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READY. CAITLIN. OKAY, NOW YOU CAN DO IT. GOOD EVENING. IT IS 5:36 P.M. WELCOME TO THE CITY OF
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MCKINNEY HISTORIC PRESERVATION ADVISORY BOARD MEETING OF FEBRUARY 6TH, 2025. THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT YOU SEE SEATED BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING HAVE BEEN APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU ARE HERE THIS EVENING AND WISH TO SPEAK DURING A PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION, PLEASE COMPLETE A SPEAKER'S CARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND LIMIT YOUR REMARKS TO THREE MINUTES. WE ASK THAT YOU BE CONCISE IN YOUR COMMENTS AND SPEAK ONLY ONCE, IF NECESSARY, TO CLARIFY OR ANSWER QUESTIONS POSED BY THE AUDIENCE. CITY STAFF WILL BE CALLED UPON TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED BY THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE. THE BOARD REQUESTS THAT WE ALL TREAT EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT. FOCUS ON THE ISSUES, BE CONCISE IN YOUR COMMENTS AND AVOID OVERTALKING THE ISSUE. WE ALL WANT TO ACT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITIZENS OF MCKINNEY, WHILE MAINTAINING THE HERITAGE AND HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE NON PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA ITEMS? IT WOULD APPEAR NOT. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT[CONSENT ITEMS]
AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER 2520 2428. THE MINUTES OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ADVISORY BOARD REGULAR MEETING OF DECEMBER 5TH, 2024. I TRUST YOU ALL HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THOSE. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? I MOVE TO APPROVE. MOTION IS MADE BY PETKOVSEK. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. MARCIA. SECONDS. YEAH. WELL. MARCIA. YES? MARCIA ROBINSON SECONDS THE MOTION. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE. WE'LL DO IT BY HANDS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. I THINK[Discuss Certified Local Government Program]
THAT IS IT. IT HAS BEEN APPROVED. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE DISCUSSED ITEMS. THE FIRST ITEM FOR DISCUSSION IS ITEM NUMBER 25. DASH 2427, DISCUSS CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM. AND CASSIE WILL GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON WHAT THIS MEANS TO US AS A BOARD AND WHAT IT MEANS TO US AS A CITY. I KNOW THAT MANY OF YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT MUCH ABOUT THE CLG PROGRAM OR WHAT IT MEANS, AND LIKE YOU, I'D LIKE TO LEARN MORE. AND CASSIE IS GOING TO BRING US UP TO SPEED ON ON WHERE WE ARE IN THIS PROCESS, BECAUSE I THINK IT MEANS REALLY GOOD THINGS FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND WHAT WHAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO. THANK YOU. THAT WAS A GREAT INTRODUCTION. SO I'M JUST GOING TO BRIEFLY GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM. AS WELL AS GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH IT. SO THIS IS THE DEFINITION ON THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE'S WEBSITE, AS WELL AS THE STATE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION'S WEBSITE. THE CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM IS A STATE, A LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PARTNERSHIP TO EMPOWER LOCAL COMMUNITIES TO BETTER PROTECT HISTORIC RESOURCES. THAT'S KIND OF THE MEAT OF IT. AND THEN THE HOW IS BY IDENTIFYING LOCAL PRIORITIES, MEETING RECOGNIZED HISTORIC PRESERVATION STANDARDS, PROVIDING ACCESS TO FINANCIAL AND TECHNICAL SERVICES TO FURTHER THE IDENTIFICATION, EVALUATION, DESIGNATION AND PROTECTION OF BUILDINGS, SITES, DISTRICTS, STRUCTURES AND OBJECTS. SO IN OUR AREA, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT DO WE WANT TO BECOME A CLG, WE LOOKED AT COMPARISON CITIES.SOMETHING INTERESTING ABOUT CLG. CLG CAN BE CITIES OR COUNTIES. SO THIS MAP JUST KIND OF ZOOMED IN, IS SHOWING ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES AROUND US WHO ARE A CLG. AND EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A LOT OF DESIGNATED PROPERTIES OR ONE OF THE FEW THAT AREN'T A CLG. SO WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF BECOMING ONE? SO THERE IS THIS ANNUAL GRANT PROGRAM. THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST. PULLS TO BECOME A CLG FOR A LOT OF COMMUNITIES, BECAUSE THAT DOES OPEN YOU UP FOR GRANT OPPORTUNITIES BOTH FROM, SAY, LIKE A SURVEY COULD GET A GRANT. IF YOU WANTED TO DO A PRESERVATION PLAN THAT COULD GET A GRANT, AS WELL AS NONPROFITS IN YOUR CITY CAN APPLY FOR GRANTS. THEN THERE'S ALSO THE ACCESS TO TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE FROM THE STATE STAFF. SO THAT ESSENTIALLY MEANS THE WAY THAT THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION IS LAID OUT. THERE ARE PEOPLE JUST DEDICATED TO CLG COMMUNITIES, SO WE CAN CONTACT THEM AND ASK THEM QUESTIONS AND HAVE THEIR HELP ON PARTICULAR
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PROJECTS, THINGS THAT WE'RE HAVING ISSUES WITH. IT JUST GIVES YOU A WIDER NETWORK TO WORK WITH. THEN THERE'S ALSO THE ACCESS TO THE PRESERVATION WORKSHOPS AND TRAININGS. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN ON THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION'S WEBSITE, BUT THEY HAVE A TON OF RESOURCES AS WELL AS ONCE YOU BECOME A CLG, YOU CAN ACTUALLY START HOSTING EVENTS IN YOUR CITY. AND YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTROL OVER WHAT KIND OF PROGRAMS YOU WANT TO HOST. SO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU'RE REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT AND YOU WANT TO BRING TO MCKINNEY FROM THE STATE, THEY COME IN AND THEY CAN HOST A PROGRAM FOR US. THE OTHER PORTION OF THIS IS THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY A GOLD STANDARD IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION. A LOT OF COMMUNITIES WANT TO BECOME A CLG, BECAUSE THAT LETS EVERYONE ELSE KNOW THAT YOU'RE RISING TO THE A NATIONAL STANDARD THAT EVERYONE CAN APPRECIATE AND VALUE. SOMETHING ELSE TO NOTE IS THAT BECOMING A CLG DOESN'T CHANGE ANY SORT OF REGULATORY PROTECTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR COMMUNITY. SO WHETHER WE WERE APPROVED OR DENIED TO BE A CLG, OUR HISTORIC OVERLAY WOULD STILL HAVE THE SAME PROTECTIONS. YOU JUST DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. SO THE PROCESS TO BECOME A CLG, ESSENTIALLY, FIRST, IT STARTED WITH CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION TO PURSUE THIS. SO WE HAD TO GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL. IT WAS ACTUALLY A JOINT MEETING, I BELIEVE, AND TALK ABOUT WHY WE WANT TO BE A CLG AND GET THEIR BLESSING TO GO FORWARD WITH IT. THEN IN BETWEEN THAT AND THE NEXT STEP WAS STAFF GETTING TOGETHER ALL THE PIECES OF AN APPLICATION. I THINK OUR APPLICATION WAS QUITE LENGTHY. YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE ALL THE PARTS OF THE CODE THAT RELATES TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION. YOU INCLUDE ALL YOUR DESIGNATED RESOURCES. YOU'RE ALSO INCLUDING STUFF LIKE WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES? ALL THAT SORT OF THING. I WANT TO SAY PROBABLY 50 TO 70 PAGES IS KIND OF THE APPLICATION LENGTH. SO ONCE THAT'S COMPLETED, THEN WE SEND THAT UP AND GET IT SIGNED. IT HAS TO BE SIGNED BY THE MAYOR, AND THEN WE SUBMIT IT TO THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION. ONCE THEY GET IT, THEN THEY HAVE A REVIEW TIME TO REVIEW THAT. THEN ONCE THEY REVIEW IT, THEIR STAFF PERSON THEN SENDS THAT UP TO THEIR EXECUTIVE DEPUTY DIRECTOR. THEY SIGN IT AND THEN THEY SEND IT BACK TO US TO GET IT SIGNED BY THE MAYOR AGAIN. AND THEN THAT'S APPLICATION. THE APPLICATION THEN IS FORWARDED TO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE. ONCE IT'S AT THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, THAT'S WHEN THEY DO THE FEDERAL REVIEW OF IT. AND ESSENTIALLY THEY HAVE A COVER SHEET ON OUR APPLICATION THAT SAYS TEXAS HAS ENDORSED OUR APPLICATION. THEY WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, MCKINNEY WOULD LIKE TO BE A CLG AFTER THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE OR PARK SERVICE REVIEWS IT. THAT'S WHEN WE CAN BECOME A CLG. SO THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE A WHILE. I KNOW A LOT OF YOU HAVE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS, SO AS OF TODAY, WE ARE AT OUR APPLICATION HAS BEEN FORWARDED TO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE. IT TOOK A WHILE TO GET THERE. I WILL SAY IN TALKING WITH THE STATE, THEY DO HAVE A BACKLOG. THEY DON'T GIVE US A SCHEDULE. WE JUST KNOW THAT THEY HAVE. TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION HAS SUBMITTED STUFF FROM JANUARY AND HASN'T HEARD BACK YET, SO THERE'S AT LEAST ABOUT A MONTH BACKLOG. SO WE'RE HOPING TO HEAR BACK SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. BUT AGAIN, THEY ALSO DON'T GIVE US UPDATES ON THAT. YOU SEND IT AND THEN THEY LET YOU KNOW WHEN THEY'RE READY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. ACTUALLY A LOT FARTHER ALONG THAN I THOUGHT YOU WERE. YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S SPEAKS SPEAKS WELL TO THE DILIGENCE OF STAFF IN GETTING THIS TAKEN CARE OF. SO THAT'S EXCITING. REALLY EXCITING. I WAS GOING TO ASK, SO AS I REMEMBER READING, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CERTAIN ASPECTS THAT COULD OCCUR. YOU COULD THEY COULD REQUEST US TO HAVE A COMMISSION, A HISTORIC COMMISSION, RATHER THAN A PRESERVATION ADVISORY BOARD. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S IN THE WORKS OR IF ANY THOUGHT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THAT. SO THEY CAN THEY'VE ENDORSED OUR APPLICATION AS IS. SO A LOT OF THAT DIFFERENCE IN THE LANGUAGE CAN BE SYNTAX. SOMETIMES WHAT THEY ACTUALLY LOOK AT IS WHAT YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO. SO THEY WHEN THEY WERE EVALUATING ON THE STATE LEVEL, THEY ASKED ME QUESTIONS ABOUT CAN I AS A STAFF PERSON, FORWARD CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS TO Y'ALL. CAN Y'ALL VOTE ON THOSE AND HAVE A DECISION ON THOSE? THE DEMOLITIONS THAT Y'ALL REVIEW. SO THEY WERE ASKING THOSE SORTS OF QUESTIONS[00:10:02]
JUST TO SEE WHAT OUR STRUCTURE AND FLOW OF INFORMATION AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY IS AT THIS POINT IN TIME. EXACTLY. SO THEY WANTED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HOW YOU FUNCTION, EVEN IF THE NAME ISN'T COMMISSION VERSUS BOARD. RIGHT. THE COMMISSION SOUNDS SO MUCH STRONGER. IT DOES, DOESN'T IT? I KNOW IN THE PAST WE HAD STARTED THIS PROCESS. DO YOU KNOW HOW FAR? WHEN WAS THAT AND HOW FAR DID WE GET? DO YOU KNOW? IT LOOKED LIKE IN OUR FILES THAT WE'VE DONE IT A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT IT'S ALWAYS ENDED AT THE STATE REVIEW. AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THAT WE WERE RECEIVING. WE RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM THE STATE. AND THEN NEEDED TO GO BACK AND MAKE SOME CHANGES, MOSTLY TO OUR ORDINANCE. OKAY. SO THE STATE CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT? SO IT GOT TO THE IT DID NOT GET TO WHERE WE ARE NOW. IT GOT TO THE ONE BEFORE IT. OKAY. SO IT WOULD WE SENT OUT AN APPLICATION GOT IT TO THE STATE. AND THE STATE SAID HEY WE SEE DEFICIENCIES IN YOUR APPLICATION. AT THAT TIME, I WANT TO SAY THAT WAS IN THE 20 TENS. YEAH. AT THAT TIME, THEY RECEIVED BACK A DOCUMENT AND HAD TO START WORKING ON DIFFERENT PORTIONS, FIGURING OUT WHERE THEY WANTED TO GO WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM. YES. SO WHAT IS YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS. WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF WHEN IT GETS TO THAT POINT? LIKE OUR STATE OBVIOUSLY APPROVED IT.IT GOES TO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE. WHAT PERCENTAGE OF APPLICATIONS GET APPROVED? I DO NOT KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT. I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S A DATA POINT THAT THEY GIVE OUT, BUT I CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT FOR YOU. IT'S CURIOUS. I WOULD SUSPECT THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE WOULD WANT TO ENCOURAGE CITIES TO DO THIS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PRESERVATION, BECAUSE THAT FALLS, EXCUSE ME, WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR, I GUESS, BUT ALSO WITH THEM AS WELL. WOULD THEY DO YOU KNOW, IF, LET'S SAY THEY FIND SOME THINGS THAT THEY WISH THAT WERE DEFICIENCIES, TO USE YOUR WORD? WOULD THEY GIVE THAT FEEDBACK AND ALLOW US TO CORRECT THOSE AND THEN RESUBMIT THEM, OR IS IT IS IT ABOUT A 99% CHANCE, WHATEVER THE TEXAS HISTORIC COMMISSION FINDS IS GOING TO BE ADEQUATE? ANOTHER QUESTION YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO. THAT IS A QUESTION I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO. WHAT I DO KNOW IS IF SOMEONE AT ANY PHASE FINDS DEFICIENCIES IN THE APPLICATION, THEY WOULD GIVE YOU THAT FEEDBACK. AND THEN THERE'S NO THERE'S NO PENALTY. YOU COULD APPLY AGAIN. YEAH. YOU WOULD JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE HITTING ALL OF THOSE WHATEVER BULLET POINTS THEY GIVE YOU. YES. JUST TO CLARIFY. SO YOU SAID WE MUST MEET STATE APPROVAL, BUT IT'S A NATIONAL AFFILIATION. SO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE IS THE ONE WHO LOOKS OVER ALL OF THOSE CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. WHAT DO YOU WHAT DO YOU SEE CHANGING? I KNOW UNDER SOME CIRCUMSTANCES THEY I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DESIRE OR IT'S COMMON TO HAVE A SEPARATE SET OF ORDINANCE. MORE SPECIFIC. I KNOW WE HAVE DIFFERENT ORDINANCES FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT THAN WE DO FOR THE REST OF THE CITY, BUT MORE SPECIFIC. OR I WANT TO MAKE US SOUND LIKE AN HOA, BUT, YOU KNOW, MORE SPECIFIC ORDINANCES OR REQUIREMENTS OR RESTRICTIONS. DO YOU FORESEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENING IF THIS GOES THROUGH, OR WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT CITY STAFF WOULD REVIEW, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND TAKE TO CITY COUNCIL? THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT CITY STAFF WOULD REVIEW AND THEN TAKE TO, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD SUPPORT AND THEN TAKE IT TO CITY COUNCIL AND SEE IF THEY SUPPORT IT. BECAUSE I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS MORE LIKE DESIGN GUIDELINES. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. I MEAN, OUR ORDINANCES NOW ARE, WHAT, 50 LIKE 50? IF YOU HAVE A FENCE IN FRONT, IT HAS TO BE 50% SEE THROUGH AND. INFORMATION.
BUT YOU STILL HAVE WHAT, SIX FOOT EIGHT INCHES ON THE BACK FENCES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO I MEAN, THOSE ARE NOT TOO DISSIMILAR FOR THE REST OF THE CITY. YEAH. IF WE WANTED TO DO ANY MORE SORT OF LIKE DESIGN STANDARDS OR DESIGN GUIDELINES, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DO AND BRING BACK TO THE BOARDS AND CITY COUNCIL, PRESUMABLY, THEN THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION COULD BE A SOURCE OF AID ON THAT AS WELL. YEAH. SO WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE GRANT PROGRAM, PEOPLE SOMETIMES FUND THEIR DESIGN GUIDELINES THROUGH A THROUGH THE GRANT PROGRAM. OKAY. OH, WOW. THE GRANT PROGRAM WOULD BE FROM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I'M SORRY.
THE GRANT PROGRAM OF WHICH YOU'RE SPEAKING WOULD BE FUNDED BY WHAT ENTITY? SO THE NATIONAL
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PARK SERVICE GIVES EACH STATE A CERTAIN ALLOCATION OF MONEY, AND THEN IT GOES THROUGH THE STATE.SO OUR APPLICATION, IF WE WANTED TO APPLY FOR A GRANT, WOULD GO TO THE STATE. I KNOW WHAT TOM IS SAYING. ONE WONDERS WHAT STRINGS ARE ATTACHED TO SUCH FUNDING. I WONDER. YOU WONDER OPPORTUNITIES FOR INTERFACE WITH YOU AND OTHER STAFF MEMBERS? AND THEN WHAT ARE THE REAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE PROGRAM TOWARD US AS REGARDS SUCH MANDATES? AS WE DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T KNOW. YEAH. TO BE A CLG, YOU HAVE TO REPORT BACK UP TO THE STATE ANNUALLY. SO WE WOULD REPORT LIKE THE CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS. WE APPROVE OR DENY. IS THAT SORT OF THING. BUT AS FAR AS FOR THE GRANTS ITSELF, THAT'S A GRANT FUND. THAT'S A PROGRAM IN AND OF ITSELF FROM THE STATE. SO THEY JUST SCORE WHATEVER YOUR GRANT APPLICATION IS AGAINST EVERYONE ELSE WHO SUBMITTED THAT YEAR.
I'M SURE THEY DO DIFFERENT GRANT CYCLES, AND EACH GRANT CYCLE HAS DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS. EXACTLY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON ON WHAT YOU HAVE DONE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS. I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN. IT'S BEEN RIGHT AROUND TWO YEARS BECAUSE I HAD BARELY STARTED. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, AND WE'VE HAD THE SUPPORT OF OUR COUNCIL AND OUR MAYOR, WHICH IS HUGE. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS, TOO. I'M, I'M VERY PLEASED WITH HOW YOU GUYS HAVE GOTTEN THIS GOING AND THE SPEED BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF ADMINISTRATIVE WORK. AND I IMAGINE YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE COMING IN IN TERMS OF HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE WHOLE PROCESS AND PUTTING TOGETHER. NO, THE ONLY OTHER COMMUNITY THAT I'VE WORKED FOR, THEY WERE ALREADY A CLG, SO I WORKED ON THE ANNUAL REPORTING SIDE OF IT, BUT NEVER THE MAKING THE APPLICATION AND SUBMITTING.
YOU'LL HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE. EXACTLY. I CAN SAY I'VE SEEN IT FROM START TO FINISH NOW AND AS SOON AS THEY GET ANOTHER PLANNER, IS THAT TAKING PLACE YET? WE'LL TALK ABOUT HER IN A FEW MINUTES. OUTSTANDING. SO YOU'RE NOW JUST COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE DOWNTOWN PLANNER. CORRECT. BUT WE HAVE A HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLANNER, AND WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNER. OKAY. AWESOME. YEAH. DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE. I'LL INTRODUCE HER AT THE END. OKAY. VERY GOOD, VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR CASSIE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CASSIE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER. THAT WAS REALLY, REALLY INSTRUCTIVE. YES. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. LET'S SEE. DO WE HAVE ANY GENERAL CITIZENS COMMENTS REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA? I THINK YOU SKIPPED AN AGENDA ITEM. OH, I'M SO SORRY. I CAN'T EVEN BLAME HAVING NOT HAVING MY GLASSES ON. ALL RIGHT, LET'S SEE. SO WE'RE
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NEXT. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER 2524. 2426 DISCUSS THE HISTORIC HOME RECOGNITION CALENDAR FOR 2026. CASSIE BAUMER ONCE AGAIN ARE BAUMGARTNER WITH MUCH AGAIN. ONCE AGAIN, MAKE A PRESENTATION. AND IF I CAN SPIT IT OUT, I'M FLUSTERED. YOU'RE DOING IS QUITE ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE HISTORIC HOME RECOGNITION CALENDAR, JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY. SO FOR ANYONE WHO ISN'T FAMILIAR WITH THIS, THE PROGRAM WAS CREATED. THE INITIAL DISCUSSIONS DATE BACK TO JULY OF 2007. IT'S WENT THROUGH SEVERAL ITERATIONS, BUT THE CONSENSUS ON DOING A HISTORIC HOME RECOGNITION PROGRAM WAS KIND OF FINALIZED IN JANUARY OF 2008. AND THE PROGRAM GOALS ARE THAT THE CALENDAR SHOULD GIVE RECOGNITION TO WELL-MAINTAINED HOMES, SHARE A LESSER KNOWN HISTORY OF MCKINNEY, AND TO SERVE AS A VISUAL REMINDER OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION IN MCKINNEY. SO THIS I JUST WANTED TO BRIEFLY SHOUT OUT, WE DID DO THE 2025 CALENDAR. THAT IS THE BACK COVER THAT SHOWS ALL THE HOMES. WE'RE VERY PROUD OF IT AS STAFF. IT TURNED OUT REALLY NICE AND. AND THEN THIS IS JUST A KIND OF WE HEARD YOU. SO FOR THE 2026 CALENDAR, WE WANT TO DO A MODIFIED NOTIFICATION LETTER THAT INCLUDES THE DEPARTMENT EMAIL AND PHONE NUMBER. I KNOW WITH STAFF TURNOVER LAST YEAR THERE WAS A YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A GAP IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE PEOPLE WHO WERE THE WINNERS VERSUS WHEN THEY HEARD FROM US ABOUT THE PHOTOGRAPHY AND[00:20:04]
WHATNOT. WE'RE ALSO ASKING FOR HOMEOWNERS TO GIVE US CONTACT INFORMATION BACK. THAT'S KIND OF IN OUR LETTER NOW, JUST SO WE CAN EMAIL THEM IF ANYTHING DOES COME UP. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT INTERNALLY FOR A CONSOLIDATED TIMELINE SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THE HOMEOWNERS WITH KIND OF PHOTOGRAPHY WINDOW. I DON'T KNOW THAT QUITE YET BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T NONE OF IT'S FINALIZED YET. BUT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS PROVIDE MAYBE A MONTH LONG WINDOW FOR THE PHOTOGRAPHER TO GO OUT AND TAKE PHOTOS. AND THEN AS WELL, THE CONTINUED USE OF THE PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHER AND DESIGNER, BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE WORKING PRETTY WELL. AND THEN LOOKING AHEAD. SO WE HAVE SUBMISSIONS OPEN. I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE SUBMITTED SOME, BUT WE DEFINITELY NEED MORE. WE DON'T WE DON'T EVEN HAVE 12 YET. SO GET OUT THERE AND START SUBMITTING. THAT LINK WILL TAKE YOU DIRECTLY TO IT. SO IF YOU GO BACK IN YOUR EMAIL, CLICK ON THE AGENDA. YOU CAN ACTUALLY JUST CLICK STRAIGHT ON THAT. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO DO A SOCIAL MEDIA POST AND THEN REACHING OUT TO BOTH THE MCKINNEY LEGACY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AS WELL AS THE MCKINNEY HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, JUST TO TRY AND GET EVERYBODY INVOLVED AND NOMINATING HOMES.WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SUBMISSIONS OPEN THROUGH MARCH 21ST. THE REASON FOR THAT DEADLINE IS SO THEN WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO THE APRIL 3RD MEETING, AND Y'ALL CAN VOTE ON THE HOMES THAT WILL GO INTO THE CALENDAR. AND DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? AND CASSIE, THEY'RE ALWAYS HOMES, RIGHT. THEY'RE NEVER LIKE CHURCHES AND THINGS. EXACTLY. THEY ARE ALWAYS HOMES. OKAY. GOT IT. YOU KNOW, WE AT ONE POINT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION LAST YEAR, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT DO WE DO WE THINK OF ANOTHER WAY BESIDES DOING A CALENDAR. YOU KNOW, WE I THINK WE WERE LOOKING AT COST OF THE CALENDAR. AND DO PEOPLE STILL USE THE CALENDAR LIKE THEY USED TO? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT WE I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE WE DID HAVE DO YOU REMEMBER THAT IT WASN'T LAST YEAR, BUT THE YEAR BEFORE WE, WE HAD ONE BOARD MEMBER THAT SAID HE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THAT WE SHOULD SPEND THE MONEY. I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH THE CALENDAR COST. IF IT IS FUNDED BY ADVERTISING. I MEAN, CAN YOU DO YOU KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD OR. YEAH. SO NOW IT'S IN THE BUDGET. SO IT'S NOT FUNDED BY THE ADVERTISEMENTS THEMSELVES. WHEN WE DO SELL ADVERTISEMENTS THAT GOES INTO IT SO THAT WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS. BUT IT'S NOT SOLELY JUST ADVERTISEMENTS ANYMORE. AND THAT WAS THE YEAR BEFORE, NOT LAST YEAR, BUT THE YEAR BEFORE WHEN WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT DO WE WANT TO GO DIGITAL? THE CONSENSUS FROM THE HP-IB THEN WAS THAT, NO, WE WANTED THE PHYSICAL CALENDARS. BUT IF YOU ALL WANT TO SWITCH TO SOMETHING ELSE, I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO HEAR IT. THE TEMPTATION IS TO GO DIGITAL WITH THIS STUFF, AND I. I DON'T LIKE THAT IDEA. I MEAN, IT IS KIND OF OLD SCHOOL TO HAVE A HARD CALENDAR, REALLY A DECORATIVE CALENDAR. AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE BETTY AND THEN INCOMING CHAIR TOM PENCE RECEIVED A NOTE FROM DOCTOR KAREN PONTIAC ZUPANIC, WHERE SHE HAD SOME THINGS THAT SHE WAS NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT HAD BEEN, I DON'T KNOW, DID BETTY TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT AT ALL? NO. I WILL BASICALLY THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT THEY HAVE IN THE CALENDAR THAT SHOWS UP THERE THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THEM. AND BECAUSE IT WASN'T, THERE WASN'T SO MUCH OF THAT IN THERE NOW. IT WAS MUCH LESS VALUE TO THEM. AND SHE WAS FAIRLY POINTED IN HER LETTER. BUT I MY SENSE IS LESS LESS CRITICISM, MORE. CAN WE, CAN WE GO BACK TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD IN THERE? AND SO IT TO ME, IT REQUIRES A LOT MORE COORDINATION BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE TO GET CALENDARS FOR 2026 FROM PEOPLE WHO WANT STUFF IN THE CALENDAR. THEY BASICALLY SHE BASICALLY SAID, YOU KNOW, 23 AND 24. WERE MUCH DIFFERENT THAN 22. AND AGAIN, IT IT'S A TIME. IT'S YOUR TIME AND EFFORT TO PUT THAT STUFF TOGETHER. SO ANYWAY, I'LL, I CAN SHARE THIS WITH YOU TO GIVE YOU JUST A SENSE OF WHAT SHE HAD TO SAY. AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE POINTED TO. SO IF WE'RE TO CONSIDER THAT, CAN WE CAN WE KNOW WHAT HER CONCERNS ARE? YEAH. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. I'LL READ HER LETTER. SO IS IT SOMETHING THAT SHE WANTED? SHE WOULD FELT COMFORTABLE SHARING WITH US. SHE SHE CHOSE TO WRITE A LETTER WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH I THINK IS FINE, BUT ANYWAY, I'LL READ
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IT. SHE GOES ON DECEMBER 4TH 20, 2024 I HAD THE PLEASURE OF CHATTING WITH BETTY PETKOVSEK TO UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE PRESERVATION CALENDAR FOR 23 AND 24. PRIOR TO THESE LAST TWO YEARS, THE CALENDAR HAD A FULL YEAR'S WORTH OF DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY EVENTS LISTED, AND SHE PROVIDES AN EXAMPLE AND ALSO HAD KEY DATES KEY EVENT DATES FOR THE MUSEUMS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, HAVING BOTH THE CITIES DATES AND THE DOWNTOWN MUSEUM DATES WERE IMPORTANT PLANNING TOOLS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. IN FACT, IN THE PAST YEAR, OUR CUSTOMERS LINED UP TO GET THE CALENDAR SO THAT THEY COULD PLAN THEIR ANNUAL SCHEDULE AROUND THE MCKINNEY EVENTS. UNFORTUNATELY, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT EVENTS SUCH AS LIKE CHRISTMAS ON THE SQUARE AND THINGS. LET'S SEE. CREW OF BARKUS TOURS MCKINNEY. MCKINNEY BRIDAL SHOW. AND SO. ANYWAY. UNFORTUNATELY, WITH THE EVENTS BEING DELETED FROM THE CALENDAR THESE PAST FEW YEARS, WE HAVE NO INTEREST FROM OUR CUSTOMERS TO GET A CALENDAR. THEY CAN GET A REGULAR CALENDAR ANYWHERE. THE VALUE ANYWHERE.THE VALUE THAT THE PRESERVATION CALENDAR HELD HAD HELD WAS SIGNIFICANT FOR EVENTS LIKE BRIDAL SHOWS, THE HOME TOURS, FARMERS MARKET, THE HOLIDAY TEAS AND MORE. AS I MENTIONED TO BETTY, IF THE VALUE IS GONE FROM THE CALENDAR, THEN THERE IS NO INCENTIVE TO ADVERTISE ANYMORE.
AND WITHOUT ADVERTISING, THE CALENDAR DOES NOT SUPPORT ITSELF. LITTLE DOES SHE KNOW, IT'S NOW A BUDGET LINE ITEM. THAT SAID, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM BETTY IS THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ACCIDENTALLY CHANGED THE NATURE OF THE CALENDAR. IF THE PLANS ARE TO READJUST AND REISSUE THE DATES IN THE 2026 CALENDAR, THEN WE ARE ALL SET. BUT IF THERE IS A BOARD CITY DISCUSSION ABOUT NOT ADDING THE DATES BACK IN FOR 2026, THEN THE DOWNTOWN MUSEUMS WOULD KINDLY REQUEST A MEETING WITH THE BOARD. THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO WITH THE COMMUNITY. SO I UNDERSTAND WHERE SHE'S COMING FROM. TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, I DON'T DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT IT COULD BE AN ISSUE BECAUSE I'M JUST A CONSUMER AND NOT AND I LIVE WE LIVE HERE CLOSE ENOUGH. AND BETTY TELLS ME ALL THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. SO. SO ANYWAY, SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST IT HAD THIS WHICH I KNOW THAT YOU IT JUST BASICALLY LISTS ALL THE MAIN EVENTS. SO THIS IS WHAT WAS IN THE CALENDAR, RIGHT. AND THEN IT WOULD SHOW UP, YOU KNOW, ON THE AS WHICH I THINK THAT'S SOME VALID FEEDBACK. YEAH, I DO TOO. BUT IT IS IT IS A FAIR AMOUNT MORE WORK. I WILL SAY WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PUT THEM BACK ON THE DATES THEMSELVES. WELL, I MEAN, THEORETICALLY WE CAN DO ANYTHING WITH IT. YES. BUT WE DID HEAR ALSO FEEDBACK THAT THEY WANTED THE BOXES BIGGER SO THEY COULD WRITE THEIR OWN INFORMATION IN THERE, THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT THAT IN IT. YEAH. AND THAT CAME FROM A BOARD MEMBER. BUT I DON'T SEE ANY HARM IN PUTTING THE EVENTS IN THERE. SOMETHING THAT WE DID RUN INTO WAS WE HAVE TO GET IT TO NOW THAT WE'RE SENDING THIS TO A DESIGNER TO KIND OF MAKE IT FOR US, WE DO NEED THE DATES EARLIER THAN WHAT THAT USED TO BE IN THE PAST, WHEN WE WERE MAKING THEM KIND OF IN-HOUSE. WE COULD WAIT A LOT LONGER BECAUSE WE WERE JUST WAITING ON PRINTING. NOW THAT WE'RE SENDING THEM OUT TO A DESIGNER, I THINK LAST YEAR FOR TRANSPARENCY, I THINK WE SUBMITTED THE EVERYTHING TO THE DESIGNER IN MID-JULY AND GOT IT AT THE LAST OF SEPTEMBER, SO WE WOULD NEED THE EVENTS PRETTY EARLY. YEAH. IS THAT POSSIBLE TO GET THEM THAT EARLY? THAT IS UP TO WHOEVER IS DOING THE EVENTS. YEAH, THAT'S I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ASK FOR EVENTS AND TRY AND GET THAT INFORMATION. I DON'T SEE WHY NOT. IF YOU ALL ARE HAPPY TO PUT THE EVENTS BACK IN.
WELL, I THINK SHE I THINK HER POINT IS VALID. I MEAN, MY, MY PERSPECTIVE WAS INITIALLY THAT, WELL, IT'S A PRETTY CALENDAR. IT'S GOT BEAUTIFUL HOUSES ON IT AND IT'S NICE TO LOOK AT AND IT'S PRETTY TO LOOK AT ALL THESE HOUSES. BUT I CAN SEE WHERE SHE'S COMING FROM. WELL, WE CAN'T BE ALL THINGS TO ALL PEOPLE, AND WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO TRY. IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SPACE TAKEN UP WITH ADS. RIGHT? RIGHT. AND SO NOW WE'RE GETTING FUNDED AND SO MAYBE MORE, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE AS MANY ADS OR IT'S NOT AS MUCH OF AN ISSUE AS A PUBLIC SERVICE SINCE WE'RE GETTING FUNDED BY THE CITY, WHY NOT DO SOMETHING THAT'S A PUBLIC SERVICE FOR THE CITY AND ITS CONSTITUENTS AND MAYBE ADD THEM BACK IN? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.
WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SPACE, OBVIOUSLY, BUT SO EVERY YEAR, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY ADS WE GET, DEPENDS ON HOW MANY PAGES WE CAN GET. GOTCHA. THIS THIS IS WHAT THEY HAD FOR. SO IT WAS ON.
SO TOM, WAS KAREN ASKING FOR THE HEARD? THE HEARD MUSEUM, ALL OF THEIR EVENTS TO BE ON THE CALENDAR AND THE NORTH TEXAS HISTORY MUSEUM, ALL OF THEIR EVENTS ALONG WITH THE CITY EVENTS. SO IN THE PAST, WAS THAT HER? YES. SO I THINK, YES, THAT THE MUSEUMS WANT THEIR EVENTS ON
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THEIR. DID DID THEY USED TO DID THEY PUT THEM ON THE ACTUAL CALENDAR OR DID THEY JUST HAVE A LIST LIKE THAT? BECAUSE IF YOU PUT IT IN A SPACE, RIGHT. THEY ACTUALLY HAD THEM. 2021. YEAH.LIKE IT REALLY WOULDN'T WOULD IT TAKE UP AS MUCH SPACE IF YOU JUST PUT THEM ON THE DATES ON THE DATES IS THE HARDER PLACE TO PUT THEM? OKAY. IF WE JUST HAVE LIKE A LIST. SO OF COURSE I DON'T SEE THE CALENDAR HANDY, BUT WE COULD DO LIKE WHAT? BETTY IS HOLDING UP THAT PAGE. THAT'S A LIST. OH, YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. LIKE, THAT WOULD BE PRETTY EASY. SO IT'S HARDER TO PUT THEM ON EACH DATE. IT IS, BECAUSE THEN WE NEED TO QUALITY CONTROL THE DESIGNER WHO PUT THEM ON THE DATES AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ALL ON THE RIGHT DATES. OKAY. AND I KNOW THAT YEAR SPECIFICALLY, SOME OF THEM WERE MESSED UP. OR THEN IF YOU RESCHEDULE AND YOU'RE OUT OF SORTS. YEAH. I MEAN, ONE OF THE THIS SO ON THIS ONE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S THIS YEARS BUT SO. THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW. SO TO GET ALL THE SPACE I GUESS. IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, YOU WANT BIGGER BOXES SO YOU CAN WRITE STUFF IN IT. THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO AWAY WITH THE LITTLE THING ON THE SIDE. IS THERE LIKE A CLEARINGHOUSE IN THE CITY WHERE, LIKE SO, SO LIKE, YOU KNOW, COULD YOU SAY SOMETHING LIKE THESE DATES ARE, YOU KNOW, NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION, YOU KNOW, CANCELLATIONS DUE TO WEATHER, ETCETERA, ETCETERA, AND THEN GO TO THIS SITE BEFORE THE EVENT TO ENSURE THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY GOING TO BE. COULD YOU SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YEAH. WE COULD. BECAUSE I MEAN, ON A BACK MCKINNEY HAS ALL THAT STUFF ON IT TOO. SO YOU COULD GIVE THEM AS LIKE, THESE ARE THE DATES THAT WE HAVE AS OF BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. YOU KNOW, PLEASE, PLEASE ENSURE THAT IT'S STILL GOING FOR THAT DATE BY VISITING THIS WEBSITE. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE TO JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, AS OF JULY 1ST, THESE ARE THE DATES THAT WE HAVE. PLEASE VISIT THESE KEY WEBSITES TO FIND OUT MORE. WELL, I MEAN AND THEY KNOW ABOUT THE APPROXIMATE LIKE, OKAY, IT'S THIRD WEEK AND WHATEVER. PROBABLY I DON'T KNOW. SO MAYBE IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE TO EXTEND AN INVITATION TO DOCTOR ZUPANIC BECAUSE SHE SAID, IF YOU'RE NOT WILLING. TO DO THAT, TO ADD IN ALL THIS STUFF, SHE'D LIKE TO REQUEST A MEETING WITH THE BOARD. SO I WOULD SAY, I DON'T KNOW. WE HAVE POTENTIALLY ON THE DOCKET FOR MARCH, BUT LET'S INVITE HER TO COME SPEAK TO US AND PRESENT HER THOUGHTS. AND IN THAT WAY, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH HER ABOUT WHAT CAN AND CANNOT BE DONE. IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THIS IS A FREE CALENDAR THAT GETS HANDED OUT. IT DOES COST THE ADVERTISERS MONEY. BUT MY YOU KNOW, I DON'T. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH WE BRING IN AND FROM ADVERTISING RELATIVE TO THE OVERALL COST? NO, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AGAIN. I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS WHAT WE'RE.
BECAUSE WHAT YOU YOU ADVERTISE, RIGHT, IS ABOUT 250 PER PER BOX. IT'S ALL DEPENDENT UPON SIZE AND PLACEMENT. BUT YOU ALWAYS GET A REALLY BIG ONE, DON'T YOU? SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR A WORK SESSION FOR US, OR DO WE DO THAT IN A REGULAR SESSION? I'LL LOOK INTO IT FURTHER AND SEE WHAT WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES COULD BE. WELL, SO THE. WORK SESSIONS, YOU COULD HAVE A WORK SESSION. WE CAN. YOU USUALLY DO NOT HAVE WORK SESSIONS. NOW THAT THE WHOLE NOTION OF I RETIRED, I'M NOT WORKING. I'D LIKE TO HAVE A WORK SESSION. YOU KNOW, IF ASSUMING WE DON'T HAVE A, I'M NOT AFRAID OF A LITTLE WORK. NEXT TIME, MAYBE IT WOULD BE VALUABLE TO GET HER IN HERE TO TALK ABOUT. BECAUSE I LOVE THAT PEOPLE HAVE A STRONG OPINION ABOUT THIS, AND SHE CLEARLY DOES. AND I'D LIKE TO GET HER FEEDBACK, FEEDBACK AND SEE IF THERE'S COMMON GROUND OR COMPROMISE GROUND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MY SENSE IS. SOMEBODY WHO IS DEVELOPING A CALENDAR SHOULD HAVE SOME LINK BETWEEN A SERIES OF DATES AND INFORMATION THAT WILL AUTOMATICALLY POPULATE ON THE IN THE BOX ON THE CALENDAR. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I MEAN, THAT DESIGN SOFTWARE SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT. AND IF IT DOESN'T, THEN I THINK I HAVE AN IDEA FOR A NEW COMPANY. RIGHT. SO ANYWAY, I DON'T KNOW IF THE DESIGNER IS SOMEBODY WHO'S IN THAT TYPE OF THEY ARE A CALENDAR DESIGNER. THEY DESIGN A LOT OF CALENDARS. OKAY. IT MIGHT BE WORTH ASKING THEM. HOW? HOW AUTOMATED THAT WOULD BE IF WE JUST GAVE THEM ALL THE DATES WE HAD. IF THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO POPULATE IT WITHOUT HAVING TO, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO UPLOAD IT. IS THAT WHAT
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YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH. YEAH, EXACTLY. BUT, YOU KNOW, EXCEL SPREADSHEET OR SOMETHING.A LOT OF, A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE MULTIPLE EVENTS. AND I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PICK AND CHOOSE? TO ME, THAT'S I MEAN, HOW DO YOU PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT ON THERE? AND, YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU LEAVE ONE OFF, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S A GREAT IDEA, BUT I, WE, WE HAVE SO MANY EVENTS GOING ON SOMETIMES, LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT YOU DO. AND IF YOU LEAVE ONE OFF, THEN ARE YOU GOING TO YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A VALID I THINK THAT'S A VALID CONCERN. HOWEVER, I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT SHE SAID A LOT OF THAT'S WHAT HER CUSTOMERS ARE LOOKING FOR, THE DATES, AND IT IS KIND OF HANDY TO HAVE THEM ON THE CALENDAR. YEAH, I'LL SAY THIS RIGHT NOW, THE CALENDAR IS KIND OF BARE. THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD DISCERN WHAT WOULD GO IN THERE WOULD BE THE BOARD. AND OF COURSE, CASSIE, I THINK TOO, YOU HAVE MANY OTHER COMMUNITY EVENTS WHICH WE HAVE NOT COVERED BEFORE, SUCH AS MCKINNEY ISD HAS CONCERTS, HOLIDAY SEASONAL CONCERTS, AND WE HAVE EVENTS AT THE. IMPACT THAT MIGHT NOT BE KNOWN AT THIS TIME, BUT THEY CAN BE SAID THAT THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE ONGOING. REFERENCES LIKE THAT BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER. I THINK FOR CONCERTS LIKE AT CHRISTMAS AND OTHER TIMES. SO YOU COULD YOU COULD LOOK FIRST AT THE BOARDS, THE DIFFERENT BOARDS. WHAT DO THEY HAVE GOING ON. BECAUSE WE'RE A BOARD. SO AND THIS IS RIGHT CALENDAR THAT WE'RE PRODUCING AS A BOARD. SO JUST LOOK AT ALL OF THE CITY COUNCIL BOARDS AND START THERE AND THEN SEE HOW MUCH MORE ROOM WE HAVE. RIGHT. LIKE IF IT'S A MAIN STREET EVENT, THAT'S A BOARD, RIGHT? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EVENTS OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BOARD MEETINGS? NO, NO. LIKE EVENTS. SO LIKE MOST OF THE EVENTS ON THE SQUARE. RIGHT. SO YEAH.
EXACTLY, EXACTLY. CREATED BY THE BOARD. SO THE CRITERIA IS CITY SPONSORED DOWNTOWN EVENTS, MUSEUMS, WHICH ARE ALSO PART OF THE CULTURE AND HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND IT SHOULD PROBABLY BE LIMITED TO THOSE THINGS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS CALENDAR REPRESENTS. AND THEREFORE IT SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULD BE THE KREWE OF MARCUS. IT SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE BRIDAL WHATEVER. THE STUFF THAT HAPPENS DOWN HERE SHOULD BE WHAT'S IN THERE. AND IT SHOULDN'T REALLY EXPAND OUT TO ANYTHING ELSE OUTSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY, KIND OF KIND OF MY VIEW. AND WE CAN SET THAT CRITERIA. YEAH. I MEAN, THE IMPACT, THE REPERTORY, THEY HAVE A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON. SO MAYBE IT'S SUFFICE IT TO SAY THAT TYPICALLY THESE ARE THE WEEKENDS THAT THEY HAVE. NO, NOT TO GET REAL SPECIFIC ON THAT, BUT JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE WEEKENDS THAT TYPICALLY THEY'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING PLAYS AND SHOWS. MAKE SURE YOU KEY IN ON THAT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NO, I THINK IT'S ALL VERY GOOD FEEDBACK. I THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IF Y'ALL ARE OKAY WITH IT IS HAVE A MEETING WITH KAREN. OKAY. JUST A STAFF LEVEL. YEAH. INSTEAD OF BRINGING HER IN FRONT OF THE BOARD FIRST.
AND JUST KIND OF GET TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT SHE WANTED AND HER EXPECTATIONS, AS WELL AS GIVE ME TIME TO MEET WITH OUR ACTUAL THE DESIGNER AND PRINTER OF IT, JUST TO SEE WHAT THE ACTUAL POSSIBILITIES ARE. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S A MUCH BETTER IDEA THAN GETTING IT MUDDLING THE WATER WITH 5 OR 6 OTHER PEOPLE EXPRESSING THEIR OPINION. WELL, AND WOULDN'T WE WANT TO INCLUDE CHESTNUT SQUARE AND THE NORTH TEXAS HISTORY MUSEUM? I MEAN, WHICH ARE, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT? YEAH. ENTITIES. WELL, AND, CASSIE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU NEED HELP, WE'RE ALWAYS HERE TO HELP YOU. OF COURSE, WE DON'T WANT TO. WE DON'T WANT TO ADD TO YOUR WORKLOAD, BUT WE ARE WILLING TO HELP YOU. BUT WE'RE ADDING TO YOUR WORKLOAD. OKAY.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GIVE YOU THIS SO YOU CAN REACH OUT TO DOCTOR ZUPANIC? DO YOU KNOW HER? GOOD. I DO NOT. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. ALONG WITH Y'ALL. NOW THAT YOU HAVE ALL THIS HELP. YEAH. OKAY. WELL. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. THAT WAS GOOD.
AND I DO AGREE WITH REACHING OUT TO ANA AND THE LEGACY FOLKS. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. YOU KNOW, CHESTNUT SQUARE WITH THEIR FUNDRAISER IS THE HOLIDAY HOME TOUR. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE HOMES HAVE BEEN ON THE CALENDAR BEFORE, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD PLACE TO START.
I'LL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THOSE AS WELL. I'LL LOOK INTO THOSE AS WELL. OKAY. I'LL SEE IF I CAN GET YOU A LIST. WELL, CARRIE, YOU HAVE THAT LIST, DON'T YOU? WELL, WELL, ONCE, ONCE CASSIE TALKS TO YOU. YEAH, I'M SURE WE COULD. YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT US TO HELP COMPILE A LIST, THEN GIVE US THE GREEN LIGHT ON THAT. AND WE CAN DO THAT. YOU DON'T WANT TO INUNDATE YOU WITH TOO
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MUCH RIGHT NOW. LET ME SPEAK TO HER FIRST, AND THEN I'LL COME BACK WITH. OKAY, COOL. YEAH, I LIKE I LIKE GETTING FEEDBACK. IT'S BETTER THAN GETTING NO FEEDBACK WHATSOEVER. WELL, IT SHOWS THEY HAVE AN INTEREST IN WHAT WE'RE DOING. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. IT'S IT IS ONE OF, IF YOU WILL, ONE OF OUR CUSTOMERS RELEVANT? OR AT LEAST SOMEONE WAS LOOKING THROUGH ALL THE PAGES. SOMEBODY WAS LOOKING AT IT. ALL RIGHT. WE'VE ALREADY DONE. DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. SO I'M GOING TO CHECK THAT OFF. SO THAT SHOULD BE THE END OF THE THIS PROGRAM. SO DO WE HAVE ANY GENERAL CITIZEN COMMENTS REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. DOES NOT APPEAR TO[BOARD AND STAFF COMMENTS]
BE THE CASE. DO THE BOARD MEMBERS OR STAFF HAVE ANY FURTHER BUSINESS TO DISCUSS? DISCUSS. STAFF DOES. EXCELLENT. HI. SO NEWLY WITH US IS OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLANNER, REINA. SHE STARTED EXACTLY A MONTH AGO TODAY. SO. RIGHT? RIGHT. SHE WILL START GIVING PRESENTATIONS TO YOU ALL IN THE COMING MONTHS. AND THIS IS FOR FULL NAME. REINA. REINA. REINA.OKAY. WELCOME. WE'RE GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE. I KNOW CASSIE IS GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE. VERY MUCH SO. WELL. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER FURTHER BUSINESS FOR THE. ANY BOARD MEMBERS WANT TO SPEAK MORE THAN MARSHA? YOU'VE BEEN SO INCREDIBLY QUIET DOWN THERE. I'VE BEEN LAUGHING AT ALL Y'ALL'S JOKES. WELL, KERRY AND MARSHA, THANK YOU ALL FOR STEPPING IN WHEN WE HAD AN ABSENCE, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING? SO MOVE. AND THAT WAS JOHANNA. THE MOTION. DO I HEAR A SECOND? JAMES WEST WITH A SECOND. ALL RIGHT, YOU'RE READY TO VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNING THE MEETING. AND MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. THAT WOULD BE DONE. THANKS, CASSIE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CASSIE.
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