[26-0008SUP Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit Request for Restaurant, Drive-Through (Burger King, Popeyes, and Taco Bueno), Located on the South Side of University Drive and Approximately 280 Feet West of Aviation Way (REQUEST TO BE TABLED)]

NOW IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA. THE FIRST ITEM IS ITEM 26-0008SUP. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACT ON A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR RESTAURANT DRIVE THROUGH BURGER KING, POPEYES, AND TACO BUENO. LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF UNIVERSITY DRIVE AND APPROXIMATELY 280FT WEST OF AVIATION WAY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. ALWAYS LOVELY TO SAY THAT, AS ALWAYS. AND GOOD EVENING, COMMISSION DESTINY REYNOLDS, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. FILLING IN FOR EMILY BELL ON THIS ONE TONIGHT. THIS ONE SHOULD BE FAIRLY EASY. THEY ARE REQUESTING OR STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING BE CONTINUED AND THE ITEM TABLE TO THE OCTOBER 27TH

[00:05:03]

PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DUE TO A NOTIFICATION SIGNPOSTING ERROR FROM THE APPLICANT AND I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MISS REYNOLDS. THE APPLICANT. COME THIS EVENING. I DON'T BELIEVE SO, SINCE IT WAS JUST THEY'RE BEING TABLED TO THE NEXT MEETING, SO I DON'T BELIEVE SO. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR MISS REYNOLDS? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED THAT ITEM 26-0008SUP BE TABLED AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLING THE ITEM UNTIL THE OCTOBER 27TH, 2026 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. FIRST, THIS SORRY, THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. IF YOU ARE HERE THIS EVENING AND YOU WISH TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS REGARDING THIS ITEM, KINDLY APPROACH. OKAY. SEEING IS THERE NONE? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL OCTOBER 27TH, 2026. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR CRAIG SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONRAD. KINDLY CAST YOUR VOTE. OKAY. THAT MOTION CARRIES. SO THIS ITEM WILL REAPPEAR ON THE OCTOBER 27TH, 2026 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. NEXT

[21-0009SP2 Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Design Exception for a Site Plan for a Restaurant, Brew Pub and Commercial Entertainment, Outdoor (Tupps Brewery), Located at 402 East Louisiana Street]

ITEM ON THE AGENDA. ITEM 21-0009SP2. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS ACT ON THE DESIGN EXCEPTION FOR A SITE PLAN FOR A RESTAURANT, BREW, PUB AND COMMERCIAL ENTERTAINMENT. OUTDOOR TUBS BREWERY LOCATED AT 402 EAST LOUISIANA STREET, MISS ROBINSON.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSION CHAIR ROBINSON, DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT PLANNER. THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS FOR A DESIGN EXCEPTION FOR A RESTAURANT, BREW, PUB AND COMMERCIAL ENTERTAINMENT.

OUTDOOR TUBS BREWERY AT 42 EAST LOUISIANA STREET. TYPICALLY, SITE PLANS CAN BE APPROVED AT THE STAFF LEVEL. HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A DESIGN EXCEPTION WHICH REQUIRES CONSIDERATION BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL. THE RESTAURANT, BREW, PUB AND COMMERCIAL ENTERTAINMENT OUTDOOR IS ON APPROXIMATELY 3.906 ACRES, AND THEY REQUESTED AN EXCEPTION TO PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE SCREENING DEVICE ALONG THE SOUTHEASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY. SPECIFICALLY, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO MAINTAIN THE EXISTING SIX FOOT STACKED CONCRETE BLOCK WALL AND TO ENHANCE THE EIGHT FOOT LIVING SCREENING BY ADDING ADDITIONAL EVERGREEN SHRUBS ALONG THE SOUTHEASTERN BOUNDARY. THIS REQUEST IS PROMPTED DUE TO THE APPLICANT PLACING FILL INSIDE THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SCREENING DEVICE, WHICH HAS RENDERED ITS HEIGHT INADEQUATE TO SERVE THE INTENDED SCREENING PURPOSE. THE DESIGN EXCEPTION WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO THE SECTION OF THE CONCRETE SCREENING WALL THAT IS ADJACENT TO THE NEW SOCCER FIELD. SORRY. WHICH CREATED THE NONCOMPLIANCE.

THOUGH THIS APPROACH PROVIDES THE INTENDED OPACITY AND SCREENING ALONG THE PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY SOUTHEASTERN BOUNDARY. STAFF FINDS THAT IT IS NOT FULLY MITIGATE CONCERNS REGARDING NOISE AND VISIBILITY. IN ADDITION TO THE STANDARD SCREENING REQUIREMENTS, THIS DEVELOPMENT ALSO HAS THE SUPPLEMENTAL REQUIREMENTS OF S, U, P, OR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021 07075, WHICH REQUIRES AN ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING DEVICE CONSISTING OF A COMBINATION OF SIX FOOT METAL FENCING AND A 7.5 CONCRETE BLOCK WALL ALONG PORTIONS OF ANDREW'S AND GREEN STREET. STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE PROPOSED SCREENING DEVICE DOES NOT MAINTAIN THE INTENT OF THE SCREENING REQUIREMENT, NOR DOES IT ADEQUATELY MEET THE ADDITIONAL STANDARDS DISCUSSED IN THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. AS SUCH, STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE REQUESTED DESIGN EXCEPTION. I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MISS ROBINSON. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES. COULD YOU PLEASE ELABORATE AND REPEAT ON THE EXISTING ISSUE THAT HAS CAUSED THE NONCOMPLIANCE? YES.

SO I'LL DRAW FOR Y'ALL IN THIS CORNER OF THE PROPERTY, THEY'VE INSTALLED A THREE FOOT FILL WHICH HAS INCREASED THE GRADE OF THE PROPERTY. THE CURRENT SCREENING DEVICE IS SITTING IS SIX FOOT CONCRETE BLOCKS WITH SOME LIVING SCREENING. AND SO THEY'RE PROPOSING TO INCREASE THE LIVING SCREENING AS THEIR NEW SCREENING DEVICE. BECAUSE THE FILL HAS INCREASED THE GRADE OF THE PROPERTY OF THAT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. STAFF DOES NOT FIND THAT THE EXISTING SCREENING DEVICE, WITH THE ADDITIONAL PROPOSED SCREENING, DOESN'T MEET THE MEET. WHAT WE

[00:10:02]

THINK IS THE INTENT OF THE SCREENING DEVICE. SO TO CLARIFY THE THE EXISTING CONCRETE WALL THAT WAS SIX FEET IN HEIGHT IS NOW THREE FEET IN HEIGHT. YES, BY THE INCREASED HEIGHT. AND THEY'RE PROPOSING EXACTLY PLANTING ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING TO PROVIDE THAT LIVING SCREENING. IS THAT LANDSCAPING INTENDED TO BE ON THE THREE FOOT SIDE OF THE WALL OR THE OUTSIDE OF THE WALL WHERE IT'S SIX FOOT TO GRADE TO LOOK TO THE SITE PLAN. IT HAS IT PROPOSED ON THE INSIDE OF THE SCREENING WALL. THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S ON THE OUTSIDE ACTUALLY. SORRY, IT'S ON THAT SIDE. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. AND SO FORGIVE ME.

MAYBE I'M. I'M A LITTLE SLOW HERE ON THIS ONE. WHAT IS THE RELEVANCE OF THE FILL AS IT PERTAINS. I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF THEY HADN'T DONE ANYTHING, IF THEY HADN'T ADDED ANY FILL, WHAT WOULD THAT CHANGE AS IT PERTAINS TO THEIR OBLIGATION OR RESPONSIBILITIES NOW? YES. SO BEFORE THE FILL WAS THERE, THAT WALL WAS AT THE ADEQUATE HEIGHT APPROVED THROUGH THE SUP. IT WAS AT THE 7.5FT. ONCE THEY ADDED THAT FILL. NOW I'M BASICALLY I'M STANDING TO WHERE THAT FENCE, INSTEAD OF BEING ABOVE MY HEAD, IS AT MY CHEST OR BELOW. GOTCHA.

AND SO FOR ALL THE NOISE, ANYTHING COMING OFF OF THAT SOCCER FIELD, THAT SCREENING WALL IS NO LONGER PROVIDING THE VISUAL OR SOUND BUFFER. THAT WAS THE INTENTION OF IT BEING PUT THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO THE REASON STAFF IS, IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL IS THAT THAT'S U. P WAS APPROVED SPECIFICALLY WITH THAT COMBINATION OF MATERIALS AND DEVICES. AND SO THE STAFF PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT THAT A RETAINING WALL, IF THAT'S WHAT'S ACTUALLY NEEDED TO HOLD UP THAT FILL BE ENGINEERED, DESIGNED, CONSTRUCTED AND THEN THE APPROPRIATE SCREENING DEVICE BE PLACED ON TOP OF THAT. OR IF THOSE CONCRETE BLOCKS ARE SUFFICIENT AND AN ENGINEER CAN SHOW THAT, THEN THEY NEED TO EITHER ADD CONCRETE BLOCKS TO MEET THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE APPROVED SCREENING DEVICE. SO JUST TO GIVE MORE CONTEXT ON WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM, OUR RECOMMENDATION MAKES SENSE. HOW ABOUT WOOD FENCING ON TOP OF THE EXISTING BLOCKS? I READ AND UNDERSTAND THAT SHRUB, THAT ADDITIONAL GREEN SCREEN IS IS INSUFFICIENT. BUT I SEE AN ENGINEER LETTER, A SUGGESTION OF SOME WOOD FENCING OR SOME METAL STUD SIGNAGE. YEAH, PRACTICALLY. I DON'T THINK THAT WOOD FENCING WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN THAT CONFIGURATION. IF IF YOU'VE BEEN OVER THERE AND KIND OF SEE WHERE HOW THOSE CONCRETE BLOCKS ARE. I DON'T I THINK IT'D BE A DIFFICULT CONSTRUCTION TYPE. SO FROM THE STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, WE, WE REALLY WANT IT TO MAINTAIN THAT EXISTING SCREENING DEVICE AS, AS APPROVED ON THE PREVIOUS SUP. YEAH. I DROVE BY THERE ON THE WAY OVER HERE TONIGHT. AND THERE WAS SOME PEOPLE OUT ON THE SOCCER FIELD AND YOU COULD SEE THEM PRETTY MUCH FROM WAIST UP PRETTY EASILY. AND THESE WEREN'T THESE WERE, YOU KNOW, YOUNG, YOUNG PEOPLE. SO THEY WEREN'T REAL, REAL TALL. SO COULD EASILY SEE WHERE SOCCER BALLS WOULD GO OVER THE, OVER THE. AND SO JUST TO CLARIFY, STAFF IS NOT IN ANY WAY DENYING THE THE PLAN AS A WHOLE OR THE CONCEPT OF THE PROJECT. IT'S SPECIFICALLY AS IT PERTAINS TO THIS. WALL OR SCREENING DEVICE OR WHATEVER. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. WE WERE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT PRIOR TO THE INSTALLATION. I THINK JUST TIMING WISE, THEY OBVIOUSLY WANTED TO GET THAT INSTALLED PRIOR TO GOING THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE PROCESSES. AND SO TO YOUR POINT, WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT THE SOCCER FIELD HAS TO COME OUT. WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT THE APPROVED SCREENING DEVICE NEEDS TO TO MEET THE INTENT THAT WAS APPROVED BEFORE THAT GRADE HEIGHT WAS RAISED. MAKES SENSE. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, MISS ROBINSON? HAS THE APPLICANT, YES, WILLING TO WORK WITH STAFF REGARDING POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVES? AT THIS POINT? WE WE TOLD THEM THAT WE'D BE RECOMMENDING DENIAL, THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO SEE THE EXISTING SCREENING DEVICE, BUT TOLD THEM THAT THEIR OFF RAMP PER SE WOULD BE TO COME AND REQUEST THAT YOU ALL CONSIDER THEIR THEIR DESIGN EXCEPTION. OKAY. IS THE APPLICANT HERE THIS EVENING? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. MY NAME IS KEITH LEWIS, OWNER, FOUNDER OF TUBS. I THINK THE TO ME, I THINK THE ISSUE REALLY IS VISUAL AND THAT WE GOT TO SOMEHOW KEEP PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THAT SIDE OF THE RETAINING WALL OR SCREENING WALL FROM SEEING

[00:15:07]

PEOPLE ON THE SOCCER FIELD, I GUESS. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE LET THE BUSHES GROW UP TWO FEET. THERE ARE VERY LARGE BUSHES ALREADY ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE WALL. THAT WAS NOT VIEWED AS A POTENTIAL SOLUTION. THE POTENTIAL SOLUTION, I GUESS, WAS THAT WE ADD ONE MORE BLOCK.

AND THEN WHEN WE HAD THE CITY OUT, THEY SAID, NO, YOU HAVE TO ADD TWO MORE BLOCKS. WE'VE HAD A THIRD VISIT BY THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER BASICALLY SAYING, DON'T EVEN PUT ONE MORE BLOCK ON IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT SAFE, LET ALONE TWO. SO OUR POSITION IS LET'S LET THESE BUSHES GROW UP TODAY. WE TRIM THOSE EXACTLY OFF AT THE TOP OF THE BLOCKS FROM A LANDSCAPING PERSPECTIVE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US MOVE UP ANOTHER COUPLE FEET. THAT WAY IT WOULD YOU KNOW, YOU WOULDN'T REALLY SEE ANYBODY ON THE SOCCER FIELD AND WOULD MAINTAIN THAT SIX FOOT LEVEL.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO. IF THERE ARE OTHER SOLUTIONS. THAT WE WOULD CERTAINLY LOVE TO LOOK AT THOSE. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME WE'VE ASKED, IT'S MORE OF YOU GOT TO PUT THESE BLOCKS ON THERE. SO IF THERE IS WOULD LIKE THE STRUCTURAL GUY SAID, IF THERE IS METAL, SOMETHING WE CERTAINLY WOULD WOULD DO THAT. IT'S JUST WE'RE KIND OF AT A STANDSTILL RIGHT NOW. IT SEEMS. SO WE DO HAVE ON THE ON THE SOUTH END OF THE PROPERTY.

THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT TO SCREEN EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAD BACK THERE A CHILLER, SOME GRAIN SILOS, AND THAT WAS A METAL MESH FENCE WITH BUSHES ON THE OUTSIDE OF IT. SO WE DID THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A SOLUTION. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, BUT RIGHT NOW WE JUST NEED SOME CREATIVE THOUGHT AND COMING UP WITH A SOLUTION. AND FOR NOW, THOUGH, WE'RE NOT TRIMMING THE BUSHES, WE'RE KEEPING THEM. YOU KNOW, WE'RE THEY'LL GROW REALLY, REALLY TALL. SO DO YOU GET THE FEELING YOU COULD GET SOMEWHERE WITH SOME ADDITIONAL ENGAGEMENT WITH THE CITY STAFF, MAYBE COME TO SOMETHING THAT THEY MIGHT AGREE WITH OR, OR ON THE ALTERNATIVE, YOU FEEL THAT MIGHT BE EXHAUSTED. YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE COMING UP WITH SOME IDEAS HERE. I JUST WONDER IF THOSE HAVE BEEN THOROUGHLY ADDRESSED WITH STAFF.

NO, I THINK I THINK FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE IS WE CAME UP WITH A SOLUTION, LETTING THE BUSHES GROW. AND THAT WAS DENIED. SO HERE WE ARE. IF WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, WE'RE CERTAINLY WILLING TO DO THAT. BUT I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW IN ORDER TO PROPOSE A SOLUTION IS WHAT ARE SOME MATERIALS? IS WOULD ONE WE'VE HEARD KNOW IS METAL ONE WE'VE HEARD NO. SO ONLY THESE 2,000 POUND BLOCKS WHICH ARE NOT SAFE. SO I THINK WE HAVE TO COME TOGETHER ON SOMETHING, AN EASY SOLUTION. AND THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE IS LET THE BUSHES GROW. WE ALREADY HAVE THE WALL. YOU KNOW, THE BLOCK WALL ON THE INSIDE OF THE PROPERTY. BUT IF WE NEED TO MAYBE TAKE A PAGE OUT OF THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE WITH THE METAL THAT WE CAN PUT THERE, AND THEN LET THE BUSHES GROW UP. BUT WHAT WE'VE HEARD SO FAR IS WE WANT CONCRETE BLOCKS. HOW OFTEN ARE SOCCER BALLS GOING OVER ONTO GREEN STREET AND OR ANDREW STREET ON ANDREW'S? ALMOST NEVER, WHICH IS WHERE THE SCREENING ISSUE IS ON GREEN TOO MANY TIMES. SO THERE ARE THERE ARE MULTIPLE PEOPLE THAT PLAY OUT THERE, KIDS. THEY DON'T GO OVER. THERE'S AN OVER 50 LEAGUE BALLS DON'T GO OVER. IT'S THE COMPETITIVE LEAGUES THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT THEY SAIL THESE BALLS. SO THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS WITH THE PEOPLE THAT RUN THE LEAGUES. THE CHUPACABRA TEAM IS RUNNING THE LEAGUE, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, A RETRACTABLE SCREEN THAT CAN GO UP AND COME BACK DOWN. IN FACT, I MEET WITH THEM TOMORROW AND I BASICALLY TELL THEM, YOU GUYS GOT TO FIGURE THIS OUT. SO WAS THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS ONLY CONCERN ADDING LOAD ON TOP OF THE WALL? THEY WEREN'T CONCERNED WITH THE LOAD THAT WAS ADDED WITH THE FILL THAT WAS PLACED BEARING ON THE SIDE OF THE WALL. IT'S JUST THAT HE WAS CONCERNED THAT THE BLOCKS, IF YOU STACK TWO MORE UP, IT'S A TILT FACTOR. IT'S JUST TOO HIGH. IT'S THE DEAD LOAD OF THE WALL BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE FOUNDATION FOR IT WAS INSTALLED PREVIOUSLY. MOST LIKELY, YES. SO IN THE

[00:20:03]

BEGINNING WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE ANYTHING IN THE PLANS BACK THERE. IT WASN'T REALLY TO SCREEN ANYTHING. IT WAS. AND THEN WHEN WE FOUND OUT WE COULD GET THE BLOCKS FROM BIG BASS TOWING AND ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY BASICALLY SOLD THOSE TO US, I GUESS. SO THEY'RE MORE DECORATIVE THAN ANYTHING ELSE AT THIS POINT. I THINK THEY LOOK COOL, BUT IS THERE A WAY TO INSTALL A PLANNER OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE MORE LANDSCAPE ORIENTED OR ARTISTIC, ON TOP OF THAT WALL? THAT'S NOT AS HEAVY AS THOSE CONCRETE BLOCKS. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT'S BEEN EVALUATED OR EXPLORED. THAT HAS NOT BEEN EXPLORED. BUT YEAH, WE COULD PUT PLANTERS UP THERE, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE IT KIND OF A BARRIER. UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK WHEN THE BUSHES GROW, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE IT. BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF ALTERNATIVE THINGS YOU COULD USE AS OPPOSED TO ANOTHER 2,000 POUND BLOCK THAT MIGHT CREATE THAT ADDITIONAL HEIGHT BUFFER YOU NEED AND NOT BE WOOD OR METAL FENCING NECESSARILY. THAT KIND OF MEETS THE UNDERLYING INTENT AND THE MEET IN THE MIDDLE SITUATION WITH THE CITY. AND IT'S JUST THAT EASTERN SECTION THERE BY THE SOCCER FIELD, NOT THE SOUTH SECTION. THAT'S WE NEED THE THE VARIANCE FOR IT, RIGHT? THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE THAT THE FILL DIRT. OKAY. RAISED IT UP. YEAH.

DOWN THERE. BUT I MEAN ANDREW SIDE THE ANDREW SIDE, NOT THE GREEN STREET SIDE, NOT THE GREEN STREET. YEAH. OKAY. IS THE RETRACTABLE FENCING SOMETHING THAT NOT RETRACTABLE FENCING, RETRACTABLE NETTING, SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A, BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. I MEAN, IS THE ISSUE THAT WE ARE SEEING SOCCER PLAYERS OUT THERE OR IS THE ISSUE THAT LINE OF SIGHT FOR VISIBILITY AND SOUND AS OPPOSED TO SOCCER BALLS GOING SOUND? YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. AND IN PRACTICE, THEY'VE ADDED AN OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT USE.

WHICH SOCCER THEY DIDN'T HAVE BY CREATING THE SOCCER FIELD BECAUSE IT WASN'T THERE PREVIOUSLY. SO IF THERE WASN'T ALREADY A PERMITTED OUTDOOR CONCERT VENUE, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ANOTHER CONVERSATION WE HAD WAS THAT IT'S KIND OF A CHANGE IN THE USE, BUT WE FELT LIKE AN ADDITIONAL SUP FOR THE USE WAS NOT NECESSARY. THAT'S WHERE FROM THE CITY SIDE, WE FELT LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH TOPS ON SAYING THAT. OKAY, WELL, WE'LL SAY THAT'S A CONTINUATION OF THE SUP YOU HAVE FOR OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT, BUT WE WANT YOU TO COME UP TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON THE SITE PLAN. YOU KNOW, QUITE FRANKLY, THE THE ISSUE IS IT'S A SELF-INFLICTED WOUND, REALLY ADDING PHIL ON THAT EXISTING RETAINING WALL, I THINK THE OR IT WAS NOT A RETAINING WALL, BUT IT'S BEEN TURNED INTO ONE BY PUTTING FILL UP AGAINST IT. I THINK THE CITY'S NUMBER ONE CHOICE WOULD BE FOR A PROPER RETAINING WALL TO BE DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED, THAT THOSE EXISTING SCREENING BLOCKS COULD BE PUT ON TOP OF. UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S COST. THERE'S THERE'S COST IMPLICATIONS THERE. BUT AGAIN, THIS WAS THIS WAS A PROJECT THAT YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, WENT OUT AND, AND DID WITHOUT HAVING THE PROPER APPROVALS IN ADVANCE. WELL, I WOULD, I WOULD DISAGREE WITH THAT. OKAY. SO LET ME JUST CHRONOLOGICALLY LET YOU KNOW, ON APRIL 8TH, WE WENT TO MC DC FOR APPROVAL. SO EVERY TIME WE DO ANYTHING ON THE SITE, WE HAVE TO ASK THEM FOR APPROVAL.

SO WE GOT THEIR APPROVAL ON THE 28TH. ON THE 29TH, WE ADD IT TO THE SITE PLAN. ON THE 14TH, WE APPLIED FOR A PERMIT FOR COMMERCIAL ALTERATION. WE WERE TOLD BY MATTHEW HARVICK IT WAS NOT NEEDED. ON JUNE 15TH, THE SOCCER FIELD WAS COMPLETED. AFTER THE SOCCER FIELD WAS COMPLETED. THEN WE STARTED GETTING INPUT FROM THE CITY THAT I COULD SEE PEOPLE'S HEADS ON THE OTHER SIDE. AND SO I, I MEAN, I FEEL THAT WE WENT THROUGH EVERY STEP THAT WE NEEDED TO GO THROUGH. AND NOW HERE WE ARE GOING BACK AND APPLYING FOR PERMITS AND SPENDING MONEY WITH STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS. AND THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER SAYS THAT THAT WALL FOR THE FILL DIRT FROM A RETAINING STANDPOINT IS FINE. IT'S JUST YOU CAN'T STACK MORE BLOCKS ON TOP OF IT BECAUSE IT'LL FALL. IT COULD POTENTIALLY FALL OVER. NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE SOIL LOAD BEARING ON IT. HE'S WORRIED ABOUT THE RIGHT THE TIPPING OVER, I WOULD THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF A SOLUTION. IT'S PLANTERS. IT'S A LITTLE WOOD FENCE, A DECORATIVE FENCE. ACROSS THE TOP OF IT WAS WOOD OR METAL. WE WOULD BE WILLING TO DO ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. BUT RIGHT NOW ALL WE'RE HEARING IS I WANT MORE BLOCKS, THE BUSHES THAT Y'ALL ARE ALLOWING TO GROW UP, ARE THEY GOING TO FORM A LIKE A SOLID SCREEN? IS IT INDIVIDUAL TREES? WHAT CAN YOU GIVE ME? I DIDN'T NOTICE

[00:25:05]

THEM WHEN I DROVE BY. YEAH. SO THE THE BUSHES, I'VE GOT PICTURES HERE THAT I CAN, YOU KNOW, SEND AROUND, BUT THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT KIND OF BUSHES IN THE ON THAT WALL. TWO ARE VERY GOOD, MEANING THAT THEY'RE BIG, THEY'RE FAT AND THEY GROW FAST. THERE'S A THIRD STYLE OF BUSH THAT'S NOT THAT GREAT. AND THEY HAVE NOT GROWN MUCH. SO AS PART OF THIS, TO LET THE BUSHES GROW, I THINK WE WOULD NEED TO REPLACE ALL THAT ONE THAT'S NOT GROWING VERY FAST AND PUT ONE IN THAT GROWS UP HIGH. BUT IN THE LAST MONTH AND A HALF, WE HAVE NOT TRIMMED THE BUSHES AND YOU'LL SEE THEM NOW, PROBABLY A FOOT, FOOT AND A HALF OVER THE BLOCKS. SO AS THEY GROW UP, WE'LL SKIN THE TOP OF THEM. THEY'LL BE UP THE TWO FEET THAT YOU NEED. AND THESE BUSHES ARE PROBABLY 4 TO 5FT ROUND, SO THEY'RE THICK. I THINK THEY ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL.

AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT MORE BUSHES IN. BUT THAT'S A LOT BETTER THAN SOME OF THE OTHER ALTERNATIVES. AND I, I PERSONALLY, I MEAN, THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER IS SAYING I'M NOT SIGNING OFF ON THAT. SO IT'S LIKE THEN I DON'T THINK ANYBODY SHOULD. SO IS YOUR STRUCTURAL ENGINEER HERE WITH YOU THIS EVENING BY ANY CHANCE? OKAY. NO, BUT WE HAVE IN THE SUBMITTAL WE HAVE HIS LETTER WHICH BASICALLY SAYS, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THERE'S SOME PICTURES IN THERE THAT SHOW THE BUSHES. AND YOU CAN SEE NOW WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE PICTURES, THEY'RE SKINNED OFF RIGHT AT THE TOP OF THE WALL. SO WAS THE NEED FOR THE AMOUNT OF FILL JUST DUE TO LEVELING OUT THAT AREA FOR THE SOCCER? I HAVEN'T BEEN OVER THERE SINCE THE SOCCER FIELD WAS COMPLETED. SO YEAH, IT TAPERED FROM THE FROM THE, THE BREWERY BUILDING DOWN TO THE WALL. IT HAD A PRETTY GOOD FALL. SO YOU HAD SO IT'S THREE FEET ON THE EDGE CLOSEST TO THE WALL, WHEREAS THE MOST FILL WAS PLACED TO FLATTEN IT. CORRECT. OKAY. CORRECT. AND IT'S 60FT. NO, IT'S 100FT LONG. SO THERE'S 100FT. WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT 60FT WIDE. YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY LETTING THE BUSHES GROW UP ON THAT PART, PUTTING A METAL WALL UP THERE LIKE WE DID IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING. BUT IT'S ONLY FOR THAT 60FT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS. IT SOUND SOUNDS TO ME LIKE A PRETTY UNIQUE SITUATION, JUST EVEN FROM THE CHRONOLOGICAL PERSPECTIVE THAT YOU LAID OUT HERE A FEW MINUTES AGO, COUPLED WITH THE FACT THAT THERE'S ALL ALREADY THESE MASSIVE CONCRETE, I WENT ONLINE AND KIND OF LOOKED ON GOOGLE MAPS. I WANTED TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS OUT THERE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYTHING'S BEEN EXHAUSTED AND, AND EVERYTHING'S BEEN EXHAUSTED, BUT I WOULD I'D REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD WITH THE CITY, MAYBE GET SOME FURTHER CLARIFICATION ON DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES THAT THEY WOULD SUPPORT AND GET BEHIND, BECAUSE JUST SEEMS LIKE A GREAT USE. AND I MEAN, A GREAT ADDITIONAL AMENITY TO WHAT IS ALREADY A VERY UNIQUE AND AWESOME CONTRIBUTION OR COMPONENT TO THE CITY AS A WHOLE. SO THAT'S JUST MY $0.02. THIS IS A VERY SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC USE PERMIT THAT 2021, RIGHT? THESE STONES ARE SPECIFIC AND THE, THE, THE ORDINANCE ITSELF SAYS GENERALLY AS SET FORTH ON EXHIBIT B, AND THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE THAT WALL IS. THERE'S NO OTHER BASIS IN ORDINANCE REALLY FOR THAT SPECIFIC KIND OF WALL. SO SO IT IS UNIQUE. AND. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT I'M NOT TERRIBLY SURE THAT THE 2021 ORDINANCE ITSELF, I MEAN, IT IT SAYS AND OTHER LANDSCAPING AS PROVIDED ON THE SITE PLAN. SO, YOU KNOW. I TEND TO AGREE THAT WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW DOESN'T WORK. I BELIEVE THE ENGINEER, WHEN HE SAYS IT IS DANGEROUS TO STACK THOSE CONCRETE BLOCKS. I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY TO GET RID OF THESE HISTORIC BLOCKS. RIGHT. THEY HAVE SOME BASIS IN HISTORY TO TO RE-ENGINEER SOMETHING ELSE. I THINK THERE'S LIKELY AN ALTERNATIVE THAT'LL LOOK GOOD, THAT'LL SCREEN EVERYBODY, NOT JUST RELY ON THESE PLANS THAT A SOCCER BALL IS GOING TO SAIL THROUGH. RIGHT? THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THERE THAT'S LESS SUSCEPTIBLE TO DROUGHT, INSECT, WHATEVER. SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE PERMANENT WOULD PROBABLY LOOK WEIRD. BUT THERE'S THAT ALREADY, THAT METAL SCREENING OVER THERE. BUT I AGREE WITH WITH COMMISSIONER CRAIG THAT THERE PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE SOME ADDITIONAL DIALOG GOING ON. I THINK THERE'S GOT TO BE BASED ON READING THE MATERIAL IN FRONT OF ME, THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME OTHER CREATIVE SOLUTION,

[00:30:02]

WHICH THAT WILL MATCH THE CREATIVE SOLUTIONS. THE 2021 ORDINANCE WAS IN THE FIRST PLACE. I AGREE WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. I MEAN, MCKINNEY IS A SOCCER CITY. MCKINNEY IS A PICKLEBALL CITY. WHEN WE WALK IN AREAS, ESPECIALLY LIKE TOPS, WE'RE GOING TO SEE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS HAPPENING. TO ME, THAT'S THE APPEAL OF TUBS. LET'S YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S GOING ON. SOMETHING FROM THE PAST. YOU KNOW, MCKINNEY. UNIQUE BY NATURE. THERE'S NOTHING NATURE ABOUT CONCRETE BLOCKS. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME TYPE OF TIGHTLY WOVEN MESH AROUND THAT MAYBE IS BREATHABLE. AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THAT THERE'S SOMETHING HAPPENING THROUGH THERE, BUT MAYBE IT ALSO SERVES A PURPOSE OF PREVENTING SOCCER BALLS. I'M A FORMER SOCCER PLAYER, SO I'M A LITTLE BIASED AND THERE'S SOME GOING THROUGH THERE, SOME THINGS FROM A WIRE MESH LANDSCAPE SCREENING PERSPECTIVE THAT YOU COULD HAVE SOME IVY OR SOMETHING. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF CHARACTER, RIGHT? I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES TO CELEBRATE THAT CHARACTER WITH A CREATIVE SOLUTION HERE. THAT'S NOT JUST LETTING PLANTS OVERGROW, RIGHT? BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN LINE WITH THE CITY'S ULTIMATE VISION HERE THAT MAY MEET A CERTAIN INTENT FOR BOTH PARTIES HERE THAT I THINK COULD SERVE FOR THE CHARACTER OF TUBS BETTER. RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE WERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE. IF YOU IF YOU GO LOOK AT THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, THERE'S A FENCE WITH A TWO INCH HOG PANEL THAT'S ON THERE. AND SO THAT AND THEN THERE'S BUSHES THAT GROW ON THAT. SO THERE'S, THERE ARE SOLUTIONS LIKE THAT THAT I THINK ARE A LOT MORE, A LOT MORE ATTRACTIVE AND COST EFFECTIVE AND FIT THE VIBE. SO I MEAN, THEY'RE ALREADY ON SITE. I'D JUST LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO REMIND THE COMMISSION THAT THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. YEAH. WE'RE COMING UP WITH SOLUTIONS. LUCAS, I HAVE ONE QUESTION REAL QUICK. IS THE PURPOSE OF THE CITY WANTING THE ADDITIONAL CONCRETE BLOCKS FROM A NOISE STANDPOINT, OR JUST A TRADITIONAL SCREENING? OR IS IT BOTH? I THINK IT'S BOTH. I THINK THE THE REASON IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE INITIAL IS THAT FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS, WE'D PROBABLY HAVE SEEN A TRADITIONAL MASONRY SCREENING FENCE, AND THIS WAS A MORE TOPS, YOU KNOW, WAREHOUSE DISTRICT TYPE FEEL THAT I THINK OBVIOUSLY THOSE BLOCKS CAME FROM WHAT WAS HERE BEFORE CITY HALL WAS HERE. AND SO I THINK IT WAS, HEY, TO YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER MCWILLIAMS, HERE'S A CREATIVE SOLUTION THAT GETS US A MASONRY SCREENING WALL, WHICH IS WHAT WE USUALLY SEE FOR AN OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT KIND OF USE. BUT WE GET TO REUSE THESE BLOCKS AND IT HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A UNIQUE FEEL THAT FITS THE SITE. AND SO FROM THE STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, THAT WAS A REALLY INTENTIONAL DECISION MADE BY BOTH THE PNC COUNCIL WITH THAT'S U P AT THE TIME OF INCEPTION. AND SO WE FELT LIKE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING WAS, WAS NOT REALLY MEETING THE INTENT. AND TO JESSE'S QUESTION, DOES THE EXISTING SCREENING WALL REALLY HOLD? WELL, IF IF ADDING ONE ONE LAYER IS A CONCERN FOR THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, I THINK THERE'S A CHICKEN AND EGG QUESTION HERE OF DO WE NEED TO SOLVE THE STRUCTURAL COMPONENT FIRST BEFORE WE ADDRESS THE SCREENING? THAT WAS OUR PREFERENCE. THEY'VE SAID, LET'S ADDRESS THE SCREENING FIRST SO THAT WE KNOW IF THE STRUCTURE HAS TO CHANGE. I GET THAT PERSPECTIVE TOO. AGAIN, BACK TO THE CHICKEN AND EGG COMMENT OF WHICH, WHICH PROBLEM DO YOU TACKLE FIRST? BUT IF THE DIRECTION OF THIS COMMISSION IS TO POSTPONE ACTION ON THIS ITEM AND SEND US BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, WE'RE CERTAINLY, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, ALSO WILLING TO EXPLORE WHAT WE CAN DO TO TRY AND STILL MEET THE ORIGINAL INTENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR MR. LEWIS? THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. IF YOU'RE HERE THIS EVENING AND YOU WISH TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, KINDLY APPROACH. KELLY, STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME FOR STAFF. NAME IS EDUARDO MARTINEZ JUNIOR. I LIVE RIGHT BEHIND THE SOCCER FIELD.

SO YEAH, IT IS A NUISANCE THAT THE SOCCER BALLS COME OVER ALL THE TIME. NOW WHEN THE KIDS PLAY, IT'S FINE, BUT WHEN THE LEAD COMES EVERY NIGHT, I EVEN GOT FOOTAGE ON MY CAMERA AND I CAN'T EVEN ENJOY BEING OUTSIDE BECAUSE I DON'T GET HIT BY A SOCCER BALL. I'M NOT LAUGHING.

SORRY. DO YOU AGREE? AND THEN MY WIFE'S GOT PLANTS OUT THERE, AND ONE OF THOSE BALLS HIT OUR HOUSE, HIT THE WINDOW, HIT THE PORCH? YEAH. WHAT ARE YOU DOING? YEAH. THE SOLUTION IS TO PUT A

[00:35:03]

NET LIKE THE TOPGOLF. I DON'T MIND SEEING THE PEOPLE PLAYING SOCCER. I JUST DON'T WANT THE BALLS KEEP GOING OVER. AND THEN WHEN THEY BUILT HUGS, NOW THE SOUND IS LOUDER BECAUSE NOW IT'S BOUNCING OFF THE HUGS THIS WAY. Y'ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CONCRETE, WHICH IT DID WORK BEFORE, BUT NOW HUGS IS THERE. NOW THE SOCCER FIELD IS HIGHER. IT DOES IT. IT'S NOT THAT BAD OF A NUISANCE OF THE SOUND, BUT IT IS LOUDER. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL CAN MEASURE THE DECIBELS OR WHATEVER. WHENEVER THEY HAVE THE DJ OR CONCERT OR WHATEVER, BUT I THINK YOUR SOLUTION SHOULD BE JUST A MESH LIKE TOPGOLF. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT COST, BUT AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHEN THEY PUT THE SOCCER FIELD IN, DID THEY GET I MEAN, THEY ASK ANYBODY AROUND THE AREA, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO PUT A SOCCER FIELD. ARE YOU OKAY WITH IT? I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW. YES. NO, I THINK BASED ON THE CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER IN WHICH HE HAD LISTED PREVIOUSLY, I THINK MAYBE THERE WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION ON WHETHER A SEPARATE SUP, WHICH IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WAS NEEDED BASED ON WHAT WAS ALREADY THERE BEFORE WITH THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT. SO I'M NOT SURE. AND THEN THE LIGHTING. NOW THEY'RE TURNING OFF THE LIGHTS BEFORE THEY WOULD LEAVE THOSE LIGHTS, BRIGHT LIGHTS. I MEAN, IT JUST IT'S CRAZY. HAD TO PUT DARKER CURTAINS ON MY HOUSE. SO THEY DO TURN OFF THE LIGHTS WHEN THEY'RE WHEN NOBODY'S PLAYING, WHICH IS GOOD. OKAY. AND I'M HAPPY FOR THAT. BUT AS IN THE ANSWER TO ME, MESH SCREEN BUSHES ARE NOT GOING TO STOP. THE SOCCER FIELD. PLANTS ARE NOT GOING TO STOP THE SOCCER FIELD. AND YOU'RE SAYING YOU DON'T WANT WOOD OR METAL, WHICH IT DOES LOOK BAD, BUT I THINK A SCREENING WOULD BE YOUR SOLUTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. MR. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. IF YOU'RE HERE THIS EVENING AND YOU WISH TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, KINDLY APPROACH.

OKAY. SEEING AS THERE ARE NONE, DO WE HAVE A MOTION REGARDING ITEM 21-0009SP2? I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS PROPER OR NOT, BUT CAN. CAN YOU MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE AN ITEM? WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THE ITEM. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM AND ALLOW THE APPLICANT AND CITY STAFF AN OPPORTUNITY TO. COME TOGETHER AND, AND FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION THAT THAT EVERYONE CAN GET BEHIND. CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH THAT TO THEN, OR I WOULD ASK THAT YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE IT INDEFINITELY. AND THEN WE WOULD RE NOTICE BEFORE WE BROUGHT IT BACK TO ANOTHER MEETING, HAVE WE NOT CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING YET? SO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND THEN I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE THIS ITEM INDEFINITELY. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CRAIG, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATLEY, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE THIS ITEM INDEFINITELY. KINDLY CAST YOUR VOTE. THAT MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. NEXT

[26-0053SP Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Design Exception to a Site Plan for a proposed Multi-Family Development (Davis Rowlett Station Apartments), Located at 1,100 Feet East of Custer Road and Approximately 280 Feet South of Eldorado Parkway]

ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM 26-0053SP. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACT ON A DESIGN EXCEPTION TO A SITE PLAN FOR A PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. DAVIS ROWLETT STATION APARTMENTS, LOCATED 1100FT EAST OF CUSTER ROAD AND APPROXIMATELY 280FT SOUTH OF EL DORADO EL DORADO PARKWAY. MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS ITEM. OKAY. THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOOD EVENING. JAKE BENNETT, PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. THIS IS A SITE PLAN FOR A PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT LOCATED BETWEEN EL DORADO AND STONEBRIDGE AND JUST EAST OF CUSTER. THERE SITE PLANS ARE TYPICALLY APPROVED AT THE STAFF LEVEL. HOWEVER, WHEN A DESIGN EXCEPTION IS REQUESTED, IT REQUIRES APPROVAL FROM P AND Z.

THE DESIGN EXCEPTION REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT IS TO DEVIATE FROM THE STANDARD SCREENING REQUIREMENTS FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES. THE UDC CURRENTLY REQUIRES A SIX FOOT TALL MASONRY SCREENING WALL ALONG ALL SIDE AND REAR PROPERTY LINES. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO UTILIZE A DECORATIVE METAL FENCE AND EVERGREEN SCREENING SHRUBS ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE ALTERNATIVE FENCING PROVIDES A DEFINED SEPARATION OF USES BETWEEN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL

[00:40:05]

DEVELOPMENTS, WHILE ALSO MAINTAINING OVERALL CHARACTER OF THE GENERAL AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE DESIGN EXCEPTION. I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU JAKE. SO THIS IS A METAL FENCE WITH WITH BRICK MASONRY OR MASONRY, I SHOULD SAY COLUMNS OR. YEAH, IT'S A DECORATIVE METAL FENCE. AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SHRUBS THAT WILL BE PLANTED AT THREE FEET IN HEIGHT, BUT WILL GROW TO BE ESSENTIALLY A SOLID SIX FOOT TALL SCREENING DEVICE AROUND THE PROPERTY. AND THEN ALL OF THE PROPERTY SURROUNDING THIS, THIS IS KIND OF INTERNAL WHERE IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY DIRECT STREET FRONTAGE. SO EVERYTHING SURROUNDING IT IS NONRESIDENTIAL USES. YOU HAVE THE OLD GLOBE LIFE THERE TO THE SOUTHWEST, AND THEN OTHER COMMERCIAL TYPE USES SURROUNDING IT TO THE NORTH AND EAST AND SOUTH. AND THIS IS A PART OF LARGER DEVELOPMENT THAT INCLUDES THE PROPERTIES SURROUNDING IT OR MANY OF THEM. CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. YES. THERE'S INTENDED TO BE SOME SOME FLOW BACK AND FORTH. THAT'S CORRECT. THERE WAS A REZONING RECENTLY IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS JUST WEST OF HERE, ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF EL DORADO, WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOING A MIXED USE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT OR A MIX OF COMMERCIAL TYPE USES, TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, RETAIL, RESTAURANT, SMALL PARK, THAT KIND OF THING. SO IT WOULD ALLOW A LITTLE BIT OF FLOW FROM THE RESIDENTS LIVING HERE TO THE SURROUNDING LITTLE BIT OF CONNECTIVITY.

YEAH. JAKE, DO YOU KNOW IF THE ONLY ACCESS TO THE SITE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE RIGHT PRIOR TO. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE RESTAURANT IS YOU'VE GOT OVER THERE, THE, THE RESTAURANT STRIP GOT THE LITTLE SIDE STREET OR WILL THERE ALSO BE ACCESS? LET ME TAKE A LOOK HERE.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE THAT ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE WHERE WE'RE AT THE PLAN BOTTOM HERE. THERE'S A COUPLE OF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE MAIN ACCESS POINTS. THAT IS THE FIRE LANE THAT CURRENTLY COMES UP THROUGH THE OLD GLOBE LIFE PROPERTY ON THE EAST NORTHEAST SIDE OF THERE. OKAY.

PROPERTY. IT MAY ALSO HAVE SOME CROSS ACCESS IN HERE. THIS IS ONE THAT I'M FILLING IN FOR EMILY TONIGHT, SO I'M NOT TOO FAMILIAR AND CAN DEFER TO THE APPLICANT, BUT THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHAT I'M SEEING HERE. OKAY. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR MR. BENNETT? THE APPLICANT HERE? I BELIEVE SO, YES. KINDLY STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. STAFF. GOOD EVENING. JEAN BABB, DAVIS DEVELOPMENT, 1220 BLUEBELL COURT, SALINA, TEXAS, 75009. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BASICALLY, FOR THE SAME REASONS YOU ALL MENTIONED THE CONNECTIVITY. AND WE FEEL LIKE THE THE MASONRY SCREENING WALL DOESN'T LEND ITSELF TO THE TO THE VISION AND THE CHARACTER OF THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO INTERACT WITH THE EXISTING RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS, AND ALSO THE ADDITIONAL NEW FORTHCOMING RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS UP TO THE NORTH AT EL DORADO. BUT STILL WILL BE A SECURED COMPLETELY WITH THE METAL FENCE AND SECURED ENTRANCES AND EXITS AND THE TWO MAIN ACCESS POINTS THERE ALONG THE. WAS AT THE WEST, CORRECT? WELL, SO COMING OFF OF EL DORADO TO THE NORTH, AND THAT WOULD BE THE NORTHERNMOST ACCESS POINT, AND THEN STONE BRIDGE FROM THE SOUTH. AND THE SECOND POINT OF ACCESS WOULD BE RIGHT THERE. OKAY. SO IT IS ACCESS. OKAY. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR MR. BABB? THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. IF YOU'RE HERE THIS EVENING AND YOU WISH TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, KINDLY APPROACH. OKAY. SEEING IS THERE NONE. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MCWILLIAMS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KASIM.

KINDLY CAST YOUR VOTE. AND THAT MOTION CARRIES 6 TO 0. OKAY. OUR NEXT ITEM. COMMISSIONER. I

[00:45:06]

THINK SHE WENT TO GET HIM. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. OUR NEXT ITEM. ITEM 26-0010SUP. CONDUCT A

[26-0010SUP Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Specific Use Permit Request for Vehicle Repair, Minor (Christian Brothers Automotive), Located at the Southwest Corner of South Independence Parkway and Virginia Parkkway]

PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACT ON A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR VEHICLE REPAIR. MINOR CHRISTIAN BROTHERS AUTOMOTIVE LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF SOUTH INDEPENDENCE PARKWAY AND VIRGINIA PARKWAY. MR. REYNOLDS. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

COMMISSION DESTINY REYNOLDS, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF MCKINNEY FILLING IN AGAIN FOR EMILY BELL ON THIS CASE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED GENERALLY ON THE FAR WEST SIDE OF MCKINNEY AND IS SITUATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF VIRGINIA AND INDEPENDENCE. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DEVELOP A VEHICLE REPAIR MINOR CHRISTIAN BROTHERS AUTOMOTIVE, WITH THE PROPERTY BEING LOCATED WITHIN A C2 LOCAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT WITH RESIDENTIAL USE TO THE SOUTH AND WEST. COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL ETJ USES TO THE NORTH AND UNDEVELOPED ETJ TO THE EAST TO MINIMIZE ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE TO THE WEST. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO BUILD A OR IS PROPOSING A 55 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK BUFFER BETWEEN THE SINGLE FAMILY USES TO THE WEST AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS MEETING THE REQUIRED 30 FOOT SETBACK TO THE SOUTH. AND I WILL GO AHEAD AND SHOW YOU ON HERE. SO THEY'RE WANTING TO DO THAT SETBACK FROM HERE IS THE PROPERTY LINE. AND THEN THEY'RE WANTING TO HAVE THAT BE THE 55 FOOT SETBACK BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO ORIENTING THEIR BASE TOWARD THE VACANT LOT TO THE NORTH AND AWAY FROM SINGLE FAMILY. THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO ADD SCREENING ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL USES, AND IS PROPOSING A SIX FOOT WROUGHT IRON FENCE WITH SHRUBS TO FULFILL THIS REQUIREMENT. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT COMPLIES WITH ALL SITE SPECIFIC ZONING AND USE REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED WITHIN THE OR WITHIN MCKINNEY'S UDC, INCLUDING BUILDING HEIGHT, PARKING, LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING. GIVEN THE SITE'S LOCATION AT THE HARD CORNER OF TWO MAJOR ARTERIALS AND ITS COMPLIANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE CITY CRITERIA, STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LOCATION AND SHOULD NOT ADVERSELY IMPACT ANY ADJACENT PROPERTIES. AS SUCH, STAFF STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND STAFF WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FOUR CITIZEN COMMENTS IN OPPOSITION THROUGH THE ONLINE PORTAL, AND WITH THAT, I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MISS REYNOLDS. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DESTINY? SO YOU MENTIONED THAT 50 OR 55 FOOT SETBACK, BUT THAT'S NOT AS REFLECTED ON THIS EXHIBIT, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. AND I ALWAYS SAY I WISH I COULD ZOOM IN ON THIS, BUT THEY HAVE THE REQUIRED 30 FOOT. SHOWN TO THE EAST. THANK YOU CHARLIE. RIGHT. AND THEN THEY'VE ALSO GOT THAT EXTRA BUFFER RIGHT THERE. YEAH. THEY'VE GOT IT TO MENTION TO THE TRASH ENCLOSURE AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL 25FT BETWEEN THAT AND THE BUILDING IS THE 55, I BELIEVE. YES THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. LOOKS LIKE IT. IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING IF THEY ARE ABLE TO MAKE THEIR SITE FIT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM. WHICH IS EVIDENCED BY THE PLAN. WHAT IS THE NEED FOR THE EXTRA SETBACK OR THE TO TO MINIMIZE THE SETBACK? IT'S. ADDING THE EXTRA SETBACK IS JUST A NICE BUFFER BETWEEN THE SINGLE FAMILY AND THE ACTUAL BUILDING ITSELF. IT'S NOT REQUIRED, BUT IT IS JUST A NICE LITTLE EXTRA ROOM. SORRY, I MUST HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD. ARE THEY ASKING FOR A LESS OF AN. NO, THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING. THEY'RE JUST. THE ZONING REQUIRES AN SUP AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING TONIGHT. UNDERSTOOD. SORRY. NO, YOU'RE ALL GOOD. AND WHAT IS THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE SOUTH PART OF THE BUILDING AND THE RESIDENTIAL? THAT'S TO THE SOUTH OF THEM. I BELIEVE IT'S JUST THE REQUIRED 30 FOOT BUFFER. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT IT SHOWS HERE ON THE SITE PLAN. WHAT ARE THEY PLANNING WITH THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THIS PARCEL THAT OWNS THE HARD CORNER? THAT NORTHERN PORTION? I'M NOT

[00:50:01]

ENTIRELY SURE THIS IS EMILY'S CASE. I'M NOT SURE IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING PLANNED AT THE MOMENT, BUT I'M NOT FAMILIAR. DOES THE SUP COVER BOTH LOTS OR IS IT JUST THIS CHRISTIAN BROTHERS? IT'S JUST THIS CHRISTIAN BROTHERS LOT. OKAY. THE THE SITE'S NOT CURRENTLY SUBDIVIDED, SO WE'VE NOTICED FOR THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. OKAY. BUT THE SUP, IF APPROVED, HAS TO CONFORM TO THIS EXHIBIT. SO THAT EFFECTIVELY LOCKS IN WHAT THEY'VE SHOWN HERE ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE LOT. OKAY. YEAH, BECAUSE I NOTICED ONE OF THE MAPS INCLUDED THAT HARD CORNER BECAUSE IT'S NOT SUBDIVIDED. WE NOTICE FOR THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. SO PEOPLE WHO ARE FURTHER THAN 200FT FROM WHERE THIS THIS PROPOSED PROPERTY LINE WILL BE, WE'RE STILL NOTICED BECAUSE UNTIL THEY SUBDIVIDE THAT PROPERTY, WE ONLY USE PARCEL DATA FOR NOTICES. OKAY. MAKES SENSE. BUT FOR WHATEVER USE FOR THE NORTHERN PORTION, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND GET THEM. IF IT WAS. IF IT REQUIRED AN SUP, THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK AS WELL. BUT AT THIS POINT WE DON'T HAVE ANY SUBMITTALS FOR THE NORTHERN PORTION. REMEMBER, THEY'RE NOT PLANNING ON DOING ANY OUTDOOR PARKING. THEY'LL JUST KNOW THEY'RE ALL THEY'RE PARKING THAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO. I HAD A CASE THAT YOU SAW A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, SO THIS MIGHT BE DÉJA VU, BUT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR WHERE IF THEY DO HAVE OUTDOOR STORAGE, THEY'RE GOING TO JUST BE STORING OR THEY'RE NOT DOING OUTDOOR STORAGE. IF THEY NEED OVERNIGHT STORAGE, THEY'RE DOING IT INSIDE OF THE BUILDING. OKAY. OKAY. I DIDN'T LOOK UP THE CASE FROM A FEW WEEKS AGO. WAS THAT A COURT THAT WAS AT HARDIN AND WILMOTH THAT ALSO HAD RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT WAS ONE THAT WAS OVER ON THE WEST SIDE. THERE WAS ALSO YES, I HAD TWO A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THAT WERE VERY SIMILAR TO THIS. I HAD ONE ON KUWAIT AND THEN ONE ON HARDIN AND WILMOTH, THE ONE ON HARDIN AND WILMOTH HAD THE TRUE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY. OKAY. YEAH, I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER WHERE THAT WAS. SO, SO THE EXISTING ZONING IS, WELL, THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO CHANGE THE ZONING. NO, THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO CHANGE THE ZONING. WHAT IS THE ZONING. IT'S C TWO. SO LOCAL COMMERCIAL. AND PER THE ZONING DISTRICT IT JUST REQUIRES THE SUP FOR ANY AUTOMOTIVE TYPE. YEAH. OKAY I UNDERSTAND. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? MR. REYNOLDS IS OUR APPLICANT HERE THIS EVENING? YES THEY ARE, AND THEY DO HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU. OKAY. WONDERFUL. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE STAFF. FOR STAFF. THANK YOU. DESTINY LINDSEY, MAYOR WITH DYNAMIC ENGINEERING. THE ADDRESS IS 714 SOUTH GREENVILLE AVENUE, ALLEN, TEXAS. SO, LINDSEY, MAYOR WITH DYNAMIC ENGINEERING, THE CIVIL CONSULTANT. ALSO TONIGHT, WE ALSO HAVE THE REPRESENTATIVE CHRISTIAN BROTHERS HERE TO TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. OH, DO I CLICK. WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. AND AS DESTINY SAID, WE'RE AT THE HARD CORNER OF INDEPENDENCE AND VIRGINIA. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED LOCAL COMMERCIAL. BUT TONIGHT WE'RE HERE TO SEEK APPROVAL ON THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR MINOR. THE USAGE. SO WE'RE PROPOSING A CHRISTIAN BROTHERS AUTOMOTIVE, WHICH IS A 6000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. IT'S TEN BAYS THAT WILL FACE THE BAYS.

WILL FACE VIRGINIA PARKWAY. TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO INTRODUCE THE PROJECT. WE'RE GOING TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CHRISTIAN BROTHERS AUTOMOTIVE OPERATIONS, WHICH YOU ALREADY HAVE ANOTHER ONE ELSEWHERE WITHIN YOUR CITY, AND THEN ALSO DISCUSS SOME CONCERNS AND HELP PUT THOSE TO EASE FOR YOU. HERE IS THE EXTERIOR ELEVATIONS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

ALL SIDES OF THE BUILDING. SO HERE'S THE SITE PLAN THAT DESTINY SHOWED. AND HERE I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED THE TEN BAYS THAT ARE FACING VIRGINIA. AND AS DESTINY NOTED TO THAT, ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO COME IN THE FUTURE. AND ALSO BLOCK THAT FROM THE VISUAL, FROM THE ROADWAY TO WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS TIME WHAT THAT WILL BE. THE PROPERTY, THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS ZONED COMMERCIAL. I ANTICIPATE IN THE FUTURE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT GOING THERE. BUT AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT A PROPOSED USE THAT'S NOT ALLOWED, IT'LL HAVE TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF YOU. BUT RIGHT NOW IT IS ZONED COMMERCIAL. THE HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE IS OUR SCREENING WALL. AGAIN, THAT'S SCREENING ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT WERE ADJACENT TO. AND THEN ALSO I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED SLIGHTLY THE 30 FOOT SETBACK ON THE SOUTH SIDE. AND ALSO WE HAVE A 30 FOOT SETBACK AND WE'RE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS FROM THE WESTERN SIDE TO OUR DUMPSTER AND COMPRESSOR AREA. THEN THERE'S THE ADDITIONAL FOOTAGE TO THE ACTUAL BUILDING THAT YOU GUYS LOOKED AT A SECOND AGO.

HERE'S OUR LANDSCAPE PLAN AGAIN, THE SCREENING WALL. AND THEN BETWEEN THE SCREENING WALL AND THE RESIDENCE, WE LEFT AN AREA TO PLANT TREES. SO THE ADJACENT RESIDENTS AREN'T LOOKING BECAUSE THEY HAVE A WOODEN FENCE. SO IT'S NOT TWO FENCES BACK TO BACK TO EACH OTHER. SO

[00:55:04]

IT DOESN'T CAUSE ANY KIND OF DEAD SPACE FOR, YOU KNOW, WILDLIFE OR GRASS THAT YOU CAN'T MAINTAIN OR ANY KIND OF TRASH BUILDUP. WE DID GIVE A SEPARATION DIFFERENCE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EXISTING WOODEN FENCES AND OUR PROPOSED SCREENED WALL. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO PLANTING SOME TREES. SO THEY'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT VISUAL LOOKING OUT AT THE GREENERY. HERE IS THE FLOOR PLAN OF THE BUILDING. SO CHRISTIAN BROTHERS, THEY HAVE APPROXIMATELY 330 LOCATIONS IN 30 STATES. THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 1982. SO THEY HAVE OVER 43 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, AND THEY HAVE NEVER CLOSED A LOCATION. I THINK THAT SAYS SOMETHING LIKE, THEY'RE HERE FOR THE LONG TERM. ALL THE SHOPS ARE OWNED BY THE OPERATOR, SO THEY'RE INSIDE THE BUILDING EVERY SINGLE DAY. THEY'RE MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S QUALITY SERVICE AND MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITIES. ALSO, THE OWNERS ARE ALWAYS LOCAL, SO YOU GET THAT BENEFIT OF THEM BEING VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY. THEY COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IS HUGE FOR CHRISTIAN BROTHERS, SO THEY DO WANT TO GO OUT AND GIVE SPONSORSHIPS, DONATIONS AND JUST BE AN ACTIVE PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND GIVE BACK. ALSO CBA SCOPE OF WORK. SO THEY WANT TO BE AN EXTENSION OF A DEALERSHIP, BUT THEY WANT TO PROVIDE A TO BE LOCAL WITHIN THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT ADDITIONAL COST OR WAIT TIME TO BE A CONVENIENCE FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS OF MCKINNEY. THEY'RE NOT A QUICK LUBE SERVICE SHOP. THEY DON'T DO ANY KIND OF BODY WORK. THERE'S NO PAINTING TIRE RECAPPING, OR ANY KIND OF HUGE NOISE GENERATORS. THEY TYPICALLY DO GENERAL MAINTENANCE OF YOUR VEHICLE. SO THAT'S INCLUDING DIAGNOSTICS, BRAKE SHOCKS, TUNE UPS, ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS, AC ALIGNMENTS, AND OCCASIONALLY A SMALL SCOPE OF THEIR WORK IS SOME OIL CHANGES, THEIR HOURS OF OPERATIONS. THEY'RE ONLY OPEN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM 7 A.M. TO 6 P.M. THEY'RE CLOSED ON THE WEEKENDS. THEY TYPICALLY HAVE 10 TO 11 EMPLOYEES ON STAFF. AS DESTINY MENTIONED, THE VEHICLES ARE NOT STORED.

THERE'S NO OUTDOOR STORAGE. THEY TRY TO DO ALL OF THE WORK WITHIN THE SAME DAY THAT IT'S THAT THE CAR IS BROUGHT TO THE SHOP. HOWEVER, SOMETIMES IT IS GO INTO THE NEXT DAY, BUT INSTEAD OF LEAVING THE CARS PARKED OUTSIDE, THEY BRING THOSE CARS INTO THE BAYS AND THEY STORE THEM IN THE BAYS. NOW THEY DO HAVE A DROP BOX FOR SOME PEOPLE TO LEAVE THEIR VEHICLES OVERNIGHT OR EARLY IN THE MORNING. YOU KNOW, IF IT'S OUTSIDE THAT 7 TO 6 MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY WINDOW. SO THERE IS A DROP OFF LOCATION. BUT AGAIN, OVERNIGHT THEY KEEP THEIR VEHICLES STORED INSIDE THE BAYS AND THERE'S NO OUTDOOR STORAGE. THEY ALSO OFFER SHUTTLE SERVICES WHEN YOU DROP OFF YOUR VEHICLE TO OR WHEN IT'S COMPLETE, TO COME PICK YOU UP AND BRING YOU BACK TO THE FACILITY AS WELL. SO THEIR SHOP CLEANLINESS, THEY HAVE A ZAMBONI STYLE FLOOR CLEANER THAT THEY RUN ALL THE TIME. THEY ALSO HAVE A STORAGE DOUBLE WALL CONTAINERS AND THEY RECYCLE ALL OF THEIR FLUIDS. THEY ALSO, ON EVERY FACILITY HAVE AN OIL WATER SEPARATOR. SO THEY'RE VERY ENVIRONMENTAL FRIENDLY AND REALLY DO LIKE TO KEEP KEEP A CLEAN FACILITY. ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF CHRISTIAN BROTHERS, AGAIN, THEY'LL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL AUTOMOBILE REPAIR SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY. THEY PROVIDE EMPLOYMENT TO THE CITIZENS AS WELL. THAT'S TAX BASED. SO ON AVERAGE, A SIMILAR SITE WOULD DO ALMOST $3 MILLION IN REVENUE. AND THEN THEY THEY PRIDE THEMSELVES ON CUSTOMER SERVICE.

SO IT WAS RANKED NUMBER ONE IN CUSTOMER SATISFACTION AMONGST AFTERMARKET MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR PROVIDERS BY J.D. POWER FOR SIX CONSECUTIVE YEARS. SO, CHRISTIAN BROTHERS, WHAT CAN NEIGHBORS EXPECT? ONE OF THEIR MOTTOS IS LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR. SO AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF RESTATING SOME OF THIS. ALL THE REPAIRS ARE PERFORMED INSIDE THE SERVICE BAYS. THERE'S NO EXTERNAL WORK HAPPENING WITHIN THE PARKING LOT AND NO EXTERNAL STORAGE. THERE'S NO BODY WORK PAINTING, TIRE, RECAPPING, ENGINE OR TRANSMISSION, REBUILDING. THEIR HOURS ARE LIMITED TO MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. 7 TO 6 CLOSED ON THE WEEKENDS. NO OVERNIGHT VEHICLE STORED. NO OUTDOOR REPAIR. AND THEN THEY ALSO PROVIDE THE SHIELDED LIGHTING AND

[01:00:01]

NEIGHBORHOOD SCREENING. AS WE SHOWED ON THE SITE PLAN, A COUPLE CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT UP. WE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT TRAFFIC. WELL, THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED COMMERCIAL AND A CHRISTIAN BROTHERS AUTOMOTIVE IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE LEAST IMPACTFUL FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT. WE TYPICALLY HAVE 18 TO 22 CARS ON A PEAK BUSINESS DAYS. ARE ON A PEAK, IT'S 30, BUT ON AVERAGE IT'S 18 TO 22. AGAIN, THIS IS MORE OF A DESTINATION BASED BUSINESS. LIKE IF YOU'RE COMING HERE FOR A PURPOSE, RIGHT, TO GET YOUR VEHICLE WORK DONE. AND SO IT'S NOT A HIGH VOLUME DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN I SHOULD HAVE POINTED IT OUT, BUT ACCESS TO THE SITE IS ONLY ON INDEPENDENCE. AND VIRGINIA, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY KIND OF CONNECTIONS TO THE NEIGHBORS. AND THERE'S RIGHT TURN LANES ON BOTH ENTRANCES FROM BOTH ROADWAYS TO. NOISE CONCERNS. SOME PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE NOISE. WELL, WE'VE DONE SOME STUDIES AND AGAIN, THE SERVICE BAYS ARE FACING VIRGINIA PARKWAY, SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE FACING THE RESIDENTS. ON AVERAGE. OUR STUDY DID ABOUT 100FT AWAY IS ABOUT 50 TO 55DB. AND IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR, THAT'S ABOUT THE SAME AS AN AIR CONDITIONER UNIT. SO IT IS VERY LOW IMPACT ON THE NOISE. AND WE HAVE SEVERAL, LIKE I SAID, WE WERE IN OVER 30 STATES. WE HAVE SEVERAL EXISTING FACILITIES THAT ARE NEXT TO RESIDENTS, EARLY CHILD CARE ELEMENTARY. AND WE'VE NEVER RECEIVED A NOISE COMPLAINT. I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 10TH OF THIS YEAR. WE HAD. HERE ARE SOME OF THE THE PEOPLE WHO FILLED OUT THE FORMS. THIS IS THEIR FORM. I TOOK OFF THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION FOR PRIVACY REASONS, BUT IF YOU GUYS WANT THE INFORMATION, WE CAN SEND YOU OVER THE FORMS. BUT AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, YOU CAN SEE HERE THREE PEOPLE WERE IN SUPPORT OF IT. ONE PERSON AT THE BEGINNING WAS KIND OF NEUTRAL AND AFTER HEARING OUR PRESENTATIONS AT THE END, WAS SUPPORTIVE. AND AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE THIS FACILITY THAN A COMMERCIAL FACILITY. HONESTLY, THERE ARE ONLY CONCERN WAS PEST CONTROL. SO ANY QUESTIONS THE COUNCIL HAS FOR MYSELF OR CHRISTIAN BROTHERS, I THINK I THINK THIS HAS BEEN TOUCHED ON. BUT JUST TO CONFIRM THE SCREENING WALL THAT'S GOING TO BE ALONG THE WEST AND THE SOUTH IS A SOLID MASONRY SCREENING. NO. SO IT IS IT'S THE BLUE AREA ON YOUR SCREEN. AND IF YOU SEE IT HIGHLIGHTED AT THE BOTTOM, IT'S ACTUALLY EVERY I THINK TEN FEET IS STONE COLUMNS, MASONRY OR MASONRY COLUMNS, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE TUBULAR FENCING. OKAY. SO IT'S NOT A SOLID MASONRY. OKAY.

AND HOW LARGE IS THE GAP BETWEEN THE WOOD FENCE AND THE SCREENING? AS YOU MENTIONED, THERE WAS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF A GAP FOR I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 17.30. I SEE IT HERE NOW.

THAT'S YEAH, YEAH. SEVEN THREE. YEAH. GOTCHA. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. AND IS THAT GOING TO BE CHRISTIAN BROTHERS RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN OR. YES, IT'S OUR PROPERTY. SO WE WILL MAINTAIN THAT. YES. SO YOU MENTIONED ABOUT A COMPRESSOR. SO IS THAT GOING TO BE OUTSIDE.

IT IS IN CONTAINED INSIDE OF A BUILDING COMPRESSOR IS YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A SHED, BUT IT'S JUST A LITTLE BUILDING THAT CONTAINS THE COMPRESSOR. OKAY. SO YOU TALKED ABOUT NOISE LEVEL. YES. WAS THAT INCORPORATED IN THAT DECIMAL? YES. OKAY. WELL, LET ME CONFIRM. YES. OKAY. AND YOU SAID YOU MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WAS THAT A HOA THAT YOU MET WITH OR JUST SO THE OHOA DID NOT ASSIST IN SCHEDULING THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. SO WE JUST WENT OUT AND WE SENT OUT CERTIFIED LETTERS TO RESIDENTS WITHIN 300FT OF OUR PROPERTY. AND WE HELD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AT THE JOHN AND JUDY GAY LIBRARY.

OKAY. AND THE ATTENDANCE WAS LIGHT MEDIUM. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. LIGHT. YEAH. MEDIUM. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE THERE? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, BUT I THINK ABOUT SEVEN PEOPLE. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU CONSIDERED MEDIUM. OKAY. HOW MANY RESIDENTS LIVE IN THAT AREA? I THINK WE OH MAN. HOW MANY LETTERS DID WE SEND OUT? I THINK IT WAS MAYBE 35 LETTERS. AND THAT WAS WITHIN 300FT. RIGHT? YOU GUYS NOTICED 200. WE WENT AHEAD AND DID 300FT. I UNDERSTOOD AFTER YOU MET WITH RESIDENTS, HAVE YOU INFORMED

[01:05:04]

THE OUTCOME TO THE HOA? WHAT WAS THAT? HAVE YOU HAVE YOU SHARED THE OUTCOME OF THE MEETING OF THE RESIDENT WITH THE HOA? NO, SIR. WHY NOT? THE HOA SAID TO CONTACT THEIR MANAGEMENT COMPANY. THEIR MANAGEMENT COMPANY SAID THEY WOULD NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT UNLESS WE PAID FOR A DONATION OF $5,000 FOR THEIR FALL CARNIVAL. YES, SO WE TRIED, BUT WE WEREN'T WANTING TO DONATE TO THE FALL CARNIVAL, AND THE HOA WASN'T INVOLVED IN ASSISTING WITH SCHEDULING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. NO, SIR. THEY TOLD US TO WORK WITH THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY, AND THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY GAVE US THAT RESPONSE.

OKAY, OKAY. OKAY. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR MISS MAYOR? NO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT.

IF YOU'RE HERE THIS EVENING AND YOU WISH TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, KINDLY APPROACH.

KINDLY STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR STAFF. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DEBORAH NAVARRO. 213 SANDY CREEK WAY AND I RESIDE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO PULL UP THE MAP. MY HOUSE IS THE THIRD HOUSE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT, AND MY CONCERN WAS NOISE. AND I'M LOOKING TO YOU GUYS TO TO HAVE MY BACK AND SAY WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS GOOD, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW. I ASKED THEM AND THEY SAID YES, THAT THEY'RE EXACTLY WHAT SHE SAID UP HERE.

SO I'M, I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT BECAUSE I THINK I'D RATHER HAVE THIS THAN A RESTAURANT WHICH HAS MORE PESTS. AND WE ALREADY HAVE PEST PROBLEMS AS IT IS. AND SO I'VE LIVED THERE 13 YEARS SINCE IT ALL WAS DEVELOPED, AND I'VE BEEN LUCKY TO HAVE AN OPEN LOT FOR 13 YEARS. SO IF I HAD MY DRUTHERS, I'D RATHER HAVE THIS THAN SOMETHING LIKE A A RESTAURANT.

BUT AGAIN, KIND OF LOOKING TO YOU GUYS TO, TO KIND OF HAVE OUR BACK, OUR NEIGHBORS THERE, WE'RE NOT REALLY, THEY'RE NOT REALLY, THERE REALLY AREN'T A LOT OF THEM THAT KIND OF SPEAK UP BECAUSE I KNOW TO MY ON EITHER SIDE OF ME, THERE'S RENTAL PROPERTIES. SO THEY'RE OF COURSE NOT GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE A COME TO, TO SPEAK, RIGHT? I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST RENTING THEIR HOUSE. SO WHAT DO THEY CARE? AND THEN ON THIS REALLY, I DON'T REALLY KNOW ANYBODY ON THAT SOUTH SIDE TO TO KNOW IF THOSE ARE RENTAL OR NOT. I KNOW MORE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE UP ON THE WEST SIDE, WHICH IS WHERE MY HOUSE IS. SO LIKE I SAID, KIND OF LOOKING TO YOU GUYS TO WAVE A FLAG AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMETHING GLARING THAT I WILL LIKE, SHOULD I SAY SOMETHING OR SHOULDN'T I? BUT EVERYTHING FROM WHAT I SAW WHEN I EVEN ATTENDED THE MEETING SEEMED OKAY. SO AGAIN, LOOKING TO MY FELLOW COMMUNITY TO TO HAVE MY BACK AND I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY. BUT THAT'S KIND OF MY TAKE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT.

SO IF YOU'RE HERE THIS EVENING AND WISH TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, KINDLY APPROACH.

KINDLY STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. HI, I'M ARDEN BULLOCK. I LIVE AT 10,004 BRIDGEWATER DRIVE, SO I AM ON THE BLUE LINE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, LITERALLY BEHIND IT. I YOU'LL HAVE TO FORGIVE ME. I'M A COURT REPORTER, SO NORMALLY I'M TAKING DOWN WHAT EVERYONE SAYS AND NOT HAVING PEOPLE LISTEN TO WHAT I SAY. SO. I GUESS WHEN I FIRST GOT THE LETTER, I CONTACTED MY HOA AND THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. I DON'T KNOW WHICH HOA SHE'S REFERRING TO IF IT'S THE RESERVE AT WESTRIDGE, BUT THEY HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF THIS. AND WE DO HAVE A FALL FESTIVAL. IT'S OUTSIDE OUR POOL AND IT HAS LIKE TWO FOOD TRUCKS. SO I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE DONATION PART OF IT. I DO HAVE NEIGHBOR. IT'S NOT RENTAL PROPERTIES ON THE SOUTH SIDE. MY NEIGHBOR HAS BEEN THERE LONGER THAN I HAVE, AND WE HAVE AN ELDERLY COUPLE WHO LIVES TO THE WEST SIDE OF US. I WHEN I GOT THIS LETTER, I WENT AHEAD BECAUSE WHEN I MOVED INTO THIS PROPERTY, IT WAS IT WAS A FIELD AND I KNEW WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED FOR. WHEN WE BOUGHT IT, IT WAS FOR A LIKE A SOFT LANDING, LIKE DAYCARE, MEDICAL BUILDINGS, DEFINITELY NOT AUTOMOTIVE. AND SO WHEN I, AND I WAS LIKE, WAIT, THERE ARE AUTOMOTIVE SHOPS LITERALLY LESS THAN A MILE JUST EAST. THERE IS A DIRECT ZONE, DRIVE ZONE, DRIVE ZONE. AND THEN A LITTLE

[01:10:04]

BIT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD, THERE'S ALREADY AN AUTOMOTIVE SHOP. SO WE ALREADY HAVE TWO ON VIRGINIA RIGHT THERE. AND I THINK WE'RE KIND OF LOOSELY MAKING THIS SOUND LIKE A LIKE IT COULD BE A RESTAURANT, IT COULDN'T BE A RESTAURANT. THAT'S WHY IT'S BEEN A FIELD FOR SO LONG. NO RESTAURANT WOULD PUT IN THAT LOCATION. AND THE WHOLE FIELD. SO YOU'RE PUTTING THE BUILDING RIGHT UP ON OUR FENCE LINE. AND IF YOU LOOK OUTSIDE OUR HOUSE RIGHT NOW, IT'S FIELDS AND THEN IT'S A FIELD BEHIND IT, A FARMLAND BEHIND IT. SO. THERE ARE HOUSES ALL THE WAY AROUND IN A SMALL GOLF COURSE AND HOUSING OVER HERE. SO WE YOU WOULD BE A AUTOMOTIVE SHOP IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA. THE HIGH SCHOOL IS RIGHT UP TO THE NORTH NORTHWEST OF IT. WE HAVE A MIDDLE SCHOOL JUST OFF OF HILLCREST, AND THEN WE HAVE AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, PROBABLY LESS THAN HALF A MILE FROM THE SAID AUTOMOTIVE ZONE. AND ANOTHER THING I DID JUST IN CASE TO ADDRESS THE SOUND ISSUES, I WENT TO A CHRISTIAN BROTHERS AUTOMOTIVE DURING THEIR OPERATING HOURS TO SEE HOW QUIETLY THEY ADVERTISE THEMSELVES, AND IT WASN'T QUIET AT ALL. I MEAN, FOR AN AUTOMOTIVE SHOP. YES, I APPRECIATE THAT THERE WAS A SOUND BUFFER, BUT IT WASN'T QUIET AT ALL. AND CONSIDERING MY FENCE LINES UP RIGHT UP TO IT AND I HAVE THREE TEENAGERS. SO IF I THINK SOMETHING'S LOUD, IT'S LOUD. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT I THINK. DEFINITELY OPPOSED. EVERYONE I SPOKE TO IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAD NO IDEA. AND AS OPPOSED. SO WE DID WHAT WE COULD. THANK YOU REAL QUICK.

DO YOU HAVE A PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE? USE SOMETHING ELSE YOU'D PREFER TO BE THERE.

ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T DO AUTOMOTIVE WORK RIGHT BEHIND MY IN MY BACKYARD, WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY ORIGINALLY ZONED FOR MAKES SENSE. MAKES SENSE FOR THE LOCATION TO HAVE IT PUSHED BACK FROM THE STREET. YOU ARE LITERALLY PUSHING IT RIGHT UP AGAINST THE HOUSES. SO IF IT WERE A BUILDING, A REGULAR OPERATIONAL BUILDING OF MEDICAL, WHAT IT WAS LIKE DAYCARE OR SOMETHING ELSE RIGHT THERE, NORMAL OPERATING HOURS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY WITH NO CAR NOISE AND TO SAY, OH, WELL, THERE'S GOING TO BE CAR STORE, NOT NO CAR STORAGE, BUT PEOPLE CAN DROP OFF THEIR CARS. WE MIGHT HAVE TO KEEP YOU OVER THE WEEKEND. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN A CAR AUTO SHOP. I'VE NEVER SEEN THE PARKING LOT EMPTY, EVEN AT A CHRISTIAN BROTHERS. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT.

IF YOU'RE HERE THIS EVENING AND WISH TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, KINDLY APPROACH.

KINDLY STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YEAH, MYSELF. HUSSEIN SHEIKH, ADDRESS IS 9979 VIRGINIA PARKWAY. I AM THE I OWN THE IT IS A PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF VIRGINIA AND INDEPENDENCE PARKWAY. I ATTENDED THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING IN. THE LAST TIME I SAW THE. THEIR PLAN AND EXECUTION AND EVERYTHING. I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. I DON'T SEE ANY CONCERN SO THAT. I MEAN, ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS. THEY ARE SAYING THAT THERE ARE ALREADY 2 OR 3 MECHANIC SHOPS. BUT AS WE SEE THE GROWING THE COMMUNITY, THOSE ARE NOT ENOUGH. SO I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S VERY CLOSE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND VERY CONVENIENT. AND THERE WILL BE NO NOISE AS COMPARED TO THE OTHER BUSINESSES. SO YEAH, I'M VERY POSITIVE. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. OH YOU'RE GOOD. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. IF YOU'RE HERE THIS EVENING AND WISH TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, KINDLY APPROACH. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE, WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WATLEY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONRAD. KINDLY CAST YOUR VOTE REGARDING CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH, THAT MOTION CARRIES. A PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. DO WE HAVE A MOTION REGARDING THE ITEM ITSELF? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR LUCAS OR DESTINY. THANK YOU. I REMEMBER WHO IT WAS. THE C TWO ZONING.

THAT'S THE EXISTING. REMIND ME. I WAS JUST TRYING TO LOOK IT UP. I HADN'T FOUND IT YET. WHAT ARE SOME OF THE PERMITTED USES ON THAT C TWO PERMITTED BY RIGHT AND PERMITTED BY CPR2 DIFFERENT THINGS. UNFORTUNATELY OUR TABLE OF USES IS VERY LONG, SO I DON'T TOTALLY KNOW IT OFF THE

[01:15:03]

TOP OF MY HEAD. IN GENERAL, I GUESS WE DO RETAIL. THEY COULD DO RESTAURANT HELP ME RESTAURANT. WAS THAT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH OR JUST WITH THE DRIVE THROUGH WOULD NEED AN SUP, ESPECIALLY WITH RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY. THAT CLOSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AN SUP IN ORDER TO APPROVE IT. I AM ACTUALLY GOING TO TAG IN JAKE SINCE HE HAS BEEN HERE WAY LONGER THAN I HAVE GOT IT MEMORIZED. YEAH, YEAH, IT WOULD REQUIRE AN SUP IF THEY DO HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH COMPONENT FOR RESTAURANT, BUT SIT DOWN RESTAURANT AGAIN, USES LIKE THAT WOULD ATTRACT A LOT MORE CARS THAN WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED WITH THIS USE HERE. RIGHT.

OFFICE. MEDICAL OFFICE. YEAH. REALLY ANY OF THOSE JUST GENERAL COMMERCIAL TYPE USES THAT YOU THINK OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY SAID, THE SITE SAT VACANT FOR QUITE A LONG TIME. I MEAN, YOU HAVE CUSTER THAT'S CLOSE BY. THAT DOES HAVE A LOT OF HIGHER IMPACT COMMERCIAL TYPE USES. RIGHT. AND SO THIS SITE SAT VACANT SINCE THE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE DEVELOPED AROUND THIS IS THE C TWO IS A LITTLE BIT HEAVIER COMMERCIAL USE THAN LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USE. THAT'S RIGHT. SO C TWO IS JUST A STEP BEYOND C ONE WHERE C ONE IT'S REALLY JUST RETAIL. MAYBE DAYCARE OFFICE REAL LOW INTENSITY C TWO IS JUST A STEP BEYOND THAT. IT ALLOWS A LITTLE BIT TALLER OF A HEIGHT WHICH DOESN'T REALLY PERTAIN TO THIS PROJECT SINCE SINCE IT'S JUST ONE STORY, BUT IT DOES HAVE A COUPLE ADDITIONAL USES COMPARED TO C ONE. SO OKAY, LET'S SEE. OH, AND THE THE NOISE ISSUE IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IF THEY ARE EXCEEDING A CERTAIN LEVEL, THAT THERE COULD CODE COMPLIANCE WOULD STEP IN? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

SO AS WITH ALL USES IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, THE NOISE ORDINANCE IS OUTSIDE OF OUR ZONING ORDINANCE. RIGHT. BUT IN FOR ANY USE, IF THE APPROPRIATE NOISE ALLOWANCES ARE NOT ALLOWED OR ARE EXCEEDED, THEN THAT'S A CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE. THEY CAN THEY CAN CITE THE TENANT, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY FOR ANY VIOLATIONS. OKAY. I THINK IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS ARE DURING THE DAY FOR THIS PROPOSED USE. AND SO DIFFERENT DECIBEL LEVELS AT DIFFERENT TIMES OF DAY, QUIET HOURS AND ALL THOSE THINGS. YEAH, THEY'RE PERMITTED HOURS. I CHECKED EARLIER, I ALSO CHECKED THE DECIBELS, WHICH WE DO HAVE IN CODE, HAS IT IN THEIR CODE OF ORDINANCES. THEY'RE VERY THOROUGH. THEY CAN, THEY CANNOT EXCEED 70DB. AND THEN THEIR OPERATING HOURS HAVE TO BE BETWEEN 7 A.M. AND 6 P.M. OKAY.

WHICH IS THEIR EXACT OPERATING HOURS. OKAY. YEAH, A COUPLE OF THINGS. SO BECAUSE I THINK IT, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO SAID IT, BUT SOMEONE HAD SAID THAT THAT NO OTHER COMMERCIAL OR NO, NO OTHER RESTAURANTS WOULD GO HERE. IT'S BEEN SITTING HERE FOR SO LONG. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THIS IS INTERSECTION OF TWO MAJOR THOROUGHFARES. THE REASON WHY IT'S JUST BEING DEVELOPED NOW IS BECAUSE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO USUALLY FOLLOW THE ROOFTOPS.

AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE 121 IN CUSTER ROAD, WHICH ARE TWO, YOU KNOW, REGIONAL ARTERIALS, SLASH HIGHWAYS, YOU KNOW, THE COMMERCIAL GROWTH IS GOING TO START THERE AND EXPAND OUTWARDS.

AND SO THE C TWO ZONING, IN MY OPINION, IS COMPLETELY APPROPRIATE BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU'RE AT THE CORNER OF TWO MAJOR INTERSECTIONS. AND SO IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, IF IT WERE ME, I WOULD MUCH PREFER TO HAVE THIS USE, WHICH DOESN'T OPERATE ON THE WEEKENDS WHEN MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE HOME. LIKE THE THE LADY STATED DURING HER PRESENTATION, THIS IS NOT A.

THIS ISN'T A USE THAT PEOPLE JUST DRIVE PAST AND SAY, OH, I WANT TO STOP AT A AT A CHRISTIAN AUTO BROTHERS, IT'S A DESTINATION LOCATION. SO PEOPLE COME WITH THAT INTENT ALREADY IN MIND, WHICH MEANS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC CONGESTION THAT YOU DO WHEN PEOPLE ARE KIND OF TRYING TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH RESTAURANT THEY WANT TO EAT AT, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, EVEN SOME, YOU KNOW, LIGHTER COMMERCIAL USES, SUCH AS OFFICE OR. I CAN'T THINK OF ANOTHER RETAIL IS NOT A LIGHT ONE, BUT ALL OF THOSE ARE GOING TO HAVE HIGHER TRAFFIC COUNTS, IN MY OPINION. AND FROM ALL STATISTICS THAT I'VE SEEN. SO, I MEAN, I REALLY THINK IT'S IT'S AN APPROPRIATE USE. AND. I'VE NEVER USED A CHRISTIAN

[01:20:06]

BROTHERS PERSONALLY, BUT BEING IN, IN THE, THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY, THEY'VE ALWAYS HAD AN IMPECCABLE REPUTATION. YOU DON'T STICK AROUND FOR 42 YEARS BY NOT YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THERE'S ALWAYS SOME BAD ACTORS, BUT BY AND LARGE, I MEAN, I THINK THEY'RE RAN PRETTY WELL AND PROFESSIONALLY. SO I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUES. OKAY. DESTINY. THE SIDE AND THE REAR SETBACKS ARE WHAT IS ALLOWED. BUT PER THE C TWO ZONING. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THERE'S NO VARIANCES THERE. AND THE SOUTH WALL THAT FACES THE THE HOUSES THAT'S A SOLID THAT'S A SOLID WALL. THERE'S NO BAYS OR ENTRANCES OR ANYTHING. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S GOING TO BE JUST THERE BACK WALL OF THEIR BUILDING, BACK THE SIDE FACADE. OKAY. YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF TIMES TONIGHT. WELL, THIS MAKES THE SECOND TIME TONIGHT THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT NOISE LEVEL. AND I REMEMBER ON THE CORNER OF LAKE FOREST AND VIRGINIA, WE TALKED ABOUT NOISE LEVEL, ABOUT THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WANTED TO GO THERE. AND IT KIND OF CAME TO THE FACT THAT NOISE LEVEL IS IF IT GOT LOUD ENOUGH FOR THEM TO CALL THE POLICE AND COMPLAIN, THEN WE MOVED ON IT. SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE NOISE LEVEL, BUT THERE'S A CHRISTIAN BROTHERS OWNED EL DORADO JUST WEST OF HARDIN, AND I LOVE THAT LOCATION BECAUSE IT'S BETWEEN A TACO BUENO AND A CAR WASH. YEAH. AND SO IT'S GOT A LOT OF BUFFERING THERE. I'M NOT IN LOVE WITH THIS LOCATION FOR, BUT THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION. I'LL SAY 1 OR 2 OF THE RESIDENTS HAD SHARED. MISS BULLOCK AND MR. SHEIKH HAD SHARED THAT THIS LOCATION IS ALREADY IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO TWO OTHER AUTO REPAIR. THE DRIVE TIME, WHICH I BELIEVE IS MORE OF A QUICK SERVE AND THEN FURTHER EAST IS LEGENDARY AUTOMOTIVE. SO LEGENDARY, I KNOW HAS EXPANDED THEIR FOOTPRINT TO ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THE SERVICE NEEDS. SO I DO FEEL LIKE THERE IS ALWAYS A NEED FOR ANOTHER AUTO REPAIR PLACE. BUT HOWEVER, WITHIN A HALF MILE FROM THIS CORNER YOU ALSO HAVE AERO COUNTRY AIRPORT. AND SO I DON'T REALLY SEE THE CHRISTIAN BROTHERS ESTABLISHMENT BEING LOUDER THAN THE AIRPLANES THAT ARE PROBABLY FLYING OVER THIS RESIDENTIAL AND THE GOLF COURSE, WESTRIDGE, WHICH I KNOW BECAUSE I PLAYED ALL THE TIME, AND AIRPLANES FLY OVER US WHEN WE PLAY. BUT I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF THE NOISE IS GOING TO BE LOUDER THAN PLANES THAT YOU ALREADY PROBABLY HEAR. YEAH. GOOD POINT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MISS REYNOLDS? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM BY COMMISSIONER CRAIG AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCWILLIAMS TO APPROVE THE ITEM. KINDLY CAST YOUR VOTE. OKAY. AND THE MOTION PASSES. 5 TO 2. THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WILL BE FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION AT THE NOVEMBER 3RD, 2026 MEETING. OKAY. NEXT

[26-0117Z Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Zone the Subject Property to “I1” - Light Industrial District, Located Approximately 420 Feet East of Enloe Road and Approximately 4,940 Feet South of East University Drive (U.S. 380)]

ITEM ON THE AGENDA. ITEM 26-0117Z. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACT ON A REQUEST TO ZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO I-1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 420FT EAST OF ENLOE ROAD AND APPROXIMATELY 4940FT SOUTH OF EAST UNIVERSITY DRIVE. US 380. MR. BENNETT, YES, THANK YOU AGAIN. SO THE FINAL THREE CASES, THEY'RE ALL VERY SIMILAR. THEY'RE ALL IN ONE LOCATION, KIND OF EAST OF OUR AIRPORT. YOU MAY REMEMBER BACK TO MARCH AND APRIL, WE HAD, I THINK SEVEN PRE ANNEXATION PROPERTIES THAT WE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU. THESE ARE ALL PRE ANNEXATION AGREEMENTS FROM 2016. THE TERM IS UP AFTER TEN YEARS.

AND THEN WE AS THE CITY HAVE THE ABILITY TO ZONE AND ANNEX THEM INTO THE CITY, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT WITH THREE ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES. ALL OF THEM ARE I-1.

IT MEETS THE INTENT OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. OUR MEDC EVEN OWNS SOME OF THIS PROPERTY AND PROPERTIES THAT ARE, OR PARCELS THAT ARE OWNED BY OTHER OWNERS. THEY'RE ACTUALLY ASKING

[01:25:06]

US TO GET THIS THROUGH THE PROCESS AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO START SOME DEVELOPMENT OVER HERE. SO WITH THAT, I'LL KIND OF WALK THROUGH THIS FIRST CASE. THE OTHER TWO ARE GOING TO BE VERY SIMILAR, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE AS WE GO THROUGH THEM. AND SO THESE ARE ALL, LIKE I SAID, KIND OF EAST NORTHEAST OF THE AIRPORT. THIS FIRST PROPERTY IS VERY HEAVILY IN THE FLOODPLAIN. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO, OR THE FUTURE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING TO RECLAIM PORTIONS OF THIS AND BRING SOME FILL FROM THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY HERE. NOTED AS THE AVIATION PLACE TYPE, AS WELL AS EMPLOYMENT MIX AND MANUFACTURING, WAREHOUSING, ALL THINGS THAT ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE AND LINE UP WITH OUR I-1 ZONING DISTRICT DISTRICT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. AS YOU CAN SEE CURRENTLY IN THE ETJ. AND THEN PROPERTIES AROUND IT. YOU SEE, WE'VE ALREADY GOT I-1 ESTABLISHED HERE. THOSE ARE THOSE LINE UP EXACTLY. WITH I-1. THEY CORRESPOND TO THAT TODAY THAT PD TO THE NORTH NORTHEAST, THAT IS ACTUALLY THE LANDFILL ZONED FOR INDUSTRIAL USES AND ALLOWS A TYPE FOUR LANDFILL THERE. AND THEN AIRPORT, WHICH IS THE AP, KIND OF SLIGHTLY DARKER, GRAY NOTED ON HERE, OF COURSE, AIRPORT TYPE USES, BUT ALSO MANUFACTURING AND WAREHOUSING WITHIN THAT DISTRICT AS WELL. AND THEN THIS IS KIND OF AN OVERALL MAP OF EACH OF THE THREE PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY. THE CASE NUMBERS NOTE ON HERE ARE FROM THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THEMSELVES. SO THAT 16-020 THAT IS THE PROPERTY WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT IS JUST SHY OF 400 ACRES. IT'S ABOUT 398 AND SOME CHANGE. AND THE OTHER PROPERTIES ARE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF IT AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. JAY, CAN YOU TOUCH ON THE THE ROADWAY IDENTIFIED RUNNING NORTH SOUTH AND WHAT THAT FUTURE CONNECTIVITY LOOKS LIKE? YEAH.

OF COURSE. SO THAT THE BIG WHITE ONE THAT IS SPUR 399 SO IT'S COMING LOOPING UP. CAN'T REALLY SEE IT ON HERE, BUT LOOPING FROM DOWN SOUTHWEST OF HERE. STRAIGHT UP NORTH. AND THEN EVENTUALLY WE'LL HAVE A CONNECTION WITH THE 380 BYPASS. OKAY, SO MAJOR FREEWAY CUTTING THROUGH HERE. EVERYTHING SOUTH OF HERE WE'RE ANTICIPATING IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TYPE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. AND EVEN THOUGH IT IS MAINLY FLOODPLAIN, THEY'RE WANTING TO GO AHEAD AND DO STRAIGHT TO LEE TO JUST TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS RATHER THAN DOING AG AND THEN THE LINE.

THAT'S CORRECT. SO YEAH, WE DECIDED TO GO WITH, WITH THE I ONE. I'M SORRY. YEAH. NO YOU'RE GOOD. WE DECIDED TO GO WITH THE I ONE JUST BECAUSE IT LINES UP WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

BACK IN MARCH AND APRIL. WE DID HAVE SOME PROPERTIES THAT, YES, WE ZONED A COUPLE AG AND SEE WHAT THEY DEVELOP AS. AND THEY'D HAVE TO REZONE IN THE FUTURE. OTHER ONES THAT LINED UP WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND WE, YOU KNOW, HAD SOME INTENT FROM PROPERTY OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS. WE WENT WITH C TWO AND A COUPLE OF LOCATIONS. WE WENT WITH I ONE AND A COUPLE LOCATIONS. I THINK WE MAY HAVE EVEN DONE R 12 AS WELL. SO ALL THREE OF THESE FALL WITHIN AN AREA THAT WE ANTICIPATE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING WITH THOSE. OKAY. THE CITY IS THE APPLICANT. SO WE I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE HERE, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. JAKE. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR MR. BENNETT? SO IS HE GOING TO COME BACK TWO MORE TIMES? YEP. OKAY. IT'S GOOD. JAKE.

DON'T GET TOO COMFORTABLE. OKAY. SO THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. IF YOU ARE HERE AND YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, KINDLY APPROACH. SEEING AS THERE'S NONE, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CRAIG TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TO APPROVE THIS ITEM. SECOND, TY, WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH. TY, COMMISSIONER KASIM. KINDLY CAST YOUR VOTE. OKAY. THAT MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY, SEVEN ZERO, AND IT WILL BE FORWARDED TO

[26-0118Z Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Zone the Subject Property to “I1” - Light Industrial District, Located Approximately 810 Feet North of FM 546 and on the West Side of County Road 722]

CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION AT THE NOVEMBER 3RD, 2026 MEETING. NEXT ITEM. ITEM 26-0118Z. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS. ACT ON A REQUEST TO ZONE THE

[01:30:02]

SUBJECT PROPERTY TO I-1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 810FT NORTH OF FM 546 AND ON THE WEST SIDE OF COUNTY ROAD. 722 YEP, EXACT SAME THING. THIS PROPERTY IS A LITTLE BIT SOUTH OF THE ONE WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT, SO IT'S GOING TO BE THAT 16-022. AGAIN, STRAIGHT I-1 WILL BE COUPLED WITH AN ANNEXATION WHEN IT GOES TO COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL THERE. YOU CAN SEE MORE OF THE ROADWAY. YES. YEAH YEAH. THAT CONNECTS ALL THE WAY THROUGH. CAN YOU TOUCH FOR THE NEW TERMINAL IS IN RELATION TO THIS PIECE. YEAH OF COURSE. SO THE NEW TERMINAL AND YOU PROBABLY WILL BE ABLE TO SEE IT ON THE ONE OF THESE AERIALS JUST SOUTHWEST OF HERE. IT DOES TOUCH THE BOUNDARY THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED A P WITH FUTURE EXPANSION OF THE AIRPORT, PROBABLY NORTH AND EAST OF HERE. AND THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT THE MEDICI CURRENTLY OWNS RIGHT NOW. ALL RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR JAKE? APPLICANT CITY AGAIN. YEAH. OF COURSE THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. SO IF YOU'RE HERE THIS EVENING AND WISH TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, KINDLY APPROACH. OKAY.

SEEING IS THERE NONE. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KASIM TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CRAIG. YOU GUYS JUST FLIP FLOPPING OVER HERE. KINDLY CAST YOUR VOTE. THAT MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY 7 TO 0 AND WILL BE FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION AT THE NOVEMBER 3RD, 2026 MEETING. OKAY. OUR

[26-0119Z Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Zone the Subject Property to “I1” - Light Industrial District, Located on the Northeast Corner of Enloe Road and County Road 327]

FINAL ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM 26-00. SORRY, 26-0119Z. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACT ON A REQUEST TO ZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO I-1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF ENLOE ROAD AND COUNTY ROAD. 327 MR. BENNETT YEP. SO THIS IS THE MIDDLE PROPERTY HERE, 16-028I1. AGAIN, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL COUPLED WITH AN ANNEXATION WHEN IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY ACRES THIS PROPERTY HAS? THIS. THIS ONE IS JUST SHY OF 150 LISTED ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PAGE THERE. YEP. THIS ONE'S JUST SHY OF 150 OR I THINK THE CALCULATION IS RIGHT AT 150 HERE. I DIDN'T MENTION IT ON THE LAST ITEM, BUT IT WAS RIGHT AROUND 175. YEAH, I DIDN'T SEE IT. I'M SORRY. SO ABOUT 725 ACRES TOTAL WILL BE ANNEXED IN.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. BENNETT. THANK YOU. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT. IF YOU'RE HERE THIS EVENING AND YOU WISH TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, KINDLY APPROACH. OKAY. SEEING AS THERE ARE NONE, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HAMMACK TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM. I SECOND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CRAIG.

KINDLY CAST YOUR VOTE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY, 7 TO 0, AND IT WILL BE FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION AT THE NOVEMBER 3RD, 2026 MEETING. AT THIS TIME, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA? THE COMMISSION AND OR

[COMMISSION AND STAFF COMMENTS]

STAFF HAVE ANY COMMENTS? CONGRATULATIONS TO COMMISSIONER CRAIG OR VICE CHAIR CRAIG. LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING AND HAVING YOU SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY. THANK YOU, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING HERE. LIKEWISE. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN MEETING. SO MOVED. ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CONRAD. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HAMMOCK. KYLIE, CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION IS UNANIMOUS, 7 TO 0. WE

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

Oct 13, 2026 Planning & Zoning Commission

Link

Social

Embed

Download

Download Selected Item