[CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:13] IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF ALL THE CITIZENS OF MCKINNEY, WHILE MAINTAINING THE HERITAGE AND HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT COMMENTS ON THE NONPUBLIC HEARING AGENDA ITEMS? WE DO NOT. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT [CONSENT ITEMS] AGENDA. THE FIRST ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 260-040 EIGHT MINUTES OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ADVISORY BOARD REGULAR MEETING OF APRIL 2ND, 2026. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 260408? I HAVE A JUST A SOMETHING TO POINT OUT. MY LAST NAME IS MISSPELLED ON THE MINUTES. I ALREADY SIGNED THEM. WHAT? YOU WERE JUST TESTING TO MAKE SURE I READ THEM RIGHT? YEAH, I DID READ THEM AND I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT. CAN WE CORRECT THAT? YES. OKAY, GOOD. NO PROBLEM. YOU JUST WANT TO HANDWRITE IT IN THERE OR YOU HAVE TO GET ANOTHER PART. WE'LL PRINT A NEW ONE. ALL RIGHT. AWESOME. GREAT. SO CAN WE THEN MOVE APPROVE THESE IF THERE. YEAH. WITH WITH A STIPULATION THAT THEY WILL BE REVISED AND CORRECTED. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? MOTION TO APPROVE THE REVISED MINUTES WITH THE NAME CORRECTION. MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HAMMOND TO APPROVE THE. THE THE MINUTES. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND YOU SECOND. OKAY. SECOND. BY MARCIA. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE [26-0409 The Undertold McKinney Project] INFORMATION SHARING ITEMS. FIRST UP IS ITEM NUMBER 26-0409. THE MCKINNEY THE UNDERTOLD MCKINNEY PROJECT AND TORI BROWN WILL MAKE A PRESENTATION. THANK YOU TORI. GOOD EVENING. CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? OKAY. OKAY, LET'S MAKE SURE THIS IS WORKING TO. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, BOARD CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIR. I HOPE EVERYONE IS HAVING A GREAT NIGHT. I AM HERE TONIGHT. TORI BROWN, NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TELL YOU ABOUT OUR UNDERTOLD MCKINNEY PROJECT THAT LAUNCHED IN JUNE OF 2025. GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A PROGRAM UPDATE THERE. IN OUR PLANS FOR YEAR TWO OF THE PROJECT. RIGHT? SO I'M GOING TO START BY GOING OVER A LITTLE PROJECT BACKGROUND, HOW WE EVEN GOT THE IDEA TO START UNDERTOLD MCKINNEY. THEN WE'LL GO INTO 2025 RECAP OF HOW THE PILOT PROJECT WENT, AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT OUR YEAR TWO PROGRAM AND WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR THAT. AND THEN I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. OKAY, SO LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I TALKED TO Y'ALL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY AND WHAT MY JOB WAS AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNER. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KIND OF SPARKED THE CREATION OF MY POSITION WAS THE 2023 EAST MCKINNEY NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVATION STUDY. SO IN THIS STUDY THAT WAS CONDUCTED IN MAY OF 2023, OUR CONSULTANTS FOUND THAT EDUCATION AND OUTREACH FOR EXISTING PROGRAMS IS VITAL FOR EAST MCKINNEY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE POPULATION THAT LIVES THERE NOW AND THROUGH THE UNDERTOLD MCKINNEY PROJECT THAT ALLOWS US TO INCREASE OUR VISIBILITY. THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE'S VISIBILITY IN THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT AND WE CAN ALSO GROW RELATIONSHIPS WITHIN THE LEGACY NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE LARGER MCKINNEY COMMUNITY. AND SO WHEN WE GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY WITH JUST EDUCATION AND OUTREACH OF OUR PROGRAMS, IT CAN BE HARD TO REACH PEOPLE MEANINGFULLY BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, WE'RE JUST HERE TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE WANT TO SHOW YOU, AND THEN WE'RE GOING BACK HOME. AND SO WE SAW UNDERTOLD MCKINNEY AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE MORE DEEPLY WITH THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY AND WORK ON SOMETHING TOGETHER LONG TERM, WHICH WOULD RESULT IN US BEING ABLE TO GROW DEEPER, MORE MEANINGFUL RELATIONSHIPS WITH THOSE PEOPLE, WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO UNDERSTAND MORE DEEPLY THE ISSUES THAT THEY MIGHT BE FACING IN THEIR DAILY LIFE, AND WHAT RESOURCES WE COULD PROVIDE TO HELP THEM WITH THOSE THINGS. SO WE SEE THIS AS A WAY TO BUILD TRUST WITH THE COMMUNITY. IT'S KIND OF A LONG TERM INVESTMENT OF WE'RE HERE TO WORK WITH YOU. AND EVEN IF WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE END PRODUCT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, THE THE INTENTION IS REALLY FOR US TO BE TOGETHER, WORKING TOWARDS A COMMON GOAL IN COMMUNITY. THE OTHER THING THAT WENT INTO THE CREATION OF THE UNDERTOLD MCKINNEY PROJECT WAS THE 2023 HISTORIC MCKINNEY [00:05:03] SURVEY. ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME OUT OF THIS SURVEY FROM OUR CONSULTANTS WAS THAT PRIORITIZATION OF BLACK AND HISPANIC NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD BE VITAL. SO I HAVE A LITTLE BLURB HERE THAT'S DIRECTLY FROM THE SURVEY THAT READS, THE BLACK AND HISPANIC COMMUNITIES HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE HISTORY, DIVERSITY AND CULTURE OF MCKINNEY SINCE THE CITY'S FOUNDING. BUT THE HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND NEIGHBORHOODS IN WHICH THESE GROUPS RESIDED WERE NOT ADEQUATELY, ADEQUATELY SURVEYED PRIOR TO THE CURRENT FIELD WORK. AND IN THAT, THE SAME HISTORIC MCKINNEY SURVEY FROM 2023, THEY ACTUALLY PROVIDED US WITH A LIST OF RESOURCES THAT WERE RECOMMENDED FOR EITHER AN OFFICIAL TEXAS HISTORIC MARKER OR AN UNDERTOLD MARKER, WHICH I HAVE LISTED HERE, AND THEY'RE ALSO AVAILABLE IN THAT SURVEY REPORT, WHICH IS ON OUR WEBSITE. OKAY. NOW WE KNEW THAT. SO TO GIVE A LITTLE CONTEXT OF THS UNDERTOLD MARKER PROGRAM ON THIS LAST SLIDE, WHEN I MENTIONED THEY WERE RECOMMENDED FOR EITHER OFFICIAL TEXAS HISTORIC MARKER OR AN UNDERTOLD MARKER. THE UNDERTOLD MARKER PROGRAM IS A SPECIAL AND DISTINCT PROGRAM OFFERED THROUGH THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION THAT IS TARGETED TOWARDS TOPICS THAT HAVE HISTORICAL GAPS IN IN THE RECORD. SO THEY HAVE A WHOLE LIST OF TOPICS THAT ARE THAT SCORE HIGHLY AS AN UNDERTOLD TOPIC AND HISPANIC HISTORY, AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY, SEGREGATION, AND INTEGRATION. THOSE ARE ALL INCLUDED ON THE LIST OF TOPICS, AS WELL AS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC HOUSING, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE KNEW THAT ALL OF THOSE THINGS WERE KIND OF ENCOMPASSED IN THE EAST MCKINNEY STORY. AND SO WE KNEW THAT IF WE WERE GOING TO GO FOR A MARKER BETWEEN THE OFFICIAL TEXAS HISTORIC MARKER AND THE UNDERTOLD MARKER, WE FELT IT MADE MORE SENSE TO GO FOR THE UNDERTOLD MARKER. ANOTHER THING TO ADD IS THAT AT THE TIME WHEN WE WERE APPLYING FOR THIS, COLLIN COUNTY HAD NO UNDERTOLD MARKERS. SO WE WERE HOPEFUL THAT MAYBE WE WOULD BE THE FIRST. BUT GOING INTO IT, WE ALSO KNEW THAT BECAUSE THE UNDERTOLD MARKER PROGRAM IS A SUBSIDIZED. THROUGH THE THC, IT'S VERY, VERY COMPETITIVE COMPARED TO JUST A STANDARD HISTORIC MARKER. ONLY ABOUT 15% OF THE APPLICATIONS ARE SELECTED, AND YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE A VERY THOROUGH, WELL DOCUMENTED APPLICATION TO HAVE THE BEST CHANCE OF SUCCESS. SO WE KNEW THAT WE HAD OUR WORK CUT OUT FOR US. IF WE WERE GOING TO BE GOING FOR HISTORIC MARKER, AND WE KNEW THAT WE WOULD NEED THE HELP OF THE COMMUNITY, WE KNEW THAT WE DID NOT KNOW ENOUGH, AND WE DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH CONNECTIONS ON OUR OWN, SO THAT WE NEEDED TO REACH OUT TO OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITY AND THE PEOPLE IN EAST MCKINNEY AND GET THEIR HELP. SO THAT'S HOW THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY GROUP WAS FORMED. WHEN WE INITIALLY DECIDED TO CONVENE AN ADVISORY GROUP, WE HAD A COUPLE OF ORGANIZATIONS IN MIND, SO WE REACHED OUT TO THEM DIRECTLY, AND WE ENDED UP HAVING REPRESENTATIVES FROM BOTH THE MCKINNEY LEGACY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS THE MCKINNEY HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. SO WE HAD PEOPLE FROM BOTH THE WEST HISTORIC SIDE AND THE EAST HISTORIC SIDE, AS WELL AS CHESTNUT SQUARE, LEGACY KEEPERS OF EAST MCKINNEY AND A COUPLE OF OTHERS THAT REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY. SO WHEN WE CONVENED OUR CAG, WE KNEW THAT WE WANTED TO GIVE THEM A MORE RESPONSIBILITY THAN A TYPICAL BOARD WOULD HAVE. SO WE GAVE THEM THE JOB TO NAME THE PROJECT. SO UNDERTOLD MCKINNEY, THAT NAME ACTUALLY CAME OUT OF THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY GROUP. ORIGINALLY. WE WERE JUST CALLING IT HISTORIC MARKER PILOT PROJECT. SO WE LIKE THE UNDERTOLD MCKINNEY NAME. WE ALSO GAVE THEM THE TASK TO GO THROUGH THAT LIST THAT I MENTIONED FROM THE HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY, AND CHOOSE BETWEEN THAT LIST OF HOUSES OR PROPERTIES, WHICH ONE THEY WANTED TO APPLY FOR A MARKER FOR. THEY WERE GOING TO HELP US CRAFT THE MARKER NARRATIVE WITH CITATIONS. IF ANYBODY WHO HAS EVER APPLIED FOR A MARKER, YOU KNOW HOW MUCH RESEARCH THOSE REQUIRE. AND WHEN YOU'RE ESPECIALLY TRYING TO DO A MARKER FOR AN UNDERTOLD STORY, YOU CAN IMAGINE IT'S EVEN HARDER TO FIND RESOURCES AND DOCUMENTS. SO WE DEFINITELY NEEDED THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY GROUPS HELP WITH THAT. ANOTHER REALLY SIGNIFICANT THING THAT OUR ADVISORY GROUP HELPED WITH WAS PROVIDING LETTERS OF SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF THEMSELVES AND THEIR ORGANIZATIONS. WE WERE ABLE TO GET LETTERS OF SUPPORT, AND YOU SHOULD HAVE COPIES OF THOSE LETTERS IN YOUR PACKET SO YOU CAN READ THEM. BUT WE WERE ABLE TO GET LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY ATTENDED. WELL, I HAVEN'T REVEALED THIS YET. THE MARKER WE DECIDED TO GO FOR WAS E.S. DOTY SCHOOL. SO WE WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE THAT ATTENDED S DOTY SCHOOL OR WHOSE LOVED ONES ATTENDED SCHOOL, WRITE LETTERS OF SUPPORT, AND TALK ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT SCHOOL AND THE HISTORY IN THE COMMUNITY. AND WE REALLY, REALLY THINK I CANNOT REITERATE ENOUGH HOW STRONG I THINK THOSE LETTERS OF SUPPORT MADE OUR APPLICATION. AND IF ANYBODY IS EVER WANTING [00:10:04] TO DO A HISTORIC MARKER IN UNDERTOLD SPECIFICALLY, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND GETTING LETTERS OF SUPPORT. WE ALSO SOLICITED ADDITIONAL LETTERS OF SUPPORT WHERE WE COULD, AND WE HAD OUR COMMUNITY ADVISORY GROUP TALK TO ANYONE THAT WOULD LISTEN TO THEM ABOUT THE UNDERTOLD MCKINNEY PROJECT. SO LIKE I SAID, WE WENT WE FINISHED OUR APPLICATION IN NOVEMBER OF 2025 AND SUBMITTED IT TO THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION. AND WE WERE NOTIFIED IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR THAT WE WERE AWARDED A MARKER. SO WE WERE VERY HAPPY TO LEARN ABOUT THAT. WE AS FAR AS WE KNOW, THE TEXAS HISTORIC COMMISSION IS WORKING ON CRAFTING THE INSCRIPTION AND FABRICATING THE MARKER. RIGHT NOW, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT WE CAN EXPECT THE INSTALLATION TO OCCUR SOMETIME IN SPRING 2027. HOWEVER, I'VE ALSO HEARD FROM OUTSIDE SOURCES THAT SOMETIMES IT CAN TAKE A BIT LONGER THAN THAT, SO WE WILL BE SURE TO KEEP EVERYBODY UPDATED. WE WANT TO HAVE A WHOLE PUBLIC UNVEILING CEREMONY AND EVERYTHING, RIBBON CUTTING AND INVITE THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT WRITERS AND OUR C, A, G AND THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY OUT TO CELEBRATE WITH US. SO TO PACKAGE THAT ALL UP IN ONE NICE LITTLE SLIDE. IN JUNE OF 2025, WE CONVENED OUR COMMUNITY ADVISORY GROUP TO GUIDE THE PROJECT TRAJECTORY. FROM JULY TO OCTOBER, WE MET MONTHLY AND WORKED ON PREPARING THE APPLICATION. IN NOVEMBER, WE SUBMITTED THE FINAL APPLICATION, INCLUDING THOSE LETTERS OF SUPPORT, AND BY FEBRUARY WE WERE NOTIFIED OF OUR AWARD OF THE MARKER AND WE HELD A LEGACY. NEIGHBORHOODS OF EAST MCKINNEY STORYTELLING EVENT TO SHARE THE STORY OF EAST SCHOOL AND THE AWARD OF THE MARKER WITH THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY. THERE IS A RECORDING OF THAT PRESENTATION. IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN WATCHING IT, IT IS AT MCKINNEY, TEXAS.ORG/UNDERTOLD. YEAH, HERE'S A PICTURE FROM THAT NIGHT. IT HAPPENED IN THESE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. SO WE WERE ABLE TO SHARE THE STORY OF EAST WITH THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND SHARE OUR SUCCESS OF BEING AWARDED A MARKER. IF ANYBODY WAS HERE THAT NIGHT, YOU KNOW THAT IT WAS A VERY EMOTIONALLY CHARGED ROOM. EVERYONE WAS VERY HAPPY AND TOUCHED BY THE STORY AND THE AWARD OF THE MARKER. AND AGAIN, THE EVENT RECORDING CAN BE VIEWED AT MCKINNEY, TEXAS.ORG/UNDERTOLD. OKAY, SO OUR GOALS GOING INTO YEAR TWO OF THE UNDERTOLD MCKINNEY PROJECT IS THAT WE WANT TO GROW COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION EVEN MORE. WE WANT TO INVITE CREATIVITY AND INNOVATION, AND WE'D LIKE TO BUILD BROAD SUPPORT FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACROSS THE CITY. SO OUR PROJECT PLAN SO FAR, THIS IS KIND OF OUR GENERAL TIMELINE. LAST, OUR PILOT PROJECT WAS ONLY ABOUT SIX MONTHS LONG. THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO BUMP IT OUT TO A FULL 12 MONTHS. SO WE LAUNCHED OUR CAG APPLICATIONS IN APRIL AND THEY WILL BE OPEN UNTIL MAY 17TH. AND WE WILL NOTIFY OUR MEMBERS OF THEIR SELECTION AT THE END OF MAY. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE OUR FIRST MEETING IN ON JUNE 11TH HERE AT CITY HALL. AND THAT WILL BE OUR ORIENTATION MEETING. JULY. WE'LL MEET WITH THE CAG FOR PROJECT SELECTION AND SCOPING. IN AUGUST, WE WILL FINISH UP WITH PROJECT SCOPING AND THEN WE WILL HIT THE GROUND RUNNING FROM SEPTEMBER OF 26 TO MARCH 27TH, WITH PROJECT COORDINATION AND EXECUTION. AND THEN APRIL 20TH 7TH TO JUNE 27TH IS THE JUNE OF 27 IS THE PROJECT COMPLETION PERIOD. SO SOME CHANGES THAT WE ARE MAKING TO THIS YEAR, TWO, COMPARED TO OUR PILOT YEAR, IS THAT THE PILOT YEAR WE REQUIRED CAG MEMBERS TO BE INVITED TO BE ON THE CAG. THERE WAS NO APPLICATION PROCESS. WE JUST REACHED OUT AND SAID, HEY, IS ANYONE INTERESTED ON YOUR BOARD TO DO THIS? AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT OUR FOLKS. AND THEN IT WAS ONLY A SIX MONTH PROGRAM TERM, AND WE HAD A PREDEFINED PROJECT TYPE, WHICH WAS THE HISTORIC MARKER. SO FOR YEAR TWO, WE WOULD LIKE TO GOING BACK TO THE GOALS FOR YEAR TWO OF WANTING TO INVITE CREATIVITY AND INNOVATION AND MORE BROAD COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION. WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE APPLICATIONS TO SERVE ON THE CAG. SO THOSE APPLICATIONS ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE TO THE PUBLIC. ANYONE WHO LIVES IN MCKINNEY CAN APPLY. WE EXPANDED IT FROM A SIX MONTH PROGRAM TERM TO A 12 MONTH PROGRAM TERM. NOW, I DO WANT TO CLARIFY IF OUR PROGRAM, IF WHATEVER THE PROJECT IS SELECTED BY THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY GROUP, IF THAT DOESN'T TAKE 12 MONTHS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE THEM KEEP SHOWING UP FOR MEETINGS EVERY MONTH. WE ARE GOING TO FINISH OUT THE PROJECT HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES, AND THEN WE'LL GET READY TO LAUNCH INTO YEAR THREE. SO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF AMBIGUITY THERE OF WHAT THE PROJECT WILL BE AND HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE. BUT WITH THE TIMELINE THAT WE HAVE SET OUT, WE ARE COMFORTABLE. WE FEEL THAT WE ARE WELL POSITIONED TO COMPLETE WHATEVER PROJECT IT IS WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS THAT IT'S AN UNDEFINED PROJECT TYPE. [00:15:05] SO WE'RE GIVING WE'RE HANDING THE REINS OVER TO OUR COMMUNITY ADVISORY GROUP AND SAYING, TELL US WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE, AND WE WILL WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. WELL, THERE WE GO. OKAY, SO THERE ARE A FEW QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING. SO ONCE WE DO FINALLY CONVENE OUR CAG AND MEET WITH THEM IN JUNE, THE QUESTIONS THAT WE WILL ASK THEM TO CONSIDER WHEN CHOOSING A PROJECT IS, WILL THIS PROJECT HONOR THE UNDERTOLD HISTORIES OF THE LEGACY NEIGHBORHOODS? IS THIS HISTORICALLY RELEVANT? DOES IT ENCOURAGE COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND OFFER OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENT PARTICIPATION? WILL IT HAVE LONG TERM IMPACT AND BENEFIT? IS IT FEASIBLE WITH REGARD TO TIME COST, LONG TERM MAINTENANCE AND ANYTHING ELSE? AND WILL THE FINAL PRODUCT SUPPORT ONGOING STORYTELLING EFFORTS? SO THE POTENTIAL TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN MIND? AND GRANTED, THIS IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST, OUR CAG MIGHT COME UP WITH SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM THESE, BUT WE WANTED TO GIVE SOME IDEAS TO GET US STARTED AND GET THE CREATIVE JUICES FLOWING. SO ONE IDEA WAS LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT, A COMMUNITY HISTORY EVENT, A COMMUNITY HISTORY PUBLICATION, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. ACTUALLY, IN THAT LITTLE PICTURE AT THE TOP LEFT CORNER WITH THE KIND OF FRAMES AND THE FACES, THAT IS A GRAPHIC NOVEL THAT THE SAN ANTONIO OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION PUT TOGETHER, DETAILING THE HISTORY OF SAN ANTONIO SO THAT WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON THE HISTORY OF EAST MCKINNEY. WE COULD DO A NEIGHBORHOOD ART PROJECT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER OF THOSE PICTURES, THAT THAT IS A UTILITY BOX THAT IS WRAPPED OR PAINTED. I LIVE IN THE CITY OF GARLAND, AND WE HAVE WRAPPED UTILITY BOXES, AND THEY DO THEM SO THAT THEY MATCH WHATEVER THEY'RE NEARBY. SO I LIVE REALLY CLOSE TO HAWAIIAN FALLS IN GARLAND. THEY HAVE A UTILITY BOX ON THE CORNER NEXT TO HAWAIIAN FALLS WITH THE HAWAIIAN HIBISCUS FLOWERS PAINTED ON IT. SO WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND TAILOR THEM TO WHATEVER AREA THEY ARE IN. WE COULD DO AN UNDERTOLD, ANOTHER UNDERTOLD MARKER APPLICATION FOR ANOTHER LOCATION ON THE EAST SIDE, OR ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL IDEAS AS DEVELOPED BY THE CAG. A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS ON HERE THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT. WELL, REALLY JUST THE ONE IS THE HISTORY HARVEST, THE HISTORY HARVEST. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT A COUPLE OF PRESERVATION ORGANIZATIONS HAVE LAUNCHED IN RECENT YEARS, WHERE THEY WILL BASICALLY COME ON SITE AND SAY, ANYBODY WHO HAS A HISTORIC DOCUMENT, PHOTOS, DOCUMENTS, RECORDINGS, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU CAN BRING IT TO US. WE WILL DIGITIZE IT RIGHT THEN AND THERE AND GIVE IT BACK TO YOU. AND THAT WAY WE HAVE THAT HISTORIC RECORD IN PERPETUITY. SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE COULD ORGANIZE THROUGH UNDERTOLD MCKINNEY. THAT'S GREAT. SO LIKE I SAID, YEAR TWO PROGRAM CONTINUATION. THE APPLICATIONS ARE OPEN THROUGH MAY 17TH. AGAIN, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE A HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROFESSIONAL TO SERVE ON THIS COMMITTEE. WE JUST ASK THAT YOU LIVE IN MCKINNEY, THAT YOU ENJOY LEARNING ABOUT MCKINNEY'S HISTORY, THAT YOU CARE ABOUT THE DIVERSITY OF MCKINNEY AND THE TRADITIONS THAT MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SPECIAL, AND THAT YOU WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH LOCAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION EFFORTS. SO WE WANT TO HEAR FROM ANYONE WHO MATCHES THAT DESCRIPTION. AGAIN, OUR APPLICATIONS ARE OPEN ON MCKINNEY, TEXAS.ORG/UNDERTOLD. AND WITH THAT, I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS. OH COME ON. SHE PUT TOGETHER A BIG PRESENTATION. YOU ALL HAVE NOTHING. WELL, I HAVE QUESTIONS. I'LL MAKE A COMMENT. I JUST WHEN I REVIEWED THE MATERIAL, I WAS JUST VERY IMPRESSED WITH ALL THE RESEARCH THAT HAD HAD BEEN DONE. THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT ARE VERY INTERESTING. I MEAN, YOU GET YOU GET INFORMATION AND DATA FROM FROM THOSE AS WELL. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT WAS A COMMUNITY EFFORT. SO, TORI, SO YOU SAID THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF MARKERS THAT THE UNDERTOLD MARKER. AND THEN THERE'S JUST A HISTORIC MARKER, OFFICIAL TEXAS HISTORIC MARKER. SO WHAT RESTRICTIONS OR WHAT REQUIREMENTS COME WITH THOSE? BECAUSE I KNOW IF YOU HAVE A TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION MARKER, THERE'S A LOT OF YES, THEY GET YOUR HANDS ON WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT DO. RIGHT? SO THROUGH THE UNDERTOLD, THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO OPTIONS. YOU CAN GO FOR A SUBJECT MARKER OR YOU CAN GO FOR LIKE A PROPERTY ARCHITECTURAL MARKER. AND CASSIE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON ANY OF THIS. THE UNDERTOLD MARKER, THE ONE THAT WE WENT FOR WAS JUST A SUBJECT MARKER. SO THAT DOES NOT PUT ANY PROTECTIONS ON THE PROPERTY. THAT IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT THAT STORY IS SOLIDIFIED IN THE HISTORIC RECORD FROM HERE AND UNTIL FOREVER, THE ACTUAL LIKE THE REGISTERED TEXAS HISTORIC LANDMARK, I THINK THAT COMES WITH SOME RESTRICTIONS ON THE BUILDING. IF YOU WANTED TO GO, IF WE WERE TO GO FOR AN ARCHITECTURAL TYPE MARKER, THAT WOULD PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THE BUILDING, THOSE ARE MORE DIFFICULT TO DO AS WELL BECAUSE [00:20:01] YOU HAVE TO HAVE PROPERTY OWNER CONSENT. AND SO THAT WE KNEW THAT FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY AND FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE FOR US TO GO FOR A SUBJECT MARKER. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE WE WENT FOR ON THIS ONE. BUT THERE IS THE POTENTIAL THAT IF YOU WANTED TO GO FOR AN ARCHITECTURAL MARKER, YOU COULD DO THAT AND IT WOULD PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THE PROPERTY. SO WHAT CHANGES YOU HAVE TO GET IN BUY IN FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER. YOU HAVE TO HAVE BUY IN FROM THE PROPERTY. YES, EXACTLY. THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD HAVE TO BE ON BOARD. AND SO THIS MARKER WILL GO IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL. YEAH IT WILL. SO THERE'S TWO LITTLE CRAPE MYRTLES WITH THE HOLY FAMILY SCHOOL SIGN IN THE MIDDLE. THERE IS ANOTHER MARKER THAT IS SCHEDULED TO BE PLACED ON ONE SIDE OF THOSE CRAPE MYRTLES, AND THEN OUR MARKER IS GOING TO BE PLACED ON THE OTHER. OKAY. THAT'S NICE. YEAH. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. AND REGARDING THESE ITEMS THAT ARE MOST INTERESTING TO THE FAMILIES AND AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, ONE OF THE ASPECTS OF YOUR RESEARCH, I'M SURE, WILL INCLUDE THE AGRICULTURAL, INDUSTRIAL, INDUSTRIAL BACKGROUND IN MCKINNEY, WHICH IS PARTICULARLY CENTERED IN THE EAST MCKINNEY AREA, THE FLOUR MILL, THE COTTON MILL, THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, NUMEROUS, THE ICE HOUSE THAT'S ON AND SO FORTH, ALL THESE THINGS UNKNOWN TO MOST PEOPLE, AS WELL AS THE TRAIN THAT CAME THROUGH HERE. I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALL THESE THINGS, AND I THINK IT'S REALLY WONDERFUL TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING. THANK YOU. AND I THINK MANY STORIES HAVE YET TO BE TOLD. YEAH, THERE'S SO MANY OUT THERE. AND YEAH, THERE THERE'S A FEW THAT WE KNOW THAT ARE BECOMING MORE WELL KNOWN. THE MARIA LUISA VEGA STORY AND THE STORY OF HOLY FAMILY, DOTY SCHOOL AND THE LINEAGE BACK TO THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN SCHOOLHOUSE IN COLLIN COUNTY. I THINK THOSE STORIES ARE BECOMING MORE POPULAR, BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S EVEN MORE OUT THERE THAT WE DON'T KNOW. MANY OF THE FAMILIES ARE STILL IN THE IN. YES, EXACTLY. AND THEY CAN HELP WITH THIS, I'M SURE. YES. YEAH. AND MEGAN CAN SPEAK TO THAT TOO, BECAUSE WE YEAH. MEGAN WAS ACTUALLY ON OUR COMMUNITY ADVISORY GROUP AND IT WAS A VERY, IT WAS VERY NICE HAVING SOMEONE THAT WAS GENERATIONALLY CONNECTED TO THESE SIDE. YEAH. WE AGREE. SO YEAH, I'LL JUST SAY A LOT OF OUR FAMILIES IN EAST MCKINNEY ARE, YOU KNOW, THERE FOR HAVE BEEN THERE FOR GENERATIONS. AND I'VE SAID THAT HERE BEFORE. BUT SO YEAH, IT IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT THEY CAME FROM, YOU KNOW, THE MCGOWAN'S FROM THE JAEGERS, THE EVANS, YOU KNOW, THOSE FAMILIES THAT HAVE SCHOOLS NAMED AFTER THEM THAT HAVE PARKS NAMED AFTER THEM. AND WE'VE GOT THAT COMMUNITY HERE IN EAST MCKINNEY THAT IS, OUR FAMILIES HAVE BUILT THESE HOMES FOR US, AND WE HAVE CONTINUED TO TO MAINTAIN THEM. AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME, AND ESPECIALLY THROUGH THIS PROJECT, SOMETHING THAT IF. TORI, WILL YOU GO BACK TO THE LIST OF PROPERTIES? YEAH. SO SOMETHING THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT INITIALLY UPON STARTING THIS PROJECT WAS, YOU KNOW, WHICH ONE DO WE PICK? RIGHT? THEY'RE ALL SO VALUABLE. AND WE REALLY CAME DOWN BETWEEN DOTY SCHOOL AND HOLY FAMILY SCHOOL. AND I WILL SAY THAT I THINK I MENTIONED THIS HERE BEFORE, BUT THE MALVERN HOUSE UP ON THROCKMORTON, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM DOTY SCHOOL, WHAT IS CURRENTLY HOLY FAMILY SCHOOL HAS NOW BEEN TORN DOWN. AND SO THE WORK THAT THAT THIS PROJECT IS DOING. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, PROTECTIONS ARCHITECTURALLY FOR THESE THINGS WHEN WE'RE DOING A SUBJECT MARKER. BUT THE WORK IS SO RELEVANT RIGHT NOW. ALL OF THE HOMES, THE PROPERTIES ON THE EAST SIDE ARE AT RISK RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW LIKE TAXES ARE A THING. AND IT'S VERY COMMON FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE EAST SIDE TO BE TAXED OUT OF THEIR HOMES THAT THEY'VE HAD GENERATIONALLY. AND THEN NOW WITH ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMING OVER THE RAILROAD, THERE IS MORE AND MORE PRESSURE, RIGHT, FOR THOSE FAMILIES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOREVER. AND SO THIS WORK IS IT'S IT'S JUST VERY TIMELY. AND I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT TORI IS AN AMAZING ADVOCATE FOR EAST MCKINNEY WITHIN THE CITY. AND I'M REALLY PROUD TO HAVE HAD EVEN JUST A LITTLE PART IN THIS. AND I AM PROUD AND THANKFUL OF FOR TORI. AND I'M EXCITED THAT WE'RE CONTINUING THIS IN SOME WAY, BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS SO MUCH MORE TO DO, AND THE MORE WE CAN DO NOW, THE THE MORE WE'LL BE ABLE TO SAVE AND PROTECT OVER THERE. SO GOOD [00:25:06] STUFF, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES, THERE IS RELIEF THAT THE CITY PROVIDES. YEAH. WHICH WE HAVE SOME SAY OVER WITH THE. BUT IF MORE PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THAT AND MADE APPLICATION, THAT WOULD HELP AT LEAST UNBURDEN THEM A LITTLE BIT JUST FROM CITY TAXES, NOT NECESSARILY SCHOOL TAXES. YEAH. RIGHT. DEFINITELY. YEAH. AND THAT'S SOMETHING TORI AND I HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT, CASSIE AND I TOO, IS, YOU KNOW, THE CITY DOES HAVE PROGRAMS. WE HAVE THE NEEDS, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE THINGS. AND HOW DO WE GET THAT OUT? AND I REALLY, I THINK WHEN I FIRST SAT ON THIS BOARD AS AN ALTERNATE AND PAULA WAS HERE TALKING ABOUT H AND I, Z AND I REMEMBER ASKING, HOW DO PEOPLE ON THE EAST SIDE KNOW ABOUT THIS? YOU KNOW, LIKE, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THIS BEFORE. AND SO I THINK WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS TOWARDS THAT. IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT TASK, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WITH THE H AND Z, THERE'S THAT FINANCIAL REQUIREMENT, RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO HAVE PUT IN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WORK AND, AND SO ON. BUT, BUT YEAH, THAT IS SOMETHING WE'VE DEFINITELY TALKED ABOUT IS HOW DO WE GET THAT INFORMATION MORE? YOU KNOW, MORE WELL KNOWN IN THE EAST SIDE, BECAUSE THAT WILL DO A LOT FOR HELPING PEOPLE IN THAT TIME WHEN THEY FEEL LIKE THE ONLY OPTION THEY HAVE IS TO SELL AND LEAVE. BUT SO THE SO THE EAST SIDE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT IS CALLED LEGACY KEEPERS. NO. SO THE LEGACY KEEPERS OF OLD EAST MCKINNEY WAS STARTED BACK, I WANT TO SAY, IN 2019. AND WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY COLLECTED ORAL HISTORIES AND VIDEO AND JUST COLLECTED ARTIFACTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. PRESERVING HISTORY. YES. AND SO THAT IS STILL RUN BY BETH BENTLEY, BUT THEY'VE KIND OF STEPPED BACK A LITTLE BIT AND ACTUALLY DOING MUCH. BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS THE MCKINNEY LEGACY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. SO MHAMLNA. OKAY. IS THAT AND THAT'S GOT TO BE A GREAT TOOL TO HELP GET THIS WORD OUT. YES, I THINK SO. AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE I HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD OF THAT SINCE WE FOUNDED IN 2023, I THINK. AND IT'S KIND OF THE SAME ISSUE THAT TORI HAD BROUGHT UP OF, YOU KNOW, YOU GIVE PEOPLE INFORMATION AND THEN YOU SAY, BYE, I'M LEAVING. AND IT'S GETTING PEOPLE THERE THAT ARE INVESTED, AND THERE'S BUILDING THAT REASON FOR PEOPLE TO FEEL INVESTED. AND SO THAT'S STILL BEEN A BARRIER, EVEN WITH THOSE OF US THAT LIVE THERE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, TALK TO SOME NEIGHBORS. RIGHT. BUT IT IS DEFINITELY A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD, WE HAD JUSTIN AND JERRY COME OVER AND ADDRESS. YEAH, THE MH NA YEAH, WHICH WAS FANTASTIC. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE, BUT I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T THINK SO. JUSTIN HAS COME TO SEVERAL MEETINGS, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IN THE SAME WAY THAT MH NA HAS DONE IT, WHERE THEY HAVE DONE LIKE QUESTION AND ANSWER. RIGHT. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. YEAH, YEAH. I THINK THAT WOULD BE VALUABLE. YEAH, YEAH. ALRIGHTY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR TORI? I JUST WANT TO ECHO THE CONGRATULATIONS. I WORK FOR AN ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTING FIRM IN PERMITTING AND PLANNING. SO I'M ON THE TEXAS HISTORIC SITES ATLAS EVERY WEEK. AND IT'S EXCITING THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER LITTLE DOT ON THAT MAP. SO I ALSO I NEGLECTED TO MENTION THAT WE WE GOT THE FIRST UNDERTOLD MARKER IN COLLIN COUNTY. SO WE WE'VE RESERVED THAT TITLE. THAT'S OURS. THAT'S OURS TO HOLD FOREVER. SO HOW MANY ARE THERE? DO YOU KNOW IN THE STATE? I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I KNOW THEY AWARD BETWEEN 10 AND 15 EVERY YEAR. AND THIS PROGRAM WAS LAUNCHED IN NOT SUPER RECENTLY. I'M NOT SURE WHAT YEAR IT WAS LAUNCHED, BUT IF YOU GO ON THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION, YES. IF YOU GO ON THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION'S WEBSITE AND LOOK UP UNDERTOLD MARKER, THEY HAVE A LITTLE MAP ON THERE THAT SHOWS WHERE ALL THE MARKERS ARE. AND IF YOU ZOOM INTO COLLIN COUNTY, I THINK THE CLOSEST ONE WE HAVE IS IN IRVING. AND THEN NOW WE HAVE OURS RIGHT IN MCKINNEY. SO VERY EXCITING. WELL, IT TAKES A LOT TO GET THAT INERTIA GOING FORWARD. YES. YEAH. COMMEND YOU ON THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE AND THE SUPPORT YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO GENERATE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. IT'S FANTASTIC. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. IT'S AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT. WE APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. [HP2026-0035 Consider/Discuss/Act on the Request by Patrick Hickey for Approval of a Historic Marker for the Property Located at 910 W Hunt Street] [00:30:01] LET'S MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA. NOW WE'LL START WITH ITEM NUMBER H, P2026-0035. CONSIDER, DISCUSS ACT ON THE REQUEST BY PATRICK HICKEY FOR APPROVAL OF A HISTORIC MARKER FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 910 WEST HUNT STREET IN RENO WILL MAKE THE PRESENTATION. OF COURSE YOU WILL. WELL, GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS. SO WE ARE HERE FIRST TO PRESENT FOR A HISTORIC MARKER APPLICATION FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 910 WEST HUNT STREET. THE OWNER IS NOT HERE THIS EVENING. BUT THIS IS THE CHARLES SELF HOUSE AND IT WAS CONSTRUCTED CIRCA 1900. IT IS A FOUR ROOM. ORIGINALLY IT WAS A FOUR ROOM WOOD FRAME STRUCTURE WITH A SIDE GABLE ROOF, A SMALL FRONT PORCH, AND ON A PIER AND BEAM FOUNDATION. AND IT IS A MEDIUM PRIORITY HOUSE. AND IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN THE NATIONAL FOLK STYLE. AND THE DEFINITION OF MEDIUM PRIORITY MEANS THAT IT CONTRIBUTES SIGNIFICANTLY TO LOCAL HISTORY OR BROADER HISTORICAL PATTERNS. BUT ALTERATIONS HAVE DIMINISHED THE RESOURCES, INTEGRITY, AND ONE OF THE ALTERATIONS THAT WERE MADE TO THIS PROPERTY IS THAT SIDE ADDITIONS AT SOME POINT IN HISTORY. BUT I WASN'T SURE EXACTLY WHEN I COULDN'T FIND IT ON THE SANBORN MAPS. AND YOU DO HAVE THE FULL HISTORICAL NARRATIVE INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKET, BUT JUST A FEW THINGS THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT HERE IS THAT THE HOME SITS ON WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY THE BRADLEY SURVEY OF 1855, AND THE BRADLEY FAMILY WAS AMONG THE FIRST 200 WHO SETTLED IN PETERS COLONY, AND THE HOME ITSELF, THOUGH, WASN'T CONSTRUCTED UNTIL AROUND 1900, AND IT WAS CONSTRUCTED BY THOMAS, I BELIEVE DIES DDS I'M NOT SURE HOW TO PRONOUNCE HIS LAST NAME. AND THEN JUST A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT CHARLES SELF, WHO THE PROPERTY IS BEING NAMED AFTER. HE WAS ACTUALLY A TRUCK DRIVER FOR IN COLLIN COUNTY FOR THE JP DOW HARDWARE STORE STARTING IN 1920, WHICH WAS REALLY INTERESTING SIMPLY BECAUSE NOT VERY MANY PEOPLE WERE ACTUALLY DRIVING MOTORIZED VEHICLES, MUCH LESS AN ACTUAL TRUCK. SO IT WAS A PRETTY UNIQUE CAREER PATH FOR HIM. AND THEN HE PURCHASED THIS HOME IN 1933, AND HE ENDED UP OPENING HIS OWN FURNITURE STORE IN 1937 ON AT 205 EAST VIRGINIA STREET IS WHERE HE OPENED HIS HOUSE. AND THAT LITTLE AD THERE FROM FROM HIS FURNITURE STORE, FROM THE NEWSPAPER, WHICH WAS WHICH WAS INTERESTING. IT GIVES A LITTLE LIST OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HE SOLD. WHERE WAS THE SAFEWAY GROCERY? I DON'T KNOW. WELL, HE WAS TWO DOORS DOWN FROM IT. HE WAS TWO DOORS DOWN FROM IT. YEAH. EAST OF SAFEWAY YOU SAID 205, EAST VIRGINIA, 205 EAST VIRGINIA. OKAY. AND SO I, I WANT TO SAY THAT THAT ADDITION WAS ADDED IN THE 1930S, EARLY 1930S. AND THEN THE REST OF THE HOUSE WAS LEFT PRETTY MUCH AS IS UNTIL THE CURRENT OWNER ADDED AN ADDITION IN THE REAR IN 2023. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR RENA WITH REGARD TO THE APPLICATION OR ANY COMMENTS? IS THIS. AND FORGIVE ME, I SHOULD KNOW THIS, BUT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE LOOKS LIKE THE ONE THAT THEY PUT THIS HUGE ADDITION IN THE BACK. IS THAT THE HOUSE? I DON'T THINK IT WAS A VERY BIG ADDITION. AND I'M AND AGAIN, IT WAS IN 2023. I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG IT WAS. I DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT. I DON'T THINK IT'S. BECAUSE IF IT'S A HOUSE THAT I'M THINKING, IT'S COMPLETELY CHANGED THE HOUSE. I MEAN, THERE'S NO. TO ME, IT DOESN'T LOOK HISTORIC AT ALL. BUT I JUST THE ONLY BASIS THAT IT LOOKED LIKE THE FRONT ENTRYWAY LOOKED EXACTLY LIKE THAT HOUSE. YOU KNOW, WHICH HOUSE I'M TALKING ABOUT. AND IT HAS LIKE A HUGE I MEAN, THEY PROBABLY TRIPLED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOUSE A HUGE, HUGE LOT. IT'S THE ONE THAT GOES WAY, WAY BACK, RIGHT? YES. IT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE ALONG THAT LIKE FIRE ROAD BACK THERE. AND IT HAS THE I MEAN, IT BUTTS UP AGAINST THE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT FIRE ROAD IS WITH THE NAME OF IT IS PROBABLY LOGAN. DO YOU HAVE A [00:35:01] PICTURE OF THE ADDITION? I DON'T BECAUSE WHEN WE WHEN WE'RE TAKING PHOTOS THERE, IT'S ONLY FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY. SO DO WE KNOW WHEN THIS INDIVIDUAL BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY? 20 2320 230 YEAH. MAYBE SO. I'M JUST LOOKING THROUGH THE APPLICATION. THAT TOM PUT TOGETHER. BUT IT'S STILL IT'S JUST THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE THAT WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED WITH. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS A DIFFERENCE. THIS MAYBE IS A DIFFERENT HOUSE. YEAH. I DON'T BELIEVE THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE REALLY CHANGED THAT MUCH. YOU CAN SEE THE 1985 PHOTO AT THE TOP LEFT AND THEN THE BOTTOM RIGHT FROM 2023, AND THAT'S FROM OUR 2023 HISTORIC RESOURCES SURVEY PHOTO. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S REALLY CHANGED SINCE THEN, BUT THAT BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK THE SAME AS THE ABOVE. CAN WE GO BACK TO THE THE PREVIOUS ONE OF TODAY? I REALLY THINK IT'S THAT HOUSE. I COULD BE WRONG. I COULD BE WRONG. I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE HOUSE I'M THINKING OF. THAT ADDITION WAS ON THAT ON THAT LEFT SIDE. YEAH. ON GOOGLE MAPS THERE IS SOMETHING IN IN THE LEFT THERE. YEAH. BUT FROM THE FRONT YOU DON'T REALLY SEE IT. I GUESS I THINK IT IS BECAUSE IT HAS THAT WALKWAY. IT HAS THAT POT IN THE FRONT. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT DOES LOOK LIKE I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S THAT I'M, I WOULD I'M 99.999% SURE THAT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSE WHEN BRADLEY AND WADDELL. RIGHT? YES. ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN. YES. YEAH. YEAH. IT WOULD BE THE NORTH SIDE BECAUSE IT'S AN E&EN NUMBER. IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 22 ON THE APPLICATION, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S AN ADDITION THAT GOES WAY BACK FROM THE FLOOR PLAN. I MEAN, IT LOOKS NICE, BUT I MEAN, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF MAINTAINING THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROPERTY, TO ME IT DOESN'T LOOK ANYTHING LIKE THE ORIGINAL OR EVEN THE 1985 ELEVATION. BUT THAT'S THAT'S MY $0.02. YEAH. THAT'S FAIR. OKAY. DOES THE BACK OF THAT RISE WAY ABOVE THE EXISTING ROOF LINE? DO YOU REMEMBER? IT IS ABOVE IT. LIKE YOU CAN'T THOUGH. YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE HOW BIG IT IS UNTIL YOU GO PAST THE HOUSE, UNTIL YOU GO DOWN AND LOOK IN FRANCIS, OUR PROPERTY BACKS UP BEHIND FRANCIS. SO IF I'M LIKE, I'M WALKING TOWARDS THAT WAY. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IT'S JUST LIKE THIS WALL OF HOUSE. YEAH. DID YOU FIND IT? YEAH. I MEAN, I ASSUME THEY, THEY RECEIVED THE, THE PROPER APPROVALS FOR WHEN THAT, WHEN THEY DID THE CONSTRUCTION ON IT. CORRECT. YEAH. SORRY. I WAS JUST LOOKING THROUGH OUR, THROUGH OUR RECORDS ON IT. AND THEY DID GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND THE COA PROCESS. IT'S GOT AN ADDITION ON THE REAR THAT DOES GO TO THE OTHER SIDE. SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS PICTURE RIGHT HERE, IT WOULD ACTUALLY, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 2023. SO WE WOULD HAVE APPROVED THAT. WELL, SOME OF US I GUESS NOT. OKAY. JAMES, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? I THINK IT REPRESENTS SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY. I'D LIKE IT. I UNDERSTAND. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? YEAH. LISA YOU'RE RIGHT FROM THE FLOOR PLAN. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE ADDITION ADDS MORE THAN 100% TO THE. WHERE ARE YOU FINDING THAT? KIMBERLY? IT'S ON PAGE 22 OF THE APPLICANT SUBMITTAL. OH, I MUST BE LOOKING AT THE WRONG. NO, IT'S. SO IT'S ON THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE. IT SAYS THE NUMBER. OH, SORRY. IT'S PAGE 22. IT IS. I'M NOT REAL GOOD WITH TECHNOLOGY. YOU PROBABLY NOTICED THAT. YEAH. GRANDPA. OVER HERE. JUST HAD TO GET A NEEDLE IN. IT'S ACTUALLY [00:40:06] PAGE 50 OF 61. THERE WE GO. OKAY, NOW WE'RE GETTING THERE. WAS THAT IT? THERE YOU GO. WOW. OKAY, THERE WE GO. NOW I CAN SEE. OKAY, SO THAT'S THE ORIGINALS ON PAGE 20. NINE. YEA, THE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT PAGE THAT 22, THE GRAY IS THE ORIGINAL FOOTPRINT. WHAT I WILL SAY FOR NOW IS THAT TYPICALLY IT DOESN'T LOOK AT PREVIOUS ADDITIONS. IT'S NOT EVEN GETTING A HISTORIC MARKER ON YOUR HOME IS ABOUT GETTING THE, THE HISTORY ACTUALLY TRANSCRIBED AND PUT ON THE RECORD. IT DOESN'T TECHNICALLY AUTHORIZE OR APPROVE THAT YOUR HOUSE IS ANY MORE SIGNIFICANT OR HAS MORE HISTORICAL INTEGRITY THAN ANY OTHER HOUSE ON THE BLOCK. IT'S JUST THAT YOU TOOK THE TIME AND EFFORT TO ACTUALLY DOCUMENT THE HOUSE WHERE IT IS AS IT STANDS NOW. SO JUST AS A POINT OF INTEREST FOR THE MARKER APPLICATION, I CAN TELL YOU THIS TAX BASE IS GOING TO BE A LOT HIGHER NOW. ALSO NOT SOMETHING WE USUALLY REVIEW. WELL, WHEN IT WAS ONLY 1000FTâ– !S. I'M SURE IT WASN'T WASN'T WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE. YEAH. WELL, IF THERE'S ANY MORE NOT ANY MORE DISCUSSION. CAN I HEAR A MOTION? FOR APPROVAL OR DENIAL? I MOVE TO APPROVE. KIMBERLY. YES. ALL RIGHT. A MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER WOLF TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND BOARD MEMBER KENNEDY WITH THE SECOND. LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE, THEN. THE LAST THING I JUST REALLY STRUGGLE WITH THAT I REALLY DO. ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY FOR APPROVAL OF THE HISTORIC. MARKER. THANKS FOR CLARIFYING THAT, BECAUSE THAT IS NOT WHAT I WAS AWARE OF. NO, THAT'S TOTALLY FINE. I THINK THAT IS CORRECT. ME, KATHY, BUT IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM HOW LIKE, IF IT WAS A TRUE LIKE TEXAS HISTORIC MARKER, THAT WOULD BE YEAH. SO WHEN THE PROGRAM IS ESSENTIALLY ABOUT RECORDING THE HISTORY THAT WE HAVE OF THESE PROPERTIES AND THEN BEING ABLE TO KEEP AND MAINTAIN THEM, THE REASON THAT IT EXPANDS PAST THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT OLDER HOMES, BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THEY ARE UP TO THE STANDARD OF A RECORDED TEXAS LANDMARK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. OKAY. GOTCHA. NO. IT'S GOOD. GOOD [HP2026-0036 Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request by Patrick Hickey for Approval of a Historic Marker Neighborhood Improvement Zone Program Tax Exemption (Level I) for the Property Located at 910 W Hunt Street.] CLARIFICATION. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER HP2026-0036. CONSIDER, DISCUSS, DISCUSS, ACT ON A REQUEST BY PATRICK HICKEY FOR APPROVAL OF A HISTORIC MARKER NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT ZONE PROGRAM TAX EXEMPTION LEVEL ONE FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 910 WEST HUNT STREET MARINA. ONCE AGAIN. ONCE AGAIN, HERE I AM AGAIN. OKAY, SO NOW THAT WE HAVE THE MARKER APPROVED FOR THE PROPERTY AT 910 WEST HUNT, THE OWNER IS ALSO APPLYING FOR THE LEVEL ONE HISTORIC TAX EXEMPTION THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT FOR THIS HOUSE. SO AGAIN, THE HOUSE ITSELF WAS CONSTRUCTED CIRCA 1900 IN THE NATIONAL FOLK STYLE. IT IS A MEDIUM PRIORITY HOME. AND FOR THIS LEVEL ONE, THE CRITERIA FOR A LEVEL ONE, THE PROPERTY IS RECEIVED A HISTORIC MARKER DESIGNATION, WHICH WE DID JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO. AND THERE ALSO NEEDS TO BE A MINIMUM INVESTMENT OF $10,000 IN BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE PROPERTY WITHIN THREE YEARS OF THE DATE OF THE INCENTIVE REQUEST. SO FOR THIS PROJECT, THERE WAS OVER $10,000, WHICH INCLUDED FOUNDATION REPAIRS, A NEW ROOF AND A DECK SUBSTRATE TO REPLACE THE ROOF. AND THOSE IMPROVEMENTS TOTALED $17,405. AND STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST BY THE HOMEOWNERS AND FOUND THAT IT DOES MEET THE MINIMUM ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS OF THE PROGRAM AND THE FOREGONE FOR THE TOTAL TAX EXEMPTION. AS OF RIGHT NOW, IF YOU INCLUDE THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, IS $315,608. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. OKAY. [00:45:03] ANY QUESTIONS FOR REYNA? OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE THEN OR DENY. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE TAX EXEMPTION. SIR. A SECOND, I SECOND, SECOND. THANK YOU. LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE. THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER [HP2026-0037 Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request by Owner Bruce Imig for a Certificate of Appropriateness for Demolition of a House After an Interior Fire Located at 326 S Kentucky.] HP2026-0037. CONSIDER, DISCUSS ACT ON REQUEST BY OWNER BRUCE IMAGE OR EXCUSE ME IF I MISPRONOUNCE THAT FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR DEMOLITION OF A HOUSE AFTER AN INTERIOR FIRE LOCATED AT 326 SOUTH KENTUCKY ARENA. HELLO AGAIN. YOU'RE BACK, I AM BACK. SO YES, THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 326 SOUTH KENTUCKY STREET. THE HOMEOWNERS ARE OUT OF TOWN AND WERE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE FOR THE MEETING THIS EVENING. SO THIS HOUSE, JUST TO GIVE YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, THERE WAS A FIRE IN THIS HOME LAST YEAR, BUT THE HOME ITSELF WAS CONSTRUCTED AROUND 1920. THE 2023 SURVEY DID CONCLUDE THAT IT WAS A LOW PRIORITY HOUSE, WHICH MEANS THAT THE HOUSE TYPIFIES A COMMON LOCAL BUILDING FORM OR ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, WITH NO IDENTIFIED HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS, AND IS A MODERATE TO SEVERELY ALTERED RESOURCE. SO STAFF DID WORK WITH THE PREVIOUS OWNERS OF THIS HOME EARLY LAST YEAR, RIGHT AFTER THIS FIRE TOOK PLACE, WHICH WAS AROUND MARCH OR APRIL, AND A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS WAS ISSUED FOR REPAIRS AND REHABILITATION OF THE HOME, INCLUDING A NEW ROOF. HOWEVER, WHEN THEY WENT IN AND CLEANED UP AFTER THE FIRE AND THEY REMOVED THE DRYWALL, THAT'S WHEN THEY DISCOVERED ALL OF THE TERMITE DAMAGE AND MISSING PIECES OF THE FRAMING WATER DAMAGE. AND THEN, OF COURSE, FIRE DAMAGE. AND SO THEY HAD A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER COME IN TO DO AN ASSESSMENT OF THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE HOME. AND THIS IS IN YOUR PACKET. YOU CAN READ IT. BUT THAT ENGINEER REPORT DID DETERMINE THAT IT WAS NOT STRUCTURALLY SOUND ENOUGH OR SAFE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING ADDING A NEW ROOF ONTO THE ROOF, ONTO THIS HOME. BECAUSE OF THE DAMAGE THE HOMEOWNER DID AT THAT TIME, CHOOSE TO SELL THE PROPERTY. AND SO NOW THE CURRENT OWNERS HAVE COME IN, THEY HAVE THIS, THE ALSO THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING REPORT. I BELIEVE THAT THEY ALSO DID THEIR OWN REPORT AS WELL. AGAIN, FINDING THAT THE WATER DAMAGE AND THE WEAKENING OF THE STRUCTURE, THE TERMITE DAMAGE, AND THEN ALL OF THE DAMAGE FROM THE FIRE, IT DOES MAKE THIS STRUCTURE UNSAFE. IT CAN'T MEET CURRENT SAFETY STANDARDS, AND REPAIRS REALLY AREN'T ABLE TO BE MADE WITHOUT COMPLETELY REDOING ALL THE FRAMING, AND WHICH IS BASICALLY A DEMOLITION AT THIS POINT. SO STAFF DOES RECOMMEND AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE SOME OF THE DAMAGE THERE. YOU CAN SEE LIKE PORTIONS DOWN AT THE BOTTOM ARE COMPLETELY MISSING. AND STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST DUE TO THE SAFETY OF THE INTEGRITY OF THE HOUSE. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. ANY QUESTIONS FOR RAYNA? I WAS LOOKING AT SUBMITTAL FROM LIGHTHOUSE ENGINEERING AND THEY PUT IN IN QUOTES TEAR DOWN CONDITION. IS THAT A IS THAT A FORMAL CERTIFICATION? DO YOU KNOW? I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. NO, I THINK THAT WAS JUST THEIR OPINION. THEY DID SAY THAT'S BASED ON VISUAL OBSERVATIONS AND SOME MEASUREMENTS. YEAH. THOSE ARE WEASEL WORDS. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH WEASEL WORDS. I JUST WANT TO SAY I AM DISAPPOINTED THAT THE OWNERS AREN'T HERE. JUST I WHENEVER WE HAVE SOMETHING COME FORWARD LIKE THIS, I ALWAYS LIKE TO ASK THE OWNERS TO SPEAK AND SHARE THEIR, YOU KNOW, PERSPECTIVE. I KNOW MISS BETTY HAS IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, ASKED WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS IN THE FUTURE? AND I AM REALLY HESITANT ON THIS ONE JUST BECAUSE THIS LOOKS LIKE [00:50:01] IT'S OWNED BY A COMPANY OF BROOKSIDE BUILDERS, IS THE THE APPLICANT AND THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, IS ALWAYS A. KIND OF A LIKE A RED FLAG TO ME PERSONALLY. BUT I MEAN, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON HOW REHABILITATION WORKS. SO I WILL, YOU KNOW, GO WITH THE EXPERTS, BUT I JUST AM DISAPPOINTED, I THINK, IN NOT HAVING THE THE APPLICANT HERE. AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HARD EITHER WAY, BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS OWNERS, THEY LIVE OUT OF STATE AS WELL. AND THIS WAS A RENTAL PROPERTY. SO I GUESS MY SENSE HERE IS THAT I DON'T I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING DISINGENUOUS ABOUT THIS REQUEST. OF COURSE IT IS FROM A BUILDER. AND SO THEY HAVE A MIND FOR PUTTING SOMETHING IN THERE AND DEVELOPING IT. BUT THIS IS LOW PRIORITY. IT APPEARS TO BE IN VERY POOR SHAPE BY AN ENGINEERING FIRM, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER. HE PUT A STAMP ON IT. SO I USED TO HAVE ONE OF THOSE. I DON'T ANYMORE, BUT YOU DIDN'T JUST PLACE IT WILLY NILLY. IT WAS IT WAS A SERIOUS THING. AND MY SENSE HERE IS THAT THERE'S NOTHING GOOD THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THIS HOUSE, CONTINUE TO STAND THAT THAT IT IT'S PROBABLY REASONABLE TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE THEM THE APPROVAL. IT DOESN'T EVEN LOOK LIKE THE WINDOWS ARE OLD. WINDOWS LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE NEW WINDOWS. ALUMINUM WINDOWS PROBABLY. SO I'M I WOULD FEEL LIKE THIS IS PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE APPROVED, BUT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM SOMEBODY. COULD I SAY SOMETHING? NO. I KNEW I SHOULDN'T HAVE ASKED. LET'S DO IT. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I DO WISH THE OWNERS WERE HERE OR THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, BECAUSE WHEN I READ IT, I WASN'T REAL CLEAR ON HOW MUCH DAMAGE THE FIRE HAD ACTUALLY DONE. I MEAN, IT STRUCTURALLY DEFICIENT AND THE TERMITE DAMAGE. SO IT KIND OF READ TO ME MORE LIKE MALICIOUS BY NEGLECT. AND THEN THE FIRE, OF COURSE, DID DO SOME DAMAGE TO THE INTERIOR. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE LOOK AT THE OUTSIDE. SO I DON'T, I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THAT? LIKE I SAY, I KNOW IT'S LOW PRIORITY. IT YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT IN GOOD SHAPE, BUT HOW MUCH DAMAGE DID THE FIRE DO AS OPPOSED TO THE CONDITION THAT IT WAS IN PRIOR TO THE FIRE? DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON? I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY PRETTY SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT IN 2017 AND 2018, THERE WAS A FULL RENOVATION OF THIS HOUSE ON THE INTERIOR AND THE EXTERIOR, A ROOF, A NEW ROOF HAD BEEN PUT ON. OKAY. AND SO IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THIS AT ALL. IT LOOKED ACTUALLY VERY NICE. AND SO AGAIN, WHEN THE FIRE HAPPENED AND THEY WENT IN AND DID THE CLEANUP OF IT TO THE INTENT WAS NOT TO DEMOLISH THE HOUSE. THE INTENT WAS TO JUST REHABILITATE IT AS IT WAS BEFORE. BUT ONCE ALL THAT DRYWALL CAME DOWN, THAT'S WHEN THEY SAW ALL THE INTERNAL DAMAGE, WHICH YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE UNLESS YOU TAKE THE DRYWALL DOWN. SO. RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY. WELL, THAT THAT THAT'S HELPFUL. AND YOU DID SAY SO THEY REPLACED THE ROOF IN 2018, BUT THEN YOU SAID THAT THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER DETERMINED THAT IT COULD NOT WITHSTAND A ROOF REPAIR TODAY BECAUSE OF THE FIRE. RIGHT? YES. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. WELL, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOVE TO APPROVE. OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND. LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHTY. THAT IS THE END OF THAT THAT SECTION. SO DO WE HAVE ANY GENERAL CITIZEN COMMENTS REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE THE CASE. DID THE BOARD MEMBERS OR STAFF HAVE [BOARD AND STAFF COMMENTS] ANY FURTHER BUSINESS TO DISCUSS? OH COME ON MEGAN, DO YOU HAVE DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE CEASE AND DESIST SITUATION? DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ON THAT? YOU MEAN THE STOP WORK ORDER? SO EVERYTHING THAT WE SENT IN THE EMAIL IS KIND OF THE MOST UPDATE THAT WE CAN GIVE. I WAS [00:55:01] JUST CURIOUS. BUT YEAH, WE DID LOOK INTO IT AND ACTIONS HAVE BEEN TAKEN. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. LET'S SEE. I WAS GOING TO ASK, I KNOW YOU SHOWED US KASEY, THE PROGRESS ON CLG. WHERE ARE WE ON THAT? WE BECAME A CLG. I KNOW WE DID. WHAT WHAT ARE WE DOING BEYOND THAT? RIGHT. SO WE THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE CAN DO. WE CAN HAVE A NEW SET OF ORDINANCES POTENTIALLY FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. WE CAN CONVERT FROM A BOARD TO A COMMISSION IF IT WAS SO DESIRED. THERE ARE GENERAL THINGS LIKE THAT. SO ALL OF THAT WAS KIND OF ADDRESSED IN THE APPLICATION. THEY MADE SURE THAT OUR BOARD MET REQUIREMENTS, EVEN IF IT WAS CALLED A BOARD, JUST LIKE A COMMISSION WOULD. THE LATEST THING THAT WE'VE DONE IS WE DID APPLY FOR DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. THROUGH THE CLG GRANT PROCESS, WE HAVE BEEN AWARDED THAT, AND WE ARE LOOKING AT, I BELIEVE I JUST GOT AN EMAIL EARLIER TODAY SAYING LATER THIS MONTH THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO SIGN THAT CONTRACT. AWESOME. THAT'S TERRIFIC. WELL, GOOD. I'M GLAD THAT'S REALLY MOVING FORWARD. I HAD NO DOUBT THAT IT WAS NOT, BUT OR I HAD NO DOUBT THAT IT WASN'T MOVING FORWARD. JUST UNFORTUNATELY, MY ADDLED BRAIN DOESN'T ALLOW ME TO KEEP UP WITH STUFF LIKE THAT, AS MEGAN OFTEN REMINDS ME. YEAH. DOESN'T TAKE MUCH TO GET A COMMENT OUT OF YOU. RT ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD OR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. KATHY, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NOPE. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING? I MOVE TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. OKAY. AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND, ALL RIGHT, LOOK AT THAT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON IT. ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.