* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. TUESDAY, [00:00:02] SEPTEMBER THE EIGHTH. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2026, THE COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU CCD BEFORE YOU HAVE BEEN APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL. WE SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL. SOME ITEMS HEARD TONIGHT WILL BE HEARD ONLY BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND OTHERS WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT. I WILL ADVISE YOU IF AN ITEM THAT'S BEING HEARD WILL GO ON TO COUNCIL OR IF IT WILL ONLY BE HEARD BY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. NOW, IF YOU ARE HERE TONIGHT AND YOU WISH TO SPEAK REGARDING ANY ITEM, KINDLY COMPLETE A YELLOW SPEAKER CARD AND TURN IT INTO A CITY STAFF METER STAFF MEMBER PRIOR TO THE AGENDA ITEM BEING CALLED. WHEN IT IS YOUR TURN TO SPEAK, KINDLY STATE YOUR FIRST AND YOUR LAST NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AND WE KINDLY ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR REMARKS TO THREE MINUTES. YOU MAY ONLY SPEAK ONE TIME ON EACH AGENDA ITEM, THE COMMISSIONER'S REQUEST REQUEST THAT WE ALL TREAT EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT, THAT WE'RE CONCISE IN OUR COMMENTS AND THAT WE FOCUS ON THE ISSUE. I WOULD LIKE TO STRESS TO EACH OF YOU THAT YOUR OPINION IS IMPORTANT TO US, AND YOUR COMMENTS DO BECOME PART OF THE CITY'S PUBLIC RECORD. WE ALL WANT TO ACT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITIZENS OF MCKINNEY AT THIS TIME. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE NON-PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA ITEMS? OKAY. [CONSENT ITEMS] WE'LL NOW MOVE TO THE CONSENT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. SO THIS INCLUDES ITEM TWO SIX DASH 0 8 4 9 MINUTES OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, REGULAR MEETING OF AUGUST 25TH, 2026. DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT ITEMS? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS, UH, PRESENTED. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HAMMOCK TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. I SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KASEM. KINDLY CAST YOUR VOTES AND THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. SEVEN TO ZERO. [26-0014SUP2 Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit Request to Allow for Fuel Sales, Passenger Vehicles (7-Eleven), Located on the Northeast Corner of Wilmeth Road and Taylor-Burk Drive] WE'LL NOW MOVE TO THE REGULAR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. SO ITEM TWO SIX DASH 0 0 1 4 SUP TWO. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACT ON A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST TO ALLOW FOR FUEL SALES. PASSENGER VEHICLES SEVEN 11 LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF WILMOTH ROAD AND TAYLOR BURKE DRIVE. MS. EO, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. EO PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. UM, AS PER THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE ITEM BE THE PUBLIC, EXCUSE ME, PUBLIC HEARING BE CLOSED AND THE ITEM BE TABLED INDEFINITELY. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. EO? WHAT IS THE REASONING FOR THE, UH, FOR THE TABLING? I'M GONNA DEFER TO THE APPLICANT. OKAY. NO. IS THE APPLICANT HERE THIS EVENING? I DON'T SEE HIM HERE. OKAY. , I APOLOGIZE. OKAY. UM, IT WAS AT THEIR REQUEST. UM, THERE WASN'T A SPECIFIC, UH, I KNOW THEY ARE TRYING TO LOOK AT THEIR INFORMATION, BUT AS MUCH AS, UM, THEIR SPECIFIC REASON, UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR MS. EO? OKAY, THANK YOU. SO IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT OUR APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING, BUT I WANT JUST TO CALL ONE MORE TIME. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? OKAY. THIS ITEM, IT HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED THAT THIS ITEM BE TABLED INDEFINITELY. UH, THIS ITEM, HOWEVER, DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. SO IF YOU ARE HERE, IF YOU MADE THE EFFORT TO COME OUT THIS EVENING, WE'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS. SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS REGARDING THIS ITEM, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS BEEN TABLED, IT'S GONNA BE TABLED INDEFINITELY. KINDLY TAKE THIS TIME AND APPROACH AND AGAIN, KINDLY STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. HI, I'M MICHAEL WELCH. UH, AND I'M AT, UH, 3 7 5 8 RYLAND COVE. AND I'M PROBABLY GONNA ASK THIS QUESTION ON BEHALF OF ALL MY NEIGHBORS. UM, WE DON'T UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT INDEFINITE HOLD MEANS. UH, SO MAYBE IS THIS SOMETHING THAT COULD SNEAK UP ON US AND, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN REAR ITS HEAD AND WE AREN'T LOOKING? UH, WILL THERE BE ANOTHER POSTING? UH, JUST MAYBE YOU COULD KIND OF HELP, HELP US UNDERSTAND IS THIS, HAS THIS GONE, OBVIOUSLY HASN'T GONE AWAY FOREVER, THAT COULD COME BACK, BUT MAYBE YOU COULD EXPLAIN TO US WHAT, WHAT THIS MEANS. [00:05:01] SO TYPICALLY WE'RE NOT IN THE HABIT OF ANSWERING QUESTIONS, HOWEVER, I FEEL LIKE YOUR CONCERN IS VALID. SO HISTORICALLY, IF THERE'S AN ITEM THAT GETS TABLED INDEFINITELY MM-HMM . WE AT THIS POINT DO NOT KNOW WHEN THAT ITEM MIGHT COME BACK BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING. OKAY. HOWEVER, IT AND KATE, CORRECT ME IF I, IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE PROPER NOTICING CHANNELS AS IT DID THE FIRST TIME. OKAY. AND THEN, OKAY. SO WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE WHITE SIGNS. AND THEN, SO I DID WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING. SO THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT THAT'S BEING REQUESTED IS DUE TO, THAT'S THE, UH, INVOICE OR THE PUBLIC NOTICE Y'ALL ALL RECEIVED MM-HMM . THAT WAS DUE TO THE DISTANCE TO THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MM-HMM . AND SO THAT IS WHY WE WERE ALL NOTICED. THAT IS WHY WE ARE ALL HERE. IF THEY COME BACK WITH THEIR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, THEN THEY WILL NOTIFY Y'ALL AGAIN. YOU'LL GET THE POSTCARDS, THE SIGNS WILL GO UP, ALL OF THOSE ITEMS. SO I DO WANNA BE CLEAR THAT IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE SITE, HOWEVER, IF IT CHANGES TO A DIFFERENT USE OR IF THEY'RE ABLE TO COMPLY OUTSIDE OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS, THERE MAY NOT BE ANOTHER NOTIFICATION. OKAY. AND SO, SO YOU WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT'S THAT? SO SHE, THEY WOULDN'T KNOW IF THERE WERE SOME MODIFICATIONS THAT QUALIFIED? IT DEPENDS. IF THEY ARE GOING TO, IF THE SITE IS ABLE TO MEET WITHOUT A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, THEN WE WOULD NOT NOTIFY AT THAT POINT. OKAY. OKAY. IT WOULD, IT WOULD MEET ALL OF THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS AS AS THE ZONING IS WRITTEN, CORRECT? CORRECT. CORRECT. IF THE, I IF THE SITE IS ABLE TO MEET THE ZONING CRITERIA AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, THEN THERE WOULD, UH, BE NO NEED FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND THEN THERE WOULD BE NO NOTIFICATION NOTIFICATIONS HAPPEN FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMITS, CHANGES IN ZONING OR IF THERE'S A DESIGN EXCEPTION WHERE THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR, UH, A MODIFICATION TO THEIR SITE. OKAY. SO THEY COULD TECHNICALLY MOVE THEIR PUMPS 250 FEET AWAY AND MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AND MOVE FORWARD. IF THEY MET THE REQUIREMENTS, THEN IT WOULD NOT REQUIRE THE SPECIFIC USE. WELL, I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO ASK QUESTIONS OUT OF, OUT OF ORDER. UM, AND, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. IF YOU'RE HERE THIS EVENING AND YOU WISH TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, KINDLY APPROACH. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DAWN BILLINGS. I AM HERE AGAIN. I WAS HERE LAST TIME. I LIVE AT 3 6 0 9 ROTH DRIVE IN THE IRWIN FARM SUBDIVISION, WHICH BACKS UP DIRECTLY TO THIS PROPOSED SITE. ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE THAT I DID DISCUSS LAST TIME WAS THE NUMBER OF GAS STATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THIS AREA. THE CLOSEST ONE WE DROVE IT. UM, AI WAS OFF A LITTLE BIT. IT LISTED IT AS OVER A MILE. IT'S ACTUALLY NINE TENTHS OF A MILE FROM THIS GAS STATION. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO NEED FOR THIS IN OUR AREA. ANOTHER ITEM I WOULD LIKE NOTED FOR THE RECORD IS THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION HAS A SLIDE THAT ONLY SHOWS TWO OTHER GAS STATIONS. THAT TO ME IS VERY MISLEADING, UM, TO THE COMMISSION. AND I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AS WELL AS IF THIS DOES COME UP AGAIN AND YOU DON'T HAVE A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE BECAUSE WE JUST SIMPLY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT, THAT YOU WOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL OF OUR OPPOSITION. I DON'T CARE IF IT'S 500 FEET AWAY FROM THE HOMES, WE DON'T WANT THIS AND WE DON'T NEED IT, AND WE'RE ASK IF IT EVER COMES UP AGAIN IN THE FUTURE THAT EACH OF YOU WOULD OPPOSE IT. THANK YOU. DAWN? YES. MOST PLATS ARE APPROVED AT STAFF LEVEL. ONLY SPECIAL ONES COME TO US. OKAY. WELL, WHATEVER INFLUENCE YOU HAVE WITH STAFF LEVEL AND YOU WITH YOUR APPLICANT, I WOULD JUST LET IT BE KNOWN THAT WE DON'T NEED IT AND NOBODY WANTS IT. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW WE MAY NOT SEE IT. OKAY. WELL, IT'S CONCERNING THAT YOU DON'T EVEN SEE IT. THE RESIDENTS DON'T SEE IT, AND THESE THINGS JUST POP UP THAT NOBODY HAS ANY INTEREST IN AND NOBODY WANTS KIND OF SEEMS TO BE STARTING A PATTERN HERE AND NOT SOMETHING THAT, UM, THE RESIDENTS APPRECIATE. SO I'D JUST LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. BILLINGS. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. IF YOU'RE HERE THIS EVENING AND YOU WISH TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, KINDLY APPROACH, PLEASE STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. GOOD EVENING. I'M BRUCE BILLINGS AND I LIVE AT 3 6 0 9 ROTH DRIVE IN IRWIN FARMS. LESS THAN 2000 FEET FROM THE PROPOSED 24 HOUR SEVEN 11 AT WILMUTH AND TAYLOR BOOK. ONE IMPORTANT POINT FROM THE LAST MEETING DESERVES MORE EMPHASIS, AND I THINK MY WIFE JUST STATED IT, BUT I WANT TO GO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER. WITHIN A THREE MILE RADIUS OF THIS PROPOSED SEVEN 11, THERE ARE ALREADY [00:10:01] EIGHT FUEL STATIONS WITH APPROXIMATELY 120 GAS PUMPS. IN MY EIGHT YEARS LIVING IN MCKINNEY, I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYONE SAY WE NEED MORE GAS STATIONS, ESPECIALLY IN THE PAINTED TREE IN IRWIN FARMS AREA. THERE'S ALREADY A 24 HOUR SEVEN 11 AT WILMUTH AND NORTH LAKE FOREST, LESS THAN A MILE AWAY. AND AT YOUR LAST MEETING ON AUGUST 26TH, YOU APPROVED ANOTHER SEVEN 11 AT NORTH HARDEN AND BLOOM DALE. WE ALL KNOW BUCKY'S IS ALSO LESS THAN FIVE MILES AWAY WITH APPROXIMATELY 80 FUEL PUMPS. SO I HAVE A SIMPLE QUESTION. WHAT PROBLEM ARE WE TRYING TO SOLVE BY PUTTING IN ANOTHER 24 HOUR SEVEN 11 AT WILMOTH AND TAYLOR BOOK? THERE IS NO SUPPLY IN DEMAND ISSUE. THERE IS ALREADY PLENTY OF SUPPLY FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE NEARBY. THIS ISN'T HYPOTHETICAL. THESE ARE REAL IMPACTS WE WILL LIVE WITH EVERY DAY. INCREASED TRAFFIC, BRIGHT, 24 HOUR LIGHTING SHINING INTO OUR BACKYARDS, DELIVERY TRUCKS, EXCESS NOISE, INCREASED CRIME, RODENTS, AND THE IMPACT ON OUR PROPERTY VALUES. THIS ISN'T SIMPLY ANOTHER BUSINESS ON A MAP. THIS IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS, THESE ARE OUR HOMES. SO I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU, PUT YOURSELF IN MY SHOES, WHICH MIGHT BE A LITTLE HARD FOR SOME OF YOU TO DO BECAUSE IT APPEARS NONE OF YOU ON THE COMMISSION LIVE WITHIN 2000 FEET OF AN EXISTING GAS STATION. AND ACCORDING TO MY CITY RECORDS, THIS COMMISSION IS ONLY DENIED ONE PROJECT IN 2026. SO IF THIS COMES BACK UP AGAIN AND YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO VOTE ON IT, PLEASE MAKE THIS PROJECT YOUR SECOND DENIAL. WE WANT MCKINNEY TO REMAIN UNIQUE BY NATURE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY RESIDENTS ARE STARTING TO CALL IT UNIQUE BY CEMENT. SO PLEASE LISTEN TO ALL THE RESIDENTS TONIGHT ABOUT THIS PROJECT, AND IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE, LET'S JUST KILL THIS PROJECT AND VOTE NO. AND WE DON'T NEED THIS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. BILLINGS. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A KINDLY HOLD YOUR PODS. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. IF YOU'RE HERE THIS EVENING AND YOU WISH TO SPEAK REGARDING THIS ITEM, KINDLY APPROACH. GOOD. EVERYONE. UM, MY NAME IS SURYA. MY ADDRESS IS 3 2 0 4 4 MILLION STREET, MCKINNEY, TEXAS. IT'S LITERALLY WITHIN 250 UH, METERS FOOT. UH, WITH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. I RESPECTFULLY, UM, WANT TO BE CLEAR. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THIS LOCATION. I EXPECT THE AREA TO DEVELOP AND COMMERCIALLY, UH, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT CAN BE VALUABLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. MY CONCERN IS THAT THIS PARTICULAR USE CASE, THIS CLOSE TO OUR HOMES, THE CITY MATERIALS SHOWS THAT THE PROPOSED FUEL PUMPS APPROXIMATELY 2 22 27 TO 2 33 FEET FROM THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THIS PROXIMITY IS WHY THIS PROPOSAL REQUIRES A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AS SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY LIVES WITHIN THE 250 FOOT AREA. THIS ISN'T AN ABSTRACT PLANNING ISSUE FOR ME. A FUEL STATION MEANS CONTINUOUS VEHICLE TURNOVER, CAR CENTERING AND EXITING AND, AND MAKING TURNS THROUGHOUT THE DAY IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE GROWING RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. I UNDERSTAND THAT ROADS AND HOA COMMON AREAS HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED AS PROVIDING ADDITIONAL SEPARATION, BUT THOSE AREN'T EMPTY SPACES TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE. THOSE ARE THE SIDEWALKS, ENTRANCES, AND COMMON AREAS THAT OUR FAMILIES AND CHILDREN ACTUALLY USE. WE'RE NOT ASKING THIS PROPERTY TO REMAIN UNDEVELOPED. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER A FUEL STATION DESERVES AN EXCEPTION TO THIS NORMAL SEPARATION STANDARD WHEN OTHER COMMERCIAL USERS COULD SERVE THIS PROPERTY WITHOUT THE SAME IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. AS A HOMEOWNER WITHIN THE 250 SQUARE FOOT, I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS PARTICULAR USE CASE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS OR THAT IT IMPACTS HAVING ADEQUATELY MITIGATED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. KALIN. DDY, IF YOU'RE HERE THIS EVENING, THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. WELL, THAT, THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. THAT'S WHY I'M THAT WAS YOUR UNDERSTANDING. OF COURSE. YOU, YOU CANCELED IT. SO I MEAN, IT'S INDEFINITELY POSTPONED. SO, I'M SORRY, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR SHARING. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT, SO IF YOU ARE HERE THIS EVENING, KINDLY APPROACH STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME FOR US. YEAH, WILL CHRISTENSEN, I LIVE AT 36 16 WARDSWORTH ROAD. UM, MAN, I HAD A WHOLE THING PREPARED TONIGHT, YOU GUYS, AND IT GETTING TABLED. I, UH, I, I, I HONESTLY, I'M, I'M TRYING TO THINK THROUGH, UH, YOU KNOW, BEST NEXT STEPS AND, AND ALL I CAN SAY IS, YOU KNOW, IF THIS DOES COME BACK IN FRONT OF YOU OR STAFF, IF THIS COMES BACK IN FRONT OF YOU, I JUST, I ASK THAT YOU EVALUATE IT AGAINST THE [00:15:01] NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND REALLY IF IT WILL MAKE A DETRIMENTAL IMPACT ON OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. I TRULY THINK THAT WE'VE MADE A CASE THAT IT WILL, IT'S NOT NEEDED. ON TOP OF THAT, IT IS A SAFETY CONCERN. WE HAVE NOW THAT INTERSECTION OF WILMUTH AND TAYLOR BURKE HAS ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A HAZARDOUS CROSSING FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN BY MCKINNEY, ISD. ON TOP OF THAT, THERE IS, IT'S A REALLY SMALL ROUNDABOUT, IF ANY OF YOU HAVE DRIVEN THAT JUST DOWN THE ROAD AT, UH, LAKE FOREST AND, UH, WILMOTH. IT IS A LARGER ROUNDABOUT. THERE'S A SEVEN 11 RIGHT ON THE CORNER. AND I HAVE PERSONALLY DRIVEN THAT ROUNDABOUT ENTERING THE ROUNDABOUT WITH THE INTENT TO GET OUT, HURRY AND GET OVER AND GET INTO THE GAS STATION AND HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC. I'VE HAD TO GO THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT, GO DOWN THE ROAD, MAKE A U-TURN, COME BACK TO THE ROUNDABOUT AND TRY AGAIN. PUTTING A GAS STATION ON THE CORNER OF A SMALLER ROUNDABOUT AT AN INTERSECTION THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DEEMED AS A HAZARDOUS CROSSING WOULD COMPOUND THE SAFETY ISSUE THAT ALREADY EXISTS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. THAT'S AS WELL AS IT'S, I I THINK THE GENTLEMAN SAID IT WELL. LIKE THERE IS TRULY NO NEED. TAYLOR BURKE IS NOT A MAIN THOROUGHFARE, RIGHT? LIKE LAKE FOREST HARDEN, THOSE ROADS GO FROM NORTH TO SOUTH ALL THE WAY THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY. TAYLOR BURKE IS A SMALL ROAD THAT MEANDERS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, PUTTING A GAS STATION ON THIS CORNER DOESN'T MEET SOME UNMET GAP FOR COMMUTERS THAT ARE TRYING TO GET SOMEWHERE. SO I JUST ASK THAT YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. AND LASTLY, WHILE MIGHT, WHILE EVERYBODY MIGHT NOT COME UP TO THE MIC TONIGHT, AND THAT'S, THAT'S OKAY, I THINK WE CAN ALL SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S 30 OR 40, MAYBE NOT THAT MANY, OKAY, 20 OR 30 PEOPLE HERE. BUT EACH PERSON REPRESENTS A FAMILY. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN 50 PLUS COMMENTS SENT IN. I FEEL FIRMLY CONFIDENT THAT THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, WITHIN THIS DIRECT VICINITY THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PROJECT. AND AGAIN, WHETHER IT COMES BEFORE YOU OR NOT, WHETHER YOU EVALUATE IT OR NOT, I JUST ASK THAT YOU KEEP THAT ALL IN MIND. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU MR. CHRISTENSEN. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. SO IF YOU'RE HERE THIS EVENING AND YOU WISH TO SPEAK, SHARE YOUR COMMENTS OR CONCERNS REGARDING THIS ITEM. KINDLY APPROACH. HELLO? HELLO? HELLO? UH, MY NAME IS MARCUS HARVEY. I LIVE AT 3,900 CATHEDRAL LANE. UM, I'M RETIRED AIR FORCE 20 YEARS. JUST PURCHASED A HOME ON CATHEDRAL ABOUT IN NOVEMBER. UM, WHEN I CONSIDERED PURCHASING HOME, I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS GONNA BE A GAS STATION RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE. IF I LOOK IN MY OUT MY BACK WINDOW, I CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE LANE WHERE THE GAS STATION'S GOING TO BE. UM, I HAVE A, A 2-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER. I HAVE A 4-YEAR-OLD SON AND I HAVE A 72-YEAR-OLD DISABLED CHILD WITH, UM, CEREBRAL PALSY. UM, I JUST, I'M AGAINST IT A HUNDRED PERCENT. YOU KNOW, I, I GET GAS. I NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WHERE I RAN OUTTA GAS. WE GOT GAS STATIONS EVERYWHERE. I'M FROM CALIFORNIA ORIGINALLY, RIGHT? I RAN FROM CALIFORNIA TO GET AWAY FROM GAS STATIONS EVERYWHERE, , YOU KNOW, AND NOW IT'S LIKE, IT, IT FOLLOWED ME, YOU KNOW? SO IF, IF, I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO REALLY CONSIDER THAT. UM, IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LIVED THERE, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL LOOKING OUT YOUR BACK WINDOW? SEEING THE GAS STATION, ESSENTIALLY. I WORKED IN THESE NUCLEAR MISSILES AND I USED TO BE COVERING IN FUEL ALL THE TIME. AND NOW I'M ABOUT TO BE LIKE, IT'S FOLLOWING ME, ESSENTIALLY. YOU KNOW, THAT'S PTSD RIGHT THERE. JUST FOLLOWING ME, YOU KNOW, IN MY HEAD, NOT REALLY, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET PTSD FROM GAS STATIONS. THE FUMES THE CAR. I THINK, OH, WE SUPPOSED TO BE GOING FORWARD, LIKE ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I THINK WE, MOVING FORWARD, WE FEEL LIKE WE MOVING BACKWARDS WITH GAS STATIONS. UM, BUT THAT'S IT. I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW I'M AGAINST IT A HUNDRED PERCENT AND JUST TAKE MY WORD OF CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU MR. HARVEY. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. IF YOU'RE HERE THIS EVENING AND YOU WISH TO SHARE YOUR COMMENTS OR CONCERNS KINDLY APPROACH, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF INDIVIDUALS WHO HAD SIGNED UP. UH, THERE WE GO. KYLIE, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. SUE SILVER IN IRWIN FARMS. NOT QUITE AS CLOSE, BUT CERTAINLY WALKING DISTANCE TO THIS NOW TABLED. UM, SEVEN 11. UM, I'M ALSO A LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA REFUGEE . SO WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT GAS STATIONS. UM, YOU KNOW, CONVENIENCE STORES LIKE SEVEN 11, UH, ARE MAGNETS FOR CRIME. Y'ALL [00:20:01] PROBABLY KNOW THAT. UM, BUT DO YOU KNOW THAT CONVENIENCE STORES ARE THE FOURTH MOST LIKELY LOCATION FOR VIOLENT CRIME? UM, ONE ON AUGUST 29TH, SURVEILLANCE VIDEO CAPTURED THREE 13 GIRLS WHO WERE BEAU BRUTALLY ATTACKED BY ROBBERY SUSPECTS WHILE SHOPPING AT A SEVEN 11 STORE IN CALIFORNIA. OKAY, IT WAS CALIFORNIA, BUT IT CAN HAPPEN HERE IN TEXAS. AND IF YOU'RE WONDERING HOW MANY ROBBERIES GO UNSOLVED, IT'S AN ASTOUNDING 70%. WE DON'T NEED OR WANT THIS HERE IN MCKINNEY. I THINK WE CAN ALL, ALL OF US HERE AGREE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. SILVER. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. IF YOU'RE HERE THIS EVENING AND YOU WISH TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, KINDLY APPROACH. HELLO, KINDLY STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, UH, DON SILVER IRWIN FARMS. THERE'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERN HERE. WHENEVER YOU HAVE GAS STATIONS, THERE'S THE POTENTIAL FOR LEAKAGE. I'VE SEEN THAT THROUGH THE YEARS THAT COULD DESTROY THE PROPERTY VALUES 'CAUSE THE PROPERTY OWNERS MIGHT BE FORCED TO DO REMEDIATION OF DAMAGE FROM LEAK, GASOLINE. SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER WHEN YOU VIEW THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. SILVER. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. IF YOU'RE HERE THIS EVENING AND YOU WISH TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, KINDLY APPROACH. KINDLY STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. YEAH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS SUSAN AND I ELEVATE 3 2 0 8 VER MILION STREET, WHICH IS LIKE JUST NEAR TWO 50 FEET ZONE FROM THE, UH, PROPOSED PROJECT. AND, UH, YEAH, SO AS I SAID, LIKE OUR HOME IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND THAT IS WITHIN THE TWO 50 FEET ZONE. AND THIS PROJECT WOULD DIRECTLY AFFECT MY FAMILY AND OUR HOME. SO MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS MY CHILD'S HEALTH SAFETY AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE. I HAVE A TODDLER AT HOME AND I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING A GAS STATION AND MORE TRAFFIC SO CLOSE TO A HOME. SO I SAID LIKE THERE ARE ALREADY NEARBY GAS STATIONS, INCLUDING ANOTHER SEVEN 11 NEAR WMH ROAD AND THE LAKE FOREST AND THE QUICK TRIP ON THE VMH ROAD. AND ALSO WE HAVE THE COSTCO WITHIN A MILE. SO AS A PARENT AND A NEARBY HOMEOWNER, I'M SIMPLY ASKING THE CITY TO PUT THE HEALTH, SAFETY, AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE FAMILIES WHO ALREADY LIVE HERE FIRST. AND PLEASE CONSIDER THE FAMILIES AND CHILDREN WHO WILL BE DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO I REQUEST YOU TO PLEASE CANCEL THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. JAGGER RA. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. IF YOU ARE HERE THIS EVENING AND YOU WISH TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS KINDLY APPROACH. AGAIN, IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE WHO WISHES TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED. KINDLY APPROACH, MADAM CHAIR. OKAY. UH, BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CAN WE GET ARI BACK UP FOR A QUESTION? SURE. THANK YOU ARI. MM-HMM . SO IS THIS, UH, BEING WITHDRAWN 'CAUSE THEY'RE REDESIGNING IT OR THEY'RE TERMINATING IT OR? SO, UH, ALL I KNOW IS THAT THE APPLICANT'S ASKED TO TABLE THE ITEM TO GIVE MORE TIME. UM, DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME, IF THE APPLICANT MAYBE REDESIGNS THEIR, UH, LAYOUT, IT MAY NOT COME BACK. IF THEY MEET ALL THE CRITERIA, UM, IF THEY ARE COMING BACK, WE WILL RE-NOTICE IF THEY'RE NOT MEETING THEIR CRITERIA BECAUSE THEY WOULD TRIGGER THE REQUIREMENT FOR AN SUP, WE WOULD PRESENT THAT BEFORE YOU. SO AT THIS TIME, THE APPLICANT'S JUST REQUESTING MORE TIME. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT DIRECTION THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. SO CAN THEY MEET CRITERIA AND STILL HAVE GAS PUMPS AND STAFF APPROVE IT BASED ON THE ZONING? UM, IT'S, THE USE IS ALLOWED IF THEY MEET THE CRITERIA. AND THE CRITERIA IS NO MORE THAN TWO GAS STATIONS AT AN INTERSECTION, UM, 250 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL USER ZONING. AND THEN, UH, WITH IT BEING, UH, C THE UNDERLYING C TWO LOCAL COMMERCIAL, IT REQUIRES AT LEAST A, A MAX OF, UH, 12 PUMP STATIONS. SO THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD MAKE SURE TO MEET THOSE CRITERIA, THEN THEY COULD POTENTIALLY BE APPROVED AT THE STAFF LEVEL. OKAY. THANK YOU ARI. MM-HMM . YOU'RE WELCOME. WHEN WAS THIS ZONING ESTABLISHED? DO YOU KNOW THE C TWO ON THIS CORNER? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. . UM, I KNOW IT'S A PD. UM, SO IT'S A LITTLE OLDER. OKAY. UM, I, I CAN'T, I DON'T WANNA SAY A WRONG YEAR, I'M NOT SURE, BUT IT'S A LITTLE OLDER IN TIME. OKAY. MM-HMM . SO ARI, WHAT WOULD BE SOME OF THE OTHER USES FOR THAT FIRST, UH, C TWO? IT COULD BE ANYTHING FROM RESTAURANT RETAIL. UM, SO THOSE ARE USUALLY THE PRIMARY USES THAT WE SEE MORE COMMONLY IN THOSE CORNERS. UM, I DON'T HAVE MY LIST WITH ME, BUT IT MOSTLY COMMERCIAL FOR THAT, FOR THAT INTERSECTION OR THAT CORNER, [00:25:01] THAT AREA. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. WOULD THE FAST, FAST FOOD BE ALLOWED BY ON A C TWO OR, I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE ALLOWED WITH CRITERIA FOR THE, FOR THE SPEAKER BOX. THE SPEAKER BOX ALSO WOULD TRIGGER AN SUP IF THEY'RE LESS THAN TWO 50 FROM RESIDENTIAL USERS. ZONING DISTRICT AS WELL A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. ARE WE, ARE WE REQUIRED TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO SHOW PROOF OF E-E-H-S-S, WHICH IS ENVIRONMENT HEALTH AND SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR THE SITE OR NOT? WE WOULDN'T REQUIRE THAT. UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, THE SUP, IF WE GET TO THE SITE PLAN AND SHOULD, YOU KNOW, OUR ENG ENGINEERING COUNTERPARTS OR ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES WOULD REQUIRE THAT, THAT MIGHT BE A REQUEST. BUT I'M NOT AWARE THAT THERE'S ANYTHING BEING REQUESTED AT THIS TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER HAMMOCK MM-HMM . IT WAS ZONED BACK IN 2005 FOR COMMERCIAL USES. SO PRIOR TO PAINT THE TREE AND IRWIN FARMS AND ALL, IT WAS ALL PART OF THAT MASTER PLAN AREA. GOTCHA. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. I GUESS I HAVE ONE QUESTION. CAN YOU, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE 250 FOOT, UH, REQUIREMENT? SURE. IN OTHER WORDS, THE, THE, THE SOURCE OF THAT, UM, THAT REQUIREMENT? SO I KNOW THAT WAS A, UH, UPDATE IN THE CODE. I THINK IT WAS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN AFTER 2022. UM, AND THERE WAS A DISTANCE THAT WAS, UH, PROVIDED FOR, UH, GAS STATIONS. UM, TYPICALLY THOSE ARE FROM THE PUMPS TO THE, UH, WHETHER IT'S RESIDENTIAL USE OR ZONING DISTRICT. MM-HMM . IN THIS CASE IT WOULD BE TO THE, UM, USE, UM, 'CAUSE IT'S, THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS BEYOND THE 250 FEET. THERE'S ABOUT 14 ACRES, UM, THE PROPERTY'S TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST. UH, AT THE CURRENT LAYOUT THAT IT'S IN THE AGENDA, IT'S SHOWING ABOUT ROUGHLY 226 BECAUSE WE'RE INCLUDING THE COMMON AREAS, PART OF THE ZONING. RIGHT. AND THE USE. RIGHT? MM-HMM . OKAY. THANKS. MM-HMM . ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR MS. EO? THANK YOU. OR SALLY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ONE LAST, UH, CALL. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. IF YOU'RE HERE THIS EVENING AND YOU WISH TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS REGARDING THIS ITEM, KINDLY APPROACH. PREVIOUS SPEAKER. MM-HMM . YOU ARE. OKAY. SO WE'LL, WE'LL GET THAT CORRECTED. THANK YOU. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? THIS ITEM HAS, IT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED. IT ITEM BE TABLED INDEFINITELY. AND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION COMMISSIONERS. I'LL MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, AND TABLE THE ITEM INDEFINITELY. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR BUTNER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE THE ITEM INDEFINITELY. I'LL SECOND IT. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LEBO. KINDLY CAST YOUR VOTE. OKAY. SO THIS MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY TO TABLE THE ITEM INDEFINITELY ENCLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SEVEN TO ZERO. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, WE MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING MATTERS. NOT ON THE AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING MATTERS? NOT ON THE AGENDA. LAST MEETING. DO THE COMMISSIONER STAFF [COMMISSION AND STAFF COMMENTS] HAVE ANY COMMENTS, UM, FROM STAFF? SO, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER RE BUTNER WILL NOT BE HERE AT HIS LAST MEETING, UH, LATER THIS MONTH, BUT STAFF WANTED TO JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR, YOUR TIME AND BEING PART OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING. I KNOW THAT IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT AND WE REALLY HAVE APPRECIATED WORKING WITH YOU AS STAFF. IT THANK YOU. IT, IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS AND, UM, IT'S BEEN A GOOD FIVE YEARS AND I'VE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT HOW THE CITY WORKS AND I APPRECIATE BEING PART OF IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? A DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I'LL MOVE TO ADJOURN. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LIBO. I SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CASIM. FINALLY CAST YOUR VOTES. IT IS UNANIMOUS. UH, SEVEN TO ZERO. WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 6:29 PM. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.