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I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER ITS AUGUST 12TH, 2025. IT'S 6:02 P.M. WELCOME TO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. THE COMMISSIONERS SEATED BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING HAVE ALL BEEN APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND REQUESTS THAT WE ALL BE RESPECTFUL AND STICK TO THE CONCISE ON THE ISSUES. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE COMPLETE A SPEAKER CARD AND TURN IT IN OVER TO OUR LEFT PRIOR TO THE ITEM BEING CALLED.

WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN TO SPEAK, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND PLEASE LIMIT YOUR REMARKS TO THREE MINUTES. YOU MAY SPEAK ONLY ON ONE ITEM, ONE TIME ON EACH ITEM. TONIGHT I WILL ADVISE YOU WHETHER YOU'LL BE HEARD ONLY BY THIS COMMISSION OR PASSED ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL DECISION. YOUR OPINIONS ARE IMPORTANT TO US AND BECOME A PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD. WE ALL WANT TO SERVE THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITIZENS OF MCKINNEY. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON NONPUBLIC HEARING AGENDA ITEMS? NONPUBLIC HEARING AGENDA ITEMS. SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD, WE'LL NOW MOVE

[CONSENT ITEMS]

TO CONSENT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS OR MOTION ON THE CONSENT ITEMS, SUCH AS THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING? 2530 39. MOTIONS. MOTION TO ACCEPT AND APPROVE.

MOTION BY DEIDRA TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN. SECOND. WAS THAT YOU, JAMES? NO, SIR. WHO? SECOND? I THINK IT WAS MR. WHATLEY. I DID. THERE YOU ARE. DOWN THERE. YEAH. MR. WILEY.

CHARLES, BY SECOND COMMISSIONER WILEY. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. VOTE IS 7 TO 0, AND THE MINUTES

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Zone the Subject property to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to Allow Single Family and Multi-Family Residential Uses and Modify the Development Standards, Located Approximately 140 Feet South of Saffira Way and Approximately 1,350 Feet West of Trinity Falls Parkway (REQUEST TO BE TABLED)]

ARE APPROVED. WE'LL NOW MOVE NEXT TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEM THAT HAS PUBLIC HEARINGS ATTACHED TO THEM. WE HAVE OUR FIRST ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 2500350. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACT ON A REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO PD. IT'S LOCATED 140FT SOUTH OF SEPHORA WAY, APPROXIMATELY 150FT WEST OF TRINITY FALLS. THIS ITEM HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO BE TABLED. JAKE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. GOOD EVENING.

COMMISSION JAKE BENNETT, PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. SO WE ARE, LIKE YOU SAID, REQUESTING THAT THIS ITEM BE TABLED IN THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONTINUED TO THE NEXT MEETING ON 826. DUE TO A NOTIFICATION ERROR. AND I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. JAKE. ANY QUESTIONS OF JAKE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION OR MOTION? MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE DISCUSSION AND MOVE TO TABLE ITEM 250035. DUE TO A NOTIFICATION ERROR. WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE ANY RESPONSE. WE DON'T HAVE TO OPEN IT TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU. TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING. YES. TABLE THE ITEM AND CONTINUE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. SO MOTION TO CONTINUE THE YES. CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TABLE, THE ITEM TO THAT SPECIFIC DATE. OKAY. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY DEIDRA TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT OUR NEXT MEETING. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GINA. ANY FINAL DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE, PLEASE. THE VOTE IS 7 TO 0 TO TABLE THE

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit Request for a Drive-Through Restaurant (McDonalds), Located at 3300 Virginia Parkway]

ITEM AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT OUR NEXT MEETING. LET'S MOVE NEXT TO ITEM NUMBER 2250005 SUPP. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACT ON A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A DRIVE THRU RESTAURANT. MCDONALD'S, LOCATED AT 3300 VIRGINIA PARKWAY. STUART. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN. GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. STUART STORY, PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A SUP REQUEST. REQUEST FOR A MCDONALD'S DRIVE THRU RESTAURANT AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF HARDIN AND VIRGINIA PARKWAY. THE TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST OF THIS PROPERTY IS RETAIL AND RESTAURANT USES. TO THE EAST

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THERE IS BONNIE WENK PARK AND ACROSS FROM VIRGINIA PARKWAY. TO THE SOUTH, THERE IS AN INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THIS REQUEST WAS BROUGHT BEFORE YOU PREVIOUSLY, AND THE APPLICANT WORKED CLOSELY WITH STAFF TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL CONCERNS OVER QUEUING NEAR VIRGINIA PARKWAY. BY ORIENTATING, THE LAYOUT TO THE WEST AND DISTANCING THE ENTRY TO THE RESTAURANT FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY, ALLOWING ANY POTENTIAL QUEUING TO HAPPEN WITHIN THE PARKING LOT. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED SUP.

I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU STUART. QUESTIONS. STUART, COULD YOU WALK US THROUGH THAT JUST ONE MORE TIME ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE IN THE LAYOUT? I CAN SEE IT UP HERE NOW. SO THEY HAVE ORIENTED THE LAYOUT TOWARDS THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND SO THE ENTRY INTO THE PROPERTY WILL BE IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER. DISTANCING THE ENTRY FURTHER AWAY FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND SO IF THERE WERE TO BE ANY POTENTIAL QUEUING IT WOULD HAPPEN INTO THE PARKING LOT. WHEN BEFORE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN CLOSER TO THE ENTRY TO THE COMMERCIAL BLOCK NEAR WHERE VIRGINIA PARKWAY IS. AND SO BECAUSE IT'S A VERY HIGH TRAFFIC THOROUGHFARE, THAT WAS THE CONCERN BEFORE. SO WE'VE TAKEN THEY'VE TAKEN THE TRAFFIC FURTHER AWAY FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY. OKAY. ARE THEY GOING TO BE EXITING ONTO VIRGINIA? KIND OF ALMOST RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE SENIOR CITIZEN. SO THEY'RE THAT ENTRY INTO INTO THE BONNIE WENK PARK AND THE COMMERCIAL BLOCK IS ALREADY IN EXISTENCE. AND SO THAT WOULD REMAIN HOWEVER, THE ENTRY TO THE RESTAURANT ITSELF WOULD BE FURTHER AWAY. BUT IT IS A. SO THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT CREATING ANY NEW INGRESS EGRESS USING THE TWO EXISTING. THAT'S A PART OF THE SHOPPING CENTER AND THE PART OF THE PARK. CORRECT. WITH THE ADDITION OF A RIGHT TURN LANE BASED ON THE PLAN BEFORE US. CORRECT? YES. THERE WILL BE A DIESEL LANE ADDED RIGHT THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU.

STUART, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, I BELIEVE SO. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS LESLIE FORD. I AM THE APPLICANT AND MY ADDRESS IS 1008 MACON STREET, FORT WORTH, TEXAS. 76102. AND AS STUART SAID, WE TOOK THE INFORMATION THAT WE GOT FROM COUNCIL AND THE FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM THEM AND REALLY INCORPORATED THAT INTO THIS DESIGN. SO WE WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO I HAVE A QUESTION. SO WERE THE WILL THERE BE ACCESS FROM THE DRIVEWAY THAT COMES FROM THE DOG PARK? DOG PARK INTO YOUR PARKING LOT OR WILL THERE BE. I'M ASSUMING THE DOG PARK IS IN THE PARK NEXT TO US. OKAY. YEAH. SO THERE WILL NOT BE. IF YOU SEE THERE, THERE'S ACTUALLY A THOROUGHFARE THAT GOES THROUGH THE FIRE LANE THAT IS GOING TO JUST CUT THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROPERTY THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN STILL HAVE THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES FROM THE WALMART, OR EVEN TRAFFIC THAT'S KIND OF STACKED UP INTO THE PARK, STILL HAVE THEIR THOROUGHFARE, STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO THROUGH. BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THERE IS THAT THE ENTRANCES ARE ACTUALLY, AS STUART SAID, OFF OF THE NORTHWEST, THAT'S THE MAIN ENTRANCE. AND THEN THE OTHER ENTRANCES CAN COME FROM THE ENTRY FROM VIRGINIA. YOU JUST HAVE TO KIND OF MAKE A CIRCLE THERE TO GET DOWN INTO THE PROPERTY. OKAY, OKAY. SO THE ONE THERE THAT'S KIND OF AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, THAT'S JUST AN EXIT. THAT'S NOT A ENTRANCE WHERE IT SAYS DRIVE THROUGH.

IT'S DUAL ACCESS. IT IS ACCESS. IT'S FULL ACCESS. OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I WASN'T SURE BASED ON THE ARROW. YEAH, THERE'S A LITTLE ARROW IN FRONT OF THE DRIVE THROUGH SIGN. IT'S JUST KIND OF HARD TO SEE UNLESS YOU. OH, OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S. GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ANYBODY WANTING TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? SEEING NONE. COULD WE HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? MAKE A

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MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM. OKAY. RUSSELL GOT A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. I SECOND THAT MOTION. IS THAT YOU, JAMES? EITHER WAY, I'M SORRY. JAMES. YEAH, AND A SECOND. LET'S HAVE A VOTE, PLEASE. WOULD YOU MIND LETTING. CAN I GET A RECALL OF THE FIRST AND SECOND MOTION? IS THERE A SECOND? IT WAS. MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE. THE ITEM PASSES AT A VOTE OF 7 TO 0, AND WILL BE FORWARDED ON TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION ON SEPTEMBER THE 2ND, 2025. ALL

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit Request for a Passenger Vehicles Fuel Sales (Movement Convenience Store), Located on the Southeast Corner of Coit Road and Virginia Parkway]

RIGHT, NEXT, LET'S MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS NUMBER 250006 SUPP. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACT ON A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR PASSENGER VEHICLE FUEL SALES. LOCATED AT SOUTHEAST CORNER OF COURT AND VIRGINIA PARKWAY. STUART AGAIN. YES.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN STUART. AGAIN. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO REDUCE THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT FROM A FUEL PUMP TO A RESIDENTIAL USE OR ZONE. THE. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF POINT ROAD AND VIRGINIA PARKWAY. IT IS TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST. IT IS ADJACENT TO RETAIL AND RESTAURANT USES THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING DEVELOPED, AND ACROSS FROM VIRGINIA PARKWAY TO THE NORTH, THERE IS AN EXISTING GAS STATION, TO THE WEST IS ACROSS FROM COIT ROAD IS THE. THE RESIDENTIAL. THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED IN THE CITY OF FRISCO. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO INCREASE THE LANDSCAPING. THE TREE PLANTINGS IN THE STREET BUFFER ALONG COIT ROAD. FROM OUR TYPICAL ONE TREE PER 40 LINEAR FEET TO AN INCREASED ONE TREE PER 25 LINEAR FEET. GIVEN THAT THE TWO USES ARE SEPARATED BY MAJOR ARTERIAL ROADWAY AS COIT ROAD, AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED MITIGATION WITH INCREASED LANDSCAPING AND THE FACT THAT THE REDUCTION IS A SMALL ONE FROM 250FT TO 230FT, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED SUP. I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, STEWART. QUESTIONS. I THINK WE'RE ALL GOOD WITH THAT. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES. HELLO, MY NAME IS RAPHAEL RUIZ. I'M AT 1019 LOUETTA ROAD, SUITE 103. HOUSTON, TEXAS, 77070. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I GUESS WE'RE ALL INFORMED ON IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. THIS ITEM ALSO HAS A PUBLIC HEARING. DOES ANYONE WISH TO COME FORWARD TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ANYBODY WANTING TO COME FORWARD SPEAK. I SEE, MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. OKAY. JAMES MAKES A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. SECOND. WELL, THAT WAS A BUNCH OF PEOPLE. LET'S GET JESSE. JESSE. JESSE, PUSH YOUR BUTTON. PLEASE. CAST YOUR VOTE. THAT MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM DID PASS WITH A VOTE OF 7 TO 0. BE FORWARDED ON TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION ON SEPTEMBER 2ND, 2025. WE'RE MOVING THROUGH OUR AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. ITEM

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “ML” Light Manufacturing District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to Allow for Multi-Family and Non-Residential Uses and Modify the Development Standards, Located on the Northwest Corner of North Tennessee Street and East Heard Street]

NUMBER 250145 Z2. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACT ON A REQUEST TO

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REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM LIGHT MANUFACTURING TO PD. GENERALLY TO ALLOW FOR MULTIFAMILY AND NONRESIDENTIAL USES. LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF NORTH TENNESSEE STREET AND EAST THIRD STREET. ARI. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. THIS PROPOSED REQUEST WAS ACTUALLY PRESENTED AT OUR LAST PNC MEETING. IF YOU RECALL, ON JULY 22ND OF THIS YEAR, BASED ON THE PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST, THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS BROUGHT FORTH. THE APPLICANT SINCE THEN HAS ATTEMPTED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. AS A REFLECTION OF THOSE MEETINGS WITH THOSE OWNERS, THE APPLICANT HAS COME BACK WITH SOME REVISED CHANGES. THIS INCLUDES THE DENSITY WHICH WAS INITIALLY PROPOSED AT SORRY I WAS RUNNING, WHICH WAS INITIALLY PROPOSED AT 90 UNITS.

RESIDENTIAL UNITS MAX CAP FOR THE OVERALL SITE. SINCE THEN, THE APPLICANT HAS REDUCED THOSE UNITS TO 79 UNITS FOR THE OVERALL SITE. PARKING WISE, THE APPLICANT HAD PROPOSED ONE PARKING SPACE PER UNIT WITH A 20% ENCLOSED, WHICH MEANS EITHER COVERED GARAGE OR SOME KIND OF ENCLOSED PARKING STRUCTURE, AND THEN ONE PARKING SPACE FOR 500FT■S FOR NON RESIDENTIAL USE.

SINCE THEN, THE APPLICANT HAS MODIFIED THAT PARKING RATIO TO 1.17 PARKING SPACES PER UNIT, BUT ALL OTHER REQUIREMENTS REMAIN THE SAME. LASTLY, A SCREENING DEVICE. THE APPLICANT HAD ORIGINALLY PROPOSED A SIX FOOT SCREENING DEVICE OF TUBULAR STEEL OR WROUGHT IRON FENCE WITH MASONRY COLUMN SPACED AT 20FT AND CANOPY TREES ALONG THE PERIMETER. THE APPLICANT HAS NOW COME AND REVISED TO A SIX FOOT LELAND TREE, SPACED EVERY FIVE FEET ALONG THE ADJACENCY OF RESIDENTIAL USES OR ZONING DISTRICT TO THE NORTH, AND THEN MAINTAIN AT EIGHT FEET IN HEIGHT AS A PROPOSED SCREENING DEVICE. THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED 15 LETTERS OF SUPPORT THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA. ONE LETTER OF OPPOSITION WITH EIGHT SIGNATURES. AND THEN JUST RECENTLY, I RECEIVED TODAY ONE LETTER OF OPPOSITION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU AND ONE LETTER OF SUPPORT. SO THESE ARE THE TWO SHEETS THAT YOU HAVE JUST NOW. I PROVIDED A DOCUMENT WITH SIGNATURES AND THIS AND I MAY ALLOW THE CITIZEN TO KIND OF ADDRESS THE INFORMATION ON THAT.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS THEIR PROPOSED LETTER FOR FORMAL PROTEST. BUT GIVEN THAT IT'S NOT NOTARIZED, THIS IS INFORMATIONAL INFORMATION PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY. IN ADDITION, WE THROUGH OUR PORTAL, WE ALSO RECEIVED FOUR COMMENTS THROUGH THE ONLINE COMMENT PORTAL THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA. AND THESE ALSO, INFORMATION DOES NOT INCLUDE ANYTHING THAT MAY HAVE DIRECTLY BEEN PROVIDED TO OUR COUNCIL OR COMMISSIONS. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW. AT THIS TIME, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED REZONE REQUEST AND I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU ARI. YES, QUESTIONS ARE ALREADY ON THIS AS IT RELATES TO THE PARKING VARIANCE.

TECHNICALLY, I MEAN, USUALLY IT WOULD BE AT 1.75, RIGHT? SO UNDER OUR CODE WE DO REQUIRE 1.75 FOR MULTIFAMILY PARKING. SINCE THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSING MORE OF AN MTC STANDARDS TO ALIGN WITH THE MTC HERE TO THE SOUTH, TYPICALLY WE SEE THE STANDARD OF ONE PARKING SPACE PER DWELLING UNIT TO KIND OF MIMIC SIMILAR STANDARDS TO EXISTING MULTIFAMILY IN THE AREA, INCLUDING DAVIS AT THE SQUARE AND THE HERITAGE. OKAY. THANK YOU. REVIEW AGAIN THE SCREENING BETWEEN THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL ON THE WEST SIDE THERE. WHAT'S THE PROPOSED SCREENING. YEAH RIGHT THERE. YEAH. SO EVERYTHING YOU SEE HERE I'M GOING TO TRY TO MARK IT FOR YOU. SO EVERYTHING HERE AROUND ALONG RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY WHICH IS IT'S EXISTING USES OF RESIDENTIAL. HE'S PROPOSING LELAND CANOPY TREES AT SIX FOOT IN HEIGHT. USUALLY THOSE ARE LIKE SHRUBS. THEY CAN GROW SHRUBS AND THEY CAN CREATE AN OPAQUE WHICH KIND OF OUTLINES ALIGNS WITH OUR SCREENING REQUIREMENTS, SOMETHING THAT WITHSTANDS TIME, THAT PROVIDES OPACITY, THAT ALSO PROVIDES SOME SCREENING. SO THIS WOULD BE PROPOSED ALONG THIS PERIMETER.

AND THESE WOULD BE ALLOCATED AT ONE CANOPY TREE PER FIVE FEET FOR FIVE FEET TO ALLOW THAT EXPANSION OF THAT GROWTH OF THOSE TREES. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO A MASONRY FENCE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. OR SO I WILL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO KIND OF OUTLINE THE REASON FOR THE CHANGE, BUT THAT'S THE PROPOSED INTENT. AND STAFF AT THIS TIME HAS NO CONCERNS WITH THE

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REQUEST. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? BOTH BUILDINGS WILL BE THREE STORY. IS THAT CORRECT? THE TWO BUILDINGS. THERE'S THREE I THINK. ARE THERE THREE. SO IT WOULD BE. YEAH. MAX THREE STORIES AT 40FT OKAY. OH I MISSED THAT ONE. YOU REFERENCED THE MTC SINCE IT'S NOT IN THE MTC BUT BUT PRETTY CLOSE WITHIN THE MTC AS FAR AS THAT PARKING RATIO IS CONCERNED. DOES THAT HOLD TRUE EVEN IF THERE IS BOTH A COMMERCIAL AND A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT? YES. SO WITH HERITAGE, IT HAS THE RESIDENTIAL AT THE TOP AND THE COMMERCIAL IN THE BOTTOM. SO IT MIMICS THE ONE PARKING SPACE PER UNIT AND THE ONE PER 500 FOR THE COMMERCIAL SITE, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO THE EMPTY WELL WHICH IT IS IN THE MTC. SO IT FOLLOWS THE MTC STANDARDS. BUT. IN THAT SITUATION WITHIN THE MTC, THERE'S A LOT MORE LIKE STRUCTURED PARKING AND OTHER PARKING OPTIONS IN CLOSER PROXIMITY. IS THAT WOULD YOU AGREE? SO I'M GOING TO LET THE APPLICANT KIND OF TALK ON THAT. BUT ON THIS ONE WE ARE SEEING ALSO SOME OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG NORTH TENNESSEE, WHICH ALSO WOULD CONTRIBUTE SOME PARKING SPACE ALONG THOSE AREA.

MAKES SENSE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. I THINK WE'RE ALL GOOD ARI. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. SIR, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS JASON ROSE. I RESIDE AT 2120 COSMOS WAY IN ARGYLE, TEXAS. AND, ARI, DO YOU HAVE MY SLIDESHOW? MAKE SURE I CAN GET THAT GOING. OKAY? BEAR WITH ME. I WANT TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS AND SHOW YOU SOME OF THE CHANGES. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU GUYS PROVIDED TO TABLE IT WITH THE RESIDENTS. I TRIED TO CATCH AS MANY AS I COULD. SOMETIMES YOU MISS SOME, SO I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH SOME OF THEM. WHAT I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THIS IS THE CURRENT EXISTING ZONING OF THE PARCEL. IF YOU LOOK HERE, MULTI LIGHT MANUFACTURING ZONING IS PRIMARILY MAKE SURE THAT'S WORKING OKAY. WELL I DON'T REALLY PICK UP ON THE SCREEN. BUT IF YOU LOOK TO THE NORTHEAST THE LIGHT MANUFACTURING PURPLE ZONING THAT'S MY POINT IS THIS GUY GOT A LASER ON IT TO YOU THIS LITTLE BRIGHTER. YEAH. BUT IT DOESN'T PICK UP ON THAT SCREEN. THAT'S FINE. YEAH. YOU CAN. OH OKAY. AND THEN JUST CLEAR OKAY. SO IF YOU LOOK LIKE THE LIGHT MANUFACTURING ZONING PRIMARILY EXISTS OVER IN THIS SECTOR. AND IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE DOWNTOWN YOU GOT ALL YOUR, YOUR LITTLE COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSES AND STUFF OVER THERE. SO THIS IS KIND OF A SPOT ZONING THAT EXISTS ON THAT WHOLE BLOCK FROM KENTUCKY TO TENNESSEE. AROUND IT IS GENERAL BUSINESS ZONING. AND THEN THE RESIDENTIAL STARTS OVER FURTHER TO THE WEST. SO THAT'S WHAT THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED. IF YOU LOOK AT THE. THIS IS WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY ON THE PROPERTY WHEN I PURCHASED IT. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE FOR A DECADE OR MORE. NOW TAKE AWAY THE FENCE. BUT THIS IS A BUILDING THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY USES. SO WHEN I PURCHASED THIS, THIS WAS THE STATE OF THE PROPERTY FOR AT LEAST A DECADE.

IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE PICTURES. SO I WANT YOU TO SEE WHAT I'M WHAT I'VE TAKEN ON.

NOW, THIS IS THE TOWN CENTER STUDY THAT WAS CONDUCTED BY THE CITY. IT'S NOT MY STUDY. THIS WAS DONE BACK IN 2008. AND IT SPECIFICALLY SPEAKS TO THIS PROPERTY. AND IT IDENTIFIES THAT BLOCK, SPECIFICALLY. THE PRIMARY CONCEPT RECOMMENDED ALONG THIS PORTION OF THE CORRIDOR IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF A NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE BLOCK BETWEEN KENTUCKY, TENNESSEE, HEARD AND MCCAULEY. THAT'S THIS BLOCK. THIS BLOCK WOULD HAVE BOTH MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND GROUND FLOOR LOW INTENSITY RETAIL TO SERVE THE IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIAGRAM ON THE VERY BOTTOM SPECIFICALLY, THAT SITE IS BASICALLY SHOWN ON YOU GUYS'S TOWN CENTER STUDY AS A URBAN MIXED USE DEAL WITH PARKING, KIND OF SITUATED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WHOLE BLOCK, SO FACING KENTUCKY, FACING TENNESSEE. SO IT'S IN CONFORMANCE KIND OF WITH WHAT THE STUDY RECOMMENDED. AND THIS PART OF THE STUDY, IT DENOTES THAT PARTICULAR LITTLE BLOCK AS MIXED USE. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S PROBABLY PRIMARILY RELATED TO

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THE FACT THAT RIGHT NOW IT'S ZONED LIGHT MANUFACTURING. AND THE OTHER USES THAT COULD GO THERE BY RIGHT NOW. WHAT THIS THIS DIAGRAM REPRESENTS IS WHAT THEY CALL TRADE AREA RADIUS ANALYSIS AND WALKABLE IMPACT. IN TEXAS, A TYPICAL PERSON WILL WALK IN DECENT WEATHER UP TO APPROXIMATELY HALF A MILE IN HOT, HOT WEATHER. A QUARTER MILE WHERE THE RED DENOTES YOU'RE WALKING IN THE SUMMER AND THE YELLOW IS MAXIMUM WALKING DISTANCE WHEN TEMPERATURES ALLOW. THAT GETS THESE PEOPLE TO THE SQUARE, AND IT ALSO GETS THEM ALL THE WAY TO 380. SO WHAT I DO HERE PROVIDES ADDITIONAL SUPPORT AND BENEFIT TO THE REDEVELOPMENT AND THE CONTINUED IMPROVEMENT OF NORTH TENNESSEE STREET, WHICH YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH. IF YOU DRIVE DOWN THAT STREET, IT'S PROBABLY THE AND I DON'T WANT TO BE KIND ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S PROBABLY THE WORST DRIVE IN ALL OF DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY. AND IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR DECADES. REGARDING THE SCREENING, I MET WITH SOME OF SEVERAL OF THE RESIDENTS, AND WHERE THE SCREENING CAME ABOUT IS THERE'S A STREET DOWN HERE THAT TEES INTO TENNESSEE STREET CALLED EAST MIDWAY STREET, AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE TWO NEIGHBORS WAS, SOMETIMES WE GET LIGHT SPILL FROM PEOPLE COMING DOWN THAT STREET TO TENNESSEE STREET, AND I WANT I MADE HIM AWARE THAT THE TIE IN OF THE ENTRY IS REGULATED BY ENGINEERING, AND THAT COMES FROM TYPICAL CONFLICTS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE IF YOU HAVE OFFSET ENTRYWAYS WHERE YOU'VE GOT TWO PEOPLE MAKING LEFT HAND TURNS AND IT'S NOT LINED UP, THAT CREATES TRAFFIC ISSUES. SO NO MATTER WHAT GOES HERE, IT KIND OF REQUIRES THAT TO BE THE ENTRY ON THE NORTH SIDE, BECAUSE THERE'S OFFSET THINGS. YOU REALLY YOU'RE LOCKED INTO THAT. SO WHAT I DID IS I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT WHAT WE COULD DO TO HEAVILY SCREEN, TO BLOCK THE LIGHT OF THE SPILL OF THE LIGHTS THAT EXIST, WHAT MIGHT BE ADDED, BUT ALSO SOME OF THE NOISE AND A LEYLAND CYPRESS. THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF A LEYLAND CYPRESS KIND OF BUFFER. REAL THICK, DENSE FOLIAGE. YOU CAN MANAGE THAT TO AN EIGHT FOOT HIGH TO TEN FOOT HEIGHT. WHAT I LIKE ABOUT IT IN THIS USAGE IS THERE'S A LOT OF TREES ALONG THESE PROPERTY LINES THAT ARE ALREADY EXISTING. IT DOESN'T GO IN WITH A FOUNDATION AND AFFECT DRAINAGE, AFFECT THE TREE ROOTS. THE TREES CAN GROW IN HARMONY WITH THIS TYPE OF A BUFFER. AND I'VE GOT A FIVE FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER. SO THIS SHRUBBERY IS GOING TO BE 4 OR 5FT THICK. SO IF I HAD COLUMNS AND WROUGHT IRON THERE, YOU WOULDN'T SEE IT ANYWAY. SO TO PROVIDE A GREEN SCAPE THIS WOULD SWALLOW ANYTHING. I TRIED TO BUILD THERE AND BE SO DENSE THAT IT WOULD ALMOST BE A MOOT POINT TO PROVIDE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THIS. SO THAT WAS A KIND OF A IN A DISCUSSION WITH THE NEIGHBOR. AND I'VE GOT SUPPORT FROM SEVERAL OF THE NEIGHBORS OF USING THAT. IN FACT, I FLAT OUT ASKED GARY GUTIERREZ, WHO OWNS THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY BACK THERE, AND HIS PREFERENCE IS A GREEN SCREEN FOR MY SITE. IT HELPS BRING IN SOME GREENERY AND I'M CREATING A RESIDENTIAL FEEL. I LIKE THE GREEN AS WELL, SO THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF USING THAT AS A SCREENING DEVICE. IT BLOCKS THE LIGHT, IT BLOCKS THE NOISE. OKAY. MY PROJECT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER HAMMACK HAD LAST TIME IS HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU FEEL THIS COMMERCIAL SUCCESS WILL GO? MY WHOLE PROJECT IS REALLY HINGED AROUND THIS FLORIST. I'VE OFFERED TO SEVERAL OF THE LOCAL FLORISTS, AND I'M IN DISCUSSION WITH THEM TO GIVE THEM THE SPACE FOR FREE AND THE UTILITIES FOR FREE. THE REASON DOING THAT IS BECAUSE OF A SMALL FLORIST. NOW, THE COMPETITION AND THE DIFFICULTY OF GETTING SOMEONE TO GO MAKE A VIABLE BUSINESS AND PAYING HIGH RENT IS VERY DIFFICULT. BUT IT'S SO CRITICAL TO MY DEVELOPMENT. I WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH HOW THAT IS AND HOW I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THAT. FOR ME, IT CREATES THAT VIBE OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO CREATE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS A UNIQUE STREETSCAPE ON TENNESSEE THAT PLAYS OFF OF THE SQUARE. AND IF I DO IT RIGHT, I BELIEVE I GET THE HIGHER RENTS, I BELIEVE I GET THE COMMERCIAL SUCCESS, BUT I BELIEVE IT ALL STARTS WITH THIS ANCHOR WAYS THAT I'VE INCORPORATED THAT IN MY DEVELOPMENT. I'M GOING TO HAVE STREET PLANTERS THAT I MAINTAIN IN WATER, SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE SQUARE. TO GIVE THAT COLOR, I'M GOING TO HAVE ANTIQUE STREET LAMPS WITH FLOWER BASKETS THAT THE DEVELOPER MAINTAINS, AND I'M GOING TO CARRY IT OVER INTO THE INTERIOR OF THE UNITS. THIS IS WHERE I'M STUDYING. IF SOMEBODY MOVES IN OR PURCHASES OR RENTS A UNIT, I PROVIDE THEM WITH LITTLE MASON JARS AND A THAT'S THE BACK WALL OF A SINK, WHERE IN ADDITION TO CABINETRY, I'LL HAVE THIS ABILITY FOR THESE PEOPLE TO MOVE IN. THEY'LL HAVE A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR THE FLORIST TO, TO MAKE THAT FIRST INTRODUCTION.

BECAUSE I NEED TO SUPPORT THAT FLORIST. I NEED THAT FLORIST TO WORK FOR MY DEVELOPMENT TO BE WHAT I WANT IT TO BE. ON THE OUTSIDE FOR MY BALCONIES. I'VE CAREFULLY DESIGNED THESE BALCONIES TO INCLUDE DRAINAGE. YOU'LL SEE THE GUTTER SYSTEMS IN THE TOP TWO DRAWINGS THAT

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CAPTURE THE WATER. SO WHEN THE FLOWERS ARE BEING WATERED BY AUTOMATIC WATERING THAT I WILL PROVIDE, THE WATER IS NOT FLOWING DOWN THE FACADE OF MY BUILDINGS AND DRIPPING ON MY PAVING PAVEMENT. I'M LOOKING AT HOW I CAREFULLY PUT THE PLANTERS IN THERE SO NOBODY'S PLANTERS DROPPING ON PEOPLE BELOW. THIS HAS REALLY BEEN STUDIED BECAUSE THIS IS HOW IMPORTANT THAT THIS FLORIST IS TO ME, TO THE OVERALL THEME OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO CREATE HERE AND WHAT I BELIEVE WILL MAKE THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT OF THIS SUCCESSFUL. THESE ARE MY VISION FOR THE INTERIOR OF THESE UNITS. I'VE GOT A MIX OF ABOUT TEN DIFFERENT FLOOR PLANS. THEY'RE ALL ONE BEDROOM. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR UNITS, YOUR MULTIFAMILY CODE COVERS ALL UNITS, WHETHER IT'S A FIVE BEDROOM APARTMENT, A TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT, MY TARGET MARKET HERE, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE GEOMETRY OF THE SITE DROVE THIS DEVELOPMENT, ALL BEDROOMS, SINGLE PEOPLE WANT TO BE IN THE SQUARE. THAT'S THE TARGET AUDIENCE I'M AFTER. AND WE AND THAT TYPE OF SCENARIO, I BELIEVE THAT I BELIEVED THAT THE ONE WAS ADEQUATE, ADEQUATE. I WORKED SOME OF MY FLOOR PLANS INTO BIGGER OFFERINGS TO INCREASE THAT NUMBER. SO I MADE SOME CONCESSIONS. WHAT I FELT LIKE I COULD DO TO KEEP THE QUALITY OF WHAT I'M AFTER. AND YOU GUYS REMEMBER THE MODEL. BUT THIS KIND OF DENOTES MY ARCHITECTURAL CONCEPT, WHERE I'M TRYING TO PULL IN THE FLOWERS, INTO THE BALCONIES, INTO THE STREETSCAPE, ONTO THE LIGHT POLES. I'M REALLY THINKING THAT THIS FLORIST BECOMES THE KEY TO THE WHOLE THING, AND THAT'S WHY I'M WILLING TO GIVE AWAY THE SPACE, BECAUSE THAT, I BELIEVE, WILL COME BACK TO ME, ESPECIALLY LONG TERM, TO HAVE THAT. HERE'S MY FACADE AND SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T QUITE SEE IN THIS ILLUSTRATION. ALL THE DOWNSTAIRS WINDOWS ARE ACTUALLY RECESSED TWO FOOT TO ALLOW FOR PLANTING SHELVES ON ALL THOSE WINDOW LEDGES. SO NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF ALL THESE PEOPLE PUTTING THEIR FLOWERS ON THE BALCONIES, AND THOSE SET UP TO BE WATERED, YOU HAVE FLOWERS DOWN BELOW AT THE WINDOW SILLS, ALSO AT THE PAVING. SO I WANT TO COVER THIS WHOLE THING WITH FLOWERS, AND I'M GOING TO PROVIDE THE BULK OF IT TO GET IT GOING. ALL THESE BALCONIES WILL BE THAT ARE HERE ARE ACCESSIBLE FROM THE INSIDE. THEY'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE PLANNERS. IN FACT, WHEN SOMEBODY COMES INTO THESE UNITS, THEY'LL BE GIVEN THE FLOWER BASKETS. AND HERE'S SOME BASKETS. GO, GO TO WORK. HERE'S A DRAINAGE WATER SYSTEM, A DRAINAGE SYSTEM. I WANT THIS TO BE COLORFUL. AND I'LL GO THROUGH THESE QUICKLY. YOU DON'T NEED TO SEE THE REPETITIVENESS.

OKAY? THIS IS MY STREETSCAPE. I'M PAYING FOR ANTIQUE PAVERS. AND I'VE REALLY WORKED HARD WITH ENGINEERING BECAUSE WHAT I'M TRYING TO CREATE IS A REFLECTION OF THE SQUARE. I'M TRYING TO PULL THE SQUARE TO ME BECAUSE WHAT DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY HAS THAT'S UNIQUE TO ME IS THE SQUARE, AND I'M TRYING TO REPLICATE THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE SUFFER THROUGH. SOME OF THE NEGATIVES ABOUT DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY, BECAUSE IT HAS A FEELING THAT YOU JUST CAN'T GET ANYWHERE ELSE. THAT'S WHAT MY DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S WHY THE FLORIST, THAT'S WHY ALL THE DETAIL AND ALL THE ADDITIONAL EFFORT AND EXPENSE, I'M TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING UNIQUE. IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY. IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK. I'M WILLING TO EXTEND BOTH TO MAKE THIS A BEAUTIFUL DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S THE GOAL. AND THIS THESE PAVERS CONTINUE ALL DOWN. TENNESSEE.

OKAY. I WANT TO SHOW YOU MY SITE PLAN. THIS SITE GEOMETRY REALLY DROVE WHAT ULTIMATELY ENDED UP HAPPENING HERE, BECAUSE I HAD TO PARK CARS TO GET THIS TO WORK WITH. THE COST OF THE LAND LIGHT MANUFACTURING PROPERTY IS IN DEMAND. IT TAKES A LOT TO OVERCOME THE MARKET WHAT THAT CAN BE USED FOR. SO I GOT A PARKED CAR, SO I PULLED ALL THE PARKING TO THE BACK BECAUSE I WAS REALLY AFTER THE STREETSCAPE ALONG TENNESSEE. I WANT TO CLEAN IT UP. I DON'T LIKE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW. I WANT TO MAKE A $10 MILLION INVESTMENT IN MY MONEY TO MAKE THIS A BETTER STREETSCAPE. SO MY BUILDINGS WERE WHAT WERE LEFT OVER AFTER I GAVE THE FIVE FOOT BUFFER. AFTER I DID THE FIRE LANE THAT WAS REQUIRED BY THE CITY, IN FACT, TO DO THIS FIRE LANE 24FT INSTEAD OF 26, I HAVE TO TAKE ALL THE ELECTRICAL LINES, WHICH IS GOING TO COST ME ABOUT $100,000 ALONG TENNESSEE, AND I HAVE TO TAKE THEM UNDERGROUND. AND THE REASON I HAVE TO DO THAT IS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WANTS TO HAVE LADDER ACCESS. THAT TWO FEET WAS SO CRITICAL TO MY DEVELOPMENT IN THAT PAVING TO GET THE MODULES THE WAY I NEEDED IT, THAT I'M SPENDING $100,000 TO TAKE THOSE LINES UNDERGROUND TO GET MY STREETSCAPE. NOW, I LIKE THAT BECAUSE LINES IN FRONT OF YOUR FACADE ARE KIND OF UGLY, SO IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT ME. THE EMOTION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT WAS ANOTHER CONCESSION THAT I MADE. YOU ASKED IF WHAT I THOUGHT ABOUT THE BUSINESSES AND I'VE LOOKED AT YOU GUYS HAVE TWO A LOT OF MIXED USE PROPERTIES THAT COME OUT AND A LOT OF MISTAKES IS THEY ALWAYS TARGET THE RESIDENTIAL AND THEY LEAVE THE COMMERCIAL AND IT ENDS UP BEING KIND OF AN AFTERTHOUGHT. THIS IS A BUSINESS THAT I STARTED. I DID ALL THE PLANNING

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FOR THE VENTURE CAPITAL FOR THIS WAS IN DALLAS. I DID SEVERAL OF THESE RESTAURANTS. I'VE SINCE SOLD THIS BUSINESS VERY SUCCESSFUL. THE DALLAS OBSERVER WROTE IT UP AS ONE OF THE MOST INNOVATIVE NEW CONCEPTS. NOW THIS IS A RESTAURANT. THIS IS IN 200 SQUARE FOOT SPACES. I DON'T PLAN ON HAVING ANY RESTAURANTS AT THIS PARTICULAR SITE. I DON'T THINK IT SUPPORTS IT. IN COMPETITION WITH WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE AT THE SQUARE. I'M LOOKING FOR THE FLORIST, I'M LOOKING FOR THE COFFEE SHOP AND A FEW OTHER SMALL RETAIL BUSINESSES THAT PRIMARILY SERVE MY PEOPLE AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND ME. AND THEN I'VE GOT PROFESSIONAL LIVE WORK UNITS, WHICH I ENVISION TO BE ENGINEERS OR ACCOUNTANTS, SMALL LITTLE BUSINESSES. I DON'T THINK THAT I HAVE THE ABILITY TO COMPETE WITH A BIG DOWNTOWN RESTAURANT, NOR DO I WANT TO DO THAT. I WANT TO DO SOME FUN INCUBATOR BUSINESSES. THE FLORIST BENEFITS MY DEVELOPMENT. THE COFFEE SHOP BENEFITS MY DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN WALK DOWN DOWN THE PLAZA, THEY CAN HAVE COFFEE. IT'S ALMOST AN AMENITY TO MY PEOPLE AND THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT'S MY VISION FOR IT. THAT FLORIST IS HUGE. I BELIEVE IF I START WITH THAT, I HAVE TO HAVE THAT FROM DAY ONE. THAT'S NOT I'M GOING TO BUILD THIS RESIDENTIAL THING AND HOPE THE COMMERCIAL COMES TO IT. I'M ATTACKING THE COMMERCIAL AND THE STREETSCAPE ALONG TENNESSEE TO CREATE THE BUZZ, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE RESIDENTIAL WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF. I'M REALLY AFTER THAT STREETSCAPE ALONG TENNESSEE AND CHANGING THAT AREA AND DOING SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY NICE, THAT MASONRY THE STREETS. YES, I'M DOING THREE STORIES, BUT IT'S A FLAT ROOF, THREE STORY BUILDING. MY MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS 35FT, SAME HEIGHT AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. I PULLED THOSE BUILDINGS SO FAR FORWARD, AWAY, AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORS. I DID THAT. THEY'RE BACK HERE BECAUSE I WANTED TO HIDE THE PARKING AND GET THE VEHICLE AWAY FROM THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE THAT GIVES ME THE ABILITY TO CREATE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN ARCHITECTURAL APPEAL. SO THAT'S MY APPROACH. THAT'S MY CONCEPT. I DID MAKE CONCESSIONS. THE SCREENING WAS A RESULT OF MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS. ANOTHER BIG CONCESSION I MADE IS IF I DON'T KNOW, IF YOU RECALL, I HAD THE DUMPSTER ON THE FAR NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. IT JUST FIT NICELY THERE. I MOVED THAT DUMPSTER AT THE REQUEST OF ADAM STEWART. HE SAID, HEY, I'D REALLY GO A LONG WAY IF YOU'D MOVE THAT DUMPSTER. I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? I LIKE WHERE IT'S AT.

IT WORKS GOOD HERE. BUT I WILL DO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A BENEFIT TO BRINGING IT OVER HERE. IT'S A LITTLE CLOSER TO MY RESIDENCE. I GOT A FEW UNITS THAT LOOK DOWN INTO IT. YOU KNOW, I DON'T NECESSARILY LIKE THAT, BUT I. I MADE THAT CONCESSION SPECIFICALLY TO BE A GOOD STEWARD, AND I REDUCED SOME OF THE DENSITY TO WHERE I FELT LIKE I COULD AND STILL PROVIDE THE QUALITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT I WANT TO DO. AND I JUST KNOW IF I LIVED THERE. THIS IS THIS IS THE LEVEL OF DETAIL AND EFFORT I WOULD WANT. SO THAT'S THAT'S MY PITCH. WITH THAT, I'LL, I'LL OPEN MYSELF UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. YES. DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS? DESCRIBE THE LIVE WORK UNITS A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. IS THAT GOING TO BE LIKE A DOWNSTAIRS RETAIL. AND THEN UPSTAIRS IS THE LIVING. OR HOW DO THOSE WORK. THE LIVE WORK. THE LIVE WORK UNITS ARE LOFTS. SO YES, THERE'S A IT'S DESIGNED TO HAVE A BEDROOM UP ABOVE. AND SOME OF THOSE STAIRCASES ON THOSE INTERIOR PICTURES. YOU CREATE THIS NICE LITTLE VIBE. AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT, AFTER COVID THAT HAVE ENTREPRENEURIAL BUSINESSES, ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS. SO YES, YOU CONDUCT YOUR BUSINESS DOWNSTAIRS, YOU HAVE A LITTLE ENTRY. I HAVE TO HAVE AN ADA RESTROOM. SO IT CHANGES SOME OF YOUR REQUIREMENTS AND ALSO ACCESS TO THE UNITS. ALL OF THEM HAVE TO BE ADA ACCESSIBLE, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT SOMEONE LIKE AN ACCOUNTANT, LIKE AN ENGINEER, CAN CONDUCT BUSINESS DOWNSTAIRS, BUT THEIR BEDROOMS BLOCKED BECAUSE IT'S UP IN A LOFT.

THAT'S MY APPROACH TO THAT. LIVE ABOVE KIND OF HAVE A BUSINESS FORMAT DOWN BELOW. I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED THAT THE HANGING FLOWER BASKETS, THE PLANTERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON THE BALCONIES, THOSE WOULD ALL BE MAINTAINED BY THE COMPLEX. IS THERE GOING TO BE AN HOA? YES, IT'LL BE A IT'S NOT AN HOA PER SE. IT'S THE PROPERTY WILL BE MANAGED. THE WHOLE THING WILL BE MANAGED. THE TRIMMING OF THE SHRUBBERY WILL BE MANAGED. I'M GOING TO PUT A WATERING SYSTEM INTERNAL TO THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL CAPTURE THE LIGHT. POSTS WILL CAPTURE THE STREET, PLANTERS WILL CAPTURE ALL THOSE BALCONIES. THERE WILL BE PEX PIPING IN THE WALLS. THE FITTINGS WILL BE DESIGNED AS SUCH. SO THIS THING DOESN'T FREEZE. IT HAS TO BLEED DOWN JUST LIKE YOUR IRRIGATION LAWNS DO. SO THE PIPES DON'T FREEZE HAS TO BE REALLY THOUGHT OUT.

BUT IF I DON'T DO THAT, CAN I LEGITIMATELY EXPECT ALL THESE DIFFERENT TENANTS TO GO OPEN THAT WINDOW EVERY DAY AND WATER THOSE FLOWERS? NO, WE KNOW THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

NOBODY MAINTAINS ANYTHING. I'M GOING TO HAVE THAT TEED UP AND SET UP. HERE'S YOUR PLANNER. GO GET SOME PLANTS. MAKE THIS COOL. AND IF I HAVE TO DO IT MYSELF, YEAH, I'LL DO IT MYSELF. IN FACT, THE STREETSCAPE, THE PLANTS AND ALL THAT, I'M PLANNING ON DOING ALL THAT. I

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LOVE YOUR PASSION FOR THE FLOWERS AND EVERYTHING. IT'S HARD TO PULL OFF, RIGHT? I DON'T HAVE A GREEN THUMB. SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE, SO WHAT IF SOME OF THE PLANTS DIE AND OR IF YOU NEED TO CHANGE OUT SEASONALLY, IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE PERENNIALS. WELL THAT'S A GOOD WOULD THAT BE ACCESS. LIKE YOU'D HAVE TO ACCESS THAT INDIVIDUALS UNIT IN ORDER TO GO AND PLANT NEW FLOWERS EVERY TIME WE CAN, OR WE CAN DO IT FROM THE OUTSIDE, BECAUSE MOST OF MY PLANTS WILL BE FLOOR LEVEL. THAT FIRST BALCONY, THE SECOND FLOOR, SECOND WINDOW WON'T BE THAT HIGH. BUT THE BENEFIT OF THIS IN DOING WHAT THE APPROACH THAT I'M DOING, THIS IS AN EAST FACING ORIENTATION. IF THIS WAS WEST FACING, I'D HAVE A HARD TIME SITTING HERE TELLING YOU THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE ALL THESE BEAUTIFUL PLANTS BECAUSE THE SUN WOULD JUST BURN IT UP IN TEXAS.

I'M VERY FORTUNATE. JUST THE SOLAR ORIENTATION OF. IT'S PART OF WHY I'M ABLE TO DO WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS BECAUSE EAST, IT GETS THE SUN IN THE MORNING, IT DOESN'T BURN UP THE FLOWERS. BUT YEAH, IF I HAVE TO GO INTO THE UNITS AND SOMEBODY DOESN'T HAVE THEIR PLANTS LOOKING RIGHT AND THEY'RE DYING, ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT BECAUSE THAT AFFECTS ME, THAT AFFECTS THIS DEVELOPMENT. ALL I WILL DO THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT WHAT IT TAKES. BUT I DON'T THINK I'LL HAVE TO. I THINK PEOPLE IF THERE'S WATER, IF THERE'S DRAINAGE AND ALL THEY GOT TO DO IS PLANT, I THINK I'LL GET PEOPLE TO TAKE OWNERSHIP IN THIS. SOME OF THE HOUSES WE BUILT AROUND HERE, THE STUFF THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE PLANTED AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE, IT'S AMAZING.

IT BLOWS ME AWAY. I ENVISION THIS AS THAT. SO DO I THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY.

ARE Y'ALL PROPOSING TO MAINTAIN OWNERSHIP AFTER AFTER YOU DEVELOP IT AND THEN MANAGE IT AS WELL, OR YOU'RE GOING TO HIRE MANAGEMENT OR THAT'S THE INTENTION. AND THIS IS WHY WITH INFLATION, WHICH EVERY EVERY YEAR, YOU CAN BET ON TWO THINGS TAXES AND INFLATION. SO MY GOAL IS TO HOLD THIS LONG TERM. I'M PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY AND EXPENSE UP FRONT, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO APPRECIATE BECAUSE AS WE BUILD CHEAPER AND CHEAPER HOUSES AND WE DON'T DO THE SPACES AND THE PLACES LIKE DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY, IS THAT THIS PROPERTY WILL APPRECIATE BECAUSE IT'S UNIQUE, BECAUSE IT ATTACHES TO SOMETHING IN THE METROPLEX THAT THAT IS UNIQUE. AND PUTTING THE MONEY INTO THIS BECAUSE OF YOUR SQUARE, NOT BECAUSE OF THE WEST MCKINNEY. NOT BECAUSE OF THE AIRPORT, BECAUSE THAT DOWNTOWN SQUARE. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT CAME AND FOUND OUR HOUSES. THEY'RE BUYING INTO THE DOWNTOWN. THEY'RE NOT SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT EVEN BUYING INTO ME AS A DEVELOPER. THEY'RE LIKE, I JUST LOVE THIS SQUARE. THAT'S WHY I'M A LONG TERM INVESTOR IN THAT I PLAN ON OWNING THAT AND HOLDING THAT FOREVER. I WAS BUILDING THIS TO FLIP. IF I WAS A DEVELOPER WHO'S COMING IN, MY GOAL IS TO LEASE IT UP, GIVE TWO MONTHS FREE RENT SO I CAN KEEP MY RENT PRICES HIGH AND FLIP IT.

I'D BE APPROACHING THIS IN AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT FASHION. THAT IS NOT THE INTENT. I'M APPROACHING THIS TO BE THE OWNER LONG TERM. THE LEYLAND CYPRESS. WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME FOR THEM TO MATURE TO THAT 6 TO 8 FOOT HEIGHT? THEY ARE FAST GROWING. FIVE FOOT ON CENTER IS THE CLOSEST YOU CAN PLANT THAT SHRUB. THEY RECOMMEND BETWEEN 5 AND 8FT, PLANTING THEM AT SIX FOOT HEIGHT. THEY'RE SAID THE FIRST YEAR WHEN YOU READ ABOUT THEM, THEY'RE ADAPTING SO THEY'LL GROW 2 OR 3FT ONCE THEY GET HOLD. THEY LOVE ACIDITY OF THE CLAY SOILS THAT WE HAVE HERE. SO ONCE THEY TAKE HOLD, THEY PUT ON THEIR SUPER FAST GROWING 2 OR 3FT OF GROWTH EVERY SEASON. IN FACT, YOU HAVE TO TRIM THEM TWICE A YEAR BECAUSE THEY'RE SO FAST GROWING. SO THEY'RE GOING TO I GOT FIVE FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER. THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE OVER THAT WHOLE FIVE FEET. THEY'RE GOING TO GO UP. AND THEN I'M GOING TO GET COMPLAINTS ABOUT TRIMMING THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO BIG. THAT'S WHAT WHAT I'M GOING TO BE FIGHTING IS THESE THINGS WANTING TO. YEAH. BUT IT'LL TAKE A SEASON OR TWO. I MEAN FOR, FOR THE ADJUSTMENT. BUT IT GIVES ME THE GREEN FEELING. I MEAN, I'M FAIRLY URBAN, BUT HAVING THAT BIG GREEN WALL, IT HELPS MY DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. THE ONLY REASON I DIDN'T WANT TO PROPOSE PUTTING THE COLUMNS AND THE TUBULAR STEEL IS BECAUSE WHY SPEND THE MONEY ON THAT WHEN IT'S JUST SWALLOWED BY THIS, THIS GREEN BUFFER? WHY WASTE THE MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT'S NOT EVEN GOING TO BE SEEN? THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL? DO THEY ALREADY HAVE PRIVACY FENCES? THEY DO. ADAM AND THE NEIGHBOR OVER THERE WHERE I MENTIONED HAD THE LIGHTS BILL COMING IN. THEY HAVE EIGHT FOOT REALLY NICE CEDAR FENCES. SO THIS WILL BE ON MY SIDE OF THESE CEDAR FENCES IN MY FIVE FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

SO YES MA'AM. THEY DO. AND I TALKED SPECIFICALLY THE LARGE HALF ACRE SITE THAT'S AT THE CORNER OF KENTUCKY. I ASKED HIM, I SAID, WHAT DO YOU WANT? WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE THE COLUMNS? BECAUSE I COULD DO BOTH, RIGHT. I COULD HAVE DID SOME COLUMNS WHERE IT'S OPEN. AND HE WANTED THE LIVING SCREEN BECAUSE THERE'S BECAUSE OF THE TREES. HE WANTED THE ABILITY TO NOT KILL OFF THE TREE LINE. WHEN YOU DO DIFFERENT TYPES OF HARDSCAPE FENCING. AND HE WANTED IT TO LOOK NATURAL. SO I SAID, OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I'LL PROPOSE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT. I'M GOOD WITH THAT BECAUSE I COULD HAVE WENT EITHER WAY ON THAT. THERE'S A MAINTENANCE COST TO ME TO DO THE LEYLAND CYPRESS, BUT I WAS TRYING TO APPEASE THE NEIGHBORS WITH THAT PROCESSION. I HAVE A I

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HAVE A COMMENT AND AS WELL AS A QUESTION. SO THE COMMENT IS THIS IS AN AMBITIOUS PLAN, AND YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY BEEN WORKING ON A VERY LONG TIME. AND I THINK YOU SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR THAT. IT LOOKS IT LOOKS LIKE A GREAT IMPROVEMENT TO THE AREA. MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, IS, YOU KNOW, YOU YOU SEEM TO HAVE ENOUGH PARKING JUST THINKING ABOUT THE NUMBERS. BUT THERE WILL BE TIMES, I IMAGINE, WHEN YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T, YOU KNOW, CAN'T FORESEE THAT AT THE MOMENT. BUT HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT AND HAVE YOU LOOKED AT WHERE THAT OVERFLOW MIGHT GO? I HAVE, AND ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS WAS WITH THE NEIGHBORS WAS, HOW DO YOU PROTECT SOMEBODY FROM HAVING A GATHERING? AND EVERYBODY COMES OVER TO THEIR UNIT OR EVERYBODY PARKS OVER HERE, THE BIGGEST VIOLATOR OF PARKING, QUITE FRANKLY, IS SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES BECAUSE PEOPLE MOVE IN AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THEIR GARAGE GETS FILLED UP WITH STUFF. SO WHERE DO THE FOUR VEHICLES IN THAT HOUSE PARK? OUT ON THE STREET, RIGHT. I HAVE MORE PARKING ISSUES ON STREET IN SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS THAT I DO THAN IN DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS, BECAUSE I'VE PLACED THE PARKING OFF THE STREET. YOU DON'T DO THIS IN A NORMAL SINGLE FAMILY.

BUT TO YOUR POINT IS, THERE PLANS TO IF THIS PARKING DIDN'T WORK, I'VE MADE THE POINT THAT THERE'S SO MUCH COMPETITION IN THE MARKET. IF MY PEOPLE GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY GOT TO GO PARK TWO BLOCKS AWAY FROM MY DEVELOPMENT AND WALK EVERY DAY WITH THEIR GROCERIES TO THEIR UNIT, I HOPE I'M JUST THAT GOOD THAT MY DEVELOPMENT IS THAT GOOD, THAT PEOPLE WILL DO THAT.

BUT I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, THEY WON'T. WHAT THEY WILL DO IS THEY'LL GO TO HERITAGE OR THEY'LL GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. THAT HAS A LOT OF VACANCY AND PARKING. AND THEY WON'T THEY WON'T BE TENANTS HERE BECAUSE PEOPLE THIS MARKET WILL CONTROL THAT. I WON'T HAVE PEOPLE THAT WILL PUT UP WITH PARKING TWO BLOCKS AWAY TO WALK TO THEIR UNIT. IT'S JUST TOO COMPETITIVE OF A MARKET. THIS WILL ATTRACT PEOPLE THAT CAN PARK THERE EFFICIENTLY, AND THE COMMERCIAL AGAIN, SAME THING WITH COMMERCIAL. IF PEOPLE CAN'T PARK AT COMMERCIAL COFFEE SHOPS, HOW FAR ARE THEY GOING TO WALK? NOT VERY FAR. YOU GO TO THE COFFEE SHOPS DOWN HERE. I'M GOING TO GO HAVE COFFEE HERE. YOU DRIVE A BLOCK AND YOU'RE LIKE, I CAN'T FIND PARKING. YOU GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOU DON'T GO PARK IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THREE BLOCKS AWAY TO WALK TO GET YOUR COFFEE. THE MARKET WILL DRIVE SOME OF THIS WITH THE ONE BEDROOM UNITS THAT I'M PROPOSING. YOU ALWAYS HAVE A VACANCY RATE GOING. NOT EVERYBODY'S HOME. AT THE SAME TIME. MY EXPERIENCE IS THIS IS ADEQUATE PARKING IN THE EVENT THAT IT. IF I WAS SO SUCCESSFUL THAT I'VE GOT ALL THESE PEOPLE COMING TO MY BUSINESS. GOOD. YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS? TENNESSEE IS GOING TO START DEVELOPING MORE BECAUSE, OH MY GOSH, THERE'S THIS HUGE MARKET THIS GUY'S CREATED. HE PULLED IT OFF.

HE CREATED THIS BUZZ. EVERYBODY WANTS TO COME TO HIS DEVELOPMENT. NOW. ALL THOSE OTHER PROPERTIES THEY'RE GOING TO DEVELOP BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT I JUST DON'T FORESEE IT. I DON'T FORESEE THIS BEING THIS HUGE PARKING ISSUE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DOESN'T ALREADY EXIST, BECAUSE ANYBODY IN DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY HAS THE SAME COMPLAINT. PEOPLE PARK ON THE STREET AND THEY DO. WHETHER YOU LIVE ON THIS BLOCK, WHETHER YOU LIVE ACROSS THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN IN A RESIDENTIAL, PURELY RESIDENTIAL AREA, IT'S THE SAME COMPLAINT I HEAR OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AND THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE HISTORICAL SQUARE AND THE SQUARE ITSELF. WILL THERE BE CONTROLLED ENTRANCE TO THAT, THAT INTERIOR PARKING? IT WON'T BE CONTROLLED. BUT I MEAN, IF IT GOT TO A POINT WHERE IT MADE SENSE, WHERE I ASSIGNED SPACES, FOR INSTANCE, I WOULD ASSIGN SPACES IF THAT'S WHAT IT REQUIRED FOR ME TO HAVE TO BE SUCCESSFUL, BECAUSE I JUST DON'T THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO RENT IT IF THEY CAN'T PARK THERE, I REALLY DON'T, I WOULDN'T I'M NOT WALKING TWO BLOCKS IN THE SUMMER TO GET MY GROCERIES UP TO. WHEN I GOT ALL THESE OPTIONS FOR HOUSING, I JUST WOULDN'T DO IT. I DON'T I THINK IT'S PROVEN IN TEXAS MOST PEOPLE WON'T DO IT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO, WHETHER IT BE COMMERCIAL OR WHETHER IT BE RESIDENTIAL OR PEOPLE AREN'T JUST GOING TO PUT UP WITH IT. THEY GOT TOO MANY OPTIONS. THANK YOU. COULD YOU MARK ON THE DIAGRAM, WHERE ARE YOU PROPOSING THAT THE FLORIST IS LOCATED? I'M SORRY, MARK ON THE DIAGRAM. WHERE ARE YOU PROPOSING THAT THE FLORIST IS GOING TO BE LOCATED AT THE VERY CORNER CORNER CENTER. SO WHERE WOULD CUSTOMER PARKING BE? ON THE STREET? ADJACENT AREA ON THE TENNESSEE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, I'VE GOT A LOT OF PARALLEL PARKING SPACES. THOSE ARE GOING TO BE TIMED, SO I'LL MODIFY THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY. I DON'T WANT A CUSTOMER GOING, HEY, THIS IS AN EASY PARKING SPACE. I THINK I'LL PARK HERE ALL DAY LONG. I NEED TO TIME THAT AND MANAGE IT SO THAT MY BUSINESSES CAN THRIVE.

SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME HOME AND GRAB FLOWERS, MAYBE I GOT A SPACE RIGHT UP THE FRONT THAT'S TEN MINUTE PARKING OR LOADING OR UNLOADING ZONE OR OR WHATEVER. BUT I CAN REGULATE SOME OF THOSE SPACES TO KEEP MY COMMERCIAL USES FLOWING. AND THEN WHERE WOULD THE EMPLOYEES PARK? THE EMPLOYEES WOULD PARK IN THE PARKING LOT. AND THAT'S ACCOUNTED FOR IN THOSE FIGURES.

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THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE 1.17 SPACES FOR THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THERE'S ALLOTMENTS FOR THOSE PEOPLE IN THOSE UNITS. THAT'S IT. THAT'S IN ADDITION TO AND THEN IN TERMS OF DELIVERIES.

SO WHEN THEY'RE RECEIVING SHIPMENTS OF NEW FLOWERS AND PLANTS. YEAH, I THINK WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A LOADING OR UNLOADING AREA. AND IT MIGHT BE OVER ON THIRD STREET FOR TEMPORARY PURPOSES. THAT'S THE INTENT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH DELIVERY A FLORIST WILL TAKE IT.

THESE AREN'T BIG SPACES. THESE ARE LIKE 400, 500 SQUARE FOOT KIND OF MICRO INCUBATOR BUSINESS SPACES WHERE I'LL HAVE SMALL LITTLE CONCEPTS PRIMARILY DESIGNED FOR MY RESIDENTS, FOR THE LOCAL AREA. I DON'T FORESEE THEM AS LARGE BUSINESSES THAT ARE PULLING ALL THIS TRAFFIC.

THEY'RE JUST NOT THEY'RE NOT SIZED THAT WAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JASON. APPRECIATE IT. LET'S OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? WE HAVE ADAM STEWART. THAT'S ADAM. WAIT. OH, THEY SWITCHED WILLIAM KENT. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS? SURE. ARE YOU. I'M SORRY. ARE YOU ADAM? WHAT IS YOUR NAME? I'M ADAM STEWART. OKAY. THANK YOU. FIRST, I DO WANT TO THANK JASON. HE'S. I KNOW WHERE HE WENT. THERE HE IS IN THE BACK BECAUSE HE DID WORK WITH US. AND TO TRY TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS. I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THOUGH, REMAINS FAIRLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING, JUST BECAUSE IT IS SUCH AN UNKNOWN. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIAGRAM, I'M IN THE CAN I CAN I DRAW ON THIS OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? BUT ON THE CORNER THERE'S, THERE'S ACTUALLY A PEDESTRIAN EXIT TO NORTH KENTUCKY. RIGHT HERE. HERE WE GO IN THIS AREA. SO IN THE EVENT THERE IS PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE FEW SPOTS UP FRONT ARE TAKEN. IF IT WAS ME, I'D JUST PARK, GO DOWN KENTUCKY AND PARK IN ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE'S EVEN A, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIAN EXIT FOR PEOPLE TO EASILY DO THAT. WE ALREADY HAVE A LANDSCAPING COMPANY RIGHT NEXT TO US AND A LAUNDROMAT ON THE CORNER, SO THEN WE'D BE COMPLETELY SURROUNDED. YOU'LL SEE A DOCUMENT THAT INCLUDES. WE STARTED THE PROCESS OF THE FORMAL PROTEST, AND WE HAVE ROUGHLY BETWEEN 33% AND 50% OF ALL RESIDENTS IN THE AREA WHO ARE BASICALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING. IT'S NOT NOTARIZED YET, BUT THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN. I FEEL LIKE WE'VE MADE PROGRESS IN THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD REMAINS CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING ISSUE. AND ALSO WE WON'T KNOW IF THERE IS AN ISSUE UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE TO RESOLVE IT, BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY NOT A LOT OF CONTINGENCY PLAN LATER ON TO FIX IT. SO YEAH, THAT'S JUST I JUST I MY PERSONAL PROPERTY, THE THINGS HE DID HELP THE SITUATION SOME I'M STILL WORRIED ABOUT YOU KNOW, 100 SPOTS IN MY BACKYARD OR HOWEVER MANY THAT IS. BUT ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT SIGNED, THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE, SOME OF THE HOUSES ON NORTH KENTUCKY, THERE'S A FEW THAT DON'T EVEN HAVE DRIVEWAYS. SO IF THE STREET PARKING FILLS UP, I THINK THE ONE ON THE CORNER OF KENTUCKY AND HEARD THERE'S A COUPLE OVER THERE THAT DON'T EVEN HAVE DRIVEWAYS. SO IF THAT PARKING FILLS UP, THEN THEY LITERALLY CAN'T EVEN PARK IN FRONT OF THEIR OWN HOUSE. SO I DO THINK THAT THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT. IT'S FAR BETTER THAN WHAT'S BEEN THERE, BUT I JUST WOULD ENCOURAGE TO LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS SPECIFICALLY. I HAVE ALMOST EVERY HOUSE BEHIND IN NORTH KENTUCKY THAT'S HAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE PARKING, ASIDE FROM A FEW THAT THE OWNER DOESN'T LIVE THERE AND HE'S, YOU KNOW, LIVING OUT OF STATE. BUT PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE WHO DOES LIVE THERE ECHOES THE CONCERNS. AND YOU HAVE THEIR PHONE NUMBERS AND ALL THEIR INFORMATION THERE. IF YOU IF YOU FILLED IN ON A LITTLE MAP, YOU WOULD SEE THAT VIRTUALLY EVERY HOUSE ON THAT BLOCK HAS SOME CONCERN. AND I DON'T THINK THAT MOST OF THEM WANT TO KILL THE PROJECT. I THINK THEY JUST WANT MAYBE SOME MORE CONCESSIONS THAT PROTECT US IN THE EVENT THAT PARKING DOES BECOME AN ISSUE. YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY'RE SMALL UNITS, BUT A GUY GETS HIS GIRLFRIEND, HIS GIRLFRIEND WANTS TO LIVE THERE TOO. AND MAYBE PARKING A FEW BLOCKS AWAY WOULD BE BAD IN MOST PARTS OF TEXAS. BUT YOU'RE LITERALLY RIGHT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. YOU'RE WALKING BY BEAUTIFUL HOUSES. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AS BAD AS IF YOU WERE LIKE IN A RANDOM SUBDIVISION WALKING A FEW BLOCKS. BUT ANYWAY, JUST WOULD URGE YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER MAYBE JUST SOME CHANGES THAT WOULD PROTECT US IN THOSE FUTURE

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EVENTS. AND I STILL SOME OF THE PEOPLE I TALKED WITH OPPOSE THE PROJECT ENTIRELY, AND THEY THEY ONLY WANT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OR STICK WITH THE PRESENT ZONING. MY PERSONAL BELIEF IS MAYBE THERE COULD BE A WIN WIN SOLUTION, BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. AND YOU HAVE I HAVE WROTE A LITTLE LETTER. I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT EVERYTHING FROM THE LAST ONE, BUT THANK YOU GUYS FOR PROTECTING THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS SEGMENT OF LAND, IT'S BASICALLY ONE BLOCK LIKE A STONE'S THROW AWAY FROM THE ACTUAL HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND THIS SPOT IS LITERALLY LIKE, IF, YOU KNOW, IF COOKIE MONSTER TOOK A BITE OUT OF 1 OR 2 BLOCKS AND THEN EVERYWHERE AROUND IS ACTUAL HISTORIC DISTRICT. SO IT IS RIGHT ON THE VERGE OF THAT PROTECTED RESIDENTIAL AREA. SO JUST I JUST THINK IT SHOULD BE EXTRA CARE IN DEVELOPING IT AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERY, EVERY ASPECT OF THE PROJECT IS, IS GOING TO PROTECT THAT AREA. YOU KNOW, I'VE POLICE ON HORSEBACK COMING DOWN MY STREET, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT TECHNICALLY IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. SO YEAH, I DO WANT TO THANK THE DEVELOPER, BUT ALSO CONSIDER THE VOICE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALL THOSE ADDRESSES OF PEOPLE THAT DO HAVE CONCERNS. AND I THINK A COUPLE OF THEM ARE GOING TO SHARE. THEY MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION THAN ME. SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR I HAD A QUICK QUESTION, ADAM. THIS NORTH TENNESSEE PROPERTIES LLC, IS THAT A MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT MANAGES SOME OF THE RENTAL PROPERTIES THERE OR THAT'S ON THE PROTEST HERE? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I SAW THERE WERE SEVERAL ON THERE. SO YEAH, THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE THAT THERE ARE SOME SOME PEOPLE THAT OWN HOUSES THAT WERE CONCERNED AND SOME THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE HAVE SOME CONCERNS. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY WANT TO KILL THE PROJECT, BUT THEY DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS.

AND SO YEAH, SO YOU CAN HEAR FROM A FEW MORE VOICES. AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE HARD WORK YOU DO MAKING OUR CITY BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU ADAM WILLIAM KENT. HELLO AGAIN.

WILLIAM KENT 717 NORTH KENTUCKY I HAVE A SMALL INTEREST ON KENTUCKY JUST FOR THE VERY REASONS THAT ADAM HAS SPOKE OF. I DON'T WANT TO GO OVER THE SAME GROUND BECAUSE I THINK WE AGREE WITH MANY OF WHAT HE'S TALKED ABOUT. THE. WHEN YOU COHABITATE, I BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO FILL UP QUICK AND IT'S GOING TO SPILL OUT. AND YOU ALL KIND OF CAN SEE THAT HAPPENING. I CAN SEE A NUMBER OF MOVES AHEAD. WHAT THIS WILL TURN OUT TO BE IF IT'S NOT MANAGED RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET FROM I'M CONFUSED WITH THE 1.75 WITH MULTIFAMILY. THEN WE KIND OF WHITTLE IT DOWN TO 1.15 AND THEN SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN THAT'S ACCEPTABLE. SO THERE'S NO COMPROMISE. WE'RE COMPROMISING ON THE PARKING OR THE ABILITY TO HAVE SPACE FOR CARS. SOMEONE'S GOING TO HAVE TO COMPROMISE, WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE US OR THE BUILDER SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN WHERE EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE HAPPY. THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIG STICKING POINT JUST TO MAKE IT FUN TO BE THERE. BECAUSE IT'S OUR SANCTUARY WHERE WE COME THAT WE LIVE, AND THIS IS WHAT WE BOUGHT INTO WHEN WE FIRST MOVED HERE. SO WE WANT TO KIND OF MAINTAIN THAT. AND EVERYBODY I'VE TALKED TO, I HAD A GOOD CHANCE TO TALK TO 18, 20 PEOPLE IN THESE LAST TWO WEEKS TO GET A FEEL. OKAY. WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? NO ONE'S IN FAVOR OF MULTIFAMILY. I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYBODY GO, OH, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. IF IT'S DONE RIGHT, THEN YEAH, IT COULD BE A GOOD THING.

TWO PEOPLE I TALKED TO THE TOOL AND DIE OWNER AND THEN WE HAVE JOPLIN. THOSE GUYS AREN'T GOING ANYWHERE FOR A LONG TIME. AND TO HOPE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BRING DOWNTOWN SORT OF IN THAT AREA, I THINK IS A MYTH ANYTIME SOON. IF YOU GO DOWN THERE BY HUTCHENS, THOSE POOR PEOPLE WHO ARE PARKED IN FRONT OF ALL THOSE HOMES, WHAT A NIGHTMARE FOR THOSE THOSE POOR HOMEOWNERS. IT IS BOOKED TO THE CORNERS, 20 CARS DEEP IN ALL DIRECTIONS. THAT'S WHAT I'M AFRAID OF. IF WE HAVE OVERFLOW.

SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS JUST A DENSITY THING. SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR YOU FOLKS TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION BASED ON OUR SIDE. AND WHAT MR. JASON IS HE WANTING TO DO. AND THERE'S SOME KIND OF COMPROMISE. AND I KNOW THERE'S A POINT BREAK FOR PRICE AND PROFIT AND SO FORTH. THAT'S GOING TO BE UP TO HIM TO FIGURE THAT OUT. THANKS. THANK YOU. WILLIAM. WE HAVE NEXT JOSEPH

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COLLINS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD? HELLO. JOSEPH COLLINS, 709 NORTH TENNESSEE STREET. MR. ROSE NEVER CAME AND TALKED TO ME. SO I'M JUST TWO, TWO BLOCKS DOWN, TWO HOUSES DOWN.

OBVIOUSLY, EVERYBODY BROUGHT UP PARKING. I'VE HEARD YOU GUYS SAY ABOUT PARKING. I CONCUR WITH EVERYTHING THEY SAY. THE BIGGEST THING OFF STREET PARKING, I SEE, HE ADDED. OFF STREET PARKING.

I'VE HAD TWO CARS HIT ON OFF STREET PARKING WHERE I PARKED IN MY. BY THE WAY, MY OFF STREET IS I'M ACTUALLY UP. IT'S KIND OF WEIRD. IT'S SLOPED, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY PARKED KIND OF UP ON A SIDEWALK ALMOST. I'VE STILL HAD TWO CARS HIT. PEOPLE DRIVE DOWN NORTH TENNESSEE 50MPH. SO I MEAN, IT'S THIS IS NOT GOING TO STOP. I MEAN, HAVING PARKING THERE IS JUST GOING TO HAVE ACCIDENTS, MORE ACCIDENTS, PEOPLE HIT. ANOTHER ISSUE IS THE I KNOW, I KNOW, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT DRAINAGE, DRAINAGE, DRAINAGE, DRAINAGE, DRAINAGE, DRAINAGE. WELL, HE CAN'T HELP WHAT COMES DOWN HURD STREET, WHAT COMES DOWN NORTH TENNESSEE COMING FROM THE NORTH AND WHAT COMES DOWN NORTH TENNESSEE COMING FROM THE SOUTH. ALL THAT WATER MEETS RIGHT THERE AT KIND OF IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE. AND THE PEOPLE NEXT TO US. AND IT JUST IT'S TERRIBLE. IT'S ALMOST IT'S ACTUALLY I HAD TO GO MOVE MY, MY MOTHER IN LAW'S CAR AND IT ALMOST TOOK ME UNDER. I MEAN, IT'S, THERE'S JUST THE WATER ALONE IS AND HIS DRAINAGE IS NOT GOING TO WORK, BUT I DO I OPPOSE THE WHOLE THING. IT JUST NEEDS TO BE SINGLE FAMILY THAT NEED TO BE APARTMENTS. WE DON'T NEED APARTMENTS OUT THERE. ALSO, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF IT DON'T EVEN LIVE ANYWHERE NEAR IT. I SAW THE LETTERS THAT YOU GUYS HAD. I THINK ONE LIVES OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF DOWNTOWN.

THERE WAS ONE THAT JUST HAS A BUSINESS OFF OF FIRST STREET, WHICH IS NOWHERE NEAR SOME OTHER PEOPLE. THEY JUST THEY DON'T EVEN LIVE ANYWHERE NEAR ALL THIS. SO THEY'RE IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE NOT EVEN BEING AFFECTED. AGAIN, IT'S I MEAN, IT LOOKS NICE, BUT IT DOESN'T NEED TO HAPPEN. I THINK YOU GUYS ALL KIND OF HAVE A FEELING. YOU GUYS ALL KIND OF FEEL THE SAME ABOUT THE PARKING AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS IS GOING TO. I MEAN, I JUST DON'T SEE IT WORKING. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JOSEPH ANDREW ARRINGTON.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS SAYS ANDREW, BUT YOU CAN CALL ME ANDY ARRINGTON. I LIVE AT 810 NORTH TENNESSEE STREET. MY PROPERTY, I BELIEVE, IS REPRESENTED BY THE WALKWAY ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE DIAGRAM THERE. THAT SLOPE WOULD BE MY DRIVEWAY, I GUESS. SO MY OPINIONS WILL PROBABLY DIVERGE A LITTLE BIT FROM SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS, IN THAT MY VIEW OUT MY FRONT DOOR STANDS TO IMPROVE THE MOST OUT OF ANYBODY ELSE. PROBABLY HERE TODAY. AND SO I FOUND THIS PRETTY APPEALING THE WHOLE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING IT, WITH SOME INTEREST FROM THE DAY THAT THE PART OF THE OLD STRUCTURE STARTED TO FALL OVER, AND MY KIDS AND I WENT OUTSIDE AND WATCHED, WATCHED TO GET TORN DOWN AND, AND SO ALL THE PARKING DISCUSSION IS SORT OF BEEN BEAT MOST OF THE WAY TO DEATH. YOU KNOW, WHENEVER THERE'S A FESTIVAL, THE SQUARE PEOPLE WILL WALK HALF A MILE. NO, NO PROBLEM TO AVOID PAYING FOR PARKING. SO WE GET PEOPLE PARKED IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, A FEW TIMES A YEAR, MUSIC FESTIVAL, OKTOBERFEST AND THINGS. WE'RE NOT TO WE DON'T GRUDGE THAT TO PEOPLE. THE ONE THAT I THINK PROBABLY CONCERNS ME THE MOST BECAUSE I'LL SAY, I MEAN, I WORK IN I WORKED IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS, I WORKED IN NIGHTLIFE IN MY CAREER. AND SO I FAVOR GENERALLY THE IDEA OF MORE PEOPLE AND ACCESSIBLE HOUSING FOR YOUNG PROFESSIONALS THAT MIGHT BRING MORE AMENITIES. IT'S REALLY HARD FOR PEOPLE UNDER ABOUT 40 TO AFFORD TO LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COME WITH A SLIGHTLY YOUNGER NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT THIS STRETCH OF TENNESSEE STREET HAS NO TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICE OF ANY KIND. BETWEEN LAMAR STREET AND UNIVERSITY, WHICH IS A LITTLE OVER A MILE RIGHT AROUND A MILE. SO THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING 50 MILES AND THAT'S NOT AN EXAGGERATION. PEOPLE DO GO 50, 55 MILES AN HOUR DOWN THIS STRETCH OF THE STREET. THIS IS ALMOST EXACTLY THE HALFWAY POINT, JUST IN THE SENSE THAT I CAN WALK TO THE SQUARE IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. I CAN WALK TO HUTCHINS ABOUT TEN MINUTES. SO I'M IN PARADISE FOR THOSE REASONS. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'VE THOUGHT LONG, THOUGHT THAT MAYBE

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A TRAFFIC CIRCLE OR SOMETHING AT THE MIDWAY INTERSECTION, WHICH IS BASICALLY WHERE THIS LITTLE TRIANGULAR ISLAND COMES IN ON THE DIAGRAM, MIGHT HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN GENERAL. I HAVE TWO YOUNG CHILDREN, AND THEY'RE NOT REALLY ALLOWED TO PLAY IN THE FRONT YARD. THERE'S ABOUT 30 RESIDENTIAL BETWEEN MIDWAY AND LAMAR, AND THIS WOULD BE ADDING, YOU KNOW, TRIPLING THAT. AND SO JUST THE AMOUNT OF EXTRA TRAFFIC, EXTRA YOUNG KIDS MAYBE. AND YOU KNOW, JUST THAT'S MY BIG CONCERN I THINK I'VE MARKED IN OPPOSITION, BUT I'M MOSTLY NOT NECESSARILY IN OPPOSITION. JUST WANT THIS TO BE THOUGHT OUT ALL THE WAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANDREW, WE HAVE ONE MORE THAT'S REGISTERED A MAGDA. HI, EVERYBODY. HOW IS EVERYBODY TONIGHT? THIS IS AWKWARD BECAUSE WHILE I WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. OH, MAGDA. ADDRESS. 07 0470 6708 NORTH TENNESSEE STREET. AND ALSO CHURCH STREET. 710 NORTH CHURCH AND 404 NORTH CHURCH. YES, IT DOES SOUND LIKE I'M PLAYING A GAME OF MONOPOLY, BUT I DID JUST SELL THE THREE PROPERTIES ON NORTH TENNESSEE TO BUY THE ONE ON CHURCH STREET. SO LITERALLY JUST FRIDAY WE CLOSED ESCROW. SO IT'S KIND OF WEIRD THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS, BUT I DO LIVE AROUND THE CORNER. OKAY.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL. GREAT JOB, GREAT JOB. I JUST THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER BECAUSE YEAH, PARKING IS REALLY HARD RIGHT NOW. AND OTHER THAN THAT, I LIKE THE PROJECT AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ANYBODY? OKAY, I SEE NOBODY ELSE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. CHARLES. MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND IS THAT DEIDRA? DEIDRA. SECOND, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MISS. WOULD YOU PRESSED THE SECOND BUTTON FOR A SECOND? THANK YOU. SORRY. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THE VOTE IS 7 TO 0 TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE'LL OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION OF THE COMMISSIONERS. I WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT BELIEVED THAT IF WE WOULD TAKE A PAUSE AND GIVE THE APPLICANT AND THE HOMEOWNERS OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN AND TALK, THAT WE MIGHT COME UP WITH A BETTER SITUATION, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD AND SEEN TONIGHT, I BELIEVE I MADE A MISTAKE. I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE FURTHER APART THAN WE ARE BEING FOR EVERYBODY KIND OF BEING SATISFIED. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. I DO THINK IT'S VERY AMBITIOUS FOR THIS LOCATION AND I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT IT IN THIS FASHION. I WISH WE COULD HAVE GOT CLOSER AS IT RELATES TO THE RESIDENTS. IT SEEMS THAT THE RESIDENTS DON'T WANT IT. I KNOW THEY DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO WHAT WAS THERE. YEAH, BUT HOW DO WE GET TO THAT WIN WIN? SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE YET. I'D LIKE TO BRING THE APPLICANT BACK UP IF POSSIBLE. YOU HAD ANOTHER QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK, IF YOU DON'T MIND. THANK YOU. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THE ONE OF THE BIGGEST PUSHBACKS THAT YOU'RE GETTING FROM THE RESIDENTS IS THE ISSUE REGARDING THE PARKING.

AND LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE GONE BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND MADE SOME MODIFICATIONS, BUT IS THERE ANY WIGGLE ROOM THAT YOU HAVE WITH YOUR PLAN WHERE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS THAT REALLY ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF THE SPILLOVER PARKING AND SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BETTER ACCOMMODATE, BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT'S ALSO A MAJOR CONCERN. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE MODIFICATION THAT YOU'VE MADE FOR THE PARKING IS GOING TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, TO

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THE EXTENT THAT IT NEEDS TO BE ACCOMMODATED. HOWEVER, I DO BELIEVE THIS IS A GREAT PLAN, BEAUTIFUL PLAN, BUT IS THERE ANY PLACE THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO MAKE SOME CONCESSIONS OR IS THERE WITH THIS CALIBER DEVELOPMENT? I'VE BEEN AS FAR AS I CAN TO DO WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO WITH THE RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL. I WOULD APPROACH IT DIFFERENTLY. THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO APPROACH THIS SITE. I WOULD, I THINK I SPOKE WITH ADAM, I WOULD SPREAD IT OUT A LITTLE BIT. I'D PROBABLY LOSE THE MASONRY AND THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO APPROACH IT, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE THE TENNESSEE FACADE. I CAN'T MAKE THAT WORK. I'M NOT I CAN'T MAKE MONEY DOING IT, QUITE FRANKLY. AND UNFORTUNATELY, I WISH I COULD. I WISH I HAD WON THE LOTTERY AND I COULD COME HERE TONIGHT AND GIVE YOU 50 UNITS AND FIVE PARKING SPACES PER UNIT AND JUST DONATE.

BUT TO DO THE EGO STATEMENT THAT I WANT TO DO THIS IS AS FAR AS I CAN BID. I ALSO HAVE THE COMPETITION WITH THIS NEW SENATE BILL THAT'S BEEN PASSED THAT I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO LOOK AT, WHERE THE STATE HAS NOW SAID CITIES, NO MATTER HOW MANY BEDROOMS, CANNOT ASK FOR ANY MORE THAN ONE PARKING SPACE PER UNIT IN CERTAIN MUNICIPALITIES. I NEED TO GO STUDY THAT BECAUSE THAT BECOMES MY COMPETITION. I HAVE TO BE COMPETITIVE WITH WHAT'S AROUND ME. HERITAGE DAVIS STREET TO PULL THIS OFF, AND I CAN APPROACH IT IN DIFFERENT WAYS. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU AND FRANK, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT. LET ME ASK YOU, WHICH IS WHAT I PLAN ON DOING IF I DON'T GET THIS THROUGH. LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. YES, SIR. YOU STATED EARLIER THAT THE COMMERCIAL IS NOT THE DRIVING FACTOR HERE, AND THAT YOU WERE WILLING TO GIVE AWAY SOME SPACE TO THE FLOORS IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE WHAT YOU'RE GOING FOR, CORRECT? HAVE YOU THOUGHT OF JUST ELIMINATING THE COMMERCIAL COMPLETELY AND SEEING IF YOU GET A BETTER RECEPTION FROM JUST A, YOU KNOW, GIVE YOU MORE PARKING, YOU PROBABLY IT MIGHT BE MORE ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE? I KNOW IT'S NOT WHAT YOU INTENDED IN YOUR ORIGINAL VISION, BUT IT MIGHT BE A SOLUTION, I DON'T KNOW. YEAH.

AND THE COMMERCIAL AND THE RETAIL IS THE HARDEST TO PULL OFF. YEAH, I'M DOING THAT BECAUSE TENNESSEE STREET IS SUCH A FRONT DOOR TO THE CITY. THE NEXT APPROACH I WOULD COME WITH, I WOULD YOU'RE RIGHT. I WOULD GET RID OF ALL THE COMMERCIAL. THERE WOULD BE NO COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THAT'S THE PART THAT I'VE GOT TO REALLY SUPPLEMENT ALL ALONG TENNESSEE STREET, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO TAKE I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE THAT FLOOR SPACE AWAY FOR FREE. AND I'VE HAD MANY FLORISTS SAY, NO, DON'T EVEN WANT TO TRY IT. IT'S TOO TOUGH OF A BUSINESS. SO THERE IS A LOT OF CONCESSION BEING DONE TO CREATE THAT COMMERCIAL FACADE. BUT NO, I CAN APPROACH IT WITH ZERO COMMERCIAL, AND THAT'S HONESTLY THE MOST ECONOMICALLY SAFE WAY TO DO IT.

THE COMMERCIALS, THE DIFFICULT COMPONENT OF THIS WHOLE DEAL. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR EVERYONE WHEN I SAY THAT. THAT'S THE ANSWER. I JUST KNOW VERTICAL MIXED USE IS TOUGH IN ANY ENVIRONMENT, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS WHO YOU WOULD WANT TO BE SOME OF YOUR BIGGEST CUSTOMER BASE, YOU KNOW, AREN'T INCLINED TO SUPPORT IT. SO THAT'S JUST MY $0.02. YEAH. AND THE PARKING ISSUE, NO MATTER WHAT WE BUILD. WHERE PARKING IN THE DOWNTOWN.

YOU GUYS, BEFORE I EVER SHOWED UP DOWN HERE, THAT WAS THE ISSUE, RIGHT? THE SQUARE PARKING. YOU BUILT PARKING GARAGES, TRYING TO GET OVER THAT. YOU KNOW, THE PARKING ISSUE PREDATES ANYTHING THAT I'VE DONE HERE OR THAT ANY DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO DO THAT'S I BELIEVE THAT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE CONCERN BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY THERE. SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOOD NEIGHBORS MENTIONED WHEN THE DOWNTOWN HAS A FESTIVAL, PEOPLE SPREAD OUT ALL OVER THE PLACE. THAT'S A FACT OF LIVING DOWNTOWN THAT I CAN'T SOLVE. I MEAN, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO BUILD A FIVE STORY PARKING GARAGE AND NEXT DOOR TO ME, GREAT. WELL, PEOPLE USE IT. I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT'S A PROBLEM THAT'S INTEGRAL WITH THE DOWNTOWN. ASIDE FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT, I BELIEVE THAT FOR MY SUCCESS, MY PARKING IS ADEQUATE BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE. I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PARK PEOPLE HERE. LIKE I SAID, IF I'M FORCING PEOPLE TO WALK, I'M EITHER GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE THE UNITS AWAY OR THEY'RE GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE. I MEAN, AS A DEVELOPER, THE LAST THING YOU EVER WANT TO DO IS UNDER PARK. I DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO. OH, YEAH. NO. WHO SIGNS UP TO UNDER PARK. BUT IN THAT ENVIRONMENT, YOU KNOW, JUST OLD TOWN SQUARES IN GENERAL. THEY WERE DESIGNED BEFORE EVERYONE WAS DRIVING A CAR, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO IT'S JUST NOT ALWAYS THE SAME COMPLAINTS. I UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGE. YEAH. I HAD A QUESTION ON THE UNIT MIX BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WAS DISCUSSED AT ALL, BUT IS IT PRIMARILY STUDIO AND ONE BEDROOM? IS THAT THE INTENT WITH THE 79 UNITS? CORRECT. THERE ARE NO TWO BEDROOM PLANS. THERE ARE A MIXTURE BETWEEN STUDIOS AND LOFTS, BUT THEY'RE ALL ONE BEDROOM. AND IT'S BEING DESIGNED BECAUSE THAT'S A MARKET THAT IS

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CONTINUALLY GROWING. YOUNG PEOPLE ARE CHOOSING NOT TO GET MARRIED. WE GOT A LOT OF BIGGER STUFF OUT THERE. I'M TRYING TO ATTRACT THE SINGLE PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THE AREA AS WELL. YOU GOT A GIRLFRIEND, YOU GOT A FAMILY AND KIDS. RIGHT NOW, IT'S KIND OF IT'S, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE OUT AWAY FROM THE, WELL, THE HOMELESS ISSUE, THE RUNDOWN INDUSTRIAL. SO I THINK THAT FOR ME TO BE ECONOMICALLY VIABLE, I HAVE TO TARGET THAT TYPE OF MARKET. AND WILL THERE BE SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE ARE USING A COUPLE SPACES? THERE WILL BE, BUT THERE WILL BE SOME VACANCIES AND THERE WILL BE A LOT THAT WON'T. BUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS I BELIEVE IF THE PARKING BECOMES AN ISSUE, PEOPLE WON'T RENT THERE OR I'LL BE FORCED. IF IT DID BECOME AN ISSUE, I WOULD GO OUT AND APPROACH SOME DIFFERENT NEIGHBORS WITH SOME POSSIBLE PARKING AGREEMENTS OR RENTING SOME OF THEIR PARKING, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL SITES IN THE PROXIMITY THAT I COULD PROBABLY GET AWAY WITH DOING THAT AND HAVE A BETTER ALTERNATIVE TO SOLVE IT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. I'VE DONE A LOT OF THESE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS WITH THIS PARKING, AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN AN ISSUE. BUT THE DOWNTOWN PARKING ISSUE, IT EXISTS. WHETHER I BUILD ANYTHING HERE OR NOT, IT'S NOT GOING AWAY REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS HERE. I MEAN, AND TO BE HONEST, I HAVE A LITTLE EXPERIENCE IN THAT REALM. AND IF YOU'RE HAVING THEM ALL STUDIOS. NO, NO. TWO BEDROOMS. AND I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT WHEN IT COMES TO THAT ISSUE. AND THAT ISSUE ALONE, WE TEND TO OVER PARK EVERYTHING IN TEXAS. SO AND THAT'S WHY THE STATE HAS NOW LIMITED CITIES ABILITY TO DO SO, BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO BRING IN PEOPLE THAT CAN AFFORD TO LIVE IN THESE COMMUNITIES. ONE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED, YOU CAN'T COME INTO THE DOWNTOWN UNDER 500,000. YOU CAN'T YOUNG PEOPLE, PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR CITIES, WORK FOR TEACHERS. THEY HAVE NO WAY OF LIVING IN THE DOWNTOWN ANYMORE. TEN YEARS AGO THEY COULD WE WERE SELLING HOUSES FOR UNDER 300,000. THOSE SAME HOUSES NOW 700,000. AND THE PRICES CONTINUE TO RISE. THIS IS A WAY TO GET THE PEOPLE THAT WE BROUGHT IN, SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT HOMES, THEIR HOUSE PRICES HAVE MORE THAN DOUBLED.

THIS IS A WAY TO GET YOUNG PEOPLE BACK, TO BE ABLE TO EVEN COME INTO THE SQUARE. AND THAT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER THE METROPLEX. BUT IT REALLY HAPPENED IN DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY. I WAS BUYING LOTS FOR $20,000.12 YEARS AGO THAT NOW ARE GOING FOR $250,000. THAT TAKES AFFORDABILITY OUT OF REACH OF YOUNG PEOPLE. THIS IS TRYING TO BRING THAT BACK. I DON'T MEAN TO GO ON AND ON. YOU GUYS CAN CUT ME OFF IF YOU NEED TO. ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? I DO HAVE? I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. AND THANK YOU. YES, SIR. SO YOU KNOW, GIVEN GIVEN THE PARKING VARIANCE THAT COMES ALONG WITH THE APPROVAL CAN CAN YOU CAN Y'ALL JUST GIVE US SOME INSIGHT INTO THE LOGIC THAT WENT INTO. YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THAT THIS PROJECT, GIVEN THAT VARIANCE. SURE. BECAUSE IT'S I MEAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MAYBE I GOT THE NUMBERS WRONG, BUT IT'S TAKEN DOWN FROM 11.7 5 TO 1.17. IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

SO THE INTENT WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, GIVEN THAT WE'RE HAVING MIXED USE COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY, AND GIVEN THE LOCATION, THE SIZE OF THE UNIQUE LOT AND THEN TRYING TO MIMIC THE MTC, THAT'S WHERE WE FILLED THE COMPARISON REGARDING THE PARKING RATIOS. CURRENTLY, HERITAGE DAVIS AT THE SQUARE ARE SIMILAR AS FAR AS IN SIZE, PARKING RATIO, UNIT COUNT IN TERMS OF DENSITY. THESE ARE ALSO THEY'RE ABOUT 1.5 TO 2 ACRES IN SIZE WITH SIMILAR STANDARDS. AND THAT'S WHERE WE KIND OF CALCULATED THE PARKING RATIO ONE PER ONE UNIT. AND GIVEN THAT IT'S ONE BEDROOM OR ONE, IT'S FOR ONE PERSON. AND THEN WITH THE WITH THE LIVE AND WORK. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A PERSON THAT LIVES THERE AND WORKS THERE AS FAR AS THE LIVE AND WORK UNITS WHICH THE WORK WOULD BE AT THE FRONT, THE LIVE WOULD BE IN THE BACK. AND THEN WE ARE CALCULATING THOSE AT ONE PER 500, WHICH IS GENERATED A LITTLE BIT MORE PARKING FOR THOSE FOR THOSE TYPES OF USES. OKAY. AND STAFF'S NOT AWARE OF ANY ISSUES AT EITHER OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS IN REGARDS TO PARKING, BECAUSE THEY'VE BOTH BEEN IN OPERATION FOR A PERIOD OF TIME NOW, NOT PERSONALLY. NOT PERSONALLY. THE DAVIS ON THE SQUARE, THE GARAGE THAT'S NEXT TO IT, THAT'S A CITY GARAGE, NOT A DAVIS ON THE SQUARE. SO THE FIRST FLOOR, IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. AND THEN ALL THE REST OF THE FLOORS ARE CUT OFF FOR THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS. OKAY. YES, BUT IT'S OPEN TO THE

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PUBLIC. SO ANYBODY CAN PARK THERE. OKAY. ON THE FIRST FLOOR. YEAH. OKAY. ON THE FIRST AND SECOND AND SOME OF THE SECOND, IT'S LIKE HALF ISH. YEAH. OKAY. WE ALREADY CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. NO. OKAY. I'M SORRY. YES, WE DID CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM. MOTION BY CHARLES TO APPROVE THE ITEM. JAMES. JAMES. EXCUSE ME. JAMES, I WAS LOOKING RIGHT AT YOU. YES, SIR. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. JESSE. THANK YOU. A MOTION, A SECOND TO APPROVE THIS ITEM. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THIS ITEM WAS DENIED. AND A VOTE OF 4 TO 3 IN FAVOR OF THE NAYS. AND THIS INFORMATION WILL BE PASSED ON TO CITY COUNCIL. ANOTHER ITEM. THE MOTION FAILED. YES. MOTION FAILED. SO ANOTHER MOTION. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THIS MOTION FAILED. OKAY. YEAH. THE MOTION TO DENY IS FAILED. MOTION TO APPROVE IT.

I'M SORRY. YES, THE MOTION TO APPROVE IT HAS FAILED. 4 TO 3 HAS NOT A DENIAL MOTION. WE NEED ONE. WE NEED A DENIAL MOTION. YES. OR ANY MOTION. WE CAN HAVE. ANY MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THE DENIAL TO MOVE IT FORWARD. I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY. THANK YOU I SECOND. YOU SECOND. NOT ME ON THIS END. THANK YOU. CHARLES, I ONLY LOOK ONE WAY. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY THIS ITEM. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION PASSES. ITEM IS DENIED. 5 TO 2, AND THIS INFORMATION BE FORWARDED ON TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION ON AUGUST 19TH. WILL THAT REQUIRE A

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “C3” - Regional Commercial District to “I1” - Light Industrial District, located on the Northwest and Northeast Corners of State Highway 121 (Sam Rayburn Tollway) and Tina Drive]

SUPERMAJORITY WITH THAT WITH. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 250056Z. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACT ON A REQUEST TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM C THREE TO L ONE ON THE NORTHEAST CORNERS OF STATE HIGHWAY 121 AND TINA DRIVE, STUART. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN STUART. SORRY ONE LAST TIME TONIGHT. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM C3 REGIONAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO I-1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. DISTRICT? GENERALLY FOR INDUSTRIAL USES. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST AND NORTHEAST CORNERS OF STATE HIGHWAY 121 AND TINA DRIVE. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND HAS PROMINENT VISIBILITY ALONG STATE HIGHWAY 121, AND IS AN AND IS AN OPPORTUNE LOCATION FOR ACHIEVING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL DEVELOPMENT. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ONE MCKINNEY 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. PROPERTIES TO THE EAST AND WEST ARE ZONED TO ALLOW FOR A MIX OF COMMERCIAL USES, WHICH WOULD SUPPORT THE VISION OF THE CORRIDOR AS ESTABLISHED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. INTRODUCING THE PROPOSED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING HAS THE POTENTIAL TO ERODE AND OTHERWISE CONSISTENT COMMERCIAL VISION BECAUSE OF THE INCOMPATIBILITY OF THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT AND THE ALLOWED SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT UNDER THIS DISTRICT.

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT A PROPERTY TO THE NORTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS DEVELOPED FOR WAREHOUSE USES PURSUANT TO EXISTING ZONING ENTITLEMENTS. FROM THE 1980S. STAFF HAS CONCERNS THAT IF ADDITIONAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES ARE PERMITTED IN THE AREA, IT MAY INCREASE MARKET DESIRABILITY FOR CONCENTRATING SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT TYPES THAT WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED, FURTHER ERODING THE OVERALL COMMERCIAL VISION FOR THE AREA. ADDITIONALLY, APPROXIMATELY 550FT WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, THE MCKINNEY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION HAS PURCHASED AN APPROXIMATELY 43 ACRE TRACT. THE MEDICI PURCHASE PURCHASED THIS AND

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OTHER PROPERTIES ALONG STATE HIGHWAY 121 TO PRESERVE THIS VITAL CORRIDOR FOR DESTINATION DRIVEN, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PROVIDED PROVIDING ENTERTAINMENT, LIFESTYLE AND CORPORATE OFFICE PRODUCTS TO MCKINNEY. AS SUCH, STAFF HAS CONCERNS THAT THE INTRODUCTION OF THE PROPOSED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING NEAR THE MEDICI PROPERTY MAY LIMIT THE ABILITY FOR THE MEDICI TO REALIZE THESE GOALS. ESTABLISHED FOR THE 43 ACRE TRACT. STAFF RECEIVED THREE LETTERS IN OPPOSITION, ALL OF WHICH HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU EITHER DIGITALLY OR IN PHYSICAL FORM. STAFF DOES NOT FEEL THAT THE PROPOSED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES, EXISTING AND ENVISIONED FOR THE IMMEDIATE AREA, AND RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE PROPOSED REZONING REQUEST. AS SUCH, STAFF RECOMMENDS A. I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU SIR. YES, QUESTIONS. WHERE IS THE MEDICI TRACT? IT WOULD BE THE ONE TO THE WEST, RIGHT HERE, TO THE WEST OF THE SUBSTATION WHERE PD IS. YEAH. GOTCHA. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? SO, STEWART. SO, STUART, JUST A QUESTION. WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT. SO WHAT IS ENVISIONED THAT MIGHT GO THERE. ARE WE TALKING RESTAURANT AREA KIND OF SIMILAR TO 380 AND HARDING. IT CAN BE YOU KNOW RESTAURANT OFFICE MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE A GYM OR A MOVIE THEATER OR SOMETHING ALONG ALONG THOSE LINES, SOMETHING THAT WILL ATTRACT PEOPLE TO, TO THIS AREA.

GIVEN THAT IT IS ONE OF THE GATEWAYS TO THE CITY, ONE OF THE MAIN ENTRANCES. OKAY. WOULD YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHEN. THE TRACK WAS PURCHASED BY THE. MCKINNEY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR MCKINNEY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT? DO YOU KNOW WHEN THAT WAS? WHEN? WHEN? YEAH, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE I.

OKAY. I'M GOOD AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I'M SORRY. OKAY. THANK YOU. STEWART, I'M. I HAVEN'T HAD ANY INTEREST ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SIDE. THEY HAVEN'T HAD ANY INTEREST THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF IN DEVELOPING IT RECENTLY OR AS FAR AS I'M AWARE OF, NOTHING CONCRETE HAS COME IN. BUT I KNOW THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING FOR SUITOR DEVELOPERS. COMMISSION MEMBER WHATLEY. I PULLED IT UP, THE EDC BROUGHT IT. I BOUGHT IT IN 2018, 2018. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I SAW KOSKI IN THE HALLWAY THE OTHER DAY, AND HE'S ALWAYS WORKING ON SOMETHING, SO I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF HE'S NOT THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING THERE. OKAY, WHAT ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL CORNER THERE AT HARDING? AND 121 HAS THERE BEEN ANY INTEREST IN DEVELOPING THAT THAT CORNER? I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANYTHING. THE MEDICI DOES NOT OWN THAT TRACT. HOWEVER, THE, THE NORTHWEST CORNER. YEAH. YEAH. THAT SOLD RECENTLY. OH IT DID. YOU KNOW THE INTENT? I'M NOT SURE. I DO BELIEVE IT'S A COMBINATION OF. RETAIL, COMMERCIAL AND THE OTHER USES.

I'M NOT SURE, BUT I THINK IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT IS ALREADY ON HARDENED TODAY ACROSS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SIR. IF WE COULD GET THE APPLICANT UP. YES.

MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, I'M BOB RODER, 1700 REDBUD, SUITE 300. MCKINNEY, ON

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BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. I WANT TO SORT OF BREAK MY PRESENTATION DOWN INTO THREE PARTS, AND I WANT TO START BY SAYING I TOGETHER, ALONG WITH A NUMBER OF YOU, WERE PART OF THE CITIZENS GROUP THAT WORKED ON THE 2040 PLAN AND THE DESIGNATION OF THE 121 CORRIDOR FOR ENTERTAINMENT, I THINK WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, AND I THINK IT WILL PROVE TO BE A WISE DECISION. SO I'M I WANT TO MAKE IT KNOWN THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT, AND I LIKE THAT. BUT FOR PURPOSES OF THIS PROPERTY, I WANT TO SORT OF GIVE YOU WHAT I'M GOING TO CALL A MACRO VIEW. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A MICRO VIEW. THEN I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPERTY ITSELF FROM A MACRO PERSPECTIVE.

AND MR. WHATLEY, YOU ASKED A VERY PERTINENT QUESTION FOR MY DISCUSSION HERE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE 121 CORRIDOR AS DESIGNATED ENTERTAINMENT IN THE 2040 PLAN, AND YOU START AT HARDIN, WELL, ACTUALLY IT STARTS OVER AT 75. ALL OF THAT IS EITHER CARS OR APARTMENTS, RIGHT? SO YOU START AT HARDIN AND YOU GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO STACY. YOU HAVE TWO TRACTS OF UNDEVELOPED LAND THAT ARE UNDER PRIVATE OWNERSHIP. EVERYTHING ELSE IS OWNED BY THE MEDICI. AND THEY PURCHASED ALL THAT PROPERTY. MISS STRICKLAND WAS CORRECT IN 2018 FOR THE PURPOSE OF USING IT TO DEVELOP ENTERTAINMENT VENUES. I THINK IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, THAT WAS A WISE MOVE. IT WAS A GOOD USE OF THEIR FUNDS AND THAT HAS NOW BEEN REFLECTED IN THIS SURF MIXED USE PARK THAT WE'VE ALL HEARD ABOUT. THAT WAS I. I THINK THE AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE NCDC AND THE MEDICI TO SUPPORT THAT ARE DONE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AND THAT DEVELOPMENT IS AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF STACY IN 121. SO THAT'S THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY IN THIS ENTERTAINMENT ZONE. AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS TO BE ABLE TO DESCRIBE THEM FOR YOU, BUT THE MEDICI IS IN THE PROCESS OR IS IN THE. ITS MISSION IS TO ATTRACT THAT KIND OF USER. SO I'M GOING TO SURMISE THAT THEY GAVE THEM ONE HECK OF A DEAL ON THE LAND. AND I ALSO AM GOING TO SURMISE THAT THE MEDICI AND THE MCDC HAVE HIGHLY INCENTED THAT MIXED USE PROJECT, THAT SURF PARK. OKAY, AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S THE PROPER USE OF THEIR MONEY. GOOD VISION, GOOD FOLLOW THROUGH. THEY'RE STILL EVERYTHING FROM THERE UP TO MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY THAT IS OWNED BY THE MEDICI. HOPEFULLY THEY WILL CONTINUE WITH THE PROGRAM AND GET MORE IMPACTFUL ENTERTAINMENT USES THERE. MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY IS PRIVATELY OWNED. MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY DOESN'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THE INCENTIVES THAT IT CAN DRAW ON, LIKE THE MEDICI AND THE MCDC TO INCENT DEVELOPMENT THERE. SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, MY CLIENT IS AT A SIGNIFICANT DISADVANTAGE IN COMPETING WITH THE MEDICI PROPERTY FOR SIGNIFICANT, IMPACTFUL ENTERTAINMENT. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER WAY YOU CAN CUT IT. OKAY, SO THAT'S SORT OF THE MACRO VIEW OF WHAT I'M SEEING OUT THERE TODAY. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK JUST BECAUSE IT'S IN THE ENTERTAINMENT CENTER DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT ITS USE SHOULD BE ENTERTAINMENT, RETAIL, COMMERCIAL, ALL THAT STUFF. SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE MICRO VIEW FOR A SECOND. MR. CRAIG JUST TOLD US THAT THE CORNER THERE AT HARDIN HAS SOLD. I WAS UNAWARE OF THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. ANYTIME. IT'S PUBLIC RECORD. BUT SO THAT MEANS THAT THE ONLY UNDEVELOPED TRACT THAT'S PRIVATELY HELD IS MY CLIENT'S TRACT. THESE TWO PARCELS THAT ARE THAT'S BEEN BISECTED BY TINA CRAIG, TINA DRIVE. TODAY. THAT PROPERTY IS ZONED C3, WHICH IS YOUR HEAVIEST COMMERCIAL ZONE. AND YOU CAN GO DOWN THE LIST BECAUSE ALL OF YOU

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ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE LIST OF ALL OF THE KINDS OF USES THAT CAN GO IN C3. SOME OF THEM I WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO YOU. SOME OF THEM ARE SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC GENERATORS, SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC GENERATORS. SOME OF THEM CREATE SMELLS. SOME OF THEM HAVE LIGHTS ON ALL THE TIME. AND SO THOSE THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT THE ZONING TODAY WOULD ALLOW ON THIS PARTICULAR TRACT. MY CLIENT IS IN THE BUSINESS OF DEVELOPING LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSES, LIKE THE ONE THAT STUART DESCRIBED OVER ON HARDIN STREET. THAT'S AN EAST GROUP PROJECT.

AND THE INFORMATION I GET FROM THE NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST IN THE HORSESHOE BEND ESTATES IS THAT IS A VERY, VERY GOOD NEIGHBOR. NO NOISE, NO LIGHTS, VERY LIGHT TRAFFIC, VERY COMFORTABLE TO LIVE NEXT TO. IN MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY. WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF ISSUES. OKAY. AGAIN, FROM A MICRO PERSPECTIVE, WHILE IT HAS FRONTAGE ON THE TOLLWAYS ACCESS ROAD AND GOOD VISIBILITY, I'LL GRANT THAT IT HAS HORRIBLE ACCESS. IF I'M IN THE BUSINESS OF DEVELOPING SOMETHING, I WILL GIVE YOU VISIBILITY, BUT I CAN'T GIVE AWAY ACCESS. I'VE GOT TO HAVE GOOD ACCESS TO MAKE THAT WORK. AND I'M GOING TO DO A COUPLE THINGS HERE, AND I'M SURE I'M GOING TO MESS THESE UP. HOW DO I OOPS, HOW DO I GET FROM ONE SCREEN TO THE OTHER? OKAY. THIS OKAY. I'M GOING THE WRONG DIRECTION. I WANT TO TALK FOR A MINUTE ABOUT ACCESS BECAUSE ACCESS IS A CRITICAL DRAWBACK ON THIS TRACT. LET ME SEE IF THIS WILL GIVE ME SOME. DUDE, I'M GOING TO GET BACK INTO YOUR SLIDES. OKAY. THIS IS A GOOD SLIDE HERE OKAY. THIS IS THE. THIS IS THE HARDIN ROAD INTERSECTION. OOPS. SORRY. GO AHEAD OKAY. THIS IS THE HARDENED ROAD INTERSECTION. THIS IS THE INTERSECTION AT LAKE FOREST. AND MR. BUETTNER, THIS IS THE IS THE ONE OF THE MEDICI TRACTS. THERE ARE TWO MORE AS YOU GO FURTHER WEST. IF YOU WANT TO GET TO THIS PROPERTY AND YOU'RE COMING EAST ON SAM RAYBURN TOLLWAY, THE WAY YOU GET TO THE PROPERTY IS YOU HAVE TO DO THAT. TEXAS, TURN RIGHT HERE AND YOU CAN EITHER COME DOWN THE ACCESS ROAD OR YOU HAVE TO GO UP HERE TO COLLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY, WHICH IS A NEW INTRODUCTION INTO THIS PROPERTY RECENTLY DONE. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO COME DOWN COLLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY TO THIS PROPERTY. IF YOU'RE COMING. I'M GOING TO LEARN IT YET. IF YOU'RE COMING NORTH OR SOUTH ON HIGHWAY 75 AND YOU WANT TO GET TO THIS PROPERTY, GUESS WHAT? YOU'VE GOT TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND TO THE LAKE FOREST INTERSECTION AND THEN DO A U-TURN AND COME BACK HERE. OR YOU COULD GO UP HERE AND GO DOWN. COLLIN MCKINNEY.

UNLESS YOU LIVE IN THE AREA AND, YOU KNOW, TO TAKE THE ACCESS ROAD EXIT UP BY ELDORADO PARKWAY. AND THAT WAY YOU CAN SNEAK AROUND ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD. SO THIS PROPERTY DOES NOT HAVE GOOD ACCESS FOR ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES LOTS OF TRAFFIC. NOW THE OTHER THING, ANOTHER COUPLE THINGS ABOUT THE PROPERTY IS THIS PROPERTY HAS 35 KV POWER LINE HIGH VOLTAGE CONCRETE POLE POWER LINE THAT GOES ALL THE WAY ACROSS ITS FRONTAGE. AND GUESS WHAT? THOSE POLES STOP RIGHT HERE AT THIS UTILITY STATION AND THERE ARE NONE. AS YOU GO FURTHER WEST IN FRONT OF THE MEDICIS PROPERTY. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THE CITY AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO THE WEST,

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INCLUDING MR. CRAIG, WENT TO AUSTIN TO THE PUC, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO CHANGE THE ROUTING OF THIS MASTER LINE AND PUT IT ACROSS HERE AND MAKE IT GO THROUGH. ALLEN, THIS PROPERTY, MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY WAS NOT SO FORTUNATE. AND THE REASON IS THE BIG TRANSMISSION LINE COMES DOWN OVER HERE THAT FEEDS THAT POWER STATION. SO THAT'S ANOTHER NEGATIVE ABOUT DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY. SO ACCESS OR PROBLEMS. THE COMPETITION IS A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM. AND WE WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH. IF YOU TOOK THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS BEING PLANNED DOWN AT STACEY ROAD. AND BY THE WAY, THERE'S NO RESIDENTIAL AROUND THAT AT ALL. AND YOU PLOPPED IT IN HERE IN EITHER ONE OF MY CLIENT'S TRACKS THERE. IT'S GOING TO ADVERSELY IMPACT THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH. IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S NOT A 24 HOUR AMUSEMENT PARK, I'M SURE, BUT IT'S GOING TO HAVE LOTS OF TRAFFIC, LOTS OF NOISE, LOTS OF LIGHTS, LOTS OF ACTIVITY. NOT SOMETHING THAT THE AVALON COMMUNITY I'M SURE WOULD BE EXCITED ABOUT. SO WHAT ARE WE LEFT WITH? I THINK THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. MY CLIENT PLANS TO BUILD SOMETHING. WELL, I'M NOT DOING VERY GOOD HERE. LET'S SEE. TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT THE EAST GROUP HAS BUILT UP HERE. IT'S ALSO SIMILAR TO WHAT'S GOING ON ACROSS THE STREET OVER HERE.

THIS IS A LOW IMPACT, LOW TRAFFIC. NO LIGHTS, NO NOISE TYPE DEVELOPMENT. LET ME GET OVER AND SHOW YOU A FEW PICTURES OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. MY CLIENT IS THIS THIS PARTICULAR OWNER IS THE ROANOKE MANOR LLC, BUT IT'S OWNED BY THE VAN TRUST COMPANY. AND VAN TRUST IS ONE OF THE LARGEST LIGHT MANUFACTURING DEVELOPERS AND OWNERS IN THE SOUTHWEST. IT'S ALSO A BIG OFFICE DEVELOPER AND OWNER. TWO OF THE BIG TOWERS AT THE STAR. THIS CLIENT DEVELOPED AND OWNS.

SO THIS IS NOT A MID-GRADE OR LOW GRADE DEVELOPER. THIS IS THE TOP OF THE LINE. WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO PUT THERE IS THIS LAYOUT RIGHT HERE, THESE KIND OF FACADES. LET ME SEE IF I'VE GOT A UNIT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THIS IS THE PROPOSED LAYOUT FOR THE SITE. I KNOW THIS IS NOT A SITE PLAN HEARING. I DON'T WANT TO SORT OF SHOW YOU THE KIND OF CARE THAT WE'VE TAKEN TO ADDRESS THE NEIGHBORS AND THE AREA. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE FIRST THE FIRST PHASE. WILL BE THIS PHASE HERE.

AND THESE BUILDINGS HAVE THE MOTOR COURTS IN THE MIDDLE. THESE ARE WHERE THE TRUCKS ARE, WHERE THE LOADING DOCKS ARE. AND THEY'VE CREATED A FACADE HERE THAT'S GOING TO LOOK NOT LIKE A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BUILDING AS MUCH AS IT WILL MORE OF AN OFFICE OR OFFICE WAREHOUSE TYPE LOOK. OKAY, THIS WILL BE THE SECOND PHASE. AGAIN, WE'VE HAD TO ORIENT THESE BUILDINGS THIS WAY, BUT WE'VE GOT SHIELD WALLS RIGHT THERE AND RIGHT THERE. BUT THESE ARE MUCH SMALLER BAYS AND MUCH SMALLER OFFICES OR BUILDINGS. AND SO YOU WON'T HAVE THE KIND OF TRACTOR TRAILER USE THERE. OKAY. NOW THE OTHER THING ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, IN THIS IN THE METROPLEX AND IN OUR AREA IS THIS REALLY IS NOT A WAREHOUSE WHERE PEOPLE WHERE AMAZON SHIPS IN A TON OF BIG TRUCKS A DAY. THESE ARE TYPICALLY YOUR CRAFTSMEN THAT NEED A PLACE TO STORE THEIR. THEIR NOT THEIR EQUIPMENT. BUT LIKE, LET ME GIVE YOU AN AIR CONDITIONING COMPANY BUYS A WHOLE BUNCH OF AIR CONDITIONING UNITS. THEY DON'T JUST GO OUT AND BUY THEM WHENEVER THEY NEED THEM, THEY NEED A PLACE TO STORE THEM. SO THIS WOULD BE THE KIND OF USER

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THAT YOU WOULD HAVE. THE BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO BE LIKE 35FT TALL. SO ABOUT THE HEIGHT, LESS THAN A TWO STORY BUILDING. BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE. SO I THINK FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY'RE GOING TO BE VERY PLEASED WITH THAT. I'VE GOT SOME MORE PICTURES IN HERE. A LOT OF THIS IS WHAT THIS IS, THE QUALITY THAT MY CLIENT WILL DO. THIS IS A LANDSCAPE PLAN. HEAVILY TREED ALONG MCKINNEY PARKWAY AS A BUFFER. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WHAT'S THE TRAFFIC GOING TO BE THROUGH THE AVALON COMMUNITY? THERE'S NO REASON FOR ANYBODY TO GO THROUGH THE AVALON COMMUNITY TO GET TO THIS SITE, BECAUSE IT STARTS AT MCKINNEY RANCH, I GUESS, AND COMES THROUGH THERE. THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO COME TO THIS SITE ARE NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH AVALON. THEY'RE GOING TO COME FROM HARDIN, SAM RAYBURN OR LAKE FOREST. THESE ARE SIMILAR PROJECTS THAT MY CLIENT HAS DONE. SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS THIS WILL BE A FIRST CLASS PROJECT, LOW IMPACT. IT'LL PUT TAX DOLLARS, AD VALOREM TAX DOLLARS ON THE ROLLS, AND IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL. I DO WANT TO ADDRESS THE STAFF'S CONCERN ABOUT THIS SORT OF BEGINNING A WAVE OF INDUSTRIAL IN THE ENTERTAINMENT ZONE, AND I THINK I ANSWERED IT EARLY ON, BUT NOT DIRECTLY. THE ENTERTAINMENT ZONE IS NOW CONTROLLED BY THE MEDC, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THIS PROPERTY, SO I WOULDN'T BE CONCERNED IF I WERE THE CITY ABOUT SOMETHING MIGRATING WHERE IT ALL BECOMES INDUSTRIAL. OKAY, SO LET ME STOP THERE. ASK YOU FOR YOUR FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. THANK YOU. BOB. YES, QUESTIONS. I THINK TO MAYBE SAVE SOME TIME ASKING YOU TO COME BACK BECAUSE I'M GOING TO I'M ALWAYS GOING TO ASK, HAVE YOU HAD ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THE RESIDENTS? YES. IN FACT, THIS HAS BEEN A DISCUSSION WE'VE HAD FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. WE ACTUALLY HAD A VIRTUAL MEETING WITH THE WITH THEIR HOA REPRESENTATIVE, AND I THINK WE HAD 17. I COUNTED 17 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE DURING THAT. IT WAS ON APRIL THE 15TH, AND WE HAD A FAIRLY LONG WE GAVE THIS PRESENTATION OR SOMETHING SIMILAR, HAD A LOT OF DIALOG ABOUT IT. AND SO I THINK THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD A LIMITED NUMBER OF OBJECTIONS IS PROBABLY PRETTY GOOD FEEDBACK, THAT THE NEIGHBORS WOULD SUPPORT IT. THE TWO LARGER BUILDINGS IN PHASE ONE ARE HOW MANY DOORS ARE YOU ANTICIPATING THERE ON THAT INTERIOR COURT? AND I GUESS I WAS IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THIS COULD BECOME LIKE A DISTRIBUTION TYPE CENTER WITH A LARGER NUMBER OF TRUCKS? IT. MISS HAMMACK, I CAN'T TELL YOU. I YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THAT'S A THAT'S MORE OF A SITE PLAN ISSUE THAN A ZONING ISSUE. I DO KNOW THAT THE, THE KIND OF USES THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE EAST GROUPS BUILDING AND OTHER BUILDINGS AROUND ARE THAT LIMITED AMOUNT OF BIG TRUCKS, MOSTLY PANEL TRUCKS. AND, EXCUSE ME, THOSE KIND OF DELIVERY TRUCKS. CAN YOU FLIP BACK TO THE SITE PLAN? SURE I THINK LET'S SEE. THAT'S LANDSCAPING. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS THE FIRST PHASE. YES, YES. SO I GUESS WHAT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY IS IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S AN INTENT TO HAVE ANY TRAILER STORAGE ON SITE AS PART OF THIS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE. SO NO SITTING TRAILERS ON SITE OR ANYTHING. NO TRAILERS ON SITE. OKAY. WHICH WOULD ELIMINATE THE DISTRIBUTION QUESTIONS. THANKS. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU BOB. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. AND WE HAVE ONE PERSON REGISTERED, SUSIE WEST. WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? LET'S SEE. THANK YOU. I'M SUSIE WEST I LIVE AT 4500 OVENSHIRE WAY IN MCKINNEY, AND I GUESS I CAME HERE TO EMPHATICALLY SAY I REALLY DON'T WANT THIS HERE, BUT BUT NOW I HAVE QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT MIGHT NOT BE SUCH A BAD

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NEIGHBOR I LIVE. IF YOU'RE COMING DOWN, TINA, THERE'S MY HOUSE RIGHT AT THE END. SO I HEAR ALL THE TRAFFIC FROM 121. WE GET ALL THE EVERY TIME THE WIND BLOWS, THE TRASH COMES TO OUR YARD. BUT THAT'S OKAY. BUT I'M CONCERNED. I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE AND PERHAPS HEARING 18 WHEELERS AND THEIR BACKUP NOISE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. IS THIS PROPERTY GOING TO BE GOING TO LOOK LIKE THE ONE THAT IS OVER BY HORSESHOE BEND? IS THAT THE PLAN THAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE THAT? YES, MA'AM. SAME BUILDER OR SAME BUILDER, BUT IT'S GOING TO HAVE THAT SAME LOOK AND FEEL. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A BAD NEIGHBOR AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T CREATE A TON OF NOISE LATER DOWN THE ROAD. WHEN WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION A FEW YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS THAT CAME UP AND SPOKE AND SAID HE WAS IN THE BUSINESS OF DOING SOMETHING AND STARTING UP THESE TYPES OF PROPERTIES AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND THAT OFTENTIMES THEY STARTED OUT SAYING, WE'LL JUST OPERATE FROM 8 TO 5. WE WON'T OPERATE OVERNIGHT. BUT THEN AS THE YEARS GO ON, THEY GET NOISIER AND NOISIER OR ATTRACT CRIME. AND THAT I WOULD HATE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN IF IT REMAINS LIKE THE ONE OVER IN THAT CORNER BY HORSESHOE BEND, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A BAD NEIGHBOR, SO I'M AMBIVALENT AT THIS POINT. THE THOUGHT OF 18 WHEELERS COMING UP AND DOWN TINA ALL THE TIME. I DON'T LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY AROUND THAT, IF THERE'S A WAY THAT THEY COULD HAVE A DIFFERENT ENTRANCE AND NOT COME ON OUR LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD ROAD. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT COULD HAPPEN, BUT. I'M NOT FAMILIAR ENOUGH WITH THE C3. REQUIREMENTS THAT POTENTIALLY THAT COULD. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT COULD BE APARTMENTS OR OR WHAT COULD HAPPEN, HOW IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED, BUT I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF NO NOISE, NO LIGHTS. SO I'VE GONE ALL OVER THE PLACE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'VE CHANGED MY MIND A LITTLE BIT AS I'M HERE, BUT I STILL HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS WEST. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT? SEEING NO ONE? DO WE HAVE ANY MOTIONS? I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU.

CHARLES. MOTION TO CLOSE. JAMES. KEEP DOING THAT. I DID IT AGAIN. JAMES. I SECOND. WHO'S THAT? CHARLES. THAT TIME. THAT WAS CHARLES. I GOT MY BACK AND FORTH LIKE THIS. YOU TELL ME I DON'T TALK LOUD ENOUGH. AND WHEN I TALK LOUD ENOUGH, YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE MY VOICE. WE INCREASE YOUR MICROPHONE. ALL RIGHT? WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. 7 TO 0 MOTION PASSES. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. FURTHER DISCUSSION. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION OF STAFF AND. IS THAT'S ZONED C3. DO WE HAVE A POSSIBLY A TIME WHEN THAT WAS THAT ZONING WAS CREATED? I'M SORRY STUART, I'M ASKING QUESTIONS. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT YEAR. IT WASN'T VERY LONG AGO. I WANT TO SAY AROUND 2021, IT WAS REZONED. AND AT THAT SAME TIME, A SIMILAR PROPOSAL FOR AN SCP FOR WAREHOUSE WAS SUBMITTED AT THAT TIME. AND STAFF WAS ALSO NOT SUPPORTIVE. HOWEVER, THAT PROPOSAL WAS ULTIMATELY WITHDRAWN. OKAY. AND STUART, CAN YOU TOUCH JUST ON THE CITY'S SOUND ORDINANCE AND REQUIREMENTS FOR MISS WEST? I'M SORRY, THE CITY SOUND ORDINANCE AND REQUIREMENTS. YEAH. SO ANY BUILDING WITHIN THE CITY WE RELEVANT WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS FOR HOW LOUD DEVELOPMENTS CAN BE. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY RESTRICTED BY THE HOUR, I BELIEVE, BUT THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DECIBELS THAT THAT WE RESTRICT. AND IF DEVELOPMENT IS OVER THAT LIMIT, THEN WE CAN OR SOMEBODY CAN CALL THE LAW

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OFFICERS. COULD YOU FOR A SECOND TOUCH ON THE EXISTING ZONING OF C3? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S PRETTY I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY DESCRIBED AS AN INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A BETTER IDEA FOR HOW, FROM A IMPACT TO THE SURROUNDING AREA, STANFORD, HOW DIFFERENT THOSE YOU KNOW THAT EXISTING USE IS COMPARED TO WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THIS EVENING. YEAH. SO C3 OUT OF OUR THREE COMMERCIAL ZONINGS WOULD BE THE MORE INTENSE ONE. IT IS THE SAME ZONING THAT YOU'LL FIND TO THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST AND TO THE EAST. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE LAST VACANT PROPERTIES ALONG 121 THAT IS VACANT. AND SO IT THE REASON IT IS, HAS BECOME C3 IS FOR, FOR DEVELOPMENTS SUCH AS MALLS AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

BUT IT IS CERTAINLY ONE OF OUR MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL ZONINGS. THANK YOU. THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREET, TINA, I UNDERSTAND LIKE FROM 121 UP TO COLUMN MCKINNEY COULD HAVE THE TRUCK TRAFFIC, BUT I'M ASSUMING GOING NORTH INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF AVALON, THAT WOULD BE A LOAD ZONE ROAD WHERE TRUCKS WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IS THAT IS THAT CORRECT? SO THEY COULD GO THROUGH A COLLIN MCKINNEY PARKWAY, BUT THEY WOULDN'T GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. THERE WOULD BE SIGNAGE OR WHATEVER TO THERE WOULDN'T BE SIGNAGE. THEY ARE PUBLIC STREETS, SO THEY COULD BE UTILIZED IF THEY WANTED TO. I DON'T THINK THAT THEY WILL, BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY PRETTY TIGHT OF TURNS TO GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT TECHNICALLY IT IS A PUBLIC STREET. OKAY. THANK YOU STUART. ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS? WE DID CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THAT RIGHT? SO WHAT WE DID, WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE DID. I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. AND THIS IS A STAFF IN THE CURRENT C3 ZONING.

AND I'VE GOTTEN OLDER. IT TAKES ME A LONG TIME TO FIND THINGS. BUT I'M LOOKING FOR COULD A CAR DEALERSHIP GO THERE RIGHT NOW? AND AUTO SALES WOULD REQUIRE AN SUP. SO IT WOULD GO BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY APPROVED OR DISAPPROVED BY COUNCIL. OKAY.

THANK YOU. WITH THE NEW LEGISLATION CHANGE, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX COULD GO COULD GO THERE WITH THE NEW LEGISLATION. CORRECT. I'M GOING TO DEFER TO KATE. SEPTEMBER 1ST COMMERCIAL ZONING COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE A MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX THERE. YES. IS THAT BY RIGHT OR IS THAT GOING TO ALSO REQUIRE A SUP COME SEPTEMBER WOULD BE BY RIGHT. IT'S 1:00. YEAH. DOES THE SAME HOLD TRUE FOR A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING? LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING HAS SOME HEAVIER INDUSTRIAL USES, SO WE WOULD NOT SEE MULTIFAMILY IN THOSE AREAS THEN. THE LEGISLATURE DOES NOT SPEAK TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. OKAY. YEAH. IT ONLY REGULATES WITHIN HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU AGAIN. MOTION. I'LL JUST MAKE A COMMENT. YOU KNOW I, I DON'T SEE I SEE THIS THIS THIS POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AS SOMETHING THAT SUPPORTS THE RIGHTS OF THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER. IF WE WERE TO APPROVE IT. AND I DON'T SEE IT IMPINGING ON THE RIGHTS OF THE RESIDENTS AS MUCH. AND I THINK WE PROBABLY WHAT I HEARD WAS THAT IT PROBABLY WILL MAKE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. AND I AGREE WITH THAT. AND I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY SOME BENEFIT THERE FOR THESE TYPES OF BUILDINGS, REALLY, FOR THOSE RESIDENTS TO BE ASSEMBLED, THERE'LL PROBABLY BE A SOUND BREAK TO THEIR, YOU KNOW, AGAINST THE TRAFFIC NOISE. SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I, I GUESS I

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WOULD SUPPORT THIS APPROVING THIS DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL, SET A MOTION. YEAH. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CAN WE JUST I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. ARE YOU WANTING TO APPROVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OR YOU WHAT DO YOU WANT TO KNOW, SIR? I'M RECOMMENDING WE APPROVE THE PROJECT AND NOT APPROVE. GO AGAINST THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. OH, I HAVE A MOTION BY RUSSELL TO APPROVE THE ITEM. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. GENE IS A SECOND. WELL, ONCE AGAIN, I'M STILL CONFUSED BECAUSE STAFF SAYS TO DENY IT. YES, THEY DENIED IT, BUT WE'RE APPROVING IT. THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE. APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE FOR APPLICANT'S REQUEST.

YEAH, OKAY. THAT'S THE WAY WE NEED TO SAY IT THEN. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE ITEM FOR APPLICANT'S REQUEST. YES. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THE ITEM IS APPROVED 7 TO 0, AND BE FORWARDED ON TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION ON SEPTEMBER 2ND, 2025. NEXT WE

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District to “C2” - Local Commercial District, Located on the Northwest corner of FM 1461 and Aster Park Trail]

HAVE OUR SIXTH ITEM THAT IS ITEM NUMBER 250074Z. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS ACT ON REQUEST TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM PD TO C2. LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF FM 1461 AND ASTOR PARK TRAIL. JAKE. YES. THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN. GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

COMMISSION JAKE BENNETT, PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM PD TO C2 IN ORDER TO PERMIT COMMERCIAL USES AT THE CORNER OF FUTURE LOT PARKWAY AND ASTOR PARK TRAIL. THE EXISTING PD ALLOWS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES, BUT THE ADJACENT ROADWAYS AND FLOODPLAINS SOMEWHAT ISOLATE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM DEVELOPING COHESIVELY WITH THE REST OF THE SURROUNDING SUBDIVISIONS. STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS IN AN OPPORTUNE LOCATION TO OFFER COMMERCIAL USES THAT SERVE THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS, AND THE REZONING SHOULD NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT ADJACENT PROPERTIES. AS SUCH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED REZONING REQUEST, AND I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. JAKE. YES, QUESTIONS. ABOUT THE FUTURE LOT. HOW IS THE CURRENT 1461? THAT'S CORRECT. ALONG THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY, MA'AM.

THANKS, JAKE. THE APPLICANT HERE. TONIGHT. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT? SIR, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES.

OKAY. COME FORWARD. HAVE YOU FILLED OUT A YELLOW CARD YET? SO I. WE CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOU UNTIL YOU GET IN THE MICROPHONE. OH, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME. YES. COME RIGHT. COME RIGHT AHEAD. MY NAME IS SURESH AND MY ADDRESS IS 6829 OLIVE BRANCH AVENUE, MCKINNEY, TX 74 IS JUST BESIDE MY HOUSE.

THE ONE COMING UP AFTER 7475. MY HOUSE IS SQUEEZED BETWEEN THOSE TWO. SO I REGISTERED HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE 75. SO THE REASON I CAME FORWARD TO TALK ABOUT THE 74 TWO. SO IF YOU IF I CAN WAIT AND TALK FOR 75, I CAN TALK FOR BOTH OF THEM AT ONCE. OKAY. WELL GIVE YOUR GIVE YOUR TALK. OKAY. SO THE ASTOR PARK IS THE NEWLY BUILT COMMUNITY, AND THE PEOPLE ARE STILL COMING FOR THE NEW HOUSES. THESE THESE HOUSES ARE, LIKE, SQUEEZED IN BETWEEN 74 AND 75. THERE IS NO WAY FOR THE PEOPLE, LIKE FOR CHILDREN AND EVERYONE GO OUTSIDE AND HAVE A WALK BECAUSE THE BUILDING, THE 74 CONVERTING INTO RETAIL ZONE AND 75 CONVERTING INTO RETAIL ZONE, THERE WILL BE LIKE A LOT OF TRAFFIC. SO THE REQUEST IS TO MAKE THE AMENDMENTS TO PRESERVE THE GREEN SPACE, AT LEAST FOR THE 75, AND PUT A DIFFERENT ENTRANCE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STONE GATE DRIVE. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S IT ABOUT. OKAY. I'M SORRY. I'M I'M CONFUSED WHERE YOU'RE HERE TO

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SPEAK ABOUT BOTH BOTH OF THE THIS ONE AND THEN ALSO THE NEXT ONE. NEXT ONE BOTH RELATED TO THE SAME SITE TO SITE. OKAY. SO IF I CAN SHOW THE 75, I CAN EXPLAIN WHAT I'M TRYING TO. IS IT CAN YOU OR YOU WANT TO SEE THE NEXT ONE. NEXT ONE NEXT ONE. YES. OKAY. GO AHEAD AND GO AHEAD AND PRESENT WHAT YOU HAVE TO PRESENT. IF IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH ANOTHER ONE, THEN YOU'VE PRESENTED IT FOR THIS ONE. AND THAT'S FINE. GO AHEAD. YOU GOT TWO MINUTES LEFT OKAY. CAN I COME FOR THE NEXT ONE? I CAN EXPLAIN BETTER FOR THE NEXT ONE IF I CAN SEE THE PICTURE HERE.

BUT WE'RE NOT ON THAT ONE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL ABOUT THIS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? WE'LL MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM. 25000740 WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THANK YOU. CHARLES. SECOND. SECOND. MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM. CAN YOU GIVE ME BACK? PLEASE? CAST YOUR VOTE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. VOTE WAS 7 TO 0 TO APPROVE THE MOTION. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED AND WE APPROVE THE ITEM AND BE FORWARDED ON TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION ON SEPTEMBER THE 2ND, 2025. OUR NEXT TO THE LAST. NO. WE GOT THREE MORE. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. OUR SEVENTH ITEM

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District to “C2” - Local Commercial District, Located on the West Side of North Stonebridge Drive and West of Coughlin Parkway]

IS ITEM NUMBER 250075Z. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS ACT ON A REQUEST TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM PD TO C2. LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF NORTH STONEBRIDGE AND WEST OF COUGHLIN PARKWAY. YES. THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN. SIMILAR TO THE LAST CASE, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF STONEBRIDGE DRIVE AND COUGHLIN PARKWAY TO C2. AGAIN, THIS PROPERTY IS BUFFERED FROM SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL USES BY FLOODPLAIN AND ARTERIAL ROADWAYS. STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY COULD OFFER VALUABLE COMMERCIAL USES THAT SERVE THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND AS SUCH, WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED REZONING. I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. JAKE. YES, QUESTIONS. SO THE ROAD THERE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THIS TRACT, THAT'S THE FUTURE. STONEBRIDGE. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. THE ONE THAT'S RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH.

COUGHLIN RUNS EAST AND WEST AND WILL EVENTUALLY PUNCH THROUGH THE NORTHERN PART OF THIS PROPERTY. BOTH ARE ARTERIAL ROADWAYS. ARTERIAL. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO ASK. HOW MUCH OF IT THE OF THIS TRACT IS IN FLOODPLAIN. THERE'S QUITE A BIT. SO IT'S ABOUT A LITTLE UNDER TEN AND A HALF ACRES I BELIEVE, OVERALL. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT ENTIRE WESTERN AND SOUTHERN BOUNDARY THAT IS THE CENTER POINT OF THE CREEK. SO YOU CAN SEE ALL THAT HEAVILY TREED AREA KIND OF ALONG THAT. IMAGINE MUCH OF THAT IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN. SO IT DOESN'T LEAVE VERY MUCH TO BE DEVELOPED. AGAIN, IT IS AT THE AT A HARD CORNER OF TWO ARTERIAL ROADWAYS BUFFERED FROM ALL ADJACENT PROPERTIES. ESSENTIALLY, RIGHT NOW IT'S ZONED WITHIN PD FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND DUE TO THE LOCATIONS OF THE ARTERIAL ROADWAYS AND THE FLOODPLAIN, IT'S JUST IT'S NOT GOING TO OFFER A VERY COHESIVE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE REST OF THE SUBDIVISION. THE PD DOES IT IS IT THE SAME PD THAT'S FOR ASTOR PARK? THAT'S CORRECT. IT JUST TRANSFERS OVER ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD. THAT'S CORRECT. AND IT'S THE SAME DEVELOPER AS OF ASTOR PARK THAT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES.

SO. OKAY. JAKE, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? I KNOW IT'S THE SAME APPLICANT, SO. YEP. NOT HERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING THAT WILL OPEN AT THIS TIME. IS ANYONE WISHING TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I'M SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION EARLIER. THAT'S OKAY. MY NAME IS BACK UP FOR HIM. I THINK HE WAS WANTING TO. MY NAME IS SPELLED WRONG. MY NAME IS SURESH NAYAGAM AND I'M FROM THE 6829 OLIVE BRANCH AVENUE. MY HOUSE IS RIGHT BEHIND THAT GREEN SPACE AREA. SO ALL THE ALL THE HOUSES ARE CURRENTLY PEOPLE ARE MOVING

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THERE. THIS IS THE NEWLY BUILT COMMUNITY. MANY OF THE PEOPLE SIGNED ARE IN THAT LANE. MANY OF THE PEOPLE SIGNED THE PAPER AND I SUBMITTED THE SIGNATURES. SO THE MAIN CONCERN IS THE 75.

WHATEVER THEY ARE BUILDING, THEY ARE BUILDING RIGHT OF MIDDLE OF NOWHERE IN BETWEEN THE GREEN ZONE. WHEN THE BUILDER SOLD THESE HOUSES, THEY DIDN'T EXPLAIN ABOUT THIS RETAIL PLAN.

AND WE PAID THE HUGE PREMIUMS JUST TO HAVE THE GREEN LOT ON THE BACK BACKYARD. NOW THEY INTRODUCE THE ALL OF SUDDEN, THIS RETAIL CENTER RIGHT BEHIND OUR HOMES AND GOING TO TAKE AWAY ALL THE GREENS. SO WHENEVER, WHENEVER WE TAKE A WALK TO OUTSIDE THE ALL THE CARS AND ALL THE TRAFFIC IS GOING RIGHT INTO THAT NEW RETAIL ZONE. SO MY REQUEST IS IF YOU ARE, I MEAN, IF POSSIBLE, PLEASE DO NOT CONVERT INTO THE INDUSTRIAL RETAIL ZONE. EVEN IF YOU DO, THERE ARE TWO THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK. ONE IS PRESERVE THAT GREEN ZONE THROUGHOUT THAT LINE OF THE STONE. STONE. GREAT. IT'S ACTUALLY THE STONEBRIDGE DRIVE. PRESERVE THE GREEN. AND ALSO, IF POSSIBLE, BLOCK THE ENTRANCE THERE AND PUT THE ENTRANCE ON THE PARKWAY. THOSE ARE THE TWO REQUESTS. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. I MEAN, IF ANYTHING DIDN'T UNDERSTAND, I'LL TRY TO EXPLAIN AGAIN. OKAY. WE DO HAVE YOUR PETITION OPPOSING THE ZONING CHANGE. YES. OKAY.

THERE'S FIVE NAMES ON HERE. AND THERE ARE THERE IS TWO MORE ITEMS. CAN THIS THIS IS ANOTHER ONE WHERE THERE ARE MORE SIGNS AND PEOPLE ARE MOVING MORE NEXT WEEK AND THEY ARE READY TO COME AND THEN EXPLAIN THE SITUATION. IF YOU WANT TO TURN THE EXTRA TWO NAMES IN OVER THERE, YOU CAN. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT? YES, SIR. COME RIGHT FORWARD. HAVE YOU FILLED OUT A YELLOW CARD YET? WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SPEAK AND FILL OUT ONE BEFORE YOU LEAVE, OKAY? YELLOW CARD. SO WE HAVE REGISTRATION OF YOUR SPEECH? NO, I HAVEN'T LOOKED FOR. YEAH. GO AHEAD AND TALK AND THEN AND GET ONE OF THE CARDS AND FILL IT OUT AFTERWARDS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH. SO MY NAME IS PERNA. I LIVE IN SIX EIGHT, TWO FIVE OLIVE BRANCH AVENUE. SO I AM THE RESIDENT NEAR THE PROPERTY. SO I'M SPEAKING TODAY TO OPPOSE THE PROPOSED ZONING BECAUSE IT WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT OUR OUR COMMUNITY. FIRST IS LIKE WE VALUE OUR GREEN SPACES. AND SECOND IS TRAFFIC IS ALREADY A CONCERN. AND THIRD IS PRIVACY. AND LASTLY, I'M NOT AGAINST ALL DEVELOPMENT, BUT. RESPECTFULLY, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF YOU CAN, IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES. BETTER BALANCED GROWTH IN QUALITY OF LIFE BY BY SAVING MORE TREES. AND PROTECTING SOME GREEN SPACE AROUND THAT AREA. MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS SHARE THIS CONCERN. SO I WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, BRING THIS TO THE TO YOUR NOTICE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK COME FORWARD NOW. SEEING NONE. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION OR MOTION? I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION. STAFF, IS THERE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR THIS ACREAGE? NO, THIS IS JUST A STRAIGHT REZONING REQUEST TO BASE C-2. APPLICANT HASN'T SHARED ANY, YOU KNOW, PLANS OR AT LEAST ANY OFFICIAL SUBMITTALS OF WHAT COULD GO HERE WITH THE C-2 ZONING. IT'S KIND OF MIDDLE OF THE PACK AS FAR AS COMMERCIAL. SO GAS STATIONS, DRIVE THRUS, A LOT OF THOSE THINGS WOULD LIKELY REQUIRE SUPS AT THIS LOCATION DUE TO THE LOW DUE TO THE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL, EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD PROBABLY BE DEEMED, YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY LOW INTENSITY AS FAR AS THE USES GO FOR COMMERCIAL. THANKS, JAKE. THANK YOU. JAKE, AM I CORRECT TO ASSUME THAT SINCE THIS IS JUST A STRAIGHT REZONE, THE RESIDENTS CONCERNS WOULD BE ADDRESSED AT A SITE PLAN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? IT LIKELY WOULD BE ADDRESSED AT THE SITE PLAN STAGE. I THINK I HEARD POTENTIALLY DRAINAGE AND THEN SOME SOME ITEMS WITH LOCATION OF DRIVEWAY SPACING. THOSE WOULD HAVE TO MEET OUR ENGINEERING REQUIREMENTS, OUR ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL. THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE SPACING STANDARDS ALONG THOSE ROADWAYS FOR THOSE DRIVEWAYS. BUT YEAH, IF THERE'S AS FAR AS ANY PROPOSED KIND OF MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES, THOSE WOULD LIKELY REQUIRE OR WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED ON THE PROPERTY. SO IT MAY OR MAY NOT

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BE JUST A STAFF LEVEL APPROVAL AT THE SITE PLAN STAGE, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE USE IS.

OKAY. AND STONEBRIDGE AS AN ARTERIAL, THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE LIKE A FOUR LANE DIVIDED, OR I'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK IN THE STAFF REPORT. I BELIEVE IT'S EITHER 4 OR 6 DIVIDED. YEAH. SO, JAKE, COULD YOU MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THE RESIDENTS HAVE THAT INFORMATION? YEAH, I CAN PROVIDE THEM THE, THE CONTACT FOR THE APPLICANT AND THEN SO THEY CAN BE IN TOUCH WITH THEM DIRECTLY.

OKAY. JAKE, DO YOU KNOW ON THE THERE'S THE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE 15 FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT AND THE 40 FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT. WHAT ARE THOSE FLOW? DO THOSE GO UNDER FUTURE STONEBRIDGE RIGHT NOW OR I AM UNSURE. WITH IT BEING A ZONING, WE DON'T REALLY LOOK AT THE EASEMENTS AT THAT POINT, LIKE AT THAT POINT UNTIL IT'S ACTUALLY BEING DEVELOPED. UNSURE IF THOSE EASEMENTS WOULD BE REMAINING WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED. ANYTHING KIND OF TO DO WITH THOSE AT THIS POINT? YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU. JAKE, WE CAN HAVE A MOTION. I MOVE, WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE. ITEM 25 0075. THANK YOU, CHARLES, FOR THE MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? JESSE. THANK YOU. MOTION IN A SECOND.

APPROVE THE ITEM. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. 7 TO 0. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED AND THE ITEM IS APPROVED AND WILL BE PASSED ON TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION ON SEPTEMBER THE 2ND, 2025. NOW WE HAVE OUR NEXT TO LAST ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 250094Z. CONDUCT A

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “L1” - Light Industrial District and “C3” - Regional Commercial District to “I1” - Light Industrial District, Located on the East Side of North Central Expressway and Approximately 1,400 Feet South of Bloomdale Road]

PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS ACT ON A REQUEST TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM L1 INDUSTRIAL AND C-3 REGIONAL COMMERCIAL TO L1 INDUSTRIAL. LOCATED ON NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY AND APPROXIMATELY 1400 FEET SOUTH OF BLOOMDALE JAKE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU AGAIN. MR. CHAIRMAN. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM C3 AND LEE TO A CONSISTENT ZONING OF I-1 ACROSS THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. THE COMP PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA IS THE EMPLOYMENT MIX PLACE TYPE, WHICH I-1 IS A DEFINING, DEFINING ZONING DISTRICT OF THE GENERAL AREA IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED AS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES, AND THE PROPOSED REZONING SHOULD NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT ANY SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. AS SUCH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED REZONING AND I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. WHY GET RID OF C3 IN THIS AREA? WHEN YOU SAID IT WAS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, GENERALLY SPEAKING, BUT THIS IS CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY. IT IS CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY IN THE COMP PLAN. SO UNLIKE THE OTHER REQUESTED ZONING TO I-1 EARLIER IN THE COMP PLAN, THAT DESIGNATION, THAT AREA WAS DESIGNATED AND SOUGHT AFTER FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT IN THIS AREA. THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN ENVISIONED AS AN INDUSTRIAL AREA. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SURROUNDING AREA, THERE'S THE PUMP STATION, THERE'S EXISTING WAREHOUSES AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES. THERE'S THE KIND OF CONTRACTOR'S YARD THAT'S LOCATED THERE. TO THE NORTH, THERE'S TRACTOR SUPPLY TO THE SOUTH. IT HASN'T DEVELOPED AS COMMERCIAL USES YET TODAY, AND A LITTLE OVER HALF THE PROPERTY IS ALREADY ZONED FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES. SO BASED ON THE COMP PLAN AND WHAT'S ALREADY PERMITTED THERE, WHAT'S IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, STAFF DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT A REZONING TO I-1 WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT ANY OF THE SURROUNDING AREA OR THAT CORRIDOR. HOW MANY ACRES IS THAT? C2, C3, APPROXIMATELY THE C3. I'D HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT FIVE ACRES, FIVE AND A HALF ACRES. MAYBE. MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THAT, ACTUALLY. OKAY, JAKE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN. THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, SIR. SORRY YOU HAD TO WAIT SO LONG. BROCK CORBETT, I'M WITH KIMLEY-HORN, WHERE THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, 260 EAST DAVIS STREET HERE IN MCKINNEY. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT YEAH, JUST LOOKING FOR STRAIGHT REZONE TO THE I-1 DISTRICT. WHAT DO YOU HAVE PLANNED FOR THAT WAREHOUSE? LIGHT MANUFACTURING. WE KNOW ABOUT THAT. YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? NO, I SEE NONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR

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COMING. THANK YOU. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT? SEEING NONE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR COULD WE HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE. ITEM 25-0094 AS PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. DEIDRE. MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. SECOND. SECOND. THANK YOU GINA. MOTION A SECOND TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION PASSES 7 TO 0 VOTE AND WILL BE FORWARDED ON TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION ON SEPTEMBER 2ND, 2025. NOW COMING TO OUR LAST ITEM. ITEM NUMBER

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District and “AG” - Agriculture District to “I1” - Light Industrial District, Located at 3933 County Road 317]

250095Z. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACT ON A REQUEST TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM PD TO TA AND AG TO AGRICULTURE DISTRICT TO L1 TO L1. LOCATED AT 3933 COUNTY ROAD 31 SEVEN. JAKE. AGAIN. THANK YOU AGAIN, CHAIRMAN. LAST TIME WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HEAR FROM ME TONIGHT. SO THE APPLICANT REQUEST TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM PD TO LEE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT, LOCATED JUST NORTH OF FUTURE FM 546 AND JUST SOUTH OF THE SPUR 399 EXTENSION. SIMILAR TO THE LAST CASE, THE PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED AS THE EMPLOYMENT MIX PLACE TYPE IN THE COMP PLAN. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE BUSINESS AND AVIATION DISTRICT, WHICH IS HEAVILY FOCUSED ON LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. TYPES OF USES. SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED, USED OR FORECAST TO DEVELOP AS INDUSTRIAL USES. AS SUCH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED REZONING AND I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. JAKE. YES. ANY QUESTIONS OR JAKE. ALL RIGHT. I THINK YOU'RE GOOD, JAKE. THANK YOU. YEP. WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE. OKAY. GOOD APPLICANT. COME UP. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS RYAN JOYCE WITH MICHAEL JOYCE PROPERTIES, 767 JUSTIN ROAD, ROCKWALL, TEXAS. 75087. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING, AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU AGAIN. WE'RE ACTUALLY THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY TO THE EAST. AND THEN WE ACTUALLY CLOSED ON THIS PROPERTY YESTERDAY. I THOUGHT THERE MAY BE A FEW QUESTIONS GIVEN THAT THIS IS THE CURRENTLY THE CORNERSTONE MINISTRIES PROPERTY. SO I JUST WANTED TO WALK THROUGH A FEW THINGS WITH YOU WITH THAT, AND THEN WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

FIRST OFF, I ALWAYS LIKE TO START OFF WITH OUR COMPANY CORE VALUES. THIS IS WHO WE ARE. THIS IS WHAT WE BELIEVE IN. MICHAEL JOYCE PROPERTIES IS A SMALL COMPANY. IT'S MY WIFE AND MYSELF. WE HAVE FIVE OTHER STAFF MEMBERS THERE IN OUR OFFICE, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE BELIEVE IN INTEGRITY, PEOPLE, FAMILY AND FAITH. THIS IS WHAT DRIVES OUR DECISIONS EVERY DAY. THIS IS HOW WE LIVE. THIS IS THIS IS HOW WE WORK. AND ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE WELL VETTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ALSO BELIEVE IN THESE VALUES. SO THIS IS KIND OF HOW WE OPERATE ON A DAILY BASIS. THE SUBJECT SITE IS FOR JUST UNDER 42 ACRES JUST THERE SOUTHEAST OF THE AIRPORT. AND IT DOES KIND OF IT DOES HOUSE THE CURRENT CORNERSTONE RANCH MINISTRIES OPERATION. FUTURE LAND USE IS IN THE BUSINESS AND AVIATION DISTRICT, WHICH IS SLATED FOR FUTURE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. OOPS.

AND AT THIS TIME, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS FOR ANYTHING. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET STRAIGHT ZONING ON THE PROPERTY. AND SO YOU CAN SEE HERE WITH A MULTITUDE OF DIFFERENT MIXES. SO CORNERSTONE MINISTRIES ACTUALLY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE A NEW PROPERTY UP NEAR WESTON.

AND THEY ARE EXPANDING THEIR OPERATIONS. SO THEY PUT THIS PROPERTY ON THE MARKET TO SELL.

THIS IS GOING TO BENEFIT THEM GREATLY. WE ARE ACTUALLY GIVING THEM A THREE YEAR LEASE BACK AT ZERO COST. SO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO STAY ON THE PROPERTY FOR AN ADDITIONAL THREE YEARS.

THEY HAVE ALREADY BROKEN GROUND ON THEIR NEW FACILITIES UP NEAR WESTON. SO THIS INFLUX OF CASH FROM THE SALE OF THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO HELP THEM TREMENDOUSLY AS THEY EXPAND AND HELP THEM GROW THE SERVICES THAT THEY OFFER TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. SO IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR CORNERSTONE. LIKE I SAID, WE CLOSED ON THE PROPERTY YESTERDAY, SO THEY ARE OFF AND RUNNING. WE EXPECT THEM TO BE FINISHED OR THEY EXPECT TO BE FINISHED WITH THEIR NEW FACILITY, PROBABLY SOMETIME IN THE NEXT 18 TO 24 MONTHS. BUT LIKE I SAID, THEY DO HAVE A THREE YEAR LEASE BACK, ZERO CHARGE TO THEM WHATSOEVER FOR THAT. I ALSO WANTED TO SHOW

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THIS. SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS JUST NORTH OF THE FUTURE 546 EXPANSION. YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THIS HERE SLIDE, WITH THE CENTER LINE BEING IN GREEN AND THEN THE RED LINE BEING THE RIGHT OF WAY.

THE PROPOSED RIGHT OF WAY FOR THAT EXPANSION. SO THIS IS JUST ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT FUTURE. IT'S GOING TO BE A SIX LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY, TYPICALLY PER THE COMP PLAN, EVERYTHING NORTH OF 546 IS GOING TO BE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. AND THEN EVERYTHING SOUTH OF 546 IS GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL. WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG EVENING, SO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? I JUST HAVE A COMMENT. I HAVE LONG BEEN ACQUAINTED WITH CORNERSTONE, AND SO I CAN CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE MAKING THIS, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO MOVE AND THEN GIVING THEM SUCH, YOU KNOW, AGREEABLE TERMS. OH, ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. THEY THEY DO A GREAT WORK. AND I KNOW THAT LAST TIME ACTUALLY, LAST TIME I WAS HERE, THEY HAD A PRESENTATION HERE WITH SOME OF THEIR RESIDENTS.

AND SO REALLY, THEY DO REALLY GREAT WORK. AND SO WE'RE HAPPY TO FACILITATE THAT. YEAH. I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING THAT WILL OPEN NOW. IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. COME FORWARD NOW PLEASE. I SEE NONE. WE HAVE A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE.

ITEM 2250095Z. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM SECOND. I'LL SECOND THAT. RUSS A SECOND BY RUSSELL CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING. APPROVE THE ITEM. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION PASSES 7 TO 0 TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM, AND BE FORWARDED ON TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION ON SEPTEMBER THE 2ND, 2025. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY

[COMMISSION AND STAFF COMMENTS]

MATTERS, NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, SEEING NONE. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF, ANY MORE LONG ONES COMING FORWARD? I DID HAVE ONE ITEM. OUR NEW PLANNING DIRECTOR HAS BEEN SELECTED, LUCAS ROWLEY, SO HE WILL BE AT OUR NEXT MEETING. SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO Y'ALL GETTING TO MEET HIM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. HOW ABOUT A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED.

JESSE. THANK YOU. CHARLES. I SAW HIM GO FORWARD. I WAS ABOUT TO. YEAH. CHARLES. OKAY. CHARLES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU. JESSE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.