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EVENING AT SIX PM, WELCOME TO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY'S. LANDING ZONE, A COMMISSION OF TUESDAY
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AUGUST 25TH 2020 THE COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU SEE SEATED BEFORE YOU HAVE BEEN APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. WE SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THAT SAME CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU HERE TONIGHT, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT HIS OWN OUR AGENDA ONE. WE'RE GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE. AND TWO BEFORE YOU COME TO THE PODIUM IF YOU'LL FILL OUT A YELLOW CARD. THAT IS ON THE TABLE OUTSIDE THE ROOM. AND THEN HAND THAT TOO. A STAFF MEMBER ON ONE OF THE FRONT ROW SEATS WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. IN THE ITEM THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING ON.WE ARE GLAND THAT YOU'RE HERE. ALL YOU HAVE TO SAY IS IMPORTANT TO US, AND IT WILL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL IS PART OF OUR MINUTES. TONIGHT. WE DO HAVE AN ITEM THAT IS HAS A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE TABLE. BUT IF YOU HEARD IT, NOT AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. YOU'RE CERTAINLY MORE THAN WELCOME TO DO THAT. WITH THAT WE'LL START ARJUN IT THE FIRST TIME WOULD BE ANYONE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON A. ON AN AGENDA ITEM THAT DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED. LOOK, YOU'VE COME TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO SPEAK. ON AN ITEM THAT DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING NOW WOULD BE THE TIME. ALL RIGHT. NEXT TIME WOULD BE
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THE HAVING A DIRECTOR'S REPORT TONIGHT. IT'S OUR OWN. WHO'S WHO'S TAKING THIS? THAT'LL BE ME. THIS IS JUST AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM FOR THE COMMISSION. IF YOU RECALL AT THE END OF JULY, WE STARTED A NEW DIRECTORS REPORT. THE LAST MEETING OF EVERY MONTH. WE WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH THIS REPORT, WHICH JUST SUMMARIZES THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS THAT YOU ALL HAVE CONSIDERED THAT HAVE BEEN ULTIMATELY ACTED ON BY THE COUNCIL. SORRY, SHOULD BE MY LIKE THEY'RE SO. WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS INFORMATION FROM JANUARY THROUGH THE END OF AUGUST, AND THE ACTIONS THAT WERE TAKEN ON THOSE ITEMS IF YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE TO ANSWER THEM OTHERWISE. ENJOY THAT FOR YOUR READING PLEASURE. ENJOY THAT FOR YOUR READING. PLEASURE. YOU CAN QUOTE THAT VERY GOOD. OKAY. THE NEXT TIME WOULD BE ACTUALLY ON[CONSENT ITEMS]
OUR CONSENT AGENDA. THERE WOULD BE 20-0722 MINUTES. THE PEONS REGULAR MEETING OF AUGUST 11 2020 TO HAVE EMOTIONS WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AUGUST LITTLE 2020 MEETING MINUTES.OCEAN BY MR HECKLER TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE 2020 OF THE AUGUST 11 2020 PNC MEETING. 2ND 2ND BY MR MAN'S EYES OR ANY DISCUSSION. HE'S CAST YOUR VOTES. MOTION CARRIES THE CONSIDERED IT A HAS BEEN IMPROVED. THE NEXT ITEM WILL BE OUR REGULAR JENNA. THIS IS A
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Variance to a Site Plan for McKinney Fire Station No. 11, Located on the Northwest Corner of Van Tuyl Parkway and Rundell Way (REQUEST TO BE TABLED)]
ITEM THAT DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED. IT'S ITEM. 20 S P. PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A VARIANCE OF SCIENCE PLAN FOR MCKINNEY FIRE STATION NUMBER 11 DANCES AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF VAN TYL PARKWAY. AND RUN, DALE WAY. MISS GIVEN GOOD EVENING. I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE NOTE THAT I DID PASS OUT, A COMMENT FROM A CITIZEN THAT WAS SUBMITTED IS NOT REGARDING THE VARIANCE REQUEST. HOWEVER, IT IS REGARDING THE SITE PLAN. I DID SEND THAT TO PATRICIA JACKSON AMAR APPLE STAND, SO SHE IS A PAIR OF THAT COMMENT. STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING BE CLOSED AND ITEM BE TABLED INDEFINITELY. STAFF WAS ABLE TO WORK WITH THE APPLE CAN'T TO NO LONGER ASK FOR A VARIANCE REQUEST, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT AND TO BE TABLED. QUESTIONS OF STAFF. ONE MORE APPLICANT. YOU SIT APPLICANT IS HERE. SHE'S NOT HERE. OKAY? VERY GOOD. FORGET THIS ITEM WILL BE TABLED. BUT IF YOU HAVE MADE THE EFFORT TO BE HERE. AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK YOU. CERTAINLY WELCOME TO MISS MORRIS. OR MISS MORRIS HERE, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO SPEAK. YOUR LETTER WILL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THE SUN AND WOULD BE TABLE AND IT WILL COME BACK UP AT SOME POINT. VERY GOOD. OKAY? OKAY? YOUR LETTER WILL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL'S THIS PART OF OUR MINUTES. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE DO NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS. WE NEED EMOTION, TOO CLOSE AND TABLE INDEFINITELY. MOVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE OF THE ITEM INDEFINITELY.OSHIMA MR MANSARD CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE. THE OTTOMAN DEFINITELY. TAKE A MOMENT TO TAYLOR. THE NEXT ONE. EYES THERE. ANY DISCUSSION? HE'S CAST YOUR VOTES. MOTION CARRIES
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ABOUT VOTE OF SEVEN IN FAVOR ZERO AGAINST ITEM WILL BE TABLED INDEFINITELY. AGAIN.THANKS FOR BEING HERE. NEXT ITEM. 20-00 Z PUBLIC HEARING. TO CONSIDER RE ZONE OF THE
[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Request to Rezone the Subject Property from “PD” - Planned Development District to "C3" - Regional Commercial District, Located on the Southwest Corner of U.S. Highway 75 (Central Expressway) and Virginia Parkway]
SUBJECT. PROPERTY FROM P D DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO SEE THREE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. THIS IS AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF U. S. HIGHWAY 75 JUNIOR PARKWAY, MR MOSS. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONER'S. JO MA SPLATTER ONE WITH CITY MCKINNEY. UH, THIS SITE IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF VIRGINIA AND 75. ON THE SITE IS BORDERED BY SINGLE FAMILY USES TO THE REAR COMMERCIAL USES TO THE NORTH AND EAST AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. THERE IS A. COMMERCIAL ZONING IN PLACE WITH AN ACTIVE PROJECT CURRENTLY FOR MCKINNEY, DODGE. HE WAS KIND OF A LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING AREA. ALONG VIRGINIA AND THEN ON 75 THERE. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO SEE THREE, WHICH IS A REGIONAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. THIS IS THE MOST INTENSE OF OUR COMMERCIAL DISTRICT'S GIVEN THE LOCATION AT THE INTERSECTION OF TWO MAJOR ROADWAYS STAFF IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE LEVEL OF INTENSITY. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES CALL FOR A PROFESSIONAL CAMPUS PLACE TYPE IN THIS AREA. HOWEVER THERE IS SOME DECISION MAKING CRITERIA FOR NON CONFORMING REQUESTS. IN THIS CASE STAFF FEELS THIE REQUESTED ZONING. ADVANCES, THE DISTRICT'S INTENT AND DEMONSTRATES COMPATIBILITY WITH THE DISTRICT'S BRAND AND IDENTITY. SO I DO STAFF ARE IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AND I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF. THIS UNDERSEA THREE WILL YOU HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED FOR THE PUBLIC? YOU BET. I'VE GOT A LIST HERE. I CAME VERY PREPARED. ALL RIGHT.SO IT IS OUR NATURAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. SO YOU'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT IT, IT COULD BE OFFICE USES. IT COULD BE RETAIL USES. YOU COULD HAVE ANYTHING FROM A DRIVE THE RESTAURANT TO A CAR DEALERSHIP. ADMITTEDLY, A LOT OF THESE USES WOULD HAVE THAT CPS ATTACKS, ESPECIALLY AUTOMOTIVE USES. BUT, YOU KNOW, BANKS, OFFICE BUILDINGS. YOU COULD BUILD ANOTHER HOSPITAL THERE. IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT CURRENT ZONING UNDER THE PROPOSED ZONING AS WELL, SO THERE'S A WIDE VARIETY OF USE IS AVAILABLE IN THIS DISTRICT. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS, STAFF. QUESTIONS ON THE PHYSICAL IMPACT MODEL. MORE GENERAL RELATED, THEN RELATED TO THIS PROJECT OVERALL. I WANT TO START WITH IS THIS. SOMETHING THAT'S REQUIRED BY LAW. IS THIS SOMETHING? THE CIVILITY? YOU SIMPLY CITY DOES. WHAT IS THE INTENT OF THIS MODEL? YES, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO JENNIFER ON THIS. I KNOW SHE HAS BEEN LOOKING AT THIS. A LITTLE MORE GREATER DETAIL. HAPPY TO DO THAT? YES. SO THE FISCAL MODEL IS A TOOL FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IN THE CITY COUNCIL. IT'S NOT REQUIRED BY STATE LAW, BUT ONE OF THE SORT OF UNDERLYING QUESTIONS THAT WE OFTEN GET WHEN CONSIDERING A REZONING CHANGE. IT'S WELL. WHAT'S THE IMPACT TO THE CITY'S BUDGET FOR THAT? SO. THE FISCAL MODEL THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TODAY IS RELATIVELY NEW. WE LAUNCHED IT AFTER THE 2018 1 MCKINNEY 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS ADOPTED, SO WE'VE ONLY BEEN USING IT SINCE ABOUT JANUARY. ANDI, IT'S REALLY BROKEN UP INTO TWO MAIN PARTS. SO THE TOP HALF OF THAT MODEL IN GREEN AND I'M GLAD YOU GOT THAT AT MR MAN'S EYE, SO I CAN KIND OF SNEAK A PEEK AT IT THAT THE TOP HALF SORT OF THAT GREEN OR BLUE COLOR IS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT BUDGET IMPACTS. ESTIMATES FOR OPERATING REVENUES, POTENTIAL VALUES POTENTIAL NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES. SO LET'S TAKE IT WHILE WE'RE UP THERE IN THAT TOP HAT. WHAT IS ACTUALLY INCLUDED IN REVENUES AND EXPENSES OF REVENUES AND EXPENSES, SO THE FISCAL MODEL IS JUST THAT. IT'S A SERIOUS OF ASSUMPTIONS. WE WORKED WITH AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT FIRM WORKER CUNNINGHAM TO DEVELOP IT. SO THEY TOOK INTO ACCOUNT NATIONAL STANDARDS STANDARDS ON DH MADE A LEVEL OF ASSUMPTIONS BASED ON USES. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR EXPENSES. IT'S ALL BASED ON A PER CAPITA ASSUMPTION. SO FOR US IS A STAFF WHEN WE'RE DEVELOPING THAT FISCAL MODEL ARE PLUGGING IN THE NUMBERS THING THAT WE LOOK AT IS THE SIZE OF THE TRACT. WE LOOK AT THE REQUESTED ZONING THAT THEY'RE GOING INTO.
SO IN THIS CASE, IT WAS C THREE COMMERCIAL. WE LOOK AT THE FLOOR AREA RATIO THAT'S WITHIN
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OUR ORDINANCE FOR THAT TO DETERMINE. WHAT AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE COULD POTENTIALLY BE BUILT THERE. THERE ARE SOME DEVELOPMENTS. EFFICIENCIES BUILT IN AS WELL.WE RECOGNIZE THAT A FULL 11 ACRES ISN'T GOING TO DEVELOP 100. THERE'S GONNA BE SOME NEED FOR STREETS PARKING INTO THAT'S PRODUCED OUT AND THAT THOSE MULTIPLIERS GENERATE AN ESTIMATED NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET FOR DEVELOPMENT. THEN WE TAKE THOSE ESTIMATED NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET FOR DEVELOPMENT, AND WE MULTIPLY THEM BY OUR TAX RATE THEY WENT THROUGH AND MULTIPLY IT BY THE CITY'S PROPERTY TAX RATE, OUR SALES TAX RATES. ANOTHER POTENTIAL TAX RATES. I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THEM OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD IN ORDER TO GET AN ESTIMATE ON WHAT THE POTENTIAL REVENUES GENERATED COULD BE. SO THE DEVELOPMENT VALUE PUT DOWN BELOW THE 1 80 PER SQUARE FOOT IS BASED ON A RATIO ALLOWING KNOW THAT SOME OF IT'S NOT GONNA FULLY ABSOLUTELY. BUT IS THE REVENUE DRIVED OFF A TAX RATE BASED ON THAT DEVELOPMENT VALUE BELOW MY QUESTION THERE IS WE'VE GOT DEVELOPMENT VALUE OF 54 MILLION ROUGHLY, AND THE OTHER PROPOSED 1 72 MILLION. THIS'S 11.5 ACRES. IF YOU TAKE THE TARGET CENTER AT 75, 3 80 YOU TAKE CLOSE TARGET ALL THAT BIG IN LINE SPACE THERE. THAT IS 46 ACRES ONLY TAXED AT 47 MILLION IF YOU TAKE STONE BRIDGE IN VIRGINIA STONEBRIDGE CROSSING YOU TAKE THE GOODYEAR BBB A PANDA EXPRESS THE MACDONALDS, THE WHOLE TOM THUMB CENTER. YOU'RE COMING BACK DOWN TO 21 MAJOR, AND IT'S SIX TEENAGERS, SO IT JUST SEEMS TO ME LIKE HE'S DEVELOPMENT VALUES THAT WERE DRIVING REVENUE OFF ARE NOT ACTUALLY PICTURING WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET IN TAX REVENUE. ABSOLUTELY, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CERTAINLY GO AND LOOK INTO. AND IN FACT WE HAD TO DO SOME TWEAKING TO THE MODEL WITH THIS ONE AS WELL BECAUSE IT CAME BACK VERY HIGH THE FIRST TIME AROUND, SO WE CALIBRATED IT DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT. WE CAN CERTAINLY GO IN AND LOOK AT THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT ARE FOLDED INTO THE MODEL TO MAKE SURE THAT. WE ARE ACCURATELY REPRESENTING IT. IT IS JUST THAT IT'S A SIRI'S OF ASSUMPTIONS TO GENERATE A PREDICTED VALUE. THE. YES, THE PRO IN THE CON THE PRO IS THAT IT MAY BE INFLATED ITS BUT IT'S GONNA BE INFLATED FOR ALL THREE THAT YOU'RE EVALUATING. SO THEY'RE AN APPLE STAFFERS COMPARISON BETWEEN THE PROPOSED EXISTING IN THE 2040 PLACE TYPE THAT YOU SEE. SO THAT'S THAT'S GREAT IN TERMS OF COMPARISON IN TERMS OF WHAT THIS CITY COULD ACTUALLY EXPECT TO GENERATE ON THE GROUND. IF IT'S TO HIDE, THAT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM. AND SO WE CAN GO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT OVER SHOOTING THAT IN THESE ASSUMPTIONS. I'M JUST WONDERING IF MOHR. COMPARABLES AS APPRAISER WOULD DO WITHIN A LOCAL MARKET IS MORE ACHIEVABLE RECORD, THEN THE NATIONAL ASSUMPTIONS THAT WERE CREATED HERE OR NOT WELL, AND I THINK THAT'S A FAIR COMMENT ON GUY KNOW THAT WITH RYKER CUNNINGHAM. THEY DO WE DO MORE THAN JUST THE NATIONAL NATIONAL AVERAGE. THAT'S WHERE THEY START AND IF THEY'RE ABLE TO LOOK AT A MARKET COMPARISON. WE DEFINITELY TRYING CALIBRATED TO THE TEXAS MARKET OR EVEN THE NORTH TEXAS REGION, BUT IT MAY JUST BE THAT THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT'S OVERSHOT. AND SO WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. IT ALSO IN THE FUTURE, JUST LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE TOTAL EMPLOYMENT PLAYS INTO HOW THIS RATES OUT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IN OFFICE PROJECT HAVING 1200 EMPLOYEES COMPARED TO A RETAIL IT FOR 65, THEN THE COMPARISON OF AH. OFTHIS. WHAT THOSE TYPICAL JOB WOULD PAY ON AVERAGE COMPARED TO A RETAIL DEVELOPMENT 1200 JOBS TO THAT. JUST HOW THAT WORKS IN THE MALL, OKAY? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF. THANK YOU, MR MAN'S IVORY MUCH. JOE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY FOR ANYTHING. ORGANISE OUR APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MATT MOHR CLAIM OR ENGINEERING 301.
SOUTH COLEMAN PROSPER TAXES. HERE, NOT ON BEHALF OF PERSPECTIVE. BUYER OF THE WIFE'S ON CAMPUS HAS JOE NOTED. WE'RE SIMPLY LOOKING FOR A STRAIGHT REZONE AT THIS POINT FROM THE EXISTING P D THAT ENCOMPASSES THE HOSPITAL TO A STRAIGHT C THREE. ATT. THIS POINT THERE IS NO FIRM DEVELOPMENT PLANS. WE'RE SIMPLY JUST TRYING TO MOVE THIS ALONG AND CLEAN UP THE ZONING AND GET SET UP FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE. SESSIONS OF MR MOORE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ADAM. IF YOU'D COME TONIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS PROPOSED REZONE THE FLOOR IS YOURS. ALL RIGHT. I'LL MAKE EMOTIONALLY CLOSED PUBLIC ARIAN APPROVED FOR STUFF RECOMMENDATION OF EMOTIONAL MR HECKLER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE OTTOMANS FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. SECOND ABOUT MR MCCALL. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. MOTION CARRIES 5/7 IN FAVOR. ZERO AGAINST THE ITEM WILL BE SENT TO CITY COUNCIL
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WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FOR FINAL ELECTION SEPTEMBER 15 2020 MEETING. MEMBERS THAT IS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. WE HAVE ANY. THANKS, MATT. UM, ANY COMMENTS? COOK IT ALL. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. I MISSED YOU GUYS. WE WISH YOU. IS ARNOLD. RIGHT STAFF. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. WE APPRECIATE IT WHEN THE FRAMING AT 6 23. SILLY MOVE. WE DID EMOTION TO ADJOURN, MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN EMOTIONAL, MR DOKE THAT WE ADJOURN. AH SECOND BY. MR MCCALL, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS AREN'T LEAVE THE ROOM. THAT MOTION CARRIES ITS 6 23 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.