Aug 04, 2026 City Council Work Session

[CALL TO ORDER]

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THIS IS THE CITY OF MCKINNEY CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION. IT'S TUESDAY, AUGUST THE 4TH, 2026.

[26-0739 Police Department Recognition]

WE HAVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT RECOGNITION CHIEF. MAYOR, COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME. I'M NOT MAKING THESE STORIES UP. THIS IS JUST REFLECTIVE OF THE GREAT WORK THESE MEN AND WOMEN DO EVERY DAY. THIS IS ALEX VILLALPANDO. ALEX VILLALPANDO JOINED THE MCKINNEY POLICE DEPARTMENT IN OCTOBER OF 2021 AFTER SERVING EIGHT YEARS AS A POLICE OFFICER IN CALIFORNIA ON MAY 23RD OF 2024, WHILE RESPONDING TO A CALL FOR SERVICE AT HIGHWAY 380 IN REDBUD, HE SUSTAINED A CAREER ENDING INJURY THAT ENDED HIS SERVICE AS A SWORN OFFICER. FOR MANY OFFICERS, SUCH AN INJURY WOULD END HIS CAREER, BUT FOR ALEX, IT JUST BEGAN A NEW CAREER. RATHER THAN STEPPING AWAY FROM PUBLIC SERVICE, ALEX CHOSE TO CONTINUE SERVING THE MCKINNEY POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE CITY OF MCKINNEY AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PROFESSION BY DEVELOPING FUTURE OFFICERS. IN MAY OF 2025, HE TRANSITIONED INTO THE TRAINING UNIT AS THE TRAINING COORDINATOR FOR THE PLANO RICHARDSON POLICE ACADEMY, WHICH IS A POLICE ACADEMY COMPRISED OF THE FIVE MAJOR CITIES IN COLLIN COUNTY ALLEN, FRISCO, MCKINNEY, PLANO AND RICHARDSON. ALTHOUGH HIS ROLE CHANGED, HIS COMMITMENT TO SERVICE AND DEVELOPING, OTHERS DID NOT. IN OCTOBER OF 2025, ALEX WAS SELECTED TO SERVE AS THE ACADEMY COORDINATOR FOR THE BACKPACK OR BASIC POLICE OFFICERS ACADEMY NUMBER 26.

THROUGHOUT THE SIX MONTH ACADEMY, HE DISTINGUISHED HIMSELF THROUGH HIS PROFESSIONALISM, HIS MENTORSHIP AND PREPARED THE RECRUITS FROM MULTIPLE AGENCIES AND FIREARMS, DEFENSIVE TACTICS, PHYSICAL FITNESS AND CLASSROOM INSTRUCTION. HIS LEADERSHIP HELPED GRADUATE 20 NEW POLICE OFFICERS ON MAY 1ST, 2026. ALEX'S IMPACT EXTENDED BEYOND THE ACADEMY DURING THE ANNUAL BASIC POLICE OFFICER ACADEMY MEETING HOSTED AT THE PLANO POLICE DEPARTMENT, ATTENDED BY THE CHIEFS OF PLANO, FRISCO, ALLEN AND RICHARDSON. PLANO POLICE CHIEF DRAIN PRAISED ALEX'S LEADERSHIP OF CLASS NUMBER 26 AND THE RELATIONSHIPS HE HAD BUILT WITH THE RECRUITS, CHIEF WILSON AND CHIEF TITTLE OF FRISCO AND RICHARDSON ECHOED THESE SENTIMENTS AND RECOGNIZED HIS PROFESSIONALISM AND THE POSITIVE INFLUENCE HE HAD HAD ON THEIR FUTURE OFFICERS. ALEX'S STORY IS ONE OF RESILIENCE, SELFLESSNESS AND UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SERVICE. FACED WITH CIRCUMSTANCES THAT COULD HAVE ENDED HIS CONTRIBUTION TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, HE CHOSE INSTEAD TO CONTINUE SERVING BY PREPARING THOSE WHO WILL PROTECT OUR COMMUNITIES FOR YEARS TO COME. HIS IMPACT IS NO LONGER MEASURED SOLELY BY THE CALLS HE ANSWERS, BUT BY THE OFFICERS HE HELPED SHAPE, MENTOR AND INSPIRE. THROUGH HIS DEDICATION, ALEX HAS STRENGTHENED THE REPUTATION OF THE MCKINNEY POLICE DEPARTMENT, ADVANCED THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PROFESSION, AND DEMONSTRATED THE TRUEST MEASURE OF SERVICE IS NOT IN THE POSITION YOU HOLD, BUT IN THE LIVES YOU INFLUENCE.

HIS PERFORMANCE REFLECTS GREAT CREDIT UPON HIMSELF, THE MCKINNEY POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. SO I'M GOING TO PRESENT HIM WITH THE CHIEF'S CHALLENGE COIN, AND I'D INVITE YOU ALL TO COME DOWN AND TAKE A PICTURE WITH US. WELL DONE.

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SO. AND IT'S JUST NOT IT'S NOT STARTING OUT TO BE A GOOD EVENING. YOU'RE RIGHT, COUNCILMAN BELLER. THANK YOU. SO THE NEXT ITEM WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON A WORK SESSION AGENDA ITEM. OKAY. MR. ARE WE GOOD? AND THE REGULAR MEETING COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS, IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, THEY CAN ASK NOW. OKAY. THAT WAS THE OTHER PART OF IT. OKAY. SO IF YOU'RE HERE ALSO TO DISCUSS ONE OF OUR REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA ITEMS WILL CERTAINLY OPEN TO HEARING YOUR COMMENTS NOW AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL ASK COUNCIL IF THEY HAVE ANY AGENDA ITEM THEY WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS.

[26-0740 Consider/Discuss Presentation on the Preliminary Planning for the North Civic Campus (NCC)]

I JUST WANT TO SAY, I THINK YOU'RE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. STEVE TILTON, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF OUR NORTH CIVIC CAMPUS. FOR THOSE THAT MAY NOT KNOW THAT NAME, IT IS A NEWER NAME FOR THE 110 ACRES THAT THE CITY ACQUIRED FROM THE MISD EARLIER THIS YEAR, LOCATED EAST OF FM 1461 AND NORTH OF BLOOMDALE. SO OUR AGENDA FOR TODAY, A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS. I WILL GO INTO THE FIRST TWO ITEMS THERE, THE BACKGROUND, EXCUSE ME, THE FIRST ITEM, THE BACKGROUND. AND THEN WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN FROM PARK HILL WHO IS THE DESIGN FIRM THAT THE CITY HIRED IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, WHO WILL GO OVER THE HIGH LEVEL CONCEPTS THAT WE HAVE TO DATE AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ON TRACK WITH THE CITY COUNCIL'S EXPECTATION FOR THAT PROPERTY AS WELL. I WILL TALK ABOUT SOME CONTRACTUAL DEADLINES WE HAVE WITH THE AGREEMENT WITH THE M, I, S, D, AND THEN THERE WILL BE A RECOMMENDATION THAT I WILL COVER, AFTER MICHAEL GETS DONE, ON REMOVING A PORTION OF FM 1461 FROM THE STATE SYSTEM. WE THINK THAT FOR BOTH SPEED AND ALSO CONTROL OF HOW THE ADJACENT HIGHWAY IS DEVELOPED, MAKES SOME SENSE TO DO THAT.

THERE ARE SOME PRECEDENT IN THE CITY FOR DOING THAT AS WELL, AND I'LL BE GLAD TO COVER THOSE.

AND THEN WE WILL END WITH GOING OVER A LITTLE BIT OF A SCHEDULE UPDATE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, AS WELL AS OBVIOUSLY, ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE EITHER NOW OR OBVIOUSLY AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. SO HOW DID WE GET HERE? AS THE COUNCIL KNOWS, THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY EARLIER THIS YEAR, STARTING LATE 2025, INTO EARLIER THIS YEAR, FOR THE CITY TO ACQUIRE 110 ACRES FROM THE MCKINNEY, MCKINNEY ISD, THAT ULTIMATELY THE ISD IDENTIFIED AS SOMETHING THAT THEY NO LONGER NEEDED IN THEIR FUTURE PLANNING. AND THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY BECAME EXPENDABLE TO THEM. TREVOR MINYARD, IF HE'S IN THE AUDIENCE OR IN THE BACK, WAS THE PRIMARY NEGOTIATOR. SO CREDIT TO TREVOR FOR THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH MSDMISD. AND OBVIOUSLY THERE IS BENEFIT BOTH TO THE CITY AND THE MISD TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT DEAL HAPPEN.

SO WHAT WAS GOOD FOR THE MISD IN THAT DEAL? I REALLY TWO PRIMARY THINGS. NUMBER ONE MONEY. WE PAID $7.5 MILLION FOR THAT PROPERTY. AND THE OTHER COMPONENT FOR THE MISD IS THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE THE EXISTING APEX CENTER, AS WELL AS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE APEX NORTH. ONE OF THREE MUNICIPAL FACILITIES WILL BE LOCATED ON THAT PROPERTY.

AND VERY SPECIFICALLY, AS THE COUNCIL RECALLS, THE USE OF TEN SWIM LANES THAT THE CITY WILL OWN, OPERATE, MAINTAIN AND STAFF WAS A LARGE BENEFIT TO THE MISD. WHY WAS THE CITY INTERESTED IN THIS PROPERTY? WELL, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, THERE ARE THREE PRIMARY MUNICIPAL USES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED FOR THIS PROPERTY, THE APEX NORTH. AS WE'VE

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CREDIT TO THE STAFF THAT WORK THERE. IT IS A VERY POPULAR FACILITY. AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, THERE IS A NEED FOR THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AND RECREATIONAL USE, NORTH OF THE EXISTING APEX CENTER, THE PUBLIC WORKS, THE NORTHWEST FACILITY IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING IT, KIND OF A, AN AUDIBLE TO THE KNOWN NEED FOR SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR EXISTING SOUTH CAMPUS. THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES WITH THE SOUTH CAMPUS KIND OF REMODEL AND REVISION IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL SPACE THAT WAS NEEDED THERE. AND THEN OPERATIONALLY, AS WE POTENTIALLY TRIED TO LOOK AT, HOW DO YOU MAKE THE NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT CAMPUS AND KEEP PROVIDING THE SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED TO THE COMMUNITY? THERE WERE SOME CHALLENGES THERE. SO THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL, AND EVENTUALLY STAFF WILL BE PROPOSING TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO PHASE THE PUBLIC WORKS COMPONENT OF IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MEETS OUR CAPITAL NEEDS AND REQUIREMENTS. BUT THAT OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY BUILD THERE, PHASE THAT IN AND THEN TRANSFER STAFF OVER AS NEEDED IS AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY. AND THEN LASTLY IS THE CITY CONTINUES TO GROW. THERE HAS LONG BEEN IDENTIFIED NEED FOR ADDITIONAL PUMP STATION OR TAKE POINT, AND ALL THREE OF THOSE USES, WE BELIEVE WILL FIT ON THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL. THE LAST POINT THERE, WHILE THERE ARE NO OTHER KNOWN MUNICIPAL USES IDENTIFIED AT THIS TIME, AS WE CONTINUE ALONG THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS, THAT MAY CHANGE AND WE CAN WE MAY COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR A SMALL COMPONENT OF THAT LAND TO BE USED FOR A DIFFERENT MUNICIPAL USE. SO WHAT ARE THE CITY OBLIGATIONS? WHY ARE WE HERE BEFORE THE COUNCIL TODAY? I REALLY TWOFOLD. NUMBER ONE, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AND AGAIN, TO GAIN SOME CONCURRENCE ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. AND NUMBER TWO, AS THE COUNCIL IS AWARE, THERE ARE SOME DEADLINES AND OBLIGATIONS THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO MEET AS PART OF ITS AGREEMENT WITH THE MISD VERY SPECIFICALLY, AS WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE START, THE CITY WILL BUILD, OPERATE, OWN AND MAINTAIN THAT APEX NORTH FACILITY, THOSE SWIM LANES AS WELL. AND THERE ARE SOME DEADLINES THAT WE NEED TO DO. SO ROUGHLY A YEAR FROM NOW, AUGUST 31ST OF 2027, WE BASICALLY NEED TO HAVE CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN DRAWINGS DONE SO WE CAN GO OUT TO BID FOR THE FACILITY. AND THEN ROUGHLY THREE YEARS FROM NOW, THREE YEARS AFTER THAT, EXCUSE ME, AUGUST 1ST OF 2030, THE BUILDING NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED. SO HAVING THIS PRESENTATION TODAY, HOPEFULLY GAINING THE COUNCIL'S CONCURRENCE, KEEPS US MOVING ALONG THAT TRACK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING THOSE CONTRACTUAL DEADLINES. SO WITH THAT, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER NOW TO MICHAEL HOWARD FROM PARK HILL AGAIN, WHO IS OUR DESIGN ARCHITECTURAL FIRM THAT'S DOING OUR MASTER PLANNING. MR. HOWARD IS A PARTNER AND ALSO THE DIRECTOR OF THE COMMUNITY VISION FOR PARK HILL. HE'S GOING TO GO OVER A COUPLE SLIDES WITH YOU AND THE OVERALL CONCEPT, AND THEN TURN IT BACK OVER TO ME TO CLOSE OUT THE PRESENTATION. MICHAEL, THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH YOU. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN PROGRESS FOR THE PLANNING OF THE SITE. AS IT WAS MENTIONED, WE WERE ENGAGED MONTHS AGO TO ESSENTIALLY ASSIST WITH THE LAND ALLOCATION AND SPACE NEEDS FOR EACH OF THE CIVIC FUNCTIONS ON THIS SITE. SO ONCE WE WORK THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE CIVIC USES, WE DUG INTO A DETAILED ANALYSIS OF FUTURE SPACE NEEDS FOR EACH DEPARTMENT. AND REALLY BY BUILDING THAT EACH DEPARTMENT ANTICIPATES TO CONSTRUCT ON THE SITE, ONCE WE HAVE THE BUILDINGS APPROPRIATELY IDENTIFIED, WE WENT INTO A LAND ALLOCATION PROCESS TO DETERMINE PARKING NEEDS, DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE ACREAGE OF HOW TO DIVIDE UP THE SITE FOR APPROPRIATE USAGE BY EACH OF THE CIVIC FUNCTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE EACH DEPARTMENT HAD ITS OWN NEEDS MET, BUT ALSO THAT THE CAMPUS SERVED AS A UNIFIED CAMPUS FOR CIVIC USE AND COULD USE SHARED OPPORTUNITIES FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND PARKING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THIS IS WHERE WE'VE LANDED. WE CONSIDERED A LOT OF THE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SITE, INCLUDING TOPOGRAPHY, DRAINAGE, NEIGHBORHOOD CONTEXT, TRAIL CONNECTIVITY, ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO INCORPORATE INTO THE FINAL DETAILED DESIGN PLANS. AND SO YOU CAN SEE AT THE NORTH END OF THE SITE, WE DID CARVE OUT AN AREA THAT'S MARKED AS RESERVED FOR JUST FUTURE DEVELOPMENT TO BE DETERMINED BY THE CITY. THAT WAS NOT REQUIRED FOR THE CIVIC USES, OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, PUBLIC WORKS AND THE PUMP STATION, BUT THE PARKS AND RECREATION PORTION OF THE SITE FOR THE FUTURE PLANNED APEX NORTH IS ALLOCATED AT 42 ACRES.

THE PUBLIC WORKS PORTION OF THE SITE IS ALLOCATED AT 39 ACRES AND THEN THE PUMP STATION AT 15.

THERE IS THAT DASHED LINE SECTION THAT YOU CAN SEE. THAT'S A UTILITY EASEMENT THAT IS APPROXIMATELY 13 ACRES, BUT THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE ALLOCATIONS OF EACH ONE OF THE CIVIC USES. YOU'LL BE ABLE TO DEVELOP ON TOP OF THAT EASEMENT, PRIMARILY WITH PARKING AND DRIVES. BUT BECAUSE OF THE UNKNOWN TIMELINE OF CONSTRUCTION OF EACH, CIVIC USE, WE WILL BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT MASTER PLANNING. WHAT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT WILL OCCUR IN THAT

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YOU CAN SEE KIND OF A, A BLUE RECTANGULAR BOX AT THE SOUTHWESTERN CORNER OF THE SITE, WHICH IS THE LOWER LEFT THAT IS, DETENTION DETENTION POND. TO SERVE THE NEEDS OF THE PUBLIC WORKS CAMPUS. THERE ARE ALSO KIND OF NATURAL PONDING AREAS. YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE DIAGRAM THAT WE WILL ALSO MAKE USE OF. AND AGAIN, THAT'S PART OF THE SHARED INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE ANTICIPATE BEING USED ACROSS THE SITE TO TAKE CARE OF DRAINAGE AND STORMWATER DETENTION FOR ALL THREE USES. AND THEN FINALLY, THE PUMP STATION, THE DARK BLUE, CIRCLES ARE THE LARGE STORAGE LORD, EXCUSE ME, THE LARGE STORAGE TANKS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PUMP STATION THAT TAKES UP THE FINAL 15 ACRES. SO YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF THE SITE IS USED. THERE IS SOME WIGGLE ROOM OR SOME FUTURE MASTER PLAN SPACE SPECIFICALLY FOR PARKS. THE DARK GREEN BOX YOU SEE AT THE TOP RIGHT IS REALLY FOR FUTURE MASTER PLANNING OF FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF WHETHER IT'S COURTS, PARK SPACE, PASSIVE ACTIVE RECREATION TO BE DETERMINED. AS THE APEX NORTH DEVELOPS OVER THE NEXT, NEXT FEW YEARS. AND SO, THAT IS, THAT IS ALL I HAVE ON THE CONCEPT DESIGN. SO I'LL TURN IT BACK TO STEVE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. AS I TALKED ABOUT BRIEFLY AT THE START, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MAP UP THERE, THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT IS ADJACENT. IT LIES TO THE EAST OF FM 1461. AND IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE NECESSARY TIMING AND DESIGN CAPABILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT STOP SIGNS RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY IT'S A TWO TWO LANE HIGHWAY. WE WOULD ENVISION IT AS A FOUR LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY WITH PROPER TURN LANES AND SIGNAGE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE DONE BEFORE, WE WOULD PROPOSE AS STAFF THAT THE PORTION OF FM 1461 NORTH OF BLOOMDALE ROAD AND SOUTH OF LOT. HOW COME OFF AND WE PETITION TO THE STATE TO TAKE OVER OWNERSHIP OF THAT PARTICULAR PORTION OF 1461 FOR THE REASONS THAT I TALKED ABOUT PRIMARILY, DEVELOPMENT CONTROL AND TIMING, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ROADWAY CAN BE IMPROVED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT. WE ANTICIPATE APPROXIMATELY $17 MILLION IN ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.

WE DO HAVE THOSE FUNDS BUDGETED IN OUR CIP PLAN. AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE DEPICTION UP THERE, THE CITY ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THIS VERY SIMILAR PROCESS IN 2001 AS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE CITY EXPANDED NORTH OF US 380, WE TOOK THAT PORTION OF NORTH OF 380 SOUTH OF BLOOMDALE OUT OF THE STATE SYSTEM AND TOOK OVER THAT AS WELL. SO THAT IS A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAVE FROM STAFF AS PART OF THE OVERALL PROJECT. THE LAST ONE I WON'T READ YOU. YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY LOOK AT IT, BUT THERE'S REALLY THIS IS THE SCHEDULE FOR WHERE WE SEE THINGS PROGRESSING FOR THE THREE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS, ON THE PROPERTY. THE FIRST TWO, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE APEX NORTH AND THE PUMP STATION HAVE SOME VERY SPECIFIC DATES, AT LEAST TENTATIVELY, THAT WE HAVE TO THEM. OBVIOUSLY THE APEX NORTH, SOME OF THOSE ARE CONTRACTUAL, BUT THOSE ARE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF WHERE WE SEE THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE TIMELINE FOR HOW LONG WE THINK THE PLANNING, THE DESIGN AND PERMITTING AND

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YES, SIR. YES, YES. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. THANKS, STEVE. THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH.

[26-0741 Consider/Discuss the Board and Commission Member Policy and Appointment Procedures]

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ONCE APPOINTED MEMBERS, ALL MEMBERS MUST COMPLETE TRAINING AND OBEY THE LAWS OF THE CITY AS WELL AS THE STATE AND BEYOND. SOME OF THOSE IMPORTANT THINGS ARE OPEN GOVERNMENT AS WELL AS PUBLIC INFORMATION AND THE ETHICS CODE THAT IS ALSO APPLICABLE TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MOST BOARDS, AGAIN, THEY ONLY REQUIRE RESIDENCY AND THE THE ABILITY TO VOTE ON CITY ELECTIONS. BUT SOME BOARDS ALSO REQUIRE SOME RELEVANT PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND. AS FAR AS ATTENDANCE, OUR REGULAR MEMBERS AS WELL AS ALTERNATES ARE EXPECTED TO ATTEND AT LEAST 75% OF ALL MEETINGS. AND THAT IS A REQUIREMENT THAT THE YOU GUYS CONSIDER WHEN MAKING APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS. AND THEN FINALLY, ALL BOARDS MEMBERS ARE ALLOWED TO SERVE AT YOUR DISCRETION, EITHER 2 OR 3 CONSECUTIVE TERMS ON THE SAME BOARD. AND AGAIN, THAT IS AT YOUR DISCRETION AS YOU SEE FIT. AND OF THE BOARDS THAT HAVE THREE TERMS, THESE ARE THE FIVE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING AND ZONING. WE JUST WANTED TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, JUST TAKE A HIGH LEVEL LOOK AT THE BOARD POLICY. YOU CAN DISCUSS ANY ELEMENTS THAT YOU CHOOSE TODAY, AND WE'LL TAKE THAT, RECEIVE THAT INPUT FROM YOU. AS FAR AS THE APPOINTMENTS PROCESS, WE ARE IN IT RIGHT NOW. YOU ALL HAVE COMPLETED FOUR SESSIONS OF INTERVIEWS WITH APPLICANTS. THE NEXT PHASE WILL BE TO CONSIDER PREFERENCES THAT YOU WILL PROVIDE TO THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE ON AUGUST 18TH. THAT IS A NON DECISION MAKING DAY, BUT TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE YOUR LEANINGS ARE IN TERMS OF MAKING APPOINTMENTS, THE ACTUAL APPOINTMENTS WILL BE ON AUGUST 25TH. FROM THERE, NOTIFIED INDIVIDUALS WILL PARTICIPATE IN TRAINING AND INSTALLATION ACTIVITIES THROUGH OCTOBER 1ST, WHICH IS THE FIRST DAY OF THE NEW TERM. AND THEN FROM THERE, YOU GUYS AS A POSITIONS OR VACANCIES BECOME OPEN, WILL APPOINT ADDITIONAL MEMBERS. THAT'S ALL THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE. UNLESS YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR ME ABOUT THE POLICY OR THE PROCESS, THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR ANY OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE POLICY THAT YOU ARE INTERESTED IN DISCUSSING. THANK YOU, MISS DOREEN. MR. MAYOR, I START, I ASKED THIS TO, TO, TO COME FORWARD WITH DOCTOR FELTUS, BUT, KIND OF GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND TO IT BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED. BUT WHEN I GOT ON COUNCIL, DISTRICT ONE HAD ABOUT A 5% REPRESENTATION ON OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. THERE WERE SOME REASONS FOR THAT, BUT, IT'S TAKEN A WHILE TO GET THAT UP. IT'S TAKEN EFFORT AND, I'M STILL WORKING ON THAT FIVE YEARS IN, BUT I, I, I'M SYMPATHETIC TO YOURSELF AND MR. LYNCH AND Y'ALL HAVE PREFERENCES AND PRIORITIES TO, IN APPOINTING PEOPLE TO THESE BOARDS AND, BUT I'M GOING TO FIGHT YOU FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE POSITIONS THAT, I FEEL LIKE I, MY, MY DISTRICT STILL DESERVES, DISTRICT ONE HAS NEVER WANTED SOMEBODY TO EDC DISTRICT ONE HAS NEVER APPOINTED SOMEBODY TO CDC WHILE WE HAVE APPOINTMENTS ON THERE, THEY'VE NEVER BEEN WHILE THEY WERE IN DISTRICT ONE. I MAY I MAY BE WRONG ABOUT DISTRICT ONE BECAUSE ANGIE IS ON THERE. BUT EDC, I'M NOT WRONG ABOUT WE HAVE SOMEBODY IN DISTRICT ONE NOW, BUT THEY WERE ZONED INTO IT. AND SO I'VE GOT TWO, TWO THINGS TO TALK ABOUT. ONE IS CHANGING THE POLICY, TO, TO A, A ONE THAT IS MORE EFFECTIVE, ONE THAT'S MORE EFFECTIVE FOR EACH OF US, ONE THAT'S MORE TIMELY. AND THEN TWO AND SEPARATE FROM THAT IS HOW DO WE TRANSITION TO THAT IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE? AND THE, THE, THE PROCESS I THINK WOULD WORK IS FOR THE BOARDS THAT HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS. WE ALL GET TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY, WE GET TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY WHEN WE'RE ELECTED. WE GET TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY DURING THE TERM IN WHICH WE SERVE, AND WE GET TO DO THAT EVERY YEAR. AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, AND THEN THE COUNCIL WOULD THEN VOTE ON THAT SLATE OF NOMINATIONS. AND IF THERE'S SOMEBODY ON THERE, THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE, THE COUNCIL CAN REJECT THEM. IF NOT, THEN WE ALL HAVE A SLOT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO FILL THAT'S ABLE TO SERVE OUR CONSTITUENCY. AND THAT IS EFFECTIVE DURING OUR TERM. IT ALSO ELIMINATES THE NEED FOR TERM LIMITS. WE HAVE LOTS OF PEOPLE ON OUR BOARDS THAT ARE VERY GOOD AT THE POSITIONS THEY HOLD, AND WE SET TERM LIMITS AND THEN WE IGNORE THEM. AND I'M FINE WITH IGNORING TERM LIMITS. BUT AGAIN, IGNORING TERM LIMITS WHEN IT TAKES UP A SPOT THAT I WANT

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MOST OF THE MEMBERS OF THE CDC HAVE BEEN ON FOR AT LEAST FOUR YEARS, AND THAT IS A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME TO SERVE. AND SO I DO THINK THAT IT'S FAIR TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE GATE NOW AND SAY, HEY, I DO WANT SOME REPRESENTATION, YOU KNOW, MOVING INTO MY SECOND, IT'LL BE MY SECOND YEAR OF, OF THE FOUR YEAR TERM. AND SO IT GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REPRESENTATION TO HAPPEN WITHOUT CONTINUING TO DRAG IT OUT YET ANOTHER YEAR. BUT CERTAINLY OPEN FOR DISCUSSION ON THAT. I DO THINK A PROCESS WHERE, EACH PERSON THAT IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPOINTMENT IS APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL. AND THEN I THINK HAVING AN OPEN SYSTEM THAT WE DO FOR THE OTHER BOARDS FOR THE ALTERNATE IS NOT A BAD IDEA. ONCE AGAIN, YOU KIND OF GIVE SOMEONE A CHANCE TO STEP UP AND SEE HOW THEY, HOW THEY DO IN TERMS OF INTERACTING WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND, AND JUST KIND OF GETTING THEIR FEET WET AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HAVING A STRONG CONSIDERATION FOR PLACEMENT BY A MEMBER OF COUNCIL AT A LATER DATE. BUT THAT'S JUST KIND OF MY VISION. SO, BUT OPEN TO SOME INPUT ON THAT. I'LL JUMP IN REAL QUICK.

YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, ESPECIALLY THE MDC AND THE CDC, WE'VE ALWAYS

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THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO MEET THOSE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS. TO THE QUESTION OF PEOPLE NOT APPLYING, THE COUNCIL DOES HAVE SOME HISTORY OF APPOINTING MEMBERS WHO HAVE NOT APPLIED OR ATTENDED INTERVIEWS. THOSE ARE MINIMAL, BUT THAT IS THERE IS A PRECEDENT THERE. SO AS A PART OF THIS PROCESS THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A CONFLICT WITH THE BEHAVIOR OF THE COUNCIL HISTORICALLY, YOU JUST EXPAND THE DEADLINE FOR THE APPLICATION PROCESS. I MEAN, I'VE SEEN IT IN MY FIVE YEARS. I'VE SEEN IT SEVERAL TIMES, DO NOT HAVE APPLICATION ON FILE.

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OKAY, SO RETROSPECTIVE APPLICATION. OKAY. I MEAN, WE'VE HAD IN MY FIVE YEARS, I'VE SEEN SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT MADE THE DEADLINE WHO HAVE NOT SHOWN UP FOR AN INTERVIEW, BUT GOT A POINT. AND I WILL BE HONEST AND SAY LAST YEAR FOR THE ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD, THAT WAS THE CASE. I RECOMMENDED SOMEBODY COME UP AND PLEASE APPLY BECAUSE THEY WERE HIGHLY QUALIFIED, DEDICATED TO THE MISSION AND I FELT WERE BETTER TO SERVE ON THE BOARD. AND SO THOSE FOLKS GOT APPOINTED TO THE ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD. RIGHT. SO IT'S NOT UNPRECEDENTED FOR US. JUST TO CLARIFY ONE POINT COUNCILMAN JONES MENTIONED, HE SAID EACH MEMBER OF COUNCIL WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT SOMEONE ON A BOARD. TECHNICALLY, EACH COUNCIL CAN NOMINATE A PERSON AND THEN THE SEVEN OF US VOTE, RIGHT? CORRECT. NO ONE'S PUT ON A BOARD WITHOUT CORRECT, WITHOUT A VOTE, WITHOUT THE MOTION. JUST TO CLARIFY. SO IF I PUT SOMEBODY ON THERE THAT ISN'T ELIGIBLE OR NOMINATE SOMEBODY THAT INELIGIBLE, THAT Y'ALL GOT EXPERIENCE WITH, THAT YOU DON'T FIND ACCEPTABLE, YOU CAN, YOU CAN VOTE THEM DOWN. I'LL NOMINATE THE NEXT PERSON. BUT, BUT THAT WAY WE'RE EACH NOMINATING FOR A SLOT. AND AGAIN, I REITERATE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT I MENTIONED AS MUCH, BUT FOR ME, I'VE GOT TWO AND A HALF YEARS LEFT, RIGHT. IS THAT RIGHT? TWO AND A HALF YEARS LEFT. I'M A FIGHT FOR ONE OF THESE SPOTS ON EDC. THAT'S OPEN. IF I APPOINT SOMEBODY, IF SOMEBODY THAT I THINK IS, IS WORTHY GETS APPOINTED TO THAT SPOT, WHAT'S UNFORTUNATE IS IF THEY SERVE THAT SIX YEAR TERM, THEY SERVE IT FOR MY, MY, MY PREDECESSOR OR MY SUCCESSOR, MY PREDECESSOR, THEY SERVE IT FOR THE ENTIRE TERM OF MY SUCCESSOR, NOT FOR ME. AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THIS DOES IS I FILL THE SLOT FOR THE NEXT TWO AND A HALF YEARS. BUT THE PERSON WHO RUNS AND GETS ELECTED AND SHARES PRIORITIES AND WANTS TO, TO, TO MAKE THAT SELECTION GETS TO PUT UP THAT NOMINATION DURING THEIR TERM AND HAVE THAT PERSON BE EFFECTIVE AND REPRESENT THE CONSTITUENCY THAT ELECTED THEM DURING THEIR TERM. BUT HE'D HAVE TO HE'D HAVE TO AGREE TO THAT. RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY. SO EACH PERSON IS SUBJECT TO NOT BEING REAPPOINTED EVERY YEAR. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. I IF I DON'T THINK THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB, I DON'T HAVE TO NOMINATE THEM. AND, BUT IF I, IF I THINK BRIAN MILLER HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB FOR SEVEN YEARS AND I WANT HIM FOR AN EIGHTH RENOMINATE HIM. RIGHT. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW WE EACH GET TO, TO, TO PUT UP THAT NOMINATION. WE GET EACH GET TO, TO HAVE A SAY IN A SLOT THAT THAT KIND OF FOLLOWS US SO THAT IT IS EFFECTIVE FOR US. AND WE GET TO MAKE THE BULK OF, WITH COUNCIL'S OVERALL APPROVAL OF THE DECISION ON WHO THAT IS. WELL, DOCTOR FELTS IS RIGHT.

WHEN YOU SIT IN THESE INTERVIEWS AND YOU LISTEN TO THESE, THESE CITIZENS COME IN AND GIVE A SNIPPET OF WHAT THEY'VE DONE AND WHO THEY ARE. IT'S AMAZING. YOU HAD NO IDEA THESE THE TALENT LIVES IN MCKINNEY. THAT DOES. I LIKE THE IDEA. I'M STRUGGLING WITH THE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS. DO WE DO IT THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR? BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE ON THOSE BOARDS THAT HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF A TWO YEAR TERM. YEAH. NOW ANYONE IS SUBJECT TO BEING REMOVED AT ANY, YOU KNOW, ANNUALLY. ANY TIME ACTUALLY, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S EVER A GOOD TIME TO MAKE THAT TRANSITION BECAUSE EVEN IF YOU WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR, SOMEBODY ELSE IS ALSO MID-TERM. AND SO YOU'RE CONSTANTLY TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, ACCOMMODATE THOSE FOLKS UNTIL THEY WRITE OUT. YET STILL THE WHOLE SIX YEARS. ONCE AGAIN, EVERYONE ON THE EDC HAS BEEN ON THERE FOR FIVE YEARS. THAT'S A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME. WELL, AND, AND, BUT EVERYONE COULD STILL BE REAPPOINTED IF THEY HAD THE SUPPORT OF FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

RIGHT. OKAY. AND I'LL SAY FROM THE STANDPOINT OF, IF YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE PULLING SOMEBODY OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TERM, REAPPOINT THEM, REAPPOINT THEM, LEAVE THEM ON THERE FOR A YEAR. BUT WHAT IT DOES IS THERE, WE ALREADY KNOW THERE'S A VACANCY ON EDC, RIGHT? THAT VACANCY IS APPOINTED THROUGH THIS PROCESS SO THAT THEY KNOW THEIR WE KNOW WHO'S SLOTTED IS WE KNOW WHO'S YOU KNOW, IT'S APPOINTED WITH THE EXPECTATION IT'S RENOMINATED EVERY YEAR. LIKE THERE'S NOT THIS EXPECTANCY OF SO THAT YOU DON'T RE DEAL WITH THIS EVERY YEAR BECAUSE YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO FIND A TIME WHEN, WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE. YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S ALWAYS SOMEONE'S MID TERM NEXT YEAR I'VE GOT TWO AND A HALF LEFT. IT'S ALWAYS SOMEONE'S CORRECT. PATRICK WILL BE WINNING NEXT TIME THAT I'M ALMOST DONE. AND BUT WE ARE AND

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LET'S WRAP UP SOME THINGS, GET THEM THROUGH THE HOLIDAY SEASON. AND THEN STARTING JANUARY 1ST, HAVE KIND OF A REFRESH ON THOSE BOARDS. MY GUESS IS IF YOU DID A DRAFT AND YOU FIGURED OUT WHO WANTS TO KEEP WHO AND WHO DOESN'T WANT TO KEEP WHO, THEN IT'S GOING TO WORK ITSELF OUT.

AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? IF WE WAITED UNTIL JANUARY 1ST ON EDC AND CDC? WELL, THERE'S THERE'S A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO, MAKE SURE WE CLARIFY HERE. ONE, IF WE DID APPOINTMENTS AT THE AT JANUARY 1ST, WOULD THOSE STILL, BE A CALENDAR YEAR APPOINTMENT OR A FISCAL YEAR? IT WOULD STILL HAVE THAT TERM, THE TERMINATION OF SEPTEMBER 30TH MONTHS. OKAY. AND WE WOULD SET THAT REVISITING. BUT THEN ALSO FOR THOSE CURRENT MEMBERS, WHETHER THEIR TERM WOULD HAVE EXPIRED, LET'S SAY IF THEY EXPIRED THIS YEAR IN 2026, WOULD YOU EXTEND THOSE TERMS AS WELL WITHOUT CONSIDERATION? OR WOULD YOU APPOINT SOMEONE FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS UNTIL JANUARY? HOW DO HOW WOULD THE COUNCIL WANT TO HANDLE TERMS THAT ARE EXPIRING IN 2026? I GUESS GIVE THEM EXTRA WHAT, TWO MONTHS, THREE MONTHS? FOUR MONTHS? YEAH, I KNOW, I'LL JUST SAY A FEW THINGS. I DON'T LOVE THIS. I REALLY DON'T, IT SEEMS. BUT I'VE SAID THAT FOR YEARS THAT THERE'S SOMETHING IN MY GUT TELLING ME THAT I NEED TO NOT TRY TO LEAD ON THIS ISSUE. IF WE DO THIS, I FEEL PRETTY STRONGLY WE ONLY DO IT WITH THOSE TWO MONEY BOARDS. I'LL MAKE THE REMARK THAT THERE'S A COUPLE BOARDS IN PARTICULAR ON MY MIND IN THIS CITY, THAT YOU BETTER HAVE PEOPLE WHO REALLY ARE IN THE GAME ON THOSE BOARDS.

AND I'LL SAY P AND Z IS ONE OF THEM. IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT LINE OF WORK. IT MAKES OUR JOB SO MUCH EASIER WHEN WE DO, AND I THINK IT MAKES US A BETTER CITY WHEN WE DO SO. I'M NOT ANXIOUS TO DO THIS WITH P AND Z. I'M ALSO NOT ANXIOUS TO DO IT WITH MAIN STREET. YOU KNOW, THOSE PEOPLE NEED TO BE THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND THE RESIDENTS DOWN THERE. YOU KNOW, ALL THE OTHER BOARDS. I MORE PASSIVE ON, YOU KNOW.

THAT'S THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY. I'LL, I'LL LET Y'ALL LEAD ON THIS. I DON'T LOVE THIS, BUT I ALSO GET THAT I'VE BEEN VERY CALCIFIED ON THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME. AND SOMETHING'S TELLING ME MY GUT MAY BE WRONG ON IT. SO AND THIS IS OBVIOUSLY THIS COUNCIL WOULD BE SETTING SORT OF THIS PRECEDENCE, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE FOREVER. SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A SET IN STONE. I THINK IT'S NICE TO HAVE A TRIAL PERIOD. LET'S TAKE THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO AND SEE HOW THIS WORKS OUT. AND THEN IF IT DOESN'T, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE OPTION TO TO REVERT BACK TO WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. ANYONE ELSE? NOPE. OTHER ARGUMENTS, BOTH WAYS TO START IT NOW OR START IT NEXT YEAR. MR. BELL, I HEAR YOU WHEN YOU SAY YOU GOT TWO AND A HALF YEARS LEFT AND THE LOOK ON YOUR FACE IS LIKE A TEAR IN YOUR EYE. NOT AFTER TONIGHT FOR SURE. I THINK I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND WHAT WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M SAYING WILL END UP IN PRACTICE VERY CLOSELY ALIGNED. BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT A LIST OF EDC AND YOU START SAYING, AND I CAN MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE SPOT THAT MAY BE AN ISSUE. AND THAT PERSON WHO SLOT THAT IS CAN MAKE THE DECISION TO, TO DELAY IT AND SHOW A LITTLE GRACE IN THAT. AND SO I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE THE ISSUE, THE TRANSITION ISSUE THAT, THAT IT'S, IT POTENTIALLY COULD BE, I THINK, BUT WHAT IT DOES DO IS IT MAKES FOR THE, THE VACANCIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO ALREADY START THAT PRACTICE. AND SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE EXPECTED IN THOSE, IN THOSE SLOTS. AND SO WE'RE NOT PUTTING SOMEBODY UP FOR MID-TERM. WE'RE NOT PUTTING SOMEBODY UP FOR A YEAR. WE'RE PUTTING SOMEBODY UP IN THIS PROCESS THAT THEN WE CAN ADD TO IN THE NEXT YEAR IF NECESSARY. SO I WOULD, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, I WOULD I WOULD RATHER GO AHEAD AND DO IT AND NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT WAIT ANOTHER TWO MONTHS AND WE'RE GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY. AND. GO AHEAD. AND SO THE WAITING ON TWO MONTHS PART. WALK US THROUGH THAT AGAIN. MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE MID-TERM WHO HAVE DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS COMING. RIGHT. AND SO WE'RE

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TO ME, THAT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD, ESPECIALLY ON THIS END OF THE TABLE. I MEAN, YOU HAVE ME, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, RICK IS ROLLING OFF. IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, I'M SURE HE WANTS TO SEE WHO HE PICKS GETS TO SERVE FOR A WHILE. I MEAN, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT I YOU KNOW THAT I'LL BE HERE. I HAVE TO RUN AN ELECTION IF I CHOOSE TO RUN. ERNEST IS NEW. I MEAN, I THINK HE GETS THE BENEFIT OF HAVING SOMEBODY THAT YOU ACTUALLY WANT. I MEAN, YOU DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T GET A CHOICE UNTIL UNTIL JUSTIN'S STANDPOINT. I MEAN, YOU WOULDN'T GET A CHOICE UNTIL, LIKE, THE END. MAYBE NOT EVEN THIS FIRST TERM. IF YOU IF YOU KNOW, TO SAY I WANTED SOMEBODY. SO I MEAN, IT'S I'M FIVE AND A HALF YEARS IN. YEAH, YEAH. SO IT'S. SO YEAH, I'M IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT, I THINK YOU JUST RIP THE BAND-AID OFF AND DO IT. YEAH. I DON'T LIKE THE STAGGERED. IF YOU'RE GOING TO IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT, LET'S JUST KEEP EVERYBODY'S TERMS. OKAY. AND THAT'S TOTALLY FINE. CAN I JUST SUGGEST LIKE, LET HIM TRY TO RUN A DRAFT, SO TO SPEAK, AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE? BECAUSE I DO THINK IT LIKE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST PART OF THE ISSUE. SO IS, IS UPSETTING ONE PERSON OR SOMETHING. SO IF WE CAN ALL LOOK AT THE CDC AND CDC ROSTERS AND SAY, THIS IS WHO I WOULD SELECT, TO STAY ON, OR MAYBE THAT'S NOT A PERSON AND THEN SHE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW MANY DOES THAT IMPACT? BECAUSE I'M GUESSING IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A BIG NUMBER. WELL, AGAIN, AND I KEEP HEARING YOU SAY AND COUNCILMAN JONES SAY, WHOEVER GETS SELECTED, THEY HAVE TO BE VOTED ON THE RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. NO ONE IS SELECTED TO SERVE ON. NO. BUT I'M SAYING IS YOU'VE GOT YOU'VE GOT SEVEN PEOPLE ON THERE. I'M GUESSING YOU'LL SELECT SOMEBODY THAT'S ALREADY ON THERE. I MEAN, I CAN MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT WHAT EVERYBODY WILL SELECT. I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK THERE'S THERE'S VERY LITTLE IMPACT IN THE TRANSITION WITH THIS. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG DEAL.

COUNCILMAN BELL, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT THE MEMBERS SUBMIT A HYPOTHETICAL, PERSON THAT THEY WOULD SELECT WILL DRAFT THE LANGUAGE FOR THE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT? YES. AND THEN WE CAN JUST SHOW YOU WHAT THOSE SELECTED HYPOTHETICALS WOULD BE TO SEE WHO HOW MANY WOULD BE REAPPOINTED. RIGHT. AND YOU CAN YOU CAN GAUGE THE IMPACT FOR THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, I DON'T THINK IT'LL BE BIG. AND IF IF THE POLICY WAS APPROVED AND YOU WANTED TO PUT SOMEBODY ON THE SAME PERSON AS ERNEST AND YOU PUT YOUR PERSON ON, THEN HE'D HAVE TO FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO PUT IT IN. YEAH. SO AGAIN, THERE COULD BE SOME OVERLAP, AS YOU SAY. AND, AND Y'ALL CAN FIGURE THAT OUT JUST LIKE OUR PREFERENCES. EXACTLY. IT'S SIMILAR TO THAT. YEAH.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING TO APPROVE THE POLICY. THE 18TH, 18TH. WE COULD EVEN, WE COULD EVEN, I MEAN, CIRCULATE IT. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOTHING. THAT'S A CONFIDENTIAL DEAL. THE, THE GOOD EXAMPLE OF, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU DO THIS IS WHAT WE DID FOR THE WHAT WAS IT THE BUSINESS DEVELOPERS BOARD THAT WE APPOINTED? WE ALL SAT HERE AND KIND OF JUST DID A DRAFT. WE ALL PICKED SOMEBODY. WE ALL GOT REPRESENTATION ON THAT BOARD. I DON'T THINK BECAUSE WE HAVE AN EXISTING POOL, IT'S GOING TO CHANGE THAT OUTCOME THAT MUCH.

BUT I DO WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE ALTERNATE. I MEAN, ARE YOU ALL OKAY KIND OF LEAVING IT AS A DRAFT LIKE WE DO WITH THE OTHER BOARDS, OR WOULD WE? WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE CHALLENGE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IF YOU'RE AN ALTERNATE, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO SERVE FOR A WHILE, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO GO ON THE BOARD.

HAVING US ALL PICKED. AND ONE OF US WOULD HAVE TO PICK THAT PERSON TO BE ON THE BOARD. YEAH.

I THINK THE WITH AN ALTERNATE, YOU'VE GOT THE EXPERIENCE AS YOU GO THROUGH THE TERM. SO IF IF IF IT IS THE MAYOR GETS TO APPOINT AN ALTERNATE TO EACH BOARD, THEY'RE THERE TO MAKE DECISIONS AND CAN STEP IN. BUT WHEN A PERSON VACATES A SEAT OR COUNCIL CHANGES OVER IN A NEW NOMINATION IS MADE, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT PERSON WHO WOULD FILL THAT VACANCY. AND SO AS LONG AS THEY KNOW THAT GOING IN, THEY NEED TO KNOW. YEAH. YEAH. BUT I MEAN, YOU WOULD

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RIGHT. JUST TO PUT THEM UP THERE. BUT IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. I DON'T HAVE A STRONG INTEREST. WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US? YOU NEED NODDING OF HEADS OR OR NOSE OR WHAT DO YOU NEED? JUST TO KIND OF SET THE TABLE FOR AUGUST 25TH FOR EDC AND CDC, WE'RE LOOKING AT A PROCESS OF IMPLEMENTING THIS PROCESS WHERE EACH COUNCIL MEMBER MAKES NOMINATIONS, AND YOU ALL STILL VOTE ON THOSE COLLECTIVELY, AND THOSE APPOINTMENTS WOULD TAKE EFFECT JANUARY 1ST. ALL CURRENT MEMBERS, WHETHER THEY'RE EXPIRING IN 2026 OR 2027, THEY WOULD EXPIRE THOSE TERMS ON DECEMBER 31ST UNLESS REAPPOINTED TO CONTINUE IN JANUARY 1ST. AS FAR AS BRINGING AMENDMENTS TO THIS POLICY, WE WOULD NEED TO DO THAT IN SPECIAL SESSION AHEAD OF OUR WORK SESSION ON THE 18TH. JUST TO PUT THIS IN PLACE, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PREFERENCING POLICY THAT FOLLOWS THIS DIRECTION. ARE WE ON BOARD WITH THE JANUARY 1ST, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT? I HEARD TWO DIFFERENT VERSIONS I HEARD. GO AHEAD AND START THE TERMS IN OCTOBER. YEAH. WHEN THE OTHERS START. YEAH. YEAH. SO SO START IN OCTOBER 1ST. GET IT ALL. WE'RE LOOKING AT JANUARY. OKAY. NEXT JANUARY I THINK IT WOULD BE IN OCTOBER 1ST VERSUS VERSUS JANUARY. OKAY. TO ME. YEAH. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BRING A HABITAT. YEAH. OKAY. WE'LL SOLICIT SOME HYPOTHETICAL APPOINTMENTS SO THAT THE COUNCIL CAN SEE HOW IT WOULD PLAY OUT. AND IF YOU COULD JUST QUICKLY EMAIL ALL OF US THE CURRENT. I MEAN, I THINK WE KNOW THE CDC AND CDC, BUT THE TERMS THAT WE HAVE, IT'S ALL IN OUR PREFERENCE BOOKS. NOW, THE PREFERENCE PUT UP EVERY MEETING. YEAH. WE'LL PROBABLY REPAINT THAT PICTURE A LITTLE BIT BETTER TO KIND OF INCORPORATES OUR CONVERSATION TODAY. YES.

MR. HAUSER SAID TO KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT THAT HYPOTHETICAL PROCESS WOULD BE. OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE OF MISS DOREEN? NO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BELLER. DOCTOR.

THANK YOU. THIS HAS BEEN ON YOUR AGENDA FOR A LONG TIME. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY.

MOVING ON. COUNCIL LIAISON UPDATES. ALL RIGHT. MR. HAUSER, WE DO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION,

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

WILL WE HAVE ANY ACTION? YES, SIR. WE WILL. WE WILL HAVE ACTION COMING OUT.

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