Apr 03, 2025 Historic Preservation Advisory Board

[CALL TO ORDER]

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£0.30 M. WELCOME TO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY'S HISTORIC PRESERVATION ADVISORY BOARD MEETING OF APRIL THE 3RD, 2025. THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT YOU SEE SEATED BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING HAVE BEEN APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND WE SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU ARE HERE THIS EVENING AND WISH TO SPEAK DURING A PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION, PLEASE COMPLETE A SPEAKER'S CARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND LIMIT YOUR REMARKS TO THREE MINUTES.

WE ASK THAT YOU BE CONCISE IN YOUR COMMENTS AND SPEAK ONLY ONCE, IF NECESSARY, TO CLARIFY OR TO ANSWER QUESTIONS POSED BY THE AUDIENCE. CITY STAFF WILL BE CALLED TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED BY THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE. THE BOARD REQUESTS THAT WE ALL TREAT EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT. FOCUS ON THE ISSUES. BE CONCISE IN YOUR COMMENTS. WE ALL WANT TO ACT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ALL THE CITIZENS OF MCKINNEY, WHILE MAINTAINING THE HERITAGE AND HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA ITEMS? NONE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE INFORMATION

[Update on Municipal Complex projects]

AND THEN THE LAST GUIDING PRINCIPLE HERE WAS ADAPT GRACEFULLY TO CHANGE OVER TIME.

WE KNOW THAT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT STAFFING LEVELS WILL LOOK LIKE, OR CITY GOVERNMENT WILL LOOK LIKE IN 40 YEARS WHEN WE'RE STILL USING THIS BUILDING. SO WE WANTED TO BUILD A BUILDING THAT COULD BE ADAPTABLE. FROM THERE, WE HAD SOME IDEAS AND CONCEPT DIAGRAMS. WE TALKED ABOUT CELEBRATING HISTORY, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE VIEWS AND THEN BEING A CONNECTION POINT. CELEBRATING THE HISTORY. YOU CAN SEE THE HIGHLIGHTED PORTION HERE WITH THE FLOUR MILL AND THE SILOS. AND OF COURSE YOU CAN SEE THE BOX THAT IN THE PLAZA EARLY ON AND THROUGH THE FIRST PART OF THE DESIGN PROCESS, THE GOAL WAS TO INCORPORATE THE OLD ICE HOUSE THAT WAS LOCATED HERE ON THIS SITE. ULTIMATELY, UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE UNABLE TO SAVE THE ICE HOUSE. DEFERRED MAINTENANCE OR FORGOTTEN MAINTENANCE OVER, YOU KNOW, DECADES, 40, 50 YEARS. LED TO IT BEING A STRUCTURE THAT WAS NOT SOUND. AND WE HAD SOME ESTIMATES AND THE COST OF PRESERVING THAT BUILDING WERE BEYOND WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL CHOSE TO TAKE ON. BUT WE STILL WANT TO CELEBRATE THAT HISTORY. AND SO WE'VE DONE A COUPLE THINGS TO RECOGNIZE THAT HISTORY. OH, SORRY. I HAVE ONE MORE SLIDE HERE. CIVIC PLAZA VISION. WE WANTED TO LEVERAGE THE AGRIBUSINESS. HISTORY OF THIS SIDE OF THE TRACKS. EVERYTHING FROM THE COTTON PRODUCTION TO THE FLOUR MILL TO THE OTHER INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES ON THIS SITE. WE WANTED THE PLAZA TO BE A GATHERING SPACE. WE SPENT A LOT OF EFFORT TO TURN IT INTO A SPACE THAT COULD BE USED FOR FESTIVALS AND EVENTS, BUT ALSO A PARK LIKE SETTING THAT PEOPLE CAN UTILIZE JUST DURING THE DAY, DURING THE WEEK, AND THEN NATURE. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST COMING OUT OF A, A WINTER WHERE WE PLANTED THE MATERIALS OUT ON THE PLAZA RIGHT BEFORE WE HIT THE DORMANT SEASON. SO YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE IMAGES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HERE. YOU SEE A LOT MORE GROWTH THAN WHAT YOU SEE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. SO HERE, AS WE MATURE WITH THE LANDSCAPING,

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ONCE WE GO WITH STRUCTURED PARKING IN THE FUTURE. BUT THE GOAL IS TO MAKE THIS KIND OF A CENTER POINT, THIS AREA, A CENTER POINT THAT EXTENDS THE ACTIVITY THAT WE SEE IN DOWNTOWN. SO THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH BEFORE WE STARTED CONSTRUCTION. YOU CAN SEE THE SITE. THE ICE HOUSE IS THE SITE THAT'S LOCATED. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE ANNOTATIONS WORKING TONIGHT, BUT WE'LL GIVE IT A SHOT. THE ICE HOUSE SITS RIGHT IN HERE. HEY, LOOK AT THAT. AND THEN OUR CURRENT CITY HALL KIND OF WAS INTENDED TO WRAP AROUND THAT. SEE? ALL RIGHT. THE OTHER NIGHT, THE ANNOTATION WAS NOT WORKING, SO I'M PRETTY HAPPY WITH THIS. SO THEN YOU SWITCH OVER, YOU CAN SEE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE FLOUR MILL, YOU HAVE THE OLD GRAIN ELEVATOR, MCKINNEY GRAIN SITE AND THE TRAILERS THAT WERE ALONG DUNCAN STREET. SO NEXT SLIDE, KIND OF KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE SCREEN. YOU FLIP THAT OVER AND YOU SEE WHERE WE ARE TODAY WITH THE ADDITIONAL PARKING. THE TOP SITE BEING CONSTRUCTED AND THEN CITY HALL. THIS I BELIEVE WAS FROM JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S A LITTLE BEHIND ON THE VIRGINIA THROCKMORTON PROJECT, WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL BE OPEN TO TRAFFIC HERE VERY SHORTLY. OKAY. SOMETHING WENT DEAD THERE. OKAY.

WE'RE BACK UP AND YOU CAN SEE THE PARKING AROUND CITY HALL AND THE PLAZA. SO WHEN WE HAD TO BRING DOWN THE ICE HOUSE TO START CONSTRUCTION, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO DO IS REUSE THE BRICK IN THE SITE. SO YOU CAN SEE WE BROUGHT. SOME OF THE COLUMNS AND WE RESTORED THOSE THROUGHOUT CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN WE ALSO WERE ABLE TO HAVE THE COMPANY THAT WAS WORKING ON THAT. THEY WERE ABLE TO CLEAN AND STORE THE INDIVIDUAL BRICKS FOR REUSE ON THE SITE. I PRESENTED THIS TO THE HFPA BACK AROUND THAT TIME. WE WANTED THE PLAN FOR THE RECOGNITION OF THE ICE HOUSE WAS TO BUILD A PLAZA OR A GARDEN, UTILIZING THE FOOTPRINT WITH SOME SURVEY MARKERS THAT WERE SHOWING THE CORNERS OF THE OLD BUILDING, AND THEN A LOW WALL BUILT FROM THE BRICK OF THE ICE HOUSE ITSELF. AND SOME IMAGES OF WHAT THAT WAS INTENDED TO LOOK LIKE. AND YOU CAN SEE THE NICE GROWTH OF THE, THE FOLIAGE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE JUST YET IN MY PRETTY PICTURES. A COUPLE OTHER IMAGES. AND THEN I WANTED TO SHOW YOU WHERE WE ARE TODAY. SO THIS IS THE WALL THAT SITS RIGHT OVER THERE. YEAH. YOU CAN SEE THIS OUT THE WINDOW IF YOU'RE IN THE RIGHT SPOT. THESE ARE THE ICE HOUSE BRICK THAT WE'VE REPURPOSED. WE'VE BROUGHT IN SOME SEATING BENCHES. WE BROUGHT IN, I BELIEVE IT'S THE LARGEST TREE WE BROUGHT ON THE SITE. WE WANTED TO PLANT SOMETHING THAT WAS SIGNIFICANT IN THAT SPACE. RATHER THAN WAIT YEARS FOR SOMETHING TO GROW. THE GROUND COVER IS NOT QUITE THERE, BUT WE DID DO UP LIGHTING AS WELL ON THE BRICK WALL TO SHOWCASE THIS SPOT IN THE EVENINGS. I WILL SAY THAT THE SURVEY MARKERS ARE NOT IN YET. THEY WERE SPECIAL ORDERED. LIKE A LOT OF THINGS ON THIS BUILDING. WE MOVED IN AND IT'S OPERATIONAL, BUT IT'S NOT QUITE COMPLETE. HVAC BEING ONE OF THOSE AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE COLD ROOM. A COUPLE DIFFERENT VIEWS. SO YOU CAN SEE THE COLUMNS WERE BUILT TO MIMIC THE OLD COLUMNS. WE HAD SOME OTHER IDEAS TO UTILIZE THE BRICK IN THE BUILDING. WE HAD A NICE SOLID PANEL OF BRICK THAT WAS ABOUT THREE COURSES THICK THAT WE CUT, AND WE WERE GOING TO USE THAT FOR A COFFEE TABLE IN THE LOBBY. ON RECONSIDERING, CONSIDERING THAT THAT COFFEE TABLE WOULD HAVE WEIGHED ABOUT A TON. AND SO WE CHOSE NOT TO GO WITH THAT, BUT SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT WE HAD THOUGHT OF TRYING TO REUSE THAT BRICK. BUT WE HOPE THIS IS A NICE SPACE TO RECOGNIZE THE HISTORY OF THE SITE. OVER TIME, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PLAQUE PUT UP THAT KIND OF TELLS THE STORY OF THE ICE HOUSE, AND SO WE'LL BE WORKING ON THAT GOING FORWARD. JUST SOME OF THE IMAGES FROM BACK WHEN WE DESIGNED THE BUILDING AND FLIPPING OVER TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. SO YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION OF THE ICE HOUSE WALL AS IT RELATES TO THE MAIN

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HERE WE ARE TODAY A LITTLE. LITTLE COLDER LOOKING RIGHT NOW, BUT HOPEFULLY WHEN EVERYTHING GREENS UP, WE START TO SEE THAT IMAGE. SO THAT'S THE LAST THING I HAVE ON THE ICE HOUSE LOCATION. THE NEXT THING WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS KIND OF THE ONGOING PROJECT WE HAVE. SO ANOTHER CONCEPT WE HAD FOR THIS SITE TO RECOGNIZE THE HISTORY, NOT ONLY THIS SITE SPECIFICALLY, BUT MCKINNEY'S HISTORY WAS THROUGH THE BREEZEWAY. THE IDEA WAS TO UTILIZE THAT WALL SPACE TO HAVE PANELS THAT WOULD HAVE IMAGES, AND A NARRATIVE THAT WENT WITH IT, TO ALLOW OUR CITIZENS AND VISITORS TO COME THROUGH AND KIND OF READ ABOUT THE HISTORY OF MCKINNEY. AND THAT CAN BE A ROTATING EXHIBIT. I ASSUME THAT THE COST AND DIFFICULTY OF PRODUCING THIS WOULD PROBABLY WANT IT TO BE A YEAR OR TWO IN BETWEEN CHANGING, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ALWAYS KIND OF BE IN THE HAVE THE NEXT ONE IN THE WORKS. BUT THOSE PANELS ARE NOW INSTALLED.

YOU CAN SEE THEM AS YOU WALK THROUGH, AND THEN A CLOSE UP OF WHAT THOSE PANELS LOOK LIKE ON THE RIGHT. SO THE GOAL OF THOSE PANELS IS TO CREATE THAT NARRATIVE. AND THOSE IMAGES.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE USING ELSEWHERE. THE CATHERINE HEARD CRAIG PANEL WHICH WAS GOING TO GO AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION, NOT HERE AT CITY HALL, BUT THIS WAS AN EXAMPLE THAT OUR COMMUNICATIONS AND MARKETING TEAM GAVE ME TO SAY, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR EACH OF THOSE PANELS. SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO AS A BOARD IS TO HELP US DEVELOP THOSE PANELS. SO AT YOUR STATION TONIGHT, THERE'S A THIS IS KIND OF A RUNNING TIMELINE.

OUR COMMUNICATIONS AND MARKETING TEAM REACHED OUT TO THE COLLIN HISTORY MUSEUM, AND THEY WORKED WITH THEM TO COME UP WITH A TIMELINE THAT IS KIND OF THE BASIS OF THE FIRST EXHIBIT. WE'D LIKE TO PUT IN THE BREEZEWAY. AND WITH THAT, ON TOP OF THAT IS A SMALL FLASH DRIVE. ON THAT FLASH DRIVE ARE I DIDN'T COUNT OVER 100 HISTORIC PHOTOS THAT WE'VE COLLECTED. IF YOU'VE BEEN AROUND OUR BUILDING, YOU SEE THE HISTORIC IMAGES WE HAVE UP ON THE WALLS. WE HAVE THOSE THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING. SOME OF THEM ARE VERY, VERY INTERESTING AND VERY UNIQUE, BUT THEY'RE ALL MCKINNEY. AND SO I WILL SAY, WHEN WE WERE BUILDING THIS BUILDING AND WE WERE WORKING ON THE FINISHES AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE FLOORS WERE GOING IN AND THE CARPET WAS GOING DOWN AND IT WAS GREAT. IT WAS EXCITING TO SEE. BUT THE DAY THEY STARTED PUTTING THOSE IMAGES UP IS WHEN THE BUILDING REALLY POPPED, LIKE IT REALLY WAS LIKE, OKAY, THAT'S UNIQUE AND THAT'S SOMETHING REALLY COOL. SO IF YOU HAVE NOT YET, I WOULD ADVISE THAT YOU TAKE A TOUR OF THE BUILDING AND TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE PICTURES. SOME OF THEM HAVE VERY INTERESTING BACKSTORIES THAT I WON'T GIVE TODAY, BUT I'M HAPPY TO OFFER TOURS TO THE BOARD AT SOME POINT. JUST TO KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH TO SEE THOSE. BUT ON THE FLASH DRIVE, WE ADDED ALL OF THOSE PHOTOS, PLUS A BUNCH OF OTHERS THAT WE'VE COLLECTED, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS UTILIZING THE NARRATIVE TO WORK ON THE TEXT TO COME UP WITH PICTURES. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PICTURES. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SOURCE MATERIAL TO BUILD OUT THE FULL NARRATIVE. SO IF YOU KNOW OF SOURCES FOR PHOTOS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CAPTURE THOSE AND BRING THOSE BACK IN SO THAT WE CAN USE THEM. BUT ALSO LOOK THROUGH THE PHOTOS THAT ARE ON THE FLASH DRIVE. NUMBER ONE, THEY'RE YOURS TO HAVE AND KEEP, BUT ALSO HELP US TO PLACE THE PHOTOS WITH THE STORIES. I PUT A COUPLE OF IMAGES. SO THESE ARE ALL IMAGES HERE ON THIS SLIDE THAT WE'VE USED THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING. SOME REALLY COOL BACK STORIES TO THESE. THE HORSE DRAWN HEARSE. THE GENTLEMAN STANDING IN FRONT OF CROUCH'S FURNITURE STORE HAS A GREAT STORY THAT I'M TRYING TO CONFIRM. IF ANYONE CONFIRM WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW BECAUSE THERE'S A STORY THAT I'VE HEARD. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TRUE. SO I'M NOT GOING TO PUT IT ON THE PUBLIC RECORD. BUT YEAH, ANYONE WHO HAS BACKGROUND HISTORY ON THESE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT, BECAUSE WE WOULD ALSO LOVE TO GO THROUGH THE BUILDING AND PUT A SMALL NARRATIVE ON EACH OF THESE PHOTOS. SO AS SOMEONE'S WALKING THROUGH THE BUILDING, THEY CAN SAY, HEY, THIS IS MISTER CROUCH, WHO OWNED CROUCH'S FURNITURE STORE. STANDING BEHIND THE HORSE DRAWN HEARSE. AND THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, CIRCA 1870 WHEN THIS PICTURE WAS TAKEN, AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO HAVE THAT AS THEY WALK THROUGH THE BUILDING. I LOVE THE PICTURE AT THE TOP LEFT. THAT'S THE PICTURE WE USE FOR THE FIRST FLOOR ELEVATOR LOBBY. IT'S A PICTURE OF THE FLOUR MILL BACK WHEN THERE WERE MORE SILOS LOCATED HERE. AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE COLLIN COUNTY COURTHOUSE BEFORE IT WAS RECONSTRUCTED. RECONSTRUCTED. SO

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ONCE WE HAVE THAT DONE, WE'LL INVITE EVERYONE BACK. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A KIND OF AN UNVEILING OF THE FIRST HISTORIC EXHIBIT AND MAKE A BIG PARTY OUT OF THAT. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF FUN, BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE. THE NARRATIVE IS A STARTING POINT.

DO NOT FEEL SHY TO MARK IT UP. IT IS. ALSO, THERE'S A UNFORTUNATELY, ALL I HAD TODAY WHEN I WAS PUTTING THE FLASH DRIVES TOGETHER WAS A PDF, BUT THAT IS ON THE FLASH DRIVE AS WELL. SO YOU CAN HAVE A DIGITAL COPY, OR YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO MARK UP THE HARD COPY AND BRING THAT BACK. WE WANT TO GET IT AS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE. SO LAST THING BEFORE I ASK FOR QUESTIONS, I DID WANT TO SHOW THIS INVITE. SATURDAY, APRIL 19TH FROM NOON TO THREE, WE ARE HAVING A GRAND OPENING CELEBRATION FOR CITY HALL. A COUPLE THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN THAT DAY. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE RIBBON CUTTING. WE'RE GOING TO UNVEIL THE DEDICATION PLAQUE. WE ARE GOING TO OFFER TOURS OF THE BUILDING. SO WE'RE GOING TO RIGHT NOW THE ELEVATORS ARE SECURE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE BADGES. WE'RE GOING TO UNLOCK THE ELEVATORS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CITY STAFF MEMBERS ON EACH FLOOR SO YOU CAN WANDER THE BUILDING.

I WILL SAY WE ARE GOING TO ONLY BE IN PUBLIC SPACES. WE DON'T WANT RANDOM TOURS GOING THROUGH PEOPLE'S PRIVATE OFFICES AND WORKSTATIONS. SO WE WON'T BE GOING EVERY NOOK AND CRANNY OF THE BUILDING. BUT WE WILL LET PEOPLE THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE, THE, THE COOL SPACES. WE'LL HAVE SOME FOOD TRUCKS, WE'LL HAVE SOME BOOTHS SET UP BY EAST SIDE VENDORS AND BUSINESSES. AND THEN WE'RE PARTNERING WITH A COUPLE OTHER EVENTS THAT SAME DAY STARTING AT TWO. SO OVERLAPPING WITH OURS, THE EAST MCKINNEY LEARNING GARDEN IS ALSO GOING TO HAVE AN EVENT WHERE THEY HAVE A BAND, THE BIRD DOGS, GOING TO BE. OVER THERE PERFORMING LIVE AT THE COMMUNITY GARDEN, AND THEN FROM THREE TILL TEN, I BELIEVE TUPPS HAS A RHYTHM AND BLUES MUSIC FESTIVAL. SO KIND OF A FUN DAY HERE ON THE EAST SIDE. IT IS THE SATURDAY OF EASTER WEEKEND AND THAT'S THE BEST DATE WE COULD COME UP WITH. UNFORTUNATELY, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE FAMILY OBLIGATIONS AND EVENTS THAT THEY HAVE PLANNED FOR THAT WEEKEND AND THAT IS GREAT. BUT IF YOU CAN PLEASE COME ON DOWN AND JOIN US AND BRING YOUR FAMILY IF THEY'RE IN FROM OUT OF TOWN FOR THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND. SO EXCITING STUFF. IT'S GOING TO BE A FUN DAY AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING

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AND WE CAN, LIKE, LEAD ON TO THE NEXT STEP FROM THERE. SO IS THAT GOOD FOR EVERYONE? GIVES YOU A MONTH OF RESEARCH TIME AND TALKING TIME AND REVIEWING TIME. AND THEN I'LL BE BACK AND WE'LL START TO NARROW IT DOWN. OKAY. THANK YOU. A COUPLE QUESTIONS. IS THERE GOING TO BE LIGHTING ON THOSE PANELS? I'M ASSUMING. SO IN THE I NOTICED THIS JUST TODAY IN THE RENDERINGS OF THAT SPACE.

THEY DO SHOW TRACK LIGHTING. THERE'S NOT TRACK LIGHTING OUT THERE TODAY. SO THAT WILL BE SOMETHING WE'LL WORK ON. SO YES THE GOAL IS TO HAVE IT LIT. OKAY. AND HOW MANY COLUMNS ARE OUT THERE. SO WE HAVE 13 PANELS 13 PANELS. AND HOW MANY? I'M LOOKING AT THIS DOCUMENT HERE.

3456789 TEN 1112 1314. SO YOU'RE GOING TO PUT MORE THAN ONE ON A PANEL. OKAY. YES. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE DATES WITH ENTRIES ARE VERY SHORT. YOU KNOW, HOW IS THAT 13 COLUMNS WE CAN DO BACK AND FRONT 13 INDIVIDUAL PANELS. SO 13 FACES 13 FACES IS WHAT I WAS TOLD. BUT THAT'S ODD TO HAVE AN ODD NUMBER. OKAY. IT FEELS LIKE IT SHOULD BE. SO I MEAN I'M A I'M IN SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION, SO I'M ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT HOW TO MAKE HISTORY REAL TO PEOPLE, TO KIDS. AND YOU KNOW, THE PICTURES ARE EVERYTHING LOOKS REALLY GREAT. THE INFORMATION LOOKS GREAT IN THE RESEARCH. BUT I HAD A THOUGHT AS YOU WERE TALKING, HOW TO MAKE IT MORE REAL FOR PEOPLE. AND IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ALL OF THESE WRITINGS ARE ABOUT ACTUAL PLACES IN AND AROUND THE HISTORIC DISTRICT? PRETTY MUCH. SO JUST AN IDEA, OR MAYBE SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IS IF YOU SOMEHOW IDENTIFIED THE PICTURES AND THEN TOOK THEM TO A PLACE EITHER WITH AUGMENTED AND AUGMENTED DEVICE SO THAT PEOPLE COULD SEE WHERE IT GOES, AND THEN EVEN ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO VISIT THOSE DIFFERENT SITES, LIKE, OKAY, HERE'S THE COTTON MILL, GO THERE. AND THEN SOMETHING YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT IS IF THEY COMPLETE IT AND YOU GIVE THEM SOME KIND OF A BADGE, LIKE I'M A MCKINNEY HISTORIAN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST TO ENCOURAGE KIDS AND THEIR FAMILIES TO NOT JUST READ ABOUT IT, BUT TO REALLY LIKE, HEY, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THESE HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND PLACES, AND IT JUST MAKES IT ALL THAT MORE REAL. YEAH. AS YOU'RE SAYING THAT, IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING WE COULD WORK WITH VISIT MCKINNEY. SO IF YOU GO VISIT ALL OF THE SITES AND STOP BY, VISIT MCKINNEY AND SHOW THEM PHOTOS OR PROOF OF THE SCAVENGER HUNT BEING COMPLETED, YOU HAVE TO TAKE A PICTURE IN FRONT OF. THEN HERE'S IT COMES WITH A SOMETHING. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S REALLY COOL. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THEIR BIRDING SERIES. THEY HAVE DOWN ALL THE MURALS ON THE BUILDINGS IN DOWNTOWN. SO THEY CREATED A BIRDING GUIDE THAT YOU CAN PICK UP AT VISIT MCKINNEY. AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE BIRDS, IF YOU GO INTO THE STORE THAT IT'S PAINTED ON, THEY WILL GIVE YOU A STICKER OF THAT BIRD. AND IT GOES IN THE BIRDING GUIDE. AND ONCE YOU HAVE ALL THE, THE, THE STICKERS, THEN I THINK YOU GO BACK TO VISIT MCKINNEY. SO THEY THERE'S A PRECEDENT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AND I THINK WE COULD WORK WITH THEM TO DEVELOP THAT OUT. THAT'S A COOL IDEA. ALL RIGHT. ANY IDEA WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE STREET FINISHED? SO GREAT QUESTION I SO MY OFFICE IS RIGHT UP HERE AND I LOOK AT THAT ALL DAY LONG EVERY DAY I'M LIKE WHEN'S IT GOING TO BE DONE. THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THE NORTH SOUTH PORTION OF THROCKMORTON OPEN FOR TRAFFIC BY THE 19TH FOR THIS EVENT. SO THEY THEY'RE HUSTLING. SO IF YOU GO OUT THERE AND SEE WHAT THEY'VE DONE RECENTLY, THEY THEY'RE PUTTING IN A LOT OF THE BRICK PAVER CROSSWALKS AND SIDEWALKS WHEN WE OPEN THAT UP, BECAUSE IT'S A PEDESTRIAN EVENT AND PEOPLE WALKING BACK AND FORTH, WE'RE GOING TO BLOCK OFF ACCESS WEST FROM THE CIRCLE. THAT WILL GET YOU TO THIS RIGHT WHERE THIS CAR IS DRIVING RIGHT NOW. I HAVEN'T SEEN PEOPLE DO THAT, BUT IT IS PAVED NOW. SO I GUESS YOU CAN WE'LL BLOCK IT OFF SO THE PEDESTRIANS CAN USE THIS SPACE. BUT OTHER THAN THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO COME EAST WEST TO MAIN STREET, WHICH IS THE ROAD THAT RUNS RIGHT ALONGSIDE THE BUILDING. SO THE ACCESS TO CITY

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MAYBE IF IT'S IF IT'S UTILIZED A LOT ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, KIDS OUT HERE OR PEOPLE DOING YOGA AND IT STARTS TO GET TO A POINT WHERE MAINTENANCE IS AN ISSUE AND IT'S NO LONGER USABLE BECAUSE IT'S MUDDY AND IT'S BEEN RAINING, THEN I COULD SEE IT BEING SWITCHED OUT. OKAY. OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU. BARRY, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. AND I'M EXCITED THAT WE'RE GOING TO TELL THE STORY ABOUT MCKINNEY BECAUSE MCKINNEY I MEAN, I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE 68 YEARS AND WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES. SO I THINK THIS IT'S EXCITING. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR HAVING ME. OKAY. THANKS A LOT. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

[CONSENT ITEMS]

OKAY. OKAY. SO WE NEED TO VOTE. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. OKAY. MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER HP20250018. CONSIDER

[Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request by Owner Nancy Jennings for a Certificate of Appropriateness for Demolition of the Detached Shed Located at 1407 W. Louisiana Street]

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LET'S SEE. DO WE HAVE LET'S SEE. DO WE DON'T ASK THE OWNERS TO COME UP AND MAKE A PRESENTATION.

OR WE CAN ASK THEM IF THEY WOULD THEY WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO COME UP AND MAKE ANY SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT OR ADD ANYTHING TO WHAT SHE JUST SAID? WE'D LOVE TO IF YOU'D LIKE TO, IF YOU'D COME UP AND JUST GIVE YOUR NAME AND GOT TO GIVE YOUR ADDRESS. IF YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT TO ADD. WE BOUGHT THIS HOUSE ABOUT A YEAR AGO AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON RENOVATING IT. OH, DON JENNINGS. YEAH, WE CURRENTLY LIVE AT 4806 ARBOR GLEN. WE'VE LIVED IN MCKINNEY FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS NOW, AND WE BOUGHT THIS HOUSE ROUGHLY, ROUGHLY A YEAR AGO, AND WE'RE WORKING ON RENOVATING IT. AND THIS SHED IS JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIT OF AN EYESORE. IT SITS INSIDE OF THE UTILITY EASEMENT, TOO. IT'S CRAZY HOW THEY BUILT THINGS BACK THEN. SO WE JUST LIKE TO REMOVE IT AND MAKE THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, PRETTY. AND SO REALLY THAT'S THAT'S OUR NEXT STEP OKAY. YEAH OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARCHITECTURE PLANS FOR THE CARPORT. WILL THEY BE IN LINE WITH THE HOUSE ITSELF? THEY WILL. WE'RE LOOKING AT LIKE A I WOULD SAY IT'S A CRAFTSMAN STYLE CARPORT. RIGHT. OUR INTENTIONS ARE TO HAVE A DRIVEWAY AND A CARPORT IN THE FUTURE. WE'RE STILL ON THE FENCE WITH IT. WE'RE STILL IN THE DESIGN PHASE OF THAT. BUT WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD UNTIL THE SHED IS REMOVED. WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN OR WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN. BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE STILL MAY BE A CHANCE THAT WE DON'T PUT A CARPORT OR A DRIVEWAY. SO BASICALLY TONIGHT WE FOCUS ON THE DEMO OF IT AND THEN AT, AT. WOULD YOU REMIND ME OF THE PROCESS ONCE THEY GO THROUGH THE DESIGN, DOES THAT WOULD THAT COME TO YOU CASSIE. OR HOW DOES THAT. YEAH. SO OVER THE PROCESS OF COURSE. SO TONIGHT IS JUST THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR DEMOLITION OF THE SHED. THEN THEY HAVE TO DO A SEPARATE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE NEW CARPORT, WHICH WOULD GO BEFORE STAFF. AND THEN IF STAFF COULDN'T COME TO AN AGREEMENT OR COULDN'T APPROVE IT, THEN IT WOULD COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD. OKAY, OKAY. WHAT ARE YOUR RULES FOR PARKING IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A DRIVEWAY? SO THE DRIVEWAY IS ACTUALLY NOT UNDER A HISTORIC PRESERVATION PURVIEW. THAT'S WITH BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND ENGINEERING. IT'S PART OF THE ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL FOR THE DRIVEWAY LENGTH, WHICH IS I THINK 20FT. AND I THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT THEY'RE COMING UP AGAINST IS WHETHER THEY HAVE ENOUGH WIDTH TO GET A DRIVEWAY. WE HAVE PARKING ORDINANCES FOR BEING ABLE TO PARK OFF THE STREET. YES. SO ALL OF THAT IS WITH A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT THAT WOULDN'T BE UNDER THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS ASKING WHAT THEY ARE. SO YOU NEED TWO COVERED SPACES, ONE IN THE HISTORIC AREA. AND THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS THAT YOU CAN GET WITH THAT ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL.

CURRENTLY THERE. YOU KNOW THERE REALLY IS NO PARKING ASIDE FROM IN FRONT ON ON LOUISIANA. RIGHT.

THERE'S PARKING IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE ON LOUISIANA. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF PARKING ON GREER STREET, BUT IT'S JUST IT'S COMPLICATED. LIKE A LOT OF THE HOUSES ARE DOWN HERE. YOU DON'T HAVE A GARAGE AND THERE'S NO PARKING. YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS SEE IT TIME AFTER TIME AGAIN, RIGHT? AND SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THAT. YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE ANY WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS PROPERTY GREAT. IT'S GOING TO BE BEAUTIFUL. AND IT'S GOING TO CONTRIBUTE TO MCKINNEY.

IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT LOOK GOOD BECAUSE YOU COME IN ON OF THE

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I WALK BY YOUR HOUSE QUITE A BIT. Y'ALL HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK TO IT. SO WE HAVE. YES, INDEED. YES. AND WE AND WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE THERE. WE'RE GLAD TO BE THERE. WE LOVE IT. WE REALLY DO. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE. THANK YOU. YEAH. OKAY.

DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY MORE QUESTIONS? DID YOU ALL PAINT IT SINCE YOU'VE BEEN THERE? BECAUSE THE COLORS ARE BEAUTIFUL PAINT. COLOR. IT WAS. WE DID REPAINT IT. THAT'S AMAZING. YEAH, IT REALLY IS. RED. REALLY. POPS. OKAY. DO I DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR DO WE WANT TO DISCUSS IT MORE OR. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE DETACHED SHED. MOTION BY MISS VERDELL, DO I DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND BY MISS ROBERTSON. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SIGNING THOSE MOTIONS IN THE. OKAY, SO JOHANNA NEEDS TO DO THE. AND THEN. SECOND IT.

THAT'S THE MOTION. YEAH. MOTION ON THE FLOOR MOVING. WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS AT THE END OF THE MEETING. YOU KNOW THAT DON'T YOU. OKAY OKAY. SO. ALL RIGHT EVERYBODY VOTE. OKAY. THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING. THANK YOU FOR COMING

[Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request by Robert and Kelly Sheriff for Approval of a Rehabilitation Level Historic Neighborhood Improvement Zone Program Tax Exemption (Level II) for the Property Located at 612 W Virginia Street]

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YES, I BELIEVE ON THE 2023 SURVEY, IT HAD IT LISTED AS AN ADDITION ONTO THE BACK OF THE OF THE HOUSE, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN A MODIFICATION OF THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE THAT THE ADDITION WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THE UPPER RIGHT OR I'M NOT SURE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY, OKAY. WELL, ARE THE OWNERS HERE? THE OWNERS WOULD Y'ALL LIKE TO WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND ADD ANYTHING TO THE.

WE'D LOVE TO WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU COME UP. WE'D LIKE TO HEAR IT. I'D LIKE TO HEAR ALL YOUR IDEAS. GIVE US YOUR NAME. AND I'M ROB SHERIFF. AND IT'S 612 WEST VIRGINIA. SO THE WORK THAT WAS DONE FIVE YEARS AGO WAS ACTUALLY DONE IN THE KIND OF THE MIDDLE OF THE HOUSE. IT WAS ALL ALL INSIDE THE KITCHEN AREA WAS REDONE. OKAY. THAT ADDITION, THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, I THINK WAS DONE 20, 20 SOME YEARS AGO. IS THAT IN PRETTY GOOD CONDITION? IT IS. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. YEAH. THE FOUNDATION, THE FOUNDATION WORK WAS DONE FIVE YEARS AGO BY I THINK TWO OWNERS AGO, BUT IT THEY NEVER FIXED THE DRAINAGE. SO THE SWALE ON THE PROPERTY TAKES THE WATER STRAIGHT UNDER THE HOUSE. OH WOW. SO WHEN WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE LAST SUMMER, IT WAS ALL CATTYWAMPUS AGAIN. SO WE, YOU KNOW, HAD WHO WAS THE ENGINEERING COMPANY? NO, THE ENGINEER. YEAH. ACROSS TOWN DID THE ENGINEERING REPORT AND THERE WERE A BUNCH OF STRUCTURAL BEAMS THAT NEEDED TO BE REPLACED, PLUS A BUNCH OF THE JOISTS ADDED, AND THEN THE WHOLE UNDER STRUCTURE OF THE PADS AND POST RESUMED. SO THAT WAS DONE. BUT WE DID THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH A FULL DRAINAGE PIECE ON THE BACK OF THE HOUSE THAT TAKES ALL THE WATER OUT THE SIDE, SO HOPEFULLY IT'LL STAY DRY NOW. BUT AND NOT PART OF THE ESTIMATE THAT YOU HAD. WE ALSO PART OF THE ENGINEERING REPORT SAID WE HAD TO REDO THE GUTTERS. SO THOSE WERE REPLACED AS WELL. WOW. THAT'S A LOT OF WORK. YEAH WE LOVE THE HOUSE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE 25 YEARS OF COMING OUT OF MELISSA WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE MOVED IN THERE IN 2000 AND EMPTY NESTERS ALMOST. WE HAVE ONE MORE KID AT HOME. HE'S ALMOST DONE WITH SCHOOL AND WE WANTED TO MOVE DOWN TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. WELL, WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU. AND WE LOVE IT WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND SAVING THESE OLD HOMES. YEAH, WE'RE THE HUSKY HOUSE. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE WHAT WE'RE KNOWN BY NOW. YOU'VE ALSO ENDURED THE SIDEWALK REBUILD IN FRONT, TOO. YES, SIR. YEAH. AND EVERYBODY GOES, YOU HAVE THE HUSKIES AND. YEAH.

YEAH, WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT THE BEGINNINGS OF A DECENT PATIO OUT BACK TOO. YEAH, I'LL DO THE FRONT AND THE BACK. HAVE BEAUTIFUL PATIOS. YEAH, YEAH. NICE. HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP TOO WITH YOU. AND WE'LL BE BACK HERE IN A FEW MONTHS. YOU KNOW, WITH A SHED PROJECT AS WELL. WE HAVE A CARRIAGE HOUSE THAT'S FALLING DOWN, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU CAN'T SEE IN ANY OF THESE PICTURES THAT WILL WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT, YOU KNOW, TO INVEST IN THE PROPERTY AND MAKE IT BETTER. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION OR A MOTION BY MR. WEST. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND IS THAT BY MISS KENNEDY OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY MR. WEST. SO JAMES, YOU NEED TO PUT THE. WORD SAID. THERE YOU GO. MOVER. AND THEN CARRY WILL CARRY. KENNEDY WAS SECONDED. DO YOU SEE IT THERE? NOPE. OKAY. WAIT A SECOND. OH, WE MIGHT NEED A CARRY. CLICK YOURS AGAIN. WITHDRAW IT. OKAY. OKAY. NOW TO ADJOURN. OH NO, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT OVER YET.

IT'S NOT OVER. I MEAN THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. IT DOES SAY MOTION TO ADJOURN, BUT. THAT'S THE LAST. JAMES, CAN YOU PRESS THAT BUTTON AGAIN. PRESS IT AGAIN. THE MOTION BUTTON. THERE WE GO.

BUT WE ARE NOT ADJOURNING. I'M SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. I'LL JUST DID IT. DID YOU PRESS IT? THERE WE GO. THERE YOU GO. OKAY. NOW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NOW LET'S VOTE. THERE WE GO. MOTION TO APPROVE.

ALL RIGHT. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. MOTION PASSES OKAY. GOOD LUCK. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR.

YEAH, YEAH. THAT'S EXCITING. GOOD LUCK. YES. ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 252621.

[Consider/Discuss/Act on the Selection of 12 Houses for the 2026 Preserve Historic McKinney Home Recognition Program Calendar]

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OKAY. TO GIVE UP ONE WORD. OKAY. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO CAITLIN IS ACTUALLY PASSING OUT A VOTING SHEET. EXCUSE MY VOICE. I'M GETTING OVER A COLD. YOU'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO BEAR WITH ME. BUT ON THE VOTING SHEET, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION ONCE BECAUSE THERE'S SEVERAL HOUSES TO LOOK AT. THEN THE SECOND TIME AROUND, IF Y'ALL WILL PUT A NUMBER ONE THROUGH FIVE FOR EVERY HOUSE, THEY SHOULD BE IN THE EXACT SAME ORDER. OKAY. SO ON THAT VOTING SHEET, YOU'LL SEE YOU KNOW EACH ADDRESS AND I'LL GO THROUGH IT. I HAVE ANOTHER ONE. DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER PEN? DO YOU NEED THAT? HERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. OH, I HAVE YOUR PEN. DID BETTY TAKE YOUR PEN? I DID TAKE HIS PEN. I GAVE IT TO HER. DOES EVERYBODY HAVE A PEN NOW? YES. WATCH OUT FOR BETTY. YEAH, OKAY.

SO, LIKE I SAID, YOU'RE READY. OKAY, PERFECT. I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH IT ONE TIME. Y'ALL DON'T HAVE TO PUT NUMBERS YET IF YOU DON'T WANT TO, BECAUSE WE'LL GO THROUGH IT TWICE. SO THIS IS JUST AN INTRODUCTION TO THE CALENDAR PROGRAM. IT'S MEANT TO JUST BE A CELEBRATION OF THE HISTORIC HOMES. THEY JUST NEED TO BE WITHIN THE AREA. THEY CAN BE EXISTING OR NEW INFILL STRUCTURES. AND THESE ALL OF THESE ON THE LIST COMPLY WITH THOSE. YES, WE DID LOOK THROUGH THE ALL OF THE NOMINATIONS. I WILL SAY WE GOT SOME LAST MINUTE NOMINATIONS TODAY THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED. SO IF YOU WERE SOMEONE WHO'S NOMINATED TODAY, THOSE ARE PUT INTO THE BATCH FOR NEXT YEAR, BUT YOU WILL SEE THEM LATER. BUT FOR EVALUATING NOMINATIONS, IT'S JUST ABOUT THE PROPERTIES PERCEIVED IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING AREA AND HOW CLOSELY THESE PROPERTIES EMBRACE. EMBRACE THE MISSION STATEMENT OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH IS THERE TO THE SIDE, AND I'LL JUST READ IT OUT TO MAINTAIN MCKINNEY'S DIVERSE ARCHITECTURAL LEGACY, ENRICH THE CULTURAL IDENTITY OF THE COMMUNITY, AND STRENGTHEN ECONOMIC VALUE THROUGH PRESERVATION AND EDUCATION FOR THE PRESENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS. SO NOW I'M GOING TO START GOING THROUGH THE PICTURES. WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS OUR CIRCA THE BUILD DATE, THE ADDRESS, AND THEN THE NUMBER SHOULD CORRESPOND WITH WHERE THEY ARE IN YOUR VOTING SHEET. SO WE'RE STARTING AT ONE. DO YOU NEED A WRITING MATERIAL? BEST SCORE IS 1 OR 5. YOU CAN SCORE ONE THROUGH 555 IS THE TIP TOP RIGHT. THAT'S AMAZING RIGHT.

THANK YOU KATHY I'M SORRY. WHAT FIVE WOULD BE AMAZING. FIVE IS THE BEST SCORE AND ONE FIVE IS THE BEST ONE IS. I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT THIS ONE. OKAY. RIGHT. THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT TO TRY THIS? SHE SAID WE CAN SCORE A SECOND. OKAY? YEAH. FIVE IS THE BEST. AND THEORETICALLY WE'RE LOOKING FOR 12, ONE FOR EACH MONTH. SO MAYBE HAVE 12 THAT ARE FIVE. AND WHEN PEOPLE NOMINATE THEY DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO GIVE A REASON. BUT MOST OF THE REASONS WERE ABOUT EITHER RECENT REHABILITATIONS, RECENT LANDSCAPING OR JUST COMMENTING THAT THEY WERE KIND OF BEAUTIFUL HOMES IN GOOD CONDITION. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE RUNNING THROUGH THE PICTURES AND THEN YOU'LL GO BACK TO YOUR HOME. YES. OKAY, GREAT. I'M JUST RUNNING THROUGH THE PICTURES ONCE AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK THROUGH THEM AGAIN. THAT WAY IF YOU HAVE ANY MAYBES ANYONE'S YOU'RE IFFY ABOUT, WE CAN DO IT A SECOND TIME. CASSIE. YEAH? IS THAT THE CORRECT BUILD DATE? 1989 OR CIRCA 1981 89 FOR THIS HOUSE. SO THIS ONE. WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD DATE. I

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AND AS A NOTE, THEY WILL ALL GET PROFESSIONAL PHOTOS. THESE ARE JUST THE ONES THAT WE TOOK LAST WEEK.

AND THEN YOU WILL SEE ON THE VOTING SHEET SPECIFICALLY THERE ARE SOME WITH ASTERISKS TOWARDS THE BOTTOM. THEY'RE ALL THE KIND OF LAST ONES THAT ARE ON THERE. THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN IN THE CALENDAR PREVIOUSLY, BUT NOT RECENTLY.

OKAY. I BELIEVE THAT'S THE LAST ONE. CAN YOU RESTART THE POWERPOINT FOR ME? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN YOU SAY NOT RECENTLY, LIKE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE VOTING SHEET? I THINK I PUT THE RANGE OF DATES OKAY. PREVIOUSLY FEATURE OKAY. SO IT'S BEEN AT LEAST TEN YEARS.

EXACTLY. OKAY. THAT FELT RECENTLY. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH FOR REAL.

MAKE SURE THAT YOU GOT A NUMBER ON EACH ONE.

OKAY. ARE THERE ANY THAT I NEED TO GO BACK TO. NO. CAN YOU GO BACK TO 801 NORTH COLLEGE? OKAY.

THANK YOU. AND NUMBER 12, 808 WEST TUCKER.

ALL RIGHT. ARE WE GOOD? WE'RE GOOD. OKAY, I GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GENTLEMEN.

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AND THAT WE JUST HAVE TO SEND A LETTER TO THE ADDRESS. AND THAT LETTER KIND OF STATES, HEY, YOU'VE BEEN NOMINATED. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT, PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU WANT TO OPT OUT.

IF WE DON'T HEAR FROM YOU, THEN WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE YOU, BUT ALSO GIVES THEM A PLACE TO GIVE THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN HAVE OPEN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM. ONE OF OUR STRUGGLES LAST YEAR WAS THAT WE ONLY HAD EMAIL ADDRESSES FOR, SAY, FIVE OF THEM OUT OF THE 12.

SO IT WAS REALLY HARD TO COORDINATE WITH ANYONE. AND THEN AS WELL AS THE PHOTOGRAPHER. SO PART OF THE REASON WHY WE'RE VOTING THIS MONTH IS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE PHOTOGRAPHERS CONTRACT AND EVERYTHING READY SO THAT THEY CAN START TAKING PHOTOS. WE'RE HOPING IN MAY, GIVE THEM ALL OF MAY TO TAKE PHOTOS, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TURN EVERYTHING IN STARTING IN JUNE. OKAY, I THINK THERE WAS A DELAY OF THE PHOTOS LAST YEAR. IT WAS KIND OF IN THE HEAT OF THE SUMMER, SO THERE WAS SO LAST YEAR WAS A LITTLE BIT ATYPICAL FOR US. THAT'S WHEN PAULA ASTA LEFT. WE ALSO OUR ADMIN LEFT AT THE SAME TIME. AND THAT WAS WENDY. AND SO WITH BOTH OF THEM LEAVING, THE CONTACTS FOR THE PHOTOGRAPHER AND THE DESIGNER WERE BOTH OF THEM. SO THEN I HAD TO MAKE NEW CONTACTS. IF WE'RE GOING TO VOTE TONIGHT AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE PHOTOS IN MAY, COULD WE LET THEM KNOW PRETTY QUICKLY JUST IN CASE THEY WANT TO TOUCH SOMETHING UP, OR PLANT FLOWERS OR ANY NUMBER OF THINGS LIKE THAT? YEAH. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO WITH BOTH THE LETTER THAT WE'RE SENDING, AS WELL AS ASKING FOR THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION. YOU KNOW, ONCE I SEND THE LETTER, I CAN SAY THAT WE PLAN TO TAKE PHOTOS IN MAY, BUT MY IDEAL IS THAT ALL 12 RESPOND BACK TO ME, GIVE ME THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS, AND THEN I CAN SAY, OH, YOU KNOW, SHE'S DEFINITELY GOING OUT THE SECOND WEEK OF MAY OR THE THIRD WEEK OF MAY, WHATEVER THAT KIND OF COMMUNICATION, I'LL VOLUNTEER TO KNOCK ON THE DOORS IF WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE, IF WE CAN'T SEEM TO GET A HOLD OF PEOPLE. OKAY, WELL, I MAY TAKE YOU UP ON IT, I WILL TOO. YEAH, SURE. OKAY, JUST A THOUGHT. IT MIGHT BE NICE TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS. AND MAYBE WE COULD GET, LIKE, A CARD FOR EACH ONE OF THEM, AND THEN EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD SIGN IT AND JUST SAY, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU DOING THIS. A LOT OF THEY PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO GET READY FOR IT.

ALSO, THERE WAS A WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, OH, HEARD CRAIG THE CHAIR. IS IT KAREN THAT HAD MENTIONED THAT WE HAD DID NOT HAVE THE CITY CALENDAR OR CITY EVENTS ON IT? AND I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE DISCUSSED THAT AT LAST MEETING OR THE MEETING BEFORE. I CAN'T REMEMBER MEETING BEFORE. WE HAVE WE MADE ANY PROGRESS ON THAT OR OR. YEAH. SO THE WAY THAT WE HAVE THE EVENTS IN LAST YEAR'S CALENDAR IS THAT THERE'S A QR CODE FOR EACH DIFFERENT TYPE. SO MAIN STREETS EVENTS HAS ONE CHESTNUT SQUARE HAD A QR CODE AS WELL AS VISIT MCKINNEY HAD A QR CODE. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THAT. BUT THEN ALSO WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING BACK ON TO THE BACK COVER, HAVING THE KIND OF JUST MAJOR EVENTS. SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE YOUR OKTOBERFEST. OR OF COURSE, I BLANKED ON EVERY OTHER EVENT LIKE THE 4TH OF JULY EVENT. STUFF LIKE THAT WOULD BE ON THE BACK COVER. I WONDER IF YOU COULD DO. AND THIS MIGHT BE A SILLY IDEA, BUT I'M WONDERING

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THAT'S GREAT. LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE TO WRITE IT OUT, BUT JUST SOME KIND OF A SYMBOL THAT WOULD TELL YOU, LIKE, OH, THERE'S SOME KIND OF EVENT IN MCKINNEY. LET ME GO CHECK THE QR CODE SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO CLUTTER IT WITH, LIKE, SAYING IT RIGHT ON THE DATE ON THE CALENDAR, BUT YOU JUST HAVE THAT LITTLE TINY SYMBOL. YEAH, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT AND JUST SEE WE CAN DISCUSS IT WITH THE DESIGNER. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT'D BE BIG ENOUGH TO PUT THE QR CODE ON THERE, BUT I THINK THE QR CODE WOULD TAKE THE WHOLE BOX. BUT NO, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN.

SOMETHING TO VISUALLY REPRESENT. YOU NEED TO GO TO THE BACK COVER AND DOUBLE CHECK, JUST LIKE, OH, IT'S SPRING. WOW. THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THING. OKAY, DO WE HAVE 12? DO WE HAVE ANY TIES TO THE. OKAY. SO UNOFFICIALLY, IN CASE THEY DON'T WANT TO DO IT. BUT YOU HAVE GOT. 110 SOUTH BRADLEY. OH OKAY. SO WE GOT 110 SOUTH BRADLEY. AND THAT HAS NEVER BEEN ON. RIGHT CASSIE. THAT'S NICE. 1102 LAMAR THANK YOU I LOVE THAT. 313 NORTH BRADLEY. 808 WEST TUCKER. 207 NORTH BRADLEY. 206 SOUTH COLLEGE. 801 NORTH COLLEGE 1104 SOUTH TENNESSEE.

509 WEST TUCKER 705. NORTH COLLEGE 618. WEST LOUISIANA AND 801 WEST LOUISIANA. OKAY, WELL, THAT CONCLUDES MY ITEM. OKAY. IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. CASSIE. THANKS. OF COURSE.

OKAY. LET'S SEE. WHERE ARE WE? ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE. I'LL MAKE SURE I LOST MY PLACE. OKAY.

LET'S SEE. NEXT. DO WE HAVE ANY GENERAL CITIZEN COMMENTS REGARDING ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA? OH, NO. NONE. OKAY. DO WE HAVE BOARD MEMBERS OR STAFF ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION

[BOARD AND STAFF COMMENTS]

OKAY. YOU CAN LET ME KNOW WHAT A PREFERENCE IS. YOU KNOW, IS IT THURSDAYS AT 530? IF THAT'S A PREFERENCE WE CAN ASK FOR THAT. BUT IT WILL DEPEND ON WHAT CITY SECRETARY HAS AVAILABLE FOR US AS WELL. WHERE DO THOSE GET WHERE ARE THOSE HELD TYPICALLY? CASSIE HERE. LIKE IN THIS ROOM.

OKAY. AND I WOULD JUST SAY NOT THE THURSDAY BEFORE EASTER. RIGHT. BECAUSE I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK PEOPLE WILL BE KIND OF GOING OUT OF TOWN, BUT. RIGHT, OKAY. IF THAT'S OKAY WITH EVERYBODY. OKAY. YEAH. BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE WE ONLY HAVE A MONTH. YEAH. SO MAYBE AVOID THE MONDAY FRIDAY THING IN CASE PEOPLE ARE GOING AWAY AND JUST STICK TO THE TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY AND MOST OF THE THURSDAYS. THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE A SUGGESTION TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY IF AVAILABLE. YEAH. TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY, BUT JUST NOT MONDAY, THURSDAY OR THE THURSDAY BEFORE GOOD FRIDAY. OKAY OKAY OKAY. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING? I WANT TO Y'ALL WANT TO STAY LONGER? I MOVE TO ADJOURN. OKAY. BYE BYE, MISS KENNEDY. DO YOU. CASSIE, DID YOU NEED TO ADD ANYTHING? NO. SORRY. OKAY. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. OKAY. SECOND BY MISS ROBERTSON. OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. AND IT IS. WHAT TIME IS IT? 635. THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 635.

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