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          WAIT ON PATRICK? ON MY TIME, MR. MAYOR? GOOD AFTERNOON. IT'S 3:04 P.M. WELCOME TO THE CITY 
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OF MCKINNEY'S WORK SESSION. IT IS TUESDAY, MARCH THE 17TH. IT'S 3 P.M. THIS IS 401 EAST 
          [PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS]
VIRGINIA STREET IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS, COUNCIL CHAMBERS. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS WILL BE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL? OKAY, THAT WAS FIRST AND THAT ONE LAST. OKAY. WE HAVE THREE SPEAKERS SIGNED UP TODAY. FIRST IS ALEX BANNISTER, MR. BANNISTER. SPEAKING. 260206 HELLO. I'M ALEX BANNISTER. I LIVE AT 801 AUTUMN RIDGE DRIVE, MCKINNEY, TEXAS, 75072. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR COX FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT AN ONGOING ISSUE THAT WE HAVE IN DISTRICT THREE AT THE INTERSECTION OF GLEN OAKS AND RIDGE. LAST FALL, I SENT A SLIDE DECK WITH TECH STOCK DATA, AND I REVIEWED THE SLIDE DECK BY THE CITY ENGINEERS. THAT'S ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA TODAY. MY REQUEST FOR YOU IS TO PLEASE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SAFEST OPTION THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN BY THE ROUNDABOUT AT WILMOTH AND WORK TOWARDS APPROVING THE ROUNDABOUT HERE AS WELL. I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO SEE THE FORESIGHT IN MCKINNEY'S INFRASTRUCTURE AS WE CONTINUE TO WELCOME THE SURF PARK, THE AMPHITHEATER AND THE PASSENGER TERMINALS AT TIKI AND HOPE THAT HERE LEADERSHIP WILL HAVE THE FORESIGHT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT BEFORE BEFORE IT BECOMES EVEN MORE OF AN ISSUE IN SAFETY HAZARD FOR RESIDENTS. MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS AUTUMN RIDGE, WHICH IS IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THAT INTERSECTION, RIGHT BEHIND GLEN OAKS ELEMENTARY IN THE BACK OF MY HOUSE POINTS TO RIDGE ROAD, SO I DRIVE THROUGH THE INTERSECTION MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY AFTER COMING TO A COMPLETE STOP. OF COURSE, I'VE ONLY LIVED AT THIS ADDRESS FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS, AND IN MY RELATIVELY SHORT TIME THERE, I'VE SEEN AND FELT THE INCREASED STRAIN ON THIS INTERSECTION. AS THE COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO GROW AND YOUNG FAMILIES HAVE STARTED TO MOVE TO THE AREA AS WELL. DURING PEAK HOURS, TRAFFIC IS BACKED UP SOUTHBOUND ON RIDGE TO WHERE IT'S DIFFICULT TO EVEN PULL INTO OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD. AND ALMOST ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS UNDER MEDICARE AGE ARE COMPLETELY FOR THIS ROUNDABOUT. I'LL SAY I HELP RUN THE STONEBRIDGE RANCH NEIGHBORHOOD FACEBOOK PAGE AND JUST SHY OF 7000 MEMBERS AND GROWING. THE DISCUSSION ON THE UNOFFICIAL POLL I CONDUCTED WAS GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF PUTTING THE ROUNDABOUT WITH 408 VOTES IN 14 HOURS, 234 WERE FOR THE ROUNDABOUT. I WILL NOTE THAT THERE ARE MORE YOUNG FAMILIES WERE FOR THAT THAN THE OLDER RESIDENTS WHO MAY BE AGAINST IT, BUT THE MORE IMPORTANT NUMBERS ARE THE REDUCTIONS IN ACCIDENTS YOU REVIEWED FROM THE WILMETH INTERSECTION VERSUS THE CURRENT NUMBERS FOR GLEN OAKS AS WELL. I THINK IT'S A NO BRAINER. 
          SPEND THE MONEY AND TIME ON SAFETY FOR OUR EXISTING AND FUTURE RESIDENTS. AND I'VE SPOKEN ENGINEERS THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROJECT, AND THEY'VE ALSO STATED THAT THIS INTERSECTION WOULD BE MORE THAN FEASIBLE. THEY HAVE A PUBLIC OUTREACH OUTREACH TEAM THAT WILL ALSO HELP WITH GETTING AS MANY RESIDENTS ON BOARD AS THEY CAN. ONCE THE PROJECT IS APPROVED. POLICE AND FIRE WERE ALSO VERY RESPONSIVE TO THE IDEA WHEN IT WAS LAST PRESENTED IN 2022 AS WELL. BUT THERE ARE A FEW VALID CONCERNS I WANT TO ADDRESS BEFORE MY TIME IS UP. 
          FROM A USAGE STANDPOINT, I DO WANT TO URGE YOU TO CONSIDER IT IF YOU DO DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT. SO PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC FROM NORTH TO SOUTH. THERE IS A TUNNEL THAT GOES EAST TO WEST, BUT WE WANT TO ADDRESS THE NORTH TO SOUTH TRAFFIC FOR CHILDREN. THE OVERFLOW OF GLEN OAKS SCHOOL PICKUP THAT OFTEN BACKS UP TO RIDGE AT THE. AT THAT INTERSECTION. AND HOW WILL TRAFFIC FLOW BE REROUTED DURING CONSTRUCTION AND HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE? SO THOSE ARE CONSIDERATIONS. AND MY FINAL CONSIDERATION IS. LASTLY, IF THERE ARE FLOWERS IN THIS ROUNDABOUT, PLEASE CONSIDER BUYING THEM FROM HUGS GREENHOUSE IN MCKINNEY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BANNISTER. NEXT SPEAKER BRUCE BRUCE. THANK YOU. BRUCE. I'M A RESIDENT OF STONEBRIDGE RANCH. BEEN HERE 22 YEARS. I'M ALSO A REAL ESTATE PHOTOGRAPHER, VIDEOGRAPHER AND A REAL ESTATE AGENT MYSELF. BUT OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, I'VE ACTUALLY TAKEN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY AND VIDEO OF THAT INTERSECTION ON TWO OCCASIONS BACK IN 21. I WAS JUST AMAZED AT ALL THE ISSUES WE CURRENTLY HAVE AT THAT INTERSECTION WITH PEOPLE NOT ABIDING BY THE THE RULES OF STOPPING FULL STOPS. THERE'S ALSO, IN MY OPINION, A DESIGN ISSUE WITH CURRENT INTERSECTION ON GLEN OAKS. THE STOP LINES ACROSS ON THE ROAD. 
          THE WHITE STOP LINES ARE A WAYS AWAY FROM THE. THE WALKWAY HASH MARKS. WHEREAS ON RIDGE THEY'RE RIGHT BY EACH OTHER. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS SOME PEOPLE COME AND THEY STOP EARLY, AND THEN PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO STOP AGAIN AT THE WALKWAY. AND SO THERE'S BEEN THE VIDEO SHOWS THAT THERE'S BEEN NUMEROUS ISSUES. PEOPLE HONKING HORNS. WHEN I WAS OVER BY THE COUNTRY CLUB THERE, YOU KNOW, TAKING THE AERIAL. BUT I TOOK AERIAL AT 309FT, TWO DIFFERENT 
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OCCASIONS. AND YOU CAN JUST SEE ALL KINDS OF ISSUES WITH THAT CURRENT INTERSECTION. I ALSO TOOK IN DECEMBER 9TH, I TOOK AERIAL OF THE ROUNDABOUT AT LAKE FOREST AND THE INTERSECTION OUT THERE WHERE THE ROUNDABOUT IS AND YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC THERE FLOWS REALLY GOOD OUT THERE. THE ISSUE I DID, I DID DO A SMALL SURVEY, NOT AS MUCH AS ALEX DID, BUT WE DID 44 COMMENTS AND MINE HAD 15 SAID YES, THEY WANT A ROUNDABOUT. SIX SAID YES, THEY WANT A STOPLIGHT THERE. AND 11 SAID NO WAY, ROUNDABOUT. BUT THEN THERE WAS OTHER 12 MORE THAT SAID THEY LIKED THE ROUNDABOUT IDEA, BUT THERE'S ISSUES WITH IT, ONE BEING THE TRAFFIC WALK TRAFFIC BECAUSE OF GLEN OAKS SCHOOL. THERE'S NO WAY WITH THE ROUNDABOUT THERE, YOU'D HAVE TO DEAL WITH HOW YOU'RE GOING TO STOP PEOPLE AND LET THEM CROSS WITH A ROUNDABOUT. SO THAT WAS REALLY MY COMMENTS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO PASS THAT ON. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT CARD IS MARTHA LOUISE NELSON NELSON. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME AND I'M NERVOUS. 
          I'M GONNA LET YOU ALL KNOW THIS. I DON'T I'M JUST NERVOUS. MY NAME IS MARTHA LOUISE NELSON, AND I LIVE AT 1034 SOUTH MURRAY STREET, MCKINNEY, TEXAS. I AM HERE IN CONCERN OF MY HOME AT 1034. I APPRECIATE THE GRANT. I APPLIED FOR A GRANT WITH THE CITY OF MCKINNEY AND I APPRECIATE THEM, YOU KNOW, ACCEPTING MY MY GRANT, YOU KNOW, GIVING ME THE GRANT. BUT RIGHT NOW I'M NERVOUS. BUT LET ME TELL YOU THIS, I WAS VERY. NOW THERE ARE CRACKS IN MY HOME WHERE THEY DID THE FOUNDATION, THEIR THEIR FECES COMING UP IN MY TUB. THEY PUT IN THEIR. AND THERE'S WHEN I WASH AND THE WATER COMES DRAIN, IT COMES UP IN MY KITCHEN. I NEVER HAD THAT EVEN BEFORE I APPLIED FOR THE GRANT. I NEVER HAD THAT KIND OF WORK. SO I TALKED TO BECKY. 
          I'VE TALKED TO. MR. OH, I JUST WANT TO KNOW, WHAT CAN Y'ALL DO FOR ME TO HELP ME WITH THE FINISH THIS GRANT OUT THAT I APPLIED FOR? THIS IS WHAT I'M ASKING. I NEED, I NEED, I'M NOT I'M NOT ABLE TO PAY FOR THIS. I'M 79 YEARS OLD AND I APPLIED FOR THE GRANT AND THEY ACCEPTED MY GRANT. I APPRECIATE IT, BUT I JUST NEED SOME MORE HELP. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT FINISHED. THEY DIDN'T COME BACK. I GOT CRACKS IN THE WALLS WHERE THEY DID THE FOUNDATION. NO, THIS IS WHAT I'M SAYING. MISS NELSON, I'M SORRY. DID YOU HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS? NO, THIS IS IT. OKAY, OKAY, WHAT WE'LL DO, WE'LL HAVE A STAFF MEMBER TALK TO YOU BEFORE YOU LEAVE, OKAY? OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE THAT PERHAPS DID NOT REGISTER? NOPE. ALL RIGHT THEN. HANG ON. NEXT ITEM WILL BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE ON COUNCIL TO DISCUSS OUR AGENDA FOR OUR REGULAR MEETING. YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, ANY PULL DOWNS OR ANY 
          [Proclamation for Procurement Month]
ANYTHING? NO. ALL RIGHT. WELL, MOVING ON, WE'LL MOVE TO OUR PROCLAMATION PORTION OF THE PROGRAM. CITY PROCUREMENT SERVICES PROCLAMATION. WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? MICROPHONE. 
          MIKE. OH, WE HAVE ONE UP THERE. I THINK YOU WORRY ABOUT IT. YEAH. AND I'M NOT MAD. YOU DIDN'T WANT THIS. HE DID NOT WANT IT. NO. THAT'S FUNNY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON ANYMORE, MR. MAYOR. YEAH, YEAH, I'M IN CHARGE OF THE MEETING. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THIS. HE'S GETTING THE MICROPHONE. I KNOW. BEFORE CALLING AN AUDIBLE, I'M GOING TO READ THE PROCLAMATION FROM THIS SIDE. WHAT ARE WE, ANIMALS? LET ME SEE IF THIS WAS A MUTE BUTTON FOR YOU. CITY OF MCKINNEY. PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS PROCUREMENT MONTH RECOGNIZES THE ROLE OF PROCUREMENT PROFESSIONALS, THE IMPORTANCE OF TRANSPARENCY, FAIRNESS AND EFFICIENCY IN PROCUREMENT AND THE VALUE OF PROCUREMENT IN VIABLE SOCIETIES WITHIN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, THE PROCUREMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT ENSURES COMPLIANCE WITH LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS RELATED TO PURCHASING, AND IT PROVIDES EQUAL ACCESS TO THE COMPETITIVE PROCESS FOR THE ACQUISITION OF 
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GOODS AND SERVICES TO ALL VENDORS, INCLUDING THE HISTORICALLY UNDERUTILIZED BUSINESSES. WHEREAS, THE TEXAS CONTROLLER'S TRANSPARENCY STARS PROGRAM RECOGNIZES LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FOR GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND THEIR TRANSPARENCY EFFORTS. THE CITY OF MCKINNEY IS ONE OF ONLY A FEW SELECT ENTITIES TO EARN ALL SIX STARS, AND ONE OF THE STARS FOCUSES SPECIFICALLY ON CONTRACTS AND PROCUREMENT. WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THE DEDICATED MEMBERS OF PROCUREMENT SERVICES FOR THEIR VALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE RESIDENTS OF MCKINNEY. THEREFORE, AS MAYOR OF MCKINNEY, I DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MARCH 2026 AS PROCUREMENT MONTH IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS. CONGRATULATIONS. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU, MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL, FOR PROVIDING THIS RECOGNITION OF PROCUREMENT AND THE VALUE OF THE SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE TO THE CITY. I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THIS TEAM WHOSE AMAZING TEAM THEY PROVIDE OUTSTANDING SUPPORT, NOT ONLY OUR INTERNAL DEPARTMENTS, BUT ALSO OUR VENDOR COMMUNITY AS WELL. AND THEN I WANT TO SAY WE'RE HAVING PROCUREMENT MEETING TOMORROW FROM 2 TO 4 UPSTAIRS ON THE FOURTH FLOOR. COME JOIN US FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME POPCORN AND HAVE SOME GREAT PRIZES. SO WE HOPE THAT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. SOURCED FROM SAM'S CLUB. THANK YOU. GOOD JOB. I'LL GET BACK TO WORK TO PROCURE SOMETHING. OKAY. NEXT ITEM WILL BE OUR AGENDA. 260204 THIS IS AN UPDATE ON THE 
          [Update on the Consolidated Grants Application Process for Fiscal Year 2026-27]
CONSOLIDATED GRANTS APPLICATION PROCESS FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 2027. MISS BEST. GREETINGS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I AM SHIRLEY TO BEST COMMUNITY SERVICES ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, WHERE WE ARE MANAGING OUR CITY'S FEDERAL AND LOCAL GRANTS. I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU JUST AN OVERVIEW TODAY OF OUR PROCESSES AS WE PREPARE NOT ONLY FOR FISCAL YEAR 2627, BUT WE WILL ALSO BE TALKING ABOUT SOME UPDATES THAT WILL BE ABLE TO IMPROVE EFFICIENCIES AND EFFECTIVENESS OF OUR PROGRAMS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. HOPEFULLY, I CAN START WITH CHANGING THIS. CAN YOU HELP ME OUT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. IF YOU COULD DO THAT FOR ME. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING ABLE TO APPROVE OUR PROCESSES. MANY OF YOU MAY REMEMBER LAST YEAR WE UPDATED THE FISCAL YEAR PLAN, WHICH IS KNOWN AS OUR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN, AND WE ALSO UPDATED OUR FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN EACH YEAR. WE COME BEFORE COUNCIL IN AUGUST TO BE ABLE TO APPROVE THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN WITH OUR HUD FUNDS, AND THEN WE COME BACK AFTER OUR CITY BUDGET HAS BEEN APPROVED WITH OUR CONSOLIDATED GRANT APPLICATION PROCESS, WHICH INCLUDES OUR COMMUNITY SUPPORT GRANT, WHICH IS CITY FUNDED, HUD APPROVED OUR PLAN IN SEPTEMBER, AND THEN WE ALSO HAD COUNCIL TO IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITY SUPPORT GRANT FUNDS IN OCTOBER. WE ALSO HAVE BEEN VERY FRUGAL WITH OUR FUNDS, AND WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE AN ADDITIONAL $321,000 UNDER OUR CDBG GRANT TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT FOR COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE WERE JUST REVISING OUR PROGRAM THAT WE HAD FROM SEVERAL YEARS AGO TO BE ABLE TO INCLUDE FACADE IMPROVEMENTS FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS, WHICH INCLUDES JOB TRAINING AND JOB CREATION, AND ALSO MICROENTERPRISE, AND ALSO SOME SMALL BUSINESS SUPPORT AND INFRASTRUCTURE. UNDER OUR COMMUNITY SUPPORT GRANT SIDE, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE $40,000. THAT WAS ATTRIBUTED BY THE COMMUNITY GRANTS ADVISORY COMMISSION FOR COMMUNITY LIFELINE CENTER. AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THE NEXT SLIDE, I'LL TALK ABOUT THE CHANGES THAT TAKES PLACE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR THAT WE'RE AMENDING. AND ALSO AS WE PREPARE FOR NEXT YEAR WITH FINANCIAL AMENDMENTS THAT WE'RE HAVING, WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT WE WOULD UTILIZE ALL OF THE OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO USE OUR GRANT FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND. WE HAVE THE CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO SEE OUR CITY GROW, 
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NOT ONLY FOR COMMUNITY RESOURCES IN TERMS OF PUBLIC SERVICES, BUT CDBG CAN ALSO BE USED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. IT CAN BE USED FOR LAND ACQUISITION. MANY OF YOU MAY BE AWARE OF PAST OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'VE HAD TO BE ABLE TO IMPROVE BUSINESSES. WITH FACADE. IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WE WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE LAND AND BE ABLE TO HELP SUPPORT THE STORE WINDOW TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT TO MCKINNEY. THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WE'VE HAD. 
          WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO USE OUR FUNDING FOR ELIGIBLE USES. SO WE ARE GOING TO REQUEST REMAINING ALLOCATION OF THE $402,000 FOR ELIGIBLE USES. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF OUR 2020 PANDEMIC FUNDS, WHICH IS KNOWN AS CDBG CV, THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE WITH THE WELLNESS CENTER OF OLDER ADULTS TO BE ABLE TO HELP HOMELESS ADULTS THAT ARE SENIORS, TO BE ABLE TO HELP THEM TO MOVE FORWARD IN THEIR HOUSING EFFORTS. WE ALSO SEE THAT THERE IS A TREMENDOUS NEED TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND OUR HOUSING REHABILITATION PROGRAM. 
          MANY MAY BE AWARE THAT WE HAVE HAD ONLY A FEW STAFF TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT, BUT WE KNOW THAT THE NEEDS ARE VERY GREAT. THE HOUSING REHAB PROGRAM IS VERY EXTENSIVE. IT REQUIRES A LOT OF DETAIL IN TERMS OF ENVIRONMENTAL APPROACHES, BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH OUR SMALL BUSINESSES FOR CONTRACTORS TO BE ABLE TO DO THE WORK, AND IT IS VERY HEAVY IN TERMS OF NOT ONLY PROCUREMENT BUT ALSO COMPLIANCE. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND THAT PROGRAM WHERE THAT REACH CAN ALSO INCLUDE SUBRECIPIENTS, WHICH ARE OTHER NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ALSO SKILLED IN THIS WORK, TO BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY EXPAND THE SERVICES THAT WE HAVE, BUT ALSO THE COMPLIANCE AND TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE OVERSIGHT. AND THEN ON THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT GRANT SIDE, WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO STATE THAT MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE THAT COMMUNITY LIFELINE CENTER HAS NO LONGER HAS SUNSET, SO IT NO LONGER EXISTS. IT HAS TRANSITIONED TO THE SAMARITAN IN SAMARITAN AND IS HERE TODAY. AND WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY GRANTS ADVISORY COMMISSION TO ALSO HEAR A PUBLIC HEARING TO OFFICIALLY TRANSITION THOSE FUNDS OF $40,000 TO THAT ORGANIZATION. THOSE CHANGES ARE GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE IN THIS CURRENT YEAR, AND NOW WE MOVE ON TO NEXT YEAR. WE'RE STARTING TO PREPARING WITH THE CITY, OUR STAFF. IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE ARE NOW IN OUR GRANT SEASON. WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH OVER 50 ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE APPLYING FOR FUNDS, AND COUNCIL HAD COME TO STAFF NOT LONG AGO TO SAY THAT YOU WANTED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE US EXPAND OUR COMMUNITY SUPPORT GRANT WITH CAPACITY OPPORTUNITIES. WE HAD ORGANIZATIONS WHERE THEY WERE DIRECTLY RECEIVING FUNDS THROUGH CITY COUNCIL, BUT FOR TRANSPARENCY AND ALSO FOR GREATER EFFICIENCY, WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND. SO OUR COMMUNITY GRANTS ADVISORY COMMISSION UPDATED POLICY TO BE ABLE TO CREATE A NONPROFIT CAPACITY CATEGORY. THIS CATEGORY WILL ULTIMATELY BE ABLE TO ASSIST RESIDENTS DIRECTLY. BUT MANY TIMES, AS YOU KNOW FROM YOUR EXPERIENCES, SOME ORGANIZATIONS DO NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. THERE ARE SMALL ORGANIZATIONS AND THEY NEED TO GROW. SOMETIMES THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR LEAVES AND THEY NEED TO REEVALUATE THEIR SERVICES AND THEIR STRENGTHS. SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND WHERE AT LEAST ONE OR MORE ORGANIZATIONS WILL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE UP TO $75,000. THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE IT FOR FUND DEVELOPMENT OR ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIVITIES OR POLITICAL, BUT TRULY TO BE ABLE TO BUILD CAPACITY, WHETHER THAT IS TECHNOLOGY, CYBERSECURITY, WHETHER IT IS TO ASSIST WITH TRAINING FOR THEIR AGENCIES AND THEIR VOLUNTEERS, OR FOR GOVERNANCE. ALL OF THESE ARE VERY CRITICAL THAT WILL BE ABLE TO FURTHER ENHANCE NOT ONLY THE ORGANIZATION FOR SUSTAINABILITY, BUT ALSO TO BETTER SERVE OUR RESIDENTS. AND SO THESE ARE JUST THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE. WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT, AND WE KNOW THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD TOWARD THE ORGANIZATION DEADLINES OF OUR GRANTS, THAT WE'LL HAVE A STRONGER, MORE VIBRANT ORGANIZATION BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE GRANT MANAGEMENT AND SUPPORT AND TO BE ABLE TO BETTER SERVE OUR RESIDENTS. I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. JULIE, THAT'S A LOT OF WORK AND I SAY THIS EVERY YEAR, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO. YOU DO A LOT FOR THE CITY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? THANK 
          [Consider/Discuss Glen Oaks Drive and Ridge Road Intersection Traffic Control]
YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. NEXT 26-0206 CONSIDERED GLEN OAKS DRIVE AND RIDGE ROAD. 
          INTERSECTION TRAFFIC CONTROL. MR. GRAHAM. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE 
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GLEN OAKS DRIVE AND RIDGE ROAD INTERSECTION. IT'S A PROJECT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT FOR MANY YEARS, AND WE WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AND ULTIMATELY GET DIRECTION FROM THIS BODY ON HOW TO PROCEED. OKAY. FIRST, GET EVERYBODY ORIENTED WHERE WE'RE AT. SO GLEN OAKS DRIVE TRAVERSES FROM STONEBRIDGE DRIVE OVER TO LAKE FOREST, AND RIDGE IS IN THE MIDDLE THERE. 
          GLEN OAKS IS AN ARTERIAL, BUT IT REALLY DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE. IT JUST REALLY SERVES THE HEART OF THE STONEBRIDGE COMMUNITY. THERE FOUR LANES IN EACH OR TWO LANES EACH DIRECTION, FOUR LANE ROADWAY. SAME FOR RIDGE AND GLEN OAKS. I MENTIONED THIS HAS BEEN ON ON OUR RADAR FOR A WHILE, SO WE FIRST GOT RECEIVED CITIZEN COMPLAINTS PROBABLY BACK IN 2016 ABOUT THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS HAPPENING OUT THERE. AND SO WE DID SOME INVESTIGATION, STARTED TO LOOK AT WHAT POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS COULD WE DO OUT THERE. THIS WAS ALSO THE SAME TIME WE WERE STARTING TO CONSIDER ROUNDABOUTS ON OUR ARTERIALS AS A COMMUNITY. SO IN 2017, WE PLANNED AND BUDGETED FOR A AN EVALUATION TO LOOK AT ALL INTERSECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND DETERMINE WHICH LOCATIONS WOULD BE GOOD, FEASIBLE FITS FOR ROUNDABOUTS. 
          AND SO IN 28, 2019, WE HAD THAT CONSULTANT DO THAT WORK FOR US. AND LO AND BEHOLD, HE IDENTIFIED THIS INTERSECTION AS A GREAT CANDIDATE FOR A ROUNDABOUT. SO MOVING OUT OF THAT STUDY, WE SAID, OKAY, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S DO AN IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS OF THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION. SO WHAT WE DID IS CALLED AN INTERSECTION CONTROL EVALUATION REPORT, ICE REPORT. AND SO THAT LOOKS AT ALL THE VARIOUS TYPES OF TRAFFIC CONTROL THAT COULD BE OPERATED AT A SIGNAL FOUR WAY STOP. I SAID TRAFFIC LIGHT INTERSECTION FOUR WAY STOP AT A SIGNAL OR A ROUNDABOUT AND LOOKS AT CRASH HISTORY, LOOKS AT HOW, WHAT, WHAT TYPES OF CRASHES ARE HAPPENING THERE? WHICH INTERSECTION CONTROL TYPE WOULD MITIGATE THOSE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE? WHAT LOOKS AT THE CAPACITY OF EACH TYPE OF INTERSECTION? WHICH ONE CAN HANDLE THE PROJECTED VOLUMES BOTH TODAY AND IN THE FUTURE? AND SO THE END REPORT OR FINDINGS OF THE REPORT WAS A ROUNDABOUT WAS RECOMMENDED. SO WE CONSULTED OR WE CONTRACTED WITH THAT ENGINEER, PUT A SCOPE AND FEE TOGETHER. WE BROUGHT THAT TO THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR APPROVAL IN AUGUST OF 2020 OR EXCUSE ME, JULY OF 22. BUT THERE WAS SOME RESIDENT OPPOSITION, THE STONEBRIDGE HOA. THEY HAD REACHED OUT, THEY HAD SOME CONCERNS. SO ULTIMATELY THE COUNCIL DECIDED NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONTRACT. AT THAT TIME, THEY ASKED STAFF TO GET WITH THE HOA BOARD. SO WE WENT AND MET WITH THEM AND THE FOLLOWING NOVEMBER TOOK SOME PRESENTATION MATERIAL TO THEM. IT KIND OF HAD A DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, WHAT WERE THEIR CONCERNS? THEY ULTIMATELY DIDN'T HAVE GREAT FEEDBACK ON ROUNDABOUTS FROM THEIR PAST EXPERIENCE. THERE AREN'T VERY MANY ROUNDABOUTS WITHIN STONEBRIDGE ITSELF, SO IT'S KIND OF A NEW CONCEPT FOR THEM. THERE ALSO WEREN'T ANY MULTI-LANE ROUNDABOUTS ANYWHERE IN THE CITY, SO THAT WAS SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS. WE CAME BACK, WE MET WITH COUNCIL INDIVIDUALLY IN 2023 TO KIND OF GET A PULSE ON HOW WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD. AT THAT SAME TIME, WE WERE FINISHING UP THAT FIRST ROUNDABOUT AT RIDGE AND WILMOTH, AND THEN WE HAD THE OTHER ROUNDABOUTS PLANNED FOR LAKE FOREST, TAYLOR, BURKE AND HARDIN ON WILMOTH. AND SO THE COUNCIL'S RECOMMENDATION CONSENSUS WAS, LET'S WAIT UNTIL THE WILMOTH CORRIDOR IS BUILT. 
          LET'S COME BACK AND REEVALUATE THAT AFTER THAT'S BEEN OPERATING FOR SOME TIME TO SEE IF THOSE ARE GOOD SOLUTIONS. SO BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING AT THAT INTERSECTION. THERE CONTINUE TO BE ACCIDENTS. AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT HERE IN A SECOND. AND SO IN MARCH OF 2024, WE WENT TO THE STOP SIGNS AND WE REPLACED SOME OF THEM WITH RED LEDS, LED LIGHTS ON THE CORNERS OF OF THE INTERSECTION. SO TO GIVE THE DRIVERS AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT OF WARNING, HEY, WE KNOW YOU SEE THE STOP SIGN UP THERE, BUT WE'RE REALLY TELLING YOU THERE'S A STOP SIGN. WE'VE GOT THESE FLASHING RED LIGHT ON THE STOP SIGN. FAST FORWARD ANOTHER TO 2023. WE THE ROUNDABOUT OPENED AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AROUND Q1 2025, THE THE LAKE FOREST OR LAKE FOREST, TAYLOR, BURKE AND HART INTERSECTIONS ALL OPENED. AND SO THOSE HAVE BEEN OPEN FOR ABOUT A YEAR. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OF THAT RESULTS. AND THEN THAT LEADS US TO TODAY WHERE WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME DIRECTION ON HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. SO SOME OF THESE EXISTING CONDITIONS. SO BACK IN 2016 IS WHEN WE FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS. 
          AND WHEN WE GET A REQUEST FROM A CITIZEN OR A GROUP OF CITIZENS ABOUT CONCERNS, WE ALWAYS GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE LAST THREE YEARS. WE WANT TO HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF PATTERNS ARE HAPPENING AT THIS INTERSECTION. IS THIS AN ISOLATED OCCURRENCE BECAUSE OF SOME SORT OF POINT CONDITION, OR IS THIS IS THIS A PATTERN? AND SO WE WENT BACK AND WE STARTED LOOKING FROM 2014. AND YOU CAN SEE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CRASHES SIX AND 2014. IT GOES DOWN IN 20 1516 IT SPIKES. BUT THEN 17 THROUGH 2022 CONSISTENT 4 OR 5 CRASHES PER YEAR. AGAIN, 
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IT SPIKES IN 2023, AGAIN AT 824 AND 25 THREE EACH YEAR. AND THEN THIS YEAR, WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER THE PRESENTATION, WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS YEAR'S DATA. IT WASN'T AVAILABLE FOR US TO USE. WE'VE SINCE GONE BACK AND LOOKED. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S BEEN ONE SO FAR TO DATE HAPPENED IN FEBRUARY. SO WE'VE GOT 53 TOTAL CRASHES OVER THIS, YOU KNOW, 13 YEAR PERIOD, 12 YEAR PERIOD, WHATEVER THAT IS. AND 19 OF THOSE CRASHES INVOLVED INJURY. SO MAYBE TWO POINTS HERE IS ONE ON A TOTAL CRASHES. THOSE ARE ONLY REPORTED CRASHES. SO IF THERE WAS A FENDER BENDER AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DID NOT WRITE A ACCIDENT REPORT, WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT CRASH HAPPENED OR NOT. SO THERE COULD BE MORE OUT THERE. SO YOU MAY HEAR FROM SOME CONSTITUENTS THAT IT'S WORSE THAN 53. ALSO, THE INJURY CRASHES ARE GENERALLY THE POLICE OFFICER RESPONDING. THEY ASK, DO YOU NEED ANY MEDICAL CARE IF THEY DECLINE AT THE TIME AND EVERYBODY DRIVES OFF? THAT MAY NOT BE REPORTED AS A INJURY CRASH. BUT WE DO KNOW THERE WERE 19 OF THOSE 53. SO THAT'S 35. OVER 35% OF THE CRASHES HAVE INJURIES. THAT'S QUITE A FEW. THAT'S MORE THAN WE TYPICALLY HAVE AT LOCATIONS. SO THIS IS REALLY A CONCERN FOR US. ON THE RIGHT HAND WE'VE GOT SIDE OF THE SLIDE. WE'VE GOT EXISTING TRAFFIC VOLUMES. YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THE BULK OF THE VOLUMES ON GLEN OAKS. I MEAN EXCUSE ME ON, ON ON RIDGE. 
          WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF VOLUME ON ON GLEN OAKS, ABOUT 22,000 VEHICLES PER DAY. GOING BACK TO THE CRASHES. AS WE LOOK THROUGH THIS, WHEN WE GET THOSE REQUESTS, WE PREPARE WHAT'S CALLED A COLLISION DIAGRAM. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. WE PLOT EVERY ACCIDENT RECORDED ACCIDENT AND WE PUT WHO'S AT FAULT. WHAT DIRECTIONS DOES IT INVOLVE? WHERE WHERE IN THE INTERSECTION DOES IT HAPPEN? SO WE CAN START TO SEE A PATTERN OR SEE IF THERE ARE ANY PATTERNS. AND THERE'S A CLEAR PATTERN HERE OF THESE CRASHES. YOU SEE A MAJORITY OF THEM ARE HAPPENING AT THAT WHERE SOMEBODY IS NOT STOPPING EITHER ONE DIRECTION OR THE OTHER. AND WHAT'S CLEAR IS IT'S NOT IT'S JUST IT'S THE FOUR WAY STOP. UNFORTUNATELY, OUR DRIVERS JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE A FOUR WAY STOP WHEN THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THERE, THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD. WHEN THERE'S NO ONE ELSE THERE, THEY CAN COME TO A COMPLETE STOP, OF COURSE, AND THEN MOVE ON. BUT WHEN YOU GET MULTIPLE DRIVERS THERE, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S MULTI LANES, DRIVERS TEND TO HAVE TROUBLE. AS I MENTIONED, WE ALSO LOOK AT CAPACITY ANALYSIS. 
          HOW WILL THESE INTERSECTIONS, HOW WOULD IT INTERSECTION FUND OR FUNCTION UNDER DIFFERENT TYPES OF TRAFFIC CONTROL. SO WE LOOK AT AN ALWAYS STOP CONTROL ON THE LEFT, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN THE MIDDLE AND THE ROUNDABOUT. THIS IS FROM THE ICE REPORT THAT WE DID BACK IN 2019. AND SO THE ALWAYS STOP CONTROL, THIS IS THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          WE TREAT IT LIKE A GRADE CARD. A IS THE BEST EFS THE WORST. THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DELAYS PER VEHICLE THAT WE AVERAGE OUT THAT WE HAVE AN INDUSTRY STANDARD SAYS IF THERE'S THIS MANY SECONDS OF DELAY, IT'S THIS LEVEL OF SERVICE. ALWAYS STOP CONTROL IN THE MORNING DOESN'T OPERATE TOO BAD. AND THE IN THE EVENING, WHEN YOU START TO SEE THOSE VEHICLES STARTING TO QUEUE UP, ESPECIALLY ON RIDGE GOING NORTH SOUTH, WE START TO SEE THAT OPERATION GET INTO UNACCEPTABLE LEVELS OF SERVICE. IF YOU LOOK AT OUR TRAFFIC SIGNAL. THERE'S JUST A LOT OF LOST TIME WITH TRAFFIC SIGNALS WE'RE ALL AWARE OF. WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH, YOU, YOU, YOU'RE HAVING TO WAIT FOR THAT SIDE. YOU'RE SHARING TIME WITH OTHER MOVEMENTS. AND SO IT'S JUST NOT AN EFFICIENT WAY TO MOVE, MOVE PEOPLE. AND SO IT HAS SIMILAR LEVEL OF SERVICE. 
          THERE'S DIFFERENT CRITERIA BETWEEN STOP CONTROL AND SIGNALS. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE BOTH C AND D. AND THEN YOU HAVE ROUNDABOUT. THERE'S JUST CONTINUOUS FLOW OF TRAFFIC. 
          YOU'RE ABLE TO MERGE AND AND MOVE TRAFFIC THROUGH. YOU'RE HAVING LESS DELAY PER VEHICLE. 
          AND THEN ALSO WHEN YOU LOOK AT 2040, YOU CAN SEE THAT THOSE THOSE PATTERNS CONTINUE EVEN WHEN WE HAVE HIGHER TRAFFIC VOLUMES AS THE CITY CONTINUES TO GROW. SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT SIGNAL AND ROUNDABOUT BENEFITS. WE'LL START WITH ROUNDABOUT BENEFITS. WE KNOW THERE'S THE STATISTICS. WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE SAFER THAN TRAFFIC SIGNALS. THEY HAVE LOWER SPEEDS GOING THROUGH THE INTERSECTIONS. THERE'S FEWER CONFLICT POINTS. SO WHEN CRASHES DO HAPPEN, THEY'RE LESS SEVERE. THERE'S LESS OPPORTUNITY FOR CRASHES BECAUSE YOU THINK ABOUT A TRADITIONAL INTERSECTION EVERY TIME, EVERY LOCATION WHERE A CAR COULD CROSS ANOTHER CAR'S PATH, THE STRAIGHT THROUGH THE LEFT TURNS TWO CARS TURNING LEFT AT THE SAME TIME. YOU ADD THOSE MULTIPLE LANES. THERE'S A LOT MORE COLLISION POINTS, CONFLICT POINTS THAT COULD HAPPEN THAN IN ROUNDABOUT. YOU'RE STARTING TO LIMIT WHERE THOSE DIFFERENT MOVEMENTS CAN HAPPEN. THERE'S LOWER OPERATIONAL COSTS, LOWER COST TO THE CITY. YOU'RE NOT MAINTAINING SIGNAL COSTS. THERE'S LESS EQUIPMENT TO MAINTAIN ALL THOSE FACTOR INTO THAT LOWER OPERATIONAL COST. AS I MENTIONED A SECOND AGO, THERE'S CONTINUOUS TRAFFIC FLOW WHICH RESULTS IN LOWER EMISSIONS. WE HAVE REDUCED NOISE TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS. WE HAVE SHORTER QUEUES DURING THE AM AND PM PEAKS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE CONTINUOUSLY MOVING AND 
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THEN WAY MORE EFFICIENT DURING OFF PEAK OPERATION. YOU THINK ABOUT A SIGNAL DURING THE EVENINGS WHEN THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CARS, YOU'RE ON THAT MAIN STREET AND SOMEONE COMES UP ON THE SIDE STREET AND IT TURNS RED FOR YOU, SO YOU'RE STOPPING EVEN ON YOUR MAIN STREET. THOSE DELAYS, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT WITH WITH ROUNDABOUT OPERATION. AND THEN LASTLY, MORE ESTHETIC. 
          YOU THINK ABOUT THE CENTRAL ISLAND AND THE OPPORTUNITIES TO EITHER DO A MONUMENT OR LANDSCAPING IN THOSE AND REALLY ADD TO THE BEAUTY OF THE STONEBRIDGE COMMUNITY IN THIS LOCATION. SIGNALS. THERE'S BENEFITS WITH SIGNALS TOO. FIRST OFF, THERE'S A LOWER CONSTRUCTION COST. IT DOES NOT TAKE AS MUCH TO CONSTRUCT. YOU'RE GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND JUST USE THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT YOU HAVE AND ADD THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS A LOT FASTER TO GET CONSTRUCTED, LESS IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY ON THAT GENERALLY TAKE LESS RIGHT AWAY. MOST OF THE PROPOSED DESIGN FITS IN THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY. FOR A ROUNDABOUT, THERE WOULD BE SOME ACQUISITION HERE. WE HAVEN'T LAID OUT A SIGNAL AT THIS LOCATION, BUT WE THINK GENERALLY IT'S ALL GOING TO FIT WITHIN THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY. THERE MAY BE A SMALL CORNER CLIP WE NEED, BUT THEN IT ALSO MAY INCREASE TRAFFIC VOLUMES. WHEN YOU PUT THAT SIGNAL UP, IT KIND OF IS THAT SIGNAL TO PEOPLE. THIS IS A THROUGH STREET. THIS MAY DRAW MORE TRAFFIC THROUGH THAT PORTION OF OF OF THE CITY. THAT MAY AVOID EITHER THE FOUR WAY STOP OR THE ROUNDABOUT. LET'S SWITCH OVER TO THE ROUNDABOUTS. SO MOVING FROM LEFT TO RIGHT ALONG THE CORRIDOR RIDGE ROAD THAT OPENED IN Q3 OF 2023, LESS VOLUMES OVER THERE BECAUSE GENERALLY THERE'S NOT AS MUCH DEVELOPMENT OVER THAT PORTION OF THE CITY YET. IT'S COMING AND WE'LL START TO SEE THOSE VOLUMES INCREASE. BUT NO CRASHES REPORTED YET. MOVE OVER LAKE FOREST, A LITTLE BIT HIGHER VOLUMES. WE GOT A LOT MORE DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PAINTED TREE AND 1461 THAT GOES UP AND TO THE EAST OR EXCUSE ME, TO THE WEST, FURTHER NORTH FOR FOR NON-INJURY CRASHES. ONE MINOR INJURY CRASH. I DON'T KNOW THE STATISTICS OF THOSE. WHAT INVOLVED THOUGH I APOLOGIZE. MOVE OVER AGAIN TO THE EAST. WE'VE GOT TAYLOR BURKE A LITTLE BIT LOWER VOLUMES AGAIN ZERO CRASHES AT THIS ONE AND THEN BACK OVER AT HARDEN. HARDEN THE VOLUME STARTS TO INCREASE. YOU'VE GOT ACCESS OVER TO MCKINNEY NORTH HIGH SCHOOL. SO YOU GET A LOT OF SCHOOL TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE. SO THIS ONE WAS ACTUALLY ENCOURAGING TO ME. SEE LESS NOT SEE MANY CRASHES THERE BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS WE HAVE GOING THROUGH THAT LOCATION. BUT AGAIN THE VOLUMES ARE A BIT HIGHER, BUT TWO NON-INJURY CRASHES. SO THAT BRINGS US TO WHERE WE ARE ASKING FOR DIRECTION FROM FROM YOU ALL ROUNDABOUT. IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT $2.5 MILLION COST. IT'S GOING TO TAKE LONGER TO CONSTRUCT. INCLUDES RECONSTRUCTING ALL THE PAVEMENT IN THE MIDDLE. SOME OF THE APPROACHES SIGNALS ONLY 850,000. SO DEFINITELY A CHEAPER OPTION. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS A ROUNDABOUT. WE THINK IT'S THE RIGHT SOLUTION. WE THINK ULTIMATELY IT'S A SUCCESS HERE. 
          AND THEN YOU END UP DOING LAKE FOREST AND ALSO STONEBRIDGE AND ROUNDABOUTS ALSO IN THE FUTURE. 
          EXCUSE ME. WITH THAT I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS. LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL. DO WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A ROUNDABOUT OR DO WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL? THERE ARE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. YOU INCLUDED VEHICLE CRASHES, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA ON PEDESTRIAN INJURIES AT THAT INTERSECTION? SO THERE'S NOT MUCH PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY UP AT WELLMOUTH RIGHT NOW. SO I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY. GENERALLY, WHEN WE LOOK AT ALL THE CRASH DATA, IT IS NOT JUST VEHICLES, IT VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, IT IS ANY CRASHES THAT ARE REPORTED AT INTERSECTION. AND SO I'M GOING TO GO OUT ON A LIMB AND SAY THERE HAVE BEEN NO PEDESTRIAN ACCIDENTS AT EITHER LOCATION AT GLEN OAKS AND RIDGE OR ALONG THE CORRIDOR. DO YOU HAVE INFORMATION ON SAFETY BETWEEN A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND A ROUNDABOUT FOR PEDESTRIANS? SO ALL THE STATISTICS WE'VE SEEN EVERYWHERE SHOW THAT A ROUNDABOUT IS A, A, A SAFER OPERATION. SO AT A ROUNDABOUT, THE WAY IT'S DESIGNED, AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT IN THIS GRAPHIC THAT'S ON THE SCREEN, IF I'M SAY, LET'S SAY THIS IS THE SOUTH EAST CORNER OF RIDGE AND GLEN OAKS, AND I WANT TO GO TO THE WEST SIDE HERE. I'M GOING TO GO UP TO THAT CROSSWALK THERE. I'M GOING TO LOOK TO THE SOUTH AND LOOK FOR TRAFFIC ON RIDGE. SEE THAT THERE'S A GAP. AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT IT'S DESIGNED THAT THE. THERE'S ONE. SO YOU ALLOW THE CAR TO STOP AT THE YIELD SIGN. THEN THERE'S A SPOT FOR TRAFFIC TO THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC TO CROSS BEHIND. SO YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, SO IF YOU ONCE YOU LET THAT CAR PASS, THEY'RE YIELDING TAKING CARE OF THE ROUNDABOUT. SO THEY'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE PEDESTRIAN AT THAT POINT. 
          YOU CROSS TO THAT SPLITTER ISLAND. WE CALL IN THE MIDDLE THE SPLITTER ISLAND. NOW YOU'RE LOOKING BACK INTO THE ROUNDABOUT AND YOU'RE JUDGING TRAFFIC COMING ON FROM THE WEST ON GLEN OAKS, OR YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE TRAFFIC COMING AROUND ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROUNDABOUT FROM THE RIDGE AREA, AND YOU'RE EVALUATING THAT ONE GAP, AND THEN YOU'RE MAKING THAT SMALL CROSS CROSSING MANEUVER THERE. SO ALL THE STATISTICS SHOW SAY THAT IT'S A 
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MUCH SAFER CROSSING THAN A TRAFFIC SIGNAL. CONSTRUCTION TIME BETWEEN THE SIGNAL VERSUS THE ROUNDABOUT. GREAT QUESTION. IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT. SO WE ARE WE HAVEN'T PROGRESSED AND PUT ANY PLANS TOGETHER. SO WE HAVE NOT THOUGHT THROUGH THIS FULLY. OUR INITIAL THOUGHT IS WE WOULD TRY TO CLOSE THE INTERSECTION COMPLETELY TO ALL TRAFFIC DURING THE SUMMER. ONCE THE SCHOOL IS CLOSED, AND THEN DO AS MUCH CONSTRUCTION AS WE CAN DURING THAT SUMMER TIME FRAME. NOW WE NEED TO VISIT WITH SOME CONTRACTORS AND SEE WHAT'S ACTUALLY FEASIBLE OR NOT. 
          AND WHAT YOU MAY HAVE HAPPEN IS WHEN THE SCHOOL OPENS IN THE FALL, WE MAYBE HAVE A LIMITED OPERATION OF THAT INTERSECTION IF IT'S NOT FULLY COMPLETE AT THAT TIME, BUT WE'RE GUESSTIMATING SIX MONTHS TO OR SO TO BUILD THIS ROUNDABOUT AT THIS TIME, WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH ON THAT TO GET A FIRM NUMBER. THE ROUNDABOUT, I MEAN A TRAFFIC SIGNAL. IT'S GOING TO TAKE US PROBABLY A MONTH AND A HALF TO CONSTRUCT. YOU'RE GOING TO GO OUT THERE, PUT THE POLES IN AND THEN RUN ALL THE WIRE, YOU KNOW, AND VERY LIMITED IMPACT TO THE TRAVELING PUBLIC. THIS WILL DEFINITELY IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE TRAVELING PUBLIC TO, TO CONSTRUCT WITH A ROUNDABOUT. AND DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA ON THE MAINTENANCE COST OF A SIGNAL VERSUS A ROUNDABOUT LIKE OVER LONG TERM? SO OVER THE LONG TERM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT PAYING FOR THE EQUIPMENT COSTS FOR A SIGNAL, YOU'RE NOT PAYING FOR POWER, YOU'RE NOT PAYING FOR THE LABOR TO GO OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH THE, THE ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THE SIGNAL. YOU KNOW, IF IF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS HIT OR, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE THE OPERATION, YOU KNOW, GOES DOWN, THAT'S A HUGE COST. I DON'T HAVE EXACT NUMBERS, BUT GENERALLY IT'S, IT'S AN ACCEPTED PRACTICE. THAT SIGNAL IS QUITE A BIT MORE EXPENSIVE TO OPERATE OVER THE LIFE OF THE EQUIPMENT VERSUS THE ROUNDABOUT. I MEAN, THIS ONE WILL BE CONSTRUCTING ALL THE NEW PAVEMENT. SO AS SOON AS WE WALK AWAY, THIS SHOULD HAVE A GOOD 30 YEAR LIFESPAN FOR THE NEW ROUNDABOUT THAT'S CONSTRUCTED. THANK YOU GARY. THE CURRENT SLIDE VERSUS SEVEN. 
          SLIDE SEVEN. SLIDE SEVEN SHOWS A SINGLE LANE GOING AROUND. AND THEN THIS ONE HERE. YEAH THAT SHOWS A SINGLE. AND THEN THE ONE YOU WERE ADDRESSING. THE LAST ONE SHOWS TWO LANES GOING AROUND. THAT MAY JUST BE AN AI GENERATED. SO THIS ONE, THEY BOTH SHOW A SINGLE LANE ON THE SOUTH SIDE. ON THE NORTH SIDE, IT'S TWO LANES. WE LOOKED AT THE EXISTING TRAFFIC PATTERNS. 
          AND SO OUR CONSULTANT WHEN THEY DEVELOPED THIS, THEY HAD WOULD HAVE TWO LANES GOING WESTBOUND ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROUNDABOUT, BUT ONLY NEEDS ONE LANE TO MAKE THAT EITHER FOR THE LEFT AND THE THROUGH GOING ON THE SOUTH SIDE. SO IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT EXACT COPY COPY OF WHAT HAPPENED AT WILMUTH WHERE YOU HAVE TWO CIRCULATING LANES THE WHOLE WAY. THIS IS A MODIFICATION BASED ON WHAT OUR CONSULTANT THOUGHT WITH THE TRAVEL, THE TRAVEL PATTERNS AND TRAFFIC VOLUMES. RIGHT. OKAY. GARY, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS AND BOTH OF THEM DEAL WITH POTENTIAL WISDOM. SO YOU MAY NOT HAVE AN ANSWER ON EITHER OF THEM, BUT I'D LOVE ONE AT SOME POINT IF WE MOVE DOWN THIS PATH. NUMBER ONE IS. I WOULD GATHER THAT THIS INTERSECTION CURRENTLY IS 25 TO 30 YEARS OLD. I DON'T KNOW, IT'S GOT TO BE SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT. WOULD THERE BE WISDOM TO TO US SINCE WE'RE IN THERE DOING THE WORK REPLACING WATER AND SEWER? PROBABLY TOO EARLY, BUT JUST SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO TEAR THIS THING UP IN ANOTHER DECADE OR SO. DEFINITELY. IF THERE ARE UTILITIES THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED, WE HAVE THE PAVEMENT TORN UP. WE WILL BE DOING THAT. YES. OKAY. AND THIS IS SOMETHING CAMP WHEN I WAS TALKING TO MR. GRIMES HERE, BUT SO OFTEN IN CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH FRANCHISE UTILITIES. THEY HOLD US BACK. WOULD THERE BE WISDOM IN DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS? THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO DO THE FRANCHISE UTILITIES. AND THEN NEXT YEAR, ONCE ALL THAT'S DONE AND THEY'RE OUT OF OUR WAY, WE WOULD ACTUALLY DO THE CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WOULD BE THE APPROACH WE WOULD TAKE. WE WOULD USE THIS NEXT YEAR TO GET THE DESIGN DONE. WE'D HAVE, I DON'T THINK WE COULD DO THE DESIGN, GET THE UTILITIES RELOCATION RELOCATED. 
          AND THEN BY THE SUMMER OF 27, BE READY TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION. SO WE'D HAVE THAT EXTRA YEAR TO FINISH UP ALL THE UTILITY RELOCATIONS, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS OUT OF THE WAY. 
          SO WE'RE READY TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING THAT SUMMER OF 28. OKAY. AND THEN WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT TODAY, BUT I THINK MR. BANNISTER'S REMARK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVE METHODS TO GET AROUND? MAN, I SURE DON'T KNOW HIM. I'VE NEVER LIVED IN STONEBRIDGE, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO LITIGATE AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO GIVE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, HEY, HERE'S WHAT YOU DO, SOME ALTERNATIVE WAYS TO GET AROUND THIS AREA. WE WOULD SET UP A FORMAL DETOUR PLAN, YOU KNOW, SO PEOPLE ON THE OUTSKIRTS KNOW NOT TO COME UP THIS WAY IF THEY'RE TRYING TO GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, SO DOWN AT LAKE FOREST IN EL DORADO OR AT LAKE FOREST IN VIRGINIA, EXCUSE ME, RIDGE AND, AND EL DORADO RIDGE IN VIRGINIA, AND THEN EITHER AT LAKE FOREST AND GLEN OAKS AND STONEBRIDGE. DON'T COME DOWN THIS WAY TO GO THROUGH TRAFFIC. 
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RIGHT? IT'S GOING TO BE LOCAL TRAFFIC. ONLY THOSE LOCAL RESIDENTS, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A GOOD IDEA. EVERYBODY CARRIES A MAP IN THEIR IN THEIR POCKET. NOW THAT TELLS THEM HOW TO GET THROUGH. WE WE POST THE ROAD CLOSURES IN THAT. SO THOSE THOSE MAPPING SERVICES KNOW WHEN A ROAD'S CLOSED. SO THEY'LL BE ROUTING PEOPLE. BUT WE WOULD DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO LIMIT THE IMPACTS TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND, YOU KNOW, PUT A FULL DETOUR PLAN TOGETHER. 
          THAT'S GREAT. THEN JUST ONE REMARK, JUST FOR CONTEXT, YOU KNOW, I WAS PART OF THE COUNCIL THAT THAT PUT A DEFERRAL ON THIS. AND I MADE THE REMARKS THAT I WANTED TO SEE HOW THE COMMUNITY MITIGATED THE ROUNDABOUTS ON WILMOTH AND HOW THAT WENT. AND IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL. SO I REMAIN THINKING THIS IS THE BEST LONG TERM PLAN. I REMAIN THINKING, I WISH I COULD BEAM IT DOWN TOMORROW AND NOT CLOSE DOWN THE TRAFFIC. BUT YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT THE THE RESULTS ON WILMOTH SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES IN TERMS OF SAFETY, WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT ON THIS. YEAH. GARY, THIS IS A LARGER FOOTPRINT, YOU SAID, THAN THE FOUR WAY STOP CREATES A LARGER FOOTPRINT. YEAH, IT WOULD IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT LARGER FOOTPRINT THAN THE FOUR WAY STOP, BUT SHOULD FIT MOSTLY IN THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY. RIGHT. 
          IT WOULDN'T AFFECT I MEAN, THIS INTERSECTION HAS GOT PEDESTRIAN TUNNELS AT IT AS WELL. CORRECT. 
          THE KIND OF WIDENING OR THE WAY THIS KIND OF IT WOULD NOT IMPACT WOULDN'T IMPACT ANY OF THOSE. THOSE WOULD STILL REMAIN, BUT YOU WOULD JUST NOW HAVE WHAT WE FEEL A SAFER CROSSING AT SURFACE LEVEL. YEAH. OKAY. I GOT A BORDERLINE JOKING REQUEST. BUT THE CENTER OF THESE THINGS, LIKE FILLING THEM WITH LANDSCAPING, SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF MAINTENANCE THAT WE CREATE. 
          I KNOW THAT IT BEAUTIFIES THEM AND MAYBE STONEBRIDGE TAKES THAT ON, BUT WE PUT A, YOU KNOW, LIKE A SCULPTURE OVER HERE. WE'RE PUTTING SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE OF THESE THINGS BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US TO REDUCE THE THE AND AND I'LL MAKE A SUGGESTION ON WHAT THAT COULD BE IN MY OUR ONGOING ISSUES WITH FINDING CELL TOWERS, PUTTING OBELISKS IN THESE THINGS AND, AND KIND OF HIDDEN CELL TOWERS IN THE MIDDLE OF THESE THINGS. YEAH. SO CERTAINLY PUTTING LANDSCAPING OR EVEN MONUMENTS IN THERE IS ENCOURAGED AS YOU'RE APPROACHING IT FROM A DRIVER'S PERSPECTIVE, YOU DON'T SEE THROUGH, IT'S GIVING YOU THAT VISUAL CLUE. I NEED TO SLOW DOWN, RIGHT, AND MAKE THE MANEUVERS. AND SO YES, WE, WE, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT DOING THAT AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS. WE HAVE NOT PUT THEM IN AS PART OF OUR DESIGN PACKAGE. WE WANT TO WORK WITH PARKS. AND YOU KNOW, THE ONES ON WILMOTH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS PAINTED TREE GOING TO ACTUALLY BE A PARTNER WITH THOSE OR NOT? YOU KNOW, AND SO THIS ONE, WE WOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH STONEBRIDGE ON WHAT ULTIMATELY GOES IN THERE, WHO WOULD BE MAINTAINING IT. THEY ALREADY TAKE CARE OF A LOT OF THE MAINTENANCE ON THE THE THE MEDIANS ALREADY. WE WOULD BE A PARTNERSHIP THERE. YEAH. I DID RECEIVE A COMMENT FROM A SOMEONE WHO LIVES ALONG WILMOTH WHO TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUST SOME, SOME VISUAL ENHANCEMENT ON THOSE THAT THEY WOULD APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE IT IS, IT IS KIND OF BARREN LOOKING. YES, OF COURSE, A LOT OF LANDSCAPING HASN'T COME IN, COME IN YET, BUT YEAH, YEAH, I'M GOING TO DISAGREE WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT ON THE CELL TOWER IDEA. I THINK I'VE ALWAYS BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR HAVING SOME PIECE OF ARTWORK IN THE CENTER OF ALL OF THESE ROUNDABOUTS, NOT JUST AT THIS INTERSECTION, BUT ALL OF THEM. I LOVE THE VISUAL COMING DOWNTOWN AS YOU CROSS OVER HIGHWAY FIVE AND YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF ART THERE. I THINK SOMETHING THAT IS FITTING FOR THE STONEBRIDGE AREA IN THE CENTER OF THIS ROUNDABOUT IS FAR MORE APPROPRIATE IN MY IN MY OPINION, I WAS TALKING SOMETHING LIKE A LUXOR OBELISK OR SOMETHING LIKE A, LIKE A DESIGNED PIECE OF ARTWORK, A WASHINGTON MONUMENT IN HONOR OF COUNCIL OR SOMETHING. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THERE YOU GO. CELEBRATING ALL YOUR CONQUESTS. THAT'S CONTROLLING. THAT'S A GOOD ONE. THERE ARE CERTAIN LIMITATIONS WE CAN AND CAN'T DO IN THERE. 
          BUT YES, POINT TAKEN. WE NEED TO WORK ON THOSE. I KNOW WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE WE HAVE TO MAKE FINAL DECISIONS ON THAT, BUT I THINK COUNCILMAN BELLER MADE THE DECISION. I KIND OF LIKE. THANK YOU. SO IS THAT CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A ROUNDABOUT? YES. MY CONCERN IS THE FOOT TRAFFIC. AND I KNOW THIS IS JUST A RENDERING, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AND IF YOU WANTED TO PICK IT APART, SIDEWALKS DON'T LINE UP WITH STRIPING. AND IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT IS A SMOOTH FLOW. BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING TO POUND ON THE DESK ON OR TO SAY NO WAY, NO HOW, BUT THAT THAT IS A CONCERN. AND LOOKING AT WHAT WHAT WE'VE BEEN PRESENTED, YOU MEAN HOW THEY HAVE TO WALK AROUND THE INTERSECTION TO GO BACK? SO THE CROSSWALK IS JUST OFF THE PAGE HERE. WELL, TO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PAGE UNDER GLEN OAKS, YOU CAN SEE THE STRIPING. DOES IT LINE UP WITH THE SIDEWALK? THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE. MR. MAYOR. WOULD IT BE FAIR TO CHARGE STAFF WITH MAYBE A FURTHER LEVEL OF CGI DESIGN OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD SHOW THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND TO BRING PEOPLE MORE COMFORT LEVEL ON 
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THAT? YEAH. AND AGAIN, IT WAS JUST, AGAIN, ACKNOWLEDGING THIS IS JUST ONE RENDERING. YEAH, I AGREE, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE, WHEN WE WERE DOING, I KNOW IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT PROJECT, BUT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DECK PARK, YOU KNOW, WE WENT PRETTY DEEP DIVE INTO DESIGN WORK BEFORE WE MADE A FINAL DECISION. BUT I'D CERTAINLY BE FOR ME, BE WILLING TO INVEST IN DESIGN WORK TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS, IF WE CAN, TO SHOW THE PEDESTRIAN INGRESS EGRESS, THE, YOU KNOW, THE ALL THOSE THINGS TO SEE HOW IT WOULD WORK. I THINK IT WOULD BRING PEOPLE MORE PEACE. SO A TWO STAGE CONTRACT, ONE WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL TO GET YOU COMFORTABLE. AND THEN ONCE YOU GUYS ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, THEN WE CAN COME BACK WITH A FULL DESIGN CONTRACT. I THINK SO, AND THAT ALSO ALLOWS US A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO GET OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, DO SOME EDUCATION, GET MORE FEEDBACK AND A MORE FORMAL, YOU KNOW, SETTING. SO I'D LOVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DESIGN. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU GARY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT IS OUR LAST WORK SESSION ITEM. THEN WE DO HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION. ALL RIGHT. 
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ALL RIGHT. THAT BEING THE CASE, AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 551.0712 ATTORNEY CLIENT ADVICE AND 551.072 REAL PROPERTY. 551.087 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MATTERS. WE WILL RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. IT IS
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