Aug 19, 2025 City Council Work Session

[CALL TO ORDER]

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RICK. YOU GOOD? YOU GOOD? YEAH. I'M GOOD. JUSTIN. GOOD AFTERNOON. IT'S 3:05 P.M.

WELCOME TO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION. TUESDAY, AUGUST THE 19TH, 2025.

[Police Department Officer Recognition Program]

WHILE SEVERAL OFFICERS ENGAGED THE SUSPECT, OTHER OFFICERS SAFELY EVACUATED THE WIFE AND DAUGHTER. THE SUSPECT WAS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY, AND DURING THE COURSE OF THE ARREST, SERGEANT WILKERSON SUSTAINED OR SUFFERED A SEVERE, SEVERE LACERATION TO HIS LEFT INDEX FINGER, AND THAT REQUIRED SURGERY AND EIGHT WEEKS OF LIGHT DUTY. THESE OFFICERS DEMONSTRATED EXCEPTIONAL COURAGE, TEAMWORK AND COMPOSURE IN A DANGEROUS AND VOLATILE SITUATION. THEIR ACTIONS LED TO THE SAFE RESCUE OF TWO VICTIMS AND THE RESOLUTION OF A POTENTIALLY DEADLY ENCOUNTER.

I'M HONORED TO PRESENT THESE OFFICERS WITH THE CHIEF'S CHALLENGE COIN IN RECOGNITION OF THEIR BRAVERY AND PROFESSIONALISM AND EXCELLENCE IN SERVICE, SO I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE EACH ONE OF THEM A CHALLENGE COIN. AND THEN, MAYOR, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, INVITE YOU IN THE COUNCIL DOWN TO TAKE A PICTURE WITH THESE OFFICERS. OF COURSE.

DOWN HERE, IF YOU DON'T MIND. SIR. THANK YOU. GUYS. ONE. TWO THREE.

THE ITEMS THAT WERE ADDED ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THEY WERE ADDED. IN CHAPTER 42. OH, YEAH.

YEAH, THAT WAS THE FIRE. OPIOIDS. THE OPIOIDS. BASICALLY. ALL THE NUMBERS. EVERY ONE OF THESE CHANGED. YEAH. BECAUSE YOU HAVE YOUR TMP. CHIEF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT WITH

[PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS]

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I KNOW WE CAN DO BETTER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS BROWN. PAUL BALLESTEROS. NO PROPS. GOOD

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BUT WHAT I DO BELIEVE IS THAT EVERYBODY EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS CAN GET OUT OF IT.

WE CAN'T END IT AS A CONCEPT. WE CAN END IT FOR A PERSON, BUT IT REQUIRES GETTING TO KNOW THAT PERSON AND UNDERSTANDING THEIR UNIQUE SITUATION, WHICH IS AS UNIQUE AS THEIR FINGERPRINT. AND SO IT REALLY REQUIRES US TO TAKE THE TIME TO GET TO KNOW THAT PERSON. THE LAST THING I'D SAY, THE ORDINANCE ABOUT THE SIDEWALK SITTING, I KNOW THAT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WHAT HAPPENED? AND I WAS TOLD THAT THESE WOULD APPLY TO ALL CITIZENS. SO WHAT HAPPENS AT JULY 4TH OR THE CHRISTMAS PARADE WHEN THERE'S HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE SITTING ON SIDEWALKS THERE? SO JUST ASKING FOR MORE CONVERSATION, THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU PAUL. THANKS, PAUL. ANYONE ELSE THAT HAS NOT CHECKED IN? YES, SIR. WE COULD BE INVITING IN, MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MATT HAMILTON ON SEVERAL BUSINESSES IN DOWNTOWN. I'VE OWNED BUSINESSES IN DOWNTOWN FOR 15 YEARS. I'VE LIVED IN DOWNTOWN SINCE 2008. AND WHEN I MOVED INTO DOWNTOWN AND STARTED CONDUCTING BUSINESS DOWNTOWN, THERE WERE THERE WAS AN OCCASIONAL HOMELESS PERSON. I WAS THE FIRST CRAZY PERSON TO COME OVER AND HAVE A PRETTY MAJOR GROWING CONCERN ON THIS SIDE OF HIGHWAY FIVE, AND THERE WAS SOME HOMELESSNESS, NOWHERE NEAR THE LEVEL THAT I AM ENGAGED WITH ON A DAILY BASIS. TODAY. I HAVE PERSONALLY REMOVED AT MY COST AND WITH PAYING EMPLOYEES OVER 60YD■T OF TRASH THIS YEAR,I MAYBE I'M A LITTLE JADED, BUT WHEN YOU DRIVE BY AND YOU SEE THE LITTLE FOOD SHELTERS, YOU SEE FOOD FOR SOMEONE. I SEE THE TRASH THAT MY EMPLOYEES WILL PICK UP TOMORROW. WHEN I SEE A LADY PULLING BAGS OF CLOTHES OUT OF THE REAR OF HER BMW CAR AND HANDING THEM OUT, I SEE THE CLOTHES THAT WE WILL PICK UP AND PUT IN THE DUMPSTER TOMORROW.

THE TRASH LOAD THAT THESE PEOPLE MOVE IS UNBELIEVABLE. WITHIN A 48 HOUR PERIOD, I HAD 16 INDIVIDUALS SET UP CAMP ON ONE OF MY PROPERTIES AND WE HAD TO ASK THEM TO LEAVE. WE ALWAYS GIVE THEM TIME TO LEAVE WITH THEIR PERSONAL BELONGINGS. THEY THEY NEVER TAKE IT ALL. WE OFTENTIMES HAVE SHOPPING CART DAY, AND I'D APPRECIATE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO COME HELP US WITH SHOPPING CART DAY. SHOPPING CART DAY IS THE DAY WHERE MY SON AND MY EMPLOYEES TAKE ONE OF MY TRUCKS, AND WE GATHER UP ALL THE SHOPPING CARTS IN THE AREA, AND WE TAKE THEM BACK TO THE STORES THEY CAME FROM. I HAVE PROSTITUTION ENGAGED ON MY PROPERTY ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND YOU TALK ABOUT THE CORE OF THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT COSTS TO HAVE A ROOF OVER YOUR HEAD, BUT I'M GOING TO GUESS THE DRUGS THAT ARE BEING DONE NEAR MY RESTAURANT ON A DAILY BASIS, THAT WE CLEAN THE PARAPHERNALIA UP. IF THEY WERE NOT ADDICTED TO THESE SUBSTANCES, THEY MIGHT

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LET'S QUIT FEEDING THE BIRDS. THANK YOU, MR. HAMILTON. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. VERY GOOD. OUR NEXT ITEM WILL BE. WE'LL START OUR WORK SESSION. FIRST ITEM IS 25-3054. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE.

POTENTIAL UPDATES TO ORDINANCES THAT SUPPORT SAFETY, ACCESSIBILITY AND COMMUNITY SPACES. MISS ARNOLD. JENNIFER. HIT PAUSE. HIT PAUSE. WE NEED TO, AND I APOLOGIZE. WE'RE GOING TO. YOU CAN SIT UNLESS YOU HAVE. SORRY. NEXT ACTUAL ITEM IS TO DISCUSS ITEMS FROM OUR COUNCIL

[DISCUSS AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING to be held on Tuesday, August 19, 2025, at 6:00 p.m. ]

THERE IS ALSO A COST SAVINGS, REVISIONS TO FIREFIGHTER REPLENISHMENT SYSTEMS. THOSE ARE THE FA SYSTEMS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN IN THIS BUILDING AS WELL, AND A RESTRUCTURED FEE SCHEDULE BASED ON PERMANENT COMPLEXITY RATHER THAN EVALUATION. SO THE BUILDINGS AND STANDARD COMMISSIONS UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED THE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE AND FOLLOWING A PUBLIC HEARING, WAS HELD ON JULY 7TH, 2025, AND IF ADOPTED, THE NEW CODE IS SET TO TAKE EFFECT IN OCTOBER 1ST, 2025. AND I HAVE WITH ME FIRE MARSHAL BRIAN ROACH, AND WE ARE HERE TO STAND FOR QUESTIONS. MARSHAL ROACH, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? I THINK CHIEF HANDLED IT JUST WELL. VERY APPROPRIATE ANSWER FOR THE CHIEF. YES. THANK YOU BOTH. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

APPRECIATE THAT. YES, SIR. OKAY. ONE MORE PULL DOWN ON. THAT WAS. COMPANION ITEM ON THE OPIOID.

YEAH, YEAH. 253070 AND 3071. THIS IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO PARTICIPATE IN A PROPOSED OPIOID SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. MR. MAYOR, WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WE DO HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S AGENDA THIS EVENING TO PARTICIPATE OR OPT IN TO TWO SETTLEMENTS THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS REACHED WITH TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS, ONE BEING PURDUE PHARMA. IT'S A BANKRUPTCY CASE THAT ARISES OUT OF LITIGATION INVOLVING THE OPIOID

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OUT OF THE LARGER POTS OF MONEY THAT EACH ONE OF THE MANUFACTURERS AND SUPPLIERS OF THESE OPIOIDS ARE SUBJECT TO PAY, OR HAVE AGREED TO PAY TO THE TO THE PLAINTIFFS IN THE CASE, I'D LIKE TO ADD SOME DIGITS TO THE LEFT SIDE OF THAT DECIMAL, PLEASE. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. I KNOW IN THE PAST WE'VE RECEIVED SOME FUNDING AND THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW TO DISPENSE THAT AND WHERE IT GOES AND WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR ALLOCATING THOSE FUNDS TO DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ADDRESS THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC SPECIFICALLY. SO I JUST WANT US TO BE MINDFUL AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, BECAUSE WE HAD ONE INSTANCE WHERE COUNCIL MADE A DECISION AND THEN ANOTHER WHERE WE SAID, SHOULD THIS REALLY BE GOING THROUGH COMMUNITY GRANTS? SO I JUST WANT US TO BE KIND OF MINDFUL AS THIS IS GOING TO COME AT SOME POINT, HOW WE'RE GOING TO GO ABOUT ALLOCATING THAT FUNDING. MAYOR PRO TEM, WE ARE LIMITED IN THE MANNER IN WHICH WE CAN ALLOCATE THESE FUNDS, BECAUSE THERE IS A TEXAS STATEWIDE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE SIGNED WITH THE TEXAS ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE THAT CONTROLS AND REGULATES FOR WHAT PURPOSES THOSE FUNDS MAY BE DISPENSED AND HOW THEY CAN BE USED. PART OF IT IS BEING ABLE TO HAVE NARCAN AVAILABLE FOR OUR FIRST EMERGENCY RESPONDERS OR FIRST RESPONDERS TO ADDRESS SITUATIONS WHERE THEY COME INTO CONTACT WITH SOMEONE WHO IS SUFFERING FROM OPIOID ADDICTION. BUT THERE ARE SPECIFIC CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH IN ORDER TO EXPEND THOSE FUNDS. SO THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM OUR PREVIOUS SETTLEMENTS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN. THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE HAD WITH THE COVID FUNDS THAT WE HAD RECEIVED FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS. SO THIS IS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PROCESS THAT APPLIES HERE. GOOD TO KNOW.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY

[Consider/Discuss Potential Ordinance Updates to Support Safety, Accessibility, and Community Spaces]

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WHILE TODAY WE SEEM TO BE LASER FOCUSED ON THAT ENFORCEMENT COMPONENT, THAT IS ONLY ONE SMALL PART OF THIS BIGGER, COMPLEX ISSUE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AS A COMMUNITY. SO I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT REAL QUICKLY THAT WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF EXISTING CODES ALREADY ON THE BOOKS, IN ADDITION TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY. SO POLICE LAWS AND THINGS, WE ALSO HAVE WHAT I CALL OUR NUISANCE LAWS. SO THOSE ARE MAINLY FOUND IN CHAPTER 70 AND CHAPTER 78 OF OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES. AND THAT IS A WIDE RANGE OF DIFFERENT LAWS RELATED TO THINGS LIKE NOISE, CURFEWS, PARKING PROHIBITIONS, PANHANDLING AND PEDDLING AND SOLICITATIONS. SO WITHIN THOSE CURRENT CODES, WE DO SEE SOME OPPORTUNITIES. IF THE COUNCIL SO DESIRES WHERE WE CAN ADD SOME NEW REQUIREMENTS OR MANAGEMENT. I WILL SAY A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT MAY BE ABLE TO TARGET SOME BEHAVIORS THAT WE'VE DEFINITELY BEEN HEARING ABOUT IN RECENT MONTHS AND YEARS. AND SO WITH THAT, WE WANT TO WALK THROUGH THOSE UNDER CHAPTER 70, THE POTENTIAL FOR A NO CAMPING ORDINANCE AND THE POTENTIAL FOR A WHAT I CALL SIDEWALK OBSTRUCTION. THAT'S THE SITTING, LYING DOWN THAT WE'VE HEARD PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT. AND THEN UNDER THE PEDDLING AND SOLICITATIONS, CREATING A SECTION FOR AGGRESSIVE PANHANDLING. AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK AT A HIGH LEVEL ABOUT ALL OF THESE TONIGHT. AND AGAIN, WE ARE NOT HERE ASKING FOR ANY ACTION FROM THE COUNCIL TONIGHT. MORE OF A DISCUSSION ITEM, SOME DIRECTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY PURSUE OR NOT. AND IF WE DO PURSUE IT, ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE WITH US SO THAT WHEN IT DOES COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR POTENTIAL ACTION, WE'RE HITTING THE RIGHT MARK. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO JUMP RIGHT INTO THE CAMPING ORDINANCE. AT PRESENT, WE ACTUALLY DO NOT HAVE A CITYWIDE CAMPING ORDINANCE. THERE ARE CAMPING PROHIBITIONS, BUT THOSE ARE LIMITED STRICTLY TO OUR CITY PARKS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ERWIN PARK. SO THIS NO CAMPING ORDINANCE WOULD ACTUALLY BE A CITYWIDE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD PERTAIN TO ANY PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE PROPERTY. SO THAT DOES NOT MEAN A PUBLICLY OWNED PROPERTY, BUT SOMETHING PERHAPS LIKE A VACANT PROPERTY OR EVEN ON OUR STREETS, SIDEWALKS AND RIGHTS OF WAYS WE'RE WHEREBY YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CAMP OVERNIGHT. AND WE DO DEFINE WHAT IS MEANT BY CAMPING IN THIS POTENTIAL CHANGE BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 7 P.M. AND 7 A.M. SO I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT'S ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN, BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP ABOUT WHAT THAT EXACTLY MEANS.

SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, WITHIN OUR PARKS, WITHIN ERWIN PARK, YOU WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO CAMP IN THOSE DESIGNATED AREAS. HOWEVER, YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CAMP ON SIDEWALK OR ON A VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY, OR EVEN IN A PARKING LOT, ON A PLACE LIKE A WALMART OR EVEN A CHURCH. YOU CAN STILL CAMP ON YOUR OWN PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND THIS CAME UP QUITE A BIT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS. WE WANT WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNERS, HOMEOWNERS WHO, ON A NICE SUMMER EVENING, MAY WANT TO HAVE A FAMILY CAMP OUT. AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS STILL PERMITTED. THESE ORDINANCES WOULD APPLY TO ALL CITIZENS, ALL VISITORS, ALL RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT AS AS THESE WERE BEING CONTEMPLATED, WE HAD CARVE OUTS FOR SOME OF THOSE NORMAL ACTIVITIES THAT WE MAY OTHERWISE SEE ON YOUR OWN PRIVATE PROPERTY. HOWEVER, IF YOU OWN A PIECE OF VACANT PROPERTY, IT WOULD BE ILLEGAL PER WHAT'S DRAFTED CURRENTLY TO ALLOW SOMEBODY ELSE TO CAMP ON YOUR PROPERTY. SO ONE OF THE OTHER POTENTIAL CHANGES IS AGGRESSIVE PANHANDLING. NOW AS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT, THE CITY CANNOT PROHIBIT PANHANDLING. WHILE WE DO TRY TO ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO GIVE IN OTHER WAYS AND NOT NECESSARILY OFFERING DOLLARS TO FOLKS SITTING ON THE CORNER, WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT THAT IS A RIGHT, A FIRST AMENDMENT, A RIGHT FROM FOR ANYBODY TO DO.

HOWEVER, THE WAY IN WHICH THEY GO ABOUT THAT IS WHAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY REGULATE. AND THAT'S WHERE THIS AGGRESSIVE PANHANDLING CODE MAY COME INTO PLAY. WHAT THAT MEANS IS YOU CANNOT ENGAGE IN AN ACTIVITY WITH SOMEBODY TO TRY AND GET THEM TO SOLICIT MONEY OR SERVICES OR WHATEVER FROM THEM IN AN AGGRESSIVE FORM. SO THAT MEANS BLOCKING THEM, INTERRUPTING SOMEBODY IF THEY'RE MAYBE IN LINE, WAITING TO GET INTO A BUILDING OR INTO A RESTAURANT AND USING VIOLENT OR THREATENING LANGUAGE OR ACTIVITIES. SO THIS REALLY IS ONE WHERE WE FEEL AS THOUGH IT CAN HELP TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE NEGATIVE, OR MAYBE THE UNCOMFORTABLENESS THAT MAY COME WITH WHEN WE ARE INTERACTING WITH SOMEBODY WHO'S TRYING TO PANHANDLE. AGAIN, NOT AN ILLEGAL ACTIVITY TO PANHANDLE, BUT THE WAY IN WHICH FOLKS GO ABOUT IT

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THIS IS IMPACT RIGHT HERE. AND CITY HALL IS RIGHT HERE. PERFECT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. AND THEN THIS, OF COURSE, IS HIGHWAY FIVE. AND THIS IS THE RAILROAD TRACKS RIGHT THROUGH HERE. SO WITH THAT, THIS IS THE LAST OF THE OF MY PART OF THE PRESENTATION.

WHAT WE WANTED TO DO AGAIN WAS OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION AND DIALOG WITH THE COUNCIL. AS YOU ALL WELL KNOW, OVER RECENT MONTHS AND YEARS, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THINGS HAPPENING IN AND AROUND DOWNTOWN AND REALLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS WELL. WE'VE HAD TWO DIFFERENT TOWN HALLS TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS, AND THAT IS WHAT'S CULMINATED IN THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT. WE WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE APPETITE IS OF THE COUNCIL TO CONTINUE EXPLORING THESE SO THAT WE CAN REFINE THEM SOME MORE AND POTENTIALLY BRING THEM BACK FOR CONSIDERATION AND ACTION. I HAD A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE CAMPING PART, ESPECIALLY REGARDING ERWIN PARK.

YES, SIR. BECAUSE YOU'RE ALLOWING CAMPING. SO IF WE HAVE A HOMELESS POPULATION THAT SETS UP A CAMP OUT THERE, WHAT PREVENTS WHAT WHAT'S OUR WHAT CAN WE DO? WELL, ONLY IN THE DESIGNATED AREAS. AND IF THEY'RE CAMPING IN DESIGNATED AREAS THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS AND MEANS WITH OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT, NOTHING, THEY WOULD BE AS LEGAL AS THEY COULD BE NOW IF THEY WANTED TO TRY AND CAMP IN OTHER LOCATIONS THAT WEREN'T DESIGNATED FOR CAMPING, THIS ORDINANCE WOULD APPLY. OKAY. AND MY SENSE IS THERE'S A RATHER LIMITED NUMBER OF APPROVED CAMPING AREAS AT ERWIN PARK. IS THAT YOUR SENSE TOO? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? THEY HAVE TO BE RESERVED THOUGH. THEY DO HAVE. YES. THAT'S CORRECT. YOU SAID SOMETHING TO ME THAT KIND OF CAUGHT MY EAR AND YOU SAID WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CAMPING AND WALMART AND CARS A FEW YEARS AGO, RIGHT WHEN I GOT ON COUNCIL, I THINK PAUL BROUGHT A LADY UP. AND PAUL, FORGIVE ME IF IT WASN'T YOU, BUT SHE SHE PARKED IN WAS PARKING AT WALMART AND THEN THEY WOULDN'T LET HER PARK THERE ANYMORE AT NIGHT AND SLEEP. AND SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T FEEL SAFE ANYWHERE ELSE. AND THAT MADE SENSE TO ME. AND WE NEVER CAME UP WITH ANY KIND OF GOOD ANSWER. BUT ARE YOU SAYING THAT WITH THIS ORDINANCE THAT ANY PRIVATE PARKING LOT WOULD IT WOULD NOT BE LEGAL FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO SLEEP IN THEIR CARS? BECAUSE I SEE IT AS PUBLIC, BUT ARE WE SUGGESTING THAT IT WOULD BE PRIVATE TO. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO JEREMY WITH OUR LEGAL TEAM. THANK YOU. AND I'M SORRY IF I ASKED THAT QUESTION TOO EARLY. YOU'RE RIGHT. OKAY. MY NAME IS JEREMY PAIGE. I WORK WITH MARK IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS IT'S CURRENTLY DRAFTED. THE PROHIBITION ON OVERNIGHT PARKING WOULD BE LIMITED TO PUBLIC STREETS AND PUBLIC PARKING LOTS. AND SO THIS ORDINANCE WOULD NOT REACH A

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AND SO I ACTUALLY KIND OF WANT TO GO BACK AND CLARIFY ON SOMETHING THAT WAS STATED EARLIER, OUR CURRENT CAMPING ORDINANCE, EVEN THOUGH IT IS BURIED WITHIN OUR PARKS AND RECREATION CHAPTER, PROHIBITS CAMPING ON ANY PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE AREA, WHETHER IT'S IN A PARK OR OTHERWISE, AND WITH ONLY LIMITED EXCEPTIONS FOR IF YOU'RE CAMPING ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY, OR IF YOU HAVE THE PERMISSION OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. OKAY, SO WALK THROUGH ME.

AND I HATE TO KEEP SAYING WALMART BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T ASK TO BE TALKED ABOUT TODAY, BUT WALMART PARKING LOT. SOMEONE'S ASLEEP IN THERE. IS THAT OKAY? SO THAT WOULD BE UP TO WALMART TO ENFORCE THEIR OWN REGULATIONS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE CAN PARK THERE OVERNIGHT. AND SO WE WOULD IF NEED BE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT COULD INTERVENE TO EITHER ISSUE A CRIMINAL TRESPASS WARNING IF THEY WERE TO BE PROHIBITED FROM COMING BACK ONTO THE PROPERTY. BUT AGAIN, IT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REGULATED BY THIS ORDINANCE AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN. OKAY. SO VIRTUALLY ANY PUBLIC OR REGULATED BY THE ZONING OKAY. SO OKAY. YEAH, I GUESS THE RESULT I'M TRYING TO GET TO IS, IS THAT IF A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER IS DESIROUS OF ALLOWING PEOPLE TO SLEEP ON THEIR, THEIR CAR, IN THEIR CARS, ON THEIR PROPERTY, I SURE DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE WAY OF THAT. SO AT LEAST CERTAINLY I'VE SEEN NO REASON TO GET IN THE WAY OF THAT. SO THANK YOU. YEAH. SO THIS ORDINANCE WOULD NOT PROHIBIT THAT. IT WOULD JUST BE PUBLIC PARKING LOTS AND CITY STREETS. CHAIRMAN, CAN I CAN I ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION WHILE YOU'RE UP THERE? SO THE THING SAYS YOU CANNOT ALLOW OTHERS TO CAMP ON A PUBLIC AREA OF YOUR PROPERTY. SO I THINK WHAT THEY'RE GETTING AT IS AND WE MAY NEED TO GO LOOK AT THIS, BECAUSE A PUBLIC PARKING LOT IS A PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE. WE'RE MAKING IT AN OFFENSE TO ALLOW SOMEBODY ELSE TO CAMP.

CORRECT. SO AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY THERE'S A PORTION OF THE ORDINANCE REGARDING OVERNIGHT PARKING. AND IT IS SPECIFIC EXPLICITLY TO PUBLIC STREETS AND PUBLICLY OWNED PARKING LOTS. AND SO OTHERWISE THE ORDINANCE AS IT'S GOING TO BE WRITTEN DOES NOT ALLOW SOMEONE TO ALLOW ANYBODY ELSE TO CAMP ON THEIR PROPERTY OTHER THAN THEMSELVES. SO I'M STILL NOT SURE HOW THAT APPLIES TO THE WALMART. WOULDN'T THEY BE ALLOWING THAT IF SOMEONE. AND SO THAT WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE PROHIBITION. SO THERE'S A SPECIFIC ALLOWANCE FOR THAT. I THANK YOU. I HAVE SO THERE'S A PROPERTY DOWN THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE ON ERWIN AND THERE'S SOMEONE SLEEPING THERE EVERY OTHER WEEK. AND THE PROPERTY OWNER SOMETIMES RUNS THEM OFF, SOMETIMES DOESN'T. IF THEY AREN'T ISSUING THEM A CRIMINAL TRESPASS, ARE WE TICKETING THEM FOR ALLOWING THEM SOMEONE TO CAMP ON THAT PROPERTY? THE HOMEOWNER, IF IT'S AGAIN UNDER THE ORDINANCE WITH SPECIFIC TO OVERNIGHT PARKING, SLEEPING IN A VEHICLE, THAT WOULD NOT BE A CITATION BECAUSE IT WOULD BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. BUT IF THEY'RE NOT IN A VEHICLE, THEN THAT WOULD BE CAMPING AND THAT WOULD BE PROHIBITED. WE WOULDN'T ALLOW THEM TO PARK A VEHICLE ON THE SURFACE. AND THAT'S THE OTHER THING. THERE'S ALSO PROHIBITIONS ELSEWHERE IN THE CODE ABOUT LIVING IN AN RV AND WHERE RVS CAN BE PARKED AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST DEALING WITH THESE TYPE OF REGULATIONS FROM ONE AREA. BUT THERE IS POSSIBLE WAYS TO ENFORCE OTHER TYPES THROUGH EXISTING CODES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ON THE BOOKS. AND SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE SPECIFICS OF THE SITUATION. SO IN THIS SITUATION, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS THE OPTION TO CRIMINALLY TRESPASS THAT PERSON, WHICH IS AN OFFENSE TO THE INDIVIDUAL. IF THEY DON'T, IT BECOMES AN OFFENSE TO THEM. IF THEY ARE ALLOWING SOMEONE TO CAMP IN A PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE AREA OF THEIR PROPERTY, AND THEY DO NOT REQUIRE THAT PERSON TO MOVE WITHIN, I THINK 24 HOURS OF BEING NOTIFIED OF THAT. SO I GUESS ON A PUBLIC STREET AND A PUBLIC PARKING LOT, THIS IS AN OFFENSE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL. BUT THIS ORDINANCE, THE WAY WE'RE EXPANDING IT IS, HAS SEEMS TO HAVE MORE TEETH TO PROPERTY OWNERS THAN TO INDIVIDUALS. SO PART OF THE AMENDMENT TO THIS IN THIS ORDINANCE IS TO ADD AN OFFENSE FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO ALLOW THAT ALLOW PEOPLE TO CAMP ON THEIR PROPERTY IN VIOLATION OF THIS CODE. AND SO IN ADDITION TO GOING AFTER THOSE WHO ARE ILLEGALLY CAMPING, WE CAN ALSO ISSUE CITATIONS TO THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR KNOWINGLY ALLOW SOMEBODY TO CAMP ON THEIR PROPERTY IN VIOLATION OF THIS ORDINANCE. BUT I GUESS, AGAIN, THAT INDIVIDUAL WHO'S ON THAT PROPERTY IS ALREADY COMMITTING A

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I HAVE THE OPINIONS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YES, IT'S AN OFFENSE TO SIT OR LIE DOWN ON A STREET, SIDEWALK OR PEDESTRIAN RIGHT OF WAY OR OR ANY OBJECT OR STRUCTURE PLACED THEREIN. IF LET'S SEE HERE, I'LL JUST READ IT TO YOU. A PERSON COMMITS AN OFFENSE IF, AFTER BEING NOTIFIED BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, THAT HE THAT THE CONDUCT VIOLATES THIS ARTICLE AND THE PERSON IS ASLEEP OUTDOORS, AND OR THE PERSON SITS OR LIES DOWN ON A STREET, SIDEWALK, OR PEDESTRIAN RIGHT OF WAY, OR ANY OBJECT OR STRUCTURE PLACED THEREIN. THERE IS EXCEPTIONS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY FOR CHAIRS BENCHES SUPPLIED BY THE CITY OR ABUTTING PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER.

AND SO SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ADDRESS, AND SOMETHING THAT WE HAD NOT TALKED ABOUT IS IF THERE ARE WALLS AND OTHER THINGS THAT THE CITY HAS SPECIFICALLY CONSTRUCTED TO ALLOW FOR PEOPLE TO SIT ON IT, THEN THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD EITHER INCLUDE OR EXPLICITLY NOT INCLUDE. IF WE'RE NOT WANTING PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SIT OR LIE DOWN ON THAT AREA, BUT THAT'S CURRENTLY NOT ADDRESSED. IT SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY BIG THING WHEN THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE USING OUR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY IN THIS WAY ARE SITTING ON A WALL THAT YOU COULD ARGUE WAS DESIGNED TO SIT ON. YEAH, AROUND THE LIBRARY. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DESIGN PLANS ARE FOR THE LIBRARY, BUT I ASSUME THAT WALL IS GOING TO BE THERE GOING FORWARD. AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THAT, IS THAT AN OFFENSE OR NOT? AND WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. I THINK THE WAY THAT IT'S WRITTEN NOW. AND I'LL ANSWER THE QUESTION AND THEN I'LL, I WANT TO KIND OF

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I THINK I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR THAT IF THOSE WALLS WERE INTENDED TO BE USED FOR SEATING, THEN WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S EXPLICITLY PERMITTED HERE AND CLARIFIED. NOW, MY LARGER COMMENT BACK IS YOU MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, LIKE THOSE THAT WE AREN'T FULLY ABLE TO ANSWER.

THE DRAFTS THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU ARE NOT INTENDED TO BE FULL PROOF DRAFTS. THEY WERE INTENDED TO GIVE A LEVEL OF DETAIL TO ENGAGE THIS EXACT KIND OF DISCUSSION AND DEBATE. WE'VE REALLY TRIED HARD TO KNOCK THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AROUND AS OUR GROUP, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT MOVING PARTS WITH THIS THAT WE MISS. SO THIS IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THOSE ITEMS WHERE WE CAN TAKE BACK AND MAKE SURE IT'S INJECTED HERE THE WAY THAT IT NEEDS TO BE. SO I'VE GOT TWO MORE QUESTIONS. ONE, I'LL KIND OF TAKE THOSE TWO AND ELEVATE IT TO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A MACRO LOOK ON THIS. WHEN CHIEF ELLENBERG WAS TALKING AT THE PUBLIC MEETING, HE TALKED ABOUT HOW A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE ABOUT GIVING OFFICERS THE ABILITY TO ENGAGE. RIGHT. AND THEN POTENTIALLY SOLVING WHATEVER ISSUE MAY EXIST IN SOME OTHER WAY. I COUPLE THAT WITH A LOT OF THE COMPLAINTS AND BEHAVIORS THAT I'VE TALKED TO KIM ABOUT A LOT, AND I KNOW MATT MENTIONED A LOT IN HERE, HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND SO I GUESS WE KEEP AND YOU MENTIONED THIS IN YOUR INTRODUCTION, WE KEEP HONING IN ON ENFORCEMENT. BUT I FEEL LIKE WE JUST WE'RE MISSING THE MARK ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE ENFORCED. IN SOME WAYS THAT ARE VERY SUBJECTIVE AND VERY VAGUE, AND WE DON'T REALLY KNOW IF THEY WILL CHANGE ANY OF THE OUTCOMES OR NOT. IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THE RESULT OF THAT ENFORCEMENT IS WHEN IT BEGINS. AND I, I UNDERSTAND THAT TACTIC, BUT IT JUST IT, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE GOT BEHAVIORS OUT HERE THAT ARE ALREADY AGAINST THE LAW THAT WE'RE JUST STRUGGLING TO, TO, TO FIGURE OUT. AND WE'VE GOT RESOURCES THAT ARE NEEDED POSSIBLY TO PULL SOME OF THIS OFF OF OUR STREETS. AND WE ARE AVOIDING BOTH OF THOSE AND KIND OF GOING DOWN THIS WEIRD LITTLE MIDDLE LANE OF TRYING TO DEFINE WHERE SOMEBODY CAN SIT. AND I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT I LIKE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION IN ANOTHER YEAR, JUST LIKE WE HAD IT A YEAR AGO WHEN WE ADDED MORE POLICE OFFICERS INTO INTO DOWNTOWN. AND I DON'T I GUESS I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE WE'RE SOLVING ANY I KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE ANYTHING, BUT I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT WE'RE COMING CLOSE TO IT WITH THESE. WELL, AND I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT WE'RE IGNORING THE OTHER THE OTHER PIECES OF THIS. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO ALL WORK TOGETHER TO TRY AND MOVE THE NEEDLE. THIS IS ONLY ONE PIECE OF THAT. AND WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SERVICES AND WHATNOT. AND HOW ARE WE BOLSTERING THOSE ACTIVITIES AS A CITY. THAT'S WHAT MARGARET'S TEAM AND THE HOMELESS COALITION REALLY FOCUS THEIR EFFORTS ON. I THINK CHIEF CAN PROBABLY SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE CHALLENGES THAT THEY SOMETIMES HAVE WITH ENFORCING SOME OF THE OTHER BEHAVIORS THAT ARE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, DRUG PROSTITUTION, THE LITTERING, THOSE A LOT OF TIMES YOU HAVE TO THEY HAVE TO BE THERE AND SEE THEM IN THE ACT OR ENGAGED. OTHERWISE IT IS VERY MUCH A HE SAID, SHE SAID. AND IT BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM. AND I'M KIND OF SPEAKING A LITTLE BIT OUT OF TURN ON THAT. BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WHAT THESE DO IS GIVE POLICE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE. AND WHEN AN AREA THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE OTHERWISE BEEN ABLE TO. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ARE ALREADY BEING TALKED ABOUT. SOME OF THEM HAVE TO BE BE ON VIEW, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE TRYING TO RE-IMPLEMENT THE CLASS C AFFIDAVIT. MEANING THAT IF MR. HAMILTON SEES THIS HAPPEN. BUT WE GET THERE AND IT'S NOT HAPPENING ANYMORE, HE CAN FILL OUT A CLASS C AFFIDAVIT AND BE INVITED TO GO TO MUNICIPAL COURT TO TESTIFY. ANOTHER REAL CHALLENGE, TO BE HONEST, IS THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE COMPLAINED TO ABOUT THESE OFFENSES. PRIOR TO IT EVER MAKING IT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR THE POLICE DO IN FACT SHOW UP, GAIN VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE, AND FIX THE ISSUE. BUT THAT DIDN'T RISE TO THE ENFORCEMENT LEVEL THAT THE COMPLAINANT DESIRED. SO I WOULD JUST ADD, WHILE I'M TALKING ON THESE ORDINANCES, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I STILL STAND BY WHAT I SAID AT THE TOWN HALL MEETING. IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY AND A LEGAL FOOTING TO CONTACT AND ENGAGE THIS

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WE DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH THE SQUEEZE ANYMORE. LET'S, YOU KNOW, REPEAL OR ROLL BACK THESE ORDINANCES. SO ABSOLUTELY, WE AGREE THAT THESE ARE THREE VERY UNIQUE WAYS OF ADDRESSING SOME ISSUES. WE'VE BORROWED THESE FROM SOME OF OUR OTHER CITIES AROUND THE STATE. BUT A REEVALUATION ON THEIR EFFECTIVENESS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT THAT WE AGREE SHOULD BE ROLLED INTO THIS. SO, CHIEF, I'LL MENTION A STORY OF A GENTLEMAN THAT HAS LIVED HERE IN MCKINNEY, GRADUATED FROM MCKINNEY HIGH. I THINK YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT HIM BEFORE. HE WAS A HOMELESS INDIVIDUAL, UNHOUSED INDIVIDUAL HERE FOR AT LEAST 15 YEARS THAT I KNOW OF AND DID ALL OF THE OFFENSES THAT WERE ALREADY ON THE BOOKS. DID SOME OF THESE THAT WERE ON THESE BOOKS, AND IS THE TYPES THAT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HE'S JUST NEVER GOING TO LIVE WITH A ROOF OVER HIS HEAD. I THINK HE WAS PROVIDED WITH A ROOF SEVERAL TIMES AND DIDN'T MAKE IT, BUT THAT THE WAY IN WHICH. WE ENGAGED ALL, WE ALWAYS GOT THE COMPLIANCE. HE HE HE HAD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH SEVERAL POLICE OFFICERS, BUT EVENTUALLY. FROM LIVING ON THE STREET FROM POTENTIALLY PAST DRUG USE, FROM ALL THOSE THINGS, HE DEVELOPED SOME SORT OF SCHIZOPHRENIA OR DELUSIONAL DISORDER OR SOMETHING AND COMMITTED SOME AGGRAVATED ASSAULT. AND SO FOR 15 YEARS HE DID EXACTLY WHAT WE WANTED HIM TO DO WITH COMPLIANCE. AND THEN AT ONE POINT HE DOESN'T. AND THEN AND I GUESS IN TERMS OF EXPECTED OUTCOMES, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S JUST WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE. WE'RE GOING TO GET THE COMPLIANCE. WE'RE GOING TO MAYBE ROOT OUT SOME OF IT. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE STILL GOING TO GET THE AGGRAVATED ASSAULT. WE EITHER, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONS IN WHICH THESE PEOPLE ARE FORCED TO LIVE AND THAT'S THAT'S TO SAY I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT THESE SOLVE ANYTHING. I DON'T KNOW THAT I KNOW RESOURCES WEREN'T SOLVING THE ISSUE FOR HIM. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE THAT COMPLIANCE, THAT, THAT VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE IS WHAT MOST OF THESE PEOPLE ARE DOING EVERY DAY. AND IT'S THE AGGRAVATED ASSAULT THAT HE'LL BE REMEMBERED FOR. AND THAT'S NOT A I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS A QUESTION. IT WAS JUST A COMMENT TO YOU. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE WE TREATED HIM WELL AS A. INDIVIDUAL GOING THROUGH A HARD TIME FOR 15 YEARS IN THE CITY. BUT, YOU KNOW, HE HE ENDS UP WITH AN AGGRAVATED ASSAULT CHARGE AS A HOMELESS PERSON. I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER. I THINK I KNOW WHO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I WILL JUST REITERATE THAT NOT HAVING AN ADDRESS OR BEING HOMELESS IS NOT A CRIMINAL ACT.

AND I WILL. WE JUST HAD AN EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP TEAM MEETING ABOUT THIS EXACT THING AND BROUGHT IN SOME EXPERTS. THERE ARE A LOT OF CHALLENGES IN ENFORCING CLASS C MISDEMEANORS ON PEOPLE WHO. ARE OBVIOUSLY INDIGENT. SHERIFF JIM SKINNER DOES NOT WANT TO HAVE HIS JAIL FILLED UP WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE SITTING IN A PLACE THAT'S NOT MEANT TO BE SAT IN, AND HE DOES NOT. SO THERE'S THAT. WE DON'T OPERATE OUR OWN MUNICIPAL JAIL, AND THEN WE CAN WE CAN WRITE CITATIONS ALL DAY LONG. BUT IT'S HARD TO PUNISH SOMEONE WITH A FINE THAT CAN VERY EASILY PROVE THAT THEY'RE INDIGENT. SO I THINK OUR MPOS AND OUR CSU UNIT DO A GREAT JOB AT GAINING COMPLIANCE. THERE WAS AN INCIDENT THIS WEEKEND THAT I'M PRETTY. I'M PRETTY AMAZED THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO GET SOMEONE TO COMPLY WITH THE WISHES OF THE MERCHANTS, BUT THEY DID. AND THEN AGAIN, I'LL STAND BY MY STATEMENT THAT OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES TEAM, WHO WORKS PRETTY CLOSELY WITH MARGARET'S TEAM WHEN WE IDENTIFY SOMEBODY WHO WANTS HELP OR WANTS TO NOT LIVE THAT WAY ANYMORE, WHETHER THAT'S NEEDING TO GET TO A FAMILY MEMBER, TWO STATES OVER OR WHETHER THAT'S NEEDING HELP WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE OR JUST THEY JUST NEED HELP AND THEY'RE

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THERE ARE CHALLENGES AND THERE ARE THINGS WE COULD DO. YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVE THAT THEY'RE THE ONES WHO REMOVE THAT SHOPPING CART. AND IT WASN'T JUST LOCATED ABANDONED SOMEWHERE. THE TRUTH OF IT IS, IS SOME OF THE CITIES WHO HAVE COLLECTED THOSE SHOPPING CARTS, WHICH THE CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IS BEING ABLE TO TRANSPORT THE SHOPPING CART, BEING ABLE TO CATEGORIZE, INVENTORY AND STORE ALL OF THE SHOPPING CARTS CONTENTS AS PERSONAL PROPERTY, EVEN THOUGH THERE MAY BE SOME BIOHAZARD CONCERNS THERE. THE CITIES IN AROUND AUSTIN THAT I'VE TALKED TO WHO HAVE GATHERED THESE SHOPPING CARTS WHEN THEY CALL TARGET AND SAY THAT WE HAVE 60 SHOPPING CARTS READY FOR YOU TO PICK UP, SOMETIMES IT'S 9120 DAYS. I MEAN, IT'S NOT. THE GROCERY STORES ARE KIND OF BUILDING IN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE SOME SHOPPING CARTS DURING THEIR INVENTORY. I'M VERY OPEN TO DISCUSSING HOW Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT. JUST KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES WE'LL NEED TO WORK THROUGH. THANKS, CHIEF. JENNIFER, I'LL SAY, BECAUSE YOU ASKED WITH RESPECT TO TODAY, JUST HIGHLIGHTS FOR ME. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO PARK AND SLEEP THERE IF THEY WANT TO. THAT'S A DESIRE I HAVE. MAKE SURE THAT THAT WORDING IS IN THERE. I DON'T WANT TO RESTRICT PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS FROM THAT. WE MAY HAVE TO EVENTUALLY LOOK AT PERMITTING THING ON THAT, AND I GET THAT. BUT I'M HAPPY TO KEEP GRINDING ON THIS. AND WHAT JUSTIN WAS SAYING ABOUT THE PONY WALLS AND EVERYTHING DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THAT? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THOSE ARE TO SIT ON. AND SO I, YOU KNOW, STEPS ON THE MPC AND THOSE PONY WALLS COME TO MIND FOR ME. BUT TO ME, THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN JUST SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SIDEWALK. AGREED. AND I DON'T I DO NOT WANT TO BELABOR THAT POINT. I WILL SAY THAT FOR IMPACT THERE IS A BUILDING USE POLICY THAT THEY OVERSEE, AND THAT SPEAKS TO PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO SIT ON THE STEPS. AND AT PRESENT, UNLESS SOMEBODY COME IN AND FACT CHECKED ME, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT IS BY ALL TECHNICAL ACCOUNTS, PERMITTED UNDER THEIR BUILDING USE POLICY. THEY CITED AS A MATTER OF INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR FOLKS GETTING IN AND OUT OF THE BUILDING. BUT I'LL USE THE TERM INVITING. THOSE STEPS ARE INVITING TO SIT ON THOSE WALLS ARE INVITING TO SIT ON. DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD LEGALLY CODIFY THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST WHAT IT SEEMS TO ME. ABSOLUTELY. GREAT POINT, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE WE TAKE THAT BACK. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MR. MR. HAUSER, IS THERE SOME CONSENSUS ON THE

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ANYONE ELSE JENNIFER. THANK YOU CHIEF. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS THIS IS ONLY A DRAFT. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE CHANGES IN AS A GROUP WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE CHANGES. BUT LET'S ALL KEEP IN MIND THE REASON WE'RE WE'RE EVEN TALKING ABOUT ORDINANCES. WE'VE GOT ANOTHER CRISIS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT HAS NOT GONE AWAY IN THE LAST 45 MINUTES. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS. SO LET'S. IS YOUR MICROPHONE STILL ON? YES, SIR. THERE'S ANOTHER CRISIS THAT THAT IS AMONGST ALL OF US. SO LET'S DON'T FORGET REALLY THE REAL REASON WE'RE PUTTING IN THE TIME ON THIS. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE ON. OKAY. WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT, NEXT ITEM 253055 UPDATE ON MCKINNEY

[Update on McKinney National Airport Eastside Development]

YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS HERE? THIS IS THE SITE PLAN FOR THE TERMINAL AS IT'S BEING CONSTRUCTED TODAY. YOU CAN SEE THE COMPONENTS, THE FM 546 INTERSECTION ROUNDABOUT AND THE TAXIWAY CHARLIE PROJECTS ARE NOT PART OF THE CURRENT PROJECT. THOSE WILL BE ADDED VERY SHORTLY. AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME PHOTOGRAPHS WHERE WE STAND TODAY. SO HERE IS A AERIAL FROM JUST LAST WEEK I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST WEDNESDAY. YOU CAN SEE THE COMPONENTS OF THE PROJECT. THE STORMWATER DETENTION POND HAS BEEN COMPLETED. WITH THE MASS GRADING. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE PARKING LOT IS LAYING OUT. ONE THING THAT'S VERY INTERESTING IS YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE AISLES OF THE PARKING LOT. THEY'RE BEING FORMED. THOSE ARE THE ISLANDS. IN BETWEEN THOSE ISLANDS ARE ACTUALLY SIX ROWS OF PARKING. I MEAN, THE SCALE OF THAT SITE IS VERY LARGE. YOU CAN SEE THE PAD FOR THE TERMINAL BUILDING ITSELF, THE AIRCRAFT APRON, AND THEN THE GRASSY AREA WHERE THE FUTURE TAXIWAY CHARLIE WILL BE LOCATED. LOOKING AT THE OTHER SIDE, THIS IS FROM THE NORTHWEST LOOKING OVER THE APRON. THIS WOULD BE THE AIRCRAFT PARKING LOCATION. YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING PAD FOR THE TERMINAL ITSELF, AND YOU CAN START TO SEE THE PATTERN OF THE DRIVES COMING INTO AND AROUND THE PARKING LOT. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE ROUNDABOUT WILL BE AS IT ADDRESSES THERE ON 546, JUST KIND OF SWINGING AROUND THE SITE, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE WATER LINES ARE BEING INSTALLED. THE WATER LINE IS, I BELIEVE, COMPLETE. TODAY. THEY'RE STARTING WORK ON THE STORMWATER SYSTEM AND THE SEWER SYSTEM, WHICH WILL THE SEWER LINE ACTUALLY WILL RUN ALONG TAXIWAY CHARLIE TO THE NORTH AND OPEN UP ADDITIONAL SITES. BUT THE WATER, OF COURSE, COMES OFF OF 546 AND LOOPS AROUND OUR PARKING AREA. LOOKING IN A LITTLE CLOSER, THIS IS THE BUILDING PAD FOR THE TERMINAL. WE HAD TO BRING IN TEN FEET OF SELECT FILL. APPARENTLY THE SOILS OUT OF THE AIRPORT ARE ABOUT AS BAD AS THEY COULD BE IN TERMS OF CLAY MATERIALS AND EXPANSIVE SOILS. SO WE HAD TO, UNDER THE FOUNDATION, COME IN WITH A LOT OF SELECT FILL, WHICH IS TIME CONSUMING. BUT THAT PROCESS, I BELIEVE, IS WRAPPING UP THIS WEEK IF IT'S NOT ALREADY COMPLETE, KIND OF LOOKING OVER THE DETENTION BASIN, THE SCALE OF THIS IS VERY, VERY LARGE.

WITH ALL THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE WE'RE PUTTING ON SITE. WE HAVE TO CAPTURE THAT RAINWATER DURING STORM EVENTS AND THEN RELEASE IT SLOWLY INTO THE CREEK. SO WE DON'T LEAD TO MORE EROSION. HERE YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE WATER LINE IS GOING IN THE TRENCH. AND THEN A COUPLE OF THE LATEST RENDERINGS. SO THE COLOR SCHEME IS KIND OF SELECTED, BUT THE ACTUAL GRAPHICS ON THE WALLS ARE TO BE DETERMINED. BUT WE PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE. THIS WOULD BE THE TICKETING AREA AND THE ENTRANCE HERE TO THE LEFT TO GO TO ALL GATES THROUGH TSA SECURITY. THINGS LIKE THE DROP

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SO IN SPITE OF PRESS THAT'S COME OUT, WE STILL HAVE A NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT WITH THE AIRLINES THAT WE'RE SPEAKING TO. WE ARE WORKING ON WITH OUR CONSULTANT TEAM, A LONG TERM AIR SERVICE STRATEGY AND SUPPORTING BUDGET. SO WHAT THIS MEANS IS WE'RE GOING THROUGH A PROCESS OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE WANT THE AIRPORT TO BE, HOW WE MARKET THAT AIRPORT. DO WE JUST WANT TO BE A BUDGET AIRPORT? DO WE WANT TO BE A BUSINESS LEISURE. WHAT IS OUR STRATEGY TO NOT ONLY BUILD AN AIRPORT, BUT TO BUILD A SUCCESSFUL AIRPORT THAT WILL HAVE LONG TERM BENEFITS? A BIG THING THAT JUST HAPPENED ON THE 11TH. WE HAD OUR FIRST DAY OF INSPECTION BY THE FAA. THEY BROUGHT FOUR PEOPLE AND THEY SPENT TEN HOURS INSPECTING OUR AIRFIELD FOR ALL OF THE CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS FOR PART 139, WHICH IS THE CERTIFICATION YOU NEED BEFORE YOU CAN RUN COMMERCIAL PASSENGER SERVICE. THE RESULTS. PRELIMINARY RESULTS. THERE'S YOU KNOW, THEY GIVE YOU KIND OF A PUNCH LIST OF THINGS TO WORK ON. THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE GIVEN US SO FAR IN OUR DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN RELATIVELY MINOR, AND THINGS THAT WE CAN ADDRESS VERY QUICKLY. WE'RE ALSO, I BELIEVE THEY'VE COME OUT A FEW DAYS AFTER THE 11TH, AND THEY DO A NIGHT INSPECTION SO THAT THEY CAN LOOK AT ALL OF OUR LIGHTING SYSTEMS, ALL OF OUR DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE, EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO RUN A SAFE OPERATION. APPLICATIONS ARE STILL GOING IN FOR FEDERAL GRANT APPLICATIONS. ONE OF THEM IS THE AIRPORT TERMINAL PROGRAM GRANT PROGRAM.

THAT IS COMPETITIVE. BUT ONE THING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE OF HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE IS THIS SMALL COMMUNITY AIR SERVICE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. THEY CALL THAT THE SCASD GRANT PROGRAM. THAT IS A PROGRAM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS. THEY PUT X NUMBER OF DOLLARS ANNUALLY INTO A POT THAT IS COMPETED ON BY SMALL AIRPORTS. AND WHAT THIS ALLOWS US TO DO IS TO HOPEFULLY ACQUIRE FEDERAL FUNDING THAT WILL HELP WITH THE MARKETING OF NEW ROUTES AND NEW SERVICES AT THE AIRPORT. SO AS WE KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, IF WE WROTE, IF WE START A FLIGHT FROM HERE TO WHEREVER CHICAGO, WE COULD HELP TO MARKET THAT WITH FEDERAL DOLLARS. SO IT'S A PROGRAM THAT WE'RE ALSO COMPETING FOR. AS FOR THE TIFIA LOAN THAT WE HAVE SUBMITTED AND ARE WORKING THROUGH, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE LOAN THAT WOULD REPLACE THE SALES TAX REVENUE BONDS THAT WERE ISSUED AND WOULD BE FUNDED ALSO BY CDC, BUT AT A LOWER INTEREST RATE. WE'VE GOT WE'VE WE'VE APPROACHED OR WE'VE ACTUALLY PASSED THE FIRST PHASE, WHICH IS THE PROJECT REVIEW.

THEY ARE ON BOARD WITH THE PROJECT. WE'RE NOW IN THE CREDIT REVIEW PROCESS AND ARE ON SCHEDULE TO CLOSE THAT LOAN IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR. ALSO WORKING ON THE FY 26 BUDGET. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS AT THE BUDGET RETREAT. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE FOURTH QUARTER OF FY 26 STARTING TO HIRE OUR AIRPORT STAFF. THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR THE OPERATIONS. THAT WAY WE CAN GET THEM IN, TRAINED UP AND CERTIFIED AS NECESSARY BEFORE WE OPEN THE AIRPORT AT THE END OF CALENDAR YEAR 26. AND I THINK THIS MIGHT BE MY LAST SLIDE CURRENTLY. ALSO, AS WE LIKE I SAID, THE ROUNDABOUT ACCESS OFF OF 546 AND TAXIWAY CHARLIE ARE

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YOU'RE LOOKING WE HAVE OUR SITE PERMIT THAT WAS ISSUED IN JUNE. WE STARTED CONSTRUCTION IN EARNEST THE FIRST PART OF JULY. WE ARE NOW ACQUIRING THE BUILDING PERMIT. SO THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT ALLOWS US TO DO THE SITE WORK. BUILDING PERMIT WILL ALLOW US TO GO VERTICAL ADVERTISING, LIKE I SAID, FOR BIDS FOR THE TAXIWAY AND ROUNDABOUT. IN SEPTEMBER, THE BUILDING WILL ACTUALLY GO VERTICAL. YOU'LL SEE THE STRUCTURE GOING UP IN DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL, I MEAN, THE TAXIWAY AND ROUNDABOUT BEGINNING CONSTRUCTION, FIRST PART OF NEXT YEAR, STILL ON TRACK TO BEGIN COMMERCIAL SERVICE OPERATIONS IN NOVEMBER OF 2026. SO VERY QUICK UPDATE. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. AND WE WILL BE BACK PROBABLY EVERY QUARTER OR EVERY 3 OR 4 MONTHS WITH AN UPDATE. SO YOU KNOW WHERE WE STAND AND IF THERE'S A NEED FOR ANYTHING BEYOND THAT, PLEASE LET US KNOW AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO BRING THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH, A QUICK QUESTION. IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE FEDERAL BUDGET THAT MIGHT AFFECT ANY OF THE AIRPORT FUNDING THAT WE'RE RECEIVING? SO CURRENTLY THE PROJECT, AS YOU SEE IT, THE TERMINAL PROJECT, THE ROUNDABOUT, TAXIWAY CHARLIE ARE FULLY FUNDED. NONE OF THAT IS USING FEDERAL GRANT DOLLARS. SO WE HAVE STATE GRANT DOLLARS. WE HAVE OUR LOCAL DOLLARS IN TERMS OF THINGS HAPPENING AT THE FEDERAL BUDGET LEVEL THAT MIGHT IMPACT US THERE. THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR THEM TO LIMIT THE DOLLARS BEING PUT INTO THOSE. AS OF TODAY, THEY HAVE NOT DONE SO. YOU KNOW, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF OUR OTHER PROJECTS WHERE THEY'VE KIND OF CLAWED BACK SOME GRANT FUNDS. NUMBER ONE, OUR PROJECT DOESN'T HAVE ANY GRANT FUNDS THAT THE PROJECT OR GRANT THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT'S USED FOR NEW ROUTE MARKETING, THAT IS A FAIRLY SMALL BUCKET, USUALLY AROUND $12 MILLION FOR SMALL AIRPORTS TO COMPETE OVER THIS YEAR. THEY ACTUALLY INCREASED THAT UNDER THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION TO $15 MILLION. SO A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY, BUT STILL FAIRLY LIMITED IN TERMS OF THE SCALE OF FEDERAL BUDGET, OF COURSE, BUT WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT. BUT AS OF TODAY, THE AIRPORT TERMINAL PROJECT IS STILL FULLY FUNDED. BUT IT IS THE LAST YEAR OF THAT THAT WAS A FIVE YEAR PROGRAM UNDER THE USED TO BE CALLED THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW. NOW THEY CALL IT THE IIJA. I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHAT THAT STANDS FOR, BUT THAT FUNDING IS STILL THERE.

BUT IT IS THE LAST YEAR OF THAT AVAILABILITY. THE AP, WHICH IS THE ANNUAL AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM GRANT PROGRAM THAT IS FULLY FUNDED TO DATE. AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO GET NOT ONLY COMPETING FOR CURRENT DOLLARS THROUGH THE DISCRETIONARY PROCESS. WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE FAA TO TRY TO GET ON THEIR FIVE YEAR CIP PLAN FOR FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS. SO IF WE WANT TO, AFTER THIS PROJECT IS UP AND RUNNING, IF WE WANTED TO EXTEND TAXIWAY CHARLIE FURTHER TO THE NORTH, THAT WOULD COMPETE VERY WELL. IF WE WANTED TO. ADD SAFETY. PROCEDURES OR EQUIPMENT, OR IF WE WANTED TO BUILD A STANDALONE ARFF STATION. THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WOULD COMPETE VERY WELL FOR THOSE DOLLARS. SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE NOT CUT THOSE PROGRAMS. BUT THERE IS ALWAYS THAT POTENTIAL. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S A LONG WINDED QUESTION TO OUR ANSWER TO THE VERY SHORT QUESTION. SORRY. ANYONE ELSE. AND THANKS FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. IT WAS GREAT. AS FAR AS THE MANAGEMENT OF THE AIRPORT THOUGH, OR HAVE WE CONSIDERED OR EVEN LOOKED AT THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY FOR THE COMMERCIAL SIDE? SO WE'RE WE'RE

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OR THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR US TO BRING IN SOMEONE TO DO PARKING AND TO BRING IN SOMEONE TO DO CONCESSIONAIRES. SO WE'RE WEIGHING THAT RIGHT NOW. AND AS WE BRING, WE'LL BRING THAT FORWARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR A DECISION ON WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD BE. DO WE BRING IN ONE MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT CAN STREAMLINE THAT, BUT ALSO HAVE TO HAVE THEIR OWN OVERHEAD AND THEIR OWN PROFIT? OR DO WE BRING IN INDIVIDUAL VENDORS? SO MORE TO COME ON THAT THOSE WILL ALL BE POLICY DECISIONS THAT THE COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO GIVE US DIRECTION ON. OKAY. THANK YOU.

[Discuss City Council Preferencing for 2025 Boards & Commissions Appointments]

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK BRIEFLY TODAY AT YOUR NOMINATION. SO FAR, NO ACTION IS REQUIRED. OF COURSE, TODAY THIS IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY THAT THE POLICY FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ALLOWS FOR YOU ALL TO KIND OF SEE WHERE YOU ARE, IF THERE'S ANY CONSENSUS, AND MOVING FORWARD TO KIND OF STREAMLINE THE APPOINTMENTS PROCESS, WHICH WILL TAKE PLACE NEXT WEEK. WHAT WE'VE DONE IS COMPILED YOUR NOMINATIONS. YOU HAVEN'T SEEN EACH OTHER'S INFORMATION UNTIL TODAY WITH THE REPORT THAT WAS PROVIDED. THIS RECOMMENDATION LISTING IS NOT SCIENTIFIC. IT'S BASICALLY JUST TAKING A COUNT, THE NUMBER OF NOMINATIONS THAT VARIOUS INDIVIDUALS HAVE RECEIVED AND PLACING THEM. THEIR PRIORITY IS GIVEN TO INCUMBENT MEMBERS IN TERMS OF THEIR ABILITY TO MOVE FORWARD. IF YOU DID NOT INDICATE A REPLACEMENT FOR ANY LISTED MEMBER, THEY RECEIVE CREDIT FOR THAT. WE ALSO MADE AN ALTERNATE NOMINATION, THE SAME AS A REGULAR MEMBER NOMINATION FOR PLACEMENT, AND TO LOOK AT THINGS LIKE TERM TERM LIMITS. SO AS WE MOVE THROUGH THESE SLIDES, FEEL FREE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS. BUT THIS IS REALLY JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHERE YOU KIND OF STAND. THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AGAIN, ARE NOT SET IN STONE. YOU'RE NOT COMMITTED OR BOUND TO THEM IN ANY WAY. THIS IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO AGAIN ASSESS WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT. SO LOOK AT ANIMAL SERVICES FACILITIES. YOU CAN SEE AND NOTE SOME CHANGES TO THIS MEMBERSHIP HAVE CHANGED SINCE OUR LAST DISCUSSION. WE'VE HAD FOLKS WHO HAVE WITHDRAWN FROM THE PROCESS OR HAVE HAD OTHER PRIORITIES, AND THEY NEED TO STEP AWAY. SO THAT WILL BE REFLECTED ON THIS REPORT, WHICH IS A LITTLE NOTE WITH THIS PARTICULAR ONE. YOU CAN SEE ON THE RECOMMENDATION LISTING, THOSE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS WHO RECEIVED THE MOST NOMINATIONS. IF ANYONE RECEIVED AT LEAST FOUR, THEY WERE PLACED ON THE RECOMMENDATION LIST WHERE IT MAKES SENSE AND IS APPROPRIATE TO LIST A REPLACEMENT. AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A REVIEW. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT.

THIS IS THE FORMAT FOR EACH ONE OF THESE BOARDS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND THERE ARE ABOUT 19 BOARDS TO LOOK AT TODAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE. OKAY. WITH BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE ON THE VERY LEFT HAND COLUMN THE CURRENT MEMBERS LIST THE CURRENT ROSTER. IT ALSO HAS NOTES ON WHETHER THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE MET THEIR TERM LIMITS BY POLICY. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE INDICATED ON THE REPORT. THE COUNCIL HAS HAD OCCASION WHEN IT MAKES SENSE FOR YOU TO APPOINT PEOPLE BEYOND THEIR TERM LIMITS. AND OF COURSE, THIS PARTICULAR PRESENTATION DOESN'T RECOMMEND THAT. BUT YOU DO HAVE THAT DISCRETION. SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE MOVE FORWARD. BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION THERE ARE SEVERAL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT HAVE SPECIFIC PROFESSIONAL REQUIREMENTS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. THE BUILDING STANDARDS IS ONE. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THOSE NOTES THERE, AND YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED WITH A SEPARATE LISTING THAT SHOWS ALL OF THOSE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WITH THOSE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS, OR WHERE THE CITY CODE ASKS YOU TO BASICALLY ENDEAVOR TO MEET SOME OF THOSE.

SO SOMETIMES THEY'RE REQUIREMENTS, SOMETIMES THEY'RE RECOMMENDATIONS. WITH COMMUNITY GRANTS, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S PRETTY MUCH CONSENSUS TO REAPPOINT SEVERAL MEMBERS. AND YOU WILL SEE AT THE BOTTOM IF AN ALTERNATE WHOSE TERM IS NOT CURRENTLY EXPIRING IS RECOMMENDED TO MOVE UP, MOVE UP, MOVE UP TO A REGULAR MEMBERSHIP, YOU'LL SEE A SPACE TO APPOINT AN

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MCKINNEY HOUSING AUTHORITY. WE DID WANT TO MAKE NOTE OF THIS PARTICULAR ONE. THIS PARTICULAR RECOMMENDATION DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ATTENDANCE. HOWEVER, THE COUNCIL HAS EMPHASIZED THAT. SO THAT WOULD AGAIN BE UP TO THE COUNCIL TO DETERMINE WHETHER TO REPLACE OR APPOINT SOMEONE, AND WHETHER TO TAKE THEIR PERFORMANCE INTO MIND. SO JUST TO CONFIRM, IF SOMEONE DIDN'T MAKE A APPOINTMENT ON HERE, YOU DEFAULTED TO THE ONE THAT WAS UP FOR RENEWAL, LIKE MIKHAIL. YES, SIR. IN THIS PARTICULAR EXAMPLE, IF THERE WASN'T A REPLACEMENT LISTED BY THAT INDIVIDUAL, THEY RECEIVED CREDIT AS IF THEY GOT THAT NOMINATION. YES, SIR. SO WE HAVE A WE POTENTIALLY HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON HERE THAT DON'T HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT A REPLACEMENT, BUT EXPRESS THAT. AND WE GAVE THEM CREDIT FOR PUTTING A EXISTING MEMBER. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. SO EVEN YOU DO HAVE A HANDFUL OF INCUMBENT MEMBERS WHO DID NOT REAPPLY AND WHO DID NOT ATTEND INTERVIEWS, BUT WE GIVE THEM THAT BENEFIT OF AS IF THEY DID. JUST FOR YOUR REFERENCE, TO BE AWARE THAT THAT PERSON EXISTS. HOWEVER, AGAIN, IT'S UP TO YOU HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH TO WHETHER TO REAPPOINT SOMEONE OR NOT. MCKINNEY HOUSING FINANCE. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF WHERE YOU SEE A FAIRLY CONSISTENT RECOMMENDATION FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE ON THE BOARD TO REMAIN ON THE BOARD. AND AGAIN, ATTENDANCE. WE DO NOT ON THE CITY SECRETARY OR ANY OF THE STAFF SIDE MAKE DETERMINATIONS ABOUT EXCUSED AND UNEXCUSED ABSENCES OR WHAT'S IMPACTED THERE. WE ENCOURAGE THE MEMBERS TO COMMUNICATE AND EXPRESS ANY MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WOULD AFFECT THEIR ATTENDANCE. WITH MAIN STREET. MAIN STREET IS ANOTHER BOARD THAT HAS A LOT OF PROFESSIONAL OR EXPERTISE THAT IS ENCOURAGED TO BE A PART OF THIS BOARD. YOU CAN SEE WITH THE CURRENT MEMBERS THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT ARE RELATED AND CONNECTED TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA IN TERMS OF THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO THIS BOARD. SO THE COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER THAT IN ANY OF FUTURE OF FUTURE NOMINEES THAT GET APPOINTED TO THIS PARTICULAR BOARD. JUST A REMINDER ABOUT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THIS, THIS THIS BOARD IS KIND OF IN A HOLDING SPACE. AND THERE'S INFORMATION THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL IN TERMS OF HOW TO ESTABLISH THAT BOARD FORMALLY, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UPDATED STATE CODES. SO THIS PARTICULAR BOARD, WE WANT TO HOLD OFF ON DOING ANY ACTION ON AUGUST 26TH UNTIL THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS COMMITTEE IS ESTABLISHED. BUT

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AND THEN FINALLY, THIS IS THE TOURIST BOARDS ONE AND TWO. A QUICK NOTE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR BOARD IS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD, AS WELL AS OUR A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE COUNTY WHO RIGHT NOW IS DARRELL HILL. ON BOTH OF THOSE, THE FINAL SEAT ON BOTH OF THESE BOARDS MUST BE A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AS A RECENT CHANGE TO ONE OF THE BYLAWS. SO WE JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. WE DO HAVE NOMINEES FOR THE TRS TWO BOARD, A COUPLE WHO MAY NOT BE PLANNING AND ZONING MEMBERS, SO THEY WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE USED TO BE TRS ONE HAD TO BE PNC. NOW TRS TWO HAS TO BE PNC, CORRECT ALSO. SO BOTH NOW. THANK YOU. AND THOSE ARE ALL OF THE REPORT ITEMS THAT I HAVE FOR YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS I WILL TAKE THEM. QUESTIONS. NONE. AND FIRST THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK ON OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY.

[COUNCIL LIAISON UPDATES regarding City Boards & Commissions]

BUT IT WAS REALLY NICE TO HEAR THAT SO MANY KIDS ARE INVOLVED. ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE? NO. VERY

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

WE'RE GOING TO OPEN A MEETING AND THEN GO DIRECTLY INTO OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION. REOPEN THE

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WE NEED. WE NEED AN ATTORNEY. YOU WERE. YOU KNOCKED LIKE A REAL CIGAR. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN THE WORK SESSION. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CLOUTIER TO ADJOURN THE WORK SESSION. AND SECOND, BY COUNCILMAN FRANKLIN. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE

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