[CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:03] DON'T GET READY TO FOR THE VIP. ALL RIGHT. IT'S 3:01 P.M. WELCOME TO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY'S WORK SESSION. IT IS TUESDAY, APRIL THE 21ST, 2026. THIS IS CITY HALL, 406 EAST [26-0311 Proclamation for Administrative Professionals Week] VIRGINIA STREET IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS. I CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS AN INFORMATION SHARING OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS WEEK. SO WE'LL READ THAT PROCLAMATION AND THEN TAKE SOME PICTURES. OKAY. WHEREAS THE IMPORTANT ROLE OF ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED ANNUALLY BY THE UNITED STATES SECRETARY OF COMMERCE AND THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS I A A P SINCE THE POST-WORLD WAR TWO ERA OFFICE AND ORGANIZATIONAL MANAGEMENT AND RECEPTION AND CLIENT ENGAGEMENT, CLERICAL WORK AND RECORDS MAINTENANCE ARE JUST SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS DELIVER FROM THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OF AN ORGANIZATION TO THE FRONTLINE RECEPTIONIST TEAM, NUMEROUS POSITIONS ACROSS ALL LEVELS INCLUDE IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALISM. ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS WITHIN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY ORGANIZATION CONTRIBUTE TO OUR VISION, VALUES AND GOALS AND PROVIDE EXCEPTIONAL SERVICES FOR OUR COMMUNITY. NOW, AS THE MAYOR OF MCKINNEY, I DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE APRIL 19TH TO APRIL 25TH AS ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS WEEK AND WEDNESDAY, APRIL 22ND, 2026, AS ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS DAY. CONGRATULATIONS. ONE. OKAY, NEXT ITEM WILL BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS. IF YOU'RE HERE TODAY AND WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON AN ITEM ON OUR AGENDA THAT DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. ANYONE KNOW? ALL [26-0312 Consider/Discuss the Transfer of Operational Responsibility of the Animal Services Facility Advisory Committee] RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON OUR REGULAR AGENDA. FIRST ITEM IS 260312. CONSIDER DISCUSS TRANSFER OF OPERATIONAL RESPONSIBILITY OF THE ANIMAL SERVICES FACILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE. MR. HUBBARD, GOOD TO SEE YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS PHILIP HUBBARD. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF SERVICES FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY THIS AFTERNOON. I'M JUST GOING TO PROVIDE A BRIEF UPDATE OF OUR ANIMAL SERVICES FACILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE TRANSITION OF THAT RESPONSIBILITY FROM THE CITY OF MCKINNEY OVER TO THE COUNTY. SO THIS COMMITTEE WAS ORIGINALLY ESTABLISHED TO HELP COMPLY WITH THE STATE LAW REQUIRING A MUNICIPALITY OR A COUNTY TO STAND UP A COMMITTEE TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE AT ANIMAL SHELTERS WITH STATE REGULATIONS. THE SHELTER ITSELF IS LOCATED WITHIN MCKINNEY, BUT THE CITY. MCKINNEY HAS NO DIRECT OVERSIGHT OVER THE OPERATIONS OF THE COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER. AND SO WITH THAT AND IN WITH THE INTER LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE SIGNED EARLIER THIS YEAR, WHERE IT EXPLICITLY, EXPLICITLY STATES THAT THE COUNTY HAS THE AUTHORITY OVER THE SHELTER. WE HAD MET WITH COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES EARLIER IN THE YEAR, AND THEY WERE IN AGREEANCE THAT, YES, IT MAKES SENSE TO TRANSITION THE COUNTY OR THIS COMMITTEE FROM OUR RESPONSIBILITY OVER TO THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY. SO WITH THAT, THE COURT WILL HEAR THAT INFORMATION, I BELIEVE, ON MONDAY. I'LL BE IN ATTENDANCE [00:05:04] AT THAT. AND THEN OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT THEY'LL OPEN UP APPLICATIONS IN MAY. THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS PER STATE LAW THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS TO HAVE CERTAIN TYPES OF MEMBERS OR QUALIFICATIONS OF MEMBERS, ONE BEING A VETERINARIAN AND ANOTHER ONE BEING A COUNTY OR MUNICIPAL OFFICIAL NEEDS TO BE ASSIGNED TO THAT COMMITTEE. OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT A COUNTY OFFICIAL WILL BE ASSIGNED TO THAT. AND SO THE CITY ITSELF MAY NOT HAVE DIRECT REPRESENTATION ON THE COMMITTEE. AND THEN HOWEVER ELSE THEY DETERMINE OR WHATEVER ELSE IN TERMS OF QUALIFICATIONS, THEY DETERMINE THEY WANT OUT OF THEIR COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THAT WILL BE UP TO THE COUNTY AT THAT TIME. NEW APPOINTEES SHOULD BE SELECTED BY THE SUMMER OF THIS YEAR, AND THEN THE COUNTY WILL ASSUME FULL RESPONSIBILITIES IN OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR AS WELL. AND SO WITH THAT STAFF, WE RECOMMEND BRINGING THE WORK OF OUR CURRENT COMMITTEE TO A CLOSE AT THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. COUPLE THINGS OF NOTE, JUST BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE IS TRANSITIONING OVER TO THE COUNTY, IT'S NOT GOING TO DETER US AT ALL FROM OUR CONTINUED COLLABORATION WITH COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER. OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF BUILDING THAT RELATIONSHIP AND WORKING REALLY WELL WITH THEM, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE DOING THAT. AND THEN ALSO, MCKINNEY'S RESIDENTS ARE NOT GOING TO EXPERIENCE ANY DECREASE IN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE FROM OUR ANIMAL SERVICES TEAM. WE'RE STILL GOING TO RESPOND VERY TIMELY, BE COMPASSIONATE AND GIVE MCKINNEY RESIDENTS A HIGH QUALITY LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR ANY ANIMAL RELATED CONCERN. SO WITH THAT, I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE THE THE GUIDANCE FROM THE COUNCIL ON TRANSITIONING THIS FROM THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY OVER TO THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY AS WELL. PHIL, ONE QUESTION, AND THERE MAY BE OTHERS. DOES THE COUNTY HAVE ANY APPOINTEES NOW, OR HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONVERSATION ABOUT THEIR COMMITTEE? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY'VE SELECTED ANYBODY THUS FAR, BUT I ALSO DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. WHEN WE MET WITH THEM EARLIER THIS YEAR, THEY HAD NOT MADE ANY SELECTIONS OR DETERMINATION. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE ANY FURTHER? COUNCIL? DID YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOU KNOW, I'LL SAY THIS AND THIS ISN'T REALLY YOU, PHIL, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO. YOU DO A GREAT JOB. YOU KNOW, I DO HAVE. THERE'S THE PEOPLE HERE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE ANIMALS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE THE TRAP NEUTER RELEASE THING IN THIS LAST YEAR. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME LEVEL OF ACTIVATION IS TO SOMETHING ON SOME KIND OF A COMMITTEE LEVEL WHERE WE CAN WORK TO BETTER THE SITUATION OF ANIMALS. I KNOW YOU SAID THAT THE SHELTER'S BEEN COOPERATIVE FROM WHERE I SIT. SOMETIMES, FROM WHAT I HEAR FROM PEOPLE, THE EXPANSION OF THE SHELTER HAS BEEN TOO SLOW FOR THE DEMAND. AND I AGAIN, I KNOW THAT'S NOT ON YOU, BUT I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE WAYS TO KEEP SOME VERY TALENTED PEOPLE IN OUR CITY AND VERY PASSIONATE PEOPLE IN OUR CITY ENGAGED ON THIS ISSUE. AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AT THIS POINT, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND IF THE IF THE COUNTY'S USURPING ALL OF THE AUTHORITY THAT OUR ANIMAL SERVICES COMMITTEE HAS. AND I SEE NO UTILITY IN KEEPING IT AS IT IS, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME ADAPTATION ON THAT. CERTAINLY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU. OH, YOU NEED SOME. JUST YOU NEED MORE. COUNCIL APPROVES TRANSITIONING THE COMMITTEE OVER TO THE COUNTY. OKAY. ANYONE? MR. BELLAR? OKAY. NODDING OF HEADS. THANK YOU. YES. OKAY. GREAT. [26-0313 Update and Discussion on Parkland Dedication Ordinance] THANK YOU. THANKS. NEXT ITEM IS 260313. UPDATE ON AND DISCUSSION ON PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE. MISS BAKER. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. JENNY BAKER, PARKS PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. SO TONIGHT WE ARE HERE FOR PART TWO OF OUR PARKLAND DISCUSSION PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE DISCUSSION. IF YOU RECALL, WE CAME BEFORE YOU IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR TO KIND OF PROVIDE AN UPDATE AND REVIEW OF OUR ORDINANCE. AT THAT TIME, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF ISSUES SURROUNDING THE ORDINANCE. ONE WAS THAT WE THERE WERE SEVERAL INFILL REDEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE EXPERIENCING VERY HIGH CASH IN LIEU OF PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES. AND THEN ALSO THE APPLICABILITY OF THE ORDINANCE TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO TONIGHT, I'M GOING TO PROVIDE A QUICK REFRESHER ON HOW PARKLAND IS ASSESSED. JUST AS A REMINDER, THEN WE'LL DISCUSS RECOMMENDATIONS OR PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR OPTIONS. DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO ASSESS PARKLAND CASH AND CASH IN LIEU OF FEES. TALK ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT. AND THEN A QUICK OVERVIEW OF EVALUATION OF OUR CURRENT PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES. JUST A QUICK REFRESHER. OUR ORDINANCE HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 20 2022. WE'VE GOT TWO COMPONENTS OF PARKLAND DEDICATION COMPONENT [00:10:06] AND A PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE. THE PARKLAND DEDICATION IS ONE ACRE FOR EVERY 37 RESIDENTIAL UNITS FOR BOTH MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY. THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE IS A FLAT 1400 PER UNIT FOR SINGLE FAMILY AND 1600 PER UNIT FOR MULTI-FAMILY. THE ORDINANCE DOES HAVE, IN CERTAIN REDUCTIONS BUILT IN FOR PARKLAND DEDICATION. THERE ARE NO REDUCTIONS FOR SINGLE FAMILY OR MULTIFAMILY, BUT FOR MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL, YOU CAN GET OR IT'S 25% OFF THE LAND DEDICATION. AND THEN SENIOR INDEPENDENT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS 50% OFF. MOVING OVER TO PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES FOR SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY, AND MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL, YOU CAN GET UP TO 50% FOR CERTAIN DEVELOPER INSTALLED AMENITIES. AND THEN FOR SENIOR INDEPENDENT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE DO NOT CHARGE PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES. ADDITIONALLY, THERE IS ONE PROVISION WHERE SENIOR INDEPENDENT LIVING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING CAN RECEIVE ADDITIONAL REDUCTIONS OFF OF THEIR PARKLAND DEDICATION FEE. IF THEY DO CERTAIN AMENITIES THAT EXCEED THE VALUE OF WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE REQUIRED ON PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES. IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING, BUT PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD WITH THE MATH. AND THEN FOR COMPARISON, I ALWAYS KEEP OUR PREVIOUS ORDINANCE UP THERE BECAUSE THERE ARE STILL THOSE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE BEST ARE VESTED UNDER OUR OLD ORDINANCE, WHETHER IT BE THROUGH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS OR THEY RECEIVED APPROVAL OF THEIR SITE PLANS OR PLATS PRIOR TO 2022. SO THAT OLD ORDINANCE IS ONE ACRE FOR EVERY 50 UNITS WITH NO PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE. WE HAD FOUR PARKLAND ZONES. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE CURRENT ORDINANCE 1 TO 37 PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE. AND WE MOVED OVER TO SEVEN ZONES. JUST A VISUAL OF THE OLD AND CURRENT ZONES. THIS IS THIS SLIDE BASICALLY JUST SHOWS WHAT OUR PARKLAND AND OUR PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE DEPOSITS HAVE HAVE TOTALED OVER THE LAST FISCAL YEAR 23 AND 26 THROUGH TODAY. SO IT'S A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, YOU KNOW, TO OUR FUNDING, OUR PARKS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. SO WE'VE GOT DURING THAT TIME FRAME, WE TOOK IN JUST JUST OVER $29 MILLION. ANY QUESTIONS ON OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE? I HAVE ONE. THANK YOU, JENNY, ON THE DEDICATION. SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT ZONE FOUR. THERE'S NOT A HECK OF A LOT OF LAND IN ZONE FOUR, PER MY ESTIMATION, FOR SAY, OH, LET'S PUT A PARK HERE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE PRETTY DENSE AND BUILT OUT AND THAT MAY NOT BE RIGHT, BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY CLOSE TO RIGHT. SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THAT MONEY? WOULD IT GO TO IMPROVE THE CURRENT PARKS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE IN ZONE FOUR. OR MIGHT IT GO TO ACQUIRE LAND IN CALL IT ZONE TWO OR ZONE ONE, WHICH ARE MORE GREENFIELD UP THERE. SO PER THE ORDINANCE, IF WE COLLECTED IT IN ZONE FOUR, WE SHOULD SPEND IT IN ZONE FOUR. THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PARKS IN ZONE FOUR A LOT OF AGING PARKS. SO WE USE THAT MONEY TO RENOVATE THE AGING PARKS. OKAY. WE ALSO USE IT FOR EXPANSION OF OUR TRAIL SYSTEM. AND WE DO HAVE A SEVERAL MILES OF TRAILS THAT WE DO THAT'S STILL PLANNED ALONG WILSON CREEK. I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT TRAILS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS. THAT'S A GREAT POINT. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. MOVING ON. SO TO GET HERE TONIGHT, WE CONNECTED WITH DOCTOR JOHN CROMPTON. HE'S A PROFESSOR OUT OF A&M. HE WAS THE PRIMARY AUTHOR OF OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE. AND HE'S KIND OF GENERALLY REGARDED AS THE EXPERT ON PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCES ACROSS TEXAS. AND WE BRIEFED HIM ON THE DECEMBER MEETING, TALKED THROUGH SOME COUNCIL'S CONCERNS, AND HE PROVIDED A FEW RECOMMENDATIONS FOR US IN HOW WE ASSESS OUR CASH IN LIEU OF PARKLAND FEES. KIND OF GAVE US FOUR OPTIONS. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM QUICKLY AND THEN SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME ON EACH ONE ON THE INDIVIDUAL SLIDES. SO ONE IS CREATE A ZONE WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AREA WHERE THE PER ACRE LAND VALUE USED TO ASSESS THE FEE IS CURRENTLY CAPPED. TWO IS CREATE A PER ACRE LAND VALUE CAP OVER THE ENTIRE CITY. THREE USE AN AVERAGE PER ACRE LAND VALUE NOT A CAP, BUT A LAND VALUE WITHIN EACH OF THE SEVEN DIFFERENT ZONES. AND OF COURSE, FOUR JUST DO NOTHING. THERE'S ALSO THE OPTION OF A COMBINATION OF, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED TONIGHT. FINALLY, DOCTOR CROMPTON ALSO RECOMMENDED CONDUCTING AN UPDATE OF OUR PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE TO ENSURE THAT THESE REFLECT CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS. SO RECOMMENDATION NUMBER ONE, CREATE A NEW ZONE, OR PERHAPS MIRROR OR COMBINE A CURRENT ZONE WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AREA WHERE THE FEE IS ESSENTIALLY CAPPED. WE COULD LOOK AT THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD ZONE, SOME SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, SOME PROS, IS THAT IT WOULD BE EASILY UNDERSTOOD WITH WHERE THIS PROVISION IS ENFORCED. YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A DEFINED BOUNDARY. IT WOULD REDUCE THE HIGH CASH IN LIEU OF PARKLAND [00:15:03] FEES THAT SMALLER INFILL DEVELOPMENTS HAVE RECENTLY SEEN. SOME CONS. YOU COULD HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE YOU WILL HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE DEVELOPMENT JUST OUTSIDE OF THE ZONE COULD OR SHOULD RECEIVE THE CAP, AND THEN IT COULD BE SEEN AS UNFAIR AND OTHER DEVELOPMENT AREAS OF THE CITY WITH HIGH LAND VALUE, ASSUMING THAT THEIR LAND VALUE IS IS HIGHER THAN THE SET CAP. SO FOR CONTEXT, THIS IS A MCKINNEY TOWN CENTER ZONE. THIS JUST SHOWS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE DO HAVE AREAS WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AREA THAT ARE DEFINED BY CERTAIN ZONES WITHIN THIS ZONE. THOUGH. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE DOES NOT APPLY SO THAT NO PARKLAND FEES ARE CONNECTED WITHIN THIS BOUNDARY. AND JUST FOR REFERENCE, THIS IS THE THIS SHOWS THE LOCATIONS OF THE RECENT INFILL DEVELOPMENTS THAT KIND OF SPURRED A LOT OF THESE CONVERSATIONS. THE GREEN DOTS SHOW WHERE THOSE DEVELOPMENTS ARE. THE RED OUTLINE BORDERS SHOW WHERE THE MTC IS. SO IT'S A PRETTY EXPANSIVE AREA. YOU KNOW, WHERE WHERE IN AND AROUND DOWNTOWN AND EAST OF 75. SO THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT ZONE, THIS IS A POTENTIAL ZONE THAT YOU COULD, WE COULD BASICALLY, IF YOU CHOSE TO GO THIS ROUTE, WE COULD MIRROR THIS ZONE. IT DOES INCLUDE ALL THOSE LOCATIONS. PROBABLY THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT A LOCATION COULD FALL OUTSIDE OF THIS BOUNDARY, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK THROUGH. LET ME PAUSE THERE. WAS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS ON RECOMMENDATIONS? ONE, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWED THE DOLLAR VALUE? SO IF I'M LOOKING AT THIS THING TOP LEFT IN 2025, WE HAD ONE LOT OR MAYBE MULTIPLE LOTS THAT MANIFESTED 18,452 AND AGAIN AT 20,182. BUT THEN A FEW STONE'S THROW AWAY WERE DOWN TO 4763, RIGHT. SO IT REALLY DOES GO TO SHOW THAT. IN ALL THESE AREAS, IT SEEMS TO ME, AND YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, NONE OF THESE AREAS ARE GOING TO GET NEW PARKS. IT'S ALREADY BUILT OUT. THEY WILL GET IMPROVEMENTS. YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE A STRATEGIC OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ACQUIRE SOME KIND OF LAND SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE AS A ONE OFF. BUT, YOU KNOW, BUT IT REALLY DOES GO TO ILLUSTRATE THAT IT'S LIKE A IT'S LIKE A GAME OF ROULETTE, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU LUCKY OR NOT WHEN IT COMES TO THIS KIND OF THING? AND I WOULD SAY I'M A LITTLE BIT I'M NOT GOING TO USE THE WORD DISAPPOINTED, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY I WAS KIND OF HOPING TO SEE THIS KIND OF THING. IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS EAST OF FIVE WEST OF AIRPORT ROAD, BECAUSE IT AGAIN, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF REALLY BIG LOTS AND REALLY SMALL HOMES, AND WE COULD USE A LITTLE BIT MORE DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT DENSER, TO INCREASE THE APPETITE OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE, IT SEEMS TO ME SO, BUT I DON'T SEE ONE OF THOSE. AND MAYBE WE SCARED THEM ALL OFF OR SOMETHING. IF THEY WERE THINKING ABOUT PUTTING IN SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, WE HAVE SEEN, YOU KNOW, THIS DOESN'T REFLECT ALL OF THE INFILL DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS JUST THE ONES. AND I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE CLARIFIED THAT THIS IS JUST THE ONES WHERE WE KIND OF SAW THE REALLY HIGHER LAND VALUES. SO THERE HAS STILL BEEN REDEVELOPMENT, I SEE, BUT JUST BEEN MORE SORT OF, I GUESS, ON PAR WITH WHAT YOU'D EXPECT TO SEE. DO YOU KNOW OFFHAND WHAT THE AVERAGE ACROSS THE CITY PAID LIKE LAST YEAR OR SOMETHING? I MEAN, I DON'T REMEMBER THE AVERAGE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AVERAGE LAND VALUE. WELL, JUST THE AVERAGE PER PER UNIT. OH GOSH. CASH IN LIEU FEE. I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T KNOW THAT NUMBER. I'M GUESSING IT'S LOWER THAN THE FOUR OF THESE. IT WOULD BE OKAY. MY GUESS IS JUST IN. IT'S SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE FOUR AND THE 20, DON'T YOU THINK? I WOULD THINK YEAH, I WOULD THINK IT'S BELOW THE FOUR. YOU THINK IT WOULD BE BELOW THE FOUR. OH YEAH, MAYBE BELOW FOUR. OH WOW. BECAUSE THE THE THING IS WE ARE DEVELOPING OR WE ARE VALUING A DEVELOPED LOT HERE, WHICH HAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT VALUE THAN AN AG LAND, UNDEVELOPED PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT LIKE, SAY, LENNAR IS DOING. THAT'S TRUE NORTH WEST. AND SO WHEN YOU CALCULATE THIS, THERE'S IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE LIKE $1,200. AND YOU KNOW, THIS GUY UP HERE BY MY HOUSE PAID 20,000. AND IT'S JUST A BIG DISPARITY. IT'S A BIG DISPARITY. I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE AREAS ON ON THE WEST SIDE, AND IT IS EVEN CREEPING NORTH WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LAND, THE LAND VALUE VALUATIONS ARE INCREASING. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT THE 18,000 [00:20:05] PER UNIT LEVEL, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE IS SOMEWHERE IT'S $400,000 AN ACRE. YEAH. BUT $400,000 AN ACRE, 12 UNITS PER ACRE. YOU'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT PEANUTS COMPARED TO $20,000. YEAH, YEAH. IT'S NOT APPLES TO APPLES. YEAH. OKAY. MOVING ON TO RECOMMENDATION NUMBER TWO. THIS WOULD BE TO CREATE A CAP ON THE PER ACRE LAND VALUE USED TO ASSESS FEES ACROSS THE BOARD ALL OVER THE CITY. SO NOT ONE SPECIFIC ZONE BUT ACROSS THE CITY. SO IF YOUR LAND VALUE EXCEEDS X AMOUNT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THAT CAP IS SET OUT, SET AT THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD ASSESS THE FEES ASSUMING IT WAS, IF IT WAS LOWER THAN THE CAP, WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY USE THAT. SO THE PROS IT WOULD BE A FAIR ASSESSMENT. ACROSS THE CITY. IT'S CLEAR. IT'S EASY TO UNDERSTAND, UNDERSTAND, EASY TO ASSESS THE FEES. THERE WOULD STILL BE FLUCTUATION FLUCTUATIONS IN THE CAD PER ACRE VALUES BELOW THE CAP. BUT THIS ENSURES THAT THE VALUES WOULD NOT EXCEED THE ESTABLISHED CAP. CONS THAT THE CAP WOULD BE A BEST GUESS. ASSESSMENT OF AN EQUITABLE CAP THAT REFLECTS ALL OF THE ZONES. REDUCTION OF CASH IN LIEU OF DEDICATION FEES WILL MOST LIKELY OCCUR, AND THEN THE CAP WOULD BE A FIXED VALUE EACH YEAR THAT WOULD BE ADOPTED AS PART OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS. SO WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT IT EACH YEAR. RECOMMENDATION THREE AND JUST BEING CANDID, THIS IS PROBABLY STAFF'S LEAST FAVORITE OPTION STILL TO BE CONSIDERED, BUT THIS IS PROBABLY OUR LEAST PREFERRED WOULD BE TO USE AN AVERAGE PER ACRE LAND VALUE WITHIN EACH OF THE SEVEN DIFFERENT ZONES. IT WOULD BE A FAIR ASSESSMENT WITHIN EACH ZONE. DEVELOPERS WOULD KNOW UPFRONT WITH THEIR FEE IS AND THERE WOULD BE NO SURPRISES DUE TO FLUCTUATING LAND VALUES. THE CONS THOUGH AGAIN, THE REDUCTION OF CASH IN LIEU OF FEES. DETERMINING HOW OFTEN THIS WOULD NEED TO BE UPDATED. HOW DO WE DETERMINE WHICH SELECTION OF PROPERTIES TO TAKE THE AVERAGE VALUES FROM? AND THEN JUST JUST FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE VIEWPOINT, IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO ADMINISTER. NOT THAT WE COULDN'T, BUT IT'D BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT. DIFFICULT. JENNY, WOULD YOU HAVE TO DO IT WITHIN EACH BOUNDARY? COULD YOU NOT JUST DO A CITY WIDE LIKE THE CAPS? YOU COULD PROBABLY DO IT EITHER WAY. YEAH. HAVE ONE ACROSS. YEAH. BECAUSE THE THE CAP, THE IDEA, THE CAP ON THE PRIOR SLIDE RECOMMENDATION TWO WAS CONCERNED THAT IT WOULD KIND OF LEAVE OUT SOME REVENUE. BUT IF YOU, IF YOU TOOK IF IN 2026, WE LOOKED BACK AT 2025 AND SAID, WHAT WAS THE AVERAGE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE USED? WE HAVE THAT LIST OF WHAT THEY ACTUALLY DID USE. AND THEN WE JUST CHARGE THAT TO EVERYBODY. EVERY PERMIT GETS THAT CHARGE. THE CITY DOESN'T LOSE ANY REVENUE. AND WHEN YOU'RE USING THAT, THAT CALCULATION AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT SITTING HERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SEVEN DIFFERENT ZONES, IT'S APPLICABLE ACROSS THE CITY. YES. AND THIS RECOMMENDATION THOUGH, IS NOT FOR A CAP. THIS WAS FOR JUST A I'M JUST SAYING AN AVERAGE. YOU DON'T LOSE THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT YOU LOSE WITH A CAP. WELL YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT BECAUSE IT'S AN AVERAGE. YEAH. SO YOU'RE JUST TAKING A NUMBER. YEAH. YOU'RE JUST YOU'RE SAYING LAST YEAR WE WOULD HAVE COLLECTED $3 MILLION IN THIS IF WE WOULD HAVE CHARGED EVERYBODY THE WAY WE DO IT TODAY. SO NEXT YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE, WE FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IS PER THE NUMBER OF, OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT WERE WERE DONE. AND WE TAKE THAT PER UNIT, EVERYBODY GETS CHARGED THE SAME AND APPLY IT TO NEXT YEAR. I THINK OUR, OUR KIND OF WHAT WE STRUGGLED WITH WAS HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE LOOK AT THOSE UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES? YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE DETERMINE WHICH ONES TO ASSESS? YEAH, IF WE WERE LOOKING. BUT YOU'RE ASSESSING ALL OF THEM TODAY, RIGHT? ALL OF THE ONES THAT ARE UNDER DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? YOU'RE YOU'RE THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU LOOK, IF YOU LOOK BACK TO THE YEAR BEFORE AND JUST DID THE SAME EXERCISE THAT YOU'RE ALREADY DOING AND SAYING THIS WAS THE AVERAGE OF THE DEVELOPED LAND. SO THIS SHOULD BE THE AVERAGE THAT WE'RE USING FOR NEXT YEAR. THEN IT GIVES YOU A NUMBER THAT'S AN AVERAGE THAT THEORETICALLY WE DON'T LOSE ADDITIONAL REVENUE. IT'S DISTRIBUTED ACROSS TO ANYBODY WHO'S BUILDING A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THAT'S WHAT IT IS. WE COULD ABSOLUTELY DO THAT. I UNDERSTAND ON THE CAPS THAT YOU LOSE REVENUE IN THAT WAY. BUT BUT ON AVERAGE, WE'RE JUST SPREADING IT OUT AND EVENING IT AND MAKING IT MORE PREDICTABLE. AND TO ME, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH THESE RELATIVELY MATURE AREAS THAT ARE ALREADY KIND OF PARKED OUT, LET'S CALL IT. YEAH, WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IS REHAB AND [00:25:02] RECONSTRUCTION. AND I WOULD THINK THAT'S AN AGNOSTIC COST REGARDLESS OF WHERE IN THE CITY YOU'RE REPLACING A PLAYGROUND. I MEAN, THE EQUIPMENT, THE LABOR ARE GOING TO BE THE SAME. THEY'RE GOING TO BE AT A RANDALL'S PARK VERSUS, YOU KNOW. I CAN'T EVER REMEMBER THE ONE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, MARY WILLS, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. MARY. YEAH, THAT ONE, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENCE IN LAND VALUES, BUT NOT DIFFERENCE IN, IN THE REHAB. SO SURE, THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS ACROSS THE CITY REALLY. I MEAN, THEY JUST, THEY ARE WHAT THEY ARE. THEY ARE WHAT THEY ARE. YEAH. MR. MAYOR, IF I COULD MAKE A COMMENT, THE ONE CHALLENGE I THINK I SEE WITH THIS IS THAT YOU DO HAVE WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE SOMEONE WITH A LOWER PROPERTY VALUE THAT WE'RE PULLING UP HIGHER BECAUSE WE'RE USING AN AVERAGE, YOU'LL SURELY HEAR FROM THEM THAT WE'RE CHARGING THEM MORE, ASSESSING THEM MORE THAN WHAT THEIR VALUE IS IF WE USE AN AVERAGE. AND SO IT'S REGRESSIVE IN A SENSE, AND WE HAVE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE THOSE. YEAH, I THINK THAT REGRESSION IS RIGHT NOW NOT NECESSARILY GEARED TO. VALUE OF PROPERTY AND ULTIMATELY VALUE OF HOME. IT'S IT'S REGRESSIVE TO THE TYPE OF PROPERTY WE'RE DEVELOPING. SO A LARGER TRACT HAS A LOWER VALUE PER ACRE BECAUSE IT'S A BIGGER TRACT VERSUS THESE LOTS THAT HAVE SUCH A HIGH VALUE BECAUSE IT IS, IT IS WHAT IT IS. SO WE'RE, WE KIND OF HAVE THE, THE OPPOSITE PROBLEM RIGHT NOW WHERE AREAS THAT HAVE, I GUESS, LOWER PROPERTY VALUES HAVE HIGHER LAND VALUES AND ARE DEMANDING HIGHER FEES FROM US. YEAH. AND JUST, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK, WHY ARE WE, WE KEEP HAVING THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT EVALUATING THE LAND OR COMING UP WITH A, THE PROPERTY VALUE. I THINK TO ME, IT'S A, IT'S A FEE. SO WHY DON'T WE JUST LIKE CHANGE OUR THINKING AND JUST THINK OF A COST PER BUILD? SO IF IT'S, IF YOU GOT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, LIKE IF IT'S DOWNTOWN AND YOU'RE DOING A TEAR DOWN REBUILD AND IT'S 2200FTâ– !S, THEN WE'RE THE CITY CHARGES YOU, LET'S CALL IT $5 A FOOT. AND YOU CAN DO THAT ON A, ON A LARGER SCALE. THAT WAY IT'S EASIER TO MULTIPLY. SO YOU GOT A BIG DEVELOPER COMING IN THERE ON, ON A LARGER SCALE OUT THERE. HE'S BUILDING, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND UNITS. AND YOU KNOW, YOU SAY, OKAY, WELL, GIVE ME YOUR PLANS FOR EACH HOUSE OUT THERE. AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU'RE JUST CHARGING PER FOOT AND IT COULD BE A DOLLAR PER FOOT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU CAN DO IT. YOU CAN EVEN BREAK IT DOWN FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL. AND IF YOU DO IT THAT WAY, IT'S, IT'S CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD. AND IT DOESN'T OVERCHARGE THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PRICE PER FOOT VERSUS, YOU KNOW, LET'S FIND THE VALUE OF THE LAND HERE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE CHEAPER OUT THERE WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF LAND, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE DOWNTOWN. BUT THERE IS ON THAT. THERE IS A COUPLE THINGS. NUMBER ONE PART OF THIS IS TO ACQUIRE LAND, RIGHT? FOR AREAS THAT NEED PARKS, HONEY CREEK, THINGS LIKE THAT, COVINA RANCH, SOME OF THE BIG ONES WE HAVE COMING UP. SECOND ONE IS THAT ONCE A LOT IS TORN DOWN AND THEY BUILD A NEW HOUSE, THEY DON'T PAY ANOTHER PARK LAND DEDICATION, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAVE A UNIT. IT'S FOR I'VE GOT AN 1100 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE ON ONE ACRE, AND I WANT TO SUBDIVIDE IT INTO THREE MORE LOTS. SO THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE ADDING AND THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE TO DO IT. SO IT WOULD STILL WORK MATHEMATICALLY, YOU KNOW, IN A SENSE OF IF YOU HAVE A BIGGER PIECE OF LAND THAT YOU'RE ACQUIRING, YOU'RE GOING TO PAY A LARGER FEE BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHAT ARE YOU BUILDING ON IT? BECAUSE WE WOULD KNOW THROUGH, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT THE NUMBER OF UNITS THOUGH, RIGHT? IT'S THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT YOU ARE BUILDING AGNOSTIC OF THE SIZE OF THE LOT. SO I SEE VALUE IN KEEPING A LAND VALUE IN THERE BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO ACQUIRE THE LAND WE NEED FOR THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE CITY IN THAT ZONE. RIGHT. BUT IT'S THERE'S GOT TO BE A TO ME, THERE'S GOT TO BE A BETTER WAY THAN THAT POOR SAP ON KENTUCKY STREET WHO'S SUBDIVIDING HIS LOT INTO TWO. AND HE'S LOOKING AT A $27,000 PARKLAND DEDICATION FEE FOR ONE HOUSE. IT JUST DOESN'T. AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A NEW PARK THERE. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO IT'S I WANT TO ENCOURAGE THAT. I DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE SUBDIVIDING THE LOT, SAY, OF AN APPETITE TO DO. I'M COMING UP WITH NO SOLUTIONS HERE, BUT I GUESS I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE PREDICTABLE AND. FAIR. SUCH A SUCH A SUBJECTIVE WORD. BUT IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT IT APPLIES HERE. I DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE RECOMMENDATION TWO AND RECOMMENDATION THREE. I WAS JUST THINKING, I MEAN, BECAUSE I THINK YOU CAN GET TO A PRETTY EASY NUMBER AND APPLY IT CITYWIDE INSTEAD OF WITHIN EACH ZONE, KIND OF REDOING THAT EXERCISE SEVEN TIMES OVER. AND IT DOES, YOU KNOW, PREVENT IT FROM, YOU KNOW, LOST REVENUE WITH A CAP THAT ON AN AVERAGE, YOU'RE GOING TO GET ALL THE [00:30:06] REVENUE YOU WOULD HAVE HAD ANYWAY. SO A PER ACRE SET PER ACRE LAND VALUE ACROSS THE CITY THAT YOU CAN LOOK IN THE YEAR BEFORE AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD HAVE GOT. THIS IS THE VALUES OF THE DEVELOPED LAND. SO THIS IS WHAT THEY SHOULD BE ON AVERAGE. AND SO AND THEN AND THEN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR 2026. AND THEN WE DO THE SAME EXERCISE JUST LIKE WE'RE DOING TODAY IN 2026. AND WE APPLY THAT VALUE IN 2027. SO YOU KIND OF HAVE THIS LAGGING CATCH UP OF VALUES, BUT THE ONE YOU SHOWED THE 20,000, THAT WAS ONE I THINK I TALKED TO THE GUY, HIS, HIS ONE THING WE'VE DEALT WITH IN OLD MCKINNEY IS OUR LAND VALUES HAVE SKYROCKETED IN THE LAST THREE YEARS. AND SO I THINK HIS 2025 VALUE HE GOT, HE WAS ABLE TO USE 2024 WAS AN ADDITIONAL 80% MORE. SO I THINK IT WAS LIKE SOMETHING LIKE $35,000 WE ORIGINALLY BILLED HIM FOR, BUT THAT VALUE HADN'T BEEN CERTIFIED YET. AND I JUST LOOKED AT MY LAND VALUE ON MY LOT. IT'S GONE UP 48% PER YEAR FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS. AND SO IT JUST REALLY KNOCKS OUT THAT THIS IS A PREDICTABLE FEE IN THESE REDEVELOPMENT AREAS BECAUSE THERE IS LOTS OF LOTS OF THOSE 11,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS THAT CAN GO FOR 12,000, THAT CAN GO DOWN TO 6000. SURE THAT WE'RE DISCOURAGING IN THAT WAY. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WE THOUGHT MAYBE A DEFINED BOUNDARY. YEAH. MIGHT BE, BUT I GET WHERE, YOU KNOW. I'M THINKING TO WE HAD WE LOOKED AT ONE AT VIRGINIA. JUST SOUTH OF, OF JUST JUST TO THE WEST OF SPROUTS. THERE WAS THAT LOT THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO, TO SPLIT UP. THAT'S THE SORT OF THING DEVELOPED LOT INFILL, BUT OUT OF THAT ZONE AND THEY DIDN'T END UP DOING THAT. BUT THAT'S THE THERE'S, YOU'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH THE ISSUES YOU, YOU DESCRIBED WHERE THERE'S SOME OTHERS THAT IT PROBABLY APPLIES TO. AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO MAKE THOSE THE HIGHEST PAYING PARKLAND DEDICATION FEE. YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE TO RECEIVE THE CAP OR BE INCLUDED WITHIN THAT THAT BOUNDARY. YEAH. AND THAT WAS A PROBLEM WE SAW AS WELL. YEAH. I JUST THINK JUST EVEN WITH THE AVERAGES THOUGH YOU'RE STILL GOING TO AFFECT DOWNTOWN IS GOING TO BE AT A DISADVANTAGE. LIKE YOU SAID, THE HOME VALUES AND THE PROPERTY VALUES ARE JUST HIGHER DOWN HERE. YEAH. I MEAN ANYTHING YOU DO DOWNTOWN IS GOING TO PAY THE MOST. AND WE WANT REDEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN. BUT YOU KNOW YOU DON'T WANT THEM BEING AT A DISADVANTAGE, YOU KNOW, PAYING, YOU KNOW, BUILDING, YOU KNOW, MILLION DOLLAR PLUS TOWNHOMES BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO PAY ALL THESE PARKLAND FEES. YEAH. YOU CAN'T GET AFFORDABLE. THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY TO DIVIDE AND CREATE AFFORDABILITY WITH, WITH STUFF IN DOWNTOWN THAT WE LOSE THAT ABILITY BECAUSE THEY'RE PAYING A $20,000 PARKLAND DEDICATION FEE. THEY'RE PAYING A PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT FEE, THEY'RE PAYING IMPACT FEES, THEY'RE PAYING ALL THESE THINGS. AND SO WE KIND OF HAVE LOST THE ABILITY TO CREATE AFFORDABILITY IN THAT. JENNY, ARE YOU DO YOU HAVE MORE IN YOUR PRESENTATION? I DO, OKAY, JUST A LITTLE BIT. I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YOU KNOW, THAT WAS IT WAS BROUGHT UP AND DISCUSSED. YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE ADMINISTER THAT? WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY DO GET A 50% REDUCTION. WELL, CURRENTLY THEY GET A 50% REDUCTION TO TO THE ONE ACRE FOR EVERY 37 UNITS. AND A REMINDER THAT NO PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES ARE REQUIRED. SO FOR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT, SOMETHING THAT WE KIND OF LOOKED AT WAS MAYBE A SLIDING SCALE FOR PARKLAND REDUCTIONS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING SCORECARD. SO THIS IS OVER ON THE LEFT. YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF AFFORDABLE UNITS AND THE AFFORDABLE AFFORDABILITY LEVEL. THAT'S A TABLE THAT OUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT USES, UTILIZES WHEN THEY, YOU KNOW, DETERMINE AND EVALUATE WHAT'S AFFORDABLE. AND SO WE THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THE TOP IS THE MOST AFFORDABLE. AND SO IF WE WANTED TO IMPLEMENT LIKE A SLIDING SCALE REDUCTION OF OR CREDIT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MOST AFFORDABLE, YOU'D GET A 90% REDUCTION IN YOUR PARK FEES. SO THE EXAMPLE OVER TO THE RIGHT, THAT'S IN THE SHADED IN BLUE. IT JUST ASSUMES 100 UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH A, A MAKE BELIEVE LAND VALUE OF 100,000 PER ACRE. SO IF YOU'VE GOT 9,100% OF AFFORDABLE UNITS, YOU COULD YOUR FEE WOULD BE 22 TO $30,000. YOU KNOW, IN THIS IN THIS SCENARIO. SO, YOU KNOW, SLIDING DOWN, YOU CAN SEE KIND OF EXTRAPOLATE, EXTRAPOLATE WHAT IT WOULD BE FOR THE 70% OF 50 AND A 30. NOW THESE ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, NOT SET PERCENTAGES. THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE THAT WE PUT OUT THERE. MAYBE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. SO CERTAINLY OPEN TO YOUR TO YOUR FEEDBACK AND THOUGHTS ON THIS. IF YOU WANTED SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, AND I THINK YOU MAY HAVE SAID THIS AT A PREVIOUS SLIDE, BUT JUST TO RESET FOR EVERYBODY RIGHT NOW, IT'S A [00:35:03] STRAIGHT 50% IF YOU HAVE AFFORDABILITY AND IT'S KIND OF AGNOSTIC OF HOW THAT AFFORDABILITY LOOKS. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE THE ROUTE STUDY AND THE THINGS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE ARE RATHER OVER INVENTORY RIGHT NOW FOR 80%. AMI. WE'VE BUILT A LOT OF IT OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, AND I'VE MADE THE CASE UP ON THIS DICE A NUMBER OF TIMES. I THINK WE'RE, YOU KNOW, HOUSING THE WORKFORCE FOR ALLEN AND FRISCO UP IN OUR AFFORDABLE UNITS. FOR THAT, I HAVE NO APPETITE TO CONTINUE ANY MITIGATION FOR 80% AMI AT ALL. AT ALL. IT SEEMS THOUGH, THE PLACE THAT IN MY ESTIMATION, THAT WE NEED TO BE DOING THINGS ARE FOR THE ESPECIALLY THE SENIORS ONLY PLACES, BECAUSE THAT'S THE LARGEST THE HIGHEST GROWING NUMBER OF HOMELESSNESS PEOPLE, THE HIGHEST POPULATION OF HOMELESS INCREASES. SENIORS WHO RETIRE ONLY WITH SOCIAL SECURITY AND DON'T HAVE MUCH ELSE. AND WE'VE MADE A LITTLE BIT OF HEADWAY ON THAT. BUT I'D LIKE TO MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY INCREASE THE PIE OF WHAT WE'RE GRANTING IN PARKLAND REDUCTION, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ALTER THE SLICES OF THE PIE SO THAT 80% ISN'T GETTING ANYTHING, 30% IS GETTING AND, YOU KNOW, 30 TO 40% ARE GETTING MORE. AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE 60S ARE PARTICIPATING AT THE RATE THAT THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. THAT'S, THAT'S MY INITIAL REACTION TO THIS. OKAY. THE, THE THRESHOLD IN ALL FOUR CATEGORIES OF AT LEAST 5% OF UNITS IN 30 TO 40 IS A IS A BIG THRESHOLD THAT A LOT OF THE PREVIOUS ONES THAT HAVE COME IN CANNOT CROSS. SO I AGREE WITH THAT. YEAH. AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF THEM THAT ARE 80, YOU KNOW, 50% AT 80% AMI AND THEN 50% AT MARKET. AND THEY ENJOY THE 50% PARKLAND DEDICATION, JUST LIKE THE ONE THAT WE JUST DID WITH THE 30%, AM I? AND SO AGAIN, I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE AN APPETITE TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE PIE THAT WE'RE REDUCING THE, THE GIVEAWAY MORE OR LESS. BUT I DO WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT REDISTRIBUTED MORE TO THE HOUSING THAT WE NEED THAT CAN, I THINK, MEANINGFULLY HELP PERHAPS MITIGATE HOMELESSNESS AND NOT THE 80% STUFF THAT BUY EVERY THING I SEE WE ARE OVER INVENTORIED AND BUT THEY'RE FULL AND THEIR HOUSING WORKFORCE. BUT IT AIN'T OURS. AND I WAS JUST POINTING OUT THAT THAT BOTTOM TIER, IT SEEMS LIKE PROJECT INCLUDES 50% TO 55% AFFORDABLE UNITS AND ONLY 5% REACH THE 30% AMI THAT'S THE STANDARD DEAL THAT WAS GETTING A 50%. AND NOW THEY'RE ONLY GETTING 30. SO WE'VE KIND OF DISINCENTIVIZED THAT TO, TO YOUR POINT THAT I DON'T WANT I WANT THAT TO BE ZERO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, YEAH, MOST OF THE ONES ARE NOT GOING TO AND I'M ONE OF SEVEN AND I GET THAT, BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO INCENTIVIZE THAT AT ALL. ALMOST DONE. LAST SLIDE. AND THIS IS JUST MORE AS A HEADS UP, OUR ORDINANCE HAS A PROVISION BUILT IN THAT BASICALLY SAYS EVERY FIVE YEARS THE COUNCIL WILL REVIEW THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE AND MAKE SURE IT'S CONSISTENT. WE'LL IT'S DUE IN 2027. WE JUST DID A QUICK ESTIMATE. THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE IS BASICALLY BASED UPON MOST CURRENT CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND THEN THE NUMBER OF PARK ACRES. AND THERE'S A FEE SET IN THAT ORDINANCE DOING A VERY QUICK CALCULATION. WE ARE LOW. THE 2612 WOULD BE FOR MULTIFAMILY AND 3192 FOR SINGLE FAMILY. BUT THIS IS JUST A HEADS UP TO YOU ALL THAT WE WILL BE COMING COMING LATER WITH AN UPDATE AS TO WHAT PER ORDINANCE THE FEES SHOULD BE. AND THEN WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK THROUGH THAT. OKAY. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. SO THE DECISION IS DUE IN 27 FOR THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE. OKAY. YEAH. JUST A DISCUSSION. ARE WE DO WE STICK WITH OUR CURRENT CURRENT FEES OR DO WE, YOU KNOW, UPDATE THEM TO REFLECT CURRENT CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS AND THEN MAYBE IMPLEMENT A SLIDING SCALE JUST LIKE WE DID THE FIRST TIME AROUND. I'LL JUST MAKE A QUICK COMMENT. YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS ABOUT MAKING THINGS SIMPLER AT THE CITY, MAKING THE EASE OF GETTING THROUGH THE CITY EASIER. I'M MORE PRONE TO HAVE A SINGLE FIGURE THAT EVERYBODY PAYS, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS. IT'S EASIER TO ADMINISTER. IT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BASED ON AVERAGE. I MEAN, WE JUST SET A GOAL OF WHAT WE NEED TO GET THERE AND WHAT THAT NUMBER IS. SO NOT HAVE MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, NOT HAVE A SEPARATE LANE DEDICATION AND PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE, JUST ONE FEE PER UNIT. NO, NO, YOU STILL HAVE THE PARK DEDICATION FEE I'M TALKING ABOUT IN LIEU OF. OH, OKAY. YES. HOW DOES THAT [00:40:05] LOOK IN HISTORIC DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY VERSUS, YOU KNOW, WEST OF LAKE FOREST? OR NORTH OF 380? I THINK IT'S JUST I THINK IT'S JUST DETERMINING, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT FEE IS AND WHAT WE USE TO CALCULATE THAT FEE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE DETERMINE IT? IS IT, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK ON LAST YEAR'S CAD PER ACRE VALUE AND LOOK AT IT ACROSS THE CITY AND JUST DETERMINE WHAT THAT PER UNIT VALUE SHOULD BE, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE MAYOR, IF I MAY ASK, WHAT HOW DO MOST OF THE CITIES AROUND HERE CALCULATE THEIR FEES BASED ON CAD VALUE? THEY'RE ALL A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THERE IS A CALCULATION LIKE PLANO, FOR EXAMPLE, WHO'S LARGELY BUILT OUT, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST CHARGE ONE FLAT FEE PER UNIT. THEY DON'T HAVE PARKLAND DEDICATION. PARKLAND IS JUST ONE FEE. AND I WANT TO SAY ACTUALLY HAD THEIRS WRITTEN DOWN. I THINK I WANT TO SAY IT WAS ABOUT 5000 5600 FOR SINGLE FAMILY AND MAYBE 40 SOMETHING FOR MULTI-FAMILY. FRISCO HAS A VERY SIMILAR MODEL THAT WE DO. HOWEVER, THEY DO A RIGHT RIGHT OFF THE BAT. THEY TAKE, I WANT TO SAY A 60% REDUCTION OFF THE FAIR MARKET VALUE OF THE LAND IN DETERMINING THE CASH IN LIEU OF FEE. SO THEY ALSO HAVE A PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE COMPONENT. AND IT'S A, IT'S A CALCULATION AND THEY HAVE A RATIO. THEIRS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT CALCULATION THAN WHAT WE USE, BUT IT'S A IT'S THE SAME METHODOLOGY, BUT THEY DO RIGHT OFF THE BAT TAKE A 60% REDUCTION OFF THE THE VALUE OF THE LAND IN DETERMINING THE CASH IN LIEU OF THAT SURPRISES ME. I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT THOUSAND ACRE PARK THEY'RE BUILDING NOW, I MEAN, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. AND SO I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING THAT GOES INTO THEIR MATH, BUT IT SURPRISES ME THAT THEY'RE THAT I'LL CALL IT GENEROUS WITH THAT REDUCTION. THAT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. AND THEY IT'S A, IT'S A FAIRLY NEW ORDINANCE, I WANT TO SAY WITHIN THE LAST MAYBE YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF. OKAY, WELL THEN MAYBE IT HASN'T REARED ITS HEAD THEN IN A PRACTICAL MANNER, BECAUSE THEY HAD A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT. SO THERE'S JUST ONE FEE. THEY JUST CHARGE ONE FEE. FRISCO HAS TWO EVERYTHING. FRISCO HAS TWO SAME, SAME MODEL THAT WE HAVE PRETTY MUCH. BUT THEY TAKE 60% OFF THE CAD VALUE WHEN THEY'RE ASSESSING THAT CASH IN LIEU OF IT. SO THAT'S A LOT. YEAH, YEAH. PLANO HAS A FLAT FEE. I COULD CERTAINLY RESEARCH OTHERS AND I'LL MAKE THE COMMENT. I THINK WE ALL KNOW THIS, BUT PLANO IS NO LONGER REALLY GROWING, YOU KNOW, SO I WOULDN'T LOOK AT THEM AS A GREAT ANALOGY TO US. ANYONE ELSE. THERE'S LOTS GOING BACK AND FORTH AND LOTS OF RECOMMENDATIONS. WHAT ABOUT THIS? IF IF YOU AND STAFF GO BACK, LET'S LOOK AT HOW THIS CONVERSATION IS GOING. HOW DOES THAT LOOK AND COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION? SURE. MAYBE IN MAY OR JUNE OR WHENEVER YOU'VE GOT WHATEVER THE SCHEDULE LOOKS YOU CAN GET WITH CITY MANAGER ON THAT WILL DO. IS THAT EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? YEAH. AND I APPRECIATE THIS VERY MUCH. THESE WERE TWO VERY COMPLICATED ISSUES YOU HAD TO WEAVE INTO ONE PRESENTATION. I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE. ABSOLUTELY. I APPRECIATE THE WORK TOO. I KNOW YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO ALL THIS AND NO, THAT'S OKAY. IT'S IMPORTANT. I SAID WHAT I SAID, YEAH, BUT OKAY WITH THAT. EVERYONE GOOD? OKAY. DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU, JENNY. OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. NEXT ITEM IS [COUNCIL LIAISON UPDATES regarding City Boards & Commissions] LIAISON UPDATES. ANY UPDATES FROM ANYONE? CDC THIS THURSDAY. SO THERE YOU GO. THERE'S AN UPDATE FOR YOU. HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE. CDC THURSDAY. OKAY. VERY GOOD. VERY GOOD. WITH THAT, WE [EXECUTIVE SESSION] DO HAVE MR. HAUSER AND EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO IN THE COURT I'M SORRY, THE OTHER. MR. I APOLOGIZE IT'S AN OLD HABIT. I NEED TO BREAK THAT HABIT. SO MUCH BETTER LOOKING THAN MR. HAUSER. IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION FIVE FIVE, 1.0712551.071. A50155 1.072. DELIBERATIONS ABOUT REAL PROPERTY 551.07 FOR PERSONAL MATTERS AND 551.087 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE WILL RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE S * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.