Jan 07, 2025 City Council Work Session

[CALL TO ORDER]

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RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY. TODAY IS TUESDAY, JANUARY 7TH. YEAR 2025. IT'S 3:00 IN THE AFTERNOON. WE'RE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 222 NORTH TENNESSEE STREET. THE GREAT CITY OF MCKINNEY TODAY IS OUR CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION, FOLLOWED THIS EVENING BY OUR REGULAR SESSION. FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY. WE WILL MOVE TO DISCUSS ANY AGENDA ITEMS BY COUNCIL THAT WE WANT TO DISCUSS WITH STAFF WHILE THEY ARE HERE. PRIOR TO TONIGHT'S MEETING. ANYBODY? WE WILL MOVE THEN TO OUR WORK SESSION. ITEM

[Presentation on the McKinney National Airport East Side Development]

MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. I'M KEN CARLEY, AIRPORT DIRECTOR. WE'VE GOT A UPDATE ON THE EAST SIDE DEVELOPMENT FOR YOU TONIGHT. I'M GOING TO GIVE A LITTLE QUICK OVERVIEW OF KIND OF HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. AND THEN I'LL ASK MITCHELL MCANALLY WITH GARVER, WHO IS OUR ENGINEER OF RECORD, COME UP AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A TECHNICAL FLAVOR OF THE SITE PLAN AND THE AND THE PROJECT, AND THEN BARRY WILL ALSO COME UP AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FUNDING AND THE FINANCING FOR THE PROJECT. I'M NOT ABLE TO ADVANCE IT.

THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. SO JUST JUST AS A RECAP, YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME. YOU'RE SEEING, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE MORE RELEVANT STUFF WITH THE SITE PLAN TODAY.

BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR SEVERAL YEARS. IN FACT, AIRLINES STARTED REACHING OUT TO THE AIRPORT IN 2019, UNSOLICITED, ASKING ABOUT THE ABILITY AND WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR THEM TO OPERATE OUT OF MCKINNEY NATIONAL AIRPORT. SO WE'VE HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS ONGOING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, ACTUALLY, ALREADY WE STARTED WORK WITH AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT IN 2022. WE STARTED DEVELOPING SOME PRELIMINARY 30% PROGRAMING DESIGN DOCUMENTS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE EAST SIDE. SO SORRY. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THAT LED US UP TO DEVELOP SOME PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES ON COSTS. INITIALLY WE HAD A $300 MILLION PROJECT AND WE WERE PUTTING TOGETHER A FUNDING MECHANISMS FOR THAT. WE HAD A BOND INITIATIVE, ABOUT 200 $200 MILLION IN BOND REVENUES PROPOSED IN 2023 THAT FAILED. AND SO SINCE THAT TIME, WE'VE REALLY COME BACK AROUND. AIRLINES HAVE CONTINUED TO EXPRESS INTEREST IN THE PROJECT.

SO WE'VE CONTINUED TO ADVANCE THE PROJECT BASED ON COUNCIL'S INITIATIVES AND DESIGN A MUCH SMALLER SCALE PROJECT. SO TODAY, YOU'LL SEE A PROJECT OF ABOUT $72 MILLION THAT REALLY FOCUSES ON A PHASE ONE PROOF OF CONCEPT. WHAT IS NEEDED DAY ONE TO GET AIRLINES IN AND OPERATING IT AT MCKINNEY. AND SO THAT'S THAT PROGRAM ADJUSTMENTS TIMELINE ITEM THERE THAT YOU SEE LEADING UP TO WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY. WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF LAND ON THE WEST SIDE. AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE WE'VE SHOWN YOU THAT IN SOME OTHER DOCUMENTS. WE HAVE ABOUT 11 ACRES ON TWO PARCELS THAT ARE LEFT, BUT WE WILL BE OUT OF LAND TO DEVELOP ON THE WEST SIDE. SO WE KNEW WE HAD A NEED TO BE ON THE EAST SIDE. A LOT OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE YOU'LL SEE TODAY SERVES NOT ONLY COMMERCIAL SERVICE POTENTIALLY, BUT ALSO GENERAL AVIATION. SO A LOT OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO GET BUILT REGARDLESS. AND BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE TODAY IS WHAT WE FEEL IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE LAND. FOR THE INITIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE EAST SIDE. SO WITH THAT, I'LL HAVE MITCHELL COME UP AND TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE SITE ITSELF, AND I THINK THIS WILL WORK FOR YOU NOW. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR. COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR AN UPDATE. JUST I GUESS FOR THE AUDIENCE. MY NAME IS MITCHELL MCANALLY, THE SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER FOR GARVER AND SERVING AS ENGINEER OF RECORD FOR THE AIRPORT. SO, AS KEN MENTIONED, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE AIRPORT, WITH THE INITIATIVE TO START DEVELOPING, TO LOOK AT WHAT THAT OPPORTUNITY IS BECAUSE OF THE WEST SIDE, IT ALL STARTS WITH WHAT YOU HAVE NOW. AS YOU CAN SEE TODAY, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE WITH THE LIGHTING HERE, BUT THERE CURRENTLY ARE NO TAXIWAYS, NO PUBLIC ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE. THERE ARE SOME WATER UTILITIES THAT SERVE THE EAST SIDE, BUT IT'S A GREEN SLATE. IT'S THERE'S NOTHING OVER THERE TO ACTUALLY SUPPORT AERONAUTICAL DEVELOPMENT. SO IT REALLY STARTS WITH THAT BACKBONE, WHICH IS THAT PARALLEL TAXIWAY, THAT TAXIWAY CHARLIE THAT'S IDENTIFIED HERE ON THE SCREEN.

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SO YOU HAVE YOUR TAXIWAY FOR AIRCRAFT AND OF COURSE FOR A PUBLIC ACCESS POINT. IF IT'S A COMMERCIAL TERMINAL, AIRPORT TERMINAL, OR IF IT'S ANYTHING AERONAUTICAL FOR GENERAL AVIATION, YOU STILL NEED A POINT TO ACTUALLY GET TO IT FROM THE LAND SIDE, WHICH IS YOUR PUBLIC ROADWAY SYSTEM. WITH THAT, THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE. WHAT WE ENDED UP DOING IS WE TOOK A PREVIOUS CONCEPT THAT LOOKED AT GENERAL AVIATION FROM A MAINTENANCE REPAIR OVERHAUL FACILITY AND TOOK THAT IDEA AND SAID, OKAY, HOW DO WE MAXIMIZE THIS LAND? WHAT IS THE BEST USE? AND WHAT YOU SEE HERE IN THE MIDDLE IS A AIRPORT TERMINAL THAT'S ABOUT 45,000FT■S. WE TOOK THAT ORIGINAL SITE THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE A LARGER HANGAR FOR GENERAL AVIATION, AND LOOKED TO SEE HOW WE COULD MEND THE TWO TOGETHER TO DEVELOP WHAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE SCREEN, WHICH IS A PASSENGER TERMINAL FOR THE AIRPORT. THE ULTIMATE LAYOUT HERE. THIS IS FOR FIVE AIRCRAFT GATES. AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE LATER IN RENDERINGS ARE THESE ARE GROUND LOADING FACILITIES. THESE ARE NOT THE TYPICAL PASSENGER BOARDING BRIDGES YOU WOULD SEE AT A LOVE FIELD OR DFW. BUT FOR THIS PLAN HERE, THIS SHOWS THE BUILD OUT FOR FIVE GATES FOR THE POTENTIAL OF SIX, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE NEEDS ARE FOR THE FACILITY. AND OF COURSE THERE ON THE FAR RIGHT SIDE. THIS WOULD BE LIKE WHAT THEY CALL REMAIN OVERNIGHT, WHICH IS JUST PARKING SPACES FOR AIRCRAFT OVERNIGHT.

BE ABLE TO SATISFY WHAT THE AIRLINES WOULD NEED AT THAT POINT WORKING FROM RIGHT TO LEFT. OF COURSE, THIS IS A LARGE PARKING LOT. THIS WOULD SATISFY THE NEEDS FOR PASSENGERS THAT NEED TO GO TO THE FACILITY, BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THIS FACILITY AND BE ABLE TO PARK TO FOR THE AIRPORT TO TAKE THOSE REVENUES AND ULTIMATELY HELP FUND FOR THE PROJECT ITSELF. SO OVERALL, THIS IS THE PROPOSED PROJECT UTILIZING FOR AN AIRPORT TERMINAL THAT, FROM A BUILD OUT STANDPOINT, CAN DO ANYTHING FROM 5 TO 6 GATES. WHAT ULTIMATELY GETS BUILT DAY ONE IS GOING TO BE DEPENDENT ON WHAT THE ACTUAL TRUE NEED IS. IF THAT'S 2 OR 3 GATES, THAT'S THE THINGS THAT WILL WORK THROUGH AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT ARE ONGOING BETWEEN THE AIRLINES AND THE AIRPORT. IF WE TAKE THAT AND WE KIND OF ZOOM OUT, THIS GOT SOME WEIRD MATRIX THING GOING ON ON TOP WITH THE AERIAL IMAGE. SO BEAR WITH ME WITH THE LIGHTING HERE. BUT THIS IS A ZOOMED OUT VIEW ON THE FAR RIGHT SIDE. YOU HAVE 380. OVER HERE WE HAVE FM 546, WHICH IS HARRY MCKILLOP WHICH IS A FOUR LANE ROAD THAT WHEN IT BECOMES BACK TO FM 546, IT'S A TWO LANE ROAD THAT GOES FROM WEST TO EAST ACROSS THE SOUTH END OF THE AIRPORT. DAY ONE WHEN THE AIRPORT OPERATES WHAT YOU SEE ON HERE, THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT TRAFFIC DATA THAT WE HAVE FROM LAST YEAR, FROM TRAFFIC COUNTS. AND WHAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS DURING THOSE PEAK HOURS, WHICH IS BETWEEN 730 IN THE MORNING TO 830, IF YOU'VE EVER DRIVEN OVER THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF CARS THAT ARE GOING FROM THE LOWRY CROSSING AREA, PRINCETON AREA THAT ARE COMING OVER TO WESTBOUND, AND THEN YOU ALSO CONSIDER THE OTHER MOVEMENTS COMING FROM THE OTHER DIRECTION.

IT'S ABOUT 170 VEHICLES DURING THAT PEAK HOUR, ACTUALLY GOING TO THE TERMINAL OUT OF A TOTAL THAT'S LESS THAN 10% OF THE VEHICLES ACTUALLY GOING TO THE FACILITY ITSELF. SO FM 546 IN ITSELF, THE TWO LANE ROAD, THROUGH COORDINATION WITH THE CITY OF MCKINNEY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND TXDOT HIGHWAY, WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER TO DEVELOP THE BEST AND MOST EFFECTIVE SOLUTION, WHICH IS A ROUNDABOUT INTERSECTION. THIS HAS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF IMPACT TO THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT CAN SERVE THIS AREA. AND KEEP IN MIND, LIKE WHAT WE SAID, ONLY 170 176 VEHICLES ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO THE TERMINAL DURING THAT PEAK TIME, DURING THAT 730 TO 830 TIME FRAME, AND ON THE AFTERNOON TIME FRAME, THAT 445 TO 545 TIME FRAME. SO THIS IS DAY ONE OPERATIONS THAT WE WOULD SEE. AND WE WERE REALLY CONSERVATIVE ON THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES GOING TO THE TERMINAL. THIS IS NOT BASED ON A TWO GATE FACILITY FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT. WE WANT TO LOOK TO THE WORST CASE OPTION, WHICH ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE 2020 FLIGHTS A DAY TYPE SCENARIO. SO IT'S A MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE STANCE BECAUSE YOU GOT TO PLAN FOR THE WORST, WHICH WE'RE DESIGNING TO THE BEST AT THIS POINT. SO MITCHELL IS THE ROUNDABOUT ACTUALLY PART OF FM 546 OR IS IT THEY'RE AN OFFSHOOT ROAD THAT THEN TAKES SOMEONE TO THE ROUNDABOUT. SO IT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE INTEGRATED AS A PART OF FM 546 OKAY. AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SPUR 399 ESSENTIALLY GETS OVERLAID THERE? THAT'S A GREAT SEGUE TO THIS ONE. OKAY. SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE, THIS IS THE SPUR 399 THAT WAS APPROVED THROUGH THE EIS ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS THROUGH TXDOT. WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS IT COMES AROUND THE SOUTH END OF THE AIRPORT. AND THIS SECTION OF FM 546, THAT WOULD EFFECTIVELY GO OFF NETWORK. AT THAT POINT, YOU CAN SEE THE DAILY TRAFFIC VOLUME OF 17,000 CARS GOES DOWN TO ONLY

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IT'S A UNIQUE SCENARIO. MOST AIRPORTS DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF HAVING ALTERNATE ENTRY POINTS TO THEIR PRIMARY FACILITY, SO THAT WOULD JUST BE AN ADDED BENEFIT THAT WILL HELP IMPROVE TRAFFIC AROUND THE SOUTHERN END AND SOUTHEASTERN PART OF MCKINNEY. MITCHELL DO WE HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT WHEN SPUR 399 MIGHT BE ONLINE? I KNOW FROM A LIGHTING STANDPOINT ON TXDOT'S WEBSITE IT SAYS 2027. I DON'T KNOW IF BARRY OR YOU HAVE AN UPDATED WELL THERE GARY. HE'S PROBABLY BETTER. GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL GARY GRAHAM, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING. SO IN OUR LATEST CONVERSATIONS WITH WITH TXDOT, THE 399 PIECE IS FULLY FUNDED. AND SO THEY HAVE DIVIDED THIS UP INTO THREE SEGMENTS ONE BID IN DECEMBER. THAT'S THE PIECE THAT OVERLAPS ON HIGHWAY FIVE, WHICH IS OFF THE SCREEN. THE NEXT PIECE WILL BE GO FROM WHERE IT TURNS OFF OF HIGHWAY FIVE AND OVER HERE TO AIRPORT. WE THAT PROJECT IS PROGRESSING A LITTLE BIT FASTER THAN THIS LAST PIECE, THIS THIRD SEGMENT. AND SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING BOTH OF THESE SEGMENTS GET LET SOMETIME 2027 2028. SO 2028, YOU WOULD EXPECT BASED ON WHAT YOU KNOW. AND I'M NOT HOLDING YOU TO THIS, THAT CHANGE ON THAT ONE COULD THEORETICALLY BE ABLE TO TAKE SPUR 399 FROM THE HOSPITAL IN MCKINNEY UP TO 380. THE PROJECT WOULD LET FOR CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT ABOUT A THREE YEAR CONSTRUCTION TIMEFRAME. OKAY, SO 20, 31, 2030, 2031 AND THAT THAT WAS MY SENSE INITIALLY. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. GARY CAN WHILE YOU'RE UP THERE CAN YOU. SO THE FROM MEDICAL CENTER TO HARRY MCKILLOP ESSENTIALLY HAS LED HAS BID IS BASICALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THIS POINT. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE AN INTERCHANGE AT HIGHWAY FIVE. IT'S GOING TO BE ESSENTIALLY AN INTERCHANGE AT STEWART, AT STEWART AND AN INTERCHANGE WHERE FIVE CONTINUES NORTH. CORRECT. IT'LL IT'LL YEAH, IT'LL SO THE ROAD WILL CURVE OVER AND THERE'LL BE AN OFF RAMP TO GO NORTH. AND YOU KNOW THAT. YEAH. FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS THAT SECTION IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. A TOUGH PLACE TO GO. I MEAN, TXDOT IS COMMITTED THAT ON ALL THE SEGMENTS OF HIGHWAY FIVE THAT THEY WILL NOT REDUCE CAPACITY DURING THE PEAK HOURS, YOU KNOW, SO DURING THE OFF PEAK HOURS, YOU MAY BE REDUCED TO ONE LANE, BUT DURING THE PEAK HOURS, FOR SURE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO REDUCE CAPACITY. SO YOU'LL AT LEAST HAVE TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION. AND YOU GO IN THAT AREA I THINK. YEAH, IT'S TWO LANES EACH DIRECTION. AND THEN ONCE IT STARTS FROM, YOU KNOW, THE INTERCHANGE WITH MCKILLOP TO YOU SAID THE INTERCHANGE WITH AIRPORTS, KIND OF THE SECOND SEGMENT. THE SECOND SEGMENT. YEAH. HOW MUCH OF THAT OVERLAPS LIKE I MEAN, JUST LOOKING AT THAT, THERE'S A SECTION RIGHT THERE AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN WHERE MCKILLOP GOES AWAY. LIKE WHAT DOES CAPACITY LOOK LIKE DURING THAT THREE YEARS THEY'RE COMMITTED TO. THERE'S SO MUCH TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA RIGHT. THAT IS COMING OUT FROM EAST OF MCKINNEY THROUGH THIS AREA THAT THEY'RE AGAIN COMMITTED NOT TO REMOVING CAPACITY. SO THEY'RE GOING TO STAGE CONSTRUCTION THAT ALLOWS THE EXISTING TRAFFIC TO BE IN EITHER ON A, YOU KNOW, TEMPORARY ROAD THAT THEY THEY CONSTRUCT OR, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WIDENING EXISTING LANES, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE TRAFFIC AROUND SO THEY CAN BUILD THIS OVER TO ABOUT HALFWAY BETWEEN AIRPORT AND COUCH IS WHERE IT GETS IT SHIFTS OFF MCKILLOP. AND THAT'S WHERE THE NEW ALIGNMENT OF JUST THE FREEWAY IS. MCKILLOP FROM THAT SECTION OVER ACTS AS THE FRONTAGE ROAD. SO BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE EXPRESSED OUR CONCERNS WITH, YOU KNOW, THE EXISTING TRAFFIC THAT'S THERE TODAY AND THE PROJECTED GROWTH OF NOT ONLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IN MCKINNEY, BUT OUT EAST AND OTHER, OTHER PORTIONS OF UNINCORPORATED COLLIN COUNTY OR PRINCETON, THAT WE NEED CAPACITY THROUGH HERE, AND IT CAN'T BE DIMINISHED DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASES OF THIS FREEWAY. AND THEY FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT. AND, GARY, TO JUST TO REITERATE, BECAUSE I'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH TXDOT AS WELL ON THIS VERY SUBJECT. YEAH. AS YOU'VE STATED

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YEAH. FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET CUSSED AT AND YELLED AT AND EVERYTHING ELSE FOR WHAT WE'VE PUT PEOPLE THROUGH. AND I GUESS THAT'S THAT'S BEEN MY ISSUE WITH THIS PROJECT ALL ALONG. IT'S NOT WHAT ARE WE DELIVERING? IT'S HOW ARE WE DELIVERING IT. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE HEAR OR TALKING WITH COUNTY STAFF BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 399, THE COUNTY IS WORKING ON A PLAN TO A NEW ALIGNMENT OF FM 546. SO FROM DOWN AT THE SOUTHERN END OF THE AIRPORT, IT WOULD GO DOWN AND OFF GENERALLY THAT DIRECTION TO TIE INTO THE EXISTING BRIDGE CROSSING OF THE EAST FORK. AND SO TXDOT AND COLLIN COUNTY IS WORKING ON THE LEADING THE DESIGN EFFORT. TXDOT WOULD EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCT THAT. AND SO THOSE TWO ENTITIES ARE WORKING ON ANOTHER SOLUTION TO HELP RELIEVE TRAFFIC, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ONLY WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE AIRPORT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEAR FROM COLLIN COUNTY IS, CAN'T YOU STOP GROWTH OUT IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH HAPPENING EAST AND THE PENINSULA SOUTH OF PRINCETON, NORTH OF PRINCETON, FARMERSVILLE, THAT AS PEOPLE ARE COMING EAST, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT ROUTES. TXDOT IS GETTING READY TO ADD LANES FIVE AND SIX TO EXISTING 380 FROM AIRPORT OUT THROUGH PRINCETON, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO TO HELP WITH THOSE CAPACITY ISSUES. BUT THERE'S SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT THAT I THINK THAT NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME CHALLENGES OUT HERE. THERE'S NO DENYING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF GROWTH IN THE TXDOT HASN'T KEPT UP WITH THE ROAD ROADS NEEDED TO SERVE ALL OF IT. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A REASON THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THEIR TRAFFIC OR THEIR THEIR THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS A IS A WAS A VERY AGGRESSIVE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC USING THE AIRPORT. AND SO AS WE EVALUATED THE OPTION, UNDERSTANDING THAT HOW THEY WOULD POTENTIALLY BANK THE FLIGHTS AND THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE THERE AT 730 TO 830 IN THE MORNING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROBABLY FLIGHTS ARE PROBABLY GOING TO ARRIVE HERE LATER IN THE DAY.

AND THAT'S WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET HERE AND BE USING THIS ROADWAY. WE THOUGHT IT

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YOU MAY BE 15 TO 20 MILES AN HOUR DURING THAT PEAK PERIOD. IT CAN BE SLOW IN THE MORNING, THOUGH. WE HAVE THAT SAME CONDITION AT AIRPORT. WE HAVE TRAFFIC BACKED UP AT AIRPORT AND HARRY MCKILLOP BACK OVER TO HERE AS WELL. AND SO WHAT WE ASKED IS COULD YOU DO A TRAFFIC

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SO BY INTRODUCING SOME OF THESE BREAKS IN TRAFFIC WITH A ROUNDABOUT, WE'RE ACTUALLY MAKING IT A SAFER SITUATION FOR DEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN IN THIS AREA. YES. WHEN YOU YOU PUT ANOTHER INTERSECTION THERE, IT'S CONFLICT POINT. BUT WE'RE WE ARE TRYING TO I MEAN WITH WITH THE POSITION THAT YOU'RE TAKING, MR. BELLER IT'S DON'T DEVELOP ANYTHING ELSE ALONG THE CORRIDOR. THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING. WELL, BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT IN 2027 TO A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN SOUTHERN COLLIN COUNTY THAT SAYS, COME TO MCKINNEY, TKI FLY TKI IT'S A BETTER EXPERIENCE THAN GOING TO DFW AND GOING TO LOVE FIELD. AND THEY'RE GOING TO HIT MEDICAL CENTER AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE UNDER A BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION FOR A DISASTER OF A TIME PERIOD RIGHT THERE. AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO GET ON 546. AND THERE'S GOING TO BE THE BEGINNINGS OF SOME OVERLAPPING TRAFFIC. AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO WALK RIGHT IN OR DRIVE RIGHT INTO THIS AND HAVE TO DEAL WITH A ROUNDABOUT FROM A BUNCH OF FRUSTRATED PRINCETON AND LOWRY CROSSING DRIVERS HAVING TO GO THROUGH A ROUNDABOUT AND RISK THEIR LIVES TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT ON A 730 IN THE MORNING. AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET HERE AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIKE, IS THIS BETTER? AND I THINK THAT I THINK THAT THAT'S A PROBLEM. I THINK THAT THAT'S THAT OUR DELIVERY OF SERVICE HERE, THAT WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT CLIENTS THAT THAT ULTIMATELY IS NOT GOING TO BE AN ATTRACTOR FOR US, THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT IT AND BE LIKE, WELL, THAT WAS ALMOST HARDER THAN GOING TO DFW.

THAT'S A THAT'S A DECISION. YOU KNOW, THE SEVEN OF YOU HAVE TO MAKE. YEAH. I MEAN, MAY I ASK A QUESTION? WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO PUT A TEMPORARY STOPLIGHT THERE FOR EASTBOUND TRAFFIC TO TURN LEFT INTO THE AIRPORT AND NOT INSTALL THE ROUNDABOUT UNTIL THE LOOP IS COMPLETED? SO IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? SO AN INTERSECTION CONTROL EVALUATION REPORT, ICE REPORT THAT WE DID THAT WAS AN OPTION. WE ACTUALLY EVEN INCLUDED THAT SLIP LANE FOR THE EASTBOUND TRAFFIC. SO IT WOULD NEVER HAVE TO HAVE TRAFFIC STOP AT THE SIGNAL. BUT YET SO IT'S AN IT IS AN OPTION IF WE WANTED TO GO THAT WAY. VEHICLE QUEUES WERE LONGER. AND, YOU KNOW, HAD WHAT WE FELT LIKE A BIGGER IMPACT ON THE OVERALL SYSTEM BY PUTTING THE SIGNAL IN, BECAUSE YOU HAVE SO MUCH LOST TIME WITH THE SIGNAL VERSUS, YOU KNOW, THAT YIELDING APPROACH WITH THE ROUNDABOUT. BUT WE'LL SEE THAT A BIT A LITTLE BETTER RESULT WHEN WE WHEN THEY FINISH THAT EVALUATION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO FOR US NEXT. AS TO MR. BELLER'S COMMENTS, I AGREE WITH HIM IN LARGE PART, BUT AT MEDICAL CENTER DRIVE, THAT'S BEYOND OUR CONTROL. WHETHER PEOPLE ARE DRIVING UP THERE AND THAT'S UP TO TEXDOT, CORRECT? YES, SIR. BUT AGAIN, THEY HAVE COMMITTED IN EVERY CONVERSATION THAT THERE WILL BE NO DEGRADATION OF CURRENT SERVICE AS IT SITS TODAY DURING THE PEAK HOURS OF TRAFFIC ALONG HIGHWAY FIVE. YES. 546. CAN YOU CONTINUE WITH THE PRESENTATION? THANK YOU. AND THEN ONE FINAL NOTE ON THAT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, BECAUSE THAT'S USUALLY THE HARDEST TIME OF ANY PROJECT. A BIG PORTION OF THAT ROUNDABOUT IS ACTUALLY BEING CONSTRUCTED OFF THE CURRENT FM 546. SO THE ONLY TIMES OF IMPACT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WHEN WE HAVE TO TIE IN THOSE TRANSITIONS. FROM THAT STANDPOINT. ALL RIGHT. SO PROBABLY EVERYONE IS HERE TO SEE NOW. SO FOR WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN OVER THE NEXT ABOUT FIVE SLIDES, I'M GOING TO PRESENT SOME RENDERINGS OF WHAT THE PROPOSED PROJECT WILL LOOK LIKE. KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE. SO AS I MENTIONED EARLY ON, THIS IS LOOKING AT THE BUILD OUT OF FIVE GATES FROM THE FACILITY, FROM IT BEING A TILT WALL CONSTRUCTION TO ANY OF THE OTHER TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION, WHICH WILL WORK WITH THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK OR CMAR HERE LATER THIS NEXT MONTH, ONCE THEY ONCE THEY'RE ON BOARD. SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE FACILITY OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE RENTAL CAR LOT WHERE PASSENGERS WOULD ACTUALLY PICK EVEN DROP OFF THEIR CAR TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE RENTAL CAR FACILITIES AT

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YOUR UBERS LIFTS. WE'RE PUTTING THEM ON THE LEFT SIDE TO KEEP THEM OUT OF THE WAY. WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE CURB LENGTH TO BE ABLE TO CO-LOCATE THEM ON THE SAME SIDE AS YOU WOULD FOR A PASSENGER DROP OFF AND PICKUP BECAUSE OF THAT, BECAUSE SHUTTLE BUSSES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, IF THEY HAVE TO ACCESS THE AIRPORT, WE ARE DESIGNATING SPACE UP HERE FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE YOU DO EXIT OFF TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THOSE VEHICLES. SO PRIMARILY THAT LEFT SIDE SPACE HERE, THIS WOULD JUST BE ALL YOUR UBER LYFT'S RIDESHARE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANIES. AND WITH THAT YOU'LL HAVE TWO, TWO, TWO THROUGH LANES. HISTORICALLY, WE ALL KNOW THIS. YOU OPERATE AT ANY AIRPORT. ONE OF THOSE THREE LANES IS ALWAYS BLOCKED. SO WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR THAT IN THE TRAFFIC WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN AT LEAST ONE THROUGH LANE. THAT SHOULD NOT BE IMPEDED BY A PASSENGER DROPPING OFF OR PICKING UP WITHIN THE FACILITY ITSELF. SO OFF TO THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THE SCREEN, THIS IS A LOT OF YOUR HANDICAP SPACES RIGHT HERE. AND OF COURSE, YOU HAVE THE PRIMARY PARKING SPOT. SO THIS PROBABLY GIVES YOU THE BEST VIEW OF SEEING WHAT THE ENVIRONMENT WOULD BE LIKE IF YOU WERE TRYING TO GET ONTO AN AIRCRAFT. THERE ARE NO PASSENGER BOARDING BRIDGES. WHEN WE GET TO THE RENDERINGS A LITTLE BIT LATER, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT PASSENGERS WILL SIMPLY WALK UNDER A COVERED AWNING AND THEY'LL GO THROUGH DESIGNATED WALKWAYS TO GO THROUGH WALKWAYS UP TO THE AIRCRAFT ITSELF. THE BEAUTY IS THIS ALLOWS DUAL LOADING PASSENGERS. IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO LONG BEACH OR PUNTA GORDA, OR THESE OTHER AIRPORTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT ALLOW GROUND LOADING, YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET ON THE AIRPLANE ON THE FRONT AND THE BACK, WHICH IS A MORE EFFICIENT OPERATION AND WHAT SOME OF THE AIRLINES WOULD PREFER IN THIS INSTANCE. THIS IS A NICE OPPORTUNITY FOR A PIECE OF ARTWORK TO GO IN FRONT OF THE FACILITY. THIS IS NOT A FINALIZED WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN. IT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY. THE TIKI I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC WONDER WHAT TIKI IS. THAT IS THE AIRPORT IDENTIFIER AT DFW. IT'S SIMPLE. IT'S DFW LOVE FIELDS DAL FOR DALLAS. I CAN'T SAY WHY TIKI WAS SELECTED FOR MCKINNEY. THAT WAS PROBABLY WAY BEYOND WHAT I WAS EVEN BORN. BUT WHAT THAT IS, IS THAT'S YOUR BRANDING FOR THE AIRPORT.

WHENEVER SOMEONE FILES IN TO DEPART FROM AN AIRPORT, THEY'RE GOING TO TYPE IN MCKINNEY. TIKI IS ACTUALLY GOING TO POP UP. SO ONE OF THE INITIATIVES IS TO REALLY INGRAIN THAT INTO PEOPLE'S MIND THAT THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO OPERATE AT THAT AIRPORT. IT'S ALSO A DUAL PURPOSE. THERE'S A LOT OF UTILITIES, A LOT OF GENERATORS, A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO SCREEN THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE SITE PLAN. SO WE'RE USING THIS AS A BARRIER TO PREVENT. WE DON'T WANT THE FIRST IMAGE. PEOPLE COME UP TO THE MCKINNEY AND BE LIKE, HEY, LOOK AT THIS BEAUTIFUL GENERATOR. SO THIS WILL HELP SCREEN THAT AND PROVIDE THAT THAT CUE. THIS WOULD BE THE VIEW AS THE CAR PULLS UP INTO THE PASSENGER DROP OFF AREA. SO YOU CAN SEE MCKINNEY NATIONAL AIRPORT SIGNAGE, OF COURSE, ANY TYPE OF MURAL ARTWORK. AND THEN THE PEOPLE THAT WERE DOING THE RENTAL CARS, THEY WOULD JUST WALK RIGHT INTO HERE AND DROP OFF THEIR KEYS OR LEAVE THAT FACILITY TO WALK OVER TO THE RENTAL CAR LOT IN ITSELF. THIS IS INSIDE. THIS IS FOR CHECK IN AND TICKETING. THIS IS WHERE TYPICALLY YOU'D GET YOUR BOARDING PASS OR YOUR BAG TAGS AND DROP DROP YOUR ACTUAL BAGS. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS IN THE PAST ABOUT, HEY, DOING A BAG DROP. WE'VE BEEN WORKING EXTENSIVELY WITH TSA, AND WE FOUND THE MOST EFFECTIVE SOLUTION IS TO KEEP THE BAG BELT BEHIND THE CHECK IN COUNTERS, BECAUSE IT WAS JUST GOING TO CREATE A OPERATIONAL ISSUE BETWEEN THE AIRLINES, THE AIRPORT AND THE TSA. SO WE FOUND THE BEST SOLUTION IS PRETTY STANDARD, WHAT YOU WOULD DO AT ANY OTHER AIRPORT. SO YOU CHECK YOUR BAG THERE, THE AIRLINE GATE OR THE AIRLINE AGENT WOULD THEN TAKE IT AND PUT IT ON THE BAG BELT BEHIND YOU, SO YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO DO ANYTHING ELSE. ONCE THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED, THERE'S A WALKWAY ACCESS POINT. THE TSA SECURITY ENTRANCE IS OVER HERE IN THE SIDE BAGGAGE CLAIM, WHICH WILL EVENTUALLY SEE IT'S OVER HERE IN THE BACKSIDE OF THIS FACILITY. WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS AFTER YOU'VE CLEARED TSA, THIS WILL BE THE HOLD ROOM SPACE.

THIS IS WHERE WHILE YOU'RE WAITING FOR YOUR AIRCRAFT, THESE ARE THE GATE SIGNS. YOU'LL SEE ONE, TWO, THREE THROUGHOUT IT. AND THESE WILL BE WHERE YOU WOULD ACTUALLY EXIT THE WHOLE ROOM ITSELF TO GO OUT TO THE AIRCRAFT. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PUT AS MUCH GLASS AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE IT'S JUST A COOL, UNIQUE THING TO BE ABLE TO SIT THERE AND BE AT THE SAME LEVEL OF WHAT YOUR AIRCRAFT IS. IT'S NOT. A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE GET TO DO THAT, ESPECIALLY IN THIS MARKET, OUTSIDE OF GOING TO A GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT. AND THEN RIGHT HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ACTUAL TERMINAL BUILDING ITSELF WILL BE CONCESSIONS. IT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND SMALLER, BECAUSE THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE MOST PLACES THE CONCESSIONS ARE THEIR OWN ENTITY IN ITSELF. SO THINGS WILL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH WITH THE AIRPORT. ON THE MANAGEMENT SIDE IS IF A CONCESSIONAIRE COMES HERE FOR COFFEE FOR, LET'S SAY, ALCOHOL SERVICES, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY WHERE THEY CAN COLLECT THOSE THINGS AND GO BACK TO THEIR SEAT. SO YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO ACTUALLY, IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE FINANCIALLY TO HAVE FIVE SEATS FOR A BAR OR A COFFEE STYLE SETUP. SO THIS HAS THE ABILITY FOR ALL PASSENGERS TO GET SNACKS, GRAB AND GO. IT

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SO IN DOING THAT, WE PARED DOWN THE PROGRAM. AND YOU SAW WHAT MITCHELL PROPOSED TODAY OR PRESENTED TODAY IS THE CONCEPT THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS A 40 500 ZERO SQUARE FOOT TERMINAL. WE WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT IS. AND WE KIND OF BROKE IT OUT INTO THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OF THESE. AND THESE ARE PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES BASED OFF OF ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS. WE ARE BRINGING ON A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE, AND THEY WILL HELP US WITH COSTING OF THIS AND THESE. THESE PRICES WILL WILL SHIFT A LITTLE BIT AND MAYBE A LITTLE MORE HERE AND A LITTLE LESS THERE DEPENDING ON THE PORTION OF THE PROJECT. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE TERMINAL APRON PAVEMENT IS AN EXPENSIVE COMPONENT, BUT IT'S A NECESSARY THING FOR THE FIRST PHASE, AS WE NEED THE SPACE FOR THE AIRPLANES TO GATE AND TO PARK OVERNIGHT. AND WE ALSO NEED THE SPACE FOR THE ABILITY, ESPECIALLY ON WEEKS LIKE THIS WHERE WE NEED THE ABILITY TO DE-ICE TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF SERVICE. PARALLEL TAXIWAY CHARLIE. THAT IS A BIG COMPONENT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ANTICIPATE RECEIVING FEDERAL FUNDING FOR AS WE GO FORWARD. BUT IT IS A COMPONENT THAT NOT ONLY OPENS UP FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NECESSARY FOR ANY AVIATION RELATED USES ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE AIRPORT, KIND OF THE FUTURE EXPANSION OF TKI, BUT ALSO IT'S IT WOULD PROVIDE SERVICE TO THIS PHASE, BUT IT WOULD PROVIDE SERVICE TO OTHER USES ON THE EAST SIDE AS WELL.

SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DUAL USE PURPOSE OF THAT, IT'S THAT THIS IS INTEGRAL TO ANYTHING WE WANT TO DO ON THE EAST SIDE. FM 546 WE HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT CONNECTION POINT AND THE SCENARIOS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH TXDOT TO COME UP WITH THE BEST ACCESS FROM THAT ROADWAY, BOTH NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. PARKING, OF COURSE, IS A

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WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF LANDING RIGHT NOW ON THE TILT WALL STRUCTURE THAT YOU SEE IN THE RENDERINGS. WE THINK THAT'S THE BEST CASE FOR OPERATIONS AT THE AIRPORT, BUT ALSO CONSTRUCTABILITY AND FLEXIBILITY, FRANKLY. SO THAT GIVES US A TOTAL PROJECT COST OF 72 MILLION. LIKE I SAID, THAT'S DOWN FROM THE $300 MILLION COST OF THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL, SOMETHING WE WORKED REALLY HARD TO GET THAT COST DOWN AS LOW AS POSSIBLE. AND AS THAT THAT NUMBER GETS FINE TUNED. I WILL DEFINITELY BE BACK HERE IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL TO KEEP YOU UPDATED ON THAT. AND WITH THAT, WE ALSO HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT PROPOSED FUNDING SOURCES. SO OF THE $72 MILLION BACK IN APRIL AND MAY OF 2024, THE EDC AND CDC HAVE ALREADY GRANTED MONEY TOWARDS THIS PROJECT FOR DESIGN. THAT'S THE 1.7 MILLION AND $3.6 MILLION THAT EACH OF THOSE BOARDS AWARDED TO THE PROJECT. SO WE COULD DO THE EAST SIDE PROGRAMING AND DESIGN DOCUMENTS.

THE NEXT THING ON THE LIST IS A TIFIA LOAN. TIFIA IS A FEDERAL LOAN PROGRAM THAT OFFERS A VERY LOW INTEREST RATE FOR TRANSPORTATION RELATED PROJECTS, OF WHICH AIRPORT PROJECTS ARE ELIGIBLE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE BUILD AMERICA BUREAU OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IN WASHINGTON, D.C. ON THIS PROCESS, AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS GETTING APPROVAL FOR THAT TIFIA ALONE. SO ESSENTIALLY, WHAT IT OFFERS US IS AN INTEREST RATE THAT'S HALF OF THE 30 YEAR TREASURY RATE. SO WHEREAS A TYPICAL RATE MIGHT BE A 4% INTEREST, WE COULD GET IT AT HALF OF THAT AT 2%, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE RATES ARE AT THE TIME OF APPROVAL. THE REASON IT SAYS WITH INTERIM FINANCING IS WE ARE ASKING FOR THAT TIFIA LOAN TO BE COVERED BY OUR MCKINNEY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, AND WE HAVE ASKED THEM TO APPROVE INTERIM FINANCING TO GET THE MONEY IN PLACE WHILE WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE LOAN PROCESS WITH THE BUILD AMERICA BUREAU. AND ONCE THOSE DOLLARS ARE IN THE FROM THE LOAN, WE WOULD BUY OUT THE INTERIM FINANCING FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. THE REASON THAT NUMBER IS $30 MILLION IS THE TIFIA LOAN IS ONLY ELIGIBLE FOR UP TO 49% OF ELIGIBLE PROJECT COSTS. AND OF THE 72, APPROXIMATELY $60 MILLION ARE ELIGIBLE COSTS, ACCORDING TO THAT PROGRAM. SO WE'RE MAXIMIZING THAT BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY THE CHEAPEST INTEREST RATES OR BEST MONEY THAT WE CAN PUT TOWARDS THAT. WE ARE ALSO ASKING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR A GRANT OF $22.4 MILLION. THEY ARE LIMITED ON THE PORTIONS OF THE PROJECT THAT THEY ARE ELIGIBLE UNDER STATE STATUTE TO FUND PRIMARILY, WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE ARE YOUR ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, YOUR PARKING AND DRIVEWAYS AND UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THEY'RE VERY LIMITED IN WHAT THEY CAN FUND AS WELL. BOTH THE EDC AND CDC FINANCING COMES FROM SALES TAX REVENUES, SO IT STAYS AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY TAXES THAT WE HAD PROPOSED PREVIOUSLY.

THE DEBT SERVICE ON EACH OF THESE WOULD BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN ONE AND A HALF AND $2 MILLION ANNUALLY, WHICH IS A SMALL, RELATIVELY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THEIR ANNUAL REVENUES THAT ARE COMING IN. SO WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE WITH LIMITED IMPACT ON THEIR THEIR FUND BALANCES, BUT ALSO ON THEIR THEIR CASH FLOW ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. SO WHAT THAT DOES IS IT LEAVES US WITH THE FUNDING GAP. SO WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE FUNDING GAP, THIS IS THE AMOUNT

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AND I'M MAKING A STATEMENT. IT'S MORE OF A QUESTION. CALL IT TEN YEARS 15 THAT WENT OUT TO THE VOTERS FOR GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT AND IT FAILED. BUT YET THEY ARE NOW AIRPORTS THAT ARE

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EVENING MAYOR, COUNCIL, THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. ADAM GIAMBETTI WJ ADVISORS. IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO ONE OF THE BIG ONE THINGS YOU KNOW WITH YOUR PROJECT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IS YOU, AS MITCHELL POINTED OUT, IS YOU'RE A GREENFIELD SITE. SO YOU ARE HAVING TO KIND OF START FROM SCRATCH. YOU DON'T HAVE THE TAXIWAY INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE, YOU DON'T HAVE THE APRON, YOU DON'T HAVE THE TERMINAL BUILDING. SO A LOT OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING BACK HISTORICALLY IS THEY HAD A LOT OF THAT ALREADY IN PLACE. THEY ALREADY HAD A TERMINAL TEMPORARY TERMINAL BUILDING IN PLACE. THEY TOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE RISK UP FRONT WHEN THEY WERE BUILDING THAT PROJECT TEN, 20 YEARS AGO. A COUPLE RECENT EXAMPLES WHERE THE FACILITIES DIDN'T EXIST IS UP AT PAINE FIELD, WHERE BOEING IS MAKING THEIR WIDEBODY AIRCRAFT. THAT WAS A P3. SO A PRIVATE DEVELOPER CAME IN, SPENT ABOUT $50 MILLION TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE EXISTING TAXIWAY AND RUNWAYS THERE. BUT THEY BUILT IN SOME PARKING, AND THEY BUILT IN A TWO AND A HALF GATE FACILITY, WHERE THEY WERE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT SEATAC HAS LIMITED CAPACITY TO GROW, AND THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT A SOURCE WHERE THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, DEVELOP THE PASSENGER TRAFFIC UP THERE IN THE NORTH NORTHWEST. SOME OTHER EXAMPLES THAT ARE OCCURRING. WE LOOKED AT NEW HAVEN. THEY ALREADY HAD THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE. AMERICAN AIRLINES WAS SERVING THAT THAT AIRPORT. THEY LEFT AVALOS USING THAT. BUT THERE IS A P3 AGREEMENT IN PLACE WHERE EVENTUALLY THEY WILL BUILD ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AIRPORT, A NEW TERMINAL FACILITY. BUT THAT AGAIN IS PRIVATE DOLLARS FOR THE PUBLIC AIRPORTS. WE SAW. IT'S A COMBINATION OF CITY FUNDS, FAA GRANTS, AS WELL AS STATE GRANTS. SO THEY ALREADY HAD SOME FACILITY FACILITIES IN PLACE.

THEY ALREADY MET THE 10,000IN PAYMENTS. SO THEY GOT DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES. AND SO THERE WAS A COMBINATION OF THOSE FUNDS. BUT IN EVERY PROJECT THAT WE'VE SEEN, IT'S EITHER BEEN PRIVATE DOLLARS OR THERE HAS BEEN CITY DOLLARS THAT'S BEEN USED TO DEVELOP THOSE FACILITIES FURTHER TO EXPAND THE PASSENGER SERVICES. LET ME DIG INTO THE PRIVATE DOLLARS, IF I CAN, FOR A SECOND. AND THIS IS DIGGING IN. YOU MAY NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS WITH WHEN THE PRIVATE DOLLARS CAME IN TO PAINE FIELD AND OR NEW HAVEN, WAS THERE A BACKSTOP TO ANY MUNICIPALITIES GENERAL FUNDS INVOLVED IN THAT? WAS THERE WAS DID THEY NEGOTIATE SOMETHING WHERE, HEY, YOU KNOW, IF THE AIRPORT REVENUES AREN'T THERE, WE'RE HITTING YOU NEW HAVEN OR SEATTLE OR WHATEVER CITY IT IS TO BACKSTOP THIS AND GUARANTEE IT. SO I'LL LOOK, I'LL GO TO PAINE FIELD FIRST, MY UNDERSTANDING AND I'LL AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU TO MAKE SURE I CONFIRM THAT. BUT PAINE FIELD, THERE WASN'T A BACKSTOP BECAUSE IT WAS BASED ON BUILDING THE TERMINAL BUILDING, AND THEY HAD SOME AIRLINE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE BEFORE THEY STARTED THAT PROJECT, ABOUT 18 MONTHS IN ADVANCE WITH IT WAS AT TIME THREE AIRLINES. NOW I BELIEVE IT'S JUST ALASKA SERVING THEM.

NEW HAVEN IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. SO RIGHT, THE CITY WAS BACKSTOPPING ABOUT 1 MILLION TO $2 MILLION A YEAR IN THEIR TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO FINANCE THAT BUILDING AND KEEP IT OPERATIONAL. BASED ON ARTICLES THAT I READ IN THE PAST, THE DEAL WITH AVPORTS WITH THE P3 AGREEMENT IS THEY GOT THE RIGHTS FOR, I BELIEVE, UP TO 40 YEARS TO DEVELOP THAT TERMINAL. TO DATE, THEY HAVE NOT DEVELOPED THAT TERMINAL. THEY'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS, THEY'RE STILL WORKING OUT, BUT THEY'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD UP THEIR REVENUES BASED ON THE EXISTING FACILITY. SO THEY'VE DONE SOME WORK ON THE FACILITIES BEING ADDING SOME BAGGAGE, REPURPOSING IT TO HELP WITH THE PASSENGER FLOW AS WELL AS NEW APRON. BUT THEY HAVEN'T FULLY COMMITTED ALL THOSE CAPITAL DOLLARS TO DATE. SO AT A CERTAIN TIME THEY WILL. BUT THAT WAS MORE OF A LONG TERM AGREEMENT WHERE IN THAT P3 STRUCTURE THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY TAKING THE RISK. BUT THERE ARE OTHER P3 STRUCTURES WHERE THE CITY IS THE. BACKSTOP IN APSTAR IS PARTLY OWNED OR WHOLLY OWNED BY GOLDMAN SACHS. IS THAT CORRECT? WHICH ONE? I'M SORRY, AVATAR THE P3 AND NEW HAVEN OR NO? OH NO. SO THAT SO OUT OF PORT. SORRY, SORRY. THEY WERE BACKED GOLDMAN SACHS FUND OKAY. CORRECT. I HAD A QUESTION IN THERE SOMEWHERE, IF I REMEMBER. I'LL COME BACK. ADAM, THANK YOU SO MUCH. NO WORRIES. THANK YOU GUYS. BEFORE I GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE PROPOSED FUNDING MECHANISM? ONE OTHER THING I DID FAIL TO MENTION WHEN I WAS UP HERE, ONCE WE BEGAN OPERATIONS AT THE AIRPORT, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WILL DO IS APPLY FOR PFC PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGES AT THE AIRPORT. THIS IS A MECHANISM THAT HAS TO BE APPROVED THROUGH THE FAA. BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY A FEE THAT'S ADDED ON TO TICKETS THAT IS INTENDED TO REIMBURSE THE AIRPORT FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. SO IF WE HAVE

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AND CONSTRUCTION BEGINNING IN MAY OF THIS COMING YEAR OR OUR CURRENT YEAR. TERMINAL OPENING IN FOURTH QUARTER. SO FALL TO WINTER OF 2026. SO IT'S A PRETTY QUICK SCHEDULE. WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS OF THE PRIMARY AIRLINE THAT WE'RE TALKING TO. AND THAT'S KIND OF DRIVING US FORWARD. BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE ON THE MILESTONE DATES THAT I WANTED TO NOTE TONIGHT BEFORE I ENDED. SO WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR THURSDAY NIGHT OVER AT OLD SETTLERS. 630 TO 830. SO THE E DOCUMENTS ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE AND THE COMMENT PERIOD IS OPEN SO PEOPLE CAN ACCESS THAT AND CAN PROVIDE COMMENTS. WE ARE HAVING A PUBLIC MEETING ON THURSDAY. HOWEVER, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SNOWMAGEDDON. SO WE ARE IF THE WINTER STORMS MATERIALIZE AS THEY ARE SAYING THEY WILL, I'LL BE STANDING THERE IN CASE ANYONE SHOWS UP AND I'LL HAVE THE MATERIALS FOR THEM TO. AND I THINK MITCHELL'S GOING TO JOIN ME JUST IN CASE WE DON'T WE DON'T WANT TO NOT BE THERE IN CASE SOMEONE FIGHTS THROUGH THE SNOW TO GET TO US. BUT WE WILL BE PROPOSING A FOLLOW UP MEETING THE FOLLOWING THURSDAY, THE 16TH, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A FOLLOW UP MEETING. BUT WE'RE GOING TO WAIT TO PUBLISH NOTICE FOR THAT SUNDAY AFTER WE SEE IF THE WEATHER MATERIALIZES. BARRY, WHEN YOU WHEN SOMEONE'S COMMENTING ON THAT, CAN YOU ELABORATE? WHO ARE THEY COMMENTING TO? ARE THEY COMMENTING TO BARRY AT BE SHELTERED AT MCKINNEY, TEXAS.ORG? I HOPE NOT. SO I'M GOING TO LET MITCHELL JUMP IN, BUT IF IT'S ME THEN PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I'M GOING TO THANK YOU.

STEP BACK I GUESS THE JOKE'S ON BURIED IS BURIED. YES IT IS NO. SO IN THE PROCESS ON THE AIRPORT'S WEBSITE, THERE IS A COMMENT SECTION AND IT DETAILS. THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS YOU CAN SUBMIT A COMMENT. YOU CAN ACTUALLY CLICK A BUTTON. IT'LL TAKE YOU DIRECTLY TO. YOU CAN PROVIDE YOUR COMMENT THAT ACTUALLY GOES TO GARVER, TO OUR ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS. WE COLLECT ALL THE COMMENTS. AND THEN ONCE THE PERIOD CLOSES AT THAT POINT, WE THEN ADDRESS THEM. WE SUBMIT OUR RESPONSES TO TEX DOT AVIATION FOR THEM TO CONSIDER. AND AT THAT POINT, IF THEY FEEL LIKE WE'VE ADDRESSED THE COMMENTS APPROPRIATELY, THEY WOULD THEN ISSUE THE FINDING OF NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT. OKAY, SO THE EVENTS THAT WE'RE HOSTING, EVENTS, SLASH EVENTS, THESE ARE NOT PUBLIC Q&A SESSIONS. THESE ARE COMING TO ABSORB SOME MATERIAL. AND THEN IF YOU WISH TO MAKE A COMMENT, THERE'S A PROCESS TO DO SO ONLINE. YEAH THERE'S VARIOUS FORMS. YOU CAN EVEN MAIL ONE TO OUR OFFICE. YOU CAN EMAIL IT AT THE PUBLIC MEETINGS. WE HAVE BOARDS ACROSS THE ROOM, SEVERAL OF US STATIONED THERE, SO THAT WE CAN INDIVIDUALLY ASK THOSE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. AND THEN OF COURSE, THIS PRESENTATION WILL BE KIND OF LOOPING ON THE BACKGROUND. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND FOR THOSE THAT AND WHICH WILL BE PROBABLY EVERYBODY THAT MAKES A DECISION TO NOT TRAVERSE THE SNOW ON THURSDAY. THOSE MATERIALS WILL BE AVAILABLE ONLINE AS WELL WHERE THEY CAN MAKE COMMENTS. YES, THEY ARE ACTUALLY ALL ONLINE NOW. YEAH OKAY. AND WHERE WHERE CAN THEY FIND THEM EXACTLY. IT'S THE AIRPORT'S WEBSITE. THERE'S VARIOUS WAYS TO GET THERE. UNFORTUNATELY, THE WAY I'VE ALWAYS GONE TO IS FLY TIKI.COM.

IT'S THE FIRST THING YOU SEE ON THE WEBSITE. OF COURSE IT IS CITY OF MCKINNEY WEBSITE WEB PAGE IN ITSELF, SO THERE'S VARIOUS WAYS TO GET TO IT. PERFECT. THANK YOU. I'LL JUST

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AND BIRDS AROUND AIRPORTS ARE BAD THINGS. AND THEN THE OTHER WAS LANDSCAPING ALONG THE ROADWAY AS WELL FOR THE SAME PURPOSE. SO THE REALITY OF THE SITE PLAN IS IT'S A SITE PLAN THAT MEETS THE CODES AND ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, WITH A COUPLE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS, WHICH IS WHICH IS WHY IT'S BEING BROUGHT FORWARD. AND ONCE AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING THAT ATTACHED. I THOUGHT I HAD AND WAS WAS WRONG. SO WE GOT IT ATTACHED THIS MORNING WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION. I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT OUR ACTION TONIGHT IS BEING ASKED TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT. THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN WILL BE APPROVED BY P AND Z NEXT WEEK. THAT IS CORRECT. THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING NEXT WEEK, JANUARY 14TH. I BELIEVE THEY START THEIR MEETINGS AT SIX SIX. IN PRIOR TO APPROVAL AND PUBLIC HEARING. GENERAL PUBLIC WILL HAVE HAD

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THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT OUT LOUD. AND I AND I, SINCE I MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT P AND Z, I WANT TO I THINK I NEED TO ADD THAT OF COURSE THE EXPECTATION OF P AND Z IS THEIR ROLE, AND THEIR JOB IS TO LOOK AT IT AS AS IT RELATES TO LAND USE AND HOW IT CONFORMS WITH OUR CONFORMS OR DOESN'T CONFORM. IF IT WERE THE CASE WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND USE PLAN, NOT POLICY, NOT NOTHING ELSE JUST DOES IT. DOES IT MEET THE LAND USE THAT IS BEING PROPOSED, THE PROJECT MEET THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH DICTATES THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES AND DRIVE AISLES AND SETBACKS. SO THERE WILL, THERE WILL WILL BE SPECIFICALLY TO LAND USE. AND DOES IT MEET THE ORDINANCES AND WHATNOT. CORRECT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU BARRY. THANK YOU

[Update on DART Railroad Crossing Projects]

THEY'RE RELATED TO THE DART RAILROAD. SO THEY'RE ALL EXPENSIVE PROJECTS AND THERE'S COMPLICATIONS WITH THEM. SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT PROJECTS. WILMOTH ROAD EXTENDING EAST FROM HIGHWAY FIVE OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS. WE A PROPOSED NEW CROSSING OF LAMAR STREET OF THE DART LINE AND THEN THE EXISTING BROAD STREET CROSSING. BROAD STREET GOES UNDERNEATH THE EXISTING TRACKS. BUT IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, YOU KNOW WHY WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT TONIGHT. SO FIRST WILMOTH ROAD. THIS IS WILMOTH IS BEING SYSTEMATICALLY IMPROVED FROM THE WEST TO THE EAST. WE ADDED LANES TO OR EXCUSE ME, THREE AND FOUR FROM REDBUD OVER TO HIGHWAY FIVE. A COUPLE YEARS AGO. WE HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT TO EXTEND IT EAST ACROSS HIGHWAY FIVE. IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT INTERSECTION THERE TODAY, IT'S A BIG CREEK CULVERT JUST TO THE EAST OF HIGHWAY FIVE. SO SOME MAJOR CULVERTS HAVE TO BE INSTALLED TO CROSS THAT. BUT THEN THIS ROAD, WILMOTH WILL EVENTUALLY REPLACE WHAT IS MCINTYRE ROAD, WHICH IS AN OFFSET INTERSECTION TO THE SOUTH TO IMPROVE MOBILITY. THE BIGGER PICTURE, THOUGH, IS THE RED LINE THAT I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED. THAT'S FROM HIGHWAY FIVE EAST ACROSS THE EAST FORK OF THE TRINITY RIVER AND ACROSS THE US 380 BYPASS. PROPOSED ALIGNMENT. WE FEEL AS A STAFF THAT WILMOTH IS PRETTY MUCH INSTRUMENTAL TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT AREA AROUND THE DART TRACKS. I'M GONNA HIGHLIGHT THAT CIRCLE. THIS IS SOME INDUSTRIAL AREA THAT THE MDC AREA GROUP HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON DEVELOPING. IT'S GOT A LARGE POTENTIAL FOR INDUSTRIAL USE THERE, BUT WE NEED TO IMPROVE ACCESS. AND SO THIS IS THIS IS IMPROVING ACCESS. ADDITIONALLY, AS YOU THINK ABOUT THAT RED LINE, IT PROVIDES EAST WEST ACCESS TO THE EASTERN PORTION OF OUR ETJ FARTHER EASTERN PORTIONS OF COLLIN COUNTY. THERE ISN'T REALLY ANOTHER CROSSING. YOU HAVE US 380 TO THE SOUTH. YOU HAVE US 380 BYPASS THAT CROSSES OVER THE CREEK. BUT OTHER THAN WILMOTH, THERE ISN'T ANY CROSSING IN BETWEEN 75 DOWN TO 380. SO THAT ROADWAY REALLY PROVIDES A REGIONAL MOBILITY BENEFIT. THIS IS A EXHIBIT OF SHOWING THE REALIGNMENT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW. IT'S UNDER DESIGN. HOPEFULLY GO TO CONSTRUCTION EARLY NEXT YEAR.

THAT DASHED LINE ENDS JUST TO THE WEST OF THE EXISTING DART TRACKS, SO THEY WON'T. THIS PROJECT DOES NOT INTERSECT THOSE YET, BUT WE'RE SETTING UP THE STAGE FOR THAT NEXT PIECE THAT WE NEED TO ANSWER. THIS IS THE CROSSING THAT IS TODAY. THAT PICTURE ON THE TOP RIGHT. DO WE WANT TO KEEP THIS AT GRADE OR DO WE WANT TO DO THE BOTTOM LEFT? IT SHOWS YOU WHAT IT COULD LOOK

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AND. PUT THE GRADE SEPARATION IN. THERE ARE SOME BENEFITS TO THAT GRADE SEPARATION MUCH SAFER THAN AT GRADE. YOU KNOW, IT PROVIDES CONNECTIVITY TO WILMOTH THAT YOU KNOW IS ALREADY UNDER DESIGN. AND FOR THE ADC PROPERTIES THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE TIES TO THE FUTURE BYPASS. SO IT WOULD BE A GOOD RELIEF ROUTE FOR THOSE INDUSTRIAL TRAFFIC TO GO OVER TO ACCESS THE NEW FREEWAY. WE HAVE APPLIED FOR AN FRA, FRA GRANT TO OFFSET THOSE COSTS.

UNFORTUNATELY, OUR GRANT PROPOSALS FOR THE ANYTHING ALONG THESE ROADWAYS ALONG THE DART LINES ISN'T THE MOST COMPETITIVE BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY ABOUT 8 TO 10 TRAINS PER WEEK. SO AS THE FRA IS EVALUATING THESE GRANT PROPOSALS, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THE BIGGEST BANG FOR THE BUCK.

HOW MUCH SAFETY IMPROVEMENT ARE WE MAKING? WE THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT. THERE IS SAFETY BENEFITS. WE'VE TALKED TO DART. WE'VE TALKED TO DO YOU KNOW WHO'S THE FREIGHT OPERATOR. THEY ALL AGREE IT'S A GOOD PROJECT. BUT WHEN THE FRA IS COMPARING THESE WITH PROJECTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, OUR APPLICATIONS MAY NOT WEIGH AS HIGH. SO WE HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT ON OUR LAST SUBMITTAL. THAT WAS FOR ABOUT $4.5 MILLION FOR THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING. PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING FOR THIS WE'LL GET FEEDBACK. IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL OR UNSUCCESSFUL, WE'LL GET SOME FEEDBACK TO UNDERSTAND HOW OUR GRANT APPLICATION WEIGHED. WE DID HAVE A 20% COST FOR THIS PROJECT. SO FOR WHATEVER PHASE, THE TOTAL ESTIMATES RIGHT NOW IS $27 MILLION. SO AGAIN, NOT CHEAP TO PUT THIS GRADE SEPARATION IN THERE. WHAT WOULD BE THE COST? I'M SORRY GARY, WHAT WOULD BE THE COST TO DO AT GRADE IMPROVEMENTS. YOU KNOW, IT'D BE REALLY A TYPICAL ROADWAY. THE COST IS THE IT'S THE BRIDGE PIECE. I'M GOING TO GUESS. GOSH. THE ACTUAL GRADE SEPARATION, MAYBE IT'S I MEAN, THE AT GRADE CROSSING AT THE TRACKS INSTEAD OF 27 MILLION, MAYBE IT'S 5 MILLION. YOU KNOW, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE. YOU DO HAVE TO UPGRADE THE TRACKS THEMSELVES WHERE THE CROSSING IS. WE JUST PAID, FOR INSTANCE, TO AT LOUISIANA AND VIRGINIA, WHERE WE PUT THE GRADE CROSSING, THE AT GRADE CROSSING BACK THERE, THE IMPROVEMENTS, THE QUAD GATES THAT FOR THOSE THAT TWO LANE ROAD WAS EACH ONE OF THEM WAS ABOUT $600,000. SO NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A ULTIMATE SIX LANE. SO SCALE UP THAT A LITTLE BIT WIDER OF A SEGMENT.

SO AND THAT'S NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THAT FRA GRANT FUNDING I'M ASSUMING THAT COULD APPLY. BUT IT WOULD NOT I MEAN YOU'RE NOT IT DOESN'T HAVE THE SAFETY BENEFIT AS MUCH AS THE GRADE SEPARATION. SO IT WOULD MEAN BY DOING THE QUAD GATES SET IT UP FOR EVENTUAL QUIET ZONE WHERE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE MAKING IT VERY HARD FOR VEHICLES TO CROSS WHILE A TRAIN IS COMING AT WITH AN AT GRADE CROSSING. SO THERE'S SLIGHT SAFETY BENEFIT, BUT IT JUST WOULDN'T COMPETE VERY WELL.

THANK YOU. THERE IS AN ANCILLARY BENEFIT TO THE OVERPASS AND THAT IS GOING TO RELATE TO THE LAMAR CROSSING. WHEN WE WANT TO ADD A NEW CROSSING, A GRADE CROSSING AT ANOTHER LOCATION. DART REQUIRES YOU TO EITHER CLOSE TO CLOSE TWO CROSSINGS BASICALLY. SO IF WE DID A GRADE SEPARATION AT THIS LOCATION, THAT WOULD COUNT AS ONE OF THE CROSSINGS THAT WERE ELIMINATING. SO THERE'S A BENEFIT TO THAT. SO THAT SHIFTS TO LAMAR HERE. YES, SIR. CAN I THE DART REQUIREMENT.

THAT'S JUST A DART POLICY ON THEIR LINES. SO ACTUALLY THAT'S PRETTY MUCH STANDARD AMONGST ALL RAILROAD LINES. AND THEN ACTUALLY AS OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH WWNO, A THIRD PARTY OPERATOR THAT WORKS WITH THEM QUITE EXTENSIVELY, THEY SAID DAIGNEAULT IS ACTUALLY PUSHING FOR THREE CROSSINGS TO BE ELIMINATED TO GET ONE NEW ONE. SO I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT IN WRITING ANYWHERE. THAT WAS ANECDOTAL FROM A THIRD PARTY TO US, BUT WE HAVE HAD THE SPECIFIC CONVERSATIONS WITH DART. THAT'S CONSISTENT. WHAT WE'VE HEARD NATIONWIDE WITH OTHER RAILROADS.

OKAY. SO AS WE LOOK TO REDEVELOP WITH NEW CITY HALL, WE DID THIS EAST MOBILITY OR EAST MCKINNEY MOBILITY STUDY. WE WANTED TO IDENTIFY HOW COULD WE IMPROVE ACCESS TO THAT WHOLE AREA AS IT REDEVELOPS. ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THAT STUDY WAS TO ADD ANOTHER CROSSING OF THE DART TRACK AT LAMAR STREET, WHERE WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED THERE. THIS IS A ZOOMED IN PICTURE OF THE NEW CITY HALL. THE RELATIONSHIP TO THAT, THAT PROPOSED LAMAR STREET CROSSING.

WE HAVE A BUNCH OF VACANT PROPERTY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THROCKMORTON, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SCREEN HERE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY REDEVELOP. AND SO IT DOES MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO CREATE THIS NEW CROSSING ACROSS LAMAR STREET. THE PROJECTED TRAFFIC COUNTS. WE'RE TALKING

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NOW COUNCIL, YOU OBVIOUSLY COULD TELL US DIFFERENTLY. WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THERE WAS A, A, A JUSTIFICATION TO REMOVE ONE OF THE EXISTING CROSSINGS IN THAT AREA THAT SERVE THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THERE WAS ACTUALLY A SECOND CROSSING FOR US TO CLOSE TO MEET DART'S REQUIREMENT. SO WE BROUGHT THAT UP TO DART STAFF. AND DART SAID, WELL, ACTUALLY, WE HAVE ANOTHER OPTION. YOU CAN ELIMINATE ONE CROSSING, WHICH WOULD BE THE WILMOTH. BUT IF YOU PAY US $2 MILLION, THAT WOULD COUNT AS YOUR CLOSING OF ANOTHER CROSSING. SO THAT WAS HOW WE COULD MAKE THIS HAPPEN, MOVING FORWARD WITH THE WILMOTH OVERPASS AND THEN THE CASH PAYMENT OF $2 MILLION TO DART. JUST TO CONFIRM ON THAT MAP THAT SECOND CROSSING FROM THE BOTTOM. THAT'S ELM, RIGHT? YES. WILSON CREEK GOT PUT ON OUR GIS ON BOTH SIDES, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY ELM. WILSON CREEK IS ON THE WEST SIDE, BUT ELM ON THE EAST SIDE.

THEY'RE TRYING TO ORIENT MYSELF. YES, YOU ARE CORRECT. THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT. HOWEVER, ONE MORE COMPLICATION WITH THE LAMAR CROSSING IS THERE IS A SIDING WHICH IS A SECONDARY TRACK NEXT TO THE MAIN LINE THAT ALLOWS FOR, YOU KNOW, THE OPERATOR TO KEEP TRACK OF TRAINS PARKED STATIONARY ON THE SIDING. AND THEN THEY WILL DO SWITCHING MANEUVERS AND, YOU KNOW, EITHER PULL CARS ON THERE AND GO ON OR LEAVE WHATEVER. BUT SO THERE'S A SECONDARY TRACK, THAT TRACK CROSSES. IT GOES FROM BASICALLY VIRGINIA JUST NORTH OF VIRGINIA, ALL THE WAY UP TO BROAD STREET.

IT'S ABOUT 2000FT. AND DART AND, YOU KNOW, SAID, IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A CROSSING IN AT LAMAR, YOU HAVE TO RELOCATE THAT SIDING. WE CAN'T LOSE THAT ABILITY TO STORE CARS THERE. SO WE INVESTIGATED WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN AND WHERE A POTENTIAL LOCATION IS, BECAUSE JUST NORTH OF BROAD STREET, IT'S NOT LIKE WE COULD JUST EXTEND IT THERE ACROSS THAT AREA ON THAT AERIAL CROSSING, THERE'S A HORIZONTAL CURVE. HORIZONTAL CURVES AREN'T REALLY GREAT FOR RAILROADS, SO THEY DO NOT LIKE TO DO SWITCHING IN ANY TYPE OF COMPLICATED MANEUVERS THERE. AND SO THEY HAVE ASKED THAT WE WOULD RELOCATE THAT SIDING TO NORTH OF 380. SO YOU WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE THERE'S A GREAT SECTION THERE SOUTH OF WILMOTH DOWN TO 380. THEY WOULD ALSO LIKE IT EXTENDED. SO NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE TO MOVE IT NOW, THEY WANT TO EXTEND IT BY ABOUT 1600 FEET FOR THEIR OPERATION. AND SO WE'RE ESTIMATING BASED ON THAT ROUGH COST THAT WE PAID AT LAMAR OR AT VIRGINIA AND LOUISIANA, 30 TO 40 MILLION JUST FOR THAT SIDING RELOCATION. SOME GRADING WOULD MAY HAVE TO BE DONE. WE HAVE NOT DONE ANY TOPOGRAPHIC SURVEY OUT THERE SO THAT COST COULD POTENTIALLY GO UP. IT'S IN THAT RANGE THOUGH. OOPS. SO AS YOU AS YOU THINK ABOUT THAT PROJECT, I WILL I'LL LEAVE THE WILMOTH PIECE OFF OF THAT TOTAL COST JUST BECAUSE THAT HAS ITS OWN MERITS. SEPARATELY, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DONE JUST FOR THIS. IT COULD BE DONE FOR ITS OWN OWN BENEFIT. ROUGH COST, LET'S SAY 30 MILLION TO $40 MILLION FOR THE SIDING, $2 MILLION FOR THIS IS YOUR PAY TO DART FOR A SECOND CROSSING. AND THEN THE ACTUAL LAMAR CONSTRUCTION OF LAMAR SAY THAT'S 8 TO $10 MILLION TO GO FROM WHERE THE APARTMENTS HAVE ALREADY BUILT IT WEST OF THE

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A FEW MORE PHOTOS. IT IS A WOOD TRESTLE. YOU KNOW, CAME IN AND MADE SOME REPAIRS TWO YEARS AGO.

SO IT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT BETTER. IT STILL DOESN'T FEEL GREAT. I CAN UNDERSTAND RESIDENTS CONCERN WHEN THEY GO UNDERNEATH THERE. WE'RE LIKE, HEY, WE GOT TRAINS GOING OVER THIS. YOU KNOW, IT'S A DANGEROUS ONE LANE CROSSING, LIMITED VISIBILITY, INADEQUATE VERTICAL CLEARANCE. SO AS THOSE APARTMENTS TO THE NORTH HAVE BEEN BUILT, THEY'VE HAD TRUCKS COME DOWN TO BROAD STREET AND TURN TO GO UNDERNEATH. AND THEN. OH, THAT'S A LOW, LOW CROSSING. SO THEY'RE HAVING TO BACK UP ON BROAD STREET, TURN AROUND AND GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. WE HAVE IT SIGNED BUT THEY JUST DIDN'T SEE THE SIGNAGE. AND YOU KNOW SO IT DOESN'T FACILITATE A LOT OF MOVEMENT THROUGH THE AREA. SO THOSE ARE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE THREE DIFFERENT PROJECTS. SO WE'RE HERE TO ASK FOR DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL. SHOULD WE BE MOVING FORWARD WITH ALL THREE OF THESE PROJECTS. NONE OF THESE PROJECTS 1 OR 2. YOU KNOW I'D LIKE FOR SOME INPUT FROM, FROM FROM YOU TO HELP US GUIDE AS WE START TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THINKING ABOUT CAPITAL PLANNING FOR OUR NEXT FIVE YEAR PLAN. SO, GARY, I'M GOING TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF COLOR TO THE BROAD STREET CROSSING. I THINK A LOT OF THE COMPLAINTS COME FROM DART OR WGNO OR WHOEVER ELSE, ALLOWING TRASH AND UNSIGHTLY ACTIONS OCCUR THERE CONSISTENTLY WITHOUT CLEANING IT UP OR WITHOUT PROVIDING ANY SUPPORT TO THE COMMUNITY OVER IT. IT IS CONSTANTLY GOT TRASH IN IT. THERE HAS CONSTANTLY BEEN ENCAMPMENTS ALONG THAT PATHWAY ALONG THE ENTIRE RAILROAD EASEMENT. BUT THIS IS WHERE YOU SEE IT. YEAH. AND SO THERE IS I'M SURE THERE IS PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE WIDER. AND I'M SURE IT IS GOING TO GET MORE TRAFFIC, BOTH FROM CITY HALL VISITORS OR FROM THE APARTMENTS AT SPHINX. BUT A BIG PART OF THE ASK FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT I'VE HEARD IS IT LOOKS LIKE CRAP AND DART DOESN'T CARE. AND SO CITY MANAGER GRIMES AND I MET WITH DART OFFICIALS.

WE MET WITH GARY SCHLEGEL, WHO IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE DART BOARD, AND WE ALSO MET WITH NADINE LEE, WHO'S THE CEO, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF DART. THEY CAME UP AND WE TOOK THEM ON A SITE, VISIT A TOUR, AND THEY WERE VERY SYMPATHETIC TO OUR CONCERNS, VERY OPEN. HOWEVER, THEY'RE HAVING THEIR OWN FINANCIAL ISSUES, YOU KNOW, AND SO THEY WOULD HAVE VERY WHAT NADINE TOLD US WAS THEY'D HAVE DIFFICULTY COMMITTING FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO A NON DART MEMBER CITY WHEN THEY'RE WORKING ON THEIR OWN HOUSE RIGHT NOW. AND SO THEY WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PARTNERSHIP ON A, ON A PARTNER ON A GRANT APPLICATION. BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE ANY INVESTMENT FROM THEM. WITH US BEING A NON DART MEMBER RIGHT NOW. CAN WE CITE THEM FOR CODE COMPLIANCE ON TRASH AND OTHER THINGS? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. LOOK AT OUR CITY ATTORNEY. YOU PROBABLY COULD ANY FINANCIAL PARTICIPATION THAT ANY OTHER RESIDENT OF MCKINNEY DOESN'T ALREADY PROVIDE. I MEAN IT IS IT'S JUST THERE'S TRASH EVERY TIME YOU DRIVE BY IT. SO YEAH. YEAH. GRAFFITI. WE'RE OUT THERE RESPONDING TO GRAFFITI. I DON'T MIND THE GRAFFITI. IT'S THE IT'S THE TRASH. THAT AND THE TRASH JUST BLOWS AROUND THROUGH THERE BECAUSE IT CREATES A WIND TUNNEL THROUGH THERE, AND IT MAKES, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS, THAT'S

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SO YOU NEED DIRECTION FROM US ON, ON THESE THESE ITEMS. YEAH. I MEAN SHOULD SHOULD ALL OF THESE PROJECTS, SHOULD WE BE CONTINUING TO ADVANCE THEM. IS THERE A PRIORITY THAT THEY SHOULD BE ADVANCED IN. YOU KNOW, OR IS THERE A PROJECT THAT WE THINK THAT WE I WAS TODAY YEARS OLD WHEN I LEARNED ABOUT BROAD STREET. AND I DON'T LIKE IT, BUT SO I'M GOING TO HOLD OFF ON THAT ONE. THE REALITY WITH WILMOTH IS I SEE IT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A LUXURY TO ME, ESPECIALLY WITH 8 OR 10 TRAINS A WEEK. LAMAR. MAN, THAT WE'RE BUILDING OURSELVES INTO NEEDING THAT TO HAPPEN WITH WHERE WE PUT CITY HALL. AND IT JUST SEEMS THAT WHEN YOU GO, WHEN YOU GO BETWEEN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WHEN YOU GO BETWEEN VIRGINIA AND 380, THERE'S NOWHERE TO CROSS THESE TRACKS AND THERE'S NO BETTER OPPORTUNITY THAN LAMAR. AND LAMAR HAPPENS TO BE ON THE NORTH END OF OUR MUNICIPAL CAMPUS. AND AS YOU TRAVEL EAST ON LAMAR FROM THE TRACKS, YOU'RE HITTING THAT BIG 20 SOMETHING ACRE SITE THAT HAS A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO BE REDEVELOPED HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. SO FROM A LIVABILITY STANDPOINT AND FROM A STANDPOINT OF THE INGRESS AND EGRESS TO AND AROUND OUR CROWN JEWEL OF OUR DOWNTOWN, TO ME THAT'S THE TOP PRIORITY OF THESE THREE. BUT LIKE I SAID, I'M OUT OF MY PAY GRADE ON BRASWELL. I'M SORRY, IT'S MINE AS WELL. OKAY, SO I AGREE WITH I AGREE WITH THAT. I'M NOT A BIG BROAD STREET FAN RIGHT NOW, THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN OVER TIME. WILMOTH WOULD BE A CLOSE SECOND IN MY OPINION, JUST BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON ON THE EAST SIDE, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEED FOR. TRANSPORTATION

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WE'RE ELONGATING IT FOR YOU. ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR IS AN AT GRADE CROSSING IN OUR CIVIC CENTER THAT WE'RE IMPROVING BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, IF DART WANTS TO OR IF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY WANTS TO, THEN THIS BENEFITS EVERYBODY. AND I MEAN, LIKE IT'S A RATIONAL ARGUMENT, BUT NOT, WELL, CERTAINLY ASK THE QUESTION. YEAH, I THINK IT'S A RANSOM, NOT A FEE. I WAS I WAS SHORT OF SAYING OTHER WORDS, BUT OKAY, OKAY. SO AT THIS POINT BROAD STREET WON'T MAKE IT INTO OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN. JUST BROAD STREET, MAKE IT LOOK NICER, GET THE TRASH OFF OF IT. THAT I MEAN, THAT WAS MY COMMENT TO PAUL WHEN I SENT IT WAS NOT THAT WE NEEDED A BIGGER, NECESSARILY A BIGGER ROADWAY THROUGH THERE. WE JUST NEED TO MAKE IT LOOK BETTER. I MEAN, IT YOU IT'S A IT'S A COOL CROSSING. I'VE DRIVEN MY I DROVE MY KIDS UNDER THERE FOR PRESCHOOL FOR YEARS, AND IT'S THEIR FAVORITE PART OF THE CITY. I'M SURPRISED MY KIDS DIDN'T TAKE SENIOR PICTURES BY IT. LIKE THEY LOVE THAT PART OF THE CITY THERE. IT'S A QUAINTNESS, AND IT TAKES YOU BACK TO A TIME PERIOD WHERE IT WAS A SMALL TOWN, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE CRAP AND IT LOOKS LIKE CRAP BECAUSE DART SHRUGS THEIR SHOULDERS AND NOBODY CARES. AND 70% OF THOSE COUNCIL DIDN'T KNOW IT EXISTED. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT RESIDENTS WANT, IS PUT SOME THINGS UP THERE THAT MAKE IT MAKE IT COOL. CLEAN IT UP. GARY, IS THERE A WAY TO TAKE CONTROL OF THAT AREA SO THAT THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEANING IT INSTEAD OF LEAVING IT TO DART? DART WOULD CERTAINLY, BUT I'M ASSUMING DART WOULD NOT HAVE ANY PROBLEM IF WE SAID WE WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT, WOULD THEY? OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THE TRACKS, THE RETAINING WALLS, JUST THE TRACKS, JUST DOING TRASH MAINTENANCE, GRAFFITI. IF WE WERE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT OURSELVES, I DON'T THINK WE'D HAVE ANY COMPLAINTS FROM DART, BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY IMPACT THE BUDGET. IT CAN'T BE. CAN WE GET CAN WE TAKE THAT ON IN EXCHANGE FOR A $60 MILLION, ONE TIME FEE? THERE YOU GO. NEGOTIATE THAT. GOOD IDEA. OKAY, OKAY. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, CONSENSUS IS ONE. LET'S LET'S TALK TO DART ABOUT AN AGREEMENT WHERE WE MAINTAIN JUST ON A ESTHETIC LEVEL THAT CROSSING THE BROAD STREET. BUT I THINK EVERYONE SEES THE VALUE IN, IN, IN LONG TERM PLANNING AND ACCOMMODATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMING FOR LAMAR, BUT NOT NOT WITH THE EXPENSE THAT IT WOULD TAKE WITH WILMOTH AND HOLISTICALLY. SO I KNOW YOU SAID THERE'S CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU HAVEN'T HAD WITH THEM YET. CAN CAN YOU HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT JUST JUST OUT OF THE BOX? NEGOTIATION WITH THEM ON, ON ON HOW DO WE HOW DO WE ACHIEVE LAMAR WITHOUT SPENDING $35 MILLION ON WYNNEWOOD THAT WE DON'T FIND NECESSARY? OKAY. DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THE GRANT? I'M ASSUMING MID SPRING? EARLY

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