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JUST TO THE OTHER SIDE. GOOD, GOOD, GOOD. HAD THE OLD SEWER. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. IT'S
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THE TIME. RIGHT NOW IS 546. AND THIS IS THE START OF THE MCKINNEY URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT BOARD MEETING. I WOULD LIKE TO START. I'M GONNA DO A LITTLE SWITCH UP HERE ON THE ON THE[BOARD AND MANAGER COMMENTS]
SCHEDULING HERE. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE LAST PART OF THE MEETING AND START WITH BOARD AND MANAGER COMMENTS. HELLO EVERYONE. I'M JASMINE TUCKER, BOARD MANAGER, TRANSIT ADMINISTRATOR. I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A SECOND AND INTRODUCE OUR NEWEST BOARD MEMBER, SHAI ROOS FROM THE CITY OF PRINCETON. SHE IS THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, AND SHE WILL BE FILLING THE VACANT SPOT ON OUR BOARD. FOR THE SAKE OF TIME TODAY, I'M NOT GOING TO DO FULL INTRODUCTIONS, BUT WELCOME, SHAI, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING YOU ON OUR BOARD. THANK YOU. SO BEFORE WE GET STARTED, WE HAVE TO SWEAR YOU INTO THE BOARD. SO IF YOU FOLLOW ME UP HERE. GO TO THIS SIDE PROFILE THIS WAY. OKAY. YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ARE YOU ARE YOU OKAY? PERFECT. THANK YOU. IF YOU JUST REPEAT AFTER ME, I, SHAI ROOS, I, SHAI, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR. DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY. THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE. THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES AS A MEMBER OF THE MCKINNEY URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT. THE DUTIES AS A MEMBER OF THE MCKINNEY URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT OF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. STATE OF TEXAS. OF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. STATE OF TEXAS, AND WILL. TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY AND TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES. PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE LAWS OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THIS STATE AND OF THIS STATE. SO HELP ME GOD, SO HELP ME GOD. ALL RIGHT. WELCOME TO THE BOARD. THANK YOU. NEXT, WE WILL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS. SEEING THAT I[PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS]
DON'T HAVE ANYONE HERE SCHEDULED TO SPEAK, I'LL MOVE ON TO THE MR. JONES. THERE'S SOMEBODY POPS UP. STEVEN HAUSER. HEY, FRIEND. HEY, COME ON UP HERE. IT POPPED UP A LITTLE LATE. STEVE, I WASN'T TRYING TO IGNORE YOU. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME. I'M STEVE SPAINHOUR. I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW ME. I JUST WANTED TO SAY, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR DILIGENCE IN EACH ONE OF YOU PAYING ATTENTION TO THE FUNDING AND THE MECHANISMS WE NEED TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED. AND I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO RYAN MCCUTCHEON FROM DART FOR ALL THE ATTENTIVENESS HE'S PROVIDED TO NOT JUST MY SON, BUT ALSO A WHOLE HOST OF FOLKS THAT SOMETIMES RUN INTO BUMPS ALONG THE WAY. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE CARES FUNDING FOR THE ORGANIZATION. I KNOW THAT THE FUNDING IS IS WE'RE SPENDING IT RIGHT. I KNOW THERE'S A GREAT NEED. WE CURRENTLY HAVE THREE CLASSES OF INDIVIDUALS THAT CAN ACCESS THE FUNDING LOW INCOME, DISABLED AND 65 AND OVER. AND I WOULD ASK AS A VETERAN, THAT YOU CONSIDER MAYBE ADDING THE VETERANS AS A CLASS FOR VETERANS AND FAMILY MEMBERS. I THINK IN DOING SO, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE MONEY FROM THE VETERANS COMMISSION THAT WE COULD USE ACROSS THE BOARD, ACROSS THE WHOLE SPECTRUM OF SERVICES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING.IF WE WERE TO ADD THE VETERANS AND VETERAN FAMILY MEMBERS AS A, AS A AS A CLASS TO BE SERVED, I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY AT THE POINT TO OPEN IT UP TO EVERYBODY, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP IT RESTRICTIVE. BUT IT'S VERY HARD SOMETIMES FOR FOLKS THAT WANT TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE PROGRAM TO ACCESS IT, BECAUSE SIMPLY PUT, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF LOW INCOME FAMILIES THAT MEET THE THRESHOLD THAT CAN GET THE SERVICES. SO IT'S KIND OF LIMITED TO, I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE A HOUSEHOLD OF THREE, YOU'RE BARELY MAKING IT, BUT YOU'RE NOT ON THE POVERTY LEVEL, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE SERVICES. SO I THINK BY OPENING IT UP TO AN ADDITIONAL CLASS, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SERVE A LITTLE BIT MORE THE COMMUNITY. BUT I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR DILIGENCE IN TRYING TO GO THROUGH SOME DIFFICULT TIMES AND MAKE SOME DIFFICULT DECISIONS, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[CONSENT ITEMS]
THANKS. THANK YOU. NEXT ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE CONSENT ITEMS. ITEM 26062 SEVEN MINUTES OF THE MCKINNEY TRANSIT DISTRICT BOARD MEETING FROM MAY 2026. IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT. CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND IT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I. I. WANT TO KNOW WHO SECONDED IT. HOW WAS SHE? SECOND. DID[00:05:06]
YOU ASK? DID YOU ASK WHO SECOND? DID YOU GET IT? WE GOT IT AGAIN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.ALL RIGHT. I'LL ABSTAIN AS I WAS IN. OKAY, PERFECT. ONE ABSTAIN. MOTION PASSES. PERFECT.
[26-0628 Consider/Discuss Transit Program Direction]
MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEMS. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH AGENDA ITEM 260628. CONSIDER DISCUSS TRANSIT PROGRAM DIRECTION. GOOD AFTERNOON. BOARD. I HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE PROGRAM DIRECTION. WANT YOU TO CONSIDER AND DISCUSS AMONG YOURSELVES TODAY. AT THE LAST MEETING, WE PRESENTED SOME OPTIONS TO POSSIBLY REDUCE SERVICE AND KIND OF WHAT WE THINK NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO INCREASE REVENUES, POTENTIAL OPTIONS TO REDUCE EXPENDITURES.HIGHLIGHTED THAT CARES FUNDING IS EXPECTED TO BE EXHAUSTED IN FOUR YEARS AT OUR CURRENT RATE.
I WANTED TO JUST REITERATE THAT TO THE BOARD AND SHOW US THESE ARE THE OPTIONS THAT WE PRESENTED LAST TIME. THE BOARD WAS NOT OPEN TO ANY OF THESE OPTIONS AT THE TIME. WE WANT TO KEEP SERVICE THE WAY IT IS. WITH THAT, WE WE ARE SEEKING ONE TIME FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
WE HAVE STARTED THE PROCESS OF FINDING THOSE ADDITIONAL FUNDS. WE HAVE STARTED THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS WITH DIALYSIS CENTERS, MAJOR EMPLOYERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. I DID JUST WANT TO GIVE AN UPDATE THAT WE ARE GOING IN THAT DIRECTION. WITH THAT OUTLOOK. SCENARIO ONE, WE DISCONTINUE THE PROGRAM ONCE THE CARES FUNDING HAS BEEN EXHAUSTED IN FOUR YEARS, BECAUSE WITHOUT CHANGING THE LEVELS OF SERVICE AND WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING, WE WILL BE OUT OF FUNDS WITHIN FOUR YEARS. SCENARIO TWO WE STRETCH OUT THE CARES FUNDING TO EIGHT YEARS BY REDUCING THE RELIANCE ON THE CARES FUNDING. ANOTHER SCENARIO. CONTINUE THE PROGRAM. ONCE THE CARES FUNDING HAS BEEN EXHAUSTED BY MAKING UP THE DIFFERENCE THROUGH MEMBER CITY CONTRIBUTIONS MAKING UP THAT FUNDING GAP. I JUST WANTED TO PUT THIS IN FRONT OF THE BOARD TODAY TO KEEP THIS IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND. THIS IS NOTHING TO ACT ON TODAY, BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY FEEDBACK THAT YOU HAVE FOR STAFF AND ANY FURTHER DIRECTION THAT YOU WANT TO GIVE STAFF AT THIS TIME. I FEEL LIKE SCENARIO THREE IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT. YOU KNOW, FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE OR ONE OF OUR OTHER SOURCES. I THINK THERE'S LOTS OF OPTIONS OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING TO EXTEND THIS AT OUR PACE RIGHT NOW FOR FOUR YEARS, WE'RE AT NINE YEARS OF SPENDING A ONE TIME EXPENSE. EXTENDING THAT OUT WOULD PUT US AT 13 YEARS, 14 YEARS OF SPENDING ONE TIME MONEY AT THE SACRIFICE OF SERVICE. AND I'M NOT PREPARED TO SAY THAT'S IT'S GOING TO BE BETWEEN ZERO AND INFINITY, AND IT'S GOT TO BE A NUMBER. AND SO I LIKE THE PACE WE'RE ON. I THINK WE'RE OFFERING GOOD SERVICE. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, SCENARIO THREE, WE'VE GOT OPTIONS FOR HOW TO MAKE THAT UP WHEN THAT TIME COMES. BUT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DIRECTION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
WELL THANK YOU. THERE'S NO ACTION ON THIS ITEM, JUST PRESENTATION. SO WITH THAT
[26-0629 Consider/Discuss/Act on a Proposal for Transit Service Presented by Dallas Area Rapid Transit]
WE'LL MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 260629. THIS IS TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS AND ACT ON A PROPOSED ON A PROPOSAL FOR TRANSIT SERVICE PRESENTED BY DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT. OKAY.BEFORE RYAN COMES UP HERE AND GIVES HIS PRESENTATION, I JUST WANT TO BRING THIS IN FRONT OF THE BOARD REALLY QUICKLY. SO SOME CLARIFYING POINTS AT THE TIME THAT DART OPENED THEIR PROCUREMENT FOR SUBS FOR THIS PROGRAM, WE STAFF WERE ONLY CONSIDERING DART AS THE ONLY VIABLE OPTION FOR A PROVIDER FOR THIS SERVICE. RECENTLY, IN CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF, IT HAS COME UP THAT THERE ARE OTHER PROVIDERS OUT THERE THAT ARE DELVING INTO THE MICROTRANSIT WORLD. AND CURRENTLY THE PROCUREMENT WAS OPEN FOR A THREE YEAR CONTRACT WITH TWO OPTION YEARS. STAFF WANTS TO BRING THIS TO THE BOARD BEFORE WE KIND OF PULL THE TRIGGER ON THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS STILL THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD AT THIS TIME. BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT, I WANT TO KIND OF DISCUSS SOME PROS AND CONS OF CHANGING IT FROM A THREE YEAR TERM TO POSSIBLY A ONE YEAR TERM WITH OUR CURRENT THREE YEAR TERM, LIKE WE DID THE LAST TIME. SOME PROS TO THAT WOULD BE CONTINUITY OF SERVICE. WE
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WOULDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING WITH OUR SERVICE. WE HAVE MORE NEGOTIATING ROOM WITH WITH DART ON SOME OF THE FEES AND WITH THE SUBCONTRACTORS, WE WOULD HAVE MORE ROOM TO NEGOTIATE THAT FOR A THREE YEAR TERM, AND PRICING WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT. AND A THREE YEAR TERM VERSUS A ONE YEAR TERM. SOME CONS OF A THREE YEAR TERM IS THAT WE'RE LOCKED IN FOR THREE YEARS, AND THERE COULD BE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARISE WITH OTHER TRANSIT AGENCIES. WE DIDN'T REALIZE BEFORE WE GOT INTO THIS, WE DID NOT GO OUT TO BID FOR THIS BECAUSE AT THE TIME, DART WAS THE ONLY VIABLE OPTION. THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER PLAYERS THAT HAVE COME INTO THAT. A ONE YEAR TERM OFFERS US MORE FLEXIBILITY IN IN THE SOONER FUTURE. AND IT COULD IT COULD COST US MORE MONEY AND ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN AT THIS POINT. SO STAFF IS LOOKING FOR DIRECTION AND SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO DO AS FAR AS THE NEXT CONTRACT YEAR. WHERE ARE WE AS FAR AS THREE YEAR TERM ONE YEAR EXTENSIONS ARE? WHERE ARE WE IS EXPIRED. CORRECT. SO WHAT ARE YOU. SO IS THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD. IS THE NOTION THAT WE WOULD EXTEND IT ONE MORE YEAR, I.E. 2027 FOR ONE ADDITIONAL YEAR? TELL ME WHAT THE DECISION POINT IS HERE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. EITHER WE CAN IF THAT IS THE BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. I'M LOOKING. WHEN WOULD WE GET BIDS, THOUGH? I MEAN, FORGIVE ME IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS. WELL. SO DART HAS AN OPEN PROCUREMENT CURRENTLY FOR SUBS. WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE AN ADDENDUM TO THAT TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE THE PRICING WOULD BE DIFFERENT. BUT WE ARE PREPARED TO DO THAT IF THAT IS THE BOARD'S DIRECTION. I GUESS I'M LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE HERE, MARGARET. SORRY. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED BECAUSE WE DID NOT GO OUT FOR AN RFP FOR A TRANSIT PROVIDER. CURRENTLY, WE ARE AT THE END OF OUR THREE YEAR CONTRACT WITH DART. WE HAD TWO EXTENSION YEARS WHICH WERE COMING UP TO THE END OF. AND SO WE DID NOT GO THROUGH AN OPEN RFP PROCESS TO SEE IF DART OR ANOTHER AGENCY WOULD LIKE TO BE OUR PARTNER IN PROVIDING MICROTRANSIT SERVICES. THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS THAT JASMINE IS REFERRING TO RIGHT NOW IS WITH DART, WITH THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD HAVE CONTINUED DOING ANOTHER THREE YEAR CONTRACT WITH TWO OPTION YEARS.AND SO DART HAS MOVED FORWARD WITH THEIR PROCUREMENT PROCESS FOR A SUBCONTRACTOR. AND SO THEY ARE THE ONES THAT THEN PROVIDE US WITH THE SERVICE. AND SO RIGHT NOW THE QUESTION FOR THE BOARD IS, DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE WITH A THREE YEAR CONTRACT WITH TWO OPTION YEARS, OR DO WE WANT TO THEN MOVE TO A ONE YEAR CONTRACT WITH DART WITH POTENTIALLY A ONE YEAR OPTION YEAR? AND SO THE OPTIONS THERE ARE FOR US TO POTENTIALLY GO BACK OUT FOR AN RFP PROCESS IN WHICH DART WOULD THEN POTENTIALLY APPLY FOR OR PROVIDE A PROPOSAL FOR, AND OTHER AGENCIES MAY AS WELL. AND SO THE THERE ARE TWO KIND OF PROCUREMENT PROCESSES, I GUESS.
OKAY. FOR CLARIFICATION. SO IF I LOOK AT IT AS A BINARY CHOICE, WHICH IT MAY NOT BE, IT WOULD BE EITHER HAVING AN APPETITE TO DO A THREE YEAR WITH DART WITH TWO ONE YEAR OR A ONE YEAR WITH DART WITH A ONE YEAR OPTION, WITH THE IDEA THAT IF WE DID THE SECOND ONE OF THOSE, WE WOULD PRETTY QUICKLY START CONSOLIDATING GOING OUT FOR AN RFP. CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I'D HAVE AN APPETITE TO DO. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT? SO JASMINE, TODAY IS FOR PRESENTATION PURPOSES. ARE WE ARE YOU ASKING FOR A DECISION TODAY? I WOULD LIKE CLARIFICATION ON WHAT TERM WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE WITH DART.
YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU WANT TO BRING UP I GUESS, RYAN. YES. HE HE WON'T BE DISCUSSING THAT. HE'S MORE DISCUSSING WHAT THE PROGRAM WILL LOOK LIKE. YEAH. IT'S GOING TO BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT IT IS NOW. BUT I NEED CLARIFICATION SO I CAN GO BACK TO DART AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO IF IF WE ARE IF WE HAVE AN APPETITE FOR A ONE YEAR CONTRACT WITH A ONE YEAR EXTENSION, THAT IS FINE. I JUST NEED TO HAVE AN ABSOLUTE ON THAT. CAN I ASK ONE MORE CLARIFYING POINT? IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF THE RATES THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE OFFERED? IF WE DO SELECT ONE YEAR VERSUS THREE YEARS? I ANTICIPATE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE. OKAY. DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, PERCENTAGE WISE WHAT INCREASE WE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT IF WE ARE NOT AT THIS TIME? WE DON'T HAVE AN IDEA. NO. YEAH. I HAVE A
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QUESTION. HOW MANY OTHER VENDORS WOULD DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD GO WITH AN RFP AT THIS POINT? IF WE IF WE SWITCH TO A ONE YEAR WITH A ONE OPTION, I THINK IT WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT BID ON THIS PROJECT BECAUSE OF THE TURNAROUND TIME THAT'S NEEDED TO GIVE US A GOOD PROPOSAL. WELL, AND IT'S NOT AS ATTRACTIVE FOR THEM TO BID ON SOMETHING THAT'S ONLY A YEAR LONG, POTENTIALLY. BUT IF WE WENT WITH THE ONE ONE AND THAT GAVE US TIME TO DO THE RFP, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WAS UNDERSTANDING. THAT'S WHAT GAVE US TIME TO. OH I'M SORRY. YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT OUR PROCUREMENT. I HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY WOULD WOULD BID ON THAT. THERE'S I MEAN, FOR TRANSIT, LARGE TRANSIT AGENCIES, AND THERE'S PLENTY OF PRIVATE AGENCIES. WE COULD GET A GOOD AMOUNT. BUT AT WHAT PRICING? I'M NOT SURE. DO WE HAVE OTHER CITIES OF SIMILAR SIZE THAT ARE USING OTHER AGENCIES WHERE YOU KNOW THAT THE RATES ARE BEATING WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY SEEING? LIKE, HAVE WE KIND OF GOTTEN THAT SENSE FROM ANYONE ELSE YET? OUR OUR PROGRAM'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE SERVICE AREA THAT WE COVER. A LOT OF CITIES DON'T DO IT THE WAY THAT WE DO IT. IT'S BROKEN UP INTO SMALLER MICRO SECTIONS. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS PROGRAM UNIQUE IS THAT WE COVER, I MEAN, A HUGE SERVICE AREA, 856MI■!S. IT'S NOT REALLY MICRO TRANSIT. IT'S IT'S A LARGER PIECE. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO COMPARE. YEAH. SO WE WE'VE DONE AN RFP BEFORE, RIGHT? WE DID, I THINK BACK IN 2020, IT'S BEFORE I WAS HERE AND. YES, WE DID. BUT THERE ARE MORE AGENCIES NOW AVAILABLE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. RIGHT. I THINK THE SAME AMOUNT OF AGENCIES ARE AVAILABLE. AND I WASN'T HERE DURING THAT TIME.SO OUR INITIAL PROVIDER WAS DCTA. YES IT WAS. WHO THEN TOLD US THEY WERE NOT INTERESTED IN MAKING AN OFFER AND WE WENT WITH DART. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS NOW THEY'RE INTERESTED AGAIN.
AND THE QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT TO ALLOW TIME TO TO DO A FULL RFP THAT INCLUDES ALL THE AVAILABLE ONES, OR DO WE WANT TO KEEP GOING WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT? RIGHT. AND THERE'S FOUR TRANSIT AGENCIES, BUT WE I MEAN, WE COULD GO WITH A PRIVATE ENTITY, AS OTHER CITIES HAVE RECENTLY DONE, BUT IT IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO. I THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO HAVE A GOOD PROCESS IN PLACE IF IT IS FIVE YEARS OR SIX YEARS SINCE WE'VE DONE IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT THE TIME TO DO THAT IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS SO. WELL, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE WE'RE SAYING TODAY THAT WE COULD ONLY RENEW THIS CONTRACT WITH DART FOR A YEAR AND POSSIBLY AN OPTION YEAR, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TIME TO FOR THE CITY TO PUT OUT OUR OWN RFP. AND IT WOULD BE COMPETITIVE BETWEEN THE TRANSIT AGENCIES. SO THAT WOULD BE OUR OPTION, RIGHT? SORRY. SAY THAT AGAIN. THAT WOULD BE OUR OPTION TO KEEP THEM ON. YES, YES, I THINK I WOULD BE SUPER COMFORTABLE WITH THAT IF I UNDERSTOOD THE DIFFERENCES IN THE RATES. I'M KIND OF HELD UP ON WHAT ARE WHAT ARE WE WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SEE IN TERMS OF A RATE HIKE FOR A ONE YEAR VERSUS A THREE YEAR? I DON'T AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT'S INFORMATION THAT WE COULD GET OR. WELL, AND I, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE RATES FOR THE THREE YEAR YET MYSELF. SO, SO SORRY, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RATES, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE RATES THAT WE WOULD BE CHARGING OUR RIDERS? OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE RATES IN WHICH DART WOULD BE CHARGING US, BUT MOSTLY ALSO JUST TO ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM? SURE. AND SO FOR THE RATES FOR OUR RIDERS, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT CHANGING THE RATES FROM DART WOULD POTENTIALLY BE HIGHER.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS FOR THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THAT IS ALSO CONTINGENT UPON THE SUBCONSULTANTS AND HOW MUCH THEY WOULD BE CHARGING US, WHICH, AGAIN, IF WE MOVE TO A ONE YEAR CONTRACT, THE ABILITY FOR US TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEM WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT LESS SO.
YES. I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE THE INFORMATION TO MAKE A DECISION, THOUGH, WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO PUT OUR EYEBALLS ON THAT. YEAH, YEAH. AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT INFORMATION WE CAN GATHER AND THEN BRING BACK IN A DECENT AMOUNT OF TIME SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A DECISION. I THINK IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ONE YEAR SINCE DART IS CURRENTLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR PROCUREMENT PROCESS FOR THE SUBCONTRACTORS, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ISSUE AN ADDENDUM IN WHICH THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE HOW MANY OF THE SUBCONSULTANTS ARE WILLING TO BID AND HOW HOW MUCH, AND SO WE MAY BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO PRESENT BACK TO THE BOARD AT THAT TIME. BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT WE WOULD
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LIKE SOME DIRECTION ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE PURSUING. SO REALLY, SHOULD WE BE PURSUING THE ONE YEAR ADDENDUM WITH THE DART SUBCONTRACTORS? AND WOULD WE BE ABLE. SORRY. GO AHEAD. WOULD WE BE ABLE TO GET BOTH? LIKE, WHAT WOULD THE SUBCONSULTANTS COST? CHARGE FOR THREE AND FOR ONE, OR DO WE HAVE TO CHOOSE ONE? I BELIEVE WE CAN HAVE BOTH, BUT I'M GOING TO LOOK TO RYAN ON THAT. SINCE IT'S DART'S PROCUREMENT PROCESS. SO RYAN MCCUTCHEON, PROJECT MANAGER WITH DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT, I AM NOT ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT I CAN POSE THAT WITH OUR PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT FIRST THING TOMORROW MORNING AND SEE IF THAT IS A POSSIBILITY. AND THEN WE COULD ISSUE A MEMO OR FOLLOW UP WITH THE BOARD, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY CONTINGENT UPON TIME. OKAY.WELL, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I KNOW THAT IT'S YOU KNOW, TIME IS A FACTOR HERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW OF ANYBODY ON THE BOARD CAN CAN GRANT AN EXTENSION NOT KNOWING WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST.
I I'M THAT'S ME PERSONALLY. AND I WOULD VOTE THAT WE TABLE THIS AND COME BACK QUICKLY. BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE A IF WE DON'T HAVE A WE CAN'T SAY YES. AND THEN YOU COME BACK WITH A COST OF THIS AND THEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE APPROVE SOMETHING WE DON'T EVEN KNOW. I MEAN, JUST TO THE CITIZENS, I MEAN, YOU JUST THAT'S JUST A HARD THING TO DO. IS THERE ANY ESTIMATE ON HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE YOU TO FIND OUT A ONE YEAR VERSUS A THREE YEAR, IF YOU LIKE, HAD TO START TOMORROW, MAKE THE CALLS. SO WITH THE CURRENT PROCUREMENT PROCESS THAT DART IS GOING THROUGH, THE BIDS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE RECEIVED BY THIS FRIDAY. IF OH, SORRY, BY NEXT FRIDAY, IF WE PUT OUT AN ADDENDUM BEFORE NEXT FRIDAY, WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO START OVER ON THE PROCUREMENT OR DART WOULD NOT HAVE TO START OVER ON THEIR PROCUREMENT PROCESS. IF WE WAIT UNTIL AFTER THAT, CHANCES ARE WE WOULD DART WOULD NEED TO REISSUE THE RFP, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S ABOUT A THREE MONTH PROCESS, IN WHICH CASE WE MAY RUN UP TO AN ISSUE OF CONTINUITY OF SERVICE, BECAUSE OUR CONTRACT CURRENTLY ENDS DECEMBER 31ST. SO YOUR DEADLINE IS LIKE A WEEK OFF TO GET IN NOW? YES. SO THE ADDENDUM WOULD BE TO, TO, TO PRICE BOTH OPTIONS. WELL TO PRICE THE ONE YEAR OPTION. OKAY. SO YOUR THE CURRENT RFP IS PRICING THE THREE YEAR OPTION. CORRECT. AND THIS WOULD BE TO PRICE A ONE YEAR ONE YEAR. CORRECT. BUT IT COULDN'T BE THE PRICE. BOTH. I THINK RYAN WILL HAVE TO CONFIRM WITH HIS PROCUREMENT TEAM THAT IF THAT'S A VIABLE OPTION, CAN WE CAN WE MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE YOU DIRECTION TO GET HIM TO DO THAT, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE? YES. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT. OKAY. IT DOESN'T REQUIRE ACTION ON OUR PART IS WHAT EMPRESS IS OVER HERE. YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT SEEMS LIKE IT'S THE DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO. AND THEN ONCE YOU GET BACK, THE THE RFP RESPONSES, THEN YOU CAN MAKE A DECISION CAN BE MADE BASED ON THAT INFORMATION. YEAH, THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. YEAH.
DO YOU NEED A VOTE FROM US? YEP. WITH THAT DIRECTION. DO WE NEED A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM OR CAN WE JUST. YES TO TABLE THE ITEM? ALL RIGHT. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO A I GUESS INDEFINITELY. INDEFINITELY. OKAY. YES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THE ITEM INDEFINITELY. I HAVE A MOTION FROM DOCTOR FELTUS TO HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND AND A SECOND FROM MAYOR PRO TEM. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY NAYS? ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES. ABSTAIN. ABSTAIN ONE. ABSTAIN FROM PAT KELLY. MOTION PASSES.
[26-0630 Consider/Discuss/Act on Amending the McKinney Urban Transit District Bylaws]
NEXT ITEM 260630. CONSIDER. DISCUSS. ACT ON AMENDING THE MCKINNEY URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT BYLAWS. ALL RIGHT. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME I PREFACED THESE CHANGES. SO WITH THE WORK OF OUR ATTORNEY, WE HAVE CHANGED A FEW PIECES OF THIS. WE CREATED A SPOT FOR A WITHDRAWAL OR FOR A PARTICIPATING CITY TO WITHDRAW FROM THE MUTD, THEY MUST PROVIDE A 90 DAY NOTICE BEFORE THE END OF THE BUDGET YEAR IN ORDER TO DO THAT. ADDITIONALLY, ATTENDANCE OF DIRECTORS HAS BEEN MODIFIED. THEY MUST PROVIDE A 24 HOUR NOTICE IF THEY'RE UNABLE TO ATTEND AND IF THEY MISS TWO OR MORE CONSECUTIVE MEETINGS.[00:25:01]
CONSIDERATION OF RECOMMITMENT, RESIGNATION OR REPLACEMENT OF THE BOARD MEMBER. AND THEN ALONG THAT, THERE WERE SOME MINOR ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES. BUT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER, BUT I AM LOOKING FOR AN ACTION ON THIS. OKAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THESE CHANGES LISTED HERE. SECOND, THERE'S A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKLIN AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN. JEEZ, I'M LOSING MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT HERE. ERNEST LYNCH, THERE YOU GO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. OH. I'LL VOTE AYE. I'M SORRY. ALL RIGHT. NO ABSTAIN. MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. AND SO WITH THAT WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING MATTERS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA. ANY NOT SEEING ANY ANY OTHER BOARD OR MANAGER COMMENTS. IF NOT CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? TO ADJOURN. SECOND. SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BELLER AND A SECOND BY DOCTOR FELTUS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.AYE. ALL RIGHT. ANY OPPOSED? MEETING'S
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