Aug 19, 2025 City Council Regular Meeting

[CALL TO ORDER]

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EMPRESS. VERY GOOD. VERY GOOD. YOU'RE GOOD. GOOD EVENING. IT IS 617. TUESDAY, AUGUST THE 19TH.

THIS IS THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, TEXAS CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE WITH US. WE'LL START OUR MEETING, CALL TO ORDER AND OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS INVOCATION. AND THE INVOCATION TONIGHT WILL BE GIVEN BY MAYOR BILL COX.

MR. PRAY WITH ME, IF YOU WILL. LORD, WE COME TO YOU AT THIS TIME TO GIVE THANKS FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS YOU'VE PLACED IN OUR LIVES. WE GIVE THANKS, LORD, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY LIKE MCKINNEY. LORD, WE GIVE THANKS FOR THE LEADERS THAT HAVE STEPPED UP TO MAKE DECISIONS, TO TAKE TIME AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES. TO SERVE MCKINNEY. WE GIVE THANKS, LORD, FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS WE HAVE. LORD, GUIDE US AND DIRECT US AS WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT IMPACT PEOPLE THAT DON'T EVEN LIVE HERE YET. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN, AMEN. OUR INVOCATION TONIGHT WILL BE BY THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB OF COLLIN COUNTY. THE MCKINNEY BRANCH, ESCORTED BY CAITLIN SUTTON. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALRIGHT, JOHN. PICK HIM UP HERE. HE'S COMING FROM. HIS DAUGHTER.

ALL RIGHT. MIKE. YOU GOTTA GO. OVER YOUR. OKAY FIRST. NEXT ITEM WILL BE THE

[PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS (for Non-Public Hearing Items)]

AND OUR MISSION, IN SHORT, IS TO REMOVE THE LESSNESS FROM HOMELESSNESS IN JESUS NAME. AND I WANTED TO COME BACK UP HERE AFTER OUR WORK SESSION EARLIER AND JUST SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ABOUT IT. I THINK IT WAS KIND OF CLEAR THAT THE ORDINANCES DISCUSSED ARE KIND OF UNCLEAR, AND THAT FURTHER DISCUSSION IS REQUIRED.

AND THAT'S REALLY MY HOPE IS THAT WE JUST HAVE MORE CONVERSATION. I THINK EVERY CITIZEN DESERVES MORE CONVERSATION. BUSINESS OWNER, HOMEOWNER, AND OF COURSE THE PERSON EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. AND I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS TO KEEP CONSIDERING AS, AS THESE ORDINANCES I DON'T THINK ARE GOING TO END HOMELESSNESS AS A, AS A CONCEPT FOR ONE OR REALLY FOR ANYBODY. I THINK IT'S GOING TO ALLOW OUR OFFICERS TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE GROUNDS TO APPROACH SOMEBODY, WHICH I THINK COULD BE GREAT OR TERRIBLE, JUST DEPENDING ON HOW WE APPROACH. I THINK IF WE'RE GOING UP AND ASKING PEOPLE, ARE THEY OKAY BEFORE WE TELL THEM THEY CAN'T BE THERE, IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD PROTOCOL AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SEE, ARE THEY CONNECTED TO SOME OF THE RESOURCES IN THE COMMUNITY. AND

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BUT I THINK OVERALL THIS LIKE WHAT IS OUR RESPONSE TO HOMELESSNESS AS A COMMUNITY AND WHAT DO WE DO? THE THING THAT I FEAR IS SOMETHING THAT IS, I THINK, WELL DEMONSTRATED IN THE MOVIE THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION, WHERE THE INMATE BECOMES THE TERM THEY USE IN THE MOVIE IS INSTITUTIONALIZED, WHERE THEY DON'T LIKE THE WALLS, THEY GET USED TO THE WALLS, AND THEN THEY DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THE WALLS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO OTHER PERCEIVABLE OPPORTUNITY. AND WHAT I FOUND IS THAT THE SOONER WE MEET SOMEBODY IN THEIR SITUATION, THE BETTER THE RESULT. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT PEOPLE FACE IS THERE'S ARE PEOPLE WILLING TO ACCEPT HELP, BUT THEY'RE TOLD THAT THE HELP IS SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR AWAY OR EVEN LONGER. AND SO THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE THEY MIGHT HAVE GONE AFTER THE HELP WITHIN JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS OF BECOMING HOMELESS, BUT THEY BECOME THAT CHRONIC HOMELESS CATEGORY JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAITING. AND IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THEY HAVEN'T TRIED OTHER OPPORTUNITIES EMPLOYMENT. SO BOTTOM LINE IS I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO GET TO UNDERSTAND THE CIRCUMSTANCES MORE, GET TO KNOW THE INDIVIDUAL STORY A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND AGAIN, I WANT TO JUST THANK YOU FOR JUST ADDRESSING THE ISSUE.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU PAUL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU PAUL. NEXT SPEAKER, MICHAEL HUFF. GOOD EVENING. I'M MICHAEL HOLFORD, 1416 BRENTWOOD DRIVE, MCKINNEY, TEXAS, 75072. AND THIS IS GOING TO TAKE ME A LITTLE LONGER THAN THREE MINUTES. SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ITEM THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT. ACCORDING TO RESEARCH STUDY BY HELMS ET AL. IN 2024 FOUND THAT MALE RECIDIVISM RATES INCREASE TO 11 TO 15%. TRANSFERENCE FROM NON CONTACT EVENTS TO CONTACT SEXUAL OFFENSE AGAINST A CHILD, PREPUBESCENT AND OR PRODUCTION OF SEXUAL CONTENT AND DISTRIBUTION. THE RATE OF RECIDIVISM FOR THE CONSUMMATION AND DISTRIBUTION OF CHILD PORNOGRAPHY INCREASES AT AN EXPONENTIAL RATE. THE RESEARCH STUDY ONLINE SEXUAL OFFENDING AGAINST CHILDREN, RECIDIVISM RATES, AND PREDICATORS. THE STUDY, SETO ET AL. 2012 LOOKED AT 4464 MEN INVOLVED IN ONLINE SEXUAL OFFENSES AND 12% HISTORY OF OFFLINE CONTACT SEXUAL OFFENSES AGAINST CHILDREN, AS INDICATED BY OFFICIAL RECORDS.

THEY ALSO FOUND IN A STUDY OF 523 MEN INVOLVED IN ONLINE SEXUAL OFFENSES, 1 IN 2, 55% ADMITTED TO PERPETRATING OFFLINE CONTACT SEXUAL OFFENSES AGAINST CHILDREN AGAIN. SETO ET AL. 2012 IN A FOLLOW UP PERIOD RANGING FROM ONE AND A HALF TO SIX YEARS, SUBSAMPLE OF 2630 MEN WITH ONLINE SEXUAL OFFENSES. RE-OFFENDED WITH ANOTHER SEXUAL OFFENSE WITH A SMALLER SUBSET OF 1247 MEN FOUND THE SAME GROUP, 2% ESCALATED, COMMIT AN OFFLINE SEXUAL OFFENSE AGAINST CHILDREN.

ACCORDING TO RESEARCH STUDIES. SEXUAL OFFENDING THEORY, RESEARCH AND PREVENTION STUDIED 146 SEXUAL OFFENDERS, SEXUAL OFFENDERS OF CHILDREN RELEASED FROM PRISON CUSTODY FOR A PERIOD OF 25 YEARS. OVERALL, 34% OF INDIVIDUALS COMMITTED AT LEAST ONE SEXUAL OFFENSE AGAINST A CHILD IN THE 25 YEARS FOLLOWING RELEASE OF INCARCERATION. MOST SEXUAL RECIDIVISM WITHIN THE FIRST 15 YEARS FOLLOWING RELEASE, THE HIGHEST RATES OF SEXUAL RECIDIVISM WERE OBSERVED FOR INDIVIDUALS UNDER 34 YEARS OF AGE AT RELEASE FROM INCARCERATION, FOR WHOM RECIDIVISM STEADILY INCREASED OVER TIME, PEAKING AT 42% OVER THE COURSE OF THEIR 25 YEARS.

CHILD SEXUAL PREDATORS, ONLINE AND OFFLINE ARE GROWING AT AN EXPONENTIAL RATE DUE TO OVER ACCESS TO CHILDREN, NOT JUST CHILD PORNOGRAPHY, BUT THROUGH ONLINE GAMING, SOCIAL MEDIA, AND RELATIONAL FAMILIARITY. THE SEXUAL EXPLOITATION TRAFFICKING OF CHILDREN IS NOT AN EPIDEMIC.

IT'S A GLOBAL PANDEMIC. THESE PREDATORS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY WHERE THERE ARE CHILDREN. STUDIES SHOW THAT THE RATE OF RECIDIVISM IS STILL ABOVE ACCEPTABLE RATES, WITH MANY ONLINE PREDATORS ESCALATING FROM ONLINE TRAFFICKING OF CHILD SEXUAL EXPLOITATION MATERIALS TO OFFLINE SEXUAL OFFENSES AGAINST CHILDREN, WE MUST ACT. WE MUST TAKE ACTIVE MEASURES AND CITIES AND COMMUNITIES TO AND MUST PREVENT THESE HEINOUS CRIMES BY LIMITING THEIR ACCESS TO CHILDREN EVEN FURTHER. AND THIS IS WHY I ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER

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THANK YOU, MR. HOFF. THANK YOU. HALEY WILCOX. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS HALEY WILCOX. I LIVE AT 1304 TIMBERLINE MCKINNEY, TEXAS, 75072. I LIVE IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD AS MICHAEL. SO I'M HERE TODAY TO OFFER MY UNWAVERING SUPPORT OF ITEM 25 3062. MY NEIGHBORS AND I WERE RECENTLY MADE AWARE THAT A CONVICTED CHILD SEX OFFENDER MOVED INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A COMMUNITY PLAYGROUND AND POOL, WHICH MANY OF US APPARENTLY NAIVELY ASSUMED WOULD PREVENT OFFENDERS FROM RESIDING THERE. AFTER SPEAKING WITH MCKINNEY PD DETECTIVES, I UNFORTUNATELY LEARNED THAT BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A PRIVATELY OWNED HOA, OUR AMENITIES DON'T FALL WITHIN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE GUIDELINES TO RESTRICT REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS FROM LIVING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. BECAUSE OF THIS, WE ALL HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE DISCOMFORT OF KNOWING THIS INDIVIDUAL LIVES AMONG US. I HAVE TWO YOUNG GIRLS WHO ARE EIGHT AND TEN, AND I'VE NOW HAD TO EXPLAIN TO THEM WHO THIS PERSON IS, WHAT HE'S DONE, AT LEAST TO THE EXTENT THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THEIR AGES, AND WHY HE NEEDS TO BE AVOIDED AT ALL COSTS. IN CASE YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS CASE, THIS GROWN MAN I USE THAT TERM LIGHTLY WAS IN POSSESSION OF VARIOUS PICTURES AND VIDEOS OF PREPUBESCENT FEMALES. THE FILE NAME OF ONE OF THOSE VIDEOS HAD THE WORD TODDLER IN IT, AND THESE CHILDREN WERE BEING VIOLATED IN WAYS THAT CHILDREN SHOULD NEVER HAVE TO ENDURE. NOW, EVEN THOUGH I'VE ALWAYS BEEN WHAT YOU MAY CONSIDER AN OVERPROTECTIVE MOM, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT MONSTERS LIKE THIS EXIST EVERYWHERE, I'VE NOW HAD TO BE EVEN MORE DILIGENT AND AWARE IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD. A VILE MAN WHO HAS PERPETUATED THE SEXUAL ABUSE OF CHILDREN NOW LIVES 11 DOORS DOWN FROM WHERE MY DAUGHTERS LAY THEIR HEADS AT NIGHT. AND THAT DOESN'T SIT WELL WITH ME. MY DAUGHTERS, WHO ARE THE PRIME AGE OF THE GIRLS. IN THE CONTENT HE WAS CONVICTED OF POSSESSING. I CAN'T DRIVE PAST HIS HOUSE NOW WITHOUT SCOWLING AND WONDERING WHAT KIND OF SICK THINGS HE MAY STILL BE DOING. YES, HE SPENT YEARS IN PRISON.

BUT. BUT THE MIND OF SOMEONE WHO'S WHO GETS OFF ON THE OF A CHILD DOES NOT CHANGE. AND SOMEONE LIKE THAT SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY, AMONGST OUR CHILDREN.

I KNOW NOTHING CAN LIKELY BE DONE TO CHANGE THE FACT THAT THIS PEDOPHILE LIVES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I PRAY THAT YOU VOTE TO AMEND THIS ORDINANCE TO MAKE MORE SAFE PLACES FOR OUR CHILDREN, AND TO ALLOW NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE MINE WITH PRIVATE HOMES TO LIVE WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF ANY OTHER DISGUSTING OFFENDERS MOVING IN NEXT DOOR. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS WILCOX. ANYONE ELSE HERE TONIGHT THAT

[CONSENT AGENDA]

[Citizen Input on the FY 2025-26 Budget]

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I WANT TO FIRST THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK TONIGHT ON THE BUDGET. RECENTLY, I WAS ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE VIDEO THAT WAS POSTED FOR THE AUGUST 8TH BUDGET WORKSHOP, WHERE VOLUNTEER MCKINNEY'S FUNDING WAS DISCUSSED DURING THAT. DURING THAT PROCESS, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CITY FOR THE CONTINUOUS SUPPORT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN US YEAR OVER YEAR FOR SOME OF THE FUNDING AND INITIATIVES THAT WE'VE DONE HERE FOR OUR CITY. VOLUNTEER MCKINNEY IS A NONPROFIT HERE IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. WE DO SERVICE AND PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR OTHER NONPROFITS IN THE FORM OF EDUCATION, AS WELL AS PROVIDING VOLUNTEERS FOR THEM TO DO THEIR MISSION HERE IN OUR CITY. WHAT WE ALSO DO THAT I THINK IS SOMETIMES MISSED, IS THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY AN EXTENSION OF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS JUST RECENTLY I HAD A MEETING WITH ONE OF YOUR DEPARTMENTS ON FRIDAY WHERE WE WERE ASKED TO PARTNER WITH THEM AND PROVIDE OVER 200 VOLUNTEERS TO WORK IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY

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[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District to “C2” - Local Commercial District, Located on the East of North Custer Road and Approximately 690 Feet North of Easy Lane, and Accompanying Ordinance]

COUNCIL. HELLO. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY EIGHT ACRES. THE REZONE WOULD BE FROM PD, WHICH ALLOWS FOR SINGLE FAMILY USES TO OUR C2 LOCAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. THIS PROPERTY HAS RECENTLY HAD APPROXIMATELY 3.49 ACRES OF PROPERTY RECLAIMED FROM THE FLOODPLAIN, WHICH HAS IMPROVED ITS DEVELOPABILITY STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND HAS FOUND THAT IT DOES ALIGN WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE NORTHRIDGE DISTRICT AND WILL HELP SUPPORT BRINGING COMMERCIAL USES FOR OUR RESIDENTIAL USES WITHIN THE AREA. DUE TO THE ALIGNMENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS ANYONE KNOW? CAITLIN. THANK YOU. THIS IS A I'M SORRY, IS OUR APPLICANT HERE? YEAH. THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS STEPHEN SMITH, 3505 WOODHAVEN DRIVE AND FARMERS BRANCH, TEXAS. WE ARE. WE CURRENTLY OWN THE LAND THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I THINK THE CITY HAS BEEN REALLY, REALLY GREAT TO WORK WITH. VERY MUCH APPRECIATE ALL THAT THE CITY HAS DONE TO REALLY WHAT WE WERE HOPING TO DO IS ALIGN THE VISION OF THE PROPERTY, OUR HEART, AND THIS IS TO REALLY BRING AS MUCH VALUE AS WE CAN TO THE COMMUNITY. AND WHAT WE WERE EXCITED TO LEARN IS IT REALLY ALIGNS WHAT WE FEEL LIKE WITH

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ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION CARRIES. THE ITEM HAS BEEN APPROVED. NEXT ITEM 250010Z2. A PUBLIC HEARING

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Generally to Allow a New and Unlisted Use (Multi-Family, Senior Living) and Modify the Development Standards, Located on the South Side of McKinney Ranch Parkway and Approximately 950 Feet West of South Lake Forest Drive, and Accompanying Ordinance]

ANYONE? QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE AN APPLICANT HERE? YES. YES. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, I THINK I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED AND MAYBE STAFF CAN CATCH UP WITH ME ON SLIDES THAT I HAD. MY NAME IS BOB ROEDER. MY BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 1700 REDBUD, SUITE 300, MCKINNEY, TEXAS. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF PALLADIUM, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPER FOR THIS PROJECT PRESENTATION I WANT TO GIVE YOU TONIGHT IS BASICALLY BROKEN DOWN INTO THREE PARTS. I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE OF THE PROJECT. I WANT TO ADDRESS THE DEVIATIONS FROM THE STANDARD ZONING WE ARE. WE ARE MIRRORING THIS ON A MF 30 ZONING

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WELL, TO START WITH, THIS IS A 109 UNIT SENIOR MULTIFAMILY PROJECT. IT'S RESTRICTED TO RESIDENTS THAT ARE 62 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER. THIS IS A TAX CREDIT PROJECT, WHICH I WANT TO DIFFERENTIATE THAT FROM A PFC OR AN MFC. THIS IS NOT A TAX EXEMPT PROJECT, BUT THIS IS A PROJECT THAT PALLADIUM, BASED UPON YOUR RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING IT PASSED IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, WENT TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND WAS ABLE TO BE AWARDED 4% TAX CREDITS. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THEY THEN SELL INTO THE FINANCE MARKET, BANKS OF AMERICA AND WHATNOT. AND THEY ATTRACT THE CAPITAL THAT THEY NEED TO BUILD TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY IN EXCHANGE FOR GIVING THEM THE TAX CREDITS. AND THAT ALLOWS THEM TO BRING THE PRODUCT ONLINE AND OFFER MUCH LOWER RESIDENTIAL LEASE RATES THAN THAN YOU WOULD IN A CONVENTIONAL CONVENTIONAL FINANCING MECHANISM. 109 UNITS 62 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER. THE LOCATION IS IDEAL FOR THIS. WE'RE JUST HALF A BLOCK AWAY FROM THE WALMART AND THAT COMPLEX THERE AT LAKE FOREST AND MCKINNEY RANCH PARKWAY. THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF OTHER PROFESSIONAL OFFICES IN THE AREA, HEALTH RELATED PROFESSIONAL OFFICES IN THE AREA, IDEAL LOCATION. AND THIS IS SERVING A NEED THAT WE HAVE A BIG HOLE FOR. THIS IS GOING TO SERVE THE NEED OF OUR SENIOR POPULATION THAT ARE STRUGGLING ON FIXED INCOMES TO MAKE ENDS MEET. AND I THINK WHEN MR. HUTH GETS UP AND DESCRIBES THE DISCOUNTS, THEN YOU'LL SEE WHAT I MEAN ON YOUR SCREEN. I HOPE Y'ALL CAN GET IT THERE. THIS IS WHAT THE BREAKDOWN OF THE UNIT MIX IS GOING TO BE AND WHAT THE DISCOUNTS UNDER THE AMI. THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME. YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS. YOU'VE SEEN THIS MANY TIMES. ONLY 26% OF THE 109 UNITS ARE GOING TO BE MARKET, WHICH MEANS THAT 74% ARE GOING TO BE ON SOME LEVEL OF DISCOUNT. WE'VE BROKEN THESE DOWN ONE BEDROOM AND TWO BEDROOM UNITS, AND WE'VE BROKEN DOWN THOSE THAT YOU WILL HAVE A 30% AMI TO QUALIFY, ALL THE WAY UP TO AN 80% AMI. THIS IS EXACTLY THE PRODUCT AND EXACTLY THE KIND OF DISCOUNTS THAT WE SEARCH FOR IN MCKINNEY. I KNOW I'VE VISITED WITH EACH ONE OF YOU ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS. I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS THE SECOND TAX CREDIT PROJECT THAT PALLADIUM HAS DONE IN MCKINNEY. THEIR LAST ONE WAS ON VIRGINIA STREET. YOU APPROVED THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THEY'VE ALSO DONE A MARKET PROJECT IN MCKINNEY. AND THAT'S THAT'S AT CRAIG RANCH, VERY QUALIFIED DEVELOPER. WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING ON THE GROUND HERE IS A FIRST CLASS PRODUCT, FIRST CLASS AMENITIES, FIRST CLASS FINISHES AND ALL THAT STUFF. SO THE FACT THAT SOMEONE CAN RENT A UNIT HERE AT AT A DISCOUNT AND IN SOME CASES A DEEP DISCOUNT, DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE PRODUCT IS NOT GOING TO BE A ONE. OKAY. LET'S TALK FOR A MINUTE ABOUT THE VARIANCES. THIS SITE IS A VERY SHALLOW SITE AND LET ME SEE IF I CAN MOVE ALONG HERE OKAY. THIS IS THE PROPOSED THIS IS AT THIS STAGE IT'S A CONCEPT PLAN BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T SUBMITTED IT AS A SITE PLAN. BUT THERE'S SOME THINGS ON HERE I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT, THAT HAVE NECESSITATED OUR REQUEST FOR THE VARIANCES FROM YOUR STANDARD MF 30 MULTIFAMILY ZONING REGULATIONS. AS YOU'LL SEE ON THIS CONCEPT PLAN, MCKINNEY RANCH PARKWAY IS AT THE NORTH. THERE'S A 50 FOOT GAS LINE EASEMENT ADJACENT TO MCKINNEY RANCH PARKWAY, AND YOU CAN'T BUILD IN THAT. YOU CAN'T PLANT TREES IN THAT. YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING IN THAT. SO THAT'S JUST LOST PROPERTY FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE. WE HAD TO PAY FOR IT, BUT IT'S LOST PROPERTY IN TERMS OF PUTTING BUILDINGS AND PARKING AND ALL THAT ON IT. SO

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SO FROM US, FOR US TO BE FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE OF THE TOWNHOMES TO THE THREE AND FOUR STORY BUILDINGS, WE EXCEED THAT RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY NUMBER THAT IS INTENDED IN THE ORDINANCE. IT'S JUST FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, WE CAN'T COUNT THE ALLEY. OKAY. THAT ALLEY ALSO DOES ANOTHER THING TO US, NOT FOR US, BUT TO US. AND THAT IS WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A MASONRY WALL ALONG OUR SOUTH, NOT ON THE BOUNDARY LINE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD IT TEN FEET BACK AND RECOGNIZE THAT SOUTH, THAT TEN FOOT SETBACK WE'RE REQUESTING. THAT'S THE AREA IN WHICH WE'RE SUPPOSED TO PLANT CANOPY TREES. AND WE THOUGHT THAT WAS PROBABLY A MISTAKE, BECAUSE THOSE CANOPY TREES ARE GOING TO GROW INTO THE ALLEY AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF. SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO PLANT ALONG THAT SOUTH TEN FEET, TEN FOOT SETBACK ORNAMENTAL TREES, WHICH WILL NOT HAVE THE BIG CANOPY COVERS. IT WILL PROVIDE THE LOOK AND FEEL TO SHIELD THAT WALL. BUT WE THINK IT'S A MUCH BETTER MARRIAGE OF MATERIALS THERE DOESN'T IMPEDE ACCESS WAY ON THE ALLEY AND WHATNOT. AND I WANT TO MAKE A WELL I'LL GO INTO THAT IN A MINUTE. ON THE SIDE YARDS HERE WE ARE ADJACENT TO A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ON THE EAST SIDE, AND WE'RE ADJACENT TO A VACANT PROPERTY ON THE WEST SIDE THAT IS ZONED COMMERCIAL. YOU'LL NOTICE FROM THE SITE PLAN OR THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WE'VE GOT DRIVEWAYS THAT EXIST THAT GO INTO THE PROPERTY ON THE WEST SIDE. AND SO WE REALLY DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT A WALL THERE. WE'RE PROPOSING TO USE SHRUBBERY GREEN. YOU KNOW, THE GREEN STUFF, RIGHT. TO PROVIDE A SHIELD ON THE WEST SIDE. ON THE EAST SIDE, WE ALSO HAVE A BIG FIRE LANE THAT COMES THROUGH THERE. WE'VE GOT BUILDINGS ADJACENT TO IT THAT ALREADY HAVE LANDSCAPE SCREENING THERE. SO WE'RE PROPOSING AGAIN TO USE THE LANDSCAPE SCREENING INSTEAD OF A MASONRY WALL THERE. SO THAT'S SO THE VARIANCES.

WE'RE SEEKING 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER INSTEAD OF I MEAN TEN FOOT INSTEAD OF 20. WE'RE SEEKING TO CHANGE AND REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPE MATERIALS AROUND THE PERIMETER. AND WE ARE SEEKING TO REDUCE THE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY ON THE FROM THE TOWNHOMES TO THE SOUTH.

THANK I BELIEVE MISS STRICKLAND ALSO MENTIONED WE ARE WE'RE CHEATING A LITTLE BIT ON THE STREET ON THE TREES IN THE PARKING AREA. I THINK I HAVEN'T GONE BACK AND DONE THE CALCULATION. WE HAVE A CALCULATION THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TREE IN THE PARKING AREA FOR EVERY, EVERY, EVERY SEVEN SPACES. THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TREE EVERY SEVEN SPACES. THAT'S JUST THE WAY YOU COME UP TO THE COUNT. AND I THINK WE'RE PROVIDING THE RIGHT NUMBER OF TREES. WE JUST DON'T HAVE THEM SPREAD THE WAY THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY SEE IT.

I THINK THE VARIANCES THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE ARE VERY MANAGEABLE. I DON'T THINK THEY

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IT'S INTERESTING ALWAYS TO TALK ABOUT THESE KINDS OF THINGS IN THEORETICAL TERMS, BUT I WANT TO INVITE TOM HUTH UP FOR JUST A SECOND. AND I WANT YOU TO HEAR ON THE GROUND FROM A DOLLAR AND CENTS PERSPECTIVE, WHAT THESE DISCOUNTS MEAN. AND WHEN HE'S FINISHED, I'LL, WE'LL CLOSE OUR PRESENTATION AND I'LL ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THIS, THIS MATTER AS WE'VE REQUESTED. I'M GOING TO LET TOM SPEAK, AND THEN I'LL BE HERE WITH HIM TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU. BOB. MAYOR COX, COUNCIL MEMBERS. TOM HUTH, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF PALLADIUM USA. IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE THIS EVENING. SO, BOB, YOU STOLE MY THUNDER, BABE. SO, YOU KNOW, USUALLY I TALK ABOUT ARMY AND EVERYBODY GOES ASLEEP. OKAY. YOU DID SUCH AN ELOQUENT JOB. YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS FOR US IN EVERY DEAL THAT WE DO. IS THAT ALL RIGHT? BUT I DO WANT TO CONGRATULATE BOB ON A BRAND NEW BABY GRANDSON. OKAY. SO CONGRATULATIONS, BOB. SO, CAESAR, WHICH I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT CAESAR IN A SECOND. CAESAR SAID, HOPEFULLY I CAN SMOKE THIS CIGAR. TOM. SO NOW, CAESAR, THIS IS GUM, ACTUALLY. SO DON'T TRY SMOKING THIS. CAESAR RANCH WAS OUR OWNER WHO CAME IN FROM ITALY JUST FOR THIS MEETING THIS EVENING. OKAY. HE'S DEDICATED. DRIVING UP HERE. WE DRIVE BY OUR PROPERTY AND CRAIG RANCH, WHICH WE BOUGHT IN 2006 OR 7. BOB SAID IT WAS A GOOD BUY AT THE TIME.

OKAY. HELD IT EVER SINCE AND WE ARE GOING TO START CONSTRUCTION VERY SOON ON IT. THE SALESMANSHIP CLUB'S BEEN PARKING ON IT FOR FIVE YEARS NOW. OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO START CONSTRUCTION ON THAT. AS WE'RE DRIVING BY THAT, THEN WE DRIVE BY OUR PLACE IN MCKINNEY SITES UP ON VIRGINIA PARKWAY. AND CAESAR SAYS, TOM, MY GRANDFATHER WAS BORN IN 1848. OKAY. THAT'S FANTASTIC. CAESAR. OKAY. HE SAYS, THAT'S IMPORTANT. AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY WHEN WE GET TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. SO WE COME IN, WE SIT DOWN. OKAY? CAESAR POINTS CITY, MCKINNEY, TEXAS, ESTABLISHED 1848, THE SAME YEAR THAT CAESAR'S GRANDFATHER WAS BORN. TONIGHT WE ARE HERE REPRESENTING OUR GREAT CITY, MCKINNEY. SENIOR CITIZENS AGE 62 PLUS WITH MCKINNEY RANCH SENIOR LIVING. WHY IS TONIGHT SO IMPORTANT? OUR SENIORS ARE SUCH GREAT ROLE MODELS FOR OUR YOUTH.

THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE A PART OF OUR MCKINNEY COMMUNITY. THEY WANT TO FEEL NEEDED. THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO LIVE CLOSE TO THEIR FAMILIES. WHAT IS STOPPING THIS FROM HAPPENING? THE CONTINUAL ESCALATION IN HOUSING COSTS WITHIN A ONE MILE RADIUS OF THIS SITE, THERE ARE ZERO SENIOR HOUSING PROPERTIES WITHIN A THREE MILE RADIUS OF THIS SITE. THERE ARE ZERO AFFORDABLE SENIOR HOUSING PROPERTIES. THERE ARE FIVE MARKET RATE SENIOR HOUSING PROPERTIES WITHIN A THREE MILE RADIUS. CHATEAU RENT OF $3,965 A MONTH. HIDDEN SPRINGS RENT OF $3,594 A MONTH. BELL TOWER RESERVE RENTS $1,976 A MONTH. MAYOR CRAIG RANCH RENT $1,899 PER MONTH, AND OVERTURE FAIRVIEW RENT $2,072 A MONTH. HOW MANY SENIORS CAN REALLY AFFORD THIS TYPE OF RENT? NOT MANY. PLAYDIUM MCKINNEY RANCH SENIOR LIVING AVERAGE RENT PER MONTH WILL BE $1,376, 28% LESS THAN THE LOWEST SENIOR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. MIRA CRAIG RANCH, 65% LESS THAN THE

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TOM OR I ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. MEMBERS. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU BEING HERE VERY MUCH. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. IF ANYONE IS IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THIS PROPOSED REZONE, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. MY NAME IS RICHARD STONEAGE AND I OWN 5321 LOCUST DRIVE IN MCKINNEY. AND FOR THE RECORD, I LIVE AT 1915 SAN CARLOS AVENUE IN ALAN. THANK YOU. I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE ZONING THAT'S GOING ON. WE'RE SOUTH OF THE OF THE BUILDING SITE PROPOSED AND THE HOA. I'M ALSO THE BOARD OF DIRECTOR MEMBER FOR THE HOA. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HEARD OF THIS BEING BUILT AND HEARD OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE BEING PRESENTED. A LITTLE HISTORY. ALL OF US BOUGHT IN THAT COMMUNITY KNOWING THERE WAS GOING TO BE SINGLE HEIGHT RETAIL. WE NEVER EXPECTED A FOUR STORY BUILDING BEING BUILT IN THE COMMUNITY NORTH OF US. WE HAVE WE HAVE ISSUES WITH THE NOT NOT THE NOT THE SENIOR CITIZENS. SITE. WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS, A LITTLE INDICATION OF JUST WHAT WAS SAID IS THE FACT THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR VARIANCE, VARIANCES, THE NARROWNESS OF THE SITE. IT'S TOO SMALL. WE HAVE A WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY AREA IN THE CORNER OF THE FACILITY THAT'S THAT'S NORTH OF US THAT HAS TO ACCOMMODATE FIRE, FIRE ENGINES, AMBULANCES AND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. WE FEEL IT'S TOO NARROW. THEY WANT TO RESTRICT AND DO SOME CHEATING ON THE SETBACKS FROM 20FT TO 10FT. WE HAVE HOUSES THAT BACK UP RIGHT NEXT TO A FOUR STORY BUILDING. AND NO, WE WERE NOT INVITED TO ANY MEETING. THE COMMUNITY I'VE TALKED TO AND THE HOA RESIDENTS IS THAT I REPRESENT AT MY FIDUCIARY DUTY AS A BOARD OF DIRECTOR REPRESENTS THEY'RE NOT HAPPY WITH IT. WE'VE HAD NO MEETINGS THERE. YOU'VE BEEN INVITED TO A MEETING, AND I'M ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. THE HOA WAS IN CONTACTED. THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY WASN'T CONTACTED. WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT. WE HAD A BOARD MEETING YESTERDAY. HARRY. YOU'LL TALK IN A MINUTE. HE HAS A HE HAS MORE. MORE OF A STAKE IN THIS. PROBABLY THAN THAN OTHER OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS BECAUSE HE HE BACKS UP TO IT.

THERE'S OTHER WE HAVE WE HAVE A SUN DECKS OUT IN THE BACK OF OUR TOWNHOMES THAT WILL DIRECTLY STARE INTO A FOUR STORY BUILDING. BECAUSE THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHER POINTS I WANT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE WITH WITH THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WILL BE THERE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FOUR TIMES THE NOISE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FOUR TIMES THE TRAFFIC. HE TALKED ABOUT WALMART. WE HAVE A GREAT COMMUNITY. THERE'S A WALMART IN WALKING DISTANCE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FOOT TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE EMERGENCY VEHICLES PROBABLY FOUR TIMES. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FOUR TIMES THE NOISE LIGHTS GOING ON AND OFF. NOW I JUST PUT MY PARENTS THROUGH ASSISTED LIVING, SENIOR LIVING AND ALL THE REST OF IT, SO I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. THERE IS A NEED FOR THAT. I AGREE, BUT NOT A FOUR STORY BUILDING AND THREE STORY BUILDINGS. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A FOUR STORY BUILDING BEHIND THEIR HOME. LET ME KNOW IF YOU DO. AND WHAT ABOUT THE PROPERTY VALUES? I

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WANT TO HAVE QUESTIONS OR CONVERSATION WITH STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? MR. ROEDER, DO YOU MIND JOINING US BACK UP HERE? AND PERHAPS BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS HAVE AN UNDERSTANDABLE CONCERN ABOUT FOUR STORIES, BUT WALK US THROUGH AGAIN, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT TIGHTER IN TERMS OF HOW FAR THE FOUR STORIES IS AWAY AND HOW IT IT GOES WITH HOW THE CITY MIGHT NORMALLY BUILD SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITH RESPECT TO BACKING UP AGAINST RESIDENTS AND WHAT THEY CAN SEE AND PROBABLY NOT SEE. OKAY, LET ME GET TO LET ME GET TO THE SITE PLAN OR THE CONCEPT PLAN HERE.

THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. I THINK I DRAW ON THIS THING NOW. TO START WITH. THE BUILDINGS BEGAN.

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IF YOU ADD THE 20 FOOT ALLEY BEHIND IT, THAT'S GOING TO BE 85FT. THE CITY MCKINNEY RECOGNIZES THAT IF YOU HAVE A THREE STORY BUILDING ADJACENT TO A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, AND WE'LL THROW TOWNHOME IN THERE, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO FEET OF SETBACK FOR EVERY ONE FEET FOOT OF ELEVATION. THESE BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO PROBABLY BE 36FT TALL. THE TWO STORIES, THE THREE STORIES OR I'M SORRY, THE THREE STORY IS GOING TO BE 42FT TALL. AND SO THE SETBACK WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 84FT. WE'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD IT AT 75 WITH THE 20 FOOT ALLEY. THE FOUR STORY BUILDINGS DON'T START UNTIL RIGHT HERE. AND THEY'RE INTENTIONALLY BUILT, MOVED BACK TO GIVE FURTHER DISTANCE FROM THE NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH. AND THE DISTANCE FROM HERE TO HERE IS 150FT, WITH THE ALLEY, IT'S 100. IT'S 170FT. SO, I MEAN, I GET IT. IF A BUILDING, IF THE THREE STORY AND FOUR STORY BUILDINGS ARE RIGHT HERE. I GET THEIR CONCERN. BUT THESE BUILDINGS HAVE SPECIFICALLY BEEN SET BACK TO THE NORTH TO CREATE THAT SEPARATION. SO MY WORDS, NOT YOURS. BUT TELL ME WHERE I'M WRONG. WE HAVE AN ALLEY THAT ADDS ESSENTIALLY TO THE SETBACK.

FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, IF IT WERE NOT AN ALLEY, IF IT WERE JUST GREEN LAND SPACE, BUT STILL THE SAME DISTANCES. GIVEN THAT WE HAVE AN ALLEY, YOU WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY, CORRECT? OKAY. WHAT ABOUT WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT TWO OTHER THINGS THE ABILITY TO WALK OUT OF A CERTAIN GATE, WHICH I ANTICIPATE IS A LITTLE BIT TO THE NORTH OF THEM, TO BE ABLE TO GET TO WALMART. WILL THEY STILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT? YES. SO THIS RIGHT HERE IS A FIRE LANE. IT'S NOT ACCORDING TO THE FIRE MARSHAL. IT IS NOT DESIGNED FOR PUBLIC USE. IT'S DESIGNED FOR FIRE ACCESS. AND SO IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING A GATE ACROSS HERE AND A GATE ACROSS HERE WITH THE KNOX LOCK MECHANISM ON IT, SO THAT THE FIRE TRUCKS AND THE EMERGENCY, THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES CAN ACCESS IT RIGHT THROUGH HERE. THIS IS NEVER INTENDED TO BE A PUBLIC ACCESS WAY, BUT THIS PROPERTY IS BURDENED BY THAT, RIGHT? SO IN OUR PLAN, WE WOULD. WHILE IT WOULDN'T BE A STRAIGHT SHOT LIKE THIS, IN OUR PLAN, WE WOULD HAVE TO CONTEND WITH ALL THE TURNING RADII, TURNING RADII TO ALLOW AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE TO GET FROM HERE TO THERE. AND THE OTHER POINT THAT THEY MADE WAS. THAT SENIORS LIVING ON THE MAYBE THE THIRD FLOOR WOULD HAVE A TOUGH TIME GETTING DOWN FROM A FIRE.

IS IT TYPICAL WHEN YOU LOOK AT SENIOR TYPE BUILDINGS LIKE THIS TO HAVE THREE FLOORS OR FOUR? IT IS. THESE ARE ELEVATOR SERVED. THEY'RE REDUNDANT SYSTEMS IN THERE. BUT YOU COULD IMAGINE A SITUATION WHERE THERE WAS A FIRE, THE ELEVATOR WENT OUT, AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD JUST HAVE TO HELP THE SENIORS DOWN ON A STAIRWELL. BUT WHEN TOM WAS TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES, SOME OF THOSE ARE THREE STORY, TOO. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. OKAY. AND THEY AREN'T THEY AREN'T ARMY PRODUCTS. THEY'RE MARKET RATE BY AND LARGE. I THINK THE ONES HE WAS TALKING ABOUT. SO THAT'S A COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY THING THAT THE SENIORS ARE MOVING INTO TO THEIR AUSPICIOUSLY, BECAUSE YOU NEED A CRITICAL MASS TO MAKE THESE THINGS WORK AND TO MAKE THE RENTS WORK. YES. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? ANYONE? NO, THANK YOU, MR. ROEDER. WE HAVE MOTIONS, CONVERSATIONS. I'LL MAKE ONE REMARK, MR. MAYOR. Y'ALL, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT ABOUT THIS THING TODAY AND MAKING A SCRUB. THIS THING. THIS COUNCIL. A COUPLE HOURS AGO WAS ENTERTAINING, AND IT'S STILL ENTERTAINING. SOME THOUGHTS IN TERMS OF ORDINANCES THAT WE DO ABOUT HOMELESS PEOPLE. WE HAVE

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IT DOESN'T HAVE ELEVATORS. MY QUESTION WAS, HOW AM I GOING TO GET THE LARGEST GROWING POPULATION OF HOMELESS, WHICH IS OVER 70 WITH ONLY SOCIAL SECURITY? HOW AM I GOING TO GET THEM UP AND DOWN THE STAIRS ALL THE TIME? AND WE'RE NOT. NOW THAT THING PASSED AND I HOPE IT'S A BLESSING TO SOME PEOPLE. BUT WHEN I GO TO MY OFFICE IN DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY, IT'S FREQUENT THAT I SEE PEOPLE THAT ARE EVIDENTLY OVER 70 YEARS OLD AND ARE HOMELESS AND ARE ON THE STREETS AND ONLY HAVE SOCIAL SECURITY. I GET THE MITIGATING FACTORS HERE. I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS DONE A GREAT JOB IN ASSUAGING THOSE ASSUAGING THEM TO MY LEVEL, BUT CANDIDLY, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THIS FOR THE MOMS AND DADS OF SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AROUND HERE THAT YOU KNOW THEY WANT TO LIVE NEAR THEIR KIDS, THEY WANT TO LIVE NEAR THEIR GRANDKIDS, BUT THEY FLAT CAN'T AFFORD IT. AND IT IS A PROBLEM. AND SOME OF THEM ARE HOMELESS. AND SO I APPRECIATE THIS ITEM AND I'LL BE SUPPORTING IT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS ITEM. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FRANKLIN TO APPROVE THE ITEM. I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. OKAY. THAT MOTION CARRIES BY A VOTE OF SEVEN IN FAVOR AND ZERO AGAINST. I THINK 6 TO 1. MR. MAYOR, I THINK OUR MAYOR PRO TEM. I THINK I CHASED HER OUT. I'M SORRY, I APOLOGIZE. SIX IN FAVOR AND ZERO AGAINST. THE NEXT ITEM IS

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request from the McKinney Housing Finance Corporation on Behalf of the City of McKinney to Rezone the Subject Property from “O1” - Office District to “PD” - Planned Development District, Located on the West Side of North Lake Forest Drive and Approximately 135 Feet North of Bridgeport Road, and Accompanying Ordinance]

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[CITIZEN COMMENTS on Matters not on the Agenda]

THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU, MISS WASHINGTON. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. AMY PIATT.

HI, AMY PIATT, I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO SPEAK ON 113 EAST VIRGINIA. IT'S THE PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY THAT I RENT FOR MY BUSINESS. I OWN ROCKIN AB AS WELL AS MAMIE LOU DOWNTOWN ON MAIN STREET. I'M ALSO THE SITTING CHAIR FOR MAIN STREET MCKINNEY. SO I WANTED TO BASICALLY ASK FOR SOME HELP. I KNOW THIS IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN ON THE AGENDA AND IT'S ENFORCEMENT ON ORDINANCES DOWNTOWN. WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN AMPLIFIED NOISE ORDINANCES AND WHETHER THEY'RE ABLE TO BE ENFORCED OR NOT. JUST IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR ABOUT A YEAR, AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS IN OUR MAIN STREET MEETINGS, AND IT HAS BECOME, I MEAN IT AD NAUSEAM. EVERY TIME THAT THERE'S A MEETING, THERE'S SOMETHING COMING UP ABOUT THIS. CHIEF JOE HAS BEEN THERE AS WELL AND TRIED HIS BEST, BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME, SOME PART OF THE ORDINANCES THAT CANNOT BE ENFORCED. AND SO BUT IT'S AFFECTING OUR BUSINESSES. AT 4:00 ON FRIDAYS. NOW, THERE ARE STREET PREACHERS THAT COME IN AND START ON THE NORTH, NORTH OF WEST VIRGINIA AND TENNESSEE AND START EITHER ON AMPLIFIED SOUND. IT'LL TAKE A LITTLE BIT FOR THE POLICE TO GET THERE. AND THEN THE EXCUSE IS THAT EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE, THEY CAN'T ENFORCE IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A DECIBEL READER. MY HUSBAND GOT A DECIBEL READER ON HIS PHONE, JUST AN APP, AND THEY WERE AT 82. AND THE ORDINANCE SAYS 70DB. MY, I CAN'T OPERATE A BUSINESS THAT WAY, NOT AT 4:00 TO 7:00. AND, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL OF MAIN STREET IS TO KEEP EVERYTHING OPEN. AND I'M A PLAYER, I WANT TO I WANT TO BE OPEN, BUT WE CAN'T. AND THEY'RE TAKING UP THE SIDEWALKS. THEY'RE HANDING OUT THINGS TO PEOPLE. SOMETIMES THEY'RE SHAMING THEM. IT'S JUST ANNOYING TO BE HONEST.

WHEN THEY DO. WHEN THEY DO STOP THE AMPLIFICATION, THEY'LL START YELLING. AND HONESTLY, WHEN THEY START YELLING, IT GETS TO 82DB. SO IT'S EVEN WORSE. AND IT STARTED TO AFFECT US A LOT. I MEAN, FINANCIALLY, IT'S REALLY AFFECTING SALES TO THE POINT THAT WE'RE HAVING TO CONSIDER

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THEY'RE ASKING TO BE ESCORTED TO THEIR CARS. WE HAVE ALSO HAD ANOTHER PERSON, I GUESS THIS WAS ON MONDAY THAT I DON'T KNOW THE BEST WAY TO SAY THIS, BUT IS KNOWN FOR. PROSTITUTION, AND THEY WERE SITTING OUT IN FRONT OF OUR STORE. I HAD THE VIDEO OF A GRANDMA SHOPPING AND THEN THIS OTHER PERSON WALKING BY, AND I DO HAVE INDECENT PICTURES, BUT I JUST, I JUST NEED SOME HELP. SO PLEASE CONTACT ME IF Y'ALL CAN HELP ME IN ANY WAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU AMY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HERE TONIGHT THAT MAYBE HAS NOT REGISTERED THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL? VERY GOOD.

WE WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO. I'M SORRY I JUMPED THE GUN, MISTER GRIMES. COUNCIL COMMENTS.

[COUNCIL AND MANAGER COMMENTS]

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