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CITIZENS OF MCKINNEY. AT THIS TIME. I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH
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IS GOING TO BE ITEM 253327. THIS IS PART OF THE CONSENT ITEMS. THE MINUTES OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING OF OCTOBER 14TH, 2025. I DO ALSO WANT TO ADD THAT THERE WERE TWO AMENDMENTS TO THOSE MINUTES. BUT DO WE HAVE A MOTION? WHAT WERE THE AMENDMENTS? DEIDRE. COMMISSIONER WOODARD, WHAT WERE THE AMENDMENTS? THANK YOU. GINA.THERE WERE TWO MISSPELLINGS, NAME MISSPELLINGS THAT HAVE BEEN CORRECTED. OKAY. I WAS READING THROUGH AND I NOTICED ON ITEM 25 0009 SUPP. THE FUEL SALES OF 7-ELEVEN AT THE CORNER OF BLOOMDALE AND. NO, THAT'S NOT IT. I'M SORRY. THE OTHER ONE. THE OTHER ONE. ANYWAY, WE HAD APPROVED IT WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THEY WOULD ADD ADDITIONAL SCREENING AND. I GUESS SOME SOME O THE SHRUBBERY, THE LANDSCAPING. SOLID WALL. YES, THE SOLID WALL. AND THAT WASN'T REFLECTED IN THE MINUTES. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT NEEDED TO BE AMENDED TO READ THAT OR IF IT WAS. IF THAT WAS OKAY. WE CAN HAVE THE MINUTES UPDATED TO NOTE THAT THERE WAS DISCUSSION BY PLANNING AND ZONING, AND THAT THERE WAS REQUESTED AMENDMENTS. OKAY. YEAH. PERFECT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, AS AMENDED. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A FIRST FROM MR. CRAIG AND A SECOND BY MR. BUECHNER. MR. LEBO.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LEBO. AND WAS FIRST BY WAS FIRST BY SECOND. SECOND BY BUECHNER. IT WAS FIRST BY LEBO. SECOND BY BUECHNER. RIGHT. OKAY. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. ARE WE GOING TO CORRECT IT? WE NEED TO CORRECT THE MOVER. AND THE SECOND THE MOTION WAS MADE BY.
LEBO AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BUECHNER. THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO. OKAY. AND THAT MOTION PASSES 7 TO 0. NOW WE'LL MOVE TO THE REGULAR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. NEXT ITEM IS ITEM
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Design Exception to a Site Plan for a Warehouse (Hopewell Industrial), Located Southeast Corner of McIntyre Road and State Highway 5 (McDonald Street)]
25-0044 SP CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS ACT ON A DESIGN EXCEPTION TO A SITE. PLAN FOR A WAREHOUSE. HOPEWELL INDUSTRY INDUSTRIAL LOCATED LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF MCINTYRE ROAD AND STATE HIGHWAY FIVE, WHICH IS MCDONALD STREET. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSION KATE STRICKLAND, PLANNING MANAGER WITH THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REMOVE 65 QUALITY TREES REPRESENTING 100% OF THE QUALITY TREES WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN AREA ON THIS 14.46 ACRE SITE AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF MCINTYRE AND STATE HIGHWAY FIVE, UNDER OUR CITY'S TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO REMOVE 30% OF THE TREES BY RIGHT IF THEY MEET ANY OF THE EXCEPTION REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE WITHIN OUR ORDINANCE. HOWEVER, THEY ARE REQUESTING TO REMOVE 100%, SO THEY ARE HAVING TO COME BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING TO REQUEST THAT DESIGN EXCEPTION FROM Y'ALL. SO I DID WANT TO PULL UP, I THINK. RIGHT HERE. SO THIS IS THE SITE IN ITS[00:05:06]
TOTALITY FOR THE TREE REMOVAL AND THE TREE PRESERVATION PLAN. AND THEN ZOOMED IN IS THE AREA IN QUESTION FOR THE FLOODPLAIN. AND SO AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, AS I NOTED BEFORE, THERE ARE ONLY 65 TREES WITHIN THAT FLOODPLAIN AREA. AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REMOVE 100% OF THEM. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT OUR ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT SPECIFICALLY APPLIES TO FLOODPLAIN AREAS NOT AND DOES NOT DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE FEMA DESIGNATED AND THE CITY DESIGNATED FLOODPLAINS. THE REQUESTS ARE. IN ADDITION, A FLOOD STUDY FOR THE SITE HAS NOT YET BEEN APPROVED, AND AS A RESULT, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF TREES PROPOSED COULD BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU WOULD SEE BEFORE YOU TODAY. I ALSO HAVE OUR ENGINEER, RYAN HUNTER HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO DRAINAGE, AND HE CAN ALSO ANSWER SOME FLOODPLAIN QUESTIONS AS WELL. FOR Y'ALL, THE REMOVAL OF THE QUALITY TREES WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN DOES RAISE ENVIRONMENTAL AND FUNCTIONAL DRAINAGE CONCERNS FOR THE CITY. TREES AND FLOODPLAIN PROVIDE ESSENTIAL BENEFITS INCLUDING STORMWATER ABSORPTION, EROSION CONTROL, AND NATURAL FLOODPLAIN MITIGATION. THE COMPLETE LOSS WOULD DIMINISH THE FLOODPLAINS ABILITY IN THIS AREA. STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE PRESERVATION OF ADDITIONAL QUALITY TREES COULD BE ACHIEVED THROUGH MORE THOUGHTFUL REDESIGN OF THE SITE. GIVEN THESE FACTORS, STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE PROPOSED DESIGN EXCEPTION. I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AS IS RYAN AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE. THANK YOU, MISS STRICKLAND. YOU HAD SAID THAT THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE FEMA 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN AND THE FLOODPLAIN. SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IS THIS WITHIN THE FEMA 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN? HEY, RYAN, HE'S GOING TO BE MORE EQUIPPED TO ANSWER SOME FEMA VERSUS CITY FLOODPLAIN QUESTIONS, AS WOULD OUR DIRECTOR OF PLANNING. HE IS ALSO A CERTIFIED FLOODPLAIN MANAGER, JUST FYI. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS RYAN HUNTER WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. SO WHEN LOOKING AT FLOODPLAIN FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY, WE LOOK AT TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF FLOODPLAIN. ONE IS THE FEMA, WHICH IS SELF-EXPLANATORY. IT'S THE FLOODPLAIN DELINEATED BY FEMA'S NATIONAL DATABASE OF FLOODPLAIN MAPS. AND THE OTHER ONE IS THE 100 YEAR, FULLY DEVELOPED FLOODPLAIN, WHICH IS DETERMINED BY THE CITY ORDINANCE. IT ASSUMES FULL DEVELOPMENT OF THE ENTIRE BASIN FLOWING TO THE CREEK. AND SO IT'S USUALLY A MORE CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE. IT'S MORE SITE SITE SPECIFIC, A LITTLE MORE LOCALIZED. SO FOR THIS SPECIFIC SITE, THERE IS 100 YEAR FULLY DEVELOPED FLOODPLAIN ON THE SITE, BUT THERE IS NOT FEMA FLOODPLAIN ON THE SITE. AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THAT MORE CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE OF ASSUMING THE THE FULL BASIN WILL BE DEVELOPED AT SOME POINT IN TIME. SO ESSENTIALLY IT WASN'T IN THE FEMA FLOODPLAIN, BUT PER CITY ORDINANCE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, YOU DO A FLOOD STUDY AND YOU LOOK AT IT FROM WHERE WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM FLOW THAT WILL BE COMING DOWN ONCE EVERYTHING IN THERE IS BUILT OUT? RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. YES. SO FEMA, WHEN THEY CREATE THEIR MAPS, THEY ARE A BIT MORE HIGH LEVEL. YOU KNOW, THEY BECAUSE THEY'RE A NATIONAL DATABASE, THEY USUALLY LOOK AT SOME OF THE BIGGER CREEKS THAT HAVE A BIGGER IMPACT ON HIGHER AMOUNT OF PEOPLE. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE YOUR HONEY CREEK'S YOUR WILSON CREEK'S YOUR TRINITY RIVERS.WHEREAS THE GOAL OF DELINEATING 100 YEAR FULLY DEVELOPED IS FOR SOME OF THESE SMALLER CREEKS THAT FEMA WOULDN'T NECESSARILY DELINEATE, DELINEATE A FLOODPLAIN ON TO DETERMINE WHAT THOSE IMPACTS MIGHT BE. OKAY. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE CITY'S FLOODPLAIN VERSUS FEMA, DOES IT VARY FROM CITY TO CITY, OR IS THERE ONE BASELINE THAT EVERYONE GOES BY? I AM NOT CERTAIN WHAT THE DELINEATIONS OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WOULD BE. OKAY. AND HOW HOW MANY ACRES. SORRY. LAST QUESTION. HOW MANY ACRES IS WITHIN THE CITY'S FLOODPLAIN? SO THIS CREEK FLOWING TO THIS SITE, IT'S GOT A UPSTREAM BASIN OF ABOUT 93 ACRES. WE WE USUALLY REQUIRE THAT FLOOD STUDY TO LOOK AT THE FULLY DEVELOPED FLOODPLAIN AT AROUND 50 ACRES OR GREATER. I'M JUST ASKING HOW MUCH WITHIN THE SITE WOULD YOU ARE YOU DESIGNATING? SO UP ON THE SCREEN, THE PREDEVELOPMENT FLOODPLAIN IS THE BLUE LINE AND POST-DEVELOPMENT IS IS THE ORANGE. AND SO HOW MUCH IS THAT ACREAGE WISE? YES. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE ACREAGE IS? I DON'T, BUT WE CAN PULL THAT OR I'M SURE THAT THE APPLICANT IS AWARE. IN THAT SAME VEIN, IN
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REGARDS TO THE ORANGE AND CYAN LINE, IS THE 65 TREES WITHIN THE ORANGE, THE PROPOSED FULLY DEVELOPED FLOODPLAIN LINE OR THE EXISTING? JUST TO CLARIFY, I BELIEVE IT'S WITHIN THE EXISTING THE EXISTING THE THE BLUE LINE. SO WITHIN THE PROPOSED THERE WOULD BE LESS THAN THE 65 QUALITY TREES, ASSUMING THAT THE STUDY IS AGREED TO. 65. YES. BUT IT WOULD STILL BE STILL BE 100% YES. THANK YOU. EITHER WAY, IT'S GOING TO BE 100% OF THE TREES REMOVED IN THE FLOODPLAIN. REGARDLESS OF THE CHANGE. AND THE MAIN REASON THAT. TYPICALLY IT'S NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE TREES REMOVED FROM THE FLOODPLAIN IS FOR EROSION CONTROL AND FLOOD CONTROL AND EROSION CONTROL, FLOOD CONTROL, AS WELL AS PRESERVATION OF OUR URBAN CANOPY. WE DO SEE SOME VERY LUSH TREES WITHIN OUR FLOODPLAINS. OKAY, THAT'S WHY IT'S PART OF OUR TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE. AND THEY ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT TO REMOVE 30% OF THE TREES. IT IS THE FACT THAT WE ARE HERE FOR THAT ADDITIONAL 70%. IS THIS GOING TO BE AN IMPROVED RETENTION OR DETENTION POND? SO THEY ARE PROPOSING A DETENTION POND IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF THE FLOODPLAIN. YOU CAN YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT RIGHT THERE JUST WEST OF THE ORANGE SHAPE. YOU CAN SEE A COUPLE OF PILOT CHANNELS WITHIN THAT. THAT DETENTION BASIN IMPROVEMENT LIKE THAT. IS IT RETENTION OR DETENTION? DETENTION. AND THAT WOULD CONSOLIDATE OR SHRINK THE FOOTPRINT OF THE FLOODPLAIN. IS THAT RIGHT? IT IT LIKELY WOULD, YES. THEY THEY'RE SLOWING THE RUNOFF THAT'S COMING FROM THEIR OWN SITE AND DOWN TO PRE-PROJECT LEVELS. SO IT WOULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF OR REDUCE THE RATE THAT THE WATER IS ENTERING THAT CREEK. AND ALL THE, ALL THE TREES WOULD BE IN THAT DETENTION POND FOOTPRINT.NOT NOT ALL OF THEM, ONLY SOME WITHIN THAT. THE BLUE SHAPE DOWN AT THE THE BOTTOM WHERE IT KIND OF FANS OUT TO THE WEST THERE THE THE ORANGE SHAPE. THE DETENTION POND IS ENTIRELY OUTSIDE OF THAT. IS THERE SOME FILL ADDED TO THIS TO INCREASE ELEVATION IN SOME AREA? THEY ARE THEY ARE FILLING THE THE REST OF THE SITE. THE THE FINISHED FLOOR OF THE BUILDING IS IS SEVERAL SEVERAL FEET ABOVE THE CREEK AND THE BASE OF THE DETENTION POND. THANK YOU.
YOU HAD MENTIONED THE UPSTREAM DRAINAGE AREA THAT'S DRAINING THROUGH THIS SITE. BEING 90 ROUGHLY 90 ACRES AT ANY POINT IN TIME. DO YOU KNOW IF THIS CHANNEL WAS CUT IN WHEN THAT DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH WAS DEVELOPED? IS THAT WHERE THIS CHANNEL CAME FROM, OR WAS IT A NATURALLY OCCURRING CHANNEL? AND YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT. JUST CURIOUS IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION OR SO ON ON SITE. IT IS A NATURALLY OCCURRING CHANNEL. MOST OF THE RUNOFF COMES FROM A PIPE UNDER HIGHWAY FIVE THAT COLLECTS DRAINAGE FROM THE GOLF COURSE ON THE WEST SIDE, AND THEN THERE. THERE IS A BASIN TO THE SOUTH AS WELL THAT'S TAKING FLOW FROM THAT DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH AS WELL. HAVE YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THEIR PRELIMINARY DRAINAGE PLAN? YES, MA'AM. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS REGARDING HOW THAT COULD IMPACT ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE FURTHER EAST OF WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED? SO IT WOULDN'T IMPACT ANY PROPERTIES TO THE EAST? THE EVERYTHING GOES TO THE NORTH. THIS THE CREEKS ON THIS PROPERTY DRAIN THROUGH A PIPE UNDERNEATH MCINTYRE ROAD THAT GOES TO THE LARGER CREEK TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE. OKAY, SO REMOVAL OF THE TREES, TREES DO DECREASE PEAK FLOWS DOWNSTREAM. SO REMOVAL OF THE TREES, IT WOULD SLIGHTLY RAISE THE FLOOD PLAIN ON THOSE DOWNSTREAM PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH. AND WHAT ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL THAT SITS BEHIND THE THE LOT THAT'S NORTH OF MCINTYRE ROAD. ARE YOU REFERRING TO THAT? YES, THAT THAT'S THE CREEK THAT THIS THAT'S THE LARGER CREEK THAT THIS SMALLER CREEK ULTIMATELY DISCHARGES INTO. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? THE ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, WE WERE LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ORANGE AND THE GREEN. WHAT IS THAT? CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO US. SO I BELIEVE THE GREEN IS IS JUST THE OVERLAP BETWEEN THE THE BLUE AND THE ORANGE. OH OKAY.
YEAH. SO THE BLUE IS THE EXISTING FULLY DEVELOPED FLOODPLAIN AS IT STANDS PRIOR TO ANY DEVELOPMENT, BLUE IS PRE-PROJECT AND ORANGE WOULD BE POST-PROJECT. OKAY. WE DECIDED TO DO SOME PRIMARY COLOR LESSONS. OBVIOUSLY I NEED TO GO BACK TO KINDERGARTEN, SO. IS
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OUR APPLICANT. HERE THEY ARE. YES. THANK YOU. SAM FRANKLIN MORFIK DEVELOPMENT, 1650 WEST VIRGINIA PARKWAY, SUITE 201, MCKINNEY, TEXAS. WE'RE HERE REPRESENTING HOPEWELL DEVELOPMENT ON THIS DESIGN EXCEPTION FOR REMOVAL OF 30% OVER 30% OF THE FLOOD TREES IN FLOODPLAIN. THE THE. Y'ALL HAVE COVERED MOST OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD ANTICIPATE GETTING FROM YOU GUYS. BUT JUST TO REITERATE, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT I'M NOT OPPOSED TO AT ALL THAT THE CITY REGULATES OVER AND ABOVE AND THEIR OWN FLOODPLAIN LIMITS. BUT THE IT'S THE DOWNSTREAM EFFECTS, NOT LITERALLY, BUT THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE TO THEN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE MITIGATION OF ADDITIONAL TREES, THE 30% TREES IS IS SOMETHING THAT'S HARD TO ACCOUNT FOR IN DUE DILIGENCE. SO ONCE YOU GO INTO SITE PLAN, YOU GET A COUPLE ROUNDS COMMENTS FROM THE CITY. YOU REALIZE YOU GOT TO SUBMIT A FLOOD STUDY. THEY REGULATE OVER AND ABOVE WHAT FEMA HAS. SO WHEN YOU WHEN THE THE LIMITS OF THE FLOODPLAIN EXPAND, THEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO POSSIBLY NOT BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE FULL SITE BECAUSE OF THE TREE REMOVAL PROCESS THAT THE CITY HAS. AND SO THAT'S REALLY MY PROBLEM WITH THE ORDINANCE ITSELF. NOW, LOOKING AT THE LIMITS, ONCE WE GET THROUGH OUR FLOOD STUDY AND THE FULLY DEVELOPED FLOW THERE ALONG THE EASTERN BOUNDARY, IT'S ALL CONTAINED WITHIN AN ENCORE EASEMENT. AND SO IF IF ENCORE EVER DECIDED TO MAINTAIN THAT EASEMENT AREA, MOST OF THE QUALITY TREES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE REMOVED EITHER WAY. SO IT JUST COMES DOWN TO A BUSINESS DECISION FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY TO WHERE DO WE WANT TO HAVE HOPEWELL DEVELOPER DEVELOPMENT TRY TO MITIGATE FOR THESE TREES AND POTENTIALLY LOSE AD VALOREM TAX VALUE TO THE CITY IN DOING SO? OR DO WE WANT TO TRY AND PROTECT THESE QUALITY TREES IN AN AREA THAT'S LARGELY INDUSTRIAL? WE'VE GOT INDUSTRIAL TO THE EAST, WE'VE GOT INDUSTRIAL TO THE NORTH, AND IF WE'RE GOING TO IF THE POSSIBILITY OF LOSING THESE TREES IN THE FUTURE IS THERE EITHER WAY, IS IT WORTH THE LOSS OF AD VALOREM TAX VALUE TO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY? AND I ALSO HAVE JOHN TEDESCO WITH ME WITH KIMLEY-HORN. HE CAN ANSWER ANY OF THE MORE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE IN REGARDS TO SAM. WHY CAN'T YOU LEAVE THE TREES ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE DRAINAGE, THE POND? WHY CAN'T YOU LEAVE THE TREES ON THE EAST SIDE IN THE ENCORE? YEAH. WHY CAN'T YOU JUST LEAVE THEM? JOHN. YEAH. JOHN TEDESCO WITH KIMLEY-HORN ASSOCIATES, 260 EAST DAVIS STREET, SUITE 100, MCKINNEY, TEXAS, 75069.MR. COMMISSIONER, THAT THAT THAT QUESTION WAS REGARDING TO THE EXISTING TREES TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPOSED DETENTION POND. WHY CAN WE NOT KEEP THOSE, YOU KNOW, MORE OR LESS IN THE ORANGE WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT FOR NOW. IS THAT THE QUESTION? SO IN ORDER FOR US TO OUTFALL OUR WATER, THE, THE BASIN, THAT IS WE'RE CALLING UPSTREAM THAT MR. HUNTER REFERRED TO, WE'RE TRYING TO MATCH THAT EXISTING CHANNEL THAT'S OUT THERE TODAY. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE SURE THERE'S DRAINAGE AS FAR UP AS WE CAN TO GET DOWN TO THE MCINTYRE HEADWALL. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GRADING IN A CHANNEL AND TRYING TO REALLY JUST CLEAN IT UP FOR THAT LACK OF A BETTER WAY OF SAYING IT TODAY, IT'S REALLY JUST OVERGROWN WITH BRUSH AND SHRUBS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE SURE A WE'RE GETTING POSITIVE DRAINAGE AND NOT OVERTOPPING THE MCINTYRE HEADWALL THAT'S OVER THERE, AND THEN B ENSURING THAT WE'RE STAYING WITHIN CERTAIN LIMITS OF, OF WHAT WE CAN AND NOT NOT DISTURB. SO I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS IN ORDER FOR US TO OUTFALL OUR WATER, WE'RE HAVING THIS AREA ON THE EAST SIDE AND WE'RE TRYING TO MATCH THAT EXISTING CONDITION THROUGH THERE. SO YOU'RE HAVING TO DO SOME FILL ON THE EAST SIDE? NO, SIR. NO, NO FILL, JUST REGRADING OF THE EXISTING DRAINAGE CHANNEL FOR POSITIVE CONVEYANCE. EXACTLY. YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. SO DEEPENING IT THEN. IS THAT OR JUST CLEANING IT UP OR. SOME OF BOTH I APOLOGIZE, I HAVE A SICK DOG SO I HAVEN'T REALLY SLEPT TOO MUCH, SO I DON'T REALLY REMEMBER RIGHT NOW HOW MUCH IT'S REALLY GRADING. IF YOU WOULD, I COULD HAVE MY LAPTOP UP AND I COULD REALLY DETERMINE IT. BUT IF I HAD TO REMEMBER AS BEST I CAN ON RECORD, THE HEADWATER MCINTYRE IS AT ELEVATION 100. THE HEADWALL IS GRADING AT LIKE A 1% SLOPE TODAY. IT'S IT'S VARIABLE RIGHT? IT'S REALLY NOT DEFINED. SO WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT AS MINIMAL AS POSSIBLE WHILE ALSO ENSURING THERE'S POSITIVE OUTFALL. I DO WANT TO JUST NOT TO REPORT ANYTHING. MR. HUNTER HAS PREVIOUSLY SAID THE FLOOD STUDY WAS RESUBMITTED ACTUALLY ABOUT TWO HOURS AGO. OUR TEAM GOT COMMENTS ON MONDAY FROM THE THIRD PARTY REVIEWER. THERE WAS NO COMMENTS REGARDING ANYTHING
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THAT'S PROPOSED OR SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE FOR THE FLOODPLAIN OR PROPOSED FLOODPLAIN. THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT MAYBE POTENTIALLY OVERTOPPING MCINTYRE. WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THAT. THAT WAS ONE OF THE COMMENTS FROM THIRD PARTY REVIEWER. WE LOOKED AT IT. WE ENSURED THAT THERE'S TWO THINGS NOT HAPPENING OVERTOPPING MCINTYRE. THAT CULVERT IS SIZED BASED ON WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY WITH OUR FLOWS. AND THEN TWO, NOT IMPOSING OR DISTURBING ANYTHING DOWNSTREAM OR UPSTREAM WHEN IT COMES TO NEIGHBORS. THAT ALSO LOOKS AT THE EAST SIDE TO THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IT WAS JUST BUILT. SO THAT FLOOD STUDY, FINGERS CROSSED, SHOULD BE APPROVED THIS NEXT TIME, I BELIEVE, DON'T QUOTE ME, THERE'S LIKE 4 OR 5 COMMENTS LEFT AND THEY WERE REALLY JUST ADMINISTRATIVE AND THERE'S NO PLANS TO CHANGE THE SIZE OF THE CULVERT THAT'S UNDER MCINTYRE TODAY. WITH ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO MCINTYRE IN THE FUTURE. MAYBE THAT'S A RYAN QUESTION, BUT I'D PROBABLY DEFER THAT TO RYAN. BUT RIGHT NOW OUR STUDY IS SHOWING THERE'S NO OVERTOPPING. WE'RE NOT IMPROVING OR DISTURBING ANYTHING DOWNSTREAM OR UPSTREAM RIGHT NOW WITH OUR IMPROVEMENTS. SAM, YOU MENTIONED THE FACT THAT IT'S WITHIN AN EASEMENT TODAY. HAS THERE BEEN ANY DIALOG WITH ENCORE IN REGARDS TO THIS DRAINAGE AREA BEING WITHIN THEIR EASEMENT? THERE IS NOT HAD ANY DISCUSSION WITH THEM YET. YEAH. NOT NOT NECESSARILY TO HEY, THERE'S THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SOME BRUSH THAT YOU NEED TO CLEAN UP. WE HAVE SENT IN IN FOR REVIEW OUR ABANDONMENT AND ENCROACHMENT INTO THEIR DRAINAGE EASEMENT. PRELIMINARILY THEY'VE ACCEPTED IT. THEY HAVE NO COMMENTS. I SENT IN THE FEES AND DID ALL THE CHECKLISTS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. SO I'M JUST WAITING TO GET THE SIGN AUTHORIZATION TO GO IN THERE AND PERFORM THAT ACT. BUT THEY'RE AWARE THAT THE DRAINAGE FEATURE WILL BE WITHIN THEIR EASEMENT. YES, SIR. THEY ARE. MR. TEDESCO. 50 ZERO ZERO ZERO FOOT VIEW. COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE PURPOSE OF THE ORDINANCE AND HOW IT PERTAINS TO THE TREES IN GENERAL? KIND OF LIKE MAYBE JUST SO PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND THE INTENT BEHIND IT. YEAH, I'LL BE VERY FRANK. YOU KNOW, I'M, YOU KNOW, EIGHT AND A HALF YEARS INTO MY CAREER. SO I WASN'T HERE WHEN THE ORDINANCE WAS CREATED. MY BEST INTERPRETATION OF THE ORDINANCE IS REALLY MEANT FOR MAJOR STREAMS, MAJOR CREEKS. RIGHT. WHEN YOU HAVE HONEY CREEK, TRINITY RIVER, THOSE MAJOR STREAMS AND TRIBUTARIES, LIKE FLOWING THROUGH THE ORDINANCE, I THINK IS IS MEANT TO ENCOMPASS THOSE NOT TO DISTURB THAT HAVE NICE SIDEWALKS, OPEN SPACES IN MY IN MY OPINION, UNFORTUNATELY. RIGHT. THERE'S NO FEMA FLOODPLAIN. SO WE HAD TO DELINEATE SOMETHING HERE. WE HAD TO SET UP BASED ON THE CITY'S ORDINANCE. THE GENERAL RULE OF THUMB FOR THE CITY ORDINANCE IS ABOUT 50 ACRES. SO THAT BASIN WAS 93 ACRES OR WHATEVER IT WAS, AND WE HAD TO DELINEATE IT HERE. I DON'T THINK THAT THE REAL MEAT OF THE ORDINANCE IS MEANT TO IMPACT SOMETHING LIKE THIS. IN MY PERSONAL OPINION. I THINK IT'S THOSE MAJOR CREEKS AND STREAMS THAT ARE REALLY IT'S MEANT FOR.AND THEN AS FAR AS EXCUSE ME, AS FAR AS THE AMOUNT OF ACREAGE, I MEAN, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S A LARGE AMOUNT AT ALL. SO I UNDERSTAND IT'S 100% OF THE TREES, BUT IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, 5% OF 1000 YARDS VERSUS 100% OF, YOU KNOW, TWO ACRES. YEAH. THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT THE SIZE IS, AND I DON'T THINK WE LABELED IT PROPERLY. SO I'LL TAKE THE BLAME THERE. THE PROPOSED ORANGE, WHICH DOES OVERLAP WITH THE GREEN, IS 16,500FT■!S. SO UNDER A HALF AC, LESS THAN A HALF ACRE, 0.37 ACRES, TO BE EXACT, THE EXISTING DELINEATED FOR THE CITY EFFECTIVE FLOODPLAIN. FULLY DEVELOPED FLOODPLAIN IS 2000 25,500FT■!S, ABOUT 0.5 ACR.
OKAY, OVER 14.48%. IS THERE ANY PROPOSED MITIGATION FOR REMOVAL OF THE TREES OR OFFSET? YES, THERE IS. RIGHT NOW IN THE PACKET. I THINK THE TABLE MATH IS HARD. SO I THINK WE MESSED UP THE MATH. BUT RIGHT NOW, BASED ON THE TREE PRESERVATION STAFF MEMBER UPDATING OUR MATH, IT IS $14,700 INTO THE MITIGATION FUND THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD BE PAYING INTO FOR TOTAL MITIGATION ON THE SITE, AND THAT'S ASSUMING 100% APPROVED THROUGH THE VARIANCE PROCESS, NOT FOR THE 30%. CORRECT? CORRECT. 100%. YES. SO BECAUSE OF GRADING, YOU CAN'T SAVE ANY OF THE TREES IN THE BLUE ZONE EITHER. THE BLUE ZONE IS THE EXISTING CITY EFFECTIVE DELINEATED FLOODPLAIN. IN ORDER FOR US TO GRADE IN THE FIRE LANES, THE BUILDINGS TO BRING IT UP TO GRADE, TO GET AS MUCH, YOU KNOW, BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THERE AS POSSIBLE.
WE HAVE TRUST ME, I HAVE MANY CAD FILES ON MY LAPTOP TO ITERATIVE DESIGNS OF THE POND AND TRY TO SHRINK IT AND GET IT AS TIGHT AS I CAN. THAT'S THAT'S AS BEST AS WE CAN TRY TO GET IT RIGHT NOW, MR. COMMISSIONER. SO YOU CAN'T SAVE ANY IN THE BLUE AT ALL? NOT I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN DRAW ON THIS, BUT YEAH, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS LIMIT RIGHT IN HERE IS
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GOING TO BE TOUGH, RIGHT? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THIS HEADWALL IN THERE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GRADE IN THOSE THOSE FEATURE LINES THAT ARE GOING TO COME IN AND TIE IN. THAT'S THAT'S AS TIGHT AS WE CAN GET IT RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. AND I THINK THERE'S AN EXHIBIT IN HERE TOO I MEAN IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY THAT. I DON'T KNOW, IS THIS AREA IN HERE THERE'S NOT TOO MANY TREES I WANT TO SAY THERE'S LIKE MAYBE 3 OR 4. SO I GUESS I'D LIKE TO BACK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT. AND MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION OR. BUT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE EXISTING WATER FLOW THROUGH THIS, THIS DRAINAGE AREA WHERE THE CURRENT TREES ARE AND GOING FROM, IF I HEARD IT RIGHT, GOING FROM, FROM EAST, FROM EAST TO WEST. NO, FROM WEST TO EAST, UNDER THE ROAD FROM THE GOLF COURSE AND THEN ACROSS ACROSS THIS EXISTING FLOODPLAIN WHERE THE TREES ARE. AND THEN TURNING ON THE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, TURNING TO THE NORTH, GOING UNDER MCINTYRE. IS THAT CORRECT? SO THE OVERALL BASIN, CAN YOU FLIP TO THE AERIAL REAL QUICK? BECAUSE I THINK THAT MIGHT HELP DESCRIBE IT BECAUSE IT'S ZOOMED OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE. DOES THAT HELP. YEAH. THAT DOES THAT DOES. SO THERE'S AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL SITE THAT'S DOWN HERE. AND I DON'T HAVE THE DRAINAGE AREA MAP IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IF YOU WILL ENTERTAIN ME, THERE'S SOME AREA THAT COMES IN THROUGH HERE THAT IS OFF SITE AND IS FLOWING INTO OUR PROPERTY. OKAY. THERE IS A BASIN THAT COMES INTO THE INTO THE, INTO THE SYSTEM OVER HERE FROM THE GOLF COURSE. AND THEN THERE'S OUR SITE ON HERE.SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE LOOKED AT AREAS DRAINAGE BASIN THAT IS LARGER THAN 50 ACRES DELINEATING THAT WATER ALONG WITH OUR PROPOSED FLOWS TO DELINEATE A FLOODPLAIN LIMIT THAT YOU SAW IN THE PREVIOUS FLOODPLAIN. THE PREVIOUS SLIDE THAT MORE OR LESS DELINEATES IT OVER THERE. SO WITH THE INSTALLATION OF. THE WAREHOUSES, THE WAREHOUSE, WHAT WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT, THAT WATER THAT'S CURRENTLY FLOWING ACROSS THE PROPERTY AND THEN HEADED HEADED NORTH. COULD YOU GO TO THE PREVIOUS SITE PLAN SLIDE. SO THANK YOU. THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT SYSTEMS THAT ARE COMING IN HERE. HIGHWAY FIVE IS IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN PUT ON HOLD FROM FROM WHAT THE CITY HAS TOLD US. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS IMPROVING AS MUCH AS WE CAN TODAY WITH A STORM LINE, THREE BY THREE BOX CULVERT SITTING IN THROUGH HERE, CHANGING PIPE SIZE TO BE A 4X4 RIGHT THERE AND THEN OUT FALLING AND DETAINING THAT WATER INTO OUR POND SO THAT WATER IS GOING TO BE DETAINED, HELD TO EXISTING FLOWS BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING ON SITE FLOWS, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR SITE AND THEN OUTFALL, YOU KNOW, DOWN HERE INTO THE CREEK, THERE IS A HEADWALL DOWN HERE THAT WE'RE TAKING ALL THAT FLOW THAT FLOWS OFF THIS SOUTHWEST COMMERCIAL SITE. THAT'S TO THE SOUTHWEST AND THAT BIG BASIN THAT I TALKED ABOUT INTO A NINE BY FIVE BOX CULVERT, EIGHT BY FIVE BOX CULVERT. I DON'T REMEMBER, INTO THE SITE DOWN AND AROUND INTO THE SIDE, EAST SIDE HERE AND THEN OUT FLOWING BACK THROUGH HERE. SO THAT LINE RIGHT HERE IS, YOU KNOW, TAKING ALL THAT FLOW OUT, FALLING IT INTO THE EXISTING SYSTEM THAT'S OVER THERE TODAY. AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, YOU KNOW, PUT IT BACK INTO THE SAME PLACE AND GET IT TO WHERE IT'S GOING, DETAINING THAT WATER THAT WE HAVE TO TO GET TO THE FLOWS THAT ARE THERE TODAY, BACK TO THE SAME FLOWS WHEN WE OUTFALL WITH ALL OUR WATER. GOT IT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. AND IS THERE ANY DRAINAGE EASEMENT THERE FOR THAT TODAY? THE AT THE SOUTHERN END I SEE THERE'S A VARIABLE DRAINAGE EASEMENT BEING PROPOSED, BUT IS THERE AN EXISTING ONE TODAY OR. NO. BASED ON KIMLEY-HORN DRAWINGS AND REVIEWS. NO, SIR. THERE'S NO EXISTING DRAINAGE EASEMENT TO THE SOUTH. THE. I THINK IT'S 93 ACRES, 92 ACRES OR WHATEVER IT IS. RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO EXISTING EASEMENT. ON THE TREE PRESERVATION PLAN. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE PRESERVING TREES EAST OF THE FLOODPLAIN. IS THAT ACCURATE? YES, SIR. THE TREES WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN AREA DUE TO THE REGRADING OF THE CHANNEL.
BUT WHAT'S EAST OF THERE IS BEING PRESERVED? YES. FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY OF SAYING THE EAST OF THE ORANGE LINE THROUGH HERE. YES WE ARE. WE'RE GRADING TO EXISTING AS MUCH AS QUICKLY AS WE PHYSICALLY CAN. SO WE'RE PRESERVING THOSE TREES IN THAT EASEMENT. ALONG WITH, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS WE CAN DOWN TO THE SOUTH. THERE'S SOME EXISTING TREES DOWN HERE. SOUTHEAST CORNER I SEE. CORRECT. YEAH. WHAT WOULD THE IMPACT BE TO THE THE PLAN IF YOU HAD TO HOLD TO THE 30%? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN? SO REALISTICALLY I'M JUST GOING TO DRAW A LINE IN THE SAND, YOU KNOW, MORE OR LESS. RIGHT. THAT'S WEST OF THE
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EXISTING FLOODPLAIN. LET'S JUST PRETEND THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN FIT A POND IN HERE WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF FLOW AND THE SIZE AND THE ACREAGE THAT WE'D HAVE TO THAT WOULD ALSO ASSUME THAT WE CAN OUTFALL SOMEWHERE HERE AND HAVE POSITIVE DRAINAGE TO GET BACK TO THIS OUTFALL ON MCINTYRE, CUTTING OFF, CALL IT ANOTHER HALF AN ACRE, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE BUILDING, PROBABLY MORE BECAUSE WE'D HAVE TO MOVE THE ENTIRE TRUCK DOCK.WE'D, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY HAVE A FIRE LANE THROUGH THERE. WE'D HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS MAINTENANCE, ACCESS PATH THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THROUGH HERE. SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY ROUGHLY THIS LIMIT OF THE BUILDING, THE DRIVEWAY WOULD HAVE TO GET RELOCATED. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ENOUGH SPACING THROUGH THERE. THERE'D BE A SUBSTANTIAL REDESIGN. I'D LIKE TO TAKE SOME PRIDE IN. YOU KNOW, I TRY TO TAKE A COUPLE STABS AT THIS. I TRY TO REDO THE DETENTION POND AS MUCH AS I COULD. I SPENT MANY LATE NIGHTS TRYING TO REGRADE IT AND TRY TO TIE IN AS BEST AS I CAN, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS JUST KIND OF THE OUTCOME THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE WITH THIS. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A CHAIR. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY JUST ONE POINT. SO HE DID MENTION THAT THERE WOULD BE MITIGATION FEES. SO IF THIS WAS APPROVED LATER AND THEY ARE ABLE TO REMOVE THOSE TREES, THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL MITIGATION FEES THAT ARE GOING TO BE ASSESSED ON THE SITE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE THAT THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD HAPPEN BASED OFF OF OUR TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, SO THE 14,000 COULD BE COULD BE MORE AND THAT WOULD BE AT THEIR COST.
CORRECT? CORRECT. YES. THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY THAT MITIGATION FEE. OKAY. THANK YOU.
THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. SO IF YOU'RE HERE AND YOU'D LIKE TO WEIGH IN, COULD YOU KINDLY APPROACH AT THIS TIME? OKAY. SEEING AS THERE'S NO ONE COMING FORWARD, IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING THE PUBLIC HEARING? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AND CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LEBOW TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM. A SECOND AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BUCKNER. OKAY.
PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. OKAY. AND THAT MOTION PASSES 7 TO 0. AND THIS WILL ONLY BE HEARD BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING. IT WILL NOT HAVE TO GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit Request for Auto, Motorcycle, Truck, or Boat, Rental or Sales (DentRX USA), Located at Southeast Corner of Powerhouse Street and Mercury Circle]
AGENDA IS ITEM 250008 SUP2. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACT ON A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR AUTO, MOTORCYCLE, TRUCK OR BOAT RENTAL OR SALES. DENT RX USA LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF POWERHOUSE STREET AND MERCURY CIRCLE. MR. BENNETT YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS WOODARD. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSION JAKE BENNETT, PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. SO THIS 1ST MAY LOOK A LITTLE BIT FAMILIAR TO YOU.THIS ONE WAS HEARD AT THE PREVIOUS PNC MEETING, SO HOWEVER, THE NOTIFICATION SIGNS WERE NOT PLACED ON THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE CORRECT TIME FRAME BEFORE IT WAS PRESENTED LAST.
PNC, WHICH IS THE REASON WHY IT'S BACK IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING. SO IT WILL REQUIRE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN ANOTHER VOTE BEFORE IT MOVES ON TO CITY COUNCIL. BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS REMAINING THE SAME. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AGAIN, JUST AS A REFRESHER, I BELIEVE IT WAS 7 TO 0 THAT THE THE COMMISSION VOTED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL AT THE LAST PNC MEETING. SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR. BENNETT. IS OUR APPLICANT HERE? I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT OR NOT. YES THEY ARE.
COULD YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE? HELLO, COMMISSION. MY NAME IS CHRIS ALAVERDI, REPRESENTING DNR. COULD YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS ALSO, PLEASE? 414 POWERHOUSE STREET, MCKINNEY, TEXAS. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SORRY TO HAVE YOU UP.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED
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ATTACHED TO IT. SO IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK REGARDING THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD. HELLO, MY NAME IS ROBERT LEDOUX. I OWN. CAN YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR US? 417 POWERHOUSE AND ALSO I OWN 413 POWERHOUSE ACROSS FROM THE WESTER. I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY NOTIFICATION ON THE PRIOR BECAUSE IT WASN'T POSTED, BUT I DID RECEIVE IT.NOW THAT IT WAS POSTED. I OWN LOTS 417 AND 413 DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE REQUESTED PERMITTED USE. SO THE BUILDING IN WHITE AND THEN THE SMALL ONES ON THE LEFT. THESE PROPERTIES ARE MOSTLY INDUSTRIAL WITH LIMITED PARKING, NOT FULL RETAIL PARKING. I DID LEAVE THE DID READ THE LETTER OF INTENT AND CAME HERE TO VOICE MY CONCERN ON THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. MY MAIN CONCERN IS THE BUSINESS USING THE STREET PARKING TO STORE CARS FOR SALE FOR RENT. AFTER THE WAREHOUSE IS FULL WITH THE REQUESTED FOUR CARS. AND HOW TO AVOID THIS, I'D LIKE TO KINDLY REMIND EVERYBODY BEFORE COVID, THE DMV ON POWERHOUSE DID NOT HAVE A RESERVATION SYSTEM AND THERE WAS LONG LINES OUT THE DOOR. THIS RESULTED IN PARKING ALL THE WAY DOWN THE STREET, AND THE ENTIRE STREET WAS FULL OF DMV PARKING, AND YOU JUST COULDN'T PARK. AND UNFORTUNATELY, PEOPLE ALSO PARKED IN THE BUSINESS PARKING LOTS. WITH THE NEW RESERVATION SYSTEM WITH THE DMV, WE FINALLY HAVE DECENT PARKING ON THE STREET AND I HOPE THIS CAN CONTINUE. WHEN PARKING IS FULL ON THAT STREET, IT'S A DEAD END.
THERE'S NOWHERE TO GO SINCE IT'S A DEAD END OFF HIGHWAY FIVE. I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD? HI, MY NAME IS FAYE. I'M THE LANDLORD OF THIS PROPERTY. SO THE REASON I'M HERE TONIGHT, KINDLY STATE YOUR ADDRESS AS. YES. 414 POWERHOUSE STREET, MCKINNEY, TEXAS 75071. SO, BASED ON WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN JUST SAID, IT IS ACCURATE. AFTER THE COVID, WE WERE ACTUALLY IN THAT TIME FRAME. WE'RE BUILDING THE WAREHOUSES IN OUR PROPERTY. AND DURING OUR CONSTRUCTION, THERE WOULD BE PEOPLE COMING AND PARKING IN OUR PARKING SPOTS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE UNDERSTOOD, YOU KNOW. BUT TO HIS POINT, AS FAR AS THAT BUSINESS PARK, THAT POWERHOUSE BUSINESS PARK, IT IS ALL INDUSTRIAL. IT IS ALL AUTOMOTIVE. I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THESE BUILDINGS ARE. THERE'S A GLASS SHOP THERE. THERE ARE SOME TENANTS THERE.
SO WITH THAT SAID, AND THEN THERE'S A HUGE DEALERSHIP AT THE END OF THE CUL DE SAC. SO THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA. IT IS A DEAD END STREET AT POWERHOUSE. SO A COUPLE OF POINTS FROM ME IS THAT, NUMBER ONE, ALL OF US AS BUSINESS OWNERS ARE BEING CHALLENGED BY THE PARKING ISSUE IN THAT BUSINESS PARK, AND WE TRY TO MAKE IT WORK. WE ALL WORK TOGETHER. WE'RE BEING CORDIAL TO EACH OTHER AND WE MAKE IT WORK. PFG, THAT IS OUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR. THEY HAVE GRACIOUSLY ALLOWED US TO USE SOME OF THEIR NEW PARKING SPOT TO THE WEST. WITHIN THAT RADIUS, THAT BLUE LINE AS JUST A COURTESY. SO AGAIN, THE POINT IS THAT WE ALL WORK TOGETHER. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, MY POINT IS, JUST LIKE MR. ROBB, WE'RE ALL SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. WE'RE TRYING TO SURVIVE. MY HUSBAND AND I OWN THE BUILDINGS AND IT'S OUR RETIREMENT BASICALLY FUND. SO IF THEY'RE NOT LEAST, YOU KNOW, IT'S SO THE THE PERSON THAT'S REQUESTED THAT SUBMITTED THIS REQUEST IS OUR TENANT, AND HE IS REQUESTING THAT PERMISSION SO THAT HE CAN ADD THIS SALE. AND IT'S A 5000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT HE'S IN AND HE CAN EASILY FIT, I DON'T KNOW, AT LEAST PROBABLY 50 CARS, 40 CARS IN THERE. AND THEY ARE GOING TO WANT TO PARK THESE CARS INSIDE. AND THEY'RE A VERY SMALL BUSINESS. THEY MAY END UP WITH MAYBE 4 OR 5 CARS AT ANY GIVEN TIME. AND WITH THE MARKET AND THE ECONOMY RIGHT NOW, I DON'T KNOW. AGAIN, THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO SURVIVE. THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO ADD TO THIS BUSINESS, AND WE'RE TRYING TO SURVIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT HE CAN STAY PUT AND HE CAN DO HIS BUSINESS. SO I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE THOSE POINTS. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES.
DID YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY PARKING ON THE STREET ON POWERHOUSE? NOW? WE'RE NOT.
BUT EVERYBODY THAT OPERATES OFF OF IN THAT BUSINESS, POWERHOUSE PARK IS UTILIZING THE STREET TO PARK, BUT YOUR PROPERTY ISN'T NEEDING THE STREET. PROPERTY IS NOT USING THAT. NO. AND I THINK
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THAT I KNOW IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE BUSINESS OWNER, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO UTILIZE FOUR SPACES OR FOUR CARS FOR SALE. YES. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. THEY SAID ANYWHERE FROM LIKE 3 TO 5 CARS IS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. AND THEY'LL BE OUTSIDE, BUT THEY'LL BE IN THE PARKING SPACES THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE. YES. YES. OR AND OR THEY'LL BE ALSO STORING THEM INSIDE AS NEEDED BECAUSE THEIR BUILDING IS 5000 SQUARE FOOT AND THERE'S NOTHING IN THEIR BUILDING RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE A DENT SHOP AND THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY HAIL. SO THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GROW THEIR BUSINESS HOWEVER WAY THEY CAN, YOU KNOW. SO SO THE PEOPLE WAITING TO BE SERVED WITH THE PAINTLESS DENT LISTS ARE OUTSIDE IN THE PARKING SPACES ALSO. YES, THEY HAVE A DEDICATED EIGHT PARKING SPACES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. THIS IS THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF THERE IS ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO WEIGH IN. KINDLY APPROACH. OKAY. SEEING AS THERE'S NONE. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? SURE. THE THE SUP. I KNOW IT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THERE WAS NO GOING TO BE NO OUTSIDE STORAGE. DID IT ADDRESS STREET PARKING AS WELL OR. YEAH. SO WITH THE EXPANSION OF THE BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, THE SUP IS REALLY JUST FOR THE AUTOMOTIVE SALES. EVERYTHING ELSE IS ALREADY GRANDFATHERED IN EXISTING WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO THE AUTOMOTIVE SALES. IF YOU JUST SEE IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF THIS, THE BUILDING THAT'S ON THE FAR SOUTHWEST THERE FOR SPACES THERE. THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO THEIR STORE. THOSE, THOSE THOSE VEHICLES THAT ARE FOR SALE. SO NOTHING IS ACTUALLY BEING IMPACTED OUTSIDE. I KNOW A LOT OF THE BUILDINGS AND A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT AROUND THIS AREA MAY BE GRANDFATHERED IN AND MAYBE DIDN'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SAME REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE UDC TODAY FOR THE PARKING RATIOS. WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT COMING UP ON ANOTHER CASE LATER ON THIS EVENING. SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THIS, THIS AREA. OKAY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT IT IS A PUBLIC STREET. SO PEOPLE UNLESS THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT DECIDES TO REGULATE THE PARKING PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO PARK, HOWEVER, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO STORE VEHICLES THAT ARE FOR SALE WITHIN PUBLIC PARKING. SO THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE THE REQUIRED SPACES INSIDE THE BUILDING. OKAY. AND THE WAY IT WAS SUBMITTED, THEY HAVE FOUR SPACES INSIDE THE 5000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WHERE THEY WOULD BE STORING. YEP, ALL FULLY INSIDE. THEY'RE NOT IMPACTING ANYTHING ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. IF THEY HAPPEN TO GO AND NEED ADDITIONAL PARKING AND THEY PARKED OUTSIDE, WHAT WOULD BE THE THAT WOULD BE KIND OF COMPLETE ALL KIND OF DEFER TO THE APPLICANT AS FAR AS YOU KNOW IT, IT'S KIND OF IF THEY GET CAUGHT BY OUR CODE CODE DEPARTMENT AS WELL. BUT A LOT OF THESE VEHICLES, A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE MORE FOR LIKE SCREENING FOR VEHICLES THAT ARE UNDER REPAIR. THESE ARE VEHICLES THAT ARE FOR SALE. I'M NOT REALLY SURE IF WE REALLY HAVE ANY REQUIREMENTS TOWARDS THAT. I DO KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES TO EXPAND THE PARKING WITHIN THE SITE ALREADY, TO REDUCE SOME OF THE IMPACTS ON THE ON THE STREET PARKING. AGAIN, LIKE KATE SAID, BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC STREET, THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO GO AND PARK THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU.
JAKE, WILL YOU EXCUSE ME? WHERE DO THE EMPLOYEES PARK THE EMPLOYEES? I'LL DEFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT. OKAY. YEAH. AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, THE SITE MEETS THE MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. BASED ON THE USE. BASED OFF OF THE USE? YES. AND THE ADDITION OF THIS USE. YES. AND THE ADDITION. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR JAKE? THANK YOU JAKE. THANK YOU. DO WE NEED TO HAVE THE APPLICANT COME BACK UP? YES.
THANK CAITLIN TOOK CARE OF IT. OKAY. VERY GOOD. DO WE HAVE A MOTION REGARDING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THIS ITEM OR ANY DISCUSSION PRIOR? I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CRAIG TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WATLEY. KILEY, CAST YOUR VOTES.
OKAY. THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, AND IT WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit Request for Passenger Vehicle Fuel Sales (7-Eleven), Located on the Southwest Corner of Bloomdale Road and North Central Expressway (US Highway 75)]
FOR FINAL ACTION AT THE NOVEMBER 4TH MEETING. OKAY. NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM[00:45:08]
2500092. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACT ON A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR PASSENGER VEHICLE FUEL SALES 711. LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF BLOOMDALE ROAD AND NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, US HIGHWAY 75. YOU'RE BACK HERE AGAIN? YES.THANK YOU AGAIN. SO THIS IS A PROPOSED SITE FOR A GAS STATION AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF 75 AND BLOOMDALE. THE PROPOSED GAS STATION IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER, AND IS SURROUNDED BY RIGHTS OF WAY AND OTHER COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES. THE NEAREST SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED OVER 2000FT TO THE WEST, AND ARE BUFFERED BY MULTIPLE DEVELOPMENTS FROM THIS PROPERTY. THE NEAREST GAS STATIONS ON THE SOUTHBOUND SIDE OF US 75 ARE OVER A MILE AND A HALF TO THE SOUTH, AND OVER SEVEN AND A HALF MILES TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND THERE ARE NO EXISTING GAS STATIONS TO THE EAST OR WEST ALONG BLOOMDALE.
STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE PROPOSED GAS STATION SHOULD NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT ANY OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, AND SHOULD BENEFIT THE SURROUNDING USES. AS SUCH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED AND I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU JAKE. DID YOU SAY THE CLOSEST FUEL STATION TO THE NORTH WAS SEVEN? IT'S ABOUT SEVEN AND A HALF MILES. I BELIEVE. IT'S ALL THE WAY UP IN ANNA. FLYING. FLYING J THAT'S UP THERE. YEAH, WELL, THAT'S ON THE SOUTH BOUND. SO THERE ARE OTHERS THAT ARE ON THE THE NORTHBOUND LANES OF 75. BUT COMING DOWN THERE'S KIND OF THAT BIG GAP THERE BETWEEN ANNA AND THEN DOWN AT 380, THE CLOSEST ONE TO THE SOUTH. OKAY. I'M WITH YOU NOW. YEAH. IS OUR APPLICANT HERE? I BELIEVE SO, YEAH. KINDLY STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE. WAYLON LODGE NO. THREE 236 BRYN MAWR DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS. YEAH. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT HERE, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING TO DEVELOP THIS ENTIRE CORNER. THIS IS KIND OF THE FIRST PIECE OF THE PROCESS TO TO GET US KICKED OFF, TO BRING UTILITIES THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT. AND WE FEEL IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S A HIGHLY VEHICULAR CORNER, YOU KNOW, 75 IT'S 100,000 CARS PLUS. AND IT MAKES, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF SENSE. AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DEMAND FOR FOR FUEL, YOU KNOW, ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MAY HAVE. SO Y'ALL Y'ALL OWN THE TRACK. THAT'S TO THE IMMEDIATE SOUTH.
IF THE ACCESS EASEMENT IS GOING TO BE TO BE THROUGH IS THAT CORRECT. THE TRACK IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH OF THIS PROPOSED SITE? YES. WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? I WAS JUST VERIFYING THAT Y'ALL OWN THAT TRACK, THAT THAT ACCESS EASEMENT IS GOING TO CORRECT. THAT WOULD BE ALSO PART OF IT. YEAH. YES. AND WE'VE YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING TO SOME RESTAURANT USER TYPE STUFF FOR FOR THAT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MISTER LOGANO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN REGARDING THIS ITEM, KINDLY COME FORWARD. OH YOU'RE REPRESENTATIVE FROM SEVEN OKAY.
KINDLY STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR US, PLEASE. HI. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS STEPHANIE MAKHANI. 10755 SAND HILL ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS 75238 I'M JUST HERE AS A CIVIL CONSULTANT FOR 7-ELEVEN WITH THE DIMENSION GROUP. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE SITE OR SITE PLAN, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MARTONE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WEIGH IN ON THIS ITEM? I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CRAIG TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONRAD. CRAIG, WOULD YOU MIND? SORRY. KINDLY CAST YOUR VOTES. EXCUSE ME. OKAY. THE VOTE CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY, AND THE
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RECOMMENDATION OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION AT THE NOVEMBER 18TH, 2025 MEETING. NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. ITEM[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Zone the Subject Property to "I1" - Light Industrial District, Located Approximately 265 Feet North of Old Mill Road and on the East Side of FM 546 and Located on the East and West Side of Future Spur 399]
250102Z. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACT ON A REQUEST TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO I-1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 265FT NORTH OF OLD MILL ROAD AND ON THE EAST SIDE OF FM 546 AND LOCATED ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE OF FUTURE SPUR 399. MR. BENNETT. YES, THANK YOU AGAIN. THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE BUSINESS AND AVIATION DISTRICT AND IS DESIGNATED AS THE MANUFACTURING AND WAREHOUSE EMPLOYMENT MIX AND AVIATION PLACE TYPE. THESE PLACE TYPES PRIMARILY FOCUS ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTS TO SUPPORT THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. THE PROPERTY IS PROPOSED TO BE BISECTED BY THE SPUR 399 EXTENSION, WHICH SHOULD OFFER SUBSTANTIAL ACCESS TO THE SITE. STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING MEETS. THE INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES, AND SHOULD NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE SURROUNDING AREA. AS SUCH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED ZONING AND I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR. BENNETT. ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. BENNETT? OKAY. IS OUR APPLICANT HERE, JAKE? GOOD EVENING, ROCCO KERSEY, ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPER COMMITTED INDUSTRIAL, DID YOU SAY ADDRESS, PLEASE? 5717 LEGACY DRIVE, SUITE 250, PLANO, TEXAS. THANK YOU. THE ONLY COMMENTS WE HAVE ON THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS THIS SITE WILL BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, OR WE INTEND TO SEEK ANNEXATION INTO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. AND THIS WOULD ADD 32.NET ACRES TO THE TAX BASE, AND IT'LL BE USED IN THE WAY THE GENERAL PLAN INTENDED IT TO.
AND IN CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING USES THAT ARE LARGELY INDUSTRIAL, AS YOU CAN SEE. SO WE THINK IT'S A NET BENEFIT TO THE CITY, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING IT TO FRUITION.
WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR THIS FOR THE SITE PENDING ZONING CHANGE, IT WOULD BE TWO BUILDINGS, TWO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS, CLASS A INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS. THE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN TWO PHASES BECAUSE THE SPUR COMING THROUGH SPUR 399. THE WEST SIDE WOULD BE A 232,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, THE EAST SIDE WOULD BE 159,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, SIMILAR TO THE ONES THAT ARE JUST TO THE NORTH. IS THAT CORRECT? THE THOUGHT? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR APPLICANT? THANK YOU, MR. KERSEY. THANK YOU. THIS ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IF YOU ARE HERE AND YOU WISH TO COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, KINDLY COME FORWARD. OKAY? SEEING AS THERE IS NONE, DO WE HAVE A MOTION REGARDING THE PUBLIC HEARING? DO WE HAVE A MOTION REGARDING THIS ITEM OR ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? WE'D LIKE TO HAVE ANYONE COME BACK.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. OKAY. COMMISSIONER LEBO MAKES A FIRST. AND WAS THAT YOU, MR. CRAIG? YES, MA'AM. AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CRAIG TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST.
OKAY. THIS MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AND WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION. ALSO AT THE NOVEMBER 18TH, 2025 MEETING. NEXT ITEM ON OUR
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AGENDA IS ITEM 25-0105Z. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACT ON A REQUEST TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM RS. 60 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, GENERALLY TO ALLOW RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY USES AND MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 155FT EAST OF NIELSON STREET AND ON THE NORTH[00:55:01]
SIDE OF ANTHONY STREET. MR. BENNETT. YES. THANK YOU AGAIN. LAST TIME. YOU'LL HAVE TO LISTEN TO ME TALK TONIGHT. HOPEFULLY, THIS IS A PROPOSED REZONING FROM THE RS. 60 DISTRICT OF PD. IN ORDER TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS ON THE SUBJECT. ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, THE PROPOSED USES IN THE PD MATCH THOSE THAT ARE ALREADY PERMITTED ON THE SITE, AND STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THOSE USES. HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REDUCE THE UDC'S MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR SETBACKS AND REQUIRED PARKING RATIO. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REDUCE THE FRONT SETBACK FROM 20FT TO 16, AND THE SIDE AND REAR SETBACKS ARE PROPOSED TO BE JUST FIVE FEET AND EIGHT FEET, RESPECTIVELY, AND TO THAT ALSO INCLUDES NOT FOLLOWING THE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY SETBACK STANDARDS, WHICH WOULD BE WHICH WOULD NEED TO BE ENFORCED ALONG THE WEST, NORTH AND EAST SIDES OF THIS PROPERTY. THE PROPOSED PARKING RATIO IS ONE SPACE PER 64FT■!S OF SANCTUARY AREA, INSTD OF ONE SPACE PER 50FT■!S. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO NOT PROPOSING TO PROVIDE ANY EXCEPTIONAL QUALITIES WHICH ARE REQUIRED FOR PD. AS SUCH, STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE PROPOSED REZONING AND I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU JAKE. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR JAKE? CAN YOU THE SETBACKS THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING, COULD YOU GO OVER THOSE ONE MORE TIME, PLEASE? I'M SORRY. YEAH. SO TYPICALLY FOR A COMMERCIAL USE WITHIN WITHIN THIS DISTRICT OR FOR A RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY USE, IT WOULD BE 20FT. THAT WOULD BE THE SETBACK ALONG ANTHONY STREET. AND THEN FOR A ONE STORY NONRESIDENTIAL BUILDING, YOU WOULD HAVE A 30 FOOT RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY SETBACK ALONG THE WEST, NORTH AND EAST SIDES. INSTEAD, THEY'RE PROPOSING 16 ALONG ANTHONY STREET, FIVE FEET ALONG THE WEST AND EAST, AND THEN EIGHT FEET ALONG THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE. AND WHAT WOULD THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE USUALLY BE FOR A ONE STORY BUILDING, IT WOULD BE 3030. YEAH. OKAY. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY SQUARE FEET ARE IN THE BUILDING CURRENTLY? I WOULD DEFER TO THE APPLICANT ON THIS ONE. I AM KIND OF TAKING THIS ONE OVER A LITTLE BIT. AGAIN, THIS IS ALSO JUST A ZONING. SO IT'S THE PD. THIS IS THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, CONCEPT SITE PLAN. BUT THIS IS NOT A FULLY REVIEW SITE PLAN AT THIS POINT. AND THE THE 30FT. WOULD THAT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE ABANDONED ALLEYWAY UP THERE OR NOT. THAT WOULD IF THEY WERE TO INCLUDE THAT WHEN THEY REPLAT THE PROPERTY FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, THEY COULD GRAB UP TO, I BELIEVE, THE MIDDLE OF THAT ALLEY. IF IF THE CITY IS OKAY WITH THAT BEING ABANDONED, AND THEN THEY COULD INCLUDE THAT TOWARDS THEIR THEIR ACTUAL PROPERTY AS WELL FOR DEVELOPMENT. JAKE. SO JUST LOOKING AT THIS EXHIBIT, THE I HAVEN'T COUNTED THE PARKING SPACES DRAWN IN, BUT WHAT WHAT WOULD BE THE SHORTAGE? THE SHORTAGE, I BELIEVE IT IS. I BELIEVE IT'S 15 SPACES IS SPACES, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT MAY BE LESS THAN THAT. THE RATIO THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT APPROVING WITHIN THE UDC, IT'S ONE SPACE PER 50FT■!S OF SANCTUARY OR ASSEMBLY AREA WITH THE PD. WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE REGS IS ONE PER 64FT■!S. OKAY, M JUST TRYING TO GET A NUMBER OF HOW MANY SPACES THEY'D BE SHORT.YEAH, IT WOULD BE COMPLETELY DEPENDENT UPON THEIR SANCTUARY AREA. AND BECAUSE THIS IS JUST A REZONING, WE HAVEN'T REVIEWED THAT AS PART OF A SITE PLAN YET. OKAY. YEAH, I'LL DEFER TO THE APPLICANT THAT MAY HAVE THAT EXACT NUMBER FOR YOU. JAKE, DO YOU KNOW IF THAT'S ALSO AN ABANDONED ALLEY, THE SLIVER OF PROPERTY ON THE EASTERN PORTION? I DIDN'T SEE IT LABELED ON THE ZONING EXHIBIT. YES. I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THAT IS OR NOT. IT'S NOT. I DON'T SEE IT LABELED ON THERE. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING THE QUESTION. I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS PART OF THAT. YEAH, I'M NOT 100% SURE ON THAT EITHER. IT LOOKS LIKE THE ADJACENT OWNERS GO RIGHT TO THAT, I THINK. BUT OH, I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE EASEMENT THAT CUTS ACROSS THE TRACKS, THE STORM SEWER. AND THEN OF COURSE THE SANITARY SEWER EASEMENTS. ARE THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON PUTTING PERMANENT DWELLINGS ON TOP OF EITHER ONE OF THOSE EASEMENTS? SO I'LL DEFER TO THE APPLICANT ON WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE FOR THAT. BUT I IMAGINE THEY ARE GOING TO END UP REROUTING THAT AND THEN SHIFTING THAT EASEMENT OVER TO WHERE THE THE NEW LINES WOULD END UP BEING. OKAY. THANK YOU. JAKE, IS OUR APPLICANT HERE THIS EVENING? YES, MA'AM.
KINDLY STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. GOOD EVENING. ARE YOU ALL THIS EVENING? FINE. MY NAME
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IS MYRON BRADFORD. ADDRESS IS 7713 SHASTA DRIVE, MCKINNEY, TEXAS. I AM THE SENIOR PASTOR OF NEW JERUSALEM BAPTIST CHURCH. MY WIFE, CO-PASTOR DEB BRADFORD. HELLO. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.THANK YOU FOR THE BOARD THAT IS TAKING THEIR TIME OUT OF THEIR BUSY SCHEDULE TO SERVE THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. WE'RE HERE BECAUSE OF ONE REASON WE NEED ROOM. WE'RE EXPANDING. WE ARE SHORT 15 SPACES. FROM WHAT YOU ALL HAVE HEARD, WE ARE WORKING ON PLAN B, WHICH IS TO ACQUIRE SOME PROPERTY NEXT DOOR TO HELP TAKE CARE OF THAT AND RECTIFY THAT BY TALKING TO A GENTLEMAN RIGHT NOW TO BUY HIS PROPERTY OR LEASE IT OUT TO US FOR A LITTLE BITTY SMALL AMOUNT. THIS IS OUR PLANS, AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO KIND OF GO INTO WHAT WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. OKAY, WE'LL COME ON IN. SURE. THANK YOU. I'M DEBORAH BRADFORD, ADDRESS 7713 CHESTER DRIVE IN MCKINNEY. SO THIS IS THE NEW JERUSALEM BAPTIST CHURCH EXPANSION PLAN, WHICH WILL INCLUDE A DAYCARE, AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, COMMUNITY CENTER. SOUL FOOD RESTAURANT, A CAFE, NEW CAFE. YOU'RE HUNGRY ALREADY, RIGHT? AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE THEIR PRESENTATION ON OUR SCREEN. SANCTUARY. THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOOD. SO THE DAYCARE WILL PROVIDE ACCESSIBLE, AFFORDABLE CHILDCARE FOR FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN AGES 0 TO 12, 12 SHOULD BE TWO YEARS. AND INCLUDING PRE-K THREE AND FOUR WILL SUPPORT WORKING PARENTS AND ALLOW THEM TO PURSUE EMPLOYMENT AND EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES. IT WILL PROMOTE EARLY CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT AND PREPARE CHILDREN FOR SCHOOL SUCCESS, AND HELP TO REDUCE CHILDCARE GAPS IN THE NEARBY LOW TO MODERATE INCOME HOUSING COMMUNITIES, BUT NOT SOLELY TO THAT DEMOGRAPHIC BUT ACROSS THE BOARD. THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BENEFITS. WE WILL OFFER QUALITY EDUCATION FOR CHILDREN FROM K THROUGH THIRD GRADE, AND THE PLAN IS TO ADD ANOTHER GRADE EACH YEAR. IT WILL CREATE A SAFE, NURTURING LEARNING ENVIRONMENT, IMPROVE ACADEMIC OUTCOMES AND FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CHILDREN ACROSS THE BOARD AND INCLUDING UNDERSERVED AREAS. IT WILL EXPAND EDUCATIONAL AND TECHNOLOGY ACCESS FOR LOW TO MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS. OUR COMMUNITY CENTER WILL ALSO PROVIDE A SAFE PLACE FOR CHILDREN AFTER SCHOOL. THIS SIDE OF TOWN HAS A NEED FOR CHILDREN TO COME AND GATHER.
OUR COMMUNITY CENTER WILL TAKE CARE OF THOSE ITEMS. FOR THEM. IT'S THE MOST PHENOMENAL THING.
IT'S GOING TO ALSO PROVIDE AFTER SCHOOL TUTORING FOR THESE CHILDREN. WE'VE BEEN DOING TUTORING IN THE COMMUNITY FOR QUITE A LONG TIME. WE'VE TAKEN CHILDREN FROM F TO A'S. IT'LL ALSO INCLUDE ADULT EDUCATION, SO IT'S JUST NOT A PLACE FOR CHILDREN. WE'LL BE SERVING ADULTS FOR ADULT EDUCATION IN VARIOUS WAYS. WHAT ELSE WAS IT? OUR NEW SANCTUARY. I'M SORRY.
GO AHEAD. NEW SANCTUARY IS GOING TO HOLD APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 300 NEW ATTENDEES FOR A NEW JERUSALEM BAPTIST CHURCH. SO WE'RE DEFINITELY EXPANDING. OUR WHOLE THING IS WE'RE TRULY ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW. AND I DO MEAN EXTREMELY ACTIVE FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DO WITH OUR PROJECT CARE, WITH COMMUNITY CARE PROJECT, TAKING CARE OF ALL TYPE OF DIFFERENT AREAS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND MINISTRIES WITH WOODSIDE VILLAGE THAT WE HAVE TAKEN CHILDREN, AND FROM ALL THE THINGS AND EVENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN.
PARTNERSHIPS ALONG THE WAY HAVE MOLDED THESE CHILDREN AND BROUGHT THEM INTO A PLACE. NOW THAT WE'RE SEEING A TREMENDOUS CHANGE IN THEM FROM SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE DONE THROUGH EDUCATION, THAT THEY'VE HAD A PITCH COMPETITION RECENTLY, WE'VE HAD THE PITCH COMPETITION THAT WAS PHENOMENAL. AND RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY HALL, WE PARTNERED WITH WE ARE WE'RE GOING TO BE PARTNERING WITH MCKINNEY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY, AND WE HAVE SOME OF THE MEMBERS HERE, MCKINNEY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY HERE TONIGHT. SO THIS THIS NOT OUR ENDEAVOR. WE'RE ALSO PARTNERING WITH MCKINNEY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY. WE HAVE SOME OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS HERE THIS EVENING. WE HAVE OUR ARCHITECT HERE AND OUR CIVIL ENGINEER TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY HAVE. ANYTHING ELSE. WHAT DID I MISS OUT, BUDDY? I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. JUST THE JOB CREATION, OF COURSE, THAT THIS WILL PROVIDE AS WELL AS ECONOMIC GROWTH AND EMPOWERMENT AND ALSO THE TAX BASE IT'S GOING TO PROBABLY EMPLOY PROBABLY ABOUT ANOTHER 50, PROBABLY 50 TO 75 PEOPLE ON THE EAST SIDE OF MCKINNEY. SO WHICH IS
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ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL. THAT IS THE WHOLE GOAL. WE NEED PLACES TO BE EMPLOYED. WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE DAYCARES FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA OF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, WHERE THERE IS NONE AT THIS POINT. AND WE NEED EDUCATION ON EAST OF HIGHWAY FIVE. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO THE AREA, AND WE NEED THE CITY OF MCKINNEY HELP TO EXPAND.THANK YOU. YEAH. IF YOU IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, IT'S FINE. BUT APPROXIMATELY HOW LONG HAS NEW JERUSALEM OWNED THESE SITES OR PROPERTIES? I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I'M THE SENIOR PASTOR. WE HAVE BEEN A NEW JERUSALEM, HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR NOW 52 YEARS. I HAVE BEEN THE PASTOR THERE FOR 12 YEARS, AND WE HAVE BEEN AT THAT PARTICULAR AREA FOR THE LAST 43 YEARS. THANK YOU. THAT'S RIGHT. ABOUT HOW MANY ATTENDEES DO YOU HAVE ON SUNDAY? ON SUNDAY, WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 50 TO 60 PEOPLE ON SUNDAYS. AND WHICH PROPERTY WAS IT TO THE EAST OR WEST THAT YOU WERE TRYING TO ACQUIRE OR GET RIGHTS FOR PARKING? SO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOOD WITH DIRECTIONS THAT'S GOING TO TELL YOU PUT IT UP. I MIGHT BE ABLE TO POINT IT OUT. AND IF I CAN'T, I GOT SOMEBODY THAT CAN. IT'S SOUTHWEST, SOUTH OF THE CAMPUS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET. SO HOW CAN WE BLOW THAT UP A LITTLE BIT DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM WHERE? WHERE OUR CHURCH SITS. PARKING WILL BE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT. ARE YOU PLANNING TO DEFINITELY TRY TO ACQUIRE THAT? RIGHT. DEFINITELY. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. SO YOU'VE GOT PROVISIONS FOR 71 SPACES DRAWING I FIGURED OUT. SO YOU'RE JUST 15 SHORT IS WHAT, 15 SHORT, SIR, AT THIS TIME? YEAH. HOW MANY WORKERS DO YOU PLAN AS FAR AS TEACHERS? TEACHERS I KNOW THAT STARTS OFF WITH HOW MANY GRADES IN THE BEGINNING. SO IT'LL BE K THROUGH THIRD AND AT A GRADE EVERY YEAR. SO THAT WOULD DEPEND ON THE RATIO OF THE CLASS. SO FOR HAVING MANY STUDENTS THAT WE HAVE THEN WE'LL HAVE TO DETERMINE THE STATE QUALIFICATIONS OR REQUIREMENTS PER RATIO OR TO COME TO THE CORRECT RATIO. BUT THERE'LL BE A TEACHER AND PROBABLY AN AIDE. I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. I'M SORRY. A TEACHER AND AN AIDE? YES. JUST TRYING TO GET HOW MANY PARKING SPACES, YOU KNOW. DO YOU THINK 71 WILL HANDLE IT? YES. THEY'RE NOT. EVERYBODY'S NOT THERE ON THE SAME DAY. SO SUNDAYS IS ONE DAY THROUGH THE WEEK. YOU DON'T NEED THAT KIND OF PARKING. BUT IF YOU SEE THE NEED I MEAN 71 FOR 300 PEOPLE, THAT'S NOT VERY MUCH. BUT IF YOU SEE THE NEED YOU'RE TRYING TO MOVE DEFINITELY ON THE OTHER PROPERTY, GET SOME MORE PARKING. WELL, WE WANT TO DO THAT JUST SO THAT AS TIME GOES BY WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE EVERYTHING IS A GROWTH POINT. YOU DON'T JUST JUMP INTO THAT RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, I KNOW WHAT WE'RE SAYING AND I KNOW WHERE WE ARE, BUT EVERYTHING HAS A TIME. AND SO WE'RE PREPARING FOR THE GROWTH AS WE COME. SO AT THIS POINT ON SUNDAYS, WE DON'T HAVE NEAR THE PEOPLE THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE IN THAT AREA RIGHT NOW THROUGH THE WEEK. A LOT OF THAT IS COMING AND GOING. THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY STAYING. WHEN THE SCHOOL GETS UP, IT'S PARKING AND STUFF LIKE THAT. FOR TEACHERS. YES, BUT PARENTS DON'T SAY, I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION. THANK YOU. SO THE PARKING HAS ACTUALLY BEEN BASED ON THE SANCTUARY TO BE BUILT, RIGHT, SIR. THE PARKING IS ACTUALLY BEING BASED ON THE SANCTUARY.
THAT'S CORRECT SIR. OKAY. SO ONCE YOU GO UNDER CONSTRUCTION, WHERE WILL YOUR CURRENT CONGREGATION MEMBERS MEET? WELL, WE'RE ONCE WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, SO WE'RE KIND OF DOING IN PHASES. THE SANCTUARY WILL BE TORE DOWN LAST. OKAY, SO AS THE DAYCARE AND THE COMMUNITY CENTERS BUILT WILL MOVE IN FROM THE OLD SANCTUARY WHERE WE ARE NOW INTO THE COMMUNITY CENTER, HAVE SERVICE THERE. AND THEN WHEN THE NEW SANCTUARY GET UP, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO TEAR IT DOWN AND BUILD IT TO THE NEW SANCTUARY, DEPENDING ON CONSTRUCTION. NOW, I'M KIND OF NEW AT THIS. IF WE NEED TO MOVE OUT OF THERE, THEN WE'LL FIND AN EXISTING PLACE WE NEED TO GO INTO WHILE THE WHOLE THING IS GOING ON. OKAY, THE WE. I WAS ASKING A WHILE AGO ABOUT THE SANITARY SEWER EASEMENTS. ARE Y'ALL PLANNING TO HAVE THOSE REROUTED OR WHAT'S THE THE PLAN THAT MAY BE YOUR ENGINEER QUESTION. IT'S DEFINITELY A GREAT QUESTION FOR THE ENGINEER. HE CAN EXPLAIN ALL OF THOSE GREAT THINGS. BUT YES, PART OF THAT ANSWER IS YES, IT WILL BE REROUTED. OKAY. AND WE'LL GET OUR ARCHITECT AND OUR CIVIL ENGINEER TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ALL OF THAT GREAT STUFF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS KENNY WHISTLER, ARCHITECT. I LIVE IN BOULEVARD, TEXAS, SMALL COMMUNITY NORTH OF SAN ANTONIO. 651 TAYLOR POINT BOULEVARD, TEXAS. AND THIS IS JOHN RHODES. JOHN JOHN RHODES,
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5049 EDWARDS RANCH ROAD, FORT WORTH, TEXAS, WITH FORESIGHT GROUP, THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT. SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A VERY SIMPLE EXPLANATION AS TO WHY WE'RE HERE AND WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO THE OBVIOUS TASK BEFORE US WAS WE HAVE A LARGE PROGRAM, VERY AMBITIOUS PROGRAM, BUT WE HAVE A SITE THAT MAY NOT FIT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO.SO THEY ASKED US AS PROFESSIONALS TO HELP THEM SEE WHAT COULD BE MAXIMIZED IN TERMS OF A FOOTPRINT ON THE EXISTING SITE. SO BEFORE WE GOT INTO THE THE TECHNICAL DATA, WHICH AGAIN, THE EXHIBITS THAT WE SHOW, THE RENDERINGS THAT WE HAVE ON THE ON THE WALL, THESE ARE ALL PRELIMINARY, THEY'RE ALL CONCEPTUAL. WE'RE LITERALLY JUST TRYING TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND WHAT, WHAT WHAT THE MAXIMUM FOOTPRINT COULD BE ON THE SITE AND ALSO MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. WE KNEW, GIVEN THE THE AMBITION OF THE PROGRAM, THAT THE PARKING MIGHT BE SHORT. OKAY. SO THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE BASED ON ASSEMBLY SPACE OR CHURCH SPACE.
AND SO WHAT WE HAVE ALLOTTED FOR THE CURRENT FOR THE FUTURE SANCTUARY WOULD BE 4100FT■!S. SO IF YOU TAKE THE 4100FT■!S AND YU DIVIDE THAT BY 50, THAT GETS YOU TO 82 SPACES. OKAY. SO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO, IF WE COULD SEE THE EXHIBIT ON THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. SO THE EXHIBIT THIS IS OUR OUR PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN. THIS SHOWS INITIALLY 71 SPACES AROUND THE FOOTPRINT REALIZED. AND SO AS WE GOT INTO IT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, IT ACTUALLY ENDED UP BEING 65 SPACES. SO WHAT'S REQUIRED IS 82. WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET WAS 65. SO WE'RE 17 PARKING SPACES SHORT OKAY. BUT AGAIN IT'S ALL BASED ON IF YOU LOOK AT THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE DIAGRAM IT SAYS SANCTUARY. IT'S ALL BASED ON THE FOOTPRINT OF THAT SANCTUARY. AND AGAIN THAT'S CONCEPTUAL IN NATURE. SO IF WE TOOK THE 4100 SQUARE FOOT DIVIDED IT BY 50, IN ORDER TO MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, THAT SANCTUARY SPACE WOULD HAVE TO BE REDUCED BY ABOUT 1000FT■!, OR IN ORDER TO GET TO, YOU KNOW, TO TO MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENT. AND SO. WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN TERMS OF, OKAY, WE MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, BUT NOT COMPLETELY. AND ALSO THAT THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE OCCURRING AT THE CHURCH AND THE CHURCH CAMPUS ARE NOT ALL GOING TO BE OCCURRING AT THE SAME TIME. SO THE PEAK PERIODS, OF COURSE, ARE GOING TO BE SUNDAY, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE PARKING SPACES ARE NOT GOING TO BE USED, YOU KNOW, MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
SO YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT THE UTILITIES. WE DID FIND THAT THE EXISTING SITE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OVER AN ACRE, HAS EXISTING UTILITIES UNDER THE SITE. SO WE KNOW THAT THOSE UTILITIES AS THEY EXIST TODAY WOULD NOT ALLOW US TO DO THE FOOTPRINT THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN. SO WE HAVE DONE SOME INITIAL RESEARCH, AND THAT'S WHAT OUR CIVIL ENGINEER WILL TALK ABOUT.
AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THAT THAT RESEARCH AND WHAT WAS DONE, WE WILL BE REROUTING THE EASEMENTS. THERE'S MULTIPLE LINES ESSENTIALLY ALL NORTH SOUTH THROUGH THE SITE. THEY'LL BE REROUTED AROUND THE BUILDING. OKAY. SOME OF THE UTILITIES ARE IN THE EASEMENT. SOME OF THEM AREN'T. AND WE'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY ON THAT. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.
WE'LL SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. WHISTLER OR FOR MR. RHODES? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR APPLICANT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOU.
ALL'S TIME. SO THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. IF YOU HAVE COME THIS EVENING AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN, KINDLY APPROACH AT THIS TIME. AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AS YOU COME UP. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CATHERINE MCGILL. MY ADDRESS IS 3408 JACKSON DRIVE, MCKINNEY, TEXAS. I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF SERVING ON THE BOARD FOR THE NEW JERUSALEM EXPANSION PROJECT, AND AS SUCH, HAVE AN INTEREST IN MAKING SURE THAT THIS PROJECT GETS, GETS ACCOMPLISHED BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE EAST
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SIDE OF MCKINNEY FOR SO MANY REASONS, MOST OF WHICH IS BRINGING QUALITY EDUCATION AND DAYCARE TO A PORTION OF OUR CITY THAT IS UNDERSERVED IN THAT AREA. I BRING GOOD NEWS, I HOPE. I AM WORKING TO WORK ON SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES FROM A CORPORATION THAT OWNS SPACE ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY, AND THAT DISCUSSION WAS UNDERTAKEN SOME MONTHS AGO AND IS OPENING AGAIN WITH ENCORE WIRE TO SEE IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO, EITHER THROUGH A PHILANTHROPIC DONATION OR A POTENTIAL SALE OF A SMALL PARCEL OF LAND. AND I'M SORRY TO SAY, I DO NOT HAVE THE EXACT PARCEL NUMBER AND THE AMOUNT OF THE SIZE OF THE PARCEL, BUT I THINK IT WILL ALLEVIATE A CONSIDERABLE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES. SO I WOULD LIKE THE COMMISSION TO PERHAPS HOLD THAT THOUGHT IN MIND, FOR AS A POSSIBLE REMEDIATION FOR THE EXTRA SPACES NEEDED. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ANGELA RICHARDSON WOODS AND MY ADDRESS IS 2301 SPRUCE MEADOW LANE, MCKINNEY, TEXAS. AND I AM HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS THIS PROJECT. I KNOW THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF LOGISTICS THAT HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT WITH THE CITY AND WITH THE APPLICANT, BUT I THINK AS THEY'VE DEPICTED HERE, THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME GAPS AND THINGS THAT WE NEED THAT ARE NEEDED IN EAST MCKINNEY. THERE IS CHILD CARE, YOU KNOW, GAPS THAT NEED TO BE MET. AND OF COURSE, THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL RESTAURANTS THAT PROVIDE A MORE DIVERSE SOUL FOOD CUISINE THAT WE ALSO ARE MISSING HERE IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. SO AS A I'VE ATTENDED NEW JERUSALEM IN GREAT CONGREGATION, GREAT WORK BY THE PASTOR AND FIRST LADY, AND WHAT THEY JUST DO IN THE COMMUNITY.AND I JUST HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THIS PROJECT, ONCE ALL THE LOGISTICS HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT, WILL BE A VALUE ADD TO OUR COMMUNITY AND PROVIDING A JOB CREATION, EDUCATION AND ECONOMIC GROWTH, THERE ARE JOBS THAT ARE NEEDED AND I THINK THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WILL PROVIDE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING. I'M DOCTOR LEE BROCK 2602, CEDARWOOD COURT, MCKINNEY, TEXAS, AND I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PROJECT IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT, AND I COME HERE AS A FRIEND. I'M ACTUALLY ON THE BOARD OF THE NEW JERUSALEM PROJECT. I'M ALSO ON THE BOARD OF MCKINNEY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY, AND I WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FOUNDING MEMBERS OF MCKINNEY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY WHEN WE STARTED IT IN 1992. SO WE'VE BEEN GOING FOR 33 YEARS NOW, AND WE STARTED WITH VERY HUMBLE BEGINNINGS OVER THERE IN THE OLD BANK BUILDING ON 38TH STREET. WE HAD 13 STUDENTS. AND IT'S FUNNY HOW THINGS GO, HOW THE LORD WORKS. BUT WE STARTED VERY HUMBLE BEGINNINGS, AND NOW WE HAVE 750 KIDS AND THE SCHOOL IS GOING GREAT. BUT WE ALWAYS WANTED A SCHOOL ON THE EAST SIDE OF MCKINNEY TO DO THE SAME THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING OVER THERE, THAT IS TO RAISE UP LEADERS, MORAL LEADERS, STRONG LEADERS ON THE EAST SIDE OF MCKINNEY.
SO WHEN I MET THE BRADFORDS, HELLO, WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS. AND SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO LOGISTICALLY. YES. BUT I WOULD JUST ASK YOUR FORBEARANCE AND YOUR HELP AS WE DO THESE THINGS, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE GREAT THINGS COME OF THIS SCHOOL IN THIS PROJECT. SO WE'RE GOING TO, AS WITH MCKINNEY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY, WE ARE GOING TO PARTNER WITH THEM AND HELP THEM SUPPORT THEM. WHEN WE STARTED OUR SCHOOL IN 1992, WE PARTNERED WITH TRINITY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY IN ADDISON. THEY HELPED US GET STARTED.
THEY GAVE US BOOKS FOR OUR LIBRARY. THEY GAVE US EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS. THEY GAVE US PRINCIPLES AND POLICIES THAT WE'RE ABLE TO BUILD ON. AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THE SAME THING WITH NEW JERUSALEM. SO AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP. ANYTHING YOU DO FOR US, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. KEITH EVANS, 6012 VINEYARD LANE, MCKINNEY, TEXAS 75070I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING AS THE HEAD OF SCHOOL AT MCKINNEY. CHRISTIAN AS DOCTOR BROCK JUST
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SHARED. AND I THINK THE THING THAT WE ARE ABLE TO HELP THE TEAM AT NEW JERUSALEM WITH THE MOST IS OUR OWN EXPERIENCE. AS YOU HEARD, THAT 33 YEARS OF GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT HERE IN MCKINNEY HAS PROVIDED QUITE A FEW LESSONS FOR OUR SCHOOL. AND WHILE THIS IS ONLY MY FOURTH YEAR AS THE HEAD OF SCHOOL HERE AT AT MCA, EVEN DURING THAT TIME WE'VE GROWN BY OVER 100 STUDENTS. SO SEEING THEIR SITE PLAN IS EXCITING. IT'S VERY AMBITIOUS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT THEY CAN BRING TO THE EAST SIDE OF MCKINNEY, ESPECIALLY CHILD CARE AND EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES. AND WE BELIEVE THAT AT MCA, WE CAN HELP THEM WALK THROUGH THOSE PATTERNS OF GROWTH, THE DIFFERENT CHALLENGES THAT COME UP DURING DIFFERENT TIMES IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT, SPECIFICALLY FROM THE LESSONS AND THE THINGS THAT WE'VE LEARNED AS A SCHOOL.SO WE WOULD ASK YOU TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AND CONSIDERATION AS, AS YOU ENTERTAIN THIS, THIS MOTION TONIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND, SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CRAIG AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER WATLEY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COMMISSIONER. CAN YOU. SORRY, I DID NOT. I'M STRUGGLING TONIGHT. KYLIE, CAST YOUR VOTES FOR OUR MOTION ON THE PUBLIC HEARING. THE MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS UNANIMOUS. AND I LOOK TO OPEN UP TO ANY DISCUSSION. I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION, MAYBE FOR JAKE. SO. I NOTICED ON THE MAPS, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF RESIDENCES AROUND THE LOCATION. AND. CAN YOU CAN YOU TELL ME HOW THIS THIS ZONING CHANGE WAS POSTED AND IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION WITH ANY RESIDENCES SURROUNDING. SO I GUESS, YEAH, THAT'LL BE DEFERRED TO THE APPLICANT IF THEY'VE REACHED OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS AND WHAT THEY'VE HEARD AS FAR AS CITIZEN COMMENTS, LETTERS OF SUPPORT, LETTERS OF OPPOSITION, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE RECEIVED ANY OF THOSE. BUT AS FOR IF THE APPLICANT HAS DONE SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, I'LL DEFER TO THEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. JAKE, WHILE YOU'RE UP HERE, CAN YOU WALK THROUGH THE SETBACKS AGAIN? BECAUSE ON THIS SITE PLAN, I BELIEVE IT'S TEN FEET ON THE NORTHEAST AND WEST AS IT'S SHOWN ON THE PLAN TODAY WITH THE 16 ON THE SOUTH. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE I'LL CALL IT TOT LOT AT THE SOUTH END OF THE BUILDING WITH PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT IS REALLY THAT IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE SANCTUARY, OR WHAT MIGHT IMPACT THAT 16 FOOT SETBACK? YEAH. SO THE 16 FOOT SETBACK, IT DOES GO TO THE SOUTH PART OF THAT BUILDING, JUST THE EDGE OF THAT SANCTUARY. THE REST OF THE SETBACKS WOULD TYPICALLY BE 30FT. THEY DO HAVE YOU KNOW, THAT DOES NOT ALL NEED TO BE LANDSCAPING. IT'S JUST A BUILDING SETBACK. SO THERE IS A TEN FOOT A REQUIRED LANDSCAPE BUFFER, WHICH IS WHAT'S BEING SHOWN HERE. SO THOSE SETBACKS BASED ON THIS PLAN ARE KIND OF NO. LIKE THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY BEING BEING REDUCED THAT MUCH BASED ON THIS, THIS PLAN, THE FULL LANDSCAPE BUFFER IS STILL BEING PROVIDED. HOWEVER, DESIGN EXCEPTIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR PARKING SPACES TO BE PERMITTED WITHIN 20FT OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. SO THAT'S ALSO ANOTHER FACTOR IN THIS. AND THAT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES REQUIREMENT CONSISTS OF THE RIGHT OF WAY TO THE NORTH AND THE ALLEY TO THE EAST THAT ARE UNDEVELOPED. YES. EVEN THOUGH THEIR RIGHT OF WAY AND EVEN THOUGH THEIR RIGHT OF WAY WITH THE ABANDONMENT, THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL USES. SO AND THAT'S BASED OFF OF RESIDENTIAL USES OR ZONES. SO EVEN IF THOSE PROPERTIES AREN'T USED FOR RESIDENTIAL, THEY'RE STILL ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JAKE? COULD MR. WHISTLER, MR. RHODES, PLEASE COME BACK UP, PLEASE? I HAVE A QUESTION. SO THE GENTLEMAN HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU'VE LOOKED AT SOME ALTERNATE PLANS. CAN YOU GO INTO ANY DETAILS REGARDING THOSE AT ALL? THE PLANS ARE JUST SOME VERY SCHEMATIC UTILITY RELOCATIONS FOR THE EASEMENTS, BUT NOT FOR THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE ITSELF. NO, MA'AM. OKAY. I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THE THE BUILDING SETBACK, YOU CAN SEE NOT ON THIS, BUT IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER, IT'S A BUILDING SETBACK COMING FROM
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EXCUSE ME, COMING FROM THE NORTH, BUT WE'VE WE'VE GOT AMPLE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE PROPERTY LINE. BUT WE DO HAVE A TRASH ENCLOSURE THAT WILL BE A VERTICAL STRUCTURE IN THAT TOP RIGHT CORNER. SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THAT ONE AT EIGHT FEET.OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. RHODES? THANK YOU, MISS BRADFORD. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A PETITION THAT WAS SIGNED BY MEMBERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ADDRESSES ON NELSON AND ANTHONY STREET IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT. SO IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO READ THE LETTER, I'M HAPPY TO DO SO ON THERE. I'M SORRY. HOW MANY NAMES? FIVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. TO WHOM? IT MAY CONCERN MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. THIS PETITION IS SIGNED BY MEMBERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WERE APPROACHED BY MISS ROSE, A MEMBER OF NEW JERUSALEM ON ANTHONY STREET, AND ARE INFORMED THAT THIS WISH TO CONSTRUCT THE ADJACENT BUILDING NEXT TO THE CHURCH. THIS WILL PROVIDE A DAYCARE CENTER, CAFE, SCHOOL WHICH IS A MOST NEEDED IN OUR COMMUNITY. YOUR THOUGHTS AND APPRECIATION TO THIS MATTER ARE OF GREAT HELP TO THE AREA SIGNED BY NEIGHBORING CITIZENS.
AND THEN ALL OF THE NAMES ARE LISTED HERE ON THE LETTER. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS BRADFORD? MRS. BRADFORD, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME SPACE CONSTRAINTS AND, YOU KNOW, SOME THINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK THROUGH. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PROS VERSUS THE CONS AND ALL THE SPECIAL. JUST EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE DOING IN THE COMMUNITY IN, IN A SECTION OF, OF OUR TOWN THAT OFTEN GETS LOOKED OVER. I JUST THINK THAT FOR ME, IT'S A I WOULDN'T CALL IT A NO BRAINER, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING I'M IN FAVOR OF AND SUPPORT.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CRAIG. I ALSO JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE'RE PRESENTED WITH. SCENARIOS THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE CHALLENGING, THAT MIGHT NOT KIND OF FIT THE NORM. AND TO COMMISSIONER CRAIG'S POINT, IN TERMS OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY PROPOSING AND DOING WITHIN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY AND ALSO PARTNERING WITH MCKINNEY CHRISTIAN, WHO HAS A LONG HISTORY OF EXCELLENCE IN TERMS OF ACADEMIC SUPPORT, BUT ALSO BEING BASED BIBLICALLY. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A STRONG PARTNERSHIP. YOU'VE ALSO HAD A LOT OF STRONG SUPPORT. PEOPLE HAVE COME OUT THIS EVENING TO EXPRESS THEIR SUPPORT OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND. LIKE COMMISSIONER CRAIG, I SEE THIS AS SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. AND I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF IT AS WELL. I TEND TO AGREE. I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE PARKING. HOPEFULLY THAT CAN BE MITIGATED WITH ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, ACQUISITION OF MORE LAND OR AN AGREEMENT THERE. BUT I THINK THERE ARE DEFINITELY A LOT OF PLUSES TO TO THE, I GUESS, TO THE FURTHERMENT OF THIS PROJECT. IF I HAD A VOICE. THERE WOULD BE A LOT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY. BUT WHAT I DO WANT TO SAY IS THAT EVEN THE SHORTAGE OF PARKING SPOTS, OUR CHURCH NEVER WOULD HAVE MADE IT HAD WE NOT BEEN ABLE TO PARK ON THE STREET.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT BEEN MENTIONED HERE, THAT THERE IS PARKING ON THE STREET.
AND I'VE WATCHED FOR FOR CHURCHES ON THE EAST SIDE THAT HAD TO PURCHASE ADDITIONAL LAND FOR PARKING, BUT GOD MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO DO IT. SO I AM DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT. I'VE HAD OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH NEW JERUSALEM ON THE EAST SIDE, AND EVERYTHING THEY DO IS OF EXCELLENCE, AND I BELIEVE THIS PROJECT WILL BE OF EXCELLENCE ALSO. SO IF NO ONE ELSE HAS ANYTHING, WHISPERS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS PROJECT. I SECOND THAT MOTION. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER WATLEY AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CRAIG. DID YOU? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES?
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AND THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, UNANIMOUSLY, 7 TO 0. AND IT WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION AT THE NOVEMBER 18TH, 2025 MEETING. AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO CALL FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING ANY MATTERS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA.[COMMISSION AND STAFF COMMENTS]
SEEING AS THERE AREN'T ANY, ARE THERE ANY COMMISSION OR STAFF COMMENTS? ONLY ONE THING FROM STAFF. Y'ALL GOT TO MEET EMILY LAST WEEK. EMILY BELL'S OUR NEW PLANNER, AND I HAVE ACTUALLY FILLED MY LAST SPOT WITH DESTINY. SO SHE IS HERE TODAY, SO YOU'LL SEE MORE OF HER AS OUR NEW DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PLANNER. HI, DESTINY. WELCOME WELCOME. WELCOME, DESTINY.AWESOME. IS THAT SUPPOSED TO SAY WELCOME? WHERE? PRESENT. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT BRINGS US TO THE END. I'D LOVE TO STAY HERE WITH EVERYBODY LONGER, BUT DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MOVE TO ADJOURN. ALL RIGHT. SECOND, SECONDED BY GINA HAMMACK. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE OFFICIALLY ADJOURNED. WE HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE. YES. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL RIGHT. AND WE ARE OF
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