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CHAMBERS AT 2 22 NORTH TENNESSEE ST. GREAT CITY OF MCKINNEY. IT IS 304 IN THE AFTERNOON. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS. I DO NOT SHOW
[PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS (For Non-Public Hearing Agenda Items)]
ANYONE WHO'S REGISTERED. YES, I DO. UM STEVE, SPAIN, HOWARD. COME UP WITH YOUR STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. STEVE, SPAIN. OUR 18 36, VIRGINIA, I JUST COME IN STEVE SPAIN ARE ABOUT TO DIE. I'M COMING. AS STEVE, SPAIN ARE RISK MANAGER IN A FORMER HEALTH CARE RISK MANAGER IN THE AUTUMN. ONE OF THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TODAY IS TO REPEAL THE CITY ORDINANCE PROVIDING SOME SAFEGUARDS. PUBLIC SAFETY SAFEGUARDS RELATED TO COVET AND OVERALL, I'M I'M IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING THAT MOTION, UH AND FOLLOWING THE GUIDANCE OF THE GOVERNOR WITH ONE EXCEPTION. AND WE COULD DEBATE ALL DAY LONG ABOUT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF FACE MASK WHETHER THEY'RE GOOD OR NOT, BUT I WAS EXECUTIVE RISK MANAGER FOR LAUGHTER, HOSPITALS AND ON THE BOARD OF THE NORTH TEXAS HEALTH CARE RISK MANAGEMENT SOCIETY FOR SEVERAL YEARS. WHICH IS NOW THE DALLAS HOUSE HOSPITAL COUNCIL.SINCE THAT ORGANIZATION CEDED TO THE HOUSE HOUSE HOSPITAL. COUNSEL. AND WE DID A STUDY IN THE HOSPITAL HAD 19 HOSPITALS, LONG TERM ACUTE CARE HOSPITALS AND, UH. I GOT A LOT OF LAWSUITS BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING PEOPLE SICK IN HOSPITALS, AND WE LOOKED AT WHETHER OR NOT PEOPLE WEARING MASKS AND THE NUMBER ONE THING THE INFECTION CONTROL DOCTORS WERE TELLING US. IT WASN'T MASKS THAT WAS PREVENTING THAT. THE INFECTIONS IN THE HOSPITAL'S WHOSE HAND WASHING HAND SANITATION. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE IN OUR CITY ORDINANCES, A HAND SANITATION REQUIREMENT FOR BUSINESSES TO PROVIDE HAND SANITATION AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE BUSINESSES AND, UH. WHEN WE PUT THAT IN PLACE, NOT A LOT OF BUSINESSES WERE COMPLIANT. RICHARD MODEL MORE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IN THAT AREA. DID A GREAT JOB OF GOING UP TO EVERY PLACE I SAW AND REPORTED TO HIM. THAT WASN'T BEING COMPLIANT WITH THE CITY CODE. AS FAR AS PROVIDING HANDWASHING STATIONS AND HE GOT COMPLIANCE. UM, I GUESS PEOPLE COULD SAY WELL, YOU COULD BRING YOUR OWN STUFF. YES I COULD, BUT I'M NOT SO MUCH WORRIED ABOUT MYSELF AS I AM THE PUBLIC AT LARGE. IF WE'RE GOING TO DO AWAY WITH THE REPEAL OUR CITY ORDINANCE, WHICH I THINK WE SHOULD DO, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD HAVE A CARVE OUT THAT REQUIRES LOCAL BUSINESSES TO CONTINUE TO USE PROVIDE HAND SANITATION STATIONS AT THE ENTRANCES TO THEIR BUSINESSES. WE KNOW COVITZ ON AN UPTICK. AND UH, I THINK WE NEED TO USE EVERY MEASURE AT OUR DISPOSAL TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF COVERT AND NOT JUST COVERED BUT ALSO FLEW AND THERE'S YOU KNOW, THAT'S HIS HIGH OF A RISK IS COVERT IS IN MY OPINION AND THE NUMBER ONE THING WE FOUND OUT IN OUR HOSPITAL STUDIES. EDEMA HOSPITALS WE INCREASED PUTTING CAN SANITATION STATIONS IN THE PATIENT ROOMS AND WE DIDN'T. ONCE WE DIDN'T PUT IT IN THAT CONTINUED HAVE HIGH INFECTION RATES, THE ONES WHERE WE REQUIRED NURSES TOE, USE THE HAND SANITATION STATIONS AND MADE HIM MORE READILY AVAILABLE. WE SAY UPPSALA DECREASE. IN THE JOINT ACCREDITATION NOW CREDIT EIGHTS HOSPITALS IS RECOMMENDING THE HOSPITALS ACTUALLY FOLLOWED THE LEAD THAT WE TOOK IN 2005 AND ALL OF THE HOSPITALS IN THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA. NOW PUT HAND SANITATION CLEANING MATERIALS IN PATIENT ROOM, SO I THINK THAT'S A CRUCIAL PART OF PREVENTING THE SPREAD. UM I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT AS A CAR ABOUT AS YOU REPEAL THE ORDINANCE THAT WE FIND SOME MECHANISM. TO REQUIRE BUSINESSES TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE IN SANITATION STATIONS AT THEIR ENTRANCES. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK IS ALWAYS APPRECIATED. AS PERFECT TIMING AND THAT WAS MAYBE THE MOST PERFECT TIMING. WE WILL MOVE ON. I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE SHOWN TO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. WE'LL MOVE, TEO. ITEM 20092 17 DISCUSS ACT ON
[Consider/Discuss/Act on an Ordinance Repealing Ordinance No. 2020-04-031 Relative to the Covid-19 Virus, Acknowledging the Continued Authority of the Governor’s Executive Orders Including Local Enforcement Thereof Under the Texas Disaster Act Of 1975, Chapter 418, Texas Government Code]
WARRANTS REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 202004031 RELATIVE TO THE COVA 19 BARBAROUS, ACKNOWLEDGING THE CONTINUED AUTHORITY OF THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDERS, INCLUDING LOCAL ENFORCEMENT THEREOF UNDER TEXAS. THIS DISASTER ACT OF 1975 CHAPTER. 4 18, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. MR HAUSER TONIGHT, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT AND BY THE WAY, I REALLY APPRECIATED THOSE COMMENTS. MR SPAIN, HOWARD AND, UH, AND I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF HANDS. HANDS HAS THOUGHT THAT. THAT WAS REMOVED IN THAT LAST ORDERS. WE HAD A 4 31. THAT'S NO LONGER IN THE CURRENT ORDERS. I WAS NOT IN THE CURRENT AND SO OKAY, SO IF. KHUN REVISIT, THAT IS SOMETHING YOU KNOW, MOVING WAS STILL ENCOURAGING FOUR COURSES.HEY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I WASN'T WRONG. THAT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON OKAY, SO EARS.
I'LL START THE DISCUSSION. PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ME. WHY ARE WE ARE WE DOING THIS? WELL NEARLY EVERY CITY IN NORTH TEXAS HAS RESCINDED THEIR LOCAL ORDINANCES. ONCE THE GOVERNOR
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TOOK CONTROL MY COUNTERPARTS IN OTHER CITIES THAT SAID THEY HAD DONE SO TO ELIMINATE REDUNDANCY AND CONFUSION. IF YOU WADE THROUGH OUR ORDINANCE, YOU ULTIMATELY IDENTIFIED THAT STATES. WE'VE SIMPLY BEEN FOLLOWING AND COMPLYING WITH THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER IN EFFECT. HOWEVER, WE HAVE BUSINESS IN RESTAURANTS WITH PATRONS FROM BOTH WITHIN AND OUTSIDE THE CITY. OTHER BUSINESSES CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT IS AND ISN'T IN EFFECT, AS MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT INTIMATELY AWARE, OF COURSE OF THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE OF OUR LOCAL ORDINANCE, WHERE TO FIND IT. IF THEY FIND IT IF YOU'RE NOT ACCUSTOMED TO READING ORDINANCES. IT'S JUST LIKE LAWS THEY DON'T READ, UM, RE VERY EASILY. THE FACT THAT WEIRDNESS WAS PAST PRIOR TO MANY ADDITIONAL EXECUTIVE ORDERS PASSED BY THE GOVERNOR SEEMS HAVE ALSO CONTRIBUTED TO CONFUSION AS TO WHAT IS OR ISN'T IN PLACE IN MCKINNEY.HOWEVER I IMAGINE EVERYBODY BREATHING IN THE STATE OF MCKINNEY AND STATE OF TEXAS WITH ANY ACCESS WHATSOEVER TO ANY MEDIA IS AWARE OF THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER AND THAT THERE IS A STATE MANDATED VIA HIS EXECUTIVE ORDER. IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND BEING THAT WE ARE IN THIS STATE. IT IS IN ORDER THAT WE ARE UNDER AND AGAIN OUR ORDNANCE. I DID NOTHING BUT SPECIFICALLY POINT TO THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER. SO THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE'VE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD. WE'RE TRYING TO. HAVE A HAVE A HAVE CONSISTENCY IN THE REGION, WITH CONSISTENCY COMES GREATER COMPLIANCE. LESS CONFUSION. BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE AS IT STATES.
THERE IS AN EXECUTIVE ORDER BY THE STATE OF GOVERNOR AND THIS BODY OF GOVERNMENT. THE CITY RECOGNIZES THAT WAY HAVE SWORN TO UPHOLD. SUCH ORDERS WHEN WE TOOK OFFICE, SO. THAT IS THE DISCUSSION TODAY. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON IT. TO MR MEHRA. I JUST SEE THAT OUR ORDINANCE HIS SURPLUS IT AND DOES CAUSE CONFUSION AS TO WHERE THE. CHAIN OF COMMAND LINES, AND IT LIES WITH THE GOVERNOR AND WE'RE POWERLESS TO DO ANYTHING UNTIL THE GOVERNOR CHANGES HISS. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MCKINNEY WHO THINK THAT WE'RE THE GROUP THAT PUT IT INTO PLACE, AND THEN NOT THE CASE. I THINK THAT WOULD HELP CLEAR THAT UP AND IT WOULD ALLOW US TO EDUCATE. THE CITIZENS WILL WEAR THAT DIRECTIVE IS COMING FROM AND WHAT'S THAT DIRECTIVE IS REMOVED, THEN WE'RE FREE TO ACT ACCORDINGLY. HOWEVER THEY SEE FIT HERE IN MCKINNEY. WHETHER THERE'S RISING CASES ARE. INCREASE IN CASES WE STILL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GO BACK AND DO SOMETHING, BUT RIGHT NOW, I THINK IT JUST SIMPLY CAUSES CONFUSION ON DOESN'T ADD ANYTHING TO THE LIVES OF THE CITIZENS. MCKINNEY FAVOR REPEALING UP FOR THOSE GROUNDS. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A PICTURE OF. A SIGN ON A BILL ARE IN A RESTAURANT THAT SAYS FACE MASKS MUST BE WORN BEFORE ENTERING. MAYOR UH MAY AURIOL FULLER DECLARATION, SECTION SIX. SO THAT I THINK THAT'S WHAT CONFUSES PEOPLE. SO YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SO THAT'S SO THEY KEEP THINKING THAT YOUR THIS IS YOUR DECISION. UM AND IT MIGHT MAY END UP BEING OUR DECISION. BUT RIGHT NOW IT IS THE GOVERNOR'S DECISION, SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THIS AS WELL. WHAT ELSE? I THINK IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF THAT REPEALING IT.
TAKING CONFUSION AWAY REDUNDANCY. IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT, STATE GOVERNMENT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. YOU WERE JUST CLEANING UP SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP. ALL RIGHT WITH THAT EMOTION. TO PROVE THIS MOTION. CAST YOUR VOTES. I'M WITH IT.
DIFFICULT. I MAY BE OLD UP HERE. WOULD PUMP UP WHETHER YOU'RE THERE OR NOT. IT DOESN'T.
DOESN'T HAVE THE MOTION BUTTON, SO HE'S NOT IN FAVOR OF YES. MOTION PASSES. NEXT ITEM TO
[DISCUSS REGULAR MEETING AGENDA ITEMS]
DISCUSS REGULAR MEETING AGENDA ITEMS. SIR. ANY ITEM THAT. COUNTS WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH STAFF WHY THEY ARE HERE. AND I THINK THEY BOTH DIRECTLY INVOLVED MIKE KOWSKI 20094 AND 24 7. STEVE IS HERE. IT'S 20 0944 CONSIDERING ACT ON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING APPLICATION ACCEPTANCE OF AWARDED OF TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT COMMITTEE OUTDOOR OUTREACH PROGRAM GRANT FOR A KAYAK PROGRAM AND 0747. THAT'S THE CONDUCT PUB CARRYING[00:10:05]
CONCERN ACT ON REQUEST BY NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT. SO WE'LL WE'LL START WITH FIRST. IT'S ABOUT THIS GUY ACT PROGRAM. I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT. I JUST. NORMALLY I MEET WITH THE CITY MANAGER, MR GRIMES PRIOR TO THE COUNCIL MEETINGS. WE HAD SOME CONFLICTS AND COULDN'T DO THAT THIS TIME NOT MENTIONED TO HIM THAT I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THIS PROGRAM. I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK IT'S LIMITED TIO KAYAKS. A TOWN LIGHT ON I REALLY BROUGHT YOU UP HERE JUST SO YOU COULD PROMOTE THE PROGRAM. AND THEN I COULD ARGUE TIO INCREASED THE PROGRAM TO INCLUDE THE MANY BEAUTIFUL CREEK'S THROUGHOUT MCKINNEY. THANKS FOR TEAM ME UP. I APPRECIATE IT SO MUCH SO AT TOWN LIKE THAT WOULD BE THE HOME BASE FOR INSTRUCTION AND PROGRAMMING. HOWEVER, THAT THE OVERALL PROGRAM DOES ENCOURAGE ALLOW FOR FIELD TRIPS TO OTHER PARKS IN OUR PARKS SYSTEM, AS WELL AS STATE PARKS, SO VERY IMPORTANT TO US WERE ALSO LOOKING TO PARTNER WITH THE OLD SELLERS RECREATION AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM. BRING THE KIDDOS THE TOWN LAKE TO LEARN KAYAKING. OTHER LIFE SKILLS. UH, NATIONAL CAMP OUT AS WELL. SO THIS PROGRAM WILL BE HOUSED OUT OF THE RECREATION CENTRE OF TOWN LIKE. HER PROGRAMMING PURPOSES.BUT TO YOUR POINT WE HOPE TO EXPAND IT BEYOND ANY HOPE YOU GET THE GRAND APPRECIATED THE OTHER ONE I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT. I THINK MR HOUSE WAS SAID YOU MAY NOT. INVOLVED IN THAT ONE. IT'S THE SEWER PIPELINES RUNNING ALONG MYSELF. MR HUBER CASE COMTECH TEAM THAT IS NECESSARY. I BELIEVE YOU, AND I HAD SPOKEN ABOUT THAT ONE. IT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO PROMOTE A PROJECT LINKING OUR TRAILS ALONG THAT PIPELINE. UH IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? SO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS FOR A DIFFERENT PIECE OF PARK PROPERTY. THIS IS PART OF DOUGLAS PROPERTY ALONG 3 80. AND THAT IS A FUTURE PARK. THE OTHER PIPELINE WE SPOKE ABOUT WAS LONG GOES IN CREEK. YEAH, THIS IS A BIT DOWN THINKING OF A WATER LINE, NOT A SEWER LINE, SO I DON'T NEED YOU TO COME UP, AND I APPRECIATE THAT WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY COMES, WILL.
ADVERTISE THAT PROJECT. IT'S WORKING. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR ALL THE GOOD WORK YOU DO FROM KENNY. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. ANYONE ELSE HAVEN'T I? D D LIKE TO DISCUSS. ONE REAL QUICK AND, UH, THIS IS ITEM. 20932. ENDING THE FISCAL YOUR BUDGET. THIS IS JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. I THINK FOR FOLKS ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN AND IF WE CAN GET A THERE'S NOT A MAP ATTACHED TO IT. AND USUALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY LOCATION MAP WOULD BE GREAT. SO DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN DO OR SOMETHING. CITY CITY STAFF COULD DO SURE. IT'S ONLY THING AND NOTHING ON THEIR SHOWS WHERE IT IS. NO ONE ELSE. I'M GOING TO NEED TEO CALLS IN A RECESS FOR A MINUTE. I HAVE TO DISCUSS SOMETHING WITH OUR CITY MANAGER, AN ATTORNEY IF THAT'S OKAY. LISTEN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION, ACCORDING TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551071 CONSULTATIONS WITH AN ATTORNEY ON ANY WORK SESSION. SPECIAL SESSION REGULAR SESSION AGENDA ITEM REQUIRING CONFIDENTIAL ATTORNEY CLIENT ADVICE NECESSITATED BY THE DELIBERATION, DISCUSSION OF SAID ITEMS. SECTION 551071 SKYWAY TOWERS LLC, DELAWARE LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY VERSUS CITY MCKINNEY, TEXAS AND CITY COUNCIL OF THE CIA.
MCKINNEY, TEXAS AND 5517 TO DELIBERATIONS ABOUT REAL PROPERTY MUNICIPAL FACILITIES.
OR DURING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO WE'RE BACK IN SESSI. AND WE EXCUSE MAYOR FULLER. HE GOT A TEXT, SAYING THAT HE HAD BEEN EXPOSED TO SOMEBODY WITH KOVEN YESTERDAY AND SO AT AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, WHICH IS THE POPULAR PHRASE NOW AND THE FACT THAT I'M HEADED TO HAWAII TOMORROW AND. I GOT A KOBE TEST YESTERDAY. I'M CLEAN, SO I WANT TO STAY THAT WAY. SO. SO HE'S HE'S HE'S JOINING US, AND I'M SURE IT'S NOTHING BUT WE APPRECIATE HIS WILLINGNESS TO JOIN US FROM ANOTHER ROOM BY HIMSELF. SO WHERE WERE WE SENT ANY OTHER FOLLOW UPS QUESTIONS ISSUES. WE WENT THROUGH ALL THAT. ANYBODY HELPS HEAVEN ISSUE YOU WANT TO GO OVER ANY
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ISSUES WITH OUR WORK SESSION ITEMS. A REGULAR. I'M SORRY. REGULAR AGENDA. OKAY, WE'LL[Downtown Parking Management Study Kick-Off with Dixon Resources Unlimited]
MOVE ON TO OUR WORK SESSION ITEMS. FIRST OF ALL, 2020 008 EM DOWNTOWN PARKING MANAGEMENT STUDY, KICK OFF WITH PICKS AND RESOURCE IS UNLIMITED. UH, SO ARE YOU. YES. I'M ALEC MILLER.GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT PLANNER IN THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIVISION.
THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S WORK SESSION ITEM IS TO INTRODUCE THE COUNCIL, TOO. THE DOWNTOWN PARKING MANAGEMENT STUDY AND TO THE PROJECT CONSULTANT TEAM FROM DIXON RESOURCE IS UNLIMITED AND WOULD SOLUTIONS GROUP. IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR STAFF PRESENTED THE COUNCIL WITH THE DOWNTOWN PARKING MANAGEMENT STUDY RESULTS THEN SUBSEQUENTLY, IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR, THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE CONTRACT FOR THIS PROJECT. AND WITH THAT, EAGER TO INTRODUCE YOU TO JULIE DIXON AND BRETT WOULD FROM THE CONSULTANT TEAM. RELIC AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY I WAS JUST ABOUT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE MAYOR AND THANK HIM FOR COMING TO OUR STAKEHOLDERS MEETING LAST NIGHT, BUT I MIGHT RECANT THAT STATEMENT. SO HE'S HERE. HE COULD HEAR YOU SO HE CAN HEAR THAT ONE SO I WILL FOLLOW UP ON THAT ONE AFTERWARDS. I SO WITH THAT AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY. IT WAS SO IMPORTANT FOR US DURING OUR FIRST SITE VISIT TO BE ABLE TO COME IN FRONT OF YOU, AND ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF TALKING, BUT OUR HOPE IS ACTUALLY RELY UPON ALL OF YOU BECAUSE ONE OF THE KEY ASPECT OF THIS PROJECT IS REALLY HEARING FROM OUR STAKEHOLDERS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. AND ACTUALLY, WE INITIATED THE PROJECT JUST OVER A MONTH AGO AND ALREADY WE'VE SPOKEN TO DOZENS AND DOZENS AND DOZENS OF STAKEHOLDERS, BUSINESS OWNERS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, RESIDENTS, AND IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN REALLY FANTASTIC. AND LAST NIGHT ACTUALLY ON MAIN STREET, HOSTED A HAPPY HOUR AT THE WINERY, AND WE HAD A TREMENDOUS RESPONSE TO THAT.
AND EVEN LAST WEEK WE WERE ABLE TEO GET FIT INTO THE MAIN STREET MONTHLY MEETING, AND THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF THIS PROJECT SCOPE AND WHAT WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT HERE TODAY IS THAT. REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT HAS BEEN DONE HISTORICALLY, REALLY, HOW WE'VE GOTTEN TO THE PLACE WHERE WE ARE TODAY WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT PARKING MANAGEMENT, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M EXCITED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TODAY, TOO, IS. FROM A LOT OF YOUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT KIND OF WHAT'S BEEN DONE HISTORICALLY, OR MAYBE WHAT HASN'T BEEN DONE, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO PRESENT IS AN IMPLEMENTATION OR AN ACTION PLAN. AND SO AS WE GO THROUGH THE AGENDA TODAY, WE WANT TO JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT AND REALLY TALK ABOUT THE CONSIDERATIONS. AND THEN, MORE IMPORTANTLY, HEARING SOME OF YOUR FEEDBACK JUST LIKE WE'VE ACTUALLY HEARD FROM THE OTHER COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS. SO HERE YOU HAVE OUR PROJECT TEAM AND JOINING ME IS OUR PARTNER ON THIS PROJECT BRENTWOOD, WHO IS CAUTIOUSLY SAYING MORE THAN 6 FT IN DISTANCE FROM US AS WELL, BUT I REALLY WANTED TO DESCRIBE THE FACT THAT. WE ARE A PROJECT TEAM. IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN YOUR TYPICAL PARKING CONSULTANT BETWEEN BROKEN MYSELF. WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE ON THE PARKING AND TRANSPORTATION INDUSTRY. AND WHEN YOU SEE THIS NEXT SLIDE, YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO SEE THIS IS JUST A SAMPLING OF SOME OF THE MUNICIPAL PROJECTS THAT WE WORKED ON. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M REALLY PLEASED TO SHARE WITH YOU IS THAT WE TAKE A HOLISTIC APPROACH TOWARDS PARKING MANAGEMENT AND SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT YOU'LL SEE ON AN UPCOMING SLIDE IS THE FACT THAT. KIDNEYS ACTUALLY DONE A LOT TO GET US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, AND SOME OF THE DATA COLLECTION PROJECTS THAT YOU'VE DONE HISTORICALLY IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A BIG COST SAVER AND TIME SAVER ON THIS PROJECT. WE TALKED ABOUT MOVING FORWARD AND I'LL COME BACK TO THAT IN A MOMENT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT REALISTIC SOLUTIONS, I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS TO REALLY GET TO THE UNDERSTANDING OF YOU KNOW WHAT THE NEEDS ARE FOR MCKINNEY, AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE ON SOLUTION, INGS TALKING ABOUT SHORT TERM, IMMEDIATE AS WELL AS MORE LONGER TERM, BUT. IT'S SOMETHING WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOLISTIC APPROACH. IT COMES TO EVERYTHING FROM THE SIGNAGE CAMPAIGN TO THE OUR REACH THE MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS PLAN BECAUSE HONESTLY, AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT ONE OF THE STAKEHOLDERS BROUGHT UP JUST IN THE MEETING WE HAD RIGHT BEFORE THIS REALLY COMES DOWN TO TRANSPARENCY AND EDUCATION. WE REALLY WANT PEOPLE TO FOLLOW THE RULES, AND IT'S ABOUT EDUCATION AND INFORMATION. SO THIS IS REALLY JUST KIND OF THE BASELINE OF SOME OF THE VERY CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTRIC PARKING PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE SUPPORTED IN THE PAST. AND WHAT'S BEEN REALLY IMPORTANT AND WHY IT WAS SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO COME ON SITE IS THAT WHILE WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF MIXTURE OF, YOU KNOW, VIRTUAL MEETINGS AND YOU KNOW, OUTREACH.
IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO ALSO COME HERE AND REALLY UNDERSTAND AND WALK YOUR COMMUNITY AND UNDERSTAND WHERE THE PARKING LOTS ARE WHERE THE GARAGES ARE WHATTHE SIGN IT LOOKS LIKE AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE SPENDING THIS TRIP DOING IS REALLY. WALKING YOUR COMMUNITY GOING DOOR TO DOOR. SPEAKING TO BUSINESS OWNERS, SPEAKING TO COMMUNITY MEMBER OF SPEAKING TO EMPLOYEES TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NEED IS, AND THAT'S WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THOSE OBJECTIVES, REALLY TYING THOSE IN. WITH NOT ONLY YOUR CITY COUNCIL VOLES AND
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STRATEGIES, BUT ALSO JUST THE OVERALL HEALTH AND WELL BEING OF YOUR DOWNTOWN AS WELL AS THE GROWTH OF THAT DOWNTOWN AS WELL. WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A DYNAMIC PLAN FOR YOU. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A ROAD MAP. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT STRATEGIC ROAD MAP, WE KIND OF CALLED IT LAST NIGHT, JOKINGLY THAT CHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE GUIDELINES. WE WANT TO PUT TOGETHER A PLAN SO THAT AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, YOU CAN COME TO THE CROSSROADS AND MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AND BASICALLY UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU TAKE THIS PATH. THESE WOULD BE THE COST IMPACTS WHERE THE EFFECTS OF WHAT THOSE DECISIONS WILL BE, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TOO, BECAUSE YOU'VE HEARD ME MENTION CUSTOMER SERVICE ALREADY A COUPLE OF TIMES. I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. I KNOW THAT YOU CAN APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT OFTENTIMES PARKING IS THE FIRST AND LAST IMPRESSION THAT OUR GUESTS HAVE WHEN THEY VISIT MCKINNEY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A POSITIVE ONE FOR US PARKING AND CUSTOMER SERVICE ARE SYNONYMOUS WITH EACH OTHER, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PARKING IS TREATED AS A CUSTOMER SERVICE EXPERIENCE FOR OUR CONSUMERS FOR OUR GUESTS, BUT ALSO FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. FOR OUR RESIDENTS FOR OUR BUSINESS OWNERS, AND WE'VE GOT TO BASICALLY TAKE THAT WHOLE BACK PACKAGE AND PUT IT INTO THIS ROAD MAP. WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING DONE TODAY HOW WE CAN DO THEM BETTER, BUT ALSO HOW WEAKEN MESSAGE THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE. COULD TECHNOLOGY BE A PART OF IT ABSOLUTELY IS PAID PARKING THE SOLUTION. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WHAT I CAN SAY TO YOU FROM WHAT WE FOUND ALREADY IS COULD PAY PARKING BEING EVENTUAL SOLUTION FOR MCKINNEY.I THINK THAT IT MIGHT BE IN A FUTURE PATH FOR YOU ALL. BUT FOR THE IMMEDIATE IT COMES DOWN TO THE MANAGEMENT OF THE RESOURCE IS THAT WE HAVE TODAY AND MAYBE SOME OPTIMIZATION OR SOME EFFICIENCIES AND MESSAGING. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU WITH SOME OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT PATH. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED, BUT SO FAR ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT WHEN I TALKED ABOUT EVENTUALITIES OR POSSIBILITIES. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE INCREMENTAL APPROACH. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL HEAR US. SAY IN A LOT OF THE STAKEHOLDERS I'VE SEEN ARE IN THE ROOM HERE TODAY IS THAT YOU KNOW, IT'S TAKEN US A WHILE TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED IS THAT PARKING IS ABOUT LEARNED BEHAVIOR. PEOPLE HAVE FIGURED OUT WHAT THEY CAN DO WHERE THEY COULD DO IT. HOW LONG THEY COULD DO IT FOR? AND IN ORDER TO INFLUENCE CHANGE THAT HAS TO HAPPEN INCREMENTALLY. WHEN YOU HAVE TO CHANGE PEOPLE'S LEARNED BEHAVIOR, IT TAKES SOME TIME TO BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THAT NEW INFORMATION AND TO BE ABLE TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. AND SO SOME OF THE THINGS TOO, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT PARKING SOLUTIONS TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE THAT BEHAVIOR, LIKE THE CLOT MOVED THE NEEDLE. YOU HAVE TO DO IT GRADUALLY. NOW WE DIDN'T GET TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. OVERNIGHT AND FIXING. IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING TOO AND WE TALK ABOUT INCREMENTAL CHANGES. IT'S ABOUT MAKING STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS OR STRATEGIC APPROACHES TO MAKING THOSE CHANGES BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD THIS EXPERIENCE IS THAT WE WANT TO AVOID BAND AID SOLUTIONS AND WHEN I SAY BAND AID SOLUTIONS. OFTENTIMES WE IDENTIFY A CHALLENGE AND WE FIX THE CHALLENGE RIGHT THERE. WORDS IMPACTED, BUT I LIKE TO USE THE SQUEEZE THE BALLOON THEORY IT SQUEEZE THE BALLOON. THE PROBLEM JUST POPS UP IN OTHER AREAS. SO OUR JOB IS TO REALLY RIP OFF A LOT OF THOSE BAND AIDS OR DUCT TAPE THAT'S BEEN HOLDING SOME THINGS TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN REALLY GET TO THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE ISSUE AND REALLY SOLVE FOR THE GREATER GOOD. HOW COULD THAT TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME OR A LITTLE BIT MORE STRATEGY, BUT IT'S THE WAY TO DO IT TO BE EFFECTIVE. NOW I HAVE TO HIGHLIGHT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT BECOMES REALLY IMPORTANT HERE. MCKINNEY IS WE WANT TO GET YOU TO A POINT WHERE YOU'RE MAKING DATA DRIVEN DECISIONS. THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT WHEN WE START TO TALK ABOUT TECHNOLO&-PE TODAY YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THE DATA AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU, IT IS SO REFRESHING TO COME INTO A COMMUNITY LIKE YOURS THAT HOW STRATEGICALLY INVESTED IN YOUR DATA COLLECTION HELP PLAN THAT'S USUALLY SOMETHING I COULD TELL YOU BRITAIN I HAVE TO DO ON EVERY PROJECT IS GO OUT THERE AND COLLECT D TOE. LEVERAGE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE AS WE MOVED THE PROJECT FORWARD AND WE REALLY WANT TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE YOU'RE MAKING PROACTIVE. DECISIONS RATHER THAN REACTIVE DECISIONS, AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THIS APPROACH AND TACKLING PARKING HERE IN KINNEY, SO AS I MENTIONED THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE THE HISTORICAL PARKING STUDY DATA. IS REALLY IMPORTANT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TREND ANALYSIS THAT'S GOING TO REALLY HELP US. UNDERSTAND AND PLANNING FOR THE RESOURCE IS THAT YOU HAVE, AND I HAVE TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT THIS HAS BEEN CONSISTENT FROM MANY OF YOUR STAKEHOLDERS. THE ISSUE OF PERCEPTION VERSUS REALITY.
YOUR PARKING STUDIES HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE AMPLE PARKING INVENTORY, BUT IT'S A MATTER OF IS THAT WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO PARK. HOW DO WE EXPLAIN TO THEM OR PARKING WAS AVAILABLE AND THAT'S WHERE THAT PERCEPTION ISSUE COMES IN. WE'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF REALLY INTERESTING STORIES ABOUT YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU USED TO RUN YOUR GOOGLE MAPS TO GET YOU TO MCKINNEY. IT USED TO TAKE YOU RIGHT TO THE IMPACT RIGHT TO THE TOWN SQUARE. I DON'T REALLY THINK WE WANT TO DRIVE PEOPLE RIGHT TO THE TOWN SQUARE BECAUSE THAT'S
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OUR DENTIST. DENSE IS PART OF THE CITY. AND SO I BELIEVE IT WAS MAIN STREET THAT WAS ABLE TO GO IN AND CHANGE THE PIN DROP. SO IT ACTUALLY TAKES YOU TO THE PARKING GARAGE. AND SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT AN IMPROVED CUSTOMER SERVICE, OR IMPROVE, IMPROVE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE, THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. BASICALLY OPTIMIZING THE EXPERIENCE AND THE FACT IS AND JUSTIN THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE'VE HAD SO FAR HERE IN OUR VISIT IS THE JUST THE QUAINT CHARM OF MCKINNEY AND BEING SURE THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE SOLUTIONS, AND SO THE IMPORTANT THING TO HEAR IS AND WE'VE ALREADY HEARD THIS IN OUR STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS. EVERYBODY HAS AN OPINION, AND EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT PRIORITY IN A DIFFERENT NEED. SO THE IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THIS ROAD MAP IS THAT WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE TAKE A BALANCED APPROACH. AND WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU TO PRESENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORT WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'VE TALKED TIO COMPREHENSIVE SAMPLING OF THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE AN OUTREACH SURVEY THAT'LL GO OUT AFTER THIS VISIT. SO THAT WE CAN REALLY HEAR FROM EVEN MORE FOLKS THAT WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY HEARD FROM IN THIS INITIAL TRIP BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MORE FEEDBACK THE MORE OPINIONS THE MORE EXPERIENCES THAT WE HAVE, THE MORE EFFECTIVE THE PLAN CAN BE SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS YOU WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE TACKLING INCLUDES COMMERCIAL LOADING. SO FAR, IT'S BEEN A REALLY POSITIVE HEARING, SO MANY OF THE BUSINESSES ARE ABLE TO FOCUS THEIR DELIVERIES. BEFORE 10 AM OURS AGAIN. THAT'S KUDOS TO THE CITY BECAUSE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE OFTEN EXPERIENCE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. THE MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND THE NERVOUSNESS OF SOME OF THE BUSINESSES WITH WHAT MAY BE IS GONNA HAPPEN IS THE CONSTRUCTION EXPANDS, SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE PLAN TO ABOUT SOME PROACTIVE THINGS THAT MAY BE THE CITY CAN TACKLE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT APPROACH.IT ALSO VERY IMPORTANTLY AND I CAN'T EMPHASIZE THIS ENOUGH IN SAVING ITFOR LASTED. WE'VE HEARD THIS AND EVERY MEETING IS THE SIGNIFICANCE AND IMPORTANCE OF SINAN JINWEI FINDING AND WE'RE EXCITED. WE'RE MEETING WITH ENGINEERING ON FRIDAY THAT HAVE ALREADY STARTED TO TAKE ON WAY FINDING SO TO BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE SOME OF OUR WAY FINDING EXPERTISE AND EXPERIENCE IS A REALLY POSITIVE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I CAN TELL YOU THAT SINCE WE STARTED OUR ENGAGEMENT WITH MCKINNEY, I HAVE BEEN SO EXCITED ABOUT YOUR DASH PROJECT. WE'VE WORKED WITH MICRO TRANSIT PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND HELPING IMPLEMENT THOSE. AND YOURS IS A PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN BUILT IN HOUSE AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO MAXIMIZE ON THAT ASSET BECAUSE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING EVERY COMMUNITY HAS SO REALLY GETTING INTO THE TIMELINE IN THE PROJECT PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY IS PART OF THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND REALLY UNDERSTANDING. AH, THE IMPACTS AND KIND OF THE DYNAMICS OF THE DOWNTOWN. THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PLAN ACTUALLY CONTINUES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS. I'M INCLUDING IN OUR NEXT VISIT, ONE WILL COME WITH OUR FIRST DRAFT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO DO WHAT WE CALL A MUNICIPAL CODE CALLED A MUNICIPAL CODE SCRUBBER, A REVIEW WHERE WE LOOK TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE CODE UPDATES TO WHAT WE CALL FUTURE PROOF YOU FOR PARKING. SO THAT YOU'RE PREPARED FOR WHATEVER MAY COME IN THE FUTURE AS WELL AS WE HAVE BASICALLY MODELING TOOL THAT ALLOWS YOU TO DO FINANCIAL ASSESSMENTS BASED ON SOME OF THE DECISIONS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. IF YOU CONSIDER AWAY FINDING PACKAGE OR IF YOU CONSIDER DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGY TO IDENTIFY PARKING AVAILABILITY. THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE WANT TO BUILD INTO THE MODELING TOOLS SO THAT THAT WAY YOU'LL UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT IMPACTS OF THAT KHUN B. OUR NEXT VISIT WERE SLOTTING FOR BASICALLY EARLY DECEMBER SURPRISE RIGHT AFTER THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY IS TO BE ABLE TO COME AND PRESENT THE DRAFT TO THE COMMUNITY.
THAT DRAFT PRESENTATION IS REALLY IMPORTANT. WE TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND INTERACTION.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE CRITIQUE. WE GET THE FEEDBACK NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE SO THAT WE CAN AGAIN MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A REALISTIC PLAN FOR MCKINNEY. I THINK THAT THAT'S THE REAL DIFFERENTIATOR ABOUT THE APPROACH THAT WE TAKE IS THAT WHILE IN SOME CASES WE MAY PUSH THE ENVELOPE A LITTLE BIT HERE, THERE, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED IN THE CITY AND BEING ABLE TO WORK REALLY HAND IN HAND WITH THE COMMUNITY IS KEY, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE THEIR SUPPORT, MOVING INTO PRESENTING IT TO YOU ALL. IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BECOME QUITE CONTENTIOUS AND ALSO NOT ACHIEVABLE. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN WORK IN MCKINNEY. AND SO THEN THE ANTICIPATION IS FINALIZING THAT PARKING ACTION PLAN BASICALLY THROUGH DECEMBER, AND THEN WE'RE OPTIMISTIC THAT EARLY IN Q ONE LIKELY I'M SOMETIME IN JANUARY THAT WE WOULD COME TO PRESENT TO YOU. THE FINAL PLAN AND THE FINAL PARKING ACTION PLAN FOR YOUR REVIEW. AND SO I MENTIONED THAT MY PRESENTATION WAS INTENDED TO BE BRIEF BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO CALL UPON ALL OF YOU. THE EXERCISE THAT WE HAVE BEEN UNDERTAKING IS WHENEVER WE SPEAK TO A STAKEHOLDER, WE SAY IF WE GAVE YOU A PARKING MAGIC WAND. YOU COULD CHANGE, FIX OR IMPROVE ONE THING ABOUT PARKING IN MCKINNEY, WHAT WOULD YOU USE IT FOR? AND THROUGH THAT WE'VE HAD REALLY DYNAMIC CONVERSATIONS WITH EVERYBODY ON OUR HOPE WAS HEARING FROM ALL OF YOU. ESPECIALLY WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES MAY OR MAY NOT BE SO THAT WE COULD ALSO INCORPORATE
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THAT INTO OUR ACTION PLAN. AND BEFORE I GET INTO THAT REQUEST, I THOUGHT I'D ALSO JUST FOR YOU BE ABLE TO SEE SOME OF THE THEMES OF WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS SO FAR.INCLUDES AT THE TOP OF THE LIST THAT REALLY IS UP THERE CLOSE WITH WAY FINDING IS THE IMPORTANCE OF DESIGNATED EMPLOYEE PARKING AREAS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, TOO.
WALKABILITY IMPORTANCE ON THROUGHOUT THE DOWNTOWN, REALLY TRYING TO INCREASE UTILIZATION OF OUR GARAGE. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY STUCK OUT THERE AGAIN. COMMERCIAL LOADING HOUSE COME UP WAY FINDING LIKE I MENTIONED. JUST PARKING MANAGEMENT AROUND THE SQUARE HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT QUITE EXTENSIVELY AND THEN THE CONVERSATION ABOUT TIME LIMITED AND PAID PARKING, SO THOSE WERE JUST SOME OF THE THEMES OF WHAT HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AND INTRODUCED SO FAR. BUT AGAIN, WE WANTED TO LEVERAGE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM ALL OF YOU, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S MY APPROPRIATE THING TO ASK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THAT OVER TO THE COUNCIL TO SEE IF WE COULD HEAR ANY OF YOUR FEEDBACK. THANK YOU. COUNSEL. QUESTIONS. ISSUES CONCERNS STATEMENTS. FOR THE FOR THE UPDATE, I THINK. THE 22 THINGS I'VE RUN INTO. NOT THAT THEY'RE THE BEST ARE THE ULTIMATE AND WHAT TO DO, BUT.
MARKING ANOTHER LOCALES OTHER THAN MCKINNEY. ONE GOING INTO A PARKING DECK, KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT'S AVAILABLE ON WHICH FLOOR AND HOW MANY SPACES HAS BEEN HUGE THEM IN A COUPLE OF SMALLER TOWNS HAVE BEEN IN THAT HAVE A NAP. WITH REAL TIME UPDATES, YOU KNOW, SAY, HEY, LISTEN, HERE'S A MAP. HERE'S WHERE 30 SPACES ARE YOURS FOR 20 SPACES ARE I DON'T HAVE THE FITS IN WHAT? YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING. BUT THOSE ARE TWO THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN.
HE PROBABLY OVERUSED TERM WOULD BE COOL, BUT ALSO FAIRLY USEFUL, SO THAT THE ONLY THINGS I LOOK THROUGH THERE. IT'S LIKE, HEY, I'M THINKING INCORPORATE THAT THAT WOUL COOL AND USEFUL. I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN A KIND OF KNOWING WHERE DOWNTOWN EMPLOYEES OR PARKING THAT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT. NOBODY'S TAKE UP SPACE IS I MEAN THAT THAT'S WHERE YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA WALK. THAT'S WHERE YOU NEED TO DO IS JUST PARK AND WALK TO. WHERE WERE YOU WORKING? HOPEFULLY, YOU'RE NOT TAKING UP A SPACE THAT'S CLOSE AND EASY AND.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO RETELL PEOPLE AND SO THAT THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO FIGURE OUT AND I KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT. BUT IT'D BE INTERESTING TO MAKE SURE YOU SEE WHERE THE EMPLOYEES OF DOWNTOWN OR PARKING. THE ULTRA THAT YOU HAVE IT LAST ON YOUR LIST BECAUSE ITS LAST IN PRIORITIES, BUT THE LAST THING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIS PAID PARKING IN DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY. DOES THAT MEAN YOU'RE NOT IN FAVOR OF IT RIGHT IN FAVOR OF PAID PARKING? OKAY? THE LAST RESORT. NOBODY ELSE. DOUBLE. THAT IS IT. WE HAVE OUR CONTACT INFORMATION UP THERE ON THE SCREEN AS WELL. AND JUST THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME FOR US TODAY. MAYOR. I JUST I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOUR FOR AGAIN ALREADY STATED IN THE COMMUNITY OUTRAGE LAST NIGHT AND GATHERING ALL THE INPUT FROM STAKEHOLDERS DOWN THERE HANDLED YOURSELF VERY WELL. AND I THOUGHT WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE AND YOU MADE IT. YOU CULTIVATED AN INTERACTIVE EXCHANGE BETWEEN ALL THE DIFFERENT PARTIES AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. FOR HOW WELL DID THE WINE WORK LOOSENING OF THE LIPS OF YOUR PARTICIPANTS? YEAH, DON'T NOTICE. WE DON'T SERVE Y YOU KNOW WHAT THE WINE ACTUALLY DIDN'T START FLOWING UNTIL ACTUALLY, EVEN THOUGH EVERYONE HAVE THEIR GLASS AFTER THE INTERACTIVE CONVERSATION, AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT THEY KEPT US THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME AFTER THE MEETING BECAUSE. THIS IS SUCH A HOT TOPIC FOR A LOT OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY REALLY IT WAS A REALLY PLEASANT ENVIRONMENT. I HAVE TO TELL YOU AND EVEN THOUGH NOT EVERYBODY AGREED. IT WAS JUST A REALLY POSITIVE CONVERSATION. AND EVEN TODAY WE'VE MET WITH SEVERAL STAKEHOLDERS AND NOT EVERYBODY'S NECESSARILY. HOW'S THE SAME PRIORITIES? IT. IT JUST HAS BEEN VERY COLLABORATIVE. AND I THINK THAT THAT COLLABORATION AND THAT TRANSPARENCY I THINK THOSE TWO TERMS WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT I HAVE THE OTHER ONE THING I APOLOGIZE IS THAT. PARKING IS NOT PERFECT, AND I THINK EVERYBODY CAN APPRECIATE THAT.
AND THAT'S WHY I WAS TALKING ABOUT INCREMENTAL CHANGES BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE THINGS THAT WE'RE ALL GONNA TRY, POTENTIALLY. AND THEY MAY NOT ALL WORK PERFECTLY, BUT THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE AGILE AND ADAPT. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT TRANSPARENCY AND COLLABORATION. IS THAT THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING AND NOT EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE 100% BUT THAT OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO FIX IT AND TRY TO MAKE IT BETTER. I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE INTENT TO GAIN THE TRUST
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AND SUPPORT OF THE BUSINESSES AND THE AND THE COMMUNITY IS REALLY GOING TO BE IMPERATIVE.SO THAT COLLABORATIVE APPROACHES, YOU KNOW, REALLY AN IMPORTANT PART OF HOW TO MAKE SURE THIS PROJECT IS SUCCESSFUL. GOOD MORNING. I THINK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I THINK OF FINDING A BALANCE BETWEEN NOW THAT THEY'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION BETWEEN.
EMPLOYEE PARKING AND CUSTOMER PARK, AND IT'S GOING TO BE VITAL IN KEY. I THINK THAT'S WHY IT'S ON THE LIST HERE BECAUSE YOU CAN IMAGINE AFTER A LONG DAY AT WORK OR A LONG SHIFT, HAVING TO, YOU KNOW, WALK TO FIND YOUR CAR PARKING. OR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WORKING AT A JOB THAT'S NOT PAYING SO WELL AND THEN HAVING A LONG SHIFT AND THEN HAPPEN TO TAKE A LONG HIKE TO YOUR CAR IS PROBABLY UNSETTLING. SO. YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIND THAT GOOD BALANCE BETWEEN EMPLOYEE PARKING IN RETAIL PART IN HER CUSTOMER PARKING WILL BE GREAT.
APPRECIATE THAT. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM. 20 0928
[Presentation on Liquid Waste Ordinance for the City of McKinney]
PRESENTATION ON LIQUID WASTE ORDINANCE OF CITY OF MCKINNEY, JULIA HUNT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAREN. COUNSEL I'M JULIA HUNT, YOUR INTERIM PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. AND I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT AN IMPORTANT PART OF PUBLIC WORKS ARE SANITARY SEWER COLLECTION SYSTEM. AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A LIQUID WASTE ORDINANCE. SO THE CITY OF MCKINNEY SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM IS 728 MILES. WE HAVE PIPES RANGING IN DIAMETER FROM FOREIGN TCH FOUR INCH IN DIAMETER, ALL THE WAY TO 48 INCH IN DIAMETER. WE MAINTAIN AND OPERATE OVER SEVEN SEWER LIFT STATIONS. AND 14,500 PLUS MANHOLES. WE UTILIZE WHAT'S CALLED A CAPACITY MANAGEMENT OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE PLAN OR SEE MOM AS IT WILL BE REFERRED TO THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION. SO WHAT IS A C MOM? SEE, MOM IS A PLAN AND ITS INTENT IS TO PROVIDE YOU WITH OPERATIONAL GUIDANCE SO THAT YOU REDUCE SANITARY SEWER OUTFLOWS OR OVERFLOWS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. IN 2015 NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT. HAD A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH ITS CONTRACTING CITIES. TO DEVELOP A SEAM HOME FOR THEIR SYSTEMS, AND THIS WAS IN RESPONSE TO AN EPA VISIT TO NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT AND THEIR PARTNER CITIES. SO THE DOCUMENT PROVIDES A STRUCTURED PLAN FOR HOW WE SHOULD EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY MAINTAIN AND OPERATE THE SYSTEM. AND WE HAVE ALSO SPECIFIC PLANS FOR IDENTIFYING WHERE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED. MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT ALSO HAS SPECIFIC MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES AND OPERATIONS ACTIVITIES THAT WE NEED THIO DOOR THAT WE HAVE ALREADY AGREED TO IN OUR SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOW INITIATIVE. WITH T C E Q. WHICH IS DOCUMENTED IN AN ENFORCEMENT CASE THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM. SO WHAT IS THE SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOW? IT IS A VERY UNPLEASANT OCCURRENCE. AND THIS IS A PHOTO OF ONE OCCURRING AND ITS BABY. IT IS A VIOLATION OF TEXAS WATER CODE AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS. SO HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN? HOW DOES THE SANITARY SEWER YOU HAVE THE OF. THIS.THE SEWAGE LEAVE THE SYSTEM. SO CAUSES CAN INCLUDE THAT THE SEWER SYSTEM BECOMES BLOCKED.
GREAT. HARDENED GREASED IS ONE OF THE CAUSES OF BLOCKAGES, DEBRIS GETTING INTO THE SYSTEM, MAYBE CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS. ALINE MAY BREAK UNDERGROUND AND CAUSE A BLOCKAGE. THERE MAY BE CRACKS AND ROOTS AND OTHER BLOCKAGES THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A RAIN EVENT. THAT IT ALLOWS STORMWATER TO COME INTO THE SANITARY SEWER. AND THEN THAT CREATES A CAPACITY CONDITION WHERE THAT CENTURY SIR WAS NOT DESIGNED TO TAKE IN STORMWATER. AND ALSO POWER FAILURES THAT LIFT STATIONS CAN ALSO CAUSE SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOW. CAN YOU. SO LIKE HOW MANY TIMES DOES MAKE ANY EXPERIENCE THAT IN A YEAR MEANS THAT ONCE OR TWICE ONCE EVERY THREE YEARS? WHAT IS THAT, SO I ACTUALLY HAVE A GRAPH THE NEXT SLIDE? I THINK IT IS AFTER THIS TO SHOW YOU THAT, OK ACRES AND I WILL GO INTO DETAIL ON THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IN THIS PRESENTATION. GOING BACK TO THE BLOCKAGES SO FATS, OILS AND GREASES THAT GET INTO OUR SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM. SPECIFICALLY FROM FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS, SO THAT CAN BE RESTAURANTS, NURSING HOMES, SCHOOLS, PLACES THAT COOK MEALS. IF THAT'S NOT. MONITORED OR MAINTAINED CORRECTLY THAT GETS INTO THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM CAUSES BLOCKAGES, WHICH
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CAN THEN RESULT IN A SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOW. SO YOU KNOW, TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW OFTEN DOES THIS HAPPEN IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY? THIS GRAPH SHOWS YOU WE LOOKED AT FIVE YEARS WORTH OF INFORMATION. AND SO THE YEARS AIR SHOWN BY DIFFERENT COLORS WITH THE MEAT, MEDIUM OR DARKER, BLUE BEING 2015 RED IS 2016 GREEN 2017 PURPLES, 2018 AND THEN THE MEDIUM OR LIGHTER BLUES ARE 2019. ON THE VERTICAL AXIS. YOU'LL SEE THE DIFFERENT CAUSES OF THESE OVERFLOWS AND THE PREDOMINANT CAUSE OR THE. GREECE IS CAUSING THE MOST OVERFLOWS OF ANYTHING IN OUR SYSTEM RIGHT NOW. SO WHEN THESE HAPPEN I MEAN, ARE WE HAVING THAT WASTE WATER? COME UP INDOOR STREETS? YES. SO WHEN OVERFLOW OCCURS, IT CAN COME UP INTO THE STREET WHEREVER THE MANHOLES LOCATED SO IT MIGHT BE LOCATED. IN AN EASEMENT NEAR PARK NEAR A WATERWAY IN A STREET WHEREVER THE MANHOLE IS LOCATED, WHERE THE BLOCKAGE CAUSES THE FLOAT TO COME UP OUT OF THE MANHOLE. THEN THAT WATER RUNS DOWN AND JUST INTO OUR IT CAN GET INTO THE STREAMS, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S A VIOLATION. TEXAS WATER COAT IN FEDERAL REGULATION. SO IN LOOKING AT JUST 2019 THE SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOWS BY CAUSE THE RED PART OF THIS PIE CHART IS THE GREASE. SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY TALKING TO YOU ABOUT WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT FATS, OILS AND GREASES SINCE THIS IS THE LARGEST CAUSE OF OVERFLOWS IN OUR SYSTEM. AND YOU'LL HEAR SEA FOG AZAN ACRONYM, WHICH STANDS FOR FATS OILS IN GREECE. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY DOING IS PUBLIC OUTREACH AND EDUCATION. SO WHEN OUR ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION COORDINATOR IS OUT, TALKING TO THE PUBLIC ON ANY TOPIC SHE TRIES TO FIT IN. EDUCATION ABOUT FATS, OILS AND GREASE AND HOW TO DISPOSE OF THOSE PROPERLY. GREASE TRAP INSTALLATIONS FOR THOSE FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS WHEN THEY ARE CONSTRUCTED ARE THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE THAT IS ADOPTED BY THE CITY.MCKINNEY REQUIRES THAT THOSE GREASE INTERCEPTORS OR GREECE REDUCTION DEVICES GO IN WITH THAT CONSTRUCTION. WHAT? WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE. AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY IS IMPLEMENTING GREASE TRAP INSPECTION AND CLEANING ENFORCEMENT THROUGH A LIQUID WASTE ORDINANCE. AND THEN ALSO PERMITTING LIQUID WASTE HAULERS. TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW MANY GREASE TRAPS OR WHAT'S GOING ON WITH GREASE TRAPS IN THE CITY OF BIKINI. THE YEARS AIR ON THE HORIZONTAL AXIS OF THIS CRAFT, RANGING FROM 2011, WITH THE FINAL BAR BEING 2020, AND THE NUMBER OF GREASE TRAPS IN THIS CITY IS SHOWN ON THE NUMBERS ON THE VERTICAL AXIS.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE NUMBER OF GREASE TRAPS IN THE CITY IT'S BEEN GROWING OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS. WE'RE CURRENTLY OVER 600 GREASE TRAPS IN THE CITY. THIS IS JUST GIVE YOU NAYDA IF YOU TOOK SO MOST GREASE TRAPS ARE LOCATED OUTDOORS, AND THAT IS WHAT THE PLUMBING CODE CALLS FOR IT IF YOU TOOK THE LIDS OFF OF THE GREASE TRAPS, THIS IS WHAT SHE WOULD SEE. THIS IS AN INTERIOR GREASE TRAP, WHICH IS NOT DESIRABLE. BUT THERE ARE SOME SITUATIONS WHERE THIS HAS BEEN ALLOWED BECAUSE OF JUST SPACE CONSTRAINTS. SO THE OBJECTIVES IN THE LIQUID WASTE ORDINANCE OR TO AID IN PREVENTING THE SANDERS WHO WERE OVERFLOWS? UM, BUT ALSO. TO REMOTE, PROPER MAINTENANCE OF GREASE TRAPS AND GREAT TRAPS. AND WE DO HAVE A NUMBER A LARGE NUMBER OF FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS ALREADY DOING THIS. UM, AND FOR THAT, WE'RE VERY THANKFUL. HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME THAT NEED ENCOURAGEMENT THROUGH OUR ABILITY TO POINT TO AN ORDINANCE. THE ORDINANCE WOULD ENSURE PROPER HANDLING, DISPOSAL AND TRANSPORT OF WASTE, ALSO BY PERMITTING THE LIQUID WASTE HAULERS. AND THE LIQUID WASTE ORDINANCE ALSO BRINGS US INTO COMPLIANCE WITH OUR MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THAT WE EXECUTED WITH NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT. WE'VE ALSO IN THIS LIQUID PROPOSED LIQUID WASTE ORDINANCE INCORPORATED COMPARTMENT. MODEL REQUIREMENTS THAT WE FOUND FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS AND BASICALLY WHAT IT WOULD BOIL DOWN TO IS THE CLEANING SHOULD OCCUR A MINIMUM OF EVERY 90 DAYS OR THE 25% RULE THAN 25% RULES WHEN YOU'RE GREECE AND YOU'RE SOLIDS. ADDED TOGETHER EQUAL 25% OF THE WET DEPTH OF THE GREASE TRAP. AND IT WOULD REQUIRE 100% PUMP OUT SO SOMETIMES COMPANIES MAY COME OUT AND ONLY PUMP OUT PART OF THE GREASE TRAP. THIS ORDINANCE WOULD REQUIRE THAT IT BE FULLY CLEANED EACH TIME THEY COME OUT. WE'RE ALSO INCLUDING A VARIANCE IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO ALLOW A VARIANCE
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FROM THESE TIME THESE REQUIREMENTS IF THE CLEANING FREQUENCY SPECIFIED HERE IS NOT REQUIRED BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T GENERATED THAT MUCH GREASE. THE LIQUID WASTE HAULERS ARE THE TRANSPORTERS OPERATE VEHICLES FOR THE PURPOSE OF HAULING VARIOUS TYPES OF LIQUID WASTE.THE TC. HUGH DOES PERMIT AND REQUIRE ANNUAL REPORTING FROM THESE LIQUID WASTE HAULERS.
MOST LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ALSO PERMIT THE LIQUID WASTE HAULERS AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS TO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF PROTECTION TOW US. THESE LIQUID WASTE HAULERS ARE PERMITTED WITH Q. AND THAT THEIR EQUIPMENT IS TIGHT SO THAT GREECE IS NOT LEAKING OVER THE STREETS OF MCKINNEY. AND THAT WE CAN ALSO SEE WE CAN ALSO MONITOR THIS GREASE FROM ITS ORIGIN ALL THE WAY TO PROPER DISPOSAL SO WE CAN MAKE SURE IT'S NOT ENDING UP IN OUR SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM OR SOMEONE ELSE'S. SOME OF THE CITIES HAVE A PERMIT FEE FOR PERMITTING THE LIQUID WASTE HAULERS AND WE'VE COLLECTED THAT INFORMATION AND SHOWN IT HERE FOR YOU SO. THOSE FEES HAVE RANGED FROM $100 TO $300, DEPENDING ON THE CITY. AND YOU PERMIT THE VEHICLE. THEY COME IN FOR AN INSPECTION. SO A CITY STAFF PERSON ACTUALLY HAS A CHECKLIST WHERE THEY INSPECT THE VEHICLE TO MAKE SURE IT'S REGISTERED OR PERMITTED. WITH T C Q. AND THEN A STICKER IS ISSUED IN THAT STICKER MUST BE PROMINENTLY DISPLAYED ON THAT.
THAT VEHICLE WHILE THEY'RE IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. SO WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT GREASE TRAPS ARE REQUIRED AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION. CURRENTLY, WE ARE INSPECTING THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF GREASE TRAPS ONCE A YEAR. WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS TO ADOPT A LIQUID WASTE ORDINANCE TO BRING IN SOME CLEANING REQUIREMENTS THAT COULD BE ENFORCED AND. JUST AS A NOTE. IT DOES ALSO PROVIDE AN OPTION FOR SELF CLEANING. AT THE SMALL TRAPS THOSE AIR LESS THAN 15 GALLONS AND THEN ALSO IMPLEMENTING THE PERMITTING OF LIQUID WASTE HAULERS. JULIA DISTRICT. QUICK QUESTION. SO IT SAYS, OPTION FOR SELF CLEANING TRAPS. WHAT THE SELF CLEANING MEAN IN THIS CASE WOULDN'T LOOK LIKE IT ACTUALLY MEANS TAKING ABSORBENT MATERIAL AND. A PERSON PHYSICALLY REMOVING THAT GREECE THAT YOU SAW AT THE TOP OF THAT GREASE TRAP THAT I SHOWED YOU. SO THEN THAT JUST GOES TO THE LANDFILL AFTER THEIR BEST LAMP. AND IT'S NOT THAT LIQUID WASTE DOLLARS ARE NOT OPERATING IN MCKINNEY. WE JUST AREN'T WE JUST DON'T PERMIT HIM. WE DON'T PERMIT THAT'S CORRECT THE STATE STILL THOSE EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T AT THE MOMENT, WE HOPE THAT EVERYONE'S USING ONE THAT IS PERMITTED BY THE STATE. THAT'S WHAT WE CAN'T SAY FOR SURE. I HAD A QUICK QUESTION. BACK TO THE 25% RULE WHO ACTUALLY GOES OUT AND CHECKS THE GREASE TRAPS. AND REQUIRES THEM. TO PUMP IT OUT. SO IT OVER. WE HAVE A PRE TREATMENT COORDINATOR WHO VISITS THE GREASE TRAPS RIGHT NOW, AND MAINLY, HE'S LOOKING AT STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE GREASE TRAPS. WHEN HE DOES OBSERVED THE GREASE TRAPS OR FULL, HE DOES ADVISE THE FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT THAT THEY NEED. TO GET IT PUMPED OUT. WHAT HE ENCOUNTERS IS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE COOPERATIVE.
BUT WHAT HE DOES ENCOUNTER IS THAT SOME PEOPLE ASKED TO SEE THE ORDINANCE WHERE IT SAYS THEY HAVE TO DO THAT. OKAY? HOW MANY TIMES DOES HE GO BY EACH RESTAURANT? ONCE HE ANSWER YOU? SO EAT SO RESTAURANTS COULD ACTUALLY BE OVER THE LIMIT. FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. AND WE NOT CATCH HIM. THERE'S NO TEETH. GORDON. THAT'S TRUE, SO WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE A WASTEWATER ORDINANCE THAT SAYS NO ONE CAN DO ANYTHING TO HARM THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM. BUT THAT LANGUAGE IS SO BROAD AND IT DOESN'T PROVIDE THIS KIND OF FREQUENCY CLEANING IN THIS FREQUENCY. CLEANING IS WHAT'S RECOMMENDED BY THE STATE IS TO ACTUALLY SAY THAT YOU NEED TO CLEAN YOUR GREASE TRAP EVERY 90 DAYS. OR THE 25% RULE GETS MORE GUIDANCE. AND IN A CITY OF MCCAIN. WE'VE NEVER HAD THIS TYPE OF ORDINANCE. I JUST FIND THAT FASCINATING. WE SAD. I MEAN, I'M JUST LIKE WITH HAVE TO DEFER TIO. GOOD QUESTION. WE HAD ONE PREPARED ABOUT 45 YEARS AGO. READY TO GO OUT FOR SOME REASON WE DIDN'T GET TO THE COUNCIL. ENOUGH IS BECAUSE THE DIRECTOR AT THE TIME, BUT YEAH, WE HAD ONE. SO WE'RE GETTING READY TO GO. BUT HERE WE ARE. I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD SEE LESS PICTURES OF THOSE GREASE THINGS. I MEAN, IF WE HAD SOME ORDERS LIKE THAT, YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT THE COULD HAVE BEEN AROUND THE TIME THAT WE HAD THE ENFORCEMENT ACTION. S SO WE FOCUSED OUR EFFORTS BACK ON CLEANING WHAT WE NEEDED TO CLEAN AND THEY GOT LEFT. SO IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT WE SHOULD INSPECT THOSE GREASE TRAPS MORE FREQUENTLY. AND ONCE A YEAR. DON'T LET THE EXPERT I WOULD
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THINK SO. I MEAN, ESPECIALLY IF I'M RESTAURANT. I'M JUST TRYING TO AVOID SOMETHING I DIDN'T WHAT? WE JUST HAD AN INSPECTION LAST MONTH AT SOME USE MORE GREASE THAN OTHERS. SO THERE'S PROBABLY A SCHEDULE DEPENDING ON THE KIND OF. ISN'T THERE WILL BE NO NEED TO INSPECT IT BECAUSE HE'S INSPECTING THE. STRUCTURE OF STANDARDS OF IT AT THIS POINT, AND THERE IS NO TEETH, SO IN A MATTER OF ITS FULL OR NOT, IT'S NOTHING THAT HE CAN DO AT THIS POINT, SO INSPECTING IT TWICE A YEAR IS NOT GOING TO MAKE THEM. EMPTY IT IF THERE'S NOTHING THAT HE COULD DO AT THIS POINT, MA'AM, YOU WERE SAYING THAT THE LIQUID WASTE HAULERS THAT WE AT THIS POINT WOULD HOPE THAT THEY ARE PERMITTED BY THE STATE. BUT AT THIS POINT THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE STATE TROOPERS. OR WHOEVER IS MONITORING THE STREETS THAT THEY HAVE WHATEVER LICENSING THAT THEY NEED THIO DRIVE PROPERLY ON THE STREET. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, AND ALSO THE FACT THAT THEY'RE HAULING TEO, A DISPOSAL SITE THAT SHOULD ALSO BE REQUIRING THAT THEY HAVE A PERMIT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY DOCUMENTATION. WHICH WE WILL HAVE IF WE PERMIT THEM. THE QUESTIONS, OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO ONE OF THE THINGS I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE WANT TO KNOW. MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IS HOW MIGHT THIS IMPACT OUR DOWNTOWN RESTAURANTS? CURRENTLY THERE ARE 26 GREASE TRAPS IN DOWNTOWN. SO, THOUGH, AND THAT WAS ALREADY CLEANING THEIR GREASE TRAPS ON A THREE MONTH SCHEDULE WOULD HAVE NO ADDITIONAL EXPENSE. AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF RESTAURANTS THAT AIR CLEANING ON A THREE MONTH SCHEDULE. THOSE WHO HAVE NOT BEEN CLEANING. WOULD OBVIOUSLY NEED TO BE HEART WOULD NEED TO HIRE A LIQUID WASTE HAULER IN THE GREASE TRAP CONTAINS THE 25% DEPTH OR EVERY 90 DAYS SO THEY MIGHT INCUR SOME ADDITIONAL EXPENSE FOR THE CLEANING OF THE GREASE TRAP. IF THEY HAVE A GREASE TRAPS SMALLER THAN 15 GALLONS. THEY CAN OPT YOURSELF CLEAN, BUT WE CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT TO WORK WITH ALL OF OUR FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS AND TRYING TO GET THEM TO COMPLY. RATHER THAN GO RIGHT IN WITH ENFORCEMENT. GONNA GIVE YOU A HARD TIME. GOOD. WHY WOULD THIS SLIDE BE IMPORTANT? AS COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS LIE SAYS THAT WE HAVE 600 GREASE TRAPS IN THIS CITY. CAN WE HAVE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY RESTAURANTS IN THE CITY SO. WHY, WITH 26 DOWNTOWN RESTAURANTS BE ANY MORE IMPORTANT. IN THE HUNDREDS OF RESTAURANTS THAT WE HAVE ACROSS THE CITY, AND THEY'RE NOT OK.YOU'RE NOT. IT WON'T BE CLEAR. SO ANYBODY ELSE WATCHING AROUND THE CITY? IT SEES THIS SLIDE.
IT'S NOT GOING TO FEEL LIKE. HE'S DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS OR ANY MORE IMPORTANT THAN THEY ARE.
YES, THANK YOU APPRECIATE THIS BECAUSE THIS IS A CITYWIDE ORDINANCE. SO I MEAN, THE REASON THAT YOU WOULD DO THAT SHOW THE DOWNTOWN IS BECAUSE I MEAN, THESE ARE OLD BUILDING. I MEAN, THERE'S NO NEW BUILDINGS AROUND HERE. AND SO THE. SO THE 26 THAT AIR HERE. I MEAN, HOW MANY OF THEM WERE BUILT AN UNDERGROUND I MEAN, ARE ARE ALL THESE ABOVE GROUND. NO, THEY'RE NOT ALL ABOVE GROUND. THERE WAS A COMBINATION OF OUTSIDE IN GROUND AND UNDER THE SINK, AND I DON'T HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF THOSE NUMBERS. BUT THERE'S A COMBINATION. YOU'RE CORRECT.
THE SMALLER ONES ARE MAINLY IN DOWNTOWN BECAUSE OF THE SPACE LIMITATIONS WITH THESE, IN FACT THAT THEY BUILT WAY ON OUR WAY BEFORE THIS WAS EVEN AN ISSUE. YES, OKAY, BUT THOSE SMALLER ONES WOULD BE THIS SELF CLEANING ONES THAT WOULD BE EXEMPT OR HAVE. MAYBE CAN HAVE AN EXEMPTION IF THEY'RE 15 GALLONS. YES, THE ONES THEY'RE 15 GALLONS OR LESS. FORTUNATELY WE HAVE THE 100 YEAR OLD PIPE DOWN HERE STRONGER. SO SOME ORDINANCE TRANSITION IDEAS I KNOW, YOU KNOW. SOME OF YOU HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERN OVER, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE JUST NOW HEARING ABOUT THIS? NO ADOPT GOING HEAD ADOPTING THE ORDINANCE. OUR PLAN WAS TO BRING IT TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING. BUT IF YOU DESIRE WE COULD OFFER A GRACE PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS BEFORE IT BECOMES EFFECTIVE IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE IT BECOME EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. WE WOULD USE THAT TIME FRAME TO DO SOME TARGETED EDUCATION AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S EXPECTED. BUT ADOPTING THIS ORDINANCE WILL GO AHEAD AND POSITION ISTS TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR MOU WITH NORTH TEXAS MUSICAL WATER DISTRICT AND ALSO WITH OUR SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOW INITIATIVE THAT WE HAVE. DO YOU KNOW IF I WERE SISTER CITIES, THEY ALL HAVE AN ORDINANCE. THE ONES THAT I KNOW THEY DEFINITELY DO. AND SISTER CITIES WILL BE ALLEN FRESCO ON THAT THEY'RE NOT UNLIKE A
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CERTAIN. WE'VE GOT PLANO ON HERE AND. I KNOW THAT, UM. I HAD AN OUT HERE. THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL COSTS BECAUSE WE ALREADY SENT AN INSPECTOR ONCE A YEAR TO INSPECT THE STRUCTURAL STANDARDS, SO THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL COST THERE. PERMITTING PROCESS.OBVIOUSLY, THE FEE WILL. COVER ANY COST FOR THAT PROCESS. THAT'S WHY WE ADMINISTER A FEE FOR THAT. WE FORESEE ANY OTHER COST THAT MAY WE KNOW WHAT THAT COSTS MAYBE. JUST THEIR ADDITIONAL CLEANING, CLEANING THE GREASE TRAP MORE FREQUENTLY. IF THEY'RE NOT ALREADY. I MEAN IT COST TO THE CITY. OH COST TO THE CITY JUST FOR THE INSPECTOR TO INSPECT THE TRUCKS. SO WHERE'S THE TEETH? A CZ COUNCILMAN. SCHIMMEL SAID. WHERE'S THE TEETH IN ALL THIS? I MEAN, SOMEBODY'S NOT IN COMPLIANCE. WHAT'S THE ORDINANCE WILL LIST WHAT THE PENALTY IS. I THINK IT IS CURRENTLY $2000. AND WE SAID CURRENTLY IS THAT WAY. HAVE A DRAFT. OKAY, THE DRAFT. I'M SORRY. WE HAVE A DRAFT READY FOR YOU. THAT CURRENTLY SHOWS $2000. THE. WE HAVE DRAFTED SOME IDEAS OF GOING IN THE FIRST TIME WITH A NOTICE OF VIOLATION, WHICH WOULD JUST BE IN WRITING. WE'D SIT DOWN WITH YOU GO OVER SOME GOOD PRACTICES, AND THEN WE'D COME BACK AND VISIT SO. WE WANT TO MAKE THIS A MULTISTEP PROCESS, BUT EVENTUALLY, IF THERE'S NOT COMPLIANCE, WE WOULD CONSUMPTION ARE INTERNS. THAT'S A GREAT APPROACH AND THEN USE THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE. DISCUSSED, OTHER ORDINANCES HAVING A PHASED IN PERIOD. GENERALLY. LYING ABOUT IT BEING OVERNIGHT, SO OVER THERE LOVE CONCEPT, APOLOGIZE OF USING IT FOR EDUCATION AS WELL. OKAY? MR MAYOR PRO TEM. I JUST WANTED TO ADD A PERSPECTIVE AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION. AS YOU ALL KNOW, I THINK. MISS HUNT HAS DONE A VERY NICE JOB OUTLINING WHY THIS IS NECESSARY. BUT JUST KEEP IN MIND. THIS IS AN EXPANDED REGULATORY SYSTEM. WE ARE EXPANDING OUR REGULATIONS. ON WITH RESPECT TO IN THIS CASE, GREASE TRAPS AND MAINTENANCE OF IT AND PERMITTING OF THE VEHICLES. SO YOU MAY HEAR ABOUT THAT YOU MAY HEAR FROM FOLKS THAT THE CITY IS, YOU KNOW, EXPANDING ITS REGULATORY FOOTPRINT, SO TO SPEAK. IT'S NOT UNUSUAL, AS EVIDENCED BY THIS INFORMATION ABOVE YOU. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS. OTHER CITIES ARE ALREADY DOING.
BUT YOU MAY HEAR FROM FOLKS I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL IS AWARE OF THAT.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE TAKEN THE TWO STEP APPROACH. WE'RE EDUCATING YOU WITH WORK SESSION. AGING YOU ON WHAT'S THE YOU KNOW, AND I THINK JULIE HAS ONE MORE SLIDE ON SOME SOME OPTIONS FOR YOU. AND THEN THEN IT WILL BE A DECISION WILL COME BACK WITH AN ACTUAL ORDNANCE DRAFT. HEY, MR GRIMES. WHOMEVER MAY ANSWER THIS QUESTION. IT LOOKS LIKE IN 2019 WE HAD OVER OR WRITE ABOUT 60 BLOCKAGES. AND SO WHAT IS THE COST TO THE CITY? TO CLEAR OUR CLOTHES. BLOCKAGES DO WE HAVE AROUND ABOUT WHAT IS THAT COSTS AND MANPOWER TRUCK POWER? SURE, CLEARING THE BLOCKAGE IS MISS HUNT MIGHT HAVE THE DETAILS MORE. I COULD JUST GIVE YOU A 30,000 FT VIEW. IT'S EXPENSIVE WHEN YOU HAVE TO HIRE CREW IN ON OVERTIME ON OFF HOURS TO FIX A SANITARY, SEWER LINE BREAK OR A CLOG IN THE SYSTEM. IT. AND WE AND THEY HAVE AN AFTER HOURS, OFTENTIMES WHEN A RESTAURANT HAS A BACK UP. ON A WEEKEND. THEIR BUSINESS IS AT STAKE, AND THEY'RE GONNA EXPECT US TO RESPOND VERY QUICKLY, SO IT IS A SERIOUS ISSUE. ONE THING. TO YOUR POINT OF YOUR QUESTION ABOUT COST. WE ALSO HAVE SOME LARGE FOOD MANUFACTURERS AND MCKINNEY IN THE PAST HAVE HAD SOME ISSUES CAUSE IS THE SAME PROBLEM BUT ON A LARGER SCALE, SO. THE 60 MAY NOT ALL BE RESTAURANTS AS SHE INDICATED THAT WE DO HAVE FOOD MANUFACTURERS, WHICH HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF. SOLID EARTH LIQUID WASTE, BUT OF COURSE, THAT LARGER SYSTEMS IN THEIR BUSINESSES AND. IF THEY FAIL. THEY DO HAVE PROBLEMS, TOO. BUT ONE THING I WANTED TO MENTION WHAT I CAME UP HERE WAS, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE FINE AND THE CITATIONS IF WE HAVE HABITUAL VIOLATORS THAT DON'T. MAKE CHANGES. WE ALSO HAVE REVOCATION OF CEO AND INJUNCTIVE RELIEF, WHICH WILL FOLLOW STEP. UH. ENFORCEMENT YOU CAN'T JUST GET A TICKET
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EVERY DAY AND CONTINUE TO OPERATE A RESTAURANT. SO IF A RESTAURANT IS BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW, ARE THEY REQUIRED TO HAVE A. RESTRAINT A GREASE TRAPS SOMEWHERE. YES, AND SO THAT'S THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE. ARE WE HAVIN ORDNANCE COVERS THAT RIGHT NOW? OKAY, AND SO THAT'S AND TO YOUR POINT WITH ANY. MANUFACTURER FOOD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE HAVE, LIKE, IF THEY'RE MANUFACTURING IF THEY'RE CREATING GREECE, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SYSTEM. UH, WHICH. MONITORS AND RELEASES APPROPRIATELY AND DISPOSAL AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT ARE DIFFERENT FOR A LARGE FOOD MANUFACTURER THAT, OKAY LOOK AT THOSE ALSO HAVE SOME. RELEASES OCCASIONALLY THAT CAUSED THE PROBLEMS THAT TRULY WAS. SO LET'S SAY YOU HAVE SOMEBODY AND IT DOES. AND YOU KNOW WE'RE WE'RE $50,000 BECAUSE OF THIS ONE COS. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, DO WE DO WE GO BACK TO COMPANY AND WE HAVE WAS DRESSED TO GO? YES, WE HAD ONE YEARS AGO, AND IT WAS EXPENSIVE FOR THE COMPANY AND US AND THE NORTH TEXAS TOO.CORRECT. OKAY, GOOD. SO JUST CLARIFICATION ON THE INDUSTRIES THAT ARE MANUFACTURING THERE, ACTUALLY MONITORED BY NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT THEY HANDLE BECAUSE THEY'RE SIGNIFICANT INDUSTRIAL USER, SO THEY'RE DIFFERENT CATEGORY THAN FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS.
TODAY. THIS ORDINANCE IS ADDRESSING FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU KNOW MY POINT IS THAT THE CITY WILL INCUR AND WE HAVE BEEN INCURRING SIGNIFICANT COST CLEANING UP THESE CLOGS, AND THAT'S OVERTIME COSTS. THAT'S EQUIPMENT COSTS. THAT'S CLEAN UP COSTS, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHERE THESE BACKUPS ARE DRAINING INTO PARKS INTO PONDS INTO WHATEVER THAT IS. WE'RE TAKING ON THESE COSTS, AND SO I'D BE IN FAVOR OF. LIMITING THIS TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. COURSE ABSOLUTELY SURE, IN ADDITIONAL COSTS, AN ADDITIONAL TO THE COST THAT YOU'RE OUTLINING OUR THAT RECURRENCE OF THESE TYPES OF OVERFLOWS PUT YOU IN A POSITION TO BE IN VIOLATION OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT, WHICH IS A FINE OKAY? SO. WE LAID OUT SOME OPTIONS. ONE WOULD BE TO ADOPT A LIQUID WASTE ORDINANCE AND AH HOLLER PERMIT FEE. ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO ADOPT THE LIQUID WASTE ORDINANCE PERMIT THE HAULERS BUT NOT CHARGE A FEE FOR THAT. AND OPTION THREE. WE COULD DO NOTHING. BUT THEN THAT PUTS US IN A POSITION OF NOT BEING IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR OUR AGREEMENT WITH NORTH TEXAS AND OUR SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOW INITIATIVE. DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S FAVOR THAT ONCE STRIKE THAT ONE OPTION. I WANT TO MARRY YOU. MR MAYOR. YOU STILL WITH US? I AM WITH YOU.
I'M CERTAINLY OPTION WONDER TOO. I'M NOT AN OPTION. THREE GUY. REMEMBER THE OPTION. I'M IN FAVOUR OPTION ONE OPTION ONE. ONE. AGREED. SO IF YOU IF YOU DO THAT OPTION ONE. HOW IS THE PERMIT FEE DETERMINED? SO WE DID THAT SURVEY TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT COMES AROUND HERE CHARGING AND WE WERE THINKING THAT $200 WAS IN LINE WITH WHAT THE OTHERS WERE DOING. ON. WHAT DO WE USE THAT FOR? IT'S THE ANNUAL APARTMENT FEE AND THEN WE WOULD USE IT TO OFFSET THE COST OF OUR PRE TREATMENT COORDINATOR SALARY AND ANY ADDITIONAL HELP. WE HAD TO GET IN ORDER TO DO THESE INSPECTIONS, AND THAT FEE IS. ON EACH VEHICLE COMES INTO MCKINNEY. THEY NEED TO HAVE THAT. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO COME AND YOU'RE GONNA SUCK THE GREASE OUT, I NEED TO HAVE THAT PERMIT. UM, DO YOU WANT? DO WE KNOW HOW MANY VEHICLE I MEAN, IS THAT 10 VEHICLES IS AT 30 VEHICLES DOING THAT KIND OF HAVEN'T IDEA WAY ESTIMATE ABOUT 18. OKAY SO IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT A MONEY RAISER, AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT GONNA OKAY.
THAT'S FINE WOULD ALSO SERVE THE PURPOSE OF EDUCATING THE BUSINESS PEOPLE AS TO WHO IS LICENSED TO DO THAT IN MCKINNEY. YES, THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD SHARE THAT LIST WITH THEM. THERE'S A VERY GOOD POINT THAT ONCE THES. THESE TRUCKS ARE PERMITTED IN THESE COMPANIES WITH THEIR TRUCKS ARE PERMITTED THAT BECOMES INTO THE BUSINESS, SOMEONE THAT THEY KNOW THEY CAN HIRE THAT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE CITY. AND THAT WE HAVE MADE SURE THEY HAVE THEIR TEA CQ PERMIT AND THAT WE'RE WATCHING AND MAKE SURE THAT WHAT THEY ARE HAULING IS GOING TO THE DISPOSAL SITE THROUGH A MANIFEST FORM. BECAUSE THE BUSINESS IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR WHERE THE WASTE GOES. SO IT ALSO PROTECTS THE BUSINESS. OKAY, GREAT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, MAN. OKAY? FAR'S YOUR EDUCATIONAL. HERE IT GOES, I I'M DROWNED. FROM MY EXPERIENCES IN COURTROOMS ACROSS TEXAS. THERE'S THINGS THAT I HAVE ONLY DONE ONCE IN A
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COURTROOM AND WILL NEVER DO IT AGAIN BECAUSE YOU WERE EDUCATED, SO FIND A GREAT DEAL OF EDUCATIONAL VALUE AND BRINGING OFF VENDORS INTO THE COURTROOM TO TEACH THEM NOT TO DO THAT AGAIN. AND IF YOU MONITORED THAT MORE CLOSELY YOUR FIRST TWO YEARS AND GET THE WORD OUT THAT IT WILL BE ENFORCED, AND IT WILL BE COSTLY. I THINK YOU'LL HAVE A WHOLE HOUR COMPLIANCE GOING INTO THE FUTURE. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT BECAUSE BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT ALLOW, UM. YOU KNOW, I HAVE THIS GOING IN MAY ON DH. SAYS THIS ALLOWS A SIX MONTH GRACE PERIOD. SO IF WE DID THE ORDINANCE. YOU KNOW, IN DECEMBER AND THEN GAVE HIM KIND OF AH, SIX MONTH GRACE PERIOD THAT WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA STILL CHECK IT. WE'RE GOING LIKE THAT. WE WILL WRITE YOU UP, BUT WE WON'T. THERE'LL BE NO FINDS. I MEAN TO ME THAT THAT'S ALMOST A BETTER SOLUTION THAN SAYING, OK, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT FOR SIX MONTHS BECAUSE AND THEN EVEN AFTER THAT, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA WARN YOU STUFF LIKE THAT. SO TALK TO ME. I WOULD SEE THIS. I'D RATHER SEE THIS BE PUT IN SOONER THAN LATER WITH NOT A WHOLE LOT OF TEETH RIGHT AT THE FOR YOU FOR SIX MONTHS AND THEN PUT THE TEETH IN AND IN SIX MONTHS IS WHAT I WOULD SIR. FOR TO SEE. THAT'S THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION. YOU'RE PRO TEM. SO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE TO BE EFFECTIVE ON THE DATE THAT WE BRING IT TO YOU, BUT ADVISE OUR STAFF TO MOVE IN A SOFTWARE AND WRITE HIM UP. I MEAN, JUST SO WE CAN AT LEAST. YEAH, BUT NO, NO, REALLY FINDS OR FEES FOR SIX MONTHS, BUT TO ME, IT AT LEAST SENDS A WARNING OUT THERE THAT OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO WRITE YOU UP FOR THIS TICKETS NOT GOING BE HAVE YOU KNOW ANY FINES RIGHT NOW ASSOCIATED WITH IT, BUT NOW YOU'RE ON. YOU'RE ON OUR WATCH LIST TYPE OF THING. I MEAN, I. I'D RATHER SEE THAT THAN JUST SAYING. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT FOR SIX MONTHS. I AGREE. AND I MEAN, I THOUGHT. BASED ON WHAT THEY TOLD US ANYWAY. MANY PROTEIN IS THERE. IT WAS A PHASED APPROACH OR A STEP APPROACH ANYWAY. SO I MEAN, IF THE FIRST APPROACH TO THAT ISN'T A FINE, IT'S A WARNING. I THINK YOU MEAN KINDA GETTING A WARNING AND HOPEFULLY THAT WARNING ALLOWS HIM TO FIX IT. MAYBE YOU DON'T NEED TO NECESSARILY SIX MONTHS TO FIX IT, BUT DEFINITELY YOU TAKE THAT PHASE APPROACH TO. GETTING THEM TO FIX IT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT SIX MONTHS WORTH OF BLOCKAGE EITHER BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT RIGHT.ABSOLUTELY I MEAN, I WAS GOINGTO KNOW WAS GOING TO MOVE UNTIL THEY FIGURE THEY HAVE TO SO ANDERSON. NO. MOTIVATES SOMEBODY. ANYBODY ELSE QUESTIONS? WILL YOU HAVE FOR THAT PRESENTATION? THAT'S IT FOR THIS PRESENTATION. OKAY, THEN WE MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER.
[Presentation on License Agreements for Elevated Storage Tanks & Cell Antennas for the City of McKinney]
2009 PRESENTATION ON LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS AND SELL AND TENNIS FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, MISS JULIA. YOU'RE YOU'RE BACK. SO I JUST WANT TO TALK TO YOU FOR A SHORT TIME ABOUT LICENSE AGREEMENTS THAT OUR PLATE THAT ARE ALLOW FOR THE PLACEMENT OF INTENDED FACILITIES ON OUR ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS. THE CITY OF MCKINNEY MAINTAINS AN OPERATOR RATES EIGHT ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS, SO THAT'S OUR ACTIVE ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS, AND WE HAVE ONE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK. THAT'S OUT OF OPERATION, WHICH IS THE CHESS, NOT ELEVATED STORAGE TANK. IT. IT DOES HAVE ANTENNAS ON IT. SO ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS ARE USED AS TOWERS FOR COMMUNICATION PROVIDERS. AND THIS JUST GIVES YOU 90 OF WHEN YOU SEE THOSE ANTENNAS UP THERE. THEY'RE THEY'RE DIFFERENT PROVIDERS. AND OVER THE YEARS WE'VE HAD LEASES THAT GO IN THAT START IN DIFFERENT YEARS. SO I'VE SHOWN YOU THIS CHART, FOR EXAMPLE, IN 1997. WE EXECUTED FIVE LEASE AGREEMENTS. AND SO ON. SO THERE'S 19 EXISTING LEASES, SO THERE'S A LEASE FOR EVERY EVERY CELL PROVIDER ON EACH OF THE TANKS, SO IF THEY SELL PROVIDER IS ON THREE OF OUR TANKS, THEY HAVE THREE LEASES. THE LACE IS ALL SEEM TO HAVE SOME VARIOUS TERMS. THEY HAVE LANGUAGE THAT IS MORE ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE CELL PROVIDER THAN TO THE CITY IN SOME CASES. THE PAYMENTS VERY DEPENDING UPON WHEN THE LEASE WAS PUT IN PLACE, A RANGING FROM JUST UNDER $1400 A MONTH TO JUST A LITTLE OVER $2500 A MONTH. FISCAL YEAR 2020 THE REVENUE RECEIVED IS 462,400. AND WE DO HAVE FOUR LEASES THAT ARE CURRENTLY EXPIRED. SO OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS WITH WITH THE HELP OF THE CITY ATTORNEY WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT BEEN WORKING ON A NEW LICENSE AGREEMENT. AND THE PURPOSE IS TO STANDARDIZE THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE IN THESE AGREEMENTS SO THAT THEY'RE ALL CONSISTENT. UM, THEY ALLOW FOR[01:10:05]
USE OF THE PROPERTY AND DON'T GIVE ANY INHERENT RIGHTS THROUGH WHAT THE LANGUAGE IN THOSE LEASES DID. IT ALSO ESTABLISHES A STANDARD MONTHLY PAYMENT OF 3000 PER MONTH. WITH.AS EVERY FIVE YEARS IT WOULD INCREASE BY A CERTAIN PERCENT. WE ALSO INCORPORATES SECURITY REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'RE NOT IN THE ORIGINAL LEASES BECAUSE OF SINCE 9 11. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR WATER PROVIDERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK FACILITIES AIR SECURE, SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHO WE ALLOW TO ENTER THOSE FACILITIES. IT ALSO REQUIRES A CELL PROVIDER TO IDENTIFY THEIR EQUIPMENT. IT WAS REALLY DIFFICULT FOR OUR STAFF TO DO AN INVENTORY OF ALL OF THESE ANTENNAS AND FIGURE OUT WHO WHAT BELONGED TO EACH OF THE PROVIDERS IN WHICH EQUIPMENT IS STILL ACTIVE, IN WHICH EQUIPMENT MIGHT NOT BE ACTIVE.
AND IN THE PROCESS OF COMING TO US TO REQUEST TO PUT ANTENNAS ON THE CELL TOWERS. IT DOES REQUIRE. ALLOW US TO REQUIRE STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS, WHICH WE WERE DOING BEFORE, BUT THIS JUST MAKES IT VERY CLEAR TO THEM. SO WE'VE BEEN COORDINATING WITH SEVERAL OF THE CELL PROVIDER COS THEY'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE LICENSE AGREEMENT. OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. WE'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMENTS. WE'VE INCORPORATED SOME OF THOSE REVISIONS, BUT WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LICENSE AGREEMENT PROTECTS THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, FIRST AND FOREMOST. SO TERMINATION LETTERS HAVE BEEN SENT OUT FOR THE FOUR EXPIRED LEASES, AND THEY'VE BEEN PROVIDED WITH THE NEW LICENSE AGREEMENT. AND THEN AS THE OTHER LEASES EXPIRE OR WHEN THE COMPANY WANTS TO CHANGE OUT THEIR EQUIPMENT. WE WILL BE ASKING THEM IF THE CURRENT LEAST LANGUAGE ALLOWS IT. WE WILL. I ASKED THEM TO EXECUTE THE NEW LICENSE AGREEMENT. SO THAT'S OUR TRANSITION PLAN ON HOW TO GET EVERYBODY ON THAT NEW LICENSE AGREEMENT. SO THOSE THAT ARE EXPIRED HAVE BEEN GIVEN A COPY OF THE NEW LICENSE AGREEMENT. WE PROVIDED THEM 60 DAYS TO EXECUTE THAT NEW LICENSE AGREEMENT. IF THEY DON'T PROVIDE IT WITHIN THAT 60 DAYS, WE'LL SEND THEM ANOTHER NOTICE, ASKING THEM TO REMOVE THEIR EQUIPMENT WITHIN 30 DAYS. SO I REALLY JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHAT WE WERE UP TO WITH THOSE ANTENNAS AND HOW WE WERE PROCEEDING WITH THE NEW LICENSE AGREEMENT. AND NOW YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. COULD YOU IDENTIFY WANTS A SPRINT CARRIER? WHAT'S ON T CARRY? WE HAVE ATTEMPTED TO, AND I THINK WE'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB. WE STILL HAVE SOME EQUIPMENT ON THERE THAT WE BELIEVE IS ABANDONED. THAT'S THE BUDGET FOR SOME WIRE CUTTERS IN SOMEBODY. SO AS TEMPTING AND CLIMATE, BUT WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS CUT OFF SOMEONE'S SERVICE IN THE CITY. SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THAT. BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO TRY TO GET IT IDENTIFIED AND GET IT REMOVED IF IT'S ABANDONED, WELL, ME AND COUNCILMAN FRANKLIN WE CLIMBED 100 FT LADDER WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THE OTHER DAY, SO. WE COULD GO UP THERE, CLIMB AND GET THEIR BETTERS OUT. NO PROBLEM. I WANT VIDEO, ONDA, RELEASE OF AH, RELEASED BY YOU, TOO. SO IF 60 DAY NOTICE WITH ANOTHER 30 THEY NOTICE. IF THEY DON'T RESPOND AND. WE DON'T WANT TO CUT OFF ANYONE SERVICE. THEN WHAT DO WE DO? I CALL THE CITY ATTORNEY AND F. WHAT DO WE DO NOW? WE'LL START SERVING THEM. MR HOUSE IS APPROPRIATE. HOW DID THEY ACTUALLY ACCESS THE WATER TOWER TO GET DISCONNECT THEIR EQUIPMENT? I MEAN, DON'T THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE LET THEM ACCESS? YES. SO THEY DO HAVE TO CONTACT US TO GIVE THEM ACCESS THE NEW THE NEW LICENSE AGREEMENT ACTUALLY OUTLINES HOW TO EVEN GET AFTER HOURS ACCESS ON DH, SO THEY THEY DO COME OUT, AND THEY DO A LOT OF UPGRADING OF EQUIPMENT, WHICH IS HOW I THINK SOME OF THE ABANDONED EQUIPMENT IS STILL THERE IS THAT. WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF MAKING SURE THEY'RE PUTTING SOMETHING UP. WHAT'S COMING OFF? HAVE A COMMENT YES. I WAS JUST GOING, TEO RESPOND TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S QUESTION. IF THEY DON'T REMOVE THAT EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE AGREEMENT TO SEE EXACTLY EXACTLY WHAT THE CURRENT. LEASE AGREEMENT SAYS, BUT ARGUABLY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXERCISE SELF HELP AND GO ON TO THE TOWER AND REMOVE THAT EQUIPMENT THAT IS THE SUBJECT OF THE EXPIRED LEASE. NOW WE'LL HAVE TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS AND IDENTIFYING THAT EQUIPMENT. WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS IN POWER. IT'S THE RIGHT ONE, PARTICULARLY IF THEY'RE DEALING WITH THAT HAS A MICROWAVE TRANSMITTER ON IT WITH THE OTHER. TRANSMITTER'S CAN ALSO BE A SAFETY ISSUE. SO
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WE'VE WE'VE GOTTEN SOME PRETTY GOOD INPUT AND SOME ASSISTANCE FROM THE LARGER CARRIERS THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH. AND WE THINK WE'VE GOT RELATIONSHIPS ESTABLISHED LEAST WE HOPE WE HAVE. BETTER RELATIONSHIPS ESTABLISHED WITH THOSE WHO ARE IN CHARGE, UH, WORK WITH US AND HELP US TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT EQUIPMENT. ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THE NEW LICENSE AGREEMENT DOES IS IT REQUIRES EACH ONE OF THE PROVIDERS TO LABEL TO IDENTIFY THEIR EQUIPMENT ON THE TOWER, SO WE DON'T END UP IN THE SAME SITUATION. PLUS ANY TIME THEY CHANGE EQUIPMENT. ANY TIME THERE'S AN EXTENSION OF THE OFF THE LICENSE AGREEMENT. THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THE CITY WITH A LIST. UH DOCUMENTS THE EQUIPMENT THAT IS ON THE TOWER AND GENERALLY IDENTIFIES THEIR EQUIPMENT INSIDE. THEIR AH, SUPPORT STRUCTURE OF THEY HAVE THERE ON THE WATER TOWER GROUNDS, SO WE TRIED TO DO EVERYTHING TO TRY AND. BE ABLE TO LIMIT THEIR ABSOLUTE RIGHT TOE ACCESS THE WATER TOWERS, WHICH THEIR CURRENT LEASES GIVE THEM. IN MANY INSTANCES AND DON'T GIVE THE CITY OF THE ABILITY TO PROTECT CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE SO WE MAKE. WE'RE MAKING A LOT OF CHANGES TO MAKE IT. FAR MORE RESPONSIVE TO OUR NEEDS AS A CITY VERSUS THE NEEDS. IF YOU WILL OF THE INDIVIDUAL TELEPHONE CARRIERS.THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY ONLY CONCERN IS AGAIN BEING HAMSTRUNG IF. IF THEY PUT SOMETHING ON OUR TOWER, AND IT'S HOT, AND IT'S A MICROWAVE STRUCTURE LIKE, HE SAID, AND IT'S PUTTING OUT THOSE WAVES AND THEY SAY, OK, IT'S HOT. AND OUR CONTRACT HAS EXPIRED AND WE JUST NOT RESPONSIVE, BUT IT'S HOT, SO THE CITY CAN'T TOUCH IT OR REFUSES IT. TOUCH IT IT AND WE JUST WON'T RESPOND. COUNSELOR WE COULD STILL RESPOND. WE COULD PURSUE A CHAPTER 50 FOR ACTION, TRYING TO PURSUE SOME REMEDY IN THE CIVIL COURTS TO GET AN INJUNCTION THAT WOULD REQUIRE. THAT PROVIDER TO TURN OFF THE POWER AND ALLOW US TO REMOVE A THE EQUIPMENT AND STAY WITH THEM BE CONSIDERED A TRESPASSER ON THAT WATER TOWER. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU GUYS. THINK WE COULD GET A BETTER PRICE. JUST CONTRACTING WITH THE BIGGER CARRIERS GO UP AND DISCONNECT THEY'LL PRIDE FOR FREE TELECOMMUNICATION INDUSTRY HAS CHANGED A LOT AND ONCE UPON A TIME. I LOVE YOUR TOWERS, AND WE HAD A LOT FEWER CELL COMPANIES AND CITIES LIKE MCCAIN IN ALMOST ALL CITIES IN THE NORTH TEXAS LOOKED AT.
ANTENNA'S IS A MONEY MAKING OPPORTUNITY AND DIDN'T SO MUCH CONCERN ITSELF WITH. THESE ISSUES WE HAVE TODAY, SO THEY PROLIFERATED AND AS THEY PAROLED PROLIFERATED, CITIES DIDN'T WANT THEM PUTTING CELL TOWERS ON THEIR OWN STAND ALONE TOWERS, THEY SAID. LET'S UTILIZE HOURS TO CO LOCATE. AND SO EVERYBODY THEN BEGAN TO PUT MANY, MANY CELL UNITS ON OUR BESTIES OR ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS, WHICH IS A GREAT IDEA. VISUALLY, IT'S NOT AS OBTRUSIVE. BUT AS ALLEN AND JULIUS SAID IT BECAME MORE AND MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE WE HAD SO MANY AND SO USED TO BE A NON PROBLEM. NOW IT'S A BIG PROBLEM, AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAXIMIZE SAFETY AS THEY SAID. AFTER WE HAD THE HOME SECURITY ISSUES. WE REALLY NEEDED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE COULDN'T GET ON OUR TOWERS, SO I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, AND IT'S STILL APPRECIABLE REVENUE SOURCES. YOU GUYS SOFTENS. THANK YOU, SIR. THAT'S MOLLY. JULIA DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? SO IN ONE OF THE SLIDES, THE PICTURE YOU HAVE OF TRYING TO IDENTIFY WHO'S ON. WHO'S ON FIRST. WHAT'S ON WHICH TOWER UM. THE RADIO HAS LISTED THE MCKINNEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB, SO I DON'T KNOW I HAVE NO COMPUNCTION ALL ABOUT CHARGING AT T $3000 A MONTH, HOWEVER. I HAVE SOME HESITATION ABOUT CHARGING AN AMATEUR RADIO CLUB $3000 A MONTH. I DID TOO, BECAUSE MY GUESS IS THAT THIS IS FOR SOME EMERGENCY SOMETHING IT IS IF WE. WE ACTUALLY CONSIDER THEM A BACKUP IF WE LOST ALL FORM OF COMMUNICATION. THEY COULD HELP US. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE CHARGING. THAT IS WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JUST LIKE IS THE $3000 CHARGE IS THAT PER ANTENNA OR IS THAT JUST THE LEASE? FOR IF YOU HAVE FOUR ANTENNAS OR THREE OR TWO, I MEAN, WHAT IS WHAT. WHY DID THEY TURN HER LOCATION? SO IF THEY HAVE THREE ANTENNAS ON THIS STILL $3000 THEY HAVE SIX.
IT'S STILL $3000. OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS YOU RIGHT NOW WE'RE CHARGING 1425 25. WHY ARE WE? WHY DO WE THINK? WELL, THAT'S CALLED 25, OR 20% FROM THE HIGHEST. AND THAT'S
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WHERE DO WE WOULD HAVE PULLED THAT NUMBER FROM? WE DID A SURVEY. AND THAT SURVEY REVEALS THAT $3000 IS ABOUT THE AVERAGE OF WHAT'S CURRENTLY BEING FROM THE CITIES OR LIKE I HAVE A CLIENT THAT THEY THEY MAKE LIKE $5000 FROM ANTENNAS ON THEIR BUILDING. OUT, AND, UM AND SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT A GOOD FIELD IT'S CALLED A BETTER. YEAH, BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S MULTIPLE ANTENNAS. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS, BUT ONLY YOU KNOW, IT MAKES 60,000 BUCKS JUST TO. ON ANTENNA THINGS NEXT TO HIM ON HIS ROOF. SO. SPACE SOMETHING. YES I WAS SAYING AFTER S P 11 52. WE'VE GOT TO MAKE UP GROUND. WHATEVER WAY WE CAN NICKEL AND DIME, RIGHT, BUT I DO HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT. YOU KNOW, I HAVE, ALTHOUGH I'M NOT A FAN OF THE AESTHETIC. A DECISION THAT WAS MADE IN THE ADRIATIC IN THE BELL TOWER THAT'S OWNED BY JEFF BLACKER, KEEP THEIR LICENSE AGREEMENTS WITH COURSE, A NUMBER OF CARRIERS AND. PART OF HIS AGREEMENT WAS THAT HE WAS GOING TO PUT UP AESTHETIC. UH SOME SOME AESTHETIC SHIELDS. I THINK EVERYONE WOULD AGREE THAT THE CELL TOWER I MEAN, THE ANTENNAS THEMSELVES ARE FAIRLY UGLY, AND HE WROTE INTO THE LEAST THAT THEY WOULD PAY FOR THIS AESTHETIC. COVERING IF YOU WILL AGAIN. I'M NOT A FAN OF HOW HE DID, BUT I'VE SEEN OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE BEEN A MUCH BETTER WELL, AND OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T DO THAT, WITH MAYBE AN EXISTING LEASE BUT ON RENEWING LEASES. IS THERE ANY MERIT TO THAT WHERE WE AS A. CITY TRYTO ATTACK THE AESTHETIC VALUE OF OUR OF THOSE TOWERS IN ONE MONTH. I MEAN, IT'S A IT'S A WATER TOWER. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY LOOKS AT THAT OTHER THAN. I WOULDN'T EVEN NOTICED THAT IT WAS AN ANTENNA. YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK IT WAS PART OF THE WATER TOWER. BUT AS WE LIGHT IT UP, I THINK IT BECOMES. I JUST BRING IT UP BECAUSE I'VE SEEN OTHER CITIES. DO IT. BUT I MIGHT GO BACK TO MY SPLM 52. SO I'M WITH RAINEY WAS CHARGED A MILLION DOLLARS. WELL, NOW YOU'RE PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH, BUT CERTAINLY CERTAINLY LIKE TO SEE SOME DELINEATION OF THE NUMBER OF ANTENNAS THEY CAN PLACE ON THERE UNDER THAT LEAST, BECAUSE, OKAY, CERTAINLY. I DON'T WANT T TO GO UP THERE AND PAID $3000 AND PUT 100 UP THERE. AND SO I WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PUT FOUR FOR OR THREE FOR THREE GRAND. IF YOU GO ABOVE THAT YOU'RE STARTING PAY ADDITIONAL INCREMENTS. WE COULD MAKE IT. GET OUT HERE. THE STAFF DOES A STRUCTURAL REVIEW WHENEVER THEY PETITIONS COME IN. THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT IT AND. IS A PRACTICAL MATTER. THEY'RE NOT GONNA LOAD IT UP WITH A BUNCH OF ANTENNAS, BUT WE CERTAINLY GETS STATE THAT MAKE IT CLEAR. I MEAN, ALL OF THESE HAVE BEEN THE MOST BEFORE. SPRINT HAS WONDERFUL DATE. DINKY ONE AND RISING HAS THREE AND. THE MOBILE 94 JUST LOOK AT IT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF LONELY DRAFTED THESE ORIGINAL AGREEMENTS. WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE HAVING THIS BEATING TODAY. SO. AND I MIGHT ADD THAT WITH WITH RESPECT TO THE NUMBER OF INTENDED THEY HAVE ON THE, UH EACH ONE OF THE YES, TEAS HAVE VECTORS THAT THEY HAVE ESTABLISHED THAT THEY'RE TYPICALLY THREE CLUSTERS. OF ANTENNA PER SECTOR OR PER VECTOR. UH, GO AROUND THAT WATER TOWER. NOTHING WE DO ALSO HAVE ON THE WATER TOWER. WE HAVE THE ONE LOCATION OF LEE HAS THE HAM EQUIPMENT ON IT. ONE OF OUR WATER TOWERS. WE HAVE AH MICROWAVE DISH. THAT IS CONJUNCTION WITH COLLIN COUNTY. UH UH, FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES, AND WE ALSO HAVE OUR OWN. UH, POLICE AND FIRE. UH ANTENNA EQUIPMENT ON THE WATER TOWERS AS WELL AS THE SKATER EQUIPMENT, BUT HIS USUAL IZED BY PUBLIC WORKS BOTH FOR THE WATER TOWER AND FOR THE WATER LINES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SETTLE. THANK YOU. THE QUESTIONS COMMENTS. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, WE HAVE A SEAT. CITIZEN COMMENTS REGARDING MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA. NOBODY OUT THERE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP. SPEAK GREAT. UM, COUNSEL AND MANAGER COMMENTS. CHARLIE. ANYTHING.[COUNCIL AND MANAGER COMMENTS]
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REPORTERS A LIAISON RIGHT NOW. UH, ME. NEITHER. AMIR PUT HIM. I HAD WAY HAVE THE M E. DC TODAY AND ABBY LOU WAS RECOGNIZED FOR 10 YEARS. ABBY IS A WONDERFUL ASSET WE HAVE ON THE M E. D. C. AND SHE IS A. OF A HUGE ADVOCATE AND A GREAT ASSET WE HAVE AND MCKINNEY AND SO 10 YEARS WAY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT MISS LIU DOES SO. EVERYTHING. GOT EVERYTHING.YOU'RE SAMWELL CAST MACHINE? NOTHING, SIR. APPRECIATE. WHERE DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO, I DON'T. CITY MANAGER. OKAY WE'LL MOVE TO EXACTLY WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION. RIGHT? OKAY
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SO, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. SECTION 551-0. CONSULTATIONS ATTORNEY IN ANY WORK, WORK SESSION SPECIAL SESSION. A REGULAR SESSION DIDN'T EITHER REQUIRING CONFIDENTIAL ATTORNEY CLIENT ADVICE NOUS HAD NECESSITATED BY THE DELIBERATION. OR DISCUSSION OF SAID ITEMS AS NEEDED. WE HAVE OUR SECTION 551. 071 PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION. SKY TOWER ARE SKYWAY TOWERS LLC AND DON'T DON'T WORK. LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY COMPANY VERSUS THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. WE HAVE SECTION BY 51 DACHAU SEVEN TO DELIBERATIONS ABOUT REAL PROPERTY, MRS MUNICIPAL FACILITIES. SECTION 551. ABOUT PERSONAL MATTERS. SECTION E'S SECTION 551 DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MATTERS. AND WE WILL MOVE. NO ACTION WILL MOVE TO EXECUTIVE* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.