Mar 31, 2025 City Council Regular Meeting

[CALL TO ORDER]

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GOOD EVENING I SHOULD SAY. TODAY IS MONDAY, MARCH 31ST. THE YEAR 2025. WE'RE IN THE NEW COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 401 EAST VIRGINIA STREET IN THE GREAT CITY OF MCKINNEY. IT IS 602 IN THE EVENING, OUR CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING. THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS WILL BE INVOCATION, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. THE INVOCATION WILL BE GIVEN BY MAJOR ANGEL CALDERON OF THE SALVATION ARMY. AND MAJOR, YOU'LL BE GIVING A PRESENTATION RIGHT AFTER OUR PLEDGE. SO IF YOU WOULD STAY UP, UP HERE AFTER YOUR AFTER THE INVOCATION, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

JEREMY. PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THIS WONDERFUL DAY. THANK YOU, FATHER, FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL FACILITY. FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, THE WORKING, THE WORKING TO YOU IN THIS COMMUNITY. THE MCKINNEY FATHER, WE NEED YOU. WE NEED YOU PRESENT. WE NEED YOU, HOLY SPIRIT, ABOUT THE CITY FATHERS. WE ARE IN YOUR HANDS. AND WE DECLARE, FATHER, IN THIS MOMENT, VICTORY IN THIS CITY. YOU ARE IN CONTROL OF EVERYTHING, LORD. AND WE'RE PUT IN EVERY SINGLE SITUATIONS IN YOUR HANDS. AND WE PRAY IN THE NAME OF JESUS, YOUR SON. AMEN, AMEN, AMEN. YOU'LL JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR US. GOOD EVENING, MAJORS, GOOD EVENING. WE ARE MAJORS ANGEL AND VALERIE CALDERON, REPRESENTING THE SALVATION ARMY OF MCKINNEY. AND IN THIS EVENING, WE WANT TO THANK YOU, MAJOR GEORGE FULLER AND YOUR CITY LEADERS, FOR PARTICIPATING IN OUR MAYORAL RED KETTLE CAMPAIGN IN 2020. FOR THE OTHER COMPETING MAYORS THAT PARTICIPATED WERE THE MAYOR FROM ANNA, PETE KANE AND PROSPER MAYOR DAVID BRISTOL. WE WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU, MAYOR FULLER, FOR BEING A BIG ADVOCATE FOR THE SALVATION ARMY DURING YOUR TERM AS A MAYOR, YOUR SUPPORT FOR OUR NEIGHBORS FACING POVERTY, ADDICTION AND HOMELESSNESS HAS BEEN STEADFAST. IN ADDITION, YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THE MAYORAL CHALLENGE OVER THE YEARS HAS BEEN WONDERFUL TO SEE, AND IT SHOWS YOUR COMMITMENT TO OUR NEIGHBORS HERE THAT ARE FACING SO MANY DIFFERENT SITUATIONS. WE'RE PLEASED IN THIS EVENING TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS CERTIFICATE AND THE BELL TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR HELPING THE CHALLENGE RAISE MUCH NEEDED FUNDS FOR THE SALVATION ARMY OF MCKINNEY. YOU. THIS YEAR, YOUR TEAM RAISED A TOTAL OF $749, OF WHICH $514 WITH $0.52 WAS FROM BELL RINGING. IN DECEMBER, THE SIXTH AND $234 WERE FROM THREE DONORS THROUGH THE RED VIRTUAL KETTLES. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE OWE YOU A HUGE DEBT OF GRATITUDE BECAUSE OF YOUR EFFORTS, WHICH HELPED INSPIRED FOUR MAYORAL TEAMS THAT COMPETED AND IN TURN INSPIRED SEVEN DONORS TO GIVE A TOTAL OF $3,053, WITH $0.95 IN DONATIONS.

WE'RE SO APPRECIATIVE OF EVERYTHING THAT'S DOING, AND WITH THESE MONIES THAT WE COLLECT, WE USE IT TO HELP SO MANY PEOPLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. WE JUST HAD A WOMAN WHO HAD COME TO OUR OFFICE. HER NAME WAS DONNA, AND HER ONLY MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION WAS A SIMPLE BICYCLE. SHE USED TO GO ALL AROUND THE COMMUNITY. THAT WAS BASICALLY HER IDENTITY HERSELF. HOW SHE FELT EMPOWERED, THAT NOTHING COULD STOP HER WITH HER BICYCLE. AND ONE DAY SHE CAME CRYING BECAUSE THE ONLY MEANS SHE HAD TO GO AROUND THE COMMUNITY WAS STOLEN FROM HER.

AND WITH THESE MONIES, WE WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE A BRAND NEW BICYCLE FOR HER. AND WHEN SHE CAME IN NOT TOO LONG AGO INTO THE INTO OUR OFFICES, SHE LOOKED EMPOWERED. SHE LOOKED HAPPY. SHE WAS WITH A BRIGHT SMILE. AND IT WAS JUST BASICALLY, IT'S NOT BECAUSE SHE JUST GOT BACK A BICYCLE. SHE FELT THAT EMPOWERMENT, THAT NOW SHE WAS ABLE TO CONTINUE TO DO FURTHER.

AND THIS IS JUST A LITTLE EXAMPLE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HOW EVERY LITTLE BIT COUNTS. AND THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR HELPING US WITH THAT IN THIS MOMENT. WE WOULD LOVE TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS BELL AND CERTIFICATE.

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[Proclamation for Child Abuse Prevention Month]

COME ON IT. YOU'RE WORKING TODAY, AREN'T YOU? ARE YOU? OH MY GOD. I LOVE IT DOWN PEOPLE'S PHONES. CITY OF MCKINNEY PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS CHILDREN THRIVE IN SAFE, STABLE AND NURTURING FAMILIES WITHIN THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES. WHILE CRISIS INTERVENTION IS CRITICAL, PROACTIVE SUPPORT FOR FAMILIES BEFORE A CRISIS ARISES IS KEY TO PREVENTING CHILD ABUSE AND MALTREATMENT. BY BUILDING PARTNERSHIPS THAT LEVERAGE THE STRENGTHS OF PARENTS AND CHILDREN, WE CAN FOSTER RESILIENT FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES WHERE CHILDREN CAN FLOURISH. AND WHEREAS CHILD MALTREATMENT REMAINS A SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE, COMMUNITIES WITHOUT ACCESSIBLE RESOURCES FACE INCREASED RISKS. YET WITH THE RIGHT SUPPORT, IT CAN BE PREVENTED. AND WHEREAS EACH APRIL, WE RECOGNIZE THE ONGOING EFFORTS TO SUPPORT FAMILIES AND PREVENT CHILD ABUSE BEFORE CRISIS EMERGES, FAMILIES, NEIGHBORS, FAITH BASED ORGANIZATIONS, ADVOCACY GROUPS, SCHOOLS, HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS, SOCIAL WORKERS, AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES WORK TIRELESSLY TO PROVIDE ACCESSIBLE RESOURCES THAT STRENGTHEN FAMILIES AND PROTECT CHILDREN. WHEREAS PREVENTING CHILD ABUSE IS A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY, BEHIND EVERY THRIVING FAMILY IS A SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITY THAT EMPOWERS THEM TO SUCCEED. IT IS VITAL FOR EVERYONE TO COLLABORATE, TO BUILD LOCAL SUPPORT THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE WELL-BEING OF FAMILIES AND ENSURES CHILDREN'S SAFETY. I URGE ALL MCKINNEY TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE EFFORTS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY TO CREATE HEALTHY, SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENTS FOR THE LEADERS OF TOMORROW. TOGETHER, WE CAN BUILD A BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR CHILDREN, FAMILIES, AND COMMUNITIES IN OUR CITY. THEREFORE, I, GEORGE FULLER, BY THE POWER VESTED IN ME AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, TEXAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 2025 TO BE CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS, URGING THE APPROPRIATE RECOGNITION WHEREOF WITNESS MY HAND AND SEAL THIS 31ST DAY OF MARCH, 2025. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU TO THE CITY COUNCIL. CHILD ABUSE IS SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS ALL OF US, AND IT TAKES ALL OF US WORKING TOGETHER TO COLLABORATE TO HELP OUR KIDS. SO ALL OF US REPRESENT DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS. OUR ORGANIZATION, MY ORGANIZATION IS FOSTER FRIENDS AND WHAT WE DO. WE ARE A NONPROFIT. WE WORK TO MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR THE KIDS WHO ARE THRUST INTO A SITUATION THEY DIDN'T CHOOSE. SO WE PLAN EVENTS FOR THEM, THINGS THAT MAKE THEM HAPPIER. WE HAVE. WE JUST HAD A LITTLE SHOPPING SPREE FOR THEM, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE AT THE END OF THE YEAR OR THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR, WE WILL HAVE A BACK TO SCHOOL DRIVE, WHERE WE COLLECT SHOES FOR 650 KIDS. SO IF YOU CARE TO JOIN US, WE WOULD LOVE THAT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU, MISS REEVES. I HAVE A QUESTION. I'M STANDING BEHIND YOU. I'M DOING WELL. SURE. GOOD TO SEE YOU. MICHAEL JONES AND MYSELF, AS WELL AS MANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY STAFF, ATTENDED THE GALA THIS WEEKEND FOR THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER. AND I WHEN I LEFT, THEY WERE WELL ABOVE A HALF MILLION DOLLARS THAT THEY RAISED IN ONE NIGHT. DO ANY OF YOU LADIES HAVE THE TOTAL OF WHAT WAS GIVEN ON BEHALF OF THE CHILDREN OF COLLIN COUNTY? IT'S ALL GOOD THAT, AS YOU KNOW, I SAW YOU AT AN EARLIER EVENT, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT. WELL, WELL, WELL, BEFORE THE BIDDING CLOSED ON THE SILENT AUCTION, THE NUMBER I RECEIVED WAS $578,000. AND. YOU KNOW, I WON THE CAR. I'LL JUST TELL YOU,

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. I THINK THAT'S. THANK YOU. EMPRESS, DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT

[CONSENT AGENDA]

THESE ITEMS CONSIST OF NON-CONTROVERSIAL HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS REQUIRED BY LAW. ITEMS MAY BE CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY BY ANY COUNCIL MEMBER MAKING SUCH REQUEST PRIOR TO A MOTION AND VOTE ON THE CONSENT ITEMS, UNLESS THERE IS AN ITEM THAT SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO PULL DOWN.

ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON CONSENT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THE CONSENT. I'LL SECOND. YOU ALL. WANT TO DO ROCK, PAPER, SCISSORS? SEE WHO GOT THAT? I'LL TAKE IT. OKAY. WHERE'S THE BUTTONS AT? GIVE THAT TO MAYOR PRO TEM ON THE SECOND. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. I DON'T KNOW THAT. ALL RIGHT, MOVE TO REGULAR AGENDA, PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. THIS

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on Certain Amendments to Chapter 150, Entitled “Unified Development Code,” of the Code of Ordinances, City of McKinney, Texas, to: (1) Correct Typographical Errors and Make Nonsubstantive Editorial Changes to Article 2 (Zoning Regulations), including Appendix 2B (McKinney Town Center MTC); and (2) Make Certain Substantive Changes to Article 2 (Zoning Regulations), Specifically to Section 205 (Use Regulations) and Appendix 2B (McKinney Town Center MTC), and Accompanying Ordinance]

IT IS ARRAY OF DIFFERENT CHARACTER DISTRICTS. I WON'T I WON'T BELABOR IT. WE ALL HAVE SEEN OUR BEAUTIFUL DOWNTOWN, BUT IT IS OUR DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT CAUSE, OUR DIFFERENT EDGES AND ALL OF THE BEAUTIFUL CHARACTER DISTRICTS THAT WE'VE COME TO KNOW AND LOVE. SO OUR AMENDMENT GOALS, WHENEVER WE WERE DOING THIS, WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS EASIER TO USE.

WE WERE TRYING TO CLEAN UP SOME LANGUAGE, AND WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT ACTUALLY MATCHED WITH OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. THERE ARE SOME ITEMS IN THE MTC THAT WERE A LITTLE ANTIQUATED, AND SO WE WERE JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE WERE GETTING THOSE CLEANED UP, AND THAT THE UDC AND THE MTC ACTUALLY MATCH. SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED WITH THE CHANGES BECAUSE IT WILL IMPROVE THE EASE OF USE. SO JUST A REMINDER ON THE TIMELINE, WE ACTUALLY STARTED THIS IN DECEMBER. YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE. WE CAME BEFORE Y'ALL. DECEMBER 17TH CALLED FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH P AND Z BACK IN MARCH, AND NOW WE ARE HERE BEFORE Y'ALL WITH THOSE CHANGES THAT WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ANYTHING. SINCE THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WE HAVE CHANGED. SO YOU GUYS SHOULD BE GOOD TO GO ON SOME OF THESE THINGS. BUT JUST A REMINDER, WE DID THIS IN TWO DIFFERENT TYPES. IT'S FINE TUNING WHICH IS THE NON-SUBSTANTIVE. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE TYPOS. THAT'S GOING TO BE CLARIFICATIONS. THAT'S IMPROVING THE EASE OF USE. AND THEN OF COURSE THERE'S TRUE MODIFICATIONS WHICH ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE ACTUALLY MODIFYING OUR LAND USES. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE UPDATING THE STANDARDS, THE CRITERIAS, THINGS THAT WILL ACTUALLY IMPACT HOW PEOPLE CAN DEVELOP AND USE THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE MTC. SO DIFFERENT FINE TUNING THINGS. THESE ARE ALL THE DIFFERENT SECTIONS THAT WE DID. FIXES FOR TYPOS. WE MADE SURE THAT EVERYTHING MATCHED FROM THE UDC TO THE MTC. AND IT WAS. IT WAS A LABOR OF LOVE. SO WE CAN ALL THANK CAMERON AND WE CAN THANK

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SIMILAR TO THAT BECAUSE AUTO LAUNDRY IS A CAR WASH, BY THE WAY, IN CASE NO ONE KNEW.

MODIFICATIONS. SO WE MADE SURE WHENEVER SOME MODIFICATIONS. REMINDER THESE ARE BIG CHANGES.

SO TABLE OF USES WE ADDED COMMUNITY GARDEN. WE ADDED WARMING STATION AND THEN WE ALSO ADDED ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATION BECAUSE THOSE WERE ITEMS THAT PEOPLE WOULD COME INTO THE MTC AND THEY WOULD ASK TO BE ABLE TO DO IT BECAUSE A LOT OF CHURCHES WILL ACTUALLY COME TO UTILIZE WARMING STATIONS, OR PEOPLE WANTED TO COME PUT A ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATION DOWNTOWN. AND IT WAS IT WAS TECHNICALLY NOT A USE. SO WE CLEANED THAT UP. AND YOU GUYS ARE ACTUALLY ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT. NOW. BIGGER CHANGES THAT WE HAD ARE GOING TO BE CRAFT CONSUMABLES, WHICH IS GOING TO BE AN ENTIRELY NEW USE. IT IS ACTUALLY ONE THAT WAS THE CONSOLIDATION OF MULTIPLE USES INTO ONE NEW USE, AS WELL AS THE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT, WHICH IS INDOOR AND OUTDOOR. SO CRAFT CONSUMABLES. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN DECEMBER, BUT JUST A REMINDER THAT THIS IS GOING TO COVER SMALL SCALE PRODUCTION. THIS IS GOING TO BE YOUR CHOCOLATIERS. THIS IS GOING TO BE YOUR COFFEE ROASTERIES. THIS IS BREWERIES, WINERIES, ANYONE THAT IS MAKING SOME KIND OF CONSUMABLE PRODUCT AT A SMALLER SCALE. SO WE'RE NOT TALKING, WE'RE NOT TALKING. SOMEONE'S DOING A GIANT MILLER LITE DISTRIBUTION CENTER. WE'RE TALKING OUR GOODY'S CHOCOLATE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO COME IN AND ROAST COFFEE AND ALSO SELL IT ON SITE. UNION BEAR, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD ONE AS WELL. BUT YEAH, SO WITH THE CONSOLIDATION CURRENTLY IN THE UDC, IT'S MICROBREWERY, DISTILLERY, WINERY, CIDERY, CURRENTLY IN THE MTC, IT'S BREWERY, MICROBREWERY, WINERY. WE HAVE ACTUALLY UPDATED THE UDC AND THE MTC AND THEY ARE NOW GOING TO BE TOGETHER AS ONE AS ONE LOVELY CRAFT CONSUMABLE.

THIS WILL MAKE IT EASIER SO THAT WE ARE NOT HAVING TO PIECEMEAL. WHENEVER SOMEONE COMES IN AND THEY'RE WANTING TO DO A WINERY AND WE'RE TRYING TO BREAK IT OUT, CRAFT CONSUMABLES WILL BE ABLE TO CAPTURE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. WE ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY KEEP IT PRETTY SIMILAR TO HOW IT APPLIES IN THE UDC ALREADY, WHICH IS BUILDINGS THAT ARE ONLY WITHIN THE LESS THAN 2000FT■!S.T CAN GO UP HIGHER IF IT CONTAINS THE RESTAURANT COMPONENT AS WELL AS THE STORE. AND OF COURSE, THIS IS ALL GOING TO MIRROR THAT EXISTING CRITERIA THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE UDC. AND SO THIS WILL APPLY TO THE MTC. AND THEN OUR C TWO ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE WITHIN THE UDC.

AND THEN FINALLY WE HAVE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT. SO COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT IS GOING TO BE YOUR DIFFERENT KINDS OF ENTERTAINMENT LIKE OUR AX THROWING. AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE HERE WE HAVE A PARTY IN PLAY CENTER. BUT THAT IS GOING TO BE RIGHT NOW. IT'S BROKEN UP INTO COMMERCIAL ENTERTAINMENT AND RECEPTION EVENT CENTER. AND SO THESE ARE GOING TO BE THE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR INDOOR COMMERCIAL ENTERTAINMENT AND INDOOR EVENT CENTER. SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT IS ONLY NOT PERMITTED WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN EDGE. IT WILL NOW BE PERMITTED WITH A CRITERIA. AND THEN THERE ARE A FEW THAT ARE GOING FROM OUR SPECIFIC USE PERMITS. THEY'LL NOW BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT. AND THEN THERE'S A COUPLE THAT ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT THAT WILL NOW BE THROUGH CRITERIA. WE DID VERIFY WHENEVER WE DID THE CHANGES THAT WE WOULD NOT BE IMPACTING ANY EXISTING BUSINESSES. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL WERE AWARE WITH THE COMMERCIAL INDOOR PROPOSED, IT SHALL BE LOCATED IN A MINIMUM OF 300. IT SHALL BE LOCATED A MINIMUM OF 300FT AWAY FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL USES, WHICH IS EASY TO DO WITHIN THE MTC SINCE IT IS A BEAUTIFUL BLEND OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL. AS WELL AS THIS PERMIT PROVISION WILL MAKE SURE IT CAN BE ELIMINATED BY AN SUP. SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GO 250FT AGAINST A RESIDENTIAL, THEY CAN COME BEFORE YOU ALL AND REQUEST THAT SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. NEXT WOULD BE THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL ENTERTAINMENT OUTDOOR. THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT CHANGING VERY MUCH. PROPOSED. THE ONLY AREA THAT IS TRULY CHANGING FOR Y'ALL IS

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BUT ALL RIGHT. SO THEY'LL COME FOR A SPECIAL USE, CORRECT? YES. ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE A QUESTION. YOU HAD SAID IN REGARD TO ONE OF THE VERY SPECIFIC CHANGES THAT IS BEING PROPOSED, THAT NO BUSINESS WOULD BE AFFECTED BY IT. ARE THERE ANY ON ANY OF THESE CHANGES THAT MAKE AN EXISTING USE A ALLOWABLE NON-CONFORMING USE? YOU'RE YOU'RE GOING TO BE MY NEXT QUESTION. SO GO AHEAD. SO WHENEVER WE WERE REVIEWING IT AND I WILL VERIFY WITH CAMERON.

BUT WE MADE SURE WHENEVER WE WERE MAKING THESE CHANGES THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO BE CREATING THOSE NON-CONFORMING USES, THERE'S ACTUALLY A STATE LAW THAT REQUIRES THAT IF WE DID THAT, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A SPECIAL NOTIFICATION PROCESS. SO WE WERE VERY, VERY STRICT IN MAKING SURE THAT ANY CHANGES UNDER THIS KIND OF NOTICING WERE NOT GOING TO BE CHANGED THAT WAY. I WANTED TO BE SURE OF THAT, BECAUSE THAT ISSUE ONLY COMES UP WHEN THEY SELL THAT PROPERTY, AND THE NEW BUYER IS GOING TO REQUIRE THEM TO ACHIEVE SOMETHING THAT THEY ALREADY HAD.

AND SO YOU'VE ANSWERED MY QUESTION IN CONJUNCTION WITH ALAN. SO THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH. QUESTION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE ENTERTAIN A MOTION I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.

WHO IS THE SECOND? COUNCILMAN PHILLIPS. THANK. MOTION PASSES. ITEM 250016 RP

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Variance to a Replat for Kostial Addition, Located at 815 North Kentucky Street]

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WHAT ARE THE SIZES OF EACH OF THESE LOTS AND HOW MANY ARE THEY WITH THE VARIANCES GOING TO ALLOW ON THIS PLAN. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DETERMINED IN THE LAST THE LAST TIME THEY WERE BEFORE COUNCIL FOR THAT, FOR THE PLAT OF THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION HERE. SO THIS THIS VARIANCE IS GOING TO CHANGE ANY OF THAT. OR IS IT JUST CHANGING THE INGRESS COMING OFF KENTUCKY. YEAH. THE VARIANCE IS THAT SHE JUST DESCRIBED A MINUTE AGO.

WE'RE WE'RE JUST TO THE FRONT SETBACK AREA. I THINK IF YOU REMEMBER HOW SHE SHOWED THE CONFIGURATION WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THAN OTHERS, BUT IT DOESN'T CHANGE WHAT IS ALREADY ZONED NOW TO BE BUILT AS FAR AS SIZE OF UNITS AND NUMBER OF UNITS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. MISS, CAST YOUR VOTES. MOTION PASSES. ITEM 2400182.

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to Allow Multi-Family Residential Uses and Modify the Development Standards, Located on the South Side of Laud Howell Parkway and Located on the Northeast and Northwest Intersections of Laud Howell Parkway and Trinity Falls Parkway, and Accompanying Ordinance]

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THAT'S GOING TO BE PROTECTED FOR RESTAURANTS. ANY TYPE OF STANDARD COMMERCIAL THAT WE WOULD TYPICALLY SEE. AND SO IN THAT LOCATION THEY ARE GOING TO BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF A 475 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. AND THEN IT'LL BE THE C2 COMMERCIAL THAT THEY WILL BE MIMICKING FROM THE UDC FOR THE COMMERCIAL USES, TRACT FOUR GETS A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT MORE INTERESTING. SO THE HATCHING AGAIN IS ONLY GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL USES. MULTIFAMILY CANNOT BE BUILT IN THOSE LOCATIONS. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO PROTECT OUR COMMERCIAL FRONTAGES. AND YOU ALSO SEE THAT THE NEW US HIGHWAY 380 BYPASS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE CUTTING THROUGH A PORTION OF THIS. SO THIS TRACT WILL HAVE 380 LOT HOWELL AND TRINITY FALLS FRONTAGE ALONG IT. SO WE WANTED TO PAY CLOSE MIND TO THAT KIND OF COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE AS WELL. THAT LOCATION IS ONLY GOING TO HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 775 RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON TRACT FOUR. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS WHEN IT COMES TO SETBACKS, BILL TO AMENITIES, AND IT'S GOING TO BE APPROXIMATELY 4 TO 6 STORIES IN HEIGHT FOR THE MULTIFAMILY IN THAT LOCATION. ADDITIONALLY, THANK YOU JAKE.

THIS IS A BETTER DEPICTION OF THE PROPOSED REGULATING PLAN, WITH THE YELLOW BEING FULLY COMMERCIAL AND THE BLUE BEING THE ALLOWANCE FOR COMMERCIAL AND URBAN MULTIFAMILY ALLOWANCES, THEY CAN BUILD COMMERCIAL WITHIN THE BLUE. THEY CANNOT BUILD ANY MULTIFAMILY WITHIN THE YELLOW.

WITH THAT IN MIND, STAFF HAS CRITICALLY REVIEWED IT. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED FOR THE PROPOSED MIXED USE AT THIS LOCATION WITH THE PROTECTION OF THE COMMERCIAL LOCATIONS, AND WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS ZONING REQUEST, AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE. CAITLIN, WHAT WHAT CURRENTLY CAN THEY DO? CURRENTLY, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO COMMERCIAL USES ON THIS TRACT. THERE ARE NO MULTIFAMILY ALLOWANCES PERMITTED. AND STAFF'S EXCITEMENT ABOUT IT SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE RESIDENTIAL IS WHAT. SO STAFF IS LOOKING AT IT FROM THE MIXED USE OF HAVING THE RESIDENTIAL BEING A COMPLIMENTARY FOR THE COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARE LOCATED THERE TO CREATE A PLACE TYPE AND A DESTINATION. BEING THAT IT'S A PD, ARE THERE. WELL, I KNOW, I KNOW THE ANSWER. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE AT THIS OR AT A LATER DATE. WILL COUNCIL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO? BUT BEING A PD, WE CAN PUT IN ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES AND RESTRICTIONS WHICH WE CANNOT DO CURRENTLY. CORRECT. IT WAS NOT A PD SO THEY COULD BUILD, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING MATERIAL WISE. IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE PD THAT IS GOVERNING WHAT THEY CAN DO ARCHITECTURALLY WITH THIS REQUEST. SO ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS FOR BOTH THE MULTIFAMILY THEY DO HAVE IT NOTED THAT THEY'RE MEETING THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS THAT ARE SET FORTH WITHIN OUR UDC. THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT. YES. SO ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS NOW OUTSIDE OF PD, WE CAN'T REGULATE ANY MATERIAL BUILDING MATERIAL ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. CORRECT. SO I'M ASKING BEING AT PD THOUGH OF COURSE WE CAN. WE COULD WORK THAT INTO. YES, THEY ARE ADDING IN THAT ADDITIONAL COMPONENT TO MAKE SURE THAT HAVE THOSE ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS. YES. SO THEY WOULD BE FOLLOWING OUR WHEN WE COULD REGULATE 50% MASONRY THAT TYPE OF THING. CORRECT? YES. THANK YOU. I ALSO HAVE QUESTIONS I DO ON THE SLIDE THAT I GUESS WHATEVER YOUNG PEOPLE CALL THIS A POWERPOINT, YOU'VE SHOWN ME FULLY COMMERCIAL ON THE TWO LOWER AREAS THAT ARE IN YELLOW, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. AND SO WHAT ABOUT THE TWO ACROSS THE STREET, TRACK ONE AND TRACK TWO. TRACK ONE AND TRACK TWO ARE FULLY COMMERCIAL. SO TRACK ONE IS GOING TO BE OUR TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY. TRACK TWO IS GOING TO BE THE BROWNSTONES. OKAY. BROWNSTONE FOR IS CONJOINED TOWNHOMES. THEY WILL LOOK LIKE TOWNHOMES, BUT THEY WILL BE FOR RENT. ALL RIGHT. SO TRACK TWO IS COMPLETELY TOWNHOMES, CORRECT? YES. ALL RIGHT. AND TRACK ONE YOU SAY IS COMMERCIAL. IS THAT TRACK ONE IS MULTIFAMILY ONE AND TWO ARE COMPLETELY MULTIFAMILY. THREE AND FOUR ARE THE BLEND. SO THE ONLY COMMERCIAL THAT WE'RE GETTING ARE THE TWO YELLOW AREAS. EVERYTHING ELSE IS SOME

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AND SO I MEAN I LOOK AT DEVELOPMENTS, THERE'S ONE SOUTH OF US WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF COMMERCIAL BUT NOT ENOUGH RESIDENTIAL TO SUPPORT IT. AND THEY REALLY STRUGGLE TO KEEP THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, SUCCESSFUL FINANCIALLY. SO YOU SEE A LOT OF THOSE STORES JUST CLOSE AND OPEN AND CLOSE AND OPEN, WHEREAS YOU HAVE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS WEST OF US WHERE YOU GET A DENSE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL TO REALLY SUPPORT THE COMMERCIAL AND THE RETAIL THERE. SO THIS TO ME MAKES SENSE IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT WE GET GREAT RETAIL THAT COMES TO THE AREA, BUT ALSO THAT IT IS FINANCIALLY FINANCIALLY SUCCESSFUL LONG TERM. SO I APPRECIATE THIS. THANK YOU.

YEAH. ALSO, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT I THINK IN DON BLACKWOOD'S PROPERTY, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THIS IS ALL COMMERCIAL. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HAPPEN HERE. AND TO YOUR POINT, THE RESIDENTIAL SUPPORTS THAT COMMERCIAL. HOW WAS WHAT WAS THE VOTE IN PNC OUT OF CURIOSITY? THE VOTE AT PNC, IT WAS 7070. YEAH, I DID WANT TO NOTE. I'M SO SORRY. I MEANT TO NOTE IT EARLIER ON THIS SLIDE.

THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY WORKED WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE GETTING THE COMMERCIAL AHEAD OF TIME. AND SO THERE'S ACTUALLY REQUIRED TRIGGERS WITH THE UNLOCKING OF THOSE MULTIFAMILY UNITS. SO FOR TRACK THREE, THEY'LL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE 20,000FT■!S UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN UNDER TRACT FOUR IT WILL BE 40,000 OF COMMERCIAL BEFORE THE MULTIFAMILY STARTS TO BE UNLOCKED. SO GREAT IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF RESIDENCES THAT ARE ALLOWABLE ON ALL FOUR TRACKS. IF YOU DO IT BASED OFF OF THE ACREAGE, IT COMES OUT TO 1756.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THAT I HATE MULTIFAMILY. IT'S JUST I HATE STEALING THE AMERICAN DREAM FROM OUR YOUNGER GENERATIONS. SO PLEASE DO NOT TAKE MY VOTE AGAINST THIS PROJECT. IS SOMETHING AGAINST THE GOOD WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING, RIGHT? NO, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. IT IS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTING THAT TRACK TWO COULDN'T HAVE BEEN FOR A FOR SALE PRODUCT. YOU KNOW, GIVEN THAT IT'S GOING TO BE BROWNSTONES ANYWAY. BUT THE RENTAL COMMUNITY IS KIND OF GROWING IN THIS IN MCKINNEY. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SLOW IT DOWN. YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE RENT, THE RENTAL HOMES AND THE RENTAL TOWNHOMES. BUT I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, MISS, GIVEN THE AREA, THE VACANCY OF THE AREA UP THERE TO HAVE SOME SOME MORE FOR SALE PROPERTY FOR YOUNGER FAMILIES THAT, YOU KNOW, COULDN'T AFFORD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AT THIS TIME. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, OVERALL THE PROJECT LOOKS GREAT. YEAH, FOR THE RECORD, I LOVE THE IDEA OF FOR SALE PRODUCT FOR OUR YOUNG KIDS, BUT AN AVERAGE PRICE OF ALMOST 600,000, THAT SEEMS TO BE A HARD THING TO DELIVER IN TODAY'S MARKET. YOU KNOW, JUST AS A SIDE NOTE, THERE'S A BILL THAT'S GAINING TRACTION RIGHT NOW DOWN IN AUSTIN THAT WOULD, IF IT PASSES, WOULD ALLOW MULTIFAMILY TO BE BUILT ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, PERIOD. SO RIGHT NOW, I THINK IN TERMS OF ALSO TO SOME EXTENT PLAYING DEFENSE, WE HAVE A PD HERE, WHICH WE CAN WE'RE ABLE TO BUILD IN ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS THAT OUTSIDE OF PD, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ABILITY TO REGULATE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. AND IF THIS LAW PASSES, WHICH AGAIN HAS A LOT OF TRACTION, COMMERCIAL ZONED PROPERTY, MULTIFAMILY COULD BE BUILT BY. RIGHT. SO WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE HEARING THIS. IT WOULD BE BUILT AND IT WOULD BE BUILT WITHOUT IT BEING IN A PD, WHICH WOULD ALSO ELIMINATE OUR ONE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY AFTER HB 20, 40, 24, 39, TO GOVERN THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS IN THIS CASE, HAVE MASONRY AND WHATNOT THAT WE GENERALLY MAY NOT GET NOW. SO AND MR. MAYOR, I'M SURE THE APPLICANT IS CHOMPING AT THE BIT TO COME UP HERE, BUT I WAS JUST

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WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY, MAYBE THESE ARE SOME SITES THAT COME TO MIND AT MAJOR INTERSECTIONS OF HIGHWAYS. SOME OF THESE CONCEPTS MAKE GREAT SENSE, PULLING THE DENSITY CLOSER TO THE HIGHWAYS, STEPPING THAT BACK A BIT AS YOU GET AWAY, WE CAN LEARN A LOT OF REALLY VALUABLE LESSONS ABOUT THESE SUCCESSES. WE ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE UPON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN LEARNED AT SITES LIKE THIS. HIGHER LEVEL. WE'RE SEEKING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT THAT DIVIDES THE SITE INTO FOUR TRACKS. THOSE FOUR TRACKS ARE FORMED BY THE TWO MAJOR THOROUGHFARES THAT WILL BISECT IT, JUST TO KIND OF WALK YOU AROUND IT CLOCKWISE. TRACK ONE. IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT A TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY TRACK THREE THIS IS WHAT I WOULD SAY WE SEE AS THE MORE COMMUNITY SERVING RETAIL OPPORTUNITY. WE ANTICIPATE A GROCER HERE, POTENTIALLY SOME URBAN MULTIFAMILY WITH IT AND SOME MORE TRADITIONAL RETAIL. TRACK TWO IS THE TOWNHOME CONCEPT THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND TRACK FOUR IS REALLY WHERE THE MAGIC HAPPENS. IT'S THE LARGEST TRACT. IT'S THE MOST PROMINENT TRACT.

THAT IS NO MISTAKE. THE BUILD TO SUIT OFFICE OPPORTUNITY THAT'S PRESENTED UP ALONG THE FRONTAGE THAT YOU SEE THERE, THE STRUCTURED PARKING HOTEL, THE CORE RETAIL HERE CENTERED ON AN OPEN SPACE THAT SORT OF FUNCTIONS LIKE THE LIVING ROOM OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT. AND YOU'LL SEE SOME RENDERINGS OF THAT AND THEN SOME URBAN MULTIFAMILY. FROM A PHASING PERSPECTIVE, THE FIRST PHASE OF A PROJECT OF THIS SCALE IS UNEXCITING. IT IS INFRASTRUCTURE, AND IT'S A LOT OF IT. IT'S ROADS, IT'S WATER, IT'S SEWER. THERE'S SOME FLOODPLAIN RECLAMATION. OUR TEAM IS AT WORK GETTING READY TO SUBMIT THOSE INITIAL DRAWINGS AS SOON AS NEXT MONTH TO YOUR STAFF. AND THAT WILL BE THE FIRST PHASE HERE IS TO READY ALL OF THESE TRACKS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. THEN WE SEE TRACK ONE AND TRACK THREE COMING ALONG FIRST. WE ALREADY HAVE SUBSTANTIAL INTEREST FROM GROCERS, AND THE FEEDBACK THEY'VE GIVEN US IS ONCE WE SEE THAT MOMENTUM COMING WITH RESPECT TO THE DENSITY, WE'RE READY. THIS IS A GREAT SITE TO BUILD ON. THIS OPPORTUNITY WILL BE MARKETED FROM DAY ONE, AND AS SOON AS THAT FISH IS ON THE HOOK, IT COULD DRIVE EVERYTHING ELSE. BUT WE KNOW TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED, THIS IS WHAT OFFICE ISN'T DEAD. DON'T MISREAD THE HEADLINES, BUT THE TYPE OF OFFICE BEING SOUGHT TODAY IS DIFFERENT. THE ABILITY TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN TALENT IN AN INTEGRATED MIXED USE SETTING, ALONG WITH A HIGHLY DESIRABLE CITY IN ITS OWN RIGHT, WE THINK MAKES THIS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT OFFICE PIECE. AND THEN NOT TO BE OVERLOOKED. THE IMPORTANCE OF INTEGRATING OPEN SPACES THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT YOU'LL SEE DIFFERENT TYPES.

EIGHT IS REALLY THE BIG ONE THAT YOU'LL SEE THE RENDERINGS OF. SOME OF THESE MAY FEEL MORE LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS. SOME OF THESE ARE JUST ENHANCED URBAN STREETSCAPES THAT YOU CAN EASILY GET A BIKE DOWN OR BIKE PARK A BIKE ON. BUT THEY'RE ALL INTEGRATED AND THEY'RE ALL CONNECTED BY AN INTERNAL TRAIL SYSTEM, AS WELL AS THE OVERALL EXTERNAL TRAIL SYSTEM OUTSIDE THE SITE OF THE CITY. AND WE THINK WHEN YOU PUT ALL THIS TOGETHER, I WILL LET ALEX COME UP AND SHOW YOU THE EXCITING RENDERINGS AND DELIVER THE VISION FROM THE DEVELOPER PERSPECTIVE, BUT HOPEFULLY THAT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF IT. ALEX BAZE, 1280 EAST 11TH STREET.

THANK YOU TOMMY. THANK YOU TO COUNCIL. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS PROJECT TO EVERYBODY TONIGHT. AND THANK YOU TO STAFF AS WELL FOR ALL THE PATIENCE AND TIME AND EFFORT. I'M SORRY. WHAT WAS YOUR ADDRESS? 1280 EAST 11TH STREET IN DALLAS, TEXAS. THANK

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THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SCALE HERE. AND AS WE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, THERE'S SO MUCH GROWTH GOING NORTH ON TRINITY FALLS. WITHIN THE TRINITY FALLS DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A TON OF GROWTH COMING TO THE IMMEDIATE WEST WITH THE HONEY CREEK DEVELOPMENT. SO HOW DO WE CREATE THIS SCALE AT THIS SUPER PROMINENT HIGHWAY INTERSECTION AND THEN APPROPRIATELY TRANSITION THAT SCALE INTO THE LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE POPPING UP AROUND THIS SITE, AND ALSO CREATE AN AMENITY, RIGHT, FOR ALL OF THAT HIGH DENSITY, THAT LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL THAT'S GOING TO BE BORDERING THE SITE.

AND ULTIMATELY, THAT'S HOW WE LANDED AT THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU SEE TODAY. SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, JUST KIND OF WORKING FROM THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN OUT TO THE LEFT, YOU SEE THESE BIG SIX STORY OFFICE BUILDINGS. THESE OFFICE BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO BE 80 PLUS FEET TALL. THERE'S GOING TO BE EXCELLENT SIGNAGE AND VISIBILITY OPPORTUNITIES. THEY ARE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO A 900 SPACE STRUCTURED PARKING GARAGE WHERE ALL TOGETHER, THAT OFFICE OPPORTUNITY WILL BOAST FOUR PER THOUSAND PARKING. AND IN MY OPINION, WITH THIS KIND OF FRONTAGE AND VISIBILITY, THE STRUCTURED PARKING, YOU CAN SEE THE TWO POCKET PARKS ADJACENT TO THE OFFICE BUILDING. THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST CORPORATE CAMPUS OPPORTUNITIES, I THINK, IN ALL OF DFW. AND WE'LL GET INTO SOME MORE DETAILED RENDERINGS OF WHAT THOSE OFFICE BUILDINGS LOOK LIKE HERE SHORTLY. JUST AGAIN, STAYING ON TRACK FOR HERE. THE HOTEL IS IN KIND OF THE BOTTOM PORTION OF THE PLAN. YOU'RE HEARING. HOTEL IS AND HOSPITALITY IS A REALLY IMPORTANT AMENITY, I THINK, TO ATTRACTING AN OFFICE, A LARGE OFFICE, CAMPUS VISITORS, EMPLOYEES. SO HAVING THAT ABILITY TO DO A HOTEL, I THINK DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE OFFICE IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. AND THEN WORKING OUTWARD IS THE IS THE URBAN RETAIL CORE. YOU'LL SEE TWO TYPES OF RETAIL ON THIS PLAN. ONE IS THE GROCERY ANCHORED RETAIL ON THE NORTH SIDE ON TRACK THREE. BUT ON TRACK FOUR, WE REALLY WANTED TO PROVIDE SOMETHING MORE URBAN.

THAT'S A BENEFIT TO THE OFFICE, THAT'S A BENEFIT TO THE RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S GOING TO BE A BENEFIT TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. AND WE'LL GET INTO SOME MORE PICTURES OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE JUMPING IN NOW. I THINK YOU CAN REALLY SEE IT. SO WHAT WE WERE GOING FOR HERE IS THIS ABOUT 30,000FT■!S OF OPN SPACE THAT YOU'LL SEE AT THE CENTER. YOU'LL NOTICE A LOT OF PATIOS. YOU'LL NOTICE A LOT OF OPEN SPACE FOR SITTING STAYING. AND YOU'LL NOTICE A LOT OF PERMEABILITY, THE ABILITY TO COME IN AND OUT OF THIS SITE. SO YOU COULD GET SOMEONE FROM THE OFFICE BUILDING WALKING UP FOR LUNCH WITH THE 900 STALL PARKING GARAGE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT.

PEOPLE FROM ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS CAN COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, COME AND STAY HERE. SO WE WERE REALLY EXCITED, I THINK, TO PUT THIS TOGETHER AND BRING THIS TYPE OF RETAIL TO THIS TYPE OF LOCATION. THE ONLY THING I WANT TO CALL OUT ABOUT THIS DESIGN TOO, IS THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL HERE. THIS SERVES TWO PURPOSES. SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE PRIOR SCREEN ALL THE PARKING GARAGES ARE SET UP AGAINST THE HIGHWAY. THIS IS ALL DESIGNED AGAIN TO INSULATE ALL OF THE ACTIVITY HERE FROM THE HIGHWAY NOISE. BUT WHAT THIS RESIDENTIAL DOES IS ALSO CREATE A REALLY NICE URBAN FEEL, INSULATE THIS POCKET PARK AND FEEL LIKE A TRUE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE'VE PROGRAMED A WHOLE HOST OF DIFFERENT DESIGNS HERE. THE INTENT IS TO MAKE THIS DIFFERENT. WE THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, RETAILERS ARE GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. THIS IS GOING TO BE YOUR MORE BOUTIQUE F AND B DRIVEN TYPE OF RETAIL. AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED, I THINK, TO BRING THIS STAPLE THE PROJECT, JUST IN TERMS TO SPEAK TO THE PHASING AS WELL. SO WE ARE REQUIRED HERE ON THIS TRACK TO BUILD 40,000FT OF RETAIL ALONG WITH ANY RESIDENTIAL. SO AS I ENVISION BUILDING THIS PROJECT OUT, THE FIRST UNIT, THE FIRST UNITS OF APARTMENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE BUILT WITH THIS RESIDENTIAL, WHICH WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE DONE IN THE PAST AND HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL. AND REALLY, I THINK THE TWO ARE VERY SYNERGISTIC AND FEED OFF OF EACH OTHER. SO JUST A COUPLE MORE EXAMPLES HERE. AGAIN, JUST FOCUSING ON THIS PERMEABILITY,

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WE WANTED THIS TO FEEL, YOU KNOW, MORE LIKE A WALKABLE URBAN COMMUNITY, LESS LIKE APARTMENTS JUST DROPPED INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD. AND WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO CURATE THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE DESIGN HERE. I WANT TO GET DOWN TO THE OFFICE HERE BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A REALLY DIFFERENTIATED PRODUCT. ULTIMATELY, I THINK, AS YOU KNOW, AS STAFF MENTIONED HERE, WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO FLEX UP OUR COMMERCIAL SPACES. SO IN THE EVENT WE DO GET A LARGER USER, WE CAN PROGRAM THIS BIGGER 350,000FT■!S SPREAD ACROSS TWO BUILDINGS, SIX STORIES. THIS FELT LIKE A VERY ACHIEVABLE PROGRAM HERE. AND WE TRY TO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, MAKE THIS AS URBAN AS POSSIBLE. YOU DON'T SEE A MASSIVE PARKING FIELD OUT IN FRONT OF THESE OFFICE BUILDINGS.

THIS IS VERY URBAN, YOU KNOW, IN DEMAND OFFICE THAT YOU'RE SEEING TODAY. AND THEN FINALLY, JUST TO TALK ABOUT THE BROWNSTONES. SO WE SPENT A TON OF TIME COMING THROUGH AND COMING UP WITH ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR WHAT THESE BROWNSTONES ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE. THE GOAL WAS TO MAKE THIS FEEL LIKE A MINI NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? THE GOAL IS FOR THIS TO BE A PLACE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LIVE IN MCKINNEY, BUT DON'T YET HAVE THE MONEY FOR A DOWN PAYMENT YET. WE TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABILITY. THEY WANT MORE OF A SINGLE FAMILY TYPE OF LIFESTYLE. THEY WANT BIG SIDEWALKS. THEY WANT A PARK TO TAKE THEIR KIDS. WE VIEW THIS PRODUCT AS EXACTLY THAT. EACH UNIT WILL HAVE A TWO CAR GARAGE, RIGHT? FOR TWO WORKING PARENTS. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ON THE STREETSCAPE ITSELF, THIS LOOKS MUCH MORE AKIN, I THINK, TO WHAT YOU WOULD SEE, YOU KNOW, IN A TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD THAN WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IN ANY TYPE OF MULTIFAMILY.

SO IT'S A MIX OF TWO AND THREE STORY PRODUCT. WE'VE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO MAKING SURE THESE ARE DESIGNED APPROPRIATELY, AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE WAY THIS CAME OUT HERE. SO I APPRECIATE YOU, EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL HEARING ME OUT ON THE DESIGN INTENT HERE.

HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERED SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS. AND TOMMY AND I ARE HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS AS WELL AS WELL PRESENTED. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS. YES, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. WHEN IS THE COMMERCIAL PROJECTS GOING TO BEGIN TIMEWISE? SURE. SO AS TOMMY MENTIONED. SO FIRST FIRST START OF THE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE HAVE TO EXTEND TRINITY FALLS. WE'LL BE EXTENDING LOT HOWELL. WE HAVE TO BUILD. SORRY. DID YOU HEAR MY QUESTION? I ASKED YOU WHEN IS THE COMMERCIAL GOING TO BEGIN? YEAH. SO NO SET TIME FRAME OKAY. WE'LL BE ACTIVELY MARKETING FOR COMMERCIAL USERS TO START. BUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING TO NEED TO COME FIRST. WHAT BUSINESSES ARE CURRENTLY COMMITTED TO THIS PROJECT AND TO LEASE OR BUILD SPACE IN YOUR COMMERCIAL AREAS? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY COMMITTED USERS YET. SET. WHAT ABOUT A HOTEL? WE DO NOT HAVE A COMMITTED HOTEL YET. OKAY, SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT YOU WANT TO BUILD NEARLY 2000 APARTMENTS ON THE CHANCE THAT SOMEBODY'S GOING TO WANT TO BUILD COMMERCIAL OUT THERE? SO FIRST I WOULD POINT TO THE COMMERCIAL RESTRICTIONS. SO ALL OF OUR HIGHER DENSITY MULTIFAMILY IS TIED TO BUILDING COMMERCIAL AS WELL. THE SECOND THING I WOULD SAY IS WE'RE JUST EXTREMELY EARLY IN THE PROJECT, THE ZONING AND MAKING SURE WE GOT THE ZONING RIGHT WAS REALLY OUR OUR FIRST INTENT. AND THAT WAS THE PLACE. WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO START CONSTRUCTION ON THE APARTMENTS? THERE'S NO SET TIME FRAME. ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT BEFORE THE COMMERCIAL? AGAIN, THERE'S NO SET START DATE ON ON THE APARTMENTS OR THE COMMERCIAL YET. WHAT'S YOUR TIMING OF THE CONDOMINIUMS, YOUR TOWNHOMES? WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO START ON THOSE? WE DON'T HAVE A SET TIME FRAME. ALL RIGHT. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION ON THIS PROJECT, DID I MISS HERE? I THOUGHT THAT THE COMMERCIAL HAD TO BE DEVELOPED AND THAT WAS THE TRIGGER FOR THE MULTIFAMILY. AM I MISSING THAT 40,000FT I BELIEVE HAS TO BE BUILT, I THINK, ON THOSE TWO TRACKS. BUT ON THE TWO TRACKS TO THE WEST, I DON'T THINK THAT COMES INTO PLAY. IS THAT RIGHT? 40,000. SO IT'S I'LL GO BACK FOR YOU. IT MAY BE EASIER ON THE ONE THAT HAS THEM LABELED. SO THOSE RESTRICTIONS ARE ON TRACK THREE AND TRACK FOUR. SO ON TRACK THREE WE'VE GOT TO HAVE 20,000 MINIMUM COMMERCIAL BEFORE ANY MULTIFAMILY. IN TRACK FOUR IT'S ACTUALLY GRADUATED. IT GOES FROM 20 TO 40 TO 60. SO 20,000 IS NEEDED BEFORE WE CAN HAVE ANY MULTIFAMILY 40,000 UNLOCK MORE, 60,000 TO UNLOCK THE FULL AMOUNT ON TRACKS ONE AND TWO. THOSE ARE ENTIRELY RESIDENTIAL. THEY DO NOT HAVE A COMMERCIAL PREREQUISITE REQUIREMENT. HOW LARGE IS YOUR NORMAL GROCER? THAT'S. WELL, THERE'S TWO TYPES. SO YOU'VE LOOKED AT BOTH MORE THAN TWO. YEAH. THE 60,000 OR THE 100 RIGHT. SO WHAT'S LAID OUT ON THE PLAN CURRENTLY IS A 67,000 FOOT FOOTPRINT. SO A GROCER THAT WOULD FIT IN THAT CATEGORY WOULD BE LIKE A TOM THUMB. IF WE GET A LARGER FOOTPRINT USER LIKE A KROGER, YOU KNOW, KROGER WOULD BE ABOUT 120,000FT■!S. THEY WOULD TAKE UP

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YEAH. YEAH. WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP AND YOU'RE IN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL AND RESTAURANT WHATNOT. THE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DENSITY NEEDS TO BE THERE.

ANYONE THAT'S BEEN IN THE DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRY UNDERSTANDS THAT THAT THAT THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO DRIVE THE SUCCESS OR THE FAILURE OF YOUR RETAIL. THE LAST THING YOU WOULD WANT TO DO IS, OF COURSE, GO TRY TO BUILD ALL OF YOUR RETAIL AND HOPE THAT IT COMES ON THE PROMISE THAT

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YOU THINK YOU KNOW HOW MUCH ARE QUAY. HOW MUCH? A QUAY ON AN APARTMENT TODAY ROUGHLY. OH, YEAH. NO, I MEAN, TOMMY AND I ARE TALKING THROUGH IT. I MEAN, THE, THE JUST THE AD VALOREM VALUE OF THE LAND ITSELF. ONCE WE GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN, I WOULD SAY IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, 150 TO 200 MILLION, I THINK MINIMUM AND PER QUAY IN A ROOM THESE DAYS IS OH PER UNIT RESIDENTIAL LAND VALUES LIKE, WELL, NORTH OF 35, $40,000. NO, I'M ASKING A QUESTION. I'M ASKING THE QUESTION HOW MUCH PER QUAY, PER APARTMENT? YOU KNOW THE VALUE. IN OTHER WORDS. OH, STABILIZED VALUE OH ONE 7170 OKAY. MORE THAN 200 300 300. REALLY? TODAY. 300. OKAY. WOW.

SO YOU'RE YEAH, YOU'RE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HALF $1 BILLION JUST IN THAT PRODUCT ALONE ON THIS 80 ODD ACRES. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS? THAT'S IN THE AUDIENCE. SEEING NONE ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. I WILL SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. OKAY. OKAY. MOVING ON TO OUR LAST ITEM. ITEM 240146Z. TO

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “BG” - General Business District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Located at 500 W University Drive, and Accompanying Ordinance]

ADDITIONALLY, THEY ARE ALSO ASKING FOR A REDUCTION FROM OUR STANDARD STREET BUFFER REQUIREMENTS FOR LANDSCAPING. SO THE STANDARD BUFFER IS GOING TO BE 20FT. AND THEN THEY ARE

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ADDITIONALLY, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT ANY FUEL PUMPS ARE REQUIRED TO BE 250FT AWAY FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL USES. THIS IS ACTUALLY A LEGACY REQUIREMENT FROM OUR ORIGINAL 146 ZONING ORDINANCES THAT WE ACTUALLY DID TAKE WITH US INTO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE IN 2022. IT WAS A ITEM THAT WE DID FEEL WAS STILL IMPORTANT, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROTECTING RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT USES. AND SO THAT 250FT, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IN PURPLE, ALL OF THOSE ARE RESIDENTIAL USES THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED BY 250FT OF FUEL STATION. THAT'S THE END. JUST TO REITERATE, STAFF IS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROPOSED REZONE DUE TO THE CHANGING OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND THE CONCERN ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY FROM BOTH THE BUFFER AS WELL AS THE FUEL PUMP STATION. AS SUCH, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU DENY THE REQUEST AND I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. WHAT IS THE VOTE ON THIS IN PNC? THANK YOU. IT WAS FOUR THREE, I BELIEVE. YES. FOUR IN FAVOR OR IN FAVOR? YES. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CAITLIN? CAITLIN ON THE 250FT. IS THAT STRAIGHT LINE FROM THE PUMP TO. TO WHAT, A PROPERTY LINE OR.

CORRECT. YES. MR. STRICKLAND, I'M LOOKING AT THIS PETITION THAT YOU HANDED TO ME, AND I'M SEEING A LOT OF ADDRESSES ON INWOOD AND WYSONG DRIVE. AND HAVE YOU OR STAFF DONE AN ANALYSIS OF THESE ADDRESSES THAT ARE LISTED WITH THE NAMES? I BELIEVE YOU SAID THERE WERE 67 WHO SIGNED THIS PETITION AGAINST IT. THE PROXIMITY OF THEIR ADDRESSES TO THIS PROJECT. SO WE RECEIVED THIS. I'M JUST ASKING IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE A FULL ANALYSIS OF THE ALL OF THE ADDRESSES. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO MAKE SURE TO SEE IF IT QUALIFIED UNDER THE PROTEST PETITION FOR Y'ALL. WE DID NOTE THAT QUITE A FEW ARE FROM ADDRESSES THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT FARTHER AWAY, BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE A FULL ANALYSIS OF THEIR LOCATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WITH DRIVERS, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WAY BACK, IT'S THE LAST RESIDENTIAL STREET THERE I SEE.

YEAH. OKAY. IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, IS THE APPLICANT HERE. YES. NOT FOR THE. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JEFF TUCKER WITH MURPHY USA. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND ABOUT MURPHY WITH YOU ALL. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR ENGINEER AS WELL AS LANDLORD HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. WE ARE A GAS STATION CONVENIENCE STORE BASED IN EL DORADO, ARKANSAS. WE OPERATE ABOUT 1700 LOCATIONS ACROSS 27 STATES. WE ARE CORPORATELY OWNED AND OPERATED, SO WE DO FEEL LIKE WE SET A HIGHER STANDARD OF OPERATION THAN MOST OF THE INDEPENDENT FUEL STATIONS THAT ARE OPERATED AROUND THE COUNTRY. WE DO PROVIDE EXTENSIVE EMPLOYEE TRAINING FOR THE SALES OF AGE RESTRICTED PRODUCTS, AS WELL AS FOR THE SALE OF FUEL AND TRAINING FOR SAFETY OF THE SALE OF THAT FUEL. WE DO HAVE A MULTIPLE CAMERA SETUP, BOTH INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR, IN ALL OUR STORES TO ACCOUNT FOR ADDITIONAL SAFETY REQUIREMENTS, AND WE DO COMPLY AND MEET WITH ALL STATE AND FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS FOR COMPLIANCE WITHIN ENVIRONMENTAL. AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE MORE EXTENSIVE INTERNAL RULES THAT THAT WE FOLLOW IN ORDER TO MEET THOSE STANDARDS. SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU. I'LL STAY ON FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, BUT I WILL ALSO TURN IT OVER TO OUR ENGINEERS. JM, I THINK WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR Y'ALL. THANKS. ALAN PEREZ 1101 CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY SOUTH ALLEN, TEXAS. APPRECIATE THE

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YEP. ALL RIGHT. EXCELLENT. SO A COUPLE OF STAFF, HERE'S OUR SITE PLAN. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, AS I WAS MENTIONING EARLIER, THERE'S OUR FIRE LANE RUNNING THROUGH THE SITE. FIRE DEPARTMENT WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE COULD GET COMPLETE FIRE ACCESS FROM COLLEGE TO 380. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT NAVIGATES THE SITE APPROPRIATELY. WE'VE GOT SIX DISPENSERS ON THIS CANOPY AND THEN THE CROSS ACCESS TO THE RESTAURANT IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. SO WE'RE USING THE EXISTING ACCESS POINTS. WE'RE NOT CREATING NEW ACCESS POINTS FOR THIS PROPERTY, JUST USING THE EXISTING ACCESS POINTS THAT ARE OUT THERE. SO THAT'S BASICALLY IT. WE'VE GOT, I BELIEVE, 12 PARKING PLACES. I THINK THAT MEETS THE CODE. IT'S A 2800 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, SO IT'S NOT AS BIG AS MOST OF THE CIRCLE K'S AND 7-ELEVEN THAT YOU SEE. IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT HALF THE SIZE AS FAR AS BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE. AND THIS WAS THE RENDERING THAT I WAS REFERENCING. YOU CAN SEE IT'S GOT MASONRY FINISHES ALONG THE FRONT, BACK AND SIDES. AGAIN, THIS IS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS. WE'LL CERTAINLY WORK WITH STAFF TO ENSURE THAT WE GIVE THE CITY WHAT WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE ON THIS, THIS MONUMENT SIGN THAT WOULD BE

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RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE BACK. MURPHY'S CERTAINLY OPEN TO THE IDEA OF MASONRY WALL ALONG BACK FOR SCREENING. IT COULD BE MASONRY LIVING SCREEN. CERTAINLY WORK WITH STAFF WHATEVER THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE BACK THERE. THE THIS IS STAFF'S EXHIBIT FOR THE STREET BUFFER ENCROACHMENT. WE ARE ACTUALLY PROPOSING A FIVE FOOT ENCROACHMENT. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS OTHER EXHIBIT, THE ENCROACHMENT IS WHERE IT'S FIVE FEET IS ONLY ON THE FAR SOUTHEAST CORNER OF IT. WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED IN, I GUESS, PINK HERE, THE AREAS WHERE WE ARE ACHIEVING THE STANDARD 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE SETBACKS. SO IN SOME CASES WE'LL BE ABLE TO EXCEED 20FT FOR THE LANDSCAPE. SO IT'S ONLY THAT THAT 25 FOOT SEGMENT OF RADIUS RIGHT THERE. YEAH.

THERE'S AN ENCROACHMENT. WE YOU KNOW YOU'VE GOT TO GET TRAFFIC AROUND THE END OF THE CANOPY.

IT'S A PRETTY TIGHT SITE. BUT IT IS THAT THAT ONE AREA JUST THE SOUTHEAST CORNER WHERE WE'RE SEEKING THE EXCEPTION, I THINK IT'S GOT TO BE APPLIED TO THE WHOLE THING, PERHAPS, BUT TO SAY THAT IT'S FIVE FEET AROUND THE WHOLE THING WOULD BE A MISCHARACTERIZATION. MOST OF THE SITE WILL ACHIEVE THE 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER. WE WERE DISCUSSING EARLIER, THE. THIS IS KIND OF A CLUTTERED DRAWING. I APOLOGIZE, BUT WE WERE DISCUSSING THE DISPENSER PROXIMITY TO THE PROPERTY, THE PROPERTIES, THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES, THE ACTUALLY CALLED OUT 103FT, 103.5FT. BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY TO THE CURB LINE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF COLLEGE. THE DISPENSER. IF YOU MEASURE FROM THE DISPENSER TO THE CLOSEST PROPERTY LINE, IT'S 117FT TO THE CLOSEST PROPERTY LINE. EXCUSE ME. AND THEN THE NEXT PROPERTY LINE WOULD BE 120FT, AND ANOTHER ONE WOULD BE 140. AND WHERE ARE THOSE PROPERTIES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF COLLEGE? THEY TO THE NORTH. YEAH. WELL, THE ONES THAT I WAS INITIALLY SPEAKING TO WERE THE ONES ON THE EAST SIDE OF COLLEGE. SO THE 117FT IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF COLLEGE, 117FT TO THE PROPERTY LINE AT 1802 COLLEGE STREET. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN WE HAVE 120FT TO THE PROPERTY LINE AT 1804, AND THEN 140FT TO THE PROPERTY LINE AT 1806 COLLEGE STREET. NOW THAT'S FROM DISPENSER TO PROPERTY LINE.

AND THEN IT'S FURTHER TO THE STRUCTURES, THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE NORTH IS FROM AT 801.

WOODLEY IS 146FT FROM DISPENSER TO THE PROPERTY LINE. AND THEN AT 805, WOODLEY IS 126FT FROM THE DISPENSER TO THE PROPERTY LINE. SO IT IS A REQUEST FOR ENCROACHMENT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLEARLY ILLUSTRATE WHAT THE ACTUAL DISTANCES WERE FROM DISPENSERS TO PROPERTY LINES.

AND THERE ARE A FEW OTHER I KNOW THERE'S MORE THAN THIS, BUT I JUST WE JUST WENT AND GRABBED THREE INSTANCES. NORTHWEST CORNER OF LAKE FOREST, VIRGINIA. THERE'S AN EXISTING FUELING STATION THAT MEASURES 135 APPROXIMATELY AND 157 TO THE TO THE BUILDING, BUT 135 TO THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH IS ON PAR WITH WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF RANDY LEE AND VIRGINIA. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE DISPENSER, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 146FT TO THE PROPERTY LINE. AND ANOTHER GAS STATION LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF CHURCH STREET IN 380, WHERE IT'S JUST OVER 100FT FROM DISPENSER TO A PROPERTY LINE. SO THERE THERE ARE INSTANCES AND I JUST GRABBED THREE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THERE ARE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, BUT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY IT FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE. JUST WANTED TO FURTHER CHARACTERIZE THE SITE. IN ADDITION TO STAFF'S PRESENTATION. APPRECIATE THAT.

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AM I CORRECT ON THAT? SO THERE COULD BE A RESTAURANT NOW. JUST SO, IN OTHER WORDS. YEAH, IT'S NOT WE'RE NOT INTRODUCING SOMETHING NEW, BUT THE CURRENT ARCHITECTURAL CONTEMPLATION OF THIS GAS STATION DOES NOT HAVE ANY PREPARED FOODS. AGAIN, NO KITCHEN, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SCOTT WOODRUFF 2707. CARRIAGE TRAIL. SO I THINK THE ZONING TODAY GOES FROM BG MAPS OVER TO C2. SO C2 WE WOULD BE PERMITTED TO DO A RESTAURANT. WE COULD DO DRIVE THROUGH. THERE'S A LOT OF RETAIL OPTIONS THAT WE COULD DO HERE. BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S LOOKING AT A FUEL STATION WITH THE CONVENIENCE STORE. YEAH. THANKS FOR THE CLARITY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WOULDN'T PUT THE RESIDENTS IN A WORSE POSITION. YOU KNOW, BY ADDING THIS GAS STATION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES. I MAY HAVE SOME MORE AFTER COMMENTS. YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS OR DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YEAH, BECAUSE MINE AREN'T TECHNICAL REGARDING THE ENGINEER. SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. MR. MAYOR, MY NAME IS JIMMY ROGERS. MY WIFE AND I, KAREN, RESIDE AT 1012 INWOOD DRIVE, AND I'M HERE WITH SEVERAL OF OUR AREA NEIGHBORS ALONG INWOOD, WOODLEY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA TO STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS GAS STATION. NOT ONLY WILL IT INCREASE THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION IN THE AREA, WHICH IS ALREADY OVERWHELMING, IT WILL ALSO INCREASE THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC AS WELL AS PROVIDE ANOTHER PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO HANG OUT. LOITER PANHANDLE, IF YOU WILL. NOT TO MENTION THE TRYING TO GET THE FUEL STORAGE DELIVERY TRUCKS IN AND OUT OF THAT TIGHT CORNER. ALSO, AS YOU SAW FROM THE APPLICANT THE PLANNING AND ZONING WHEN IT WENT THROUGH THEIR BOARD, THEY HAD TO GRANT AT LEAST THREE VARIANCES

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ALSO, I'D LIKE TO MENTION THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THAT FIRST PAGE OF THAT DOCUMENT, THE PETITION, THE BOTTOM SIGNATURE ON THAT IS FROM THE OWNER OF THE SAN MIGUEL GRILL, WHICH IS JUST ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY. I SPOKE WITH THE OWNER ON FRIDAY, AND HE AND HIS EMPLOYEES ARE ALSO AGAINST THIS BECAUSE HE'S HE'S AWARE OF WHAT THE OTHER GAS STATIONS IN THE AREA BRING TO THE AREA AS FAR AS TRAFFIC AND SO FORTH. SO HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIM, AND HE WANTED ME TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION, THAT HE IS STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THE GAS STATION NEXT DOOR TO HIS RESTAURANT. OKAY.

AND MR. ROGERS AND ON THIS ONE ISSUE, I THINK I SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY ON THE COUNCIL. IT'S RARE, BUT I DO. DID ANYONE FROM THE APPLICANT'S OFFICE, MURPHY, OR ANYONE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT, COME AND VISIT WITH YOU OR WITH YOUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS? TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE? NO, THEY DID NOT. THE ONLY WAY I KNEW ABOUT THIS WAS I SAW THE PNC SIGN IN THE CORNER. WOULD YOU LIKE THAT OPPORTUNITY? NO. I'M JUST I JUST WANT TO STRONGLY OPPOSE IT AND HOPE THAT YOU'LL VOTE AGAINST IT. OKAY. MR. ROGERS, YOUR ADDRESS IS IN THE 1000 BLOCK. AND I'LL TELL YOU, I WAS SITTING UP HERE WHILE THESE GENTLEMEN WERE TALKING TO US, AND I WAS LOOKING AT GOOGLE MAPS TO GET THE ADDRESSES. AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WOODLEY IS THE STREET IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF THEIR PROPOSED SITE. AND THEN INWOOD IS THE NEXT STREET UP FROM THAT. AND IT APPEARED TO ME THAT THESE HOMES THAT ARE GREATLY AFFECTED BY THIS WITHIN THE 250 FOOT ZONE, WHICH IS A SAFETY REQUIREMENT, ARE ALL EITHER ON WOODLEY OR INWOOD. AND IN LOOKING AT THIS, I SAW THAT THERE WAS FOUR HOMES DIRECTLY ON INWOOD WITHIN THE 800 BLOCK THAT HAD SIGNED THIS PETITION. THERE WERE MORE ON, I'M SORRY, THE FOUR ON WOODLEY, THE FIRST STREET NORTH, AND THERE WERE MORE UPON INWOOD. AND I'M NOT SURE HOW FAR AWAY INWOOD IS, BUT I MAY BE ASKING THESE FOLKS IF THEY WOULD MIND IF WE TABLED THIS ITEM SO THEY CAN FURTHER VISIT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MAYBE ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS, AND GIVE ME SOME MORE SPECIFIC DATA ON HOW FAR AWAY THESE HOMES ARE.

SURE YOU CAN. WOULD THAT BE OKAY WITH YOU? IT WORKS FOR ME IF YOU WANT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. SURE. LISTEN, I APPRECIATE YOU HELPING ME OUT AND COMING OUT HERE THIS EVENING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. GENERALLY, ACTUALLY, IN PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE DON'T GO BACK AND FORTH. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS DAVID PICASSO AND I

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. SO, CHARLIE, ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT 400FT TO THE PROPERTY LINE OF A HOME THAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF INWOOD FROM THE PUMP. SO IT'S 400FT TO THE BACK SIDE. IN OTHER WORDS, THE BACKYARD PROPERTY LINE. THANK YOU. KEVIN, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. SORRY. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? YES. OKAY. TWO MORE IF YOU'LL COME UP YOU HOWEVER MANY THERE ARE. OKAY.

BUT COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. THERE WILL BE A TIMER UP. AND OF COURSE, YOU'LL HEAR THAT. I'LL BE VERY BRIEF. I JUST WANT TO TAG ON WHAT HE SAID. MY NAME IS GINA YODICE. I LIVE ON 1909 WEST WAY. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY. I ACTUALLY AM THAT LADY THAT SITS BY THE WINDOW AND WORKS ALL DAY. AND ONE OF MY PASSIONATE THINGS, AS MY NEIGHBOR WAS SAYING IS THE KIDS PLAY, THEY PLAY B.B, NOT B.B. GUNS, THOSE NERF GUNS, THEY'RE SCOOTERS. SOCCER. YOU CAN EVEN SEE FROM MY HOUSE IF I'M IN A CERTAIN ROOM DOWN WOODLEY. THEY'RE PLAYING BASKETBALL. THEY HAVE TWO HOOPS. THERE'S ABOUT. I WANT TO SAY, WHEN I CAME HERE TODAY, I COUNTED OUTSIDE PLAYING 20 KIDS AND OTHER NEIGHBORS JUST TALKING. RIGHT ON WOODLEY. BUT I'M ON WESTWAY, SO I SEE THEM COMING AROUND. THE TRAFFIC IS CRAZY. THEY SPEED PAST MY HOUSE ALL THE TIME. THE CARS. THERE'S THE OVERFLOW FROM 380, LITERALLY. THEY PARK ON WESTWAY AND THERE'S A HOUSE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF CARS, RIGHT? LIKE DIAGONALLY ACROSS FROM ME. SO

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WE'RE NOT ALWAYS OUT LATE AT NIGHT, SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE OUT AT 1 OR 2 IN THE MORNING.

SOMETIMES IT'S TEN, 1030. WE'VE SEEN PROSTITUTION, DRUGS AT THAT GAS STATION. AS MISTER ROGERS STATED, THERE ARE NINE GAS STATIONS FROM THE RACE TRACK ON 380 JUST NORTH EAST OF THROCKMORTON TO THE OTHER SIDE OF 75, AND 89 GAS STATIONS. THE SUNOCO STATION IS ONE BLOCK FROM THE PROPOSED MURPHY STATION. I WOULD BEG YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS AND PROTECT OUR LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE LOVE THAT WE HAVE FOR ONE ANOTHER, AND TO KEEP OUR NEIGHBORS SECURE. WE HAVE OTHER ISSUES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED FIRST. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ARE YOU GUYS READY FOR ME? ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO. MY NAME IS KIM RHODES, AND I

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THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELS? WOULD THAT ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I'LL SECOND. WE'LL DO THIS ONE VERBAL JUST AS CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. PERFECT. BECAUSE I HAVE A CLARIFYING POINT. OKAY. WHY DON'T YOU CLARIFY FIRST, TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT WHY IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WERE SO MANY RECENT GAS STATIONS. SO I WANTED TO APOLOGIZE. THE LEGACY GAS STATION WAS ACTUALLY BASED OFF OF THE DAYCARE. THANK YOU. WAS ACTUALLY BASED OFF OF THE DAYCARE DISTANCE. SO IN 2022, WE ACTUALLY CREATED THE 250 FOOT. THAT IS WHY YOU SEE SOME OF THE GAS STATIONS THAT ARE CREATED WITHIN THE PAST TEN YEARS, NOT HAVE THE 250 FOOT DISTANCE. THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT THAT IN 2022, CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY ENACTED. AND WITH THE BG ZONING THAT IS ON THE PROPERTY, IT CORRESPONDS WITH THE C-2. THEY WOULD BE PERMITTED TO HAVE A GAS STATION AT THAT LOCATION IF THEY WERE ABLE TO MEET THE DESIGN STANDARDS, AND THE 250 FOOT WITH CRITERIA. THAT WAS MY QUESTION TO YOU WAS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE GAS STATION IS ALREADY AN APPROVED USE TIER. IT IS AN APPROVED USE. SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF THEY DIDN'T BUILD, SOMEBODY ELSE CAME IN AND DESIGNED IT IN SUCH THAT THEY DIDN'T NEED THE DESIGN VARIANCES. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE HERE. CORRECT. THEY THE 250 FOOT IS A CRITERIA. SO THEY CAN COME BEFORE Y'ALL FOR AN SUP. THE REST OF IT ARE ARE TYPICAL DESIGN STANDARDS. AND WHAT ELSE BY RIGHT ON THIS

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BUT IT IS OUR TYPICAL LOCAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. SO I MEAN I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT THIS ISN'T A BINARY CHOICE BETWEEN WHAT IS CURRENTLY AND THIS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. IT'S WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED VERSUS WHAT IS THERE OR WHAT ARE THE USE MAY COME THAT MEETS THAT FITS WITHIN THAT ZONING. AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT HOMELESSNESS. I, I WOULD NOT BE ONE TO HAVE THOUGHT THAT A GAS STATION WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN AND OUT IS A HOMELESS MAGNET GENERALLY I WOULD THINK DORMANT OFFICE AND WHATNOT IS WHERE WE GENERALLY GET THE COMPLAINTS OF HOMELESSNESS AND WHATNOT. THAT'S JUST A ANECDOTAL OBSERVATION. APPLICANT. SCOTT, YOU HAVE SOME THINGS TO SAY, I THINK. YEAH. SO AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CHANGE THE EXHIBIT APPARENTLY TO NOT DO NOT SHE'S GOING TO SHE'S GOT IT.

THERE YOU GO, MR. MAYOR. MAY I ASK SCOTT A QUESTION BEFORE I GET STARTED? AND I WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND WHERE I AM ON THIS. IF I WERE THE APPLICANT LOOKING TO DEVELOP THIS PLACE, AND I HAD A 250 FOOT BUFFER, I WOULD GO TALK TO EVERYBODY WITHIN 250FT. AND WHAT I'M DISCOVERING ON MY OWN, AND DON'T TAKE THIS AS GIVEN, BUT MOST OF THE FOLKS WHO SPOKE HERE TONIGHT AND MOST OF THE FOLKS WHO SIGNED THIS PETITION. DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THIS PETITION? OKAY. I WILL GIVE YOU MY COPY. WHAT I WANT TO ASK YOU IS IF I PROVIDED THIS TO YOU, WOULD YOU AND THE APPLICANT TAKE THE TIME TO GET TOGETHER WITH THESE NEIGHBORS AND VISIT WITH THEM? AND MAYBE YOU CAN QUELL SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS. MAYBE THEY'LL TALK YOU INTO LOOKING FOR ANOTHER SITE. BUT WOULD YOU TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY? SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THIS IS WHY I WANTED TO PUT THIS RENDERING UP. WE DID GO MEET WITH EVERYBODY WITHIN 250FT. I UNDERSTAND. SO AND YOU KNOW, THAT WAS MIXED REVIEWS. AND SO AS YOU KIND OF COME IN, YOU JUST KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT THESE DISCUSSIONS WERE WITH THESE HOMEOWNERS. IF YOU START DOWN ON COLLEGE AND AT THE HARD CORNER, THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, WE SPOKE WITH THEM AND THEY'RE IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT. YOU GO TO THE NEXT HOME, YOU GO THROUGH AKER STREET, GO TO THE NEXT HOME. THERE'S THREE HOMES THERE. THE FIRST HOME TO THE SOUTH. THAT GENTLEMAN IS IN FAVOR OF IT AND IS SIGNED A DOCUMENT THAT YOU ALL RECEIVED TODAY IN SUPPORT. THE NEXT TWO ARE RENTAL PROPERTIES. THE GENTLEMAN DID COME TO PLANNING AND ZONING. HE WAS OPPOSED TO THIS. HE DIDN'T SHOW UP TONIGHT, BUT I'LL GO ON THE RECORD. HE WAS HE WAS OPPOSED TO IT AT PLANNING AND ZONING. SO NOW NOW WE CAN TURN AROUND AND GO TO HOW YOU PRONOUNCE THE ROAD. WOODLEY.

WOODLEY. WOODLEY. THANK YOU. THE FIRST HOUSE ON THE CORNER IS A RENTAL PROPERTY. IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR TWO YEARS. SO NOBODY'S NOBODY'S OCCUPYING THAT. WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF THEM. THE NEXT RESIDENCE IS ACTUALLY A LADY THAT I SPOKE WITH SEVERAL TIMES.

SHE. YOU KNOW, HER PREFERENCE IS TO NOT HAVE ANYTHING COME HERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I TOLD HER IN THE END, THIS IS ZONED WHERE WE CAN DO RESTAURANTS. WE CAN DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL USES.

THIS IS A HARD INTERSECTION. HARD CORNER INTERSECTION WITH A SIGNAL LIGHT. SOMETHING'S GOING TO GET DEVELOPED HERE IN THE NEXT YEAR. THIS TO ME IS ONE OF THE MOST LENIENT USES BECAUSE I THINK REALLY WHAT WILL END UP HAPPENING IS GOING TO BE A QSR WITH A DRIVE THRU IN IT ULTIMATELY IS WHAT'S GOING TO END UP HERE IF THIS DOESN'T GET APPROVED. CAN I TELL YOU SOMETHING? SURE. OUT OF YOUR REPRESENTATION, THE OUTER BLUE DASHED LINE ON HERE, THERE WERE ONLY THREE OF THOSE HOMES THAT SIGNED THIS PETITION. AND EVERYONE WHO SPOKE HERE TONIGHT ARE OUTSIDE OF THAT. CORRECT? AND WHAT I'M ASKING IS, GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY, WOULDN'T YOU WANT TO GO AND TALK WITH THOSE FOLKS SO THAT YOU COULD BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR? THAT'S ALL I WANT. LOOK, WE CAN TALK TO MURPHY. LET ME GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION WITH EVERYBODY, BUT LET ME TALK TO MURPHY ABOUT IT. I THINK I WAS TRYING TO SAVE YOU FROM DOING IT TWICE. IF YOU ACCEPTED MY OFFER. SO, SIR. HOMELESSNESS. I MEAN, WE CAN GET ON THAT DISCUSSION AND LET ME FINISH UP REAL QUICK. SO THE THIRD HOME IN ON WOODLEY IS A RENTAL. THE GENTLEMAN

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I GAVE THEM ALL MY NUMBERS. IF YOU DIDN'T LIKE IT, YOU CAN CALL ME IF YOU HAVE A CHANGE OF MINDS. THEY ALL HAVE MY PHONE NUMBER. AND THEN THE LAST CORNER HOUSE UP ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE LOT. I MET WITH THAT FAMILY AS WELL AND THEY WERE IN FAVOR. SO WHAT I TRIED TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT I GOT WITHIN THE HOMES THAT WERE IN THE 250FT REGARDING THE HOMELESSNESS.

LOOK, I DON'T KNOW THE HOMELESSNESS ISSUE AND THE PROBLEM THAT'S AROUND HERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I MET WITH SAN MIGUEL OWNER AND HE HAS HOMELESSNESS BACK THERE. I MET WITH THE LADY THAT OWNS THE SECOND HOUSE IN, AND SHE'S WORRIED ABOUT HOMELESS BACK THERE AS WELL. TO ME, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE NOW A NATIONAL TENANT UP HERE THAT IS GOING TO HAVE LIGHTING 24 OVER SEVEN TO A LEVEL THAT WILL GET REDUCED AT NIGHT. YOU'LL HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS. YOU'LL BE HAVE BETTER PROTECTION THAN AN EMPTY BUILDING JUST SITTING THERE TODAY. HOW HOW DOES THE HOMELESS PROBLEM OVER HERE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TODAY? I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT IN FULL VOLUMES, BUT. YOU KNOW, IS IT THERE? POSSIBLY. BUT I CAN'T I CAN'T, CAN'T DENY IT. SO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SCOTT. SO I WANT TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT. AND I DON'T HAVE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, BUT I DO THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THERE TO BE A COMMUNITY CONVERSATION ON THIS, BECAUSE THIS ISSUE EXISTS ALL ALONG THE 380 CORRIDOR. IT EXISTS ALL ALONG THE HIGHWAY FIVE CORRIDOR. WE ARE STRAINED. AND JUST TO KIND OF EXPLAIN MYSELF, I LIVE JUST SOUTH OF HERE. I LIVE AT WHITE AND COLLEGE ESSENTIALLY, SO I, I AM AT THIS INTERSECTION EVERY DAY.

I, I EAT AT SAN MIGUEL ONCE OR TWICE A MONTH. MY KIDS MAKE ME DRIVE THROUGH THAT SONIC EVERY CHANCE THEY GET. I USE THIS EXIT FROM COLLEGE, GOING SOUTH TO GO BACK TO MY HOME DOWN ON WIDEN.

SO I'M. I AM DRIVING THIS AREA ALL THE TIME. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A HOMELESS ISSUE THAT HOMELESS ISSUE STEMS FROM, AND WE SEE IT JUST OFF OF THIS MAP. THERE IS A HIGH LINE TRANSMISSION LINE THAT GOES FROM A SUBSTATION AT HIGHWAY FIVE AND RUNS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE INDUSTRIAL PARKS AROUND WALMART AND THOSE, AND IT IS A TRAFFICKED HIGHWAY BACK THERE FROM PEDESTRIANS. AND SO FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THIS INFLUENCING HOMELESSNESS, I DON'T THINK IT WILL. I THINK WE HAVE ISSUES TO DEAL WITH. AND I SPOKE WITH A NEIGHBOR ON NORTH WADDELL STREET 2 OR 3 WEEKS AGO, THE ONE THAT IS IN YOUR BACKYARD. I SPOKE WITH HER AND WE BROUGHT POLICE OUT THERE. THEY THEY AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE ARE ON THAT TRANSMISSION LINE STAYING IN THOSE TREE LINES. AND WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO ENFORCE WITH THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS ABOUT HOW THEY KEEP THOSE. BUT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF, OF THAT POPULATION BEING ATTRACTED TO. I AGREE WITH WHAT MR. WOODRUFF SAYING, BEING ATTRACTED TO THE WELL LIT, WELL USED AREA, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS OUR ISSUES, EVERYTHING ELSE IN THIS AREA. THE SUN IS AN ISSUE. THE ONE AT TENNESSEE AND HIGHWAY FIVE IS AN ISSUE. AND THESE ARE ISSUES BECAUSE OF DISINVESTMENT IN THESE AREAS. 380 IS A BEAR RIGHT NOW. HIGHWAY FIVE IS TOUGH AS WELL. BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE CREATED A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND WE'VE WE'VE GOT THE ANTIQUATED TEX-DOT SETBACKS THAT MAKE THESE SITES HARD TO DEVELOP. WE CREATED PROPERTY SIZES THAT AREN'T USABLE AS MUCH ANYMORE THAT NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO COME INTO, BECAUSE THEY CAN GO DOWN TO THE OTHER END OF 380 AND GET MORE DEPTH AND GET THE PARKING LOT AND GET THE VISIBILITY THEY WANT, AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS SITE. THERE ARE BETTER PLACES FOR BUSINESSES TO LOCATE ON THE ON THE NORTH EAST CORNER HERE. SOMEONE CAME IN, BUILT A NICE LITTLE RETAIL STORE. IT HADN'T BEEN OPENED SINCE. I MEAN, Y'ALL HAVE SEEN THAT THESE SITES ARE DIFFICULT

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I WOULD I WOULD SAY THIS TO THE RESIDENTS THAT SPOKE, AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS IN ANY DISCOUNTING WAY. LISTEN, YOU GOT A LOT OF SIGNATURES ON SIGNATURES ON A PETITION. AND I MEAN NO DISRESPECT BY WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY, BUT I KNOW THAT IF I WENT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AS AN AMBASSADOR OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I TRIED TO COLLECT SIGNATURES ON SOMETHING THAT WAS HAPPENING 400FT AWAY THAT REALLY HAD ZERO IMPACT, I'D GET MY WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SIGN. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WOULD I REALLY PUT MORE CREDENCE IN IS THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE AROUND IN THE 250 FOOT AREA. ALL THAT TO SAY, EVERYONE THAT SIGNED THIS, AT LEAST EVERYONE THAT HAS SPOKEN, REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE THAT SIGNED THIS, THERE IS NOT BEEN A SINGLE COMMENT THAT IS IN OPPOSITION OR ARTICULATED THAT THAT WOULD BE IN OPPOSITION TO THE VARIANCE BEING REQUESTED.

EVERY STATEMENT THAT'S BEEN MADE HAS BEEN HOMELESSNESS. I'M GOING TO DISAGREE WITH EVERYONE HERE THAT SAID THAT HOMELESSNESS IS HEIGHTENED WHEN YOU PUT LIGHTS, SECURITY AND ACTIVITY ON THE SITE VERSUS A VACATED OFFICE BUILDING, VACATED OFFICE BUILDING IS GOING TO ATTRACT HOMELESS 100 TIMES MORE EVERY SINGLE TIME, ALL THE TIME. SO I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC, THIS IS NOT A DESTINATION PLACE THAT'S BRINGING IN ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.

THIS IS THE TRAFFIC ON 380. THOSE ARE STOPPING AT A GAS STATION OR TRAVELING ALREADY.

IT'S JUST IN TRAVELING OUT OF HIS HOUSE RIGHT NOW. HE'S ALREADY TRAVELING THERE. YEAH.

CAN I JUST INTERJECT? YOU'RE MAKING A POINT I MEANT TO MAKE AT MY HOUSE ON WHEATON COLLEGE.

I HAVE SIX GAS STATIONS THAT I. I DON'T GO TO ANY OF THEM. I DON'T GO TO SUNOCO. I DON'T GO TO THE ONE ON TENNESSEE. I NEVER WOULD THE A LINE DOWN CLOSE TO ME ON NORTH TENNESSEE. THOSE AREN'T PLACES THAT I DON'T GO THAT I GO AND I TELL MY KIDS TO AVOID THEM. I HAVE TWO TEENAGE DAUGHTERS THAT GO GET GAS IN OUR VEHICLES ALL THE TIME. I WANT COMPETITION FOR THOSE THINGS BECAUSE THEY SHOULDN'T EXIST IN THE WAY THEY'RE OPERATING. AND SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT WITHOUT INVESTMENT. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO INTERJECT THAT BECAUSE I, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. AND AGAIN, EVERY COMMENT THAT'S BEEN MADE HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE VARIANCE THAT'S BEING REQUESTED. BECAUSE IF YOU WEREN'T REQUESTING THE 200FT, THE VARIANCE ON THE 250FT, YOU ALREADY HAVE A BUY, RIGHT? SO FOR ME, AS MUCH AS LISTEN, I HEAR EVERYONE HERE AND MOTION

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YOU PROBABLY HAVE A SENSE OF WHERE THIS MIGHT GO. I WOULD THINK THAT THE SMART THING TO DO WOULD BE ASK FOR IT TO BE TABLED. BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY TO EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM, I WOULD APPROACH THOSE CONVERSATIONS NOT LIKE YOU HOLD ALL THE LEVERAGE THAT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE SIGNATURES THAT THAT THAT'S GOING TO SWAY THE VOTE. WHAT I WOULD DO IF I WAS IN THE SHOES IS I WOULD LOOK AT WHAT MIGHT I BE ABLE TO WHAT MIGHT REASONABLY BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GAIN. YOU'VE MENTIONED POTENTIALLY A, A MASONRY FENCE. THOSE ARE THINGS I'D BE I'D BE THINKING ABOUT. BUT THE ARGUMENTS COMING BACK WHEN THIS COMES BACK, IF WE TABLE IT OF EVERYTHING WE JUST HEARD, AT LEAST FOR ME, I CAN TELL EVERYONE VERY, VERY DIRECTLY. IT WON'T IT WON'T MOVE ME. BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S EVERYTHING YOU SAID HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COUPLE VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED. IT JUST DOESN'T. SO AND I GOT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THAT'S THE SCARE, RIGHT? SO IF WE TABLE THIS WHAT POSITION DOES THAT PUT US BACK IN. BACK IN THIS THIS ROOM IN TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. DOES IT OPEN ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS BACK UP. DOES IT. HOW DOES THAT WORK? WELL, ALAN, WE'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH. CAN WE, MR. MAYOR? I'VE GOT IT. I'M GOING TO ASK EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT MICHAEL QUINN, WHO JUST INDICATED THAT THERE'S HE'S THERE'S SOME NUANCES TO THIS. I WANT TO HAVE HIM ANSWER THAT FOR YOU. IF YOU COULD. TYPICALLY IN THE PAST, WHEN WE'VE TABLED AN ITEM AND WE COME BACK TO A FOLLOWING MEETING, WE REOPEN OR CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING OR CALL FOR A NEW PUBLIC HEARING.

IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO TABLE TO THE NEXT MEETING, WE WOULD NEED YOU TO REOPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING SO THAT WE CONTINUE IT. IF WE DON'T REOPEN IT, WE NEED PUBLIC NOTICING REQUIREMENTS AND WE'LL BE BACK IN A BASICALLY TWO MEETINGS. SO LET ME UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO. BUT I DID NOT BELIEVE THAT'S A REQUIREMENT. I THOUGHT THAT IF WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, WE CAN TABLE OUR DECISION TO THE NEXT MEETING. IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND THE LAW TO BE.

THE LAW WOULD ALLOW YOU TO TABLE YOUR DECISION TO YOUR NEXT MEETING. SO WE CAN'T TABLE DELIBERATION. YOU CAN YOU CAN TABLE YOUR DECISION. YOU CAN TABLE YOUR DISCUSSION. BUT AS MR. QUINT INDICATED, TYPICALLY WE HAVE TABLED BOTH THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE DETERMINATION BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT IT CAN BE THE PUBLIC HEARING CAN BE REOPENED FOR PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP TO SPEAK, EITHER FOR OR AGAINST. SO THAT'S TYPICALLY WHY WE HAVE DONE BOTH OF THOSE IN CONJUNCTION. AND AGAIN, NOT TO BELABOR IT, I KNOW WHAT WE TYPICALLY HAVE DONE. I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S REQUIRED THOUGH. YES, SIR. AND I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT THIS TO BE READ BY THE CITIZENS HERE TO SPEAK AS AN INVITATION TO GO RALLY YOUR TROOPS AND COME BACK, BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO PROTECT YOU HERE BY DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT. AND I WANT TO THANK EACH OF YOU FOR SHOWING UP. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE FOLKS FROM MURPHY AND REMIND YOU GUYS THAT THEIR CONCERNS NOW BECOME YOUR CONCERNS. IF THIS IS GRANTED AND YOU GUYS ARE FIGHTING A COMMON ENEMY ON SEVERAL GROUNDS. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY YES, THANK YOU TO THE RESIDENTS TO COME AND EXPLAIN YOUR POSITION ON THIS. BUT I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE APPLICANT FOR DOING YOUR PART, BECAUSE MANY TIMES WE DO ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY'VE ENGAGED THE LOCAL COMMUNITY AND THEY SAY NO. SO I DO APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS THERE. ON THAT NOTE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO AHEAD AND TABLE THIS ITEM TILL THE ARE WE GOING TO DO THE APRIL

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NOW, IS YOUR PREFERENCE TO GO AND TALK TO THE. I MEAN, SECONDS? YEAH. FOR ME YOU YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS. YOU'VE REACHED OUT TO EVERYONE WITHIN THE 250FT. SO IF THEY WANT TO TAKE THEIR CHANCE BASED ON WHAT THEY'VE HEARD, THEY SHOULD. I WANT THEM TO DECIDE IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT OR WOULD LIKE TO. SO IN TALKING WITH MURPHY, I THINK WE'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A VOTE TONIGHT, AND THEN WE WOULD WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS AS WE PROCEED THROUGH. IF IT PASSES, WE'LL WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS ON ALL THE REST OF THE PLANS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. DO YOU RESPECT THAT? I PERSONALLY WOULD RATHER NOT. I'D RATHER TABLE THE ITEM.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. THE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE ARE GREAT POINTS. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO REHEAR THOSE POINTS. I WOULD RATHER JUST HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR DISCUSSION, BECAUSE I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME EXPLANATION TO THE RESIDENTS ABOUT WHAT OTHER TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS WOULD DO TO THIS CORNER, TO WHAT DO YOU REALLY WANT HERE? AND JUSTIN IS YOUR DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE. HE HAS ALREADY OFFERED TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS. I'M HAPPY TO BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION AS WELL. I'D RATHER SEE IT GO THAT WAY THAN US TO JUST TRY TO MAKE A DECISION WITHOUT THAT CONVERSATION TONIGHT, THAT'S MY PREFERENCE. BUT I WILL YIELD TO THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL. I MEAN, WE'RE OPEN TO IT. I MEAN, IT'S FUNNY. WE'RE HERE, RIGHT? YOU'RE HERE. YOU WANT TO MAKE A DECISION, BUT WE'RE WE'RE HERE TO SPEAK WITH THE RESIDENTS. BUT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY BY HAVING SOME VERY OPEN DISCUSSIONS. AND FOR US, IT'S WORKED OUT IN A POSITIVE WAY IN THE PAST. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE IT A CHANCE AT LEAST. MR. MAYOR, DESPITE THE APPLICANT WANTING A DECISION TONIGHT, WE'RE NOT COMPELLED TO OFFER THAT THE MAYOR PRO TEM CAN MAKE A NO NO, SHE CAN MOTION. I WAS JUST WANTING TO GET OKAY BEFORE SHE MADE IT. I WANTED TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK AGAIN. SHE, AS YOU STATED, SHE CERTAINLY CAN STILL MAKE THE MOTION. SO I WOULD LIKE AND WE'LL BE OKAY.

WE'LL BE OPEN TO HAVE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS ITEM WITH A CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL THE APRIL 15TH MEETING. OKAY. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY PUBLIC INPUT. WE'RE JUST GOING TO COME BACK IN AND MAKE A DECISION, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE GOING TO GO TALK TO THE RESIDENTS, I'D LIKE TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY THEY TALKED TO, WHAT THE RESIDENTS SAID. DID THEY MAKE ANY PROGRESS TOWARD GETTING TOGETHER? IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN DO THAT? THAT IS OKAY WITH ME? I, I THINK THEY'VE MADE VERY GOOD POINTS TONIGHT. I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT ELSE IS GOING TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD THAT WOULD SHIFT MY DECISION BASED ON HOW WELL THEY ARTICULATED THEIR POSITION. THAT'S MY THAT'S MY POSITION ON THIS. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I THINK THAT CAN BE OPEN TO DISCUSSION HERE. I AM GOING TO CALL US INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR JUST A QUICK PAUSE, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH COUNCIL ON THIS, THAT SPECIFIC ASPECT OF THIS. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH HOLD ON, PLEASE. I SHOULD KNOW IT BY MEMORY. SECTION 551 .071 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, FOR CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY. MR. MAYOR, WHEN YOU USE COUNSEL IN THAT SECTION, ARE YOU SPELLING IT? C O U N S E 17 SECONDS. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE BACK IN SESSION. WE RECORDED. OKAY. I WANT TO RETRACT MY PREVIOUS MOTION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COUNSEL, ALAN, ON THIS TOPIC. SO THE CLARIFICATION HERE IS THAT IF WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE CAN'T ASK THE APPLICANT OR THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC A QUESTION. SO WE ARE GOING TO NEED SOME OBVIOUSLY, SOME RESULTS OF THE DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE COMMUNITY. AND THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE THAT FAIR IS TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO MY MOTION IS TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE THIS ITEM TO THE APRIL 15TH MEETING. I'LL SECOND BEFORE WE VOTE, JUST SO EVERYONE CAN HAVE AN EXPECTATION. AND THE NEXT MEETING I WILL HAVE A FINITE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE WILL HAVE OPEN FOR PUBLIC

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[COUNCIL AND MANAGER COMMENTS]

AND THEY'RE FROM THE ENTIRE AREA, WILL HOST ABOUT 1000 ATHLETES HERE IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS FROM ALL THE AREA SCHOOLS. PLEASE COME OUT. YOU WILL SEE SOMETHING JUST TRULY REMARKABLE ABOUT YOUR HOMETOWN. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. TOMORROW MARKS APRIL FOOL'S DAY TOMORROW, BUT IT ALSO IS GIVES US A MONTH AWAY FROM THE BYRON NELSON. SO I JUST WANT TO MENTION TO THE PUBLIC HERE THAT TICKETS ARE STILL ON SALE. THERE'S LOTS OF HOSPITALITY TICKETS TO THE CHAMPIONS CLUB, THE CHOCTAW CLUB. GENERAL ADMISSION, FUN FAMILY EVENT TO ALL COME OUT MAY 1ST THROUGH THE FOURTH. ALSO, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE CHILD, THE COLLIN COUNTY CHILD ADVOCACY CENTER GALA THIS PAST WEEKEND, WHICH IS A GREAT CAUSE FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT HELPS RAISE MONEY FOR KIDS THAT YOU KNOW, NEED A VOICE AND NEED A HELPING HAND WHO HAVE BEEN ABUSED AND NEED SOMEBODY TO SPEAK IN THEIR ON THEIR BEHALF. A GREAT ORGANIZATION, GREAT GALA WITH THAT. I THINK I'M GONNA PASS ON THE NEXT TWO ITEMS. OKAY. GO AHEAD. I'LL KEEP MINE SHORT AS WELL. I HAD THE VERY DISTINGUISHED HONOR OF GOING TO THE CANINE OFFICER OSI MEMORIAL SERVICE LAST WEEK. AS YOU ALL MAY KNOW, WE HAD AN INCIDENT WHERE OFFICER OSI JUMPED IN FRONT OF AN ASSAILANT AND WAS ABLE TO SAVE THE LIVES OF MANY OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS. WE HAD PD FROM ACROSS THE NORTH TEXAS REGION COME AND JOIN US FOR THAT. AND SO WE WANT TO THANK THEM, BUT WE WANT TO EXTEND OUR DEEPEST, DEEPEST CONDOLENCES TO THE MCKINNEY PD. AND ALSO OFFICER BLAIR, WHO WAS CANINE OFFICER, OZZY'S HANDLER AND COMPANION. AND THEN LASTLY, I WANT TO THANK THE ZETA PHI BETA SORORITY INCORPORATED FOR HONORING ME FOR AS WOMAN OF THE YEAR A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. IT'S A WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION. IT IS AN ALUMNI ASSOCIATION THAT IS REALLY DEDICATED TO DOING A LOT OF GREAT COMMUNITY SERVICE IN THE AREA, SO IT WAS GREAT TO SEE THEIR FACES AND HEAR ABOUT THEIR COMMITMENT TO MAKING MCKINNEY A BETTER PLACE, BUT WANT TO THANK YOU. THANK THEM FOR EXTENDING THAT HONOR TO ME. JUSTIN, I DON'T I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

THANK YOU. I'VE GOT THREE BRIEF THINGS PIGGYBACKING ON THE MAYOR PRO TEM, THE OZZY FUNERAL, I SAT RIGHT BEHIND THE FAMILY AND THAT OZZY THING WAS WAS REMARKABLE. HE WAS THE FAMILY PET. SO THE OFFICER LOST HIS PARTNER, LOST THE CANINE TRAINED. AND THE LITTLE KIDS, LITTLE KIDS LOST THEIR FAMILY PET. IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE. NONE OF US IN MCKINNEY THAT I TALKED TO POLICE CHIEF, CITY MANAGER HAD EVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN, I WENT TO THE FIRE PROMOTION CEREMONY LAST FRIDAY AND WE HAD FIREFIGHTERS PROMOTE, GRADUATE FROM AND BECOME FIREFIGHTERS. WE HAD PEOPLE PROMOTE TO DRIVER. WE HAD FOLKS PROMOTE TO CAPTAIN AND CHIEF AND AS AND THAT IS A REMARKABLY COMPETITIVE AND RESILIENT AND VERY CAPABLE AND PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION THAT WE HAVE THERE. AND THAT WASN'T LOST ON ME THERE. LAST THING, JAMEER DABNEY WAS KILLED IN MCKINNEY ON THE 21ST OF DECEMBER. HE WAS KILLED AT LAKE FOREST IN HIGHLANDS. IT WAS A CAR ACCIDENT. AND OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS REALLY STEPPED UP

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AND YOU CAN ALSO IMAGINE HOW HEARTBREAKING TO WATCH THAT UNFOLD WHEN YOU ARE THE, THE PARTNER, THE, THE, THE FAMILY MEMBER OF THAT DOG AS WELL. BUT LAST THING I'LL SAY IS I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE THAT'S WATCHING NOW THAT WASN'T WATCHING. AT 4:00 WE HAD A POLICE RECOGNITION CEREMONY, NOT CEREMONY, BUT THE EVERY, EVERY SO OFTEN POLICE RECOGNIZED OFFICERS FOR SPECIAL DUTY IN THE OFFICERS THAT WERE RECOGNIZED TODAY, AS THEY ALWAYS ARE, WERE REALLY, REALLY INCREDIBLE. AND TO HEAR THE STORY OF SOME CHILDREN THAT WERE THAT WERE TRULY SAVED BY THE EFFORTS OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WORTH TAKING THE TIME TO GO BACK AND WATCH THE VIDEO. AND YOU MIGHT, MIGHT MAYBE WRITE A LITTLE NOTE AND SEND IT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO JUST GIVE YOUR ACCOLADES TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THOSE SPECIFIC OFFICERS AND WHAT THEY DID AND HOW THEY REALLY INTERVENED AND SAVED CHILDREN'S LIVES, AND CERTAINLY FROM SOME HORRIFIC EXPERIENCE. SO WITH THAT MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.