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[2019 Impact Fee Update - Information Series Presentation #2]
WILL BE 190 HIM 5 2019 IMPACT FEE OF DATE. AARON. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONER COMMISSION MEMBERS. IT'S GOING TO BE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT. MY NAME IS AARON BLOXHAM ON THE LONG RANGE PLANNING MANAGER. IF YOU'LL RECALL. A FEW MONTHS AGO, WE HAD AN IMPACT THE UPDATE AND WE SAID, WE TOLD YOU THAT WE'D BE BACK IN A FEW WEEKS. THIS IS US COMING BACK FOR ROUND TWO WILL BE GIVING YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL IS. AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO TODAY. I'M JUST KIND OF WALKED THROUGH SOME OF THAT. GO INTO THE IMPACT FEES A LITTLE BIT IN GREATER DETAIL WITH YOU TONIGHT, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH. SPECIFICALLY THE ROADWAY IN UTILITY IMPACT FEE.CONSIDERATIONS AND OPTIONS SO. WITH THAT, AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EVERY TIME. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE THAT WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. IT'S A THREE STEP PROCESS. THE FIRST PART OF THAT PROCESS THAT LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS REALLY TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH WE WILL GROW.
MOVE INTO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLANNING. WE'LL TALK ABOUT A LOT OF NUMBERS TONIGHT THAT ARE RELATED TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLANNING SPECIFICALLY, REALLY, TO THE COST AND WHAT WE CAN CHARGE. IN THE LAST SECTION IS THE LAST STEP IS THE FI SETTING AN ORDINANCE ADOPTION AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE UPCOMING. ON. THIS IS JUST KIND OF ALL IN PREPARATION FOR THAT, SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS HOW WE GOT TO SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE BEGINNING TIO AND TO SEE SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT YOU'LL SEE.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT IMPACT FEES. IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLANNING FOR IT. UM, THIS IS STRICTLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HERE. IS THIS TRAGICALLY TECHNICAL. CALCULATION FOR ROADWAY IMPACT FEES WERE ABLE TO COLLECT $564 MILLION AND THAT'S JUST. FOR THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE ROADWAYS THAT WE NEED. THAT IS THE STRAIGHT COST OF THAT CALCULATION. IT'S $564 MILLION. LIKE I SAID, AND SO. BY STATE LAW. WE'RE NOT QUITE ABLE TO CHARGE THAT AND SO. WHAT STATE LAW DOES IS. HOUSES. LOOK AT THAT CALCULATION AND SAYS YOU'RE ALLOWED TO COLLECT A CERTAIN PORTION OF THAT $564 MILLION AND THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT 302 MILLION. SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION OR TAKE OUT DURING THAT PROCESS ARE THINGS LIKE ITEMS THAT AREN'T FOR GROWTH RIGHT CAUSE IMPACT FEES COULD ONLY BE CHARGED AS IT RELATES TO GROWTH. SO THEY TAKE OUT ANYTHING THAT'S NOT RELATED TO GROWTH IS PART OF THAT PLAN, AND IT KIND OF CUTS BACK THE NUMBER. ALSO, WE START TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS AND A CZ DEVELOPMENTS BUILD, THEY START PAYING TAXES. SO THAT'S ANOTHER PORTION THAT ALSO GETS KIND OF TAKEN OUT OF THIS BECAUSE. THEY DON'T WANT TO DOUBLE COUNT FOR ANY TAXES THAT ARE ACCOUNTED FOR IN THAT NUMBER. SO THAT WHITTLES IT DOWN AND WE COME UP WITH A RECOVERABLE COST OF THAT $302 MILLION. AND SO AS THE CITY STARTS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE $302 MILLION, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO COST. ALLOWED TO COLLECT PER STATE
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LAW. WE DECIDED TO LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, WHAT IS THE CITY GOING TO BUILD? WHAT COULD WE BUILD OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS? AND THAT WOULD BE PUBLICLY FUNDED AND SO WE STARTED TO LOOK THROUGH PROJECT BY PROJECT AND WE CAME UP WITH THIS. WHAT WE CALL THE ADJUSTABLE ADJUSTED RECOVERABLE COST, AND SO OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, WE REALLY THINK THAT WE'RE ONLY GOING TO BE. MEETING TO COLLECT ABOUT $163 MILLION IN IMPACT FEES TO HELP KIND OF COVER SOME OF THAT EXPANSION. TO COVER THOSE PROJECTS. AND SO. WE WANTED TO GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER IDEA OF WHAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY NEEDED IN THAT FEES. AND SO WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT WERE A PARTNER WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. AND SO IT ALSO HELPS US KIND OF UNDERSTAND. A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA BUILD. WHAT THE DEVELOPERS GOING BUILDING KIND OF THAT THAT RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE. AND SO THIS IS JUST THAT PUBLIC FUNDING COST OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS. AND SO AS WE KIND OF MOVED FORWARD. WE START TO LOOK AT RECOMMENDATIONS, SO WE GOT AN IDEA OF KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO CHARGE OR WHAT WE COULD CHARGE. AND WAS WHAT'S KIND OF FEASIBLE FOR THAT 10 YEAR COST REPUBLIC PROJECTS FOR CITY PROJECTS. WE SAY? WELL, WHAT ARE WE CHARGING? NOW? WHAT COULD WE COLLECT, AND SO WITH OUR CURRENT RATES WHEN YOU DO THAT CALCULATION, KIND OF OVER THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED, HOWEVER, THE NEXT 10 YEARS IT RELATES TO ABOUT $80 MILLION IS WHAT WE WOULD COLLECT IF WE WERE TO DO THAT. THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND THINGS THAT WE START TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. IS, YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD THE RATE OF INFLATION WHAT WERE THE CONSTRUCTION COST INCREASES THAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST LITTLE BIT? AND SO WE GO THROUGH AND HAVE DONE A CALCULATION TO SAY. WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THAT NUMBER. WHAT WOULD THAT BE? AND SO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE ABOUT 18, WHICH IS KIND OF SHOWN BY THE. THE CONSTRUCTION COST INDICES THE NATIONAL AVERAGE FOR THAT. THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT $90 MILLION, SO THAT'S. IT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST THAT HELPS US ADJUST FOR THOSE MARKET FORCES THAT HAVE HAPPENED AND KIND OF STILL HELPS US REMAIN COMPETITIVE IN THE MARKET, RIGHT SO. WE START TO LOOK AT ALL OF THESE THINGS, AND SO FOR US AS A CITY, WE FEEL THAT THAT'S STILL KIND OF THE WAY THAT WE WANT TO GO IS TO KIND OF DO A RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT EXACT COST. THAT COSTUME CONSTRUCTION INCREASE. SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE FROM US NEXT TIME AS WE START OH, BREAK THIS DOWN EVEN FURTHER IS WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THESE NUMBERS AND BREAK IT DOWN SO YOU CAN SEE SERVICE AREA COST SO YOU'LL SEE THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT COST NUMBERS. THAT'S WHAT WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH. IS TAKING A LOOK AT EACH OF THOSE ITEMS ON A SERVICE AREA BASIS IN THE LAND USE BASIS. REALLY KIND OF HONING IN ON A FEW OF THOSE SHOWING WHAT THEY WOULD BE AND THEN ALSO DOING A CITY COMPARISON. WITH OUR SISTER CITIES COMPARISON. WITH THEM TO KIND OF GO THROUGH AND SHOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE COLLECTING WHAT THEY'RE COLLECTING AND HOW WE KIND OF CAN REMAIN COMPETITIVE, SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO KIND OF SEE FROM US. HERE IS JUST KIND OF A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THAT. SO YOU KIND OF HAVE THESE THREE OPTIONS. I KNOW THERE'S FOUR OPTIONS THERE FOR THE MAINTAIN THE CURRENT COLLECTION RAY. THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS THE JUSTIN RECOVERABLE COST. ON.THEN THERE IS THAT MAX ACCESSIBLE COST THAT WE COULD RECOVER. HOWEVER, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CITY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN KIND OF PURSUING THIS TIME. SO REALLY, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO LOOK AT THE CONSTRUCTION COST INCREASE AND SHOW YOU SOME NUMBERS RELATED TO THAT. WITH THAT BEFORE I JUMP INTO THE UTILITY IMPACT SIDE. I WANT TO PAUSE AND TAKE A MOMENT TO SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OR ANYTHING I CAN ANSWER FOR YOU IN RELATIONSHIP TO THESE NUMBERS. ORDER SOME OF THAT. FUTURE IDEAS. I MEAN, YOU WENT THROUGH COST, BUT I MEAN WE ARE THINKING ABOUT USED IN THE CONSTRUCTION. YOU SAID THAT THERE WERE SOME FUTURE 10 YEAR PLAN IDEAS. WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE THAT YOU ARE THINKING OF DOING? I'M NOT SURE I QUITE UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION HERE, SO UH, TRY TO REPHRASE THIS.
NEVER MIND. I LIKE IT. SO THE IMPACT THE. OR THE ANALYSIS WITHIN IS THE LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS. CORRECT. SO IS THERE ANY DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN YOU HAVE WITHIN YOUR LAND SOON.
LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS THAT ARE NON RESIDENTIAL BASIC SERVICE IN RETAIL. OR ANY
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DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN THOSE UNITS IN WHAT THE COST IS UM. IN THE ANALYSIS OF THE IMPACT FEES, WHETHER YOU LABEL SOMETHING RETAIL OR WHERE YOU LABEL IT SERVICE YES. OH, I WANT TO GO INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF TECHNICAL CALCULATION THAT GOES INTO THAT, BUT EACH SPECIFIC LAND USE HAS CERTAIN FACTORS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.TRIP GENERATION IS ONE OF THOSE TRIPLE LENGTH ALL THAT INFORMATION GOES INTO THE CALCULATION. AND SO YOU START TALKING THE DIFFERENT LAND USES. EACH OF THOSE KIND OF COMES OUT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY ALL HAVE THOSE DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS. SO WHAT WE KIND OF TYPICALLY START WITH HIS KIND OF MAX ACCESSIBLE FEE, WHICH IS A SERVICE UNIT FEE AND THEN WE TAKE THAT AND ADJUSTED FOR EACH OF THE USES TO GET A DEVELOPMENT FEE IF YOU WILL, SO. SO THAT'S WHERE IT STARTS. AND SO EACH OF THOSE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN EACH SERVICE AREA. EACH YEAR'S. WHEN THE LAND SUMPTION ANALYSIS. THERE'S THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE'VE USED 10 YEARS WORTH OF TRAN AS A BASIC LINE WITHIN SOME OF THESE ASSUMPTIONS. WHAT DOES IT DO TO THE FEES THE CITY COLLECTS? OR HARDLY STRESS TEST. THAT SHOULD SAY THE TREND OF RETAIL NO LONGER GROWS IS THE MOUNT OF THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL THAT IF ONLINE SERVICING ALSO. DRASTICALLY CHANGES THE TRAN OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS. WHAT WOULD BE THE STRESS TEST TO YOUR IMPACT FEES? SO I GUESS THERE'S A COUPLE OF WAYS WE CAN WE DO THIS RIGHT? SO WHEN WE DO A FIVE YEAR UPDATES, WE ALWAYS LOOK AT THIS EVERY FIVE YEARS. WE ALSO DO THE SAME ANNUAL IMPACT FEE REPORTS. SO IF WE NOTICE THAT THERE'S A BIG SHIFT OR A TREND THAT WE'RE SEEING, WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING BE ADDRESSED OR START TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW WE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THERE ARE OPTIONS AS WE MOVE FORWARD THAT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT CHANGE THOSE WOMEN FOR SOMETHING YOU KNOW, DRASTICALLY CHANGES THERE OCCURS. NO ONE ELSE. WELL, WOULDN'T THAT ALSO TIGHTER WHEN WE CHANGE SOMETHING? SO WE HAVE SOMETHING DESIGNATED AS A COMMERCIAL, WHICH WE'VE HAD ONE COME UP RECENTLY AND THEN WE CONVERTED TO A RESIDENTIAL. HOW IS THAT ALSO IMPACTING THIS? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT? EVERY YEAR EVERY SIX MONTHS FOR THE CHANGES AND WHAT WE AS A COMMISSION AS A ZONING COMMISSION DUE TO CHANGE BONING AT CERTAIN POINTS. YEAH, I MEAN EACH EACH OF THOSE USES. UM EACH TIME WE CHANGE SOMETHING, IT CAN HAVE AN EFFECT. OVERALL WE JUST KIND OF LOOKING LONG TERM. SO AS LONG AS OUR POPULATIONS AND OUR NUMBERS ARE STILL KIND OF GROWING IN THE SAME WAY. YOU KNOW SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS DECISIONS MIGHT HAVE A SMALL IMPACT, BUT IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO MAKE A CHANGE OR TWEAK. SO IT REALLY DEPENDS. BUT WE DO WE DO CONSIDER THAT LOOK AT THAT, AS WE MOVE FORWARD. IS A REASON WHY WE'RE JUST REDLINING NUMBER FOUR. YEAH I THINK THE BIGGEST BIGGEST THING IS. WELL, THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS FOR RED LINING FOR ONE THAT WOULD TAKE US UP TO THE MAX FEE FOR EVERY SINGLE ITEM THAT WE HAVE. AND IF WE WERE TO KIND OF GO AND COLLECT THAT WOULD PUT US DEFINITELY OUT OF OUT OF TOUCH WITH SOME OF OUR SISTER CITIES AND WHAT THEY COLLECTED, SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE THAT WE TYPICALLY PURSUE. BUT I THINK AT THE SAME TIME IT KIND OF OPENS US UP. BECAUSE IF THINGS CHANGE LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HIS OWNING OR SOMETHING CHANGES, THEN THAT COULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON SOME OF THOSE FEES AS IT GOES ALONG. WE COULD MAKE SOME HEY, HANDSOME. UNIQUE SITUATIONS WHERE WE'D HAVE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES PRETTY QUICK. SO, UM, ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PRETTY DEVELOPER FRIENDLY HERE IN CITY MCKINNEY. SO WE ALWAYS TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION AND WE LIKE TO PARTNER WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND MAKING THINGS HAPPEN SO THIS IS ONE OF THE WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN SO WE ALWAYS. IT'S THERE, IT'S ALLOWED BY STATE LAW FOR US TO DO, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING PURSUIT. ANYONE ELSE? OTHER QUESTIONS? AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. WELL, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE UTILITY. SO UTILITY SIDES A LITTLE BIT EASIER IF YOU'LL IF YOU'LL KIND OF. TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE DO. IT'S VERY SIMILAR PROCESS TO THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT PLAN. WE KIND OF DO THE CALCULATIONS THE SAME WAY WE FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH WE NEED.
WHICH IS THE MAPS THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS JUST KIND OF. FOR THE WATER AND WASTEWATER.
THESE THE UTILITY IMPROVEMENT PLANS SO YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO GROW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED FOR THAT NEXT 10 YEARS AND THEN WE TAKE THAT AND. DO A CALCULATION TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO IT. BUT THE BIGGEST THING OR THE BIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGTHAT WE ONLY HAVE ONE SERVICE AREA. SO IT'S A LOT OF USING HER FOR US TO BEGIN RIGHT. WE'RE NOT SHIFTING BETWEEN USES BECAUSE ALL OF OUR UTILITY IMPACT FEES ARE DONE ON A PER METER BASIS, SO ITS SIZE ON THE METER NOT UNNECESSARILY. A SPECIFIC LAND USE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. AND
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SO WHEN WE START TO DIG INTO THIS, YOU CAN ACTUALLY. WITHOUT FROM SEX. WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, IT'S EASIER TO DIG INTO THE SERVICE UNIT FEES. YOU KIND OF START TO SHOW THAT ON THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SIDE. SO I HEAR YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE WATER SIDE. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FIRST ASSES. WE LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS YOU SEE ABOUT 35% INCREASE IN WHAT THAT COST WASS. FOR A THREE QUARTER INCH METER. FROM 2013 TO 2019. THAT'S KIND OF A SIMILAR TREND THAT WE'VE SEEN WHERE WE'VE ALWAYS KIND OF GOING THROUGH AND LOOKED. IT INCREASES IN WATER AND. AND WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO KHUN CONTINUE WITH THAT TREND, CONTINUE TO CHARGE THE MAX THE SEX MAX ACCESSIBLE FEE FOR THE WATER IMPACT FEE. A CZ.WE START TO LOOK AT THE WASTE WATER IMPACT FEE. I'M SURE YOU'RE THINKING TO YOURSELF.
WOW. THAT'S A BIG JUMP FROM ABOUT $162 TIO ABOUT $3000. IF YOU REMEMBER WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT IN THE PAST ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT AS PART OF THIS. ITS IMPACT. THE UPDATE IS THAT WE'VE HAD OTHER CITIES OF THE REGION START TO INCLUDE THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT. HE'S THEIR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS COST A CZ PART OF THEIR FEAST. SO THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER CITIES. ALLEN'S DONE THIS ROCK WALLS DOWN. THIS COLLEGE BILLS DONE THIS, AND THEY KIND OF INCLUDED THOSE NUMBERS AND SO. AH, A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT WITH THAT WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO CAPTURE THAT NUMBER. WE'VE JUST NOT ALWAYS HAVE THE DAY TO DO IT TO DO IT. SO RECENTLY, LIKE I SAID, NORTH TEXAS HAS ACTUALLY RELEASED THEIR FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN. SO NOW WE ACTUALLY HAVE A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, AND IT'S ALL RELATED TO NEW GROWTH BECAUSE THEY'RE BUILDING THESE NEW FACILITIES AND NEW LINES TO HANDLE. NEW GROWTH OBVIOUSLY WITHIN OUR REGION, SO. A ZOO START TO BREAK THAT DOWN FOR US. IT EQUATES TO ABOUT THIS 25 11. PORTION, WHICH IS KIND OF ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT. THE SECOND THING THAT I KIND OF WANT TO POINT OUT AS PART OF THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE CITY MCKINNEY. WE WERE STILL PAYING THAT FEE, WHETHER IT COMES FROM THE GENERAL FUND OR FROM. OFTHESE ASSESSED TO USERS, RESIDENTS WITHIN MCKINNEY, THEYJUST GET CHARGED THAT AS PART OF THEIR THEIR WATER BILL, AND SO WE STILL ARE PAYING THAT FEE IS JUST TRYING TO CAPTURE IT IN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WAY. THIS TIME, WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT FROM DEVELOPERS. GOULD ARE GROWING IN THE CITY. I DO WANT TO STRESS THAT THIS IS THE MAX ACCESSIBLE FOR THIS. AND SO WE ARE TAKING A DEEPER DIVE AND LOOK INTO WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING AND WHAT THEY'RE CHARGING FOR THEIR WASTE WATER PLANTS.
SO A CZ. WE DO THAT WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH THE NUMBER THAT KIND OF IS MORE COMPARABLE TO WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING. HOWEVER, THAT COULD BE THE FULL 28 99. WE DON'T KNOW YET. WE STILL GOT TO GO THROUGH AND ANALYZE ALL THOSE NUMBERS AND SEE KIND OF WHERE EVERYTHING SHAKES OUT. SO AS WE COME BACK, WE'LL KIND OF SHOW YOU THAT. THAT PROJECT PROJECTION THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR THE FINAL FEE FOR WHAT WE WHAT WE DO WITHIN WATER AND WASTEWATER.
WITH THAT I WILL STOP AND ANSWER QUESTIONS. RUSSIANS. YOU AND I HAD ONE ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID. YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE NUMBERS. TO CONFIRM THE 28 99.
SO MY QUESTION IS HOW REALIST 28 99 FROM 1 62. IF YOU'RE GOING BACK AND RE LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT HERE? NO, NO, WE'RE GOING BACKTO. LOOK WHAT PORTION WE SHOULD CHARGE OF THAT 28 99 28 99 NUMBER. OKAY. MAX MAX, ACCESSIBLE FEET NUMBER. WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT A COST COMPARISON BETWEEN US AND OUR SISTER CITIES TO TRY AND SEE WHERE WE WANT TO STAY AT REMAIN COMPETITIVE. AND SO WE'LL SEE WHAT THAT NUMBER ENDS UP BEFORE YOU MADE THIS PRESENTATION. WERE YOU ABLE TO LOOK AT OTHER CITIES TO COMPARE.
KENYA AGAINST OTHERS IN THE AREA. YEAH, WE'VE LOOKED AT A FEW ON DH. SOME OF THEIR PRICES RANGE, SO I'VE SEEN SOMEWHERE FROM, YOU KNOW, JUST BELOW 1000 TO ALMOST $2000. THEY'RE JUST THEY'RE THEY'RE WASTEWATER FEE. SO WHERE WILL WE END UP? I JUST WANT. I JUST DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT NUMBER WILL BE. WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT AND WE'LL GET THAT ON YOUR NEXT ON THE NEXT PREVIEW NEXT REPORT. YES. NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE RIGHT PLATFORM TO THIS BUT WATER, WATER RECLAMATION. A LOT OF CITIES THERE GOING TO RECLAIM WATER, WATER REUSE THINGS LIKE THAT. IS THERE AN IMPACT HE ASSOCIATED WITH OUT IN OTHER CITIES TO TRY TO BUILD A KIND OF WITH WATER AND WASTEWATER? IS THAT REALLY A WHOLE
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SEPARATE? DISCUSSION REGARDING IMPACT FEES. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT 100% SURE IF THAT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT. LET ME SEE JENNIFER. ALL RIGHT, SO IT'S PROBABLY SUFFER THAT I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF OTHER CITIES WHERE I KNOW FRISCO IS DOING A LOT OF RECLAIMED WATER, WATER REUSE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT. I'D EVER BE INTRODUCES, AND IN FACT. WE CAN CERTAINLY REACH OUT OUR WE'RE WORKING WITH KIM LEE HORN, AND THEY DO IMPACT THE UPDATES ALL ACROSS THE STATE SO WE COULD CERTAINLY ASK, AND IF THEY'VE HEARD ANYTHING OF THAT, BUT ME AND MCKINNEY, I'VE BEEN DOING IMPACT UPDATES SINCE I'VE STARTED HERE ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S EVER BEEN AT PLAY FOR US. NOT ANYTHING I'VE EVER FIRST TIME. I'VE BEEN ASKED THAT QUESTION, SO WE'LL JUST NEED TO ASK ABOUT IT AND WHEN WE COME AND GIVE THE PRESENTATION. OUR FOLLOW UP WEAKEN. CERTAINLY FOLLOW UP ON THAT QUESTION TO.NO ONE ELSE. OTHER QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS. JUST REAL QUICK FOR US. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .D ABOUT. WE'RE GONNA COME BACK WITH THOSE SPECIFIC RECOMMEND OUR SPECIFICS OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU'LL SEE TABLES OF THE. OF THE NEW POTENTIAL IMPACT FEES. YOU'LL SEE THE IMPACT CALCULATIONS WILL RUN SOME SOME ESTIMATES ON SIMILAR BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED RECENTLY. SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE NUMBERS AND HOW THEY. A WORK AND THEN ALSO, LIKE I SAID THAT SISTER CITY COMPARISON TO KIND OF SHOW HOW WE FIT AGAINST ALL ARE SISTER CITIES. SO JUST KIND OF NEXT STEPS FOR US. I KNOW THIS SAYS THAT THAT C A C IS GOING TO ACTUALLY BE IN SEPTEMBER THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN MOVED. OCTOBER UH, SEPTEMBER 22ND MEETING DATE IS PRETTY FULL. SO WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE ACTUALLY MOVE THAT BACK AND SO WE'LL SEE THAT IN OCTOBER IS WHEN YOU'LL SEE US AGAIN. AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING. PROCESS SO. ANY THERE'S NOTHING REALLY TO APPROVE OR RECOMMEND THAT THIS TIME WE JUST WANT TO GIVE THAT PRESENTATION. BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM AT THIS TIME. DARREN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MUCH APPRECIATED. OKAY, THAT'S THE END OF OUR MEETING. WE DO NEED EMOTION TO ADJOURN. LIKE MOTION TO ADJOURN. MR MCCALL. SECOND MAN, MR TAYLOR. HE'S CAST YOUR VOTES ON A JOURNEY IN THIS MEETING. MOTION CARRIES MISS REMY. IT IS 5 55, AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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