMENDOUS TALENT HERE IN THE CITY. AND YOU I KNOW FIRSTHAND HOW SIGNIFICANT AND CRUCIAL A ROLE YOU PLAY IN, IN MANY OF THESE PROJECTS. AND AS STATED BY KEITH, YOU WERE YOU WERE A HUGE ASSET IN THIS ONE. AND THERE'S NO DOUBT AND I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME. IT'S NOT JUST MY EXPERIENCE. I HEAR IT FROM OTHER PEOPLE THAT THAT CALL AND JUST REACH OUT WANTING TO. CERTAINLY, AGAIN, THEY TALK ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND THEN THEY ALWAYS SINGLE YOU OUT AS WELL AND TALK ABOUT HOW IN THEIR MIND, YOU LITERALLY SAVED YOU. YOU SAVED THEM IN THEIR MIND. OFTEN THINGS THAT THEY YOU HELP THEM NAVIGATE, THINGS THAT THEY JUST WERE NOT ABLE TO NAVIGATE ON THEIR OWN. SO I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME. SO THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU, SIR. AND I'M HUMBLED TRULY BY THOSE COMMENTS. I THINK THAT'S IT. AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, DANA. I'M GOING TO SAY I'M GOING TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT JORGE SAID. I'M NOT IN THE DEVELOPMENT WORLD, BUT I WILL INDICT. AFTER THREE YEARS IN THIS JOB. I WILL INDICT DEVELOPERS SOMETIMES A FUSSY BUNCH, SOMETIMES. BUT MAN, YOU ARE YOU ARE POPULAR WITH THEM AND YOU ARE A REMARKABLE ASSET TO THIS CITY. AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT BEFORE I WAS UP HERE, I WAS ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD, AND THIS PROJECT CAME TO US WHEN I WAS ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD. AND ALL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS NOT EQUAL. SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS, AND THIS ONE WAS MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS. AND THE WAY I JUDGE IT IS, AND I WAS AT FABIAN MIDDLE SCHOOL TODAY AND MY GIRLS WENT THERE. THE LAST ONE FINISHED IN OH NINE. AND I TALKED TO THEM. THEY SAID, WHY DO YOU WANT TO BE ON THE CITY COUNCIL? AND I SAID, RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOUR MOM OR DAD WORK IN MCKINNEY. A BUNCH OF HANDS WENT UP. WHEN MY KIDS WERE THERE, THEIR HANDS WOULD GO UP. NOT TOO MANY OTHERS, BUT THIS KIND OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GETS SOME OF THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST IN THE COUNTRY, AND IT IS NOT LOST ON EVERY OTHER CITY THAT RAYTHEON DID BUSINESS IN THAT MCKINNEY AND MCKINNEY, TEXAS WON THIS.

HAVING MOMS AND DADS WHO CAN WORK HERE, WHO HAVE GREAT JOBS, GREAT EDUCATIONS, AND ARE GREAT ASSETS TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO I WANT TO THANK YOU, AND I WANT TO THANK ALL THE REST OF THE

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THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, DANA. THANK YOU DANA. ALL RIGHT. ITEM TWO FOR 2279 PROCLAMATION

[Proclamation for Tourism Friendly Community Day]

ALL RIGHT. I DON'T BELIEVE ANYONE HAS SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. SO WE'LL MOVE TO DISCUSS ANY AGENDA ITEMS COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS PRIOR TO THIS EVENING. SEEING NONE WE'LL

[Presentation of the Fiscal Year 2024 Strategic End of Year Report]

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PRIORITY ONE CALLS AVERAGE ABOUT 30S ABOVE THE SIX MINUTES GOAL DUE TO TRAFFIC DENSITY, RAPID RESIDENTIAL GROWTH, AND ONGOING CONSTRUCTION IN SEVERAL AREAS OF THE CITY. LASTLY, TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW FROM ECONOMIC GROWTH AND FINANCIALLY SOUND GOVERNMENT, AN UPDATE TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING POLICIES AND PROCEDURES WAS DELAYED UNTIL THE NEW DIRECTOR WAS HIRED AND IS EXPECTED TO COMPLETE SECOND QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 25. TO ENSURE THE CITY RECEIVES THE LOWEST INTEREST RATES POSSIBLE, FINANCIAL SERVICES WAS ABLE TO MAINTAIN A TRIPLE A OR AA+ CREDIT RATING AND AIR IMPLEMENTED COST CONTAINMENT STRATEGIES FOR THE CITY'S HEALTH PLAN TO KEEP INCREASES BELOW MARKET TRENDS. IN ADDITION TO SHARING THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE TO SUPPORT YOUR STRATEGIC GOALS FOR THE CITY, WE ALSO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED FOR EXCELLENCE IN SEVERAL AREAS. THE SLIDE HAS EXAMPLES OF STAFF WHO RECEIVED HIGHER LEVEL RECOGNITIONS. ALICIA HOLMBERG AND MARIE WOODARD FROM VISIT MCKINNEY BOTH

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THIS IS CURRENTLY IN IMPLEMENTATION PHASES AND IS EXPECTED TO COMPLETE ABOUT LATE FEBRUARY OF 2025. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I STAND HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION. ALL RIGHT. 242281

[Consider/Discuss the Proposed Tax Exemption Scorecard]

MARGARET LEE, OUR HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, AND I WILL BE TALKING ABOUT A WAY WE CAN REVIEW TAX EXEMPTION FOR HOUSING. THIS IS NOT A NEW TOPIC. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS. WE'VE BROUGHT IT UP EVERY TIME WE'VE GIVEN YOU A HOUSING UPDATE FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, BUT IT'S ONE THAT'S AT THE FOREFRONT RIGHT NOW, GIVEN A CLUSTER OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN BEFORE YOU THAT THE MHA IS CURRENTLY REVIEWING, I'M GOING TO DO A LITTLE OVERVIEW AND FOUNDATION BUILDING. MARGARET IS GOING TO GO INTO THE DETAILS OF THE PROPOSED METHODOLOGY. SO I'M GOING TO BACK UP QUITE A BIT IN JUST A VERY, VERY QUICK REFRESHER. HOUSING IS AND CONTINUES TO BE A NATIONAL ISSUE. IT IS AN ISSUE IN MCKINNEY. WE ARE LUCKY IN MCKINNEY THAT WE HAD ROOT POLICY DUE A HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT SPECIFIC FOR OUR NEEDS. SO WE KNOW THAT IN MCKINNEY, IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER THINGS GOING ON, WE HAVE A NEED FOR AFFORDABLE RENTALS. STARTER HOMES, INCREASED OWNERSHIP, DIVERSITY, AND THEN STRATEGIC REDEVELOPMENT AND CONDITION IMPROVEMENTS. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON ALL OF THESE. THE TAX EXEMPTION COMPONENT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES THAT FIRST BULLET POINT, WHICH IS THOSE ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE RENTALS. WHEN ROOT POLICY DID THE STUDY FOR US IN 2021, WE HAD A GAP OF 3700 UNITS AT THAT PRICE POINT. WE ASKED THEM TO REFRESH THE DATA IN 2023, THAT GAP GREW BY 40% TO 5145. SO WHEN I SAY 35,000 AND THE HOUSING WORLD, WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT THAT AS 30%. AMI ALSO KNOWN AS AREA MEDIAN INCOME. THIS SLIDE GIVES YOU KIND OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS OR THE SALARY

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BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE PROCESS WE'VE BEEN USING WITH THIS RFQ MEANS WE SOMETIMES MISS OPPORTUNITIES. WE SET OUT AN RFQ IN A POINT IN TIME SAYING, BRING US WHAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW, AND THAT MEANS WE CAN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PROJECTS THAT MIGHT COME UP FOR SALE OR BE RIPE FOR DEVELOPMENT AT A GIVEN TIME. AND IN THE PAST, COUNCIL HAS ASKED US ABOUT PURSUING AN OPEN RFQ.

WE'RE JUST BRINGING EVERY PROJECT THAT HAS INTEREST TO THE COUNCIL FOR REVIEW. RECENTLY, IN THE PROJECTS THAT YOU'VE SEEN RECENTLY, MHA HAS HAD SUCCESS IN GETTING THOSE 30% UNITS IN THE PROJECT. WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT SUCCESS IN THE PAST, AND THE DEVELOPMENT CONSULTANT FOR MHA HAS NOTED IT'S THE ONLY CITY HE'S WORKED IN THAT'S BEEN ABLE TO SECURE 30% UNITS AS PART OF THOSE PROJECTS. THE OTHER THING TO NOTE IS THAT ALL OF THE ENTITIES PFC, MHA, MHC, WE ALL HAVE PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANTS THAT HELP US REVIEW THESE PROJECTS. NOW THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT. WE USE A DIFFERENT ONE FOR MFK. MHA USES A DIFFERENT ONE, AND WE USE SOMEONE ELSE FOR PFC, BUT THEY ARE THE ONES WHO REVIEW THE PERFORMANCE, RUN THE CALCULATIONS TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS A PUBLIC BENEFIT TO ANY PROJECT THAT IS COMING FORWARD.

WHAT LEVEL OF PUBLIC BENEFIT IS ACCEPTABLE IS SOMETHING THAT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL, SO WE'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT. SO WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IT TODAY? RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS WE'VE HAD A PACKED WORK SESSION OF ALL KINDS OF THINGS. AS YOU'VE SEEN, THE TAX EXEMPTION REQUESTS HAVE DRAMATICALLY INCREASED, ESPECIALLY OVER THE PAST YEAR. WE KNOW THAT THE RFQ PROCESS THAT WE'RE USING RIGHT NOW ISN'T THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO GET OUR WORK DONE. AND AS MENTIONED, THE THREE ENTITIES THAT DO THIS, WE'RE ALL OPERATING UNDER SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT SETS OF RULES, BUT WE ALL WANT TO DO THE BEST FOR MCKINNEY. SO IS THERE A WAY TO PULL THAT ALL TOGETHER? WHEN PFC BECAME VERY POPULAR, THERE WAS SOME RESEARCH DONE THAT SHOWED THAT NOT ALL PFC

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THIS CHART SHOWS YOU THAT PRIOR TO 2021, IT WAS REALLY MHA THAT WAS LIVING IN THE WORLD OF TAX EXEMPTION THROUGH THE PROJECTS THEY HAD ON THE GROUND. IN 2021, THE MFK ISSUED THEIR FIRST RFQ THAT YIELDED THE INDEPENDENCE PROJECT. TWO PROJECTS IN 2022, TWO PROJECTS IN 2023 AND THEN IN 2024. SEVERAL PROJECTS HAVE COME FORWARD TO MHA NOW. THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY PROVIDED LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR MAGNOLIA RANCH AND KINSTON. JEFFERSON WILMOTH AND JEFFERSON TERRY ARE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, AND THE MHA BOARD TALKED ABOUT THE COTTON MILL PROPOSAL TODAY AT THEIR MEETING, WHICH I BELIEVE IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THESE PROJECTS. I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO A TON OF DETAIL HERE, BUT HERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO YOU TO NOTE BY THIS DATA. SO FIRST, NOTE THE NUMBER OF UNITS BEFORE 2023. WE HAD ABOUT 920 UNITS TOTAL THAT WERE AFFORDABLE BASED ON TAX EXEMPTION. WE'RE AT THAT IF NOT MORE FOR 2024. SO THAT'S A GREAT THING. WE'RE ADDING THE UNITS WE NEED TO ADD, BUT IT ALSO MEANS WE'RE GIVING UP. THE CITY IS GIVING UP PROPERTY TAXES. NOW THAT IS NOT A 100% GIVE ON THE CITY SIDE BECAUSE FOR MFK, FUNDS WILL COME BACK IN TO SUPPORT HOUSING GOALS. EVEN MHA FUNDS WILL COME IN. ONE THING TO NOTE WITH MHR IN PARTICULAR AND I'LL GO BACK TO THIS SLIDE. THEY'VE BEEN MANAGING MERRITT AND NEWSOME FOR SOME TIME, AND THEY'RE NOW IN THE PROCESS OF REDEVELOPING AND REBUILDING THROCKMORTON AND MURRY. THE COST OF MANAGING MULTIFAMILY, PARTICULARLY IN INSURANCE, ETC, CONTINUES TO GO UP. IT HAS MADE IT VERY HARD FOR THEM TO MAINTAIN THE AFFORDABILITY THAT THEY WANT TO MAINTAIN IN THOSE PROJECTS. SO THESE AVENUES, THESE TAX EXEMPTION PROJECTS THEY'RE REVIEWING ALSO PROVIDE A FUNDING SOURCE FOR THEM TO ENSURE THAT THE FOLKS WHO LIVE IN MERRITT AND NEWSOME CAN CONTINUE TO LIVE THERE. FINALLY, NOT ALL PROJECTS ARE THE SAME. THEY ALL LOOK, THEY ALL JUST HAVE TITLES ON A LIST. BUT THESE ARE ALL THAT CAN BE VERY DIFFERENT. SO MAGNOLIA RANCH WAS AN EXISTING OLDER COMPLEX IN MCKINNEY, AND THE DEVELOPER IS USING THE TAX EXEMPTION TO REHAB UNITS AND PROVIDE AFFORDABILITY AT THE 30 AND 60 LEVEL. THE KINSTON IS AN ACQUISITION OF A PROPERTY THAT WAS NOT THAT OLD, BUT PROVIDES AFFORDABILITY IN AN AREA OF MCKINNEY. WE DON'T REALLY HAVE IT. AND THEN THE FOLLOWING THREE JEFFERSON, THE TWO JEFFERSON'S AND COTTON MILLS ARE NEW BUILD, SO THEY'RE COMPLICATED. THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT RULES. THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTS. WHAT DO WE DO TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE? TO FIGURE THIS OUT, WE HAVE DEVELOPED A SCORECARD APPROACH THAT AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO DETAIL. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY. WE'VE WORKED WITH MHR ON THIS. AND MFK AND PFC OF COURSE ARE CITY STAFF. SO THAT'S AN EASY ONE. BUT HERE'S GENERALLY HOW IT WORKS. A DEVELOPER WOULD SUBMIT A PROPOSAL TO WHOEVER THEY WANTED TO PROPOSE TO, WHETHER IT BE PFC, MFK OR MHA. THEY WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MATERIAL. WE WOULD WORK THAT THROUGH A SCORECARD AS STAFF. THEY WOULD GET DIFFERENT POINTS FOR DIFFERENT FACTORS. THESE ARE CATEGORIES THAT ARE UNIQUE TO MCKINNEY. FOR EXAMPLE, WE KNOW THAT THE REHAB OF EXISTING UNITS IS MORE VALUABLE TO US THAN A NEW BUILD OUT OF THE GROUND BECAUSE IT TAKES STOCK WE HAVE THAT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED AND ALSO MAINTAINS AFFORDABILITY THAT WILL SCORE HIGHER THAN A NEW BUILD OUT OF THE GROUND. WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF AFFORDABILITY AND KIND OF EAST MCKINNEY, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT IN NORTHWEST MCKINNEY. A PROJECT THAT'S PROPOSED IN NORTHWEST MCKINNEY WILL SCORE HIGHER. AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A MILLION OF THESE PROJECTS COME ALL AT ONE TIME. THAT'S A BURDEN TO OUR TAX SYSTEM. SO THE MORE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN A YEAR, THE LOWER YOU WILL SCORE, YOU WILL GET A LOWER SCORE OR POSSIBLY EVEN A NEGATIVE SCORE. IF WE ALREADY HAVE PROJECTS IN THE PIPELINE FOR THAT CALENDAR YEAR. IF YOU SCORE TEN OR HIGHER, YOU WILL BE INVITED TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER LAYER OF ANALYSIS. AND AT THIS POINT, IT WILL BE WHAT WE CALL A UNIFIED ANALYSIS, MEANING WE'RE GOING TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH WHAT MHA IS DOING. MFK AND PFC IS RELATED TO HOW WE CALCULATE PUBLIC BENEFIT, HOW WE CALCULATE RENT, SAVINGS, ETC. STAFF WILL COMPILE THAT INTO A REPORT, A PRESENTATION, ETC. AND IT WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD FOR

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THE SCORECARD, AS KIM MENTIONED, WOULD PROVIDE A UNIFORM WAY OF EVALUATING PROJECTS ACROSS ALL GRANTING ENTITIES AND ALLOW US TO COMPARE PROJECTS MORE EASILY. THE SCORECARD, IF ADOPTED, COULD BE INTEGRATED INTO OUR RFQ PROCESS TO PROVIDE DEVELOPERS WITH A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF OUR MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS IN SEEKING AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS, AND POTENTIALLY ALSO ENCOURAGE THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. SO POTENTIALLY DEEPER AFFORDABILITY LEVELS OR HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES USING THE UNIFORM SCORECARD WOULD ALSO PROVIDE US WITH A MORE CONSISTENT APPROACH TOWARDS DATA COLLECTION AND REPORTING, SO THAT WE CAN ANALYZE OUR PROGRESS AND COMPARE PROJECTS, AS KIM MENTIONED. SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE SCORECARD IS DEVELOPED WITH SEVEN DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, AND I'LL GO INTO MORE DETAILS ABOUT IT IN A MINUTE. BUT AFFORDABILITY, HOUSING TYPE, PUBLIC BENEFIT LOCATION, PUBLIC TYPE OR PROJECT TYPE, THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE APPROVED FOR THAT YEAR AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF TAX DOLLARS BEING EXEMPTED FOR THAT YEAR. SO THE SCORECARD WOULD ALSO HELP SCREEN OUT PROJECTS THAT DON'T MEET THOSE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS AND HELP LIMIT THE POTENTIAL NUMBER OF TAX EXEMPTION PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE PER YEAR, SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO ALSO EVALUATE AND REVIEW OUR PROCESS AND ADOPT REVISIONS AS NEEDED. SO CURRENTLY, EACH GRANTING ENTITY CONTRACTS WITH DIFFERENT CONSULTANTS TO PROVIDE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS FOR THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS. HOWEVER, AS KIM MENTIONED, THOSE ASSUMPTIONS CAN VARY. SO THE VACANCY RATES, THE DIFFERENT ASSUMPTIONS THAT GO INTO THE RENT SAVINGS. ALL OF THOSE CAN BE CALCULATED DIFFERENTLY FROM ONE CONSULTANT TO ANOTHER. SO THEREFORE, IN ADDITION TO THE SCORECARD, WE WOULD ALSO PROVIDE A PROPOSED A UNIFIED APPROACH TO PROVIDING MORE IN-DEPTH QUANTITATIVE ANALYSIS WHERE WE WOULD USE EITHER THE SAME CONSULTANT ACROSS ALL THREE ENTITIES OR DEVELOP A STANDARD METHODOLOGY FOR CALCULATING ALL OF THESE. THESE FACTORS, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, PART OF THESE SCORECARD REVIEW COULD ALSO INCORPORATE QUALITATIVE CONSIDERATIONS SUCH AS THE TYPE OF AMENITIES AND SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED, AND ALSO SOME OTHER FACTORS, SUCH AS OTHER PROJECTS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA THAT MIGHT ALSO INFLUENCE THE GRANTING ENTITY'S DECISION TO SUPPORT A PROJECT. SO HERE'S A MORE IN-DEPTH VISUAL INTERPRETATION OF WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO THE DEVELOPER WOULD SUBMIT THEIR PROPOSAL TO THE ENTITY OF THEIR CHOOSING, WHETHER THAT BE THE MHA OR THE MHC. EACH ENTITY WILL EVALUATE THE PROPOSALS USING THE SAME SCORECARD AND METHODOLOGY, AND THEN MOVE FORWARD TO THEIR RESPECTIVE BOARDS FOR CONSIDERATION. THE BOARD OR COMMITTEE WOULD THEN DETERMINE IF THE PROPOSAL SHOULD BE PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. STAFF WOULD THEN PRESENT THE PROPOSAL, ALONG WITH THE SCORECARD RESULTS FOR THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION. THAT WAY WE CAN HELP YOU COMPARE THEM TO OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND THEN, BASED ON THE DECISIONS FROM THE COUNCIL, EACH GRANTING ENTITY WILL BE PRESENTED WITH THAT DECISION AS WELL AS A MORE DETAILED POST SCORECARD ANALYSIS. AND THE BOARD OR COMMITTEE WILL THEN DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT OR NOT. SO THIS IS WHAT THE PROPOSED SCORECARD LOOKS LIKE. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE SMALL PRINT, BUT OVERALL WHAT WE'VE BROKEN IT DOWN TO WAS DIFFERENT POINTS FOR DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. SO FOR AFFORDABILITY THE MINIMUM IS 50% OF TOTAL UNITS AT 80% AMI. SO FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT A PROJECT WOULD ONLY SCORE ONE POINT. AND IF A PROJECT THEN ALSO INCORPORATES 30%, THEN THAT WOULD GET THE MAXIMUM POINTS OF FOUR. SO THIS AGAIN IS TO TRY TO DEMONSTRATE A PREFERENCE FOR PROJECTS THAT HAVE DEEPER AFFORDABILITY. AND THEN ALONG THE SAME VEIN, FOR HOUSING TYPES, WE'VE SEEN THAT MOST OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TYPES THAT WE'VE SEEN ARE MULTIFAMILY AND RENTAL. AND SO IF THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF GETTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME OWNERSHIP, THOSE POINTS ARE AWARDED FOR PROJECTS WITH THAT. AND THEN THE PUBLIC

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AND THEN, AS KIM MENTIONED, WE DON'T SEE A LOT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE NORTHWEST. SO PUTTING FOUR POINTS FOR PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE LOCATED THERE AND THEN ONE POINT FOR PROJECTS LOCATED IN THE EAST SIDE, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE LOCATED IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO OTHER AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS. AND SO THE GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATIONS WE USED WAS BASED OFF OF USING THE THREE, 80 AND 75, SINCE THEY'RE EASILY IDENTIFIABLE GEOGRAPHICAL DELINEATORS. AND THEN, AS KIM MENTIONED, WITH THE PROJECT TYPES, REHAB PROJECTS TEND TO HAVE A DOUBLE BENEFIT BECAUSE IT IS AN EXISTING OLDER BUILDING THAT IS THEN ALSO BEING RENOVATED. AND SO PROJECTS LIKE THOSE WOULD BE PROVIDED MORE POINTS THAN NEW BUILDS. AND THEN TO TRY TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS AND THE AMOUNT OF TAX EXEMPTIONS THAT ARE APPROVED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, WE'VE ESTABLISHED A BASELINE OF TWO PROJECTS PER YEAR AS OF RIGHT NOW, AND IF THERE ARE MORE THAN TWO PROJECTS, THEN WE START TO PROVIDE NEGATIVE POINTS SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO BRING THOSE BACK DOWN. AND FOR THE TOTAL TAX EXEMPTIONS, WE'RE LOOKING AT A 20 MILLION THRESHOLD BEFORE WE START PROVIDING NEGATIVE POINTS. AND AS KIM MENTIONED, THE MINIMUM SCORE THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED RIGHT NOW IS A SCORE OF TEN. SO IF YOUR PROJECT SCORE IS TEN OR HIGHER, THEN IT WILL BE TAKEN TO THE ASSOCIATED BOARD OR COMMITTEE FOR REVIEW AND THEN PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL IF IT WAS APPROVED. AND THEN AGAIN BACK TO THE BORDER COMMISSION, DEPENDING ON THEIR APPROVAL. AND SO TONIGHT WE'RE REQUESTING COUNCIL'S DIRECTION REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE UNIFIED SCORECARD. IF THE COUNCIL AGREES WITH THIS APPROACH, STAFF WILL COLLABORATE WITH THE HOUSING PARTNERS TO DEVELOP A POLICY AND REVIEW STANDARDS, AND THE POLICY WILL BE PRESENTED TO EACH OF THE GRANTING ENTITIES FOR REVIEW AND ADOPTION, AND THEN THE SCORECARD, REVIEW AND SUBSEQUENT REPORTING WILL BE IMPLEMENTED IN EARLY 2025. AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO GO BACK TO THE SLIDE. THE 2024 TAX EXEMPTION SLIDE.

AND IF YOU COULD JUST SPEND A JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES GOING THROUGH WHAT THAT MEANS, SPECIFICALLY, AS YOU GET TOWARDS THE END OF THE CHART RENT SAVINGS, MHA MHR BENEFIT PUBLIC BENEFIT FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T YOU KNOW, THEY LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS AND IT'S HARD TO MAYBE IDENTIFY WHAT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING THEM THERE. SURE. SO THE FIRST COLUMN IS THE PROJECT. THE SECOND COLUMN IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OF THOSE HOUSING PROJECTS.

AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE AFFORDABILITY BREAKDOWN. SO THE NUMBER OF 3060, 80 AND MARKET RATE UNITS FOLLOWED BY THAT WE HAVE THE TOTAL TAX BENEFIT, WHICH IS THE AMOUNT OF TAX EXEMPTION THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED TO THOSE PROJECTS. AND THIS IS OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD. THAT'S THE TAXES THEY WILL NOT PAY. CORRECT. NO I UNDERSTAND. I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT ARE JUST LOOKING AT THIS. YES. AND THEN THE RENT SAVINGS IS THE AMOUNT OF SAVINGS THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE AT 30% AMI, HOW MUCH ARE YOU ACTUALLY SAVING IN RENT BY BEING AFFORDED OR BEING OFFERED THIS UNIT AT A LOWER RATE. AND SO THAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT AGAIN, ALSO OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD. AND THEN THE MHA BENEFIT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF FUNDS OR REVENUE THAT THE ENTITIES ARE RECEIVING. AND SO AS I MENTIONED, MHA RECEIVES A LEASE PAYMENT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. THEY ALSO RECEIVE CERTAIN FEES, PROFESSIONAL FEES FOR THEIR CONSULTANTS. AND SO THIS IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT THEY WOULD BE RECEIVING FOR THAT PROJECT. AND THEN THE PUBLIC BENEFIT IS THE SUM OF THE RENT SAVINGS AND THE MHA BENEFIT HERE. AND THEN THE PUBLIC BENEFIT LESS TAX BENEFIT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PUBLIC BENEFIT AND THE TOTAL TAX BENEFIT. SO SUBTRACTING THE SECOND TO LAST COLUMN WITH THE TAX BENEFIT, WHICH IS THE RED COLUMN. THANK YOU. HERE'S MY DIFFICULTY WITH THIS THAT WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME AND BANDWIDTH TRYING TO REDUCE THE TAX RATE FOR OUR CITIZENS, AND THIS DOESN'T HELP. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TAKING TWO KINDS OF TAX AWAY FROM THE BROAD TAX BASE. WE'RE TAKING SALES TAXES AWAY ON THE MATERIALS USED TO BUILD THESE PROJECTS, REHAB THEM, AND WE'RE TAKING PROPERTY TAXES AWAY, WHICH OTHERWISE WOULD GO TO POLICE, ROADS,

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THEY'RE SAVING IT ON THE COLLEGE, WHICH IS ABOUT $0.08 PER HUNDRED. AND AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, WHICH IS ABOUT $0.15 PER 100. NOW GOD BLESS THE COUNTY. GOD BLESS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND GOD BLESS THE COLLEGE. I DON'T CARE ABOUT GIVING UP THEIR TAX BASE. I CARE ABOUT THE CITY OF MCKINNEY TAX BASE, I REALLY DO. SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS, TO THE EXTENT WE'RE DOING ANY OF THESE 80% AMI THINGS, THAT WE'RE GETTING A PILOT PAYMENT FROM THESE FOLKS SO THAT THERE IS SOME LIFT GOING ON THERE, AND IT MAY NOT BE A PILOT PAYMENT THAT OFFSETS 100% OF OUR CITY TAXES, BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO OFFSET THE COST OF COPS, ROADS AND PARKS. BECAUSE MAN, THESE THINGS ARE COMING AT US HOT AND HEAVY RIGHT NOW. AND I GET THERE'S SOME BENEFIT, BUT I JUST DON'T HAVE ANY APPETITE AT ALL FOR ANY MORE OF THESE 80% AMI UNITS COMING IN HERE AND ERODING OUR TAX BASE. SO THAT'S NOT A QUESTION. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER IT. THANK YOU. SO WOULD YOU. SO RESPOND TO THAT. GIVE US GIVE US ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE ON THAT. AND LET ME JUST SAY THIS I'D LIKE IT TO BE IN THE SCORECARD. ARE THEY WILLING TO GIVE US A PILOT PAYMENT. THAT'S A THAT'S A GREAT IT'S A MEAT ON THE BONE FOR YOU. I'D LIKE TO BE IN THE TO BE IN THE SCORECARD.

SO JUST FROM THE STANDPOINT OF YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN DOING AN 80% PROJECT, FULLY 80% PROJECT, WHICH I'M NOT EITHER. AND THAT'S I WAS AGAINST THE FIRST JEFFERSON DEAL BECAUSE OF THAT. THESE DO HAVE CARVE OUTS FOR THE 30%. AND THEY'RE KIND OF THE MOST WE CAN GET FROM THE STANDPOINT OF NEGOTIATING. AND SO AND JUST TO BE CANDID UP HERE, ONE OF THOSE JEFFERSON'S CAME AROUND TO ASKING FOR TO DO THIS WITHOUT. AND THEY WERE TOLD BASICALLY NO. AND THEY'RE COMING BACK SAYING THEY'LL DO IT WITH. AND THAT'S ULTIMATELY HOW WE GET SOME 30% BENEFIT. SO I THINK THE ONES WE'RE LOOKING AT MEET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, PATRICK, IN TERMS OF IT'S MORE THAN THE 80%. IS IT ALL YOU KNOW. NO. BUT IT'S MORE FROM A I HEAR YOU AND IT'S A BETTER WIN THAN I THINK A LOT OF COMMUNITIES ARE GETTING. AND I RESPECT THAT. WHAT I DON'T KNOW AND I JUST DON'T KNOW. THIS IS THE JUICE WORTH THE SQUEEZE? HOW MUCH TAX ARE WE GIVING UP VERSUS HOW MUCH WOULD WE HAVE TO PAY TO AUGMENT A MARKET RATE UNIT TO GET IT DOWN TO 30%? I HAVE A FEELING THAT THE JUICE IS NOT WORTH THE SQUEEZE, AND I KNOW MHR CAN DO THAT, AND I DON'T BEGRUDGE HIM FROM DOING IT. I THINK IT'S A GOOD USE OF THEIR MONEY, BUT WHAT I THINK WE'RE USING A CHAINSAW WHERE WE COULD USE A SCALPEL HERE. I COULD BE WRONG. I JUST NEED TO SEE THE NUMBERS THOUGH. SO. AND THAT'S THAT'S CERTAINLY IDENTIFIABLE. YEAH. THAT'S MATH. THEY COULD, WE COULD I DO THINK WHEN YOU BECAUSE WE LOOKED AT IT WITH KINSTON A LITTLE BIT WHEN IT CAME THROUGH THAT ULTIMATELY IF

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THE 80% UNITS THAT MAY NOT BE IMPORTANT TO US IS THE TAX THAT YOU'RE GIVING UP IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE GETTING. THAT'S LESS THAN WHAT THE CITY TAX WOULD GET ON A MARKET RATE PRODUCT, HOW MUCH OF THAT PER UNIT. AND IT WAS LIKE 6000 PER UNIT IN IN WHAT YOU'D GIVEN UP JUST APPLYING THE ENTIRE TAX BENEFIT OR THE TAX LOWERING TO THE 30% UNITS. AND IF YOU TOOK THAT 6000 ANNUAL AND YOU TOOK THE RENT, THAT SOMEONE WHO PAYS 30%, YOU TOOK THOSE TWO SUMS OF MONEY AND YOU WENT OUT AND YOU TRIED TO BUILD A PRODUCT, YOU COULDN'T BUILD IT FOR THAT. AND SO WE COULDN'T BUILD IT. BUT COULD WE? AND MAYBE YOU'RE NOT. IT'S FINE IF YOU CAN'T ANSWER THIS, BUT COULD WE SUBSIDIZE IT FOR LESS MONEY THAN WHAT THAT TAX BENEFIT IS? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. YOU CAN'T BUILD IT FOR IT. SO YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE AND YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET TO SOME SORT OF SUBSIDY WITHOUT AN ADDITIONAL COST ON TOP OF THAT. SO I THINK HE'S TALKING ABOUT A, A VERY, A SPECIFIC SUBSIDY FROM THE CITY TO HOW WE, HOW WE THE MECHANICS OF THIS NOT ADDRESSING RIGHT NOW, BUT TO THE RENTER. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS WE DON'T HAVE WE HAVE A STATE TOOL, A STATE FINANCING TOOL THAT SAYS, THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN DO. YOU CAN GIVE UP ALL THESE TAXES AND REQUIRE THIS PAYMENT BACK. BUT WE DON'T HAVE ONE WHERE WE CAN JUST GIVE UP CITY TAXES OR WE CAN CREATE SOME AFFORDABILITY MECHANISM THAT GIVES UP SCHOOL DISTRICT TAXES UNLESS THEY DO THIS RIGHT HERE. WELL, THAT'S WHERE THE PILOT PAYMENT WOULD COME IN THOUGH, RIGHT? WE'RE SAYING BUT THEY'VE GOT TO MEET 50% OF THE UNITS HAVE TO BE 80% OR LESS. SO THEY'VE GOT TO GIVE UP 45 OR 42.5% AT 80%. OKAY. TO END UP GETTING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, COUNTY AND COLLEGE TAX BREAK. OKAY. WELL, IT MAY BE THE WORLD I WANT DOESN'T EXIST. BUT INSTEAD OF HAVING A WORLD WHERE 50% OF THE UNITS ARE OR WE HAVE, WE HAVE 400 UNITS, 200 ARE MARKET RATE 180 OR 80% AMI 20 OUT OF THE 405% ARE 30 OF AMI. 30. IS THE FRUIT ON THE TREE RIGHT? CAN'T WE SAY, LOOK, GUYS, GIVE UP 80% OF YOUR UNITS AND KEEP 20% AS MARKET RATE? AND SO WE'RE BUILDING LESS OF THESE THINGS, NOT MORE OF THESE BIG COMPLEXES THAT ARE JUST PAYING NOTHING TOWARDS OUR ROADS, PARKS AND POLICE. AGAIN, I THINK THAT MCKINNEY'S BEEN VERY GENEROUS IN THIS AND WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB OF HOUSING OUR PEOPLE. I THINK WE'RE HOUSING EVERYBODY ELSE'S PEOPLE. AND BY CONTINUING TO DO THIS, WE'RE LETTING THEM SIT THERE AND US HOUSE THEIR PEOPLE AND ERODE OUR TAX BASE. AND THAT'S THE PART THAT I HAVE A TOUGH TIME WITH. YEAH. WHAT I'M WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT THE MECHANISM TO, TO, TO KIND OF PARCEL OUT AND SAY, WE'LL GIVE YOU THIS, THIS AND THIS. IF YOU DO THAT, THAT AND THAT ISN'T ALLOWED UNDER STATE CODE, IT'S ONLY THIS KIND OF ONE. YOU CAN ONLY GIVE UP. WE CAN ONLY DICTATE THE GIVING UP OF SCHOOL, COUNTY AND COLLEGE TAXES. IF THEY DO THIS BIG PICTURE 50% CHUNK. AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS I WANT TO INCREASE THAT NUMBER FROM 50 ARBITRARILY. ME I KNOW THAT THE LAW DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN IT, BUT IF YOU WANT MY BLESSING ON IT, YOU BETTER BE AT 80% OF UNITS BELOW MARKET RATE THEN. SO WE'RE NOT HAVING TO BUILD A BUNCH OF THESE THINGS. THAT'S THAT'S PATRICK SCORECARD.

YEAH. YOU KNOW PATRICK MAY BE ALONE IN THAT AND THAT'S OKAY. BUT THAT'S MY SCORECARD. THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IN HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS IS WE KIND OF NEED TO LOOK AT THE GOVERNMENT BENEFIT, WHETHER THAT IS A PAYMENT TO MHRA OR A PAYMENT TO THE CITY. IN A SIMILAR LIGHT, THAT AS LONG AS R COMPARABLE RETURN OFF OF THE TAXES THAT THE CITY HAS GIVEN UP, WHETHER IT'S COMING TO THE CITY OR MHR, THEN THAT'S THE EVALUATION WE ULTIMATELY SHOULD BE MAKING. WHAT MHR DOES WITH THAT ALSO NEEDS TO BE CARRIED WITH SOME SET OF GOALS THAT ALIGN WITH OUR GOALS ON HOUSING. SO RATHER THAN US ALLOCATE $250,000 A YEAR INTO A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE'VE ALLOCATED ONE OF THESE PROJECTS OR WE'VE SAID THAT WE'RE OKAY WITH ONE OF THESE PROJECTS THAT ENDS UP PAYING $250,000 IN TAX ALLOCATION TO MHR, AND IT'S A WASH, RATHER THAN IT COMING TO US AND US SPENDING 250 ON THE CLT. IT GOES TO MHR AND THEY SPEND 250,000 ON A CLT TYPE. BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE ON

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YEAH. SO I THINK I WOULD NOT I DON'T SUBSCRIBE TO JUST A, THE THOUGHT OF LET'S CONCENTRATE ALL SUBSIDIZED HOUSING IN A SINGLE PRODUCT. IF WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT HISTORICALLY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. AND THAT'S PROBABLY NOT WHERE WE WANT TO BE IN MCKINNEY. THAT'S A VERY FAIR POINT. WHAT I WOULD LIKE IN THE EVALUATION PROCESS, IN THE SCORECARD IS SOME LEVEL OF LIGHT SHINED ON EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GIVING UP, EXACTLY WHO'S GETTING IT. IF IT'S A PFC THAT HAS THE BANDWIDTH TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, IF THE DEVELOPER GENERAL FUND AND IS IT. YES. AND IS THE OR IS THE DEVELOPER, IF IT'S AN MHA THING WHERE IT CAN'T GO TO THE GENERAL FUND? IS THE IS THE MHA WILLING TO DO ANY LEVEL OF PILOT PAYMENT? IF SO, WHAT WOULD THAT BE? I JUST HAVE AN INTEREST IN THESE THINGS. DOING SOME OF THE LIFT TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE PARKS, ROADS AND POLICE AND TO HELP OUT THE TAX BASE A LITTLE BIT. AGREED. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MR. MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST ADD OR GET CLARIFICATION. THE PURPOSE OF TODAY, I THINK, IS TO OUTLINE THE GENERAL APPROACH, THE IDEA OF A UNIFIED SCORECARD THAT ALL THREE HOUSING ENTITIES, IF YOU WILL, MEANING THE PFC, THE MHA AND THE MFK AS A UNIFIED SCORECARD. THE RIGHT APPROACH IN YOUR VIEW, THE ONLY AND SPEAKS TO SOME OF THE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE. I LOVE ONE HAND. I LOVE THE IDEA, BUT NOTHING I SAW ON THE SCORE CARD ADDRESSES. THE FUNDS, HOW THE FUNDS ARE BEING TREATED. IF IT'S A PFC AND IT'S COMING BACK TO A GENERAL FUND, THEN IT'S SUBSIDIZING ALL THE THINGS THAT WERE GIVEN UP, IN SOME CASES TO A GREATER EXTENT THAN IF WE WERE RECEIVING A TAX PAYMENT ON AN MHA DEAL. BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A UNIFIED SCORECARD, WHETHER IT'S MHA, PFC, RIGHT. SO WE'RE LOSING THAT. AND I THINK TO PATRICK'S POINT, WE'RE LOSING THAT ANALYSIS IN THAT SCORECARD OR THAT THAT INFORMATION THAT MIGHT THAT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO THE DECISION. SO FOR ME, IT'S YEAH, I LOVE A UNIFIED SCORECARD BUT LOVE SOME SOME FOOTNOTE DETAIL ON POINTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO I JUMPED UP READY TO ADD TO YOUR. SO THAT'S A REALLY REALLY GOOD POINT. I THINK THE NOTE I TOOK IS WE CAN ONE REVIEW THE CATEGORIES AS RELATED TO HOW TO INCORPORATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT ALSO KNOW THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. THE SCORECARD IS THE FIRST HURDLE. THE SCORECARD JUST KEEPS ALL OF ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE DON'T EVEN WANT AWAY FROM YOU. GOOD. THE STAFF WILL TAKE THE ONES THAT SCORE TEN AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET A WHOLE DIFFERENT LEVEL OF ANALYSIS, WAY MORE THAN THE CATEGORIES THAT WERE SHOWN ON THE SCREEN, TO INCLUDE THINGS LIKE THE COST PER UNIT ON THE 30%, 60% TO INCLUDE WHO'S GETTING THE MONEY, HOW MUCH ARE THEY GETTING? ET CETERA. SO THAT EACH ENTITY CAN REVIEW THOSE DISTINCTLY. SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, THAT THE SCORECARD IS REALLY JUST PHASE ONE. THE REAL WORK COMES IN PHASE TWO. AND THAT'S WHAT GOES BEFORE THE BOARDS FOR. WHY DIDN'T YOU LEAD WITH THAT? I'M SORRY, I JUST I JUST LIKE I WANTED TO HEAR THE QUESTION YOU BROUGHT UP SUCH A GREAT POINT. THAT BEING SAID, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SCORECARD FOR A SECOND? IF THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, I THERE'S SOME THINGS ON HERE THAT TO ME ARE CONTRADICTORY TO EACH OTHER. ONE BEING MY MAIN FOCUS IS LOCATION. LOCATION IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO ME ON THERE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT I GREW UP IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND I YOU KNOW, PATRICK, I KNOW WE'RE TALKING NUMBERS AND THIS AND THAT WHICH WE SAY WE'LL GET TO THAT. BUT THE WAY THIS IS SET UP, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL KIND OF PROMOTES LIVING IN THE PROJECTS. AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, OKAY, WE GIVE GOOD SCORING FOR THE LOCATION LIVING ON THE WEST SIDE OF MCKINNEY. BUT THEN ON THE PROJECT TYPE, WE'RE SCORING A FOUR FOR REHAB.

WE'RE ALL THE WE'RE ALL THE PROJECTS TO BE REHABBED AT WHAT SIDE OF TOWN THEY'RE ON SIDE.

[01:30:02]

YEAH I ALSO THAT'S A GREAT POINT MICHAEL. ON THE HOUSING TYPE I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT I AGREE WITH THE DISTINCTION ON THE OWNERSHIP DISTINCTION BETWEEN SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY MULTIFAMILY. MCKINNEY TOWNHOME IS MULTIFAMILY. AND I THINK OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY SHOULD SCORE HIGHER AND QUITE FRANKLY, ACHIEVING IT. AFFORDABILITY IN SINGLE FAMILY VERSUS A AGAIN PEOPLE HERE MULTIFAMILY I THINK APARTMENTS. BUT AS WE KNOW IN MCKINNEY A ANYTHING ATTACHED. SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT I AGREE WITH A DISTINCTION. I MEAN OWNERSHIP SHOULD BE OWNERSHIP IN MY MIND. AND SO INSTEAD OF HOUSING TYPE OWNERSHIP. YEAH, I MEAN TO ME THAT WOULD BE THERE WOULD BE THREE DIFFERENT POINTS THERE. THREE FOR OWNERSHIP, TWO FOR SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL, ONE FOR MULTIFAMILY RENTAL. OKAY. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. THERE'S OTHERS UP HERE. YEAH. THE TENAN.

WHERE'S THE. YEAH. LET'S SEE. YES I LOOK AT AN AREA WITH NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHIN A TEN MILE RADIUS. I MEAN THAT THAT GOES BACK TO SOME OF YOUR POINT POTENTIALLY HELPING OFFSET IT, BUT MAYBE NOT. NOT ENOUGH. I'M ALL TOGETHER ON ONE SIDE OF TOWN. IT KIND OF HELPS AVOID THAT. YEAH. AND AGAIN, THE ABILITY FOR THESE PROJECTS AND THAT'S THE POINT I WAS SPEAKING TO A MINUTE AGO. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT INTEGRATING THEM WITH CLASS A PRODUCT MARKET PRODUCT, THAT THAT TO ME IS ACTUALLY A POSITIVE THING. I WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE US GO TO MORE DENSIFIED, YOU KNOW, FEWER, FEWER. WHEN I SAY PROJECT, I MEAN PROJECTS LIKE YOU SPOKE ABOUT A MINUTE AGO, BUT FEWER PROJECTS WITH WITH CONCENTRATED AFFORDABILITY. I THINK IT'S BETTER TO SEE THAT SUBSIDIZED OR AMORTIZED OVER, YOU KNOW, MORE PROJECTS AND MARKET RATE BECAUSE THERE'S MANY, MANY THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT THAT ARE BENEFICIAL. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME MORE DATA. AND THIS WILL BE ON THE SECOND PART OF THIS. ABOUT 80% AMI, BECAUSE TO ME, I MEAN, I I'M LOOKING WHEN I LOOK AT AFFORDABILITY, I WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY IN MCKINNEY AND JUST GIVE THEM THAT LITTLE THAT HELP THE HELP THEY NEED TO LIVE HERE. NOW, WHEN WE SAY 30%, WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING FOR 30%. I MEAN, WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY MEAN? WHAT TYPE OF JOBS ARE YOU WORKING AT? YOU KNOW, 30%, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S PEOPLE WORKING AT RESTAURANTS NOW THAT I MEAN, SERVERS ARE MAKING, YOU KNOW, 60, 70, $80,000, BUT THEY MAY NOT GET THEM A HOUSE IN MCKINNEY, BUT AT 80%, IT ALLOWS THEM TO LIVE IN MCKINNEY. AND WE NEED THAT TYPE OF PERSON OR THAT TYPE OF WORKER IN MCKINNEY TO HELP, YOU KNOW, WITH THE IN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY. SO I YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THE DATA, BUT I SUSPECT THAT WE HAD THAT DATA.

WE WOULD SHOW THAT THAT THAT INDUSTRY IS ACTUALLY THRIVING. AND JUST WITH A LITTLE HELP THAT IT WORKS. AND SO THAT 80% THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF DECLINING, THEY'RE SAYING WE DON'T WANT IT'S PROBABLY WHAT WE NEED TO KEEP MCKINNEY THRIVING IN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE DATA ON THAT BECAUSE MAYBE I'M WRONG. BUT TO ME, WHAT I'VE BEEN SEEING, YOU KNOW, JUST WORKING IN THE BANKING INDUSTRY THAT THEY, THEY MAKE DECENT MONEY.

IT'S NOT YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT I WOULDN'T CALL IT LOW INCOME. SO, MR. MAYOR, WHAT I'M HEARING ARE SOME THE CONCEPT OF A SCORECARD IS ACCEPTABLE. THE DETAILS WITHIN EACH ONE OF THE CATEGORIES PROBABLY NEED A LITTLE BIT OF MASSAGING, AND WE CAN OFFER SOME SUGGESTIONS TO BRING BACK. CIRCULATE TO THE COUNCIL TO SEE THAT GENERAL CONSENSUS ON EACH ONE OF YOU COULD PROBABLY COME UP WITH YOUR OWN SCORECARD AND WHAT THE WEIGHTING WOULD BE. WE HAVE TO TRY TO STRIKE THAT SORT OF GOLDILOCKS. TEMPERATURE BALANCE. AND SOME OF THE FEEDBACK YOU'VE GIVEN US IS VERY HELPFUL. WE CAN TAKE IT BACK AND KIND OF CHEW ON IT AND SEE WHAT THAT DOES, AND THEN BRING IT BACK FOR YOU FOR REVIEW. ALL RIGHT. IS THAT GOOD? GOOD. THANK YOU, THANK YOU THANK

[Consider/Discuss Proposed Amendments to McKinney Town Center (MTC) Zoning District (Appendix 2B) of the Unified Development Code (UDC)]

[01:35:01]

THANK YOU HALEY. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. AS HALEY SAID, THE REASON WE'RE HERE TODAY IS TO TALK ABOUT THE UPCOMING AMENDMENTS TO THE MTC, MCKINNEY TOWN CENTER ZONING DISTRICT. SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, LET'S HOP RIGHT IN. BEFORE I GET TO THE MEAT OF TODAY'S PRESENTATION, I DO WANT TO JUST STEP BACK FOR A MINUTE AND EXAMINE THE MTC KIND OF HOW DID WE GET HERE? SO THE MTC IS A SPECIAL ZONING DISTRICT THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2013 TO HELP FACILITATE THE KIND OF UNIQUE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS MADE DOWNTOWN THE ATTRACTIVE JEWEL IN OF THE CITY. SO ONE THING THAT MAKES IT SPECIAL, COMPARED TO ALL OF THE OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS WE SEE IN OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, IS THAT IT'S WHAT WE CALL A FORM BASED ZONING CODE. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS, AS OPPOSED TO, SAY, THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH IS USE BASED. SO YOU HAVE LIKE A LIST OF ZONES. EACH ZONE TELLS YOU YOU CAN DO X, Y, AND Z. IN THIS ZONE YOU CANNOT DO A, B AND C HERE. YOU CAN'T HAVE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN SINGLE FAMILY ZONING. THAT'S THE PRIMARY GUIDING FORCE BEHIND MOST ZONING CODES. BUT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE FORM BASED ZONING CODE. WHAT A FORM BASED ZONING CODE PRIMARILY IS. IS THAT IT, INSTEAD OF JUST GOVERNING USES, IS GOVERNING THE FORM OF THE SITE. SO RATHER THAN A FORM FOLLOWING FUNCTION, THE IDEA IS THAT FUNCTION SHOULD HOPEFULLY FOLLOW FORM. AND THAT'S HOPING TO CREATE PREDICTABLE AND HIGH QUALITY BUILT RESULTS BY MAKING THAT PHYSICAL FORM THE PRIMARY ORGANIZING PRINCIPLE. NOW, THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THE MTC DOESN'T HAVE A TABLE OF USES.

AND AS WE'LL SEE, THAT'S PRIMARILY WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY. BUT IT IS GOOD TO KEEP IN MIND THAT IT IS THAT FORM BASED CODE THAT IS CENTRAL TO HOW THE MTC OPERATES. SO ZOOMING IN. THIS IS A MAP OF THE MTC. THE MTC IS ALSO UNIQUE IN THAT DESPITE BEING ONE ZONING DISTRICT, IT'S ACTUALLY DIVIDED INTO SEVEN SUBDISTRICTS, MORE OR LESS CALLED CHARACTER DISTRICTS.

RIGHT HERE IS THE HISTORIC CORE. WE'RE HERE RIGHT NOW. THAT IS THE TOWN SQUARE IN THE IMMEDIATE SURROUNDINGS. SURROUNDING THE HISTORIC CORE IS THE DOWNTOWN CORE, AND THAT'S THE PRIMARY AREA. EAST. EXCUSE ME. WEST OF HIGHWAY FIVE, FORMING THE WESTERN FLANK AROUND THOSE TWO DISTRICTS IS THE DOWNTOWN EDGE. AND THAT'S WHERE WE KIND OF GO FROM THE MIXED USE LEANING COMMERCIAL TO PRIMARILY THAT RESIDENTIAL. AS WE GET INTO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, GOING FURTHER WEST, CROSSING HIGHWAY FIVE, WE HAVE TWO TRANSIT VILLAGE DISTRICTS, THE CORE AND THE EDGE. LIKEWISE. SIMILARLY, THE EDGE IS KIND OF THAT BOUNDARY WHERE MIXED USE AND COMMERCIAL BEGINS TO FADE INTO THE PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL AND OUR LEGACY NEIGHBORHOODS. GOING SOUTH ALONG HIGHWAY FIVE, WE GET TO THE COTTON MILL DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE A LITTLE EXCLAVE OF THE MTC AROUND THE OLD COTTON MILL. FINALLY, ONE LAST NOTE IS WE HAVE WHAT ARE CALLED PEDESTRIAN PRIORITY STREETS. THEY DON'T MEAN ANYTHING ON THEIR OWN, BUT CERTAIN REGULATIONS COME INTO PLAY. IF YOU ARE ALONG A PEDESTRIAN PRIORITY STREET, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE ALONG PEDESTRIAN PRIORITY A STREETS, ETC. SO THAT'S THE MTC. WHY ARE WE HERE? WELL, HALEY COVERED THE GIST OF IT AND QUITE HONESTLY, THIS UPDATE WILL BE MAJORITY JUST TWEAKING THINGS OR CLEANING THINGS UP. THE BIG ONE

[01:40:01]

[01:45:05]

AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A COFFEE ROASTERY THAT I FOUND IN HOLLY'S WHARF IN LONDON. JUST THE GENERAL FEEL OF THE TYPE OF ESTABLISHMENT WE'RE HOPING TO ENCOURAGE. THERE WOULD BE RECOMMENDED CRITERIA, THESE BEING IMPORTED DIRECTLY FROM THE EXISTING MICROBREWERY WINERY, DISTILLERY CIDERY, SO THAT WHEN IT REPLACES THAT USE IN THE UDC, NO CHANGE TO. EXCUSE ME, WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? NO CHANGE TO LAND USE ENTITLEMENTS. PARDON ME. AND THOSE CRITERIA ARE THAT THEY'LL ONLY BE LOCATED IN BUILDINGS LESS THAN 20 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FEET, WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT THEY CAN BE IN A 50 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. IF THERE IS A RESTAURANT COMPONENT OF SUFFICIENT SIZE. THE IDEA BEHIND THIS, IN PARTICULAR THE 20,000FT■S, IS WE THINK THAT PROVIDES A WAY TO NATURALLY LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF DISTRIBUTION THAT'S HAPPENING, ENOUGH TO MAKE IT REASONABLE TO DO AT A SMALL SCALE WITHOUT BECOMING A TRUE INDUSTRIAL USE IN THE MIDDLE OF DOWNTOWN OR ANOTHER COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. MOVING ON, WE HAVE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT, AND THIS COMES IN TWO FLAVORS INDOOR AND OUTDOOR. THOUGH IN THE UDC WE ACTUALLY HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT USES. WE HAVE COMMERCIAL ENTERTAINMENT, INDOOR AND OUTDOOR AND RECEPTION OR EVENT CENTER, INDOOR AND OUTDOOR. NOW THIS THESE USES CAME ABOUT WHEN THE UDC WAS CREATED. HOWEVER, BECAUSE THE MTC IS USING THESE OLDER USES, THEY'RE CONSOLIDATED INTO ONE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT USE. WE JUST WANT TO BRING THAT INTO ALIGNMENT WITH THE REST OF THE UDC, MAKE IT EASIER TO READ AND UNDERSTAND. CURRENTLY, BOTH INDOOR AND OUTDOOR ARE ALLOWED IN THE MTC TO VARYING DEGREES, EITHER WITH CRITERIA OR WITH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT DEPENDING ON THE CHARACTER DISTRICT. HERE WE HAVE THE HORSES ACTS, WHICH IS AN EXAMPLE OF EXISTING COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INDOOR IN DOWNTOWN. MORE EXAMPLES. TYPES. IN ADDITION TO BEING A BREWERY, DOES HAVE AN SAP PERMITTING OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT. THE FLOUR MILL, AGAIN AN SUP FOR OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT, ALTHOUGH WITH THE NEW CODE IT WOULD BE OUTDOOR RECEPTION OR EVENT CENTER. FINALLY, BELOW WE HAVE BOTH ARCADE 92 AND THE COMEDY ARENA, TWO MORE EXISTING EXAMPLES OF COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INDOOR, JUST SO THAT WE HAVE A GENERAL IDEA OF THE KIND OF BUSINESSES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. LOOKING AT OTHER DOWNTOWNS BROADLY, WE DO SEE THAT INDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT OR SIMILAR USES ARE GENERALLY ALLOWED EITHER BY RIGHT OR WITH SOME CONDITIONS, AND IN MCKINNEY IN THE MTC. CURRENTLY, EVERYTHING EAST OF HIGHWAY FIVE IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT FOR INDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT, AND AN SUP IS REQUIRED FOR THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC CORES. CURRENTLY THE ONLY CHARACTER DISTRICT WHERE IT'S FULLY NOT ALLOWED IS THE DOWNTOWN EDGE. WHAT WE'D BE PROPOSING, IN ADDITION TO FIXING UP THE DEFINITIONS AND NAMES, IS TO EXPAND THE ENTITLEMENTS TO WHERE AN SUP WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED IN THE HISTORIC CORE OR DOWNTOWN CORE. LOOKING AT JUST SOME OF THOSE EXAMPLES, ALL OF THOSE ARE IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE AND HISTORIC CORE, AND THEY, FRANKLY DO FIT IN EXTREMELY WELL. THEY WORK, THEY MESH WITH THE URBAN FABRIC. GREAT. THEY HAVE THEY BRING A CERTAIN LEVEL OF ECONOMIC DIVERSITY THAT WE

[01:50:03]

AND IF IT WAS FOUND THAT THIS WAS A REASONABLE ASK, YOU COULD GET THAT REZONED TO FIT YOUR USE. THE MTC IS A BIT DIFFERENT. STAFF HAS NEVER SUPPORTED ZONING OUT OF THE MTC, AND IT'S ALSO.

WE HAVE NOT ACTUALLY SEEN ANYONE ZONE INTO THE MTC. SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE WANT TO BUILD IN A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THE CODE ITSELF SO THAT IF THERE IS A BUSINESS THAT COULD REASONABLY FIT IN ONE OF THESE LOCATIONS, EVEN IF IT IS A BIT CLOSER THAN THAT 300FT, THAT THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THEIR CASE IN A PUBLIC HEARING. MOVING OUTDOORS A BIT MORE RESTRICTIVE IN OUR COMPARISON, DOWNTOWNS MCKINNEY IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH GEORGETOWN, DENTON, AND SAN MARCOS, WHERE OTHER THAN SAN MARCOS, WHICH ANYTHING GOES, THEY DO ALLOW WITH CONDITIONS OR WITH SUPS. AND AS IT STANDS NOW, THESE OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT VENUES ARE ALLOWED IN EVERY CHARACTER DISTRICT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE DOWNTOWN EDGE, WITH AN SUP, OUR ONLY SUGGESTED CHANGE WOULD BE TO ALLOW THEM IN THE DOWNTOWN EDGE WITH AN SUP FOR THE SAME REASONS WE MENTIONED, WITH THE COMMERCIAL INDOOR AND INDOOR EVENT CENTERS, JUST IT'S FORESEEABLE THAT THERE COULD BE A BUSINESS THAT WOULD NOT BE DISRUPTIVE AT A GIVEN LOCATION.

SO WE WANT TO BUILD IN THAT FLEXIBILITY TO ALLOW THEM TO HAVE THEIR DAY IN A PUBLIC HEARING TO MAKE THEIR CASE. FINALLY, WE HAVE BODY ART STUDIOS, AND THESE ARE ESTABLISHMENTS OFFERING TATTOOING OR BODY PIERCING SERVICES. THERE'S A BIT MORE TECHNICAL DEFINITION THAT GOES ON FOR ABOUT TWO PARAGRAPHS, BUT ESSENTIALLY IF IT'S PIERCING YOUR SKIN OR YOUR BODY IN SOME WAY, BODY ART STUDIO CURRENTLY NOT ALLOWED ANYWHERE IN THE MTC AND IN FACT THE ONLY PLACE THEY ARE ALLOWED ARE IN, EXCUSE ME, THE ONLY PLACES THEY ARE ALLOWED IN MCKINNEY ARE IN OUR INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS. HOWEVER, LOOKING AROUND, WE DO SEE THAT THE MAJORITY OF OUR COMPARISON DOWNTOWNS DO ALLOW THEM WITH EITHER CRITERIA, CONDITIONS, OR SOME LEVEL OF PERMITTING. THE REASON WE BROUGHT THIS ONE UP IS WE'VE HAD PRETTY FREQUENT INQUIRIES ABOUT PEOPLE OPENING BODY ART STUDIOS DOWNTOWN. MANY OF THEM ACTUALLY ASSUMED THAT IT WAS ALLOWED, POSSIBLY BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT LIKE DENTON OR PLANO IN PARTICULAR, NEARBY, BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH FREQUENCY OF INQUIRY ABOUT THIS. WE DID WANT TO GET COUNCIL'S OPINION ON WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD ADD THIS AS A USE TO OUR DOWNTOWN STAFF IS READY AND WILLING TO OFFER DIFFERENT CRITERIA. IF WE ARE GIVEN INSTRUCTIONS TO PURSUE THIS. BUT BASICALLY WE SEE THREE OPTIONS. ONE IS WE COULD KEEP THE CURRENT RESTRICTIONS AS IN NOT ALLOWED. THAT'S IT. CLOSE THE BOOK ON IT. WE COULD ALLOW IT IN LIMITED AREAS WITH CRITERIA, MAYBE ONLY IN SOME CHARACTER DISTRICTS. OR WE COULD ALLOW IT MORE BROADLY WITH CRITERIA. AND THERE'S PLENTY OF DIFFERENT CRITERIA WE COULD USE. PLANO HAS AN EXAMPLE. THERE'S JUST THE BASIC BUSINESS DISTANCE

[01:55:05]

YEAH, YEAH, THAT THAT IS AN ISSUE WITH THEM MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF DIFFERENT TABC DEFINITIONS FOR VENUES THAT CAN SERVE ALCOHOL. IT DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEIR STATUS AS A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT VENUE. OKAY. AND NOTHING TO DO WITH THEY WERE SERVING ALCOHOL TO PEOPLE THROWING AXES. NO COMMENT. OKAY. I'M FINE WITH. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHAT I REMEMBERED ON THAT. SO BODY ART. SO WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THE FIRST TWO FOR ME. TATTOO AND PIERCING. I'D RATHER NOT SEE IT. I MY QUESTION ON THAT IS HOW DO WE DEFINE BODY ART OR TATTOOING OR. YEAH, THERE'S A COSMETIC TATTOO. YEAH. BECAUSE THE COSMETIC. BUT THERE'S A NAME FOR THAT MATTER OF FACT AS DISTINCTIONS BECAUSE THAT'S THE QUESTION I GET ASKED. YES, I HAVE THE WAS IT GOT THE LONG DEFINITION HERE. BUT THERE'S A, THERE'S ACTUALLY A, THERE'S A VERY SPECIFIC KIND OF TATTOOING THAT IS NAMED FOR IT, WHERE WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EYEBROWS OR, OR THINGS LIKE LIPS, THINGS LIKE THAT. LET'S SEE IF I CAN FIND IT AGAIN.

SEEMS EQUIPPED TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION. SOMEBODY. NO, I WAS GOING TO SAY MOST OF THOSE WOULD FALL UNDER PERSONAL SERVICE AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T INVOLVE PIERCINGS, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE LIMITED INSTANCES WHERE. LIKE IF YOU IF IT'S PART OF LIKE A PERMANENT MAKEUP AND IT'S ONLY ABOVE THE NECK IN OUR CODE, THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED PERSONAL SERVICE. I THINK THERE MAY BE OTHER LICENSING THAT HAS TO GO ON WITH THE STATE FOR THAT, BUT AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED, AS LONG AS IT'S JUST A COUPLE OF SPECIFIC THINGS AND IT'S ALL GOING ON ABOVE THE SHOULDERS, YOU CAN BE CONSIDERED PERSONAL SERVICE RATHER THAN MICROPIGMENTATION COSMETIC TATTOOING PROCESS, WHERE PIGMENT IS IMPLANTED INTO THE DERMIS LAYER OF THE SKIN. MICRO WHAT? MICROBLADING. AND THAT'S I'M ACTUALLY READING PIGMENT. I'M NO MICROBLADING IS ANOTHER ONE.

MICROBLADING MICRO PIGMENTATION. BUT THERE ARE TERMS FOR IT WHERE IT IS IDENTIFIED SPECIFICALLY AS. AND IT GETS INTO THE DEFINITION OF WHAT KIND OF COSMETIC, YOU KNOW, FACIAL FEATURES. NOT NOT ART. BUT ANYWAY, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S EASY ENOUGH TO WHERE DOES THAT LAND? CAMERON PERSONAL SERVICES. WHERE DOES THAT LAND? DOES IT NEED SUP? IS IT FREE TO GO ANYWHERE? PERSONAL SERVICE IS GENERALLY ALLOWED IN. I WANT TO SAY IT'S BY RIGHT AND WITH CRITERIA IN EVERY DISTRICT. OKAY. YEAH. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. I LIKE THAT AND WE'VE KIND OF HAD THAT HERE, AT LEAST FOR MY ANECDOTAL KNOWLEDGE. I'VE NEVER BEEN A CUSTOMER, BUT AS FAR AS THE COSMETIC TATTOO PARLOR, I THINK WE'RE VERY SUCCESSFUL WITHOUT IT. I THINK THAT CHANGES THE FABRIC OF OUR SQUARE IN OUR DOWNTOWN, AND I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY INTEREST IN THAT. LIKEWISE, I AGREE. ALL RIGHT. DOES SOMEBODY HAVE LIKE A BOUTIQUE AND THEY SELL JEWELRY AND THEY WANT TO DO EAR PIERCINGS LIKE A CLAIRE'S

[02:00:04]

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

[ACTION ON EXECUTIVE SESSION]

I'LL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? NAY. SO APPROVED. I GOT IT. OKAY. JERRY, DO YOU WANT TO MOVE TO ADJOURN? YES. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? ALL RI

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