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WE'RE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS TO 22, NORTH TENNESSEE ST. MCKINNEY, TEXAS. THE TIME IS LOOKS LIKE ABOUT 505 P. M. FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS. PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS, MR JOSH, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING? MOVING ON CONSENT ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER TWO ZERO MINUTES OF THE TAX

[CONSENT ITEMS]

INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER ONE TURNS ONE BOARD MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 22ND. 2020 OF MODIFICATIONS OR A MOVE TO APPROVE TO APPROVE SECOND MAYOR FULLER APPROVE MAYOR PRO TOMB ROGER'S SECOND ALL IN FAVOUR, ALRIGHT? VERY MUCH. REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS TO 0-0989

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on an Amendment to the Chapter 380 Economic Development Agreement and Project Plan Implementation Agreement with McKinney Knittery for the Façade Improvement Project at 117 W. Louisiana Street]

CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER DISCUSS ACT ON AN AMENDMENT TO THE CHAPTER THREE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND PROJECT PLANNED IMPLEMENTATION AGREEMENT WITH MCKINNON, NOTARY FOR THE FACADE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AT 1 17 WEST LOUISIANA STREET, MR DUTY.

GOOD EVENING, MR CHAIR FOR MEMBERS MORE DUTIES AS DIRECTOR OF PLANNING FIRST ITEM TONIGHT FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER IS THE TURNS ONE EXTENSION REQUEST FOR 1 17, WEST LOUISIANA. IF YOU'LL RECALL BACK IN JANUARY THIS YEAR, THE MCKINNEY NOTARY REQUESTED AND WAS AWARDED 25,000. DOLLARS IN TRES HUNTING FOR UNDER THE VACANT UNDERUTILIZED CATEGORY FOR RESTORATION OF THEIR STOREFRONT WORK WAS TO INCLUDE REHABILITATION OF THE INTERIOR SPACE AS WELL, UNCOVERING ORIGINAL INTERIOR FINISHES, INCLUDING THE WOOD FLOORING, BEADBOARD CEILING. AND ALSO, WHAT WAS IT TO INCLUDE WAS A STOREFRONT RESTORATION OF THOSE BESIDES JACK. OF THE CASTLE, WHERE THE BIKINI OFFICE SUPPLIES SIGN. ALL THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE RESTORED. UNFORTUNATELY DUE JUST UNSEEN STRUCTURAL ISSUES WITH THAT BRICK FACADE THERE AS WELL AS CO VICH AND THE LOUISIANA STREET IMPROVEMENTS, CONSTRUCTION ON THE STOREFRONT WAS NOT ABLE TO COMPLETE IT BY THE. AGREED UPON DEADLINE OF SEPTEMBER 30TH OF THIS YEAR. SO THE AFRICAN IS REQUESTING AN EXTENSION OF THE DEADLINE FOR TO SEPTEMBER. 30TH 2021. FOR THOSE TO BE COMPLETED FOR THE STORE. FRUSTRATION BE COMPLETED. THE AGREEMENT THAT YOU HAVE, UH, THAT WE AGREED TO BACK IN JANUARY DOES ALLOW FOR AN EXTENSION OF THIS AND SO STAFF IS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. RECOMMENDATION AND HIS MAIN APPROVAL. THE EXTENSION. STANFORD QUESTIONS APPLICANTS ARE HERE IS WELL, WHY DO WE NEED IN ANOTHER YEAR? I MEAN, CAN WE NOT GET A SIX MONTH EXTENSION TO MAKE SURE THEY GET IT DONE QUICKLY PROPERLY. I WAS BEING GENEROUS. I THINK I WAS TAKING IT OUT TO THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IS SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 2021. I WOULD CERTAINLY BE OPEN TO A V A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. IF THAT'S UP TO WHAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TIO PURSUE. I THINK I WAS JUST TRYING TO ALSO THINK ABOUT ADDITIONAL UNFORESEEN CONSTRUCTION MOVE OF ISSUES THAT MAY COME UP. SURE THEY WANT TO COMPLETE IT QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, RIGHT? YES. YEAH, EXACTLY. I MEAN, AGAIN. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE WANTING TO DELAY IT FOR YOU KNOW, UNTIL SEPTEMBER, 30TH JUST AGAIN TRYING TO BE GENEROUS AND. YOU REMIND ME ABOUT THESE. THESE FUNDS ARE REIMBURSED OR FRONT. IT IS REIMBURSED SO THEY WOULD NEED TO SPEND THE $25,000 1ST.

AND THEN ONCE THEY HAVE SPENT THAT THE WORK IS COMPLETED, THEY SUBMIT THE RECEIPTS AND ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION TO STAFF. WE REVIEW IT AND THEN ISSUE THEM A CHECK FOR THAT, IN THAT CASE OUT OF MY MAYOR, PRO TEAM IF THEY WANT TO TAKE A YEAR TO BE REIMBURSED. OKAY.

AND AGAIN. I KNOW THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU'D LIKE FOR ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, LET'S GO WITH ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANTS, AND THEN WE'LL PUBLIC HEARING PROPORTIONS.

RUSSIANS. NOT MAKING YOU WALK UP JUST SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD. GOOD THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE WISHES TO COMMENT OR IS TURNED IN A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD, MR JOSH? THING SUBMITTED. IN THE FURTHER DISCUSSION. THAT I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON BOTH THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE APPROVAL. IF SOMEONE WAS SO EMOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS EXTENSION. WAS COUNCILMAN SHIM WELL WITH EMOTION THAT WAS COUNSELING FRANKLIN WITH SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. MR. THANK YOU. YOU ALL FOR COMING DOWN WAY USUALLY WISH PEOPLE BEST OF SUCCESS. BUT YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE SOME LUCK INVOLVED ON THIS ONE, TOO, CONSIDERING. OKAY. THANK YOU. AH ITEM NUMBER 20-0990 CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on a Resolution Amending the Project Plan for Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Number One]

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CONSIDER DISCUSS ACT ON A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE PROJECT PLAN FOR TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER ONE. ESTHER DODIE. GOOD EVENING, AGAIN CHAIR BOARD MEMBERS OF THE NEXT TWO ITEMS, ACTUALLY, KIND OF GO HAND IN HAND. SO THIS IS THE OFFICIAL ACTION IS TAKING PLACE TONIGHT BASED OFF OF DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD FOR THE LAST. ALMOST YEAR ACTUALLY ABOUT CHANGES TO THE POLICY PROJECT PLAN FOR THE TERMS NUMBER ONE. AND SO THE LAST DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD BACK IN SEPTEMBER WAS. DISCUSSION BETWEEN MYSELF IN THE BOARD ABOUT HOW THOSE POLICY CHANGES LOOK, AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT IS FORMALIZING THOSE GETTING THOSE EXACTLY AS PART OF RESOLUTION AND WAITERS AND ORDINANCE IN THE COUNCIL MEETING. SO AGAIN, THE PURPOSE FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEMS TO TALK ABOUT THOSE ITEMS IN THE PROJECT PLAN THAT WILL BE AMENDMENTS AND THOSE WILL BE ADDING THE CRITICAL MAINTENANCE CATEGORY AS WELL AS THE FIRE SUPPRESSION CATEGORY. SO AGAIN, WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCE DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS MAINLY DOWNTOWN AREA STRETCHES UP TO 3 80, THEN DOWN TO SOUTH GATE AS WELL. SO THE PROJECT PLAYING GOALS AGAIN THE MANGLES OF OUR PROJECT PLAN FOR TURNS NUMBER ONE ISSUE SUPPORT CATALYST PROJECTS WITHIN THE HISTORIC TOWN CENTRE LINK THE TOWN CENTRE ACROSS HIGHWAY FIVE SUPPORT STREET ANOTHER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AND THEN PROVIDE OTHER SUPPORT. WE ALREADY HAVE. CATALYST PROJECTS LINED OUT WHICH YOUR SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS BACON, UNDERUTILIZED SITES AND BUILDINGS, WHICH WERE THOSE SMALLER PROJECTS, WHICH USUALLY UNDER $5 MILLION IN INVESTMENTS. THOSE WERE TYPICALLY WHAT SHALL REVIEW. FOR THESE MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE AGAIN ELIGIBLE PROJECTS FOR CATEGORY ONE AND TWO ARE IN BATTLE ENVIRONMENTAL REMEDIATION INTO YOUR EXTERIOR DEMOLITION RESTORATION IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BESIDES.

STRY UTILITY IN STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS AND LAND ACQUISITION, AND THEN WE ALLOW FOR MIXED INCOME HOUSING TO BE CONSIDERED AS WELL. SO WHAT STAFF IS PROPOSING IS TO ADD A NEW CATEGORY UNDER CRITICAL FOR CRITICAL MAINTENANCE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. THESE ARE THE ITEMS LIKE STRUCTURAL FOUNDATION, REPAIR ROOF, REPLACEMENT OR REPAIR GUTTERS, MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING UPGRADES OR REPLACEMENT. AND AGAIN, WE HAVE TO WIN THE PROJECT PLAN TO ALLOW THIS CRITICAL MAINTENANCE. THE SECOND TABLETS. YOU SEE, HERE'S WHERE THEN WE WILL COME BACK. THE NEXT ITEM IS TO TALK ABOUT THE POLICY GUIDELINES FOR THOSE, BUT AGAIN ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HIS AMENDING THE PROJECT PLAN. TO ALLOW THIS CRITICAL MAINTENANCE ITEM AS A CATEGORY. SECOND ITEM IS FOR THE STAR FIRE SUPPRESSION. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT. IN FACT, THERE WAS A AMENDMENT TO THE TRES EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT AMENDMENT OUT AND JUST. ROLL IT INTO THIS NEW CATEGORY ITSELF, SO THE GRANTS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO UPGRADE THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEMS IN HISTORIC BUILDINGS AROUND SQUARE AGAIN, THE POLICY WILL TALK ABOUT IN JUST A MINUTE. ESTABLISH THE PROJECT CAP, AND THEN THEY WILL BE 50 50 MATCH AS WELL. WE ARE GOING TO BE RECOMMENDING. I'LL BE WORKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THE CHIEF'S ON HOW TO CONDUCT A STUDY TO DETERMINE A MORE UNIFIED PLAN. FIRE SUPPRESSION UPGRADES AROUND SQUARE HOPE TO GET THAT BACK TO YOU FAIRLY SOON. I HOPE. SO AGAIN, IN CONCLUSION. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS UNDER THE ELIGIBLE PROJECT TIMES WERE ADDING THE TWO NEW CRITICAL MAINTENANCE AND VIRUS OPPRESSION ITEMS WILL GO OVER THE PUBLIC POLICY GUIDELINES AGAIN IN THE NEXT ITEM. BUT WE HAVE TO AMEND THE PROJECT PLAN TO ALLOW FOR THOSE TWO IDOLS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? COMMENTS? OCEANS FOR MR DOE. YOU HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION ON THIS. THE LAST TIME WE MET. SO DOES THE FIRE SUPPRESSION IS DIFFERENTIATED BETWEEN. OUR SPRINKLERS ON, A RESTAURANT SUPPRESSION SYSTEM, RIGHT? THESE ARE NOT FOR RESTAURANT STYLE. WHEN YOU SAY FIRE SUPPRESSION, THAT'S CORRECT. IT WILL BE. IT CAN BE FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS FOR RESTAURANTS, RETAIL OFFICE RESIDENTIAL. THE RISERS, REALLY ANYTHING THAT HELPS WITH KEEPING THE BUILDING FROM BURNING DOWN IS WELL, WE KIND OF COVERED UNDERNEATH THIS PARTICULAR CATEGORY. YES, SIR. FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR DADDY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.

MR JOSH. DO WE HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD. HEY, THIS IS AGAIN ALMOST PART ONE OF PART TWO OF OUR TWO PART SO I WOULD ENTERTAIN EMOTION CONCERNING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE ITEM MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVED THE ITEM THERE, FULLER. 2ND 2ND WAS MR COUNCILMAN FRANKLIN. OWN FAVORITE EYE. HOSED. HEY, THANK YOU. WE SHALL GO WORK ON THAT, MR DOBIE. END. DON'T YOU SIT DOWN YET? ONE MORE SORRY.

[Conduct a Public Hearing to Consider/Discuss/Act on Guidelines Regarding the Allocation and Awarding of TIRZ No. 1 Funds]

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0-0991 CONDUCT PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER DISCUSS ACT ON GUIDELINES REGARDING THE ALLOCATION AND AWARDING OF TURNER'S ONE FUNDS. SO AGAIN. WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS THE FORMALIZATION OF THE TRES ONE POLICY GUIDELINES. AND THIS WAS AGAIN PART OF OUR DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD BACK IN SEPTEMBER. THE LAST TIME THAT THESE POLICY GUIDELINES WERE, UH, AMEND IT WAS IN 2014. AND AGAIN WE'VE OVER THE LAST ALMOST YEAR. WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE SHOULD DO TO MAKE THE POLICY GUIDELINES BE NORMAL RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE DOWNTOWN HARRY AND TRES OVERALL. SO WHAT? WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT AGAIN IS POLICY GUIDELINES CRITICAL MAINTENANCE.

WHAT EXACTLY THOSE POLICIES WERE GOING TO BE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM. WE TALKED ABOUT OUR FUND CARRY OVER. AND THEN THE MERITORIOUS EXCEPTION, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN GREAT LENGTH. THE LAST MEETING. SO THE FIRST ITEM AGAIN WE ALREADY HAVE THE EXISTING PROJECT CATEGORIES. WE JUST ADDED THE. HOLY HAVE GONE BLANK. WE'VE TOLD THE FIRE SUPPRESSION, THE CRITICAL MAINTENANCE. WE'VE ADDED THOSE TO IT AND SO THE EXISTING ADMINISTRATIVE POLICIES THAT I SAID WERE ADOPTED IN 2014. THAT IS WHITE WAS SET FOR THE VACANT UNDERLIES SITES. BUILDINGS. THAT IS WHAT SET THE MAXIMUM 25,000 PER PROJECT IN THE MAXIMUM OF 100,000 FOR THAT ENTIRE CATEGORY. AND SO THAT IS THE ITEM THAT WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT ROLLING TO FUNDING OVER IN JUST A MINUTE AGAINST FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED BASIS FOR THESE PROJECTS. SO FOR THE CRITICAL MAINTENANCE, WHICH WE JUST TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ADDING TO THE POLICY IS STRUCTURAL FOUNDATION REPAIRS REPAIR REPLACEMENT ESTABLISH A PER PROJECT CAPTIVE $50,000, AND THEN IT WOULD BE A 50 50 MATCH.

SO WE REALIZED THAT THOSE CRITICAL MAIN INSIDERS ARE USUALLY A LOT MORE COSTLY, THEN SOME OF THE ITEMS ENTERED THE BACON UNDER YOUR LIES, FACADE IMPROVEMENTS. SAME FOR THE FIRE SUPPRESSION. ESTABLISH A PRO PER PROJECT CAPTIVE 50,000 WILL BE A 50 50 MATCH. SO PERSON PUTS 50 AND WE'LL MATCH IT WITH $50,000, OR IF IT'S LESS WE CAN DO THAT. AGAIN WILL BE RECOMMENDING TO CONDUCT A STUDY TO DETERMINE THAT UNIFIED PLAN FOR THAT, MR DOE JUST QUIT EITHER FOR YOU OR CITY MANAGER. THE COST OF THAT STUDY IS NOT OUT OF HERE. SYRIA'S COST THAT STUDIES NOT OUT OF RESPONSE IS THAT JUST A BORN BY THE CITY'S FIRE DEPARTMENT WE WILL HAVE TO THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSS. OKAY. YES, SIR. SO THE FUNDING CARRY OVER AGAIN. WE TALKED ABOUT MAKING UNDERUTILIZED RIGHT NOW. IT'S CAPTAIN 100,000 FOR THE ENTIRE CATEGORY AND INTO THE YEAR OF ALL THOSE FUNDS WERE NOT USED. IT JUST GOES INTO THE GENERAL TURNER'S FINE. WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS START ROLLING THAT OVER EVERY YEAR. SO IF WE HAVE 10,000 LEFT OVER GOES TO THE NEXT YEAR, SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO GET MAURA THESE VACANT UNDERUTILIZED FACADE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU JUST SAW LIKE FOR MCKINNEY, NOTARY. WE GET A FEW MORE OF THOSE, AND THEN JUST KIND OF THE FOUR THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING EVERY YEAR. WE WOULD CAP THAT AT $300,000. OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT IT TO BECOME SO MUCH MONEY THAT IT TAKES MONEY OUT OF THE GENERAL TOURIST FUND THAT MAYBE USED NEEDED FOR OTHER BIGGER PROJECTS. SO THE MERITORIOUS EXCEPTIONS. THIS IS WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN GREAT LENGTH KIND.

THE LAST MEETING AND THAT IS WHERE. TRES BOARD WOULD RETAIN THE FULL AUTHORITY TO REVIEW AND GRANT A MERITORIOUS EXCEPTION TO OUR POLICY GUIDELINES FOR WORTHY PROJECTS.

THESE OTHER PROJECTS WHERE, UM. MAYBE SOMETHING WEIRD'S AN IMMINENT THREAT OR THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE THINK REALLY. GOES ABOVE AND BEHIND WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR POLICY.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE JACK HARVARD PROJECT. SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR SOMETHING OF THAT VARIETY. SO, UH, STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT WE'D LIKE TO ESTABLISH A PER PROJECT CAP OF $100,000. WE HAVE UP THAT WE SHOWED YOU ALL 50,000 LAST TIME AND IN DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF INTERNAL STAFF AND THEN ALSO THAT THE. THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. WE DECIDED THAT TOO $100,000 BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE PROJECTS WHERE THE BUILDING MAYBE NEEDS SOME SERIOUS MAJOR WORK DONE TO IT. IT WOULD STILL BE A 50 50 MATCH SO AGAIN. WE'VE HAD $100,000 CAP. TOPS IN AND THEN THEY WOULD PUT IN $100,000 AS WELL. WHAT THAT WOULD DO THEN, AND I THINK THIS WAS DISCUSSED LAST TIME IS THAT THAT WOULD THEN WALK THE APPLE CAN'T. NOT THAT I'M SORRY, AND THAT IS A MISTAKE. THERE'S JUST LIKE THE APPLICANT. FROM FUTURE YOUR REQUEST FOR SPACE FOR A SPECIFIC TIME PERIOD. UM, AND THEN WHAT? WE WOULD STILL LIKE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF SPECIFIC FINDINGS AGAIN TO AVOID SOME SORT OF PRECEDENT. AND THOSE

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FINDINGS COULD BE. YOU KNOW VARIOUS THINGS I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT NOT USING IMMINENT THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, BECAUSE IF SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED SO AGAIN THAT THE COST OF THE. THE COST OF THE REPAIRS WERE SO GREAT THAT THEY NEED THESE FUNDINGS THISS ACTUALLY SAVE THE BUILDING ITSELF, EVEN IF IT'S NOT IN IMMINENT THREAT. SO AGAIN, WE WOULD LIKE THAT JUST SO THAT WE DON'T AVOID ANY KIND OF A PRECEDENT. I DON'T KNOW. I WAS THINKING THE APPLICANT PROPERTY. I THINK THAT WAS ON PURPOSE, THOUGH, WASN'T IT BECAUSE I SAID THAT AFTER I SAID IT, I WAS LIKE, NO, I THINK THAT IS RIGHT. IT DOES GO WITHOUT APPLICANT COULD HAVE OWNED FIVE BUILDINGS CORRECT AND BROKEN. SO FOR APPLICANT FOR PROPERTY. YES. I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT, AND I'M JUST GONNA THROW THIS OUT THERE. UM. YOU KNOW, THE DOWNTOWN AREA IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALWAYS CHERISHED. AND WE WANT TO KEEP OUR MARGINS DOWN THERE HAPPY.

AND MAKE SURE THAT THEIR BUILDINGS WERE IN GOOD SHAPE. WE'RE ASKING THEM TO PUT UP 50 50 MATCH. BEING WHAT THEY'VE GONE THROUGH WITH COVE IT AND EVERYTHING ELSE DOWN THERE. IF WE DID A 25 75 MATCH, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME. ACTUALLY, THEY HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME BECAUSE THEY'VE INVESTED IN DOWNTOWN. THEY BOUGHT BUILDINGS DOWN THERE.

OKAY. I JUST LIKE TO THROW IT OUT TO THE COUNCIL. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THAT WE'D WANT TO LOOK AT? IS LOWERING THE MATCH SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME UP WITH SO MUCH MONEY AT THIS TIME. I MEAN, ESPECIALLY FOR CRITICAL NIGHT MINTS AND FIRE SUPPRESSION MEAN DOWN THERE. YOU'RE ONE FAR AWAY FROM TAKING OUT A WHOLE BLOCK. WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT FOR LIKE A YEAR? FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME. I MEAN IT. IF IT WORKS, THEN MAYBE WE KEEP IT IF WE DON'T.

YEAH. I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE IF. IF KOBE IT HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH. DILAPIDATION OF THEIR BUILDING. THEN MAYBE I'D BE IN FAVOR OF THAT. BUT UM. I JUST DON'T SEE WHAT ONE THING HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE OTHER. JUST IMPACT ON THE BUSINESS. THE ECONOMIC IMPACT. I THINK IT'S THE THOUGHT. I THINK. I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF GRANT PROGRAMS THAT AIR. TRYING TO HELP BUT EVERYBODY'S HURTING RIGHT NOW. NOT JUST. I UNDERSTAND THE SENTIMENT I DO.

I THINK 50 50 IS MORE THAN ENOUGH THAT WE'RE MEETING THEM HALFWAY. BUT TERS IS FAR BEYOND JUST DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY. THIS GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO 3 80 ALL THE WAY DOWN HIGHWAY FIVE. AND SO THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT WE CAN DO. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS INTIMATE, MOST DEFINITELY, BUT.

WE HAVE COVERAGE OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS IN MCKINNEY. THIS IS NOT JUST FOR DOWNTOWN. AND I THINK ANOTHER POINT, RICK THAT YOU MADE IS. IF, IF ESPECIALLY TALKING DOWNTOWN IF ONE BUILDING GOES UP IN FLAMES, WE LOSE, MAYBE AT LEAST A QUARTER OF OUR SQUARE. I DIDN'T WANT TO GO BACK ON SOMETHING BECAUSE SHARP FIRE DEPARTMENTS BETTER THAN THAT. I THINK THEY'RE THE BEST IN THE WORLD, BUT THEY'RE ALL INTERCONNECTED, AND THEY'D BE HARD PRESSED TO. STOP THAT.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANTTO PICK UP ON SOMETHING. COUNCILMAN SHIM WELL SAID BEFORE, BUT I THINK WHAT WHERE HE WAS GOING WITH THE QUESTION ON FIRE SUPPRESSION OVER COOKING EQUIPMENT. THAT'S THAT'S CERTAINLY FINISH OUT ITEM. SO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THAT, TOO? SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF IT WAS GOING TO PUT IN A RESTAURANT AND CONVERT A SPACE. THERE'S FIRE SUPPRESSION OF THE BUILDING, BUT THE SUPPRESSION FOR THE KITCHEN ITSELF IS ACTUALLY VERY SEPARATE THING. IT IT'S AN ADDITIONAL TYPE OF SUPPRESSION. THAT IS THAT IS DESIGNED FOR OVER DEPENDING WHAT YOU HAVE IF YOU HAVE A FEW GREECE UH, AREA IF YOU HAVE YOU KNOW HOW MUCH OPEN FLAME YOU HAVE ALL THAT KIND OF THING, SO I THINK THAT THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S PROBABLY THAT'S WHAT HIS QUESTION WAS PERTAINING TO AND WOULD THAT BE. QUALIFIED BECAUSE I WOULD RATHER NOT SEE THAT I WOULD RATHER THE MONEY, GO FOR FIRE, SUPPRESSION OF BUILDINGS AND PROTECTION OF THE BUILDING. NOT TO NECESSARILY A FINISH OUT THAT SOMEONE'S DOING IT IN ADVENTURE. I CAN HONESTLY SAY I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD THAT LEVEL OF DISCUSSION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE DID MY APOLOGY. I WANT EVERYONE TO BE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HIS PROTECTION OF BUILDINGS AND UPGRADES OF BUILDINGS. NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, FINISH OUT, NOT TENANT SPECIFIC FINISH OUT OF THE COMBINED MINTS AND CRITICAL MAIN BUILDING. WE NEED THIO. MAKE THAT A PART OF THE MOTION. MR BRODY WITH BIKE THAT SATISFYING FOR THAT THINKING TO BE INCLUSION JUST SO THAT IT'S

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MORE OF A KIND OF A GUIDE FOR STAFF. I MAY NOT BE RIGHT. I AGREE WITH MR DADDY. WE MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT BECAUSE I HELPED ON THESE. THESE ARE MEANT TO BE POLICY GUIDELINES, NOT ACTUAL HARD CAPS, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT INTERNAL LATER TO HELP YOU MAKE DECISIONS. IF YOU HAD SOMETHING THAT WAS. 55 45, SOMEONE MENTIONED A DIFFERENT SPLIT.

YOU CAN ALWAYS DEVIATE. THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T MAKE THESE AN EXACT. CAPT RESOLUTION IS A GUIDELINE FOR YOU TO MAKE DECISIONS. TO HELP YOU. ASSESS THE MAYOR MENTIONED YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THESE IN A YEAR AND SEE OF 50,000 IS TOO MUCH OR TOO LITTLE. AND SO WE WERE JUST. TRYING TO GIVE YOU A FRAMEWORK FOR YOU TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR STAFF TO BRING RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL. SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT ALL ALL OF THESE THINGS THEY'RE DISCRETIONARY? THEY ALL COME TO THE COUNCIL, AND I MEAN TO THE TERMS BOARD HIM. IS THE WORDING THE ULTIMATE DISSENSION. GENERAL'S POINT IS, IT SAYS CAP. BUT THAT'S ANOTHER THEORY RESOLUTION ITSELF, AND THE EXHIBIT TO THE RESOLUTION DOES NOT SAY CAP. SO I WANT TO BRING THAT TO YOU BECAUSE. THIS, THIS SAYS CAP, BUT THAT'S NOT THE RESOLUTIONS PULLS. SO COUNCILMAN FRANKLIN'S POINT AND CONSUMMATE SHAMBLES POINT, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF WE KNOW THAT WE MAY CONSIDER THAT WE HAVE A LANGUAGE UP TO 75% BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS AND MAKE DECISIONS, WHETHER THEY'RE EVEN GOING TO ATTEMPT TO TAKE ON A PROJECT. THAT THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY BIG DECIDING FACTOR FOR YOU GUYS IF I THOUGHT I HAD $100,000 FIRE SUPPRESSION PROBLEM, AND I KNEW THAT I POTENTIALLY COULD GET 75,000 OF IT FROM THE CITY, AND THAT MADE ME ABLE TO DO IT. THAT'S A DIFFERENT DECISION, POTENTIALLY THAT I'VE HAD TO COME UP WITH 50 THAT I DIDN'T HAVE ENTIRELY UP TO YOU TO CHANGE TONIGHT.

THAT WOULD SATISFY EGGS. THEN IT STILL COMES HERE AND WE'D MAKE THAT DECISION. YEAH. OR OR THE LANGUAGE IS THAT. ALL DECISIONS ARE DISCRETIONARY TO THE TOURIST BOARD ARE ULTIMATELY SAY THAT S O B UP TO IS, ALLOW THEM TO KNOW THAT AND WE HAD SOME AMOUNT. IT STILL MEANS YOU GOT SKIN IN THE GAME. AND IT'S FOR THEM TO DO BUDGETING AND TO FIGURE OUT YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON 10 YEARS IN SUCCESSION, SO IT'S HELPFUL FOR THEM TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. I WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT THESE AIR KIND OF POLICY GUIDELINES THAT YOU MAY WANT TO CHANGE TONIGHT OR LATER. I'VE DEALT WITH SOME SLUM LORDS IN MCKINNEY. AND I'M JUST BEING HONEST. YOU KNOW, AND YOU YOU. TELL PEOPLE THEY GET 75% 80% 90% THEY LET THEIR BUILDINGS RUN DOWN. THEY LET THEIR SYSTEMS RUN DOWN. THEY LET WHATEVER RUN DOWN SO THAT THEY'RE IN A POSITION TO SAY. HATE COUNCIL. I REALLY NEEDED AND GIVE ME ALL YOU GOT. OR YOU LET PEOPLE TAKE CARE OF THEIR BUILDINGS AND BE RESPONSIBLE BUSINESS OWNERS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT 50% OR MORE. TO KEEP UP WITH THEIR BUSINESSES AND THEIR BUILDINGS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE GLASS HALF FULL. YOU LOOK AT THE GLASS HALF EMPTY THING. YOU LOOK AT IT. HOW YOU EVER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT GOOD DISCUSSION. CONSENSUS AROUND DISCRETION, LEAVING THE DISCRETIONARY LANGUAGE 50 50. I MEAN, LIKE NO MORE WEED. NO MORE MINUTES. BASIC GUIDELINES. I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO STOP SOMEBODY FROM NOT DOING SOMETHING IF THEY GET 25 PER CENT MORE. EVERYTHING JUST REMEMBER, TOO. WE TALKED ABOUT YOU KNOW THE CARRY OVER BECAUSE SO THE CONCERN WAS. YOU KNOW WHAT OTHER PROJECTS ARE OUT THERE? YOU KNOW, CITY HOLLER ANYTHING ELSE, AND I THINK THE DISCUSSION WAS WE MAKE THE YEAR WE MAKE THE CAB 300,000 THAT COULD BE CHANGED. IN ANY TERMS MEETING AND SO YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS SOMETHING CAME UP, WE HAD TO THROTTLE IT BACK IN ORDER TO ISSUE SUFFICIENT BONDS TO DO A LARGE PROJECT THAT WE COULD DO THAT THAT'S JUST ESTABLISHING IT FOR NOW. RIGHT? ON THE OTHER HAND, THAT'S STILL OVER A MILLION MILLION AND A HALF PER YEAR GOING INTO TRES, EVEN IN THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN DIRECT, SO. AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING. I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH CINDY ABOUT NO. NCDC HAS SOME INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES. WELL, SO KIND OF BREAKING DOWN THE SILOS BETWEEN WHAT WE DO AND WHAT THEY DO, AND MAY BE TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE IF THEY CAN'T GET EXACTLY WHAT THEY N FROM US. MAYBE THEY CAN APPLY FOR N C. D C FUNDING AS WELL. SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK IN TANDEM WITH THEM AS WELL AS I RECALL ALSO THE 3000 CARRY OVER. WE'RE PUTTING THAT IN THERE SAVES US AT LEAST ONE MOTION ONE BUDGET MOTION. ON COUNCIL IF THERE'S MONEY AT THE END OF THEM AT THE END OF THE YEAR, TOO. THANKS FOR SAVING BUREAUCRACY. IN STEP. WE WILL BE TRACKING THESE SINCE THESE AIR NEW PROGRAMS AND WE'RE NOT 100% SURE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GO. WE WILL BE TRACKING FOR, YOU KNOW, SIX

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MONTHS TO A YEAR JUST TO SEE IF WE'VE EVER COMMITTED IT OR WE'RE DOING OKAY, SO. IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE FEEL LIKE THAT, YOU'LL NEED TO BE AWARE OF POLICY. YOU KNOW, GUY LINE WISE. WE'LL CERTAINLY BRING THAT BACK TO YOU. JENNIFER MADE THAT POINT AS WELL. OKAY, SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER THAT'S TURNED IN A CAR, JOSH. I'M ON IT. YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. THANKS FOR SPEAKING DEFINITELY, AND RIGHT NOW I'M SPEAKING AS A MEMBER OF ST JAMES CHURCH ON. 3 16. WHAT ARE MCDONALD STREET HERE? MCKINNEY. AND. BEING AT HIGHWAY FIVE AND WHAT STREET FOR OVER 100 YEARS.

MY CONCERN IS NOT JUST FOR ST JAMES. BUT JUST IN GENERAL, HOW WE MET. AND. WE'RE MOVING NOW FROM THE. THE TIME WHEN WE WERE INVITED. TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS OF. THAT THE TOWN CENTRE STUDY. AND TO GIVE COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. WE'RE NOW MOVING FROM THE WHAT TO THE HOW AND. I'M JUST ASKING THAT AS YOU CONSIDER THE FUNDS AND THE DISCUSSION. IT'S VERY HARDY, VERY MEATY DISCUSSION. FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE. HOW DO YOU TRANSLATE THAT TO THE PEOPLE? AND I THINK THAT AND IT MAY BE EASY TO SAY WELL. THAT GOES TO COUNSEL TO THE DISTRICT. BUT THIS IS THIS IS BEYOND ONE DISTRICT PERSON. IT JUST IS.

THIS IS A THIS IS A CITY WIDE. IT SAYS A CITY WIDE IMPACT AND SO. I'M JUST ASKING THAT YOU PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRULY MEET THE PEOPLE. AT THE PEOPLE'S LEVEL. BECAUSE I MEAN, I LOVE THE POLICY. PEACE, LOVE. I THINK IT'S FUN. BUT TEO GET TEO. IT'S NOT FUN WHEN SOMEONE KNOCKS ON YOUR DOOR. THIS IS IMPACTING YOUR HOME. AND IT WAS IN THE POLICY. IT WAS IN THE STUDY. DIDN'T YOU KNOW ABOUT IT? THAT'S NOT. WE CAN'T DO THAT. AND SO I THINK IT'S A IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, TIO. GET DOWN TO JUST TWO GRASSROOTS LEVEL. TO WERE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE INITIAL PROCESS. AT THIS ONGOING PROCESS TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE ENGAGED IN A WAY THAT IS VERY MEANINGFUL. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE CAN ENGAGE OUR. MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS, FOLKS, TIO TAKE CARE OF A BUNCH OF THAT AS WELL. IT'S BETH. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, SO I THINK OUR CONSENSUS IS THAT WE'RE LEAVING IT IN PLACE, USING IT AS GUIDELINES. COUNCILMAN SHIM WELL, COUNCILMAN FRANKLIN NOTED THAT IT COULD BE MORE THAN 50 50 AND MR HAUSER. NO, THAT WOULD BE AT THE BOARD'S DISCRETION. THAT ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE NEEDING ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR. MOVED TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM WOULD BE WELCOME. MAKE EMOTIONALLY CLOSE PEPE CARING AND PROVE THIS ITEM THINKING THAT THAT WAS COUNCILMAN FRANKLIN. UH MOTION WAS ACCOUNTS MENTION WELL AS FOR THE SECOND ALL IN FAVOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ALL MR HAUSER, NO EXECUTIVE SESSION. HEY, DON'T CHANGE A MOTION TO ADJOURN SO WE CAN ADJOURN THAT'S MAYOR FULLER TO ADJOURN. THAT IS COUNSEL PHILLIPS ACCOUNTS MCPHILLIPS OBJECTING TO THE

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