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          YOU'RE GOOD. YES, SIR. GOOD, GOOD, GOOD. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. AT 6:01 P.M. WELCOME 
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TO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THIS IS TUESDAY, JULY THE 21ST, 2026. 
          THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE DO APPRECIATE YOU TAKING TIME OUT OF YOUR EVENING TO BE WITH US. 
          OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS WILL BE OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. SO IF YOU'RE ABLE, PLEASE STAND. FACE THE FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR AGENDA ITEMS. IF YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT AND WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON AN ITEM THAT IS ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT AND DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING COMPONENT, PLEASE COME. I'M SORRY. WE'LL 
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CALL YOUR NAME IN THAT ORDER IF WE HAVE ANYONE. NONE. OKAY. VERY GOOD. NEXT ITEM WILL BE OUR CONSENT AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR PULL DOWNS? MEMBERS? NOPE. DO HAVE ONE ITEM 26-0686. I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THAT DOWN AND NOT INCLUDE IN OUR VOTE ON OUR CONSENT CONSENT ITEM. SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE'LL APPROVE THE REMAINDER OF THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. HAVE A MOTION BY. I'LL SECOND COUNCILWOMAN FELTZ TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN LYNCH JONES. NO. JONES. COUNCILMAN JONES THAT CONSISTS OF ITEM 26-0679 THROUGH AND INCLUDING 26-0685. I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? SO WE OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOT IT. THERE WE GO. THAT MOTION 
          [26-0686 Consider/Discuss/Act on a Resolution Ratifying the City Manager's Approval of an Extension to an Agreement for State Legislative & Regulatory Consulting Services from Focused Advocacy, LLC of Austin, Texas]
CARRIES. THE CONSENT AGENDA HAS BEEN APPROVED. ITEM 26-0686. I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE THAT ITEM AND MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT. I'LL SECOND YOUR MOTION MR. MAYOR. IF YOU'RE MOVING SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CLOUTIER, ANY DISCUSSION, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. I DON'T HAVE I DON'T HAVE A BUTTON TO SECOND. I JUST HAVE A MOVE BUTTON. I'LL HIT THE MOVE BUTTON AND SOMEONE ELSE CAN HIT THE SECOND BUTTON THEN. OKAY, THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO. THAT MOTION CARRIES. THAT ITEM 
          [26-0687 Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request for the Waiver of Roadway Impact Fees in Accordance with the Neighborhood Empowerment Zone Impact Fee Waiver Program for a Proposed Multi-Family Development (Cotton Mill) Located on the Southeast Corner of State Highway 5 (McDonald Street) and Elm Street]
HAS BEEN TABLED. WE'LL MOVE TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA. THIS IS WHERE SOME OF THE ITEMS MAY HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING COMPONENT. FIRST ITEM 260687. CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR WAIVER OF ROADWAY IMPACT FEES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE IMPACT WAIVER PROGRAM FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT COTTON MILL. THIS IS AT HIGHWAY FIVE AND ELM STREET. OKAY, GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS CASSIE BUMGARNER AND THE PLANNING MANAGER FOR DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AND PRESERVATION. TONIGHT I AM PRESENTING THE APPLICATION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE PROGRAM FROM PRESIDIUM. SO BEAR WITH ME BEFORE I GO OVER THE SPECIFIC APPLICATION. I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE EASY IN EASY PROGRAM HOLISTICALLY. THE EASY PROGRAM BEGAN IN 2009. IT WAS TO SUPPORT INFILL IN THE TOWN CENTER AREA. AND EASY IS NOT A REGULATORY PROGRAM. PARTICIPATION IS NOT REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PROCESS. THE EASY ACTUALLY ALLOWS FOR PROJECTS THAT MEET ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES DEFINED IN SECTION 9885 TO RECEIVE IMPACT FEE REIMBURSEMENTS WITHIN THE NAS'S NEW MULTIFAMILY CONSTRUCTION IS ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE ROADWAY IMPACT FEE WAIVERS ONLY, PROVIDED THAT THE DESIGN AND COMPLETION OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION IS GENERALLY COMPATIBLE WITH MASSING, SIZE, SCALE, AND ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THE WAY THAT IT WORKS IS THAT PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION AND APPLICATION HAS TO BE MADE TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER, WHO THEN PRESENTS AN ELIGIBILITY DETERMINATION FOR THOSE FEE WAIVERS TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OR DENIAL BASED ON THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION, CITY COUNCIL IS THEN DETERMINES THE ELIGIBILITY FOR THOSE FEES, BASED IN PART ON THE GUIDELINES FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE NES, ALL THE IMPACT FEES ARE 
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COLLECTED AT THE TIME OF TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT ISSUANCE AND REMITTED TO THE OWNER UPON COMPLETION AND FINAL INSPECTION. NOW, AS I SAID, THE NES DOES HAVE THESE ADDITIONAL ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES FOR PROJECTS TO RECEIVE THE IMPACT FEE REIMBURSEMENTS. THE GUIDELINES LIST OUT SEVERAL SPECIFIC ASPECTS OF NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE NES, WHICH ARE MEANT TO BE VISUALLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE BUILDINGS AND ENVIRONMENT RELATED TO THE NEW CONSTRUCTION. THE GUIDELINES SPEAK TO HEIGHT, PROPORTION OF THE BUILDING'S FRONT FACADE, PROPORTIONS OF OPENINGS WITHIN THE FACADE, RELATIONSHIP OF MATERIALS, ROOF SHAPES, ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS, SCALE MASSING, DIRECTIONAL EXPRESSION OF THE FRONT ELEVATION, RHYTHM, SPACING, SETBACKS AND VARIATION OF STYLES. SO PRESIDIUM HAS APPLIED FOR THE NES PROGRAM AND THEIR MATERIALS WERE ATTACHED TO YOUR PACKET AS A SUMMARY OF THEIR PROJECT. THERE ARE FOUR MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS WHICH CONTAIN 1140 MULTIFAMILY UNITS. 
          THEY'VE INCLUDED A BREAKDOWN OF THE PROPOSED RATES OF THEIR PHASE ONE CONSTRUCTION, WITH ADDITIONAL PHASES BEING AT MARKET RATE. THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT TONIGHT, SO I'M GOING TO LET THEM SPEAK TO THEIR PROJECT IN MORE DETAIL. BUT THIS IS THE INFORMATION THAT THEY HAD INCLUDED IN THEIR APPLICATION ITSELF. SO THEN TO THE RIGHT YOU'LL SEE THE VICINITY MAP. HISTORICALLY THIS AREA WAS THE COTTON MILL AND MILL WORKER HOUSING. IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO SEE, BUT THE AREA WHERE THE FOUR MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS ARE GO WILL GO ARE STILL CURRENTLY PLATTED IN THAT ORIGINAL CONFIGURATION OF THE MILL HOUSING THE COTTON MILL SITE, ROUGHLY BOUNDED BY ELM STREET, BURRIS, ANDREW AND THE RAILROAD TRACKS IS ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES. IT WAS LISTED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER IN 1987, WITH SIGNIFICANCE UNDER HISTORIC EVENTS AND DESIGN AND ARCHITECTURE. THE DESIGNATION INCLUDED THE MAIN MILL BUILDING, WHICH EVERYONE KNOWS AS THE COTTON MILL, SEVERAL WAREHOUSE STRUCTURES BEHIND THAT, AND THEN OVER 50 RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES THAT WERE WORKER HOUSING. NOW, THIS PART I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT EACH ONE, BUT I DID INCLUDE IN THIS PRESENTATION ALL OF THE ELEVATIONS OF THE FOUR BUILDINGS. SO THERE'S TWO FOR EACH. AND THEN THIS SLIDE SHOWCASES THE VARIETY OF HOMES IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONTEXT IS MAJORITY SINGLE FAMILY, SINGLE STOREY DETACHED HOUSING. AND THEN I FEEL LIKE I WOULD BE REMISS NOT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE ARE SOME NON RES BUILDINGS IN THE AREA. THE CLOSEST ONE IS OBVIOUSLY THE HISTORIC COTTON MILL, WHICH IS ON THE BOTTOM. IT HAS THAT LOW AND LONG SHAPE. THERE'S ALSO NEWSOME HOMES, A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN THERE'S A PORTION OF ENCORE WIRE'S CAMPUS THAT'S VISIBLE ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS. AND THEN I'M INCLUDING THIS SLIDE, WHICH SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER FROM THE SITE PLAN REVIEW BACK IN 2023. THIS IS JUST TO GIVE CONTEXT TO THE APPLICATION. AND I JUST WANT TO REVIEW THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT KIND OF BRIEFLY. SO THE REGULATORY PROCESS FOR THIS PROJECT WAS IN 2020 OR BEGAN IN 2022. IT WAS TAKEN BEFORE CITY COUNCIL IN 2023 FOR DESIGN EXCEPTIONS. AND THIS SLIDE WAS PART OF THAT PRESENTATION THAT SHOWED THE JUXTAPOSITION BETWEEN THE PROPOSED SEVEN STORY BUILDING AGAINST THE ONE STORY RESIDENCE ALONG DUD PERKINS. ULTIMATELY, CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVE ALL OF THE DESIGN REQUESTS OR THE DESIGN EXCEPTION REQUEST TONIGHT. TONIGHT'S ITEM DOESN'T CHANGE WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON THAT SITE PLAN. THIS IS ONLY EVALUATING THE PROJECT FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROGRAM. AND THEN THIS INFORMATION WAS ALSO IN YOUR PACKET. BUT I DO NEED TO MAKE A CORRECTION. TO DATE, STAFF HAS BROUGHT FORWARD SEVEN OF THE NES PRODUCTS TO PROJECTS TO CITY COUNCIL FOR A DECISION, NOT NINE. HOWEVER, THE AMOUNT IS CORRECT ON BOTH OF THESE. THE HPO, AS I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, DOES PRESENT THIS RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL. WHEN A PROJECT EXCEEDS $50,000 IN ROADWAY IMPACT FEES. AND THEN I DO HAVE A LIST OF THE SEVEN PROJECTS TO DATE. IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. 
          AFTER A THOROUGH REVIEW OF THE PRESENTED APPLICATION, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THIS 
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APPLICATION. BASED ON THE GUIDELINES FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE NES, I WANT TO GO OVER THREE SPECIFIC AREAS WHERE STAFF DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT FITS THE FITS THE CRITERIA, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE, WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE IS ACTUALLY DIRECTLY TAKEN FROM THE NES GUIDELINES. ON HEIGHT. THE PROPOSED FACADES THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATION, SO THAT SHOW THE PHASE ONE BUILDING AT FIVE STORIES WITH BUILDINGS FOR PHASE TWO, THREE, AND FOUR AT SEVEN STORIES AS PRESENTED. THE PHASE ONE BUILDING WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 66FT TALL TO THE PARAPET, PARAPET. PHASE TWO, THREE AND FOUR BUILDINGS WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 90FT TALL IN THE NES GUIDELINES. THE HEIGHT OF NEW CONSTRUCTION SHOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE GENERAL HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMPLY WITH THE REGULATING ZONING DISTRICT. WHILE REVIEWING THE SURROUNDING AREA, WHICH I'VE INCLUDED IN THE PRESENTATION, THE EXISTING HISTORIC COTTON MILL BUILDING IS APPROXIMATELY 36FT TALL, AND THE SURROUNDING SINGLE FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS ARE PRIMARILY ALL ONE STORY BUILDINGS. THEY'RE ALL ROUGHLY ABOUT 18 TO 20FT TALL. THE HISTORIC COTTON MILL IS CONSIDERED ONE OF THE GATEWAYS TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA. HISTORICALLY, THE MILL BUILDING, THE SMOKESTACK AND THE WATER TOWER HAVE BEEN THE PROMINENT VERTICAL ELEMENTS TO THIS PART OF TOWN. THESE ELEMENTS ARE VESTIGES OF THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THE TEXTILE MILL TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE ECONOMY OF MCKINNEY AS PRESENTED. THESE NEW MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS WILL NEARLY DOUBLE THE HEIGHTS OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS AND CREATE A DRAMATICALLY ALTERED SKYLINE. THEN, ON MASSING, NEW CONSTRUCTION SHOULD CONSIDER AND REFLECT THE MASSING MASSING PROPORTIONS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD STRUCTURES. MASSING IS REFERRING TO THAT FULL SHAPE AND FORM OF THE BUILDINGS AS PRESENTED. THE FOUR BUILDINGS ARE LARGELY FULL RECTANGULAR BOXES, WITH THAT KIND OF MINIMAL RELIEF ON SOME OF THE CORNERS WHEN EVALUATING COMPATIBILITY WITH THE GUIDELINES. THESE BUILDINGS DO NOT REFLECT THE MAJORITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONTEXT, WHICH AGAIN, INCLUDES THOSE MOSTLY SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES. THE MASSING OF THE HISTORIC COTTON MILL IS THAT LOW AND LONG. 
          WHILE THE PRESENTED MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS ARE MUCH TALLER, COMPACT, BOXIER. THIS WOULD BE A MISMATCH WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. AND AGAIN, THE MASSING STUDY FROM THE SITE PLAN IN 2023 ALSO GIVES THAT VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF THAT MISMATCH. AND THEN FINALLY, THE LAST THING THAT STAFF WAS LOOKING AT WAS RECOMMENDING DENIAL BASED ON SCALE TO MEET THE GUIDELINES FOR THE NEW CONSTRUCTION, THE SCALE OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT SHOULD OBSERVE THE SCALE OF THE SURROUNDING AND NEARBY STRUCTURES AS PRESENTED. THIS WOULD BE OUT OF PROPORTION WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. THE BUILDINGS ARE TALL, WIDE AND TAKE UP THE MAJORITY OF THE OPEN SPACE. ON ALL OF THESE PARCELS, THE MAJORITY OF THE SPACE BOUND BY ANDERSON, PUCKETT, BURRIS AND FOWLER STREETS WILL ALL BE BUILDING, WHICH DOESN'T CURRENTLY, WHICH DOES NOT REFLECT THE SCALE OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS TO THEIR OPEN SPACE. WITH THAT, STAFF WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. AND THEN I KNOW THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THEIR PRODUCT PROJECT. KASEY, WHAT WAS THE HEIGHT REGULATION FOR THIS AREA BEFORE THE THE EXCEPTION WAS GRANTED, IT WAS SPLIT. SOME OF IT WAS 3 TO 4 STORIES AND SOME WAS UP TO FIVE. 
          OKAY. SO THE THE DIFFERENCE THAT WE WENT TO WAS ADDING TWO STORIES IN TERMS OF FOR MOST OF IT, I WAS BELIEVE ADDING FOR MOST OF FOUR SAY THAT AGAIN, I THINK IT WAS FOUR. I THINK A LOT OF IT WAS 3 TO 4 STORIES. SO OKAY, SO THE 3 TO 4 STORIES WERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WHICH HAVE THE TWO SEVEN STORY BUILDINGS, AND THE FIVE STORY WAS ON THE NORTH SIDE, WHICH HAS A FIVE STORY AND A SEVEN STORY, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, I BELIEVE. SO I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK THE SITE PLAN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? OTHER QUESTIONS? CASSIDY. 
          THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. YOU SAID THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO AND HAS THE PRESENTATION AS WELL. THEY DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION, BUT THEY DID WANT TO SPEAK. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. I EXCUSE ME, I'M JOSH EAMES, THE PRESIDENT OF DEVELOPMENT WITH PRESIDIUM. AND HERE I JUST WANT TO THANK STAFF AND COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERING OUR APPLICATION AND GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO IT THIS EVENING. WE HAVE PRESENTED OUR PLAN AND OUR VISION TO MANY OF 
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YOU MANY TIMES OVER THE LAST SEVERAL, SEVERAL YEARS. SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT, YOU KNOW, MANY OF THE FOLKS IN THIS ROOM HAVE SEEN WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND SEE OUR VISION AND KIND OF JUST WANT TO USE THIS TIME TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A STRAIGHTFORWARD AND CONDENSED MESSAGE. WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THE RESPONSIBILITY, RESPONSIBILITY THAT STAFF HAS IN THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND IN THEIR DETERMINATION OF WHETHER THIS PROGRAM IS BEING USED AS INTENDED. BUT AS THEY MENTIONED, THE RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL IS PRIMARILY BASED ON THE DESIGN OF THE DISTRICT ITSELF. WELL, COUNCIL HAS ALREADY SIGNED OFF AND APPROVED THE DESIGN OF THE DISTRICT ITSELF, WITH ITS SITE PLAN APPROVAL BACK IN 2000 OR 2023. YOU KNOW, NOTHING HAS CHANGED WITH OUR DESIGN WITH THE INTENTION SINCE THAT POINT. SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE FEEL THAT WE COMPLY WITH WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS INTENDED TO BE. AND WE FEEL LIKE THE DESIGN THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO TO CREATE A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD AND BRING LIFE BACK TO THIS SIDE OF MCKINNEY. WE KNOW THAT IS A KEY AND BIG FACTOR IN THIS DECISION, BUT WE DO THINK THERE IS MORE TO CONSIDER WITH THE MERITS OF OUR ASK THAN JUST THE DESIGN ITSELF. TO ME, THIS IS IS THIS A TOOL THAT THE COUNCIL CAN USE TO HELP BRING THIS AREA BACK TO LIFE, TO RECONNECT THE COMMUNITY IN EAST MCKINNEY AND REALLY UPGRADE A DISJOINTED AND AGING INFRASTRUCTURE SYSTEM THERE. YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD LEAD TO MORE THAN $575 MILLION OF PRIVATE INVESTMENT. IT COULD CREATE UPWARDS OF 2800 JOBS, 192 MILLION IN CITY AND ISD TAX REVENUE. AND OVERALL, AN ESTIMATED $826 MILLION IN ECONOMIC IMPACT. OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS. WE FEEL THAT THIS TOOL IS EXACTLY WHAT IT SHOULD BE USED FOR, AND WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT THE CITY WANTS TO SEE OUR PROJECT IN THIS REDEVELOPMENT MOVE FORWARD. COUNCIL STAFF, THE MCDC, THE EDC, THE BOARD, THE MCKINNEY HOUSING AUTHORITY AND MANY OTHER CITY STAKEHOLDERS HAVE INDICATED AS SUCH, BOTH DIRECTLY AND VIA APPROVAL AND OF SOME OF OUR OTHER REQUESTS IN THE LAST RECENT YEARS. JUST FOR CONTEXT, A TYPICAL OR AN AVERAGE MULTIFAMILY PROJECT WE DO IS ABOUT $1 MILLION IN INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS. IF YOU CONSIDER THE FOUR MULTIFAMILY PHASES THAT ARE IN THIS APPLICATION. AND WE ALSO HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT WE'RE INTENDING TO BUILD THAT WERE INCLUDED IN OUR SITE PLAN THAT STATES $1 MILLION PER. 
          THAT'S $6 MILLION. THE COST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE HERE IS EASILY GOING TO SURPASS $20 MILLION AND PROBABLY GET CLOSER TO 25, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, IF A TYPICAL PROJECT IS $1 MILLION, WE HAVE SIX TYPICAL PROJECTS, $6 MILLION. THE COST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE HERE IS FOUR TIMES THAT AMOUNT. THAT'S THAT'S A TREMENDOUS BURDEN. AND ULTIMATELY, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF ITS PRESIDIUM OR SOME OTHER DEVELOPER, YOU KNOW, THE COSTS ARE JUST TOO BURDENSOME FOR THIS TO BE FULLY FUNDED PRIVATELY. AND THE RETURNS THAT THE CAPITAL MARKET NEEDS TO JUSTIFY THIS INVESTMENT JUST AREN'T THERE. SO WITHOUT THE INVESTMENT, THE COLLECTIVELY THE INFRASTRUCTURE DOESN'T HAPPEN. THE GROUND UP PROJECTS THAT WE ALL WANT TO SEE COME TO FRUITION DON'T HAPPEN. AND THE DISTRICT REMAINS UNDEVELOPED AND VACANT, AND THE TAX BASE REMAINS STAGNANT AND JUST DOESN'T GROW. NOW, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH NEARLY EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY AND ALL THE AGENCIES, AND TRYING TO BRING THIS TO FRUITION. AND WE ARE GETTING CLOSER. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY MOMENTUM. WE WANT TO KEEP THAT GOING, AND WE ARE INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL FOR FOR ALL THE SUPPORT WE'VE GOTTEN SO FAR. BUT INEVITABLY, EACH GROUP THAT WE DO WORK WITH HAS ASKED US IF 
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WE HAVE REQUESTED HELP FROM ALL OTHER POSSIBLE RESOURCES. AND THIS REQUEST. TODAY, OUR APPLICATION SEEMS LIKE THE NEXT LOGICAL STEP IN THIS PROCESS. SO WITH THAT SAID, WE'RE WILLING TO REASONABLY BURDEN EACH PHASE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, MAKE IT PAY ITS FAIR SHARE OF THESE COSTS. WE WANT THIS TO BE A PARTNERSHIP, YOU KNOW, AND WE DON'T THINK IT'S REASONABLE FOR US TO ASK FOR ASSISTANCE WITHOUT PUTTING SKIN IN THE GAME. SO BETWEEN THE, YOU KNOW, A MILLION IN HARD COSTS FOR EACH PHASE, ANOTHER MILLION FOR EACH OF THE OFFICE BUILDINGS, A MILLION THAT PRESIDIUM HAS ALREADY PAID TO DATE AND DESIGN COSTS. THAT'S $7 MILLION IN PRIVATE FUNDING, FUNDING, AT MINIMUM, THAT ARE GOING TO GO INTO THIS PROJECT. I PROMISE YOU, IF THAT WE COULD IF WE COULD CONTRIBUTE MORE, WE WOULD. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO ALSO MAKE THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS PENCIL. AND TODAY WE'RE BOUND BY THE MARKET AND THE MARKET DICTATES HOW MUCH WE CAN CANNOT AFFORD. SO BETWEEN THE PRIVATE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK THROUGH WITH THE VARIOUS CITY DEPARTMENTS TO DATE, WE STILL HAVE A GAP. WE STILL HAVE A GAP, AND WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD TOOL TO USE TO HELP US CLOSE SOME OF THAT GAP. OUR OUR ASK IS SIMPLE HERE, LET US KEEP THIS MONEY IN THE DISTRICT. WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF REDUCING OUR PROJECT BUDGETS OR CHANGING OUR UNDERWRITING TO TAKE OUT THE VALUE OF THE IMPACT FEES. THEY WILL REMAIN IN THE PROJECT BUDGETS AS IS, AND IT IS OUR INTENT AND WE ARE WILLING TO COMMIT TO KEEPING THESE FUNDS IN THE DISTRICT AND SIMPLY REDIRECTING THEM TO GO TOWARDS PAYING FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S NEEDED TO REDEVELOPMENT TO REDEVELOP THIS AREA. NOW, RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT EXPLICITLY STATED IN THE LOI WE SUBMITTED IN OUR APPLICATION, BUT WE WOULD HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO ISSUE WITH AMENDING THAT TO INCLUDE IT. AND IF APPROVED, AT MINIMUM BASED ON THE ESTIMATED IMPACT FEE AMOUNTS, THAT COULD BE UPWARDS OF $10 MILLION GOING TO THE PRIVATE INVESTMENT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS DISTRICT. NOW, SIMPLY WITHOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THESE PROJECTS, THIS REDEVELOPMENT DOESN'T HAPPEN. WITHOUT THESE PROJECTS, THERE ARE NO IMPACT FEES. SO UNTIL WE CAN EXECUTE THE VISION, THEY HONESTLY DON'T EXIST. SO I KNOW THAT CREATES A LITTLE BIT OF A CHICKEN AND EGG SCENARIO AND THE PROJECTS TO GET THE IMPACT FEES, BUT MAY NEED SOME ASSISTANCE WITH THE IMPACT FEES TO GET THE PROJECTS GOING. BUT IN OUR OPINION, YOU KNOW, USING THIS AS A WAY TO HELP BRING THE DISTRICT TO LIFE, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE OTHER POTENTIAL FINANCIAL IMPACTS TO THE CITY. YOU KNOW, WE THINK THAT THAT THE POTENTIAL THAT THIS FAR OUTWEIGHS THE POTENTIAL VALUE OF WHAT THOSE IMPACT FEES MAY OR MAY NOT BE. SO I KNOW, I KNOW THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH US ON THIS PROJECT FOR A LONG TIME. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE SAID IT IN A COUNCIL MEETING, BUT, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL STAFF, THE ENTIRE CITY HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS PARTNER, ONE OF THE BEST JURISDICTIONS I'VE EVER WORKED IN OR WORKED WITH. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP AND WE HOPE IT CAN CONTINUE. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE DON'T SEE THIS AS AN ASK FOR CITY FUNDING. WE VIEW THIS AS AN ASK TO LET US PUT MORE OF THE PRIVATE CAPITAL THAT WE ARE INTENDING TO BRING IN DIRECTLY INTO THE DISTRICT ITSELF, AND THAT WILL GIVE IT A MUCH BETTER CHANCE OF COMING TO FRUITION. 
          THANK YOU. AND I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR. EAMES. ARE THERE QUESTIONS, JOSH, IN THE KIND OF HOW YOU'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH THIS, THE ROADS THAT EXIST WITHIN THE DISTRICT HERE, THE ANDERSON AND FOWLER AND CLARK. I MEAN, YOU'RE TOUCHING ALL OF THOSE THINGS WITH. YOU'VE GOT TO PULL THOSE ALL OUT AND REDO THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN IT AND BUILD THOSE BACK. AND IS THAT CORRECT? AND HOW Y'ALL ARE THAT THAT IS CORRECT. WE EFFECTIVELY HAVE TO TAKE EVERYTHING OUT AND PUT IT BACK. UPGRADE THE WATER LINES, UPGRADE THE SEWER LINES, UPGRADE THE STORM LINES. THERE'S NEW ROADWAY SECTIONS WE'RE PUTTING IN. I MEAN, THE RIGHT OF WAY EXISTS THERE TODAY. THE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT EXISTS, IT'S JUST IT'S NOT FUNCTIONAL, EVEN FOR PROBABLY SOME. I CAN'T SAY THIS WITH CERTAINTY, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE IF YOU CAME BACK WITH A NUMBER OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WE'D STILL HAVE TO MAKE SOME UPGRADES. THE I MEAN, IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT IN THE PAST, A LOT OF PROJECTS ARE 
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JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THEY HAVE INGRESS EGRESS RIGHT ON A PUBLIC ROADWAY. BUT THIS ONE HAS, YOU KNOW, A FAIR AMOUNT OF IMPACT WITHIN THE AREA THAT YOU'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH. AND SO IN TERMS OF ASKING FOR A WAIVER FOR ROADWAY IMPACT FEE TO SPEND ON THE ROADS, THAT YOU'VE GOT TO IMPROVE AS PART OF THIS. YOU KNOW, IT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THE TRADE OFF IS HERE, RIGHT? YEAH. SO WE EFFECTIVELY ARE PUTTING IN A NEW CONNECTION TO HIGHWAY FIVE OFF GRACE. AND WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE CONNECTING THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROJECT DOWN THROUGH VIA FOWLER DOWN TO INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD. NOW WITH ONE MULTIFAMILY PROJECT, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS DOESN'T REQUIRE US TO DO ANY OF THAT. 
          BUT WITH ONE MULTIFAMILY PROJECT AND AN OFFICE OR WHATEVER, THE NEXT THING THAT COMES ONLINE WILL TRIGGER THE NEED FOR THE ADDITIONAL ROADWAY WORK. AND SO HERE, LIKE I MENTIONED, WE, WE WANT TO KEEP THE MONEY HERE TO PAY FOR THAT OR HELP PAY FOR THAT. AND THAT MONEY IS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AN A PER UNIT BASIS, WHATEVER THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES THAT'S IN OUR UNDERWRITING ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE PHASES AND THE OFFICE AND WE'RE JUST ASKING, HEY, CAN WE USE THAT TO PAY FOR THIS INFRASTRUCTURE AS OPPOSED TO GOING INTO THE CITY COFFERS? AND WE WANT TO WE WANT TO REALLY BRING THIS DISTRICT TO LIFE. AND WE THINK THIS IS A TOOL THAT WE CAN USE TO DO SO. OKAY. WITH TO HELP DO SO. THANK YOU. JUDGE ANYONE ELSE. OTHER QUESTIONS? CAN I ASK A QUESTION OR JUST CASSIE, CAN YOU COME UP AND TALK THROUGH SOMETHING WITH ME? SO WE THE CITY DID THE MCKINNEY TOWN CENTER SOMETIME IN 2005 ISH. AND THIS IS KIND OF MY COMMENTARY. AND YOU CAN NOD YOUR HEAD ALONG WITH ME, BUT WHERE WE RE-ENVISIONED HOW DO WE GET INVESTMENT INTO EAST MCKINNEY? HOW DO WE OVERCOME THE BARRIERS OF EAST MCKINNEY? AND THERE WAS ZONING OVERLAYS THAT WERE PROVIDED THAT WERE ADVANTAGEOUS. THEY ALLOWED FOR MORE DENSITY. THEY ALLOWED FOR MORE HEIGHT THAN WHAT WAS THERE. 
          AND THAT OBVIOUSLY INCLUDED THIS AREA. AND THEN THEY CAME BACK IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS AND THEY ADDED THE TOOLS TO WHICH THOSE WOULD KIND OF MAKE THAT HAPPEN. ONE OF WHICH IS THE TERS MEETING WE JUST HAD, WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO KIND OF POOL SOME MONEY AND HELP SPEND THAT ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND OTHER PROJECTS. AND THE OTHER WAS THE NIS, WHICH IS BASICALLY SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS THING IS GOING TO THESE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH ROADS THAT EXIST AND A ROAD NETWORK THAT EXISTS. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S CAPACITY ADDITIONS IN THIS, BUT THERE'S ALSO BARRIERS THEY HAVE TO, TO, TO OVERCOME. AND SO OUTSIDE OF THE ARCHITECTURAL EXEMPTION, THIS FITS WITH THE DESIGN OF THE MTC. THIS FITS WITH THE DESIGN OF THE NIS PROGRAM, EXCEPT FOR WE GRANTED THEM A HEIGHT EXEMPTION THREE YEARS AGO LIKE THIS. THIS PROJECT, IF IT WAS WITHIN THE FIVE STORIES AND FOUR STORIES THAT EXISTED IN THE ORIGINAL MTC, WOULD GET A STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. BECAUSE THIS FITS WITH THE MTC. 
          THIS FITS WITH THE NIS PROGRAM. WOULD YOU. WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO SEPARATE THINGS FOR THE NIS. SPECIFICALLY. IF IT DOESN'T MEET THE ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES, THEN NO, WE WOULDN'T RECOMMEND APPROVAL. BUT THE ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES AT THAT POINT WERE THE MTC, WHICH WAS A FIVE STORY LIMIT AND A FOUR STORY LIMIT. 
          SO SO IT WASN'T JUST THE HEIGHT FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES IN THE NECK. IT'S ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT I TALKED ABOUT BEFORE THAT TALKS ABOUT PROPORTION AND MASSING AND SCALE. SO HEIGHT IS ONE OF THOSE PIECES, BUT NOT EVERYTHING. WE SET THOSE RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, WE SET ALL OF THOSE IN THE MTC AND SAID, YOU'RE WELCOME TO THE NIS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO THIS, THIS FUNDING OR THIS, THIS EXEMPTION SOURCE TO OVERCOME YOUR BARRIERS. AND SO IF WE DIDN'T THINK THAT THAT WOULD ALIGN. SO THE NIS BOUNDARY IS ACTUALLY LARGER THAN THE MTC AS WELL. SO I THINK THE NIS BOUNDARY OR THE NIS GUIDELINES ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE MTC COMPLETELY. THEY AREN'T A ONE FOR ONE RATIO. SO IF THEY CAME IN WITH THE FOLLOWING ALL THE MTC, OR IF YOU KNOW A PROJECT RIGHT OVER HERE THAT'S NEW, THAT'S COMING, THAT FOLLOWS ALL THE MTC ZONING, WE'RE STILL GOING TO RECOMMEND THEM NOT USE THE NIS IF IT DOESN'T HAVE. IF IT HAS MASSING, THAT IS, WE DON'T LIKE. IF IT DOESN'T FOLLOW THE REST OF THE GUIDELINES, THEN YES, WE WOULD STILL RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THAT PROJECT. BUT I'M SAYING IF IT 
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DOES, IF IT IF IT MEETS EVERYTHING, WE WOULD SAY YES. AND IF THIS ONE. I MEAN, THE ONLY THING THAT THAT WE GRANTED THE EXEMPTION FOR WAS THE HEIGHT, WASN'T IT, AT THE SITE PLAN LEVEL, THERE WERE MORE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS THAN JUST HEIGHT, WHICH WHAT WERE THEY? GIVE ME ONE SECOND. LUCAS REILLY, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING. I'M JUST JUMPING IN WHILE CASSIE IS FINDING THE SITE PLAN. JUST TO AGAIN TALK TO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NIS AND THE MTC. SO THE MTC, TO YOUR POINT, HAS ALL THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THAT FORM BASED CODE. THE NIS MUCH LARGER BOUNDARY IS ALL ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE, WHICH IS. HEY, WE APPRECIATE INFILL DEVELOPMENT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND CONTEXTUALLY APPROPRIATE BUILDINGS IN AN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO WHILE THE MTC FORM BASED CODE IS MEANT TO BE CONTEXTUALLY APPROPRIATE, THERE ARE THINGS TO YOUR POINT THAT COULD MEET THE MTC THAT MAY STILL NOT BE AS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT CASSIE IS TRYING TO GET TO, IS THAT YES, EVEN IF IT WASN'T JUST HEIGHT, THE MASSING AND THE LACK OF OPEN SPACE IS NOT CONTEXTUALLY APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES ADJACENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT. AND SO IT COULD STILL BE THAT WE DON'T RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ANY Z, WHICH, AS THE APPLICANT STATED, IS REALLY JUST AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM. AND SO FROM THE STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, THE PROJECT HAS BEEN APPROVED. THERE'S NOTHING THAT PREVENTS THEM FROM BUILDING THE PROJECT. THE ANY Z IS AN INCENTIVE THAT SAYS, HEY, WE APPRECIATE THAT THE PROJECT YOU'RE BRINGING FORTH IS ALSO CONTEXTUALLY APPROPRIATE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE IT EVEN EASIER FOR YOU TO BRING SOMETHING THAT'S CONTEXTUALLY APPROPRIATE, BECAUSE THAT MAY HAVE A HIGHER PRICE TAG THAN A DESIGN OR A MASSING OR SCALE THAT'S LESS CONTEXTUALLY APPROPRIATE, RIGHT? IT MIGHT NOT HAVE THE SAME RETURN ON INVESTMENT. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR PROJECTS THAT MIGHT NOT BUILD TO THE SAME SCALE, SIZE OR ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. SO THAT WE DO GAIN THAT COMPATIBILITY WITH EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS. AND I GET THE DISTINGUISHMENT BETWEEN THE OVERLAP OF THE MTC AND THE NES. I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING, WHAT I WAS SAYING, IS THAT IT'S A TOOL AND BECAUSE OF THE THE MINIMUM STANDARD, YOU'RE MORE LIKELY GOING TO SEE PROJECTS WITHIN THE MTC. MEET THE NES ELIGIBILITY, THEN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME CAN'T COME. APPLY FOR THIS OR A SUBDIVISION OF OF SINGLE FAMILY LOT INTO TWO ISN'T GOING TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS. I BELIEVE THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR ANY Z. YES. SO ANY PROJECT. WELL, YOU HAVE A $50,000 MINIMUM ON THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEE. THEY'RE NOT PAYING $50,000 IN ROADWAY IMPACT FEES. 
          SO THAT'S ONLY THE ONES THAT GET BROUGHT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL. THERE ARE SMALLER PROJECTS. SO THE DIFFERENT TIERS OF ANY Z ALLOW FOR SMALLER INFILL. AND THEY CAN ACTUALLY GET WASTEWATER AND ROADWAY. AND ALL OF THOSE IMPACT FEES REIMBURSED. OKAY. SO THE, THE OTHER, THE OTHER EXCEPTIONS THAT WERE GRANTED OUTSIDE OF THE ONE COUNCIL GRANT IS WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR. WE GRANTED THE HEIGHT EXEMPTION. WHAT WERE THE OTHER ONES? YOU HAD GRANTED 18 DESIGN EXEMPTIONS. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS FOR WHERE THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE IS ABOUT. AND AGAIN, THIS WAS FOR THE ENTIRE SITE PLAN. SO BEAR WITH ME. 
          ACTIVE COMMERCIAL USES ON GROUND FLOOR FINISHING MATERIALS. TRANSPARENCY BUILD TWO ZONE DRIVEWAYS. AND THEN THERE ARE SEVERAL ABOUT HEIGHT RESIDENTIAL TRANSITION AREA SCREENING DEVICES. AND THEN ANOTHER ONE ABOUT HEIGHT. AND THOSE WERE ALL COUNCIL GRANTED DESIGN EXEMPTIONS. OKAY. SO I WILL JUST SAY I DO THINK THAT THIS WE, WE CREATED THIS MTC AND I'M NOT TALKING TO YOU, CASSIE. SO WE DID CREATE THE COUNCIL DID CREATE THIS MTC TO TRY TO BRING LIFE BACK IN. WE KNEW THERE WERE BARRIERS TO WHAT THAT WAS GOING TO ENTAIL. 
          WE'VE ALREADY GRANTED THESE EXCEPTIONS. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO RELITIGATE THEM IN TERMS OF OF DO THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO HEIGHT? BUT I DO THINK THAT THIS BARRIER IS GOING TO EXIST FOR WHATEVER. AND EVEN MORE SO IF THEY MEET THE DESIGN. IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE DESIGN EXEMPTIONS THAT WERE ALREADY GRANTED TO THEM. AND SO IN MY MIND, THIS, THIS FITS WITH WHAT 
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THE, THE DESIGN OF THE MTC, THE DESIGN OF THESE TOOLS WERE. AND IT IS ONE OF THE, THE FEW OPPORTUNITIES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AT GETTING THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IN EAST MCKINNEY. 
          AND WITHOUT THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE THE LACK OF COMMERCIAL RESOURCES. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE. THE INABILITY TO, TO, TO AS, AS JOSH WAS SAYING, CREATE LIFE BACK INTO SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES. I THINK THE COTTON MILL IS THE PROPERTY THAT WE SHOULD BE THE MOST PROUD OF IN MCKINNEY. AND I THINK FINDING USE AND, AND ACTIVITY IN THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BRING US ALL VALUE IN, IN, IN ADDITION TO WHAT DOWNTOWN HAS BROUGHT US, THIS ENTIRE ZONE WAS WAS LOOKED AT IN THE TOWN CENTER. THE TOOLS WERE CREATED IN THE IN THE TOURS, THE TOOLS WERE CREATED IN THE NES. AND TO ME, THIS, THIS FITS WITH KIND OF WHAT WE NEED TO BRING ABOUT IN MCKINNEY. SO I'M IN FAVOR OF IT. 
          I WILL MAKE MENTION BECAUSE IT WAS MENTIONED TO ME. BUT WE DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO OFFER SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN ZERO OR EVERYTHING ON THE REQUEST. IS THAT CORRECT? LUCAS. I'M IN FAVOR OF OF THE FULL WAIVER, BUT THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED THAT QUESTION BEFORE. I'VE BEEN TOLD TWICE BY CITY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. SO PERFECT. I'M I'M ANSWERING IT FOR YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING THE ANSWER FOR THAT QUESTION. I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO TO FARM THAT QUESTION OUT. BUT YEAH, I MEAN, I JUST I WAS SAYING THAT BECAUSE I AM IN FAVOR OF GRANTING ALL OF IT IN THIS SITUATION, BUT THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. MR. MAYOR, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THROWN OUT HERE, AND I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS IN HERE THAT WEREN'T PAYING ATTENTION A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN WE DID THIS. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT MY VOTE, WHY I VOTED THE WAY I AM AND WHY I'M GOING TO VOTE NO ON THIS TODAY. THIS IS A WONKY PIECE OF LAND HERE SOUTH OF THE COTTON MILL. THE COTTON MILL USED TO BE OUTSIDE THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, AND IT WAS TENEMENT HOUSING THERE. 
          THERE'S ONE TENEMENT HOUSE STILL THERE. DRIVE BY THERE AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT. YOU'RE GONNA THINK, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS? THAT'S A HOUSE WHERE THE. THAT WAS LIKE A COMPANY TOWN BACK THERE. THE ROADS ARE LAID OUT TERRIBLY FOR MODERN DEVELOPMENT. THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS TERRIBLE OUT THERE FOR MODERN DEVELOPMENT. ALL THAT IS TRUE. BUT THE QUESTION IS, IS HOW HEAVY OF A LIFT CAN THIS CITY DO? HOW HEAVY OF A LIFT LIFT SHOULD THIS CITY DO, AND HOW MUCH CAN THE CITY LIFT ALL AT ONE TIME? AND THAT'S WHERE I HAVE WHERE I HAVE A DIFFICULTY. 
          WHAT WHAT PRESIDIUM CAME TO US A FEW YEARS AGO WAS SAYING, LOOK, THESE THESE THINGS ARE NOT LAID OUT RIGHT. WE CAN'T DO WHAT NORMAL APARTMENTS DO. WHAT A NORMAL HOW DO NORMAL APARTMENTS PARK THEIR CARS? IT'S EITHER ON THE GROUND LAYING OUT A HUGE FLAT PARKING LOT WITH A LOT OF CONCRETE, OR BUILDING A VERY EXPENSIVE STRUCTURE, USUALLY WRAPPED BY THE APARTMENT STRUCTURE LIKE YOU SEE OUT AT CRAIG RANCH, RIGHT? EXPENSIVE, EXPENSIVE. 
          CAN'T DO THAT OUT HERE. WHY? BECAUSE THE LAYOUT OF THE ROADS IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO THAT. THE LOTS ARE TOO SMALL FOR THEM TO GET THEIR CRITICAL MASSING. IT IS WHAT IT IS. IT'S SAD, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. SO I DON'T BLAME YOU FOR COMING HERE AND ASKING US. I REALLY DON'T, BUT THE GOALPOSTS KEEP MOVING. AND THEN WE LOOKED AT THESE THINGS AS BEING PODIUM, PARKING, PARKING DOWN ON TWO STORIES, THEN FIVE STORIES UP. WOULD YOU DO THAT? AND I SAID, YES. AND THE REASON IS, IS THAT I, I GOT TO YES, WAS I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A GROCERY STORE DOWN HERE. I'D LOVE TO SEE MORE RESTAURANTS DOWN HERE. WE NEED ECONOMIC ACTIVITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          AND WHAT I WAS HOPING WAS THAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR WOULD BE ABLE TO GET US THERE IF I DID THE ZONING. EVIDENTLY WE'RE NOT THERE. PRIVATE SECTOR CAN'T DO IT. THEY'RE LOOKING TO US TO WAVE $3 MILLION OF ROADWAY IMPACT FEES. WHAT ARE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES? THAT'S THINGS DEVELOPERS PAY WHEN THEY COME HERE TO PAY FOR THE EXISTING ROADS WE HAVE, AND TO ACCOMMODATE THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC VOLUME THAT THEY ARE GOING TO PRESENT, WILL FOR APARTMENT BUILDINGS PRESENT MORE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS OVER HERE? YES. NOT A TRICK QUESTION. YEAH. 
          IT'S GOING TO PRESENT A LOT MORE TRAFFIC. SHOULD THAT BE ON THE TAXPAYER MCKINNEY TO PAY THAT OR SHOULD IT BE ON THE DEVELOPER. TO ME IT CAN'T BE ON THE TAXPAYER RIGHT NOW. I JUST CAN'T GET THERE. AND I WON THERE A FEW YEARS AGO. FURTHER, THE ONE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE THERE IS A LOW INCOME HOUSING, WHICH IS A 50% MARKET RATE, 50%, OR ROUGHLY 45%, 80% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME AND 5% OF 30 MEDIAN INCOME. 30. AND MEDIAN INCOME IS NOT A BAD THING, BUT IT'S EXPENSIVE FOR DEVELOPERS TO GIVE US. THAT'S WHY WE'RE ONLY GETTING 5% OF THOSE. IN MY OPINION, 80%. WE'VE GOT WAY TOO MUCH INVENTORY THAT I'VE SAID FROM THIS DAIS MANY TIMES. I THINK WE'RE HOUSING FRISCO'S AND ALAN'S TEACHERS AND BARTENDERS AND ALL THAT STUFF HERE. WHEN IT'S A WHEN IT'S A PROJECT LIKE THIS, THEY DON'T PAY CITY TAXES. THEY DON'T PAY ISD COUNTY OR COLLIN COLLEGE. OKAY. SO THEY'RE NOT PAYING US TAXES. WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS THEY'RE GOING TO COME AND GIVE US THREE MORE APARTMENT BUILDINGS. THEY'RE ALL GOING TO 
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BE MARKET RATE THAT WILL PAY TAXES. BUT THAT'S ONE BIG PILE OF MAYBE RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON THEIR APPETITE TO BUILD THEM. AND IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON THE MARKET'S APPETITE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT PROFITABLE. I DON'T LIKE THAT THIS IS REMAINING INACTIVE. I REALLY DON'T, BUT TO ME IT IS NOT ON THE TAXPAYER, THE CITY OF MCKINNEY TO WAIVE THESE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES. IT IS THIS CITY IS HARD. IT'S IT'S DIFFICULT AND CHALLENGING TO REDEVELOP SOME OF THESE THINGS LIKE WHERE WE'RE SITTING RIGHT NOW. THIS WAS REDEVELOPED. IT WAS A HEAVY LIFT TO REDEVELOP THIS POLLUTED PIECE OF LAND THAT WE'RE ALL SITTING ON RIGHT NOW AND REMOVE ALL THE TOPSOIL, GET RID OF IT, AND THEN BUILD THIS NICE CITY HALL. HAVE THE NICE THINGS OVER HERE. IT'S HARD. IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME. THIS ONE'S GOING TO TAKE LONGER IF I HAD MY WAY ABOUT IT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ANYONE ELSE? OTHER COMMENTS? ANYONE? MR. BELLER, I AGREE WITH YOU. THIS IS A CHALLENGING PART OF MCKINNEY. I ALSO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CLOUTIER. WE'VE GOT TO BE GOOD STEWARDS. I THINK WITH THE APPLICANT WILLING TO LEAVE THE MONEY IN THE ZONE, THE 2.9 OR WHATEVER THAT NUMBER ENDS UP BEING OVER TIME. THAT DOES PAY FOR THOSE ROADWAYS. AND I'M IN FAVOR OF OF YOUR REQUEST, BECAUSE I DO THINK YOU'RE COMMITTED TO MAKING THIS HAPPEN. AND WE SHOULD BE PARTNERS. ANYONE ELSE? MR. BELLER, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THIS. I HAVE A MOTION. I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKLIN. ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. 
          THIS MOTION CARRIES A BY A VOTE OF FOUR IN FAVOR AND THREE AGAINST. NEXT ITEM 
          [26-0688 Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Resolution of the City Council of the City of McKinney, Texas, Regarding the Application of Skyway Villas (TX) Owner LP, to the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs, for a 4% Housing Tax Credit for the Acquisition and Rehabilitation of an Existing Housing Development Known as “Skyway Villas Apartments”]
TONIGHT, 26-0688. A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY REGARDING THE APPLICATION OF SKYWAY VILLAS TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS FOR HOUSING TAX CREDIT FOR ACQUISITION AND REHABILITATION OF AN EXISTING HOUSING DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS SKYWAY VILLAS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL CRYSTAL TODD, AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS A REQUEST OF NO OBJECTION TO A. FOR SKYWAY VILLAS TO APPLY FOR A 4% TAX CREDIT THROUGH TD. A SKYWAY VILLAS IS A CURRENT DEVELOPMENT THAT IS LOCATED AT 2000 SKYWAY DRIVE. IT HAS 232 UNITS. WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, IT IS ACTUALLY 100% AFFORDABLE. 60% OF THOSE UNITS. SO 220 OF THEM ARE AT 60% AMI. SO 95% OF THE UNITS ARE AT 60%, AND THEN 5% OF OUR UNITS ARE AT 30%. SO IT'S 100%, 60% AND BELOW RIGHT. THIS APPLICATION WILL ALLOW THEM TO APPLY FOR 4% TAX CREDITS THROUGH TDHCA. SO IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THEY HAVE TO DO FOR THE FINANCING MECHANISM OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. THEY HAVE TO HAVE A RESOLUTION OF NO OBJECTION. THIS ITEM DID ALSO COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL IN APRIL. IN APRIL, THE 21ST CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FOR THIS SAME DEVELOPMENT. WHEN WE BROUGHT IT TO YOU, BASED OFF WHAT THE SCORECARD SAID FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE MCKINNEY HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION WILL BE A PARTNER ON THIS DEVELOPMENT, SO THEY WILL BE TAX EXEMPT. THEY WILL RECEIVE TAX EXEMPTIONS WITH THAT TAX EXEMPTION. MCKINNEY HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION WILL ALSO RECEIVE FUNDS BACK FROM THIS PROJECT BECAUSE WE ARE A CO-DEVELOPER IN WITH THIS DEAL. 
          SO THEY WILL RECEIVE OVER $3 MILLION BACK IN TAX EXEMPTIONS AND AN ONGOING FEE ANNUALLY FOR ISSUING THE BONDS AND ALSO FOR BEING A PARTNER WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. THIS DEVELOPMENT, AGAIN, I MENTIONED IT IS AT 2000 SKYWAY. SO THIS IS ON 380 ACROSS FROM RAYTHEON. THAT'S WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT IS. LET'S SEE, THEY WILL BE SINCE THIS IS A CURRENT DEVELOPMENT, THERE WILL BE IT'S GOING TO BE AN ACQUISITION REHAB, AND THEY WILL BE PUTTING IN $22 MILLION TOWARDS THE RENOVATION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 2003. IT IS A CURRENT LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX DEVELOPMENT. AS OF NOW, ALL THE UNITS ARE CURRENTLY AFFORDABLE. 
          WE'RE JUST GOING TO GET DEEPER AFFORDABILITY, ADDING THOSE 30%, AND IT WILL ALSO KEEP THIS HOUSING AFFORDABLE FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WHAT IS THE 
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MAKEUP RIGHT NOW? IS IT ALL 60% RIGHT NOW? YES. AM I OKAY? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE? CRYSTAL. THANK YOU. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU'VE COME TONIGHT AND WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. ALL RIGHT, MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKLIN TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN FELTZ. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. AT. THIS MOTION PASSES BY A VOTE OF SEVEN IN FAVOR AND ZERO AGAINST. NEXT ITEM IS 260689. A PUBLIC 
          [26-0689 Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Amend the Project Plan for the Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Number One, and Accompanying Ordinance]
HEARING TO CONSIDER A REQUEST TO AMEND THE PROJECT PLAN FOR THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE. NUMBER ONE, MR. RILEY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL. LUCAS REILLY, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING HERE TO PRESENT AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE PROJECT PLAN. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD JUST HEARD EARLIER THIS EVENING. THE CHANGE BEING MADE IS TO ADD THE AREA SHOWN IN ORANGE TO THE TRS BOUNDARY AND SEE IF THIS IS ON. THIS ORDINANCE WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 16TH, JUST LAST MONTH. AND SO THE ORDINANCE IS TO UPDATE THE PROJECT PLAN TO REFLECT THAT CHANGE IN THE ADDITIONAL LAND AREA ADDED TO THAT BOUNDARY. 
          I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR. REILLY. ANY QUESTIONS? LUCAS? THANK YOU. 
          THIS IS AN ITEM THAT HAS A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED. IF YOU COME TONIGHT AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING TRS ONE AMENDMENT, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BUTLER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM. 
          AS FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN JONES. ALL RIGHT. YEAH, I DIDN'T PRESS THE BUTTON, BUT YES, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN JONES. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NONE. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. AND THAT MOTION CARRIES BY A VOTE OF SIX IN FAVOR AND ONE AGAINST. THE NEXT 
          [26-0690 Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Amend the Finance Plan for the Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Number One, and Accompanying Ordinance]
ITEM IS 26-0690. PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN AMENDMENT TO THE FINANCE PLAN FOR TOURS NUMBER ONE AND THE ACCOMPANYING ORDINANCE, MR. RILEY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THIS IS A RINSE AND REPEAT OF THE LAST ITEM. THE INITIAL ITEM WAS FOR THE PROJECT PLAN. THIS IS FOR THE FINANCE PLAN FOR TOURS ONE. AGAIN, JUST MAKING THE CHANGE TO REFLECT THE UPDATED TOURS BOUNDARY STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS, LUCAS. THANK YOU. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THIS AMENDMENT TO THE TOURS ONE ZONE. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. I'LL SECOND. MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN FELTUS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM. AS FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WE HAVE A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKLIN. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. ITEM HAS BEEN APPROVED BY 
          [26-0006SUP2 Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit Request for Auto, Motorcycle, Truck, or Boat, Rental or Sales (Enterprise), Located Approximately 650 feet South of Justice Road and on the East Side of James Pitts Drive, and Accompanying Ordinance]
A VOTE OF SIX IN FAVOR AND ONE AGAINST. THE NEXT ITEM IS 26-0006SUP2. A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AUTO, AUTO, MOTORCYCLE TRUCK BOAT RENTAL SALES ENTERPRISE. THIS IS LOCATED AT 650FT SOUTH OF JUSTICE ROAD ON THE EAST SIDE OF JAMES PITTS DRIVE. MR. RILEY. ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS AN SUP REQUEST FOR AN ENTERPRISE RENTAL CAR. IN THIS ZONE. THE UDC REQUIRES THAT AN SUP BE APPROVED TO ALLOW FOR AUTO, MOTORCYCLE, TRUCK OR BOAT RENTALS OR SALES. THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS ROUGHLY. SORRY, 
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I'M TRYING TO GET TO THE SPOT ON THE MAP HERE. IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF JAMES PITTS DRIVE. 
          YOU CAN SEE THERE ON THE AERIAL, THE EXISTING SITE AND ATTACHED HERE IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN FOR THE SITE. THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES AN 1800 SQUARE FOOT RENTAL OFFICE AND A 1200 SQUARE FOOT ENCLOSED BUILDING, WHICH WILL SERVICE THOSE RENTAL VEHICLES. I THINK THE CAR WASH AND DETAILING TO ACCOMMODATE THAT USE. STAFF FINDS THAT THIS USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL AREA AND SHOULD NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT ANY ADJACENT PROPERTIES. SITE ACCESS IS LOCATED ON JAMES PITTS DRIVE, AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN THEIR INTERNAL DRIVE LOOP THERE THAT THEY WOULD USE TO HAVE THEIR FACILITIES WITH THE RENTAL CARS. 
          THE PROPOSED SITE LAYOUT COMPLIES WITH ALL OF OUR OTHER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUPPORTS THIS USE IN THIS LOCATION. PLANNING AND ZONING RECOMMENDED APPROVAL UNANIMOUSLY, AND STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS SUP. I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. LUCAS, THE SUP IS KIND OF FUNNY WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT MOTORCYCLE AND BOAT RENTAL AND STUFF LIKE THAT. OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS IS JUST THE LATEST ITERATION OF ENTERPRISE RENTAL CAR HERE IN MCKINNEY, WHERE YOU GO AND PICK UP A RENTAL CAR. THEY DO SOME DETAILING BETWEEN RENTERS AND THEY GIVE IT BACK TO YOU. THERE'S NO MOTORCYCLES, THERE'S NO RENT, THERE'S NO BOATS. THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THAT. RIGHT? THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. 
          YES. THAT'S JUST GENERALLY THE SUP LANGUAGE. I GET IT, ANY OF THOSE USES REQUIRES AN SUP THOSE AUTO CENTRIC USES. OKAY. THANK YOU. IT'S JUST COUNCILWOMAN CLAUDIA. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. THE CURRENT SITE IS NEAR WHITE AND 75. I THINK THIS REPLACES THAT LOCATION. YOU KNOW, IT USED TO BE. ACTUALLY, I'M A VICTIM OF THAT. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE FLOOR TO SAY THAT WE RENTED A CAR AT WHITE AND 75. WHEN I WENT TO RETURN IT, THEY SAID, WE HAVE MOVED TO POWERHOUSE DRIVE, WHICH IS DEEP IN THE HEART OF DISTRICT ONE. A LOT OF TRAFFIC TO GET THERE, NOT A PLEASANT DRIVE FOR ME. AND SO ENTERPRISE IS POPULAR. SO THIS IS MOVING OFF POWERHOUSE DRIVE, WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD THING FOR THE FOLKS OF MCKINNEY INTO A NEW DESIGN THING FOR THEM. THE THAT OLD ONE ON WHITE WAS AN OLD BANK OF AMERICA, AS YOU MAY RECALL, AND. 
          BUT THEY WERE TAKING UP TOO MANY PARKING SPACES. SO YOU'VE KIND OF REHASHED A WOUND THAT I CLOSED. AND. BUT I'M OKAY WITH YOU. YOU COULD SAY JUST RIP THE BAND-AID, RIGHT? I DID, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? NO. LUCAS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING COMPONENT. IF YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL REGARDING THIS PROPOSED SUP FOR ENTERPRISE AUTO RENTAL, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. SEEING NO ONE IS SIGNED UP OR RUSHING TO THE PODIUM WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKLIN TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEMS FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN LYNCH. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THIS MOTION CARRIES BY A VOTE OF SEVEN IN FAVOR AND ZERO AGAINST ITEM HAS BEEN APPROVED. THE NEXT ITEM IS 26-0008, A TWO AND 26-0023Z. A. 
          [26-0008A/26-0023Z Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Petition to Annex (Case No. 26-0008A) and a Request to Zone (Case No. 26-0023Z) the Subject Property to “PD” - Planned Development, Generally to allow for Residential Uses and Modify Development Standards, Located on the West Side of County Road 161 and Approximately 1,350 feet North of County Road 124, and Accompanying Ordinance(s) (REQUEST TO BE TABLED)]
PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ANNEXATION CASE AND ALSO A ZONING CASE ON A PROPERTY TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS TO ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL USES AND TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. THIS IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF COUNTY ROAD 161, 1300FT NORTH OF COUNTY ROAD. 124. MR. REILLY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCIL. LUCAS REILLY, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING. DUE TO A LACK OF A FINALIZED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS, STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT THIS ITEM BE TABLED INDEFINITELY AND THE PUBLIC HEARING BE CLOSED. WE WILL RE NOTICE THIS ITEM FOR A FUTURE COUNCIL DATE ONCE WE HAVE ALL THE APPROPRIATE DOCUMENTS READY FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. OKAY, I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. VERY GOOD. OTHER QUESTIONS. SO JUST FOR THE AUDIENCE, WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO TABLE BASED ON STAFF RECOMMENDATION. 
          BUT IF YOU'VE MADE THE EFFORT TO BE HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS PROPOSED ANNEXATION AND REZONE, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION IN VIEW OF NOBODY WANTED TO COME AND SPEAK TO IT. NOW I WILL MOVE THAT WE INDEFINITELY TABLE THIS ITEM, HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CLAUDIA TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE THE ITEM INDEFINITELY. SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN FELTUS. IS 
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THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THAT MOTION CARRIES THE NEXT ITEM 26-0009A 
          [26-0009A/26-0058Z Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Petition to Annex (Case No. 26-0009A) and a Request to Zone (Case No. 26-0058Z) the Subject Property to “R12” - Residential District, Located at 4905 County Road 317, and Accompanying Ordinance(s)]
AND 26-0058Z. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ANNEXATION AND A ZONING CASE TO R 12. THIS IS RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 4905 COUNTY ROAD 317. MR. REILLY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO THIS IS A PROPERTY. THE PARCEL IS APPROXIMATELY 56.5 ACRES. TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE THIS PARCEL IS LOCATED, IT IS IN THE FAR SOUTHEASTERN PORTION OF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, AND THAT IS THE CONTEXT WITHIN OUR ZONING AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MAPS. AS YOU CAN SEE, ZOOMING IN THIS WILL BE A CONTINUATION OF THAT R 12 RESIDENTIAL USE, WHICH ALIGNS WITH THE COMP PLANS RECOMMENDATIONS. JUST TO THE NORTH OF THERE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE HAVE BEEN LINING UP THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF SOME INDUSTRIAL ZONINGS THE I ONE ZONINGS UP THERE. THAT LINE THAT SEPARATES THE I ONE AND THE C TWO AND R 12 ZONES IS THE FUTURE. 546 ON OUR MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN. AND SO FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S PERSPECTIVE, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO RESERVE NORTH OF FUTURE. 546 FOR THAT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE AND THEN SOME COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE SOUTH OF THAT, AGAIN ALIGNING WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN P AND Z RECOMMENDED UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE THIS ITEM. AND STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ANNEXATION AND REZONE. I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS, ANYONE? LUCAS. I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ONE IS AN OBSERVATION ON PAGE ONE OF THE STAFF REPORT THAT SAYS THE PROPERTY IS IN THE PROSPER ISD. WOULD THAT BE A STRETCH? THAT WOULD BE. THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. THAT SHOULD BE. LOVEJOY LIKELY INCORRECT. YEAH, WE'LL DEFINITELY AN OBSERVATION. ABSOLUTELY. MAKE THAT CORRECT. NEXT ON PAGE TWO OF PAGE THREE OF FOUR, THE FINANCIAL SUMMARY. THE STAFF REPORT SAYS NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO THE FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS OF THE CITY. IT WOULD SEEM LIKE IF WE'RE ANNEXING IN THAT PROPERTY WOULD PICK UP AD VALOREM. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. WOULD BE SOME WINDFALL TO THE CITY FOR 56 ACRES. YES, THERE WILL BE A FINANCIAL IMPACT. I THINK THE WORD SIGNIFICANT IS A VERY SUBJECTIVE WORD, AND I AGREE IT'S NOT HELPFUL IN THIS CASE. UNDERSTOOD. YES. MR. CLOUTIER, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OBSERVATIONS? NO. I'LL JUST ADD TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID ABOUT IMPACT TO THE CITY. WHEN WE ANNEX SOMETHING IN THEY PAY PARK LAND DEDICATION. WE LITIGATED THAT AND IN WORK SESSION ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CITY, WHEN IT'S BUILT IN THE CITY, DOES TO IMPROVE OUR PARKS, PAY FOR OUR PARKS, PAY FOR OUR ROADWAYS, STUFF LIKE THAT. IT'S THE BUILDING IN THE ETJ THAT REALLY COMES IN AND USES OUR LIBRARY, OUR ROADS AND OUR PARKS, AND DOESN'T PAY ANYTHING AND PUTS UPWARD PRESSURE ON OUR TAX RATE. SO ANYTIME WE CAN ANNEX SINGLE FAMILY, I THINK ALMOST ALWAYS THAT'S A HUGE WIN FOR THE CITY. SO I'M GRATEFUL FOR IT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. 
          LUCAS, DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE? I BELIEVE WE DO, YES. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          TRISTAN POOR, 109 PARK CIRCLE HERE IN MCKINNEY. I AM WITH SPIRES ENGINEERING. I'M THE ENGINEER REPRESENTING THE PROJECT AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE. 
          ANYONE. WE DO APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. GLAD TO HAVE YOU, SIR. VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. IF YOU'RE COMING TONIGHT AND WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL REGARDING THIS PROPOSED ANNEXATION AND ZONING CASE, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. 
          SEEING NO ONE IS SIGNED UP WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN FELTUS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM. AS FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN JONES. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THIS MOTION CARRIES. MY VOTE IS SEVEN IN FAVOR AND ZERO AGAINST. THAT ITEM HAS BEEN APPROVED. NEXT 
          [26-0030Z2 Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “AG” - Agricultural District to “C2” - Local Commercial District, Located at 8301 W University Dr, and Accompanying Ordinance]
ITEM IS 26-0030Z2. A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REZONING OF A PROPERTY FROM AG TO C TWO. 
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LOCAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. THIS IS 8301 WEST UNIVERSITY DRIVE. MR. REILLY, THIS IS ANOTHER REZONING REQUEST AGAIN FROM OUR AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO C TWO. SO WE FLYING FROM THE SOUTHWEST ALL THE WAY TO EXCUSE ME, SOUTHEAST ALL THE WAY TO THE MIDWEST PORTION OF THE CITY. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE ICON THERE JUST SOUTH OF 380. THIS PARCEL IS ADJACENT TO THE WEST GROVE DEVELOPMENT THAT MANY PEOPLE KNOW FOR WHOLE FOODS AND THE SUPPORTING RETAIL AND MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON THERE. ZOOMING IN, YOU CAN SEE, SORRY, I'M HAVING SOME TROUBLE WITH THIS CLICKER AS WELL. THERE IT IS. ZOOMING IN. YOU CAN SEE THIS PROPERTY IS A ONE ACRE PARCEL AGAIN, KIND OF SQUEEZED BETWEEN THE WEST GROVE DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST AND A HOA AMENITY AND RETENTION POND TO THE EAST. THIS PROPERTY AGAIN HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AGRICULTURAL. THERE'S AN EXISTING BUILDING ON THE SITE, BUT THE REQUEST TO REZONE TO C-2 ALIGNS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH ITS PROXIMITY TO HIGHWAY 380, AND THE ADJACENT COMMERCIAL USES. P AND Z DID RECOMMEND UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE THIS REZONING, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS WELL. I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM, ANYONE? LUCAS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AS AN APPLICANT HERE. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ALEX. I'M WITH ANA CONSULTANTS, 5000 THOMPSON TERRACE, COLLEYVILLE, TEXAS 76034. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALEX, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? THIS IS A WONKY LOOKING PIECE OF LAND TO ME, THE LAYMAN. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? IT'S INTENDED TO BE. RETAIL, COMMERCIAL RETAIL. I KNOW IT'S ONE ACRE KIND OF LONG, LONG PIECE OF LAND, BUT WE INTEND TO HAVE A BASICALLY BUILDING ON ONE SIDE, FIRE LANE ON ONE SIDE AND PARKING IN THE REAR, INTENDED TO CONNECT TO THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT'S HAPPENING TODAY. THAT'S A BIG DEVELOPMENT, GOOD DEVELOPMENT. 
          JUST THIS IS A STRANGE PIECE OF LAND TO ME, BUT I'M GRATEFUL YOU'RE GOING TO ACTIVATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. YEAH. ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED. IF YOU'VE COME TONIGHT AND WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THIS PROPOSED REZONE, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. 
          SEEING NO ONE IS SIGNED UP OR COMING TO THE PODIUM, WE WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS ITEM AS PRESENTED BY STAFF AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CLOUTIER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. I'LL SECOND, SHE'S MUCH QUICKER THAN YOU ARE. A SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN FELTUS. 
          IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OH, I'M SORRY, HADN'T MOVED. I'M SORRY I WAS FROZEN HERE. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THAT MOTION, THAT 
          [26-0041Z3 Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “ML” - Light Manufacturing District to “I2” - Heavy Industrial District, Located 1710 Couch Drive, and Accompanying Ordinance (REQUEST TO BE TABLED)]
ITEM HAS BEEN APPROVED. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 26-0041Z3. A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A REASONABLE PROPERTY FROM ML LIGHT MANUFACTURING TO L2 HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. THIS IS AT 1710 COUCH DRIVE, MR. REILLY. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS ANOTHER ITEM THAT, DUE TO AIRING AND LABELING AND SIGNS, WE ARE REQUESTING TO TABLE THIS ITEM TO THE AUGUST 4TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING, AND WE ASK THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING REMAIN OPEN UNTIL THAT DATE. OKAY. WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO TABLE FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION, BUT IF YOU COME TONIGHT AND WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THIS PROPOSED REZONE AT 1710 COUCH DRIVE, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME TO THE PODIUM. ALL RIGHT, MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE THAT WE MOVE TO TABLE THIS ITEM AND KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR OR BY COUNCILMAN JONES TO LEAVE TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE THE ITEM UNTIL THE AUGUST 4TH, 2026 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. I'LL. SECOND. SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKLIN. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. VOTE. ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION CARRIES BY A VOTE OF SIX 
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IN FAVOR AND ZERO AGAINST. THAT IS THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. THE NEXT ITEM 
          [PUBLIC COMMENTS regarding matters not on the agenda]
WILL BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE AUDIENCE TO WEIGH IN ON ITEMS, NOT ON OUR AGENDA. WE HAVE A LIST OF SPEAKER CARDS AND WE'LL READ THOSE OFF. WHEN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE, FACE THE COUNCIL AND SO WE CAN HEAR YOU. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS. THREE MINUTES. AND WHEN YOUR TIME, THERE'S A TIMER IN THE CORNER OF THE SCREEN UP HERE. SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOU BEING RESPECTFUL OF OTHERS IN THE ROOM'S TIME. SO WITH THAT, WE WILL START OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS. FIRST. SPEAKER MARLINA RATCLIFF. 
          THANK YOU. I'M A RESIDENT HERE IN MCKINNEY AT 1216 HYDE PARK. I ASKED TO SPEAK TODAY CONCERNING THE JULY 4TH EVENT THAT HAPPENED AT TOWN LAKE PARK. MY NEIGHBORHOOD PARK PLACE IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM TOWN LAKE. AND MY BIGGEST CONCERN THAT I WANTED TO BRING TO THE COUNCIL IS PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES AND TRAFFIC CONTROL. WE EXPERIENCED A HUGE INFLUX OF TRAFFIC IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE. THE CITY DID NOT CLOSE OFF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR TRAFFIC AND OR PARKING, WHICH THEY DID DO LAST YEAR. SO I'M JUST RECOMMENDING THAT PARKS AND REC CHOOSE A DIFFERENT OPTION FOR US AS FAR AS RESIDENTS, SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO CLOSE OFF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR PARKING AND DIRECT TRAFFIC AWAY FROM THE CITIZENS. BECAUSE AS FAR AS PUBLIC SAFETY GOES FROM THE HOURS OF 8 P.M. TO 11 P.M. WE HAD GRIDLOCK IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE AS THE TRAFFIC WAS BEING DIVERTED INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS IS BIG BEN DRIVE. FOR ANYONE NOT FAMILIAR. PEOPLE GOT STUCK IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE REASON WHY THEY GOT STUCK IS BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS PARKING ON THE SIDES OF THE STREET, WITH ONLY ONE WAY GETTING THROUGH NORTH SIDE TO BAKER AND WILLIE. AS THAT GRIDLOCK STARTED TO INCREASE, HUNDREDS OF CARS ARE TRYING TO TRAVERSE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE WAS A CITY TRUCK PARKED AT THE END OF BIG BEND, AND IT WAS A DUMP TRUCK, UNMANNED AND NO POLICE OFFICERS THERE TO MOVE IT IN CASE OF EMERGENCY. SO AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN, I'M CONCERNED FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I LOOKED FOR A POLICE OFFICER AT 11 P.M. I FOUND ONE, FLAGGED HIM DOWN, LET HIM KNOW THE SITUATION, AND HE TOLD ME THAT HE WOULD GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF. THE OTHER ISSUE WAS TRAFFIC CONTROL WAS NOT BEING HANDLED ON THE NORTH END OF BAKER AND WILLIE, WHERE CARS WERE JUST PARKED. PEOPLE GOT OUT OF THEIR CARS, STARTED TO WATCH THE FIREWORKS, AND LEFT THEM PARKED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET. SO FIRE SERVICES, AMBULANCE SERVICES, ANYONE WHO HAD AN ACTUAL EMERGENCY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RECEIVE THOSE EMERGENCY SERVICES OR WOULD HAVE BEEN GREATLY DELAYED. SO I'M JUST ASKING THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER MAYBE FOR FUTURE MEETINGS AND FUTURE EVENTS, A TRAFFIC PLANNING AND TRAFFIC CONTROL REMEDIATION FOR THESE EVENTS AROUND RESIDENTIAL AREAS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. RATCLIFFE. NEXT SPEAKER, NANCY ROBERTSON. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS NANCY ROBERTSON. I AM A MCKINNEY RESIDENT. I LIVE IN THE STONEBRIDGE RANCH COMMUNITY, AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT. 
          I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION OF THE PROPOSED 32 SQUARE FOOT PLACE OF ASSEMBLY AT 53, OH ONE, 53, 11 AND 5231 VIRGINIA PARKWAY. MY CONCERNS ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY CENTER I MOSQUE IS NOT ABOUT WHO WILL USE THE BUILDING, BUT WHETHER THIS SITE IS APPROPRIATE FOR A FACILITY OF THIS SIZE AND THE IMPACT IT WILL HAVE ON THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. BASED ON THE INFORMATION PRESENTED, THIS DEVELOPMENT APPEARS LIKELY TO CREATE SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC AND PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES IF TRAFFIC OFFICERS WILL BE NEEDED TO ASSIST PEDESTRIANS CROSSING A MAJOR ROADWAY DURING PEAK ATTENDANCE. THAT ALONE SUGGESTS THE LOCATION MAY NOT BE 
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SUITABLE FOR A FACILITY GENERATING THIS LEVEL OF ACTIVITY. ANOTHER SERIOUS CONCERN IS PARKING IF THERE IS INSUFFICIENT ONSITE PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE ATTENDEES, VEHICLES WILL INEVITABLY SPILL INTO SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL STREETS. RESIDENTS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH CONGESTED NEIGHBORHOOD ROADS, BLOCKED ACCESS, LIMITED VISITOR PARKING OR INCREASED SAFETY CONCERNS BECAUSE OF A FACILITY EXCEEDS THE CAPACITY OF ITS SITE. THE PROPOSAL ALSO RAISES QUESTIONS ABOUT LONG TERM IMPACTS ON EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, NOISE AND OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE FAMILIES WHO CHOOSE TO LIVE IN THIS RESIDENTIAL AREA. I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO CAREFULLY EVALUATE WHETHER THIS LOCATION CAN REALISTICALLY SUPPORT A HIGH CAPACITY ASSEMBLY USE WITHOUT PLACING AN ONGOING BURDEN ON NEARBY HOMEOWNERS AND TAXPAYERS. EVERY PROJECT SHOULD MEET THE SAME STANDARDS FOR TRAFFIC, PARKING, SAFETY AND COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. IF THOSE STANDARDS CANNOT BE MET AT THIS LOCATION, THEN I RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO DENY THIS APPLICATION OR REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO IDENTIFY A SITE THAT IS BETTER SUITED FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SIZE AND INTENSITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS ROBERTSON. NEXT SPEAKER, MARY JANE MANNING. GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME IS MARY JANE MANNING. I LIVE IN RIDGECREST ESTATES IN MCKINNEY. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH NANCY ROBERTSON. I'M IN OPPOSITION OF THIS FACILITY BECAUSE OF OUR CONCERNS IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE PARKING GOING TO BE LIKE THERE BECAUSE OF THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA AND ALSO THE COMMERCIAL THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT. WE NEED TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THIS? HOW IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT OUR COMMUNITY AS FAR AS THE NEED FOR POLICE OFFICERS? AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN PLANO RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE IN PLANO. I'VE BEEN THERE DURING THE DAY WHEN, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT THEIR CALL TO PRAYER AND THEY STOP TRAFFIC THERE AND EVERYTHING. YOU KNOW, THE, THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET. AND IT'S, IT'S A HAZARD TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THIS GOING TO DO TO THEIR VALUE OF THEIR HOMES IN THAT AREA? YOU KNOW, IS THERE NOT A BETTER SITE TO HAVE THIS? I WANT YOU GUYS TO REALLY LOOK AT THE WHOLE IMPACT OF THIS ON OUR COMMUNITY. NOT JUST ONE, NOT JUST THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE USING THE FACILITY. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS MANNING. NEXT SPEAKER, ASHLEY LOUDON. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. MY NAME IS ASHLEY LOUDON. I AM A US NAVY VETERAN WHO SWORE AN OATH TO SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. THAT OATH DID NOT EXPIRE WHEN I TOOK OFF THE UNIFORM. AND I AM HERE TONIGHT CALLING ON EACH OF YOU TO HONOR THAT SAME OATH YOU TOOK WHEN YOU ASSUMED OFFICE BEFORE. THIS COUNCIL ALLOWS THE MCKINNEY ISLAMIC ASSOCIATION MOSQUE PROJECT TO ADVANCE INTO CONSTRUCTION. I AM HERE TO DEMAND THAT YOU PERFORM REAL DUE DILIGENCE, NOT JUST ON PARKING AND TRAFFIC, BUT ON THE FUNDAMENTAL NATURE OF WHAT IS BEING BUILT IN OUR COMMUNITY. I HAVE PROVIDED EACH OF YOU WITH A COPY OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD 1991 EXPLANATORY MEMORANDUM. THIS IS NOT A FRINGE PAMPHLET. IT HAS BEEN DESCRIBED IN FEDERAL COURT PROCEEDINGS AS AN ETERNAL MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD STRATEGIC DOCUMENT. IN ITS OWN WORDS, IT DESCRIBES ITS WORK IN AMERICA AS A KIND OF GRAND JIHAD IN ELIMINATING AND DESTROYING THE WESTERN CIVILIZATION FROM WITHIN. ACCORDING TO THIS DOCUMENT, AND AS INTERPRETED BY THOSE WHO VIEW IT, WHO VIEW IT AS REFLECTING THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD LONG TERM OBJECTIVES. A MOSQUE IS MORE THAN A HOUSE OF WORSHIP. IT IS DESCRIBED AS SERVING AS A CENTER OF DAWAH, POLITICAL ORGANIZING, COMMUNITY INFLUENCE AND THE ADVANCEMENT OF SHARIA. 
          I BELIEVE THIS THREAT SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN LIGHTLY, AS ELECTED OFFICIALS SWORN TO 
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UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION, INCLUDING THE GUARANTEEING CLAUSE OF ARTICLE FOUR, REQUIRING EVERY STATE TO MAINTAIN A REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT, YOU HAVE A DUTY TO LOOK BEYOND SURFACE SURFACE LEVEL APPROVALS AND ASK THE HARD QUESTIONS. WHERE IS THE FUNDING COMING FROM? OUR FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS OR BROTHERHOOD LINKED NETWORKS INVOLVED? WHAT ARE THE BACKGROUNDS IN THE TEACHING OF THE IMAMS AND LEADERSHIPS YOU CURRENTLY HAVE? IMAMS IN OUR AREA TEACHING THEIR COMMUNITY THAT THEY ARE HERE TO OVERTHROW THE US GOVERNMENT. THESE ARE THEIR WORDS, NOT MINE. ASK YOURSELF, WILL ANY ASSOCIATED PROGRAMS OR SCHOOL TEACH PRINCIPLES THAT CONFLICT WITH THE CONSTITUTION OR AMERICAN LAW? I CALL ON THIS COUNCIL TO IMMEDIATELY PAUSE ANY FURTHER PERMIT PERMITS, INSPECTIONS OR APPROVALS RELATED TO THIS PROJECT UNTIL A FULL AND TRANSPARENT INVESTIGATION IS CONDUCTED. PLEASE READ THE MEMORANDUM THAT I HAVE GIVEN YOU. OUR FAMILIES AND CHILDREN DESERVE LEADERS WHO WILL DEFEND THE CONSTITUTIONAL ORDER WITHOUT APOLOGY OR POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS LOUDEN. NEXT SPEAKER IS KAREN ROE NOT HERE? OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON. DANIEL. I'M SORRY, DARLENE BURKE. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M DARLENE BURKE AND I AM A RESIDENT OF STONEBROOK CROSSING, WHICH THE MOSQUE THE PRIOR SPEAKERS TALKED ABOUT. AND IT'S NOT A MOSQUE. IT'S A 3200 ZERO SQUARE FOOT FACILITY THAT WILL JUST DWARF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES. I MOVED TO MCKINNEY IN 1985, TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN 2000. I WAS INFORMED THAT THIS HAD ALREADY BEEN TABLED OR PUT ASIDE. I JUST FOUND OUT TODAY. SO I ASK FOR YOUR DUE DILIGENCE, AS EVERYONE ELSE IS. HOW WILL THIS IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS TRAFFIC IN MCKINNEY IS REALLY BAD, AS YOU ALL KNOW. I JUST FEEL THAT THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER LOCATION. SHOULD THIS BE GOOD FOR OUR CITY? DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S CATHOLIC CHURCH. BAPTIST CHURCH, I DON'T CARE. THE FACILITY, THEY WERE TRYING TO PUT A MAJOR EVENT CENTER IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD A FEW YEARS AGO. MOST OF YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER THAT I'M JUST WITHIN A BLOCK OF THIS, AND I'M VERY FEARFUL. WE HAVE A VERY QUIET, LOVELY NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT GREENBELT AREA, WHEN I MOVED THERE WAS CONCERNED WHAT MIGHT BE PUT IN THAT AREA. ALL OF US WHO LIVE THERE FEEL SMALL BUSINESSES LIKE A DENTAL OFFICE, A DAYCARE, THINGS LIKE THAT ARE MORE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE GETTING IN AND OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NOW IS REALLY DIFFICULT. I JUST WANT TO VOICE MY OPINION AS A CONCERNED HOMEOWNER AND WHAT IT WILL DO TO THE PROPERTY VALUES, AS WELL AS JUST PARKING IS GOING TO BE RIDICULOUS. THAT AREA ISN'T THAT BIG FOR THAT HUGE A FACILITY. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I APPRECIATE IT AND YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU, MR. BURKE. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. NEXT SPEAKER, DANIELLE THOMAS CHANDLER. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON, KAREN ROW. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, AND THE TRUSTEES HERE. I'M GLAD TO BE HERE. I I'M GOING TO SPEAK QUICKLY THEN. I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE MCKINNEY CITY COUNCIL'S VOTE COMING UP ON THIS MOSQUE AND COMMUNITY CENTER. I UNDERSTAND PNC ALREADY VOTED TO APPROVE IT, AND WE ARE ASKING THAT YOU THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU DO APPROVE IT. I REALIZE THAT THERE'S A PROCESS THAT THEY GO THROUGH, AND WE LOOK AT FACTS AND FIGURES. DO WE KNOW THE REAL RANGE OF ACTIVITIES PLANNED FOR THIS LARGE 3000 232,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY IN THIS LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD? IT IS A VERY QUIET, QUIET, PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD. AS YOU HAVE SEEN AND HEARD. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT OCCUPANCY RATE. OCCUPANCY ALLOWANCES ARE STANDARD AND USUALLY REQUIRE SEVEN SQUARE FEET OF SPACE PER PERSON. WHEN THERE IS NON FIXED SEATING. 
          ISLAMIC WORSHIP CENTERS EXPECT TO QUALIFY FOR STANDING OCCUPANT RATING OF FIVE FEET PER PERSON BECAUSE THERE ARE NO SEATS, SO THAT'S DIFFERENT. I HOPE YOUR ORDINANCES WILL COVER THAT. WHEN A STANDARD CHURCH IS BUILT FOR 5000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, 5000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, THEY CONSIDER IT ABOUT 300 PEOPLE. HOWEVER, AN ISLAMIC ASSEMBLY FOR THE SAME SIZE COULD HOLD OVER A THOUSAND PEOPLE, A THOUSAND. SO THIS IS A 3200 SQUARE FOOT. THAT'S SIX TIMES 300 PEOPLE THAT THEY COULD BE LOOKING AT. ON FRIDAY, THEY WILL HOLD FRIDAY SERVICES 
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FIVE TIMES A DAY, AND THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PEOPLE. ANOTHER FACTOR TO CONSIDER IS WE USUALLY CONSIDER MOST CHURCHES AS THREE PEOPLE PER CAR, BUT FOR ISLAMIC CENTERS OF THIS SIZE, THEY ARE EXPECTING ONE MAIL PER CAR AND THEY RARELY HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING. 
          AND THEY START. THEY'RE FORCED TO PARK IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. I HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE DALLAS AREA WHERE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE ARE COMPLAINING THAT PEOPLE FROM THE MOSQUE ARE PARKING IN THEIR DRIVEWAYS, IN THEIR FRONT YARDS, ALL OVER, UP AND DOWN THE DRIVEWAYS, AND IT MAKES VERY HARD MOVEMENT AROUND THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT DIDN'T HAVE TO PUT UP WITH THAT. DO WE KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU'RE EXPECTING? DO WE KNOW HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE ALLOCATED? WHAT ARE THE TRAFFIC PLANS ARE IN PLACE? DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH POLICE TO COVER FRIDAYS? ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER IS THE ISLAMIC CENTER WILL HAVE RAMADAN CELEBRATIONS. I LIVED IN KUWAIT FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS. I HAVE BEEN AROUND THESE. 
          THESE ARE ALL NIGHT CELEBRATIONS AND IT IS VERY LOUD. LOTS OF PARTYING AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOES NOT APPRECIATE IT AND THEY SUGGEST IT GET MOVED TO A DIFFERENT AREA, ZONED FOR MORE OF AN EVENT CENTER TO HANDLE SO MANY PEOPLE AND SO MUCH GOING ON. 
          ANOTHER ONE, A SAMPLE PUBLIC FORUM. I KNOW FROM ANOTHER SMALL TOWN THAT HAD TO FACE THIS SAME IDEA. PROMISES WERE MADE, BUT FACTS AND FIGURES WERE NOT ADEQUATELY ESTIMATED. 
          WHAT BEGAN AS A WORSHIP CENTER EVOLVED INTO OPENING EVERY DAY FOR FIVE DAILY PRAYERS. THEY HELD A UNIVERSITY EVENING LECTURES, REGIONAL ADULT EDUCATION CLASSES AND THEY COMMUNITY COMPLAINED ABOUT HEAVY TRAFFIC, DOUBLE TRIPLE PARKING, INTRUDERS IN THEIR YARDS. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE. OH I'M SORRY, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. WE APPRECIATE YOU. I HOPE, I HOPE I HAVE HELPED YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS SUPER CRITICAL. THIS IS NOT JUST NOTHING, NOT JUST ANOTHER CHURCH. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. NEXT SPEAKER, TRISH ROBERTS. TRISH ROBERTS. TRICIA ROBERTS. I MAYOR AND COUNCIL PEOPLE. I AM TRICIA ROBERTS. I LIVE DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY, AND I SENT SEVERAL EMAILS THIS WEEK TO COUNCIL AND IT WAS CONCERNING THE THE HEAT THAT OUR HOMELESS RESIDENTS ARE HAVING TO LIVE THROUGH. I CALL THE CITY OF RICHARDSON AND THE CITY OF PLANO AND GOT WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO HELP SUPPORT OUR FRIENDS THAT ARE OUT ON THE STREET. AND I SENT AN EMAIL TO Y'ALL HOPING FOR DISCUSSIONS. 
          AND I THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN AND MAYOR COX, FOR RESPONDING. I'D LIKE TO HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION WITH ANY OF Y'ALL THAT WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE TIME ON JUST WHAT I THINK THE NEEDS OF OUR FRIENDS ARE. THEY'RE SUFFERING. SO IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION, YOU HAVE MY EMAIL, YOU HAVE MY PHONE NUMBER, AND I'D LOVE TO TALK. THANK YOU, MISS ROBERTS. NEXT SPEAKER. 
          DEBBIE LINDSTROM. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY. I KNOW IT TAKES A LOT OF EXTRA TIME AND EFFORT TO DO THINGS. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. I'M HERE ASKING THE COUNCIL TO DELAY APPROVAL OF ITEM 250081 SP. 
          THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING, BASICALLY BECAUSE NEARBY NEIGHBORS WERE NOT PROPERLY NOTIFIED ABOUT THE PROPOSED RELIGIOUS FACILITY. AND YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD THAT FROM ONE CITIZEN TODAY. TRANSPARENCY MATTERS, AND THE PEOPLE MOST AFFECTED SHOULD HAVE HAD A FAIR CHANCE TO LEARN ABOUT IT AND TO RESPOND AS A BASIC PRINCIPLE OF OPEN GOVERNMENT NOTICE SHOULD BE GIVEN IN A MANNER THAT PROVIDES PUBLICITY TO THOSE AFFECTED. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, ONE PUBLIC NOTICE RULE STATES THAT IT SHOULD BE GIVEN, QUOTE, IN SOME CONSPICUOUS, CONSPICUOUS PLACE OR PLACES, UNQUOTE, AND QUOTE IN SUCH OTHER MANNER AS APPEARS DESIRABLE FOR GIVING PUBLICITY TO THE NOTICE, UNQUOTE. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A POSTPONEMENT UNTIL PROPER NOTICE IS PROVIDED AND THE COMMUNITY HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. MISS. NEXT SPEAKER IS KEN PITTMAN. NOT HERE. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON. PAUL BALLESTEROS. HOPE TO HAVE A CASE OF THIS GUY IS BETTER OFF TO DO THAT. OKAY. GOOD EVENING PAUL BALLESTEROS 6508. MARVIN 
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GARDENS MCKINNEY TEXAS 75070. AND I'M NOT JUST A RESIDENT. I'M ALSO THE FOUNDER OF THE NONPROFIT IMMANUEL LABOR. AND OUR MISSION, IN SHORT, IS TO REMOVE THE LESSNESS FROM HOMELESSNESS IN JESUS NAME. BUT BEFORE ON THAT I'M A HUSBAND, I'M A FATHER, I'M A LITTLE LEAGUE COACH. AND I ACTUALLY MISSED OUR FIRST GATHERING FOR THE FALL SEASON TO BE HERE TONIGHT, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT OPERATION PHILIP, AND IT'S SPELLED PHIL IN HONOR OF MY FRIEND PHILIP ENRIGHT, WHO JUST PASSED AWAY JULY 10TH. AND HE WAS FOUND JUST SOUTH OF THE SNOW WHITE FROM SNOW WHITE LAUNDROMAT. AND PHILIP IS SOMEBODY THAT I SERVED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, AND HE IS ONE OF THE MOST FAVORED PEOPLE I EVER GOT TO KNOW. AND I AM NOT SHOCKED THAT HE PASSED AWAY OUTSIDE, BUT IT STILL HURTS. 
          WE'VE HAD FIVE PEOPLE IN THE HOSPITAL THIS WEEK DUE TO UNDERLYING CAUSES, BUT AFFECTED BY THE HEAT. I HAD THE PRECIOUS PRIVILEGE OF BEING THE ONE TO NOTIFY PHILIP'S FAMILY BECAUSE I WAS THE EMERGENCY CONTACT ON HIS ID. WE HAVE A GREAT STAFF HERE. THE MEDICAL EXAMINER WAS VERY KIND AND TOLD ME THERE WAS NO SIGNS OF FOUL PLAY. THERE WAS NO DRUGS, FOUND NO PARAPHERNALIA, FOUND THAT IT LOOKED LIKE PHILIP LAID DOWN AND JUST DIDN'T WAKE UP. I'VE SEEN PHILIP OVER THE YEARS AND SEE HIM DETERIORATE, BUT I CANNOT IGNORE THAT THE HEAT WAS NOT A FACTOR. SO THIS WEEK, AFTER DOING A LOT OF SORT OF BEGGING AND PLEADING, I GOT A CHURCH TO OPEN UP THEIR DOORS TO ME SO THAT I CAN OPEN A COOLING STATION JUST FROM 2 TO 6 P.M. IT'S MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, AND IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. IT'S REALLY SIMPLE. 
          AND THERE ARE OTHER FOLKS THERE THAT WE GET TO TALK AND HEAR THEIR STORIES. AND AS A RESULT OF JUST SITTING WITH PEOPLE TODAY IN A MORE PLEASANT ENVIRONMENT, PEOPLE WERE OPENED UP. THEY WERE SO GRATEFUL. AND WE USE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP POINT PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. MOST OF OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE VERY MODEST GOALS. YOUR NEIGHBORS, THEY HAVE VERY MODEST GOALS. THE PROBLEM IS THE PLAN. AND WHEN YOU'RE SLEEP DEPRIVED, STIGMATIZED AND TRAUMATIZED, IT IS VERY HARD TO WORK ON A PLAN. YOU NEED SOMEBODY WILLING TO COME ALONGSIDE, AND WE NEED PEOPLE WILLING TO JUST GIVE US THE SPACE TO USE. TRISH HAD MENTIONED THE CITY OF PLANO IS OPENING THEIR REC CENTERS. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING SIMPLE THAT WE COULD DO. AND IF IT MEANS THAT, HEY, PAUL, CAN YOU BE THERE TO HELP OUT? IT WOULD BE MY HONOR. IT'D BE MY PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO TO BE OVER THERE TO TRY TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, BECAUSE THERE ARE PRECIOUS LIVES. AND A LOT OF TIMES WE LOOK AT IT, AND I KNOW WE'RE TALKING WITH UT DALLAS ABOUT THINGS, BUT MY MY HEART IS WHY ISN'T ONE ENOUGH? WHY ISN'T ONE ENOUGH? PHILIP WAS AN AMAZING PERSON. AND IF YOU DIDN'T GET TO MEET HIM, I'M SO SORRY FOR YOU BECAUSE MY LIFE IS FOREVER CHANGED. IT'S BECAUSE OF HIM. HE. HE WON'T BE IN A HISTORY BOOK THAT ANYBODY ELSE READS, BUT HE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE IN MY HEART AND I WISH HE WAS IN YOURS. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER, DASH HAAS HOUSE. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO THANK PAUL AND PATRICIA FOR THEIR COMMENTS. THAT WAS VERY MOVING, GIVEN WHAT I'M ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE HOMELESS OWNERS ASSOCIATION OF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, THE REASONABLE HOMELESS PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT TO BE TREATED LIKE PEOPLE. WE'VE BEEN RUNNING EMERGENCY HYDRATION STATIONS ON OUR OWN, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE PROBLEM OF WATER IS GOING TO HAPPEN, AND WE CAN'T NECESSARILY RELY ON THE CITY IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GETS HYDRATED. BECAUSE, AS PAUL DID POINT OUT, THERE WERE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT ENDED UP IN THE HOSPITAL AND ONE MAN DID DIE, AND THAT WAS HORRIBLE, BUT THEY COST $11. I'M RUNNING THREE OF THEM RIGHT NOW. IF YOU GO TO A CHURCH OR YOU'RE PART OF ANY ORGANIZATION THAT REALLY CARES ABOUT PEOPLE, IT COSTS $11 TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEONE HAS SOMETHING TO DRINK AND YOU CAN DO IT ALL ON YOUR OWN. AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR A BIG GOVERNMENT PROGRAM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I'M NOT ASKING FOR MONEY MYSELF. I'M LIKE, I'M I'M RUNNING THREE BY MYSELF, SIR. I SMELL LIKE. LIKE, LET'S JUST BE HONEST ABOUT IT. 
          I'M HOMELESS, BUT IF I CAN DO IT, YOU CAN DO IT. AND IF YOU GO TO A CHURCH, WHY ISN'T YOUR CHURCH DOING THAT? YOU KNOW, LIKE JESUS SAID, GIVE WATER TO THE TO THE THIRSTY. YOU KNOW THIS. LIKE PAUL SAID, THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. I'M NOT ASKING FOR LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD, I'M GOING TO BUILD UP TO SOME OTHER STUFF THAT I'D LIKE TO ASK PEOPLE FOR. BUT LIKE, ANYBODY CAN DO IT. THERE'S NO GOVERNMENT PROGRAM. I'M NOT REALLY SPEAKING TO YOU GUYS RIGHT NOW. I'M KIND OF SPEAKING TO THE AUDIENCE. AND I THINK BILL COX UNDERSTANDS THAT. BUT 
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IF YOU HAVE $11, YOU COULD SAVE A LIFE. LIKE WE SAVED A LIFE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE DID, THIS MAN DRANK LIKE 12 BOTTLES OF WATER AND HE HAD TO DRINK PICKLE JUICE. AND IT WAS JUST, IT WAS REALLY BAD, YOU KNOW, AT THE VERY LEAST, WE SAVED A PARAMEDICS CALL, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S $11. SO IF YOU HAVE $11, JUST SET SOME WATER OUT OR GO TO YOUR CHURCH AND GET SOME WATER OUT AND JUST, I DON'T KNOW, HELP. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MR. HOUSE. 
          NEXT SPEAKER IS KEN PITTMAN. KEN PITTMAN, YES, YES, YES. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE, MAYOR AND THE OTHERS TIME FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME. I AGREE WITH NANCY, ASHLEY, DEBBIE, AND NUMEROUS OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE PROBABLY IN THE CROWD HERE IN REFERENCE TO THIS MUSLIM MOSQUE THAT IS IN PRODUCTION AND IN PLAY HERE. THIS HAS HAPPENED MANY, MANY TIMES AND MANY OTHER SITUATIONS IN THE STATE. AND HOPEFULLY YOU'RE AWARE OF THOSE. I DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO OVER THOSE HERE, BUT THIS IS A MAJOR CONFLICT NOT ONLY WITH OUR CONSTITUTION AS A COUNTRY, BUT OUR CONSTITUTION AS A STATE. AND ONE OF THE ISSUES I WANTED TO MENTION WAS THIS RLUIPA, THE RELIGIOUS LAND USE AND INSTITUTIONALIZED PERSONS ACT, WHICH REALLY ALLOWS GOVERNMENT BODIES TO ALLOW RELIGIOUS ACTIVITIES TO HAPPEN. BUT THAT DOESN'T PREVENT YOU FROM STOPPING SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL IS OUT OF LINE, BE IT AGAINST THE ELECTRICAL STANDARDS, YOU HAVE SAFETY STANDARDS, YOU HAVE TRAFFIC, ANY SORT OF OTHER SAFETY ISSUES DO YOU FEEL MAY BE IN PLAY HERE? THAT'S IMPORTANT, AS YOU KNOW. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I WOULD STAND UP AND SAY THAT WE NEED TO CHECK OUT THOSE THINGS FIRST BEFORE WE APPROVE THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE GETTING INVOLVED IN HERE. THIS IS A CAN OF WORMS THAT CAN REALLY RUN AFOUL OF THE CONSTITUTION, AND NOT ONLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS MENTIONED, BUT MANY OTHER THINGS THAT ARE THAT ARE CONTRARY TO THE TO THE HEALTH OF OUR COUNTRY, THE HEALTH OF OUR CITIES, THE HEALTH OF OUR STATE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. PITTMAN. IF I MISPRONOUNCE YOUR NAME, I APOLOGIZE. NEXT CARD IS FROM N A NUMBER ONE. 
          ALL RIGHT. NO, IN A NUMBER ONE. NUMBER N A, IT'S JOHN DOE. SEE THAT? SEE JOHN DOE? YEAH, I REALLY? YEAH. OKAY. SORRY. I AM, HOWEVER, A RESIDENT OF MCKINNEY. THANK YOU, MR. HALL. CITY COUNCIL, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. DON'T APPRECIATE THAT. I DID IT FOR A REASON. AND STATE OF TEXAS HAS CODE 552.117575 THAT SAYS AS A VETERAN, AS AND AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, I HAVE THAT RIGHT TO DO THAT. BUT THAT'S NOT WHY I'M HERE. LIKE ME, YOU ALL TOOK AN OATH TO PROTECT AND DEFEND THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. YOUR UPCOMING VOTE ON THE FOURTH IS AN OPPORTUNITY. IT'S A CHANCE FOR YOU TO DO JUST THAT. REGARDING THAT PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON VIRGINIA PARKWAY AND CRUTCHER CROSSING, WILL DURANT STATED, A GREAT CIVILIZATION IS NOT CONQUERED FROM WITHOUT UNTIL IT HAS DESTROYED ITSELF FROM WITHIN. 
          NOW BEING A COUNCIL MEMBERS CHALLENGING, I GET THAT MAKING DECISIONS IS DIFFICULT. I UNDERSTAND THAT. HOWEVER, EACH ONE OF YOU PROMISED YOUR CONSTITUENTS THAT YOU WOULD LOOK OUT FOR THEIR BEST INTERESTS OF THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES, AND SOON YOU'RE GOING TO BE FACED WITH THAT DECISION AND MAKING IT SHOULD BE EASY. THE VOTE SCHEDULED ON THE FOURTH. REGARDING THAT PROPOSED VIRGINIA, IT'S SIMPLE VOTE NO. WHY IS IT SIMPLE? THERE'S NO NEED FOR ANOTHER MOSQUE IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS. THERE ARE SEVERAL ALREADY IN EXISTENCE. 
          THREE OF THEM ARE LESS THAN TEN MILES, LESS THAN 20 MINUTES FROM THAT PROPOSED LOCATION. 
          THE OTHERS BARELY 11 MILES. AND GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE, I DRIVE ABOUT 20 MINUTES, ABOUT 11 MILES, TO GO TO MY PREFERRED HOUSE OF WORSHIP. AND OH, BY THE WAY, THEY DO MULTIPLE SERVICES OVER MULTIPLE DAYS TO ACCOMMODATE THE NUMBER IN THEIR CONGREGATIONS. THE CITIZENS OF 
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BROOKVIEW. AS WE'VE ALREADY LEARNED, LEGEND OF MCKINNEY STONEBROOK CROSSING, THEY'RE NOT EVEN AWARE OF THIS. AND I HAVE TO. THAT BEGS THE QUESTION, WHY? THESE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS WILL BE UNDULY ENCUMBERED BY THIS MOSQUE. HAS AN IMPACT STUDY BEEN CONDUCTED TO DETERMINE WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE? AS A STUDY BEEN CONDUCTED TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE CAN HANDLE THE TRAFFIC FLOW, WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS WHEN THE CALL TO PRAYER IS BLASTED FIVE TIMES A DAY? AND TRUST ME, THAT WILL COME. BUILDING ANOTHER MOSQUE IS SIMPLY ANOTHER WAY TO LAY A CLAIM TO CONQUERED TERRITORY. IF THERE ARE TOO MANY WORSHIPING WORSHIPERS, THE EXISTING MOSQUES SHOULD BE ENCUMBERED TO ADD ADDITIONAL SERVICES TO THEIR CALENDAR INSTEAD OF ENCUMBERING THE CITIZENS TO ACCOMMODATE ANOTHER MOSQUE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 
          NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE JOHN DOE NUMBER TWO. BEFORE YOU START, MY NAME IS JOHN DOE. NUMBER TWO. 
          YOU COULD CALL ME JOHN DOE JR IF YOU'D LIKE. BEFORE WE START MY TIME, COULD I SAY SOMETHING? COULD I CONGRATULATE DOCTOR FELTUS FOR SURE? YEAH. ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I WAS AT AN ELECTION AS A POLL GREETER. IT WAS VERY HOT. I GOT OUT, PUT UP MY CHAIR TO SIT IN OUTSIDE THE 100 FOOT EXCLUSIONARY ZONE. YOU REMEMBER THIS? AND I WAS TOLD BY A COWORKER THAT I WASN'T AUTHORIZED A CHAIR, AND I'M A 90% DISABLED VETERAN. I'M ALSO 72 YEARS OLD. WELL, MISS FELTUS OR DOCTOR FELTUS STOOD, WAS ABOUT TEN FEET AWAY, AND SHE TURNED AROUND AND SMILED AND SAID, I'LL FIX THAT RIGHT NOW. SO IT NOT ONLY HELPED ME, BUT THE NEXT DAY WHEN I SHOWED UP, EVERYBODY HAD CHAIRS. SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT. NOW FOR MY THREE. THANK YOU. THIS BOOK, MOSQUES IN AMERICA. I WOULD SUGGEST ALL YOU GUYS READ IT. IT'S SUBTITLED A GUIDE TO ACCOUNTABLE PERMIT HEARINGS AND CONTINUING CITIZEN OVERSIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT. THE CONTINUING CITIZEN OVERSIGHT. EXCUSE ME. I'VE GOT THIS ON MY CELL PHONE. OKAY. SO I GOT SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU. AND THEY LARGELY HAVE TO DO WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PREVENT THINGS LIKE THE RADICAL RADICALIZATION OF YOUTH? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GUARANTEE MUSLIM WOMEN'S CIVIL RIGHTS, PREVENT OR INVESTIGATE PRACTICES OF SHARIA LAW THAT VIOLATE CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED CIVIL RIGHTS? THOSE INCLUDE FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION, MUTILATION, POLYGAMY, UNDERAGE MARRIAGE, RAPE, UNLAWFUL SHARIA, COURT RULINGS AND VERDICTS, INEQUITABLE DIVORCE AND PROPERTY LAWS. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PREVENT A MOSQUE BEING USED FOR AN OPERATING BASE? WEAPONS STORAGE TRAINING CENTERS IN MOST COMMUNICATIONS ABOUT MOSQUES, OFTEN NOT IN MOST, BUT IN MANY OF THEM, OFTEN. THE MILITARY TERM BATTALION IS USED NOW AN ARMY BATTALION, INFANTRY BATTALIONS, 500 ARMED YOUNG MEN. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY MOSQUE COULD SUPPORT THAT, BUT WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? ABOUT A HUNDRED ARMED YOUNG MEN. SO NOT A PRETTY PICTURE. NOW, I DON'T DENY ANYBODY'S RIGHT TO WORSHIP HOWEVER THEY WANT TO. I DO DENY THEIR RIGHT TO VIOLATE THE CONSTITUTION AND AS A CITY GOVERNMENT, YOU HAVE TO BE PREPARED AND AFFORD TO PROVIDE THE PROTECTION FOR THAT. THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE INCREASED POLICE PATROLS. IT'S GOING TO INCLUDE MONITORING SUCH AS GEOFENCING, UNANNOUNCED FIRE AND SAFETY INSPECTIONS, WHERE EVERY DOOR IS UNLOCKED, EVERY CABINET IS UNLOCKED, ANY UNDERGROUND FACILITIES ARE DISCOVERED, INVESTIGATED, INSPECTED. OKAY, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED FLOCK CAMERAS, POSSIBLY INCREASED. POLICE PATROL AND SWAT TEAM, INCREASED STRENGTH CULTIVATING MUSLIM INFORMANTS. 
          CAN THE CITY AFFORD THESE THINGS? ADDITIONAL THINGS WITHOUT RAISING TAXES ON OUR NON-MUSLIM CITIZENS? THESE ARE NOT ONLY POTENTIAL THREATS TO OUR COMMUNITY, BUT ARE ALSO DEMONSTRATED ACTIONS ELSEWHERE. THE IDEA THAT IT CAN HELP HERE CAN'T HAPPEN HERE IS NONSENSE. 
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IT CAN HAPPEN HERE. IT WILL HAPPEN HERE. THE BATACLAN, BATACLAN THEATER MASSACRE. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. ANYONE ELSE THAT MAY NOT HAVE TURNED IN A CARD OR MIGHT HAVE COME IN LATE? ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON. COUNCIL COMMENTS. MR. LYNCH. 
          [COUNCIL AND MANAGER COMMENTS]
NONE THIS EVENING, COUNCILMAN JONES. OKAY, MOVING RIGHT ALONG. COUNCILMAN BELLER. I'LL JUST MENTION. MY WIFE AND I GOT TO ATTEND THE GROUNDBREAKING FOR THE CHRISTIAN HERITAGE CENTER. 
          AND IT WAS A FASCINATING EXPERIENCE FOR US. IT WAS UP AT MYERS PARK WHERE THEY WERE BUILDING RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, RIGHT ACROSS LAKE FOREST. AND THEY DID A THING WHERE THEY DUG OUT THE GROUND. AND PATRICK WAS THERE WITH US, TOO. AND THEY, THEY BASICALLY, HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE IT? APOLOGIZE FOR THE FOR WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO TO MOTHER EARTH, TO MOTHER EARTH. AND JUST A REALLY FASCINATING EXPERIENCE TO BE WITH THEM AND CELEBRATE THEIR GROUNDBREAKING AND, AND REALLY CELEBRATE THE DIVERSITY WE HAVE HERE IN MCKINNEY. AND SO HAPPY THEY'RE GETTING STARTED AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT THEY BRING TO OUR COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELCOME. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN BELLER AND I AND COUNCILMAN JONES ACTUALLY GOT TO GOT A CHANCE TO BE SPEAKERS FOR THE ALLIANCE OF ELITE YOUTH LEADERSHIPS INTERNSHIP PROGRAM. THEY HAVE A GROUP OF YOUNG PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPENT SOME TIME WITH THE ORGANIZATION LEARNING A LOT ABOUT THE CITY, BUT ALSO JUST GETTING SOME PERSONAL MENTORSHIP. VERY IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM THAT THEY'VE DONE FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, BUT WANTED TO THANK THEM FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET A CHANCE TO INVEST IN THE YOUNG PEOPLE HERE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE THAT COMMON GOOD MEDICAL HAS MOVED ACROSS TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY. IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT ORGANIZATION, YOU SHOULD BE. IT IS A FANTASTIC ORGANIZATION PROVIDING HEALTH CARE TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO INSURANCE AND WHO ARE LIVING IN POVERTY AND HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, REALLY THE ENTIRE HEALTH PLANS IN THIS AREA, I'M SURE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BY TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE AND PREVENTING THEM FROM HAVING TO GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM. BUT THEY HAVE FOUND A WAY TO SUPPORT THESE FOLKS, PROVIDE CARE EVEN BEYOND WHAT YOU WOULD TYPICALLY SEE IN A PRIMARY CARE SETTING. THEY'VE DONE SO WELL THAT THEY'VE GROWN OUT OF THEIR SPACE, WHICH IS NOT FAR FROM HERE, AND HAVE HAD TO MOVE OVER TO THE WEST SIDE. SO THEY'RE EXPANDING SERVICES, HOPING TO BRING A CT SCAN OR AN MRI MACHINE OVER THERE, AND EXPAND SERVICES AND ACCESS TO OTHER SUBSPECIALISTS LIKE CARDIOLOGISTS AND GASTROENTEROLOGISTS AND SURGEONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO BE JOINING THEM FOR THE RIBBON CUTTING OF THAT NEW FACILITY ON SATURDAY, I BELIEVE, AT 10:00, IS THAT CORRECT? SO IF YOU ARE FREE AND WANT TO LEARN MORE, PLEASE COME OUT AND JOIN US. I THINK IT'S AT NOON. AT NOON, I THINK SO IN THE DEAD OF THE HEAT AT NOON, JOIN US. WE NORMALLY DO SOME LIGHTER STUFF HERE AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DID, BUT I RESPECT THAT Y'ALL ALL CAME OUT TO TALK ABOUT THE MOSQUE. I WANT TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS ON THAT. MY COMMENTS ARE GOING TO BE RATHER BRIEF. THEY'RE GOING TO STARTLE YOU A LITTLE BIT, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BECAUSE THEY'RE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU THINK. BUT I WANT YOU TO HAVE THE INFORMATION. WE HAVE TWO WEEKS UNTIL THIS IS DONE. THE MCKINNEY ISLAMIC ASSOCIATION IS CURRENTLY LOCATED IN MCKINNEY, AND THEY'RE MOVING THEIR MOSQUE. 
          THEIR CURRENT MOSQUE IS RIGHT THERE AT HARDIN AND EL DORADO, NOT FAR FROM MY HOUSE. THEY HAVE LIKE 40 PARKING SPACES. AND IF YOU GO THERE TO THAT SHOPPING CENTER, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF SIGNS THAT SAY NO MOSQUE PARKING, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE SHOPPING CENTER. SO THEY MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH TOM THUMB. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, ON FRIDAYS, THERE IS PEOPLE CROSSING THE ROAD ALL THE TIME THERE. NOW, WHAT THEY DID IS THEY BOUGHT THE PIECE OF LAND OVER THERE BY CRUTCHER CROSSING BY STONEBROOK. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW, IT WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO AFTER THEY BOUGHT IT, THAT THEY THEY FULLY ANTICIPATED THEY COULD BUILD WHAT THEY WANT THERE. WHAT THEY WANTED WAS A 4500 ZERO SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT REQUIRED A ZONING CHANGE. THAT'S WHEN YOU GET THE NOTICE. WHEN A ZONING CHANGE IS ASKED FOR, THAT'S WHEN THE NOTICE COMES OUT. THAT'S WHEN EVERYTHING HAPPENS. IT WAS HEARD AT THE AT P AND Z. I WAS AT THAT PNC MEETING. IT WAS HOURS OF COMMENTS. P AND Z VOTED IT DOWN WITH BILL COX, THE CHAIRMAN. 6 TO 1 OR MAYBE SEVEN TO NOTHING. WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE TAPE, BUT IT WAS A RESOUNDING DEFEAT. NOW, WHAT THAT ALLOWED THEM TO DO WAS TO BUILD ON THE ZONING THAT THEY ENJOYED. THEY ENJOY A 1997 VERY ANTIQUATED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING. IF THEY BUILD TO THAT ZONING SPECIFICALLY WITH NO VARIATIONS, THIS COUNCIL AND PNC HAS NO POWER TO STOP THEM. WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, AND THIS IS WEIRD. 
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AND LOOK, LOOK, LOOK THIS UP IF YOU WANT TO. WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS GIVE SITE PLAN APPROVAL IN A MINISTERIAL WAY WHERE WE JUST SAY, OKAY, WHAT IF WE SAY NO, THEY'RE GOING TO SUE US AND THEY'RE GOING TO WIN, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD IT ANYWAY, AND WE'RE GOING TO PAY LEGAL FEES. THAT'S THE REALITY THAT WE'RE SITTING HERE WITH. THAT'S IT NOW. YES. I'M RIGHT. 
          YOU FEEL FREE TO LOOK IT UP. YOUR FOLKS WERE OUT THERE. THE FOLKS AT STONEBROOK WERE OUT THERE. NOW THE SAME THING HAPPENED IS, IS, IS, IS A ZONING THING ENJOYED BY THE EVENT CENTER AT THE HARD CORNER OF LAKE FOREST. THE SAME THING HAPPENED THERE. THEY WENT THROUGH ZONING CHANGES. IT WAS THEY GOT NO, NO, NO, NO. FINALLY THEY CAME BACK TO GET A MINISTERIAL APPROVAL FROM PNC AND COUNCIL, AND THEY GOT IT BECAUSE WE HAD NO CHOICE. DID THEY EVER BUILD IT? NOPE. THEY DIDN'T. BUT THEY TOMORROW. YEP. THEY MIGHT. SO WE HAVE TWO WEEKS. FEEL FREE TO LOOK INTO EVERYTHING I SAID. WE DON'T HAVE A BITE AT THIS APPLE. 
          THERE WAS A REASON IT WASN'T NOTICED. LOOK IT UP. FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME. FEEL FREE TO EMAIL EVERYBODY UP HERE. BUT THAT IS WHERE WE ARE ON THIS THING. SO NO MORE CHANCE TO TALK TONIGHT. 
          BUT MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. WE'VE HAD A TRAGIC WEEK. IN TWO WEEKS IN MCKINNEY. WE'VE HAD FAMILIES DEALING WITH THE LOSS OF LIFE. IT'S BEEN IN THE NEWS MEDIA, TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS. I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO PLEASE DRIVE SAFE, LOOK OUT FOR THE OTHER DRIVER. AND LASTLY, CHECK ON YOUR NEIGHBORS. CHECK ON YOUR NEIGHBORS, PLEASE, MR. CITY MANAGER. YES, SIR. MR. MAYOR, JUST A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS. LAST WEEK, MCKINNEY CELEBRATED ONE OF THE LARGEST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ANNOUNCEMENTS IN OUR CITY'S HISTORY WITH LIGHT ON'S SELECTION OF MCKINNEY FOR ITS NEW U.S. MANUFACTURING CAMPUS AND THE NORTH AMERICAN HEADQUARTERS. THIS TRANSFORMATIONAL INVESTMENT REPRESENTS MORE THAN 600 NEW JOBS AND A $919 MILLION INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          I'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THE MCKINNEY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND EVERYONE WHOSE YEARS OF COLLABORATION AND HARD WORK HELPED MAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY A REALITY. WE ALSO, ON THE PROCUREMENT SIDE OF THE CITY, WE HAVE A CITY SURPLUS AUCTION. WE WANT TO LET OUR RESIDENTS KNOW THAT CITY'S PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT IS CURRENTLY HOSTING ITS ONLINE SURPLUS AUCTION RUNNING THROUGH THURSDAY, JULY 23RD. THE AUCTION INCLUDES A VARIETY OF SURPLUS CITY ASSETS, INCLUDING VEHICLES, OFFICE FURNITURE, EQUIPMENT AND OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE NO LONGER NEEDED FOR CITY OPERATIONS. RESIDENTS CAN LEARN MORE AT MCKINNEY, TEXAS.ORG. 
          AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. CITY MANAGER. WITH THAT, WE WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN FELTUS TO ADJOURN. SECOND. 
          SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM FRANKLIN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.
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